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Title: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 30, 2007, 02:40:48 PM
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THE STRETFORD END
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TEAM

        * Manager: Sir Alex Ferguson
        * Assistant Manager: Carlos Queiroz
        * First Team Coach: Mike Phelan
        * Goalkeeping Coach: Tony Coton
        * Fitness Coach: Valter di Salvo
        * Strength & Conditioning Coach: Mick Clegg
        * Caretaker Reserve Team Coach: Brian McClair
        * Chief Scout: Jim Lawlor
        * Chief European Scout: Martin Ferguson
        * Director of Youth Academy: Brian McClair
        * Director of Youth Football: Jimmy Ryan
        * Technical Skills Development Coach: René Meulensteen
        * Club Doctor: Dr. Steve McNally
        * Assistant Club Doctor: Dr. Tony Gill
        * First Team Physiotherapist: Rob Swire



First-team squad

    Goal-keepers

        * Edwin van der Sar
        * Tomasz Kuszczak
        * Ben Foster
        * Tom Heaton


    Defenders

        * Gary Neville (Captain)
        * Patrice Evra
        * Gabriel Heinze
        * Rio Ferdinand
        * Wes Brown
        * Nemanja Vidić
        * John O'Shea
        * Phil Bardsley
        * Mikael Silvestre
        * Craig Cathcart
        * Kieran Lee
        * Gerard Piqué
        * Jonny Evans
        * Daniel Simpson

    Midfielders

        * Cristiano Ronaldo
        * Ryan Giggs (vice-captain)
        * Park Ji-Sung
        * Michael Carrick
        * Paul Scholes
        * Kieran Richardson
        * Darren Fletcher
        * Chris Eagles
        * Anderson Luís de Abreu Oliveira
        * Luís Carlos Almeida da Cunha 'Nani'
        * Owen Hargreaves

    Forwards

        * Wayne Rooney
        * Louis Saha
        * Alan Smith
        * Ole Gunnar Solskjær
        * Dong Fangzhuo
        * Giuseppe Rossi

TEAM PHOTO
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WE ARE THE CURRENT CHAMPIONS
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NEW KIT AND NUMBERING

Home Kit:
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Numbering:
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Details:
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See more at:

http://www.myspace.com/manutd

Available August 1st-Pre-Order:
http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/kit_selector.aspx?selector=122


STADIUM
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Name - Old Trafford-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Trafford_(football_ground)
http://www.manutdzone.com/oldtrafford/oldtrafford.htm
Nickname - Theatre Of Dreams
Inaugration - 1910
Construction cost - £60m GBP
Capacity - 76212
Location - Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Greater Manchester, England

Take a Tour of Old Trafford- http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={3D311A73-611A-43C9-9852-82DF97917873}&section=welcome

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CLUB HONOURS
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TRANSFERS IN

        * Jonny Evans from Sunderland - End of loan
        * Danny Simpson from Sunderland - End of loan
        * Giuseppe Rossi from Parma - End of loan
        * Gerard Piqué from R.Zaragoza - End of Loan
        * Nani from Sporting Lisbon - Undisclosed
        * Anderson from Porto - Undisclosed
        * Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich - Undisclosed



TRANSFERS OUT
        * Phil Marsh - Free transfer
        * Floribert Ngalula - Free transfer
        * Jamie Mullan - Free transfer
        * Danny Rose - Free transfer
        * Lee Crockett - Released
        * Aaron Burns - Released


NEXT MATCH

    Urawa Red Diamonds vs Manchester United
    Friendly
    Tuesday, July 17th, 2007 (12:00 BST)
    Urawa Komaba Stadium, Saitama, Japan

Manchester United News -

        * ManUtd.com- http://www.manutd.com/ -The official website of Manchester United FC.
        * BBC- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/default.stm
        * Sky Sports- http://home.skysports.com/club.aspx?clid=1&cpid=8
        * ESPNSoccernet- http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team?id=360&cc=5901
        * Football365-http://www.football365.com/teams/manchester_united/0,17032,,00.html



Official United Links

        * Local Supporters Club- http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={18397BE1-3BC3-49EC-9718-9598D6704319}
        * History By Decade- http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={E0DB31FD-0C0E-49D7-98B7-AA7B75FF0E21}
        * Club Contacts- http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={A89773B2-3CD4-4A33-860B-EBAA9C62B1A7}


Useful Links

        * Fixtures - Manchester United Fixtures of the 2006/2007 season:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={34009B66-8C50-42F4-816F-CE57868EDE49}&teamid=458
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/fixtures/default.stm
        * Gallery - In-game pics, goal celebrations pics, squad pics, ground, and more. No watermarks.
http://redskygallery.spaces.live.com/
        * The Website of Dreams - In-depth statistics of Manchester United's matches and players.
http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/menu.html
        * Scores - Manchester United's scores of the all the matches, since the 1886/87 season.
http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/seasonmenu.html
        * Kits - A guide to every Manchester United kit ever worn.
http://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-kits.htm
        * Legends - A football talk show, weekdays at 1:00pm EST.
http://mediaweb.musicradio.com/playlist.asx?streamid=7


GLORY GLORY MAN UTD!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on June 30, 2007, 02:45:04 PM
They should just tell everybody buy a red t-shirt and write "Man U" on the front with a crayon.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 30, 2007, 02:46:20 PM
They should just tell everybody buy a red t-shirt and write "Man U" on the front with a crayon.

ent lol...  i finds its nce though... brings a old fashion look in a modern material..    besides it doesnt matter what we wear..once its red ..and oh man is this one red lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on June 30, 2007, 02:51:40 PM
Them manufacturers know who their market is. The truth is football is a religion no matter what, SM you will always be a Manu fan just like I will always back Barca. If that means buying a lame jersey I really don't mind.

T&T national kit looks good to me only because I know it the national kit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on June 30, 2007, 07:53:24 PM
Only ManU would be able to sell a crap shirt like that.

Before you start Spurs are a close second :-\.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on June 30, 2007, 08:22:57 PM
so why Ronaldo is the only man front and center with his arms folded. how he could block out the main sponsor so? he eh realise that AIG pay big money to get on that jersey?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on June 30, 2007, 09:01:58 PM
nice shirt for sure but...

Why a new shirt after launching one just last year? The life-cycle for these shirts used to be two years, now it is one.

Makes you wonder if the Glazers are pushing for this, try to squeeze a little extra money from the fans.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 30, 2007, 09:12:10 PM
nice shirt for sure but...

Why a new shirt after launching one just last year? The life-cycle for these shirts used to be two years, now it is one.

Makes you wonder if the Glazers are pushing for this, try to squeeze a little extra money from the fans.

nopes..The kit we used last year was a kit used to honour the busby babes..   The kit had the same look of the 1950's kit



Here is a short informative story:

The new(06-07) Manchester United shirt is a limited edition, one year only design (obviously to help repay the Glazer debt) and is described by the club as being "1950’s retro style – a tribute to the success of the Busby Babes and their enduring influence". The name of new sponsor AIG is far smaller than its predecessor, the domineering Vodaphone logo, resulting in a classy looking kit. There's a gold seem running along the shoulders and down the sides whilst the club crest is placed onto a white background similar to the 1997-99 European shirt. Whether it sells in large volumes is yet to be seen and may depend on whether funds are made available for any new big named signings. Interestingly, the kit is almost an exact replica of the one worn the previous season by breakaway fans' team, FC United. (Launch date July 24th 2006. Expires July 2007).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on July 01, 2007, 05:53:50 AM
I like it alot doh have to be complicated to be bad ...I wanna get the long sleeve
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 01, 2007, 09:02:18 AM
Simple but nice
Available August 1st... apparently we will wear a black away kit

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Reds launch new home kit


United have unveiled their new home kit ahead of the new season.

A giant image of the team in the new Nike-produced kit adorns the East Stand window at Old Trafford. The players will wear it for the first time during their first match of their Asia Tour against Urawa Red Diamonds in Japan later this month.

The front of the new home shirt features an engineered mesh pattern inspired by the architecture of Old Trafford and the contours of the body. On the back a flash of white tape frames the name and number with a fine black stripe, MUFC and the Red Devil emblem inside. As a final touch there is a label with the Red Devil emblem and the nickname 'The Red Devils.' White shorts and black socks complete the kit.

It has been made using Nike Dri-FIT fabric which helps transport moisture away from the skin to the fabric’s surface for rapid evaporation, keeping the players comfortable for longer. It's already a popular design with the squad and they believe the fans will be equally impressed.

"It’s very important to feel comfortable when you’re playing and hopefully this kit will be a good one for us in all types of weather conditions," Wayne Rooney told ManUtd.com.

"It’s quite simple and traditional which is the way I like the kits to be," added skipper Gary Neville. "I’m sure the fans will like it."

Fans should visit http://www.myspace.com/manutd to see more images and a behind-the-scenes video from the kit shoot with the players. Supporters can post their views on the kit and also win a signed shirt. The kit is now available to pre-order through store.manutd.com or at the Megastore, Old Trafford. It will be available for delivery and purchase from 1 August.

New Kit:
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Long Sleeve:
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Goal Keeper:
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Details:
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Rooney 10: ;D :D :beermug:
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Back of GK kit:
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on July 01, 2007, 09:08:13 AM
what a club....even if yuh doh like dem and all dat....got to admire the tradition and ambitions....

small mag graduating today....all the best son....ah getting old boy...and i could dribble past him with ease....hope he get ah wuk in old trafford
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Carib-Briton on July 01, 2007, 01:40:42 PM
Glad this was made, I did suggest this a while back I hope there is no complaints when a Arsenal one is made  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TRUwarrior on July 02, 2007, 08:32:19 AM
great post
Glory Glory!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on July 02, 2007, 08:47:15 AM
Good idea, let's put all Man U stuff for the season in this one thread.
If only that would actually happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 02, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
Good idea, let's put all Man U stuff for the season in this one thread.
If only that would actually happen.

Well that is what we are trying to acheive
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on July 02, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
Somehow I don't think yall will be able to resist.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 02, 2007, 08:56:48 AM
New Manchester United signings Nani and Anderson have both put pen to paper on five-year deals.

Portugal winger Nani, 20, and Brazil midfielder Anderson, 19, cost a combined £30m when joining from Sporting Lisbon and Porto respectively.

The pair, along with fellow new signing Owen Hargreaves, will be officially unveiled to the media soon.

Meanwhile, Polish keeper Tomasz Kuszczak also made his season-long loan from West Brom into a permanent move. :beermug:


United gained a work permit for Anderson, after their initial application was rejected as he had not played 75% of Brazil's internationals during the last two years.

United argued that Anderson, who made his Brazil debut in the Copa America defeat by Mexico last week, had been prevented by his age into filling that criteria.

They also argued that he will bring exceptional talent to the Premier League.

Nani had been linked to a move to Tottenham, but said he would only leave Sporting to join a club like United.

Kuszczak joined United on loan from West Brom last August, and as understudy to Old Trafford number Edwin van der Sar made six Premier League and five FA Cup starts last season.



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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on July 02, 2007, 09:15:50 AM
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 02, 2007, 12:40:06 PM
Ok lets talk transfers

What you guys think  another striker? if yes who? and who should we sell?

Yes i think we should get a striker

Targets: Jan Klass Huntelaar.. Eider the ice man.. Nugent

Sell: Richardson only if Heinze stays  ... Sell Smith or Saha either or
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 03, 2007, 09:03:26 PM
Rooney harbours high hopes

Wayne Rooney spent last season desperate to get his hands on his first Premier League trophy. Now he's held the prize aloft, he can't wait to add to his medal tally.

Rooney, who joined United from Everton in August 2004 and has now won both the league and the Carling Cup with the Reds, told The Mirror he's hungry for more success.

"It's just not just about winning the odd trophy," he said. "It's about winning them all the time."

The 21-year-old striker, who last week switched squad numbers to take over the no.10 shirt previously worn by United hitmen Denis Law and Mark Hughes, said legends like those provided constant motivation.

"The [current] players know their role in keeping up the club's amazing history and success. Players in the past have set the standard: now we've got to carry it on."

http://www.manutd.com/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 04, 2007, 11:19:27 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=466284&in_page_id=1779&ct=5

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/article2029349.ece

Utd supposedly sign Tevez...

more 2moro

 :beermug: :beermug: ;D ;D ;) ;) :D :D :o :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 06, 2007, 06:46:47 AM
 Carlos Tevez has agreed to join Manchester United on loan - sources have told Sky Sports News.

The Argentine international is set to join United on a initial two-year term, with an option for a further three-year stay at Old Trafford.

It is reported that a United delegation has flown to Venezuela - where Tevez is with Argentina competing in the Copa America.

United want Tevez signed and sealed as soon as possible, so they have travelled to South America to conclude the deal.

United will be hopeful of concluding the deal within the next 48 hours.

 Carlos Tevez has agreed to join Manchester United on loan - sources have told Sky Sports News.

The Argentine international is set to join United on a initial two-year term, with an option for a further three-year stay at Old Trafford.

It is reported that a United delegation has flown to Venezuela - where Tevez is with Argentina competing in the Copa America.

United want Tevez signed and sealed as soon as possible, so they have travelled to South America to conclude the deal.

United will be hopeful of concluding the deal within the next 48 hours.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475502&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Tevez+to+seal+United+loan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 30, 2007, 08:20:21 AM
Ok lets keep this thread alive from now please... Everything Utd in here


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 30, 2007, 08:20:37 AM
July 2007
17 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Urawa Red Diamonds       
20 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs FC Seoul       
23 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Shenzhen FC
25 Jul    Pre-season    United XI Vs Port Vale
27 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Guangzhou Pharmaceutical       

August 2007
01 Aug    Pre-season    United Vs Inter Milan          
03 Aug    Pre-season    United XI Vs Doncaster Rovers          
05 Aug    FA Charity Shield    United Vs Chelsea             
08 Aug    Pre-season    United XI Vs Glentoran FC       
08 Aug    Pre-season    United XI  Vs Dunfermline Athletic    



Asian Tour 07
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17 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Urawa Red Diamonds    
                         FT 2-2
Team Line-ups:

United: Van der Sar, Brown, Ferdinand (Evans, 45), Vidic (Simpson, 45), Evra (Silvestre, 45), Ronaldo, Fletcher, Carrick (O'Shea, 69), Giggs (Smith, 69), Scholes, Rooney
Subs: Kuszczak, Heaton, Bardsley

Urawa Red Diamonds: Tsuzuki (Yamagishi, 45), Hosogai, Horinouchi, Nene, Yamada, Uchidate (Hiriwaka, 45), Hasebe, Soma (Okano, 91), Ono, Ponte (Koike, 83), Tanaka (Nagai, 75)
Subs: Tsutsumi, Sakai, Nishizawa

Full Report:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=444919&page=1

Highlights:

Uchidate 1-0 http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/man+utd+urawa/video/x2k42y_urawa-red-diamonds-1-0-manchester-u
Fletcher 1-1
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/man+utd+urawa/video/x2k45j_urawa-red-diamonds-1-1-manchester-u
Ronaldo 2-1
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/man+utd+urawa/video/x2k49a_urawa-red-diamonds-1-2-manchester-u
Ono 2-2
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/man+utd+urawa/video/x2k4em_urawa-red-diamonds-2-2-manchester-u



20 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs FC Seoul       
                                                    FT 4-0
Team Line-ups:

United: van der Sar (Kuszczak, 45), Bardsley (Simpson, 45), Ferdinand, Vidic (Evans, 77), Silvestre, Eagles, Carrick (Scholes, 45), O'Shea, Evra, Rooney (Smith, 45), Ronaldo (Giggs, 45)

FC Seoul: Kim (Kim, 82), Kwak, Adilson, Lee (Kim, 45), Kon (Koh, 73), Choi, Ki (Song, 82), Lee Chung-Yong, Ricardo (Ahn, 73), Lee, Jung (Shim, 45)

Full Report:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=445946&page=1

Highlights:
Ronaldo 1-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/fc+seoul/video/x2kxr6_ronaldo-goal-vs-fc-seoul_sport
Eagles 2-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/man+utd/video/x2kxwo_eagles-goal-vs-fc-seoul_sport
Rooney 3-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/fc+seoul/video/x2kxs4_rooney-goal-vs-fc-seoul_sport
Evra 4-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/man+utd/video/x2kxzv_evra-goal-vs-fc-seoul_sport



23 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Shenzhen FC          
                                                    FT 6-0
Team Line-up:

United: van der Sar (Kuszczak, 45), Brown, Vidic (Ferdinand, 45), Evans, Evra (Silvestre, 59), Nani (Carrick, 59), Fletcher, Gibson (O'Shea, 45), Ronaldo (Eagles, 59), Giggs (Smith, 45), Rooney (Dong, 59)

Full Report:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=447097

Highlights:
Giggs 1-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/GOAAAAL/video/x2lqox_01-giggs
Rooney 2-0 :o :o
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/manchester+fcshenzhen/video/x2lpg4_fcshenzhenmu02butroompg_extreme
Nani 3-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/manchester+fcshenzhen/video/x2lpgx_fcshenzhenmu03butnanits_extreme
O'Shea 4-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/GOAAAAL/video/4374314
Ronaldo 5-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2lq6u_fc-shenzhen-0-5-manchester-united-c_sport
Eagles 6-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2lqa8_fc-shenzhen-0-6-manchester-united-e_sport



27 Jul    Pre-season    United Vs Guangzhou Pharmaceutical       
                                                    FT 3-0
Team Line-ups

United: Kuszczak (Heaton 46); Bardsley, Vidic (Silvestre 58), Ferdinand (Brown 58), Simpson; Martin (Evra 58), Carrick, Gibson (O'Shea 46), Nani (Eagles 58); Rooney (Ronaldo 76), Dong (Smith 62)
Unused subs: Evans, Fletcher

Guangzhou: Shuai; Zhihai (Xichang 74), Dechao (Suozhi 83), Yan, Wenpeng (Zhixing 56), Z Lin (Xianrong 69); Pengfeng (Yong 56), Zhijie (Zhiyi 69), Oliveira, L Lin (Deen 56); Batista (Junyan 56).

Full Report:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=447950&page=1

Highlights
Rooney 1-0
http://www.dailymotion.com/GOAAAAL/video/4422202
Nani 2-0 :o
http://www.dailymotion.com/GOAAAAL/video/4422249
Martin 3-0 ;)
http://www.dailymotion.com/GOAAAAL/video/4422502


United XI Pre-Season:

Utd XI vs Port Vale
FT 2-3

Team:
Manchester United XI: Ron-Robert Zieler, Richard Eckersley, Adam Eckersley, Michael Lea, Ryan Shawcross, Richard Jones, Kieran Lee, Sam Hewson, Frazier Campbell, Guiseppi Rossi, Michael Barnes. Subs: Gary Woods, Jimmy Derbyshire, Oli Norwood, Danny Srinkwater, Corry Evans, Sean Evans, JamesChester, Craig Cathcart.

Highlights:
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dr. Rat on August 02, 2007, 12:34:08 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/7084948


Utd recruits 9-year-old featured on Internet
Associated Press
Posted: 1 hour ago

Manchester United has recruited a 9-year-old soccer prodigy based on video footage featuring his skills.
The club brought in Rhain Davis after his grandfather sent a DVD to United youth staff showing the boy playing for an under-10 team in Brisbane, Australia.

"Manchester United is proud of its history of developing talented young players, and invests considerable time and resources into trying to find the best young players of the future," the club said in a statement.


In Davis' case, however, United need only have invested four minutes. That is the length of a YouTube clip featuring Davis's dribbling, stepover and goal-scoring skills - viewed more than 800,000 times on the site - that has led fans to describe him as the next Wayne Rooney.

The club has downplayed such hype, pointing out that it recruits about 40 players of Davis' age every year, and that Davis' status with the club will be subject to the same annual review as any other youth player.

Davis has moved to England and is training with a United youth squad.

"Being here has been brilliant," The Sun newspaper quoted Davis as saying. "The best part has been meeting a lot of the players, like Wayne Rooney."

Davis was born in England and has a British passport. His grandfather lives in England.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: redtrinigirl on August 02, 2007, 12:43:58 PM
And allyuh thought Wenger was bad  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RasIred on August 02, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
Well is the yute grandfather that start the ball rolling.......so u cah balme MAN u . ;D Balme the family  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on August 02, 2007, 12:55:03 PM
And allyuh thought Wenger was bad  ::)

It had rumours of wenger goin in catalan hospitals delivery wards and asking de mother how much times de baby kick and ting during de pregnancy :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dr. Rat on August 02, 2007, 01:06:56 PM
And allyuh thought Wenger was bad  ::)

It had rumours of wenger goin in catalan hospitals delivery wards and asking de mother how much times de baby kick and ting during de pregnancy :devil:

Somebody give this fella ah Crix Biscuit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on August 02, 2007, 01:11:11 PM
And allyuh thought Wenger was bad  ::)

It had rumours of wenger goin in catalan hospitals delivery wards and asking de mother how much times de baby kick and ting during de pregnancy :devil:
   lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: duscam on August 02, 2007, 01:14:09 PM
men talking bout blame...that is the best thing to happen to that youth...shape him alex!!shape him!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 02, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
Boy my daughter as good as he. He however has 2 thing that she doesn't have...yet. Full cordination and better striking of the ball.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 02, 2007, 01:59:46 PM
Boy my daughter as good as he. He however has 2 thing that she doesn't have...yet. Full cordination and better striking of the ball.

Well send a tape to Arsenal girls team...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Filho on August 02, 2007, 02:01:55 PM
posted this earlier

have a look ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_RS4Q1myc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dr. Rat on August 02, 2007, 02:41:17 PM
posted this earlier

have a look ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_RS4Q1myc

Center of balance like that crack head they call Diego.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: weary1969 on August 02, 2007, 09:32:13 PM
What's the problem? What age Tiger father had him hiting golf balls. Venus and Serena parents went and have him with the intention of them playin tennis
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Quags on August 02, 2007, 09:36:13 PM
The Title of this tread ,reminds me of Quincy Jones warning to Micheal Jackson years ago .
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Grande on August 02, 2007, 10:36:11 PM
What's the problem? What age Tiger father had him hiting golf balls. Venus and Serena parents went and have him with the intention of them playin tennis

I doh see de problem either...nuff teams have youth recruiters constantly looking for future prospects. Is de youth side he wil be playing for, not senior. Over-expectant parents does even push dey kids into the game by trying to get them in the youth squad of a big name side. If this little feller like football and have obvious talent...well good for he. Not many does survive going up the ranks though so we will see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ttgapers on August 03, 2007, 06:29:30 AM
They have always done this...TnT once again need to learn from this.

supa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Savannah boy on August 03, 2007, 07:38:01 PM
De boy could play eh.  Ah would n't say he fast but he have some moves and good shooting skills.  De video also shows how disorganized and horrendous de opposition is.  I've been coaching this age group for the last 3 years and none of my teams looked so bad.  It had a Brazilian yute who came 2 years ago and we had to move him up two age brackets and he still end up as de Top Scorer.  It have real talent everywhere.  Sometimes yuh need luck but where preparation meets opportunity, great things happen.  I wish him luck because is only a few years to go before de hacking start to replace de matador defense.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Socafan on August 03, 2007, 08:35:50 PM
The Title of this tread ,reminds me of Quincy Jones warning to Micheal Jackson years ago .

LOL!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 03, 2007, 09:17:26 PM
Quote
Re: Man U Going after Kids Now!
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2007, 11:36:13 PM »   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Title of this tread ,reminds me of Quincy Jones warning to Micheal Jackson years ago .

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Post of the year
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Grande on August 03, 2007, 11:46:12 PM
The Title of this tread ,reminds me of Quincy Jones warning to Micheal Jackson years ago .

how I miss that one boy  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Zeppo on August 04, 2007, 04:03:06 AM
Man Utd video star faces tough task

If you didn't know the name Rhain Davis before, you almost certainly do now.

The nine-year-old, a recent recruit for Manchester United's academy, is now the talk of football - thanks to a DVD of him in action for Brisbane club Redlands United.

He even made the front page of The Sun newspaper - who have immediately, and somewhat inevitably, dubbed him the new Wayne Rooney.

(continue) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/skills/6927568.stm)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Zeppo on August 04, 2007, 12:14:51 PM
Only 9 years old, youngster captures the soccer world

Rhain Davis has journeyed from Brisbane, Australia, to enroll in the Manchester United academy in England. He is 9.

The flow of embryonic soccer talents across oceans is quickening, and Davis may be part of a new trend - boyhood precocity spotted via the Internet.

During the past week, Freddy Adu has left the United States to join Benfica of Portugal, Alexandre Pato has arrived at AC Milan from Brazil and Pier Larraurio of Peru has started to take lessons with Bayern Munich.

(continue) (http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/03/sports/soccer.php?page=1)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Zeppo on August 06, 2007, 04:22:05 AM
YouTube prodigy deserves space to fully develop

Rhain Davis has created a YouTube phenomenon around a schoolchild that, for once, doesn't involve happy-slapping. Manchester United's nine-year-old signing is at the forefront of a new way to project sporting prodigies into the public eye.

The four-minute clip highlighting Davis' extraordinary mastery of a football is heading beyond four million hits on the hugely popular video-posting website. More people have already witnessed him in action than most lower-league professionals experience over an entire career.

(continue) (http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/thewingcolumn/display.var.1597118.0.0.php)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 07, 2007, 05:45:29 PM
Utd recruits 9-year-old featured on Internet 
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MANCHESTER, England (AP) - Manchester United has recruited a 9-year-old soccer prodigy based on video footage featuring his skills.

The club brought in Rhain Davis after his grandfather sent a DVD to United youth staff showing the boy playing for an under-10 team in Brisbane, Australia.
"Manchester United is proud of its history of developing talented young players, and invests considerable time and resources into trying to find the best young players of the future," the club said in a statement.


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In Davis' case, however, United need only have invested four minutes. That is the length of a YouTube clip featuring Davis's dribbling, stepover and goal-scoring skills - viewed more than 800,000 times on the site - that has led fans to describe him as the next Wayne Rooney.

The club has downplayed such hype, pointing out that it recruits about 40 players of Davis' age every year, and that Davis' status with the club will be subject to the same annual review as any other youth player.

Davis has moved to England and is training with a United youth squad.

"Being here has been brilliant," The Sun newspaper quoted Davis as saying. "The best part has been meeting a lot of the players, like Wayne Rooney."

Davis was born in England and has a British passport. His grandfather lives in England.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 07, 2007, 05:47:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG47FDenyXw
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 07, 2007, 05:48:19 PM
This one get posted already .
lo siento.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on August 07, 2007, 06:00:32 PM
All he missing is ah TALL HAT for dem men yes.....HE good for he age :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2007, 10:21:33 AM
Article above posted by Zeppo mentions Pierre Larrauri Corroy ... I missed it at the time of posting but just yesterday someone brought the player to my attention ... not only is his on-field demanour wicked, but his interviewing style and ease manifest a level of maturity and confidence that's hard to miss.

http://www.goal.com/images/21606_hp.jpg

13 year-old affiliated with Bayern ... Peruvian; born in Italy ...

Time will tell

*****

I recently saw a compilation of video of a player with whom I'm personally familiar. The footage begins with him @ age 3 ... he's now approaching 15 ... the progression alone is compelling as is the age-specific ability ... but the most outstanding thing on the video was his technical skill ... further, there's a relaxed part of the clip in which his Brazilian individual trainer does a trick and then the kid repeats it first time having never seen/performed some of the stuff ... then it turns into a trick challenge back and forth between both of them ... quite impressive ... sort of like a choreographer demonstrating to dancers in one take ... the constant throughout the video is the goalscoring ... perhaps 50 or more of them ...

When I met him at 8 his parents had already been speaking to him about being a professional player. He had the idiosyncratic thing going on as well ... long hair etc ... his look was so completely androgynous most observers didn't know whether he was a phenomenal girl or boy ...

They're from Ukraine and are fully dedicated to their only kid ...he's met some famous Brazilian players along the way ... he's Brazil crazy ... worst case scenario is that this kid will be a very competent collegiate player ... but they're encouraged he can find playing space above this level and will examine that to the end of the horizon ... meanwhile, the kid studies as hard as he practices ...

I shared the video with some oldheads (including the guy who pointed Larrauri out to me who has German lower division playing experience) and they were wowed ...

... as far as reliance on video evaluation generally ... in discussing the composition of his squad and my insistence that we had some secondary school players in T&T that could make the grade ... a head coach once told me that he's reluctant to depend on it, especially in the US college scene because of the uneveness of high school competition ... so level of competition at travelling team/elite play is key re: evaluation ... certainly ManU must receive hundreds of video applicants every year ...
Title: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Andre on August 31, 2007, 10:43:06 AM
who u with?

i know it have some people here who is support manu like they born & raise in manchester.


Sat Sep 01 09:00AM Pacific
Sat Sep 01 10:00AM Mountain
Sat Sep 01 11:00AM Central
Sat Sep 01 12:00PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr 15 min    LIVE

FOX Soccer Channel (FSC)
English Premier League
Manchester United vs Sunderland

BBC prediction:
The return of Roy Keane to Old Trafford. But he's now had a realisation of what it will take to stay in this division. He's addressed that by bringing in a few new players this week.

I expect Sunderland to battle and scrap as their manager did when he played, but Man United will just have too much quality.

Prediction: 2-0
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 31, 2007, 10:44:59 AM
more like 4-1 man u.i want KJ score.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Andre on August 31, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
yuh think jones match fit or know de sunderland system man?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: WestCoast on August 31, 2007, 10:48:08 AM
who u with?
i know it have some people here who is support manu like they born & raise in manchester.
and if i was a betting man, i would say they supported Crotch and Hengland in de World Cup also :devil:


KJ 1 - 0 ManBoo
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Founder of
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allya want to join? contact Mango Chow :D
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2007, 10:58:27 AM
who u with?

i know it have some people here who is support manu like they born & raise in manchester.



u doh have to live in england or manchester to support a football team from england eh lol, same goes for spain and italy and other countries, so then what u saying is only people born in manchester can support manchester utd and other clubs lol.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Grande on August 31, 2007, 11:04:55 AM
what time is the game on Saturday?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: WestCoast on August 31, 2007, 11:06:12 AM
what time is the game on Saturday?
12 noon T.O. time
I think
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Grande on August 31, 2007, 11:11:42 AM
what time is the game on Saturday?
12 noon T.O. time
I think

Nice...I will be done work by then

Sunderland 3, Men Utd 0 (Jones, Chopra, C. Ronaldo OG)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: WestCoast on August 31, 2007, 11:12:57 AM
what time is the game on Saturday?
12 noon T.O. time
I think

Nice...I will be done work by then

Sunderland 3, Men Utd 0 (Jones, Chopra, C. Ronaldo OG   :rotfl: :rotfl: after he take a swan dive to draw a penalty  :devil: )
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Filho on August 31, 2007, 11:13:51 AM
SUNDERLAND

SUNDERLAND

SUNDERLAND

substitute Jones in the 93rd minute...towering header.

1 - 0

Final
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: freakazoid on August 31, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
actually i think he missing dis game final one of his suspension
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2007, 11:15:58 AM
 :devil: I LIKE THIS THREAD
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: kicker on August 31, 2007, 11:28:40 AM
GO SUN'LUN' !!!!!!!!!!!

(Doh mind they likely to get a serious cutass)

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: freakazoid on August 31, 2007, 11:31:37 AM
i think the 1st 20 mins of this game very important.......if utd score in that time it over 4 sunderland

the longer the game stays goalless the more manu will panic and the more confidence sunderland will get
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: WestCoast on August 31, 2007, 11:32:47 AM
i think the 1st 20 mins of this game very important.......if utd score in that time it over 4 sunderland
the longer the game stays goalless the more manu will panic and the more confidence sunderland will get
den some man boo fella go pull KJ hair
watch
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2007, 11:35:45 AM
GO SUN'LUN' !!!!!!!!!!!

(Doh mind they likely to get a serious cutass)



 :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Brej on August 31, 2007, 11:36:46 AM
correct me if im wrong but ah doh think jones even on de team fellas
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: freakazoid on August 31, 2007, 11:40:12 AM
dont understand what u mean brej....jones squad number is 17
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Grande on August 31, 2007, 11:41:50 AM
Man Utd vs Sunderland
BBC Sport


Old Trafford
Saturday, 1 September
Kick-off: 1715 BST
Coverage on the BBC Sport website, BBC Radio Five Live & highlights on Match of the Day.


Man Utd striker Louis Saha makes his long-awaited return to the squad after injury and Anderson could feature too.

Wayne Rooney (foot), Gary Neville (thigh) and Cristiano Ronaldo (banned) are out and Ole Solskjaer has retired.

Sunderland new boys Kenwyne Jones and Danny Higginbotham could play, though Jones has a slight hamstring problem.

Ian Harte and Andrew Cole are short of match fitness, Greg Halford is banned and Paul McShane (shoulder) and Kieran Richardson (back) are doubts.


Man Utd (from): Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Heaton, Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, O'Shea, Evra, Silvestre, Fletcher, Eagles, Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson, Giggs, Saha, Tevez.

Sunderland (from): Gordon, Ward, Nosworthy, Kay, McShane, Anderson, Higginbotham, Collins, Wallace, Etuhu, Yorke, Miller, Leadbitter, Richardson, Chopra, Jones, Stokes, Murphy, Connolly, O'Donovan.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: JDB on August 31, 2007, 01:34:09 PM
Lat time United played Sunderland they had a blinder and the score was 0-0 killing United's late push for the title.

Sunderland is the kinda side that usually salts United, like West ham last year and with Keane, Yorke, McSHane, Richardson and Higginbotham all returning to United , an upset would make a big big story.

I don't think that this one is a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: supporter on August 31, 2007, 08:44:43 PM
Really looking forward to this one!! Hopefully KJ is fit enough to go. If he gets on expect a goal for the 6 mill pound man!

i also say yorke will have a great game.

...the bias is outta control but i dont care, my gut is telling me its happening.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Daft Trini on August 31, 2007, 08:58:50 PM
Man U forever, de last time Sunderland was in de premiership, dey has a record of having de least points in the Premiership. Here we go again.....

Man Utd forever.....

There is only one team on the time and that is Newcastle FC, Sunlun jess living in the toon's shadow.

(Yes I is ah dam ignorant Man Utd fan and I love it)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: Touches on August 31, 2007, 09:10:06 PM
Sunderland winning

United have nuttin up front and dey does always ketch they arse with small side who running wild and doh have no brand.

United need to play side who giving yuh space and who stroking the ball around to look good.

They cyar play the jam hard and run side.

My name is Touches and I am a ManU hater.

I support any team that plays against them.

GO SUNDERLAND!!!!!

Kenwyne I want yuh ripp that shithound Rio and rest a toepee past Van Der Sar...Not no bullet...but a PROPER TOEPEE...thru he legs too.

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: PantherX on August 31, 2007, 09:45:06 PM
I said in another thread that I would support Sunderland this season except when they play my boys.

Go Black cats!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: berris on August 31, 2007, 10:52:35 PM
I would love to see KJ and or Dwight score 2moro especially KJ so he cud get off to a great start but I cannot fool meh self here.Man u smell blood last week and will show they are a big big club and will pounce hard on Sunderland .If all yuh feel Sir Alex taking this game lightly and not looking to destroy Keane all yuh eh really know how de premiership go.As far as Man U concern dey cannot afford to lose or even draw another game, if dey want to repeat and will destroy Sunderland 2moro.

 p.s I only back Sunderland becuz of Carlos,Dwight,Stern/KJ and no other reason.. before we players was on dah team ah sure none ah we use to back dem so all yuh doh vex wid meh ah just calling it like ah see it,bad blows 2moro for Sunderland.
Title: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 07:03:14 AM
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has mixed emotions as prepares to face Sunderland.

As he looks forward to welcoming back former club captain Roy Keane to Old Trafford, the veteran boss is still coming to terms with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's early retirement.

Both players have carved their name in United's folklore and earned Ferguson's respect in the process.

Keane is beginning to make as much of an impact as a manager as he did as player, leading Sunderland into the Barclays Premier League in his first season in charge.

Ferguson said: ``Roy will get a great reception and that's what makes me proud to be manager here. It tells you what a great club we are.

``Former players like Bryan Robson, Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce get a fantastic reception.

``Sometimes the supporters actually chant the players' names. I remember that happening to Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham.

``Mind you, someone did wave back once and got absolutely slaughtered.''

While Keane's departure from United was swift and unexpected, Ferguson has nothing but admiration for him.

He said: ``When players are coming to the end of their career, it is a difficult time.

``They are almost family and it is not easy when they have to leave.

``They have been great servants and great players for you. I have had to do it a few times.''

Solskjaer's time is up, however, after persistent knee problems meant limited appearances for a striker who famously scored the winner for United in the 1999 European Cup final.

Ferguson revealed the Norwegian knew he had to hang up his boots when he broke down in training last week.

He said: ``Ole's latest operations in March and in the summer got to him in big way in a sense he felt it was hard to get back from it.

``He tried to train 10 days ago and it did not work out again.

``I think he knew he had to face reality. He could easily have jogged along and taken his money but not Ole.

``He faced the situation and spoke to me about it. In many ways it is the right moment because it gives him a chance to be a coach with us.''

With Solsjkaer forced to quit and Wayne Rooney ruled out with a broken foot, Ferguson is short on attacking options.

However Louis Saha (knee) and Anderson (hamstring) are likely to come into contention against Sunderland.

Keane does not expect the red carpet to be rolled out for his return to the scene of his greatest triumphs.

Keane won seven Premiership titles, four FA Cups and was a frustrated by-stander as United completed an unprecedented Treble in 1999 by lifting the Champions League trophy in Barcelona during a remarkable 12-year spell at the club.

His place in the United pantheon is assured despite his later differences with the fiery Scot which served to hasten his exit to Celtic in November 2005 after 480 appearances.

However, Keane will walk back through the doors expecting nothing in the way of star treatment.

He said: ``I am not expecting a red carpet or hugs and kisses from anybody. I won't be and I wouldn't expect it.

``Let's be under no illusions here, United and Alex Ferguson will want to beat Sunderland and myself as much as any other club, and rightly so. You wouldn't expect anything different.

``I have said many times before, I have played against teams before there and you just looked at them in the tunnel and they were already beaten.

``We have just got to make sure we are not beaten in the tunnel.''

Keane celebrated - if celebrated is the right word during a week in which his side was humbled in the Carling Cup by League One Luton and on-loan defender Clive Clarke almost died during Leicester's game at Nottingham Forest - a year at the helm this week.

It has been nothing if not eventful with last season's surge from the foot of the Championship table to its pinnacle fully rewarding the faith placed in him by chairman Niall Quinn.

Keane said: ``It's only been a year, it's very, very surprising. It seems a lot longer, but I am certainly enjoying it.''

It is not in Keane's nature to shirk a challenge and the prospect of taking on Ferguson, who along with Brian Clough, took his football education to new levels, is one he is relishing.

He said: ``Alex Ferguson came from Scotland and he is clearly a winner, he was just motivated by winning, whether it be when we played the top teams or the bottom teams, a game of cards on the bus, he wanted to win.

``It was fantastic working with him and I count my blessings that I was given that opportunity.''
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: socabee on September 01, 2007, 07:15:05 AM
this match is going to be a draw
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 07:39:42 AM
Ferguson said: ``Roy will get a great reception and that's what makes me proud to be manager here. It tells you what a great club we are.

``Former players like Bryan Robson, Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce get a fantastic reception.

``Sometimes the supporters actually chant the players' names. I remember that happening to Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham.

``Mind you, someone did wave back once and got absolutely slaughtered.''

lmao
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: christiano on September 01, 2007, 08:20:55 AM
I NEED AM INTERNET LINK TO SEE THIS GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???
Title: MANU VS SUNDERLAND LINK
Post by: christiano on September 01, 2007, 08:38:29 AM
Sorry to start a new thread but i need an internet link audio and video for this match. HELP ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 08:41:05 AM
can some1 tell me y newcastle start owen when they have martins and ameobi on d bench...... steups if they were on the field newcastle woulda be 2 up already
Title: Re: MANU VS SUNDERLAND LINK
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 08:42:41 AM
stop panicking and scroll down nah dread.

This is the standard link for CenturyFM who gives audio commentary of all Sunderland matches.

http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup= 35550

Seeing that is MAn U they playing you are sure to have a bunch of pirate feeds on the usual P2P sites...
Title: Kenwyne Jones to make Premiership Debut at Old Trafford, Cole on Bench
Post by: Warrior till death on September 01, 2007, 08:42:51 AM
Kenwyne Jones and Danny Higginbotham are in line to make their Sunderland debuts at Manchester United tomorrow.

Both players were in the Black Cats squad that travelled to the North-West this afternoon.

Dean Whitehead (knee), Carlos Edwards (hamstring) and Stanislav Varga (knee) are missing from Sunderland's injury-hit squad.

And there is a doubt over ex-United man Kieran Richardson (back), but Paul McShane (shoulder) is expected to be fit.

Greg Halford is suspended so Nyron Nosworthy, formerly a full-back, is favourite to play at right-back.

The game comes too soon for Andrew Cole - the former United striker is not yet match fit - and new signing Ian Harte is unlikely to feature despite receiving his international clearance today.

Grant Leadbitter could start his first Premier League game of the season.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 08:43:33 AM
can some1 tell me y newcastle start owen when they have martins and ameobi on d bench...... steups if they were on the field newcastle woulda be 2 up already
take ya Toon Toon talk some wheres else nuh
ya cyar see dis is ah Sunderland tread :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 01, 2007, 08:44:23 AM
Alyuh ah just wake up... so go easy. Carlos,Yorke and KJ playing today in the game or what...does anyone have an update. Post something...so ah could get ready to actup like is WC again.  ;D
Title: Re: Kenwyne Jones to make Premiership Debut at Old Trafford, Cole on Bench
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 08:44:54 AM
source please

The mere fact that this is not KJ's premiership debut makes me doubt...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 08:46:21 AM
well u had to be sleeping 4 ah while   ::)cause carlos injured a while now
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 08:48:33 AM
Alyuh ah just wake up... so go easy. Carlos,Yorke and KJ playing today in the game or what...does anyone have an update. Post something...so ah could get ready to actup like is WC again.  ;D
dread
tell we you was liming wid Osama and day ent even have radio day, as Carlos injured for two weeks now man
Title: Re: Kenwyne Jones to make Premiership Debut at Old Trafford, Cole on Bench
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
source please

The mere fact that this is not KJ's premiership debut makes me doubt...
good one
keep dem legal Midknight
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 01, 2007, 09:03:34 AM
Alyuh ah just wake up... so go easy. Carlos,Yorke and KJ playing today in the game or what...does anyone have an update. Post something...so ah could get ready to actup like is WC again.  ;D
dread
tell we you was liming wid Osama and day ent even have radio day, as Carlos injured for two weeks now man

Father…I thought thee man would have been back by now yes. Is are real serious injury he has because I really believed that is was something minor you  know.Dag!  If all them men was playing then we could have put some serious lash on Man-U today.  Nah ah not with Osama…I am with THE I AM! ;D
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 09:04:39 AM
Alyuh ah just wake up... so go easy. Carlos,Yorke and KJ playing today in the game or what...does anyone have an update. Post something...so ah could get ready to actup like is WC again.  ;D
dread
tell we you was liming wid Osama and day ent even have radio day, as Carlos injured for two weeks now man

is a shame eh lol  :devil:

manchester rules   :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 09:10:21 AM
Father…I thought thee man would have been back by now yes. Is are real serious injury he has because I really believed that is was something minor you  know.Dag!  If all them men was playing then we could have put some serious lash on Man-U today.  Nah ah not with Osama…I am with THE I AM! ;D
Cool man, we all wish he was part of de cutarse dat Man Boo goin an get today :devil: :devil:

ya want to join MU HA HA?
Man U Haters Association of Home and Away ;)
your name could be on the most desired list in all of Football
see here  (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30513.msg348985#msg348985)
talk to Mango Chow
dis is all in good fun of course eh
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 01, 2007, 09:18:28 AM
When Yorke was with man-u...I was ah real big fan. Ah was on the man-u web site everyday ordering jerseys from England and all the paraphernalia and thing. When Alex kind of dumped Yorke, after all that he did for them with the Treble etc. I started not liking them anymore giving away all merchandise I had related to that team. ;D
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
Father…I thought thee man would have been back by now yes. Is are real serious injury he has because I really believed that is was something minor you  know.Dag!  If all them men was playing then we could have put some serious lash on Man-U today.  Nah ah not with Osama…I am with THE I AM! ;D
Cool man, we all wish he was part of de cutarse dat Man Boo goin an get today :devil: :devil:

ya want to join MU HA HA?
Man U Haters Association of Home and Away ;)
your name could be on the most desired list in all of Football
see here  (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30513.msg348985#msg348985)
talk to Mango Chow
dis is all in good fun of course eh

When Yorke was with man-u...I was ah real big fan. Ah was on the man-u web site everyday ordering jerseys from England and all the paraphernalia and thing. When Alex kind of dumped Yorke, after all that he did for them with the Treble etc. I started not liking them anymore giving away all merchandise I had related to that team. ;D

look stop recruiting former man utd men, u know he still have we at heart  >:(  :devil: . doh study west coast Wehitis  join d winning team  MUBA (MAN UTD BALLERS ASSOCIATION)  ;D

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=30513.0
Title: Re: LINKS Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 09:39:46 AM
Hello everyone
here is the thread from the SMB, Thanks to Mackem Angels
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=267494

Starting lineup

Sunderland:

Gordon, Etuhu, Nosworthy, McShane, Higginbotham, Collins, Chopra, Jones, Leadbitter, Yorke, Wallace. Subs: Stokes, Murphy, Miller, Ward, Dennehey.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 09:42:58 AM
KJ starting.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2007, 09:46:17 AM
Allyuh see wt goin on at anfield?
6 friggin nil
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: g on September 01, 2007, 10:00:07 AM
Kenwyne Jones making his Sunderland debut at the theatre of dreams.... This one straight out of a story book yes...
Title: Re: MANU VS SUNDERLAND LINK
Post by: christiano on September 01, 2007, 10:03:35 AM
stop panicking and scroll down nah dread.

This is the standard link for CenturyFM who gives audio commentary of all Sunderland matches.

http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup= 35550

Seeing that is MAn U they playing you are sure to have a bunch of pirate feeds on the usual P2P sites...


Playing but with no audio !! HELP!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 10:04:16 AM

with all this bad weather if current go ah go cry
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 10:07:24 AM
stop panicking and scroll down nah dread.

This is the standard link for CenturyFM who gives audio commentary of all Sunderland matches.

http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup= 35550

Seeing that is MAn U they playing you are sure to have a bunch of pirate feeds on the usual P2P sites...


Playing but with no audio !! HELP!!!

dammit. I have the same problem. I'm open to all suggestions
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: skins on September 01, 2007, 10:13:33 AM
Look like Dwight is captain. Since when
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 10:16:38 AM
Look like Dwight is captain. Since when

he was captain against Liverpool or Luton as well. Did it a couple of times last season as well
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 10:16:52 AM
since whitehead get injured
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: JDB on September 01, 2007, 10:17:54 AM
I wish Yorke, KJ and Keane the best today.

Enjoy the weather, get some good excercise, dont't get injured or sent off, get some good beer when commiserating on the loss later today..
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: triniairman on September 01, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
Damn my paws just raising for this game, seeing Yorke at Old Trafford and Jones starting. For some reason I want them to win and I am a Man.U fan :-\
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 10:19:56 AM
Good luck KJ and DW.........
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 10:20:44 AM
stop panicking and scroll down nah dread.

This is the standard link for CenturyFM who gives audio commentary of all Sunderland matches.

http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup= 35550

Seeing that is MAn U they playing you are sure to have a bunch of pirate feeds on the usual P2P sites...


Playing but with no audio !! HELP!!!

dammit. I have the same problem. I'm open to all suggestions

working now
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: vb on September 01, 2007, 10:21:10 AM
Yuh boy watcing it live in Istanbul :-)

VB
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: SUPA on September 01, 2007, 10:21:40 AM
Alyuh ah just wake up... so go easy. Carlos,Yorke and KJ playing today in the game or what...does anyone have an update. Post something...so ah could get ready to actup like is WC again.  ;D

 :o  :o. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Allyuh see wt goin on at anfield?
6 friggin nil

Yeah boy, and i think Martin Jol need a bush bath
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 10:22:48 AM
jones hands down is d biggest man on d field
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dr. Rat on September 01, 2007, 10:23:38 AM
Jones is the man!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:24:21 AM
KJ Looking sharp.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: triniairman on September 01, 2007, 10:27:03 AM
I just heard ah man bawl out ""ay fu**in A" after he get taclkle yes.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 10:27:19 AM
Eh go lie- I expect Sunderland to get a spanking today, but seeing Kenwyne & Yorke out there in the starting line up is all I need to make my day today....If only Carlos was fit enough....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Trinderland
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 10:27:54 AM
what time is the game on Saturday?
12 noon T.O. time
I think

Nice...I will be done work by then

Sunderland 3, Men Utd 0 (Jones, Chopra, C. Ronaldo OG)

:-D

I'll go for Man U 1 - 2 SAFC

Kenwyne and Chopra, 1 each.

HAWAY THE LADS!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:31:02 AM
Sunderland looking ok. Not as moribund as the last 2 weeks.

Mabe is the change to looking like Hotspur, rather than wearing the normal mattress-cover stripes.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 10:31:29 AM
Eh go lie- I expect Sunderland to get a spanking today, but seeing Kenwyne & Yorke out there in the starting line up is all I need to make my day today....If only Carlos was fit enough....

Too right!  I can't wait for him to be fit again!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 10:32:07 AM
KJ Looking sharp.

look like he need some support though... only getting long balls to compete for and no one close to him when he win it
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
KJ Looking sharp.

Not too happy with his first touch- feet look a little heavy.... strong in the air though..

Yorke on the other hand is playing like a classy composed skipper- not enough punch to disturb a side like Man U- but definitely easy on the eyes, and comforting for his teammates
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 10:36:23 AM
His first touch is a mess. He battling well, though.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:39:02 AM
This pace really suit Sunderland eh. Man U really missing Rooney and Ronaldo.

But this long ball, knock down business. They need to work it wide a lil bit more I think.
Title: Re: LINKS Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: SUPA on September 01, 2007, 10:39:37 AM
Hello everyone
here is the thread from the SMB, Thanks to Mackem Angels
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=267494

Starting lineup

Sunderland:

Gordon, Etuhu, Nosworthy, McShane, Higginbotham, Collins, Chopra, Jones, Leadbitter, Yorke, Wallace. Subs: Stokes, Murphy, Miller, Ward, Dennehey.

Men doh arrive on ah new team and just go straight in tuh de starting line up, dat hardly ever happen. KJ just arrive and he starting, Keane and de rest ah Sunderland management really expecting big things from dis youth. Nuff, nuff blessings and guidance KJ. When we players doing well and playing in de top division, Supa does enjoy de moment, but fuh me de most important thing is de long term picture, which is having ah player wid dis type of experience fuh 2010 WCQ and ah possible captain and experienced leader fuh 2014 WCQ. KJ will be around 29 or 30, fuh de 2014 WCQ. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:41:15 AM
This pace really suit Sunderland eh. Man U really missing Rooney and Ronaldo.

But this long ball, knock down business. They need to work it wide a lil bit more I think.

Look the man on TV just agree with me. I my couch analysis skills have been confirmed  :P
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 10:42:35 AM
They need to work it wide a lil bit more I think.
They badly missing Carlos and Keiran. Altho Wallace on the left ain't bad.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 10:44:04 AM
Good work by Dwight threre!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Reaper2004 on September 01, 2007, 10:44:23 AM
Game goin good, Jones and Yorke playing very well but not much chances for Sunderland or United..........yet
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: vb on September 01, 2007, 10:44:35 AM
KJ Looking sharp.

Not too happy with his first touch- feet look a little heavy.... strong in the air though..

Yorke on the other hand is playing like a classy composed skipper- not enough punch to disturb a side like Man U- but definitely easy on the eyes, and comforting for his teammates

i agree,

KJ was giving away the ball too much in the beginning.

Yorkie still  good at 35

VB
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 10:52:44 AM
COMMON UTD AND SUNDERLAND  ::)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 10:54:03 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fatimarima on September 01, 2007, 10:54:53 AM
more updates..wha goin on?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: triniairman on September 01, 2007, 10:56:23 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
I noticed that too, maybe he's a little nervous.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:56:58 AM
more updates..wha goin on?

De game playng like T&T vs Sweden.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 10:58:49 AM
Kindah look like T&T england, to much defending by sunlin and very little offence.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 10:59:11 AM
COMMON UTD AND SUNDERLAND
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 10:59:57 AM
Kindah look like T&T england, to much defending by sunlin and very little offence.

I wanted to pick a game we eh lose nah.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 11:00:41 AM
more updates..wha goin on?

0-0 Man U bossing the game, but Sunderland staying organized and hustling well....

Kenwyne hasn't made an impression. Not mobile enough in my opinion..  Yorke so far so good, but a little risky in his overly composed style of play..

Yorke, Nosworthy & Chopra are Sunderland' best players on the field so far...Ethuhu puttin' in a good shift as well...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fatimarima on September 01, 2007, 11:01:47 AM
Thanks fellas, keep the updates commin.  I on thirst to see the game but no link so ah dependin on allyuh.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 11:02:14 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
I noticed that too, maybe he's a little nervous.

Nervousness should result in trying too hard as opposed to not trying hard enough...that's what I thought....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: E-man on September 01, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
Don't forget we have a chat http://chat.socawarriors.net
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?

IS stern fault
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 11:06:13 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
I noticed that too, maybe he's a little nervous.
Nah. That is how KJ does play sometimes. That was Southampton's biggest complaint. And allegedly that's why he and the Southampton coach fall out. They allegedly had a cuss out in training (according to some message board ah read the other day).
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: futbolfan on September 01, 2007, 11:06:40 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
I noticed that too, maybe he's a little nervous.

Nervousness should result in trying too hard as opposed to not trying hard enough...that's what I thought....

Kenwyne nursing a slight hamstring injury so he is not 100% .
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 11:08:53 AM
Easy, easy, easy!

Who are ya?  ;)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:09:50 AM
jones playing good
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: grskywalker on September 01, 2007, 11:11:53 AM
hey EVERYONE  you can see the GAME LIVE VIA TVU PLAYER.

HIGH SPEED CONNECTION REQUIRED. ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD THE PLAYER THE GAME IS SHOWING ON STAR SPORTS CHANNEL 10006

ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: legal alien on September 01, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
i was now checkin to see if there is a thread. i wonder if my tv on campus showing it.....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Grande on September 01, 2007, 11:12:47 AM
Still 0-0...I can see Man U scoring though because they dominating possession, at times is like power play in hockey

Yorke is very composed and reassuring like kicker mentioned...and I agree that Kenwyne could stand to hustle more. Chopra hustling plenty and he is a striker. Also when jumping to win the ball by header, not sure if Kenwyne hoping for a lucky bounce because Evra and Ferdinand always winning it (and Kenwyne has higher jump and bigger physique than them two)

Great to see him and Yorke starting though. Ferguson mussbe tell his players to mark Yorke hard because everytime he have the ball men converging on him.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 11:16:10 AM
the fellas on Setanta 1/2 time show saying good things about Sunderland.

Maybe Jones is a bit more injured than is made out to be
resulting in him being slower than he should be?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 11:16:32 AM
Ah think jones gonna pick it up in the 2nd half, he has to if they want to win. i think keane let him play that hands off game,plus them men on sunlun can't hold on to the ball long enough to spur onn the offence.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2007, 11:19:13 AM
If Sunderlan win some corners Jones will be a danger.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 11:22:51 AM
hey EVERYONE  you can see the GAME LIVE VIA TVU PLAYER.

HIGH SPEED CONNECTION REQUIRED. ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD THE PLAYER THE GAME IS SHOWING ON STAR SPORTS CHANNEL 10006

ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

what is the link for it......???
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:25:04 AM
If Sunderlan win some corners Jones will be a danger.

he looks like a giant  :o

hey EVERYONE  you can see the GAME LIVE VIA TVU PLAYER.

HIGH SPEED CONNECTION REQUIRED. ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD THE PLAYER THE GAME IS SHOWING ON STAR SPORTS CHANNEL 10006

ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

what is the link for it......???

here black chinee

two links

http://pages.tvunetworks.com/downloads/download.html?id=rdb_us

http://www.download.com/3001-2194_4-10652166.html
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 11:27:03 AM
Ah think jones gonna pick it up in the 2nd half, he has to if they want to win. i think keane let him play that hands off game,plus them men on sunlun can't hold on to the ball long enough to spur onn the offence.

Great touch by Kenwyne there!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 11:32:02 AM
Is it just me or is Kenwyne a little lazy on the ball pressuring end?
I noticed that too, maybe he's a little nervous.

Nervousness should result in trying too hard as opposed to not trying hard enough...that's what I thought....

Kenwyne nursing a slight hamstring injury so he is not 100% .

Fair enough- but hear nuh...lock the keys on yuh phone nah....yuh pocket dial meh again this mornin'- ah answer your call and iz only rustlin' in the background and baby cryin' in the distance.... ;D
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:34:06 AM
saha lookin dangerous
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 11:34:40 AM
Dwight's having a cracking game!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 11:36:05 AM
Kenwin look like he not even on the feild, Common sunlunlets attack and score.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:36:28 AM
Dwight's having a cracking game!

agreed
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:37:26 AM
jones and edwin just had a little tussle  :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: E-man on September 01, 2007, 11:38:05 AM
Best build up and chance so far - they need to do that a few more times
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 11:38:50 AM
hey EVERYONE  you can see the GAME LIVE VIA TVU PLAYER.

HIGH SPEED CONNECTION REQUIRED. ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD THE PLAYER THE GAME IS SHOWING ON STAR SPORTS CHANNEL 10006

ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks dread
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 11:41:44 AM
very nice hustle from kenwyne
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 11:42:50 AM
great worke from dwxight to break up the attack
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Daft Trini on September 01, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
Dwight is a true General, hands down.

Sell Chopra and buy Birchall.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 11:43:41 AM
Gordon is so far (score one Jones  ;) ) MOM for me
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 11:45:39 AM
Dwight is a true General, hands down.

Sell Chopra and buy Birchall.  :beermug:

 ;D Chopra aint have shit with Birchall bullets
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: fyl2u on September 01, 2007, 11:46:04 AM
Well played Kenwyne! Good debut!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 11:46:31 AM
unlucky KJ.... need some more support and better service
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 11:48:03 AM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 11:48:31 AM
shyte dem Man Boo men score
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Reaper2004 on September 01, 2007, 11:48:57 AM
GOAL BIATCHES!!!!!!!!!  :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 11:49:21 AM
keeper came like ah lil girl 4 dat ball steups

all now saha should be rolling on d ground
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2007, 11:50:21 AM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Daft Trini on September 01, 2007, 11:51:18 AM
In true de keeper fault. I saw Sunlun first game in person and they were a different team when they had a Rolls Royce, up and down de field. A bit of a luxury and class needed in their attack.

Good job KJ.... when carlos come back yuh go get de support!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 11:51:48 AM
If Sunderlan win some corners Jones will be a danger.

he looks like a giant  :o

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Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 11:52:13 AM
dis team NEED edwards there is no spark without

frontmen starved too
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Daft Trini on September 01, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
I think Sunderland need to buy Jason "golden boot" Scotland.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: PantherX on September 01, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
dis team NEED edwards there is no spark without

frontmen starved too

Unfortunately the commentators have said the Carlos is out for 6 months so they better find that spark from somewhere.

On another note...and I'm going to channel Small Mag here.... What de fack does a ManU player have to do get card these days???

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2007, 11:58:11 AM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

   When a corner or a cross is whipped in to the first post that quickly, the 'keeper doesn't have as much time to react to the speed of the cross as well as generate the force needed to move two and three men out the way to get to the ball.  His defenders have to make sure that NO united players get a run up to attack the ball.  Gordon had it covered until his own defender and Saha appeared in front of him.  Saha had no right being able to get to that ball, at least not if he was being marked out of the box.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 11:59:20 AM
dis team NEED edwards there is no spark without
And Richardson.

As soon as those two get healthy and match fit, you'll see a different team out there.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 12:00:17 PM
dis team NEED edwards there is no spark without

frontmen starved too

Unfortunately the commentators have said the Carlos is out for 6 months so they better find that spark from somewhere.

On another note...and I'm going to channel Small Mag here.... What de fack does a ManU player have to do get card these days???


Nah. Not Carlos. Dean Whitehead is out for six months. Another big player for them in midfield.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Bitter on September 01, 2007, 12:00:56 PM
I eh go lie. The only reason I still watching this game is the T&T connection.

Dreary.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: black chinee on September 01, 2007, 12:01:41 PM
Sunderland need to get out of this Championship long ball thing....... and put de ball down and play
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 12:02:03 PM
6 months?

hoss doh give men them kinda heart attack
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 12:02:21 PM
allyuh n c carrick face  :rotfl: :rotfl: i hear they say carrick getting ready to come on about 5 mins later i see carrick sitting down ....with he face like he ice cream cone fall on d ground  :rotfl: :rotfl:

football is d best oui
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: futbolfan on September 01, 2007, 12:02:42 PM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

as ah keeper, anything in yuh six yard box above shoulder height is yours...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 12:03:07 PM
shyte dem Man Boo men score

hard luck there  :beermug:  ;D

6 months?

hoss doh give men them kinda heart attack

i thought is a month
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 12:05:18 PM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

   When a corner or a cross is whipped in to the first post that quickly, the 'keeper doesn't have as much time to react to the speed of the cross as well as generate the force needed to move two and three men out the way to get to the ball.  His defenders have to make sure that NO united players get a run up to attack the ball.  Gordon had it covered until his own defender and Saha appeared in front of him.  Saha had no right being able to get to that ball, at least not if he was being marked out of the box.

hard luck mango  ;D
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 12:08:23 PM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

   When a corner or a cross is whipped in to the first post that quickly, the 'keeper doesn't have as much time to react to the speed of the cross as well as generate the force needed to move two and three men out the way to get to the ball.  His defenders have to make sure that NO united players get a run up to attack the ball.  Gordon had it covered until his own defender and Saha appeared in front of him.  Saha had no right being able to get to that ball, at least not if he was being marked out of the box.

Good point fully agree...the marking was bad....keeper appeared to be flapping a bit though. I eh sayin' it woulda been easy given the pace of the cross but I've seen keepers come charging through at the near post and get a solid fist on crosses like that that fall in the 6 yrd box- I think he coulda gotten there.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 12:11:17 PM
dis team NEED edwards there is no spark without
And Richardson.

As soon as those two get healthy and match fit, you'll see a different team out there.

losing both of them at the same time is really a big blow

All in all two very hard games back to back against 2 teams expected to play for the title. They weren't discreditted at all,but really need to show some creative spark.

Hopefully both Carlos and Richardson will be back after the international break and they could practice with the new strike force...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: PantherX on September 01, 2007, 12:13:33 PM
shyte dem Man Boo men score

hard luck there  :beermug:  ;D

6 months?

hoss doh give men them kinda heart attack

i thought is a month

According to the match commentators his injury is much worse than they first thought and the time stated was six months.  I'm trying to find another source to confirm this.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 01, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

   When a corner or a cross is whipped in to the first post that quickly, the 'keeper doesn't have as much time to react to the speed of the cross as well as generate the force needed to move two and three men out the way to get to the ball.  His defenders have to make sure that NO united players get a run up to attack the ball.  Gordon had it covered until his own defender and Saha appeared in front of him.  Saha had no right being able to get to that ball, at least not if he was being marked out of the box.

hard luck mango  ;D

       ;D Ah know allyuh B*&^%$S in allyuh glee today, eh!  De FA fix allyuh up wit a nice sorf opening schedule.......enjoy it while it last!    ;D

  
1-0 bad guys....

Keeper should have been all over that.
 

   Cyah blame de 'keeper fuh dat......poor marking.

bit of both- a keeper should not let a ball get into his six yard box at that height....he is supposed to come flying through there like a mad man taking everything down in his path...

futbol fan- how ah talk dey?

as ah keeper, anything in yuh six yard box above shoulder height is yours...

   That may be so in theory and in the often ideal environment of training sessions, but it can't always work out so in the reality of the game.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 12:18:01 PM
allyuh c babel goal

he put 2 man sit down one was facing the left the other the right and slot home d ball

that is embarassment
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 12:19:30 PM
shyte dem Man Boo men score

hard luck there  :beermug:  ;D

6 months?

hoss doh give men them kinda heart attack



i thought is a month

According to the match commentators his injury is much worse than they first thought and the time stated was six months.  I'm trying to find another source to confirm this.

probably a bad tear, that is d worse boy cah do shit on tht.



And the man utd train goes choo choo on  to the next stop  ;D (york and jones play good)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Grande on September 01, 2007, 12:22:10 PM
dat is 4kry I hope Carlos really eh out for 6 months nah

That was a hard luck for Sunderland...they went in on the defensive and the best way to score against that is a set play which is exactly what happen

Wallace shoulda let Yorke take the first free kick chance they had. He would be more likely to get it on target. But great game by the captain.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 12:22:18 PM
I think this team looked really good, they go beat lesser competition like everton and middlesboro ect. but  manU is ah bit to much pepper. the defence is really solid but the mid field needs some work , more or less a solid play maker wid pace. once again , no shots on goal ,no corners which is disgraceful for a prem team ,and most of all , no creativity in the mid feild, the forwards were starving today.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Reaper2004 on September 01, 2007, 12:25:55 PM
Victory is SOO SWEET eh Die hard???
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
dat is 4kry I hope Carlos really eh out for 6 months nah
Not carlos, whitehead homey. carlos should be back in two weeks.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: JDB on September 01, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
shyte dem Man Boo men score

hard luck there  :beermug:  ;D

6 months?

hoss doh give men them kinda heart attack

i thought is a month

According to the match commentators his injury is much worse than they first thought and the time stated was six months.  I'm trying to find another source to confirm this.

No need to check, the commentators did not say that. They were talking about Whitehead.Whitehead has a cruciate knee injury, Carlos has a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Grande on September 01, 2007, 12:30:19 PM
dat is 4kry I hope Carlos really eh out for 6 months nah
Not carlos, whitehead homey. carlos should be back in two weeks.

ok glad I worry for nothing, thanks  :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: saga pinto on September 01, 2007, 12:31:05 PM
The best player today for sunderland is dwight yorke hands down,but meh padner and I sit down watching the game and meh padner say the defense is tatter,plus dwight eh have no support,chopra have two left foot,he cyar even control ah ball properly,plus if they're to survive in the epl edwards have to get well soon,boy they in for ah very long spell.........
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Grande on September 01, 2007, 12:35:32 PM
The best player today for sunderland is dwight yorke hands down,but meh padner and I sit down watching the game and meh padner say the defense is tatter,plus dwight eh have no support,chopra have two left foot,he cyar even control ah ball properly,plus if they're to survive in the epl edwards have to get well soon,boy they in for ah very long spell.........

I don't mind de defense at all, I confident in Nosworthy and Higginbotham especially. The keeper did well today otherwise too.

Is the midfield I concerned about...but today they were all defending
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: andre samuel on September 01, 2007, 12:38:50 PM
I now see why it have so much bachannal on this site.

The commentator clearly stated that both carlos edwards and dean whitehead are key performers for Sunderland that are missing.

He then went on to say that Whitehead's injury is worse off than first thought.  He said that it was initially thought to be a six week lay off but now he will be out for up to six months.

How carlos name get call in dat?

Allyuh fellas ent easy atall.......

ah love it!!

On another note, Sunderland in ah real mess.....Lard fadder!! but I will still support them.

They need a creative midfielder really really badly.......someone who can be the link between the midfield and the forwards.......

The keeper real good, the goal was ah hard luck.

Kenwyne was king jumping jack today......but he fought hard.

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Big Magician on September 01, 2007, 12:57:27 PM
3 points...Small Mag get he 6 points he went for...I spoke with him 1 hr before kick off...he was outside Old Trafford waiting to see the players come in on the team bus...
right now he in the die hard Man Utd pub liming with some 60 yr olds...real hardcore....having a pint...ah really getting old yes...
and the lil man get invited to a wedding reception at the hotel he staying at in Manchester.....

hard luck to keano, yorkie and KJ...
oh and by the way...Stern John better that chopra.stokes and KJ put together/.....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 01, 2007, 01:02:14 PM
Just came back from sunlun MSB, and i have to say i am quite suprised BC they thought jones had a good game, not to much critique at all.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Big Magician on September 01, 2007, 01:07:58 PM
well why surprised ??...KJ did well....of course better is to come....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Filho on September 01, 2007, 01:08:11 PM
Fair enough debut from Kenwyne

He played up top by himself for a team that had no ideas in attack. He looked a little lazy in the first half, but I get the feeling he not match fit as this is his first game. He also has a slight injury and he proably played to instructions giving the long run out he got. Debut in an away game against ManU as the lone striker. Not bad at all. He def. picked up the intensity in the 2nd half. I was pleased to see all the Sunderland fans give him a standing ovation when he came off. He obviously worked even harder off the ball (and off the camera) than I could see on TV cuz you doh get no standing ovation from English fans if you eh have no hustle. His first touch when he had a little room looked good too

Dwight was a boss. No surprise that Roy gave him the full 90. Dwight is usually the first man off..Keane was just in giving him the full game. Hopefully this is just Yorke now getting back into the groove of the EPL. Took him a while to settle last year in the Championship too. Keep it up skipper

Sunderland needs Carlos and Richardson for a little spark in the attack

Chopra was unlucky but he worked hard. He is a dam good forward but was sacrificed tactically and played in the midfield for the most part. With service he is a natural born goalscorer..doh expect too much from him in the midfield..so I doh know what is this Bichall for Chopra talks  ;D

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 01:09:38 PM
Just came back from sunlun MSB, and i have to say i am quite suprised BC they thought jones had a good game, not to much ctitique at all.
You ent look around enough.

Most of dem think he do well. But some of dem done cussin him out and callin him a waste. I'd say bout 20%
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: maxg on September 01, 2007, 01:10:35 PM
I saw Jones go down and ah run outside and when ah comeback, no Jones..Was he injured?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Filho on September 01, 2007, 01:12:10 PM
3 points...Small Mag get he 6 points he went for...I spoke with him 1 hr before kick off...he was outside Old Trafford waiting to see the players come in on the team bus...
right now he in the die hard Man Utd pub liming with some 60 yr olds...real hardcore....having a pint...ah really getting old yes...
and the lil man get invited to a wedding reception at the hotel he staying at in Manchester.....

hard luck to keano, yorkie and KJ...
oh and by the way...Stern John better that chopra.stokes and KJ put together/.....

Stern better than Murphy and Stokes put together  ;D

Chopra basically played midfield today so yuh cyah judge that performance..

KJ is a boss. As  a trini yuh eh supposed to put him in that equation out of principal..doh mind yuh believe it in yuh bones  ;) :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
Good Game Man Boo

Sunderland have to do better which i am sure will happen soon enough as they have to get ready for the return game at the SOL in December
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: palos on September 01, 2007, 01:16:10 PM
I actually thought Chopra was quite decent playing out of position today.  He is a striker and was playin wide right midfield.  

Kenwyne could have put a bit more pressure on the defence when they had the ball I feel.  He was guilty of ball watchin quite a bit.  His first touch, especially early on in the game wasn't good at all.  Also thought he went down surprisingly easily under challenge.  I look back to the game against England and he gave both Terry (especially) and Ferdinand a lot more pressure then than today.  That said, he had a thankless task today with little or no support.  Not a bad debut especially in a tough environment.  On a side note, I'm impressed more and more with Vidic.  He is excellent and Man Utd has what I would call a true world class defender.

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I agree with the poster who said Sunderland badly needs a creative midfielder.  They have little creativity and it shows just how much they miss Carlos as he at least adds some attacking thrust to put some sort of pressure on the defence.  Murphy again did nothing for me.  He must perform real good in practice.

  
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 01:16:20 PM
I saw Jones go down and ah run outside and when ah comeback, no Jones..Was he injured?

I suspect Keane didn't want to make the same mistake he made with Carlos by leaving him to play too long with an injury
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: palos on September 01, 2007, 01:17:37 PM
Dwight was a boss. No surprise that Roy gave him the full 90. Dwight is usually the first man off..Keane was just in giving him the full game. Hopefully this is just Yorke now getting back into the groove of the EPL. Took him a while to settle last year in the Championship too. Keep it up skipper

Yorke did nothing to be subbed for...and it kinda hard to sub yuh skipper too.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 01:18:58 PM

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I was wondering if I was the only one who notice that...

A holding midfielder I guess ?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 01:23:32 PM
Victory is SOO SWEET eh Die hard???

it sweet we  :devil: take a drink on me  :beermug:

Good Game Man Boo


 :devil:  :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Arimaman on September 01, 2007, 01:35:03 PM
Sunderand look like a jokey team.  Them men cyar hold the fricken ball for 4 passes.  Both wingbacks need to go.  In the premiership, you wingbacks must help in the attack and neither of them comfortable with the ball at their feet.

Thank god for Yorke.  If wasn't fuk he, it wouldda be more boom kick.  Typical english football.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2007, 01:35:21 PM
I actually thought Chopra was quite decent playing out of position today.  He is a striker and was playin wide right midfield. 

Kenwyne could have put a bit more pressure on the defence when they had the ball I feel.  He was guilty of ball watchin quite a bit.  His first touch, especially early on in the game wasn't good at all.  Also thought he went down surprisingly easily under challenge.  I look back to the game against England and he gave both Terry (especially) and Ferdinand a lot more pressure then than today.  That said, he had a thankless task today with little or no support.  Not a bad debut especially in a tough environment.  On a side note, I'm impressed more and more with Vidic.  He is excellent and Man Utd has what I would call a true world class defender.

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I agree with the poster who said Sunderland badly needs a creative midfielder.  They have little creativity and it shows just how much they miss Carlos as he at least adds some attacking thrust to put some sort of pressure on the defence.  Murphy again did nothing for me.  He must perform real good in practice.

 

What game you was watching today?

Firstly, I find yorke put in real tackle and interceptions today.. He was getting back well and filling in the spaces.. To me,  it was a performance reminiscent of his World Cup performances.. Yorke was the only man on that side for me settling down the play and knocking the simple ball.. He was controlling the tempo of the game, and bringing some much needed calmness and structure to Sunderland's play.. Etuhu was doing more of the dogwork...

Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: PantherX on September 01, 2007, 01:36:26 PM
No need to check, the commentators did not say that. They were talking about Whitehead.Whitehead has a cruciate knee injury, Carlos has a hamstring injury.

Ooops my bad  :-X .
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Filho on September 01, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
Dwight was a boss. No surprise that Roy gave him the full 90. Dwight is usually the first man off..Keane was just in giving him the full game. Hopefully this is just Yorke now getting back into the groove of the EPL. Took him a while to settle last year in the Championship too. Keep it up skipper

Yorke did nothing to be subbed for...and it kinda hard to sub yuh skipper too.

I think he played well. And Dwight has been captaining the side and getting subbed quite early in every 2nd half..Even been subbed at half time as the skipper, so it ain't that hard to sub your skipper..not for Keano anyway..if he feel yuh eh doing the business. I think today Yorke did the business.

I think Yorke doing exactly what Guardiala used to do for Barca and Spain. He is an organizer. Not really a ball winner (that is Etuhu) and not killing you with a set of probing passes but controlling the tempo of the game by always being available for the ball and keeping possession allowing other player to get into position. to be fair..he won is fair share of tackles too

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2007, 01:42:19 PM
I now see why it have so much bachannal on this site.

The commentator clearly stated that both carlos edwards and dean whitehead are key performers for Sunderland that are missing.

He then went on to say that Whitehead's injury is worse off than first thought.  He said that it was initially thought to be a six week lay off but now he will be out for up to six months.

How carlos name get call in dat?

Allyuh fellas ent easy atall.......

ah love it!!

On another note, Sunderland in ah real mess.....Lard fadder!! but I will still support them.

They need a creative midfielder really really badly.......someone who can be the link between the midfield and the forwards.......

The keeper real good, the goal was ah hard luck.

Kenwyne was king jumping jack today......but he fought hard.

ah love it!!


thanks for clearing this up...

The bacchanal was because the commentators clearly mentioned carlos edwards, then said the "knee" injury was worse than first expected and instead of 6 weeks he'd be out 6 months.. Neither myself, nor the other 4 people I watched the game with heard anything about Whitehead.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: palos on September 01, 2007, 01:47:22 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2007, 01:49:13 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:

tek win??

wasn't no competition yuh talk a pack ah ass there....
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: StoreBayLimer on September 01, 2007, 01:53:16 PM

    Sunderland played well today.  The top 3 players were the keeper (Craig Gordon), Higginbotham, and Yorke.  Higginbotham was very impressive on his debut; with him in place the Sunderland defense ( with McShane and Nosworthy) is now definitely above CCchampionship quality.   Yorke played well today.  He was definitely energized and tracking back more often than usual to defend, etc .  Between the 20th min and 70 min, a significant fraction of the midfield play was going through Yorke.    Kenwyne looked decent on his debut.  I was happy and jumped-up when I saw his name on the starting line-up.  He did not get any real chance, and maybe not even a half-a-chance, so it is not possible to say too much.  I think the cheering by the fans when he came off,  was a way of saying welcome. On a team like Sunderland, the lone striker has to create the chances for himself; and that is asking too much from Jones at this time.

Tough luck on the goal, in some ways ManU got away with one today.  I agree with this
   When a corner or a cross is whipped in to the first post that quickly, the 'keeper doesn't have as much time to react to the speed of the cross as well as generate the force needed to move two and three men out the way to get to the ball.  His defenders have to make sure that NO united players get a run up to attack the ball.  Gordon had it covered until his own defender and Saha appeared in front of him.  Saha had no right being able to get to that ball, at least not if he was being marked out of the box.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: StoreBayLimer on September 01, 2007, 02:13:05 PM
I actually thought Chopra was quite decent playing out of position today.  He is a striker and was playin wide right midfield. 
...

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I agree with the poster who said Sunderland badly needs a creative midfielder.  They have little creativity and it shows just how much they miss Carlos as he at least adds some attacking thrust to put some sort of pressure on the defence.  Murphy again did nothing for me.  He must perform real good in practice.

 

What game you was watching today?

Firstly, I find yorke put in real tackle and interceptions today.. He was getting back well and filling in the spaces.. To me,  it was a performance reminiscent of his World Cup performances.. Yorke was the only man on that side for me settling down the play and knocking the simple ball.. He was controlling the tempo of the game, and bringing some much needed calmness and structure to Sunderland's play.. Etuhu was doing more of the dogwork...


Yorke made a few critical tackles today, especially the one sometime in the first quarter.  He also closed down the lanes of the attackers when they were just outside the box. Took away the ball from attackers like Saha (around the 80th min)  etc. One star in the midfield can only do so much. If he had capable wingers to work with or more than one forward, then the story would be different.  In the absence of Yorke, the Sunderland midfield does not look like that of a prem team as we saw in the Birmingham and Everton games.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Socafan on September 01, 2007, 02:32:57 PM

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I was wondering if I was the only one who notice that...

A holding midfielder I guess ?

Trust me....I see de same thing. De man only make about 2 mistakes, BUT, to me too often he slow down the forward motion of the team, and way too often, HIS PLAY RESULTED IN PRESSURE ON THE DEFENDERS, OR SOMEONE WHO HE PLAY A SLOW BALL TO.

Ah mean, allyuh understand me, the man just passing to the next nearest man, never forward only sideways, and at the slightest hint of pressure, backwards to the defence, and then he not supporting the pass he just made so he not involved in any one/twos, and the pass he making to the next man slow, slow slow, so the same pressure he was under the man he pass to under that same pressure too. Me eh sure if that is controlling midfield tempo. That is more like interrupting momentum. It just seems to me like he at odds with the rest of the team play.

But he eh really make any mistakes so I suppose........

Personally I woulda prefer more conviction going forward in that position.

Nosworthy is BS me eh care wha allyuh say. He touch de ball plenty too, but that is because he had no choice. After that was one setta boom kick football to no one in particular.

Sunderland looks like a team that needs plenty more playing time together. Sometimes they even looked downright disorganized, and they struggling to decide if they want to play a nice knock game or ah hoof kick long ball.
They better improve quick or else Stern might be the only Trini in the EPL next season. :devil:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 02:38:32 PM
I actually thought Chopra was quite decent playing out of position today.  He is a striker and was playin wide right midfield.  

Kenwyne could have put a bit more pressure on the defence when they had the ball I feel.  He was guilty of ball watchin quite a bit.  His first touch, especially early on in the game wasn't good at all.  Also thought he went down surprisingly easily under challenge.  I look back to the game against England and he gave both Terry (especially) and Ferdinand a lot more pressure then than today.  That said, he had a thankless task today with little or no support.  Not a bad debut especially in a tough environment.  On a side note, I'm impressed more and more with Vidic.  He is excellent and Man Utd has what I would call a true world class defender.

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I agree with the poster who said Sunderland badly needs a creative midfielder.  They have little creativity and it shows just how much they miss Carlos as he at least adds some attacking thrust to put some sort of pressure on the defence.  Murphy again did nothing for me.  He must perform real good in practice.

Hahaha...Palos yuh believe I was gonna start a thread asking the same question about Yorkie....I thought about it and I think he breaks up plays a little more than we give him credit for. He had two timely and very crucial tackles/interceptions around the area today that I can remember, and I'm sure he did some other ball winning that went somewhat unnoticed.
 
And by "sitting" in front of the defense, he does block channels- important and difficult to recognize as a spectator.

His ability to receive a ball in a high pressure situation and hold it up, so that the team can regain shape and rebuild with players in position cannot be taken forgranted either...He makes it look easy,so it could appear that he has a "stroll around the park" style of play, but I think the role is huge and alot more difficult to execute than you give it credit for especially at the frenetic pace of European/English football. I think Claudio Reyna does/did something very similar role-wise.

Yorke's game today was very similar to the game he played for us against England in the W.C.- a job very well done...  
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 02:45:52 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:

tek win??

wasn't no competition yuh talk a pack ah ass there....

I think he was saying that Pirlo & Latapy are bad examples because their passing is very incisive & creative.....While they do play a stabilizing role in a team, it's a stretch to say that they don't make advances into the attacking danger zone...That was the essence of Latas' game esp in his prime...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: real madness on September 01, 2007, 02:55:13 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: christiano on September 01, 2007, 03:13:19 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).

So i guess all them  men here who say BENNIE "mad for taking our best striker to play midfield" agree that not only BEENIE mad but KEANO mad the same way ?
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 03:19:57 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).

So i guess all them  men here who say BENNIE "mad for taking our best striker to play midfield" agree that not only BEENIE mad but KEANO mad the same way ?
as Dutty would say
Rimshot
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 01, 2007, 03:42:44 PM

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I was wondering if I was the only one who notice that...

A holding midfielder I guess ?

Trust me....I see de same thing. De man only make about 2 mistakes, BUT, to me too often he slow down the forward motion of the team, and way too often, HIS PLAY RESULTED IN PRESSURE ON THE DEFENDERS, OR SOMEONE WHO HE PLAY A SLOW BALL TO.

Ah mean, allyuh understand me, the man just passing to the next nearest man, never forward only sideways, and at the slightest hint of pressure, backwards to the defence, and then he not supporting the pass he just made so he not involved in any one/twos, and the pass he making to the next man slow, slow slow, so the same pressure he was under the man he pass to under that same pressure too. Me eh sure if that is controlling midfield tempo. That is more like interrupting momentum. It just seems to me like he at odds with the rest of the team play.

But he eh really make any mistakes so I suppose........

Personally I woulda prefer more conviction going forward in that position.

A once great and very powerful man in football echoed your sentiments regarding a certain player by the name of Claude Makalele.

He said, "He's useless, he's not skillfull, he can't head the ball or pass the ball more than 10 yards".

This ushered in a great period of demise for the once mighty Real Madrid.

His name was Florentino Perez and right now he looks at games from the comfort of a rocking chair.

Yorke's effectiveness was in his simplicity. Lets not take away from the fact that it was Manchester United they were playing, hence their midfield would always be under pressure give the significant superiority in positioning, athleticism, skill etc.. So yes the players who received the pass were under pressure but, that ent have nothing to do with the quality of ball they was getting from Yorke. Also many times I saw where they coulda just knock a simple ball back for Yorke, instead they hoof it aimlessly up the line.

All in all is shithounds de man was playing with. If we had take today's-game Yorke and slap him into the Man United midfield we all woulda be screaming about how composed de man look.. But when he lateral pass going to a Rob Wallace/McShane/Leadbitter who ent have the requisite skill to know what to do with it, what yuh expect..

Yorke ent Jesus, he cyah turn water into wine...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: saga pinto on September 01, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).

Etuhu who the F**k is he what team he does play for,not sunderland.......
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Midknight on September 01, 2007, 03:48:28 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).

Etuhu who the F**k is he what team he does play for,not sunderland.......

hoss. do some research before you post and let people like yuh nah...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 04:07:56 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:

tek win??

wasn't no competition yuh talk a pack ah ass there....

 :rotfl: :rotfl: you know we ppl from d caribbean car hide
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Quags on September 01, 2007, 04:10:08 PM
me ein t if anybody say this .But the goal score as soon as jones come of ,he mighta get to that ball first .
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: freakazoid on September 01, 2007, 04:17:41 PM
manu looked toothless without saha........well with ronaldo and saha back in the squad think teams should get frighten again. manu just lucky they n face one of d big clubs during this period
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Tallman on September 01, 2007, 04:24:20 PM
BBC post-game interview with Yorke (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/116000/nb/116606_16x9_nb.asx)
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2007, 04:40:46 PM
me ein t if anybody say this .But the goal score as soon as jones come of ,he mighta get to that ball first .
And de man that replace him was supposed to be marking Saha and duck away from de ball instead.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: kicker on September 01, 2007, 04:42:34 PM
BBC post-game interview with Yorke (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/116000/nb/116606_16x9_nb.asx)

Thanks Tallman....very nice interview
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Jahyouth on September 01, 2007, 04:50:41 PM
Dwight sounding Trini!!!!!!!   
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Dutty on September 01, 2007, 05:03:04 PM
Dwight sounding Trini!!!!!!!   

Ent?

mus de lil time with de squad in germany last year that 'de-britishize' he accent

For ah man who say he now learnin he midfield role,,He play ah tight game today tho
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: SUPA on September 01, 2007, 06:05:53 PM
I now see why it have so much bachannal on this site.

The commentator clearly stated that both carlos edwards and dean whitehead are key performers for Sunderland that are missing.

He then went on to say that Whitehead's injury is worse off than first thought.  He said that it was initially thought to be a six week lay off but now he will be out for up to six months.

How carlos name get call in dat?

Allyuh fellas ent easy atall.......

ah love it!!

On another note, Sunderland in ah real mess.....Lard fadder!! but I will still support them.

They need a creative midfielder really really badly.......someone who can be the link between the midfield and the forwards.......
The keeper real good, the goal was ah hard luck.

Kenwyne was king jumping jack today......but he fought hard.

ah love it!!


Latapy, Latapy, Latapy. He still have at least ah good year or 2 years left in his legs still. De man still putting de hurt on some young lil youths in de SPL. At least if dey sign him in January, he might save dem from ah may be demotion. This is not ah joke people, ah dead serious  8). HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: SUPA on September 01, 2007, 06:11:21 PM
sunderland need ah creative midfielder otherwise dem and derby will be liming together this season..their midfield is only packed with ball winners..etuhu probably their most creative player (yorke is actually but his role is the same as his WC role).

Etuhu who the F**k is he what team he does play for,not sunderland.......

  :rotfl: Damn Saga, ah doh know yuh ruff like dat, waw  :o. Like dey vex yuh today boss. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: supporter on September 01, 2007, 06:13:53 PM
BBC post-game interview with Yorke (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/116000/nb/116606_16x9_nb.asx)

thanks tallest
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2007, 06:20:38 PM
alyuh still bitching about this loss  :o  :)  :devil: , beaten by a better team, York play like a boss, jones play good but needed more ball. big up to Saha come back from injury and score  :beermug:. Sunderland lucky ronaldo and rooney was injured or d scoreline might of been worse  :beermug: , just did not have enough possession and missing Carlos rel bad.

 Man utd foreeeeeevvvvvvvver  :devil:  :beermug: Hard luck Mango!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: trinbago on September 01, 2007, 07:10:27 PM
Keane's Comments

When you lose 1-0 it's disappointing, especially when it comes from a set-piece, but that's the Premier League for you. One lapse in concentration and you concede a goal.

It's disappointing but I'm relatively pleased with the players' efforts and performance levels.

It would have been nice if we could have tested their keeper a bit more. We looked okay just before we conceded. We had had a warning a few minutes before from a corner and we got away with it, but not second time around.

There was no doubt in my mind that there would be a reaction. The players did well, they seemed to enjoy it.

Now we've got to produce that kind of performance in every game, not just in the big games and at the big stadiums. If we play at that level, we'll be fine for the rest of the season.

We've had a disruptive week. One or two players are injured and it meant people had to play out of position.

The players deserve extra plaudits, because one or two were playing out of position, and we had two making their debuts.

That considered, I'm relatively happy. But I've got to say it's difficult to be positive straight after a game when you have lost.

The the debutants did very well. I would have liked us to get more support to Kenwyne Jones, but it's easier said than done when you are playing Man United at Old Trafford.

Yorkie played very well - all the players gave it their all and it's all you ask for.


It would have been nice to have more quality going forward. ??? It was not to be and we look forward to Reading.

It's hard when you have lost. I'm grateful for the reception I got but I was focused on trying to win a football match.

Four points from five games - I would like to have a few more but we've had a difficult start. When you have Liverpool and Man United back-to-back, it's tough.

I'm more than confident that we will be fine. We'll have one or two lads back and we can get them training.

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 01, 2007, 07:13:31 PM
me ein t if anybody say this .But the goal score as soon as jones come of ,he mighta get to that ball first .
And de man that replace him was supposed to be marking Saha and duck away from de ball instead.
yeah is to give dem Man Boo peeps a false sense of security  :devil: ...de season young
watch Sunderland go wake up jez now ;)


The the debutants did very well. I would have liked us to get more support to Kenwyne Jones, but it's easier said than done when you are playing Man United at Old Trafford.

Yorkie played very well - all the players gave it their all and it's all you ask for.


It would have been nice to have more quality going forward. ???
I think these are one and the same comment
i think what he is saying is that the quality has to go forward to support the forwards like KJ. jmho
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: davidephraim on September 01, 2007, 08:12:30 PM

Dwight was good doing what he does.  The only thing I ask myself is.....what is that exactly?  What is his role in the team?  Dwight sits just in front of the defence.  He's not a tackler or ball winner a la Makelele, more of a "make myself available and play a simple pass" kind of player now.  He has shown very little creativity i.e. passes putting pressure on the opposition defence.  So if he's neither defensive or creative or even attacking midfielder, so what's his role?  Midfield organizer maybe?  Just a little puzzled.  I mean...he always looks nice and composed on the ball etc but I just wondering how effective his role is on this team.  I not tryin to put down Dwight eh....I jes a lil puzzled re: this position and what it supposed to achieve.

I was wondering if I was the only one who notice that...

A holding midfielder I guess ?

Trust me....I see de same thing. De man only make about 2 mistakes, BUT, to me too often he slow down the forward motion of the team, and way too often, HIS PLAY RESULTED IN PRESSURE ON THE DEFENDERS, OR SOMEONE WHO HE PLAY A SLOW BALL TO.

Ah mean, allyuh understand me, the man just passing to the next nearest man, never forward only sideways, and at the slightest hint of pressure, backwards to the defence, and then he not supporting the pass he just made so he not involved in any one/twos, and the pass he making to the next man slow, slow slow, so the same pressure he was under the man he pass to under that same pressure too. Me eh sure if that is controlling midfield tempo. That is more like interrupting momentum. It just seems to me like he at odds with the rest of the team play.

But he eh really make any mistakes so I suppose........

Personally I woulda prefer more conviction going forward in that position.

A once great and very powerful man in football echoed your sentiments regarding a certain player by the name of Claude Makalele.

He said, "He's useless, he's not skillfull, he can't head the ball or pass the ball more than 10 yards".

This ushered in a great period of demise for the once mighty Real Madrid.

His name was Florentino Perez and right now he looks at games from the comfort of a rocking chair.

Yorke's effectiveness was in his simplicity. Lets not take away from the fact that it was Manchester United they were playing, hence their midfield would always be under pressure give the significant superiority in positioning, athleticism, skill etc.. So yes the players who received the pass were under pressure but, that ent have nothing to do with the quality of ball they was getting from Yorke. Also many times I saw where they coulda just knock a simple ball back for Yorke, instead they hoof it aimlessly up the line.

All in all is shithounds de man was playing with. If we had take today's-game Yorke and slap him into the Man United midfield we all woulda be screaming about how composed de man look.. But when he lateral pass going to a Rob Wallace/McShane/Leadbitter who ent have the requisite skill to know what to do with it, what yuh expect..

Yorke ent Jesus, he cyah turn water into wine...

Omar, ah think yuh on like corn on dis one. Ah cya say nothing else dat you ent already say. and if we add Roy Keane interview, he too echos your sentiments.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: berris on September 01, 2007, 08:58:13 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
but
Palos not just you, I also hah to  :rotfl:  ..Pirlo is one ah de best creative midfielders in de game ,he know how to deliever dah killer ball to de strikers ..but when ah see de Magician on dah list, a hah to  :rotfl: :rotfl: twice ...yuh rite tuh tell de man tek win  !!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Deeks on September 01, 2007, 08:59:51 PM
I saw the game. First all KJ played well. He was tightly marked by the two stoppers. But he held is own. They did not push him off the ball. It just that as soon as he had the ball, two and 3 men on him. He was by himself most of the time. At times he was able to get himself out of trouble with quick passes out to York, Chopra and the other African dude. But to be honest Sunderland needs much more to crack opposing defences. Too much air ball. 60% of the ball KJ got was in the air or with his back to the defence. How is going to score goals that way. They need better fire power coming from behind. A good creative mid who can bring the ball with confidence. But we know those players are already snapped by the richer clubs.

This is going to be the way Manu will be playing for the whole season. Every team that goes to Old Trafford will be ready for Man U. They will bring their A game. Man U will have to break down walled defences for the the whole season. Most teams will be on the defensive and then try to hit United on the counter attack. It will be interesting to see. The season is still young.

TT at least has options at the striker's position for the WC. KJ, Stern, Scotland, Sealey, Roberts. Not bad.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: berris on September 01, 2007, 09:00:22 PM
alyuh still bitching about this loss  :o  :)  :devil: , beaten by a better team, York play like a boss, jones play good but needed more ball. big up to Saha come back from injury and score  :beermug:. Sunderland lucky ronaldo and rooney was injured or d scoreline might of been worse  :beermug: , just did not have enough possession and missing Carlos rel bad.

 Man utd foreeeeeevvvvvvvver  :devil:  :beermug: Hard luck Mango!

  ENT !!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 02, 2007, 08:13:40 AM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
but
Palos not just you, I also hah to  :rotfl:  ..Pirlo is one ah de best creative midfielders in de game ,he know how to deliever dah killer ball to de strikers ..but when ah see de Magician on dah list, a hah to  :rotfl: :rotfl: twice ...yuh rite tuh tell de man tek win  !!

Ok..

I could stand corrected if I you could show me where i was wrong..

So tell me if the role Latapy was playing at Porto entailed tackling/enforcing and advancing into the PK box on a consistent basis..

Also show me where Pirlo is a midfield enforcer, or if he advances into the PK box on a regular basis when playing for Milan..


Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: berris on September 02, 2007, 07:01:32 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
but
Palos not just you, I also hah to  :rotfl:  ..Pirlo is one ah de best creative midfielders in de game ,he know how to deliever dah killer ball to de strikers ..but when ah see de Magician on dah list, a hah to  :rotfl: :rotfl: twice ...yuh rite tuh tell de man tek win  !!

Ok..

I could stand corrected if I you could show me where i was wrong..

So tell me if the role Latapy was playing at Porto entailed tackling/enforcing and advancing into the PK box on a consistent basis..

Also show me where Pirlo is a midfield enforcer, or if he advances into the PK box on a regular basis when playing for Milan..



 

Boss...Latas role on de pitch,with any team he ever play for, is play-maker and when he has de opportunity,score.Pirlo role is de same thing.these players game is all about creating for the rest ah de players to score.There are not holding midfielders ala Makelele so yes they do advance in the box.Fabergas always in de box,look wey he score from today and he,Latas and Pirlo all play de same role on de pitch,to create and score.Dwight role was not to create,doh get meh wrong I find he play a very good game and show his class but his role ,IMO,does not compare to the role Latas and Pirlo play and as for Latas that goes for any team he ever play for...yuh think dey call him de magician becuz he's ah 'holdinig midfielder..eh eh  :beermug:

p.s Dwight role was not 'useless', is just that his role wasn't highlighted becuz he had no creative midfilders around him,unlike Makelele who surrounded by play makers so his role stands out.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: berris on September 02, 2007, 08:35:32 PM
[quote author=omarldinho link=topic=30578.msg349676#msg349676
Yorke's effectiveness was in his simplicity. Lets not take away from the fact that it was Manchester United they were playing, hence their midfield would always be under pressure give the significant superiority in positioning, athleticism, skill etc.. So yes the players who received the pass were under pressure but, that ent have nothing to do with the quality of ball they was getting from Yorke. Also many times I saw where they coulda just knock a simple ball back for Yorke, instead they hoof it aimlessly up the line.

All in all is shithounds de man was playing with. If we had take today's-game Yorke and slap him into the Man United midfield we all woulda be screaming about how composed de man look.. But when he lateral pass going to a Rob Wallace/McShane/Leadbitter who ent have the requisite skill to know what to do with it, what yuh expect..
Yorke ent Jesus, he cyah turn water into wine...
Quote


Agreed !!! As ah say before, he have shit snakes around him in de middle so his holding role look questioned.Alll in all I find he played very well.Ppl forgetting is Man U dey was up against not Luton ah mean Derby  ;D[/quote]
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 02, 2007, 09:33:34 PM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
but
Palos not just you, I also hah to  :rotfl:  ..Pirlo is one ah de best creative midfielders in de game ,he know how to deliever dah killer ball to de strikers ..but when ah see de Magician on dah list, a hah to  :rotfl: :rotfl: twice ...yuh rite tuh tell de man tek win  !!

Ok..

I could stand corrected if I you could show me where i was wrong..

So tell me if the role Latapy was playing at Porto entailed tackling/enforcing and advancing into the PK box on a consistent basis..

Also show me where Pirlo is a midfield enforcer, or if he advances into the PK box on a regular basis when playing for Milan..



 

Boss...Latas role on de pitch,with any team he ever play for, is play-maker and when he has de opportunity,score.Pirlo role is de same thing.these players game is all about creating for the rest ah de players to score.There are not holding midfielders ala Makelele so yes they do advance in the box.Fabergas always in de box,look wey he score from today and he,Latas and Pirlo all play de same role on de pitch,to create and score.Dwight role was not to create,doh get meh wrong I find he play a very good game and show his class but his role ,IMO,does not compare to the role Latas and Pirlo play and as for Latas that goes for any team he ever play for...yuh think dey call him de magician becuz he's ah 'holdinig midfielder..eh eh  :beermug:

p.s Dwight role was not 'useless', is just that his role wasn't highlighted becuz he had no creative midfilders around him,unlike Makelele who surrounded by play makers so his role stands out.  :beermug:

berris, i agree latas was a playmaker, but I specifically said Latapy in his role at Porto..  The Porto games I watch back in them days his game was restricted to a withdrawn midfield role just collect and knock off the simple pass.. it kinda stifle his creativity and i always felt he shoulda been playing more advanced, but they had another playmaker playing there (i want to say his name was rui barros but i really cyah remember to be honest)

If you go back and check my post I was never disputing creativity.. all i said was that a holding midfielder 1. does not need to be an enforcer/tackler and 2. does not make big advances in de pk box..  I cited Pirlo because he revolutionized the holding role at AC in that he controlled the midfield via positioning and passing, and yuh rarely ever see him pelting any tackles.. Yes he's creative but he does his damage from outside the PK box, and I was addressing what an earlier poster said about Yorke, implying that to play in that position he hadda show a physical presence...
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 02, 2007, 09:53:42 PM
This game made me really see how important a play making midfielder is to a team. Sunderland has no one in the middle beside Yorke to really control the attack. As a result KJ looked lost or maybe he was either not match fit or just was ah waste of time or a bad signing.  KJ did not take advantage of his size against those Man-U defenders. He should have demanded that the ball be played to his feet more than in the air. Why every time he control or gained possession he played the ball backwards? I’m guessing it was his frist time on the big stage etc etc. I’ll keep my eyes on him. Hopefully he’ll do better next time.

 Alyuh talking about Latas??? Tha man is ah boss yes even in he old age…I’m now questioning Bennie decisions to bench that man at the WC games. He was ah boss before, during and after the WC. Bennie yuh geh ah low score on tha one. Word Up!
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 03, 2007, 04:39:14 AM
Na na na naa hey hey hey LOUIS SAHA!!!!!!!!

What a machine..when this guy is fit he is a goal scoring genius..stay fit son stay fit..please! llol

As you know i was there..Yorkie was outstanding and so was Jones in the air..his first touch was abit heavy but he gave Vida a hell of a time.. better things to come for sure..but not against our Serbian Steel..hell no

We were the better team 75% possesion...Sunderland huff and puff a lil but our quality was better.. we took our foot off the pedal after we scored as well

Now... thank you Aston Villa.. i love you now(untill we play u of course) lol

Arsenal and Liverpool... enjoy your tme at the top.. i expect the table to shift very soon..arsenal= inconsistent..liverpool=shite

We have our guns back for our next game(Rooney and Ronaldo) and our heart(Neville)

time to kick back and enjoy Utd fans...you aint see nothing yet
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Big Magician on September 03, 2007, 08:58:10 AM
Mr Small Mag....you sounding like you eh want to come back home nah
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: berris on September 03, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
Allyuh really feel a defensive mid supposed to tackle and enforce??

Then how do you explain Pirlo??

What does Tugay do at Blackburn?

What does Carrick do at Man Utd??

Or what was Latapy doing at Porto?

All it is really is a midfielder playing a withdrawn role who responsibility is to make the simple passes on the offensive end... All them players I call there don't make big advances into the box, they control the game from a withdrawn midfield role.. Don't act like de man useless..

 ??? :o  LOL!  I have to laugh.  Tek win padnah!  ;D ;D  :beermug:
but
Palos not just you, I also hah to  :rotfl:  ..Pirlo is one ah de best creative midfielders in de game ,he know how to deliever dah killer ball to de strikers ..but when ah see de Magician on dah list, a hah to  :rotfl: :rotfl: twice ...yuh rite tuh tell de man tek win  !!

Ok..

I could stand corrected if I you could show me where i was wrong..

So tell me if the role Latapy was playing at Porto entailed tackling/enforcing and advancing into the PK box on a consistent basis..

Also show me where Pirlo is a midfield enforcer, or if he advances into the PK box on a regular basis when playing for Milan..



 

Boss...Latas role on de pitch,with any team he ever play for, is play-maker and when he has de opportunity,score.Pirlo role is de same thing.these players game is all about creating for the rest ah de players to score.There are not holding midfielders ala Makelele so yes they do advance in the box.Fabergas always in de box,look wey he score from today and he,Latas and Pirlo all play de same role on de pitch,to create and score.Dwight role was not to create,doh get meh wrong I find he play a very good game and show his class but his role ,IMO,does not compare to the role Latas and Pirlo play and as for Latas that goes for any team he ever play for...yuh think dey call him de magician becuz he's ah 'holdinig midfielder..eh eh  :beermug:

p.s Dwight role was not 'useless', is just that his role wasn't highlighted becuz he had no creative midfilders around him,unlike Makelele who surrounded by play makers so his role stands out.  :beermug:

berris, i agree latas was a playmaker, but I specifically said Latapy in his role at Porto..  The Porto games I watch back in them days his game was restricted to a withdrawn midfield role just collect and knock off the simple pass.. it kinda stifle his creativity and i always felt he shoulda been playing more advanced, but they had another playmaker playing there (i want to say his name was rui barros but i really cyah remember to be honest)

If you go back and check my post I was never disputing creativity.. all i said was that a holding midfielder 1. does not need to be an enforcer/tackler and 2. does not make big advances in de pk box..  I cited Pirlo because he revolutionized the holding role at AC in that he controlled the midfield via positioning and passing, and yuh rarely ever see him pelting any tackles.. Yes he's creative but he does his damage from outside the PK box, and I was addressing what an earlier poster said about Yorke, implying that to play in that position he hadda show a physical presence...

A rite boss tek win  ...nah nah ah just playiing  ;D I hear yuh clearly and yuh right Dwight role was never to show any 'physical presence' and I cyar see Keane even expecting him to be pelting blade.Yuh make ah valid point when yuh say 'If we had take today's-game Yorke and slap him into the Man United midfield we all woulda be screaming about how composed de man look'  becuz ..' when he lateral pass going to a Rob Wallace/McShane/Leadbitter who ent have the requisite skill to know what to do with it, what yuh expect.'
We have to disagree on Latas role at Porto ,I cud be wrong but my recollection, Latas was always playmaking and looking to score I doh really remember him as a holding midfielder. :beermug:
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: SUPA on September 03, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
This game made me really see how important a play making midfielder is to a team. Sunderland has no one in the middle beside Yorke to really control the attack. As a result KJ looked lost or maybe he was either not match fit or just was ah waste of time or a bad signing.  KJ did not take advantage of his size against those Man-U defenders. He should have demanded that the ball be played to his feet more than in the air. Why every time he control or gained possession he played the ball backwards? I’m guessing it was his frist time on the big stage etc etc. I’ll keep my eyes on him. Hopefully he’ll do better next time.

 Alyuh talking about Latas??? Tha man is ah boss yes even in he old age…I’m now questioning Bennie decisions to bench that man at the WC games. He was ah boss before, during and after the WC. Bennie yuh geh ah low score on tha one. Word Up!


Wehitis, how on earth dat cud cross yuh mind boss, tuh say some thing like dat. KJ obviously will take a few games, tuh get adjusted tuh his new team mates (beside de T&T players) and fuh dem tuh know exactly where tuh feed him de ball. Even if he score in his next game, I expect de youth tuh get better and more dangerous in de EPL. Even if ah have tuh wait until next season, ah will be patient and wait tuh see KJ being feared by defenders in de EPL. Remember de breddah is only 22 yrs old, so cool nah man and just work wid him. Think about dis fuh ah minute, Drogba is one of de most dangerous or de most dangerous striker in de EPL, okay. How many seasons it took him tuh settle in de EPL and show dat he is a world class striker?  :beermug: HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: just cool on September 03, 2007, 07:08:37 PM
This game made me really see how important a play making midfielder is to a team. Sunderland has no one in the middle beside Yorke to really control the attack. As a result KJ looked lost or maybe he was either not match fit or just was ah waste of time or a bad signing.  KJ did not take advantage of his size against those Man-U defenders. He should have demanded that the ball be played to his feet more than in the air. Why every time he control or gained possession he played the ball backwards? I’m guessing it was his frist time on the big stage etc etc. I’ll keep my eyes on him. Hopefully he’ll do better next time.

 Alyuh talking about Latas??? Tha man is ah boss yes even in he old age…I’m now questioning Bennie decisions to bench that man at the WC games. He was ah boss before, during and after the WC. Bennie yuh geh ah low score on tha one. Word Up!


Wehitis, how on earth dat cud cross yuh mind boss, tuh say some thing like dat. KJ obviously will take a few games, tuh get adjusted tuh his new team mates (beside de T&T players) and fuh dem tuh know exactly where tuh feed him de ball. Even if he score in his next game, I expect de youth tuh get better and more dangerous in de EPL. Even if ah have tuh wait until next season, ah will be patient and wait tuh see KJ being feared by defenders in de EPL. Remember de breddah is only 22 yrs old, so cool nah man and just work wid him. Think about dis fuh ah minute, Drogba is one of de most dangerous or de most dangerous striker in de EPL, okay. How many seasons it took him tuh settle in de EPL and show dat he is a world class striker? :beermug: HIGHLY BLESSED.
Eh supa i totally agree with your assesment. KJ played his first EPL game and men wanted him to perform like ronaldo against ah team like manU the europian giants, that's unrealistic big time to say the least. some fellas does really talk some outer timmin talk on here yes boss.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: dinho on September 03, 2007, 07:23:27 PM
This game made me really see how important a play making midfielder is to a team. Sunderland has no one in the middle beside Yorke to really control the attack. As a result KJ looked lost or maybe he was either not match fit or just was ah waste of time or a bad signing.  KJ did not take advantage of his size against those Man-U defenders. He should have demanded that the ball be played to his feet more than in the air. Why every time he control or gained possession he played the ball backwards? I’m guessing it was his frist time on the big stage etc etc. I’ll keep my eyes on him. Hopefully he’ll do better next time.

 Alyuh talking about Latas??? Tha man is ah boss yes even in he old age…I’m now questioning Bennie decisions to bench that man at the WC games. He was ah boss before, during and after the WC. Bennie yuh geh ah low score on tha one. Word Up!


Wehitis, how on earth dat cud cross yuh mind boss, tuh say some thing like dat. KJ obviously will take a few games, tuh get adjusted tuh his new team mates (beside de T&T players) and fuh dem tuh know exactly where tuh feed him de ball. Even if he score in his next game, I expect de youth tuh get better and more dangerous in de EPL. Even if ah have tuh wait until next season, ah will be patient and wait tuh see KJ being feared by defenders in de EPL. Remember de breddah is only 22 yrs old, so cool nah man and just work wid him. Think about dis fuh ah minute, Drogba is one of de most dangerous or de most dangerous striker in de EPL, okay. How many seasons it took him tuh settle in de EPL and show dat he is a world class striker?  :beermug: HIGHLY BLESSED.


not sure what game you was watching but KJ was winning the aerial battles in the first half even though he was isolated up front... And is Ferdinand and Vidic he playing against..  I eh know bout you nuh but if it was my very first game of the whole season, first time playing with a new team, and i get throw in at the very deep end, if i could be such a handful for vidic/ferdinand, i would be elated with my performance..

Furthermore even his own boss Keane said he was happy with his contribution..

Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: WestCoast on September 03, 2007, 08:09:15 PM
not sure what game you was watching but KJ was winning the aerial battles in the first half even though he was isolated up front... And is Ferdinand and Vidic he playing against..  I eh know bout you nuh but if it was my very first game of the whole season, first time playing with a new team, and i get throw in at the very deep end, if i could be such a handful for vidic/ferdinand, i would be elated with my performance..

Furthermore even his own boss Keane said he was happy with his contribution..
Omarldnho,
I really ent know what people want from some footballers eh

KJ did very well and as Keane said that Sunderland needed to do better to give more support up front.

The the debutants did very well. I would have liked us to get more support to Kenwyne Jones, but it's easier said than done when you are playing Man United at Old Trafford.

Yorkie played very well - all the players gave it their all and it's all you ask for.


It would have been nice to have more quality going forward.
Title: Re: Manchester United vs Sunderland FC
Post by: Marcos on September 04, 2007, 07:09:18 AM
I find ppl does real throw around this term "genius" too easily boy.
Next ting everybody is a "genius" or "great". Filho is a man like to say everybody is "superb". We'll soon run out of superlatives.

What a machine..when this guy is fit he is a goal scoring genius..
Title: Manchester United In Long Huntelaar Queue
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 06, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Manchester United have become the latest club to reveal their interest in Ajax’s striking sensation Klaas Jan Huntelaar, according to the News of the World.

Huntelaar, 24, is currently one of the hottest transfer targets in Europe, having already scored 30 goals this season and having been the top scorer in the Eredivise last season with a staggering 33 goals in 31 matches.

The paper claims that Huntelaar is planning talks with boss Marco van Basten as he seeks a move away from the Amsterdam club, with the fee thought to be in the region of £18 million.

Real Madrid had been thought to be the favourites to lure him away after coach Bernd Schuster revealed his interest in the Dutchman recently.

However there has been interest in the striker all over the continent with both Chelsea and Milan rumoured to be after the Dutchman, and Manchester United have also reactivated their interest.

Although United haven’t struggled for goals this season they have been a little short of strikers ever since Ruud van Nistelrooy was sold to Real Madrid in 2006.

Whilst Wayne Rooney is an automatic choice up front, his partner often isn’t and United have become heavily reliant on Cristiano Ronaldo’s goals this season.

Louis Saha has been injured far too frequently for manager Sir Alex Ferguson’s liking and whilst Carlos Tevez has proved a shrewd buy he isn’t the goal-getter that van Nistelrooy was, and Ferguson is now hoping Huntelaar will be.

Title: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: capodetutticapi on December 12, 2008, 09:18:33 AM
live on FSC @ 12:30 pm tomorrow.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: acb on December 12, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
it have more important things to do .... like put up curtains.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: capodetutticapi on December 12, 2008, 09:26:57 AM
it have more important things to do .... like put up curtains.
yuh soundin like ah man who does have to wash he wife panty,iron clothes and cook  or else is pressure fuh u. ;D
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 12, 2008, 09:32:48 AM
it have more important things to do .... like put up curtains.
yuh soundin like ah man who does have to wash he wife panty,iron clothes and cook  or else is pressure fuh u. ;D

you give him too much respect there...he is a rent boy therefore he'll be washing his boyfriends jockstrap
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: kicker on December 12, 2008, 10:33:45 AM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....

Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Filho on December 12, 2008, 10:51:42 AM
Go Tottenham!
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: dinho on December 12, 2008, 10:53:36 AM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....



You mean the undercard to....

- Real v Barca
- Juve v Milan
- Sevilla v Villareal
- Stuttgart v Bayern Munich

I never thought the day would come when i would say this... and first let me extend some hearty apologies to gunnerstunner for all de ole talk...

But...

We need a MAN UTD FOREVER thread!!

Ah mean... Allyuh cyah be for real starting thread for Man Utd against side like Aalborg, Stoke and West Brom???
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Filho on December 12, 2008, 10:57:40 AM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....



You mean the undercard to....

- Real v Barca
- Juve v Milan
- Sevilla v Villareal
- Stuttgart v Bayern Munich

I never thought the day would come when i would say this... and first let me extend some hearty apologies to gunnerstunner for all de ole talk...

But...

We need a MAN UTD FOREVER thread!!

Ah mean... Allyuh cyah be for real starting thread for Man Utd against side like Aalborg, Stoke and West Brom???

Go Barca! - Love Barca
Go Milan! - Like Milan
Go Sevilla! - Love Barca and Villareal in 2nd.
Go Stuttgart! - Could care less but might as well back de newbies at Hoffenheim and Bayern is their main threat
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: jai john on December 12, 2008, 12:19:10 PM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....



You mean the undercard to....

- Real v Barca
- Juve v Milan
- Sevilla v Villareal
- Stuttgart v Bayern Munich

I never thought the day would come when i would say this... and first let me extend some hearty apologies to gunnerstunner for all de ole talk...

But...

We need a MAN UTD FOREVER thread!!

Ah mean... Allyuh cyah be for real starting thread for Man Utd against side like Aalborg, Stoke and West Brom???

Go Barca! - Love Barca
Go Milan! - Like Milan
Go Sevilla! - Love Barca and Villareal in 2nd.
Go Stuttgart! - Could care less but might as well back de newbies at Hoffenheim and Bayern is their main threat

villareal in second ?  ...doh feel ah eh see you trying to ignore de submarine ...we looking at winning thank you !!!
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Filho on December 12, 2008, 12:29:13 PM

Go Barca! - Love Barca
Go Milan! - Like Milan
Go Sevilla! - Love Barca and Villareal in 2nd.
Go Stuttgart! - Could care less but might as well back de newbies at Hoffenheim and Bayern is their main threat

villareal in second ?  ...doh feel ah eh see you trying to ignore de submarine ...we looking at winning thank you !!!

Jai. Let me translate:

Go Sevilla = I want Sevilla to beat Villareal
Love Barca and Vilalreal in 2nd = I want Sevilla to beat Villareal, cuz Barca is my team and Villareal is currently in 2nd place. A win for Sevilla helps keep the distance between Barca and Villareal.

Not ignoring Villareal, and is not like I doh like them. If anything..I showing respect for their title credentials
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2008, 08:34:16 AM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....



You mean the undercard to....

- Real v Barca
- Juve v Milan
- Sevilla v Villareal
- Stuttgart v Bayern Munich

I never thought the day would come when i would say this... and first let me extend some hearty apologies to gunnerstunner for all de ole talk...

But...

We need a MAN UTD FOREVER thread!!

Ah mean... Allyuh cyah be for real starting thread for Man Utd against side like Aalborg, Stoke and West Brom???


Only sh!te sides have ' forever threads'!  :devil:
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: morvant on December 13, 2008, 08:38:11 AM
The under card fight for the main event in Spain later that day.

Should be a good match....



You mean the undercard to....

- Real v Barca
- Juve v Milan
- Sevilla v Villareal
- Stuttgart v Bayern Munich

I never thought the day would come when i would say this... and first let me extend some hearty apologies to gunnerstunner for all de ole talk...

But...

We need a MAN UTD FOREVER thread!!

Ah mean... Allyuh cyah be for real starting thread for Man Utd against side like Aalborg, Stoke and West Brom???

long time now ah saying this. every week is another shyt thread bout this side :flamethrower:
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: elan on December 13, 2008, 01:08:12 PM
Ah check the thread to see the score and what happening in the game, and again no posts. So I guess Man United under real pressure. I expecting one of these, "We played shyte, did not took our chances. Anyway still undefeated. On to Joe Public game mid week"  ::)
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Touches on December 13, 2008, 01:10:45 PM
Steups....60th minute and FLOW 4ks up again.

WHen yuh call dem all circuits are busy.

How the game going...Huddlestone leggo another bullet on van der sar yet?
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: PIMP on December 13, 2008, 01:17:54 PM
Flow is the worse....game was going real good...
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Jah Gol on December 13, 2008, 01:20:13 PM
Steups....60th minute and FLOW 4ks up again.

WHen yuh call dem all circuits are busy.

How the game going...Huddlestone leggo another bullet on van der sar yet?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=26408&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=26408&part=sports)
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: kicker on December 13, 2008, 01:34:39 PM
0-0

Manchester U. missed Rooney....

Tottenham needs a world class striker.... Pavlyuchenko still a bit off beat.

Both G.keepers were very good today.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: RedDevils on December 13, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
We really missed Rooney today,

this CWC is perfect for Rooney and Tevez to get back intouch with each other, bring Berbatov off de bench to play de poacher role, its not working as we would like, how much more games does he need ? Ronaldo was poor to, his first touch and passing was all poor. we got a point and kept a clean sheet so i guess that was good. Defence played well, Rafael again showed where he is the starting RB, he just needs to work on timing his tackles.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2008, 03:43:36 PM
We really missed Rooney today,

this CWC is perfect for Rooney and Tevez to get back intouch with each other, bring Berbatov off de bench to play de poacher role, its not working as we would like, how much more games does he need ? Ronaldo was poor to, his first touch and passing was all poor. we got a point and kept a clean sheet so i guess that was good. Defence played well, Rafael again showed where he is the starting RB, he just needs to work on timing his tackles.


Ronaldo playin this season like he mailin it in and half arse, he also playing like he always lookin for a reason to not finish a match. For me the team this year is lacking drive from the midfield, they miss Hargo. It would have been nice if Anderson could have won the job over Fletcher and play like he took the next step.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2008, 04:01:53 PM
Steups....60th minute and FLOW 4ks up again.

WHen yuh call dem all circuits are busy.

How the game going...Huddlestone leggo another bullet on van der sar yet?


Yeah... but poor Pavlyuchenko get in de way and loss he wind, lol
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: RedDevils on December 13, 2008, 04:02:56 PM
We really missed Rooney today,

this CWC is perfect for Rooney and Tevez to get back intouch with each other, bring Berbatov off de bench to play de poacher role, its not working as we would like, how much more games does he need ? Ronaldo was poor to, his first touch and passing was all poor. we got a point and kept a clean sheet so i guess that was good. Defence played well, Rafael again showed where he is the starting RB, he just needs to work on timing his tackles.


Ronaldo playin this season like he mailin it in and half arse, he also playing like he always lookin for a reason to not finish a match. For me the team this year is lacking drive from the midfield, they miss Hargo. It would have been nice if Anderson could have won the job over Fletcher and play like he took the next step.




He needs to sit on the bench and watch a few games, let Nani play. Yeah we're missing Hargo but Scholsey is coming back to match fitness, thats a plus. i notice Ando doesnt play well with Carrick along side him and Fergie likes Carrick so thats why Fletch is starting.
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2008, 04:12:34 PM
We really missed Rooney today,

this CWC is perfect for Rooney and Tevez to get back intouch with each other, bring Berbatov off de bench to play de poacher role, its not working as we would like, how much more games does he need ? Ronaldo was poor to, his first touch and passing was all poor. we got a point and kept a clean sheet so i guess that was good. Defence played well, Rafael again showed where he is the starting RB, he just needs to work on timing his tackles.


Ronaldo playin this season like he mailin it in and half arse, he also playing like he always lookin for a reason to not finish a match. For me the team this year is lacking drive from the midfield, they miss Hargo. It would have been nice if Anderson could have won the job over Fletcher and play like he took the next step.




He needs to sit on the bench and watch a few games, let Nani play. Yeah we're missing Hargo but Scholsey is coming back to match fitness, thats a plus. i notice Ando doesnt play well with Carrick along side him and Fergie likes Carrick so thats why Fletch is starting.

I wish Fergurson would stop kissing his arse! I also sometimes get the feeling dey dos give him the impression he untouchable, no accountability for some of the antics he doing in the shirt. Some of the shit he does is an embarrassment to the shirt! Sickening!
Title: Re: manchester united v tottenham hotspur
Post by: elan on December 13, 2008, 06:29:41 PM
 :whistling:
Title: Southampton 0-3 Manchester United
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 04, 2009, 12:56:18 PM
Manchester United Coast Past Southampton
Manchester United coasted past Southampton in Sunday’s FA Cup Third Round tie at St Mary’s Stadium.

Danny Welbeck gave United the lead when he headed home from close-range (20) and it soon got worse for Southampton when Martin Paterson was sent off for a reckless challenge on Nemanja Vidic shortly before half-time.

Nani scored a controversial penalty (48) as the Red Devils assumed full control of the game and substitute Darron Gibson sealed the win with a powerful strike (81).

Team News

Olly Lancashire and Andrew Surman came in for Southampton as they made two changes from their drawn Championship clash against Reading.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson handed 18-year-old striker Danny Welbeck a start with Carlos Tevez, Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo not included in the starting line-up. Rio Ferdinand was also ruled out.

First Half

After a quiet opening fifteen minutes, the first chances of the game arrived. It was the hosts who threatened first when David McGoldrick broke from midfield and fed Andrew Surman, who flashed the ball across the face of Manchester United’s goal to force Jonny Evans into a smart clearance.

Southampton were on the back foot moments later when Nani combined well with Dimitar Berbatov at the edge of the Saints penalty box and forced home goalkeeper Kelvin Davies into a low save. Anderson then forced Davies into another save with a vicious long-range effort.

From the resulting corner, United took the lead. Republic of Ireland defender John O’Shea met Nani’s flighted delivery at pace but was denied a headed goal by the goalkeeper, who superbly tipped his effort on to the crossbar. However, the rebound fell straight to Welbeck, the teenager there waiting to pounce from just two yards out and hand the visitors a lead.

Chris Perry then did well to block a Berbatov shot after the Bulgaria striker was slipped through on goal by O’Shea before the ex-Wimbledon man again came to the rescue to deny Michael Carrick with a goal-saving challenge.

With the visitors threatening to run riot, disaster struck for Southampton. As Nemanja Vidic attempted to control a bouncing ball at the halfway line, Saints striker Matthew Paterson lunged in with studs raised and caught the Serbian high on the shin, deservedly earning himself a red card from referee Mike Riley.

In first half stoppage time, Saints ’keeper Davies was again forced into action, doing well to save Welbeck’s near post effort after Gary Neville fed Nani on the right-hand side.

Second Half

At the start of the second half it looked like it would take a minor miracle if Southampton were to rescue this Cup-tie and just three minutes after the interval the game was as good as over.

Lancashire conceded a free-kick right on the edge of the area, which Nani stepped up to take. His effort struck McGoldrick, who had his hand raised in the wall, and Riley pointed to the penalty spot. The Saints were adamant it has hit his head and not the raised arm, with initial replays proving inconclusive.

The Portuguese winger calmly stepped up and slotted United into a two-goal lead, sending the goalkeeper the wrong way.

Moments later Welbeck was superbly denied by Davies from 12 yards out after a sharp turn. As United dominated, Welbeck had another penalty claim turned down in the 51st minute when he was sandwiched between two Southampton defenders, as he looked set to pull the trigger.

Ryan Smith offered the home side some brief respite when he breezed past O’Shea and Evans, but struck wide at the crucial moment, and Surman had a shot saved before Carrick came close to scoring the visitors’ third goal.

Wayne Rooney was brought on from the substitutes’ bench for a run out in place of Welbeck and almost made an instant impact, but could only drag his shot wide of the far post after combining with Berbatov.

United were able to put the icing on the cake ten minutes from time when Rooney surged past the Southampton defence and cut the ball back for Darron Gibson, enjoying oceans of space, to smash his shot home.

Southampton will now return to the rigours of the Championship, while United move on to face Tottenham Hotspur in the Fourth Round after a comprehensive win.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on January 26, 2009, 06:09:56 PM
Manchester United Football Club



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The contents of this thread shall hereby include friendly conversation or heated debate about in-the-news topics, the Club, the Glazers, the Primma Donnas/Players, the Staff, the Prawn Sandwich eaters/Supporters, Transfer speculation/activity and any other news items that might have a bearing on the day-to-day operations of the Club, both on and off the field.
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Manchester United Trophy Cabinet

LeaguePremier League: 10
1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
First Division: 7
1907–08, 1910–11, 1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67
Second Division: 2
1935–36, 1974–75

Cups
FA Cup: 11
1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup: 2
1992, 2006
FA Charity/Community Shield: 16 (12 outright, 4 shared)
1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007 (* joint holders)

European
European Cup/UEFA Champions League: 3
1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1
1991
European Super Cup: 1
1991

International
Intercontinental Cup/World Club Championship: 1
1999

Doubles and Trebles
The Double (League and FA Cup): 3
1994, 1996, 1999 (as part of The Treble)
The European Double (League and European Cup): 2
1999 (as part of The Treble), 2008
The Treble (League, FA Cup and European Cup): 1
1999

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 26, 2009, 06:14:45 PM
wait you is a "LiverPuddle" or "ManBoo" supporter
how ya avatar does change so :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on January 26, 2009, 06:20:22 PM
So yeah - Tallman, Flex and Palos!!! All yuh quick to merge Barca threads but no Man U posts have been merged thus far.

Waiy to keep it fair and unbiased.

go Man U go!!

Why all yuh eh go to happypuppy.com and register www.manusocawarriors.net reroute all the traffic to that domain.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on January 26, 2009, 06:22:45 PM
So yeah - Tallman, Flex and Palos!!! All yuh quick to merge Barca threads but no Man U posts have been merged thus far.

Waiy to keep it fair and unbiased.

go Man U go!!

Why all yuh eh go to happypuppy.com and register www.manusocawarriors.net reroute all the traffic to that domain.


well they mustbe waiting for the next one to show up first so they could merge it :rotfl:
it probably go be something bitching bout all the injured players or fixture congestion  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 26, 2009, 06:23:10 PM
www.manusocawarriors.net
:devil:
you like ting eh ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on January 26, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
wait you is a "LiverPuddle" or "ManBoo" supporter
how ya avatar does change so :devil: :devil:
is technical difficulties
somehow meh wife decide to wash that jersey with the 'Sharp' logo and ah get stupid  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 26, 2009, 06:25:10 PM
Now allyuh go make small Mag vex.
Man U is officially jinxed, just like Chelsea, Arsenal and poor Bognor Regis Town FC.
Barca isn't jinxed though. Maybe it's just the word "Forever", sorry I mean "FOREVER!!!" that tips it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 26, 2009, 06:25:32 PM
Man f^ck off wit this shit! Real United fans need tuh boycott this thread! No need tuh to keep it going!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 26, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
wait you is a "LiverPuddle" or "ManBoo" supporter
how ya avatar does change so :devil: :devil:
is technical difficulties
somehow meh wife decide to wash that jersey with the 'Sharp' logo and ah get stupid  ;D
ok den if is ah #19 ah go ease ya up...buh jez fa today eh :devil:

 ;D ;D

Man f^ck off wit this shit!
cloned ??? :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 26, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
sigh lol  :D

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 26, 2009, 07:10:14 PM
Mods...delete this when i make the Utd Clubhouse... unbelievable how two cry babies can make a utd thread... unacceptable

edit...The Sretford End is alive... get rid of this shit thread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 26, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
here crybabies

look the official man utd thread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 26, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
UPDATE:

Team Information

Club Officials and Staff

Club officials

* Owner: Malcolm Glazer
* Honorary Life President: Martin Edwards

Manchester United Limited

* Joint Chairmen: Joel Glazer & Avram Glazer
* Chief Executive: David Gill
* Chief Operating Officer: Michael Bolingbroke
* Commercial Director: Richard Arnold
* Executive Director: Ed Woodward
* Non-Executive Directors: Bryan Glazer, Kevin Glazer, Edward Glazer & Darcie Glazer

Manchester United football club

* Directors: David Gill, Michael Edelson, Sir Bobby Charlton, Maurice Watkins
* Club Secretary: Ken Ramsden
* Assistant Club Secretary: Ken Merrett
* Global Ambassador: Bryan Robson

Coaching and Medical Staff

* Manager: Sir Alex Ferguson
* Assistant Managers: Mike Phelan & René Meulensteen
* First Team Coach: Mike Phelan
* Technical Skills Development Coach: René Meulensteen
* Goalkeeping Coach: Eric Steele
* Fitness Coach: Tony Strudwick
* Strength & Conditioning Coach: Mick Clegg
* Head of Sports Science: Dr. Richard Hawkins
* Reserve Team Manager: Ole Gunnar Solskjær
* Reserve Team Coach: Warren Joyce
* Chief Scout: Jim Lawlor
* Chief European Scout: Martin Ferguson
* Director of Youth Academy: Brian McClair
* Director of Youth Football: Jimmy Ryan
* Club Doctor: Dr. Steve McNally
* Assistant Club Doctor: Dr. Tony Gill
* First Team Physiotherapist: Rob Swire

Playing Staff

FIRST TEAM

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first1.jpg)
1 GK Edwin van der Sar
2 DF Gary Neville
(CAPTAIN)
3 DF Patrice Evra
4 MF Owen Hargreaves
5 DF Rio Ferdinand

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first2.jpg)

6 DF Wes Brown
7 MF Cristiano Ronaldo
8 MF Anderson
9 FW Dimitar Berbatov
10 FW Wayne Rooney

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first3.jpg)

11 MF Ryan Giggs
(VICE-CAPTAIN)
12 GK Ben Foster
13 MF Park Ji-Sung
15 DF Nemanja Vidić
16 MF Michael Carrick

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first4.jpg)
17 MF Nani
18 MF Paul Scholes
19 FW Danny Welbeck
20 LB Fabio da Silva
21 RB Rafael da Silva

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first5.jpg)
22 DF John O'Shea
23 DF Jonny Evans
24 MF Darren Fletcher
26 FW Manucho
28 MF Darron Gibson

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first6.jpg)
29 GK Tomasz Kuszczak
31 FW Frazier Campbell
32 FW Carlos Tévez
33 MF Sam Hewson
34 MF Rodrigo Possebon

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/first7.jpg)
35 MF Tom Cleverly
36 DF David Gray
38 GK Ron-Robert Zieler
39 DF James Chester
40 GK Ben Amos


41 FW Federico Macheda
FW Davide Petrucci


ON LOAN
25    DF    Danny Simpson (at Blackburn Rovers until 30 June 2009)[48]
26    FW    Manucho (at Hull City until 30 June 2009)[49]
31   FW    Fraizer Campbell (at Tottenham Hotspur until 30 June 2009)[50]
33      MF      Sam Hewson (at Hereford United until 6 April 2009)[51]
35    MF    Tom Cleverley (at Leicester City until 30 June 2009)[52]
36    MF    David Gray (at Plymouth Argyle until 30 June 2009)[53]
37    DF    Craig Cathcart (at Plymouth Argyle until 30 June 2009)[54][55]
38    GK    Ron-Robert Zieler (at Northampton Town until 31 January 2009)[56][57]
–    GK    Tom Heaton (at Cardiff City until 30 June 2009)[58]

TRANSFERS OUT
Chris Eagles (Burnley, undisclosed fee)
Mikaël Silvestre (Arsenal, undisclosed fee)
Louis Saha (Everton, undisclosed fee)


TRANSFERS IN

Dimitar Berbatov (from Tottenham Hotspurs,30 million pounds)
Zoran Tosic (from Partizan Belgrade,undisclosed fee)
Adem Ljajic (from Partizan Belgrade, undisclosed fee)
Ritchie De Laet (from Stoke, undisclosed fee)


Honours:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/honours.jpg)
* Club World Cup 2008
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/picsrvmanutdcom.jpg)
Current Premier League Champions
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/n570615057_2880946_908.jpg)
Current Champions League Winners
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/2512758408_07986b2d2a.jpg)

Links:

Official Man Utd Website: http://www.manutd.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.
http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/menu.html
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4700718&id=516915013#/group.php?gid=2204500394
http://www.skysports.com/football/team/0,19734,11667,00.html
Fixtures and Results:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={549DC499-79C9-4F21-9ED7-B83018A601D2}

PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE:


Pos Club................Pld (GD) Pts
1. Man United..........21 (24) 47
2. Liverpool............22 (22) 47
3. Chelsea…….........22 (29) 45
4. Aston Villa............22 (13) 44
---------------------------------------
5. Arsenal...............22 (13) 41
6. Everton..............22 (4) 36
7. Wigan................22 (2) 31
8. West Ham............22 (-2) 29
9. Hull City..…….......22 (-13) 27
10. Fulham...............20 (2) 26
11. Man City.............21 (9) 25
12. Portsmouth..........21 (-12) 24
13. Bolton................22 (-8) 23
14. Newcastle Utd......22 (-9) 23
15. Sunderland...........22 (-9) 23
16. Tottenham...........22 (-6) 21
17. Blackburn.............21 (-11) 21
---------------------------------
18. Middlesbrough......22 (-15) 21
19. Stoke City...........22 (-16) 21
20. West Brom............22 (-17) 21


CHAMPIONS LEAGUE KNOCKOUT FIXTURES:

at Inter Milan (24 Feb) 20:45
v. Inter Milan (11 Mar) 20:45


RESULTS:
All Premier League unless otherwise stated:

D 0-0 v Portsmouth (W 3-1 on pens) [CS]
D 1-1 v Newcastle (Fletcher '24 / Martins '22)
W 1-0 at Portsmouth (Fletcher '32)
L 1-2 v Zenit [SC] (Vidić '73 / Pogrebniak '44, Danny '59)
L 1-2 at Liverpool (Brown o.g '27, Babel '77 / Tévez '3)
D 0-0 v Villarreal [CL]
D 1-1 at Chelsea (Kalou '80 / Park '18)
W 3-1 v Middlesbrough [CC] (Ronaldo '25, Giggs '79, Nani '90 / Johnson '56)
W 2-0 v Bolton (Ronaldo '59, Rooney '77)
W 3-0 at Aalborg [CL] (Rooney '22, Berbatov '55, '79)
W 2-0 at Blackburn (Brown '31, Rooney '64)
W 4-0 v West Brom (Rooney '56, Ronaldo '69, Berbatov '71, Nani '90)
W 3-0 v Celtic [CL] (Berbatov '30, '51, Rooney '76)
D 1-1 at Everton ('63 Fellaini / '22 Fletcher)
W 2-0 v West Ham (Ronaldo '14, '30)
W 4-3 v Hull City (Ronaldo '3, Carrick '29, Ronaldo '44, Vidic '55 / Cousin '23, Mendy '69, Geovanni '82)
D 1-1 at Celtic [CL] (McDonald '13 / Giggs '84)
L 1-2 at Arsenal (Nasri '22, '48 / Rafael '90)
W 1-0 v Q.P.R. [CC] (Tévez '76)
W 5-0 v Stoke (Ronaldo '3, '89, Carrick '45, Berbatov '49, Welbeck '89)
D 0-0 at Villa
D 0-0 at Villarreal
W 1-0 at Manchester City (Rooney '42)
W 5-3 v Blackburn [CC] (Tévez '36, '51, '54, '90, Nani '40 / McCarthy '48, '90, Derbyshire '84)
W 1-0 v Sunderland (Vidić '90)
D 2-2 v Aalborg [CL] (Tévez '3, Rooney '52)/ (Jakobsen '31, Curth '45)
D 0-0 at Tottenham
W 5-3 at Gamba Osaka [CWC] (Vidić '28, Ronaldo '45, Rooney '75, '79, Fletcher '78)/(Yamazaki '74, Endo '85, Hashimoto '90)
W 1-0 at LDU Quito [CWC] (Rooney '73)
W 1-0 at Stoke (Tévez '83)
W 1-0 v Middlesbrough (Berbatov '69)
W 3-0 at Southampton [FA] (Welbeck '20, Nani '48, Gibson '81)
L 0-1 at Derby [CC] (Commons '30)
W 3-0 v Chelsea (Vidic '45, Rooney '63, Berbatov '87)
W 1-0 v Wigan (Rooney '1)
W 1-0 at Bolton (Berbatov '90)
W 4-2 v Derby [CC] (Nani '16, O'Shea '22, Tevez '34, Ronaldo '89 / Barnes '80, '92)
W 2-1 v Tottenham [FA] (Scholes '35, Berbatov '36 / Pavlyuchenko '5)

FIXTURES:
at West Brom (27 Jan) 19:45
v Everton (31 Jan) 17:30
at West Ham (8 Feb) 16:00

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/n655754672_1918362_2661.jpg)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 26, 2009, 08:42:15 PM
Fixture pile up adds to Fergie woes

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9135374/Fixture-pile-up-adds-to-Fergie-woes (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9135374/Fixture-pile-up-adds-to-Fergie-woes)

Manchester United's clash with Everton has been moved forward 48 hours to Saturday January 31 due to the Toffees' FA Cup replay with Liverpool.

Steven Gerrard's FA Cup derby leveller for Liverpool may have unwittingly handed Manchester United a problem.

United are without 12 senior players for Tuesday's Premier League trip to West Brom, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson to pick through his squad for a team of fit players.

Ferguson was hoping the situation might have eased in time United's next league game against Everton - with both Rio Ferdinand and Wes Brown tipped to be available after long-standing back and ankle problems respectively and Park Ji-sung on the brink of a comeback from a minor hamstring complaint.

But the Old Trafford encounter with David Moyes' men will now be played 48 hours ahead of schedule - moving forward to Saturday January 31 from Monday February 2 to clear the way for Everton's FA Cup replay with Liverpool on February 4.

It robs Ferdinand, Brown and Park, or anyone else among United's walking wounded who might have had a chance of returning against the Toffees, of two extra days' preparation.

The late change is part of a confusing February fixture list for United.

Their remaining outstanding game against Fulham - originally postponed in August because of the Red Devils' presence in the European Super Cup - has been pencilled in for February 17. But that will be dependent on neither side requiring a fifth-round replay.

In addition, the Red Devils' home match against Portsmouth on February 28 has been postponed because of their appearance in the Carling Cup final the following day.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 26, 2009, 08:42:45 PM
mods...

merge this thread with the real thread please.. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 26, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
evrybody have they own ting goin on here.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on January 27, 2009, 07:00:28 AM
ah have to find ah wuk for dis chile yes...eh mama
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 27, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
West Brom vs Utd preview

West Brom and Manchester United are both suffering from an injury crisis ahead of their Premier League clash at The Hawthorns on Tuesday.

Sir Alex Ferguson's men can go three points clear of Liverpool in second place if they secure maximum points against the Baggies.

While bottom of the table West Brom know that three points can take them as high as 13th such is the tight nature of the Premier League table.

Both managers will have to shuffle their squad for the match with Tony Mowbray particularly struggling in the centre-back department.
Baggies team news

Captain Jonathan Greening has been ruled out for six weeks after a scan revealed he had strained medial knee ligaments in the FA Cup draw against Burnley.

The midfielder is not expected to be fit until mid-March.

The 30-year-old joins defenders Shelton Martis (hamstring), Neil Clement (knee), Ryan Donk (groin), Leon Barnett (hamstring), Jonas Olsson (knee) and Abdoulaye Meite (hamstring) on the sidelines.

Despite Donk limping off against Burnley on Saturday, Mowbray may rush the centre-half back due to a lack of cover in that area.

The hosts will also be without midfielder James Morrison (hamstring), strikers Luke Moore (hamstring) and Craig Beattie, who picked up a knock against the Clarets, and long term casualty Ishmael Miller (knee).

One positive for the Baggies boss on Saturday was the return of Gianni Zuiverloon after a month out with a knee injury.

The defender came through unscathed after coming off the bench and could start against United.

United team news

The champions have an injury list to match their opponents as they look to continue their run of ten successive league games without conceding a goal.

The record is all the more impressive will the amount of injuries they have had to cope with to their backline.

Patrice Evra (ankle), Rio Ferdinand (back), Wes Brown (ankle), Jonny Evans (ankle), Fabio (calf) and Rafael (groin) have all spent time on the sidelines recently and all are set to miss the game.

Meanwhile midfielders Anderson (ankle), Nani (groin) and Ji-Sung Park (ankle) join long-term absentee Owen Hargreaves (knee) in the treatment room.

United will also be without strikers Wayne Rooney (hamstring) and Danny Wellbeck (ankle) but still have a strong forward line available with Cristiano Ronaldo, Dimitar Berbatov and Carlos Tevez all expected to start.

Goalkeeper Ben Foster, who has played in the last two games against Derby and Tottenham, is likely to step down in place of Edwin Van der Sar.

Zoran Tosic could make his first start in a United shirt after coming off the bench against Spurs on Saturday.

Ferguson may be forced to field the 21-year-old as Wellbeck, who started on the wing in Saturday's FA Cup win has been ruled out, leaving the Scot with just Ronaldo as a recognisable winger.

Possible starting XI's

West Brom: Carson, Robinson, Zuiverloon, Donk, Hoefkens, Koren, Teixeira, Do-Heon Kim, Valero, Bednar, Simpson.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Eckersley, Neville, Vidic, O'Shea, Ronaldo, Carrick, Fletcher, Tosic, Tevez, Berbatov.

PREDICTIONS
Skysports.com prediction: West Brom 0 Man Utd 2
Sky Bet odds: West Brom 9/1 Draw 7/2 Man Utd 4/11
One to watch: Zoran Tosic
http://www.skysports.com/football/match_preview/0,19764,11065_3004540,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 27, 2009, 10:41:08 AM
alpha and omega.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 27, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
ah have to find ah wuk for dis chile yes...eh mama


This is his job! LOL!
in de non profit sector.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 27, 2009, 01:27:11 PM
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, O'Shea, Park, Carrick, Giggs, Ronaldo, Berbatov, Tevez.
Subs: Kuszczak, Brown, Tosic, Scholes, Fletcher, Gibson, Eckersley


 :D once again Fergie catches us
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 27, 2009, 02:41:50 PM
1 nil manchester
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 27, 2009, 02:52:01 PM
ah have to find ah wuk for dis chile yes...eh mama
This is his job! LOL!
The first Caribbean Agent and or Scout for Manchester United?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on January 27, 2009, 03:02:56 PM
2-0 man u...howler by carson to gift tevez a goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on January 27, 2009, 03:48:02 PM
damn i eh no Man U fan but this is ridiculous...5-0 now...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 27, 2009, 03:55:10 PM
damn i eh no Man U fan but this is ridiculous...5-0 now...

 :devil: :devil: :devil:

damn i vex i could not get a vid link
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 27, 2009, 04:15:11 PM
5-0 FT

5 Star performance...and all the shit Rob Styles gonna get he get every card and call 100% correct today

Are you watching Merseyside?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 27, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
on our way to another EPL titlte.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on January 27, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
and no new thread

a dawning of a new day maybe??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 27, 2009, 05:35:09 PM
on our way to another EPL titlte.
Capo...........you gorn over also (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sj89xgnl4) :devil: (imagine Vader talkin in a Brave Heart (Fergie) voice)

and no new thread
a dawning of a new day maybe??
The might of DT :applause:


nice signature there ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 27, 2009, 06:39:56 PM
and no new thread

a dawning of a new day maybe??

due to your crybaby attributes we will post our stuff in here

now kindly f**k off

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 27, 2009, 10:05:35 PM
5-0 FT

5 Star performance...and all the shit Rob Styles gonna get he get every card and call 100% correct today

Are you watching Merseyside?

how that paul robinson tackle was a sending off?? 50-50 ball...

if it was scholes went in dey he woulda walk away with a talking to.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 28, 2009, 05:39:29 PM
2 points in front and 1 game in hand.they makin this ting too ez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 28, 2009, 05:42:48 PM
5-0 FT

5 Star performance...and all the shit Rob Styles gonna get he get every card and call 100% correct today

Are you watching Merseyside?

Wait is WBA alyuh play and talking about 5 star performance.   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 28, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
5-0 FT

5 Star performance...and all the shit Rob Styles gonna get he get every card and call 100% correct today

Are you watching Merseyside?

Wait is WBA alyuh play and talking about 5 star performance.   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Top of the league and that's a FACT
Top of the league and that's a FACT
Top of the league and that's a FACT
Top of the league and that's a FACT

PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE:

Pos Club................Pld (GD) Pts
1. Man United..........22 (29) 50
2. Chelsea…….........23 (31) 48
3. Liverpool............23 (22) 48 :rotfl: :rotfl:
4. Aston Villa............23 (14) 47

---------------------------------------
5. Arsenal...............23 (13) 42
6. Everton..............23 (4) 37
7. Wigan................23 (2) 32
8. West Ham............23 (0) 32
9. Man City.............22 (10) 28
10. Hull City..…….......23 (-15) 27
11. Fulham...............21 (1) 26
12. Sunderland...........23 (-8) 26
13. Tottenham...........23 (-4) 24
14. Bolton................23 (-8) 24
15. Portsmouth..........22 (-13) 24
16. Newcastle Utd......23 (-10) 23
17. Blackburn.............22 (-11) 22
---------------------------------
18. Middlesbrough......22 (-17) 21
19. Stoke City...........23 (-18) 21
20. West Brom............23 (-22) 21
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on January 30, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30012009/58/champions-league-vidic-banned-inter-match.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30012009/58/champions-league-vidic-banned-inter-match.html)

Quote
Champions League - Vidic banned for Inter match
Eurosport - Fri, 30 Jan 16:35:00 2009

Nemanja Vidic will miss the first leg of Manchester United's Champions League tie with Internazionale after being suspended for one match following his red card in the Club World Cup final.

(http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20090130/25/c0ee5a855b8345c81083a489441889ba.jpg)

Vidic was dismissed for swinging an elbow into the face of LDU Quito's Claudio Bieler in Yokohama on December 21.

The Serbia star was facing the possibility of a three-game suspension but a FIFA disciplinary panel on Friday confirmed a one-match ban.

Sporting Life / Eurosport
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2009, 11:22:43 AM
expected.... Either Evans or Brown alongside Rio... Utd 1-0..Berba
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2009, 01:12:08 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2009, 01:17:38 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.

a little desperate are we?

the quito guy over exaggerated it.... i think it absolute bullshit that a red card in a Club World Cup should carry over to the Champions League...now that is shit
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2009, 01:20:15 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.

a little desperate are we?

the quito guy over exaggerated it.... i think it absolute bullshit that a red card in a Club World Cup should carry over to the Champions League...now that is shit

that i could agree with you on, i find that is mess for a card from an unrelated tournament to be carried over to champs league.

but rules is rules, and if you look around you would be hard pressed to find a player given a straight red for violent conduct and only given a 1 game ban. 1 game ban is normally for 2 yellow card sending off only.

You and all know that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: daryn on January 30, 2009, 01:24:29 PM


that i could agree with you on, i find that is mess for a card from an unrelated tournament to be carried over to champs league.


I find it kinda funny myself but it's not an unrelated tournament.  Man U went to that tournament because they win Champions league.  Effectively, Champions league is the qualify stage for that tournament.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2009, 01:33:05 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.

a little desperate are we?

the quito guy over exaggerated it.... i think it absolute bullshit that a red card in a Club World Cup should carry over to the Champions League...now that is shit

that i could agree with you on, i find that is mess for a card from an unrelated tournament to be carried over to champs league.

but rules is rules, and if you look around you would be hard pressed to find a player given a straight red for violent conduct and only given a 1 game ban. 1 game ban is normally for 2 yellow card sending off only.

You and all know that.

yea but maybe because all the fuss about the card carrying over allowed only a 1 game...which is fair if he is gonna miss a CL game

if he had got in a CL game then it would have been an automatic 3 game ban
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 30, 2009, 01:34:35 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.

From a Chelsea fan... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 30, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
that should have been nothing less than a 2 game ban for violent conduct.. like allyuh didnt see de blatant elbow he hit de man?

but then again, fortune favors the rich.

From a Chelsea fan... :devil:

He meant "rich HISTORY"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
kick off in about half hour.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 31, 2009, 11:16:40 AM
Manchester United

EVDS

Neville
Rio
Vidic
O'Shea

Ronaldo
Fletch
Carrick
Park

Tevez
Berbatov

Subs: Kuszczak, Brown, Giggs, Welbeck, Fabio, Gibson, Eckersley

kick off at 1 30 pm tt time
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
any links?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2009, 11:29:49 AM
1-1
or

Man United 0 - Everton 1


http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat31.1/ManUtd_Everton.html (http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat31.1/ManUtd_Everton.html)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
links i cah find none
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
What a cheap PK.....Man United have these refs in their pocket.

Man United 1 - Everton 0
Ronaldo 44'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2009, 12:30:32 PM
Another bogus penalty
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on January 31, 2009, 12:34:08 PM
doesn't help that Bains is playing heaploads of sh!t. that man needs to learn how to cross the flippin ball.
but Man U right side under seige.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 12:40:14 PM
real men on this site eye in they kakahole.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
copy and paste this link in yuh browser

it will save u from having to use IE to view the sopcast link in live footy

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/26342
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 12:45:22 PM
oooooooooooowwwwwww,tevez with ah bullet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2009, 12:48:03 PM
real men on this site eye in they kakahole.
You all accustomed to get these kind of dubious calls so you think it's the norm.

Only after dude could not get the ball he hit the ground and Loopy dog ref run over and bail him out with the call.

Look one of your players just pull back Pinear with 2 hands and because he shot the ball the ref eh give a free kick, but you got a PK.
Go on with yuh mess.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 31, 2009, 12:49:07 PM
no argument, that was a penalty.. arteta shouldnt have chook out he back foot.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 12:50:12 PM
real men on this site eye in they kakahole.
You all accustomed to get these kind of dubious calls so you think it's the norm.

Only after dude could not get the ball he hit the ground and Loopy dog ref run over and bail him out with the call.

Look one of your players just pull back Pinear with 2 hands and because he shot the ball the ref eh give a free kick, but you got a PK.
Go on with yuh mess.
how could u question de professionalism of these refs?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
tevez playin real nice ball.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 01:02:47 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

nice bat on felini from fletcher.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 01:03:47 PM
how come links so hard to find these days?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
come on UTD  :wavetowel:  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 01:07:33 PM
come on UTD  :wavetowel:  :devil:

MYP2P like they stop carying EPL

u use the one i put up?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 01:10:09 PM
immediate impact from the vet giggs
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 01:11:26 PM
come on UTD  :wavetowel:  :devil:

MYP2P like they stop carying EPL

u use the one i put up?

yeh i watching it now  :beermug:, because for the past few days i cah find no epl matches on that site.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 01:12:02 PM
van de sar lookin real bored.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 01:26:24 PM
3 points.and 12 clean sheets.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
 :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 01:32:21 PM
 :wavetowel:
walking pace today.

i expecting a  0-0 draw for the other two sides tomorrow ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 31, 2009, 01:32:59 PM
This is a HUGE result for United.

Firstly this is a team that Liverpool play twice in th elast two weeks and couldn't beat them. The 5 point difference now puts extra pressure on Liverppol and CHelsea tomorrow. Whichever side does not win will feel like the title is over.

It is also a good comeuppance for Wenger who was complaining some weeks ago about UNited having a 6 day brealk between the WBA game and the Everton game , which was supposed to be on Monday. Well Wenger get his wish. United play on Saturday and win.

Arsenal play and couldn't even beat West Ham. 10 points off, played a game more, needing 54 teams to collapse...Arsenal's title hopes are over. If they didn't know, now they know.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2009, 01:34:17 PM
real men on this site eye in they kakahole.
You all accustomed to get these kind of dubious calls so you think it's the norm.

Only after dude could not get the ball he hit the ground and Loopy dog ref run over and bail him out with the call.

Look one of your players just pull back Pinear with 2 hands and because he shot the ball the ref eh give a free kick, but you got a PK.
Go on with yuh mess.
how could u question de professionalism of these refs?

Yes, especially when Lescott get pull down on the set play (hand all over the shoulder pulling to the ground) and no call to give that call shows inconsistent whistling, thus leading to doubts about professionalism.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 31, 2009, 01:52:31 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

Who cares.

I just realize that both Arsenal and Chellsea draw with Everton as well in recent weeks.

So I guess I should ask how Chelsea going to deal with the Italians
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 31, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

same way we deal with chelsea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2009, 03:19:56 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

same way we deal with chelsea

 :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 31, 2009, 06:47:32 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

same way we deal with chelsea
:beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 31, 2009, 09:16:45 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

same way we deal with chelsea

Inter is a much bigger side though.

He right to ask the question. The answer will come in time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 31, 2009, 09:59:25 PM
it was a good call by the ref today...credit to Carrick for not going down and attepting to play on...

We werent at our best but a win was deserved.... onto West Ham next Sunday..Should be a cracker...we have some revenge to dish out and they are in some form..especially at Upton Park...

Wazza,Evra and Nani to return as well

My team

-----------VDS----

--Nev-----Rio----Vida----Evra

--CR7--Carrick---Scholes--Park

---------Tevez--Berba

Dont wanna rush Wazza into it..

bench: Foster...Brown...Fabio...Giggs..Nani..Fletcher..Wazza
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 31, 2009, 11:28:31 PM
A win is a win, but the could not break down Everton in defense, I wonder how they will deal with the Italians.

same way we deal with chelsea

Inter is a much bigger side though.

He right to ask the question. The answer will come in time.

Inter is a shyte side.... Zatlan eh go get an inch....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on February 01, 2009, 12:30:00 AM
allyuh should just make this blasted shit thread ah Sticky on the first ever page here(page 532) or stick it in a Child Board or something  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 01, 2009, 07:35:13 AM
allyuh should just make this blasted shit thread ah Sticky on the first ever page here(page 532) or stick it in a Child Board or something  ;D

i can see u just wanted to post in the thread of a winning team for once.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 01, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
allyuh should just make this blasted shit thread ah Sticky on the first ever page here(page 532) or stick it in a Child Board or something  ;D
yuh mother neva told u if u have nutten good to say keep yuh  :-X
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2009, 03:42:28 PM
another season another title  :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on February 02, 2009, 07:53:47 AM
glory glory .......... :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 03, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
San Siro sell-out for United visitby RivalsDM
 
Updated: February 3, 2009, 10:32 AM EST 96 comments Manchester United's Champions League game against Inter Milan at the 80,000-capacity San Siro on February 24 is a sell-out.

The Italian club have confirmed they sold the remaining tickets for the first leg of the last 16 clash against the defending champions within two hours.
Inter also announced the tickets allocated to them from Manchester United for the return leg at Old Trafford on March 11 had been sold.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 03, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
San Siro sell-out for United visitby RivalsDM
 
Updated: February 3, 2009, 10:32 AM EST 96 comments Manchester United's Champions League game against Inter Milan at the 80,000-capacity San Siro on February 24 is a sell-out.

The Italian club have confirmed they sold the remaining tickets for the first leg of the last 16 clash against the defending champions within two hours.
Inter also announced the tickets allocated to them from Manchester United for the return leg at Old Trafford on March 11 had been sold.


all that to see Berba break their hearts
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 04, 2009, 09:15:13 AM
Manchester United's Danny Welbeck Handed England Call-Up
The man who is eligible to play for three nations seems to be wanted by the Three Lions...
Manchester United hot prospect Danny Welbeck has been handed his first call-up to England colours today, as Under-21 manager Stuart Pearce has named him in his squad for the forthcoming fixture with Ecuador.

Welbeck, who also qualifies for Ghana and Scotland through his parents, has previously played for England Under-19s. Only a cap awarded in a senior fixture would tie his international future to the Three Lions, but his inclusion in Pearce's squad would seem to edge him closer to committing that future to a white shirt.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, himself a proud Scotsman, would reportedly prefer the colour of that shirt to be dark blue, but looks set to be disappointed, as do those Ghanaians who were hopeful of Welbeck declaring for their nation.

"As we saw from the last Championship, there are players who come with a late run to get into the squad," Pearce is reported by The Manchester Evening News as saying.

"In this squad, we are having a look at Danny Welbeck who has done well in the U19s and broken into the team at Old Trafford which is no mean feat."

Welbeck has impressed many observers this season with his confident and mature performances for the Red Devils, and is another sign that the Old Trafford player production line is in full working order.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 05, 2009, 01:50:06 PM
Carlos Tevez Offered New Manchester United Deal - Report
Despite earlier reports emanating from Italy that suggested a Serie A giant was waiting to pounce, it looks as though the Argentinean will remain a Red Devil...
Manchester United are set to secure the future of their Argentinean striker Carlos Tevez, reports in England indicate today.

Earlier, there had been suggestions from Italy that Jose Mourinho at Inter Milan was waiting to snare the player. However, after a meeting between United manager Alex Ferguson and Tevez's representative, Kia Joorabchian, following the weekend's victory over Everton, it now looks likely that the Argentine international will be staying in England, according to The Daily Mirror.

Ferguson has seemingly been highly impressed with the way in which Tevez has responded so positively to being left out of the side earlier in the season, with the striker being recalled to the first-team after Wayne Rooney was injured last month.

Tevez had reportedly felt marginalised after the Red Devils signed Dimitar Berbatov in the summer but, rather than sulking about things, he has rolled his sleeves up and performed magnificently whenever called upon by Ferguson.

It is believed that the deal will be worth £30 million, but how that breaks down with the complicated issue of Tevez's 'third-party' registration is impossible to say at this stage.

The player himself, already reputed to be on £75,000 a week, will be offered a contract that will see him take home £11.7m during the three year duration of the deal. Perhaps a good job then that United also announced pre-tax profits of £59.6m this week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2009, 10:57:09 PM
IN MUNICH 23 DIED...IN UNITED YOU LIVE FOREVER!
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/n509772421_1332665_9482.jpg)
R.I.P Busby Babes...We will never Forget
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United's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded all our Munich dead,
Before their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their heart's blood dyed it's every fold.

Then raise United's banner high,
Beneath it's shade we'll live and die,
So keep the faith and never fear,
We'll keep the Red Flag flying here.

We'll never die, we'll never die,
We'll never die, we'll never die,
We'll keep the Red flag flying high,
'Cos Man United will never die
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THE FLOWERS OF MANCHESTER !!!

One cold and bitter Thursday in Munich, Germany,
Eight great football stalwarts conceded victory,
Eight men will never play again who met destruction there,
The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester

Matt Busby's boys were flying, returning from Belgrade,
This great United family, all masters of their trade,
The pilot of the aircraft, the skipper Captain Thain,
Three times they tried to take off and twice turned back again.

The third time down the runaway disaster followed close,
There was slush upon that runaway and the aircraft never rose,
It ploughed into the marshy ground, it broke, it overturned.
And eight of the team were killed as the blazing wreckage burned.

Roger Byrne and Tommy Taylor who were capped for England's side.
And Ireland's Billy Whelan and England's Geoff Bent died,
Mark Jones and Eddie Colman, and David Pegg also,
They all lost their lives as it ploughed on through the snow.

Big Duncan he went too, with an injury to his brain,
And Ireland's brave Jack Blanchflower will never play again,
The great Matt Busby lay there, the father of his team
Three long months passed by before he saw his team again.

The trainer, coach and secretary, and a member of the crew,
Also eight sporting journalists who with United flew,
and one of them Big Swifty, who we will ne'er forget,
the finest English 'keeper that ever graced the net.

Oh, England's finest football team its record truly great,
its proud successes mocked by a cruel turn of fate.
Eight men will never play again, who met destruction there,
the flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={571DB702-768B-4AB7-8699-CB5285216798}
includes stories..vids..and pictures
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on February 07, 2009, 05:15:29 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7876308.stm


United player Tevez's car seized

Carlos Tevez was stopped by police on the M60 motorway

Manchester United soccer star Carlos Tevez has had his £140,000 Bentley seized because he does not have a full UK driving licence, police said.

The 25-year-old Argentina international was stopped by traffic officers on the M60 near Stretford, Greater Manchester. His car has been impounded.

Police said they pulled his car over, suspecting the tinting on its windows was too dark.

Tests at the roadside showed the tint was illegal, police said.

"Shortly after 0920 GMT on Friday officers pulled over a Bentley close to junction 7 of the M60," said a police spokesman.

"The officers were concerned certain windows were illegally tinted. They were tested and found to be too dark so a prohibition notice was issued to the driver.

"When asked to provide his documentation, it was discovered the driver did not have a full UK driving licence and was advised to arrange removal of the car.

"As he could not arrange this, the car was removed under Section 165 of Road Traffic Act 1988."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 07, 2009, 10:07:47 PM
we regainin our riteful place tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 08, 2009, 09:34:19 AM
Game at 12pm tt time on Sportsmax

Utd Squad

VDS

Rafael
Rio
Vidic
O'Shea

Cristiano
Carrick
Scholes
Giggs

Berba
Tevez

Bench: Foster, Eckersley, Fabio, Fletcher,Nani,Park and Welbeck

Rooney and Evra were all to be included but they are not...guess they weren't ready

Neville out with the flu and I'm guessing Brown picked up a knock in training
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
game start
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 08, 2009, 10:08:14 AM
Buss dem West Ham  :devil:
how dem shithongs playin in CIC type colours :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on February 08, 2009, 10:20:30 AM
any links to d game....???


Wazza Tazza whey yuh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 10:25:26 AM
west ham have we under pre sure
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on February 08, 2009, 10:30:28 AM
good game so far...Cole did real shit by turning into trouble instead of goin to the outside to shoot with his right
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
stop toying around with these school boys,put them to friggin bed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:19:55 AM
lucas neill is ah c**t.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:23:26 AM
super goal by giggs in de 62nd.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 08, 2009, 11:23:44 AM
Oh dis is what dis "Stretford End" shit thread is about...

nice goal by Giggs...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
Oh dis is what dis "Stretford End" shit thread is about...

nice goal by Giggs...
welcome.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 08, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing...
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:34:03 AM
west ham startin to play lil feisty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:49:30 AM
that was ah penalty
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 08, 2009, 11:54:56 AM
3 pts,back on top,13 clean sheets.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on February 08, 2009, 12:14:04 PM
Glory Glory  :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil: :beermug: :beermug:  Manu 4 Everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........................
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 08, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
Top of the League and that's a FACT

Pompey you f**king shite... we could have had a 5 point lead with a game in hand

oh well..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 08, 2009, 12:56:10 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 08, 2009, 12:59:57 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45457000/jpg/_45457258_goalgiggs466.jpg)
 Giggs expertly curled his shot through a crowd of players to score the winner
I jez glad "swan dive boy" ent score :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 08, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
 :wavetowel:

too bad i didnt see the game today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 08, 2009, 09:05:15 PM
i eh no fan eh...

but that goal giggs score today..

first he send a man flying off the camera with a shake and then had a next defender hopping.

quality finish.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on February 08, 2009, 09:17:16 PM
nice football match...zola have west ham doing real good things...if he gets a 3 yr run west ham will be a team football lovers will like to look at
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 09, 2009, 02:35:24 PM
Scolari's Sacked! Chelsea's Fack'd and Rafa's still on Crack, but we dont care because we're Top and that's a f**king FACT!

Created by me 2 mins ago.. ;D ;D

to the tune of Jingle Bells
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on February 09, 2009, 07:53:42 PM
dis boy needs a job...
but yuh have some song writing skills dey small mag ...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2009, 08:07:16 PM
Scolari's Sacked! Chelsea's Fack'd and Rafa's still on Crack, but we dont care because we're Top and that's a f**king FACT!

Created by me 2 mins ago.. ;D ;D

to the tune of Jingle Bells


hahahahaha  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 09, 2009, 10:26:41 PM
nice football match...zola have west ham doing real good things...if he gets a 3 yr run west ham will be a team football lovers will like to look at

I agree... lovely, lovely football.  Nice crisp short passes... almost a continental take on Wenger's short-passing game... but adapted to the English tastes, with enough long ball up top to Carlton Cole.  Cole is the quintessential lone striker, plays incredibly well with his back to goal and strong like an Ox... and oh yeah, cyah dribble to save he life... juss pure power and pace, lol.

But prospects for the Hammers look good.  Imagine if Bellamy was still with that side.  Dat yute need to settle down and get in somewhere.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 14, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
de game against derby on fsc @ 11:30am tom.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 15, 2009, 07:06:34 AM
de game against derby on fsc @ 11:30am tom.

dats 12.30 TT time
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
1 nil manchester,goal by nani,he celebrate like KJ
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
shit,de linesman is an ass.should have been 2 nil.sweet flick by giggs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
2 nil manchester in de 44th.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 11:41:21 AM
3 nil.it embarrassin now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 15, 2009, 11:50:09 AM
Derby geh one back

Go Derby :D :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on February 15, 2009, 11:59:03 AM
ManU is hands down the best team in the EPL. They basically have two teams, one does click & flow better than the other, but both capable of winning. Everybody else playing fun CL spots.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 12:19:31 PM
de lead is now 4-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 02:38:34 PM
Sir Alex Ferguson Reacts To Manchester United's FA Cup Quarter-Final DrawFergie has given his thoughts on his side's win over Derby and their potential last eight opponents.
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted a trip to face either Fulham or Swansea City in the FA Cup Quarter-Finals will be a difficult tie.

The Red Devils defeated Derby County 4-1 at Pride Park this afternoon with Nani, Darron Gibson, Cristiano Ronaldo and Danny Welbeck scoring to send them through to the last eight.

And now a trip to either Craven Cottage or the Liberty Stadium in Wales awaits Fergie’s men in the last eight, and the Scot understands it will not be easy.

“Well, you always say ideally in the Cup that you will take a home tie, so it’s not ideal” Ferguson said to ITV Sport after the draw was made.

”I watched Swansea on Saturday against Fulham and they played very very well – an extremely impressive performance.

“I don’t think that tie is finished, but either way, whoever we get, we are just one step away from the semi-finals so it is a big incentive to our players.

“Hopefully the form stays the way it is at the moment, which has been very good.”

Ferguson then moved to praise his club’s squad depth, which he feels has helped to carry them through what has been a difficult run of fixtures.

“We’ve been saying for a number of weeks now that when we’ve had injuries it has been our squad depth that has carried us through and getting us past all those difficult games – something that was proved again today.

“With the game on Wednesday [against Fulham in the Premier League] in mind I made a few changes and they all did very well.”

The United manager concluded by giving his verdict on Ronaldo’s controversially disallowed ‘goal’, where the Portuguese winger scored and was in the process of celebrating as a late offside flag appeared, with the score at only 1-0.

“I got an explanation, whether that works or not I’m not so sure,” he laughed.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on February 15, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
like this a play by play thread or what?
hardly any constructive content  :devil:

Lawd help we, this go pass de Arsenal thread by next week at this rate  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 15, 2009, 02:44:18 PM
Blackburn Rovers or Coventry City      v      Chelsea
Swansea City or Fulham    v    Manchester United
Arsenal/Cardiff or Burnley    v    Sheffield United or Hull City
Everton    v    West Ham United or Middlesbrough






FA Cup draw for the next round, i'll like to play against Swansea City to face Jason Scotland.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 15, 2009, 02:46:18 PM
like this a play by play thread or what?
hardly any constructive content  :devil:

Lawd help we, this go pass de Arsenal thread by next week at this rate  ;D
stay to fuk off.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 15, 2009, 03:37:25 PM
like this a play by play thread or what?
hardly any constructive content  :devil:

Lawd help we, this go pass de Arsenal thread by next week at this rate  ;D

stueps they in yuh shithound thread nah  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 15, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
very good performance today...welbeck goal was class...very henry-esque


ITV highlights:
1st half: http://www.mediafire.com/?nwzyhdzmdof
2nd half: http://www.mediafire.com/?mjvmnyijimj

Bring on Swansea hopefully... that would be a nice game by two attacking teams

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 15, 2009, 07:27:06 PM
very good performance today...welbeck goal was class...very henry-esque


ITV highlights:
1st half: http://www.mediafire.com/?nwzyhdzmdof
2nd half: http://www.mediafire.com/?mjvmnyijimj

Bring on Swansea hopefully... that would be a nice game by two attacking teams



boss goal, but don't like his Henry vex face big lip celebration though. He coulda do something better. It look just like Henry celebration in  FIFA 08
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 17, 2009, 09:02:18 AM
any links fuh de fulham game tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 17, 2009, 10:46:17 AM
any links fuh de fulham game tomorrow.

i'm sure Die Hard and others will post them tomorrow

Game is on Setanta though...at 4pm tt time

and Wazza is back  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on February 18, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
I doubt Rooney playing this game after Tevez and Berbatov get good rest on Saturday.

This is a big game for United but I could see a draw. Fulham is a hard to beat side and United on a long winning streak. Fulham get points from Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea dn Villa this year and they will be looking to play spoiler.

As much as I would like to see Fulham get blow-out, that plus the fact that the streak must end sometime making me feel that this is the game where some points might drop.

We'll see.



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 18, 2009, 01:07:01 PM
Any links to the game ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on February 18, 2009, 01:45:20 PM
Strong United Line-up

VDS
O'Shea Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Ronaldo Carrick Scholes Park
Berbatov Tevez

Rooney on the bench.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 18, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
http://athe-net-tv.blogspot.com/2008/12/stv-3.html

http://athe-net-tv.blogspot.com/2009/02/football-4.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 18, 2009, 02:14:34 PM
GLORY GLORY MAN UTD!

what a slut!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 18, 2009, 02:16:33 PM
what a slut!
SO...you HAD to go and Quote de man BIG post eh ::) ::) that ONE post alone does take up three pages by itself :devil: :devil:

you ent see ya just encouraging dem ManUBuntas and dem
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 18, 2009, 02:18:03 PM
P. Scholes 1 nil  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 18, 2009, 02:39:51 PM
2 nuffen now

ok manu, shake fulham up so Scotty and dem could put dem away
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 18, 2009, 02:40:14 PM
2 nil,berba in de 30th
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 18, 2009, 02:51:25 PM
100% domination so far

Cant wait till Wazza gets in
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 18, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
ManU on ah mission today boy, Fullham best start defending before they get about 4 or 5.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 18, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
Rooney now come on, first touch is GOAL. 3-0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 18, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
 :salute:


 :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 18, 2009, 03:53:39 PM
3-0 final score, but more importantly we kept another clean sheet. Good results guys.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on February 18, 2009, 04:01:53 PM
Anybody could tell me what Wigan, Everton, West Ham and Fulham have in common?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 18, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Anybody could tell me what Wigan, Everton, West Ham and Fulham have in common?

ummm fear?

Great display...game in hand over  :)   5 pts clear
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 18, 2009, 04:07:05 PM
Anybody could tell me what Wigan, Everton, West Ham and Fulham have in common?

jogo bonito  ???

 ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 18, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
alyuh see scholes bullet  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 18, 2009, 06:53:57 PM
alyuh see scholes bullet  :o

VIntage Scholes.
Dats the second one like that since he come back from injury  :applause: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 18, 2009, 07:00:45 PM
Anybody see that Liverstool thread recently? How it so quite?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 18, 2009, 07:03:35 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: they aint have nothing to cheer about
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 18, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
Daily Mail, UK

Why is Fergie ahead of Liverpool?

Last updated at 7:58 AM on 18th February 2009

 Sometimes the best explanations are the simplest ones. Princess Diana died because her driver was drunk and going too fast. The Twin Towers were hit by Islamic terrorists, not CIA agents. The continued success of Simon Cowell and the Osbourne family is, indeed, one of the harbingers of the apocalypse.

To this list, we can add the reason Manchester United will, in all likelihood, move five points clear of Liverpool at the top of the Premier League table by beating Fulham tonight.

They have a better team.
Now this may come as a surprise to those still looking for clues to account for the change in the balance of power this season. In recent months, many otherwise rational people have become convinced that Liverpool have frittered away supremacy in the title race based on a combination of rogue and random factors.

 Shouted down: Rafael Benitez's press conference rant didn't help his side - but it isn't the reason Liverpool lie second in the table.
Mind games played by Sir Alex Ferguson, the fractious contract negotiations of Rafael Benitez, boardroom unrest at Anfield or any number of peripheral events are believed to have inspired Manchester United to claw away at Liverpool's lead. This is good news for analysts, commentators and headline-writers, who have had, as The Flintstones theme tune puts it, a gay old time.

Without wishing to spoil the fun, however, it is more straightforward than that. Take the best Manchester United XI and the best Liverpool XI and put them together: how many of Benitez's team would get into Ferguson's? Not many. And that is why the championship is again heading for Old Trafford.

By my reckoning, maximum four, minimum two. Split the difference, call it three. Whichever way, there is nothing here to suggest that Liverpool can get the better of Manchester United this season, or next, without substantial upgrading in the summer.

Using it, Liverpool would be placed above Chelsea, although not by a huge distance. Manchester United, by contrast, would dominate Chelsea with just one player (Frank Lampard) or a generous three (Lampard plus Jose Bosingwa and Ashley Cole) getting into Ferguson's current team.

Assessment is made on form this season, not reputation. So while there may have been a time when Jose Reina, Liverpool's goalkeeper, would have shaded it from Edwin van der Sar, in goal for Manchester United, it is not right now when the Dutchman has beaten a long-standing British record for minutes without conceding a league goal, and is closing in on the 1,390- minute European record set by Dany Verlinden of Club Brugge in Belgium in 1990.

Javier Mascherano is another who would have walked into the holding midfield role at any club last season, but he has been a disappointment this year, perhaps as a result of his exertions for Argentina during the Olympics.

That leaves Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard as the two Liverpool players who would definitely be accommodated in the Manchester United team while, on a good day, one of Xabi Alonso or Mascherano could make the defensive midfield and an out-of-position Jamie Carragher would contend at full back.
 Tag team: Gerrard and Torres are the only Liverpool players who would definitely win a place in Ferguson's line-up.
Benitez's penchant for drama has drawn understandably negative comment as Liverpool's grip on the prize has weakened, but he cannot be held solely responsible. His squad deficiencies are being exposed just as Manchester United's strength in depth is at its most apparent.

Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, had it right. Asked about the mind games that famously denied Newcastle United the title in 1996, he replied that Newcastle's defence, not Kevin Keegan's outburst on Sky TV, determined the final placings. Logical explanations get you nowhere in the pantomime that is the Premier League, though, so instead we waste valuable time analysing pronouncements from Old Trafford, and their effect, at the expense of crediting what is arguably the finest squad of footballers assembled by an English club.

There has never been a group like the one at Manchester United. Gary Neville versus Wes Brown versus Rafael da Silva, and that is just for the right back spot. Wayne Rooney versus Dimitar Berbatov versus Carlos Tevez versus Cristiano Ronaldo. Yet we ignore this and become distracted by Rafa's rant.

There are similarities with the collapse of England's cricket team in Jamaica two weeks ago, in that several small factors might have made an impact on the cohesion of the team, but none were actually in the middle with bat in hand.

So Benitez does not get on with Rick Parry, the chief executive? Big deal.

Jimmy Greaves, in wonderfully flippant mode, summed up the inconsequence of departmental relationships on the dressing room, by recalling his time at Tottenham Hotspur. 'Most of us didn't like Bill Nicholson, and Bill Nicholson didn't like us,' he said. 'In fact, the only thing we all agreed on was that we couldn't stand the board of directors.'

Benitez's distance from Parry and George Gillett, one half of the partnership of American owners, may be a problem for the long-term stability of the club and could be very damaging in the summer if he leaves, but it should not be, here and now, an issue for the playing staff. Nor should Benitez's feelings about Ferguson's influence on English football have an effect.

That press conference tirade is often cited as explanation for Liverpool's reversal of fortune, but what would the fall-out be anyway? That Liverpool players rally around Benitez in the desire to stick one up United? They seem to have had that motivation for some while, judging by Mascherano's furious display at Old Trafford last season.

The idea that Benitez's claims put pressure on his players is also ridiculous; as if there were previously no pressure on a Liverpool team with an opportunity to win its first title in the modern era. Had Benitez taken a vow of silence until the end of the season, the tension at Anfield would still be oppressively thick.

The reality is that Liverpool are going up against a colossal group of players at United and no team, not even the lavishly-assembled Chelsea, can live with them right now. They have a unique multiplicity, so even the understudies of understudies would get into many good teams (as Mikael Silvestre did at Arsenal this season).

It is in many ways the perfect squad, because it also provides for the future in players such as Ben Foster, the reserve goalkeeper, and Jonny Evans, who has fitted in magnificently at centre half in the absence of Rio Ferdinand this season.

It is a sign of United's power that they could play an unconventional central midfield of Ryan Giggs and Darren Fletcher against Chelsea and still win comfortably. On another day it might be Michael Carrick and Anderson or Paul Scholes. If Benitez had United's squad he could rant at or fall out with who he liked: he would still win the league, as United almost certainly will.

Now combine the two teams, starting at the back. Both have good keepers, but there can be no argument that a man who has gone 1,212 minutes without conceding a league goal is among the players of the season. Van der Sar, therefore, gets the nod over Reina. He has been on a roll since emerging victorious from the penalty shoot-out at the Champions League final last season.

 In control: Expect Fergie to be smiling again come May.
United have three strong right backs and the only alternative would be to overlook them all for Carragher, Benitez's defensive rock, out of position in a role he has occupied in key matches in Europe. This would be appealing because, to put it bluntly, he is not getting into this team at centre half.

Those positions are reserved for Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, an early contender for Footballer of the Year. Ferdinand's appearances through the season have been restricted by injury, but Vidic has been a constant and as a partnership they have now surpassed John Terry and Ricardo Carvalho of Chelsea.

At left back, United's Patrice Evra is the best in the country at the moment, ahead of Ashley Cole, of Chelsea.

Midfield brings another Manchester United landslide with Gerrard the only Liverpool player in a four that would comprise Ronaldo, Fletcher and Giggs. Torres would be the goalscoring spearhead, but his partner would be Rooney. Final total: Manchester United 8, Liverpool 3. And one of Liverpool's three gets in with a shoe-horn.

Despite the excellent job done by Roy Hodgson, Manchester United should beat Fulham tonight and, at that moment, a daunting lead will open up. Liverpool still have to go to Old Trafford, so the battle is not over, but the biggest shock of the season would be if United threw it away from here.

If that were the case, there genuinely would be need for an investigation - into whether Ronaldo's heart was still in Manchester, whether Berbatov's arrival had unsettled the team, if Ferguson was correct in his treatment of Tevez.

Were Manchester United to blow it, we would all be looking behind the story for clues. It is easier to work out what has gone wrong at Liverpool, though: the answer is right there, on the teamsheet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on February 18, 2009, 09:28:23 PM
Anybody could tell me what Wigan, Everton, West Ham and Fulham have in common?

jogo bonito  ???

 ::)

All four play Liverpool in recent months, Liverpool couldn't beat them United could.

Chelsea couldn't beat three of the four either
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 18, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Anybody could tell me what Wigan, Everton, West Ham and Fulham have in common?
manchester's whippin boys.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on February 19, 2009, 12:10:51 AM
Glory Glory Man Unitied, Glory Glory Man Unitied LOL........Anyone have de link to see de goals?

MAN UNITIED 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :rotfl: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 19, 2009, 06:41:44 AM
http://www.tvgolo.com/football.php
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on February 20, 2009, 07:20:30 AM
Carlos Tevez's future at Manchester United has been thrown into fresh doubt after the striker's representative Kia Joorabchian declared he is ''studying other options''.

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The striker is not an automatic first-choice.

Tevez has been on loan at Old Trafford for nearly two years but with the deal expiring at the end of the season and United have failed to take up their option to sign the striker on a permanent basis.

"Carlos is in the market now that United have not made any move for him," Joorabchian told the Daily Star.

"We are now studying other options and interested parties. There is no option left with United any longer."

United missed the chance to seal a deal for Tevez in January, despite the Argentina international's repeated claims that he would be happy to stay in the Premier League and speculation has continued due to the fact he has only started 13 games this season.

Argentina boss Diego Maradona has urged Tevez to join Serie A leaders Inter Milan, who have been linked with a £30m bid (along with Real Madrid) in the summer, but Joorabchian's confirmation that the player's third-party owners are weighing up interest from other clubs suggests they will not be the only ones interested.

Tevez himself has said recently that he would have to wait until June to discover where he would be playing his football next season, claiming: "My mind is pointing me towards United and my plan is to stay here for several years more. I've already talked to the club and now we'll have to wait and see what happens in June.

"We talked but I've signed nothing yet. I want to stay. It would be difficult for me to quit one of the biggest clubs in the world."
www.soccernet.com
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 20, 2009, 07:43:48 AM
It'll be tough to see him leave but 32 million pounds is alot of money for a player who will most likely be on the bench due to Berba's class and Rooney's Spirit and Quality

I hope he could stay but Benzema and David Villa are available so
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 20, 2009, 08:33:05 PM
United on the brink of history(FIFA.com) Friday 20 February 2009

As the Manchester United players stepped off the plane, looking tired and bleary eyed after returning home from Japan with the FIFA Club World Cup trophy, they could hardly have believed what they would go on to achieve. Since the Red Devils suffered a 2-1 defeat at the hands of Arsenal on 8 November 2008, Sir Alex Ferguson’s men have gone on a run of 14 games and 1,302 minutes without conceding a single Premier League goal.

The last time United’s defence was breached by Samir Nasri, USA had a different president, Hull were fourth in the table and the world was yet to feel the full effect of the global credit crunch. But despite all these changes, there has been one constant - the man between the posts. At 38, Dutchman Edwin Van der Sar is now just 89 minutes away from eclipsing the European record for consecutive clean sheets, set by FC Bruges stopper Dany Verlinden in 1990.

Standing in the way of van der Sar and United’s record breaking achievement are the rejuvenated Blackburn Rovers, with only one defeat in their last 11 games under new manager Sam Allardyce. However, despite Rovers' impressive recent run they still sit third from bottom, deep in the relegation dog-fight and will be hoping that either Norwegian winger Morten Gamst Pedersen, or strikers Benni McCarthy and Roque Santa Cruz can upset the United rearguard.


I see the clean sheets simply as a tremendous reflection on the quality of Edwin van der Sar’s goalkeeping, and the excellence of the men at the back.
Sir Alex Ferguson on United's defensive record.


Sir Alex Ferguson has produced several great sides during his 23 years in charge at Old Trafford and believes that his goalkeeper and back four are the best he has seen. “I see the clean sheets simply as a tremendous reflection on the quality of Edwin van der Sar’s goalkeeping, and the excellence of the men at the back. They have been out of this world, and I was delighted when they chalked up 14 consecutive league games without conceding a goal to set a British record, and they have a great chance of achieving a world record.”

The run of shut-outs that the world champions have gone on is made even more remarkable when you consider that their linchpin, England regular Rio Ferdinand, has missed ten of those games with a back injury. A lot of the credit has to be awarded to Nemanja Vidic, who has been touted as a possible Player of the Year in England. Many people raised a few eyebrows when the relative unknown was signed from Spartak Moscow for £7 million in January 2006, but the centre-back has been an outstanding performer since his arrival, receiving rave reviews for his aggressive, no-nonsense style and his ability to score vital goals, none more so than the last minute winner against Sunderland this season.


The Red Devils seem to be getting better and better as each game passes and Ferguson believes the the team can achieve even more success. "We may not win every game between now and May, but that will be our aim. There is also a mental toughness in the team these days that will stand us in good stead as the pressure builds. This group of players has been together for a couple of seasons, and they have developed strong bonds. This has fostered the type of stability needed for success, and I think we are going to take some beating.”

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 07:08:36 AM
links

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=31170&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 21, 2009, 11:09:21 AM
de game comin on fsc 20 mins.lookin fuh man u to rip blackburn ah new asshole.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on February 21, 2009, 11:18:48 AM
com on santa cruz, jason whey yuh deh. jus score 1 on van der sa nah
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 21, 2009, 11:20:24 AM
com on santa cruz, jason whey yuh deh. jus score 1 on van der sa nah
:shameonyou:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
die hard present and accounted for  :salute:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 11:32:32 AM
eh? no van der sar
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
1 nil  ;D rooney
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 12:05:42 PM
meh Blackburn score
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 21, 2009, 12:06:04 PM
santa cruz in de 32nd.fukker.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on February 21, 2009, 12:21:54 PM
Time for Nani to come off, he playing shit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
Time for Nani to come off, he playing shit.

dais a regular thing yes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 12:54:29 PM
 :devil: 2-1 RONALDO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2009, 01:27:31 PM
UTD UTD UTD  :devil: :devil: :devil:

3 POINTS  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on February 21, 2009, 01:37:15 PM
You expect big teams to get the calls but Webb had a poor game today. United cannot be blamed for his decisions obviously, but Blackburn will feel they should have at least been given something.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 21, 2009, 02:08:49 PM
city will cut liverpool ass tomorrow. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 21, 2009, 02:19:19 PM
allya doh get tired of dis every week :devil:

Good match ManU
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 21, 2009, 02:22:05 PM
allya doh get tired of dis every week :devil:

Good match ManU
how u will get tired of this,this is pure adrenaline
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 21, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
allya doh get tired of dis every week :devil:

Good match ManU
how u will get tired of this,this is pure adrenaline
yeah
10th is betta dan 18th :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on February 21, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
wham allyuh? like current went when CRonaldo dive .. ah mean simulate a foul ... ah mean try to con the referee ... ah mean cheat and get ketch.

how come none ah allyuh mention this?

what is it that this boy have in him that he LOVE to thief and cheat so?
Is a good thing he eh no banker, otherwise he woulda be just as unscrupulous as Madoff and Stanford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 21, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
wham allyuh? like current went when CRonaldo dive .. ah mean simulate a foul ... ah mean try to con the referee ... ah mean cheat and get ketch.
how come none ah allyuh mention this?
what is it that this boy have in him that he LOVE to thief and cheat so?
Is a good thing he eh no banker, otherwise he woulda be just as unscrupulous as Madoff and Stanford.
ACB, the scene is
"WIN at all costs"
SWAN DIVE BOI  :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2009, 07:31:35 PM
I would love to see if he could get away with, it would be funny. I was reading this and I thought ,I can't believe he said this out loud! I am sure he was joking but .....


ALEX FERGUSON would love to send on Fabio Da Silva as a half-time sub for his identical twin Rafael — without notifying the referee.

The Manchester United boss said: “We have two great Brazilian defenders in Fabio and Rafael and it’s impossible to distinguish who is who.


“My dream would be to start one and replace him with the other without anyone noticing. They are extraordinary, they really adore football."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 22, 2009, 07:46:10 PM
interesting
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 22, 2009, 08:28:34 PM
once yuh could do it and get away.go right ahead. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on February 28, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
Up four it: Old Trafford star Wayne Rooney confident Manchester United can claim the quadruple this season

By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 11:48 AM on 28th February 2009
 
Wayne Rooney believes Manchester United can win the quadruple as they are stronger than last season when they won the Champions League and Premier League double.

United face Tottenham in the Carling Cup final tomorrow in their first chance of domestic silverware before they attempt to clinch the Barclays Premier League and Champions League titles as well as the FA Cup.

The Old Trafford club have already won the FIFA Club World Cup and the 23-year-old believes they can claim the four trophies available to them.

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Up four it: Wayne Rooney is confident Manchester United can record an incredible quadruple sweep this season as they continue to go from strength to strength

'I hope the quadruple is possible,' Rooney told The Sun.

'We have a great chance in the Carling Cup, we're in a good position in the league, the quarter-finals of the FA Cup and have a good chance of reaching the same stage in the Champions League.

'It will be hard work to win them all but we are positive and that's what we're aiming to do.

'We are stronger than last season when we won the double.

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Wayne's world: Rooney celebrates his first trophy win with United in the Carling Cup over Wigan in 2006 when he also celebrated the man-of-the-match prize

'And winning the Champions League has given us an added confidence and belief which has brought us on.'

'Rooney also revealed that lifting the trophy at Wembley tomorrow would fulfil a childhood dream.

'I still remember going to the old Wembley as a kid to watch Everton beat United in the FA Cup final,' he continued.

'It was an amazing occasion and something that has always stuck in my mind. To play in a major final is still a dream come true for me.

'The Carling Cup was the first trophy I won with United, in Cardiff, and something I want to win again badly.

'The fact it is at such an amazing place like Wembley now obviously makes it more special.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1157924/Up-Rooney-confident-United-claim-quadruple-triumph.html#
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 28, 2009, 11:13:23 AM
Carling Cup Final 2009
Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspurs
Wembley Stadium
Sunday March 1st @ 10am EST(11 am TT Time)
Setanta Sports
Trotters for atmosphere
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Preview:
Tottenham will be looking to put an end to Manchester United's hopes of a quintuple when the two sides meet in the Carling Cup final on Sunday.

Holders Spurs will not want to give up their crown without a fight and will fancy their chances after United boss Sir Alex Ferguson revealed that he would be sticking with his youngsters who have got him this far.

Spurs manager Harry Redknapp has seemingly traded Uefa Cup glory for a win on Sunday after he rested all of his big guns for the last-32 tie against Shakhtar Donetsk on Thursday.

If the gamble fails to pay off and United succeed in the first part of their record-breaking conquest Redknapp can expect a backlash from the Spurs supporters.
United team news

First choice goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar has not featured in the competition this season so Ferguson must decide between Ben Foster and Tomasz Kuszczak.

The pair have made two Carling Cup appearances each this season but the Englishman could get the nod after Kuszczak's erratic display against Blackburn last weekend.

Defender Jonny Evans is rated as 50/50 after he needed pain killing injections to get through Tuesday's draw with Inter.

The Northern Ireland international has been suffering with an ankle injury that dates back to his time on loan at Sunderland at the end of last season.

If the 21-year-old does not make it Ferguson will look to start regular centre-back pairing of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic.

Fellow defender Gary Neville has returned to training during the past week and he could be involved but Wes Brown (metatarsal) is out.

Midfielder Anderson could make a return to first-team action after picking up an ankle injury in the semi-final second-leg win over Derby in January.

The Brazilian played 45 minutes of United's reserve team clash with Manchester City on Thursday and will compete with Darren Fletcher, Michael Carrick and Darren Gibson for a midfield berth.

Fellow Brazilian Fabio played in the same match and was also withdrawn early in the second half, hinting that he could replace twin brother Rafael who has been ruled out for a month with an ankle injury.

Carlos Tevez should start up front after playing in all of the club's games in the competition this season with either Wayne Rooney or Danny Wellbeck partnering him.

Spurs team news

Huerelho Gomes will start in goal with fellow stopper Carlo Cudicini ineligible.

Redknapp rested Jonathan Woodgate, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Vedran Corluka, Ledley King, Jermaine Jenas, Luka Modric, Darren Bent, Aaron Lennon and Roman Pavlyuchenko for the Shakhtar match and all can expect to be involved on Sunday.

Skipper King featured in Monday's win at Hull and despite not being able to play two games a week is expected to start for the final.

If the 28-year-old fails to recover in time Michael Dawson should step in after he too was rested for Thursday's draw.

The former Portsmouth manager is expected to field a five -midfield so either Bent or Pavlyuchenko will miss out.

With the Russian scoring in every round so far he is favourite to play as the lone striker with Bent settling for a place on the bench.

Redknapp will also wait to assess midfielder Jamie O'Hara's hip injury before deciding on his final eleven.

Strikers Robbie Keane (ineligible) and Jermaine Defoe (foot) are out as are Pascal Chimbonda and Wilson Palacios who are both ineligible.

Possible starting XIs:

Man Utd: Foster, Fabio, Evans, Vidic, O'Shea, Nani, Gibson, Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez.

Tottenham: Gomes, Corluka, King, Woodgate, Assou-Ekotto, Bentley, Zokora, Jenas, Lennon, Modric, Pavlyuchenko
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11061_4980725,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on February 28, 2009, 02:27:48 PM
one part of de puzzle is hours away.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on February 28, 2009, 11:06:43 PM
Wood passing tomorrow....Glory Glory Man United

Man U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR............................ :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on March 01, 2009, 05:30:37 AM
c'mon 'arry give those wankers what they deserve  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
live links

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=31348&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2009, 08:35:48 AM
c'mon 'arry give those wankers what they deserve  :devil:

the title?  ;) :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 08:43:10 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/533068
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 08:55:28 AM
coverage start
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on March 01, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
 spurs looking like  they lose the kicks already  so. the team looking real down dread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2009, 11:45:41 AM
Finally!!!!!!!



GLORY GLORY!

 :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 01, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
Ben Foster is a BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 11:55:22 AM
GLORY GLORY  :devil: :devil: :devil:  :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 01, 2009, 11:58:01 AM
It was a hard fought game, but in the end we got what we went for. Congrats United.

Glory Glory  :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2009, 12:00:19 PM
Ben Foster is a BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


Yes he is, very athletic, stops shots, kicks with both feet, commands his area, calm, distributes quite well-needs to stay healthy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
 ;D

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 01, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
so that's 2 in de bag,2 more to go.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2009, 03:11:52 PM
so that's 2 in de bag,2 more to go.

3 more to go lad
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 01, 2009, 04:33:22 PM
Who is the best goalkeeper?
27 February 2009, 16:47
Manchester United FC's Edwin van der Sar has broken English league, Premier League and British league records by keeping 14 successive clean sheets in the top flight, a sequence which is still ongoing. The Dutchman has also taken that form on to the European stage, having yet to concede a goal in this season's UEFA Champions League, but who do you think is the best keeper left in the competition?

Deadly Dutchman
Van der Sar maintained his unbeatable veneer this week when he kept FC Internazionale Milano at bay in the first knockout round first leg to make it four shutouts from as many UEFA Champions League appearances this term. However, there are plenty of rivals to the 38-year-old United custodian. Internazionale's Júlio César was at his very best to deny United, and Cristiano Ronaldo in particular, at the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza on Tuesday, while on the same evening, Arsenal FC's Manuel Almunia produced a magnificent save to divert Marco Motta's stinging shot wide as AS Roma threatened an early lead in London.

Classy competition
On Wednesday, three more goalkeepers, Petr Čech (Chelsea FC), Michael Rensing (FC Bayern München) and Pepe Reina (Liverpool FC), posted clean sheets. Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus), meanwhile, shipped his first goal of the European campaign, and although he made only one outing during the group stage, the Italian's class is unquestionable. Who do you think has shown the best form so far? Click below to have your say.
http://www1.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/talkfootball/blogs/newsid=805451.html


so that's 2 in de bag,2 more to go.

3 more to go lad
Capo sayin day have de EPL in de bag orready ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 06:10:23 PM
nah i think he mean world club champions  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 01, 2009, 06:13:48 PM
nah i think he mean world club champions  :devil:
so, is in fact 5 trophies allya goin an win, not 4 as Shrek says ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
Yeh it will be 5  ;D,  1 World club champions,  2 Epl ,  3 FA Cup , 4 Carling Cup , 5 Champions Legue
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 01, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
Yeh it will be 5  ;D,  1 World club champions,  2 Epl ,  3 FA Cup , 4 Carling Cup , 5 Champions Legue
steeeeuuuuppppssss :devil:

would that be the first time a club ever did that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 01, 2009, 07:29:22 PM
i so much silverware i gettin dotish.3 more.EPL,CL and FA CUP.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 01, 2009, 09:32:29 PM
Redknapp backs United cleansweep(AFP) Sunday 1 March 2009

Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp is backing Manchester United to finish this season with an unprecedented haul of five trophies. "They have got a big chance. They are the team to beat for sure," Redknapp said after a goalless League Cup final was resolved by United beating his side 4-1 in the penalty shoot-out.

"They have a fantastic squad. They have one cup already, it looks as if the league is going their way for sure and you wouldn't bet against them in the UEFA Champions League and the FA Cup," Redknapp said.

In addition to the trophy they collected today, United also won the FIFA Club World Cup Japan 2008™, but their manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, continues to play down the chances of his side retaining their UEFA Champions League and Premier League trophies while going on to win the FA Cup.

"I'm not going to get carried away with it," Ferguson said. "Only you guys, the media, will. We will keep our feet on the ground. My experience is we could go to Fulham this weekend in the FA Cup and the ball comes off somebody's backside and we are out of the cup. That is what cups can do to you."

Ferguson acknowledged that Tottenham might easily have won today's match before the shoot-out but for the heroics of Ben Foster, who made two crucial saves in open play before stopping Jamie O'Hara's opening spot-kick for Spurs.

"It was not an easy day for us," Ferguson said. "We have played better this season, but cup finals are not easy. Tottenham were good opponents and they probably had the better chances in the match, but Ben has made a few good saves for us."

Ferguson said Foster's performance was another sign that, as well as being the natural successor to Edwin van der Sar at United, he could go on to be England's number one for a long time. "The future is his," Ferguson said. "The present belongs to Van der Sar, that is obvious, but that performance can only strengthen my opinion of his ability and his own self-confidence.

"He is a strong character. He has had to be," Ferguson added. "He has had to come through two cruciate ligament injuries and you have to have something inside you to do that."


The lads were terrific, we just could not get that break. I thought we were going to win it in the last minute. 
Tottenham Hotspur manager Harry Redknapp


Despite his admiration for United, Redknapp was delighted with his team's performance, and felt they had the edge in the contest. "The lads were terrific, we just could not get that break," he said. "I thought we were going to win it in the last minute [when Darren Bent drew a good save from Foster]."

Spurs' fate was sealed after O'Hara had their first penalty saved by Foster and David Bentley steered the third spot-kick wide. O'Hara was left in tears, but Redknapp offered consolation.

"Jamie was the first to volunteer to take one. Unfortunately the goalkeeper has made a good save, but he is okay. I'm just pleased I got him on today. He left in tears last year when he did not get in the squad for the final last year. He feels for the club and he is a terrific lad."



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 02, 2009, 01:20:09 AM
Wood.............Glory Glory :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 02, 2009, 11:11:26 AM
Very good win.

I really happy to see that United taking the League Cup seriously despite the fact that they involved in the bigger competitions. This is a competition that Ferguson paid absolutely no attention to during the 90's.

With that said I think it way too early to start contamplating 4 trophies (I don't really rate the World Championship, it is a more significant title than the Charity Shield and Super Cup, but not by much).

To be completely honest just winning the League and FA Cup to complete a first domestic treble would be a dream. United lost their last 2 FA cup finals and haven't won th ecompetition for 5 years now. i really want to see them win it again but even that will be hard with Chelsea and Arsenal still in the running.

Don't talk for the CL. Not even thinking about that yet becuase it have too many games to play and oo many good teams still in it to be seriously thinking about the possibilities. The League Cup in the bag, League looking like a good prospect and the quarter final FA Cup draw is promising, still in the CL league. Leh we see what happens.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 02, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Very good win.

I really happy to see that United taking the League Cup seriously despite the fact that they involved in the bigger competitions. This is a competition that Ferguson paid absolutely no attention to during the 90's.

With that said I think it way too early to start contamplating 4 trophies (I don't really rate the World Championship, it is a more significant title than the Charity Shield and Super Cup, but not by much).

To be completely honest just winning the League and FA Cup to complete a first domestic treble would be a dream. United lost their last 2 FA cup finals and haven't won th ecompetition for 5 years now. i really want to see them win it again but even that will be hard with Chelsea and Arsenal still in the running.

Don't talk for the CL. Not even thinking about that yet becuase it have too many games to play and oo many good teams still in it to be seriously thinking about the possibilities. The League Cup in the bag, League looking like a good prospect and the quarter final FA Cup draw is promising, still in the CL league. Leh we see what happens.


how you could say they now taking the league cup seriously??

funny i remember the year Chelsea take everything, I remember Man Utd celebrate that Carling Cup like they won the World Cup.

Mark my words, Man Utd not winning no Champions league and I would bet against them taking the FA cup.

Allyuh getting on like this side playing ball, but they only benefiting from the mess that is Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool this season. Every game I see they have not looked as good as their record suggests.

They were a much better team last season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 02, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
LOL ok Omar

We werent our best from sep-dec but since the turn of the year we have been top notch... every game we have played with the exception of yesterday and Derby 1-0 loss in the CC we have been very very good

I would rate our current performances as good or even better than last season....

and we've had 5x more injuries this season to cope with and we are going to win the f**king lot

Glory Glory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 02, 2009, 11:58:19 AM

Allyuh getting on like this side playing ball, but they only benefiting from the mess that is Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool this season. Every game I see they have not looked as good as their record suggests.


I agree.

Chelsea and Arsenal only self destructing and giving Man U the EPL title.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 02, 2009, 12:23:56 PM
Very good win.

I really happy to see that United taking the League Cup seriously despite the fact that they involved in the bigger competitions. This is a competition that Ferguson paid absolutely no attention to during the 90's.

With that said I think it way too early to start contamplating 4 trophies (I don't really rate the World Championship, it is a more significant title than the Charity Shield and Super Cup, but not by much).

To be completely honest just winning the League and FA Cup to complete a first domestic treble would be a dream. United lost their last 2 FA cup finals and haven't won th ecompetition for 5 years now. i really want to see them win it again but even that will be hard with Chelsea and Arsenal still in the running.

Don't talk for the CL. Not even thinking about that yet becuase it have too many games to play and oo many good teams still in it to be seriously thinking about the possibilities. The League Cup in the bag, League looking like a good prospect and the quarter final FA Cup draw is promising, still in the CL league. Leh we see what happens.


how you could say they now taking the league cup seriously??

funny i remember the year Chelsea take everything, I remember Man Utd celebrate that Carling Cup like they won the World Cup.

Mark my words, Man Utd not winning no Champions league and I would bet against them taking the FA cup.

Allyuh getting on like this side playing ball, but they only benefiting from the mess that is Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool this season. Every game I see they have not looked as good as their record suggests.

They were a much better team last season.

First thing. I never said that they taking it seriously this year only. I made the reference to the 90's as the time when they were not taking it sreriously. Winning the League Cup against Wigan in 2006 was critical to United getting back in winning ways after going 2 seasons with nothing. And let's be honest United win this trophy without REALLY putting out their best team in every round. They did the same thing last year and the year before and lost to lower division teams. The difference is that this year the squad is more expereineced and there are some very good youths coming through.

As for United this year vs last year. That will always be debatable. I don't think that you could make a case for them being much worse this year becuase Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea are worse. They are picking up similar points in the League a to last year and they are getiing similar results in the Champions League so they can't be as bad as you say.  If you watch the way the team is playing it is a different brand. Less dependent on the pace of Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez. A lot more measured around the box with plenty of the play being funneled through Berbatov. This team keeps possession a lot better.

The squad is also working out much better than last year. Ferguson has done a good job of keeping the team fresh without affecting performances. There is also a lot more confidence in the play and you see more of the players willing to try something different whereas last year that was reserved for Rooney, Ronaldo and Giggs and Scholes when they on form. The same players that allyuh wouldn't want anywhere near allyuh big squad like Fletcher and O'Shea are the players that are getting it done.

As for what will be won. I am the first to admit that winning anything is difficult and the FA Cup and CL are just possibilities right now. You obviously know something that I don't know to predict what they can't win. Tell me what Chelsea winning while yuh looking in yuh crystal ball nah?

At least United win something, Chelsea couldn't even beat shitty Burnley in the Carling, Last year they couldn't beat Barnsley. Chelsea is a damn comedy club. If the season end tomorrow and neither club win another trophy it is pure salt for Chelsea. AGAIN.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 02, 2009, 12:39:24 PM
I think United's style of play is nicer to look at this season than it was last season...Last season it was very centered around getting CR isloated out wide and using him as a spark to create energy, space & movement.  This year to me they work the ball around the field in a more balanced manner and a more steady rhythm...and the influence of Berbatov often slowing the game down has changed the look of their game- for the better IMO, but that's just personal preference. 

As for the quality being better or worse, if it's either it's very marginal.  They are a quality team with almost the same roster, same manager and the same overall philosophy, so unless plagued by severe uncontrollables you wouldn't expect the quality of their game to vary that much.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 02, 2009, 01:08:57 PM
I think United's style of play is nicer to look at this season than it was last season...Last season it was very centered around getting CR isloated out wide and using him as a spark to create energy, space & movement.  This year to me they work the ball around the field in a more balanced manner and a more steady rhythm...and the influence of Berbatov often slowing the game down has changed the look of their game- for the better IMO, but that's just personal preference. 

As for the quality being better or worse, if it's either it's very marginal.  They are a quality team with almost the same roster, same manager and the same overall philosophy, so unless plagued by severe uncontrollables you wouldn't expect the quality of their game to vary that much.   

I agree with just about everything yuh write there. I think it is very hard to say that the team was much better last year. I think that the changes makes the team more versatile and gives them more options because they could still up it to a more frenetic pace when required.

Omar would proably disagree though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 02, 2009, 05:55:45 PM
I think United's style of play is nicer to look at this season than it was last season...Last season it was very centered around getting CR isloated out wide and using him as a spark to create energy, space & movement.  This year to me they work the ball around the field in a more balanced manner and a more steady rhythm...and the influence of Berbatov often slowing the game down has changed the look of their game- for the better IMO, but that's just personal preference. 

As for the quality being better or worse, if it's either it's very marginal.  They are a quality team with almost the same roster, same manager and the same overall philosophy, so unless plagued by severe uncontrollables you wouldn't expect the quality of their game to vary that much.   

I agree with just about everything yuh write there. I think it is very hard to say that the team was much better last year. I think that the changes makes the team more versatile and gives them more options because they could still up it to a more frenetic pace when required.

Omar would proably disagree though.

Damn right I disagree...

I mean, i try to be as objective as possible and I can give United credit this season for a few things.

Firstly, i agree that they have alot of strength in depth this season. The defence is playing exceptionally well despite injures to Neville, Ferdinand and Evra. Also, I really have to take my hat off to Giggs and the way he's reinvented himself in the central midfield role. the man is class.. Also i like the looks of a couple of the youths like Rafael..

However imo, the man utd team of last season at the top of their game was running over teams... i think that you can tie that to the form that Ronaldo was in, but still they always look good to explode on a side. they were scoring more goals and at times the football was scintillating.

This season they are not being tested as they should be.

Chelsea lie down and let them run riot on them.. Liverpool is a joke.. Arsenal is youths... Matter of fact, I would have liked to see them play a top form Aston Villa away to get a proper test of their credentials.

Furthermore, where some of you see a more balanced and measured brand, I see a more deliberate and labored style. Alot of their victories are not convincing. For all the talk about Berbatov, his goal return is poor for a striker leading the line for on a top of the table team. Ronaldo is half the player.. Nani going in reverse and fast. Rooney is probably the same or less effective than last year. Don't worry, you guys will soon see...

I doh blame man utd fans for enjoying the success, but lets not get carried away. When you look at what Barcelona has done for most of this season it is blasphemous to call Man utd the best team in Europe.

Lastly, if this Man Utd team is really that good, I want you to take off the rose tinted glasses and answer this simple question....

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
Last year's team was easier on the eyes. The movement, tempo and not to mention finishing was excellent. last year's team scored some breathe taking goals, especialy on the counter attack. Berbatov has slowed the pace, Ronaldo has half arsed it most of the season and Evra has been out a lot replaced by the plodding but solid Oshea; some of the contributing factors to the lessened pace on the counter attacks. The defense this year is better and it has been the platform for this season's campain. This team, this season is methodical and can definitely play better offensively. Merge last year's offense with this year's defense and nobody will be able to touch that team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 02, 2009, 07:00:55 PM

Damn right I disagree...

I mean, i try to be as objective as possible and I can give United credit this season for a few things.

Firstly, i agree that they have alot of strength in depth this season. The defence is playing exceptionally well despite injures to Neville, Ferdinand and Evra. Also, I really have to take my hat off to Giggs and the way he's reinvented himself in the central midfield role. the man is class.. Also i like the looks of a couple of the youths like Rafael..

However imo, the man utd team of last season at the top of their game was running over teams... i think that you can tie that to the form that Ronaldo was in, but still they always look good to explode on a side. they were scoring more goals and at times the football was scintillating.


This season they are not being tested as they should be.

Chelsea lie down and let them run riot on them.. Liverpool is a joke.. Arsenal is youths... Matter of fact, I would have liked to see them play a top form Aston Villa away to get a proper test of their credentials.

Furthermore, where some of you see a more balanced and measured brand, I see a more deliberate and labored style. Alot of their victories are not convincing. For all the talk about Berbatov, his goal return is poor for a striker leading the line for on a top of the table team. Ronaldo is half the player.. Nani going in reverse and fast. Rooney is probably the same or less effective than last year. Don't worry, you guys will soon see...

I doh blame man utd fans for enjoying the success, but lets not get carried away. When you look at what Barcelona has done for most of this season it is blasphemous to call Man utd the best team in Europe.

Lastly, if this Man Utd team is really that good, I want you to take off the rose tinted glasses and answer this simple question....

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?

You might be right Omar but yuh getting a lil carried away. 

First off I thought we were talking about about Man this season vs Man U last season...How does a comparison to Barcelona come into it?  And the talk about M U being the best in Europe? 

Next playing  better defensively is part of playing better....

Next the picture that you paint in that bolded part above is bit exaggerated as well.  I did some research

At this point in the season last season Man U:

58 points
Goal difference of +36
Scored 50 goals
Were shut out 2 times
Had 6 games where they scored 3 or more goals
Had 6 games where they won by 3 or more goals

This season, to date Man U:

61 points
Goal difference of +35
Scored 46 goals
Were shut out 2 times
Had 6 games where they scored 3 or more goals
Had 5 games where they won by 3 or more goals

I like Man U's team game more this season than last to me it's more balanced and less reliant on CR...some would prefer their game last season over this season...it was quicker, and arguably more explosive because CR was on fire... whether they end up as good this season as last is up in the air...winning CL is no easy feat so the stakes are very high and they will probably not end up there, but like I said in my last post- which is clearly supported by the facts- better or worse, the difference is very marginal.  I think you're letting an underperforming big 4 (the other 3) take the shine off Man U's football which has been steady and consistent- as it was last season...with at most a marginal difference in quality. 

That said I think Inter is poised to put a spoke in their wheel against the odds...gettin' a jumbie feelin'... 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on March 02, 2009, 07:23:36 PM
FEATHERDUSTERS FOR SALE
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 02, 2009, 07:28:01 PM
FEATHERDUSTERS FOR SALE

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 02, 2009, 08:40:31 PM
Foster in the clear after using iPod during final
By Mike Collett

LONDON, March 2 (Reuters) - The English FA will take no action against Manchester United or goalkeeper Ben Foster for using an iPod during Sunday’s League Cup final against Tottenham Hotspur, it said on Monday.

Foster watched videos of Spurs players taking penalties on an iPod and then saved from Jamie O’Hara as United lifted the cup after winning the penalty shootout 4-1 following their goalless draw at Wembley Stadium.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter has resisted the use of any form of video technology, especially to determine if the ball has crossed the goalline, for many years. But the idea of using an iPod as a tactical aid is new and not against the laws of the game.

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll told the Daily Mail on Monday that using iPod technology “had the potential to exploit a loophole in the laws which should be referred to FIFA”.

An FA spokesman said: “What happened was not against the rules so we will not be investigating the matter further.”

Spurs were last involved in a penalty shootout a year ago when they lost to PSV Eindhoven in the UEFA Cup.

In that game, O’Hara fired a shot to the left of the goalkeeper and on Sunday he sent Tottenham’s first penalty the same way and Foster saved.

“Just before the shootout I was looking at an iPod with goalkeeping coach Eric Steele and it contained images of Tottenham’s players taking penalties,” Foster said.

“They told me for Jamie O’Hara I should stand up and be strong and he would probably go the way he did. I have done a lot of research before but this is an innovation we have brought in at the club.” (Editing by Sonia Oxley)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on March 02, 2009, 09:50:30 PM
now allyuh explain this to mi. i didnt watch the carling cup final. i only saw the penalty kicks. now jus b4 they started it woulld have been nice if u all observed the manu players and the spurs players. manu weher e like yeah we up 4 this we going to win this thing and spurs were like well we put in a good fight but we lose. B4 1 PK WAS KICKED? that doesnt make sense to me
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2009, 05:43:27 AM
now allyuh explain this to mi. i didnt watch the carling cup final. i only saw the penalty kicks. now jus b4 they started it woulld have been nice if u all observed the manu players and the spurs players. manu weher e like yeah we up 4 this we going to win this thing and spurs were like well we put in a good fight but we lose. B4 1 PK WAS KICKED? that doesnt make sense to me

Yeah I peeps that.  I was checkin out how both teams were  standing; United players had their arms draped across each others shoulders whereas Spurs players some hand their hands on each other shoulders others had their arms crossed/folded across their bodies. The Spurs palyers were dispelling some rell negative body language.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 03, 2009, 09:19:28 AM
Can United win all five?(FIFA.com) Tuesday 3 March 2009

In the days where 'recession', 'credit crunch' and 'global economic crisis' are on everyone's minds and lips, a different word is buzzing around the thoughts of football fans in Britain at the moment: ‘quintuple.' It's enough to set Manchester United supporters' hearts racing and fans of their rival teams into despair.

So, what exactly is this quintuple? Well, the Red Devils have 'two down and three to go.' They've already won the FIFA Club World Cup in December, thanks to their victory over Liga de Quito and on Sunday, defeated Tottenham Hotspur on penalties to lift the League Cup.

The Red Devils have the chance to go ten points clear of nearest challengers Chelsea and Liverpool at the top of the Premier League if they win their game in hand against Portsmouth, face Fulham away in the quarter-finals of the FA Cup and have home advantage against Inter Milan in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League.

But 'quintuple' is a word that is driving Sir Alex Ferguson crazy for different reasons. "I'm not getting carried away with it, only the media will," he said. "We will keep our feet on the ground.

"We do not speak about that stuff [the quintuple]. We'll take each game as it comes. We don't get ahead of ourselves and think of which silverware we are going to win next. We could go to Fulham in the FA Cup, the ball comes off someone's backside and we are out of that one."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 03, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
Newcastle vs Utd(Wed 4th March on Setanta at 2:45pm ET...3:45TT Time)

Wazza is Back for Newcastle:
Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Wayne Rooney has shaken off a virus to be available for Manchester United's trip to Newcastle United.

Rooney missed Sunday's Carling Cup win over Tottenham Hotspur due to illness, but has trained on Monday and Tuesday.

He will be in the squad for Wednesday's game at St James' Park and the striker could renew his partnership with Dimitar Berbatov up front.

Ferguson said on Sky Sports News: "He's fine. He trained yesterday, he trained today and he will be available for tomorrow."

John O'Shea is United's only injury worry for the game after the versatile Irishman was substituted in the Carling Cup final due to an ongoing heel problem.
Tough game

"We took him off on Sunday as he's still got a problem with his heel," said Ferguson.

"It settled down after a day or so, and we will put some new insoles in his boot to see if that helps.

"He should be okay and, other than that, everyone is fine for tomorrow and we look forward to a very tough game."

Berbatov, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher and Park Ji-sung are all expected to return to the United team, with Ferguson admitting the Wembley pitch had an impact on the players who faced Spurs.

He added: "It was a heavy pitch, surprisingly heavy. You associate Wembley with a fantastic playing surface, but as you all saw, it was heavy and it was greasy with players slipping a lot.

"It took its toll on the players, we had tired players by the end of the match, but we have some freshness tomorrow.

"We've got Dimitar, we've got Michael Carrick and Anderson, who didn't play a full game. We've got Darren Fletcher, Ji-sung Park and Wayne Rooney, so we're not so bad."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_4998452,00.html


So it looks like Ronaldo will be given a place on the bench....he's played alot over the past month

-------------------VDS---

Nev/O'shea---Rio----Vidic-----Evra/Fabio

Park-------Carrick----Fletcher----Anderson/Giggs

-----------Rooney----Berba

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 03, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
under all this talk ah realize nobody eh touching meh question.... Once again, if this man utd so great......

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 03, 2009, 11:58:43 AM
under all this talk ah realize nobody eh touching meh question.... Once again, if this man utd so great......

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?

I thought the talk was about last season's Man U to this season's Man U.... so I didn't think that question was even relevant....unless yuh saying that last season's Man U coulda beaten the Chelsea of 05/06.  (I don't know how one could even determine that)...

But to address yuh question,...."honestly think" ? lol  you serious?....Wid dem two words alone I could assure yuh that you will get no where with that question.... Some will say yes, and some will say no... Where does that leave you?

My 2 cents- From what I remember the Chelsea of 05/06 lost to Man U away & beat Man U at home.. Was the Man U of 05/06 that more special than the Man U of this season?  I don't remember, but if they weren't (which is a reasonable guess because they crashed out in the CL group stage in a group with Benfica, Lille & Villareal- I think they only won one game...and lost to Liverpool in one of the FA Cup rounds...not too flaterring), then the answer to your question would have to be yes...honestly? yes...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
under all this talk ah realize nobody eh touching meh question.... Once again, if this man utd so great......

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?

Yes! I am not saying that because I support United. I think the this team is better defensively, the midfield is better and the forwards more experienced, compared to the United team from that season. United were unable to compete with Chelski in midfield. I believe we started that season with Fortune on the wing, a broken down Keane in midfield and a raw Ronaldo and Rooney, Silvestre and Henzie in defence. Today's team will be able to do a better job of neutralizing Chelski's strengths while generating their own attacks. The biggest difference would be the matching of mentalities. I feel United will be able to match Chelski's winning mentality and win at all cost attitude. It would be a great match up- with each team winning on it's own turf.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 03, 2009, 12:44:34 PM
under all this talk ah realize nobody eh touching meh question.... Once again, if this man utd so great......

Do you honestly think this Man Utd team could beat the Mourinho's double title winning Chelsea team of a few years ago?

As kicker rightly say it is an irrelevant question. More than that though it is a question that anybody could answer how they want. You obviously feel that side was SOOOO much better, but there really is no way to say.

On a footballing basis that side run over the league but it was typical hard-running Mourinho football, nothing spectacular. The same criticism yuh placing on this United side i.e. quality of big 4 opposition also applies to that side.

United a weaker side and squad than today by a good bit (Howard, Fortune, Richardson, Smith, Saha, Heinze, Miller, Silvestre - All good players but all with their flaws compared to the current squad). Arsenal had started their rebuilding and Liverpool is Liverpool. You could argue that the big 4 is better now becuase all 4 English teams are competitive in Europe when that was not the case back then.

That is a shit argument that you could never conclusively win and if a large pool of people was polled you would most likely lose.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 03, 2009, 12:52:18 PM
That said I think Inter is poised to put a spoke in their wheel against the odds...gettin' a jumbie feelin'... 

I have a similar feeling.

I think they good enough to go through but they really shoulda punish Inter last week. there ar eseveral omens that not noce

1. It not easy to shut out a big team over two legs which means that an Inter goal over 90 minutes is not unlikely. That means United really needs to target 2 goals and a win which is not easy becuase this Inter side has proved that they are hard to beat.

2. 0-0 away is a bad scoreline for United. Went out to both Monaco and Real Madrid on the back of 0-0 away draws while chasing the game at home.

3. Holders have a hard time in the CL fo rsome reason and they all tend to go out around the 2nd round.

4. Inter are unlikely to present th egift that is Rivas after last week's game.

On the positive side. Vidic will be back. Barring injuries tomorrow or Saturday the side will be fit and the side is playing well. If the last game is any indication, United is the better side than Inter and should win it, if they play to potential. The game will be pressure to wach though, like the Barcelona game was last year.

I still think this one is a 50-50, could go either way affair.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 04, 2009, 08:30:31 AM
any links fuh today's game?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 04, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
any links fuh today's game?

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
Official Starting XI

VDS

O'Shea
Rio
Vida
Evra

Ronaldo
Carrick
Fletch
Park

Wazza
Berba

Subs: Foster..Eckersley..Evans...Scholes..Ando..Giggs..Tevez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 01:50:56 PM
any links fuh today's game?
check here
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=31334&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 01:55:10 PM
 :o :o VDS record has come to an end
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on March 04, 2009, 02:03:29 PM
Lets Go Magpies...goal in dey pwefin
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 02:06:26 PM
Shrek brings it level  :applause: :applause:

the MOST amazing thing is that for most appeals that swan dive boy makes the ref gives it to him
AND as SOON as he was told that the newcastle player was getting a yellow he JUMPED to feck back up ONE time ::) ::)
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 04, 2009, 02:38:44 PM
newcastle should be down to 10 men
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 02:41:56 PM
newcastle should be down to 10 men
yeah when I saw the replay I thought red card for sure
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 04, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
newcastle should be down to 10 men


Doh worry it  comin second half.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 04, 2009, 02:59:39 PM
steups......

the ref stupid or something?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 04, 2009, 03:02:45 PM
steups......

the ref stupid or something?

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 03:03:09 PM
berba 2-1
Rooney did good at centre back ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 04, 2009, 03:04:10 PM
Justice  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on March 04, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
finally manu concede ah goal dread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 04, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
Justice  ;D

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 04, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
Martins causing real problems for Evra and Ferdinand.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 04, 2009, 03:09:47 PM
finally manu concede ah goal dread
small ting,onward to victoree.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 04, 2009, 03:14:19 PM
ent black burn score against we week b4?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 04, 2009, 03:14:45 PM
2-1 order is restored.... but is sure fun to let the peasants dream  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 04, 2009, 03:21:26 PM
ent black burn score against we week b4?
different keeper
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 04, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
get to KCUF up man :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 04, 2009, 03:47:54 PM
on ah side note spurs rippin middlesborough ah new ass.leadin 4 nil in de 85th.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2009, 03:52:36 PM
Sign of Champions....well done lads...great spirit and class to win that one

Good show by Newcastle  :beermug:  ....hopefully they dont roll over and die vs Chelsea or Liverpool.... seems like everyone is always up for us...but we're the Champions and the best team in the world so its understandable

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
2 - NIL HALF TIME  :devil: tevez 2 goals

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?&matchid=31905&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 07, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
2 - NIL HALF TIME  :devil: tevez 2 goals

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?&matchid=31905&part=sports



Die Hard, I will be in Trinidad for the CL game this week, will you be going somewhere to watch the match?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2009, 12:28:36 PM
2 - NIL HALF TIME  :devil: tevez 2 goals

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?&matchid=31905&part=sports



Die Hard, I will be in Trinidad for the CL game this week, will you be going somewhere to watch the match?

dread i not sure i go be near a tv nah i might have to listen on radio i rel vex. i have to go out in the evening  >:(

on another note 3nil rooney  :heehee:


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 07, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
It is SUCH a pleasure to watch ManU without swan dive boy on the pitch

Buss dem Shrek and Tevez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 07, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
manchester go pump 2 more in they backside.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2009, 01:10:46 PM
GLORY GLORY 4-0  :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 07, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
fulham get proper bull today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 07, 2009, 01:44:16 PM
Fulham could do nothing right today and Man United took advantage of that. Let's see how this will transfer to next week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 07, 2009, 10:29:23 PM
Dey get good wood LOL....Glory Glory ManU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 08, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
FA CUP draw:

SEMI-FINAL DRAW:
Arsenal/Hull v Chelsea
Man Utd v Everton


 :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 08, 2009, 02:02:14 PM
it favor we,but neva underestimate everton.onto de final and trophy no.3. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 10, 2009, 06:47:53 PM
Big game 2moro boys....time to stamp our authority

We are the Champions! Champions of the World! Dont let anyone tell you otherwise....Time to get the respect we deserve from all football fans

Wherever your watching...Home..Pub..Old Trafford

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 11, 2009, 09:26:14 PM
No Way Jose  ;D

Manchester United booked their place in the UEFA Champions League quarter-finals after defeating Inter Milan 2-0 at Old Trafford.

The European Cup holders scored two goals within the first four minutes of each half as Sir Alex Ferguson recorded only his second win over Jose Mourinho.

Nemanja Vidic headed past Julio Cesar from a Ryan Giggs corner after just fout minutes, before Cristiano Ronaldo sealed the win just after the interval when he too nodded home after good work by Wayne Rooney.

United did not have it all their own way, however, as Inter, much improved from the first leg, hit the woodwork twice through Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Adriano.

United began the game confidently and looked to get Ronaldo on the ball as much as possible in a bid to take advantage of the inexperienced Davide Santon at left-back.

It was an early foray down the right hand side form the Portuguese winger, which earned his side a corner, which brought about the opening goal.

Giggs trotted across to whip the ball in and he found Vidic, who took advantage of some slack marking by Patrick Vieira, to power a header past Cesar.

United could have doubled their lead on 18 minutes when Giggs got in behind Maicon but, with only Dimitar Berbatov to aim for, his cross was cut out by Walter Samuel as the referee waved away protests of hand ball.

Berbatov had been a doubt immediately before kick-off after going over on his ankle in the warm-up, but the Bulgarian appeared to have shaken off the problem as he looked lively early on.
Over confident

The hosts began to look over confident as both Giggs and Paul Scholes were guilty of giving the ball away in dangerous areas.

The Welshman's misplaced flick halfway inside the Inter half nearly led to the visitors equalising just before the half-hour mark.

In United's desperation to win the ball back they gave away a free-kick just inside their own half. Maicon crossed and Ibrahimovic headed downwards at the far post only to see his header come back off the bar with Edwin Van der Sar beaten.

Mourinho's men had settled well since their early set-back as the home side went through a sloppy spell ten minutes before the break.

Inter midfielder Dejan Stankovic nearly made them pay when he hit a shot from all of 30 yards that swerved just wide of Van der Sar's left-hand post, with the Dutchman scrambling across his goal.

But United came back and should have made it two on 37 minutes when Giggs drifted in from the right and found Rooney, whose first-time pass cut open the Inter defence and found John O'Shea bearing down on goal, but his effort was saved by Cesar.

Inter immediately went up the other end, with Mario Balotelli mirroring what Rooney had done moments earlier when he duly sliced open the home defence with a first-time pass which sent Ibrahimovic through, but his fierce drive across goal went just wide.

Inter began the second half as brightly as they ended the first as Sulley Muntari came on for Vieira but it was United who got the game's next goal four minutes into the second period.

Influential

Giggs was again influential as he left a number of Inter players in his wake as he dribbled infield from the right before finding Scholes, who in turn fed Rooney on the left corner of the area.

The 23-year-old teased Maicon before floating a dangerous in-swinging ball with his right foot which was met by Ronaldo, who got their before Cesar, to head into the unguarded net.

Inter were momentarily shaken but began to find their rhythm again just before the hour as Mourinho went for broke by sacrificing Stankovic for Adriano.

The Brazilian produced a moment of magic seconds later when he linked up with Esteban Cambiasso and volleyed left footed, on the stretch, against the post.

Sir Alex Ferguson's men responded and should have put the game out of sight on 59 minutes when Cesar parried a long range Rooney drive straight to Giggs, who laid the ball off to Berbatov but his shot from five yards was smothered by the keeper.

Mourinho made his final substitution of the night with Luis Figo replacing Balotelli, while Ferguson brought Anderson on for Scholes as he looked to close the game out.

But it was the visitors who continued to press as United struggled to keep possession of the ball, however, wayward long-distance attempts from Ibrahimovic and Adriano undermined their impressive approach play.

The Swede may have pulled a goal back had he committed himself to Muntari's deep left-wing cross on 75 minutes. Instead he did not react quickly enough after the ball went over Patrice Evra's head and rebounded off his chest for a goal kick.

Manchester United   Team Statistics   Internazionale
2   Goals   0
1   1st Half Goals   0
8   Shots on Target   3
6   Shots off Target   11
3   Blocked Shots   0
3   Corners   3
13   Fouls   16
3   Offsides   1
1   Yellow Cards   2
0   Red Cards   0
81.2   Passing Success   81.1
5   Tackles   18
60   Tackles Success   77.8
55.6   Possession   44.4
44.6   Territorial Advantage   55.4

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 12, 2009, 04:33:13 AM
i wonder if all the moruhnio adorers on this site gone back we to win too  :devil: WE DOH WHA ALLYUH! RIDE OUT  :devil:

Mourinho backs Man Utd glory hunt

Inter Milan coach Jose Mourinho believes Manchester United can complete the quintuple this season.

United reached the Champions League quarter-finals by knocking out Inter on Wednesday and Mourinho said: "Right now they're at their maximum level.

"They have experience, quality, great physical condition and intensity in their game.

"That's why they're European champions. That is why they can win everything. I think they can win five trophies."

United are a quality team and showed against us exactly why they are European champions
Jose Mourinho
United have already won the Fifa Club World Cup and the Carling Cup and the 2-0 aggregate victory over Inter keeps Sir Alex Ferguson's side on course to retain the Champions League.

The Red Devils are seven points clear in the Premier League and are also in the semi-finals of the FA Cup.

Mourinho added: "United have worked together for five consecutive years. They were a young side but are not young anymore.

"They have basically the same team as when I was at Chelsea. Only Dimitar Berbatov is new.

"United are a quality team and showed against us exactly why they are European champions. You have to say they deserved to win."

After a goalless draw in the San Siro a fortnight ago, Nemanja Vidic gave United the lead after four minutes before Cristiano Ronaldo headed United's second just after the break.

But Inter also had their chances and hit the woodwork twice.


Seven DevL
"They scored two goals over the course of the two games and we have to accept that, in football, the team that wins always deserves it but I don't think we should be negative about my team's display," stated Mourinho.

"We played a great match against a great team. We just lacked that little bit of luck you need to win, that little thing that makes that difference between winning and not winning.

"We went one down after a couple of minutes but we had three chances to score in the first half, more than our opponents, and we hit the bar from three metres out.

"In the second half we lost another goal but we continued to play and we showed great character."

Mourinho is confident his side will bounce back from the disappointment and go on to seal a fourth consecutive Serie A title.

They are currently top of the table, seven points clear of second-placed Juventus.

"We have not been good enough to win the Champions League but we are good enough to win the Scudetto and I'm sure we will go on and win it," he said.

Mourinho also revealed he would be telling Inter president Massimo Moratti what needs to be done to make Inter a match for the likes of United.

"You can't just turn up and expect to win the Champions League just like that," he commented.

"One way is to spend a huge amount of money, which we know is not realistic in the current climate. The second way is to build a team over the course of time.

"Chelsea lost three semis before getting to last year's final. It is a process and getting to the top is a consequence of the hard work you put in."

United can tighten their grip on the Premier League by beating title rivals Liverpool at Old Trafford on Saturday.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/europe/7938770.stm

Published: 2009/03/12 08:04:15 GMT

© BBC MMIX
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 12, 2009, 07:12:57 AM
he succumb now to de greatness that is manchester united.let jose haul he ass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 12, 2009, 09:11:01 AM
Wood.............Nexttttttttt................ :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2009, 08:44:36 AM
ManU goin an Fulham day net wid GOALS ;D
day go Fulham ManU wid GOALS ;D  :-[ :-[
2 nuffen now :devil:

I hope BraveHeart rests Swan Dive Boy as I eh able watch he today  :devil:
not only is my "MAN"  ::) playin, Rooney in on the bench :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 21, 2009, 09:50:44 AM
Nice..come on Fulham....put tears in Manure eyes..for ah 2nd week..dey cant play without Vidic.... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 21, 2009, 09:51:26 AM
United playing shit, Ronaldo needs to get sub. rest him for a couple games.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on March 21, 2009, 09:56:09 AM
I need Ronaldo to score as he is meh fantasy league capt..

But I want Fulham cut they arse.

Come on Fulham..sorfen dem.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on March 21, 2009, 10:48:33 AM
2nd goal... ;D

Rooney OFF... :rotfl:

I LOVE IT!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2009, 10:49:05 AM
Game done....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 21, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
this is toal crap.only consolation is spurs hopefully will beat chelsea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2009, 10:54:15 AM
it took 45 years
good game Fulham
Rooney Rooney Rooney
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 11:03:06 AM
Another week of shit! Enjoy while you can haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: LondonTrini LFC on March 21, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
2nd goal... ;D

Rooney OFF... :rotfl:

I LOVE IT!!!!
:beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2009, 11:04:42 AM
Cheers Fulham... we deserved to be beaten today

once again Fergie got his team selection wrong...

I think Spurs and Villa are going to beat Chelsea and Liverpool... but even if they(pool and chelski) win I am not too bothered as they will slip up eventually as well...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 21, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
Again we are seeing the real temperament of Rooney if Any..when he aint winning...its shows...a little boy without marbles..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2009, 11:26:23 AM
You all are the most useless supporters I ever see. Always and excuse...always.    :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 21, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on March 21, 2009, 11:46:10 AM
Hardluck today Man U
hey how things over here btw?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2009, 11:56:33 AM
Hardluck today Man U
hey how things over here btw?  :devil:
ask dem after de Liverpuddle game in de mornin :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
You all are the most useless supporters I ever see. Always and excuse...always.    :'(

Go and macco yuh own shit side and leave ours alone!  :devil: Doh be over here hidin goh and show yuh face on yuh Chelski forever thread!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 21, 2009, 12:01:46 PM
dat good

phoq wid dey confidence, more licks to come in the CL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 21, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 12:19:26 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.

Today would have been a good game tuh play Fabio. Fergie do shit startin two lofas like Ronaldo and Berbatov up front. You always need tuh have one hustle man when either of them startin. Like Nani could only play Cups or what? Ronaldo need someone like Keane tuh be in his face tuh stop that shit he does be doing on the field! Utterly selfish, I am dying for someone tuh get in his face and put him in his place on the field!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
Dont press the panic button just yet lads... Liverf**kup will not be getting 3 points tomorrow

Secondly..even if they do they will still be a point behind with 1 game played more...

It is a bad run of form but with this break and some soul searching to be done..we will be fine and win the lot

Glory Glory Man Utd

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on March 21, 2009, 12:33:07 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.

Today would have been a good game tuh play Fabio. Fergie do shit startin two lofas like Ronaldo and Berbatov up front. You always need tuh have one hustle man when either of them startin. Like Nani could only play Cups or what? Ronaldo need someone like Keane tuh be in his face tuh stop that shit he does be doing on the field! Utterly selfish, I am dying for someone tuh get in his face and put him in his place on the field!
thats a good point and yes do it on the field :beermug:
he shoulda been sent off for that dive in on Murhpy
same should be done to Rooney, i mean he passioante but he has too many unecessary tantrums
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 21, 2009, 12:37:51 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.

Today would have been a good game tuh play Fabio. Fergie do shit startin two lofas like Ronaldo and Berbatov up front. You always need tuh have one hustle man when either of them startin. Like Nani could only play Cups or what? Ronaldo need someone like Keane tuh be in his face tuh stop that shit he does be doing on the field! Utterly selfish, I am dying for someone tuh get in his face and put him in his place on the field!



Ronaldo needs to watch a few games.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 21, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.

Today would have been a good game tuh play Fabio. Fergie do shit startin two lofas like Ronaldo and Berbatov up front. You always need tuh have one hustle man when either of them startin. Like Nani could only play Cups or what? Ronaldo need someone like Keane tuh be in his face tuh stop that shit he does be doing on the field! Utterly selfish, I am dying for someone tuh get in his face and put him in his place on the field!



Ronaldo needs to watch a few games.

Ah think Fergie sellin out by puttin up with his shit because he wants tuh win! I cannot wait tuh hear how he really feels about him after United sell his arse! Is one thing for us tuh be losing but tuh watch his antics as we doing it makes it worse! I was more disgusted with his f**king attitude that anything else and that is saying a lot because the whole side was pants! When Berbatov get so slow? He runnin like somebody askin him tuh carry United! I wonder if he healthy?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on March 21, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
tsk tsk manu now is not the time to go on a sour run
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
is a good thing i was sick today and sleep through this thank god   :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 21, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
we will persevere
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 21, 2009, 03:39:38 PM
Plenty men beating up theyself for no reason.

This is a dip to be sure and it not looking nice but it happens. It happen to Barca last month and  now is United time. Better now than at the end of the season. Hopefully the international break will give everybody a chance to get their shit together.

The race back on for sure but Liverpool show that they have problems playing teams who willing to sit back against them. It will be hard for them to make a serious run with that one striker football they does play.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 21, 2009, 06:03:59 PM
No worries, I just see de game and I say WTF.  I not worried Glory Glory MAN UNITED ................ :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on March 21, 2009, 06:06:38 PM
C'mon fergie give dem the ole


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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on March 21, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
Defense starting to look tired. Evra needs a rest. Time to start playing Fabio.

Today would have been a good game tuh play Fabio. Fergie do shit startin two lofas like Ronaldo and Berbatov up front. You always need tuh have one hustle man when either of them startin. Like Nani could only play Cups or what? Ronaldo need someone like Keane tuh be in his face tuh stop that shit he does be doing on the field! Utterly selfish, I am dying for someone tuh get in his face and put him in his place on the field!





Ronaldo needs to watch a few games.

Ah think Fergie sellin out by puttin up with his shit because he wants tuh win! I cannot wait tuh hear how he really feels about him after United sell his arse! Is one thing for us tuh be losing but tuh watch his antics as we doing it makes it worse! I was more disgusted with his f**king attitude that anything else and that is saying a lot because the whole side was pants! When Berbatov get so slow? He runnin like somebody askin him tuh carry United! I wonder if he healthy?


is about time he gets the beckham treatment, or even the rooney" ah toaster....ah flipping toaster" thrown behind him lol. Giggs to soft as a captain at time, Ferdinand would raise his voice an pull him up, Neville would to, thank God Keane not there still.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 22, 2009, 06:47:01 AM
dat good

phoq wid dey confidence, more licks to come in the CL

u study that Bayern gone deal with allyuh. Them is not to sorfie La liga side eh :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2009, 08:03:08 AM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 22, 2009, 11:52:04 AM
Hardluck today Man U
hey how things over here btw?  :devil:
ask dem after de Liverpuddle game in de mornin :devil:
soooooooooooooooo
how we doin today :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on March 22, 2009, 11:57:34 AM
Hardluck today Man U
hey how things over here btw?  :devil:
ask dem after de Liverpuddle game in de mornin :devil:
soooooooooooooooo
how we doin today :devil:
listen we still leadin by ah point with 1 game in hand.untie de knot in yuh knickers. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: LondonTrini LFC on March 22, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
Dont press the panic button just yet lads... Liverf**kup will not be getting 3 points tomorrow

Secondly..even if they do they will still be a point behind with 1 game played more...

It is a bad run of form but with this break and some soul searching to be done..we will be fine and win the lot

Glory Glory Man Utd



allyuh lorse yesterday... we demolish allyuh las' week...

it look like it goin' to de wire boy...

Berba sick or wha?...

no Vidic for 2 more games and no Rooney or Scholes for 3...

Allyuh could drop more points... remember allyuh eh need to lose games yuh know... just draw dem and we go see...

(4 on allyuh own grong and 2 away = 6 shipped over 2 games... waaaaaaaaaaaay...)

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 22, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
Hardluck today Man U
hey how things over here btw?  :devil:
ask dem after de Liverpuddle game in de mornin :devil:
soooooooooooooooo
how we doin today :devil:
listen we still leadin by ah point with 1 game in hand.untie de knot in yuh knickers. ;D
ah tryin ah ting since my team ent goin nowhere but down it seems  :P
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 22, 2009, 12:10:21 PM
yuh see wha ah does cyah take bout Ferguson...

Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney were both sent off by referee Phil Dowd - Scholes in the 17th minute for handling a Bobby Zamora header on the goal line and substitute Rooney for a second bookable offence.

The latter dismissal frustrated Ferguson, who added on MUTV: "Did he (Rooney) throw the ball at the referee? The ball was thrown direct to where the free-kick was being taken - did it hit the referee? No.

"He threw it because he wanted to get the game going. What can you say about that?


???

Rooney screw up he pan, take the ball and frankoment scooch it quite into the next half.. That was a clear cut yellow card if there ever was one. Fergie is a friggin hypocrite.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 22, 2009, 12:45:45 PM
Just looked at highlights.

How Ronaldo did not get a red for that lunge tackle he made. Studs, up and everything? That's worst than Avery tackle vs Sweden. Plus all the ranting and raving he did. You cannot tell me Man United don't get favoured.


Was Scholes trying to show VDS how to make the save.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 22, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
Just looked at highlights.

How Ronaldo did not get a red for that lunge tackle he made. Studs, up and everything? That's worst than Avery tackle vs Sweden. Plus all the ranting and raving he did. You cannot tell me Man United don't get favoured.


Was Scholes trying to show VDS how to make the save.  :devil:

ent liverpool just past allyuh?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 22, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
Just looked at highlights.

How Ronaldo did not get a red for that lunge tackle he made. Studs, up and everything? That's worst than Avery tackle vs Sweden. Plus all the ranting and raving he did. You cannot tell me Man United don't get favoured.


Was Scholes trying to show VDS how to make the save.  :devil:

ent liverpool just past allyuh?

But we was not crying on the field.......we tried to figure it out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 26, 2009, 09:55:50 AM
All yuh make out this fan in the papers today.

Hint: He does cuss for everything, he go probably cuss when he see this thread and all.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/cussbud.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 26, 2009, 10:06:10 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil: shhhh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 05, 2009, 09:03:50 AM
aye aye aye

match start
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 09:19:02 AM
aston villa boy wow stupidity squared , the back pass is 1 and then  friedel position on the indirect geez boy . common sense really lacking.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 05, 2009, 09:29:57 AM
aston villa boy wow stupidity squared , the back pass is 1 and then  friedel position on the indirect geez boy . common sense really lacking.



Ent! what was Friedel thinking on his positioning  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2009, 09:31:41 AM
aston villa boy wow stupidity squared , the back pass is 1 and then  friedel position on the indirect geez boy . common sense really lacking.

Friedel have to blame for that all around.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 05, 2009, 09:32:40 AM
beautiful superman save by VDS

buh eh eh
who do AV tink they are?
nice equaliser
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 05, 2009, 09:34:05 AM
^^^
the side that just equalise


WHO THE F**K IS MAN UTD.
(maybe Trinidad's defenders in disguise)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2009, 09:44:02 AM
Ashley Young moving real greedy in this game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
ppl does want to point out caribbean footballers as being lazy. allyuh watch ashley young on the defence eh. and villa playing 2 strikers so it car b he playing a withdrawn striker
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:08:28 AM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=34532&part=sports

links
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2009, 10:19:16 AM
Oh dear! What can the matter be?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
wtf  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2009, 10:24:52 AM
You gain an appreciation for just how good Vidic and Ferdinand are when you see what going on in the back today.

But all these Aston Villa injuries will just mean Man U get 6 minutes of stoppage time to equalize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 05, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
movin on up ;D

AV doin good in 5th
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 10:35:53 AM
enter reo-coker manu surely getting a penalty
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:40:11 AM
goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllll
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
Ronaldo  :devil: :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 10:41:37 AM
expected manu to score a 2nd goal aston villa lost the plot they were jus kicking away d ball like mad men . if u want to keep yuh opponents out ah d game all u have 2 do is keep d ball, not so easy buh still
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 10:44:53 AM
Aston villa players really showing ah low football IQ in theiir decision making dread. playing right into manu hands. man u should win this game now.

i hope not :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 05, 2009, 10:46:25 AM
You gain an appreciation for just how good Vidic and Ferdinand are when you see what going on in the back today.


   but ent vidic singlehandedly give de liverpool game away?


Aston villa players realing showing ah low football IQ in theiir decision making dread. playing right into mau hands man u should win this game now.

i hope not :devil:

  I was thinking the same thing even before the second equalizer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 05, 2009, 10:52:16 AM
I know that!

Villa is a stupid side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:53:07 AM
goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllll yuh mudder
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 05, 2009, 10:53:11 AM
Mike Davis is a fraud.
5 mins of ET?


just because Fergie tap is watch?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:53:27 AM
ah cah believe it   :o :o :o :o :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: that italian is a boss

facccckkkkk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: samo on April 05, 2009, 10:54:27 AM
Nice goal, but 5 mins extra time   ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:55:06 AM
ah supporter crying for man u  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 05, 2009, 10:55:31 AM
Wow!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 05, 2009, 10:55:45 AM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:56:09 AM
ah luv this forking team , yuh hear meh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 05, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
WAIT what happen there
I left for 10 minutes and came back and its all over
derailment?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 05, 2009, 10:56:37 AM
ah supporter crying for man u  ::)

I want to guess that that's his father/brother.  They resemble and he ran straight to him after he scored.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 05, 2009, 10:56:59 AM
lol   the 5 mins thing ridiculous but it good for villa. i sorry 4 them , blame liverpool for thrashing their confidence. was a great winner though
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:57:45 AM
WAIT what happen there
I left for 10 minutes and its all over

yuh done know  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Marcos on April 05, 2009, 10:58:13 AM
woooooooooooooooooooooooooo
what a game
EPL run tings without a doubt
quality through and through

how about ronaldo eh hug up d man after he outshone him with that spectacular goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 05, 2009, 10:58:24 AM
I know that!

Villa is a stupid side.

   The first goal alone is proof of that.  Brad Freidel clearly called/waved the defender off the ball and the imps still play de ball back towards the 'keeper.    
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 10:59:26 AM
bosssss goal , i just see a classic  8) long live MANCHESTER UNITED
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 05, 2009, 11:00:05 AM
ah supporter crying for man u  ::)

I want to guess that that's his father/brother.  They resemble and he ran straight to him after he scored.

Yeh had to be, the man was rel emotional, i could understand the feelings
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 05, 2009, 11:00:37 AM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

What can you say ManU has a WINNING mentality!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 05, 2009, 11:03:58 AM
Dais why Fergie is ah boss manager...he bring on ah 17yr old and de man score ah beauty to win de game.... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 05, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

What can you say ManU has a WINNING mentality!

   not much he could have done on the last two (except maybe been a step or two back to his line on the last one) but he did do shyte on the free kick though.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2009, 11:08:44 AM
ah supporter crying for man u  ::)

I want to guess that that's his father/brother.  They resemble and he ran straight to him after he scored.


Yeh had to be, the man was rel emotional, i could understand the feelings


Yeh, man I was f^cking screaming after the goal and at the whistle! Yuh have tuh love this team! F^ck Liverstool! Turning point of the season, this is the kind of games we win when we win titles- accept the challenge. Although I was rell cussin men on the team- Ronaldo being the tops for his continued shite- he can haul he arse! Ah doh feel Tevez comin back, since Fergie startin tuh blood young strikers! Viva Federico!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2009, 11:11:23 AM
Dais why Fergie is ah boss manager...he bring on ah 17yr old and de man score ah beauty to win de game.... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

Don't forget Wellback could have won it earlier with his chance!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on April 05, 2009, 11:14:16 AM
Great game. United have a great fighting mentality. Macheda just became a hero in United, i always read up on him but i didnt know he was so big for 17........Fergie made a gutsy move, both strikers were teenagers......United future keeps getting better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Great game. United have a great fighting mentality. Macheda just became a hero in United, i always read up on him but i didnt know he was so big for 17........Fergie made a gutsy move, both strikers were teenagers......United future keeps getting better.

If yuh ever get a chance check him out on MUTV, the man dos be rell shinin in the reserve squad! Can only get better, and he is big and strong for his age, plus he appears to have some fire in the belly!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 05, 2009, 11:33:49 AM
much needed vicyory today fuh de lads.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 05, 2009, 11:43:49 AM
Classic...f**king Brilliant

I've been watching reserve highlights this season and every game kiko scores... I was wondering when will he get a spot on the bench... but he was nervous as f**k when he came on but WHAT A GOAL!...

he has a lot of heart and will definitely be a future star at OT...

We were missing a good bit of 1st teamers today and it showed but the heart showed to win the game was tops especially the way we won...

This game due to the late show will cause:
Heads to drop in merseyside
and
Confidence and the heart re instilled at Old Trafford

ARE YOU f**kING WATCHING MERSEYSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 05, 2009, 12:04:06 PM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 05, 2009, 12:14:10 PM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2009, 12:55:48 PM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Agreed, so was the one Liverstool scored yesterday!  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 05, 2009, 01:01:37 PM
So was the one Liverstool scored yesterday!

Okay...

I'm sure that is of some sort of relevance... somewhere.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 05, 2009, 01:08:23 PM
Classic...f**king Brilliant

I've been watching reserve highlights this season and every game kiko scores... I was wondering when will he get a spot on the bench... but he was nervous as f**k when he came on but WHAT A GOAL!...

he has a lot of heart and will definitely be a future star at OT...

We were missing a good bit of 1st teamers today and it showed but the heart showed to win the game was tops especially the way we won...

This game due to the late show will cause:
Heads to drop in merseyside
and
Confidence and the heart re instilled at Old Trafford

ARE YOU f**kING WATCHING MERSEYSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah; I saw the reserve game last week when he scored the hat trick... he's been doing it week in week out. I've been watching him for a while. Almost the entire bench was from the reserve side from last week's game (Eckersley, Kikko, Lee Martin; they all had good games). Fergie is serious about these youths and Ole is doing a great job with the reserves. Great result for the team. The battle is well joined.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 05, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Kiko post-match interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyndKRN9FUQ&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 05, 2009, 07:15:39 PM
Rooney, Scholes & Vidic Set To Return For Manchester United Against Porto
The Red Devils will welcome back a trio of stars in time for Tuesday's Champions League tie...

Manchester United will receive a boost for their Champions League tie with Porto at Old Trafford on Tuesday night, as a trio of key men are set to return.


Wayne Rooney, Paul Scholes and Nemanja Vidic, players whose absence would seriously weaken any side, were forced to watch their side's dramatic 3-2 home victory over Aston Villa today from the stands, but should be back in action against the Portuguese outfit.

Industrious South Korean winger Ji-Sung Park is also set to be available for selection once more, though there is less favourable news concerning defender Rio Ferdinand and Brazilian midfielder Anderson, neither of     whom look likely to be ready in time after picking up knocks whilst on international duty last week.

"I don't think any of the injured players will be back on Tuesday," United manager Alex Ferguson told MUTV.

"But we do have the suspended players back which is good. Vida [Vidic] will play alongside Jonny Evans at the back with John O'Shea moving to right-back.

"Rooney and Scholes are also available which will give us a bit more penetration and experience, and Ji-Sung Park will also be ready so I've got some good options for Tuesday."

There was also a slight doubt over Ryan Giggs, though this was more to do with the effects of what fatigue might have on the Welshman's veteran legs rather than any injury.

Ferguson concluded, "I'll have to assess how Ryan [Giggs] is after playing the 90 minutes against Villa. It's a big ask for someone at 35 years of age to play another game two days later at the kind of level we play."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: makaveli on April 07, 2009, 04:14:33 PM
I will always rate Ferguson over Wenger..all the talk bout youth this youth that...he would never put on a 17yr old under the circumstances that Macheda was brought on...no doubt in my find Ferguson was expecting him to score
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 09, 2009, 05:21:54 PM
Premier League Preview: Sunderland – Manchester United
Both teams need three points for entirely different reasons as the Black Cats welcome the Red Devils to the Stadium of Light...
9 Apr 2009 20:56:17

The honeymoon period is over, and Ricky Sbragia is desperately searching for the result that will see Sunderland beat their North East rivals to Premier League survival.

Since taking over the Sunderland hot seat in December, the former Manchester United reserve team coach has presided over a less than inspiring spell in charge.

The free scoring wins against Hull City and West Bromwich Albion are a now but a distant memory. Last weekend’s 2-0 loss to a depleted West Ham United side has raised the pressure even more as the trap door back to the Championship beckons.

In any normal period, the visit of the reigning English and European champions would hardly seem like the type of fixture to get an inspiring result from. However, the Black Cats faithful know it’s time to pounce.

For an upset to be registered, the home side’s front men must re-discover their shooting boots. French international Djibril Cisse and highly rated target man Kenwyne Jones were supposed to be the men to fire the club to safety.

The disappointing duo have instead have failed to find the back of the net since the beginning of February. When this is aligned with a leaky defence, all the ingredients for a recipe for relegation are present.

With United’s rearguard in an uncharacteristically welcoming mode, the front men should get plenty of opportunities to re-discover their scoring touch.

If they make Edwin Van der Sar pick the ball out of his net, then the Red and Whites should be galvanised enough to send Middlesbrough and Newcastle United down a division.

Stumbling On

After getting out of jail against Aston Villa, the visit of Porto was supposed to herald the re-birth of Manchester United’s five pronged quest for honours.

Sir Alex Ferguson’s men now travel up the A1 to Sunderland with their Champions League dream hanging by a thread and Premier League ambitions called into question once more.

To put it kindly, the Red Devils were disappointing against the Portuguese in the 2-2 draw. Second best in every department, and lucky not to be three goals down within the opening 20 minutes, the Scottish manager will have forcibly told his players that a repeat show on Saturday is not acceptable.

Again, the Mancunians record breaking rearguard bore the brunt of the manager’s wrath. Just four minutes were on the clock when Jonny Evans put the first on a plate, and just one minute was left when a mix up allowed Mariano in the clear to equalise.

Sure, Sunderland are hardly firing on all cylinders. But, if goals are handed out cheaply again, then the Premier League momentum which has swayed in the Reds favour after Liverpool’s dreadful loss to Chelsea will be stopped dead in its tracks.

Thankfully for anyone of a United persuasion, the blow to the ribs which Wayne Rooney suffered on Tuesday night is not expected to keep him out of the action. The Scouser was United’s only saving grace that night.

Without him in the side, his bitter enemies from the other half of Merseyside could be in a celebratory mood once more by Saturday evening.

FORM GUIDE

Sunderland:

April 04 vs. West Ham United (A) LOST 2-0 (PREM)

March 22 vs. Manchester City (A) LOST 1-0 (PREM)

March 14 vs. Wigan Athletic (H) LOST 2-1 (PREM)

March 07 vs. Tottenham Hotspur (H) DREW 1-1 (PREM)

March 03 vs. Liverpool (A) LOST 2-0 (PREM)

Manchester United:

April 07 vs. Porto (H) DREW 2-2 (CHAMP LG)

April 05 vs. Aston Villa (H) WON 3-2 (PREM)

March 21 vs. Fulham (A) LOST 2-0 (PREM)

March 14 vs. Liverpool (H) LOST 4-1 (PREM)

March 11 vs. Internazionale (H) WON 2-0 (CHAMP LG)

TEAM NEWS

Sunderland:

George McCartney is expected to be back in the match day squad after recovering from an ankle injury. Centre back Calum Davenport also returns to the fold after being unable to feature against parent club West Ham United last weekend.

Finland international Teemu Tainio (knee) and David Connolly (groin) are still sidelined.

Last starting XI (vs. West Ham United): Gordon, Bardsley, Ferdinand, Ben-Haim, Collins, Malbranque (Edwards 75), Whitehead, Richardson, Leadbitter, Cisse, Murphy (Jones 54).
Subs Not Used: Fulop, Nosworthy, Reid, Healy, McShane.

Squad: Gordon, Fulop, Colgan, McCartney, Nosworthy, Davenport, Bardsley, McShane, Ferdinand, Ben-Haim, Collins, Malbranque, Edwards, Reid, Yorke, Whitehead, Richardson, Leadbitter, Healy, Cisse, Murphy, Jones.

Possible starting XI: Gordon, Bardsley, Ferdinand, Davenport, Collins, Malbranque, Whitehead, Richardson, Leadbitter, Cisse, Jones.

Manchester United:

Question marks hang over the participation of central defenders Jonny Evans (groin) and Rio Ferdinand (groin) for the visit to the Stadium of Light.

Anderson (thigh) and Rafael (foot) are also likely to be missing. Wes Brown (foot) and Dimitar Berbatov (foot) are still a week away from returning. Owen Hargreaves (knee) continues his rehabilitation from surgery.

Last starting XI (vs. Porto): Van der Sar, O'Shea, Vidic, Evans (Neville 72), Evra, Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes (Tevez 72), Ronaldo, Rooney, Park (Giggs 58).
Subs Not Used: Foster, Eckersley, Nani, Macheda.

Squad: Van der Sar, Foster, Kuszczak, Evra, O’Shea, Evans, Ferdinand, Fabio, Eckersley, Fletcher, Carrick, Possebon, Gibson, Park, Scholes, Giggs, Nani, Ronaldo, Macheda, Tevez, Rooney, Welbeck.

Possible starting XI: Van der Sar, O’Shea, Vidic, Neville, Evra, Fletcher, Carrick, Giggs, Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez.

PLAYERS TO WATCH

Sunderland: Just like his team-mates, Steed Malbranque has lost his spark in recent months. The former Fulham player enjoyed tormenting Manchester United several times during his days as a Cottager. If he can provide the inspiration once again, then Sunderland might just get the result needed to steady a sinking ship.

Manchester United: As the Reds defensive crisis deepens, Nemanja Vidic must use his famous resolve to drag his team-mates through. The Serbian wasn’t at his best on his return from suspension in mid-week, but with Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans scratching for full fitness, United are relying on him to keep Sunderland out.

PREDICTION

Whatever happens on Saturday, don’t expect to tune in and see a classic game. Both teams are struggling to mount the final hurdle, and this should be a closely fought contest.

Manchester United’s superior quality will see them through ahead of Ricky Sbragia’s relegation threatened side, but the margin between victory and defeat will be narrow.

Sunderland 1-2 Manchester United

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on April 09, 2009, 09:50:56 PM
i really don't want Ronaldo playing in this game.......put him on the bench, start him on the bench against Porto as well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 10, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.

Ronaldo's yes- but I think Friedel saw it late..

Macheda- not sure- that goal was an above average goal in my opinion...The turn was especially clinical
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Marcos on April 10, 2009, 09:00:04 AM
what made it special was it was one touch.

ridiculo
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on April 11, 2009, 02:39:10 PM
Kiko strikes again. Keep up the good work young man.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 11, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.

Ronaldo's yes- but I think Friedel saw it late..

Macheda- not sure- that goal was an above average goal in my opinion...The turn was especially clinical

My point on Macheda's goal isn't so much the execution... as I said, taking nothing away from what he did, but let's be honest, there wasn't that much power behind it that Friedel couldn't do anything with it.  He got beat but better range or quicker reaction (maybe even positioning) and he would have been able to stop it.  Seems like some are construing my comments as some slight against ManU's latest wunderkind... which it isn't.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 11, 2009, 03:58:22 PM
What ah finish by the youth! Sweet turn and once again today Friedel get beaten on his left hand???? Three goals in the same post. WOW!

Yeah... I thought the final two goals were kinda soft.  Nothing away from Macheda's strike though.

Ronaldo's yes- but I think Friedel saw it late..

Macheda- not sure- that goal was an above average goal in my opinion...The turn was especially clinical

My point on Macheda's goal isn't so much the execution... as I said, taking nothing away from what he did, but let's be honest, there wasn't that much power behind it that Friedel couldn't do anything with it.  He got beat but better range or quicker reaction (maybe even positioning) and he would have been able to stop it.  Seems like some are construing my comments as some slight against ManU's latest wunderkind... which it isn't.

Nah I was just commenting on your description of it as a "soft goal"....I wouldn't describe it as such.

To me it looked like a well placed shot outta the keeper's reach with a decent amount of bend on it- not sure if Friedel had much of a chance- he looked to be at full stretch, but like yuh say maybe his reaction was slow and his positioning was bad....I didn't observe that.

On the first goal he was like a fish outta water, on the second, he seemed to have seen it late...the last one I give him a bligh...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 11, 2009, 05:00:55 PM
Nah I was just commenting on your description of it as a "soft goal"....I wouldn't describe it as such.

To me it looked like a well placed shot outta the keeper's reach with a decent amount of bend on it- not sure if Friedel had much of a chance- he looked to be at full stretch, but like yuh say maybe his reaction was slow and his positioning was bad....I didn't observe that.

On the first goal he was like a fish outta water, on the second, he seemed to have seen it late...the last one I give him a bligh...

Nah man, ah say it was "kinda soft"... co-signing on Observer's point that of late Friedel seems to have issues covering to his left.  Ah even went on to say that I meant to take nothing from Macheda's effort.  Only reason I fault his positioning is that from the replays I remember him taking a step to his right before realizing the ball was coming to his left... that step took him out of making a play on the ball.

Bottomline is I'm not faulting Friedel for allowing the goal... I think he should have done better with it ("kinda soft"), but Macheda's effort was brilliant enough to make a good argument that despite his best efforts the goal would have scored... wasn't trying to make any argument on Macheda's goal.  Ronaldo's is another story.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 11, 2009, 05:21:36 PM
I hear you- I guess I didn't really pay as close attention...Friedel may indeed have a slight weakness going to his left... or maybe it just wasn't his day (that first goal was such a botched effort on his part)... but one thing we can agree on is that just the sheer hype alone (quality notwithstanding) surrounding Macheda's debut goal was overshadowing enough to spare Friedel any blushes could he have in fact done any better on the last effort. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 11, 2009, 05:44:31 PM
I hear you- I guess I didn't really pay as close attention...Friedel may indeed have a slight weakness going to his left... or maybe it just wasn't his day (that first goal was such a botched effort on his part)... but one thing we can agree on is that just the sheer hype alone (quality notwithstanding) surrounding Macheda's debut goal was overshadowing enough to spare Friedel any blushes could he have in fact done any better on the last effort. 

I take absolutely nothing away from Macheda... given the stakes; given the stage of the game; given his age; given the fact that it was his first start.  Brilliant way to seize the moment to not just win it for his club, but win it win a nice piece of skill to set up a nice effort that connected.  In a meaningless game it would be a good goal... in a game that may eventually prove title-clincher it takes on superlative dimensions.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2009, 11:49:39 AM
Is about damn time! 

 Sir Alex Ferguson issues rare public criticism of Cristiano Ronaldo• Ferguson grows tired of 24-year-old's histrionics
• 'You can't get everything your own way'

 guardian.co.uk, Sunday 12 April 2009 11.04 BST Article history


Cristiano Ronaldo has grown increasingly frustrated at the perceived lack of protection from referees.

Sir Alex Ferguson has criticised Cristiano Ronaldo, chastising his behaviour in recent matches and telling the Manchester United winger: "You can't get everything your own way."


Ronaldo was an instrumental figure for United last season, scoring 42 goals as Ferguson's side clinched the Premier League and Champions League double and although the Portugal international remains United's leading goalscorer with 19 goals this campaign, his influence has waned this campaign.


Ronaldo has increasingly shown signs of frustration at his perceived rough treatment at the hands of opposition defenders and, after being guilty of giving the ball away in the lead-up to goals for Aston Villa and Porto last week, was dropped to the substitute's bench for Manchester United's 2-1 win at Sunderland yesterday. Ferguson also issued a rare public condemnation.


"I don't accept that he will give goals away because of the player he is," said Ferguson. "I speak to him about it. I don't accept that from anyone. In European football, if you give the ball away it takes a long time to get it back."


Ferguson said that Ronaldo had grown tired of some players trying everything they could to stop him, but the United manager believes that the World Player of the Year is allowing frustration to get the run of him.


"He always feels he's not getting the proper protection from referees and I think that, maybe, in quite a few cases he is right, and a few cases he is not right," said Ferguson. "It's hard when a player who wants to entertain doesn't get everything his own way. But you can't get everything your own way. He understands that and there's not a problem with that."


Ferguson, who brought Ronaldo on midway through the second half of his side's victory at the Stadium of Light, will hope that his rebuke gets the desired reaction from the 24-year-old – who has been linked with a £75m summer move to Real Madrid – at Porto on Wednesday, where United must become the first English side to win at the Estadio do Dragao if they are to stay in the Champions League.


"It's just a frustration that he feels he doesn't get the decision and he gets upset about it," added Ferguson. "I think, obviously, he doesn't enjoy that and he knows he's letting himself down more than anything. He holds his hands up. I have had to remind him about that but I'm not getting into what has been said."
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on April 12, 2009, 12:04:54 PM
Steups, one overgrown cry baby
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 12, 2009, 01:59:59 PM
Is about damn time! 

 Sir Alex Ferguson issues rare public criticism of Cristiano Ronaldo• Ferguson grows tired of 24-year-old's histrionics
• 'You can't get everything your own way'

 guardian.co.uk, Sunday 12 April 2009 11.04 BST Article history


Cristiano Ronaldo has grown increasingly frustrated at the perceived lack of protection from referees.

Sir Alex Ferguson has criticised Cristiano Ronaldo, chastising his behaviour in recent matches and telling the Manchester United winger: "You can't get everything your own way."


Ronaldo was an instrumental figure for United last season, scoring 42 goals as Ferguson's side clinched the Premier League and Champions League double and although the Portugal international remains United's leading goalscorer with 19 goals this campaign, his influence has waned this campaign.


Ronaldo has increasingly shown signs of frustration at his perceived rough treatment at the hands of opposition defenders and, after being guilty of giving the ball away in the lead-up to goals for Aston Villa and Porto last week, was dropped to the substitute's bench for Manchester United's 2-1 win at Sunderland yesterday. Ferguson also issued a rare public condemnation.


"I don't accept that he will give goals away because of the player he is," said Ferguson. "I speak to him about it. I don't accept that from anyone. In European football, if you give the ball away it takes a long time to get it back."


Ferguson said that Ronaldo had grown tired of some players trying everything they could to stop him, but the United manager believes that the World Player of the Year is allowing frustration to get the run of him.


"He always feels he's not getting the proper protection from referees and I think that, maybe, in quite a few cases he is right, and a few cases he is not right," said Ferguson. "It's hard when a player who wants to entertain doesn't get everything his own way. But you can't get everything your own way. He understands that and there's not a problem with that."


Ferguson, who brought Ronaldo on midway through the second half of his side's victory at the Stadium of Light, will hope that his rebuke gets the desired reaction from the 24-year-old – who has been linked with a £75m summer move to Real Madrid – at Porto on Wednesday, where United must become the first English side to win at the Estadio do Dragao if they are to stay in the Champions League.


"It's just a frustration that he feels he doesn't get the decision and he gets upset about it," added Ferguson. "I think, obviously, he doesn't enjoy that and he knows he's letting himself down more than anything. He holds his hands up. I have had to remind him about that but I'm not getting into what has been said."
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So is all about him....what about letting down the rest of the team?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 19, 2009, 09:24:42 AM
MAN U - EVERTON NIL NIL 20 MIN

LIVE FEEDS

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 19, 2009, 10:51:10 AM
Just an observation, but how come Mike Riley (I think that is his name) always seem to be the ref for ManU games?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 10:57:34 AM
overtime now.berba on fuh macheda
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on April 19, 2009, 11:17:43 AM
overtime now.berba on fuh macheda

Yuh lie??....the game still 0 - 0??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 19, 2009, 11:18:06 AM
Just an observation, but how come Mike Riley (I think that is his name) always seem to be the ref for ManU games?

    is because dey cyah get 'im off dey **ck!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 19, 2009, 11:33:41 AM
Penalties in we ass again lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 19, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Steups, one overgrown cry baby

How dare you refer to SAF in such a manner?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2009, 11:36:54 AM
Flikin Cahill!
hong!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:37:04 AM
look stern take everton 1st penalty :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:cahill with ah miss.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Flikin Berbatov!

Hong!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
berba ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 19, 2009, 11:38:25 AM
gulp  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
wuh de ass is this rio kick saved
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2009, 11:39:34 AM
Flikin Ferdinand!
Hong!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on April 19, 2009, 11:40:16 AM
Anderson tevez scholes and ferdi and vidi kick
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:40:32 AM
vidic score
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 19, 2009, 11:41:49 AM
HOUNDS ..... hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:42:12 AM
bullocks
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 19, 2009, 11:42:25 AM
 :cursing: bye bye i gone  :-\  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2009, 11:42:39 AM
Hhhhaaaaaaaaa!!!!

This haterade tasting good!

Let me just say it one time for allyuh "We should have had a penalty"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 19, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
Quintuple??

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 19, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
well.....u know....those everton lads and their mums needs the money more
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 19, 2009, 11:45:49 AM
bullocks

  isn't it supposed to be b-O-l-l-o-c-k-s?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: big dawg on April 19, 2009, 11:47:00 AM
experiment the young lads against, West Brom and early rounds FA Cup NOT FA Cup Semis
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 19, 2009, 11:48:22 AM
good showing by the youths.

this experience can only make them get better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 19, 2009, 11:48:37 AM
experiment the young lads against, West Brom and early rounds FA Cup NOT FA Cup Semis
exactly
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 19, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
I thought men don't post when a game on?  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 19, 2009, 11:50:01 AM
experiment the young lads against, West Brom and early rounds FA Cup NOT FA Cup Semis

nah man...thats what makes fergie different, he believe in the youths and they got us here. Why take away their chance?

the youths didnt cause us to lose, we just kicked our penalties bad.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 19, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
I thought men don't post when a game on?  ::)

game done
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
Fergie f^cked up! Tevez always takes the first penalty-no he pick Berbatov and THEN f^ckin Ferdinand? Ferdinand who admit he almost mess his pants because he was nervous about havin tuh take a kick in CL. F^ckin Raphael would have been a better choice! He even had Vida followin, wey Tevez- he was feelin sorry for Everton or what? Oh well, go on and win it Everton! Lets go Flyers, Phillies and Sixers-somebody give me a win or two pr three today!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 19, 2009, 12:02:28 PM
Fergie f^cked up! Tevez always takes the first penalty-no he pick Berbatov and THEN f^ckin Ferdinand? Ferdinand who admit he almost mess his pants because he was nervous about havin tuh take a kick in CL. F^ckin Raphael would have been a better choice! He even had Vida followin, wey Tevez- he was feelin sorry for Everton or what? Oh well, go on and win it Everton! Lets go Flyers, Phillies and Sixers-somebody give me a win or two pr three today!

True!
They should fire he ass
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 12:27:02 PM
Fergie f^cked up! Tevez always takes the first penalty-no he pick Berbatov and THEN f^ckin Ferdinand? Ferdinand who admit he almost mess his pants because he was nervous about havin tuh take a kick in CL. F^ckin Raphael would have been a better choice! He even had Vida followin, wey Tevez- he was feelin sorry for Everton or what? Oh well, go on and win it Everton! Lets go Flyers, Phillies and Sixers-somebody give me a win or two pr three today!

True!
They should fire he ass


Ah, know yuh would love tuh have him manage yuh team!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: trinikev on April 19, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Allyuh shud get used to getting knocked out at the semifinal stage......it gonna happen again in like 2 weeks  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 19, 2009, 12:50:32 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 12:58:08 PM
I think the kids did great, it was great tuh see them playing- Gibson for me still not up tuh par with what it takes tuh play for United; he showed zero creativity and was only lookin tuh play the ball back of to the side. No forward passing to initiate offense. I think teams have tuh be very careful about giving youngsters consistent runs, because their bodies can't handle the rigors of playing at such a high level week in and week out. That is why if you have a team that is overly reliant on youngesters you will see that dey breakin down on a regular basis. Watch and see how many of Arsenal's youngsters stay healthy for a full season.  So I don't mind if dey get a run here and there, Rafa need not be playing 30 plus games at age 18. In the semis- the ole heads let us down. How agian I ask could fergie let the two most causual men on the time take the first 2 pks?! Could ting we playing on Wednesday! Chelski for the trebel!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 01:02:12 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton


Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 19, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
Fergie f^cked up! Tevez always takes the first penalty-no he pick Berbatov and THEN f^ckin Ferdinand? Ferdinand who admit he almost mess his pants because he was nervous about havin tuh take a kick in CL. F^ckin Raphael would have been a better choice! He even had Vida followin, wey Tevez- he was feelin sorry for Everton or what? Oh well, go on and win it Everton! Lets go Flyers, Phillies and Sixers-somebody give me a win or two pr three today!

However the penalties went really didn't matter. United didn't do much in the 120 minutes to deserve going to the final. The order could have been different and they would lose same way.

All credit to Everton because they are a good side and deserve the win.

Is too bad though I think that the FA cup was more winnable than the CL and a stronger squad could have won this game. It is a long time since United win the FA Cup losing the last 2 finald they went to. Hopefully they will win it again soon.

no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today
What is "real champs" or fake champs for that matter. And what would an Arsenal fan know about it?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Flex on April 19, 2009, 01:52:01 PM
I managed to catch piece of the shootout today.

Click Here. (http://www.viddler.com/explore/Flex/videos/51/)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 02:05:50 PM
Fergie f^cked up! Tevez always takes the first penalty-no he pick Berbatov and THEN f^ckin Ferdinand? Ferdinand who admit he almost mess his pants because he was nervous about havin tuh take a kick in CL. F^ckin Raphael would have been a better choice! He even had Vida followin, wey Tevez- he was feelin sorry for Everton or what? Oh well, go on and win it Everton! Lets go Flyers, Phillies and Sixers-somebody give me a win or two pr three today!

However the penalties went really didn't matter. United didn't do much in the 120 minutes to deserve going to the final. The order could have been different and they would lose same way.

All credit to Everton because they are a good side and deserve the win.

Is too bad though I think that the FA cup was more winnable than the CL and a stronger squad could have won this game. It is a long time since United win the FA Cup losing the last 2 finald they went to. Hopefully they will win it again soon.



I disagree that United didn't much to deserve to go the finals and that Everton deserved to win. Howard had to make more saves and United were just as industriuous as Everton, if not more.  As far as the order of the penalty takers, it would make sense to always put your stronger penalty takers first. Ferdinand is not a stronger or better penalty taker than Tevez. Don't know what Berbatov's problem is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on April 19, 2009, 02:51:01 PM
I log on and wondering to mih self but aye, aye how Manu fans eh all themselves in delight at dey win....posting 100's of threads celebrating and ting....

And den ah check this thread..... :devil:

Oh yes....CHELSEA for the FA Cup!!!...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 19, 2009, 03:05:57 PM
Small Mag still watching the game or what....he can't post yet.

Well we did not played our best, but we still in the hunt for the REAL treble  ::) . We did not field our best players. On to Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 19, 2009, 03:40:38 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton


Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!


das yuh best??? go watch arsenal v roma penalties and show yuh CHUMPS how to take them and show foster how to save them too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 19, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton


Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!


das yuh best??? go watch arsenal v roma penalties and show yuh CHUMPS how to take them and show foster how to save them too

Gunner the way u talking it seems as if allyuh in the finals.

Everton did their job today. It doesnt matter which team we fielded as we still dominated with our young side.
Hats of to everton, hope they go on the win. They're a great team with a great manager.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 04:41:52 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton

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Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!


das yuh best??? go watch arsenal v roma penalties and show yuh CHUMPS how to take them and show foster how to save them too

Gunner you either use tuh get serious tap when yuh was younger or yuh still gettin it on a regular basis!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 19, 2009, 05:57:12 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton

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Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!


das yuh best??? go watch arsenal v roma penalties and show yuh CHUMPS how to take them and show foster how to save them too

Gunner you either use tuh get serious tap when yuh was younger or yuh still gettin it on a regular basis!
riiight so you can't provide a good enough counter point, you resort to primary school insults genius just genius
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 19, 2009, 06:04:39 PM
no offense manu but real champs would have fielded their strongest side today

take nothing away from everton who never gave up and throughly deserve thier finals place

david moyes is a great manager and hope he stays on at everton for another 5 years hats off to everton

[/b]

Like all yuh did yesterday Gunner? Oh wait yuh did say real CHAMPS, which your side hasn't been since 2005? Good tuh know yuh know how tuh excuse yuh self out of a conversation about CHAMPS!


das yuh best??? go watch arsenal v roma penalties and show yuh CHUMPS how to take them and show foster how to save them too

Gunner you either use tuh get serious tap when yuh was younger or yuh still gettin it on a regular basis!
riiight so you can't provide a good enough counter point, you resort to primary school insults genius just genius

Just decided to lower myself to your leve, since come off like a rell hard head type of chap.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 19, 2009, 07:52:28 PM
Gutted... but is what it is... fairness to the youths that played..they did well and gave Everton a good battle and had the better opportunities and a clear penalty but we lost in a lottery...we won the last 4 in a row...i doubted it would continue today...

hopefully we can turn these frowns upside down by extending our lead on Wednesday vs Pompey

Come on Everton...dont let yourself down in the final
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 19, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
allyuh take in ferguson reaction to not getting that penalty today? lol

surprised that no one mentioning how Moyes comments about Mike Riley in midweek might have factored in that decision. You get the feeling that no matter what, Riley wasn't giving Man Utd a penalty for nothing today. whole week they calling the man a Man Utd fan all kinda ting.

Riley imo is a weak character and does get intimidated easy. Good job by Moyes to work de mind games beforehand.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 19, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
Gutted... but is what it is... fairness to the youths that played..they did well and gave Everton a good battle and had the better opportunities and a clear penalty but we lost in a lottery...we won the last 4 in a row...i doubted it would continue today...

hopefully we can turn these frowns upside down by extending our lead on Wednesday vs Pompey

Come on Everton...dont let yourself down in the final

Have you all ever lost a game or get beat?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 20, 2009, 02:34:31 AM
allyuh take in ferguson reaction to not getting that penalty today? lol

surprised that no one mentioning how Moyes comments about Mike Riley in midweek might have factored in that decision. You get the feeling that no matter what, Riley wasn't giving Man Utd a penalty for nothing today. whole week they calling the man a Man Utd fan all kinda ting.

Riley imo is a weak character and does get intimidated easy. Good job by Moyes to work de mind games beforehand.

yuh mean this?

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45680000/jpg/_45680073_ferguson.jpg)
Fergie does the Iwer aka Ferguson confronts fourth official Alan Wiley over Riley decision

Quote
Ferguson said: "I've no idea if it affected the decision but it may have. It can prey on a referee's mind."


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"Why would Welbeck go down when he had the goalkeeper stranded out of his goal? It was a major decision and unfortunately it has gone against us."
When the best diver in the game is not around to con the ref, somebody needs to do the dirty work of cheating. The boy is only learning from the best, CRonaldo.

Quote
Rio Ferdinand said: "We don't get many penalties these days. Referees are reluctant to give them to us. Maybe they're are being put under pressure by people in the media."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/8007363.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/8007363.stm)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on April 20, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
 :devil: :devil: Well done Everton.

Now alyuh watch the Gunners knock them out the Champions League.

Nuttin for Manicou this rounds.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 20, 2009, 05:24:35 PM
There was little IF ANY contact on Wellbeck... it looked to me that he dragged his feet to ensure contact with the goalie before crumbling into a pile.  Why would he go down Fergie asks?  Well, because that's what he's been conditioned to do... seek contact and look for a penalty when in the box.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 20, 2009, 06:35:42 PM
all haters does think alike boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 20, 2009, 06:44:47 PM
all haters does think alike boy.

Just a little something more for them to hate about!

The Independent

How Brazilian twins became an ideal match for Ferguson

]Rafael and Fabio de Silva had their first start as Manchester United's full-backs on Sunday.

Ian Herbert reveals the story of how they forged the perfect partnership

Tuesday, 21 April 20 2009


Rafael and Fabio da Silva during their time with Fluminense. Manchester United beat off strong competition from Arsenal and Real Madrid to sign the twins, who played together for the first time in the first team on Sunday.
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Among the few consolations for Sir Alex Ferguson amid the ashes of Manchester United's quintuple hopes yesterday was the knowledge that two of his old adversaries would have had to endure watching the twin teenagers he signed from under their noses play together for the first time. Rafael and Fabio da Silva have revealed that Arsène Wenger wanted to take them to take them to Arsenal and that Real Madrid also tried to lure them to the Bernabeu, having watched them play for the Brazil Under-17 side, captained by Rafael.

The brothers, whose closeness stretches from their identical Ben Sherman luggage on European away trips to consecutive squad numbers (20 and 21) and matching toothbrushes in the house United have found for them, have also revealed something about why Ferguson beat Wenger to the punch on this occasion. The club's "hard work" paid dividends, they say, and Ferguson – or "Señor Alex" as they have taken to call him – has evidently made an impression too. "He always speaks well and is always very supportive of us," Fabio says. "He really likes to know what people are like both on and off the field. But he jokes around with us too."

There is a seemingly perfect symmetry about the two defensive bookends: Rafael at right-back and Fabio, considered by many to be the more naturally gifted of the two but limited by shoulder and calf injuries this season, on the left. But Fabio reveals, in an interview with the Manchester University student magazine, that he is right-footed just like his brother and has cultivated the left foot, which prevents the two competing for the same spot. It was their manager at Fluminense, Edgar Pereira, who deployed Fabio at left back and Rafael on the right and it stuck. "I'm right-footed but I'm comfortable with my left too," Fabio reveals.
There are differences. Fabio is the more serious and introverted of the brothers, who married his 17-year-old girlfriend, Barbara, before they left Brazil for Manchester, so that she could be with him. "I'm serious like that, I like being at home," he says. The wedding is a source of amusement for Rafael but it has helped Ferguson, who admits that Fabio's wedding ring is the only point of differentiation between the two.

The twins' story is that of many young Brazilians. They grew up in an impoverished district of Petropolis, an hour's drive from Rio de Janeiro, were spotted playing in a five-a-side tournament near Fluminense, the team they had always dreamt of representing, and upped sticks, aged 11, in the hope of making their name. Playing for Fluminense's superb youth side in the Nike Premier Cup Under-15s tournament in Hong Kong, which United also contest, they were spotted three years ago by the club's then academy manager, Les Kershaw.

So began many months of frustration, in which the brothers remained at Fluminense for the year it took them to turn 18 and become eligible to apply for work permits in the United Kingdom under the Portuguese nationality they could claim through their grandfather. They feel Fluminense should have allowed them to play in that time. "It was so hard, and totally unfair. If you are a footballer, you just have to play," says Fabio.

The entire family clan eventually decamped to Manchester. The brothers' parents and Fabio's young wife arrived with the twins' older brother, Luis Henrique, who had played for Brescia in Italy, and his own wife. Henrique tried to ply his trade with non-league Radcliffe Borough before returning to Brazil. It was – and remains – a period of adjustment with no little yearning, from Fabio in particular, for the land of their birth. "I like it here but it doesn't compare to Brazil. We have a lot of friends from our time there, our best friends in the world are from there," Fabio says.

But a general air of bonhomie around Carrington – with Rio Ferdinand and Patrice Evra's practical jokes, carried out on the twins' Brazilian compatriot Anderson – seems to have gone a long way to helping the two settle in. "He is a really good friend of ours," Rafael says of Ferdinand. "Of course, he is serious when he has to be, but really he is the biggest joker on the team. We love to have him on our team in training; he is always messing about with the ball with [Cristiano] Ronaldo and playing tricks on the other players with Patrice. Once, Anderson came to training in his slippers, and they set fire to his slippers and tipped cream out all over them. During training everyone is serious. But the most serious would be [Paul] Scholes."

Rafael is the one who has marked himself out, his performance in the 3-0 Champions League win in Aalborg and his goal against Arsenal at the Emirates in November proving the high points. "The ball just came to me and I thought ... shoot!" Rafael recalls. "At the time I really didn't feel a thing, it didn't click that I'd scored against Arsenal." But it has been hard to discern much competitiveness between them, despite Fabio's slower start in England. "I actually get more nervous when he is playing than when I am," Rafael says. "That's what we're like really, we get more nervous for each other," adds his brother.

There is a difference of opinion on whether they might forgo the chance to represent Brazil, with Ferguson's former assistant Carlos Queiroz keen to tie them into his Portuguese national set-up. "We want to play for Brazil, but if that doesn't happen, I could play for Portugal," says Rafael. "I don't think there's anything wrong with players who play for Portugal, as long as they don't forget where they were born and their culture." Fabio is less convinced. "It's my dream to play for Brazil," he said. But for now, establishing roles at United is a priority– with Evra, for all his tomfoolery, a formidable obstacle.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 22, 2009, 12:33:36 PM
STRIKER ON THE MOVE?
Tevez admits he's likely to leave Old Trafford
By Soccernet staff


 Manchester United striker Carlos Tevez has moved closer to a summer exit from the club after admitting he needs to be playing regular first team football and be selected for the big games.

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/Chunkycj/Tevez2050127.jpg)
Tevez: Unlikely to stay

The 25-year-old's two-year loan from Kia Joorabchian's Media Sports Investments (MSI) is up at the end of the current season and there has been little to suggest the Premier League champions have attempted to secure a permanent deal.

The Red Devils are likely to have been put off by the reputed £30m price tag slapped on the player by Joorabchian, especially as Tevez has played second fiddle to Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov for most of the campaign.

The Argentina international has started half of United's Premier League games this term, with a total of 31 starts in all competition and a further 13 appearances from the bench, scoring 13 goals.

Speaking to Radio Del Plata, Tevez said: "I have many offers, not only from Spain: I need to see which club I can go to and what can be done. We must not only consider the money, I also have to ensure my family feel comfortable, especially my daughter. So I have a lot to think about.

"Even if you score three or four goals, you do not play in another game. There are many very good players but I need to play. I have trained every day and never said anything against my team-mates or anyone but it is true that there are other options for next season.

"There are many players and they all need to play but I have not lost my place because of what I did when I played. I have not played in important matches. The 'clasico' against Chelsea, I did not play. Those are the games that I like to play in."


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
tee hee

 :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 22, 2009, 02:58:03 PM
3 points..clean sheet

top of the league and that's a fact
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 22, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
3 points..clean sheet

top of the league and that's a fact

You around? What happen since the weekend?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 22, 2009, 04:32:16 PM
great victory in securin another epl title.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 23, 2009, 11:20:55 AM
great victory in securin another epl title.

Glory Glory Man United :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2009, 11:07:04 PM
[MANCHESTER UNITED held talks with Kaka yesterday over a sensational summer move.

The Brazilian’s representatives met United to discuss personal terms which would total £35million in wages alone.

A source close to the AC Milan superstar confirmed: “It was a very positive meeting, although nothing was agreed.

“The player wants a five-year contract and wages of £135,000 a week. He is very keen to join United and these are figures that are within United’s pay structure. It’s up to them what happens now.”

The talks did not involve any discussion about a transfer fee but Milan expect to get at least £70m for their star player.

The big question now is how United will find the cash — and whether they will sell Cristiano Ronaldo in the summer to Real Madrid.

Kaka, 27, has already spoken of his affinity for United, saying: “They have some great players in Giggs and Scholes and especially Wayne Rooney.

“One of my best friends, Anderson, is also there — how can anyone say no?

“They are the English and European champions and a great club to play for.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2395301.ece
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2009, 11:08:13 PM
United eye Tevez Stay

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted the he is doing everything he can to ensure Carlos Tevez remains at the club.

The Argentine's future is currently the subject of conjecture as he comes to the end of a two-year loan deal.

United are keen to extend his stay but it has been suggested Tevez could seek a move elsewhere, with Liverpool the latest to be mooted as suitors, come the end of the season.

The forward's playing time has been reduced since the summer arrival of Dimitar Berbatov, but Ferguson is 'working towards' a new agreement with the player.

"Whether the games he has played are important games or not is a different question but he has played in quite a few big games," said Ferguson. "I don't want him to be unhappy because he is an important player for us.

"The difficulty is when you have got the options I have got - I bought another striker in with Berbatov, as well as having the option of playing (Cristiano) Ronaldo as a striker - you create problems for yourself because all good players want to play in every game.

"But they can't play in every game in this league - it is impossible. I think he genuinely wants to stay here and that is something we are trying to work towards.

"I have told him that repeatedly. And there is not much more I can do."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5234336,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2009, 11:09:31 PM
Manchester United know the visit of Tottenham Hotspur is going to be a pivotal fixture in their quest for Premier League glory.

Wednesday's victory over Portsmouth saw United reclaim top spot in the league and the result puts Sir Alex Ferguson's side firmly in the driving seat to match Liverpool's record of 18 titles.

With time running out for the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea to catch the Red Devils, bosses Rafa Benitez and Gus Hiddink will be hoping Spurs can do them a favour.

Harry Redknapp has turned the ship around at White Hart Lane by steering the Londoners away from relegation and has eyes on a place in next season's Europa League.

Redknapp, who masterminded FA Cup victories over United during spells at West Ham and Pompey, faces the sternest of tasks to claim even a point at a ground where Tottenham rarely get anything.
Nightmare

The Theatre of Dreams has been one of nightmares for Spurs with only three draws from their last 16 visits to Old Trafford, but at least Redknapp's side come into the game with the better league form of the two sides.

The midweek win for United came at a price with the injuries to Gary Neville and John O'Shea, the former is ruled out of Saturday's teatime fixture but O'Shea has made a shock recovery and could feature.

Ferguson has been boosted by the return of Wes Brown after the defender featured for the reserves twice this week, but the United boss may consider the defender too rusty to start so Rafael may get the nod at right-back.

Rio Ferdinand has been described as the key figure in the Red Devils' title bid by former Red David May and the England international is set to return at the heart of United's defence after being rested for the 2-0 win over Pompey.

Spurs boost

Jermaine Jenas could return for Tottenham after missing Sunday's 1-0 victory over struggling Newcastle with a hamstring injury.

But Spurs, who are unbeaten in six games against the top four this season, look set to be without the services of Michael Dawson and Roman Pavlyuchenko.

Dawson is out for three weeks after partially tearing ankle ligaments in last weekend's win so Johnathan Woodgate and Ledley King are expected to be the centre-back partnership.

Pavlyuchenko had hoped to recover from a back injury, but the United fixture appears to have come too soon for the Russian striker.

Alan Hutton impressed in his substitute appearance against the Magpies and may pip Vedran Corluka to a starting berth at right-back.

Possible starting XIs:

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand, Rafael, Park, Scholes, Carrick, Ronaldo, Berbatov, Rooney.

Tottenham: Gomes, Assou-Ekotto, King, Woodgate, Hutton, Modric, Palacios, Jenas, Lennon, Bent, Keane.

http://www.skysports.com/football/match_preview/0,19764,11065_3005478,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on April 25, 2009, 12:09:46 AM
[MANCHESTER UNITED held talks with Kaka yesterday over a sensational summer move.

The Brazilian’s representatives met United to discuss personal terms which would total £35million in wages alone.

A source close to the AC Milan superstar confirmed: “It was a very positive meeting, although nothing was agreed.

“The player wants a five-year contract and wages of £135,000 a week. He is very keen to join United and these are figures that are within United’s pay structure. It’s up to them what happens now.”

The talks did not involve any discussion about a transfer fee but Milan expect to get at least £70m for their star player.

The big question now is how United will find the cash — and whether they will sell Cristiano Ronaldo in the summer to Real Madrid.

Kaka, 27, has already spoken of his affinity for United, saying: “They have some great players in Giggs and Scholes and especially Wayne Rooney.

“One of my best friends, Anderson, is also there — how can anyone say no?

“They are the English and European champions and a great club to play for.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2395301.ece








WHAT!!!!!!!


Kaka for Ronaldo hmmmmmm could be a good move. i just worry about all the injuries he gets.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 04:48:56 AM
ah good move nah u n serious. kaka and ronladinho  are yet to reach 30 but already they are both past there  best. they are still better than the avg player but i very dependent on their past glories now. sad but true
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 08:57:19 AM
ah calling it 1st. spurs winning 2day. actually i think the  champs league semifinalist  have to scrape wins 2day  as they seek to rest key players
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 10:05:01 AM
ah calling it 1st. spurs winning 2day. actually i think the  champs league semifinalist  have to scrape wins 2day  as they seek to rest key players

come nah man....ease up on the goat mouth .

Go United.


----------------------
what allyuh think bout a player like Ribery to replace CR?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 10:09:35 AM
man u  not resting any player they going full 100
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
the way lennon crossing i think  is best beckham head back to galaxy  now. cause lennon  have the right wing lock
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2009, 11:09:21 AM
Spurs 2   v Man United 0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on April 25, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
What happen here. i just change the channel and can't believe i seeing 2-0 Tottenham. :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 11:13:13 AM
Spurs 2   v Man United 0


Evra getting abused, Fergie go have to call social services at halftime.

Gomes looking like a star so far.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2009, 11:18:33 AM
 ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 11:22:48 AM
Spurs 2   v Man United 0


Evra getting abused, Fergie go have to call social services at halftime.

Gomes looking like a star so far.

yeh d save he pull off on ronaldo follow up after the fk look bad!

???

not ??? .......LICKS!!!!!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on April 25, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
Spurs 2   v Man United 0


Evra getting abused, Fergie go have to call social services at halftime.

Gomes looking like a star so far.

Gomes is looking like the keeper he was rated as back in Holland.  See what a lil pep talk and reassurance from the coach could do.  He looking technically sound, and you could see the confidence in his body language, even when he does not manage to hold a shot cleanly.  He's not slouching any more.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 11:40:23 AM
for the purpose of those who saw manu aston villa game notice that spurs are not making the smae mistake, doesnt ,mean  they will win but they are slowing down the game and telling man u if u want it come and get it. which will inevitably cause gaps 2 open in the manu back line
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 11:49:07 AM
well done manu 12 th man yup the referee . not a penalty   . even the a die hard manu fan should b able to admit that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
well done manu 12 th man yup the referee . not a penalty   . even the a die hard manu fan should b able to admit that

agreed......but is fergie & OT so not givin it would be a sin  ::) steups
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2009, 11:53:58 AM
What a dive   :o :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: trinikev on April 25, 2009, 11:57:56 AM
HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE call by the ref there.....Gomes CLEARLY got the ball....and i didn't need the slow motion replay to tell me that.

And as i typing Gomes do shyte and gift Rooney a goal...2-2 68'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 11:59:04 AM
FIG FIG FIG shrek just scored......thnaks webb-head
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 11:59:38 AM
great come back. bringing on tevez was really good other coaches may have waited a bit b4 going to 433.  lets see wat harry has 2 say
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
great come back

started by utd's 12th man....& i ain't talkin about the fans
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:04:26 PM
that ball did not cross completely as shown by the goal line cam!!

2 bogus calls bail utd out at OT... what a surprise
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 25, 2009, 12:06:12 PM
Saw the first half... great quality by Spurs.


Last three goals given up... dreadfuly defending on the crossed balls, spotty keeping.


Didn't see the penalty so can't really comment yet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 25, 2009, 12:10:40 PM
Allyuh sure is not T&T they playing?
Gomez need a bush bath. A bush enema
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 12:11:14 PM
that ball did not cross completely as shown by the goal line cam!!

2 bogus calls bail utd out at OT... what a surprise

nah that ball cross d line comfortably
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2009, 12:11:49 PM
that ball did not cross completely as shown by the goal line cam!!

2 bogus calls bail utd out at OT... what a surprise

To me part of the ball was still on the line. Say what 5-2 can't argue.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:12:12 PM
now d bulgarian slow poke scored 5-2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:12:59 PM
that ball did not cross completely as shown by the goal line cam!!

2 bogus calls bail utd out at OT... what a surprise

nah that ball cross d line comfortably

from front view it go look so, but goal line show that it didn't....not COMPLETELY anyway.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2009, 12:13:56 PM
 :shameonyou: not today Tottenham
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 12:14:22 PM
Allyuh sure is not T&T they playing?

Take the words out meh mouth.
I finally see a side that does ballwatch more than the Soca Warriors.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 25, 2009, 12:14:42 PM
arguing about that goal is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 12:16:15 PM
neva underestimate de heart of ah champion.absolute brilliance in de 2nd half.manchester is really de best side in de world.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:17:02 PM
arguing about that goal is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

yeh but is the first goal (the non-exixtant pen) that gave utd thier momentum!! and a way back
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: trinikev on April 25, 2009, 12:17:11 PM
Wayyyz Tottenham self-destructing here yes.......5-2 now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 25, 2009, 12:19:01 PM
arguing about that goal is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

yeh but is the first goal (the non-exixtant pen) that gave utd thier momentum!! and a way back

Yuh really think Hotspur start ball watching only after the penalty?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on April 25, 2009, 12:21:04 PM
arguing about that goal is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

yeh but is the first goal (the non-exixtant pen) that gave utd thier momentum!! and a way back

Yuh really think Hotspur start ball watching only after the penalty?


no i eh saying that cuz they seem to come out half time like milan in the 05 CL finals. but the longer it had stay 2-0 they mighta have time wake up or for 'arry to make a change etc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
back where we belong....ON TOP....game in hand.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 25, 2009, 12:22:14 PM
Only 3 minutes stoppage time after 5 goals? United must be winning :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 12:22:36 PM
outside of the penalty.  spurs (harry) was out coached. they didnt adjust to the 4-3-3 that  manu adapted to. they tried to slow down the game but  when they didnt have the ball. the marking and off  d ball movement became non existent .  but hats off to manu. based on this performance alone i would give them the  epl title . and mark yuh ah doh like d side atall eh, but yuh have to give them there  due
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
what is the over-under on a ManUre fan accepting that the penalty was not legitimate?

I think honest Manchester United fan is an oxymoron.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 12:25:27 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 12:26:26 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on April 25, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
I don't post on these kinda threads cuz I find it pointless...men who does back d side will feel one way and others will hate.
I just can't see that after 20 yrs or so of seeing this team fight back how anybody could hate on them, its one thing to not be a fan but u can't hate tha spirit. No coach could teach that, no player could train to do that...its just an aura.
And yes it was a penal...bless
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 12:31:55 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?
we sights on bigger tings.plus in life yuh always have lil stumblin blocks.that was one of them.i eh studyin it.should u?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 12:33:19 PM
Glory Glory Man Utd....

great come back.

Tevez clearly made the difference

CR had a brilliant 2nd half, reminiscent of last season.

Penalty? We didn't get the call last week, but we got it this week.
Hard for the ref to see if Gomez got a touch or Not. The ref have to go with what he sees and he saw penalty. Talk done.
Haterz, eat your hearts out. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH

Glory Glory Man Utd....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 12:37:11 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

we was down during the everton game?

And what kinda backside go sing when they side lost the game? come nah man..... think lil bit and stop embarassing yuh self nah... steups.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 25, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Rooonay is a f^cking winner and a brilliant footballer, I will take him on my side any day! He is better winger than f^ckin Nani. Great comeback, that is the type drive and determination that made Ronaldo special last season, good tuh see it this match. Love when Tevez, Berba, Roonay, and Ronaldo play together and everybody playing with the same intensity! Hard to admit but it appears that Lennon is Evra's daddy!
Well done United!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 25, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
Glory Glory Man Utd....

great come back.

Tevez clearly made the difference

CR had a brilliant 2nd half, reminiscent of last season.

Penalty? We didn't get the call last week, but we got it this week.
Hard for the ref to see if Gomez got a touch or Not. The ref have to go with what he sees and he saw penalty. Talk done.
Haterz, eat your hearts out. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH

Glory Glory Man Utd....



Dito! Cyber high 5!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?
we sights on bigger tings.plus in life yuh always have lil stumblin blocks.that was one of them.i eh studyin it.should u?

So now allyuh too big for the oldest association cup competition in the world?

jones yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 12:46:40 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

we was down during the everton game?

And what kinda backside go sing when they side lost the game? come nah man..... think lil bit and stop embarassing yuh self nah... steups.

Like comprehension wasn't your strong subject in primary school.
I eh arkse yuh if allyuh was down during the Everton game - ah arkse how come allyuh eh sing when Everton cut allyuh backside.

... and what kinda backside go sing when they side lost the game? ..... REAL supporters. The kinda supporters that does pull fuh dey team, and doh pull for side like Liverpool and Arsenal when it convenient for them. The kinda supporters that doh need to resort to cockney verbage to support dey side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2009, 01:02:51 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t



Great game today...we were good in the 1st half but gave up 2 poor goals...the second being Rafael's fault for getting sucked in

Second half was awesome.. Utd at their best... free flowing attacking football

Penalty was a penalty and Webb got it spot on and did the right thing by giving the yellow and not the red... He got a chunk of Carrick after Carrick evaded him...

Great work by Wazza on the Left to score 2 and create the Ronaldo header which was a beaut

Special notice to Dimitar Berbatov... showed his class today... he must have sent players through at least 20 times... he was my man of the match

10/10

Ronaldo and Rooney were right up there as well and Tevez for bringing the energy and fight

I wouldnt be surprised if we use the fantastic 4 for the remainder of the season

Ronaldo------------------Rooney

----------Tevez---Berba

all can interchange and Rooney has the capability of defending and attacking


We shall not be moved
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Change on April 25, 2009, 01:08:33 PM
MAN U FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still the greatest team on earth. Records to prove and they keep doing it over and over over again, even when people still doubt them; even when they lose or draw a game or 2, they come right back at ya!!!!

Despite people trying to put them down, they are SIMPLY the best. They know to win. They the TOUGHEST! Most titles won. Most Champions League Final four appearances. Simple the MOST CONSISTENT wining team in the world in the past 10 years!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Alex. The greatest manager the game has ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on April 25, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
Mods..merge this retarded thread..steups
better yet delete it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Change on April 25, 2009, 01:16:24 PM
Feliziano , what happened? Are u upset? The fact and stats and records speak for themselves!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2009, 01:18:33 PM
 :beermug:

Its United..get it right...Man U is for the yanks
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dr. Rat on April 25, 2009, 01:23:43 PM
Game of the Year!  Good showing ManUtD
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 01:26:52 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

we was down during the everton game?

And what kinda backside go sing when they side lost the game? come nah man..... think lil bit and stop embarassing yuh self nah... steups.

Like comprehension wasn't your strong subject in primary school.
I eh arkse yuh if allyuh was down during the Everton game - ah arkse how come allyuh eh sing when Everton cut allyuh backside.



check back what u quoted from capo and proceeded to comment on nah... and then take my post in that context.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 01:30:57 PM
now ah much as i am a barca fan  i does be able to own up when the ref give we one.

there is no way that a keeper can go into a one on one with a player like that and not touch the player unless the player jumps over the keeper. that much anyone  can gather. how  one determines if its a penalty or not is whether the keeper made contact with the ball or not, b4  he hits the player or the player hits him. how do u determine if the keeper makes contact  with the ball even though u r behind the play? the  movement of the ball . the player attempts to push the ball around the keeper yet the ball ends up rolling out of the 18 yard box perpendicular to where the contact occurred. (in simple terms out of the  attacking players path) its obvious the keeper touched the ball.
 if u want to say even though the keeper touched the ball it still was penalty then ok. talk done
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 25, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t



Great game today...we were good in the 1st half but gave up 2 poor goals...the second being Rafael's fault for getting sucked in

Second half was awesome.. Utd at their best... free flowing attacking football

Penalty was a penalty and Webb got it spot on and did the right thing by giving the yellow and not the red... He got a chunk of Carrick after Carrick evaded him...

Great work by Wazza on the Left to score 2 and create the Ronaldo header which was a beaut

Special notice to Dimitar Berbatov... showed his class today... he must have sent players through at least 20 times... he was my man of the match

10/10

Ronaldo and Rooney were right up there as well and Tevez for bringing the energy and fight

I wouldnt be surprised if we use the fantastic 4 for the remainder of the season

Ronaldo------------------Rooney

----------Tevez---Berba

all can interchange and Rooney has the capability of defending and attacking


We shall not be moved


Playing all four I think will help make Berbatov more affective; Roonay, Tevez and Ronaldo will provide the movement creating opportunites for passes from Berbatov. I hope Fergie does it. Who are Arsenal's wingers by the way?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on April 25, 2009, 02:46:21 PM
we sights on bigger tings[/quote]

Your comment is in very poor taste and (hopefully) not indicative or United fans on this board.

One of my greatest ever memories in football was getting a ticket to the '96 final (my second final) and watching Eric destroying Scouse hopes a few minutes before the end.

Those sort of feelings are priceless and I wasn't one of the people who justified Fergies team selection last week...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2009, 04:20:43 PM
reminds me of the Newcastle game a few years back
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 06:30:33 PM
we sights on bigger tings

Your comment is in very poor taste and (hopefully) not indicative or United fans on this board.

One of my greatest ever memories in football was getting a ticket to the '96 final (my second final) and watching Eric destroying Scouse hopes a few minutes before the end.

Those sort of feelings are priceless and I wasn't one of the people who justified Fergies team selection last week...
[/quote]yuh is ah fukkin ass,read my entire quote.what did i say.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 06:45:57 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 25, 2009, 07:01:49 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(


like de final allyuh lose last year in de CL still huttin yuh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 25, 2009, 07:16:03 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(


like de final allyuh lose last year in de CL still huttin yuh.

small side with no history doh ever expect to be in Finals .... CL least of all, so when we make it dey, we juss so happy to be in the moment that we does cry - win, lose or draw.

Big men does cry dey tears, live, learn and move on. 

But say what, with the same small side this year, we in the Top 3 in the League, we in the Finals of the FA Cup and we in the semis of the CL .... yeah, the same small side with no history who still huttin from the CL Finals last year and not supposed to recover.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 25, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
now ah much as i am a barca fan  i does be able to own up when the ref give we one.

there is no way that a keeper can go into a one on one with a player like that and not touch the player unless the player jumps over the keeper. that much anyone  can gather. how  one determines if its a penalty or not is whether the keeper made contact with the ball or not, b4  he hits the player or the player hits him. how do u determine if the keeper makes contact  with the ball even though u r behind the play? the  movement of the ball . the player attempts to push the ball around the keeper yet the ball ends up rolling out of the 18 yard box perpendicular to where the contact occurred. (in simple terms out of the  attacking players path) its obvious the keeper touched the ball.   if u want to say even though the keeper touched the ball it still was penalty then ok. talk done

I went and download highlights for the specific purpose of watching dat penalty call...and...from de highlights i get...carrick touched the ball and sent it that way...and his foot in trailing caught on Gomes chest. Gomes just missed it.
 Check here...round 5:18.  (http://netload.in/dateizmvW98wsKF/Manchester_United_V_Tottenham_Hotspur_25.04.09_MotD_interviews_and_analysis_f54.avi.htm)

what is the over-under on a ManUre fan accepting that the penalty was not legitimate?

I think honest Manchester United fan is an oxymoron.

Unfortunately dat not true. I for one does call it honest. Which is much more than i could say for some of allyuh dat hate United so much dat allyuh doh miss a game. I hate chelsea too..buh yuh doh hear me stalking dey every move. De penalty was understandable. Buh nah.....fergie and dem buy de ref ent?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 08:21:16 PM
we go have to agree to disagree. gomes touched d ball away as far as i see

Harry fumes at blunder ref


Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp accused referee Howard Webb of making a "terrible mistake'' that robbed his team of victory over Manchester United and made it increasingly likely the Premier League title will remain at Old Trafford.

"The referee made a terrible mistake,'' said Redknapp. "The players can't believe it because it changed the face of the game. United were not going to win unless something like that happened.''

Redknapp challenged Webb after the final whistle, although he got nothing better than the offer of an apology if the FA Cup final referee had got it wrong.

"You should have technology,'' he said. "The fourth official should be watching the TV monitor and talking to the referee. The guy has not done it on purpose, it is just a bad decision but it was the turning point.''

Even Sir Alex Ferguson admitted United had benefited from a large slice of luck.

However, given that United were dumped out of the FA Cup by Everton last weekend after being denied a spot-kick when Danny Welbeck was sent flying by Phil Jagielka, the Scot is making no apologies.

"We were a bit fortunate but football is a funny game,'' said Ferguson.
"You get terrible decisions. We got one last week. You have to deal with them and get on with it. It was a fantastic performance from Berbatov. I don't think he gave the ball away once. He was our best player in the first-half and in the second he produced some wonderful moments.


in case yuh miss it ah bold it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 25, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
we go have to agree to disagree. gomes touched d ball away as far as i see

Yuh watch de slow mo replay from the back? Carrick hit it in an attempt to cut away from gomes. As i said...for me fair is fair....i doh lie for any of my teams cuz dat eh making no sense. Buh gomes didnt touch dat ball.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on April 25, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
i edited mi post.  as i say we go have to agree to disagree
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 25, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
i edited mi post.  as i say we go have to agree to disagree

Yuh still eh say if yuh watch it or not.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2009, 10:18:48 PM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(



ACB i notice how men on this board ( somehow is always the haters and the fellas who like to argue the most) likes to throw around their education all over the place. It must make u guys feel like the big men on campus - err forum.
For a guy who talking bout education, u does never seem to give credit where credit is due. In other words u dont appear to be fair or just. You're right, the fella forget to leave out conceited in his description cause thats how u moving. You talking bout class, but u always with some kinda bullerman talk and stalking CR or Utd. U bracing a man for cussing yuh, but u turn around and cussing back and then talking bout back water this and that. Dont u find that hypocritical? Y dont u set the example since u soooooo educated?


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 26, 2009, 01:28:48 AM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(



ACB i notice how men on this board ( somehow is always the haters and the fellas who like to argue the most) likes to throw around their education all over the place. It must make u guys feel like the big men on campus - err forum.
For a guy who talking bout education, u does never seem to give credit where credit is due. In other words u dont appear to be fair or just. You're right, the fella forget to leave out conceited in his description cause thats how u moving. You talking bout class, but u always with some kinda bullerman talk and stalking CR or Utd. U bracing a man for cussing yuh, but u turn around and cussing back and then talking bout back water this and that. Dont u find that hypocritical? Y dont u set the example since u soooooo educated?

Breds, you so concerned about me, I almost have to take yuh serious. But what men on this forum and their education have anything to do with calling out trolls who greatest accomplishment in life is copy & pasting sing-a-longs & nursery rhymes from a Man U UNITED Website? But forget me, let us get back to football, or soccer as we Yanks like to call it.

You mention fair or just .... Fair or Just would be tantamount to Man U UNITED fans on this board admitting that Man U United gets more than their fair share of calls from their coach influencing the referees in matches. Like the rank nonsense allyuh trying to peddle that the penalty was not a shit call from the ref, and in case allyuh blatantly choose to ignore the post game comments, here it is again:

Even Sir Alex Ferguson admitted United had benefited from a large slice of luck.

However, given that United were dumped out of the FA Cup by Everton last weekend after being denied a spot-kick when Danny Welbeck was sent flying by Phil Jagielka, the Scot is making no apologies.

"We were a bit fortunate but football is a funny game,'' said Ferguson.
"You get terrible decisions. We got one last week. You have to deal with them and get on with it.

I actually give Fergie credit where credit is due. This is the closest he will ever come to admitting that it was a shit call, and that is the most that you will get from a man who has a penchant for intimidating referees. There is a line between gamesmanship and intimidation, and Fergie gets away with the latter ... and it's not only haters that will say that. True Man U UNITED fans are not afraid to admit it.

... and in case yuh think I miss it, everytime the bullerman accusations rightfully fly at CRonaldo, you does fly to the man defence, as though it does resonate with you. Men done can't post while game going on, fanboys mussbe take a couple extra hours to recover from the daze when he rip off he shirt and fling it. Ah wonder if he even get a yellow card for that nonsense, but that type of behaviour eh important - is only Balotelli who have the attitude problem. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 26, 2009, 07:47:51 AM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(



ACB i notice how men on this board ( somehow is always the haters and the fellas who like to argue the most) likes to throw around their education all over the place. It must make u guys feel like the big men on campus - err forum.
For a guy who talking bout education, u does never seem to give credit where credit is due. In other words u dont appear to be fair or just. You're right, the fella forget to leave out conceited in his description cause thats how u moving. You talking bout class, but u always with some kinda bullerman talk and stalking CR or Utd. U bracing a man for cussing yuh, but u turn around and cussing back and then talking bout back water this and that. Dont u find that hypocritical? Y dont u set the example since u soooooo educated?

Breds, you so concerned about me, I almost have to take yuh serious. But what men on this forum and their education have anything to do with calling out trolls who greatest accomplishment in life is copy & pasting sing-a-longs & nursery rhymes from a Man U UNITED Website? But forget me, let us get back to football, or soccer as we Yanks like to call it.

You mention fair or just .... Fair or Just would be tantamount to Man U UNITED fans on this board admitting that Man U United gets more than their fair share of calls from their coach influencing the referees in matches. Like the rank nonsense allyuh trying to peddle that the penalty was not a shit call from the ref, and in case allyuh blatantly choose to ignore the post game comments, here it is again:



concern about u?
I say i will point out some of the ridiculous things u does be coming with rather than just jumping and writing u off, like others seem to have done. U does come with soo much nonsense sometimes, men don't really bother to reply to u.

U bitching bout utd getting the calls from our manager influencing the ref, so what Murhino, rafa, wenger, Moyes does do?

anyhow, take win breads. Only your points valid nah and yeah CR and utd players are all buller men, and we buy out the FA and UEFA and the refs does theif for we and we never win a game without cheating.

Peace

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2009, 10:11:43 AM
as de commentator say....down but neva beaten.final 5-2.

how come allyuh eh sing that song whole week when Everton cut allyuh backside?

losing on penalties after outplaying Everton with a youth squad does not fall in the same catergory of a cut ass....

and this is why everyone thinks you are a c**t

yuh fuhget to use "conceited" between a and c**t.
But maybe that word to big fuh yuh backwater education and continually classy choice and application of cockney on a Trini message board.

Cutarse is cutarse ... yuh doh bring boys to play a man's game.
Everton beat allyuh c**t last week, and every man jack hide and make excuse. Glory Glory BooHoo  :'(



ACB i notice how men on this board ( somehow is always the haters and the fellas who like to argue the most) likes to throw around their education all over the place. It must make u guys feel like the big men on campus - err forum.
For a guy who talking bout education, u does never seem to give credit where credit is due. In other words u dont appear to be fair or just. You're right, the fella forget to leave out conceited in his description cause thats how u moving. You talking bout class, but u always with some kinda bullerman talk and stalking CR or Utd. U bracing a man for cussing yuh, but u turn around and cussing back and then talking bout back water this and that. Dont u find that hypocritical? Y dont u set the example since u soooooo educated?





Sammy, well said.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 26, 2009, 12:22:08 PM
that penalty was a very terrible call against Spurs, and from a numerical standpoint, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, but as far as momentum is concerned, I think it was a contributing factor, but still not as much as Spurs' tactics of giving manu too much space to operate.  dem is my only issue wit this game.  Poor officiating once again in the EPL, particularly to the benefit, yet again, to one particular team.  I seeing some menus (plural for manu (fan)) on here reverting back to the penalty that was wasn't called in the FA Semi to want to proclaim how refs does make bad calls against dey team.  HA! Dey so convenient wit dey memory though, to forget that, for every one or two bad calls that go against manu, it have about TEN bad calls that DO go their way, whether at OT or any other venue.  If the numbers that add up between cronaldo diving for fouls/yellow cards/free-kicks in critical spots/penalties, scholes and his fits of madness that tend to go more un(der)punished than do and rooney and his fits of madness that go equally so, don't add up to my modest estimate (and these  are just the three MAIN culprits.  I didn't include "The official SAF guide to Referees' clock-management)....then nothing ever will.  The other 19 teams in the EPL added up together don't have things so nice.  Congrats, menus.  Allyuh have de EPL trophy tree straight.     
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 26, 2009, 06:55:51 PM
Congrats, menus.  Allyuh have de EPL trophy tree straight.     

Thanks man, although i had to sift through all the kaka to get to it.  ::)

Doh study it. nex year u go make 2nd place for sure

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA..........
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 27, 2009, 06:30:15 PM
United's Neville out of Champs League semifinalAssociated Press
MANCHESTER, England (AP) - Manchester United captain Gary Neville has been ruled out for two weeks with a foot injury, but the prognosis is better for fellow defender John O'Shea.

Champions LeagueSemifinals, Leg 1 
Tue., Apr. 28
FC Barcelona vs. Chelsea   

Wed., Apr. 29
Man United vs. Arsenal   
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CENTRALBoth were injured in Wednesday's 2-0 victory over Portsmouth, which put the defending champion three points clear of Liverpool at the top.

Neville will miss both legs of the Champions League semifinal against Arsenal either along with domestic fixtures against Tottenham and Middlesbrough, manager Alex Ferguson said Friday.

O'Shea, however, is in contention to face Spurs on Saturday at Old Trafford. Right back Wes Brown may also be in the squad after coming through two reserve matches this week without any problems.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 27, 2009, 11:06:59 PM
Congrats, menus.  Allyuh have de EPL trophy tree straight.     

Thanks man, although i had to sift through all the kaka to get to it.  ::)

Doh study it. nex year u go make 2nd place for sure

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA..........


   Sifting through kaka, as you put it, should be no different from going to the concession stand or bathroom at old trafford at halftime.  Piece of cake for a menus.  :devil: 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 10:09:00 AM
WEBB ADMITS MISTAKE
Ref admits Man Utd penalty was a mistake
By Soccernet staff
April 29, 2009



 Referee Howard Webb has admitted that the penalty which sparked Manchester United's five-goal comeback in their Premier League match against Tottenham Hotspur at Old Trafford on Saturday was a mistake.


The Tottenham players rage at referee Howard Webb after he awarded the penalty

With Tottenham leading 2-0 after 57 minutes and United needing a win to reclaim top spot in the league from title rivals Liverpool, Sir Alex Ferguson's men were awarded a penalty after Webb ruled that Spurs goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes had fouled Michael Carrick.

Television replays showed that the keeper managed to palm the ball away to safety before colliding with the midfielder.

Cristiano Ronaldo converted the penalty which proved to be the catalyst for United who went on to overwhelm Spurs - scoring five goals in 22 minutes - in scintillating display which sealed a 5-2 win and a return to pole position in the Premier League.

''I've looked at it again and I think it was a mistake,'' Webb told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire. ''But we make these decisions honestly. It's not always easy to see the way the play pans out from pitch level.''

The referee who was selected as England's representative to referee in last summer's Euro 2008 championships added: ''I could see the Manchester United player touch the ball and saw him get clattered by the goalkeeper but didn't see the extra deviation from the goalkeeper's fingers touching the ball.

''I'm disappointed as I always strive for perfection. I'll look at the tape in detail later in the week and try to avoid it happening again in the future.

''I never want to have a negative impact on a game and I get no pleasure from not reaching the high standards we set ourselves.''

After the game, Spurs midfielder Jermaine Jenas criticised Webb's decision saying the referee ''crumbled under pressure.''

The Football Association have given Jenas seven days to explain his remarks, failure to do satisfactorily could see him hit with a disciplinary charge.

Jenas said: ''The atmosphere, the occasion, the importance of the match; a lot of factors take their toll when making decisions. One thing which struck me was that he didn't even think. It was like he'd already made his mind up when he came out for the second half that he was going to give something.

It is doubtful that Webb's acceptance that he made an error will have any bearing on Jenas's case.

Webb will get the chance to re-establish his credentials as England's best referee on Sunday when he takes charge of the highly-pressurised game between Reading and Birmingham City.

The match is crucial for both sides as it comes on the last day of the Championship season and could earn the winner automatic promotion to the Premier League.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on April 29, 2009, 10:13:07 AM
this should put the issue of whether or not it was a penalty to rest

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29042009/58/premier-league-webb-admits-penalty-mistake.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29042009/58/premier-league-webb-admits-penalty-mistake.html)

Quote
Premier League - Webb admits penalty mistake
Eurosport - Wed, 29 Apr 14:44:00 2009

Referee Howard Webb has admitted he was wrong to award a penalty to Manchester United in their Premier League clash against Tottenham Hotspur at Old Trafford.

(http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20090429/25/302b4de29bc80fed149e141413729d6a.jpg)

The visitors were leading 2-0 when Webb ruled that Spurs goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes had fouled Michael Carrick after 57 minutes when television replays showed he had palmed the ball away to safety before colliding with the midfielder.

Cristiano Ronaldo converted the penalty and put United back into the game, which they went on to win 5-2 to return to the top of the table.

Webb told the BBC: "I've looked at it again and I think it was a mistake but we make these decisions honestly.

"It's not always easy to see the way the play pans out from pitch level."

Speaking to BBC Radio Cambridgeshire, Webb added: "I could see the Manchester United player touch the ball and saw him get clattered by the goalkeeper but didn't see the extra deviation from the goalkeeper's fingers touching the ball.

"I'm disappointed as I always strive for perfection. I'll look at the tape in detail later in the week and try to avoid it happening again in the future.

"I never want to have a negative impact on a game and I get no pleasure from not reaching the high standards we set ourselves."

Spurs midfielder Jermaine Jenas criticised the decision saying that Webb "crumbled under pressure" and the player could now face disciplinary action from the Football Association over his comments.

The FA has given him seven days to explain his remarks after he was quoted as saying: "The atmosphere, the occasion, the importance of the match, a lot of factors take their toll when making decisions.

"One thing which struck me was that he didn't even think. It was like he'd already made his mind up when he came out for the second half that he was going to give something.

"I think it was a case of the referee crumbling under the pressure at Old Trafford really."

Webb will officiate at the Reading versus Birmingham City match on Sunday in the season's final round of Championship (second division) games. Both teams have a chance of earning automatic promotion to the Premier League.

Reuters
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2009, 07:45:30 AM
Easy win today

One step closer and we suppose to be equal on goal difference with liverpool too


 :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on May 02, 2009, 08:09:49 AM
6 points clear now
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 05, 2009, 03:22:42 PM
Hi Haters

WE ARE THE PRIDE OF ALL EUROPE!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW! CUZ IN ROME WE'LL WIN 2 IN A ROW


gutted for Fletch..totally undeserved but great game from every United player today

Lets crush those SHITEH f**ks on Sunday and win this league
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 10, 2009, 07:17:24 AM
city vs united  1-0 18min goal ronaldo

link
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=38287&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 10, 2009, 07:19:12 AM
2 nil tevez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 10, 2009, 08:26:49 AM
wtf ronaldo like he want to cry for getting sub  ???. anyway 2nil win
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 10, 2009, 08:49:52 AM
on to another EPL title.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 10, 2009, 09:12:43 AM
 :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 12, 2009, 04:49:15 PM
Wigan Chairman Champions Steve Bruce For Manchester United Job
Dave Whelan believes his manager is the man to succeed Sir Alex...
 
There has long been speculation over whom is best equipped to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson once the iron-willed knight calls the curtain down on an illustrious career at Manchester United.


Wigan Atheltic chairman Dave Whelan has added Steve Bruce's name to the mixer, claiming United's apparent confidence in managers from the home nations could be beneficial to Bruce's claim to the throne.



"United don't seem to appoint foreign managers," Whelan explained to Sky Sports News. "I can't remember one they have appointed.

"Steve Bruce in my mind is the best replacement for Sir Alex. I'd hate to lose him but it will be wonderful for Steve and wonderful for United."

He continued by stating that Ferguson's retirement date may be pushed back further than initially anticipated.


"But it is all on when Sir Alex retire. He is so good. He looks better than ever.

"He has got that glint in his eye and he is looking like he is enjoying every minute of it. I hope he carries on for another three or four years."

Internazionale manager Jose Mourinho, and Manchester City boss Mark Hughes, have all been touted for the United hotseat.

David Moyes, though, may boost his own credentials with an FA Cup win at the end of Everton's campaign.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 12, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
Please no mourihno
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 12, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
No Jose....dahs comess. moyes a good pick..maybe quieroz.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 13, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

1 point to go

2-1 FT vs Wigan away...Wigan played as if it was a cup final....f**k off

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 13, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D

1 point to go

2-1 FT vs Wigan away...Wigan played as if it was a cup final....f**k off



Glory Glory Man United.....................Weekend could lock it up :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 13, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
let de dance begin.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 13, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
His arse will be gone once Sir Wrigley decides it is time tuh go.

Sir Alex Ferguson is bullet-proof - he will not worry about Cristiano Ronaldo's histrionics 


By Oliver Holt 13/05/2009

 Mirror.co.uk

 
One interpretation of Cristiano Ronaldo’s absurd posturing on the Old Trafford touchline on Sunday was that it was a threat to Sir Alex Ferguson’s authority.

Well, let’s put that one right straight away.

Ronaldo may be a very fine footballer indeed but there’s nothing he can do, nothing he can say, no tantrum he can throw, no strop he can perform, that could affect the aura surrounding the Manchester United manager.

Standing on the touchline pouting like a diva isn’t going to do it and snatching a tracksuit top from an assistant and flinging it on the floor isn’t going to work either. He may be World Footballer of the Year but he hasn’t the power to destabilise Ferguson and never will have.

A win at Wigan tonight and a draw with Arsenal on Saturday will add yet another league title – his 11th – to Ferguson’s collection. To paraphrase the late BBC presenter Robin Day, why should United fans prefer a here-today-gone-tomorrow prima donna like Ronaldo over a man like Ferguson?

The time for challenging Ferguson’s authority passed a long, long time ago. Trust me, I should know. A few years back, in the midst of Fergie’s Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Rock of Gibraltar period, I suggested in a book he’d gone on too long.

Whoops-a-daisy. That ship has sailed. Ferguson could buy a couple of ring-tailed lemurs this summer and stick them up front with Wayne Rooney and I’d still back his judgment.

When he had won one Champions League trophy in 21 years at one of the world’s richest clubs, he was vulnerable to criticism. Now, he’s on the brink of winning his third and ending the argument about who is Britain’s most successful manager of all time, the man is bullet-proof. So when Ronaldo stands with his back to him on the touchline like a two-year-old, he just makes himself look like an utter fool.

The match against Manchester City was already won and Ferguson was paying Ronaldo a compliment by bringing him off to save his legs for the rest of the run-in.

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Everyone else could see that, just like everyone else can see that even though Ronaldo deserves to be hailed the best player in the world, the biggest loser if he leaves this summer will not be Ferguson or United. Of course, they’ll miss him if he picks up his teddies and jets off to Real Madrid. But not as much as Ronaldo will miss them.

Ferguson has built a squad at United that could withstand the departure of any single player.

Ronaldo has been a massive contributor to the success but I’d still back United to win the title again next season, with or without him.

With Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov up front and strength in depth all over the pitch, they’re too strong simply to wither away.

And if Ronaldo goes, Ferguson will buy big to add another attacking option. It might be Franck Ribery or Karim Benzema. Whoever it is, it will ensure United remain a formidable force at home and in Europe.

The same might not quite be true of the man last seen stamping his foot on the Old Trafford touchline. Real Madrid may hold a sentimental attachment for him but that will soon wear off when Barcelona are sticking six past them.

Ronaldo will make them a better team but won’t be a remedy for their core weaknesses in defence and organisation. If he goes to Madrid, it may be a while before he sees a Champions League Final again.

So the next time Ferguson calls him to the touchline, Ronaldo might be better served behaving like a man rather than a child. And realising he needs Ferguson more than Ferguson needs him.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 13, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
Ronaldo's attitude was shameful today towards Sir Alex... without United he was nothing.... and he repays us with panty man antics especially directed towards the gaffer!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 13, 2009, 04:21:14 PM
Ronaldo's attitude was shameful today towards Sir Alex... without United he was nothing.... and he repays us with panty man antics especially directed towards the gaffer!


I eh worried, Sir alex knows how to deal with these fellas.


Anyhow, good showing by tevez today......i hope the boss signs him and keeps him with us.
Wigan was putting up a decent enough fight, but great determination by Utd to come back and win......Thats the way Champs do it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on May 13, 2009, 08:25:27 PM
1 point need from 2 games remaining. plus we get to earn that point against Arsenal, sweet. Put out the big guns Fergie, let kill them @ home saturday.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 13, 2009, 08:49:04 PM


Ronaldo will make them a better team but won’t be a remedy for their core weaknesses in defence and organisation. If he goes to Madrid, it may be a while before he sees a Champions League Final again.



SO TRUE THIS,

on a side note he get on like a rel imps Sunday i didnt like it at all. Say what fergie go deal with that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on May 13, 2009, 10:34:23 PM


Ronaldo will make them a better team but won’t be a remedy for their core weaknesses in defence and organisation. If he goes to Madrid, it may be a while before he sees a Champions League Final again.



SO TRUE THIS,

on a side note he get on like a rel imps Sunday i didnt like it at all. Say what fergie go deal with that
and he continued his impish ways today too...in the second half  of the game against Wigan, Tevez set him up for a nice bullet on top the box and Ronaldo hit one dotish shot overbar. Fergie was pissed and was bubblin up bad on de touch line, Ronaldo look at him from de pitch and like he mouth off "...whaz your problem...". I could never understand how men with so much talent on de field have such a piss poor attitude...
Ah have a feeling if / when he leaves for Real, Fergie will look at pullin in Ribery.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on May 14, 2009, 02:16:51 AM
found this 1 of the boy wonder...

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8856/ronaldoo.gif)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on May 14, 2009, 04:24:15 AM
in the words of stewie,"what the hell?" :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 14, 2009, 06:48:37 AM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 14, 2009, 06:56:15 AM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: trinikev on May 14, 2009, 08:06:31 AM
found this 1 of the boy wonder...

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8856/ronaldoo.gif)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 14, 2009, 08:13:25 AM
found this 1 of the boy wonder...

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8856/ronaldoo.gif)


  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

he look more scared than anything
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: nnyman18 on May 14, 2009, 03:33:45 PM
Ronnie's thoughts "Whey and me gul say tha man drop she home last night and it was no scene. I ain't to sure about that now nah"  ??? ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 14, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
 
[/b]Manchester United are on the verge of signing Brazilian teenager Dodo in a £5 million deal.
 
By Telegraph staff
Last Updated: 9:27AM BST 13 May 2009

 Brazilian magic: Dodo will find compatriots in the Premier League Photo: AFP
The 17-year-old defender - full name Jose Rodolfo Pires Ribeiro Dodo - plays for Corinthians in his native Brazil, but reports suggest he will complete a move to Old Trafford in February 2010.

Dodo, who has a Portuguese background, holds an EC passport which means the proposed move will not get bogged down in red tape. And the player himself is looking forward to playing for the Premier League and European champions, who already have a number of Brazilians on their books, most notably the Da Silva twins, Fabio and Rafael, and Anderson.

Dodo, who is a member of the Brazil U17 national side, said: "As there are already some Brazilians in England, I suppose that I am going to get adapted easier.

"I have never played with the Fabio and Rafael, neither with Anderson, but it's good for me to have them near. Even Cristiano Ronaldo as he speaks in Portuguese.

"I returned from being on duty with the U17 national team and only had time to be with my parents for a few hours. I received the instructions to travel to England.

"Every player dreams to play in the national team and then be transferred to a European team. I am doing that.

"Next year I will join the first team of Manchester United. I am going to play next to the best players of the world."
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 14, 2009, 09:08:32 PM
the amount ah men i see they sign that never play lol in the past
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on May 14, 2009, 10:58:07 PM
my mudder use to call me dat ...DODO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: scarface on May 15, 2009, 03:34:55 AM
my mudder use to call me dat ...DODO

& was it followed by the word "head" when she called u that?  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 15, 2009, 04:48:48 AM
my mudder use to call me dat ...DODO

& was it followed by the word "head" when she called u that?  ;D

LOL @ Scarface......Damn Big mag uo taking dat soooooooooooooooooooo..................

Setting basket
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2009, 07:30:14 AM
 :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on May 15, 2009, 07:39:40 AM
is true...head was included...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 15, 2009, 07:48:25 AM
One..what position does he play?

Two...dahs 5 Brazillians now...de twins...ando....possebon...and dodo. Hmm...and all young. Interesting.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
One..what position does he play?

Two...dahs 5 Brazillians now...de twins...ando....possebon...and dodo. Hmm...and all young. Interesting.

Center back; likened to a Rio type of defender.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 15, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
One..what position does he play?


who ?DODO head?  :rotfl: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2009, 05:30:48 PM

My boy! There is only one Ryan Giggs!

Why Ryan Giggs feels this season is the best yet


Socks rolled down, shin-pads out, Ryan Giggs's legs reveal the cost of glory. His right shin is a shredded-to-ribbons mess, scarred with cuts and bruises sustained guiding the ball through hostile territory. Manchester United suffer for their beautiful art.
 
By Henry Winter, Football Correspondent
Last Updated: 10:01PM BST 15 May 2009

 Just champion: Ryan Giggs, who can win his 11th league winners' medal against Arsenal today, says he is delighted to have been voted PFA Player of the Year Photo: PA
As United search for the point against Arsenal today that brings an 18th title, and an 11th for Giggs, the really scary part for their rivals is their enduring toughness as well as their talent, their willingness to absorb the impact of an opponent's fury en route to goal. Sir Alex Ferguson and his players crave more: more challenges, more trophies.

Long acquaintance with victory podiums has simply deepened the hunger of competitors like Giggs. His story is United's story, an insight into the psyche of champions. "The first time I won the league [in 1993], I celebrated for a week,'' recalls Giggs, a sinewy 35-year-old sitting at Carrington, awaiting the cherished call for training.

Sir Alex Ferguson's Manchester United are made of right stuff"With the way it ended in Barcelona [snatching the Champions League in 1999], the buzz lasted ages. It was just a dream that we had been trying to do since we won the league. In Moscow last year, I had a few beers and was one of the first up to bed. I was thinking about next year, got to do back-to-back Champions Leagues, that's the challenge, no one has ever done it.''

Giggs believes United can dominate this era as Real Madrid, Ajax, Liverpool and AC Milan owned past decades. "We are definitely capable of that because of the [relatively young] age of the team. If we win it in Rome [against Barcelona] it will give us unbelievable confidence to do it again next season.''

Three in a row?! "I look for challenges – that's what drives me on. When we lose, it is a little easier to take because I come home, my daughter says something funny, and that's it, I just relax. But I am moody. I go through what I could have done better. I can't wait for the next game to put it right.

"A lot of people said I couldn't top last season, breaking the appearance record of Sir Bobby Charlton, scoring against Wigan [to win title] and the Champions League final, but it's been better this season. I have enjoyed this season more than any other.''

His peers voted him Player of the Year and he finished runners-up to Steven Gerrard in the writers' poll. "Personal awards come second to winning leagues but I was really pleased to get that PFA award – at 35. Over the last couple of weeks, I've got 'How have you won the PFA Player of the Year?' I got it at Middlesbrough. Just as I was taking a corner, the whole stand sang: 'Player of the year? You're having a laugh!' Brilliant! I scored straight after so I gave them a wave!

"I get opposing fans saying they respect me, which is great to hear. I was at Chester Races the other week, and a couple of people came up and said: 'We're Scousers, we're Liverpool fans but we respect you and the way you play'.''

United themselves generate more respect because of the intoxicating nature of their football, for their resilience and also because they are less confrontational than before. "The characters have definitely changed from the players in the past like Roy [Keane], Sparky [Mark Hughes], Peter Schmeichel, [Eric] Cantona,'' agrees Giggs.

"Wayne [Rooney] is a bit like that with his fiery attitude but it's a different sort of steely attitude we have got. Those players were all great footballers but when it went wrong, they could stick the foot in as well. We are more dependent on our footballing ability. But we are not a soft touch. We have tough players right through the spine of the team – Rooney, Scholesy, Vidic. There's a good team spirit, It's not a quiet team. No! Not with Gary [Neville] about!''

Thinking of Neville and Rio Ferdinand, Giggs argues that the dressing-room teems with captaincy-types. "There are a lot of natural leaders – and leaders among the young players like Cristiano Ronaldo and Rooney. Anderson could be. Because of his nature, his enthusiasm, everybody loves him.

"Ronaldo is a leader because of the way he plays. He gets respect because of what he has achieved in such a short space of time. He has every attribute to be the best player in the world. Ronaldo is a strong character which he needs with what he's gone through.

"Physically, he's unbelievable, strong, tough. I have seen the cynical tackles made on Ronaldo – worse than the tackles made 15 years ago. Cristiano takes more tackles than anyone else. His ankles are [battered]. He has also had a good apprenticeship. The first couple of years were quiet for him, and people were 'umming' and 'arring' [about whether he'd make it]. He worked hard on his game.''

Everyone at United works hard: the legacy of Cantona. "Eric would always stay out, practising shooting and we'd stay out with him. It's almost become second nature. The manager was always calling us in! He was worried we'd get injured booting too many balls, tiring ourselves out.''

The manager. Ferguson's astonishing hunger "filters down to the staff and the players'', Giggs observes. "He has so many qualities. His man-management is very, very good. Because he has that instant respect, when he says 'I'm not playing you this week, I'm saving you for another week' I trust him.''

Has Ferguson changed? "He doesn't go off his head as much as he used to! That's maturing. He's also happy with the players he has got over the last four or five years and the football we've been playing. Even when Chelsea won the league a couple of times [2005 and 2006], he had the patience to know this team will be good in a couple of years.''

Ferguson has also developed the team from the 4-4-2 to the more fluid 4-3-3. "The manager wanted to change it after the European Cup [of 99] and not to become too predictable. Back then, we were so used to playing 4-4-2. Now it [4-3-3] is second nature. Wayne can play upfront on his own, on the left. Cristiano can play anywhere. He's got the ability to play through the middle – he scores important goals. Where do you have your goalscorer?! Upfront! Maybe if he plays on the wing, people can pick him up more.

"It's a lot more flexible. Carrick, Fletch, Scholes, myself – we have so many personnel to do it. I think to myself: 'Have I always been a central midfielder?!' When I was quicker, I played just off the front a lot of times, off Ruud [van Nistelrooy] and Andy Cole, so playing more central is not strange to me.''

Giggs began as a flying winger, leaving right-backs with "twisted blood'' in Ferguson's great phrase. Not all. "Inter's Javier Zanetti was difficult to play against – tough, quick, strong, runs forward. So was Cafu, another nightmare. I was running back all the time. With 4-4-2 my job was to look after the right-back. If he got a cross in, it was my fault.

"I always found it hard against Lee Dixon. Experienced players always know when to close you down, when to let have you the ball. The first few minutes Dixon would let me know he was about, put his foot in, and get away with it! The next time I'd get the ball, I'd think: 'Is he going to do it again'?''

Giggs laments the passing of famous old arenas like Dixon's old Arsenal stamping ground. "The Emirates is nothing like Highbury. I like the old grounds, places where they test you. We never used to do well down at The Dell. I like atmospheres like Anfield and Elland Road, experiencing the ferocity of the fans towards you, the intense rivalry. We knew we had to perform. When I was younger, I used to get abuse off the Leeds fans, who sang things like 'There's only one spotty virgin'.

"I like the intense atmosphere where we are not just playing the team, we are playing their fans as well. I've never experienced anything like Galatasaray. Two hours before kick-off, we went out to have a look at the pitch and the stadium was packed! The chanting was brilliant: one side starts, then the other, then quiet, then all of them chanting! The players really enjoyed it. Before it was good, after it wasn't!'' (United's players ran the gauntlet of riot police and fans, who bricked their coach.)

Giggs will miss all this, the camaraderie, the pursuit of trophies. Yet he shows no sign of losing his edge, physically or mentally. "I am heavier, not as quick, but my body is more flexible through doing yoga. Rest is really, really important. After a game, I'm knackered. I go home and get into bed at 7pm, watch TV and have an early night.''

And the future? Management? Giggs pauses. He has begun acquiring his coaching badges. "When I did the course at Lilleshall last year, I was nervous. I was crap at the beginning but the more I did, the more I enjoyed it. People fall into management. You see Alan Shearer now – he will probably be there [at Newcastle United] for 10 years. Sparky fell into the Welsh job. I hear you get the bug. After playing, what do you do? You look for another challenge. Football's my life.''
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 15, 2009, 07:43:47 PM
hopefully we will wrap it up tom.LETS GO UNITED.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 15, 2009, 07:55:42 PM
Did,nt UTD signed a players from Angola called Manucho or something like that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 15, 2009, 09:54:10 PM
Did,nt UTD signed a players from Angola called Manucho or something like that.

He on loan at Hull.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
what time this game is?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 06:20:18 AM
ARSENAL VS MAN UTD

LINKS

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=39035&part=sports

0-0 30 MIN

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 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2009, 06:46:18 AM
steups...i thought games was starting 8.45 yes.....i miss first half...

anyhow....lets go Utd.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 16, 2009, 07:09:22 AM
Fergie thankful for Gunners helpby RivalsDM
Sir Alex Ferguson claims equalling Liverpool's record of championship wins was the last thing on his mind when he joined United in 1986.
     
The Merseyside giants had finished top on 18 occasions before Manchester United managed their first triumph under Ferguson in 1993.

At the time, it seemed like a seminal moment in itself. Little could Ferguson have imagined that 16 years later he would stand on the brink of matching the Anfield outfit, who he famously told he would "knock off their perch" when he first came south from Aberdeen.

United will not knock Liverpool off their perch by getting the point against Arsenal on Saturday that would see them collect an 11th Premier League.

However, it will be enough to let them shuffle up alongside, knowing one more big shove could tumble Rafael Benitez's men off altogether.

"I never even thought about moving level with Liverpool," said Ferguson.

"My first intention was to win one and break the stranglehold Liverpool had on the title.

"You don't think about how it would open the door in terms of what we see now. The big challenge was that first one."

Ironically it took Arsenal's assistance to prise away Liverpool's dominance of the domestic game.

In winning titles under George Graham in 1989 and 1991, the Gunners showed United the correct path to follow.

They could not quite make it in 1992. But 12 months later began an era of unparalleled success, and it has taken just 17 seasons to complete 11 championship wins, compared to the 18 Liverpool managed it in from 1973.

"We were a long way behind in terms of titles won," acknowledged Ferguson.
 
"But we were helped by Arsenal winning it a couple of times. That changed the picture a little bit."

Ironically, United are venturing into new territory on Saturday.

Of those last 11 successes, only one was completed in front of their own fans at Old Trafford.

And in 1999 it was very much a do-or-die encounter with Tottenham, in which they trailed before David Beckham and Andy Cole scored the goals that sealed the first part of that historic treble.

This time around, the Red Devils approach their date with destiny knowing they have another - at Hull next Sunday - in reserve should things go wrong.

Nevertheless, Ferguson is eager to get the job done immediately, to give his players the maximum preparation time for the Champions League final with Barcelona in Rome on May 27.


The desire to put on a performance for the world's fastest man, Usain Bolt, who was at United's Carrington training ground this morning and will be in the director's box to watch his favourite team tomorrow is a bonus, as is the strength of United's opponents.

Arsenal may have suffered another fearful home battering by Chelsea since their own European dream was crushed by the Red Devils.

Yet Ferguson knows their presence should ensure no-one in his squad starts to think the job has already been completed.

"Arsenal are a threat," he said.

"They are a good side with great potential which you cannot dismiss.

"Without question they will attack us. They will not change the way they play.

"We expected two good games in the semi-final and we got them and that is the way it will be tomorrow.

"They have had a bit of criticism recently and they will want to register their abilities on a day when everyone expects Manchester United to win the title."

While Arsenal may well give a better account of themselves, few outside Anfield believe United will be denied now.

Rio Ferdinand's ongoing calf problem means he will join Bolt in the stands, but everyone else will want to be involved to launch the trophy presentation in style.

"I have always said I don't care where we win it," said Ferguson.

"It is unusual and strange that we have won it four times elsewhere but only done it once out of 10 at Old Trafford.

"Now we have another opportunity to win it in front of our own fans tomorrow. It would be nice to do it."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
STUEPS i dont want tevez to leave, sell slow poke  :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 07:45:02 AM
hard luck the trophy is ours bitches  :beermug:

(http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/confetti.gif)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 16, 2009, 07:47:21 AM
hard luck the trophy is ours bitches  :beermug:

(http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/confetti.gif)

Congratulations Man U.

It took you twenty years, but you've finally tied Liverpool's mark.

Well Done.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2009, 07:48:45 AM
WE are the CHAMPIONS...my friends........... (& haters)
We are the champions
we are the champions
no one can beat us
cause we are the champions......

 :cheers: :wavetowel: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :party: :whip: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2009, 07:50:41 AM
hard luck the trophy is ours bitches  :beermug:

(http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/confetti.gif)

Congratulations Man U.

It took you twenty years, but you've finally tied Liverpool's mark.

Well Done.

 ;D

Thanks but how many years it took u to make that mark? allyuh come like west indies.....boasting on past glories ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on May 16, 2009, 07:51:31 AM
Congrats UNITED, well done.  :devil:


Glory Glory Man-United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on May 16, 2009, 07:51:52 AM
well done Braveheart and Man U
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 16, 2009, 07:53:01 AM
Not clean but ah go take it.....Glory Glory Man United......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2009, 07:55:37 AM
Well worth the wait, always got to make things difficult! I am glad Berba and Raphael got medals, looking forward to seeing their faces when they get them.
Thank God I am a United fan and that's a FACT!
Rooonay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won a bet from a Liverstool fan so I will be getting my Roooonay shirt courtesy of that Liverstool fan!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 07:57:05 AM
18 times that's a fact  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 16, 2009, 07:59:35 AM
hard luck the trophy is ours bitches  :beermug:

(http://209.85.62.26/12318/36/emo/confetti.gif)

Congratulations Man U.

It took you twenty years, but you've finally tied Liverpool's mark.

Well Done.

 ;D

Thanks but how many years it took u to make that mark? allyuh come like west indies.....boasting on past glories ;D

Touché.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2009, 08:00:49 AM
Liverstool still hasn't won the EPL and that's a FACT! Are you watching yuh extra fat Spanish waiter?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 08:02:43 AM
thank god they aint cut meh feed i want to see the trophy presentation
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2009, 08:04:55 AM
thank god they aint cut meh feed i want to see the trophy presentation

Like the camera man/woman sleeping cause we seeing on Setanta is crowd shots! Steeeeups!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
dey cut it now :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 16, 2009, 08:17:16 AM
thank god for live streams AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RED DEVILS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 16, 2009, 08:18:31 AM
CHAMPIONS CHAMPIONS CHAMPIONS

18 TIMES AND THAT'S A FACT

ARE YOU WATCHING MERSEYSIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on May 16, 2009, 08:20:53 AM
Liverstool still hasn't won the EPL and that's a FACT!
eh?
dais ah technicality
they had won the Football League before 1992 not so? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 08:35:16 AM
1 more for quadruple   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 16, 2009, 08:38:09 AM
Yuh think Torres regretting that he went to Liverfool and not United  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2009, 08:54:58 AM
Liverstool still hasn't won the EPL and that's a FACT!
eh?
dais ah technicality
they had won the Football League before 1992 not so? ;D

Westcoast wey yuh been? Ah hope I aint blowing yuh cover! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2009, 09:23:32 AM
Liverstool still hasn't won the EPL and that's a FACT!
eh?
dais ah technicality
they had won the Football League before 1992 not so? ;D

Westcoast wey yuh been? Ah hope I aint blowing yuh cover! ;D

 :o WHATTTT!!   Werklmann is really west coast?  :timeout:

;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2009, 09:35:08 AM
he does never fool me, he post count does give him away  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on May 16, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
FACKT
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on May 16, 2009, 10:39:45 AM
Congrats Manchester United. Best team this season, and well deserved.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 16, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
I will say congratulations.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 16, 2009, 02:35:16 PM
Manchester United crowned Premier League championsAssociated Press
Manchester United won a third title in a row Saturday with a 0-0 draw against Arsenal that produced the point required to clinch its record-equaling 18th championship.
   
When Alex Ferguson took over at Old Trafford in 1986 he declared he wanted to knock the then dominant Liverpool "off their perch," and his side has now matched Liverpool's title record.

"That was the target because they were the greatest side in the land," Ferguson said. "But I never thought we could get 11 titles - never in a million years."

The 67-year-old Scot said he had no plans to retire anytime soon.

"It makes you want to go on for ever," Ferguson said.

Ryan Giggs has been part of United's team for each of its 11 Premier League triumphs masterminded by Ferguson since the 1992-3 season.

"It's been a special time at the club since the manager took over and we've managed to win so much," Giggs said. "Hopefully we can carry on."

Giggs won't have long to wait for another medal. The Welshman can win a third European Cup - and deliver Ferguson's 26th major trophy with United - in the May 27 final against Barcelona.

The draw put United out of reach of second-place Liverpool, which is seven points behind and has two games to play.

"It was the longest 90 minutes in history," Ferguson said. "There was only one save in the match - it was a cautious match."

Despite a lackluster game, the final whistle set off a massive title celebration at Old Trafford as the team was presented with the Premier League trophy on the field, with the players hugging and spraying champagne on each other.

The trophy was carried onto the pitch by four soldiers who have just returned from a four-month tour of duty in Afghanistan.
And as the medals were presented and fireworks exploded, the rain that had lashed onto the pitch throughout the match cleared and Old Trafford was bathed in sunshine.

The title is Gary Neville's eighth and the 34-year-old captain immediately set his sights on next year.

"(Liverpool) pushed us really hard this season. Next season, we've got our work cut out to go and do it again," the defender said.

While powered this season by goals from Cristiano Ronaldo and top-quality performances from strikers Rooney and Carlos Tevez, United also had a rock solid defense which led to goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar setting a British record by going 1,311 minutes without conceding a goal.

United's players had a wobble in March, however, when they lost to Liverpool and Fulham before starting a winning streak that took it clear of its rivals.

The post-match focus was also on the players who might be leaving Old Trafford in the off season, most notably Tevez and Ronaldo, who was denied a transfer to Real Madrid last summer.

When Tevez was substituted in the second half he applauded the fans and seemed to wave goodbye.

Asked if he was leaving the club, the Argentina striker said in broken English: "Maybe goodbye... It's very difficult."

As for Ronaldo, the world player of the year was noncommittal when asked whether he was still eager to move on.

"The supporters screaming and singing your name it's amazing but the future you never know," he said.
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Post by: dinho on May 16, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
congrats
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 16, 2009, 03:08:10 PM
congrats
omar hopefully allyuh will get de FA Cup. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
congrats
omar hopefully allyuh will get de FA Cup. ;D

no way jose!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
Tevez has been flapping his gums a little to much, and acting like he is a damn victim-I think his approach is not going to help his cause.  Go already!


Manchester United chief executive David Gilll says he expects a deal for Carlos Tevez to be completed by early June despite the Argentinean saying he does not expect to be at Old Trafford next year.
 

By Emily Benammar and agencies
Last Updated: 1:13PM BST 17 May 2009
 
Tevez's future has become a hot topic, with United fans urging the club to keep the striker following the end of his two-year loan spell this summer.

After winning the Premier League title over the weekend, Tevez accused the club of not showing him enough respect.

  “I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” he said. "I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It's not about whether they pay £5 million more or £5 million less, but I feel I have been badly treated.

“I've been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it's best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don't play in the team.”

Remaining focused on what stand to be his final two matches in a United shirt, the 25-year-old insisted he will not hold any talks or consider any offers until after the Champions League final on May 27.

“I've asked [adviser] Kia [Joorabchian] not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days,” he said. “I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play.

"Afterwards, I've got a month to take a decision and choose where to go."

Gill however, seems optimistic that United can strike a deal with Tevez’s owners by early June.

Speaking to BBC Five Live, he confirmed that club and representatives have met to discuss a deal worth in the region of £25 million.

“The actual situation will be cleared up in early June,” he said. “Carlos has done very well. We'd like him to stay but the actual economic situation needs to be clarified.”

Having agreed with Kia Joorabchian that negotiations should no longer continue through the press, Gill added: “It is an unusual situation. When we did our deal to acquire Carlos two years ago, his economic rights were owned by a company controlled by Kia Joorabchian. That's a feature of a lot of South American players.

"We have to deal with Kia Joorabchian - we paid a loan fee for two years, then there is a fixed fee we have to pay his company if we wish to take up our option to acquire Carlos, at which point we would own him 100 per cent in football terms, and any other club would deal with us.

"Whatever happens to him in the summer, that situation will be clarified. If he goes to another club in the Premier League, then that club would own him outright.”
 
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Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2009, 09:38:55 AM
d man playing the media for he own good lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 17, 2009, 09:54:01 AM
Tevez has been flapping his gums a little to much, and acting like he is a damn victim-I think his approach is not going to help his cause.  Go already!


Manchester United chief executive David Gilll says he expects a deal for Carlos Tevez to be completed by early June despite the Argentinean saying he does not expect to be at Old Trafford next year.
 

By Emily Benammar and agencies
Last Updated: 1:13PM BST 17 May 2009
 
Tevez's future has become a hot topic, with United fans urging the club to keep the striker following the end of his two-year loan spell this summer.

After winning the Premier League title over the weekend, Tevez accused the club of not showing him enough respect.

  “I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” he said. "I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It's not about whether they pay £5 million more or £5 million less, but I feel I have been badly treated.

“I've been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it's best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don't play in the team.”

Remaining focused on what stand to be his final two matches in a United shirt, the 25-year-old insisted he will not hold any talks or consider any offers until after the Champions League final on May 27.

“I've asked [adviser] Kia [Joorabchian] not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days,” he said. “I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play.

"Afterwards, I've got a month to take a decision and choose where to go."

Gill however, seems optimistic that United can strike a deal with Tevez’s owners by early June.

Speaking to BBC Five Live, he confirmed that club and representatives have met to discuss a deal worth in the region of £25 million.

“The actual situation will be cleared up in early June,” he said. “Carlos has done very well. We'd like him to stay but the actual economic situation needs to be clarified.”

Having agreed with Kia Joorabchian that negotiations should no longer continue through the press, Gill added: “It is an unusual situation. When we did our deal to acquire Carlos two years ago, his economic rights were owned by a company controlled by Kia Joorabchian. That's a feature of a lot of South American players.

"We have to deal with Kia Joorabchian - we paid a loan fee for two years, then there is a fixed fee we have to pay his company if we wish to take up our option to acquire Carlos, at which point we would own him 100 per cent in football terms, and any other club would deal with us.

"Whatever happens to him in the summer, that situation will be clarified. If he goes to another club in the Premier League, then that club would own him outright.”
 


No one is bigger than the Club Tev... Dont blame United for your overvalued Fee... Blame yuh owner

We will not be held to hostage and If he opens his mouth and disrespects The Club the manager and the board he could f**k off to wherever Kia sells him

I want him to stay but I'm becoming frustrated with his immaturity...It's a complex situation and no need to cry about it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2009, 10:05:58 AM
Tevez has been flapping his gums a little to much, and acting like he is a damn victim-I think his approach is not going to help his cause.  Go already!


Manchester United chief executive David Gilll says he expects a deal for Carlos Tevez to be completed by early June despite the Argentinean saying he does not expect to be at Old Trafford next year.
 

By Emily Benammar and agencies
Last Updated: 1:13PM BST 17 May 2009
 
Tevez's future has become a hot topic, with United fans urging the club to keep the striker following the end of his two-year loan spell this summer.

After winning the Premier League title over the weekend, Tevez accused the club of not showing him enough respect.

  “I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” he said. "I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It's not about whether they pay £5 million more or £5 million less, but I feel I have been badly treated.

“I've been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it's best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don't play in the team.”

Remaining focused on what stand to be his final two matches in a United shirt, the 25-year-old insisted he will not hold any talks or consider any offers until after the Champions League final on May 27.

“I've asked [adviser] Kia [Joorabchian] not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days,” he said. “I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play.

"Afterwards, I've got a month to take a decision and choose where to go."

Gill however, seems optimistic that United can strike a deal with Tevez’s owners by early June.

Speaking to BBC Five Live, he confirmed that club and representatives have met to discuss a deal worth in the region of £25 million.

“The actual situation will be cleared up in early June,” he said. “Carlos has done very well. We'd like him to stay but the actual economic situation needs to be clarified.”

Having agreed with Kia Joorabchian that negotiations should no longer continue through the press, Gill added: “It is an unusual situation. When we did our deal to acquire Carlos two years ago, his economic rights were owned by a company controlled by Kia Joorabchian. That's a feature of a lot of South American players.

"We have to deal with Kia Joorabchian - we paid a loan fee for two years, then there is a fixed fee we have to pay his company if we wish to take up our option to acquire Carlos, at which point we would own him 100 per cent in football terms, and any other club would deal with us.

"Whatever happens to him in the summer, that situation will be clarified. If he goes to another club in the Premier League, then that club would own him outright.”
 


No one is bigger than the Club Tev... Dont blame United for your overvalued Fee... Blame yuh owner

We will not be held to hostage and If he opens his mouth and disrespects The Club the manager and the board he could f**k off to wherever Kia sells him

I want him to stay but I'm becoming frustrated with his immaturity...It's a complex situation and no need to cry about it


Ah waitin for him tuh sign with Liverstool and the manager doesn't talk tuh him and then he eats bench because the aloof fat spanish waiter picks the tireless, headless, donkey that is Kuyt ahead of him. Oh it should be fun! Keano duece!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 17, 2009, 07:03:51 PM
Tevez has been flapping his gums a little to much, and acting like he is a damn victim-I think his approach is not going to help his cause.  Go already!


Manchester United chief executive David Gilll says he expects a deal for Carlos Tevez to be completed by early June despite the Argentinean saying he does not expect to be at Old Trafford next year.
 

By Emily Benammar and agencies
Last Updated: 1:13PM BST 17 May 2009
 
Tevez's future has become a hot topic, with United fans urging the club to keep the striker following the end of his two-year loan spell this summer.

After winning the Premier League title over the weekend, Tevez accused the club of not showing him enough respect.

  “I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” he said. "I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It's not about whether they pay £5 million more or £5 million less, but I feel I have been badly treated.

“I've been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it's best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don't play in the team.”

Remaining focused on what stand to be his final two matches in a United shirt, the 25-year-old insisted he will not hold any talks or consider any offers until after the Champions League final on May 27.

“I've asked [adviser] Kia [Joorabchian] not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days,” he said. “I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play.

"Afterwards, I've got a month to take a decision and choose where to go."

Gill however, seems optimistic that United can strike a deal with Tevez’s owners by early June.

Speaking to BBC Five Live, he confirmed that club and representatives have met to discuss a deal worth in the region of £25 million.

“The actual situation will be cleared up in early June,” he said. “Carlos has done very well. We'd like him to stay but the actual economic situation needs to be clarified.”

Having agreed with Kia Joorabchian that negotiations should no longer continue through the press, Gill added: “It is an unusual situation. When we did our deal to acquire Carlos two years ago, his economic rights were owned by a company controlled by Kia Joorabchian. That's a feature of a lot of South American players.

"We have to deal with Kia Joorabchian - we paid a loan fee for two years, then there is a fixed fee we have to pay his company if we wish to take up our option to acquire Carlos, at which point we would own him 100 per cent in football terms, and any other club would deal with us.

"Whatever happens to him in the summer, that situation will be clarified. If he goes to another club in the Premier League, then that club would own him outright.”
 


No one is bigger than the Club Tev... Dont blame United for your overvalued Fee... Blame yuh owner

We will not be held to hostage and If he opens his mouth and disrespects The Club the manager and the board he could f**k off to wherever Kia sells him

I want him to stay but I'm becoming frustrated with his immaturity...It's a complex situation and no need to cry about it

Yeah but United agreed to the "overvalued fee" two years ago. It is not Tevez' fault that they now think it is too much and want to change the deal. In fact he has a right to be aggrieved.

I undertsand why United thinks the price is too high now, for a while this season it appeared that Tevez was always going to bench for Berbatov and 22 M is too much for a sub. Thisngs change since they made teh initial agreement but that is not his fault. United also knew what they were getting into with Joorabchian and his convoluted dealings back then. Yuh can't disagree with how he does his business now.

But overall, Tevez has shown real class. Didn't complain when being benched and hasn't been making noise in the media to distract the team. And his performances have been top notch. All of the recent interest is driven by his owner and the club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 17, 2009, 07:10:35 PM
Tevez has been flapping his gums a little to much, and acting like he is a damn victim-I think his approach is not going to help his cause.  Go already!


Manchester United chief executive David Gilll says he expects a deal for Carlos Tevez to be completed by early June despite the Argentinean saying he does not expect to be at Old Trafford next year.
 

By Emily Benammar and agencies
Last Updated: 1:13PM BST 17 May 2009
 
Tevez's future has become a hot topic, with United fans urging the club to keep the striker following the end of his two-year loan spell this summer.

After winning the Premier League title over the weekend, Tevez accused the club of not showing him enough respect.

  “I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” he said. "I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It's not about whether they pay £5 million more or £5 million less, but I feel I have been badly treated.

“I've been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it's best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don't play in the team.”

Remaining focused on what stand to be his final two matches in a United shirt, the 25-year-old insisted he will not hold any talks or consider any offers until after the Champions League final on May 27.

“I've asked [adviser] Kia [Joorabchian] not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days,” he said. “I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play.

"Afterwards, I've got a month to take a decision and choose where to go."

Gill however, seems optimistic that United can strike a deal with Tevez’s owners by early June.

Speaking to BBC Five Live, he confirmed that club and representatives have met to discuss a deal worth in the region of £25 million.

“The actual situation will be cleared up in early June,” he said. “Carlos has done very well. We'd like him to stay but the actual economic situation needs to be clarified.”

Having agreed with Kia Joorabchian that negotiations should no longer continue through the press, Gill added: “It is an unusual situation. When we did our deal to acquire Carlos two years ago, his economic rights were owned by a company controlled by Kia Joorabchian. That's a feature of a lot of South American players.

"We have to deal with Kia Joorabchian - we paid a loan fee for two years, then there is a fixed fee we have to pay his company if we wish to take up our option to acquire Carlos, at which point we would own him 100 per cent in football terms, and any other club would deal with us.

"Whatever happens to him in the summer, that situation will be clarified. If he goes to another club in the Premier League, then that club would own him outright.”
 


No one is bigger than the Club Tev... Dont blame United for your overvalued Fee... Blame yuh owner

We will not be held to hostage and If he opens his mouth and disrespects The Club the manager and the board he could f**k off to wherever Kia sells him

I want him to stay but I'm becoming frustrated with his immaturity...It's a complex situation and no need to cry about it

Nah man smalls, yuh lashin' de man unfairly.

The man is legitimately voicing his view on certain things that are reasonable.  He has not acted like he is bigger than the club- his gracious exit out of the game this weekend, and his undying commitment and work rate on the field is testament to that.  He's proven himself to be an exemplary professional and he is within his rights to speak up about things that disappoint him....and he's managed to do so without coming off as disrespectful.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 17, 2009, 07:31:57 PM
Vidic bags double award(PA) Monday 18 May 2009
Nemanja Vidic completed a personal double on Sunday as he was named Manchester United player of the year by both fans and his fellow players.

Vidic picked up both awards after a season in which his formidable partnership at the back with Rio Ferdinand has played a major part in helping United retain their league title. The Serbia defender was delighted at the recognition for his achievements this season. "It's a great night for me," he said. "I'm really surprised, but I'm enjoying it.

"In my career I have never really had individual awards," said Vidic. "I am honoured especially when I see the players who I play every day with. It's amazing to get this award. I'm very happy. Thank you. I developed here as a player. Thank you to the players and the coaching staff," he said.

"Since I came here three and a half years ago, I have progressed every year and I'm proud of that. I enjoy it here. I like being with the players and I'm very happy here," said Vidic.


It's amazing to get this award. I'm very happy. Thank you.

Manchester United defender Nemanja Vidic


Team-mate Ryan Giggs has no doubt it was the right choice. "So many players have had a good season," he said. "But it has to be Nemanja for me. Consistently throughout the season he's been brilliant."

Cristiano Ronaldo, who won both awards last season, did not end the night empty-handed as he once again received the goal of the season prize for his stunning effort at Porto in the second leg of their UEFA Champions League quarter-final.

Seventeen-year-old Federico Macheda, who burst onto the scene with the winner against Aston Villa on his debut, was named academy player of the year and James Chester clinched the reserve team prize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 18, 2009, 09:59:45 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 18, 2009, 10:04:35 AM

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See wha money could do.

The man looking like something out of Lord of the Rings but have ah best thing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 18, 2009, 10:11:08 AM
Scholes wife looks like she cud blaze he tail if he gets out of hand.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 18, 2009, 10:34:09 AM
Van Der Sar & Scholes musta been dating those women before they became rich & famous. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 18, 2009, 10:49:53 AM
Sometimes they better than them gold diggers that does turn up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 18, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
Van Der Sar & Scholes musta been dating those women before they became rich & famous. 

well at least they know they not after their money
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 18, 2009, 11:35:48 AM
Van Der Sar & Scholes musta been dating those women before they became rich & famous. 

Scholes eh a man to lime and act like a starboy. He married...he does come...train....dahs it. So yeh....i doubt she a gold digger.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 18, 2009, 05:32:40 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 18, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
rooney other half sweet fuh days.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on May 18, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
nani have nani
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 18, 2009, 08:28:02 PM
Rafael Benítez says congratulations to Manchester United, but not their manager Alex Ferguson

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/18/rafael-benitez-alex-ferguson

Rafael Benítez said congratulations to Manchester United for winning the title after Liverpool's 2-0 win against West Bromwich. Photograph: Keith Williams/Action Images

Rafael Benítez's feud with Sir Alex Ferguson continued last night as the Spaniard refused to congratulate the Manchester United manager for winning the Premier League title. Benítez offered praise to United for their success but twice declined the opportunity to applaud Ferguson for his achievement as Liverpool secured a 2-0 victory at The Hawthorns that relegated West Bromwich Albion and secured second place.

Asked whether he would congratulate Ferguson in the wake of their 18th League title, Benítez, who had gone public with his grievances with the United manager in January with his infamous list of "facts", replied: "I will say congratulations to Manchester United." Not Sir Alex? "Ah, done well," said the Spaniard begrudgingly, "but I prefer to say congratulations to Manchester United; good club, big club."

It is protocol for the manager that finishes runners-up to send a letter of congratulations to his triumphant counterpart but Benítez gave little indication he will have a pen in his hand over the next few days when he was asked if he would write to Ferguson. "I have had normally to be polite and to respect the other manager at the end of the season. He has said a lot of things that I didn't like. I say congratulations to Man United because they have won and that's it."

Benítez saw his side cruise to a ninth win in 10 League games against Albion although the victory was overshadowed by an incident involving Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa, when the central defender squared up to his team-mate and pushed him in the chest.

Benitez said: "Carragher and Arbeloa wanted a clean sheet so they were a little bit nervous. I think it's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality and to win and stay as close as possible to United. Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence that we wanted to protect better because that's 20 clean sheets now." Carragher said: "It was something in nothing. It happened in the heat of the moment. We have kissed and made up. It's just one of those things that goes on from time to time. It's forgotten."


Fat...Spanish...Waiter.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2009, 11:32:24 PM
Rafael Benítez says congratulations to Manchester United, but not their manager Alex Ferguson

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/18/rafael-benitez-alex-ferguson

Rafael Benítez said congratulations to Manchester United for winning the title after Liverpool's 2-0 win against West Bromwich. Photograph: Keith Williams/Action Images

Rafael Benítez's feud with Sir Alex Ferguson continued last night as the Spaniard refused to congratulate the Manchester United manager for winning the Premier League title. Benítez offered praise to United for their success but twice declined the opportunity to applaud Ferguson for his achievement as Liverpool secured a 2-0 victory at The Hawthorns that relegated West Bromwich Albion and secured second place.

Asked whether he would congratulate Ferguson in the wake of their 18th League title, Benítez, who had gone public with his grievances with the United manager in January with his infamous list of "facts", replied: "I will say congratulations to Manchester United." Not Sir Alex? "Ah, done well," said the Spaniard begrudgingly, "but I prefer to say congratulations to Manchester United; good club, big club."

It is protocol for the manager that finishes runners-up to send a letter of congratulations to his triumphant counterpart but Benítez gave little indication he will have a pen in his hand over the next few days when he was asked if he would write to Ferguson. "I have had normally to be polite and to respect the other manager at the end of the season. He has said a lot of things that I didn't like. I say congratulations to Man United because they have won and that's it."

Benítez saw his side cruise to a ninth win in 10 League games against Albion although the victory was overshadowed by an incident involving Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa, when the central defender squared up to his team-mate and pushed him in the chest.

Benitez said: "Carragher and Arbeloa wanted a clean sheet so they were a little bit nervous. I think it's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality and to win and stay as close as possible to United. Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence that we wanted to protect better because that's 20 clean sheets now." Carragher said: "It was something in nothing. It happened in the heat of the moment. We have kissed and made up. It's just one of those things that goes on from time to time. It's forgotten."


Fat...Spanish...Waiter.



   He was damned near doing the same thing when Jose was winning his two titles.  Rafa is just trying to learn how to play the mind games game.  he have further to go.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 19, 2009, 06:42:05 AM
Watch how Sir Alex go make Rafa look even more dotish now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 19, 2009, 07:27:00 AM
Watch how Sir Alex go make Rafa look even more dotish now.


I think rafa could do dat all on his own.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
Carrick copping a feel.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 19, 2009, 09:47:08 AM
Anybody notice that C. Homoaldo not in any of the celebratory pictures?


edit: I now make him out dey, but even on TV Sat he look like he was dey begrudgingly.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 19, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
Anybody notice that C. Homoaldo not in any of the celebratory pictures?


edit: I now make him out dey, but even on TV Sat he look like he was dey begrudgingly.

Are you f**king serious?  When the trophy was about to be lifted he was behind Gary Neville ready to explode with happiness.. I was a little surprised by how up for it he was... and as soon as the trophy was lifted he grabbed nev and they all started celebrating

Here asshole

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Doe study our players... Study Messi saying he willing to talk to Perez

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
Check out the skillins between Ronaldo and the interviewer in Rio's new mag on page 5.

http://5magazine.rioferdinand.com/Rio-Ferdinand-50Cent-MickeyRourke-Duffy/1Q49ef81308d19e012.cde/page/4


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on May 19, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
well ah guess ah should come in and pay meh respects  ::)

Congrats allyuh Manchester United supporters..well done by allyuh team :applause:

next year the battle will continue  :duel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2009, 06:55:26 AM
Mourinho - Fergie will be best

Jose Mourinho feels that European glory for Manchester United on Wednesday will make Sir Alex Ferguson the 'greatest club manager'.

The Red Devils are set to face Barcelona in Rome next week in an eagerly-anticipated UEFA Champions League final.

Victory for United would see them become the first side to successfully defend the trophy in its current format, while also allowing them to add the continental crown to their Premier League and League Cup triumphs.

Ferguson's men have also added the Club World Cup trophy to their ever-growing list of achievements this season, with the Red Devils continuing to dominate both at home and abroad.

Their unrivalled success over the years is largely due to the tactical nous of their manager, and Inter Milan boss Mourinho is full of praise for the manner in which his Old Trafford counterpart goes about his business.

"He is a super manager and a victory or defeat in this moment of his career doesn't make him any better or any worse - he has had a great career," said the Portuguese.

Super team

"But of course if he wins on Wednesday it would make him the greatest club manager.

"Sir Alex has made a super team. Three Premier League titles in a row and two Champions league finals - that is really top.

"They have quality and experience, with Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney. They have absolutely everything as a team: strength, mentality, speed, magic, solutions.

"Beating Arsenal in the semi-finals (of the Champions League) didn't impress me too much. It is normal.  :devil:

"But three Premier League titles and two Champions League finals, you need no more words to explain how strong they are."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5345640,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 24, 2009, 06:58:13 AM
Ronaldo's heart is with United
Portuguese superstar remains fully committed to Red Devils

Cristiano Ronaldo insists he feels 'at home' at Manchester United and has no desire to leave the club.

Speculation continues to link the reigning World Player of the Year with a high-profile summer switch to Real Madrid.

The Spanish giants have denied having a pre-contract agreement in place with the Portuguese superstar, and United are unwilling to sell, but the rumours persist.

Ronaldo is hoping to lay the issue to rest once and for all, though, and has once again reiterated his undying dedication to the Red Devils cause.

He explained in the News of the World: "Manchester United is my home. My heart is here. This is where I want to play.

"The boss (Sir Alex Ferguson) believes in this team and so do I. Ever since I joined United he has been like a second father to me.

"This is my home now. I think even when I say my heart is here people are going to speak up and make things up. But this is where I want to play.

"We are part of an era that can go down in history for the way we are playing and for the trophies we are winning.

"The boss believes in this team and so do I. And this is where I want to be. Manchester United is now my house."
Learning

Ronaldo continued his praise for Ferguson by claiming the experienced coach has played an integral role in his development into a world-class talent.

"He is two different people and they have both helped me become who I am today," he added.

"Firstly he is probably the most knowledgeable football coach in the world. I learn from him every day.

"No matter how good I become, I know he is a man who will always be able to teach me that little bit more.

"I don't get tired of learning from him because I know every bit of advice he gives me will make me a better player.

"The second person he is, is a father to me. Ever since I joined Manchester United, he has been like a second father to me.

"I don't just respect him, I have the affection for him a child has for his father.

"When he gives me advice that is non-football, I listen because it will make me a better person."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5345551,00.html


Viva Ronaldo!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 24, 2009, 07:10:47 AM
^^^ i was gonna post that but i not sure how I feel about CR and his antics and disrespect for the boss and his fellow players.

 :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
1 nil man utd win  :devil:  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 24, 2009, 10:58:10 PM
come wed we will be rulers of europe.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 25, 2009, 06:15:03 PM
 The Independent

Dimitar Berbatov: 'If someone has great qualities, they don't need effort'

His attitude wins few admirers, but Dimitar Berbatov won't change for Wednesday's big match. He tells Sam Wallace about smoking, his work rate, and why he would rather leave penalties to others

Tuesday, 26 May 2009
Is it Andy Garcia he looks like? Or is there a touch of the Rudolph Valentinos about Dimitar Berbatov as he makes his way across the dining room of the Manchester United academy for a reluctant interview? Whoever it is, there is definitely the brooding intensity of the moodiest of Hollywood leading men about United's £30m striker.


Berbatov, 28, is the real enigma of United's season, a man whose performances have divided their fans, whose 14 goals are seen as a poor return and whose position in the starting XI against Barcelona in the Champions League final in Rome tomorrow is by no means assured. And, yes, as he walks over to the group of reporters waiting for him, Berbatov – as is his way – takes his own sweet time.

The major criticism of the Bulgarian international? That the bloke just does not even look like he is trying. Certainly not amid the all-action styles of Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez. But he has an answer for that, delivered as insouciantly as he plays. "You know," he says, "when someone has great qualities sometimes they don't have to put much effort into things. Sometimes the things I do look effortless but it's not like that. It's very difficult, but because of my style of play I make it look easy."

Delivered like the true maestro. What Berbatov is saying is that the things that most footballers find such an effort are as simple to him as scratching his ear or lighting a cigarette. Which takes us on a brief digression: having been photographed off duty with a cigarette in his mouth, is he a smoker? "No, sometimes when you see a picture I just pretend to smoke to make me more of a cool guy."

Already you are getting the picture: Berbatov is about as hard to pin down in conversation as he is when, in his best moments, he gets the ball at his feet and creates the impression that endless time and space are at his disposal. He comes across as something of a tortured soul and his style of self-appraisal is ruthlessly honest. His family history in Bulgaria was tough, and not just because of the relative lack of wealth.

But what about the season so far? He has scored 14 goals compared to 23 last year for Spurs, yet he has finished with the most assists in the team. "Of course I can do a lot better," he says. "But in the end it's only important what the boss is going to say to me, if he is happy or not. If he says he is not, then I need to work to improve so I can be better next season.

"When people see my name they see goals. I need to score more goals even though I don't play in my usual position. It's difficult to say to people that I enjoy making goals. My main aim is to score as many goals as possible and help the team to win the title again next year.

"There is always pressure. I am a realistic type of guy. I am my biggest critic. I know that when United pay a lot of money for a player the expectation will be higher, sometimes it's even ridiculous. I am used to that and I know everyone is expecting even more from me.

"I read in the paper that the most useful guy for the team was me. It made me feel good. I didn't score as many goals as I wanted and people are maybe a little disappointed with that, but in the end I made the most assists. I helped my team-mates to score and I will continue to do that. That's the most important thing for the team because we need to win the league every year."

Neither is he prepared to change his style, saying the only person who can make him do that is the man he refers to simply as "Boss". But Sir Alex Ferguson has a big decision to make before tomorrow night as to whether he picks his usual 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation with Berbatov at the point of the attack or Cristiano Ronaldo or even Tevez. Berbatov knew that even a star as luminous as he is would not be guaranteed a starting place at United.

"I was jealous [at Spurs] because they [United] were lifting every cup in football," he says. "I thought, 'Come on, I just want to be part of this team and feel what it is to lift the cup.' So today I am here and if the boss says, 'OK, Berba, you are going to play,' I will try to give my best."

He does not look very happy on the pitch – is he? "Of course I am enjoying it. It would be stupid if I was laughing all the time. I really enjoy myself. When we won the title I was in the locker room and so happy. I don't smile all the time but I smile inside. I am the happiest guy around, trust me. I don't like to show my emotions too much."

Berbatov has played in a Champions League final before, in 2002 for Bayer Leverkusen, who eliminated United on away goals in the semi-finals before losing 2-1 to Real Madrid in the final. Then 21, he came on in the 39th minute of the final and had a chance to equalise at the end but saw his shot saved by the substitute goalkeeper Iker Casillas. "This memory haunts me," he said. "If I can make it right this time it will be good."

Talking of haunting memories, what about that dreadful penalty against Everton in the FA Cup semi-final shoot-out last month, the one that made it look like he did not care? "I'm not angry because I am my biggest critic," he says. "I know what I did wrong. I go home and try to get over things. Obviously, it's very difficult when you make a mistake and everyone is trying to attack you. You try to be strong.

"It hurt a lot. I am not sure I would take a penalty [in Rome]. Let's hope it's not going to get to that because it's difficult. I am the new guy in the team. When you make a mistake people sometimes go straight for the new guy. I am not sure there are going to be penalties anyway."

In his defence, Berbatov pointed out that his penalty for Spurs against Chelsea in the Carling Cup final last year was identical but that one went in. Mournfully he answers questions about his childhood in Bulgaria. "It's not like I'm the only guy in the world who went through that," he says. "After the Communists were gone it was easier to go out of the country. You need to be a little lucky, work hard and trust yourself. I had so many difficult moments. I know I will have some more but you keep on fighting."

When talk turns to the great Bulgaria team of the 1994 World Cup finals, he is asked what it did for the Bulgarian people. "At last people knew we existed," he replies, glumly. Cheer up, Berba, you might even score the winner tomorrow, but if he does don't expect him to put the cup on his head or take part in any daft celebrations. It is just not his style.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 26, 2009, 08:19:50 AM
Sir Matt remembered

One of English football's greatest-ever managers was born 100 years ago this Tuesday (26 May) in the Scottish village of Orbiston.

A former Manchester City and Liverpool player, Matt Busby accepted the position of United manager on 19 February 1945, and then joined the club full-time on his demobilisation from the armed forces in October 1945.

Together with his loyal assistant manager Jimmy Murphy, Busby created a team good enough to win the FA Cup in 1948 and to challenge for the League Championship. After finishing runners-up four times, Busby's men won the title in 1952.

Far from being blinded by their success, Busby and Murphy had the foresight to plan ahead and prepare for the day when their first great team would need replacing. The club's scouting system was expanded and reorganised, soon yielding a young team that won the title again in 1956 and 1957 and reached the FA Cup final in 1957. This young team was christened the 'Busby Babes.'

Busby trailblazed the way for English clubs by entering the European Cup in 1956/57 - initially against the wishes of the Football League. United reached the semi-finals, losing to eventual winners Real Madrid.

The following season, 1957/58, bristled with promise and United were still challenging in all three competitions by February when disaster struck. On 6 February 1958, the aeroplane bringing the team home from a European Cup match against Red Star Belgrade crashed after refuelling in Munich. Twenty-three people were killed, including eight of Busby's players and three club officials.

Busby almost lost his life as well - he was twice given the last rites while lying gravely ill in a German hospital. Fortunately, he survived and returned to Manchester 71 days after the crash. Taking up the managerial reigns again in August 1958, Busby began to rebuild United, bringing in some big money purchases to add to his homegrown talent. The new group of players reached the FA Cup final in 1963 and beat Leicester City 3-1 to claim the club's first trophy after Munich.

League titles followed in 1965 and 1967, giving Busby the chance to conquer Europe in the following seasons. In 1965/66, United reached the semi-finals, just as they had done in 1956/57 and 1957/58. But in 1967/68 they went further, to the final at Wembley where they faced Portuguese side Benfica.

On another night of great emotion, United triumphed 4-1 after extra-time to win the European Cup. It was a fitting tribute to the players and staff killed and injured 10 years before and was Busby's crowning achievement as United manager. Busby retired at the end of the following season, but stayed on as general manager while Wilf McGuinness became the man in charge of the team on a day-to-day basis. The new arrangement lasted little more than a year - on 28 December 1970, Busby was invited by the Directors to return to his old job and replace McGuinness until the end of the season.

A respected figure throughout his career, Busby was awarded the CBE in 1958. Ten years later, was knighted following United's European Cup triumph. In 1993 Warwick Road North, the road which runs past Old Trafford, was renamed Sir Matt Busby Way in honour of the man described as 'Mr Manchester United'.

When, after a short illness, Sir Matt died on 20 January 1994, thousands of people lined the streets of Manchester and similar numbers of shirts, wreaths, pictures and scarves were laid in tribute at Old Trafford. A bronze statue of Sir Matt was unveiled at the stadium on 27 April 1996, as a permanent memorial to the man who epitomised the club.

Five years after Busby's death, United won the European Cup for the first time since 1968. Poignantly, the date of that triumph for Sir Alex Ferguson's side, 26 May 1999, would have been Matt's 90th birthday.
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 26, 2009, 08:23:45 AM
Manchester United have been given special dispensation by UEFA to turn one half of Rome's Olympic Stadium into a stunning tribute to the late Sir Matt Busby before next Wednesday's Champions League final against Barcelona.

After discussions with European football's governing body, Sir Alex Ferguson and his players will walk out before the game to be greeted by a 16,000-piece mural covering the whole of the Curva Nord that will pay tribute to Busby, who would have been 100 years old the day before the final.
Pat Crerand, left, and George Best hold the European Cup with Matt Busby after United's 1968 European Cup triumph

The mosaic - held up by United's travelling fans - will spell out 'For Sir Matt' and will include a stunning portrait of the man from whom current United manager Ferguson and his players have always taken much of their inspiration.

It is destined to become one of the lasting images of a final that could yet see United become the first team to defend the trophy in the competition's modern form.

Last night United chief executive David Gill confirmed the plan, which came courtesy of the Stretford End Flags Group.

Gill said: 'We wanted to do something to mark Sir Matt's 100th birthday and we were approached by the fans with an idea that would recognise the role he had played in the club's unique place in Europe.
Legend: Sir Matt Busby pictured with the European Cup in 1968

'Alex liked the idea straight away. The mosaic will remind millions of people around the world what a great man Sir Matt was.'

Busby won the club their first European Cup in 1968 and died in 1994. United won the Cup for the second time on what would have been his 90th birthday, May 26, 1999.

He was manager of United for 24 years - retiring in 1969 - and was recognised as the greatest boss the club had ever had until Ferguson began piling up the trophies. United have invited Busby's son Sandy and daughter Sheena to be the club's guests in Rome and attend a dinner with their directors on Tuesday.

Sandy Busby said: 'It's going to be really heart-rending when the mosaic is lifted up, and I'm sure there are going to be a few tears from my sister and myself.

'My dad would have been so proud and pleased. He was a sentimental man and he would be absolutely delighted that the fans still remember him with such affection and still sing songs in his honour. But this is something else - he will be the proudest man in heaven.'

 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 26, 2009, 04:14:51 PM
Manchester United have been given special dispensation by UEFA to turn one half of Rome's Olympic Stadium into a stunning tribute to the late Sir Matt Busby before next Wednesday's Champions League final against Barcelona.

After discussions with European football's governing body, Sir Alex Ferguson and his players will walk out before the game to be greeted by a 16,000-piece mural covering the whole of the Curva Nord that will pay tribute to Busby, who would have been 100 years old the day before the final.
Pat Crerand, left, and George Best hold the European Cup with Matt Busby after United's 1968 European Cup triumph

The mosaic - held up by United's travelling fans - will spell out 'For Sir Matt' and will include a stunning portrait of the man from whom current United manager Ferguson and his players have always taken much of their inspiration.

It is destined to become one of the lasting images of a final that could yet see United become the first team to defend the trophy in the competition's modern form.

Last night United chief executive David Gill confirmed the plan, which came courtesy of the Stretford End Flags Group.

Gill said: 'We wanted to do something to mark Sir Matt's 100th birthday and we were approached by the fans with an idea that would recognise the role he had played in the club's unique place in Europe.
Legend: Sir Matt Busby pictured with the European Cup in 1968

'Alex liked the idea straight away. The mosaic will remind millions of people around the world what a great man Sir Matt was.'

Busby won the club their first European Cup in 1968 and died in 1994. United won the Cup for the second time on what would have been his 90th birthday, May 26, 1999.

He was manager of United for 24 years - retiring in 1969 - and was recognised as the greatest boss the club had ever had until Ferguson began piling up the trophies. United have invited Busby's son Sandy and daughter Sheena to be the club's guests in Rome and attend a dinner with their directors on Tuesday.

Sandy Busby said: 'It's going to be really heart-rending when the mosaic is lifted up, and I'm sure there are going to be a few tears from my sister and myself.

'My dad would have been so proud and pleased. He was a sentimental man and he would be absolutely delighted that the fans still remember him with such affection and still sing songs in his honour. But this is something else - he will be the proudest man in heaven.'

 :beermug: :beermug:

It go be just like playing and OT :rotfl: :devil:  Licks tomorrow for all Barca haters
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 27, 2009, 08:24:21 PM
quintuple..

GLORY, GLORY!!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 27, 2009, 08:33:13 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 29, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
What this doing on the 2nd page, what no glory, glory.

The thread abandoned, or is the game still playing.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on June 11, 2009, 08:26:01 AM
oh gawd, well allyuh say something nuh man....  :waiting:




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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on June 11, 2009, 08:28:43 AM
oh gawd, well allyuh say something nuh man....  :waiting:




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he wanted to see how he would look in a white kit, playing in a big game for a big side ..... like Real Madrid.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on June 11, 2009, 08:35:33 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on June 11, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
So who is the replacement?

Not Ribery done say he eh want to play in England - and wuss, in Manchester rain and gloom - wait, Old Trafford not even in Manchester  ::)

But anyways, who needs to buy players to replace Ronaldo?

dey have Nani  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on June 11, 2009, 08:46:02 AM
So who is the replacement?

Not Ribery done say he eh want to play in England - and wuss, in Manchester rain and gloom - wait, Old Trafford not even in Manchester  ::)

But anyways, who needs to buy players to replace Ronaldo?

dey have Nani  :rotfl:

come nuh man, yuh didnt have to hit them fellahs below the belt..

keep it civil nuh man. :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on June 11, 2009, 09:21:15 AM
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wait, Old Trafford not even in Manchester

Really? Where is it then?

Last time I checked, Salford was within city boundaries...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 11, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
Thanks for the great years at the club.... massive 3 seasons from 06-09...got us back to the top

but we cant deny him his dream any longer.. thanks for the 80 million and good luck at Madrid

Viva Ronaldo

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 11, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
Ok folks..time to rebuild

Ronny is off for 80 mill...
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Replacements?

Ronaldo is a massive loss... He scores goals and he is also one of the best players in the world..irreplaceable if you ask me..No1 can match him in key moments such as changing games...he can score with his head, both feet, free kicks, tap ins , penalties

If Tevez wants to leave due to being on the bench he could f**k off... but if his head is right and he wants to be loyal then we can buy him for the 25 million

Then we go to the wings... Park and Nani are our 2 wingers left..as well as newboy Tosic but he'll be a fringe player... Nani has to step it up this season and Park too

Fergie's not going to f**k around so expect two wingers... A.Valencia of Wigan seems to be joining soon.. He is big fast and a goal scoring threat.. he is settled in the EPL.. 15-18 million pounds...

F.Ribery will be the big name signing if f**king Madrid dont get too him first... Anywhere between 32-40 mill for him

that's the 3 there for me... If Tevez f**ks off then I would have gone with D.Villa but guess where he is heading

So i'll go with maybe Benzema of Lyon or Edin Dzeko of Woflsburg..a personal wish of mine... other big name strikers that can be linked if Tevez leaves are : Zlatan..Huntelaar..Eto'o.

Let the games begin

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on June 11, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on June 11, 2009, 03:33:43 PM
Thanks for the good times. Manu have trophies to prove it. Good luck at Real.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on June 11, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.

That's how English blokes speak.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 11, 2009, 03:59:11 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.

That's how English blokes speak.

I was about to say the same thing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on June 11, 2009, 04:00:22 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.

That's how English blokes speak.

I was about to say the same thing

they didnt speak like that when i was there.. maybe the ones you see on tv.

in any case, which part you from again?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on June 11, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.

That's how English blokes speak.

I was about to say the same thing

they didnt speak like that when i was there.. maybe the ones you see on tv.

in any case, which part you from again?

steuuuuupsssssssssss man Omar ... you eh know who art thou?
He neighbour is "Too Who" ... he was the star on the field yesterday - everytime we mids get the ball, especially Keon - BOOM KICK pass Too Who.

Only starboys does get pass like dat whole game - and only starboys does live in the same neighbourhood in Carenage-on-Stoke. When yuh ring dem men doorbell, it doh go "ding dong" .. it does go "glory glory"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 11, 2009, 04:13:33 PM
steuuuuupsssssssssss man Omar ... you eh know who art thou?
He neighbour is "Too Who" ... he was the star on the field yesterday - everytime we mids get the ball, especially Keon - BOOM KICK pass Too Who.

Only starboys does get pass like dat whole game - and only starboys does live in the same neighbourhood in Carenage-on-Stoke. When yuh ring dem men doorbell, it doh go "ding dong" .. it does go "glory glory"

Ah know ah missin sumting, help meh wit de Carenage reference nah.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 11, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
... and you couldn't make that point minus the expletives?

come on man, time to grow up.

That's how English blokes speak.

I was about to say the same thing

they didnt speak like that when i was there.. maybe the ones you see on tv.

in any case, which part you from again?

I'm from Metropolitan Borough of Trafford, Manchester

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 11, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
Looking forward to seeing how Ronaldo make out in La Liga.
Go Barca!
Looking forward tuh see how Fergie intends to add to the team plus the young players who are due to come in.
This is now Rooney's team and I look forward tuh seeing him shine.
Guess Real plan tuh out score sides.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on July 03, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
so this is what Fergie doing with that 80M quid - knowing that he NOT buying players with it?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ce5d7812-67fc-11de-848a-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss&nclick_check=1 (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ce5d7812-67fc-11de-848a-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss&nclick_check=1)

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Ferguson and Frost unite for property venture
By Daniel Thomas in London

Published: July 3 2009 23:34 | Last updated: July 3 2009 23:34

Sir Alex Ferguson, manager of English football team Manchester United, is to join forces with the television star Sir David Frost in a £1bn ($1.6bn) property venture backed by Middle Eastern investors that aims to snap up real estate at bargain prices.

In the latest celebrity business tie-up and following news of Simon Cowell’s entertainment venture with the British retail billionaire Sir Philip Green, the English premier league manager and the broadcaster are to drum up support for commercial property deals across Europe in the belief the market is near the bottom of a prolonged slump.

Their new investment company, aAim Capital Finance, has received commitments of more than £1bn from Gulf investors to buy property in Europe. The launch of the company marks the resurrection of the team including Sir Alex and Sir David that was behind aAim Group, an asset manager that saw about €2bn ($2.8bn) of properties under management go into administration last year after Bank of Scotland withdrew from a funding agreement.

Sir Alex said: “The credit crunch has undoubtedly hit everyone involved in commercial property as evidenced by the recent announcements from Land Securities and others writing down their current values.

“I continue to be confident in a recovery on the real estate front and am sure that the aAIM people will flourish again with their knowledge and adaptability to changing situations.”

Sir Alex and Sir David are expected to do a road show. Sir David has taken the deputy chairmanship. He described aAim Capital Finance as “a new dawn in the property sector”.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 18, 2009, 03:26:50 PM
long time...

Tevez and Ronaldo out as the major departures...Owen,Valencia and Obertan in...as well as Diuof who will join in January..

Fergie says no more signings but you never know with him.. I personally think we need 1 more..an attacking mid who can probably play on the wing if needed....David Silva,Van der Vaart,Ronaldinho?

Douglas Costa may be on his way as weekend reports from credible media sources in the UK report that we will pay 7.5 million pounds which can rise to 18 million over the next 5 seasons....he is 18 so I cant see him coming in as a saviour...but one for the future if we get him


I like the Owen buy as I've been calling it since Ruud left... very happy with him...English..29..class..goalscorer.... and it will allow Wazza and Berba to be the 1st choice with Owen understanding his role...and he could def start if he scores alot which he will..so it is good competition..Macheda Welbeck as the youthful strikers and new boy Diouf in January..  Giggs,Nani and Obertan can all play upfront if needed too


let the games begin






Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 18, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
Michael Owen opened his account with the winning goal on his debut as Manchester United defeated a Malaysia XI 3-2.

The England striker, picked up by Sir Alex Ferguson on a free transfer after his contract with Newcastle expired, stepped off the bench to spare the Red Devils' blushes in the opening game of their Far East tour.

United looked to be cruising to a routine victory as they eased into a 2-0 lead in front of almost 100,000 fans in Kuala Lumpur's Bukit Jalil Stadium, only to allow their hosts to draw level.

Owen started among the substitutes as Ferguson began life without Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez by pairing Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov in attack.

And the duo combined to open the scoring in the eighth minute as Rooney lifted the ball into the roof of the net from close range after the Bulgaria international had been denied by goalkeeper Mohammed Farizal Marlias.

Rooney then turned provider midway through the first half as he threaded an expert ball through the Malaysian defence which Nani slotted home.

But their lead was halved moments before the interval when Mohammed Amri Yahyah fired home a stunning long-range effort from outside the box which left stranded goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar floundering.

Fergsuon's men were rocked at the start of the second period when an error by substitute goalkeeper Ben Foster allowed Amri Yahyah to roll the ball into an empty net and bring the scores level.

And it was left to Owen to emerge as the hero on his debut as he calmly slotted home from the edge of the box with time running out after Darron Gibson's through-ball had initially been cut out by Marlias.
http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3148181,00.html

Michael Owen has revealed that his switch to Manchester United has made him feel 21-years-old all over again.

The former Newcastle United striker netted on his Red Devils debut on Saturday following his free transfer switch.

Owen is delighted to be at Old Trafford and feels that his new club will help him return to the England squad.

The 29-year-old has won 89 caps for England and scored 40 goals but has played only once under manager Fabio Capello.

"I feel like I did eight years ago," said Owen.

"There are so many players on my wavelength - world-class players. I just know this move is going to be fantastic for me.
Exciting

"When you sign for Manchester United there are that many things you think about; the players alongside you, playing at Old Trafford, the men who are going to create chances for you.

"Then you wake up the following morning and realise you could win the league or the UEFA Champions League.

"It just goes on and on. It is a very exciting prospect."

He added: "I have never given up on England.

"I have been in every preliminary squad before it is pared down. I have had a letter every time. I know from that the manager is keeping an eye on me."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5440362,00.html



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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 20, 2009, 08:53:55 AM
United 2 Malaysia xi 0 FT

Macheda and Owen  ;)

decent game...FC Seoul on Friday
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 23, 2009, 02:54:45 PM
After staying mute since the end of the season, Sir Alex Ferguson held his first major media briefing on Monday in Malaysia. Here's what he had to say...


SAF on the summer...
"This particular summer defies all logic in terms of the credit crunch. You'd expect a lot of clubs to draw in their horns but, no, it's accelerated. Due mainly to a couple of clubs, of course, namely Real Madrid and Manchester City."

SAF on whether United should be considered favourites for the title...
"I don't really know, to be honest with you. I'd like to see the betting."


SAF on who will challenge United for their title...
"Manchester City are getting all the back page stories and they will hold that position for the rest of the season because there is a lot of interest in what they have done and a lot of speculation about whether it is going to work. But I cannot look at Manchester City as our main competitors. Liverpool and Chelsea are our main competitors. There is no doubt about that."


SAF on which of the Big Four is under the most pressure from Man City...
"Arsenal have got the biggest test to be where they want to be, I think. I know that Arsene Wenger doesn't have any money, I know that. I think that selling Adebayor - well, whether he can use that money is another question. There seems to be evidence that he can't use the money, I don't know. I think they're struggling cash-wise. It's a big test for Arsenal."


SAF on pursuing Carlos Tevez...
"In my opinion I didn't think he was worth £25million, that's just my judgment, maybe I'm wrong. The fans quite rightly have their heroes, and I respect the fans so I was happy to go along with a deal as long as it was the right deal. Our success is down to the fans and their support, we need them when we are away from home to the likes of Fulham and Arsenal. But simply he was not worth £25m."


SAF on City's pursuit of John Terry...
"It's understandable, given the money they have. They made their intentions known by buying Robinho for all that money and by signing Bellamy, Santa Cruz, Barry and now Adebayor. They are not stopping, but if I was in City's shoes, with all that kind of money, then I would have a go at that myself. I think it's sensible. For some reason they must have known that he was interested. I'm sure there have been plenty of phone calls going on."


SAF on Man City's prospects of breaking into the top four...
"If you analyse City as a team, you'd say: 'Well, what's their best team?' and 'Where would that go?' And you'd have to think they'd still struggle to get into the top four, really. It would be hard for them to get into that top four, I think so."


SAF on whether City will finish in the top four...
"I am not saying they won't do it. I am just saying they would find it extremely difficult. It is a tough top four that. Aston Villa almost managed to break through but they tapered off because they were worn down by having such a small squad."


SAF on the challenge ahead for Mark Hughes...
"They have bought a lot of high profile players but they have 10 strikers. That is a hell of a lot. I have not spoken to all the managers but the one or two I have are saying "Who are they going to leave out?". How do you tell players they are not even going to be travelling to London? How does he pick a team? We are all interested."


SAF on what Man City's spending spree means for the likes of Harry Redknapp and the Manager of Aston Villa...
"It's a good point. We are protected here at United by our titles. But expectation on them will be exactly the same as last year. Their fans will expect them to challenge and that's difficult for them against that kind of spending. But they are good managers. They know their jobs. Irrespective of cash, they will still make a challenge."


SAF on losing Cristiano Ronaldo...
"There's no doubt he's a huge loss. I think it's a challenge for us. It won't be the same without Ronaldo. It can't be. Without question, in my mind, he is the best player in this world of ours. By absolutely miles. He is streets ahead of Messi, streets ahead of Kaka. Look at his figures. They are unbelievable. The attempts he has on goal, the attacks into the penalty box, his positions, headers, shots... it's unbelievable."


SAF on why Ronaldo went ...
"I had a good chat with the boy about it. He had made up his mind about it. Last year he was begging me and this year it was a sensible discussion. I felt it was right. I told him I'd let him go on one condition and that was that we got the biggest fee ever for a player. And he said: 'Right, that will do me...'"


SAF on Ronaldo's future...
"His best is to come yet because he is just 24 years old. I'll be very proud because we had a part to play in it. He came to the right club at the right part of his career. He appreciates that. And he may come back, you never know...Sometimes it just happens. He loved United, he loved the club. If you look back at the six years he had with us, he never missed training."


SAF on how United will line up this season without Ronaldo...
"We will shape it differently. We'll be more compact in midfield because he [Ronaldo] was a bit loose in his defending. We'll be more compact, but we also have the increasing maturity of players like Darren Fletcher. Owen Hargreaves will come back, Anderson will improve, Nani will improve, Rooney will improve. I think they've got to improve, the young players, and we expect them to improve. I think Dimitar Berbatov think Dimitar Berbatov will have a terrific season, too."


SAF on why he made a move for Michael Owen...
"He is worth the risk. Sometimes you have a punt, a bet or a gamble. You just start to think, 'These bloody transfers, we can carry that, we can carry Michael Owen.'"


SAF on his plans for Owen...
"I won't ask him to play every four days. I might ask him to play every 10 days."


SAF on United's next hero...
"Macheda is top drawer, a hero in the making, just as Cristiano was. It is hard to believe he is just 17. We probably need to check his birth certificate because I reckon he is at least 28. He is a player all right - and tough as old boots. He can look after himself. He does not have the lightning reactions of Ronaldo but he is quick around the box and he has an eye for goal."


SAF on when we'll see the best of Wayne Rooney...
"There will be an expectation about Wayne Rooney this season purely because he is English. Without question he is the main striker that England's hopes will be pinned on at the World Cup, so that is where the expectation is all coming from. But I would like to see the boy develop his game in a lot of departments. He is 23 now. You will get the maturity when he gets to 25. Then there will be a more consistent nature to his game."


SAF on considering signing Petr Cech before he moved to Chelsea...
"I watched him myself twice, and I thought, 'nineteen years old, he's a bit young'. But he was in the national team by the time he was 20. Looking back now, he's maybe made about 10 mistakes in six years...at the time I was looking for someone to replace Peter Schmeichel."


SAF on United's interest in signing Benzema...
"He is tough, has a good physique, a good goal scoring record, so it was worth going a wee bit extra for him because of his age. But when it went to £42 million, it was beyond his value. We went to £35 million and I think that was fair."


SAF on whether United tried to sign Frank Ribery...
"No. We explored it in a nice, quiet way when David Gill was at one of his meetings with them in March. They told him, 'absolutely no chance' and the one thing you."


SAF on the Champions League final ...
"I know exactly what went wrong, but I'm not going to get into it. We threw it away, I will say that. I'm not getting into it at all. It's not even worth talking about.


SAF on how long he will continue...
"No decisions made."

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_5446023,00.html

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on July 23, 2009, 03:01:38 PM
fergie apparently knows of another messi
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 23, 2009, 03:06:58 PM
New Signings pose with SAF
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/6608_129078850730_684545730_3518415.jpg)


Manchester City put up a massive "Welcome to Manchester" poster in blue with Tevez in the City Center... classy move ::)

we let our fans do the immaturity..not the club
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/6448_105929928434_637103434_2314257.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/6254_229103285345_611470345_7528110.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/pitythefool.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 23, 2009, 03:15:39 PM
fergie apparently knows of another messi

Yeah musbe cause that streets ahead talk is utter rubbish
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on July 23, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
how the hell somebody get so many coherent sentences out of Fergie is a mystery. To me, the man doesn't speak a bit of proper or understandable English/ British/ Scottish ... whatever you call it.

I would say most of the words in those sentences were guessed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on July 23, 2009, 07:14:49 PM
Ah see this poster making the rounds on the internets:

(http://api.photoshop.com/home_f6af789f50f14ec681c315830bb2d97d/adobe-px-assets/ffe91d933c9b4eaca47aa4d5a5d8ac2d)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: RedDevils on July 24, 2009, 07:16:16 AM
United wins another pre-season game. Seoul FC 2 - United 3. Much better game and opponent than the last two. Rooney, Kiko and Berbatov scored.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 24, 2009, 07:22:06 AM
fantastic match... a great pre season game..the fans were brilliant.. the stadium perfect.. and the game itself was tops... the #10 for Seoul... Dejan..scored 2 classy goals and looked very impressive... maybe Fergie gave David Gill a call at HT to speak to his agents...

Great goal by Berba..brilliant header...

couldnt ask for more from a pre season game really...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 26, 2009, 08:04:17 AM
8-2 FT vs Hangzhou Greentown   ;D ;D

Owen(2),Berba,Tosic,Nani,Giggs(3)


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on July 26, 2009, 09:47:16 AM
8-2 in a pre season game? What a laugh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on July 27, 2009, 10:28:33 PM
Hangzhou Greentown huh? ..... rolls off the tongue as easily as AC Milan, Inter Milan and Club America in the pre-season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 27, 2009, 10:58:10 PM
ah yes...the rent boy fans

Asian tour is something we will do every two years to thank the massive fanbase we have in Asia... and make some cash

We still have 4 pre season games left... Boca Juniors on Wednesday and should we win then the winner of AC Milan vs Bayern Munich on Thurs..and should we lose vs Boca the loser of AC/Bayern...those games are supposedly on ESPN

Then next week wednesday(5th) we host Valencia...then we travel to London to play the rent boys in the Community Shield

Dont worry about my team...and dont get to Cocky about yours..we are only in July rent boy...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on July 29, 2009, 06:31:08 AM
thank the massive fan base? - like the one in Indonesia?

Instead of commiserating with the fans after the bombing, allyuh run out on the first flight. Care about the fans ... or the cash? glory glory.

Ah hear Fergie still talking about other sides but his own ... and he just  can't   let    go   :'(   of      R o n  :'( a  l   :'(   d   o    :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ZionYouth on July 29, 2009, 06:52:20 AM
f**k man united... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on July 29, 2009, 07:19:38 AM
eh small mag, what kinda last man standing signature is that yuh have up dey?

how yuh ruff up 'Berby' so, de man cant even get a lil bling self? nutten for the rest of the lads like Ferdy, Vidas, Carricky, Oweny and Adolfy?? lol

also if yuh look good, is that Tevez i see peaking through on the right?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 29, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
eh small mag, what kinda last man standing signature is that yuh have up dey?

how yuh ruff up 'Berby' so, de man cant even get a lil bling self? nutten for the rest of the lads like Ferdy, Vidas, Carricky, Oweny and Adolfy?? lol

also if yuh look good, is that Tevez i see peaking through on the right?
I just like this sig....and yea that's how it will be for him and city..watching the back of united
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on July 29, 2009, 07:25:51 AM
Shrek go geh discarded dis year self :devil:
is only time
better have suffered that fate
watch de ride ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 29, 2009, 10:51:41 AM
Man U VS Boca

http://www.atdhe.net/8237/watch-boca-juniors-vs-manchester-united

HT- Man United 2 Boca Juniors 0

goals from Anderson with a beautiful free kick just outside the 18 and a Valencia Shot that the keeper messed up on.

PS. That Fabio looks kinda henny when he runs and I he does not seem to confident on the ball, his brother is wayyyy better than him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 05, 2009, 08:49:05 AM
Van Der Sar out till the end of September with a broken finger and bone in his hand after saving a penalty vs Bayern ... ???

Big Blow but I guess it's time for Foster to show his quality... hopefully he can stay fit till October 1st

Anyway Pre Season game vs Valencia at OT is live on Setanta at 3pm ET


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 05, 2009, 08:50:34 AM
Fergie writes off Reds
United boss expects Blues to be main title rivals

Sir Alex Ferguson believes Chelsea will provide the greatest threat to Man Utd this season, not Liverpool.

The Red Devils boss is hoping to lead his side to a fourth consecutive Premier League title, and knows competition for the crown will be fierce.

Liverpool pushed United all the way last season, eventually finishing just four points off the pace.

They are expected to challenge again in the 2009/10 campaign, but their chances of tasting top-flight glory have been all but written off by the manager of their fiercest rivals.

Ferguson insists Chelsea, under the guidance of new coach Carlo Ancelotti, are causing him greater concern heading into the new season and claims Liverpool will struggle to replicate their heroics of last term.

"It will be hard for them to match last season, let alone improve on it. Other teams will know more about them," Ferguson told The Sun.

"Liverpool had probably their best season for 20 years and still finished four points adrift.

"It has to be Chelsea as the main threat. Ancelotti will change how they play."
Improving

Ferguson has admitted that the summer sale of Cristiano Ronaldo and loss of Carlos Tevez will see him adopt a new approach this season, but he insists he has the talent at his disposal to counter the departures of two key members of his squad.

"People have misread our situation and they have under-estimated our ability to improve players. That is an area where we have proved successful in the past," he added.

"We are expecting a lot from (Jonny) Evans, (Danny) Welbeck, (Darron) Gibson, (Federico) Macheda and the Da Silva brothers.

"And Nani and Anderson have already shown good things, but they will improve this season.

"We will miss Ronaldo's goals, that's obvious.

"But (Dimitar) Berbatov will do well this year. And (Wayne) Rooney and (Michael) Owen are both capable of getting 20 goals, so we've got plenty of options."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5474032,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 05, 2009, 08:58:06 AM
Van Der Sar out till the end of September with a broken finger and bone in his hand after saving a penalty vs Bayern ... ???

Big Blow but I guess it's time for Foster to show his quality... hopefully he can stay fit till October 1st

Anyway Pre Season game vs Valencia at OT is live on Setanta at 3pm ET




I don't think is a big blow, cause God help us if we can't win without VDS. Plus it will give the Foster an opportunity to stake his claim. Best case scenario Foster lives up to the hype and VDS does not play as much.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on August 05, 2009, 09:48:30 AM
Fergie writes off Reds
United boss expects Blues to be main title rivals

Sir Alex Ferguson believes Chelsea will provide the greatest threat to Man Utd this season, not Liverpool.

The Red Devils boss is hoping to lead his side to a fourth consecutive Premier League title, and knows competition for the crown will be fierce.

Liverpool pushed United all the way last season, eventually finishing just four points off the pace.

They are expected to challenge again in the 2009/10 campaign, but their chances of tasting top-flight glory have been all but written off by the manager of their fiercest rivals.

Ferguson insists Chelsea, under the guidance of new coach Carlo Ancelotti, are causing him greater concern heading into the new season and claims Liverpool will struggle to replicate their heroics of last term.

"It will be hard for them to match last season, let alone improve on it. Other teams will know more about them," Ferguson told The Sun.

"Liverpool had probably their best season for 20 years and still finished four points adrift.

"It has to be Chelsea as the main threat. Ancelotti will change how they play."
Improving

Ferguson has admitted that the summer sale of Cristiano Ronaldo and loss of Carlos Tevez will see him adopt a new approach this season, but he insists he has the talent at his disposal to counter the departures of two key members of his squad.

"People have misread our situation and they have under-estimated our ability to improve players. That is an area where we have proved successful in the past," he added.

"We are expecting a lot from (Jonny) Evans, (Danny) Welbeck, (Darron) Gibson, (Federico) Macheda and the Da Silva brothers.

"And Nani and Anderson have already shown good things, but they will improve this season.

"We will miss Ronaldo's goals, that's obvious.

"But (Dimitar) Berbatov will do well this year. And (Wayne) Rooney and (Michael) Owen are both capable of getting 20 goals, so we've got plenty of options."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5474032,00.html

Hopefully, it's only mind games that Fergie's playing.

If not, he underestimates the real reds at his own peril.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 05, 2009, 02:38:57 PM
Valencia looks impressive!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 05, 2009, 07:08:45 PM
I am actually more excited about the side this season than last year. The team looks faster and hungrier with more youth coming thru. It also appears that the team will be playing a trapping style trying to deny the opposition time and space while creating chances. I think the team defence will be better which will also create more chances to strike on offense. The positive thing and difference between Valencia and Ronaldo is that Valencia will hug the wing and thereby spreading the field whereas Ronaldo's tendency to drift in made the field narrower taking away from the width. Lord Wrigley's ability to put players in situations that match their strengths and therefore succeed is second to none in the EPL. United has what Chelski, Liverstool and Arsenull lack; wingers!
Let the games begin!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Giggsy's Chestwig on August 05, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
Valencia looks impressive!

Manchester United 2 Valencia 0

An encouraging win capped by very good performances from Cleverley and Valencia (who set up both goals)...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 07, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
Exciting pre season game... United were much better in the 2nd Half... good performances by Valencia,Rooney and De Laet

Owen was good too.. made 3 out the 4 chances for himself which is what he is good at...just wasn't his day in front of goal but promising signs...

Big game on Sunday at 10am ET... The Rent Boys at Wembley ... Strong line up expected

Unfortunately Vidic looks set to miss the 1st prem game...

Players out vs Chelsea on Sunday: VDS, Vidic, Brown, Neville, Hargreaves and possibly Rafael

Expected Line Up:

Foster

O'Shea
Rio
Evans
Evra

Valencia
Anderson
Scholes
Nani

Rooney
Berbatov

Bench: Kuszczak, De Laet, Fabio, Park, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Macheda, Owen etc etc

6 subs can be made apparently
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2009, 12:13:24 PM
1-0 Rooney FT..3 Points..thank you very much
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 16, 2009, 03:12:41 PM
Why does ManU new kit reminds me of Star Trek?  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 19, 2009, 02:14:59 PM
Burnley bussing we throat yes... >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 19, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Lawd these men playing garbage  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on August 19, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
Burnley bussing we throat yes... >:(

burnwho?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: supporter on August 19, 2009, 02:31:45 PM
How de hell Ji Dung Park still on this team? He's a waste of a spot.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 19, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
How de hell Ji Dung Park still on this team? He's a waste of a spot.

You obviously not seeing Berbatov today...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 19, 2009, 02:46:24 PM
Imagine 50yearold Giggsy was the best player today! The  rest of the side should be shot with shite! Fergerson better buy some more players before 31/08/09. How the f*ck he can't see that midfield has and continues to be weak is beyond me! F*cking Carrick should be bossin the damn midfield! Park I thought was good enough for bottom feeders but not even today. Play the f*ckin youngsters if the Parks and Carricks of the world are going tuh keep playing this type of shite! The season jus start and ah have headache already!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 19, 2009, 02:48:15 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Fergie fooled himself into thinking that he had a good team that could still function after losing its main player.
Sorry, Fergie but your team is shit without C. Ronaldo.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: trinikev on August 19, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
Glory Glory boy!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2009, 02:51:09 PM
allyuh suprised? the writings were there from the previous games. too dependent on ronaldo. valencia cant fill d void. rooney is good but he cannot carry a team.

 chelsea smiles start to get wider
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 19, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
allyuh suprised? the writings were there from the previous games. too dependent on ronaldo. valencia cant fill d void. rooney is good but he cannot carry a team.

 chelsea smiles start to get wider

Spurs leading the table bredda... all yuh have  scorer like DeFoe???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 19, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
allyuh suprised? the writings were there from the previous games. too dependent on ronaldo. valencia cant fill d void. rooney is good but he cannot carry a team.

 chelsea smiles start to get wider

Spurs leading the table bredda... all yuh have  scorer like DeFoe???

That eh go last too long, doh worry!  Scorers like Defoe yuh say? Like yuh eh no bout de Ivorian awah?!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 19, 2009, 03:14:28 PM
Early days still....too early to call the race.  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 19, 2009, 03:18:07 PM
allyuh suprised? the writings were there from the previous games. too dependent on ronaldo. valencia cant fill d void. rooney is good but he cannot carry a team.

 chelsea smiles start to get wider

   Season now start......transfer window still hadda open and close, refs hadda get more involved, men hadda get injured.....I go only start to grin if is Christmas and manure and Liverpool still playin de same shit and Chelsea beatin' people. (but it still nice to see side like Burnley bobolizin this shit syde!  :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on August 19, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
meh belly hurting - fuss ah laugh so hard and so much with this epic ManUre performance.

Live up the moniker baby.

MID TABLE UNITED

Glory Glory!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: big dawg on August 19, 2009, 03:27:19 PM
men projecting a dissapointing season for Man U after 2 games ?!?.... that come like calling the election for a candidate after yuh get results in 2 States..

Season now start ppl.. 


have patience and watch Chelsea win !! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2009, 03:35:16 PM
well i said b4 the season start that this is a 2 horse race and manu not one of those horses.  i 4get how good harry is as a coach and ah underestimate spurs. it cost mi in fantasy but i go adjust that

I think this is the season where the big 4 will break  up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 19, 2009, 03:35:42 PM
men projecting a dissapointing season for Man U after 2 games ?!?.... that come like calling the election for a candidate after yuh get results in 2 States..

Season now start ppl.. 


have patience and watch Chelsea win !! :devil:

I agree it waaay to early fuh dem loose talk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2009, 03:55:14 PM
u all r looking at results i a looking at team play  but maybe its really too early, cause barca lost their 1st game last season to a newly promoted team. so  we shall c
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on August 19, 2009, 04:03:07 PM
so why didn't Rooney or Owen take the penalty?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 19, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
Good game today, the lads were working on keeping it simple. The league just started so nothing to worry about. We still have Roonay so things good.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 19, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Good game today, the lads were working on keeping it simple. The league just started so nothing to worry about. We still have Roonay so things good.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: dat songin familiar hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: freakazoid on August 19, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
one ah mi pardners have a question 4 fergie.................


Hello Mr Fergurson, how are you doing? Just checking up on you after your loss to a newly promoted, no star name player, low budget, came 5th in the championship, no glistening wall of trophies and presumably lower tier english premier league side. I... actually have one question i'd like to ask..... HOW YUH FEEL?!!!! HAHAHAHA, LOL!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 19, 2009, 05:09:57 PM
Agent: No Barca switch for Vidicby RivalsDM

Nemanja Vidic's agent has moved to reject claims he suggested the Manchester United defender is interested in a 'dream' move to Barcelona.


The 27-year-old Serbia international has impressed since arriving at Old Trafford from Spartak Moscow in 2006 and his great displays has led to speculation that several European clubs are interested in securing his services.

Barca have been mooted as possible suitors for Vidic, and quotes emerged from the player's agent intimating that he would be keen on a deal.

Paolo Fabbri was reported to have told Catalan radio station RAC-1 and El Mundo Deportivo: "It would be a dream for Vidic to play for Barcelona. He would be delighted to join them, as he wants to play in La Liga.

"We have to take a close look at the situation. But things are complicated at the moment. Manchester United have just lost Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez, and they do not want to lose another important player."

However, Fabbri has since denied he made such comments and has instead insisted Vidic is settled at Premier League champions United.

"This is not true," he said. "I never said these things. Nemanja is happy in Manchester. If Barcelona do make an offer for him, then it is up to United to make a decision."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 19, 2009, 05:33:01 PM
Agent: No Barca switch for Vidicby RivalsDM

Nemanja Vidic's agent has moved to reject claims he suggested the Manchester United defender is interested in a 'dream' move to Barcelona.


The 27-year-old Serbia international has impressed since arriving at Old Trafford from Spartak Moscow in 2006 and his great displays has led to speculation that several European clubs are interested in securing his services.

Barca have been mooted as possible suitors for Vidic, and quotes emerged from the player's agent intimating that he would be keen on a deal.

Paolo Fabbri was reported to have told Catalan radio station RAC-1 and El Mundo Deportivo: "It would be a dream for Vidic to play for Barcelona. He would be delighted to join them, as he wants to play in La Liga.

"We have to take a close look at the situation. But things are complicated at the moment. Manchester United have just lost Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez, and they do not want to lose another important player."

However, Fabbri has since denied he made such comments and has instead insisted Vidic is settled at Premier League champions United.

"This is not true," he said. "I never said these things. Nemanja is happy in Manchester. If Barcelona do make an offer for him, then it is up to United to make a decision."



   vidic cyah go to Barcelona anyway.....dey does play too much pretty football fuh he!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 19, 2009, 06:54:12 PM
Agent: No Barca switch for Vidicby RivalsDM

Nemanja Vidic's agent has moved to reject claims he suggested the Manchester United defender is interested in a 'dream' move to Barcelona.


The 27-year-old Serbia international has impressed since arriving at Old Trafford from Spartak Moscow in 2006 and his great displays has led to speculation that several European clubs are interested in securing his services.

Barca have been mooted as possible suitors for Vidic, and quotes emerged from the player's agent intimating that he would be keen on a deal.

Paolo Fabbri was reported to have told Catalan radio station RAC-1 and El Mundo Deportivo: "It would be a dream for Vidic to play for Barcelona. He would be delighted to join them, as he wants to play in La Liga.

"We have to take a close look at the situation. But things are complicated at the moment. Manchester United have just lost Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez, and they do not want to lose another important player."

However, Fabbri has since denied he made such comments and has instead insisted Vidic is settled at Premier League champions United.

"This is not true," he said. "I never said these things. Nemanja is happy in Manchester. If Barcelona do make an offer for him, then it is up to United to make a decision."



Amen
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 20, 2009, 09:40:17 AM
beam me up scotty rooney BURNLEY  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: acb on August 20, 2009, 12:56:38 PM
Saturday 9.55am ESPN 2 vs Wigan

Look for a brace from Scotty to sink Mid Table United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 26, 2009, 07:41:34 AM
Whappen the season eh start yet or what, how this thread all the way on page 3?


Manchester United line up shock swoop for former Chelsea star Arjen Robben
By Christopher Davies
Last updated at 11:51 AM on 25th August 2009

 
Manchester United could make a shock move for former Chelsea winger Arjen Robben.
The Holland star is out of a favour at Real Madrid and is eyeing a return to the Barclays Premier League.
 Flying Dutchman: Arjen Robben has been in top form for Real
Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted that he will not sign any more players this summer - but he may be tempted with a move for £25million-rated Robben.
 Temptation: Sir Alex Ferguson
He has been outstanding in pre-season games for Real but coach Manuel Pelligrini is having trouble accommodating him with new arrivals Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka and Karim Benzema.
Robben was close to joining United before he signed for Chelsea from PSV Eindhoven in 2004 and would provide the speed and goals neither Antonio Valencia nor Nani can offer.
Ferguson still has most of the £80m they received from Real for Ronaldo.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1208613/Manchester-United-line-shock-swoop-Chelsea-star-Arjen-Robben.html#ixzz0PIQ383Ov
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 26, 2009, 08:41:49 AM
Whappen the season eh start yet or what, how this thread all the way on page 3?


Manchester United line up shock swoop for former Chelsea star Arjen Robben
By Christopher Davies
Last updated at 11:51 AM on 25th August 2009

 
Manchester United could make a shock move for former Chelsea winger Arjen Robben.
The Holland star is out of a favour at Real Madrid and is eyeing a return to the Barclays Premier League.
 Flying Dutchman: Arjen Robben has been in top form for Real
Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted that he will not sign any more players this summer - but he may be tempted with a move for £25million-rated Robben.
 Temptation: Sir Alex Ferguson
He has been outstanding in pre-season games for Real but coach Manuel Pelligrini is having trouble accommodating him with new arrivals Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka and Karim Benzema.
Robben was close to joining United before he signed for Chelsea from PSV Eindhoven in 2004 and would provide the speed and goals neither Antonio Valencia nor Nani can offer.
Ferguson still has most of the £80m they received from Real for Ronaldo.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1208613/Manchester-United-line-shock-swoop-Chelsea-star-Arjen-Robben.html#ixzz0PIQ383Ov


That would be a bad move by Madrid... I honestly rate a fully fit Robben (in current/recent form) as more deadly in attack than the present day Kaka. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 26, 2009, 08:58:05 AM
United will not sign Robben. They have thatt French guy comming in January. Robben to damn injury prone and his time in England done. He might join Jose in Italy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Marcos on August 26, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
Robben ripped in preseason.
He made it impossible for Perez to give him the Huntelaar treatment.
He probably rippin up in training too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 11, 2009, 09:13:26 PM
Premier League Preview: Tottenham Hotspur - Manchester United
Pace-setting Spurs face stiffest test of season so far…


Saturday September 12, Kick-Off: 17:30 BST
White Hart Lane, London


The real deal?

Tottenham's storming start to this league campaign, which has seen them win all four of their games, couldn't be more different to the abject opening sequence they put together in 2008/09, under the ill-fated leadership of Juande Ramos.

Most of the credit for this new-found swagger goes to manager Harry Redknapp, who has instilled a team spirit into a group of players that previously had failed to gel. Up front, Jermain Defoe – ever the confidence player – is showing the sort of sharpness that makes you wonder why he was ever less than first-choice at Spurs, while the other senior strikers – Robbie Keane, Peter Crouch and Roman Pavlyuchenko – offer a useful blend of physiques and playing styles. The sense of balance is just as obvious in midfield, where Aaron Lennon and Luka Modric flank the engine room of Wilson Palacios and Tom Huddlestone/Jermaine Jenas; the unfortunate loss of Modric, who broke a bone in his leg in the 2-1 win against Birmingham, is a huge blow to the club's momentum. Thankfully, the emergency signing of Niko Kranjcar from Portsmouth should paper over that crack nicely.

There are, however, still question marks about this Spurs side, most notably about the frailty of its central defenders – stand up Ledley King and Jonathan Woodgate, if you can – and the mental state of goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes, for whom the phrase 'a rush of blood to the head' was invented.

Still, there are many more positives than negatives. Having soundly beaten Liverpool at White Hart Lane in their first game of the season, Spurs will not fear a visit from Manchester United. But as the season goes on, and injuries take their toll, I wonder how much longer they can survive near the summit of the league.

Intimidating track record

Manchester United have stuttered in the early stages of this campaign, as they seek to win an unprecedented fourth straight title. But Alex Ferguson will be comforted by his team's exemplary record against Tottenham. They have not lost to the north-London side in their last 16 league meetings, a run that dates back to May 2001, when Spurs won this corresponding fixture 3-1. Of course, such runs don't last forever, and Ferguson is wary of a Spurs team that has improved almost beyond recognition since the opening matches of last season.

Recent history apart, also in United's favour is the fact that many of their stars were not called upon during the international break, including Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Gary Neville, Michael Owen and Anderson. With so many players either rested or returning from injury, United won't be able to blame fatigue if they leave White Hart Lane without a point.

FORM GUIDE

Tottenham Hotspur

Aug 29 Tottenham 2-1 Birmingham
Aug 26 Doncaster 1-5 Tottenham (League Cup)
Aug 23 West Ham 1-2 Tottenham
Aug 19 Hull 1-5 Tottenham
Aug 16 Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool

Manchester United

Aug 29 Man Utd 2-1 Arsenal
Aug 22 Wigan 0-5 Man Utd
Aug 19 Burnley 1-0 Man Utd
Aug 16 Man Utd 1-0 Birmingham
Aug 9 Chelsea 2-2 Man Utd (Community Shield; Chelsea won 4-1 on penalties)


TEAM NEWS

Tottenham Hotspur

Centre-back Sebastien Bassong has recovered from a knock he picked up on international duty for Cameroon, and should start against the Premier League champions.

New signing Niko Kranjcar, who made little impact for Croatia in their 5-1 defeat by England at Wembley on Wednesday, is expected to replace compatriot Modric on the left side of midfield.

Ledley King's famously dodgy knees are not the problem this time – the fragile defender strained his groin against Birmingham – but he's tipped to start at the back alongside Bassong.

In goal, Carlo Cudicini will continue to deputise for the injured Heurelho Gomes.

Last starting XI: Cudicini, Bassong, Corluka, King (Hutton 46), Assou-Ekotto, Huddlestone, Lennon, Palacios, Modric (Crouch 49), Keane, Defoe (Pavlyuchenko 80).

Manchester United

Versatile Irishman John O'Shea is out with a calf strain and is set to be replaced at right-back by Gary Neville. United's club captain proved his fitness in a reserve game last week and will be desperate to return to the first team.

Rio Ferdinand suffered a thigh strain in the Community Shield in August and hasn't played since. But the English defender is back in training and will partner Nemanja Vidic as usual, subject to a late fitness test.

Last starting XI: Foster, Evra, Brown, Vidic, O'Shea, Giggs (Berbatov 85), Carrick, Nani, Fletcher, Valencia (Park 63), Rooney.


PLAYERS TO WATCH

Tottenham Hotspur



With his revelatory, man-of-the-match performance for England against Croatia on Wednesday, Aaron Lennon proved that he is one of the most-improved players in England. His raw pace and skill were never in question, but now there are welcome signs of maturity in the winger's overall play. Already this season, he has shown much greater intelligence in his use of the ball, especially in choosing when to cross – a glaring weakness in the old Lennon – and when to run at defenders. That said, if any full-back can keep him quiet, it's United's Patrice Evra. It should be a fascinating duel between two of the quickest performers in the league.

Manchester United



It's something of a football cliché that ex-players always return to haunt their old clubs, but that's exactly what Sir Alex Ferguson will hope Michael Carrick does at White Hart Lane tomorrow. Carrick's 'Marmite' status means he will always have his critics, but there's no doubt that the former Spurs star is now a key component in United's team. He is not a showy player but his range of passing and positional sense are both first-class – he has that rare ability to keep a team ticking over, even if many fans choose to ignore such an attribute. As Harry Redknapp searches for the best partner for Wilson Palacios in the heart of his midfield, no doubt many Tottenham supporters will spare a thought for the playmaker they once called their own.

PREDICTION

Spurs made light work of Liverpool at home on the opening weekend of the new season and their confidence will be high as they look to scalp another of the so-called 'big four'. Crucially though, there is now a Luka Modric-shaped hole in the hosts' midfield. The Croatian has been vitally important for Spurs so far this season, and although the pace of Aaron Lennon and Jermain Defoe will no doubt cause United problems at times, Modric will be sorely missed. In light of United's excellent record at Spurs, and with Rio Ferdinand back at the heart of their defence, I expect United to be good enough to take three points from what should be a very tight contest. No one would be surprised if it's Tottenham old boy Dimitar Berbatov – rather than Wayne Rooney, who ran his socks off for England on Wednesday and must still be slightly jaded – who gets the winning goal for the visitors.

Tottenham Hotspur 1-2 Manchester United

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 12, 2009, 06:54:00 AM
Unfortunately Lennon is Evra's daddy/worse nightmare! Fortunately no Modric.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2009, 10:34:48 AM
Man U down 1-0 within 50 seconds...bicycle kick by Defoe.... The makings of an entertaining affair. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
Man U roars back into this one 2-1 red devils...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 12, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Man U roars back into this one 2-1 red devils...

Ref having ah horrible game... clear dive by Berba on dat Gigg's free kick tuh equalize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on September 12, 2009, 12:27:28 PM
Easy win.....ManU 4 EVErrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 12, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
Unfortunately Lennon is Evra's daddy/worse nightmare! Fortunately no Modric.
It was the other way around tonight, Evra had a very good game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 12, 2009, 01:36:27 PM
spurs was sittin pretty,they finally see some competition.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Kayus on September 12, 2009, 08:30:42 PM
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Ref having ah horrible game... clear dive by Berba on dat Gigg's free kick tuh equalize.

nah man, he got fouled. plus palacios came in with 2 feet as well, so that didn't help neither.  berbatov did sell the foul tho.

Quote
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on September 14, 2009, 06:38:17 PM
Fair play to ManU...they deserved all 3 points.  It was pretty even until Scholes got sent off and then we suddenly looked bereft of ideas not to mention that we couldn't impose ourselves against 10 men.

We really missed Modric :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 14, 2009, 06:43:15 PM
Fair play to ManU...they deserved all 3 points.  It was pretty even until Scholes got sent off and then we suddenly looked bereft of ideas not to mention that we couldn't impose ourselves against 10 men.

We really missed Modric :-[


Modric was needed... but Spurs played well.. we were just at our best

I can see Spurs in the top 4 once they stay injury free

I feeling a win or draw at the bridge sunday... 3-1 Spurs...Defoe , Crouch and a late Pava header



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 14, 2009, 11:03:36 PM
Quote
Ref having ah horrible game... clear dive by Berba on dat Gigg's free kick tuh equalize.

nah man, he got fouled. plus palacios came in with 2 feet as well, so that didn't help neither.  berbatov did sell the foul tho.


If you could show me the contact on that tackle then you might have an argument.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2009, 08:51:45 AM
Fair play to ManU...they deserved all 3 points.  It was pretty even until Scholes got sent off and then we suddenly looked bereft of ideas not to mention that we couldn't impose ourselves against 10 men.

We really missed Modric :-[


Modric was needed... but Spurs played well.. we were just at our best

I can see Spurs in the top 4 once they stay injury free

I feeling a win or draw at the bridge sunday... 3-1 Spurs...Defoe , Crouch and a late Pava header


Doh even think about dat fella caw is level cutarse sharin in de Bridge!!  Bout feelin ah win or draw :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 15, 2009, 09:20:51 AM
Quote
Ref having ah horrible game... clear dive by Berba on dat Gigg's free kick tuh equalize.

nah man, he got fouled. plus palacios came in with 2 feet as well, so that didn't help neither.  berbatov did sell the foul tho.


If you could show me the contact on that tackle then you might have an argument.

Reckless challenge, but barely if any contact with the ball or player...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 15, 2009, 09:28:55 AM
Fair play to ManU...they deserved all 3 points.  It was pretty even until Scholes got sent off and then we suddenly looked bereft of ideas not to mention that we couldn't impose ourselves against 10 men.

We really missed Modric :-[


Modric was needed... but Spurs played well.. we were just at our best

I can see Spurs in the top 4 once they stay injury free

I feeling a win or draw at the bridge sunday... 3-1 Spurs...Defoe , Crouch and a late Pava header



take two gas tablet and buss a hard fart to deal with that 'feeling'...

is a feeling... it go pass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 20, 2009, 10:50:08 AM
Owen's stoppage time winner clinches win over CityAssociated Press

MANCHESTER, England (AP) - Michael Owen struck six minutes into stoppage time to give Manchester United a dramatic 4-3 victory over Manchester City on Sunday, halting the crosstown rival's perfect start to the Premier League season.
     
United had thrown away the lead three times after blunders at the back - the last coming when Rio Ferdinand gifted the ball to Craig Bellamy for his second goal of the game in the 90th minute.

"We made three horrendous mistakes, mistakes you don't even half associate with our team and it kept them in the game," United manager Alex Ferguson said. "I am unhappy because it spoiled what could have been a really emphatic victory. We could have won by six or seven today. It's probably the greatest derby game ever."

While Wayne Rooney had got United off to the best possible start with a goal inside two minutes, goalkeeper Ben Foster committed the first calamity to allow City striker Carlos Tevez, returning to Old Trafford following his offseason move from United, to set up Gareth Barry's equalizer.

Fletcher headed the Premier League champions briefly back in front at the start of the second half, but Tevez provided the ball for Bellamy to make it 2-2.

Bellamy was on target again after Fletcher nodded in another in the 80th minute, but Owen chose the perfect time to score his first goal for United at Old Trafford and vindicate manager Alex Ferguson's gamble on the 29-year-old forward.

"It was always going to create a little bit of noise me moving to Man United," said Owen, who joined after his Newcastle contract expired. "Even if they didn't take to me it's still a privilege to play in a team like this. It hasn't sunk in (scoring)."

After four successive wins, it was the first time City had dropped points since $200 million was spent strengthening the squad over the offseason.

City's Tevez, was predictably jeered in marked contrast to the outpouring of support from United fans on his last appearance here in May. Despite those "Fergie sign him up" chants, Tevez rebuffed a permanent deal to cross the Manchester divide.

The Argentina striker had been a doubt but passed a fitness test on Sunday morning on a knee injury sustained on international duty two weeks ago.

Initially, he had to operate as the lone striker in front of a five-man midfield as Emmanuel Adebayor, who had scored in each of City's opening four wins, started a three-match suspension for his stamp on Robin van Persie last weekend.

City was trailing with 1 minute, 55 seconds on the clock.

Micah Richards had made a crucial challenge to halt Rooney's advance. But the defending wasn't as sharp when Ryan Giggs took the resulting throw in, and Patrice Evra cut the ball back to Rooney, who brushed off challenges from Kolo Toure and Nigel de Jong to fire in his sixth goal of the season.

Despite United being in the ascendancy, Foster gifted City an equalizer. Foster, who had looked uneasy in the opening exchanges, was slow to react when Joleon Lescott's deep ball landed on the edge of the penalty area.

As Foster attempted to usher the ball into the area he was tackled by Tevez who then squared the ball to Barry and the England midfielder dispatched the ball into the net with only Nemanja Vidic to beat on the line.

The equalizer jolted United, whose early superiority had waned and Tevez was denied a goal on the stroke of half time by the post.


United started the second half as strongly as the first, with Giggs, playing in his 30th derby, crossing from the left and Fletcher rose above Barry at the far post to head beyond Shay Given.

The lead lasted less than three minutes. Tevez was again the provider, spotting Bellamy in space, the Welshman advanced and then curled the ball past Foster into the far top corner from the edge of the area.

Within minutes Park was replaced on the right by new recruit Antonio Valencia.

Given pulled off three superb saves in quick succession, with lightening reactions blocking two headers from Dimitar Berbatov and turning over Giggs' effort.

Fletcher was on target again after meeting Giggs' free kick with a far-post header.

City had twice come close in the final minute, but a mistake by Ferdinand enabled Bellamy to gallop forward and beat Foster from a tight angle.

A point looked to be City's until Giggs fed Owen, who replaced Berbatov in the 78th, to produce the winner in the sixth minute of stoppage time. City manager Mark Hughes immediately complained to the fourth official that the four minutes of announced stoppage time had expired, but to no avail.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 22, 2009, 10:49:03 AM
Manchester United Coach Alex Ferguson The World's Best
Sir Alex Ferguson has won the Goal.com poll for the world's greatest coach.
11 English Premier League trophies, five FA Cup wins, three Scottish Premier Division medals, and two Champions League final wins.

It doesn't get much more impressive than that. The haul was certainly enough to convince the majority of Goal.com voters to select Sir Alex Ferguson (he's been knighted too, of course) as the best coach in the world.

The Manchester United tactician has won everything put before him at the club level, and has kept a stranglehold on the EPL, winning more than half since the inception of the Premier League and the last three on the trot.

1999 will probably be remembered as the Scot's greatest year, when Manchester United won the EPL, the FA Cup, and the Champions League in an all-conquering treble.

The man who has won the one trophy Ferguson hasn't came in at fourth, sandwiched between England national team coach Fabio Capello and Barcelona's Pep Guardiola. Marcello Lippi is the only one of the bunch to have won the World Cup, but that honor couldn't earn him more than his 8% of the vote.

Sliding in at second was Inter coach Jose Mourinho. Besides being good for a quote with his fiery antics and antagonistic mind games, the “Special One” has won a multitude of trophies in his short career. With Porto in his native Portugal he won the domestic title and the Champions League. At Chelsea he conquered England. Now with Inter, he's already won a Scudetto in his first season in charge.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on September 23, 2009, 09:07:29 AM
i eh no big fan of any EPL side but i like this jersey.

(http://wedontknowfootball.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/200920091560.jpg?w=600&h=800)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 23, 2009, 09:09:09 AM
tevez lookin like ah tru gangster. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 23, 2009, 01:32:20 PM
Fabio shown his walking papers after getting burned by a Wolverhampton player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 23, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
http://www.atdhe.net/9474/watch-manchester-united-vs-wolverhampton (http://www.atdhe.net/9474/watch-manchester-united-vs-wolverhampton)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 23, 2009, 01:53:11 PM
Fabio shown his walking papers after getting burned by a Wolverhampton player.

shouldn't you be watching Chelsea vs QPR ?

or you just love watching United?... voyeur
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 23, 2009, 01:58:44 PM
Fabio shown his walking papers after getting burned by a Wolverhampton player.

shouldn't you be watching Chelsea vs QPR ?

or you just love watching United?... voyeur

See Chelsea is disposing of teams this season, but teams in red are needing extra help. Anyway is only one team looking threatening in this game, and they not in red.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 23, 2009, 02:55:15 PM
1-0 FT...United(Welbeck)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on September 23, 2009, 05:02:46 PM
Fabio shown his walking papers after getting burned by a Wolverhampton player.

shouldn't you be watching Chelsea vs QPR ?

or you just love watching United?... voyeur

See Chelsea is disposing of teams this season, but teams in red are needing extra help. Anyway is only one team looking threatening in this game, and they not in red.


Well just for the record, Chelsea - QPR was pretty dull.

Joe Cole made his return and was perhaps the best player on a sub-par night. He was having his way wid d QPR defenders but noone around him reallly had the attacking quality to assist him in midfield or attack, until Lamps came on for second half.

Borini played upfront...he is shite, looked devoid of talent or potential.

Debut for Zhirkov..he is clearly from the Glen Johnson school of defending and will always look to attack. Not quite Ashley Cole level though (a bit unfair, since Ashley Cole is arguably the best left back in the world this year).

Kalou actually looked half decent for a change. I guess he found his level against Championship opposition.

Sam Hutchinson could be the next John Terry. Good performance at the back.

Oh yeah, this is a Man U thread....carry on  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 23, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
Fabio shown his walking papers after getting burned by a Wolverhampton player.

shouldn't you be watching Chelsea vs QPR ?

or you just love watching United?... voyeur

See Chelsea is disposing of teams this season, but teams in red are needing extra help. Anyway is only one team looking threatening in this game, and they not in red.


Well just for the record, Chelsea - QPR was pretty dull.

Joe Cole made his return and was perhaps the best player on a sub-par night. He was having his way wid d QPR defenders but noone around him reallly had the attacking quality to assist him in midfield or attack, until Lamps came on for second half.

Borini played upfront...he is shite, looked devoid of talent or potential.

Debut for Zhirkov..he is clearly from the Glen Johnson school of defending and will always look to attack. Not quite Ashley Cole level though (a bit unfair, since Ashley Cole is arguably the best left back in the world this year).

Kalou actually looked half decent for a change. I guess he found his level against Championship opposition.

Sam Hutchinson could be the next John Terry. Good performance at the back.

Oh yeah, this is a Man U thread....carry on  ;D

Cashley isnt better than Evra
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TdotTrini on September 24, 2009, 08:42:11 AM
I was speaking with a manufacturer in Manchester this week, they commented on the "power/influence" of Sir Alex Ferguson. They went to the United v Arsenal game, half hour before the game the sprinklers were turned were turned on the Arsenal half of the pitch.  Not sure what to make of this strategy, but this a strategy that is adopted by other teams and countries. I recall hearing that the turf at BMO field being watered prior to a stage 2 world cup qualifier between Canada and some other team.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on September 24, 2009, 08:50:31 AM
I was speaking with a manufacturer in Manchester this week, they commented on the "power/influence" of Sir Alex Ferguson. They went to the United v Arsenal game, half hour before the game the sprinklers were turned were turned on the Arsenal half of the pitch.  Not sure what to make of this strategy, but this a strategy that is adopted by other teams and countries. I recall hearing that the turf at BMO field being watered prior to a stage 2 world cup qualifier between Canada and some other team.   
plumbing mishap.nutten more.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 24, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
That's normal thing. Things like leaving the grass longer on the side of the field if the other team have speedy wingers.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on September 24, 2009, 03:36:53 PM
I was speaking with a manufacturer in Manchester this week, they commented on the "power/influence" of Sir Alex Ferguson. They went to the United v Arsenal game, half hour before the game the sprinklers were turned were turned on the Arsenal half of the pitch.  Not sure what to make of this strategy, but this a strategy that is adopted by other teams and countries. I recall hearing that the turf at BMO field being watered prior to a stage 2 world cup qualifier between Canada and some other team.   

So seeing as kickoff/sides are only decided by a coin toss shortly before the players take the field, wetting the pitch a half hour before doesn't seem like the smartest of moves...granted United probably try to run the same way in the first half of each game, but if Arsenal won the toss and spotted the slick grass they could just pick the side they want?

A more likely reason: quite often sprinklers are turned on on one side of the pitch if only one side is out warming up and they're only using one goal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 25, 2009, 10:11:22 AM
I was speaking with a manufacturer in Manchester this week, they commented on the "power/influence" of Sir Alex Ferguson. They went to the United v Arsenal game, half hour before the game the sprinklers were turned were turned on the Arsenal half of the pitch.  Not sure what to make of this strategy, but this a strategy that is adopted by other teams and countries. I recall hearing that the turf at BMO field being watered prior to a stage 2 world cup qualifier between Canada and some other team.   
Correct meh if I am wrong, but don't they flip a coin to see which team gets the ball first and which side they want to start playing on? if so, then I guess Man.U sure to win every flip coin, so they know which side the water would be turned on half hour before the game. I think it's  :bs:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 25, 2009, 07:30:01 PM
tough game tomorrow away to Stoke

Nobody goes there and wins easily...  2 Chelsea Wins (2-0 last season and 2-1(95th) ) and 2 other teams won by small margins from Aug 08- present date

Last year we won 1-0 away, Tevez 86th...

It's going to be rough and tough and If we play our football with the right attitude we will win (possibly heavily) but I we make the mistake of underestimating or taking it easy we are in for a long 90 minutes

My prediction 3-0 United... 2 1st half goals(Rooney and Berba) and a Owen goal in the 75th to wrap it up

---------------------------------Foster

--O'Shea-----------Rio---------------------Vida----------Evra

--Valencia---------Fletch----------------Ando------------Giggs

-------------------Berba--------------Wazza




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 26, 2009, 09:57:50 AM
Stoke 0 Utd 2 FT Berba,O'Shea

 ;D ;D

Scholes man of the match.. Giggs came on and 2 assists..great performance by the golden oldies

And...WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE...AND THAT'S A FACT!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on October 01, 2009, 07:40:49 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on October 01, 2009, 08:24:06 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 02, 2009, 09:24:41 AM
Premier League Preview: Manchester United – Sunderland
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Kick-Off: Saturday 3 October, 17.30 BST
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Victory over Stoke City at the Britannia Stadium last weekend sent champions Manchester United back to the top of the table and with Chelsea taking on Liverpool on Sunday, they have the chance to consolidate that position with the visit of Sunderland.

Despite failing to really sparkle so far in this campaign Sir Alex Ferguson’s men have won their last eight games in a row thanks largely due to the impressive form of the evergreen Ryan Giggs.

After inspiring his side to victory last weekend at Stoke, the Welshman took the plaudits again in midweek with a vital contribution in United’s Champions League win over Wolfsburg, a match which also saw him notch up his 150th goal for the club.

Yet the Red Devils cannot continue to rely on the 35-year old who may, indeed, be rested for Sunday’s match after his recent heroics. However, having beaten Sunderland in 12 of their last 16 Premier League meetings, United should not lack for confidence.

Even so, the champions may need some form of inspiration to beat a buoyant Sunderland side who almost held on for a famous win at Old Trafford last season. A terrific defensive performance almost yielded a vital point until Nemanja Vidic popped up in the 90th minute to snatch a crucial win.

Breaking records

Sunderland, meanwhile, are enjoying their best ever start to a Premier League season and a 5-2 win over Wolverhampton Wanderers last weekend will have filled the Black Cats with confidence.

Despite the win, manager Steve Bruce bemoaned his team’s defending after the game, blasting it as “comical” at times, and the visitors will certainly need to tighten up if they are to emerge from Saturday’s fixture with any points.

Yet whilst defensively there are question-marks, offensively Sunderland are a different proposition and with Darren Bent, Kenwyne Jones and former Red Fraizer Campbell on the books, they boast a strike force to fear.

Indeed Bruce has this week hailed his forwards, describing them as “terrific”, and with 12 goals between them already this season, they are certainly delivering the goods.

Of course more will be needed if they are to secure victory over United for the first time since March 1997 - and their first at Old Trafford since May 1968.

FORM GUIDE

Manchester United

Sep 30: Manchester United 2-1 Wolfsburg
Sep 26: Stoke City 0-2 Manchester United
Sep 23: Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-1 Manchester United
Sep 20: Manchester United 4-3 Manchester City
Sep 15: Besiktas 0-1 Manchester United

Sunderland

Sep 27: Sunderland 5-2 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Sep 22: Sunderland 2-0 Birmingham
Sep 19: Burnley 3-1 Sunderland
Sep 12: Sunderland 4-1 Hull
Aug 29: Stoke 0-1 Sunderland

TEAM NEWS

Manchester United

Ben Foster will replace Thomas Kuszczak in goal after missing the Wolfsburg game. Michael Owen is out after aggravating a knock in midweek so Dimitar Berbatov should regain his place in the starting XI.

Possible Starting XI: Foster, O’Shea, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Valencia, Fletcher, Scholes, Nani, Berbatov, Rooney

Sunderland

Lee Cattermole has recovered from a heel problem and should start, as will skipper Lorik Cana who has shaken off an ankle knock. However, John Mensah is a doubt with a thigh injury and will have a late fitness test.

Possible Starting XI: Gordon, Turner, Mensah, Ferdinand, Richardson, Malbranque, Cana, Reid, Cattermole, Bent, Jones

PLAYERS TO WATCH

Manchester United – Darren Fletcher

The Scot has been one of United’s key players this season and therefore it was something of a surprise to see his name missing from the Red Devil’s team-sheet to face Wolfsburg in midweek.

Fletcher will surely be needed on Saturday, however, and against a Sunderland side that proved tough to break down last season, his drive and determination from midfield will certainly be required.

Sunderland – Darren Bent

Darren Bent is in superb form with seven goals in his last seven games and he has this week admitted he is full of confidence and playing as well as he has done for years.

Despite bagging a brace last weekend, the forward got a ticking off from his manager for handing spot-kick duties to Kenwyne Jones and he may be keen to make amends at Old Trafford.

PREDICTION

Games between these two have been tight in recent seasons and this fixture looks to be no exception. Sunderland were notoriously defensive on their last trip to Old Trafford, a policy that almost worked, but are likely to be more adventurous this time with strikers Bent and Jones in top form.

Yet that approach may just suit United, who will shuffle their pack from midweek, but should still have enough quality to sneak another win and maintain their place at the top of the pile.

Manchester United 4 -1 Sunderland

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 03, 2009, 12:38:43 PM
if allyuh men honest with allyuh self, allyuh will admit that Ben Foster is shit and there is no reason Tomas Kusczak should be on the bench..

If Kusczak was English he wouldve been playing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 03, 2009, 12:44:15 PM
if allyuh men honest with allyuh self, allyuh will admit that Ben Foster is shit and there is no reason Tomas Kusczak should be on the bench..

If Kusczak was English he wouldve been playing.

You may have a point about the English thing

but he has shown great potential and some stunning performances while on loan and when he got the chance last season and the season before he has done very well...

but he has been poor in his run of games this season..obviously suffering with nerves and confidence

I hope we dont let go of him in the summer as I think he will be a top class GK but he is going through a bad patch at the moment

Anyway VDS should be back very soon... good news for United
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on October 03, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
if allyuh men honest with allyuh self, allyuh will admit that Ben Foster is shit and there is no reason Tomas Kusczak should be on the bench..

If Kusczak was English he wouldve been playing.

You may have a point about the English thing

but he has shown great potential and some stunning performances while on loan and when he got the chance last season and the season before he has done very well...

but he has been poor in his run of games this season..obviously suffering with nerves and confidence

I hope we dont let go of him in the summer as I think he will be a top class GK but he is going through a bad patch at the moment

Anyway VDS should be back very soon... good news for United


It's just favouritism on the part of Foster really - because Kuzcack has done nothing not to deserve a shot at the #1 spot as well. If it had been Tomas making all these mistakes - I seriously doubt that Ferguson would have given him such leeway.

Neither of them are likely #1 keeper material (for Utd anyway - definitely not Foster) - but I have more faith in Kuzcack in the goal, simply because he's a more all-rounded keeper.

They're both not the best decision makers or the strongest mentally - but Kuzcack is at least 2 footed, not as rash as Foster, is more calm in goal, as good - if not better a shot stopper and is basically the same age (neither are that young for goalkeepers).

Foster has shown nothing to me in his time at Utd to suggest that he can take over once VDS leaves - he's made at least 1 crucial mistake in every game this season and has shown flaws in every department - Arshavin & Lampard goals (shot-stopping) - Tevez goal (decision-making) - Bellamy goal (positioning) - Jones goal (tenativeness on crosses & in general). He's just not a guy you can rely on when you need a calming influence at the back - this is something which destabilizes not only his confidence, but that of the defenders in front of him - which can only lead to more goals. Give him an easy basic game like against Stoke las week and sure he can look ok - but give him a high pressure fixture and he just wilts. It's not that I think he has potential but just won't fulfill it - I don't think he's that good period.

His spell at Watford I think overhyped him - because he was made to look better on a bad team. When you're the las line of defense on a poor side, and the expectations of you are only so high - you can afford to let in a few as long as u make a few nice saves. At Utd you can hardly afford to make any mistakes in goal - something which I cannot say I don't now expect out of Foster on a match to match basis.

Ferguson has never shown himself to be a great judge of true ability in the goalkeeping department (Taibi, Bosnich, Barthez, Ricardo, Carrol) - and it's unfortunate, but Foster is quickly becoming another one to add to that list. The sooner VDS returns the better - but until that time I'd like to see Tomas in goal for the remaining games - he can't be any worse than Foster's been so far, and I'd really be upset if Foster's left in goal to cost us future points.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on October 03, 2009, 01:14:03 PM
I don't ever post in these types of threads for my own reasons, but I have taken a good look at Man Utd over d course of this season and made some observations.

I wanted to c wha impact no Ronaldo would have on d team and after watchin them 3-4 teams my first and biggest observation is that d team have way too many 'needy' players. Ah don't know wha better word to use so excuse my poor vocabulary but i'll explain. They don't really have players who don't need d ball to be successful, matter of fact most of the men in this Man Utd team need to have d ball at they feet to get d best out of them. Giggs, Nani, Rooney, Berba, Carrick, Scholes. Other than Owen and Valencia who like to run in behind ppl and Fletcher and Anderson who are workers d main men need d ball. Look at d goal Ronaldo score for Madrid las week, jus a ball over d top and a finish, Man Utd don't have that in they arsenal. Lookin around d EPL Torres, Anelka, Defoe, Adebayor, Saha etc all these men can play off d ball...they just need one touch to kill you. And yes i know men gonna say Berbatov score off a bicycle but thats gonna happen less than 1% of d time, he needs d ball to be effective. A man like Nani...i think he have major potential but he like Quaresma needs to be in a team almost built around him where he have d ball all d time. So i jus think Sir Alex needs to look for more men who u could jus play a through ball too rather than men who need it at their feet all d time, so one time let me say I don't support any pursuit of David Silva cuz he need it too...there is after all only one ball on d field at a time.

if allyuh men honest with allyuh self, allyuh will admit that Ben Foster is shit and there is no reason Tomas Kusczak should be on the bench..

If Kusczak was English he wouldve been playing.

I support this fully as well, Foster is rubbish...period.

Anderson needs to play...end of story. Scholes is a luxury. Hargreaves will help. bless
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 03, 2009, 08:06:46 PM
when VDS got injured, Ferguson say it is a toss up between Foster and Kusczak..

Foster play one game and look nervy.. Kusczak play one and make some big save.

next thing boom, Fergie bawl he going with Foster.. And is only shit after that.. The Arsenal game to begin with.. then the Man City howler of a game.. Then today's game.. He eh looking good one bit.

Rush Foster when he get a backpass and is madness.. up to today, Vidic play one back to him and he nearly shit on heself... again. Then KJ outjump him for a floater.

Me eh no Man U fan but fair is fair.. How long now Kusczak paying dues?

This is why I never like Fergie, the man does clearly play favorites and this is just the latest example.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 08, 2009, 11:16:21 AM
Pogba joins Man Utd after Le Havre row endsAssociated Press

LONDON (AP) - FIFA has cleared French teenager Paul Pogba to play for Manchester United, though his former club Le Havre said Thursday it would still pursue the England champion for breach of contract.

FIFA said Man United could provisionally register Pogba through the English Football Association "with immediate effect" after it issued an international transfer certificate clearing the 16-year-old midfielder to play.

But the decision by a judge working for the FIFA Players' Status Committee does not prevent Le Havre formally asking for an investigation into how United came to sign the France youth international.

"As always, the decision of the single judge was with regard to the authorization to provisionally register the player in question," FIFA said in a statement.

Le Havre issued a statement calling the issue of Pogba's transfer certificate "a nonevent."

"Moreover, and as outlined in the FIFA decision, the issue of the provisional international certificate does not prejudge the outcome of the case," the club said.

Le Havre said it will now ask FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber to rule on the case.

The disputes panel has twice issued transfer bans this year - against Chelsea and Swiss club FC Sion - in breach-of-contract cases involving players who previously had received international clearance.

Last month, Chelsea was banned from signing any players until January 2011 after the panel judged it had lured Gael Kakuta to break his contract with French club Lens.

The London club signed Kakuta as a 16-year-old in 2007 and got FIFA permission to play him - then was punished two years later.

Chelsea and Kakuta were also ordered to pay Lens €910,000 ($1.34 million) and the player was banned for four months.

Chelsea's lawyers are studying the FIFA panel's full ruling before launching an appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

FIFA's player status panel granted Sion permission to register Egypt goalkeeper Essam El Hadary in April 2008. But 14 months later, the disputes panel ruled that El Hadary broke his contract with former club Al-Ahly.

Sion was banned from signing players until after the 2009-10 season and ordered to pay the Egyptian club ?900,000 compensation. El Hadary also got a four-month ban.

Sion appealed to CAS despite a request from FIFA president Sepp Blatter to accept the verdict, and the court froze those punishments while it considers the case. A ruling is expected later this year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 08, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
was never worried..we are professionals... we're not Chelsea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
was never worried..we are professionals... we're not Chelsea

Now is not when yuh need to worry so be easy an keep Blues out yuh mout yute!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 08, 2009, 05:32:06 PM
Andy Cole Memories... From the Manchester Evening News... a good read.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1161922_cole_on_keane_and_sheringham

Cole on Keane and Sheringham

October 08, 2009
IN the second and final part of M.E.N. Sport's serialisation of Andy Mitten's new book `Glory, Glory' about United in the 1990s, Stuart Mathieson takes a look at extracts from the chapter on striker Andrew Cole.

Cole signed for the Reds from then major rivals Newcastle United in a sensational transfer £6m transfer in January 1995, with Keith Gillespie going in the opposite direction.

COLE ON HIS DEBUT SEASON

Cole scored five times in the record 9-0 victory over Ipswich Town seven games into his Old Trafford career but losing out on the league to Blackburn on the final day of the season at Upton Park is the match that stands out in his memory.

"I got a lot of criticism that day," said Cole. "Ludek Miklosko was unbelievable in the net. I hit the post but we couldn't get a winner.

"Those people in the media who had said I had been brought in to win the championship were now saying that I had cost United the league.

"I took too much of it to heart. I was devastated by how much flak I took because it implied that I wasn't committed to United. I was - I'd even missed the birth of my first child to play for United a few weeks before."

COLE ON ERIC CANTONA

"He was the only player I saw who the manager never had a go at. We all went to a film premiere and were told to wear black ties. Eric turned up in a cream lemon suit with Nike trainers. The manager told him that he looked fantastic. I liked Eric and considered him friendly."

COLE ON TEDDY SHERINGHAM

"Our problems started when I made my England debut. I replaced Teddy. I was making my debut. Maybe I was naive, but I think he should have wished me all the best.

"I was nervous, as anyone would be. Instead, he walked straight past me and blanked me. It's not like I told Terry Venables to take Teddy off.

"So I was devastated when Teddy Sheringham signed for United because I couldn't stand him. We played a friendly in Milan in 1997, just after he'd signed. He said something on the pitch. I didn't like it. 'I'm only trying to help you,' he said. 'I don't need your help,' I replied."

Ironically, the striking partnership between the two thrived.

COLE ON ROY KEANE

Roy Keane and Cole enjoyed a positive relationship.

"Not everyone did," said Cole, "but we didn't have a cross word. He knew my character and I knew his. I called him 'Schiz' and got away with it so he must have liked me.

"We came in at half-time at Highfield Road one year. We'd not been playing well and Schiz started raving at Gary Neville. Nev gave it him back and Roy flipped and started chasing him around the dressing room. It was hilarious.

"The manager came in and settled him down.

"We went to Spain one year to train. Schiz always ended up taking Quinton Fortune out with ferocious tackles. The gaffer saw this one and came over, telling him to calm down.

"Roy told him to keep his oar out. The manager abandoned training. The lads couldn't believe what they were seeing.

"I had a set-to with Teddy on the pitch. Everybody knew that Teddy wasn't my cup of tea and I wasn't his. We came in at half-time and it was going to go off between me and Teddy.

"Schiz calmed me down, but then he wanted to start fighting Teddy.

"He could be really, really cutting. He used to hammer Yorkie. During a game. He'd hammer him for his touch. Yet he never did it to me."

COLE ON YORKE

"I liked Yorkie. We were totally different. Dwight was, 'Look at me, I play for Manchester United, I've got a nice bird and car.' I'm the opposite.

"I bought a Porsche one year but was so self-conscious that I couldn't drive it. It took me two months to drive it to training. Yorkey had no such worries."

COLE ON LEAVING UNITED

United signed Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2001. Here, finally, was the new striker who pushed Cole to the sidelines.

"One day I knocked on the manager's door. I'd always had a brilliant relationship with him and he was great in that meeting.

"I told him that I didn't want to be sat on the bench. I didn't want to steal a wage. I wanted fans to come up to me and say that I had put a good shift in for my wages.

"The manager told me that he didn't want me to go, but said, `I know how you are, understand where you are coming from and will let you go.' In hindsight, I should have swallowed my pride."

GLORY, Glory! Man United in the 1990s - The Players' Stories written by Andy Mitten is published by VSP and comes out October 12.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Pur_Trini on October 09, 2009, 03:50:22 AM
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Edwards_has_debt_concerns&in_article_id=749581&in_page_id=43

Edwards has debt concerns
Thursday, October 8, 2009

Former Manchester United chairman Martin Edwards has expressed concern about the debt accrued by the club under the Glazer family.

Edwards, himself no stranger to controversy during his time at Old Trafford, resigned as chairman in 2002 but remains an honorary life president at the club, a non-executive role.

"It concerns me that the club are in so much debt," he said. "The club are not in control; that family are in control of the debt."

Malcolm Glazer completed his takeover in 2005 amid much anger from supporters' groups, leaving the club with debts in the region of £700million.

"I can understand where the fans are coming from with their concerns," said Edwards.

"The crunch time will come when they [the Glazers] exit. Will they saddle the club with the debt or just sell the club on for a profit because that's all they are interested in? How will they leave the club?

"I'm not going to make any accusations because up to now they have behaved fairly well, supporting the manager, and they haven't disrupted the running of the club or the personnel. Time will tell."

Edwards recommended a takeover bid from BSkyB, worth £623million, when he was at the Old Trafford helm.

"I thought Sky would have taken Manchester United to a level where nobody could have got near us," he said in a new book by Andy Mitten, Glory, Glory! Man United in the 1990s. "That's why I recommended their offer in 1998. When they approached us, we had gone 30 years without winning the European Cup.

"I felt that they could have pushed us on to the next level."


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 09, 2009, 04:59:04 AM
Martin Edwards can f*$k right off...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 17, 2009, 11:49:09 AM
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United 2 Bolton 1

BACK ON TOP BABY!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 17, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
still think its funny pepe eyes follow the red ball

even funnier, it was a liverpool beach ball too funny

i wonder if manu trying something different this season and try to be the first team to win the league with the most amount of points earned through opposition scoring won goals arsenal and bolton haded manu 6 points so far, who's next?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 19, 2009, 08:48:53 AM
Rooney, Giggs, Evra, Park & Fletcher miss Manchester United's trip to CSKA Moscow
Five big names miss midweek trip to Russia...

Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, Darren Fletcher, Park Ji-Sung and Patrice Evra will all be missing when Manchester United face CSKA Moscow in the Champions League on Tuesday night.

The quintet have been ruled out of the game at the Luzhniki Stadium with a variety of knocks and strains, according to United's official website.

Two players who have made the trip who were originally thought doubtful are striker Dimitar Berbatove, whose girlfriend gave birth in Bulgaria in last week, and centre-back Nemanja Vidic.

Full squad:

Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Foster; Neville, Rafael, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Vidic, Brown, J Evans, Fabio; Valencia, Scholes, Carrick, C Evans, Anderson, Nani; Owen, Berbatov, Macheda, Welbeck
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 20, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Ah little off note, anyone can help ah manu brudder out as I'm looking for some baby gear.  De baby coming in Dec and I want to out fit dem right.  PM if you know when I can get some stuff. Thanks :beermug:

MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 20, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
Ah little off note, anyone can help ah manu brudder out as I'm looking for some baby gear.  De baby coming in Dec and I want to out fit dem right.  PM if you know when I can get some stuff. Thanks :beermug:

MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :beermug:

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/product_browse.aspx?category|category_root|1549=baby+and+infants

congrats  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 20, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
Ah little off note, anyone can help ah manu brudder out as I'm looking for some baby gear.  De baby coming in Dec and I want to out fit dem right.  PM if you know when I can get some stuff. Thanks :beermug:

MANU 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :beermug:

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/product_browse.aspx?category|category_root|1549=baby+and+infants

congrats  :beermug:

Thanks man
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 21, 2009, 07:47:54 AM
game live on fsc @ 12:30
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on October 21, 2009, 01:13:59 PM
CSKA Moscow 0-1 Manchester United



An Antonio Valencia halfvolley five minutes from time was enough to secure a 1-0 victory for Mancester United at CSKA Moscow as they returned to the scene of their Champions League triumph back in 2008.

Nemanja Vidic looked shaky during the early stages of the match, and on five minutes his Sloppy play in the middle of United’s half presented Milos Krasic with an opportunity to attack.  The midfielder proceeded by dummying Rio Ferdinand, but unfortunately for CSKA his struck effort from the edge of the box lofted shot wildly over van der Sar’s goal.

Igor Akinfeev, relatively untroubled thus far in the half, demonstrated a moment of uncertainty on the quarter-hour mark as the Russian goalkeeper flapped unimpressively a deep cross from Fabio Da Silva.

Brazilian midfielder Anderson, under much scrutiny so far this season attempted to impress his manager a fans with a free kick on 25 minutes, but his tame effort made easy picking for Akinfeev.   

Moments later, veteran Paul Scholes hit a far more impressive effort.  Incorporating the much talked-about artificial surface, Scholes hit a strike from around thirty yards which bounced awkwardly in front of Akinfeev, and the goalkeeper could only parry away nervously. 

On the half hour mark, Berezutsky whipped in a cross towards Necid; but the forwards headed attempt was tentative, and van der Sar was able to gather the ball effortlessly.

The best effort of the half surfaced on 38 minutes, but via the most unlikely of sources.  Latching onto a Berbatov knock-back after good initial work from Nani down the left flank, United captain Gary Neville hit a curled effort with his weaker left foot, which flew tantalisingly over with Akinfeev grounded. 

The first half petered out during the final ten minutes with neither side willing to commit too many players forward, and subsequently the half ended goalless.

With the start of the second half, it was apparent that an increased emphasis and willingness to attack had entered the match, with both sides looking to test their opposing goalkeepers. 

United started brightly, dominating the play from the restart.  Nani continued to impress down the left wing, and fired in a delightful cross into the box, only to find that there was no-one in Red at the attacking back post.

Rio Ferdinand continued his stuttering start to the season, losing the ball with a misplaced pass which Necid intercepted.  The striker opted to hit his strike early, but it was a tame effort that drifted wide of van der Sar’s left post.

With ten minutes played in the second half, the match looked to erupt into life, as two key decisions were made in quick succession.  When Berbatov broke into the CSKA box, before going down under pressure, the movements of referee initially indicated that he was about to award United a penalty; but proceeded to book the Bulgarian for simulation. 

Moments later, Moscow had the ball in the net, only for the referee to disallow Dzagoev’s goal for offside to relief of Fabio.  The young Brazilian gave the ball away to Necid, who found Dzagoev in space, but the midfielder was offside when he applied his finish.

Ferdinand was spared further discomfort when he was removed on 56 minutes and replaced by Wes Brown, with Sir Alex Ferguson no doubt preserving the England centre for the weekends match with Liverpool.

A great save from Akinfeev denied United the opener on 59 minutes, as the away side continued to dominate possession.  A superb delivery from Neville picked-out Nani in the box, and the Portuguese winger latched onto to it majestically with a diving header, only for Akinfeev to pull off a world class save, tipping the ball wide at full stretch.

Sir Alex Ferguson looked to capitalise on his sides domination of play, and brought on Michael Owen for the final twenty minutes of the half.  The striker missed a glorious chance to put United a goal up on 75 minutes, after great work by Valencia.  Finding space inside CSKA’s box, Owen had a golden chance from six yards but failed to make contact with the ball to the dismay of the travelling support.

Valencia almost rewarded United with the lead they deserved when on 81 minutes the lightning quick wizard rattled Akinfeev’s crossbar after a great one-two with Nani.

However, the Ecuadorian was not to be denied for a second time.  After more good wing wizardry from Nani, Berbatov’s knocked the ball down to the explosive midfielder, and Antonio Valencia out-paced his marker to fire a half volley past the impressive Igor Akinfeev with less than five minutes remaining on the clock.

United looked to seal the game in the final moments but to no avail. Nevertheless Sir Alex Ferguson will be delighted with his sides performance this evening, and more importantly the victory.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on October 24, 2009, 08:19:55 AM
who buying one of these gift sets for the match tomorrow?  ;D
(http://admin.clickliverpool.class-media.co.uk/admin/article/articleimages/1256047407-Liverpool%20Beach%20ball.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 24, 2009, 10:01:36 AM
i have a sneeky suspicion that shitty liverpool just might poison you lot tomo


but its the same sneeky suspicion i have that rafa is going to cock it up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 25, 2009, 02:38:46 AM
Liverpool v Man Utd preview
Liverpool will be looking to kick-start their season when they welcome arch-rivals Manchester United to Anfield on Sunday.

The Reds' 2-1 reverse at home to Lyon in the UEFA Champions League on Tuesday was their fourth consecutive loss - their worst run of results for 22 years - and defeat against United would further increase the pressure on manager Rafa Benitez.

As if things couldn't get any worse for Liverpool they face the prospect of going into the must-win match without inspirational captain Steven Gerrard.

The England ace returned to action, having missed the 1-0 defeat at Sunderland last week, against Lyon but lasted just 25 minutes due to the troublesome groin injury he picked up while on international duty.

The hosts will take heart from the fact that they were victorious the last time the Premier League champions visited Anfield with Gerrard and star striker Fernando Torres both on the bench.

Although Red Devils defender Gary Neville insists revenge is not on the cards United must still be smarting over the manner of the defeat at the hands of Liverpool last time out when they were hammered 4-1 at Old Trafford.

United have been dealt an injury blow of their own with the news that Wayne Rooney remains a doubt for the game with a calf strain.

The 23-year-old had said previously that he would miss the game to be at the birth of his first child with the baby expected on the day of the game. However it appears the frontman could be about to miss the match anyway.

United have performed well without Rooney having beaten Bolton 2-1 last weekend and CSKA Moscow on the plastic pitch on Wednesday in the Champions League.

Although both set of players would never admit it victory for United could effectively end Liverpool's title hopes with a possible three points for champions taking them 10 points clear of their rivals and inflicting their fourth Premier League defeat of the season.

Liverpool news
Despite Gerrard being a major doubt, Liverpool do expect to have Torres back after the Spaniard missed the defeats against Sunderland and Lyon with a groin strain.

Glen Johnson was another to miss the Lyon clash with a groin injury but the right-back is hopeful he will recover in time for the visit of United.

Summer signing Alberto Aquilani made his long-awaited first appearance in a Reds shirt when he played 15 minutes for the reserves in midweek but the game on Sunday has come too soon for the Italian international.

Another summer arrival in Sotiros Kyrgiakos is out after suffering a knee injury while playing for Greece earlier this month.


Man Utd news
Despite question marks being raised over Rooney's fitness, United have both Ryan Giggs and Patrice Evra back in contention after the pair missed the Champions League match in Moscow.

However midfielder Darren Fletcher remains a doubt with a knee injury while Park Ji-Sung (knee) looks certain to be ruled out.

Rooney's possible absence could hand Michael Owen the chance to start against his former club although manager Sir Alex Ferguson could opt to use Dimitar Berbatov as a lone striker should Rooney miss out.

Nemanja Vidic came through the clash with CSKA unscathed after missing the Bolton match with an ankle problem so he will start again.

Owen Hargreaves (knees) is nearing full fitness but is unlikely to be named on the bench.

Possible starting XIs:

Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Insua, Agger, Mascherano, Benayoun, Lucas, Kuyt, Babel, Torres.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Giggs, Scholes, Anderson, Valencia, Rooney, Berbatov.
http://www.skysports.com/football/match_preview/0,19764,11065_3162388,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 06:02:33 AM
liverpool will be going down faster than an anchor today.......not quite the result I prefer, but, it is what it is. CHELSEA FOREVER!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 08:03:06 AM
No Gerrard today... but Torres is back.  Odds are stacked against us but I think we'll acquit ourselves well regardless.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 08:22:13 AM
good to see liverpool enjoying such a good start.....but we know all too well (as manu fans can so painfully attest) that a good start is not enough.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Warrior30 on October 25, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
de bird sitting next to Gerrad not to bad looking  :devil: no wonder he out injured today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 25, 2009, 09:00:24 AM
good fast paced game so far, with liverpool having the better of it.. Both teams trying real hard to intimidate the referee, probably given its his first game at this level.

there is a player in Liverpool's central midfield that bears a striking resemblance to Lucas.. he playing real good, who is he?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 09:12:32 AM

there is a player in Liverpool's central midfield that bears a striking resemblance to Lucas.. he playing real good, who is he?


 :rotfl:



  Why kuyt didn't shoot de blasted ball?!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:19:01 AM
Superb opening hour by Johnson... although as I type that it was his mistake that led to that last break out leading to the United free kick.

Carra's played his best game of the campaign thus far... solid turn by Agger filling in for Skrtel as well.

Torres, Kuyt and Benayoun are having really good games up front... an all around good performance by Liverpool thus far.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2009, 09:24:50 AM
YESSSS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:25:30 AM
Brilliant sweeping move by Liverpool... Benayoun to Kuyt, back to Benayoun... to Torres... back of the net.

1-0 Liverpool in the 65'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on October 25, 2009, 09:25:50 AM
great goal by Torres.....Lucas could foul..geezzz
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2009, 09:34:06 AM
For the kind of skills Berbatov has, you'd think he'd be doing better at United.

That fella should have stayed with Hotspur.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:39:12 AM
Liverpool starting to concede too much posession in midfield now... Ngog for Kuyt.


------------------

Torres it is... Ngog have huge shoes to fill, on sheer effort... for the remaining 10 mins.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2009, 09:49:51 AM
The Ref cutting years off Sir Alex life
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 09:51:03 AM
......and men does want to call he one of the best defenders in the world.......rel loud steups.....de man is a bonehead play waiting to happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2009, 09:51:10 AM
5 Minutes!!!!!
 :o

BS!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
Where de ass dem 5 mins come from?

Vidic sending off consume the most time all game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
.....and watch the manu players surround de ref in protestation after the final  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:54:48 AM
What a bullshit red card....  10 v 10
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2009, 09:56:01 AM
Who was saying Lucas would get the card?

Look a next minute for the red card


YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 09:56:11 AM
TAKE DAT IN ALLYUH PWEFFEN!!


Torres was a boss... but Carra, Insua (kept Valencia silent all game), Johnson, Kuyt, Benayoun, Lucas... Mascherano (undeserved red card)

MOM.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 09:57:01 AM
Who was saying Lucas would get the card?

Look a next minute for the red card


YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!




   Dat was NOT a foul!..................justice prevailed
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 25, 2009, 09:58:02 AM
For the kind of skills Berbatov has, you'd think he'd be doing better at United.

That fella should have stayed with Hotspur.
I said it at the beginning of the season...Berbatov is garbage!!! Anderson should have started in front of Scholes

Congrats Liverpool fans!!! :beermug: The better team won.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Organic on October 25, 2009, 09:59:03 AM
get ready for the blame the ref session!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mal jeux on October 25, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
Manchester old men and lack of creativity was exposed by a Liverpool team on a mission the 2nd half. Nice to watch as a neutral fan.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Stamford Bridge extends a hearty congratulations to liverpool on today's well deserved victory.  Rooney declared, before the season, that he has all the goals in him that swan dive-boy took to Madrid with him......well...it still have 28 games left...my bad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 25, 2009, 10:03:40 AM
Torres doh miss those nah.
Man U was threatenin to equalise right down to the end, but IT GOOD FOR DEM!!

Benayoun, Kuyt and Torres  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 25, 2009, 10:05:43 AM
Season has not been enjoyable thus far, but this victory is sweet..... ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 25, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Season has not been enjoyable thus far, but this victory is sweet..... ;D
it's about time you all have something to smile about.... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 10:09:31 AM
Manchester old men and lack of creativity was exposed by a Liverpool team on a mission the 2nd half. Nice to watch as a neutral fan.


 
   If cronaldo was still dey, I'm sure dey woulda at least get a penalty out of today's game. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 25, 2009, 10:10:47 AM
just wanted to bring up from the extra time debate that started with the Man Utd v Man City derby...

In that game, men were arguing that the additional 2 mins came from the substitutions, the cards and the goal in injury time..

I said at that point that if this were true, a ref should never be able to blow off the game when immediately after kick off when a goal scores deep into injury time.

Men said they never saw that happen, well look it just happened today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 25, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
Manchester old men and lack of creativity was exposed by a Liverpool team on a mission the 2nd half. Nice to watch as a neutral fan.


 
   If cronaldo was still dey, I'm sure dey woulda at least get a penalty out of today's game. 

Too much speculation.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 10:16:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/11MQnQ8QjJs
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Season has not been enjoyable thus far, but this victory is sweet..... ;D

The difference was all in the back... man was calling for Agger to replace Carra, but instead was Skrtel who started on the bench and Johnson, Carra, Agger and Insua were impenetrable at the back.  Not saying that Skrtel is the problem, don't think he is... I think Carra was more assertive, confident and determined today.

Had Rooney handcuffed all game... same for Insua on Valencia.  Johnson and Agger were able to frustrate the central mids of Giggs and Scholes.  That was the key.  Add to that inspired play by Mascherano and Lucas, then Kuyt, Benayoun and Torres... it really hard to find a Liverpool player who put a foot wrong all game... the odd foul here and there notwithstanding.  Mascherano should not have been booked, let alone sent off.

Kudos to Ngog for making the most of his 10 mins... especially in light of the poor turn out in the week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 25, 2009, 10:44:57 AM
Season has not been enjoyable thus far, but this victory is sweet..... ;D

The difference was all in the back... man was calling for Agger to replace Carra, but instead was Skrtel who started on the bench and Johnson, Carra, Agger and Insua were impenetrable at the back.  Not saying that Skrtel is the problem, don't think he is... I think Carra was more assertive, confident and determined today.

Had Rooney handcuffed all game... same for Insua on Valencia.  Johnson and Agger were able to frustrate the central mids of Giggs and Scholes.  That was the key.  Add to that inspired play by Mascherano and Lucas, then Kuyt, Benayoun and Torres... it really hard to find a Liverpool player who put a foot wrong all game... the odd foul here and there notwithstanding.  Mascherano should not have been booked, let alone sent off.

Kudos to Ngog for making the most of his 10 mins... especially in light of the poor turn out in the week.

Good synopsis...Carragher was playing today like he knows what this rivalry is all about.  He is definitely beaten for pace though, but that's a totally different topic.  What makes Rafa afraid to put him on the bench is that he is the epitomy of Liverpool.  What can I say about Torres?  You isolate the man 1v1 and he is potent. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 25, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
allyuh does play better without gerald and it showed today. Allyuh hustle the midfield well and utd didnt have an answer today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 25, 2009, 11:34:08 AM
Manchester old men and lack of creativity was exposed by a Liverpool team on a mission the 2nd half. Nice to watch as a neutral fan.


 
   If cronaldo was still dey, I'm sure dey woulda at least get a penalty out of today's game. 

Too much speculation.....


  Oh GAWSH allyuh win a importannt game and yuh STILL sour eh! You can't tell the difference between speculation and SARCASM jed?!   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on October 25, 2009, 11:43:31 AM
allyuh does play better without gerald and it showed today. Allyuh hustle the midfield well and utd didnt have an answer today.

 ??? Gerald?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REy9ZMY7LGY

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 25, 2009, 11:51:50 AM
good game scousers...cant believe we didnt "show up"

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 25, 2009, 12:32:19 PM
allyuh does play better without gerald and it showed today. Allyuh hustle the midfield well and utd didnt have an answer today.

 ??? Gerald?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REy9ZMY7LGY

 :rotfl:

HEHEAHAEHAEHEHAHEHHEHAEAHAA

dats a real classic
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 25, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
 :yawning:

well that was a borin game. manchester just did not show up today even though they got

7 MINUTES EXTRA TIME!!!!!!!! how d ref came up with that!  nobody knows  ::)

oh well, CHELSEA on TOP and that is all that matters  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on October 25, 2009, 02:07:19 PM
just wanted to bring up from the extra time debate that started with the Man Utd v Man City derby...

In that game, men were arguing that the additional 2 mins came from the substitutions, the cards and the goal in injury time..

I said at that point that if this were true, a ref should never be able to blow off the game when immediately after kick off when a goal scores deep into injury time.

Men said they never saw that happen, well look it just happened today.

Breds if yuh score with 0 seconds on the clock, why should extra time be added?  Time is added to make up for the time that got run off the clock because of the celebrations etc while there was still time remaining, but if the goal was scored with nothing left, there is no rationale to add time because no time was run off the clock by the celebration....plus it was 2-0...it was game set match.

Enjoyable game overall- Liverpool deserved to win...no specatular performances but great energy all around.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 25, 2009, 02:11:20 PM
good game scousers...cant believe we didnt "show up"



allyuh "showed up" and get allyuh ass rinse!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 25, 2009, 02:12:14 PM
just wanted to bring up from the extra time debate that started with the Man Utd v Man City derby...

In that game, men were arguing that the additional 2 mins came from the substitutions, the cards and the goal in injury time..

I said at that point that if this were true, a ref should never be able to blow off the game when immediately after kick off when a goal scores deep into injury time.

Men said they never saw that happen, well look it just happened today.

Breds if yuh score with 0 seconds on the clock, why should extra time be added?  Time is added to make up for the time that got run off the clock because of the celebrations etc while there was still time remaining, but if the goal was scored with nothing left, there is no rationale to add time because no time was run off the clock by the celebration....plus it was 2-0...it was game set match.

Enjoyable game overall- Liverpool deserved to win...no specatular performances but great energy all around.....

good point, i'll have to have another look at it to see how much time was left.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on October 25, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
Bakes wha yuh think of Lucas today  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Bakes wha yuh think of Lucas today  ;D

Still not enough fuh me... offensively that is.  Defensively he more than put in a good shift and he showed a lot of effort.  I thought he did well going forward to try and compensate for the absence of Gerrard.  But his touch was inconsistent... scuffing one early effort badly across rather than at goal.  There were at least two occasions when I shouted "shitsnake" at the screen but to take issue with his play today would be nit-picking.  Today was his best game since pre-season in my book.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 25, 2009, 09:16:03 PM
Bakes wha yuh think of Lucas today  ;D

Still not enough fuh me... offensively that is.  Defensively he more than put in a good shift and he showed a lot of effort.  I thought he did well going forward to try and compensate for the absence of Gerrard.  But his touch was inconsistent... scuffing one early effort badly across rather than at goal.  There were at least two occasions when I shouted "shitsnake" at the screen but to take issue with his play today would be nit-picking.  Today was his best game since pre-season in my book.

Don't know what Rafa sees in Lucas.  My biggest problem with the lad is his ill-timed fouls around the penalty box area.  That seems to be ongoing.  Wonder how good Aqualani is defensively.  From the match reviews after his reserve debut, he seems very lively and very creative going forward.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
Don't know what Rafa sees in Lucas.  My biggest problem with the lad is his ill-timed fouls around the penalty box area.  That seems to be ongoing.  Wonder how good Aqualani is defensively.  From the match reviews after his reserve debut, he seems very lively and very creative going forward.

His fouls and giveaways does drive me mad... Brazilian only in name, but he improving.  I just watched the second half again and I must say I was too harsh on him.  He really helped stifle the middle for us today and did well on the attacking end... as attested by his assist on Ngog's clincher.

I also didn't give Aurelio credit for keeping Liverpool honest with his set pieces... including the 20th minute free kick that brought out the best in Van Der Sar.  I also must say that upon second viewing Mascherano's red was deserved... high boot, late, dangerous tackle = yellow card.  Two yellows means an early shower.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: onlikecorn on October 25, 2009, 11:30:31 PM
allyuh expecting too much of lucas . .. he is no veteran . .. benitez see potential in him . . . he is only 22 yrs old. .. and he wouldnt learn unless he get a chance to play . . i thought he did well in such a big game. . . congrats to liverpool i was rootin fuh allyuh today and allyuh pull it off. . .

allyuh does play better without gerald and it showed today. Allyuh hustle the midfield well and utd didnt have an answer today.

is true when stevie g there they does depend on him a lil too much . . buh havin said that  . . de man rescue dem from real games before. . . cuz he could come up with a bullet out of nothing .. . they missin him i think . . thank god torres had come back for this match cuz if both of them was not there then it woulda be pressure. .


allyuh does play better without gerald and it showed today. Allyuh hustle the midfield well and utd didnt have an answer today.

 ??? Gerald?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REy9ZMY7LGY

 :rotfl:

and well thanks fuh dis . . yuh bring back memories. . hahahahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 26, 2009, 07:42:59 AM
rafa didn't cock it up

vidic deserve he yellow card he love them div backward and hold back ppl tackle

caragher deserved the card for the foul on owen

great great goal from torres made rio look amateurish at best

table getting close
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 26, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
Fernando Torres is a biscuit plus nine other things we learned from watching Liverpool v Man United (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Fernando-Torres-is-a-biscuit-plus-nine-other-things-we-learned-from-watching-Liverpool-v-Man-United-article200213.html)

6) Sir Fergie made a surprise early substitution, bringing on a beach ball for Dimitar Berbatov after eight minutes. OK, he didn't, but he might as well have done...

10) Nemanja Vidic must love playing against Liverpool. He might not win that often, but he always gets first crack at the hot water.


Priceless.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 26, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
Fernando Torres is a biscuit plus nine other things we learned from watching Liverpool v Man United (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Fernando-Torres-is-a-biscuit-plus-nine-other-things-we-learned-from-watching-Liverpool-v-Man-United-article200213.html)

6) Sir Fergie made a surprise early substitution, bringing on a beach ball for Dimitar Berbatov after eight minutes. OK, he didn't, but he might as well have done...

10) Nemanja Vidic must love playing against Liverpool. He might not win that often, but he always gets first crack at the hot water.


Priceless.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 26, 2009, 01:25:22 PM
I now watch the highlights of this game, ah keep saying Rio is clueless. Ifhe was from any other country he would not be at Man United. The guy has no 1v1 defensive technique. Useless. And well Vidic show his class....again. The twin towers, yeah right.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 26, 2009, 01:46:47 PM
I now watch the highlights of this game, ah keep saying Rio is clueless. Ifhe was from any other country he would not be at Man United. The guy has no 1v1 defensive technique. Useless. And well Vidic show his class....again. The twin towers, yeah right.
Ok so Rio has not been the same Rio since his injury and Vidic had a bad game, I have faith in Man.U back four. When tey are on their game, it's hard to score on em'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on October 26, 2009, 02:08:09 PM
I think the commentary overplayed Rio's shortcomings on Torres' goal.  The attack was coming forward at speed, and Torres made a deceptive run into the danger area (i.e. he put himself in the mix without over-commiting to the heart of the penalty box)- Rio had to stay somewhat central or he would have exposed the middle...Anything less than a perfect pass by Benayoun, and Rio would have been able to come across and force Torres to a wider angle from which to shoot...but at the speed at which Kuyt, Benayoun and Torres built that attack, and the precision of the ball into El Nino's stride....it was really tough to defend...and it real hard to get yuh body in front of a 6ft plus galloping Torres when he has his eyes on goal...Rio put in his best effort, but yuh can't really fault him for that goal- it was well created and well taken. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 27, 2009, 10:58:57 AM
Obertan set for Utd debut
French winger to be given his head by Sir Alex
Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Gabriel Obertan will make his Manchester United debut at Barnsley on Tuesday night.

The Premier League champions travel to Oakwell for a Carling Cup clash, live on Sky Sports 2, determined to put Sunday's defeat to Liverpool behind them.

While a number of United's senior stars will be rested for a tough trip to Yorkshire, the likes of Obertan and other fringe players will be desperate to impress.

French winger Obertan, 20, has been a frustrated spectator since moving to Old Trafford in the summer from Bordeaux, sidelined as he has been by a spine injury.

However, after coming through three reserve team games unscathed, he is all set to make his Red Devils bow.

"He will play tomorrow against Barnsley, it is a good start for him," said Ferguson.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5654487,00.html

Possible link - http://www.atdhe.net/10117/watch-barnsley-fc-vs-manchester-united
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 28, 2009, 09:39:37 AM
The ref doin real crap in this game.

both sides feel hard done by. But it even, so I guess they can't say they have been disadvantaged so far.

Man U central defense looking real shaky.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 28, 2009, 09:45:37 AM
This game go have a fight
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 28, 2009, 09:51:49 AM
1-1 HT

Rooney pen was fully deserved..Michael Brown made definite contact and at that pace, if Wazza had stayed up I would have been surprised

Portsmouth pen decision was shocking... If that's a penalty then Football is becoming a girl's game

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: warmonga on November 28, 2009, 09:54:56 AM
I teking on dat game right now some shitty calls , but I going wid portsmouth . man u have a bunch of cry babies.
war
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 28, 2009, 10:08:48 AM
Football is becoming a girl's game

That is why allyuh crying so much?

I think both were weak penalties. Both were fouls, so both were penalties.


look yuh man ent fall down this time.

and look a goal.

2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 28, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
Another weak penalty...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 28, 2009, 11:18:03 AM
Another weak penalty...

Kuszack made a nice 90' save off a sweet Utaka attempt.  Utaka played well in his 5 mins... but Boateng is the man for Portsmouth.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 28, 2009, 11:44:46 AM
So seeing that Giggs was on he 100th goal, why did Rooney not let him have the first or 2nd PK?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 28, 2009, 12:31:25 PM
So seeing that Giggs was on he 100th goal, why did Rooney not let him have the first or 2nd PK?

  Because, after talking so big about how he will score all the goals that cronaldo took to Spain wit 'im....he have to pad his stats to support his claim.......and that include taking all the penalties like cronaldo used to do to pad he stats, too.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 12, 2009, 04:19:56 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 12, 2009, 06:04:42 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on December 12, 2009, 06:13:30 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 12, 2009, 06:54:54 PM
fack off manu
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on December 12, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on December 12, 2009, 07:18:47 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 12, 2009, 10:11:21 PM
We had our chances and did not take them. Villa came with a good plan and it worked. Congrats to all the Villa fans!!!. I am not worried by the results of today's game. Chelsea dropped points today again and we are only 3 points behind. The African nation's cup is right around the corner, hope Chelsea have a back up plan.

PS. For all those that think Villa or Tottenham finishing in the top 4...think again!!! It's gonna be the same top 4 as last year with either Chelsea or Man.U being the champions.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 12, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
We had our chances and did not take them. Villa came with a good plan and it worked. Congrats to all the Villa fans!!!. I am not worried by the results of today's game. Chelsea dropped points today again and we are only 3 points behind. The African nation's cup is right around the corner, hope Chelsea have a back up plan.

PS. For all those that think Villa or Tottenham finishing in the top 4...think again!!! It's gonna be the same top 4 as last year with either Chelsea or Man.U being the champions.

Man, y'all did not have a plan in that game. Villa had y'all defending for y'all life. I was watching on ESPND and they was oing on about Man United struggling.

We did not drop points, cause you all piked it up and handed it back to us. Thank y'all very much.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2009, 12:59:45 AM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 13, 2009, 10:07:44 AM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:

GLORY GLORY.........no wait ???     :P :devil: :devil: 8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dwn on December 13, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
Just had to mention that Rooney's first touch on the chance where he hit the bar was amazing!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on December 13, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:
nonsense man :D
we go have the AGM of MUHAHA there just for spite :devil: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2009, 09:26:57 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:
nonsense man :D
we go have the AGM of MUHAHA there just for spite :devil: :rotfl:


  AGM?!  Who is dat?!  Ah tawt yuh was de Treasurer?  Now yuh markin' members' whereabouts like yuh is de secretree.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on December 13, 2009, 10:16:01 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:
nonsense man :D
we go have the AGM of MUHAHA there just for spite :devil: :rotfl:


  AGM?!  Who is dat?!  Ah tawt yuh was de Treasurer?  Now yuh markin' members' whereabouts like yuh is de secretree.....
hear nuh
as the "member at large" I suspect the general members want some order in de organisation
MUHAHA has to legitimise itself ;)
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 14, 2009, 11:55:40 PM
Just found this on the 4th page languishing halfway down. Man United eh playe/ing this weekend or what.
 :whistling: :whistling:
:rotfl:
dem man-u waggonist on holidays   :devil:
MU HA HA  :devil:

Ah wonder how de Trotters lime went today?  8)
dem mus be have the Trots (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20trots) :D

Villa for the Treble  :rotfl:
"Aston Villa ended a 26-year wait to beat Manchester United in the league at Old Trafford as they moved up to third place :o in the Premier League."

   :rotfl: allyuh rel flickin' idle oui!  i makin SURE to steer clear from trotters anytime I go T&T! :rotfl:
nonsense man :D
we go have the AGM of MUHAHA there just for spite :devil: :rotfl:


  AGM?!  Who is dat?!  Ah tawt yuh was de Treasurer?  Now yuh markin' members' whereabouts like yuh is de secretree.....
hear nuh
as the "member at large" I suspect the general members want some order in de organisation
MUHAHA has to legitimise itself ;)
 :rotfl:

  We will need to draw up an official charter but I know we had established many, many moons ago, what the structure of our organization is......too many postings ago for me to pull up but I remember that I filled damned near every position from CEO to union rep to mail room messenger to housekeeping.  Is only Treasurer and Secretary up fuh grabs and last I remember, was a fight between you and Toppa.  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on December 15, 2009, 01:47:15 PM
Wolves named a 2nd X1 side to play at Old Trafford.....they are about to get blown the f**k out  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on December 15, 2009, 01:58:13 PM
good, i hope rooney score 8...i have him as my captain  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on December 15, 2009, 06:04:49 PM
If I was a paying customer, I would be vex. I ent pay good money to go in the cold and watch some 2nd string team of scrubs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 19, 2009, 10:38:12 AM
Very poor!!!  :-[ Zam playing preety good lately.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: big dawg on December 19, 2009, 10:49:41 AM
How come the regulars stop posting here for the past couple manu games...everybody gorn trotters?


 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 19, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
How come the regulars stop posting here for the past couple manu games...everybody gorn trotters?


 :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ;D alyuh not nice ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on December 19, 2009, 10:55:24 AM
sour lime :devil:


sunderland geh tief also ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 19, 2009, 11:04:21 AM
fack orf manu
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 19, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
baaahahaahahahahaahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaa     :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 19, 2009, 11:43:08 AM
GLORY GLORY!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 19, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Do go no way stay right up here.

 :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on December 19, 2009, 09:49:35 PM
Big big side like Fulham yes....

Boxing Day....Chelsea vs Fulham....watch and learn  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on December 23, 2009, 04:11:53 PM
Very poor!!!  :-[ Zam playing preety good lately.

F#@k Zamora!!!  :devil:  :rotfl:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 23, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
Diouf obtains work permit
Senegalese striker free to join up with United in January


Mame Biram Diouf has been cleared to join up with Manchester United in January after being granted a work permit.

The 22-year-old signed for the champions in July but remained at Norwegian side Molde on a loan basis.

The striker has now been given the green light to fully complete his switch to Old Trafford but will not be available for the FA Cup clash against Leeds on January 3rd.

Red Devils boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been impressed with the frontman in training and, despite rumours that Diouf will be immediately loaned out in January, is expecting big things from the Senegalese international.

"If you're talking about value then you can look at our young boy Diouf," he said earlier in the month.

"He's been training with us and is looking very exciting.

"That's the kind of situation we're good at - finding young players who can develop at the club and at 22 years of age he's looking very good."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5795103,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on December 30, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
The streford end reach quite on the 2nd page? Wha really going on?

Anyway we should be thankful that Scotty wasn't part of this debacle.

Like Wigan and Portsmouth was competing to see who could concede the most. Only thing is Portsmouth does look sorry 100% of the time and Wigan only 66%
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 30, 2009, 03:57:37 PM
Good way to end the year, looking forward to the remaining matches next year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 30, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
Good stuff... we've been utter shite recently...glad we played well today

Rooney is a genius.... Valencia looked good today too... Berba was silky as ever

Let's push on and hopefully Fergie can keep a constant 11 on the pitch for a string of games

today was the 99th different 11 in a row...that is crazy


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 30, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
Good stuff... we've been utter shite recently...glad we played well today

Rooney is a genius.... Valencia looked good today too... Berba was silky as ever

Let's push on and hopefully Fergie can keep a constant 11 on the pitch for a string of games

today was the 99th different 11 in a row...that is crazy



Nice to see yuh still around posting, I was wondering where all the Man.U fans went when we was not doing so good. I was the only one posting, even when we lose.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 31, 2009, 07:17:11 AM
Let's not start the self praising yet... it's Wigan we played...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 03, 2010, 08:16:55 AM
Like WTF MAN.... we down to Leeds....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 03, 2010, 08:50:10 AM
5 minutes of extra time...  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 03, 2010, 08:54:11 AM
since small promoting this Trot thing we constantly getting we tail buss... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 03, 2010, 08:56:01 AM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 03, 2010, 09:23:32 AM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on January 03, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
Ah boy 2010 looking like a good year.

Imagine a sub name Snodgrass rock they post with a freekick. Had Beckford not been unlucky it woulda be 2-0 in the 80th.

The Theater of Dreams Jumbie has been sileced...even with a extra 5 minutes to play heself.

muahahahahahahhahahaha :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 03, 2010, 11:27:17 AM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:

atleast u goin' dong wit u ship like ah brave soldier, way d ress dem, dey sleepin.................DHW and co where alyuh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 03, 2010, 12:10:54 PM
Big, big team like Leeds yes......has any side ever been raped by a Division One side and won the Premiership in the same season?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 03, 2010, 03:17:05 PM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:

atleast u goin' dong wit u ship like ah brave soldier, way d ress dem, dey sleepin.................DHW and co where alyuh
I know you eh call my name, but I was sleeping for real lol. I wish we could win everything, but that ain't happening this season or atleast until we buy some quality players. I blame the glazers!!! We in all this F@*king debt and can't buy nobody.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 03, 2010, 03:33:11 PM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:

atleast u goin' dong wit u ship like ah brave soldier, way d ress dem, dey sleepin.................DHW and co where alyuh
I know you eh call my name, but I was sleeping for real lol. I wish we could win everything, but that ain't happening this season or atleast until we buy some quality players. I blame the glazers!!! We in all this F@*king debt and can't buy nobody.

I hear u bro, but until dat time :devil: :angel: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 03, 2010, 08:50:06 PM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:

atleast u goin' dong wit u ship like ah brave soldier, way d ress dem, dey sleepin.................DHW and co where alyuh

Ah have to take it like a man.... we were on top I use dish blows.... now ah have to take stick for the shyte we playing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 03, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
I normally don't do this, but Leeds?

Bwahahahahahhahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Nah, allyuh not missing C. Ronaldo atall...

Fack him and Tevez.... we have OWEN... :devil:

atleast u goin' dong wit u ship like ah brave soldier, way d ress dem, dey sleepin.................DHW and co where alyuh

Ah have to take it like a man.... we were on top I use dish blows.... now ah have to take stick for the shyte we playing.

true...........true.............as ah say brave soldier :beermug:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 03, 2010, 10:57:11 PM
 :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 03, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
:rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on January 04, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
hmm...sad display....ask for Rooney...like he was purposely trying to buss somebody head in the stands....pure overbars..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 05, 2010, 07:23:15 PM
since small promoting this Trot thing we constantly getting we tail buss... :beermug:



 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 09, 2010, 01:24:09 PM
SIX MINUTES EXTRA TIME?? WTF??

In spite of the "Sir Alex" factor at de end there, Man U fail to go top. Lucky to hold on for a point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 09, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
SIX MINUTES EXTRA TIME?? WTF??

I watch the whole second half, and the only real delay was the lil argument over the man utd goal. One minute at most..

I didnt see any injuries. I have no clue where the ref find 6 mins injury time from.

i was praying Birmingham would bore them late in injury time.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 09, 2010, 01:34:54 PM
Wow, we drew with the mighty birmingham...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: big dawg on January 09, 2010, 02:08:57 PM
SIX MINUTES EXTRA TIME?? WTF??

I watch the whole second half, and the only real delay was the lil argument over the man utd goal. One minute at most..

I didnt see any injuries. I have no clue where the ref find 6 mins injury time from.

i was praying Birmingham would bore them late in injury time.




I have long accepted the fact that when Man U playing.. its ALWAYS

90 + Extra Time + Fergie Time

hence, it does not surprise be to see 6+ minutes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 09, 2010, 03:10:52 PM
thank you Birmingham  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2010, 07:37:45 PM
thank you Birmingham  :devil:
For what? it ain't like you all took care of Everton.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 10, 2010, 08:01:27 PM
thank you Birmingham  :devil:
For what? it ain't like you all took care of Everton.
you didnt gain any ground on us

plus how many games this season manu get points from an own goal? arsenal is one and birmingham i sure it have 3, 4 5 moreand it only half way through the season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 11, 2010, 04:14:54 AM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 11, 2010, 05:21:05 AM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

some men doh have d belly for d battle when faced with d harsh cold of d russian front.............. but den I'sa chelsea fan an' I doh tink I ever post in dat thread, so maybe dey busy........................ might be stakin out trotters, lookin foh small mag.........man done tink he blight your team wit d trotters match day wuk :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 11, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???
Doh fraid to call names.....When we play shit, I does be on here saying so and when we play good, I am on here tryna defend our team from the Man.U bashers because win or lose we does get hated on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on January 11, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???
Doh fraid to call names.....When we play shit, I does be on here saying so and when we play good, I am on here tryna defend our team from the Man.U bashers because win or lose we does get hated on.

Doh worry wid dem, for all the bashing Man U 1 point from tops and everybody say we have a sh*tty team......All talk...Ah wah hear dem when de african cup done.

MAN U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :beermug: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 11, 2010, 01:53:02 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 11, 2010, 03:45:30 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...


Doh try that. When allyuh winning yuh insufferable, now allyuh in 2nd place and yuh quiet? Maintain yuh level of boorishness. Anybody could talk smack when hey winning, the real ole talk does start when you losing. Every year 19 teams doh win the EPL. Write yuh chants,  big up yuh squad. it still have 1/2 the season to go.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 11, 2010, 03:46:49 PM
In other news...

United confirm plan to raise £500m through bonds
By Harry Harris and Soccernet staff
January 11, 2010
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=723752&sec=england&cc=5901

Manchester United confirmed on Monday they will look to raise £500 million through bonds to restructure their debts.

The Premier League champions have been struggling under interest payments due on the debts which the Glazers ran up when borrowing in order to purchase the club. In the year up to June 30, 2009, they had to pay out £41.9 million in interest payments.

Although the club did record a pre-tax profit of £48.2 million, that figure includes the £80 million raised from the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid. Without the sale of Ronaldo, the Red Devils would have been reporting a loss of £31.8 million. Turnover was up in the financial year, from £80.4 million in 2008 to £91.3 million.

The bond will be used to repay the "senior secured notes". It was thought that the Glazers would be looking to finance the £175 million worth of payment-in-kind notes that are currently attracting 14.25% interest. However, this is considered personal debt and will not be refinanced through bonds.

"Manchester United today announced that it will be seeking to raise approximately £500 million aggregate principal amount from an offering of senior secured notes due 2017,'' said a United statement. "The notes, whose proceeds will be used to refinance existing debt secured against the club, will be issued by MU Finance plc.''

But the Glazers will not be selling the club and intend to use the money saved from restructuring the debt to ensure significant money is available to Sir Alex Ferguson to spend in the transfer market.

ESPN Soccernet has been assured that the bond is not a prelude to a sale or in any way a manouvre to attract a buyer. The bond should attract institutions and City investors which will enable the club to repay at a stable and affordable rate of interest.

However, ESPNsoccernet has been informed by City experts, that this is by no means an attempt to find a new owner, or to sell the club, that is definitely not on the agenda.

Despite the world being in recession, Manchester United are the most profitable club in the world at a time when clubs like Manchester City and Chelsea are recording massive losses. But fans remain concerned about the bottom line without the Ronaldo cash.

The Glazers message is clear - none of the clubs figures, nor their desire to reshape their loans of £509 million impacts on manager Sir Alex Fergusons ability to reinvest in the transfer market So far Sir Alex has stated it is because he cannot find the players of the right quality and price, rather than it being a question of not having the money.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 11, 2010, 04:13:57 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...


so yuh mean you is a fair weather poster then, is only glory glory when the sun shining?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 11, 2010, 04:16:25 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...


so yuh mean you is a fair weather poster then, is only glory glory when the sun shining?


Who wants to post after your team drops points?

Only plastics...

If I post my true feelings after a game it wouldn't be nice..

Like yall missing me... Banter isnt the same without me right?

Study your own team and I'll decide when to post or not...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2010, 06:14:55 PM

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...


Doh try that. When allyuh winning yuh insufferable, now allyuh in 2nd place and yuh quiet? Maintain yuh level of boorishness. Anybody could talk smack when hey winning, the real ole talk does start when you losing. Every year 19 teams doh win the EPL. Write yuh chants,  big up yuh squad. it still have 1/2 the season to go.

Doh study he... all's quiet on the Red Devil front so he short on material.

And no Small Mag... we eh missing yuh, if I had to speak for everyone I'd say in fact we'd appreciate if you stuck to this current level of banter  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 11, 2010, 09:37:11 PM
what is 'banter' and which part in trini dey does talk dat language?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 11, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl:
look who givin advice about cussin
lawd  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
THIS is de bess place on the internet
I ent need none ah dem other sites....not ah damn one
just this one
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl:
look who givin advice about cussin
lawd  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
THIS is de bess place on the internet
I ent need none ah dem other sites....not ah damn one
just this one

In yuh haste tuh ejaculate all over yuhself in glee yuh apparently fuhget to wipe de break from yuh eye... where did anyone give Small Mag "advice about cussin"?  I find your passive aggression amusing though, as I said, you lack the courage to address me directly so yuh sticking tuh yuh forte of throwing word, market woman that you are.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 11, 2010, 11:42:03 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl:
look who givin advice about cussin
lawd  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
THIS is de bess place on the internet
I ent need none ah dem other sites....not ah damn one
just this one

In yuh haste tuh ejaculate all over yuhself in glee yuh apparently fuhget to wipe de break from yuh eye... where did anyone give Small Mag "advice about cussin"?  I find your passive aggression amusing though, as I said, you lack the courage to address me directly so yuh sticking tuh yuh forte of throwing word, market woman that you are.
here Hold on to this
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=living+rent+free

Thanks eh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
here Hold on to this
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=living+rent+free

Thanks eh

I haven't the faintest clue what you're babbling about... but I'm sure in your special world you're making a lot of sense.  Maybe you should actually read the definition you're offering before you posit it so triumphantly in the thread.  Then again, original thought was never your strong suit so directing you to read anything is a waste of time... you probably just find it sound nice and post it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 12, 2010, 12:07:19 AM
here Hold on to this
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=living+rent+free

Thanks eh

I haven't the faintest clue what you're babbling about... but I'm sure in your special world you're making a lot of sense.  Maybe you should actually read the definition you're offering before you posit it so triumpha
ntly in the thread.  Then again, original thought was never your strong suit so directing you to read anything is a waste of time... you probably just find it sound nice and post it.
yeah when you wake up in the middle of the night and all you can think of is having me live rent free in your head you will certainly know what i am taklking about

you does talk in circles so much you does make a carousel think that it is standing still
blah balh blah my boy
you and ya banter  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Obama would be soooo proud of your choice of expletives.....dont ya think
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
yeah when you wake up in the middle of the night and all you can think of is having me live rent free in your head you will certainly know what i am taklking about

you does talk in circles so much you does make a carousel think that it is standing still
blah balh blah my boy
you and ya banter  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Obama would be soooo proud of your choice of expletives.....dont ya think

I'm not sure what kinda homosexual fantasies dem priest and dem plant in yuh head when dey was ass-raping you as a yute... but sorry I doh wake up thinking about next man in de middle ah de night.

I wouldn't even bother making sense of that Obama comment.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 12, 2010, 07:46:29 AM
yeah when you wake up in the middle of the night and all you can think of is having me live rent free in your head you will certainly know what i am taklking about

you does talk in circles so much you does make a carousel think that it is standing still
blah balh blah my boy
you and ya banter  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Obama would be soooo proud of your choice of expletives.....dont ya think

I'm not sure what kinda homosexual fantasies dem priest and dem plant in yuh head when dey was ass-raping you as a yute... but sorry I doh wake up thinking about next man in de middle ah de night.

I wouldn't even bother making sense of that Obama comment.
you are one very sad Human being as You use this same method in about 99% of your posts
99 %  man  sad sad sad
start using a different way to insult people nuh man
The people on here who are cognizant of the situation will definitely agree with me and I would consider it cruel and unusual punishment to ask those who dont know to check out your past posts
You and your LITTLE friends, who keep egging you on, are the only saddests here
sad little boy

you should watch a great movie
"The great debaters"
would you believe, NOT ONE reference to male body parts that you feel SO COMFORTABLE using
you just an Internet Gang banger, acting just like them gangbangers back home,.....trying to intimidate as many people as you can... ::) ::)
just go home little boy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 12, 2010, 03:58:47 PM
I truly flecking amazed... it have man on this site quick to call man waggaonist... den follow up with Glory Glory... Manu have de bite of a pussy cat and you eh hearing ah "peep" from dem... Whey all yuh...??? Oh I forgot...


Glory Glory.. ???

Don't let my silence fool you...

I just don't see the need to comment when we get a bad result... I don't need to vent on a public forum to ease the embarrassment of dropping points

If posting on a forum makes a fan then something is wrong

Don't ever question my loyalty... If you feel to respond to banter that's you...


so yuh mean you is a fair weather poster then, is only glory glory when the sun shining?


Who wants to post after your team drops points?

Only plastics...

If I post my true feelings after a game it wouldn't be nice..

Like yall missing me... Banter isnt the same without me right?

Study your own team and I'll decide when to post or not...

Next time your teams earns a point and you decide to pass through, please change the name of the thread to Temporary Home of the Champions  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on January 16, 2010, 11:20:54 AM
OK game today...3 more points....Man U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRR :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 18, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
THE Glazer family have gone cap in hand to Manchester United's players - effectively asking them for a multi-million pound loan!

United stars were stunned by the handout request when they arrived back last week from their Qatar training camp.

Players were handed a prospectus, as owner Malcolm Glazer attempts to raise a staggering £500million through a bond issue to refinance huge debts.

And SunSport understands even the lower paid Old Trafford staff have been offered the 'opportunity' to invest in the club by the American owners.

A United insider said: "The players don't know what to make of it, really.

"Most are bemused that the people who pay their wages are basically trying to find out if they can have some back.

"A few of the lads know a good investment when they see one, but not too many seem prepared to put their money where their mouths are!"

United are believed to be offering investors an annual return of seven per cent on the bonds, which start at £50,000 a block.

But City experts say returns are dependent on continued success on the field in the years ahead.

The insider added: "There have been people working at Old Trafford for many years, on low salaries, worried about their futures.

"Yet now they are being offered the chance to stretch themselves even further. It's a joke!"

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2813956/Glazers-SOS-to-Man-Utd-stars.html#ixzz0d1bvdNET
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 18, 2010, 09:48:07 PM
"A few of the lads know a good investment when they see one, but not too many seem prepared to put their money where their mouths are!"
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on January 18, 2010, 11:34:40 PM
Or hor..

So DIS is wha de football matches at Trotters REALLY about!

A fund raiser fuh Manure!!  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Preacher on January 19, 2010, 12:20:57 AM
Some how the world keeps getting stranger and stranger.   :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on January 19, 2010, 01:53:33 AM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 19, 2010, 06:14:58 AM
Glazers look like dey pullin ah Standford......

Allyuh tink it ez....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 19, 2010, 07:24:47 AM
The Sun.... lol nuff said

Only believe The Guardian,The Times and any official sports websites such as BBC, Skysports and Manutd.com

GunnerStunner...you know you cant disagree with that....

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on January 19, 2010, 09:16:56 AM
Small Mag you have to be concerned about the current situation though. 

The amount of debt your team is carrying is unreal and there isn't much you can do to increase your revenue stream.  Success on the field is pretty much as good as it gets and you've maximized your brand around the world.  So what's left?

ManU is a crisis or two away from doing a Leeds unless some billionaire sheik takes over the club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 19, 2010, 10:00:35 AM
The article from the Sun is rubbish...misleading at best. It's the Sun.
A more sober and worrying) article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/19/manchester-united-finance-the-glazers

Glazers could take £130m out of Manchester United next year

• Small print in bond offer reveals shock provisions
• Owners able to get cut of money from player sales


The Glazer family, who own Manchester United, can take almost £130m cash out of the club next year alone if enough lenders sign up for the bond they have launched to borrow £500m for United.

Nestling in the small print of the 322-page bond prospectus are provisions allowing the Glazers to take £70m out of the club's cash reserves, which includes the money they have received from selling players such as Cristiano Ronaldo. The document also reserves for the Glazers the legal right to pay £25m out of the club in a dividend, and half of what is termed "consolidated net income". This is effectively the club's cash profits, which based on the most recent accounts would have meant £23m being paid out last year.

The bond's terms also note that the Glazers will have the right for £6m a year to be paid to companies they own "for administration and management services", and a further £3m "in respect of services provided by directors, officers or employees" of companies the Glazers use to hold their shares in United.

That money, added to the £70m and £25m one-off payments, plus the half of United's cash profit they can take out each year (equating to £23m last year), add up to £127m next year alone.

That huge figure is in addition to the straightforward payment of interest (yield) on the £500m the club will have borrowed via the bond, which at a mooted 9%, will be £45m. That will bring the total taken out of United to service the Glazers' borrowings, which were loaded on to the club after the family bought the club in 2005, to £172m next year alone.

It has become increasingly clear since the prospectus was launched last week that its principal purpose is to allow the Glazers to take cash out of United to reduce the amounts they owe in "payments in kind" to hedge funds, which are running at a punitive £14.25% interest. Standing at £175m in the year to 30 June, 2008, the "payments" accrued £25m interest in the year to 30 June, 2009, and so stand now at over £200m. That debt is secured on the United shares the Glazer family own, and it is clear their financial priority is to use United's giant turnover and profits to pay down that debt before the interest "rolls up" dramatically.

A calculation of the total cash which the bond would entail being paid out of United in dividend payments, the yield from the bond, management fees and the possible requirement for the club to lease the Carrington training ground, is more than £500m between next year and the maturity of the bond in 2017.

If the bond issue is fully taken up by lenders, it will mean that since the Glazer family bought United in May 2005 for £810m – £540m of it borrowed from banks and hedge funds – their takeover will have already cost United £340m in cash. That comprises £220m in bank interest plus "early-repayment premiums" made when the borrowings were first refinanced in August 2006. A further £120m will have been incurred in fees paid to bankers, lawyers and other professionals – the fees for this bond issue are noted as £15m – plus £35m incurred by the club's interest rate hedging arrangements.

On top of that, the "payments" have incurred interest payable of around £124m since the Glazers first borrowed the money to buy United.

A Glazer family spokesman, who also speaks for United on financial matters, declined to comment.

Nick Towle, chair of the Manchester United Supporters' Trust, said: "It is a shocking picture. These are immense amounts of money being leaked out of United to pay banks, lawyers, the Glazers themselves and interest, to pay for a takeover none of the supporters, or the United board itself, wanted.

"United's success and profits could have been used to keep ticket prices affordable or invest in the team but instead we see this heartbreaking waste, just because one family ultimately hopes to make a profit from the club."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 19, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
The Sun.... lol nuff said

Only believe The Guardian,The Times and any official sports websites such as BBC, Skysports and Manutd.com

GunnerStunner...you know you cant disagree with that....


COOL BUT CHECK OUT THE GUARDIAN FOOTBALL WORLD
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/19/manchester-united-finance-the-glazers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/19/manchester-united-finance-the-glazers)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jan/13/manchester-united-finances-glazer-family (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jan/13/manchester-united-finances-glazer-family)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 19, 2010, 12:00:51 PM
Would the "rent boys" label be applicable here or "lease boys" be more accurate."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 19, 2010, 01:54:08 PM
Would the "rent boys" label be applicable here or "lease boys" be more accurate."

Lease Boys... Glory Glory...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 19, 2010, 04:01:16 PM
We should be able to take care of Man.C at home.....not worried one bit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 19, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
FERGIE, FERGIE SIGN HIM UP!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 19, 2010, 04:06:02 PM
2 shit goals... Rafael foul Bellamy outside the box... and then the ref saw a deflection off Rafael to allow City to score from the resulting corner

Given real save.... great game..excitement all around

Cant wait for the second leg....Revenge will be sweet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 19, 2010, 04:40:38 PM
Welcome to the Blue side of Manchester.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 19, 2010, 04:51:05 PM
(http://www.ak47online.com/wp-content/gallery/manchester/1280x1024_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 19, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Tevez is God in Manchester......

Fergie wha yuh wuz tinking letting he goe boy... :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 19, 2010, 08:39:11 PM
Tevez is God in Manchester......

Fergie wha yuh wuz tinking letting he goe boy... :o

He talked too much...said stupid things in interviews when in Argentina... when we made an offer which was reportedly upwards of 100k a week he rejected it and went to City for more money

Then after he left he continued to talk and disrespect the gaffer and the United board but remained respectful to the fans and hoped they would understand why he went City....United fans immediately hated him when he crossed the dotted line and his continuous disrespect to Fergie after the transfer saga was the last line... Then after his antics today he is surely to be hated even more

Yes he was good at United, yes his work rate was awesome but sometimes you have to let players go... He is not a loyal man and he could kindly f**k off in light blue

Who would have thought in May, United fans would be cool with Ronaldo and hate Tevez ... Why? Because Ronaldo praises United everytime in an interview, the Argie prick disrespects us

Who’s that twat from Argentina,
Who’s that money grabbing whore,
Carlos Tevez is his name
And he’s got no f**king brain,
And he wont be winning trophies anymore.

Official Tevez chant sung at Old Trafford.... A fan favourite
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 19, 2010, 09:15:02 PM
Tevez is God in Manchester......

Fergie wha yuh wuz tinking letting he goe boy... :o

He talked too much...said stupid things in interviews when in Argentina... when we made an offer which was reportedly upwards of 100k a week he rejected it and went to City for more money

Then after he left he continued to talk and disrespect the gaffer and the United board but remained respectful to the fans and hoped they would understand why he went City....United fans immediately hated him when he crossed the dotted line and his continuous disrespect to Fergie after the transfer saga was the last line... Then after his antics today he is surely to be hated even more

Yes he was good at United, yes his work rate was awesome but sometimes you have to let players go... He is not a loyal man and he could kindly f**k off in light blue

Who would have thought in May, United fans would be cool with Ronaldo and hate Tevez ... Why? Because Ronaldo praises United everytime in an interview, the Argie prick disrespects us

Who’s that twat from Argentina,
Who’s that money grabbing whore,
Carlos Tevez is his name
And he’s got no f**king brain,
And he wont be winning trophies anymore.

Official Tevez chant sung at Old Trafford.... A fan favourite

They forget he not playing at Old Trafford or what, cause them eh winning no trophies either.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 20, 2010, 05:52:12 AM
Tevez is God in Manchester......

Fergie wha yuh wuz tinking letting he goe boy... :o

He talked too much...said stupid things in interviews when in Argentina... when we made an offer which was reportedly upwards of 100k a week he rejected it and went to City for more money

Then after he left he continued to talk and disrespect the gaffer and the United board but remained respectful to the fans and hoped they would understand why he went City....United fans immediately hated him when he crossed the dotted line and his continuous disrespect to Fergie after the transfer saga was the last line... Then after his antics today he is surely to be hated even more

Yes he was good at United, yes his work rate was awesome but sometimes you have to let players go... He is not a loyal man and he could kindly f**k off in light blue

Who would have thought in May, United fans would be cool with Ronaldo and hate Tevez ... Why? Because Ronaldo praises United everytime in an interview, the Argie prick disrespects us

Who’s that twat from Argentina,
Who’s that money grabbing whore,
Carlos Tevez is his name
And he’s got no f**king brain,
And he wont be winning trophies anymore.

Official Tevez chant sung at Old Trafford.... A fan favourite

They forget he not playing at Old Trafford or what, cause them eh winning no trophies either.
my problem with tevez, he's argentinian
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 20, 2010, 05:54:51 AM
Would the "rent boys" label be applicable here or "lease boys" be more accurate."

or the "please" boys  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 21, 2010, 05:17:50 PM
New Boy Diouf Bags 50 minute Hattrick  :beermug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KilM5rDGtGI

Anyone else see a resemblance to 50 cent lol?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2010, 06:39:14 PM

Success for Manchester United as Glazers raise £504m from bond issue

• No shortage of investors for MU finance bond
• Seven-year scheme gives owners breathing space


The Glazer family's controversial bond issue has been completed. Photograph: Tom Jenkins

Manchester United today successfully completed their controversial refinancing as expected, raising £504m that will be partly used to repay the onerous hedge fund loans taken out by the Glazer family to buy the club.

It is understood that the bond issue, which has provoked a furious backlash from some fans as it laid bare a business model that has saddled the club and their owners with debts of £716.6m, was twice over-subscribed.

The success of the MU Finance bond issue, combined with the fact that the interest (yield) that must be paid on it was within the hoped for range of the five banks that managed it, suggests that the club's argument that they could continue to grow revenues, invest in the squad and meet debt repayments was accepted by investors.

The Manchester United chief executive, David Gill, has over the past fortnight led a global roadshow across Asia, Europe and the US to sell the idea to investors, arguing that the club's iconic brand and global commercial potential made them a safe bet despite the large debt they are carrying.

While some traditional funds were unable to touch the bond because it was unrated, and some fund managers argued the club's debt made it too risky at the price, the issue was still oversubscribed by a factor of two.

The money has been raised in two tranches – £250m at 8.75% and $425m at 8.375%. It will be used to pay off the £509.5m that United owe to four banks at an interest rate of just over 5%.

The seven-year scheme will give the Glazers further breathing space to pay back the money they loaned to buy Manchester United and, crucially, allow them to use money from the club's cash flow to service their high interest £202m "payment in kind" debt that has been secured on their shareholding in it. The original loans had already reached £202m and were rolling up at 14.25% a year, a rate due to increase to 16.25% this summer.

But, although the Glazers will now be able to reduce their own onerous hedge fund loans, it leaves the club carrying a debt that must be repaid at a higher interest rate over a longer term.

The small print of the 322-page bond prospectus circulated to shareholders last week provided for the Glazers to channel up to £127m, including a one-off payment of £70m out of money raised from matchday income, TV contracts, sponsorship deals and transfer fees, to their parent company in the first year.

Supporters were also alarmed at provisions that will allow the Glazers' parent company to take control of the Carrington training ground and sell it on a lease-back basis as well as the fact that much of the revenue raised by the club was being used to service debt. Accounts for the Glazers' parent company show that, even allowing for a profit of £80.7m on player transfers, the parent company made a profit of only £6.4m due to the need to service debts.

The details of the bond issue have angered fans' groups who say it proves the extent to which the Glazers have taken money out of a profitable club simply to pay for their purchase. Six family members have taken £10m in loans at preferential rates and the bond issue makes provision for £9m a year in fees and management costs.

Some fund managers had said a double-digit return would have been more in keeping with the risk profile but it is believed the club's strong brand, a buoyant market for new issues and the fact that some of the hedge funds involved had already invested in the club's debt helped the Glazers and Manchester United executives get the scheme away.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/22/manchester-united-glazer-bond-scheme-success
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Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2010, 06:40:08 PM

Rio Ferdinand to return for Manchester United against Hull

• This is the time to bring him back, says Sir Alex Ferguson
• Defender to play again after three-month lay-off

Rio Ferdinand has not played for three months but is ready to make his comeback this weekend, according to Sir Alex Ferguson. Photograph: John Peters/Man Utd via Getty Images

Rio Ferdinand will play for Manchester United tomorrow against Hull City in his first game since October.

In addition to missing three months' worth of domestic action, Ferdinand also sat out England's friendly with Brazil.

However his manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, now feels the moment is right to bring the defender back into action.

"This is the time to bring him back," said the United manager. "We have gone through the whole situation with him in terms of enough training and endurance work. It is a big boost because the defence has been the weakest part of our game this season.

"At various times we have lost Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Edwin van der Sar, John O'Shea. It has been a rough time, so to get them back can only be good for us."

O'Shea was yesterday ruled out for the rest of the season while Ferguson confirmed today that Vidic was still a fortnight away from recovering from a calf complaint. That would at least put him in contention to face Milan in the last 16 of the Champions League.

United are one point behind Chelsea and Arsenal at the top of the league, having played one more game than Carlo Ancelotti's side.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/22/rio-ferdinand-return-united
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 23, 2010, 10:58:31 AM
oh geed
4-0
all wayne rooney
what allyuh woulda do with out him?
well you guys on top now
what a season the epl is throwing up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 23, 2010, 10:59:38 AM
I saw my mate the other day,he said to me he's seen the white Pele,so I ask who is he, he goes by the name of Wayne Rooney ! Wayne Rooney! Wayne Rooney! He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney!

f**king legend....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 23, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
Ay look we chanting again!
Man U mus be win. They faced a tough challenge vs league leaders Hull City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Kayus on January 23, 2010, 01:36:10 PM
Ay look we chanting again!
Man U mus be win. They faced a tough challenge vs league leaders Hull City.

Well is a good thing man utd win, cuz i woulda hate to see wuh yuh woulda say if they lost.

 Top of the table
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on January 23, 2010, 01:54:42 PM
I read in this month's World Soccer that Sir Alex is interested in Luis Fabiano and it appears that Luis is receptive.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 26, 2010, 12:41:34 PM
Carlos Tevez centre stage in Manchester United v Manchester City part two

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/matt_dickinson/article7002416.ece



According to the Butterfly Effect, small, seemingly insignificant incidents can come to have a vast, unforeseen outcome; the flap of wings that ultimately causes a tornado.

Football now has its own parochial example. Gary Neville makes some sensible comments in a Maltese newspaper, The Times, and, before you know it, Manchester police are on riot alert, braced for mayhem at Old Trafford tomorrow night.

Carlos Tévez is in for a Welcome to Hell in the Carling Cup semi-final, second leg. United fans may even suspend their anti-Glazer protests to concentrate on the Argentine defector.

In Tévez’s world, he is the one with right on his side in this escalating feud: the man disrespected. It suits him to paint a picture of a footballer who would have died for United but, cast out, had no choice than to pack up his shooting boots and, like one of Clint Eastwood’s wandering gunslingers, head to the next town.

 

That is one side of the story, but an entirely self-serving one also peddled by Kia Joorabchian, his representative. Self-serving because it deflects from the fact that the move may have been inspired by other motives, such as the pot of gold on the other side of Manchester.

That is not a moral judgment. Tévez would not be the first person to grab a large pay rise and his “owners”, the mysterious rights-holders, would not have been the first sellers to seek the biggest deal. But all this posturing from Tévez and his people about rights and wrongs, about fair treatment, about respect, demands that we also consider some inconvenient facts.

Facts such as United taking a call last June saying that Tévez would not be returning to Old Trafford even though the club, after taking time to weigh all their options, had offered the contracted asking price.

As United confirmed in a formal statement at the time, they had “agreed to pay the option price of £25.5 million and offered Carlos a five-year contract which would have made him one of its highest-paid players.

Disappointingly, however, his advisers informed the club that, despite the success he has enjoyed during one of the club’s most successful periods, he does not wish to continue playing for Manchester United.”

The fact also, as reported in this newspaper, that the fee eventually paid by City was £47 million, an eye-boggling figure initially contested by Joorabchian but which has yet to draw a murmur of comment by City. City also ended up forking out a salary of £7 million, which was more than United were willing to countenance.

These are not mere details but entirely central to the story when we consider Tévez’s cocked ears to the United board last week and the yap-yap gestures to Neville.

Because they demolish the idea that Tévez has a basis for his grudge.

They expose that he is not a rebel with a cause. They reveal that he is just a footballer for whom City were willing to pay spectacularly over the odds, making him among the top five most expensive players in the history of the game, in the company of Zinédine Zidane and Kaká. United offered less to keep him — but it was hardly treating the striker like a piece of meat, or showing him disrespect, when they stopped the bidding at £25.5 million.

And so to Neville, who knew, like everyone else at Old Trafford, that Tévez moved for more than £40 million last summer rather than the widely reported £25.5 million. That knowledge set the entire context for his remarks in the Maltese Times, even though he did not go into figures.

Asked a perfectly reasonable question by a reader — “was it a mistake to let Tévez leave United?” — he gave a perfectly reasoned answer. “The manager over the years has made many decisions with regard to players coming and going and he has almost always been proved correct,” he said.

“I can’t disagree with his decision on Tévez. He was a good player for us, but if the financial demands are too big [note no mention of how big], then that’s just the way it goes. Other good players have left this club in the past; it’s not the first time it’s happened.”

In this supposedly incendiary column, he also noted that City were not to be taken lightly, least of all Tévez. “They definitely have quality in forward positions,” it read. “Craig Bellamy has been playing well, as have Martin Petrov and Carlos Tévez, who was excellent against Wolves. City impressed me in that game.” Hardly gobby, hardly gloating. Not exactly taunting, either.

Neville was giving a straight answer to a straight question, as, more than most footballers, he has tried to do throughout his career.

It is a career that is heading towards its twilight and one that will be remembered, certainly by fans of United and England, for its unswerving dedication. Neville is a player who made the very best of himself and his abilities.

A combative nature has also brought its more abrasive moments — and we can add the raised digit of last week to the list — but take it from me, take it from anyone in the game, Neville needs no lectures on class and respect from Joorabchian.

It leaves us heading to Old Trafford tomorrow for fireworks and no doubt another twist in a story that has more complexities than people have allowed for. Will Tévez prove United wrong to have got rid of him (even though they didn’t)? Will his former club have the last laugh (even though they could probably do with another forward, just not one priced the same as Kaká)?

They are judgments that need weighing up with all the information to hand, not some muddled notion that the player was forced anywhere against his will. Victimhood does not sit well with Tévez or his former owners, whose take from his moves exceeded £60 million on an original £14 million investment.

Tévez made his bed at City, complete with the £7 million-a-year cushion. We must assume that he is happy to lie in it, however hostile the reception as he ventures back.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 26, 2010, 12:49:48 PM
All that talk and what? Alyuh have Berbatove for how much $ doing nothing. Stop crying over spilt milk. If you all was dominating and ahead by a couple points Tevez would not have mattered you all would have been laughing at him. BUt, you all topsy turvy and sweating bullets, the club owners asking players to give they salary back (so much for a big club) and fans don't know what to do?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 26, 2010, 12:55:22 PM
All that talk and what? Alyuh have Berbatove for how much $ doing nothing. Stop crying over spilt milk. If you all was dominating and ahead by a couple points Tevez would not have mattered you all would have been laughing at him. BUt, you all topsy turvy and sweating bullets, the club owners asking players to give they salary back (so much for a big club) and fans don't know what to do?

???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 26, 2010, 12:57:53 PM
Reds swoop for Smalling

United have agreed terms with Fulham to sign their England Under-21 international defender Chris Smalling.

The 20-year-old Greenwich-born centre-back will join the Reds from the start of the 2010/11 season.

A club spokesperson told ManUtd.com: "Manchester United has agreed terms for the transfer of Chris Smalling from Fulham. Chris has agreed personal terms with the club and will join for the beginning of the 2010/2011 campaign. He will remain at Fulham until the end of the current season."

An England Under-21 international, Smalling has made just nine first-team appearances for Fulham, who signed him from non-league Maidstone 18 months ago.

After shining in the club’s Reserves, Roy Hodgson handed him his senior debut on the final day of the 2008/09 season. His first start came in September 2009 when Fulham travelled to CSKA Sofia in the UEFA Cup, where he played the full 90 minutes in a 1-1 draw. Hodgson said: “If you analysed his performance, he played with a maturity I'm not entitled to expect from a player so young.”

Smalling earned an England U21 debut in November last year and a first league start, against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, six weeks later.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6645696
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 27, 2010, 12:41:02 AM
Reds swoop for Smalling


Smalling earned an England U21 debut in November last year and a first league start, against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, six weeks later.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6645696

Scored an own goal if I remember correctly
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 27, 2010, 07:57:39 AM
Reds swoop for Smalling


Smalling earned an England U21 debut in November last year and a first league start, against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, six weeks later.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6645696

Scored an own goal if I remember correctly

Yea very unfortunate... Keeper flicked it onto him and it carried over the line

His performance was good though...very solid throughout
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 27, 2010, 03:56:33 PM
We should be able to take care of Man.C at home.....not worried one bit.
like I said we would take care of business at home.... good job United!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on January 27, 2010, 04:00:35 PM
ROOOOOOOOOONEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 27, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
Glory Glory  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 27, 2010, 04:08:42 PM
Glory Glory  ;D

Well done, and by de way, thanks for keeping our top spot warm  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: nnyman18 on January 28, 2010, 12:32:24 AM
Since Ronaldo left for Madrid Rooney has really stepped up his game and once again came through for the red Devils once again as he scored the game winner against City in the derby

Rooney wins derby thriller
Wayne Rooney's injury-time header decided a pulsating Manchester derby in the Carling Cup semi-final second leg in favour of Manchester United at Old Trafford. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 28, 2010, 02:05:33 AM
Sky launches 3D channel in pubs  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483136.stm

Sky is kicking off the UK's first 3D channel with a live Premier League football match to be broadcast from nine pubs around the UK this weekend.

The match between Arsenal and Manchester United will be viewable in 3D in pubs in London, Manchester, Cardiff, Edinburgh and Dublin.

In April Sky will roll out its 3D channel to hundreds of other pubs.

Later in the year, Sky 3D will be made available to all Sky+HD customers with a range of content on offer.

This will include movies, sport, documentaries and entertainment.

Sky 3D will initially be available as a free add-on for those with Sky+HD boxes.

Viewers need to wear a special pair of glasses to watch the content.

There has been a great deal of hype around the technology since cinemas began showing films in 3D.

Avatar, shot in 3D, has become the highest grossing film of all time.

It is expected that 3D-ready TVs will hit the consumer market later this year.

"People have already embraced 3D cinema and because Sky's 3D service uses the same kind of technology, we're confident there will be demand for sport, movies, concerts and drama in 3D," said Gerry O'Sullivan, SKy's director of strategic product development.

In February, two rugby matches in the Six Nations championship will be filmed in 3D and shown at cinemas around the UK.

The 2010 World Cup will also be filmed in the format.

The BBC was the first to show a 3D sports event, broadcasting a Scotland v England rugby match at the Six Nations championship in 2008.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mal jeux on January 28, 2010, 07:34:45 AM
3d and pub in one sentence. After 3 beers them seeing in 4 d oui.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on January 28, 2010, 12:33:04 PM
Nice they could see Bendtner buss Manu net in 3-D

Priceless!!!!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2010, 01:58:21 PM
Nice they could see Bendtner buss Manu net in 3-D

Priceless!!!!


and Rooney score a hat-trick on them 3-1 to Man.U ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: theworm2345 on January 28, 2010, 08:59:41 PM
3D?  I will be trying to find the ball on a crappy internet stream  :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on January 28, 2010, 10:24:47 PM
With these games in 3D, is it supposed to give the feel like you're playing on the pitch with everything up close like in the movies?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on January 28, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
3D?  I will be trying to find the ball on a crappy internet stream  :'(

yuh overs!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 29, 2010, 09:52:05 AM
Liam Gallagher was quick to join in the love-in by bigging up Mancini's impeccable fashion sense. He told Football 365: "The scarf is cool. I want one. Mancini is certainly cooler than that Taggart from across the road. He's a good manager but he looks like a dustbin man.".... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The singer confirmed that he was not at Old Trafford to witness Rooney's late goal, explaining: "I wouldn't step foot in that place. I've never been and I don't want to go. It's not for me. Anyway, I don't think I'd get a good reception." Gotta love him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 29, 2010, 10:10:30 AM
Liam Gallagher was quick to join in the love-in by bigging up Mancini's impeccable fashion sense. He told Football 365: "The scarf is cool. I want one. Mancini is certainly cooler than that Taggart from across the road. He's a good manager but he looks like a dustbin man.".... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The singer confirmed that he was not at Old Trafford to witness Rooney's late goal, explaining: "I wouldn't step foot in that place. I've never been and I don't want to go. It's not for me. Anyway, I don't think I'd get a good reception." Gotta love him.

Ha- funny...

Liam and his brother Noel are two Mancunian thugs who are nothing short of good entertainment.  If they couldn't sing or play the guitar, they'd probably be pumping gas, or snatching handbags for a living. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on January 31, 2010, 08:12:13 AM
List of pubs showing Arsenal v. Man Utd. game in 3D  :beermug:
http://bit.ly/c1I9k7
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
I see Arsene decide that half a Vermalen is greater than a whole Sol.

And Song on the field too.

BTW, Chelsea need allyuh to Draw.
It will make the title run a lot less stressful.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 31, 2010, 10:18:08 AM
FSC advertised that it will be broadcasted in HD, but it's not...same old coverage quality. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 10:19:16 AM
FSC advertised that it will be broadcasted in HD, but it's not...same old coverage quality. 

After 3D they ent have no more room for H.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 10:24:58 AM
Arshavin playing real greedy. Like he watching tapes of Eto'o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 31, 2010, 10:33:39 AM
FSC advertised that it will be broadcasted in HD, but it's not...same old coverage quality. 

After 3D they ent have no more room for H.

lol true  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 10:39:31 AM
Hard luck dey Arsenal

Why Denilson stop running? He watch Rooney just run past...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 31, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
Synopsis so far- Arsenal simply not good enough...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 11:13:19 AM
Game done.
Expect the cussing, lamenting, crowing and chanting posts soon...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2010, 11:13:38 AM
3-D or 3-0?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
Walcott on for Denilson.

Denilson has done nothing today except watch ppl score.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 31, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
Arsenal showing heart and character, but do they have the quality...and the time?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 31, 2010, 11:51:48 AM
The way Man U Defending with 10 in the box, they only looking to run out the clock.
Of course, with a 3-1 lead. They don't really have anything to worry about.

Denilson and Bendtner should probably have been on to start. We have to ask where Gallas, Sagna and Vermalen was when Park scored.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on January 31, 2010, 11:59:11 AM
what a game!

probably one of the best EPL games of the season so far.

ah ready for arsenal-chelski now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on January 31, 2010, 12:04:59 PM
what a wonderful exhibition of how the game should be played

aye...tell arsenal that the goal is the metal frame with the net around it :devil: no wonder SKY sports does sponsor dem matches :devil:

Rooney...................... :applause: :applause: 100 strikes...impressive indeed
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 31, 2010, 12:13:55 PM
Observations..

- Nani looking like he grow a brain. He actually taking his time, holding up the ball and waiting to make things happen besides an audacious piece of skill in the first goal.

- Almunia is nowhere near good enough for a top 4 club. He claw a cross into his own goal. He get beat stupid on near post for Park goal and he look shaky throughout.

- For a defensive midfielder why does Song have such bad positioning? Look at the Rooney goal from the counter attack, Song was right on the edge of the 18 helping to build the attack leaving them short on numbers on the counter. He should not be so far forward so much. Is this the player's or the coach's fault?

- Rooney is fire right now

- Same old Arsenal, flatter to deceive. Watch for Drogba to tap them up again next weekend.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 31, 2010, 12:21:38 PM
Fantastic display from United today.  Rooney played hard as usual and Nani showed some CR7ish displays today, I love the way he got past those two defenders on the wing then fake another by the post before chipping it over Almunia causing him to get a touch for the own goal :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 31, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
Sir Alex on Sky Sports News after d game: "I hope Arsenal go to Chelsea next Sunday and BATTER them!"  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Crazy old man  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 31, 2010, 12:25:28 PM
Nice they could see Bendtner buss Manu net in 3-D

Priceless!!!!


and Rooney score a hat-trick on them 3-1 to Man.U ;D
Atleast I was right about the score ;D and Rooney could have well had 3 today. I'll settle for one though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: SOBRIQUET on January 31, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
where all the men who does come in here and talk about Arsenal and their "magical" football?   I wish people would stop romanticising this SOFT Arsenal team.  Talk is cheap Wenger.  Allyuh aint ready, and haven't been ready for quite some years now!  Bring that tata spin bowling to the Bridge lewwe hit it for SIX!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 31, 2010, 01:09:06 PM
wat a boring game. typical arsenal. shines for d first twenty mins.... then fizzles.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 31, 2010, 01:19:51 PM
Observations..

- Nani looking like he grow a brain. He actually taking his time, holding up the ball and waiting to make things happen besides an audacious piece of skill in the first goal.

- Almunia is nowhere near good enough for a top 4 club. He claw a cross into his own goal. He get beat stupid on near post for Park goal and he look shaky throughout.

- For a defensive midfielder why does Song have such bad positioning? Look at the Rooney goal from the counter attack, Song was right on the edge of the 18 helping to build the attack leaving them short on numbers on the counter. He should not be so far forward so much. Is this the player's or the coach's fault?

- Rooney is fire right now

- Same old Arsenal, flatter to deceive. Watch for Drogba to tap them up again next weekend.

Good observations- Nani is not peak fit though- looked like the erratic Nani of old in the final 20 mins...Still a few more consistent 90 min games needed- but he is very talented. 

Arsenal is lacking game changers i.e. unpredictable players who can create something out of nothing (Fabregas is good, and had a strong 1st half- his rhythm was a bit off in the 2nd but he's not a game changer). Arshavin is the closest thing they have to a game changer but everything goes through him, and it's too much of a load against a team like Man U.  A few times well Arsenal got the ball, and they give it to just gave it to Arshavin and said- "do yuh ting".

Rosicky and Denilson were poor today

Rooney is out of control- He played a chunk of the 2nd half carrying a knock, and still was too much for the Arsenal defense to handle.  For England's sake, hopefully he is not peaking too early.

For all the stick Fletcher took in another thread, he's a quality player, alot of whose efforts go unnoticed.  Not an imaginative spark, but a quality player

The ball didn't "fall" for Arsenal today...slight different run of the green in the first 20 mins and the game could have been alot different- overall Man U is just a better team though...... 7 out of 10 times they woulda won this game. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2010, 02:51:54 PM
hmm cutarse in 3D  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on January 31, 2010, 05:04:12 PM
Glory Glory..... :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 31, 2010, 05:22:28 PM
So how much points is Man United leading the league by?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: davidephraim on February 01, 2010, 08:16:50 AM
Synopsis so far- Arsenal simply not good enough...

nice to watch but not as good as Manu, Chelsea and possible Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on February 01, 2010, 08:55:38 AM
hmm cutarse in 3D  :devil:

aa DHW u come back :) dey winnin again nah ;D :angel: ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 01, 2010, 09:32:45 AM
hmm cutarse in 3D  :devil:

aa DHW u come back :) dey winnin again nah ;D :angel: ::)

   Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, lefty, yuh notice, eh?!  Yuh take de words right out meh mout'.  manUre was gettin' dey ass cut, DieHard wasn't NO WHERE to be found.........dey on a mini roll, he pop-up loud and clear like jack-in-de-box!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on February 01, 2010, 10:05:54 AM
hmm cutarse in 3D  :devil:

aa DHW u come back :) dey winnin again nah ;D :angel: ::)

   Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, lefty, yuh notice, eh?!  Yuh take de words right out meh mout'.  manUre was gettin' dey ass cut, DieHard wasn't NO WHERE to be found.........dey on a mini roll, he pop-up loud and clear like jack-in-de-box!

 :-X :-X ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 01, 2010, 10:35:58 AM
Arshavin and Vermalen are awesome...I wish United could buy them... Fabregas is quality but he was poor yesterday

Everybody else on the Arsenal team brings down the chances of Arsenal doing well... Song, Clichy, Sagna, Van Persie are the only players at Arsenal worthy of playing with the 3 other players

Everyone else should be sold off or bring in higher quality players in their position and add the depth quality


That is the only time I will ever say something positive about the Gunners... enjoy Stunned Gunner

Anyways..United were class yesterday..we got the tactics spot on and contained Arsenal's passing and hit them on the counter twice to perfection.

We took our chances, they didnt.. we played great but we made them play badly due to the tactics

Take a look at the analysis after the highlights from BBC Match of the Day... it really shows you how much shit Arsenal did and comparison to United defending a counter attack(its worth the download)
http://www.mediafire.com/?egkmjqmm2jv

Great week for United...lets push on
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 06, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
Back on Top...5-0 win vs Pompey today

Chelsea be warned..slip up tomorrow and we stay top....Beat Arsenal and you get to enjoy top spot for 1 more weekend
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bally on February 06, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
LOOK HE BACK
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2010, 04:40:17 PM
hmm cutarse in 3D  :devil:

aa DHW u come back :) dey winnin again nah ;D :angel: ::)

   Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, lefty, yuh notice, eh?!  Yuh take de words right out meh mout'.  manUre was gettin' dey ass cut, DieHard wasn't NO WHERE to be found.........dey on a mini roll, he pop-up loud and clear like jack-in-de-box!

 ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 07, 2010, 01:26:35 PM
Arshavin and Vermalen are awesome...I wish United could buy them... Fabregas is quality but he was poor yesterday


Did you see them taking notes from drogba?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on February 10, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 10, 2010, 02:38:33 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended
I think yuh mixing up your names for the own goal, it was a pass from Nani to Giggs. That should have been a yellow and not a red.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on February 10, 2010, 02:53:30 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended
I think yuh mixing up your names for the own goal, it was a pass from Nani to Giggs. That should have been a yellow and not a red.

I stand corrected. Will have to review that. Agreed should be a yellow card.

Second half start. Lehwe see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 10, 2010, 07:35:32 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended


  Malice need not be intended for an offense to be red card-able. It was a reckless challenge, to say the least, and he actually went over the top of the ball and coulda break de man shin.  Red card was in order.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on February 10, 2010, 08:08:46 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended


  Malice need not be intended for an offense to be red card-able. It was a reckless challenge, to say the least, and he actually went over the top of the ball and coulda break de man shin.  Red card was in order.   

I think it was a yellow card. That said, I wouldn't have minded the red as much if the ref had actually been consistent with the rest of the calls in the game.

However him and his assistants went on to to miss so many other calls - as well as let so much else go -that it made Nani's sending off look simply like an isolated reaction to the heightened outrage of the crowd.

The officials simply didn't know what they were doing out there. Much like in the Merseyside Derby - where the ref essentially allowed assault to go on for most of the game - but then elected to send off Pienaar for what amounted to an innocous challenge in the dying minute(s).

They wonder why the players and managers don't respect the refs and people call for video technology; but the officiating just seems to get worse (for everyone) from season to season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 10, 2010, 08:24:46 PM
What a laser pinpoint pass from Rooney to Nani for that first own goal. United is Tears oui.

Nani was unfortunate with that sending off. No malice intended


  Malice need not be intended for an offense to be red card-able. It was a reckless challenge, to say the least, and he actually went over the top of the ball and coulda break de man shin.  Red card was in order.   

I think it was a yellow card. That said, I wouldn't have minded the red as much if the ref had actually been consistent with the rest of the calls in the game.

However him and his assistants went on to to miss so many other calls - as well as let so much else go -that it made Nani's sending off look simply like an isolated reaction to the heightened outrage of the crowd.

The officials simply didn't know what they were doing out there. Much like in the Merseyside Derby - where the ref essentially allowed assault to go on for most of the game - but then elected to send off Pienaar for what amounted to an innocous challenge in the dying minute(s).

They wonder why the players and managers don't respect the refs and people call for video technology; but the officiating just seems to get worse (for everyone) from season to season.


  If Drogba could get a yellow card for RECEIVING a drop-kick in he chest from johhny evans, then nanny deserve a red card for trying to amputate a man at the shin.   ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 20, 2010, 08:47:39 AM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 20, 2010, 08:52:31 AM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 20, 2010, 08:55:13 AM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


  Ryan boy, leave de people dem alone dis early mawnin', let dem grieve in peace nuh  ;D......Everton is a side does give ALL dem big side trouble (including we Chelsea and all) so lewwe offer some condolences and hope dat Chelsea handle dey business against Wolves eh.   ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on February 20, 2010, 09:02:21 AM
Big side iz Big side wee....

Imagine d 2nd best side on Merseyside rough up Manure

And to booth dey do it without Felliani

Well done Everton.... :cheers:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 20, 2010, 10:40:23 AM
big side like everton :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on February 20, 2010, 10:41:41 AM
WASH ASS
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 20, 2010, 10:47:09 AM
There is a silence hanging over the trutters lounge room......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 20, 2010, 10:48:10 AM
There is a silence hanging over the trutters lounge room......


We get Cut Arse, WASH ASS, that mudders skunk... Landon Donovan...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on February 20, 2010, 10:55:03 AM
Watching both games Manu vs Everton and Arsenal vs Sunderland, both teams looked to be suffering from their midweek CL game.
Remember they had to travel away and both had very competitive, tough games.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 20, 2010, 10:55:52 AM
There is a silence hanging over the trutters lounge room......


We get Cut Arse, WASH ASS, that mudders skunk... Landon Donovan...!


 ....man muss be walkin' dong Maraval road in TEARS......hard luck, D.H.W.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 20, 2010, 11:08:38 AM
Roll Call -

Small Mag - Absent
DHW - Absent
JDB - Absent
triniairman - Absent
Cantona007 - Absent
Reaper2004 - Absent
Kilowog - Absent
Reddevils - Absent
xixgon - Absent
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 20, 2010, 11:15:21 AM
Dont worry I here but I am not worried bout the result win is a win and a loss is a loss not crying over spilt milk. as Observer say they had away games in the Champions League so obviously they wouldnt be at 100% an Chelsea havent played their CL match yet so they had the advantage of a full strength squad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 20, 2010, 11:24:31 AM
Roll Call -

Small Mag - Absent
DHW - Absent
JDB - Absent
triniairman - Absent
Cantona007 - Absent
Reaper2004 - Absent
Kilowog - Absent
Reddevils - Absent
xixgon - Absent

na man I just wake up, I on the PT yuh know.... anyway, I watch the game 4:30am my time and I went back to sleep....Everton played very good and we were out played all over the park. We lorse, there is nothing else really to say. :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 20, 2010, 11:38:26 AM
Daft face it not every season is goin to be a damn cake walk, Ferguson and United knew this an now we have 6 losses an 4 points behind Chelsea and 2 ahead of Arsenal, I aint happy with this defeat also but we have to hold our heads up high an hope for better performances and results in the next couple of months because they aint going to be easy.


Edit: wait where Daft post disappear to?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 20, 2010, 11:43:39 AM
Daft face it not every season is goin to be a damn cake walk, Ferguson and United knew this an now we have 6 losses an 4 points behind Chelsea and 2 ahead of Arsenal, I aint happy with this defeat also but we have to hold our heads up high an hope for better performances and results in the next couple of months because they aint going to be easy.


Edit: wait where Daft post disappear to?

Ah remove it... when I reread it... it sounded insulting... and ah not on that vibes fuh man tuh get kicks on us because they fee we bickering with one and other...

The losses have been hurting meh as a fan doh...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 20, 2010, 11:49:31 AM
Daft face it not every season is goin to be a damn cake walk, Ferguson and United knew this an now we have 6 losses an 4 points behind Chelsea and 2 ahead of Arsenal, I aint happy with this defeat also but we have to hold our heads up high an hope for better performances and results in the next couple of months because they aint going to be easy.


Edit: wait where Daft post disappear to?

Ah remove it... when I reread it... it sounded insulting... and ah not on that vibes fuh man tuh get kicks on us because they fee we bickering with one and other...

The losses have been hurting meh as a fan doh...!

indeed the defeats do hurt but I always look pass it (dont get chain up I also cuss too) to see if they can improve, I wish half the time Fergie would take some advice from the fans on how to bolster the squad besides just the transfer market, I am sure they have a bunch of ideas that are actually worthwhile an tactically efficient.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on February 20, 2010, 11:52:33 AM
Everton were better on the day, jus like they were better than Chelsea. Everton's dynamic game and energy jus outdid Utd, especially in the 2nd half. Tings finally caught up to men like Evans and Brown - cah get Vidic & Rio back in d middle fast enough yes.

I thought this was a good game to stick with the modfied 4-5-1 as well, considering Everton's strength in midfield - playing 4-4-2 with Berbatov jus leaves too much open space and he's not playing well enough just yet to justify changing a working system na.

Say what doh, back to 4 points - sucks but still some way to go.

I like how men does get on other men back for not postin when they side loss. For one ting, what exactly men supposed to say - and then once we do say anyting at all, men still wa reply wit nonsensical shit :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on February 20, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
First ManU game I watch in a while, I make a habit of not watching sh!t.

Big up Landon Donovan although he did not score he played for the team and never stopped running. ManU's defense was all at sea in the end, as usual Wes Brown was shown for the $hithound that he really is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 20, 2010, 12:02:59 PM
Midweek hangover.... United looked tired and just couldnt get into another gear... The league still has many upsets to go

but 4 points are alot so It will take a combination of good form and luck to overturn the gap

Credit to Everton..they were more up for it

We cant win them all


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 20, 2010, 12:05:53 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on February 20, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers




Chelsea were beaten 3-1 by Wigan earlier in the season - a worse result than this for sure. But say what, none a da matters right now - dey doin wa dey hadda do and we not - credit to dem I suppose.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 20, 2010, 12:16:12 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers




Chelsea were beaten 3-1 by Wigan earlier in the season - a worse result than this for sure. But say what, none a da matters right now - dey doin wa dey hadda do and we not - credit to dem I suppose.

As Fergie said whoever is the most consistent will win the League ... hopefully we can go on a winning streak

Liverpool,Chelsea,Spurs at home and City away are the 4 most dangerous fixtures left... all must wins

Chelsea travel to Liverpool,Spurs and United ...and host City and Villa

Plenty points to be dropped and won between United and Chelsea... race will go down to the wire... And Arsenal already played all top 4 clubs.. they only have Spurs and City to worry about.. but a few injuries and they will destroy themselves
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 20, 2010, 01:01:36 PM
Man U were outworked- probably sluggish from midweek Champions League.

Everton's performance was one of the hardest working and most disciplined performances I've seen in a while.   

Donovan again had a strong game.

Pienaar is quality player...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 20, 2010, 03:34:35 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers



Forward ever, backward never, lol. I cah believe yall would post results from last season or try to remind me of yuh history jus to prove yuh side is any good. All dat history and Everton still palance all over yuh today  :rotfl:

Dont hate. At least we can agree that yall are better than Arsenal.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 20, 2010, 04:53:19 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers



Forward ever, backward never, lol. I cah believe yall would post results from last season or try to remind me of yuh history jus to prove yuh side is any good. All dat history and Everton still palance all over yuh today  :rotfl:

Dont hate. At least we can agree that yall are better than Arsenal.  :beermug:

so u want me to post a result from the future? let me check my crystal ball and get back to yuh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 20, 2010, 04:54:14 PM
Do big sides get beaten by 2 goals?


Manchester United 3-0 Chelsea 11 January 2009  English Premier League , more like 3 nil

you cant put that result DHW...he said big sides... a team that has won only 3 titles and nothing in Europe should belong in the category of mediocre

Know your place Rentboys... 3 titles... f**king jokers



true, they aint even have a European title
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 20, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
as soon as men loss, they does run for de history book.  :rotfl: :rotfl:

allyuh starting to sound like liverpool fans now.

in the words of a wise man...

"boy stop live inna de past, just remember when man ah ride ass!!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 20, 2010, 07:12:34 PM

as soon as men loss, they does run for de history book.  :rotfl: :rotfl:

allyuh starting to sound like liverpool fans now.

in the words of a wise man...

"boy stop live inna de past, just remember when man ah ride ass!!"

I does always render my contemptuous grin whenever I seeing them manUre and liverpool fans pulling out "history" and "pedigree" as weapons and not one fart a dem are from from either of those cities, grew with the clubs or was even alive to know how they earned their "status".  :rotfl: 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 20, 2010, 08:43:09 PM

as soon as men loss, they does run for de history book.  :rotfl: :rotfl:

allyuh starting to sound like liverpool fans now.

in the words of a wise man...

"boy stop live inna de past, just remember when man ah ride ass!!"

I does always render my contemptuous grin whenever I seeing them manUre and liverpool fans pulling out "history" and "pedigree" as weapons and not one fart a dem are from from either of those cities, grew with the clubs or was even alive to know how they earned their "status".  :rotfl: 

What you talking about....? Dey know all de chunes... and history daiz all that does matter...!

Glory Glory...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 20, 2010, 11:26:49 PM
We have history and recent glory... we are not Liverpool basking in the glory of the 80's

Last 3 seasons have resulted in 3 EPL titles,1 Champions League title, 2 Community Shield titles, 1 league Cup, 1 World Club Cup

this season we are in the Carling Cup Final again..very decent position to be challenging for a 4th consecutive prem(considering our lack of defense for the entire season).. 90 minutes away from a CL quarterfinal ...

All with a season long defensive crisis including Goalkeeper and without Ronaldo

We are only in February.... and Rio and Vidic are back... beware.. the ride isnt over yet


Enjoy your 2 FA Cup's over that same period posted above...mediocre shit side

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on February 21, 2010, 09:44:50 AM
as soon as men loss, they does run for de history book.  :rotfl: :rotfl:

allyuh starting to sound like liverpool fans now.

in the words of a wise man...

"boy stop live inna de past, just remember when man ah ride ass!!"


they should keep this on the front cover of the history book

http://www.youtube.com/v/HMtEF6WCvAA
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 21, 2010, 11:24:22 AM
These supporters real brittle boy, like they eh sure about their foundation or what. Why they have to defend theyself so?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on February 21, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
Haha men defend dey side an get pong - men doh defend dey side an get pong. Cah win wit haters yes.

And is one a you'll men da make d statement "big side does lose by 2 goals?" - men like me an Small Mag jus disprovin da - d past is d past, but 1 bad loss eh make ur side shit all of a sudden haha.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 23, 2010, 04:11:49 PM
United 3 West Ham 0

Rooney x2... Owen

Great response.. very good performance... especially from Valencia, Scholes, Rooney and Berba... Gibson and Park were good too

Defense were good as well.. Vidic was tops..quality player..... Foster even had a good one

Onto Wembley



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 27, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
Manchester United fans prepare to show their true colours at Wembley

Green and gold will outnumber the traditional black and red at Wembley on Sunday as supporters unite against the Glazers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2010/feb/27/manchester-united-glazers-wembley-protest 

When a Manchester United supporter still known only as "chatmaster" floated the idea on an internet messageboard that fans might defy the debt-laden Glazer family's ownership by wearing green and gold, he can surely not have dreamed the scale the demonstration would reach. At tomorrow's Carling Cup final against Aston Villa, United fans in their thousands will arrive at Wembley sporting scarves or shirts in those original colours of Newton Heath, the club formed in 1878 by workers on the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway, which later became Manchester United.

It will, surely, be the first time in football history that fans choose a showpiece final to protest en masse against their club's owners, and that signifies the remarkably educated nature of this United fans' campaign. The half-hearted argument that they have nothing to demonstrate about given three Premier League championships, a Champions League trophy and now yet another Wembley final since the Glazers bought the club in 2005, is having no impact.

Last month the Glazers published their bond-raising prospectus setting out the details of their ownership. The fans know that Sir Alex Ferguson and his team's success has been achieved despite the £716m of debt the Glazers loaded on to the club, the £464m fees and interest for which United have since become liable, and the £22.9m the family have taken out in fees and personal loans. No justification of that, or attempt to say it has not affected the club, from Ferguson, the chief executive, David Gill, or the Glazer family's representative, has swayed general outrage among fans whose ticket prices have steadily risen to pay for it all.

"It had a very powerful impact for fans to see from the Glazers, in their own document, that so much money is going out of the club," says Duncan Drasdo, chief executive of the Manchester United Supporters' Trust. "Green and gold has become so effective because it is a clear way to protest against the Glazers while supporting the team and proposing a better vision for United. It feels now like a widespread movement for change."

The yearning fuelled by this reaction is for United to be owned not by investors like the Glazers, but by the supporters, for the club to be truly a club. Given the scale of finance required to buy the Glazers out, presumably with a profit, and the £716m debts to take on or pay off, this is beyond a movement of ordinary fans. The trust, though, is in contact with the "red knights", a group of wealthy United supporters developing a bid to put to the Glazers. That, Drasdo says, is likely to involve 40 or so people taking a small stake each, and giving opportunities to the trust and fans generally to build up a shareholding.

Andy Green, an investment professional and United supporter who wrote a challenging open letter to Gill last week under his blogging name Andersred, says: "There is a very serious process going on in the City, with investors looking at a structure in which fans can develop as significant a stake as possible. Key will be persuading the Glazers to sell."

Keith Harris, the merchant banker and United supporter working with the red knights group, called this week for supporters to hit the Glazers where the prospectus showed they would be truly damaged, by withholding the money that services all that interest and fees. Drasdo says the prospect of replacing the Glazers with ownership more suited to United's character is hugely important to fans.

"Supporters do have very significant power because the Glazers' financial plans rely on fans continuing to pay their money in a variety of ways," he says. "I think when a very credible bid comes forward, fans will then feel most motivated to wield that power. We already know there is a huge drop in demand for executive facilities, and we believe many people will not renew those subscriptions next season."

The Glazers' representative has declined to comment on any alternative bid, and continued to say the family are long-term investors at United. Yet anger at the debts their takeover has imposed on the club, the other north American "leveraged buyout" at Liverpool, and Portsmouth's financial collapse has popularised the idea of supporter-owned football clubs beyond the passions of a small group of active fans. Supporters from the City of London to the Stretford End are asking why great sporting institutions like Manchester United should be owned by speculators from Florida with no previous connection to it, rather than the crowds of adherents who have supported it for life.

Some fans did turn away from Old Trafford immediately after the Glazer takeover in 2005, and today FC United of Manchester, the supporter-owned club that has since enjoyed three promotions to the UniBond League Premier Division, are holding a rally "Beyond the Debt" at their Gigg Lane ground, to promote supporter ownership.

"Those of us who formed FC United did so because we recognised there was a need to provide a positive, supporter and community-focused alternative," says Andy Walsh, the anti-Glazer campaigner turned general manager of the club. Today's rally will be attended by the Liverpool supporters group Spirit of Shankly, Portsmouth fans and Dave Boyle, the chief executive of Supporters Direct, the organisation that promotes democratic fan involvement in clubs.

Boyle and Walsh were in Brussels this week lobbying the European Parliament for an idea whose time, they believe, has come – together with Uefa, which enshrines in its document "Vision Europe" the idea that clubs should be clubs, owned by the fans. "In an ideal world," it says, "all clubs would be controlled and run by their members – eg supporters – according to democratic principles."

At Gigg Lane today and in green and gold at Wembley tomorrow, supporters will be united in campaigning for football to reassess its tortured relationship with money and rediscover its true colours.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 01, 2010, 05:17:52 PM
Group considers United bid
Financiers in secret meeting to discuss potential takeover offer

Sky News sources understand leading city financiers have met to discuss a potential takeover bid for Premier League champions Manchester United.

Representatives from law firm Freshfields and investment bank Goldman Sachs, among others, are understood to have been involved in the secret meeting.

Informally known as 'the Red Knights', the group held talks regarding a potential offer to buy out the Glazer family, who are unpopular with United fans.

The mammoth debts at Old Trafford have recently sparked a green and gold protest from supporters as the fans call on the Glazers to leave the club.

A £500million bonds issue has been used to help refinance the debts, and Sky sources understand the Glazers are not looking to sell.

However, Keith Harris, who has been involved with the group considering a potential takeover, recently called on supporters to start boycotting matches in an attempt to force the Glazers' hand.

Big ask
Harris said last week: "Turning up to games 10 minutes late and things like that just doesn't do the job.

"The green and gold protest is fabulous, a symbolic and significant message to the owners. It is like the white handkerchiefs in Spain. But that won't force the Glazers to sell to us.

"However, if enough people - and I am talking about thousands - stop turning up to matches and do not renew their tickets, then that does it. The supporters have to hurt the Glazers in their pockets.

"They have to be prepared to take the pain of not watching their club in order to achieve a long-term gain. Supporters have to be galvanised to say, 'We will not come. We will not buy programmes and merchandise'.

"It's a big ask, it's a risk, but that is what must happen. The Glazers are thick-skinned and seem impervious to protest. They will not be impervious to enormous drops in their revenue.

"I would not talk about this if I didn't have full confidence in our ability to raise the money to do this. I never talk publicly unless I have confidence. Getting the money together is the easy bit.

"But we can't make an offer until the Glazers are placed in a position where they are forced to consider it."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5997961,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2010, 05:29:16 PM
what the f**k is this  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2010, 08:41:44 PM
I hope this shit does not f**k up our chances in the run in

I doubt it will have an impact on the players though... Fergie will sort everything out and he will let the Fans fight the Glazers without having any impact on the players

Let Anchelotti attempt that na.. shithong
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 01, 2010, 09:04:51 PM
I hope this shit does not f**k up our chances in the run in

I doubt it will have an impact on the players though... Fergie will sort everything out and he will let the Fans fight the Glazers without having any impact on the players

Let Anchelotti attempt that na.. shithong

We have all the money we need. Hard  luck they. So much for Rent boys.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 02, 2010, 08:59:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyPr-YFqM8
Haha check that vid out... hilarious
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 02, 2010, 09:14:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyPr-YFqM8
Haha check that vid out... hilarious

No offense to your humor but this really makes United look Gay.... and we all know that Arseanal have de most batty men...!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 02, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyPr-YFqM8
Haha check that vid out... hilarious

No offense to your humor but this really makes United look Gay.... and we all know that Arseanal have de most batty men...!

James Corden (the fat guy) is hilarious... Check this vid of him bashing the England players..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsvim74d31I&feature=related
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 02, 2010, 02:41:42 PM
Hopefully the Red Knights (or others like them) can rid us of this cancer.
LUHG!!


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Red Knights give Manchester United fans hope of respite from Glazers

Red Knights ride to the rescue of United's green-and-gold loyalists but will the Glazers play ball?





 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/02/red-knights-manchester-united-glazers/print


During all the Manchester United fans' long campaigning against what they have seen as serial financial exploitation of them and their cherished club, beginning with the Stock Market plc and ending with the Glazer family, they have nurtured the hope that United could ultimately become owned by supporters, not speculators. The outburst of green and gold in the stands expresses a yearning for United to embody the earthier, working-class roots of their Newton Heath railway worker founders, from long before a family from Florida loaded the club with £716m debt solely to finance its own takeover.

Whether that yearning can evolve into a solid transformation and exit by the Glazers depends on the hard-headed detail beginning to be knocked together in the City of London. Sentiment alone will not buy the club but, if the Red Knights really are United supporters who can raise a great deal of money and work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust to widen ownership, profound change could at least be possible.

The reported presence in yesterday's "Red Knights" meeting of Paul Marshall, the hedge fund founder who has called for the club to be supporter-owned like Barcelona, gives hope for the genuineness of the idea. It shows, too, how widespread the revulsion has been to the revelations about United's debts contained in January's prospectus by which United were seeking to borrow £500m in bonds, at 8.75% interest "yield" – £43.75m a year.

The prospectus set out the detail, that in yet another Premier League winning season, 2008-09, United made a profit only because they sold Cristiano Ronaldo for £81m. It itemised the £22.9m the Glazers themselves have been paid in fees and personal loans and how much more they can take out.

The attitude no longer washes that somehow the fans do not understand finance and that this is all fine for United. Fans from working-class Mancunians to the men in the City yesterday have united in seeing through the blandishments to the core fact: a great football club has been lumped with punishing debt for no purpose other than a profit the Glazers ultimately seek for themselves.

Even the success United have had under the Glazers, and the formidable run into which Sir Alex Ferguson has whipped his team since they lost 1-0 at home to Leeds United in the FA Cup, has not appeased fans who see simply how much better the club would be without pouring fortunes out to a debt mountain.

Yet before any takeover becomes real there are, of course, major challenges. Put bluntly, they are: can this group of 40 or so people raise anything like the money required to make a realistic offer and, even if they do, would the Glazers sell?

To the first question, assumptions and figures are tossed around. The assumption is that the Glazers, who seem so resolutely thick-skinned in the face of their always stormy welcome in Manchester, would certainly not go without a profit. Of the original £810m purchase price in 2005, they paid £272m, with the rest borrowed from banks and, very expensively, from hedge funds. The presumption is that they would want a significant increase on that £272m before they even entertain a sale. The Red Knights would have to find that, and also take on or pay off the £716m debt. That takes the amount a group of wealthy Manchester United fans need to raise up to around £1bn, a massive mound.

Even if they do, the family has said it is not for selling. The sole point of the bond issue was to enable the Glazers to take money out of the club, £95m initially, to part pay-off the hedge funds whose £202m loans are accruing interest at a heartbreaking 14.25%, rising to 16.25% this August. With that device achieved, and a Wayne Rooney-inspired United still successful enough, the Glazers may dig in for what they claim they want – to remain owners for the long term.

That is where the combination of wealthy, sympathetic buyers and the green and gold mass of fans becomes intriguing. If the Red Knights can raise the money, and supporters, including corporate subscribers, are motivated to vote by wielding their right not to pour their hard-earned into the Glazers' business plans, the family could come under sustained pressure. Delivering so huge a club to wealthy supporters in combination with a supporters trust looks a red devil of a project but it could just have legs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2010, 11:47:49 AM
Lets go Devils  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 06, 2010, 12:29:05 PM
Diouf for Gibson, Obertan for Nani in the second half perhaps - Reds need a spark and another striker on the park I tink.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2010, 01:04:53 PM
 ;D D.H.W SMILES
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
credit to Wolves..they made today f**king frustrating

Scholesyyyy..100 prem goals...Legend

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 06, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
SCHOLESY!! SCHOLESY!!!!!! PAUL FREAKING SCHOLES!!!!!!!! CONGRATS ON YOUR 100TH GOAL BOYO!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 11, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
Reality bites for Ronaldo
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There can’t be a single United fan who, on hearing of Real Madrid’s exit last night, didn¹t pause to think about Cristiano Ronaldo's reaction to the Reds' 7-2 aggregate thrashing of AC Milan.

He must have cut a fairly disconsolate figure in the dressing room as Real got to grips with their sixth consecutive exit at the first knockout stage of Europe’s most glamorous competition, and it would have taken a brave Madridista to lean over and say, “By the way, your old boys did alright tonight.”

The grass clearly isn’t always greener on the other side, it seems. Meanwhile, the Reds go marching on as a third consecutive final edges closer. And remind me, where is that final again? Ah yes. Seven years ago, our dreams of playing in a Champions League final at our own ground were shattered by an awesome Real Madrid side inspired by the Brazilian Ronaldo.

This year, will the Portuguese version be in the stands as United take to the Bernabeu turf to contest the biggest prize of all? It would be nice to think so. Who knows, he may even be sat next to another former no.7 who’s played in both Madrid and Manchester. And if the campaign continues in similar vein, the World and European player of the year awards could well be returning to OT.

I don’t really need to add to the tributes currently being lavished on Wayne Rooney, but suffice to say, from my spot in the East Stand last night (enjoying the view the away fans usually have at OT), it was pretty clear we were in the company of the greatest footballer in the world right now.

Can Rooney really match Ronaldo’s 42-goal haul from two seasons ago, the challenge seemingly laid down by Sir Alex? He needs 12 goals from a potential 14 matches. On current form, don’t bet against it.

This is a big if, but if Wayne matches or even surpasses that total one Saturday night in Madrid in May, we’re pretty sure his old team-mate Ronny will be the first to applaud. And maybe pause to imagine what might have been. (I really need to get these daydreams under control, I’m a grown man.)

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={83A644F4-1A7E-48B9-AF95-4605613A9A18}&newsid=6647243&page=2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 11, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
Wayne Rooney refuses to set target as he nears Cristiano Ronaldo mark
• Manchester United striker has scored 30 goals this season
• 'I have not set myself a target. I just want to keep scoring'
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Wayne Rooney is refusing to set himself a goals target for the season despite reaching the 30 mark at Old Trafford last night. Rooney continued his incredible recent run of form for Manchester United by grabbing a double in the stunning 4-0 Champions League demolition of Milan.

It meant the 24-year-old scored four of United's seven goals over the two legs and left him just 12 away from the number Cristiano Ronaldo scored in the double-winning season two years ago.

With nine Premier League games remaining, plus up to five more in the Champions League, the odds on Rooney eclipsing Ronaldo's feat are tumbling fast. But the England striker is refusing to look too far ahead, and insists his major priority is looking forward to the last-eight draw tomorrow week.

"I am delighted to get two more goals but I have not set myself a target. I just want to keep scoring," said Rooney. "Overall, it was a great result and we are delighted to get through. Now we can just look forward to the draw and see how it goes from there. There is no preference. They are all difficult games at this stage of the competition."

United already know Lyon, Bayern Munich and Arsenal are potential quarter-final opponents, while the holders Barcelona, Internazionale, Chelsea and Sevilla appear to be the strongest sides left in the other half of the draw, which is concluded next week.

However, after ripping apart the seven-times winners in clinical fashion last night, United are bidding to reach a third successive final for the first time in their history.

"The first goal was vital," said Rooney. "We set out to get an early goal to kill the game off and when we got it we shattered Milan's confidence. That was the major turning point."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/11/wayne-rooney-targets-cristiano-ronaldo
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 11, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
David Beckham shows true colours at Manchester United
• Former United player wears scarf of anti-Glazer campaign
• 'I'm a United fan and I support the club. I always will'
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David Beckham puts on the green and yellow scarf of the anti-Glazer movement at Manchester United. Photograph: Jon Super/Associated Press

David Beckham attempted to distance himself from the campaign to oust the Glazer family from Manchester United despite leaving the pitch wearing one of the green and gold scarves that have come to symbolise the fans' protests against the club's owners.

Beckham, afforded a stirring reception on his return to Old Trafford, picked up the scarf after it was thrown from the Stretford End on a night when Malcolm Glazer's sons, Joel and Avram, were inside the stadium to witness the scale of antipathy towards their ownership of the club.

For someone of Beckham's standing to endorse the green and gold movement would be regarded as a major victory for the protestors but, as the former United player reflected on Milan's 4-0 defeat, the heaviest inflicted on them since the Champions League's conception, he said he did not want to be regarded as a figurehead for the campaign. "I'm a Manchester United fan and when I saw the scarf I wanted to put it round my neck," Beckham explained. "It's the old colours of United but, to be honest, it's not my business. I'm a United fan and I support the club. I always will, but it's got nothing to do with me how it's run. That's all to do with other people. I just support the team. I will always support the team."
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That may disappoint those supporters who regarded Beckham's final act before disappearing down the tunnel as a sign of public sympathy and solidarity. Beckham reflected on an "unbelievable" reaction from an Old Trafford crowd buoyed by a commanding performance from their team and two more goals from Wayne Rooney that left Sir Alex Ferguson wondering whether his leading scorer could emulate Cristiano Ronaldo's total of 42 last season.

"It's a challenge," Ferguson said. "I was just happy for Wayne to reach 30, but he keeps on improving and he was sensational again tonight. It was just a continuation of the last two or three months – his form is just sensational. He's improved his movement in the box but he has also been practising a lot more this season than ever before, putting in extra work after training and I think he is getting the rewards of that."

The most prolific season in Rooney's career now incorporates 21 goals in his last 21 games but Ferguson also enthused about the contribution of some of United's less celebrated players, most notably praising Park Ji-sung for the "discipline and intelligence that won us the game" as well as pinpointing Gary Neville's handling of Ronaldinho.

Neville had been brought into the side to spare Rafael da Silva a repeat of his ordeal against Ronaldinho in the first leg and the former England international not only helped quell the threat of Milan's most inventive player but also set up Rooney for the first goal. "He's a remarkable man," Ferguson said. "When you've been out of the game [with injury] for a year and half it's not easy to come back and play every week at the age of 34 and now 35. He succeeded because of his will to succeed and that's really what Gary Neville is all about."

As for Beckham, Ferguson was not surprised by the crowd's affection for the former England captain. "We expected that and he deserved that," the United manager said. "Most of our former players get that type of reception. Paul Ince unfortunately went to play for Liverpool so they weren't exactly throwing garlands at him when he came back but normally they always appreciate the players who have had great careers at this club."

The only downside on the night for United was the news that Owen Hargreaves' planned comeback for the reserves against Manchester City tonight has been postponed.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/11/david-beckham-manchester-united-true-colours
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 11, 2010, 06:24:16 PM
there are some people who would like to drive a wedge between CR and Rooney. But that ain't call for. CR has given more than his money's worth for UTD. He like Beckham will always have a special feeling for the club. These guys just had reach their max at UTD. The best thing was for them to go elsewhere. Rooney is having a great season and I do hope he has a great WC. He has the passion, drive and the skills to score lots of goals. I like CR because he brings more than just scoring. He brings the flair that makes a team exciting and not boring. CR is not perfect, nor is Rooney or most footballers(and I would not bring up Chelsea players in this dept or even Dwight, Lara and Latas.)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2010, 07:12:18 PM
thats what u get for leaving a big team to join that piece of shit real Madrid stueps (Sorry to the Madrid fans out there  ::)) , enjoy your stay CR.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 11, 2010, 07:31:35 PM
Everybody does say the same about the Yankees. They does do the same thing. Spend big. I am not a Yankees fan. But I am Man U fan , long before they had big money. I am enjoying  the magic carpet ride that they are having this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 02:58:21 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on March 12, 2010, 06:13:40 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

Yeah buh study if it didnt happen so. Despite all de money for winning all those titles..the only reason the books balanced last year was cause of the sale of ronaldo. De same ting dat happen to leeds might have very well happened. And dahs de point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 12, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

Yuh talkin' some mess there breds- can't agree.  All the fans are doing is voicing some disatisfaction with what they perceive to be an owner who doesn't have the footballing interest of the club at heart, and is willing to take risks that could potentially put the club (and its fans) in a bad situation merely because it fits the financial model in the best case scenario.  I don't know all the details but what you're saying is analogous to someone working at a company with fiscally reckless management and arguably no intrinsic passion for the company's business but they're happy and smiling so long as they collecting a pay check every month.  That works for some people...but not for all.  And it IS their money unless you're naive enough to think that an organization is run on financing capital only- they're buying the team merchandise, they're buying the season tickets, Television rights are negotiated on the backs of consumers whether directly through subscriptions, or indirectly through the purchase of advertised/sponsored products which are the platform on which advertisements and ad revenue is built.  From a completely different angle/perspective, if you just look at the mere collective time and energy spent by the fans over the course of an entire season, and calculate the opportunity cost of that (and consider who in addition to the fan benefits from that), I'm sure you'd take back what you're saying.... Waggonist or not, a team is nothing without its fans, no matter how yuh try to spin it. 
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 12, 2010, 10:02:31 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

now allyuh see the shit I've been saying about United haters...

If you and your fellow Chelsea fans are comfortable in Debt that's yall..I get it though..yall won some trophies in Debt..

we won trophies before and during debt.. we have history...you lot have f**k all
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 12, 2010, 10:55:12 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

now allyuh see the shit I've been saying about United haters...

If you and your fellow Chelsea fans are comfortable in Debt that's yall..I get it though..yall won some trophies in Debt..

we won trophies before and during debt.. we have history...you lot have f**k all

first of all, exactly who you referring to when you say "you lot" and what is the meaning of "f**k all". Dem ranting posts you typing dey in this jokey fake and freshwater english slang is high comedy. Yuh never live in de people place but yuh trying to sound like them.. i could just imagine how they would laugh at you.

secondly.. this talk about history again.

you wake and up and back the best side yuh see on TV. don't that make you a waggonist? lemme guess, you like Lakers and you used to like Chicago Bulls nuh.. Roger Federer is yuh player and yuh is ah Yankees man.

doh knock men who see a side build up over the years and come and gate crash the old boys party. Not everyone comfortable to just sit in the back and be a prawn sandwich eater and then disappear when the going get rough like most of the man united fans on this board and in general. Some of us here actually used some grey matter to develop valid reasons for liking a side and happy to see it come good. In other words, some of us here actually prefer to write history... not read history. 

relax yuhself and ride with de old talk (not banter) and stop embarassing yuhself with the vitriol nuh man.

When Chelsea loss yuh all up in that thread. Chelsea going and cut allyuh ass in a few weeks and we going and flood this thread and then we going and come back and do dis damn ting all over again next year.

it not that serious!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 12, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

now allyuh see the shit I've been saying about United haters...

If you and your fellow Chelsea fans are comfortable in Debt that's yall..I get it though..yall won some trophies in Debt..

we won trophies before and during debt.. we have history...you lot have f**k all

first of all, exactly who you referring to when you say "you lot" and what is the meaning of "f**k all". Dem ranting posts you typing dey in this jokey fake and freshwater english slang is high comedy. Yuh never live in de people place but yuh trying to sound like them.. i could just imagine how they would laugh at you.

secondly.. this talk about history again.

you wake and up and back the best side yuh see on TV. don't that make you a waggonist? lemme guess, you like Lakers and you used to like Chicago Bulls nuh.. Roger Federer is yuh player and yuh is ah Yankees man.

doh knock men who see a side build up over the years and come and gate crash the old boys party. Not everyone comfortable to just sit in the back and be a prawn sandwich eater and then disappear when the going get rough like most of the man united fans on this board and in general. Some of us here actually used some grey matter to develop valid reasons for liking a side and happy to see it come good. In other words, some of us here actually prefer to write history... not read history. 

relax yuhself and ride with de old talk (not banter) and stop embarassing yuhself with the vitriol nuh man.

When Chelsea loss yuh all up in that thread. Chelsea going and cut allyuh ass in a few weeks and we going and flood this thread and then we going and come back and do dis damn ting all over again next year.

it not that serious!



lol I knew you would have like the you lot part... I never went to school and learnt to use the word "allyuh" instead... sorry that I'm educated... you always quick to call out a trini when they using better words.. where do you live again? didnt you leave your beloved country?

Secondly, I was 8 when Yorkie signed... I have been an absolute die hard since 1998..at 8 years old... not many can boast that... I've never supported another team in my life..I've been to Old Trafford twice(traveled with a friend at age 17 to see my team)..I've seen United in New Jersey for a pre season after convincing my uncle and dad to drive 12 hours from Canada to go see United... I'm not rich and can afford the luxary of going to see United every season but determination prevailed and I got the job done

I talk the talk and walk the walk so dont ever question my loyalty.. the man who supports Chelsea and Barca giving me talk...

I dont follow any other sport as hard as Football... Trinidad and Tobago and Manchester United.. and England when their not playing T&T...

And it is that serious... If you were a loyal die hard you would know

Glory Glory rentboy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 12, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
Look, you have to give the protesting fans some credit.  Yes they winning, but they are being realistic. Winning is not everything. Portmouth just went into receivership. Someone mentioned Leeds UTD. A couple years ago Spurs and the Alan Sugar commesse(correct me on that). With all the financial crap going on with regular businesses(AIG), country(Greece) and clubs, they are expressing their concern about ManU top heavy financial situation. The fans are the liveblood of football clubs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 11:46:07 AM
Portsmouth went into admin becuz they were badly run financially and there was no rich sugar daddy to bail dem out. There will always be someone willing to bail out united. If the glazers defaulted on their loans 2day there would be billionaires queueing up 2 take over. In spite of all the debt, the glazers know that they can end up selling united eventually 4 a massive profit, to someone who wants the club as a luxury item, not as a business.

Now every1 over here rockin green and gold scarves. Guess TNT will jump on dat wagon soon.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 12, 2010, 11:55:14 AM
Mag please if you make statements about being educated, then even for the sake of us uneducated Fans make us look good and learn to spell... or how to use grammar and syntax...!

Yes as fans we does get pound by the board as fans but I see where yuh coming from... you does obviously be on dem United Message boards and yuh passionate about your team. But make no mistake 99% of the fans on this site taking in the games just like you... through tv or the net... yuh cannot expect man on here to have the same intensity as them fans at the game or who reside in manchester or the uk or who actually at the games. When yuh call man rent boys here is jess not the same... cause we all waggonist... I does go game every year and how intense I does feel I is... I know I not a true fan as de fans in de stands who going week in and week out.... who live the red army lifestyle... eh... and I been a fan longer than you and see them live in 2 champion's league....!

Take a look at global economics First Allied Corp holding co not doing so well and we top heavy... de only thing holding us above the water level is that we income high... but de revenue eh matching we debt have incurred. We are a top flight team and we only have 1 top class striker??? No real world class defenders...? and no world class wingers....? Doh say dem men is world class if dey playing for england... cause england is boo compared to Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil etc....! Why yuh think during the transfer window we eh buy no one really...?

Any how Glory Glory...! I will be there in a few weeks to see Chelski get dey arse buss!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 12, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

Yuh talkin' some mess there breds- can't agree.  All the fans are doing is voicing some disatisfaction with what they perceive to be an owner who doesn't have the footballing interest of the club at heart, and is willing to take risks that could potentially put the club (and its fans) in a bad situation merely because it fits the financial model in the best case scenario.  I don't know all the details but what you're saying is analogous to someone working at a company with fiscally reckless management and arguably no intrinsic passion for the company's business but they're happy and smiling so long as they collecting a pay check every month.  That works for some people...but not for all.  And it IS their money unless you're naive enough to think that an organization is run on financing capital only- they're buying the team merchandise, they're buying the season tickets, Television rights are negotiated on the backs of consumers whether directly through subscriptions, or indirectly through the purchase of advertised/sponsored products which are the platform on which advertisements and ad revenue is built.  From a completely different angle/perspective, if you just look at the mere collective time and energy spent by the fans over the course of an entire season, and calculate the opportunity cost of that (and consider who in addition to the fan benefits from that), I'm sure you'd take back what you're saying.... Waggonist or not, a team is nothing without its fans, no matter how yuh try to spin it. 
 

He eh talkin' no mess at all. jed. Whatever the glazers do with the team's profits is not the fans' concern as long as they invest a reasonable amount of money into the team to keep it going as normal. The fans are buying into the team but they not buying the team. Once the money leave their hands, whatever they spend it on, it's no longer theirs and there is no agreement to claim any amount of ownership for any team in return for money spent in pursuit of entertainment.  The only return on the fans' investment that they should expect is an intangible one and that is the gratification of the team being a winning team.....with "history".  And any manu fan willing to make their voice be heard will gladly tell you the have that still to this day, long after their winning precedent had been set how many years ago and throughout the glazers' ownership.  manu is arguably the most popular (club) in the world, one of the wealthiest and one of the most profitable.  If AIG fall out the picture due to the world economy, another big corporation will fall right in to have their names on the front of that jersey.....wait nuh....ent dat done happen arready? Not to mention that if the glazers did decide to sell, they would pull a record-breaking price tag for the team.  Man, please.  All dem manu waggonists fussin' over nutting. This team eh folding over no time soon and the business template the the glazers using is no different from that of the previous owners  They just guilty of bringing in more debt and in a small part, by being american.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 12, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
Look at all deze green and gold waggonists. Under glazer yall have won multiple league titles and d champs league but everyone vex. As recent investor interest shows, there is no chance of man u ever goin bust. So y iz every1 worrying about d money side of things. Iz not ur money. Waggonists.

Yuh talkin' some mess there breds- can't agree.  All the fans are doing is voicing some disatisfaction with what they perceive to be an owner who doesn't have the footballing interest of the club at heart, and is willing to take risks that could potentially put the club (and its fans) in a bad situation merely because it fits the financial model in the best case scenario.  I don't know all the details but what you're saying is analogous to someone working at a company with fiscally reckless management and arguably no intrinsic passion for the company's business but they're happy and smiling so long as they collecting a pay check every month.  That works for some people...but not for all.  And it IS their money unless you're naive enough to think that an organization is run on financing capital only- they're buying the team merchandise, they're buying the season tickets, Television rights are negotiated on the backs of consumers whether directly through subscriptions, or indirectly through the purchase of advertised/sponsored products which are the platform on which advertisements and ad revenue is built.  From a completely different angle/perspective, if you just look at the mere collective time and energy spent by the fans over the course of an entire season, and calculate the opportunity cost of that (and consider who in addition to the fan benefits from that), I'm sure you'd take back what you're saying.... Waggonist or not, a team is nothing without its fans, no matter how yuh try to spin it. 
 

He eh talkin' no mess at all. jed. Whatever the glazers do with the team's profits is not the fans' concern as long as they invest a reasonable amount of money into the team to keep it going as normal. The fans are buying into the team but they not buying the team. Once the money leave their hands, whatever they spend it on, it's no longer theirs and there is no agreement to claim any amount of ownership for any team in return for money spent in pursuit of entertainment.  The only return on the fans' investment that they should expect is an intangible one and that is the gratification of the team being a winning team.....with "history".  And any manu fan willing to make their voice be heard will gladly tell you the have that still to this day, long after their winning precedent had been set how many years ago and throughout the glazers' ownership.  manu is arguably the most popular (club) in the world, one of the wealthiest and one of the most profitable.  If AIG fall out the picture due to the world economy, another big corporation will fall right in to have their names on the front of that jersey.....wait nuh....ent dat done happen arready? Not to mention that if the glazers did decide to sell, they would pull a record-breaking price tag for the team.  Man, please.  All dem manu waggonists fussin' over nutting. This team eh folding over no time soon and the business template the the glazers using is no different from that of the previous owners  They just guilty of bringing in more debt and in a small part, by being american.  


True  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 12, 2010, 12:07:04 PM
Mag please if you make statements about being educated, then even for the sake of us uneducated Fans make us look good and learn to spell... or how to use grammar and syntax...!

Yes as fans we does get pound by the board as fans but I see where yuh coming from... you does obviously be on dem United Message boards and yuh passionate about your team. But make no mistake 99% of the fans on this site taking in the games just like you... through tv or the net... yuh cannot expect man on here to have the same intensity as them fans at the game or who reside in manchester or the uk or who actually at the games. When yuh call man rent boys here is jess not the same... cause we all waggonist... I does go game every year and how intense I does feel I is... I know I not a true fan as de fans in de stands who going week in and week out.... who live the red army lifestyle... eh... and I been a fan longer than you and see them live in 2 champion's league....!

Take a look at global economics First Allied Corp holding co not doing so well and we top heavy... de only thing holding us above the water level is that we income high... but de revenue eh matching we debt have incurred. We are a top flight team and we only have 1 top class striker??? No real world class defenders...? and no world class wingers....? Doh say dem men is world class if dey playing for england... cause england is boo compared to Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil etc....! Why yuh think during the transfer window we eh buy no one really...?

Any how Glory Glory...! I will be there in a few weeks to see Chelski get dey arse buss!


  The spelling thing was just a typo in all the excitement.  I like all the points yuh make (especially callin' all ah we "waggonists" because is true!!) and small mag forget manu was spending big money long before Abramovic came along....but maybe he just too young to remember.....but the last point yuh make is caca. Chelsea might not be firing on all cylinders right now, but we go be runnin' like a brand-new Benz up it ole trafford.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 12, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
Mag please if you make statements about being educated, then even for the sake of us uneducated Fans make us look good and learn to spell... or how to use grammar and syntax...!

Yes as fans we does get pound by the board as fans but I see where yuh coming from... you does obviously be on dem United Message boards and yuh passionate about your team. But make no mistake 99% of the fans on this site taking in the games just like you... through tv or the net... yuh cannot expect man on here to have the same intensity as them fans at the game or who reside in manchester or the uk or who actually at the games. When yuh call man rent boys here is jess not the same... cause we all waggonist... I does go game every year and how intense I does feel I is... I know I not a true fan as de fans in de stands who going week in and week out.... who live the red army lifestyle... eh... and I been a fan longer than you and see them live in 2 champion's league....!

Take a look at global economics First Allied Corp holding co not doing so well and we top heavy... de only thing holding us above the water level is that we income high... but de revenue eh matching we debt have incurred. We are a top flight team and we only have 1 top class striker??? No real world class defenders...? and no world class wingers....? Doh say dem men is world class if dey playing for england... cause england is boo compared to Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil etc....! Why yuh think during the transfer window we eh buy no one really...?

Any how Glory Glory...! I will be there in a few weeks to see Chelski get dey arse buss!


  The spelling thing was just a typo in all the excitement.  I like all the points yuh make (especially callin' all ah we "waggonists" because is true!!) and small mag forget manu was spending big money long before Abramovic came along....but maybe he just too young to remember.....but the last point yuh make is caca. Chelsea might not be firing on all cylinders right now, but we go be runnin' like a brand-new Benz up it ole trafford.  

Breds I only kicksin dat the man eh proof read he thing... me eh trying to evoke or engage in no battle of words... Kaka yuh say... all yuh go be pleasantly surprised  :devil:

Do vex nah... I is ah TnT foot ball fan since liquid form... I learn from young how to have high expectations for meh team...  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 12, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
Mag please if you make statements about being educated, then even for the sake of us uneducated Fans make us look good and learn to spell... or how to use grammar and syntax...!

Yes as fans we does get pound by the board as fans but I see where yuh coming from... you does obviously be on dem United Message boards and yuh passionate about your team. But make no mistake 99% of the fans on this site taking in the games just like you... through tv or the net... yuh cannot expect man on here to have the same intensity as them fans at the game or who reside in manchester or the uk or who actually at the games. When yuh call man rent boys here is jess not the same... cause we all waggonist... I does go game every year and how intense I does feel I is... I know I not a true fan as de fans in de stands who going week in and week out.... who live the red army lifestyle... eh... and I been a fan longer than you and see them live in 2 champion's league....!

Take a look at global economics First Allied Corp holding co not doing so well and we top heavy... de only thing holding us above the water level is that we income high... but de revenue eh matching we debt have incurred. We are a top flight team and we only have 1 top class striker??? No real world class defenders...? and no world class wingers....? Doh say dem men is world class if dey playing for england... cause england is boo compared to Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil etc....! Why yuh think during the transfer window we eh buy no one really...?

Any how Glory Glory...! I will be there in a few weeks to see Chelski get dey arse buss!


  The spelling thing was just a typo in all the excitement.  I like all the points yuh make (especially callin' all ah we "waggonists" because is true!!) and small mag forget manu was spending big money long before Abramovic came along....but maybe he just too young to remember.....but the last point yuh make is caca. Chelsea might not be firing on all cylinders right now, but we go be runnin' like a brand-new Benz up it ole trafford.  

Breds I only kicksin dat the man eh proof read he thing... me eh trying to evoke or engage in no battle of words... Kaka yuh say... all yuh go be pleasantly surprised  :devil:

Do vex nah... I is ah TnT foot ball fan since liquid form... I learn from young how to have high expectations for meh team...  :beermug:


  I only on kicks, too, Padnah, doh take it de wrong way. (Yuh really tink I believe is a typo Small Mag make?!)  :devil:

  I only givin yuh jones 'cause yuh is a certified, manu card-carrier.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 12, 2010, 01:34:50 PM

He eh talkin' no mess at all. jed. Whatever the glazers do with the team's profits is not the fans' concern as long as they invest a reasonable amount of money into the team to keep it going as normal.

First of all that's crap...Secondly one could argue that they didn't invest enough of the profits into the team to "keep it going as normal" (maybe they didn't even turn enough of a profit to support their massive cost structure/overhead...ask yourself why?) hence the reason they had to rely on so much debt financing and the fire sale of expensive players to remain healthy and liquid...

The fans are buying into the team but they not buying the team. Once the money leave their hands, whatever they spend it on, it's no longer theirs and there is no agreement to claim any amount of ownership for any team in return for money spent in pursuit of entertainment.  

With all due respect Mango, you can't be serious with this statement...First of all consumers don't need an agreement with the business sector on profit allocation in order to have an opinion on the use of funds and financial management of a business with which they have a vested interest.  Iz not like they asking for their money back, and they not claiming any ownership.  What are you talking about?  They're asking that the Glazers to take more of a footballing interest in the club- one that might be evidenced by less risky financing behavior and more prudent management, and possibly a greater presence at games.  That's something that is highly respected in the football world, all around not just at Man U.  One of the reasons that Chelsea fans love Abramovich is because he's actually a staunch Chelsea Supporter.  Man U fans don't feel the same way about the Glazers.  Football might be big business today, but some virtues of football club ownership have survived the decades of transformation from grassroots community based recreational clubs, to billion dollar sports and entertainment organizations...and these virtues are still given alot of value today all over the world.  An owner with an actuall footballing interest is one of them...and it is popular opinion that the Glazers are strictly business

The only return on the fans' investment that they should expect is an intangible one and that is the gratification of the team being a winning team.....with "history".  And any manu fan willing to make their voice be heard will gladly tell you the have that still to this day, long after their winning precedent had been set how many years ago and throughout the glazers' ownership.

That's not for YOU to decide

 manu is arguably the most popular (club) in the world, one of the wealthiest and one of the most profitable.  If AIG fall out the picture due to the world economy, another big corporation will fall right in to have their names on the front of that jersey.....wait nuh....ent dat done happen arready? Not to mention that if the glazers did decide to sell, they would pull a record-breaking price tag for the team.  Man, please.  All dem manu waggonists fussin' over nutting. This team eh folding over no time soon and the business template the the glazers using is no different from that of the previous owners  They just guilty of bringing in more debt and in a small part, by being american.  

If you don't think they have anything to worry about from a financial point of view, then ok...I don't know too much intricate details, but I want to agree that a club like Man U will be a financially healthy going-concern institution til the end of time.  I can't agree though that a fan who takes a deeper interest in the running of his club off the field is labeled a waggonist.  That's a baffling irony....I also can't agree that the consumer shouldn't have voice, based on standards that YOU (who has never walked a minute in their shoes) determine are appropriate from what is obviously a very biased point of view

Yuh bias ringing clear here dread...because alot of what you're saying either lacks any sort of compassion for an honest fan with reasonable intentions, or simply doesn't make sense. 


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
yuh cannot expect man on here to have the same intensity as them fans at the game or who reside in manchester or the uk or who actually at the games. When yuh call man rent boys here is jess not the same... cause we all waggonist...

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

i eh know where he get dis rent boys ting from, like daz how dey does cuss out each other on some of dem internet premiership supporter sites.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 01:41:01 PM
Kicker, I never tried to argue that their business model made good financial sense....if United were a real business, the fans should be very worried. Most other clubs would be in trouble. But if Man City and Chelsea are worthy of billionaire owners, then Man U have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 12, 2010, 01:47:57 PM
Kicker, I never tried to argue that their business model made good financial sense....if United were a real business, the fans should be very worried. Most other clubs would be in trouble. But if Man City and Chelsea are worthy of billionaire owners, then Man U have nothing to worry about.

I hear you, and I tend to agree with that.  But from what I understand, the fans aren't "worried" per se.  I don't think that Man U fans are predicting a financial collapse of their club.  They are protesting an ownership style that does not sync well with what they believe the club stands for- The risky methods of financing being just one indicator of the unsettling mismatch of interests.  Chelsea fans probably can't relate because at the end of the day Abramovic is a football man..and the fans love him because in addition to his massive pockets, they believe that he has the club's footballing interest at heart...evidenced largely by his presence at many games, and his emotional reactions to Chelsea's footballing fortunes.  Can you say the same about the Glazers?   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 02:33:23 PM
Kicker, I never tried to argue that their business model made good financial sense....if United were a real business, the fans should be very worried. Most other clubs would be in trouble. But if Man City and Chelsea are worthy of billionaire owners, then Man U have nothing to worry about.

I hear you, and I tend to agree with that.  But from what I understand, the fans aren't "worried" per se.  I don't think that Man U fans are predicting a financial collapse of their club.  They are protesting an ownership style that does not sync well with what they believe the club stands for- The risky methods of financing being just one indicator of the unsettling mismatch of interests.  Chelsea fans probably can't relate because at the end of the day Abramovic is a football man..and the fans love him because in addition to his massive pockets, they believe that he has the club's footballing interest at heart...evidenced largely by his presence at many games, and his emotional reactions to Chelsea's footballing fortunes.  Can you say the same about the Glazers?   

If Chelsea won the Champs League, the fans wouldnt care less if it was Bin Laden who owned de club, lol. I agree that there is probably a small proportion of those United fans who have thought this through and have genuine reasons for wanting the Glazers out...but the rest just liking de scarves and jumpin on a bandwagon dat sounds like a just cause.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 12, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
Kicker, I never tried to argue that their business model made good financial sense....if United were a real business, the fans should be very worried. Most other clubs would be in trouble. But if Man City and Chelsea are worthy of billionaire owners, then Man U have nothing to worry about.

I hear you, and I tend to agree with that.  But from what I understand, the fans aren't "worried" per se.  I don't think that Man U fans are predicting a financial collapse of their club.  They are protesting an ownership style that does not sync well with what they believe the club stands for- The risky methods of financing being just one indicator of the unsettling mismatch of interests.  Chelsea fans probably can't relate because at the end of the day Abramovic is a football man..and the fans love him because in addition to his massive pockets, they believe that he has the club's footballing interest at heart...evidenced largely by his presence at many games, and his emotional reactions to Chelsea's footballing fortunes.  Can you say the same about the Glazers?   

If Chelsea won the Champs League, the fans wouldnt care less if it was Bin Laden who owned de club, lol. I agree that there is probably a small proportion of those United fans who have thought this through and have genuine reasons for wanting the Glazers out...but the rest just liking de scarves and jumpin on a bandwagon dat sounds like a just cause.

lol arrite...kinda sounds like any movement to me though.

Wha bout I din' know the significance of the scarves at first and in the earlies when I see the setta green and yellow, I was beatin' up my head to make the connection between Man U & Brazil... ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 12, 2010, 04:15:45 PM
Kicker, I never tried to argue that their business model made good financial sense....if United were a real business, the fans should be very worried. Most other clubs would be in trouble. But if Man City and Chelsea are worthy of billionaire owners, then Man U have nothing to worry about.

I hear you, and I tend to agree with that.  But from what I understand, the fans aren't "worried" per se.  I don't think that Man U fans are predicting a financial collapse of their club.  They are protesting an ownership style that does not sync well with what they believe the club stands for- The risky methods of financing being just one indicator of the unsettling mismatch of interests.  Chelsea fans probably can't relate because at the end of the day Abramovic is a football man..and the fans love him because in addition to his massive pockets, they believe that he has the club's footballing interest at heart...evidenced largely by his presence at many games, and his emotional reactions to Chelsea's footballing fortunes.  Can you say the same about the Glazers?   

If Chelsea won the Champs League, the fans wouldnt care less if it was Bin Laden who owned de club, lol. I agree that there is probably a small proportion of those United fans who have thought this through and have genuine reasons for wanting the Glazers out...but the rest just liking de scarves and jumpin on a bandwagon dat sounds like a just cause.

lol arrite...kinda sounds like any movement to me though.

Wha bout I din' know the significance of the scarves at first and in the earlies when I see the setta green and yellow, I was beatin' up my head to make the connection between Man U & Brazil... ;D

The point about the Glazers is that Utd would have been successful without their presence at the club - the difference now is that the club is in massive debt whilst the Glazers siphon money that's been achieved on the backs of the club's name and the player's efforts - whilst they themselves have put in nothing of their own.

The plain fact of the matter is that the Glazers have put Utd in a worse position without actually contributing much to the team - the fact that they're American (and Americans were viewed warily even before all the recent scandals in their financial industry broke out) doesn't help their cause at all - nor their apparent disinterest in football in general.

Fans have been protesting the Glazer's being at Utd since they first took over, indeed even David Gill (who's the biggest joke of a cheerleader for the Glazers right now) said in an interview in regards to an initial Glazer approach at the time:-

Can you explain the reason why the Board have terminated discussions with the Glazer family?

"I think it is down to this simple reason: We have been looking at the proposals the Glazer family made, analysing them with our advisors, and the key aspect of that proposal was the level of debt they were going to use in order to make their offer. We felt as a Board that that level of debt, coupled with their business plan, meant it was an unattractive proposal. We’ve seen many examples of debt in football over the years and the difficulties it causes. We know what that means and we think that is inappropriate for this business. We need to have a sensible structure for the Board to take the club forward."

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=119193&page=1

Not really sure what's changed since then - only difference is that Gill likes his job and he didn't have much choice in the takeover with Utd unfortunately being a publicly traded company. Clearly no figurehead wants to come out and criticize the Glazers, even if they may feel otherwise, at least whilst the club is successful on the pitch (and/or they're under their employ). If the club was suffering on the pitch the voices of dissent would likely be much louder, and boycotts might actually have a chance of becoming reality.

The club is winning now though in spite of the Glazers, not because of them. Most were predicting a significant drop off by Utd this season, and perhaps even a steady decline out of the elite - Ferguson and Rooney have guided the team to the top of the table and a convincing place in the quarters of the CL despite not much recruitment after losing one of the best players in the world.

Many fans are only now beginning to realise the scale and scope of the financial position the Glazers have put the club in. Utd may never go under, but that's not the point - fans have a right to protest if the club is being used as a piggy bank by a bunch of fat cats. Ferguson may not complain because he's a football man - once he gets money when he feels he wants and can afford someone and the Glazers don't interfere with him - he's not going to care about the figures.

Fans may have been naive before, but it's better late than never to express a justified displeasure (even if it may be futile) - caring about your club to that extent is not a bad thing. I've supported Utd since I was 9 yrs old, before the first season of the Premier League - I've felt the passion of the fans both in neutral venues and at Old Trafford. The history of Utd and it's support deserves better than this - football may be a business, but the Glazers are running Utd along the lines of a shady Fortune 500 company.

The membership of MUST is now at 100,000 + (more than Utd's official membership scheme) - long may it continue :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 12, 2010, 04:29:42 PM
good informative post.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 12, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
Even though they have been skimming the club profits... what are they doing with the money cause the Buck's suck and they have not been spending money on that team also  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 12, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
Good post xixgon. 

I eh no Man U man, but from everything that I've heard about the club situation, the protests seem reasonable and very much par for the course. 

It's no pure coincidence that the two posters fighting down the protesting "waggonists" are Chelsea fans... ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 12, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
Yeah Utd may be a company on paper - but it's true owners are the fans. And maybe they have no actual say on what the Glazers should do with their money - but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't show their dissapproval of the current management if they feel they need to.

I don't know what Chelsea fans would do if their club was in the same situation - but I personally don't just care solely about the success of the team in footballing terms - I also care about how it's run.

I believe that fans should want the best for their club both on and off the pitch - both in the short-term and long-term. And I don't believe you're a 'waggonist' for supporting the green and gold & LUHG movement, just because you don't have the means to follow the team in person and you're not close enough to the machinations of the team to have been part of it from the beginning. Indeed it's generally the fans that have a serious interest in the team that know of it's significance and can explain its origin & their own personal gripe. It's the fly-by-nighters and casual supporters that either are either uncertain of the issue or just don't care much either way.
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 12, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
Yeah Utd may be a company on paper - but it's true owners are the fans. And maybe they have no actual say on what the Glazers should do with their money - but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't show their dissapproval of the current management if they feel they need to.

I don't know what Chelsea fans would do if their club was in the same situation - but I personally don't just care solely about the success of the team in footballing terms - I also care about how it's run.

I believe that fans should want the best for their club both on and off the pitch - both in the short-term and long-term. And I don't believe you're a 'waggonist' for supporting the green and gold & LUHG movement, just because you don't have the means to follow the team in person and you're not close enough to the machinations of the team to have been part of it from the beginning. Indeed it's generally the fans that have a serious interest in the team that know of it's significance and can explain its origin & their own personal gripe. It's the fly-by-nighters and casual supporters that either are either uncertain of the issue or just don't care much either way.
 

You don't have to explain your loyalty to those shithongs like elan dinho and company....but thanks for doing it so they can learn a thing from me and you about loyalty

LUHG
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 12, 2010, 06:04:21 PM
Even though they have been skimming the club profits... what are they doing with the money cause the Buck's suck and they have not been spending money on that team also  :-[

Yeah the Buccaneers isn't exactly a great example of their past 'endeavours' - but in fairness, the Buccs are not near the financial juggernaught and brandname that Utd are. The Glazers would have to be either insanely incompetent or greedy to take Utd to the administrators. The Glazers did put a fair amount of money into the Buccs in order to make them successful, but of course retaining success in the NFL is difficult, and after that one season they haven't done much since. This is a team that they had more of a vested emotional interest in - seeing as it's where they take residence (& a market they could proudly bask in the attention of) - and being a sport they actually seemed to be fans of. Utd conversely, is an ATM, nothing more nothing less - you maintain the ATM to make sure that it's working properly, u update it and expand it's programming - but at the end of the day it's still just a source of money to line your wallet.

I have to take up your point about Utd not having any world class defenders though - to me Evra is clearly world class (and indeed may be the best left back in the world - only Cole & perhaps Abidal have any other say in that). Vidic and Ferdinand are also world class to me when fit - and Utd has the best defense in England and one of the best in the world when it's first choice is together. That fact is the main reason that we've been so successful over the last few years -and hopefully it's what carries us home over the coming months (especially considering how many points we've already dropped due to the injuries there).

Our wingers may not be world class - but Valencia has been very good for us this year - and even Nani has shown signs of life. If Valencia continues to progress at this rate (especially if he gets even an adequate left foot), and Nani tightens up his game and becomes smarter on the field - then who knows.

Striking is definitely a dept that's up in the air though - investment likely needs to be made in the summertime - possibly in the central midfield and goalkeeping areas as well. Though I wouldn't be horribly dismayed if prices are still too high and youth instead is given a chance to flourish.





Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 12, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
I don't know what Chelsea fans would do if their club was in the same situation - but I personally don't just care solely about the success of the team in footballing terms - I also care about how it's run.

Why? Assuming dey eh going bust (which they aren't and will never do) why is it your (or anyone's) business how much money de club has as long as dey winning?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 12, 2010, 08:24:29 PM

He eh talkin' no mess at all. jed. Whatever the glazers do with the team's profits is not the fans' concern as long as they invest a reasonable amount of money into the team to keep it going as normal.

First of all that's crap...Secondly one could argue that they didn't invest enough of the profits into the team to "keep it going as normal" (maybe they didn't even turn enough of a profit to support their massive cost structure/overhead...ask yourself why?) hence the reason they had to rely on so much debt financing and the fire sale of expensive players to remain healthy and liquid...

So exactly how much money did they re-invest into the team to keep it going as normal, Padnah?
I eh hear nutting about the players not receiving their wages, having to provide their own training bibs and/or bringing pack lunches to training.  And wait nuh, selling cronaldo when he clearly wanted to go where more money was calling him is equivalent to a fire sale? Who else they sell that fit the category of "expensive players"?


The fans are buying into the team but they not buying the team. Once the money leave their hands, whatever they spend it on, it's no longer theirs and there is no agreement to claim any amount of ownership for any team in return for money spent in pursuit of entertainment.  

With all due respect Mango, you can't be serious with this statement...First of all consumers don't need an agreement with the business sector on profit allocation in order to have an opinion on the use of funds and financial management of a business with which they have a vested interest.  Iz not like they asking for their money back, and they not claiming any ownership.  What are you talking about?  They're asking that the Glazers to take more of a footballing interest in the club- one that might be evidenced by less risky financing behavior and more prudent management, and possibly a greater presence at games.  That's something that is highly respected in the football world, all around not just at Man U.  One of the reasons that Chelsea fans love Abramovich is because he's actually a staunch Chelsea Supporter.  Man U fans don't feel the same way about the Glazers.  Football might be big business today, but some virtues of football club ownership have survived the decades of transformation from grassroots community based recreational clubs, to billion dollar sports and entertainment organizations...and these virtues are still given alot of value today all over the world.  An owner with an actuall footballing interest is one of them...and it is popular opinion that the Glazers are strictly business

   ...and none of that has prevented manu from being the third richest football club (revenue) in the world.
Some may argue that, had it not been for the decrease in value in the British pound, they would have been number 1.  I coulda swear that the fans who crying out about the business dealings have been expressing more concern about the team turning profits than the glazers being in the stands. (and if you listen to the glazers, they attend more than their fair share of games.....where the fans probably don't make them feel welcomed anyway)

The only return on the fans' investment that they should expect is an intangible one and that is the gratification of the team being a winning team.....with "history".  And any manu fan willing to make their voice be heard will gladly tell you the have that still to this day, long after their winning precedent had been set how many years ago and throughout the glazers' ownership.

That's not for YOU to decide
Well, I guess at the end of the day, I don't place any more expectation on the owners of teams I support than to put a winning team on the field and I really don't see the practicality of placing my expectations any higher.  These owners tend to be already-wealthy business men and women that couldn't care less what the average fan really feels about the ownership, as long as that fan keeps spending his/her money on "the team".
At the end of the season, all we get rewarded for our loyalty is a thanks for our support and increased prices in all things "team" from the gate to the concession stand to the merchandising store.


 manu is arguably the most popular (club) in the world, one of the wealthiest and one of the most profitable.  If AIG fall out the picture due to the world economy, another big corporation will fall right in to have their names on the front of that jersey.....wait nuh....ent dat done happen arready? Not to mention that if the glazers did decide to sell, they would pull a record-breaking price tag for the team.  Man, please.  All dem manu waggonists fussin' over nutting. This team eh folding over no time soon and the business template the the glazers using is no different from that of the previous owners  They just guilty of bringing in more debt and in a small part, by being american.  

If you don't think they have anything to worry about from a financial point of view, then ok...I don't know too much intricate details, but I want to agree that a club like Man U will be a financially healthy going-concern institution til the end of time.  I can't agree though that a fan who takes a deeper interest in the running of his club off the field is labeled a waggonist.  That's a baffling irony....I also can't agree that the consumer shouldn't have voice, based on standards that YOU (who has never walked a minute in their shoes) determine are appropriate from what is obviously a very biased point of view

Jed, I doh have to walk a nanosecond in anybody shoes.  I walk in my own.  At the end of the day, I am no more or less passionate about this sport and my (many) teams than the next man or woman and I have my reasons for affiliating with any team just as the the next person has theirs.  The "waggonists" talk is purely for purposes of talkin' shit on this forum jed and you takin' it a little too personal on their behalf. "Don't take medicine for other people belly ache." 

Yuh bias ringing clear here dread...because alot of what you're saying either lacks any sort of compassion for an honest fan with reasonable intentions, or simply doesn't make sense. 




  Yuh getting tie-up, Kicker.  My opinion has everything to do with perspective and nothing to do with bias.  At the end of the day, my reasonable intention is to see my team go out and perform and (hopefully) win games and titles. (and see John Obi Mikel be given a more attacking role as a midfielder)  How much more reasonable do my intentions need to be than that?  Aren't I spending money and investing my emotions into teams like everybody else?  What makes you or Small Mag or DieHard or some manu supporter in Taiwan or Australia or Manchester more "honest" a fan than me?   You think when I saw my first F.A. Cup final I had any idea about who the owners of either team were and what their profit margins were?   I just refuse to let backroom-boardroom business shift my focus.  At the end of the day, manu is now, and always be an apex predator when it comes to generating income to cover their costs.  Some of their fans' worry that the team will suddenly be relegated to bottom-feeder status is just more worry over nothing.  If the team start (really) losing more and more money and winning less and less titles or making less UEFA appearances, and becoming less and less popular, then is time to worry.  The glazers and more owners will come and go.  manu is still going to be manu.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 13, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
I don't know what Chelsea fans would do if their club was in the same situation - but I personally don't just care solely about the success of the team in footballing terms - I also care about how it's run.

Why? Assuming dey eh going bust (which they aren't and will never do) why is it your (or anyone's) business how much money de club has as long as dey winning?

Haha clearly u eh ready my first post, so I eh go bother again na :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 13, 2010, 11:20:13 AM

So exactly how much money did they re-invest into the team to keep it going as normal, Padnah?
I eh hear nutting about the players not receiving their wages, having to provide their own training bibs and/or bringing pack lunches to training.  And wait nuh, selling cronaldo when he clearly wanted to go where more money was calling him is equivalent to a fire sale? Who else they sell that fit the category of "expensive players"?

Yuh displaying a very limited understanding of business and financing.  Just because players all got paid doesn't mean that their balance sheet is carrying alot of risk- in fact their players could have possibly been fully paid using borrowed funds...what's your point?  I agree the sale of Ronaldo wasn't technically a fire sale, but if, as some allude to, the proceeds from the sale were necessary to keep the club liquid in its current state, then it's not too far away.

   ...and none of that has prevented manu from being the third richest football club (revenue) in the world.

Revenue is the top line....says nothing about everything that follows in the P&L...Says nothing about profit...and it says nothing about balance sheet debt.

Well, I guess at the end of the day, I don't place any more expectation on the owners of teams I support than to put a winning team on the field and I really don't see the practicality of placing my expectations any higher.  These owners tend to be already-wealthy business men and women that couldn't care less what the average fan really feels about the ownership, as long as that fan keeps spending his/her money on "the team".
At the end of the season, all we get rewarded for our loyalty is a thanks for our support and increased prices in all things "team" from the gate to the concession stand to the merchandising store.

Like I say, that's YOU....not everything else.

Jed, I doh have to walk a nanosecond in anybody shoes.  I walk in my own.  At the end of the day, I am no more or less passionate about this sport and my (many) teams than the next man or woman and I have my reasons for affiliating with any team just as the the next person has theirs.  The "waggonists" talk is purely for purposes of talkin' shit on this forum jed and you takin' it a little too personal on their behalf. "Don't take medicine for other people belly ache." 

Ok- that's the bias I'm talking about...

  Yuh getting tie-up, Kicker.  My opinion has everything to do with perspective and nothing to do with bias. 


That doesn't make sense.  If your opinion has EVERYTHING to do with perspective (yours of course unless you feel you could talk for everybody), then there's no way it can have NOTHING to do with bias.

Anyhow, I understand your point of view, but I think you're using your personal point of view and applying it to a mass of people, many of whom have a strong emotional connection to a club that you cannot realistically relate to....on top of which, you're choosing to class them as waggonists (i.e. being judgmenta- picong or not).  I also think you're missing the point of the protest.  If the club supporters disagree with management style as far as risky financing, and a "strictly business" approach, I think they have all right to say how they feel (unless the Man U business formula is the ONLY formula for success of the field)..... regardless of whether or not YOU know that Man U will be financially healthy in the indefinite future.  It's not the point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 13, 2010, 01:09:21 PM

So exactly how much money did they re-invest into the team to keep it going as normal, Padnah?
I eh hear nutting about the players not receiving their wages, having to provide their own training bibs and/or bringing pack lunches to training.  And wait nuh, selling cronaldo when he clearly wanted to go where more money was calling him is equivalent to a fire sale? Who else they sell that fit the category of "expensive players"?

Yuh displaying a very limited understanding of business and financing.  Just because players all got paid doesn't mean that their balance sheet is carrying alot of risk- in fact their players could have possibly been fully paid using borrowed funds...what's your point?  I agree the sale of Ronaldo wasn't technically a fire sale, but if, as some allude to, the proceeds from the sale were necessary to keep the club liquid in its current state, then it's not too far away.
  I am not an econ major like you, Padnah but common sense tells me to expect for there to be some degree of "risk" in any so-called business venture.  I'm sure the glazers, going in to this venture, assumed there would be lots of risk involved.....but I'm willing to bet that they saw an opportunity to use a profitable venture that is the manu machine, to wipe out some, if not all of their own debts.  I'm quite sure, with my limited knowledge, that the glazers are going to wheel, deal, restructure, re-finance and do whatever they have to, to keep this team doing what it does on the pitch and in their coffers, all in the name of gradually erasing the debt they saddled the club with. But exactly how close is this impending fire sale? Because this is one team I would love to see go into administration.......in MY lifetime
 

  ...and none of that has prevented manu from being the third richest football club (revenue) in the world.

Revenue is the top line....says nothing about everything that follows in the P&L...Says nothing about profit...and it says nothing about balance sheet debt.
  ....there are very few businesses that have recorded profits 100% of the time or haven't ridden out their debts to eventually turn profits

Well, I guess at the end of the day, I don't place any more expectation on the owners of teams I support than to put a winning team on the field and I really don't see the practicality of placing my expectations any higher.  These owners tend to be already-wealthy business men and women that couldn't care less what the average fan really feels about the ownership, as long as that fan keeps spending his/her money on "the team".
At the end of the season, all we get rewarded for our loyalty is a thanks for our support and increased prices in all things "team" from the gate to the concession stand to the merchandising store.

Like I say, that's YOU....not everything else.  Show me teams that do otherwise.

Jed, I doh have to walk a nanosecond in anybody shoes.  I walk in my own.  At the end of the day, I am no more or less passionate about this sport and my (many) teams than the next man or woman and I have my reasons for affiliating with any team just as the the next person has theirs.  The "waggonists" talk is purely for purposes of talkin' shit on this forum jed and you takin' it a little too personal on their behalf. "Don't take medicine for other people belly ache." 

Ok- that's the bias I'm talking about... That makes us all biased.

  Yuh getting tie-up, Kicker.  My opinion has everything to do with perspective and nothing to do with bias. 


That's sort of a dunce statement.  If your opinion has EVERYTHING to do with perspective (yours of course unless you feel you could talk for everybody), then there's no way it can have NOTHING to do with bias.

No, professor, my use of the word "perspective" has everything to do with "keeping things in perspective"  jed not to just seeing things MY way or professing to speaking for anybody else...it is about not worrying about a catastrophic thunderstorm at every sign of a dark cloud.  Two seasons ago the naysayers were "alluding to" Chelsea going into deep doo-doo "if" Abramovic pulled out and Chelsea were reporting losses then, building a new training facility and  etc., etc., etc....But it doesn't take the economic scholar that you are to see what success ON the pitch, does for a popular team off it.  It was quite obvious that the glazers were always going to do with this team just what they are doing now and all the protests in the world weren't and aren't going to stop them. The team is still finding ways to win and all that does is generate even more and more revenue, which will help erase more and more of their  (glazers') debts.     

 
Anyhow, I understand your point of view, but I think you're using your personal point of view and applying it to a mass of people, many of whom have a strong emotional connection to a club that you cannot realistically relate to....on top of which, you're choosing to class them as waggonists (i.e. being judgmenta- picong or not).  I also think you're missing the point of the protest.  If the club supporters disagree with management style as far as risky financing, and a "strictly business" approach, I think they have all right to say how they feel (unless the Man U business formula is the ONLY formula for success of the field)..... regardless of whether or not YOU know that Man U will be financially healthy in the indefinite future.  It's not the point.

  I really don't see where I referred to any mass of people as waggonists and I have no idea where or why you are reading into that.  I think you takin' the waggonist talk to places I've never been.
   I never said or implied that the manu fans the world over, but especially the ones in their city, don't have the right to voice their displeasure.  I just think they are wasting their time and I am certainly entitled to have and express that opinion, just as you are entitled to disagree with me.  Time and history are always better judges than you or I, or a million and one manu fans.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on March 13, 2010, 05:01:33 PM
I think you missing a few pieces of the puzzle chow. I too thought that the Glazers would be using profit to clear debt but they haven't. You might not consider that a fan's problem but it is bcause money that could be invested in the club is not.

Furthermore something that armchair fans will not feel but the scarf wearing stadium going protesters do feel is the huge spike in ticket prices. United went from being the best value for money in the league with middle of the pack ticket prices to being right up there with the London clubs. A 50% increase in 4 years.

Everybody else complains about high prices and taxes and how those funds are used so why not fans. In a very real sense the money from those increases have been siphoned directly by the Glazers, the interest and the numerous refinancing costs incurred by the Glazers since the team investment has not increased by 50%.

But the real concern is the future. I expect that things will be fine but if the Glazers hit a rough patch and sell under duress the fans will be at the whims of another unknown owner. It could be an Abramovich or it could be one of the pretenders like Portsmouth get saddled with. Much better for the fans to exert some pressure and try to have a say in the direction of the club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 13, 2010, 07:20:24 PM
To add to what others have been saying... consider that previous owners John Magnier and J.P. Mc-whathename bought the club out from under Murdoch and made clear their intentions to use it as purely an investment, yet lacked the leverage to exercise total unilateral control of the team.  Their stake was just north of 30% at the time while Shareholders United (the present MUST) exercised a 17% stake.  Now come the Glazers who purchass not just a controlling interest, but systematically buy up 90% (it may be more now) of the outstanding shares, disenfranchising the very fans who today are leading the protests.  This explains in part the emotional response to the Glazers ownership.

While there is nothing fiscally unsound about degree of control exercised by the Glazers, the manner in which they financed that purchase is what is of concern to not only ManU fans, but indeed many football people in England.  Don't think that what has befallen Leeds and Portsmouth (and what almost happened to City) is that far-fetched from happening on the other side of Manchester.  When Magnier and McManus sold their stake the club owed not a penny.  The sale to the Glazers came with an immediate debt-load of $675 billion dollars.  Nearly 5 years later that debt still hovers around $700 million dollars today.  So here you have a club which historically has been not only one of the most successful, but also most prudently-run organizations in the world, forget football, forget England.... best-run in the world, when you factor in not only profitability, but consider the tremendous cache of the ManU brand... now being saddled with a shit load of debt.

Today that brand may be no more diminished than it was under previous ownership, and indeed there has been no drop off in productivity on the field as well, but ManU supporters don't have to look very far to be reminded of just how calamitous spendthrift investing can be.  AIG had long been the milestone by which every insurance company the world over measured itself.  Many don't realize it but AIG has had very successful tentacles even in TnT... does the name ALGICO ring a bell?  ALGICO is but one of several global subsidiaries of this once formiddable giant.  The star in the AIG crown had long been AIG's Asian subsidiary (AIA)... which just two weeks ago was jettisoned in a fire sale for $35.5 bn.  Another valuable sub- ALICO (note, not ALGICO) was sold over the weekend to MetLife for another $15.5 bn.

Well "what does this have to do with anything?" you ask... it has a lot.  It stands for the principle that when you owe money your creditors are only going to concern themselves with the bottomline, either turning a profit or recouping as much of the debt owed even if that means taking a hit in the pocket so as to stanch the financial bleeding.  The ManU. debt has yet to be reduced under the Glazers and in fact it has instead grown.  This means that whatever profit the club has turned over the past 4 years has either been reinvested into player salary or operating costs... or alternatively has been siphoned out of the organizations by the Glazers.  ManU. has never before had issues making payroll or operating costs... so smart money is that the profits were taken out of the club rather than being directed towards buying talent or paying club-related costs.  I don't know much about the health of the Glazers other businesses... but I bet the current picture isn't rosy.  Their empire was was built on the shopping mall business, and one can only assume that with the global retrenchment in commercial real estate that they took some lumps there as well.

The Bucs have historically been one of the worst-run franchises, under Hugh Culverhouse before them, but definitely under the Glazers since they purchased the team.  They hired Tony Dungy who was then defensive coordinator of the Steelers and made him their head coach... and under his guide, invested strongly in defense.  That defensive-minded team progressed rapidly under Dungy, going from floormats to perennial division winners.  To make the story short, they fired Dungy in 2000 and brought in John Gruden... who promptly won a SuperBowl with Dungy's team... and failed to do much otherwise in his 7 or 8 years at the helm.... why? Because all of the aging stars on defense got old and the team was too cheap to replenish talent as it either aged or left via free agency.  If the club isn't struggling, they can't be doing that well either, not with all that losing, and having to compete in a small TV market at that.

So it's not a reach to presume that money was siphoned out of ManU. to pay down the private losses of the Glazers elsewhere.  Putting this picture all together, there is nothing stopping the Glazers from running ManU. into the ground by continuing to take money out of the club... all they have to do is decide at some point to sell, walk away with their moneybags filled at Old Trafford, ship them back to Tampa and leave the club saddled with debt.  Sure new ownership may step up... or its creditors just might step in and take control of the team. Either scenario is worrisome to fans who in addition to a good product on the field, would like to have stable, committed ownership... something which they don't really have at this moment.  The Glazers are not football people and little is known about their long-term interest in the club.  Whomever succeeds them may likewise be only motivated by profit and may provide more stability at the helm, as well as they may not.  Fans are rightfully concerned about the direction all of this has taken, and it is beyond naive to suggest that they ought to just focus on what is happening on the field.  There is such a thing as fool's gold... Lehman Brothers was profitable right up until the very end... or so it seemed.  It only just materialized a few days ago that the true financial picture was hidden from auditors for the better part of two years before the 158-year old investment giant imploded in September 2008.  The lessons about the perils of floating large leveraged debt have been laid bare for all to see.  But as the saying goes, none so blind as those who will not see.

As a Liverpool fan I'm just as concerned as the ManU. supporters... except our position is much more dire.  I could never match the passion of some on this board, let alone those following in the stands and in the trenches in England. Some of that is natural, some of it is a conscious decision borne of personal lessons learned about getting too passionate about sports.  Anyways, sorry for the book, but much of this was pure stream of conscious and I really ent take time to edit, proofread and all ah dat.  I understand why MUST and its supporters are concerned and think the protests a justified response to their frustrations.  Futile as it must seem, this slap in the face of the Glazers should in the least bring a measure of shame to them if they have any decency at all.  Maybe they don't, and it won't... who knows.

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 13, 2010, 07:48:34 PM
To add to what others have been saying... consider that previous owners John Magnier and J.P. Mc-whathename bought the club out from under Murdoch and made clear their intentions to use it as purely an investment, yet lacked the leverage to exercise total unilateral control of the team.  Their stake was just north of 30% at the time while Shareholders United (the present MUST) exercised a 17% stake.  Now come the Glazers who purchass not just a controlling interest, but systematically buy up 90% (it may be more now) of the outstanding shares, disenfranchising the very fans who today are leading the protests.  This explains in part the emotional response to the Glazers ownership.

While there is nothing fiscally unsound about degree of control exercised by the Glazers, the manner in which they financed that purchase is what is of concern to not only ManU fans, but indeed many football people in England.  Don't think that what has befallen Leeds and Portsmouth (and what almost happened to City) is that far-fetched from happening on the other side of Manchester.  When Magnier and McManus sold their stake the club owed not a penny.  The sale to the Glazers came with an immediate debt-load of $675 billion dollars.  Nearly 5 years later that debt still hovers around $700 million dollars today.  So here you have a club which historically has been not only one of the most successful, but also most prudently-run organizations in the world, forget football, forget England.... best-run in the world, when you factor in not only profitability, but consider the tremendous cache of the ManU brand... now being saddled with a shit load of debt.

Today that brand may be no more diminished than it was under previous ownership, and indeed there has been no drop off in productivity on the field as well, but ManU supporters don't have to look very far to be reminded of just how calamitous spendthrift investing can be.  AIG had long been the milestone by which every insurance company the world over measured itself.  Many don't realize it but AIG has had very successful tentacles even in TnT... does the name ALGICO ring a bell?  ALGICO is but one of several global subsidiaries of this once formiddable giant.  The star in the AIG crown had long been AIG's Asian subsidiary (AIA)... which just two weeks ago was jettisoned in a fire sale for $35.5 bn.  Another valuable sub- ALICO (note, not ALGICO) was sold over the weekend to MetLife for another $15.5 bn.

Well "what does this have to do with anything?" you ask... it has a lot.  It stands for the principle that when you owe money your creditors are only going to concern themselves with the bottomline, either turning a profit or recouping as much of the debt owed even if that means taking a hit in the pocket so as to stanch the financial bleeding.  The ManU. debt has yet to be reduced under the Glazers and in fact it has instead grown.  This means that whatever profit the club has turned over the past 4 years has either been reinvested into player salary or operating costs... or alternatively has been siphoned out of the organizations by the Glazers.  ManU. has never before had issues making payroll or operating costs... so smart money is that the profits were taken out of the club rather than being directed towards buying talent or paying club-related costs.  I don't know much about the health of the Glazers other businesses... but I bet the current picture isn't rosy.  Their empire was was built on the shopping mall business, and one can only assume that with the global retrenchment in commercial real estate that they took some lumps there as well.

The Bucs have historically been one of the worst-run franchises, under Hugh Culverhouse before them, but definitely under the Glazers since they purchased the team.  They hired Tony Dungy who was then defensive coordinator of the Steelers and made him their head coach... and under his guide, invested strongly in defense.  That defensive-minded team progressed rapidly under Dungy, going from floormats to perennial division winners.  To make the story short, they fired Dungy in 2000 and brought in John Gruden... who promptly won a SuperBowl with Dungy's team... and failed to do much otherwise in his 7 or 8 years at the helm.... why? Because all of the aging stars on defense got old and the team was too cheap to replenish talent as it either aged or left via free agency.  If the club isn't struggling, they can't be doing that well either, not with all that losing, and having to compete in a small TV market at that.

So it's not a reach to presume that money was siphoned out of ManU. to pay down the private losses of the Glazers elsewhere.  Putting this picture all together, there is nothing stopping the Glazers from running ManU. into the ground by continuing to take money out of the club... all they have to do is decide at some point to sell, walk away with their moneybags filled at Old Trafford, ship them back to Tampa and leave the club saddled with debt.  Sure new ownership may step up... or its creditors just might step in and take control of the team. Either scenario is worrisome to fans who in addition to a good product on the field, would like to have stable, committed ownership... something which they don't really have at this moment.  The Glazers are not football people and little is known about their long-term interest in the club.  Whomever succeeds them may likewise be only motivated by profit and may provide more stability at the helm, as well as they may not.  Fans are rightfully concerned about the direction all of this has taken, and it is beyond naive to suggest that they ought to just focus on what is happening on the field.  There is such a thing as fool's gold... Lehman Brothers was profitable right up until the very end... or so it seemed.  It only just materialized a few days ago that the true financial picture was hidden from auditors for the better part of two years before the 158-year old investment giant imploded in September 2008.  The lessons about the perils of floating large leveraged debt have been laid bare for all to see.  But as the saying goes, none so blind as those who will not see.

As a Liverpool fan I'm just as concerned as the ManU. supporters... except our position is much more dire.  I could never match the passion of some on this board, let alone those following in the stands and in the trenches in England. Some of that is natural, some of it is a conscious decision borne of personal lessons learned about getting too passionate about sports.  Anyways, sorry for the book, but much of this was pure stream of conscious and I really ent take time to edit, proofread and all ah dat.  I understand why MUST and its supporters are concerned and think the protests a justified response to their frustrations.  Futile as it must seem, this slap in the face of the Glazers should in the least bring a measure of shame to them if they have any decency at all.  Maybe they don't, and it won't... who knows.

 


Great Post.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
i love my team  :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 14, 2010, 09:25:05 AM
i love my team  :)

oh so much  ;D

3-0 FT... some beautiful football in the second half

Wazza with 2 and Berbawesome with the other

2nd goal was amazing play from Berba...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 14, 2010, 09:39:49 AM
To add to what others have been saying... consider that previous owners John Magnier and J.P. Mc-whathename bought the club out from under Murdoch and made clear their intentions to use it as purely an investment, yet lacked the leverage to exercise total unilateral control of the team.  Their stake was just north of 30% at the time while Shareholders United (the present MUST) exercised a 17% stake.  Now come the Glazers who purchass not just a controlling interest, but systematically buy up 90% (it may be more now) of the outstanding shares, disenfranchising the very fans who today are leading the protests.  This explains in part the emotional response to the Glazers ownership.

While there is nothing fiscally unsound about degree of control exercised by the Glazers, the manner in which they financed that purchase is what is of concern to not only ManU fans, but indeed many football people in England.  Don't think that what has befallen Leeds and Portsmouth (and what almost happened to City) is that far-fetched from happening on the other side of Manchester.  When Magnier and McManus sold their stake the club owed not a penny.  The sale to the Glazers came with an immediate debt-load of $675 billion dollars.  Nearly 5 years later that debt still hovers around $700 million dollars today.  So here you have a club which historically has been not only one of the most successful, but also most prudently-run organizations in the world, forget football, forget England.... best-run in the world, when you factor in not only profitability, but consider the tremendous cache of the ManU brand... now being saddled with a shit load of debt.

Today that brand may be no more diminished than it was under previous ownership, and indeed there has been no drop off in productivity on the field as well, but ManU supporters don't have to look very far to be reminded of just how calamitous spendthrift investing can be.  AIG had long been the milestone by which every insurance company the world over measured itself.  Many don't realize it but AIG has had very successful tentacles even in TnT... does the name ALGICO ring a bell?  ALGICO is but one of several global subsidiaries of this once formiddable giant.  The star in the AIG crown had long been AIG's Asian subsidiary (AIA)... which just two weeks ago was jettisoned in a fire sale for $35.5 bn.  Another valuable sub- ALICO (note, not ALGICO) was sold over the weekend to MetLife for another $15.5 bn.

Well "what does this have to do with anything?" you ask... it has a lot.  It stands for the principle that when you owe money your creditors are only going to concern themselves with the bottomline, either turning a profit or recouping as much of the debt owed even if that means taking a hit in the pocket so as to stanch the financial bleeding.  The ManU. debt has yet to be reduced under the Glazers and in fact it has instead grown.  This means that whatever profit the club has turned over the past 4 years has either been reinvested into player salary or operating costs... or alternatively has been siphoned out of the organizations by the Glazers.  ManU. has never before had issues making payroll or operating costs... so smart money is that the profits were taken out of the club rather than being directed towards buying talent or paying club-related costs.  I don't know much about the health of the Glazers other businesses... but I bet the current picture isn't rosy.  Their empire was was built on the shopping mall business, and one can only assume that with the global retrenchment in commercial real estate that they took some lumps there as well.

The Bucs have historically been one of the worst-run franchises, under Hugh Culverhouse before them, but definitely under the Glazers since they purchased the team.  They hired Tony Dungy who was then defensive coordinator of the Steelers and made him their head coach... and under his guide, invested strongly in defense.  That defensive-minded team progressed rapidly under Dungy, going from floormats to perennial division winners.  To make the story short, they fired Dungy in 2000 and brought in John Gruden... who promptly won a SuperBowl with Dungy's team... and failed to do much otherwise in his 7 or 8 years at the helm.... why? Because all of the aging stars on defense got old and the team was too cheap to replenish talent as it either aged or left via free agency.  If the club isn't struggling, they can't be doing that well either, not with all that losing, and having to compete in a small TV market at that.

So it's not a reach to presume that money was siphoned out of ManU. to pay down the private losses of the Glazers elsewhere.  Putting this picture all together, there is nothing stopping the Glazers from running ManU. into the ground by continuing to take money out of the club... all they have to do is decide at some point to sell, walk away with their moneybags filled at Old Trafford, ship them back to Tampa and leave the club saddled with debt.  Sure new ownership may step up... or its creditors just might step in and take control of the team. Either scenario is worrisome to fans who in addition to a good product on the field, would like to have stable, committed ownership... something which they don't really have at this moment.  The Glazers are not football people and little is known about their long-term interest in the club.  Whomever succeeds them may likewise be only motivated by profit and may provide more stability at the helm, as well as they may not.  Fans are rightfully concerned about the direction all of this has taken, and it is beyond naive to suggest that they ought to just focus on what is happening on the field.  There is such a thing as fool's gold... Lehman Brothers was profitable right up until the very end... or so it seemed.  It only just materialized a few days ago that the true financial picture was hidden from auditors for the better part of two years before the 158-year old investment giant imploded in September 2008.  The lessons about the perils of floating large leveraged debt have been laid bare for all to see.  But as the saying goes, none so blind as those who will not see.

As a Liverpool fan I'm just as concerned as the ManU. supporters... except our position is much more dire.  I could never match the passion of some on this board, let alone those following in the stands and in the trenches in England. Some of that is natural, some of it is a conscious decision borne of personal lessons learned about getting too passionate about sports.  Anyways, sorry for the book, but much of this was pure stream of conscious and I really ent take time to edit, proofread and all ah dat.  I understand why MUST and its supporters are concerned and think the protests a justified response to their frustrations.  Futile as it must seem, this slap in the face of the Glazers should in the least bring a measure of shame to them if they have any decency at all.  Maybe they don't, and it won't... who knows.

 

Thanks for de insite.... yuh come outta hibernation... ah guess the north east finally melting eh...!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 14, 2010, 11:53:03 AM
I think you missing a few pieces of the puzzle chow. I too thought that the Glazers would be using profit to clear debt but they haven't. You might not consider that a fan's problem but it is bcause money that could be invested in the club is not.

Furthermore something that armchair fans will not feel but the scarf wearing stadium going protesters do feel is the huge spike in ticket prices. United went from being the best value for money in the league with middle of the pack ticket prices to being right up there with the London clubs. A 50% increase in 4 years.

Everybody else complains about high prices and taxes and how those funds are used so why not fans. In a very real sense the money from those increases have been siphoned directly by the Glazers, the interest and the numerous refinancing costs incurred by the Glazers since the team investment has not increased by 50%.

But the real concern is the future. I expect that things will be fine but if the Glazers hit a rough patch and sell under duress the fans will be at the whims of another unknown owner. It could be an Abramovich or it could be one of the pretenders like Portsmouth get saddled with. Much better for the fans to exert some pressure and try to have a say in the direction of the club.

JDB, yes, I might be missing a few small pieces of the puzzle as far as certain details may go, but it's not keeping me from seeing the big picture. Remember, as I have stated before, I am not saying that the manu fans don't have the right to voice their protests.  I just think that their protests were before, are now and will be in the future, falling on (decidedly) deaf ears.  First let me get to what Kicker pointed out is the main focus of a balance sheet: THE BOTTOM LINE.  My bottom line in all of this healthy debate is, and I will quote you to re-express it, "...I expect that things will be fine..." with manchester united.  This team IS English football, along with Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, West Ham and maybe a few others (obviously, not necessarily in that order) but with the growing popularity and increasing revenue of the league and UEFA CL around the world and how much this team alone affects that......trust me, manu ain't going down like Portsmouth. In fact, I don't think they are going anywhere!  But even if  by snowball's chance they do, they will be right back up the following season like Juventus were and like Newcastle (another of England's top revenue teams) seems slated to be, come August.
  The manu fans were against the glazers' acquisition of this team from time their intent to buy was announced, right?  Right.  They started protesting, they threatened to boycott the team, yada, yada, yada. Every week, old trafford selling out. SRO. Glazers laughing all the way to the bank....and probably even collect a few yellow and green scarves of their own for posterity.
Amongst the litany of grievances they have against the glazers is that they don't really care about football...presumably, like other owners do....maybe even manu's previous owners? Well, if anybody really cared what the fans felt or was concerned that the glazers would just be buying the team for the opportunity to maybe siphon off profits and run manu into the ground they sure let one point something Billion ease their conscience.  I don't know what the procedure is for an entity to purchase an EPL team, but I would like to think that there must be some form of approval required form necessary parties entrusted with the care and best interests of the league, it's teams and maybe even, yes, the fans. Well, where was the concern for manu and their fans when the glazers were coming into this deal saddled with all this debt? It wasn't any secret then what their possible intentions could have been, right?  What happened?  The glazers got what they wanted and then some.  It's one "business" deal after another, Jed and there's nothing they can do to stop them.
 The next one try to proffer up that maybe the protesting would shame them....shame who? The time for the glazers to shame was when they were bringing all this debt to a highly profitable team.  No shame then, no shame now.  If the fans had to send a clear message, the time to do it would have been to really, actually boycott the games, especially at the beginning of the season, or at the insult of a 50% increase at the box office.  The attendance today was listed on Sky Sports as 75,207. Now, I know it's hard to just boycott games, but, unfortunately for all those voices making all this noise, the glazers know that too. Trust me, JDB, the glazers will continue to laugh all the way to the bank and manu will be fine.  They have every single right to shout and scream 'til their lungs collapse.  They are just wasting their time and energy. 
Respek, JDB.  :beermug:                  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 14, 2010, 05:16:46 PM
Rooney and Wazza and Giggsy and Scholsey and Berby and Fergie and Gary and who ever d phoq else is ah can ah worms.

Rooney this and Rooney that, hail the king. Not even in his dreams will Rooney ever be as good as the diminutive Argentinean. Hat-trick for Leo.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100314/i/r3156156787.jpg)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 14, 2010, 06:31:12 PM
Rooney and Wazza and Giggsy and Scholsey and Berby and Fergie and Gary and who ever d phoq else is ah can ah worms.

Rooney this and Rooney that, hail the king. Not even in his dreams will Rooney ever be as good as the diminutive Argentinean. Hat-trick for Leo.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100314/i/r3156156787.jpg)


buh WTF I does see here lol... Dry so, you just drink a keg a hatorade or what? :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2010, 06:34:21 PM
jealously
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 14, 2010, 06:45:21 PM
Rooney and Wazza and Giggsy and Scholsey and Berby and Fergie and Gary and who ever d phoq else is ah can ah worms.

Rooney this and Rooney that, hail the king. Not even in his dreams will Rooney ever be as good as the diminutive Argentinean. Hat-trick for Leo.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100314/i/r3156156787.jpg)



yo, what u doing up in the people and dem thread talking about overrated midgets that can't defend??  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 14, 2010, 07:53:16 PM
Rooney and Wazza and Giggsy and Scholsey and Berby and Fergie and Gary and who ever d phoq else is ah can ah worms.

Rooney this and Rooney that, hail the king. Not even in his dreams will Rooney ever be as good as the diminutive Argentinean. Hat-trick for Leo.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100314/i/r3156156787.jpg)



alla dem goals and allyuh still 2nd.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 14, 2010, 10:28:49 PM
Disgruntled when yuh get licks from yuh gyul doh come on we site and vent nah...... like yuh doh know dis is

www.manusocawarriors.net  know your place  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on March 15, 2010, 08:00:52 AM
Disgruntled when yuh get licks from yuh gyul doh come on we site and vent nah...... like yuh doh know dis is

www.manusocawarriors.net  know your place  :devil:

Doh worry, I know where I am.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/sig-1.jpg)



yo, what u doing up in the people and dem thread talking about overrated midgets that can't defend??  ::)


small thing

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 15, 2010, 08:59:15 AM

Doh worry, I know where I am.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/sig-1.jpg)


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

i eh go lie, this banner is a classic.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 16, 2010, 09:37:50 AM
Anybody see Gerrard's elbow yesterday?

Imagine the Referee post match said he would have taken no action therefore taking away the possibility of the FA imposing a ban....Even though I'm 100% sure the FA would have bottled it as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtksxQSNmYU

A week after doing his V sign gesture to a Ref which means f**k off... he was warned by the FA..no fine no ban... This week he does this and no fine no ban... but yet Rio got a 4 match ban for hitting out at Fagan vs Hull City and Gary Neville gets fined for excessive celebration

LOL what a joke

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 16, 2010, 04:20:34 PM
Anybody see Gerrard's elbow yesterday?

Imagine the Referee post match said he would have taken no action therefore taking away the possibility of the FA imposing a ban....Even though I'm 100% sure the FA would have bottled it as well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtksxQSNmYU


A week after doing his V sign gesture to a Ref which means f**k off... he was warned by the FA..no fine no ban... This week he does this and no fine no ban... but yet Rio got a 4 match ban for hitting out at Fagan vs Hull City and Gary Neville gets fined for excessive celebration

LOL what a joke



Haha you sound surprised. Gerrard is just part of a band of players that gets away with pretty much anyting dey do. The FA either applies double standards or misses incidents completely.

Any other player would be facing some kind of reprimand (the common man - jail) for Gerrard assault in the bar - yet Gerrard got off scot-free.

Ferdinand for one has always been made an example of by the authorities - he gets 8 months for missing a drug test - whilst Manchester City player Christian Negouai was fined 2,000 pounds for missing the test because of 'traffic'. Indeed the FA attempted to increase the ban even further to 12 months.

Indeed Mascherano did something almost identical to what Rio got banned for 4 games for this season - yet even after video review, faced no punishment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYpzicKdsU&fmt=18

Now I have no problem with players being punished both on and off the field for misconduct - but be consistent about it - don't be disproportionate and wily-nily. This is what makes if very difficult for fans to respect both the higher-ups and referees.

And this goes for Utd as well - for anyone that think I citing Ferdinand in bias - just be fair to everyone is all yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2010, 09:42:57 PM
Anybody see Gerrard's elbow yesterday?

Imagine the Referee post match said he would have taken no action therefore taking away the possibility of the FA imposing a ban....Even though I'm 100% sure the FA would have bottled it as well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtksxQSNmYU


A week after doing his V sign gesture to a Ref which means f**k off... he was warned by the FA..no fine no ban... This week he does this and no fine no ban... but yet Rio got a 4 match ban for hitting out at Fagan vs Hull City and Gary Neville gets fined for excessive celebration

LOL what a joke



Haha you sound surprised. Gerrard is just part of a band of players that gets away with pretty much anyting dey do. The FA either applies double standards or misses incidents completely.

Any other player would be facing some kind of reprimand (the common man - jail) for Gerrard assault in the bar - yet Gerrard got off scot-free.

Ferdinand for one has always been made an example of by the authorities - he gets 8 months for missing a drug test - whilst Manchester City player Christian Negouai was fined 2,000 pounds for missing the test because of 'traffic'. Indeed the FA attempted to increase the ban even further to 12 months.

Indeed Mascherano did something almost identical to what Rio got banned for 4 games for this season - yet even after video review, faced no punishment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYpzicKdsU&fmt=18

Now I have no problem with players being punished both on and off the field for misconduct - but be consistent about it - don't be disproportionate and wily-nily. This is what makes if very difficult for fans to respect both the higher-ups and referees.

And this goes for Utd as well - for anyone that think I citing Ferdinand in bias - just be fair to everyone is all yes.

steven gerrard could kill de pope and he would get away with it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 16, 2010, 10:00:38 PM
steven gerrard could kill de pope and he would get away with it.
and where can one hire this Gerrard fella to do this dastardly deed to "der Teufel" :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 17, 2010, 05:54:12 AM
steven gerrard could kill de pope and he would get away with it.
and where can one hire this Gerrard fella to do this dastardly deed to "der Teufel" :devil: :devil:

  Yuh could probably send an email to his agents: info@thefa.com
or go to their website: http://www.thefa.com (http://www.thefa.com)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 17, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
Anybody see Gerrard's elbow yesterday?

Imagine the Referee post match said he would have taken no action therefore taking away the possibility of the FA imposing a ban....Even though I'm 100% sure the FA would have bottled it as well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtksxQSNmYU


A week after doing his V sign gesture to a Ref which means f**k off... he was warned by the FA..no fine no ban... This week he does this and no fine no ban... but yet Rio got a 4 match ban for hitting out at Fagan vs Hull City and Gary Neville gets fined for excessive celebration

LOL what a joke



Haha you sound surprised. Gerrard is just part of a band of players that gets away with pretty much anyting dey do. The FA either applies double standards or misses incidents completely.

Any other player would be facing some kind of reprimand (the common man - jail) for Gerrard assault in the bar - yet Gerrard got off scot-free.

Ferdinand for one has always been made an example of by the authorities - he gets 8 months for missing a drug test - whilst Manchester City player Christian Negouai was fined 2,000 pounds for missing the test because of 'traffic'. Indeed the FA attempted to increase the ban even further to 12 months.

Indeed Mascherano did something almost identical to what Rio got banned for 4 games for this season - yet even after video review, faced no punishment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBYpzicKdsU&fmt=18

Now I have no problem with players being punished both on and off the field for misconduct - but be consistent about it - don't be disproportionate and wily-nily. This is what makes if very difficult for fans to respect both the higher-ups and referees.

And this goes for Utd as well - for anyone that think I citing Ferdinand in bias - just be fair to everyone is all yes.

steven gerrard could kill de pope and he would get away with it.


Haha well once he did it in England anyway.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 18, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJA4tsTl1n8&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 18, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Owen Hargreaves!

he's back!  he looked pretty sharp in his 45 minute run out today vs Burnley... not bad for a man out 18 months



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 18, 2010, 06:28:30 PM
finally, i hope he legs stay strong. he needs all the confidence he could get back
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 18, 2010, 06:50:10 PM
finally, i hope he legs stay strong. he needs all the confidence he could get back

bring him on in the 85th vs Liverpool..we'll be 4-0 up... he could make it 5

 ;D ;D

on a serious note...what a massive game this weekend..3 points and revenge please..should be a cracker
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 18, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
finally, i hope he legs stay strong. he needs all the confidence he could get back

bring him on in the 85th vs Liverpool..we'll be 4-0 up... he could make it 5

 ;D ;D

on a serious note...what a massive game this weekend..3 points and revenge please..should be a cracker


Yeah, crossing my fingers for him - he could add some needed depth for run-in if he's up for it - hopefully he can at least give Fletch a breather here an there.

Liverpool's semi-resurgence in the last few games just makes it all the more interesting. Hopefully we can put them back in their place.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 19, 2010, 07:42:06 PM


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=758121&sec=england&cc=3888


Sir Alex slams FA as Gerrard escapes again


By Soccernet staff

March 19, 2010

   
Sir Alex Ferguson has begun the war of words ahead of Sunday's Premier League showdown with Liverpool by accusing the Football Association's disciplinary panel of being "dysfunctional'' after Steven Gerrard escaped censure for the second time in a matter of weeks. It comes after Rio Ferdinand was forced to accept a three-match FA ban for throwing an arm at Hull City striker Craig Fagan off the ball. Ferdinand was then handed an extra one-match ban for what was deemed to be a "frivolous'' appeal.

But Gerrard has not been so unfortunate. First, he appeared to flick a V-sign in the direction of referee Andre Marriner as Liverpool lost at Wigan, and then the England international seemingly launched an elbow towards Portsmouth's Michael Brown on Monday. Gerrard will face no further action over either incident. Ferguson believes it smacks of double standards, with two players being treated completely differently for similar incidents.

"I didn't expect anything to happen to Steven Gerrard. It (the disciplinary panel) is a dysfunctional unit," he said. "I don't know what they are doing.''

Ferguson had already highlighted what he felt was a similar incident involving Javier Mascherano at Leeds during a Carling Cup tie earlier in the campaign.

"There is no consistency for a start and I didn't expect to get any,'' Ferguson added. "I am not too bothered about it. They can do what they want down there. It is crazy at times.''

Although he gave Rafael Benitez plenty of credit for masterminding Liverpool's challenge last term, the Scot always had a feeling it was the best that Reds team could manage.

"Sometimes you peak with a particular team and it is difficult to do it again,'' said Ferguson. "Everyone expected Liverpool to do better. But they are not. Their challenge, along with quite a few others, is to get that fourth spot, which seems to be a league of its own.''

Not that Ferguson's observations extend to any sympathy for Benitez, just an acknowledgement, in the week Phil Brown lost his job at Hull, that the management game is now a very tough one.

"The word sympathy is a bit strong,'' he said. "You feel for any manager who doesn't do well. Phil Brown was sacked during the week. Yet given the players and potential of his team, I am not sure anyone expected that Hull would be in anything other than a dog-fight this season.

"It happens every season. It is not something new.''

Ferguson certainly believes there will be no repeat of the 4-1 defeat United suffered at the hands of their old rivals in the corresponding game last term.

"Last season was a one-off,'' said Ferguson. "It won't happen again. I can assure you of that. Absolutely no chance. "Being on top of the league at this stage of this season would make us difficult to get back at. I don't place that much importance on the 19th title. The more important one would be the 20th. This club is capable of doing that. "We could also win four titles in a row. No-one will do that in a hurry. That is something to ponder on.''
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2010, 07:31:58 AM
game time  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 21, 2010, 07:39:33 AM
Torres!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 21, 2010, 07:44:10 AM
Crap Penalty, Ref Tiefin already
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 21, 2010, 07:45:13 AM
1-1 GAME ON!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2010, 08:46:01 AM
anyone have ah link that does not stop every few minutes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 21, 2010, 08:55:14 AM
http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ba6184988676
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2010, 09:16:35 AM
http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ba6184988676
Thanks

not one of the hengrish channels on myp2p wukken
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 21, 2010, 09:18:16 AM
United, Liverpool fans seeing red over US owners

By ROB HARRIS, AP Sports Writer 2 hours, 25 minutes ago


MANCHESTER, England (AP)—As the English Premier League’s fiercest foes prepare to battle on the pitch Sunday, supporters are united in a common hatred: American owners who have turned English soccer’s most successful clubs into the most indebted.

“Yanks Out” is likely to be the common refrain booming around the 76,000-seat Old Trafford on Sunday when Manchester United and Liverpool meet, while most of the home support will twirl green-and-gold protest scarves.

The protesters have even won government support, with Prime Minister Gordon Brown complaining that in soccer “debt levels have been at a leverage level that is too high.”

But United club secretary Ken Ramsden dismissed protests by both sets of fans, telling The Associated Press that it’s about soccer “played on the field, not in the board rooms.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on March 21, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
United, Liverpool fans seeing red over US owners
But United club secretary Ken Ramsden dismissed protests by both sets of fans, telling The Associated Press that it’s about soccer “played on the field, not in the board rooms.”
:rotfl: :rotfl:
ya see smoke screen
DAT is smoke screen fadda
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2010, 09:33:06 AM
2-1  back on top where we belong  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 21, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
On top again ....Glory Glory :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2010, 09:39:25 AM
Tough nerve racking game.... Great result..Great f**king result!

You Scouse Bastards!!

Get in!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 21, 2010, 10:03:14 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PARK YOU BASTARD!!!!!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 21, 2010, 07:09:20 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 21, 2010, 07:12:14 PM
havent seen that dude around in a long while he is M.I.A
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2010, 07:28:01 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

yeh went missing , Last Active: January 11, 2010.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 22, 2010, 08:13:05 AM
havent seen that dude around in a long while he is M.I.A

I believe that "dude" is a girl...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2010, 08:21:12 AM
havent seen that dude around in a long while he is M.I.A

I believe that "dude" is a girl...

u sure ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 22, 2010, 08:58:21 AM
havent seen that dude around in a long while he is M.I.A

I believe that "dude" is a girl...

what make u say that?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on March 22, 2010, 09:04:04 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PARK YOU BASTARD!!!!!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Park is one of the unsung heroes of not only ManU but the EPL. Talk about underrated
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 11:13:29 AM
1:30 KICK Off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 11:37:01 AM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 12:15:16 PM
 :devil: nice goal by Samuel  :devil:

or yeh Van der sar is a boss
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: theworm2345 on March 27, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
:devil: nice goal by Samuel  :devil:

or yeh Van der sar is a boss
Poor Jlloyd, he finally gets a chance in the side and he scores a horrific own goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 12:26:10 PM
:devil: nice goal by Samuel  :devil:

or yeh Van der sar is a boss

agree on both!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Kayus on March 27, 2010, 12:38:35 PM
and j.lloyd rockin de tnt wristbands strong too.  :( ah well, ish happens.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on March 27, 2010, 12:40:36 PM
and j.lloyd rockin de tnt wristbands strong too.  :( ah well, ish happens.

yea i saw d wristbands...is ah big look. does kenwyne do that too? sad he had to be d man to score d own goal f'real
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Kayus on March 27, 2010, 01:12:36 PM
beautiful goal!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
oh gaaad alyuh see berba second goal  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
4 nil win  ;D  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 27, 2010, 01:32:11 PM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!


Haha hos - Chelsea and Utd have exactly the same disciplinary record dis season (Yellows and Reds) so try an take it down na.

Also, a man da doh even know when his own side playin the most important game of they season shouldn't be commentin on other men teams na :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 27, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
Quality performance from a Quality team...

onto the biggest week of our season... should be great
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 27, 2010, 01:37:06 PM
Onto a crucial week now. Bayern try an rest Robben and Ribery, bring dem on at halftime - an still loss 2-1 at home to Stuttgart yes. Hopefully thas the same team tha shows up on Tuesday.


On an unrelated note Tosic scored a nice double against Hannover today - I hope dey bring him back nex season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6jzkEU7vWg&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 27, 2010, 01:47:37 PM
Onto a crucial week now. Bayern try an rest Robben and Ribery, bring dem on at halftime - an still loss 2-1 at home to Stuttgart yes. Hopefully thas the same team tha shows up on Tuesday.


On an unrelated note Tosic scored a nice double against Hannover today - I hope dey bring him back nex season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6jzkEU7vWg&fmt=18

Apparently Robben got injured..he's a massive doubt for Tuesday

And Tosic will be a big one..his composure on the ball is outstanding..smart and clever...His size and ability to settle in Manchester will hamper his chances but I still think he will be given a fair chance next season...Quality player..My favourite reserve lad..I always rate him up and my friends are like yea but he never plays..how do you know his quality?!

I just say one day boys..one day...

 He is quality... everytime he's played in pre season or carling cup games i've been impressed

You dont mess with the Zoran!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 02:06:29 PM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!


Haha hos - Chelsea and Utd have exactly the same disciplinary record dis season (Yellows and Reds) so try an take it down na.



Also, a man da doh even know when his own side playin the most important game of they season shouldn't be commentin on other men teams na :)

Freedom ah frickin' speech! :)

 

And I eh care 'bout no "statistics".  I could see wit meh own two eye allyuh side does play stink!  vidic wit he nasty self didn't get a yellow (or did the ref even call a foul?) fuh dah man head he buss wit he elbow today. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 27, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!


Haha hos - Chelsea and Utd have exactly the same disciplinary record dis season (Yellows and Reds) so try an take it down na.



Also, a man da doh even know when his own side playin the most important game of they season shouldn't be commentin on other men teams na :)

Freedom ah frickin' speech! :)

 

And I eh care 'bout no "statistics".  I could see wit meh own two eye allyuh side does play stink!  vidic wit he nasty self didn't get a yellow (or did the ref even call a foul?) fuh dah man head he buss wit he elbow today. 


Haha - dis from a man who ha men like Ballack, Mikel and Carvalho on his team - pot callin d kettle black yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 02:58:45 PM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!


Haha hos - Chelsea and Utd have exactly the same disciplinary record dis season (Yellows and Reds) so try an take it down na.



Also, a man da doh even know when his own side playin the most important game of they season shouldn't be commentin on other men teams na :)

Freedom ah frickin' speech! :)

 

And I eh care 'bout no "statistics".  I could see wit meh own two eye allyuh side does play stink!  vidic wit he nasty self didn't get a yellow (or did the ref even call a foul?) fuh dah man head he buss wit he elbow today. 


Haha - dis from a man who ha men like Ballack, Mikel and Carvalho on his team - pot callin d kettle black yes.

  Yes, the same man that does call Ballack a "thug", is me self.  In fact, I find Ballack should be playin fuh ALLYUH!! ;D  I does call it as I see it, padnah, whether is for or against my own side and I don't really see Mikel gettin' away wit nutting (ah certainly never see him buss no man head and get away with it, so if yuh have that "stat" please show it to meh).  He gets called for practically every foul he commits.   




**......and according to them same statistics it have two (2) manu players that are among the 25 most carded players so far this season.  vidic (name ring a bell?) and scholes  Nobody from Chelsea.**  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2010, 03:23:55 PM
player hater
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 27, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
player hater

  I don't hate real players.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 27, 2010, 05:14:23 PM
player hater

Haha, hadda be a Chelsea fan yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 27, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
1:30 KICK Off

   not even 60 seconds on de clock and the commentator saying: "...johnnie evans with the first bad challenge of the day..."....whether allyuh top of the league, second place, third, in de CL or win some dotish cup allyuh will never change allyuh thug style eh!


Haha hos - Chelsea and Utd have exactly the same disciplinary record dis season (Yellows and Reds) so try an take it down na.



Also, a man da doh even know when his own side playin the most important game of they season shouldn't be commentin on other men teams na :)

Freedom ah frickin' speech! :)

 

And I eh care 'bout no "statistics".  I could see wit meh own two eye allyuh side does play stink!  vidic wit he nasty self didn't get a yellow (or did the ref even call a foul?) fuh dah man head he buss wit he elbow today. 


Haha - dis from a man who ha men like Ballack, Mikel and Carvalho on his team - pot callin d kettle black yes.

u leave out Terry and Cashley cole
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on March 28, 2010, 06:55:26 AM
Crazy Jlloyd Samuel own-goal sets up Manchester United win
By Will Swanson (clicklancashire.com)


A remarkable own goal from Bolton Wanderers defender Jlloyd Samuel helped hand the points to Manchester United.

In the 38th minute with the score still at 0-0 Samuel managed to stroke the ball home as expertly as a seasoned striker to give United a lead they deserved on the balance of play.

Nani flicked a pass to Ryan Giggs whose ball into the box evaded Darren Fletcher and reached Samuel ten yards out. Instead of clearing the ball he instead rolled it past Jussi Jaaskelainen and into the far corner.

Bolton missed a fine chance to equalise but Edwin van der Sar produced a fine save from Fabrice Muamba.

After the break Dimitar Berbatov added a deserved second in the 69th minute. Darren Fletcher ran onto a superb Ryan Giggs pass before hitting a left-foot shot from 20 yards that Jussi Jaaskelainen can only parry into the path of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgarian slotting in from 10 yards.

The third arrived in the 78th minute when Nani marauded down the left and into the Bolton box, turned Sam Ricketts inside out and then rolled the ball along the six-yard box for Dimitar Berbatov to nonchalantly flick the ball into the net with the outside of his right foot.

In the 82nd minute Darron Gibson completed the scoring two minutes after coming on as a substitute planting a right-footed shot past Jussi Jaaskelainen from a Nani pass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 28, 2010, 10:51:11 AM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2010, 11:14:14 AM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

  Now yuh team back on top de league  ::) and de nonsense get more bearable?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 28, 2010, 11:29:08 AM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

  Now yuh team back on top de league  ::) and de nonsense get more bearable?  :devil:


Lol, I think stayin away helped. So I will continue to stay away.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 28, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
Crazy Jlloyd Samuel own-goal sets up Manchester United win
By Will Swanson (clicklancashire.com)


A remarkable own goal from Bolton Wanderers defender Jlloyd Samuel helped hand the points to Manchester United.

In the 38th minute with the score still at 0-0 Samuel managed to stroke the ball home as expertly as a seasoned striker to give United a lead they deserved on the balance of play.

Nani flicked a pass to Ryan Giggs whose ball into the box evaded Darren Fletcher and reached Samuel ten yards out. Instead of clearing the ball he instead rolled it past Jussi Jaaskelainen and into the far corner.

Bolton missed a fine chance to equalise but Edwin van der Sar produced a fine save from Fabrice Muamba.

After the break Dimitar Berbatov added a deserved second in the 69th minute. Darren Fletcher ran onto a superb Ryan Giggs pass before hitting a left-foot shot from 20 yards that Jussi Jaaskelainen can only parry into the path of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgarian slotting in from 10 yards.

The third arrived in the 78th minute when Nani marauded down the left and into the Bolton box, turned Sam Ricketts inside out and then rolled the ball along the six-yard box for Dimitar Berbatov to nonchalantly flick the ball into the net with the outside of his right foot.

In the 82nd minute Darron Gibson completed the scoring two minutes after coming on as a substitute planting a right-footed shot past Jussi Jaaskelainen from a Nani pass.

Own Goals is United's second top scorer after Rooney.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 28, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Crazy Jlloyd Samuel own-goal sets up Manchester United win
By Will Swanson (clicklancashire.com)


A remarkable own goal from Bolton Wanderers defender Jlloyd Samuel helped hand the points to Manchester United.

In the 38th minute with the score still at 0-0 Samuel managed to stroke the ball home as expertly as a seasoned striker to give United a lead they deserved on the balance of play.

Nani flicked a pass to Ryan Giggs whose ball into the box evaded Darren Fletcher and reached Samuel ten yards out. Instead of clearing the ball he instead rolled it past Jussi Jaaskelainen and into the far corner.

Bolton missed a fine chance to equalise but Edwin van der Sar produced a fine save from Fabrice Muamba.

After the break Dimitar Berbatov added a deserved second in the 69th minute. Darren Fletcher ran onto a superb Ryan Giggs pass before hitting a left-foot shot from 20 yards that Jussi Jaaskelainen can only parry into the path of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgarian slotting in from 10 yards.

The third arrived in the 78th minute when Nani marauded down the left and into the Bolton box, turned Sam Ricketts inside out and then rolled the ball along the six-yard box for Dimitar Berbatov to nonchalantly flick the ball into the net with the outside of his right foot.

In the 82nd minute Darron Gibson completed the scoring two minutes after coming on as a substitute planting a right-footed shot past Jussi Jaaskelainen from a Nani pass.

Own Goals is United's second top scorer after Rooney.


Actually Berbatov is :)

We get all those own goals from our play anyways - it's not as though people have scored an inordinate amount of freak own goals for us. The majority, if not all, are goals that would likely be scored anyway if the player in question hadn't intervened for dangerous balls.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

ayeeeee boy  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: glad to see u alive
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 28, 2010, 03:34:23 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

AA..good to see u man.... :afro:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 28, 2010, 03:43:38 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

ayeeeee boy  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: glad to see u alive


Yes I am-recovering from a broken ankle. Glad to see you still holding it down against the hators! PS:I am a woman ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 28, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

AA..good to see u man.... :afro:


Thanks Sammy-the sex change went well-just kidding still female! Hope all is well :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 28, 2010, 03:57:04 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

ayeeeee boy  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: glad to see u alive


Yes I am-recovering from a broken ankle run-in in a club with vidic and scholes.

Fixed it for you.  I do wish you a speedy recovery.  :beermug:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 28, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
welcome back giggsy, just in time to see chelsea buss allyuh ass..  :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 28, 2010, 04:14:43 PM
Crazy Jlloyd Samuel own-goal sets up Manchester United win
By Will Swanson (clicklancashire.com)


A remarkable own goal from Bolton Wanderers defender Jlloyd Samuel helped hand the points to Manchester United.

In the 38th minute with the score still at 0-0 Samuel managed to stroke the ball home as expertly as a seasoned striker to give United a lead they deserved on the balance of play.

Nani flicked a pass to Ryan Giggs whose ball into the box evaded Darren Fletcher and reached Samuel ten yards out. Instead of clearing the ball he instead rolled it past Jussi Jaaskelainen and into the far corner.

Bolton missed a fine chance to equalise but Edwin van der Sar produced a fine save from Fabrice Muamba.

After the break Dimitar Berbatov added a deserved second in the 69th minute. Darren Fletcher ran onto a superb Ryan Giggs pass before hitting a left-foot shot from 20 yards that Jussi Jaaskelainen can only parry into the path of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgarian slotting in from 10 yards.

The third arrived in the 78th minute when Nani marauded down the left and into the Bolton box, turned Sam Ricketts inside out and then rolled the ball along the six-yard box for Dimitar Berbatov to nonchalantly flick the ball into the net with the outside of his right foot.

In the 82nd minute Darron Gibson completed the scoring two minutes after coming on as a substitute planting a right-footed shot past Jussi Jaaskelainen from a Nani pass.

Own Goals is United's second top scorer after Rooney.


Actually Berbatov is :)

Nah, Own Goals is more prolific dan Berbatov dis season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2010, 05:06:38 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

ayeeeee boy  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: glad to see u alive


Yes I am-recovering from a broken ankle. Glad to see you still holding it down against the hators! PS:I am a woman ;D :beermug:

 :-* well look thing i always thought you was a fellah. Still nice to hear u around.   :) , doh study them haters nah  , they full ah SH&*T !  :devil: like Mango  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 28, 2010, 05:35:38 PM
aye,

anyone know what become of GIGGSY11?

Still around. Took a break from the scenes; got tired of some of the nonsense.  :beermug: :beermug:

AA..good to see u man.... :afro:


Thanks Sammy-the sex change went well-just kidding still female! Hope all is well :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
wow.....(sorry to hear that u broke your ankle, always thought u were a guy, glad to have u back) ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on March 28, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
Crazy Jlloyd Samuel own-goal sets up Manchester United win
By Will Swanson (clicklancashire.com)


A remarkable own goal from Bolton Wanderers defender Jlloyd Samuel helped hand the points to Manchester United.

In the 38th minute with the score still at 0-0 Samuel managed to stroke the ball home as expertly as a seasoned striker to give United a lead they deserved on the balance of play.

Nani flicked a pass to Ryan Giggs whose ball into the box evaded Darren Fletcher and reached Samuel ten yards out. Instead of clearing the ball he instead rolled it past Jussi Jaaskelainen and into the far corner.

Bolton missed a fine chance to equalise but Edwin van der Sar produced a fine save from Fabrice Muamba.

After the break Dimitar Berbatov added a deserved second in the 69th minute. Darren Fletcher ran onto a superb Ryan Giggs pass before hitting a left-foot shot from 20 yards that Jussi Jaaskelainen can only parry into the path of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgarian slotting in from 10 yards.

The third arrived in the 78th minute when Nani marauded down the left and into the Bolton box, turned Sam Ricketts inside out and then rolled the ball along the six-yard box for Dimitar Berbatov to nonchalantly flick the ball into the net with the outside of his right foot.

In the 82nd minute Darron Gibson completed the scoring two minutes after coming on as a substitute planting a right-footed shot past Jussi Jaaskelainen from a Nani pass.

Own Goals is United's second top scorer after Rooney.


Actually Berbatov is :)

Nah, Own Goals is more prolific dan Berbatov dis season.

There've been 11 - Berbatov has 12 pal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2010, 08:32:22 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2010, 09:10:13 PM
 :challenge:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 01:50:33 AM
 :flamethrower:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 06:16:08 AM
Happy Belated Small Mag... bless up fuh de weekend  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on April 03, 2010, 06:22:30 AM
"That's an agricultural challenge" lol. Commentator talking about Scholes yellow card.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:30:44 AM
"That's an agricultural challenge" lol. Commentator talking about Scholes yellow card.

 Dat was hilarious!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 03, 2010, 06:34:45 AM
"That's an agricultural challenge" lol. Commentator talking about Scholes yellow card.

 Dat was hilarious!

yeah cause all he cut was grass... :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 06:38:43 AM
"That's an agricultural challenge" lol. Commentator talking about Scholes yellow card.

 Dat was hilarious!

yeah cause all he cut was grass... :'(

  Well, even if you made no contact with Malouda as he skilfully rode out the challenge like a TRUE footballer should (he could have easily "decided" to have gone down and gotten his ass sent off!) in the words of "sir alex": "...you could see his intent...".
(allyuh manu fans men is de most biased, obnoxious setta fans people could find anywhere boy.) ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 03, 2010, 08:00:10 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 03, 2010, 08:05:59 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 08:21:38 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5
Dude, yall were awful, to say a draw would have been fair is ridiculous. I agree, we will probably drop points at WHL and Anfield. But unless Rooney returns I think Man City will murder yall.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 03, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5

That hand ball was intentional in regards to the law of the game. His hand went out away from the body making it intentional.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 08:38:43 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5

That hand ball was intentional in regards to the law of the game. His hand went out away from the body making it intentional.

When Macheda is your second best striker, you have to take de goals anyhow you can get dem.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 03, 2010, 08:40:14 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5

That hand ball was intentional in regards to the law of the game. His hand went out away from the body making it intentional.

   I find it look like a somewhat "handball lite" version of Henry's goal against Ireland.  It look like is both hands he touch it with.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 03, 2010, 09:06:38 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5

That hand ball was intentional in regards to the law of the game. His hand went out away from the body making it intentional.

When Macheda is your second best striker, you have to take de goals anyhow you can get dem.

hey 3 goals in 6 prem games...impressive stats  :devil:


Title race will take some twist and turns before the end but If Chelsea win the league I wouldnt have that much complaints..they beat us twice and United were poor this season.. post Ronaldo hangover and trying to find the balance..If we could win 1 more trophy before the season ends I would be very satisfied

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 03, 2010, 09:13:40 AM
I hope that this is the side that shows up vs Bayern.  ;D

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 03, 2010, 09:19:42 AM
I hope that this is the side that shows up vs Bayern.  ;D



lol why you being such a Voyeur...arent you an Arsenal fan?  learning from the best?(Wenger aka the Voyeur)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 03, 2010, 09:22:15 AM
I hope that this is the side that shows up vs Bayern.  ;D




Haha this was the side that already showed up against Bayern - arguably worse yes.

If we cah handle Malouda doh, I could only speculate as to how we go handle dis man:-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otV9tMwkNM8&fmt=18


I'ddd say he's fit for Wednesday haha.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2010, 09:27:05 AM
in other words we in the shit right now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 03, 2010, 09:33:46 AM
Trotters Match day... :devil:

too early  :devil:

Good win today but shit call from the ref...Kiko's handball wasnt intentional..that hit him

Poor way to lose...I reckon a draw would have been fair..Chelsea were better in the 1st half..we were better in the second

5 games to go...Chelsea dropping points at Spurs and Pool..we have to win our 5

That hand ball was intentional in regards to the law of the game. His hand went out away from the body making it intentional.

When Macheda is your second best striker, you have to take de goals anyhow you can get dem.

hey 3 goals in 6 prem games...impressive stats  :devil:


Title race will take some twist and turns before the end but If Chelsea win the league I wouldnt have that much complaints..they beat us twice and United were poor this season.. post Ronaldo hangover and trying to find the balance..If we could win 1 more trophy before the season ends I would be very satisfied



Good, well I'm backing yall to stay in Champs League for as long as possible, the more midweek matches yall have de better  ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 03, 2010, 10:46:30 AM
I hope that this is the side that shows up vs Bayern.  ;D



Haha this was the side that already showed up against Bayern - arguably worse yes.


Rooney.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: The_Ice on April 03, 2010, 03:34:37 PM
aye like the rent boys beat ya'll  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 09, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/wuUsYZaZNcM

Rooney tries to sneak a pint.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2010, 02:27:21 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 09, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/wuUsYZaZNcM

Rooney tries to sneak a pint.
:rotfl: :rotfl: Fergie have them men under rell manners boy!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 09, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/wuUsYZaZNcM

Rooney tries to sneak a pint.


A lil sip wouldn't ah kill him man...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 09, 2010, 09:57:17 PM
Chicharito deal cheers Mexican football

By David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes

April 9, 2010

 
Thursday April 8, 2010, became one of the most treasured days in the history of Mexican football.

Forget about Rafael Marquez, Andres Guardado, Hugo Sanchez, Luis Garcia and even the great 'Pirata' ('The Pirate') Luis de la Fuente . The transaction that took Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez to Manchester United was the most expensive of all time, and the best part was the manner in which this transaction was accomplished.

First of all, an acknowledgement must be made to Chivas and to president Jorge Vergara for going against the traditional policies of Mexican clubs when they decided that a 21-year-old player is destined for success.

Secondly, and this is an irrefutable fact but nevertheless unusual in Mexican football: they have sold his rights in a decided, determined way, with no strings attached, no loans, no promoters, no favours, no help, without the infamous 'Let's see whether he works out for you and then we make the payments'. This type of negotiation is very simple to achieve in other latitudes, but it is terribly unusual to see in Mexico.

'Chicharito' has left at the right time. It is the right time to display his skills, to continue with his learning process, to listen to the wise advice of Sir Alex Ferguson , to immerse himself at Old Trafford, to hear the sound of glory coming from this venerable stadium.

Jorge Vergara seized the opportunity to sign a cooperation agreement with the famous and powerful English side. Chivas will no longer sell their players to an alternative market such as the Netherlands. They will sit at a position of honour at the negotiating table, alongside the biggest and most powerful teams in international football.

In the same announcement, Vergara indicated that the complete starting line-up of Manchester United will be on hand to inaugurate the new Chivas stadium, the Great Temple, towards the end of July.

A dream come true, a great business deal, the lucky strike that the red-and-white faithful had been waiting for for so long.

The events that took place on Thursday are more important than many may expect, and their importance extends to the rest of Mexican football, beyond Chivas or the player himself.

What comes after this will depend on his talent, his dedication, his professionalism and his enthusiasm, and Hernandez has plenty of all that.

But for a football community that dreams eternally of a brighter tomorrow, the sale of 'Chicharito' to Manchester United brings a new opportunity to expand its own hopes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 09, 2010, 11:57:11 PM
Chicharito deal cheers Mexican football

By David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes

April 9, 2010

 

Thursday April 8, 2010, became one of the most treasured days in the history of Mexican football.

Forget about Rafael Marquez, Andres Guardado, Hugo Sanchez, Luis Garcia and even the great 'Pirata' ('The Pirate') Luis de la Fuente . The transaction that took Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez to Manchester United was the most expensive of all time, and the best part was the manner in which this transaction was accomplished.

First of all, an acknowledgement must be made to Chivas and to president Jorge Vergara for going against the traditional policies of Mexican clubs when they decided that a 21-year-old player is destined for success.

Secondly, and this is an irrefutable fact but nevertheless unusual in Mexican football: they have sold his rights in a decided, determined way, with no strings attached, no loans, no promoters, no favours, no help, without the infamous 'Let's see whether he works out for you and then we make the payments'. This type of negotiation is very simple to achieve in other latitudes, but it is terribly unusual to see in Mexico.

'Chicharito' has left at the right time. It is the right time to display his skills, to continue with his learning process, to listen to the wise advice of Sir Alex Ferguson , to immerse himself at Old Trafford, to hear the sound of glory coming from this venerable stadium.

Jorge Vergara seized the opportunity to sign a cooperation agreement with the famous and powerful English side. Chivas will no longer sell their players to an alternative market such as the Netherlands. They will sit at a position of honour at the negotiating table, alongside the biggest and most powerful teams in international football.

In the same announcement, Vergara indicated that the complete starting line-up of Manchester United will be on hand to inaugurate the new Chivas stadium, the Great Temple, towards the end of July.

A dream come true, a great business deal, the lucky strike that the red-and-white faithful had been waiting for for so long.

The events that took place on Thursday are more important than many may expect, and their importance extends to the rest of Mexican football, beyond Chivas or the player himself.

What comes after this will depend on his talent, his dedication, his professionalism and his enthusiasm, and Hernandez has plenty of all that.

But for a football community that dreams eternally of a brighter tomorrow, the sale of 'Chicharito' to Manchester United brings a new opportunity to expand its own hopes.

I'm very excited about this deal...The hype around him is massive...Everyone who's seen him play all have positive things to say and a scouting report I read was also extremely encouraging

I think Kiko Macheda will be a big player for United one day soon and with Chicharito's potential to be a great signing I cannot wait for pre season to get a glimpse of our two upcoming stars...I still think we need a top class striker...Villa or Benzema..even Edin Dzeko... and a classy CM/CAM..Modric or David Silva please

Unfortunately that will end Berba and Carrick's time but we need a change...I love Berbs but we need to play 4-4-2 constantly for him to have a real shot of showing everyone what he is all about..when we play 4-4-2 he always does well..be it assist or score or assist the assist..he's always involved... the 4-5-1 does not suit his style at all
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 10, 2010, 06:29:12 AM
Chicharito deal cheers Mexican football

By David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes

April 9, 2010

 

Thursday April 8, 2010, became one of the most treasured days in the history of Mexican football.

Forget about Rafael Marquez, Andres Guardado, Hugo Sanchez, Luis Garcia and even the great 'Pirata' ('The Pirate') Luis de la Fuente . The transaction that took Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez to Manchester United was the most expensive of all time, and the best part was the manner in which this transaction was accomplished.

First of all, an acknowledgement must be made to Chivas and to president Jorge Vergara for going against the traditional policies of Mexican clubs when they decided that a 21-year-old player is destined for success.

Secondly, and this is an irrefutable fact but nevertheless unusual in Mexican football: they have sold his rights in a decided, determined way, with no strings attached, no loans, no promoters, no favours, no help, without the infamous 'Let's see whether he works out for you and then we make the payments'. This type of negotiation is very simple to achieve in other latitudes, but it is terribly unusual to see in Mexico.

'Chicharito' has left at the right time. It is the right time to display his skills, to continue with his learning process, to listen to the wise advice of Sir Alex Ferguson , to immerse himself at Old Trafford, to hear the sound of glory coming from this venerable stadium.

Jorge Vergara seized the opportunity to sign a cooperation agreement with the famous and powerful English side. Chivas will no longer sell their players to an alternative market such as the Netherlands. They will sit at a position of honour at the negotiating table, alongside the biggest and most powerful teams in international football.

In the same announcement, Vergara indicated that the complete starting line-up of Manchester United will be on hand to inaugurate the new Chivas stadium, the Great Temple, towards the end of July.

A dream come true, a great business deal, the lucky strike that the red-and-white faithful had been waiting for for so long.

The events that took place on Thursday are more important than many may expect, and their importance extends to the rest of Mexican football, beyond Chivas or the player himself.

What comes after this will depend on his talent, his dedication, his professionalism and his enthusiasm, and Hernandez has plenty of all that.

But for a football community that dreams eternally of a brighter tomorrow, the sale of 'Chicharito' to Manchester United brings a new opportunity to expand its own hopes.

I'm very excited about this deal...The hype around him is massive...Everyone who's seen him play all have positive things to say and a scouting report I read was also extremely encouraging

I think Kiko Macheda will be a big player for United one day soon and with Chicharito's potential to be a great signing I cannot wait for pre season to get a glimpse of our two upcoming stars...I still think we need a top class striker...Villa or Benzema..even Edin Dzeko... and a classy CM/CAM..Modric or David Silva please

Unfortunately that will end Berba and Carrick's time but we need a change...I love Berbs but we need to play 4-4-2 constantly for him to have a real shot of showing everyone what he is all about..when we play 4-4-2 he always does well..be it assist or score or assist the assist..he's always involved... the 4-5-1 does not suit his style at all

Apparently yall were offered Villa for £40m and turned him down....and signed this kid instead. Times are tough at Old Trafford
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 10, 2010, 07:16:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJk-OempCJI

chicharito

(bess song in the video)  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 10, 2010, 08:31:59 AM
ill pass on the song
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 10, 2010, 09:29:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJk-OempCJI

chicharito

(bess song in the video)  ;D

LOL IRON MAIDEN!!!

UP THE IRONS!!! \m/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 10, 2010, 09:39:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJk-OempCJI

chicharito

(bess song in the video)  ;D

LOL IRON MAIDEN!!!

UP THE IRONS!!! \m/

somewhere down pub
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/57377799/SmileyIronMaiden_sEddie_normal.gif)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 10, 2010, 09:42:48 AM
Chicharito deal cheers Mexican football

By David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes

April 9, 2010

 

Thursday April 8, 2010, became one of the most treasured days in the history of Mexican football.

Forget about Rafael Marquez, Andres Guardado, Hugo Sanchez, Luis Garcia and even the great 'Pirata' ('The Pirate') Luis de la Fuente . The transaction that took Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez to Manchester United was the most expensive of all time, and the best part was the manner in which this transaction was accomplished.

First of all, an acknowledgement must be made to Chivas and to president Jorge Vergara for going against the traditional policies of Mexican clubs when they decided that a 21-year-old player is destined for success.

Secondly, and this is an irrefutable fact but nevertheless unusual in Mexican football: they have sold his rights in a decided, determined way, with no strings attached, no loans, no promoters, no favours, no help, without the infamous 'Let's see whether he works out for you and then we make the payments'. This type of negotiation is very simple to achieve in other latitudes, but it is terribly unusual to see in Mexico.

'Chicharito' has left at the right time. It is the right time to display his skills, to continue with his learning process, to listen to the wise advice of Sir Alex Ferguson , to immerse himself at Old Trafford, to hear the sound of glory coming from this venerable stadium.

Jorge Vergara seized the opportunity to sign a cooperation agreement with the famous and powerful English side. Chivas will no longer sell their players to an alternative market such as the Netherlands. They will sit at a position of honour at the negotiating table, alongside the biggest and most powerful teams in international football.

In the same announcement, Vergara indicated that the complete starting line-up of Manchester United will be on hand to inaugurate the new Chivas stadium, the Great Temple, towards the end of July.

A dream come true, a great business deal, the lucky strike that the red-and-white faithful had been waiting for for so long.

The events that took place on Thursday are more important than many may expect, and their importance extends to the rest of Mexican football, beyond Chivas or the player himself.

What comes after this will depend on his talent, his dedication, his professionalism and his enthusiasm, and Hernandez has plenty of all that.

But for a football community that dreams eternally of a brighter tomorrow, the sale of 'Chicharito' to Manchester United brings a new opportunity to expand its own hopes.

I'm very excited about this deal...The hype around him is massive...Everyone who's seen him play all have positive things to say and a scouting report I read was also extremely encouraging

I think Kiko Macheda will be a big player for United one day soon and with Chicharito's potential to be a great signing I cannot wait for pre season to get a glimpse of our two upcoming stars...I still think we need a top class striker...Villa or Benzema..even Edin Dzeko... and a classy CM/CAM..Modric or David Silva please

Unfortunately that will end Berba and Carrick's time but we need a change...I love Berbs but we need to play 4-4-2 constantly for him to have a real shot of showing everyone what he is all about..when we play 4-4-2 he always does well..be it assist or score or assist the assist..he's always involved... the 4-5-1 does not suit his style at all

Apparently yall were offered Villa for £40m and turned him down....and signed this kid instead. Times are tough at Old Trafford

I wouldn't want Villa for 40 mil na - das too much money for basically a 29 year old striker - one who relies to an extent on his speed as well.

Spending big money on players in or near to the end of their prime is not great football or financial sense - because the resale value is low and players generally need some bedding in time - especially if they're coming from a different country and league. Players at that age are generally more set in their ways as opposed to younger players whose can be shaped and moulded mentally and stylewise.

Villa ain't Berbatov - but that's still too expensive - whether Utd have the money or not.

Valencia should have sold Villa a year or 2 ago when he was at his hottest - but 2 years on and being overshadowed in La Liga somewhat would not have helped his market value. Not to mention Valencia have won nothing since deciding to keep hold of him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on April 10, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
ACES HIGH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJq1eJe-sto
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 10, 2010, 10:30:41 AM
Chicharito deal cheers Mexican football

By David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes

April 9, 2010

 

Thursday April 8, 2010, became one of the most treasured days in the history of Mexican football.

Forget about Rafael Marquez, Andres Guardado, Hugo Sanchez, Luis Garcia and even the great 'Pirata' ('The Pirate') Luis de la Fuente . The transaction that took Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez to Manchester United was the most expensive of all time, and the best part was the manner in which this transaction was accomplished.

First of all, an acknowledgement must be made to Chivas and to president Jorge Vergara for going against the traditional policies of Mexican clubs when they decided that a 21-year-old player is destined for success.

Secondly, and this is an irrefutable fact but nevertheless unusual in Mexican football: they have sold his rights in a decided, determined way, with no strings attached, no loans, no promoters, no favours, no help, without the infamous 'Let's see whether he works out for you and then we make the payments'. This type of negotiation is very simple to achieve in other latitudes, but it is terribly unusual to see in Mexico.

'Chicharito' has left at the right time. It is the right time to display his skills, to continue with his learning process, to listen to the wise advice of Sir Alex Ferguson , to immerse himself at Old Trafford, to hear the sound of glory coming from this venerable stadium.

Jorge Vergara seized the opportunity to sign a cooperation agreement with the famous and powerful English side. Chivas will no longer sell their players to an alternative market such as the Netherlands. They will sit at a position of honour at the negotiating table, alongside the biggest and most powerful teams in international football.

In the same announcement, Vergara indicated that the complete starting line-up of Manchester United will be on hand to inaugurate the new Chivas stadium, the Great Temple, towards the end of July.

A dream come true, a great business deal, the lucky strike that the red-and-white faithful had been waiting for for so long.

The events that took place on Thursday are more important than many may expect, and their importance extends to the rest of Mexican football, beyond Chivas or the player himself.

What comes after this will depend on his talent, his dedication, his professionalism and his enthusiasm, and Hernandez has plenty of all that.

But for a football community that dreams eternally of a brighter tomorrow, the sale of 'Chicharito' to Manchester United brings a new opportunity to expand its own hopes.

I'm very excited about this deal...The hype around him is massive...Everyone who's seen him play all have positive things to say and a scouting report I read was also extremely encouraging

I think Kiko Macheda will be a big player for United one day soon and with Chicharito's potential to be a great signing I cannot wait for pre season to get a glimpse of our two upcoming stars...I still think we need a top class striker...Villa or Benzema..even Edin Dzeko... and a classy CM/CAM..Modric or David Silva please

Unfortunately that will end Berba and Carrick's time but we need a change...I love Berbs but we need to play 4-4-2 constantly for him to have a real shot of showing everyone what he is all about..when we play 4-4-2 he always does well..be it assist or score or assist the assist..he's always involved... the 4-5-1 does not suit his style at all


Apparently yall were offered Villa for £40m and turned him down....and signed this kid instead. Times are tough at Old Trafford

I wouldn't want Villa for 40 mil na - das too much money for basically a 29 year old striker - one who relies to an extent on his speed as well.

Spending big money on players in or near to the end of their prime is not great football or financial sense - because the resale value is low and players generally need some bedding in time - especially if they're coming from a different country and league. Players at that age are generally more set in their ways as opposed to younger players whose can be shaped and moulded mentally and stylewise.

Villa ain't Berbatov - but that's still too expensive - whether Utd have the money or not.

Valencia should have sold Villa a year or 2 ago when he was at his hottest - but 2 years on and being overshadowed in La Liga somewhat would not have helped his market value. Not to mention Valencia have won nothing since deciding to keep hold of him.

I agree regarding buying older player for that amount of money. United's policy has always been not to spend high numbers on older out field players. That is why I couldn't understand why they went after Berbatov . Unfortunately they are paying for it.At least Carrick helped them win the CL and EPL, Berba zilch! The team I felt lacked leadersip in the midfield against Bayern, no one to kill the ball so the team could have gone in with a 3 nil lead.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 11, 2010, 07:53:10 AM
we looking real lost this game so far.  :-\

no one looking ot take charge and make something happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 11, 2010, 07:56:25 AM


no one looking to take charge and make something happen.

not even mini cronaldo nanny?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 11, 2010, 08:00:20 AM
we looking real lost this game so far.  :-\

no one looking ot take charge and make something happen.



That has been the problem all season. Berbatov seems like he does geh weakkneed when he in the box, never see a player slip or lose his boots so much during a match. And he have the most negative body language on the field; he buffin players and he playin shite! I am ready for the World Cup oui!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 11, 2010, 08:12:46 AM
we looking real lost this game so far.  :-\

no one looking ot take charge and make something happen.



That has been the problem all season. Berbatov seems like he does geh weakkneed when he in the box, never see a player slip or lose his boots so much during a match. And he have the most negative body language on the field; he buffin players and he playin shite! I am ready for the World Cup oui!


Utd just don't have the depth this season yes. Rooney has been amazing and Valencia has been value for money - but outside of them there hasn't been a consistent attacking force in the team all season. Berbatov has been a waste of money (I wouldn't say disappointment because I never rated or expected anything out of him). Utd brought in Obertan and Diouf but they've barely seen any time this season - and neither have too many youth players.

A combination of a stale lineup (especially overuse of the older heads), over-reliance on Rooney and defensive injuries have cost us this season.

They need a freshening up next year yes - in more ways than one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 11, 2010, 08:17:33 AM
we looking real lost this game so far.  :-\

no one looking ot take charge and make something happen.



That has been the problem all season. Berbatov seems like he does geh weakkneed when he in the box, never see a player slip or lose his boots so much during a match. And he have the most negative body language on the field; he buffin players and he playin shite! I am ready for the World Cup oui!

Dat man fall again.....Lord
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 11, 2010, 08:20:47 AM
we looking real lost this game so far.  :-\

no one looking ot take charge and make something happen.



That has been the problem all season. Berbatov seems like he does geh weakkneed when he in the box, never see a player slip or lose his boots so much during a match. And he have the most negative body language on the field; he buffin players and he playin shite! I am ready for the World Cup oui!


Utd just don't have the depth this season yes. Rooney has been amazing and Valencia has been value for money - but outside of them there hasn't been a consistent attacking force in the team all season. Berbatov has been a waste of money (I wouldn't say disappointment because I never rated or expected anything out of him). Utd brought in Obertan and Diouf but they've barely seen any time this season - and neither have too many youth players.

A combination of a stale lineup (especially overuse of the older heads), over-reliance on Rooney and defensive injuries have cost us this season.

They need a freshening up next year yes - in more ways than one.

cant understand y neville is still playing for utd, and u mean to tell me that no one on the field can take a proper corner /free kick? steups....... I surprised we did so well to challenge chelsea this season with this current side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 11, 2010, 08:22:02 AM


no one looking to take charge and make something happen.

not even mini cronaldo nanny?

Nani trying real hard, but he needs to work on his final ball......it seems as if he tries tooo hard.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 11, 2010, 08:26:17 AM
prepare for the worst, hope for the best  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 11, 2010, 08:30:59 AM


no one looking to take charge and make something happen.

not even mini cronaldo nanny?

Nani trying real hard, but he needs to work on his final ball......it seems as if he tries tooo hard.

  He tries too hard to be like cronaldo.....watching him play sometimes you can't tell the difference between the two..(nanny skin flesh darker).  He has the ability to really work the wing but his service into the box is often lacking.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 14, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
Yorke relishes OT return

by Nick Coppack - ManUtd.com


He won the Treble with United in 1999 and now Dwight Yorke is about to pull on a red shirt once more in aid of charity.

United Relief will mix football and music to raise money for Sport Relief and the Manchester United Foundation. The main event, held at Old Trafford on Saturday 1 May, is a game between a United XI and a Rivals XI. It will feature former players (including six of the 1999 Treble-winning side) and current stars of the entertainment world.

Also on the bill is a pre-match concert, with music from The Saturdays, Tinchy Stryder, The Hoosiers and Tony Christie.

Dwight Yorke netted 66 goals in 152 appearances for United and told us he's itching to recreate the "phenomenal" feeling of scoring at Old Trafford...


How much are you looking forward to this match?

I don’t think playing at Old Trafford will ever lose its excitement. I played lots of games there and it never lost its thrill. You still get an incredible buzz when you walk out on that pitch. It’s a fantastic place to play, a unique atmosphere, and it’s all for a great cause so that will be brilliant. I still live in the area and being part of Manchester United is more than just football – it’s about getting involved in charity work, too.


What’s your favourite memory from matches you played at OT?

The Inter Milan game in the Champions League quarter-final in 1999. They’d always been really difficult to play against, so to score twice was really special. Italians had been dominating European football for a while… that game showed Premier League teams could compete. The Barcelona match when we drew 3-3 was also fantastic.


What was the best goal you scored at OT?
I can’t pick one. I can’t remember them all, to be honest! But I remember the feeling of scoring here – the buzz, the energy. Phenomenal. Anyone who’s scored here will tell you it’s amazing.


What occupies your time now you’ve quit football?
I’m still playing football casually. Currently, I’m doing a bit of TV work for Sky and the BBC, and I travel a lot around the Caribbean – I have a home there. I also play a lot of golf. I’m busy, but I’m enjoying life.


Have you been back to OT much? What sort of reception do you get?
I’ve had the pleasure of coming back several times and the reception I get is always fantastic. It’s nice to catch up with the boys that used to play – some who I was in the team with are still playing. I live locally so it’s a pleasure to come here whenever I can.


Do you still keep in touch with Andy Cole?
We’re neighbours, so I see him all the time – he’s literally a stone’s throw away from me. We were always partners on the pitch and we’re still very much friends off the pitch. We’re both keen golfers so we play a lot and have some good battles on the course.


How will you two go about resuming your legendary strike partnership?
I’m really looking forward to it. I’m still pretty fit, I keep myself in good nick – I only retired six months ago. I play better when I’m relaxed and I think I’ll be very relaxed on the night. Andy’s also very fit, so I don’t see why we shouldn’t be a pretty good strike force again.


Which other players are you looking forward to seeing?

The 1999 team haven’t had a get-together in quite a while, so I’m looking forward to seeing all of them. I haven’t seen Jaap Stam for a long time so I’m hoping he’ll be along. It feels like yesterday I was playing with those guys, but it’s more than 10 years!

When you’re playing charity matches involving non-footballing celebrities, it must be tempting to embarrass them?
We probably will! But you want to entertain people. The fans are paying money to a very good cause so I’m sure there will be some good skills on display. You want to entertain, win, but also play the game in the right manner.


Finally, give us a prediction for the match, then…

I’m not too sure about the score, but I’m predicting that there will be a lot of goals.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 16, 2010, 06:05:46 PM
City United, City Divided

Tomorrow is D Day...anything but 3 points and the title heads to London

Hopefully United and Spurs can get 3 points even though I'll settle with a Spurs Chelsea draw...If we win and Chelsea win..4 point gap will be enough for the rent boys in my opinion...

I just wanna beat our noisy neighbours and dent their 4th place idea.


WHO'S THAT TWAT FROM ARGENTINAAAA
WHO'S THAT MONEY GRABBING WHORE
CARLOS TEVEZ IS HIS NAME
AND HE'S GOT NO f**kING BRAIN
AND HE WONT BE WINNING TROPHIES ANYMOREEEE

THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITY
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALL
THIS IS HOW FEELS FOR YOUR TEAM TO WIN NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL


IN 76
OH THIS IS TRUE
A TROPHY WAS WON BY A TEAM IN BLUE
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THAT DAY,
SO WE'LL SING THEM A SONG THEY f**kING HATE
34 YEARS!
f**k ALL

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 16, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
Tosic Double v. Bochum today.


http://www.youtube.com/v/093itK1pOp0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 16, 2010, 06:40:38 PM
Tosic Double v. Bochum today.


http://www.youtube.com/v/093itK1pOp0

I would hate it if we sold him...I think he's gonna be a big player..His composure is outstanding

You dont mess with the Zoran!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 16, 2010, 07:19:50 PM
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Wood dem Carlitos!!!  :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 16, 2010, 08:43:38 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3765442784_db7e8702f5.jpg)

Good Luck to Tevez having as much success in any amount of years at City as he had in 2 years at Utd  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 16, 2010, 09:02:49 PM
pity the fool  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FireBrand on April 17, 2010, 05:07:37 AM
Up early for this one! Rooney starting...all de big guns accounted for on both sides.

Man City
01 Given, 03 Bridge, 04 Onuoha, 28 Toure, 33 Kompany, 11 A Johnson, 18 Barry, 34 De Jong, 25 Adebayor, 32 Tevez, 39 Bellamy

Substitutes
37 Nielsen, 05 Zabaleta, 44 Boyata, 07 Ireland, 08 Wright-Phillips, 24 Vieira, 14 Santa Cruz


Man Utd
01 Van der Sar, 02 Neville, 03 Evra, 15 Vidic, 23 Evans, 11 Giggs, 18 Scholes, 24 Fletcher, 25 Valencia, 28 Gibson, 10 Rooney

Substitutes
29 Kuszczak, 21 Rafael Da Silva, 22 O'Shea, 16 Carrick, 17 Nani, 09 Berbatov, 26 Obertan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 05:44:39 AM
Up early for this one! Rooney starting...all de big guns accounted for on both sides.

Man City
01 Given, 03 Bridge, 04 Onuoha, 28 Toure, 33 Kompany, 11 A Johnson, 18 Barry, 34 De Jong, 25 Adebayor, 32 Tevez, 39 Bellamy

Substitutes
37 Nielsen, 05 Zabaleta, 44 Boyata, 07 Ireland, 08 Wright-Phillips, 24 Vieira, 14 Santa Cruz


Man Utd
01 Van der Sar, 02 Neville, 03 Evra, 15 Vidic, 23 Evans, 11 Giggs, 18 Scholes, 24 Fletcher, 25 Valencia, 28 Gibson, 10 Rooney

Substitutes
29 Kuszczak, 21 Rafael Da Silva, 22 O'Shea, 16 Carrick, 17 Nani, 09 Berbatov, 26 Obertan


Carrick and Berbatov really in the doghouse yes. Half-fit Rooney and a 35 year-old Scholes bein preferred to them recently.

So much for Hargreaves bein involved in the squad as well. Pretty much layin doubt on whether we will really see him at all this season or indeed even again at Utd.

Fergie really eh learn he lesson playin these vets in big games over the las few weeks. Hopefully Giggs, Scholes and Neville make me eat my words...but Neville and Scholes in particular are a real concern for me in dis game. It should be a breathtaking pace - and Evans also hasn't played that much recently.

Havin Nani & O'Shea on the bench is a bit questionable. Hopefully Obertan gets a chance to get into this game at some point as well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 05:46:19 AM
Atkinson is the ref.... ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 05:59:04 AM
Valencia does ever enjoy these games? He does always look vex.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 06:09:29 AM
City players are dropping like flies yes.

Utd could and probably should be 2-0 up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 06:39:11 AM
City players are dropping like flies yes.

Utd could and probably should be 2-0 up.

Except for that little flurry in the end, neither team looking troubled.
City real roughing up Rooney. Dare I say that Berbatov might me an effective sub in this one. This game need someone unpredictable.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 06:42:10 AM
City players are dropping like flies yes.

Utd could and probably should be 2-0 up.

Except for that little flurry in the end, neither team looking troubled.
City real roughing up Rooney. Dare I say that Berbatov might me an effective sub in this one. This game need someone unpredictable.


I doh necessarily mean they deserve to be 2-0 up. I mean those 2 chances probably should have been scored - or at least troubled Given.

They have been the better team though - 1-0 is likely about right - 2-0 might be pushin it a bit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 06:43:49 AM
need nani to come in and trouble the defenders
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 06:51:13 AM
need nani to come in and trouble the defenders

Yeah some combination a Nani, O'Shea & Obertan might hadda see some time in the 2nd half.

Neville at least has been surprisingly ok in this one so far though - but I wouldn't hold my breath on that lastin.

Hope he eh doin any long-term damage either to Rooney playin him, when to me he doh look fully recovered.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 07:37:32 AM
 :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 17, 2010, 07:39:49 AM
HYMC lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 07:40:40 AM
 :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:

OMG f**kING GOD WHAT A GOAL 20 SEC LEFT


 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o WIN
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 17, 2010, 07:42:31 AM
SCCCCCHHHHHHOLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 17, 2010, 07:43:21 AM
With that win, United climbs all the way into...
2nd Place!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 17, 2010, 07:43:46 AM
Game on......Man U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 07:45:28 AM
Please lose today Chelsea  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 08:22:21 AM
wow. I had already conceded the title to cheslea and bam! GOAL!  GO SPURS.


Fergie should've brought on Berba earlier. Park injured?

I dont think we can continue like this for another season. We have to make some buys, and we have to leave of this 1 striker formation that leaves us depending on Rooney too much.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 08:30:19 AM
Paul Scholes = Legend.


http://www.youtube.com/v/JkX3UqUPnXw&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 08:57:21 AM
wow. I had already conceded the title to cheslea and bam! GOAL!  GO SPURS.


Fergie should've brought on Berba earlier. Park injured?

I dont think we can continue like this for another season. We have to make some buys, and we have to leave of this 1 striker formation that leaves us depending on Rooney too much.




Fergie's run the man into the ground, Berbatov slowing down the play and nobody in the midfield good enough to support Rooney when he plays on his own. Plus I think they started playing 433 and 451 to match other teams so they wouldn't get out numbered in the midddle but we really lack the creativity as well as the scoring from the midfield. I also think 451 gave Fergie a way to play more midfielders which United have more off than strikers. I think he took a chance with this squad this year and we are lucky to even have a chance to even win the EPL. What changes are made in the off season will be very telling.
Side note-all the people who rate up Fat Frank; the man can only play in 433 formations-442 he loses his way. That is why I think Scholes has a better football brain and a better footballer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 17, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
wow. I had already conceded the title to cheslea and bam! GOAL!  GO SPURS.


Fergie should've brought on Berba earlier. Park injured?

I dont think we can continue like this for another season. We have to make some buys, and we have to leave of this 1 striker formation that leaves us depending on Rooney too much.




Fergie's run the man into the ground, Berbatov slowing down the play and nobody in the midfield good enough to support Rooney when he plays on his own. Plus I think they started plaing 433 to match other teams so they wouldn't get out numbered in the midddle but we really lack the creativity as well as the scoring from the midfield. I also think 433 gave Fergie a way to play more midfielders which United have more off than strikers. I think he took a chance with this squad this year and we are lucky to even have a chance to even win the EPL. What changes are made in the off season will be very telling.
Side note-all the people who rate up Fat Frank; the man can only play in 433 formations-442 he loses his way. That is why I think Scholes has a better football brain and a better footballer.

Good win for yall today, puts the pressure right back on us, but yuh bein ridiculous. Lampard and Chelsea was bussin up everyone in sight pre African Nations with the 4-4-2 diamond. If you wanna compare 1999 Scholes with 2010 Lampard then that is a fair comparison, but yuh losing credibility trying to argue dat Scholes is better than Lampard now. Lampard has scored more goal this season than every midfielder in your squad combined (yes - go check it)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
wow. I had already conceded the title to cheslea and bam! GOAL!  GO SPURS.


Fergie should've brought on Berba earlier. Park injured?

I dont think we can continue like this for another season. We have to make some buys, and we have to leave of this 1 striker formation that leaves us depending on Rooney too much.




Fergie's run the man into the ground, Berbatov slowing down the play and nobody in the midfield good enough to support Rooney when he plays on his own. Plus I think they started plaing 433 to match other teams so they wouldn't get out numbered in the midddle but we really lack the creativity as well as the scoring from the midfield. I also think 433 gave Fergie a way to play more midfielders which United have more off than strikers. I think he took a chance with this squad this year and we are lucky to even have a chance to even win the EPL. What changes are made in the off season will be very telling.
Side note-all the people who rate up Fat Frank; the man can only play in 433 formations-442 he loses his way. That is why I think Scholes has a better football brain and a better footballer.

Good win for yall today, puts the pressure right back on us, but yuh bein ridiculous. Lampard and Chelsea was bussin up everyone in sight pre African Nations with the 4-4-2 diamond. If you wanna compare 1999 Scholes with 2010 Lampard then that is a fair comparison, but yuh losing credibility trying to argue dat Scholes is better than Lampard now. Lampard has scored more goal this season than every midfielder in your squad combined (yes - go check it)



I never said Scholes is better than Lampard today, Scholes' career on it's last legs. But career wise Scholes beats Lampard hands down. Lampard scores but he also takes penalties-which ups his tallies.Scholes use to score when he was younger and he still a better passer than Lampard will ever be. But in their prime Scholes hands down.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 17, 2010, 10:35:59 AM
Just amazing
 :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 17, 2010, 11:00:19 AM
what the fork is this  ???

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 11:01:44 AM
lord remove that quick before the haters see it  :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Sam on April 17, 2010, 11:08:42 AM
Is he a fag ? He and Neville kissing after de Man U game today. ?? Wha kinds ah bullar man thing going on here.

Yorke and Beckaam was suspecious too...  :devil:

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 17, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
what the fork is this  ???

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LOG ON... and step pon man u men!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
what the fork is this  ???

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0417/nevillekiss20100417_412x232.jpg)


Even I stunned! I will like to see it from a different angle just to make sure. Its all good, more ammunition for the hators!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 11:41:38 AM
it must be was a quick spur of the moment kiss like them Italian does do ??? camera man just cement that angle in history right there  :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 17, 2010, 11:46:16 AM
what allyuh give spurs boy?

i doubt they could beat arsenal chelski and manu one after the other
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 17, 2010, 12:30:44 PM
Ferguson like he is ah Obeah man we  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2010, 12:34:12 PM

LOG ON... and step pon man u men!

aye... make a lil guest appearance in the chelsea thread nah?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2010, 12:34:56 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 17, 2010, 12:35:36 PM
Ferguson like he is ah Obeah man we  :devil:

Haha Chelsea deserve da for not showin up an gettin away wit 2 penalties against Bolton yes.


Spurs eh d same team away from home usually; hopefully that stays true for us.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on April 17, 2010, 01:43:27 PM
what the fork is this  ???

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0417/nevillekiss20100417_412x232.jpg)
:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 17, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
(http://i.milliyet.com.tr/YeniAnaResim/2010/04/17/derbinin-galibi-90-3-te-belli-oldu--603838.Jpeg)

Man U bringin their locker room behaviour onto the field lol.
Captain fagtastic
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 17, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
(http://i.milliyet.com.tr/YeniAnaResim/2010/04/17/derbinin-galibi-90-3-te-belli-oldu--603838.Jpeg)
That goal made him as Giddy as a school girl oui
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 18, 2010, 06:07:22 AM
what the fork is this  ???

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Two men secure with their sexuality, plus it was not a sexual thing-but I bet poor Paul will not be looking forward to any follow up questions; Gary will not give a f*ck!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 18, 2010, 02:46:33 PM
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0417/nevillekiss20100417_412x232.jpg)

Wonder how Yorke wudda react if Neville had buss a smooch on him lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 18, 2010, 10:25:31 PM
Brother of United's Mame Biram Diouf beaten up after Manchester Derby

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/19/manchester-united-city-diouf/print

Manchester United's jubilation after a weekend that reinvigorated their title hopes has been tempered by the news that the brother of their striker Mame Biram Diouf was beaten up during a prolonged outbreak of violence after the derby victory against Manchester City.

Abdul Diouf, visiting his younger sibling while on holiday from Dakar, was punched and kicked to the ground because he was wearing his brother's shirt from the Carling Cup final, with the player's surname emblazoned above the number 32 – as worn previously by Carlos Tevez.

Witnesses said the 28-year-old was set upon after "walking the wrong way" during large-scale disorder outside the City of Manchester stadium. He was struck several times but did not lose consciousness. "He was attacked from behind by some Manchester City supporters as he was walking away from the ground," Jim Solbakken, Diouf's agent, said. "Fortunately he managed to get away without any bad injuries and he did not need medical treatment."

His attackers were heard shouting "Munich" in reference to the Munich air disaster in 1958 when a plane carrying United's team crashed, killing 23 people including eight of Sir Matt Busby's players.

Diouf, a 22-year-old Senegal international, signed for United from Molde last July but was loaned back to the Norwegian club for the rest of the Tippeligaen season. He moved to Old Trafford in January and scored his first goal a few weeks later in the 3-0 home defeat of Burnley, celebrating with a flip in front of the Stretford End. But he has been only on the fringe of the first-team squad, making five appearances, and was not in contention for the derby because of an injury.

The forward, signed on the recommendation of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer after averaging nearly a goal every two games for Molde, is said to be shocked and surprised about Saturday's incident, having not been fully aware of the hostile relationship between the two Manchester clubs. After hearing the details he was described as relieved and thankful that his brother avoided being hurt more seriously than bruises and cuts to his face and body. Sir Alex Ferguson has been informed and is expected to speak to his player today.

He has contacted relatives in Senegal and spoke last night to his younger brother, Mame Mbar, a 19-year-old striker with Molde who is on loan at Sarpsborg 08 in Norway's second division. Diouf about it .

Paul Scholes's winner for United in the third minute of stoppage time took Ferguson's team to within a point of Chelsea with three games to go and set off clashes outside the stadium between mounted police and a large group of City's supporters who were trying to confront the United fans. At the height of the trouble there was an attempt to overturn a police van. One fan was seen throwing horse dung at United's supporters with his bare hands.

During the day the police made 20 arrests, including 10 for public order offences and one for breaching a banning order. When the teams met in the Carling Cup semi-final in January, police searches at the gates led to golf balls and darts being confiscated from the United fans. On this occasion no weapons were found.

Some supporters have questioned why Greater Manchester police allowed the two sets of supporters to leave at the same time, particularly bearing in mind the volatile way the game had ended. Scholes's winner sparked scenes of wild celebration from the United players and, despite being specifically asked beforehand not to do anything that could provoke the crowd, Gary Neville made a point of grabbing the badge on his shirt as he ran in front of the home supporters.

The police have decided to take a tolerant line and will not raise the issue with United, the view being that the celebrations were not excessive. If anything, the police feel the United players helped keep the visiting fans in the stadium by congregating in front of the away section.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 22, 2010, 05:07:37 PM
Manchester United in need of summer surgery

by James Ducker - the Times Online


Manchester United have already tied up deals for Javier Hernandez, the Mexico striker, and Chris Smalling, the England Under-21 defender, who will move to Old Trafford from Chivas and Fulham respectively on July 1.

Given the struggles of other emerging young players Sir Alex Ferguson has signed in the past three years, however, United supporters remain uncertain about what to expect from Hernandez and Smalling, neither of whom have much pedigree to talk of as yet.

Ferguson said last week that he plans to sign “two more players at the most”, but whether or not that is true, there is a growing feeling among fans that United need another goalkeeper, midfield player and striker to help address the weaknesses that have been exposed during the course of an inconsistent campaign.

Even if United win a record fourth successive Barclays Premier League title, in addition to the Carling Cup secured in February, seven league defeats so far, elimination from the Champions League quarter-finals at the hands of a modest Bayern Munich team, defeat in the third round of the FA Cup by Leeds United and a dependence on Wayne Rooney make it clear that some surgery is required.

Here, timesonline takes a look at who might come and go at Old Trafford this summer.

More...http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2010/04/manchester-united-in-need-of-summer-surgery.html



Also, Manchester Utd Reserves won the Reserve League North title and the Academy is close to following suit.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1222945_uniteds_next_generation_win_league_title

http://www.youtube.com/v/elXCrUuz_is&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2010, 05:37:48 PM
Man United named world's richest club

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Manchester United named world's most valuable club by Forbes for sixth straight year
Real Madrid come second on list, with Arsenal third and Barcelona fourth
Top 20 clubs see their average value decline to $632 million from $691 million
RELATED TOPICS
Manchester United FC
Real Madrid FC
Arsenal FC
(CNN) -- Manchester United were named the world's most valuable football club for the sixth year in a row in Forbes magazine's annual table.

The English Premier League champions, owned by the American Glazer family, are valued at $1.84 billion.

Record nine-time European champions Real Madrid are second in the list with a value of $1.32 billion, with Arsenal third on $1.18 billion.

Reigning Spanish and European champions Barcelona were fourth, followed by the trio of Bayern Munich, Liverpool and AC Milan, who have 16 European Cups between them.

Should San Kroenke buy Arsenal?

Forbes tallied income from revenue streams including broadcast deals, sponsorship and ticket sales.

Overall, the top 20 clubs saw their average value decline to $632 million from $691 million, with 15 teams seeing their values decline.

Juventus and Olympic Marseille had the two biggest increases in value - each gaining 9% on the previous year.

United, who claim to have 333 million followers worldwide, will begin a new sponsorship deal with American insurance giants Aon Corporation next season that will bring in $34 million a year over four years, 50% more than its current deal with AIG.

"The club has really established itself as one of the top brands in world sport," Peter Schwartz, a business sports writer for Forbes, said in a statement.

"New kit deals and great marketing has seen them maintain their status despite all the problems of the global recession."

Despite their success on and off the field, a wealthy group of United fans, known as the Red Knights, are putting together a bid to buy out the Glazers, who have loaded $839 million of debt onto the club.

FORBES' TOP TEN FOOTBALL TEAMS BY VALUE ($MILLION)

1. Manchester United 1,835

2. Real Madrid 1,323

3. Arsenal 1,181

4. Barcelona 1,000

5. Bayern Munich 990

6. Liverpool 822

7. AC Milan 800

8. Juventus 656

9. Chelsea 646

10. Inter Milan 413

 

 
Links referenced within this article

Manchester United FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Manchester_United_FC
Real Madrid FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Real_Madrid_FC
Arsenal FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Arsenal_FC
Should San Kroenke buy Arsenal?
http://worldsport.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/14/should-stan-kroenke-buy-arsenal/

 
Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/04/22/football.united.forbes.value
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2010, 05:16:50 AM
Team News vs Spurs:

No Rio, No Rooney

No Problem or No Premiership?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 24, 2010, 06:14:27 AM
Wetting the field to provide an advantage (or disadvantage) only works if your players aren't slipping around too.

The 2 goals scored against spurs in the last 2 weeks came from low crosses across the 6. We'll see if Man U tries to do the same.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2010, 06:58:40 AM
Man United named world's richest club

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Manchester United named world's most valuable club by Forbes for sixth straight year
Real Madrid come second on list, with Arsenal third and Barcelona fourth
Top 20 clubs see their average value decline to $632 million from $691 million
RELATED TOPICS
Manchester United FC
Real Madrid FC
Arsenal FC
(CNN) -- Manchester United were named the world's most valuable football club for the sixth year in a row in Forbes magazine's annual table.

The English Premier League champions, owned by the American Glazer family, are valued at $1.84 billion.

Record nine-time European champions Real Madrid are second in the list with a value of $1.32 billion, with Arsenal third on $1.18 billion.

Reigning Spanish and European champions Barcelona were fourth, followed by the trio of Bayern Munich, Liverpool and AC Milan, who have 16 European Cups between them.

Should San Kroenke buy Arsenal?

Forbes tallied income from revenue streams including broadcast deals, sponsorship and ticket sales.

Overall, the top 20 clubs saw their average value decline to $632 million from $691 million, with 15 teams seeing their values decline.

Juventus and Olympic Marseille had the two biggest increases in value - each gaining 9% on the previous year.

United, who claim to have 333 million followers worldwide, will begin a new sponsorship deal with American insurance giants Aon Corporation next season that will bring in $34 million a year over four years, 50% more than its current deal with AIG.

"The club has really established itself as one of the top brands in world sport," Peter Schwartz, a business sports writer for Forbes, said in a statement.

"New kit deals and great marketing has seen them maintain their status despite all the problems of the global recession."

Despite their success on and off the field, a wealthy group of United fans, known as the Red Knights, are putting together a bid to buy out the Glazers, who have loaded $839 million of debt onto the club.

FORBES' TOP TEN FOOTBALL TEAMS BY VALUE ($MILLION)

1. Manchester United 1,835

2. Real Madrid 1,323

3. Arsenal 1,181

4. Barcelona 1,000

5. Bayern Munich 990

6. Liverpool 822

7. AC Milan 800

8. Juventus 656

9. Chelsea 646

10. Inter Milan 413

 

 
Links referenced within this article

Manchester United FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Manchester_United_FC
Real Madrid FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Real_Madrid_FC
Arsenal FC
http://topics.edition.cnn.com/topics/Arsenal_FC
Should San Kroenke buy Arsenal?
http://worldsport.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/14/should-stan-kroenke-buy-arsenal/

 
Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/04/22/football.united.forbes.value
 

  .....so all this sky-is-falling hoo-rah-rah!! about the glazers' running the team into an impending doom of a Portsmouth's demise just might be a bit premature then?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on April 24, 2010, 07:16:38 AM
King!!!!
Common Lennon, help out Chelsea  :P
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2010, 07:17:08 AM
King!!!!
Common Lennon, help out Chelsea  :P

Dis game is killin me, lol. Come on Spurs!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 24, 2010, 07:26:17 AM
Steups...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 07:26:32 AM
 :notworthy: NANI
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Babalawo on April 24, 2010, 07:27:03 AM
(http://i.milliyet.com.tr/YeniAnaResim/2010/04/17/derbinin-galibi-90-3-te-belli-oldu--603838.Jpeg)
That goal made him as Giddy as a school girl oui
:o :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 24, 2010, 07:27:14 AM
Dammit, lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 24, 2010, 07:30:49 AM
Weak penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 07:31:45 AM
boom bang UNITED !!! UNITED!!!!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 07:40:26 AM
GLORY GLORY MAN UTD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 24, 2010, 07:40:48 AM
Wood...Man U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :beermug: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2010, 07:51:05 AM
this f**king team could never do anything easy... lord fada lol

Great response...Rafael is a jackass...he needs to go out on loan and grow the f**k up..terrible concentration on the 1-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
d attempt to clear the ball was even more laughable
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 24, 2010, 08:12:18 AM
this f**king team could never do anything easy... lord fada lol

Great response...Rafael is a jackass...he needs to go out on loan and grow the f**k up..terrible concentration on the 1-1


Yeah, what was carrick doing giving King a piggy back? King shouldn't have gotten such a clean look in the first place.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: College on April 24, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
Nice fight back by the Red Devils .... Wonder what would have happened if Gudjohnsen had pulled the trigger when the score was 1-1, maybe he thought it was Shaka in goal...steups
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 24, 2010, 08:55:09 AM
Considering Rooney may be out for the remainder of the season, if Utd can come through the rest of these games, they would truly be deserving of being champions yes.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6113381,00.html


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2010, 08:59:23 AM
Considering Rooney may be out for the remainder of the season, if Utd can come through the rest of these games, they would truly be deserving of being champions yes.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6113381,00.html




Berba,Kiko and Diouf will have to get the job done...We looked flat with the 4-5-1 until we switched to the 4-4-2 with Berba and Kiko in attack...I hope we see out the season like that..especially vs Sunderland...you never know with Wayne though..he'll probably be back next week that cheeky bastard
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 24, 2010, 09:51:13 AM
Considering Rooney may be out for the remainder of the season, if Utd can come through the rest of these games, they would truly be deserving of being champions yes.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6113381,00.html




Berba,Kiko and Diouf will have to get the job done...We looked flat with the 4-5-1 until we switched to the 4-4-2 with Berba and Kiko in attack...I hope we see out the season like that..especially vs Sunderland...you never know with Wayne though..he'll probably be back next week that cheeky bastard


Diouf like he injured or sum yes - cause I haven't seen him in the reserves either.

But if they can't get the required results against Sunderland and Stoke - Rooney or no Rooney - then they probably don't deserve the title anyways yes. All irrelevant unless the Blues drops points of course - but at least Utd are fighting to the end - even if they could have made it a lot easier on themselves by getting more points out of Blackburn and Chelsea.

Never dull or routine moment supporting this team yes :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 24, 2010, 11:08:29 AM
Considering Rooney may be out for the remainder of the season, if Utd can come through the rest of these games, they would truly be deserving of being champions yes.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6113381,00.html




Berba,Kiko and Diouf will have to get the job done...We looked flat with the 4-5-1 until we switched to the 4-4-2 with Berba and Kiko in attack...I hope we see out the season like that..especially vs Sunderland...you never know with Wayne though..he'll probably be back next week that cheeky bastard


Diouf like he injured or sum yes - cause I haven't seen him in the reserves either.

But if they can't get the required results against Sunderland and Stoke - Rooney or no Rooney - then they probably don't deserve the title anyways yes. All irrelevant unless the Blues drops points of course - but at least Utd are fighting to the end - even if they could have made it a lot easier on themselves by getting more points out of Blackburn and Chelsea.

Never dull or routine moment supporting this team yes :)
maybe Diouf got some time off, due to the incident that happened to his brother after the Manchester Derby
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 24, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
Considering Rooney may be out for the remainder of the season, if Utd can come through the rest of these games, they would truly be deserving of being champions yes.


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6113381,00.html




Berba,Kiko and Diouf will have to get the job done...We looked flat with the 4-5-1 until we switched to the 4-4-2 with Berba and Kiko in attack...I hope we see out the season like that..especially vs Sunderland...you never know with Wayne though..he'll probably be back next week that cheeky bastard


Diouf like he injured or sum yes - cause I haven't seen him in the reserves either.

But if they can't get the required results against Sunderland and Stoke - Rooney or no Rooney - then they probably don't deserve the title anyways yes. All irrelevant unless the Blues drops points of course - but at least Utd are fighting to the end - even if they could have made it a lot easier on themselves by getting more points out of Blackburn and Chelsea.

Never dull or routine moment supporting this team yes :)

thats what makes us the best.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on April 24, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 24, 2010, 04:47:34 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     
Try telling that to the haters, they will never accept that Man.U is a top class team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Of course you do!  Can you recount how many of your team's victories, cups and championships were aided and abetted by poor refereeing? cronaldo diving? ferguson's officials' manipulations? (extra time management) etc., etc., etc.....

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger




  Allyuh flattering allyuh selves.  Every single team in this world have people that "hate" them for one reason or another and if Jesus had haters then who is manu?  Loud steups.
Is allyuh lack of class that makes you all look so bad.  From the owners down to the manger to most of the players....to the majority of the fans.  Allyuh have no class. Oh well. Good thing the Champions' League fall back into the hands of the real big sides for now. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 24, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
Man U, the Perfect Club
if only others Clubs were as perfect as them :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Of course you do!  Can you recount how many of your team's victories, cups and championships were aided and abetted by poor refereeing? cronaldo diving? ferguson's officials' manipulations? (extra time management) etc., etc., etc.....

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger




  Allyuh flattering allyuh selves.  Every single team in this world have people that "hate" them for one reason or another and if Jesus had haters then who is manu?  Loud steups.
Is allyuh lack of class that makes you all look so bad.  From the owners down to the manger to most of the players....to the majority of the fans.  Allyuh have no class. Oh well. Good thing the Champions' League fall back into the hands of the real big sides for now. 

Look who talking  about class, gutter rats from Chelsea  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 24, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Of course you do!  Can you recount how many of your team's victories, cups and championships were aided and abetted by poor refereeing? cronaldo diving? ferguson's officials' manipulations? (extra time management) etc., etc., etc.....

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger




  Allyuh flattering allyuh selves.  Every single team in this world have people that "hate" them for one reason or another and if Jesus had haters then who is manu?  Loud steups.
Is allyuh lack of class that makes you all look so bad.  From the owners down to the manger to most of the players....to the majority of the fans.  Allyuh have no class. Oh well. Good thing the Champions' League fall back into the hands of the real big sides for now. 

Since when United unclassy?

We are the flagship of English Football...A manager for 26 years...Loyal players still at the club over two decades...Many British footballers...Successful winning trophies...Consistent...Largest Stadium...Largest Fan Base...we are Class...


Chelsea City and to some extent Arsenal are trying to reach our level of superiority...only Liverpool can boast vs United..and even their fans dont because they know they would be shouting about past glory... and yea I know you gonna say I'm doing the same but our success is recent..Anfield's is Ancient and Chelsea's is cash cash cash and 3 titles..3..pathetic...you'll never be as big or classy as United..I know United have some very annoying fans bandwaggon type people but any club with success does..be it Barca,Chelsea etc etc..Chelsea fans should never bring up bandwaggon stuff..never

You stick to watching your rentboys... when you lot do a hattrick of titles twice within a 11 year span come talk to me... stop studying United and worry about Stoke tomorrow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2010, 06:19:45 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Of course you do!  Can you recount how many of your team's victories, cups and championships were aided and abetted by poor refereeing? cronaldo diving? ferguson's officials' manipulations? (extra time management) etc., etc., etc.....

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger




  Allyuh flattering allyuh selves.  Every single team in this world have people that "hate" them for one reason or another and if Jesus had haters then who is manu?  Loud steups.
Is allyuh lack of class that makes you all look so bad.  From the owners down to the manger to most of the players....to the majority of the fans.  Allyuh have no class. Oh well. Good thing the Champions' League fall back into the hands of the real big sides for now. 

Look who talking  about class, gutter rats from Chelsea  :devil:

   :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh lucky is you!! BITCH!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
 :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2010, 06:24:37 PM
I think is time some peeps learn to calm down a bit,Man U is not no ordinary team and we keep panicking all the time,look at the history of this team and is year in year out, teams are falling by the way side and Man U consistently is a major threat in every league/tournament across the globe but some tend to treat them like they just another team,when ever they win a game/tournament it's always a lot of ifs and buts,how lucky they are but they continue to be a threat to every one.

It's not an easy feat achieve what they achieve,they have injury problems and loose players just like everybody else,they Man U is a one man team but with or without Ronaldo they still win,with or without Rooney it's the same,they are consistant,this is sport things will never be the same all the time.     

Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Of course you do!  Can you recount how many of your team's victories, cups and championships were aided and abetted by poor refereeing? cronaldo diving? ferguson's officials' manipulations? (extra time management) etc., etc., etc.....

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger




  Allyuh flattering allyuh selves.  Every single team in this world have people that "hate" them for one reason or another and if Jesus had haters then who is manu?  Loud steups.
Is allyuh lack of class that makes you all look so bad.  From the owners down to the manger to most of the players....to the majority of the fans.  Allyuh have no class. Oh well. Good thing the Champions' League fall back into the hands of the real big sides for now. 

Since when United unclassy?

We are the flagship of English Football...A manager for 26 years...Loyal players still at the club over two decades...Many British footballers...Successful winning trophies...Consistent...Largest Stadium...Largest Fan Base...we are Class...


Chelsea City and to some extent Arsenal are trying to reach our level of superiority...only Liverpool can boast vs United..and even their fans dont because they know they would be shouting about past glory... and yea I know you gonna say I'm doing the same but our success is recent..Anfield's is Ancient and Chelsea's is cash cash cash and 3 titles..3..pathetic...you'll never be as big or classy as United..I know United have some very annoying fans bandwaggon type people but any club with success does..be it Barca,Chelsea etc etc..Chelsea fans should never bring up bandwaggon stuff..never

You stick to watching your rentboys... when you lot do a hattrick of titles twice within a 11 year span come talk to me... stop studying United and worry about Stoke tomorrow

  Your ignorance is three-dimensional! Impressive!  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 24, 2010, 06:55:24 PM
(http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/3D-glasses-404_675044c.jpg) :devil:

yeah, doh mind me, Man U is very consistant ;)
damn, ah wish KJ was bussin de net
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 24, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 24, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

Every side benefits from some decisions over the course of the season - do some more than others? Probably - there is no Football God balancing them out. No one keeps track of all the ramifications of all the different errors (official or otherwise) in the league. Many fans will be blind/biased towards their own teams' fortune in comparison to others' and the same goes for injuries suffered.

Utd deserved at least a draw against Chelsea at the Bridge but deserved nothing at Old Trafford. So it goes though sometimes - but the title is rarely won (or necessarily deserved) by the better head to head matchups or the top 4 table. Bragging rights mean nothing if you don't do it against every other team in the league - and that's what it's coming down to now.

Few expected or predicted much out of Utd this season - and in a sense they became a victim of their own surprising success when they didn't live up to newfound expectation and hope. The much bandied about slumped finally arrived at possibly the most inopportune time -  but the disappointments against Bayern, Chelsea & Blackburn aside - the team is ending the season fighting, and that's all a Utd fan can ask at this pt.

Chelsea were always likely to be favourites with Utd's loss of Ronaldo & Tevez - but honestly neither team has put together the results to separate themselves definitively this season. If Utd win it, it would have to go down as one of Ferguson's greatest (if not the greatest) ever aside from the 2 records. We go see who holds their nerve down the stretch yes -this been one of the most competitive (and inconsistent) League campaigns from top through bottom that I've ever witnessed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2010, 03:54:01 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

And on the topic of injustice in ManU-Chelsea games, lets not forget the Flash Kick dat Johnny Evans hit Drogba in the first game, earning Drogba a yellow card for chest-trapping Evans' studs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2010, 06:26:00 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

And on the topic of injustice in ManU-Chelsea games, lets not forget the Flash Kick dat Johnny Evans hit Drogba in the first game, earning Drogba a yellow card for chest-trapping Evans' studs.

u mean the offensive foul for attempting to get a call by the referee by jumping into evans? rightly deserved yellow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 08:58:05 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

And on the topic of injustice in ManU-Chelsea games, lets not forget the Flash Kick dat Johnny Evans hit Drogba in the first game, earning Drogba a yellow card for chest-trapping Evans' studs.

u mean the offensive foul for attempting to get a call by the referee by jumping into evans? rightly deserved yellow

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

  When ah talk about manu and their fans having no class, I forgot to include them having no sense, too. 
I didn't know there was such a category as "offensive fouls" in football.  What next, traveling and technical fouls, too?

Yuh right, boy.  Drogba had absolutely NO RIGHT attempting to get that ball, but allyuh lucky in trute is not basketball playin' here....evans woulda get his face mashed in by some one ah Drogba teammates.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2010, 09:09:53 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

Every side benefits from some decisions over the course of the season - do some more than others? Probably - there is no Football God balancing them out. No one keeps track of all the ramifications of all the different errors (official or otherwise) in the league. Many fans will be blind/biased towards their own teams' fortune in comparison to others' and the same goes for injuries suffered.

Utd deserved at least a draw against Chelsea at the Bridge but deserved nothing at Old Trafford. So it goes though sometimes - but the title is rarely won (or necessarily deserved) by the better head to head matchups or the top 4 table. Bragging rights mean nothing if you don't do it against every other team in the league - and that's what it's coming down to now.

Few expected or predicted much out of Utd this season - and in a sense they became a victim of their own surprising success when they didn't live up to newfound expectation and hope. The much bandied about slumped finally arrived at possibly the most inopportune time -  but the disappointments against Bayern, Chelsea & Blackburn aside - the team is ending the season fighting, and that's all a Utd fan can ask at this pt.

Chelsea were always likely to be favourites with Utd's loss of Ronaldo & Tevez - but honestly neither team has put together the results to separate themselves definitively this season. If Utd win it, it would have to go down as one of Ferguson's greatest (if not the greatest) ever aside from the 2 records. We go see who holds their nerve down the stretch yes -this been one of the most competitive (and inconsistent) League campaigns from top through bottom that I've ever witnessed.

agree with everything here.. :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2010, 10:32:45 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

And on the topic of injustice in ManU-Chelsea games, lets not forget the Flash Kick dat Johnny Evans hit Drogba in the first game, earning Drogba a yellow card for chest-trapping Evans' studs.

u mean the offensive foul for attempting to get a call by the referee by jumping into evans? rightly deserved yellow

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

  When ah talk about manu and their fans having no class, I forgot to include them having no sense, too. 
I didn't know there was such a category as "offensive fouls" in football.  What next, traveling and technical fouls, too?

Yuh right, boy.  Drogba had absolutely NO RIGHT attempting to get that ball, but allyuh lucky in trute is not basketball playin' here....evans woulda get his face mashed in by some one ah Drogba teammates.

so u never playing and a man hit u a moving screen violation yet?  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 11:07:38 AM
Unfortunately hatred is a hell of a thing... If we win the league this year I feel they will have no choice to admit it but considering this is our transition year and we are on top of the league currently I'm very impressed with United's challenge on the trophy front this year..we won the League Cup..we blew the CL..and we are heading to a crazy finish in the league...If Chelsea win it they deserve it but they would have won it by 2 referee errors in the first game in Stamford Bridge when Drogba pushed Brown before Terry's header and of course the offside at Old Trafford...but sometimes you need that luck

Big side is Big side...next year we'll be even stronger



I eh go lie nuh, yuh just cant make up bullshit like this.. So Chelsea was lucky to beat man u twice over the course of the season ???

Breds, a cup is one thing but the league don't lie. If yuh rest dong de rose tinted glasses for a minute you should admit that Chelsea was better than Manchester United in both fixtures and deserved to win.. Because they were the better team.. Regardless of whether you think the goals were debatable, which team had more chances and was more dominant over the 2 games? Yuh make yuh own luck bro, if them goal didnt score another one probably would have.

If yuh want to talk luck, why yuh don't talk about all the dubious penalty kicks, phantom injury time and deflected own goal that Man U get in the first half of the season to keep them within distance?

And on the topic of injustice in ManU-Chelsea games, lets not forget the Flash Kick dat Johnny Evans hit Drogba in the first game, earning Drogba a yellow card for chest-trapping Evans' studs.

u mean the offensive foul for attempting to get a call by the referee by jumping into evans? rightly deserved yellow

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

  When ah talk about manu and their fans having no class, I forgot to include them having no sense, too. 
I didn't know there was such a category as "offensive fouls" in football.  What next, traveling and technical fouls, too?

Yuh right, boy.  Drogba had absolutely NO RIGHT attempting to get that ball, but allyuh lucky in trute is not basketball playin' here....evans woulda get his face mashed in by some one ah Drogba teammates.

so u never playing and a man hit u a moving screen violation yet?  :o

  It's just that your claim of Drogba trying to commit an "offensive foul" to go after a ball he had every tight to go after is completely preposterous and (expectantly) classless of you.  Evans clearly and unnecessarily stamp the man in his chest and got away with it.  It has to be one of the worst pieces of refereeing (and linesman non-supporting) I have seen this season.  I could only imagine hummuch allyuh and alex woulda be carryin' on wit if the roles were reversed. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 25, 2010, 11:23:53 AM
allyuh bamsee winking in here ent?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 25, 2010, 11:54:33 AM
yours to lose, ours to win
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2010, 02:37:05 PM
yours to lose, ours to win

exactly...we were always in a position to hope on other results after we blew it... I have no faith in Liverpool because they are pathetic so If they get a result vs Chelsea it would be a pleasant surprise ...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 25, 2010, 03:01:40 PM
yours to lose, ours to win

exactly...we were always in a position to hope on other results after we blew it... I have no faith in Liverpool because they are pathetic so If they get a result vs Chelsea it would be a pleasant surprise ...

I am not convinced we have what it takes to get a win at Anfield. Liverpool have not lost there in ages now. If they are prepared to sit back and defend they could easily stifle us, as they are defending well nowadays. I am hoping Benitez will pick an attacking side and let both sides shoot it out.

At the same time, Rooney being out again is a bonus. You were lucky against Spurs (I think Nani is a very good player, but should have been dealt with much better) and hopefully Sunderland will have learnt from Spurs' mistakes and keep a closer eye on Nani - beyond him you have no real offensive threat. Not sure we can depend on Steve Bruce to help us out though  :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
yours to lose, ours to win

   It was always ours to lose and we seemed to have done our best to lose it in trute.  Chelsea was always the better team this season but we allowed lots of unnecessary dropped points against: Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham, Aston Villa, @ ManCity  (the loss to them @ Stamford Bridge was a wash!!) and Hull........any two or three points from these games should have made the difference in already closing out the title already.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
yours to lose, ours to win

   It was always ours to lose and we seemed to have done our best to lose it in trute.  Chelsea was always the better team this season but we allowed lots of unnecessary dropped points against: Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham, Aston Villa, @ ManCity  (the loss to them @ Stamford Bridge was a wash!!) and Hull........any two or three points from these games should have made the difference in already closing out the title already.

yea but same thing could be said for United's dropped points...so whoever loses will naturally look back at points dropped...

may the best team win yes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 25, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
Rooney wins Player of the Year
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/waynerooneyPFAaward_2446212.jpg)

Wayne Rooney has been voted player of the year by his peers in the Professional Footballers' Association.

The Manchester United striker, who has scored 34 goals this season, beat off competition from Didier Drogba, Carlos Tevez and Cesc Fabregas.

Rooney, 24, said: "It's a great feeling to win because it's voted for by the players. It's a great honour and I'm really proud."

The young player of the year award was won by Aston Villa's James Milner.

Rooney has blossomed at Old Trafford this season after the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez.

He has played in a more advanced role than in previous seasons and has added powerful heading ability to his overall game.

But he injured ankle ligaments in the first leg of United's Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich, and missed Saturday's 1-0 win over Tottenham with a groin injury sustained in training.
   
However, Rooney insisted he will be fit for the World Cup and indeed hopes to play in United's last league game, against Stoke.

"The groin will be fine for the World Cup, there are no worries about that," he said. "I'm hoping to play for United in the last game of the season.

"I remember coming here in 2005 and 2006 to win the young player of the year award. I saw the players winning the main one and it's something I've aimed for since."

The striker paid tribute to United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and the influence he has had on his career.

"Sir Alex is a great manager who has really brought me on as a player since I joined United. His hunger passes through to the players.

"It's great to see that he's pushing 70 and he hasn't changed a bit. I'm sure he'll be at United a long time yet."


Rooney was also nominated for the young player award but Milner, also 24, was voted winner.

A string of fine performances and an ability to play in a number of positions have made him a front-runner for a position in Fabio Capello's squad for the World Cup.

Milner said: "I've been moved into the middle and that suits me as it helps me influence the game a bit more. Sometimes when you are wide on the right you can't get yourself into it."

Former Leeds and South Africa defender Lucas Radebe, 41, won the PFA Merit Award.

"Sport can change the world. Football has played such a big part in lifting my community," he said. "I'm very proud to get such a great award."

Premier League team of the year: Joe Hart (Man City, Birmingham on loan), Branislav Ivanovic (Chelsea), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Richard Dunne (Aston Villa), Patrice Evra (Man Utd), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), James Milner (Aston Villa), Darren Fletcher (Man Utd), Antonio Valencia (Man Utd), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), Didier Drogba (Chelsea).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8643305.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WestCoast on April 25, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
Well done Shrek  :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2010, 07:19:40 PM
yours to lose, ours to win

   It was always ours to lose and we seemed to have done our best to lose it in trute.  Chelsea was always the better team this season but we allowed lots of unnecessary dropped points against: Wigan, West Ham, Birmingham, Aston Villa, @ ManCity  (the loss to them @ Stamford Bridge was a wash!!) and Hull........any two or three points from these games should have made the difference in already closing out the title already.

yea but same thing could be said for United's dropped points...so whoever loses will naturally look back at points dropped...

may the best team win yes

  Yeah, that is very true, but for the team that was deemed to be the overall better team with the greater expectations this season, the ruing of dropped points would tend to reverberate a little more on our side of the room this season. At this point, may the better team (or the team with the lighter remaining schedule  ;)) win in trute.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2010, 09:16:15 PM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 25, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
Rafael shows his relief against Spurs:


http://www.youtube.com/v/M7wQLQDMTyo&fmt=18



He may have made some dodgy decisions in the last few weeks - but much of that is borne of inexperience and trying too hard. I rate both him and his brother though - and I hope that both them and De Laet are given ample opportunity to carve out spots as first team regulars in the coming years.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 07:52:31 AM
If we lose the title I would have preferred it did not go to Chelski, but unfortunately I think they have been better than we have been this year in the games that mattered hence the goal difference and one point deficit. If they win you know we are going to hear the BS about 'we got out trophy back" nonsense.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 26, 2010, 08:09:10 AM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:

I was watchin dat too eh!  Imagine 20+ consistent goal scorer Lampard eh make dat team.  All I could say is WOW!  I think an argument can also surely be made for Malouda over Valencia as well.  I like AV but he wasn't better nor did he contribute more to his team this year than Malouda did for us.

So what would you have us say Giggsy?  Man U was better and we lucky to get it?!! :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 08:28:31 AM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:

I was watchin dat too eh!  Imagine 20+ consistent goal scorer Lampard eh make dat team.  All I could say is WOW!  I think an argument can also surely be made for Malouda over Valencia as well.  I like AV but he wasn't better nor did he contribute more to his team this year than Malouda did for us.

So what would you have us say Giggsy?  Man U was better and we lucky to get it?!! :rotfl:

Aah, what are you talking about? I said we were not good enough not that Chelski was lucky. You scored more goals and have won more games. It is a bottomline thing; and I am not going to make excuses if we lose the title-the past three years were better than everybody else including Chelski and the numbers at the end of the day did not lie. But it has been so long for your team so it appears that some of you Chelski/ABU fans are making up for lost time getting your licks in with your petty comments because you are finally in a postion to win the league. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 26, 2010, 09:05:11 AM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:

I was watchin dat too eh!  Imagine 20+ consistent goal scorer Lampard eh make dat team.  All I could say is WOW!  I think an argument can also surely be made for Malouda over Valencia as well.  I like AV but he wasn't better nor did he contribute more to his team this year than Malouda did for us.

So what would you have us say Giggsy?  Man U was better and we lucky to get it?!! :rotfl:

Aah, what are you talking about? I said we were not good enough not that Chelski was lucky. You scored more goals and have won more games. It is a bottomline thing; and I am not going to make excuses if we lose the title-the past three years were better than everybody else including Chelski and the numbers at the end of the day did not lie. But it has been so long for your team so it appears that some of you Chelski/ABU fans are making up for lost time getting your licks in with your petty comments because you are finally in a postion to win the league. Enjoy!

Last year we were in a position to win the league and GAVE it to Man United just like we are trying our utmost best to give it to Man United again this year. This year there was no doubt that Chelsea was by far the best team in th eleague. Most all the games we gave up was us not stepping up (except for Man City) and trying to cruise to victory.

Valencia did what this season? This PFA team of the year is a joke.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2010, 09:08:16 AM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:

I was watchin dat too eh!  Imagine 20+ consistent goal scorer Lampard eh make dat team.  All I could say is WOW!  I think an argument can also surely be made for Malouda over Valencia as well.  I like AV but he wasn't better nor did he contribute more to his team this year than Malouda did for us.

So what would you have us say Giggsy?  Man U was better and we lucky to get it?!! :rotfl:

Why are you all surprised? I'm not...

Allyuh does really take on that PFA team of the year bullshit which more often than not is an exercise in Manchester United balls licking??

I remember the year Man Utd won back the title from Chelsea when they put out a PFA team with 8 man utd players.. All kinda shitty John O'Shea making the side. Now you have Chelsea on the brink of the title you would think there would be the requisite representation..

Who in their right mind would take Darren Fletcher over Lampard? And Malouda could very well be Chelsea's player of the season yet they have Antonio Valencia there, who has been good for the most part but inconsistent and insignificant in big games.. As a matter of fact, at a point in time he was getting bench for Nani. I would even take Steven Pienaar in front of Valencia this year.

Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2010, 09:28:55 AM
Fletcherinho better than Lampard.  :rotfl:

I was watchin dat too eh!  Imagine 20+ consistent goal scorer Lampard eh make dat team.  All I could say is WOW!  I think an argument can also surely be made for Malouda over Valencia as well.  I like AV but he wasn't better nor did he contribute more to his team this year than Malouda did for us.

So what would you have us say Giggsy?  Man U was better and we lucky to get it?!! :rotfl:

Why are you all surprised? I'm not...

Allyuh does really take on that PFA team of the year bullshit which more often than not is an exercise in Manchester United balls licking??

I remember the year Man Utd won back the title from Chelsea when they put out a PFA team with 8 man utd players.. All kinda shitty John O'Shea making the side. Now you have Chelsea on the brink of the title you would think there would be the requisite representation..

Who in their right mind would take Darren Fletcher over Lampard? And Malouda could very well be Chelsea's player of the season yet they have Antonio Valencia there, who has been good for the most part but inconsistent and insignificant in big games.. As a matter of fact, at a point in time he was getting bench for Nani. I would even take Steven Pienaar in front of Valencia this year.

Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:



Come nah man; there was a year when Chelksi didn't win the title and they had more players on that team than United. how many time times did John Terry got a place and he missed a lots of games due to injury. I agree that some of the selections each year have not always reflected the player who actually should be on it but this is not the first year. A lot of things go into play why one player is selected over another and it has nothing to do with quality of play but possibly who the play plays for as well as how they act.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 27, 2010, 04:49:12 PM
The Rise of Nani: Official ManUtd.Com Compilation

http://www.youtube.com/v/jKnMz_GseBM&fmt=18

The most improved player for Utd this season - to the point where he has a shot at starting for some years to come.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on April 27, 2010, 05:10:50 PM
Football is a funny game,i always wondered how/why Utd used to play without this guy,i always saw him as a very effective player from day one.People only see and rate who they want to rate,when Ronaldo was there nobody saw Rooney,is the same with Nani as long as Rooney there no one will see him,Rooney not being there is a blessing in disguise  for a lot of guys to see the light.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 27, 2010, 05:41:53 PM
Football is a funny game,i always wondered how/why Utd used to play without this guy,i always saw him as a very effective player from day one.People only see and rate who they want to rate,when Ronaldo was there nobody saw Rooney,is the same with Nani as long as Rooney there no one will see him,Rooney not being there is a blessing in disguise  for a lot of guys to see the light.


Nani only just starting to be productive on the field which has helped Rooney produce. Even though Ronaldo starred most United fans recognized that Rooney's sacrificing contributed to him being able to have such a free run. Nani needs to have a full season of being productive before I can believe he can be relied on. The problem for him is that he plays better on the right side but because Valencia is only able to play on that side Nani has to play on the left to accomodate him. Hopefully by next season Valencia will be able do some swapping with him. United lacks a natural left sided player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2010, 06:51:19 PM
nani cah cross for shit
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 27, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Anybody see the new shirts for next season? They are similar in design from 1980-lets hope it is not a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 27, 2010, 08:19:25 PM
nani cah cross for shit

he has a problem with poor decision making  also
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 27, 2010, 09:39:06 PM
nani cah cross for shit

His game (crossing, decision making etc) probably isn't as tight and decisive as Valencia - but he's visibly improved this season with the confidence of more playing time and the boss's backing. He has 9 assists in 25 league and CL games this season - which is decent, especially considering he often plays out of his most comfortable position.

He can yet score more goals and work on his mental strength and focus - but while he will never be Ronaldo - I now believe he can be a solid starter for us, where not too long ago he seemed destined to be on his way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 28, 2010, 12:33:51 AM
Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

PFA is voted for by the players. So unless u are alleging vote rigging not sure how this point is relevant.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 28, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

PFA is voted for by the players. So unless u are alleging vote rigging not sure how this point is relevant.


^^^^^^
This. United cozy with the FA?  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 28, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

PFA is voted for by the players. So unless u are alleging vote rigging not sure how this point is relevant.

I was wondering if to say dat eh..buh i decide i eh go bother.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 28, 2010, 10:10:13 AM
Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

PFA is voted for by the players. So unless u are alleging vote rigging not sure how this point is relevant.

I was wondering if to say dat eh..buh i decide i eh go bother.

Ok my bad, i got that one wrong.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on April 28, 2010, 10:16:10 AM
Utter and complete nonsense but then again is not like Chelsea have anyone inside the FA..  :bs:

PFA is voted for by the players. So unless u are alleging vote rigging not sure how this point is relevant.

I was wondering if to say dat eh..buh i decide i eh go bother.

Ok my bad, i got that one wrong.

Here I thought you were talking about the Premier league team of the year and not the PFA footballer of the year, which I think is different...but if you were referring to the PFA footballer of the year, then yeah, you got it wrong  :D


Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2010, 10:23:43 AM
nani cah cross for shit

His game (crossing, decision making etc) probably isn't as tight and decisive as Valencia - but he's visibly improved this season with the confidence of more playing time and the boss's backing. He has 9 assists in 25 league and CL games this season - which is decent, especially considering he often plays out of his most comfortable position.

He can yet score more goals and work on his mental strength and focus - but while he will never be Ronaldo - I now believe he can be a solid starter for us, where not too long ago he seemed destined to be on his way.

come to think about it, CR started the same way as well........couldnt cross, poor decisions etc.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 28, 2010, 03:45:55 PM
nani cah cross for shit

His game (crossing, decision making etc) probably isn't as tight and decisive as Valencia - but he's visibly improved this season with the confidence of more playing time and the boss's backing. He has 9 assists in 25 league and CL games this season - which is decent, especially considering he often plays out of his most comfortable position.

He can yet score more goals and work on his mental strength and focus - but while he will never be Ronaldo - I now believe he can be a solid starter for us, where not too long ago he seemed destined to be on his way.

come to think about it, CR started the same way as well........couldnt cross, poor decisions etc.


Haha yeah but Ronaldo is just more talented in basically every aspect. Physically he's just a goalscoring specimen as well, and can hurt you in numerous ways. If Nani can catch up to Ronaldo's mental ruthlessness and make use of the gifts he DOES have - den I would be more than satisfied with that yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 30, 2010, 04:03:18 AM
Exclusive Fergie interview: Selling Jaap Stam was my biggest mistake as Man United boss

Published 08:31 23/04/10 By David McDonnell   (4) Recommend (1)


Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted his biggest mistake as Manchester United boss - selling defender Jaap Stam at the peak of his powers.

In an exclusive interview released to MirrorFootball, Fergie admitted the sale of Stam to Lazio in 2001 for £16.5million was one of the rare blunders in his glittering Old Trafford reign.

Fergie: Reports I'm quitting are "absolute rubbish"! 

And although Fergie has since made his peace with Stam, who was sold against the backdrop of Old Trafford dressing-room revelations in his autobiography, the United boss admitted he is still troubled by selling the big Dutchman.


"It was one of the mistakes I made – hopefully I haven't made too many – but that was one," said Fergie.

"I got this offer from Lazio for £18.5million. Was it £18.5million? No, £16.5million I think it was, and I says, "Can't turn it down. He's 30 years of age.

"I thought if we could get Laurent Blanc for a year or so and bring the young ones through – like Wes Brown and John O'Shea - but it backfired.

"Jaap and I have got on well together. We spoke the last time we were over in Holland at the Ajax Tournament. I spoke to him for a long time there and everything’s fine."

Stam, who is returning to Old Trafford on May 1 for a charity fundraising event, said he was no longer bitter at being forced out of United.

"I'd really enjoyed myself at the club and thought I'd been doing well up to that point so it was hard at the time I left," said Stam.

"It all happened very quickly because of the Champions League deadline – Lazio needed to register me as their player.

"It wasn't an easy moment, but that's what happens in football - players come and go and unfortunately it was me who had to go then.

"I had a great time at United – I met some great people and I had a good relationship with everybody at the club – the boss, players, staff and fans.

"I'm really looking forward to coming back. It's been a while since I was at Old Trafford, especially as a player and it’ll be great to see some old friends.

"I loved my time at United and I’m sure I’ll get that same buzz when I pull on the red shirt.

"I still remember how it felt when you stepped out of the tunnel and you saw the crowd and it was always a great feeling. It’ll be a thrill to be back there.

"I've played in some great teams but the Treble side is the best I’ve been involved with. There was a great balance to the team and we always believed in ourselves.

Stam is one of six heroes from United's 1999 Treble-winning side taking part in a charity match to raise money for the Manchester United Foundation.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Andy Cole, Denis Irwin, Ronny Johnsen and Dwight Yorke will join Stam against a side containing former Liverpool trio Ian Rush, Peter Beardsley and John Barnes as well as celebrities, including Ronan Keating.

"I wonder what they're doing after," joked Fergie when asked about Cole and Yorke.

"Keep an eye on the two of them. But, seriously, they were a fantastic partnership that year with I think it was 52 goals between them.

"I think they were the best in Europe, they were unbelievable. It was a partnership that just took off immediately.

"I don't know why, the chemistry or something just clicked between the two of them but it developed into an unbelievable partnership.

"So much so that I found difficulty, great difficulty, in keeping Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer warm and happy, that's how effective Cole and Yorke were.

"I was very fortunate to have four great strikers like that when you think about it, really fortunate.

"And yes, it created headaches at time, you know, picking the right two but that season Cole and Yorke were unbelievable.

"For most of the time Cole and Yorke's form dictated exactly who we were going to be playing all the time."

Speaking ahead of the charity match, Fergie said: "I'm starting the game and then rushing off to Sunderland. I'm looking forward to it and I just hope there's a good turn-out.

"The players who will be showing up deserve that recognition because their place in the club's history is a firm one.

"And it's for a great cause. Half of the money is going to the Manchester United Foundation.

"The club does fantastic work through the foundation, through their work with various charities and their great connection with UNICEF."

*Fergie was speaking ahead of United Relief Live: The Big Red Family Day Out, which is being held at Old Trafford on May 1.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Selling-Jaap-Stam-was-my-biggest-mistake-as-Manchester-United-boss-and-Dwight-Yorke-and-Andrew-Cole-were-best-partnership-in-Europe-says-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Exclusive-interview-article402091.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TRUwarrior on April 30, 2010, 09:31:30 AM
Exclusive Fergie interview: Selling Jaap Stam was my biggest mistake as Man United boss

Published 08:31 23/04/10 By David McDonnell   (4) Recommend (1)


Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted his biggest mistake as Manchester United boss - selling defender Jaap Stam at the peak of his powers.

In an exclusive interview released to MirrorFootball, Fergie admitted the sale of Stam to Lazio in 2001 for £16.5million was one of the rare blunders in his glittering Old Trafford reign.

Fergie: Reports I'm quitting are "absolute rubbish"! 

And although Fergie has since made his peace with Stam, who was sold against the backdrop of Old Trafford dressing-room revelations in his autobiography, the United boss admitted he is still troubled by selling the big Dutchman.


"It was one of the mistakes I made – hopefully I haven't made too many – but that was one," said Fergie.

"I got this offer from Lazio for £18.5million. Was it £18.5million? No, £16.5million I think it was, and I says, "Can't turn it down. He's 30 years of age.

"I thought if we could get Laurent Blanc for a year or so and bring the young ones through – like Wes Brown and John O'Shea - but it backfired.

"Jaap and I have got on well together. We spoke the last time we were over in Holland at the Ajax Tournament. I spoke to him for a long time there and everything’s fine."

Stam, who is returning to Old Trafford on May 1 for a charity fundraising event, said he was no longer bitter at being forced out of United.

"I'd really enjoyed myself at the club and thought I'd been doing well up to that point so it was hard at the time I left," said Stam.

"It all happened very quickly because of the Champions League deadline – Lazio needed to register me as their player.

"It wasn't an easy moment, but that's what happens in football - players come and go and unfortunately it was me who had to go then.

"I had a great time at United – I met some great people and I had a good relationship with everybody at the club – the boss, players, staff and fans.

"I'm really looking forward to coming back. It's been a while since I was at Old Trafford, especially as a player and it’ll be great to see some old friends.

"I loved my time at United and I’m sure I’ll get that same buzz when I pull on the red shirt.

"I still remember how it felt when you stepped out of the tunnel and you saw the crowd and it was always a great feeling. It’ll be a thrill to be back there.

"I've played in some great teams but the Treble side is the best I’ve been involved with. There was a great balance to the team and we always believed in ourselves.

Stam is one of six heroes from United's 1999 Treble-winning side taking part in a charity match to raise money for the Manchester United Foundation.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Andy Cole, Denis Irwin, Ronny Johnsen and Dwight Yorke will join Stam against a side containing former Liverpool trio Ian Rush, Peter Beardsley and John Barnes as well as celebrities, including Ronan Keating.

"I wonder what they're doing after," joked Fergie when asked about Cole and Yorke.

"Keep an eye on the two of them. But, seriously, they were a fantastic partnership that year with I think it was 52 goals between them.

"I think they were the best in Europe, they were unbelievable. It was a partnership that just took off immediately.

"I don't know why, the chemistry or something just clicked between the two of them but it developed into an unbelievable partnership.

"So much so that I found difficulty, great difficulty, in keeping Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer warm and happy, that's how effective Cole and Yorke were.

"I was very fortunate to have four great strikers like that when you think about it, really fortunate.

"And yes, it created headaches at time, you know, picking the right two but that season Cole and Yorke were unbelievable.

"For most of the time Cole and Yorke's form dictated exactly who we were going to be playing all the time."

Speaking ahead of the charity match, Fergie said: "I'm starting the game and then rushing off to Sunderland. I'm looking forward to it and I just hope there's a good turn-out.

"The players who will be showing up deserve that recognition because their place in the club's history is a firm one.

"And it's for a great cause. Half of the money is going to the Manchester United Foundation.

"The club does fantastic work through the foundation, through their work with various charities and their great connection with UNICEF."

*Fergie was speaking ahead of United Relief Live: The Big Red Family Day Out, which is being held at Old Trafford on May 1.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Selling-Jaap-Stam-was-my-biggest-mistake-as-Manchester-United-boss-and-Dwight-Yorke-and-Andrew-Cole-were-best-partnership-in-Europe-says-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Exclusive-interview-article402091.html

Letting Tevez go and Buying Berbatov...recent mistakes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 30, 2010, 10:12:16 AM


Letting Tevez go and Buying Berbatov...recent mistakes

from the outside it looking so, but tevez new boss getting trouble from him. Remember fergie made the offer but tevez's pride made him refuse. He is a boss player, and hopefully he will get a bit smarter
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 30, 2010, 10:49:26 AM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on April 30, 2010, 11:03:38 AM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 30, 2010, 11:48:47 AM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 30, 2010, 11:54:42 AM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?

bale.

geico have an apb out on them
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 30, 2010, 12:08:07 PM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?

bale.

geico have an apb out on them
Luke Chadwick had them all beat...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 30, 2010, 12:35:06 PM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?

bale.

geico have an apb out on them


Dude he has to grow his hair so it can cover his ears to make it smaller and it still pointing out! Spock's son!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 30, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?

bale.

geico have an apb out on them
Luke Chadwick had them all beat...


I thought fletcher was related with his mullett and bony face but he got a big boy haircut and it left Luke by him self.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on April 30, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Tevez not a mistake; he is never happy always complaining. Not worth the aggravation or money.

come nah man, he derserve alot more dan united was givin 'im...................he after all d world's last living Neanderthal ..............or atleast he looks like one ???

Who would an ugly contest between him and Ribery?

bale.

geico have an apb out on them
Luke Chadwick had them all beat...


I thought fletcher was related with his mullett and bony face but he got a big boy haircut and it left Luke by him self.


Benayoun, Bullard :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 01, 2010, 11:01:48 AM

Evra: Fergie will go until he "dies on the bench"

By Soccernet staff


Patrice Evra thinks Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson will carry on in football until he "dies on the bench".

Evra says Ferguson told the players rumours about his impending retirement were rubbish and that he will be around for many years to come.

The French full back told the Daily Mail: "The manager will die on the bench. It is his destiny." Evra went on to explain that Ferguson called a meeting to refute reports that he was prepared to walk away from Old Trafford.

"It was before a game. He just started talking about how people had been saying he was going to retire. And he asked us if we seriously thought he would just be sitting in his house watching the TV, listening to the radio and doing nothing.

"He said, 'No chance. I have worked all my life and I will work until I die'. For a moment he laughed. And then he said, 'This is my victory. I cannot walk away from this'.

"Before a game he always tells a small story. Sometimes he talks about when he was the Aberdeen manager. Another time he went round the dressing room and talked about the different players.

"The fact that here we were, from Korea, France, Serbia, Bulgaria, from different parts of England and the world, and how we had all come together to be in the same place. He talked about our stories. The different obstacles we had overcome to get here. It gave the players this huge lift."

Evra reveals that Ferguson is still prepared to unleash the hair dryer treatment - something the 28-year-old discovered in only his first game for the club, against rivals Manchester City.

"He took me off after 45 minutes. I could tell he was angry. He just looked at me, deadly serious, and said, 'Mr Evra, now just watch and see what is English football. And learn'."

He added: "Alex Ferguson is a culture. And he is a winner. Football is like a pyramid. To reach the top is easy. It is staying there that is difficult. He does not let you rest. He is always hungry for the next game.

"I remember one match when we were winning 2-0 by half-time and he still gave us the hair-dryer because we should have been four or five up. He reminded us that people had paid money to watch us. 'Why don't you respect them?' he screamed.

"He demands the highest standards. If you play a good game for United, you sit on the bench. Only if you play an amazing game do you stay in the team. Those are the rules and the players accept them."

Evra also revealed that his close friend Carlos Tevez "still loves United", despite playing for their bitter rivals Manchester City.

"When he was playing for us he was such a professional," he said. "He played with his heart. I know him. I still go to his house and I know he still loves United. I don't want to make a problem for him with City, but it suited his identity here.

"Even when he wasn't playing, he would come on and change the game. He would always fight. I tell him he should still be with us. If, one day, he wins the championship and the Champions League with City, I will say, 'Fine, you made a good move, Carlito'. But until then... I just speak the truth."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 01, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
Full Evra Interview...It's long but worth the read :beermug:

One day Patrice Evra will write a book. 'I already have a title in mind,' he says. 'From the street to Manchester United.'
If his first major interview with an English newspaper is anything to go by, it will be quite a read.
An extraordinary rags to riches story told by a footballer who offers a rare insight into life at Old Trafford under the guidance of Sir Alex Ferguson.

Playing with fire: Evra has been through the mill at Manchester United
Evra is a wonderful raconteur. A deep, intelligent thinker who in the hour or so we spent together at United's Carrington training base this week articulated as well as anyone during Ferguson's 24-year tenure what it means to play for the world's most famous club, for arguably the world's greatest manager.
Fluent in five languages and now working hard to master Korean so that he can converse with his close friend Ji-Sung Park, he tackles a variety of subjects.

From his clashes with Chelsea to the long and winding road that eventually took him to the place he now considers his spiritual home; from that infamous blast at Arsenal last season, when he referred to them as 'babies', to why Carlos Tevez should still be a United player.
Not to mention his transition from striker to one of the two best left backs in the world.
'It was only after I arrived at United that I finally accepted that I would be a left back,' he says.
His take on United is fascinating. He refers to Ferguson as 'a culture' and talks of 'pulling on history' with his United shirt. He speaks of 'the fire' that not only burns inside him but also the man he believes will never walk away from the club.
'The manager will die on the bench,' he declares with a broad smile. 'It is his destiny.'

Staying power: Sir Alex Ferguson will not retire, insists Evra
Earlier this season, Ferguson addressed the subject of retirement with his players. 'It was before a game,' Evra says.
'He just started talking about how people had been saying he was going to retire. And he asked us if we seriously thought he would just be sitting in his house watching the TV, listening to the radio and doing nothing.
'He said, "No chance. I have worked all my life and I will work until I die". For a moment he laughed. And then he said, "This is my victory. I cannot walk away from this".
'Before a game he always tells a small story. Sometimes he talks about when he was the Aberdeen manager. Another time he went round the dressing room and talked about the different players. The fact that here we were, from Korea, France, Serbia, Bulgaria, from different parts of England and the world, and how we had all come together to be in the same place. He talked about our stories. The different obstacles we had overcome to get here. It gave the players this huge lift.'
Evra recalls the first time he incurred his manager's wrath. It was his debut, a difficult encounter with Manchester City that United lost 3-1.
'He took me off after 45 minutes,' says Evra.
'I could tell he was angry. He just looked at me, deadly serious, and said, "Mr Evra, now just watch and see what is English football. And learn".'
Evra did more than that. He decided to learn about United, too. 'I got a load of DVDs,' he says.
'About the Munich disaster and the Busby Babes, about Bobby Charlton, George Best and Denis Law, about Cantona. The whole story of the club. You meet these people around the club and I wanted to know who they were. What they had done for the club. Out of respect. Because when you shake the hand of Sir Bobby Charlton you can feel the legend.
'All the young players here need to understand the history of the club. After I watched those DVDs I realised I needed to respect the shirt. I needed to respect the story. Every time I play that is in my head. What a privilege it is to play for Manchester United. When you pull on the shirt you are pulling on history, and I say thanks to God that I play for this club. To be able to come in and train here. To work with legends like Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes.

Top of the pots: Proud Evra says it is delight sharing the shirt with legends like Ryan Giggs at Old Trafford
'When I arrived here people asked me what excited me most. I said it was not training with Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney but players like Giggs and Scholes. They are the history of the club. Giggs trains like a player who has never won anything in his career. His hunger. His desire to win, even on the training pitch.'
The same desire remains in Ferguson. Even at 68, after everything he has won.
'Alex Ferguson is a culture,' he says. 'And he is a winner. Football is like a pyramid. To reach the top is easy. It is staying there that is difficult. He does not let you rest. He is always hungry for the next game.
'I remember one match when we were winning 2-0 by half-time and he still gave us the hair-dryer because we should have been four or five up. He reminded us that people had paid money to watch us. "Why don't you respect them?" he screamed.
'He demands the highest standards. If you play a good game for United, you sit on the bench. Only if you play an amazing game do you stay in the team. Those are the rules and the players accept them.'
Even in this modern era of millionaire footballers, they also accept that infamous, aforementioned hair-dryer.
'After the Christmas party we had a couple of years ago, when there were the stories, he called us to a meeting and just killed everyone,' he says.
'The experienced players. The young players. It was our fault and he told us, and reminded us of the responsibility we have. He managed that situation with his temper, but he doesn't always have to because the players here have so much respect for him. If he thinks the team is sleeping he will still use the hair-dryer, though.'

Baptism of fire: Evra was hauled off after 45 minutes on his United debut against arch-rivals City
Back in January 2006, after his move from Monaco to United for a £5.5million fee in what now has to rank among Ferguson's finest buys, Evra was having a tough time.
'Playing for Manchester United was something I was not prepared for,' he says.
'At Monaco I was playing in front of 7,000. At United I was suddenly playing in front of 76,000. Not even a Champions League final and playing for France prepared me for it. When I got to Manchester I discovered a new job. It's not just football. In that first game, against City, I don't think I made too many big mistakes. But I remember standing by the post for a corner thinking, "Wow, football is so quick here". I realised if you want to play in England first you need to be strong. After that you enjoy the football.

'I was down afterwards, but not to the point where I didn't think I could succeed here. I still had confidence in my ability. But joining in the January did not make it easy. And it was not easy for my family. My son was three months old, we were living in a hotel in central Manchester for five months and the weather was not the same as Monaco! It was like a big slap in the face.'
He remembers being dropped for a game against Liverpool.
'The manager told me I would not be playing but, because my English was not so good, I didn't fully understand. I got changed and I went out for the warm-up on the pitch. Then Carlos Queiroz calls me over. "Patrice, what are you doing? You are not on the bench today." It killed me. It was so embarrassing.'

Unlucky for some: Now a regular for France, Evra's poor form in 2006 meant he missed out on the World Cup in Germany
A difficult six months cost him a place in the France squad for the 2006 World Cup.
'I was so angry with myself, seeing my team there without me,' he says.
'I thought, "That's it. I need to do something about this". I needed to get stronger for English football. So over the summer, I worked hard in the gym to make myself stronger. I was so hungry that by the time I arrived back for pre-season I was ready. I didn't need a pre-season. When we went to South Africa for a tournament, I played very well. Mike Phelan pulled me to one side and said, "Now you are a United player".'
He soon became a regular, securing a place ahead of Gabriel Heinze and Mikael Silvestre. Until, that is, it came to the 2007 FA Cup final against Chelsea.

'It was the only bad memory of the season,' he says.
'A few days before the game a story appeared in the papers - an interview with someone from my quartier (Parisian neighbourhood) - and it was all about how I had escaped a life of drugs and crime by becoming a footballer. It was not true but I remember the boss and Carlos that morning. "You won't be able to play in the final now," they said, laughing. "We have to protect the reputation of the club".

'They were joking, but when it came to the morning of the final the manager told me he was playing Heinze for tactical reasons. I have no doubt it was for that but I was gutted. He told me not to worry, that I would get to go on and win the game for us. After 10 minutes he told me to warm up, and for 80 minutes I stayed on the touchline. I was on fire. But I never got on. I had played every game that season, been voted the best left back by the PFA. Suddenly I was ready to quit the club.
'But then I calmed down, and I thought, "Maybe this is a test. This is life at United. You cannot expect to always be in the team". It is something I tell the younger players. I tell them that story.'

Still close: Evra says close friend Carlos Tevez still loves United despite moving on to rivals City last summer

He never had to tell Carlos Tevez, a player who remains among his closest friends and someone he believes should still be at United.
'When he was playing for us he was such a professional,' says Evra.
'He played with his heart. I know him. I still go to his house and I know he still loves United. I don't want to make a problem for him with City, but it suited his identity here.

'Even when he wasn't playing, he would come on and change the game. He would always fight. I tell him he should still be with us. If, one day, he wins the championship and the Champions League with City, I will say, "Fine, you made a good move Carlito". But until then... I just speak the truth.'
Born in Senegal but brought up in the same Parisian suburb as Thierry Henry - his father worked for the Senegalese Embassy - Evra is the product of a huge family where you clearly had to be heard to be seen.

'I am one of 25 brothers and sisters,' he says.
'I think it is fair to say that my father (married and divorced three times) did not watch a lot of TV!' For Evra it was only ever football. 'It was all I wanted to do,' he says.
'I would be out there, in the street, in the rain and snow, on my own. I never wore a shirt. Never really had a team. I liked Romario but I never had an idol. I just loved to play. I had this passion for the game.

'It was not easy for me. I had to fight to get where I am today. I never went to Clarefontaine or anything like that. Never went anywhere where they gave you everything. Your boots, your kit. I was from a tough area, Les Ulis. Not a bad area. As I said, it is not true that I had to escape a life with gangsters. I am proud of where I am from and my parents provided for all of us.
'But people thought I was crazy to pursue this dream. At school I remember completing a paper about what I wanted to do for a job. I put footballer and the teacher told me that being a footballer is not a job. She told me only one in 300 kids make it as a footballer. And she would say, "Do you think you will be the one?" And I said, "Yes, I do". And my classmates would sit there and laugh at me. I ignored them.'
Although there was a flirtation with the youth system at Paris St Germain, it not until he was 17 that he really got noticed.
'I was a striker playing in a tournament organised by my local sports centre,' he says.

'There was this Italian there and he asked me if I would go to Torino for a trial. They were in Serie B.
'I gave him my phone number and three days later he called and spoke to my mum. She said, "No way, we have no idea who this guy is". But then my brother said, "Look, Patrice is doing nothing, let him go".
'I spent 10 days there, they asked me to stay as a member of the youth team. But then I was approached by a scout from Marsala, a team from Sicily in the third division, and he offered me the chance to become a professional. He said I would get a house, and I said OK. I remember arriving at their training camp and putting on the tracksuit and the flip-flops and looking at myself in the mirror. It was like paradise.

'To this day it is the best feeling I have had in football. Not winning the championship or the Champions League but that moment, when I was 17 years old, and I had finally become a professional footballer. I had made it. I had proved people wrong. It was an amazing club. Like a big family. I was the only black guy in the club and there were people asking to have their picture taken with me because they had never seen a black guy. But I could be walking down the street and I would be invited into people's houses to join them for a meal.'
From Marsala he went briefly to Monza and then to Nice, where he was deployed at left back for the first time.
'It was my first game there and I was on the left wing when the left back got injured,' he says.

In it to win it: Evra is hoping Chelsea slip up and United regain their Premier League crown this term
'The manager, Sandro Salvioni, asked me to play there and then told me I'd be there again for the next game, against Strasbourg. I said no way, that I was a forward. "If you want to be in the team you play there," he said, so I agreed.'
Nice were promoted that season, with Evra named the best left back in Ligue 2.
'We won the championship and then I was signed by Monaco, by Didier Deschamps,' he says.

'I still wanted to play left wing but Deschamps said, "No, you are a good left back". And I was voted best left back in that division, too. We did well, reaching the Champions League final in 2004; the same year I made it into the France team.'
At Monaco his sparky personality caught the attention of Prince Albert, Evra forming what his team-mates considered an unlikely friendship.
'They could not believe he would send me text messages,' he says.

'But we got on well, and before the Champions League final he said he hoped we could win it for his father. Sadly we lost and Prince Rainier died the next year, but I dedicated our Champions League win in 2008 to him.'
Not that Evra has ever lost touch with his roots; with his identity. In his mind he will always be the fighter from the streets. Someone in whom the fire still rages.

'I still have the fire inside,' he says.
'And I'll admit that sometimes I can't always control it. You can talk about the altercation with the groundsmen at Chelsea as an example, although that day I think I managed to control my fire a bit.

Battle at the Bridge: Evra was caught up in controversy following United's defeat to Chelsea in 2008
'It seems every time I play against Chelsea there is something wrong. But really, it is coincidence. I love to play against Chelsea and I love to win against them because they are a massive rival for the trophies. But I also respect Chelsea.

'I remember Eric Cantona saying that while he sometimes could not control his fire he would not have been the same player without it. I am the same. I need the fire.

'But I am not a bad boy. When I go into a challenge I go to win the ball. Never to hurt someone. It's why I was upset when Fabregas did it to me at the end of last season. It was probably why I said afterwards that Arsenal were like babies. I was upset because of the challenge. If you want to hurt someone, you invite them outside, away from the pitch, away from people and the referee. Just me and you. You don't try to hurt people on the pitch.'

Rags to riches: Evra plans to one day release a book about his extraordinary life
For Evra it is simply a matter of respect. He respects Ashley Cole as another brilliant left back, even if he does point out that he has again been voted the best in his position in the Premier League by fellow professionals.


But most of all he respects United. The club, the players, past and present, and the manager. Never has he been prouder in his four years at the club than when Ferguson first asked him to be captain. 'What pleased me most was not being captain but that my team-mates were so happy for me,' he says.

'From the moment I arrived here it felt like it was my destiny, because it was only when I became a United player that I found my true identity. This place suited my character. The people here were on my wavelength and I was able to be me.'
That was the interview. Now bring on the book.



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 01, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 01, 2010, 03:07:01 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 01, 2010, 03:10:07 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

So what talent Scholes lacked or lacks? lem me hear dis one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 01, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 01, 2010, 08:43:44 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 02, 2010, 03:22:55 AM
One of the top 10 signings of the season - a less talented but more honest and hard-working version of Ronaldo. If only he had a left foot; him and Nani would be some force to be reckoned with interchanging on those wings...



http://www.youtube.com/v/hkmfBGP1wEY&fmt=18



http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6648480
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
One of the top 10 signings of the season - a less talented but more honest and hard-working version of Ronaldo. If only he had a left foot; him and Nani would be some force to be reckoned with interchanging on those wings...



http://www.youtube.com/v/hkmfBGP1wEY&fmt=18

he needs to shoot more
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 06:15:37 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2010, 06:23:55 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  

well I already knew you were a c**t but thanks for proving it to everyone...

take some quotes about this so called overrated footballer

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."


Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Peter Schmeichel : "Still the best player in that United midfield."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

Michael Carrick : "Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is."

Michael Carrick : "He is a legend and he's going to be remembered for a long time. Just to play alongside him and learn from him has been an absolute pleasure. I think he is a footballer's footballer; he has been at this level for so long. As long as he is part of us we always feel we have a chance. We appreciate the way he goes about his business. I have never met a character like Scholesy; certainly not someone who is that good."

Park Ji Sung when asked by the club’s official home page which United player he would like to see in the red shirt of the Taeguk Warriors : “It has to be Paul Scholes.”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."

Brian Kidd : "Paul Scholes had the best football brain I'd ever seen in a kid. Let's face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own."

Rio Ferdinand : "I can honestly say Paul is the best player in the England squad. For me he is the complete player."

Rio Ferdinand : "For me, it's Paul Scholes. He'll do ridiculous things in training like say, "You see that tree over there?" - it'll be 40 yards away - "I'm going to hit it". And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."

Phil Neville : "Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England's key player. For me, he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo."

Gary Neville : "I wouldn't swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best."

Gary Neville : "Paul Scholes is the best player I've ever played with. There's talent in every part of his game."

Steve Bruce : "He's the best player in Britain in my opinion and he has to get himself fit just before we are due to play at Old Trafford. I cannot pay Paul a bigger compliment than to say that he's the most complete footballer in the country. The best bar none."

Roy Keane : "An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being."

George Best : "To be honest I think England have lost their best player. Certainly he's the most consistent and naturally gifted player we've had for a long, long time."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "I am sorry for England because they don't have any player like him. You can talk about others but there is no one else like him. He is the best technical player England has without any question. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy"

Sir Bobby Charlton : "He’s always so in control and pinpoint accurate with his passing – a beautiful player to watch."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "Paul Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them - and I knew he was one of them. That's why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He's got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world."

Sir Alex Ferguson : Sir Alex Ferguson gave evidence in court on behalf of one of his former trainees and listened to the prosecution barrister's list of United's top players.

"You've missed Paul Scholes - and he's my best player," Ferguson chided her.




WHO THE f**k IS YOU ON THAT LIST???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 06:42:40 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  

well I already knew you were a c**t but thanks for proving it to everyone...

take some quotes about this so called overrated footballer

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."


Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Peter Schmeichel : "Still the best player in that United midfield."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

Michael Carrick : "Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is."

Michael Carrick : "He is a legend and he's going to be remembered for a long time. Just to play alongside him and learn from him has been an absolute pleasure. I think he is a footballer's footballer; he has been at this level for so long. As long as he is part of us we always feel we have a chance. We appreciate the way he goes about his business. I have never met a character like Scholesy; certainly not someone who is that good."

Park Ji Sung when asked by the club’s official home page which United player he would like to see in the red shirt of the Taeguk Warriors : “It has to be Paul Scholes.”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."

Brian Kidd : "Paul Scholes had the best football brain I'd ever seen in a kid. Let's face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own."

Rio Ferdinand : "I can honestly say Paul is the best player in the England squad. For me he is the complete player."

Rio Ferdinand : "For me, it's Paul Scholes. He'll do ridiculous things in training like say, "You see that tree over there?" - it'll be 40 yards away - "I'm going to hit it". And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."

Phil Neville : "Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England's key player. For me, he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo."

Gary Neville : "I wouldn't swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best."

Gary Neville : "Paul Scholes is the best player I've ever played with. There's talent in every part of his game."

Steve Bruce : "He's the best player in Britain in my opinion and he has to get himself fit just before we are due to play at Old Trafford. I cannot pay Paul a bigger compliment than to say that he's the most complete footballer in the country. The best bar none."

Roy Keane : "An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being."

George Best : "To be honest I think England have lost their best player. Certainly he's the most consistent and naturally gifted player we've had for a long, long time."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "I am sorry for England because they don't have any player like him. You can talk about others but there is no one else like him. He is the best technical player England has without any question. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy"

Sir Bobby Charlton : "He’s always so in control and pinpoint accurate with his passing – a beautiful player to watch."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "Paul Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them - and I knew he was one of them. That's why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He's got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world."

Sir Alex Ferguson : Sir Alex Ferguson gave evidence in court on behalf of one of his former trainees and listened to the prosecution barrister's list of United's top players.

"You've missed Paul Scholes - and he's my best player," Ferguson chided her.




WHO THE f**k IS YOU ON THAT LIST???

    Now take away all dem English and manu quotes and what are you left with?  Imagine Alan Shearer saying scholes is good tackler.   He must be was drinkin' watered down drinks in trotters.  English c**ts like yourself ALWAYS rate their own players much higher than they are, so I couldn't give a f**k about you and your "list". Zidane being obviously overly nice to say scholes is "the greatest midfielder of his generation" because scholes ain't deliverin' the kinda football that Zidane himself has delivered in his career. Even YOUR dumb, little c**t know that scholes couldn't shine Seedorf shoes or wash Zidane jock strap. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2010, 07:21:01 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  

well I already knew you were a c**t but thanks for proving it to everyone...

take some quotes about this so called overrated footballer

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."


Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Peter Schmeichel : "Still the best player in that United midfield."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

Michael Carrick : "Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is."

Michael Carrick : "He is a legend and he's going to be remembered for a long time. Just to play alongside him and learn from him has been an absolute pleasure. I think he is a footballer's footballer; he has been at this level for so long. As long as he is part of us we always feel we have a chance. We appreciate the way he goes about his business. I have never met a character like Scholesy; certainly not someone who is that good."

Park Ji Sung when asked by the club’s official home page which United player he would like to see in the red shirt of the Taeguk Warriors : “It has to be Paul Scholes.”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."

Brian Kidd : "Paul Scholes had the best football brain I'd ever seen in a kid. Let's face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own."

Rio Ferdinand : "I can honestly say Paul is the best player in the England squad. For me he is the complete player."

Rio Ferdinand : "For me, it's Paul Scholes. He'll do ridiculous things in training like say, "You see that tree over there?" - it'll be 40 yards away - "I'm going to hit it". And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."

Phil Neville : "Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England's key player. For me, he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo."

Gary Neville : "I wouldn't swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best."

Gary Neville : "Paul Scholes is the best player I've ever played with. There's talent in every part of his game."

Steve Bruce : "He's the best player in Britain in my opinion and he has to get himself fit just before we are due to play at Old Trafford. I cannot pay Paul a bigger compliment than to say that he's the most complete footballer in the country. The best bar none."

Roy Keane : "An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being."

George Best : "To be honest I think England have lost their best player. Certainly he's the most consistent and naturally gifted player we've had for a long, long time."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "I am sorry for England because they don't have any player like him. You can talk about others but there is no one else like him. He is the best technical player England has without any question. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy"

Sir Bobby Charlton : "He’s always so in control and pinpoint accurate with his passing – a beautiful player to watch."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "Paul Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them - and I knew he was one of them. That's why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He's got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world."

Sir Alex Ferguson : Sir Alex Ferguson gave evidence in court on behalf of one of his former trainees and listened to the prosecution barrister's list of United's top players.

"You've missed Paul Scholes - and he's my best player," Ferguson chided her.




WHO THE f**k IS YOU ON THAT LIST???

    Now take away all dem English and manu quotes and what are you left with?  Imagine Alan Shearer saying scholes is good tackler.   He must be was drinkin' watered down drinks in trotters.  English c**ts like yourself ALWAYS rate their own players much higher than they are, so I couldn't give a f**k about you and your "list". Zidane being obviously overly nice to say scholes is "the greatest midfielder of his generation" because scholes ain't deliverin' the kinda football that Zidane himself has delivered in his career. Even YOUR dumb, little c**t know that scholes couldn't shine Seedorf shoes or wash Zidane jock strap. 

When did I say Scholes better than Zidane?

I just didnt agree with your statement that Paul Scholes is overrated

So f**k off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 08:01:23 AM

Listen, small mag, for little c**ts like you, where the EPL and manu are the be-all and end-all of football, men like bobby charlton, gary neville and michael f**kin carrick could say the sky is red and allyuh want to preserve it for posterity and quote it as gospel.  So of COURSE when you could get a few people to say nice things about scholes yuh want to run here wit yuh jackassness showin' me a "list" like I give a f**k. Well, here's a list.  A short one, no less but a list of players that come to MY mind when little boys like you goin on and on about how "intelligent and gifted" paul scholes is.  A paul scholes that can be made to look so ordinary by any one of these players or any superior team like Barca, Real mardrid, Inter Milan and Bayern Munich. 

Michael Laudrup
Luis Enrique
Frank Rijkaard
Ruud Gullit
Gilberto Silva
Esteban Cambiasso
Cesc Fàbregas
Rivaldo
Michael Essien
Zinedine Zidane
Michel Platini
Kaka
Clarence Seedorf
Leonardo
Patrick Vieira
Ronaldinho
Edgar Davids
Claude Makelele
Juan Román Riquelme
Juan Sebasttien Veron


  Now THESE players are intelligent and gifted.  paul scholes is useful.......and yes, he has scored some very nice goals.  But some of them same people that you quote from your fancy list, like Veron, yuh think they pickin' scholes ahead of themselves on a all time greatest XI squad? On ANY squad, for that matter? Ha ha! Boy f**k off and go and watch yuh big side beat up on Sunderland nah.   

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 02, 2010, 10:13:47 AM
Could berbatov b any worse?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
1-0 FT

Win vs Stoke and hope Wigan draw or beat Chelsea and we will win the title....unfortunately I highly doubt Chelsea will blow this... early congrats here..no complaints

but it's not won yet...90 minutes anything can happen...So Forza Wigan..I writing Scotty a message now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 11:12:12 AM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.



Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  


 :bs: When Lampard's legs go what does he have left? You won't see him picking teams apart with his passes while sitting in midfield. By the way a lot of great players have done stupid things and have gotten sent off as a result doesn't mean they lack football intelligence.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 02, 2010, 11:19:51 AM
Once again Berbatov has shown why he does not belong at Man.U... he had some easy chances to score and did nothing with it. Berbatov and Carrick should be sold in the summer, with Obertan and Gibson going out on loan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 02, 2010, 11:23:26 AM
That header Berbatov made was well saved tho, if the defender wasnt there it would have gone in. Maybe it just wasnt his day an he keeps telling MUTV that he wants to stay at the club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 11:39:51 AM
The interesting thing with Berbatov was he had a chance to go to United but he choose Spurs cause he felt he wasn't ready to play for such a big side. I guess he still isn't ready. If he had half of Evra's heart, half of Scholes' composure, with that skill he would be fit to wear the shirt.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 02, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
"Rafa Benitez, we want you to stay" - Chelsea fans give stick to both the Reds and Utd in one chant.


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/garynevilleorchelseasign20100502_275x155.jpg)


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/stevengerrardchelseawoe20100502_500x281.jpg)



Berbatov should head to Anfield yes - he would fit in nicely with the level of football there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 12:16:02 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.



Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  


 :bs: When Lampard's legs go what does he have left? You won't see him picking teams apart with his passes while sitting in midfield. By the way a lot of great players have done stupid things and have gotten sent off as a result doesn't mean they lack football intelligence.



  You saying that like if scholes' sending offs, bookings and poor, poor tackling have been one or two isolated incidents. Please! Go and look at his whole career in the EPL and CL and get back to me.  What do I care about Lampard?  He and scholes are in the same category as far as I'm concerned: highly valuable to their team and to the EPL, and somewhat valuable to England, I guess, but nowhere near what I would call a great player.  How could I watch the men whose names I gave y'all to read (look at them again, I left off men like Robinho just to be fair) how can you or any manu fan, if y'all would be honest with y'all selves, have watched them fellas play and want to bring paul scholes into the conversation with them?  Allyuh does get too tie-up wit dis manu side.  Dey does run tru the EPL like prune juice and allyuh does get giddy and want to start makin' allyuh players stars in a constellation, but ease allyuh self.  Lampard is a far more prolific scorer than he is, yes, penalties excluded, so y'all could have 'im, love 'im and do whatever y'all want to do wit 'im.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 12:32:09 PM
nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.



Wow..I hope this was sarcasm...If not then you are truly blind by the hate..

Evra possibly the best Left Back in the world alongside Ashley Cole....Paul Scholes one of the most intelligent gifted midfielders to ever grace a football pitch .... I really do hope that was sarcasm my boy

No, my boy, paul scholes, like so many English players, is overrated.  He doesn't even have the football intelligence of Frank Lampard, and I wouldn't rate Lampard as all that.
 "... Intelligent gifted..." midfielders don't STILL be making the kinds of foolish tackles he still making, especially at this stage in his career.  They simply don't have to.  But then again, when you say he is intelligent and gifted, you MUST mean by EPL standards, and you just may have a point there.  But I quicker use them terms for men like....Clarence Seedorf, ZZ, Andrea Pirlo, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Claude Makelele, Wesley Sneijder, etc.....but maybe I'm being a little unfair.....the names I call there are really among the greatest of this generation.....in any event, paul scholes, while he worked very well within the English senior and manu systems, is an overrated, head-case of a yellow card waiting to happen.


nice read. With his love for the club, this man will go on the be a legend along side giggs and scholes.

  Naaaahhh.....he doh have the talent to last that long........but then again, neither did scholes, so you just might be right......at some point.

Chow talking shit again  :devil:, nothing to see here, carry on folks.

he nervous bout tomorrow


Not even!  


 :bs: When Lampard's legs go what does he have left? You won't see him picking teams apart with his passes while sitting in midfield. By the way a lot of great players have done stupid things and have gotten sent off as a result doesn't mean they lack football intelligence.



  You saying that like if scholes' sending offs, bookings and poor, poor tackling have been one or two isolated incidents. Please! Go and look at his whole career in the EPL and CL and get back to me.  What do I care about Lampard?  He and scholes are in the same category as far as I'm concerned: highly valuable to their team and to the EPL, and somewhat valuable to England, I guess, but nowhere near what I would call a great player.  How could I watch the men whose names I gave y'all to read (look at them again, I left off men like Robinho just to be fair) how can you or any manu fan, if y'all would be honest with y'all selves, have watched them fellas play and want to bring paul scholes into the conversation with them?  Allyuh does get too tie-up wit dis manu side.  Dey does run tru the EPL like prune juice and allyuh does get giddy and want to start makin' allyuh players stars in a constellation, but ease allyuh self.  Lampard is a far more prolific scorer than he is, yes, penalties excluded, so y'all could have 'im, love 'im and do whatever y'all want to do wit 'im.


Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 03:18:57 PM
Great to see Hagreaves back!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 02, 2010, 03:46:42 PM
"Rafa Benitez, we want you to stay" - Chelsea fans give stick to both the Reds and Utd in one chant.


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/garynevilleorchelseasign20100502_275x155.jpg)


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/stevengerrardchelseawoe20100502_500x281.jpg)



Berbatov should head to Anfield yes - he would fit in nicely with the level of football there.
Did I miss something? what does the Gary Neville or Chelsea sign mean?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
"Rafa Benitez, we want you to stay" - Chelsea fans give stick to both the Reds and Utd in one chant.


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/garynevilleorchelseasign20100502_275x155.jpg)


(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0502/stevengerrardchelseawoe20100502_500x281.jpg)



Berbatov should head to Anfield yes - he would fit in nicely with the level of football there.
Did I miss something? what does the Gary Neville or Chelsea sign mean?


I think dealing with gary Neville winning versus Chelski. I guess the worse choice would be Gary nev.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 04:03:44 PM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 04:09:51 PM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:

Lets bet that Anderson becomes better than Obi mikel.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 04:22:04 PM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:

Lets bet that Anderson becomes better than Obi mikel.

  I doh want to take yuh munny.....or whatever it is yuh puttin up fuh a wager. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2010, 04:31:33 PM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:

Lets bet that Anderson becomes better than Obi mikel.

  I doh want to take yuh munny.....or whatever it is yuh puttin up fuh a wager. 

Yu win i wear an obi jersey/chelski i win you wear a united anderson jersey.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 02, 2010, 04:36:30 PM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:

Lets bet that Anderson becomes better than Obi mikel.

  I doh want to take yuh munny.....or whatever it is yuh puttin up fuh a wager. 

Yu win i wear an obi jersey/chelski i win you wear a united anderson jersey.

  Listen, anderson need to start an international career before he could be mentioned in the same library as my boy and they play two different roles for their respective clubs.  How can you measure one's progress against the other?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 03, 2010, 03:50:57 PM
KRAP – Keep Rafa At ‘Pool

May 3, 2010 - The Republik of Mancunia Blog


“When I signed a contract ­extension last year, it was because the squad was good and I was told the money would be there,” said Benitez. “In the end, things changed. We have had a bad season ­because the conditions of my job changed. Hopefully things will be different in the future, but at the moment I can’t talk about the future because I don’t know what is going on here. Because of the history of Liverpool, everyone expects us to be at the top all of the time. But the real situation is that we are competing under different conditions because of the situation with money and the stadium. You can push for a while, but you can’t keep on pushing and closing the gap. If we do everything to perfection then maybe this club could challenge. But if United, Chelsea and Arsenal also do everything perfectly then it becomes very difficult because of the situation this club is in. It is a big difference. You only have to look at the players we had on the bench against Atletico to see that.”


(http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Transfer-League.jpg)




FACTS


1. Six teams are above Liverpool in the league. Only three of those clubs (Chelsea, City and Spurs) have spent more money than Liverpool in Rafa Benitez’s six seasons at the club.

2. Six teams are above Liverpool in the league. Only two of those clubs (Chelsea and City) have a larger net spend than Liverpool in Rafa Benitez’s six seasons at the club.

3. Everton are four points behind Liverpool, but Benitez has spent £147,129,500 than them in the last six years, and has a net spend of £85,649,500 more.

4. Benitez has spent £55,580,000 more than Sir Alex Ferguson in the past six years. In that time, Liverpool have won one European Cup, one FA Cup and one UEFA Super Cup. United have won three league titles, one European Cup, three League Cups and one FIFA World Club Cup.

5. Even if you imagine United didn’t make £68m on Cristiano Ronaldo, Liverpool would still have a net spend of £8m more than United.

To ensure United reach number 19 before Liverpool, it is imperative that Rafa Benitez stays their manager and continues to piss money they don’t have up the wall.


In Rafa we trust!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 03, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
KRAP – Keep Rafa At ‘Pool

May 3, 2010 - The Republik of Mancunia Blog


“When I signed a contract ­extension last year, it was because the squad was good and I was told the money would be there,” said Benitez. “In the end, things changed. We have had a bad season ­because the conditions of my job changed. Hopefully things will be different in the future, but at the moment I can’t talk about the future because I don’t know what is going on here. Because of the history of Liverpool, everyone expects us to be at the top all of the time. But the real situation is that we are competing under different conditions because of the situation with money and the stadium. You can push for a while, but you can’t keep on pushing and closing the gap. If we do everything to perfection then maybe this club could challenge. But if United, Chelsea and Arsenal also do everything perfectly then it becomes very difficult because of the situation this club is in. It is a big difference. You only have to look at the players we had on the bench against Atletico to see that.”


(http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Transfer-League.jpg)




FACTS


1. Six teams are above Liverpool in the league. Only three of those clubs (Chelsea, City and Spurs) have spent more money than Liverpool in Rafa Benitez’s six seasons at the club.

2. Six teams are above Liverpool in the league. Only two of those clubs (Chelsea and City) have a larger net spend than Liverpool in Rafa Benitez’s six seasons at the club.

3. Everton are four points behind Liverpool, but Benitez has spent £147,129,500 than them in the last six years, and has a net spend of £85,649,500 more.

4. Benitez has spent £55,580,000 more than Sir Alex Ferguson in the past six years. In that time, Liverpool have won one European Cup, one FA Cup and one UEFA Super Cup. United have won three league titles, one European Cup, three League Cups and one FIFA World Club Cup.

5. Even if you imagine United didn’t make £68m on Cristiano Ronaldo, Liverpool would still have a net spend of £8m more than United.

To ensure United reach number 19 before Liverpool, it is imperative that Rafa Benitez stays their manager and continues to piss money they don’t have up the wall.


In Rafa we trust!

....I don't really like having anything in common with manu fans :devil: but.....this is a worthy cause, however short lived it turns out (he is DEFINITELY out!).....where do I sign up?!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 03, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Rafa = Jim Jones-and most of Liverstool fans still drinkin the kool aid.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 03, 2010, 08:08:56 PM
Exclusive Fergie interview: Selling Jaap Stam was my biggest mistake as Man United boss

Published 08:31 23/04/10 By David McDonnell   (4) Recommend (1)


Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted his biggest mistake as Manchester United boss - selling defender Jaap Stam at the peak of his powers.

In an exclusive interview released to MirrorFootball, Fergie admitted the sale of Stam to Lazio in 2001 for £16.5million was one of the rare blunders in his glittering Old Trafford reign.

Fergie: Reports I'm quitting are "absolute rubbish"! 

And although Fergie has since made his peace with Stam, who was sold against the backdrop of Old Trafford dressing-room revelations in his autobiography, the United boss admitted he is still troubled by selling the big Dutchman.


"It was one of the mistakes I made – hopefully I haven't made too many – but that was one," said Fergie.

"I got this offer from Lazio for £18.5million. Was it £18.5million? No, £16.5million I think it was, and I says, "Can't turn it down. He's 30 years of age.

"I thought if we could get Laurent Blanc for a year or so and bring the young ones through – like Wes Brown and John O'Shea - but it backfired.

"Jaap and I have got on well together. We spoke the last time we were over in Holland at the Ajax Tournament. I spoke to him for a long time there and everything’s fine."

Stam, who is returning to Old Trafford on May 1 for a charity fundraising event, said he was no longer bitter at being forced out of United.

"I'd really enjoyed myself at the club and thought I'd been doing well up to that point so it was hard at the time I left," said Stam.

"It all happened very quickly because of the Champions League deadline – Lazio needed to register me as their player.

"It wasn't an easy moment, but that's what happens in football - players come and go and unfortunately it was me who had to go then.

"I had a great time at United – I met some great people and I had a good relationship with everybody at the club – the boss, players, staff and fans.

"I'm really looking forward to coming back. It's been a while since I was at Old Trafford, especially as a player and it’ll be great to see some old friends.

"I loved my time at United and I’m sure I’ll get that same buzz when I pull on the red shirt.

"I still remember how it felt when you stepped out of the tunnel and you saw the crowd and it was always a great feeling. It’ll be a thrill to be back there.

"I've played in some great teams but the Treble side is the best I’ve been involved with. There was a great balance to the team and we always believed in ourselves.

Stam is one of six heroes from United's 1999 Treble-winning side taking part in a charity match to raise money for the Manchester United Foundation.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Andy Cole, Denis Irwin, Ronny Johnsen and Dwight Yorke will join Stam against a side containing former Liverpool trio Ian Rush, Peter Beardsley and John Barnes as well as celebrities, including Ronan Keating.

"I wonder what they're doing after," joked Fergie when asked about Cole and Yorke.

"Keep an eye on the two of them. But, seriously, they were a fantastic partnership that year with I think it was 52 goals between them.

"I think they were the best in Europe, they were unbelievable. It was a partnership that just took off immediately.

"I don't know why, the chemistry or something just clicked between the two of them but it developed into an unbelievable partnership.

"So much so that I found difficulty, great difficulty, in keeping Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer warm and happy, that's how effective Cole and Yorke were.

"I was very fortunate to have four great strikers like that when you think about it, really fortunate.

"And yes, it created headaches at time, you know, picking the right two but that season Cole and Yorke were unbelievable.

"For most of the time Cole and Yorke's form dictated exactly who we were going to be playing all the time."

Speaking ahead of the charity match, Fergie said: "I'm starting the game and then rushing off to Sunderland. I'm looking forward to it and I just hope there's a good turn-out.

"The players who will be showing up deserve that recognition because their place in the club's history is a firm one.

"And it's for a great cause. Half of the money is going to the Manchester United Foundation.

"The club does fantastic work through the foundation, through their work with various charities and their great connection with UNICEF."

*Fergie was speaking ahead of United Relief Live: The Big Red Family Day Out, which is being held at Old Trafford on May 1.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Selling-Jaap-Stam-was-my-biggest-mistake-as-Manchester-United-boss-and-Dwight-Yorke-and-Andrew-Cole-were-best-partnership-in-Europe-says-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Exclusive-interview-article402091.html





Not buying Van DerSar after he left Juve.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2010, 09:54:19 AM

Actually yuh also leave out Obi mikel!

   Nah, I eh leave him out.  He doesn't belong in this conversation, not with the names I call dey.  But he is more talented than paul scholes (he's just not playing as an attacking midfielder) and he's waaaaaaaaaaay ahead of scholes' career curve, so, as much as I didn't need to mention him, I know he's already in allyuh manu fans' heads!  :devil:

Lets bet that Anderson becomes better than Obi mikel.

  I doh want to take yuh munny.....or whatever it is yuh puttin up fuh a wager. 

Yu win i wear an obi jersey/chelski i win you wear a united anderson jersey.

  Listen, anderson need to start an international career before he could be mentioned in the same library as my boy and they play two different roles for their respective clubs.  How can you measure one's progress against the other?


Actually yuh boy has an international career because he plays for Nigeria and there is less competition for spots compared to Brazil. When Anderson comes back we will pick up this discussion.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 04, 2010, 10:38:26 AM
Anderson also has an international career.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2010, 11:10:24 AM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 04, 2010, 07:07:23 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2010, 07:17:46 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?


Yes,they have asked Anderson a few times to play as a defensive midfielder. I don't think they have really given him a run of games in the potistion he was sucessful playing before he joined them. Not sure if it has to do with him breaking his leg and having to change his game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 04, 2010, 11:49:41 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?

Anderson has played more than one game for the Brazil senior team (not including Olympics)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2010, 06:20:54 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?

Anderson has played more than one game for the Brazil senior team (not including Olympics)


Doh study Chow he know this might be as good as it gets for Obi Knobi None
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 05, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?


Yes,they have asked Anderson a few times to play as a defensive midfielder. I don't think they have really given him a run of games in the potistion he was sucessful playing before he joined them. Not sure if it has to do with him breaking his leg and having to change his game.

OK...they have asked him a "few times."  What is his official role/position at manu and how wwell did he perform when they asked?
I don't think Chelsea have "asked" JOM a "few times" though, to play (what most deem to be) outside his natural position. 
  By the way....I knew all along that anderson played more than 1 game for Brazil senior (obviously Olympics doh count) but I was being sarcastic because it is obvious that JOM plays a more important and pivotal role for Nigeria than anderson does for Brazil and I don't care what the difference between the two teams are.  Bottom line is, JOM is going to South Africa.  Is anderson going next month, too? (Oh yeah...Luis Fabiano may have a injury goin' on....maybe Dunga will call him up as a fill-in)   

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2010, 08:13:50 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?


Yes,they have asked Anderson a few times to play as a defensive midfielder. I don't think they have really given him a run of games in the potistion he was sucessful playing before he joined them. Not sure if it has to do with him breaking his leg and having to change his game.

OK...they have asked him a "few times."  What is his official role/position at manu and how wwell did he perform when they asked?
I don't think Chelsea have "asked" JOM a "few times" though, to play (what most deem to be) outside his natural position. 
  By the way....I knew all along that anderson played more than 1 game for Brazil senior (obviously Olympics doh count) but I was being sarcastic because it is obvious that JOM plays a more important and pivotal role for Nigeria than anderson does for Brazil and I don't care what the difference between the two teams are.  Bottom line is, JOM is going to South Africa.  Is anderson going next month, too? (Oh yeah...Luis Fabiano may have a injury goin' on....maybe Dunga will call him up as a fill-in)   

 


Simple question do you think that if Obi was brazilian he would even get a cap  far less caps like Anderson?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 05, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Anderson also has an international career.

You are right but I guess Chow thinks it is not as significant as Obi Knobi

  He has played ONE game for Brazil's senior team in Copa America and his youth and Olympic team representation for Brazil is rather parallel to Mikel's repping of Nigeria.......somewhat.....but he is not likely to make it to South Africa.  I would quicker take Rafinha from Shalke over anderson......and Rafinha is a dam defender! But I ask the question again, what will you use as a determining criteria to judge one player "better" than the other?  They both play completely different roles for their respective club teams. Has manu asked anderson to play a role the polar opposite to his natural position?


Yes,they have asked Anderson a few times to play as a defensive midfielder. I don't think they have really given him a run of games in the potistion he was sucessful playing before he joined them. Not sure if it has to do with him breaking his leg and having to change his game.

OK...they have asked him a "few times."  What is his official role/position at manu and how wwell did he perform when they asked?
I don't think Chelsea have "asked" JOM a "few times" though, to play (what most deem to be) outside his natural position. 
  By the way....I knew all along that anderson played more than 1 game for Brazil senior (obviously Olympics doh count) but I was being sarcastic because it is obvious that JOM plays a more important and pivotal role for Nigeria than anderson does for Brazil and I don't care what the difference between the two teams are.  Bottom line is, JOM is going to South Africa.  Is anderson going next month, too? (Oh yeah...Luis Fabiano may have a injury goin' on....maybe Dunga will call him up as a fill-in)   

 


Simple question do you think that if Obi was brazilian he would even get a cap  far less caps like Anderson?

They play different roles for their respective clubs and countries so I can't, on the surface say yes or no to that.  Once two players play different roles and positions for club and/or country, then they aren't exactly competing against each other for slots as they are against other players, are they? 
But since y'all want to deal in hypotheses, let's do that.  I will answer "yes" to your question just like you already have and don't even realize it. You have already conceded that anderson is not "yet" as good as Mikel because you are trying to bet me that "he will become better than"....JOM. If that is the case, and with all things being hypothetically equal, then anderson, as far as you are concerned, is not yet as good and therefore, JOM would have had more appearances for Brazil than anderson has.   anderson wouldn'ta even make Nigeria squad before him.     
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 05, 2010, 08:55:46 PM
Oh Oh....Poor City  ;D


http://www.youtube.com/v/IMfIIRIEoGs



http://www.youtube.com/v/t2VCyWLh2og



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I´m not sure whether it´s out of pity or humour but sometimes City fans really do make me want to cry. First there was Christopher Atkinson who got a Kaka tattoo when before Kaka came to his senses and Garry Cook f**ked up the deal. Now there´s Kirk Bradley…

Bradley has a tattoo to mark City winning the Champions League. No, you didn´t miss anything. They haven´t actually won the European Cup. But this sad bluenose reckons they will win it in 2011, and is so confident, he´s had it put in place on his arm forever.

“While I was in the pub one night I was saying how I thought we’d win the Champions League next season,” he said. “My friend turned to me and said ‘if you’re so sure why don’t you have it tattooed?’ He was obviously joking, so you can imagine his face when I turned around and said ‘okay then’. I really believe we have the quality and ambition to go and achieve the biggest prize out there and I think we can do it that soon. With Mark Hughes at the helm and the money flowing in, we are going to not only challenge the big four, but the whole of Europe as well.”

Honestly, you just don´t know whether to laugh or cry with these idiots.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 06, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
this is how it feels to be City
this is show it feels to be small...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 06, 2010, 04:07:49 PM

United announce summer tour - ManUtd.Com

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Manchester United will go west to prepare for the 2010/11 season, with new matches announced today for Toronto, Philadelphia, Kansas City and Houston.

The squad, headed by Ryan Giggs and including stars such as Paul Scholes, Edwin van der Sar, Darren Fletcher, Antonio Valencia, John O’Shea, Michael Owen and Dimitar Berbatov, will be bolstered by a number of the promising young players, such as Federico Macheda and the da Silva twins.

First stop is a training camp in Chicago, home of new shirt sponsors Aon. This will be followed by a visit to the Rogers Center in Toronto for a match against Celtic on 16 July, then a return to the Lincoln Financial Field, where United played in 2003 and 2004, against Philadelphia Union on 21 July. Four days later, the Kansas City Wizards provide the opposition at the Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City. The US matches are completed in Houston on 28 July with a game against the MLS All-Stars in the Reliant Stadium.

Two days later, as already announced, the squad will play the Club’s first ever match in Mexico to open Chivas’ new 45,000 seat stadium in Guadalajara.

Sir Alex Ferguson said: “It’s great to be going back to North America. I enjoyed the last two tours there in 2003 and 2004 immensely. The quality of the facilities is outstanding and there is a real enthusiasm in the crowds. It’s especially pleasing to be going in a World Cup year, when the interest in football will be at its height.”


Tour Fixtures, July 2010

16: Glasgow Celtic; Toronto

21: Philadelphia Union; Philadelphia

25: Kansas City Wizards; Kansas

28: MLS All-Stars; Houston
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 06, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
United in Philly July 21st, I think i will pass. Nothing beats the 2003 tour with Juve @ Giants stadium, and Barca at the Linc. Even though Philly was annoying because some of those dumb Eagles fans who were in the stadium just for the opening of the Linc not for the match per say kepts shouting E-A-G-L-E-S! Who United bringing worth seeing at this time anyway? Rooney not coming and anybody who played in the World Cup. Berbasoft?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 06, 2010, 04:54:33 PM
Crossbar challenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTyWlSq1Kkg


Pirlo-crossbar challenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkXybb8fuE
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 06, 2010, 06:46:37 PM
I'm off to Toronto for the Celtic encounter... sorting my visa and flight within 7 days

Just to get a match ticket now  ;D...I will scalp one if I miss out in the sale... I there for sure

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 09, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
Fan Protests outside Old Trafford.

http://www.youtube.com/v/fLh8GDl67Rk&fmt=18



The Stetford End express their support for the team and displeasure towards the Glazers.

http://www.youtube.com/v/wtS7wuVf8Nk&fmt=18



What a roller-coaster year yes - roll on next season :)

http://www.youtube.com/v/GJOBLaUJhBg&fmt=18


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 10, 2010, 03:56:05 PM
I'm off to Toronto for the Celtic encounter... sorting my visa and flight within 7 days

Just to get a match ticket now  ;D...I will scalp one if I miss out in the sale... I there for sure


Tickets on order, trying to get a dressing room pass from someone in the office.  We go see how dat work out, but it should be good either way.  See alyu dey :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 13, 2010, 08:51:22 AM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13052010/58/international-football-berbatov-quits-bulgaria.html

International Football - Berbatov quits Bulgaria

Reuters - Thu, 13 May 14:28:00 2010


Bulgaria captain Dimitar Berbatov has quit the national team hinting that fatigue and family commitments were behind his surprise announcement.

"It was a difficult decision but sometimes we have to take difficult decisions," the 29-year old Manchester United said.

"I needed a long time but there's no way back. It's over," added Berbatov, who became Bulgaria's all-time leading scorer last November when he netted his 48th goal in a friendly against Malta on his 74th international appearance.

"There are many reasons behind my decision but I want to say I took it on my own and no one influenced it.

"I didn't discuss it with (United manager) Alex Ferguson. I did it with my father and my agent."

"I felt tired at times and I also know there are skilful young lads in the national team who look forward to their chance.

"You have to know when it's the right time to stop. Things have changed a lot since I was a 20-year-old. I have a family, a daughter now..."

The decision by the six-times Bulgarian Footballer of the Year is a blow for Bulgaria coach Stanimir Stoilov who has an uphill task in trying to qualify the Balkan country for the European Championship finals in 2012.

Bulgaria have been drawn with England, Switzerland, Wales and Montenegro in Group G with the first matches scheduled for September 3 when they visit Wembley Stadium.

"I've already informed him (Stoilov) and I wished him success as I also think he's capable of achieving something big with the national team," said Berbatov."

He had been named in Bulgaria's squad for friendlies in Belgium on May 19 and World Cup hosts South Africa on May 24.

However, Berbatov has been criticised by his country's fans for not playing at his best for the national team and Bulgarian Football Union vice-president Yordan Lechkov scolded him recently for "not giving enough on the pitch".

The laid-back striker joined United from Tottenham Hotspur in 2008 for a club record fee of £30.75 million but soon came under fire from British media and United supporters after failing to reproduce his scoring form.

But he said on Thursday he was happy at United, who finished runners-up to Chelsea in the Premier League this year, and wanted to remain at the Old Trafford club.

"I'm a Man Utd player, I want to stay there and I'll fight for my place. I wake up happy every morning because I know I'm a United player. I don't show my emotions but that doesn't mean I'm not happy."

Asked about speculation he could leave United, Berbatov said: "I don't know anything about an offer from Milan or from any other club. Germany? There's only one team I could play for there and it's Bayer Leverkusen (his former club)."

Berbatov is the second key Bulgarian player to retire from international football this year after Bursaspor goalkeeper Dimitar Ivankov quit after a friendly against Poland in March.

"It's a sad news for all of us because no doubt Berbatov is one the most successful Bulgarian players," said Bulgaria coach Stoilov.

"I don't support his decision but I respect it."

National team sporting director Nasko Sirakov added: "Let's face the truth: no one can replace Berbatov, but his team mates must try to make his absence less noticeable."
Reuters
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 13, 2010, 02:41:56 PM
You are happy berba but we are not.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 14, 2010, 07:15:15 PM
Bess.


Foster set for Blues deal
- Sky Sports

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Ben Foster is in talks with Birmingham City after they agreed a deal with Manchester United, skysports.com can confirm.

Birmingham are in need of a new number one as loan-star Joe Hart is returning to Manchester City following his highly successful stint at St Andrews.

Blues boss Alex McLeish failed with his efforts to keep Hart for another 12-months and so turned his attentions to the red-half of Manchester, and has now agreed a deal with United for Foster.

It is understood Birmingham have agreed a fee in the region of £5million and that Foster is now in talks with the club.

England international Foster has seen his chances limited at United this term, which has cost him a place at the World Cup finals.

His agent Lee Payne has confirmed to skysports.com that his client is in talks with Birmingham.

"We are close to agreeing a deal," he told skysports.com.

"The two clubs have agreed a fee and given us permission to talk to Birmingham.

"We fully expect the deal to be completed either this weekend or the start of next week."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 14, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
Good-first dead weight out, berbasoft you next?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 15, 2010, 10:59:52 AM
Good-first dead weight out, berbasoft you next?

Could only hope someone da generous. I go take round half d money now yes - bank round 20 mil in 2 transfers and reinvest it in d squad - da go do for me :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 18, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
Manchester United player ratings - ESPN Soccernet

By Richard Jolly


With another term coming to end, and a summer holiday dominated by the World Cup fast approaching, it seems an appropriate time to deliver those all-important report cards for the Premier League elite.

So which players excelled themselves, and which were left fearing the hairdryer treatment on a weekly basis? Soccernet's team of writers deliver their marks out of ten.

Wayne Rooney - 9.5. Apart from getting injured at a rather inconvenient moment, he could do no wrong. Scored 34 goals and, at times, seemed more significant than that haul indicated. Led the line with bullish determination, sometimes without sufficient support, and became the talisman of the side. Nothing symbolised his new-found ruthlessness quite like his return in the air, scoring more headed goals in a month than he had in the rest of his career. It was a brilliant response to the loss of Cristiano Ronaldo.


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Patrice Evra - 8. One error in the Allianz Arena, leading to Ivica Olic's goal, aside, he had an almost flawless campaign. Evra's consistency goes unremarked these days; it is simply taken for granted. It extended, vitally, to his fitness in a season when all other defenders fell by the wayside. It was a sign of the Frenchman's status at Old Trafford that he captained United at times, including in the Carling Cup final.

Darren Fletcher - 8. The most improved player in the Premier League last season merely maintained his standards. But that, in turn, elevated his reputation; last year was no one-off. Influential displays against Arsenal, Manchester City, AC Milan and Liverpool cemented his standing as a big-game player.

Paul Scholes - 8. To think that Sir Alex Ferguson had to talk him out of retirement. Scholes had a superlative second half of the season, delivering crucial goals - two against Manchester City alone - and showing that few can pass the ball with such accuracy or penetration. He still can't tackle, but he still can play.

Antonio Valencia - 7.5. An encouraging first year at Old Trafford. Ignore the obvious Ronaldo comparisons and Valencia showed himself to be a highly accomplished right winger. Sheer speed, accurate delivery and considerable consistency made him a fine signing.

Nani - 7.5. Initially a cause of exasperation and then one of encouragement. He began badly, vanished, seemingly for good, mid-season and returned to finish the year terrifically well. Vital end-of-season goals, against Tottenham and Sunderland, and some hugely impressive displays in crucial games against Arsenal and Bayern Munich suggested a player finally turning potential into potent performances.

Ryan Giggs - 7. He still has the turn of pace and influence of a younger man. Started the season well, with a trio of outstanding displays against Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester City, and, after a mid-season dip in form, ended it excellently; witness the nerveless penalties against Spurs. Like Paul Scholes, certainly merits his new one-year deal.

Edwin van der Sar - 7. His appearances were limited by injury and his wife's illness, but Van der Sar's 21 games brought 12 clean sheets, some fine saves and the reminder that he is a marked improvement on Tomasz Kuszczak and Ben Foster. Turns 40 this year, but there were few signs of decline.


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Nemanja Vidic - 6.5. The United Players' Player of the Year in 2009 couldn't retain his title. Vidic was uncharacteristically uncertain in autumn, picking up his now habitual red card against Fernando Torres, and was among the umpteen absentees in December. But the final ten weeks of the campaign brought a return to his redoubtable best.

Jonny Evans - 6. Reasonable rather than remarkable. He didn't have the impact of the previous campaign but being Rio Ferdinand's deputy seems a guarantee of fairly regular first-team football. A new contract means he should be United's future, but Evans doesn't always impose himself now and tends to look more comfortable with Nemanja Vidic alongside him.

Darron Gibson - 6. Featured more often, but not quite a breakthrough year. Five goals from 12 starts is testament to Gibson's shooting power, but even with Owen Hargreaves missing for all bar 36 seconds of the season and Anderson often unavailable, he didn't force himself into the starting XI too often. And when he did, he was often back on the bench soon.

Gary Neville - 6. Fared better than many feared against Ronaldinho and Craig Bellamy but his supposed renaissance was rather exaggerated, as Florent Malouda showed, and some of Sir Alex Ferguson's more flowing tributes rather unnecessary. But with John O'Shea and Wes Brown often injured, he figured more than might have been predicted and probably deserved a new contract. Just.

Wes Brown - 5.5. A frustrating, stop-start season which, like many in his career, was disrupted by injuries. Called "the best natural defender in the country" by Sir Alex Ferguson, he is nonetheless the fourth-choice centre back and, seemingly, in a four-horse race for the right back spot.

John O'Shea - 5.5. Captained United in their opening league game against Birmingham but, in another unusual development, sat out most of the season. The thigh injury incurred on international duty in November was the most serious of his United career. A first choice last season, it may have reduced him to the rank of odd-job man again.

Park Ji-sung - 5.5. The scorer of United's final goal of the season, the South Korean's only other strikes came in the marquee games against Arsenal, AC Milan and Liverpool. It marked a golden two-month spell in an otherwise undistinguished campaign for a player who reiterated his usefulness on the big stage but, by being ineffectual at the start and end of the year, was still overtaken by Nani and Antonio Valencia.

Dimitar Berbatov - 5. The great enigma managed some delightful touches and a goal every other league start, but failed to score in Europe or against a side in the top seven. Consigned to the bench against most of the more demanding opponents and selected from the start against the lesser sides, he remains more of a problem than a solution.

Rafael da Silva - 5. A year that will probably be remembered for his red card against Bayern Munich. Like the dismissal, that is a shame for Rafael, whose sense of adventure means he can offer much, but a greater sense of judgment is required.

Rio Ferdinand - 5. Chronic back and calf problems limited him to just 12 league starts but, in an awful autumn, his form was as much of a concern as his fitness. Got the England captaincy by default, but the last couple of months have shown glimpses why he and Nemanja Vidic came to be regarded as the finest defensive partnership in the Premier League.


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Michael Owen - 5. A season of three highs - against Manchester City, Wolfsburg and Aston Villa - in an otherwise demoralising campaign, where excellent finishes were sandwiched by mediocrity and anonymity. The fact he started so few league games - just five - told a tale in itself. Only really looks a back-up now.

Anderson 4.5. It can be easy to forget Anderson ended last season as an integral part of the midfield. This year has contained a cruciate knee ligament injury, a reported falling-out with Sir Alex Ferguson and too few influential displays. A belated first United goal, at Tottenham, may be the only highlight.

Michael Carrick - 4.5. Started slowly, as has become his tradition, but ended terribly, which has not. Obviously lost Sir Alex Ferguson's trust as well as his place after erring in both legs of the Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich. Never seemed more important than when he was bringing a stately elegance to his time as an emergency centre back, but seems to have regressed as a midfielder.

Ben Foster - 3. An abject year. He could have been first choice for Manchester United and England; instead, Foster ranks well behind Edwin van der Sar and Tomasz Kuszczak at Old Trafford now after he made a series of mistakes in his run in the team. Will leave this summer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 18, 2010, 10:13:58 PM
agree with the ratings..except Nev instead of 6 would have gotten 7 from me because he is 35 and did extremely well this season..Almost got an England World Cup call up at 35...locked off some big players alot younger and fitter than him...didnt get caught out or got sent off like the kid(Rafael)... boosted our Prem challenge and had a very commendable campaign

And Berba's rating to me was low but thats just how it is with Berba...some people just dont like his style...I for 1 love his individual style of play but his style of play with United's style of play doesnt work...I am hoping he can have a big season next year but Fergie must play him week in week out with Rooney in a 4-4-2 to allow Berba's magic to gel with United's style of play



Btw..Fergie has hinted he may only buy 1 player... shocking really..I hope he's bluffing everyone..we need another Rooney type striker(mobile,passionate,goalscorer)

Benzema and Villa fit the bill but Villa's off to Barca so thats over...I'd take Benzema.... Berba is not an impact player so If Fergie decides to keep him on the bench alot It wouldnt make any sense to me... the only way he can change a game is if he comes on into a 4-4-2 alongside a Rooney or a wazza style player... he cant come on in a 4-5-1 and go up top and expect results...

We need 2 players..2 world class players...we lost 2 in Ronaldo and Tevez and have yet to replace them... We need Modric or David Silva and a world class Striker

we dont buy and Rooney gets injured at any point of 10/11 we are dead and buried..congrats Chelsea... dont blow it Gaffer..bring us some quality
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 18, 2010, 11:11:25 PM
Sir Alex Ferguson may limit Manchester United signings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8691007.stm

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has said he may not add any more players to his squad this summer.

Ferguson has already signed Mexico's Javier Hernandez from Guadalajara and defender Chris Smalling from Fulham.

But a host of more signings were expected, particularly after chief executive David Gill indicated funds are available to his manager.

"There may be one signing but it's not easy in the present climate. The market is very difficult," said Ferguson.

Speaking alongside Gill at a press conference in New York to promote United's four-game North American tour this summer, Ferguson added: "The structure of our squad is good in terms of ages, the balance, the numbers and there's a lot of good young players.

"Sometimes you have to trust in the development of the last few years and I'm going to stick with that, or most of it."

Gill added: "The Premier League is bringing in squad limits next year of 25 but there will be unlimited under-21s and other rules and we'll be taking all that into consideration."

Ferguson revealed he would not be replacing goalkeeper Ben Foster, instead promoting England Under-21 international Ben Amos to the first-team squad alongside Edwin Van der Sar and Tomasz Kuszczak.

 Foster is close to completing a £6m move to Birmingham, having missed out on England's squad for the World Cup in South Africa.

"When we decided to let Ben (Foster) go, we were in the process of letting a good young goalkeeper, Ben Amos, go out on loan," Ferguson said.

"He's in the England Under-21 team but we can only accommodate three goalkeepers. So when the situation with Ben's future at Manchester United came into it and we agreed to let him go, we stopped Ben Amos from going on loan.

"He will now be our third goalkeeper, he's very talented and has a good future ahead of him."

Supporters' groups opposed to the Glazer family's ownership of Manchester United have argued that Ferguson's transfer dealings are being limited by the level of debt carried by the club.

But Gill said: "We're very confident the business model we have in place will ensure the club can continue to compete at the top of football for many years to come."

"Our season ticket sales, renewals, for this upcoming season are on track with previous years. Our executive ticket renewals are on track," he said.

"The owners have been true to their word since they took over the club in 2005. They've brought commercial expertise and commercial benefit to us in a numbers of areas, and we've seen our revenues grow significantly."

The club's summer tour will begin with a training camp in Chicago followed by friendlies against Celtic in Toronto on 16 July, the Philadelphia Union in Philadelphia on 21 July, the Kansas City Wizards in Kansas four days later, and the MLS All-Stars in Houston on 28 July.

Ferguson will give his World Cup players leave of absence from the tour, which will move on to Mexico and a game against Guadalajara, which was agreed as part of the deal to sign 21-year-old forward Hernandez.



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 19, 2010, 01:51:35 AM
Fergie better not play the F@8king arse and talk that bullshit in the transfer window. I would like to see some new blood in the team for next season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 19, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
agree with the ratings..except Nev instead of 6 would have gotten 7 from me because he is 35 and did extremely well this season..Almost got an England World Cup call up at 35...locked off some big players alot younger and fitter than him...didnt get caught out or got sent off like the kid(Rafael)... boosted our Prem challenge and had a very commendable campaign

And Berba's rating to me was low but thats just how it is with Berba...some people just dont like his style...I for 1 love his individual style of play but his style of play with United's style of play doesnt work...I am hoping he can have a big season next year but Fergie must play him week in week out with Rooney in a 4-4-2 to allow Berba's magic to gel with United's style of play



Btw..Fergie has hinted he may only buy 1 player... shocking really..I hope he's bluffing everyone..we need another Rooney type striker(mobile,passionate,goalscorer)

Benzema and Villa fit the bill but Villa's off to Barca so thats over...I'd take Benzema.... Berba is not an impact player so If Fergie decides to keep him on the bench alot It wouldnt make any sense to me... the only way he can change a game is if he comes on into a 4-4-2 alongside a Rooney or a wazza style player... he cant come on in a 4-5-1 and go up top and expect results...

We need 2 players..2 world class players...we lost 2 in Ronaldo and Tevez and have yet to replace them... We need Modric or David Silva and a world class Striker

we dont buy and Rooney gets injured at any point of 10/11 we are dead and buried..congrats Chelsea... dont blow it Gaffer..bring us some quality

Berba to me hadda go yes - he hasn't proved himself consistently in any aspect (playing alone, alongside anyone, starting, off the bench, being clinical on the ground and in the air, impacting the game against the better teams, closing down defenders, energy & movement, beating players). If anything he might jus get lucky by no one wanting to him enough and there not being anything reasonable for Utd to buy. But he actually seemed to digress from his first year (which was already disappointing) and his confidence hit new lows in the last months of the seasons. Considering I always thought he was overrated and never wanted Utd to sign him (for a near record  breaking fee no less) - just makes me even moreso want him to be replaced.

Neville had an ok season in the time that he got. He was solid enough in the games against the lesser teams. But he got found out against Chelsea and Bayern. Malouda and Ribery gave him a bit of a run around - and his judgement (much like Rafael) had to be questioned after that inexplicable handball at the Allianz.

To me the 2 main needs for this team are striker and central midfielder. Our over reliance on Rooney and resorting to major minutes for Scholes and Giggs said it all really. As of now we have Hernandez, Smalling, Obertan, Tosic, Diouf, Gibson and Macheda as possible contributors for next season (with some possibility that Ferguson may promote some others of the reserve/youth squad). Personally, from last season's signings - I'd like to see Obertan & Diouf get sufficient time and hopefully Tosic is brought back as well. I'm not sold on Gibson and Macheda has stagnated a bit since his breakout a couple seasons ago. He has the potential, but he's not exceptionally quick and seems to rely too much on good service to score goals (he can do to put on a bit more size as well). I saw him play live, and I could see the potential and he's still a young lad so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I assume perhaps Fergie is contemplating with going with some combination of Rooney, Hernandez, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda & Diouf in the starting 18. It's not the worst pool to choose from - but compared to the elite teams in Europe - it's pretty unproven and lightweight.

If we only signed 2 quality players in the CM and ST positions this off-season I would be satisfied enough.

Players along the lines of Suarez at Striker and Milner in CM (and perhaps Lloris next summer depending on what happens with Kuszczak) - plus trimming the likes of Berbatov & Carrick from the squad whilst blooding some younger players and I think we could be ok to compete on all fronts - if not necessarily be at the level of Barca, Real Madrid or Inter.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 20, 2010, 11:36:51 AM
got my tickets for United Celtic in Toronto this morning...half line..awesome
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 20, 2010, 01:06:49 PM
got my tickets for United Celtic in Toronto this morning...half line..awesome

We've got ticks to the left of the Manchester Goal, go see yu dey :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 21, 2010, 02:08:05 AM
got my tickets for United Celtic in Toronto this morning...half line..awesome

We've got ticks to the left of the Manchester Goal, go see yu dey :devil:

Is too bad they had to have it in a World Cup year yes, go be missing all or most of those guys.

I go say a lineup (barring new, non WC signings) along the lines of:


                           VDS/Kuz

Rafael/Neville    Evans    Smalling    O'Shea/Fabio

Valencia      Scholes/Giggs   Gibson/Hargreaves     Obertan

                Berbatov/Diouf     Macheda   



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2010, 08:09:11 AM
Refuse to give the Glazers my money!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 21, 2010, 08:27:25 AM
Refuse to give the Glazers my money!

I was thinking the same thing but I've followed ManU since I was a kid with my dad and this might be the only time I get to see them live. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
Refuse to give the Glazers my money!

I was thinking the same thing but I've followed ManU since I was a kid with my dad and this might be the only time I get to see them live. :devil:

Thank God i was fortunate to see them when they first came in 03 pre Glazers. I will not spend another cent, I even stop buying the magazines. I don't like the direction the team is going in at all and it will get worse before it gets better when Ferguson leave. To much success on the field not to be able to afford better players.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 21, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
got my tickets for United Celtic in Toronto this morning...half line..awesome

We've got ticks to the left of the Manchester Goal, go see yu dey :devil:

Is too bad they had to have it in a World Cup year yes, go be missing all or most of those guys.

I go say a lineup (barring new, non WC signings) along the lines of:


                           VDS/Kuz

Rafael/Neville    Evans    Smalling    O'Shea/Fabio

Valencia      Scholes/Giggs   Gibson/Hargreaves     Obertan

                Berbatov/Diouf     Macheda   





yea that's the lame thing..luckily I've seen them in Old Trafford before so I'm not too bothered...Only reason I'm going cuz my Grandmother lives in Toronto so it's easier money wise for me to make the trip

I think Hernandez will be on the tour... I read that somewhere...If we buy any non WC players they will be there too..Maybe Benzema and Modric  :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 21, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Refuse to give the Glazers my money!

I was thinking the same thing but I've followed ManU since I was a kid with my dad and this might be the only time I get to see them live. :devil:

Thank God i was fortunate to see them when they first came in 03 pre Glazers. I will not spend another cent, I even stop buying the magazines. I don't like the direction the team is going in at all and it will get worse before it gets better when Ferguson leave. To much success on the field not to be able to afford better players.

Well, cah do nuttin now about it.  ManU4 Everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 21, 2010, 03:31:29 PM
got my tickets for United Celtic in Toronto this morning...half line..awesome

We've got ticks to the left of the Manchester Goal, go see yu dey :devil:

Is too bad they had to have it in a World Cup year yes, go be missing all or most of those guys.

I go say a lineup (barring new, non WC signings) along the lines of:


                           VDS/Kuz

Rafael/Neville    Evans    Smalling    O'Shea/Fabio

Valencia      Scholes/Giggs   Gibson/Hargreaves     Obertan

                Berbatov/Diouf     Macheda   





yea that's the lame thing..luckily I've seen them in Old Trafford before so I'm not too bothered...Only reason I'm going cuz my Grandmother lives in Toronto so it's easier money wise for me to make the trip

I think Hernandez will be on the tour... I read that somewhere...If we buy any non WC players they will be there too..Maybe Benzema and Modric  :D

Yeah he may dependin on how far Mexico reaches - he's been playin a lot of football though between Chivas and the warm-up matches - if anyting he might come in later in the tour yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 24, 2010, 03:28:19 PM
Park Ji Sung scoring the opening goal in an international friendly vs. Japan (South Korea won 2-0).

http://www.youtube.com/v/W5hpcSLIBqc&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 25, 2010, 11:45:42 AM
Park Ji Sung scoring the opening goal in an international friendly vs. Japan (South Korea won 2-0).

http://www.youtube.com/v/W5hpcSLIBqc&fmt=18

Nice goal- ball took a wicked hop right before the goalkeeper...

Almost didn't recognize him with the haircut...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on June 01, 2010, 03:40:17 PM
Nani Goal vs. Cameroon.

http://www.youtube.com/v/4zo_AYXO5-A&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on June 01, 2010, 04:55:31 PM
Nani Goal vs. Cameroon.

http://www.youtube.com/v/4zo_AYXO5-A&fmt=18

Delightful little chip. Boss Goal!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on June 14, 2010, 08:19:49 PM
What's the True Story Behind Nani's World Cup KO? - by the Republik of Mancunia Blog


(http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Nani-and-Queiroz.jpg)


On June 6th, Nani picked up a shoulder injury in training which wasn’t believed to be serious. “I feel better already,” the player said before setting off for South Africa. His only concern was whether he would be ready to play in the friendly against Mozambique.

However, two days later, it was confirmed that the injury was in fact so bad that he was no longer able to compete in the World Cup. Bear in mind this was a whole week before Portugal’s opening game, two weeks before Portugal’s second game and 17 days before their final group stage match. It was therefore assumed in the press that the injury had to be really serious, otherwise the manager would take a gamble on his returning fitness. Nani had a great second half to the season for United so this World Cup had come just at the right time for him.

Nani was replaced by Benfica’s Ruben Amorim, a 25-year-old central midfielder who started just 10 of his 24 league appearances last season as he struggles to hold down a first team place, who has never represented his country. Considering Portugal were so severely lacking in options, it seemed to point to the fact Nani must have really hurt himself and be out for the long term for him to be removed from the squad.

However, upon returning from South Africa, our winger claimed: “I will be fine in a week.” If that really is the case, Nani would have only missed Portugal’s opening game against the Ivory Coast and would have been available for the remaining two group stage games, as well as any possible further matches in the competition.

Unsurprisingly, tongues started wagging, with the media and fans trying to explain why on earth one of Portugal’s best players had been sent home when apparently not very injured at all. Nani had spoken of his “bitterness” and “rage” at having to leave South Africa, which only added to the speculation. Some rumours claimed he had failed a random drugs test whilst others claimed he had fallen out with Carlos Queiroz, although both whispers have been denied today.

“The rumours going around are without foundation,” said Luis Horta, the head of anti-doping authority in Portugal.

The vice-president of the Portuguese federation was equally as baffled as to where the talk had originated from.

“There is no attempting to hide anything, there was only the hope that he could have recovered,” said Amandio de Carvalho.

Carlos Queiroz has today talked about the fuss surrounding Nani, claiming that quite frankly, Portugal have more important things to worry about.

“Tomorrow, we are going to be playing the Ivory Coast in our first game in the World Cup,” said Queiroz. “If Nani is ready in four days, that’s wonderful, but the most important thing is for us to focus on our goal tomorrow. So, with all due respect to Nani, that is what we are focusing on.”


So, what’s gone on here? My interpretation would be something like this: Nani is massively pissed off at being replaced by a nobody in the World Cup team, particularly given how hard he has worked to get there and how confident he is in his own ability to shine. He will have believed he could recover faster than the doctors were telling him would, so upon returning from his 16 hour journey, thoroughly pissed off, claimed he would be available in a week. This of course lead to sensationalised rumours because people were trying to make sense of a situation that didn’t make much sense at all.

It’s a desperately disappointing situation for him and we of course do wish him a speedy recovery. Although, it is good to note that he’s got his club head on him now.

“I want to recover well and start the season with my club, have a good pre-season and be in good form for the start of the season in England,” Nani said today. Good lad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on June 15, 2010, 03:01:40 PM
Tosic sold to CSKA Moskow.

BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8742422.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 05, 2010, 11:12:49 PM
Hernandez in loan link
Striker's father not ruling out loan switch

Javier Hernandez's father has admitted he cannot rule out the possibility of the Manchester United striker going out on loan this season, with Valencia understood to be interested.

The Red Devils agreed a deal to sign the Mexico international back in April, which looks an increasingly astute piece of business after he shone at the World Cup.

Hernandez has been granted a work permit and is set to link up with his new team-mates at Old Trafford later this month, but speculation has now surfaced that he could be sent out on loan.

It is not clear how regularly Hernandez would play for United this term considering the other attacking resources at Sir Alex Ferguson's disposal, especially as he has never played in Europe before and is still not the finished article at the age of 22.

Valencia are known to be on the lookout for new forwards after being forced to sell some of their prized assets, including David Villa, David Silva and Nikola Zigic.

Reports suggest they are keen to sort out a loan deal for Hernandez and his father, also named Javier, does not believe it is an idea that can be dismissed lightly.

"This could be a positive solution for the adaptation of Javier into European football," the youngster's father told Televisa.

"Contacts exist but Manchester have still not decided anything about the subject.

"Javier's first season in England will not be easy. Perhaps the loan option is not madness."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_6245657,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 07, 2010, 11:33:17 PM
Moratti - United want Sneijder
But Dutch star ready to commit to Inter until 2015

Inter Milan president Massimo Moratti has confirmed that Manchester United are interested in midfielder Wesley Sneijder.

The 26-year-old Holland international has been linked with a move to the Premier League side following an impressive World Cup.

Sneijder, whose Inter contract expires in 2013, has fired the Dutch to the final in South Africa and will be hoping the Oranje can go all the way for the first time in their history.

He also had a great domestic campaign with the Nerazzurri last term, as under the stewardship of Jose Mourinho Inter won a remarkable treble, which included the UEFA Champions League title.

Former Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is now in charge at the San Siro following Mourinho's departure to Real Madrid, and the Spaniard will not want to lose one of his prize assets.

But Moratti has confirmed the Red Devils are hot on his trail, even if Inter do not want to sell.

"The interest from Manchester United in Sneijder is real, but I didn't look into it in an attempt not to fall into temptation," Moratti told Sky Sport Italia.

"I'm following him at the World Cup and I think I'll do the same also at Inter for the next years."

However, Sneijder, formerly of Ajax and Real Madrid, is ready to commit his future to the club until 2015, according to his agent Soren Lerby.

Lerby told De Telegraaf: "Wesley could stay at Inter until 2015. After the World Cup, we will go to Milan, we will sit around a table with the officials."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6250229,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on July 20, 2010, 05:17:32 PM

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 05, 2010, 06:15:16 PM
United heavily linked with Ozil.... according to widespread reports a deal could be done by Monday....would be a great addition


Squad hitting form btw...slammed an Irish XI 7-1 last night

Chicharito finding the net again  ;D ... he was very impressive....almost everyone was class....Valencia was on fire and a great finish by Owen.....

We are in much better shape this season and expect us to retain our title....Ozil would drastically help our chances as he would add variety....we can play a 4-2-3-1 which is Fergie's favoured formation in bigger games...would be a great attacking mid behind Rooney

Chicharito's gonna be a star ..... buying the new kit next week...Chicharito 14  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2010, 07:51:08 PM
dude it was a shitty irish XI.

jabloteh was beating dat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 05, 2010, 07:55:29 PM
dude it was a shitty irish XI.

jabloteh was beating dat.

ok bossman....study Chelsea lost 4 out of 4 though

bring on Sunday
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 05, 2010, 08:00:35 PM
dude it was a shitty irish XI.

jabloteh was beating dat.

LOL @ JAB
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 05, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
United heavily linked with Ozil.... according to widespread reports a deal could be done by Monday....would be a great addition


Squad hitting form btw...slammed an Irish XI 7-1 last night

Chicharito finding the net again  ;D ... he was very impressive....almost everyone was class....Valencia was on fire and a great finish by Owen.....

We are in much better shape this season and expect us to retain try regain our Chelsea title....Ozil would drastically help our chances as he would add variety....we can play a 4-2-3-1 which is Fergie's favoured formation in bigger games...would be a great attacking mid behind Rooney

Chicharito's gonna be a star ..... buying the new kit next week...Chicharito 14  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 11, 2010, 12:46:20 PM
Very curious link on the official Man Utd website:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383

Wud be funny if dey get brace  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 11, 2010, 01:29:31 PM
Very curious link on the official Man Utd website:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383

Wud be funny if dey get brace  ;D

holy shit,  :o hmmmmm, we shall see
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 11, 2010, 02:02:30 PM
Very curious link on the official Man Utd website:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383

Wud be funny if dey get brace  ;D

The United Web manager released a statement today saying their is a glitch in the system when a name is listed in the transfer gossip section a player ID is formed....It's happened in the past...caught me the first time big time lol

and if he brace us he is a c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on August 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Unconfirmed so far...

Manchester United sign £7.4m Portuguese striker Bebe

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/11/manchester-united-sign-striker-bebe

Exclusive
Manchester United sign £7.4m Portuguese striker Bebe

• Portuguese player becomes eight striker on United's books
• 20-year-old recommended to club by Portugal's Queiroz


Sir Alex Ferguson Alex Ferguson has added an eighth senior striker to his books by signing the Portuguese Bebe. Photograph: Kamil Krzaczynski/EPA

Manchester United have spent £7.4m to sign Bebe, a relatively unknown 20-year-old from the Portuguese club Vitória de Guimarães, the Guardian can reveal. The deal was finalised today, with the player becoming the eighth senior striker on the club's books.

United have paid the buyout clause to release Bebe – who was raised in an orphanage after spending part of his childhood on the streets and has represented Portugal in the homeless World Cup – from his five-year contract at Guimarães only five weeks after he joined the club from Estrala da Amadora in the Portuguese third division.

He has been recommended to Sir Alex Ferguson by his former assistant, Carlos Queiroz, the Portugal national coach, and a deal has been rushed through for Bebe to become the third signing of the summer at Old Trafford. It takes the club's spending to around £25m following the arrival of Chris Smalling from Fulham and Javier Hernández from Chivas de Guadalajara, with Ferguson retaining a strong interest in Mesut Ozil, the Germany international.

The United manager was at Craven Cottage to see Ozil play in a pre-season friendly for Werder Bremen on Saturday and, although he tried to pass it off as watching a Premier League opponents, the Guardian has established he stayed back at the end of the match to talk to officials of the Bundesliga club in the boardroom. There remain a number of obstacles to clear, not least the fact that Chelsea are interested, along with Real Madrid and, potentially, Barcelona.

The signing of Bebe has been far more straightforward, with Ferguson understood to have met the player for the first time on Tuesday when he flew to Portugal, principally to be a witness for Queiroz in a disciplinary case with the Portuguese football federation.

Bebe is described as a fast, technically gifted striker, right-footed and strong in the air, measuring 6ft 2ins. He has shown his potential with several goals in pre-season but his signing still represents a major surprise given Ferguson's recent insistence that he did not want to add to his squad and the player's low profile in Portuguese football.

Queiroz has convinced Ferguson that he may have unearthed a future gem and Bebe will provide competition for Wayne Rooney, Hernández, Dimitar Berbatov, Michael Owen and Federico Macheda, with Mame Biram Diouf having joined Blackburn Rovers on a season-long loan and Daniel Welbeck on his way to Sunderland.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 11, 2010, 03:22:15 PM
plenty fire power, but how d defense looking?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 11, 2010, 03:53:28 PM
United to bring in Bebe
Red Devils swoop for Portuguese striker
Last updated: 11th August 2010   

Manchester United have struck an agreement which will see Portuguese striker Bebe move to Old Trafford.

The 20-year-old will join United subject to passing a medical later in the week.

The Red Devils have already agreed a deal with Bebe's current employers Vitoria Guimaraes.

Personal terms have also been ironed out, paving the way for the move to be completed.

The youngster will move to England for an undisclosed fee, bolstering United's attacking unit in the process.

Potential
Reports suggest the fee involved could be somewhere in the region of £7.4million.

Sir Alex Ferguson has swooped for the burly frontman just five weeks after he signed for Guimaraes, agreeing to match his buy-out clause.

Bebe had been recommended to the United boss by the club's former assistant manager Carlos Queiroz, who is now in charge of the Portugal national side.

He has shown his potential during pre-season with a number of well-taken goals and will bring power and pace to the Red Devils' frontline.

His arrival does come as something of a surprise, though, as United already have eight senior strikers on their books and Ferguson has often stated that he was not looking to add to his squad.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_6307047,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 12, 2010, 12:00:18 AM
that one is a massive gamble....I hope it works out or else we'll look very stupid....Apparently he's more an attacking midfielder than a striker..I'd prefer that

Welcome Bebe....die for the shirt

Stuff of dreams this one...I'm already seeing the movie set to release 12-15 years down the line...What an incredible story for this kid...homeless to the promised land

Do yuh ting son
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on August 12, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
plenty fire power, but how d defense looking?
More importantly, how the midfield looking? Scholes is still the best midfielder by a mile...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: De Lapahtron on August 12, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
Ok so check this link out:


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 12, 2010, 11:23:29 AM
Ok so check this link out:


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383


a day late

Very curious link on the official Man Utd website:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383

Wud be funny if dey get brace  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 16, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
game today fellas  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 16, 2010, 10:47:12 AM
game today fellas  ;D

I cannot wait.....pumped!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on August 16, 2010, 12:48:38 PM
game today fellas  ;D

I cannot wait.....pumped!

Nuff ponging 4 dem.  Man U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on August 16, 2010, 12:51:20 PM
man u vs. newcastle game streaming on espn3.com in the US for whoever want to take a chance and check it at work
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 16, 2010, 01:36:16 PM
Berba score 1-nil  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 16, 2010, 02:48:04 PM
Giggs  :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 16, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
Giggs  :notworthy:

he's not bout 45 years old  ???

give youth a chance fergie, give youth a chance

 8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 16, 2010, 05:26:29 PM
it only had 2 vets on the field , scholes and giggs  :devil: , doh try dat  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 17, 2010, 11:34:52 AM
Very curious link on the official Man Utd website:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383

Wud be funny if dey get brace  ;D

The United Web manager released a statement today saying their is a glitch in the system when a name is listed in the transfer gossip section a player ID is formed....It's happened in the past...caught me the first time big time lol

and if he brace us he is a c**t

oh well
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 17, 2010, 01:25:45 PM
How come when Man United and Real Madrid going for the same player, the majority of the time Real Madrid get the player. What's up with that?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 17, 2010, 01:27:42 PM
How come when Man United and Real Madrid going for the same player, the majority of the time Real Madrid get the player. What's up with that?

Man United is a feeder club for bigger and better teams.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on August 17, 2010, 08:04:22 PM
Haha when has their ever been any proof that Utd were competing with Real for Ozil?

The press says what they say and create a story - but the fact is Bremen themselves have said they only received 1 bid before the sale - which was also from Real. Utd were 'linked' with Ozil - but so were Chelsea and Barca - does that mean Real beat them as well to the player?

Also, when last have Real beaten Utd to a player they truly wanted?

What big players besides Ronaldo have Utd sold that they didn't want to (whom they got 80 million for)?

Indeed Utd rarely goes for the hyped players anymore - young talent like Ozil does fit their mold though - but he's not the wizard that people who do not follow Bremen make him out to be. Whether he will reach his supposed potential and show the form that he does for Germany, or become another talent lost to Madrid's bench - remains to be seen.



 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 17, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
Welcome Bebe!  http://gu.com/p/2j4yb
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 18, 2010, 02:04:36 AM
Haha when has their ever been any proof that Utd were competing with Real for Ozil?

The press says what they say and create a story - but the fact is Bremen themselves have said they only received 1 bid before the sale - which was also from Real. Utd were 'linked' with Ozil - but so were Chelsea and Barca - does that mean Real beat them as well to the player?

Also, when last have Real beaten Utd to a player they truly wanted?

What big players besides Ronaldo have Utd sold that they didn't want to (whom they got 80 million for)?

Indeed Utd rarely goes for the hyped players anymore - young talent like Ozil does fit their mold though - but he's not the wizard that people who do not follow Bremen make him out to be. Whether he will reach his supposed potential and show the form that he does for Germany, or become another talent lost to Madrid's bench - remains to be seen.



 

thanks for saving me the typing for those pricks

I think Ozil's wages and valuation didnt sit well with United.... Fergie said he didnt see any value in the market and hinted next season he will buy a mature player (to replace Scholes) but says we have enough experience in the squad for this season and the young players are talented and hungry which I agree with

We as fans just wanted a decent signing.....Chicharito may be it...I love that kid

I taking Modric next season...only man that can replace Scholes for me... will be 25 next season can play CM and right behind a striker..and he's proved it in the prem.

And I scouting wingers too...even though I safe with Nani and Valencia
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 18, 2010, 02:05:51 AM
Beckham = fail , Heinze = fail , Ruud = fail , Ronaldo = to be continued

Ruud= Legend

He doesn't know how to fail
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 18, 2010, 06:44:17 AM
Beckham = fail , Heinze = fail , Ruud = fail , Ronaldo = to be continued

Ruud = Fail ??????   46 goals in 68 games and two League titles with Real that is failure! Interesting
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 18, 2010, 08:06:20 AM
ah talkin about d men who went Real, ruud never catch he self

bullsh*t.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 18, 2010, 08:39:54 AM
alyuh going crazy ah what? i never say that  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 18, 2010, 09:09:41 AM
Beckham = fail , Heinze = fail , Ruud = fail , Ronaldo = to be continued

Ruud = Fail ??????   46 goals in 68 games and two League titles with Real that is failure! Interesting


Beckham also had a starring role in the title win in his last season there.

Anyway Man U does not get into bidding wars for a big player.
Why don't they?  Ferguson probably tryin to uphold the club's reputation.
It will look real bad for them to publicly fail to land players like that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 18, 2010, 09:55:45 AM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 18, 2010, 10:30:27 AM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 18, 2010, 10:31:33 AM
stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 18, 2010, 10:33:06 AM
stueps

d troot does unsettle ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 18, 2010, 04:08:10 PM
even if we wanted a player and failed to get them, that does not mean we are gonna fail to win trophies... Man.United players has consistently proven why they are the best team in England. Ok so Chelski won last season by a POINT with all their money and big name players. whoopie doo. cyber stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on August 18, 2010, 09:13:30 PM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 18, 2010, 10:25:48 PM
Doh forget the players also lookin at livin in London, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan vs Manchester.
This is not as important as the club that they thinkin of playing for, but it matters for some more than others.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 19, 2010, 01:13:46 AM
Doh forget the players also lookin at livin in London, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan vs Manchester.
This is not as important as the club that they thinkin of playing for, but it matters for some more than others.
I guess Tevez chose club over location.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 19, 2010, 10:19:28 AM
Doh forget the players also lookin at livin in London, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan vs Manchester.
This is not as important as the club that they thinkin of playing for, but it matters for some more than others.
I guess Tevez chose club over location.

tevez left a tiny club to go big one with more fans  to win trophies and play in europe daiz all.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 19, 2010, 10:25:48 AM
Doh forget the players also lookin at livin in London, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan vs Manchester.
This is not as important as the club that they thinkin of playing for, but it matters for some more than others.
I guess Tevez chose club over location.

tevez left a tiny club to go big one with more fans  to win trophies and play in europe daiz all.

Tevez left because he had enough of Ferguson and he prickness...

He's not the first and wont be the last.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 19, 2010, 11:44:12 AM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.

That money argument pissing me off now. This is a business and it is not Chelsea fault that Abramovich saw a better investment in Chelsea than he did Man Utd or any other EPL team. Why did the Glasers choose Man Utd to off load there debts. This is business, why would you not spend your money to make your product/business better if you can. In every business the idea is to be better than your competition, whether it's spending money, improving facilities or bringing top notch employees, the underlying factor is to be more successful than the next competitor. When Man Utd paid 30 mill for Ferdinand who has done absolutely nothing or the same for Berbatov who finally scored vs New Castle, or Anderson who is relegated to the bench. Using that Chelsea has more money or spend more money is such a cop out, but you will expect that from you lot. Everyone bemoans Wenger for not spending and in the same breath mouth off on Chelsea and Man City for spending.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 19, 2010, 01:06:43 PM
Everyone bemoans Wenger for not spending and in the same breath mouth off on Chelsea and Man City for spending.

 :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 19, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.

Actually United's not getting Robben paved the way for them to get Ronaldo. I would take Ronaldo over Robben any day! And if memory serves my right Chelski over paid for Robben after Kenyon hijacked the deal when he went to Chelski.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on August 19, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.

That money argument pissing me off now. This is a business and it is not Chelsea fault that Abramovich saw a better investment in Chelsea than he did Man Utd or any other EPL team. Why did the Glasers choose Man Utd to off load there debts. This is business, why would you not spend your money to make your product/business better if you can. In every business the idea is to be better than your competition, whether it's spending money, improving facilities or bringing top notch employees, the underlying factor is to be more successful than the next competitor. When Man Utd paid 30 mill for Ferdinand who has done absolutely nothing or the same for Berbatov who finally scored vs New Castle, or Anderson who is relegated to the bench. Using that Chelsea has more money or spend more money is such a cop out, but you will expect that from you lot. Everyone bemoans Wenger for not spending and in the same breath mouth off on Chelsea and Man City for spending.

Haha, I never said there was anything wrong with teams flexing their financial muscle - I was just responding to the claim that players chose Chelsea over Utd based on merit and not other mitigating factors.

That Chelsea and City can lure players away from Utd with relatively limitless resources is clearly an advantage to them - and coupled with Utd's questionable track record with big name signings in the past - has led to more of a focus on investing in starlets to ingrain in the Utd culture from a young age. Whether many of these players will pan out remains to be seen - but with the current debt - Utd simply cannot afford to spend what other clubs can even if they wanted to.

Is this an excuse - no. It is a reason as to why clubs like Chelsea have caught up to Utd and why clubs like Arsenal have won nothing in years. Utd have dominated the EPL for 3 of the past 4 seasons and came within 2 points of winning it again despite losing their best player/the worst injury spell in memory and without much strengthening. Money helps - but Utd will always be competitive - even if their scouting department now has to work on overtime to unearth under-the-radar type players.

I can't hate though - City have a pretty decent prospective lineup, on paper at least (not sure bout Kompany being left out).

(http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/man-city-xi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on August 19, 2010, 10:02:01 PM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.

Actually United's not getting Robben paved the way for them to get Ronaldo. I would take Ronaldo over Robben any day! And if memory serves my right Chelski over paid for Robben after Kenyon hijacked the deal when he went to Chelski.


Haha, na well I woulda taken both. Ronaldo on the left and Robben on the right - that would have been a deadly combination - though possibly just as much so in the locker room and defensively. From an attacking standpoint though - those 2 are probably the premier wingers of the 2000's.

But fuh real you would really have to wonder, what would have happened if Kenyon had not reportedly mucked up both that and the Ronaldinho deals. Not that Utd have exactly suffered unduly since then :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 20, 2010, 06:12:07 AM
Yuh mean like Ronaldinho  :devil:

Or Arjen Robben, John Obi Mikel or Michael Essien??  :devil: :devil:


Haha so Utd can't compete with Chelsea financially - tha eh exactly breakin news - and I see no shame in that. No shame either in gettin 12 million in compensation for a player (Mikel) that up to now has not fulfilled his much vaunted potential :)

Sure I woulda loved Essien and Robben - but if Utd had the same money that Chelsea did - who do you really tink the players would have chosen at the end of the day?

If a team beats u based on prestige das one ting - but cause they can pay more or players favour another league or country? Wa yuh go do yes.

That money argument pissing me off now. This is a business and it is not Chelsea fault that Abramovich saw a better investment in Chelsea than he did Man Utd or any other EPL team. Why did the Glasers choose Man Utd to off load there debts. This is business, why would you not spend your money to make your product/business better if you can. In every business the idea is to be better than your competition, whether it's spending money, improving facilities or bringing top notch employees, the underlying factor is to be more successful than the next competitor. When Man Utd paid 30 mill for Ferdinand who has done absolutely nothing or the same for Berbatov who finally scored vs New Castle, or Anderson who is relegated to the bench. Using that Chelsea has more money or spend more money is such a cop out, but you will expect that from you lot. Everyone bemoans Wenger for not spending and in the same breath mouth off on Chelsea and Man City for spending.

Haha, I never said there was anything wrong with teams flexing their financial muscle - I was just responding to the claim that players chose Chelsea over Utd based on merit and not other mitigating factors.

That Chelsea and City can lure players away from Utd with relatively limitless resources is clearly an advantage to them - and coupled with Utd's questionable track record with big name signings in the past - has led to more of a focus on investing in starlets to ingrain in the Utd culture from a young age. Whether many of these players will pan out remains to be seen - but with the current debt - Utd simply cannot afford to spend what other clubs can even if they wanted to.

Is this an excuse - no. It is a reason as to why clubs like Chelsea have caught up to Utd and why clubs like Arsenal have won nothing in years. Utd have dominated the EPL for 3 of the past 4 seasons and came within 2 points of winning it again despite losing their best player/the worst injury spell in memory and without much strengthening. Money helps - but Utd will always be competitive - even if their scouting department now has to work on overtime to unearth under-the-radar type players.

I can't hate though - City have a pretty decent prospective lineup, on paper at least (not sure bout Kompany being left out).

(http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/man-city-xi.jpg)

doh study them, utd brand does come through no matter which players we have. If we can't afford to pay big money for each and every player so be it, we have to choose who to splash the cash on even though it dont always work out- but guess what we does still win.

What Real win last year? how much CL titles chelsea win since Abram take over with he billions?
Some players like the hype and big money associated with some of the clubs, but look at those players, how much of them are really loyal to a club, how many identify with the passion of the fans? They cant compare to men like Giggs, Raul, Lampard, Gerrad etc.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 22, 2010, 08:55:47 AM
game today again fellas , we playing Fulham at 11pm est

live feeds

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83721&part=sports

http://www.atdhe.net/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 22, 2010, 09:15:42 AM
scholes with a rocket 1 nil. berba playin with some life lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 22, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
good point fellas, fulham won this fixture the last few times :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 22, 2010, 10:57:17 AM
2 points dropped buh da was justice because da wasn no penalty.  Apart from dat me eh care who vex nah buh Zamora is ah f**kin boss CF.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 22, 2010, 10:58:41 AM
Good fight from Fulham.  Man U didn't look convincing at the back.  Evans was very shaky today.  Notes:  Please, Roy Hudgson, leave Konchesky at Fulham; DO NOT bring him to Liverpool.  fULHAM's number two, Stockdale, is good to go.  Let Schwarzer g, if he wants.  This fella is technically solid.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 22, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
2 points dropped buh da was justice because da wasn no penalty.  Apart from dat me eh care who vex nah buh Zamora is ah f**kin boss CF.

Ref is ah cu*t for giving that.  That is allI have to say.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 22, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
Good fight from Fulham.  Man U didn't look convincing at the back.  Evans was very shaky today.  Notes:  Please, Roy Hudgson, leave Konchesky at Fulham; DO NOT bring him to Liverpool.  fULHAM's number two, Stockdale, is good to go.  Let Schwarzer g, if he wants.  This fella is technically solid.

Ah agree wit yuh on Stockdale.  I hope Fulham doh Borrow Given to put in front of him because de yute lookin very good between de stix to me.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 22, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
2 points dropped buh da was justice because da wasn no penalty.  Apart from dat me eh care who vex nah buh Zamora is ah f**kin boss CF.

Ref is ah cu*t for giving that.  That is allI have to say.

Lol.. ent?  Absolute shit call.

Killa, I echo the sentiments... but I am a Zamora supporter so no real surprise there. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 22, 2010, 01:48:47 PM
Man U lookin ordinary, I'm happy to say.
Down with Man U!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on August 22, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Man U lookin ordinary, I'm happy to say.
Down with Man U!!!

when i see man like owen and giggs coming off the bench i say lorsss  this is the best fergie have?   manu cannot rely on old man scholes to be firing all season...chicharito still taking time to learn de system he will come good.   manu ent look hot defensively at all...evans look like a school boy today...damn, i hate to say it but right now chelsea looking good to repeat
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on August 22, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
good point fellas, fulham won this fixture the last few times :beermug:

you is SAF spin doctor?

Fulham pull out two wins last season after 45 years without one and all of a sudden this is a "good point"? And up 2-1 with a chance to go 3?

Nah nah. ManUre standards real drop boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on August 22, 2010, 05:47:21 PM
Arsenal go finish higher than girl U this season.  ;D


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 22, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
good point fellas, fulham won this fixture the last few times :beermug:

you is SAF spin doctor?

Fulham pull out two wins last season after 45 years without one and all of a sudden this is a "good point"? And up 2-1 with a chance to go 3?

Nah nah. ManUre standards real drop boy.

All the more reason why the 1 point salvaged by Fullham with the draw, was a "good point".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 22, 2010, 06:38:59 PM
Arsenal go finish higher than girl U this season.  ;D




underestimate us at your own peril
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on August 22, 2010, 07:46:22 PM
good point fellas, fulham won this fixture the last few times :beermug:

you is SAF spin doctor?

Fulham pull out two wins last season after 45 years without one and all of a sudden this is a "good point"? And up 2-1 with a chance to go 3?

Nah nah. ManUre standards real drop boy.

All the more reason why the 1 point salvaged by Fullham with the draw, was a "good point".

It eh a 'good' point - but it eh a horrible result neither. Utd have not won at Fulham in years - and indeed have always had a hard time at the Cottage.

They should have won under the circumstances - but didn't deserve to - and if Fulham won Utd could not have really complained much. It was points dropped - especially since Giggs should have taken the penalty - but Utd were simply not good enough on the day.

Utd always start slowly though - and Chelsea have run up the score against very weak opposition - so it's too early to tell how the season is going to play out.

I still think Utd is lightweight in a couple positions - and obviously need Rooney to return to form - but it seems SAF is set on the core of this team, so I guess we go hadda make due with the question marks.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 22, 2010, 07:47:46 PM
Man U lookin ordinary, I'm happy to say.
Down with Man U!!!

when i see man like owen and giggs coming off the bench i say lorsss  this is the best fergie have?   manu cannot rely on old man scholes to be firing all season...chicharito still taking time to learn de system he will come good.   manu ent look hot defensively at all...evans look like a school boy today...damn, i hate to say it but right now chelsea looking good to repeat

They selling Chicharito by next 2 years.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 22, 2010, 08:09:16 PM
It eh a 'good' point - but it eh a horrible result neither. Utd have not won at Fulham in years - and indeed have always had a hard time at the Cottage.

They should have won under the circumstances - but didn't deserve to - and if Fulham won Utd could not have really complained much. It was points dropped - especially since Giggs should have taken the penalty - but Utd were simply not good enough on the day.

Utd always start slowly though - and Chelsea have run up the score against very weak opposition - so it's too early to tell how the season is going to play out.

I still think Utd is lightweight in a couple positions - and obviously need Rooney to return to form - but it seems SAF is set on the core of this team, so I guess we go hadda make due with the question marks.

I having a hard time reconciling the inherent inconsistency of men being in absolute agreement that United should have won the game... yet refusing to concede that Fulham did well to earn a point from the fixture.  Under the circumstances Fulham lucky they didn't come away with zero points... that fact that you can argue that ManU dropped points meant that Fulham did well to capitalize on that opportunity.

The "not a good point" position seems to be predicated on the notion that Fulham should be contented with getting any points from United... which is a separate discussion entirely from "they did well to steal a point".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 23, 2010, 09:08:43 AM
2 points dropped buh da was justice because da wasn no penalty.  Apart from dat me eh care who vex nah buh Zamora is ah f**kin boss CF.

Ref is ah cu*t for giving that.  That is allI have to say.

Lol.. ent?  Absolute shit call.

Killa, I echo the sentiments... but I am a Zamora supporter so no real surprise there. 

I will admit ah never really pay much attention to him until sometime lass year eh, buh watchin de level of control in his flicks and other passes, the hold up play, and the timing of his runs that man is an absolute boss player and deserve he England call up.  If he stays healthy Capello infatuation with Heskey might come to ah serious halt.  Ah know certain people here eh no fan ah de man buh if we was able to get him to play on the national team in the past we would have benefitted from his football IQ and skills.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2010, 10:37:18 AM
2 points dropped buh da was justice because da wasn no penalty.  Apart from dat me eh care who vex nah buh Zamora is ah f**kin boss CF.

Ref is ah cu*t for giving that.  That is allI have to say.

Lol.. ent?  Absolute shit call.

Killa, I echo the sentiments... but I am a Zamora supporter so no real surprise there. 

I will admit ah never really pay much attention to him until sometime lass year eh, buh watchin de level of control in his flicks and other passes, the hold up play, and the timing of his runs that man is an absolute boss player and deserve he England call up.  If he stays healthy Capello infatuation with Heskey might come to ah serious halt.  Ah know certain people here eh no fan ah de man buh if we was able to get him to play on the national team in the past we would have benefitted from his football IQ and skills.

Like plenty EPL strikers de man could be profligate in front ah goal, but ever since he was with West Ham back in 2006 is when I started watching him.  I used to like that team mainly because of Shaka's connection to it, so I started watching more games when ah could and liked him, Harewood and Reo-Coker.  Zamora deceptively strong... not ox strong like Heskey, but fuh ah lanky fella he hard to push off the ball.  He have ah nice quick turn and know how to get his shot off while being jostled.  He have a decent first touch too and if not for injuries over the years woulda get call up by England long time.  Man could be bitter and talk shit about him all dey want, I happy fuh pardna yes.


...and yes, ah contributing tuh de jacking ah de thread, lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2010, 10:32:19 AM
game against west ham 12:30pm

live feeds

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=83728&part=sports

http://www.atdhe.net/23192/watch-manchester-united-vs-west-ham
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 28, 2010, 11:06:07 AM
What a cheat. And so it begins AGAIN.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2010, 11:17:56 AM
What a cheat. And so it begins AGAIN.

   Wha yuh talkin' 'bout, de penalty call?  It look like a legit call man.....doh be too hard on dem just yet. (leave some fuh me!  ;D)....but oh GAWSH ah cyah stand dem british commentators that love to rate up rooney like he's the best invention since the internet.  De man score a dam (poorly taken) penalty after not scoring fuh so long and such a poor showing in SA and the commentator cyah contain he self, talkin' bout rooney
"...off and running...".  Off and running WHAT?!  To where?  Let 'im have at least have two or tree goals in de bag before allyuh start wettin' allyuh self over he nuh! 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 11:43:50 AM
The thing a like about Nani is he working on his left foot so he can be two footed! Can only get better!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 28, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
The thing a like about Nani is he working on his left foot so he can be two footed! Can only get better!

What a sweet strike.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
What a cheat. And so it begins AGAIN.

   Wha yuh talkin' 'bout, de penalty call?  It look like a legit call man.....doh be too hard on dem just yet. (leave some fuh me!  ;D)....but oh GAWSH ah cyah stand dem british commentators that love to rate up rooney like he's the best invention since the internet.  De man score a dam (poorly taken) penalty after not scoring fuh so long and such a poor showing in SA and the commentator cyah contain he self, talkin' bout rooney
"...off and running...".  Off and running WHAT?!  To where?  Let 'im have at least have two or tree goals in de bag before allyuh start wettin' allyuh self over he nuh! 

I aint goh lie Rooney rell disappointment meh in the WC . His lack of effort was appalling and watchin him run around for United is in sharp contrast. He went down a notch for me.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 11:59:50 AM
Berbatov look like Johan!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 28, 2010, 12:00:15 PM
Whata finish by Berbatov.....  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2010, 12:02:18 PM
wow berba hot dis season what a cracker
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 12:07:10 PM
wow berba hot dis season what a cracker

If berbatov learn to be satisfied with mixing in the simple with the spectacular he would be more affective as a United player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2010, 12:12:33 PM
Smalling lookin like a loser, dat fella should be in League 1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2010, 12:22:22 PM
Smalling lookin like a loser, dat fella should be in League 1


He look like he is the clumsy sort and he still going tru puberty!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 28, 2010, 12:27:45 PM
What a cheat. And so it begins AGAIN.

   Wha yuh talkin' 'bout, de penalty call?  It look like a legit call man.....doh be too hard on dem just yet. (leave some fuh me!  ;D)....but oh GAWSH ah cyah stand dem british commentators that love to rate up rooney like he's the best invention since the internet.  De man score a dam (poorly taken) penalty after not scoring fuh so long and such a poor showing in SA and the commentator cyah contain he self, talkin' bout rooney
"...off and running...".  Off and running WHAT?!  To where?  Let 'im have at least have two or tree goals in de bag before allyuh start wettin' allyuh self over he nuh! 

I aint goh lie Rooney rell disappointment meh in the WC . His lack of effort was appalling and watchin him run around for United is in sharp contrast. He went down a notch for me.

   Dey so high on he....dey talkin' 'bout nani needed to score to redeem himself after missin' de penalty last week.  Oh, and rooney didn't have some self redemption in order, too, after an abysmal summer?  wtf?!  (but I eh go lie, dat was a very beautiful goal by berbatov, boy!!....if only Spurs coulda keep 'im)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2010, 12:46:28 PM
3 and easy... Keep it going

tough tough tough away game vs Everton after the international break...at 7 45am.... Hopefully we get 3 points... If we play like today and the newcastle game then we should be fine
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on August 28, 2010, 02:53:02 PM
It eh a 'good' point - but it eh a horrible result neither. Utd have not won at Fulham in years - and indeed have always had a hard time at the Cottage.

They should have won under the circumstances - but didn't deserve to - and if Fulham won Utd could not have really complained much. It was points dropped - especially since Giggs should have taken the penalty - but Utd were simply not good enough on the day.

Utd always start slowly though - and Chelsea have run up the score against very weak opposition - so it's too early to tell how the season is going to play out.

I still think Utd is lightweight in a couple positions - and obviously need Rooney to return to form - but it seems SAF is set on the core of this team, so I guess we go hadda make due with the question marks.

I having a hard time reconciling the inherent inconsistency of men being in absolute agreement that United should have won the game... yet refusing to concede that Fulham did well to earn a point from the fixture.  Under the circumstances Fulham lucky they didn't come away with zero points... that fact that you can argue that ManU dropped points meant that Fulham did well to capitalize on that opportunity.

The "not a good point" position seems to be predicated on the notion that Fulham should be contented with getting any points from United... which is a separate discussion entirely from "they did well to steal a point".

If Ryan was congratulating Fulham for getting a good point - I miss the boat. A point against Man U when you're not part of the big 4 is always welcome and better yet if you steal it at the end...so of course i agree.

But I got the impression that Man U men were trying to relativise the dropped points (in relation to Chelsea for example), as per xixgon's later "Man U ent win this fixture in years", talk.

While technically true (as 2 years IS yearS), Man U won 3-0 at Craven College in the 2007-2008 season and had mash them up there in the FA Cup 4-0 the following season as well...so yeah...

standards dropping.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 28, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
If Ryan was congratulating Fulham for getting a good point - I miss the boat. A point against Man U when you're not part of the big 4 is always welcome and better yet if you steal it at the end...so of course i agree.

But I got the impression that Man U men were trying to relativise the dropped points (in relation to Chelsea for example), as per xixgon's later "Man U ent win this fixture in years", talk.

While technically true (as 2 years IS yearS), Man U won 3-0 at Craven College in the 2007-2008 season and had mash them up there in the FA Cup 4-0 the following season as well...so yeah...

standards dropping.

What??  ???

I'm not even sure if you're responding to me here.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 28, 2010, 03:00:08 PM
It eh a 'good' point - but it eh a horrible result neither. Utd have not won at Fulham in years - and indeed have always had a hard time at the Cottage.

They should have won under the circumstances - but didn't deserve to - and if Fulham won Utd could not have really complained much. It was points dropped - especially since Giggs should have taken the penalty - but Utd were simply not good enough on the day.

Utd always start slowly though - and Chelsea have run up the score against very weak opposition - so it's too early to tell how the season is going to play out.

I still think Utd is lightweight in a couple positions - and obviously need Rooney to return to form - but it seems SAF is set on the core of this team, so I guess we go hadda make due with the question marks.

I having a hard time reconciling the inherent inconsistency of men being in absolute agreement that United should have won the game... yet refusing to concede that Fulham did well to earn a point from the fixture.  Under the circumstances Fulham lucky they didn't come away with zero points... that fact that you can argue that ManU dropped points meant that Fulham did well to capitalize on that opportunity.

The "not a good point" position seems to be predicated on the notion that Fulham should be contented with getting any points from United... which is a separate discussion entirely from "they did well to steal a point".

If Ryan was congratulating Fulham for getting a good point - I miss the boat. A point against Man U when you're not part of the big 4 is always welcome and better yet if you steal it at the end...so of course i agree.

But I got the impression that Man U men were trying to relativise the dropped points (in relation to Chelsea for example), as per xixgon's later "Man U ent win this fixture in years", talk.

While technically true (as 2 years IS yearS), Man U won 3-0 at Craven College in the 2007-2008 season and had mash them up there in the FA Cup 4-0 the following season as well...so yeah...

standards dropping.

Dude, calm down, i doh take dis $hit thread seriously, I does post any ole garbage in here. ;D

Everyone in here miss de boat, look d thread still called Home of The Champions lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 03, 2010, 11:12:14 AM
Macheda v. Oldham Athletic

http://www.youtube.com/v/-vm6nOcX-0w
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 11, 2010, 05:59:18 AM
Priceless.

http://www.youtube.com/v/LC_f9CB1Pmg&fmt=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on September 11, 2010, 06:21:42 AM
Man U v Everton - 33 mins - Howard just pulled off an incredible save from a deflected Scholes super-bullet. Save of the season so far  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on September 11, 2010, 06:23:35 AM
Man U v Everton - 33 mins - Howard just pulled off an incredible save from a deflected Scholes super-bullet. Save of the season so far  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

Any links today, I not home and only internet access
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on September 11, 2010, 06:24:55 AM
Man U v Everton - 33 mins - Howard just pulled off an incredible save from a deflected Scholes super-bullet. Save of the season so far  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

Any links today, I not home and only internet access

Sorry, I'm watchin it on TV. Howard with another great save on 38 minutes.

EDIT: 39 minutes - 1-0 Everton, Pienaar  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on September 11, 2010, 07:38:26 AM
BOOM BANG

Everton score twice in injury time to draw 3-3. Two chord in yuh....  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on September 11, 2010, 07:42:49 AM
MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHMUAUAUAHHHHH  :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

and Jagielka shoulda purge alyuh in the end.

BOOM
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on September 11, 2010, 07:53:40 AM
Moyes and Everton have every right to be pissed at the referee. The ref wait till the break away was well and truly on the way to blow the whistle. As soon as the corner was cleared he should have blown, not let the dam attack develop and then say game done.  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 11, 2010, 07:54:10 AM
 :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 11, 2010, 07:54:54 AM
MAN U SUCKS!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 11, 2010, 07:55:10 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 11, 2010, 08:17:13 AM
 :shameonyou:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 11, 2010, 08:29:02 AM
a timely administered dose of poison..

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 12, 2010, 03:17:26 PM
Rooney is a loser! Creates personal drama which has led to him not being of state and mind to do the damn job he is being paid lots of money to perform. And before the ABU brigade start chimin in; his absence had nothing to do with the team givin up two late goals.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 13, 2010, 09:39:23 AM
Ref see Man U about to drop all the points and blow it off yes lol- now that is as poor and blatant as it gets...to make matters worse the fella scuff the shot and VDS made a routine save so they didn't even need the ref's help (not sure if he heard the whistle and hence it took away from the effort on goal)....but that was horrible refereeing.  I mean how do you argue against that?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 13, 2010, 09:50:01 AM
One day the bribery by Man U will become public.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2010, 04:24:56 PM
shit i hear Valencia leg snap  :-X cracks

(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/104086657.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E6C80361CAD98BE91E5BC64ABBB8F54171A9A8E4E9999A5385)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on September 14, 2010, 07:12:21 PM
sad to hear another leg break not matter who the team is

starting to look like sliding challenges might get ban
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 14, 2010, 08:29:35 PM
This season is lookin more sketchy every week yes - get well soon Antonio  :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 14, 2010, 10:44:53 PM
This season is lookin more sketchy every week yes - get well soon Antonio  :-\

ent...and to think we are unbeaten and already beaten Chelsea in the community shield

The manner of the draws make it feel like we lost and today's frustration vs a 10 man blue wall compounded with the loss of a key player in Valencia... I hope the diagnosis is until January but I fear his season is over...

A free Joe Cole seems regretful now huh Fergie

Seems every thing is going against us...we've loaned out Cleverley who has been playing LW in pre season... Nani is now the number 1 Right Winger.. Park, Giggs, Obertan and Bebe to compete....

anything but a win vs the scousers at OT on Sunday will be a massive failure in a massively frustrating week.... I sense a backlash... 5-1


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 15, 2010, 05:19:48 AM
A free Joe Cole seems regretful now huh Fergie

Joe Cole is not a Valencia replacement. Staying away from him was a great move.

These injuries seem so prevalent these days. No doubt the game is faster and players are bigger and stronger so the forces involved are increased but...

I watching them thing on his feet and they don't even look like a football boots. These men are pros and I have to defer to their judgement. Nobody want to slip at an inopportune time and they play on softer, wetter pitches than I ever play on with more grass.

They more prone to their feet sticking no matter what boots they use but I want to believe a set of pegs below your shoes will give yuh more lateral movement than that shark tooth madness below them boots.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 15, 2010, 06:04:54 AM
Damn... real sorry to hear this.  Quality, quality player.  And even if he wasn't, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.  I hope he can make a full and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on September 15, 2010, 07:19:42 AM
A free Joe Cole seems regretful now huh Fergie

Joe Cole is not a Valencia replacement. Staying away from him was a great move.

These injuries seem so prevalent these days. No doubt the game is faster and players are bigger and stronger so the forces involved are increased but...

I watching them thing on his feet and they don't even look like a football boots. These men are pros and I have to defer to their judgement. Nobody want to slip at an inopportune time and they play on softer, wetter pitches than I ever play on with more grass.

They more prone to their feet sticking no matter what boots they use but I want to believe a set of pegs below your shoes will give yuh more lateral movement than that shark tooth madness below them boots.


I dey with yuh... dey need to do some studies on this...

about 2 years ago.. i fawk up my left foot while leading a breakaway... dry so my foot just stick on the turf and my whole body weight carry forward and roll my whole foot... ah coulda break it... as it was, i was out for 2 months and had to get cortisone shot and all kinda ting...

dat never happen to me before or since... i gone back to copas oui
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 15, 2010, 11:34:11 AM
I dey with yuh... dey need to do some studies on this...

about 2 years ago.. i fawk up my left foot while leading a breakaway... dry so my foot just stick on the turf and my whole body weight carry forward and roll my whole foot... ah coulda break it... as it was, i was out for 2 months and had to get cortisone shot and all kinda ting...

dat never happen to me before or since... i gone back to copas oui

Is all anecdotal right now because nobody knows how many or what type of injuries happen with traditional boots but when yuh see some of these blade injuries and how men foot does stick it does really make yuh wonder.

If yuh have belly check this compilation (http://www.101greatgoals.com/after-antonio-valencias-horror-injury-a-video-round-up-of-bad-breaks/65107/). I couldn't watch all of them and couldn't make out the boots worn but the last one, Coupet was definitely a pair of blades.

The second to last one was just a piece of vicious wildness but a lot of them was men who foot get hit from the side and couldn't "slide free".

I repeat...if yuh don't have the belly for nastiness don't follow the link. Some of it real cringeworthy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2010, 11:41:51 AM
Man Utd's Antonio Valencia set to miss rest of season

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49104000/jpg/_49104168_010187367-1.jpg)

Manchester United's Antonio Valencia is likely to be out for the rest of the season after suffering a serious ankle injury in the 0-0 draw with Rangers.

The winger was carried off after going down under an innocuous-looking tackle from Kirk Broadfoot in the 62nd minute of the Champions League match.

Valencia, 25, was taken to hospital and will undergo surgery on Wednesday.

"It looks like a dislocation and a fracture," said boss Sir Alex Ferguson. "We're talking the rest of the season."

Ferguson compared the severity of the injury to that suffered by former United player Alan Smith, who broke his left leg and dislocated his ankle in an FA Cup tie against Liverpool in February 2006.

Smith was out for seven months, which if repeated with Valencia, would keep the winger out until April.

Ferguson had much sympathy for Valencia and added: "It is a bad blow for the boy. It is similar to the injury Alan Smith got.

"He seemed to dig his toe into the turf and as soon as we saw the Rangers player waving we knew it was a bad one - and it's turned into a bad one."

Broadfoot, who immediately signalled that Valencia needed treatment, spoke after the match of his horror at witnessing the injury.

"I'm not too sure what happened," he stated. "I just slid in and looked round and his bone was sticking out. We tried to get the physio on to help him because you don't like to see that.

"These things happen and hopefully he makes a fast recovery. I've never seen anything like that so close before.

"You see things like that on television and it's not good but to see it there in front of you, it doesn't look nice and I just hope he recovers quickly."

Manchester United team-mate Darren Fletcher expressed sympathy for Valencia and predicted the Ecuador player will have a big future at Old Trafford.

"He had a great first season and was looking to push on this year," said Fletcher. "That is why the injury is a real blow.

"He has only just got back from the injury he suffered at the end of last season too.

"He is a strong character and a good lad. He has real determination and works hard. He will be back I am sure. He will have a long future at Manchester United."

Valencia's injury is comparable to the one England rugby union international Danny Cipriani suffered in May 2008.

Cipriani had a fracture dislocation of his right ankle that resulted in him being sidelined for five months.

Former Arsenal striker Eduardo suffered a broken leg and dislocated ankle in a Premier League game against Birmingham in 2008, returning to action a year later.

Manchester United are already without the services of England midfielder Michael Carrick because of an ankle injury, although Brazilian Anderson is available again following a seven-month absence with cruciate ligament damage.

Ferguson, too, has other options out wide in the form of Nani, Gabriel Obertan, veteran Ryan Giggs, who replaced Valencia on the night, and Ji-Sung Park, who started on the left flank in the Group C clash against the Scottish champions.

Valencia, who arrived at United from Wigan in June 2009 as Cristiano Ronaldo departed for Real Madrid, was making his fourth appearance of a season that began with him scoring in the 3-1 Community Shield win over Chelsea.

However, Ferguson was able to give positive news on Wayne Rooney, who was limping after going over on his ankle just before half-time.

"Wayne Rooney is OK," said Ferguson. "He went over on his ankle but it was no problem."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8999551.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: davidephraim on September 19, 2010, 07:27:55 AM
small Mag wha going on with allyuh dis year breds. Manu supporters thread dont get no love no more?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 19, 2010, 07:50:28 AM
Men too busy watching the magnificence that is Nani and Berbatov.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 19, 2010, 07:53:42 AM
Clear penalty for Liverpool.

2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 19, 2010, 08:00:53 AM
Steups 2-2 on some all-round dotish defending
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on September 19, 2010, 08:26:14 AM
Tha Berbatov bicycle was pure class...look like he Tottenham time dey
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 19, 2010, 08:47:58 AM
BOOM BANG

Dimi!!!! Hat trick hero... 3-2 Full Time

Great result.....Berbaaaaa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 19, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
I dont make no threads...I watching the game..not waiting for Elan and Ryan reaction during games

3-2 full time... Berbaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on September 19, 2010, 08:49:02 AM
Great game between United an Liverpool tho I hate to admit O'Shea should have been sent off because he was the last man but it was a FANTASTIC Hat-trick by Berbatov. Glory Glory Manchester United!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FireBrand on September 19, 2010, 08:50:20 AM
Berbaaaaa kill dem today!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 19, 2010, 08:51:19 AM
Well done Berbatov; it seems like you have lost your jitters and mentally comfortable playing for United. Things he was tryin last season comin off this season. Thank goodness berbatov scored cause this losing leads is gettin old real fast. Mental lapses and self inflicted wounds have led to dropped points. Good thing is season early and room for improvement. Rooney pullin stones and killin plays! Nani appears to be deadlier in the second half of games.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: College on September 19, 2010, 09:23:45 AM
http://www.eplmatches.com/2010/09/19/man-utd-vs-liverpool-highlights-3/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 19, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
I dont make no threads...I watching the game..not waiting for Elan and Ryan reaction during games

3-2 full time... Berbaaaaaaa

 :cheers:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 19, 2010, 09:35:27 AM
berba rel on fire this season dread  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 19, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
http://www.eplmatches.com/2010/09/19/man-utd-vs-liverpool-highlights-3/

OH shit look that bicycle  :o damn
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 19, 2010, 09:51:11 AM
This thread and all needs to be merged.
Congrats, Man U scrape a win against a real shit side today!

This is the most goals Liverpool score in the EPL this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 19, 2010, 11:22:02 AM
I dont make no threads...I watching the game..not waiting for Elan and Ryan reaction during games

3-2 full time... Berbaaaaaaa

Must cyah make no thread when yuh have to be praying yuh team win ah game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 19, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on September 19, 2010, 12:25:51 PM
Berba  :applause: :applause: different class so far this season! He showing real versatility with his clinical finishing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 19, 2010, 12:32:43 PM
http://www.eplmatches.com/2010/09/19/man-utd-vs-liverpool-highlights-3/

OH shit look that bicycle  :o damn

That's an overhead kick... not a bicycle.


... nice goal all the same.

Not even go talk about that O'Shea play...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 19, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!
SIGH!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Red Mango on September 19, 2010, 01:11:53 PM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!
:beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 19, 2010, 06:50:24 PM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!

 ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 19, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!

yeps.....yuh wish yuh shit side cud qualify for them kinda calls eh  ;)  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 20, 2010, 09:05:55 AM
Just taking my licks until we could get dem two kakahole out ah Anfield. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 20, 2010, 05:07:49 PM
I hate to rehash the obvious, but i eh go lie dem refs is blatantly tief for man u dread..

second half i see webb blow for a foul.. The ball still rolling fast and them fellas just play on without spotting the ball to try to get an advantage.. Webb turn around, watch what happen and just say play on yes.

Then O'shea was supposed to be a red, bet yuh bottom dollar if it was a Liverpool defender did that he woulda get sent off with the quickness.

all this on the back of the ref blowing off a play last week on a goal attempt.

It blatant fellas, blatant!!

yeps.....yuh wish yuh shit side cud qualify for them kinda calls eh  ;)  :rotfl:

Whoever say O'Shea was a red card is jus biased cause it was not a clear goalscorin opportunity - last man don't mean automatic sendin off. The ref determined that there was a good chance that Van Der Sar could have reached the ball first; general obstruction = yellow card - plain and simple.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Red Mango on September 20, 2010, 05:22:14 PM
Just taking my licks until we could get dem two kakahole out ah Anfield. 

Fuh real eh... :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 20, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
From The Republik of Mancunia Blog:-

After being interview by Sky Sports after our 3-2 win over Liverpool, Dimitar Berbatov gave an interview with a Bulgarian TV network in his native tongue.

Here is the translation, with Berbatov being referred to as Mitko, the name he is known by in his home country.


Mitko you have had a troubled time…

I wouldn’t say troubled. I am not troubled. I am lucky. I have loved my time here.


A disappointing time. Would you say that?


I was disappointed with myself that I could not please all the supporters. I have said before the people of Manchester United are the judges and that is the way it should be. It is their team. I am a guest. A privileged guest.


This season what has changed?


Man, I don’t know but I’m just so happy. So confident. I feel like everything I imagine on the pitch will come true and that feels awesome. I have worked hard on my fitness. So hard. I’m not a weights guy, I’m sure you can see by my body, but I have been trying even to work on that. I ran 6 miles every day during the off season. I watched one World Cup match, went for a run. Then watched another and went for another run. This was my routine.


Wow…you must be tired!


No man that’s the thing. This crowd at Old Trafford. The way I feel right now. I’m not tired. I feel alive. I have always said I am so lucky to play here. For these people. For this manager. For this club. With these players. I can’t describe it man.


It is showing. Keep it up Mitko. What will you do now. Will you watch your goals?

No. Noooooooo! I can’t watch myself. Even when I came off and everyone was applauding I felt so shy. I love it but I don’t know how to react to it. I’m going to go home. Play with my family and maybe watch a movie later. I can’t wait for training. How weird is that?!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 21, 2010, 10:20:20 AM
Just taking my licks until we could get dem two kakahole out ah Anfield. 

Fuh real eh... :beermug: :beermug:

carragher and gerrad?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 27, 2010, 08:37:09 AM
Like men still watching this weekend game or what how dey eh posting.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 27, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
lol not one supporter posted since the game eh.
Things lookin bad in Mancunia.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 27, 2010, 09:51:44 AM
lol not one supporter posted since the game eh.
Things lookin bad in Mancunia.

Is only post everytime Berbatov score a hatrick.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 27, 2010, 11:15:21 AM
They just lucky Elmander didnt poison them when he belt a man in the pk box and sky an easy chance overbars.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 27, 2010, 04:17:51 PM
Haha I suppose I could just post the obvious that the team is lacking in key areas - that without Rooney returning to form and/or adequate cover for Scholes and Fletcher Utd aren't as imposing.

That Johnny Evans clearly ain't ready yet, and I startin to worry that he ever will be.

But yet still - Glory Glory Man Utd! 


Now back to absorbin da draw wit d rest a d fellas  :D

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on September 30, 2010, 07:16:15 PM
Rio returns and we get our first away win and clean sheet in 6 games - no coincidence there.

Too bad the course of our season still probably depends on injury prone, aged and mentally distracted players.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 02, 2010, 11:55:03 AM
Another frogging Tie!!!  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 02, 2010, 07:19:22 PM
 :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 02, 2010, 07:23:07 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 03, 2010, 08:09:54 AM
Whey....where all the supporters gone. Is only 2 die hard supporters for this thread. I thought real supporters does stick with you through the not-so-good times    :angel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on October 03, 2010, 01:19:15 PM
Least these draws are comin away from home at traditionally difficult places to get 3 points.

They hadda start turnin these results into wins before it's too late though - but at least they defense lookin more solid and they doin what they hadda do at home so far.

The lack of investment in the central midfield continues to baffle me - and the lack of creativity yesterday only furthered that (especially in the light of Van der Vaart/Ozil's performances this season).

But I guess we go hadda jus work with what we have right now yes....wa yuh go do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 03, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 04, 2010, 09:44:57 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 04, 2010, 12:40:26 PM
Coca-Cola takes Rooney off cans

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/wayne-rooney-dropped-by-coca-cola-after-sex-allegations (http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/wayne-rooney-dropped-by-coca-cola-after-sex-allegations)

Coca-Cola will no longer use Wayne Rooney's image on cans and bottles following allegations over the English forward's private life.

Following newspaper allegations that he cheated on his then-pregnant wife with a prostitute, Coca-Cola announced Monday that it had stopped using his image to promote its Coke Zero drink.

''Last month we amended our marketing plans on Coke Zero,'' Coca-Cola said in a statement. ''Given the situation at that time we did not feel it was appropriate to run an on-pack promotion featuring Wayne Rooney.''

A year after a sex scandal that cost golfer Tiger Woods three major corporate sponsors worth millions of dollars, Coca-Cola said that it had not decided whether the move was permanent.

The world's largest soft drink maker added that it will continue to use the Manchester United player for other forms of promotion.

Rooney's contract with Coca-Cola is widely reported to be worth more than 500,000 pounds ($792,000) annually. The company has used the player to endorse the product since 2007.

Rooney has conceded that last month's allegations contributed to his poor start to the Premier League season with United.

Rooney has scored just once in six matches for United, which is third in the Premier League and trails defending champion Chelsea by five points.

United manager Alex Ferguson left Rooney out of last month's match against former club Everton following the allegations to avoid abuse by rival fans.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 04, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
Coca-Cola takes Rooney off cans

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/wayne-rooney-dropped-by-coca-cola-after-sex-allegations (http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/premierleague/story/wayne-rooney-dropped-by-coca-cola-after-sex-allegations)

Coca-Cola will no longer use Wayne Rooney's image on cans and bottles following allegations over the English forward's private life.

Following newspaper allegations that he cheated on his then-pregnant wife with a prostitute, Coca-Cola announced Monday that it had stopped using his image to promote its Coke Zero drink.

''Last month we amended our marketing plans on Coke Zero,'' Coca-Cola said in a statement. ''Given the situation at that time we did not feel it was appropriate to run an on-pack promotion featuring Wayne Rooney.''

A year after a sex scandal that cost golfer Tiger Woods three major corporate sponsors worth millions of dollars, Coca-Cola said that it had not decided whether the move was permanent.

The world's largest soft drink maker added that it will continue to use the Manchester United player for other forms of promotion.

Rooney's contract with Coca-Cola is widely reported to be worth more than 500,000 pounds ($792,000) annually. The company has used the player to endorse the product since 2007.

Rooney has conceded that last month's allegations contributed to his poor start to the Premier League season with United.

Rooney has scored just once in six matches for United, which is third in the Premier League and trails defending champion Chelsea by five points.

United manager Alex Ferguson left Rooney out of last month's match against former club Everton following the allegations to avoid abuse by rival fans.


IT GOOD
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 04, 2010, 06:08:11 PM
Remember the commercial where Rooney was playing and had a premonition that he was poor and he had full beard? lol It's almost as if it's happening, but in a different way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 16, 2010, 10:19:16 AM
Look I had to go and bump this thread up from page 3.
Fans that only make noise when they on top are not real fans.

Anyway this is what allyuh good for these days.
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 16, 2010, 10:24:42 AM
Glory Glory   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 16, 2010, 10:36:11 AM
Bad result today.We played with some flair in the first half, but it all went pear shaped in the end. An all too familiar story so far. No need to panic yet though...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 16, 2010, 11:10:52 AM
Chelsea's league to lose, if you ask me:  Arsenal will fade as usual, Spurs are not accustomed to playing in two big leagues in the same season, Man City might be a bit too conservative, considering the quality of their playing personnel...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 16, 2010, 11:16:30 AM
Chelsea's league to lose, if you ask me:  Arsenal will fade as usual, Spurs are not accustomed to playing in two big leagues in the same season, Man City might be a bit too conservative, considering the quality of their playing personnel...

I disagree wid yuh Man City observation...I think they will push us this year....on the other hand, Man U have to pray that Rooney regains his form, otherwise they aren't contenders.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 16, 2010, 11:23:49 AM
Chelsea's league to lose, if you ask me:  Arsenal will fade as usual, Spurs are not accustomed to playing in two big leagues in the same season, Man City might be a bit too conservative, considering the quality of their playing personnel...

thought so last year too and Chelsea nearly fuuck up Chelsea if u get my drift..................so a waitin and prayin but dey could take dis one if dey hold dey head...........started lil shaky at villa today half-time now 0-0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 16, 2010, 11:27:04 AM
oh yeah an' DHW an d res ah d crew way alyuh......ah missin d expert analysis, small mag could get ah bly, he scarce regardless, but wey d res ah allyuh :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :joker:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 16, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Another frogging tie!!! >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 17, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
The problems I see with United this season:

1.A lack of aggressive leadership in midfield and at forward.
2. The team's best players thus far have been Nani and Berbatov but both continue to be inconsistent which reflects in United's lack of killer instinct when op portunites to kill of teams presents it self.
3. It appears that Rooney's head is no longer in the game and he is believing his press clippings which has left United without the aggressive cutting edge that he can provide.
4. The Glazer's and their debt is affecting the team's ability to pursue and buy quality players.
5. United lack creativity in midfield as well as any type of cutting thrust.
6. The team lacks intensity and focus.
7. United maybe going through a transition and we are not very good this year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 17, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
Wayne Rooney declares his intention to walk out on Manchester United

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/17/wayne-rooney-manchester-united

• Striker falls out with Ferguson and could leave in January
• Manchester City and Real Madrid possible destinations

 

Wayne Rooney has thrown Manchester United's season into a state of turmoil after informing the club he has no plans to sign another contract and intends to find new employers. Rooney's decision is based on serious differences with Sir Alex Ferguson, the Guardian understands, and will be a devastating blow to the supporters who have come to regard him as a talismanic figure in this troubled era under Malcolm Glazer's ownership.

United may have no option now but to sell the England striker, possibly in the January transfer window, rather than risk his transfer valuation dramatically lowering now that he is only 20 months away from becoming a free agent.

Rooney has always said he has no desire to play abroad and would like to remain in Manchester for the rest of his career, but his mindset has changed and his availability will inevitably attract interest from major forces such as Real Madrid and Barcelona. Manchester City may feel they have an outside chance of capitalising on what has gone wrong for him at Old Trafford, although their chances are undermined by the fact they already have a huge task ahead of them bringing down their wages to prevent Uefa banning them from European competitions under financial fair-play rules.

The full details are not yet clear but the underlying fact is that Rooney now feels that his working relationship with Ferguson has suffered potentially irreparable damage in the fall-out from tabloid allegations about the striker's private life, coinciding with a dramatic loss of form and a growing sense that the most successful manager in the business has taken a hard-line approach with his player.

Rooney has lost his place in the team, with Ferguson citing a supposed ankle injury, and the 24-year-old felt sufficiently emboldened last week to contradict his manager's version of events and make it clear he has not missed a single training session – and was, in essence, dropped for other reasons.

What has not been established is whether these events have coincided with a disagreement about the amount of money he expected to earn in a new contract. United had been willing to make him the highest earner at the club, with a weekly salary of £150,000, and the club's chief executive, David Gill, had stated several times earlier in the year that the matter would be resolved as soon as Rooney was back from the World Cup.

That now appears to have backfired on Gill, with the message already conveyed to senior figures at Old Trafford that Rooney is now counting down his days at the club. There remains a suspicion it might be a part of the negotiating process, but the Guardian has been informed that, for now at least, Rooney's mind is made up and that he and his family are already contemplating where next to take his career.

If that remains the case, it threatens to be an even more devastating blow to the club than Cristiano Ronaldo's £80m transfer to Real Madrid last year given that it was widely known the Portuguese would eventually move to the Bernabéu. Rooney has always given the opposite impression, immersing himself in the fabric of the club, and now appears to be on the brink of being one of the few players to leave against their wishes. Ferguson has moved on some great footballers, including Ruud van Nistelrooy and David Beckham, but always prides himself on players not being sold unless he says so; in this case it seems clear that the decision was made by Rooney first.

With United desperately trying to keep the matter in-house, Ferguson's views on the subject are not clear, other than he is known to be alarmed and angry about the headlines that Rooney has attracted because of his alleged relationship with a prostitute, Jennifer Thompson and mostly his faltering performances on the pitch. Some United fans will be angry that Rooney seems to have portrayed himself as the victim when it could be argued that he has brought these troubles on himself, but a rift has clearly developed between player and manager.

Rooney has been in the worst form of his professional life for the last seven months, without a goal in open play since the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich in March. Most worryingly, he is showing few signs of emerging from his current slump. Nonetheless, he remains a hero to the United support and was regarded as the player who would help to ensure continuity and success once Ferguson, plus the likes of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes, had retired.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 17, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
If he wants to leave then he should leave! He will not get a better situation than he has at United and if he has an issue with Ferguson checkin him then he is a bigger loser than I thought. Not bigger than the side!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 17, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
Van der Sar in england too long. He beginning to take he goalkeeping advice from the likes of James and Green. Maybe he was liming with Almunia in the off season...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 17, 2010, 06:59:44 PM
If he wants to leave then he should leave! He will not get a better situation than he has at United and if he has an issue with Ferguson checkin him then he is a bigger loser than I thought. Not bigger than the side!

 :o :o :-X
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 17, 2010, 07:06:34 PM
If he wants to leave then he should leave! He will not get a better situation than he has at United and if he has an issue with Ferguson checkin him then he is a bigger loser than I thought. Not bigger than the side!
could not have said it better
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 18, 2010, 06:48:02 AM
Drop 2 points again  :o :o  Anyway Glory Glory, we go take them by Dec  :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 18, 2010, 07:32:59 AM
i will take a special delight in watching the demise of Man United :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on October 18, 2010, 09:12:34 AM
i will take a special delight in watching the demise of Man United :devil:

You ent the only one...

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 18, 2010, 10:12:18 AM
The real question men need to be asking themselves is why is asshole Alex Ferguson bigger than their club..

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on October 19, 2010, 06:32:10 PM
Fergie might have to take down that exit sign quick....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 20, 2010, 07:57:53 AM
whoopsy daisy say goodbye to wayney

no one saw this one coming eh?

so far wayne form/attitude not doing him any favors when it comes to potential new clubs

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 26, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
The kids got the job done today vs Wolves in the Carling Cup RO16

Chicharito came off the bench (80th) and changed the game on its head...locked at 2-2 the Mexican whizkid scored an sublime finish in the 90th to win it...

Bebe scored the first and Park the second....

Onto a massive game with Spurs on Saturday

Chicharito Hernandez is going to be a massive player...what a signing by United
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 30, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
WTH just happen for Nani's goal, I eh see it.

 :rotfl: Gomes thought it was a free kick and rest it down.
If the ref didn't see, but the linesman did see, how could he overrule??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:18:11 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 12:22:55 PM
Great goal! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 30, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.

I am shocked that you posted about that call!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
Classless
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.

I am shocked that you posted about that call!

Tasteless reply right there Giggsy, just like the players at Man United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 30, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Time to check for cash under Clattenberg's mattress.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 30, 2010, 12:32:06 PM
Why are all you Chelski fans so obsessed with United?  Are you closeted fans?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 12:39:15 PM
Why are all you Chelski fans so obsessed with United?  Are you closeted fans?

ent! i cah even remember the last time i went in they thread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 30, 2010, 12:39:46 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.

I am shocked that you posted about that call!

Tasteless reply right there Giggsy, just like the players at Man United.

Not as tasteless as you Chelski fans who can't wait to type about a call you think favored United. It is like you have an inferiority complex while also conveniently forgetting that your beloved Chelski also gets calls in their favor. So spear me the  rose coloured response.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 12:40:06 PM
Why are all you Chelski fans so obsessed with United?  Are you closeted fans?

Focus.... What is your opinion on that call?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 30, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Why are all you Chelski fans so obsessed with United?  Are you closeted fans?

Focus.... What is your opinion on that call?

The goal was given based on the ref's interpretation which I am unaware of. If you know please post it! Goal stands.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on October 30, 2010, 01:09:59 PM
Off the pace

Robbie Keane and Jermaine Jenas, both drafted in to the starting XI for this match, were looking distinctly off the pace in key positions for Spurs.

In the 59th minute, Bale finally gave the away support something to cheer. In a passage reminiscent of his memorable Champions League hat-trick against Inter Milan he strode past a handful of red shirts and bore down on goal, only to see his shot squirm just wide of Van der Sar's far post.

Keane gave way to Roman Pavlyuchenko just past the hour mark, handing the captaincy to Modric in the process.

After Van der Vaart failed to beat Van der Sar from a tight angle, Pavlyuchenko almost got lucky when his 25-yard effort nearly found its way over the line courtesy of Vidic's deflection, before Peter Crouch replaced Van der Vaart - who looked in a little discomfort as he left the pitch - in the 77th minute.

Nani's controversial strike ended matters, with the officials judging play to be active when Gomes placed the ball down in his area after an unsuccessful penalty appeal.

Gomes clearly believed he was lining up a dead ball but the Portuguese winger was the only one on the referee's wavelength and rolled the ball in to tee up furious scenes of protest by the visitors.


Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3283269,00.html

Nani then doubled the lead late on in farcical circumstances. Goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes placed the ball down inside his box in the belief that Spurs had been awarded a free-kick for what he thought was a dive by the Portuguese - but referee Mark Clattenburg, who never blew his whistle, allowed the forward to casually trot up to the ball and knock it into the unguarded net.

Source: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30102010/58/premier-league-bizarre-goal-taints-united-win-spurs.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 01:14:57 PM
Nani's controversial strike ended matters, with the officials judging play to be active when Gomes placed the ball down in his area after an unsuccessful penalty appeal.

Gomes clearly believed he was lining up a dead ball but the Portuguese winger was the only one on the referee's wavelength and rolled the ball in to tee up furious scenes of protest by the visitors.


Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3283269,00.html

Thank you. got to love the Chelsea fans here eh.

edit: Somebody tell Gomes please play to the f**king whistle, damn goat
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 30, 2010, 01:55:16 PM
Thank you. got to love the Chelsea fans here eh.

edit: Somebody tell Gomes please play to the f**king whistle, damn goat

Call him a goat all you wish... there's no denying that fortune always seems to smile on Utd where the refs are concerned.  Should Gomes have played to the whistle?  Sure.  But that also should have been a free kick since Nani clearly, and rightly handled the ball.  I say "rightly" because in that position if you feel you've been fouled and go down, many players will grab the ball to force the ref to call something.  Mysteriously Clattenburg decide to overlook the handball.  Even the linesman was confused as he clearly raised his flag, belatedly... only to be told (apparently) to put it away.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:15:47 PM
Nani's controversial strike ended matters, with the officials judging play to be active when Gomes placed the ball down in his area after an unsuccessful penalty appeal.

Gomes clearly believed he was lining up a dead ball but the Portuguese winger was the only one on the referee's wavelength and rolled the ball in to tee up furious scenes of protest by the visitors.


Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3283269,00.html

Thank you. got to love the Chelsea fans here eh.

edit: Somebody tell Gomes please play to the f**king whistle, damn goat

Since we don't get pity goals we have real time on we hand. Plus that above does nothing to put to rest that The call was ver poor.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
MAN UTD 2-0 TOTTENHAM
Ferguson: Gomes to blame for bizarre Nani goal
October 30, 2010
Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=837573&sec=england&cc=5901)



Sir Alex Ferguson believes Tottenham goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes was to blame for Manchester United's controversial second goal in their 2-0 win over Tottenham, claiming the Brazilian "should have known better''.

Nani poked home the goal after 84 minutes after Gomes had placed the ball down, seemingly thinking his side had been awarded a free-kick in his area.

Nani, who had appealed for a penalty moments earlier, then swooped to score and, after referee Mark Clattenburg consulted with his assistant, the goal was awarded to spark furious protests from the Tottenham players.

"It was bizarre," Ferguson told ESPN. "No-one knew at the time what was wrong. One minute the goalkeeper had the ball in his hands and next it's in his net. Nani looked back and looked at the referee and the referee said play on, so what can he do but put the ball in the net.

"You can look at the referee and look at the linesmen and blame them, but the goalkeeper should know better. He's an experienced goalkeeper. I thought he made a mess of it. I thought it was a penalty first of all and I think Nani felt he handled the ball. But the referee didn't blow for it.


"The referee played on because the goalkeeper took possession of the ball. He then went to take a free-kick thinking it was a foul. He made an error.''

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp vented his anger at referee Clattenburg, claiming the official had failed to spot a handball by Nani, which led to Gomes believing Spurs had won a free-kick.

"It was handball. He put his hand on the ball and dragged it down,'' Redknapp said. "He should have been booked. The referee didn't see him handball it, that's why he's allowed play to go on. The assistant referee has seen it, that's why he's flagged.

"He's (Clattenburg) gone over and he's told him what he did, he should disallow the goal. He's handled the ball. If he's handled the ball he should be booked and it's a free-kick. So Gomes put the ball down for a free-kick.

"If you look at (Darren) Fletcher he's called Nani to get back into position because he thinks we're going to counter attack from the free-kick. Gomes puts the ball down to take a free-kick. It's obvious. Why would he stand there and leave the ball there after he saw him handball it?''

Redknapp said his side may have been able to claim a point if the goal had been disallowed, despite the fact they had already trailed to Nemanja Vidic's first-half header.

"You never know, the game lasts 90 minutes,'' Redknapp said. You dont know, we're one down we may get another opportunity to score. You don't know.''

Fletcher offered a third viewpoint - from on the pitch - saying that the referee had failed to whistle for a foul. As a result he said Nani was left with no option but to tap the ball into the unguarded net.

"The referee never blew. I don't know whether the goalkeeper thought the referee had seen a foul for simulation, but he never blew his whistle,'' he said. "The goalie puts it down and then Nani puts the ball in the net.

"It's one of those where nobody really knows what's happened, but Nani has no option other than to put the ball in the net. He's got the opportunity to score - he's got to score. We are always told to play to the whistle.''


More and more y'all manager is showing his true colors. No way that was a PK. Nani chased the ball and when he realize he cannot get it threw himself to the floor. Instead of being diplomatic about the cheat goal, he blaming player. Less than Classy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 02:24:10 PM
Nani's controversial strike ended matters, with the officials judging play to be active when Gomes placed the ball down in his area after an unsuccessful penalty appeal.

Gomes clearly believed he was lining up a dead ball but the Portuguese winger was the only one on the referee's wavelength and rolled the ball in to tee up furious scenes of protest by the visitors.


Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3283269,00.html

Thank you. got to love the Chelsea fans here eh.

edit: Somebody tell Gomes please play to the f**king whistle, damn goat

Since we don't get pity goals we have real time on we hand. Plus that above does nothing to put to rest that The call was ver poor.

how the call was poor? the ref aint blow he whistle play was still going on. The only person who fault the goal was, is the keeper, doh blame the ref.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
"You can look at the referee and look at the linesmen and blame them, but the goalkeeper should know better. He's an experienced goalkeeper. I thought he made a mess of it. I thought it was a penalty first of all and I think Nani felt he handled the ball. But the referee didn't blow for it.

ill highlight that, if the referee didn't blow for it, why Gomes put the ball on the ground for free kick? u cah blame the ref for that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 02:27:35 PM
MAN UTD 2-0 TOTTENHAM
Ferguson: Gomes to blame for bizarre Nani goal
October 30, 2010
Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=837573&sec=england&cc=5901)



Sir Alex Ferguson believes Tottenham goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes was to blame for Manchester United's controversial second goal in their 2-0 win over Tottenham, claiming the Brazilian "should have known better''.

Nani poked home the goal after 84 minutes after Gomes had placed the ball down, seemingly thinking his side had been awarded a free-kick in his area.

Nani, who had appealed for a penalty moments earlier, then swooped to score and, after referee Mark Clattenburg consulted with his assistant, the goal was awarded to spark furious protests from the Tottenham players.

"It was bizarre," Ferguson told ESPN. "No-one knew at the time what was wrong. One minute the goalkeeper had the ball in his hands and next it's in his net. Nani looked back and looked at the referee and the referee said play on, so what can he do but put the ball in the net.[/b]

"You can look at the referee and look at the linesmen and blame them, but the goalkeeper should know better. He's an experienced goalkeeper. I thought he made a mess of it. I thought it was a penalty first of all and I think Nani felt he handled the ball. But the referee didn't blow for it.



"The referee played on because the goalkeeper took possession of the ball. He then went to take a free-kick thinking it was a foul. He made an error.''

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp vented his anger at referee Clattenburg, claiming the official had failed to spot a handball by Nani, which led to Gomes believing Spurs had won a free-kick.

"It was handball. He put his hand on the ball and dragged it down,'' Redknapp said. "He should have been booked. The referee didn't see him handball it, that's why he's allowed play to go on. The assistant referee has seen it, that's why he's flagged.

"He's (Clattenburg) gone over and he's told him what he did, he should disallow the goal. He's handled the ball. If he's handled the ball he should be booked and it's a free-kick. So Gomes put the ball down for a free-kick.

"If you look at (Darren) Fletcher he's called Nani to get back into position because he thinks we're going to counter attack from the free-kick. Gomes puts the ball down to take a free-kick. It's obvious. Why would he stand there and leave the ball there after he saw him handball it?''

Redknapp said his side may have been able to claim a point if the goal had been disallowed, despite the fact they had already trailed to Nemanja Vidic's first-half header.

"You never know, the game lasts 90 minutes,'' Redknapp said. You dont know, we're one down we may get another opportunity to score. You don't know.''

Fletcher offered a third viewpoint - from on the pitch - saying that the referee had failed to whistle for a foul. As a result he said Nani was left with no option but to tap the ball into the unguarded net.

"The referee never blew. I don't know whether the goalkeeper thought the referee had seen a foul for simulation, but he never blew his whistle,'' he said. "The goalie puts it down and then Nani puts the ball in the net.

"It's one of those where nobody really knows what's happened, but Nani has no option other than to put the ball in the net. He's got the opportunity to score - he's got to score. We are always told to play to the whistle.''



More and more y'all manager is showing his true colors. No way that was a PK. Nani chased the ball and when he realize he cannot get it threw himself to the floor. Instead of being diplomatic about the cheat goal, he blaming player. Less than Classy.

Read the bold parts Elan....

PLAY TO A WHISTLE

GOALASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Chelsea rent boys scared boy.. 5 points ahead and they still quaking.... We coming to set Stamford Bridge on Fire in December...on fire

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 02:31:19 PM
MAN UTD 2-0 TOTTENHAM
Ferguson: Gomes to blame for bizarre Nani goal
October 30, 2010
Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=837573&sec=england&cc=5901)



Sir Alex Ferguson believes Tottenham goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes was to blame for Manchester United's controversial second goal in their 2-0 win over Tottenham, claiming the Brazilian "should have known better''.

Nani poked home the goal after 84 minutes after Gomes had placed the ball down, seemingly thinking his side had been awarded a free-kick in his area.

Nani, who had appealed for a penalty moments earlier, then swooped to score and, after referee Mark Clattenburg consulted with his assistant, the goal was awarded to spark furious protests from the Tottenham players.

"It was bizarre," Ferguson told ESPN. "No-one knew at the time what was wrong. One minute the goalkeeper had the ball in his hands and next it's in his net. Nani looked back and looked at the referee and the referee said play on, so what can he do but put the ball in the net.[/b]

"You can look at the referee and look at the linesmen and blame them, but the goalkeeper should know better. He's an experienced goalkeeper. I thought he made a mess of it. I thought it was a penalty first of all and I think Nani felt he handled the ball. But the referee didn't blow for it.



"The referee played on because the goalkeeper took possession of the ball. He then went to take a free-kick thinking it was a foul. He made an error.''

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp vented his anger at referee Clattenburg, claiming the official had failed to spot a handball by Nani, which led to Gomes believing Spurs had won a free-kick.

"It was handball. He put his hand on the ball and dragged it down,'' Redknapp said. "He should have been booked. The referee didn't see him handball it, that's why he's allowed play to go on. The assistant referee has seen it, that's why he's flagged.

"He's (Clattenburg) gone over and he's told him what he did, he should disallow the goal. He's handled the ball. If he's handled the ball he should be booked and it's a free-kick. So Gomes put the ball down for a free-kick.

"If you look at (Darren) Fletcher he's called Nani to get back into position because he thinks we're going to counter attack from the free-kick. Gomes puts the ball down to take a free-kick. It's obvious. Why would he stand there and leave the ball there after he saw him handball it?''

Redknapp said his side may have been able to claim a point if the goal had been disallowed, despite the fact they had already trailed to Nemanja Vidic's first-half header.

"You never know, the game lasts 90 minutes,'' Redknapp said. You dont know, we're one down we may get another opportunity to score. You don't know.''

Fletcher offered a third viewpoint - from on the pitch - saying that the referee had failed to whistle for a foul. As a result he said Nani was left with no option but to tap the ball into the unguarded net.

"The referee never blew. I don't know whether the goalkeeper thought the referee had seen a foul for simulation, but he never blew his whistle,'' he said. "The goalie puts it down and then Nani puts the ball in the net.

"It's one of those where nobody really knows what's happened, but Nani has no option other than to put the ball in the net. He's got the opportunity to score - he's got to score. We are always told to play to the whistle.''



More and more y'all manager is showing his true colors. No way that was a PK. Nani chased the ball and when he realize he cannot get it threw himself to the floor. Instead of being diplomatic about the cheat goal, he blaming player. Less than Classy.

Read the bold parts Elan....

PLAY TO A WHISTLE

GOALASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Chelsea rent boys scared boy.. 5 points ahead and they still quaking.... We coming to set Stamford Bridge on Fire in December...on fire



Scared of what? Who? Y'all could set Stamford Bridge on Fire all you want. Catch us if you can.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 02:33:56 PM
Doe worry about us..we coming no matter what... and we gonna burn the Bridge to the ground

Dont slip up at Anfield next Sunday...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on October 30, 2010, 04:48:58 PM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 30, 2010, 05:04:24 PM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

Good thing Vidic is the captain  ;)  ;D

An Arsenal fan who hates United more than Spurs... good to see such loyal true fans  ::)  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 30, 2010, 05:09:42 PM

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over


i see that eh but i say lemme eh bring that up. Rio was basically IN the discussion between the officials.

i could understand the play if the officials missed the hand-ball and the play was active and it went down the way it did.....

But... The linesman raised his flag to call for the blatant hand-ball. Nani didn't just hands the ball, he was holding the ball and Gomes had to take it away from his grip to restart the play, all of this which the linesman saw. The referee should have blown for the hands after the linesman consulted with him to indicate what he saw, but instead decided to overrule the linesman.

The prawn sandwich eaters on here don't like to see it presented to them but guaranteed if it was Wolves or West Brom that goal was getting whistled off.

I not beating around the bush, I will go on record to say that Manchester United and Real Madrid are consistently the biggest beneficiaries of questionable calls in football. I challenged anyone to prove otherwise.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 30, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 30, 2010, 06:14:45 PM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.

not to mention the linesman raised his flag after the spurs players braced him.

DId the ref give an explanation as yet? maybe he was playing the advantage and allowed gomes to pick up the ball run a number of yards away from where the handball occurred thinking that he will dump it, or drop it and kick it to his player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 30, 2010, 06:16:33 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.

u conveniently forgot to mention the penalty that we didnt get. or yeah....u is a chelsea fan and does only see with one eye......- the shit continues.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 30, 2010, 06:23:41 PM
what i still cah get over is the keeper put the ball down for a free kick and the referee aint blow he whistle  :rotfl: , that had me laughing dread.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 30, 2010, 06:28:27 PM
Doe worry about us..we coming no matter what... and we gonna burn the Bridge to the ground

Dont slip up at Anfield next Sunday...

lol...the only teams I worry about at the Bridge are City, Everton and Spurs. United will get blowout dis year, dey are worse than last year. I jus vex the game isnt until December 19th since I will be in Trinidad for xmas by then.

United's only world class attacking player is Rooney (I rate Nani very highly, probably more so than United fans, but he is yet to produce consistently). And we all know Rooney head eh right at the moment. Last year at Stamford Bridge I found it sad that United had to put out a team wid a 5 man defensive-minded midfield....and den rating up Darren Fletcher's performance for his hard tackling or some sh!t like that....a club of United's pedigree rating up a mediocre hatchet man as their best performer...sad. Community shield gave yall a false sense of security, Stamford Bridge is a different matter entirely and this season will be no better for yall.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 30, 2010, 06:31:33 PM
Doe worry about us..we coming no matter what... and we gonna burn the Bridge to the ground

Dont slip up at Anfield next Sunday...

lol...the only teams I worry about at the Bridge are City, Everton and Spurs. United will get blowout dis year, dey are worse than last year. I jus vex the game isnt until December 19th since I will be in Trinidad for xmas by then.

United's only world class attacking player is Rooney (I rate Nani very highly, probably more so than United fans, but he is yet to produce consistently). And we all know Rooney head eh right at the moment. Last year at Stamford Bridge I found it sad that United had to put out a team wid a 5 man defensive-minded midfield....and den rating up Darren Fletcher's performance for his hard tackling or some sh!t like that....a club of United's pedigree rating up a mediocre hatchet man as their best performer...sad. Community shield gave yall a false sense of security, Stamford Bridge is a different matter entirely and this season will be no better for yall.

wait i now remember, didnt yall beat us and took the table lead with a offside goal from drogba earlier on this year?

where the chelsea fans who say the refs does favor utd?
- the shit continues.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 30, 2010, 08:30:59 PM
Nani should not have handled and Gomes should not have put the ball down, but all that could have been corrected had the referee listened to the linesman.
That linesman is a real bobolee to have the ref disrespectin him so.  He shoulda hit Clattenberg a slap fuh dat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 30, 2010, 11:27:55 PM
De shit, de shit, de shit!!!  :banginghead: :frustrated:

Nani gone down hoping for a penalty kick and grab the ball with his hands. Gomes place the ball for a free kick, Nani run around him and score.

The linesman raise his flag and call him over to explain that it was a free kick and the goal should not stand.

Ref overrule the linesman (oh.. we're at Old Trafford). Goal.

The shit continues.

u conveniently forgot to mention the penalty that we didnt get. or yeah....u is a chelsea fan and does only see with one eye......- the shit continues.

What no penalty call you all keep on about. Nani was chasing the bal for at least 2 steps before deciding to play goalie himself.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2010, 01:35:36 AM
Doe worry about us..we coming no matter what... and we gonna burn the Bridge to the ground

Dont slip up at Anfield next Sunday...

lol...the only teams I worry about at the Bridge are City, Everton and Spurs. United will get blowout dis year, dey are worse than last year. I jus vex the game isnt until December 19th since I will be in Trinidad for xmas by then.

United's only world class attacking player is Rooney (I rate Nani very highly, probably more so than United fans, but he is yet to produce consistently). And we all know Rooney head eh right at the moment. Last year at Stamford Bridge I found it sad that United had to put out a team wid a 5 man defensive-minded midfield....and den rating up Darren Fletcher's performance for his hard tackling or some sh!t like that....a club of United's pedigree rating up a mediocre hatchet man as their best performer...sad. Community shield gave yall a false sense of security, Stamford Bridge is a different matter entirely and this season will be no better for yall.

wait i now remember, didnt yall beat us and took the table lead with a offside goal from drogba earlier on this year?

where the chelsea fans who say the refs does favor utd?
- the shit continues.....

yup, we won 2-1 wid a drogba offside goal. funny how United fans remember that, but not the fact that Macheda's goal was handball  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2010, 04:30:23 AM
Doe worry about us..we coming no matter what... and we gonna burn the Bridge to the ground

Dont slip up at Anfield next Sunday...

lol...the only teams I worry about at the Bridge are City, Everton and Spurs. United will get blowout dis year, dey are worse than last year. I jus vex the game isnt until December 19th since I will be in Trinidad for xmas by then.

United's only world class attacking player is Rooney (I rate Nani very highly, probably more so than United fans, but he is yet to produce consistently). And we all know Rooney head eh right at the moment. Last year at Stamford Bridge I found it sad that United had to put out a team wid a 5 man defensive-minded midfield....and den rating up Darren Fletcher's performance for his hard tackling or some sh!t like that....a club of United's pedigree rating up a mediocre hatchet man as their best performer...sad. Community shield gave yall a false sense of security, Stamford Bridge is a different matter entirely and this season will be no better for yall.

wait i now remember, didnt yall beat us and took the table lead with a offside goal from drogba earlier on this year?

where the chelsea fans who say the refs does favor utd?
- the shit continues.....

yup, we won 2-1 wid a drogba offside goal. funny how United fans remember that, but not the fact that Macheda's goal was handball  ;D

They also forget the penalty that wasn't given when gary neville abused Anelka in the box.  They also forget the nasty foul that ferdinand committed against Anelka that went unpunished......sometimes I think manu does really pay off these officials oui!  The shit DOES continue.....for manu. STEUPS!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on October 31, 2010, 05:27:50 AM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.

not to mention the linesman raised his flag after the spurs players braced him.

DId the ref give an explanation as yet? maybe he was playing the advantage and allowed gomes to pick up the ball run a number of yards away from where the handball occurred thinking that he will dump it, or drop it and kick it to his player.

The ref hasn't given an explanation but the footage has been shown.  When Gomes puts it down the ref gestures / moves as to say "What the hell you doing", Nani obviously seen it aswell as he was walking back, so he put the ball into the net.  The ref was just playing on (as he tends to try to do most matches tbf) as Gomes had the ball and there was no need to blow for a foul, he was probably just thinking it was better for Spuds if Gomes could kick it from his hands.  At the end, Gomes can be clearly heard having a go at him for the handball and he just simply says he never whistled and he should play to the whistle. 

My thoughts a lot of teh balme has to be put at Gomes's door, if I hadn't seen the footage of the ref acting like he did I would probably be blaming him aswell tbh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2010, 05:52:55 AM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.

not to mention the linesman raised his flag after the spurs players braced him.

DId the ref give an explanation as yet? maybe he was playing the advantage and allowed gomes to pick up the ball run a number of yards away from where the handball occurred thinking that he will dump it, or drop it and kick it to his player.

The ref hasn't given an explanation but the footage has been shown.  When Gomes puts it down the ref gestures / moves as to say "What the hell you doing", Nani obviously seen it aswell as he was walking back, so he put the ball into the net.  The ref was just playing on (as he tends to try to do most matches tbf) as Gomes had the ball and there was no need to blow for a foul, he was probably just thinking it was better for Spuds if Gomes could kick it from his hands.  At the end, Gomes can be clearly heard having a go at him for the handball and he just simply says he never whistled and he should play to the whistle. 

My thoughts a lot of teh balme has to be put at Gomes's door, if I hadn't seen the footage of the ref acting like he did I would probably be blaming him aswell tbh.
Couldn't agree with you more.  I am a Gomes fan but he did nonsense in this case.  The issue of rio harassing the officials seems to be about him having (or seeming to have) a go at the linesman after the ref held conference with the linesman and awarded the goal.  To me, there was no need for that at that point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2010, 06:46:34 AM
Ferguson rules out January signings

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gcuYwDTnLB7x5Gktk74SnTxIuhWA?docId=N0075511288512088020A

Sir Alex Ferguson has ruled out making any new signings in the January transfer window.

The Manchester United boss saw his side beat Tottenham 2-0 in the Barclays Premier League on Saturday to sit five points behind leaders Chelsea.

And he claimed there was no need to bring any new players to Old Trafford in over the winter, telling the Independent: "We won't be buying in January, definitely not."

He added: "If you want someone to play in Europe, you are limited right away. There are hundreds of players cup-tied.

"You have five months left of the season, I will have Antonio Valencia back hopefully towards the end of February, which is a new player coming back. If Michael Owen gets back, it is another new player coming back. So with the squad I've got, I don't see any reason for us to buy anyone."

Ferguson also revealed Wayne Rooney is not set to return from his ankle injury for another five weeks.

"I think Wayne Rooney will be out for another five weeks," he added in the Sunday Express.

"He'll have to pick up his fitness again. I would think five weeks should be about right."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 31, 2010, 08:50:22 AM

My thoughts a lot of teh balme has to be put at Gomes's door, if I hadn't seen the footage of the ref acting like he did I would probably be blaming him aswell tbh.

Why would the ref be questioning Gomes' actions in the scenario you paint?  I didn't see the footage you cite but chances are you are misinterpreting his actions.  Gomes has the option once he picks up the ball to boot it, throw it or put it back down and play it to a team mate.  Even if what you state is correct and he didn't blow, he has a duty to consult with the assistant on fouls which he may have missed.  He missed Nani's foul... just like the ref in 2006 initially missed Zidane's foul on Materrazzi.  All of this rationalization after the fact and putting the blame "at Gomes' door" is just a convenient way to cover up for the fact that the ref f**ked things up royally. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 31, 2010, 09:01:45 AM
Not only should it have been a free kick for Spurs, Nani should also have been given a yellow card for deliberate handball.

Any Man U supporters in here disagree with the call as yet?  No becuz allyuh is a setta classless whores.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 01, 2010, 07:15:14 AM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.

firstly i am not nitpicking, you play to a whistle and thats final!

what i am saying disgust me most is rio being allowed to talk at the ref n lino while the two are talking it over

fact mere seconds after he shoos away the spurs players he allows a manu player (senior one too) to speak at both of them, with out once gesturing rio away bad image, very bad, no consistency in his officiating

number one thing a reff must do is uphold the SPIRIT of the game

saying it again so you understand

it was a long comedy of errors that i pointed out but highlighted to worst part that was ignored
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 01, 2010, 08:22:07 AM
let me say

as farcical as it was the goal stands simply because the reff did not blow his whistle the ball was live
(the reff, FA and FIFA will hide behind that)

sorry spurs fans its as much a kick in the face as that mendez goal

lesson to all footballers

PLAY TO THE WHISTLE!!


still think the officals in this day and age suck ass
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 01, 2010, 09:00:45 AM
This from Alan Wiley even in his steadfast defence of Clattenburg...

Tottenham were also unhappy that while their players were waved away by Clattenburg as he spoke to his assistant about the incident at Old Trafford, United defender Rio Ferdinand was not.

And while Wiley conceded that Clattenburg should have also sent Ferdinand away, he did not believe the England skipper's presence had any impact on the decision.

"If you watch it again, although Rio Ferdinand is having a say, if you watch the actual conversations between the referee and the assistant, they almost blanked Rio Ferdinand out," Wiley added.

"I suppose in hindsight if Mark looks at that again he would have probably moved Ferdinand away as well."


BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/9145368.stm)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 01, 2010, 09:28:31 AM
I really doh like to comment on ManUre matters eh, buh da was some real bullshit.  I don't blame Nani for anything he did because most other players seeking a call does grab de ball on their way down or while on the ground.  Buh de ref cah explain away how he could be allowing play to continue when Gomes had to retrieve the ball from Nani's HANDS.  How in de world ref could allow play on is beyond retarded.  Take allyuh win oui, because allyuh need it bad to at least stay close.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on November 01, 2010, 09:54:12 AM
So wait.
If de ref intended to tief for Man Utd.....


Den why not give the penalty and done?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 01, 2010, 10:16:19 AM
So wait.
If de ref intended to tief for Man Utd.....


Den why not give the penalty and done?


Because Nani did not get foul. Show me where he did? The shirt tug? plz
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 01, 2010, 10:19:40 AM
I really doh like to comment on ManUre matters eh, buh da was some real bullshit.  I don't blame Nani for anything he did because most other players seeking a call does grab de ball on their way down or while on the ground.  Buh de ref cah explain away how he could be allowing play to continue when Gomes had to retrieve the ball from Nani's HANDS.  How in de world ref could allow play on is beyond retarded.  Take allyuh win oui, because allyuh need it bad to at least stay close.

d ball was not not in NANI hand when he take it. Plus u assuming the referee see NANI hand the ball?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on November 01, 2010, 10:27:11 AM
I really doh like to comment on ManUre matters eh, buh da was some real bullshit.  I don't blame Nani for anything he did because most other players seeking a call does grab de ball on their way down or while on the ground.  Buh de ref cah explain away how he could be allowing play to continue when Gomes had to retrieve the ball from Nani's HANDS.  How in de world ref could allow play on is beyond retarded.  Take allyuh win oui, because allyuh need it bad to at least stay close.

d ball was not not in NANI hand when he take it. Plus u assuming the referee see NANI hand the ball?

chelsea for champions ;D ;D ;D :angel: :angel: :devil: :devil: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on November 01, 2010, 10:28:07 AM
So wait.
If de ref intended to tief for Man Utd.....


Den why not give the penalty and done?


Because Nani did not get foul. Show me where he did? The shirt tug? plz

You missing the point entirely. It had shirt pulling. Nani embelish it. But...if the goal is to "favor United" den.....i think it woulda be FAR simpler to give de penalty for that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 01, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
So wait.
If de ref intended to tief for Man Utd.....


Den why not give the penalty and done?


He forget. That is why Rio did run over, to remind him. :devil:
Check the scene:

Nani: Oh Gawd! Ah Dead!
Ref: Dat man have dropsy...
Gomes: Hand Ball! Free kick! let me put this ball down
Nani: Puts out hands... Ref, like yuh forget?
Ref: Shrugs... Do yuh ting
Gomes: buhwhademudder!
Ref: Runs over to linesman. Why you raise the blasted flag?
Linesman: Sorry boss, ah was hailing out a breds in the stands
Rio: Allyuh eh know me or wha? I is Santana!
Ref: Cool dat nah man! and yuh get ah goal?
Rio: Allyuh just get lucky
Ref: Steups... tweet!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TRUwarrior on November 01, 2010, 10:44:24 AM
So wait.
If de ref intended to tief for Man Utd.....


Den why not give the penalty and done?


He forget. That is why Rio did run over, to remind him. :devil:
Check the scene:

Nani: Oh Gawd! Ah Dead!
Ref: Dat man have dropsy...
Gomes: Hand Ball! Free kick! let me put this ball down
Nani: Puts out hands... Ref, like yuh forget?
Ref: Shrugs... Do yuh ting
Gomes: buhwhademudder!
Ref: Runs over to linesman. Why you raise the blasted flag?
Linesman: Sorry boss, ah was hailing out a breds in the stands
Rio: Allyuh eh know me or wha? I is Santana!
Ref: Cool dat nah man! and yuh get ah goal?
Rio: Allyuh just get lucky
Ref: Steups... tweet!



LOL :rotfl: yuh eh see when he bawl out "ANNNYYYWWWAAAAAAAAAYYY!!! LOL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 01, 2010, 11:48:38 AM
firstly i am not nitpicking, you play to a whistle and thats final!

what i am saying disgust me most is rio being allowed to talk at the ref n lino while the two are talking it over

fact mere seconds after he shoos away the spurs players he allows a manu player (senior one too) to speak at both of them, with out once gesturing rio away bad image, very bad, no consistency in his officiating

number one thing a reff must do is uphold the SPIRIT of the game

saying it again so you understand

it was a long comedy of errors that i pointed out but highlighted to worst part that was ignored


You are correct with one thing... having viewed the vid again.  Rio was indeed talking to both of them as Clattenburg conferred with the linesman.  I know you find this egregious "especially since Rio's a senior player", but I don't see what the "bad image" talk is all about.  In fact, BECAUSE Rio is a senior player, it makes perfect sense for the ref to allow him more leeway.  I will agree with you that he should have afforded the same to Tottenham, maybe to the Captain or something, or to send away all players.  But to say this was unbecoming or an affront to the image of the game, I don't see that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 01, 2010, 01:02:27 PM
just gotta say
the most disgusting part of that episode was

not the foul on nani and no whistle

not the fact nani handled the ball no whistle

not the fact gomes placed the ball ten yards further than where nani handled it

not the fact everyone but nani thought it was a dead ball situation

not the fact the ref never looked at his linesman at all and said play on

not the fact that spurs players swarmed the reff like flies on shit

but the fact that rio the manu captain was allowed to harangue the officials while they were talking it over

horrible especially in light that the goal was then allowed

a long comedy of errors but certainly does not bode well that manu captian can hold court with officals during controversy at old trafford

sickening

This is nitpicking at nonsense. 

The foul wasn't clear cut

The ref may have been shielded from seeing the handball

The ball not being properly spotted happens all the time... was 5 yds off at best.

Clearly Nani wasn't the only one who thought it WAS NOT a dead ball situation... or else the ref would have blown his whistle. 

Even had the ref looked at the linesman, from the commentary, the linesman raised his flag well after the goal celebrations had begun. At some point he did see the flag and went over to discuss with the linesman.

The Spurs players were swarming the ref, as well as ManU players.  I wouldn't say that Rio "harangued" the ref... he had no reason to.  He was standing right there listening in, I didn't see him say or do anything... let alone anything out of the ordinary.  The ref indulged the complaints for a long time, maybe too long.  To say Rio was allowed to "hold court" with the officials is plain misleading.

firstly i am not nitpicking, you play to a whistle and thats final!

what i am saying disgust me most is rio being allowed to talk at the ref n lino while the two are talking it over

fact mere seconds after he shoos away the spurs players he allows a manu player (senior one too) to speak at both of them, with out once gesturing rio away bad image, very bad, no consistency in his officiating

number one thing a reff must do is uphold the SPIRIT of the game

saying it again so you understand

it was a long comedy of errors that i pointed out but highlighted to worst part that was ignored


So u eh see that the linesman raised his flag only after the spurs players ran across to him and ruff him up?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on November 01, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
I not beating around the bush, I will go on record to say that Manchester United and Real Madrid are consistently the biggest beneficiaries of questionable calls in football. I challenged anyone to prove otherwise.

I would add Juventus to that list.  But many peeps on here doh watch Italian ball
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 01, 2010, 02:45:27 PM
palos is only the young'uns don't appreciate Serie A.
The Juve-Inter game in 1997-1998 in particular is the one that stood out for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_Serie_A
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on November 01, 2010, 04:35:58 PM
(http://www.studs-up.com/comics/2010-11-01.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on November 02, 2010, 11:45:20 AM
^^^^^^^^^^
that is hilarious!

love that site!

spursmosexual and "what do you mean you people?"  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :rotfl: :devil: :devil: :beermug: :rotfl: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on November 02, 2010, 08:20:13 PM
As a Man U fan myself, I would agree that Nani's handball would usually be called quickly by most refs. Didn't look like he was attempting to continue playing the ball from the ground after he took his hand on it, so if the initial call wasn't made for a penalty or a handball, I see no reason to call it after Gomes picked up the ball. Why the hell would he pick up the ball, not hear a whistle, and decide to place it for a freekick almost 10 yds from where Nani was? I saw the clip Kev is talking about and it looks like the ref was trying to let everyone see he was trying to let them play on. The linesman raising his flag should have only caused Nani to get a yellow card at the next stoppage of play, which was after he scored, if the linesman saw it as intentional handball intended to gain an unfair advantage. Looked like he didn't want to be distracted from his dialogue with the linesman when Rio was standing there. Don't think either of them were paying Rio any attention, but I agree he should also have been waved away.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on November 02, 2010, 08:54:42 PM
I not beating around the bush, I will go on record to say that Manchester United and Real Madrid are consistently the biggest beneficiaries of questionable calls in football. I challenged anyone to prove otherwise.

I would add Juventus to that list.  But many peeps on here doh watch Italian ball

Messi does score ball with his hand, Chelsea couldn't buy a penalty call in the CL semi against Barca, and today Victor Valdes hit a man a frankomen 6 peg brave star in he face, man was laid out flat with a concussion for minutes and lo and behold the free kick was awarded to Barca....

Big sides get the calls... simple. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on November 02, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
I not beating around the bush, I will go on record to say that Manchester United and Real Madrid are consistently the biggest beneficiaries of questionable calls in football. I challenged anyone to prove otherwise.

I would add Juventus to that list.  But many peeps on here doh watch Italian ball

Messi does score ball with his hand, Chelsea couldn't buy a penalty call in the CL semi against Barca, and today Victor Valdes hit a man a frankomen 6 peg brave star in he face, man was laid out flat with a concussion for minutes and lo and behold the free kick was awarded to Barca....

Big sides get the calls... simple. 

So you sayin Chelsea is not a big side?  ;D

1) The ref never blew his whistle and never indicated anything but play on - Gomes was at fault.

2) If Gomes thought it was a free kick - why did he walk 10 yards away from the action and drop the ball as if there was no infraction?

3) Nani had no choice but to score in that situation - just as any fan of any team would have wanted their player to do.

Gomes may be a solid goalkeeper - but a deep thinker he is not.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on November 03, 2010, 07:31:41 AM
So you sayin Chelsea is not a big side?  ;D

Against Barca, I guess not lol

Point was really that it's not just Madrid and Man U getting the calls... They are most noted because they are the evil empires in football for whatever reason.  Romanticized teams like Barca and Brazil getting referee favors all the time, but they not as notorious for it because of their charming reputation. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jai john on November 03, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
So you sayin Chelsea is not a big side?  ;D

 ;D

Against Barca, I guess not lol
Wicked
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 04, 2010, 08:07:54 AM
So you sayin Chelsea is not a big side?  ;D

Against Barca, I guess not lol

Point was really that it's not just Madrid and Man U getting the calls... They are most noted because they are the evil empires in football for whatever reason.  Romanticized teams like Barca and Brazil getting referee favors all the time, but they not as notorious for it because of their charming reputation. 

This is not true kicker, tell me when yuh does see Chelsea or Arsenal in England benefit from the kinda loud controversial calls that Man U does. Admittedly I not seeing as much La Liga football as before, but the kinda calls Real Madrid used to get up to a couple years ago were absurd. I see Raul get penalty kicks late in games where he looked confused for a second what the whistle blow for.

I not talking about no marginal offside goal or a foul in the build up run of the mill type call. I talking about the 7 minutes ghost extra time, the ghost penalty kicks and the frankoment shit calls like that Nani incident that does cause real furore in the press.

And just to clarify i'm talking about ref calls in domestic leagues, Champions League is a different kettle of fish dont get me started on that.

If you really think that year after year is just coincidence I have a prime lot of iceberg to sell you in Matelot.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on November 04, 2010, 08:29:47 AM
Ok ok...I hear what you're saying

I not saying iz mere coincidence.  I started by saying that in any given game, the bigger side is more likely to get the rub of the green from the ref. 

And I think a phantom call for Madrid makes a bigger impression than a phantom call for Barca because of their reputations in the game, and I see nuff times Barca get ref favors but yuh doh hear the same outcry as when Madrid get the same thing. 

I have to admit that Man U at Old Trafford appear to really get their way when they need it...   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 05, 2010, 03:45:46 PM
FC United (the Man U breakaway team who play in the 7th tier of English football) just beat Rochdale (League 1) 3-2 in the first round of the FA Cup...they were 2-0 up until Rochdale came back, but United scored in the last minute of injury time...pitch invasion for every goal, lol. bess match  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 05, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
FC United (the Man U breakaway team who play in the 7th tier of English football) just beat Rochdale (League 1) 3-2 in the first round of the FA Cup...they were 2-0 up until Rochdale came back, but United scored in the last minute of injury time...pitch invasion for every goal, lol. bess match  :beermug:

What that bastard child news doing here?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 05, 2010, 03:53:06 PM
FC United (the Man U breakaway team who play in the 7th tier of English football) just beat Rochdale (League 1) 3-2 in the first round of the FA Cup...they were 2-0 up until Rochdale came back, but United scored in the last minute of injury time...pitch invasion for every goal, lol. bess match  :beermug:

What that bastard child news doing here?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 06, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
Hargreaves injured again
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 06, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
Fergie and his coaches f^ckin up by not playing bebe on the left so he can be comfortable using his left foot to cross. Especially since obertan is a natural right footer. Dey killin the boy confidence by playing him on the right and him strugglin tuh get a cross in.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 06, 2010, 10:49:12 AM
:nailbiting:
                           
                         :nailbiting:



                                            :nailbiting:

                                                         :nailbiting:

                                                                                                     :rotfl:
                                                         

                                                               
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on November 06, 2010, 10:50:38 AM
JI SUNG PARK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! 2-1 UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 06, 2010, 10:51:59 AM
UTD UTD  :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: Glory glory :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on November 06, 2010, 10:52:56 AM
bitches geh way
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 06, 2010, 10:53:32 AM
Devils don't give up  :devil: play to the end always
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 11:01:25 AM
Wolves is a shit team... properly deserved to lose for their poor strategy, and failure to capitalize on opportunities.  Mancienned served up Fletcher on a platter on the edge of the box and he panicked and skied the shot into the stands.  Meanwhile McCarthy had them sit back (apparently content with a 1-1 tie) and absorb wave after wave of attack.  Cap it off with poor keeping on that goal by Hahnemann... caught flat-footed on a near-post shot.  Credit to Park for taking his chances.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 06, 2010, 11:03:59 AM
Ebanks-Blake is a lazy bastard. Wolves beat themselves. Can keep giving the ball back. To look up and see 4 minutes added on time is a heart breaker too.   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 06, 2010, 11:07:08 AM
We like shit... never could do it simple

f**king hell... that was madness
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 06, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
Owen Hargreaves limped off just five minutes into his first start in more than two years with an apparent hamstring injury.

Why is he still at Man.U? we paid all this money for a broken player, who seems to be injury prone. Bayern made the best move selling him to us and gaining something from it. What have he done for us?.....NOTHING  since we bought him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 06, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
Owen Hargreaves limped off just five minutes into his first start in more than two years with an apparent hamstring injury.

Why is he still at Man.U? we paid all this money for a broken player, who seems to be injury prone. Bayern made the best move selling him to us and gaining something from it. What have he done for us?.....NOTHING  since we bought him.

Be f**king serious

You dont throw away an entire life because he's banged up a little

At United we care and believe in our players...it's what makes the Club great.

And yes its frustrating for the fans but dont you think Owen Hargreaves may be a little more frustrated than you or the fans?

And we bought him in 2007..we got a full season out of him which resulted in an EPL and Champion's League double act... remember the 120 minutes and the pen he scored in the CL Final after being epic throughout?  what about the fantastic free kick against Arsenal to win it 2-1... or the tireless lung bursting efforts he put in throughout a long successful season?

Is it Owen's or United's fault his knees completely gave out after a serious leg break caused extreme tendinitis?

I'm sorry If I'm taking this out on you but this is more of a backlash to all United fans that unfairly criticize the man... he has bigger guts than any of us...and today I felt it for him.. I cant imagine going through the euphoria of being back then getting it ripped from you 5 minutes in...

It is our job to remain positive for Hargo as fans... we all have to believe in him... not throw him away or tell him to f**k off with his problems...

Remember who you support... one family, fans and players... always Believe 

He will be back

OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
YOU ARE THE LOVE OF MY LIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I'LL LET YOU SHAG MY WIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I WANT CURLY HAIR TOOOO





Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 06, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Owen Hargreaves limped off just five minutes into his first start in more than two years with an apparent hamstring injury.

Why is he still at Man.U? we paid all this money for a broken player, who seems to be injury prone. Bayern made the best move selling him to us and gaining something from it. What have he done for us?.....NOTHING  since we bought him.

Be f**king serious

You dont throw away an entire life because he's banged up a little

At United we care and believe in our players...it's what makes the Club great.

And yes its frustrating for the fans but dont you think Owen Hargreaves may be a little more frustrated than you or the fans?

And we bought him in 2007..we got a full season out of him which resulted in an EPL and Champion's League double act... remember the 120 minutes and the pen he scored in the CL Final after being epic throughout?  what about the fantastic free kick against Arsenal to win it 2-1... or the tireless lung bursting efforts he put in throughout a long successful season?

Is it Owen's or United's fault his knees completely gave out after a serious leg break caused extreme tendinitis?

I'm sorry If I'm taking this out on you but this is more of a backlash to all United fans that unfairly criticize the man... he has bigger guts than any of us...and today I felt it for him.. I cant imagine going through the euphoria of being back then getting it ripped from you 5 minutes in...

It is our job to remain positive for Hargo as fans... we all have to believe in him... not throw him away or tell him to f**k off with his problems...

Remember who you support... one family, fans and players... always Believe 

He will be back

OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
YOU ARE THE LOVE OF MY LIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I'LL LET YOU SHAG MY WIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I WANT CURLY HAIR TOOOO






I understand what you're saying. I just don't understand why he would even be in the starting 11, after he just recover from his injury. To be honest, I think the only reason he is around still, is because of the money we paid for him, and we need him to start playing agian, so we can make something back from him. I wish he could come back and make me eat my words, but I can't see him being the same player he was before the injury. He has been out for a very long time.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 06, 2010, 09:24:21 PM
Be f**king serious

You dont throw away an entire life because he's banged up a little

At United we care and believe in our players...it's what makes the Club great.

And yes its frustrating for the fans but dont you think Owen Hargreaves may be a little more frustrated than you or the fans?

And we bought him in 2007..we got a full season out of him which resulted in an EPL and Champion's League double act... remember the 120 minutes and the pen he scored in the CL Final after being epic throughout?  what about the fantastic free kick against Arsenal to win it 2-1... or the tireless lung bursting efforts he put in throughout a long successful season?

Is it Owen's or United's fault his knees completely gave out after a serious leg break caused extreme tendinitis?

I'm sorry If I'm taking this out on you but this is more of a backlash to all United fans that unfairly criticize the man... he has bigger guts than any of us...and today I felt it for him.. I cant imagine going through the euphoria of being back then getting it ripped from you 5 minutes in...

It is our job to remain positive for Hargo as fans... we all have to believe in him... not throw him away or tell him to f**k off with his problems...

Remember who you support... one family, fans and players... always Believe 

He will be back

OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
YOU ARE THE LOVE OF MY LIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I'LL LET YOU SHAG MY WIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I WANT CURLY HAIR TOOOO








^^^ Definition of "extra".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 07, 2010, 07:55:53 AM
Owen Hargreaves limped off just five minutes into his first start in more than two years with an apparent hamstring injury.

Why is he still at Man.U? we paid all this money for a broken player, who seems to be injury prone. Bayern made the best move selling him to us and gaining something from it. What have he done for us?.....NOTHING  since we bought him.

Be f**king serious

You dont throw away an entire life because he's banged up a little

At United we care and believe in our players...it's what makes the Club great.

And yes its frustrating for the fans but dont you think Owen Hargreaves may be a little more frustrated than you or the fans?

And we bought him in 2007..we got a full season out of him which resulted in an EPL and Champion's League double act... remember the 120 minutes and the pen he scored in the CL Final after being epic throughout?  what about the fantastic free kick against Arsenal to win it 2-1... or the tireless lung bursting efforts he put in throughout a long successful season?

Is it Owen's or United's fault his knees completely gave out after a serious leg break caused extreme tendinitis?

I'm sorry If I'm taking this out on you but this is more of a backlash to all United fans that unfairly criticize the man... he has bigger guts than any of us...and today I felt it for him.. I cant imagine going through the euphoria of being back then getting it ripped from you 5 minutes in...

It is our job to remain positive for Hargo as fans... we all have to believe in him... not throw him away or tell him to f**k off with his problems...

Remember who you support... one family, fans and players... always Believe 

He will be back

OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
YOU ARE THE LOVE OF MY LIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I'LL LET YOU SHAG MY WIFE
OHHH OWEN HARGREAVES
I WANT CURLY HAIR TOOOO






I understand what you're saying. I just don't understand why he would even be in the starting 11, after he just recover from his injury. To be honest, I think the only reason he is around still, is because of the money we paid for him, and we need him to start playing agian, so we can make something back from him. I wish he could come back and make me eat my words, but I can't see him being the same player he was before the injury. He has been out for a very long time.




I think the reason Fergie has not given up him because he knows what he brings to the table when he is healthy. He is the best midfielder when healthy that United have. Plus i agree with Small mag even thought he was healthy just for one season he contribution to United's season when we won the league and CL was worth getting him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 07, 2010, 08:47:43 AM
I didnt see the highlights but I know from our match against Wolves the other day that they are a decent side. Not surprised it was a tough match
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dwn on November 08, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
Interesting article on Rooney.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/4713c328-e1e2-11df-b18d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz14kOezPrJ
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on November 09, 2010, 08:51:53 AM
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to manage Molde after leaving Manchester United

Good luck to 20LEGEND. I follow reserve team football, and he has done an amazing job. Look out for a few great talents coming through. Some are filtering in like DeLaet, but look out for Josh King, Magnus Ekriem (especially), Nicky Ajose etc. No coincidence that the reserves are full of Norwegian talent. Rumours are that Red Nev will take over the reserves. Ole goes to cut his managerial teeth and who knows in the future...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/09/ole-gunnar-sloskjaer-manchester-united/print

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been named as the manager of Molde, severing a 14-year tie with Manchester United. Solskjaer was unveiled by the Norwegian club today after deciding to quit as United's reserve team manager.

The 37-year-old's spell at Old Trafford will probably best be remembered for his injury-time winner in the 1999 Champions League final against Bayern Munich. It was one of 126 goals in 366 appearances for United, his £1.5m original move from Molde in 1996 going down as arguably one of the shrewdest pieces of business in Sir Alex Ferguson's time as manager.

Although the player's career was eventually ended by a persistent knee injury in 2007, Ferguson had long-since identified Solskjaer as management material and offered him the chance of becoming reserve team manager as part of a coaching shake-up that saw the Norwegian work alongside Warren Joyce.

However, with his three young children, Noah, Karna and Elijah all growing up, Solskjaer has now decided to join his old club, leaving with Ferguson's blessing. "Ole has had a good period with our reserve team, which has given him a foundation to start somewhere else," he said. "He feels it is time he went back to Norway, which also helps his family situation. He has been a fantastic servant to us and I am sure he will do well.

"He has worked with some really good young players in our reserve team and has contributed to their development. Once he gets experience of managing a club in its own right, who knows where it will take him? Molde is a very progressive club in Norwegian football, so this is a good start for him."

Solskjaer replaces the former Manchester City striker Uwe Rösler at Molde, who finished 11th in the Norwegian top flight last season. He will take up his duties in January ahead of a campaign that begins in March, with Ferguson believing the move will work to United's benefit too. Solskjaer has already identified the talent of Mame Biram Diouf, who is enjoying a positive first season in the Premier League with Blackburn after joining on loan from United after his move from Molde.

"We have a good contact base in Norway now," said Ferguson. "It is difficult to say what Ole will do long-term but he has made a conscious decision regarding his family, which worked out well with the fact that Molde were looking for a coach."

It has been suggested that Gary Neville, who has made only three appearances so far this season and has suffered a succession of muscular problems in recent years, is being lined up as a replacement. However, Ferguson insists there are no plans in place. "I have no idea who takes over the reserves," he said. "We will just leave it at the moment."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 09, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Great servant... will be missed...he'll be back one day

Please dont take my Solskajer awayyyyy (8)

Bring back Carlos Quieroz and put Phelan with the reserves...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 10, 2010, 12:49:20 PM
C'mon Tevez... Show this shit side the almighty power of bad mind!! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 10, 2010, 01:03:40 PM
C'mon Tevez... Show this shit side the almighty power of bad mind!! :devil:

always studying United... I'll buy a red Berba for Christmas... you could wear it at home when you obsess about us

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 10, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
C'mon Tevez... Show this shit side the almighty power of bad mind!! :devil:

always studying United... I'll buy a red Berba for Christmas... you could wear it at home when you obsess about us



Buy it...

And i want it with the EPL patches too, my dog been asking me for a new kit long time now.  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2010, 01:57:18 PM
GLORY GLORY  :flamethrower:

Live links

http://www.atdhe.net/27978/watch-manchester-city-vs-manchester-united

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=93725&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 10, 2010, 02:28:46 PM
Manchester guaranteed to drop points.
Who want to put 5 on dat?

Scholes already hot in de tackle.  5th yellow card of the season the commentator say.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 10, 2010, 03:54:52 PM
Yaya Toure roast since the middle of the 2nd half and Mancini have him on the field still.
Also, City have no idea what to do when they get forward. Too short for the crosses, too slow for the quick counter. too many defenders back to go through the middle.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
LOL @ City. defend whole game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 03:59:07 PM
Yaya Toure roast since the middle of the 2nd half and Mancini have him on the field still.
Also, City have no idea what to do when they get forward. Too short for the crosses, too slow for the quick counter. too many defenders back to go through the middle.

You can say the same thing for Man United. No ideas, no creativity. You can say Man City played defensive, but they had so much time to get back and set up their defense because Man United coming forward though it was quick had no purpose to the attack. A lot of non directional passing. Out wide, back in, forward, back out wide, lose the ball.



Yaya Toure was Scholes fadder. Man United had 3 players having a go at Yaya, he had a right to be tired at the end.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
LOL @ City. defend whole game

I know you all coming to say that, but that's not entirely true. You all had no ideas in the final 4th of the field. How many shot on target did you all have. How many won crosses, how many final balls did you all have for all the posession and time you had on the ball. You all gave Man City a lot of time to organize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 10, 2010, 04:02:34 PM
City does set up like an Italian team playing in the EPL..

No tempo, a crowded middle and no urgency to their play. They have real heavy men in that line up like Yaya, Boateng, Kolo, Kompany who cannot spring that attack or move the ball quickly enough. Tevez and Johnson is the only men that could take ah run at dem...

City always look like they trying not to lose rather than trying to win. It can work though, in league play you hadda build your side from the back and come forward.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 04:09:53 PM
Stats


Match Stats 

Manchester City                                     Manchester United 
9(2)                        Shots (on Goal)              10(3) 
11                           Fouls                            12 
8                             Corner Kicks                   5 
0                             Offsides                         1 
47%                         Time of Possession           53% 
0                             Yellow Cards                   2 
0                              Red Cards                      0 
3                              Saves                           2


Don't always listen to the commentators. How dominant was either team? Argue with this.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: College on November 10, 2010, 04:37:04 PM
Pretty even game IMO.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 10, 2010, 05:20:49 PM
Stats


Match Stats 

Manchester City                                     Manchester United 
9(2)                        Shots (on Goal)              10(3) 
11                           Fouls                            12 
8                             Corner Kicks                   5 
0                             Offsides                         1 
47%                         Time of Possession           53% 
0                             Yellow Cards                   2 
0                              Red Cards                      0 
3                              Saves                           2


Don't always listen to the commentators. How dominant was either team? Argue with this.
Don't you have a Chelski team to go talk about?... Did you even know that they won today? It was a nice header from Essien, and he got a red card later on in the game. I just thought you night want to know, considering how obsessed you are with Man.U.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 10, 2010, 05:31:05 PM
Stats


Match Stats 

Manchester City                                     Manchester United 
9(2)                        Shots (on Goal)              10(3) 
11                           Fouls                            12 
8                             Corner Kicks                   5 
0                             Offsides                         1 
47%                         Time of Possession           53% 
0                             Yellow Cards                   2 
0                              Red Cards                      0 
3                              Saves                           2


Don't always listen to the commentators. How dominant was either team? Argue with this.
Don't you have a Chelski team to go talk about?... Did you even know that they won today? It was a nice header from Essien, and he got a red card later on in the game. I just thought you night want to know, considering how obsessed you are with Man.U.

let them continue... Such diehards they are... always on about us... sick sick "fans"

only stat they need to remember
18> 4  and 3> 0
(if they are real fans they would know what that represents)
f**k off rent boys
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 10, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
Stats


Match Stats 

Manchester City                                     Manchester United 
9(2)                        Shots (on Goal)              10(3) 
11                           Fouls                            12 
8                             Corner Kicks                   5 
0                             Offsides                         1 
47%                         Time of Possession           53% 
0                             Yellow Cards                   2 
0                              Red Cards                      0 
3                              Saves                           2


Don't always listen to the commentators. How dominant was either team? Argue with this.
Don't you have a Chelski team to go talk about?... Did you even know that they won today? It was a nice header from Essien, and he got a red card later on in the game. I just thought you night want to know, considering how obsessed you are with Man.U.

let them continue... Such diehards they are... always on about us... sick sick "fans"

only stat they need to remember
18> 4  and 3> 0
(if they are real fans they would know what that represents)
f**k off rent boys

Bitter are we   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on November 10, 2010, 09:29:53 PM
Utd played like the home team - City defended well - the game ended 0-0. Plain and simple.

Utd tried to win the game; City tried not lose. To spend that much money on players, be at Eastlands, have the opportunity to leapfrog Utd and make a statement - then play like that - in a word, sad.

Expensive set up, big dreams - small team mentality. Bringing on a 40 million dollar striker in the last 30 seconds to waste time just said it all. In them kinda moves that does destroy individual and team morale yes.

Mancini eh d man for dis team - nor has he ever been.

Would been interestin to see how this game would have turned out had Utd been at full strength all over the park, but a point ain't a bad result, considerin Chelsea lost there not too long ago.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on November 13, 2010, 07:15:57 AM

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaKrkdrUXcM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 13, 2010, 08:06:41 AM
C'mon Tevez... Show this shit side the almighty power of bad mind!! :devil:

always studying United... I'll buy a red Berba for Christmas... you could wear it at home when you obsess about us



Buy it...

And i want it with the EPL patches too, my dog been asking me for a new kit long time now.  ;)

You really doh like yuh dog.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 13, 2010, 08:16:51 AM
Villa just hit crossbar and then post in about 3 mins.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 08:23:12 AM
Holy f**king shit! ...................
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 13, 2010, 08:24:22 AM
2-0! hahahahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on November 13, 2010, 08:26:03 AM
Holy f**king shit! ...................

how yuh cud use holy and f*** in d same line dan...i feel u from moruga..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 08:26:48 AM
Holy f**king shit! ...................

how yuh cud use holy and f*** in d same line dan...i feel u from moruga..

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 08:27:57 AM
2-1, come on reds!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 13, 2010, 08:30:03 AM
Villa and Man U bottom musbe quiverin.  2-1 with 10 mins to play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 08:32:17 AM
2-2 get in!!!!!. come on
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on November 13, 2010, 08:32:55 AM
steupes..bitches gehin away
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 13, 2010, 08:34:13 AM
I eh go lie, Man U's two goals were beauties.  Vidic finish like Drogba.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 13, 2010, 08:41:37 AM
steups... why this shit side dont just.... DIE!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 08:43:49 AM
Play till the end!  ;D alyuh men doh know we a what?   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 13, 2010, 08:51:23 AM
Dead and Buried... oops.. Dont right us off

We were proper shit for 80 minutes... I'll take the point considering the way we got it

We need to improve drastically... we need Wazza and Giggsy back... the world class talent department lacking

Great fightback though... one thing we do is never give up


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 13, 2010, 08:51:49 AM
Stats


Match Stats 

Manchester City                                     Manchester United 
9(2)                        Shots (on Goal)              10(3) 
11                           Fouls                            12 
8                             Corner Kicks                   5 
0                             Offsides                         1 
47%                         Time of Possession           53% 
0                             Yellow Cards                   2 
0                              Red Cards                      0 
3                              Saves                           2


Don't always listen to the commentators. How dominant was either team? Argue with this.
Don't you have a Chelski team to go talk about?... Did you even know that they won today? It was a nice header from Essien, and he got a red card later on in the game. I just thought you night want to know, considering how obsessed you are with Man.U.

let them continue... Such diehards they are... always on about us... sick sick "fans"

only stat they need to remember
18> 4  and 3> 0
(if they are real fans they would know what that represents)
f**k off rent boys


...we go stop posting on allyuh thread because like it only bringin' allyuh bad luck by the way of poor form and dropped points.  Allyuh could come and post on we thread, though, even when we lose because like it keepin' we on top.   ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 13, 2010, 08:55:07 AM
vidic striking better than berba now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on November 13, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
Watch Meh the Ref was Biased and ManU get away again...

So Ashley young get a yellow for celebrating...

How come Vidic ent get one when he do the same ting?

Why cause he was on a yellow before, and he woulda hadda get send off, and the ref ent go do that to ManU in the last 5 min of a game they on the backfoot.

Doh talk for Wes Brown....dat was a red.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 13, 2010, 08:59:43 AM
Watch Meh the Ref was Biased and ManU get away again...

So Ashley young get a yellow for celebrating...

How come Vidic ent get one when he do the same ting?

Why cause he was on a yellow before, and he woulda hadda get send off, and the ref ent go do that to ManU in the last 5 min of a game they on the backfoot.

Doh talk for Wes Brown....dat was a red.


which ref would send of someone because of celebrating taking into consideration the context of the game?
Young was gonna get bat if brown didnt foul him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 13, 2010, 09:00:26 AM
Alyuh really come back with blaming the ref again stueps. Alyuh like a repeating decimal. Every game is the same thing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 13, 2010, 09:06:48 AM
Watch Meh the Ref was Biased and ManU get away again...

So Ashley young get a yellow for celebrating...

How come Vidic ent get one when he do the same ting?

Why cause he was on a yellow before, and he woulda hadda get send off, and the ref ent go do that to ManU in the last 5 min of a game they on the backfoot.

Doh talk for Wes Brown....dat was a red.


what yellow before bossman?

he didnt get a card... Nani, Chicharito and Brown got yellows.... and Livescore have Vidic on a yellow in the 90th(he scored in the 85th)...maybe Dean booked him afterall?

And Brown and Rio were in line..a Ball coming in square... he was not racing onto a ball and Brown brought him down as a last man

but he should have gotten a red for being an absolute shithong... he was so much shit today.. O'Shea is better than him


What about at least the 5 blatant push on United's defenders whenever Villa has a set piece? how come Dean didnt blow for that in your conspiracy theory?




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 13, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
Brown, Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra, VDS, Berba, Roonay need tuh buss it after this season, dey seriously hit dey expiration date and beyond. Callin Steve Bruce! Fabio and  Evra need tuh start splittin time. Berbatov so refined and dainty he geh sub and sittin on the bench legs crossed like he a damn tea party waitin on a cup of tea! Carrick works my last nerve with how passive he is and always tryin tuh pass the ball in the damn net! Anything we win this season will be a blessin oui!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 13, 2010, 10:13:39 AM
Watch Meh the Ref was Biased and ManU get away again...

So Ashley young get a yellow for celebrating...

How come Vidic ent get one when he do the same ting?

Why cause he was on a yellow before, and he woulda hadda get send off, and the ref ent go do that to ManU in the last 5 min of a game they on the backfoot.

Doh talk for Wes Brown....dat was a red.


what yellow before bossman?

he didnt get a card... Nani, Chicharito and Brown got yellows.... and Livescore have Vidic on a yellow in the 90th(he scored in the 85th)...maybe Dean booked him afterall?

And Brown and Rio were in line..a Ball coming in square... he was not racing onto a ball and Brown brought him down as a last man

but he should have gotten a red for being an absolute shithong... he was so much shit today.. O'Shea is better than him


What about at least the 5 blatant push on United's defenders whenever Villa has a set piece? how come Dean didnt blow for that in your conspiracy theory?

Vidic was booked after the Villa penalty for dissent (Sky Sports showed the replay). The 4th official said the ref purposefully didnt book Vidic for celebrating cuz the momentum of his teammates pushed him into the crowd  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 13, 2010, 11:06:31 AM
Watch Meh the Ref was Biased and ManU get away again...

So Ashley young get a yellow for celebrating...

How come Vidic ent get one when he do the same ting?

Why cause he was on a yellow before, and he woulda hadda get send off, and the ref ent go do that to ManU in the last 5 min of a game they on the backfoot.

Doh talk for Wes Brown....dat was a red.


what yellow before bossman?

he didnt get a card... Nani, Chicharito and Brown got yellows.... and Livescore have Vidic on a yellow in the 90th(he scored in the 85th)...maybe Dean booked him afterall?

And Brown and Rio were in line..a Ball coming in square... he was not racing onto a ball and Brown brought him down as a last man

but he should have gotten a red for being an absolute shithong... he was so much shit today.. O'Shea is better than him


What about at least the 5 blatant push on United's defenders whenever Villa has a set piece? how come Dean didnt blow for that in your conspiracy theory?

Vidic was booked after the Villa penalty for dissent (Sky Sports showed the replay). The 4th official said the ref purposefully didnt book Vidic for celebrating cuz the momentum of his teammates pushed him into the crowd  ::)

well myself and Livescore missed that one... didnt see him get a card after the penalty

and for the bolded part... a new chant for the ABU's thats being sung around Manchester

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANT
BECAUSE WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANT

 :beermug:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on November 13, 2010, 08:29:52 PM
The momentum of his teammates pushed him into the crowd.... :o ::) :devil:

Yuh does really hear and see it all in a ManU game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 16, 2010, 01:37:13 PM
Man Utd owners set to repay loans
By David Bond
BBC sports editor
 
Manchester United's American owners plan to reduce the financial pressure on the club by paying off high-interest loans, estimated to be worth £220m.

The loans were taken out with three US hedge funds to help finance the Glazer family's £790m takeover in 2005.

The BBC understands that Joel Glazer, the club's joint chairman, has written to the lenders to inform them the loans will be paid in full on 22 November.

The football club's total debts are estimated at more than £720m.

It is not yet clear how the Glazer family were able to raise the money to pay off the PIK (payment in kind) loans but significantly it is not with funds from the club.

The Glazers are most likely to have borrowed money from other financial institutions at more affordable rates to refinance the PIKs.

A spokesman for the Glazer family declined to comment.

The PIK loans were significantly reduced as part of a refinancing package in 2006 but since then have been accruing interest at extremely punitive rates.

Earlier this year, the rate rose to 16.25%, with supporters long since suspecting that money from the club would eventually be used to start paying them off, although the Glazers are liable for the debt.

As part of a £526m bond refinancing in January, the Glazers were given the freedom to take up to £70m from the club's revenues to pay down the PIKs.

But it seems they have not taken this option.

By notifying the lenders they intend to pay the loans off in full next Monday, the Glazers will reduce the financial pressure on the club.

The club's parent company, Red Football Limited, on Tuesday published financial results for the three months to 30 September that reveal turnover increased from £57.7m to £63.3m in comparison to the same three months in 2009.

The main reason for that is a rise in commercial revenue to £24.2m, up over 25%. It was also revealed that United's gross debt had fallen from £514.7m to £509.4m.

Last month, United announced a £79.6m pre tax loss for the last financial year, mainly due to one off interest and debt charges, but despite that, the club generated revenues of £278m and have more than £100m of cash reserves.

United had no debts before the Glazers, who also own American Football side the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, took control in 2005.

Their ownership of United has provoked much criticism and resulted in the setting up of breakaway fans' club, FC United of Manchester, as well as the Green and Gold protest movement.

Many fans are continuing to boycott the team's traditional red shirts and scarves, choosing to wear green and gold, the original colours of Newton Heath, the amateur side which was founded in 1878 and went on to become Manchester United.

A mass protest was held outside Old Trafford before the final game of the 2009/2010 campaign and further demonstrations have taken place this season.

United have won three consecutive Premier League titles (2007-09), one Champions League trophy (2008), one Club World Cup (2008), three Football League Cups (2006, 09 and 10) and three FA Community Shield trophies (2007, 08 and 10) in the Glazer era.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9192771.stm

Published: 2010/11/16 09:05:15 GMT

© BBC MMX
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on November 16, 2010, 02:41:18 PM
Interesting move by the Glazers. I have been saying for a while that their financial structure is reckless, not just bad for the club but bad for themselves because the ridiculously high interest just eats into any future profit they will make, if they plan to sell. if they plan to own the club long term the interest is even worse becaue it prevents them from ever paying off the principal on other loans.

Hopefully this is a sign of them being sensible and a precursor of them selling part or all of the stadium or the training ground
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Position    Team    P    GD    PTS

1    Chelsea        14    19    28
2    Man Utd        14    13    28
3    Arsenal        14    13    26
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 20, 2010, 11:42:07 AM
wow......its refreshing not seeing any chelsea scum here....

.i doh expect to see dem for a while.....  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 20, 2010, 11:43:42 AM
9 men and allyuh shit side could only give dem 2? lol   :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on November 20, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
9 men and allyuh shit side could only give dem 2? lol   :devil: :devil: :devil:
is allright...we goh take de 3 points!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 20, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
wow......its refreshing not seeing any chelsea scum here....

.i doh expect to see dem for a while.....  :devil:


   ;D Expectations is a helluva ting.....watch yuh go see we circlin' like cobo soon enough.  Allyuh guaranteed to give we reason.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 20, 2010, 02:33:55 PM
I love the prem ... never dull

Elan,Dinho..keep obessessing... while you studying time added on, tackles, cards, penalties I'll have you know we have put ourself back on top... in 2nd gear

you go guys.. keep beating West Brom 6-0 and thinking thats the title wrapped up

The race has just been blown wide open... and you know we have 3 gears to go...be afraid...I warned yall a month ago..

I cant wait to burn the bridge down... all the rent boys will see is Red... keep our trophy warm and safe please

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 21, 2010, 12:02:03 PM
Two good headers but Chicharron's was a beauty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 21, 2010, 12:43:12 PM
I love the prem ... never dull

Elan,Dinho..keep obessessing... while you studying time added on, tackles, cards, penalties I'll have you know we have put ourself back on top... in 2nd gear

you go guys.. keep beating West Brom 6-0 and thinking thats the title wrapped up

The race has just been blown wide open... and you know we have 3 gears to go...be afraid...I warned yall a month ago..

I cant wait to burn the bridge down... all the rent boys will see is Red... keep our trophy warm and safe please




Look at alyuh papa.....come out like is carnival Tuesday in town.   Galavant alyuh self man, geh on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 21, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
I love the prem ... never dull

Elan,Dinho..keep obessessing... while you studying time added on, tackles, cards, penalties I'll have you know we have put ourself back on top... in 2nd gear

you go guys.. keep beating West Brom 6-0 and thinking thats the title wrapped up

The race has just been blown wide open... and you know we have 3 gears to go...be afraid...I warned yall a month ago..

I cant wait to burn the bridge down... all the rent boys will see is Red... keep our trophy warm and safe please




Look at alyuh papa.....come out like is carnival Tuesday in town.   Galavant alyuh self man, geh on.
:devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 09:51:25 AM
3-0 HT..Berba 2 Park 1

Wazza playing real good...Berba and Rooney rell linking up.. we real sharp today

Berba now get bring down in the box..clear pen.. no call.... against Rangers he get clattered from behind in the box..no call.... Diouf now went 2 footed into Evra..yellow

and today Wilshere blatantly hands the ball..Arsenal went down the road and score

but we get the calls right?

Maybe because allyuh f**king obsessive c**ts only watching United games and not seeing the own shit in allyuh games
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 27, 2010, 09:53:29 AM
dread my net giving trouble, i only see the first goal stueps.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 27, 2010, 09:53:58 AM
Anderson looking rell good, he seems to be playing in a more attacking and creative role. I hope he can keep it up for the whole match. It would be a boost for the side if he finally starts to fulfill his potential and gives the side another option in midfield. I also want him to stay at United. Berbatov and Rooney annoyin me how dey not passing the ball tuh Nani dat is why I hope Nani score before Rooney or Berbatov gets a hattrick.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 27, 2010, 10:13:19 AM
I guess Berbatov wise up and he must have taken his meds before this game cause all of asudden he has life!. Nani is officially my favorite young United player. I know he can be frutrating sometimes but I will take him over any other winger in the EPL. That left foot of his is becoming just as good as his right!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 27, 2010, 10:47:04 AM
7-1 , 88min  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 27, 2010, 10:54:38 AM
blackburn was chosen to be the unlucky team to make up the goal difference  :whip: :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on November 27, 2010, 11:04:30 AM
one sound cut a$$ pass dey.  ManU 4 everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 11:18:51 AM
gears shifting... went from 2nd..to 3rd and 4th against Rangers...started at 4th today ended in 5...

beautiful stuff..... keep it up

Check this.... Berbatov started the season with Rooney and scored 6 goals when they started...Wazza gets injured and everything develops and Berba scores none and looks poor.... Rooney return with Berbs against Rangers and both were sharp... and today..5 in allyuh ass

Rooney was class today.. he was all over the place...still some rust but he was all about the team today.. he was satisfied with linking than scoring today and would have scored if the penalty had been given or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

If Rooney can stay fit and Berba plays with that appetite and with Scholes, Nani and Giggs doing their thing with Anderson, Fletch, Carrick, Park, Obertan offering their best and our back 4 and keeper stay fit we have a very realistic chance of winning some trophies

Keep it up United....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 27, 2010, 11:42:15 AM
gears shifting... went from 2nd..to 3rd and 4th against Rangers...started at 4th today ended in 5...

beautiful stuff..... keep it up

Check this.... Berbatov started the season with Rooney and scored 6 goals when they started...Wazza gets injured and everything develops and Berba scores none and looks poor.... Rooney return with Berbs against Rangers and both were sharp... and today..5 in allyuh ass

Rooney was class today.. he was all over the place...still some rust but he was all about the team today.. he was satisfied with linking than scoring today and would have scored if the penalty had been given or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

If Rooney can stay fit and Berba plays with that appetite and with Scholes, Nani and Giggs doing their thing with Anderson, Fletch, Carrick, Park, Obertan offering their best and our back 4 and keeper stay fit we have a very realistic chance of winning some trophies

Keep it up United....


I know rooney is yuh player but callin Nani selfish for not passin tuh him? What do you call Rooney and Berbatov when dey were passin the ball back and forth between each other  sometimes forcin the pass while ignorin the run of Nani? I gld he didn't pass tuh him. who the f*ck in Rooney?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 11:51:45 AM
gears shifting... went from 2nd..to 3rd and 4th against Rangers...started at 4th today ended in 5...

beautiful stuff..... keep it up

Check this.... Berbatov started the season with Rooney and scored 6 goals when they started...Wazza gets injured and everything develops and Berba scores none and looks poor.... Rooney return with Berbs against Rangers and both were sharp... and today..5 in allyuh ass

Rooney was class today.. he was all over the place...still some rust but he was all about the team today.. he was satisfied with linking than scoring today and would have scored if the penalty had been given or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

If Rooney can stay fit and Berba plays with that appetite and with Scholes, Nani and Giggs doing their thing with Anderson, Fletch, Carrick, Park, Obertan offering their best and our back 4 and keeper stay fit we have a very realistic chance of winning some trophies

Keep it up United....


I know rooney is yuh player but callin Nani selfish for not passin tuh him? What do you call Rooney and Berbatov when dey were passin the ball back and forth between each other  sometimes forcin the pass while ignorin the run of Nani? I gld he didn't pass tuh him. who the f*ck in Rooney?

listen girly...

If you are truly a United fan you will understand the Rooney situation is over..he's a red... he said what he said..he got a contract.. he apologised and he's been great on his comeback

but to sit here and compare the Nani situation vs Rooney not playing the ball wide to Nani is ridiculous

Nani was bombing towards goal with a man on him...Rooney free..square the ball and goal..but nope he continued on and f**ked it up... I havent heard 1 other fan complain about the selfishness from Rooney today but you... everyone has completely applauded his lack of selfishness today and he did everything right...

United..that's they key word

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
Nani was setting the table fuh whoever was in the middle all day.  It just so happens that Berbatov, through anticipation and positioning benefitted the most from Nani's industry today.  To call Nani selfish... and to call him that on account of one questionable play at that, is kinda ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 27, 2010, 12:10:10 PM
gears shifting... went from 2nd..to 3rd and 4th against Rangers...started at 4th today ended in 5...

beautiful stuff..... keep it up

Check this.... Berbatov started the season with Rooney and scored 6 goals when they started...Wazza gets injured and everything develops and Berba scores none and looks poor.... Rooney return with Berbs against Rangers and both were sharp... and today..5 in allyuh ass

Rooney was class today.. he was all over the place...still some rust but he was all about the team today.. he was satisfied with linking than scoring today and would have scored if the penalty had been given or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

If Rooney can stay fit and Berba plays with that appetite and with Scholes, Nani and Giggs doing their thing with Anderson, Fletch, Carrick, Park, Obertan offering their best and our back 4 and keeper stay fit we have a very realistic chance of winning some trophies

Keep it up United....


I know rooney is yuh player but callin Nani selfish for not passin tuh him? What do you call Rooney and Berbatov when dey were passin the ball back and forth between each other  sometimes forcin the pass while ignorin the run of Nani? I gld he didn't pass tuh him. who the f*ck in Rooney?

listen girly...

If you are truly a United fan you will understand the Rooney situation is over..he's a red... he said what he said..he got a contract.. he apologised and he's been great on his comeback

but to sit here and compare the Nani situation vs Rooney not playing the ball wide to Nani is ridiculous

Nani was bombing towards goal with a man on him...Rooney free..square the ball and goal..but nope he continued on and f**ked it up... I havent heard 1 other fan complain about the selfishness from Rooney today but you... everyone has completely applauded his lack of selfishness today and he did everything right...

United..that's they key word



Listen little boy; I have been a United fan long before you were a twinkle in yuh father's eye so doy even go there. you are the type of fan who complains about the Glazers but linnin dey pocket by still buyin everything United becuase you are such a fan! I don't care if Rooney for  apologise his actions, which were selfish and he only signed after he got a substantial raise and gettin reassurances about the team. Talk about questioning yuh teamates. For the money he getting he should be dribbling through the sides like messi who he not half as good as, playing in defence and makin saves. I may support my side but i don't drink the kool aid or wave the pom poms just becuase I like a player. Yuh think Wazza would have been back if United had't given him the money or told him what he wanted tuh hear? I won't bust the lovely bubble you seen tuh be existin in.  As you were!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 12:14:17 PM
Nani was setting the table fuh whoever was in the middle all day.  It just so happens that Berbatov, through anticipation and positioning benefitted the most from Nani's industry today.  To call Nani selfish... and to call him that on account of one questionable play at that, is kinda ridiculous.

He was selfish in that moment and at other times frustrating... he did have a good game assisting one or 2 and doing some good stuff... but his decision making is a key area of discussion and he needs to do the right things If he calls himself one of the greatest players currently.... He's still young and heading in the right direction but plenty to learn

and read properly next time..I said he was selfish on that play... never slammed his overall performance...voyeur

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 12:16:03 PM
gears shifting... went from 2nd..to 3rd and 4th against Rangers...started at 4th today ended in 5...

beautiful stuff..... keep it up

Check this.... Berbatov started the season with Rooney and scored 6 goals when they started...Wazza gets injured and everything develops and Berba scores none and looks poor.... Rooney return with Berbs against Rangers and both were sharp... and today..5 in allyuh ass

Rooney was class today.. he was all over the place...still some rust but he was all about the team today.. he was satisfied with linking than scoring today and would have scored if the penalty had been given or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

If Rooney can stay fit and Berba plays with that appetite and with Scholes, Nani and Giggs doing their thing with Anderson, Fletch, Carrick, Park, Obertan offering their best and our back 4 and keeper stay fit we have a very realistic chance of winning some trophies

Keep it up United....


I know rooney is yuh player but callin Nani selfish for not passin tuh him? What do you call Rooney and Berbatov when dey were passin the ball back and forth between each other  sometimes forcin the pass while ignorin the run of Nani? I gld he didn't pass tuh him. who the f*ck in Rooney?

listen girly...

If you are truly a United fan you will understand the Rooney situation is over..he's a red... he said what he said..he got a contract.. he apologised and he's been great on his comeback

but to sit here and compare the Nani situation vs Rooney not playing the ball wide to Nani is ridiculous

Nani was bombing towards goal with a man on him...Rooney free..square the ball and goal..but nope he continued on and f**ked it up... I havent heard 1 other fan complain about the selfishness from Rooney today but you... everyone has completely applauded his lack of selfishness today and he did everything right...

United..that's they key word



Listen little boy; I have been a United fan long before you were a twinkle in yuh father's eye so doy even go there. I don't care if Rooney apologise his actions, which were selfish and he only signed after he got a substantial raise and gettin reassurances about the team. Talk about questioning yuh teamates. For the money he getting he should be dribbling through the sides like messi who he not half as good as, playing in defence and makin saves. I may support my side but i don't drink the kool aid or wave the pom poms just becuase I like a player. Yuh think Wazza would have been back if United had't given him the money or told him what he wanted tuh hear? I won't bust the lovely bubble you seen tuh be existin in.  As you were!

Ok so I'll just think of the past and slam him and never support him and hope others score before him because he isnt as good as he thinks

Thanks for the advice veteran united fan....

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 12:51:10 PM
Nani was setting the table fuh whoever was in the middle all day.  It just so happens that Berbatov, through anticipation and positioning benefitted the most from Nani's industry today.  To call Nani selfish... and to call him that on account of one questionable play at that, is kinda ridiculous.

He was selfish in that moment and at other times frustrating... he did have a good game assisting one or 2 and doing some good stuff... but his decision making is a key area of discussion and he needs to do the right things If he calls himself one of the greatest players currently.... He's still young and heading in the right direction but plenty to learn

and read properly next time..I said he was selfish on that play... never slammed his overall performance...voyeur


Little boy, I will turn the instruction on its head and re-direct you to pay attention to what was actually written.  I am tempted to say more but I recognize that you haven't matured much in the five or so years since your 17th birthday.  You also haven't had the benefit of a tertiary education, so clearly your level of understanding is somewhat compromised.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 27, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
Nani was setting the table fuh whoever was in the middle all day.  It just so happens that Berbatov, through anticipation and positioning benefitted the most from Nani's industry today.  To call Nani selfish... and to call him that on account of one questionable play at that, is kinda ridiculous.

He was selfish in that moment and at other times frustrating... he did have a good game assisting one or 2 and doing some good stuff... but his decision making is a key area of discussion and he needs to do the right things If he calls himself one of the greatest players currently.... He's still young and heading in the right direction but plenty to learn

and read properly next time..I said he was selfish on that play... never slammed his overall performance...voyeur


Little boy, I will turn the instruction on its head and re-direct you to pay attention to what was actually written.  I am tempted to say more but I recognize that you haven't matured much in the five or so years since your 17th birthday.  You also haven't had the benefit of a tertiary education, so clearly your level of understanding is somewhat compromised.

and your the mature one with cheap shots about someone not having the financial ability to go to school away?

I did Tertiary education here bossman...

and please tell me what I said wrong...

I wrote : or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

where in that did you read that I said Nani was poor all game... that clearly states a moment of selfishness whereas Giggsy 11 stated Rooney and Berbs were selfish all game...  maybe you should save your lectures for her

and dont be scared to tell me anything...Im 20.. say what you want..cuz you know I will not bite my tongue for you on a forum or face to face...

but I'd prefer to just keep things civilized and not be childlike because obviously I'm a bit more mature than you these days
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on November 27, 2010, 01:09:35 PM
Not sure if it was selfish or just dunce, but there was no need for an extra touch before the square ball to Rooney. Nani has plenty tools to break down defences, but his decision making needs to catch up to the speed he moves his feet at.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 27, 2010, 01:13:50 PM
and your the mature one with cheap shots about someone not having the financial ability to go to school away?

I did Tertiary education here bossman...

and please tell me what I said wrong...

I wrote : or if Nani had squared him (that was f**king selfish)

where in that did you read that I said Nani was poor all game... that clearly states a moment of selfishness whereas Giggsy 11 stated Rooney and Berbs were selfish all game...  maybe you should save your lectures for her

and dont be scared to tell me anything...Im 20.. say what you want..cuz you know I will not bite my tongue for you on a forum or face to face...

but I'd prefer to just keep things civilized and not be childlike because obviously I'm a bit more mature than you these days


Did they stop teaching Reading Comprehension at St. Mary's? 

Where did I say anything about your (or anyone's for that matter) finances?  That only further proves my point... as does your repeated insistence that I accused you of saying that Nani was "poor all game."  Any cheap shots you perceive are the product of your own overactive juvenile imagination... as is the fiction that you are more "civilized" and "more mature" than anyone on this forum.

Nani was the catalyst for United today as his repeated raids down the right side, and constant tormenting of Chimbonda is what created chance after chance for United.  I'd be surprised if he had more than two shots on goal all day, yet you criticize him for being "f**king selfish" on one play where his decision to shoot was at best proper, at worst reasonable.  I'd say more, but if past is prelude then I fully expect the substance of what I say o continue to be lost on you.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 28, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
another elan/dinho free week.....  :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on November 28, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
Haha we now win, top a the league an men arguin  ???

You'll eh easy yes haha.

Nice to see d passion; but you"ll takin it to d wrong level  :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 28, 2010, 12:31:50 PM
United vs Liverpool FA Cup

At Old Trafford... gonna be a cracker
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on November 29, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
Can I get a GUHHHHLOORAY... Can I get a GuHHHHHLOOOORAAAAAYYYY up in this place  :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on November 30, 2010, 02:09:07 PM
Steupsss...ManU always getting the benefit of the refs call...interesting it took them 2mins to change that decision  :-\

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on November 30, 2010, 03:02:37 PM
Wow! 3-0 so far vs West ham in the Carling Cup
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on November 30, 2010, 03:11:56 PM
You see that side that Fergie put out for this game?  I don't see why they even bothered turning up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 30, 2010, 03:12:58 PM
4 yes...like yall is de new Chelsea  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
4 yes...like yall is de new Chelsea  ;D

 :shameonyou: Chelsea did not leak 4 goals to no bottom of the table side.

They not that shitty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on November 30, 2010, 03:43:01 PM
Ah takin ah teef from Jah Gol  ;D FOUR!!!!!

(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2009/02/alg_tiger-woods.jpg)
 :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:


Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 30, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
You see that side that Fergie put out for this game?  I don't see why they even bothered turning up.


that is no excuse...when they put on that shirt they better prepare to die for it and apart from 2 (Smalling and Hernandez) everyone was not worthy of wearing the red tonight...

10 changes..most failed

O'Shea, Brown, Evans(especially), Fabio, Obertan, Macheda , Fletcher, Anderson, Bebe and Giggs were all terrible today

Kuzscak was left for dead by his defense... Hernandez had nothing to work with and Smalling wasnt that bad...

West Ham were real up for it... they deserved it...we were poor.... I really wanted the hat trick of cups... Arsenal fans must be jubilant...

btw I was thinking of this..

Avram Grant.. League cup final with Chelsea... CL Final with Chelsea.... FA Cup final with Pompey..now in the semis with West Ham....  he obviously has the mthod for taking mediocre teams to a cup final  ;D .. he's never won a final too.. maybe he can correct it this time

haha but all seriousness...that is some good stuff by the Horror House of Israel...I hope they go on to win it..anyone but Arsenal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on November 30, 2010, 04:41:15 PM
Fergie probably giving wenger a bligh for this cup - for goodness sake another season without silverware might spell his demise.

u know wenger staying leaves us with only one team to worry bout next year.

 :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 04:22:09 AM
Chilean miners welcomed to Manchester by Bobby Charlton

Former Manchester United and England international Sir Bobby Charlton has welcomed 26 of the 33 rescued Chilean miners to the UK.

The men were freed in October after two months trapped underground.
Sir Bobby, whose father was a miner in Northumberland, told the Chileans: "You took it in your stride and the whole world was very proud of you."
Omar Reygadas said they were delighted to be at Old Trafford and jokingly challenged United to a game.
The men will be guests of honour at Old Trafford for Manchester United's Premier League game against Arsenal on Monday night.
They will be given a tour of the ground and have a chance to meet the players before the match.
Mr Reygadas, a 56-year-old bulldozer operator, said: "It's an honour to be at Old Trafford. It's the theatre of dreams and we have only seen it on television.
"We are very glad and excited to watch the match against Arsenal tomorrow."
He joked: "We have got enough footballers to make a team and maybe play Manchester United."


The 26 miners, who include former professional footballer Franklin Lobos, were invited to the game by Sir Bobby, a director and ambassador for United.

He said: "In 1962 I played in the World Cup in Chile and we enjoyed it and I said that if any of them wanted to come back to Manchester they'd be welcome. I had heard some of them were United fans."
The trip is being paid for by Chilean wine producer Vina Concha y Toro, which is one of United's sponsors.
The 33 miners were trapped by a rock fall on 5 August at the San Jose gold and copper mine.
One by one, they were brought back to the surface in a capsule after spending two months underground.
Since then they have been invited to a number of events abroad and four of them visited Spain and watched a Real Madrid match.

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Die_Hard on December 13, 2010, 04:32:48 AM
Very kind gesture.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on December 13, 2010, 08:48:20 AM
How wonderful,

The Chileans will get to see the Nasri show later when we put a cutarse on them at home.

Hello all....I am a Manchester United hater, I despise this team, their coach, players, the refs who give them the phantom calls and the extra 10 minutes of time that will be afforded to this team if they are trailing in the 85th min.

Time to shut up Evra and the rest of them....Goal in dey pwefin.

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 13, 2010, 08:52:58 AM
How wonderful,

The Chileans will get to see the Nasri show later when we put a cutarse on them at home.

Hello all....I am a Manchester United hater, I despise this team, their coach, players, the refs who give them the phantom calls and the extra 10 minutes of time that will be afforded to this team if they are trailing in the 85th min.

Time to shut up Evra and the rest of them....Goal in dey pwefin.

 

Congratulations; it must be a wonderful thing ! :devil:  Hey if you can't join them hate them right?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 13, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
How wonderful,

The Chileans will get to see the Nasri show later when we put a cutarse on them at home.

Hello all....I am a Manchester United hater, I despise this team, their coach, players, the refs who give them the phantom calls and the extra 10 minutes of time that will be afforded to this team if they are trailing in the 85th min.

Time to shut up Evra and the rest of them....Goal in dey pwefin.

 

LOL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Change on December 13, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
ANY LIVE ONLINE LINKS FOR TODAY'S GAME VERSUS MAN U???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on December 13, 2010, 01:21:34 PM
How wonderful,

The Chileans will get to see the Nasri show later when we put a cutarse on them at home.

Hello all....I am a Manchester United hater, I despise this team, their coach, players, the refs who give them the phantom calls and the extra 10 minutes of time that will be afforded to this team if they are trailing in the 85th min.

Time to shut up Evra and the rest of them....Goal in dey pwefin.

 

Ent! Co-sign! Ditto!  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: SHOTTA on December 13, 2010, 01:32:33 PM
is any available for the man u v arsenal game dat starting in a few

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Trini Madness on December 13, 2010, 01:39:30 PM
try espn360.com
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 01:54:01 PM
have your pick

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=97229&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 13, 2010, 01:57:34 PM
ANY LIVE ONLINE LINKS FOR TODAY'S GAME VERSUS MAN U???

extra

http://www.atdhe.net/30638/watch-manchester-united-vs-arsenal

http://www.atdhe.net/30661/watch-manchester-united-vs-arsenal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 04:35:51 PM
 :applause:

nice victory.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on December 13, 2010, 05:04:46 PM
How wonderful,

The Chileans will get to see the Nasri show later when we put a cutarse on them at home.

Hello all....I am a Manchester United hater, I despise this team, their coach, players, the refs who give them the phantom calls and the extra 10 minutes of time that will be afforded to this team if they are trailing in the 85th min.

Time to shut up Evra and the rest of them....Goal in dey pwefin.

 

hard luck dred, but we're the famous man united and we'll do wat we want
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 13, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
HA!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 13, 2010, 07:26:05 PM
HA!  :devil:

the man never come back since yes......  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on December 14, 2010, 06:14:00 AM
That game shoulda be a draw...

Howard webb biased no arse.

Fletcher could run up to the man and push him and not get a card.

Rio could stamp a man frankoment in he chest like De Jong and not get even a talking to.

Clichy on the ground he hand planted...nani kick the ball on his hand which he could not move and penalty.

and is a shit goal too that score...clichy pull stones ent close down the man it deflect off he boot and hit the Korean in he face.

What sour meh more is that nani ent get the assist in fantasy league.

Chamak shoulda bury the chance he get and Walcott shoulda come on since the half.

Sczeny is d new keeper to work with...he need some work on distribution but he shot stopping and crosses safe.

I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

No I not congratulating alyuh on no win...I toting feelings...Howard web calling sorf foul on Song and Rafael, Fletcher, Rooney hitting man after ball pass.

Howard Webb got it wrong yesterday.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on December 14, 2010, 06:27:59 AM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 14, 2010, 08:57:17 AM
That game shoulda be a draw...

Howard webb biased no arse.

Fletcher could run up to the man and push him and not get a card.

Rio could stamp a man frankoment in he chest like De Jong and not get even a talking to.

Clichy on the ground he hand planted...nani kick the ball on his hand which he could not move and penalty.

and is a shit goal too that score...clichy pull stones ent close down the man it deflect off he boot and hit the Korean in he face.

What sour meh more is that nani ent get the assist in fantasy league.

Chamak shoulda bury the chance he get and Walcott shoulda come on since the half.

Sczeny is d new keeper to work with...he need some work on distribution but he shot stopping and crosses safe.

I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

No I not congratulating alyuh on no win...I toting feelings...Howard web calling sorf foul on Song and Rafael, Fletcher, Rooney hitting man after ball pass.

Howard Webb got it wrong yesterday.

Outplayed,Outmuscled,Out-though

We created about 5 clear cut chances and wasted them... 1-0 flattered Arsenal who were like soft little boys

Stop wearing snoods and grow a pair... its a war out there

You are a bitter loser like your pedo manager....I'm surprised you didnt blame the pitch too like he did
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 14, 2010, 10:06:50 AM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on December 14, 2010, 10:21:23 AM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.

Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 14, 2010, 10:50:31 AM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.

Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....

You better go to the early service if not you will see all dem Chelski fans in church  ;D:!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 14, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.


Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....

12 pm TT Time Brownsugar.. on Sportsmax
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 14, 2010, 09:13:20 PM
(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/107557941.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E63EF95AA2B4E3CFAEC6B27A9CAAA2034510F623A413643C5A)
 :beermug:

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/107556199.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E604648800EEDAF5BFC6B27A9CAAA203450C29AD7FF65C78C8)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on December 15, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.


Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....

12 pm TT Time Brownsugar.. on Sportsmax

I will be in T&T for this game, I think we have FSC, would it be on both? I don't want to miss this game.

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 15, 2010, 11:13:33 PM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.


Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....

12 pm TT Time Brownsugar.. on Sportsmax

I will be in T&T for this game, I think we have FSC, would it be on both? I don't want to miss this game.

Big Up!

Sportsmax own the rights...Flow blocks FSC on weekends during EPL games that show on FSC(they will show on Sportsmax instead ie Sat 11am,1:30pm and Sun 12pm)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TRUwarrior on December 16, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
I hoping for a draw between Manu and Chelsea or a Chelsea win.

When is that game??....

Sunday 11am-FSC.


Yuh lie??!!  hhhhhhmmmm....

12 pm TT Time Brownsugar.. on Sportsmax

I will be in T&T for this game, I think we have FSC, would it be on both? I don't want to miss this game.

Big Up!

Sportsmax own the rights...Flow blocks FSC on weekends during EPL games that show on FSC(they will show on Sportsmax instead ie Sat 11am,1:30pm and Sun 12pm)



Direct TV is the way tuh go if yuh love football...Flow is ballz
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2010, 09:07:25 AM
first blood 1 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 26, 2010, 09:34:18 AM
Rooney's heavy touches and pull stones passes killin the knock!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 26, 2010, 10:17:31 AM
Ando look like Dinho wit dat no look! Ando keeps up his strong and excellent play and he will end up being the best mifielder in the EPL. rooney looks like he lackin confidence. Anton ferdinand must be a closeted United fan!  Giggsy is the man!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on December 26, 2010, 10:30:21 AM
Must admit Berba have a sweet touch. Sunderland players look nervous in possession, like the ball is potential "hurt locker"  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
job done, on to d next :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 28, 2010, 11:23:53 PM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson criticised referee Lee Mason for failing to rule out Birmingham's late equaliser in their 1-1 draw.

Lee Bowyer levelled after the ball appeared to come off the arm of substitute Nikola Zigic, who Ferguson also felt had fouled Rio Ferdinand.

Ferguson said: "It was handball. There was [also] a foul on the centre-half.

"He [Zigic] went right through the back of him [Ferdinand]. If the ref can't see that, what chance have you got?"

He added: "That's where we expect them [Premier League officials] to get a referee who sees that. If you can't see that, what chance have you got?"

United had taken the lead through Dimitar Berbatov in a tight game of few chances at St Andrews before Bowyer struck to earn his side a point with his goal in the 90th minute.

"I think it is terribly harsh," said Ferguson, whose unbeaten side have won only one of eight away league games this season, having again relinquished two points late on as they did at Fulham and Everton early in the campaign.

"I think we outplayed them in the second half. We deserved to win the game, we were the better team.

"Maybe we should have finished them off. We just lacked a bit more care in our final pass and finishing."

United moved back to the top of the Premier League on goal difference ahead of Manchester City, and have two games in hand on their local rivals.

But they missed an opportunity to move five points clear of Arsenal - who visit Wigan on Wednesday - and nine clear of Chelsea, who host Bolton, from the same number of games played (18).

"At this moment there are five or six teams who are all contesting that area at the top but if you get to New Year and you are in that front position then you have a great chance," added Ferguson.

Birmingham lifted themselves out of the bottom three with a point and manager Alex McLeish had little sympathy with United.

"He [Bowyer] wasn't offside, definitely not," he said. "It does look as if it came off Zigic's arm, but I don't think he plays it deliberately off his arm.

"It would have been harsh if he had been penalized for deliberate handball."

He added: "I feel that we got our reward for perseverance, good concentration, tactical awareness. The players adhered to everything we asked them to do.

"United had a lot of possession but most of it was deep on the pitch which suited us.

"United cut us open at the start of the second half but we fought back well and got our reward.

"We are not at a safe distance away from the bottom of the table at present but these sort of points could be crucial, bonus points really."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 12:27:39 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 29, 2010, 09:08:24 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2010, 09:14:45 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 29, 2010, 09:43:35 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk

yawn! haven't you lot lost more champs league finals than won?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 10:01:14 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk

yawn! haven't you lot lost more champs league finals than won?

4 European Finals...1 lost

compared to your 1 final and 1 loss

please dont compare trophies my boy... that will be a LOL Fest
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk

yawn! haven't you lot lost more champs league finals than won?

lol nope
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 29, 2010, 10:43:13 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk

yawn! haven't you lot lost more champs league finals than won?

lol nope


 :rotfl: :rotfl:  How de HELL a arsenal man go arkse a question like dat?!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 29, 2010, 12:14:32 PM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

when alyuh win a CL then we go talk

yawn! haven't you lot lost more champs league finals than won?

lol nope


 :rotfl: :rotfl:  How de HELL a arsenal man go arkse a question like dat?!  :rotfl:

REAL BOLD FACED  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 29, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

Haha whatever you say bossman...we have been consistent for the last 18 years winning trophies for fun... and it does not look like we will dry up anytime soon

just remember the 5 years of hurt your own team is going through... I warned Arsenal fans not to be too excited after the Chelsea game...I said they will find a away to f**k things up... days later..2-2 with 10 man Wigan..what a joke of a team
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on December 29, 2010, 06:16:22 PM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

Haha whatever you say bossman...we have been consistent for the last 18 years winning trophies for fun... and it does not look like we will dry up anytime soon

just remember the 5 years of hurt your own team is going through... I warned Arsenal fans not to be too excited after the Chelsea game...I said they will find a away to f**k things up... days later..2-2 with 10 man Wigan..what a joke of a team

 :devil:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 29, 2010, 08:53:45 PM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

Haha whatever you say bossman...we have been consistent for the last 18 years winning trophies for fun... and it does not look like we will dry up anytime soon

just remember the 5 years of hurt your own team is going through... I warned Arsenal fans not to be too excited after the Chelsea game...I said they will find a away to f**k things up... days later..2-2 with 10 man Wigan..what a joke of a team

Fergie can't live forever

Plus it would be great if we had an extra game rest in our schedule
Whatever
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2010, 09:10:38 PM
Next coach go be Morinho anyway  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 30, 2010, 07:41:04 AM
i havent seen the game but it tickles me no end to see fergie taking some of manu own sour grapes for once :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



If you saw the equaliser you would understand... 3 bad calls in 1 play

I find you real present btw, posting in every EPL thread.. 1 win vs Chelsea and yuh have swagger like if you just won the league...  be ready for the usual fade away in Feb/March... you have no chance to win the league..City have a better shot... your kids not ready yet

for 5 years we have been told we don't show up on the big games, we are just kids, not strong enough, easily bullied, weak etc all the rhetoric, even this season we were weak in the big games even against your side, so forgive me if i revel in the fact we are starting to prove the doubters wrong

also

i hope you realise your glory days as a manu fan will be something you look back upon as you get older and the dynasty fades away to the history books

Haha whatever you say bossman...we have been consistent for the last 18 years winning trophies for fun... and it does not look like we will dry up anytime soon

just remember the 5 years of hurt your own team is going through... I warned Arsenal fans not to be too excited after the Chelsea game...I said they will find a away to f**k things up... days later..2-2 with 10 man Wigan..what a joke of a team

Fergie can't live forever

Plus it would be great if we had an extra game rest in our schedule
Whatever
 

u go have plenty rest when barca done with allyuh....  :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on December 31, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on December 31, 2010, 12:50:39 PM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are


Well it could be argued that with his son there the development of those players could go according to their wishes..and since he no longer there that isnt certain.


Tony Pulis do the same.


However it hard to see this as anything else but vindictive.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 31, 2010, 01:49:22 PM
family first.......

ask zidane.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2011, 08:32:51 AM
I wonder if Berbatov and Rooney can have the type of partnership where both are scoring at the same time? Last year Rooney was on fire and Berbatov was not scoring this year it is reverse. Rooney scores yesterday and start controlling the ball and Berbatov due to his play end up getting subbed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 02, 2011, 08:45:12 AM
I wonder if Berbatov and Rooney can have the type of partnership where both are scoring at the same time? Last year Rooney was on fire and Berbatov was not scoring this year it is reverse. Rooney scores yesterday and start controlling the ball and Berbatov due to his play end up getting subbed.

  It's the laws of the universe......they are not meant to do it. Besides.....is only a big side like Barca or Real Madrid that could have such prolific scoring coming from so many talented players.  manu eh have enough talent to replicate.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Sando prince on January 02, 2011, 07:08:39 PM
Red Devils taking back what belongs to them this season  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on January 08, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
Bruce: Paul Ince pointed gun at Sir Alex
January 8, 2011

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Steve Bruce has revealed that Paul Ince once arrived at the club's training ground with his gun in jest to get Sir Alex Ferguson to put him in the Manchester United team.

Sunderland boss Bruce, speaking ahead of his date with Ince's Notts County in the FA Cup, said that Ince turned up with an air rifle and pointed it around the door at the United boss.

"Paul was nuts when he was a kid," said Bruce. "I don't think Fergie was ever attacked by a rifle before.

"I remember when he brought in his gun. He poked it around the door and it was a big air rifle. Fergie must have shouted at him or something like that to provoke it.

"Incey was larger than life and a good character to have around. He must have had something about him to threaten Fergie with a gun. We saw him do it. He poked the gun through the door and he was only 22 at the time.

"It was just tongue in cheek, though. He just knocked on the door and said something like, 'You'd better stop picking on me' or, 'You had better play me on Saturday'.

"He liked to think he was the Guv'nor. It just showed you how much front and bottle he had to be called the Guv'nor even when he first walked in the door.

"I just thought, 'Who's this cocky little thing from West Ham?' But when you're cocky like him you have to be able to back it up - and by god he was a good player. To have him and Roy Keane in front of me in their prime, with Andrei Kanchelskis and Ryan Giggs on the wings and Mark Hughes and Eric Cantona up front, that was some team I can tell you. It could do everything.

"We respected Incey straight away as a player. He has mellowed and matured since he became a dad. He just carries a pistol now rather than a rifle!

"He'll be going grey around the gills now and he won't like that, but he's a good lad."

Ince talked about his friendship with Bruce at Old Trafford, with the pair striking up a good relationship off the pitch.

"When I went to United I gravitated towards Bruce because he likes a beer - still does by the size of him. We are very good friends. Our houses were about 200 yards apart and we mixed socially. We go on holiday every year to the Algarve. We are very close.

"He looked after me at United and I get pleasure in seeing him do well at Sunderland. He can hopefully go on and become England manager.

"Bruce has the respect of players at Sunderland. The players can relate to him. You've got to have a bond with them. They have to be able to come to you with their problems, even if it's not football-related."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2011, 05:40:30 PM
Saturday 08 January 2011

Telegraph.co.uk

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson to mould team around Anderson and Rafael in radical revamp
Sir Alex Ferguson expects Brazilian duo Anderson and Rafael da Silva to become central figures in Manchester United’s future as he prepares to undertake his biggest squad overhaul at Old Trafford for over a decade.
 
  By Mark Ogden 7:00AM GMT 06 Jan 2011 

No fewer than six senior players are expected to leave United at the end of the season, with Edwin van der Sar, Gary Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Tomasz Kuszczak, Michael Owen and Wes Brown all likely to move on, either through retirement or a lack of first-team opportunities.

With doubts also hovering over the Old Trafford futures of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes, the United squad which starts the 2011-12 campaign could be the most youthful since Ferguson replaced Paul Ince, Mark Hughes and Andrei Kanchelskis with emerging stars such as Neville, Scholes, David Beckham and Nicky Butt in the summer of 1995.

While Giggs, who will mark the 20th anniversary of his United debut in March, and Scholes are expected to be offered one-year contracts to keep them at the club next season, Ferguson now believes his emerging players, supported by the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Wayne Rooney and Darren Fletcher, are ready to make the breakthrough.

The United manager has admitted that his loyalty to those players who have served him for lengthy periods tests his ruthlessness, but that admission came with the concession that time is a commodity he cannot afford to waste - a reality which leaves Neville, Van der Sar, Owen, Brown and the injury-ravaged Hargreaves exposed.

Ferguson said: “When they [players] grow old, their performance level drops, but we have to maintain a level of success at the top end of the game, at all the time. 
“We can’t afford bad years or breaking-in years. We have had periods like that, but we don’t want it and we need to be successful all the time.

“Sometimes, when a player grows old, you have to recognise it and they have to move on.”

With 21-year-old midfielder Tom Cleverley due to return from his loan at Wigan in the summer and Danny Welbeck, 20, set to be elevated to first-team contention following his impressive campaign on loan at Sunderland, new signings are likely to limited to players no older than their mid-20s. Everton’s Jack Rodwell and Sunderland’s England midfielder Jordan Henderson are thought to be the long term targets.

The emergence this season, however, of Anderson and Rafael has led Ferguson to pinpoint the pair as replacements for Scholes and Neville.

Having warned Anderson at the outset of the campaign that he faced a make-or-break season after failing to realise his potential since his £19 million arrival from Porto in May 2007, Ferguson has been sufficiently impressed by the 22-year-old to have sanctioned a new five-year contract for the midfielder last month.

And with Ferguson identifying Anderson as a replacement for Scholes four years ago, he believes he is now finally at the stage of being able to rise to that challenge.

“Long term, I hope he [Anderson] can prove to be Paul’s successor,” Ferguson said. “It’s a big ask to reach that level and the challenge will test his confidence, but someone will have to step up to the plate one day.”

Neville, meanwhile, has made just four appearances in all competitions this season and his loss of pace was exposed at West Brom last Saturday, with the 35-year-old fortunate not to be sent off and concede a penalty following a badly-time challenge on Graham Dorrans.

Rafael, in contrast, has emerged as first-choice right-back with Ferguson admitting that the 20 year-old has made impressive progress in recent months.

“Injury opens doors and the succession of setbacks suffered by Gary Neville has provided Rafael with more opportunities than he perhaps expected at this stage of his career,” Ferguson said.

“He is one of several players who have moved their careers forward when they have been brought into the team.” Chelsea’s struggle to reduce the age of their squad this season has led to accusations that too many of their younger players lack experience, yet many of United’s have already figured prominently at senior level.

Ferguson has already earmarked Jonny Evans and Chris Smalling as long-term replacements for Vidic and Rio Ferdinand, while he claimed last week that Bebe, the Portuguese winger, is now being moulded into a central striker to provide competition for Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov alongside Welbeck, Javier Hernandez and Federico Macheda.

The acquisition of Danish goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard, 26, is likely to be followed by the arrival of a more experienced replacement for Van der Sar, while teenagers Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison can expect to be given opportunities to press their claims in the Carling Cup next season.


Putting the ‘young’ in Old Trafford

Goalkeepers
Out: Edwin van der Sar (40), Tomasz Kuszczak (28)
In: Anders Lindegaard (26)
Targets: Manuel Neuer (24), David de Gea (20)

Defenders
Out: Gary Neville (35), Wes Brown (31)
In: Rafael da Silva (20), Jonny Evans (23), Chris Smalling (21)

Midfielders
Out: Paul Scholes (36), Owen Hargreaves (29)
In: Anderson (22), Darron Gibson (23), Tom Cleverley (21)

Forwards
Out: Michael Owen (31)
In: Danny Welbeck (20), Javier Hernández (22), Bebe (20
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2011, 06:09:14 PM
Tomasz Kuszczak out? reason?

Anders Lindegaard young fellah, reminds me of when Fergi got Peter

(http://www.soccer24seven.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Anders-Lindegaard.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2011, 06:21:24 PM
Tomasz Kuszczak out? reason?

Anders Lindegaard young fellah, reminds me of when Fergi got Peter

(http://www.soccer24seven.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Anders-Lindegaard.jpg)


I think Kuszczak wants to be the number 1 and he has yet to realize Fergie only sees him as back up material! He was talking about he will live if he doesn't get to play more.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 08, 2011, 06:29:09 PM
Kuszczak is not good enough to be our number 1...  he is a great shot stopper but he doesnt do a good enough job with the defenders as VDS does... If you watch United with VDS in goal vs without then you see the difference with the defensive perfomance... with VDS its Calm .. without him its a little all over the place...  the goalkeeper can help control the defense and organise them.... 

Fergie already said we will get someone with experience and enough ability to replace VDS... Lindegaard is the new backup.. Amos will wait in the wings and the new guy will be number 1..... Kuszczak will leave, guaranteed

Other than that we need 2 world class players in Summer... a talented attack minded Central midfielder and possibly a winger

Modric and Bale will do me fine....

Akinfeev/Given/Neur are my keeper options in that order

This looking nice

Akinfeev

Rafa
Rio
Vida
Evra

Nani
Modric
Fletcher
Bale

Rooney
Berba







Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2011, 06:32:39 PM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on January 09, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
Disappointing match in my opinion, after seeing the replay Berba went down to easily and Gerrard with that insanely clumsy lunge end up getting sent off. I am happy that we are through to the next round of the FA Cup but that was a very subpar to disappointing performance overall.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 09, 2011, 09:39:11 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 09, 2011, 09:45:05 AM
It's a win.... but very classless one... was no penalty to begin with  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 09, 2011, 10:57:17 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

Sir Alex deserves all his praise and credits. His achievements speaks for itself. he has created several winning teams. Not just one team for a couple of years and moving on. Legend!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 09, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
Kuszczak is not good enough to be our number 1...  he is a great shot stopper but he doesnt do a good enough job with the defenders as VDS does... If you watch United with VDS in goal vs without then you see the difference with the defensive perfomance... with VDS its Calm .. without him its a little all over the place...  the goalkeeper can help control the defense and organise them.... 

Fergie already said we will get someone with experience and enough ability to replace VDS... Lindegaard is the new backup.. Amos will wait in the wings and the new guy will be number 1..... Kuszczak will leave, guaranteed

Other than that we need 2 world class players in Summer... a talented attack minded Central midfielder and possibly a winger

Modric and Bale will do me fine....

Akinfeev/Given/Neur are my keeper options in that order

This looking nice

Akinfeev

Rafa
Rio
Vida
Evra

Nani
Modric
Fletcher
Bale

Rooney
Berba









I would move Rooney to a central midfield position providing he regains form and if he doesn't get sold. I would pick up Benzema and buy a left sided winger.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 09, 2011, 01:40:57 PM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2011, 02:52:29 PM
Kuszczak is not good enough to be our number 1...  he is a great shot stopper but he doesnt do a good enough job with the defenders as VDS does... If you watch United with VDS in goal vs without then you see the difference with the defensive perfomance... with VDS its Calm .. without him its a little all over the place...  the goalkeeper can help control the defense and organise them.... 

Fergie already said we will get someone with experience and enough ability to replace VDS... Lindegaard is the new backup.. Amos will wait in the wings and the new guy will be number 1..... Kuszczak will leave, guaranteed

Other than that we need 2 world class players in Summer... a talented attack minded Central midfielder and possibly a winger

Modric and Bale will do me fine....

Akinfeev/Given/Neur are my keeper options in that order

This looking nice

Akinfeev

Rafa
Rio
Vida
Evra

Nani
Modric
Fletcher
Bale

Rooney
Berba









I would move Rooney to a central midfield position providing he regains form and if he doesn't get sold. I would pick up Benzema and buy a left sided winger.
Instead of Modric I'll take Sneider and Bale. Modric is good, but I don't see him playing the Man.U style of football. Bale would fit in just right.

On another note, I'll sell Evans and Gibson. I hate seeing their names in the starting line up whenever they get the green light to play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 09, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
Kuszczak is not good enough to be our number 1...  he is a great shot stopper but he doesnt do a good enough job with the defenders as VDS does... If you watch United with VDS in goal vs without then you see the difference with the defensive perfomance... with VDS its Calm .. without him its a little all over the place...  the goalkeeper can help control the defense and organise them.... 

Fergie already said we will get someone with experience and enough ability to replace VDS... Lindegaard is the new backup.. Amos will wait in the wings and the new guy will be number 1..... Kuszczak will leave, guaranteed

Other than that we need 2 world class players in Summer... a talented attack minded Central midfielder and possibly a winger

Modric and Bale will do me fine....

Akinfeev/Given/Neur are my keeper options in that order

This looking nice

Akinfeev

Rafa
Rio
Vida
Evra

Nani
Modric
Fletcher
Bale

Rooney
Berba









I would move Rooney to a central midfield position providing he regains form and if he doesn't get sold. I would pick up Benzema and buy a left sided winger.
Instead of Modric I'll take Sneider and Bale. Modric is good, but I don't see him playing the Man.U style of football. Bale would fit in just right.

On another note, I'll sell Evans and Gibson. I hate seeing their names in the starting line up whenever they get the green light to play.

I don't know how Evans has not figured out that he needs to hit the gym to improve his physical strength. he looks real fragile. Gibson is one dimensional and I can't see him getting better. I could keep Evans if he improves his physique, Gibson can move on to Sunderland. I don't know why Spurs would sell Bale to United considering how important he is to their side and the fact that the team is successful. Plus Bale didn't come to United when he had a chance which sometimes indicates that a player may not feel like he can handle what it takes to be a United player. But I don't think United should pursue Bale or Modric. I like when they find players that have not blown up yet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 10, 2011, 02:05:52 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!

I don't give a shit how much of a "winner" he is heralded to be.  Publicly, privately or in my subconcious dreams, I don't like him and I would never want him coaching any team I like.   He has little to no class and sets the tone of how the rest of you lot think and act (publicly and privately) so keep 'im.  Neither do I like manu's style and brand of football, nor do I like any of y'all players.  You think alex ferguson could coach the same kinda football out of the current (or past) Barcelona squad(s) that Pep Guardiola does?  Please.  Allyuh does get tie-up oui.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 10, 2011, 07:29:50 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!

I don't give a shit how much of a "winner" he is heralded to be.  Publicly, privately or in my subconcious dreams, I don't like him and I would never want him coaching any team I like.   He has little to no class and sets the tone of how the rest of you lot think and act (publicly and privately) so keep 'im.  Neither do I like manu's style and brand of football, nor do I like any of y'all players.  You think alex ferguson could coach the same kinda football out of the current (or past) Barcelona squad(s) that Pep Guardiola does?  Please.  Allyuh does get tie-up oui.

That's extra rich coming from a Jose and Chelski fan! I know you enjoy watching shit on a stick football!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 10, 2011, 09:36:55 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!

I don't give a shit how much of a "winner" he is heralded to be.  Publicly, privately or in my subconcious dreams, I don't like him and I would never want him coaching any team I like.   He has little to no class and sets the tone of how the rest of you lot think and act (publicly and privately) so keep 'im.  Neither do I like manu's style and brand of football, nor do I like any of y'all players.  You think alex ferguson could coach the same kinda football out of the current (or past) Barcelona squad(s) that Pep Guardiola does?  Please.  Allyuh does get tie-up oui.

That's extra rich coming from a Jose and Chelski fan! I know you enjoy watching shit on a stick football!

I like how you always try to use Chelsea as some kinda I-don't-know-what to try and throw back at me.  My appreciation for the fine art of football does not live and die or begin and end with Chelsea.  but fuh y'all manu fans, manu is all you know and manu is all y'all can appreciate. "winning".  that is what y'all like. Ha!  Funny thing is, manu doh play no beautiful brand of football.  manu is NOT on the same level of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real madrid, Juventus, and (God forbid) Barcelona.  So when you talk about "shit on a stick" football, don't get tie up wit allyuh quantitative results. 19 or hummuch EPL titles and 2 gifted Champions' League tropies and fergie could only DREAM of having his side knock ball the way the aforementioned tems can.  Yuh think fergie could even have his side knockin' ball like how Barca shame allyuh in the CL final?  Even arsene9 know how to have his side playing more attractive football than allyuh.  But it doh matter.  winning" is all that matter.  Beautiful win yesterday against liverpool, by the way.  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 10, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
...as a matter of fact, the most naturally gifted man on allyuh squad, who have more deftness of touch and skill in he little toe than the ress ah allyuh team, allyuh does call a shithong.  But, as vidic said not too long ago "...we don't care about pretty football..." but that was before Eto'o had undress him for all the world to see with some pretty football self.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 10, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!

I don't give a shit how much of a "winner" he is heralded to be.  Publicly, privately or in my subconcious dreams, I don't like him and I would never want him coaching any team I like.   He has little to no class and sets the tone of how the rest of you lot think and act (publicly and privately) so keep 'im.  Neither do I like manu's style and brand of football, nor do I like any of y'all players.  You think alex ferguson could coach the same kinda football out of the current (or past) Barcelona squad(s) that Pep Guardiola does?  Please.  Allyuh does get tie-up oui.

That's extra rich coming from a Jose and Chelski fan! I know you enjoy watching shit on a stick football!

I like how you always try to use Chelsea as some kinda I-don't-know-what to try and throw back at me.  My appreciation for the fine art of football does not live and die or begin and end with Chelsea.  but fuh y'all manu fans, manu is all you know and manu is all y'all can appreciate. "winning".  that is what y'all like. Ha!  Funny thing is, manu doh play no beautiful brand of football.  manu is NOT on the same level of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real madrid, Juventus, and (God forbid) Barcelona.  So when you talk about "shit on a stick" football, don't get tie up wit allyuh quantitative results. 19 or hummuch EPL titles and 2 gifted Champions' League tropies and fergie could only DREAM of having his side knock ball the way the aforementioned tems can.  Yuh think fergie could even have his side knockin' ball like how Barca shame allyuh in the CL final?  Even arsene9 know how to have his side playing more attractive football than allyuh.  But it doh matter.  winning" is all that matter.  Beautiful win yesterday against liverpool, by the way.  ;)

I take what you say with a grain of salt because you lack zero objectivity when it relates to anyting United. So keep on hatin brother, keep on hatin!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 10, 2011, 10:13:26 AM
Sir Alex gorn ballistic as Preston fires his son Darren. Alex made an immediate recall of all ManU players on loan to Preston  :rotfl: Not easy!

By Alex Dimond


Don't cross Sir Alex Ferguson — or anyone he's ever been related to

Aren't people supposed to mellow with age? I mean, other than those who get even more grouchy and constantly grumble about how "back in my day..."?

It would be simple to say Sir Alex Ferguson belongs in the latter category, if he hadn't always been (by all accounts) just seconds away from the next violent outburst.

Nevertheless, the Scot managed to outdo himself this week, showing the world that vindictiveness (is that a word?!) can always plumb new depths. Hearing the news that his son Darren had been sacked from Preston North End after what no-one can deny was a fairly abject campaign to date, the protective father responded by immediately recalling two Manchester United youngsters on loan at the club, and demanding a third return as soon as possible.

As club chairman Maurice Lindsay noted: "That has come as a bit of a shock to us and it's a bit of a blow."

Josh King and Ritchie de Laet were gaining valuable experience at Deepdale, but now (reportedly against their wishes) will have to return to Old Trafford where they will have to be content with life back in the reserves — something that will only hinder their development. But what cost is that if Fergie needs to make a point?

And that point is? Well, don't EVER sack a Ferguson, obviously.

No matter how incompetent they are

Fergie is the Godfather and Scarface in one. He controlling this whole scene by lending out players to managers he is friends with to not only maintain the friendship but to also keep dem under manners. Half the battle is already won before the teams play.Fergie have this down to a science. As much as the media and opposition fans like to have a go at him he appears to be more popular among mangers than arsene9, Carlo and whoever managing Liverpool these days. English managers and foreign mangers speak highly of the man.

  I'm willing to bet that people spoke very highly of Genghis Khan in public, too.

I bet you will not admit it in publick but you wouldn't mind if he was  captaining your ship cuase the man always has a plan and he is a WINNER!

I don't give a shit how much of a "winner" he is heralded to be.  Publicly, privately or in my subconcious dreams, I don't like him and I would never want him coaching any team I like.   He has little to no class and sets the tone of how the rest of you lot think and act (publicly and privately) so keep 'im.  Neither do I like manu's style and brand of football, nor do I like any of y'all players.  You think alex ferguson could coach the same kinda football out of the current (or past) Barcelona squad(s) that Pep Guardiola does?  Please.  Allyuh does get tie-up oui.

That's extra rich coming from a Jose and Chelski fan! I know you enjoy watching shit on a stick football!

I like how you always try to use Chelsea as some kinda I-don't-know-what to try and throw back at me.  My appreciation for the fine art of football does not live and die or begin and end with Chelsea.  but fuh y'all manu fans, manu is all you know and manu is all y'all can appreciate. "winning".  that is what y'all like. Ha!  Funny thing is, manu doh play no beautiful brand of football.  manu is NOT on the same level of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real madrid, Juventus, and (God forbid) Barcelona.  So when you talk about "shit on a stick" football, don't get tie up wit allyuh quantitative results. 19 or hummuch EPL titles and 2 gifted Champions' League tropies and fergie could only DREAM of having his side knock ball the way the aforementioned tems can.  Yuh think fergie could even have his side knockin' ball like how Barca shame allyuh in the CL final?  Even arsene9 know how to have his side playing more attractive football than allyuh.  But it doh matter.  winning" is all that matter.  Beautiful win yesterday against liverpool, by the way.  ;)

I take what you say with a grain of salt because you lack zero objectivity when it relates to anyting United. So keep on hatin brother, keep on hatin!  :beermug:

  So you're saying I'm wrong?  manu does play a brand of football on par with the teams I mentioned?  Arright, sorry, Ah take it back wit meh zero objecive self.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 10, 2011, 10:20:19 AM
I like how you always try to use Chelsea as some kinda I-don't-know-what to try and throw back at me.  My appreciation for the fine art of football does not live and die or begin and end with Chelsea.  but fuh y'all manu fans, manu is all you know and manu is all y'all can appreciate. "winning".  that is what y'all like. Ha!  Funny thing is, manu doh play no beautiful brand of football.  manu is NOT on the same level of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real madrid, Juventus, and (God forbid) Barcelona.  So when you talk about "shit on a stick" football, don't get tie up wit allyuh quantitative results. 19 or hummuch EPL titles and 2 gifted Champions' League tropies and fergie could only DREAM of having his side knock ball the way the aforementioned tems can.  Yuh think fergie could even have his side knockin' ball like how Barca shame allyuh in the CL final?  Even arsene9 know how to have his side playing more attractive football than allyuh.  But it doh matter.  winning" is all that matter.  Beautiful win yesterday against liverpool, by the way.  ;)

Yuh either miss the point or choose to ignore her statement. For all yuh talk about United not playing good brand and Ferguson being classless as indictments of Ferguson, you revere Mourinho, sorry "Joe-say". Ferguson and Mourinho are similarly odious if they not at your club. They both bully players, refs and the media while at the same time inspire players and teams to run throughs walls and have self-belief that belies their abilities. Not much between them there.

Mourinho's tactics has its merits but yuh could hardly claim that it is more atrractive than the football that Ferguson has his teams play. Ferguson's sides are genrally more adventurous (I being kind to Mourinho) and less based on a pressing, transition game. If anything this is now a growing part of Ferguson's tactics as he swithces to 4-3-3 but for most of his time Ferguson has relied on a very open system with two wingers mashing line, two strikers and two centre mids, most times without a dedicated destroyer/Makalele/Gilberto type player.

The comparison to Barcelona is neither here nor there since no other modern side playing the football they playing, certainly not the Madrid, Juve , Inter and AC sides yuh mentioning. I curious to hear what other manager have a side playing like Barcelona though since that is the standard that Ferguson being judged by.

As for the others United play Inter and Milan recently. Milan outplay them comprehensively the first time but United didn't look out of place against either Inter or Milan in the past two years. United play Juve through out the 90's and in the early 2000's. First two times Juve walk over them, United was naive to the extreme and did not have the quality. Next time was the CL semis, comprehensive hard-fought United win, and then in the Group stage a couple years later, United Roll past Juve with ease. It used to be that United was big in Europe in name only and the Italian teams were better but that has not been the case for years.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 10, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
I like how you always try to use Chelsea as some kinda I-don't-know-what to try and throw back at me.  My appreciation for the fine art of football does not live and die or begin and end with Chelsea.  but fuh y'all manu fans, manu is all you know and manu is all y'all can appreciate. "winning".  that is what y'all like. Ha!  Funny thing is, manu doh play no beautiful brand of football.  manu is NOT on the same level of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real madrid, Juventus, and (God forbid) Barcelona.  So when you talk about "shit on a stick" football, don't get tie up wit allyuh quantitative results. 19 or hummuch EPL titles and 2 gifted Champions' League tropies and fergie could only DREAM of having his side knock ball the way the aforementioned tems can.  Yuh think fergie could even have his side knockin' ball like how Barca shame allyuh in the CL final?  Even arsene9 know how to have his side playing more attractive football than allyuh.  But it doh matter.  winning" is all that matter.  Beautiful win yesterday against liverpool, by the way.  ;)

Yuh either miss the point or choose to ignore her statement. For all yuh talk about United not playing good brand and Ferguson being classless as indictments of Ferguson, you revere Mourinho, sorry "Joe-say". Ferguson and Mourinho are similarly odious if they not at your club. They both bully players, refs and the media while at the same time inspire players and teams to run throughs walls and have self-belief that belies their abilities. Not much between them there.

Mourinho's tactics has its merits but yuh could hardly claim that it is more atrractive than the football that Ferguson has his teams play. Ferguson's sides are genrally more adventurous (I being kind to Mourinho) and less based on a pressing, transition game. If anything this is now a growing part of Ferguson's tactics as he swithces to 4-3-3 but for most of his time Ferguson has relied on a very open system with two wingers mashing line, two strikers and two centre mids, most times without a dedicated destroyer/Makalele/Gilberto type player.

The comparison to Barcelona is neither here nor there since no other modern side playing the football they playing, certainly not the Madrid, Juve , Inter and AC sides yuh mentioning. I curious to hear what other manager have a side playing like Barcelona though since that is the standard that Ferguson being judged by.

As for the others United play Inter and Milan recently. Milan outplay them comprehensively the first time but United didn't look out of place against either Inter or Milan in the past two years. United play Juve through out the 90's and in the early 2000's. First two times Juve walk over them, United was naive to the extreme and did not have the quality. Next time was the CL semis, comprehensive hard-fought United win, and then in the Group stage a couple years later, United Roll past Juve with ease. It used to be that United was big in Europe in name only and the Italian teams were better but that has not been the case for years.



  .....I don't quite get the "Joe-say" thing, but dize obviously your issue.   To say I "revere" Jose, there might be some truth to that, but clearly by your whole rant, you have no clue why I do, and clearly you, like so many other people, does get tie up wit the whole Jose ting.  Let me make it very clear, eh, I was a Chelsea fan long before Jose arrived at Stamford Bridge and I became a fan of his right before he came to Chelsea.  You talk about bullying the media, refs and players?  Well who you think is the poster boy for that?  Not fergie?  Jose is the first manager (that I see) that stood up to alex ferguson and beat him at his own game. He came in one playoff with Porto against manu and did what no other manager could do.  That is why I  started to like him, soyou can put away all that other stuff about tactics and what not.  Many a time I have criticised Chelsea's tactics, many a time I have expressed my dislike for some of the things that Jose has said or done, in fact, one time I was questioning his tactics on a thread and somebody called themselves pullin' me up on it.   And I don't shy away from criticising him when he makes crazy accusations against officials.  I wouldn't say he bullies the media.  I think he likes to play with them, he likes the attention he gets, he thinks he is clever (and at times he is) and he uses all that (some say......and his degree in psychology) to "take pressure off his team".   As far as bullying players, are you for real? Even if you want to call the few dust-ups that were aired out in the media, you cannot cmpare him to feruson in that department.  Please!  fergie owns the deed on bullying players and quite frankly, I do not think the refs and the FA were as intimidated by Mourinho as they are of fergie. 

I think that when I made the so-called "comparison" to Barcelona, my use of "God forbid" should let you know that I was being facetious.  No team on the planet can compare to Barca under Pep Guardiola so when you say the comparison is "neither here nor there" then you are the one missing the point.  I am just rubbing it in their noses how bad Barca made them look, I am not comparing fergie to Pep because there is no comparison. Whatever successes manu has recently had against the Juventuses and AC Milans of today don't compare to the successes those teams and other teams have had against manu over the span of manu's dominance in english football and saying that manu was "naive" doh fly with me.  What happened against Dortmund, were they naive then, too?  And against Porto....and Bayern Last year, was that naivetee as well?   As well as when Kaka and AC Milan shreded them to bits a few seasons ago.  Come on. .  You said it yourself. "manu was big in name only" but listening to manu fans, their team and fergie is the best team and manager on the planet.....and has been for generations!  And that is bullshit.  It's safe to say I ignored Giggsy's statement.  She and I have had this same discussion before.   

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 11, 2011, 06:09:26 PM
Fergie's son going back to manage the side that he managed before Preston; I wonder if the loanees will follow him!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 12, 2011, 03:32:59 PM
I.....I don't quite get the "Joe-say" thing, but dize obviously your issue.   To say I "revere" Jose, there might be some truth to that, but clearly by your whole rant, you have no clue why I do, and clearly you, like so many other people, does get tie up wit the whole Jose ting.  Let me make it very clear, eh, I was a Chelsea fan long before Jose arrived at Stamford Bridge and I became a fan of his right before he came to Chelsea.  You talk about bullying the media, refs and players?  Well who you think is the poster boy for that?  Not fergie?  Jose is the first manager (that I see) that stood up to alex ferguson and beat him at his own game. He came in one playoff with Porto against manu and did what no other manager could do.  That is why I  started to like him, soyou can put away all that other stuff about tactics and what not.  Many a time I have criticised Chelsea's tactics, many a time I have expressed my dislike for some of the things that Jose has said or done, in fact, one time I was questioning his tactics on a thread and somebody called themselves pullin' me up on it.   And I don't shy away from criticising him when he makes crazy accusations against officials.  I wouldn't say he bullies the media.  I think he likes to play with them, he likes the attention he gets, he thinks he is clever (and at times he is) and he uses all that (some say......and his degree in psychology) to "take pressure off his team".   As far as bullying players, are you for real? Even if you want to call the few dust-ups that were aired out in the media, you cannot cmpare him to feruson in that department.  Please!  fergie owns the deed on bullying players and quite frankly, I do not think the refs and the FA were as intimidated by Mourinho as they are of fergie. 

Chow my point is that both Ferguson and Mourinho are similarly distasteful if yuh not backing them. You excusing Mourinho's actions and taking time to find justifications for them and painting them in a positive light at the same time you giving Ferguson a demerit for similar actions. All managers complain about referees' competence and Mourinho complains just as much as Ferguson but even Ferguson never accuse a referee of collusion with an opposing manager. That accusation result in Chelsea fans threatening the ref and his family and the ref decide to resign. Also Ferguson has taken digs at Wenger and Rafa in the past based on legitimate disputes (and has always been complementary of Mourinho) but Mourinho also tackle both those managers plus went after Ranieri in a very low way describing the man as a loser. Add to teh fact that Mourinho does something that Ferguson never does which is interact with opposition fans. I don't see an objective observer looking at that and putting Mourinho on some moral high ground compared to Ferguson.

I think that when I made the so-called "comparison" to Barcelona, my use of "God forbid" should let you know that I was being facetious.  No team on the planet can compare to Barca under Pep Guardiola so when you say the comparison is "neither here nor there" then you are the one missing the point.  I am just rubbing it in their noses how bad Barca made them look, I am not comparing fergie to Pep because there is no comparison. Whatever successes manu has recently had against the Juventuses and AC Milans of today don't compare to the successes those teams and other teams have had against manu over the span of manu's dominance in english football and saying that manu was "naive" doh fly with me.  What happened against Dortmund, were they naive then, too?  And against Porto....and Bayern Last year, was that naivetee as well?   As well as when Kaka and AC Milan shreded them to bits a few seasons ago.  Come on. .  You said it yourself. "manu was big in name only" but listening to manu fans, their team and fergie is the best team and manager on the planet.....and has been for generations!  And that is bullshit.  It's safe to say I ignored Giggsy's statement.  She and I have had this same discussion before.  

Here you complain about United fans over-rating the club and your response criticize them for losing games as if 31 of the 32 teams in the CL proper don't lose games. Is only one team winning it every year and over a span where the club win the competition once, make a final a couple semi-finals and win some big games it's not like they getting outclassed every year. You might find that them losses is something to knock United for but the club is actually in a pretty successful spell in Europe. Again, this is by an objective measure by the standard you setting the club's record is a sign of a shit side.

Anyway my original point is that it okay to not like a side and a manager, especially if he at a club for 24+ years and is identified with the club's success, but yuh have to recognize that the comparison yuh drawing between Mourinho and Ferguson, as far as class and football philosophy goes, might be influenced by your perspective as a Mourinho fan and a non-fan of Ferguson.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 12, 2011, 08:45:47 PM
I.....I don't quite get the "Joe-say" thing, but dize obviously your issue.   To say I "revere" Jose, there might be some truth to that, but clearly by your whole rant, you have no clue why I do, and clearly you, like so many other people, does get tie up wit the whole Jose ting.  Let me make it very clear, eh, I was a Chelsea fan long before Jose arrived at Stamford Bridge and I became a fan of his right before he came to Chelsea.  You talk about bullying the media, refs and players?  Well who you think is the poster boy for that?  Not fergie?  Jose is the first manager (that I see) that stood up to alex ferguson and beat him at his own game. He came in one playoff with Porto against manu and did what no other manager could do.  That is why I  started to like him, soyou can put away all that other stuff about tactics and what not.  Many a time I have criticised Chelsea's tactics, many a time I have expressed my dislike for some of the things that Jose has said or done, in fact, one time I was questioning his tactics on a thread and somebody called themselves pullin' me up on it.   And I don't shy away from criticising him when he makes crazy accusations against officials.  I wouldn't say he bullies the media.  I think he likes to play with them, he likes the attention he gets, he thinks he is clever (and at times he is) and he uses all that (some say......and his degree in psychology) to "take pressure off his team".   As far as bullying players, are you for real? Even if you want to call the few dust-ups that were aired out in the media, you cannot cmpare him to feruson in that department.  Please!  fergie owns the deed on bullying players and quite frankly, I do not think the refs and the FA were as intimidated by Mourinho as they are of fergie. 

Chow my point is that both Ferguson and Mourinho are similarly distasteful if yuh not backing them. You excusing Mourinho's actions and taking time to find justifications for them and painting them in a positive light at the same time you giving Ferguson a demerit for similar actions. All managers complain about referees' competence and Mourinho complains just as much as Ferguson but even Ferguson never accuse a referee of collusion with an opposing manager. That accusation result in Chelsea fans threatening the ref and his family and the ref decide to resign. Also Ferguson has taken digs at Wenger and Rafa in the past based on legitimate disputes (and has always been complementary of Mourinho) but Mourinho also tackle both those managers plus went after Ranieri in a very low way describing the man as a loser. Add to teh fact that Mourinho does something that Ferguson never does which is interact with opposition fans. I don't see an objective observer looking at that and putting Mourinho on some moral high ground compared to Ferguson.







But JDB, I agree that Jose has done some indefensible things....all for which he has been punished by the rescpetive governing bodies and scalded in the media.   When fergie crosses the line with his criticisms and outlandish comments, he gets free passes.  This is why I don't see it as bullying.  I am not justifying the rediculous things that Jose does.  I just see him as using different methods than "bullying".  Quite frankly, I really see Jose as more of a rebel than a bully and fergie as more of an obnoxious bully than anything else.  Most of their fans try to be the same.  As far as his beefs with other coaches, maybe he has legitimate reasons for beefin' with them, I dunno.  How legit was fergie's beef with Rafa when Rafa was (if I remember correctly and we talkin' about the same thig) simply expressing what most people feel anyway: that fergie bullies the refs and the FA.  Rafa tried playing mind games with fergie and lost.....what coach don't have beef with arsene9?   Also, fergie is not the only coach to speak highly of Jose and as far as Jose interacting with the fans, I have only seen him interacting with his respective team's supporters and it hasn't been negative.








I think that when I made the so-called "comparison" to Barcelona, my use of "God forbid" should let you know that I was being facetious.  No team on the planet can compare to Barca under Pep Guardiola so when you say the comparison is "neither here nor there" then you are the one missing the point.  I am just rubbing it in their noses how bad Barca made them look, I am not comparing fergie to Pep because there is no comparison. Whatever successes manu has recently had against the Juventuses and AC Milans of today don't compare to the successes those teams and other teams have had against manu over the span of manu's dominance in english football and saying that manu was "naive" doh fly with me.  What happened against Dortmund, were they naive then, too?  And against Porto....and Bayern Last year, was that naivetee as well?   As well as when Kaka and AC Milan shreded them to bits a few seasons ago.  Come on. .  You said it yourself. "manu was big in name only" but listening to manu fans, their team and fergie is the best team and manager on the planet.....and has been for generations!  And that is bullshit.  It's safe to say I ignored Giggsy's statement.  She and I have had this same discussion before.  

Here you complain about United fans over-rating the club and your response criticize them for losing games as if 31 of the 32 teams in the CL proper don't lose games. Is only one team winning it every year and over a span where the club win the competition once, make a final a couple semi-finals and win some big games it's not like they getting outclassed every year. You might find that them losses is something to knock United for but the club is actually in a pretty successful spell in Europe. Again, this is by an objective measure by the standard you setting the club's record is a sign of a shit side.



Again, yuh takin' my facetiousness in calling manu a "shit side" to a manu fan as a literal evaluation.  I will be the first to admit that manu are arguably the biggest side in England....currently.  Meaning, if you ignore liverpool's history.  But relative to their long span of english dominance, and their curremt spell in Europe, I just still don't see them as being or having been the best club in the world during that time.  statistically or aesthetically, contrary to the boistrous opinions of their marauding and obnoxious fans.  That is just a matter of taste, to me and not bias, because in spite of whatever recent successes Chelsea has had (and I know it doesn't compare) I am not inclined to give my side more credit than they are due, either.






Anyway my original point is that it okay to not like a side and a manager, especially if he at a club for 24+ years and is identified with the club's success, but yuh have to recognize that the comparison yuh drawing between Mourinho and Ferguson, as far as class and football philosophy goes, might be influenced by your perspective as a Mourinho fan and a non-fan of Ferguson.


Nah, JDB, I think you're really overestimating my "bias" here.  I can appreciate the things that Jose has done for Chelsea as a coach while rejecting some of his behaviour.  I am not defending him blindly here.  In fact, I don't even think he should have won that "Coach of The Year" award from fifa, but that is for another discussion.  My bottom lines are that (1) manu and fergie gets away with more than their fair share of alot of shit and (2) they are not as great a team as their fans paint them to be.  That is not to be mistaken for elevating Chelsea or Jose to any higher comparative ground on anything, from morals to aesthetics to tactics.  I don't like Chelsea and/or/because I think they are the best team in Europe.  I like chelsea because I like them.   We could win the next three CL's in a row and I still wouldn't give them more credit that they are due. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 12, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
I.....I don't quite get the "Joe-say" thing, but dize obviously your issue.   To say I "revere" Jose, there might be some truth to that, but clearly by your whole rant, you have no clue why I do, and clearly you, like so many other people, does get tie up wit the whole Jose ting.  Let me make it very clear, eh, I was a Chelsea fan long before Jose arrived at Stamford Bridge and I became a fan of his right before he came to Chelsea.  You talk about bullying the media, refs and players?  Well who you think is the poster boy for that?  Not fergie?  Jose is the first manager (that I see) that stood up to alex ferguson and beat him at his own game. He came in one playoff with Porto against manu and did what no other manager could do.  That is why I  started to like him, soyou can put away all that other stuff about tactics and what not.  Many a time I have criticised Chelsea's tactics, many a time I have expressed my dislike for some of the things that Jose has said or done, in fact, one time I was questioning his tactics on a thread and somebody called themselves pullin' me up on it.   And I don't shy away from criticising him when he makes crazy accusations against officials.  I wouldn't say he bullies the media.  I think he likes to play with them, he likes the attention he gets, he thinks he is clever (and at times he is) and he uses all that (some say......and his degree in psychology) to "take pressure off his team".   As far as bullying players, are you for real? Even if you want to call the few dust-ups that were aired out in the media, you cannot cmpare him to feruson in that department.  Please!  fergie owns the deed on bullying players and quite frankly, I do not think the refs and the FA were as intimidated by Mourinho as they are of fergie. 

Chow my point is that both Ferguson and Mourinho are similarly distasteful if yuh not backing them. You excusing Mourinho's actions and taking time to find justifications for them and painting them in a positive light at the same time you giving Ferguson a demerit for similar actions. All managers complain about referees' competence and Mourinho complains just as much as Ferguson but even Ferguson never accuse a referee of collusion with an opposing manager. That accusation result in Chelsea fans threatening the ref and his family and the ref decide to resign. Also Ferguson has taken digs at Wenger and Rafa in the past based on legitimate disputes (and has always been complementary of Mourinho) but Mourinho also tackle both those managers plus went after Ranieri in a very low way describing the man as a loser. Add to teh fact that Mourinho does something that Ferguson never does which is interact with opposition fans. I don't see an objective observer looking at that and putting Mourinho on some moral high ground compared to Ferguson.







But JDB, I agree that Jose has done some indefensible things....all for which he has been punished by the rescpetive governing bodies and scalded in the media.   When fergie crosses the line with his criticisms and outlandish comments, he gets free passes.  This is why I don't see it as bullying.  I am not justifying the rediculous things that Jose does.  I just see him as using different methods than "bullying".  Quite frankly, I really see Jose as more of a rebel than a bully and fergie as more of an obnoxious bully than anything else.  Most of their fans try to be the same.  As far as his beefs with other coaches, maybe he has legitimate reasons for beefin' with them, I dunno.  How legit was fergie's beef with Rafa when Rafa was (if I remember correctly and we talkin' about the same thig) simply expressing what most people feel anyway: that fergie bullies the refs and the FA.  Rafa tried playing mind games with fergie and lost.....what coach don't have beef with arsene9?   Also, fergie is not the only coach to speak highly of Jose and as far as Jose interacting with the fans, I have only seen him interacting with his respective team's supporters and it hasn't been negative.








I think that when I made the so-called "comparison" to Barcelona, my use of "God forbid" should let you know that I was being facetious.  No team on the planet can compare to Barca under Pep Guardiola so when you say the comparison is "neither here nor there" then you are the one missing the point.  I am just rubbing it in their noses how bad Barca made them look, I am not comparing fergie to Pep because there is no comparison. Whatever successes manu has recently had against the Juventuses and AC Milans of today don't compare to the successes those teams and other teams have had against manu over the span of manu's dominance in english football and saying that manu was "naive" doh fly with me.  What happened against Dortmund, were they naive then, too?  And against Porto....and Bayern Last year, was that naivetee as well?   As well as when Kaka and AC Milan shreded them to bits a few seasons ago.  Come on. .  You said it yourself. "manu was big in name only" but listening to manu fans, their team and fergie is the best team and manager on the planet.....and has been for generations!  And that is bullshit.  It's safe to say I ignored Giggsy's statement.  She and I have had this same discussion before.  

Here you complain about United fans over-rating the club and your response criticize them for losing games as if 31 of the 32 teams in the CL proper don't lose games. Is only one team winning it every year and over a span where the club win the competition once, make a final a couple semi-finals and win some big games it's not like they getting outclassed every year. You might find that them losses is something to knock United for but the club is actually in a pretty successful spell in Europe. Again, this is by an objective measure by the standard you setting the club's record is a sign of a shit side.



Again, yuh takin' my facetiousness in calling manu a "shit side" to a manu fan as a literal evaluation.  I will be the first to admit that manu are arguably the biggest side in England....currently.  Meaning, if you ignore liverpool's history.  But relative to their long span of english dominance, and their curremt spell in Europe, I just still don't see them as being or having been the best club in the world during that time.  statistically or aesthetically, contrary to the boistrous opinions of their marauding and obnoxious fans.  That is just a matter of taste, to me and not bias, because in spite of whatever recent successes Chelsea has had (and I know it doesn't compare) I am not inclined to give my side more credit than they are due, either.






Anyway my original point is that it okay to not like a side and a manager, especially if he at a club for 24+ years and is identified with the club's success, but yuh have to recognize that the comparison yuh drawing between Mourinho and Ferguson, as far as class and football philosophy goes, might be influenced by your perspective as a Mourinho fan and a non-fan of Ferguson.


Nah, JDB, I think you're really overestimating my "bias" here.  I can appreciate the things that Jose has done for Chelsea as a coach while rejecting some of his behaviour.  I am not defending him blindly here.  In fact, I don't even think he should have won that "Coach of The Year" award from fifa, but that is for another discussion.  My bottom lines are that (1) manu and fergie gets away with more than their fair share of alot of shit and (2) they are not as great a team as their fans paint them to be.  That is not to be mistaken for elevating Chelsea or Jose to any higher comparative ground on anything, from morals to aesthetics to tactics.  I don't like Chelsea and/or/because I think they are the best team in Europe.  I like chelsea because I like them.   We could win the next three CL's in a row and I still wouldn't give them more credit that they are due. 
Wait were you not the same person who was crowing and calling/refering to Chelsea as a 'big side' because at the beginning of the season they were hitting side 6 and 7 and comparing that accomplishment with United's ability? So you want to say you are not bias but you sure as hell is fixated with United and your dislike for anything associated with United.Always comparing and quick to use United as an example. Like Arsene says everybody thinks their wife is the prettiest, because you say you don't overrate your team you have Chelsea fans who do. It happens, but you seem to get all worked up when it pertains to anything United. Want to see how many times before the season ends you will once again bring up Ferdinand and Evans and Vidic and all you think they have gotten away with. Take the needle off the record already!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2011, 09:32:53 PM
Just now I coming and quote de whole internet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 13, 2011, 04:03:38 AM
Wait were you not the same person who was crowing and calling/refering to Chelsea as a 'big side' because at the beginning of the season they were hitting side 6 and 7 and comparing that accomplishment with United's ability? So you want to say you are not bias but you sure as hell is fixated with United and your dislike for anything associated with United.Always comparing and quick to use United as an example. Like Arsene says everybody thinks their wife is the prettiest, because you say you don't overrate your team you have Chelsea fans who do. It happens, but you seem to get all worked up when it pertains to anything United. Want to see how many times before the season ends you will once again bring up Ferdinand and Evans and Vidic and all you think they have gotten away with. Take the needle off the record already!


I seem to recall me giving credit to an easy early schedule and declaring that we would be unstoppable
to win the title if we continued on that current form and took care of tougher opposition. I guess that would be
considered crowing coming from a manu fan but I would call it truth. Now, if along your travels you have come acros
some boorish, obnoxious, rude, unmannerly and sickeningly biased Chelsea fans, well, while I cannot speak for them
I can only suggest that do so may not like so and turnabout is fair play.  Have I compared my team to your team's abilities?
SURE I have and the comparisons in class are well justified, current form notwithstanding. Chelsea have had great players on
the roster for years even if we have underachieved.  Now, as far as my alleged "fixation" with your team, it's no secret that
I absolutely hate your team.  I probably have unborn descendants that already know I hate your team.  But......I
would be careful about throwing around accusations of a a fixation since I don't hate your team any more than you hate mine and, at the end of the day
(and maybe in the beginning, too) you can tell me more about how much Abramovic has spent on my team (and how much mancity's
owners have spent on theirs) than I can tell you how much the glazers have spent on yours.
 As far as the whole sentiment of manu getting more than their share of perceived bias from the officials and the FA, well, Giggsy,
that is a sentiment shared by many.  "Everybody" feels that the top 4/5 teams gets away with a lot of calls and "everybody" feels
that your team gets some plenty extra. I gave you one or two specific examples of some nasty fouls that should have been impossible to miss by
even the blindest of officials, followed by no after-action by the FA and I asked you to compare them to anything similar that my team (or any other,
for that matter) has GOTTEN AWAY WITH and I know you can't. I even gave you a head start.......and you haven't  So I will keep the needle on the record
until you do...and I might even mix it in with some more future bad calls/officials' bias in the future. 


Just now I coming and quote de whole internet.


Wouldn't be anything new.  Just another repeat performance.
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on January 13, 2011, 06:18:29 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
I absolutely love this guy! He just looks like he was born to play football; the natural!

  Home U.K. Home News  Ryan Giggs at 600! Manchester United's legendary star... by the men (and woman) who know him the best
By Ian Ladyman
Last updated at 1:33 AM on 15th January 2011
Comments (0) Add to My Stories Ryan Giggs will reach 600 league appearances for Manchester United if he plays at White Hart Lane on Sunday.
It is now more than 20 years since he signed a professional deal at Old Trafford and he has already played more games for the club than any other player, although he lies seven behind Sir Bobby Charlton in league appearances.
Ian Ladyman asks the people who know him best to pay tribute to the 37-year-old — and offer special insight into his remarkable career.
 

ERIC HARRISON
Manchester United youth coach
When Ryan was a teenager he was so quick and graceful. He was like a ballet dancer. He should have been on Dancing on Ice. I had never seen a young player like that and I had seen the Busby Babes. He took my breath away.
I used to kid myself that I didn’t want him to move to the first team but I was desperate for him to go really. I wanted him to show 60,000 people what he could do. The reason that Ryan has endured the
way he has is largely because of one thing: intelligence. Ryan is a deeply bright young man. He has
transformed that intelligence to the field and that has been the making of him in recent times.
As a younger player he used to get the ball and have two options in his head. He would either want to beat three men and cross the ball or beat three men and score. These days he has adapted and now his brain works quicker than his feet. He has learned to play more with his head up and is as astute a footballer as you will ever find. I watch him sometimes and my mouth still falls open.

BRYAN ROBSON
Former Manchester United captain
The first time I saw Giggsy he was playing for Salford Boys against United’s apprentices. He was thin and wiry but he just glided past four of our apprentices as if they weren’t even there, then he put the ball in the back of the net. I just thought: ‘This kid’s an absolute natural.’
The gaffer was watching from the office window and signed him up not long after that. He’s a great ambassador for the club and the game but he’s had his moments with the boss!
He once asked me if he should ask the gaffer for a car, soon after he’d made his debut. He went in to see him and we could hear the roar all the way down the corridor. The boss threw him out of the office and told him tocome back when he was a proper player.
It was great for the senior pros to have Giggsy around, though. When he came out after training all the girls would mob him and Lee Sharpe, and we could nip out the back door without anyone bothering us.

SIR ALEX FERGUSON
Manchester United manager
 First sighting: Giggs makes his United debut against Everton back in 1991
He is just an incredible human being and he defies logic. There is no other player who has done what he’s done or is ever likely to do it. He is an amazing man.
There is only one accolade that is yet to materialise for Ryan. How I would love to adorn my team sheet with the words ‘Sir Ryan Giggs’. And why not? After making 800 appearances for Manchester United, many of them in extremely high-pressure situations, doesn’t Ryan deserve it? Unquestionably he does, as much as any other sporting figure we have known in these islands.
If it happens, there’s no doubt his team-mates will take the mickey mercilessly, but behind the banter lies gigantic respect. When we won the Champions League in Moscow and Ryan broke Sir Bobby Charlton’s club appearance record, the players made a presentation to him and almost raised the roof as they sang: ‘That boy Giggsy — he’s won the league 10 times’.
He’s like a god in that dressing room, yet he has never stopped being accessible. He is always ready to help the young players with a word of advice. The first time I saw Ryan in a trial at The Cliff my jaw dropped. I was sure from that moment he would make the grade. Pretty soon I was going to see his parents a couple of times a week to impress on the boy to come to United instead of Manchester City.
We were such persistent visitors that in the end we were expected. I’ll always remember his mother
asking: ‘Now, shall we be seeing you again on Thursday?’
We threw him into a practice match against first-team players when he was only 14. He was up against Viv Anderson and he left him flailing. ‘Who the ******* hell is that?’ gasped Viv as he panted along in Ryan’s wa

LYNNE JOHNSON
Mother

When Sir Alex used to come to our house it was very daunting. He was just this famous man off the TV and there he was sitting on the settee drinking a cup of tea.
Ryan had been at City, of course, so I did go to them and say: ‘You have given him a chance but now
United have come along and offered him schoolboy forms.’ I said: ‘Can you offer him schoolboy forms?’ and they said no. That was a big mistake!
When I look at his international career, it’s strange that all the time England were crying out for a left winger. There were times when I wish we’d had the English family connections because it’s sad that he has never played at the World Cup finals. I think that with Ryan playing, England could have won the World Cup.
That famous night when Ryan was caught at a party at Lee Sharpe’s house, Mr Ferguson turned up because I told him. He was driving to a dinner in Preston at the time. He came back, called at Lee’s
house and we know what happened next.



JEREMY SPRIGG
UNICEF
Ryan has been involved with UNICEF since 1999 and showed such a commitment that in 2006 we made him an ambassador, following people like Roger Moore and Robbie Williams.
Last year he joined us for a trip to Sierra Leone for four days. This was not something he had to do. It was at some points harrowing, demanding and emotional for him but he wanted to do it. Ryan sat and talked to young men and women with AIDS. He would listen to people telling him that they had the virus when in some cases they hadn’t even told their own families.
On our long journeys back to the hotel, it was clear how the days had affected him. The thing about Ryan is that he is interested in people. He tells them the right things. He is intelligent and mature and incredibly important to us.


KEVIN RATCLIFFE
Former Wales and Everton captain
When Ryan first came into the Wales squad, he presented us with a problem straight away because he was too young to come out with us at night. He was only 17 and there was no way we were going to be able to smuggle him into a pub in Cardiff and hide him in the corner. He was far too famous for that, even then.
Ryan was the first footballer I ever saw turn up to games and training camps with his own Nintendo game. These days all the players have them but he was the first, which was a sign he was a bit of a
superstar.
I was actually playing for Everton when he made his United debut in 1991 and I was playing my last game for Wales when he scored his first international goal against Belgium in 1993. Afterwards I was pulled over for a TV interview and said: ‘At least I can tell my kids I played with Ryan Giggs.’ I wasn’t being flippant, either. It was obvious even then that this kid was going to be a big deal.
In training I used to hide to make sure I didn’t get matched up with him in the sprints. I had been quick but was on my way out. He has been a superb ambassador for the game in my home country. He
played with inferior players for many years and never complained.
Will he come back as manager? It’s early to say but he would be the people’s choice.

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 15, 2011, 07:16:06 AM
Giggsy11, thanks very much for this. Not a player in the league fit to lace his boots.
It's nice to read on a United thread, things about United instead of mindless vitriol.

Arise, Sir Ryan...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2011, 09:50:45 AM
Giggsy11, thanks very much for this. Not a player in the league fit to lace his boots.
It's nice to read on a United thread, things about United instead of mindless vitriol.

Arise, Sir Ryan...

Agreed! I was fortunate to see the visit to Sierra Lione on MUTV it was nice to see him interacting outside of a football setting. Seems like a real cool grounded brother!
 :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: che on January 16, 2011, 11:36:47 AM
We getting outplayed but I feel we will hit them on a counter.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2011, 11:46:43 AM
soft red card
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 16, 2011, 11:55:23 AM
Everybody draw today... no need to break the pattern  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on January 16, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
the red was deserved...raphael knew what he was doing....he got back up and purposely ran back and across the player.

it he had run straight back with the same speed he would have caught up with him.


edit* seeing the replay he was real guilty...he put up his hands just before he make contact.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
tough game , vidic is a boss
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 16, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Mike Dean is a c**t, Vidic is a God and United will win the league

No prem team other than United could have held off Spurs with a front 6 of Bale Modric VDV Lennon Crouch Defoe for 18 minutes with a makeshift RB and at the Lane in the form they are in... NONE

They created about 1 half chance in that time and we still looked dangerous on the break with 10 men...

We were poor today overall..couldnt get going...Spurs were excellent for a while

Top of the league.. 2 games in hand on City... keep the ball rolling

haters can f**k off

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 16, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
the red was deserved...raphael knew what he was doing....he got back up and purposely ran back and across the player.

it he had run straight back with the same speed he would have caught up with him.





well look I was goin' and give him the credit for maybe not doing that in this case that maybe it was unintentional this time.  I trust your judgement though.  Rooney was back to he ole  :cursing: self today boy. Lawd, dem refs does rel give he a long leash boy!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 16, 2011, 12:52:25 PM
Well fought game- Both teams figured eachother out pretty early and neutralized eachother well....

A little dosage of individual skill and creativity was needed to unlock the door on either side. 

Bale had some really nice touches, Modric was lively and Giggs' movement and running was superb, but the visionary pass or run was missing to open the game up.  The longer it stayed 0-0, the more predictable it got.  The ref tried to help open the game with a soft 2nd yellow...poor call it was, but by that time Man U had a defensive formation that was working and they just needed to switch around the personnel- they were never stretched. 

Man U's football is uninspiring for the neutral spectator this season (by their standards), but they are so well coached and disciplined, and have just the right amount of quality to keep getting results without every really giving a display of breathtaking football like they've done on occasion in past seasons... It's a bit disappointing because I usually enjoy watching them play. 

Giggs is class- what a player. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 16, 2011, 01:08:37 PM
Good result better than losing. Giggsy, Rafael, Vida and Ferdinand boss game. Rooney pullin stones when he plays and I think he is hurting the team when he has played this season. Rooney needs to come off the bench and give Chicharito a chance.
Spurs aint ready. Arry should have started Defoe; starting Crouch only played to Vidic's strengths. Plus Crouch= shithound! Lennon against Evra was more of a concern than Bale against Rafael.
 Rafael even though he got sent off had a good game; aggressive, skillful and determined play. Needs to pick his spots once he gets carded and not give the ref any opportunity to send him off. Nani never got into the game, Carrick and Fletcher made very basic mistakes that killed plays. Bale wants nothing with Rafael- Brazil's starting right back in 2014 WC! Giggsy=Legend!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 16, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Well fought game- Both teams figured eachother out pretty early and neutralized eachother well....

A little dosage of individual skill and creativity was needed to unlock the door on either side. 

Bale had some really nice touches, Modric was lively and Giggs' movement and running was superb, but the visionary pass or run was missing to open the game up.  The longer it stayed 0-0, the more predictable it got.  The ref tried to help open the game with a soft 2nd yellow...poor call it was, but by that time Man U had a defensive formation that was working and they just needed to switch around the personnel- they were never stretched. 

Man U's football is uninspiring for the neutral spectator this season (by their standards), but they are so well coached and disciplined, and have just the right amount of quality to keep getting results without every really giving a display of breathtaking football like they've done on occasion in past seasons... It's a bit disappointing because I usually enjoy watching them play. 

Giggs is class- what a player. 

Agreed 100%.. even last season we werent that impressive... we miss the drive of Ronaldo and Tevez and losing Hargreaves didnt help... luckily we have enough experience in our team to get the job done but we really need at least 2 world class players to bring back the Man United way of Football.. also since Quieroz left we've looked flat and boring

Maybe a technical staff change and a couple world class talents are needed to help us compete on all fronts while doing it playing well

Modric and Bale are a must for me.. but it will be very difficult to get them
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 17, 2011, 08:41:32 PM
Rafael could play this weekend wearing Fabio's jersey and nobody will be the wiser!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 17, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Rafael could play this weekend wearing Fabio's jersey and nobody will be the wiser!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
I think he should play Fabio- the young man needs games. He is actually is right footed but converted to left back so that Rafael could play rightback.

I'll put Rafael in there, and they wouldn't know... Fergie will pretend it's his twin, Fabio

 By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 1:19 PM on 21st January 2011

 Sir Alex Ferguson has joked he considered playing the suspended Rafael Da Silva this weekend - by pretending it's his twin brother Fabio.

The United defender is banned for one match after he was sent off in his side's 0-0 Barclays Premier League draw with Tottenham last weekend – a decision which infuriated Ferguson.

But when asked how he would fill the void for United's home clash with Birmingham on Saturday, the Scot was in jovial mood.   

'I might put Rafael in there,' Ferguson said. 'They wouldn't know [the difference]. Their DNA is probably the same.'

Rafael is waiting to hear if his one-match ban has been increased after he reacted furiously to his dismissal by referee Mike Dean last Sunday.
 
'You hope for common sense,' the United manager said regarding Rafael's Friday hearing. 'You hope that prevails. 

'It was a bad decision to send him off. In a big game it can have an impact, especially with 20 minutes left.'

Fabio, Wes Brown and John O'Shea are all in contention to fill the vacancy left by Rafael, with Ferguson also expected to make a couple of extra changes as his side look to retain top spot.

 
'Having to replace Rafael has given us something to consider, plus one or two other changes,' Ferguson said.

'Fabio could replace him. O'Shea and Brown also played for the reserves, so they are a consideration.'
 
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Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2011, 07:22:41 PM

 
Saturday 22 January 2011
Telegraph.co.uk 

Manchester United's Ryan Giggs and Rio Ferdinand buy into cutting-edge methods at Carrington
Manchester United’s attempt to reclaim the Premier League title is being bolstered by cutting-edge technology which includes GPS tracking of the players, zero-gravity rehabilitation and vitamin D beds.
 
By Mark Ogden 11:00PM GMT 21 Jan 2011
 

In a revelatory access-all-areas documentary by MUTV, the club’s in-house television channel, Ryan & Rio — Carrington Revealed, sheds light on the behind-the-scenes operation at Manchester United’s 108-acre Carrington training centre.

United are due to invest £11 million in a new sports science and medical facility at Carrington, which was opened in January 2000, later this year.

And with Sir Alex Ferguson’s squad given individual programmes and daily computerised data on their training performances, midfielder Ryan Giggs — who has confirmed his intention to sign a new one-year contract — admits that the attention to detail ensures that the players’ every move is now monitored and analysed.

“With all the stats that you get, you can’t hide,” Giggs said. “You can’t duck out of training or not work hard because it’s all monitored.

“We all have private programmes, so you get your clipboard and then monitor what you do every day. If you’re not working hard on a regular basis, you will get extra running or extra weights to make up for it.
United became the first Premier League club to adopt the GPS (Global Positioning System) tracking device last season.

Worn in training vests, the GPS tracker enables United’s sports science researcher, Robin Thorpe, to give an individual rundown of each player’s performance stats following training at Carrington.

Giggs said: “We wear heart-rate monitors to test how hard we are working and also the GPS devices. The GPS goes in the back, with the heart-rate monitor underneath.

“They show us how far we have run in training, what the intensity was like, how quick we have been. You can go into the sports science department after training and you can find out your data more or less straightaway.

“In the morning, the sports scientists will tell us what we are doing. After a game, they will put up the running that we have done compared to the other team — the distance we have covered, intensity etc. It’s interesting.”

Inside the first-team dressing room, Ferguson’s squad utilise ice baths and the vitamin D bed — similar to a walk-in sunbed — almost daily.

Garry Armer, a United masseur, said: “The tubes have been altered slightly, so it is purely for vitamin D. The players, particularly the dark-skinned players, have a programme whereby they build up their vitamin D. The black players don’t tend to absorb vitamin D as much, so they go on this. They go in for four or five minutes after training, about three times a week.”

United’s scientific approach is not unique in the Premier League. Bolton Wanderers, under Sam Allardyce, regularly used deep-freeze refrigeration technology on their players, with eye coaches and Tai Chi also adopted at the Reebok.

Ferguson has often credited his former assistant, Carlos Queiroz, with introducing futuristic methods at United, however, and Giggs admits that the treatment of injured players, in particular, has moved on incredibly since his debut in 1991.

“When I started, you would get treatment, have a bit of ice and go home,” He said. “But now, you are working a couple of days after being injured.

“The gravity-free treadmill is great, especially if you have an ankle injury or something similar because you don’t apply downward pressure.

“You just jump on to it, fasten the zips around you and then get in. It’s like being on the Moon apparently — it’s running, but it makes you float.

“There is an underwater treadmill, where you can get your running action back quickly because, in the water, you can run as hard as you want. There are cameras underneath the pool which monitor your foot pattern, to make sure that you’re not limping. There’s no escape!”

Training preparation begins with a 15-minute bike session, followed by a stint on the ‘Get Back’ mat — a giant Twister mat — aimed at boosting movement and co-ordination.

“You stand in front of the TV and different circles light up,” Giggs said. “When they light up, you have to get on to them as quickly as you can.”

Giggs’s adoption of yoga as part of his fitness routine has been followed by team-mates Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand, but the 37 year-old admits that relaxation is also a key aspect of the work done by United’s players at Carrington.

“The day after a game, it is all about relaxing,” He said. “We’ll go on the bikes for 15 minutes, have a stretch and then have a float in the deep-water pool, with maybe some weights.”

Computerised analysis of opponents, via the ProZone system, takes place in a room off limits to Ferguson’s squad, but Ferdinand insists that is the department which gives United the edge on the pitch.

“They’ve got square eyes in there,” Ferdinand said. “But it’s where all the magic happens.”







Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2011, 07:41:31 PM

 Ruud van Nistelrooy apologises to United's manager Sir Alex FergusonHamburg striker happy to end five-year rift with the Manchester United manager[ 

Daniel Taylor guardian.co.uk, Friday 21 January 2011 16.59
 
Ruud van Nistelrooy has sought to end his rift with Sir Alex Ferguson by making a personal apology to the Manchester United manager almost five years since their working relationship began to disintegrate and the bitterness eventually led to his departure.

Van Nistelrooy told Ferguson he regretted the way he had behaved – the Dutchman once had a fight with Cristiano Ronaldo on the club's training pitch and drove home after he was left out of the starting line-up against Charlton Athletic on the final day of the 2005-06 season – and admitted he had contributed to the reasons why Ferguson had decided he had to get rid of a striker who had scored 150 goals in his five seasons at Old Trafford.

Ferguson, in turn, told the Dutchman the matter was now finished and that he is happy to end a rift that ignited after he was omitted from the Carling Cup final line-up in February 2006, and had been smouldering ever since. "I was really pleased with that," Van Nistelrooy said. "I told him: 'Those five years at Manchester United were fantastic, and working with you, and it's really unfortunate what happened.' I'm really glad it's finished now."

Relations between the two men became so fractured at one point that when Van Nistelrooy moved to Real Madrid for £10.3m in 2006 he cited the tensions as the only reason he had left Old Trafford. Nonetheless, they were also key to each other's success during Van Nistelrooy's time in Manchester and, in an interview with the magazine Voetball International, the Dutchman explained why he had waited until now before contacting his former manager.

"I had been thinking about it for a while and talking it through with my wife," he said. "Two or three times every year I would think to myself what a shame it was that it had ended like it did with Ferguson. I wanted to do something about it.

"My wife suggested I sent Ferguson a text to see if he was willing to talk and when I sent him a message asking if I could ring him he replied to say: 'OK, call me at this date and time.' I rang him and he answered and said: 'OK, fine, go ahead.' I said I wanted to apologise for what had happened and he replied: 'Fine, I appreciate that, when we meet again it will be OK.' That was great to know."

Van Nistelrooy had established himself as the eighth-highest scorer in United's history when he left the club for Madrid. After three and a half years in Spain he signed for Hamburg last January but is now in talks about returning to the Bernabéu.

Now 34, the striker is acutely aware he is coming to the end of his career and made it clear he retains an affinity for the club where he established himself as the most prolific striker in the Premier League. "If I encounter Ferguson again – and I really hope that will happen – I will embrace him and then it will all be finished."

Ferguson may have settled one grudge but the manager retains another, against the referee Mike Dean for his sending off of Rafael da Silva in the goalless draw against Tottenham Hotspur last Sunday. Rafael was fined £8,000 todayafter admitting a Football Association charge of improper conduct relating to his reaction to the red card, but Ferguson believes the Brazilian was entitled to be aggrieved.

"I think everyone who watched the game agreed [the red card was unjust]. I think [the former referee] Dermot Gallagher said it was the worst decision of the week. Everyone knows it was a bad decision, but it happens. Unfortunately, in a game of that magnitude, it could have had a big impact. It didn't help us in terms of trying to go and win the game".




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2011, 09:48:19 AM
Rip dem to shreds  >:(  :flamethrower: half time  :devil:

3-0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2011, 10:12:36 AM
What a f*ckin goal! VDS-Rooney-Giggsy-Berba! Giggsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 22, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
Another hattrick for Nosferatu. Good performances by Anderson and Rooney. Arise, Sir Ryan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2011, 10:27:46 AM
UTD playing with they food now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Another hattrick for Nosferatu. Good performances by Anderson and Rooney. Arise, Sir Ryan

Smalling has been very impressive-showing great hops and passing range. Nani having one of his extra games.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 22, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
Nani are you OK, Are you OK Nani?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2011, 10:36:08 AM
5 now  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 22, 2011, 10:37:25 AM
should have been 9 Nani is too greedy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Nani are you OK, Are you OK Nani?

 :rotfl:  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: He finally got his! That guy strong mind boy, he get so much boof and he keep on keepin on until he got his. That last play where he blast over the net instead of squaring to Berba was opposite of the play he made against Blackburn to set Berba up for his fourth.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2011, 10:53:54 AM
1 :whip: 2 :whip: 3 :whip: 4 :whip: 5 :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 22, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
me eh no Man U hater, I eh no man U lover, but they real dismantle Birm breds...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2011, 11:01:11 AM
Good performance... some nice play... Rooney Berba Giggs had top class games... The rest did well.. Nani yes.. the commentator put it perfect.." Can Illuminate and Infuriate"...  good goal though...

Blackpool away on Tuesday.. 3 big points up for grabs

Let's have it!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
3 points clear of City with 2 games in hand....

and they were top of the league last weekend and singing...  :rotfl:

OHHHHH CITY ARE A MASSIVE CLUB
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2011, 05:14:45 PM
For all the Ghana lovers

Suarez sightings in Manchester around the training base etc...

I would welcome this...I think its just rumours but he can play a wing or behind the main striker.. will add to the creativity and attackign power... I doubt Fergie will buy him as a striker... Winger for sure in a 4-4-2 and 4-3-3

I doubt it's true but I'd take him in a heartbeat

I think we should bring in someone before the close of the Window...  CM seems to be ok till then end.. Scholes, Ando, Fletch, Carrick and Gibbo with Giggsy being an option as well

Wings looking a bit suspect with Valencia out, Giggsy's age and just Park and Nani to depend on...

If we dont bring in someone so be it but 1 player can help us push on and compete on the 3 quests for glory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on January 24, 2011, 08:43:14 AM
Not again! Now BBC sports presenter does a Naughtie while introducing Eric c**tona live on air

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349066/BBC-presenter-Olly-Foster-Eric-Cantona-slip-live-air.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

http://www.youtube.com/v/A9gD4OX0gVk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 25, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
bump ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 25, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
Charlie Adam stock just went up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
bump ;)

 :rotfl: u bumping thread now?, why u didnt bump chelsea thread when it was lost  :devil:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 25, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
what yuh have to do to win a penalty against Man U in dis league boy?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 25, 2011, 02:55:07 PM
bump ;)

 :rotfl: u bumping thread now?, why u didnt bump chelsea thread when it was lost  :devil:



lol, i am pretty much de only one still posting over there....

but doh study it, we back on track, and yall lookin lil nervous  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 25, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
off sides too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 03:05:10 PM
but doh study it, we back on track, and yall lookin lil nervous  :devil:

yeh we just equalized  :devil:  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 25, 2011, 03:05:48 PM
bump ;)
Thanks for bumping lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 25, 2011, 03:06:14 PM
bump ;)

 :rotfl: u bumping thread now?, why u didnt bump chelsea thread when it was lost  :devil:



lol, i am pretty much de only one still posting over there....

but doh study it, we back on track, and yall lookin lil nervous  :devil:

yeh we just equalized  :devil:  :beermug:

steups lol

i goin 2 jumbie de arsenal thread instead  ;D

edit - i had 2 delete muh post in dat thread too  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 25, 2011, 03:06:44 PM
but doh study it, we back on track, and yall lookin lil nervous  :devil:

yeh we just equalized  :devil:  :beermug:

the first goal was offsides and allyuh get away with a foul de ref eh blow for
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
 :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 25, 2011, 03:10:39 PM
suckers  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 25, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
what yuh have to do to win a penalty against Man U in dis league boy?
That was not a penalty. I thought it was too, but after watching the replay, I saw no harm in the play from Rafael.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 03:18:00 PM
goal 3-2  :salute: :salute: :salute: :whip: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:

BEEEERRRRRRRRRBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 25, 2011, 03:18:56 PM
It's what champions are made of...... :applause: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 03:30:58 PM
 :cheers: :cheers: WHAT A GAME ! 3 POINTS after 2nil down  :beermug: ;D  :whip:

f**k yeh!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 25, 2011, 03:39:14 PM
Berbatov is a real facking dog boy.... steups... real sh!t....

and everyfackingbody else have him... captain too he muddacnut
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on January 25, 2011, 03:48:59 PM
Berbatov is a real facking dog boy.... steups... real sh!t....

and everyfackingbody else have him... captain too he muddacnut
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Berbatov as captain almost outscore yuh whole team  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 25, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Berbatov is a real facking dog boy.... steups... real sh!t....

and everyfackingbody else have him... captain too he muddacnut
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Berbatov as captain almost outscore yuh whole team  :rotfl:

well he ent get de bonus points for dis game yet.. so hold off

and everytime single blasted time ah put he as captain... 2 points...

no facking lie... steups...  >:( aaarggjh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on January 25, 2011, 04:43:40 PM
what yuh have to do to win a penalty against Man U in dis league boy?
That was not a penalty. I thought it was too, but after watching the replay, I saw no harm in the play from Rafael.

yuhy mad, de man made NO attempt to play the ball, while the other player had control
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on January 25, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Wha de ass happen out there today boy?
Steups.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 25, 2011, 05:07:47 PM
Berba  :notworthy: I apologise, you and Hernandez saving our arse this year!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 25, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
Berbatov is a real facking dog boy.... steups... real sh!t....

and everyfackingbody else have him... captain too he muddacnut
4 real that muddersoanso!! Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 06:47:45 PM
Hallmark of Champions

I love my club
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 25, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
what yuh have to do to win a penalty against Man U in dis league boy?
That was not a penalty. I thought it was too, but after watching the replay, I saw no harm in the play from Rafael.
harm? wtf you talking about harm? if the kid played the ball and not the man i would say no foul

BUT

he played the man first

by the LAWS of the game a penalty
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 07:19:14 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...




 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 25, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...
tsk tsk what straws manu fans will grasp at then present as facts, allyuh lucky that penalty wasn't called

BUT

thats not to say they would have converted it

AND

you lot had to still work to get the 3 points

you have to agree manu do have the rub of the green more frequently than most
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 25, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
Giggsy boi! Trap-pass-goal; goal #2! No sweat!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 25, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
Giggsy boi! Trap-pass-goal; goal #2! No sweat!

We shall not be moved...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 25, 2011, 08:59:39 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...




 

 I like your use of the word "collision"....it's only a "collision" when two men going after a FREE ball...but when a man runing into your box WITH the ball and a defender just come and knock the man off the ball without even trying to go after the ball, then it's a foul.  I am convinced the refs fraid allyuh side and allyuh manager.....   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 25, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
Giggsy boi! Trap-pass-goal; goal #2! No sweat!

We shall not be moved...

Once Gibson does not start or only get coubeaux sweat we good! Lord that boy dos look and play useless! Park, Valencia, even Carrick and Hargo can't come back fast enough. That guy just preparing to play for whatever side Fergie's son managing or Big Sam.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
Chow I hear ya.. but I would have found it soft had we won a penalty like that...I honestly do not think Rafael intentionally bundled Varney over... I think it was a good old fashion shoulder charge ... it's not a girl's game(copyright Andy Gray)

And to answer Gunner Stunner and everyone else's claim that we get calls and benefits... then I'd say yes I agree.. its well earned too.. Champion's luck ... I wouldnt say we are so far ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea in the benefits from Refs though..I actually think everyone over analyze anything United get and when we get robbed no one makes a peep... but when Chelsea or Arsenal get a shit penalty or offside goal.. not a peep

But I am used to it now... Obsession with United and sheer hatred... because we are the best.. it's understandable

ENJOY THE SHOW
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 09:29:06 PM
it's not a girl's game(copyright Andy Gray)

As you mention that , i see he get fired for some sexist statements, he thought he mic was off lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 25, 2011, 09:35:34 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...




 

This ent really have nutten to do with nutten, but as an aside: 

I know yuh love yuh ManU forums; and love to affect the way the English speak, but yuh might want to rethink yuh liberal application of the term "boy" when addressing these grown men.  If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF, particularly as it applies to non-whites, yuh might better understand why some find it offensive.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 25, 2011, 09:37:55 PM
Chow I hear ya.. but I would have found it soft had we won a penalty like that...I honestly do not think Rafael intentionally bundled Varney over... I think it was a good old fashion shoulder charge ... it's not a girl's game(copyright Andy Gray)

And to answer Gunner Stunner and everyone else's claim that we get calls and benefits... then I'd say yes I agree.. its well earned too.. Champion's luck ... I wouldnt say we are so far ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea in the benefits from Refs though..I actually think everyone over analyze anything United get and when we get robbed no one makes a peep... but when Chelsea or Arsenal get a shit penalty or offside goal.. not a peep

But I am used to it now... Obsession with United and sheer hatred... because we are the best.. it's understandable

ENJOY THE SHOW

Small Mag....a foul does not have to be "intentional" for it to be a foul and whatever you consider to be "soft" has nothing to do with the rules.  (even though, I don't recall you coming out and saying the penalty against liverpool was "soft" though, but I stand corrected if I missed it.)  But anyhow, watch the highlights form the Asian Cup Semi-Final between Japan and South Korea.  You will see that a defender from each team did practically the same dam ting rafael did and both were penalized: 1 penalty per team.  (and these are the men playing, not the girls)   Also.....as far as only being slightly ahead of Chelsea and arsenal in Refs' Benefits?.....allyuh is light years ahead of any and all competition, Chelsea included.   We couldn't reach allyuh if we were sunlight.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 25, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
Chow I hear ya.. but I would have found it soft had we won a penalty like that...I honestly do not think Rafael intentionally bundled Varney over... I think it was a good old fashion shoulder charge ... it's not a girl's game(copyright Andy Gray)

And to answer Gunner Stunner and everyone else's claim that we get calls and benefits... then I'd say yes I agree.. its well earned too.. Champion's luck ... I wouldnt say we are so far ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea in the benefits from Refs though..I actually think everyone over analyze anything United get and when we get robbed no one makes a peep... but when Chelsea or Arsenal get a shit penalty or offside goal.. not a peep

But I am used to it now... Obsession with United and sheer hatred... because we are the best.. it's understandable

ENJOY THE SHOW

over analyze?? what red drug you smoking? when a player gets mugged in broad flood lights infront of cameras and witnesses and then you turn around and point the fingers elsewhere?

its not just the luck on calls that go your way but luck on calls that literally can draw a direct line to you guys winning a season or not be it by the points gained or momentum

that said no one put the ball in the back of the next but you guys

i can tell you the opposite for arsenal and you will say i am crying over spilled milk, like when Liverpool got a penalty that sent arsenal out of champs league

the difference i can see and its undisputed manu take hold of advantages placed before them, arsenal are yet to show they can do that everytime, this season alone there are three games i would say we failed to do that, and it would be at manu chelski and when spurs were at emirates i think it was a case of arsenal beating themselves or not turning up for the occassion rather than being out played
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 10:10:42 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...




 

This ent really have nutten to do with nutten, but as an aside: 

I know yuh love yuh ManU forums; and love to affect the way the English speak, but yuh might want to rethink yuh liberal application of the term "boy" when addressing these grown men.  If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF, particularly as it applies to non-whites, yuh might better understand why some find it offensive.

what lol?

You are real heights yes... "If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF"? you implying he is a racist with many mixed and black players on our team? and little boy is racist statement?

my liberal application lol.. boy I never hear such shit in my life on a forum ... I saying my boy Rafael is a tough kid and you come with this shit?  lay off the crack boss







Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 25, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
Its all a big conspiracy involving referees, linesmen, owners, managers, players and heck even the balls to keep Utd on top I tell ya!

Damn those balls.......they does always go in the opposite goal of Utd....damn damn damn!!!
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 25, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
I find that would have been a soft call... Old fashioned man to man... Rafael is one strong little boy... he barely move when both of them collided...




 

This ent really have nutten to do with nutten, but as an aside: 

I know yuh love yuh ManU forums; and love to affect the way the English speak, but yuh might want to rethink yuh liberal application of the term "boy" when addressing these grown men.  If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF, particularly as it applies to non-whites, yuh might better understand why some find it offensive.

what lol?

You are real heights yes... "If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF"? you implying he is a racist with many mixed and black players on our team? and little boy is racist statement?

my liberal application lol.. boy I never hear such shit in my life on a forum ... I saying my boy Rafael is a tough kid and you come with this shit?  lay off the crack boss









doh study that, he does refer to he son as little girl.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 10:14:31 PM
Chow and Stunner... how about we list every call our team get away with or get till the end of the season okay  ::)... and i bet the overall number will be close at seasons end...  opinions opinions opinions

ENJOY THE SHOW

We'll do what we want, we'll do what we want, we are Man United, we'll do what we want

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on January 25, 2011, 10:25:17 PM
Chow and Stunner... how about we list every call our team get away with or get till the end of the season okay  ::)... and i bet the overall number will be close at seasons end...  opinions opinions opinions

ENJOY THE SHOW

We'll do what we want, we'll do what we want, we are Man United, we'll do what we want


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

you good yes better odds to roll for the future rather than the facts in the past like rooneys DIVES against arsenal, carrolls SAVE vs spurs, the extra extra extra time added on during manu games (that is fact will have to pull up the stats and show you but its has been proven by a few British newspapers)

but sure thing kiddo boy lad yute make a side thread, and we wont debate just simply enter the incident details what game grounds refferee the call etc raw data then end of season sort it out

doubt either team will get any from now on murphys law

i wouldnt say blackppol getting/notgetting the penalty was a game changer but it certainly would have been a bigger mountain to climb, like i said you lot had to come back into the game blackpool failed to defend thier lead in the second half

truely an example of a game of two halves, blackpool won the first game (half) 2-0 and manu the second 3-0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 25, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Chow and Stunner... how about we list every call our team get away with or get till the end of the season okay  ::)... and i bet the overall number will be close at seasons end...  opinions opinions opinions

ENJOY THE SHOW

We'll do what we want, we'll do what we want, we are Man United, we'll do what we want


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

you good yes better odds to roll for the future rather than the facts in the past like rooneys DIVES against arsenal, carrolls SAVE vs spurs, the extra extra extra time added on during manu games (that is fact will have to pull up the stats and show you but its has been proven by a few British newspapers)

but sure thing kiddo boy lad yute make a side thread, and we wont debate just simply enter the incident details what game grounds refferee the call etc raw data then end of season sort it out

doubt either team will get any from now on murphys law

i wouldnt say blackppol getting/notgetting the penalty was a game changer but it certainly would have been a bigger mountain to climb, like i said you lot had to come back into the game blackpool failed to defend thier lead in the second half

truely an example of a game of two halves, blackpool won the first game (half) 2-0 and manu the second 3-0

Na it was just a suggestion for the obsessed to do... I will surely add my thoughts to it as my part of the deal should one of the obssessers decide to make it

And congrats on your semi win today... I wish it was us to be facing you guys in the final to keep the pain of no silverware going... hopefully either Birmingham or West Ham can do a job.. but I highly doubt it... enjoy that..and once again...ENJOY THE SHOW  ;D ;)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2011, 10:45:18 PM
Well yes, all the refs in the EPL we pay off, things nice  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 26, 2011, 01:42:34 AM
what lol?

You are real heights yes... "If you understood the history and context of that usage by men like yuh saint SAF"? you implying he is a racist with many mixed and black players on our team? and little boy is racist statement?

my liberal application lol.. boy I never hear such shit in my life on a forum ... I saying my boy Rafael is a tough kid and you come with this shit?  lay off the crack boss









The slave master had many prized slaves as well... as long as they did their jobs the massa was content.  Having "mixed and black" players on a team doesn't negate the possibility that SAF is racist.  Besides, I never accused him of racism... one can harbor biases and perspectives that are racist without being racist oneself.  anyways, you're an unsophisticated grunt with very little by way of real world experience outside of the privileged little bubble in which you were raised.  I don't expect you to understand the point being made.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 26, 2011, 10:17:13 AM
This just in, SAF was just spotted with every BPL referee having lunch and paying them off for the rest of the season, he even threw in a bottle of wine to nice things up. Place all bets on Man.U to win the league, it's a done deal.

Rumour has it, he is even talking to UEFA refs about a similar package deal.

There you have it boys and girls, no need to bring that up anymore when Man.U wins. It's old news now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 26, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
This just in, SAF was just spotted with every BPL referee having lunch and paying them off for the rest of the season, he even threw in a bottle of wine to nice things up. Place all bets on Man.U to win the league, it's a done deal.

Rumour has it, he is even talking to UEFA refs about a similar package deal.

There you have it boys and girls, no need to bring that up anymore when Man.U wins. It's old news now.


You serious man? I am so f*ckin disappointed to read that. That is so damn unfair, at least tell me that none of the balls we play with are also involved!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 26, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
This just in, SAF was just spotted with every BPL referee having lunch and paying them off for the rest of the season, he even threw in a bottle of wine to nice things up. Place all bets on Man.U to win the league, it's a done deal.

Rumour has it, he is even talking to UEFA refs about a similar package deal.

There you have it boys and girls, no need to bring that up anymore when Man.U wins. It's old news now.


You serious man? I am so f*ckin disappointed to read that. That is so damn unfair, at least tell me that none of the balls we play with are also involved!
The forum Man.U hater conspiracy was right all this time. I owe them an apology from the bottom of my (I just gone done playing football sweaty balls). I have not heard anything about the balls being apart of this corruption fergie has going on. I won't be surprised if they are some how involved!!!  If they are I just hope fergie is fair to them and throw in a bottle of wine aswell.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on January 29, 2011, 11:14:18 AM
Way sah...we get boots to the second page so I had to put us back on top LOL :devil: :devil: :devil:

MAN U 4 EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 29, 2011, 12:42:04 PM
owennnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 29, 2011, 01:31:56 PM
Shocking 1st half... poor formation and players out of position... Gibson was ultra shit today(again) and Obertan was poor until he went to RW

Great desire to get back into it.. and credit to Southampton for being quite tidy and playing well.. good passing team

Owen was tops today for me and Chicharito is the find of the season..I love that kid

Giggsy and Nani helped the cause and our desire looks good

Bring on Villa ... huge game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 29, 2011, 02:04:47 PM
Shocking 1st half... poor formation and players out of position... Gibson was ultra shit today(again) and Obertan was poor until he went to RW

Great desire to get back into it.. and credit to Southampton for being quite tidy and playing well.. good passing team

Owen was tops today for me and Chicharito is the find of the season..I love that kid

Giggsy and Nani helped the cause and our desire looks good

Bring on Villa ... huge game
Spot on small Mag!! I can't stand it when Gibson starts, and Evans was showing signs of becoming a good player, but lately he looks like a newbie defender.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
It would be nice if we could keep Owen next season. He has done a good job of adapting and adjusting his game to still be affective. He dropping deeper and makes a nice pass when he has the opportunity. He also can help Hernandez to continue developing as a striker. I feel Gibson only still around cause we lacking bodies in midfield for now. Rooney to midfield next season ( let him buss his arse from box tuh box) or sell his arse! Berba, Wellbeck, Hernandez, Owen. Machada might end up staying in Italy, I feel he need a good full season under his belt to mature physically and mentally. Cleverly and Rooney (if he stays) to replace Gibson, Carrick and Scholes. Still need a creative midfielder and winger. We should have two players per position as well as speed all over the field; we need to start attacking with speed again!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on January 29, 2011, 02:52:22 PM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 29, 2011, 03:00:04 PM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   

I hope you speaking about Giggsy11 analysis and not mine... because Gibson made his 50th appearance for United today and has impressed in about 5... he has no football brain, cant pass and his defending is shabby..he seems out of his league

He got 50 chances and enough is enough..he is not Manchester United material..

Obertan on the fence but he is from another league and country and is still a kid.. he has potential but he is wasting it in the opportunities he is getting.... Evans too.. these boys need to stop messing around and grab their chances

We have alot of young kids in the team... Hernandez is a gem, Rafael is a boss this season and Nani and Anderson improved alot... Smalling is coming along well as is Fabio.... Evans, Gibbo, Obertan and Bebe need to pick it up fast or move along

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
This is a couple of fans' description/opinion of Gibson in a Guardian article-

"Cannot stand Gibson, I'm a little self doubting because I remember Fletcher struggled for years to fulfil his potential, but still he wasn't this bad surely?"

"As poor as Fletcher was, he always had energy and stamina. Gibson is like having an old wooden cupboard in midfield than can occasionally score a screamer if the wind blows just right and its door swings at the ball."
LOL!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   

What the hell you going on about? I don't know who you support but you can have Gibson for your team if you want him. Yeah this United side winning but it has been the poorest side in years, the style of play has dropped off and the overall quality is lacking. We need more creative players in midfield and more depth on the wings. People complain when we rate the side up to much and now you complianing when statements are made regarding shortcomings. Can't win on this forum!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 29, 2011, 08:26:36 PM
u know i watch owen play sometimes eh, he is a rel opportunist, very deadly striker. If that fellah was not so injury prone, he would be a VERY Dangerous marksman , plenty talent. i does feel sad when he does get injured  :(. hope he stay fit , would not want him to leave yet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on January 29, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   

What the hell you going on about? I don't know who you support but you can have Gibson for your team if you want him. Yeah this United side winning but it has been the poorest side in years, the style of play has dropped off and the overall quality is lacking. We need more creative players in midfield and more depth on the wings. People complain when we rate the side up to much and now you complianing when statements are made regarding shortcomings. Can't win on this forum!
      I am not about people,i'm about Football,how we expect players to be sitting on a Bench or even off a team for weeks sometimes months to just appear in a game or given 15 mins and perform like they playing on a regular basis.Which team has a quality supporting player for every position?even Barcelona don't do the things Fergie does do,they are consistent with their starting team all the time,you ever see they take of Messi or don't start him once he is fit? 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2011, 09:46:16 AM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   

What the hell you going on about? I don't know who you support but you can have Gibson for your team if you want him. Yeah this United side winning but it has been the poorest side in years, the style of play has dropped off and the overall quality is lacking. We need more creative players in midfield and more depth on the wings. People complain when we rate the side up to much and now you complianing when statements are made regarding shortcomings. Can't win on this forum!
      I am not about people,i'm about Football,how we expect players to be sitting on a Bench or even off a team for weeks sometimes months to just appear in a game or given 15 mins and perform like they playing on a regular basis.Which team has a quality supporting player for every position?even Barcelona don't do the things Fergie does do,they are consistent with their starting team all the time,you ever see they take of Messi or don't start him once he is fit? 

I understand your point of view but that does not apply to Gibson. he has started games as well as come on as a sub. He usually ends up getting subbed due him being inefective. He appears to bring very little to the team except for a big shot out of midfield. He doesn't appear to be able to keep up mentally or physically with the play and at times it looks like we are playing with 10 instead of 11. Actually Fergie rotates his squad a lot and we have had quality subs in the past for each position. This year has been different and it shows when a Giggsy, Nani, Scholes, Park, Rafael doesn't start. The quality of play drops off drastictly.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2011, 10:28:34 AM
FA Cup RO16 Draw:

Man United vs Crawley Town....  that real nice for Crawley..non league team going to OT...magic of the FA Cup... wouldnt be underestimating them either... should be a very good game

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on January 30, 2011, 12:13:58 PM
What i can't understand with some of you,Man U winning and alyu does be talking so much crap,i could imagine if they was loosing,every player has a role to play and i think they are playing it well,Fergie is doing his thing and it's working,regardless to who the man buy or let go he makes good decisions,somewhere down the road these players does prove they are worth the money they were bought for,alyu want big name players who only disappointing teams all over the place,they change teams they eh worth anything,if teams can develop players like Fergie and Arsen does they will always be a force to recon with,just give players time and you will see how they blossom.   

What the hell you going on about? I don't know who you support but you can have Gibson for your team if you want him. Yeah this United side winning but it has been the poorest side in years, the style of play has dropped off and the overall quality is lacking. We need more creative players in midfield and more depth on the wings. People complain when we rate the side up to much and now you complianing when statements are made regarding shortcomings. Can't win on this forum!
      I am not about people,i'm about Football,how we expect players to be sitting on a Bench or even off a team for weeks sometimes months to just appear in a game or given 15 mins and perform like they playing on a regular basis.Which team has a quality supporting player for every position?even Barcelona don't do the things Fergie does do,they are consistent with their starting team all the time,you ever see they take of Messi or don't start him once he is fit? 

I understand your point of view but that does not apply to Gibson. he has started games as well as come on as a sub. He usually ends up getting subbed due him being inefective. He appears to bring very little to the team except for a big shot out of midfield. He doesn't appear to be able to keep up mentally or physically with the play and at times it looks like we are playing with 10 instead of 11. Actually Fergie rotates his squad a lot and we have had quality subs in the past for each position. This year has been different and it shows when a Giggsy, Nani, Scholes, Park, Rafael doesn't start. The quality of play drops off drastictly.  :beermug:
   I hear yu. :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 30, 2011, 01:02:25 PM
Ferguson knows best and Gibson playing for him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 31, 2011, 11:28:56 AM
According to SSN , United ready to match any bid from Liverpool for Adam of Blackpool (10 million pounds)

The plot thickens.. unconfirmed reports of course but SSN has credible sources
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
Rooney hit a wicked shot on d half volley yes  :o nice goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
oh gaadd nani with a bess cross, rooney with d tap in. 2nil , villa getting brushed aside like they not even playing lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 01, 2011, 02:48:52 PM
Get yourself a hat trick Wayne!

United in cruise control
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on February 01, 2011, 03:21:38 PM
vidaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 01, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Nani eh play he greedy.....stupessss.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 01, 2011, 05:56:43 PM
Nice win by the boys. Everybody did their jobs well.  Nani is a better crosser than Ronaldo whereas I think Ronaldo is a better goal scorer. It seems Nani like to toy with people when he dribbles and feels like once he set up a few or one he deserves to score one for him self. Still love him even when he doesn't share , you go get yours boy as long as we winning! I want to see if his game changes when Valencia returns since he had problem playing on the left before, maybe Valencia has been working to strengthen that left peg. it will be nice to have four healthy wingers again. Roonay played like getting subbed lit a fire under his arse.
Giggsy as usual went thru the gears!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 01, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Stop the presses Fergie just referred to Roonay as "the boy" while commenting on Roonay's efforts in the match!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 01, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
Stop the presses Fergie just referred to Roonay as "the boy" while commenting on Roonay's efforts in the match!

next thing haters calling fergie racist
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2011, 06:44:42 PM
that racist mudder so and so




 ::)



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 01, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
How dare Alex Ferguson use the term "the boy" to every player on United that is white, brown or any other colour... doesnt he know it is wrong and the "liberal application" is very racist

Dwight Yorke was a saint during his time, especially that last season before that bloody racist kicked him out.. Yorkie did nothing at all wrong, nothing!

This Sir Alex Ferguson... let him say "the boy" to me ever, let him! I will sit him down and school him on the art of sophistication while eating caviar and drinking the finest wine


The Boy and Me- Written by Bakes ( the only sophisticated Scouser)






Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 01, 2011, 09:32:09 PM
Y'all are the worst ever....SMH.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 02, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
Bye neville, dont let the door hit u. Like man u's lack of ambition finally got 2 him ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 02, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
Bye neville, dont let the door hit u. Like man u's lack of ambition finally got 2 him ;D

f**k you... maybe your money hungry disloyal joke of a club player's should learn from Neville , Giggs and Scholes


Thank you Red Nev for your massive contribution over the last 2 decades... a true red, a true leader and a true legend

GARY NEVILLE IS A RED
IS A RED
IS A RED
GARY NEVILLE IS A RED
HE HATES THE SCOUSERS


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 02, 2011, 01:27:04 PM
More to the point...

Farewell Gaz Nev. A servant to Club and coutry...

Gary Neville announces retirement from football with immediate effect

• Manchester United defender quits after 20 years at Old Trafford
• 'It's knowing when that time is and for me that time is now'


Gary Neville Gary Neville has called time on his playing career at the age of 35. Photograph: Martin Rickett/PA Wire/Press Association Images

Gary Neville has announced his retirement from the game with immediate effect.

The 35-year-old Manchester United full-back has not played since the New Year's Day victory at West Brom, when he was fortunate not to be dismissed for a professional foul on Graham Dorrans. It was his 602nd appearance for United. He also won 85 England caps.

"I have been a Manchester United fan all my life and fulfilled every dream I've ever had," he said. "Obviously I am disappointed that my playing days are at an end, however it comes to us all, and it's knowing when that time is and for me that time is now.

"I have played in the most incredible football teams, playing with some of the best players in the world as well as against them and I have been lucky to be a part of the team's achievements and the club's great success.

"There are so many people I want to thank and of course top of that list is Sir Alex Ferguson. He has given me so many opportunities and countless support over the last 20 years, he is truly one of the greatest managers and I have to thank him for that.

"There have also been so many great players that I have had the privilege to train and play along side. The experiences we've shared will be with me for the rest of my life.

"Also all the coaches I have played under from youth level right through to now, who have guided me through my playing days. And finally, the fans, who have always shown me unbelievable support, they know how special they are to me and this club.

"I am looking forward to new experiences and the club will always be a part of my life going forward however the most important thing now is for the club to continue with the success that is synonymous with Manchester United and I will be supporting them all the way, as a fan."

It will be interesting to see what direction Neville's career now takes. He has long been touted as a potential coach at United and was mentioned as a possible successor to the reserve team manager, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who has returned to Norway to take charge at Molde. There is also speculation he could become a television pundit.

"Gary was the best English right-back of his generation," Ferguson said. "He is an example to any young professional; hard-working, loyal and intelligent. As a United fan born and bred, his fantastic career at Old Trafford has cemented his place in the affection of the club's supporters everywhere.

"His impact on the club in general has been huge; his presence in the dressing room and leadership qualities have been an asset to me as a manager. All the young players who have sought his advice on many matters, particularly on contract issues owe him a great debt.

"As a young boy he had the will and determination to succeed as a footballer and that character remained with him throughout his career which is the legacy he leaves every young player at Manchester United."

Neville's career has been blighted by injury over the last few years and it was obvious at the West Brom game, or the visit to Stoke in October when the full-back was equally fortunate to escape a red card, that his time at the top level was almost over.

"Gary has been a great servant to the club and we thank him for his loyalty and his contribution to the tremendous success we have enjoyed in his playing time here," said the chief executive, David Gill.

"I know from my many dealings with him over the years he always had the club's best interests at heart. So whilst this illustrious chapter in his career has finished, his experience, commitment and energy will ensure he will continue to play a part in the life of the club, whether on the coaching or the commercial side."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 02, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
I'm so glad I've seen the 3 living legends grace the field at Old Trafford live...

Red Nev still has a role at United.. many think he'll get the reserves job and keep on diong his badges... Fergie's already tipped him to be a good manager in the future.. he says his man management skills are great already always looking after the kids
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 02, 2011, 01:36:36 PM
 :applause: :applause:

Good Luck and Thank you Gary
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 02, 2011, 03:09:02 PM
so the question is: is Gary Nevile JIH?  :thinking:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2011, 03:11:48 PM
Happy trails Gary!  :applause: :applause: :applause: One of the last remaining loyal ones! Hope you continue to have a role at the club to keep showing the newcomers what one needs to be a Manchester United player!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2011, 03:12:34 PM
Gary to coach T & T?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 04, 2011, 10:07:33 PM
Fantastic piece on Berba... for all those who supported him from day 1

http://www.stretford-end.com/blog/2011/02/berbaflop-or-berbarotica-the-essential-analysis/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 04, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
Y'all are the worst ever....SMH.

You have time with Small Fag and the rest of the testicle Tarzans?  At least he provides a chuckle with his wanna-be Brit, ManU board nursery rhymes.


------------------------------

Well-done Gary Neville... good player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2011, 05:39:21 AM
go drink some wine and have some caviar... your sophistication is too much for this thread..we cant handle it

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2011, 08:49:25 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: waaay them haters is rel kicks yes. lawd  ::) ,

anyway look some links for todays game
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=103738&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2011, 09:06:30 AM
gary neville was "effective", but he wasn't all that "good". He was just another overrated British/manu player (like fletcher and johnny evans) that mastered the art of brutish, british play and walked the fine line between legal and illegal play.  One thing I have to give fergie credit for....he could make men that couldn't even be a ball boy in any of the other so-called significant leagues look like megastar world-beaters in the EPL.  Good riddance, beeeeyotch!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2011, 09:31:27 AM
gary neville was "effective", but he wasn't all that "good". He was just another overrated British/manu player (like fletcher and johnny evans) that mastered the art of brutish, british play and walked the fine line between legal and illegal play.  One thing I have to give fergie credit for....he could make men that couldn't even be a ball boy in any of the other so-called significant leagues look like megastar world-beaters in the EPL.  Good riddance, beeeeyotch!  :devil:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Hate much?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 05, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
gary neville was "effective", but he wasn't all that "good". He was just another overrated British/manu player (like fletcher and johnny evans) that mastered the art of brutish, british play and walked the fine line between legal and illegal play.  One thing I have to give fergie credit for....he could make men that couldn't even be a ball boy in any of the other so-called significant leagues look like megastar world-beaters in the EPL.  Good riddance, beeeeyotch!  :devil:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Hate much?  :devil:

...when it come to allyuh side, "HATE" is my middle name!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2011, 11:33:32 AM
Goal in yuh ass , 1 nil 3 min in. NANI
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on February 05, 2011, 11:44:51 AM
Goal in yuh ass , 1 nil 3 min in. NANI

Goal in yuh ass, 1-1  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2011, 12:21:35 PM
Every time Evans start, we does leak f@*&ing goals. Sell he arse already!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2011, 12:23:54 PM
wolves doing the same thing they do to us last game. Put crosses in the area
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2011, 12:26:40 PM
Every time Evans start, we does leak f@*&ing goals. Sell he arse already!

LOL! I know you were lurking somewhere! I think his play does make Vada and the rest of the D skittish! Aside from phyiscal strength he appears to space out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
here we go again... I wonder if this is the day our luck will run out?

Hope not... expecting a game changer from Chicharito.... Why must we do things the hard way???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Every time Evans start, we does leak f@*&ing goals. Sell he arse already!

LOL! I know you were lurking somewhere! I think his play does make Vada and the rest of the D skittish! Aside from phyiscal strength he appears to space out.
I swear I does get mad when I see his name or Gibson on the starting 11. Well they now sub his arse!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
men rel pulling stones lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 05, 2011, 01:13:11 PM
Oh well...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TdotTrini on February 05, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
 :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on February 05, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
Well done Wolves
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 05, 2011, 01:24:11 PM
So much for the unbeaten season...

Arsenal fans rue 2 lost points, Ancelotti rubs hands together...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2011, 01:25:23 PM
I guess that ref did not get a bottle a wine.... Well it was good while it lasted. Wolves gave us a run unlike those other shit team at the top with us lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2011, 01:25:36 PM
Didn't do enough. Next!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2011, 01:30:17 PM
Every time Evans start, we does leak f@*&ing goals. Sell he arse already!

LOL! I know you were lurking somewhere! I think his play does make Vada and the rest of the D skittish! Aside from phyiscal strength he appears to space out.
I swear I does get mad when I see his name or Gibson on the starting 11. Well they now sub his arse!

 Smalling came on and show him how to do it he not taking no roughin up from no midget!. Evans next match should be in Carling cup!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2011, 01:37:52 PM
men rel pulling stones lol


I think you and Small mags jinx we with that gloatin all yuh was doing on Arsenull's thread!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2011, 01:39:25 PM
yea I regret breaking my rule about not posting during games...

We were poor today.. good run though..29 games equaling our previous record in 98-99

How the f**k did Arsenal go through a season without losing lol... my god

The prem is truly the place yes.. bottom team beat United, Liverpool, Chelsea and City

NORMEL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 05, 2011, 02:16:38 PM
yea I regret breaking my rule about not posting during games...

We were poor today.. good run though..29 games equaling our previous record in 98-99

How the f**k did Arsenal go through a season without losing lol... my god

The prem is truly the place yes.. bottom team beat United, Liverpool, Chelsea and City

NORMEL

Wolves are a good side. After Sunderland, they were the toughest game we had at Stamford Bridge this season. Not to mention de cutarse we collect at Molenieux.

And that Arsenal team was legendary, this United team is not. This United side would get mashup by Man U 08/09.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2011, 02:24:33 PM
yea I regret breaking my rule about not posting during games...

We were poor today.. good run though..29 games equaling our previous record in 98-99

How the f**k did Arsenal go through a season without losing lol... my god

The prem is truly the place yes.. bottom team beat United, Liverpool, Chelsea and City

NORMEL

Wolves are a good side. After Sunderland, they were the toughest game we had at Stamford Bridge this season. Not to mention de cutarse we collect at Molenieux.

And that Arsenal team was legendary, this United team is not. This United side would get mashup by Man U 08/09.

agreed 100%... our games vs Wolves have all been hard.. 3-2 last minute winner in the Carling Cup.. and 2-1 last minute winner in the league at OT

Also this United team post Ronaldo and more importantly post Quieroz is too inconsistent and dull... this Summer we need to invest in some quality to bridge the gap..  the reason we are top is because we have players who have wont hings with United and have the experience and desire to get back a result or win games whatever way they can.. the team is hungry and have desire but they also lack the quality needed

We need Valencia back fit to help us on the wing.. we need Park too to help the quality in wingers... we bloody need 1 or 2 CM's in the summer... Scholes I think will call it a day, Carrick has dropped off alot and has a few good games and then a shocker.. he's a little too average.. and Fletcher isnt the same player this year..hopefully he can regain his 08-10 form .. Anderson is energy but he loses the ball too easy and cannot pass... Modric is required.. he can play off Fletch, Ando, Carrick.. we need to buy him

Our 1st choice back 4 is fine... Rio and Vida together with Rafa and Evra..satisfied
Berba Rooney Hernandez the main 3 and Owen will chip in as well...

Valencia back , the return of Park and hopefully a Fletch upgrade in form and Carrick consistency are needed if we want to win some trophies this season


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
Whey sah Rooney !!, Top Class all time Great Goal! , Bicycle kick  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2011, 08:38:12 AM
f**k off City  :devil:

Glory Glory !!  :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 12, 2011, 08:39:04 AM
Great goal by Rooney... :beermug: :beermug:
I am also impressed by the play of Smalling..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2011, 08:40:30 AM
Great goal by Rooney... :beermug: :beermug:
I am also impressed by the play of Smalling..

Yeh Smalling looking like the real deal there
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 12, 2011, 08:40:43 AM
WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 12, 2011, 08:41:03 AM
No matter how much money city spends.......


They cant ketch utd...



MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2011, 08:42:04 AM
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 :salute:

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 12, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
Great goal by Rooney... :beermug: :beermug:
I am also impressed by the play of Smalling..

Yeh Smalling looking like the real deal there

Agreed... Smalling looks ready.

A goal to win any game or any Championship.  

This is how it feels to be City
This is how it feels to be small...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 12, 2011, 09:00:39 AM
WOWZERS

I now catch my breath..what a goal to win it.. some great games today particularly Nani, Vidic, Giggs, Rooney and Smalling.. the kid looks good alongside Rio or Vidic.. he handled the pressure well and was perfect

KICK ON!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 12, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Great goal by Rooney... :beermug: :beermug:
I am also impressed by the play of Smalling..

Agreed on both... Samlling had an incredible game.  Rooney's goal made everything else seem ordinary.


Vidic lucky not to concede a penalty on that elbow to Dzeko's head.... other than that, one of the finest officiated games in the EPL this season, Mariner did the game real justice.

Giggs had one of his poorest games in quite some time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on February 12, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
WOWZERS

I now catch my breath..what a goal to win it.. some great games today particularly Nani, Vidic, Giggs, Rooney and Smalling.. the kid looks good alongside Rio or Vidic.. he handled the pressure well and was perfect

KICK ON!


lol I figured I'd give ya a minute to catch yuh breath after Rooney score that scorcher .... Yuh know Arsenal is meh team  but ......... BIG FACKING GOAL BY ROONEY DEY AYAH ..... AH BAWL FOR MERCY AND INSTANTLY PUT IT ON MEH FACEBOOK!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 12, 2011, 12:54:39 PM
Great team win;men showed up today. Greatest goal Roonay will ever score; he look like Berba! Anybody see tevez?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 12, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
Boss goal by Rooney....wheyyyy sah :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 12, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Great team win;men showed up today. Greatest goal Roonay will ever score; he look like Berba! Anybody see tevez?

yeps.....yuh eh see how he skillfully run in to giggs hand and throw down himself. to earn a free kick?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 12, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
Giggs- what a player!!!

Other than Rooney's goal Giggs was the best thing on the field today- so intelligent, skilled and still has a great work rate.

Nani & David Silva honorable mention...

Both teams played well, but the scoreline was fair.  Man U deserved it. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 12, 2011, 04:42:17 PM

Giggs had one of his poorest games in quite some time.

Disagree- I thought he was superb and tireless...Toward the end of the 2nd half he looked like he was running out of legs and trying a bit too hard to go past him man...Other than that I thought he was great. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 12, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
I don't think Roonay knew what to do with himself after he scored. YaYa Toure is huge and broad like an oak tree; men jus bouncin off him when dey try to get close. Fergie needs to give my man Giggsy a break until CL.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 12, 2011, 09:27:10 PM

Giggs had one of his poorest games in quite some time.

Disagree- I thought he was superb and tireless...Toward the end of the 2nd half he looked like he was running out of legs and trying a bit too hard to go past him man...Other than that I thought he was great. 

You must not have been paying attention to all the errant passes and balls lost by him... I was actually surprised that Ferguson didn't sub him at the half... and I'm a big fan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 13, 2011, 02:02:05 PM

You must not have been paying attention to all the errant passes and balls lost by him... I was actually surprised that Ferguson didn't sub him at the half... and I'm a big fan.

Yeah maybe I wasn't paying as close attention.  From what I remember he was really good. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 19, 2011, 11:10:37 AM
the new keeper starting against crawly
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2011, 11:18:06 AM
I hope Bebe has a good game!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on February 19, 2011, 11:43:26 AM

You must not have been paying attention to all the errant passes and balls lost by him... I was actually surprised that Ferguson didn't sub him at the half... and I'm a big fan.

Yeah maybe I wasn't paying as close attention.  From what I remember he was really good. 

Skysports gave him a player rating of 7.
"Some cracking touches and always a threat with his final ball."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 19, 2011, 12:29:03 PM
the new keeper starting against crawly

 Who cares?!  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 19, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
the new keeper starting against crawly

 Who cares?!  ::)
lol u looking for trouble ah what? :devil: go back in yuh chelsea thread please
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 19, 2011, 12:56:16 PM
   
Daniel Taylor guardian.co.uk, Saturday 19 February 2011 17.06
 
The chances are you may never have seen him play but, at Manchester United, they are already talking about him being the most naturally talented footballer to come through their ranks since a young Paul Scholes skipped into view. His name is Ravel Morrison: 18 years old, supremely talented and tipped to be one of the pre-eminent English footballers of his generation. Morrison scored a beautiful goal to help United reach the FA Youth Cup quarter-finals last week and was in Sir Alex Ferguson's mind for a place in the squad for the FA Cup tie against Crawley, though he did not make the bench. In ordinary circumstances, it should be a time for celebration, of toasting the future in contemplation of a prodigious career and vast earning power.

Yet the Morrison story is not that simple. What United hoped would never become public knowledge is that, three weeks ago, Morrison stood in the dock of Trafford youth court, alongside two accomplices, waiting to find out if he was to be sent to a young offenders' institution.

Morrison had admitted two charges of intimidating a witness. He had subjected the victim of a knifepoint robbery to a two-day ordeal in an attempt to stop him giving evidence at the trial of his muggers. He had been warned he could face a spell in detention and, with that, United would almost certainly have given up on him. Instead, Morrison was given another chance: the judge decided on a 12-month referral order, warning him that if he did not comply he would be sentenced to a year behind bars. He was told his behaviour had been "appalling" and this was his last chance. What happens next? It is difficult to predict.

Morrison, in terms of ability, is the real deal: balance, speed, control, vision, flair, strong on either foot, an eye for a pass and a prolific scorer for a wide, left-sided player. One clip on YouTube encapsulates what he does best: a preposterous trick to bamboozle an opponent from the Blackburn youth team, incorporating a triple drag-back and a backheeled nutmeg. Let's not judge a player on internet footage, but this was a moment that would have brought Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo to their feet. "Silks", as Rio Ferdinand calls it.

He has played for England at under-16, under-17 and under-18 level and made his United debut, as a substitute, in the Carling Cup tie against Wolves in October. One FA Youth Cup tie in 2008 prompted the Times to wonder "when [we] last saw such balance and daring from an English 15-year-old". The Daily Telegraph has tipped him as "a potential gem for 2014 [World Cup]." The Independent identified Morrison in a feature about 'Five Young Players to Watch in 2010.'

He is not the first young footballer to end up in court. The club's view is that the good outweighs the bad and they are determined to give Morrison the help he needs, in all parts of his life. "The club does not in any way condone Ravel's actions, but he is a very talented player with a bright future ahead of him," a spokesman said. "The right thing to do now is to support him and help him in the process of his rehabilitation."

Even so, there is a genuine concern at United that he has fallen in with the wrong crowd and is in danger of frittering away what could be a dazzling career. Two of his friends were locked up for the robbery. The court was told Morrison subjected the victim of the mugging to threatening phone calls ("you don't know what I'm capable of") over the course of two days a year ago and was among three teenagers who threatened the boy on the street. The three later appeared in the victim's front garden in the early hours. They were chased away but then came back in a mob of 15 to 20 people. A brick was thrown through the window. The victim was so traumatised his family have put the house up for sale and want to leave Manchester.

Since the verdict Ferguson and his coaching staff have spent many hours debating how to handle the teenager, and are still uncertain of what is best. There are already stories of Morrison missing training, or turning up late for matches. "There's always something going on with him," has become a popular refrain.

More seriously, his temperamental nature and apparent dislike of authority have manifested themselves on the training ground. It is said Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, then the reserve-team manager, had to intervene in one incident. The teenager is described as someone who acts impulsively and does not think of the consequences, a fragile personality in need of a role model.

Morrison was born in Wythenshawe, a sprawling council estate on the southern tip of Manchester. He lives with his grandparents, Chris and Maureen Carlway, in Denton, five miles to the east of Manchester, while his mother, Sharon Ryan, still takes an active part in his life but lives in another part of the city with her two younger boys, Rio and Zeon.

Morrison has contemplated moving out, complaining that he does not like being under the watch of his grandmother, but the club would rather he stayed in the company of adults, and it is said that Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville have both offered to take him in at different points.

His friends, like many lads of 17 and 18, tend to hang around on bikes, wearing hooded tops and dark clothing. Morrison himself wore a hoodie to one court appearance. For his sentencing, he looked what he was: a teenager in Nike trainers and a tie knotted Grange Hill-style, ie as short as possible. There was no emotion when the judge told him he was being spared detention. However, Morrison seemed appalled when he was informed he had to pay costs, including £500 compensation to the victim. The court was told United's No49, described on the club's website as a "supremely gifted talent", had nothing in the bank despite receiving £3,400, after tax, on the 25th of every month, as part of the professional contract he signed when he was 17.










Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 20, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
I have seem Ravel play, and he is really good, but before this court incident, he was always on some kind of bad-boy vibes. There are a couple players on he bench yesterday to look out for... Tunnicliffe, Pogba (very young and raw) and Morrison. The player I thought was going to replace Scholes was Magnus Ekriem, be he followed Ole GS to Molde. Hopefully if he develops with OGS, we may get him back.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 21, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
I have seem Ravel play, and he is really good, but before this court incident, he was always on some kind of bad-boy vibes. There are a couple players on he bench yesterday to look out for... Tunnicliffe, Pogba (very young and raw) and Morrison. The player I thought was going to replace Scholes was Magnus Ekriem, be he followed Ole GS to Molde. Hopefully if he develops with OGS, we may get him back.


It would be nice if some the under 18 youthmen continue to progress and can be in the side in two years or so. I feel one of the reasons Fergie has been resisting spending on outside mature talent and sticking with current midfielders is because of the quality he knows he has coming tru. Giving some of these youths time to keep progressing and not blocking their opportunity to get into the side with players who have long term contracts. Hargreaves and Gibson should be bussin it next season. I could see Carrick and sticking around and being a squad player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 22, 2011, 01:36:58 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol

LOl! Start a thread nah-Darren Gibson doesn't belong in the EPl!
Ando injured and could be out for 2months. Is going to be up to Scholes, Nani, Berbatov, Evra, Rafael and Rooney to create the offense. It would be nice to see King and Tunnicliffe get a run. Obertan could take the rest of the year off so he could acquire a football brain. Bebe is a long term project but I have faith he can contrinute to the side in the future.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on February 22, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol

LOl! Start a thread nah-Darren Gibson doesn't belong in the EPl!
Ando injured and could be out for 2months. Is going to be up to Scholes, Nani, Berbatov, Evra, Rafael and Rooney to create the offense. It would be nice to see King and Tunnicliffe get a run. Obertan could take the rest of the year off so he could acquire a football brain. Bebe is a long term project but I have faith he can contrinute to the side in the future.
About as long as a Mortgage amortization....after what he put down on Saturday
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 22, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol

LOl! Start a thread nah-Darren Gibson doesn't belong in the EPl!
Ando injured and could be out for 2months. Is going to be up to Scholes, Nani, Berbatov, Evra, Rafael and Rooney to create the offense. It would be nice to see King and Tunnicliffe get a run. Obertan could take the rest of the year off so he could acquire a football brain. Bebe is a long term project but I have faith he can contrinute to the side in the future.
About as long as a Mortgage amortization....after what he put down on Saturday

Ah know right! I doh know why dey keep sending him out for run. The fella need tuh keep playing games that only involve reserve matches and any sweat not being shown for a world audience. Hide him, work on him behind the scenes and then spring him on us. I don't think it is helping his self confidence at all!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 22, 2011, 10:07:10 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol

LOl! Start a thread nah-Darren Gibson doesn't belong in the EPl!
Ando injured and could be out for 2months. Is going to be up to Scholes, Nani, Berbatov, Evra, Rafael and Rooney to create the offense. It would be nice to see King and Tunnicliffe get a run. Obertan could take the rest of the year off so he could acquire a football brain. Bebe is a long term project but I have faith he can contrinute to the side in the future.


Especially King... I don't think they'll play, but I hope so...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 22, 2011, 10:30:26 PM
Ando out for 2-3 weeks confirmed by SAF.. not bad as first feared
Giggsy and Owen should be ok for Wigan
Rio and Evans fit for Chelsea
Valencia and Park back for FA Cup QF on March 12th/13th

HUGE GAMES AHEAD

Marseille away, Wigan away, Chelsea away, Liverpool away, Arsenal FA Cup(most likely) home, Marseille home
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 23, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
Gibson starting.... lard fadder!!! Hope he prove me wrong today!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 23, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
This is the squad that flew out for tomorrow's game.
Squad: Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Lindegaard;, Vidic, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Smalling, Scholes, Gibson, Nani, Carrick, Fletcher, Bebe, Obertan, Tunnicliffe, Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, King

Giggs, Ferdinand and Anderson did not go. The good news is Evans did not go either, the bad news is Gibson went with them lol

The news gets worse; he starting instead of Scholes! Berba, Nani and Rooney to lead the attack. 4-3-3.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 23, 2011, 01:28:16 PM
Gibson starting.... lard fadder!!! Hope he prove me wrong today!

LOL! Yuh just take the words of my keyboard!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 23, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
Gibson starting.... lard fadder!!! Hope he prove me wrong today!

LOL! Yuh just take the words of my keyboard!
I trust Fergie, but United does look like shit when Gibson play, Scholes should have started with Fletcher.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 23, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
Oh GAWWWWSH, allyuh go win!! ! What allyuh wurried 'bout?! DIE, BISHES, DIE!!  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 23, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
this field my just be worst than the COE...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 23, 2011, 02:32:44 PM
no creativity in the middle of the field from Man.U.... sub Gibson!! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
good game , ill take the draw
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 23, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
good game , ill take the draw
I blame Gibson for that draw!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2011, 05:55:16 PM
good game , ill take the draw
I blame Gibson for that draw!

lord he make some bad passes in that game dread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 23, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
Gibson lived up to his usual billing.  Can anybody tell me the last time Carrick made telling pass that led to a goal? He playing like he forgot how to pass or Barca robbed his soul in the 09 final.We in trouble when Flecherinho is the most creative in midfielder. That line up Fergie put out seems like it was to keep a clean sheet; just by the mere presence of O'Shea instead of Rafael.
Hopefully next match we have our people back and we can score some goals.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 23, 2011, 06:18:18 PM
good game , ill take the draw
I blame Gibson for that draw!

lord he make some bad passes in that game dread

LOl! Did you see the nice ball Rooney gave him and he f*ck up the control and then started gesturing to Rooney like he gave him a pullstones pass? Priceless!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 23, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
United were clearly happy with taking honors even back to Old Trafford.  They played that game in 2nd gear. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 26, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.

How did he not see red for that elbow?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2011, 10:01:51 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.

How did he not see red for that elbow?

ref get pay off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2011, 10:16:42 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.

How did he not see red for that elbow?

Actually when I first saw it it looked accidental, but replays show that he seem to be deliberate with his actions. Rooney is an imps!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2011, 10:23:08 AM
Nani fit boy, he dos be all over the field.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 26, 2011, 10:28:47 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.

  Rooney was alwys a man that could only run at a team when united are on the break.....he still doin' dat.  Wigan have some rel unintelligent players on this side.  They does play mainly on insinct......easy 3 points fuh allyuh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on February 26, 2011, 10:30:22 AM
Nani is a greedy bitch
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2011, 10:34:47 AM
dat mexican is amazing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2011, 10:45:44 AM
lol 4nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2011, 10:47:56 AM
Rooeny playing like he has lost his power and strength; he is no longer able to bulldoze or power his way past defenders or hold them off. Which was an attribute that made him very affective on the pitch. Now the man running around like a boxer who lose weight to fast and can't win a fight because he has no pack to his punch.

  Rooney was alwys a man that could only run at a team when united are on the break.....he still doin' dat.  Wigan have some rel unintelligent players on this side.  They does play mainly on insinct......easy 3 points fuh allyuh.

Disagree, Rooney use to be able to sheild the ball and control the ball while absorbing/riding tackels. Wigan have a bunch of unskilled labourers trying to work with marble.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2011, 10:49:34 AM
lol 4nil

Fabio playing left wing yes! Love dem Brazilians and Mr. Nani! Vandersar is also amazing!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on February 26, 2011, 10:54:18 AM
Concacaf beware of the one called "Chicharito" that bredda is clinical
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 26, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
Chicharito : 13 shots on target in prem , 9 prem goals : CLINICAL

Rooney's "elbow" is inconclusive for me.. it looked suspect but it also looked like how someone would try to get around or past a marker.. he was going fast and to me if you try to pull someone back from the shoulder to get past it does the same action as an elbow would appear...

I hope the FA dont take action as they didnt lately with some big names at City and Arsenal .. but they like to make an example out of us so I wouldnt doubt anything

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 4 begins
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on February 27, 2011, 04:33:16 AM
Chicharito : 13 shots on target in prem , 9 prem goals : CLINICAL

Rooney's "elbow" is inconclusive for me.. it looked suspect but it also looked like how someone would try to get around or past a marker.. he was going fast and to me if you try to pull someone back from the shoulder to get past it does the same action as an elbow would appear...

I hope the FA dont take action as they didnt lately with some big names at City and Arsenal .. but they like to make an example out of us so I wouldnt doubt anything

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 4 begins

It didn't look suspect at all he changed direction and delibrately elbowed him without doubt.  Its just another case of one rule for some another for the rest from the referees in the EPL, goes on week in week out.

The FA can't do anything as the ref seen it and awarded a free kick, which beggars belief tbh, but unfortunately not a bit surprising.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 27, 2011, 10:14:49 AM
Chicharito : 13 shots on target in prem , 9 prem goals : CLINICAL

Rooney's "elbow" is inconclusive for me.. it looked suspect but it also looked like how someone would try to get around or past a marker.. he was going fast and to me if you try to pull someone back from the shoulder to get past it does the same action as an elbow would appear...

I hope the FA dont take action as they didnt lately with some big names at City and Arsenal .. but they like to make an example out of us so I wouldnt doubt anything

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTT


Massive 4 begins

It didn't look suspect at all he changed direction and delibrately elbowed him without doubt.  Its just another case of one rule for some another for the rest from the referees in the EPL, goes on week in week out.

The FA can't do anything as the ref seen it and awarded a free kick, which beggars belief tbh, but unfortunately not a bit surprising.

Kev, you're trying to impart reason, truth and clarity onto a manu kool-aid piss drinker here. With all due respect, you've wasted enough time already.  Like you said, there's rules for the rest of the league, then there's rules for manu. And, of course, alex ferguson could never find a cell in his body that could beg him to admit one iota of wrongdoing on rooney's part. Little wonder that, for all of rooney's perceived maturity over the years, he continues to have these regular relapses of brainless, classless behaviour.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 27, 2011, 01:07:00 PM
There's nothing at all "inconclusive" about that elbow... I've defended Rooney at times on this board, but that was a deliberate and ill-tempered, and unprovoked strike by Rooney.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on February 28, 2011, 07:32:00 AM
There's nothing at all "inconclusive" about that elbow... I've defended Rooney at times on this board, but that was a deliberate and ill-tempered, and unprovoked strike by Rooney.
Agree 100%....ref was ball watchin....Rooney should have been sent off....as much as I support Man U, there is no doubt in my mind that we should have gotten marching orders
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 28, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
FA: No Ban for Rooney

Clattenberg said he dealt with it in his match report... nothing they can do now

Unlucky haters.. but when Gerrard got away with it and others recently If they went and banned Wayne they would have folded under the media witch hunt

On that note..Wayne got away.. but phew  ;D

WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 28, 2011, 08:07:01 AM
LOL's
http://www.youtube.com/v/ldCWdIbp02s&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on February 28, 2011, 10:28:50 AM
Rooney the Ban Dodger


why do they call him that?

cus' he dodges bans innit?


no blame on manu or rooney (well other than he is scum for an elbow to the head)

but again the reffs get protected when they do shite, i feel the reffs union instead of opening up and growing from failures just keep denying shit when this happens especially blatant shit, that is brought to the attention of the reff and all he does is award a free kick??? thus nullifying any powers the the FA have?? how can one person have such power?

where is the checks n ballance?
where is the improvement?

and please dont be childish and say im sours grpes cus arsenal lost, im not we deserved to lose when you make a mistake like that in a final, plain and simple

i would also say the same about rooneys incident had arsenal won.

enjoy it while it last you red scum lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 01, 2011, 08:25:53 AM




WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT



Is it just me or is this chant nauseating?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 01, 2011, 08:30:29 AM
Ryan Giggs: My 20 years with Manchester United's first team

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/28/ryan-giggs-interview-guardian/print

Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing...

The first game: 2 March 1991. You look at the photos now and so much has changed. Old Trafford, back then, was an unsophisticated place, desperately in need of investment, much in line with a city struggling from the effects of post-industrialisation. "Madchester" might have been booming but Manchester was far from the metropolis of stylish apartment blocks, Calatrava bridges and glass condominium towers we see now.

Ryan Giggs was 17, wearing a shirt that seemed slightly too large for his skinny frame. Manchester United 0 Everton 2. The team were on a run of seven league games without a win, almost a quarter of a century since their last title. It was an inauspicious debut. "The thing that sticks out is Dave Watson coming through the back of me," Giggs says. "It was 'welcome to the big boys' league'. I had a big cut on my knee for ages after that." Otherwise, he cannot remember too much apart from Ferguson shouting at everyone in the dressing room.


The anniversary is on Wednesday. "Twenty years of tramping up and down that bloody wing," as Ferguson puts it. Though, Giggs being Giggs, he doesn't want too much fuss. He cringes when it is put to him there might be a statue for him outside Old Trafford one day. "A statue? I really don't know about that …" He is 37 now, flecks of grey hair appearing around his ears. Retirement is on the horizon – maybe only 15 months away – and there is the odd moment of insecurity. "I wasn't worried about it three or four years ago but I am now," he confesses. "I'm wondering what I'm going to do."

Coaching is one option. An ambassadorial role is open to him at United if he wants it. Giggs, one senses, will remain part of the Old Trafford furniture. There have been many super-talented kids come and go at this club. None has lasted 20 years. Nobody has played so many games. Or with such continued excellence. It has been an epic and anachronistic run. "Twenty years, I do feel proud," says a man who increasingly possesses the universal appeal of Sir Bobby Charlton. "You're talking about a player coming into a successful team at the age of 17 and staying there for 20 years. It's not impossible, but it's tough to think it will happen again."

The question he gets asked most these days is simple: what's the secret of his longevity? But there are many different factors. "First of all, it's what you're born with; your genetics." After that, it's about "trying to live your life the right way."

The younger Giggs – that wiry kid with the mop of curly hair – was on first-name terms with Manchester's nightclub doormen, but that had its drawbacks. "Coming into the first-team, a lot of hype, celebrity girlfriends, it meant photographers following me all over the place." Giggs felt as though his privacy was being invaded. In his first full season he remembers the now-defunct Today newspaper "ran a week-long feature delving into my family, my dad's family, the rift between my mum and dad. It was just … I just didn't like it."

Giggs has had his fair share of lost nights, but he's virtually teetotal now and just wants "to keep a low profile". He finds it amusing that Rio Ferdinand should tell almost 600,000 followers on Twitter what he has eaten for breakfast or what cartoons he likes best. "Yeah, I don't get that ... I really just don't get that."

He turns up for this interview in a simple top, jeans and a £40 pair of Converse pumps. That kid of 1991, the boy who played football like a man, has become the man who plays football like a boy. Tuesday night, against Chelsea, Giggs will equal Charlton's record of 606 league appearances for United. In all competitions, Giggs has played for the club 861 times, overtaking Charlton (on 758) on the night of the 2008 European Cup final.

"At the beginning it's just desire to get in the first team and stay there," he explains. "Some players might lose their drive, but not the ones I've been friends with. You get older, but the desire is still there, and you actually enjoy it more." Plus he makes another point: "I've played for Wales, remember, and playing for Wales and playing for United, I know the difference. It's a lot easier when you have quality around you, believe me. I might have been finished three or four years ago otherwise."

Giggs has never been one for pumping his fists or long, impassioned dressing-room sermons, but in that quiet, understated way, he also has a fierce determination to keep on winning. It is his fix, he says, the only true form of job satisfaction. Plus there is the fear of failure that so many top sportsmen use as motivation. "Last year, for example, when Chelsea won the double. It winds you up. You don't want it to happen again. You don't want to feel like you did last summer. You want to feel like the year before when you won the league. You think about those moments just as much as you think about the things you've won. Probably more, in fact."

This is a common theme among Giggs's generation at United: remember the bad times, make sure they are the exception rather than the norm. "It stays with you. You go away on holiday, you're lying on the beach trying to enjoy yourself with the kids, and you do. But then you have a quiet moment, it comes back to you and you can't help it, you're pissed off. You're on holiday, and you're just pissed off."

The worst time? "My first full season, when we lost the league to Leeds. That awful feeling of emptiness." The European Cup final in 2009, losing to Barcelona, was a close second. "On the coach outside the stadium, you know you haven't played well personally, and you haven't played well as a team. It's the last game of the season, you'll never get it back and you're just gutted. We didn't perform. That was the worst thing. We just didn't perform. At United you always pride yourself that when you lose a goal you react – but we didn't that night."

Giggs, lest it be forgotten, already has two Champions League winner's medals. He was rummaging through his drawers the other week and found them under some clothes, along with his OBE and a couple of league winner's medals. "Oh, here they are," he thought. Most of his collection has been donated to the club museum, though he does treasure some possessions. "The night of the European Cup final in Moscow, Bobby presented me with a watch . . ." His eyes sparkle.

In 20 years he has had 131 different team-mates – good, bad, indifferent and, in a few cases, exceptional. A few weeks ago, Giggs nominated Paul Scholes as the best ("I've never seen anyone make the game look so easy"). This time he chooses differently. "Probably Roy [Keane]. If Bryan Robson was playing you never thought you were going to lose. Then Robbo left, Roy took over that mantle and you felt invincible with him around." Did Giggs escape the Irishman's furies? "No one got away with it. But I was here before him, remember. I didn't get it too bad."

As for Ferguson, Giggs seems convinced his manager will outlast him. He tells a story of Ferguson contracting the virus that went around the club before the Manchester derby last November. Ferguson was feverish, looking like death. Then it came to match-day and he was there in the dugout. "He loves the challenge. I just can't see the gaffer leaving in the near future. He'll be around a lot longer than me." Ferguson turns 70 at the end of the year, but Giggs shrugs. "Maybe not another 10 years, but four or five definitely."

Ferguson, he says, is a "lot more mellow these days, a lot less scary than when I was 13," though Giggs has lost count of the number of times his eyebrows have been singed by the "Hairdryer". One of his favourite stories remembers how, a few weeks after his debut, Steve Bruce and Robson told him that now he was established as a first-team player he should ask Ferguson if he qualified for a club car. An emboldened Giggs duly knocked on the manager's door. "He went absolutely nuts," he recalls. It was only later that the teenager realised he had been set up.

Older, wiser, Giggs has become the popular face of Manchester United, revered throughout the game. His medal count is staggering (forty-eight and counting, if you count the times he has been a runners-up). Giggs did not invent the art of dribbling but there have been times over the last 20 years when it felt as though he had taken it to its highest level.

He is also well qualified to respond to Didier Deschamps's observation last week that United no longer play with the "fantasy" of old. "Since losing Cristiano [Ronaldo] and Carlos [Tevez], losing great players, I know why people might say that, but we're still in a really strong position. We're top of the league, we're still in the Champions League, still in the FA Cup."

And the mind goes back to that game against Everton 20 years ago. "It was thoroughly colourless stuff," the Guardian reported at the time. "Manchester United's championship hopes, for the 24th consecutive season, had long gone cold." Giggs's appearance, as a 35th-minute substitute for the injured Denis Irwin, does not warrant a mention. "It felt like a wake," Giggs remembers. But the skinny kid with the gashed knee has not done too badly.

Ryan Giggs' career in numbers

0 Red cards

1 Goal of the season, his matchwinner in the FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal in 1999

1 PFA Player of the year award, for the 2008-09 season

1 OBE for services to football, awarded in 2007

1 Honorary degree, a Master of Arts from Salford University for contributions to football and charity work in developing countries

2 Champions Leagues winner's medals, in 1999 and 2008

2 PFA young player of the year awards

3 BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards, including two from BBC Wales

4 FA Cups, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004

4 League Cups, 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

9 Times included in the PFA team of the year

11 English league titles, a record

11 The number of consecutive Champions League tournaments in which he has scored, a record

12 Goals for Wales

19 The only player to have scored in every Premier League campaign since its conception

22 The 22nd person to receive the Freedom of the City of Salford in January 2010

64 Caps for Wales

158 Manchester United goals

605 League appearances, one short of Bobby Charlton's record

862 Manchester United appearances, the most in the club's history
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 08:56:26 AM




WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT



Is it just me or is this chant nauseating?

I can feel the nausea rising as  I type! It is also stupid!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 08:59:33 AM
 :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2011, 09:03:30 AM
I love it... they say we get all the calls, and all the luck

so it is a chant to rub it in their bitter faces







Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 09:09:16 AM
Ryan Giggs: My 20 years with Manchester United's first team

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/28/ryan-giggs-interview-guardian/print

Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing...

The first game: 2 March 1991. You look at the photos now and so much has changed. Old Trafford, back then, was an unsophisticated place, desperately in need of investment, much in line with a city struggling from the effects of post-industrialisation. "Madchester" might have been booming but Manchester was far from the metropolis of stylish apartment blocks, Calatrava bridges and glass condominium towers we see now.

Ryan Giggs was 17, wearing a shirt that seemed slightly too large for his skinny frame. Manchester United 0 Everton 2. The team were on a run of seven league games without a win, almost a quarter of a century since their last title. It was an inauspicious debut. "The thing that sticks out is Dave Watson coming through the back of me," Giggs says. "It was 'welcome to the big boys' league'. I had a big cut on my knee for ages after that." Otherwise, he cannot remember too much apart from Ferguson shouting at everyone in the dressing room.


The anniversary is on Wednesday. "Twenty years of tramping up and down that bloody wing," as Ferguson puts it. Though, Giggs being Giggs, he doesn't want too much fuss. He cringes when it is put to him there might be a statue for him outside Old Trafford one day. "A statue? I really don't know about that …" He is 37 now, flecks of grey hair appearing around his ears. Retirement is on the horizon – maybe only 15 months away – and there is the odd moment of insecurity. "I wasn't worried about it three or four years ago but I am now," he confesses. "I'm wondering what I'm going to do."

Coaching is one option. An ambassadorial role is open to him at United if he wants it. Giggs, one senses, will remain part of the Old Trafford furniture. There have been many super-talented kids come and go at this club. None has lasted 20 years. Nobody has played so many games. Or with such continued excellence. It has been an epic and anachronistic run. "Twenty years, I do feel proud," says a man who increasingly possesses the universal appeal of Sir Bobby Charlton. "You're talking about a player coming into a successful team at the age of 17 and staying there for 20 years. It's not impossible, but it's tough to think it will happen again."

The question he gets asked most these days is simple: what's the secret of his longevity? But there are many different factors. "First of all, it's what you're born with; your genetics." After that, it's about "trying to live your life the right way."

The younger Giggs – that wiry kid with the mop of curly hair – was on first-name terms with Manchester's nightclub doormen, but that had its drawbacks. "Coming into the first-team, a lot of hype, celebrity girlfriends, it meant photographers following me all over the place." Giggs felt as though his privacy was being invaded. In his first full season he remembers the now-defunct Today newspaper "ran a week-long feature delving into my family, my dad's family, the rift between my mum and dad. It was just … I just didn't like it."

Giggs has had his fair share of lost nights, but he's virtually teetotal now and just wants "to keep a low profile". He finds it amusing that Rio Ferdinand should tell almost 600,000 followers on Twitter what he has eaten for breakfast or what cartoons he likes best. "Yeah, I don't get that ... I really just don't get that."

He turns up for this interview in a simple top, jeans and a £40 pair of Converse pumps. That kid of 1991, the boy who played football like a man, has become the man who plays football like a boy. Tuesday night, against Chelsea, Giggs will equal Charlton's record of 606 league appearances for United. In all competitions, Giggs has played for the club 861 times, overtaking Charlton (on 758) on the night of the 2008 European Cup final.

"At the beginning it's just desire to get in the first team and stay there," he explains. "Some players might lose their drive, but not the ones I've been friends with. You get older, but the desire is still there, and you actually enjoy it more." Plus he makes another point: "I've played for Wales, remember, and playing for Wales and playing for United, I know the difference. It's a lot easier when you have quality around you, believe me. I might have been finished three or four years ago otherwise."

Giggs has never been one for pumping his fists or long, impassioned dressing-room sermons, but in that quiet, understated way, he also has a fierce determination to keep on winning. It is his fix, he says, the only true form of job satisfaction. Plus there is the fear of failure that so many top sportsmen use as motivation. "Last year, for example, when Chelsea won the double. It winds you up. You don't want it to happen again. You don't want to feel like you did last summer. You want to feel like the year before when you won the league. You think about those moments just as much as you think about the things you've won. Probably more, in fact."

This is a common theme among Giggs's generation at United: remember the bad times, make sure they are the exception rather than the norm. "It stays with you. You go away on holiday, you're lying on the beach trying to enjoy yourself with the kids, and you do. But then you have a quiet moment, it comes back to you and you can't help it, you're pissed off. You're on holiday, and you're just pissed off."

The worst time? "My first full season, when we lost the league to Leeds. That awful feeling of emptiness." The European Cup final in 2009, losing to Barcelona, was a close second. "On the coach outside the stadium, you know you haven't played well personally, and you haven't played well as a team. It's the last game of the season, you'll never get it back and you're just gutted. We didn't perform. That was the worst thing. We just didn't perform. At United you always pride yourself that when you lose a goal you react – but we didn't that night."

Giggs, lest it be forgotten, already has two Champions League winner's medals. He was rummaging through his drawers the other week and found them under some clothes, along with his OBE and a couple of league winner's medals. "Oh, here they are," he thought. Most of his collection has been donated to the club museum, though he does treasure some possessions. "The night of the European Cup final in Moscow, Bobby presented me with a watch . . ." His eyes sparkle.

In 20 years he has had 131 different team-mates – good, bad, indifferent and, in a few cases, exceptional. A few weeks ago, Giggs nominated Paul Scholes as the best ("I've never seen anyone make the game look so easy"). This time he chooses differently. "Probably Roy [Keane]. If Bryan Robson was playing you never thought you were going to lose. Then Robbo left, Roy took over that mantle and you felt invincible with him around." Did Giggs escape the Irishman's furies? "No one got away with it. But I was here before him, remember. I didn't get it too bad."

As for Ferguson, Giggs seems convinced his manager will outlast him. He tells a story of Ferguson contracting the virus that went around the club before the Manchester derby last November. Ferguson was feverish, looking like death. Then it came to match-day and he was there in the dugout. "He loves the challenge. I just can't see the gaffer leaving in the near future. He'll be around a lot longer than me." Ferguson turns 70 at the end of the year, but Giggs shrugs. "Maybe not another 10 years, but four or five definitely."

Ferguson, he says, is a "lot more mellow these days, a lot less scary than when I was 13," though Giggs has lost count of the number of times his eyebrows have been singed by the "Hairdryer". One of his favourite stories remembers how, a few weeks after his debut, Steve Bruce and Robson told him that now he was established as a first-team player he should ask Ferguson if he qualified for a club car. An emboldened Giggs duly knocked on the manager's door. "He went absolutely nuts," he recalls. It was only later that the teenager realised he had been set up.

Older, wiser, Giggs has become the popular face of Manchester United, revered throughout the game. His medal count is staggering (forty-eight and counting, if you count the times he has been a runners-up). Giggs did not invent the art of dribbling but there have been times over the last 20 years when it felt as though he had taken it to its highest level.

He is also well qualified to respond to Didier Deschamps's observation last week that United no longer play with the "fantasy" of old. "Since losing Cristiano [Ronaldo] and Carlos [Tevez], losing great players, I know why people might say that, but we're still in a really strong position. We're top of the league, we're still in the Champions League, still in the FA Cup."

And the mind goes back to that game against Everton 20 years ago. "It was thoroughly colourless stuff," the Guardian reported at the time. "Manchester United's championship hopes, for the 24th consecutive season, had long gone cold." Giggs's appearance, as a 35th-minute substitute for the injured Denis Irwin, does not warrant a mention. "It felt like a wake," Giggs remembers. But the skinny kid with the gashed knee has not done too badly.

Ryan Giggs' career in numbers

0 Red cards

1 Goal of the season, his matchwinner in the FA Cup semi-final against Arsenal in 1999

1 PFA Player of the year award, for the 2008-09 season

1 OBE for services to football, awarded in 2007

1 Honorary degree, a Master of Arts from Salford University for contributions to football and charity work in developing countries

2 Champions Leagues winner's medals, in 1999 and 2008

2 PFA young player of the year awards

3 BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards, including two from BBC Wales

4 FA Cups, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004

4 League Cups, 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

9 Times included in the PFA team of the year

11 English league titles, a record

11 The number of consecutive Champions League tournaments in which he has scored, a record

12 Goals for Wales

19 The only player to have scored in every Premier League campaign since its conception

22 The 22nd person to receive the Freedom of the City of Salford in January 2010

64 Caps for Wales

158 Manchester United goals

605 League appearances, one short of Bobby Charlton's record

862 Manchester United appearances, the most in the club's history


Great article.  There is also a picture of him in the locker room surrounded by all the different United shirts he has worn through out his 20 year career with the different sponsors. Great pic, I would love to have that as a souvenir pic.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: SHOTTA on March 01, 2011, 12:50:58 PM
any place to see this game today online?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 12:51:09 PM




WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT



Is it just me or is this chant nauseating?

The chant AND the source.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 01, 2011, 01:35:40 PM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!
yeh  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 01, 2011, 03:21:31 PM
lol like we didnt pay this ref  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 01, 2011, 03:25:36 PM
De Brazillian is ah great player but he nasty...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 01, 2011, 03:26:06 PM
lol like we didnt pay this ref  ???

Martin Atkinson is having a horrible game.  I don't feel sorry for ManU (ah guess allyuh won't do what allyuh want, eh?), but Luiz should have received 3 yellow cards, let alone two.

That was also a very weak penalty to award.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 03:38:53 PM
BIG BIG PERFORMANCE
COME ON THE CHELS
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 01, 2011, 03:39:02 PM
 :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 01, 2011, 03:43:53 PM
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT
WE ARE MAN UNITED
WE'LL DO WHAT WE WANTTTTT

Whey the chant for this one?

Hol two jab-jab goal and eat ah jab-jab fowl!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 01, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
Chelsea got the calls today.

Big result for Arsenal. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 01, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Chelsea got the calls today.

Big result for Arsenal
:beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Chelsea got the calls today.

Big result for Arsenal
:beermug:

Big Up!


yeah but allyuh still eh winning shite  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2011, 03:54:27 PM
3 wins in a row.. 3 referee moments in a row

Fletch "foul" which they scored from 1-0 at the Bridge, Drogba offside at OT, Chelsea 2-1... Luiz clear foul second bookable offense at 1-1 and a very harsh penalty.

We have no luck against that team..none.  

I rather win medals than win vs Chelsea.. unlike allyuh who only look to a win vs United...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 01, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
3 wins in a row.. 3 referee moments in a row

Fletch "foul" which they scored from 1-0 at the Bridge, Drogba offside at OT, Chelsea 2-1... Luiz clear foul second bookable offense at 1-1 and a very harsh penalty.

We have no luck against that team..none.  

I rather win medals than win vs Chelsea.. unlike allyuh who only look to a win vs United...

yuh name shouldnt be wazza, it should be WHAAAAAAAA! ZA! :yapping:

karma in yuh backside, rooney escape a ban well vidic go take it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 01, 2011, 04:02:16 PM
I blame Gibson and Evans for this lorse!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 01, 2011, 04:03:58 PM
 :angel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2011, 04:12:28 PM
Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson on Chelsea's David Luiz: "He's done Chicarito before he got booked, and he did Rooney two minutes before the penalty was awarded, I don't know how he was still on the pitch. The players have endured a lot of decisions against them and they didn't deserve that tonight. Chelsea aren't out of the title race if they keep getting decisions like that."

Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson: "We defended badly for the first goal, but the penalty kick is so soft, dear me. We played really well and we didn't deserve that. Three years in a row here decisions have changed the game."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 01, 2011, 04:15:02 PM
Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson on Chelsea's David Luiz: "He's done Chicarito before he got booked, and he did Rooney two minutes before the penalty was awarded, I don't know how he was still on the pitch. The players have endured a lot of decisions against them and they didn't deserve that tonight. Chelsea aren't out of the title race if they keep getting decisions like that."

Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson: "We defended badly for the first goal, but the penalty kick is so soft, dear me. We played really well and we didn't deserve that. Three years in a row here decisions have changed the game."

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZA!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 01, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson on Chelsea's David Luiz: "He's done Chicarito before he got booked, and he did Rooney two minutes before the penalty was awarded, I don't know how he was still on the pitch. The players have endured a lot of decisions against them and they didn't deserve that tonight. Chelsea aren't out of the title race if they keep getting decisions like that."

Man United manager Sir Alex Ferguson: "We defended badly for the first goal, but the penalty kick is so soft, dear me. We played really well and we didn't deserve that. Three years in a row here decisions have changed the game."

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/153/1226057~Happy-Bunny-Hi-Loser-Posters.jpg)

(http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/1f/6e/0,,10268~9465375,00.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 01, 2011, 04:32:28 PM
LOL's... take yuh win yes

I hope United get a shit penalty and lucky not have a man sent off when we play yall at OT so I can hear all the haters on this thread in May
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 01, 2011, 04:48:40 PM
LOL's... take yuh win yes

I hope United get a shit penalty and lucky not have a man sent off when we play yall at OT so I can hear all the haters on this thread in May

Yuh mean like Berbatov shit penalty against Liverpool in the FA Cup?  And not have a man sent off like Rooney last week?  Apparently Fogie had he vision blocked on those two plays... hypocrite.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 01, 2011, 04:50:40 PM
LOL's... take yuh win yes

I hope United get a shit penalty and lucky not have a man sent off when we play yall at OT so I can hear all the haters on this thread in May

That is BS talk. As the game start nasty man Rooney hit Ivanovic ah elbow and try to block him from recovering on a Man Utd fast break. Then he keep hitting players for no reason. Vidic and Ferdinone is shyte defenders and can only play in England just like Rooney.

Golasso by Ronney on that goal by the way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 05:03:37 PM
Not surprised that United didn't get any calls after the FA failed to suspend Rooney and the Wigan chairman accused them of being afraid of United. The ref had to prove that there is no bias and the FA not afarid to make calls against United. One game, we still have to win the league and Chelski still have to beat out Spurs for FOURTH We win what we need to win and we will win the league. Enjoy the ABU massive!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 05:10:07 PM
I would have loved to have seen Giggsy start but obviously Fergie was saving him for the match against a bigger side like Liverpool!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 01, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
Not surprised that United didn't get any calls after the FA failed to suspend Rooney and the Wigan chairman accused them of being afraid of United. The ref had to prove that there is no bias and the FA not afarid to make calls against United. One game, we still have to win the league and Chelski still have to beat out Spurs for FOURTH We win what we need to win and we will win the league. Enjoy the ABU massive!

Not if Liverpuddle put it on allyuh on the weekend  ;D :-*

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 05:44:01 PM
LOL's... take yuh win yes

I hope United get a shit penalty and lucky not have a man sent off when we play yall at OT so I can hear all the haters on this thread in May

That is BS talk. As the game start nasty man Rooney hit Ivanovic ah elbow and try to block him from recovering on a Man Utd fast break. Then he keep hitting players for no reason. Vidic and Ferdinone is shyte defenders and can only play in England just like Rooney.

Golasso by Ronney on that goal by the way.

yeah boy......they real fail at their last stint in la Liga
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 05:49:27 PM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!

No church today?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 01, 2011, 06:05:53 PM
I had to chuckle just hearing Fergie pronounce "Chicarito" with his Scottish accent! Priceless!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
De Brazillian is ah great player but he nasty...

    He is one of the FEW Brazilians that come to play in english football and come prepared.  nasty is how yuh HAVE to be to play anywhere in the British Isles, plain and simple.  I did not see the second half (ah go see it now) but if it is, by what I'm reading, that FOR ONCE, manu got the short end of the officiating stick, well, get over it. Sometimes that circle of karma is alot smaller and shit ends up coming back around alot quicker than we want or expect it to. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 01, 2011, 09:07:05 PM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 01, 2011, 09:15:41 PM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!

No church today?

Doh come with that. I only see up to Rooney Goal. I have not seen a Chelsea game in forever. That though mean I cyah tell alyuh is licks.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 01, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 02, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!

No church today?

I have not seen a Chelsea game in forever.


IT HAS ALREADY BEEEGUN............
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 02, 2011, 06:27:17 AM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!

steups......

Arsenal who? whaiz that? a side?

BOY....LOOK .....STEUPs....doh waist we time eh......

U wha me call a Birmingham fan for u a what?  :loser:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2011, 07:24:49 AM
Is rel lick in Man United waist today.

Come on Chelsea!!!!!!!!!

No church today?

Doh come with that. I only see up to Rooney Goal. I have not seen a Chelsea game in forever. That though mean I cyah tell alyuh is licks.

Lol! You right! You know I had tuh mess with you a little, plus ah was vex with everybody yesterday! :beermug:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2011, 07:27:25 AM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.

Rooney needs to get rough up so he might think about respecting his opponents next time he think about pelting elbow or a kick. That kind of selfish play could cost us a game. If players dishing it out they need to be able to take it also. I have nothing else to say about the ref, no use game over, time to move on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2011, 07:28:59 AM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!

David Luiz is a borse, but if he think he can keep making dem tackles and keep getting a away with them then he setting himself up to get send off.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2011, 07:47:53 AM
I recorded the game while I was at work and was really looking forward to watching it when I got home. My brother in Trinidad just blew up the spot texting me while I was on my way home,talking about "hardluck dey sis, ha, ha, ha"! Man I was so damn vex, talk about a big friggin let down? I done talk to he for the week yes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 07:56:12 AM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!

David Luiz is a borse, but if he think he can keep making dem tackles and keep getting a away with them then he setting himself up to get send off.


Dize awright, Giggsy, let 'im get sent off a few times, we go deal wit it.  Yuh cyah be no softy in this league and enoough people does criticize arsenal for being too soft.  We eh go be like dat club.  Between Terry, Essien, Mikel and now, Luiz, we lettin' it be known that we have the personnel to mix it up with the the teams and players that like to mix it up.  Men like rooney, vidic, ferdinand, fletcher, johnny evans, bitchrice evra, ryan giggs, scholes, gerrard, barton, etc.  Just a short list of the men that like to play like dey eh 'fraid no yellow or red card, so we eh go 'fraid it either.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 02, 2011, 08:43:09 AM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  

The call was pretty soft.  Zhirkov left his trailing foot behind to buy the foul - He wasn't tripped- he got himself tripped....clear as day- doh play yuh eh see dat, we iz all big people here.  Take it and say thanks, that's the game.... but doh pretend it wasn't a pretty soft call. I'm a neutral, and that wasn't nearly the best looking penalty shout....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 02, 2011, 09:40:39 AM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!

steups......

Arsenal who? whaiz that? a side?

BOY....LOOK .....STEUPs....doh waist we time eh......

U wha me call a Birmingham fan for u a what?  :loser:

thats your constructive talk? look shove a flickin allo pie in yuh hole nah

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 02, 2011, 09:46:54 AM
Doh study it G-Stunner. United could only fight dong people who complain about bad ref decisions they benefit from. Look how they does run up Wenger chest. Dat "if only" thing does cut both ways. Wazza shouldn't be playing and Ferdinand shoulda get sent off against Arsenal in December, but hear Fergie "de ref t'ief we" nonsense. Finally some fairness in the Premiership. Vidic hol dat!

Oh yeah, and David Luiz is a borse! He go real rip up in dis league. He get away doh!

steups......

Arsenal who? whaiz that? a side?

BOY....LOOK .....STEUPs....doh waist we time eh......

U wha me call a Birmingham fan for u a what?  :loser:

thats your constructive talk? look shove a flickin allo pie in yuh hole nah

 
Doh study it. Yuh know dem United fellas cyah handle it. Dey too used to having Howard Webb bail dey backside out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  

The call was pretty soft.  Zhirkov left his trailing foot behind to buy the foul - He wasn't tripped- he got himself tripped....clear as day- doh play yuh eh see dat, we iz all big people here.  Take it and say thanks, that's the game.... but doh pretend it wasn't a pretty soft call. I'm a neutral, and that wasn't nearly the best looking penalty shout....

   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 11:43:06 AM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.

Rooney needs to get rough up so he might think about respecting his opponents next time he think about pelting elbow or a kick. That kind of selfish play could cost us a game. If players dishing it out they need to be able to take it also. I have nothing else to say about the ref, no use game over, time to move on.

I have always felt that way about rooney and I always thought that somebody would really put a hurtin' on him one day.   Even so, I really thought that he had matured alot and gotten past the stupid behaviour, but events this week and some over the past season or two has shown me that he really hasn't matured as much as I was tryin' to give him credit for.  He's an ass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 02, 2011, 11:54:59 AM
   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."

This can't be the same Efan Ekoku who said yesterday that Luiz was lucky to have not been sent off and that he shouldn't have been on the pitch to score the equalizing goal.. is he?  By your metric he can't be neutral then... or is he just "neutral" according to whether says something you find agreeable?  Zhirkov sold a soft penalty and allyuh win, take yuh three points and be quiet.


...yes, yes I know... Liverpool is shit... we ent winning nutten etc. etc.  Still doesn't detract from the criticism of the refereeing yesterday.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 02, 2011, 12:12:10 PM
   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."

This can't be the same Efan Ekoku who said yesterday that Luiz was lucky to have not been sent off and that he shouldn't have been on the pitch to score the equalizing goal.. is he?  By your metric he can't be neutral then... or is he just "neutral" according to whether says something you find agreeable?  Zhirkov sold a soft penalty and allyuh win, take yuh three points and be quiet.


...yes, yes I know... Liverpool is shit... we ent winning nutten etc. etc.  Still doesn't detract from the criticism of the refereeing yesterday.

Bakes, ah think that's the point Chow making..he see Efan as a neutral, and he just use the quote for the penalty to show how a "neutral" sees it. The same way as a "neutral" he thought Luiz should have gotten 2 yellows.  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 02, 2011, 12:22:29 PM
Bakes, ah think that's the point Chow making..he see Efan as a neutral, and he just use the quote for the penalty to show how a "neutral" sees it. The same way as a "neutral" he thought Luiz should have gotten 2 yellows.  :beermug:

Big Up!

Efan Ekoku guilty of the same thing Kicker supposedly guilty of... so how can one be "neutral" and the other not? 8)

   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney,
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."

This can't be the same Efan Ekoku who said yesterday that Luiz was lucky to have not been sent off and that he shouldn't have been on the pitch to score the equalizing goal.. is he?  By your metric he can't be neutral then... or is he just "neutral" according to whether says something you find agreeable?  Zhirkov sold a soft penalty and allyuh win, take yuh three points and be quiet.


...yes, yes I know... Liverpool is shit... we ent winning nutten etc. etc.  Still doesn't detract from the criticism of the refereeing yesterday.


  Here you come again like the jackass backside that you are, I knew it was only going to be a matter of time, but yes, the same Efan Ekoku that "didn't see much" in rooney's "body check" on Ramires after he dived and didn't get the call he wanted (both right in front the referee) but saw fit to claim that when Luiz did the same thing to chicharito, the HE should have gotten a yellow.  Yes the same Efan Ekoku.    So, of the two yellows that Luiz DID actually deserve,  one came after he scored, so he had every right to be on the pitch to score.  As far as that liverpool thing you trying to bring up wit yuh acid reflux, I like most posters on here, leave the red herrings to you, padnah.  I would not bring up liverpool's losing season as a detraction ffrom anything I have to say, especially when it has absolutley no bearing on the subject being discussed.  Evidently you've become so imbibed with the way you discuss/debate with people on this forum that you've come to automatically expect it of evrybody else. .  Nah, jed, not my style.  I will just quicker call you a phony c**thole because t, as far as I'm concerned, that is what yoou are.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 02, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
Bakes, ah think that's the point Chow making..he see Efan as a neutral, and he just use the quote for the penalty to show how a "neutral" sees it. The same way as a "neutral" he thought Luiz should have gotten 2 yellows.  :beermug:

Big Up!

Efan Ekoku guilty of the same thing Kicker supposedly guilty of... so how can one be "neutral" and the other not? 8)

   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney,


Maybe because Kicker "thought" the penalty was soft  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 02, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Maybe because Kicker "thought" the penalty was soft  ;D

Big Up!

As did I... and Efan Ekoku who said "I don't know how much contact there really was there"... in addition to saying that Atkinson had no choice.  The latter comment based on the fact that there was contact, minimal as it was, and initiated as it was by Khirkov.  Reminds me of 4 years ago when Mike Riley awarded Malouda a penalty for "foul" by Carragher... only to subsequently apologize and be demoted for it.



...watch Mango Fowl! gobble up dat piece ah corn
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 02, 2011, 12:51:13 PM
   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."

I think it was soft...regardless of how many similar ones were called before, and how many will be called after... I think you mixing up a soft call with an outright bad call... I personally think that many penalty calls in general are soft.  Players often go down easy, and if there's contact the refs are compelled to call it....I think it's a soft way to get a goal... I've seen Messi alot of times (and even Rooney a few times) get contact and in the box and decide to stay on their feet, and end up not finishing...If they went down, for sure they'd a pk...get my point?  A human "flaw" in the game IMO.   

You want to call my neutrality into question, dais your business... I didn't see every minute of the game (as ah was tiefin' a lil ting during work  ;D) so maybe I missed some of Rooney's infractions

Here's my post about Rooney in the Wigan game:

How did he not see red for that elbow?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Maybe because Kicker "thought" the penalty was soft  ;D

Big Up!

As did I... and Efan Ekoku who said "I don't know how much contact there really was there"... in addition to saying that Atkinson had no choice.  The latter comment based on the fact that there was contact, minimal as it was, and initiated as it was by Khirkov.  Reminds me of 4 years ago when Mike Riley awarded Malouda a penalty for "foul" by Carragher... only to subsequently apologize and be demoted for it.


If Efan Ekoku ever said "I don't know how much contact there really was there" he sure didn't say it after he watched the replay, which is when he did say the ref had no choice, nor did I hear him say it in real time, which is all the time Martin Atkinson had.  Now I could go ahead and do like you did when gerrard got his last red card and break down foot position and ball position and all that, but I won't.  Jhirkov was tripped. "Good call, ref!"  Yeah, Luiz shoulda got a second yellow.  But watchin'  a defender treat rooney like he ought to be treated and seein' it come from one of "my" defenders: PRICELESS! "Good job, ref!" :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 01:03:31 PM
   Kicker, please! I have seen many a call given for men leaving their "traiiling foot" behind to get all kindsa calls and ah doh see this much "neutrality" so that "trailing foot" thing seems to have become an accepted aspect of english football now.   I've also seen "softer" penalties given without all the fuss I seein' here.   How neutral can you be when I see you counting hummuch yellows Luiz shoulda had but yuh mention nutting about rooney, who coulda/shoulda had a couple yellows himself (if he shoulda even BE in the starting lineup in de first place).  So, in the words of commentator/analyst, Efan Ekoku, a man I trust is as equally neutral as you:   "I don't think Martin Atkinson has got any choice but to point to the spot, and no real complaints from smalling or, indeed, any of the manunited players."

I think it was soft...regardless of how many similar ones were called before, and how many will be called after... I think you mixing up a soft call with an outright bad call... I personally think that many penalty calls in general are soft.  Players often go down easy, and if there's contact the refs are compelled to call it....I think it's a soft way to get a goal....A human "flaw" in the game IMO.   

I fully agree with you, hence my comment about it being "accepted".  However, while you see it (or are forced to) as a flaw, I see it as incompetence.

You want to call my neutrality into question, dais your business... I didn't see every minute of the game (as ah was tiefin' a lil ting during work  ;D) so maybe I missed some of Rooney's infractions

Indeed I was doubting your neutrality....but since yuh didn't see the whole game.....I will say, "fair enough."

Here's my post about Rooney in the Wigan game:

How did he not see red for that elbow?

  Fir enough, Kicker.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 02, 2011, 06:44:35 PM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.

Rooney needs to get rough up so he might think about respecting his opponents next time he think about pelting elbow or a kick. That kind of selfish play could cost us a game. If players dishing it out they need to be able to take it also. I have nothing else to say about the ref, no use game over, time to move on.

I have always felt that way about rooney and I always thought that somebody would really put a hurtin' on him one day.   Even so, I really thought that he had matured alot and gotten past the stupid behaviour, but events this week and some over the past season or two has shown me that he really hasn't matured as much as I was tryin' to give him credit for.  He's an ass.

Rooney not playing well and he knows it. He letting his frustration get the better of him causing him to play nasty. When he was scoring last season he was better behaved.
He shit go cost we.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 02, 2011, 06:59:06 PM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.

Rooney needs to get rough up so he might think about respecting his opponents next time he think about pelting elbow or a kick. That kind of selfish play could cost us a game. If players dishing it out they need to be able to take it also. I have nothing else to say about the ref, no use game over, time to move on.

I have always felt that way about rooney and I always thought that somebody would really put a hurtin' on him one day.   Even so, I really thought that he had matured alot and gotten past the stupid behaviour, but events this week and some over the past season or two has shown me that he really hasn't matured as much as I was tryin' to give him credit for.  He's an ass.

Rooney not playing well and he knows it. He letting his frustration get the better of him causing him to play nasty. When he was scoring last season he was better behaved.
He shit go cost we.

I think he is frustrating himself as SAF has given him more than a fair chance to step back into top gear. Look how Berba was bemoaned for lack of effort and committment and to me it seems that roles are now reversed in terms of effort, but Rooney is given every chance.

He scored two amazing goals in recents times and he need to play on and not worry. I think his problem is in Berbatov increase mobility up to and now you add to that ChiChi boy. When Rooney was inform he had the entire frontline to himself, now he has to share that space and role big time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 02, 2011, 07:32:43 PM
WOWZERS

I now catch my breath..what a goal to win it.. some great games today particularly Nani, Vidic, Giggs, Rooney and Smalling.. the kid looks good alongside Rio or Vidic.. he handled the pressure well and was perfect

KICK ON!


lol I figured I'd give ya a minute to catch yuh breath after Rooney score that scorcher .... Yuh know Arsenal is meh team  but ......... BIG FACKING GOAL BY ROONEY DEY AYAH ..... AH BAWL FOR MERCY AND INSTANTLY PUT IT ON MEH FACEBOOK!

The bicycle was off his shin.  It look nice but it was down to luck and not technique.
I gone back 4 pages in the thread becuz I iz a hater.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 02, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
Anybody call dat penalty "soft" talkin' pure shit.  smalling stick he foot and trip de man.  Ref had no choice.  Is not like de liverpool defender that put he foot next to berbatov foot and berba fling heself on de ground. Please.  Yeah Luz shoulda get a second yellow.  Oh well.  He is obviously one of the few men in the EPL who knows how and is not afraid to give rooney what he need: some good man-handling.  rooney (like the typical manu player) always dishing out all kinda rough treatment and nasty play and every lil' bump and kick he get he in de ref face more than the damned whistle.  If yuh want to play nasty and dish out punishment, then hush yuh ass and take it like a man when it come your way.  BISHES!   manu fans, This title race is realistically over for we....all we can do at this point is make allyuh sweat for a trophy allyuh done have one hand on arready. Allyuh need to stop cryin' so much.

Rooney needs to get rough up so he might think about respecting his opponents next time he think about pelting elbow or a kick. That kind of selfish play could cost us a game. If players dishing it out they need to be able to take it also. I have nothing else to say about the ref, no use game over, time to move on.

I have always felt that way about rooney and I always thought that somebody would really put a hurtin' on him one day.   Even so, I really thought that he had matured alot and gotten past the stupid behaviour, but events this week and some over the past season or two has shown me that he really hasn't matured as much as I was tryin' to give him credit for.  He's an ass.

Rooney not playing well and he knows it. He letting his frustration get the better of him causing him to play nasty. When he was scoring last season he was better behaved.
He shit go cost we.

I think he is frustrating himself as SAF has given him more than a fair chance to step back into top gear. Look how Berba was bemoaned for lack of effort and committment and to me it seems that roles are now reversed in terms of effort, but Rooney is given every chance.

He scored two amazing goals in recents times and he need to play on and not worry. I think his problem is in Berbatov increase mobility up to and now you add to that ChiChi boy. When Rooney was inform he had the entire frontline to himself, now he has to share that space and role big time.

.....everything still comes down to a person's character and class.  Plenty players does get frustrated for all kinds of reasons.  It doh mean yuh must constantly be out there cussin' up and beratin' the refs and kickin' and shovin' and elbowin' people so.  Just last night FSC ran a re-broadcast the title-clinching game in '06 at Stamford Bridge and it was the same thing with him AND his manu cohorts.  Kickin' dong men, double stampin' and rel petulant behaviour all around the field.  They are sore losers and when things don't go their way, they start with their BS.  It turned out, as I was reminded, that was the same game where he had mashup his metatarsal in a collision with Carvalho and I coulda only say to myself that it served him right.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 02, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
WOWZERS

I now catch my breath..what a goal to win it.. some great games today particularly Nani, Vidic, Giggs, Rooney and Smalling.. the kid looks good alongside Rio or Vidic.. he handled the pressure well and was perfect

KICK ON!


lol I figured I'd give ya a minute to catch yuh breath after Rooney score that scorcher .... Yuh know Arsenal is meh team  but ......... BIG FACKING GOAL BY ROONEY DEY AYAH ..... AH BAWL FOR MERCY AND INSTANTLY PUT IT ON MEH FACEBOOK!

The bicycle was off his shin.  It look nice but it was down to luck and not technique.
I gone back 4 pages in the thread becuz I iz a hater.


c**t of the year goes to
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
WOWZERS

I now catch my breath..what a goal to win it.. some great games today particularly Nani, Vidic, Giggs, Rooney and Smalling.. the kid looks good alongside Rio or Vidic.. he handled the pressure well and was perfect

KICK ON!


lol I figured I'd give ya a minute to catch yuh breath after Rooney score that scorcher .... Yuh know Arsenal is meh team  but ......... BIG FACKING GOAL BY ROONEY DEY AYAH ..... AH BAWL FOR MERCY AND INSTANTLY PUT IT ON MEH FACEBOOK!

The bicycle was off his shin.  It look nice but it was down to luck and not technique.
I gone back 4 pages in the thread becuz I iz a hater.


u cant be for real right?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 02, 2011, 11:38:39 PM
Small Mag I guess yuh hands free to type even when yuh suckin rooney balls.
DHW yuh want picture evidence?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 03, 2011, 12:16:08 AM
Arite boss... Rooney goal was a fluke.. it take a deflection off a City defender head and went up in the air..Rooney's feet magically adjusted and then as the ball dropped he was possessed by something and took off into the air and his foot did some crazy motion , which was not meant by Rooney and the ball cannoned off his shin and luckily,oh so luckily flew into the top corner .

THAT LUCKY BASTARD
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 03, 2011, 10:43:55 AM
This should clear it up.

Pre-contact
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/peong21/Fullscreencapture322011115700PMbmp.jpg)
A brilliant shin-shot!
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/peong21/Fullscreencapture32201195929PMbmp.jpg)
Away it goes
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa133/peong21/Fullscreencapture322011115604PMbmp.jpg)

Any questions?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 03, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
^^^ Please don't argue with the fanboys... Rooney intended to hit the ball with his shin, a fine execution of technique.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 03, 2011, 12:04:28 PM
Small Mag I guess yuh hands free to type even when yuh suckin rooney balls.
DHW yuh want picture evidence?

does it matter?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 03, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
Like i end up in de wrong forum or what????

De last time i check this is still ah motherc&*t FOOTball forum right?!?!?!?!

Who gives ah flying f*&K wey de ball come off from (he didn't hands it right?), is ah motherc&*t BEST goal man!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Goal stands! Lets just get the results.  Play the fitball (copy right BM)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 03, 2011, 02:37:38 PM
Like i end up in de wrong forum or what????

De last time i check this is still ah motherc&*t FOOTball forum right?!?!?!?!

Who gives ah flying f*&K wey de ball come off from (he didn't hands it right?), is ah motherc&*t BEST goal man!!!
Doh worry with them, it's a Man.U player that score it, so it's a shit goal. As far as I see, that was a great attempt to hit the ball with his feet, it hit his shin and still score. I don't see anything wrong with the goal. It's a best goal still.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 03, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
Like i end up in de wrong forum or what????

De last time i check this is still ah motherc&*t FOOTball forum right?!?!?!?!

Who gives ah flying f*&K wey de ball come off from (he didn't hands it right?), is ah motherc&*t BEST goal man!!!
Doh worry with them, it's a Man.U player that score it, so it's a shit goal. As far as I see, that was a great attempt to hit the ball with his feet, it hit his shin and still score. I don't see anything wrong with the goal. It's a best goal still.

No it is not no best goal, but rather a good imitation of a best goal.
What will you call a bicycle where the player actually connects the way he intended?  Bestest? 
I understand that ppl get carried away because they didn't quite see that it wasn't a clean hit, and that is fine.
But after seeing the truth, that goal cannot be classified in the same category as true "best" goals.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on March 03, 2011, 03:08:21 PM
cyat
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 03, 2011, 03:56:55 PM
Michael Carrick signs new three-year deal at Manchester United

What every United fan wants to hear....  ::)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/03/michael-carrick-deal-manchester-united/print

The Manchester United midfielder Michael Carrick has signed a new three-year contract that will keep him at the club until the end of the 2013-14 season.

The 29-year-old England player made his debut for United in August 2006, after signing from Tottenham Hotspur. He has made 218 appearances for United, scoring 17 goals and winning three Premier League titles, one League Cup, one Champions League and the Club World Cup.

The Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, said: "I am delighted Michael has signed a new contract. He has been outstanding since joining us from Tottenham Hotspur in 2006, he is a true professional and it's great he has committed his future to the club."

Carrick said: "I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at this great club. There is fantastic team spirit within the squad and I'm pleased to have committed my future to United. We are in a very good position at the moment and I am confident this team will be successful for many years to come."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 03, 2011, 04:05:37 PM
Like i end up in de wrong forum or what????

De last time i check this is still ah motherc&*t FOOTball forum right?!?!?!?!

Who gives ah flying f*&K wey de ball come off from (he didn't hands it right?), is ah motherc&*t BEST goal man!!!
Doh worry with them, it's a Man.U player that score it, so it's a shit goal. As far as I see, that was a great attempt to hit the ball with his feet, it hit his shin and still score. I don't see anything wrong with the goal. It's a best goal still.

No it is not no best goal, but rather a good imitation of a best goal.
What will you call a bicycle where the player actually connects the way he intended?  Bestest? 
I understand that ppl get carried away because they didn't quite see that it wasn't a clean hit, and that is fine.
But after seeing the truth, that goal cannot be classified in the same category as true "best" goals.


 Nah boy, Peong....as a manu hater I applaud yuh tryin to put up dis fight....I tink everybody knew he didn't hit it flush, but yuh cyah take away from it.....it was still a beauty of a goal....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 03, 2011, 04:06:48 PM
Michael Carrick signs new three-year deal at Manchester United

What every United fan wants to hear....  ::)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/03/michael-carrick-deal-manchester-united/print

The Manchester United midfielder Michael Carrick has signed a new three-year contract that will keep him at the club until the end of the 2013-14 season.

The 29-year-old England player made his debut for United in August 2006, after signing from Tottenham Hotspur. He has made 218 appearances for United, scoring 17 goals and winning three Premier League titles, one League Cup, one Champions League and the Club World Cup.

The Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, said: "I am delighted Michael has signed a new contract. He has been outstanding since joining us from Tottenham Hotspur in 2006, he is a true professional and it's great he has committed his future to the club."

Carrick said: "I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at this great club. There is fantastic team spirit within the squad and I'm pleased to have committed my future to United. We are in a very good position at the moment and I am confident this team will be successful for many years to come."


Oh lord no! Please doh tell me we bringing back the same shitty midfield next year! I have faith the answer is no.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 03, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
Michael Carrick signs new three-year deal at Manchester United

What every United fan wants to hear....  ::)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/03/michael-carrick-deal-manchester-united/print

The Manchester United midfielder Michael Carrick has signed a new three-year contract that will keep him at the club until the end of the 2013-14 season.

The 29-year-old England player made his debut for United in August 2006, after signing from Tottenham Hotspur. He has made 218 appearances for United, scoring 17 goals and winning three Premier League titles, one League Cup, one Champions League and the Club World Cup.

The Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, said: "I am delighted Michael has signed a new contract. He has been outstanding since joining us from Tottenham Hotspur in 2006, he is a true professional and it's great he has committed his future to the club."

Carrick said: "I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at this great club. There is fantastic team spirit within the squad and I'm pleased to have committed my future to United. We are in a very good position at the moment and I am confident this team will be successful for many years to come."


Oh lord no! Please doh tell me we bringing back the same shitty midfield next year! I have faith the answer is no.

Sadly, the answer is yes...   >:(
I see Pogba and Tunnicliffe et al getting to train with the first team. Maybe next year is the year for bringing in the youth.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 03, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
Mixed views on this.. alot of people thought Carrick's time is up at Old Trafford... he seems to have no desire and ambition to come back to life when he was rated one of the best passers in Football between 2006-2009... he has gone off the boil for too long and it is baffling why he is rewarded with an extension

We all know what he is capable of on his best day but I cant see him being motivated and on form to ever get back to his best..I hope I am wrong..I'll support him 100% as I've always liked Carrick.. he is just boring and not the Carrick we know for far too long.. hopefully this can send a spark up his ass to get playing again

Fergie not stupid though... He watching the options.. next season is Fletcher Carrick and Anderson as the main 3 with hopefully a new signing in Modric or Sahin.. Scholes will play a bit part role and Cleverley will get his chances too... Hargreaves future looks over unfortunately ...Gibbo will either be sold or loaned out and with Anderson being very injury prone and we cant depend on 36 year old Scholes week in week out we need to be bolstered in CM and Carrick over Gibson any day of the week. And we play 3 in CM in Europe so even more need for him.

And Fergie loves Carrick..he's been in our top 5 appearances for the season for the last 3 in a row

So next season our Midfield should look like this:

Wingers : Nani, Valencia, New Guy(Sanchez, Bale etc) , Giggs, Park , Obertan (maybe)
Bebe loaned out

CM: Fletcher, Carrick, New Guy( Modric, Sahin, Defour) Scholes, Anderson, Cleverley



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 03, 2011, 04:43:06 PM
Carrick was always boring.  Well polished baller with good technique...but nothing special physically and very little individual expression

Players like Carrick highlight the fact that CR did so much for Man U's attack by drawing so many opposing players to him that he created room for average players like Carrick to spread the ball around and look decent.  Look at Carrick in the England set up...booo...nada....

Ever since CR left players like Carrick have been exposed as just about average.  Gifted players who have more than they can teach in a clinic...like Scholes, Rooney, Nani, Berba and Giggs all stepped up with CR left...the others just remained role players

Modric would be a great target for Utd...a polished central defender with good feet like David Luiz (not yet polished but good feet) for e.g. would also be a good long term buy.  Smalling is a good player but he is not Man Utd central defensive calibre. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 03, 2011, 05:34:26 PM
Carrick was always boring.  Well polished baller with good technique...but nothing special physically and very little individual expression

Players like Carrick highlight the fact that CR did so much for Man U's attack by drawing so many opposing players to him that he created room for average players like Carrick to spread the ball around and look decent.  Look at Carrick in the England set up...booo...nada....Ever since CR left players like Carrick have been exposed as just about average.  Gifted players who have more than they can teach in a clinic...like Scholes, Rooney, Nani, Berba and Giggs all stepped up with CR left...the others just remained role players

Modric would be a great target for Utd...a polished central defender with good feet like David Luiz (not yet polished but good feet) for e.g. would also be a good long term buy.  Smalling is a good player but he is not Man Utd central defensive calibre. 
You made allot of sense here. You are right about him having more room to play when CR7 was there. I thought he was a very good passer of the ball, looking back on it now, it was only because he had allot of room.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: samo on March 03, 2011, 05:59:56 PM
I hate ManU ... But goal is goal.. It look good whether intentoal or not,but most importantly, the goal counted...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 03, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
This is how a bicycle is meant to be executed.  Rooney's was not of this standard.
To say Rooney's is "best" is lowering standards.
And yes, I hate Man U.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/v/tgIB9BmTXaU
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 03, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Rooney goal was a bess goal... to say that it was great execution and all ah dat is talking ah pack ah shit, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a boss goal.  Some of the best goals have a element of luck mixed in with technique.  Take Figueroa's goal from midfield for Wigan against Stoke last year... it was fluky in the sense that 9 times out of 10 Kirkland would have been better positioned on his line, but the stars aligned, Figueroa take a chance and he end up scoring a boss goal.  Same with Rooney, he try ah thing and it work out... in splendid fashion, particularly given the rivalry, particularly given the stakes = boss/bess goal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 03, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
It so happen meh pardner just post this on facebook

http://www.youtube.com/v/mzo0In6JblU&feature=player_embedded#at=18
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 04, 2011, 06:13:07 AM
This is how a bicycle is meant to be executed.  Rooney's was not of this standard.
To say Rooney's is "best" is lowering standards.
And yes, I hate Man U.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/v/tgIB9BmTXaU

so u feel Man U like u?
 ;D
some serious stalking u put down there boy  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 06:42:03 AM
It so happen meh pardner just post this on facebook

http://www.youtube.com/v/mzo0In6JblU&feature=player_embedded#at=18

Dem Brazilians doin' dat in futsal and beach soccer on a regular.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on March 04, 2011, 08:31:53 AM
Somebody posted this on the smb, couldn't resist putting it on here:-

From Harry Pearson's column

As a friend remarked after Saturday's Rooney-related fiasco at the DW: "You have to admire Manchester United's strength in depth. I mean, they can rest Howard Webb knowing they've got Mark Clattenburg on the bench."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2011, 08:36:46 AM
Fletcher signs new 4 Year Deal

Berba and Scholes next apparently


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 04, 2011, 08:37:09 AM
Carrick was always boring.  Well polished baller with good technique...but nothing special physically and very little individual expression

Players like Carrick highlight the fact that CR did so much for Man U's attack by drawing so many opposing players to him that he created room for average players like Carrick to spread the ball around and look decent.  Look at Carrick in the England set up...booo...nada....

Ever since CR left players like Carrick have been exposed as just about average.  Gifted players who have more than they can teach in a clinic...like Scholes, Rooney, Nani, Berba and Giggs all stepped up with CR left...the others just remained role players

Modric would be a great target for Utd...a polished central defender with good feet like David Luiz (not yet polished but good feet) for e.g. would also be a good long term buy.  Smalling is a good player but he is not Man Utd central defensive calibre. 

 I disagree about Smalling. He WILL make it. He seems to have the nerves necessary, unlike Evans. All he needs is experience and blooding alongside killers like Vidic and Rio. He cannot ask for a better education right now.

I ALWAYS thought Carrick was average, CR7 or not.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 04, 2011, 09:10:49 AM
Rooney goal was a bess goal... to say that it was great execution and all ah dat is talking ah pack ah shit, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a boss goal.  Some of the best goals have a element of luck mixed in with technique.  Take Figueroa's goal from midfield for Brum against Stoke last year... it was fluky in the sense that 9 times out of 10 Kirkland would have been better positioned on his line, but the stars aligned, Figueroa take a chance and he end up scoring a boss goal.  Same with Rooney, he try ah thing and it work out... in splendid fashion, particularly given the rivalry, particularly given the stakes = boss/bess goal.

A mis-kicked goal can never get top rating in terms of goal quality.  I don't remember Figueroa's goal but did he do what he intended to do?  That is the most important distinction.
Ppl just got carried away over Rooney's goal because 1. most ppl up to today think it was true strike, and 2. it is Rooney/Man Utd.
The occasion was also a factor but less so than 1 and 2.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 04, 2011, 09:22:35 AM
Carrick was always boring.  Well polished baller with good technique...but nothing special physically and very little individual expression

Players like Carrick highlight the fact that CR did so much for Man U's attack by drawing so many opposing players to him that he created room for average players like Carrick to spread the ball around and look decent.  Look at Carrick in the England set up...booo...nada....

Ever since CR left players like Carrick have been exposed as just about average.  Gifted players who have more than they can teach in a clinic...like Scholes, Rooney, Nani, Berba and Giggs all stepped up with CR left...the others just remained role players

Modric would be a great target for Utd...a polished central defender with good feet like David Luiz (not yet polished but good feet) for e.g. would also be a good long term buy.  Smalling is a good player but he is not Man Utd central defensive calibre. 

 I disagree about Smalling. He WILL make it. He seems to have the nerves necessary, unlike Evans. All he needs is experience and blooding alongside killers like Vidic and Rio. He cannot ask for a better education right now.

I ALWAYS thought Carrick was average, CR7 or not.


Imagine learning from Ferdinand........wow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 04, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
A mis-kicked goal can never get top rating in terms of goal quality.  I don't remember Figueroa's goal but did he do what he intended to do?  That is the most important distinction.

Rooney meant to bicycle the ball, and he meant to score.  He did both.  There was no fluke.  He execution was damn near perfect, as far as the timing (pulling the ball out of the air at its highest point), the power he got off the shot and the placement of the ball when it hit the net...and it takes a certain level of audacity and confidence to pull that off too - it was top class......ok it came off his shin...so what - it still came off with more than enough power and accuracy....  Not to mention it was a derby winner in the dying minutes of the game... Frigging movies are made of moments like that.....I eh know what allyuh iz get out of fighting down a man jed...It was a fantastic goal. 

Figueroa's goal wasn't a fluke as far as what he meant to do either...I think Bakes was saying that 9 times out of ten the goalkeeper wouldn't be caught napping but his awareness and execution were also near perfect. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 04, 2011, 11:00:47 AM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 11:05:50 AM
Carrick was always boring.  Well polished baller with good technique...but nothing special physically and very little individual expression

Players like Carrick highlight the fact that CR did so much for Man U's attack by drawing so many opposing players to him that he created room for average players like Carrick to spread the ball around and look decent.  Look at Carrick in the England set up...booo...nada....

Ever since CR left players like Carrick have been exposed as just about average.  Gifted players who have more than they can teach in a clinic...like Scholes, Rooney, Nani, Berba and Giggs all stepped up with CR left...the others just remained role players

Modric would be a great target for Utd...a polished central defender with good feet like David Luiz (not yet polished but good feet) for e.g. would also be a good long term buy.  Smalling is a good player but he is not Man Utd central defensive calibre. 

 I disagree about Smalling. He WILL make it. He seems to have the nerves necessary, unlike Evans. All he needs is experience and blooding alongside killers like Vidic and Rio. He cannot ask for a better education right now.

I ALWAYS thought Carrick was average, CR7 or not.


Imagine learning from Ferdinand........wow

  What you mean, elan, Blind leading the blind?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 11:08:55 AM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 04, 2011, 12:03:01 PM
The fact that it was hit using his shin means that it was an improperly executed bicycle kick.
If you didn't realise it was mis-kicked before, then ok, but once you see it you can't dispute that.

I think most of the ppl who still say it was a great goal are swayed by their first impression of the goal, because it did look fantastic. 

I've never seen so much praise for a mis-hit goal before.
Can anyone show me another mis-kicked goal that was praised nearly as much as Rooney's? 
Any kind of mis-hit goal, doesn't have to be an overhead.

I was surprised that it being a mis-kick got so little mention.  I didn't read it in any of the 4 match reports that I read.  In fact I think the only place I saw it mentioned were in reader comments at the end of articles.
And on Match of the Day they didn't point it out. Normally they are good about spotting and highlighting things like this, so I have to wonder if they intentionally left it out so that they could heap praise on England's golden boy.

Check this comment from goal.com:
hi iam Wayne Rooney's shin guard and iam mad !!! why am i mad ??? .. well cause i scored that goal why is he getting the credit for my goal .. i scored that goal :) .. WATCH and SEE !!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 04, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
I is ah man U hater...but oh gorm man...it was ah great goal..doh matter if it had hit his nose, it was still great, given the context of the game...and it was also a GAME WINNER!!!!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 04, 2011, 01:23:27 PM
Peong it's one thing to just miss hit a regular shot and get lucky, but there's alot that goes into a bicycle kick that could render it a good goal regardless of the fact that it wasn't struck perfectly.

I think we're overthinking this. 

I imagine that most players at any level would be very proud of that goal...regardless of what us nobodys on a message board think.

Funny quote from soccer.com lol - If you can't get the experts and football fan base in general to agree with you, try getting feedback from an inanimate object (like a shin guard)....

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 04, 2011, 01:42:11 PM
They should award he goal to Rooney's shin and not Rooney.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 02:25:40 PM
Peong, come nah maaaaaan.......as far as technical execution is concerned, ok, maybe rooney lose points to Hugo Sanchez....and I, too, find the american media was rushin' too fast to label it as the "greatest bicycle kick ever" but oh gorsh, man, yuh cyah argue that it was a great goal man.  As a matter of fact, if my memory serves me correctly, given all the components to the goal (game-winner; fierce rival, etc.,) it's not the first great goal that rooney has scored. My actual favourite bicycle kick is de one RoRo put dong fuh Barca but it ain't because of the final execution, which was lacking in power, but for the reason and the way he set it up.....but even so, it would be kinda hard for me to say his own was better than rooney own.  As kicker say, there are so many components to executing a bicycle kick that you really would probably be hard pressed to find them having a very high rate of technical execution, whether they score or not.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 02:27:04 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about



  Arright, sorry, ah had forget about you.  Make it one and a half.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2011, 02:32:20 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about



  Arright, sorry, ah had forget about you.  Make it one and a half.

my bad  :beermug:

Lol who you on about though?  Peong awa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about



  Arright, sorry, ah had forget about you.  Make it one and a half.

my bad  :beermug:

Lol who you on about though?  Peong awa

Nah, it could never be Peong.  It could ONLY be fakes bakes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 04, 2011, 03:00:53 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about



  Arright, sorry, ah had forget about you.  Make it one and a half.

Like yuh had Smalls worried boy! LOL!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
ahahahaha,  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 04, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
Rooney's B-kick will go down as one of the best. There are some that rank top class as this one by Klaus Fischer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkHdkD_-UY
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 04, 2011, 03:39:54 PM
Kicker it was a very good attempt, but better can be done, and is done by other players.
Rooney's goal was praised the same way as if he did connect with it cleanly, and praised a lot more than other bicycled goals.
That only makes sense if you get sucked in by the hype.

Mango Chow it was the British media that hyped it up first.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on March 04, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
See why ah like dis forum, we could all co-exist, men like Peong could have their opinion on ah best goal and would respect de opinions of others.
He wouldn't try to shove his own opinion down other men throats.

Nuff forumites respect Peong for his opinion (and research) in this matter, and Peong also respects the opinions of others.

Ah rel like dat.


  Is only ONE asshole does really come on here and want to turn the furum into a pissin' contest, and yuh know he's a phony because he would never talk to people face-to-face de way he does come on here and talk down to people....that have a different opinion than him.

I would love to know who you on about



  Arright, sorry, ah had forget about you.  Make it one and a half.

my bad  :beermug:

Lol who you on about though?  Peong awa

Nah, it could never be Peong.  It could ONLY be fakes bakes.
I thought it was RF
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 04, 2011, 04:02:08 PM
I honestly thought Bakes lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 04, 2011, 04:56:05 PM
Bake & Shark together with a lil Mango Chow does go down real good...but apparently not on this message board

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 04, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
Mango Chow it was the British media that hyped it up first.

  Ah doh doubt that they hyped it up first, Peong, and quite frankly, I expect they would have....but it was nauseating on my end, flippin' through channels and seein' them on different programs goin' on about it and knowing that it was probably the only one they had ever see. It was disgusting.

Bake & Shark together with a lil Mango Chow does go down real good...but apparently not on this message board

 ;D

I doh even mix de two outside de forum.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 04, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2011, 08:14:55 PM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 04, 2011, 10:40:27 PM
Nah, it could never be Peong.  It could ONLY be fakes bakes.

It's kinda funny, sad and disturbing, all rolled up into one... to know that I could get under yuh skin so easy without trying. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 05, 2011, 03:45:25 AM
Nah, it could never be Peong.  It could ONLY be fakes bakes.

It's kinda funny, sad and disturbing, all rolled up into one... to know that I could get under yuh skin so easy without trying. 

Well, let's just put all jokes, sadness and disturbances aside for a second and deal with TRUTH.  TRUTH is, that, as I've pointed out before, if this...."forum" were of a more personal setting, like everybody sittin' down in a bar or something, I guarantee you would be far more tactful in your tone, and diplomatic in your debates with people than you does come on here and purport yourself to be....and you would be that without even trying.  Men like you cyah go certain parts of Trinidad and talk at people the way you does do it on the internet, otherwise, people woulda gotten under your skin, and I eh talkin' 'bout "with words" either.  So really and truly, the only thing that is funny and sad but really disturbing for you, is that fake personna of yours.  Every time yuh open yuh mouth on here, yuh contradicting yuh "self".   So don't flatter yourself to assume you gettin' under my skin as much as I am simply seeing through you. Go back and read my post.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 05, 2011, 04:07:24 AM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:


Doh worry, everyting we get, we does give in return! But I eh go lie, peter schmeichel was a rel boss in trute.....I tink he spoil fergie....now he only want experiened 'keepers in goal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 05, 2011, 05:38:00 AM
This is a Man U Appreciation Thread... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 08:03:02 AM
Nah, it could never be Peong.  It could ONLY be fakes bakes.

It's kinda funny, sad and disturbing, all rolled up into one... to know that I could get under yuh skin so easy without trying. 

Well, let's just put all jokes, sadness and disturbances aside for a second and deal with TRUTH.  TRUTH is, that, as I've pointed out before, if this...."forum" were of a more personal setting, like everybody sittin' down in a bar or something, I guarantee you would be far more tactful in your tone, and diplomatic in your debates with people than you does come on here and purport yourself to be....and you would be that without even trying.  Men like you cyah go certain parts of Trinidad and talk at people the way you does do it on the internet, otherwise, people woulda gotten under your skin, and I eh talkin' 'bout "with words" either.  So really and truly, the only thing that is funny and sad but really disturbing for you, is that fake personna of yours.  Every time yuh open yuh mouth on here, yuh contradicting yuh "self".   So don't flatter yourself to assume you gettin' under my skin as much as I am simply seeing through you. Go back and read my post.

 :whip: :whip: :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 08:07:46 AM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:


Doh worry, everyting we get, we does give in return! But I eh go lie, peter schmeichel was a rel boss in trute.....I tink he spoil fergie....now he only want experiened 'keepers in goal.

Yeah but Schmeichel came to United young and relatively unknown. But he had all the tools to grow excel. To bad the mental pressure of having to prepare him self to perform week in an week out led to him to flame out. Fergie should have gone for Van Der Sar right after. Still can't believe that he was saving for Fulham and we had all kinds of shitsnakes letting in goals tru dey legs or catchin balls over the goal line! Well yes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 08:11:49 AM
This is a Man U Appreciation Thread... :beermug:

As a United fan how can you not love this club; which are some of the same reasons we have has many hators! All good!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 05, 2011, 08:16:42 AM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:

That team in particular was a favourite of mine. I remember Ferguson saying that this was a team of warriors; they could play football, and if the other team wanted to mix it up, they could do that as well. This team also showed Ferguson's skill at transitions. Keane and Giggs were the bridge to the team(s) that came after.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 08:47:10 AM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:

That team in particular was a favourite of mine. I remember Ferguson saying that this was a team of warriors; they could play football, and if the other team wanted to mix it up, they could do that as well. This team also showed Ferguson's skill at transitions. Keane and Giggs were the bridge to the team(s) that came after.


Devestating side; power, speed, high footballing IQ and skill! Gives me chills because they were never out off a match. They would also shift to a higher gear if a team decided to try to go toe to toe with them! I miss that from our side today. Hope we can pullin some players who bring that quality back.  Sometimes we have seen it when Giggsy, Berbatov, Nani and Rooney on their games at the same time but we haven't gotten it game in and game out!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Looking at at Man United vs. Chelsea from 1994 on FSC.
It's great to see these old sides.
Young Giggs, young Keane, Bruce, Pallister, Sparky, The Guvnor, Scmeichel, Kanchelskis and of course, King Cantona.
Memories...

thank you! i love to see Peter in goal. Great keeper

edit: LOL Chelsea get 4  :devil:


Doh worry, everyting we get, we does give in return! But I eh go lie, peter schmeichel was a rel boss in trute.....I tink he spoil fergie....now he only want experiened 'keepers in goal.

Yeah but Schmeichel came to United young and relatively unknown. But he had all the tools to grow excel. To bad the mental pressure of having to prepare him self to perform week in an week out led to him to flame out. Fergie should have gone for Van Der Sar right after. Still can't believe that he was saving for Fulham and we had all kinds of shitsnakes letting in goals tru dey legs or catchin balls over the goal line! Well yes!


lol remember this c**t , lord i remember that day i was watching this game lol

Massimo Taibi 'The Blind Venetian'  - d worse dread
http://www.youtube.com/v/3CygwlKDYm0

Roy Carol - this next f**ker get lucky that day, ref aint see this
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_02/MachestLinePA_468x319.jpg)

then you have this head case
Mark Bosnich
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00540/SNN2824MB2_280_540287a.jpg)

then u have this crazy man , sigh  :-X
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01812/Fabien_Barthez_1812681i.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 05, 2011, 11:00:49 AM
Well, let's just put all jokes, sadness and disturbances aside for a second and deal with TRUTH.  TRUTH is, that, as I've pointed out before, if this...."forum" were of a more personal setting, like everybody sittin' down in a bar or something, I guarantee you would be far more tactful in your tone, and diplomatic in your debates with people than you does come on here and purport yourself to be....and you would be that without even trying.  Men like you cyah go certain parts of Trinidad and talk at people the way you does do it on the internet, otherwise, people woulda gotten under your skin, and I eh talkin' 'bout "with words" either.  So really and truly, the only thing that is funny and sad but really disturbing for you, is that fake personna of yours.  Every time yuh open yuh mouth on here, yuh contradicting yuh "self".   So don't flatter yourself to assume you gettin' under my skin as much as I am simply seeing through you. Go back and read my post.

Posted at 4:45 am.... edited at 5:03 am.  Yuh had to think about dah one and come back boy... good thing ah doh get under yuh skin, yuh mighta take ah hour fixing it.  If it make yuh feel better yelling "phony" at yuh computer screen then keep singing dat song to yuhself pardna.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 05, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
Well, let's just put all jokes, sadness and disturbances aside for a second and deal with TRUTH.  TRUTH is, that, as I've pointed out before, if this...."forum" were of a more personal setting, like everybody sittin' down in a bar or something, I guarantee you would be far more tactful in your tone, and diplomatic in your debates with people than you does come on here and purport yourself to be....and you would be that without even trying.  Men like you cyah go certain parts of Trinidad and talk at people the way you does do it on the internet, otherwise, people woulda gotten under your skin, and I eh talkin' 'bout "with words" either.  So really and truly, the only thing that is funny and sad but really disturbing for you, is that fake personna of yours.  Every time yuh open yuh mouth on here, yuh contradicting yuh "self".   So don't flatter yourself to assume you gettin' under my skin as much as I am simply seeing through you. Go back and read my post.

Posted at 4:45 am.... edited at 5:03 am.  Yuh had to think about dah one and come back boy... good thing ah doh get under yuh skin, yuh mighta take ah hour fixing it.  If it make yuh feel better yelling "phony" at yuh computer screen then keep singing dat song to yuhself pardna.

I coulda spend whole day from midnight fixin' it, thinkin' about it, yellin' whatever.  It doesn't change anything I said.  Now if yuh feel yuh want to help meh out wit meh yellin' at the the computer screen, we could always meet up somewhere so ah could put a face to the computer screen and you could put a voice to the yellin' and that should give yuh a real opportunity to see how much yuh think yuh does get under my skin.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2011, 07:22:46 PM
 :whip: dingolay , let me go back in my hole where it safe yes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 07:38:48 PM
:whip: dingolay , let me go back in my hole where it safe yes

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 05, 2011, 08:04:49 PM
Truly the sign of a great club... even the haters opposing each other  :o

Die hard why yuh so evil... ah see carol, taibi and bartez face dey and it sour meh night... now ah have to put off watching Eat, Pray Love with the wife  8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 05, 2011, 08:07:03 PM
Truly the sign of a great club... even the haters opposing each other  :o

Die hard why yuh so evil... ah see carol, taibi and bartez face dey and it sour meh night... now ah have to put off watching Eat, Pray Love with the wife  8)
[/q


Leave it tuh Diehard to save the night! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 05, 2011, 10:51:09 PM
I coulda spend whole day from midnight fixin' it, thinkin' about it, yellin' whatever.  It doesn't change anything I said.  Now if yuh feel yuh want to help meh out wit meh yellin' at the the computer screen, we could always meet up somewhere so ah could put a face to the computer screen and you could put a voice to the yellin' and that should give yuh a real opportunity to see how much yuh think yuh does get under my skin.

I always out and about so yuh never know... but I doh go out ah mih way to meet man, sorry to disappoint yuh.  Besides, suppose yuh expose mih fuh de fraud yuh claim ah is... how ah suppose to come back and play bad online after that ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 08:18:19 AM
A sniper just shot Nani.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 08:23:01 AM
I coulda spend whole day from midnight fixin' it, thinkin' about it, yellin' whatever.  It doesn't change anything I said.  Now if yuh feel yuh want to help meh out wit meh yellin' at the the computer screen, we could always meet up somewhere so ah could put a face to the computer screen and you could put a voice to the yellin' and that should give yuh a real opportunity to see how much yuh think yuh does get under my skin.

I always out and about so yuh never know... but I doh go out ah mih way to meet man, sorry to disappoint yuh.  Besides, suppose yuh expose mih fuh de fraud yuh claim ah is... how ah suppose to come back and play bad online after that ???

It's quite clear you already have that all figured out.

A sniper just shot Nani.

...yuh know.....for some unexplainable reason, even though Carragher did commit a bad foul.....I jes' cyah feel sorry fuh the likes of any of these manu players boy.  (I guess even if a sniper was really to shoot 'im)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
Why did Nani lash out at the medic?  That seemed uncalled for.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 08:34:17 AM
Why did Nani lash out at the medic?  That seemed uncalled for.

 ...part of the play-acting, temper tantrum charade.  When yuh think about it, sports are the ultimate reality-tv show.  Yuh tink if fergie had venture out at his side to check on 'im he woulda mistake he fuh a punching bag so?  I seriously doubt it.  What I really want to know is, (since I missed it) I watchin' the replay of the first goal and scratchin' my head like bone-buryin' dog to figure out what it is van der saar was rushing over to the linesman in such a heat to argue about.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 06, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

Yuh know what even when I was watching live I didn't see it dat way, den mister announcer say it and ketch people wid he stupidness!!!!!

Ah know men have de ability to get frame by frame footage and dem kinda ting:)

And ah guess de fact dat he was able to get up and run after de tackle means dat it really, really wasn't ah breakfoot tackle...ah supposed Fergie decide to sub him out to sell de fact dat Carragher should have gotten ah red.

What de ass happen to de Red Devils today?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 08:49:30 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

Yuh know what even when I was watching live I didn't see it dat way, den mister announcer say it and ketch people wid he stupidness!!!!!

Ah know men have de ability to get frame by frame footage and dem kinda ting:)

And ah guess de fact dat he was able to get up and run after de tackle means dat it really, really wasn't ah breakfoot tackle...ah supposed Fergie decide to sub him out to sell de fact dat Carragher should have gotten ah red.

What de ass happen to de Red Devils today?!?!?!?!

  I eh know who he really hit because in real time,,, to me is de official standing over him he had hit on he leg.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 08:52:40 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

If yuh want to rant and rave just to say he didn't, ok but at least say what actually happened.
I see Nani arm swing near the medic face and he had to brakes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2011, 08:58:07 AM
oh f**k man! stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 09:00:06 AM
That is how it should be, players act like cornts and then get their asses handed to them.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 06, 2011, 09:00:31 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

If yuh want to rant and rave just to say he didn't, ok but at least say what actually happened.
I see Nani arm swing near the medic face and he had to brakes.


boss me eh ranting and raving, i respect you see what you see, but i see what i see.....anyway, moving right along, dais it for we today hattrick for de dutchman, oh well!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 09:02:39 AM
The commentators puttin' most of the blame on van der saar, but is really the players in the wall that cause dat.   Game done.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 09:06:28 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

If yuh want to rant and rave just to say he didn't, ok but at least say what actually happened.
I see Nani arm swing near the medic face and he had to brakes.


boss me eh ranting and raving, i respect you see what you see, but i see what i see.....anyway, moving right along, dais it for we today hattrick for de dutchman, oh well!!!!
 

So what did you see?  Up to now yuh eh say.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 06, 2011, 09:13:35 AM
scratchin' my head like bone-buryin' dog to figure out what it is van der saar was rushing over to the linesman in such a heat to argue about.

I believe he thought Kuyt was offside on the line when the ball came across. When Suarez beat Van Der Sar, There was nobody else behind him.

Either that, or he just wanted to cuss somebody and figure he could rough up the linesman.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 09:17:03 AM
scratchin' my head like bone-buryin' dog to figure out what it is van der saar was rushing over to the linesman in such a heat to argue about.

I believe he thought Kuyt was offside on the line when the ball came across. When Suarez beat Van Der Sar, There was nobody else behind him.

Either that, or he just wanted to cuss somebody and figure he could rough up the linesman.

 :rotfl:.....ah go look hard at the replays again, but from what I already have seen, ah have more faith in yuh latter option.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 06, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
Sad, just sad. And I can't believe we resigned some of these players like Carrick tuh comeback. We need to clean house. Same issue the past two years no creativity in midfield, plus we get slower, older and less athletic! Rooney needs to go also!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 06, 2011, 09:25:30 AM
3-1! The comeback is on.... come back to Old Trafford with ah L
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 06, 2011, 09:25:49 AM
Undone by King Kenny today.....Good game in the end for Liverfool.

We still winning it....... :beermug: :devil: :angel: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2011, 09:26:08 AM
beaten like a bobolee. speechless   :-X
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 06, 2011, 09:27:26 AM
Look a new chant for allyuh:

Man U is in front of us, Time to get advantageous
Nani is in front of us, Time to get advantageous
Rooney is in front of us, Time to get advantageous
Stamp on it! Stamp on it! Trample it! Ramphle it!
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2011, 09:37:15 AM
Poor.. simple as that

they were brilliant and used intensity and our flat not interested players couldnt deal with it..I couldnt believe that is how United approached this game.. no intensity no desire

One of the all time embarrassing performances in my opinion... I am shamed to be a United fan at the moment..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 06, 2011, 09:37:33 AM
oh mother cu^&T man, Nani did NOT "swipe out" at no medical person!!!! Contrary to what de cacahole announcer say!!!!

If yuh want to rant and rave just to say he didn't, ok but at least say what actually happened.
I see Nani arm swing near the medic face and he had to brakes.


Swung his left arm backwards... and de ole white head fella had tuh pull back to avoid the forearm.  But maybe I get fool by de announcer too...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 06, 2011, 09:37:50 AM
Fergie lucky Kenny did hang up he coaching wuck for ah long while...




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 06, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
I believe he thought Kuyt was offside on the line when the ball came across. When Suarez beat Van Der Sar, There was nobody else behind him.

Either that, or he just wanted to cuss somebody and figure he could rough up the linesman.

Seems he was protesting for offside, but the last defender got a nick on the ball for one, and Kuyt was behind the ball for another.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2011, 09:53:52 AM
Fergie lucky Kenny did hang up he coaching wuck for ah long while...






his 5th win in 26 vs Fergie

Get the f**k outta here
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 09:55:54 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2011, 09:57:11 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


no.. VDS thought it was because it looked offside at first but replays showed he(kuyt) was behind the ball

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 06, 2011, 09:59:26 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 10:00:02 AM
scratchin' my head like bone-buryin' dog to figure out what it is van der saar was rushing over to the linesman in such a heat to argue about.

I believe he thought Kuyt was offside on the line when the ball came across. When Suarez beat Van Der Sar, There was nobody else behind him.

Either that, or he just wanted to cuss somebody and figure he could rough up the linesman.

Ah now see de replay again and in my mind it confirm your latter.  You could see that kuyt run onto that ball from behind the plane of the ball.  It doh matter hummuch men was behind him after dat. He had no argument..I just find that football coming to a poiint now that when a goal score, (or don't score, as paul scholes demonstrated) players will automatically raise their arms in protest.  It becoming instinctive and creating a domino effect kinda ting.  berbatov head de ball onto the liverpool player belly, berba start to scream bloody murder and set off scholes (who had a clear, unobstructed, 7-yard view).  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 10:12:55 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 06, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
Small mag u iz kicks yes....

doh study it...tis is one fella fergie dont like losing too...but say wha...3-1 aint bad..coulda be 3-0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 10:36:48 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf)

page 31.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 06, 2011, 11:01:10 AM
Et tu Bakes:)

Nah on de real Nani slam he RIGHT hand on de ground. the ground NOT at the St John's Ambulance staff.

The St johns Ambulance staff really man pull back he head but not because Nani swiped at his head, because Nani hand on de upswing to slam his RIGHT hand to de ground come up close to the St. Johns Ambo man head.

meh DVR working for me today boy....and again even in real-time it didn't look to me like swipe at nobody it look like he slam he hand to ground in frustration when he realize how hurt he really was.

NOW if allyuh could go back and watch it on Tivo or DVR and see something different, well then something wrong with dese two big eye ah mine.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on March 06, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
Picture of Nani's leg

(http://img.mobypicture.com/21de0927afce7863fedde73237ae7d0d_view.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 11:08:52 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf)

page 31.
There is no reference in the laws to an exception for a back pass or ball played by opponent. Therefore Kuyt was offside. Q.E.D. See the law below:

Offside position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position

No offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick
to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 06, 2011, 11:13:46 AM
Two losses in a row, Nani out for a spell, Rio still on de sidelines, and potential losses against Arsenal and Chelsea still to come.....champions?  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 11:16:10 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf)

page 31.
There is no reference in the laws to an exception for a back pass or ball played by opponent. Therefore Kuyt was offside. Q.E.D. See the law below:

Offside position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position

No offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick
to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).
OK.... got it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 06, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
Picture of Nani's leg

(http://img.mobypicture.com/21de0927afce7863fedde73237ae7d0d_view.jpg)

Thanks kev, ah wonder if ah injury like dis will cause ah man to slam he hand into ground in frustration boy?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 06, 2011, 11:48:38 AM
Additionally, and ah could be jumping de gun here eh...but if it was ah Manu man make dat c$%thole tackle, well lord have mercy, we wouldna hear de end ah dat and it woulda be ref dis and de ref dat, but oh well, at least he get ah yellow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf)

page 31.
There is no reference in the laws to an exception for a back pass or ball played by opponent. Therefore Kuyt was offside. Q.E.D. See the law below:

Offside position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position

No offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick
to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).
OK.... got it.


I eh sure if dat mean yuh accepting that he wasn't offside...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2011, 11:52:28 AM
Additionally, and ah could be jumping de gun here eh...but if it was ah Manu man make dat c$%thole tackle, well lord have mercy, we wouldna hear de end ah dat and it woulda be ref dis and de ref dat, but oh well, at least he get ah yellow.

Ent.. you wouldnt hear the end of it

That was one nasty tackle
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
Additionally, and ah could be jumping de gun here eh...but if it was ah Manu man make dat c$%thole tackle, well lord have mercy, we wouldna hear de end ah dat and it woulda be ref dis and de ref dat, but oh well, at least he get ah yellow.

  but manu players HAVE made c**thole tackles like this and gotten away with it....I seem to recall Drogba gettin' a yellow card for takin' a drop-kick from johnny evans (or was it Drogba stampin' he chest on evans' studs?).  Two weeks in a row, ferdinand drop-kick two separate players and get off scott-free.  Any of those tackles coulda cause serious injury.  now, a man like me will take back my take on nanni's "overreacting" as I though.....but ah cyah feel sorry for manu as a whole and ah cyah take allyuh too seriously when, for YEARS, ya;; side have benefitted and celebrated many wins and trophies on bad refereeing and y'all comin' now and wanting to put up defiant fronts about what people would have to say......All this "karma" that is coming back to yall side, as plentiful as the fans (and fergie) may want to make it, is but a drop in the bucket for all the karma that manu has put out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on March 06, 2011, 12:12:11 PM
Was Kuyt offside for the second goal?


No... the pass came off Nani's head inadvertently... aka intercepted back pass.
I've always heard this, but never found it in the "laws" as explained.

  You could never be offside on a ball played by an opponent.
where in the laws do you get that? That was, but is it still so?


http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf)

page 31.
There is no reference in the laws to an exception for a back pass or ball played by opponent. Therefore Kuyt was offside. Q.E.D. See the law below:

Offside position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position

No offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick
to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).
OK.... got it.


I eh sure if dat mean yuh accepting that he wasn't offside...

I'm accepting that he wasn't offside. In the midst of the most recent changes to Law 11,the silence on the defences play has let it open to subjective calls. For example I've seen calls made against attacking teams where the ref would have called Kuyt offside.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 06, 2011, 12:15:50 PM
Fergie silent after Reds reverse

A bad day for Manchester United may get even worse after Sir Alex Ferguson failed to show for any of his post-match duties in the aftermath of Sunday`s 3-1 defeat at Liverpool.

Ferguson cancelled his pre-match briefing on Friday in protest at the coverage given to his post-match quotes at Chelsea on Tuesday that have landed him with an improper conduct charge, plus the furore that surrounded Wayne Rooney's elbowing of Wigan's James McCarthy last weekend.

In a pre-planned move, United also blanked the media on Sunday. Ferguson did not speak to host broadcaster Sky Sports, either before or after his side's third Premier League defeat of the season.

His assistant Mike Phelan did not carry out his usual post-match engagements with the BBC, arranged due to Ferguson's long-standing feud with the organisation. Radio rights holders talkSPORT were also left without any comment from the visitors.

Should any of these organisations complain to the Premier League, the governing body will be forced to act, escalating the problem between Ferguson and the BBC, with the fines for his non-compliance still waiting to be made public.

For the first time, even United's own television channel, MUTV, left a senior game without any reaction, which is an embarrassing situation in itself.

Whatever the hell you are smoking Fergs QUIT  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 12:20:02 PM
I hear yuh doc.....it kinda didn't help that nanni seemed to have head the ball in a totally different direction than its original path.....he seemed to have head it backward and that could not have helped.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 06, 2011, 12:21:07 PM
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team
, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position


Doc... see the relevant highlighted sentence above.



Additionally, and ah could be jumping de gun here eh...but if it was ah Manu man make dat c$%thole tackle, well lord have mercy, we wouldna hear de end ah dat and it woulda be ref dis and de ref dat, but oh well, at least he get ah yellow.

Come nah man Fyzo... need I bring up the shenanigans from the FA Cup match?  Need I talk, yet again, about Rafael's imprudent attempt to clearly inflict maximum pain, if not injury on Lucas??  Unless your argument is that Carragher attempted to intentionally hurt Nani and got away with it then the ref took everything into consideration and gave him the benefit of the doubt... just as he did with Rafael... rather generously since the latter tackle was no accident.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 06, 2011, 12:29:40 PM
That pic make meh sick.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 06, 2011, 12:32:13 PM
fergie not speaking to the media actually does better service to football than when he does and it actually helps more than hurts his..legacy. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 06, 2011, 12:35:59 PM
Chelsea beat Man Utd and you can hardly find it on soccernet.com. Liverpool beat Man Utd and it all over the front page.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on March 06, 2011, 12:37:38 PM
Its a pointless debate who gets most from refs, by anybodies standard on first view (live) that was a red card, same with rapheal (and btw maxi, just before he launched himself), but these teams get away with it week in week out.  Does anybody believe if that was a Wigan, Stoke, Sunderland player with that tackle he would of stayed on the pitch, no way.

Just watched Wolves v Spurs, Hutton should of been sent off, he didn't get sent off, a good goal disallowed, its not a coincidence.

Ferguson hasn't come out and said something, Daglish copped out, but I will guarantee he won't cop out if it happens to one of his players.

The nett result is that you will see refs send off players next week for challenges that are no where near as bad or dangerous and the status quo will carry on.  Its time this nonsense was stopped not just for the few protected sides but for the whole league.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 06, 2011, 12:40:38 PM
Quote
louis12580 (3/6/2011 at 12:31 PM) Report Violation One of the first things, at any level, we are taught is- Win with class, lose with dignity. Sadly that escapes way too many in sport these days. The media in Great Britain is much more different than the one here. Whether print/audio/visual, it's not the same. They are much more acerbic, cynical and mean spirited especially the tabloids. The F.A. should come down and come down hard on this type of behavior. S.A.F. still hasn't served his 2 match touchline ban from last season and now awaits the results of his latest outburst. Just a question to end this. Are S.A.F. and Phil Jackson facebook friends?

from soccernet.com  comments section.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 06, 2011, 12:45:52 PM
Where was Gibson? I blame him for this lorse ;D Seriously that was a nasty tackle. Surely we will have to change our set up to accomodate Hernandez. He is a player on fire at the moment.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 06, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Can the reds keep it together for the next 9 games or will they start throwing their toys out their prams?

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2011, 02:11:01 PM
Can the reds keep it together for the next 9 games or will they start throwing their toys out their prams?


stay tuned!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 06, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
Additionally, and ah could be jumping de gun here eh...but if it was ah Manu man make dat c$%thole tackle, well lord have mercy, we wouldna hear de end ah dat and it woulda be ref dis and de ref dat, but oh well, at least he get ah yellow.


Do f*ckin study dem! Dey will always find a reason to justify dey rose coloured commentary. I am sure men on this forum believe Nani deserved that just because he plays for United! I wouldn't talk to the media neither and stop Ferdinand and others from twettin or giving interviews. Batter down the hatches and focus on playing football. Extra laps for everybody tomorrow! I hope Fergie tear dem a new bammsi!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 06, 2011, 02:53:46 PM
Where was Gibson? I blame him for this lorse ;D Seriously that was a nasty tackle. Surely we will have to change our set up to accomodate Hernandez. He is a player on fire at the moment.

I blame Gibson and Evans too. If they were better Wes Brown and Carrick would be pickin up splinters in dey arse. Rooney to the bench; time we start ridin Berba again. I think part of the problem has been tryin tuh get Rooney goin at the expense of Berbatov! Berbatov is and has been a better player than Rooney. I am so tired of seeing him miss trap, shift to his right every time he get the ball, pass a ball to the opponent, dribble a ball of his shin, dribble into damn 3 or 4 men. He has just been very careless with the ball. If his arse was in any type of form this race would be over! It just burns me that he had the f*ckin nerve to question the direction of the team, damn a raise and get it and he has been one of the worse offenders this season! Yes he set up goals but his overall play has been atrocious! He has also shown zero leadership when on the field! Sell his arse to Newcastle or back to Everton!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 06, 2011, 02:56:34 PM
Can the reds keep it together for the next 9 games or will they start throwing their toys out their prams?



5 home games.. considering our home form and the importance of the games should we have a nearly fit team we can definitely get 15 points at home

4 away games , West Ham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Blackburn... we will need at least 7-9 points on the road

The massive 9 begins but it is one game at a time... Will go down to the wire

I wouldnt be surprised if Chelsea finish second and Arsenal f**k it up like they usually do... drawing at home to Sunderland and losing at home to Spurs, West Brom and Newcastle? hallmark of champions?

The pressure will tell.. Arsenal will fold and either United (who I think will win it) or Chelsea will knick it

I'd actually put money on that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2011, 03:36:32 PM
(http://www.elfanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/253.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 06, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
Nah alyuh unfair, Nani did not try to hit anyone, he hit the ground. He cried like a lil girl doh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 06, 2011, 07:57:24 PM
Nah alyuh unfair, Nani did not try to hit anyone, he hit the ground. He cried like a lil girl doh.
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Elan you funny yes!  ;D I am sure he was in shock seeing a gappin hole in his shin. I would say he was cryin like a little boy, like somebody took his lunch. I hope he is okay tho.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 06, 2011, 08:14:58 PM
Question. these players does where proper shin guard these days? this pretty boy look with some small shin guard that must be covering half yuh shin. NOT me and that, craziness
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 06, 2011, 09:36:58 PM
Question. these players does where proper shin guard these days? this pretty boy look with some small shin guard that must be covering half yuh shin. NOT me and that, craziness

It might be the shin-guard that cut him.... as a result of that ridiculous tackle.

I waiting for somebody to say how these man u players get injured easily. My thinking is that, especially in the EPL, yuh more likely to find a skill player get kick down from one of the many journeymen out there.
Long time that didn't happen as much b/c the skill men was also rough. Rooney for instance, is a throwback.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 06, 2011, 10:45:58 PM
It might be the shin-guard that cut him.... as a result of that ridiculous tackle.

My guess is that Carra caught him just above the shin guard and his cleat slid down Nani's leg slicing it open... so while the injury occurred belove the level of the shin guard, the initial point of contact was higher.  Nani will be fine after being stitched up, but I dunno if he returning this season.  Nani need take lessons from Valencia, bawling like dat fuh ah li'l cut foot.

At the time I said Carra could have been sent off... not sure that Phil Dowd was aware of the extent of the injury at the time and in hindsight he should have been sent off.  But initially I thought the yellow was fortunate but justifiable.

Classy move by Meireles, comforting his countryman.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on March 07, 2011, 12:55:47 AM
It might be the shin-guard that cut him.... as a result of that ridiculous tackle.

My guess is that Carra caught him just above the shin guard and his cleat slid down Nani's leg slicing it open... so while the injury occurred belove the level of the shin guard, the initial point of contact was higher.  Nani will be fine after being stitched up, but I dunno if he returning this season.  Nani need take lessons from Valencia, bawling like dat fuh ah li'l cut foot.

At the time I said Carra could have been sent off... not sure that Phil Dowd was aware of the extent of the injury at the time and in hindsight he should have been sent off.  But initially I thought the yellow was fortunate but justifiable.

Classy move by Meireles, comforting his countryman.

Nani made sure Dowd seen the injury before he got his card out, if anything else that makes Dowd's decision even worse, if he had a doubt in his mind which card to give, seeing the position and extent of the injury should of only resulted in one card.  What makes it worse is that he was in a great position and seen exactly where Carragher hit him and how he went into the tackle.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 07, 2011, 01:21:44 AM
It might be the shin-guard that cut him.... as a result of that ridiculous tackle.

My guess is that Carra caught him just above the shin guard and his cleat slid down Nani's leg slicing it open... so while the injury occurred belove the level of the shin guard, the initial point of contact was higher.  Nani will be fine after being stitched up, but I dunno if he returning this season.  Nani need take lessons from Valencia, bawling like dat fuh ah li'l cut foot.

At the time I said Carra could have been sent off... not sure that Phil Dowd was aware of the extent of the injury at the time and in hindsight he should have been sent off.  But initially I thought the yellow was fortunate but justifiable.

Classy move by Meireles, comforting his countryman.

Nani made sure Dowd seen the injury before he got his card out, if anything else that makes Dowd's decision even worse, if he had a doubt in his mind which card to give, seeing the position and extent of the injury should of only resulted in one card.  What makes it worse is that he was in a great position and seen exactly where Carragher hit him and how he went into the tackle.

So the extent of an injury is directly related to the punishment meted out by the ref  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 07, 2011, 07:32:28 AM
(http://www.elfanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/253.jpg)

damn didnt see this! what shit, two things to say, that should not be tollerated in football

secondly, isnt nani one of those players who wears shin pads that are slightly bigger than a pallet stick?

saying this to be clear, i am not saying he deserved to be hurt

however you have to take responsibiliy for your own safety first and if that means wearing more substansial and taller shin guards so be it.

yes all may argue how big yuh want tuh guard, next ting we go be wearing cricket pads and all the suedo comical talk that goes on for conversation on here.

fellas style or not, look after yourselves wear pads that cover as much of the shin as possible, i hate to see fellas over 6ft wlaking with what look slike thier son or nephew shin guardsas if by a miracle every tackle they face will connect with a tiny 4 inch area.

sorry to see another footballer injuryed like that on the pitch

firstly the player who did that is at fault

and maybe once bitten nani might step up his personal protection
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2011, 07:40:16 AM
nanni is a pretty boy, he eh go change he shin pads.  Still cyah understand how the ref didn't see that tackle for what it was, though....steven gerrard is a nex' one.  One of the nastiest tacklers (and biggest fakers on his day) in the league and he beratin' nanni, tellin' 'im to get up! Ah could only laugh at them men and they hypocrisy....must me a liverpool thing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 07, 2011, 07:44:47 AM
Can the reds keep it together for the next 9 games or will they start throwing their toys out their prams?



5 home games.. considering our home form and the importance of the games should we have a nearly fit team we can definitely get 15 points at home
yuh forget chelsea coming tuh eff yuh up at home

4 away games , West Ham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Blackburn... we will need at least 7-9 points on the road
lol i love it you dont even sonsider loising to Arsenal

The massive 9 begins but it is one game at a time... Will go down to the wire
yup down to wire, suspensions, injuries, injury time, linesman, reff etc

I wouldnt be surprised if Chelsea finish second and Arsenal f**k it up like they usually do... drawing at home to Sunderland and losing at home to Spurs, West Brom and Newcastle? hallmark of champions?
west brom and newcastle were f**k ups, but the sunderland we all know why, our chances weren't taken and a few were taken away from us, the spurs well shit happens right i mean didnt wolves beat you lot? lol

The pressure will tell.. Arsenal will fold and either United (who I think will win it) or Chelsea will knick it
Chelsea have too much work to do and for them to win it you lot have to had it to arsenal and chelsea

I'd actually put money on that.
put yuh allowance away kiddo, save yuh money for some sweeties tuh make yuh feel better in summer
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on March 07, 2011, 08:33:21 AM
It might be the shin-guard that cut him.... as a result of that ridiculous tackle.

My guess is that Carra caught him just above the shin guard and his cleat slid down Nani's leg slicing it open... so while the injury occurred belove the level of the shin guard, the initial point of contact was higher.  Nani will be fine after being stitched up, but I dunno if he returning this season.  Nani need take lessons from Valencia, bawling like dat fuh ah li'l cut foot.

At the time I said Carra could have been sent off... not sure that Phil Dowd was aware of the extent of the injury at the time and in hindsight he should have been sent off.  But initially I thought the yellow was fortunate but justifiable.

Classy move by Meireles, comforting his countryman.

Nani made sure Dowd seen the injury before he got his card out, if anything else that makes Dowd's decision even worse, if he had a doubt in his mind which card to give, seeing the position and extent of the injury should of only resulted in one card.  What makes it worse is that he was in a great position and seen exactly where Carragher hit him and how he went into the tackle.

So the extent of an injury is directly related to the punishment meted out by the ref  ???

I didn't really say that, a player can get his leg broken in a tackle, but not necessarily a foul.

If Dowd was in any doubt where Carragher caught Nani (and I can't see how he could be given how close he was and no players in his line of sight) then the position of the injury should of removed any doubt how high that tackle was.  If the ball was about 2.5 times bigger Carragher may of just caught the top of it.  The top and bottom of it is Carragher did him, its really that simple.  It was also Nani's standing leg, just luck that it wasn't broken, I am not a lover of manu by any stretch but it beggars belief he stayed on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 07, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
Can the reds keep it together for the next 9 games or will they start throwing their toys out their prams?



5 home games.. considering our home form and the importance of the games should we have a nearly fit team we can definitely get 15 points at home
yuh forget chelsea coming tuh eff yuh up at home

4 away games , West Ham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Blackburn... we will need at least 7-9 points on the road
lol i love it you dont even sonsider loising to Arsenal

Don't be so hasty fella, 7-9 points in four games?  Obviously he's considering at least 1 loss somewhere in there lol

The massive 9 begins but it is one game at a time... Will go down to the wire
yup down to wire, suspensions, injuries, injury time, linesman, reff etc

I wouldnt be surprised if Chelsea finish second and Arsenal f**k it up like they usually do... drawing at home to Sunderland and losing at home to Spurs, West Brom and Newcastle? hallmark of champions?
west brom and newcastle were f**k ups, but the sunderland we all know why, our chances weren't taken and a few were taken away from us, the spurs well shit happens right i mean didnt wolves beat you lot? lol

Doh make excuses fella lol

The pressure will tell.. Arsenal will fold and either United (who I think will win it) or Chelsea will knick it
Chelsea have too much work to do and for them to win it you lot have to had it to arsenal and chelsea

I'd actually put money on that.
put yuh allowance away kiddo, save yuh money for some sweeties tuh make yuh feel better in summer

lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 07, 2011, 09:36:05 AM
Nani made sure Dowd seen the injury before he got his card out, if anything else that makes Dowd's decision even worse, if he had a doubt in his mind which card to give, seeing the position and extent of the injury should of only resulted in one card.  What makes it worse is that he was in a great position and seen exactly where Carragher hit him and how he went into the tackle.

Dude... take a look at the vid again, Dowd hadn't the slightest interest in what Nani was showing him.  Evra was already halfway up his ass with his complaints... Van Der Sar was anxious to get in on the action, and Gerrard was there to make sure Liverpool was represented among the lobbyists.  Gerrard got between the two and pushed Nani away and Nani keeled over like he was shot in the ankles.  Dowd backed away and was surveying the performance from a distance.... don't go on as though he stood there and examined the wound then callously patted Carra on the back.

I didn't really say that, a player can get his leg broken in a tackle, but not necessarily a foul.

If Dowd was in any doubt where Carragher caught Nani (and I can't see how he could be given how close he was and no players in his line of sight) then the position of the injury should of removed any doubt how high that tackle was.  If the ball was about 2.5 times bigger Carragher may of just caught the top of it.  The top and bottom of it is Carragher did him, its really that simple.  It was also Nani's standing leg, just luck that it wasn't broken, I am not a lover of manu by any stretch but it beggars belief he stayed on the pitch.

This is just further proof that people can look at the same incident and come away with radically different perceptions.  I don't think anyone, let alone Dowd, was mistaken as to where Carragher hit Nani... in fact for those critical of Nani and his shin guards, again, the tackle was above even where the average shin guard would be.  What made Carragher's tackle seem less serious than it turned out to be was the fact that there wasn't a whole lot of force to it, relative to the break foot tackles we see at times.  What made the injury as bad as it is (in my eyes) isn't the force applied, but apparently the fact that as the boot slid down Nani's shin the cleat dug into the flesh and gashed it open.  Most men would come out of that 9 times out of 10 with a bruise, rather than a broken leg.  Nani was just unfortunate to get cut.  All this to say not that Carra shouldn't have been sent off, but rather that Dowd's interpretation was understandable to me... but we can debate that all day.

I won't sit here and say I'm a huge fan, I'm largely indifferent to Nani, but I root for him more than I root for any other player on that team because I think Fergie and some fans are too critical of him... so this has nothing to do with whether I like ManU or not, as a fan you never want to see players get hurt, let alone hurt to the point that they are out for extensive periods.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 07, 2011, 09:57:46 AM
Nani made sure Dowd seen the injury before he got his card out, if anything else that makes Dowd's decision even worse, if he had a doubt in his mind which card to give, seeing the position and extent of the injury should of only resulted in one card.  What makes it worse is that he was in a great position and seen exactly where Carragher hit him and how he went into the tackle.

Dude... take a look at the vid again, Dowd hadn't the slightest interest in what Nani was showing him.  Evra was already halfway up his ass with his complaints... Van Der Sar was anxious to get in on the action, and Gerrard was there to make sure Liverpool was represented among the lobbyists.  Gerrard got between the two and pushed Nani away and Nani keeled over like he was shot in the ankles.  Dowd backed away and was surveying the performance from a distance.... don't go on as though he stood there and examined the wound then callously patted Carra on the back.

I didn't really say that, a player can get his leg broken in a tackle, but not necessarily a foul.

If Dowd was in any doubt where Carragher caught Nani (and I can't see how he could be given how close he was and no players in his line of sight) then the position of the injury should of removed any doubt how high that tackle was.  If the ball was about 2.5 times bigger Carragher may of just caught the top of it.  The top and bottom of it is Carragher did him, its really that simple.  It was also Nani's standing leg, just luck that it wasn't broken, I am not a lover of manu by any stretch but it beggars belief he stayed on the pitch.

This is just further proof that people can look at the same incident and come away with radically different perceptions.  I don't think anyone, let alone Dowd, was mistaken as to where Carragher hit Nani... in fact for those critical of Nani and his shin guards, again, the tackle was above even where the average shin guard would be.  What made Carragher's tackle seem less serious than it turned out to be was the fact that there wasn't a whole lot of force to it, relative to the break foot tackles we see at times.  What made the injury as bad as it is (in my eyes) isn't the force applied, but apparently the fact that as the boot slid down Nani's shin the cleat dug into the flesh and gashed it open.  Most men would come out of that 9 times out of 10 with a bruise, rather than a broken leg.  Nani was just unfortunate to get cut.  All this to say not that Carra shouldn't have been sent off, but rather that Dowd's interpretation was understandable to me... but we can debate that all day.

I won't sit here and say I'm a huge fan, I'm largely indifferent to Nani, but I root for him more than I root for any other player on that team because I think Fergie and some fans are too critical of him... so this has nothing to do with whether I like ManU or not, as a fan you never want to see players get hurt, let alone hurt to the point that they are out for extensive periods.

Well said Bakes.

What about the ratliation tackle from rafael? Should he had been sent off. The intent and he left the ground with studs ups? What's the thought on that one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 07, 2011, 10:09:48 AM

Well said Bakes.

What about the ratliation tackle from rafael? Should he had been sent off. The intent and he left the ground with studs ups? What's the thought on that one.

There was no doubt in my mind that that should have been an automatic red... the malicious intent was clear.  The only thing save Raphael is the fact that Lucas saw it coming far enough in advance to avoid injury and that Dowd probably wanted to be "fair" in light of the leniency shown to Carragher. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2011, 11:45:14 AM


damn didnt see this! what shit, two things to say, that should not be tollerated in football

secondly, isnt nani one of those players who wears shin pads that are slightly bigger than a pallet stick?

saying this to be clear, i am not saying he deserved to be hurt

however you have to take responsibiliy for your own safety first and if that means wearing more substansial and taller shin guards so be it.

yes all may argue how big yuh want tuh guard, next ting we go be wearing cricket pads and all the suedo comical talk that goes on for conversation on here.

fellas style or not, look after yourselves wear pads that cover as much of the shin as possible, i hate to see fellas over 6ft wlaking with what look slike thier son or nephew shin guardsas if by a miracle every tackle they face will connect with a tiny 4 inch area.

sorry to see another footballer injuryed like that on the pitch

firstly the player who did that is at fault

and maybe once bitten nani might step up his personal protection

ENT! NANI does wear dem small shin pad, like Half he shin does be covered, i learn my lesson with dem thing. Only full length guards after and not them weak pallet stick either.

this is proper shin guards.

(http://www.gearwest.com/images/W/Adidas-adiPure-Shin-615794-CHR.jpg)

edit: I cant see how a injury like that could happen unless yuh not wearing proper protection , its a known fact NANI wears small guards and sock tape.
If yuh wear small chin gaurd and only tape holding it up, what yuh think go happen? the man boot must run down yuh shin obviously
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
could of break the man leg too

(http://www.epltalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/carragher-foul.jpg)

FUNNY all over the net people asking where was Nani's shin guard lol, same thing we asking ,

Alyuh see how tiny this f**ker shin guard is. But saying that the tackle was not called for , nasty nasty tackle.

(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/109809866.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892140FEB0FF7845C57DF78D69E08DC8262F9959EB93AE452BD6312E32BC16501C17)


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 07, 2011, 01:27:03 PM
ah boy like we ha to get some stats on 'pretty-boy' footballers who does wear tiny shinguards:)

and wid rafael tackle...added to de fact dat he is already ah yellow-card/red-card waiting to happen, don't forget Maxi did just show him some love with some cleats to he thigh area:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 07, 2011, 01:32:30 PM
The shin guard startin high and endin low. I watchin that space that exposed between the boot and the bottom of the shin guard, even a soft lash there is painful!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 07, 2011, 07:32:30 PM
bigger guards offer more protection but less "mobility"

however tackels like cara have no place in the game

NONE

hit nani guard spot on and it wil protect but a lil to the left or right and is scars to remember if yuh lucky or worse end of days

it sucks because fast skill full technical players like the thin light guards


defenders n mids prefer tougher stuff


just curious i bet rooney wears some substansial guards
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2011, 08:55:09 PM
just curious i bet rooney wears some substansial guards

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/109808215.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892140FEB0FF7845C57D658B4CF0F65FA1939959EB93AE452BD6CC5257FCBB9062DE)

(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/109808008.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892140FEB0FF7845C57D834128DEA545D8039959EB93AE452BD65AB3AE68351E9EE8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 08, 2011, 08:35:34 AM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 08, 2011, 09:15:49 AM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2011, 10:01:29 AM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



Incredible...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 10:34:36 AM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 08, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



an allyuh say i complain about the refs too much  :beermug:

which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 08, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



an allyuh say i complain about the refs too much  :beermug:

which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.

Players will always get hurt inspite of the rules, refs and tackles.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



an allyuh say i complain about the refs too much  :beermug:

which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.

Players will always get hurt inspite of the rules, refs and tackles.

 That goes without saying.  Players will always handle the ball in the area, too.  But I bet if the punishment for it were something more lenient than a penalty, we would see more men handling the ball.  Likewise, if these kinds of Jet-Li tackles were more severely punished, we would see even less of them than we already do.  The real purpose of rules is not as much to prevent them as it is to minimize them.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 08, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



an allyuh say i complain about the refs too much  :beermug:

which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.

Players will always get hurt inspite of the rules, refs and tackles.

 That goes without saying.  Players will always handle the ball in the area, too.  But I bet if the punishment for it were something more lenient than a penalty, we would see more men handling the ball.  Likewise, if these kinds of Jet-Li tackles were more severely punished, we would see even less of them than we already do.  The real purpose of rules is not as much to prevent them as it is to minimize them.

I don't think that punishment is the first thing in a player's head when in a defensive position or when the attacking team is threatening to score. Player will make those hard tackles or handle the ball if he thinks it will give his team a chance to stay in the game. Luis Suarez is a perfect example of this.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 08, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
Allyuh serious with this shin pads talk?

A proper blade will mash up any soldier regardless of the shin pads...



an allyuh say i complain about the refs too much  :beermug:

which is why them tackles have to be dealt with everytime and players should protect themselves as much as possible

  In truth, the best long term protection against them kinds of tackles are the refs, the rules and the disciplinary committee.

Players will always get hurt inspite of the rules, refs and tackles.

 That goes without saying.  Players will always handle the ball in the area, too.  But I bet if the punishment for it were something more lenient than a penalty, we would see more men handling the ball.  Likewise, if these kinds of Jet-Li tackles were more severely punished, we would see even less of them than we already do.  The real purpose of rules is not as much to prevent them as it is to minimize them.

I don't think that punishment is the first thing in a player's head when in a defensive position or when the attacking team is threatening to score. Player will make those hard tackles or handle the ball if he thinks it will give his team a chance to stay in the game. Luis Suarez is a perfect example of this.

 Punishment is always at some point, in the minds of players Jed.  While players as a whole are always going to break rules, they will inherently structure their play to what the rules confine them to do.  You don't think that if intentional hand ball were only punished with, let's say an indirect free-kick from the penalty spot (alowing teams to put a wall on the goal line)instead of a penalty AND expulsion, that more players wouldn't do what he did?   How often do you see GK's handling a back pass, even an unintentional one?  I guarantee you no as often as 10 years ago. (or however long it was before the rule came into effect.)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on March 08, 2011, 06:17:47 PM
what is a pretty boy ??...and while yuh at it ...whats an ugly boy ??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 08, 2011, 06:19:42 PM
what is a pretty boy ??...and while yuh at it ...whats an ugly boy ??

I was about to suggest a mirror, but then I look in one and see myself...  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on March 08, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
ok Bitter... lol..( good one)...still waiting on the pretty boy answer
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 09, 2011, 08:25:26 AM
ok Bitter... lol..( good one)...still waiting on the pretty boy answer

i say its sarcasm, like when you call a fat man "tiny"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 11, 2011, 07:57:54 AM
interesting game tomorrow

fergie will want to win it and have his side fired up
the results can make or break either teams season

manu lose tomorrow and it has no effect on the premire league
or it does affect them and they slip behind further

or they win and it gives them the boost to maintain top spot in prem and arsenal continue thier slip and the finish line

i hope manu pithounds like fletcher and rooney dont stick us with some carragher like tackles and injur more arsneal squad players
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 11, 2011, 08:24:47 AM
interesting game tomorrow

fergie will want to win it and have his side fired up
the results can make or break either teams season

manu lose tomorrow and it has no effect on the premire league
or it does affect them and they slip behind further

or they win and it gives them the boost to maintain top spot in prem and arsenal continue thier slip and the finish line

i hope manu pithounds like fletcher and rooney dont stick us with some carragher like tackles and injur more arsneal squad players

Fergie sounded bullish in his press conf. .. said we will play our best team and Marseille not in his mind till after the Arsenal game.  Obviously wants a reaction after 2 losses

Park, Valencia, Nani, Rio all out.

I going with:

VDS

Rafa
Vidic
Smalling
Evra

Fletcher
Carrick
Scholes

Rooney
Hernandez
Giggs

B: Lindergaard, O'Shea, Brown, Gibson,, Obertan, Bebe, Berbatov
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 11, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
will be interesting which arsenal side turns up tomo (i mean the mental part not the actual players)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 12, 2011, 01:16:40 PM
Arsenal looked in shambles hmmm. Valencia is a game changer looked great. 1 less trophy for wenger boys
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 12, 2011, 01:22:10 PM
I must admit when I saw our starting XI today I was worried and confused and the Arsenal team out there was the best available for them

Who would have thought that Gibson and O'Shea in deep lying mid positions with Rooney playing attacking mid with the twins on the wings and Chicho up top would beat Arsenal hahaha... what it gave was alot of quick play and intensity as the twins are over excited but they were both tops today and Rooney was fantastic with Hernandez throwing his body around and running his socks off and it was his 2 efforts of desire that allowed us to score twice

GREAT STUFF... Van Der Sar is a f**kign genius btw.. my god.. Man of the match
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on March 12, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
Yes Van Der Sar was man of the match, stellar performance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 12, 2011, 02:40:06 PM
Give me a side of youthful and energetic players who give great effort on the field any day. Something positive bount tuh happen. Love those Brazilian twins! Rooney actually appeared to have more energy today than I have seen for the season. I say keep him in midfield and play Berba and Hernandez up front.  Arsene9 has done a poor job of teaching his players how to be defesensively responsible and play team defense. Barca may play great ball but they also play great team defense.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 12, 2011, 02:49:26 PM
Whooping like a Black Pastor in an Inner City Church on First of the month, "Gllllooooorrrrrraaaayyyy"! Gloooooooraaaay!"  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 12, 2011, 03:19:18 PM
RaFabio DaSilva!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 12, 2011, 04:26:21 PM
If I ever meet Paul Scholes I am going to shake his hand then kick his ginger nuts up his f**king ass

Arsenal were shit today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 12, 2011, 05:00:11 PM
Sir Alex Ferguson hails Edwin Van der Sar role in FA Cup win

Manchester United boss heaps praise on veteran goalkeeper as his side beat Arsenal to reach semi-finals

Sir Alex Ferguson admits goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar played a pivotal role in helping his Manchester United side overcome Arsenal to reach the FA Cup semi-finals.

Fábio da Silva put the home side ahead after 28 minutes when he pounced on a loose ball after Manuel Almunia could only parry Javier Hernández’s effort and Wayne Rooney struck early in the second half with a well-executed header to book United’s place at Wembley.

Man-of-the-match Van der Sar produced some vital saves to keep the Londoners at bay throughout the sixth-round tie at Old Trafford, and Ferguson hailed his display after the match.

“Edwin was fantastic,” said Ferguson. “He made a mistake last week [at Liverpool] and dropped a goal but he’s more than repaid us in full today.

“It’s not just his ability as a goalkeeper, it’s his calmness he brings to everyone – that’s a vital ingredient he has.”

Arsène Wenger’s side were unable to find a way past the Dutchman despite dominating possession for long spells, with captain Robin van Persie and substitute Marouane Chamakh both guilty of spurning glorious opportunities for the Gunners.

And Ferguson, who was looking for a response from his side after consecutive league defeats, believes the speed of United’s breaks troubled the Arsenal rearguard and ultimately proved the decisive factor in a closely-contested encounter.

“It was a massive game for both clubs in a fixture that is always going to be intense,” he continued.
“In fairness Arsenal played their part in the game but I thought in the second half in particular we played well. It was always going to be a tough tie so we are very pleased.

“They did have a few good chances and Edwin van der Sar has made some spectacular saves, but we missed a few very good opportunities ourselves so at the end of the day there wasn’t too much in it.
“Arsenal probably had more of the chances if I’m being fair, but we were always a threat, especially after the break.”

Meanwhile, a bad afternoon was made worse for Arsenal boss Wenger when Johan Djourou was ruled out for the rest of the season after dislocating his shoulder late on in Saturday’s clash.

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2011/03/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united-arsenal-edwin-van-der-sar/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 12, 2011, 08:38:08 PM
If I ever meet Paul Scholes I am going to shake his hand then kick his ginger nuts up his f**king ass

Arsenal were shit today

Nasri is that you?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 12, 2011, 09:42:52 PM
Scholes got his 10th yellow card of the season.. automatic 2 match ban (Bolton @ OT and West Ham away)  god his tackling is horrible lol... I hope this doesnt come back to haunt us

but what a f**king cameo today.. his passing was outrageously good.. look at this gem : http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy207/CLK_FPC/A9xo.gif
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on March 12, 2011, 10:45:39 PM
Inspired team selection by Sir Alex!!
De man have Rooney looking like Xavi in de midfield:)
Ah does cringe everytime Scholes going and make ah tackle....everytime!!!!
But-as ah passer-man mehself-he does make meh go "waaayyyyy' with most ah he passes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 12, 2011, 10:56:23 PM
Inspired team selection by Sir Alex!!
De man have Rooney looking like Xavi in de midfield:)
Ah does cringe everytime Scholes going and make ah tackle....everytime!!!!
But-as ah passer-man mehself-he does make meh go "waaayyyyy' with most ah he passes.

Ah find Scholes comin off like he cah handle the fact that his career windin down and he cannot perform as he once did. Fergie has made comments that Scholes still wants to play a lot of the games and is having a hard time, with Fergie's attempts to manage/limit how much and when he plays due to his age. I think whether or not he can accept a limited role will factor in him comin back next season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 13, 2011, 02:54:09 PM
Check out the talent we have comin tru! I hope Morrison get his head right so he can get ot the next level as a person and footballer. That fella is a natural!  Man ah miss watchin youth football in Trinidad!



 http://bit.ly/h4Mpf7


The FA Youth Cup sponsored by E.ON
VIDEO: Morrison double sends United through
Sunday, 13 March, 2011

Ravel Morrison helps Red Devils come from two down at Anfield.

Liverpool 2-3 Manchester United
The FA Youth Cup sponsored by E.ON
Sixth Round Proper
12noon, Sunday 13 March 2011
Anfield, Liverpool FC
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Ravel Morrison netted a brace as Manchester United produced a stunning comeback to book their place in The FA Youth Cup sponsored by E.ON Semi-Final.

Liverpool had raced into a two-goal lead and must have through they had secured their place in the last four place against Chelsea.

But United showed all their qualities in the second half and a penalty from Larnel Cole and two from Morrison put Paul McGuinness’ side into the last four. The game was marred by controversy both sides ended the game with nine men

Adam Morgan scored both goals either side of half-time to give the home side a strong advantage.

Morgan netted his first on 33 minutes when he fired a powerful shot into the corner of the net. The Liverpool striker grabbed his second of the game on 53 minutes when he met a cross from Brad Smith and slotted the ball home from close-range.

The game completely turned around when United were awarded a penalty on 59 minutes after Ryan Tunnicliffe was brought down inside the area. Stephen Sama was shown a straight red card over the challenge.

Paul Pogba converted the penalty, but he was also shown a yellow card for his delayed, shimmy run-up. Referee David Coote ordered the spot kick to be taken again and Pogba's objections earned him a second booking within seconds of his first, which saw him follow Sama down the tunnel.

When the kick was finally taken Cole made no mistake with the second attempt to put United back into the game.

Cole then turned provider when his low cross picked out Morrison who blasted the ball home and brought United back on level terms on 62 minutes.

Just when it looked as if the game would be heading for extra-time, Morrison made it a comeback to remember when he scored the crucial winner on 86 minutes and it was a stunning strike from the United youngster.

Cole’s corner was header away dropping nicely for Morrison who adjusted his body and fired an unstoppable volley into the bottom corner.

There was still time for Tyler Blackett and Liverpool captain Conor Coady to be shown the red card as both sides ended the game with nine men.

United were left to celebrate a memorable victory at the final whistle and will now look forward to a two-legged Semi-Final against Chelsea.

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 13, 2011, 03:07:12 PM
That game was as exciting as any game I've seen this season... The passion and the quality on show from the kids of both teams were tops and of course coming back from 2-0 to win 3-2 at Anfield is always a delight.. the Crowd was quite decent too and the chants and having a go at each other sparked the emotions on the field and them yutes getting stuck in..  4 red cards hoss.. Cody from pool tussle with our Left back and his nose get buss open in the resulting tussle and push fest with everyone

Ravel is a boss.. real great technique and 2 well taken goals.. Tunnicliffe was a power house in CM.. combative and always 1st to the ball.. very Keano like.  Cole(7) on the RW was pacey and tricks but good end product too.. Liverpool have some tricky kids too especially Stirling.. he real good. Him and Morrison were the 2 big players without a doubt

2-0 an you f**ked it up! 2-0 and you f**ked it up!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2011, 05:01:27 PM
Hargreaves and Nani back in training. I would love for Hargro to be able to play again and rediscover his form. You should see the big arse shin pads Nani wearing; dey look like xxxl maxi pads!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
Hargreaves and Nani back in training. I would love for Hargro to be able to play again and rediscover his form. You should see the big arse shin pads Nani wearing; dey look like xxxl maxi pads!

hahahaha it good! , Finally good sense prevail , he should have been wearing that to begin with , who doh listen does feel  :devil:

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
Hargreaves and Nani back in training. I would love for Hargro to be able to play again and rediscover his form. You should see the big arse shin pads Nani wearing; dey look like xxxl maxi pads!

hahahaha it good! , Finally good sense prevail , he should have been wearing that to begin with , who doh listen does feel  :devil:

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You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 14, 2011, 07:28:06 PM
Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads.

what year was that  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 14, 2011, 07:42:21 PM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 14, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 15, 2011, 10:36:06 AM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.

Who never use to wear shin guards in 1990? Can you explain?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.

Yuh have to be a real old-timer to consider 20 years to be "a few years ago"!
That being said, Carragher and Rafael tackled like a cavemen. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.

Who never use to wear shin guards in 1990? Can you explain?

If you are asking me to post a pic, don't have one but according to FIFa.com it became mandatory in 1990 for all players to wear shin guards. You had players playing without them, socks roll down!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 11:57:05 AM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.

Yuh have to be a real old-timer to consider 20 years to be "a few years ago"!
That being said, Carragher and Rafael tackled like a cavemen. 

Is early 40s old timerish?  ;D I was just understatin! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
You don't think you being hard on the fella? Just a few years ago dey were not even wearing shin pads. he didn't ask for Carragher to f* ck his shin up like that. The only thing he might have a hard time livin down is the bawlin on the field! I feel a little embarrased for him on that one.

You talkin about 20 years ago.

Yes 1990 to be exact. My point is there was a time when players never wore shin guards. And the focus shouldn't be on the equipment but on the tackle. Men gettin fibulas broken and they wearing bigger and sturdier shin guards than Nani wore.

Who never use to wear shin guards in 1990? Can you explain?
  A LOT of players used to play without shin guards....first of the prominent names that come to mind are Maradonna and Platini.  I think I have seen Gullit play without them, too. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
mexican poison!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 15, 2011, 02:11:53 PM
OM is rel shyte.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
Valencia = brilliant
Hernandez = excellent ball awareness

edit: amazing how Valencia changes the game immediately
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2011, 03:22:31 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 15, 2011, 03:26:49 PM
Stay calm just a lil pressure nutten much.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 15, 2011, 03:27:04 PM
Valencia = brilliant
Hernandez = excellent ball awareness

edit: amazing how Valencia changes the game immediately

Valencia's pass to Giggs made all the difference on that goal... but yeah, great awareness by Hernandez... yet again.



All that said, Diawarra and Taino for Marseille are putting on some performance at RB and LB respectively.  Not much support from midfield has left them exposed at times... but dem fellas auditioning well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2011, 03:37:36 PM
danger averted.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 15, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
danger averted.

 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 03:44:22 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 06:45:10 PM
Valencia = brilliant
Hernandez = excellent ball awareness

edit: amazing how Valencia changes the game immediately

Valencia's pass to Giggs made all the difference on that goal... but yeah, great awareness by Hernandez... yet again.



All that said, Diawarra and Taino for Marseille are putting on some performance at RB and LB respectively.  Not much support from midfield has left them exposed at times... but dem fellas auditioning well.


You are late.  TaiWo (with a "w") has been a boss player for that team for a good few years now and is beyond "auditioning" at this point, he is a valuable player on this side, hence being the vice-captain and being one of the younger players on the team.  Diawarra is a new addition to this team but is one of Senegal's best players.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 06:45:52 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!

They already groomin Wilshere!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 06:58:59 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!

They already groomin Wilshere!

allyuh lucky dem French and dem so dam sorf....a side like Bayers was waxin' allyuh ass today. (again)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!

They already groomin Wilshere!

allyuh lucky dem French and dem so dam sorf....a side like Bayers was waxin' allyuh ass today. (again)

If we was lucky, what you say about Chelski and who dey playin?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 07:07:56 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!

They already groomin Wilshere!

allyuh lucky dem French and dem so dam sorf....a side like Bayers was waxin' allyuh ass today. (again)

If we was lucky, what you say about Chelski and who dey playin?

Well, I guess I can say allyuh lucky to not be playin' Chelsea, either.  Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
"Rafael confirmed afterwards that he could be missing for a month and Ferguson was asked, in apparent seriousness, whether Gary Neville could be brought back from retirement. "Gary Neville?" he spluttered. "He's retired! Shall we see if Paul Parker is fit too?"

I am sure Arsene9 would have said yes, considering he bringing back Jens!


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 07:18:19 PM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

 they cyah help they self.  rooney is england's hope!

They already groomin Wilshere!

allyuh lucky dem French and dem so dam sorf....a side like Bayers was waxin' allyuh ass today. (again)

If we was lucky, what you say about Chelski and who dey playin?

Well, I guess I can say allyuh lucky to not be playin' Chelsea, either.  Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.

 :nailbiting: :whew: ::whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.

i could say the same for chelsea also  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 15, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.

i could say the same for chelsea also  :devil:

Well ent allyuh is "big" side?  We go take allyuh on anytime.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2011, 07:37:48 PM
Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.

i could say the same for chelsea also  :devil:

Well ent allyuh is "big" side?  We go take allyuh on anytime.

Ah know it dos make allyuh season!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2011, 09:50:54 AM
Allyuh eh want nutting wit no BIG side right now.

i could say the same for chelsea also  :devil:

Well ent allyuh is "big" side?  We go take allyuh on anytime.

Ah know it dos make allyuh season!

Any time allyuh get knocked out the CL it does make my season....I done buyin' drinks fuh de party arready.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 16, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

Went to the game yesterday... Rooney was good, but coming the end his passes were going astray. Good game though. Valencia  :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2011, 10:43:34 AM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

Went to the game yesterday... Rooney was good, but coming the end his passes were going astray. Good game though. Valencia  :notworthy:


Nicotine withdrawal! Happy he is back; now to see he and Nani on the field at the same time will be nice!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

Went to the game yesterday... Rooney was good, but coming the end his passes were going astray. Good game though. Valencia  :notworthy:


 Have to agree....Valencia brings something to the manu game that's been foreign to them until recently....nice, smooth, skilfull, ball-handlin' football, or "pretty football" as vidic had put it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2011, 10:57:18 AM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

Went to the game yesterday... Rooney was good, but coming the end his passes were going astray. Good game though. Valencia  :notworthy:


 Have to agree....Valencia brings something to the manu game that's been foreign to them until recently....nice, smooth, skilfull, ball-handlin' football, or "pretty football" as vidic had put it.

Also I think he calmer on the ball than Nani and doesn't force the action as much. Better decision maker than my boy Nani!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2011, 11:02:00 AM
when rooney turn beckham  ???

He hit some nice balls and played some nice ball today,but Lord dem English announcer dos talk like his every touch is gold. And don't give other players who  make similar plays as much credit! Nice win; next!

Went to the game yesterday... Rooney was good, but coming the end his passes were going astray. Good game though. Valencia  :notworthy:


 Have to agree....Valencia brings something to the manu game that's been foreign to them until recently....nice, smooth, skilfull, ball-handlin' football, or "pretty football" as vidic had put it.

Also I think he calmer on the ball than Nani and doesn't force the action as much. Better decision maker than my boy Nani!
Yeah, dize why ah used de word "smooth" to describe him.  He looks so comfortable with the ball it's scary. ...but dem Brits go run 'im outta town like they did with so many others because he doh really seem like a player who want to "get a foot in" the way they like.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Valencia = brilliant
Hernandez = excellent ball awareness

edit: amazing how Valencia changes the game immediately

Valencia's pass to Giggs made all the difference on that goal... but yeah, great awareness by Hernandez... yet again.



All that said, Diawarra and Taino for Marseille are putting on some performance at RB and LB respectively.  Not much support from midfield has left them exposed at times... but dem fellas auditioning well.


You are late.  TaiWo (with a "w") has been a boss player for that team for a good few years now and is beyond "auditioning" at this point, he is a valuable player on this side, hence being the vice-captain and being one of the younger players on the team.  Diawarra is a new addition to this team but is one of Senegal's best players.

School in session? 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 17, 2011, 06:44:19 AM
i have to say it brought a smile on my face to see fergie finally gets the touchline ban he deserves

even though we all know the reffs suck especially certain ones

but i doubt this will affect your side, 9 more for you 10more for us

one game at a time

see you in may
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
i have to say it brought a smile on my face to see fergie finally gets the touchline ban he deserves

even though we all know the reffs suck especially certain ones

but i doubt this will affect your side, 9 more for you 10more for us

one game at a time

see you in may

5 matches are ridiculous... 

Wenger and others say the same shit too yet they get nothing...  but its ok the FA and Refs favour United  ::)

They will try to give Arsenal the title and Arsenal will still f**k it up.. I'm expecting a Brom victory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 07:59:49 AM
Thank God for these upcoming internationals... our squad is depleted!

Fergies Presser'


11:30 The boss was also asked about the possibility of been drawn with Barcelona in tomorrow's Champions League draw. He's a huge admirer of the Spanish champions, but says it's important not to fear them. "I don't think it's good tactics to go into how good they are and show a trepidation and apprehension about it. I don't think it's our way. You have to face the hurdle as it comes along. We've got the experience of playing against them recently - we knocked them out in the semi-final [in 2008] and lost the final in Rome [in 2009]. And it's virtually all the same players. It's an amazing thing that they very rarely change their team. That's a fantastic feat when you think of the number of games you play nowadays." (GT)

10:00 Sir Alex says Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic are both unavailable for the weekend clash with Bolton. Vidic should be back after the international break. Jonny Evans could come back in "but it's a risk as he's been out so long". John O'Shea is out for five weeks, while Rafael will be missing for two or three weeks, both with hamstring injuries. On Rio, Sir Alex adds worryingly: "We may be lucky to get him back for part of this season." More updates from the presser... (GT)

- Injuries to defenders: "We're having a bad spell. Only a few weeks ago we had every defender fit. We've got the bonus of Wes Brown being able to play centre-back and right-back, and Chris Smalling has been brilliant.

- On midfielders and other team news: Fletcher is still suffering from a virus. Anderson is doing well running wise and getting close to a return.
 Owen Hargreaves trained all week which is good news. ;D ;D Park has been training and may be on the bench on Saturday. Michael Owen is available.


- On Bolton: "They always give you a hard game and they've done extremely well this season. They're challenging for a European place and in the semi-finals of the FA Cup and they'll come here with a great degree of confidence. They always have that goal threat with Elmander and Davies and we'll need to cope with that. It's a big one for us on Saturday."

- On FA charge: "It's disappointing. This is the only industry where you can't tell the truth. But it's in the past. I've not made up my mind about appealing."

- On Robbo: "We found out the news yesterday and I've been in touch with Bryan. He's positive which is important. He's a fantastic man and we're all supportive of him. He's always been a fighter and I'm sure he'll be okay."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 08:07:31 AM
expect:

VDS

Fabio
Brown
Smalling
Evra

Valencia
Carrick
Gibbo/Giggs
Nani

Rooney
Berba/Chicho

for Bolton on Saturday... tough game but we have to peg them back and attack and score 1 early and hopefully the 2nd before the half
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 17, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
i have to say it brought a smile on my face to see fergie finally gets the touchline ban he deserves

even though we all know the reffs suck especially certain ones

but i doubt this will affect your side, 9 more for you 10more for us

one game at a time

see you in may

5 matches are ridiculous... 

Wenger and others say the same shit too yet they get nothing...  but its ok the FA and Refs favour United  ::)

They will try to give Arsenal the title and Arsenal will still f**k it up.. I'm expecting a Brom victory

oh gorm!

sour grapes!

your not singing anymore!

we are united we do what we want or something like? come nah help me out how the chant goes?

lol fergie looked for it, he had two games hanging over his head he too long in this game to not realise he wont be made an example of, lol so take the 5 in context that he had two over him and collected another 3 lol

sour grapes yute sour grapes

btw wenger doesn't say the same shit, he says what he feels about it and certainly does not imply the deliberately cheats, or set out to disadvantage one team vs another before the game even starts, thats just nonsense from the scot

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 17, 2011, 09:11:02 AM
i have to say it brought a smile on my face to see fergie finally gets the touchline ban he deserves

even though we all know the reffs suck especially certain ones

but i doubt this will affect your side, 9 more for you 10more for us

one game at a time

see you in may

5 matches are ridiculous... 

Wenger and others say the same shit too yet they get nothing...  but its ok the FA and Refs favour United  ::)

They will try to give Arsenal the title and Arsenal will still f**k it up.. I'm expecting a Brom victory
Ridiculous? Heh heh. Dis fool need to learn what "suspended ban" means. Get de f**k outta here!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 09:17:08 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 17, 2011, 09:22:06 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 09:27:50 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.

You misread it.. I gave up on the Fergie argument.. Fergie and all give up on it..  you need to understand trini humour a little more..I reckon your somewhere hiding in America without a green card and cant remember how we joke on forums

you and gunnerstunner get your head tief so easy is not even funny anymore

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 17, 2011, 09:34:19 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.

You misread it.. I gave up on the Fergie argument.. Fergie and all give up on it..  you need to understand trini humour a little more..I reckon your somewhere hiding in America without a green card and cant remember how we joke on forums

you and gunnerstunner get your head tief so easy is not even funny anymore



 :beermug: your not singing, your not singing, your not singing, your not singing anymore!  :beermug:

lol who tiefing who head? shoes on the other foot, bitter pill to swallow, have some of your own medicine, empty vessels, shall i go on? or you get the picture?

don't feel you can brag n beat chest like the typical zealous manu fan and not expect some mauvais lange to be directed at you when yuh side slips up

if you showed a lil more respect to your opponents you might get some respect in return

dont forget rooney still get away from a ban himself and there is no defending what he did

enjoy yuh game vs bolton i will hopefully enjoy mine against west brom :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 09:36:21 AM
I'll be singing hard when we win at Arsenal with Phelan on the bench and Fergie laughing in the stands

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 17, 2011, 09:38:58 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.

You misread it.. I gave up on the Fergie argument.. Fergie and all give up on it..  you need to understand trini humour a little more..I reckon your somewhere hiding in America without a green card and cant remember how we joke on forums

you and gunnerstunner get your head tief so easy is not even funny anymore


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dat's it! I don't understand Trini humour. Not "I was wrong" or "You talking crap" but "I was joking and yuh didn't ketch it". Dat is your comeback??? Breds forget FIFA President, you iz de next Prime Minister!!!! Iz licks for Kamla next 5 years!!!!
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on March 17, 2011, 09:39:40 AM
I'll be singing hard when we win at Arsenal with Phelan on the bench and Fergie laughing in the stands



lots more football to play even before that game, may not even make a difference by then who knows?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 17, 2011, 09:43:02 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.

You misread it.. I gave up on the Fergie argument.. Fergie and all give up on it..  you need to understand trini humour a little more..I reckon your somewhere hiding in America without a green card and cant remember how we joke on forums

you and gunnerstunner get your head tief so easy is not even funny anymore


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dat's it! I don't understand Trini humour. Not "I was wrong" or "You talking crap" but "I was joking and yuh didn't ketch it". Dat is your comeback??? Breds forget FIFA President, you iz de next Prime Minister!!!! Iz licks for Kamla next 5 years!!!!
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I go take dat and all.. now run along .. go and obsess over United like the rest of Arsenal,Chelsea,City,Pool fans do
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on March 17, 2011, 09:45:31 AM
haha I think allyuh need to get the f**k outta here and go back to empty cabinet Arsenal Forever


Hehehehe. The best thing to do when you can't answer an argument yes! Change the subject and try and insult the opponent. You starting to sound like a politician boy. Best yuh go and run for FIFA president and let the rest of us deal with de real world.

You misread it.. I gave up on the Fergie argument.. Fergie and all give up on it..  you need to understand trini humour a little more..I reckon your somewhere hiding in America without a green card and cant remember how we joke on forums

you and gunnerstunner get your head tief so easy is not even funny anymore


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Dat's it! I don't understand Trini humour. Not "I was wrong" or "You talking crap" but "I was joking and yuh didn't ketch it". Dat is your comeback??? Breds forget FIFA President, you iz de next Prime Minister!!!! Iz licks for Kamla next 5 years!!!!
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I go take dat and all.. now run along .. go and obsess over United like the rest of Arsenal,Chelsea,City,Pool fans do
Yes Kamla. I will obsess my backside off. I promise!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 19, 2011, 10:54:39 AM
Glory Glory !  ;D never give up  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 19, 2011, 10:55:28 AM
Pill for BW....Good game.. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 19, 2011, 11:07:51 AM
f**king Phew!

we were so shit today.. thank god we have that desire to win and never say die attitude

BERBA!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 19, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Nice win, yuh cold just see the drive and push tuh get a goal! Men step it up big time! Carrick and Evans still sh!te! Valencia seem to have returned better than when he left or than last season. He is showing more variety to his game; still one footed doh!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)


Bolton Wanderers midfielder Stuart Holden has been ruled out for six months as a result of the injury he sustained in a challenge on Saturday.


Holden was rushed to hospital following a 1-0 defeat to Manchester United as a tackle from Jonny Evans, which drew a red card, left him with a nasty gash on his right knee.

He was given 26 stitches to close the wound and X-rays confirmed Holden had avoided a break, but he also underwent an MRI scan to discover if he had suffered any ligament or muscular damage to his knee.

Bolton have now said the midfielder, who had a prolonged spell on the sidelines last season following a tackle from Manchester City's Nigel de Jong, will be out for six months, meaning he misses United States' Gold Cup campaign in June.

Holden will undergo surgery in London on Monday and manager Owen Coyle told the club's official website: "First and foremost our main concern is for Stuart and his recovery. He will get all the time and support that he needs.

"Stuart has been outstanding for me this season and he has shown in his performances that he is one of the best midfielders in the Barclays Premier League. He has such desire, strength of character and a winning mentality, and he will draw on all those attributes in his rehabilitation."

Holden wrote on his Twitter account: "I can promise you all I will come back stronger and better than before. Have had bad luck in the past and will continue to beat it."

He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".

Prior to the news of Holden's lengthy absence, defender Gary Cahill absolved United defender Evans of any blame for the tackle which resulted in his dismissal at Old Trafford.

"It would be a massive blow but it looked like a really bad gash, and I hope that's all it is, for the team's sake," Cahill told the Bolton News. "Maybe the international break might have come at the right time for him, in a recovery sense. Touch wood he isn't out.

"From where I was stood, he had his studs up, but no-one goes into a challenge looking to hurt someone, or at least you'd hope not.

"Nobody goes into a tackle thinking 'I'm going to do him here' and I think Evans just went for the ball and had his studs up a little bit. It was unfortunate in all circumstances, and Stu has come off worse."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2011, 11:20:33 AM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)




He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".



Why you didnt highlight this part yuh stupid c**t

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 21, 2011, 11:54:02 AM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)




He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".



Why you didnt highlight this part yuh stupid c**t


Good one Small Mag, they does only see what they want to see!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2011, 12:00:07 PM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)




He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".



Why you didnt highlight this part yuh stupid c**t


Good one Small Mag, they does only see what they want to see!!

true
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Tackling and break foot is part of the game... this is not modern interpretive dance dem fellas doing out there.... get over it and all yuh self... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 21, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
I hate to see a player get injured or see a malicious tackle but that incident involved 2 professionals going after a loose ball and one came off worse.. there was no intent to break his leg or harm Holden. they both went after the ball.. what I cannot take is a c**t like Elan using it as a reference to United and saying that Evans intentionally did it.. all parties involved agreed it was an unfortunate coming together..

I understand why the red would give him a red.. even though he won the ball but his studs did catch him and upon seeing the cut and realising he did get caught it was a red..  unfortunate but that's the rules. Too bad he wasnt the ref when Carragher caught Nani
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2011, 12:49:31 PM
I hate to see a player get injured or see a malicious tackle but that incident involved 2 professionals going after a loose ball and one came off worse.. there was no intent to break his leg or harm Holden. they both went after the ball.. what I cannot take is a c**t like Elan using it as a reference to United and saying that Evans intentionally did it.. all parties involved agreed it was an unfortunate coming together..

I understand why the red would give him a red.. even though he won the ball but his studs did catch him and upon seeing the cut and realising he did get caught it was a red..  unfortunate but that's the rules. Too bad he wasnt the ref when Carragher caught Nani

I not saying anyone do it intentionally yuh lil biatch. That is how they does tackle. There was no reason for Evans to go into that tackle muchless for the way he did. You feel everybody does celebrate other people downfall. That whole situation could have been avoided.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2011, 12:50:51 PM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)




He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".



Why you didnt highlight this part yuh stupid c**t


Good one Small Mag, they does only see what they want to see!!

What yuh want them to say, is only Man United team and fan boys does say the whole world against them when things happen to them or things eh go their way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2011, 02:35:34 PM
Last we checked is de haters of England's best club dat does be coming on we board and acting like biatches... :devil:    (is ah joke eh)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2011, 02:38:11 PM
Holden out for six monthsMarch 21, 2011
ESPNsoccernet staff (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/897094/bolton-star-stuart-holden-admits-fears-over-knee-injury?cc=5901)




He also refused to blame Evans for the incident, writing: "Just had sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me best in recovery, def wasn't intentional just unfortunate part of game".



Why you didnt highlight this part yuh stupid c**t



So wait... that's all it takes?  Yuh mean Carra only had to call and apologize to Nani to silence allyuh hypocrites last week?  I doh know who bawl and roll arung and carry on more, Nani on de pitch or allyuh on de forum.  Now ah reading man saying "break leg is part ah de game"... when a ManU player dishing it out I suppose, anybody else and is murder.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 21, 2011, 02:56:41 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

stupessss x 2....  arite Zeppo >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2011, 03:01:32 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

stupessss x 2....  arite Zeppo >:(

When TnT get a real team and jacular laying in de coffin ah go jump ship, but till now... de titanic has sunk.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

Doh study, you know I have no issue with you.  I just find some ah de post amusing... in their hypocrisy.  When Carra hit Nani and cut he shin was all kinda long talk and remonstration... and he didn't even go in with half the force Evans went in with.  Only reason Holden ent break he leg is because of where he get hit. If was some place with less muscle to cushion the impact he likely would have suffered a fracture.

If nutten else yuh consistent doh... ah remember yuh saying that same break foot talk when Eduardo get mash up, lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 21, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
We have some men who know real football here, some men who generally know a lot, some that are generally smart individuals, de middle men and men who does just bump dey gum, just hate it when ah good discussion goes south by unintelligent arguments... Ah lil banter here and there but sometimes eh...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2011, 03:59:51 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

I agree, them tackles is part of the game, like I argued in another thread players will always make them tackle whether rules are more stringent or not. What gets me is how "supporters" does try to evaluate conveniently.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 21, 2011, 05:50:43 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

I agree, them tackles is part of the game, like I argued in another thread players will always make them tackle whether rules are more stringent or not. What gets me is how "supporters" does try to evaluate conveniently.

If them tackles is "part of the game", then holden being out for 6 months is "part of the game" too.  Dize how long evans should get ban for and however long nigel de jong had put holden outta commission for, he shoulda get ban for that amount of time as well.  It seem like them kindsa tackles is more "part of the game" in England than any where else.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 21, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

I agree,those types of injuries them tackles are part of the game, like I argued in another thread players will always make them tackle whether rules are more stringent or not. What gets me is how "supporters" does try to evaluate conveniently.

If them tackles is "part of the game", then holden being out for 6 months is "part of the game" too.  Dize how long evans should get ban for and however long nigel de jong had put holden outta commission for, he shoulda get ban for that amount of time as well.  It seem like them kindsa tackles is more "part of the game" in England than any where else.

Sorry I should have chosen my words better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 22, 2011, 06:45:14 AM
Bakes wild man tackle is part of the game.. unwarranted but part of the game... what ah does cayr take is the lil boy arguments we does be building around these, "silly and un-sportsman like aspects of the game".... no scene but sometimes dese pages does go on and on without measure, and many times is pure tata. I angry that Evans hit Holden, he is part of our US team... :beermug:

I agree,those types of injuries them tackles are part of the game, like I argued in another thread players will always make them tackle whether rules are more stringent or not. What gets me is how "supporters" does try to evaluate conveniently.

If them tackles is "part of the game", then holden being out for 6 months is "part of the game" too.  Dize how long evans should get ban for and however long nigel de jong had put holden outta commission for, he shoulda get ban for that amount of time as well.  It seem like them kindsa tackles is more "part of the game" in England than any where else.

Sorry I should have chosen my words better.

Haha!! Jed, I eh tryin' to bite orf yuh head, but just as in "that other thread" yuh talkin' 'bout, you still don't quite seem to get the point.  Nobody is saying that more stringent rules will or can ever eliminate these kinds of tackles/injuries but they will do a great part to minimize them.  Every time you turn around in the EPL you seein' men going down to some vicious (oh, and "unintentional") tackles and you just not seeing the same frequency of events with the German, Spanish and Italian leagues combined
Something has to be wrong with that picture, but the fault lies with the FA.  Take manu, for example....If every time, over the years, players like rooney, cronaldo, rio and johnny evans were punished accordingly for their transgressions and they didn't act like they did 'fraid fergie so much, then even he woulda had to reign in his players' misconduct because it woulda been hurting the team. 
   joey barton ain't exactly criminalizing the game like he used to, but he still displaying blatant deviant behaviour and a man like he should be on a very short leash with the FA.  But between them (and the PFA, of course) they slap these fellas' wrists and pat them on they heads.  nigel de jong is a next one who needs to be reigned in before he seriously hurts somebody again.   It was all well and good for evans to call Holden to "apologise" and I give Holden REL credit for being so classy about it, but evans' apology means nothing to Bolton and the struggles they goin' through right now and it isn't fair to their team.   Of course, alex ferguson finds nothing wrong with the tackle, but let that had been one of his marquee players going down to a tackle like that with a similar injury and he woulda had the world to say about it. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 24, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
Let's hope we can get some gems out of this batch! Enough of the overrated and overprice English talent!

The buys from Brazil: The new recruits from Manchester United's South American talent factoryBy Ashley Gray
Last updated at 9:56 AM on 24th March 2011
Daily Mail UK
EXCLUSIVE
While eyes were fixed on the Old Trafford directors’ box last Saturday to see if Fabio Capello would finally get up close and personal with Rio Ferdinand over the England captaincy issue, many would have missed the five Brazilian boys sitting six rows behind the Italian.
Long after Capello’s discarded skipper ends his career at United, the club hope their tie-up with Sao Paulo academy Desportivo Brasil will provide them with a steady stream of talent.
The process is part of a painstaking two-and-a-half-year project by the Barclays Premier League leaders to develop their own talent in South America rather than splash out huge fees on the next generation of stars.
Confidentiality agreements prevent Desportivo Brasil from revealing which of their 100-plus teenagers have a pre-contract agreement with United, but Sportsmail has learned that the five players pictured at Old Trafford are called Gladstony, Aguilar, Lucas Evangelista, Agnaldo and Rafael Leao.


The five are now visiting Dutch champions Twente, who United plan to use as a holding club for the boys to gain European Union passports.
Midfielders Gladstony and Rafael Leao will be 18 later this year — the age at which they can legally sign for a club outside Brazil — but tight immigration laws in England mean they are unlikely to be granted work permits as, unlike United defenders Rafael or Fabio da Silva, they have not even represented their country at youth level.

This is where Twente come in. Holland will happily let the boys play there, where they can stay until they qualify for an EU passport or get enough international experience for a UK work permit.
Desportivo Brasil is owned by sprawling South American football company Traffic, whose president of international business Jochen Losch told Sportsmail: ‘Twente are a partner, helping United to resolve the problem of their EU passports. For two reasons it’s good that a player goes first to Holland. First, after two or three years he’s considered to be European. And of course it’s easier to play in the Dutch league than the Premier League.’

The players all live inside a multimillion-pound training centre in Porto Feliz, a 90-minute drive from bustling Sao Paulo where they enjoy better training facilities than at most major Brazilian clubs.
But Desportivo Brasil do not dream of winning the league title or the Copa Libertadores; their raison d’etre is to have the best youth teams in South America and sell on their talent.

The designated United players are given extra English lessons, sessions with a psychologist about being away from home and visits to the Carrington training complex they may one day call home.
If United go through with a signing, they pay a set fee, based on a player’s position rather than ability.

The Brazilian academy, set up by Traffic, then retain a hefty 50 per cent sell-on clause.
Losch said: ‘Manchester United look for young players in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. If they find a good one they come to us. We’ll get the player, register him with Desportivo Brasil, and we have a contract with United that they have an option to buy this player at 18 for a fixed amount.


If the guy turns out to be an Alexandre Pato (the striker who left Internacional for AC Milan for nearly £20million on his 18th birthday) United can still have him for a huge discount because of course we’ll honour the contract. If they don’t like the player, we keep him.’
The partnership was struck after United’s pursuit of the Da Silva twins. They were first spotted as 15-year-olds but could not be formally taken out of Brazil until their 18th birthday, meaning they risked being neglected in the Fluminense youth team and they never made a senior appearance in Brazil.


One of the brightest hopes on Desportivo Brasil’s books is striker Aguilar, who was 16 a fortnight ago but was called up by Brazil’s Under 17 squad for training in January.
Aguilar was signed by Belo Horizonte side Cruzeiro in 2009. However, because contracts are not valid before a player’s 16th birthday, Desportivo Brasil were able to take him to Porto Feliz a year ago, prompting an angry reaction from Cruzeiro president Zeze Perrella.

Aguilar’s former coach Joao Paulo Tardim said: ‘There is no doubt about his quality. Saying he will become a great player is an exercise in predicting the future, but the chances of it happening are very high.’
English scouts will no doubt be at the Emirates on Sunday to see Brazil, with exciting Santos striker Neymar and Sao Paulo playmaker Lucas, take on Scotland.
But the pair have recently signed contracts setting their value at £39m and £66m respectively.
If United’s project comes off, it will have been a long game worth playing.
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on March 24, 2011, 05:49:00 PM
I agree is a real dangerous tackle from Evans, but de same people who accusing man of being blind to anything against Man U, doing de same thing themselves. Why not compare Evans tackle to de tackle that Evra suffered in de 1st half? Same studs up, diving tackle. Only difference being Evra went into the confrontation and remained on his feet unlike Holden who also slid in, but Evans actually hit de ball while de Bolton player did not. De injury made it sensational, but there are many tackles like dat every weekend. One man get a straight red, de next man got a slight warning while Evra rolled around. When Chelsea get dey penalty a few weeks ago ah didn't hear allyuh complain bout Fergie influence.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 25, 2011, 02:45:01 PM
I agree is a real dangerous tackle from Evans, but de same people who accusing man of being blind to anything against Man U, doing de same thing themselves. Why not compare Evans tackle to de tackle that Evra suffered in de 1st half? Same studs up, diving tackle. Only difference being Evra went into the confrontation and remained on his feet unlike Holden who also slid in, but Evans actually hit de ball while de Bolton player did not. De injury made it sensational, but there are many tackles like dat every weekend. One man get a straight red, de next man got a slight warning while Evra rolled around. When Chelsea get dey penalty a few weeks ago ah didn't hear allyuh complain bout Fergie influence.

 ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 07:37:14 AM
Rooney finally earned his paycheck today! Great goals! Berbatov is class, needs to start next match! We snatched victory from the jaws of defeat! Glory, glory Man United! Happy Saturday to all the bitters out there, hope we spoiled all yuh day!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2011, 07:37:59 AM
LICKS!  :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
LICKS!  :whip:

Ent yuh was nervous? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 07:41:57 AM
Giggsy look great at left back! The Natural babie, the natural! Can't stand espn doing games; dey don't even replay the games!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2011, 07:42:36 AM
LICKS!  :whip:

Ent yuh was nervous? ;D

I end up watching cricket for a bit lol , i tell meh self i cah take this shit again lol, Then Rooney step up  ;D , i was at ease after that  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: che on April 02, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Well done ManU.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 02, 2011, 07:45:11 AM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
LICKS!  :whip:

Ent yuh was nervous? ;D

I end up watching cricket for a bit lol , i tell meh self i cah take this shit again lol, Then Rooney step up  ;D , i was at ease after that  :devil:

I think Fergie dos play Hernandez cause of superstition! Berba needs matches, I hope he keeps his head up and keep bussin the net!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 02, 2011, 07:51:03 AM
CHICHARITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is new baby face assassin
OLE you have a FANTASTIC successor
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 02, 2011, 07:56:56 AM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now




Happy Birthday Boss...  :beermug:

I was depressed... saying this is the first weekend I have off and have time to watch the game... ah get depressed for a bit but boom wazza and the mexican wonder...come through....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 02, 2011, 10:23:45 AM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2011, 10:33:21 AM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: dat was rel funny


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2011, 12:29:22 PM
arsenal draw  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 02, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
Giggsy look great at left back! The Natural babie, the natural! Can't stand espn doing games; dey don't even replay the games!

What I don't like is having to listen to that Scouse tw@t Macca...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 02, 2011, 01:01:37 PM
Looks like only Man U is up to it.  Arsenal are garbage.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on April 02, 2011, 01:56:15 PM
I agree is a real dangerous tackle from Evans, but de same people who accusing man of being blind to anything against Man U, doing de same thing themselves. Why not compare Evans tackle to de tackle that Evra suffered in de 1st half? Same studs up, diving tackle. Only difference being Evra went into the confrontation and remained on his feet unlike Holden who also slid in, but Evans actually hit de ball while de Bolton player did not. De injury made it sensational, but there are many tackles like dat every weekend. One man get a straight red, de next man got a slight warning while Evra rolled around. When Chelsea get dey penalty a few weeks ago ah didn't hear allyuh complain bout Fergie influence.

 ???


Typical QRC man. Never understand nothing, some times by choice, some times by lack of ability. Anyway, let me leave yuh to provide some more of your educated analysis of football. You probably do not even watch Man U's games, but come here to chat yuh brand of tootoo
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on April 02, 2011, 01:56:59 PM
Well done Man U!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 02, 2011, 03:25:18 PM
LOL... nah!!

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
arsenal draw  :devil:

Did Fiberglass not start because they were saving him for CL or the FA cup?  Or was Arsene9 afraid of burn out?:angel:  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 02, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
I agree is a real dangerous tackle from Evans, but de same people who accusing man of being blind to anything against Man U, doing de same thing themselves. Why not compare Evans tackle to de tackle that Evra suffered in de 1st half? Same studs up, diving tackle. Only difference being Evra went into the confrontation and remained on his feet unlike Holden who also slid in, but Evans actually hit de ball while de Bolton player did not. De injury made it sensational, but there are many tackles like dat every weekend. One man get a straight red, de next man got a slight warning while Evra rolled around. When Chelsea get dey penalty a few weeks ago ah didn't hear allyuh complain bout Fergie influence.

 ???


Typical QRC man. Never understand nothing, some times by choice, some times by lack of ability. Anyway, let me leave yuh to provide some more of your educated analysis of football. You probably do not even watch Man U's games, but come here to chat yuh brand of tootoo

Oh lawd, another one with misguided QRC envy.  Relax yuh self, Padnah, or read and weep because It's not QRC and it's not me, either.  It's YOU.  I am SURE your primary school teacher teach yuh to not use double negatives, too.  But anyhow, since yuh concerned about hummuch manu football ah does watch, first ting yuh go learn as yuh gain some maturity is that even the most ardent of football fans, have responsibilities.  Dize why I eh see no football today, dize why Ah does miss CL (tank God fuh replays) on a regular and dize why ah miss all dat shit yuh was talkin' 'bout wit evra and his little episode, so dat was of not interest to me.
My confusion was at your assertion that Chelsea "get" a penalty and how nobody talk 'bout fergie influence.  If yuh was talkin' about the penalty we got against manu then obviously you are too stoopid(sp) to understand what people are saying when they talk about (1) "manu getting more than their fare share of calls" and (2) that for all of fergie's alleged influence it really couldn't save vidic on that day, so blatant and clumsy were his challenges.  But any time yuh siddong and consume all my educational tootoo, yuh must pay attention and learn before yuh open yuh mouth.  Whenever I make comments on a game I missed, I always mention that I missed the game.  If yuh wasn't payin' so much attention to meh avatar or whatever dey does call it, yuh would see it yuh own schupid self and wouldn't have to speculate.  so come again, and Iah go have some more educational tootoo fuh yuh to enjoy.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2011, 12:42:24 PM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ckin FA have nothing better to do?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 04, 2011, 12:57:30 PM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ckin FA have nothing better to do?
Dey does take dat serious. Remember Drogba get a ban for cussing into the camera a few years ago when Barca knock dem outta Champs League semifinal in controversial circumstances? "It's a disgrace! It's a f*cking disgrace!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 04, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
If was Balotelli he would have needed to grow up and stop messing around, but since is Rooney, the FA have nothing better to do. SMDH
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 04, 2011, 02:39:31 PM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ckin FA have nothing better to do?

The FA loves United  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 04, 2011, 04:38:25 PM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now





Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ckin FA have nothing better to do?

I remember hearing the cuss live too. McManaman and the other commentator (not sure what his name is), ignored it and acted as if nothing happened. I guess they didn't know how to respond.

That said, Rooney has a history of acting first and thinking later and I'm surprised more opposing players don't take advantage of his short fuse (like Carvalho and Ronaldo and did in 2006).

I like him as a player, but that temper is going to get him in trouble. Remember Zinedine Zidane? Besides the unfortunate 2006 World Cup final, Zizou was susceptible to inexplicable violence against other players on the field. I remember him stamping on a Saudi Arabian player at the 1998 World Cup. France was already leading 4-0, so I couldn't understand the stamp then and I don't now.

Anyway, anecdote aside, Rooney better check himself.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2011, 04:40:41 PM
If was Balotelli he would have needed to grow up and stop messing around, but since is Rooney, the FA have nothing better to do. SMDH


Damn Elan; yuh always at the ready tuh pounce!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2011, 04:51:09 PM
Thank you Wazoo.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazoo, I love Chic ho, I love Barbs and everyone else..Gig gs at Left Back ha ha it worked perfectly..I love Forge

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ck in FA have nothing better to do?
Dewy does take DAT serious. Remember Drogue get a ban for cussing into the camera a few years ago when Bar ca knock Dem outta Champs League semifinal in controversial circumstances? "It's a disgrace! It's a f*King disgrace!"

I remember that. I still think Rooney is an idiot but I think the FA this is how they will get respect then they badly mistaken. They disrespect the game by putting out incompetent and inconsistent refs to call games! The hypocrisy of it all was the English media writing story after story about how Rooney's lack of passion and fire but were first to  crucify him for this verbal outburst! I don't think it was aimed at anybody and for me it seem that it was him exclaiming and being extra exuberant after scoring the goal that overcame a deficit. I would say it may have been like having an orgasm on the field!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
Thank you Wazza.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazza, I love Chicho, I love Berbs and everyone else..Giggs at Left Back haha it worked perfectly..I love Fergie

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ckin FA have nothing better to do?

The FA loves United  ::)


They love us so much that they smother us with extra love and attention; no wonder other teams feel neglected!  :-X

And cursing is worse than elbowing a player in the head!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on April 04, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
The only problem I have with this is that dem fellas does be cussing all de time. I think they should be banned for cussing the refs as opposed to cussing at a camera. But dem does be swearing at refs, opponents, teammates, fans, etc. and it's very common. I think they're acting this way because it was seen and heard live on ESPN and they could loose some sponsors because of this.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 04, 2011, 05:39:55 PM

I remember hearing the cuss live too. McManaman and the other commentator (not sure what his name is), ignored it and acted as if nothing happened. I guess they didn't know how to respond.

Nah they mentioned it... McManaman just kinda chuckled, and Martin Tyler stayed quiet for a beat then apologized

Quote
The host broadcaster, Sky Sports, also made on-air  apology (http://www.newstimes.com/sports/article/Wayne-Rooney-curses-into-TV-camera-could-face-ban-1321706.php#ixzz1IbHA0dlV) to its viewers.


Quote
Rooney, who scored a hat-trick in the game to help his side come from 2-0 down at half-time, shouted the expletive following his third goal and forced an on-air apology  (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/901809/man-united's-wayne-rooney-apologises-after-swearing-outburst?cc=5901) from the broadcaster, Sky Sports.

Pure comedy that these ManU fans are complaining about the FA's actions... cussing on the pitch is one thing, to foolishly cuss into a camera broadcasting live (as Drogba did a couple seasons ago) is just asking for punishment.  Frankly, I surprised that they did anything and on top of that, that the penalty so stiff... but hey, they have their global brand to protect and Sky and ESPN paying a lot of money to carry that live feed into people's homes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 04, 2011, 05:46:39 PM
Thank you Wazoo.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazoo, I love Chic ho, I love Barbs and everyone else..Gig gs at Left Back ha ha it worked perfectly..I love Forge

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ck in FA have nothing better to do?
Dewy does take DAT serious. Remember Drogue get a ban for cussing into the camera a few years ago when Bar ca knock Dem outta Champs League semifinal in controversial circumstances? "It's a disgrace! It's a f*King disgrace!"

I remember that. I still think Rooney is an idiot but I think the FA this is how they will get respect then they badly mistaken. They disrespect the game by putting out incompetent and inconsistent refs to call games! The hypocrisy of it all was the English media writing story after story about how Rooney's lack of passion and fire but were first to  crucify him for this verbal outburst! I don't think it was aimed at anybody and for me it seem that it was him exclaiming and being extra exuberant after scoring the goal that overcame a deficit. I would say it may have been like having an orgasm on the field!
As an Arsenal fan I glad because we need all the luck we can get right now but you right. They showing a big double standard. It is one of the harsh and stupid rules they have but then the PL is full of harsh and stupid rules. They can easily put a 5 second delay and cut out the cussing and solve the problem forever. Anyhow, they not going to back down because, strictly speaking, they have de man dead to rights and he shoulda know better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 04, 2011, 05:53:48 PM
Thank you Wazoo.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazoo, I love Chic ho, I love Barbs and everyone else..Gig gs at Left Back ha ha it worked perfectly..I love Forge

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ck in FA have nothing better to do?
Dewy does take DAT serious. Remember Drogue get a ban for cussing into the camera a few years ago when Bar ca knock Dem outta Champs League semifinal in controversial circumstances? "It's a disgrace! It's a f*King disgrace!"

I remember that. I still think Rooney is an idiot but I think the FA this is how they will get respect then they badly mistaken. They disrespect the game by putting out incompetent and inconsistent refs to call games! The hypocrisy of it all was the English media writing story after story about how Rooney's lack of passion and fire but were first to  crucify him for this verbal outburst! I don't think it was aimed at anybody and for me it seem that it was him exclaiming and being extra exuberant after scoring the goal that overcame a deficit. I would say it may have been like having an orgasm on the field!
As an Arsenal fan I glad because we need all the luck we can get right now but you right. They showing a big double standard. It is one of the harsh and stupid rules they have but then the PL is full of harsh and stupid rules. They can easily put a 5 second delay and cut out the cussing and solve the problem forever. Anyhow, they not going to back down because, strictly speaking, they have de man dead to rights and he shoulda know better.

Watch dem kiss his arse when he pulls on the England uniform. I also think Rooney spiteful enough tuh make dem grovel!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 04, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
cursing is overrated...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 04, 2011, 09:49:10 PM
Thank you Wazoo.. greatest Birthday present ... wow we really never give up..I love my team, I love Wazoo, I love Chic ho, I love Barbs and everyone else..Gig gs at Left Back ha ha it worked perfectly..I love Forge

I LOVE UNITEDDDDDDDD

HAHAHAA all those Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans must be f**king bitter right now



Smalls enjoy that birthday and ah know you appreciate the (at least my) quote of the day from Rooney (straight into the camera) "F*&KING WHAT!!!!"

So Rooney facing a 2 match ban for screaming that into the camera! The f*ck in FA have nothing better to do?
Dewy does take DAT serious. Remember Drogue get a ban for cussing into the camera a few years ago when Bar ca knock Dem outta Champs League semifinal in controversial circumstances? "It's a disgrace! It's a f*King disgrace!"

I remember that. I still think Rooney is an idiot but I think the FA this is how they will get respect then they badly mistaken. They disrespect the game by putting out incompetent and inconsistent refs to call games! The hypocrisy of it all was the English media writing story after story about how Rooney's lack of passion and fire but were first to  crucify him for this verbal outburst! I don't think it was aimed at anybody and for me it seem that it was him exclaiming and being extra exuberant after scoring the goal that overcame a deficit. I would say it may have been like having an orgasm on the field!
As an Arsenal fan I glad because we need all the luck we can get right now but you right. They showing a big double standard. It is one of the harsh and stupid rules they have but then the PL is full of harsh and stupid rules. They can easily put a 5 second delay and cut out the cussing and solve the problem forever. Anyhow, they not going to back down because, strictly speaking, they have de man dead to rights and he shoulda know better.

Watch dem kiss his arse when he pulls on the England uniform. I also think Rooney spiteful enough tuh make dem grovel!
True, well after de way he skin United for his pay increase we know de man ruthless!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on April 05, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
Really and truly, I am sure verbal assaults happens on the pitch all the time. I think that the FA is getting out of hand with this and I am not saying this because I am defending Rooney's actions. Quite frankly, the man was just on an emotional high after scoring a hat-trick that brought his team back from defeat and he got caught up in the moment. Possibly no different from any other player. As Giggsy 11 say, its probably because he did it towards the camera and on a game aired by ESPN.
IMHO, the FA should be focusing efforts on more pressing matters, like the inconsistencies in the refs and some of the poor judgments that they have made over the last while that have adversely affected teams, to the benefit of others.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 05, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
The only problem I have with this is that dem fellas does be cussing all de time. I think they should be banned for cussing the refs as opposed to cussing at a camera. But dem does be swearing at refs, opponents, teammates, fans, etc. and it's very common. I think they're acting this way because it was seen and heard live on ESPN and they could loose some sponsors because of this.

i agree
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 05, 2011, 11:59:54 AM
If was Balotelli he would have needed to grow up and stop messing around, but since is Rooney, the FA have nothing better to do. SMDH

YEAH YEAH!...
only picking on Mario cause he is an italian.

is cause dem utd fans are racists esp Giggsy !!!!!!!  i keeping my eye on she  - next thing she end up as head of the PSC.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 05, 2011, 01:02:28 PM
If was Balotelli he would have needed to grow up and stop messing around, but since is Rooney, the FA have nothing better to do. SMDH

YEAH YEAH!...
only picking on Mario cause he is an italian.

is cause dem utd fans are racists esp Giggsy !!!!!!!  i keeping my eye on she  - next thing she end up as head of the PSC.




Sammy, I now comin tuh post that about you!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 05, 2011, 09:57:01 PM
The only problem I have with this is that dem fellas does be cussing all de time. I think they should be banned for cussing the refs as opposed to cussing at a camera. But dem does be swearing at refs, opponents, teammates, fans, etc. and it's very common. I think they're acting this way because it was seen and heard live on ESPN and they could loose some sponsors because of this.

i agree
There's a theory that because of the growing power struggle between the FA and Premier League clubs, the FA has decided to play rough with the only weapon it has, player and manager discipline. That' according to this theory, is why they are so harsh and intolerant of player and manager discipline. If it's true, the clubs only have themselves to blame, since they don't really do much to help the FA and they aren't interested in the change necessary to better English football. When you have people by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 06, 2011, 03:07:48 AM
When yuh on de field gettin' a setta hard kick and shit-talk and man tellin' yuh all kinda ting, is one ting to cuss and tell man how dey mudda make dem and if the sideline microphones and/or cameras pick it up, oh well....but when you seek out the camera and look into it to scream out obsenities, I would think that is a little over the top and wothy of some kinda reprimand.  Besides, look hummuch time rooney good cuss up referee for all the world to see and never get punshed for it.  Maybe the FA just think it's time to start teaching or reminding him to act a little more professional.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Javier Hernandez  Park Ji-sung starting today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 06, 2011, 12:15:30 PM
Javier Hernandez  Park Ji-sung starting today

Any links? I am trap in work!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
Chelsea v Man Utd

Chelsea: Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole, Ramires, Essien, Lampard, Zhirkov, Drogba, Torres. Subs: Turnbull, Benayoun, Mikel, Malouda, Ferreira, Kalou, Anelka.

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Giggs, Park, Hernandez, Rooney. Subs: Kuszczak, Berbatov, Smalling, Nani, Scholes, Evans, Gibson.

Referee: Alberto Undiano Mallenco (Spain)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jumbie on April 06, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
good luck to man Utd. hope they get the cutass they deserve!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 06, 2011, 12:51:08 PM
I've always given the benefit of the doubt to Essien that he was just careless with his challenges... but now I'm starting to believe this dude just plain dirty.  Nearly mash up Rooney in the earlies with a late studs up challenge.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 06, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
I've always given the benefit of the doubt to Essien that he was just careless with his challenges... but now I'm starting to believe this dude just plain dirty.  Nearly mash up Rooney in the earlies with a late studs up challenge.

Essien can be a hack at times....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 06, 2011, 01:00:29 PM
I've always given the benefit of the doubt to Essien that he was just careless with his challenges... but now I'm starting to believe this dude just plain dirty.  Nearly mash up Rooney in the earlies with a late studs up challenge.

Essien can be a hack at times....

He's a player I always liked... but just as it's become harder for me to excuse Rooney's intemperance over the years, the more I watch Essien's challenges the harder it's become for me to explain them away.  There's a thread of reckless disregard about how he goes in on opposing players.  Think back to Rigoberto Song and some of the wild man challenges we saw from Cameroonian players in the early 90s... Essien may not be Cameroonian, but he'd fit in well with those 1990 and 1994 squads.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 06, 2011, 01:03:26 PM
He's a player I always liked... but just as it's become harder for me to excuse Rooney's intemperance over the years, the more I watch Essien's challenges the harder it's become for me to explain them away.  There's a thread of reckless disregard about how he goes in on opposing players.  Think back to Rigoberto Song and some of the wild man challenges we saw from Cameroonian players in the early 90s... Essien may not be Cameroonian, but he'd fit in well with those 1990 and 1994 squads.

Yeah he treads a fine line between being physical and being dangerous...To his credit, I think he stays on the right side of the line most of the time...Plus he so talented all around that it overshadows that element of his game..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
goal sah!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 06, 2011, 01:10:33 PM
Giggs is a gem.

Yes Yuri, kick dem in dey head!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 06, 2011, 01:23:03 PM
Yeah he treads a fine line between being physical and being dangerous...To his credit, I think he stays on the right side of the line most of the time...Plus he so talented all around that it overshadows that element of his game..

Yeah I agree wholeheartedly with that, most of the time he's close w/o crossing the line.

Agree with Peong too... sweet pass from Carrick, sweet trap-dribble-pass by Giggs to set up Rooney.  Was watching a ManU v. Liverpool re-play from 1992, end of season game yesterday, Liverpool had the game won until ("an 18-year old", per the commentator) Ryan Giggs set up Mark Hughes for the equalizer in the 90'.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 06, 2011, 02:09:24 PM
Counter Attacking every 5 minutes getting boring. Come out and play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 06, 2011, 02:34:13 PM
who needs cheese for their whine...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 02:36:41 PM
Counter Attacking every 5 minutes getting boring. Come out and play.

stueps


GLORY GLORY !
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 06, 2011, 02:37:18 PM
And that should have been a penalty for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 06, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
Evra was lucky the ref didn't give that penalty... 50-50 challenge fuh me, but Ramires won the ball before the tackle, by the book a penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sinned on April 06, 2011, 02:55:33 PM
Evra was lucky the ref didn't give that penalty... 50-50 challenge fuh me, but Ramires won the ball before the tackle, by the book a penalty.
Yep. Clear penalty if you ask me. Swipe right in front of Ramires without getting ball, impeding a shot.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 06, 2011, 06:56:04 PM
Well done by the whole side; Carrick's best game of the season. He positive and assertive! We own 4-4-2; Lampard is useless in that formation! Torres gettin play cause Roman was in the stands. It was good to see us remain aggressive after scoring because to many times when we have taken the lead against Chelski we have sat back and tried to defend the lead. Moving Valencia to right back and bringing on Nani showed that we wanted to continue to attack. Loved the move; same as with Giggsy on Saturday!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 06, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
Somebody need to give Rafael a sponsorship deal for stretchers because Lord ah tired see him gettin stretchered off it seems nearly every match!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
Somebody need to give Rafael a sponsorship deal for stretchers because Lord ah tired see him gettin stretchered off it seems nearly every match!

rel bad luck
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 06, 2011, 07:34:04 PM
By the way, has Nani started a game since he was quoted as saying that Fergie has forced him to be less creative?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
By the way, has Nani started a game since he was quoted as saying that Fergie has forced him to be less creative?

lol none that i remember
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 06, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 06, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 06, 2011, 07:46:52 PM
Two words - Ryan Giggs!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 06, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
Two words - Ryan Giggs!



Giggs will tear you apart... again
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 06, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
Two words - Ryan Giggs!



Giggs will tear you apart... again
Seriously? Joy Division?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 07, 2011, 01:52:41 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 07, 2011, 07:37:22 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 

squeeky bum time!

manu get the calls again lol

hope yuh put it on them in the league
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 07, 2011, 08:42:13 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 

squeeky bum time!

manu get the calls again lol

hope yuh put it on them in the league

ah how the lesser teams unite against us........maybe the FA should consider coming out with a EPL utd to consistently challenge us?  ???

it sooo unfair to u guys eh...... I really feel it for yuh :'(


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2011, 10:16:23 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 

squeeky bum time!

manu get the calls again lol

hope yuh put it on them in the league

ah how the lesser teams unite against us........maybe the FA should consider coming out with a EPL utd to consistently challenge us?  ???

it sooo unfair to u guys eh...... I really feel it for yuh :'(




F*ck the Bitters! They always have something to complain about when it comes to United!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: saint27 on April 07, 2011, 10:24:53 AM
Untited are the greatest club in the world ....everyone loves united in some way ..... either you are a fan or you love to hate united ... either way most men know as much about  united as much as thier own team ...let the haters hate
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on April 07, 2011, 10:31:40 AM
Seriously? Joy Division?

wha dansteel...yuh shock meh dey

just saw the movie on Ian Curtis...he was a city fan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 07, 2011, 10:46:54 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 

squeeky bum time!

manu get the calls again lol

hope yuh put it on them in the league

ah how the lesser teams unite against us........maybe the FA should consider coming out with a EPL utd to consistently challenge us?  ???

it sooo unfair to u guys eh...... I really feel it for yuh :'(




F*ck the Bitters! They always have something to complain about when it comes to United!
giggs you are a blinded moron

it serves in arsenals favor for chelsea to beat you lot in the EPL and we will take whatever help we can if that is bitterness i dont want to be sweet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on April 07, 2011, 10:48:01 AM
Goooooooooood tackle Evra! Kick dem in dey facking waist. Even though I woulda still call it a penalty, Ramires kinda use de upper body to bump Evra and ensure Evra couldn't reach de ball. I doh feel any kinda sympathy cause on de other end a few minutes before, ah swear Nani woulda score if stinkin Essien didn't cut cut across him and give him de lil nudge allowing de other Chelsea defender to catch up to pressure Nani. Essien and Ramires throwing all kinda wildman tackle without yellow. Yes, Rio shoulda gotten a yellow for his high foot, but look at how high de other man foot went first. Guess both went high and because Rio didn't pull he blade like de other, de foul was on Rio. Instead of complaining bout allyuh strikers inability to score, Bosigwa's angle of approach to Giggs, Lampards lack of mobility or allyuh coach decision making, de only thing de haters want to see is a desperate penalty to save face. Take allyuh buss ass.  :devil: :devil:

P.S. Mango Chow, yuh is still a bitter, tootoo spewing jackass
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 07, 2011, 10:55:55 AM
aaahahahahaha  :rotfl: oh gord
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 07, 2011, 10:57:49 AM
Karma....3 games before today 3 times they get calls to help them. What goes around comes around

Aaaaaaahhhh boy...funny how it's "karma" when the calls go your way but never that when they don't. 
 

squeeky bum time!

manu get the calls again lol

hope yuh put it on them in the league

ah how the lesser teams unite against us........maybe the FA should consider coming out with a EPL utd to consistently challenge us?  ???

it sooo unfair to u guys eh...... I really feel it for yuh :'(




F*ck the Bitters! They always have something to complain about when it comes to United!
giggs you are a blinded moron

it serves in arsenals favor for chelsea to beat you lot in the EPL and we will take whatever help we can if that is bitterness i dont want to be sweet

And Gunner you are a seeing moron! We take care of our business while you bottlers keep hoping for help! You are supporting the right side, you diaper wearing loser!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 07, 2011, 10:58:18 AM
Goooooooooood tackle Evra! Kick dem in dey facking waist. Even though I woulda still call it a penalty, Ramires kinda use de upper body to bump Evra and ensure Evra couldn't reach de ball. I doh feel any kinda sympathy cause on de other end a few minutes before, ah swear Nani woulda score if stinkin Essien didn't cut cut across him and give him de lil nudge allowing de other Chelsea defender to catch up to pressure Nani. Essien and Ramires throwing all kinda wildman tackle without yellow. Yes, Rio shoulda gotten a yellow for his high foot, but look at how high de other man foot went first. Guess both went high and because Rio didn't pull he blade like de other, de foul was on Rio. Instead of complaining bout allyuh strikers inability to score, Bosigwa's angle of approach to Giggs, Lampards lack of mobility or allyuh coach decision making, de only thing de haters want to see is a desperate penalty to save face. Take allyuh buss ass.  :devil: :devil:

P.S. Mango Chow, yuh is still a bitter, tootoo spewing jackass


Essien didn't foul Nani on that play you're talking about.

Evra's was a foul and and it shoulda been a penalty...what happened before or after doh matter.  Just say yuh were lucky and yuh get away with one...that's the game....

It's always easy to be dismissive or philosophical about a bad call when you're on the lucky end of it...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on April 07, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
I agree with yuh point about de penalty, but right or wrong I can see possible reasons that the referee can say he didn't call it. I'm messing with some of these idiots that just bash blindly all the time and don't acknowledge that these things go both ways. Big sides will always get more calls than small fries, but who is chelsea to complain about Man u getting calls. About the play with Essien and nani, ah have to disagree. Not sure how the referee should have addressed that situation because it was cheekily done and would have been difficult to assess essien's itent. In my mind I'm sure that dirty bastard knew his timing was off so he couldn't actually tackle and if he wasn't going for the ball, that contact was illegal. Whether it was enough to get the referee to blow his whistle I can't say, but it is an example of why I don't want Chelsea to win another game for the entire fecking season   :beermug:

Goooooooooood tackle Evra! Kick dem in dey facking waist. Even though I woulda still call it a penalty, Ramires kinda use de upper body to bump Evra and ensure Evra couldn't reach de ball. I doh feel any kinda sympathy cause on de other end a few minutes before, ah swear Nani woulda score if stinkin Essien didn't cut cut across him and give him de lil nudge allowing de other Chelsea defender to catch up to pressure Nani. Essien and Ramires throwing all kinda wildman tackle without yellow. Yes, Rio shoulda gotten a yellow for his high foot, but look at how high de other man foot went first. Guess both went high and because Rio didn't pull he blade like de other, de foul was on Rio. Instead of complaining bout allyuh strikers inability to score, Bosigwa's angle of approach to Giggs, Lampards lack of mobility or allyuh coach decision making, de only thing de haters want to see is a desperate penalty to save face. Take allyuh buss ass.  :devil: :devil:

P.S. Mango Chow, yuh is still a bitter, tootoo spewing jackass


Essien didn't foul Nani on that play you're talking about.

Evra's was a foul and and it shoulda been a penalty...what happened before or after doh matter.  Just say yuh were lucky and yuh get away with one...that's the game....

It's always easy to be dismissive or philosophical about a bad call when you're on the lucky end of it...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 07, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
I used to listen to dem regular a while back. Didn't know that bout Curtis doh.

Seriously? Joy Division?

wha dansteel...yuh shock meh dey

just saw the movie on Ian Curtis...he was a city fan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 07, 2011, 11:01:53 PM
Seriously? Joy Division?

wha dansteel...yuh shock meh dey

just saw the movie on Ian Curtis...he was a city fan

I think the band was split between United and City fans...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 07, 2011, 11:14:24 PM
Nobody's perfect. ;D
Still a big band tho.
Seriously? Joy Division?

wha dansteel...yuh shock meh dey

just saw the movie on Ian Curtis...he was a city fan

I think the band was split between United and City fans...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 08, 2011, 02:45:10 AM
If memory serves me correct, Pepe Reina got sent off for a similar (but a little worse) tackle on Eidur Gudjohnsen a few years ago so evra really could consider himelsf lucky but it's done, now.  Tuesday is do-or-die time.
   fantasia, thanks for the compliments.  Coming from you, it feels like being knighted but please bear in mind that I have far too many memories of manu's failings than to be bitter about their successes.....nor do most of their fans, like you, have any redeeming quality to be envious of.  So yuh could wail like a witch when allyuh win or cry bloddy murder when you don't and people's opinions of y'all wouldn't get any better, or any worse. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 08, 2011, 04:17:04 AM
Ahhhhhhhhh Smmmmeeeeeeeeeeeellllll that........ envy  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 09, 2011, 11:46:22 AM
Job done today; Michael Jackson's statue had more life and intent than Fulham today. We will take it! Ando, Berba, Valencia, Nani, Evra and Smalling looked good today. I respect Berba for playing when he gets his chance and not sulking around the field. I think Valencia has retuurned a better player; more creative in his dribble and it appears he has discovered he has a left peg that he can sometimes use to pass the ball with.
 Nani doesn't need the recognition of the bias English media or EPL players; his teamates and United supporters appreaciate what he brings to the table and the team. United winning trophies this season will also be more than enough, let the runners up take the individual prizes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 12, 2011, 08:27:44 AM
time to raise the f**king roof

Massive game today.. and then another massive one on the weekend at Wembley...  I love April and May!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on April 12, 2011, 08:47:33 AM
time to raise the f**king roof

Massive game today.. and then another massive one on the weekend at Wembley...  I love April and May!

Dat sound like two bad ting from Santa Cruz.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 12, 2011, 08:48:27 AM
time to raise the f**king roof

Massive game today.. and then another massive one on the weekend at Wembley...  I love April and May!

Dat sound like two bad ting from Santa Cruz.  :devil:

 :rotfl:  wouldnt doubt they out in Cantaro now doing their thing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
Any links for the match? Trapped at work!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
http://www.firefoots.com/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 12, 2011, 01:20:14 PM
Petr Cech is easily the most overrated keeper in the EPL... what a shithong.  He got lucky that Hernandez forehead was offside on the lean.



Van Der Sar on the other han... boss  :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 12, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
^^^^^^ That is rel :bs: Bakes. Why cause Chi Chi score that. You feel Cech eh see the lines man or the line he defense holding.


Old Trafford Home of the Cheating refs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 12, 2011, 01:28:40 PM
That is rel soft reffing. Can't touch a Man Utd player, is a yellow. Giggs Chop down Ivanovic and no card.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 01:30:36 PM
I guess Klinsman have a mexican son.... :beermug:

My link was shut down... I know that someone was going to bitch about the cards...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 12, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
I guess Klinsman have a mexican son.... :beermug:

My link was shut down... I know that someone was going to bitch about the cards...

It's not bit*hing, 3 of the softess card you will ever see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 12, 2011, 01:44:47 PM
^^^^^^ That is rel :bs: Bakes. Why cause Chi Chi score that. You feel Cech eh see the lines man or the line he defense holding.


Old Trafford Home of the Cheating refs.

They cheating, dai'z why they disallow that first Hernandez goal?

Me eh care what Cech was looking at, if he didn't play that cross better than that because he was assuming (hoping) that offside woulda be called then that validates my point.  That call was ah 50-50 call and the goal easily could have stood.  On review it was the proper call but was close enough that had the flag stayed down yuh really couldn't argue it... and Cech woulda been left with egg on he face fuh "guessing' wrong.

Is not just this call I basing my statement on... he's been getting by on past reputation ever since the injury.  Occasional moments of brilliance aside he's nowhere near the keeper allyuh Chelsea fans think he is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
50million pound substitution... enter the Drog...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 12, 2011, 01:47:34 PM
I guess Klinsman have a mexican son.... :beermug:

My link was shut down... I know that someone was going to bitch about the cards...

It's not bit*hing, 3 of the softess card you will ever see.


Shoulda been 4... Ivanovic shoulda get carded fuh that blatant dive and roll... and roll... and roll, on that Giggs challenge.  Replays showed there was no contact whatsoever... yet he lie down holding he knee and then get up faking a limp.


Meanwhile....


Torres off and Drogba on.  Shitsnake... let him go chase titles.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 12, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
Park having a boss game! Giggs like Benjamin Button we!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 12, 2011, 02:11:34 PM
now for manu to pick up some injuries lol  :devil:

i glad all yuh have extra games, who yuh set to face next rounds? shalke? real? barca?  :rotfl: spurs???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
No mercy go for their craw...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 02:19:47 PM
giggs is chelsea pappy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 02:29:10 PM
Giggs is a genetic freak... how dey combine that Ferrari engine in he chest to a human is beyond my comprehension...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on April 12, 2011, 02:33:07 PM
Veterans night at Old Trafford. Giggs, Van De Saar and Park
ManU looked like winners in every aspect of the game.  :applause:
Anelka, Torres, Essien, Lampard nutten nutten
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
GTFO Chelsea !!  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 12, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Elan, Mangow Chow and all other rent boy bitter blue bastards kindly f**k off and leave this thread and enjoy fighting for 3rd you useless twats

Torres-50 million... Hernandez-6 million

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

CHELSEA RENT BOYS HELLO HELLO CHELSEA RENT BOYS HELLO HELLO!

YOU CAN ONLY WIN WITH ATKINSON!

YOUR GETTING SACKED IN THE MORNING!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 12, 2011, 02:59:59 PM
bahahahaha  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 03:26:07 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Elan, Mangow Chow and all other rent boy bitter blue bastards kindly f**k off and leave this thread and enjoy fighting for 3rd you useless twats

Torres-50 million... Hernandez-6 million

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

CHELSEA RENT BOYS HELLO HELLO CHELSEA RENT BOYS HELLO HELLO!

YOU CAN ONLY WIN WITH ATKINSON!

YOUR GETTING SACKED IN THE MORNING!



 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh aint easy nah! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 03:28:59 PM
Giggsy!!!!! :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: United as a team and played and won as a team!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 12, 2011, 04:15:15 PM
now for manu to pick up some injuries lol  :devil:

i glad all yuh have extra games, who yuh set to face next rounds? shalke? real? barca?  :rotfl: spurs???

wheeeeeeyyyyyyyyy  :rotfl:

anyways...

the only chelsea man missing is Omar.......long i eh see him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 12, 2011, 04:49:06 PM
Is it me or does Nani play selfish sometimes.... ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 04:53:49 PM
now for manu to pick up some injuries lol  :devil:

i glad all yuh have extra games, who yuh set to face next rounds? shalke? real? barca?  :rotfl: spurs???

wheeeeeeyyyyyyyyy  :rotfl:

anyways...

the only chelsea man missing is Omar.......long i eh see him.


He did predict the demise of United when Rooney was playin the arse! Hmm I wonder how that is working out?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 12, 2011, 06:25:04 PM
Like I said in the last game:

Two words- Ryan Giggs...

Classiest player at Man U and possibly in all the EPL.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on April 12, 2011, 06:33:35 PM
Is it me or does Nani play selfish sometimes.... ???

It's not just you, he fraustrates the hell outta me sometimes when he holds on to the ball too long. I've watched him in many games try too hard to be on the score sheet and he can make the simple pass so the team can score. He's the kind of player you live and die with if he was to carry the team but I'll give him credit though, he's had a stellar season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 12, 2011, 07:15:01 PM
^^^^^^ That is rel :bs: Bakes. Why cause Chi Chi score that. You feel Cech eh see the lines man or the line he defense holding.


Old Trafford Home of the Cheating refs.

They cheating, dai'z why they disallow that first Hernandez goal?

Me eh care what Cech was looking at, if he didn't play that cross better than that because he was assuming (hoping) that offside woulda be called then that validates my point.  That call was ah 50-50 call and the goal easily could have stood.  On review it was the proper call but was close enough that had the flag stayed down yuh really couldn't argue it... and Cech woulda been left with egg on he face fuh "guessing' wrong.

Is not just this call I basing my statement on... he's been getting by on past reputation ever since the injury.  Occasional moments of brilliance aside he's nowhere near the keeper allyuh Chelsea fans think he is.


  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 12, 2011, 08:08:21 PM
yuh have to admit eh, allyuh buy the man in a real shitty spell......
allyuh pay waaay tooo much for an always injured out of form striker....

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 12, 2011, 08:18:12 PM
yuh have to admit eh, allyuh buy the man in a real shitty spell......
allyuh pay waaay tooo much for an always injured out of form striker....



But you also have to admit, ANY time Chelsea or Abramovic is making an offer for a player, the asking price is ALWAYS going to be higher than average and Abramovic, more often than not, will pay the asking price.  The man going through some poor form right now, not as big a deal as if it continues well into next season. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 12, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
yuh have to admit eh, allyuh buy the man in a real shitty spell......
allyuh pay waaay tooo much for an always injured out of form striker....



Yhey didnt need him in the first place!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 12, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 

Jackass... Elan is the one saying Cech was playing for offside.  I said IF that is the case then it validates my point that he shitty.  At least learn tuh f**king read before yuh come skin out yuh cyat in de thread.  If he WASN'T playing for offside then he run out to flap at the ball just as he's done on MANY occasions this season alone.  Yuh don't have to agree with it and yuh don't have to accept it.

And as for Torres... yes he's a shitsnake and it's not just about his current form.  Yuh quick to make argument without basise.  If yuh was to read my comments in the Liverpool thread long before the transfer you'd see I was fighting against fight to still support him, while complaining about his attitude and body language.  Fact is he quit on Liverpool and force a transfer at the last possible minute putting the club in a desperate situation.  Thankfully allyuh greedy owner was even more desperate tuh have him.  Like I said, let him go chase hardware.  Watch him end up in La Liga after next season... IF he survives next season.

I also find it funny that according to you I acting "like a woman scorned"... de way you running after every kernel of corn I drop fuh yuh'd swear you either hungry fuh chain up, or yuh's ah jilted woman yuhself.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2011, 03:14:56 AM
  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 

Jackass... Elan is the one saying Cech was playing for offside.  I said IF that is the case then it validates my point that he shitty.  At least learn tuh f**king read before yuh come skin out yuh cyat in de thread.  If he WASN'T playing for offside then he run out to flap at the ball just as he's done on MANY occasions this season alone.  Yuh don't have to agree with it and yuh don't have to accept it.

And as for Torres... yes he's a shitsnake and it's not just about his current form.  Yuh quick to make argument without basise.  If yuh was to read my comments in the Liverpool thread long before the transfer you'd see I was fighting against fight to still support him, while complaining about his attitude and body language.  Fact is he quit on Liverpool and force a transfer at the last possible minute putting the club in a desperate situation.  Thankfully allyuh greedy owner was even more desperate tuh have him.  Like I said, let him go chase hardware.  Watch him end up in La Liga after next season... IF he survives next season.

I also find it funny that according to you I acting "like a woman scorned"... de way you running after every kernel of corn I drop fuh yuh'd swear you either hungry fuh chain up, or yuh's ah jilted woman yuhself.



only a c**t like you would assume that I quoted both of you but can't see who wrote what.  Only a frowzy c**t like you would not recognize that I am addressing you, because even if elan offererd up his own theory, you is the one always acting to be smarter than and more knowledgeable about football than everybody else.  My statement about Cech not playing for offside is obviously directed at both of you, since elan bought it up and you, with all your self-proclaimed expert analysis, was stupid enough to fight him dong about it.  Albeit on a play blown dead, that had no bearing on the game.  If you really know what you were talking about you wasn't going to waste time with elan's theory.....according to you.   The clean sheets that Cech and the Chelsea defense have been turning out year after year, flies in the face of your grandiose assertion that he is "overrated" and "shitty" and yuh swear yuh sayin' sumting.  You cannot even tell where Cech's game has supposedly dropped off so much since his injury but yuh jumpin' on the bandwagon about his form. Your shit side could do with some of them clean sheets instead of flaming out in the EPL every year and being eliminated by second-tier Portuguese teams.
    Like I said before, yuh was gladly biting in to Torres' testicles when he was scoring goals all over the place up until the last time he scored against chelsea.  He wanted to leave a side that rafa and the owners took from a lucky CL Trophy, to the shambolic shell of its old self in no time flat, struggling for fourth place, year in, year out.  Yuh should be glad that Chelsea's greedy owner came and offered y'all sorry side a 50M lifeline to get rid of a man that was becoming a cancer to your team.  It helped allyuh get a player yuh so despised after the World Cup but whose nuts you are rapidly subbin' in yuh mouth for Torres own.....but yet yuh still bitter.  Where Torres end up next year or the year after that is no concern.  Chelsea will be playing for a CL trophy next year.  You predictin' the future but cyah even see the present.  You must be the only c**t in this whole universe that still think Dunga coaching Brazil as per your dumb post yesterday. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 13, 2011, 06:25:46 AM
yuh have to admit eh, allyuh buy the man in a real shitty spell......
allyuh pay waaay tooo much for an always injured out of form striker....



Yhey didnt need him in the first place!
i just glad Utd didnt buy he.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on April 13, 2011, 11:34:32 AM
Is it me or does Nani play selfish sometimes.... ???
Is definitely you because nani does play selfish all the time!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on April 13, 2011, 12:21:00 PM
  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 

Jackass... Elan is the one saying Cech was playing for offside.  I said IF that is the case then it validates my point that he shitty.  At least learn tuh f**king read before yuh come skin out yuh cyat in de thread.  If he WASN'T playing for offside then he run out to flap at the ball just as he's done on MANY occasions this season alone.  Yuh don't have to agree with it and yuh don't have to accept it.

And as for Torres... yes he's a shitsnake and it's not just about his current form.  Yuh quick to make argument without basise.  If yuh was to read my comments in the Liverpool thread long before the transfer you'd see I was fighting against fight to still support him, while complaining about his attitude and body language.  Fact is he quit on Liverpool and force a transfer at the last possible minute putting the club in a desperate situation.  Thankfully allyuh greedy owner was even more desperate tuh have him.  Like I said, let him go chase hardware.  Watch him end up in La Liga after next season... IF he survives next season.

I also find it funny that according to you I acting "like a woman scorned"... de way you running after every kernel of corn I drop fuh yuh'd swear you either hungry fuh chain up, or yuh's ah jilted woman yuhself.



only a c**t like you would assume that I quoted both of you but can't see who wrote what.  Only a frowzy c**t like you would not recognize that I am addressing you, because even if elan offererd up his own theory, you is the one always acting to be smarter than and more knowledgeable about football than everybody else.  My statement about Cech not playing for offside is obviously directed at both of you, since elan bought it up and you, with all your self-proclaimed expert analysis, was stupid enough to fight him dong about it.  Albeit on a play blown dead, that had no bearing on the game.  If you really know what you were talking about you wasn't going to waste time with elan's theory.....according to you.   The clean sheets that Cech and the Chelsea defense have been turning out year after year, flies in the face of your grandiose assertion that he is "overrated" and "shitty" and yuh swear yuh sayin' sumting.  You cannot even tell where Cech's game has supposedly dropped off so much since his injury but yuh jumpin' on the bandwagon about his form. Your shit side could do with some of them clean sheets instead of flaming out in the EPL every year and being eliminated by second-tier Portuguese teams.
    Like I said before, yuh was gladly biting in to Torres' testicles when he was scoring goals all over the place up until the last time he scored against chelsea.  He wanted to leave a side that rafa and the owners took from a lucky CL Trophy, to the shambolic shell of its old self in no time flat, struggling for fourth place, year in, year out.  Yuh should be glad that Chelsea's greedy owner came and offered y'all sorry side a 50M lifeline to get rid of a man that was becoming a cancer to your team.  It helped allyuh get a player yuh so despised after the World Cup but whose nuts you are rapidly subbin' in yuh mouth for Torres own.....but yet yuh still bitter.  Where Torres end up next year or the year after that is no concern.  Chelsea will be playing for a CL trophy next year.  You predictin' the future but cyah even see the present.  You must be the only c**t in this whole universe that still think Dunga coaching Brazil as per your dumb post yesterday. 

Eh bwouy, take yuh grumpy self off this thread nah. Go back and cry with de rest of yuh Chelsea goons over that side. Yuh spell offered wrong by de way. Just wanted to point that out as everything else was so eloquently typed.

Bless
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 13, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
only a c**t like you would assume that I quoted both of you but can't see who wrote what.  Only a frowzy c**t like you would not recognize that I am addressing you, because even if elan offererd up his own theory, you is the one always acting to be smarter than and more knowledgeable about football than everybody else.  My statement about Cech not playing for offside is obviously directed at both of you, since elan bought it up and you, with all your self-proclaimed expert analysis, was stupid enough to fight him dong about it.  Albeit on a play blown dead, that had no bearing on the game.  If you really know what you were talking about you wasn't going to waste time with elan's theory.....according to you.   The clean sheets that Cech and the Chelsea defense have been turning out year after year, flies in the face of your grandiose assertion that he is "overrated" and "shitty" and yuh swear yuh sayin' sumting.  You cannot even tell where Cech's game has supposedly dropped off so much since his injury but yuh jumpin' on the bandwagon about his form. Your shit side could do with some of them clean sheets instead of flaming out in the EPL every year and being eliminated by second-tier Portuguese teams.
    Like I said before, yuh was gladly biting in to Torres' testicles when he was scoring goals all over the place up until the last time he scored against chelsea.  He wanted to leave a side that rafa and the owners took from a lucky CL Trophy, to the shambolic shell of its old self in no time flat, struggling for fourth place, year in, year out.  Yuh should be glad that Chelsea's greedy owner came and offered y'all sorry side a 50M lifeline to get rid of a man that was becoming a cancer to your team.  It helped allyuh get a player yuh so despised after the World Cup but whose nuts you are rapidly subbin' in yuh mouth for Torres own.....but yet yuh still bitter.  Where Torres end up next year or the year after that is no concern.  Chelsea will be playing for a CL trophy next year.  You predictin' the future but cyah even see the present.  You must be the only c**t in this whole universe that still think Dunga coaching Brazil as per your dumb post yesterday. 

Ignoring your whoremotional tantrums...

How I fighting dong Elan on his point if HE disagreed with something I said and I'm following up to support my original statement?  Take yuh bias head out yuh ass fuh ah change and stop toting feelings like a li'l bitch.  The fact that the play was "blown dead" has no bearing on the discussion of Cech's actions on that play because he still come out flapping at the ball and get beat.  I didn't jump on no bandwagon because I didn't see anybody else saying he overrated... and I can tell you EXACTLY where his game fell off, he's not as assertive challenging for balls as he was before the injury.  He hesitates if he thinks there's going to be any contact on a challenge.  This hesitation means that he's often late going for balls that other keepers (including himself pre-injury) would go for.  As a result of his lack of confidence he has become more error prone and skittish, as has been the case often during the past two seasons, including the mix up with him and Ivanovic in the Liverpool replay at Stamford Bridge.  You talking about how much clean sheets he and the defense "turning out year after year" supposed to say what... other than Chelsea has a very good defense?

Now yuh trying to turn the talk about Cech into talk about Liverpool being a "shit side"... okay, they shitty.. but what that have to do with Cech? lol  And all this homo talk about "biting man testicles" and "subbing man nuts" in mouth in a football argument shows exactly where yuh head is... a fisherman only talks about fish.  You happy with Torres then good for you... Liverpool fans happy with Suarez... and yes, I will still villify him for his blatant cheating at the world cup and still be happy with how he playing fuh my shit side (who will win the same amount of trophies as your shit side).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 13, 2011, 12:49:41 PM
Is it me or does Nani play selfish sometimes.... ???
Is definitely you because nani does play selfish all the time!

The most frustrating thing about yesterday was that he was getting great balls while he was on the wings. He would cut in, but instead of looking for a lay off he looking for a shot. He eh skillful enough or he do have the drive that CRonaldo, Messi, Lampard has... We should have put at least 3 on Chelski... The thing I like about Ji Sung Pak is that he does work and eh selfish...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 13, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
Schalke 04 next for us .

Barca vs Real next semi  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 13, 2011, 03:23:58 PM
  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 

Jackass... Elan is the one saying Cech was playing for offside.  I said IF that is the case then it validates my point that he shitty.  At least learn tuh f**king read before yuh come skin out yuh cyat in de thread.  If he WASN'T playing for offside then he run out to flap at the ball just as he's done on MANY occasions this season alone.  Yuh don't have to agree with it and yuh don't have to accept it.

And as for Torres... yes he's a shitsnake and it's not just about his current form.  Yuh quick to make argument without basise.  If yuh was to read my comments in the Liverpool thread long before the transfer you'd see I was fighting against fight to still support him, while complaining about his attitude and body language.  Fact is he quit on Liverpool and force a transfer at the last possible minute putting the club in a desperate situation.  Thankfully allyuh greedy owner was even more desperate tuh have him.  Like I said, let him go chase hardware.  Watch him end up in La Liga after next season... IF he survives next season.

I also find it funny that according to you I acting "like a woman scorned"... de way you running after every kernel of corn I drop fuh yuh'd swear you either hungry fuh chain up, or yuh's ah jilted woman yuhself.

I never say Cech "playing offside or playing for offside" I said he saw. It may have been late but for me he saw and pulled out the save last minute.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 13, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
F@#K alyuh Man United P@ss#es. Shit football against we. Winning is all that matters though and you did it when it did, but you all eh playing any kinda football to talk about, is only so much counter attacking yuh could do. Not forgetting the arse of ah coach who put Torres and Anelka on the field together. :bs:

I go take meh licks. Meh team still play rel football.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 13, 2011, 03:38:08 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
I never say Cech "playing offside or playing for offside" I said he saw. It may have been late but for me he saw and pulled out the save last minute.

Nah Cech didn't pull out ah de save... he went to collect the cross and get beat to de ball by Hernandez, watch it again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 13, 2011, 03:44:03 PM
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Proud in Victory
Loyal in Defeat
Blue Through and Through
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 13, 2011, 03:55:27 PM
I guess we played fake football and won... where is the logic behind that...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 13, 2011, 03:59:32 PM
I guess we played fake football and won... where is the logic behind that...

Don't play yuh eh know what ah talking about. I give yuh yuh win. Alyuh buss we tail.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 13, 2011, 04:59:37 PM
I guess we played fake football and won... where is the logic behind that...

Don't play yuh eh know what ah talking about. I give yuh yuh win. Alyuh buss we tail.

doh study it, City looking for supporters next year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2011, 08:22:05 PM
only a c**t like you would assume that I quoted both of you but can't see who wrote what.  Only a frowzy c**t like you would not recognize that I am addressing you, because even if elan offererd up his own theory, you is the one always acting to be smarter than and more knowledgeable about football than everybody else.  My statement about Cech not playing for offside is obviously directed at both of you, since elan bought it up and you, with all your self-proclaimed expert analysis, was stupid enough to fight him dong about it.  Albeit on a play blown dead, that had no bearing on the game.  If you really know what you were talking about you wasn't going to waste time with elan's theory.....according to you.   The clean sheets that Cech and the Chelsea defense have been turning out year after year, flies in the face of your grandiose assertion that he is "overrated" and "shitty" and yuh swear yuh sayin' sumting.  You cannot even tell where Cech's game has supposedly dropped off so much since his injury but yuh jumpin' on the bandwagon about his form. Your shit side could do with some of them clean sheets instead of flaming out in the EPL every year and being eliminated by second-tier Portuguese teams.
    Like I said before, yuh was gladly biting in to Torres' testicles when he was scoring goals all over the place up until the last time he scored against chelsea.  He wanted to leave a side that rafa and the owners took from a lucky CL Trophy, to the shambolic shell of its old self in no time flat, struggling for fourth place, year in, year out.  Yuh should be glad that Chelsea's greedy owner came and offered y'all sorry side a 50M lifeline to get rid of a man that was becoming a cancer to your team.  It helped allyuh get a player yuh so despised after the World Cup but whose nuts you are rapidly subbin' in yuh mouth for Torres own.....but yet yuh still bitter.  Where Torres end up next year or the year after that is no concern.  Chelsea will be playing for a CL trophy next year.  You predictin' the future but cyah even see the present.  You must be the only c**t in this whole universe that still think Dunga coaching Brazil as per your dumb post yesterday. 

Ignoring your whoremotional tantrums...

How I fighting dong Elan on his point if HE disagreed with something I said and I'm following up to support my original statement?  Take yuh bias head out yuh ass fuh ah change and stop toting feelings like a li'l bitch.  The fact that the play was "blown dead" has no bearing on the discussion of Cech's actions on that play because he still come out flapping at the ball and get beat.  I didn't jump on no bandwagon because I didn't see anybody else saying he overrated... and I can tell you EXACTLY where his game fell off, he's not as assertive challenging for balls as he was before the injury.  He hesitates if he thinks there's going to be any contact on a challenge.  This hesitation means that he's often late going for balls that other keepers (including himself pre-injury) would go for.  As a result of his lack of confidence he has become more error prone and skittish, as has been the case often during the past two seasons, including the mix up with him and Ivanovic in the Liverpool replay at Stamford Bridge.  You talking about how much clean sheets he and the defense "turning out year after year" supposed to say what... other than Chelsea has a very good defense?

Now yuh trying to turn the talk about Cech into talk about Liverpool being a "shit side"... okay, they shitty.. but what that have to do with Cech? lol  And all this homo talk about "biting man testicles" and "subbing man nuts" in mouth in a football argument shows exactly where yuh head is... a fisherman only talks about fish.  You happy with Torres then good for you... Liverpool fans happy with Suarez... and yes, I will still villify him for his blatant cheating at the world cup and still be happy with how he playing fuh my shit side (who will win the same amount of trophies as your shit side).

Yuh come back wit dat fisherman and fish analogy again?  Maybe it applies to you when  yuh does want to be tellin' people how dey suckin' balls and ting but since yuh back out of meetin' meh anywhere in NYC to "talk football" face-to-face, kindareserve the bitch and homo talk fuh when yuh brushin' yuh teeth nuh...
in the meantime, since yuh claim yuh want to talk football now, hear this:  I know yuh does lke to repeat certain catch phrase that makes yuh feel like yuh makin' a point, but just for the record, a GK only "flaps" at a ball when he comes out for a cross and completely misses it or makes a hash of it.  Being beaten to the ball like Cech was yesterday doesn't count because an opponent getting to the ball before him is not always
a result of poor judgment on the 'keeper's part.  Cech initially hesitated on the cross only because he struggled a bit to read the trajaectory.   Once he decided to come for it, he started and then realised that hernandez came out of where ever he came from and was going to beat him to the ball and in an instant his objective changed from attempting to gather up the cross to trying to make a save on whatever hernandez was going to do/did You wouldn't relate to this because all you know is to repeat what you hear, never having spent any valuable time involved in goalkeeping. 
  Since Cech tell yuh that he is "skittish" to avoid contact on "some" plays, he ever explain to yuh why he has on many occaision, risked injury on others? Find out fuh meh nuh?  Since yuh playin' more dumb than usual, I specifically mentioned the chelsea defense and Petr Cech being responsible for all the clean sheets they have turned out over the years.  That type of consistency can only come from a combination of great defending and great goalkeeping, yuh twat, unless yuh want me to break it dong even more fuh yuh? Yuh ain't as bright as yuh think you are.   
   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 13, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
  Validates what point?  You're not making any.  Cech wasn't playin' for no offside.  The cross was delivered at the ideal place that gives GK's nightmares and he realised at the last instant that hernandez was beating his defender and him (Cech) to the ball.  Plain and simple.  It happens to GK's all the time.   The only way he would have been able to play that particular cross "better" would have been if he had cheated on the cross and that may not have been a wise thing to do, either.
......just as funny is how Torres is suddenly a "shitsnake" in your eyes.  When he was scorin' goals for liverpool, leff an' right, including his most recent ones he score against Chelsea, yuh couldn't wet up yuh victoria secrets enough, could you? Now he gone to a better team and yuh gettin' them all messy and red like a liverpool kit.  Yuh actin' like a woman scorned and is not a good look. 

 

Jackass... Elan is the one saying Cech was playing for offside.  I said IF that is the case then it validates my point that he shitty.  At least learn tuh f**king read before yuh come skin out yuh cyat in de thread.  If he WASN'T playing for offside then he run out to flap at the ball just as he's done on MANY occasions this season alone.  Yuh don't have to agree with it and yuh don't have to accept it.

And as for Torres... yes he's a shitsnake and it's not just about his current form.  Yuh quick to make argument without basise.  If yuh was to read my comments in the Liverpool thread long before the transfer you'd see I was fighting against fight to still support him, while complaining about his attitude and body language.  Fact is he quit on Liverpool and force a transfer at the last possible minute putting the club in a desperate situation.  Thankfully allyuh greedy owner was even more desperate tuh have him.  Like I said, let him go chase hardware.  Watch him end up in La Liga after next season... IF he survives next season.

I also find it funny that according to you I acting "like a woman scorned"... de way you running after every kernel of corn I drop fuh yuh'd swear you either hungry fuh chain up, or yuh's ah jilted woman yuhself.



only a c**t like you would assume that I quoted both of you but can't see who wrote what.  Only a frowzy c**t like you would not recognize that I am addressing you, because even if elan offererd up his own theory, you is the one always acting to be smarter than and more knowledgeable about football than everybody else.  My statement about Cech not playing for offside is obviously directed at both of you, since elan bought it up and you, with all your self-proclaimed expert analysis, was stupid enough to fight him dong about it.  Albeit on a play blown dead, that had no bearing on the game.  If you really know what you were talking about you wasn't going to waste time with elan's theory.....according to you.   The clean sheets that Cech and the Chelsea defense have been turning out year after year, flies in the face of your grandiose assertion that he is "overrated" and "shitty" and yuh swear yuh sayin' sumting.  You cannot even tell where Cech's game has supposedly dropped off so much since his injury but yuh jumpin' on the bandwagon about his form. Your shit side could do with some of them clean sheets instead of flaming out in the EPL every year and being eliminated by second-tier Portuguese teams.
    Like I said before, yuh was gladly biting in to Torres' testicles when he was scoring goals all over the place up until the last time he scored against chelsea.  He wanted to leave a side that rafa and the owners took from a lucky CL Trophy, to the shambolic shell of its old self in no time flat, struggling for fourth place, year in, year out.  Yuh should be glad that Chelsea's greedy owner came and offered y'all sorry side a 50M lifeline to get rid of a man that was becoming a cancer to your team.  It helped allyuh get a player yuh so despised after the World Cup but whose nuts you are rapidly subbin' in yuh mouth for Torres own.....but yet yuh still bitter.  Where Torres end up next year or the year after that is no concern.  Chelsea will be playing for a CL trophy next year.  You predictin' the future but cyah even see the present.  You must be the only c**t in this whole universe that still think Dunga coaching Brazil as per your dumb post yesterday. 

Eh bwouy, take yuh grumpy self off this thread nah. Go back and cry with de rest of yuh Chelsea goons over that side. Yuh spell offered wrong by de way. Just wanted to point that out as everything else was so eloquently typed.

Bless

Well obviously if, in your humble opinion, it was eloquently typed then that wasn't a misspelling, it was a typo.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 16, 2011, 12:26:19 PM
I go say it now before I go out and everyone call meh out

Congrats.. we should have buried them in the 1st half ... it came back to haunt us.. we gifted them a goal and gifted them a FA Cup title shot

An absolute nightmare day .. but that is how it goes.. their fans get the same thing we feeling now time and time again from us so everyone has their day in the sun and knowing City they will blow the final to Stoke or Bolton

Cant believe we blew today's opportunity and a possible Treble on the cards.. cannot believe it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 16, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
No Giggs no glory....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 16, 2011, 12:41:41 PM
No Giggs no glory....

Fergie got everything f**king wrong today...I couldnt not believe Giggs was not on the bench.. fine he played 2 tough games vs Chelsea but that was inexcusable to leave him out entirely and rely on f**king Gibson and Anderson to change the midfield.. then take off Valencia when we finally switch to 4-4-2 and leave on Park who tried but never had his touch today... and the icing on the cake was Fabio instead of bringing on Owen and just gambling ..Fergie has lost his boldness today

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 16, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
I go say it now before I go out and everyone call meh out

Congrats.. we should have buried them in the 1st half ... it came back to haunt us.. we gifted them a goal and gifted them a FA Cup title shot

An absolute nightmare day .. but that is how it goes.. their fans get the same thing we feeling now time and time again from us so everyone has their day in the sun and knowing City they will blow the final to Stoke or Bolton

Cant believe we blew today's opportunity and a possible Treble on the cards.. cannot believe it

City should have scored at least 2 more in the second half... so easy on that "we gifted them a FA Cup title" talk.  Barry made a poor pass on a 4 vs. 2 to Toure who was clipped from behind by Vidic (no call, which was correct) and ended up in a scramble with Van Der Sar.  Better pass and that was in the back of the net.  Johnson also skinned Evra on the touchline only to try to sneak the ball past VDS from an impossible angle rather than square.  There was an even better chance still when Kolarov broke in from the left side and skied a shot wide and high rather than cross to either Balotelli and/or an unmarked Toure.

But it wasn't all one-way traffic... Nani had a sweet free kick come off Balotelli head and almost in... but for the left hand of Hart who had already gone past the flight of the ball.



Speaking of Balotelli... what an enigmatic player.  Boss game offset by moments of petulance and uninspired effort.  At one point he gave the ball away in the second half, hung his head (he was being harangued by the City supporters) and walked back up field.  Mancini and Ray Parks were livid, and Mancini in particular didn't let up for a full 2-3 mins.  God alone knows what he did/said at the end to set Ferdinand off.

But good game still... great game by Yaya... great win for City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 16, 2011, 01:08:07 PM
Scholes, I love you but is time for you to retire because you are no longer positively effective on the field. Unfortunately Berbatov had one of those games today and I find the whole side made poor decisions when we had the ball. We did not play as a team today and really lacked drive. Park needed to come off because it appeared that he got tired and I would have started Rafa instead of O'Shea. One less trophy to win. No excuses now regarding the EPL and at least getting to the CL final.

Go Stoke!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 16, 2011, 01:16:07 PM
I go say it now before I go out and everyone call meh out

Congrats.. we should have buried them in the 1st half ... it came back to haunt us.. we gifted them a goal and gifted them a FA Cup title shot

An absolute nightmare day .. but that is how it goes.. their fans get the same thing we feeling now time and time again from us so everyone has their day in the sun and knowing City they will blow the final to Stoke or Bolton

Cant believe we blew today's opportunity and a possible Treble on the cards.. cannot believe it

Listen, when I see dem miss chances by Berbatov, something tell me it wasn't going to be our day. When Berbatov miss early chances it usually means he wasn't ready to play and the rest of his game was going to be shit! Just be thankful we still have the opportunity to win at least one trophy two if our plays show up mentally!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 16, 2011, 03:55:39 PM

Congratulations on making it to another FA Cup Final Manchester Untied!


Oh wait... You mean... Its not United that won? City! Wow

So Manchester isn't Guaranteed glory and success?

Hard luck manu fans deal with it!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 16, 2011, 04:06:07 PM

Congratulations on making it to another FA Cup Final Manchester Untied!


Oh wait... You mean... Its not United that won? City! Wow

So Manchester isn't Guaranteed glory and success?

Hard luck manu fans deal with it!


Excited much?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 16, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
Couldn't give two shits but like to enjoy when the shoe is on the other foot
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 16, 2011, 05:00:08 PM
Fergie got everything f**king wrong today...I couldnt not believe Giggs was not on the bench.. fine he played 2 tough games vs Chelsea but that was inexcusable to leave him out entirely and rely on f**king Gibson and Anderson to change the midfield.. then take off Valencia when we finally switch to 4-4-2 and leave on Park who tried but never had his touch today... and the icing on the cake was Fabio instead of bringing on Owen and just gambling ..Fergie has lost his boldness today

I think he underestimated them a bit.  I think he wanted to make a bit of an arrogant statement...

City turned up a gear after about 35 mins, and were overall the better team.  In the 10 minute period after they scored they threw everything at Utd, and Utd weathered the storm but never fully recovered.  Man U should have killed them off early, but after that needed to switch it up a bit, and inject some creativity (that they didn't have)...It was a case of no Giggs no glory - They needed that injection of skill and a turn of pace. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2011, 07:15:24 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 17, 2011, 08:34:37 AM
That's strange, I thought they were playing City. How did Arsenal come in to this? Somebody getting scared.
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on April 17, 2011, 08:57:21 AM
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HA.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2011, 09:17:32 AM


Hard luck manu fans deal with it!

Please please give us some tips, cause i mean u guys are soooooooooooooooooooooo accustomed...   :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 17, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on April 17, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 17, 2011, 11:17:39 AM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???

Is that f**king serious...  he wanna give talk he could f**king take talk

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 17, 2011, 11:23:58 AM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 17, 2011, 01:30:33 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: haha never a dull moment
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on April 17, 2011, 05:10:09 PM
gunner stunner, i hope yuh was hungry cuz like yuh had to eat yuh words. 6 years hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 19, 2011, 03:24:16 PM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



not making so much noise now are you? wankers  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 19, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???
its all the kid has to live for so sad
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 19, 2011, 06:41:59 PM
Scholes, I love you but is time for you to retire because you are no longer positively effective on the field. Unfortunately Berbatov had one of those games today and I find the whole side made poor decisions when we had the ball. We did not play as a team today and really lacked drive. Park needed to come off because it appeared that he got tired and I would have started Rafa instead of O'Shea. One less trophy to win. No excuses now regarding the EPL and at least getting to the CL final.

Go Stoke!

Talk nah!!!!
Giggsy I agree 110% bout Scholes, de touches still dey and he does make pass dat does leave meh shaking meh head, BUT he like effing Flamini now...is not IF he getting ah yellow or red but WHEN!!!

I don't know if he need to see a psychologist or who de ass does help dem with dat kinda thing, but yeah EVERY time now ah watch him, is cringing-time wid almost every tackle!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 19, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 19, 2011, 08:37:15 PM
Is long time I eh see ah team dive so much.  :o I swear one time Nani come up with pearls yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 19, 2011, 08:41:31 PM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.

Doh try dat... even he own manager chalking it up to one of his "red mist" moments.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 19, 2011, 11:42:15 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Is long time I eh see ah team dive so much.  :o I swear one time Nani come up with pearls yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 19, 2011, 11:43:38 PM
Oh, hunting's no fun when the rabbit has a gun!

HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



It dat serious?  ???

Is that f**king serious...  he wanna give talk he could f**king take talk


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 20, 2011, 05:43:55 AM
HAHAHA Stunned Gunner..  hope you enjoyed that today you bitter bitch..  haha 6 years f**k all!  the new City perhaps?  their streak might end your own going strong

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for making my day spectacular.. HAHAHAHAHA I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard.. you useless twats



no tmaking so much noise no ware you? wankers  ;D

Yes Gunner wine on them. Arsenal pick up a point against Liverpool and all of them come in the United thread to gallery like the league done now everybody internet service break down and yuh can't find them.



Every week I watching the media say “title over” because Arsenal or Chelsea draw a game. But I watching the points left on the board and the fact that there has not been an outstanding team from the lot and saying that both of them teams still in the race.

Even Sunday when Arsenal draw and Small Mag and them start to beat up they chest like title done win. I thinking this real premature because United ent even play Newcastle yet and Newcastle draw with both Arsenal and Chelsea. So said, so done.

Anyway I fully believe them two teams in it, more importantly Ancelotti and Wenger not going to let up. Chelsea have some dream fixtures and Arsenal have the advantage of the home game with United. United have better fixtures than Arsenal but them two games against Schalke is trouble.

United still in pole position but it will not take much. Losses this year at Liverpool and Chelsea will give Arsenal heart and then Chelsea will always like their chances in a one-off game if the title is in the balance because they win at Old Trafford last year in a title decider.

Arsenal – Spurs will be big. I heard a stat that Spurs have not lost a home game to a London team under Redknapp and Spurs need the points and are rested. Arsenal on the other hand have the best away record. I expecting a draw TBH but if Arsenal could win at Spurs they could win any of their remaining fixtures.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 20, 2011, 06:24:26 AM
i hav eno predictions but to quote fergie

"when we saw who the offical was we feared the worst"

martin atkinson reffin this game

lord help us
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 20, 2011, 06:26:08 AM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.

Doh try dat... even he own manager chalking it up to one of his "red mist" moments.

Thanks Bakes.....oh (and Peong breds) I watchin football long enough to know bout getting 'stuck in'....like ah say before Scholes at a stage where I (and I know ah not alone) does cringe an wince EVERY (!!!!) time he gets, 'stuck in'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 20, 2011, 06:34:51 AM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.

Doh try dat... even he own manager chalking it up to one of his "red mist" moments.

Thanks Bakes.....oh (and Peong breds) I watchin football long enough to know bout getting 'stuck in'....like ah say before Scholes at a stage where I (and I know ah not alone) does cringe an wince EVERY (!!!!) time he gets, 'stuck in'
maybe he knows what he's doing, has he injured anyone badly with his stuck in tackles?
lucky he hasnt broken someones leg yet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 20, 2011, 07:00:12 AM
Thanks Bakes.....oh (and Peong breds) I watchin football long enough to know bout getting 'stuck in'....like ah say before Scholes at a stage where I (and I know ah not alone) does cringe an wince EVERY (!!!!) time he gets, 'stuck in'

I am pretty sure that Peong wasn't being serious.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 20, 2011, 08:15:22 AM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.

Doh try dat... even he own manager chalking it up to one of his "red mist" moments.

Tongue in cheek fellas.
Bakes you really think he did that on purpose, or was just goin after the ball?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 20, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
All Scholes doin is gettin stuck in.

Doh try dat... even he own manager chalking it up to one of his "red mist" moments.

Tongue in cheek fellas.
Bakes you really think he did that on purpose, or was just goin after the ball?

OOPS!!! Mea maxima culpa Peong:)

My thing is, he does more harm (to the team) than opposing players...that last red card being a classic example.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 20, 2011, 12:12:03 PM
Tongue in cheek fellas.
Bakes you really think he did that on purpose, or was just goin after the ball?

Doh worry, I pick up on the sarcasm... I interpreted yuh comment not as yuh own opinion, but rather as a backhand slap at the English... since that borderline dirty tackling is what they compliment as "putting in a good shift".  My comment about Fergie was to show the tackle is outside of even what's acceptable in England, that not even Fergie trying to defend it (that it's not complimentary play).

I think he was going after the ball... I think Scholes belongs to the same school of thought as de Jong... put the fear of God in a man and he'll think twice about going after a 50-50 ball when you arung.  If yuh happen tuh pick up ah yellow in the process small thing. Problem for Scholes is that age ketching up to his legs and his timing isn't what he thinks (or expects) it to be.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 20, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
arsenal drop to 3rd  :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 20, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
arsenal drop to 3rd  :heehee:

oh shims..... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 20, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on April 20, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say


lol u mad?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on April 20, 2011, 03:14:27 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say


lol u mad?

FF go worry about what happening in the Copa Del Ray nah!  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2011, 03:21:27 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say


lol u mad?

 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 20, 2011, 04:03:02 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say


lol u mad?

 :devil:

Nah
I just forgot that the majority of the posters here to effin chupid, probably don't have enough passes to even be a policeman in TnT

Or went QRC
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 20, 2011, 04:21:35 PM
5 years now ah waiting for Arseanal to win a forking trophee... Even Old muttha hubbard know that that cupboard eh have nutten in it....

its lika ppl think Arsenal only started out when they moved to the emirates

this jackassness thinking is typical of sheep, empty cupboards my ass, you feel all the rest we won before we left in highbury??? jackassness i say


lol u mad?

 :devil:

Nah
I just forgot that the majority of the posters here to effin chupid, probably don't have enough passes to even be a policeman in TnT

Or went QRC
 :rotfl:

Hello...



My name is Gunner, and.............................................................

I


I

I have a problem.....

I am an arsenal fan........................................................  :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:

I come here to ask.............................

no plead for your help....................  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 20, 2011, 04:32:58 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Lets home we handle our business.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 20, 2011, 07:54:50 PM
It doh matter how dunce we is.... it does not change the facts that you all are the whiny middle child of the EPL.... always the bridesmaid never the bride... but I'm sure that the excuses will be, that you all were young and played pretty football.... :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 20, 2011, 10:28:47 PM
Congrats to our youth team for absolutely battering Chelsea today 4-0 and moving on to the FA youth cup final

Too bad rent boys.. maybe you can go buy a 30 million pound u18 player and try to buy success there too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 21, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
Congrats to our youth team for absolutely battering Chelsea today 4-0 and moving on to the FA youth cup final

Too bad rent boys.. maybe you can go buy a 30 million pound u18 player and try to buy success there too

they senior squad to be called rent boys, ole ho's is more fitting
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 23, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
How was that not a penalty?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 23, 2011, 07:28:01 AM
CHICHARITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 23, 2011, 07:31:02 AM
pressure buss dey pipe!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
So arsenal out of the race  ::) , Chelsea left
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 25, 2011, 09:36:48 AM
ah yes Rio Ferdinand, ye of fouls in the box without penalty lol

i never see a big man play horsey on another mans back like rio did on saturday and not get called out for it.

luck favors the reds oui lol :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: davidephraim on April 25, 2011, 08:13:50 PM
not luck. Fergie take a tun in dey ass de other day and all dem refs back off. Real funny. Ferdinand and Evra back to back have given up penalties but we dont want to upset fergie. He may not attend the royal wedding.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on April 25, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
not luck. Fergie take a tun in dey ass de other day and all dem refs back off. Real funny. Ferdinand and Evra back to back have given up penalties but we dont want to upset fergie. He may not attend the royal wedding.
Oh god that tickled me to read that, keep it coming sir lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 25, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
not luck. Fergie take a tun in dey ass de other day and all dem refs back off. Real funny. Ferdinand and Evra back to back have given up penalties but we dont want to upset fergie. He may not attend the royal wedding.

Doh fuhget Vidic against Liverpool...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: masterblaster on April 26, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Bottom line.....All dese other teams wastin dey supporters time......Man U is the greatest...dat is why everyone does hate on we!!!  At de end of dis season we will be sayin "goodbye Ancellotti" and "goodbye Wenger"...."It was nice knowin u guys"....LOL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 26, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
Live feeds

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=113998&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 26, 2011, 01:32:27 PM
Right now it Man.U vs Neuer.....that man making some big saves, we could have been 4-0 up if it was not for those saves he made.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on April 26, 2011, 02:10:51 PM
United  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 26, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
Almost there.. massive 3 games ahead.. Arsenal away Schalke home and Chelsea home..come on lads!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2011, 04:25:44 PM
Right now it Man.U vs Neuer.....that man making some big saves, we could have been 4-0 up if it was not for those saves he made.

Trini did you lead the masses to run yuh boy Gibbo off twitter? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 26, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
Lord Nani GPS when he on the left does go haywire!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 26, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Lord Nani GPS when he on the left does go haywire!

he too f**king greedy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2011, 07:04:38 AM
game on!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 01, 2011, 08:30:35 AM
Ferdinand is ah huge failure yes....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2011, 09:01:03 AM
Utd really like to win things hard yes  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 01, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
Utd really like to win things hard yes  :devil:

  :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 01, 2011, 09:12:31 AM
Next week is the title decider, if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 01, 2011, 09:22:23 AM
Arsenal were due; on to the next for us!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 01, 2011, 09:44:57 AM
Tough game United. Could have gone either way. Glad for the win though. :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 01, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
No Giggs no glory...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 01, 2011, 12:36:16 PM
Fergie is cracking up, cracking up
Fergie is Cracking up, cracking up............


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 02, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
Like Man United fans eh know dey play or what. How dey hiding so. Hope theyu eh come out in numbers next Sunday.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 03, 2011, 07:45:18 PM
No Rooney, hmmmmm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
Man Utd v Schalke 04 line-ups

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Smalling, Evans, O'Shea, Gibson, Scholes, Anderson, Valencia, Berbatov, Nani. Subs: Kuszczak, Evra, Owen, Giggs, Hernandez, Vidic, Fletcher.

Schalke 04: Neuer, Uchida, Howedes, Metzelder, Escudero, Papadopoulos, Jurado, Farfan, Baumjohann, Draxler, Raul. Subs: Schober, Sarpei, Edu, Schmitz, Karimi, Huntelaar, Matip.
Referee: Pedro Proenca (Portugal)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 04, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
It one out of two things:


1- SAF knows something about the CL Semis that we don't know. No coach in their right mind rest all their best players in a CL semi-finals with a 2-0 lead. (Jose comes to mind again)
2- He is scared of Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on May 04, 2011, 12:16:37 PM
Man Utd v Schalke 04 line-ups

Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Smalling, Evans, O'Shea, Gibson, Scholes, Anderson, Valencia, Berbatov, Nani. Subs: Kuszczak, Evra, Owen, Giggs, Hernandez, Vidic, Fletcher.

Schalke 04: Neuer, Uchida, Howedes, Metzelder, Escudero, Papadopoulos, Jurado, Farfan, Baumjohann, Draxler, Raul. Subs: Schober, Sarpei, Edu, Schmitz, Karimi, Huntelaar, Matip.
Referee: Pedro Proenca (Portugal)

Very athletic squad and potentially defensive as well. No space for Schalke to get their run and gun game going. Mark my words Schalke coming with all hands on deck, kamakaze football. Bayern not included, dem Germans teams does just pour forward. Easy to counter dem!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 04, 2011, 01:12:14 PM
It one out of two things:


1- SAF knows something about the CL Semis that we don't know. No coach in their right mind rest all their best players in a CL semi-finals with a 2-0 lead. (Jose comes to mind again)
2- He is scared of Chelsea.

Schalke is realllll lala....I feel West Ham Utd. could beat them easy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 04, 2011, 01:13:43 PM
Gibson surgical today yes... big up  :beermug:

Gibson Goal Oui... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 01:17:47 PM
Schalke sound like a real joke jed...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 04, 2011, 01:18:05 PM
Gibson surgical today yes... big up  :beermug:

Is trouble for dat Barca midfield in de final....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2011, 01:22:17 PM
4 - 1 aggregate shalke need 3 more to win
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on May 04, 2011, 01:40:32 PM
Dis game boring....the end predictable.....steups!!  I hate those kinds of games....so let me declare from now

GO BARCA!!!!   :devil: ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 02:17:16 PM
3-1...If it wasn't over before (like ummmm.... at kick-off), its over now. 

There should be a rule where both teams could mutually agree to blow off a game.  Man U only thinking about Chelsea on the weekend, and I could imagine that Schalke eh really wanna be on the field right now either. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2011, 02:19:37 PM
5-1 aggregate. BAR vs UTD final. edit: Ooops 6-1 now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 04, 2011, 02:19:41 PM
nah.... Anderson scorin well look thing....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:20:31 PM
It one out of two things:


1- SAF knows something about the CL Semis that we don't know. No coach in their right mind rest all their best players in a CL semi-finals with a 2-0 lead. (Jose comes to mind again)
2- He is scared of Chelsea.

Reachinnnnnnnnnnnnnng!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
nah.... Anderson scorin well look thing....

Rell unselfish of Berba!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2011, 02:24:30 PM
team impressed me. They hold up well
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 04, 2011, 02:28:42 PM
They bring on Huntelaar for a Centre Back? Ragnick rell desperate boy! Talk bout Kamikaze football!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 04, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
nah.... Anderson scorin well look thing....

Rell unselfish of Berba!

Yeah if dat was Nani all now we stupessssin
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:30:27 PM
team impressed me. They hold up well


We could have been beaten this team by double figures if it wasn't for dey keeper in the first leg!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:34:39 PM
Who tell Anderson he fit enough tuh push and run pass man? If he get his arse in shape he will be all that he can be. Seems Nani and Valencia figured out how tuh paly together- Nani decides he will just drift tuh the right like he playing over there. Neuer have that saving with his off hand down!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
Schalke like they use up everything they had to beat up Inter...

Will be a good final. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:38:56 PM
Third final in 4 years; Chow I want my tickets tuh Brazil 2014, because we will beat Barca come May 28th!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2011, 02:39:24 PM
Just hope d final is a real final, and not a acting show from Barca like they do Real.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 02:43:27 PM
Man U and/or Barca have been in all except one of the CL finals in the last 5 years (including this one)...

Impressive. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 04, 2011, 02:47:23 PM
May the best team win fairly on the 28th. Anyone knows what time it will be showing? I have to call out from work on that day.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 04, 2011, 02:49:12 PM
Que sera sera. Whatever will be will be. We're going to Wembley. Que sera sera!

Strange feel to the game.. many reckoned it was jb done in the 1st leg and Chelsea is on everyone's mind... Anderson and a few others will definitely give Fergie food for thought for Sunday now

Great display today by United... off to our 3rd final in 4 seasons

Going to be tough , Barca are expected to win but we love nothing more than spoiling a party

Lets have it then
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 02:52:14 PM
May the best team win fairly on the 28th. Anyone knows what time it will be showing? I have to call out from work on that day.  ;D
.

Pregame starting at 2pm-I think the game will start at 2:45-3pm. Game will be on "free" tv-FOX channel same as last year's final.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 04, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
May the best team win fairly on the 28th. Anyone knows what time it will be showing? I have to call out from work on that day.  ;D
.

Pregame starting at 2pm-I think the game will start at 2:45-3pm. Game will be on "free" tv-FOX channel same as last year's final.
Is this Eastern time?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 04, 2011, 04:12:09 PM
May the best team win fairly on the 28th. Anyone knows what time it will be showing? I have to call out from work on that day.  ;D
.

Pregame starting at 2pm-I think the game will start at 2:45-3pm. Game will be on "free" tv-FOX channel same as last year's final.
Is this Eastern time?

Yes Sir! Yuh boy scored today; did you send him a tweet? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 07:23:02 PM

Going to be tough , Barca are expected to win but we love nothing more than spoiling a party


Yeah - it's good to be the underdog - less pressure - though I think there are a fair amount of people who will give Man U a good shot at winning this. 

Barca wins in a more dominating manner than Man U because of their style of play, but for all their domination Barca often doesn't always make the domination count... They often don't finish off the opposition alotta times... As much as they dominated Madrid in that last game, it was still a draw...As much as they dominated Arsenal, Arsenal was one throw away from knocking them out of the tournament down the stretch...  I think Barca is the better side but not necessarily by as much as their style of play gives the illusion.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 04, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
Look Man United supporters find they voice again. Big things ah gwan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 04, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
Man U and/or Barca have been in all except one of the CL finals in the last 5 years (including this one)...

Impressive. 

4 out of the last six...yuh forget Milan-Liverpool was after Barcelona - Arsenal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 05, 2011, 07:09:03 AM
4 out of the last six...yuh forget Milan-Liverpool was after Barcelona - Arsenal.

Good call...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 05, 2011, 07:11:12 AM

Going to be tough , Barca are expected to win but we love nothing more than spoiling a party
 

Xavi has come out and said that United are favorites...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/915435/barcelona-star-xavi-claims-manchester-united-are-favourites?cc=5901

Everybody wants to be the underdog lol

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2011, 07:24:45 AM
stueps who Xavi trying to fool?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 05, 2011, 07:26:40 AM
All Barca fans could fackaway... WE WINNING CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!

1) All yuh see Gibson actually made a good pass
2) Gibson Scored... NUFF SAID
3) Anderson actually played like he was in a serious fete match.
4) Nani pass... he PASSed... it was actually pleasing to my eyes to watch him the yesterday

With these signs T/C god must be on we side..... as meh neighbor use to say "if god be fuh yuh, messi cayr be against yuh"

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on May 05, 2011, 08:38:14 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 05, 2011, 09:04:08 AM
We keeping a watchful eye on this ManUre side.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/mundodeportivo_7501.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 05, 2011, 09:09:20 AM
We keeping a watchful eye on this ManUre side.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/mundodeportivo_7501.jpg)

Any pics of the acting and diving sessions...?  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2011, 09:13:23 AM
We watching also  8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 05, 2011, 09:28:28 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager

He's a living legend- best in the business in my lifetime so far.  

Something about longevity with one club makes it more special as well...

Guardiola can also be a candidate down the road if he sticks with Barca and continues to have success there particularly because Barca like Man U grooms a fair amount of youth talent from their academies.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 05, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager

He's a living legend- best in the business in my lifetime so far.  

Something about longevity with one club makes it more special as well...

Guardiola can also be a candidate down the road if he sticks with Barca and continues to have success there particularly because Barca like Man U grooms a fair amount of youth talent from their academies.



it would be real nice for one of our National coaches to go and train with either of them for a while. I was watching some of the Barca training videos on youtube... AMAZING....  and amazing what they are capable of...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 05, 2011, 09:45:41 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager

This year's Man U team has to be one of the most well coached in my living memory. I have to give jack he jacket, the team selections, rotation and tactics this year have been spot on. Managing through the Rooney situation, when to play Chicharito vs Berbatov, moving Giggs into the middle against certain teams, when to play Park etc, using Valencia for the late season surge all came off good at opportune times.

Ah mean to squeeze so much juice out of what is essentially to a man a bunch of average - good players with no true world class talent (Rooney/Vidic aside) is a feat in itself.

Too bad Chelsea going and snatch first place on goal difference this weekend, win out the league and then Barca going to beat them up in the final leaving them with nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 05, 2011, 09:53:43 AM
You going to choke on that goatmouth roti there palos!

You think Torres drogba lamps terry cech et al will deal wit manu on Sunday?

You and chelski choking on Sunday
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 05, 2011, 09:55:49 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager

This year's Man U team has to be one of the most well coached in my living memory. I have to give jack he jacket, the team selections, rotation and tactics this year have been spot on. Managing through the Rooney situation, when to play Chicharito vs Berbatov, moving Giggs into the middle against certain teams, when to play Park etc, using Valencia for the late season surge all came off good at opportune times.

Ah mean to squeeze so much juice out of what is essentially to a man a bunch of average - good players with no true world class talent (Rooney/Vidic aside) is a feat in itself.

Too bad Chelsea going and snatch first place on goal difference this weekend, win out the league and then Barca going to beat them up in the final leaving them with nothing to show for it.

Thank you Mrs CLEO..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 05, 2011, 10:00:15 AM

Careful! He might get his knickers in a bunch!

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 05, 2011, 10:10:31 AM
This year's Man U team has to be one of the most well coached in my living memory. I have to give jack he jacket, the team selections, rotation and tactics this year have been spot on. Managing through the Rooney situation, when to play Chicharito vs Berbatov, moving Giggs into the middle against certain teams, when to play Park etc, using Valencia for the late season surge all came off good at opportune times.

Ah mean to squeeze so much juice out of what is essentially to a man a bunch of average - good players with no true world class talent (Rooney/Vidic aside) is a feat in itself.

Too bad Chelsea going and snatch first place on goal difference this weekend, win out the league and then Barca going to beat them up in the final leaving them with nothing to show for it.

Chelsea may very well upset the table on Sunday, but knowing them this season, I eh go count on a victory against Everton at Goodison on the last day of the season...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 05, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
You going to choke on that goatmouth roti there palos!

You think Torres drogba lamps terry cech et al will deal wit manu on Sunday?

You and chelski choking on Sunday

Torres at the double on Sunday.................Fact.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 06, 2011, 05:49:54 AM
Alex Ferguson have to be given every respect as one of the greatest managers in football history. He has built several teams which have been successful, showed tactical variation and adaptation, makes good buys  and  has managed to consistently be a contender in CL.

Boss coach and Manager

He's a living legend- best in the business in my lifetime so far.  

Something about longevity with one club makes it more special as well...

Guardiola can also be a candidate down the road if he sticks with Barca and continues to have success there particularly because Barca like Man U grooms a fair amount of youth talent from their academies.

The length of his tenure will be legendary. God willing, he will make 25 years this year and to want to stay at United for so long is a statement, that in his opinion, there is no better place to be. That is a compliment to the club.

Also turning around the club's fortunes after the Djemba Djemba years when it looked like Arsenal and Chelsea had gone clear and people were calling for his head. To win 3 titles back to back and a Champions League and now to have the team this consistent in the CL is a fantastic achievement.

And nobody even mentions the fact that he was able to take Aberdeen to a European win over Madrid and to win 3 Scottish titles when nobody wins in Scotland other than Rangers and Celtic. The man is just a boss.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on May 06, 2011, 12:55:45 PM
red, white and black for 11/12

http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2011/05/06/manchester-united-201112-nike-home-kit-jersey/

(http://site.worldsoccershophosting.com/landing-page/wss-landing-manutd-2011.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 06, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
nice!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 06:59:07 AM
bump
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 09:12:57 AM
Chelsea... lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 08, 2011, 09:16:18 AM
HERNANDEZ YOU FRAKKING MEXICAN GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 09:36:22 AM
2 nil vidic
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 09:40:33 AM
Chelsea defense getting skin-out like ah Hyde Park ho... 2-0 United (Hernandez 1', Vidic 24')



Torres at the double on Sunday.................Fact.  :devil:

"double"... what dat mean, he occupying two bench seats?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 09:42:29 AM
so far only one team has shown up to play. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 09:53:04 AM
how d hell dat was not a red?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 08, 2011, 09:55:29 AM
how d hell dat was not a red?

Onn Facking Rooney for being ah lil Biatch. man United cheating players. You wining 2-0 stop the crap and play.

No yellow for diving? What a joke Howard Webb.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 08, 2011, 09:56:25 AM
Chelsea defense getting skin-out like ah Hyde Park ho... 2-0 United (Hernandez 1', Vidic 24')



Torres at the double on Sunday.................Fact.  :devil:

"double"... what dat mean, he occupying two bench seats?

1st half meh, first half.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 10:01:15 AM

Onn Facking Rooney for being ah lil Biatch. man United cheating players. You wining 2-0 stop the crap and play.

No yellow for diving? What a joke Howard Webb.

You real biased jed...lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 10:16:30 AM
how d hell dat was not a red?

Onn Facking Rooney for being ah lil Biatch. man United cheating players. You wining 2-0 stop the crap and play.

No yellow for diving? What a joke Howard Webb.

Lol, come nah man Elan... Rooney clattered into David Luiz by accident and get ah yellow, Ivanovic stud Rooney on he ankle after the ball had gone and... nutten.  I think Webb is right to give the fact that it would be a second yellow heavy consideration in not booking him... buy yuh cyah say that man being biased against Chelsea here.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 10:18:02 AM
Not suprised we are losing, Utd have looked better than us in every game we've played this season (other than 30 mins in the league match at Stamford Bridge).

Poor subs by Ancelotti at half time. Bringing on Alex for Luis is pointless, obviously due to a personal squabble rather than a tactical decision.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 10:25:09 AM
Not suprised we are losing, Utd have looked better than us in every game we've played this season (other than 30 mins in the league match at Stamford Bridge).

Poor subs by Ancelotti at half time. Bringing on Alex for Luis is pointless, obviously due to a personal squabble rather than a tactical decision.

Wha'ppen no ticket tuh dis game or wha'?  :devil:


But yeah, the bolded seems about right to me... Ancellotti was screaming at him from the bench about the Chicharito goal, and yuh could see Luiz mouthing back "Not me".  Luiz did have a couple adventurous moments in the first half though, and coming on the heels of Ancellotti's statements in the week that Luiz can be "too optimistic" at times... yuh could smell dat one coming a mile away.

----------------

Elan look Lampard now get away with ah clear handball in the box... like Webb trying tuh get back in yuh graces (and off yuh signature) or what? lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 10:34:35 AM
how d hell dat was not a red?

Onn Facking Rooney for being ah lil Biatch. man United cheating players. You wining 2-0 stop the crap and play.

No yellow for diving? What a joke Howard Webb.
???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 10:39:38 AM
Just as I was starting to think that Chelsea isn't even trying to make this interesting.....


On another note, Chicharito have real speed dread... never realized he was that quick.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 10:46:13 AM
Just as I was starting to think that Chelsea isn't even trying to make this interesting.....


On another note, Chicharito have real speed dread... never realized he was that quick.
fastest player WC 2010
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 10:52:08 AM

fastest player WC 2010

Yeah now that yuh say that, it rings a bell....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 11:04:51 AM
Man U came out the blocks too fast for Chelsea, and really should have buried this game beyond doubt on numerous occasions.  The game actually wasn't as close as the scoreline suggests...

EPL season is over....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:05:02 AM
Taxi for Chelski!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on May 08, 2011, 11:06:12 AM
Congratulations to Manchester United. Well done and well deserved.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
Well done United; I was a doubter when the season started but I an very proud of this side. It has been a great team effort all season; heart, grit, smart and winning football! Champ19ons!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
Man U came out the blocks too fast for Chelsea, and really should have buried this game beyond doubt on numerous occasions.  The game actually wasn't as close as the scoreline suggests...

EPL season is over....

Valencia is MOM fuh me... by a hair over Park.  Chicharito or Roony easily could have put this game to bed earlier.  Chelsea fought back in the second, but the scoreline really flatters them for real.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 08, 2011, 11:07:49 AM
we are the champions.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
Too bad Chelsea going and snatch first place on goal difference this weekend, win out the league

Torres at the double on Sunday.................Fact.  :devil:


:heehee:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:10:26 AM
Who Valencia sexed in the corner at the end; is it Cole who will be due in 9months?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 08, 2011, 11:11:08 AM

Valencia is MOM fuh me...


Agreed-

He's come back from injury better than he was before I think... Alot more tricky with the ball at his feet than he was before.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:11:40 AM
Too bad Chelsea going and snatch first place on goal difference this weekend, win out the league

Torres at the double on Sunday.................Fact.  :devil:


:heehee:




 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on May 08, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
brilliant stuff united.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:17:23 AM
I am happy that Berba, Valencia, Owen, Chicharito and the new guys will win a EPL medal. It is nice when players join a side to win things and the do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 11:21:48 AM

Valencia is MOM fuh me...


Agreed-

He's come back from injury better than he was before I think... Alot more tricky with the ball at his feet than he was before.  

Agreed... not that I was watching him all that closely to evaluate his dribbling pre-injury, but he seemed more power and speed than craftiness.  Now he hitting man all kinda feints and shifts, sexing man in extremely tight quarters.  Statistically I don't know how this season matches up with last season at Wigan, but his impact on United just seems so huge.  His play on right wing might be a little lost amid the Chicharito hoopla, but he served up many of those crosses on the end of which Hernandez found himself inside the box.  I liked him from his Wigan days, but he's really elevated his game this season... and still relatively young.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 08, 2011, 11:27:48 AM
Congrats Man U..

Doh understand how Chelsea could come to a game like this with no urgency and effort. Utter madness..

Watch allyuh nut next year, once Torres get the pre-season behind him and we get the 2 wingers and the creative midfielder in the off season, in the words of Aurtis Whitley "men go hadda brakes"!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 08, 2011, 11:28:46 AM
Should have hit them for 5.. maybe more If we got a clear penalty when Lampard handled and when Ivanovic should have been sent off


Elan, Dinho and all the others who support Arsenal etc... f**k off and enjoy the show... all this shit from allyuh even after we beat yall twice in CL and acting like we were definitely gonna lose today and blow the league...f**k OFF.. dont underestimate my team

I dont care how bad this looks.. I'm sick to death hearing from all these twats... f**k OFF.. until you respect the team, I dont give a damn what you think of the fans and stop underestimating and disrespecting us then you will have my respect, the minimum amount... until then once again loud and clear f**k Off

1 point and then you will get 19 more f**k offs

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2011, 11:30:23 AM
Congrats to manu on an excellent season. Hats off and classes up, people, allyuh win every game that counted and the title is well deserved in more ways than one.  I may not like the man, but one of the main things I give fergie credit for is having his teams show as much hustle and effort as they do and there is no substitute for it and hardly a tactic or strategy that can outmanoeuvre it.  My side basically showed up for a wedding today in short pants and slippers and from the very start to the very end of the game, there was never the slightest doubt  as to who wanted to win this game and who was going to win it.   Congrats.  :beermug: :beermug:  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 11:31:39 AM
Should have hit them for 5.. maybe more If we got a clear penalty when Lampard handled and when Ivanovic should have been sent off


Elan, Dinho and all the other f**kers who support Arsenal etc... f**k you and enjoy the show... all this shit from allyuh even after we beat yall twice in CL and acting like we were definitely gonna lose today and blow the league...f**k OFF.. dont underestimate my team

I dont care how bad this looks.. I'm sick to death hearing from all these twats... f**k OFF.. until you respect the team, I dont give a damn what you think of the fans and stop underestimating and disrespecting us then you will have my respect, the minimum amount... until then once again loud and clear f**k Off

1 point and then you will get 19 more f**k offs



Did you break? :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 08, 2011, 11:42:23 AM
Should have hit them for 5.. maybe more If we got a clear penalty when Lampard handled and when Ivanovic should have been sent off


Elan, Dinho and all the other f**kers who support Arsenal etc... f**k you and enjoy the show... all this shit from allyuh even after we beat yall twice in CL and acting like we were definitely gonna lose today and blow the league...f**k OFF.. dont underestimate my team

I dont care how bad this looks.. I'm sick to death hearing from all these twats... f**k OFF.. until you respect the team, I dont give a damn what you think of the fans and stop underestimating and disrespecting us then you will have my respect, the minimum amount... until then once again loud and clear f**k Off

1 point and then you will get 19 more f**k offs



Did you break? :devil:

Yea, this week I stayed quiet.. literally took a set of old talk all week from all fans, Arsenal fans want chelsea to win and rather them win it... Chelsea fans with their cockiness swearing they gonna hit us for 5 and win the league.. Liverpool fans begging in the background..I just kept on saying keep underestimating..keep it up

My team did the talking, now I'm adding the cherry on the cake..I could give a f**k.. 19 titles baby

They hate us, we love them hating us...continue to hate,  we will win trophies while yall obsess

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2011, 11:53:26 AM
They hate us, we love them hating us...continue to hate we will win trophies while yall obsess

 :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2011, 12:35:54 PM
Well done United, you beat us 4 out of 5 times this season so we can't complain. Sir Alex's finest achievement yet in my eyes - no other manager would have been able to squeeze as much out of that bunch of players as he managed this season.

This season was a war of attrition, and it will end up being the lowest winning points total in a decade, but you came good when you needed to and the best team won  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2011, 03:30:32 PM
A list of the top league title winners:

Manchester United 19
Liverpool 18
Arsenal 13
Ryan Giggs 12
Everton 9
Aston Villa 7
Sunderland 6

Giggs=legend!


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on May 08, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
Congrats to manu on an excellent season. Hats off and classes up, people, allyuh win every game that counted and the title is well deserved in more ways than one.  I may not like the man, but one of the main things I give fergie credit for is having his teams show as much hustle and effort as they do and there is no substitute for it and hardly a tactic or strategy that can outmanoeuvre it.  My side basically showed up for a wedding today in short pants and slippers and from the very start to the very end of the game, there was never the slightest doubt  as to who wanted to win this game and who was going to win it.   Congrats.  :beermug: :beermug:  
Very classy Chow.... :beermug: :beermug: :applause:

Now to get the point to wrap it up, then focus on the tall order on the 28th.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 08, 2011, 05:00:07 PM
Glory Glory :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 08, 2011, 08:08:38 PM
elan stop posting yes....  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

allyuh hide the gramaxone.

 :rotfl:

Barca next!



Glory Glory  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2011, 05:37:24 AM
Barca's Pep Guardiola hails Man Utd as 'extraordinary'

Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola called Manchester United "extraordinary" as the plaudits rained in on Sir Alex Ferguson's team after they moved within a point of a historic 19th title.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13333205.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 09, 2011, 06:04:32 AM
Well done United, you beat us 4 out of 5 times this season so we can't complain. Sir Alex's finest achievement yet in my eyes - no other manager would have been able to squeeze as much out of that bunch of players as he managed this season.

This season was a war of attrition, and it will end up being the lowest winning points total in a decade, but you came good when you needed to and the best team won  :beermug:

United hit form at the right time, just like Chelsea last year. I think the Arsenal loss and Newcastle draw
was this season's poor away from coupled with tiredness. The gamble to rest everybody against Schalke real pay off and United was able to match Chelsea because last year Chelsea profit from not having CL football past the R16. Still not a lot between these sides but these last 3 performances against Chelsea have been good. 

When the season start with Chelsea continuing from the end of last year this look like a transition season. Title or not one of the most pleasing aspects of tis season was seeing the development of Smalling, Hernandez, Nani, Fabio and Rafael. All of them men could hold they own right now and still have plenty upside.

Title still not confirmed but if they could put it to bed against Blackburn (another away game where anything could happen) they could get a rest for the CL final and give Barcelona a run.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 09, 2011, 06:46:18 AM
 :applause:

Congrats to Manchester United on a monumental 19th title

as much as i view manu as rivals i also respect the them, most of all fergies achievments

this season ppl including me have called them the worst manu team to win the league however ...

they have rode out tough games, had a rub of the green a few times and won or drew when it mattered, they may have slipped once or twice but never let the rot set in

i feel in each game the team put in man of the match performances

names to applaud this season, hernandez, giggs, rooney, valencia, park, vidic, rio and van der sar

19 titles wow

 :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 09, 2011, 08:46:10 AM
Man U is peaking at the right time, and unlike most teams who have played as many games in as many competitions as they have, they have a fully fit roster (pretty much)... Says alot about the man management of the squad....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Socafan on May 09, 2011, 09:05:50 AM
Jah know...I want Barca to rest 8...NO....12! on Manu...Yeah iz ah hater.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 09, 2011, 09:28:46 AM
Jah know...I want Barca to rest 8...NO....12! on Manu...Yeah iz ah hater.

who cares what u want?  ???


 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 09, 2011, 02:24:06 PM
So now dat yall have won de title and need to decide who is player of the year...yall been following de super injunction ting?  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 09, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
Well done United, you beat us 4 out of 5 times this season so we can't complain. Sir Alex's finest achievement yet in my eyes - no other manager would have been able to squeeze as much out of that bunch of players as he managed this season.

This season was a war of attrition, and it will end up being the lowest winning points total in a decade, but you came good when you needed to and the best team won  :beermug:

United hit form at the right time, just like Chelsea last year. I think the Arsenal loss and Newcastle draw
was this season's poor away from coupled with tiredness. The gamble to rest everybody against Schalke real pay off and United was able to match Chelsea because last year Chelsea profit from not having CL football past the R16. Still not a lot between these sides but these last 3 performances against Chelsea have been good. 

When the season start with Chelsea continuing from the end of last year this look like a transition season. Title or not one of the most pleasing aspects of tis season was seeing the development of Smalling, Hernandez, Nani, Fabio and Rafael. All of them men could hold they own right now and still have plenty upside.

Title still not confirmed but if they could put it to bed against Blackburn (another away game where anything could happen) they could get a rest for the CL final and give Barcelona a run.


Add the development of Valencia also to your list. It seems that he is more creative in his dribbles which has made him less predictable. Ashley Cole was all over the place yesterday trying to mark him. If he could just trust his left foot more and he would be almost unplayable.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 10, 2011, 12:38:59 PM
Imogen Thomas’ Premiership star confesses to wife in tearful showdown
(http://truthdive.com/2011/05/02/Imogen-Thomas-Premiership-star-confesses-to-wife-in-tearful-showdown.html)
(http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/imogen_thomas_2.jpg)

London, May 2 (ANI): The unnamed married Premiership star, who won a super-injunction against Imogen Thomas, is said to have owned up to his affair during a tearful showdown with his wife.

The player, who has been described as a “family man”, won a gagging order a fortnight ago to suppress claims he cheated in a six-month fling with the topless model.

But he revealed his secret in a tearful showdown with his wife who confronted him after becoming suspicious that he was the mystery player who the media is banned from identifying.

According to the Sunday Mirror, despite her anger, she has told friends she is not leaving the star.

“For the past two weeks the player’s wife has been wondering if it is her husband being referred to in all the newspapers as the footballer who had an affair,” the Daily Mail quoted a source as telling the paper.

“She asked him straight out if he had been cheating and he admitted he had. The infidelity has left her devastated.

“But she’s determined to try to make the marriage work and keep her family together,” the source added. (ANI)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 10, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Imogen Thomas’ Premiership star confesses to wife in tearful showdown
(http://truthdive.com/2011/05/02/Imogen-Thomas-Premiership-star-confesses-to-wife-in-tearful-showdown.html)
(http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/imogen_thomas_2.jpg)

London, May 2 (ANI): The unnamed married Premiership star, who won a super-injunction against Imogen Thomas, is said to have owned up to his affair during a tearful showdown with his wife.

The player, who has been described as a “family man”, won a gagging order a fortnight ago to suppress claims he cheated in a six-month fling with the topless model.

But he revealed his secret in a tearful showdown with his wife who confronted him after becoming suspicious that he was the mystery player who the media is banned from identifying.

According to the Sunday Mirror, despite her anger, she has told friends she is not leaving the star.

“For the past two weeks the player’s wife has been wondering if it is her husband being referred to in all the newspapers as the footballer who had an affair,” the Daily Mail quoted a source as telling the paper.

“She asked him straight out if he had been cheating and he admitted he had. The infidelity has left her devastated.

“But she’s determined to try to make the marriage work and keep her family together,” the source added. (ANI)

Okay, so I take it he is a United player or else you would not have posted it on this thread? ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 10, 2011, 01:03:40 PM
seems like to win things in the EPL yuh need ah lil scandal in yuh side

when arsenal were drunken, gambling louts ending up in jail and collecting red cards like strippers bras they won things

lol

give them boys more money see what thier little brains can come up with next
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 10, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
seems like to win things in the EPL yuh need ah lil scandal in yuh side

when arsenal were drunken, gambling louts ending up in jail and collecting red cards like strippers bras they won things

lol

give them boys more money see what thier little brains can come up with next

doh forget terry and ashley cole were involved in scandals en route to the title last season  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 10, 2011, 01:19:35 PM
seems like to win things in the EPL yuh need ah lil scandal in yuh side

when arsenal were drunken, gambling louts ending up in jail and collecting red cards like strippers bras they won things

lol

give them boys more money see what thier little brains can come up with next

yeah is that self i was thinking about when i posted that.  :beermug:

doh forget terry and ashley cole were involved in scandals en route to the title last season  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Sam on May 13, 2011, 09:07:30 AM
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: I almost became Arsenal manager
By Ryan Benson (Goal.Com).


The former Aberdeen boss wanted Walter Smith as his assistant manager at Highbury, but Scotland's preparations for the 1986 World Cup, plus the Gunners' impatience, halted talks
 
Find the best odds and bet on the Premier League. Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that he almost became the manager of Arsenal just months before joining the Red Devils.

Sir Alex was offered the Gunners' job in 1986 and was planning on taking Walter Smith with him to Highbury as his assistant.

With Scotland preparing for the up-coming World Cup in Mexico, however, the Gunners refused to allow him to take the post after the tournament had finished resulting in a breakdown in talks.

Sir Alex revealed in the matchday programme for Rangers' clash with Dundee United: “I was offered the Arsenal job and I wanted to take Walter with me.

“I thought I would sound him out when we were on Scotland duty together. We were going to play in Israel and I didn't know that Walter was going to Rangers at that time.

“I told him that I had been offered the chance to go to Arsenal and I asked him what he thought. He was positive about it, saying they were a big club and that kind of thing.

“So I said to him 'Do you fancy coming with me?' Then he dropped the bombshell that he was going to Rangers.

“The thing about the Arsenal offer was that they wanted an answer right away but I couldn't give them one because I was going to the World Cup in Mexico with Scotland.

“So the Arsenal thing fell by the wayside. Walter went to Rangers and then later that year I went to Manchester United.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 13, 2011, 09:31:14 AM
^^ De-ja-vous







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIjPwzL_5Yk
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 13, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
I ent no Man U or Fergie fan but this is getting ridiculous! Come nah man!

FA charges Manchester United's Sir Alex Ferguson with improper conduct

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/13/fa-charge-sir-alex-ferguson

Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with improper conduct by the Football Association for comments made about the referee Howard Webb in the buildup to the Premier League game with Chelsea at Old Trafford on 8 May.

Although the comments themselves were innocuous, including a statement that he believed Webb to be the "best man for the job", they contravened FA Rule E3.

Ferguson had said: "We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that. But (getting a bad decision) is definitely our big fear.

"We have the players to do it all right. We just hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."

The problem for the Manchester United manager is that they were delivered on 6 May, two days prior to the game. That contravenes the rule which now states no manager should speak about a referee in advance of the match being played.

As the United manager has just served a five-match touchline ban following comments made about Martin Atkinson in the wake of his side's Premier League defeat to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on 1 March, there is some concern at Old Trafford about the likely punishment.

However, in this instance, it does appear unlikely a suspension will be imposed. Ferguson has until 4pm on 16 May to respond.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 13, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
I ent no Man U or Fergie fan but this is getting ridiculous! Come nah man!

FA charges Manchester United's Sir Alex Ferguson with improper conduct

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/13/fa-charge-sir-alex-ferguson

Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with improper conduct by the Football Association for comments made about the referee Howard Webb in the buildup to the Premier League game with Chelsea at Old Trafford on 8 May.

Although the comments themselves were innocuous, including a statement that he believed Webb to be the "best man for the job", they contravened FA Rule E3.

Ferguson had said: "We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that. But (getting a bad decision) is definitely our big fear.

"We have the players to do it all right. We just hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."

The problem for the Manchester United manager is that they were delivered on 6 May, two days prior to the game. That contravenes the rule which now states no manager should speak about a referee in advance of the match being played.

As the United manager has just served a five-match touchline ban following comments made about Martin Atkinson in the wake of his side's Premier League defeat to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on 1 March, there is some concern at Old Trafford about the likely punishment.

However, in this instance, it does appear unlikely a suspension will be imposed. Ferguson has until 4pm on 16 May to respond.


Ah eh no Man U or Fergie fan either, but the FA really carrying the joke too far now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 13, 2011, 01:04:04 PM
All de man say is..."He's the best ref in the country....sometimes you get without enough experience to handle the match but he's the best there is for something like this."  (well words to that effect.)


And dahs a charge?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 13, 2011, 04:43:50 PM
All dem Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City men in the FA trying to break Fergie down or run him off so they side might have a chance tuh sniff something.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 13, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Knob end please the FA is manu outside chiles
All dem Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City men in the FA trying to break Fergie down or run him off so they side might have a chance tuh sniff something.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on May 14, 2011, 02:50:07 AM
“Howard Webb is a fantastic referee, he has the skills to handle the occasion, If the referee has no experience maybe you can be a little worried about this but with Webb there is no problem.”

daiz ancelotti before the game eh....and no charge but he "talking bout de ref"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 14, 2011, 07:38:11 AM
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: 19  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 14, 2011, 07:47:45 AM
Valencia is not a hugger of men; so funny watching him celebrate  :)Next week should be sweet with trophy presentation! Chap19ons! David May doesnot hide his United bias boy! 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 14, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
CHAMPIONES CHAMPIONES OLE OLE OLE OLEEEE, CHAMPIONES CHAMPIONES OLE OLE OLEEEE

 ;D ;D ;D ;D  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 14, 2011, 07:51:43 AM
TAKE ME HOME UNITED ROAD TO THE PLACE I BELONG TO OLD TRAFFORD TO SEE UNITED TAKE ME HOME UNITED ROAD! TAKE ME HOME UNITED ROAD TO THE PLACE I BELONG TO OLD TRAFFORD TO SEE UNITED TAKE ME HOME UNITED ROAD!!!!!! UNITED!! UNITED!! UNITED!!! UNITED!!! UNITED!!!! UNITED!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 14, 2011, 08:15:10 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall did good to win with a less than ideal squad though.
It's strange that the other big boys could not capitalize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 14, 2011, 08:33:19 AM
Ah stopping by to drop off a case of water down samba beer Lite that sit down in the hot sun whole morning collecting dust for the Man U men in here..

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

And a hot expired Malta or Supligen for Small Mag because no way he could be old enough to drink beer.   :devil:

Congrats to allyuh shit side fellahs. Next year go be sticky.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 14, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall did good to win with a less than ideal squad though.
It's strange that the other big boys could not capitalize.

Not strange the season is a marathon; over the season United proved to have the better squad which allowed Fergie to mix it up despite some of our shortcomings in midfield. Plus players like Berba, Hernandez,Giggsy, Nani, Evra, Vida, Van Der Sar, Smalling were very consistent performers during the season which helped the stability of the squad when squad players were used. Fergie also knows best! Chelski had a small squad which led to their starting 11 getting worn out over the long haul and they fell off halfway and catch a second wind but could not catch up.  Arsenal has talent, but collectively they lacked the mental strength, defensive stability and leadership depite their talent plus they found it difficult to overcome injuries to key players, which United were able to do. Liverpool started the season stale and had to make changes to freshen up. Spurs are one demensional in their play, poor defensively and Arry's cheerleading can only go so far.  
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 14, 2011, 11:31:08 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall did good to win with a less than ideal squad though.
It's strange that the other big boys could not capitalize.

Not strange the season is a marathon; over the season United proved to have the better squad which allowed Fergie to mix it up despite some of our shortcomings in midfield. Plus players like Berba, Hernandez,Giggsy, Nani, Evra, Vida, Van Der Sar, Smalling were very consistent performers during the season which helped the stability of the squad when squad players were used. Fergie also knows best! Chelski had a small squad which led to their starting 11 getting worn out over the long haul and they fell off halfway and catch a second wind but could not catch up.  Arsenal has talent, but collectively they lacked the mental strength, defensive stability and leadership depite their talent plus they found it difficult to overcome injuries to key players, which United were able to do. Liverpool started the season stale and had to make changes to freshen up. Spurs are one demensional in their play, poor defensively and Arry's cheerleading can only go so far.  

Chelsea's failure was because they lost form, not because of the size of their squad.
This season's winning points total will be the lowest in 10 years.
It's REALLY strange that all the top teams had such poor form in the same season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on May 14, 2011, 11:41:06 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall did good to win with a less than ideal squad though.
It's strange that the other big boys could not capitalize.

Not strange the season is a marathon; over the season United proved to have the better squad which allowed Fergie to mix it up despite some of our shortcomings in midfield. Plus players like Berba, Hernandez,Giggsy, Nani, Evra, Vida, Van Der Sar, Smalling were very consistent performers during the season which helped the stability of the squad when squad players were used. Fergie also knows best! Chelski had a small squad which led to their starting 11 getting worn out over the long haul and they fell off halfway and catch a second wind but could not catch up.  Arsenal has talent, but collectively they lacked the mental strength, defensive stability and leadership depite their talent plus they found it difficult to overcome injuries to key players, which United were able to do. Liverpool started the season stale and had to make changes to freshen up. Spurs are one demensional in their play, poor defensively and Arry's cheerleading can only go so far.  

Chelsea's failure was because they lost form, not because of the size of their squad.
This season's winning points total will be the lowest in 10 years.
It's REALLY strange that all the top teams had such poor form in the same season.

year after WC might be a possible explanation for this
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 14, 2011, 03:05:04 PM
Congrats to Manchester United
To Sir Alex Ferguson
To their players
And all the staff involved

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 14, 2011, 09:21:28 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall did good to win with a less than ideal squad though.
It's strange that the other big boys could not capitalize.

Not strange the season is a marathon; over the season United proved to have the better squad which allowed Fergie to mix it up despite some of our shortcomings in midfield. Plus players like Berba, Hernandez,Giggsy, Nani, Evra, Vida, Van Der Sar, Smalling were very consistent performers during the season which helped the stability of the squad when squad players were used. Fergie also knows best! Chelski had a small squad which led to their starting 11 getting worn out over the long haul and they fell off halfway and catch a second wind but could not catch up.  Arsenal has talent, but collectively they lacked the mental strength, defensive stability and leadership depite their talent plus they found it difficult to overcome injuries to key players, which United were able to do. Liverpool started the season stale and had to make changes to freshen up. Spurs are one demensional in their play, poor defensively and Arry's cheerleading can only go so far.  

Chelsea's failure was because they lost form, not because of the size of their squad.
This season's winning points total will be the lowest in 10 years.
It's REALLY strange that all the top teams had such poor form in the same season.

So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 14, 2011, 11:08:52 PM
So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 15, 2011, 01:37:37 AM
So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

when we started losing (i.e vs Sunderland), we were missing Terry, Lampard, Alex and Essien. Drogba was playing with malaria. We had 5 reserve team players on the bench that day, with Kalou and Turnbull being the only 'experience' on the bench.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2011, 11:34:59 AM
So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

They only registered 19 players who were 21 years and older.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 15, 2011, 12:52:13 PM
So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

They only registered 19 players who were 21 years and older.


:rotfl: :rotfl: Enjoy yuh friggin' self!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2011, 01:04:17 PM
So you don't think lost of form could be d ;Due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

They only registered 19 players who were 21 years and older.


:rotfl: :rotfl: Enjoy yuh friggin' self!

But how yuh mean; you not enjoyin yuh self? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 15, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
So you don't think lost of form could be d ;Due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

They only registered 19 players who were 21 years and older.


:rotfl: :rotfl: Enjoy yuh friggin' self!

But how yuh mean; you not enjoyin yuh self? ;D

ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 15, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 16, 2011, 04:11:04 AM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:

i guess when u support a side like chelsea, u must have 3 or 4 back up plans.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 16, 2011, 05:53:26 AM
Add the development of Valencia also to your list. It seems that he is more creative in his dribbles which has made him less predictable. Ashley Cole was all over the place yesterday trying to mark him. If he could just trust his left foot more and he would be almost unplayable.

I would say Valencia prove himself last year. The difference with his late season cameo is that he is just fresher than everybody else and seems incredibly determined. He moving like a man on a mission.


Valencia is not a hugger of men; so funny watching him celebrate  :)Next week should be sweet with trophy presentation! Chap19ons! David May doesnot hide his United bias boy! 

Agreed. He look real stiff at first but he loosen up by the end.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 16, 2011, 06:09:41 AM
Chelsea's failure was because they lost form, not because of the size of their squad.
This season's winning points total will be the lowest in 10 years.
It's REALLY strange that all the top teams had such poor form in the same season.

United were just the most consistent this year on the back of their home record. Picking up 4 points every two games meant that even though they fell behind Chelsea in the earlies they were able to pick up when Chelsea went through their 11 game slump. 5 away wins is a ridiculously low total though but they pick up two of those wins at the right time after the Wolves, Chelsea, 'Pool series. Worthy Champions


So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

when we started losing (i.e vs Sunderland), we were missing Terry, Lampard, Alex and Essien. Drogba was playing with malaria. We had 5 reserve team players on the bench that day, with Kalou and Turnbull being the only 'experience' on the bench.

Chelsea squad was small but they miss a trick. the plan was to play Bruma, McEachrane, Sturridge this year but as soon as things look iffy they puss out. Now they miss out on the title and they still don't know what the players could do. At least they start blooding Luiz. I know allyuh rating the man because he nice to watch but he is not ready yet defensively. I remember Tim Vickery (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2011/03/is_luiz_the_new_lucio.html) was saying that about him after the Brazil-France game.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2011, 06:30:45 AM
Chelsea's failure was because they lost form, not because of the size of their squad.
This season's winning points total will be the lowest in 10 years.
It's REALLY strange that all the top teams had such poor form in the same season.

United were just the most consistent this year on the back of their home record. Picking up 4 points every two games meant that even though they fell behind Chelsea in the earlies they were able to pick up when Chelsea went through their 11 game slump. 5 away wins is a ridiculously low total though but they pick up two of those wins at the right time after the Wolves, Chelsea, 'Pool series. Worthy Champions


So you don't think lost of form could be due to physically and mentally tired because they have been over worked? Overworked because the manager keeps running out the same players to compete in the epl, cl, fa cup, and carling cup? Just my opinion/2cents.

Alright, so how small was Chelsea's squad then?

when we started losing (i.e vs Sunderland), we were missing Terry, Lampard, Alex and Essien. Drogba was playing with malaria. We had 5 reserve team players on the bench that day, with Kalou and Turnbull being the only 'experience' on the bench.

Chelsea squad was small but they miss a trick. the plan was to play Bruma, McEachrane, Sturridge this year but as soon as things look iffy they puss out. Now they miss out on the title and they still don't know what the players could do. At least they start blooding Luiz. I know allyuh rating the man because he nice to watch but he is not ready yet defensively. I remember Tim Vickery (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2011/03/is_luiz_the_new_lucio.html) was saying that about him after the Brazil-France game.



I watched an interview with a reported who covered his previous side before he was transferred, and he reported that he felt that the EPL would be a big step up for Luis, and questioned whether he was ready to take that step. I think he still needs to learn how to pick his spots, he is a little to gung ho and thinks he can intercept every ball which sometimes leads to him being out of position or fouling the opposition.  I think Terry is a good footballer to learn from as it pertains to reading plays and picking your spots. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 16, 2011, 08:32:42 AM
Balls of steel...

Manchester United fans unveil '19 times' banner at Anfield

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/16/manchester-united-19-times-banner-anfield


• Red Issue fanzine organises stunt before Liverpool v Spurs
• Getaway car was waiting outside the ground


Manchester United fans attempting to ensure maximum enjoyment is wrung out of the club's record-breaking 19th title took their cause to Anfield on Sunday, unveiling a banner inside the ground before the Reds' game against Spurs.

United clinched their landmark 19th title on Saturday, finally eclipsing Liverpool's total of 18, and the club's supporters went to great lengths to ensure those at Anfield were fully aware of that fact.

As Liverpool fans began their customary chorus of You'll Never Walk Alone, United fans, organised by the Red Issue fanzine, unveiled a banner emblazoned with the words "MUFC 19 TIMES" in the Anfield Road End of the ground.

Those responsible had a getaway car waiting outside the ground, plus fellow conspirators in the adjoining stand in order to get photographic evidence.

The banner-baiting between the clubs has a long history, with Liverpool fans' now famous "Come Back When You Have Won 18" banner kicking things off in 1994. United fans responded to that after clinching their 18th title in 2008-09 and have now added another chapter to the ongoing rivalry.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 16, 2011, 08:43:28 AM
 :devil:

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2011/5/16/1305542576542/Manchester-United-fans-007.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:

i guess when u support a side like chelsea, u must have 3 or 4 back up plans.


   I am a FOOTBALL supporter, Hoss, not just Chelsea.  Chelsea just happens to be ONE of the teams I love and manu happens to be THE MAIN team that I dislike and do not support along with liverpool, arsenal, juventus, boca juniors and cristiano ronaldo, so I have way more than 3 or 4 back up plans.  ;D . I from Trinidad so I have no personal or geographic ties to any other team around the world that precludes me from likin' anybody else.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2011, 09:58:28 AM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:

I eh 'fraid shit and I eh have to save a penny!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 16, 2011, 11:58:20 AM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:

I eh 'fraid shit and I eh have to save a penny!  ;D

Alright, then make sure the credit card have funds on it because I am going to Brasil on your dime! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 16, 2011, 12:12:51 PM
ah go enjoy meh self on de 28th when Barca pull out de bull pistle :whip: on allyuh ass!

 :shameonyou:




Doh worry, he just afraid he will have tuh pay for my ticket to Brazil if United win. Yuh better start saving now Chow! :devil:

I eh 'fraid shit and I eh have to save a penny!  ;D

Alright, then make sure the credit card have funds on it because I am going to Brasil on your dime! ;D

Dize arright...aside from yuh sick, demented manu afliction I know yuh is good peeps, so if ah loss dah bet it would still be money well spent.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 16, 2011, 12:23:25 PM
Chelsea squad was small but they miss a trick. the plan was to play Bruma, McEachrane, Sturridge this year but as soon as things look iffy they puss out. Now they miss out on the title and they still don't know what the players could do. At least they start blooding Luiz. I know allyuh rating the man because he nice to watch but he is not ready yet defensively. I remember Tim Vickery (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2011/03/is_luiz_the_new_lucio.html) was saying that about him after the Brazil-France game.

I disagree. Chelsea's squad was actually the smallest in the premiership this season, even after counting all the youth players. Those youth players were being introduced to the first team under very difficult circumstances (Sturridge probably being the exception) and I think the right decision was taken post xmas to loan out most of them. Everyone who went out on loan got decent playing time at a relatively high level, far more than they could expect to get at Chelsea and without the spotlight being on them. Most of the young players who make it at Man U have done the same. McEachran is the only one who wasnt loaned out, mainly because he was a bit younger, was a key member of the (title-winning) reserve team and had a genuine role in the first team. Chelsea now have a very good idea of what all the loanees are capable of next season.

I agree that Luis is not quite ready defensively, but he is easily in the top 10 CBs in the Prem already and will definitely improve.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 16, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
Ravel Morrison in trouble again   >:( ...

Manchester United's Ravel Morrison faces assault charge

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/06/manchester-united-ravel-morrison-charge

Manchester United are reeling from the news that their most highly regarded youth-team player, Ravel Morrison, is facing the possibility of a prison sentence that threatens to wreck his career.

Morrison, tipped to be one of the pre-eminent English footballers of his generation, appeared at Salford magistrates' court on Wednesday charged with assaulting his girlfriend and causing criminal damage. The 18-year-old is already the subject of a 12-month referral order after appearing at Trafford youth court, then aged 17, in January on a separate matter.

The latest incident allegedly took place on 19 April, the day before Morrison helped United beat Chelsea to reach the FA Youth Cup final. Morrison was given conditional bail and the case was adjourned until 25 May, when he will enter a plea.

Morrison has represented England at every level from the Under-16s to Under-19s and has been described at Old Trafford as the most naturally talented footballer to come through the ranks since Paul Scholes. An attacking, two-footed player, he turned professional on his 17th birthday and made his first-team debut as a substitute in the Carling Cup tie against Wolverhampton Wanderers in October.

United are aware of the court case and have declined to comment. Morrison, described on the club's website as a "supremely gifted talent", was in the squad that travelled to Liverpool on Thursday for a reserve match. The club have dismissed rumours that he has been suspended, or is not training, and the teenager is still in contention to play in the youth cup final against Sheffield United. The first leg is at Bramall Lane on 17 May followed by the return fixture at Old Trafford on 23 May.

Morrison's court date is two days later and United face the possibility of losing one of the more prodigiously talented young players on their books.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on May 17, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
I find this real disrespectful....but at the same time shows how serious fans take things.



Source BBC SPORT (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13424873.stm)


Old Trafford banner taken down after Man City triumph

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52788000/jpg/_52788977_banner.jpg)

Manchester United banner The banner was a long-running wind-up by United fans

Manchester United fans have removed the banner at Old Trafford that showed the number of years since rivals Manchester City last won a trophy.

Manchester City secured their first trophy since 1976 on Saturday when they defeated Stoke in the FA Cup final.

Some Reds fans wanted the banner to mark the last time City won the league.

Andrew Kilduff of supporters' group Stretford End Flags told the Manchester Evening News: "A new version will be up for the Blackpool game on Sunday."

Manchester City's players celebrated the FA Cup triumph at Wembley at the weekend by walking around the pitch on their lap of honour with a banner of their own that read "00 Years".

The mocking banner at the Stretford End of Old Trafford was a long-running wind-up by the United fans, who have just celebrated their fourth league title in five years.

City manager Roberto Mancini was fully aware of the banner's significance when in January 2010, only a few weeks into the job after taking over from Mark Hughes, the Italian vowed to "take that banner down".



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
I wonder if the new version will have Arsenal's name on it? :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 17, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
I wonder if the new version will have Arsenal's name on it? :devil:

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 17, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
Imogen Thomas admits she's been "tempted" to reveal married footballer's name
(http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/05/17/imogen-thomas-admits-she-s-been-tempted-to-reveal-married-footballer-s-name-115875-23136740/)
Big Brother beauty Imogen Thomas today admitted that she has been tempted to reveal the name of the married Premier League footballer she had an affair with.

The tearful 28-year-old says she is “hated” by the public and is so upset by the backlash that she has considered outing the star.

Her comments come 24 hours after she was accused of blackmailing the top footballer for £100,000 over their affair.

The allegation came as a High Court judge explained why he had extended the original injunction barring the Premier League star from being named.

Naming the footballer could land the ex-reality star in jail.

In an interview on This Morning, host Phillip Schofield asked Imogen: "Are you tempted just to say his name out loud?"

Imogen replied: "You know I'm so upset by what I've been called, I've been so tempted just to say 'yeah, it is that person' because why should I be taking all this flack and him get away with everything basically.

“His life is as normal... I don't know what he's going through at home, none of us know."

Talking about the reaction she has received from the public, Imogen added: "Well I haven't really been out yet but I'm absolutely hated.

“I've had lots of football fans telling me to die on Twitter. And yes, I can close my Twitter account down but why should I be doing that as well.

“I try not to read the stuff I mean I will not read the newspapers from now on - it's just too upsetting. My mum is in bits over this.”

Following yesterday’s High Court judgement, Imogen stormed: “Yet again, my name and my reputation are being trashed while the man I had a relationship with is able to hide. Where’s the fairness in this? What about my reputation?”

She added: “If this is the way privacy injunctions are supposed to work, then there’s something seriously wrong with the law.”

High Court judge Mr Justice Eady said there was evidence to suggest the model made a number of demands in a showdown with the player at a hotel in April, four months after their fling ended.

The judgement said how the star refused to part with the money, but gave her a signed football shirt and match day tickets instead.

The revelations emerged as the judge revealed the reasons why he had granted the injunction last month.

Glamour model Imogen claimed the relationship lasted six months, but the footballer insists they only met three times.

Justice Eady explained in the judgement that the court had to consider the player’s privacy rights under European law.

He said after hotel meetings this year with Ms Thomas, the footballer started to “smell a rat”.

Various text messages from her led him to believe she was thinking of selling her story.

“She told him she wanted, or ‘needed’, a payment from him of £55,000,” said the judge.

He added that after a couple of other reluctant meetings the player began to suspect he was being

“set up” so photographs could be taken.

On April 12, the judge said, the footballer told her he wanted nothing more to do with her.

Justice Eady said: “By this time, however, she made it clear that she was looking for £110,000.”

He added: “The evidence appeared to strongly suggest that the footballer was being blackmailed, although that is not how he put it himself.”

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 01:09:59 PM
Could you imagine if it was Neville, Scholes or Giggsy!? Long shots being Michael Owen or Berbatov! ;D It could also be Rio but he has a reputation of being a "player" so that would be a surprise or fit with the so call 'clean cut/family man image.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 17, 2011, 01:38:11 PM
That whore better wait until after the CL Final to bust Giggsy..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2011, 02:02:32 PM
I wonder if the new version will have Arsenal's name on it? :devil:

HAHA  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 17, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
want to see gigs shave he chest like rooney, if they have ah razor tough enough fuh that chest bush :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 02:44:43 PM
want to see gigs shave he chest like rooney, if they have ah razor tough enough fuh that chest bush :rotfl:

Actually Gunner these fellas using wax now, so I doubt Giggsy still have a forest to cut tru.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 17, 2011, 02:54:54 PM
want to see gigs shave he chest like rooney, if they have ah razor tough enough fuh that chest bush :rotfl:

Actually Gunner these fellas using wax now, so I doubt Giggsy still have a forest to cut tru.

so like in 40 year ol dvirgin will giggsy bawl out "OH IMMOGEN THOMAS!!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 05:06:45 PM
Maarten Stekelenburg

http://youtu.be/aHkTw_pj4H0


David De Gea

http://youtu.be/S9GojWpLpq0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
Top 50 Great Goalie saves.


http://youtu.be/USAtvsAktl8
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2011, 05:57:46 PM
Top 50 Great Goalie saves.


http://youtu.be/USAtvsAktl8

min 2:40 was beast , he had to move across a long way , then he actually caught it and brought it down. Good technique
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 17, 2011, 06:42:12 PM
Top 50 Great Goalie saves.


http://youtu.be/USAtvsAktl8

min 2:40 was beast , he had to move across a long way , then he actually caught it and brought it down. Good technique

Real Italian keepers in that vid.  Buffon, Peruzzi, Pagliuca, Toldo, Balotta, Cudicini.  In the last 15 years or so they have been blessed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 17, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
Forgot how good Oliver Khan was!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on May 18, 2011, 04:09:03 AM
wait, the last save in the clip, was that the Gordon Banks save off of Pele?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2011, 06:18:39 AM
wait, the last save in the clip, was that the Gordon Banks save off of Pele?


Yes! Sweet eh!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on May 18, 2011, 09:37:45 AM
Exceptional! No good teams without a great goalkeeper.
Brazil 1970 exception  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2011, 06:27:05 PM
Hernandez wins United fan player of the year award while Nani won the players' player award of the year. Happy for Nani that his teamates recognized his contributions to the team. It would have been nice if may be he could have won it with Berba, because I think Nani and Berbatov carried that team when Roonay was in his own little head space!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 19, 2011, 06:55:13 PM
Paul Scholes ponders another year at United but prepares to exit left

Manchester United's 36-year-old looks to be heading for his final home game for the club, against Blackpool on Sunday


For now, all that can be said for certain is that there will be no great fanfare. If it is true, and Paul Scholes really is to confirm the growing suspicion that he is leaving football, we all know he would rather slip away quietly. A few short lines on Manchester United's website, perhaps. Maybe a brief appearance on MUTV – the usual stuff about it being a privilege to play for the club, wishing everyone well, thanking Sir Alex Ferguson and the supporters. What we should not expect is for Sky's cameras to be invited into his living room at Saddleworth. Or a staged sit-down on the back lawn with the three little redheads – Arron, Alicia and Aiden – playing in the background.

This is one of the things the game's true lovers admire about Scholes: he thinks all that side of football is, well, bullshit. He will not be looking for a newspaper deal to make a few quid. We can forget about him popping up in the television studio every Saturday afternoon with Jeff and Phil and the others. Heck, he does not even have an agent.

Strangely enough, Scholes has always held that old-fashioned view that footballers should be judged on their touch, their passing, and their desire to want the ball when the heat of the battle is close to intolerable. Not the car they drive down Deansgate. Or the VIP passes that are pressed into their hands. Or their number of Twitter followers. Scholes's routine was always refreshingly old-school: "Train in the morning, pick up my children from school, play with them, have tea, put them to bed and then watch a bit of TV."

But this is now the time when Scholes, that rare treasure, has to contemplate whether it might be time to go, and that it is always better for a personally choreographed exit rather than someone else pointing it out. Gary Neville, three months younger, has already taken that jump and now it is Scholes's turn to decide whether to cut himself free before there is even the slightest possibility that he can place at risk one of football's great reputations.

Scholes will be 37 three months into the new season. His testimonial is pencilled in for the first week of August. The following month, Paul Scholes: My Story hits the bookshops. Hearing he has written a book feels strangely out of keeping with the rest of Scholes's life until further investigation reveals it will be dominated with photographs rather than his words. Naturally.

A testimonial, then a book ... these feel like telling clues. In previous seasons Scholes has always signed a new contract by April at the latest. It is now the third week of May and he has still not announced his decision. The club now do not expect one until June and, increasingly, there is the sense at Old Trafford that this could really be it. If Scholes plays against Blackpool on Sunday, his 675th appearance for the club could very well be his last in a competitive fixture at Old Trafford.

What a player the sport would be losing. What a footballer. Scholes in his pomp gave the impression he could land the ball in a bucket from 60 yards. Scholes made sure games were played at his tempo. Those passes could instantly change the direction of a match. He was someone who made football look mesmeric. More than that, he reminded us a pass can be every bit as beautiful as, say, a 25-yard shot into the top corner. But there were plenty of those, too. Scholes always had a ferocious shot and an eye for the spectacular, with 150 goals for the club.

Zinedine Zidane has talked of him being "undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation". Xavi Hernández has said the same. Thierry Henry, too. Marcello Lippi, a World Cup-winning manager, was asked about Scholes once and replied: "He would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that's how highly I rate him."

Then there are the people who have seen him close up. Rio Ferdinand says: "He'll do ridiculous things in training like say: 'You see that tree over there?' – it'll be 40 yards away – 'I'm going to hit it.' And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."

There is no argument, either, from Sir Bobby Charlton, a man with nearly 60 years in the game. "Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped then lost with my youth in Munich. Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite."

In total, Scholes has won 10 league titles, one European Cup, three FA Cups and two League Cups as well as 66 England caps, although it should have been well over 100.

He finished with international football seven years ago, at the age of 29, fed up of being squeezed out of the area of the team where he could properly spread his feathers. Every England manager since has tried, and failed, to talk him back. In hindsight, they probably should have tried hypnotising him.

His problem these days is that the legs can fail him. The vision is still there, the uncommon ability to pick out a pass, long or short, to understand the angles of a football pitch, always to want the ball and, unfailingly, to know the best thing to do with it – a man, to borrow that elegant line from Patrick Barclay, who plays with "a hundred years of football in his blood".

But Scholes has always been captive to his craft. He has his bad matches, when his touch deserts him, and there is a look of something close to self-revulsion on his face. Which is part of the issue. He wants to be seen – or to see himself – as someone who can still make an impact, and not just when passes are going astray and Ferguson introduces him to re-establish some form of control. Scholes has found it difficult drifting to the edges, playing the odd 20 minutes here and there, decorating matches rather than dominating them.

He has already stayed on longer than he anticipated. In 2008 Scholes talked openly of having "two years left at the most". Ferguson, however, thinks the midfielder can last one more season. United's manager is a man of great persuasive powers and Scholes will know him well enough to realise he is not saying it for the sake of sentimentality.

Equally, though, the sporting world is full of heroic figures who have blundered badly when deciding the time to retire. As Sugar Ray Robinson once said: "You always say, 'I'll quit when I slide.' Then, one morning, you wake up and you've slid." Neville could tell his old mate the same. Whatever happens next, there is one certainty: it will be the hardest question Scholes has had to ask himself in his professional life.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/may/19/paul-scholes-manchester-united-possible-retirement


Sad but I think he will end his career this season... what a Legend.. the best midfielder the prem has ever seen and definitely in the top 5 Central Midfielders over the last 2 decades ... Irreplaceable

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Post by: Bakes on May 19, 2011, 10:54:43 PM
Sad but I think he will end his career this season... what a Legend.. the best midfielder the prem has ever seen and definitely in the top 5 Central Midfielders over the last 2 decades ... Irreplaceable



Agreed... that article is high praise, but hard to say it's not deserved.  Always was one of my favorite players in the EPL... was sad the past several years seeing him lose a step, which added to his penchant for poor decision making at times resulted in so many yellows.  But the passing... class  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 20, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Sad but I think he will end his career this season... what a Legend.. the best midfielder the prem has ever seen and definitely in the top 5 Central Midfielders over the last 2 decades ... Irreplaceable

Technique technique technique... The guy was like a text book on how to strike the ball.  Range, variability, accuracy... Really a gem of a player.

He was the english version of Xavi in many ways...take away some of the tricks and guile, then add a rocket of a shot.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 20, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
 :notworthy: min 3:16 . But the Greatest and most important for me is against Barcelona. EDIT: Alyuh see that last goal on the clip,  :o 

http://www.youtube.com/v/rx_oM60tkv0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 20, 2011, 12:35:52 PM
Yeh Scholes knows how to hit it cleanly.
Only BULLET. 
And I think it's great when a player stays at a club for their entire careers.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2011, 08:56:11 AM
:notworthy: min 3:16 . But the Greatest and most important for me is against Barcelona. EDIT: Alyuh see that last goal on the clip,  :o 

http://www.youtube.com/v/rx_oM60tkv0



Love yuh Scholesy!  :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
I love his goal scoring but for me it is his passing and touches that makes him world class and special. He can make any pass with either foot!

http://youtu.be/69gwR8CcTL0


Started off as a number 10 and later moved to midfield. That guy just knows how to find the V!

http://youtu.be/UKFuBWky3xU
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 21, 2011, 10:10:21 AM
the passing on the second video is breath taking . edit : i know the barca men still hurting from that bullet  :devil:

another thing you all see how that man does strike a ball , lawd , real clean.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2011, 07:37:26 PM
Imogen Thomas admits she's been "tempted" to reveal married footballer's name
(http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/05/17/imogen-thomas-admits-she-s-been-tempted-to-reveal-married-footballer-s-name-115875-23136740/)
Big Brother beauty Imogen Thomas today admitted that she has been tempted to reveal the name of the married Premier League footballer she had an affair with.

The tearful 28-year-old says she is “hated” by the public and is so upset by the backlash that she has considered outing the star.

Her comments come 24 hours after she was accused of blackmailing the top footballer for £100,000 over their affair.

The allegation came as a High Court judge explained why he had extended the original injunction barring the Premier League star from being named.

Naming the footballer could land the ex-reality star in jail.

In an interview on This Morning, host Phillip Schofield asked Imogen: "Are you tempted just to say his name out loud?"

Imogen replied: "You know I'm so upset by what I've been called, I've been so tempted just to say 'yeah, it is that person' because why should I be taking all this flack and him get away with everything basically.

“His life is as normal... I don't know what he's going through at home, none of us know."

Talking about the reaction she has received from the public, Imogen added: "Well I haven't really been out yet but I'm absolutely hated.

“I've had lots of football fans telling me to die on Twitter. And yes, I can close my Twitter account down but why should I be doing that as well.

“I try not to read the stuff I mean I will not read the newspapers from now on - it's just too upsetting. My mum is in bits over this.”

Following yesterday’s High Court judgement, Imogen stormed: “Yet again, my name and my reputation are being trashed while the man I had a relationship with is able to hide. Where’s the fairness in this? What about my reputation?”

She added: “If this is the way privacy injunctions are supposed to work, then there’s something seriously wrong with the law.”

High Court judge Mr Justice Eady said there was evidence to suggest the model made a number of demands in a showdown with the player at a hotel in April, four months after their fling ended.

The judgement said how the star refused to part with the money, but gave her a signed football shirt and match day tickets instead.

The revelations emerged as the judge revealed the reasons why he had granted the injunction last month.

Glamour model Imogen claimed the relationship lasted six months, but the footballer insists they only met three times.

Justice Eady explained in the judgement that the court had to consider the player’s privacy rights under European law.

He said after hotel meetings this year with Ms Thomas, the footballer started to “smell a rat”.

Various text messages from her led him to believe she was thinking of selling her story.

“She told him she wanted, or ‘needed’, a payment from him of £55,000,” said the judge.

He added that after a couple of other reluctant meetings the player began to suspect he was being

“set up” so photographs could be taken.

On April 12, the judge said, the footballer told her he wanted nothing more to do with her.

Justice Eady said: “By this time, however, she made it clear that she was looking for £110,000.”

He added: “The evidence appeared to strongly suggest that the footballer was being blackmailed, although that is not how he put it himself.”




So Forbes magzine has an article on their website, and named him. Let's just say he wears number 11.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 21, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
the passing on the second video is breath taking . edit : i know the barca men still hurting from that bullet  :devil:

another thing you all see how that man does strike a ball , lawd , real clean.

Nah, too busy celebratin de two champion league titles won since den  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 21, 2011, 08:12:57 PM
the passing on the second video is breath taking . edit : i know the barca men still hurting from that bullet  :devil:

another thing you all see how that man does strike a ball , lawd , real clean.

Nah, too busy celebratin de two champion league titles won since den  :devil:

You only won in 2009. Hope you not counting 2011.  :shameonyou:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 21, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
the passing on the second video is breath taking . edit : i know the barca men still hurting from that bullet  :devil:

another thing you all see how that man does strike a ball , lawd , real clean.

Nah, too busy celebratin de two champion league titles won since den  :devil:

i need a middle finger emoticon  :waiting:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 22, 2011, 08:07:59 AM
the passing on the second video is breath taking . edit : i know the barca men still hurting from that bullet  :devil:

another thing you all see how that man does strike a ball , lawd , real clean.

Nah, too busy celebratin de two champion league titles won since den  :devil:

You only won in 2009. Hope you not counting 2011.  :shameonyou:


Great minds think alike  :devil:

i need a middle finger emoticon  :waiting:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 22, 2011, 09:05:06 AM
Need Berba to score at least two today for that Golden boot! He deserves some individual reward for his contribution this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2011, 09:23:07 AM
lord look at berba chest that ball and pass it off  :o , that man have some bess touch dread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 22, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
No offense to the Man U massive..allyuh already win the league - it would be magical to see Blackpool survive the drop at Old Trafford...



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 22, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
All yuh see Scholes point at Nani telling him that the pass coming and laid on a plate for him? Skills!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2011, 10:36:57 AM
All yuh see Scholes point at Nani telling him that the pass coming and laid on a plate for him? Skills!
laser guided! edit: own goal blackpool, they aint helping they self.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 22, 2011, 10:40:52 AM
That Evatt soldier who scored the own goal deserves all the sympathy the world can offer at this point. 

How I would hate to be him right now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 22, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
Owen seals it...game over.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2011, 10:43:53 AM
OWEN! that fellah is such a good player, pitty he get all them injuries.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 22, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
Berba's nerves have gotten the best of him today! Geezanages!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2011, 11:04:25 AM
ALL HAIL EDWIN!!  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: TOP CLASS
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 22, 2011, 11:14:24 AM
Ando finshed the season strong; hope he can continue on!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2011, 12:11:54 PM
(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/114497820.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892140FEB0FF7845C57D82CC34147F8B5E19C191AA77A0DFFE6CF8FC1F67C2B45067)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 22, 2011, 12:17:21 PM
Congrats guys, you got 1 trophy this season, well deserved
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on May 22, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
Congrats Man U  :beermug:
but watch out..with no European games we challenging next season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 22, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
Congrats Man U  :beermug:
but watch out..with no European games we challenging next season
Yea we will wqatch you all challenge Man.C, Chelski, Arsenal and Tottenham for second  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: xixgon on May 23, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
The Worst United Team In Years?

1. Won the league by 9 points

2. Contains the Premier League’s top scorer (21).

3. Enjoyed the best home form in Sir Alex Ferguson’s reign, winning 18 and drawing 1.

4. Picked up more points than the Treble winning side of 1999.

5. Booked a place in the European Cup final.

6. Contains the player with the most Premier League assists (18).

7. Lost 4 games, which was at least 4 games less than any other club.

8. Scored more goals than any other club (78).

9. Failed to score in just 5 games, which was less than any other club.


Courtesy of the Republik of Mancunia.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 23, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
Ryan Giggs named by MP as injunction footballer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13503847

A married footballer named on Twitter as having an injunction over an alleged affair with a reality TV star has been identified in Parliament as Ryan Giggs.

Lib Dem MP John Hemming named the player during an urgent Commons question on privacy orders.

Using parliamentary privilege to break the court order, he said it would not be practical to imprison the 75,000 Twitter users who had named the player.

Earlier the High Court again ruled that the injunction should not be lifted.

The player, whose injunction says he can only be identified as CTB, obtained the order against ex-Big Brother contestant Imogen Thomas, who is a former Miss Wales, and the Sun newspaper.

Parliamentary privilege protects MPs and peers from prosecution for statements made in the House of Commons or House of Lords.

Addressing MPs, Mr Hemming said: "Mr Speaker, with about 75,000 people having named Ryan Giggs it is obviously impracticable to imprison them all."

House of Commons speaker John Bercow interrupted the MP saying: "Let me just say to the honourable gentleman, I know he's already done it, but occasions such as this are occasions for raising the issues of principle involved, not seeking to flout for whatever purpose."
'Protect family'

In court, Mr Justice Eady rejected a fresh application by Sun publisher News Group Newspapers to discharge the privacy injunction.

The judge said: "The court's duty remains to try and protect the claimant, and particularly his family, from intrusion and harassment so long as it can."

On Sunday, a Scottish paper named Mr Giggs as being the footballer identified on Twitter.

The Attorney General Dominic Grieve told the Commons the prime minister had asked for a joint committee of peers and MPs to investigate the use of privacy orders.

David Cameron has written a letter to John Whittingdale, chairman of the Commons culture committee, recommending the setting up of a new body.

Earlier he told ITV1's Daybreak that banning newspapers from naming such stars while the information was widely available on the internet was both "unsustainable" and "unfair".

Mr Whittingdale told the Commons developments in this area were "moving very rapidly".

"You virtually need to be living in an igloo not to know the identity of at least one of the premiership footballers.

"We are in danger of making the law look like an ass."

The footballer's lawyers had previously obtained a High Court order asking Twitter to reveal details of users who had revealed his identity after thousands named him.
'Attention-seeking'

John Hemming later told the BBC why he had named Mr Giggs.

"Basically when he... showed that he was going to go after relatively normal people and try and prosecute them, for gossiping about him on a matter of trivia, I think he has to be held to account for that," he said.

But Alastair Campbell, Labour's former director of communications said it was the action of an "attention-seeking" MP.

He told the BBC: "[There] are a lot of self-serving voices coming on, those that are involved in newspapers, those that are involved in people trying to get this story out.

"And frankly I think we have to start differentiating between the public interest, and a proper definition of what that means, and stories that the media decide the public people might be interested in... it's not the same thing."

In another case brought by a separate footballer, known to the court as TSE, a High Court judge ruled on Monday that comments on Twitter about the private life of a famous person did not mean there should be no injunction preventing newspapers from publishing stories about him.

Midfielder Ryan Giggs, 37, is Manchester United's most senior player, having appeared in 613 games.

He celebrated with the team at Old Trafford on Sunday as they lifted the Premier League trophy for a record 19th time, and is expected to be in the squad to face Barcelona in Saturday's European Champions League final at Wembley.

The player, who made 64 appearances for Wales before retiring from international football in 2007, was awarded an OBE that year.

He was named BBC Sports Personality of the Year in 2009.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on May 23, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
he'll shag who he wants, he'll shag who he wants...that boy giggsy, he'll shag who he wants
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 23, 2011, 03:19:28 PM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 23, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
Steups he covering for Darron Gibson...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 23, 2011, 06:20:30 PM
Steups he covering for Darron Gibson...


LOl! Is Dwight fault for introducing her to him! Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to people I know and don't know!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 23, 2011, 08:31:43 PM
The Worst United Team In Years?

The worst United team was the one that got demoted to d2 about 25 yrs ago.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 24, 2011, 08:30:10 AM
Reports in Spain say that United sign DeGea!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2011, 08:53:03 AM
Reports in Spain say that United sign DeGea!

he good?  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2011, 08:55:30 AM
Atletico keeper De Gea to sign five-year contract with Manchester United as clubs agree £17.8m deal

EXCLUSIVE

Manchester United have agreed a £17.8million deal for Atletico Madrid goalkeeper David De Gea.
Sportsmail revealed last month that Sir Alex Ferguson had identified the 20-year-old as the replacement for Edwin van der Sar and the clubs have now reached an agreement which will see De Gea sign a five-year deal at Old Trafford.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/13/article-0-09416CD4000005DC-255_634x379.jpg)

De Gea narrowly missed out on a place in Spain’s World Cup squad last summer but is considered the long-term replacement for current No 1 Iker Casillas
Atletico Madrid chief executive Miguel Angel Gil Marin claimed on Tuesday night that both Manchester United and Chelsea have made offers for the young keeper.
Gil Marin told Spanish radio station Cadena SER: 'We’ve received offers from both United and Chelsea, while he also has an offer from us to renew his deal.
'We’d like him to stay here, but David’s future is entirely in his own hands.'
Ferguson does not want to repeat the mistakes he made when Peter Schmeichel left the club in 1999.

Until Van der Sar arrived from Fulham in 2005 for £2m, United had failed to find a suitable successor for the Great Dane with a succession of failures lining up between the posts.
Mark Bosnich, Massimmo Taibi, Fabien Barthez, Roy Carroll, Ricardo and Tim Howard all tried but ultimately failed to provide a long-term solution for Ferguson before he turned to the Dutchman.
United are aware that paying so much for such a young player like De Gea is a huge gamble but they are convinced by the 6ft 3in star’s quality and have chosen him ahead of Schalke’s Manuel Neuer, Inter Milan’s Julio Cesar and Ajax’s Maarten Stekelenburg.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1376667/Manchester-United-sign-David-De-Gea.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 24, 2011, 08:59:46 AM
Very undecided about this... He is very highly rated but his age(20) just seems like its too soon for him..replacing Edwin with that expectation and pressure

but say what..In Fergie we Trust... lets hope for the best If it is him

Now lets go get Modric
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on May 24, 2011, 09:06:44 AM
Reports in Spain say that United sign DeGea!

he good?  ???

He borse... I vex
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
We can stop Lionel Messi, declares Sir Alex Ferguson

The Manchester United manager insists his side will be able to contain the Ballon d'Or winner at Wembley

(http://cdn.thesportreview.com/images/siralexcarr.jpg)
Sir Alex Ferguson faces the media at United's Carrington training ground

European player of the year Lionel Messi can be stopped, according to Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

Speaking ahead of Saturday’s Champions League final against Barcelona at Wembley, the Scot was bullish about his side’s chances of containing the Argentine maestro.
“We have played against Barcelona three times with Messi in the team,” said Ferguson. “But there is always a solution to every good player. Hopefully we can find one on Saturday.
“They have other good players though, and so do we. That is why it is such an appealing game. I am sure Barcelona are aware of that.”
While Barcelona are the favourites to triumph in London on Saturday, Ferguson insists his team should not be overlooked.
“It’s not just about Barcelona, it’s about us too, what’s best for us and the best way of winning the match,” he continued.

The Spanish champions cruised to 2-0 victory when the sides last met in the 2009 final in Rome, but Ferguson insists that disappointing night will not play on his stars’ minds.
“There is no advantage,” he added. “It doesn’t matter. We don’t decide those things. I know my players will be ready.”

Instead, he is focusing on the two meetings from a year before, where United recorded a 1-0 aggregate win over the Catalan giants to book their place in the 2008 final against Chelsea – which they went on to win on penalties.

Ferguson believes total concentration was the reason behind his side’s 2008 triumph, and he admits his side must once again be fully focused if they are to lift the European Cup for a third time.
“We showed fantastic concentration in those two ties,” he said. “We lost the first goal because of a sudden lapse in concentration and we had to regroup and that was what cost us really. That is the key for us. It is an important issue in terms of Saturday.”

Midfielder Ryan Giggs missed training on the day after he was identified in Parliament as the married footballer named on Twitter as having an injunction over an alleged affair with a reality TV star.
And when asked about the Welshman’s importance to his side, Ferguson simply replied: “All the players are important to us.”

The United boss was then caught by Sky News microphones asking the club’s press officer Karen Shotbolt to ban the journalist, Rob Harris from Associated Press, from Friday’s news conference at Wembley.

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2011/05/we-can-stop-lionel-messi-declares-sir-alex-ferguson/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 24, 2011, 10:06:25 AM
Reports in Spain say that United sign DeGea!

he good?  ???

He borse... I vex

I hadda go and watch them Atletico games on ESPN3 now.

I not too impressed. I doubt it have much between him and Stekelenburg I woulda prefer the more experienced player. He mighta be cheaper too. But yuh never know maybe that wasn't an option.

The upside is that it have money to spend and Ferguson keeps getting good youths in so that when he eventually leaves there will be good players to work with.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 24, 2011, 10:45:38 AM
The few games i've seen him play he has been very good.. A very athletic and agile young keeper, kinda remind me of a young Casillas. In one of the games I saw he was real flying, and he used his feet alot to make reflex saves which I like to see keepers do.

On the flipside, I saw a couple young keeper errors like parrying the ball back into play and kicking out wild under pressure. That is the drawback with a young keeper, you get the agility and speed but the positioning, calmness and control of space which the best keepers have does only come with experience. Van Der Sar is so good he could probably go on for another 2 years even if he lost some spring. He was Man Utd player of the season in my books.

And then it never easy for a foreign keeper coming to the EPL as the refs offer no protection. It can be very unsettling as a keeper to have a wild man Keven Davies jumping into you full under "get stuck in lads" and the ref sucking the whistle. Reina and Gomes had problems with that recently and they came with much more experience.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 24, 2011, 12:42:27 PM
This is why players will play for this man. Circle the wagons and back your players and staff.

Ferguson tries to get journalist banned for asking Giggs question (http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/92616.html)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 24, 2011, 12:46:07 PM
Man Utd break £60m in earnings (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/923067/man-utd-break-L60m-in-premier-league-earnings?cc=5901)

Manchester United have become the first club to top the £60 million mark in earnings from Premier League prize money and TV cash.

United earned £60.4 million as the new record overseas TV deals saw top-flight clubs bring in up to £7 million more than last season.

Blackpool were the lowest earners of the Premier League but still saw £39.1 million go into their coffers, while Chelsea earned £57.7 million, Manchester City £55.5 million and Arsenal £56.2 million.

The figures released by the Premier League also show that it has the smallest difference in earnings between the champions and the bottom club in terms of ratio of any major league in Europe.

England's top club earned 1.54 times as much as the bottom in TV money - down from 1.66 last season. In Spain, where TV rights are negotiated on a club-by-club basis, Real Madrid and Barcelona earn 12.5 times more than the smallest clubs in La Liga.


Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore said: ''We believe that our income distribution mechanism, the most equitable of Europe's major football leagues, rewards sporting success while also guaranteeing a significant amount to each club in order that they can plan from one season to the next.

''Many have commented on the competitive nature of this season's Barclays Premier League.

''The clubs deserve huge credit for putting on a fantastic competition. We believe the way we distribute broadcast income plays a part in allowing each club to compete at the highest level.''

The Premier League distributes TV rights money based partly on performance, partly via equal shares of TV income, and partly on the number of times a club's matches are screened live on domestic television.

This season, each club received £13.8 million as the equal share of domestic TV rights and £17.9 million as the equal share of overseas TV rights.

On top of that, every place in the Premier League table is worth £756,000 - bottom club West Ham received that amount and champions Manchester United £15.1 million.

Facility fees of £582,000 are paid to a club every time they play in a live TV match - with a minimum income of £5.82 million even if a club has been involved in fewer than 10 live games.

The Premier League also pay out £15 million each in parachute payments to previously relegated clubs Hull, Burnley, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough. The three relegated clubs this season will receive the same amount.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 24, 2011, 12:49:30 PM
This is why players will play for this man. Circle the wagons and back your players and staff.

Ferguson tries to get journalist banned for asking Giggs question (http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/92616.html)

It just sets the tone for the rest of the press conferences leading up to the final for these journalists. Watch what you ask or you will no longer have access. Some of these media people just love to stir it up and up to no good. Fergies also not stupid; he wants zero distractions to interfere with this opportunity to win this trophy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 24, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
Man Utd break £60m in earnings (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/923067/man-utd-break-L60m-in-premier-league-earnings?cc=5901)

Manchester United have become the first club to top the £60 million mark in earnings from Premier League prize money and TV cash.

United earned £60.4 million as the new record overseas TV deals saw top-flight clubs bring in up to £7 million more than last season.

Blackpool were the lowest earners of the Premier League but still saw £39.1 million go into their coffers, while Chelsea earned £57.7 million, Manchester City £55.5 million and Arsenal £56.2 million.

The figures released by the Premier League also show that it has the smallest difference in earnings between the champions and the bottom club in terms of ratio of any major league in Europe.

England's top club earned 1.54 times as much as the bottom in TV money - down from 1.66 last season. In Spain, where TV rights are negotiated on a club-by-club basis, Real Madrid and Barcelona earn 12.5 times more than the smallest clubs in La Liga.


Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore said: ''We believe that our income distribution mechanism, the most equitable of Europe's major football leagues, rewards sporting success while also guaranteeing a significant amount to each club in order that they can plan from one season to the next.

''Many have commented on the competitive nature of this season's Barclays Premier League.

''The clubs deserve huge credit for putting on a fantastic competition. We believe the way we distribute broadcast income plays a part in allowing each club to compete at the highest level.''

The Premier League distributes TV rights money based partly on performance, partly via equal shares of TV income, and partly on the number of times a club's matches are screened live on domestic television.

This season, each club received £13.8 million as the equal share of domestic TV rights and £17.9 million as the equal share of overseas TV rights.

On top of that, every place in the Premier League table is worth £756,000 - bottom club West Ham received that amount and champions Manchester United £15.1 million.

Facility fees of £582,000 are paid to a club every time they play in a live TV match - with a minimum income of £5.82 million even if a club has been involved in fewer than 10 live games.

The Premier League also pay out £15 million each in parachute payments to previously relegated clubs Hull, Burnley, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough. The three relegated clubs this season will receive the same amount.

To bad some it may be going to line the Glazers' family pockets! They really fortunate this team continues to be successful since they bought them. Let's hope for more financial stabilty by the time Fergie leaves because good knows it could go down hill really fast!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 24, 2011, 02:55:11 PM
well apparently De Gea has been signed for 17 million pounds.. official announcement to be made Monday

Welcome David
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 24, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Fergie confirms De Gea deal
Gifted young goalkeeper brought in to replace Van der Sar

Outstanding replacement

The Scot told Sky Sports News: "We've been working on it for quite a while, we identified him a while back as one we should go for.

"He's a young goalkeeper, very quick, with good composure and presence. He's an outstanding replacement for Edwin van der Sar.

"We were looking for someone with the same types of qualities. One great quality Edwin always had was his composure and organisational ability.

"David De Gea is very similar that way."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6950673,00.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 24, 2011, 04:15:56 PM
He built just like edwin too , tall frame . He looks like a young Van der sar
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on May 24, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
well apparently De Gea has been signed for 17 million pounds.. official announcement to be made Monday

Welcome David

Good buy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 25, 2011, 06:27:53 PM
  I love these twins; they seem to have the correct attitude and an asset to the side!

Champions League final: Barcelona v Manchester United, Wembley, Saturday 28 May 7.45pm
Fábio and Rafael: twins united in mission for the Republic of Silva

Only one of the Brazilian brothers will start at Wembley but both believe Manchester United can hurt Barcelona

   Fernando Duarte   guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 25 May 2011 22.01 BST
 

Luiz Henrique da Silva giggles at the question: how do you spot the difference between Rafael and Fábio? The big brother, who came to England to look after the Brazilian twins, seems genuinely puzzled by how, as in the lyrics of the chant that echoes around Old Trafford, when the boys run down the pitch, one can't say which is which. "When they were babies it was hard, and my mom managed to feed Rafa or Fábio a bottle twice," Luiz Henrique says. "But now they are totally different in the way they look and behave."
He observes how Fábio moves his arm oddly when he runs and the chickenpox spots and scars on Rafael's face.
But uncertainty remains in the Manchester United dressing room, with even Sir Alex Ferguson confusing the duo. Fábio says: "There was a match where he came to me in the dressing room and started to tell me off, but calling me Rafael. He still gets us confused, but it doesn't matter. Sir Alex knows everything about football and he loves the Brazilian style. He is crazy about Cafu, our idol."

That "style" is another trait the pair have in common, and in terms of ability there is little to separate them. The brothers have been fighting for the same position in the team since Ferguson began experimenting with Fábio, a right-footed left-back, on the side of the pitch for which Rafael was originally signed to occupy. As a result Rafael will likely be sat with the Scotsman on the bench at the start of the Champions League final at Wembley, with Fábio expected to make the starting XI. Rather than sulk, however, Rafael sees half full a glass that until very recently risked emptiness.

"I am happy to see my brother bouncing back after a difficult start at United," he explains. "He got injured a few times and didn't get many games in the first two seasons. There was even talk about him being loaned out. We have been together throughout our entire career and would love to keep it this way for as long as possible."

The 20-year-olds live together at the same house in Cheshire with their wives and Luiz Henrique, who is also married and has a daughter. As well as Brazilian TV channels, the troupe appreciate the expatriated cuisine and the scent of black bean stew can be detected emanating from the kitchen. Carla, Rafael's other half, calls their home the Republic of Silva, with the twins' parents and other relatives from Brazil sometimes spending time there too. "The boys are very quiet in terms of social life," she says. "They say that after all the travelling and training the last thing they want is to go out. Sometimes we nag them a bit and might get to go to a restaurant, but most of the time we are all here."

After three seasons at Old Trafford, the twins feel integrated into the United ethos and praise Ferguson for helping them settle. Even when Rafael's sending off against Bayern Munich in the 2009-10 Champions League quarter-finals cost United dearly, the Brazilian was not on the receiving end of the hairdryer in the dressing room. "He was angry but it was more a paternal dressing-down than anything at full blast. It actually made me feel more ashamed than if he had screamed. But he always talks to us about taking time to learn with our mistakes and not being too anxious."

They are also thankful for Ferguson's comprehension of their bond. "He understood when I went down the dressing room to see my brother after he got hit badly in the head [against Blackpool last January]," says Fábio, who would otherwise have replaced Rafael on the pitch. His familial duty was also tested during a run-in with Craig Bellamy. "Dirty player, always moaning and trying to wind people up. He pulled Rafa's hair once and I wanted to punch him."

Looking after each other was something they learned early on. Sons of working-class parents, the twins grew up in Rio de Janeiro's Peak District, where rich country houses share space with more humble surroundings. Football saved them from menial work, and they are proud of their father's job as a porter in a deluxe condominium. "We are grateful for what he and my mom have done for us," Rafael says. "We didn't have much but were never obsessed with money. I guess that helped us a lot when United came knocking."

They claim to have turned down an offer from Arsenal because it would have bypassed their then club, Fluminense, in the negotiations. "My mum was adamant," Fábio explains. "We could not turn our backs to the club that took us on when we were only 11, even though they then refused to allow us to play in the first team when the contract with United was signed."

The episode is still brought up in the Brazilian media as the twins became a symbol of a new era where younger talent would, as the Portuguese phrase goes, take the airport way. Signed at 16, Rafael and Fábio had previously arranged to play a season for Fluminense so that the transition to the Premier League would not look so daunting, but there was a change of directors and the boys were told by no less than World Cup winner and former full-back Branco that they were surplus to requirements. "Some supporters thought that we were the ones refusing to play but I reckon people understand it now," says Rafael. "If we ever play in Brazil again, we would definitely listen to Fluminense, as much as my brother and I support [local rivals] Botafogo."


The twins ended up as full-backs by accident. In their early days in the Fluminense academy, based in the outskirts of Rio, Rafael's preference for the right side of the pitch had more to do with escaping the scorching heat than beating his marker. "The training pitch had a shadow on the right side and I, then a midfielder, went through there a couple of times during a game so I could escape the sun," he recalls. "The manager liked it and moved me to right-back."


Fábio's journey to the left side was more circuitous. Originally a striker who once fed off his brother's long balls to score goals galore in a local team in Petrópolis (a mountain town near Rio and historically important for hosting the Brazilian emperor's summer palace), at Fluminense he struggled to find a place until the first choice left-back was dropped because of forged documentation. "The manager put me there and I ended up enjoying it more than playing up front, as much as Sir Alex sometimes has to remind us that we can't bomb forward as much as Brazilians full-backs do."

On Saturday United will come up against one such player, Barcelona's Dani Alves. The Da Silvas are respectful of the Catalan team but see no reason why they should be apprehensive about sharing the same pitch. "We have a side full of confidence and good players and shouldn't fear Barcelona," Fábio says. Rafael, as he often does, enforces his brother's viewpoint. "I don't see why we can't hurt them if we stick to a game plan where we don't make the same mistakes made by some of their opponents. Basically, Barcelona do not like being attacked or pressured. We need to make them feel uncomfortable."

Our conversation is in Portuguese but the twins' English is not as hesitant as might be expected in their discussion with the photographer. It is good enough to understand a rare joke by Paul Scholes – "He is a quiet guy and nobody expects him to say something funny, but all of sudden he will," says Rafael – and to realise they should not push Wayne Rooney too hard during kickabouts. "Wayne can get quite competitive, but that's why he's such a great player," explains Fábio. Nani still amazes the twins with his tricks and they also admire how Dimitar Berbatov casually executes plays.

In the dressing room Rio Ferdinand has filled the role performed by their brother at home. "He was always joking with us since the beginning, trying to make us relax," says Rafael. No doubt the twins will be similarly supporting each other on Saturday, even if only one can make the starting line-up.
 
 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on May 26, 2011, 04:34:07 AM
Came across this by mistake. Hadn't seen it before; enjoy  :beermug:

Pitchside footage of the last 3 mins of the 1999 Champions League final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_f9CB1Pmg
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 26, 2011, 09:18:18 AM
Came across this by mistake. Hadn't seen it before; enjoy  :beermug:

Pitchside footage of the last 3 mins of the 1999 Champions League final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_f9CB1Pmg

thanks !  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 27, 2011, 12:03:03 PM
it would tickle me no end to see manu lose tomorrow

but here's why i think they can win it

Van der sar final bow he is awesome and will want to go out on the highest of highs that he can

chicarito is a booby trap waiting to spring into action at a moment notice

park engery fuh days

giggs will brain f**k barca smartest footballer after bergkamp

depending on which rooney nani rio vidic and evra turn up and barca will have to play the most perfect game they ever played to win
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 28, 2011, 05:10:42 PM
That taste in your mouth now Manu fans, its called humble pie!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 28, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
Barcelona gave us a hiding, says Man Utd boss Ferguson

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53050000/jpg/_53050397_united464.jpg)

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson labelled Barcelona "the best team I have faced" after his side's 3-1 defeat in the Champions League final.

The Spaniards put on a stunning display of passing, movement and clinical finishing at Wembley to lift the European Cup for the fourth time.

Wayne Rooney equalised after Pedro scored, but goals from Lionel Messi and David Villa left United well beaten.

"Nobody's given us a hiding like that but they deserve it," Ferguson said.

"They play the right way and they enjoy their football. They do mesmerize you with their passing and we never really did control Messi. But many people have said that.

"In my time as manager, it's the best team I've faced."

Having already experienced defeat by Barcelona in a Champions League final - in Rome in 2009 - Ferguson was desperate not for history to repeat itself.

But his side were outplayed and outclassed, with Messi at the heart of everything good about Barcelona - and there was plenty that was good.

Ferguson compared Saturday's loss to the famous 4-0 drubbing United received from Barcelona at the Nou Camp in 1994, a result which helped redefine his team's approach to European competitions.

"It's not going to be easy, but that's the challenge," Ferguson said. "You shouldn't be afraid of a challenge. The one thing we have shown is that we are consistent in Europe.

"This may be the kind of stepping stone that we had some years ago when we got beaten 4-0. We improved after that and we want to improve after tonight."

Barcelona's victory was their second triumph in the Champions League in three years - and their third in five years.

Ferguson admitted that Barcelona would be difficult to beat so long as their star players Messi, Andres Iniesta and Xavi Hernandez remained in their ranks.

"I think that great teams do go in cycles, and I think the cycle they're in at the moment makes them the best in Europe, there's no question of that," said the Scot.

"How long it lasts, whether they can replace that team at a certain point, who knows? But they certainly have the philosophy.

"It's always difficult to say whether you'll be able to replace players like Xavi and Iniesta at a certain point. Probably not. But they are enjoying the moment and they deserve to because they play football the right way."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13587100.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 28, 2011, 06:56:59 PM
How come these da Silva twins have so many fitness problems? Cramp?!?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 28, 2011, 08:05:40 PM
1 shot on target.  It wasn't even a contest.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 29, 2011, 06:09:40 AM
How come these da Silva twins have so many fitness problems? Cramp?!?

 Every month.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on May 29, 2011, 07:31:52 AM
1 shot on target.  It wasn't even a contest.
well, the game was a little "Messi"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 29, 2011, 09:47:23 AM
How come these da Silva twins have so many fitness problems? Cramp?!?

 Every month.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Chow, yuh dread oui! But serious talk. Dem fellas does get sub off regular for dat. Dey exempt from training or what?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on May 30, 2011, 03:46:10 AM
1 shot on target.  It wasn't even a contest.
well, the game was a little "Messi"
'Twas MEN versus boys
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on May 30, 2011, 04:05:48 AM
1 shot on target.  It wasn't even a contest.
well, the game was a little "Messi"
'Twas MEN versus boys

Aye doc, what's happening??  Long time no see....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on May 30, 2011, 05:07:24 AM
1 shot on target.  It wasn't even a contest.
well, the game was a little "Messi"
'Twas MEN versus boys

Aye doc, what's happening??  Long time no see....
Mih deh yah ;D Maybe I'd bless yuh eyes for the "Heritage wedding". Lol!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 30, 2011, 11:58:58 AM
How come these da Silva twins have so many fitness problems? Cramp?!?

Probably diet!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on May 30, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
Just reach home... will post pics of the game  :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 30, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
Just reach home... will post pics of the game  :'(
you went and watch the cut arse live and direct?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 31, 2011, 06:25:04 AM
It is a thrill to have a great player play his whole career at your club.

Paul Scholes retires and takes Manchester United coaching role (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/31/paul-scholes-retires-manchester-united)

• 36-year-old will join Old Trafford coaching staff next season
• Scholes: A video appreciation of his career

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Tuesday 31 May 2011 09.21 BST
 
After a Manchester United first-team career spanning 17 years and 676 appearances, Paul Scholes has announced his retirement with immediate effect. There had been speculation about the 36-year-old's future in the past few weeks after he became increasingly dissatisfied with his bit-part role, and he will now take up a coaching position at Old Trafford from next season.

The famously shy midfielder said: "I am not a man of many words but I can honestly say that playing football is all I have ever wanted to do. To have had such a long and successful career at Manchester United has been a real honour. To have been part of the team that helped the club reach a record 19th title is a great privilege.

"This was not a decision I have taken lightly but I feel now is the right time for me to stop playing. I would like to thank the fans for their tremendous support throughout my career, I would also like to thank all the coaches and players that I have worked with over the years.

"But most of all I would like to thank Sir Alex [Ferguson] for being such a great manager. From the day I joined the club his door has always been open and I know this team will go on to win many more trophies under his leadership."

A member of the famed class of '92, who won the FA Youth Cup, Scholes made his debut in 1994, and his last game was Saturday's Champions League final defeat to Barcelona. He won 10 Premier League titles and, after missing the 1999 Champions League final through suspension, was part of the team that beat Chelsea in the Moscow final of 2008.

"What more can I say about Paul Scholes that I haven't said before?" Ferguson said. "We are going to miss a truly unbelievable player. Paul has always been fully committed to this club and I am delighted he will be joining the coaching staff. Paul has always been inspirational to players of all ages and we know that will continue."

Scholes's precise role within the United coaching setup has still to be confirmed, although there could be an opening available with the reserves, where Warren Joyce has been acting alone since the departure of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. The former England international will also be granted a testimonial, which will take place in August.

Wayne Rooney said Scholes is the best player he has ever played with. "He will be missed greatly," Rooney said. "He is definitely the best player I have played with. I tried to ask him what he was doing but you don't get much out of him.

"I didn't think it would come this quickly. Everyone will be sad to see him stop. He is a great player."

"It is a very sad day for Manchester United fans around the world," David Gill, the United chief executive, said. "Paul has established himself as one of the greatest players to ever wear the United shirt. It is very important that the club keeps the association with these great players and we are delighted that Paul will join the coaching staff."
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Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2011, 06:38:55 AM
Now woke up to this... Not really surprised but I cant believe we wont see any more of Scholes again in a red shirt. Sad thought for all United fans.

The greatest English Midfielder in the past 2 decades and definitely top 5 midfielders past 2 decades too...

After the Barca game 5 Barca players went to him and Iniesta won the right to get his shirt.. 5 players of a CL winning team ran to Scholes

LEGEND
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Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2011, 06:44:57 AM
Xavi: “In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything. He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.”

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."

Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Peter Schmeichel : "Still the best player in that United midfield."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

Michael Carrick : "Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is."

Michael Carrick : "He is a legend and he's going to be remembered for a long time. Just to play alongside him and learn from him has been an absolute pleasure. I think he is a footballer's footballer; he has been at this level for so long. As long as he is part of us we always feel we have a chance. We appreciate the way he goes about his business. I have never met a character like Scholesy; certainly not someone who is that good."

Park Ji Sung when asked by the club’s official home page which United player he would like to see in the red shirt of the Taeguk Warriors : “It has to be Paul Scholes.”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."

Brian Kidd : "Paul Scholes had the best football brain I'd ever seen in a kid. Let's face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own."

Rio Ferdinand : "I can honestly say Paul is the best player in the England squad. For me he is the complete player."

Rio Ferdinand : "For me, it's Paul Scholes. He'll do ridiculous things in training like say, "You see that tree over there?" - it'll be 40 yards away - "I'm going to hit it". And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."

Phil Neville : "Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England's key player. For me, he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo."

Gary Neville : "I wouldn't swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best."

Gary Neville : "Paul Scholes is the best player I've ever played with. There's talent in every part of his game."

Steve Bruce : "He's the best player in Britain in my opinion and he has to get himself fit just before we are due to play at Old Trafford. I cannot pay Paul a bigger compliment than to say that he's the most complete footballer in the country. The best bar none."

Roy Keane : "An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being."

George Best : "To be honest I think England have lost their best player. Certainly he's the most consistent and naturally gifted player we've had for a long, long time."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "I am sorry for England because they don't have any player like him. You can talk about others but there is no one else like him. He is the best technical player England has without any question. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy"

Sir Bobby Charlton : "He’s always so in control and pinpoint accurate with his passing – a beautiful player to watch."

Sir Bobby Charlton : "Paul Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them - and I knew he was one of them. That's why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He's got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him."

Sir Alex Ferguson : "He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world."

Sir Alex Ferguson : Sir Alex Ferguson gave evidence in court on behalf of one of his former trainees and listened to the prosecution barrister's list of United's top players.

"You've missed Paul Scholes - and he's my best player," Ferguson chided her.
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Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2011, 07:20:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/Ie-x0DZwoiE

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

What a perfect tribute to the man himself
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Post by: Cantona007 on May 31, 2011, 07:32:52 AM
What a sad day for United fans... THE best English midfielder I have ever seen, and I've been watching for a while.

Thanks for the memories, Sat Nav.  :beermug: :beermug:

He scores goals galore...
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Post by: kicker on May 31, 2011, 07:56:36 AM
Well done Scholes...
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Post by: GunnerStunner on May 31, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
not to stir shite with manu fans or football purist out there but of manu's ledgend midfielders is scholes the best of them all?

You know vs men like...

Cantona
Keane
Charlton
Robson



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 31, 2011, 08:24:25 AM
not to stir shite with manu fans or football purist out there but of manu's ledgend midfielders is scholes the best of them all?

You know vs men like...

Cantona
Keane
Charlton
Robson

Cantona was a forward.  He was better than Keane...

Can't comment on the other two. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 31, 2011, 08:30:03 AM
so thats a yes then?
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Post by: JDB on May 31, 2011, 09:03:38 AM
United's greatest central midfielder, was their and England's best player and record goalscorer Bobby Charlton (another one club legend).

The rest of central midfielders really fall into a group of Robson, Keane, Scholes and Duncan Edwards (never seen but rated by Charlton as the best of all time, better than Sir Bobby himself).

 For wide players it would be some mixture of Best, Giggs, Ronaldo (although he could be a forward too), maybe Coppell.

For strikers it would be Law, Cantona, Taylor (who had the best goal return of them all), maybe RVN.

It real hard to pick a best 11 or a best player in most positions because if you judge on raw talent you will pick a player like Ronaldo over Giggs, if you judge on achievement Giggs over Ronaldo, or Keane over Robson.

If you judge on impact then Cantona will get pick because he was a catalyst for success even though other forwards had mucher better goal returns and better performances in Europe.

Then you have to consider potential because they had a number of talented players who we never get to see, were considered to be the best ever but had careers cut short by tragedy.
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Post by: giggsy11 on May 31, 2011, 10:28:45 AM
United's greatest central midfielder, was their and England's best player and record goalscorer Bobby Charlton (another one club legend).

The rest of central midfielders really fall into a group of Robson, Keane, Scholes and Duncan Edwards (never seen but rated by Charlton as the best of all time, better than Sir Bobby himself).

 For wide players it would be some mixture of Best, Giggs, Ronaldo (although he could be a forward too), maybe Coppell.

For strikers it would be Law, Cantona, Taylor (who had the best goal return of them all), maybe RVN.

It real hard to pick a best 11 or a best player in most positions because if you judge on raw talent you will pick a player like Ronaldo over Giggs, if you judge on achievement Giggs over Ronaldo, or Keane over Robson.

If you judge on impact then Cantona will get pick because he was a catalyst for success even though other forwards had mucher better goal returns and better performances in Europe.

Then you have to consider potential because they had a number of talented players who we never get to see, were considered to be the best ever but had careers cut short by tragedy.


I would rate Beckham as one the great wide players. He scored and set men up and.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 31, 2011, 01:26:28 PM
Lionel Messi on Paul Scholes "At La Masia (Barcelona's Academy) his name was mentioned a lot. He's a teacher.”
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Post by: Big Magician on May 31, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 01, 2011, 06:11:56 PM
Owen resigns for 1 year, Berba says he wants to stay and help the team win the 20th and it starts getting serious July 4th!. Hmmm, does that mean no room for Berba if Wellbeck Kiko return? Maybe a little competition is what Berba needs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on June 01, 2011, 09:43:00 PM
come on Giggsy ...Kiko,wellbeck and the present owen ...??..beba worried ??
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Post by: JDB on June 02, 2011, 05:49:40 AM
Owen resigns for 1 year, Berba says he wants to stay and help the team win the 20th and it starts getting serious July 4th!. Hmmm, does that mean no room for Berba if Wellbeck Kiko return? Maybe a little competition is what Berba needs.

Berbatov is still one of the top 3 strikers at the club hopefully next year he will break the big match jinx. I putting Owen behind Welbeck and all as number 5. The rest Macheda, Mame Diouf and Bebe need to move on. Berbatov has actually done better year on year for United and I think we could see some frantic contract negotiations by December, because come January he could sign a pre-contract agreement to leave for free.

Manchester United striker Dimitar Berbatov pledges to stay at Old Trafford (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/02/manchester-united-dimitar-berbatov-stay)

• Striker tells Bulgarian paper he will not seek move
• 'I will keep fighting ... I never gave up in my life'

Associated Press
guardian.co.uk (http://www.footballunlimited.co.uk),   
Thursday 2 June 2011 11.38 BST

Manchester United's Dimitar Berbatov pictured during the side's victory parade with the Premier League trophy.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/SPORT/Pix/pictures/2011/6/2/1307011035734/Dimitar-Berbatov-007.jpg)
Photograph: Craig Brough/Action Images

Dimitar Berbatov has insisted he will stay with Manchester United for another year, rejecting speculation about a possible move away from Old Trafford, according to reports in Bulgaria.

Berbatov was left out of the club's Champions League final squad, raising questions over his relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson. However Berbatov told the Bulgarian newspaper 24 Hours that he had no plans to seek a move.

"I am a Manchester United player and I will be glad to fulfil my contract. Everyone has some difficulties but I have always fought and will keep fighting for a prime place. I never gave up in my life."

The former Bulgaria captain, who has one more year on his United contract, denied reports that he had stormed away from Wembley before the Champions League final started on Saturday.

"The truth is that I was in the dressing rooms and watched the game on TV. I was just so very disappointed and ashamed that I was left out of the squad. I cannot hide my emotions and I did not want people to see how sad I was. But this was the manager's decision. The pain from Wembley cannot make me give up but only fight more."

The Bulgarian was upbeat about his future at United and said he would keep targeting the Champions League title in his career. "There is always next year. I will aim for this as long as I play football," he said.

Berbatov was the Premier League's joint-top scorer alongside Manchester City's Carlos Tevez, and said he was focused on winning another title next year. "Winning England's top scorer title is a grand achievement for me as a foreigner.

"Manchester United is the highest step for me. Everything after that will be a step down. This moment will come but for the time being I am a United player and I want to stay and help win the 20th title, which I am certain is on its way."

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Post by: giggsy11 on June 02, 2011, 06:11:23 AM
come on Giggsy ...Kiko,wellbeck and the present owen ...??..beba worried ??

Lol! I know what was I thinking?  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 02, 2011, 06:25:06 AM
Owen resigns for 1 year, Berba says he wants to stay and help the team win the 20th and it starts getting serious July 4th!. Hmmm, does that mean no room for Berba if Wellbeck Kiko return? Maybe a little competition is what Berba needs.

Berbatov is still one of the top 3 strikers at the club hopefully next year he will break the big match jinx. I putting Owen behind Welbeck and all as number 5. The rest Macheda, Mame Diouf and Bebe need to move on. Berbatov has actually done better year on year for United and I think we could see some frantic contract negotiations by December, because come January he could sign a pre-contract agreement to leave for free.

Manchester United striker Dimitar Berbatov pledges to stay at Old Trafford (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/02/manchester-united-dimitar-berbatov-stay)

• Striker tells Bulgarian paper he will not seek move
• 'I will keep fighting ... I never gave up in my life'

Associated Press
guardian.co.uk (http://www.footballunlimited.co.uk),   
Thursday 2 June 2011 11.38 BST

Manchester United's Dimitar Berbatov pictured during the side's victory parade with the Premier League trophy.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/SPORT/Pix/pictures/2011/6/2/1307011035734/Dimitar-Berbatov-007.jpg)
Photograph: Craig Brough/Action Images

Dimitar Berbatov has insisted he will stay with Manchester United for another year, rejecting speculation about a possible move away from Old Trafford, according to reports in Bulgaria.

Berbatov was left out of the club's Champions League final squad, raising questions over his relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson. However Berbatov told the Bulgarian newspaper 24 Hours that he had no plans to seek a move.

"I am a Manchester United player and I will be glad to fulfil my contract. Everyone has some difficulties but I have always fought and will keep fighting for a prime place. I never gave up in my life."

The former Bulgaria captain, who has one more year on his United contract, denied reports that he had stormed away from Wembley before the Champions League final started on Saturday.

"The truth is that I was in the dressing rooms and watched the game on TV. I was just so very disappointed and ashamed that I was left out of the squad. I cannot hide my emotions and I did not want people to see how sad I was. But this was the manager's decision. The pain from Wembley cannot make me give up but only fight more."

The Bulgarian was upbeat about his future at United and said he would keep targeting the Champions League title in his career. "There is always next year. I will aim for this as long as I play football," he said.

Berbatov was the Premier League's joint-top scorer alongside Manchester City's Carlos Tevez, and said he was focused on winning another title next year. "Winning England's top scorer title is a grand achievement for me as a foreigner.

"Manchester United is the highest step for me. Everything after that will be a step down. This moment will come but for the time being I am a United player and I want to stay and help win the 20th title, which I am certain is on its way."



I agree Berba deserves to stay and be given the opportunity to play as much as any of the other strikers. I think as effective as Hernandez was there are areas in his game he needs to work on to be more effective. He needs to do a better job of holding up the ball, improve his touch and also laying off the ball. Berba needs to improve his mental game, he has good football sense but he is a confidence player. I think his physical skills set are better than any of the United strikers, Rooney included. Berba is also very effective when he has runners around him that he can lay the ball off to, because he likes to create and pass. He is an asset to this team and brings a different demension. I like everything he said about how he intends to approach this upcoming season. Go Berba!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 02, 2011, 06:38:30 AM
i dont think berba playing in the champs final would not have changed the out come

manu midfield was absent no service to the forward line, rooney did all the work that day

chicarito was ineffective but tried hard to make the runs and get into space. the mid field just wasn't in the game that day

i wonder if fergie employed the tactics he used against arsenal in the fa cup if he woulda won or been more competitive in the final
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 02, 2011, 06:49:01 AM
i dont think berba playing in the champs final would not have changed the out come

manu midfield was absent no service to the forward line, rooney did all the work that day

chicarito was ineffective but tried hard to make the runs and get into space. the mid field just wasn't in the game that day

i wonder if fergie employed the tactics he used against arsenal in the fa cup if he woulda won or been more competitive in the final

United's midfield got exposed for what it has been all season;weak, and lacking in creativity. United struggles against teams who are strong in midfield. One of the pluses from us losing is that Fergie realizes/has to admit, that he needs to strengthen that area versus continuing to rely on Giggs and Carrick to create for the team in midfield. We were lucky to get away with it this season but if it continues it will cost us next year in the league and CL.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on June 02, 2011, 08:00:11 AM
A midfield of Carrick and Giggs against Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets could only end up the way it did. Manchester United midfield is unimaginative and inconsistent. Dey woulda have a better chance if they had somebody who actually would tackle consistently.


And Berbatov has to get his mind right. The kind of glaring misses he does affects his confidence and his game. Still a boss doh..but like most of de rest of the side....far too inconsistent.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 02, 2011, 09:35:46 AM
This Man is absolute class... Most United fans including me want him to stay but If he's gonna be on the bench I feel sorry for him as he is so talented so I wouldnt mind if he got a transfer because he deserves to play.. the problem with him is he can only play his best game in a 4-4-2 as a striker partner.. not even in the recent 4-4-1-1 where Hernandez plays the lone and stays on the defenders.. Berba likes to come deep and start plays but Rooney is better there.. so its really difficult finding the cure... Rooney is best at 2nd striker..Hernandez is best at leading the line.. that is the reason for the partnership... But Berba will excell in a 4-4-2 which we generally use in all games except Arsenal home and away and Chelsea away in the prem.. so he can be used alot still... It's in Europe where he will hardly play due to our 4-3-3/ 4-5-1 formation or the new 4-4-1-1 with Wazza Chicho

But whatever happens I and many other United fans do wish him well and hope he stays on and If he leaves nothing but respect from me

Q&A: Berbatov On Missing Final and Sharing Golden Boot With Tevez
June 2, 2011 59 Comments

Here is the full transcript of the interview between Naiden Todorov with the newspaper, “24 Chasa” in Bulgaria.

Naiden Todorov: Mitko, how was the ride on the number 19 bus in Manchester?

Dimitar Berbatov: Great. It was cool. Very nicely done. Except that the weather was bad. But that didn’t prevent so many people coming out in the streets to celebrate the title with us. It was great. I had never been a part of a parade. Only Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes from all of us had experienced the one in 1999 after winning the treble. Now the rest of us have had an amazing experience with the historic 19th title.

NT: Although you are often attacked from all sides, this time all the fans stood by your side. They sang for you, chanting your name, screaming that they love you and that you should stay. How did you feel listening to them?

DB: These things make me feel uncomfortable. I’m not used to it. I really was uncomfortable, but it made me feel proud that people appreciate what we did this year. And what I did to help the team. I guess every player becomes a little uncomfortable. We look at the reactions as the fans start to sing for someone and everyone starts making fun of them. But it is cool.

NT: But in the case and your team-mate Patrice Evra, he did not stop singing for you…

DB: He didn’t stop. At the end he had lost his voice. But he is funny because he thinks he can sing, so don’t let him near the microphone!

NT: For the other players, Evra shouted their names, but he was composing songs about you..

DB: (Laughs). This is because we are close and we are great friends. So he’s always fooling about. It was a little uncomfortable, but very cool.

NT: You are the first Bulgarian with the “Golden Boot” in England – what does it means for you?

DB: I am very proud of that fact. I come from a small country. To become the top scorer in England with the “Golden Boot” is a great thing for me. I’ll cherish it forever.

NT: Which of all your goals is the most valuable to you?

DB: Of course, we can not forget the hattrick against Liverpool. I hope this will remain in the hearts of all United fans. To score three goals against Liverpool is a great achievement. And fans constantly remind me so I can’t forget it. Especially the second goal. It ranks amongst the finest I’ve scored. And I was very proud after that match.

NT: Were you scared in the last game against Blackpool that Tevez was going to score and you would miss out on the Golden Boot?

DB: I am thrilled that he didn’t score as Carlos was I didn’t, I guess. I watched the games afterwards. He kept missing and I kept missing. So it’s fair that we split the prize. But what matters at the end is that we won a record 19th title with Manchester United and that a Bulgarian is the top striker in England. What more can I want? I really felt very happy after the title was won. Things ran perfectly.

NT: Let us clarify what a big disappointment it was last weekend. There were lots of stories written about it. Where were you watching the Champions League final at Wembley?

DB: It is normal for people to come up stories after not seeing me in the stands. It is normal to think that I was not the stadium. The truth is that I was in the locker room watching the game on TV. I was just disappointed and I was ashamed that I was not in the team. So I did not want people to see me how I was and how sad I was, because I hide my emotions. So I preferred to stay alone and watch the match from the dressing room.

NT: When did you realise that you weren’t in the squad? At the official training you looked very happy…

DB: Before the match. The manager then tells the group and notified me about his decision. I was very disappointed but you can not do anything. You must accept it. So I stayed in the locker room, watched the match. After the loss I remained in the locker room and waited to see what Sir Alex said.

NT: Did you talk to Sir Alex alone after the game?

DB: No. It was his personal decision. I was really disappointed and it hurt a lot. But I could not do anything. Sorry that Bulgaria could not see me in the finals, sorry that Bulgaria couldn’t be happy, or cry with me. Everyone now wonders why the team didn’t do well or why Berbatov was not in the squad, but I already told you why, it is the decision of the coach. But there’s always next year. While playing football, one of my fights will be to win this cup. And basically I have to take it. But the biggest disappointment in general was that after the match I went to the bus and one person passed by me. I was thinking about something and I looked up at the person and saw he was carrying the Cup. It was like I was in a movie. I wanted to pass by and walk casually so that he didn’t suspect that I wanted to take it so much!

NT: Do you believe that you will get a fourth chance for the Champions League final?

DB: Sure. Why would I not believe? Evra has played in four finals. And before the game told me: “Now if I lose the final third …” Because he had lost two and won one. Although I’d give everything to be in his place, at least to have won one Cup. I will give everything to have another chance. But even if it did not happen, at least I had the opportunity to play in two finals. There’s no room for complaints.

NT: Did your future plans change after May 28, 2011?

DB: No. I am a player of Manchester United and I am happy to fulfil the contract. Everyone has difficulties but I’ve always fought and will fight for a starting place. If I was a man who gave in I would never have come to Manchester United. I never quit in life. July 4th is coming and it will start all over again – fight for all the titles, the fight for a starting role.

NT: After the final at Wembley BBC wrote, “Thank you and goodbye, Dimitar”…

DB: It is normal to write that after having thought that I was not at the stadium. After the match, Sir Alex also said that I was in the stadium. Why wouldn’t people believe him? Why would you think he is lying? I’m a Manchester United player and I am happy to fulfil my contract. At United, I have many happy moments, we became champions for the 19th time. And after 19 comes 20. Right? To become a champion and top scorer does not mean we should stop here. I want more success. The team is great and there are lots of games for everyone.

NT: In an interview after last season I wished you 20 goals. Now that you will stay and fight, I wish you 30 for the 2011/2012 season at Manchester United.

DB: (Laughs). It’s true I wanted 20 goals. Obviously when a person believes in himself, things happen. One day I was talking with my friends. They were watching a film about positive thinking in the life of this man. I sat and watched it. I sat down and wrote on a piece of paper ‘I want to be top scorer for England, to take the “Golden Boot” and become champions.’ Well, I also wrote about the Champions League, but that did not happen. But I strongly believe that I will become a scorer and we will be champions. I wanted us to win the Champions League and we didn’t. But this does not reduce my enthusiasm for next year.

NT: How about your contract with Manchester United?

DB: There’s another year on it. And I’m excited to stay despite the disappointment suffered. The pain of Wembley could not stop me. It motivates me.

NT: So, Sir Alex has not come to tell you to leave?

DB: No, no. I have my contract and my desire is to stay. This is Manchester United. Competition for places often creates even more good performances on the pitch.

NT: Many Bulgarians have reacted emotionally after Wembley and their view is that you shouldn’t play for Manchester United any more…

DB: I’ve always aspired to higher goals. And my arrival in Manchester was the highest step for me. After Manchester United, everything is a step down. I’m a footballer for Manchester United and my desire is to stay to help win the 20th title.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 02, 2011, 11:18:04 AM
Berbatov eh goin' nowhere.  He go get over it and stay and play rel hard (and work on strengthening his mental and emotional character) and help allyuh win a 20th title and a 4th Cl.....sometime....in the.....future....beyond.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on June 05, 2011, 04:55:18 AM
Ryan Giggs maks John Terry look like a saint  :rotfl:

Ryan Giggs accused of '8-year affair with his BROTHER'S wife'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1394474/Ryan-Giggs-accused-8-year-affair-BROTHERS-wife.html#ixzz1OOixyVHc

Ryan Giggs has found himself hitting headlines once again, this time for an alleged extra-marital affair with his brother’s wife.

A Sunday tabloid has claimed that the Manchester United star embarked on an eight-year relationship with his 28-year-old sister-in-law Natasha.

Following his alleged affair with Big Brother star Imogen Thomas, who was gagged with a super-injunction, now more claims of betrayal have stunned his fans.

The News Of The World today claimed that the multi-millionaire footballer even spent the night with estate agent Natasha last month on April 9.

The tabloid also alleged that Giggs was seeing Natasha behind his wife Stacey’s back while she was pregnant.

The 37-year-old former BBC Sports Personality of the Year is said to have met his brother’s wife in a string of hotels, after first meeting Natasha when she was single in 2003.

A friend of Natasha told the newspaper: ‘I knew it was wrong. It’s the worst possible betrayal. I tried to end it but my relationship with Ryan was like an addiction. Anything he said, I did, I couldn’t say no.’

She continued that it was all on the footballer’s terms and he never told her he loved her.

‘Ryan was never romantic with me. It was all about sex’, the friend said.

Giggs is said to have met Natasha eight-years-ago in Manchester nightclub Sugar Lounge, when she was 20-years-old.

She had apparently recently split from the father of her first child and Giggs was engaged to his now wife Stacey.

Natasha’s friend revealed that he apparently bought her drinks and complimented her appearance before taking her number and allegedly asking her to meet him the following night.

The following night they went to the Living Room bar, where Natasha also met Ryan’s brother Rhodri.

The trio continued onto another club and then dined at a Chinese restaurant for a meal before all heading back to a friend’s house.

The source told the tabloid that this was where Natasha allegedly first slept with Ryan, but afterwards found out that the star had a pregnant girlfriend.

After confronting him about Stacey, Ryan allegedly asked Natasha if he could trust her and claims he didn’t mention his fiancée again.

But Giggs is claimed to have kept in touch with Natasha and regularly meet up with her to have sex.

But in May 2003, Natasha started dating his brother Rhodri and two months later Ryan apparently stopped contacting her.

They are said to have met up at a New Year party at his mother’s house though and Ryan apparently pretended to Stacey that he didn’t know Natasha.

After that they didn’t see each other for a year but Natasha’s friend claims Ryan contacted her once again to resume the alleged affair in the autumn of 2004.

Natasha’s friend said: ‘I then read that Stacey had kicked him out. And a friend told me that they thought Stacey had found a message on Ryan’s phone. I wondered if it was from me.’

Meanwhile, Rhodri proposed to Natasha in 2005 and Ryan was meant to be his best man.

Natasha fell pregnant to Rhodri later that year, but is claimed to have still slept with Ryan during a charity golf tournament in June 2006, according to the newspaper.

Natasha and Rhodri’s son was born in August 2006, while Stacey gave birth to Ryan’s second child Zach two months later.

In June 2008, rumours of the fling had apparently been spreading around Manchester and Natasha is said to have been confronted by one of Ryan’s ex-girlfriends with the question whether it was true.

But as the alleged affair didn’t come out, Rhodri and Natasha finally wed in 2010, but with another pal Will Mellor stepping in as best man instead of Ryan.

The allegations come after Ryan Gigg’s alleged affair with former Miss Wales Imogen Thomas surfaced last month.

The pair are said to have had a six month fling, which Imogen is still prohibited from discussing due to a super-injunction gagging her.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 05, 2011, 06:19:15 AM
Ryan Giggs maks John Terry look like a saint  :rotfl:

Ryan Giggs accused of '8-year affair with his BROTHER'S wife'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1394474/Ryan-Giggs-accused-8-year-affair-BROTHERS-wife.html#ixzz1OOixyVHc

Ryan Giggs has found himself hitting headlines once again, this time for an alleged extra-marital affair with his brother’s wife.

A Sunday tabloid has claimed that the Manchester United star embarked on an eight-year relationship with his 28-year-old sister-in-law Natasha.

Following his alleged affair with Big Brother star Imogen Thomas, who was gagged with a super-injunction, now more claims of betrayal have stunned his fans.

The News Of The World today claimed that the multi-millionaire footballer even spent the night with estate agent Natasha last month on April 9.

The tabloid also alleged that Giggs was seeing Natasha behind his wife Stacey’s back while she was pregnant.

The 37-year-old former BBC Sports Personality of the Year is said to have met his brother’s wife in a string of hotels, after first meeting Natasha when she was single in 2003.

A friend of Natasha told the newspaper: ‘I knew it was wrong. It’s the worst possible betrayal. I tried to end it but my relationship with Ryan was like an addiction. Anything he said, I did, I couldn’t say no.’

She continued that it was all on the footballer’s terms and he never told her he loved her.

‘Ryan was never romantic with me. It was all about sex’, the friend said.

Giggs is said to have met Natasha eight-years-ago in Manchester nightclub Sugar Lounge, when she was 20-years-old.

She had apparently recently split from the father of her first child and Giggs was engaged to his now wife Stacey.

Natasha’s friend revealed that he apparently bought her drinks and complimented her appearance before taking her number and allegedly asking her to meet him the following night.

The following night they went to the Living Room bar, where Natasha also met Ryan’s brother Rhodri.

The trio continued onto another club and then dined at a Chinese restaurant for a meal before all heading back to a friend’s house.

The source told the tabloid that this was where Natasha allegedly first slept with Ryan, but afterwards found out that the star had a pregnant girlfriend.

After confronting him about Stacey, Ryan allegedly asked Natasha if he could trust her and claims he didn’t mention his fiancée again.

But Giggs is claimed to have kept in touch with Natasha and regularly meet up with her to have sex.

But in May 2003, Natasha started dating his brother Rhodri and two months later Ryan apparently stopped contacting her.

They are said to have met up at a New Year party at his mother’s house though and Ryan apparently pretended to Stacey that he didn’t know Natasha.

After that they didn’t see each other for a year but Natasha’s friend claims Ryan contacted her once again to resume the alleged affair in the autumn of 2004.

Natasha’s friend said: ‘I then read that Stacey had kicked him out. And a friend told me that they thought Stacey had found a message on Ryan’s phone. I wondered if it was from me.’

Meanwhile, Rhodri proposed to Natasha in 2005 and Ryan was meant to be his best man.

Natasha fell pregnant to Rhodri later that year, but is claimed to have still slept with Ryan during a charity golf tournament in June 2006, according to the newspaper.

Natasha and Rhodri’s son was born in August 2006, while Stacey gave birth to Ryan’s second child Zach two months later.

In June 2008, rumours of the fling had apparently been spreading around Manchester and Natasha is said to have been confronted by one of Ryan’s ex-girlfriends with the question whether it was true.

But as the alleged affair didn’t come out, Rhodri and Natasha finally wed in 2010, but with another pal Will Mellor stepping in as best man instead of Ryan.

The allegations come after Ryan Gigg’s alleged affair with former Miss Wales Imogen Thomas surfaced last month.

The pair are said to have had a six month fling, which Imogen is still prohibited from discussing due to a super-injunction gagging her.



Wow, if this is true, it would give a whole new meaning to the expression "keeping it in the family."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 05, 2011, 10:18:18 AM
I was wonderin how ah 36+ yr old was keepin himself so fit to play top flight football, now ah understand  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 05, 2011, 10:33:50 AM
Giggsy was and is a player; I don't know why these fellas does get married if they know they still want to play around. Selfish and stupid; but also some of these women stupid to think they can change them because they chose to marry them. I am sure he was playing around on her before they got married, who knows what their relationship is about behind closed doors. Once his personal affairs start interfering with him performing on the field then he needs tuh buss it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 05, 2011, 12:27:12 PM
Stewps allyuh real gullable.. the man scandal with Imogen Thomas was always going to bring fresh allegations after.. look how many women came out and say they slept with Tiger after he get busted

He'll shag who he wants
He'll shag who he wants
That boy Giggsy
He'll shag who he wantsss
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on June 06, 2011, 05:12:27 AM
Giggsy was and is a player; I don't know why these fellas does get married if they know they still want to play around. Selfish and stupid; but also some of these women stupid to think they can change them because they chose to marry them. I am sure he was playing around on her before they got married, who knows what their relationship is about behind closed doors. Once his personal affairs start interfering with him performing on the field then he needs tuh buss it.

u studyin giggs i studyin d man brodda and d families involved. if it is really true den f giggs and f d brodda wife...i cant even laugh at this it sickenin...8 mfrickin years? na man
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on June 06, 2011, 09:29:29 AM
I laughing at all the Manchester men who was waxing lyrical and talking ah setta high horse bullshit about morals and ethics when John Terry was allegedly brushing Wayne Bridge EX girlfriend..

Oh that would only happen at Chelsea, but now their blue eye boy get make out yuh can't hear a peep from them now.

To expect anything different from footballer's is laughable.. Like ah tired tell men, when it come to football just stick to watching the game and done. All the extras about who club stand for what and who players is role models is bs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on June 06, 2011, 10:00:16 AM
SCUM!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 07, 2011, 08:41:38 AM
I laughing at all the Manchester men who was waxing lyrical and talking ah setta high horse bullshit about morals and ethics when John Terry was allegedly brushing Wayne Bridge EX girlfriend..

Oh that would only happen at Chelsea, but now their blue eye boy get make out yuh can't hear a peep from them now.

To expect anything different from footballer's is laughable.. Like ah tired tell men, when it come to football just stick to watching the game and done. All the extras about who club stand for what and who players is role models is bs.
:rotfl:
this typifies trini mentality, like one wrong is worse than another wrong so that jusitifes it, ha!

wrong is wrong ppl doh be waxing lyrical about morals, giggs behaviour is wrong, it  doesnt make him less of a great footballer! men like best, maradonna, adams  et al had terrible behaviour off the field

maradonna have no excuse he sill behaving like a jackass
best needed guidance and was failed or he failed himself
heck look at gazza's woes
tony adams was one of the lucky ones to mature and correct his ways but still doesnt excuse his poor conduct
but it does show the mettle of the man to come through it all and better himself

what giggs does now is on giggs shoulder and not for any of us to judge lest ye be judged with ah dread spanner from the speedy winger upstairs
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on June 07, 2011, 09:22:56 AM
Big Up Giggs, Big Up Terry...  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 07, 2011, 10:36:25 AM
Big Up Giggs, Big Up Terry...  :beermug:

making sure you keep that daft moniker going strong eh?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on June 08, 2011, 07:44:49 AM
Big Up Giggs, Big Up Terry...  :beermug:

making sure you keep that daft moniker going strong eh?

Unlike some, I have no interest in these players personal lives. All I care about is their 90+ mins on the field. I doh care about singing songs or writing poetry about them either. The only thing that I have been vocal on was "tough tackling" in the game. For me it's nice to support and be entertained, but EPL players values and virtues do not play a vital role in my existence.  :beermug: With that said Glory, Glory  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 08, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
United about to seal 16 million pound deal for Phil Jones...  I've been very impressed by him.. Match of the Day broke down his movement and reading of the game the other day when we drew 1-1 and he was tops

He is being used as a CB right now but I think we will convert him into an all action combative midfielder to compete with Fletch and Carrick for the role

He is only 19 so he is a long term plan but I think we made a great move there as his versatility and age (and Nationality- homegrown rules) is worth a relatively cheap 16 million.. and it's always nice nipping the Scousers for a player

haha all their fans were like Jones to do medical! signing today! .. smart lad chose United
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 08, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
Taxi for Johnny Evans?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 08, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
Taxi for Johnny Evans?

maybe.. Sunderland have bid for 3 United players today with the Henderson cash.. Gibson Brown and 1 unknown.. they think its either O'Shea or Evans

I cant see Fergie letting O'Shea go as he is good cover for RB, LB and CM or CDM

With Phil Jones in I can see Evans being allowed to leave

13 million for Brown Evans and Gibson .. has Christmas come early?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on June 08, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
He is only 19 so he is a long term plan but I think we made a great move there as his versatility and age (and Nationality- homegrown rules) is worth a relatively cheap 16 million.. and it's always nice nipping the Scousers for a player

haha all their fans were like Jones to do medical! signing today! .. smart lad chose United

I thought allyuh didn't want "potential" coach?  I tort allyuh wanted "instant impact" in midfield?  So allyuh pay basically de same amount fuh Jones (to convert him to midfield in your wishes) as we pay for Henderson, a proven Premiership midfielder.  "LOLS"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 08, 2011, 12:18:14 PM
Big Up Giggs, Big Up Terry...  :beermug:

making sure you keep that daft moniker going strong eh?

Unlike some, I have no interest in these players personal lives. All I care about is their 90+ mins on the field. I doh care about singing songs or writing poetry about them either. The only thing that I have been vocal on was "tough tackling" in the game. For me it's nice to support and be entertained, but EPL players values and virtues do not play a vital role in my existence.  :beermug: With that said Glory, Glory  :devil:

gotcha

and yes tough tackling its nto the toughness of the tackle but the line that is crossed between fair tough tackling and tackling that goes unpunished without the reffs stepping in these tackels will continue
there's a line when a timed clinical tackel gets the ball with authority and a tackle thats just wild and out of place in a professional game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 08, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
He is only 19 so he is a long term plan but I think we made a great move there as his versatility and age (and Nationality- homegrown rules) is worth a relatively cheap 16 million.. and it's always nice nipping the Scousers for a player

haha all their fans were like Jones to do medical! signing today! .. smart lad chose United

I thought allyuh didn't want "potential" coach?  I tort allyuh wanted "instant impact" in midfield?  So allyuh pay basically de same amount fuh Jones (to convert him to midfield in your wishes) as we pay for Henderson, a proven Premiership midfielder.  "LOLS"

we didnt buy the instant impact player yet.. we have De Gea and 2 more to go buddy boy... thats the difference.. yall buy a potential player as your impact player.. we had to buy Jones today because Arsenal and Pool bid for him and United wanted him done and dusted

If we dont buy anyone else I will hold my hand up but we are after big names now.. Jones is for the future the next 3 are going to be big hitters
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on June 08, 2011, 12:55:06 PM

we didnt buy the instant impact player yet.. we have De Gea and 2 more to go buddy boy... thats the difference.. yall buy a potential player as your impact player.. we had to buy Jones today because Arsenal and Pool bid for him and United wanted him done and dusted

If we dont buy anyone else I will hold my hand up but we are after big names now.. Jones is for the future the next 3 are going to be big hitters

Really?  You really think Henderson was our biggest off-season target... 'buddy boy', emphasis on the boy part?  We need another midfield player like we need another head, so Henderson by no means was the impact player we were looking for, not with the team needing width on either flank.  Your sour grapes shot at Liverpool belies the hypocrisy of ManU "fans" like yuhself.  Yuh even admitting it by saying that United buy Jones just to keep him from 'Pool and Arsenal.  Silly boy.  Did it ever occur to you that Liverpool only entered the stakes late to drive the price up knowing how much Ferguson wanted Jones? Lol... and you talk about us "taking the bait".  As I said, Jones was surplus to requirements with three young defenders already in our first team plans.

And btw... Henderson's price tag actually turns out to be £13m.  As I said... we'll see who gets the last laugh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 08, 2011, 01:16:10 PM

we didnt buy the instant impact player yet.. we have De Gea and 2 more to go buddy boy... thats the difference.. yall buy a potential player as your impact player.. we had to buy Jones today because Arsenal and Pool bid for him and United wanted him done and dusted

If we dont buy anyone else I will hold my hand up but we are after big names now.. Jones is for the future the next 3 are going to be big hitters

Really?  You really think Henderson was our biggest off-season target... 'buddy boy', emphasis on the boy part?  We need another midfield player like we need another head, so Henderson by no means was the impact player we were looking for, not with the team needing width on either flank.  Your sour grapes shot at Liverpool belies the hypocrisy of ManU "fans" like yuhself.  Yuh even admitting it by saying that United buy Jones just to keep him from 'Pool and Arsenal.  Silly boy.  Did it ever occur to you that Liverpool only entered the stakes late to drive the price up knowing how much Ferguson wanted Jones? Lol... and you talk about us "taking the bait".  As I said, Jones was surplus to requirements with three young defenders already in our first team plans.

And btw... Henderson's price tag actually turns out to be £13m.  As I said... we'll see who gets the last laugh.

bossman Pool wanted Jones for months.. United obviously were interested.. no person buys a player just to prevent him going to the next team

We offering him CL football as the current Champions .. that why Young going to sign with us soon and told Liverpool to f**k off

You have real talk for a man that finished 7th last season and 6th this season with no trophies ... Allyuh building a nice team but you need much better players than Henderson to win the league... we adding Jones to a champion winning team and we going to add some big names too... allyuh adding Henderson and f**king Wickham lol.. Kenny priority is a top 4 finish but you have to come better than that because Chelsea Arsenal and City gonna buy and their squads already stronger and better

We will always buy potential every summer window.. thats the Fergie way but this summer we need a couple ready made class acts.. I dont see why you coming with this like If It was about United..it was me laughing at Liverpool thinking that Henderson and the rest of young players allyuh linked with are the answer .. I just cant see it

We are Champions..I can LOLS all I want all summer long If we buy or dont buy.. LOLS X19
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 08, 2011, 01:25:58 PM
He is only 19 so he is a long term plan but I think we made a great move there as his versatility and age (and Nationality- homegrown rules) is worth a relatively cheap 16 million.. and it's always nice nipping the Scousers for a player

haha all their fans were like Jones to do medical! signing today! .. smart lad chose United

I thought allyuh didn't want "potential" coach?  I tort allyuh wanted "instant impact" in midfield?  So allyuh pay basically de same amount fuh Jones (to convert him to midfield in your wishes) as we pay for Henderson, a proven Premiership midfielder.  "LOLS"

we didnt buy the instant impact player yet.. we have De Gea and 2 more to go buddy boy... thats the difference.. yall buy a potential player as your impact player.. we had to buy Jones today because Arsenal and Pool bid for him and United wanted him done and dusted

If we dont buy anyone else I will hold my hand up but we are after big names now.. Jones is for the future the next 3 are going to be big hitters

Hey, hey doh be jumbin DeGea! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on June 08, 2011, 02:17:21 PM
bossman Pool wanted Jones for months.. United obviously were interested.. no person buys a player just to prevent him going to the next team

We offering him CL football as the current Champions .. that why Young going to sign with us soon and told Liverpool to f**k off

You have real talk for a man that finished 7th last season and 6th this season with no trophies ... Allyuh building a nice team but you need much better players than Henderson to win the league... we adding Jones to a champion winning team and we going to add some big names too... allyuh adding Henderson and f**king Wickham lol.. Kenny priority is a top 4 finish but you have to come better than that because Chelsea Arsenal and City gonna buy and their squads already stronger and better

We will always buy potential every summer window.. thats the Fergie way but this summer we need a couple ready made class acts.. I dont see why you coming with this like If It was about United..it was me laughing at Liverpool thinking that Henderson and the rest of young players allyuh linked with are the answer .. I just cant see it

We are Champions..I can LOLS all I want all summer long If we buy or dont buy.. LOLS X19

It was never about United... it's all about you you illiterate little hypocrite.  Now you want to couch the disagreement in terms of who finished where on the table and who have more trophies.  ManU is all that you have and all that you are... every argument or debate will have you falling back on merits that belong to your club and nothing at all to do with the fact that you are an illogical little twat with no life outside of Fergie's fart radius.  Not that I didn't know it already but it's still fun to hold the mirror to your face from time to time.

Now feel free to make up some nonsensical chant borrowed from the Red Devils messageboard and post it here if you like.  Keep pretending you're actually there with them in the terraces if it helps you compensate for the obvious void that is the rest of your nonexisting life.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 08, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
bossman Pool wanted Jones for months.. United obviously were interested.. no person buys a player just to prevent him going to the next team

We offering him CL football as the current Champions .. that why Young going to sign with us soon and told Liverpool to f**k off

You have real talk for a man that finished 7th last season and 6th this season with no trophies ... Allyuh building a nice team but you need much better players than Henderson to win the league... we adding Jones to a champion winning team and we going to add some big names too... allyuh adding Henderson and f**king Wickham lol.. Kenny priority is a top 4 finish but you have to come better than that because Chelsea Arsenal and City gonna buy and their squads already stronger and better

We will always buy potential every summer window.. thats the Fergie way but this summer we need a couple ready made class acts.. I dont see why you coming with this like If It was about United..it was me laughing at Liverpool thinking that Henderson and the rest of young players allyuh linked with are the answer .. I just cant see it

We are Champions..I can LOLS all I want all summer long If we buy or dont buy.. LOLS X19

It was never about United... it's all about you you illiterate little hypocrite.  Now you want to couch the disagreement in terms of who finished where on the table and who have more trophies.  ManU is all that you have and all that you are... every argument or debate will have you falling back on merits that belong to your club and nothing at all to do with the fact that you are an illogical little twat with no life outside of Fergie's fart radius.  Not that I didn't know it already but it's still fun to hold the mirror to your face from time to time.

Now feel free to make up some nonsensical chant borrowed from the Red Devils messageboard and post it here if you like.  Keep pretending you're actually there with them in the terraces if it helps you compensate for the obvious void that is the rest of your nonexisting life.

Word dawg.. all this from henderson and jones yes... You real dont understand banter my boy

I'll be the bigger man and not respond to immature personal attacks on a forum hiding behind a computer... ok big man?



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on June 08, 2011, 02:38:11 PM
Word dawg.. all this from henderson and jones yes... You real dont understand banter my boy

I'll be the bigger man and not respond to immature personal attacks on a forum hiding behind a computer... ok big man?





This is rich, lol. 

Yes li'l fella, pretend, if it makes you feel better that you are the "bigger man"... word dawg.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 08, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
He is only 19 so he is a long term plan but I think we made a great move there as his versatility and age (and Nationality- homegrown rules) is worth a relatively cheap 16 million.. and it's always nice nipping the Scousers for a player

haha all their fans were like Jones to do medical! signing today! .. smart lad chose United

I thought allyuh didn't want "potential" coach?  I tort allyuh wanted "instant impact" in midfield?  So allyuh pay basically de same amount fuh Jones (to convert him to midfield in your wishes) as we pay for Henderson, a proven Premiership midfielder.  "LOLS"

Bakes, yuh take meh post.  Now coming to hit dem Man U men with that.  Rolling they eyes over what we pay for a young, creative midfielder, but they bascially pay the same for a young, up-and-coming defender. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on June 08, 2011, 10:54:32 PM
Who is Phil Jones?

He related to Philbert?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on June 11, 2011, 12:02:16 PM
Who is Phil Jones?

He related to Philbert?

Might be he self....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 13, 2011, 10:47:03 AM
Phil Jones deal done and dusted for 16 million pounds with 4 million in add ons over the next few years.

Ashley Young(7-10 days) and De Gea(July 1st) are in place

over 2 months to find 1 or 2 midfield gems .. Nasri and Modric are the names on top of the rumour mill...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 13, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
you can have nasri for 25mil plus thank you very much

oh wait... you are in the same league as us...sorry

thanks but no thanks, if wenger lets him go to you lot i hope he's following nasri out the door
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 13, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
Hope we sign Sanchez instead of Ashley Young.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 13, 2011, 06:03:38 PM
Hope we sign Sanchez instead of Ashley Young.

Ashley Young is 99% done... Sanchez will be off to either Barca/City/Inter

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on June 13, 2011, 06:25:23 PM
Ashley to Manu!!!!! dat nice!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WarriorSaint on June 13, 2011, 06:30:39 PM
Hope we sign Sanchez instead of Ashley Young.

I like Sanchez too but I think he is overpriced. And he isn't tested in the epl, it's important especially for the money they're calling. Young is the better option right now for us IMO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 13, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Hope we sign Sanchez instead of Ashley Young.

I like Sanchez too but I think he is overpriced. And he isn't tested in the epl, it's important especially for the money they're calling. Young is the better option right now for us IMO

35+ million pounds Udinese want and with City and Barca in the game they are probably offering close to 200k a week salary so United even though interested have been priced out ..

Fergie's transfer strategy has been smart with De Gea and Young and potentially Nasri.. all have 1 year on their contract left.. their clubs are in no position to hike up prices etc as the player can ride out the year then leave for free.. Ashley Young's fee is reported to be 15 million pounds which is relatively low in today's market and Nasri is mentioned around the 12-15 mark too.. Nasri is 2 years younger than Modric who Spurs want 35 for(which he is definitely worth IMO )

I still think 20-25 million plus Brown and O'Shea would do the trick to land Luka ... He is still the priority , Nasri is the backup plan , but a good backup plan to have.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: WarriorSaint on June 13, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
Hope we sign Sanchez instead of Ashley Young.

I like Sanchez too but I think he is overpriced. And he isn't tested in the epl, it's important especially for the money they're calling. Young is the better option right now for us IMO

35+ million pounds Udinese want and with City and Barca in the game they are probably offering close to 200k a week salary so United even though interested have been priced out ..

Fergie's transfer strategy has been smart with De Gea and Young and potentially Nasri.. all have 1 year on their contract left.. their clubs are in no position to hike up prices etc as the player can ride out the year then leave for free.. Ashley Young's fee is reported to be 15 million pounds which is relatively low in today's market and Nasri is mentioned around the 12-15 mark too.. Nasri is 2 years younger than Modric who Spurs want 35 for(which he is definitely worth IMO )

I still think 20-25 million plus Brown and O'Shea would do the trick to land Luka ... He is still the priority , Nasri is the backup plan , but a good backup plan to have.


THIS^^^^^^ I agree I would def prefer to have Luka over Nasri but I can't deny Nasri's talent. I'm not sure bout that Brown and O'shea deal, with sunderland asking and Gibson seeming to be on board with the triple sale. I'm not sure which midfielder we would get but I'm sure if its down to these two it will happen late in the season, maybe even into next season.
Title: Manchester United vs Barcelona, RFK Stadium.
Post by: Daft Trini on June 15, 2011, 06:13:09 AM
Mods yuh could take it down after the deal has expired.

I know some ah all yuh message meh fuh links or hookups for the game.

Fair deal.
http://livingsocial.com/deals/57373?ref=conf-jp&rpi=15858871
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 16, 2011, 09:41:19 AM
No Nasri for you!  :challenge:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 23, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Ashley Young deal done.. 15 million pounds

Boom Bang

Onto the next one.. 2 months to get Modric

De Gea July 1st
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 29, 2011, 06:07:54 AM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on June 29, 2011, 06:18:04 AM
Get to meet the Team when they are in DC, will post pics... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 29, 2011, 08:25:04 AM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 29, 2011, 07:47:27 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................

Dis man talking and transfer window ent even open in continental Europe yet.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 29, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.

Man U probably need 2 since Giggs not going to be there too much longer and you would need a walk on and an understudy. Unless you think Carrick can do it but I have my doubts.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on June 29, 2011, 08:15:06 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.

Don't get y'all Chelsea already sign Torres, think that was just about the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 29, 2011, 08:16:49 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.

Man U probably need 2 since Giggs not going to be there too much longer and you would need a walk on and an understudy. Unless you think Carrick can do it but I have my doubts.

I think Cleverly could play a role in midfield, but we need a creative midfielder who is also experienced. Carrick doesn't have the skills to play that role against wolrd class sides/midfields . He is better at sheilding the back four. but again does a better job of doing so when playing against lesser opponents.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 29, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.

Don't get y'all Chelsea already sign Torres, think that was just about the end of the season.

Yeah but Torres actually needs playmakers around him to assist his productivity. Chelsea needs wingers as well as a creative midfielder. Lampard gone tru.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 29, 2011, 08:24:26 PM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................


That's nice but lets wait and see if we sign the creative midfielder we need. Plus let's hope none of those sides actually sign a world class player than can make them better next season.

Man U probably need 2 since Giggs not going to be there too much longer and you would need a walk on and an understudy. Unless you think Carrick can do it but I have my doubts.

I think Cleverly could play a role in midfield, but we need a creative midfielder who is also experienced. Carrick doesn't have the skills to play that role against wolrd class sides/midfields . He is better at sheilding the back four. but again does a better job of doing so when playing against lesser opponents.

Have only seen Cleverly play once and he didn't make an impression. Maybe he can be the understudy. So one big name creator then.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 30, 2011, 03:17:51 AM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................

Dis man talking and transfer window ent even open in continental Europe yet.  :rotfl:

...not to mention that two weeks ago he was opining that neither De Gea nor Stekelenburg "impressed" him and his astronomical "we don't care about pretty football" (nemanja vidic voice) manu standards. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 30, 2011, 06:43:01 AM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................

Dis man talking and transfer window ent even open in continental Europe yet.  :rotfl:

...not to mention that two weeks ago he was opining that neither De Gea nor Stekelenburg "impressed" him and his astronomical "we don't care about pretty football" (nemanja vidic voice) manu standards. 
Doh fight him down. De man have entertainment value.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 30, 2011, 06:53:13 AM
De Gea in.. 5 year contract

Welcome Kiddo

Meanwhile at Arsenal and Chelsea..................

Dis man talking and transfer window ent even open in continental Europe yet.  :rotfl:

...not to mention that two weeks ago he was opining that neither De Gea nor Stekelenburg "impressed" him and his astronomical "we don't care about pretty football" (nemanja vidic voice) manu standards. 
Doh fight him down. De man have entertainment value.


probably has a song that goes...

i am the small mag
i will say what i want say what i want say what i want
i am the small mag
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 30, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
Rossi to Barca transfer not happenning according to his agent. I wouldn't mind him returning to United as part of a deal for Berba or Kiko.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 07, 2011, 11:58:35 AM
O'Shea and Brown sold to Sunderland...  loyal servants but time to move on.. thanks for the contribution and good luck in the future

Fergie's rebuilding again..Be warned
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on July 07, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
O'Shea and Brown sold to Sunderland...  loyal servants but time to move on.. thanks for the contribution and good luck in the future

Fergie's rebuilding again..Be warned


Sad news. Wasn't always an O'shea fan but he was a loyal servant and in truth a good utility player. Same goes for "Orange". Scoring against 'pool at the Kop end, nutmegging Figo; all good memories.   Gibson should be in this deal as well. Not so many tears for that one though...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on July 07, 2011, 02:10:48 PM
O'Shea and Brown sold to Sunderland...  loyal servants but time to move on.. thanks for the contribution and good luck in the future

Fergie's rebuilding again..Be warned


Sad news. Wasn't always an O'shea fan but he was a loyal servant and in truth a good utility player. Same goes for "Orange". Scoring against 'pool at the Kop end, nutmegging Figo; all good memories.   Gibson should be in this deal as well. Not so many tears for that one though...

Man U seem to be making some boss moves this off season, both in and out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on July 08, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
O'Shea and Brown sold to Sunderland...  loyal servants but time to move on.. thanks for the contribution and good luck in the future

Fergie's rebuilding again..Be warned


Sad news. Wasn't always an O'shea fan but he was a loyal servant and in truth a good utility player. Same goes for "Orange". Scoring against 'pool at the Kop end, nutmegging Figo; all good memories.   Gibson should be in this deal as well. Not so many tears for that one though...

Man U seem to be making some boss moves this off season, both in and out.

So far so good, but I think activity may be at an end. The press is speculating about Sneijder and Nasri, but I don't think Fergie was ever going for these guys. Maybe Nasri (who I don't fancy), but I always thought Sneijder was a non-starter. I think/hope the young players (Morrison, Cleverly, Welbeck, Tunicliffe) will get a chance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 08, 2011, 12:47:53 PM
O'Shea and Brown sold to Sunderland...  loyal servants but time to move on.. thanks for the contribution and good luck in the future

Fergie's rebuilding again..Be warned


Sad news. Wasn't always an O'shea fan but he was a loyal servant and in truth a good utility player. Same goes for "Orange". Scoring against 'pool at the Kop end, nutmegging Figo; all good memories.   Gibson should be in this deal as well. Not so many tears for that one though...

Man U seem to be making some boss moves this off season, both in and out.

So far so good, but I think activity may be at an end. The press is speculating about Sneijder and Nasri, but I don't think Fergie was ever going for these guys. Maybe Nasri (who I don't fancy), but I always thought Sneijder was a non-starter. I think/hope the young players (Morrison, Cleverly, Welbeck, Tunicliffe) will get a chance.

Cant see that... we need a creative CM

Hargo, Scholes, Gibbo out... Cleverley and now Giggs as a CM in .. missing 1

De Gea/Lindergaard/Amos

Rafael/Fabio
Rio/Smalling
Vida/Jones
Evra/Evans

Nani/Valencia
Carrick/Fletcher/Ando
Giggs/Cleverley
Young/Park

Rooney/Owen
Hernadez/Berba/ Welbeck

Out of those 5 CM's.. 2 are defensive, Anderson provides energy but not a good passer or goalscorer, Giggs is 37 and we cant depend on him everygame.. Cleverley will have his 1st full season at United

A special CM is missing.. one that can be the heartbeat and link play with the wingers and strikers

Modric is the ideal choice and Nasri would be a good back up...Sneijder is 27 and very expensive and I have doubt about him playing CM in a 4-4-2.. He generally plays behind the striker but we are a 4-4-2 team due to Fergie's attack on the wings style so Modric would be the right man for the job as he plays CM in a 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-2 for Spurs

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 20, 2011, 08:01:40 PM
UTD VS Sounders  :duel: on FSC now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on July 20, 2011, 08:10:38 PM
UTD VS Sounders  :duel: on FSC now

Hey why Man Utd wearing Inter kit ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on July 20, 2011, 08:23:36 PM
UTD VS Sounders  :duel: on FSC now

Hey why Man Utd wearing Inter kit ???

For allyuh to spen more money. 1-0 United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on July 20, 2011, 09:45:05 PM
6-0 United?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 20, 2011, 11:43:15 PM
Just got back from my first Man.U game, although it was not much of a challenge, it was an experience just to see my favorite team. I took my baby boy and he too was having a ball, clapping and stuff. Apart from my kids birth, this is my second best experience in life. We had some nice seats, unfortunately I forgot my camera at home, so I had to use my Iphone camera.

Giggs controlled a ball like it was a feather he just trap....Rooney is just a beast and Obertan has some nice touches, don't understand why he does not get more playing time. Young look like he will do some damage on that wing..... Nani is Nani lol he's still my player.... Ferdinand and Vidic is something to see, these guys are true grit defenders...Evra is just class. Sounders could not make a note, well for a couple of chances.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on July 21, 2011, 05:00:15 AM
Cant see that... we need a creative CM

Hargo, Scholes, Gibbo out... Cleverley and now Giggs as a CM in .. missing 1

De Gea/Lindergaard/Amos

Rafael/Fabio
Rio/Smalling
Vida/Jones
Evra/Evans

Nani/Valencia
Carrick/Fletcher/Ando
Giggs/Cleverley
Young/Park

Rooney/Owen
Hernadez/Berba/ Welbeck

Out of those 5 CM's.. 2 are defensive, Anderson provides energy but not a good passer or goalscorer, Giggs is 37 and we cant depend on him everygame.. Cleverley will have his 1st full season at United

A special CM is missing.. one that can be the heartbeat and link play with the wingers and strikers

Modric is the ideal choice and Nasri would be a good back up...Sneijder is 27 and very expensive and I have doubt about him playing CM in a 4-4-2.. He generally plays behind the striker but we are a 4-4-2 team due to Fergie's attack on the wings style so Modric would be the right man for the job as he plays CM in a 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-2 for Spurs

United does not NEED another player, would be nice to have but the squad is big enough as it is. Anderson can pass and this will be a make or break season for him. He really was a different type of player at Porto. Showed very good touches at the end of last season and Anderson/Giggs will hold down one spot, Carrick/Fletcher the other.

They done spend 50M without getting much back from sales. Anderson coast almost 20 M 4 years ago time to benefit from the investment. The squad looks good. Deep, and with lots of versatile players. Most importantly each player brings something different and can complement the players they in competition with e.g. Fletcher could play in place of Carrick but could also play alongside him, Likewise Berbatov/Chicarito, Nani/Young/Valencia /Park etc.

Is not like other clubs where they can't even get two strikers to play together.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on July 21, 2011, 07:18:04 AM
My wife organize some tix for me to see them train in DC.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 21, 2011, 07:35:01 AM
I love Anderson-and this is his first off season where he is not recovering from an injury. He has not been fit coming into the seasons but he appears to be in really good physical condition in this off season. If he can stay healthy and get a good run in the side I think he can contribute as an attacking midfielder. I also like that Fergie gives him that freedom to create when he is in the side. I don't like when he tries to harness his attacking instincts by playing him in front of the backline. I do think we need a more creative midfielder. Carrick and Anderson may be good against the mediocre sides,  but I think we need more against the cream of the crop in Europe to open up those sides. Sides with really good midfields will always give us problems until we add another quality midfielder. 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on July 21, 2011, 08:02:56 AM
I love Anderson-and this is his first off season where he is not recovering from an injury. He has not been fit coming into the seasons but he appears to be in really good physical condition in this off season. If he can stay healthy and get a good run in the side I think he can contribute as an attacking midfielder. I also like that Fergie gives him that freedom to create when he is in the side. I don't like when he tries to harness his attacking instincts by playing him in front of the backline. I do think we need a more creative midfielder. Carrick and Anderson may be good against the mediocre sides,  but I think we need more against the cream of the crop in Europe to open up those sides. Sides with really good midfields will always give us problems until we add another quality midfielder. 

Anderson as a creative middie? I'm not really feeling that - not techincal enough, not tricky enough, not visionary enough, and does not have an eye for goal.  I think Anderson hasn't yet fulfiled his potential (agree with you there), but I see him more as an athletic workhorse who can play a Park Ji Sung type of role if given the confidence... maybe I'm totally misreading him. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 21, 2011, 08:26:50 AM
I love Anderson-and this is his first off season where he is not recovering from an injury. He has not been fit coming into the seasons but he appears to be in really good physical condition in this off season. If he can stay healthy and get a good run in the side I think he can contribute as an attacking midfielder. I also like that Fergie gives him that freedom to create when he is in the side. I don't like when he tries to harness his attacking instincts by playing him in front of the backline. I do think we need a more creative midfielder. Carrick and Anderson may be good against the mediocre sides,  but I think we need more against the cream of the crop in Europe to open up those sides. Sides with really good midfields will always give us problems until we add another quality midfielder. 

Anderson as a creative middie? I'm not really feeling that - not techincal enough, not tricky enough, not visionary enough, and does not have an eye for goal.  I think Anderson hasn't yet fulfiled his potential (agree with you there), but I see him more as an athletic workhorse who can play a Park Ji Sung type of role if given the confidence... maybe I'm totally misreading him. 

He has shown glimpses of being able to spring plays and control midfield, which makes me believe he has the potential to build on those abilities/performaces. I disagree about him not being visionary enough; I think he can spot a pass but he lacks the consistency to make the passes when needed. And I do agree that his technique needs to improve. He has admitted that his games has changed after he broke his foot and needs to improve his physical conditioning.  Ials othink he needs to improve his work ethic off the field. I agree he is an athletic workhorse but with more flair to his game than a Ji Sung. I don't think he is as limited but I am interested to see how it plays out when he gets a consistent run and stays healthy. I still stand by my opinion that he will be a better midfeilder than Obi Mikel- no offense to Chow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 23, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
Can' wait tuh see De Gea in action- game  on ESPN 2 @ 5pm.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on July 25, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
As I suspected; Fergie is done with transfer business. He did say he wanted three players and three players have come in... Shame really...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/25/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson/print

Sir Alex Ferguson does not expect to make further signings this summer

• Manchester United manager admits missing out on targets
• 'At this moment, I can't see another addition'


Sir Alex Ferguson doubts whether he will sign any more players before Manchester United face their neighbours in the Community Shield at Wembley next month after admitting that the player he really wants is "not available".

The United manager has signed three players this summer but an extensive search for a playmaker to replace Paul Scholes has so far proved to be a failure.

It is anticipated that if Luka Modric and Samir Nasri leave Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal respectively, they will head to clubs other than United and a deal to bring the Dutch midfielder Wesley Sneijder to Old Trafford from Internazionale has floundered due to the extreme costs involved.

Ferguson is therefore preparing with the squad he has now for a Community Shield match with a difference as it pitches United against their Manchester rivals, City, who won the FA Cup last season to end a 35-year trophy drought.

"It is not a normal Community Shield for Manchester United," said Ferguson. "It is addressing our noisy neighbours again. It will be an interesting match."

It is a phrase Ferguson first used following United's dramatic derby triumph over City at Old Trafford in September 2009, when Michael Owen scored the winner in a 4-3 victory. City have since made even further inroads on United's territory, with Ferguson admitting the prospect of further signings is slim. "We lost five players in their 30s this summer. That helped finance the three younger players – Ashley Young, Phil Jones and David de Gea – I have brought to the club.

"At this moment, I can't see another addition. The type of player we might have been looking for is not available. I am happy with the players I have got at this moment in time."

Ferguson also revealed that Javier Hernández, who has finally made his eagerly awaited appearance on tour following a triumphant Gold Cup campaign with Mexico, is unlikely to be involved in the match with the MLS All‑Stars at Red Bull Arena on Wednesday. Hernández only began training on Monday and the United manager does not want to push him too hard.

"He has had a month's holiday, which he needed after the Gold Cup," said Ferguson. "It was a long season and he played in the World Cup as well, so he has not had a lot of rest in the last year. The most important thing for us is to give him some proper training before we even consider him for the first team."

Hernández's arrival has been welcomed by fans, who on United's three stops so far have been disappointed by the Mexican's absence. It is a reflection of the impact he has made since joining the club 12 months ago, although he insists his life has not changed despite the obvious adulation.

"I feel the same," he said. "I am playing for the best team in the world. The only thing that has changed in the last 12 months is that I have played a lot of games. All I have done is try to improve. That is the only thing on my mind.

"This whole move has been a dream come true for me. The key has probably been my boss and my team-mates. It means a lot to me to be part of Manchester United. All the extra things are just that, extra things. To be part of this team is wonderful."


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 27, 2011, 05:46:49 PM
8:30 pm EST - MLS all stars vs UTD  :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on July 28, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
I only saw part of the MLS All Star game but that MLS #4 Olave look real good. Pity he got himself injured. Before that I say he have to check his pockets when he take his pants to dry clean since Rooney might still be in them. Doh really follow MLS but he impress me. Other than that Beckham hit some excellent long passes and Henry look like he has lost some quality but not much. He collect a Beckham pass that 5 years ago he woulda buss de net with.

I think the 4-0 scoreline was (a little) harsh for MLS but the organisation and technical superiority of Man United was clear. Rooney is showing himself to be a top class playmaker/second striker. And Berbatov is just a boss. I feel real sorry for that man but he willing to let the CL final slide by all accounts.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 28, 2011, 05:24:16 PM
Anderson getting a lot of run this preseason and has looked impressive-he even scored with his right foot. Fingers cross he stays fit and maintains form for the upcoming season. Players looking hungry and running hard during this preseason good to see

Also Phil jones is ahell of an athlete- and seems very versatile!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on July 30, 2011, 08:48:10 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284853_819250887505_1416308_39928463_2766414_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 30, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
United 2 Barca 1 ft

I in Barbados and like 15 of us went and take it in at Bubbas.. real bess vybe...

Cleverley looked real good today..I rate him so highly but I glad everyone saw how good he could be
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on July 31, 2011, 06:52:11 AM
Will post some of the pics of the training, match and from the hotel....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 31, 2011, 09:33:16 AM
I am really excited about the talented young players in this team and what they can contribute to this team continuing to be successful in the upcoming season and seasons to come. I believe that United have the best talent in the league. I also believe out toughest challenge will be in Europe.

Nani for player of the year!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on August 01, 2011, 11:58:04 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14354462.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14354462.stm)

FYI

hatrick in forst 25min. these kids are from quatar, they are certainly going to be old enough when the world cup comes around to thier country, alarm bells should be ringing. some awesome control and tricks had the manu youth's twisted, a few lucky bounces but non the less certainly stronger, fitter, more skilful, hungrier and faster than the "english" manu squad
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 01, 2011, 12:13:21 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14354462.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14354462.stm)

FYI

hatrick in forst 25min. these kids are from quatar, they are certainly going to be old enough when the world cup comes around to thier country, alarm bells should be ringing. some awesome control and tricks had the manu youth's twisted, a few lucky bounces but non the less certainly stronger, fitter, more skilful, hungrier and faster than the "english" manu squad

That #5 and #3 look just like Rio and Vidic and defending like them too. See that 1st goal.  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 01, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267383_819895825045_1416308_39943705_8034257_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198668_819895201295_1416308_39943687_7136563_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283929_819899817045_1416308_39943811_2776260_n.jpg)

Giggs....

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284338_819899362955_1416308_39943797_3078838_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 05, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
I thought this was funny-posted by a United hator on a forum.  :devil: ;D

'United have just released their new away kit for the 2011/2012 season.
Black shirt
Black shorts
Whistle'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 05, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
york playing for cosmos on fsc!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 05, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
golazo!! scholes  :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on August 05, 2011, 12:48:29 PM
york playing for cosmos on fsc!

nick webster jizzing in his pants describing yorkie's first touch
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2011, 01:04:58 PM
Yorke looking good, them fellahs backing off him because his touches on point. Man like Butt and the youthmen cosmo players dragging he stones.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 05, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
wow our youth players looking rel good. Plenty depth i like it  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 06, 2011, 09:25:28 AM
Yorke's touch was silky.  Good run-out by him.  I wonder if he had to get fit or if he just nathurally in shape?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 06, 2011, 09:27:44 AM
Yorke's touch was silky.  Good run-out by him.  I wonder if he had to get fit or if he just nathurally in shape?

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 07:33:39 AM
City vs Utd - FSC now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2011, 07:40:13 AM
Lescott looking like he still on vacation
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
ashley young looking d real deal. Valencia , Young , Nani , Anderdon . good times!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 08:12:01 AM
Goal against the run of play.  De Gea shoulda come for that...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 07, 2011, 08:13:05 AM
Lescott looking like he still on vacation

The plane just landed at wembly  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 07, 2011, 08:19:02 AM
Shot boi!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
fork!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 07, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
Goal against the run of play.  De Gea shoulda come for that...

Kicker watch how tight the ManU retreating line was, no way a keeper was getting through that to get there first. Rio was caught on the wrong side, plain and simple .
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 08:24:05 AM
Another question mark for the keeper? perhaps?...

In all fairness it looked similar to Messi's shot that beat VDS in the CL final - not far away from the keeper but the power, bend and dip was enough...

2-0 flatters Man City..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 08:25:42 AM

Kicker watch how tight the ManU retreating line was, no way a keeper was getting through that to get there first. Rio was caught on the wrong side, plain and simple .

True...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 07, 2011, 08:26:57 AM
Evra again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 08:29:39 AM
Evra again.

Teams always run that play against Evra. Cut inside and they slide the ball in that direction. I have no idea where his head does be sometimes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 08:31:18 AM
De Gea will hold his own. Carrick is the friggin problem if you ask me. He love the sideways and backwards pass-the man know how tuh kill a run.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 08:31:35 AM
Lescott looking like he still on vacation

Like he hear yuh....

Another question mark for the keeper? perhaps?...

In all fairness it looked similar to Messi's shot that beat VDS in the CL final - not far away from the keeper but the power, bend and dip was enough...

2-0 flatters Man City..



He was slow to react to the shot is what the issue might be....but it's quite possible that the pace may have fooled him just as much as, if not more than, the movement.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 08:32:44 AM
 :-\ come on reds!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 08:36:27 AM
Keeper was too slow to react, like he wasn't expecting Dzeko to leggo de lion..  He will be telling himself he coulda done better with that.

First goal too, it was a great delivery into the box.. But even if De Gea wasn't going to get there he could still come hard enough he might have put off Lescott.

He will have to learn to be aggressive on aerial balls in this league and he will have to learn fast.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 08:38:10 AM
Yaya look like he back to his pre pregnancy weight!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on August 07, 2011, 08:42:24 AM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 08:43:50 AM
Youthful side on the field now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 08:45:20 AM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2011, 08:46:16 AM
Lescott looking like he still on vacation

The plane just landed at wembly  ;D

Big Up!

He still at the baggage carousel
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on August 07, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
i cyar even type or spell properly :rotfl:

thanks eh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Youth will be served! Carrick bench for you!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 08:51:44 AM
2-2 bess passing  8)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 07, 2011, 08:52:24 AM
What a freaking goal by ManU. :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 08:55:30 AM
Men being harsh on d manu 'keeper on de first goal. Dinho. He will do just finme on the aerial balls as he proved on the cross he came out to collect. Early on....what we does have to remember (and give credit for) is the quality of the ball played into the box. A ball that is whipped into the box (in all kinda direction with in/outswing) will give GK's and defences far more trouble than the ones floated in. Manu's 1st goal is a prime example, too. Anytime you have defenders back-pedalling and you put the ball just where the 'keeper may struggle to get to it, is problems fuh everybody.  2-2. Game on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 08:59:05 AM
Lescott looking like he still on vacation

The plane just landed at wembly  ;D

Big Up!

He still at the baggage carousel

After that poor play on manu first goal (he just stopped completely!) I find you giving him credit to assume he e. Ven come off de plane.....maybe he eh even ketch de flight!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:00:15 AM
Men being harsh on d manu 'keeper on de first goal. Dinho. He will do just finme on the aerial balls as he proved on the cross he came out to collect. Early on....what we does have to remember (and give credit for) is the quality of the ball played into the box. A ball that is whipped into the box (in all kinda direction with in/outswing) will give GK's and defences far more trouble than the ones floated in. Manu's 1st goal is a prime example, too. Anytime you have defenders back-pedalling and you put the ball just where the 'keeper may struggle to get to it, is problems fuh everybody.  2-2. Game on.

True that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Real impressed by the play of Young and Wellbeck... all preseason.  Naive goalkeeping by De Gea on that second goal... but great response by Utd to climb back.  That Nani goal look like Arsenal draw it up.  City need to get Silva more involved.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 09:12:36 AM
Maybe the ball they using in the EPL different than the one De Gea was use to in La Liga. Love how hungry and versatile these young players are for United. Should be a fun season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:12:58 AM
Cleverley is the man change this game for Man U.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:13:31 AM
Real impressed by the play of Young and Wellbeck... all preseason.  Naive goalkeeping by De Gea on that second goal... but great response by Utd to climb back.  That Nani goal look like Arsenal draw it up.  City need to get Silva more involved.

Silva moving rel Lazy. Mancini should have taken him off instead. I don't think Mancinin ready, they should be comfortable in this game after having been 2-0 up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:15:16 AM
Cleverley is the man change this game for Man U.

No way. Can't see where you all seeing that he is aplayer. He looking okay now because he ManCity eh have any midfield. But he really eh doing anything. Right now Anderson bossing the middle more than anyone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
Smalling ripping up  :rotfl: he rel improve dread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 09:25:47 AM
Anderson is my M.O.M...

The guy has barely put a foot wrong today. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 09:27:07 AM
City boy... them men master snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:27:51 AM
Geezanages Kompany..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
hahaha fu city  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on August 07, 2011, 09:28:53 AM
Nani, big big player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:29:52 AM
What a way to start the season. 4 minutes added on time from where?  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 09:30:15 AM
I love me some Nani! EPL player  of the year for this new season-calling it now! Youth will be served. I love when we play uptempo and speed-none of this plodding/deliberate shite we have been playing the past seasons after Ronaldo left!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2011, 09:30:24 AM
What a way to start the season. 4 minutes added on time from where?  :devil:

Steups
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 09:31:04 AM
What a way to start the season. 4 minutes added on time from where?  :devil:

Yes Elan in in mid season form! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 09:31:20 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:33:29 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Exactly, De Jong should have came in to see that ball away. If he missed then He had cover for the 2nd tackle from Kompany.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:34:26 AM
What a way to start the season. 4 minutes added on time from where?  :devil:

Yes Elan in in mid season form! :devil:

 ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 09:35:13 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Clichy yuh mean... just rewind and watch the play again, Clichy did nothing to help out his fellow defender there, he was jogging back casually assuming Kompany would always come for it.  Lack of familiarity probably factored in there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on August 07, 2011, 09:35:27 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.
Nah man he had a good game. You forget the finish on the first goal ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.
Nah man he had a good game. You forget the finish on the first goal ?

Yeah he had a good game, but nobody eh say nutten bout him until the last goal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 07, 2011, 09:37:35 AM
clichy not de jong
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 09:38:31 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.

Who Chelski have better or as good as Nani? Since yuh find he gettin rate up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 09:44:09 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Clichy yuh mean... just rewind and watch the play again, Clichy did nothing to help out his fellow defender there, he was jogging back casually assuming Kompany would always come for it.  Lack of familiarity probably factored in there.

Clichy yeah... Kompany will take the fall, but I eh really blame him on that one. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
Dat ball was Kompany's ball to lose and he lost it. He  was supposed to BOOTS de HELL outta dat ball, no matter what any other defender around him was or wasn't doing. He seemed to take it for granted that nani was going to pull up and not come hard. Is Balotelli fault...his "casual" play is spreading in the team.
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.

Who Chelski have better or as good as Nani? Since yuh find he gettin rate up.

Nani been doing real good especially in light of how Man Utd fans had waste him down as not being a good enough replacement for CR. I think right now he is more dynamic than CR was when he left Man Utd. However he will have a long season if Smalling is behind him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on August 07, 2011, 09:47:42 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.
Nah man he had a good game. You forget the finish on the first goal ?

Yeah he had a good game, but nobody eh say nutten bout him until the last goal.
I always like his ethic and he's one of the most skillful men in that league. Is a real shame how he had to come on and get exposed in the final against Messi.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 07, 2011, 09:50:22 AM
Dat ball was Kompany's ball to lose and he lost it. He  was supposed to BOOTS de HELL outta dat ball, no matter what any other defender around him was or wasn't doing. He seemed to take it for granted that nani was going to pull up and not come hard. Is Balotelli fault...his "casual" play is spreading in the team.
 

Where would he boot it? When he realised that Clichy eh coming to win that ball he had no way to boot that ball other than into Nani. He could have tackled stronger, but the way the whistle been blowing it may have ended up being a red card. 1v2 in the back is always dangerous.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 07, 2011, 09:58:35 AM
Geezanages Kompany..

I find De Jong hang him out tuh dry there....

Yeah communication breakdown which is why Kompany supposed to put his hoof through the ball.

Hear these man u people rating up Nani for a frankoment gift goal nuh... Brownsugar was scoring that steups.

New season officially start.

Who Chelski have better or as good as Nani? Since yuh find he gettin rate up.

Nani been doing real good especially in light of how Man Utd fans had waste him down as not being a good enough replacement for CR. I think right now he is more dynamic than CR was when he left Man Utd. However he will have a long season if Smalling is behind him.

Actually Nani's decision making has been questioned, it is oposition fans that were calling him Cr lite or wanna be. I think once he realized what he needed to do to be successful on the field he became more effective. The game against Arsenal when he beet Nasir and Clichy in the corner and scored was a turnning point for him. I have said he needs to start in front of Valencia and Young. He is the most skillful player on the side and now he is making better choices. He also works hard when he doesn't have the ball which Ronaldo doesn't do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 10:02:46 AM
Dat ball was Kompany's ball to lose and he lost it. He  was supposed to BOOTS de HELL outta dat ball, no matter what any other defender around him was or wasn't doing. He seemed to take it for granted that nani was going to pull up and not come hard. Is Balotelli fault...his "casual" play is spreading in the team.
 

Where would he boot it? When he realised that Clichy eh coming to win that ball he had no way to boot that ball other than into Nani. He could have tackled stronger, but the way the whistle been blowing it may have ended up being a red card. 1v2 in the back is always dangerous.

Actually, ah now see de replay...ah was being harsh on de man (maybe because he did snub Chelsea) but it was a mixup between de two ah dem....It look more like clichy had pull off from de ball (which he shouldn't have) which suggest that maybe kompany had call him off....communication mix up, my bad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 10:04:49 AM
Where would he boot it? When he realised that Clichy eh coming to win that ball he had no way to boot that ball other than into Nani. He could have tackled stronger, but the way the whistle been blowing it may have ended up being a red card. 1v2 in the back is always dangerous.

You have time.

Especially since he was already on a yellow and had received a stern warning earlier from Dowd.  Hard boots was ricocheting dat straight off Nani and backwards towards Hart.  Clichy took himself out of the play... the least he shoulda do was put a body on Nani to shield the ball for Kompany to clear.  At that rate it eh look like he plan on unseating Kolarov this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on August 07, 2011, 11:00:52 AM
Cleverley is the man change this game for Man U.

That is why I find they should let Cleverley and Anderson get they minutes this year and let Sneijder rock so. But I hear a Dutch correspondent say he talk to Sneijder and is just details they haggling over now.

The team look good. Very impressed with the preseason and how Ferguson letting everybody get minutes.

Most impressive player other than Nani was probably Smalling. Was as good as expected on defence and completely outplay Kolarov and Clichy. The touch for the goal was good too. PLus on preseason he score a real striker's goal that get disallowed. It looking like he stepping up even more from the improvement he had last year. Late on he make a run and cut back and had Clichy sliding. In general he show no fear on the ball, Rafael spot in serious danger.

The first half play where Nani backheel to Welbeck and Welbeck flick it back and receive the return pass was bess. Welbeck need to realize that he make the squad already and start taking his shots.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2011, 11:15:22 AM
This UTD team is so full of depth , its amazing. These young fellas mature rel good. Amazing to watch the pace of football today.

Young looking good too, he fit in to the style of play well. Sneijder will be the icing on the cake
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 12:07:45 PM
You have time.

Especially since he was already on a yellow and had received a stern warning earlier from Dowd.  Hard boots was ricocheting dat straight off Nani and backwards towards Hart.  Clichy took himself out of the play... the least he shoulda do was put a body on Nani to shield the ball for Kompany to clear.  At that rate it eh look like he plan on unseating Kolarov this season.

Yup...Clichy set up the man - full stop...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 07, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
Regardless of whether Clichy setup the man, Kompany was supposed to make a no nonsense clearance. He could've hoof it out any side for a throw and if he had went in all with the requisite force it had nothing Nani coulda do to intercept that ball. He went half hearted.

Its the same thing like Koscielney in the Carling Cup final, yuh cyah dally.

The time honored saying, "When in doubt, KICK IT OUT!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 07, 2011, 12:26:15 PM
Regardless of whether Clichy setup the man, Kompany was supposed to make a no nonsense clearance. He could've hoof it out any side for a throw and if he had went in all with the requisite force it had nothing Nani coulda do to intercept that ball. He went half hearted.

Its the same thing like Koscielney in the Carling Cup final, yuh cyah dally.

The time honored saying, "When in doubt, KICK IT OUT!"

I eh know...It look like by the time Kompany realize that he get leff fuh dead, he didn't have the time or space tuh wind up so he try tuh chook it, and Nani hustle got the better of him... we could speculate on it forever - The only reason I focus on the set up was because the comments I saw after the goal (here and on facebook) was men getting on Kompany case and Clichy eh get implicated at all..... I eh find that was fair...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 07, 2011, 01:13:26 PM
Regardless of whether Clichy setup the man, Kompany was supposed to make a no nonsense clearance. He could've hoof it out any side for a throw and if he had went in all with the requisite force it had nothing Nani coulda do to intercept that ball. He went half hearted.

Its the same thing like Koscielney in the Carling Cup final, yuh cyah dally.

The time honored saying, "When in doubt, KICK IT OUT!"

After I see the whole ting on replay I just tink it was a perfect storm of miscommunication and misinterpretation. Clichy coulda initially head de ball back to Kompany but seeing the way he decidedly dropped off from de ball, is either Kompany call him off, thinkin' he coulda get to it, or clichy see dat kompany was (initially) coming I n and not droppinmg off himself to receive a pass with some space. With clichy facing his own goal, is only one of 2 players he coulda pass dat ball to one touch: kompany or Hart, either of which coulda be tricky with a ball bouncing over he head. Situation like dat, yuh want kompany to take charge and attack dat ball.....and for Clichy to drop back and cover for him....after de mixup, kompany still coulda get to de ball before nani.     
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 07, 2011, 03:00:58 PM
Regardless, it's pretty amazing at times how ruthless and clinical the game can be on the highest level.  Savannah football or even MLS you might still get away with that but on this level one li'l mistake is all it takes and man will punish yuh.  Kudos to Nani fuh pressing de issue and dem putting away the goal with composure.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 08, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 08, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D

Doh study he, he made that comment when the score was 2 nil  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 08, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D

Doh study he, he made that comment when the score was 2 nil  ;D

Big Up!

Yes and to make it worse , is a Arsenal man asking meh for link stueps, i never  ::)

anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D

Bookmark this page , and never lose it  :devil:

http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on August 08, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
De first thing I do after Nani score was rewind and go back and watch how Dzeko miss dat open (ah think uncontested) header, after which Rooney hoof it clear for Nani to run like ah madman after.

Dzeko have to feel as if he was a major contributor to dat goal...not dat i mind or anything ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 08, 2011, 07:35:30 PM
anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D

Doh study he, he made that comment when the score was 2 nil  ;D

Big Up!

Yes and to make it worse , is a Arsenal man asking meh for link stueps, i never  ::)

anyone have a live feed link for the game?


Alyuh men should know how to find these things by now  >:(
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125570&part=sports

Educate we (me) nah! ;D

Bookmark this page , and never lose it  :devil:

http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football

Thanks bro! :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 08, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Dat young team ManU had out in the 2nd half was running boy. Dem fellas was sharp and moving the ball around quick, City couldn't ketch themselves for a while. Entertaining game though as a ManU fan ;D Hopefully Nani don't peak too early this season, we're gonna need him to pace himself throughout the season and finish strong.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doublet750 on August 09, 2011, 11:53:49 AM
lil late but good win fellas....i sure none of alyuh thought it was over even 2-0 down @ d half......just hope the rest of the big teams put city in they place this season.

only concern alyuh should have is just de gea but i sure the young keepre will grow in stature....yuh first year as a starter @ one of the biggest clubs in the world cyar b easy but in time he go get there (that dzeko goal to me he was @ fault for)

good luck Man Ure
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on August 10, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
Just saw the interview with a Dutch reporter where Sneijder said that if Man United came calling he would come immediately, but officially they have not come calling yet (only un-officially).

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,13987_7091013,00.html

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 12, 2011, 05:38:01 PM
I am happy to hear this.

 Source- Manchester United Official Website

Boss set to promote Pogba

Sir Alex has revealed he is promoting Paul Pogba to the first-team squad after being impressed with the FA Youth Cup-winning midfielder.
The 18-year-old Frenchman replaced Paul Scholes in the Reds legend's testimonial against New York Cosmos and is in the manager's thoughts ahead of the new season. The youngsters at Old Trafford have ensured the manager is in a relaxed mood about his squad ahead of the transfer window closing at the end of the month.
"We've got Darren Fletcher to come back," explained Sir Alex. "Michael Carrick, who tends to develop more around November/December. And we’ve got a young boy Pogba who's showing great promise for us. He came on in a couple of games in terms of progress with the youth team, we’re quite positive about him.
"I mean if we hold Pogba back, what’s going to happen? He’s going to leave. You know, in a couple of years’ time when his contract is going to finish. So we have to give him the opportunity to see how he can do in the first-team and he’s got great ability, plus he’s got the physique and athleticism.
"He is a possibility so, when you take that roll call of players you know, I’m certainly not looking to add anybody. I’ve been saying that for weeks, but you’ve all been writing differently, you’ve all been writing about how I’m going to buy this one, I’m going to buy that one but we’ve said nothing, I’m carrying on with business."

When asked directly if everybody can forget about Wesley Sneijder arriving from Inter Milan, he replied: "You can forget about anyone you like! I’m happy with the young players we’ve got."
In terms of whether the likes of Tom Cleverley, Pogba, and possibly Ravel Morrison and Ryan Tunnicliffe, when he returns from Peterborough, can push the existing first-team midfielders, the manager is realistic about the situation.
"Well, I mean my intention is not to put pressure on anyone," he stressed. "My intention is to get the best team I can for United. There’s an emphasis on young players in the squad and there always has been.
"There’s a case where a young player comes through the ranks and that they can threaten anyone. Because if they have the ability and the temperament, there’s only one thing you can do and that’s play them.
"It happened with Ryan Giggs and Lee Sharpe, who was doing very well at the time, showing great promise and what happens? Ryan Giggs appears and Ryan Giggs gets the spot - it’s that horrible business of somebody's ability being better than yours."
 
         
 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 12, 2011, 05:47:53 PM
Bases on Fergie's philosphy of giving youth a chance if they out perform establish players; I fear for Berbatov. I wonder if he will get a lot of run,if say, Welbeck continues to impress. Personally as much as I respect and love Berba's skills and talent, I find he slows the play to much when he receives the ball. He can be to deliberate wiith his play when the break is on. United's history is to defend on one end and turn that into a goal in three to four passes. But it should be interesting to see the competition for places; it can only make thing more exciting especially with the energy of the young players pushing it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 12, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
  Squad numbers for the upcoming season.

Manchester United’s official Premier League squad numbers have been announced for the 2011/12 season.

The new signings – David De Gea, Ashley Young and Phil Jones – will retain the numbers they wore on the recent pre-season tour. De Gea takes Edwin van der Sar’s no.1 shirt, Ashley Young will wear Paul Scholes’ vacated no.18 jersey, while Phil Jones takes the no.4 shirt, previously occupied by Owen Hargreaves.

All other first-team members will remain the same, apart from Jonny Evans, who moves from no.23 to no.6 following Wes Brown’s departure, and Tom Cleverley, who moves into Evans’ now vacant no.23 shirt.

Full squad: (1) De Gea, (3) Evra, (4) Jones, (5) Ferdinand, (6) Evans, (7) Owen, (8) Anderson, (9) Berbatov, (10) Rooney, (11) Giggs, (12) Smalling, (13) J.S. Park, (14) Chicharito, (15) Vidic, (16) Carrick, (17) Nani, (18) Young, (19) Welbeck, (20) Fabio, (21) Rafael, (23) Cleverley, (24) Fletcher, (25) Valencia, (27) Macheda, (28) Gibson, (29) Kuszczak, (32) Diouf, (34) Lindegaard




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 12, 2011, 06:07:14 PM
them young fellas is rel thunder this rounds , very impressed with them. Good luck Berba you go need it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 14, 2011, 09:16:07 AM
Roonaay! 1nil.

Aye look wayne get hair on he head  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 14, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
Roonaay! 1nil.

Aye look wayne get hair on he head  ::)

he was considering implants
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 14, 2011, 09:43:40 AM
It going to take a while to get this young keeper sorted. Rome wasnt built in a day
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 14, 2011, 09:48:16 AM
Roonaay! 1nil.

Aye look wayne get hair on he head  ::)

he was considering implants

Dey workin!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 14, 2011, 09:53:16 AM
It going to take a while to get this young keeper sorted. Rome wasnt built in a day

Yep, but Fabio not helping the cause. I think De Gea needs the most experienced defense we have in front of him.

 I like that when he parries the ball he sends them parallel to the goal line not back into traffic; good technique and strong wrist.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on August 14, 2011, 10:47:41 AM
2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 14, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
Rafael and Fabio cyah stay healthy for an entire season.... get well soon.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 14, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
Good win-good to see own goal back in the team this year. Very young side that finished the match.

Love Phill Jones and Smalling-tenacious, athletic and smart!

I notice that it seem as right footed as Nani is he seems to have better accuracy when shooting on goal with his left foot.

Well yes, Johnny Evans reach-now he have somebody tuh buff in De Gea.

I am looking forward to seeing De Gea develop as a goalie, as well as physically fill out. He will get knock down and roughed up and I feel like he is strong in character and can handle the pressure and expectations. 



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 14, 2011, 11:42:46 AM
81'
That is very harsh on West Brom. United have created very little in this half and now they've taken the lead via a double deflection.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on August 14, 2011, 10:47:45 PM
I am happy to hear this.

 Source- Manchester United Official Website

Boss set to promote Pogba

Sir Alex has revealed he is promoting Paul Pogba to the first-team squad after being impressed with the FA Youth Cup-winning midfielder.
 


This is really good/big news. This guy is going to be big IMO. If Morrison can sort himself out, then good times are ahead.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 15, 2011, 06:49:09 AM
Quote
All De Gea But No Idea (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/944041/the-fifth-official:-david-oh-dear,-barton-goes-bickle?cc=5901)
Given the tedium of Saturday's fixtures I half expected the most exciting element of Manchester United's visit to the Hawthorns to come from discovering how many more millimetres of hairline 50 grand had bought Wayne Rooney. If anything, the extra wisp of fringe makes him look older and a darn sight creepier. But Fergie's new goalkeeper David Oh Dear quickly became the focus of my attention.

With 37 minutes on the clock and Manchester United enjoying 90% possession against a dispirited Baggies, Shane Long turned in the sort of weak effort that probably wouldn't even set off a car alarm if it hit the bonnet square on. But the young Spaniard, perhaps having studied videos of David James and Rob Green to further understand the culture of goalkeeping in this country, promptly dived over the ball in a shameless bid to ingratiate himself to our nation of sympathisers.

Not only did De Gea prove he has trouble dealing with any moving ball, but both of United's centre-back lynchpins hobbled off with injuries, minutes after news that their premier right-back, Rafael, had dislocated his shoulder filtered through to the media. Fear not though, because as is the case with Manchester United, a pre-ordained force ensured they limped out of the Black Country with all three points thanks to the dodgiest double deflection you will ever see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 15, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
I could see Nani bussin it after this season if Rooney continue to favor he buddy Young on the left, everytime United attacking. It seems like the only way Nani getting a chance is if he move in the middle to get a pass. No need for Young to just come into this side and they keep feeding him the ball and ignoring Nani. Which is why I don't blame Nani when he get the ball to hog the shite!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 15, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
Young, Nani, Valencia, Anderson - rel fire power  :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 16, 2011, 08:28:52 AM
I could see Nani bussin it after this season if Rooney continue to favor he buddy Young on the left, everytime United attacking. It seems like the only way Nani getting a chance is if he move in the middle to get a pass. No need for Young to just come into this side and they keep feeding him the ball and ignoring Nani. Which is why I don't blame Nani when he get the ball to hog the shite!

True talk, I was watching de game and clean forget Nani playing until he went on one ah he wild man forays....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 21, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
Reading some news , UTD making a late move on sneijder , i hear he miss training for "personal reasons" today

Fergie to make final bid to bring Sneijder to United as midfielder has Inter time-out

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2028371/Manchester-United-final-bid-Wesley-Sneijder.html#ixzz1Vj6JBOLd
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 22, 2011, 02:48:38 PM
Spurs getting a real ass kicking. ManU flying
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 22, 2011, 02:51:34 PM
Spurs getting a real ass kicking. ManU flying

Friedel doh deserve this shit team he saddled with.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 22, 2011, 02:58:29 PM
Lord this UTD team is tempo. Only Youth and Pace. Amazing to look at.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 22, 2011, 03:03:02 PM
Spurs getting a real ass kicking. ManU flying

Friedel doh deserve this shit team he saddled with.

If it wasn't for he today dey woulda collect a cool 5-6 easy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 22, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
Lord this UTD team is tempo. Only Youth and Pace. Amazing to look at.

Young run Bale ragged on dat wing today.
Wellbeck and Smalling confidence growing stronger with each game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 22, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
much better second half... Welbeck was very poor in the 1st half but he said Fergie gave him some "wise words" at HT and to be fair to the kid he did very well with his goal and a great assist

Very fast short passing game from United today with alot of energy throughout the team

What a player Phil Jones is.. what a beast

Exciting times... still think we are a bit short in the central mid area... could have had Lass and Nasri in for 30-35 million combined .. would have been ideal

Modric would have been the best fit but he wants to stay in London.. If Chelsea get him and Nasri goes City , it will be a bit worrying that we didnt improve our squad with a creative god in midfield

Come on Fergie
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 23, 2011, 07:06:56 AM
Anderson, has been impressive in how been winning the ball and just attacking defences with his driving forays. Making good raking passes,still working on getting the angle right for the more delcate ones.  He also has been lasting the 90minutes; fingers cross he stays healthy and consistent.

Team looking good; what I like is that these young players seem to have good football sense. Also Fergie will do a good job of inserting the 'ole' men to give them rest or when he needs to refreshen things up.

De Gea excellent distribution with feet and hands. Hope Van Der Sar works with him in the other areas that have been weaknesses.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 23, 2011, 07:29:33 AM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 23, 2011, 07:37:04 AM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.

Nah man... Spurs never threaten.  They had one nice opportunity to level the score at 1 when Lennon get past Evra to the endline with Vandervaart wide open just inside de box.  Dotish boy Lennon instead try tuh cross and it get block... den idiot boy try tuh trap de rebound off he chest... not realizing he was standing out ah bounds by dat time.  De brain fart about not slipping to Vandervaart aside... he coulda let de ball go out fuh ah corner.  Vandervaart was livid.

Other than that Friedel kept the scoreline respectable.  I also thought Cleverly had a nice game... he forced Friedel into a highlight save very early on.  Young fella looking nice... two games in.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on August 23, 2011, 09:12:26 AM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.

I didn't see the game (only highlights) but Fergie's comments after the game suggest that it was even in the 1st half, but Man U was too much to handle in the 2nd.

It hard tuh claim that yuh ball equally with your opponent when they beat you 3-0.  1-0 or maybe even 2-0 but not 3-0...that's a sound beating.... 

Even if the scoreline "flatters" some aspects of the game...even if yuh soak up pressure and only scored on the counter.... 3 unanswered goals is enough separation to claim superiority without dispute. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on August 23, 2011, 12:51:17 PM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.

I didn't see the game (only highlights) but Fergie's comments after the game suggest that it was even in the 1st half, but Man U was too much to handle in the 2nd.

It hard tuh claim that yuh ball equally with your opponent when they beat you 3-0.  1-0 or maybe even 2-0 but not 3-0...that's a sound beating.... 

Even if the scoreline "flatters" some aspects of the game...even if yuh soak up pressure and only scored on the counter.... 3 unanswered goals is enough separation to claim superiority without dispute. 

Elan is kicks, one of the least objective men on here.

I listen to the game and watch the highlights. Scoring is part of the game and even if you want to claim that the balance of play was even, or close, the difference in front of goal was stark. Tottenham's attackers were no where close to United's in terms of effectiveness. And on defence, by all reports, Dawson and Kaboul couldn't touch Jones (Evans was shaky).

As for Cleverly I just check the chalkboard of his passes yesterday. 30 complete passes to 4 incomplete. Three of the incomplete were on the edge of the box the 4th was probably a throughball. He didn't give the ball away once in the middle of the park.



http://www.guardianchalkboards.com/guardianchalkboards_embed.swf?chalkBoardID=1bf3U26D9Z210W68F9b7

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on August 26, 2011, 05:53:37 AM
Finally watched the game and although Spurs were alright in midfield and the game was relatively even up until about 10 minutes into thE second half. United beat them bad with individual performances.

Smalling negate Bale completely in the first half. He stand up right on him high up the pitch and give him no space. Very intelligent perfomance. Second half Redknapp moved him inside.

Jones was everywhere showed real anticipation and got to everything. Defoe and VDV ere quiet as a result. Dawson and Kaboul couldn't do the same on the next end.

Anderson and Cleverley were great. They hold the midfield and take turns going forward, show real intelligence and makes United harder to defend against than when Carrick plays because Carrick is much less dynamic. On the flip side Carrick naturally picks up a deeper more static defensive position. Anderson was a MoM contender even without the goal. Play slightly deeper than Cleverley but he have the skills to bring the ball form deep and drive forward from deep and put teams on the back foot.

Welbeck starting to show confidence. Finally starting to see why he was sucha  demon at youth level. He clearly suffering some nerves now but in the 2nd half after the goal he start to shine. The back-heel assist and a nice beat and drive into the Spurs half, he hit Krancjar late on. And he running tirelessly, both him and Rooney were all over the pitch.

Young and Nani were both pressure. Both had chances to score. I agree that Rooney is favouring Young and gets frustrated with Nani too easily. And there is little competition developing between the two for corners and free-kicks.

All in all this was a great performance. Team still ent beating Barcelona and the passing still slow compared to what you see with barcelona but there is a fluency that was not there last year. The entire midfield and front line interchanges well so Nani is in the centre while Cleverley and Young end up on the right and Welbeck on the left. Makes teh team much harder to play against.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 27, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
 


Sir Alex Ferguson's ability to play the generation game is vital to Manchester United's phenomenal success
On Monday, a Manchester United side brimming with young talent sent an emphatic message to the Premier League by crushing Tottenham. For the fifth time in his 25-year reign at Old Trafford, Sir Alex Ferguson has produced a new team fit to dominate English football.


Telegraph
By Mark Ogden
10:32PM BST 26 Aug 2011
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Here, we reveal the secrets behind Ferguson’s unparalleled ability to regenerate his squad, a special talent which has brought him more trophies than any manager in English football history and leaves him, at 69, looking more powerful than ever.

MILAN MODEL
When Brian McClair was asked about his role at Manchester United alongside emerging youngsters by the name of Beckham, Butt, Scholes and Neville in the autumn of 1995, the then 32-year-old midfielder replied by saying, “I’m just their babysitter.”
McClair, now the director of United’s academy, was only half-joking.
While the fatal flaw in Arsène Wenger’s youth policy at Arsenal appears to have been his readiness to discard seasoned performers once they enter their thirties, leaving the youngsters exposed to the demands of top-level football, United manager Sir Alex Ferguson retains and cajoles his veterans.


From Bryan Robson to Denis Irwin, Laurent Blanc to Ryan Giggs, the United manager has always regarded his senior servants as torch-carriers for the next generation.
Ferguson repeatedly refers to his three-tiered squad – the emerging youngsters, those in their mid-20s and the time-served thirtysomethings – as though it is United’s magic formula, yet simple as it sounds, few Premier League rivals have copied the blueprint, with some clubs top-heavy in one area or understaffed in others.
“I always feel that older players can accept a challenge, maybe once, maybe twice at the most,” Ferguson said. “But you need a mix of energy in the team to go the full distance to win a league.”

At 37, Ryan Giggs has yet to start a game this season, with the energy of Tom Cleverley and newly-arrived enthusiasm of Ashley Young restricting him to the bench, yet if United hit turbulence at Wigan, Stoke or Blackburn, Giggs knows his role.
“I’m experienced enough to know I’m not going to start every game or even play every game,” Giggs said. “But I can contribute to the team, whether it be starting or coming on and using my experience in games.”

Ferguson’s decision to hand Michael Owen a one-year contract at the end of last season points towards his determination to harvest experience and surround his young players with a seen it-done it mentality.
Owen started just one Premier League game last season, but Ferguson’s admiration of AC Milan’s loyalty to the likes of Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Nesta and Clarence Seedorf, and the Italian club’s ability to benefit from carefully-handled experience, has convinced him of the value of blending the likes of Giggs and Owen with the youngsters.

The presence of trophy-winning experience, in Ferguson’s mind, enables self-policing within the dressing room and a natural, but evolving, hierarchy which enables personalities to develop and leaders to emerge.
“A lot of the older players are not there now so you have a young element in the dressing room who are starting to take control of the place.” Ferguson said. “It is interesting.”

MAKE STARS, DON’T BUY THEM
What distinction do Dimitar Berbatov, Teddy Sheringham and Henning Berg share at Manchester United?
Since Eric Cantona’s retirement in 1997, they remain the only outfield players aged 27 or older to have been purchased by Sir Alex Ferguson in 15 years.

Rather than highlighting a quirk of United’s buying policy, that statistic points directly to Ferguson’s philosophy that creating stars, as opposed to importing them ready-made, for substantial fees, is a crucial foundation stone in creating successful teams.
Some might suggest it offers nothing more than proof of the parsimonious nature of United’s owners, the

Glazer family, or the dividend-conscious attitude of the old plc board, yet over the same 15-year period, the club have broken the British transfer record for a 23-year-old Rio Ferdinand, made Wayne Rooney the world’s most expensive teenager and, this summer, invested £16.5 million on 19-year-old Phil Jones.
When David Beckham left Old Trafford for Real Madrid in 2003, rather than meet Ronaldinho’s astronomical wage demands, United instead paid £12 million for an unknown 17 year-old by the name of Cristiano Ronaldo.
Whether it is nurturing home-grown talent such as Beckham, Paul Scholes and Giggs or trawling for the best young players across the globe, potential is the keyword for Ferguson – players who can be moulded to suit United’s demands, those with unsated ambition and a desire to progress.


“We compete in the present, but at the same time, build for the future.” Ferguson said. “I think that is one of the factors that has seen us stay successful for such a long time. On our summer tour of America, we had 14 players aged 22 and under.”

Lee Sharpe, just 17 when he moved to United from Torquay in 1988, was the first signpost of Ferguson’s youth-driven ethos and he recognised the manager’s paternalistic approach to his youngsters.
“When I travelled up from Torquay, I thought United might send a taxi for me or a minor member of the coaching staff,” Sharpe said.
“But when the train pulled into Manchester, I hopped off and there he was, in the forecourt of Piccadilly Station, Alex Ferguson himself.”
Similarly, when Ferguson fought Liverpool for Jones’s signature this summer, a phone call to the player’s mother, Helen, helped clinch the deal.

BE RUTHLESS
The history of Ferguson’s 25-year reign as United manager is littered with victims of his ruthless pursuit of glory.
Jim Leighton, a Ferguson loyalist lured south from Aberdeen, was dropped for an FA Cup final replay, Roy Keane shown the door after being deemed too combustible and the prolific Ruud van Nistelrooy dispensed with after a training-ground row with Ronaldo.
Van Nistelrooy, who claimed earlier this year to have repaired his relationship with the Scot, said: “Two or three times every year I would think to myself what a shame it was that it had ended like it did with Ferguson.”

From the outset at United, when he wasted little time in selling crowd favourites Paul McGrath and Norman Whiteside, and sacking chief scout Tony Collins for failing to spot the potential of John Barnes, Ferguson has swiftly rooted out those he deems unfit for purpose.
“Some people can never make a decision,” Ferguson said. “But having the ability to make a quick decision, is a positive aspect of management.”


Recent months have seen Ferguson’s ruthlessness return. Berbatov, United’s record signing, was left out of the 18-man squad for last May’s Champions League final against Barcelona, while John O’Shea, expecting a new contract at Old Trafford, was sold to Sunderland.
Ferguson said: “When players grow old, their performance level drops, but we have to maintain a level of success at the top end of the game, at all the time.
“We can’t afford bad years or breaking-in years, we need to be successful all the time. Sometimes, when a player grows old, you have to recognise it and they have to move on.”


Ferguson hasn’t always been right, when allowing players to leave Old Trafford.
The Scot has conceded that his decision to sell Jaap Stam to Lazio following the publication of the Dutch defender’s controversial autobiography in 2001 was a mistake.
“It is good that a man like Ferguson dares to admit that he makes mistakes,” Stam said. “It doesn’t surprise me, though. I always knew for myself that United made an error by selling me.”


COMPLETE CONTROL
There are few areas of Manchester United not directly controlled by Ferguson.
In the past, the Scot has ordered a change of kit at half-time in a Premier League game – remember those grey shirts at Southampton? – and introduced white socks, rather than black, for his players on European nights to make team-mates more visible.

Yet micromanagement in those areas is mirrored by delegation in others. His coaches are left to train, the dietitians free to utilise their expertise and innovations, such as the use of optometrists, players adopting yoga and GPS monitoring in training, are welcomed by a man now in his 37th year as a manager.
It might not all be as hands-on as when he submitted the catering order for the food stalls while managing St Mirren, but Ferguson’s level of control marks him out among his Premier League peers. Even chief executive David Gill leaves his Old Trafford office for his Friday meetings with Ferguson at Carrington.

Roberto Mancini might work for the richest club in the world, but the Manchester City manager envies Ferguson‘s iron grip at United.
“It’s important for the manager to have control over the players, medical staff and other situations,” Mancini said. “I agree with Ferguson, but he has been at United for a long time so, for him, it is easy. For me, it’s difficult.”

Mancini’s call for greater control at City highlights the recurring fault-line that has seen Ferguson edge out many of his managerial rivals during his time at Old Trafford.
Kevin Keegan, Jose Mourinho and Carlo Ancelotti have all traded blows with Ferguson in the Premier League, but their challenge fizzled out once the men upstairs began to stray too close to the manager’s territory.
Ferguson, described by Alex McLeish as the “Godfather of the football world”. has admitted that the 1990 FA Cup success, his first trophy at United, provided the control he required to push through his agenda at the club.

Six years after the Glazer takeover at Old Trafford, Ferguson remains as powerful as ever before, if not more so, with the American owners sometimes appearing star-struck in their manager’s presence.
When Rooney went public with his demand for a transfer last October, Ferguson took control of keeping the England forward in the knowledge that, regardless of the money his transfer fee would have generated, the Glazers had left him with the ultimate decision.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on August 28, 2011, 10:03:01 AM
De Gea is 10lb of shit packed into a 2lb paper bag.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Ngozi on August 28, 2011, 10:09:20 AM
That Man U team clicking ... big time!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 28, 2011, 10:17:25 AM
Frighteningly good team. Physical, technical, tactical variation and solid defensively.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on August 28, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
Yorke name still calling oui
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
Ah tell alyuh is only Big guns on this team. Amazing to watch at.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on August 28, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
Ah tell alyuh is only Big guns on this team. Amazing to watch at.

The real test is the noisey neighbors
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2011, 11:02:50 AM
Ah tell alyuh is only Big guns on this team. Amazing to watch at.

The real test is the noisey neighbors

It will be a test for them, not us! This thing is new for dem; we have been there, done that, own the trophies!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 28, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
8-2 :cheers: :party: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on August 28, 2011, 11:15:00 AM
Remember saying that Young could blossom like Yorke did. Very talented player and now he have time, space and better players to connect with.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2011, 11:15:23 AM
First!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2011, 11:31:16 AM
haha I love how we had to upstage City

They must have been like "haha United have to win by 6 goals to go top "

Well we f**king answered

GLORY GLORY

We literally 8 Arsenal for Lunch.. yummy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2011, 11:59:39 AM
Johhny Evans is the weak link-maybe we can send him tuh help out Arsenal. He is this year's version of Gibson!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: capodetutticapi on August 28, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
this season will be massive.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 28, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
Johhny Evans is the weak link-maybe we can send him tuh help out Arsenal. He is this year's version of Gibson!
I have always said he and Gibson could leave, I would of rather kept O'Shea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 28, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
Johhny Evans is the weak link-maybe we can send him tuh help out Arsenal. He is this year's version of Gibson!
Weak link is an understatement. Ah still cyah beleive he had to nerve to buff De Gea in one of de earlier games.

On a side note, I am a bit indifferent on pursuit of Sneijder. Great player, but he may upset the current team chemistry and also the development of Cleverley.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2011, 03:08:53 PM
Johhny Evans is the weak link-maybe we can send him tuh help out Arsenal. He is this year's version of Gibson!
Weak link is an understatement. Ah still cyah beleive he had to nerve to buff De Gea in one of de earlier games.

It seems tuh take a minute for him to read a play and by the time he attempts to make a play is a foul or he out of position. If I was a wide player against him I would always square him up and drive at him because his lateral movement poor. He will lose his spot before Jones; he needs tuh play in Carling Cup and mop up duty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on August 28, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
Just get ah chance to watch de game, waaaayyyyy!!!!! Is all ah bawling whole game.
Quote ah de game, after young 2nd goal, "The man is brilliant, they are brilliant, EIGHT, EIGHT!!!!)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 28, 2011, 03:24:31 PM
But wait nah, where is Valencia? like de man cyah even make de bench next to Berbatov......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 28, 2011, 03:34:10 PM
But wait nah, where is Valencia? like de man cyah even make de bench next to Berbatov......

He injured his surgically repaired ankle during the Copa America. I think he just started training again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on August 28, 2011, 03:41:58 PM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.

I didn't see the game (only highlights) but Fergie's comments after the game suggest that it was even in the 1st half, but Man U was too much to handle in the 2nd.

It hard tuh claim that yuh ball equally with your opponent when they beat you 3-0.  1-0 or maybe even 2-0 but not 3-0...that's a sound beating.... 

Even if the scoreline "flatters" some aspects of the game...even if yuh soak up pressure and only scored on the counter.... 3 unanswered goals is enough separation to claim superiority without dispute. 

Elan is kicks, one of the least objective men on here.

I listen to the game and watch the highlights. Scoring is part of the game and even if you want to claim that the balance of play was even, or close, the difference in front of goal was stark. Tottenham's attackers were no where close to United's in terms of effectiveness. And on defence, by all reports, Dawson and Kaboul couldn't touch Jones (Evans was shaky).

As for Cleverly I just check the chalkboard of his passes yesterday. 30 complete passes to 4 incomplete. Three of the incomplete were on the edge of the box the 4th was probably a throughball. He didn't give the ball away once in the middle of the park.

http://www.guardianchalkboards.com/guardianchalkboards_embed.swf?chalkBoardID=1bf3U26D9Z210W68F9b7



See why I LOVE dis forum...men will ALWAYS check (literally!) yuh when yuh talk sh*t. I wondered if it had two Cleverly dat play for Manu today, one who give away de ball steady, steady, and one who gave away de ball FOUR out of THIRTY times....credibility is ah hell of thing yes:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 28, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
And today he had 90% pass completion

In other words Elan is a total c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2011, 07:55:55 PM
De Gea is 10lb of shit packed into a 2lb paper bag.



 :shameonyou: i bet you before this season done the coaches will sort him out, if not fergie will. I willing to give him a chance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on August 28, 2011, 11:32:39 PM
.... And Man U was def up for this game too - they moved very well off the ball - still a little vulnerable at the back if you ask me, but their attacking triangles were impressive...Was a tough day for the gunners - so it go sometimes.

That was the striking thing about the Spurs game for me. The free movement of the front six. Was happy that Nani get a goal to day because he has been working hard without getting something, mostly through his own fault. Despite the fact that Anderson and Cleverley are "holding" they much more involved in the attack than Carrick was. Nani like coming inside and Young doing it too. Is a stark contrast to last year and Ferguson clearly decide to change things over the summer.

Found this article (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/07/manchester-united-community-shield-2011/) on zonal marking that analyzed the difference in play from last year.

Found this article (http://)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on August 29, 2011, 08:21:19 AM
Yeah, yeah... but allyuh come and try that by Chelsea nuh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 29, 2011, 08:32:31 AM
Yeah, yeah... but allyuh come and try that by Chelsea nuh.

Yuh hurry ah what.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 29, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
I will say this about my boy Nani-he doesn't score ugly goals! Ah sweet chip , or a cut and a shot placed beyond the keeper!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coop's on August 29, 2011, 05:00:53 PM



http://www.guardianchalkboards.com/guardianchalkboards_embed.swf?chalkBoardID=1bf3U26D9Z210W68F9b7


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      After this i eh argueing Football with none of alyu on this forum,yes Breds you good yu prove your point. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 10, 2011, 10:55:51 AM
Bolton getting raped
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 10, 2011, 11:01:32 AM
I does wonder if we does be watching the same game. Spurs play rel ball, much more ball than Man United. The only difference was the goals (which is all that matters in the end).


DeGea is suspect and so is Cleverly, he gave the ball away to much. Between him and Park can't see why he's ahead of Park (well actually I can). Park can do everything he is TRYING to do.

I didn't see the game (only highlights) but Fergie's comments after the game suggest that it was even in the 1st half, but Man U was too much to handle in the 2nd.

It hard tuh claim that yuh ball equally with your opponent when they beat you 3-0.  1-0 or maybe even 2-0 but not 3-0...that's a sound beating.... 

Even if the scoreline "flatters" some aspects of the game...even if yuh soak up pressure and only scored on the counter.... 3 unanswered goals is enough separation to claim superiority without dispute. 

Elan is kicks, one of the least objective men on here.

I listen to the game and watch the highlights. Scoring is part of the game and even if you want to claim that the balance of play was even, or close, the difference in front of goal was stark. Tottenham's attackers were no where close to United's in terms of effectiveness. And on defence, by all reports, Dawson and Kaboul couldn't touch Jones (Evans was shaky).

As for Cleverly I just check the chalkboard of his passes yesterday. 30 complete passes to 4 incomplete. Three of the incomplete were on the edge of the box the 4th was probably a throughball. He didn't give the ball away once in the middle of the park.

http://www.guardianchalkboards.com/guardianchalkboards_embed.swf?chalkBoardID=1bf3U26D9Z210W68F9b7



See why I LOVE dis forum...men will ALWAYS check (literally!) yuh when yuh talk sh*t. I wondered if it had two Cleverly dat play for Manu today, one who give away de ball steady, steady, and one who gave away de ball FOUR out of THIRTY times....credibility is ah hell of thing yes:)

Oh nice, now seeing this guess I'm a liar. I will get the game and post it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 10, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
WOW  De Gea has awesome ball distribution.

4 nil now 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 10, 2011, 11:55:08 AM
Man U ball movement in the attacking 3rd has improved alot this season. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 10, 2011, 11:58:06 AM
5 NIL Rooney hat-trick 67 min

Man U ball movement in the attacking 3rd has improved alot this season. 

ALOT
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: davidephraim on September 10, 2011, 12:07:54 PM
as a big chelsea fan i have to come in dis manu thread to say this....

MANUTD looking real good this year. This is probably the best team since Dwight and dem and ah feel Sir Alex have a hard on for Barcelona. Chelsea have to come real good to beat dis manu team right here. Alex Fergie is pure class!

 Long live the beautiful game!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 10, 2011, 12:23:57 PM
Ruthless  :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 10, 2011, 12:31:10 PM
Nice win, nice easy game for DeGea. I will take it! But we need tuh cut down on the scoring chances we giving sides; better sides will capitalize if we continue to give those chances. Carrick and his backwards and sideways passing is back! Cringeworthy!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: g on September 10, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
Nice win, nice easy game for DeGea. I will take it! But we need tuh cut down on the scoring chances we giving sides; better sides will capitalize if we continue to give those chances. Carrick and his backwards and sideways passing is back! Cringeworthy!

An interesting observation and probably explains why Cleverly will be preferred to both Carrick and Fletcher as Cleverly i've noticed always shapes himself to play forward at all times which of course allows for a faster transitioning from defense to attack.

Both Manchester teams running some sublime stuff so far this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 10, 2011, 12:56:24 PM
Fluid Football.. we looking good

Some injuries today though.. Cleverley looked serious.. he said on his Twitter he thinks it could be a break.. massive blow If true.. good thing Fletcher is back.. Energy and movement is the key this season ... The team moves more fluid without Berba and Carrick in it despite them being good footballers... and today I noticed how Giggs killed the flow when Young came off... Giggsy was all over the place and Rooney and Hernandez started drifting to accommodate it

5-0.. 18 goals scored in 4 games.. top of the league

massive week ahead.. Benfica away and Chelsea home
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 10, 2011, 05:04:49 PM
 :devil: :devil: :devil: Red devil 

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 10, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
Man U is out the blocks the quickest this season.  It's a long season, but as of now Man U is the most impressive. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 10, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
Man U is out the blocks the quickest this season.  It's a long season, but as of now Man U is the most impressive.

Don't let the goal count fool you... nothing against United, but City has been far more impressive.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 10, 2011, 11:16:19 PM
And today he had 90% pass completion

In other words Elan is a total c**t

Yuteman you doh have ah clue. 90% pass completion is only part of de game yuh lil twat.

The Tottenham game de fella struggled big time. The best he did was de cross. Didn't want to get into it with you all half baked fans. Go on Man Utd Forum and come back and spit out what you read nah man.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 10, 2011, 11:21:16 PM
Nice win, nice easy game for DeGea. I will take it! But we need tuh cut down on the scoring chances we giving sides; better sides will capitalize if we continue to give those chances. Carrick and his backwards and sideways passing is back! Cringeworthy!

An interesting observation and probably explains why Cleverly will be preferred to both Carrick and Fletcher as Cleverly i've noticed always shapes himself to play forward at all times which of course allows for a faster transitioning from defense to attack.

Both Manchester teams running some sublime stuff so far this season.

As much as you all bigging up de CMF, Man Utd avoided the middle of the field big time today.  Don't know why, tactical maybe?  Anderson is the man in the middle right now for Man Utd. The fella setting the tempo of the game early and keep reinforcing that pace. His forward passing has totally improved.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 11, 2011, 12:24:37 AM
Man U is out the blocks the quickest this season.  It's a long season, but as of now Man U is the most impressive.

Don't let the goal count fool you... nothing against United, but City has been far more impressive.

yea cuz scoring 13 goals at home vs Spurs and Arsenal and winning away to West Brom and Bolton, both which picked up wins vs good teams last season at home isnt anything near the form of City's oh so hard wins at home vs Swansea and Wigan

Not to mention the fact we recently beat City 3-2

They are looking good, we are looking better
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 11, 2011, 01:14:26 AM
yea cuz scoring 13 goals at home vs Spurs and Arsenal and winning away to West Brom and Bolton, both which picked up wins vs good teams last season at home isnt anything near the form of City's oh so hard wins at home vs Swansea and Wigan

Not to mention the fact we recently beat City 3-2

They are looking good, we are looking better

You want to talk about what WBA and Bolton did last year??  Did United play last year's teams?  That piece of idiocy just underscores your irrationality when it comes to your club.  United barely beat a dreadful West Brom team that is yet to win a game. 

Allyuh best win was putting 3 on Spurs at home... City rest five on them in their own park

Allyuh destroyed Bolton at home... City traveled to the Reebok Stadium and beat them 2-1 on the road.  We dominated that same Bolton side three weeks ago and the 3-1 scoreline really flattered them... we easily should have sent them home 5-0 as United did... and even I would concede that we are nowhere as good as United is right now... so I'm hardly impressed by the scoreline... just as I wasn't when allyuh thrashed Arsenal.

Then there's a matter of midfield and defense... simply put City's play in both regards has been much... MUCH more dominant.  De Gea is a disaster waiting to happen and as well as the back four has played they are nowhere as solid as City's back line.  As for the 'recently beat City' talk... that is just foolish talk to think that counts for anything.  That city side allyuh beat over a month ago is night and day inferior to the current squad... Nasri and Aguero have completely transformed that attack and Dzeko has been a beast.  As I said, allyuh letting two lop-sided scorelines against woeful teams deceive allyuh... but keep sleeping on City at yuh peril, I guarantee you they taking at least one from United, two if the refs doh screw them at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: g on September 11, 2011, 06:00:55 AM
yea cuz scoring 13 goals at home vs Spurs and Arsenal and winning away to West Brom and Bolton, both which picked up wins vs good teams last season at home isnt anything near the form of City's oh so hard wins at home vs Swansea and Wigan

Not to mention the fact we recently beat City 3-2

They are looking good, we are looking better

You want to talk about what WBA and Bolton did last year??  Did United play last year's teams?  That piece of idiocy just underscores your irrationality when it comes to your club.  United barely beat a dreadful West Brom team that is yet to win a game. 

Allyuh best win was putting 3 on Spurs at home... City rest five on them in their own park

Allyuh destroyed Bolton at home... City traveled to the Reebok Stadium and beat them 2-1 on the road.  We dominated that same Bolton side three weeks ago and the 3-1 scoreline really flattered them... we easily should have sent them home 5-0 as United did... and even I would concede that we are nowhere as good as United is right now... so I'm hardly impressed by the scoreline... just as I wasn't when allyuh thrashed Arsenal.

Then there's a matter of midfield and defense... simply put City's play in both regards has been much... MUCH more dominant.  De Gea is a disaster waiting to happen and as well as the back four has played they are nowhere as solid as City's back line.  As for the 'recently beat City' talk... that is just foolish talk to think that counts for anything.  That city side allyuh beat over a month ago is night and day inferior to the current squad... Nasri and Aguero have completely transformed that attack and Dzeko has been a beast.  As I said, allyuh letting two lop-sided scorelines against woeful teams deceive allyuh... but keep sleeping on City at yuh peril, I guarantee you they taking at least one from United, two if the refs doh screw them at Old Trafford.

Doh worry bakes, Liverpool looking good this season too, unlucky to get a point at Stoke yesterday
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on September 11, 2011, 10:16:36 AM
Not much between Man U and Man city right now. I see Man U can definitely play at a faster pace while keeping possession of the ball which is creating quite a few more chances. Phil Jones is a great addition. I can see a lineup like this doing damage at some point this season.

                                                          DeGea


Smalling                                              Ferdinand                        Vidic                    Evra



Nani                               jones                              Anderson                              Young


                                                        Rooney

                                                  Hernandez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 11, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Man U is out the blocks the quickest this season.  It's a long season, but as of now Man U is the most impressive.

Don't let the goal count fool you... nothing against United, but City has been far more impressive.

Well which of the two teams has been more impressive so far is clearly a matter of opinion, but I think "FAR more impressive", as you put it is an exaggeration.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 11, 2011, 12:04:58 PM

Well which of the two teams has been more impressive so far is clearly a matter of opinion, but I think "FAR more impressive", as you put it is an exaggeration.

Hardly a matter of opinion, it is legitimately a question of fact, fact which can be verified by looking at the contributions by a wider range of players across the board at City.  Quantifiable by looking at the goalkeeping and defensive play of both teams.  Quantifiable by examining the quality of the opponents they have played, and quality of wins on the road.

Even if you insist that it's a matter of opinion, I think I've laid out a pretty convincing case (supported by sound reasoning) as to why City has "FAR more impressive"... they're doing everything United is doing on offense except they're getting contributions from more players... plus they've been better in the middle, across the back and in goal.  It's about more than just the attacking third.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 11, 2011, 03:20:32 PM
Not much between Man U and Man city right now. I see Man U can definitely play at a faster pace while keeping possession of the ball which is creating quite a few more chances. Phil Jones is a great addition. I can see a lineup like this doing damage at some point this season.

                                                          DeGea


Smalling                                              Ferdinand                        Vidic                    Evra



Nani                               jones                              Anderson                              Young


                                                        Rooney

                                                  Hernandez

Doh forget Valencia when he get back fit   :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 11, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
Hardly a matter of opinion, it is legitimately a question of fact, fact which can be verified by looking at the contributions by a wider range of players across the board at City.  Quantifiable by looking at the goalkeeping and defensive play of both teams.  Quantifiable by examining the quality of the opponents they have played, and quality of wins on the road.

Even if you insist that it's a matter of opinion, I think I've laid out a pretty convincing case (supported by sound reasoning) as to why City has "FAR more impressive"... they're doing everything United is doing on offense except they're getting contributions from more players... plus they've been better in the middle, across the back and in goal.  It's about more than just the attacking third.

Your opinion might be based on a collection of facts....still an opinion.

If these teams are in this kind of form when they meet, it'll be a nice match up. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: davidephraim on September 11, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Nothing personal but I don't think Man city is looking as good as Man utd. They don't have the knock, they don't hav e the joy, they don't have the youth and euphony that manutd is exhibiting and Manutd are doing it with pretty much unknown guys. To have wellbeck, chicharito, Rooney, nani, Young firing on all pistons... dem running yuh into the ground sah. Pure youth power. I waiting for the Manu - Barca quite frankly because dem Machester derby is manutd own.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 11, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Man Utd is very impressive right now, but I think you all missing Bakes idea. I think I understand what he getting at.

Last week Dzeko run de place red and this week Aguerro destroy de place. Now this is not just in attacking personnel, but straight across de team.  In the forward line Man Utd have some power, but in the midfield area they drop of quite a bit. Even Chelsea can survive a couple of injury in the middle and not lose to much of quality. However, Man Utd not so much (Giggs can only play so much).

So What I believe Bakes saying is that Man Utd kill off some teams but mainly you know what's coming at you, but Man City kill off some teams and they have done it with starting 11 and reserves and kept their quality. This augurs well for their European goals and their domestic mission.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 11, 2011, 09:34:13 PM
I think both teams are playing similar football at a very high level. Trying to say that one has been head and shoulders over the other when they have both had four easy wins doesn't wash especially when they beat two common opponents in similar fashion. Yes City win at Spurs but that Spurs midfield was a sieve, worse than the one that United faced days earlier. Conversely City, for all their better defending gave up two goals to the aforementioned piss poor Bolton. I also don't see how you can dismiss performances against a weak Arsenal/West Brom combination and then use Wigan and Swansea to tout City. Again my point is there is nothing in the opposition to say that City had a harder ride and the results are the same.

I still pick City as favorites for a couple reasons.

The first is Silva and Aguero. Both teams have been killing teams with good interplay among the front 4. Left sided players running through the center , on the right and up front. But if you compare the two Silva is running it much more than Young or Nani and he is more experienced. A lot of Young's game is pace and using open space and Nani has all the skill but is still learning.

Aguero for me is the biggest buy. Has the potential to do what Ronaldo and Henry did when they were in the league I.e. Win games singlehandedly over and over again. Rooney is playing the role that Aguero does but he has much more to do. Just like 2 years ago, for all his physical skills, it hard to see Rooney doing this all season. I think it will be interesting to see both of these teams play without these two players to make a better judgement of the teams' play.

I think the rest of the sides are even except that City's 1st choice midfield two Toure and De Jong are a better defensive shield than Anderson and Cleverley. Conversely the latter pair gives you more going forward. History says that a pair like Toure and De Jong wins you the big games but we will see.

I disagree that United have had had fewer contributors than City. I think United has just rotated their team less so far, nobody doubts that Park, valencia, Giggs, Carrick and Fletcher will perform. In fact even with very short minutes Giggs, Park and Carrick have all scored or assisted and that is addition to Anderson and Cleverley who, as a pair, have been in most of the goals.

As far as depth City is deeper up front. Chicarito and Dzeko is a wash, "just" goalscorers but City backup is Tevez and United's is Welbeck advantage City.

In defence I'll take Jones, Smalling, Evans and Fabio as backups over Zabaleta, Lescott, Savic and Kolarov.

In midfield both sides have similar quality backups but United has more bodies to come off the bench. City has Johnson, Barry and Milner as serious bench options but United still has Giggs, Park, Valencia, Carrick and Fletcher.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 11, 2011, 09:41:32 PM
For all the United City talk people sleeping on Chelsea. Despite their "bad start" they right in the mix and with Mata, Sturridge, Meireles and Lukaku they have the players to transform their play and make them much better. Getting the results they have with a new manager, investment in young players and that millstone they call Torres might be the most impressive performance of them all.

Once cold weather hit all these big scores will die down and Chelsea will be in the mix just like the Manchester clubs. All three will drop points here and there and it will come down to the key head to head match ups and match ups against the other big sides.

Can't see anybody outside those three contending seriously though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 12, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
Man Utd is very impressive right now, but I think you all missing Bakes idea. I think I understand what he getting at.

Last week Dzeko run de place red and this week Aguerro destroy de place. Now this is not just in attacking personnel, but straight across de team.  In the forward line Man Utd have some power, but in the midfield area they drop of quite a bit. Even Chelsea can survive a couple of injury in the middle and not lose to much of quality. However, Man Utd not so much (Giggs can only play so much).

So What I believe Bakes saying is that Man Utd kill off some teams but mainly you know what's coming at you, but Man City kill off some teams and they have done it with starting 11 and reserves and kept their quality. This augurs well for their European goals and their domestic mission.

Pretty much... and then when you factor in their defensive play, statistically the teams are neck and neck in terms of goals allowed etc. But anybody here really think that the Man U back four of Ferdinand, Vidic, Jones and Evra has played better than Richards, Kompany, Lescott and Clichy?  Anybody in ManU middle played better than Silva, Toure, Nasri?  Need we even compare Hart and De Gea?  Top to bottom City has been the more impressive side.  But as Kicker say, never mind the facts, that is still just an opinion.

------------------------------------------

As for JDB

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I also don't see how you can dismiss performances against a weak Arsenal/West Brom combination and then use Wigan and Swansea to tout City.

I don't remember anybody using Wigan and Swansea to tout anybody, read again.  Small Mag is the one who was "touting" WBA and Bolton teams from last year to try and make the case for how good United is this year.  I only discuss Arsenal and Bolton b/c United padded their offensive stats against them.  Other than that I discussed the relative performances against the common teams and discussed the fact that the away games played by City were more impressive than the home wins against common opponents by virtue of United playing at Old Trafford where they have a decisive advantage... without even talking about officiating etc.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 12, 2011, 06:58:37 AM
I don't remember anybody using Wigan and Swansea to tout anybody, read again.  Small Mag is the one who was "touting" WBA and Bolton teams from last year to try and make the case for how good United is this year.  I only discuss Arsenal and Bolton b/c United padded their offensive stats against them.  Other than that I discussed the relative performances against the common teams and discussed the fact that the away games played by City were more impressive than the home wins against common opponents by virtue of United playing at Old Trafford where they have a decisive advantage... without even talking about officiating etc.

My point is both teams have played four poor sides. Until they play each other or more teams it is very difficult to say that one is far more impressive than the other. Even if you look at all six teams as a collective they are all in the bottom half on similar points. I don't get into the goal difference at this point but it certainly doesn't prove that City has been better.

As for common opponents. You keep discounting United's win over Bolton as a home game when they travelled to Bolton just like City did. United won 5-0, while City won 3-2. Conversely City had the better result and performance against Spurs. I don't see how City doing better against Spurs makes the argument for City but United doing better against Bolton means nothing.



Pretty much... and then when you factor in their defensive play, statistically the teams are neck and neck in terms of goals allowed etc. But anybody here really think that the Man U back four of Ferdinand, Vidic, Jones and Evra has played better than Richards, Kompany, Lescott and Clichy?  Anybody in ManU middle played better than Silva, Toure, Nasri?  Need we even compare Hart and De Gea?  Top to bottom City has been the more impressive side.  But as Kicker say, never mind the facts, that is still just an opinion.

This is subjective not factual. Several people on here, and elsewhere, think that the United back four and middle have been better, others might not. You saying that City has been far better is just another opinion.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 12, 2011, 07:35:11 AM
Nice win, nice easy game for DeGea. I will take it! But we need tuh cut down on the scoring chances we giving sides; better sides will capitalize if we continue to give those chances. Carrick and his backwards and sideways passing is back! Cringeworthy!

An interesting observation and probably explains why Cleverly will be preferred to both Carrick and Fletcher as Cleverly i've noticed always shapes himself to play forward at all times which of course allows for a faster transitioning from defense to attack.

Both Manchester teams running some sublime stuff so far this season.


People need to get off Carrick’s back. Carrick has been invaluable in United’s runs to the CL final in the past couple years. His positional sense is impeccable. The only bad thing is that he plays so deep that he is less effective in games where teams sit back and defend deep, but in Europe and the big games like the 3 wins over Chelsea this year Carrick has been a boss.

He also gets too much blame for the few big games that he has made mistakes in that deep position that led directly to critical goals ( the 2nd leg against Bayern and the semi against City).

I give Ferguson credit for giving Andrson and Cleverely time to play together, but Carrick coming in can have a positive effect because Anderson is now THE advanced player of the two and not taking turns. Said it last year, Anderson is  a creative player, played as a number  10 at Porto and people in Brazil were surprised to see him playing def midfield in England. The change has made him more dynamic and now he is a solid all-round midfielder.

What he has been doing this season has been fantastic, playing deep pulling the strings yet still getting forward. The assist for Welbeck against Arsenal was a gem. Now playing in front of Carrick he could give more than Cleverley while the team might be more solid at the same time.

It is an interesting situation to be in when you lose a good player and have another good, but different player coming in. Like Hernandez replacing Welbeck, Welbeck works more around the pitch, but Hernandez is better in the box.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2011, 07:49:33 AM
Agree with JDB that Chelsea could be a sleeping giant with Mata and Miereles added to the line up - still think that City and United have more depth...and more dynamic talent.

David Silva's footballing brain is probably above anything in the EPL - always liked that player and hoped that Madrid would make a play for him like 2 seasons ago.  He was excellent last season and I think he'll be a bigger handful this season as Mancini seems to be giving him more freedom to drift inside and pull the strings both centrally and from out wide...With Dzeko, Nasri, Yaya, Tevez AND Kun...that firepower is really scary - The two question marks are over whether or not Mancini can bring the best out of them, because I find him to often be a conservative, defense minded manager...with dem kinda weapons, that will have to change.  The other big weakenss IMO is Lescott - that soldier doh belong on the same field as the rest of his teammates...

For Man U, Fergie looks to have learned from the Barca cutarses over the past 2-3 seasons...There is clearly a bigger emphasis on quick interchange/interplay from less traditional angles, in how they approach the goal...and they are pressing alot higher up the pitch too...Some of the stuff they did against Arsenal, and against Bolton was straight outta the Barca book regarding the angles and the interplay, and even the team defense.  In the past 3 seasons or so, Man U and Madrid (and now City) have been the deepest (not necessarily the best, but deepest) teams in Europe, and now Man U is even deeper.  As they go deeper into their roster, their central defending gets a lil suspect IMO -that's the only notable weakness I see... 

The question for both these teams is whether or not they get hot too early. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 12, 2011, 09:26:14 AM
Nice win, nice easy game for DeGea. I will take it! But we need tuh cut down on the scoring chances we giving sides; better sides will capitalize if we continue to give those chances. Carrick and his backwards and sideways passing is back! Cringeworthy!

An interesting observation and probably explains why Cleverly will be preferred to both Carrick and Fletcher as Cleverly i've noticed always shapes himself to play forward at all times which of course allows for a faster transitioning from defense to attack.

Both Manchester teams running some sublime stuff so far this season.


People need to get off Carrick’s back. Carrick has been invaluable in United’s runs to the CL final in the past couple years. His positional sense is impeccable. The only bad thing is that he plays so deep that he is less effective in games where teams sit back and defend deep, but in Europe and the big games like the 3 wins over Chelsea this year Carrick has been a boss.

He also gets too much blame for the few big games that he has made mistakes in that deep position that led directly to critical goals ( the 2nd leg against Bayern and the semi against City).

I give Ferguson credit for giving Andrson and Cleverely time to play together, but Carrick coming in can have a positive effect because Anderson is now THE advanced player of the two and not taking turns. Said it last year, Anderson is  a creative player, played as a number  10 at Porto and people in Brazil were surprised to see him playing def midfield in England. The change has made him more dynamic and now he is a solid all-round midfielder.

What he has been doing this season has been fantastic, playing deep pulling the strings yet still getting forward. The assist for Welbeck against Arsenal was a gem. Now playing in front of Carrick he could give more than Cleverley while the team might be more solid at the same time.

It is an interesting situation to be in when you lose a good player and have another good, but different player coming in. Like Hernandez replacing Welbeck, Welbeck works more around the pitch, but Hernandez is better in the box.

I agree Carrick was very effective during the matches you mention and he covers angles very well. My issue with him is at times he presents as timid with the ball which has interfers with the team moving forward when we have a chance to break. Carrick seemed to loss his confidence after the first final against Barca in 2009. His lack of aggressiveness with the ball and pass in my opinion kills plays and opportunities for plays. He is much different than when he first started playing for United; I doubt Fergies would have payed what he did if Carrick was playing with the ball the way he plays with the ball now.
Anderson in my opinion just keeps getting better. A sign of that for me is that,  is he is using and trusting his right foot more and not just relying on his left as he has in previous seasons. Love the guy; hopes he stays fit and healthy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on September 12, 2011, 09:43:41 AM
With Dzeko, Nasri, Yaya, Tevez AND Kun...that firepower is really scary -
Like yuh overs Balo sah.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on September 12, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
man talking bout Dzeko as firepower and not even mentioning Berbatov. Berbatov score 4 in a game too and all of a sudden Dzeko is a killa. Men quoting all kinda stats and talking bout Kompany and Lescott and dem when it come to big games. Go ahead and play down the big game experience of Rio, evra, vidic and wait and see these Man City boys when dey meet Barcelona, madrid,and bayern. All these props and they haven't done shit as yet. As soon as Man U start moving de ball faster in de pre-season cup, Man city get disorganized and give up plenty chances. One side know how to be winners and the other want to be winners. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 12, 2011, 11:16:22 AM
One side know how to be winners and the other want to be winners.

Well Said  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 12, 2011, 01:46:27 PM
I don't get into the goal difference at this point but it certainly doesn't prove that City has been better.

...and of course that was my argument, right?

As for common opponents. You keep discounting United's win over Bolton as a home game when they travelled to Bolton just like City did. United won 5-0, while City won 3-2. Conversely City had the better result and performance against Spurs. I don't see how City doing better against Spurs makes the argument for City but United doing better against Bolton means nothing.

You're right... both games versus Bolton was at the Reebok Stadium, I have no problem giving United the edge there in terms of performance.  City gets the edge for the away victory in my mind.

This is subjective not factual. Several people on here, and elsewhere, think that the United back four and middle have been better, others might not. You saying that City has been far better is just another opinion.

Anyone who argues that United's midfield has been as good as City's is nuts.. plain and simple.  And yes, that's an opinion.  Not opinion is that De Gea has been a lot worse than Hart... feel free to now argue whether he has been "a lot worse" from simply worse.  Goalkeeper play is part of the defense as far as I know and my argument all along has been that City has been better defensively.  At any rate, I don't care that much as to carry on the debate further.  As you said, until the teams play each other (or better common opponents) we won't have a better gauge.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 12, 2011, 03:36:59 PM
Who is better between United and City is actually being debated yes...who woulda thought that day would ever come?

I really didn't mean tuh spark off this debate when I loosely said that Man U is the most impressive (to me) this season so far...to be honest I wasn't even thinking about Man City  ;D.. I was more thinking of the traditional "big sides". Arsenal is sh*t,  Chelsea ain't fully striding yet, Liverpool still tryin' tuh figure themselves out, Inter lost to Palermo, Roma lost, no one cares about Juve anymore lol, Milan drew with Lazio, Barca dropped points over the weekend, no on cares about Valencia anymore haha, and Madrid didn't really roar past Getafe on Saturday either...And that is really as far as my head was reaching when I posted that...but ah glad Bakes brought up City, because they hot out the blocks fuh real.  Whether they more impressive than Man U is 6 of one half dozen of the other in my opinion...

The wrap up of the EPL review yesterday highlighted City's hot form at the moment, and in the same breath mentioned Man U matching them stride for stride with the old refrain "anything you can do, I can do better"...so regardless of who more impressive, by far or by a little bit, the media for one is already painting this as a well poised future derby clash between two teams who in their own right are red hot very early on the season...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 12, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
Have to agree Kicker... on everything for real.  I also didn't plan on no big debate either, just that for me City has been the most impressive team... by far  ;D  ManU's performances against Arsenal and Bolton were really eye-opening, says a lot about the kind of form they in right now.  Young has really fit in nicely, and Rooney implants outperforming de £30,000 he pay fuh it, lol

Of the traditional big four, yeah... Man U has been best of the lot... by far.  Chelsea looks as though they about to settle into form, and at risk of being biased I have to say that Meireles might be the chief cause of that... I think his passing and movement might be the spark to get Torres going again.  I see Mata more of an advanced player in the middle than Meireles so I see him adding more to the attack than Meireles, and with Sturridge seemingly rounding into form, suddenly they seem rich in attacking options.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
Valencia starting against Benfica.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 14, 2011, 03:25:25 PM
Wait daiz all  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 18, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
Big Mag at the game today.. find him a ticket last week

meanwhile I watching it on sportsmax .. need to get back there, miss that place

he better not forget my kits haha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 08:51:39 AM
no streams?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:04:12 AM
no streams?

http://myp2p.cm/live.php?v=yuit1.blogspot.com%2F

http://myp2p.cm/live.php?v=pechinolive1.blogspot.com%2F
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:07:45 AM
1 nil  :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 18, 2011, 09:09:35 AM
I feel like i watching a stream with this jerky Sportsmax feed steups.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 18, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
Them men on Tv just gloss over the fact that Smalling was offside...  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 18, 2011, 09:10:37 AM
http://lets-kickoff.blogspot.com/

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

streams
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 09:11:22 AM
no streams?

http://myp2p.cm/live.php?v=yuit1.blogspot.com%2F

http://myp2p.cm/live.php?v=pechinolive1.blogspot.com%2F

thanks i found one from that list: http://myp2p.cm/?v=39559/watch-manchester-united-vs-chelsea

edit: typical. offside goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
That :bs: shyte call start ahready.  :cursing:  Freaking cheap call for a foul into an offside goal. .  :pissedoff:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:19:11 AM
 :cursing: set ah cheap calls man.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
Ramires unscore a goal dread...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:29:43 AM
Sportmax yuh mudder c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:30:51 AM
What was the call in the corner when Ashley Young did a bicyle? Cause Bosingwa did not touch him?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 18, 2011, 09:33:37 AM
What was the call in the corner when Ashley Young did a bicyle? Cause Bosingwa did not touch him?

Playing against United.
You ent see that one in the rule book?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
That is ah  :cursing:  goalassos
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: College on September 18, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
Nani wine
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:38:04 AM
Yes fadda ah luv that, it sweet to bad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 18, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
Weak midfield defending by Mata, but what a shot by Nani...

Real uphill for Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:38:42 AM
string up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
great goal by Nani. Chelsea isn't on the same field
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
great goal by Nani. Chelsea isn't on the same field

What game you watching. That is rel shyte talk you on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 18, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
Nothing to separate the teams on the run of play but Man U just clinical...

3-0

Chelsea very questionable in the defensive 1/3rd...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:47:08 AM
ah seeing 5 who with me?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 09:47:54 AM
elan...chelsea is looking slow and lethargic, ans hasn't looked a threat since ramires unscore the goal...what are you saying? look a third...

My kingdom for a Drogba
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:48:31 AM
Prep the cannons!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 09:49:39 AM
Rooney have 9 goals already  :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:51:43 AM
A couple differences,

Ashley Young is null and void, He is in Bosingwa's back pocket.

Nani cannot get past Ashley Cole.

Chelsea is getting in behind Man United.

Chelsea cannot finish.

Ramires and Torres are absolutely in need of bush bath.
Man United has not gotten in behind Chelsea, Brilliant final 3rd defending

Man Utd cannot get a cross in, again brilliant.


Finally Chelsea cannot get a set piece anywhere close to the box, yet Man Utd somehow has managed to secure a couple.  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 18, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
 :rotfl:

i thought chelsea was bad.....but wha going on with liverpool?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: masterblaster on September 18, 2011, 09:53:33 AM
HAHAHAHA!!! Man Shitty tie 2-2 with Fulham......LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 09:54:05 AM
elan...chelsea is looking slow and lethargic, ans hasn't looked a threat since ramires unscore the goal...what are you saying? look a third...

My kingdom for a Drogba

I thought you know this game man. We are getting outrscored, yes. But we are not being played of the field. With Sturridge taking his chabce early on, Torres taking his and Ramires finishing that tapping alls even.

Again we are being outscored, unfortunately that's all that matters.

Also the last time I check Chelsea had more possession and shots on goal how are they being OUTPLAYED?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on September 18, 2011, 09:56:07 AM
Ah chelski man on this site say that this young man u side go get nuff cutarse...   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 09:59:07 AM
A couple differences,

Ashley Young is null and void, He is in Bosingwa's back pocket.

Nani cannot get past Ashley Cole.

Chelsea is getting in behind Man United.

Chelsea cannot finish.

Ramires and Torres are absolutely in need of bush bath.
Man United has not gotten in behind Chelsea, Brilliant final 3rd defending

Man Utd cannot get a cross in, again brilliant.


Finally Chelsea cannot get a set piece anywhere close to the box, yet Man Utd somehow has managed to secure a couple.  ???

Alyuh men sounding like the Iraqi Defense minister when the US was invading in 2003...
The way he talk you woulda swear was Vietnam he was watching...

Alyuh migh know the game better than me, but I know the score. As much as I hate United this is a no contest
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
A couple differences,

Ashley Young is null and void, He is in Bosingwa's back pocket.

Nani cannot get past Ashley Cole.

Chelsea is getting in behind Man United.

Chelsea cannot finish.

Ramires and Torres are absolutely in need of bush bath.
Man United has not gotten in behind Chelsea, Brilliant final 3rd defending

Man Utd cannot get a cross in, again brilliant.


Finally Chelsea cannot get a set piece anywhere close to the box, yet Man Utd somehow has managed to secure a couple.  ???

Alyuh men sounding like the Iraqi Defense minister when the US was invading in 2003...
The way he talk you woulda swear was Vietnam he was watching...

Alyuh migh know the game better than me, but I know the score. As much as I hate United this is a no contest

Again fella, no one arguing the score. You said " Chelsea not on the same field". That is not true. Anyways, we getting we arse ripped, so.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 10:00:56 AM
Ah chelski man on this site say that this young man u side go get nuff cutarse...   :rotfl:

HAHAHAHA  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:02:10 AM
Ah chelski man on this site say that this young man u side go get nuff cutarse...   :rotfl:

HAHAHAHA  :rotfl:

 :rotfl: laugh now. Ah hope alyuh just eh watching the goal eh. Remmeber you have to travel also. Not every game is home game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:03:05 AM
AVB should take off pull stones ramires
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:03:51 AM
Finally, goal in alyuh mudderc**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
hopefully Torres will get this damn monkey off his back now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
Yellow card for what. The ref taking back the game for Man Utd, put Chelsea back in their place.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on September 18, 2011, 10:10:43 AM
Ah chelski man on this site say that this young man u side go get nuff cutarse...   :rotfl:

HAHAHAHA  :rotfl:

 :rotfl: laugh now. Ah hope alyuh just eh watching the goal eh. Remmeber you have to travel also. Not every game is home game.

Oh hey, elan nice of you to join the conversation... how is the game for you so far? Exciting isn't it  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 18, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
Soft penalty call. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:14:06 AM
What a F@#king joke.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:14:56 AM
Dodge a bullet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Ah chelski man on this site say that this young man u side go get nuff cutarse...   :rotfl:

HAHAHAHA  :rotfl:

 :rotfl: laugh now. Ah hope alyuh just eh watching the goal eh. Remmeber you have to travel also. Not every game is home game.

Oh hey, elan nice of you to join the conversation... how is the game for you so far? Exciting isn't it  :beermug:

I doh hide, I is not ah Man Utd fan that does hide when dey losing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:15:39 AM
What a F@#king joke.

you real sour dread. ah gettting the impression yyou're a Chelsea fan :thinking:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 18, 2011, 10:16:49 AM
Horrendous refereeing in this game!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:19:53 AM
What a F@#king joke.

you real sour dread. ah gettting the impression yyou're a Chelsea fan :thinking:

Fella I does take meh licks, not when the ref bias like that. You saying that's a good PK? Man I done replying to you, you jokey.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:20:58 AM
Horrendous refereeing in this game!!

say what you want about the call. Chelsea were horribly naive on the attack before.

secondly, tackling from behind in the box is almost a guaranteed way to give up a penalty. Nani didn't even try to sell it.
Bosingwa lucky he didn't get send off.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:22:47 AM
What a F@#king joke.

you real sour dread. ah gettting the impression yyou're a Chelsea fan :thinking:

Fella I does take meh licks, not when the ref bias like that. You saying that's a good PK? Man I done replying to you, you jokey.

I was just pulling yuh leg..i done resign myself that this league is the red devil own to lose
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:26:10 AM
That Last free kick that Rooney hit, what was the foul?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 18, 2011, 10:33:51 AM
What! Berbatov getting a sweat?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
3 goal, a post, a crossbar, a missed penalty and man still quarelling bout refereeing

majoring in minors
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 10:41:53 AM
torres  hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 18, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
Torres need an exorcism
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 10:42:03 AM
so much for the monkey....with Torres is like Rise of the planet of the Apes!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 18, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
HEHEAHAEHAHAHAAH

torres
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:42:24 AM
3 goal, a post, a crossbar, a missed penalty and man still quarelling bout refereeing

majoring in minors

That's all that you see?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:42:55 AM
Chelsea beat themselves in this game, Man utd did not beat we. Say what alyuh want. We were better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on September 18, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
Torres needs ah serious bush bath. Send him Moruga.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 18, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
so much for the monkey....with Torres is like Rise of the planet of the Apes!!!

De whole  :cursing: planet!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on September 18, 2011, 10:49:04 AM
Torres needs ah serious bush bath. Send him Moruga.

Mother cornhusk passed away, no hope for Torress
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:55:53 AM
Ok Man Utd you won the points.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 18, 2011, 10:56:25 AM
Rise of the Nani! Man of the match!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:56:37 AM
Torres needs ah serious bush bath. Send him Moruga.
Torres needs ah serious bush bath. Send him Moruga.

Mother cornhusk passed away, no hope for Torress

Could carry him by Matthew in Moruga.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 10:56:53 AM
Rise of the Nani! Man of the match!

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on September 18, 2011, 10:57:56 AM
so much for the monkey....with Torres is like Rise of the planet of the Apes!!!

Lardddd faddaaaa Torres have more dan ah jumbie on he...Wonder which woman sit on he face dat ha he so messed up :'( :'( :-\ :-\  good game, lots of misses that chould have changed the game.  Glory Glory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 18, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
 :violin:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on September 18, 2011, 10:59:32 AM
Great game by both teams. I feel it for Chelsea a little bit as I didn't think Man U were 3 goals better than them at half time. But they real miss and have only themselves to blame.

I nearly forgot Rooney's penalty debacle because of Torres' criminal miss. It was a goal unscored.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Midknight on September 18, 2011, 11:02:05 AM
3 goal, a post, a crossbar, a missed penalty and man still quarelling bout refereeing

majoring in minors

That's all that you see?

from you yeah...

winning big when you not necessarily better is called schooling (as opposed to bossing). Chelsea got schooled in the first half. with a bit of luck they coulda equalise in the second but with a bit of luck Man U coulda score six. The refereeing is the least of you problems
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 11:10:21 AM
3 goal, a post, a crossbar, a missed penalty and man still quarelling bout refereeing

majoring in minors

That's all that you see?

from you yeah...

winning big when you not necessarily better is called schooling (as opposed to bossing). Chelsea got schooled in the first half. with a bit of luck they coulda equalise in the second but with a bit of luck Man U coulda score six. The refereeing is the least of you problems

You have to be joking about schooling.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 11:11:00 AM
And by de way, did any notice that Bosingwa had Ashley Young in his back pocket?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on September 18, 2011, 11:12:39 AM
lord, whatever it is sir alex have, the man need to bottle it.   i have to give united props, the man blooding in youngsters, overhauling the side and still resting it on teams.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 18, 2011, 11:16:18 AM
And by de way, did any notice that Bosingwa had Ashley Young in his back pocket?
Hear nah!! you must be the biggest sour grapes week in week out. Chelsea got fu*King schooled today. They were lucky not to get atleast 6 or 7. Nobody saying Chelsea is garbage, we just saying they was not ready for Man.United today, and was beaten because of that. The ref did a good game. I still think that shit tackle from Ashley on Chicarito should have been a penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 18, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
What a F@#king joke.

you real sour dread. ah gettting the impression yyou're a Chelsea fan :thinking:

Fella I does take meh licks, not when the ref bias like that. You saying that's a good PK? Man I done replying to you, you jokey.
Horrendous refereeing in this game!!
Yea it was, Man.United should have gotton a penalty on that shit tackle from Cole on Chicarito :pissedoff:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 18, 2011, 11:40:20 AM
What a F@#king joke.

you real sour dread. ah gettting the impression yyou're a Chelsea fan :thinking:

Fella I does take meh licks, not when the ref bias like that. You saying that's a good PK? Man I done replying to you, you jokey.
Horrendous refereeing in this game!!
Yea it was, Man.United should have gotton a penalty on that shit tackle from Cole on Chicarito :pissedoff:

 It have people on this forum no matter what will only see non calls or decisions as 'United bias'. Yuh just wasting yuh time because they stuck in their mentality.
On another note Evans may be slow and weak but he can hit a pass. That ball he hit Nani with that lead to Nani scoring was sweet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 18, 2011, 11:40:55 AM
3 big points, top of the league by 2 points with 15 points from 15 , goals flying in the net week in week out

Elan go and pleasure yourself to Torres and f**k off until we meet again... UNITED!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 18, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Very good game. Chelsea didn't do enough to win it but Man U looked beatable. Chelsea took too long to put on Mikel because they were struggling to keep the ball in midfield and their finishing was ridiculously bad. United just took more of their chances.

Not a great United team in terms of pure talent but it's amazing what they can do by being highly cohesive and having excellent finishing. That looks like it's going to win them the title, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 18, 2011, 12:08:29 PM
And by de way, did any notice that Bosingwa had Ashley Young in his back pocket?
Hear nah!! you must be the biggest sour grapes week in week out. Chelsea got fu*King schooled today. They were lucky not to get atleast 6 or 7. Nobody saying Chelsea is garbage, we just saying they was not ready for Man.United today, and was beaten because of that. The ref did a good game. I still think that shit tackle from Ashley on Chicarito should have been a penalty.
Ball was out of play already. You can't give a penalty for that. If the ball was still on the field, penalty for sure.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 12:09:40 PM
And by de way, did any notice that Bosingwa had Ashley Young in his back pocket?
Hear nah!! you must be the biggest sour grapes week in week out. Chelsea got fu*King schooled today. They were lucky not to get atleast 6 or 7. Nobody saying Chelsea is garbage, we just saying they was not ready for Man.United today, and was beaten because of that. The ref did a good game. I still think that shit tackle from Ashley on Chicarito should have been a penalty.

Man Utd played no setta football brother. Count the crosses, the final balls, the shot on goal, etc. F@#k with alyuh giddy talk. I gave you all yuh 3 points. But you all does get carried away to much man. Ashley Young eh Beat Boswinga once, not once. Nani couldn't get pass Cole either (obviously he's getting smart as he cuts inside and smash a beauty). Anderson couldn't see his way.

So doh come round me about being sour. Chelsea was up to Man utd today big time as the score line is very flattering to Man Utd. Yo all does handle a win like you never won anything before, yuh swear is schools girls.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 12:10:25 PM
3 big points, top of the league by 2 points with 15 points from 15 , goals flying in the net week in week out

Elan go and pleasure yourself to Torres and f**k off until we meet again... UNITED!!!

Where were you mid week?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 18, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
3 big points, top of the league by 2 points with 15 points from 15 , goals flying in the net week in week out

Elan go and pleasure yourself to Torres and f**k off until we meet again... UNITED!!!

Where were you mid week?

watching United save their energy to deal with your team today.. imagine we were like 6/10 today.. what would have happened if we near 8 or 9?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 18, 2011, 12:16:59 PM
3 big points, top of the league by 2 points with 15 points from 15 , goals flying in the net week in week out

Elan go and pleasure yourself to Torres and f**k off until we meet again... UNITED!!!

Where were you mid week?

watching United save their energy to deal with your team today.. imagine we were like 6/10 today.. what would have happened if we near 8 or 9?

have tuh like alyuh yuh know.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 18, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Both teams were unspectacular but Man U was very clinical in the first half - Chelsea looks good in the middle but lacking confidence up top, and not agressive enough at the back

Plenty goal throw way too jed lol..

Game shoulda been like 6-4 to Man U...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 18, 2011, 12:45:16 PM
Chelsea beat themselves in this game, Man utd did not beat we. Say what alyuh want. We were better.

You serious with this "Chelsea beat themselves" talk?  Both teams had misses but counting Rooney's penalty and the bad pass to Berbatov that easily should have been two more.  Even if you want to count the Ramires and Torres misses, you'd still have to throw in Rooney's dribbler off the upright and ManU still winning this game.

I ent see City play... but ManU made a liar out of me today, even with the misses they were really impressive in creating opportunity after opportunity.  And Ashley Cole lucky he survive to see the end of the game after that challenge on Hernandez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 18, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Thought point 9 was pretty interesting.

Ten points on Manchester United 3-1 Chelsea

September 18, 2011

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/09/18/ten-points-on-manchester-united-3-1-chelsea/ (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/09/18/ten-points-on-manchester-united-3-1-chelsea/)

A crazily open game with no overall pattern, so here are some disparate observations.

1. Early on, there was an amazing lack of pressure upon the player in possession in midfield, particularly when Anderson and Darren Fletcher had the ball. This seems to be an early trend this season around Europe – in Serie A games it has been particularly obvious that sides aren’t closing down until the opposition get into the final third of the pitch. Considering Barcelona are currently the best side around and base their game without the ball around pressing, it’s a strange development.

2. When Manchester United played Chelsea four times last season, the major trend was that Chelsea needed a strong player to stay goalside of Wayne Rooney – when he dropped into the hole, he was a major threat. Andre Villas-Boas wasn’t naive enough to go without a holder, but he did play Raul Meireles there. The Portuguese midfielder is a functional player who can play there (arguably his major quality is his ability to ‘do a job’; it’s difficult to identify a particular area of the game he excels at), but probably not against a player as dangerous as Rooney. Jon Obi Mikel may have been a better bet:

3. United have often been extremely fluid in attacking positions this season, but today there were much more structured. The wide players tended to stay wider, for example – compare Young’s positioning today with his action zones against Tottenham on the opening day.

4. The interesting thing about this week’s “story” about Fernando Torres criticising his teammates was that Torres actually offered a good analysis of the reasons why he hasn’t thrived at Chelsea. His major source of goals at Liverpool was from through-balls played into his path, and his comments that he wanted a more ‘vertical’ game at Chelsea with creative midfielders who played the ball more quickly was a fine analysis. It doesn’t excuse his own poor finishing, but it does explain why he hasn’t suited Chelsea – or why Chelsea hasn’t suited him. His brighter performance today came because Chelsea were trying to slide balls through the defence – see his goal, as well as his inexplicable miss.

5. In hindsight, this wasn’t a game for Frank Lampard. Mikel could have dealt with Rooney, and Chelsea would have been able to press better, as well as assist Torres more effectively, with two of Ramires, Meireles and Juan Mata playing just ahead. Lampard has been an extremely effective player – without ever being an extremely talented player – for many years, largely because he was perfect for a specific role in a specific system. Villas-Boas has changed that system, and now roles have changed, even within the same starting formation. It is too soon to write off Lampard, but he may have to adapt to retain his place as a regular.

6. If Villas-Boas is trying to modernise Chelsea and create a better passing side, he’d do well to look at his centre-backs’ ability on the ball. Jonny Evans had a 95% pass completion rate, Phil Jones’ was 88%, but John Terry and Branislav Ivanovic both finished on 77%.

7. Throughout all Sir Alex Ferguson’s sides, perhaps the main similarity has been the use of width, and the use of diagonal balls. That was particularly obvious today – Evans played a great crossfield ball to Nani for the goal, and Anderson did the same shortly before Nani set up Javier Hernandez in the first half. Rooney often dropped deep and played a shorter diagonal. When a 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1 meets a 4-3-3, often the main advantage for the former is the fact that the wingers are often immediately against the opposition full-back – the wide forward in the 4-3-3 usually watches the opposition full-back rather than covers his own. Twice in a row at Old Trafford, United’s right-winger has dominated Ashley Cole.

8. When ahead, players who can come off the bench and play simple passes to keep the ball are invaluable. Michael Carrick is the classic example, but Dimitar Berbatov did well, not conceding possession once from 14 passes.

9. United conceded 22 shots here, 22 at Bolton, 20 against Arsenal, 21 against West Brom and 16 against West Brom. These are surprisingly high figures (they’ve allowed more shots than any other Premier League team) – the question is whether this is because of defensive slackness, or because opponents are overly-keen to test David De Gea.

10. Despite a couple of errors here, Villas-Boas is doing a good job at Chelsea. The side needed an overhaul of its first XI and its general football ideology, and already the side seems fresher, younger and more technical. They competed well here, and were unfortunate to be 3-0 down at half-time. Some managers would have feared a thrashing and shut up shop, but the introduction of Nicolas Anelka for Lampard – and a change to more of a 4-2-1-3 – showed bravery, positivity and confidence in his players, and it broadly worked well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on September 19, 2011, 08:29:58 AM
saw the match live at Old Trafford.. my first time there
sorry...cant find the words to describe ( yet )...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on September 19, 2011, 08:33:31 AM
me doh favor no side but man u playing some of the best ball i ever see from a premier league side this year yes....with young talent to boot.

jones, ferdinand, evans, rooney, smalling, young, welbeck, cleverly....look seven starters for capello euro 2012 side right there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on September 19, 2011, 12:42:08 PM
Which part Big Mags say he see de match Old Trafford or the All England Lawn Tennis Club???

 
Djokovic have Federer in he back pocket....Manu have Chelsea in theirs:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on September 19, 2011, 01:48:10 PM
Loving the false sense of security men bathing in on this thread...

If is one thing Sunday's game would have showed is that for all the click the offense clicking, the defense is very vulnerable.

Man United were deserved winners but 3-0 at the half was not reflective of the game and it could have easily gone in another direction. 22 shots conceded including a number of sitters tells a story.

Allyuh doh get tie up, Smalling is not a right back (will soon be found out), men like Evans and Wellbeck is not quality and De Gea have level bore to get.

Man U is definitely the form team right now, i have to concede that the movement and speed of the offense and interchanging of play is breathtaking.. But let us not forget that Chelsea looked just as imperious at this stage last season. With the players Chelsea have now, the fluidity will come and they will peak at the right time.

Man U must fizzle... Is only a matter of time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 19, 2011, 03:00:07 PM
Man definitely porous at the back... Noticed that in a big way from scince the Arsenal game... but if yuh scoring more than yuh conceding...then does it really matter?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 19, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
fizzle or not, we will always find a way to win. :) . Glory Glory ! Beat us if you can
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 19, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
Man definitely porous at the back... Noticed that in a big way from scince the Arsenal game... but if yuh scoring more than yuh conceding...then does it really matter?
Always true. They do leave a lot of space in front of the defence (the same spot that Barca killed them from in the CL Final) though. A side with better defenders and holding mids may be able to blunt their attack while a false 9 or playmaker exploits the space in front of the defenders. All speculation of course. But it makes me wish Arsenal had fielded a full strength side for the Old Trafford game. What a game that would have been. Ah well. Shoulda coulda woulda.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on September 19, 2011, 07:02:15 PM
Hope some of allyuh realize de porous defence allyuh talking bout is a makeshift one. A young, new GK. 1 defender in his regular starting position(evra). Fletcher in his 2nd game in what seems like a couple yrs. De entire midfield and forward line, except maybe Nani were a little off in terms of touches and sharpness. Not discounting Chelsea's efforts at pressuring de ball, but many, many Man U passes were just inaccurate and mishit. In my opinion both teams had opportunities and the flow was somewhat even..........the thing that stood out to me was that even without leaders like vidic, ferdinand, and giggs on the field, this group looked like they believed even when playing below top form that they would still beat Chelsea. I haven't seen that or gotten that feeling from watching this matchup in quite a few years. I think with a better defensive presence in the middle of the field, Man U will win this league by a wide margin. Chelsea fans better hope for dem 2 african to come back and be the forces they were a few years ago. Without that, allyuh like Tyson after he got knocked to fack out and people stopped fearing him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 19, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
Hope some of allyuh realize de porous defence allyuh talking bout is a makeshift one. A young, new GK. 1 defender in his regular starting position(evra). Fletcher in his 2nd game in what seems like a couple yrs. De entire midfield and forward line, except maybe Nani were a little off in terms of touches and sharpness. Not discounting Chelsea's efforts at pressuring de ball, but many, many Man U passes were just inaccurate and mishit. In my opinion both teams had opportunities and the flow was somewhat even..........the thing that stood out to me was that even without leaders like vidic, ferdinand, and giggs on the field, this group looked like they believed even when playing below top form that they would still beat Chelsea. I haven't seen that or gotten that feeling from watching this matchup in quite a few years. I think with a better defensive presence in the middle of the field, Man U will win this league by a wide margin. Chelsea fans better hope for dem 2 african to come back and be the forces they were a few years ago. Without that, allyuh like Tyson after he got knocked to fack out and people stopped fearing him.

How about dat? Doh mind dem yuh know dey graspin at straws,because dey know despite not playing at our best we still got the result as usual! And dat hutin dem bad!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on September 19, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
All theory aside, the make shift team cut Chelski and Arse-anal..... talk is cheap.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 19, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
All theory aside, the make shift team cut Chelski and Arse-anal..... talk is cheap.

 :beermug:

8 f**king 2 and 3-1 as well as missing a penalty and hitting the crossbar and the post and while they had chances we didnt have our 1st choice CB's and used a new to the positon RB and have a 20 year old keeper

2 shit teams on the way out of their "challenging United" years... 19 titles, 3 CL , 12 FA Cups .. f**k off London

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on September 20, 2011, 08:20:10 AM
Loving the false sense of security men bathing in on this thread...

Man U is definitely the form team right now, i have to concede that the movement and speed of the offense and interchanging of play is breathtaking.. But let us not forget that Chelsea looked just as imperious at this stage last season. With the players Chelsea have now, the fluidity will come and they will peak at the right time.

Man U must fizzle... Is only a matter of time.

Chelsea las year was a whole different story. For one thing they was Beating West Brom, Wigan and Sunderland. The very first big Sam they meet they lose. Even during the run I remember Kev saying that they wasn't Playing well.

United have a lot of upads because the players now getting minutes as regular starters. Chelsea players was always gong to get worse so much so that none of the players from that early Chelsea run are better today than they were last year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 11:07:15 AM
Somebody link the Leeds game por favor.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 20, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Somebody link the Leeds game por favor.

Scroll down it have some link there
http://myp2p.cm/football.php
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 2cents on September 20, 2011, 11:20:27 AM
Paul Pogba gonna make his debut in the game today....looks like we have something here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgyBOwbiTPY
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 20, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
Good looking out, DHW. Will check the link.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 20, 2011, 01:01:11 PM
OWEN!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 20, 2011, 01:19:15 PM
OWEN!! x2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 20, 2011, 01:32:42 PM
Giggs  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 20, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
we look good, especially the more experienced players such as Owen, Berba, Giggs and Park.. the 4 of them are running the show

Kiko and Diouf on the wings look nervous and not trusting their ability enough, Valencia at RB works well but he too looks not interested, Fabio is pushing himself down the pecking order of defenders and Fryers and Carrick are doing a very comfortable job as the CB's.. Amos has nothing to do

Looking forward to seeing some more academy and reserve players come on and do well such as Pogba and L.Cole(pace)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on September 20, 2011, 02:08:52 PM
we look good, especially the more experienced players such as Owen, Berba, Giggs and Park.. the 4 of them are running the show

Kiko and Diouf on the wings look nervous and not trusting their ability enough, Valencia at RB works well but he too looks not interested, Fabio is pushing himself down the pecking order of defenders and Fryers and Carrick are doing a very comfortable job as the CB's.. Amos has nothing to do

Looking forward to seeing some more academy and reserve players come on and do well such as Pogba and L.Cole(pace)


Saw Pogba train in DC, de man has real ball handling skills, kinda like Dwarika during the intercol days.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 20, 2011, 02:17:20 PM
Saw Pogba train in DC, de man has real ball handling skills, kinda like Dwarika during the intercol days.

Look how you gone and blight de man dey...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on September 20, 2011, 09:25:48 PM
we look good, especially the more experienced players such as Owen, Berba, Giggs and Park.. the 4 of them are running the show

Kiko and Diouf on the wings look nervous and not trusting their ability enough, Valencia at RB works well but he too looks not interested, Fabio is pushing himself down the pecking order of defenders and Fryers and Carrick are doing a very comfortable job as the CB's.. Amos has nothing to do

Looking forward to seeing some more academy and reserve players come on and do well such as Pogba and L.Cole(pace)


Saw Pogba train in DC, de man has real ball handling skills, kinda like Dwarika during the intercol days.

I have seen him play reserve games, and he will be the real deal. A lot of skill and flair; no look passes, long range shots, combination play. Not sure what is going on with Morrison who I think is better. Less baggage and more maturity with Pogba though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 21, 2011, 06:49:51 AM
we look good, especially the more experienced players such as Owen, Berba, Giggs and Park.. the 4 of them are running the show

Kiko and Diouf on the wings look nervous and not trusting their ability enough, Valencia at RB works well but he too looks not interested, Fabio is pushing himself down the pecking order of defenders and Fryers and Carrick are doing a very comfortable job as the CB's.. Amos has nothing to do

Looking forward to seeing some more academy and reserve players come on and do well such as Pogba and L.Cole(pace)


Saw Pogba train in DC, de man has real ball handling skills, kinda like Dwarika during the intercol days.

I have seen him play reserve games, and he will be the real deal. A lot of skill and flair; no look passes, long range shots, combination play. Not sure what is going on with Morrison who I think is better. Less baggage and more maturity with Pogba though.

Morrison injured.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 24, 2011, 11:04:22 AM
Nani ripping today, bess goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 24, 2011, 11:22:06 AM
Nani's goal was pretty average.. nutten special.  De Gea made two fantastic saves, flapped at two high balls and flopped in the box on minimal contact on a corner.  All in all a pretty busy first half.

EDIT:  I was thinking more of the shot itself... but yeah ah have to give Nani props for getting past the 3 or 4 Stokes practice cones.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 24, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
Nani second best dribbler behind Messi. We need tuh enjoy him while we can we know in a couple of years he bussin it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 24, 2011, 11:26:47 AM
Nani second best dribbler behind Messi. We need tuh enjoy him while we can we know in a couple of years he bussin it.
Am, yuh forget a man named Arjen Robben or what? But yes, Nani is a borse. Make sure allyuh squeeze Madrid balls hard on dat transfer fee.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 24, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Nani second best dribbler behind Messi. We need tuh enjoy him while we can we know in a couple of years he bussin it.
Am, yuh forget a man named Arjen Robben or what? But yes, Nani is a borse. Make sure allyuh squeeze Madrid balls hard on dat transfer fee.

It have plenty players on that list along with Robben... nutten wrong with ah li'l hyperbole I suppose.

 
1-1 now... Crouch with a header from 5 yards while De Gea was adjusting he cement boots... or maybe he was just keeping de grass warm where he was standing.  Big penalty shout from United, but despite what the idiot commentator bawling and carrying on about, that was never a penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 24, 2011, 12:22:00 PM
sportmax is rel shit dread , feed just cut just so  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 24, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
This is the best game I see Pennant play in years.
Stoke is a tough out at home.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 24, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
This is the best game I see Pennant play in years.
Stoke is a tough out at home.

Tough place to play.  Man U did well to come away with a point.  De Gea made two good saves towards the end of the 1st half.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 24, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Nani serious this rounds, he doing everything.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 24, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
tough trip out of the way, fair result... missed Wazza today, none of the strikers were good
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 24, 2011, 02:42:17 PM
Nani second best dribbler behind Messi. We need tuh enjoy him while we can we know in a couple of years he bussin it.
Am, yuh forget a man named Arjen Robben or what? But yes, Nani is a borse. Make sure allyuh squeeze Madrid balls hard on dat transfer fee.

I hear yuh on Robben, but I will still take Nani; he is unpredictable in his dribbles. Should we sqeeze Madrid's balls as hard as all yuh sqeeze Barca for Cesc ? ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 24, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
Nani second best dribbler behind Messi. We need tuh enjoy him while we can we know in a couple of years he bussin it.
Am, yuh forget a man named Arjen Robben or what? But yes, Nani is a borse. Make sure allyuh squeeze Madrid balls hard on dat transfer fee.

I hear yuh on Robben, but I will still take Nani; he is unpredictable in his dribbles. Should we sqeeze Madrid's balls as hard as all yuh sqeeze Barca for Cesc ? ;D
Why yuh hadda go and say dat man? Dat was uncalled for. I still sour bout dat. Altho I doh know if they woulda do better and I guess he start to make noise bout riding.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 27, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
Nobody watching the CL matchup with Basel?  United get two early goals from Wellbeck and like they switch off.  Basel come out loaded fuh bear in de second half and get two quick goals in the 59' and 61' from Fabian Frei and ole man Alexander Frei.  De Gea is ah real yuteman... one minute is brilliant save, next minute is hold yuh head and bawl.

The quality of the cross for the second goal from F. Frei to A. Frei was class though... right side outswinger, Ferdinand stride for stride with A. Frei on the inside shoulder... ball swerve right around him to find A. Frei head.   

Quality.


EDIT:  Look thing... Valencia just give 'way ah real headscratch penalty... 3-2 Basel in the 76'
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 27, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
Whey allyuh!

Yeah Bakes, the cross for the 2nd goal was exquisite.

Man U like they ketch Arsenal disease. Think you have a side beaten and stop playing. Now that Basel think they could win, so is pressure.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 27, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Basel should know by now, we play to d final blow. Go for d winner devils!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on September 27, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Steups
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 27, 2011, 04:17:08 PM
Ferdinone is a donkey when it comes to 1v1 defending. Who vex lorse.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 27, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
The year of the Nani! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 27, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
No excuses, we were shit.. f**king 4-5-1 at home

Anyway bigger problems.. Evra - Starting to get scary now how poor he has been over the last year or so, his positional play is atrocious , he gets sucked into the CB's leaving a huge space of our left side, key example vs Barca when Pedro scored.. also his crossing is piss poor and decision making in the final third is average at best....Fabio too, be it at LB or RB ...does the same things as Evra except he gets caught out of position up the field.. It was scary to see how far ahead Smalling and Jones are at RB when its not even their natural f**king position... I think we need to buy a proper Left Back either in Jan or definitely in the summer as I've been watching this for a year now and today justified my decision that Evra needs competition or a replacement and young Fabio will be an understudy and backup in both Full back positions... my choice as of now is Baines (26 , mature age, set piece threat, gets forward well, defensively sound)

Check these stats and vid on Baines : In the 2010–11 campaign Baines played every minute of Everton's Premier League games, as well as scoring seven goals in all competitions. His contribution was rewarded with the club's Player of the Season, Players' Player of the Season, and Goal of the Season awards. He also contributed 11 assists throughout the season and was 5th overall in the League and the highest assisting defender.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XtmZ2Vl9ZJE
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 27, 2011, 11:16:16 PM
No excuses, we were shit.. f**king 4-5-1 at home

Anyway bigger problems.. Evra - Starting to get scary now how poor he has been over the last year or so, his positional play is atrocious , he gets sucked into the CB's leaving a huge space of our left side, key example vs Barca when Pedro scored.. also his crossing is piss poor and decision making in the final third is average at best....Fabio too, be it at LB or RB ...does the same things as Evra except he gets caught out of position up the field.. It was scary to see how far ahead Smalling and Jones are at RB when its not even their natural f**king position... I think we need to buy a proper Left Back either in Jan or definitely in the summer as I've been watching this for a year now and today justified my decision that Evra needs competition or a replacement and young Fabio will be an understudy and backup in both Full back positions... my choice as of now is Baines (26 , mature age, set piece threat, gets forward well, defensively sound)


I think you are being a bit hard on ever and getting ahead. Evra is a quality player (never believed he was better than Cole  ;D  ) and you will be hard pressed right now to replace him. I think like Ferdinand and Vidic he is getting lazy and complacent. For defenders they get a lot of protection in England and games like these (CL) where ref could careless about who playing, they are required to step up their game and sometime get caught wanting.

Can't see Baines being better than Evra AT Man Utd. Evra covers a lot of ground and works really hard. I also think he is trying to evolve his game, like a Bosingwa, Alves kinda player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on September 27, 2011, 11:21:29 PM
Actually I think Baines is a terrible defender. He is a great attacking fullback but you'll need the holding midfielder to cover him, which will weaken United's usual tactical flexibility in midfield. United don't need him in attack and he will weaken their defence.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FireBrand on September 30, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
De Gea warned over stolen doughnut.
By: ESPNsoccernet staff.


Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea has found himself in a sticky situation after being warned for allegedly eating a Krispy Kreme doughnut at a local shop without paying for it.

David De Gea has made a few errors during his fledgling Man United career and one of them may have been in Tesco.

De Gea, who joined United this summer from Atletico Madrid, earns around £70,000-a-week but apparently decided that he wasn't willing to shell out £1.19 for the sugary treat and, according to the Sun, ate it in store, before attempting to leave.

The Spaniard was tackled by security staff, who showed him CCTV footage of the incident in the store's "stop and search" room.

A source told the paper: "They [De Gea and his two friends] weren't very subtle. They swaggered in chatting loudly in Spanish. The security guards who monitor the CCTV watched two of them take a doughnut each out of the Krispy Kreme cabinet. Incredibly, they then appeared to try to leave without paying - or buying anything else for that matter."

De Gea avoided a jam as he was given warning and police were not called to the scene. On Thursday night a Tesco spokesman said: "A customer was spoken to by our security team and the issue was resolved."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on September 30, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
Actually I think Baines is a terrible defender.

A little harsh no?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 01, 2011, 09:57:28 AM
is it me or anyone find lindegard (forget how you spell it) Looking better in goal than Da Gea? Watched him a few games now and he has been solid
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 01, 2011, 10:09:43 AM
is it me or anyone find lindegard (forget how you spell it) Looking better in goal than Da Gea? Watched him a few games now and he has been solid

I thought De Gea was coming along nicely..every game he had improved.. this is just rotation, I fully expect De Gea to be back in goal vs Liverpool on the 15th

We were garbage today, Anderson was total shit, thank god he scored that goal, Fergie would probably set the hairdryer on low now
Evra has been a joke, too high up the field doing f**k all when in possession and when it's lost causes our defence to be a mess when someone covers his absence
Rooney was very rusty and Hernandez was offside almost every play

We need Vidic, Smalling and Cleverley back to galvanise the team .. the balance isnt right at the moment hence all the madness in the last 2 games

After the break and away to Liverpool I expect :
De Gea, Smalling Vidic Rio/Jones Evra Nani Fletcher Cleverley Young Rooney Hernandez/Welbeck (depends on the game, away I'd start with Welbeck)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 01, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
I would start Welbeck over Hernandez because I think he contributes to a more uptempo game and can play one twos around the box. I think he also helps Anderson's passing game when he plays up front. Hernandez is not a good passer and I think he slows down the play when he receives the ball with pace. I would bring him off the bench.  Evans should eat bench once Smalling is healthy; Smalling reads the plays better and is strong on his man, plus he shows more leadership skills than Evans. I woul keep Jones at center back during the year becasue he needs to develop as a defender in that position. Basil was the only side that capitalized on their chances because they had the best strikers we have played thus far. Hopefully by the time we play Liverstool and Citeh who have very good strikers we have a settled back four. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 01, 2011, 02:20:54 PM
United's very own Homer Simpson  ;D

(http://s1.proxy04.twitpic.com/photos/large/412031410.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 01, 2011, 07:22:13 PM
Good win by United... on a day when they were both lucky and bad.  Norwich are a bit hard done by a 2-0 scoreline, as I said to Kev in the Sunderland thread they real lack quality up front otherwise they coulda score three today.  Bennett did shit by not passing to far post to Tierney (? I think it was).  Morison did the same with an opportunity to set up Houlahan for a tap in far post.  Then Pilkington robbed Valencia (penalty mid-week, disaster giveaway today... how is that Valencia at RB working out Fergie) in the box, only to slot wide in a 1-v-1.  Later Pilkington's deflection off Anderson... off the post...

But taking nothing away from United... Wellbeck is one heck of a talisman.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on October 06, 2011, 08:08:47 AM
Rooney Dad Arrested
Manchester United star Wayne Rooney's father and two other members of his family have been arrested in connection with the investigation into betting irregularities that has also seen Motherwell's Steve Jennings taken into custody.


GettyImages
Wayne Rooney senior has been taken into custody
• Motherwell's Jennings arrested

Rooney senior, 48, was arrested at his home in the West Derby area of Liverpool, while uncle Richie, 54, has also been detained, according to the Daily Mirror. Later, it was revealed that cousin Thomas was also being questioned.

A statement from Merseyside police read: ''Detectives have today executed warrants at 10 addresses across Merseyside and Glasgow and arrested nine men as part of an investigation into suspicious betting activity.

''The arrests are the culmination of a joint operation with the Gambling Commission and the nine who have been arrested for conspiracy to defraud are being interviewed by detectives.

"Those arrested are a 29-year-old from Bootle, a 48-year-old from West Derby, a 54-year-old from Norris Green, a 26-year-old from Croxteth, a 22-year-old from Kirkdale, a 31-year-old from Litherland, a 68-year-old from Fazakerley, a 36-year-old from Kirkby and a 26-year-old from Glasgow.''

News broke of Jennings' arrest on Thursday morning after an investigation into the game between Hearts and Motherwell on December 14, 2010 began nine months ago.

Jennings was sent off with eight minutes to go and it has emerged that ''several bets were made on a player being sent off including a £500 gamble placed through a new account opened in Liverpool at 10/1 odds'' according to the paper.

soccernet.com
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 06, 2011, 08:44:47 AM
Actually I think Baines is a terrible defender.

A little harsh no?
Don't think it's harsh. His tackling, reading of play, positioning and attacking of the ball are all quite poor. He plays like a converted winger. Going forward he is top class but I think if he wasn't so good in attack he would probably struggle to get into a Premier League side. I suppose I'm always hard on fullbacks who can't defend but he definitely falls into that category.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 09, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
 ;D :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/v/6b-s4xQfZ_M&feature=related
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 10, 2011, 10:56:11 AM
;D :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/v/6b-s4xQfZ_M&feature=related

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on October 10, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
^^^^ :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 13, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
So Rooney gets 3 games for his red card. Once again he proves that he is an imps who crumbles mentally when things are not going his way. Capello would make a bold statement if he left his arse home for the Euros.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on October 13, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
So Rooney gets 3 games for his red card. Once again he proves that he is an imps who crumbles mentally when things are not going his way. Capello would make a bold statement if he left his arse home for the Euros.

I would actually leave him home if I was coach. With england's luck these days it would be a tall order to get out of a group. This means for three crucial games he would not be at the coach's disposal. If they get out then you'd have to add him to the mix. Keep him home and work on building a strong team for the Euros.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 14, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
So Rooney gets 3 games for his red card.

Harsh... but it was petulant and full-breed dotish.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 14, 2011, 05:50:54 PM
  Home U.K. Home News   
 Chronicles of Nani: From the crushing poverty of life as an outcast to United hero By Chris Wheeler

Last updated at 11:19 PM on 14th October 2011


 May 2007. Aurelio Pereira receives a phone call from Carlos Queiroz, his old friend and Sir Alex
Ferguson's assistant at Manchester United. Something is troubling Queiroz.
He has arrived in Portugal with his chief executive David Gill to hold transfer talks over the latest winger to roll off Sporting Lisbon's production line and wants to be sure that United are making the right decision by paying £17million for Luis Carlos Almeida da Cunha, otherwise known as Nani.

'Carlos was in a hotel in Lisbon,' recalls Pereira, the 64-year-old head of Sporting's scouting network who is revered in Portugal for unearthing stars like Luis Figo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulo Futre and Ricardo Quaresma but rarely speaks publicly about his proteges.

 Heavens above: Nani has grown into one of Manchester United's stars
'He wanted to know about Nani's mentality and if he could handle the pressure of playing for United.
'He didn't want to know if he had good feet. He knew all about that. He wanted to know about his personality, how he could cope with a different country and a different team.

'It was a big responsibility for Carlos because it was a 25m euro deal and he wanted to be absolutely sure. I calmed him and said that, yes, he was buying a complete player.'
Hours later United shake hands with Sporting on a deal to take the 20-year-old to Old Trafford, and the next chapter in Nani's remarkable life story begins.   

 The number 184 is daubed on the door in blue paint but the street, if you can call it that, has no name; just a dusty track that cuts through the long grass to the place where Nani was raised in Santa Filomena, a shanty town built on the hillside overlooking Amadora northwest of Lisbon.

Thirty per cent of people between the ages of 15 and 30 who live here have a criminal record. It is unwise to pay a visit unless you are in the company of a local like Alcides Mendes, the founder and president of Espaco Jovem, the youth association that helped keep Nani away from crime after he was separated from his parents who had brought him from the African islands of Cape Verde at an early age.

His father Domingos returned there on holiday when Nani was seven and didn't come back. His mother Maria do Ceu left Portugal for Holland when he was 12, although by then the youngest of their 10 children had already chosen to live here in Santa Filomena with his aunt Antonia and her family, often sleeping six to a room with his brother and cousins.

Through the iron bars protecting the windows there is a clear view down to the railway tracks which Nani would follow on foot during the six-mile round trip to training with his first club Real Massama. Sometimes, if he was late, he would jump on the train and dodge the ticket collector. On the other hand, it is only a short two-minute walk to the concrete five-a-side pitch in the middle of Santa Filomena where he mastered the art of street football.

'That's the big market for us,' says Pereira. 'The African kids from these quarters like Nani. Even now you can see how he mixes the high level of performance with the tricks of the street.'
 
It was here that Nani learned how to become two-footed, a quality he has used to devastating effect coming in off the right wing for United.

'I'd stay for hours on that ring and kick with my left and right foot,' he says. 'I wanted badly to play as well with my left as I played with the right.'
Of the 80 poor kids in Santa Filomena, Mendes remembers that Nani was the 'only one who didn't stop chasing his dream'.

'He would choose the weaker players for his side in order to always have the ball,' says Mendes. 'It was five-a-side, winner stays on, and every time he lost he would be sick. He was totally focussed on winning. He just wanted to be out there playing, nothing else.

'It was very hard for the kids to know the world outside this place. The problem here is that most of the people are not immigrants but they're not Portuguese either.
'They were born here but their parents are from the former African colonies like Cape Verde, so they are outcasts in society (Nani did not become a Portuguese citizen until the age of 18). Even in school they create separate classes for them.

'Nani's was a small house but the family were close and there was a great relationship between the cousins.
'His older brother was very important for Nani. He used to work in construction and sometimes Nani would go with him to help at work. He developed this strong feeling of family even though they were poor. It was a home.'

In spite of the hardship, Nani has happy memories of his upbringing. His other favourite pastime with the association was capoeira, a combination of Brazilian martial art and music. The trademark somersaults that follow each of his goals were a common sight on the streets of Santa Filomena.

'My friends said I was nuts but I wanted to keep something from capoeira and that's why I always celebrate with a flip-flop,' said Nani in a television interview in Portugal this week. 'People would always talk about that kid Nani (his sister gave him the name), the one with the curly hair.

'Life was tough but joyful. The only problem was hunger. We had not very good conditions at home, not much food. And it was my brother Paulo who'd sometimes bring food home, like cookies. 'We would steal fruit and other stuff to eat. I went to some bad paths, but I would always return to the right one.

'You can't change or hide the past, and I'm not ashamed of the place I was born or the hard times I went through. If I reached where I wanted it was my effort and will, and it was worth it.'
Nani denies that his dad walked out on the family, insisting that red tape prevented him from returning to Portugal. The two men met up again in 2006 and Nani recalls: 'He tried to explain to me that he never abandoned me, but I just stopped the conversation and told him: "You don't need to. I'm cool. I'm happy, I know what happened, so you don't owe me any explanations".

'I didn't miss him so much because my brothers filled his role. They would give me all the support and love. I was the little boy, the protected, and nobody could touch me.'   
 Nani has not forgotten the times when he relied on Real Massama for food and his friends for clothes.

'I had lots of friends who helped me a lot and supported me because I had many difficulties,' he says. 'I couldn't afford expensive clothes so my colleagues would give me the trainers they weren't using anymore or their clothes. Sometimes they invited me to spend a week at their houses.

'I became a son of Massama. They gave me everything – boots and food. I had privileges that nobody else in the club had.'

Nani's mentor at the Second Division club, Luis Dias, admits that he could have joined Benfica instead of following his destiny to Sporting Lisbon and Old Trafford. Dias, now a youth coach at Sporting, was Nani's Under 11 coach when Massama were invited to play at the Stadium of Light by then Benfica boss Graeme Souness.
 
'It's true he was training with Benfica as well as Sporting,' says Dias. 'Benfica brought Massama to play in a big stadium in front of all the fans before a game against Boavista.

'But it was raining a lot that day and Souness said the kids couldn't play because they would destroy the grass. When you promise something to a player of that age you have to keep it. Benfica failed in their promise.

'They approached Nani all the time but he thought they didn't respect him. He didn't want to be a commodity. Although he was poor, Nani was very proud.'
Sensing the youngster's embarrassment at having to carry his boots in a plastic bag, Dias arranged for a senior player to donate a Lotto boot bag. It was all part of the special attention given to Nani.

'I had to be coach, psychologist, doctor, driver sometimes,' says Dias. 'I knew my job wasn't just training him. I also had to be a tutor, control what he was eating, how he was sleeping, go to the school and make sure he was going to classes. The things normally parents do.

'At Massama, he would have lunch before training and always have dinner afterwards. It was something we didn't do with the other kids. If he didn't eat at the club he probably wouldn't have eaten at all.' 
 It's half an hour's drive from Lisbon, south across the 11-mile Vasco da Gama Bridge and the mouth of the River Tagus, before you reach the countryside around Alcochete and the place where Nani polished his skills.

Even then, as you pass by the fields of cattle and sobreiro trees that produce Portugal's cork, there is a only a small orange road sign to indicate the final turn to the Academia do Sporting Clube de Portugal.
It is almost 10 years since Sporting built this complex, complete with seven pitches and a hotel for 50 of the 130 youngsters who train here.

It costs £4m-a-year to run but Diogo Matos, the academy's director, estimates that it has already made the club £150m in terms of money saved on signing new players and the sale of star pupils like Nani and Ronaldo.

'We have something special going on here,' says Matos, whose current crop of Under 19s are emerging as one of the best in Europe in the much-lauded NextGen Series.
In the gym, Nani's personal best of 63 runs, covering 2,520metres, in the dreaded 'bleep test' is listed at seventh on the all-time leaders' board.

Although it was decided to keep him at Massama because of his domestic situation, he trained regularly with Sporting before joining the club at the age of 16.  Nani earned £900-a-month here as an academy player but that rose to £10,000 when he signed as a professional.  The money helped to move his aunt Antonia out of Santa Filomena, and he continues to support his family financially now that he earns considerably more at United. It is a burden Nani gladly takes on but one, he admits, that has often interfered with his career in the Premier League.
 
'I thank God for my current situation and I'm a pillar to my family,' he says. 'Every time there is a problem they come to me and I never say no. I know what I've been through when I was younger. I just can't see someone from the family having difficulties.

'But personal problems make me lose my focus. Sometimes I'm mentally tired of it all. It might even be before a big match or a derby, but I will pick up the phone and call whoever it takes to solve the problem right away.

'I earn a lot of money but it didn't fall from the sky. I must run. When I don't play well, people will chase me. I'm the bad guy.'

 Life in England has not been easy for Nani. It took a while to win over the fans and emerge from Ronaldo's shadow at United. Indeed, there have been times when Queiroz's initial concerns seemed justified.

Even after leading the Premier League in assists last season, he found himself on the bench for the Champions League Final against Barcelona, and the arrival of England winger Ashley Young in the summer prompted speculation that the 24-year-old could be on his way out of Old Trafford.

In fact, Nani has arguably been United's best player this season. He is happier off the pitch as well in the Cheshire home he shares with partner Daniela and their two dogs (a Labrador and a Chow Chow).
It's in contrast to his traumatic introduction to Manchester, even though Ronaldo was already there to help his friend adapt to the new surroundings.

'The toughest part was to live alone, not speaking the language,' says Nani. 'There was a phase when I was living at Cristiano's house and it was very good. There were always cheerful people and we had everything – swimming pool, jacuzzi, tennis, ping-pong. I never missed my family.
'But later I had to leave Cristiano's to make my own life. It was hard because it was a big house and by night it seemed like a witch's house.

'I was even afraid of being home alone. Sometimes I didn't even leave the room. I went to bed early without eating properly because I didn't want to have dinner alone.'
Even now, Nani admits, he will not watch horror movies because it gives him sleepless nights. He prefers to follow the TV soap operas with Daniela and play the piano.

'It relaxes me a lot,' he says. 'And it's good to practise your concentration.' 
October 2011. Porto's Estadio Do Dragao. Nani scores Portugal's first two goals in a 5-3 win over Iceland, upstaging his teammate Ronaldo. The next day's front pages of Correio da Manha and A Bola carry photos of him celebrating.

Defeat in Denmark four days later leaves Paulo Bento's team needing to qualify for Euro 2012 through a playoff, but it is clear that his No 17 – a player Bento coached at both junior and senior level at Sporting – has become a star in his own right.
On Saturday Nani returns to Liverpool with unhappy memories. It was at Anfield in March that he was carried off in tears after a tackle from Jamie Carragher cut the United player's left shin to the bone.

Nani later claimed that it was the fear of missing the rest of the season, of not being able to play the game he loves, that made him cry rather than the injury itself.
'I know how hard it was for me to get here,' he says. 'I will keep fighting to go as high as I can. I will give my best to show that there is someone who fights in the name of the family.'

The boy from Santa Filomena has come a long way. 


 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 14, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
So Rooney gets 3 games for his red card.

Harsh... but it was petulant and full-breed dotish.

I hear about what went down but didn't see the tackle, then I see you say it harsh so I went and look it up. He shoulda get 5 games. The player did absolutely noting to Rooney. Rooney was just outright violent.

If was Ballotelli that had done that.....my word.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 15, 2011, 07:48:16 AM
That boy was born to score goals

Fergie's team selection will come under allot of scrutiny but the last 3 times we have went there we left way too much space and got battered ... In a sense it did work by limiting Liverpool to a few half chances but we hardly created anything so it was designed for counter attack and absorb which it did well enough... and then Adam's dive and Giggsy poor decision and we had to go for it by playing 5 in attack lol.. from then on it was anyone can win it as we were really open and after the Chicho goal it was madness how much space was available and De Gea was quality today

I taking the point considering we lost the last 3 there.. its a big point, City and Chelsea will not get it easy there either

Onto City
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on October 15, 2011, 08:24:13 AM
The match was a snoozer!!

wow - poor quality all around. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 15, 2011, 10:04:22 AM
I hear about what went down but didn't see the tackle, then I see you say it harsh so I went and look it up. He shoulda get 5 games. The player did absolutely noting to Rooney. Rooney was just outright violent.

If was Ballotelli that had done that.....my word.

Your totee does get hard fuh Balotelli or what?  Everything is "if dat was Balotelli".  From the replays I saw it looked like he deliberately kick the fella but didn't seem that 'violent'.  I saw another replay last night that change mih mind... he deserve every bit of that 3-match ban. There, yuh satisfied?

And nobody in the English press gave him a pass, he's been rightly villified, moreso than was Balotelli.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 15, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
Rooney's appears to lack the ability to use the adversity he may experience on the field as fuel to raise his game to the next level.  Great players make their opponents consistently pay when they try to rough them up by using it as extra motivation to raise their level of performance. Rooney on the other hand appears to allow himself to get caught up which then lets the opponent win. This in my opinion makes him an unreliable teammate and a liability. I think Ferguson recognises this which is why he has no problems dropping him during he season. Capello and England unfortunately are overly reliant on him and they keep picking him despite his acts of selfishness during games. Rooney's lashing out on the field I feel is not some calculated act but more reactionary.
The way Messi handles what he gets on the field game in and game out is the way the greats in any sport have handled it. You make them pay and while contributing to your team winning. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 15, 2011, 02:05:04 PM
Girly, you really have to let go your anti-Rooney bullshit now..

he wasnt dropped because Fergie feared he may break someones leg.. he didnt start because Fergie said his head wasnt right after the verdict from UEFA...

All your negativity and you cant even praise the man's effort today. He came on and play CM and did it to perfection and also won a key defensive header in the last minute which would have been a sure goal for Suarez

Would you love Rooney if he didnt have that fire? would Rooney even be Rooney if he didnt have it? pick and choose your battles , the pro's heavily outweigh the cons of Wazza

Yes he does some stupid mistakes but he is Human afterall



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on October 15, 2011, 02:11:33 PM
Just curious about what you Utd fans thought about Phil Jones' position today. I know he played in midfield for Blackburn before, but I couldn't really figure out what he was supposed to be doing today. Was he man-marking Adam? An experiment gone wrong?

And yeah, De Gea was fantastic. Fed up of opposition goalkeepers having their best performance at the Kop end  >:(  :)  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 15, 2011, 02:28:44 PM
.. he didnt start because Fergie said his head wasnt right after the verdict from UEFA...

As Macca properly pointed out... his head wasn't right to start, but it was right for him to come off the bench? Nonsense.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 15, 2011, 03:14:30 PM
Just curious about what you Utd fans thought about Phil Jones' position today. I know he played in midfield for Blackburn before, but I couldn't really figure out what he was supposed to be doing today. Was he man-marking Adam? An experiment gone wrong?

And yeah, De Gea was fantastic. Fed up of opposition goalkeepers having their best performance at the Kop end  >:(  :)  :beermug:

It could definitely work..  tough to say after a tough game away to Liverpool and his first time in mid for United

I've been wanting to see him there for a while now ... and yes he was man marking Adam all game.. clear as day that was instruction

I'm pretty sure he could be a beast in mid , his drive is outstanding and he has good technical ability.. he will be fine in whatever position he plays whenever wherever... that 16 million price tag looks cheap now.. 19 years old and going to be a Legend
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 15, 2011, 04:50:43 PM
Girly, you really have to let go your anti-Rooney bullshit now..

he wasnt dropped because Fergie feared he may break someones leg.. he didnt start because Fergie said his head wasnt right after the verdict from UEFA...

All your negativity and you cant even praise the man's effort today. He came on and play CM and did it to perfection and also won a key defensive header in the last minute which would have been a sure goal for Suarez

Would you love Rooney if he didnt have that fire? would Rooney even be Rooney if he didnt have it? pick and choose your battles , the pro's heavily outweigh the cons of Wazza

Yes he does some stupid mistakes but he is Human afterall





When Rooney do shyte he is Human? I see where alyuh does be coming from yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 15, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
Girly, you really have to let go your anti-Rooney bullshit now..

he wasnt dropped because Fergie feared he may break someones leg.. he didnt start because Fergie said his head wasnt right after the verdict from UEFA...

All your negativity and you cant even praise the man's effort today. He came on and play CM and did it to perfection and also won a key defensive header in the last minute which would have been a sure goal for Suarez

Would you love Rooney if he didnt have that fire? would Rooney even be Rooney if he didnt have it? pick and choose your battles , the pro's heavily outweigh the cons of Wazza

Yes he does some stupid mistakes but he is Human afterall





Little boy who still wears Rooney pj's and jockey shorts; is people like you who keep making excuses for Rooney that makes him feel like he can continue making choices on the field that hurts his teams. He got benched because Fergie felt that he could not be trusted to handle himself in such an environment. Rooney is easily triggered. Either he gets it or he doesn't and right now he hasn't and may never get it. He can have fire all he want but if it is not channelled toward helping the team he might as well not have it. He has become a liability because you never know when he will catch a vaps on the field. Praise his efforts? He should be doing that after all the damn money he making and felt like he deserve to make. I support the side but that doesn't mean I have to support Rooney's bullshit, or be told by a little snatty nose, disrespectful little knob like yourself that  I should be supporting him. Take that talk somewhere else!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 15, 2011, 05:45:37 PM
lol ok lets sell him in the January transfer window and make you and the 2.5% bitter twats happy

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 15, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
Man United message board is a hell of a thing.   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 15, 2011, 06:24:01 PM
... and then Adam's dive and Giggsy poor decision and we had to go for it by playing 5 in attack lol..

So much (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/15/liverpool-manchester-united-premier-league) for "Adam's dive"...

Quote
Ferdinand owned up to contact, and could consider himself lucky to stay on the pitch, though not every foul needs to be a booking. "There was contact, but not enough to make a 13st bloke fall on the floor," he said

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 15, 2011, 07:24:24 PM
... and then Adam's dive and Giggsy poor decision and we had to go for it by playing 5 in attack lol..

So much (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/15/liverpool-manchester-united-premier-league) for "Adam's dive"...

Quote
Ferdinand owned up to contact, and could consider himself lucky to stay on the pitch, though not every foul needs to be a booking. "There was contact, but not enough to make a 13st bloke fall on the floor," he said



Ferdinand don't know what he talking about.

By de way how heavy is 13st? Big stone, boulder, rocks?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on October 15, 2011, 09:17:06 PM
Ferdinand don't know what he talking about.

By de way how heavy is 13st? Big stone, boulder, rocks?
1 stone = 14 pounds, so 182 lbs. Sounds fair.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on October 20, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
Man City players talking smack before the big game. They better have the game to back it up. ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on October 21, 2011, 05:41:22 AM
I wanted to comment on the manufactured hype about De Gea being a bad keeper. De Gea let in two shots that could arguably have been saved. He didn’t throw the ball into his net or drop a cross at a man foot or parry a ball into the danger area. They didn’t affect the result of the games. He also had some shaky moments on crosses. The media jump on this and instantly start making comparisons to Taibi despite the fact that there was comparison.

Everybody start talking about Ferguson being ruthless despite the fact that had given Carroll, Howard and barhgez plenty tiem to establish themslevs and never cut them abrubtly. Patrick Barclay even went so far to say that Ferguson WILL be buying a keeper in January. He rotate him in a couple games and people want to manufacture a keeper debate as if it is a prelude to a dropping.

And every game you hear people talking about “testing De Gea, shooting plenty”. Now all keepers make mistakes it is just a question of frequency and just about every other keeper this season, with the exception of Cech, has fumbled a ball or let in a goal or two where you could say that coulda get to that.

Now I was never a fan of the choice. I was sure he would be good but you expect young keepers to make mistakes. My main gripe was the money 19M is plenty money when Stekelenburg goes to Roma for 7M, would have had a better chance of hitting the ground running , speaks English and is accustomed to keeping behind a back four where you don’t see a lot of the ball and then have to be alert.

But despite that De Gea has beaten all my expectations. Fewer mistakes than expected and excellent distribution. Van Der Sar had great feet and De Gea is probably even better. Clearly that is what Ferguson and his team wanted. They probably also suss out that the youth has character because he take all the unwarranted flak and just brush it off and keep his performances up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 23, 2011, 07:55:58 AM
Uh-oh, Man U against the ropes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 23, 2011, 07:59:31 AM
Uh-oh, Man U against the ropes.

Some good licks today.  Better team won, sorry winning at this point  :devil: :devil:, plenty season still to go....Glory Glory :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 08:06:25 AM
Man on the Man United message board looking for an opinion to come back to post here.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2011, 08:11:30 AM
I agree. De Gea has received an unwarranted bad rap. Part of the measure of the man might be his seemingly unassuming nature. He has all the prospects of getting better, but he hasn't been a glaring mistake of an acquisition.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on October 23, 2011, 08:23:17 AM
Lawd now we have to put a nervous breakdown watch on Small Mag....as if monitoring Camps wasn't bad enough.... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: samo on October 23, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
6 at home.... :o

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tongue on October 23, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
those noisy blasted neighbours.....steuuuuuuuuuuuuupes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 23, 2011, 08:25:59 AM
(http://www.allparty.co.uk/images/P/Q30535.jpg)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on October 23, 2011, 08:27:47 AM
Talk the talk & can -------------------!
Dam! At home as well  :flamethrower:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 23, 2011, 08:29:00 AM
Got we deserved! The side lacked drive, intensity, passion and left DeGea out to dry in the second half. Sooner or later a side was going to make us pay if we didn't tighten up things and City did. Season not over but Fergie needs to decide what to do about midfield and the center backs. Evans needs to be consigned to Carling cup or the bench. We are still lacking variety in midfield.
Well done City, thanks for the wake up call!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FireBrand on October 23, 2011, 08:37:02 AM
Now on any given day any team in de League could get licks...but 6...at home too.  :o

Aye somebody call an make sure Small Mag ok.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
jus d highlights

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 08:38:32 AM
Oh dear!  :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 23, 2011, 08:41:02 AM
First of all, F@*k the haters!! seeing that most of them from teams we already beat...second of all when was the last time Fletcher start or even play a game? and that F@*#ing Evans is ah dunce, why is he still playing for Man.United? Fergie got it wrong today. Took off Nani who is the best player we have so far this season during ah time that we needed a player to create something from nothing. I guess Fletcher would have done that. Don't give ah rat's arse about his goal. Anderson running on one speed all game. Ok I done vent...elan go suck ah Di*k!!!


PS. We got beat because we played shit. As for Arsenal and Chelsea, well they played good and still, we beat them.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 08:43:55 AM
First of all, F@*k the haters!! seeing that most of them from teams we already beat...second of all when was the last time Fletcher start or even play a game? and that F@*#ing Evans is ah dunce, why is he still playing for Man.United? Fergie got it wrong today. Took off Nani who is the best player we have so far this season during ah time that we needed a player to create something from nothing. I guess Fletcher would have done that. Don't give ah rat's arse about his goal. Anderson running on one speed all game. Ok I done vent...elan go suck ah Di*k!!!

 :violin: :violin: :yapping: :yapping: :yapping:

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses,  we this and that F@#KING licks to de highest order.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2011, 08:44:34 AM
wappen triniairman big crash today or wha  ;D ;D ;D ;D :D ;)  ooohh yeah 6-1dat  :P small ting man  :devil: :devil: :devil: :beermug: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: samo on October 23, 2011, 08:44:46 AM
You team lorse take it like a man... Yuh get six at home and taking a pile of shit and saying ferguson got it wrong and players should not be playing for manure.. 6 at home
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 23, 2011, 08:53:36 AM
Like I said F@*k the haters, seeing that most of you all from teams that we already beat or humiliated. We just got our dose today from a team that none of you support.... F@*$ING WAGGONIST!!! now that I cleared that up, on to the next game, sorry for that team in advance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2011, 08:56:27 AM
Like I said F@*k the haters, seeing that most of you all from teams that we already beat or humiliated. We just got our dose today from a team that none of you support.... F@*$ING WAGGONIST!!! now that I cleared that up, on to the next game, sorry for that team in advance.
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2011, 10:00:08 AM
 :banginghead:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 23, 2011, 10:19:52 AM
The criticism about De Gea was well-deserved... I dunno what this "manufactured hype" talk is all about.  The youth was a calamity waiting to happen. I doubt anybody said he was outright bad or a "mistake".  Now he settle down and playing better... doesn't mean he didn't have nervous moments at the start of the season or that critics were saying that is how he'll continue to be.

As for the game, I on the road and ent see it yet... on the DVR for later.  I would say this though, 10 men or no 10 men 6-1 is a shocking scoreline and arguably this is FAR worse than the 8-1 cut-ass Arsenal collect.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on October 23, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
ahahahaha

Lefty killing me here!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 23, 2011, 11:46:10 AM
Given myself time to exit shock stage(even though I still am in it probably)

1st Half was fairly balanced, City going ahead was a sucker punch but it felt like we would have gotten back in it as we were dominating

60 seconds into second half Jonny boy caught napping and that was the worst time for that

I thought goals 2 and 3 were very poor defending on our part,  yes we went forward as our thinking is always to get back into the game but I think we were a bit too exuberant in our quest to get back into the game and If you give guys like David Silva time to use the ball then you will get exposed.  Anderson was at fault for the 2nd when he lazily lost Silva and then allowed him to play the reverse ball for Milner

Credit to United for giving it a go at 3-0 with 10 men and making it 3-1 but when we conceded the 4th after Rio's terrible backpass and our atrocious defending of the resulting corner we should have had enough pride to be disciplined at shut off the game and go into damage limitation.. at that point the 1st goal was against the run of play and the 2nd and 3rd were down to individual mistakes and also us trying to get back into the game with 10 men and the 4th was understandable as we had scored and was hoping to nick another...

but to then bomb forward and have no tactical discipline and allow 2 goals after 4-1 was very very disappointing, very out of character of United , even Fergie said he was quite upset with Rio and Evra for not getting everyone to just see out the game at 4-1

Anyway, it happened, 6 is 6, well done City... 7 shots on target and 6 goals scored, of course largely aided by poor defending and 10 men but it is what it is

Its Sad that Fergie has to get a 6-1 bashing to realise that maybe Anderson who I do not rate at all, really isnt good enough and Carrick Gibbo etc arent the players to take us into the era where technical ability and energy is key

This Summer was meant to strengthen the center of midfield with Scholes gone and Giggsy a year older... Fergie as good as he is , is a very stubborn man and probably regretting his pride

Modric is the perfect fit, would have been an ideal partner for Fletcher and with Cleverley those 3 would have been the main men with Giggs coming in now and then. I would have sold Anderson, Gibbo and possibly Carrick and added Modric and a DM

we are well covered with quality in every position except center mid

Everyone saw it yet Fergie didnt.. now we are going to live with the embarrassment of this result down to his stubbornness,  hopefully it opened his eyes, so it could be a blessing

This I think may be a season to integrate the youths in the team, I fear City are too strong but we will give them a run for their money and I firmly believe we can win the league.  I think CL is near to impossible. I'll take anything this year really as it will be important for the young players and newcomers to win a trophy or 2 and get into the habit like the older heads have.

Time to push on, Vidic needs to get back 100% fit and also Cleverley is needed more than ever.. without him our performances have become poor and so have our results. He is really the heartbeat when he is there and guys like Rooney ,Nani  and Young really blossom when he is there behind them setting the tempo and driving forward

We will bounce back , certainly I will and my team
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 23, 2011, 12:01:22 PM
Young's then Evra's failure to track Milner is what led to the 2nd goal. Anderson was playing Silva but the failure of Young and Evra to track Milner on the pass left Milner wide open to receive the pass.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 23, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
Young's then Evra's failure to track Milner is what led to the 2nd goal. Anderson was playing Silva but the failure of Young and Evra to track Milner on the pass left Milner wide open to receive the pass.

Noone was at fault. United were already down to 10 men at that stage, City had an extra man available on the overlap and made them pay.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
Young's then Evra's failure to track Milner is what led to the 2nd goal. Anderson was playing Silva but the failure of Young and Evra to track Milner on the pass left Milner wide open to receive the pass.

Noone was at fault. United were already down to 10 men at that stage, City had an extra man available on the overlap and made them pay.

Track the runner leave the man with the ball, let the man on the ball make a decision by taking away that threat of the run.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 23, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
If it was so easy Elan....  goals 2 and 3 were numerical advantage and a mix of poor decisions

Human beings afterall...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
If it was so easy Elan....  goals 2 and 3 were numerical advantage and a mix of poor decisions

Human beings afterall...

I'm not saying it's easy, but that's what "suppose" to happen in such a situation, Anderson did not see the runner until late. Good execution by Man City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 23, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
First of all, F@*k the haters!! seeing that most of them from teams we already beat...second of all when was the last time Fletcher start or even play a game?

Last season ago I think it was, one of allyuh Man U zombies bawl Fletcher is one of the best mids in the world.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 23, 2011, 03:17:06 PM
First of all, F@*k the haters!! seeing that most of them from teams we already beat...second of all when was the last time Fletcher start or even play a game?

Last season ago I think it was, one of allyuh Man U zombies bawl Fletcher is one of the best mids in the world.  ;D

Golasso from Fletcher though
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 23, 2011, 05:56:15 PM
Excuse my lateness, Flow had my internet down since yesterday....

But just stopping by to say that I thoroughly enjoyed that cutass Man U colleck this morning.

Thank you and good night everyone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on October 23, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
Things happen really quickly in football, and little things make a big difference.  United was the better side at 11 v. 11 but Balotelli scored a good goal against the run of play and Evans shat the bed with his red card offense, and that was the game really.

What was shocking was how Utd lost their discipline and seemingly gave up defensively.  United has had some indifferent performances in the last 3 games or so and I think their confidence and morale is taking a little beating.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on October 23, 2011, 06:52:21 PM
Sir Alex eh taking dat at all! Come January watch  Fergie splash money  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on October 24, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
and how are the ManU fans feeling today?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 24, 2011, 10:39:26 AM
and how are the ManU fans feeling today?

if I were to guess, I'd say like dey fall arse first on ah deluxe dildo ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 24, 2011, 10:56:35 AM
and how are the ManU fans feeling today?

if I were to guess, I'd say like dey fall arse first on ah deluxe dildo ;)
That sounds panfull lol, but to answer the question, I'm fine, I know we will destroy our next opponent and this is just a wake up call to both Fergie and the players. It sucks we lost that big at home from our rivals, but life goes on Man.United will rebound from this starting with the next game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on October 24, 2011, 02:35:06 PM
We got knocked off the perch!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 25, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
As much as he sometimes frustrates me, love me some Berba! I hope he gets his time tuh shine this season!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 29, 2011, 08:00:08 AM
hard fought win at a very difficult place to go

Hernandez with the winner

2 home games(Otulel and Sunderland) before the international break ... lets finish strong

oh btw : C-H-3-L-5-E-A
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 02, 2011, 03:02:33 PM
Lord we playing sloppy, very frustrating to watch! Looks like players not bearing down when they have the ball and making passes. Rooney is not the answer in midfield; he makes some nice passes but he is very predictable in his turns (always to his right and on his right foot) and his moves to evade a defender.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 03, 2011, 12:41:38 PM
In a tribute to how far Alex Ferguson has come as a a manager, I found this story on the soccernet website:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/977440/rewind-to-1990:-fergie%27s-%27darkest-period%27?cc=5901

Fergie's 'darkest period'
November 3, 2011

By Jon Carter
(Archive)

At the start of 1990, Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson (long before he was made a Knight of the Realm) was in trouble and his side were struggling at the wrong end of the Division One table. A run of eight games without a win saw the once-great Red Devils staring relegation in the face. The accepted story is that Ferguson would have been sacked if they had been knocked out of the FA Cup by Nottingham Forest on January 7. The game proved to be a reprieve from those calling for his head, but - possibly until the recent 6-1 hammering by rivals Man City - the time remains by his own admission his 'darkest period' as a manager.

The majority of Sir Alex Ferguson's first years at Manchester United were spent in a position he has since taken great pleasure in becoming unfamiliar with. Ferguson's first job at Old Trafford was to overturn the run that previous incumbent Ron Atkinson had placed them in and he succeeded in lifting the Red Devils from the relegation zone into 11th place at the end of 1986-87.

Revamping every aspect of life at the club, from training regimes to the scouting network and youth set-up, while paying particular attention to the boozing antics of a select few, Ferguson brought discipline back to the changing room. The signings of Steve Bruce, Brian McClair and Viv Anderson, among others, helped lift them to a worthy second place in the First Division, yet nine points behind champions Liverpool.

Unable to continue that kind of challenge, though, an inconsistent side slipped to 11th in their next season. At times, Ferguson's men looked like they could be title contenders; at others they would not have been out of place in Division Two. Clearly, their final position in the table was far less than expected and, with the side described as ''hard working, methodical and dull'', Fergie's cautious style was hardly winning over the fans either.

Ahead of the 1989-90 season, Ferguson's attempts to put the club's boozing history to bed came to a head and he sold Stretford End favourites Norman Whiteside and Paul McGrath. Gordon Strachan had previously been offloaded to Leeds for £200,000 and the loss of such star names, while ultimately good for the club in the long-term, were not viewed as a positive step in the short-term, despite the signings of Neil Webb, Mike Phelan and Paul Ince. Since he arrived three years previously, Ferguson had bought 16 players (at a cost of around £13 million) and sold 18 with only Bryan Robson and Mike Duxbury remaining from the team he inherited.

The overhaul initially looked as if it would bear fruit with a 4-1 drubbing of Arsenal on the opening day of the new season, but four defeats in their next six games (including a 5-1 thrashing by Man City at Maine Road) saw the detractors begin to gain support. Ferguson bemoaned the club's heavy injury problems - especially with Webb snapping his Achilles tendon a few games into his United career while on England duty - but an infamous banner declaring "Three years of excuses and it's still crap... ta-ra Fergie" was soon displayed at Old Trafford, and the calls for the manager's sacking grew louder.

Yet, back against the wall, Fergie undertook what would be the first of many rearguard actions. In October and November, United turned around their early-season form and won four of seven going into December. It mattered little to the baying press pack as their one defeat, to Charlton, in the midst of the run saw The Daily Express's Steve Curry write an article entitled 'Fergie the Flop!' which referenced the fact that he had ''the worst record of any United manager of modern times''. Curry threatened that when the paying public become ''disenchanted, as they are doing now, then the wind of change blows in over Stretford".

Indeed, December brought with it a cold wind. Ferguson had claimed that it was ''a hell of burden running a club that hasn't won the title for 23 years and thinks it should do every season.'' But soon he would have more of a weight on his shoulders and he struggled to make his expensively assembled machine run smoothly.

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The lead-up to Christmas saw four defeats in five - to Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Spurs and Aston Villa - with only a 0-0 draw which they dominated at Anfield a positive sign. The reaction was more anger from the fans typified by Richard Kurt who remembered in his book 'United We Stood' the reaction to the 3-0 hammering by Spurs: ''Humiliated three-nil, we jeered them off the pitch and vented our rage at the manager and chairman [Martin Edwards]."

More pressure from the media followed, which ultimately saw The Daily Express's John Bean write under a headline of 'Fergie's last stand' on December 28 that a bad result in ten days' time against Nottingham Forest in the Third Round of the FA Cup would make his position ''untenable''.

''League games at Wimbledon on Saturday and against QPR at Old Trafford on New Year's Day are important to Ferguson's immediate future,'' wrote Bean. ''But United's Cup result against Nottingham Forest is absolutely crucial... and he knows it.''

Ferguson, for his part, admitted as much: ''Everyone seems to have set the Cup tie as my trial. I can cope with that because I know that I am doing the job the right way and the motivation of the players is no problem. We simply have to get on with it and remember that the game will be as hard for Forest as it will be for us.'' After a 2-2 draw with Wimbledon and a 0-0 draw with QPR that saw United's team booed off by their own fans, they faced their FA Cup test with the threat of the axe looming. With United having won just nine of 35 games since their 2-1 home defeat by Norwich in February, the form book favoured Forest who were in mid-table in the league and in the process of winning the League Cup for the second season running.

On hostile turf at the City ground, and with a controversial Sixth Round exit at the hands of Brian Clough's men the previous year still fresh in memory, the pressure was on Fergie as Kurt remembers: "The sense of the time was that a knock-out by Forest would release the Edwards butcher's chopper."

The game itself was not an especially memorable one, with the tension palpable. New defensive signing Gary Pallister helped to keep the Forest attack at bay and, according to The Guardian's David Lacey, ensured that the home side ''did not get a serious sight of goal until the end of the match when they pushed forward in desperate numbers". With Des Walker playing a similarly solid role for Forest at the back, Lacey described the first-half as ''tightly contested and dour to the naked eye... [it] made dreary watching on television''.

However, the break that United (and Ferguson) needed came soon into the second half as Lee Martin kept the ball in play and fed Mark Hughes, who struck a devilish pass with the outside of his right boot across the box to the waiting Mark Robins. Robins, one of the original batch of 'Fergie's Fledglings' - alongside the likes of Martin and Russell Beardsmore - had only just turned 20 and was making only his third first-team appearance, but nodded home calmly to put United ahead. The Red Devils would hold on to the 1-0 scoreline, despite a late disallowed goal from Forest's Nigel Jemson jangling the nerves, and claimed a vital win.

Fergie's focus on youth had paid off in what many considered to be the defining match of his United career. ''[United] renewed faith with their supporters, thousands of whom cheered the players off at the end in an atmosphere of delirium tinged with slight disbelief,'' wrote Lacey. ''For the moment, the harbingers of doom will give their manager a break.''

What happened next? United's next game resulted in a 2-1 defeat to Derby County at Old Trafford and it would be a further two until they claimed a win - away at Millwall. Ferguson later described December 1989 as "the darkest period [he had] ever suffered in the game" but the new year would be the start of a mini-revival as he led his team to six wins out of their next ten games to finish the season in 13th place, five points ahead of relegated Sheffield Wednesday. Any dwindling thoughts from the board that Ferguson was not the right man for the job quickly vanished as he picked up his first trophy for the club by defeating Crystal Palace in a replayed FA Cup final, having played every round in the competition away from home.

The Cup win proved to be the catalyst for much more and, while then-chairman Edwards later insisted that he would still have given Ferguson more time if they had lost to Forest, the importance of that campaign cannot be understated. A year later, Fergie gave himself yet more breathing space by winning the European Cup-Winners' Cup in 1991, but the Premier League and his path to greatness was on the horizon; the rest is history.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 26, 2011, 10:59:35 AM
I is a hater eh, but allyuh get tief on that penalty.
Say what, I love it. Still a hater  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 26, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
I is a hater eh, but allyuh get tief on that penalty.
Say what, I love it. Still a hater  :devil:

It looked like a good tackle, but recently there was a discussion with refs about what constitute a foul, and one of the things that came out was, not because you win the ball it means it's not a foul and not because you did not win the ball mean it's a foul. Another gray area being generated in the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on November 26, 2011, 11:04:34 AM
I is a hater eh, but allyuh get tief on that penalty.
Say what, I love it. Still a hater  :devil:

De scales of justice barely move...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on November 26, 2011, 11:09:56 AM
I is a hater eh, but allyuh get tief on that penalty.
Say what, I love it. Still a hater  :devil:

De scales of justice barely move...

De point total as well  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 26, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
ESPN's coverage is the worse! Game going on on dey pannin the crowd or showing a player who aint have nothing tuh do with the play! Not tuh mention that dam Ian Darke and he endless bleetin and screechin! I does have tuh mute the TV just tuh watch the game! And dey forever flashin scores like the only people watchin are people who only have ESPN and not FOXSoccer.  I wish dey would just go away with dey half arse coverages and broadcasts!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on November 26, 2011, 01:32:05 PM
We waz robbed

 :bs: :bs: :bs:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 26, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
i just come to say f**k the ref. that is all ...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 26, 2011, 05:26:09 PM
Newcastle's keeper is not and never was a shitehound. While Newcastle defended very well; we did not take the many chances we created to score the goal (s) that would have given us the win. Great point blank saves by each keeper!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on November 26, 2011, 08:30:58 PM
ESPN's coverage is the worse! Game going on on dey pannin the crowd or showing a player who aint have nothing tuh do with the play! Not tuh mention that dam Ian Darke and he endless bleetin and screechin! I does have tuh mute the TV just tuh watch the game! And dey forever flashin scores like the only people watchin are people who only have ESPN and not FOXSoccer.  I wish dey would just go away with dey half arse coverages and broadcasts!

Co-sign! I hate ESPN coverage. I deliberately watched the Chelsea game on FSC first, cause ah knew they woulda be talking ish about the other games.

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on November 27, 2011, 07:43:26 AM
What the eff is up with all these draws....?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on November 27, 2011, 08:39:10 AM
I used to like Ian Darke..but like the man gone over to the dark side yes  :D
I wish he just change citizenship and get ah US passport
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 27, 2011, 03:53:29 PM
I used to like Ian Darke..but like the man gone over to the dark side yes  :D
I wish he just change citizenship and get ah US passport

  After his nauseating work at the Women's world Cup, I eh too convinced he doh already have one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on November 28, 2011, 09:12:35 PM
I used to like Ian Darke..but like the man gone over to the dark side yes  :D
I wish he just change citizenship and get ah US passport

  After his nauseating work at the Women's world Cup, I eh too convinced he doh already have one.

Ha!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 05, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
3rd Round FA Cup....City vs United at Etihad stadium...pressure!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on December 07, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
As much as I want Man Utd to go out of the Champions League......the fact that they have to play in UEFA Cup is even sweeter.  :rotfl: :rotfl:

edit - Europa League, my bad  :rotfl: :rotfl:

(http://www.championsleaguetalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/europa-league.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 07, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on December 07, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
Ah doh normally like to laugh at other ppl troubles...but as ah Arsenal fan listening to all the rant over the yrs from these ManUre fans...all ah have to say is  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :P  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :P

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 07, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
pull all yuh arse... we off loading wayne "plugs" rooney soon...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 07, 2011, 03:49:30 PM
I would be laughing at we too!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on December 07, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
I would be laughing at we too!

So much for recording this year games :cursing: :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 07, 2011, 03:54:38 PM
FULL TIME Basle 2 Man United 1 and Sir Alex Ferguson's men are out of the Champions League. Or, as MUTV are no doubt reporting "Manchester United qualify for the Europa League! Congratulations!"  (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/champions-league/8941129/FC-Basle-v-Manchester-United-live.html)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 07, 2011, 03:59:05 PM
Merciful end to a poor CL campaign. Uninspired, lackadaisical performances.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 07, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
From FB: A tip for any Manchester United fans wanting to make a nice pasta sauce, most herbs are nice but you cant beat basil.   
 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 07, 2011, 04:03:50 PM
Basel play they heart out today, some of them fellas had the game of dey life..

Shaqiri play like a man possessed, Frei in midfield and old man Streller up top, everybody fight hard for the cause. All the talk about Man United play shit, i giving more credit to Basel for that performance.

Basel basically do ah Guyana on Man Utd..

But alas, i digress........



MAN EUROPA!!!!   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 07, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
Merciful end to a poor CL campaign. Uninspired, lackadaisical performances.

Yep!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on December 07, 2011, 04:12:38 PM
like SAF and small mag blight allya side...remember this one?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15853955.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on December 07, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
rel men on d board now hadda cancel dey thursday sweat
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 07, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
I would be laughing at we too!

So much for recording this year games :cursing: :frustrated:

why so serious..... let's put a smile on that face
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: supporter on December 07, 2011, 04:22:11 PM

Basel basically do ah Guyana on Man Utd..


Youre gona have to make a sincere apology for that horrendous analogy!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 07, 2011, 04:23:40 PM
From FB: A tip for any Manchester United fans wanting to make a nice pasta sauce, most herbs are nice but you cant beat basil.  
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

Basel play they heart out today, some of them fellas had the game of dey life..

Shaqiri play like a man possessed, Frei in midfield and old man Streller up top, everybody fight hard for the cause. All the talk about Man United play shit, i giving more credit to Basel for that performance.

Basel basically do ah Guyana on Man Utd..

But alas, i digress........



MAN EUROPA!!!!   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ah swear allyuh go kill me today  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on December 07, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
Basel play they heart out today, some of them fellas had the game of dey life..

Unless yuh does watch dem on a regular...and maybe you do....but how yuh could make that statement?

Basle are top of their league.  And in the first leg AT MAN U...were leading 3-2 until a late equailizer

Seems to me that over the 2 legs...they were the better team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on December 08, 2011, 08:01:06 AM
Having ah lil perspective is ah hell of ah ting yes...while ah deeply disappointed, having just recently lived the TnT exit from WC qualifying, dis is small ting.

My next biggest disappoint in dis football ting go be if Brazil lose de WC...Manu out and playing in Europa next year, oh well....


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 08, 2011, 05:12:06 PM
More bad news for we as Vidic suffers a ruptured cruciate ligament....

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994122/man-utd-captain-nemanja-vidic-has-ruptured-his-cruciate---agent?cc=5901

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 09, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
Vidic done for the rest of the season.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994223/man-united-confirm-nemanja-vidic-out-for-the-season?cc=5901

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 09, 2011, 01:09:12 PM
Vidic done for the rest of the season.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/994223/man-united-confirm-nemanja-vidic-out-for-the-season?cc=5901



He to nasty with he play. If he would chill out and play, he would be fine. That stupid tackle he make to hurt heself was not needed. He just wild.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 09, 2011, 01:41:20 PM
But where Small Mag and DHW and dem in truth dread??

Look how dem men does just absent themselves from dey thread as dey side get licks eh.

Ah mean at least ah man like Gunnerstunner does come back in his Arsenal thread to grieve after he take licks.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 09, 2011, 02:09:38 PM
seriously where is small mag.....what is the number for St. Ann's? that is the first place to check
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on December 09, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
hahahaha

Allyuh wicked.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
He to nasty with he play. If he would chill out and play, he would be fine. That stupid tackle he make to hurt heself was not needed. He just wild.

I ent see de tackle in question... but disagree that Vidic is ah nasty player.  I think he plays hard, but fair.  I doh even think he's as "nasty" as Terry.  Either way... harsh result for him, a real shame.  We dealing with the same thing with Lucas, so I feel for pardna.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2011, 03:30:09 PM
seriously where is small mag.....what is the number for St. Ann's? that is the first place to check

   I feel he tief 2-3 bottle from Trotters and burnin' all he wazza jockey shorts in a 55-gallon drum down d islands somewhere.  Singin' and cryin' "We'll do what we want"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 09, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
Oh lawd look pressah...ah almost feel sorry for de yute but you know wha dey say...if you want to run wid de big dogs you gotta learn to shit in de tall grass...

btw yuh sure he does call them jockey shorts and not underroos
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 09, 2011, 03:59:49 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2011, 04:02:59 PM
Oh lawd look pressah...ah almost feel sorry for de yute but you know wha dey say...if you want to run wid de big dogs you gotta learn to shit in de tall grass...

btw yuh sure he does call them jockey shorts and not underroos

   :rotfl: Yeah yuh right....But I only know to type it what I woulda call it and I eh tryin' to be like small mag....or Dwight.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 09, 2011, 04:07:19 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.




Small Mag, you cyah come on here and talk this nonsense you talkin' here.  the kinds of shit you does be tellin' people and the kinda venom you does be spittin', you really expect that people wouldn't gih yuh a lil' shaft when yuh side lorse?!?! Whut de arrrrrse I seein' here, boy?! Jed, you really, really, REALLY have lots of growin' up to do. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on December 09, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.




Ah man take it personal yes

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 09, 2011, 04:22:24 PM
 doh take it personal i.e. both de tork and de lorse
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 09, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
FF, I know I give my fair share of banter but to me a few things I read were a little uncalled for ... and I've never been one to respond immediately after poor performances for United , it wouldn't be a nice sight

I just saying there is a difference between banter and overdoing it

Anyway,dont want to get into that.. just responding to those who were asking for me.. I'm right here, looking forward to Tomorrow's game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2011, 05:56:03 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.





Smalls doh come on here and play no victim. I aint blame you for the lorse even though sometimes yuh dos post like yuh takin sweat in the side. I came at you the way I did because ah feel yuh need tuh humble yuh self and remember games still have tuh play. I even responded to your post when you made it at the time. Plus you rell disrespectful in how you broach people; you are one of the first tuh drop the f-bomb or some other curse word when nobody come at you like that. I doubt that is how you speak tuh people face tuh face,if so then you have gotten a lot of buss mouth and yuh have more waitin for yuh. So for you tuh identify Elan as someone who contributing tuh the negative demise of the forum then either you in deep denial and yuh need tuh pull up the many posts you have made and refresh yuh memory. Yuh want to talk embarrass then see if what yuh have written or how you have responded tuh people has not been  embarrassing tuh you.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on December 09, 2011, 06:53:42 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.




Ah man take it personal yes

(http://i39.tinypic.com/4t3804.gif)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You and these gifs!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on December 09, 2011, 10:34:50 PM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.





Smalls doh come on here and play no victim. I aint blame you for the lorse even though sometimes yuh dos post like yuh takin sweat in the side. I came at you the way I did because ah feel yuh need tuh humble yuh self and remember games still have tuh play. I even responded to your post when you made it at the time. Plus you rell disrespectful in how you broach people; you are one of the first tuh drop the f-bomb or some other curse word when nobody come at you like that. I doubt that is how you speak tuh people face tuh face,if so then you have gotten a lot of buss mouth and yuh have more waitin for yuh. So for you tuh identify Elan as someone who contributing tuh the negative demise of the forum then either you in deep denial and yuh need tuh pull up the many posts you have made and refresh yuh memory. Yuh want to talk embarrass then see if what yuh have written or how you have responded tuh people has not been  embarrassing tuh you.

Giggsy I may not like yuh side but I have real respect for you.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Some of the comments here were definitely overboard... in keeping with all the overboard comments Small Mag usually makes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 10, 2011, 12:59:38 AM
I've decided to sit back and take it in, didnt see the point in responding to some of the almost personal attacks to me.

I saw one post in particular that made my decision easy when Giggsy11 was practically saying I was responsible for United's failings in the group because I took the group for granted , which I shouldnt have because we all know football is strange but to target me was particularly embarrassing of the direction the forum is going with people like Elan etc

I dont play for United, It wasnt in my control

As for the calls to come and post when your team loses I will never be like that, I am too diehard and upset to post after painful occassions with the team that I support to the death. The people that come on here after defeat and are chatty as f**k arent real fans to me, absolute shithongs If you ask me

Anyway onwards and upwards hopefully... not every season is going to be filled with glory, but wasting my time responding to some of these clowns isnt worth it.




Boy f@#k you nah. You could tell me about the demise ah the board when you always cussing man out left right and center? Rock so with yuh lil cry f@#king baby attitude. Right through you want to be disrespectful and then yuh cyah take.

Go back to the Man United f@#king message board yuh lil twat. You and yuh lil message board football knowledge. You feel you could talk coaching football with me. Boy piss off eh.

Giggsy11 f@#k yuh up and yuh want to play you coming at me. You have to be ah f@#king clown. You have to be having ah laugh, trying to play yuh taking the humble f@#king road. Lil f@#king idiot.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 01:32:23 AM
He to nasty with he play. If he would chill out and play, he would be fine. That stupid tackle he make to hurt heself was not needed. He just wild.

I ent see de tackle in question... but disagree that Vidic is ah nasty player.  I think he plays hard, but fair.  I doh even think he's as "nasty" as Terry.  Either way... harsh result for him, a real shame.  We dealing with the same thing with Lucas, so I feel for pardna.


More jackassness from King Jackasss. vidic IS a nasty player and much nastier than JT could ever dream of being especially when one considers the fact that, vidic has way less time in the English league and way more red cards tan JT, ON TOP of the shit he does get away with.  You really need a purge because the shit swelling yuh brain. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on December 10, 2011, 01:38:01 AM
FF, I know I give my fair share of banter but to me a few things I read were a little uncalled for ... and I've never been one to respond immediately after poor performances for United , it wouldn't be a nice sight

I just saying there is a difference between banter and overdoing it

Anyway,dont want to get into that.. just responding to those who were asking for me.. I'm right here, looking forward to Tomorrow's game

The only difference is whether yuh on the receiving end or not. Yuh can't play mas and fraid powder.

When United beat Arsenal yuh had every 8-2 joke in the world. Elan ent do nothing different with the Europa league jokes.

Also if yuh unwise enough to guarantee qualification in writing on a message board, expect it to be quoted when your prediction does not come true.

You and Giggsy have a personal Rooney beef and she say yuh does bat for Rooney ad nauseum, which is true. It was personal but no more personal than you addressing to her as "girly" when allyuh battling.

And finally yuh young and it understandable but yuh have get off this biggest, best, most diehard fan kick that yuh on. You are not the arbiter of Manchester United fandom and yuh not in a position to say who is a shit hound or not. Yuh not the best fan or biggest fan, just another fan.

Somebody could easily look at you taking the group for granted as being a "chatty as f**k", "unreal fan". Or they could look at when yuh was cussing Cristiano Ronaldo right left and centre because shitty England get knock out a WC as extremely poor United fandom.

If yuh mellow out and engage in true "ole talk" yuh will have much less aggro on the board whether the team win or lose. If yuh can't do that then yuh best leaving the whole banter business alone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 01:38:40 AM
Some of the comments here were definitely overboard... in keeping with all the overboard comments Small Mag usually makes.

Look who wanna come and play half-paramedic fuh small mag feelings nuh, Mr. NCAA himself. (No Class At All)  NONE of the comments were overboard and NONE were anywhere CLOSE to "in keeping" with any of the shit small mag does come on here and post.  Maybe is YOU need to go overboard, like go swimming wit some REAL sharks, off the the coast of Australia somehwere.  Ah sure they have the palate fuh bile-ridden jackass meat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 10, 2011, 07:27:17 AM
FF, I know I give my fair share of banter but to me a few things I read were a little uncalled for ... and I've never been one to respond immediately after poor performances for United , it wouldn't be a nice sight

I just saying there is a difference between banter and overdoing it

Anyway,dont want to get into that.. just responding to those who were asking for me.. I'm right here, looking forward to Tomorrow's game

Uncalled for?! Overdoing it?! From you?! Lololol

Oh please eh... As i remember it, all these years and you are the only person on this board i ever had to actually PM about some post directed towards me. I say something about United and you unprovoked turn around and start to pelt ah whole volley ah cuss my direction... I had to ask you what the need for that one was as i never handle you so.

Also, how is anything that was posted here different from all the "F**k off Rent boys" and other colorful dialogue you have living in the Chelsea thread??

Yuh aint young anymore hoss.

Sidenote: What is "banter" anyway? I thought this was  a Trini board.  ???

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 10, 2011, 07:42:24 AM
I understand what allyuh fellas saying, and I have apologised for my behavior when I was posting from 15 -18 years old ... I've found my posts over the last couple years to be more football focused and more banter related than negative.. 8-2 jokes is ole talk etc .. JDB quoting stuff I said in 2006, I was a 16 year old kid then... a next one got sensitive over a f**k off rent boy.... Giggsy upset because I support Rooney and she supports Nani so much she rips Wazza to shreds and has the nerve to call herself a United fan

I'm not hiding from anything or cant take talks, banter is part of it.. I'm just saying I saw some almost personal attacks in the mix

As I said maybe you cant read my tone over text but I am not upset or disappointed , just pointing out I didnt see the need to respond when I saw some posts, because some forumites were calling out just checking up on me...

I not asking for any sympathy or anything I just wanted to explain why I didnt respond, so the respond posting of this shit where I making it about me is totally out of left field, Dont study me, study you

Oh finally,Elan, I'd love for you to make a socawarriors sweat a day, would be fun


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 10, 2011, 08:16:52 AM
 :frustrated:

I am back just to say im alive. I have stopped posting as much , so its not because of the loss haters.  Looking forward to the game today , i hope we hit them 6
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 10, 2011, 09:42:12 AM
so, at the end of all this, we still out of the Champions league, we out of Carling Cup, crapaud smoke Vidic pipe for the rest of the season, we fus game in FA cup is against City at Eithad stadium....and we leading Wolves 2-0 as of now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 10, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
I understand what allyuh fellas saying, and I have apologised for my behavior when I was posting from 15 -18 years old ... I've found my posts over the last couple years to be more football focused and more banter related than negative.. 8-2 jokes is ole talk etc .. JDB quoting stuff I said in 2006, I was a 16 year old kid then... a next one got sensitive over a f**k off rent boy.... Giggsy upset because I support Rooney and she supports Nani so much she rips Wazza to shreds and has the nerve to call herself a United fan

I'm not hiding from anything or cant take talks, banter is part of it.. I'm just saying I saw some almost personal attacks in the mix

As I said maybe you cant read my tone over text but I am not upset or disappointed , just pointing out I didnt see the need to respond when I saw some posts, because some forumites were calling out just checking up on me...

I not asking for any sympathy or anything I just wanted to explain why I didnt respond, so the respond posting of this shit where I making it about me is totally out of left field, Dont study me, study you

Oh finally,Elan, I'd love for you to make a socawarriors sweat a day, would be fun




lol........you better start training then. I give ya a couple years to get in shape.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 10, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
Some of the comments here were definitely overboard... in keeping with all the overboard comments Small Mag usually makes.

Look who wanna come and play half-paramedic fuh small mag feelings nuh, Mr. NCAA himself. (No Class At All)  NONE of the comments were overboard and NONE were anywhere CLOSE to "in keeping" with any of the shit small mag does come on here and post.  Maybe is YOU need to go overboard, like go swimming wit some REAL sharks, off the the coast of Australia somehwere.  Ah sure they have the palate fuh bile-ridden jackass meat.

Allyuh taking this quote ting Tallman started too seriously
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 11:51:24 AM
Some of the comments here were definitely overboard... in keeping with all the overboard comments Small Mag usually makes.

Look who wanna come and play half-paramedic fuh small mag feelings nuh, Mr. NCAA himself. (No Class At All)  NONE of the comments were overboard and NONE were anywhere CLOSE to "in keeping" with any of the shit small mag does come on here and post.  Maybe is YOU need to go overboard, like go swimming wit some REAL sharks, off the the coast of Australia somehwere.  Ah sure they have the palate fuh bile-ridden jackass meat.

Allyuh taking this quote ting Tallman started too seriously

I know yuh eh talkin' 'bout ME jed...Go back and read my posts (especially any one addressing that fool) and you will see I always been like this.  iI not on this forum fuh any popularty thing or to be quoted, boss, I always march to my own beat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: GunnerStunner on December 10, 2011, 06:42:03 PM
all i have to say is this:

we are all just fans, we do nothing that directly affects the team and how they play, maybe if we are actually at each game screaming our heads off.
BUT
buying a shirt and backing "ah bess side" doesnt give ANY of us the right to shit on another human being for solely backing another side.
be it banter or picong should remain team/player/manager focused and NOT directed at the supporter.

the quicker we realise this and do not engage tollerate and teach the younger one how to be real FOOTBALL fans the more fun we will have. now i a man cant take talk about his sides performance thats his problem and should take up golf

just remember, nothing lasts forever, manu fans in particular will find that lesson the hardest to learn simpy because of the great heights they have been lifted to by thier manager and the players he controlled NOT by wearing a shirt and shouting glory glory man united. i have alwayssaid i like manu the club an drespect thie rachievements i do not like how thier fans treat other supporters of other clubs. wlcome to the beginning of the end of an era

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 10, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
:frustrated:

I am back just to say im alive. I have stopped posting as much , so its not because of the loss haters.  Looking forward to the game today , i hope we hit them 6

We need to win against teams with that barca color scheme.... basil and c.p. have that same juzzy color scheme also.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 07:03:03 PM
:frustrated:

I am back just to say im alive. I have stopped posting as much , so its not because of the loss haters.  Looking forward to the game today , i hope we hit them 6

We need to win against teams with that barca color scheme.... basil and c.p. have that same juzzy color scheme also.  :beermug:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 10, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
all i have to say is this:

we are all just fans, we do nothing that directly affects the team and how they play, maybe if we are actually at each game screaming our heads off.
BUT
buying a shirt and backing "ah bess side" doesnt give ANY of us the right to shit on another human being for solely backing another side.
be it banter or picong should remain team/player/manager focused and NOT directed at the supporter.

the quicker we realise this and do not engage tollerate and teach the younger one how to be real FOOTBALL fans the more fun we will have. now i a man cant take talk about his sides performance thats his problem and should take up golf

just remember, nothing lasts forever, manu fans in particular will find that lesson the hardest to learn simpy because of the great heights they have been lifted to by thier manager and the players he controlled NOT by wearing a shirt and shouting glory glory man united. i have alwayssaid i like manu the club an drespect thie rachievements i do not like how thier fans treat other supporters of other clubs. wlcome to the beginning of the end of an era



 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 11, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
As much as I like Manchester United our failure to attract world class defenders, play makers and strikers is hurting us. I do not like Rooney or this Gascoigne affection that people have with him. Rooney simply does not have the depth to be an international or world class striker for eg Euro 2004 (nice goals against the Swiss), WC 2006, Euro 2008-OOPS, WC 2010 were all failures in my books.. Manchester United fans have to invest their hopes in him, season after season, because the Glazers refuse to invest in anything better. Our defenders are just good enough for the EPL. You don't see many offers for our defenders from our opponents during the transfer window or at the end of the season. Looking at Liverpool, Chelski and Man City this season, I fear that Manchester United will be dethroned as kings on the BPL. It's been a nice ride and an opportunity to pong our critics but we have to admit, that for the last 6 or 7 games we have been dismal. I was surprised that we were able to keep up with the teams in our group in the CL, a lot of those draws were undeserved. Hopefully in this transfer season we will be able to invest in the rest of the season. Maybe a miracle will be produced within the youth team between now and January.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 11, 2011, 05:23:58 PM
:frustrated:

I am back just to say im alive. I have stopped posting as much , so its not because of the loss haters.  Looking forward to the game today , i hope we hit them 6

We need to win against teams with that barca color scheme.... basil and c.p. have that same juzzy color scheme also.  :beermug:

 :rotfl:

You think I joking, In rome we lost with that white against Barca colors , Wembley that white  against Barca and dem colors, We lost against Crystal Palace and that is CP colors when they playing at home and Fc Basel with de barca color scheme beat we wearing that white.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 11, 2011, 05:44:08 PM
:frustrated:

I am back just to say im alive. I have stopped posting as much , so its not because of the loss haters.  Looking forward to the game today , i hope we hit them 6

We need to win against teams with that barca color scheme.... basil and c.p. have that same juzzy color scheme also.  :beermug:

 :rotfl:

You think I joking, In rome we lost with that white against Barca colors , Wembley that white  against Barca and dem colors, We lost against Crystal Palace and that is CP colors when they playing at home and Fc Basel with de barca color scheme beat we wearing that white.

Nah, Jed, I know yuh serious....my laughter was half at the fact that (without checking to confirm at the time) yuh was probably right and half for the fact that none of the haters (myself included/especially) didn't pick up on it we own self.  Doh geh no horrors.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dumpalewie on December 11, 2011, 05:50:33 PM
all i have to say is this:

we are all just fans, we do nothing that directly affects the team and how they play, maybe if we are actually at each game screaming our heads off.
BUT
buying a shirt and backing "ah bess side" doesnt give ANY of us the right to shit on another human being for solely backing another side.
be it banter or picong should remain team/player/manager focused and NOT directed at the supporter.

the quicker we realise this and do not engage tollerate and teach the younger one how to be real FOOTBALL fans the more fun we will have. now i a man cant take talk about his sides performance thats his problem and should take up golf

just remember, nothing lasts forever, manu fans in particular will find that lesson the hardest to learn simpy because of the great heights they have been lifted to by thier manager and the players he controlled NOT by wearing a shirt and shouting glory glory man united. i have alwayssaid i like manu the club an drespect thie rachievements i do not like how thier fans treat other supporters of other clubs. wlcome to the beginning of the end of an era


Great post!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 11, 2011, 05:53:50 PM
all i have to say is this:

we are all just fans, we do nothing that directly affects the team and how they play, maybe if we are actually at each game screaming our heads off.
BUT
buying a shirt and backing "ah bess side" doesnt give ANY of us the right to shit on another human being for solely backing another side.
be it banter or picong should remain team/player/manager focused and NOT directed at the supporter.

the quicker we realise this and do not engage tollerate and teach the younger one how to be real FOOTBALL fans the more fun we will have. now i a man cant take talk about his sides performance thats his problem and should take up golf

just remember, nothing lasts forever, manu fans in particular will find that lesson the hardest to learn simpy because of the great heights they have been lifted to by thier manager and the players he controlled NOT by wearing a shirt and shouting glory glory man united. i have alwayssaid i like manu the club an drespect thie rachievements i do not like how thier fans treat other supporters of other clubs. wlcome to the beginning of the end of an era


Great post!


Agreed.....and I ESPECIALLY like the very last sentence.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 11, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
stueps alyuh good yes, UTD just going through a bad patch , with form and injuries , doh get carried away
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 11, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
all i have to say is this:

we are all just fans, we do nothing that directly affects the team and how they play, maybe if we are actually at each game screaming our heads off.
BUT
buying a shirt and backing "ah bess side" doesnt give ANY of us the right to shit on another human being for solely backing another side.
be it banter or picong should remain team/player/manager focused and NOT directed at the supporter.

the quicker we realise this and do not engage tollerate and teach the younger one how to be real FOOTBALL fans the more fun we will have. now i a man cant take talk about his sides performance thats his problem and should take up golf

just remember, nothing lasts forever, manu fans in particular will find that lesson the hardest to learn simpy because of the great heights they have been lifted to by thier manager and the players he controlled NOT by wearing a shirt and shouting glory glory man united. i have alwayssaid i like manu the club an drespect thie rachievements i do not like how thier fans treat other supporters of other clubs. wlcome to the beginning of the end of an era


Yuh think this is Assenal ah wat? :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh wish this is the end huh? Time and time again Man.United has made their haters swallow the shit they like to spit. I don't think anyone said that we would win every competition every year, so it's not like we immune to defeat, however, we have always bounced back from competition elimination, league defeats and players personal controversy. So I don't see us crumbling like some of you all would love to see. We may not win shit this year and I'll be the first to say that I would be very disappointed, but I know it won't stop Man.United from being a top competitive club in Europe.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on December 13, 2011, 05:07:29 PM
Ulcerative Colitis. This is a serious matter. All the best Darren!!

Manchester United's Darren Fletcher out indefinitely with illness

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/13/manchester-united-darren-fletcher-illness/print

 
Darren Fletcher has been forced to take an 'extended break' from football as he battles with ulcerative colitis.
Manchester United have suffered another serious setback in their defence of the Premier League title amid fears at Old Trafford that Darren Fletcher's career is on the line because of the health issues that have ruled him out for the season and left Sir Alex Ferguson with a gaping hole in his midfield.

Fletcher is taking what United have described as an "extended break" after doctors warned him he was putting his health at serious risk by continuing to play despite the rare bowel condition that has affected him for the last year.

United are so concerned about the health of the Scotland international captain they have been unable to put any timescale on how long he will need out of the game, or even guarantee that he will be able to resume his career.

Until now, the champions have attributed Fletcher's spells out of the team to a mystery virus, but the club have now disclosed they did this purely "to respect his right to medical confidentiality" and, with the player's consent, released more details in a statement that makes clear the seriousness of the issue.

"Darren has, in fact, been suffering from ulcerative colitis, a chronic inflammatory bowel condition, for some time preceding this [last year]," the statement said. "While he was able to maintain remission of symptoms for a considerable period, this has proved more difficult recently and Darren's continued desire to play and his loyalty to both his club and country has probably compromised the chances of optimising his health and fitness.

"He has therefore accepted medical advice to take an extended break from the demands of training and playing in order to afford himself the best chance possible of achieving full remission once again."

The news comes within a week of United's elimination from the Champions League coinciding with Nemanja Vidic rupturing his cruciate knee ligaments, an injury that will keep the club captain out for a minimum nine months. United do, however, have cover in the centre of defence whereas Fletcher's absence threatens to be a considerable blow given Ferguson's already significant problems in midfield.

Anderson has been ruled out until February with a knee problem, while Tom Cleverley will be missing until January with an ankle injury, and the club's failure to bring in the top-quality central midfielder that Ferguson wanted in the summer has led to Phil Jones and Wayne Rooney both being tried in the position.

United had tried, and failed, to sign Wesley Sneijder from Internazionale and Samir Nasri from Arsenal, and the club now have little option but to consider going into the January transfer market. Ferguson stated last Friday that he had "nothing in mind at the moment" but the issue is now so serious it is almost inconceivable that he will not at least look at potential targets.

Uppermost in Ferguson's thoughts, however, is the seriousness of Fletcher's condition and the feeling behind the scenes at Old Trafford that he needs to put his health first, whatever the ramifications for his employers. United rarely release public statements about player injuries or medical conditions and the fact they felt willing to break this policy is another demonstration of how grave their concerns are for a 27-year-old who should be at the peak of his game.

Fletcher, who has made 302 appearances for United and won 58 international caps, has looked noticeably gaunt at times and, in other moments, his face has appeared bloated because of the drugs he has been prescribed. He missed six months of action earlier this year but has always maintained before now that he did not know what the illness was. "I felt drained and weak and was bed-bound for a bit," he said in September. "The biggest thing was losing the weight. The virus was bad but for someone like me to lose the weight I did, it was really difficult to put back on."

United have gone public after a deterioration in his condition last week led to more medical tests. Fletcher was an unused substitute in the 2-1 defeat at Basel but had complained of feeling weak and was unable to train on Friday. "We request that his privacy is respected and hope that the removal of the additional stress associated with speculation regarding his health will also aid his recovery," United said.

What is ulcerative colitis?

Dr Ian Arnott is a leading specialist in ulcerative colitis. He is a consultant gastroenterologist at the Western General hospital in Edinburgh and the Royal College of Physicians' associate director for the UK-wide, NHS-funded inflammatory bowel disease audit.

"Ulcerative colitis can be a very disabling condition and leaves people weak, tired, frustrated and lacking energy. It can change people's lives completely. They can't be very far from the toilet so aren't able to go out very much. Patients tell me that when they go to a nearby town or city, they know exactly where every toilet is, because they often get very little warning about needing to go to the toilet. It can mean that people have accidents with their bowel motions. It's an embarrassing condition — it's a difficult subject to talk to people about.

"It is a serious inflammation of the large bowel, which is better-known as the colon. Where it should be pink, smooth and nice it becomes red, weepy and unhappy — it looks like you've taken the skin off your knee. The main symptoms are diarrhea, blood in stools, stomach pains and feeling rotten. It goes up and down. You will have good periods of remission when you feel normal — that can be a month or even a few years — and bad periods when you feel dreadful and can be forced to go to the toilet six, eight or ten times a day around the clock, including two or three times a night. If you can imagine having food poisoning and that going on for weeks on end, rather than days, that's what it's like.

"It's quite a common condition. If you take ulcerative colitis together with Crohn's disease, which has similar symptoms, they are known together as inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). One in 200 people in the UK develop IBD, so around 300,000 have that. Young people aged between ten and 40 get it.

"It's not a curable condition unless you have an operation. With surgery you take the colon out completely. People often need an external bag to collect their faeces, though some people get an internal pouch which lets them go to the toilet normally. So you wouldn't have surgery unless you had to. However, one-third of patients end up having an operation to remove their colon at some point in their lives.

"The cause of colitis is unknown. It's genetic to some extent, but less than with Crohn's disease, but something unknown in the environment comes along and sets it off. It could be food, atmospheric pollution or stress — no one really knows what it is. It could be all of them."


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 05:28:47 PM
I am certainly no fan of darren fletcher or his club.....but I really sympathize with him on this.  This cannot be a "comfortable" sickness to have.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 13, 2011, 06:09:58 PM
shocking news when I heard it.. really feeling it for him.. A very tough year for Fletch, hope the break sorts him out and he can come back strong

now to my next point, with Anderson(who is total shit) out till Feb with a knee injury, Fletch out in my opinion for the season, Cleverley out till the new year and 38 year old Giggs and even though he is in good form but mr inconsistent Carrick surely we must, WE MUST go into the transfer market for a midfielder.. it may not be a Modric that we need but we must get some quality in there ... Christian Eriksen , Mario Gotze are out of the CL too, maybe a cheeky bid? other names that will be in the mix are Tiote, M'Villa, Javi Martinez etc..  maybe a loan deal? Kaka perhaps? Fergie may reinvent him and give him a new lease of life...

In my opinion we need a defender and a midfielder in January. one more injury to the backline and we could be in serious trouble especially as Rio has been plagued over the last 3 seasons

If Fergie doesnt address this in January I'd be very very surprised and very alarmed
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 18, 2011, 07:14:24 AM
Wey tuh me decisive Carrick!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 20, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
Keane v Ferguson: The rematch

Keane's tongue should not be curbed (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/999425/john-brewin:-keane's-tongue-should-not-be-curbed?cc=5901)
By John Brewin


"A statue has never been erected in honour of a critic" is Finnish composer Jean Sibelius' best-known work. As Manchester United's most decorated captain and the driving force behind a decade of dominance, Roy Keane may one day debunk those bon mots but any day of mounting a plinth at Old Trafford has been delayed for some time yet. He has become an outsider shouting in.

Keane's relationship with the club he embodied for 12 years looks broken beyond repair though that was once said of his relationship with the Irish national team, to which he eventually returned after self-imposed exile. He only did so once Mick McCarthy, with whom he also eventually shared a ceasefire, was no longer Ireland manager. Any rapprochement in red waits on the departure from Old Trafford of Sir Alex Ferguson, a doomsday that may well be close yet seems so far.

With Ferguson's influence expected to extend well beyond retirement from team matters, Keane can only expect years of exile. Ever the outsider, Keane is unlikely to be fazed by that. It is difficult to imagine him joining the clubbable ranks of the ex-players who entertain those at Old Trafford whose dining preferences he once infamously described as "probably the prawn sandwiches".

Exile from football, however, has proven more difficult to stomach for Keane, whose managerial career suffered two possibly fatal reverses at Sunderland and Ipswich Town. He has tried to sate himself with some at Warrington rugby league club, and then some incognito trips to see Wigan Athletic at home which ended in a run-in with the DW Stadium ticket office.

This is how he has ended up as a television pundit, and at the centre of his latest feud with Ferguson. At a time when most punditry is a series of non-committal old pal's acts, or stats-drenched minutiae that can neither enlighten nor entertain, Roy Keane's brand of honesty has proved refreshing. In the fall-out of United's Champions League exit, who better to offer qualified opinion than Keane? Perhaps only Ferguson would be better qualified.


Except Ferguson, on prompting from a journalist in Basle who had clearly been fed by his newsdesk back in London, clearly did not see it that way. Even at a time of crisis, chiding Keane for his record in management looked a cheap shot. It was followed by programme notes where subtlety did not stop Keane drawing offence when he felt himself singled out as one of those "people we thought were perhaps on our side". A favoured journalist was called and from there the Sunday Times had an explosive story as a theatre of war reopened.

Both men are prone to overreaction, and they share a similar reaction to perceived offence: attack. Yet it is perhaps Keane who has struck the most sensitive nerve this time.

"People say Ferguson always does what's right for Man United. I don't think he does. I think he does what's right for him," flew in the face of perceived media wisdom among that nebulous bunch that terms itself "football people" that the club always comes first for Ferguson. Keane pointed to prime evidence in the Rock of Gibraltar affair, where a squabble over horse-breeding rights with United's major shareholders caused a state of equity to allow the Glazer family to purchase the club. Indeed, the Glazer ownership and Ferguson's public support of it was the fork in the road for many United fans. They may be happy to hail his footballing achievements, but reservations are drawn thereafter on his personal motives.

It has been repeatedly said that no man is bigger than Manchester United, which Keane would countenance. Yet in recent years, Ferguson has redrawn his boundaries, choosing instead to repeat that the most important man at any club is the manager, itself a doubtful idea in the era of oligarchs and oil billionaire owners. He might well ask Andre Villas-Boas and Steve Kean, to name just two, how they feel about that idea.

But then again, Ferguson's achievements and magnetism have allowed him to draw up his own rules. In speaking out, Keane has merely broken them. It seems inconceivable that two more of his finest captains in Steve Bruce and Bryan Robson would ever level public criticism at the man all his players, even Keane, refer to simply as "the manager". Even the enigma of Eric Cantona stopped short of reproachment.


Keane, though, was always different. At his peak, Ferguson allowed him to stand out. His greatest problem may be that in the end he was treated the same as any other player. Once Ferguson had made his full use of him, then there was no place left at United. Here, Keane can compare notes with precious gems like Robson and Bruce right down to the rejects section of Ralph Milne and Jim Leighton. Two combustible elements combined to result in spectacular exit in November 2005, and relations have worsened since.

So, to life on the outside for Keane and a life in punditry, a pursuit he once said he'd "rather go to the dentist" than take up. His criticism of the likes of Phil Jones, Chris Smalling and Ashley Young in Basle was by no means unfair. Few doubted him when he said: "I'd be getting hold of some of those lads, saying, 'You'd better buck up your ideas'."

And perhaps Roy Keane in his prime was just the player that United required as they froze in the Swiss snow. Meanwhile, the current 40-year-old version provides an altogether healthy difference to the deference too often aimed at Ferguson, since he seemingly remains the only alumni beyond his former boss' control. Manchester United as a club should not be beyond criticism, and of anyone, Keane should be allowed his say to be heard.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 21, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
team pushing on nicely .. dominating victory at difficult Fulham today

Jones and Young had to be withdrawn with injuries though...  Fergie estimates Young at 2-3 weeks but it looked more a dead leg, I reckon Blackburn on the 31st he'd be back.. as for Jones , took a wicked elbow early in the game.. Fergie says he is going for an X Ray of his jaw.. he looked concussed too..  The kid is a beast.. I think he'll play vs Wigan on boxing day

Carrick is having a fine month , hope it continues as we need him to be the main man until the wounded recover to add the depth... Looking forward to having a rejuvenated Carrick partner the exciting Cleverley ..

What a cracker from Wazza today.. and Nani with a couple assists and a goal just keeps on improving... and my boy Berba with a silky backheel for the 5th... great stuff today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 26, 2011, 10:36:39 AM
Damn, Valencia finding form. Berba!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
City draw  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 26, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
City draw  :devil:

And we only 5 behind in goal difference! :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 31, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
I swear we had Justin Bebier in goal today. DeGea needs tuh train the Muscles from Brussels! Good to see Ando back and with a big boy haircut.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on December 31, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
Elan, hush yuh arse! (in advance & happy new year  :beermug:)  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on December 31, 2011, 09:30:32 AM
Well done, Fergie... Raphael in midfield while Valencia is at right back. Genius.
Rooney and Gibson better be injured or an explanation is necessary.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on December 31, 2011, 09:58:33 AM
I cyah believe I miss this game! I watch it this morning and was like - easy win for united.
As a hater, I am disappointed that I went back to sleep.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 31, 2011, 10:47:52 AM
Nothing worse than waking up this early, to watch the team lorse and have tuh put up ESPn's coverage! No win situation!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on December 31, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
I cyah believe I miss this game! I watch it this morning and was like - easy win for united.
As a hater, I am disappointed that I went back to sleep.  :devil:

hahahah, I wish I didn't get up to see the game.... :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 31, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
I was just about to come and drop my customary  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: in this thread until i see Chelsea gone and eff it up for me.. steups.

Anyway happy new year man u fans.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 31, 2011, 12:00:25 PM
Elan, hush yuh arse! (in advance & happy new year  :beermug:)  :frustrated:

Like we team trying to see who could let City take the title easier.  :pissedoff:

Happy New Year   :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 31, 2011, 05:02:23 PM
Well done, Fergie... Raphael in midfield while Valencia is at right back. Genius.
Rooney and Gibson better be injured or an explanation is necessary.


Look yuh explanation here...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2080810/Wayne-Rooney-axed-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Boxing-Day-dinner-Coleen.html

70 years old, that old man getting senile.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on December 31, 2011, 05:30:27 PM
Elan, hush yuh arse! (in advance & happy new year  :beermug:)  :frustrated:

Like we team trying to see who could let City take the title easier.  :pissedoff:

Happy New Year   :beermug:

Nah boy Elan, when yuh in 5th place and 11 points off the top, yuh not really having a conversation with the league leaders. 

Man U might be giving City the title... Chelsea is a different set of woes. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 01, 2012, 11:22:53 AM
City loss today, still equal on points.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2012, 01:16:51 PM
thank god
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on January 01, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
City loss??? :whew: Well this is some drama...next ting a team like Liverpool come out from no where and take the title
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 01, 2012, 04:53:14 PM
City loss??? :whew: Well this is some drama...next ting a team like Liverpool come out from no where and take the title
I was thinking Tottenham. Personally if Man.United don't win it, I would not mind Spurs winning it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 02, 2012, 09:39:59 AM
Elan, hush yuh arse! (in advance & happy new year  :beermug:)  :frustrated:

Like we team trying to see who could let City take the title easier.  :pissedoff:

Happy New Year   :beermug:

Aye look thing eh, leh meh extend an apology. Football make ah fool of me, ah say if we get we tail cut by blackburn, and chelski have to play Villa that is ah sure win fuh de Blues, and if city taking on sunlun, den the lead on top of the table will be extended. Chelski will close de gap and yuh go cay hear the end of elan pongin we...   :laugh:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
Rooney will be sold before Fergie retires and before his transfer value deminishes further. I think his skills have not improved and his play has been very inconsistent for the season. People could say United got taken when Rooney ended up getting a 200.000 week contract, but it gives United the power to get rid of him when they need to, due to him being under contract.  Rooney may have won that battle but he will not in the war with Fergie.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on January 02, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
question...this thread can double up as a City thread as well? can they squat here?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 02, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
question...this thread can double up as a City thread as well? can they squat here?
Answer HELLLLL NOOOO!!!!!...City fans can squat with that other team that tries to buy the trophy every year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 02, 2012, 05:50:42 PM
question...this thread can double up as a City thread as well? can they squat here?

City fans are Chelski fans in disguise, check "the home of the champions" thread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 02, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
question...this thread can double up as a City thread as well? can they squat here?
Answer HELLLLL NOOOO!!!!!...City fans can squat with that other team that tries to buy the trophy every year.

Lol! Yuh know it have some forumite wanting tuh start a Ciy thread  but dey fraid to be called waggonist! People should call the thread ABU or home of the hators and that should take care of that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 02, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
blasphemy :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 02, 2012, 08:41:27 PM
question...this thread can double up as a City thread as well? can they squat here?

I will personally bulldoze they house 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 02, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Elan, hush yuh arse! (in advance & happy new year  :beermug:)  :frustrated:

Like we team trying to see who could let City take the title easier.  :pissedoff:

Happy New Year   :beermug:

Aye look thing eh, leh meh extend an apology. Football make ah fool of me, ah say if we get we tail cut by blackburn, and chelski have to play Villa that is ah sure win fuh de Blues, and if city taking on sunlun, den the lead on top of the table will be extended. Chelski will close de gap and yuh go cay hear the end of elan pongin we...   :laugh:


Boy licks like peas....yes. I have to stay in meh hole.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2012, 02:33:49 PM
Howard Webb is in mid-season form.

Demba Ba is a frickin beast!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on January 04, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
Yuh ain't see ah have tuh give him he own thread
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2012, 03:07:47 PM
Bring back DeGea!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2012, 03:27:02 PM
Ameobi has been a 1/2 step slow this entire game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 04, 2012, 03:32:52 PM
Ba nutmegging man like it going out ah style.  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Obertan? Really? This clumsy fella will give Man U a goal...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2012, 03:51:13 PM
I meant Jones :D

 :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on January 04, 2012, 03:53:32 PM
Bush bath fuh Jones? Ooh Guude, da boi had a rough outing
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 04, 2012, 03:56:13 PM
Jones is just another English player, a lot ah hype. Just like all the others will amount to 0.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2012, 03:56:22 PM
stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 04, 2012, 03:58:36 PM
Manchester derby in the Cup coming up too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 04, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
Ba inspires rampant Newcastle (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=318027&cc=5901)

 
Newcastle striker Demba Ba signed off in style as Manchester United's hopes of retaining their Barclays Premier League title were dealt a fresh blow with a 3-0 defeat.

The free signing plundered his 15th goal of the season in what seems certain to be his final appearance for the Magpies before heading off on African Nations Cup duty with Senegal to set United on the way to their first back-to-back league defeats for 10 months.

Frenchman Yohan Cabaye sealed a first victory over Sir Alex Ferguson's men in more than 10 years with a stunning 47th-minute free-kick with Phil Jones' late own goal simply cementing their seventh place in the table.

Even Wayne Rooney's return from his exile could not spark United into life as Newcastle added to the pain inflicted on his side by lowly Blackburn at the weekend in front of a delighted crowd of 52,299.

Keeper Anders Lindegaard, who has repeatedly warned he had not joined United simply to "pick his nose'', was handed a start in place of David de Gea, unlike Magpies midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa, who was named only among the substitutes despite declaring roughly the same sentiment in the run-up to the game.

Pardew sent out his side having seen them win just one of their last eight league games and knowing the challenge of improving on that run could hardly be much more difficult against a wounded United.

However, his players set about their task with a real relish and while they were forced to defend in determined fashion throughout, they did so more than competently with skipper Fabricio Coloccini and Mike Williamson in particularly miserly form.

In addition, they produced enough of an attacking threat not only to keep the champions on their toes, but to take a lead they rarely looked like relinquishing.

Indeed, Pardew's men, having survived an early scare when Coloccini just managed to cut out Ryan Giggs' attempted through-ball to Dimitar Berbatov in the opening minute, took the game to the visitors in the early stages.

Ba was uncharacteristically wasteful when he failed to make a meaningful connection with Danny Simpson's teasing fourth-minute cross, and Cabaye tested Lindegaard's mettle with a shot from distance two minutes later.

The Dane also had to deal with Cheick Tiote's skidding long-range drive, although as United worked their way into the game, it was they who started to threaten.

Tim Krul had to make a smart reaction save from Nani's 12th-minute snapshot, and the keeper managed to claim the rebound before the predatory Rooney was able to pounce.

Berbatov clipped the outside of the post with a deflected header three minutes later, but Newcastle were not content to sit back and defend.

They had been awarded and converted a contentious penalty in the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford in November, and they were appealing for another with 25 minutes gone, this time in vain, after Ba went down in a tangle of legs with Rio Ferdinand, the man whose challenge on Ben Arfa had been ruled illegal on home turf.

But the former West Ham frontman got his chance 12 minutes before the break, and as so often this season, took it in spectacular fashion.

Shola Ameobi climbed high above Phil Jones to flick on Krul's long free-kick and Ba swivelled instantly to smash a right-foot volley high past the stranded Lindegaard.

Ryan Taylor curled a 44th-minute free-kick just over after Tiote had left Rooney for dead with a neat trick and Ba prompted Giggs to foul him 30 yards out.

Lindegaard also had to deal with a nastily dipping Ba effort from distance in injury-time with the Magpies sensing an opportunity.

Jones' first season at Old Trafford has been largely exemplary, but the youngster's difficult evening on Tyneside took a further turn for the worse within seconds of the restart.

He barged Ba to the ground 30 yards out as the striker threatened to run away from him, and Cabaye curled the resulting free-kick in off the underside of the crossbar with Lindegaard once again helpless.

Central defender Williamson headed a 55th-minute Ryan Taylor corner just over with the Magpies pinning the visitors back to thwart their efforts to launch a recovery.

United would have been back in it within four minutes had it not been for old boy Danny Simpson, who somehow managed to block Rooney's point-blank volley from a Nani cross.

The visitors were enjoying their best spell of the game as Newcastle's defending became increasingly desperate.

But with no sign of a breakthrough, Rooney made way for midfielder Anderson with 15 minutes remaining, although United's efforts became increasingly toothless with the home side simply needing to maintain concentration.

That they did, and Jones' miserable evening was complete in the final minute of normal time when he headed Krul's deep free-kick into his own net.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 04, 2012, 06:18:26 PM
If was Arsenal ManU fans would of said Man vs Boys. Today BA and Amoebi batter the ManU back line. While Newcastle midfield dominated physically.
Good game for Newcastle overall they deserve the win.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 04, 2012, 06:29:26 PM
Until we get better and stronger in mdifield we will not win Europe and have difficulty competing with teams who have very strong midfield play in England. If we can't control the midfield, teams will have free rain on the defense. I am waiting to see who, what and when we buy. I say play the youth, they can't be worse than what is in there now. Jones needs to go back to playing defense and learn how to be a defender, enough of this midfield crap. Leanr how to defend properly first.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on January 04, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
You wouldn't think Newcastle played the same congested fixture list as ManU the way they ran today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 04, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Ba-hahahah..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on January 05, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
Until we get better and stronger in mdifield we will not win Europe and have difficulty competing with teams who have very strong midfield play in England. If we can't control the midfield, teams will have free rain on the defense. I am waiting to see who, what and when we buy. I say play the youth, they can't be worse than what is in there now. Jones needs to go back to playing defense and learn how to be a defender, enough of this midfield crap. Leanr how to defend properly first.
True talk...and on current form, Man U could be looking at a trophy-less season...(cyar count Community Shield)
Carling Cup: Done
CL: Done
FA Cup: Away game to Man City
Europa League: First game against Ajax
Premier League: They still have to play Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City away
On top of that, injuries and a weak (physically) mid field
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 05, 2012, 09:24:54 AM
Until we get better and stronger in mdifield we will not win Europe and have difficulty competing with teams who have very strong midfield play in England. If we can't control the midfield, teams will have free rain on the defense. I am waiting to see who, what and when we buy. I say play the youth, they can't be worse than what is in there now. Jones needs to go back to playing defense and learn how to be a defender, enough of this midfield crap. Leanr how to defend properly first.
True talk...and on current form, Man U could be looking at a trophy-less season...(cyar count Community Shield)
Carling Cup: Done
CL: Done
FA Cup: Away game to Man City
Europa League: First game against Ajax
Premier League: They still have to play Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City away
On top of that, injuries and a weak (physically) mid field


Don't cry injury, because when allyuh hit Arsenal hard cuff and Arsenal fans cried injury, ManU fans jump up and say
every team have injuries.  Take it, take it  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 05, 2012, 09:41:18 AM
Got this from a geordie friend.

"Colleen is a slapper,

She wears a wonderbra,

And when she's shagging Rooney,

She thinks of Demba Ba".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 06, 2012, 09:56:41 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article6286052.ece/ALTERNATES/w202h90/202x90+i+banner.jpg
 
Nobody is bigger than the boss – not even Rooney
Ferguson has parted with dissenters before in spite of their stature – or because of it


Glenn Moore  Saturday 07 January 2012

From Paul McGrath and Norman Whiteside in the early days, then, as his authority was cemented, to Paul Ince, David Beckham, Jaap Stam, Roy Keane and Carlos Tevez, Sir Alex Ferguson has always been prepared to move on good players, even great ones, who challenge him either directly or through the way they live.

Wayne Rooney, it appears, may be about to find that he is as dispensable as the others.

There are times when this refusal to countenance dissent has weakened the team in the short term, such as when Stam was forced out, but even at 70 years of age Ferguson takes the long view. Rooney would be very difficult to replace, but it is harder to control a dressing room when some of its members believe themselves more important than the boss.

Ferguson has said that a manager can never lose an argument, suggesting he has not, but this is only partly true. Players have more power now and he was unable to hold on to Cristiano Ronaldo and Gerard Pique. He has also been prepared to compromise when he needs a player. As Keane recently revealed, he and Ferguson had many disputes when Keane was in his prime. Ferguson always found a way to make peace, to accommodate his warrior captain. Until, that is, Keane's powers began to wane. Then Keane was shown the door. As he said last month, "the difference then was that I was 34".

Rooney is only 26, and still growing as a player, but his performances lack the reliability of Keane. In the last couple of years Rooney's form has either been red hot, or ice cold. While some players – John Terry would be the obvious example – play to par regardless of what maelstrom may be enveloping them, extraneous factors seem to weigh Rooney down. When that happens his body language betrays a lack of desire and he seems to draw within himself before lashing out, as with England in Montenegro, in apparent frustration.

The split between Ferguson and Rooney is understood to date back to the infamous transfer request a year ago. Then Ferguson gave in, swallowing his pride to welcome Rooney back into a dressing room the quality of whose occupants Rooney had questioned. As when he settled with Keane, Ferguson had considered the bigger picture and he seemed to be rewarded. In the second half of last season, Rooney scored nine goals in 13 Premier League starts as United regained the title. All seemed well.

Rooney began this campaign scoring at a rate superior to a goal a game, but then came the arrest of his father and uncle for alleged involvement in a match-fixing scheme. The following day he played against Montenegro, scored, but was then dismissed. Since then he has scored five goals in 15 games. In itself that would not be a problem, not least because he played on several occasions in midfield because of United's lack of alternatives, and did well there. What appears to have infuriated Ferguson is the Christmas night out with Jonny Evans and Darron Gibson, an allegedly dishevelled and disinterested appearance at training the following day, and subsequent sulky performance when recalled at Newcastle.

While Ferguson has shown in the past he is prepared to give way when dealing with star players – his initial reaction to Eric Cantona's lunge into the crowd at Selhurst Park was to sack him – there is a line he, and any other manager, must draw. When a senior player becomes mutinous he has to be moved on. Otherwise he will become the focus of a negative clique in the dressing room, and a bad example on the training ground. The latter aspect is crucial at United. A hunger for success is not easy to sustain. For years Ferguson has succeeded in driving United on to title after title, and one of the means by which he has done so is through a training ground culture in which senior players set the lead. Keane, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs ... all outstanding trainers, as were Cantona and Beckham.

New players, and youth players, join United, see how hard the stars work, and follow suit. Giggs is still there, but the others are gone and Rooney is now one of the senior pros. At a time when United's young players have been accused of being complacent Ferguson cannot allow a diminution of commitment. That Ferguson felt he had to discipline Evans and Gibson, too, will not have helped Rooney's cause. It may be Ferguson has decided Rooney has to go because of his stature, not despite it.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 06, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
Guess Dwight Yorke was not a good player at Man Utd  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 08, 2012, 06:07:55 AM
Paul Scholes on the bench for United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 07:08:58 AM
Scholes  :salute:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16460340.stm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 07:11:31 AM
Come on reds!!!! 1 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 07:13:17 AM
RED CARD  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 08, 2012, 07:18:23 AM
Red Card Kompany... who will follow...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 08, 2012, 07:21:19 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 08, 2012, 07:24:31 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

Elan go cook some breakfast for de woman nah... :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 08, 2012, 07:36:03 AM
2 zip...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 07:37:47 AM
REF looking card happy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 07:41:05 AM
Game done 3 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 08, 2012, 07:47:53 AM
game eh done till we ress 10 on dem... revenge... :pissedoff:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 08:18:05 AM
Scholes on
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 08:24:39 AM
oh dear
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 08, 2012, 08:24:48 AM
Uh oh...  ::)
Scholes like he still retired
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 08, 2012, 08:42:21 AM
If you now tune in, you might wonder what year it is.
Hargreaves, Scholes...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
Dem fellas and dem killin meh and we win! Van Der Sa any one?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on January 08, 2012, 10:14:42 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
Dem fellas and dem killin meh and we win! Van Der Sa any one?

We both keepers in a mess. Im hoping they get better with time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
Dem fellas and dem killin meh and we win! Van Der Sa any one?

We both keepers in a mess. Im hoping they get better with time.

I dos be rell uneasy watchin this team this year. I find rell players dos be rell carless with the ball and they just not playing smart football. Don't know if they stale but men doing rell dotishness on the field. Is like half the side dos get brainlock, and there seems to be no leadership on the field.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on January 08, 2012, 11:05:49 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 
Very true, all the die-hard Man City fans on this board will be moaning about it for weeks...

Oh wait there aren't any.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 11:17:18 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 
Very true, all the die-hard Man City fans on this board will be moaning about it for weeks...

Oh wait there aren't any.

Yes there are, some are disguised as Chelski fans. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on January 08, 2012, 11:52:10 AM
United travel to Liverpool in the 4th round.

Was actually expecting something like that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on January 08, 2012, 01:01:26 PM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 
Very true, all the plastic Man City fans on this board will be moaning about it for weeks...

Oh wait there aren't any.

Tidied for you
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Brownsugar on January 08, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.


hhhhmmmm........let me watch de replay again.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 08, 2012, 05:12:41 PM
Jones and Ferdinand pull rell stones today...I also have to give credit for the way Man.City fought back, and could have tied it up given more time with the type of shit our guys were playing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.


hhhhmmmm........let me watch de replay again.....

Yuh know Elan lurkin somewhere with a slo mo, to replace the Rooney image he presently sporting.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 08, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
Jones and Ferdinand pull rell stones today...I also have to give credit for the way Man.City fought back, and could have tied it up given more time with the type of shit our guys were playing.

Smalling better than both of them! I think Rio has yet to accept that he can no longer rely on his athletic ability to cover for his usually guaranted one or two brain fart moments in a game. As a result he needs to focus harder and make higher percentage plays with the ball.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 08, 2012, 06:01:47 PM
team need a flecking purge , this is one of the most frustrating teams to watch in recent memory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 09, 2012, 09:03:29 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

That was at best a yellow card tackle.  No way on earth that was a straight red, except in the mind of Chris Foy.  Not only did Kompany win the ball clean, even if Nani had not jumped, Kompany won the ball first.  Yes it was a two-footed challenge, but it wasn't two feet at the ball, it was just the right... the left foot was really incidental to the challenge.  Changed the entire tenor of the match.  Hard to play 11 vs. 12... let alone 10 vs. 12.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 09, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.

I wasn't aware that people supposed to get red cards for what MIGHT have happened IF contact or IF the challenged was not properly timed.

If that was a legitimate red card then make football a non contact sport.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 09, 2012, 09:57:36 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.

I wasn't aware that people supposed to get red cards for what MIGHT have happened IF contact or IF the challenged was not properly timed.

If that was a legitimate red card then make football a non contact sport.

She is a MunUre fan wha yuh was expectin hoss?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.

I wasn't aware that people supposed to get red cards for what MIGHT have happened IF contact or IF the challenged was not properly timed.

If that was a legitimate red card then make football a non contact sport.
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 09, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on January 09, 2012, 11:12:05 AM
Good tactical move by Fergie starting Chris Foy instead of Howard Webb in the Manchester derby.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2012, 11:21:36 AM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 09, 2012, 11:27:45 AM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.

Have nothing to do with dislike.  Would you red card a keeper or call a foul if he lunges with a sliding tackle right above the 18 at the ball and a player evades what could have been a very disasterous foul?  And it cant deserve either, is one or the other.  What kinda stupid shit is that?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2012, 11:37:03 AM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.

Have nothing to do with dislike.  Would you red card a keeper or call a foul if he lunges with a sliding tackle right above the 18 at the ball and a player evades what could have been a very disasterous foul?  And it cant deserve either, is one or the other.  What kinda stupid shit is that?
In all honesty, if it was a both feet, studs up tackle...Yes i would call a foul, it's still a dangerous tackle, even if he got all ball, the point is, it would have been a dangerous tackle. Like I said, it would be atleast a yellow or red card. The ref would be in the right to produce which ever card he felt in this situation. A red card because of the rules...A yellow if he thought it was not as bad as it looked. just my opinion. As for Chris Foy's decision yesterday, I agree with it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 09, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Man United, Paying Refs since 1878.

 :applause: :applause: 

How de arse dat was a cardable offence far less a red one I eh know..... ::) ::) 

If Nani hadn't hurdled the tackle he would have taken his legs out along with getting the ball plus his tackle was two foot tackle which the refs are suppose to call. Drogba and Torres got sent off for the same type of two foot tackles. Players need tuh adjust and not give the ref the opportunity to make that call. Kompany is also a repeat offender.

I wasn't aware that people supposed to get red cards for what MIGHT have happened IF contact or IF the challenged was not properly timed.

If that was a legitimate red card then make football a non contact sport.
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Airman..

As i know the rules to be, a skate tackle foul from behind is outlawed and a two footed tackle foul is outlawed.. My thing is that the tackle wasn't even a foul because he clearly got to the ball first and made no contact with Nani. How can you justify a foul (and a red card) for a challenge where there is no contact with the player and the player doesn't even go to ground but continues playing? Or looking at it another way, if it had happened in the PK box, can you award a penalty for no contact?

And as an aside, regarding the issue of the two footed tackle... Seriously if you think about it, how is a defender supposed to skate tackle straight on without exposing some of the studs of at least one foot? If you look at the replay of Kompany's tackle, he intercepts the ball with the side of his right foot and his trailing left foot (which is not aimed at Nani) is showing studs.

I could understand if you feel that skate tackling head on is dangerous and should be outlawed, i could respect that opinion, but i see central defenders put in those tackles week after week and if the striker dive to ground is a yellow, if they get ketch with the studs or draw blood is a red. Kompany ain't even touch the man, so it wasn't a foul for me.

For me, the tackle was a good old fashioned piece of blade.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 09, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.

As much as you try to (appear to?) be impartial... the bolded shows that you letting your support for ManU bias your perspective.  People not necessarily defending the tackle as much as they criticizing the decision to issue a straight red.  You DO realize that it is possible to criticize both the tackle and the response to it... right?  For me this is no different than the Spearing tackle (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/liverpool-fc/2011/12/09/comment-jay-spearing-red-card-shows-why-premier-league-football-is-losing-its-appeal-55578-29922450/) on Fulham's Dembele a month ago.

http://www.youtube.com/v/igv7vM-Beik

Both at first blush look a lot worse than they actually were.  Pay close attention to Spearing's left foot... which can only be interpreted as the "offending" foot in the challenge.  Like Kompany's it had nothing at all to do with the tackle on the ball.  What is a player supposed to do with his trailing leg when in an instance like this, his momentum takes him into the other player... put it in his back pocket?

Refs can blow the whistle and even show a card for "intent"... but to try and justify that sending off so early in the game is kinda crazy.  Meanwhile, in that same game Giggs had a two-foot scissor tackle from behind on Aguero that didn't come near the ball... and didn't even merit a card, apparently.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 09, 2012, 12:29:47 PM
Scholes legacy in jeopardy
By Eurosport | Paul Parker – 5 hours ago
January 9, 2012

I was as surprised as anyone else to hear the news that Paul Scholes had come out of retirement and was back in the Manchester United squad for Sunday's FA Cup clash at Manchester City.

There had been reports on the media and talk among journalists about it happening, but I had dismissed it as a side effect of Thierry Henry's return to Arsenal. When a fresh story breaks, the press love to look for signs that something similar will happen elsewhere, and the reports of Scholes's return had the air of hope rather than expectation.

So it was a shock when the confirmation came through little more than an hour before kick-off. I never thought Alex Ferguson would go down that road. It was even more of a surprise to see him get on the pitch for half an hour, even considering United's two-goal lead and one-man advantage at the time.

United scored their three goals in the first half as a result of their high tempo, first on the counter attack and then as a result of Vincent Kompany's red card. When Scholes came on he did what comes naturally, retaining possession and slowing the pace down. As we have seen in their recent defeats to Blackburn and Newcastle, when this current United side plays at a low tempo they struggle.

You could not imagine the biggest clubs in Europe's other major leagues bringing back old stars who are well past their best, so it is quite remarkable that both Arsenal and United would do so. I worry that such moves risk damaging the credibility of the Premier League as a brand.

Scholes's return until the end of the season is bound to polarise opinion. It is certainly great for the player, who has stayed at the club even after retiring and has admitted repeatedly that he misses not being involved with the first team.

But I do wonder if the move is an ideal one for United, or at least if they should have even let it come to this at all. It is a shame that they did not invest in a proper replacement in the summer. Now they have been reduced to using one of the club's all-time greatest players as a stop-gap measure.

United were unlucky to lose Tom Cleverley to injury after he had such a good start to the campaign. But given that Ferguson knew about Darren Fletcher's ongoing health problems, relying on a young midfielder who only made his debut for the club this season risked leaving his squad exposed, and so it has proved.

Some people have said Scholes was already on his way out last season before his announced his retirement, but he still started more than half of United's league games. He was an important player in a very ordinary United side that won the title. The only better way for him to sign off would have been by winning the Champions League final.

When he announced he was quitting, the amount of column inches gushing forth praise for him was incredible, and deservedly so. His status as a talent unique to his generation was assured.

Now, with more credible title challengers in the form of City and Tottenham this season than there were last term, Scholes is putting his legacy in jeopardy. On Sunday, for example, it was his poor pass that led to City's second goal.

I just hope that United do not have to call upon Scholes's services too often between now and the end of the season, and that when they do he is able to at least able to avoid diluting the great memories we all have of him in his glorious prime.

- - -

Something that concerns me even more than United having to recall Scholes is the performance on Sunday of Rio Ferdinand.

Just as against Newcastle in the week, for my money Rio was the worst player on the pitch at the Etihad Stadium. The absence of Nemanja Vidic is being made all the more glaring.

It is not necessarily all his fault: he looks like a player carrying an injury. He is not performing at full tilt at the moment. It is clear that he is trying to play within his limitations in order to not make the situation worse.He is trying to avoid putting in the hard work when he needs to, but that means he is often stretching desperately to get himself out of trouble.

I recognise it in Rio because something similar happened to me in my last couple of seasons as a pro. I was scared of pushing myself too far because I didn't want to sustain an injury that would spell the end of my career, and that showed through in my performances.

I can see where Rio is coming from. With the European Championships coming up in the summer he is doing whatever it takes to avoid picking up an injury which, given his age and record with his fitness, could easily rule him out of the tournament.

However, in doing so he is performing well below his best, and risked losing his place in Fabio Capello's team anyway. It's a terrible situation to be in, and the end of the season feels like a long ay away for him at the moment.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/paul-parker/scholes-legacy-jeopardy-125550078.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 09, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
SIGH!! I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I can pull up past clips of similar tackles where players got red carded, but that would just add fuel to the fire, and I'm not up for a debate. I do like the response from dinho and Bakes to a point, but on the other hand I still think the tackle merited a card, which one? well that would be up to the ref, in this case, it was a red. I think the tackle did not look as bad because Nani hurdled it. Man City is going to appeal the decision, If denied, that would mean the FA also saw something wrong with the type of tackle that was made.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on January 09, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
I picked this up for youtube....the quality is not that good, but to be honest looking at it from the different angles I have different views

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gA6IQzVDrA

The clip is 35 sec
From 0:01-0:04 (real time), it looked like a great tackle
From 0:06-0:08 it looked good with the right leg...his left leg is blocked so you do not see that follow through
From 0:10 - 0:14 I think is the best view where you see the full effect with the left foot coming in with a lunge and its also the side that the ref was looking from. Only thing I could surmise is that ref saw the lunge and viewed intent, but from that view the tackle looked scary.

I guess you can watch it over and over and debate it. Interesting thing is that Nani did not complain (at least from the clip), it look like Rooney and Welbeck.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on January 09, 2012, 01:09:53 PM
Good tactical move by Fergie starting Chris Foy instead of Howard Webb in the Manchester derby.

Howard Webb says he will fight for his United place despite Chris Foy's stunning 1st half performance yesterday!  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 09, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
SIGH!! I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I can pull up past clips of similar tackles where players got red carded, but that would just add fuel to the fire, and I'm not up for a debate. I do like the response from dinho and Bakes to a point, but on the other hand I still think the tackle merited a card, which one? well that would be up to the ref, in this case, it was a red. I think the tackle did not look as bad because Nani hurdled it. Man City is going to appeal the decision, If denied, that would mean the FA also saw something wrong with the type of tackle that was made.

You have time yes. Next they will want to argue that United's shirt colour is not red.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 09, 2012, 06:49:14 PM
Good tactical move by Fergie starting Chris Foy instead of Howard Webb in the Manchester derby.

Howard Webb says he will fight for his United place despite Chris Foy's stunning 1st half performance yesterday!  ;D

Big Up!

 :violin:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: PantherX on January 09, 2012, 06:52:37 PM
I picked this up for youtube....the quality is not that good, but to be honest looking at it from the different angles I have different views

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gA6IQzVDrA

The clip is 35 sec
From 0:01-0:04 (real time), it looked like a great tackle
From 0:06-0:08 it looked good with the right leg...his left leg is blocked so you do not see that follow through
From 0:10 - 0:14 I think is the best view where you see the full effect with the left foot coming in with a lunge and its also the side that the ref was looking from. Only thing I could surmise is that ref saw the lunge and viewed intent, but from that view the tackle looked scary.

I guess you can watch it over and over and debate it. Interesting thing is that Nani did not complain (at least from the clip), it look like Rooney and Welbeck.
This is the first time I saw the tackle and I have to say that by the letter of the law it's clearly a red card offense as he left his feet and went in with both studs up, if he had actually made contact with (that) Nani no one would have questioned the decision.

The fact that there was no contact is irrelevant since the reason of the rule is to eliminate that kind of tackle from the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 09, 2012, 06:57:45 PM
If that had made contact, he would of ruined NANI's day right there
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on January 10, 2012, 06:50:38 AM
Safety first: Why Foy was within rights to show red
By Martin Hardy (The Independent)


Vincent Kompany's contentious sending-off in the Manchester derby on Sunday did not so much spoil the third-round FA Cup tie as define it. From there, in the 13th minute, Manchester United for a period resembled champions, before Manchester City found admirable resilience.

Unsurprisingly, City yesterday appealed against the red card that Chris Foy deemed Kompany's challenge merited. Those in the television studio were largely in agreement with Robert Mancini, who could barely bring himself to discuss the incident in the immediate aftermath of the game, such was his displeasure with it. Only when Sir Alex Ferguson unanimously backed the decision did the technical debate begin. "I think if he catches Nani then he [Nani] has got a problem," said Ferguson. "I've seen him do it before, he maybe got off in the past."

Kompany's tackle did not carry the malice that, say, Karl Henry's did at Wigan last season, when he slid in at full pace with both feet off the ground. His red card was instant, the decision was backed by Mick McCarthy and Henry, then Wolves captain, apologised. For that tackle, there was not even a suggestion of controlled aggression. With Kompany, it did not look like he was attempting to do anything other than win the ball.

However, the legitimacy of such a challenge is still defined by the rule book. Kompany was guilty of serious foul play. It is not enough any more to say simply that he won the ball.

These are the laws set down by Fifa. "Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

If, as Ferguson asserted, Nani had not subtly lifted his leg, then the tone of the argument could have changed dramatically. Nani could have missed the rest of the title run-in. The safety element of the player has become paramount, and that has been a deliberate policy led by the PFA.

It was at Manchester City last season that Nigel de Jong snapped Hatem Ben Arfa's leg in two places with his trailing leg, also in a sliding tackle. To the fury of Newcastle officials, De Jong was not sent off, nor did he suffer through retrospective evidence because Martin Atkinson, the referee on the day, had seen the incident. It would be curious to see what Foy would have made of such a tackle.

Rio Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney would be expected to back the sending-off of Kompany. "By the way, how can there be any debate about the red card yesterday??" tweeted Ferdinand. "You leave the ground with a two-footed tackle= red card, fact."

But Jason Roberts backing the official perhaps offered a centre forward's perspective on this. These are the kind of tackles that, when they go wrong, cause serious, career-threatening injuries. There are three key elements to an instant red card on the grounds of serious foul play. Kompany's challenge, although not apparently motivated by malice and which did see him win the ball, qualifies on each account. The force was excessive, a player's safety was endangered (Nani's) and, as it was a sliding tackle, thus a lunge.

Ultimately, it was not Foy's decision that defined such a crucial game and its outcome; that was down to a tightening of the rule book (led by the association that protects professional footballers) and Kompany's reckless challenge. As was seen in the dismissal of Nenad Milijas against Arsenal and the subsequent failure by Wolves to have the decision overturned, the rule book is tightening.

The huge irony here is that it will be former players who shout the loudest about the diminishing sight of players sliding into each other, yet it is for the safety of those playing the game now that the law is being strengthened and upheld.

The last word: what the rule book says

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct


Serious foul play: A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play.

A tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play unless there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send off the player guilty of serious foul play when the ball is next out of play.

A player who is guilty of serious foul play should be sent off and play is restarted with a direct free-kick from the position where the offence occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free-kick) or a penalty kick (if the offence occurred inside the offender's penalty area).

(http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article6287349.ece/ALTERNATES/w380/Pg-60-safetymain-afp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 10, 2012, 07:03:34 AM
So imagine this.

I drinking and liming. My blood alcohol level high. But I drive home. I could console myself and make it a habit by saying..."Well I eh hit nobody so is ok...even though according to the law it wrong."


It might seem over the top but I understand what Foy did. High octane derby game....dat kinda wileness start...den he would get flack for losing control. Giggs shoulda get something too..but again....de previous decision weigh on it...just like the first penalty shout and the red card weigh on the second penalty shout.

It easy for us with the benefit of replays and tv and everything else to make a decision after long rational unbiased views to say who was right or wrong. It much harder making a decision like that in front of 60000 people after you running about and expected to see everything.

Me personally...I woulda settle with a yellow. It was early in the game.....it woulda set the tone for the game....it not as critical as a red.....and players seeing any wileness would be clamped on. But everybody different.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 10, 2012, 07:42:16 AM
So imagine this.

I drinking and liming. My blood alcohol level high. But I drive home. I could console myself and make it a habit by saying..."Well I eh hit nobody so is ok...even though according to the law it wrong."


It might seem over the top but I understand what Foy did. High octane derby game....dat kinda wileness start...den he would get flack for losing control. Giggs shoulda get something too..but again....de previous decision weigh on it...just like the first penalty shout and the red card weigh on the second penalty shout.

It easy for us with the benefit of replays and tv and everything else to make a decision after long rational unbiased views to say who was right or wrong. It much harder making a decision like that in front of 60000 people after you running about and expected to see everything.

Me personally...I woulda settle with a yellow. It was early in the game.....it woulda set the tone for the game....it not as critical as a red.....and players seeing any wileness would be clamped on. But everybody different.

The tougher the decision, the more deliberation is called for... particularly given the cost to the penalized team.  But all that said, after reading what the law actually says, I could argue the issue of "excessive force", but Foy call it within the letter of the law.  The problem with such an approach is that there is no consistency from foul to foul, let alone from match to match.  There's no way you can tell me (as you concede) that Giggs didn't earn  himself with that two-footed take down from behind where he didn't even sniff the ball.  Another maddeningly inconsistent call is hand ball... it has to be "deliberate", but refs does be calling all kinda deflection and inadvertent tap as hand ball.  I didn't see the second half (I recorded the game, but after United went up three I ent bother watching de rest), but maybe that's why he didn't punish Jones.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on January 10, 2012, 08:02:17 AM
So imagine this.

I drinking and liming. My blood alcohol level high. But I drive home. I could console myself and make it a habit by saying..."Well I eh hit nobody so is ok...even though according to the law it wrong."


It might seem over the top but I understand what Foy did. High octane derby game....dat kinda wileness start...den he would get flack for losing control. Giggs shoulda get something too..but again....de previous decision weigh on it...just like the first penalty shout and the red card weigh on the second penalty shout.

It easy for us with the benefit of replays and tv and everything else to make a decision after long rational unbiased views to say who was right or wrong. It much harder making a decision like that in front of 60000 people after you running about and expected to see everything.

Me personally...I woulda settle with a yellow. It was early in the game.....it woulda set the tone for the game....it not as critical as a red.....and players seeing any wileness would be clamped on. But everybody different.

The tougher the decision, the more deliberation is called for... particularly given the cost to the penalized team.  But all that said, after reading what the law actually says, I could argue the issue of "excessive force", but Foy call it within the letter of the law.  The problem with such an approach is that there is no consistency from foul to foul, let alone from match to match.  There's no way you can tell me (as you concede) that Giggs didn't earn  himself with that two-footed take down from behind where he didn't even sniff the ball.  Another maddeningly inconsistent call is hand ball... it has to be "deliberate", but refs does be calling all kinda deflection and inadvertent tap as hand ball.  I didn't see the second half (I recorded the game, but after United went up three I ent bother watching de rest), but maybe that's why he didn't punish Jones.

That is the key point....consistency...fouls and hand balls continue to be the most inconsistent decisions
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 10, 2012, 08:34:03 AM
It was not a red card tackle...  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 10, 2012, 09:23:34 AM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.

Have nothing to do with dislike.  Would you red card a keeper or call a foul if he lunges with a sliding tackle right above the 18 at the ball and a player evades what could have been a very disasterous foul?  And it cant deserve either, is one or the other.  What kinda stupid shit is that?
In all honesty, if it was a both feet, studs up tackle...Yes i would call a foul, it's still a dangerous tackle, even if he got all ball, the point is, it would have been a dangerous tackle. Like I said, it would be atleast a yellow or red card. The ref would be in the right to produce which ever card he felt in this situation. A red card because of the rules...A yellow if he thought it was not as bad as it looked. just my opinion. As for Chris Foy's decision yesterday, I agree with it.

So what do you think about Giggs tackle?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 10, 2012, 09:24:38 AM
Beside all this how the FA can have a competition without the FA's team in the finals?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kev on January 10, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
Kompany appeal fails.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16492841.stm

This really comes from Wolves player, Lampard and now Kompany.

A Wolves player was sent off for a very similar (even less) of a tackle like Kompany a couple of weeks ago, he appealed and failed to most people's suprise.  Lampard did a worse tackle funnily enough against Wolves, he only gets a yellow, when most people thought under the rules it could / should of very easily been a red. There is and always has been 2 lots of rules for some clubs and others.  The FA having denied the Wolves appeal could never in a month of Sundays let the Man City one through.   The refs do have meetings and they would of all been told that Lampard should of walked, so anybody for the next couple of weeks was always going to be sent off. 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 10, 2012, 09:52:45 AM
So what do you think about Giggs tackle?

Nothing because the ref eh make nothing of it.  If is one thing I hate is de hypocrisy.  If man go argue it was a correct call then they should also be conceeding that they get away with bullshit as that Giggs tackle was even worse in that he straight kick down Aguero with a "lunging dangerous tackle"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 10, 2012, 10:09:26 AM
So what do you think about Giggs tackle?

Nothing because the ref eh make nothing of it.  If is one thing I hate is de hypocrisy.  If man go argue it was a correct call then they should also be conceeding that they get away with bullshit as that Giggs tackle was even worse in that he straight kick down Aguero with a "lunging dangerous tackle"

Oh gawd, nah... it wasn't that bad  ;D  But it was a nice two-footed item from behind  which didn't come any where near the ball, yet which was adjudged an "ordinary" foul.  I like Giggs but that tackle was typical of what we see from older players go tackle out of desperation when faced with a younger, quicker, trickier opponent.  Deserving of yellow, in the least... and the fact that it was two-footed and from behind... understandable had a red been shown.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on January 10, 2012, 10:37:43 AM
Good tactical move by Fergie starting Chris Foy instead of Howard Webb in the Manchester derby.

Howard Webb says he will fight for his United place despite Chris Foy's stunning 1st half performance yesterday!  ;D

Big Up!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 10, 2012, 06:44:41 PM
So let me get this straight, Kompany was suppose to take out Nani with the break foot tackle in order to get a red card? I have to disagree, that was a shit tackle, regardless if he got the ball or not, Nani did well to hurdle over the tackle, so it did not look as bad, but what if he did connect with both ball and the man's ankle? The ref made that decision based on the rules of the game when it comes to tackling, I saw no favoritism there.

Surprise surprise lol
Did I say something wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument, I asked a logical question. I understand alot of you don't like Man.United, but for all of you to defend that tackle is just ridiculous. I saw Evans make a tackle like that some time back, and I cursed that ass, he even got a red card for it. So I'm not siding with Man.United cause I support them, I'm doing it because it was not a proper tackle and it deserved either a yellow or red card, in this case, the ref gave a red, which it suppose to be, cause it was a dangerous tackle.

Have nothing to do with dislike.  Would you red card a keeper or call a foul if he lunges with a sliding tackle right above the 18 at the ball and a player evades what could have been a very disasterous foul?  And it cant deserve either, is one or the other.  What kinda stupid shit is that?
In all honesty, if it was a both feet, studs up tackle...Yes i would call a foul, it's still a dangerous tackle, even if he got all ball, the point is, it would have been a dangerous tackle. Like I said, it would be atleast a yellow or red card. The ref would be in the right to produce which ever card he felt in this situation. A red card because of the rules...A yellow if he thought it was not as bad as it looked. just my opinion. As for Chris Foy's decision yesterday, I agree with it.

So what do you think about Giggs tackle?
I saw that tackle, and I will not defend it. Giggs know better than that, he was lucky there!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 10, 2012, 06:46:28 PM
Kompany appeal fails.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16492841.stm

This really comes from Wolves player, Lampard and now Kompany.

A Wolves player was sent off for a very similar (even less) of a tackle like Kompany a couple of weeks ago, he appealed and failed to most people's suprise.  Lampard did a worse tackle funnily enough against Wolves, he only gets a yellow, when most people thought under the rules it could / should of very easily been a red. There is and always has been 2 lots of rules for some clubs and others.  The FA having denied the Wolves appeal could never in a month of Sundays let the Man City one through.   The refs do have meetings and they would of all been told that Lampard should of walked, so anybody for the next couple of weeks was always going to be sent off. 


I knew he would lose that appeal, if they had said otherwise then I would say the FA making up their own rules of the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2012, 07:05:46 PM
Well, I certainly never saw this one coming  ::)...

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The Liverpool defender won the ball with both feet off the floor, leaving the City manager aggrieved that the same letter-of-the-law interpretation that led Chris Foy to dismiss his captain on Sunday – and resulted in a four-game ban for Kompany – was not applied by Lee Mason.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/11/steven-gerrard-roberto-mancini-liverpool-city
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 11, 2012, 08:02:58 PM
Well, I certainly never saw this one coming  ::)...

Quote
The Liverpool defender won the ball with both feet off the floor, leaving the City manager aggrieved that the same letter-of-the-law interpretation that led Chris Foy to dismiss his captain on Sunday – and resulted in a four-game ban for Kompany – was not applied by Lee Mason.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/11/steven-gerrard-roberto-mancini-liverpool-city

Right. Dahs de root of the problem there..the inconsistency.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on January 12, 2012, 09:20:44 AM
Increasingly worrisome reports that Ravel Morrison and maybe Pogba might be on the way out  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on January 12, 2012, 02:30:02 PM
I think the inconsistency has less to do with the team involved and more to do with the player.

Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerard etc make that tackle and likely not even a consideration of a yellow card.

And is not now it happenin.  Alan Shearer used to get way with murder back in de day.

In Trinbago we call it "Gopaul luck eh Seepaul luck"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 12, 2012, 02:37:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BmQV5.gif)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
I have to agree that tackles like that need to be taken out the game.  The irony is that if Johnson had only offered his right leg and not allowed his left to swing thru, likely nobody would say anything.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 12, 2012, 02:58:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BmQV5.gif)

i saw that yesterday, i was amazed the ref aint even blow the whistle
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on January 12, 2012, 04:17:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BmQV5.gif)

i saw that yesterday, i was amazed the ref aint even blow the whistle

That was 10x more dangerous than the VK tackle! MHO!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2012, 07:40:41 AM
That was 10x more dangerous than the VK tackle! MHO!

Big Up!

Same tackle... no different.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 13, 2012, 11:16:27 AM
That was 10x more dangerous than the VK tackle! MHO!

Big Up!

Same tackle... no different.

Not at all, this dude was very wreckless. Look at that. Bias much.

Or and by the way, Ballotelli has been sent off for way less.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on January 13, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
no blood no foul...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2012, 11:31:43 AM
Not at all, this dude was very wreckless. Look at that. Bias much.

Or and by the way, Ballotelli has been sent off for way less.

Biased how... when I was defending Kompany and arguing that he should NOT have been sent off? 

Maybe you can point out how Johnson was "very wreckless" compared to Kompany?  Is it because Kompany open he leg to win the ball and Johnson kept his closed... or you have insight to each man's mental state at the time of the challenge?  Because physically I see no difference.


As for Balotelli being sent off for less... I could also mention Gerrard on Fletcher a year ago.  Not sure what your point about Balotelli is supposed to be.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 13, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BmQV5.gif)     (http://mirrorimg.net/im1/fc4.gif)

Examined side by side i'm really not sure how these can be seen to be the same tackle.

Johnson is fully airborne with both feet studs up into the challenge, and connects the ball with the underside of both boots.

Kompany wins the ball with the side of his right foot then studs are up on the follow through.

Might sound like splitting hairs, but Johnson tackle look more likely to break a foot imo.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2012, 01:30:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BmQV5.gif)     (http://mirrorimg.net/im1/fc4.gif)

Examined side by side i'm really not sure how these can be seen to be the same tackle.

Johnson is fully airborne with both feet studs up into the challenge, and connects the ball with the underside of both boots.

Kompany wins the ball with the side of his right foot then studs are up on the follow through.

Might sound like splitting hairs, but Johnson tackle look more likely to break a foot imo.



A distinction without a difference.  Kompany is also fully airborne with both feet studs up into the challenge... this much is evident from the first two angles shown in the .gif  The distinction is that Kompany connects with just his right foot and not both feet as arguably Johnson did.  I guess in turn I could nitpick and argue that Johnson angled his studs ground-wards and technically only made initial contact with one foot.... and that he wearing red and not sky blue  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 13, 2012, 01:42:41 PM
100% Barataria ent see nothing wrong with either of dem two tackles  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 14, 2012, 09:45:12 AM
Rooney = :banginghead:

Scholesy, wey tuh show him how tuh do it!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on January 14, 2012, 11:17:38 AM
Brilliant tackle by Kompany.  He was never out of control, used the side of the foot, and got to the ball first.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 16, 2012, 07:37:08 AM
For the life of me I can't understand why Giggs brother would want to go back there..


Rhodri Giggs: Cheating rat Ryan took all I had

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4062868/Rhodri-Giggs-Cheating-rat-Ryan-Giggs-took-all-I-had.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4062868/Rhodri-Giggs-Cheating-rat-Ryan-Giggs-took-all-I-had.html)

Worn ... Rhodri Giggs is still reeling from Ryan's affair with Natasha
Rhodri tells all of Ryan showdown

STAR has never said sorry – but callously insisted: “It was just sex, nothing more.”

By LEIGH HOLMWOOD, RICHARD WHITE and EMILY NASH

DEVASTATED Rhodri Giggs believes jealousy drove his soccer star brother Ryan to steal his wife Natasha.

Rhodri, 34, said she was the one thing he had that Ryan, 38, lacked.

The Man United ace had an eight-year affair with Natasha, 29.

Rhodri — still struggling to come to terms with the affair — is convinced the United wing legend just had to be competitive — even in love.

He said: "He took Natasha despite him having everything and me nothing. She was the only thing I had and he did not - so he took it."

Rhodri now cannot wait for his back-stabbing brother to retire from football - so he can watch his beloved Man United again.

He revealed he can no longer even bear to watch the Welsh wizard play on TV.

Rhodri was a regular at Old Trafford, where Ryan is the most highly decorated player in English football history and adored in the stands. But he has not been to the stadium since he found his brother had bedded curvy Natasha.

He told The Sun: "I used to look forward to matches.

"Now I look at the team sheet to see if he's playing. If he is, I don't watch. I can't wait for him to retire.

"Knowing someone who has been your hero for most of your life has been sleeping with your wife just hurts too much."

Rhodri recalled that Ryan was marked out as special from childhood because of his footballing ability.

He said: "When you watched him at 16, he was head and shoulders above everyone else. He was born to play football. I was very proud of him when he signed for Man United at 14."

Rhodri is a £400-a-week player-manager at semi-pro Salford City, while Ryan is on a massive £75,000 a week. But he believes Ryan's success at a young age made him think he could do as he pleased.

He said: "He had a company car at 17. Ryan thinks he's untouchable, most of those footballers do.

"He did this to me because he would get away with it."

Rhodri said when he confronted Ryan last year about his betrayal, he categorically denied it. He even asked to heal an earlier rift that had stopped them speaking.

Rhodri recalled: "He said to me, 'We need to be brothers again, we have never been the same since we became so competitive against each other'.

"That made me think, 'Are you jealous of me? I don't understand. Look at me compared to you. I think you won'."

Holding back tears, Rhodri said: "When we were kids we were inseparable.

"I looked up to Ryan and I still did until last year. But not any more."

Rhodri served a 4½-month sentence in 2001 for assaulting a Manchester City fan who was abusing him for being Ryan's brother.

Ryan never visited him inside. Then he presented him with a £25,000 motor on his release. Rhodri said: "I think it was guilt."

He said Ryan once gave him another car, a Toyota he won for being man of the match - but took it back after they had a fall-out.

Rhodri added: "He gives with one hand and takes with the other."

The brothers have not spoken since early July - four weeks after the affair was revealed.

The Sun revealed on Saturday that dad-of-two Ryan - still married to Stacey, 32 - has yet to apologise. Rhodri and Natasha are trying to rebuild their relationship for the sake of their two children.

And Rhodri said of Ryan: "He wants to be brothers again but wants me to do the sucking up - like everyone around him. He's selfish. Whatever suits him, he'll do."

NATASHA Giggs hopes to rescue her marriage to Rhodri, she said after being booted out of the Celebrity Big Brother house.

She is said to have spoken to Rhodri on the phone hours after her eviction on Friday.

After arriving back in Manchester yesterday, Natasha tweeted: "I love Rhodri and we r working very hard."

A minute later she wrote: "On a 'friendship' right now, that's as far as it goes... I don't know what will happen in the future. I am just glad we are on the right track."

On Saturday she posted: "Read The Sun today and love him sooooooooooooo much, believe what u read ."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 16, 2012, 09:38:08 AM
For the life of me I can't understand why Giggs brother would want to go back there..


Rhodri Giggs: Cheating rat Ryan took all I had

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4062868/Rhodri-Giggs-Cheating-rat-Ryan-Giggs-took-all-I-had.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4062868/Rhodri-Giggs-Cheating-rat-Ryan-Giggs-took-all-I-had.html)

Worn ... Rhodri Giggs is still reeling from Ryan's affair with Natasha
Rhodri tells all of Ryan showdown

STAR has never said sorry – but callously insisted: “It was just sex, nothing more.”

By LEIGH HOLMWOOD, RICHARD WHITE and EMILY NASH

DEVASTATED Rhodri Giggs believes jealousy drove his soccer star brother Ryan to steal his wife Natasha.

Rhodri, 34, said she was the one thing he had that Ryan, 38, lacked.

The Man United ace had an eight-year affair with Natasha, 29.

Rhodri — still struggling to come to terms with the affair — is convinced the United wing legend just had to be competitive — even in love.

He said: "He took Natasha despite him having everything and me nothing. She was the only thing I had and he did not - so he took it."

Rhodri now cannot wait for his back-stabbing brother to retire from football - so he can watch his beloved Man United again.

He revealed he can no longer even bear to watch the Welsh wizard play on TV.

Rhodri was a regular at Old Trafford, where Ryan is the most highly decorated player in English football history and adored in the stands. But he has not been to the stadium since he found his brother had bedded curvy Natasha.

He told The Sun: "I used to look forward to matches.

"Now I look at the team sheet to see if he's playing. If he is, I don't watch. I can't wait for him to retire.

"Knowing someone who has been your hero for most of your life has been sleeping with your wife just hurts too much."

Rhodri recalled that Ryan was marked out as special from childhood because of his footballing ability.

He said: "When you watched him at 16, he was head and shoulders above everyone else. He was born to play football. I was very proud of him when he signed for Man United at 14."

Rhodri is a £400-a-week player-manager at semi-pro Salford City, while Ryan is on a massive £75,000 a week. But he believes Ryan's success at a young age made him think he could do as he pleased.

He said: "He had a company car at 17. Ryan thinks he's untouchable, most of those footballers do.

"He did this to me because he would get away with it."

Rhodri said when he confronted Ryan last year about his betrayal, he categorically denied it. He even asked to heal an earlier rift that had stopped them speaking.

Rhodri recalled: "He said to me, 'We need to be brothers again, we have never been the same since we became so competitive against each other'.

"That made me think, 'Are you jealous of me? I don't understand. Look at me compared to you. I think you won'."

Holding back tears, Rhodri said: "When we were kids we were inseparable.

"I looked up to Ryan and I still did until last year. But not any more."

Rhodri served a 4½-month sentence in 2001 for assaulting a Manchester City fan who was abusing him for being Ryan's brother.

Ryan never visited him inside. Then he presented him with a £25,000 motor on his release. Rhodri said: "I think it was guilt."

He said Ryan once gave him another car, a Toyota he won for being man of the match - but took it back after they had a fall-out.

Rhodri added: "He gives with one hand and takes with the other."

The brothers have not spoken since early July - four weeks after the affair was revealed.

The Sun revealed on Saturday that dad-of-two Ryan - still married to Stacey, 32 - has yet to apologise. Rhodri and Natasha are trying to rebuild their relationship for the sake of their two children.

And Rhodri said of Ryan: "He wants to be brothers again but wants me to do the sucking up - like everyone around him. He's selfish. Whatever suits him, he'll do."

NATASHA Giggs hopes to rescue her marriage to Rhodri, she said after being booted out of the Celebrity Big Brother house.

She is said to have spoken to Rhodri on the phone hours after her eviction on Friday.

After arriving back in Manchester yesterday, Natasha tweeted: "I love Rhodri and we r working very hard."

A minute later she wrote: "On a 'friendship' right now, that's as far as it goes... I don't know what will happen in the future. I am just glad we are on the right track."

On Saturday she posted: "Read The Sun today and love him sooooooooooooo much, believe what u read ."


He probably getting paid and everything has a price.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2012, 10:02:02 AM
bump
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2012, 10:19:56 AM
Rafa makes better defensive decisions anyway. So hard luck dey Jones. I doh understand how they watch the same replays we do and they don't see what we saw. It was obvious he twisted his ankle from the replay shown.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2012, 10:40:28 AM
Vermalin good enough and smart enough to defend Valencia's right root. We need tuh attack Metersacker on the ground; the big slouth! Rooney control the ball and stop the play acting!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on January 22, 2012, 10:40:55 AM
100% Barataria ent see nothing wrong with either of dem two tackles  ::)

Ha ha, long time I eh come on de Utd thread, first one worst that the 2nd IMO, studs first, 2nd one would pass by me, as you know  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
Forking giggs  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
Nice cross from Giggs, and even better header from Valencia!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2012, 11:32:12 AM
fork u van pussy  :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
f**k yeh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
 :salute: job done
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2012, 11:59:43 AM
MOM-Valencia. Good win!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
Great sub by Assene....He took of the Ox to bring in Asshavin..HAHA

Did you all see Van Persie pull ah Torres in front of goal?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 22, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Fully Deserved... Great game by Smalling,Evans, Evra, Carrick, Nani and Valencia .. top stuff

Wenger is a real jackass.. the only man giving us problems and he takes him off at 1-1

thats the difference right there .. Champions vs Pretenders
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 24, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
Is Rooney Slipping? His performances of lately has been mediocre at best.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 24, 2012, 12:02:39 PM
Is Rooney Slipping? His performances of lately has been mediocre at best.

Lately? He has been inconsistent since his ankle injury in the CL against Milan. He loses the ball more times than not (killin plays), his passing has been poor no matter where he is playing on the field (killin plays) and he has been missing scoring chances, including penalties (killin plays). He also loses focus once a play goes against him or is not focus to start with. His disciplinary behavior has improved, I will give him that but in my opinion other parts of his game has regressed. For someone who wanted tuh get paid what he is getting paid he has been very average more times than not. Which has been my issue with him, yuh kick up a fuss tuh get yuh money but then yuh playing a pack of tootoo on the pitch after yuh get it or he can't rise tuh the occasion as in the CL loss against Basel.

And yes I am am a United fan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on January 24, 2012, 12:33:02 PM
Is Rooney Slipping? His performances of lately has been mediocre at best.

Lately? He has been inconsistent since his ankle injury in the CL against Milan. He loses the ball more times than not (killin plays), his passing has been poor no matter where he is playing on the field (killin plays) and he has been missing scoring chances, including penalties (killin plays). He also loses focus once a play goes against him or is not focus to start with. His disciplinary behavior has improved, I will give him that but in my opinion other parts of his game has regressed. For someone who wanted tuh get paid what he is getting paid he has been very average more times than not. Which has been my issue with him, yuh kick up a fuss tuh get yuh money but then yuh playing a pack of tootoo on the pitch after yuh get it or he can't rise tuh the occasion as in the CL loss against Basel.

And yes I am am a United fan.
I think Fergie efforts to use him as a trequartista (sort of) probably affecting his attitude. In the modern game with 3 man midfield being the fashion he probably doesn't like the work rate involved as much and wants to be more of a striker as he was in the past. Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 28, 2012, 07:10:00 AM
What d f**k wrong with DaGea  :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 28, 2012, 08:40:16 AM
Well, please let me be the first Liverpool fan on this board to congratulate Man Utd on a well played cup tie. I am glad that Liverpool won, but believed that United could just as easily have won.

Tough luck United fans.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on January 28, 2012, 08:43:43 AM
Game of mistakes...poor coverage by Evra.....nice goal from Kuyt....
So....Carling Cup....out
Champions League...out
FA Cup....out
Premier League...well, lets just say the way we playing now, it will take poor form form the rest of the top 5 for any chance of the title.
Europa League...Ajax....

Although this was a decent showing, too much inconsistency all season. A frustrating season. Realistically, they do not deserve a thing IMO.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 28, 2012, 08:47:38 AM
Well, please let me be the first Liverpool fan on this board to congratulate Man Utd on a well played cup tie. I am glad that Liverpool won, but believed that United could just as easily have won.

Tough luck United fans.

Man U enjoyed more of the possession, but they never got in behind the defense too much; it was possession in front of the defense.  De Gea's confidence is in shambles.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 28, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
A draw would have been fair In my opinion... would have taken a replay as Anfield is always tough

No breaks today, hit the post , ref wouldnt give us a foul for anything etc

Stupid goals.. first one was poor after a tactic from the Pool players to crowd out De Gea.. Fergie did shit by selecting the kid in this game.. they targeted the boy and it should have been Lindegaard in there... now his confidence is even poorer (if it was possible) well done Fergie

We missed Rooney badly today and Nani too.. any team would.. with Wazza, Nani, Young, Cleverley, Fletcher, Ando, Rio, Vidic, Jones all out injured it was always going to be tough

The FA got their wish..we are out .. City away in the 3rd round and Pool away in the 4th.. they can breathe now.. job done
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 28, 2012, 09:25:51 AM
(http://www.allpark.co.uk/user/products/large/25kg-bag-rock-salt.jpg)


..... Is allyuh portion this year.

NOTHING for Man U!!   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 28, 2012, 09:58:35 AM
(http://www.allpark.co.uk/user/products/large/25kg-bag-rock-salt.jpg)


..... Is allyuh portion this year.

NOTHING for Man U!!   :devil:

Ha,ha-hope yuh save this image for Chelski after they get knock out in the CL.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
I think Scholes should not have been taken off. He was a general in that midfield. We looked poor when he came off. De Gea was at fault for the first goal. Still like Evra, despite that shit he did for Kuyt to get in behind him to score.

Well done Liverpool. To the booboys who booed Evra, well you all could go f@$k off in a cesspit. Racist bastards. I would love to see their actions when they finally get a black player in their line up again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 28, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
yea Scholes and Carrick were having good games.. maybe he couldnt last the 90...  sad that we need to rely on a 37 year old and a 38 year old when players like Modric are out there

Anyway Stoke at OT on Tuesday and Chelsea away on Feb 5th... have to keep winning and hope City slip up.. potential banana skin vs Everton away on Tuesday for them

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 28, 2012, 11:06:29 AM
(http://www.allpark.co.uk/user/products/large/25kg-bag-rock-salt.jpg)


..... Is allyuh portion this year.

NOTHING for Man U!!   :devil:

 :rotfl:

Rock So with allyuh bag of Rock Salt Man U 

:rotfl: Nice one dinho

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 28, 2012, 12:33:28 PM
Well, please let me be the first Liverpool fan on this board to congratulate Man Utd on a well played cup tie. I am glad that Liverpool won, but believed that United could just as easily have won.

Tough luck United fans.
My ass... Kenny pick de wrong blasted team. Park goal was well taken and well deserved, but we struggled for ideas before the changes and despite DeGea being obviously rattled, we never again pressured him on corners. Game should have been more than 2-1, Valencia's effort notwithstanding.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
Why should it have been more than 2-1? It's not like Liverpool dominated and had alot of chances to score. Gerard thinks otherwise, and I fully agree with him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 28, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
I think Scholes should not have been taken off. He was a general in that midfield. We looked poor when he came off. De Gea was at fault for the first goal. Still like Evra, despite that shit he did for Kuyt to get in behind him to score.

Well done Liverpool. To the booboys who booed Evra, well you all could go f@$k off in a cesspit. Racist bastards. I would love to see their actions when they finally get a black player in their line up again.

classes , maybe they like having racist players ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2012, 03:56:09 PM
Hannover signs Diouf from Man.United

Hannover has signed Senegalese striker Mame Biram Diouf from Manchester United.

The Bundesliga club said the 24-year-old Diouf, who played for Manchester's reserve team, signed a 2 1/2 year deal and will train with the side on Monday.
''I'm glad we have an additional alternative for the attack in Mame Diouf,'' Hannover coach Mirko Slomka said. ''We have to focus on integrating him quickly.''
United signed Diouf for €4.5 million ($5.9 million) from Norwegian side Molde in 2009. German daily Bild says that Hannover will pay around €1.8 million ($2.4 million) for the forward.
Diouf made three first-team appearances for United this season, all in the League Cup. He had five Premier League appearances for United in 2009-10.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7461210/Diouf-heads-to-Hannover
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
I think Scholes should not have been taken off. He was a general in that midfield. We looked poor when he came off. De Gea was at fault for the first goal. Still like Evra, despite that shit he did for Kuyt to get in behind him to score.

Well done Liverpool. To the booboys who booed Evra, well you all could go f@$k off in a cesspit. Racist bastards. I would love to see their actions when they finally get a black player in their line up again.

classes , maybe they like having racist players ?
I kinda think that too  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
Police investigate Reds fan
Officers release still image of a man who may be able to assist in case


Merseyside Police are investigating an alleged racist gesture made by a Liverpool fan which was captured on TV footage during the FA Cup fourth-round tie with Manchester United at Anfield.

It was the first game between the rivals since the eight-match ban imposed on Liverpool striker Luis Suarez after the FA found him guilty of racially abusing Red Devils' captain Patrice Evra.

Following Liverpool's 2-1 win, it emerged that police were investigating the alleged racist gesture.

The image was distributed on social networking websites and a number of complaints were made to police.

Before the match the stadium announcer warned supporters that racist and homophobic behaviour would not be tolerated.

It is understood that home supporters found guilty of such offences inside the ground would be subject to life bans from the club.

Speaking after the game, match commander Chief Superintendent Jon Ward said: "I would like to thank the majority of fans for their behaviour and co-operation.

"We knew this would be a busy operation and most fans can be proud that they acted as ambassadors for their cities and their clubs.

"Despite the large numbers of supporters from both clubs and lively atmosphere, only 17 people were ejected from the ground and, at this time, two people arrested during the policing operation, all for low-level incidents.

"As a matter of course, Merseyside Police monitors Twitter, other social networks and match footage during high-profile events such as this match.

"We can confirm that specialist officers are reviewing match footage, as a result of a picture posted on Twitter. This matter is now under investigation by specialist hate crime detectives and we are working with Liverpool Football Club to identify the man in question.

"We take all forms of offensive behaviour seriously, and we will always thoroughly investigate such claims. We cannot allow this type of behaviour to affect the enjoyment of genuine fans.

"We will continue with our efforts to deal with the small number of individuals who commit offences at football matches, in particular, with the continued use of football-banning orders."

Officers have released a still image of a man who may be able to assist officers, in connection with the alleged racist gesture.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/13865/7462618/Police-investigate-Reds-fan

Maybe that was the booboys. I would be surprise if another black player would want to come play for that club anytime soon. Some of their fans are really giving that club a bad image.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 28, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
Well, please let me be the first Liverpool fan on this board to congratulate Man Utd on a well played cup tie. I am glad that Liverpool won, but believed that United could just as easily have won.

Tough luck United fans.
My ass... Kenny pick de wrong blasted team. Park goal was well taken and well deserved, but we struggled for ideas before the changes and despite DeGea being obviously rattled, we never again pressured him on corners. Game should have been more than 2-1, Valencia's effort notwithstanding.

Which is why I said what I said. Liverpool's attack actually looked quite toothless for most of the match and Liverpool's midfielders seemed to have trouble keeping possession. Tenorsaw is right about United's inability to get behind Liverpool's back four, but with United, it only really takes one chance to score...

Anyway, I am just defending my statement.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 28, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
Why should it have been more than 2-1? It's not like Liverpool dominated and had alot of chances to score. Gerard thinks otherwise, and I fully agree with him.

No, Liverpool did not dominate but if you look at what I said had Kenny picked the right team we would have.  United's defensive midfield was in shambles and with a more attacking formation we would have dominated against that team that was out there today.  Of course this is all speculative.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: BESBRAHN on January 28, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
To Small Mag I say Pool also hit d bar with Caroll header and Kuyt throwaway a sitter from the rebound. IMO a weakish Manure side put out today...Fergie cah hide form it, Manure need a creative mid...CL final against Barca las season made that clear. Scholesy is great but he is 37...wouldn't have the legs to play a 90 all the time. Scholesy played deep as well and Manu also had a prob playing one forward...Pool started with 3 centrebacks with Carra playing in front the 2 stoppers...both attacks were poor, only in the last 15 did both King Kenroy and Fergie go for the win.

Not a great game

Dinho I know yuh happy,lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 28, 2012, 09:50:18 PM
I think Scholes should not have been taken off. He was a general in that midfield. We looked poor when he came off. De Gea was at fault for the first goal. Still like Evra, despite that shit he did for Kuyt to get in behind him to score.

Well done Liverpool. To the booboys who booed Evra, well you all could go f@$k off in a cesspit. Racist bastards. I would love to see their actions when they finally get a black player in their line up again.

classes , maybe they like having racist players ?

Why is the booing classless? And who are the racist players?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 28, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Police investigate Reds fan
Officers release still image of a man who may be able to assist in case


Merseyside Police are investigating an alleged racist gesture made by a Liverpool fan which was captured on TV footage during the FA Cup fourth-round tie with Manchester United at Anfield.

It was the first game between the rivals since the eight-match ban imposed on Liverpool striker Luis Suarez after the FA found him guilty of racially abusing Red Devils' captain Patrice Evra.

Following Liverpool's 2-1 win, it emerged that police were investigating the alleged racist gesture.

The image was distributed on social networking websites and a number of complaints were made to police.

Before the match the stadium announcer warned supporters that racist and homophobic behaviour would not be tolerated.

It is understood that home supporters found guilty of such offences inside the ground would be subject to life bans from the club.

Speaking after the game, match commander Chief Superintendent Jon Ward said: "I would like to thank the majority of fans for their behaviour and co-operation.

"We knew this would be a busy operation and most fans can be proud that they acted as ambassadors for their cities and their clubs.

"Despite the large numbers of supporters from both clubs and lively atmosphere, only 17 people were ejected from the ground and, at this time, two people arrested during the policing operation, all for low-level incidents.

"As a matter of course, Merseyside Police monitors Twitter, other social networks and match footage during high-profile events such as this match.

"We can confirm that specialist officers are reviewing match footage, as a result of a picture posted on Twitter. This matter is now under investigation by specialist hate crime detectives and we are working with Liverpool Football Club to identify the man in question.

"We take all forms of offensive behaviour seriously, and we will always thoroughly investigate such claims. We cannot allow this type of behaviour to affect the enjoyment of genuine fans.

"We will continue with our efforts to deal with the small number of individuals who commit offences at football matches, in particular, with the continued use of football-banning orders."

Officers have released a still image of a man who may be able to assist officers, in connection with the alleged racist gesture.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/13865/7462618/Police-investigate-Reds-fan

Maybe that was the booboys. I would be surprise if another black player would want to come play for that club anytime soon. Some of their fans are really giving that club a bad image.

Yeah, 17 fans giving the club a bad image, like players really studying that when money and top level football being offered lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 28, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
Anyway, I am just defending my statement.

You don't have to, I was more responding to/disagreeing with what you said rather than arguing with you.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 29, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
I still beleive that De Gea will be great, next season after he has a year under his belt and  I believe he will go from stength to strength. My concern as always is midfield and who we bring in. For me that continues to be the weakess link. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 31, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
Alyuh see Valencia leave out Stoke Left Back like a small cone on the field  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 31, 2012, 03:56:27 PM
Going to the barber to getta Berba Mo-Hawk!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 31, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
Fergie send Ravel Morrison's arse tuh the Championship and he pardner Big Sam. Hopefully the young man gets his life on track and start putting the work to be a professional footballer. And Big Sam give him some tough love along the way. Ah wonder if there is a buy back clause. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 31, 2012, 07:12:21 PM
Ah see Cole managed to get himself sent off so he would not have tuh get embarrassed by Valencia again on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on January 31, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
I was hoping that Pogba would have shined today, that kid is the future of Manchester United!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 01, 2012, 12:49:00 AM
That was a genius move by Fergie to let Gibson go to Everton. ;D This is the only time I could say I like him haha. Good goal against those ManC
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on February 01, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
Alyuh see Valencia leave out Stoke Left Back like a small cone on the field  :rotfl:
Hear nah, dat was dred you know. Valencia buss a Medusa oui. De defender look at him and freeze
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2012, 12:47:25 PM
 :rotfl: Medusa for real  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 01, 2012, 12:53:40 PM
Alyuh see Valencia leave out Stoke Left Back like a small cone on the field  :rotfl:
Hear nah, dat was dred you know. Valencia buss a Medusa oui. De defender look at him and freeze

:rotfl: Medusa for real  :rotfl:

I going with conspiracy theories. For that whole game Stoke play like they was in a preseason scrimmage.   :-[
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 01, 2012, 02:01:56 PM
I was hoping that Pogba would have shined today, that kid is the future of Manchester United!

Pogba look good though, like de announcer say, he look like he belong out there (or words to de effect)...and ah don't really comment on KJ anymore eh but...in de first half when Pennant play de ball out wide for KJ and it went out of bounds, why wasn't KJ in position to receive de pass?

Late in de game when Pennant cross it and it bounce off KJ thigh, and we clearly saw Pennant motioning to KJ to head it instead, what was he trying to do? I looked at de replay several times-in slow motion and all-and seriously it woulda be harder to miss than score if he had put his head on dat cross...my boy needs to do something different cause clearly what he doing right now eh wukking.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 03, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
I would be surprise if another black player would want to come play for that club anytime soon. Some of their fans are really giving that club a bad image.

Just now it eh go have no club in England black players would want to play for... ent?

http://t.co/cg0hCMGG
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 03, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
I would be surprise if another black player would want to come play for that club anytime soon. Some of their fans are really giving that club a bad image.

Just now it eh go have no club in England black players would want to play for... ent?

http://t.co/cg0hCMGG
You couldn't wait for this to happen huh? lmao Don't worry,  they will still come to Man.U. We have black players on our team  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 03, 2012, 05:20:44 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 03, 2012, 07:21:41 PM
I would be surprise if another black player would want to come play for that club anytime soon. Some of their fans are really giving that club a bad image.

Just now it eh go have no club in England black players would want to play for... ent?

http://t.co/cg0hCMGG
You couldn't wait for this to happen huh? lmao Don't worry,  they will still come to Man.U. We have black players on our team  ;)

I couldn't "wait" for this to happen?  It really not that serious fella... I just highlighting fuh you how irrational yuh comment was.  If yuh doh see that then whey ah go tell yuh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 05, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
Hallmark of Champions

Fantastic game.. we were definitely the better team and deserved all 3 points but when you 3-0 down from 2 soft soft goals and 1 world class finish you really can enjoy the determination and the point gained with a 3-3 comeback at a difficult place... Could very well be the point that wins us the title in May.. and with Nani and Cleverley back from next week the squad looking nice

Great game
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 05, 2012, 12:09:51 PM
"Modern Day Classic"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
Gibson gone, why the F@*k Evans still here? Inconsistent cow!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 12:33:48 PM
Nice comeback, better than a loss. De Gea-will be great.

Some English people rell stupid and small mind oui. Why the hell dey booing Rio; because he speak out on behalf off his brother?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 05, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
Gibson gone, why the F@*k Evans still here? Inconsistent cow!!

Nah-I might have tuh rethink on him. He has settled down these past few games. Still need tuh work on the concentration but he have a few things tuh work with. Lets give him another year and see what he really turns out tuh be-still young. I would take him him defence versus one of our mids when our defense hurtin.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 05, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
They either mad that Terry lost the captaincy for the national team or it was Liverpool fans :devil: haha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on February 05, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Hallmark of Champions

Fantastic game.. we were definitely the better team and deserved all 3 points but when you 3-0 down from 2 soft soft goals and 1 world class finish you really can enjoy the determination and the point gained with a 3-3 comeback at a difficult place... Could very well be the point that wins us the title in May.. and with Nani and Cleverley back from next week the squad looking nice

Great game
Unfortunate in that they were off united players, but the first goal, Sturrage got past Evra way too easy and once he was that close, it was bound to be confusion. Hard luck on Evans. The third goal was a poor pick up on Luis in the first place. He was allowed too much room and by the time Ferdinand got too him, well, the deflection make the difference
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 06, 2012, 10:39:23 AM
Hallmark of Champions

Fantastic game.. we were definitely the better team and deserved all 3 points but when you 3-0 down from 2 soft soft goals and 1 world class finish you really can enjoy the determination and the point gained with a 3-3 comeback at a difficult place... Could very well be the point that wins us the title in May.. and with Nani and Cleverley back from next week the squad looking nice

Great game

Lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 06, 2012, 12:54:19 PM
Haters Gonna Hate

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TCopsr5CzuY/SDlaasWBthI/AAAAAAAAAFA/EhYPNF4YRMQ/s400/15E70066-0F63-0DF2-41A5DC89B83CAD0E.jpg)

Next time bring on Justin

(http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BIEBER.png)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2012, 01:18:21 PM


Next time bring on Justin

(http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BIEBER.png)


Nahhhhhhh  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: bahahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 06, 2012, 04:13:38 PM
For the haters:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426366_359383424086763_182211255137315_1321198_239384062_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on February 06, 2012, 05:33:32 PM
For the haters:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426366_359383424086763_182211255137315_1321198_239384062_n.jpg)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2012, 07:04:09 PM
For the haters:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426366_359383424086763_182211255137315_1321198_239384062_n.jpg)

WIN!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 11, 2012, 06:46:56 AM
Suarez is a C@*t!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 11, 2012, 07:10:12 AM
Racist c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 07:39:46 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on February 11, 2012, 07:44:26 AM
half time tunnel fight
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 11, 2012, 07:51:38 AM
Suarez is a C@*t!!

Reluctantly I have to agree.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 11, 2012, 08:14:34 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 08:36:03 AM
Suarez is a C@*t!!

...and "king kenny" would be an even bigger one if he continues to defend him especially the way he does. As much as he has painted himself into a corner in defending him, suarez' behaviour today is indefensible.....but he score so dalglish might snuggle up even more in that corner.  This is for all the liverpool fans that was finding it in their hearts to feel sorry fuh him when "all of England" was against him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 11, 2012, 08:41:08 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 11, 2012, 08:42:10 AM
Hahahaa evra celebrating in front suarez  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 08:42:55 AM
Suarez is a C@*t!!

...and "king kenny" would be an even bigger one if he continues to defend him especially the way he does. As much as he has painted himself into a corner in defending him, suarez' behaviour today is indefensible.....but he score so dalglish might snuggle up even more in that corner.  This is for all the liverpool fans that was finding it in their hearts to feel sorry fuh him when "all of England" was against him.

Dogleash is the biggest enabler!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 11, 2012, 08:43:10 AM
Fire bun Luis Suarez.   :flamethrower:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 08:44:43 AM
Good win-Liverpool look like sh!te!. It would have been nice tuh drop ah good kick on that buckteeth prick!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 08:46:02 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2012, 08:49:10 AM
We win and The Boy Rooney looking like a player again. Liverpool and Suarez could go fork themselves now.....  :chilling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 11, 2012, 08:50:58 AM
that was a good old fashioned heated affair

JUSTICE FOR EVRA

Come on Villa.. the next few moths are going to be very very interesting
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
that was a good old fashioned heated affair

JUSTICE FOR EVRA

Come on Villa.. the next few moths are going to be very very interesting

Nice goals by Rooney too.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
Would like to see more POGBA...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 08:55:48 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2012, 08:59:23 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

He tends to distances himself from him  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 11, 2012, 09:05:06 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 09:07:06 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

It's quite possible Giggs may not have seen or known what happened....he was probably busy shaking other players' hands. Steve McManaman and Ian "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America" Darke find they should do away with pre-game handshakes.  Whey espn does get these imps from boy?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 09:07:20 AM
The rest of the EPL lucky United giving City a run or else City would have been lappin the league already! Jah boy!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 09:10:16 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.

...then obviously you missed suarez' very public :bs: attempt of a defense of what he claimed he said and the context in which he claimed he meant it.  Yuh could take dat respect and go and keep dalglish company in he corner.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.

 :o-Not! I am not surprised you would take this stance Ryan. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2012, 09:12:51 AM
Eff this Suarez bull crap: Rooney looks like he's got his MOJO back!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 11, 2012, 09:14:15 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

It's quite possible Giggs may not have seen or known what happened....he was probably busy shaking other players' hands. Steve McManaman and Ian "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America" Darke find they should do away with pre-game handshakes.  Whey espn does get these imps from boy?

Is ESPN we talking about-that is their weekly contribution to the sport and their continued educating of the American audience. I don't hear any ESPN commentators calling for them to remove it from hockey where players have experienced discrimination.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on February 11, 2012, 09:35:31 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.

...then obviously you missed suarez' very public :bs: attempt of a defense of what he claimed he said and the context in which he claimed he meant it.  Yuh could take dat respect and go and keep dalglish company in he corner.

yep, i guess i missed it. If he had already admitted racism then obviously he is in the wrong, both then and today. I was under the impression that he is still maintaining that he did not racially abuse Evra.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 11, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.

...then obviously you missed suarez' very public :bs: attempt of a defense of what he claimed he said and the context in which he claimed he meant it.  Yuh could take dat respect and go and keep dalglish company in he corner.

yep, i guess i missed it. If he had already admitted racism then obviously he is in the wrong, both then and today. I was under the impression that he is still maintaining that he did not racially abuse Evra.

 Look, ah fix it fuh yuh.   ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 11, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
On another note.. Valencia is on fire, sweet first touch and he is just full of energy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 11, 2012, 10:29:46 AM
Luis Suarez is a disgrace, says Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16996567


Dalglish
"I never knew Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand," Dalglish said. "I wasn't there, I never saw it. It's contrary to what I've been told."

wtf coach  ??? is either he playing stupid or he just as dumb as suarez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 11, 2012, 10:33:08 AM
Don't blame ya Evra... Celebrate in front of racism!!

Well said!  (even though suarez is proving to be a bigger little asshole than he might be a racist)

I actually respect Suarez a bit more for not shaking his hand. To me it shows that he is still unwilling to accept that he racially abused Evra. If Suarez is sticking to his story that he didnt racially abuse him then he has every right to be vex with Evra and refuse to shake his hand. I have no idea who is lying in this incident but if someone wrongly accused me of something I wasn't gonna shake their hand, regardless of what the FA's judgement was.

 ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on February 11, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
Luis Suarez is a disgrace, says Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16996567


Dalglish
"I never knew Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand," Dalglish said. "I wasn't there, I never saw it. It's contrary to what I've been told."

wtf coach  ??? is either he playing stupid or he just as dumb as suarez


Daglish is clearly a racist, period
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on February 11, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
KKKenny
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 11, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
Luis Suarez is a disgrace, says Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16996567


Dalglish
"I never knew Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand," Dalglish said. "I wasn't there, I never saw it. It's contrary to what I've been told."

wtf coach  ??? is either he playing stupid or he just as dumb as suarez

I swear, I think this F@*ker racist too, with the way he defends Suarez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on February 11, 2012, 11:35:12 AM
Well deserved win for Man U - completely outplayed Liverpool..Suarez antics just made the loss even more sour - was disappointed by him. Yuh doh go in a next man home field and disrespect him like that... Evra right tuh wine up in his face after the game....Yuh serve yuh ban for racism, yuh can't be vex wid de man yuh abuse....Band yuh belly, shake hands and play yuh game...

On top o' dat yuh side play sh*t and loss...Karma is a mofo.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on February 11, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
KKKenny

This.
I used to admire Kenny D. as a player, but who knew he was such a tw@t?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 11, 2012, 02:31:10 PM
The 3 black players on ManU amd De Gea stood up for Evra and everyone else shook Suarez hand

http://www.youtube.com/v/PJwIXER1P7o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 14, 2012, 03:02:47 PM
I was speaking to one of my partners about this today and we both came to the conclusion that all the Man U players (not just the black ones) should've made a stand and not shake Suarez's hand after he refused to shake Evra's.

They would've demonstrated that there's no place in the game for this and they would've supported their team mate and captian.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 14, 2012, 03:19:01 PM
i was thinking the same thing too. Oh well , too late for that now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 14, 2012, 04:09:32 PM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

It's quite possible Giggs may not have seen or known what happened....he was probably busy shaking other players' hands. Steve McManaman and Ian "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America" Darke find they should do away with pre-game handshakes.  Whey espn does get these imps from boy?

Is ESPN we talking about-that is their weekly contribution to the sport and their continued educating of the American audience. I don't hear any ESPN commentators calling for them to remove it from hockey where players have experienced discrimination.
Because the handshake in hockey have nothing to do with racism and discrimination and besides allkinda big fight does happen in hockey and man does still shake hands after de game. So ah tink yuh should leave hockey outta dis.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2012, 04:14:04 PM
The 3 black players on ManU amd De Gea stood up for Evra and everyone else shook Suarez hand

http://www.youtube.com/v/PJwIXER1P7o

Ferdinand did not shake his hand and Welbeck kind of brush his hand.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 14, 2012, 04:20:52 PM
The 3 black players on ManU amd De Gea stood up for Evra and everyone else shook Suarez hand

http://www.youtube.com/v/PJwIXER1P7o

Ferdinand did not shake his hand and Welbeck kind of brush his hand.
If you look closely you'll notice that both Valencia and Welbeck pulled back their hands and refused the hand shake as well
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2012, 04:21:15 PM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

It's quite possible Giggs may not have seen or known what happened....he was probably busy shaking other players' hands. Steve McManaman and Ian "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America" Darke find they should do away with pre-game handshakes.  Whey espn does get these imps from boy?

Is ESPN we talking about-that is their weekly contribution to the sport and their continued educating of the American audience. I don't hear any ESPN commentators calling for them to remove it from hockey where players have experienced discrimination.
Because the handshake in hockey have nothing to do with racism and discrimination and besides allkinda big fight does happen in hockey and man does still shake hands after de game. So ah tink yuh should leave hockey outta dis.

Handshake in EPL has nothing to do with racism and discrimination either. Same as hockey it is about sportmanship which is why I used hockey as an example. Also racism and discrimination does happen in hockey but  I have never heard anyone saying scrap the handshake even when it involves players who have discriminated against each other.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
The 3 black players on ManU amd De Gea stood up for Evra and everyone else shook Suarez hand

http://www.youtube.com/v/PJwIXER1P7o

Ferdinand did not shake his hand and Welbeck kind of brush his hand.
If you look closely you'll notice that both Valencia and Welbeck pulled back their hands and refused the hand shake as well

Sorry, I just realized the point you were made from your earlier post. I agree that the rest of the United players should have blanked Suarez. I bet if Keane or Neville was the captain they would have discussed it with the team before hand sbout how to approach such a scenario.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 14, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
Yeah...not sure if Evra discussed with the team or not is I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I know they were at least aware as to what was going on same way Rio, Valencia and welbeck did.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 14, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Yeah...not sure if Evra discussed with the team or not is I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I know they were at least aware as to what was going on same way Rio, Valencia and welbeck did.

Quote
Evra had grabbed Suárez's arm to remonstrate but it was just as quickly pulled away again. Rio Ferdinand looked at Suárez with contempt. "I lost all respect for the guy," Ferdinand said later. "After seeing what he did, I decided I couldn't shake his hand." From Danny Welbeck, there was only the briefest touch of flesh on flesh. These players had agonised this week about whether they should conform and, in the end, they decided they had to do it because the alternative would be that they kept the racism issue going. "The referee didn't know what to do," Ferguson said. "It was a terrible start to the game, a terrible atmosphere it created."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/11/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez


btw... ah see yuh boys and dem ride out de Big E.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 14, 2012, 11:06:52 PM
Yeah...not sure if Evra discussed with the team or not is I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I know they were at least aware as to what was going on same way Rio, Valencia and welbeck did.

Quote
Evra had grabbed Suárez's arm to remonstrate but it was just as quickly pulled away again. Rio Ferdinand looked at Suárez with contempt. "I lost all respect for the guy," Ferdinand said later. "After seeing what he did, I decided I couldn't shake his hand." From Danny Welbeck, there was only the briefest touch of flesh on flesh. These players had agonised this week about whether they should conform and, in the end, they decided they had to do it because the alternative would be that they kept the racism issue going. "The referee didn't know what to do," Ferguson said. "It was a terrible start to the game, a terrible atmosphere it created."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/11/liverpool-kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez


btw... ah see yuh boys and dem ride out de Big E.


Thanks, din't know why Suarez didn't bury the hatchet and put this to bed, guess he has his own views on the matter.

Yea boy sad to see us leave the Big E but it's a business now and football calls the shots...esp with a football AD
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 15, 2012, 12:34:19 AM
Thanks, din't know why Suarez didn't bury the hatchet and put this to bed, guess he has his own views on the matter.

Yea boy sad to see us leave the Big E but it's a business now and football calls the shots...esp with a football AD

After ah read yuh post on de forum ah happen to stumble upon that while checking de Guardian site as I do regularly, so ah figure it would answer yuh question.


I kinda ambivalent, I hate to see the thing get weaken... but so it go, they join over money and leaving over money so...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 16, 2012, 10:00:15 AM
Big game today fellas!!!

Europa League.

Glory, glory!!  :salute:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on February 16, 2012, 10:01:43 AM
Big game today fellas!!!

Europa League.

Glory, glory!!  :salute:

 :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 16, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
If I was Evra teamates and see that I would have blanked him after he blanked Evra! Buckteeth prick!
Ferdinand blanked him after seeing what he did.

Ah see Welbeck half blank him too.

I KNOW I thought I did see that, too.

Ah think Giggsy forget he father black! :devil:

It's quite possible Giggs may not have seen or known what happened....he was probably busy shaking other players' hands. Steve McManaman and Ian "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America" Darke find they should do away with pre-game handshakes.  Whey espn does get these imps from boy?

Is ESPN we talking about-that is their weekly contribution to the sport and their continued educating of the American audience. I don't hear any ESPN commentators calling for them to remove it from hockey where players have experienced discrimination.
Because the handshake in hockey have nothing to do with racism and discrimination and besides allkinda big fight does happen in hockey and man does still shake hands after de game. So ah tink yuh should leave hockey outta dis.

Handshake in EPL has nothing to do with racism and discrimination either. Same as hockey it is about sportmanship which is why I used hockey as an example. Also racism and discrimination does happen in hockey but  I have never heard anyone saying scrap the handshake even when it involves players who have discriminated against each other.

They don't talk about it because at the end of the day the players still shake hands!! This is coming up in the EPL because of players refusing to shake hands over the issue and the atmosphere it creates going into the game. Also, the EPL handshake is something relatively recently created by whoever runs the league to show sportsmanship. In hockey the handshake comes at the end of the game and has been around so long that it is now ingrained and part of the culture of hockey to the point that I've seen games end in bench-clearing brawls and when de fight done men still shaking hands. So, I get the association yuh trying to make but I just don't think it's a valid one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
aye what time is we game , 2:30 or 3:30 TT time?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on February 16, 2012, 11:50:59 AM
aye what time is we game , 2:30 or 3:30 TT time?

 :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
 :frustrated: alyuh leave we thread nah  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 16, 2012, 12:03:55 PM
I sincerely hope allyuh could win this game and get past Ajax then get drawn against some team playing in the coldest part of Siberia like Metallist Kharkiv or something.

That would be perfect.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on February 16, 2012, 12:09:16 PM
 :rotfl:

Dinho yuh wicked.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
shit game start  :o http://myp2p.cm/football.php


http://myp2p.cm/myp2p-live.php?v=azsports1.blogspot.com%2F
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2012, 01:43:49 PM
2 nil so far 86 min  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on February 16, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
I sincerely hope allyuh could win this game and get past Ajax then get drawn against some team playing in the coldest part of Siberia like Metallist Kharkiv or something.

That would be perfect.

Winner of the tie playing the winner of Lokomotiv Moscow   and Athletico Bilbao i think.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on February 23, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
Wait nuh..

Today is Manchester Thursday and this thread all the way down on page 2 ??

Wha going on fellahs..

Glory, glory ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2012, 02:12:44 PM
I Still here  :devil:

Glory Glory :beermug: Hernandez score 3-0 aggregate  :devil:

Live feed
http://myp2p.cm/myp2p-live.php?v=farantv14.blogspot.com%2Fp%2Fch1.html
 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on February 23, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
Wait nuh..

Today is Manchester Thursday and this thread all the way down on page 2 ??

Wha going on fellahs..

Glory, glory ???

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2012, 03:51:12 PM
Lord stress   :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 23, 2012, 03:56:19 PM
like George Dubya Bush would have said "mission accomplished"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 23, 2012, 05:38:59 PM
De Gea will be the best keeper in the EPL in two years! Ajax played some nice ball today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
He pull off a point blank save today, he looking better d last few games
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2012, 08:57:55 AM
De Gea looking like a boss , he rel settle in nice these past few games
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 26, 2012, 09:20:52 AM
forking Giggs  :salute: .Never give up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 26, 2012, 09:24:49 AM
Game sah! De Gea-borse game!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
Meanwhile Tottenham is getting raped.

Wonderful goal from Young, i see he loves that shot
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 04, 2012, 11:43:45 AM
For the EPL title to reside in the blue half of Manchester, City is going to have win the league, Utd is not going to gift it to them.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 04, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
Well done fellas! De Gea-I look forward to watching him make the saves during the match! You know the he is going to be tested and the anticipation and when it happens and him making the saves when he is tested is enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on March 04, 2012, 12:53:52 PM
DeGea made some big saves.

On another note. Why can Defoe not get more respect? Talk about bong to score, its the same with England.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 04, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
DeGea has really proved the doubters wrong, he settled quicker than I expected.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 05, 2012, 08:44:13 AM
DeGea made some big saves.

On another note. Why can Defoe not get more respect? Talk about bong to score, its the same with England.

In England they partial against small, nimble strikers...Possibly because their game doesn't play to their strengths...Dey like their forwards big and powerful.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 05, 2012, 10:45:47 AM
For the EPL title to reside in the blue half of Manchester, City is going to have win the league, Utd is not going to gift it to them.

That was really profound. -____-
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 05, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
For the EPL title to reside in the blue half of Manchester, City is going to have win the league, Utd is not going to gift it to them.

That was really profound. -____-

Uhmmm, okay. Not sure what that was all about.

Nothing more to say about this really....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 05, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
For the EPL title to reside in the blue half of Manchester, City is going to have win the league, Utd is not going to gift it to them.

That was really profound. -____-

Uhmmm, okay. Not sure what that was all about.

Nothing more to say about this really....

I was teasing. ^_^
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 05, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
For the EPL title to reside in the blue half of Manchester, City is going to have win the league, Utd is not going to gift it to them.

That was really profound. -____-

Uhmmm, okay. Not sure what that was all about.

Nothing more to say about this really....

I was teasing. ^_^

Thanks for clearing that up. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
Lol look ting.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 07, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
I liked watching him play, but maybe this is ultimately a good thing...

Man United lose another young ace as Pogba signs Juventus deal... and agent pockets £1.7m

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html)

By Sportsmail Reporter

Last updated at 3:32 PM on 7th March 2012

Italian job: Pogba will join Juventus

Juventus have agreed a deal for Manchester United contract rebel Paul Pogba.

Sportsmail revealed last month that the Italians had outlined a four year contract for the 18-year-old that is expected to earn him a basic £20,000 a week.

His agent Mino Raiola, who represents Manchester City's Mario Balotelli, is also understood to have agreed a commission on the deal of around £1.7million.

The France Under 19 international was left out of United's reserve fixture with West Brom on Tuesday night and has not figured in the recent Premier League games despite travelling with the squad.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson has grown frustrated with the protracted negotiations and United will receive training compensation to be determined by FIFA.

Ferguson said he knew nothing of the intentions of Pogba.

'I can't tell you anything about it because I do not know,' said Ferguson.

Pogba follows another major talent - Ravel Morrison - out of the exit door. He signed for West Ham in the transfer window after the champions lost patience with his indiscipline.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 07, 2012, 05:30:54 PM
Apparently his agent is a real con man type .. My friend who supports Juve gave me some insight on him..  he getting a nice pay day by running Pogba off to Turin..  I must say I am upset he wont be staying but I find he and Morrisson have some cheek.. 18 years old, played a handful of meaningless games for the 1st team and demanding 1st team football and large weekly salaries...they can take their spoilt demanding ways elsewhere...Recently read Nev and Scholes' new books and the difference when they broke into the 1st team set up and how they had to remain patient and fight for their place and let the transition happen under the greatest man manager in the game at his pace which he has perfected giving youth the chance and easing them on... whereas these 2 cheeky bastards are not only demanding first team football but want salaries as big as a regular 1st team player... take your out of timing shit out of the club and players like Ryan Tunnicliffe Larnel Cole and Will Keane will do what they have to do and eventually be United regulars .. men prepared to do what they must and try as hard as ever...  True United players
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
Lol look ting.  :devil:

Dahis why we need more women posting.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 07, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
Mino Raiola is a superagent and all clubs have no choice in dealing with him because he has good players, an eye for talent and a lot of influence/negotiating skills. clubs bring him into negotiations even tho he may not be the agent of the particular player because he is that good. And all agents have a lil con in dem so you can imagine him. Juventus must have given guarantees that Pogba would get some first team football because serie a clubs dont relly handle youth that well (involving them in co-ownerships and loans and player + cash deals). Similar situation with the Ajax youth team captain Ouasim Buoy. Ajax was mad vex when he left them a couple months ago because he is regarded the best player in the youth academy/holland and they had outlined for him his path into the first team next season.

pogba and buoy would have room in the first team because my midfield has been shitting on themselves for a while now and i dont forsee  any heavy investment into that department in the summer. attack and defense is priority and the general manager noted that they looking to integrate more youth in the first team over the next few years.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 07, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
Mino Raiola is a superagent and all clubs have no choice in dealing with him because he has good players, an eye for talent and a lot of influence/negotiating skills. clubs bring him into negotiations even tho he may not be the agent of the particular player because he is that good. And all agents have a lil con in dem so you can imagine him. Juventus must have given guarantees that Pogba would get some first team football because serie a clubs dont relly handle youth that well (involving them in co-ownerships and loans and player + cash deals). Similar situation with the Ajax youth team captain Ouasim Buoy. Ajax was mad vex when he left them a couple months ago because he is regarded the best player in the youth academy/holland and they had outlined for him his path into the first team next season.

pogba and buoy would have room in the first team because my midfield has been shitting on themselves for a while now and i dont forsee  any heavy investment into that department in the summer. attack and defense is priority and the general manager noted that they looking to integrate more youth in the first team over the next few years.

Pogba in undeveloped. He is good, but not ready for prime time, just like Morrison. The key with these guys is that they have potential. The fact is, on the few occasions they were asked to step up, they  fell short. Even in the Reserve team they would be inconsistent (mostly good, but inconsistent). Morrison is not even making the bench for West Ham now.
Let's hope Juve knows what they are doing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 08, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
Good morning people..

Man U Thursday is upon us once again!!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
Beep Beep, game a few mins away  :beermug:

Scroll down till you see the Utd game , and click on it to see the live links
http://www.rojadirecta.me/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 02:28:03 PM
1 nil Rooney
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 02:29:07 PM
Bilbao looking good to score though. Pleasing on the eye so far.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 08, 2012, 02:32:10 PM
and they coulda have a penalty too  :D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 02:33:52 PM
EVERY PASS from Rooney going astray  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
Game is rel Pace!!!! , think our T&T players can play at that tempo and maintain it ?  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
EVERY PASS from Rooney going astray  >:(  >:(

He has been pullin stones all season and dem commentators making excuses for him. Leader of the sloppy and careless play all season. He lucky he scoring some goals!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 08, 2012, 03:04:25 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:13:10 PM
I stepped away to a small meeting... who scored?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:13:53 PM
Jeez... Llorente!
DDG saving our arse.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 03:29:37 PM
Ok, DeGea is Officially a Boss !
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 08, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
That was offside, but United have been living dangerously whole game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:36:49 PM
That was offside, but United have been living dangerously outclassed whole game.

Fixed it for you....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
sigh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 08, 2012, 03:40:29 PM
WDMC  :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
If Ferguson doesn't see the need to strengthen in midfield especially for European and knockout  combat well...  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 08, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
Hell of a save, hell of an effort to get there, hell of a goal.

Hard luck dey United.

Raphael fall asleep there.  :yellowcard:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:51:20 PM
Nah nah nah Rafael...  :bs:  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 08, 2012, 03:51:54 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
oh dear we are f**ked now  :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 08, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Of course, Man U gets the obligatory penalty call.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
come on reds , play till the end !!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 08, 2012, 03:54:30 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 08, 2012, 03:55:27 PM
Ah feel dat Ref trying to make up for that goal that scored after he blew the whistle for Evra no shoes play!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 03:56:32 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

Doh worry we go tear dem a new ass next week
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 03:56:59 PM
Sign Muniain... In fact sign the whole Athletic midfield.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 08, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
Like ManU really don't want to be outdone by City this season. They following them where ever they go!  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on March 08, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

"Athletico come from the notoriously uncompetitive Spanish league, but even if they are playing like a lower-level High-speed Barcelona clone, they're looking every part the equal of the premiership's second best team," thunders Ben Dunn. "The lesser teams in the premiership clone passion and aggression and couldn't live with this side."

yuh mighta see that already toppa... ah know yuh does read meh papers
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Jah Gol on March 08, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

Doh worry we go tear dem a new ass next week
Just like allyuh do this week ent ?A lil perspective for you, Barca had to fight to draw with them in the San Mames.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 08, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
Ah feel dat Ref trying to make up for that goal that scored after he blew the whistle for Evra no shoes play!

Big Up!

ref fault for bilbao third gol?come na man...

la liga is not as much shit as epl...players more technical
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 08, 2012, 04:03:37 PM
Ah feel dat Ref trying to make up for that goal that scored after he blew the whistle for Evra no shoes play!

Big Up!

ref fault for bilbao third gol?come na man...

la liga is not as much shit as epl...players more technical

Ah did not say it was his fault, he was jus feeling ah how that a goal came from it!  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 08, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

"Athletico come from the notoriously uncompetitive Spanish league, but even if they are playing like a lower-level High-speed Barcelona clone, they're looking every part the equal of the premiership's second best team," thunders Ben Dunn. "The lesser teams in the premiership clone passion and aggression and couldn't live with this side."

yuh mighta see that already toppa... ah know yuh does read meh papers

:D

"That was a bona fide thriller. Bilbao put on a performance that has seldom been equalled by an away team at Old Trafford, blowing the hosts apart. Only repeated saves by De Gea and United's characteristic refusal to buckle prevented this tie from being over. It sets up a mouth-watering return leg. On today's evidence, anyone hoping for an all-Manchester Europa League final is going to be disappointed. And anyone who thinks the Premier League is the best in the world is wrong. And anyone who thinks the Europa League is a rubbish tournament is also wrong. So there."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 08, 2012, 04:04:59 PM
their play last season different than this one...is bielsa (a man who used to play 3-3-3-1 wit a chile side that was givin conmebol rel pace)...have them playin this way...they used to play more direct seasons past...hope they keep martinez and munain at least one more season..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 08, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

"Athletico come from the notoriously uncompetitive Spanish league, but even if they are playing like a lower-level High-speed Barcelona clone, they're looking every part the equal of the premiership's second best team," thunders Ben Dunn. "The lesser teams in the premiership clone passion and aggression and couldn't live with this side."

yuh mighta see that already toppa... ah know yuh does read meh papers

:D

"That was a bona fide thriller. Bilbao put on a performance that has seldom been equalled by an away team at Old Trafford, blowing the hosts apart. Only repeated saves by De Gea and United's characteristic refusal to buckle prevented this tie from being over. It sets up a mouth-watering return leg. On today's evidence, anyone hoping for an all-Manchester Europa League final is going to be disappointed. And anyone who thinks the Premier League is the best in the world is wrong. And anyone who thinks the Europa League is a rubbish tournament is also wrong. So there."

once europa shave down from the million teams initially to me its more excitement than ucl
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 08, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
So much for La Liga being a shit league... :heehee:

Doh worry we go tear dem a new ass next week
Just like allyuh do this week ent ?A lil perspective for you, Barca had to fight to draw with them in the San Mames.

Dont underestimate the Fergie  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on March 08, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
serious question..when was the last time Man U won a European game at home?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
serious question..when was the last time Man U won a European game at home?

The lost against Ajax last week was the first time United lost at home in Europe in almost double figure years. United was impenetrable at Old Trafford until the loss last week and tonite.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 04:49:13 PM
I just going tuh watch the taped game tuh watch meh boy make he saves! United like I have said before against quality midfields will struggle. Plus men just not bearing down in matches tuh make a good pass. Tonite was just an example of all the ills that has led to us losing in the CL, we can get away with that most weeks in the EPL but in Europe we getting punished! Rooney will always be second rated as a footballer, just so careless with his passes and possession for a so call world class footballer!

Athletic Bilbao put on a clinic!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on March 08, 2012, 05:10:43 PM
giggsy i asked when last they won..not last time they lost..
I just feel like they haven't won a euro game at home for a while.
So would still appreciate the right answer. I know allyuh sour right now but is a serious question
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 08, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Lemme go and look for some highlights dey...

Steups.. I'm so gonna miss Manchester Thursdays.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 08, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
what i was saying before, bielsa revolutionised their playing style

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Athletic Bilbao's Bielsa – obsessive and dangerous for United's chances
The Argentinian is called El Loco for his attention to detail but he has built the most exciting Athletic Bilbao team for decades

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Marcelo Bielsa, a former Argentina and Chile coach, has taken Athletic Bilbao into the Copa del Rey final in his first season in charge. Photograph: Ivan Alvarado/Reuters
The exchange was eloquent, a treatise on image and reality, the two faces of Marcelo Bielsa. It was played out at Estadio el Madrigal where Villarreal had just drawn 2-2 with Athletic Bilbao. Athletic's coach was addressing the media in his normal way – voice low, gaze lower – when he was asked about his odd touchline behaviour. Was it coincidence that after every Villarreal attack, he got up from his haunches and paced to the other side of his technical area, taking exactly 13 steps?

Bielsa did not look at his questioner. He never does. Staring down, he spoke in his usual slow monotone. "What is coincidence," he replied, "is that when there's such a nice game going on, someone spends time counting my paces."

They call the Argentinian El Loco and maybe they look too hard for madness. The way Athletic are playing, watching him not his team is absurd, yet it is hard not to be drawn to him. Bielsa is unusual, there is something addictive about his actions. Besides, person and professional are inseparable. The question is: is he really as mad as he is portrayed? "No," says the forward Iker Muniaín. "He is madder."

Bielsa arrived last summer and Athletic's players still have not completely worked him out. They have never seen anything like him and do not think they ever will. He is disconcerting, praising awful performances and bemoaning brilliant ones. Above all, he is intense. Compulsive. Obsessive. Mad. "He lives for football," the striker Fernando Llorente says. There are days, adds teh midfielder Javi Martínez, when he does not leave the Lezama training ground until the small hours. It is, he says, "insane".

When he arrived, Bielsa had watched their 38 league games last season, writing all the details on colour-coded spreadsheets. And that really is all the details – he says: "There are 36 different forms of communicating through a pass." He watches thousands of games, building a footballing taxonomy, like some kind of botanist. If a player does something new, he labels and stores it, learning from it. Teaching from it, too. Few are so didactic: he once drew on his shoes to show players exactly which part of their foot to use, wearing them for days after. Video sessions can last five hours and players joke that they do not dare make a mistake lest the green laser rest upon them and Bielsa demand a convincing explanation.

Training is intense, even when Bielsa takes children from the crowd and gets them to deliver instructions for him. Stopwatch in hand, he preaches high pressure, constantly interrupting and demonstrating. Gangs of players sprint from pole to pole, hunting as a coordinated pack, their errors revealed to them on a laptop. There is an almost childish wonder about Pep Guardiola's description of Athletic: "They all run up … and they all run down again. Up, down, up, down, up, down. They're fascinating."

All endeavour, no aesthetics? No. Bielsa, a former Argentina and Chile manager, has altered Athletic's historic identity as the most "English" of teams, teaching them in the words of one insider "not to be afraid of the ball any more". They have scored almost twice as many headers as any other team in Spain but where the ball used to be thumped into the area at the first opportunity, it is now being worked up the pitch. Only Madrid and Barcelona have completed more passes or scored more goals. "The style is totally different," says the defender Andoni Iraola; Llorente does the "opposite" of what he did before.

Synchronisation is fundamental, attacks automatic, movement mechanised, the pitch partitioned with tape, moves constructed and deconstructed piece by piece, passes made instantly. The circulation is constant. One exercise involves eight squares: two players cannot occupy the same space; if a team-mate enters your square, you vacate it. Crossing and shooting exercises, following specific, interchanging "passageways", do not end with the shot but with players sprinting back into their starting positions. Defence and attack are not separate.

"A man with new ideas is mad until he succeeds," Bielsa notes. Athletic did not win in their first five games as they struggled to assimilate new ideas; since then, they have lost only three of 21 and are one point from the Champions League places, their best finish for 13 years on the cards.

They are in the Copa del Rey final, seeking a first trophy in 28 years, and supporters are enjoying their football like never before. The sparkle in the eye of players, the sheer number of fans travelling to England – Old Trafford's highest ever away contingent – reveals what facing Manchester United means.

A few weeks ago, Bielsa was stopped by a group of kids who asked him to sign their sticker album. He said no, he had a better idea. He took the album off them and told them to meet him the following day, same place, same time. When he turned up 24 hours later, the entire team had signed the album. Not just any team: El Loco's team, the most exciting Athletic have had in three decades.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 08, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
It is scary how far we are being left behind in Europe..Adapt or Die and we are in the emergency room bleeding...Tactical Variation and players with alot of Technical abilty are the new trend needed in Europe..no longer can a tired United 4-4-2 be depended on in games where adapted teams using newschool tactics with pace in their passing and alot of movement off the ball will dominate the game and create countless chances be it at OT or at their respective home...We saw it with Benfica and today with Bilbao who were absolutely brilliant. They have adopted the Barca formation and to me have become the closest team to their style in terms of quick passing, movement all with technical players 1 through 11 and when they lose the ball win it back.. switch to United and we run the same old system and with some slow, technically inferior players and a team with no sharpness, intensity and invention especially from the midfield we will be exposed against teams like we did today...Where do we expect a player like the current Park to take us in Europe? he cant keep the ball, he offers f**k all going forward and his technique is horrid..Valencia for all his pace and other attributes has 1 foot and If you stop his channels then what? See Barca United 2011 final for proof ... Or Hernandez and Anderson with their great attitudes but poor ability, especially Chico.. Of the 4 i named I would like to see Park and Anderson exit the club and I would like United to not only invest in technically gifted players but also an up to date coach to come in there and shake that training center to the ground with his new forward vision and innovative tactical ways.. An oldschool English get stuck in , die for the shirt assistant coach can only take you as far as we have come in Europe...Let Fergie do what he does best and manage the situations but he needs help badly with coaching to take us forward on the Euro scene, we will always be a force in England due to our know how, experience and marathon styled theme where we can afford to slip up a few times.. In Europe its Adapt or Die, someone call the doctor
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 08, 2012, 05:41:16 PM
that was a nice piece there mukum

The man is a madman but I'm wishing United could find a coach like him to partner up with Fergie.. just a man with attention to detail... Phelan is an oldschool run till you bleed type... not whats needed for Europe nowadays..  you need scientists in the dugout now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 07:06:03 PM
giggsy i asked when last they won..not last time they lost..
I just feel like they haven't won a euro game at home for a while.
So would still appreciate the right answer. I know allyuh sour right now but is a serious question

I wasn't trying tuh mess with you. To answer your question-11/02/11 against Otelul Galati-CL. After that we played two more matches at home Benfica 11/22/11 a 2-2 draw CL and the Ajax last week for Europa.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 07:10:32 PM
It is scary how far we are being left behind in Europe..Adapt or Die and we are in the emergency room bleeding...Tactical Variation and players with alot of Technical abilty are the new trend needed in Europe..no longer can a tired United 4-4-2 be depended on in games where adapted teams using newschool tactics with pace in their passing and alot of movement off the ball will dominate the game and create countless chances be it at OT or at their respective home...We saw it with Benfica and today with Bilbao who were absolutely brilliant. They have adopted the Barca formation and to me have become the closest team to their style in terms of quick passing, movement all with technical players 1 through 11 and when they lose the ball win it back.. switch to United and we run the same old system and with some slow, technically inferior players and a team with no sharpness, intensity and invention especially from the midfield we will be exposed against teams like we did today...Where do we expect a player like the current Park to take us in Europe? he cant keep the ball, he offers f**k all going forward and his technique is horrid..Valencia for all his pace and other attributes has 1 foot and If you stop his channels then what? See Barca United 2011 final for proof ... Or Hernandez and Anderson with their great attitudes but poor ability, especially Chico.. Of the 4 i named I would like to see Park and Anderson exit the club and I would like United to not only invest in technically gifted players but also an up to date coach to come in there and shake that training center to the ground with his new forward vision and innovative tactical ways.. An oldschool English get stuck in , die for the shirt assistant coach can only take you as far as we have come in Europe...Let Fergie do what he does best and manage the situations but he needs help badly with coaching to take us forward on the Euro scene, we will always be a force in England due to our know how, experience and marathon styled theme where we can afford to slip up a few times.. In Europe its Adapt or Die, someone call the doctor

So what about Rooney? What you think about his quality of play this year; goals aside?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 08, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
I think he's been very good... the only person that seems to have a problem with his season is you judging from your posts about him

I do agree with your comments about him giving the ball away and thats because he tries some audacious through balls when he should be keeping it simple in some areas but all in all he i having a fantastic season by scoring (primarily his job) assists, and being heavily involved in majority of the games he's played.. and there is still more to come from Wazza
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 08, 2012, 07:58:56 PM
that was a nice piece there mukum

The man is a madman but I'm wishing United could find a coach like him to partner up with Fergie.. just a man with attention to detail... Phelan is an oldschool run till you bleed type... not whats needed for Europe nowadays..  you need scientists in the dugout now

Smalls..would you be opposed to Fergie riding off into the sunset next season and having Mourinho take over?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 08, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
I think he's been very good... the only person that seems to have a problem with his season is you judging from your posts about him

I do agree with your comments about him giving the ball away and thats because he tries some audacious through balls when he should be keeping it simple in some areas but all in all he i having a fantastic season by scoring (primarily his job) assists, and being heavily involved in majority of the games he's played.. and there is still more to come from Wazza

 :o-Not! Last time I checked maintaining possession is also part of a footballer's responsibilty. Rooney has been very careless with the ball all season either giving it away by forcing passes, miscontrolling or letting players strip him because he is not aware of where the opposing player is so he dribbles/turns into the tackle. Great he has scored goals but he has also killed many attacks with his careless ways with the ball. We can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 08, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
FF you will appreciate this one from the Telegraph

"La Liga vs the Premier League: Mind the gap!!"


hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on March 08, 2012, 09:34:23 PM
I think he's been very good... the only person that seems to have a problem with his season is you judging from your posts about him

I do agree with your comments about him giving the ball away and thats because he tries some audacious through balls when he should be keeping it simple in some areas but all in all he i having a fantastic season by scoring (primarily his job) assists, and being heavily involved in majority of the games he's played.. and there is still more to come from Wazza

 :o-Not! Last time I checked maintaining possession is also part of a footballer's responsibilty. Rooney has been very careless with the ball all season either giving it away by forcing passes, miscontrolling or letting players strip him because he is not aware of where the opposing player is so he dribbles/turns into the tackle. Great he has scored goals but he has also killed many attacks with his careless ways with the ball. We can agree to disagree.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on March 08, 2012, 10:09:18 PM
Just a question here....with the free kick that was awarded to Atleteco when Evra lost his shoe...is that a rule...???? I have never seen a call like that before and was not sure of the football laws surrounding that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on March 08, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
top stuff SM
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 09, 2012, 07:13:30 AM
Just a question here....with the free kick that was awarded to Atleteco when Evra lost his shoe...is that a rule...???? I have never seen a call like that before and was not sure of the football laws surrounding that.

Apparently there is. I was not aware either that a player could be penalized either for playing the ball if he didn't have one of his tugs on. Come to think of it I don't think I have seen a player attempt to play the ball with only one tugs on. I have seen a player lose a tug while dribbling and carry on ref didn't stop play. Wouldn't that be considered dangerous play since a tackle could be made and the player is vulnerable because his foot is exposed? Don't know how the refs interpret whatever the rule is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on March 09, 2012, 04:29:48 PM
It is scary how far we are being left behind in Europe..Adapt or Die and we are in the emergency room bleeding...Tactical Variation and players with alot of Technical abilty are the new trend needed in Europe..no longer can a tired United 4-4-2 be depended on in games where adapted teams using newschool tactics with pace in their passing and alot of movement off the ball will dominate the game and create countless chances be it at OT or at their respective home...We saw it with Benfica and today with Bilbao who were absolutely brilliant. They have adopted the Barca formation and to me have become the closest team to their style in terms of quick passing, movement all with technical players 1 through 11 and when they lose the ball win it back.. switch to United and we run the same old system and with some slow, technically inferior players and a team with no sharpness, intensity and invention especially from the midfield we will be exposed against teams like we did today...Where do we expect a player like the current Park to take us in Europe? he cant keep the ball, he offers f**k all going forward and his technique is horrid..Valencia for all his pace and other attributes has 1 foot and If you stop his channels then what? See Barca United 2011 final for proof ... Or Hernandez and Anderson with their great attitudes but poor ability, especially Chico.. Of the 4 i named I would like to see Park and Anderson exit the club and I would like United to not only invest in technically gifted players but also an up to date coach to come in there and shake that training center to the ground with his new forward vision and innovative tactical ways.. An oldschool English get stuck in , die for the shirt assistant coach can only take you as far as we have come in Europe...Let Fergie do what he does best and manage the situations but he needs help badly with coaching to take us forward on the Euro scene, we will always be a force in England due to our know how, experience and marathon styled theme where we can afford to slip up a few times.. In Europe its Adapt or Die, someone call the doctor

Need some fresh blood and some dynamic ideas.  At the beginning of the season they looked like they were up for it, but they slowly sunk back into the basic Man U approach - which when flowing and added to individual talent is enough beat anybody, but in the current state with the current crop lacks a bit of cutting edge. 

Bilbao played like every Bielsa team - high up the pitch, press the ball in numbers, move it quickly when you have it, with the midfield shape continuously changing.  Barca re-popularized this type of game in the modern era and murdered everybody - no one was ready for it, but top teams are slowly catching back on (relatively)....but other teams have played it before...Milan did it way back in the 90's, Argentina under Bielsa and Basile did it in the early to mid 00's, Chile under Bielsa did it, Porto played some variation of it as well last season...Even Madrid is employing the high press from time to time now, to great success.

Football is always changing, some teams either adapt late or miss the  boat altogether.  What I realize too is the EPL revolution of high intensity 100 miles an hour football that we saw in the 04/05 era is becoming less and less of a competitive advantage - pretty much non-existent now....teams all over Europe are dealing with that physicality and speed... and as such the lack of technical quality as you say is starting to show...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 11, 2012, 08:10:16 AM
If allyuh lose to West Brom, Is Sir Alex getting the sack?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2012, 09:25:35 AM
If allyuh lose to West Brom, Is Sir Alex getting the sack?

 :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2012, 09:32:10 AM
I liked watching him play, but maybe this is ultimately a good thing...

Man United lose another young ace as Pogba signs Juventus deal... and agent pockets £1.7m

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html)

By Sportsmail Reporter

Last updated at 3:32 PM on 7th March 2012

Italian job: Pogba will join Juventus

Juventus have agreed a deal for Manchester United contract rebel Paul Pogba.

Sportsmail revealed last month that the Italians had outlined a four year contract for the 18-year-old that is expected to earn him a basic £20,000 a week.

His agent Mino Raiola, who represents Manchester City's Mario Balotelli, is also understood to have agreed a commission on the deal of around £1.7million.

The France Under 19 international was left out of United's reserve fixture with West Brom on Tuesday night and has not figured in the recent Premier League games despite travelling with the squad.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson has grown frustrated with the protracted negotiations and United will receive training compensation to be determined by FIFA.

Ferguson said he knew nothing of the intentions of Pogba.

'I can't tell you anything about it because I do not know,' said Ferguson.

Pogba follows another major talent - Ravel Morrison - out of the exit door. He signed for West Ham in the transfer window after the champions lost patience with his indiscipline.

He is staying at UTD  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 11, 2012, 09:33:10 AM
I liked watching him play, but maybe this is ultimately a good thing...

Man United lose another young ace as Pogba signs Juventus deal... and agent pockets £1.7m

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html)

By Sportsmail Reporter

Last updated at 3:32 PM on 7th March 2012

Italian job: Pogba will join Juventus

Juventus have agreed a deal for Manchester United contract rebel Paul Pogba.

Sportsmail revealed last month that the Italians had outlined a four year contract for the 18-year-old that is expected to earn him a basic £20,000 a week.

His agent Mino Raiola, who represents Manchester City's Mario Balotelli, is also understood to have agreed a commission on the deal of around £1.7million.

The France Under 19 international was left out of United's reserve fixture with West Brom on Tuesday night and has not figured in the recent Premier League games despite travelling with the squad.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson has grown frustrated with the protracted negotiations and United will receive training compensation to be determined by FIFA.

Ferguson said he knew nothing of the intentions of Pogba.

'I can't tell you anything about it because I do not know,' said Ferguson.

Pogba follows another major talent - Ravel Morrison - out of the exit door. He signed for West Ham in the transfer window after the champions lost patience with his indiscipline.

He is staying at UTD  :beermug:

Oh gorsh DH, yuh well quick on the typing!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2012, 09:39:05 AM
 ;D

I see yuh boy just pull of a big save
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2012, 09:42:16 AM
Swansea just took the lead against City  :flamethrower:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 11, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
;D

I see yuh boy just pull of a big save

Listen, ah love him because he has shown great resiliency and dig in when he could have curled up like ah corn curls!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
CITY HAS LOST !!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 11, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
Man Shitty with all their firepower still need to work out a plan.  Too much reliance on individual brilliance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 11, 2012, 09:59:10 AM
CITY HAS LOST !!!!

 First!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 11, 2012, 10:16:45 AM
I liked watching him play, but maybe this is ultimately a good thing...

Man United lose another young ace as Pogba signs Juventus deal... and agent pockets £1.7m

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2111213/Paul-Pogba-leaves-Manchester-United-join-Juventus.html)

By Sportsmail Reporter

Last updated at 3:32 PM on 7th March 2012

Italian job: Pogba will join Juventus

Juventus have agreed a deal for Manchester United contract rebel Paul Pogba.

Sportsmail revealed last month that the Italians had outlined a four year contract for the 18-year-old that is expected to earn him a basic £20,000 a week.

His agent Mino Raiola, who represents Manchester City's Mario Balotelli, is also understood to have agreed a commission on the deal of around £1.7million.

The France Under 19 international was left out of United's reserve fixture with West Brom on Tuesday night and has not figured in the recent Premier League games despite travelling with the squad.

Manager Sir Alex Ferguson has grown frustrated with the protracted negotiations and United will receive training compensation to be determined by FIFA.

Ferguson said he knew nothing of the intentions of Pogba.

'I can't tell you anything about it because I do not know,' said Ferguson.

Pogba follows another major talent - Ravel Morrison - out of the exit door. He signed for West Ham in the transfer window after the champions lost patience with his indiscipline.

He is staying at UTD  :beermug:

Oh gorsh DH, yuh well quick on the typing!  ;D
He came on as a sub today..On another note Swansea missed a penalty from Sinclair and found the winner through Moore. Man.United on top ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 15, 2012, 07:06:01 AM
After the memorable events of yesterday, i almost forget it had football left to play this week yes...

Happy Manchester Thursday everyone..  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 07:14:54 AM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 15, 2012, 07:29:40 AM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

dread you an giggsy chook dat jep nes' yesterday doh cry 'cause yuh get sting :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 07:42:04 AM
 :arguing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 15, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

dread you an giggsy chook dat jep nes' yesterday doh cry 'cause yuh get sting :D

Game on until season over! All yuh started it with allyuh bag ah salt!  :flamethrower: :challenge:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2012, 11:22:40 AM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

 :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
http://www.rojadirecta.me/ scroll down to find the game , click on it to see links , game is live now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 12:15:07 PM
lord farder
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 12:24:38 PM
 :banginghead:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 15, 2012, 12:24:54 PM
Haha ManUre get wood!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2012, 12:31:48 PM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

... starts making a big pitcher of haterade ...  :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2012, 12:56:55 PM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

... starts making a big pitcher of haterade ...  :whistling:

Don't forget a dash of picong for flavour.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Dem f**kers better play d game of their lives today. I ain't able for no haters today nah

... starts making a big pitcher of haterade ...  :whistling:

Don't forget a dash of picong for flavour.

Is a potluck. Atletico preparing a humble pie for United right now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 15, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
Man U is rell shit boi!!  Dem cah talk bout my team wey supposed to be in shambles and dig deep and get it done when called upon!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 15, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
Ah hate to say it but if this team was more clinical infront of goal, ManU woulda done collect bout 6.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2012, 01:32:51 PM
Athletic real throwing away in this game...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2012, 01:40:57 PM
ahahahahah The Bilbao fans clapped for the Rooney goal.

It doesn't get more condescending than that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on March 15, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
That was a well taken goal by Rooney! Too bad he can't score 2 more like that in this game  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 15, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
ahahahahah The Bilbao fans clapped for the Rooney goal.

It doesn't get more condescending than that.

Ent?!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
"I wish I could say that Fergie tanked this one to focus on the league, but United will win most of their premiership games with this lineup. They have been outclassed by a team that is 33 points(!) behind Real Madrid in the, supposedly, inferior La Liga. I am a United fan and am worried, very worried, about their future European ambitions."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 15, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
No more Man U Thurdays fuh dis shit side!!! :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 15, 2012, 01:52:21 PM
Nothing like a tall cool glass of haterade on a warm spring day...  :beermug:

I'm sure now we'll hear that Man U was really looking to focus on the league  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 15, 2012, 01:58:05 PM
No more Man U Thurdays fuh dis shit side!!! :rotfl:

I feeling bad for Dinho.  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 15, 2012, 02:03:13 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Nice one Bilbao. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 15, 2012, 02:07:25 PM
Saddened, sorrowful and distraught!!

What will my Thursdays be like now without the comfort of Man Utd battling it out in the Europa?

I was really looking forward to them having to go to Outer Siberia to play Metallist in the next round.

Ah well.. Was a joy while it lasted.

So long for Manchester Thursdays.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: just cool on March 15, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
Saddened, sorrowful and distraught!!

What will my Thursdays be like now without the comfort of Man Utd battling it out in the Europa?

I was really looking forward to them having to go to Outer Siberia to play Metallist in the next round.

Ah well.. Was a joy while it lasted.

So long for Manchester Thursdays.

Well there's always the noisy neighbors.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on March 15, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
Saddened, sorrowful and distraught!!

What will my Thursdays be like now without the comfort of Man Utd battling it out in the Europa?

I was really looking forward to them having to go to Outer Siberia to play Metallist in the next round.

Ah well.. Was a joy while it lasted.

So long for Manchester Thursdays.

Well there's always the noisy neighbors.  ;D

The noisy neighbours busy trying to one up them though

http://www.youtube.com/v/WO23WBji_Z0

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 15, 2012, 03:23:43 PM
top team Bilbao.. they really gave it their all in the 2 games.. havent seen them otherwise so I dont know if they saved their 2 finest games for United but nothing but respect here..If I am going to lose I'd rather be played off the park and we were so hopefully they go on to win it

As for United, this year in Europe has been coming and under the disillusions of Ferguson having reached a CL final last season with a relatively easy run to the final (Marseille, Chelsea on their slump and Schalke) and losing Van Der Sar, Scholes(even though he came back after the group stage) and with the injury crisis at the back throughout the groupstage those factors plus our lack of technical world class players were exposed this year by teams using newschool tactics and formations while we played 4-4-2 in 5 out of 6 ECL group games and played 4-4-2 , 3 out of 4 times in Europa... 2 man CM with Carrick as the interceptor and a converted 38 year old winger isnt the direction needed... we have to adapt to it or we will left behind by not only Barca Real etc but by Benfica Atletic Bilbao etc...  Scary times ahead in Europe If Fergie doesnt use this summer to increase technical players with tactical variation and rid of guys like Park, Anderson etc who cannot be flexible in it due to their terrible technical ability


Anyway bright side is 10 games to go in the prem, no more Thursdays , plenty time to rest between... full assault for 20..Lets have it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on March 15, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Pull Stones  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 15, 2012, 04:17:32 PM
Weak ass line up!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 15, 2012, 04:32:53 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 15, 2012, 06:19:14 PM
What d f**k just happen today? . Stueps.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 15, 2012, 06:25:31 PM
What d f**k just happen today? . Stueps.
:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on March 15, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
What d f**k just happen today? . Stueps.


Wha yuh mean wha happen? Dey fold up when a side press them intensely forcing them to not retain the ball because they dont have the people to do it. Plus a weak midfield. Why yuh suprised?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 15, 2012, 08:29:20 PM
What d f**k just happen today? . Stueps.


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xlCPv6b8cQQ/TmlDPYk0R4I/AAAAAAAABP8/d7faoHQizlk/s1600/pic_morpheus.jpg)

"DHW..... What happened, happened and could not have happened any other way."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on March 15, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
What d f**k just happen today? . Stueps.
A reality check....Man U had a poor European campaign....period!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on March 16, 2012, 12:41:54 AM
ohhh gaaarrdoooooo!!!!!! ah near choke on ah rough tops when i saw this durin d game

http://www.youtube.com/v/OZWx8o0Meik&feature=related
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on March 16, 2012, 01:24:02 AM
ohhh gaaarrdoooooo!!!!!! ah near choke on ah rough tops when i saw this durin d game

http://www.youtube.com/v/OZWx8o0Meik&feature=related

 :o :o :o :o :o :timeout:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 16, 2012, 06:29:04 AM
ohhh gaaarrdoooooo!!!!!! ah near choke on ah rough tops when i saw this durin d game

http://www.youtube.com/v/OZWx8o0Meik&feature=related

TOOLUM!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 16, 2012, 06:53:09 AM
Damn.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2012, 07:10:57 AM
sigh  :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on March 16, 2012, 08:01:53 AM
ManU were very fortunate, its one thing to get knocked out, but they could have easily exited
with a 5 goal rape.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 16, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Check it out here (http://watchhighlightsonline.blogspot.com/2012/03/video-andoni-iraola-miss-vs-man-united.html)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 16, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
Midfield, midfield, midfield.................. No midfield no glory! Can't control/retain possession and shield the defence hence the chances the opposition getting against us. If we have to over pay for a midfielder or two who will hold it down, we might as well. Skill and athleticism is not cheap nor is winning in Europe.

Oh yeah-and bring back Carlos to shake up the practices and the systems! We don't need tuh see Mike Phelan on the sidelines anymore.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 18, 2012, 08:16:53 AM
Wolves are being dismantled
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 18, 2012, 08:22:08 AM
Time to feast!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 18, 2012, 08:23:38 AM
What a clown Zubar is.. should have gotten a straight red for the Foul on Rooney... I have always hated Wolves..hope we score 8 and f**king bury their chances of staying up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 18, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
But aa, why every time United score dey keeping showing dred with the bandaged hand and he always on the ground? Pogba score one for we  dey!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 18, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
Is matches like this it would be nice to see Valencia try out his left foot tuh see if it workin!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 18, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
Over to you City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 18, 2012, 09:30:10 AM
3 more points...  should have been more goals and better play but having played Thursday it was always going to be a bit hard to keep the levels up.. nice long break till Monday when we take on Fulham at OT where hopefully Jones Nani Clev (and hopefully Berba- though it looks like he and Fergie have had a fall out) will all be back in the matchday squad to increase the quality... Valencia was awesome on his return and I'm really happy for my boy Chico..those goals will give him confidence which he had been seriously lacking
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 24, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
stoke leading city 1 nil - 71 min
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 24, 2012, 01:22:22 PM
1-1 90min, Jones coming on
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 24, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
City draw. Good!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 24, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
chance to go 3 ahead Monday...  :thumbsup:

Before City vs United:

United: Fulham(H) , Blackburn(A), QPR(H), Wigan(A), Villa(H) and Everton(H)

City: Sunderland(H), Arsenal(A), West Brom(H), Norwich(A), Wolves(A)

I would like to be 5 points clear by the time we go Etihad and looking at our run in vs City's I think it is very possible to achieve that target

Also, I am off to Manchester on April 4th.. going QPR Villa and Everton home and Wigan away.. hopefully will see United secure a lead big enough to win title 20  ;)

Buzzing.. cannot wait to go "home" again
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: saint27 on March 26, 2012, 11:22:22 AM
A big win today will be nice .....goals goals goals ....small mag doh get lost in england
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 26, 2012, 03:41:52 PM
1 nil win . 3 point lead.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 26, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
We dominated, but could not score more than 1 today. Fulham had a clear penalty not called, and some of those tackles by us were horrible and deserved atleast 1 red card. I'll take the win though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 26, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
We dominated, but could not score more than 1 today. Fulham had a clear penalty not called, and some of those tackles by us were horrible and deserved atleast 1 red card. I'll take the win though.

I eh see it yet, but from the tone of your post, the game musta been played at ole trafford......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 26, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
We dominated, but could not score more than 1 today. Fulham had a clear penalty not called, and some of those tackles by us were horrible and deserved atleast 1 red card. I'll take the win though.

Slight contact that could/should have been called... but if that is what Fulham hanging dey hat on then they ent really have much to argue about.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 26, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
We dominated, but could not score more than 1 today. Fulham had a clear penalty not called, and some of those tackles by us were horrible and deserved atleast 1 red card. I'll take the win though.

Slight contact that could/should have been called... but if that is what Fulham hanging dey hat on then they ent really have much to argue about.
Agree on your comment. Dempsey looked good in the beginning, but faded after his first two attempts on goal. They however defended well today. Maybe if they used this type of tactic on us at home, it might have worked, but not at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on March 28, 2012, 06:43:29 AM
Good luck today guys...........


























In whatever else you get up to on this Champions League Wednesday.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 28, 2012, 11:51:17 AM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on March 28, 2012, 02:49:31 PM
Good luck today guys...........



















Will remind yuh next year when allyuh watching even de group stages. Doh fear, if allyuh slip by Benfica, ah cutarse book in de semis.






In whatever else you get up to on this Champions League Wednesday.  ;D
[quote author=Flickin Killa a/k/a Mad Scorpion link=topic=28966.msg799733#msg7997
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 28, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Glory Glory!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 28, 2012, 07:05:58 PM
Chelsea fans real sad for real yes lol.. We beat them 3-1 at OT and almost came back from 3-0 down to win 4-3 at the Bridge and we 1st in the league possibly going to win our 20th League Title, while they have won 4 is it? and are currently 5th in the league

Not to mention the tournament they bragging about that they in , we have 3 while they have what is it again? Let me ask John Terry

Small Club, Small minded fans

They lix book in the semi's and Spurs knocking them out the FA Cup ... Let's see If any Chelski fan brave enough to open their mouth after the 15th April when their season comes to a crashing halt on all fronts

Battle for 4th lol.. Ah Love it(copyright Andre Samuel- the smartest Chelsea fan who remains mute as he know he have no right as a Chelsea fan to give anyone talk this season until they win something or at least come 4th)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 28, 2012, 08:15:55 PM
Chelsea fans real sad for real yes lol.. We beat them 3-1 at OT and almost came back from 3-0 down to win 4-3 at the Bridge and we 1st in the league possibly going to win our 20th League Title, while they have won 4 is it? and are currently 5th in the league

Not to mention the tournament they bragging about that they in , we have 3 while they have what is it again? Let me ask John Terry

Small Club, Small minded fans

They lix book in the semi's and Spurs knocking them out the FA Cup ... Let's see If any Chelski fan brave enough to open their mouth after the 15th April when their season comes to a crashing halt on all fronts

Battle for 4th lol.. Ah Love it(copyright Andre Samuel- the smartest Chelsea fan who remains mute as he know he have no right as a Chelsea fan to give anyone talk this season until they win something or at least come 4th)

Pish posh.......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 29, 2012, 10:03:40 AM
Chelsea fans real sad for real yes lol.. We beat them 3-1 at OT and almost came back from 3-0 down to win 4-3 at the Bridge and we 1st in the league possibly going to win our 20th League Title, while they have won 4 is it? and are currently 5th in the league

Not to mention the tournament they bragging about that they in , we have 3 while they have what is it again? Let me ask John Terry

Small Club, Small minded fans

They lix book in the semi's and Spurs knocking them out the FA Cup ... Let's see If any Chelski fan brave enough to open their mouth after the 15th April when their season comes to a crashing halt on all fronts

Battle for 4th lol.. Ah Love it(copyright Andre Samuel- the smartest Chelsea fan who remains mute as he know he have no right as a Chelsea fan to give anyone talk this season until they win something or at least come 4th)

Take ah drink outta allyuh Europa Cup nah dawgie!  Oh wait allyuh not even in dat needa, sorry breds :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on March 29, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
at least we can take a drink out of it from our numerous Trophy Cabinets

What allyuh have? a desk holding your 4 prems and 6 or so carling cups?  Shithongs

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 29, 2012, 05:49:16 PM
Chelsea fans real sad for real yes lol.. We beat them 3-1 at OT and almost came back from 3-0 down to win 4-3 at the Bridge and we 1st in the league possibly going to win our 20th League Title, while they have won 4 is it? and are currently 5th in the league

Not to mention the tournament they bragging about that they in , we have 3 while they have what is it again? Let me ask John Terry

Small Club, Small minded fans

They lix book in the semi's and Spurs knocking them out the FA Cup ... Let's see If any Chelski fan brave enough to open their mouth after the 15th April when their season comes to a crashing halt on all fronts

Battle for 4th lol.. Ah Love it(copyright Andre Samuel- the smartest Chelsea fan who remains mute as he know he have no right as a Chelsea fan to give anyone talk this season until they win something or at least come 4th)

Take ah drink outta allyuh Europa Cup nah dawgie!  Oh wait allyuh not even in dat needa, sorry breds :rotfl:

Lol, alyuh cah give nobody talk. Just concentrate on making CL next year if alyuh lucky.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: saint27 on April 02, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Happy birthday small mag ..... enjoy your england trip
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 01:48:05 PM
We keeper on fire!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
That's my boy! Time tuh bring on another winger and for Jones tuh buss it!
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Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
Intense! Nail biter
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 02:40:03 PM
Goal in yuh mudder!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 02, 2012, 02:40:48 PM
Pressure does buss pipe.

Hard luck Blackburn.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
Goal! Two of d very best!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
Glory glory!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 02, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Man Utd have won the title. Mancini should keep he mout shut, but he was only telling the truth.

Utd are simply too ruthless to drop any points ahead of the match against City on the 30th.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
That's United-we score we always score! Yuh know Valencia happy and relaxed-he running into hugs and kissing men in dey head! I aint go lie Tony V dos well make the best of his right foot-sweet goal sah!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 02, 2012, 02:49:28 PM
Man Utd have won the title. Mancini should keep he mout shut, but he was only telling the truth.

Utd are simply too ruthless to drop any points ahead of the match against City on the 30th.

And yuh know Arsenal would like nothing better than to rub it in vs Nasri and Clichy next week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
Man Utd have won the title. Mancini should keep he mout shut, but he was only telling the truth.

Utd are simply too ruthless to drop any points ahead of the match against City on the 30th.

We looking for the guard of honor when we go tuh Citeh! Upstarts!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Man Utd have won the title. Mancini should keep he mout shut, but he was only telling the truth.

Utd are simply too ruthless to drop any points ahead of the match against City on the 30th.

We looking for the guard of honor when we go tuh Citeh! Upstarts!

Hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
The Spanish Cat did his job again until we scored!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 02, 2012, 02:54:59 PM
Man Utd have won the title. Mancini should keep he mout shut, but he was only telling the truth.

Utd are simply too ruthless to drop any points ahead of the match against City on the 30th.

We looking for the guard of honor when we go tuh Citeh! Upstarts!

Well Utd have deserved it. Feruson's charges have displayed that killer instinct when it has mattered.

Dalglish and Liverpool take note....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 03:00:52 PM
The Spanish Cat did his job again until we scored!

I have to get the first save he make , it was boss

(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/142339176.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215AB089EE596C658843C2B0E09A3E9AE408DFF7AA0492AC910A35F75EC3448247)

(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/142339142.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215AB089EE596C6588041F64117300BB7B08DFF7AA0492AC91DF31453E15444D99)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 02, 2012, 03:12:57 PM
5 points clear.. it not done by any means.. every game is a cup final.. If we win our next 4 it should be done and dusted before we play City.. that is the target, to be at least 5 clear there
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 02, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
De Gea has done a great job of being more prepared to make a save after periods of not feeling the ball during the matches. It shows that his concentration levels have also improved since the beginning of the season. Keeprs who play for sides who dominate possession have to maintain their concentration thru out the matches.
Also Tony V has set up as many goals (12)  in the league as David Silva depite playing in fewer matches! Silva bun and Mancini keep runnin him out every match! Over dependant
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526944_339873326059882_175913989122484_841567_244968839_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 08, 2012, 06:46:33 AM
An offside man dive, and QPR gets a man sent off and a penalty against.
Time to stop watching this "game"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 08, 2012, 06:46:48 AM
Two bad calls. Offisdes and Young dove! These refs so damn inconsistent is ridiculous. I turn on the tv just in time tuh see the QPR captain passin the handband. I say man injured, when I see what really happened I was shocked. Two awful calls then compunded with man getting sent off. United can beat QPR without that stuff. I waiting to see if anyone at United call Young out on his diving the way they use to call out Ronaldo or Nani
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 08, 2012, 07:04:17 AM
Thank you Martin Tyler for bringing up Ashley Cole's diving and the bias English view as it pertains to the foreigners being the main culprits!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 08, 2012, 07:09:17 AM
this officiating crew is pretty terrible. Shocking calls for the United "penalty".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 08, 2012, 07:55:37 AM
ALL HAIL THE SCHOLES  :notworthy: TRUE BALLER!

nice rocket
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 08, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
ALL HAIL THE SCHOLES  :notworthy: TRUE BALLER!

nice rocket

And they have the gall tuh say Fat Frank better than him or even comparable. Fat Frank can't even hit it or pass it like Scholes is doing in his older state and he younger than Scholes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on April 08, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
Small Mag was there live at Old Trafford...luck son of a B...   opps...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 08, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
Matchtiefer United
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Post by: triniairman on April 08, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
Matchtiefer United
You should post something similar in the Chelsea thread.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 11, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
Wigan up now, lets get those 3 points !
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 11, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
Is not an official round in the EPL until Wigan get tief by the officials.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on April 11, 2012, 01:41:45 PM
All I have to do is shake my head at that awful call!  :bs:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 11, 2012, 01:56:03 PM
Wigan up now, lets get those 3 points !

  Wigan really up now.  Deservedly so!  :devil:





....man make roony look rel foolish.....dem Wigan players done leave out dem manu players for pace a few times well in this match arready!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on April 11, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
Wigan up now, lets get those 3 points !

  Wigan really up now.  Deservedly so!  :devil:

Redemption!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 11, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
So United are down. Knowing Man Utd as I do, they will come back, especially as they seem to have a penchant for scoring late goals.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 11, 2012, 02:05:04 PM
Midfield looks dead.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 11, 2012, 02:09:19 PM
Nani!

Edit: rooney pull stones today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 11, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Wigan pulling stones  :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 11, 2012, 02:36:21 PM
Wigan pulling stones  :-\

Doh worry, the execs of the EPL ask Man Utd to let Wigan win, so that the match at the end of the month could be interesting

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 11, 2012, 02:39:41 PM
Ah fork.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 11, 2012, 02:40:58 PM
Wigan! Big up!

I wonder what Martinez could do if he was coaching at a club with a lil money
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on April 11, 2012, 02:41:07 PM
Hay Liga?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 11, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
5 point lead.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 11, 2012, 02:43:49 PM
5 point lead.

Ah smelling ah fix. TV revenues need to be made on the 30th and a title race that is up for grabs is too much to resist

Again, I jest.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 11, 2012, 02:45:54 PM
This was a very predictable result/performance. Coming off if 8 straight wins (10 in 11) and all the premature talk about title being over. Add Wigan' great form.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on April 11, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
Even with 5 mins of Fergie time..they could not beat Wigan!  :rotfl:

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 11, 2012, 02:54:09 PM
This was a very predictable result/performance. Coming off if 8 straight wins (10 in 11) and all the premature talk about title being over. Add Wigan' great form.



Mancini is a genius! Reverse psychology! Make concession speeches and make Man Utd think that the race is over (although a five point lead is still relatively safe, once Utd doh mess up anymore).

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 11, 2012, 03:03:36 PM
Hopefully Man Utd drop 2 more points to Villa or Everton before the City game.

That would set it up nice.

Well done to Wigan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on April 11, 2012, 03:25:35 PM
I find the relegation teams are playing good ball. I watched QPR last game and I swear, they don't play like a team in relegation zone. But that is how the premier league should be. The survival of the fittest.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 11, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
Wigan! Big up!

I wonder what Martinez could do if he was coaching at a club with a lil money

Liverpool, anyone?  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 11, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
Wigan! Big up!

I wonder what Martinez could do if he was coaching at a club with a lil money

Liverpool, anyone?  :beermug:

Yuh ready to depose King Kenny?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 11, 2012, 06:19:04 PM
Wigan just get the delayed victory they should have gotten against Chelski! Time to start a new winning streak!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 11, 2012, 08:39:49 PM
Fergie nose so red; I swear, if yuh squeeze it you would get wine!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 09:10:32 AM
1 nil, 7min. Penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Lord, Ashley Young is a bigger diver than Ronaldo ever was or is!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on April 15, 2012, 09:11:38 AM
1 nil, 7min. Penalty.

be honest wit yuhself
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 09:17:26 AM
Young used to dive so when he was at villa?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:30:20 AM
Young used to dive so when he was at villa?

Yes and for Englund!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 09:32:48 AM
Scholes could smack ah ball dread. Lord!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Scholes could smack ah ball dread. Lord!

Great technique and can drop a pass in the basket also!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 15, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
Young used to dive so when he was at villa?

Yes and for Englund!

Yeah,
He have it down to a science. Which suggests years of practice.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:41:41 AM
Young used to dive so when he was at villa?

Yes and for Englund!

Yeah,
He have it down to a science. Which suggests years of practice.

Refs still fallin for his shit.I does wonder if refs don't study players who consistently win penalties and have a reputation for diving before they ref a match they are in.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:42:47 AM
Rooney pullin stones again!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 09:43:21 AM
Rooney pullin stones again!

Two games in a row.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 09:44:52 AM
Young used to dive so when he was at villa?

Yes and for Englund!

Yeah,
He have it down to a science. Which suggests years of practice.

Refs still fallin for his shit.I does wonder if refs don't study players who consistently win penalties and have a reputation for diving before they ref a match they are in.

He make it look good, slow motion show him up. But real time, it look legit at least to me.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:46:12 AM
Rooney pullin stones again!

Two games in a row.

Most of the season!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
3 fakes, for welbeck. Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 09:49:25 AM
3 fakes, for welbeck. Lol

Defender dummy it for him yes! ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 10:16:45 AM
Lord rooney, time for a sub
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 10:18:08 AM
Time tuh unleash the Berba again!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
Time tuh unleash the Berba again!

Ent, give d man a run
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2012, 10:34:55 AM
Lol @ rooney.


Hahaha look Berba.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 10:37:15 AM
LOl! It would be nice if Berba score!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 15, 2012, 10:57:32 AM
Nani will do. Evans and Carrick have done a great job this season of contributing to the success of the team. :applause:

Serious sports on Tv today. United win time tuh move on tuh my Flyers!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 15, 2012, 10:11:55 PM
Alex McLeish was magnanimous in defeat (http://www.footballnasha.com/extra-ashley-young-dives-manchester-united-penalty/)... but Ashley Young, what a disgrace to himself and to the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 16, 2012, 06:51:31 PM
What allyuh think?

Telegraph.co.uk
By Jason Burt, Senior Football Writer
 Tuesday 17 April 2012
 
Manchester United agree a deal to sign Benfica's Nicolas Gaitan for £20m plus Fabio and Federico  Macheda
 Manchester United have agreed a deal to sign the Benfica midfielder Nicolás Gaitán with both Fabio da Silva and Federico Macheda moving to the Portuguese club as part of the terms.

The details of the deal are likely to see Fabio going only on a season’s long loan while Macheda’s transfer could be a permanent one, with Manchester United then reducing some of the costs of acquiring the highly-rated Gaitán.

Although the figures involved are unlikely to be disclosed, and the deal will not be announced until the season is over, it appears United are valuing Gaitán at more than £20 million plus the players.

While it will be interesting to see where he fits into Sir Alex Ferguson’s plans United have been tracking the Argentina international for some time and are now understood to have made their move for a summer transfer. Gaitan, who can play as an attacking midfielder or left-sided winger, caught the eye in Benfica’s Champions League campaign this season when they faced both United and Chelsea.

The 24 year-old has a £38 million release clause in his contract and it had been thought that Benfica were attempting to hold out for the full amount to be paid. However, that was always going to be an unrealistic valuation for Gaitán, despite his undoubted talent which has also attracted the likes of Inter Milan and Paris St-Germain, and United have been in talks for several months to try to structure a deal.

Macheda, the 20-year-old Italian striker, is on loan to Queens Park Rangers but has failed to make an impression after a handful of appearances and has returned to United after suffering an ankle injury. It would now appear his days at Old Trafford are numbered with Macheda a makeweight in the deal while, more interestingly, Fabio also appears set to be included.

The inclusion of players would be an attraction for Benfica who have to pay Gaitan’s former club, Boca Juniors, 20 per cent of any transfer fee. United had hoped to agree a deal in January but will now conclude the transfer in June.

It had been thought that United might try to include Bebe as well as Macheda but the choice of Fabio has helped persuade Benfica to conclude negotiations. Gaitan is understood to be represented by the Portuguese agent Jorge Mendes who has close links with United having taken the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani to the club.
Ferguson has already said that Fabio will go out on loan next season. Although the Brazilian featured in United Champions League final defeat to Barcelona last season, he has failed to progress as expected.

A succession of niggling injuries have not helped and Fabio had made just 15 appearances in all competitions this season, with the right-back starting just two league matches.

Ferguson told United Review: “Fabio will go on loan next season to give him concentrated first-team experience. We have already talked to him and he understands the value of playing regularly at a higher level than we can give him at the moment.”




 
 
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Post by: D.H.W on April 16, 2012, 07:01:25 PM
Never heard of him, but I find they could sign half d athletico team that cut we ass

Fabio and macheda can't say I care much.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 16, 2012, 07:05:41 PM
Never heard of him, but I find they could sign half d athletico team that cut we ass

Fabio and macheda can't say I care much.

What yuh mean yuh never heard about him? Yuh didn't watch him play in the CL, against United and Chelsea?

http://youtu.be/7Vu2f2J0UIA

http://youtu.be/2jQTCAhDZSw

http://youtu.be/Zkw2tv97rp0

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 16, 2012, 07:12:37 PM
Never heard of him, but I find they could sign half d athletico team that cut we ass

Fabio and macheda can't say I care much.

What yuh mean yuh never heard about him? Yuh didn't watch him play in the CL against United and Chelsea?

I cah remember names well , if I see him it might jog my memory.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on April 16, 2012, 08:02:18 PM
Never heard of him, but I find they could sign half d athletico team that cut we ass

Fabio and macheda can't say I care much.

Ahahaha!! A really laugh out loud for that one. Francomen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on April 16, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq65vw_gary-neville-tells-it-like-it-is-on-diving_sport


Great overview on diving by Gary Neville
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 16, 2012, 09:55:25 PM
I doh find gary neville really told it like it is.  he still called ashley young's dramatic flop a "penalty" even though it is clear the ashley young is the one that initiated the contact with his right foot.  If neville woulda say that the diving and extra drama is WRONG and it is spoiling the game and that ashley young and Lampard and "stevie g-captain courageous" and all these marqee players need to stop with their nonsense, then I would say he was telling it like it is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 17, 2012, 07:00:28 AM
Alot of United fans dont want Gaitian .. I however wouldnt mind..He is 23, technically very good, can play attacking mid in a 3 man midfield , RW and LW.. so he offers variety and he could blossom on a bigger stage . I think he is coming in as Park's replacement so we can have 4 wingers and of those wingers 2 can play behind the main striker ..(Young and Gaitain)

Fabio going on loan and according to a respectable journo of the Times he said a few weeks ago that If we dont sign a Left Back he will eat his hat, saying he is hearing we are bringing in a LB..which we need to do to give Evra competition as he's been very poor over the last 2 seasons and not getting any younger. I want Baines badly, 26, English so a good understanding of the league and he offers great service and has goals and assists in abundance for a LB...Aly Cisssokho name in the speculation too..strong big guy with good technique

this is going to be an interesting summer.. names expected to leave are Berbatov, Park, Fabio on loan.. and possibly Anderson

I'm guessing we may buy a CM to add to Carrick, Clev, Scholes, Giggs and Fletcher when he returns .. we would need cover in there as Fletch is unknown , Clev injury prone and Scholes and Giggsy in their late 30's ... I'm hoping for Modric ..someone with technical ability but great energy about them and an attack minded side to their game..or Eriksen is a good choice too...maybe Sahin on loan from Real..they owe us a f**kin player

Then its up top..apparently we are going to be using a 4-2-3-1 next season with Wazza as the main man and Hernandez and Welbeck as lone striking options.. so the CAM will be the interesting bit.. he may decide Gaitian or Young or he may add someone classy like Hazard or Sneijder ...Gotze just signed a contract so doubt thats on.....I'm thinking he will go after Wesley.. will be cheaper this season and with Berba's 100 gran a week available it will be easier to negotiate

Interesting times ahead...and yea I play too much FIFA Career mode lol

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: saint27 on April 17, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
I'm thinking Gaitan and the cover in the middle with javi garcia .... would love to see modric tho ....
Gaitan is very good and is a good left footed option with good delivery likes to take on players
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 20, 2012, 07:51:36 AM
Lol about the comment regarding Neville!

 I want to see if Young will continue to take the tumble after hearing this!

UK Sun-


MANCHESTER UNITED fans have turned on Ashley Young, slamming his diving as a ‘disgrace’.

The Manchester United winger, 26, has faced a barrage of criticism for his blatant falls against both QPR and Aston Villa.
 
Even Old Trafford boss Alex Ferguson admitted that the England man ‘overdid’ his tumble against Villa on Sunday.
 
Club legend Bryan Robson believes his play-acting could cost United dear. And now fans have turned against the £16m former Villa star.
 
In a scathing editorial, influential fanzine Red Issue pilloried Young, slamming him for ‘his latest disgraceful dive’ and adds ‘diving is cheating’ and says his behaviour is a betrayal of the code of conduct instilled at Old Trafford by legendary boss Matt Busby.
 
The editorial quotes Busby’s saying: “If anything is to be gained from football, it is to be gained by winning or losing with dignity.”
 
For good measure, the magazine also describes former United star and Sky pundit Gary Neville’s attempts to justify diving and other forms of cheating as ‘depressing’.
 



 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2012, 06:04:24 AM
Allyuh ent wake up yet?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 06:13:36 AM
I up just barely.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2012, 06:22:21 AM
Meh boy Nani seems like he up for the game today. Ah feel he have ah goal in too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 06:46:24 AM
Welbeck!!

Hahaha valencia turn, mash up d man leg lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 06:49:46 AM
Goal sah! Nani, nice build up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
Valencia, ripping up bad!

Edit
Stueps 3-2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 06:58:34 AM
Bess goal. 4-2. Rooney!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2012, 07:01:21 AM
Yuh know Sturridge aint gettin no run for Englund now, in  front of Welbeck based on how Welbeck, and Rooney clicking.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 07:11:55 AM
Defenders playing d fool.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2012, 07:13:08 AM
Yuh know Sturridge aint gettin no run for Englund now, in  front of Welbeck based on how Welbeck, and Rooney clicking.

   Sturridge, wellbeck, rooney, it doh matter, England is still a shit side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 07:13:41 AM
Hahaha 4-4
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 22, 2012, 07:14:38 AM
I not on here to hate...but what a team goal by Everton!!...4-4...amazing stuff
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 07:14:49 AM
Fellas get too comfortable
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2012, 07:17:32 AM
I gone in the kitchen @ 3-1 to make breakfast and come back to find 4-4, wtf?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2012, 07:19:26 AM
Any stoppage time predictions?

Edit: 5 Minutes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 07:24:29 AM
Now I have to watch city game today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2012, 07:24:44 AM
Balotelli shining he boots all now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 07:25:59 AM
Sigh.. City game is a must win
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 22, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
Sigh.. City game is a must win

I wouldn't get too ahead of myself if I were you.

City is looking very nervous and timid vs the EPL minnow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 22, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 22, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.

Yuh realize that allyuh trailing City by six goals, right?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 22, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.

Yuh realize that allyuh trailing City by six goals, right?
Thats why I said "I think" I was hoping that 4 goals tie it up or pass City. Thanks for clearing it up though. This ish rell nerve racking!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on April 22, 2012, 02:40:54 PM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.

Yuh realize that allyuh trailing City by six goals, right?
Thats why I said "I think" I was hoping that 4 goals tie it up or pass City. Thanks for clearing it up though. This ish rell nerve racking!!

lol, boss, yall score 4, but Everton score 4 too...dat eh helpin yuh goal difference...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2012, 04:58:58 PM
we shall overcome !!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 22, 2012, 05:56:42 PM
lol, boss, yall score 4, but Everton score 4 too...dat eh helpin yuh goal difference...

Actually it does... goals scored is the first tie-breaker (which is what I believe he meant), not goal differential.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 23, 2012, 12:56:52 AM
lol, boss, yall score 4, but Everton score 4 too...dat eh helpin yuh goal difference...

Actually it does... goals scored is the first tie-breaker (which is what I believe he meant), not goal differential.

  Whether it is Goals For, Goals against or any angle of Goal differential (in overall games or head-to-head matchups) mancity currently have the superior numbers in every one of those categories.  Pay attention!
 
   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 23, 2012, 01:05:09 AM
we shall overcome !!

  Allyuh bishes lucky allyuh still in d driver's seat....yuh better hope mancity doh carjack allyuh arse nex' week d way dey did come een allyuh house-jack allyuh and paint ole trafford sky blue back in October!  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on April 23, 2012, 03:24:33 AM
lol, boss, yall score 4, but Everton score 4 too...dat eh helpin yuh goal difference...

Actually it does... goals scored is the first tie-breaker (which is what I believe he meant), not goal differential.

 ??? No, goal difference is the first tiebreaker  :beermug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League#Competition
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on April 23, 2012, 03:27:45 AM
And as it stands:

Goal Difference: United 54, City 60
Goals Scored: United 86, City 87
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 23, 2012, 05:28:56 AM
We have missed Vidic badly ... to think we are 1st and 3 points clear without him is insane.. Imagine where City would be if Kompany was injured for almost the entire season

We like to make it hard for ourselves..If City go on to win it they would have deserved it but we shall see what happens Monday

Even if we lose and they go level I am confident Newcastle will either beat or draw with them the matchday after the derby but obviously If we dont lose the derby it is one hand on the trophy

Big teams need a big response...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 23, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
We have missed Vidic badly ... to think we are 1st and 3 points clear without him is insane.. Imagine where City would be if Kompany was injured for almost the entire season

We like to make it hard for ourselves..If City go on to win it they would have deserved it but we shall see what happens Monday

Even if we lose and they go level I am confident Newcastle will either beat or draw with them the matchday after the derby but obviously If we dont lose the derby it is one hand on the trophy

Big teams need a big response...

How you could say that you all missed Vidic badly when just this week Fergie said that Evans has come through and forged a partnership with Ferdinand, and that Evans is the best defender in the EPL for the second half of the season??

Is Rafael killing allyuh in that right back, added to that a kinda mental slackness that is not usually characteristic of Man Utd in the latter part of a season.

Up to last week, i had this loaded up onto the truck and was ready to take it back to the factory....



(http://www.allpark.co.uk/user/products/large/25kg-bag-rock-salt.jpg)


..... but is like allyuh want meh to keep it on hold for allyuh just a lil while longer.

Good excitement for the season run in though, next Monday will be a massive game. Looking forward to it.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on April 23, 2012, 08:26:22 AM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.

Yuh realize that allyuh trailing City by six goals, right?
Thats why I said "I think" I was hoping that 4 goals tie it up or pass City. Thanks for clearing it up though. This ish rell nerve racking!!

lol, boss, yall score 4, but Everton score 4 too...dat eh helpin yuh goal difference...


Lolol, this was too funny...

That is some davyjenny business there boy airman.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 23, 2012, 08:37:56 AM
Rafael playing the ass, i remember the athletico game, the man like he does go into a day dream for a split second
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 23, 2012, 08:45:00 AM
Dinho you think I care what Fergie says? he is the same man who said at the start of the season that we are catching up to Barca lol

Evans has been good definitely but he nor an aging Rio can give you what Vidic gives you..

And totally agree about Rafael..great potential but he was at fault for at least 2, maybe 3 yesterday... will be a great RB for United in time but next season a Left Back is a must..Evra's been shambolic over the last 2 seasons..positioning wise he is atrocious ..I want Evra to stay on as he is experienced and a fighter and understands the size of the club and good for the younger players but we need a LB..I want Baines

A right back may be on the cards too..cant depend on Rafael and then use 2 CB's out there if he not fit(Jones and Smalling)

Vidic will be back so with Rio, Evans Smalling and Jones we are fine there

CM is an area to improve..I want Modric or someone like him to play off of Carrick/Scholes/Fletcher when fit
then you have the other CM's , Cleverley, Pogba if he stays and Giggs

Park will leave I reckon..even if he doesnt I can see Fergie bringing in a man who can play both wings and behind the striker , Gaitian would fit the bill , Muniain from Bilbao has been linked and the expensive speculation is Hazard

Berba will leave..therefore he will either buy a striker or CAM depending on what he wants for big games.. we can run 4-4-2 in England but not in CL..4-2-3-1 in CL it will be so I reckon Sneijder .. younger names include Eriksen, Kagawa

I can see alot of money being spent this summer...we need at least 3 quality additions because City will get stronger and so will Arsenal and Chelsea..and then of course Madrid Barca...we cant afford to be left behind

Sort it out Fergie
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 23, 2012, 08:50:06 AM
We have missed Vidic badly ... to think we are 1st and 3 points clear without him is insane.. Imagine where City would be if Kompany was injured for almost the entire season

We like to make it hard for ourselves..If City go on to win it they would have deserved it but we shall see what happens Monday

Even if we lose and they go level I am confident Newcastle will either beat or draw with them the matchday after the derby but obviously If we dont lose the derby it is one hand on the trophy

Big teams need a big response...

One can equate manu missing vidic on the defensive end to mancity missing tevez on the attacking end.  When you factor in that manu is supposedly one of THE top teams in the world that has been a well-oiled EPL machine for so long, one lil' monkey missin' ain't supposed to stop no show.  Factor in that mancity is as dysfunctional a collection of characters as any team can be, they deserve credit for getting it done.  Kompany is probably the only mature player on the team.  Allyuh lose vidic but ent allyuh still have rio? 

On another note, who it is get dah shake from Fellaini on Everton last goal, dah was evans?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 23, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
 :worried:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 23, 2012, 02:49:59 PM
  Whether it is Goals For, Goals against or any angle of Goal differential (in overall games or head-to-head matchups) mancity currently have the superior numbers in every one of those categories.  Pay attention!
 
   

Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

??? No, goal difference is the first tiebreaker  :beermug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League#Competition

You right, goal differential, then goals for.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2012, 01:24:29 AM
  Whether it is Goals For, Goals against or any angle of Goal differential (in overall games or head-to-head matchups) mancity currently have the superior numbers in every one of those categories.  Pay attention!
 
   

Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

??? No, goal difference is the first tiebreaker  :beermug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League#Competition

You right, goal differential, then goals for.

Aye, cunnyhole, yuh always quick to call people dunce, playin' "correction" officer on d forum....yet does be makin' some of the dumbest mistakes.  De man arkse 'bout "goal difference" and here you come wit yuh usual (mis)information 'bout first tie breaker....and yuh wrong again. manu score 4, (good) concede 4 (not good) AND fell behind by 2 goals in what actually is the first tie breaker (REALLY not good) but hold on to your point.....they just might need that second tie breaker yet....as well as they might not.  the other day ah see in your repeated attempt at a post-game analysis/synopsis yuh describe two of the goals in a game that ended 2-1 as "equalisers".  What a c**t.  And you purporting yuh self so much as mr legal expert....with such poor ability to "pay attention" to such simple, obvious, in-your-face details, I cyah see your clients paying for your retainer with anything more than a few commissary items.  You is more like a jailhouse lawyer. Get yuh head out yuh ass and (I repeat) "pay attention!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 24, 2012, 06:38:21 AM
I know Fergie will rip them a new ass, after giving up such a lead at home. We good on goal difference I think. I'll take a draw or a win at City.

Nah we have been lagging on goal difference which got worse once we lost to Wigan and Citeh scored 5 on the side they played. And then conceding 4 against Everton didn't help after we scored 4. We cannot depend on goal diffierence to win the league if we and Citeh end up with the same number of points. Citeh would win it. We need tuh win our matches and the worse we can do against Citeh is draw.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 24, 2012, 06:45:37 AM
  Whether it is Goals For, Goals against or any angle of Goal differential (in overall games or head-to-head matchups) mancity currently have the superior numbers in every one of those categories.  Pay attention!
 
   

Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

??? No, goal difference is the first tiebreaker  :beermug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League#Competition

You right, goal differential, then goals for.
  Whether it is Goals For, Goals against or any angle of Goal differential (in overall games or head-to-head matchups) mancity currently have the superior numbers in every one of those categories.  Pay attention!
 
   

Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

[quote

No it doen't. United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 does not help our goal difference it lessens it. City scoring 2 and not conceding any helps City's goal difference not ours. It is okay for you not to know or understand everything instead of tryin tuh act like you do! It is called being human!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 24, 2012, 01:16:27 PM
Aye, cunnyhole, yuh always quick to call people dunce, playin' "correction" officer on d forum....yet does be makin' some of the dumbest mistakes.  De man arkse 'bout "goal difference" and here you come wit yuh usual (mis)information 'bout first tie breaker....and yuh wrong again. manu score 4, (good) concede 4 (not good) AND fell behind by 2 goals in what actually is the first tie breaker (REALLY not good) but hold on to your point.....they just might need that second tie breaker yet....as well as they might not.  the other day ah see in your repeated attempt at a post-game analysis/synopsis yuh describe two of the goals in a game that ended 2-1 as "equalisers".  What a c**t.  And you purporting yuh self so much as mr legal expert....with such poor ability to "pay attention" to such simple, obvious, in-your-face details, I cyah see your clients paying for your retainer with anything more than a few commissary items.  You is more like a jailhouse lawyer. Get yuh head out yuh ass and (I repeat) "pay attention!"

It real bunnin' yuh eh?  I surprise yuh could walk upright toting all dem feelings and carrying arung dat inferiority complex  ;)


Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

[quote

No it doen't. United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 does not help our goal difference it lessens it. City scoring 2 and not conceding any helps City's goal difference not ours. It is okay for you not to know or understand everything instead of tryin tuh act like you do! It is called being human!




Ah next genius.... I made it clear that I'm not talking about goal difference you fool!  Do you understand what "total number of goals scored" aka the second tie-breaker means?  And how does United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 "lessens" your goal differential?  Thanks for telling me that City scoring 2 goals and not conceding any helps them... I really wouldn't have figured that one out if not fuh you.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 24, 2012, 01:26:47 PM
Aye, cunnyhole, yuh always quick to call people dunce, playin' "correction" officer on d forum....yet does be makin' some of the dumbest mistakes.  De man arkse 'bout "goal difference" and here you come wit yuh usual (mis)information 'bout first tie breaker....and yuh wrong again. manu score 4, (good) concede 4 (not good) AND fell behind by 2 goals in what actually is the first tie breaker (REALLY not good) but hold on to your point.....they just might need that second tie breaker yet....as well as they might not.  the other day ah see in your repeated attempt at a post-game analysis/synopsis yuh describe two of the goals in a game that ended 2-1 as "equalisers".  What a c**t.  And you purporting yuh self so much as mr legal expert....with such poor ability to "pay attention" to such simple, obvious, in-your-face details, I cyah see your clients paying for your retainer with anything more than a few commissary items.  You is more like a jailhouse lawyer. Get yuh head out yuh ass and (I repeat) "pay attention!"

It real bunnin' yuh eh?  I surprise yuh could walk upright toting all dem feelings and carrying arung dat inferiority complex  ;)


Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

[quote

No it doen't. United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 does not help our goal difference it lessens it. City scoring 2 and not conceding any helps City's goal difference not ours. It is okay for you not to know or understand everything instead of tryin tuh act like you do! It is called being human!




Ah next genius.... I made it clear that I'm not talking about goal difference you fool!  Do you understand what "total number of goals scored" aka the second tie-breaker means?  And how does United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 "lessens" your goal differential?  Thanks for telling me that City scoring 2 goals and not conceding any helps them... I really wouldn't have figured that one out if not fuh you.

Shit for brains, when it doesn't involve anything written in a book; you are the one who rushed tuh post about goal difference not being a decider that it is goals scored. So I had tuh break it down for you since you. You had no frickin clue what the hell yuh was talkin about until another poster corrected you! You stupid prick!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 24, 2012, 01:42:38 PM
Shit for brains, when it doesn't involve anything written in a book; you are the one who rushed tuh post about goal difference not being a decider that it is goals scored. So I had tuh break it down for you since you. You had no frickin clue what the hell yuh was talkin about until another poster corrected you! You stupid prick!

yes, yes... when yuh done wid de hyperventilating find where I say goal differential is not a "decider".  And my 'shit fuh brains' still trying tuh figure out how scoring four and conceding four goals lessens United's goal differential.  Thank god we have bright people like you on de forum yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 24, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
I read Nani engaged.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 24, 2012, 11:45:18 PM
Aye, cunnyhole, yuh always quick to call people dunce, playin' "correction" officer on d forum....yet does be makin' some of the dumbest mistakes.  De man arkse 'bout "goal difference" and here you come wit yuh usual (mis)information 'bout first tie breaker....and yuh wrong again. manu score 4, (good) concede 4 (not good) AND fell behind by 2 goals in what actually is the first tie breaker (REALLY not good) but hold on to your point.....they just might need that second tie breaker yet....as well as they might not.  the other day ah see in your repeated attempt at a post-game analysis/synopsis yuh describe two of the goals in a game that ended 2-1 as "equalisers".  What a c**t.  And you purporting yuh self so much as mr legal expert....with such poor ability to "pay attention" to such simple, obvious, in-your-face details, I cyah see your clients paying for your retainer with anything more than a few commissary items.  You is more like a jailhouse lawyer. Get yuh head out yuh ass and (I repeat) "pay attention!"

It real bunnin' yuh eh?  I surprise yuh could walk upright toting all dem feelings and carrying arung dat inferiority complex  ;)
 :D  You obviously need that trumped-up sense of self to exist boy.  Remind meh of Dennis Rodman.


Nobody is denying that City has the superior numbers you dunce... the fact is that scoring 4 goals to City's 2 HELPS Man U's cause where total number of goals scored is the criteria.  Pay attention!

[quote

No it doen't. United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 does not help our goal difference it lessens it. City scoring 2 and not conceding any helps City's goal difference not ours. It is okay for you not to know or understand everything instead of tryin tuh act like you do! It is called being human!




Ah next genius.... I made it clear that I'm not talking about goal difference you fool!  Do you understand what "total number of goals scored" aka the second tie-breaker means?  And how does United scoring 4 goals and conceding 4 "lessens" your goal differential?  Thanks for telling me that City scoring 2 goals and not conceding any helps them... I really wouldn't have figured that one out if not fuh you.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 30, 2012, 06:06:51 AM
Big, Big game today. Whoever lose this game losing the title.

If City wins it is over. Newcastle not stopping City if they win this game, they have a poor record against the top teams even though everybody punting them as challenging opposition.

United could drop points to Sunderland or Swansea so a draw would keep things alive but if United wins you fancy them to get a point from one of those two games.

City is not a good match-up for United. United has not done well in recent times against high tempo teams and teams that play with three in the middle. In big games like semi-finals and cup finals they have been bad too. Hopefully they approach this game like a second leg of a cup tie where they have the first leg advantage.

Ferguson could ask Rooney to drop and support in midfield (which has had mixed success), ask Valencia to tuck in (which didn’t work against Barcelona) or he coould just play a next midfielder and bench Welbeck/Chicharito. If it is the latter I hoping to see Jones and not Park, and not Giggs till the second half at least.

City have a dilemna too. Tevez and Aguero is a real threat but City have beat United by playing De Jong, Barry and Toure behind a lone striker. Also City always play cautious in these games, harry and wait for a mistake but that kinda caution is what cause them to lose all them points in the games against Arsenal, Sunderland, Swansea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 30, 2012, 06:14:12 AM
Agreed..either Rooney plays in a 3 man midfield with Scholes and Carrick or Wazza on top supported by Scholes Carrick and I would go with Cleverley ... Valencia and either Nani/Young on the left(Nani took a knock in training)

Cleverley has all the energy and more importantly the technique to keep the ball moving..Jones is a bit clumsy and Park offers f**k all on the ball

Interested to see what the old man decides

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 30, 2012, 06:44:35 AM
Dinho you think I care what Fergie says? he is the same man who said at the start of the season that we are catching up to Barca lol

Evans has been good definitely but he nor an aging Rio can give you what Vidic gives you..

And totally agree about Rafael..great potential but he was at fault for at least 2, maybe 3 yesterday... will be a great RB for United in time but next season a Left Back is a must..Evra's been shambolic over the last 2 seasons..positioning wise he is atrocious ..I want Evra to stay on as he is experienced and a fighter and understands the size of the club and good for the younger players but we need a LB..I want Baines

A right back may be on the cards too..cant depend on Rafael and then use 2 CB's out there if he not fit(Jones and Smalling)

Vidic will be back so with Rio, Evans Smalling and Jones we are fine there

CM is an area to improve..I want Modric or someone like him to play off of Carrick/Scholes/Fletcher when fit
then you have the other CM's , Cleverley, Pogba if he stays and Giggs

Park will leave I reckon..even if he doesnt I can see Fergie bringing in a man who can play both wings and behind the striker , Gaitian would fit the bill , Muniain from Bilbao has been linked and the expensive speculation is Hazard

Berba will leave..therefore he will either buy a striker or CAM depending on what he wants for big games.. we can run 4-4-2 in England but not in CL..4-2-3-1 in CL it will be so I reckon Sneijder .. younger names include Eriksen, Kagawa

I can see alot of money being spent this summer...we need at least 3 quality additions because City will get stronger and so will Arsenal and Chelsea..and then of course Madrid Barca...we cant afford to be left behind

Sort it out Fergie


I don’t know if big money spending this summer. Ferguson realize a while ago that you can’t get into an arms race with tne likes of City and Chelsea. Signings will be in that 20M “best available in the premiership” (Young Jones, Valencia) or 10-20M “relatively unknown foreign with plenty potential” (Nani, Anderson, Chicharito). They will be young and the goal will be to match City’s annual outlay and player turnover with incremental development.

The kinda year-on-year jump in performance that we seeing from Valencia is what Ferguson will be looking for in De Gea, Jones, Smalling Welbeck, Rafael, Chicharito, Cleverley and Young. In fact if Ferguson pip City this year he will see it as a real success.

To that end Sneijder is a non-starter. United really dodge a bullet by not getting him last summer. His best position is Rooney’s best position, when United really needs somebosy to play Scholes position. At his age, price and wage demands it would have been impossible to move him if he does not work out. You look at the problems that City have with overpaid players and you want to stay away from a player who makes twice as much as anybody else.

I like your earlier suggestion of Sahin. It real hurt to see Real get him for 10M last year and then bench him right thru. For that reason too a Gaitan or Hazard would give plenty options up top but a player to play alongside Carrick is more crucial. It is no surprise that Gaitan get mentioned because he will be cheaper than Hazard by a good bit.

Both are good players but they look best cutting in from wide and behind the striker which is what Nani and Young do (although not always as effectively).

Modric would bea  nice replacement for Scholes and will want to move this year if Spurs not in Europe. Chelsea might no longer be  interested…. but if Spurs want 40M they could  eff off. I hope United make a move for Cabaye. Proven in the premiership, young, French international, could hold his own as part of a midfield two and create. If they could get him for 20 – 25 million it would be a good piece of business. But maybe it have somebody out there on the radar for that spot who they could get much cheaper.

A Modric/Cabaye type midfielder – an attacking midfielder (Gaitan, Hazard) or even a big striker (Cavani would be a dream but there is no chance)  – and a left-back as cover/competition for Evra and things will be golden.

Baines good but Everton does want to dig out people eye for they players (rightfully so). They must have some foreign player out there who giving yuh more value.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on April 30, 2012, 07:40:30 AM
JDB -  Sneijder is overrated.  Guy has kicking technique to burn, but his game not that varied...pivot and big diagonal ball over the top - that's his game.  Guy had his 15 mins where things were real clickin' for him (Mourinho last season at Inter, and into the World Cup Summer) and I will not lie, I didn't want Madrid to let him go but the fella overrated... He knows how to pop up in the right places as an impact player, but he not a steady creative threat....watch him close.... he's bleh.

Baines is a next one - good going forward - shaky coming back.  If allyuh want a Dani Alves kinda wing back (who is a really a deep lying winger) then fine...I eh know if United set up to play like that though...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on April 30, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
JDB -  Sneijder is overrated.  Guy has kicking technique to burn, but his game not that varied...pivot and big diagonal ball over the top - that's his game.  Guy had his 15 mins where things were real clickin' for him (Mourinho last season at Inter, and into the World Cup Summer) and I will not lie, I didn't want Madrid to let him go but the fella overrated... He knows how to pop up in the right places as an impact player, but he not a steady creative threat....watch him close.... he's bleh.

Baines is a next one - good going forward - shaky coming back.  If allyuh want a Dani Alves kinda wing back (who is a really a deep lying winger) then fine...I eh know if United set up to play like that though...


Yuh don’t have to convince me on Sneijder. Think he works well in a very specific set-up 4-2-3-1 and his goals does catch the eye. Worked for Inter and for Holland. I didn’t want to say this earlier because I ent see him much this season, and stats could be nonesense but Inter have better results without him rather than with him this season. But the real stickler would be the money Sneider would need about 400,000 pounds a week to match his money at Inter. Utter madness.

Agree on Baines too but he would be step up on Evra because Evra also runs up the pitch with abandon. It have men out there yuh could get to play a goo dleft-back for much less than Baines. Much better to get somebody to transition in while competing with Evra IMO.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 06, 2012, 08:26:03 AM
Lawd , man the ship , we going in hard  :duel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 06, 2012, 08:31:51 AM
GO SWANSEA
jus doin' mih part. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 06, 2012, 09:28:44 AM
9 more needed   :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 06, 2012, 09:45:33 AM
8 more
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 06, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 06, 2012, 11:04:57 AM
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 06, 2012, 11:19:39 AM
 :praying:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 06, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...

Hughes is one thing but none of the players have them particular motivating forces. While every city man have something to play for.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 06, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...

Hughes is one thing but none of the players have them particular motivating forces. While every city man have something to play for.


Hughes and Fergie doh pull. So I eh expecting nothing much there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 06, 2012, 08:18:34 PM
Not terribly useful results for United. A Bolton win or QPR draw or loss woulda be in order. All QPR need next week is a draw to stay up. Would even get by with a loss if Stoke wooding Bolton.

Mark Hughes would have a chance to do his former manager from his playing days a huge favour and win or draw at City next week. Also, would be a chance to stick it the club he was unceremoniously fired from a few seasons ago.

This would his chance to achieve payback...

Mark Hughes not playing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 07, 2012, 10:35:32 AM
 Fergie is reminding Mark Hughes of his sacking from Man City and the fact that QPR will be motivated to stay up....exactly what I thought he'd do.

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Fergie eyes Spark of inspiration
May 7, 2012

By ESPN staff

Sir Alex Ferguson is banking on Mark Hughes coming back to haunt Manchester City on the final day of the Premier League season.

City lead Ferguson's Manchester United on goal difference with one game to play and are long odds-on to take the title as they face Queens Park Rangers on the final day.

The hope for United, who meet Sunderland in their final game, is that QPR are spurred on by their own battle against relegation and are inspired by Hughes who was axed by City in acrimonious circumstances.

"QPR need a point and they're fighting for survival," Ferguson said. "The whole future of the club could be resting on the game and I only wish Sparky was playing.

"But Mark knows his job all right. He was sacked by City in a very unethical way and he'll remember that."

Ferguson has a passion for horse racing and is hoping for a dramatic moment similar to the 1956 Grand National when Devon Loch fell just yards from the line with the race in the bag.

"There could be a Devon Loch. You never know," said Ferguson. "Stranger things have happened in this game of football.

"They're red-hot favourites but we've won the title on three occasions on the last day and we don't mind doing it again."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1064668/manchester-united%27s-sir-alex-ferguson-eyes-spark-of-inspiration?cc=5901
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 07, 2012, 10:42:27 AM
5-4-1 bunker style for Qpr
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on May 07, 2012, 10:45:47 AM
Also expect Sunderland to just lay down and get raped! I don't trust them! Interesting last day it would be!

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on May 07, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
Man City will buss dey tail.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 07, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
I think the commentator this weekend said that the last time City won the title they beat Newcastle on the last day, and Man U lost to Sunderland...Not an exact repeat but pretty darn close for the superstitious ones out there. 

Study if Man U had to beat QPR at home to seal the deal, there'd be no question about it - goes to show how far a reputation goes. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 07, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
5-4-1 bunker style for Qpr
With Cisse up top terrorizing City defense!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 07, 2012, 02:32:13 PM
I saw on another site the kit for the next season, it's in honor of Fergie...That thing look rell shitty..It looks like old time table cloth with its faded plad design. Someone please tell meh that I was wrong, cause I refuse to buy that shit!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on May 08, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
whats goin on with pogba? he's leaving for juve or not? and what kind of midfielder is he? i havent seen much other that whats on youtube. is he a deep lying playmaker bringing the ball out from the back? or cobative box to box midfielder?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
(http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/news/9514/1.jpg)

(http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/news/9514/2.jpg)

(http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/news/9514/3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2012, 11:37:26 AM
Thank goodness, Nike and The Glazers have not, will not get my money! F*ck both of them! Everything about that kit screams cheap and shitty!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 11, 2012, 01:13:59 PM
Nah man! I watching dat new kit and feeling hungry!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kicker on May 11, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
Nah man! I watching dat new kit and feeling hungry!

why? because it look like a tablecloth?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 11, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
On a positive note.. congrats to the reserve team for winning the reserve league!!

Reserves' national glory

Sam Johnstone was the hero as United won the Barclays Premier Reserve League play-off final  with a 3-1 defeat of Aston Villa on penalties after a goalless draw.

Most of the chances came in the second period but the Reds had to settle for a third 0-0 draw in succession at this level, meaning a shoot-out was required to decide the victors at Old Trafford. Johnstone made three stunning saves - from Samir Carruthers, Danny Johnson and Courtney Cameron - to ensure the Reds lifted the trophy. Joshua King, with a slice of good fortune, Jesse Lingard and Will Keane gave the hosts a 100 percent record from the spot.

The first half disappointed in terms of entertainment with both sides taking time to get to grips with the occasion although Will Keane had a half-hearted penalty shout turned down by referee Neil Swarbrick after being pushed by Nathan Baker inside the box. Ryan Tunnicliffe snapped into a couple of bone-crunching tackles and Michael Keane also impressed in defence but Villa carved out a couple of openings as the interval approached.

Michael Drennan's shot was deflected off target by Sam Johnstone when a Danny Johnson cross fell to him and Samir Carruthers found himself in the clear after a one-two but finished poorly. The second half was far more open with substitutes Marnick Vermijl and Robbie Brady making in-roads down the right.

Brady fed the overlapping Vermijl who crossed invitingly but Will Keane could only place his finish wide when a goal seemed on the cards. A Brady cross was fisted away by Benjamin Siegrist with Will Keane lurking but Villa hit back with Gary Gardner's free-kick flying inches off target. Gardner eally should have broken the deadlock when somehow spurning a chance created by Johnson and Enda Stevens but United then responded with more pressure of their own.

Brady shot too high after good play by Jesse Lingard and Will Keane and Lingard then saw a shot deflect onto the top of the net following a Tunnicliffe lay-off. Tunnicliffe and King had further efforts while Josh Webb got his finish all wrong after being presented with a decent opportunity on the right-hand side of the area.

Scott Wootton, who had headed past his own post with a clearance at the start of the second half, could not keep his shot down after being picked out by Lingard as penalties loomed. But there was a stirring finale with Johnstone scrambling away a Gardner header and then blocking another shot from the midfielder. In the dying seconds, Lingard did well to pull a Brady pass out of the air but saw his powerful drive beaten away by Siegrist's best save of the night.

Then came the drama which ended in United's favour - thanks largely to Johnstone's heroics, which gave the supporters something to cheer and means it is now full steam ahead to the Manchester Senior Cup final at Manchester City and the chance of more silverware next Thursday.

United: Johnstone; Fornasier (Vermijl 46), M.Keane, Wootton, Fryers; Cole, Thorpe (Brady 50), Tunnicliffe, Petrucci (King 71), Lingard; W.Keane. Subs not used: Coll, Giverin.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2012/May/manchester-united-v-aston-villa-reserves-report.aspx?pageNo=2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on May 12, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
 ;D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/314097_411808095526079_345971365443086_1271842_1931135436_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577658_412016465505242_345971365443086_1272436_1108300369_n.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2012, 12:08:14 PM
Lol..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
Watching this game now, that Japanese player in some real poison

Ferguson in Berlin to watch Manchester United target Kagawa

Old Trafford club are rumoured to be front-runners in the race to capture the Japanese star's signature this summer, and the Scottish boss is in attendance at the German cup-final

Goal.com exclusively revealed in April that the current Premier League champions were lining up a bid to take the Japanese attacker to England, and Dortmund have hinted recently that the 23-year-old would be heading for the exit door this summer.

Kagawa's contract expires in a little over a year, and Dortmund have stated that he will not sign an extension to his current deal, so are likely to cash in on their talented youngster in the coming transfer window.

The Japanese midfielder arrived in Germany after the 2010 World Cup for a fee well below £1 million, and is expected to fetch upwards of £10m this year.

He has scored nine times in 29 international appearances for Japan, and has now scored 22 times in 50 appearances for the German club, including his opener in the cup final, after which Arjen Robben equalised from the penalty spot.

Mats Hummels scored Dortmund's second, also from 12 yards, before Kagawa laid on an assist for Robert Lewandowski to put the Bundesliga champions 3-1 up.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/12/3098329/ferguson-in-berlin-to-watch-manchester-united-target-kagawa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 12, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
Kagawa should go Italy or maybe Valencia.  Man U is shit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Kagawa should go Italy or maybe Valencia.  Man U is shit.

Haters gonna hate
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 13, 2012, 08:22:07 AM
Rooney 1nil , BELIEVE!!!  :praying:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2012, 08:44:08 AM
Rooney 1nil , BELIEVE!!!  :praying:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 13, 2012, 09:09:04 AM
Say yuh prayers men
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 13, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Condolences to the Man Utd faithful on here.

Man Utd did very well to push Man City all the way down to stoppage time at the Etihad on the final day of the season.

Man Utd is a great club with a proud history and Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the greatest managers in the history of English football.

Congratulations to the Man Utd team on a superb end to Utd's season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 13, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
Glory glory!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO


 where is everybody ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 13, 2012, 10:46:30 AM
It's been a frustrating run an in the end we fall short, we will return next season stronger and better. United for life!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 13, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
One of the SHITTIEST United teams in recent memory carry dis down to the wire? I dunno if to laugh or cry.  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
One of the SHITTIEST United teams in recent memory carry dis down to the wire? I dunno if to laugh or cry.  :frustrated:

oh oooo poor baby :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 13, 2012, 11:08:50 AM
What a season!! F@*k City lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 13, 2012, 11:14:30 AM
Condolences to the Man Utd faithful on here.

Man Utd did very well to push Man City all the way down to stoppage time at the Etihad on the final day of the season.

Man Utd is a great club with a proud history and Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the greatest managers in the history of English football.

Congratulations to the Man Utd team on a superb end to Utd's season.

 Amen.  Now, let's feast!  :devil: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 13, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
Hardluck United faithfuls we let it slip away from us and don't have no one else to blame...congrats to City on a hell of a season :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on May 13, 2012, 11:56:38 AM
One of the SHITTIEST United teams in recent memory carry dis down to the wire? I dunno if to laugh or cry.  :frustrated:

oh oooo poor baby :(

hahaha Why you so?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 13, 2012, 12:01:28 PM
One of the SHITTIEST United teams in recent memory carry dis down to the wire? I dunno if to laugh or cry.  :frustrated:

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwltqhA7R1qzj7lm.png)

Hard luck man, maybe next season   ;)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 13, 2012, 01:04:27 PM
The only thing I can look forward too is Bayern beating Chelsea, so they won't be in CL next season... That will the only thing I could smile about... F@*k City. Just like Abramovic* they buy the trophy. They will catch they arse for the next 20 years like Chelski the FA cup winners. Trophy less season for us.... That will give us time to extend our trophy room for next year's treble hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 13, 2012, 01:22:02 PM
The only thing I can look forward too is Bayern beating Chelsea, so they won't be in CL next season... That will the only thing I could smile about... F@*k City. Just like Abramovic* they buy the trophy. They will catch they arse for the next 20 years like Chelski the FA cup winners. Trophy less season for us.... That will give us time to extend our trophy room for next year's treble hahaha

(http://www.memes.at/pics/haters%20gonna%20hate.png)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 13, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
One of the SHITTIEST United teams in recent memory carry dis down to the wire? I dunno if to laugh or cry.  :frustrated:

oh oooo poor baby :(

hahaha Why you so?

me eh know nah ???  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on May 13, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
BEEP, BEEP!!!  SPECIAL DELIVERY.....



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 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 13, 2012, 03:38:27 PM
I buying one ah dem tablecloth shirt as soon as I can.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 13, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
Nah man! I watching dat new kit and feeling hungry!

why? because it look like a tablecloth?
Exactly!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 13, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Congratulation to Citeh-they scored, defended and won when they needed to. We didn't score, didn't defend and lost when we needed to. The story of our season-not good enough when it mattered.

On to next season-the challenge is on! I wouldn't mind them selling Rooney-think he is on his way down!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 14, 2012, 06:50:27 AM
Congrats to city, hopefully the league will be more competitive. However, how many teams can shell out that amount of money for players to win the league?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 14, 2012, 07:20:48 AM
Congrats to city, hopefully the league will be more competitive. However, how many teams can shell out that amount of money for players to win the league?

lol @ d sig
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 14, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Condolences to the Man Utd faithful on here.

Man Utd did very well to push Man City all the way down to stoppage time at the Etihad on the final day of the season.

Man Utd is a great club with a proud history and Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the greatest managers in the history of English football.

Congratulations to the Man Utd team on a superb end to Utd's season.

Thank you.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on May 15, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
So there was that earlier article with Gaitan, Ferguson observed watching Kagawa and strong rumors about James Rodriquez.

Plus Hazard apparently proclaim that he going to either City or United.

Any one of these will be a good addition.

Scholes re-sign for a year but still no talk about a deep-lying playmaker to replace him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on May 15, 2012, 09:10:36 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 15, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
Another year for Scholes yes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 15, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
So there was that earlier article with Gaitan, Ferguson observed watching Kagawa and strong rumors about James Rodriquez.

Plus Hazard apparently proclaim that he going to either City or United.

Any one of these will be a good addition.

Scholes re-sign for a year but still no talk about a deep-lying playmaker to replace him.

Not hopeful about midfield reinforcements. In this article, Ferguson seems to think that Carrick is the answer  >:(

I wonder sometimes what he sees on the field, especially the bit about them never been overrun...


http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe....aspx?pageNo=1

Boss clear on midfield

Sir Alex has reacted to the suggestion that he should be looking to invest in a holding midfielder during the close season.

The Manchester United boss has explained that he has never used a player to fill that specific role and cited Barcelona’s former Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas as evidence that the most effective performers in the middle of the park need not be destroyers.

“If you look at the examples, Fabregas was one of the best midfield players in England for five years but he wasn’t a big lad and wasn’t a holding player,” said Sir Alex. “He was an attacking player. Xavi and [Andres] Iniesta are small players – you can’t call them holding players.

"I don’t think we’ve had a holding player since I’ve been here. We’ve never had a holding player.

“We tried to get Roy Keane to do that but he just couldn’t do it. He had to play a way that was his own way of playing, so I’ve not had it for 25 years. Why should I think about it now?”

In terms of midfield options, the manager expects Michael Carrick to build on a fine personal campaign and flourish with increased responsibility in the coming years.

“I think Michael Carrick has had his best season at the club,” he added. “I’m very hopeful now he will have an authority that will stand us in good stead for the next two or three years. That will be an important role for Michael, to replace Paul Scholes in that department.

“I always think he starts the season slowly but when we started putting him and Scholes together all the time, it’s a sensible combination in terms of both using the ball and their ability to take the ball. It gave us a central part of the pitch that was very strong.

"I haven’t seen them over-run. Against [Manchester] City, they were the best two players we had."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on May 15, 2012, 01:20:16 PM
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Nice!! :chilling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 15, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
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Aye what kinda behaviour is this, Stueps.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 15, 2012, 04:46:32 PM
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Is de kit for NEXT season. Do the maths.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 15, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
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Is de kit for NEXT season. Do the maths.

Haha good come back...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Big Magician on May 15, 2012, 11:31:47 PM
fu#k it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 17, 2012, 07:40:50 AM
Manchester United's net debt up by £26m as income falls nearly 6%

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/17/manchester-united-debt-glazers

Manchester United's net debt has risen by £26m and total revenue is down 5.8%, according to quarterly figures released by the club. The figures also reveal that the Glazer family spent the equivalent of more than £250,000 a day – which amounts to Wayne Rooney's weekly salary – on a £71m buyback of bonds and on interest payments over the past nine months.

Critics of the club's American owners argue such money should be spent on buying players and the revelations will cause further anger among fans, who view the heavy leveraging of United by the Glazers as affecting their ability to compete with Manchester City, the new champions, in the transfer market.

While United's accounts say gross debt has dropped by £61.2m from £484.5m to £423.3m, a 12.6% reduction, this is countered by the club's cash falling from £113m to £25.6m – a reduction of £87.4m – meaning the former champions are £26m worse off than 12 months ago.

The 5.8% fall in total revenue – from £75.2m to £70.8m – reflects United's exit from the Champions League at the group stage.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2012, 08:00:19 AM
Owen has not been offered a new contract
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 17, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
Owen has not been offered a new contract
And rightly so..too injury prone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 17, 2012, 10:15:34 AM
Ferguson wants to rebuild his Manchester United team again
Big offer made for Kagawa, Lewandowski and Hummel
Eden Hazard, his first reinforcement
D. RUIZ 05/15/2012
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After the fiasco of losing out on the Premier league in dramatic style, Ferguson has started to wave his magic wand and rebuild his team for the umpteenth time at the helm of Manchester United. The Scot will be closely monitoring the summer transfer market for the reinforcements he needs to revitalise his team, which has become far too dependent on Wayne Rooney and his goals.
Ferguson has been watching Borussia Dortmund, and is apparently considering making an offer to the current German champion for three of its players: Kagawa (from Japan), Lewandowski (Poland) and Hummels (Germany). According to the British press, the club is prepared to put up €62 million. However, the Rhur-based club has no intention to sell the German international centre-half or its goal-scorer.
The situation with Kagawa, however, is different. Dortmund confirmed recently that he will leave the club this summer, although at the moment his destination is unknown. Ferguson sees the Japanese player as the ideal back-up for Paul Scholes, who renewed his contract for another year yesterday. One player who will be playing for the Red Devils next year is the Belgian, Eden Hazard, after announcing that he will sign for the club last night.
http://www.marca.com/2012/05/15/en/football/international_football/1337101667.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2012, 11:44:02 AM
Bring in the artillery, is war now!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 17, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
United Reserves vs. Man City Reserves on now
1 - 0 to United at half time. Pogba's on the field. Will Keane with the goal. Good striker, that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on May 17, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
United Reserves vs. Man City Reserves on now
1 - 0 to United at half time. Pogba's on the field. Will Keane with the goal. Good striker, that.

wa he doin dey?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 05, 2012, 05:15:21 AM
Shinji Kagawa from Dortmund... Transfer complete. :) that's it fergie bring in the fire power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18262878
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on June 05, 2012, 12:49:35 PM
Shinji Kagawa from Dortmund... Transfer complete. :) that's it fergie bring in the fire power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18262878

firepower whey? he decent but let us see how he handles the transition
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 12, 2012, 12:34:07 PM
Nick Powell from Crewe Alexandra

 http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2012/06/manchester-united-nick-powell-sir-alex-ferguson/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on June 13, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Nick Powell from Crewe Alexandra

 http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2012/06/manchester-united-nick-powell-sir-alex-ferguson/
Don't know much about him, except for the few clips of him on YouTube. He seems to have a nice shot on him. Gibson's replacement? ( maybe)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 23, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on June 23, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
A Japanese waiter... what are we having, sushi?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 23, 2012, 08:39:03 PM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on July 03, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
No movement on Berbatov (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1122452/no-news-on-man-united's-dimitar-berbatov,-paul-pogba-criticised?cc=5901)
By ESPN staff

Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed there is currently no deal in the pipeline which would see Dimitar Berbatov leave Manchester United, but confirmed Paul Pogba is to join Juventus and hit out at a lack of respect from the French midfielder.

Berbatov has become increasingly marginalised at Old Trafford and started only three matches after the turn of the year with a further three appearances from the bench. Despite sharing the Premier League golden boot with Carlos Tevez in 2010-11, he made only 12 league appearances last season though still managed to score seven goals.

Although Berbatov was out of contract this summer United had a year's extension in their favour, which means the club will hope to recoup at least some of the £30.75 million fee they paid to Tottenham Hotspur four years ago.

There had been interest in the 31-year-old from clubs in the Bundesliga, where Berbatov spent five successful seasons with Bayer Leverkusen, but there have been no concrete offers. Turkish club Galatasaray have indicated they want to sign the striker too.

"I don't think I treated Dimitar unfairly but he can feel disappointed that he didn't get more football," he told MUTV. "He's a fantastic footballer. It wasn't a great season for him last season, partly because I settled more with Wayne Rooney and Danny Welbeck... and Chicharito [Javier Hernandez].

"He's a fantastic talent. Nothing has happened with Dimitar and he'll join the tour to South Africa and China."

United's pre-season tour begins with two games in South Africa against AmaZulu FC and Ajax Cape Town before they move on to China to face Shanghai Shenhua, Norway where they will play Valerenga, Sweden to take on Barcelona and finishing in Germany against Hannover 96.

Although Berbatov remains a United player for now, there is still the chance that he could leave over the course of the transfer window.

Pogba, meanwhile, is to join Juventus after the Serie A champions' long pursuit for his services. Sir Alex was fuming about the player's conduct, saying: "Paul Pogba signed for Juventus a long time ago as far as we're aware. I don't think he showed us any respect at all.

"I'm quite happy that if they carry on that way, they're probably better doing it away from us.''

Another promising young player, Ezekiel Fryers, is also out of contract and although he has been offered a new deal the Red Devils are currently in the dark as to whether he will return.

"We haven't heard anything from Zeki Fryers,'' Sir Alex added. "I don't know what's happening there but he's not been in touch with the club. His agent hasn't been in touch with the club and I can only assume he'll be back for training.''

Sir Alex brought Pogba into the first team picture in March as rumours of a move to Italy grew. But it became clear that was not enough to keep the France Under-19 international, who United signed from Le Havre in 2009, and he did not feature in the first team squad again after being an unused substitute against Wigan on April 11.

There could yet be more new faces coming in, following on from the signings of Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund and Nick Powell from Crewe Alexandra.

"Yes, there's a possibility," said Sir Alex. "We're working on one or two things but there's nothing really to tell you to be honest.

"We always try to get our work done at the end of the season - we spent a good deal of time sorting the deal with Shinji and we'd agreed a deal with Nick Powell before the play-offs which was a good move by us because the boy had an outstanding final at Wembley.

"When you don't get deals done immediately and you're negotiating with a club over a long period, then you can't expect to just snap your fingers and get it done."

Title: Manchester United plans to go public. In the United States, to boot.
Post by: zuluwarrior on July 03, 2012, 04:44:24 PM
Manchester United files for IPO in US
NEW YORK, Tue Jul 03, 05:55 PM
Manchester United plans to go public. In the United States, to boot.

The record 19-time English champions filed a registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Tuesday to hold an initial public offering of stock and become a listed company on the New York Stock Exchange.

While the stock price and the number of shares were not listed, the registration statement said the club hoped to raise a maximum of $100 million.

The Glazer family, which bought the club in 2005, would retain control over the club through Class B shares, which would have 10 times the voting power of the shares that would be sold to the public.

Under the reorganization, the team would become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Manchester United Ltd., a newly formed holding company based in the Cayman Islands.

The team was listed on the London Stock Exchange from 1991 until June 2005, when Glazer completed a leveraged buyout valued at $1.47 billion. Glazer also owns the NFL's Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

United has been looking to raise funds to help reduce debts from the 2005 takeover that were 423 million pounds ($663 million) as of March 31.

A $1 billion offering on the Singapore stock market was pursued last year, but the plans were halted due to volatile global markets.



 
The team, European champions in 1968, 1999 and 2009, has been valued at $2.24 billion by Forbes magazine, ranking it as soccer's most valuable club for the eighth year in a row in April. The Red Devils were on track to their 20th league title this year, taking an eight-point lead in the final weeks of the season. But crosstown rival Manchester City, which became soccer's biggest spender following its purchase by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates, won the title on goal difference on the final day of the season.

Manchester United said that it had a loss from continuing operations of $47.5 million in the year ending June 30, 2009, then had profits of $13 million and $13.3 million in the following two years. It said it had a profit of $38.2 million in the nine months ending March 31.

Some warnings were included in the filing, with the team saying "our indebtedness could adversely affect our financial health and competitive position" and "recently approved UEFA restrictions could negatively affect our business."

European soccer's governing body is phasing in spending restrictions over several seasons, known as Financial Fair Play.

Managers of the offering are Jefferies & Co. Inc., Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC, J.P. Morgan Securities LLC, BofA Merrill Lynch and Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.

Several other Premier League teams have U.S. owners, including Arsenal (controlled by Stan Kroenke), Liverpool (by the parent company of the Boston Red Sox), Aston Villa (Randy Lerner) and Sunderland (Ellis Short).

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AP Sports Writer Rob Harris in London contributed to this report.



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Title: Re: Manchester United plans to go public. In the United States, to boot.
Post by: Deeks on July 03, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
I hope Manu pay close attention to the proud and mighty Rangers.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 09, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
Park Ji-Sung to QPR
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on July 09, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Park Ji-Sung to QPR

 :-\ :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on July 11, 2012, 08:50:04 AM
JULY 10, 2012, 2:32 PM
In Manchester United’s I.P.O., a Preference for American Rules


By STEVEN M. DAVIDOFF

Manchester United, the English soccer team with an adoring fan base in Europe and Asia, is filing to go public in the United States.

But the initial public offering is not a reflection of Americans' increasing love of soccer. Instead, it is a reflection of American regulators' light touch.

I'm not kidding. The United States, which has long been criticized for its harsh rules surrounding I.P.O.'s, is now the place where foreign companies go to avoid regulation.

Manchester United may be the world's most popular soccer club, with 659 million fans according to the team's own estimates. In 2005, the American businessman Malcolm Glazer and his family bought control of the team, loading it up with hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. Now, the company is selling shares to raise money and reduce its debt, which stands at about $655 million.

But the Glazers do not want to give up voting control since, among other reasons, Manchester United fans appear eager to buy back the team from the still-unpopular family. In 2010, a prominent group of Manchester United fans were said to have tried to form a consortium to repurchase the club. The Glazers have uniformly given the same response: the team is not for sale. Now, the Glazers are venue-shopping for their stock.

They passed over the Hong Kong Stock Exchange because it would not give the team a waiver to allow two classes of shares, with different voting rights. The London Stock Exchange also does not allow such share structures, perhaps the reason this natural home was skipped over by the Glazers.

Manchester United declined to comment for this article.

The Singapore Exchange seemed more amenable to the Glazers' plan to list Manchester United and keep control through a dual-class structure. But after the exchange delayed final signoff on the dual-class shares and the Asian markets cooled, the Singapore plans were derailed, according to an article in Reuters.

The soccer team has recently found a home for its stock in the United States. Manchester United filed the papers this month for its initial public offering on the New York Stock Exchange, and the Glazers are taking advantage of the country's willingness to be more flexible when it comes to shareholder rights. Manchester United is proposing a corporate structure that would give the Glazers shares with 10 votes apiece. Public investors would receive one vote for each share.

While the Securities and Exchange Commission tried to ban this type of dual-class voting stock in the 1980s, a federal appeals court struck down the rules. Since then, the structure has become increasingly common. Facebook, LinkedIn and Google all have dual-class shares. The New York Times also has a dual-class voting structure. In 2011, 28 offerings featured dual-class structures that gave greater voting rights to certain shareholders, according to the research firm Dealogic.

The Manchester United offering is a case study in how the American markets have evolved toward deregulation in the past decade.

The company is a beneficiary of the newly enacted Jumpstart Our Business Start-Ups Act, known as the JOBS Act, designed to help private companies raise capital and go public. Although the team was founded in 1878, the JOBS Act classifies Manchester United as an emerging growth company since it has less than $1 billion in revenue. As such, the company, which is incorporated in the Cayman Islands, does not face the same hurdles as American businesses.

The JOBS Act builds on earlier efforts by the S.E.C. to loosen the rules governing I.P.O.'s of foreign companies. Under pressure from stock exchanges and other market players, the agency has exempted foreign issuers like Manchester United from large parts of American securities laws.

Manchester United will not need to file quarterly reports, report material events, file proxy statements or disclose extensive compensation information, all of which American companies must do. Under a different S.E.C. rule adopted in 2008, Manchester United also does not need to report financials under the generally accepted accounting principles used in the United States, but can instead rely on international financial reporting standards.

Because Manchester United will be a controlled company, it does not need to follow the New York Stock Exchange rules adopted in 2003 that require a public company to have a board composed mainly of independent directors. The board of Manchester United will have four directors, two of Malcolm Glazer's sons and two executives of the company.

The legal environment, which investment bankers and lawyers have long argued deterred I.P.O.'s, also appears to be more conducive. This may be because securities litigation reforms put in place by Congress and the Supreme Court have meant fewer cases in recent years. Even after the financial crisis, only 16 companies on the Standard & Poor's 500 were subject to this type of litigation in 2011, the lowest number since 2000, according to the Stanford Securities Class Action Clearinghouse.

It's all a bit unsettling.

After the enactment of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in 2002, critics claimed that the new regulation was driving away foreign companies, although at least one academic study rebutted this claim. But as regulators have slowly loosened the rules, the American markets are attracting foreign issuers seeking watered-down rules.

This does not mean that this deregulation is wrongheaded.

The JOBS Act and other initiatives may not have been designed to attract the likes of Manchester United, but such I.P.O.'s do provide work for investment bankers, lawyers and the exchanges. They also build up American prestige by bringing well-known foreign companies to the United States.

At the same time, the deregulation effort means lower compliance costs for businesses. Presumably, that extra money can be invested, bolstering the economy.

The question is whether deregulation is worth the price.

I have little sympathy for investors who buy Manchester United shares. The risks are mainly disclosed.

The bigger question is whether lowering the bar for foreign issuers will come back to haunt the American markets.

Even before the JOBS Act, Chinese companies took advantage of new S.E.C. rules and started going public en masse in the United States. While some of the I.P.O.'s have worked out, there are now more than 100 newly public Chinese companies facing accusations of fraud by either investors or regulators.

The risk is that American exchanges will become more like London's Alternative Investment Market, a lightly regulated stock exchange that has fostered some spectacular flops. If so, investors may lose faith in American markets, and the United States may end up sacrificing long-term stature for short-term gain.

Either way, the next time someone calls the American markets overregulated, you might want to point them to the Manchester United I.P.O. - and remind them that the English soccer club came to the United States to avoid more burdensome foreign rules.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/in-manchester-uniteds-i-p-o-a-preference-for-u-s-rules/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on July 11, 2012, 09:21:08 AM
Like the author I can’t understand why individual investor would partake in this IPO. No dividends, no voting rights, it is like a 0% interest bond yuh buying. You could make money off the share price based on the club’s success but the Glazers have no responsibility to a minority shareholder. Or the Glazers could undervalue the shares at IPO but I doubt that will happen.

A more likely investment is to hold on until they eventually sell the club. But even if you look at it as a long-term bond type investment you have to consider the risk inherent in the Glazers history of profiteering at the club’s expense.

I torn because I would like to see the debt financing go down so that club profits don’t get sucked into the Glazers’ money pit. If they could clear off 450M of debt United’s balance sheet would be fantastic. The problems are how much funds will go to the debt. They will siphon off some for personal use and pay penalties/interest on any debt that gets paid down.

A bigger problem is the way this is being done. The Glazers show with the takeover, the attempted HK float and now this that they will skirt every rule possible for personal gain. They win big when they get United for NOTHING, and now they will be winning again by getting out of the situation, again with zero personal cost.

Perhaps I should be too concerned. In a sense United done get hosed by the Glazers, if they advantage some investors on this deal at least it should be less pain for United in the future.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 11, 2012, 03:59:48 PM
How much they estimated to raise with this IPO?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on July 11, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
Like the author I can’t understand why individual investor would partake in this IPO. No dividends, no voting rights, it is like a 0% interest bond yuh buying. You could make money off the share price based on the club’s success but the Glazers have no responsibility to a minority shareholder. Or the Glazers could undervalue the shares at IPO but I doubt that will happen.

Nah, under dual-class shareholding you still get dividends, but holders of preferred stock get paid before holders of ordinary stock.  You also still get a vote for each share held.  Preferred stock holders can have more votes per share though, and in this case the Glazers would have 10x the voting power which means even if they held as little as 6% of the shares (which in reality would never be that low, since they are controlling owners) they could never be defeated on any vote.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on July 14, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Like the author I can’t understand why individual investor would partake in this IPO. No dividends, no voting rights, it is like a 0% interest bond yuh buying. You could make money off the share price based on the club’s success but the Glazers have no responsibility to a minority shareholder. Or the Glazers could undervalue the shares at IPO but I doubt that will happen.

Nah, under dual-class shareholding you still get dividends, but holders of preferred stock get paid before holders of ordinary stock.  You also still get a vote for each share held.  Preferred stock holders can have more votes per share though, and in this case the Glazers would have 10x the voting power which means even if they held as little as 6% of the shares (which in reality would never be that low, since they are controlling owners) they could never be defeated on any vote.

Yeah I understand that you can still get dividends but the Glazers' have complete control and the the prospectus states that there are no plans for giving dividends. With the way the Glazers' work and the outstanding debt it was kinda clear that they weren't going to give dividends anyway. Why service a debt when yuh done get the money for free.

I agree that the voting rights are practically zero. They also set it up that future class A shares can be instantly converted to class B upon sale. So even if they sell more shares after the IPO they don't affect the voting structure appreciably.

Another damning assessment of this IPO

Manchester United's U.S. IPO may be a tough sell (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/14/us-manchesterunited-ipo-idUSBRE86D04C20120714)

(Reuters) - Manchester United may be one of the most supported sports teams in the world but that doesn't mean the soccer club is going to find many investors with an appetite for its planned initial public offering in the United States.

Fund managers who have looked at its preliminary prospectus have been either negative or lukewarm on the prospect of buying shares in the club, which is controlled by the Florida-based Glazer family.

They say Manchester United faces significant financial risks given its 423 million pounds of debt ($658 million), and the very structure of the business puts its customers, the fans, at odds with shareholders.

Some are concerned that the U.S. stock market hasn't had many sports team listings, let alone any European soccer clubs, so there isn't much to compare Manchester United against

"With a sports franchise, it's a constant tug of war between player salaries cost and the rest of the operation," said Wallace Weitz, president and portfolio manager at Weitz Funds in Omaha, Nebraska, which holds stakes in Liberty Media Corp, Walt Disney Corp and Comcast Corp.

Manchester United declined to comment and representatives for the Glazers could not be immediately reached.

Like many sports franchises, the team's success on the pitch is largely contingent on its ability to spend cash on players - through both transfer fees and high wages.

While there have been some signs in the past year that transfer spending by top English clubs is being reined in, the pressure on a leading club like Manchester United to spend heavily in an attempt to stay a top team remains. That spending can eat up profits rapidly and lead to volatile financial results.

At the same time, if a club like Manchester United cuts costs and doesn't go into the market for expensive new players, the value of its brand can be at risk. That may not happen to a top club overnight - with just one weak season - but over a few years the value of everything from TV rights to sales of club merchandise can be hit.

Manchester United had a weak season by its own standards in 2011-12, failing to win any silverware, though it missed out on the English title by a hair's breadth.

"The deal is a strong vanity play in terms of being part of a winning franchise but whether or not that mystique around the team translates to money for shareholders I doubt it," said Jeff Sica, president and chief investment officer of Sica Wealth Management in Morristown, New Jersey, which manages over $1 billion in assets. "The chances of shareholders making money on this is very little."

To be sure, many investors will not make a final decision until they know how many shares the company will sell and at what price. The timing of the IPO is also unclear.

COMPARISONS DIFFICULT

But doing a valuation analysis will not be easy even when the price is known because of the lack of comparable public companies in the U.S. The media, sports and entertainment group Madison Square Garden Co owns the New York Knicks basketball team and Rangers ice hockey team, media and entertainment company Liberty Media owns the Atlanta Braves baseball team and cable giant Comcast Corp owns the Philadelphia Flyers ice hockey team, but none are pure sports plays as they own many other assets.

"There's just not a lot of data out there," said Mark Donovan, a portfolio manager with Boston-based Robeco Investment Management which owns shares of Disney and Comcast. "Sports franchises have been the playgrounds of rich entrepreneurs who want a big expensive toy to play with but I don't really know if they pass the test for return on investment."

Teams that have listed in the U.S. in the past also haven't performed well for investors. The Boston Celtics, which were publicly traded for 16 years beginning in 1986, posted three straight years of losses before swinging to a profit in 2002. Shares were thinly traded and held primarily by individual investors, not institutions.

The Cleveland Indians went public in 1998 at $15 before seeing shares tank to $5.38 within four months.

Both teams have since been taken private.

And unlike these teams, Manchester United doesn't play in the United States - other than for occasional exhibition games in the summer months. It may have a sizable armchair fan base in the United States who watch English games on TV but that isn't comparable to the almost religious nature of the support in the U.K.

RED FLAGS

One particular problem is that some of the legendary English club's millions of fans around the world have shown a rabid dislike for the Glazers, who acquired the 134-year-old team in 2005 through a leveraged buyout. Whether through sizable demonstrations at games or comments on fan websites, they have slammed the Florida-based Glazers for loading the club up with large amounts of debt.

Another red flag is that medium-sized investment bank Jefferies Group Inc got picked to be lead underwriter on the offering only after Morgan Stanley bowed out due to concerns over the team's proposed valuation, according to sources familiar with the matter. Morgan Stanley had been set to participate in the underwriting earlier this year, when the Glazer family sought to list the team in Singapore, raising $1 billion. That plan was initially slated for 2011 but got pushed back due to market conditions.

The team also toyed with the idea of listing in Hong Kong, Reuters previously reported, but investors in the U.S. are largely seen as more accepting of the dual share structure that the Glazers wanted for the offering - a structure that allows them to retain almost complete control even after selling a large stake.

Jefferies and Morgan Stanley declined comment.

There are still a number of big banks helping to underwrite the deal, including JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Credit Suisse AG.

One concern among investors is that the team's cash balance - which it dips into to attract top players - stood at just 26 million pounds as of March 2012, down from 151 million pounds last June. The lack of plans for a dividend is another.

Its revenue rose 6 percent to 245.8 million pounds in the nine months ended in March, while its after-tax profit climbed to 38.2 million pounds from 13.3 million pounds in the year-earlier period.

However, despite the improved figures there are signs of strain. Its net finance costs in the latest nine-month period were 35 million pounds, swallowing up more than two thirds of its operating profit of 50.7 million pounds. Much of its net profit was due to a 22.5 million pounds tax credit, which is unlikely to be sustainable in the long run.

TV RIGHTS

The revenue from the sale of TV rights to its games, which comprised roughly a third of Manchester United's overall revenue in 2011, is based on contracts with the Premier League and Champions League, and are at least partially based on its players' success on the field.

Its match day revenue, meanwhile, is generated from the number of games Manchester United plays. This fluctuates based on how far the team progress in domestic cup competitions and in the knock-out stages of the Champions' League, the top competition for European clubs.

Even its most reliable revenue segment, commercial, which includes sponsorship, merchandise and apparel, could take a hit if the team has a poor season.

"Five years from now, Manchester United could fall on hard times and their attendance could drop and concessions could go down," said John Kim, a portfolio manager with Sentry Investments in Toronto, Canada which owns shares of Disney. "Generally speaking, there is a reason why most sports franchises are private."

The Glazers will keep an iron grip on the team through the dual-share structure which investors fear will give them little say in the club's affairs.

"A dual class structure is definitely a red flag," said Mohannad Aama, senior portfolio manager at Beam Capital Management in New York. "You don't know if the family really knows what they're doing or is someone doing this as a hobby."

(Reporting By Olivia Oran in New York, additional reporting by Keith Weir in London; Editing by Martin Howell, Bernard Orr)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 29, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Van Persie will move to United... if he can match Rooney on £220,000-a-week

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180583/Robin-van-Persie-wants-match-Wayne-Rooneys-wages.html

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on July 29, 2012, 09:30:28 PM
Van Persie will move to United... if he can match Rooney on £220,000-a-week

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180583/Robin-van-Persie-wants-match-Wayne-Rooneys-wages.html



Pay him please  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on July 29, 2012, 10:15:20 PM

Manchester United's U.S. IPO may be a tough sell (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/14/us-manchesterunited-ipo-idUSBRE86D04C20120714)

Just saw a headline yesterday where they have permanently put this plan on hold.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on July 30, 2012, 05:51:59 AM

Manchester United's U.S. IPO may be a tough sell (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/14/us-manchesterunited-ipo-idUSBRE86D04C20120714)

Just saw a headline yesterday where they have permanently put this plan on hold.

Yeah I saw it on Thursday or Friday. Was going to post then but then didn't bother.

Makes perfect sense because they tryiing to get something while offering absolutely nothing. Glazers want to dig out people eye, they just too damn greedy. They done get the club for free, everything else should be gravy.

With the club valued at 2B they could float a 30% stake and get 600M. All debt cleared and instead of paying 50-100M to service debt every year, they will be able to bank profit and invest in the club. I believe with that level of ownership they could buy back the shares at a future date when they are more solvent.

A stock offering like that would be oversubscribed by zealous fans and investors. Even though investors would risk the Glazers just pocketing the money people would buy for the chance to own a piece of the club again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on July 30, 2012, 11:35:02 AM
"Chevy Runs Deep"

Manchester United and GM Announce Chevrolet as Shirt Sponsor - http://wp.me/pL6jh-aqV

DETROIT and MANCHESTER, England, July 30, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- General Motors and Manchester United today announced that the world's most popular football club's shirt sponsor will be Chevrolet beginning with the 2014/2015 season. Chevrolet, the current Official Car Partner of the Club, will become only the fifth shirt sponsor in the Club's 134-year history...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on July 30, 2012, 12:07:25 PM
"Chevy Runs Deep"

Manchester United and GM Announce Chevrolet as Shirt Sponsor - http://wp.me/pL6jh-aqV

DETROIT and MANCHESTER, England, July 30, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- General Motors and Manchester United today announced that the world's most popular football club's shirt sponsor will be Chevrolet beginning with the 2014/2015 season. Chevrolet, the current Official Car Partner of the Club, will become only the fifth shirt sponsor in the Club's 134-year history...

Your bailout dollars at work... lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: JDB on July 30, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
Glazers floated 10% of the club in an after market announcement.
Expecting $300M which would value the club at $3billion.

And here's the kicker....the last prospectus was nebulous about how the money would be used. In this one they come out frankoment and say that only half going towards the debt. The next half going to the family.

Despicable.

Also with the club holding structure being moved over here they pay more tax but don't have to report financials with as much stringency. So we could expect the club to get sucked dry even more now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 02, 2012, 11:14:27 AM
Fergie is a big time Trini supporter we, check he tie ;D

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 08, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
Utd vs barca live on fsc now!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 08, 2012, 12:56:09 PM
Rooney needed tuh loosen that black girdle he wearing before he took that penalty! How the f@ck he fat and out of shape and he is a professional footballer in this day and age! He starting off the season outta shape and watch how he will be injury prone during the season.
 I hope with get Van Persi or some other proven striker, so he can stop thinking he is an automatic pick. Sweat for yuh place!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 08, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Robin van Persie: Manchester United's bid for striker stalls

Sir Alex Ferguson says Manchester United's attempts to sign Robin van Persie from Arsenal have stalled.

The Netherlands striker, 29, has 11 months left on his Arsenal contract and has declined an offer to extend his deal at Emirates Stadium.
"We've made a bid, they [Arsenal] have been trying to negotiate with other clubs," said United manager Ferguson.
"I don't have a gut feeling about it. We can't get a breakthrough with Arsenal."

read more
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19186547
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on August 09, 2012, 12:42:40 PM
 :devil:

No we not selling him to you this yr.

Any time VP go to ManU I hope vermaerlen, kosielny and song kick the shit outta him.

VP is a neemakaram.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 16, 2012, 10:42:59 AM
Welcome to the Rent Boys Club, you can have a seat next to Man City.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 17, 2012, 05:08:12 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 17, 2012, 05:30:15 AM
I don't know if I should be asking for his autograph or if I should take the pen and sign fuh mih package.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 17, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
Lol haha

Edit:

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 17, 2012, 08:46:28 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 17, 2012, 12:18:38 PM

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Ole
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 17, 2012, 01:52:31 PM
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/386790_10151033030987746_1036978155_n.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 17, 2012, 09:37:35 PM
v.Persie 2.0 Hope this version is not a flop  ::)

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 19, 2012, 09:34:07 PM
Big game tomorrow ladies and gentlemen. Let's send a message to the rest of the pack.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on August 19, 2012, 11:09:58 PM
Big game tomorrow ladies and gentlemen. Let's send a message to the rest of the pack.


Wey it showing?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 05:30:04 AM
Big game tomorrow ladies and gentlemen. Let's send a message to the rest of the pack.


Wey it showing?

Espn 2:55 pm Est
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on August 20, 2012, 09:52:11 AM
Thanks boss. Ah just see that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 12:55:33 PM
Van Persie on Bench
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on August 20, 2012, 12:56:50 PM
Online link?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 01:06:57 PM
Online link?

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/174005-everton-fc-vs-manchester-united/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/173997-everton-fc-vs-manchester-united/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/173989-everton-fc-vs-manchester-united/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/

http://www.sportwebz.com/live/173988-everton-fc-vs-manchester-united/watch/live/stream/online/free/feed/p2p/vivo/gratis/tv/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre DosSantos on August 20, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
i hope everton can play like htis for every match this season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on August 20, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
hmmm....no chicarito even on the bench.

wonder if he gone and berba staying?

LINE-UPS- Everton v Man Utd (20:00 BST)
Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Osman, Gibson, Neville, Pienaar, Fellaini, Jelavic. Subs: Mucha, Heitinga, Naismith, Gueye, Barkley, Coleman, Anichebe.

Man Utd: De Gea, Valencia, Carrick, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Cleverley, Scholes, Kagawa, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Lindegaard, Da Silva, Anderson, Berbatov, Young, van Persie, Wootton.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 01:41:09 PM
Keeper in form good sign
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre DosSantos on August 20, 2012, 01:47:58 PM
sub ronney and bring on van persie after he missed that gift of a header at almost the 45 min
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 20, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
YES!!!!!  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2012, 02:44:38 PM
Fergie time coming up now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2012, 02:53:36 PM
Fellaini engage Beast Mode. Van Persie has that familiar feeling...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on August 20, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
Remember ManU fans, if one Liverpool team fails to poison your team, the other will.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 20, 2012, 03:43:51 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 20, 2012, 04:06:45 PM
alyuh behave nah :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 04:35:20 PM
When we start off a season bad is does be a good thing.


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 20, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
ManU look good at times going forward (especially firs half) but their back line was a nightmare. If it were not for deGea it could have been worst
 
Man who doh rate Howard better check dem selves, the man is a boss keeper.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Andre on August 20, 2012, 07:01:34 PM
new signing?

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 07:17:18 PM
 :rotfl: that real ? nahhh man
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: TdotTrini on August 20, 2012, 07:53:03 PM
Its real, someone said Harry Rednapp is the new kit manager.

Second mis-spelt name since the season started.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 20, 2012, 08:16:18 PM
Fergie need to buy some defenders. Fellas cannot handle men running at them, only defender that is a beast is vidic.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 20, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
Fergie need to buy some defenders. Fellas cannot handle men running at them, only defender that is a beast is vidic.

If you consider kicking down man then Vidic is beast.  Fellani was dey daddy from the whistle.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on August 20, 2012, 09:45:36 PM
Belgium will be a serious team to watch next World Cup
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 20, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Belgium will be a serious team to watch next World Cup

Hazard, Dembele, Fellaini, Lukaku, Kompany, Vermaelen... but Fellaini is a real enigma, another Kenwyne Jones, although ah shouldn't insult him like that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on August 21, 2012, 06:32:06 AM
Belgium will be a serious team to watch next World Cup

Hazard, Dembele, Fellaini, Lukaku, Kompany, Vermaelen... but Fellaini is a real enigma, another Kenwyne Jones, although ah shouldn't insult him like that.

add omar el kaddouri and how you could forget axel witsel
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 21, 2012, 08:42:16 AM
Fergie need to buy some defenders. Fellas cannot handle men running at them, only defender that is a beast is vidic.

If you consider kicking down man then Vidic is beast.  Fellani was dey daddy from the whistle.

  just the point aha was going to make.....vidic is a decent defender but he would be a major liability if the refs called all of his obvious infractions.   

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on August 21, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
I rel vex we loss, but ah get the vibes we woulda loss early on when zoof-back head Welbeck miss dat sitter while falling down.

Fellaini is ah effing boss, and yeah Bakes doh insult de man by mentioning KJ in the same paragraph:) I always liked him but damn like de man take it up to whole other level.

How de hell Andesron is still a Manu player beggars belief!!!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 21, 2012, 10:51:59 AM
So we buy a left back today, young fella from Netherlands

Edit

Alexander Büttner on a five-year deal

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 21, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
add omar el kaddouri and how you could forget axel witsel

I eh really know them fellas.  Was just going off the top of mih head... add Kevin Mirallas (who just signed with Everton this morning) as well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on August 21, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
So we buy a left back today, young fella from Netherlands

Edit

Alexander Büttner on a five-year deal

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/293043_10151041103592746_1307392974_n.jpg)


Usually "Dutch Defender" is an Oxymoron  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 21, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Everybody on United need competition for they spot.  Either yuh perform or yuh eat bench. No time or room for passengers this year. No need for Welbeck to be starting important games ahead of RVP moving forward. Ah love him but he needs to learn to be more clinical. RVP should be the first striker to start and everybody else fall behind.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 21, 2012, 02:07:51 PM
Ah see my boy De Gea picked up where he left off last year with his saves! Did everything he could yesterday to give the side a chance. That is all you can ask of yuh goalie.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 21, 2012, 03:50:50 PM
On a slightly different note, Billionaire George Soros bought 7% stake in ManU, according to the beeb.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19328750
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on August 21, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
Any download links for the game?  Want to collect all games going forward for this season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 22, 2012, 07:22:56 AM
So we buy a left back today, young fella from Netherlands

Edit

Alexander Büttner on a five-year deal

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/293043_10151041103592746_1307392974_n.jpg)


Usually "Dutch Defender" is an Oxymoron  ;D

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 24, 2012, 10:05:58 AM
Manchester United summer transfers done - Sir Alex Ferguson

Sir Alex Ferguson has said that striker Angelo Henriquez will be Manchester United's last summer signing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19368229
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2012, 06:34:01 AM
Fulham today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2012, 08:03:36 AM
That happen so early Jol don't want to celebrate it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2012, 08:24:32 AM
Van persie first goal 1-1

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 25, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
And this is why Jol should have jump up and wine. B/c that is the only joy he getting from this game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Lard Rooney leg get chop open, from the man studs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
Lard Rooney leg get chop open, from the man studs.

Nasty gash... flesh skin out, fat showing all kinda thing.  Didn't even cry like Nani.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 25, 2012, 11:42:43 AM
Large Image , that's going to hurt like a bitch
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17x2jhem2psfajpg/original.jpg

(http://blogimages.thescore.com/footyblog/files/2012/08/Rooney-590x331.jpg)

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1144437.1345915662!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/wayne-rooney.jpg)

(http://donvuitton.com/allmyshit/uploads/2012/08/wayne-rooney-to-miss-four-weeks-with-leg-gash.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 25, 2012, 05:47:50 PM
This man have no shame yes...

Quote
"Brede Hangeland should have been sent off for his tackle from behind on Van Persie," the United manager said. "It was a terrible challenge, and the rules are very clear, but because he had already been booked and would have had to be dismissed, the referee let him off. I was very disappointed with that. It was a great game and I am sure everyone enjoyed it, but the one bad feature was poor refereeing."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/25/wayne-rooney-out-four-weeks?intcmp=239
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on August 26, 2012, 01:09:27 AM
So they say Rooney out for a month...didnt they say that with Nani and he came back in a week?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 26, 2012, 06:32:40 AM
So they say Rooney out for a month...didnt they say that with Nani and he came back in a week?

Rooney own worse. Plus is his thigh. More movement. Nani own was easier to protect. Could you imagine Rooney ripping the stitches on that in a game? Yikes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 26, 2012, 10:55:02 AM
Large Image , that's going to hurt like a bitch
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17x2jhem2psfajpg/original.jpg

(http://blogimages.thescore.com/footyblog/files/2012/08/Rooney-590x331.jpg)

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1144437.1345915662!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/wayne-rooney.jpg)

(http://donvuitton.com/allmyshit/uploads/2012/08/wayne-rooney-to-miss-four-weeks-with-leg-gash.jpeg)

People was asking if gravy was comming outta of the gash. Let him cool his heels on the sideline- hope he find it hard tuh get back in the side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 26, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
At first I thought It was a scrape, then I noticed I was seeing inside the man leg. Ugh lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 28, 2012, 12:44:08 PM
People was asking if gravy was comming outta of the gash. Let him cool his heels on the sideline- hope he find it hard tuh get back in the side.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400434_420709517988022_1178592213_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
Berbatov joins Fulham
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 09:04:19 AM
Everybody on a short leash this year oui! Fergie say he drop De Gea because he made a mistake against Fulham that could have cost United the match!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 09:07:40 AM
Everybody on a short leash this year oui! Fergie say he drop De Gea because he made a mistake against Fulham that could have cost United the match!

Lawd! He sending a message early , no free ride
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 09:18:36 AM
wtf is this  :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 09:26:13 AM
Van f**king persie boy. 1-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 02, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
wtf is this  :cursing:

Rinse, Repeat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:19:33 AM
Something seriously wrong with this team. Men like they aint even hit first gear yet
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
Lord he want to break Persie legs , shit tackle
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 02, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Lord he want to break Persie legs , shit tackle

just like the penalty kick...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:34:30 AM
Lord he want to break Persie legs , shit tackle

just like the penalty kick...

for real
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Something seriously wrong with this team. Men like they aint even hit first gear yet

We playing to slow. Nobody pushin the tempo! Teams have time tuh sit back and set dey defense! Evra need tuh eat bench next match!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:46:55 AM
Van Persie yuh f**kr , ah go take that goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:47:12 AM
Something seriously wrong with this team. Men like they aint even hit first gear yet

We playing to slow. Nobody pushin the tempo! Teams have time tuh sit back and set dey defense! Evra need tuh eat bench next match!

Yeh tempo like pre season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 02, 2012, 10:49:50 AM
For long stretches of this 2nd half. If you didn't know the teams, you would think Man U was playing in Red.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:51:02 AM
hat forking trick , Persie !!!


Play to the end!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 02, 2012, 10:54:26 AM
Steups  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Hernandez needs to start. He playing alot better than Welfare
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on September 02, 2012, 10:55:46 AM
Man U is a one man side  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 10:56:20 AM
That's why we signed him! Shoulda have the beaver! Southampton geh tired, and we geh lucky! Will take it!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 10:59:47 AM
Hernandez needs to start. He playing alot better than Welfare

Nah, Van P leading the line, Kagawa behind him and two wingers-Scholes (has tuh start), and then either Carrick or Cleverly. Fletcher needs tuh start every game once he healthy. He gives us energy and pushes the tempo from midfield. We also need to start introducing Butten for Evra. We need speed and energy in the side!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 11:00:39 AM
Man U is a one man side  ;D

Until the side geh up tuh speed!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 02, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Managers need tuh fine dem players for tryin tuh be cute when dey take cutsy penalties! Players costing teams or could cost teams with dem attempts, instead of making sure they score the damn penalties. Van P lucky he was able to redeem himself today. Cut the shite and score the penalty!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 02, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
Hey, why did you all wear the US Women's team uniform today  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 02:38:14 PM
Hey, why did you all wear the US Women's team uniform today  ???

Lol, I Thought nobody would notice it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 02, 2012, 06:40:09 PM
Hernandez needs more playing time. They killing the man on that bench.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 03, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
Lol Ronaldo say he sad at Real Madrid.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 03, 2012, 07:39:57 PM
Lol Ronaldo say he sad at Real Madrid.

...she just want even more attention.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on September 05, 2012, 10:52:11 AM
Stupessssssssss.....McRooney eh serious about he career nah.... >:(

Giggsy11 wham to yuh pardner? ;D



Rooney: I turned up for season overweight
September 5, 2012
By ESPN Staff


Rooney's weight was the source of criticism in some quarters of the media at the start of the season, with pundits questioning whether or not he had been serious about his fitness in the aftermath of England's Euro 2012 exit.

And Rooney, 26, who is currently sidelined with a severe gash to his thigh, has now admitted that he was not in the best shape when he returned for the new season - blaming a few beers enjoyed while on holiday for his weight.

"I'm like most blokes, I put on a few pounds after a holiday," Rooney said, in his new book My Decade in the Premier League, excerpts of which were published in the Daily Mirror. "Even if I don't train for a week, I put on two or three, but when I get back to Carrington [Manchester United's training ground] for the first day of work, I'm in for a shock.

"The scales in the club gym tell me I've put on a few more pounds than expected - seven. Seven! Then I remember - I drank a few bevvies while I was away. I'm stocky. I'm not like Ryan Giggs, all bone and lean muscle."

Rooney started United's opening game of the season against his former club Everton, but was subsequently dropped to the bench for the following home fixture against Fulham. And the England international admits that he cannot afford to let himself get out of shape with Robin van Persie added to the squad and Sir Alex Ferguson watching over him.

"Coming back for pre-season after a few bevvies and a few weeks away from a ball is physically tough," he added. "As a striker I need to work hard all the time. I need to be sharp, which means my fitness has to be right to play well. If it isn't, it shows.

"It would probably be different if I were a full-back. I could hide a bit, make fewer runs into the opposition half and get away with it. But as a centre-forward for Manchester United, there's no place to hide."

Ferguson recently acknowledged that Rooney needs to carefully monitor his weight, but defended the player's attitude towards his conditioning.

"Wayne is no Ryan Giggs," Ferguson said. "Ryan has never put a pound on in his whole life. Wayne is a boy that needs games, you can see that from the frame he's got. He is stocky, strong and really needs games, simple as that."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 05, 2012, 01:32:52 PM
Stupessssssssss.....McRooney eh serious about he career nah.... >:(

Giggsy11 wham to yuh pardner? ;D



Rooney: I turned up for season overweight
September 5, 2012
By ESPN Staff


Rooney's weight was the source of criticism in some quarters of the media at the start of the season, with pundits questioning whether or not he had been serious about his fitness in the aftermath of England's Euro 2012 exit.

And Rooney, 26, who is currently sidelined with a severe gash to his thigh, has now admitted that he was not in the best shape when he returned for the new season - blaming a few beers enjoyed while on holiday for his weight.

"I'm like most blokes, I put on a few pounds after a holiday," Rooney said, in his new book My Decade in the Premier League, excerpts of which were published in the Daily Mirror. "Even if I don't train for a week, I put on two or three, but when I get back to Carrington [Manchester United's training ground] for the first day of work, I'm in for a shock.

"The scales in the club gym tell me I've put on a few more pounds than expected - seven. Seven! Then I remember - I drank a few bevvies while I was away. I'm stocky. I'm not like Ryan Giggs, all bone and lean muscle."

Rooney started United's opening game of the season against his former club Everton, but was subsequently dropped to the bench for the following home fixture against Fulham. And the England international admits that he cannot afford to let himself get out of shape with Robin van Persie added to the squad and Sir Alex Ferguson watching over him.

"Coming back for pre-season after a few bevvies and a few weeks away from a ball is physically tough," he added. "As a striker I need to work hard all the time. I need to be sharp, which means my fitness has to be right to play well. If it isn't, it shows.

"It would probably be different if I were a full-back. I could hide a bit, make fewer runs into the opposition half and get away with it. But as a centre-forward for Manchester United, there's no place to hide."

Ferguson recently acknowledged that Rooney needs to carefully monitor his weight, but defended the player's attitude towards his conditioning.

"Wayne is no Ryan Giggs," Ferguson said. "Ryan has never put a pound on in his whole life. Wayne is a boy that needs games, you can see that from the frame he's got. He is stocky, strong and really needs games, simple as that."

Unprofessional fat f?cuk! Rooney have no damn shame. Confirming what everybody thinks about him. And to think he making more than Messi, Ronaldo to name a few. I doh get professional athletes who do not take care of about taking care of their bodies. You should not be fat and out of shape and be a professional athlete.  He feel he can role into training and work it off, like sides have time tuh wait for him tuh get in shape. No wonder he always injured! Two years ago they had tuh send his fat arse tuh fat camp at Nike headquaters because he showed up overweight! Fergie have a plan for him, watch this space.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 05, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
The new Fat kid
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 07:33:21 AM
Wigan. 9:53 est FSPlus
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
Hmmm that was not a PK.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 08:05:48 AM
Good a miss fair is fair
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:09:56 AM
Scholes! 1nil

:Edit. DaGea in the dog house too?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Scholes! 1nil

:Edit. DaGea in the dog house too?

De Gea will probably starting CL.  Fergie know De Gea competitative and mentally strong and can handle it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
I just want Nani to find his confidence and get run almost every match. When he is on he is almost unplayable and we need that in this side..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:22:47 AM
The Dutch Defender Alex look like a Evra 2.0 he playing good. Glad to see Hernandez score.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:24:29 AM
Goal! Just as I say Alex is a boss
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:25:51 AM
Hahaha look Evra face, he worried lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 09:27:13 AM
Dise what we need pace and determination. At last Evra has competition!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:40:53 AM
Nick Powell screamer. 4nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 17, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
Lol i just saw this vid today .

http://www.youtube.com/v/yt1H6ppj7EU&feature=related
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 05:11:53 AM
Big game today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 06:39:00 AM
Giggsy yuh keeper get bench again.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 23, 2012, 06:52:23 AM
Giggsy yuh keeper get bench again.

fergie doing the same thing again as he did with Barthez, Howard and Carroll. He doin' shit. Pick one and stick with him. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 07:09:37 AM
Two footed tackle. Red in yuh c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 23, 2012, 07:12:36 AM
Two footed tackle. Red in yuh c**t

Which TV you watching... that wasn't even two footed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
United can only get better. Fergie needs tuh stick with a settled 11 and let the fellas get use tuh playing together. He has f@cked up the side these past few years by picking a different side every match. Players can't get in no rythym.
 Nani needs tuh get his head in the game, rell slack in his passing and possession. Ferdinand is still a borse defender!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 07:25:21 AM
Giggsy yuh keeper get bench again.

fergie doing the same thing again as he did with Barthez, Howard and Carroll. He doin' shit. Pick one and stick with him. 

Yeah, he forkin with meh boi's head. Let him play, when the hell he expected when he bought him. Play the man, keepers need matches with their defense tuh building their relationships! Play my keeper!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 07:34:44 AM
Are we the team with 11 men?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 07:38:58 AM
Get in! 1-1

Liverpool looks shakey, they were playing fine all the time
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 07:39:55 AM
Rafaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 23, 2012, 07:48:09 AM
Two footed tackle. Red in yuh c**t

I owe yuh an apology... it was a two footed tackle after all  ::)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151090569612946&set=a.420929832945.195351.81286652945&type=1&theater
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 07:55:33 AM
Lindegard will make DaGea lose he spot he playing solid. Says alot if Fergie picks Lindegard over donut boy for a game like this.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 23, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
Lindegard will make DaGea lose he spot he playing solid. Says alot if Fergie picks Lindegard over donut boy for a game like this.

One stronger mentally...the other stronger reflexively. I guess that comes with age...cuz Lindergard older.....buh...De Gea go be the better keeper in the long term.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 08:05:00 AM
PK.

Valencia should of pass that though
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 23, 2012, 08:06:33 AM
Thank the ref.... soft f**king penalty, Johnson shirt mighta brushed Valencia.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
Lindegard will make DaGea lose he spot he playing solid. Says alot if Fergie picks Lindegard over donut boy for a game like this.

One stronger mentally...the other stronger reflexively. I guess that comes with age...cuz Lindergard older.....buh...De Gea go be the better keeper in the long term.


I think DeGea mentally strong and as strong, and a better keeper than Lindegard, the difference is he lacks a physical presence in the box that Lindegard has.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 08:09:47 AM
Reyna beaten with pace.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 08:13:06 AM
Reyna beaten with pace.

And the extra weight he carrying!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 08:19:15 AM
Liverpool was playing good till they scored. Then they sat back.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 08:25:57 AM
Finally beat Liverpool at home.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 08:27:36 AM
Liverpool was playing good till they scored. Then they sat back.

I think it was more a case of United raising their level of play after Liverstool scored. Up until then Liverstool was intiating play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 23, 2012, 08:44:02 AM
Giggsy yuh keeper get bench again.

fergie doing the same thing again as he did with Barthez, Howard and Carroll. He doin' shit. Pick one and stick with him. 

Yeah, he forkin with meh boi's head. Let him play, when the hell he expected when he bought him. Play the man, keepers need matches with their defense tuh building their relationships! Play my keeper!

If is anybody need to be rotating 'keepers is de liverpool manager, after some of the unforgivable errors reina has made over the past few seasons.   :laugh:

good game.  DieHard, Giggsy, like johnny evans is allyuh secret weapon wit de officials boy.  Anytime I see an opposing player on the wrong end of a poor refereeing decision involving a card...johnny evans always seem to be in de mix.  :rotfl:.  But so it goes.  valencia did a good job selling the referee on dat penalty, too, but so it goes in trute....I could see how the referee could miss both of them calls. 
Somebody got sent off for a similar tackle like shelvey own, I think it was a mancity player....YES, it was Vincent Kompany.  Straight red with even less contact than this one, main difference being that johnny evans went in with both feet as well.....then on the PK.....didn't Lucas win a "soft" penalty for liverpool against emanuel ebue same way a couple seasons ago?  liverpool fans was ecstatic!....so why is it that some of the same jackass liverpool fans that applauded and defended the ref's decision in THAT game is the same ones cussin' about the decision in THIS one?   Ah LOVE it!!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
Unfortunately United's best 11 includes Scholes which is one of the reasons the side doesn't look very fluid at times when he isn't on the pitch. He cannot play every match and we have nobody else who brings what he brings to the side. Powell still young and has the potential, Cleverly doesn't have the passing range Scholes has.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 08:51:23 AM
Giggsy yuh keeper get bench again.

fergie doing the same thing again as he did with Barthez, Howard and Carroll. He doin' shit. Pick one and stick with him. 

Yeah, he forkin with meh boi's head. Let him play, when the hell he expected when he bought him. Play the man, keepers need matches with their defense tuh building their relationships! Play my keeper!

If is anybody need to be rotating 'keepers is de liverpool manager, after some of the unforgivable errors reina has made over the past few seasons.   :laugh:

good game.  DieHard, Giggsy, like johnny evans is allyuh secret weapon wit de officials boy.  Anytime I see an opposing player on the wrong end of a poor refereeing decision involving a card...johnny evans always seem to be in de mix.  :rotfl:.  But so it goes.  valencia did a good job selling the referee on dat penalty, too, but so it goes in trute....I could see how the referee could miss both of them calls. 
Somebody got sent off for a similar tackle like shelvey own, I think it was a mancity player....YES, it was Vincent Kompany.  Straight red with even less contact than this one, main difference being that johnny evans went in with both feet as well.....then on the PK.....didn't Lucas win a "soft" penalty for liverpool against emanuel ebue same way a couple seasons ago?  liverpool fans was ecstatic!....so why is it that some of the same jackass liverpool fans that applauded and defended the ref's decision in THAT game is the same ones cussin' about the decision in THIS one?   Ah LOVE it!!  :rotfl:

If the the ref going tuh call it players are going to try and get away with it. I give up on even talking about bad decisions and diving. Both the ref and the players at fault for letting these situations continue to happen.
Sidenote-These forkin Americans on Foxsocccer with their pompoms for Demsey gettin on my nerves! Like he is Messi or Ronaldo! :puking:
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Post by: Mango Chow! on September 23, 2012, 09:05:08 AM

If the the ref going tuh call it players are going to try and get away with it. I give up on even talking about bad decisions and diving. Both the ref and the players at fault for letting these situations continue to happen.
Sidenote-These forkin Americans on Foxsocccer with their pompoms for Demsey gettin on my nerves! Like he is Messi or Ronaldo! :puking:

And don't forget the majority of the coaches, too, with their post-game pseudo tirades and hypocrisy....I kinda give up, too because EVEERY BODY doin' it.  Yuh tink Ivanovic didn't fckn piss me orff wit he metronaldo impersonation yesterday? Steuwps!  If FIFA and the respective federations want to stamp out the diving, they can very easily.  Just start givin' out post-game fines and suspensions.  It really not hard to tell the difference between a real foul and a dive, especially with the use of television replay.


*as far as them americans go, you know damned well if that was clint dempsey goin' down like valencia did, they woulda say he "did well to 'draw' the foul" and doh let it be Balotelli or Tevez that held out on fulham.....Everything that is wrong with the game is what woulda be wrong with either of them two players (and TRUST it woulda had some jackass on this forum self talkin' de same shit, too)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 11:33:39 AM
People really believe United pay off referees?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 23, 2012, 12:12:11 PM
People really believe United pay off referees?

  No.....dey jes 'fraid fergie mouth and biased towards the club. f**k fergie tho, AND manu, :flamethrower: if I was a referee!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 12:55:40 PM
People really believe United pay off referees?

Please, dem same people doesn't say shite when the end of the year their team geh more favorable calls than United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 23, 2012, 12:56:28 PM
People really believe United pay off referees?

  No.....dey jes 'fraid fergie mouth and biased towards the club. f**k fergie tho, AND manu, :flamethrower: if I was a referee!

If yuh was a ref yuh woulda give all the calls tuh Chelski!  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on September 23, 2012, 01:31:15 PM
People really believe United pay off referees?

  No.....dey jes 'fraid fergie mouth and biased towards the club. f**k fergie tho, AND manu, :flamethrower: if I was a referee!

If yuh was a ref yuh woulda give all the calls tuh Chelski!  ;D

  Nope!  Ivanovic woulda get a yellow yesterday but I woulda still give Luiz only a yellow.....but Walters was gettin' one, too, fuh he jackass behaviour!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 25, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
shit!

Nemanja Vidic: Manchester United defender has knee surgery


Manchester United captain Nemanja Vidic has been ruled out for eight weeks following a knee operation.
Vidic missed Sunday's Premier League win at Liverpool after complaining of tightness in his right knee.
However, further tests revealed the problem to be more severe than initially expected and the centre-back was forced to undergo surgery.

United's central defensive woes

Nemanja Vidic (knee): Expected back: 20 November

Phil Jones (knee): Expected back: 20 Oct

Chris Smalling (foot): Expected back: 7 Oct

The 30-year-old Serb missed the final five months of last season with a ruptured cruciate knee ligament.
"Nemanja Vidic has had a meniscus operation on his right knee and will be out for around eight weeks," read a club statement.

"Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson rested Vidic as a precautionary measure at the weekend after he complained of tightness in his knee. However, further medical investigation revealed the underlying problem.

"The central defender was operated on this week and will be sidelined for about eight weeks."
It is the latest defensive blow for United, who have suffered injuries to fellow centre-backs Chris Smalling and Phil Jones.

Smalling was sidelined for 10 weeks in July with a broken metatarsal and Jones for eight weeks in early September with a knee complaint.

Vidic joined United from Spartak Moscow in 2006 and has scored 17 goals in 246 appearances for the Old Trafford club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19718670
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 26, 2012, 12:45:55 PM
Capital one Cup

Utd vs Newcastle on ESPN now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 06:30:39 AM
Tottenham today. 12:30 est
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 29, 2012, 06:56:25 AM
Interested in seeing who starting and where they playing. Read that Nani get into a fight with a youteman. Nani looks like he on his way out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 10:32:55 AM
Wtf!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Kagawa has come and fit right in... diving all over the place, just as he did last week against Liverpool.  Cheating bitches.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 11:02:56 AM
f**king Bullshit defending. Can't deal with men running at them.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 11:39:28 AM
come on!!! 2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
fork  ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 11:41:51 AM
Get in!!!!!! 3-2

Nani / Kagawa
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 29, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
is just to wait for the penalty call...  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 11:46:02 AM
 :devil: come on ref , we payed you well  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
Scholes boy ! passing

Lord look at that shot
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 29, 2012, 12:23:39 PM
Yes!!!!
A round of haterade for everyone on me!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 29, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
 :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 29, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
Scholes boy ! passing

Lord look at that shot

37 eh, nice.  Buyin de ref did not help today  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on September 29, 2012, 12:24:44 PM
Yes!!!!

Justice for the farce at Anfield last week.

There is an Almighty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
Yes!!!!

Justice for the farce at Anfield last week.

There is an Almighty.

Never justice unless we finish above them in the table... but it will go some ways.  Meanwhile Halsey nearly screw City earlier today with yet another dreadful penalty given to Fulham.  Two fans on Twitter say he shoulda die of cancer and he run to police to complain like ah bitch.  Not that what they said was right, but no crime... as the police properly determined.  His ass needs to go back to the pub leagues.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on September 29, 2012, 12:30:16 PM
Congrats to Spurs! But dam they rode some luck! Great goalkeeping by the old man  :applause:

ManU does real batter yuh into submission when they behind at home, but today it was not to be.

PS: after Gallas rest that tackle on VanP, he really did not want to know about the rest of the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on September 29, 2012, 12:37:06 PM
Yes!!!!

Justice for the farce at Anfield last week.

There is an Almighty.

Never justice unless we finish above them in the table... but it will go some ways.  Meanwhile Halsey nearly screw City earlier today with yet another dreadful penalty given to Fulham.  Two fans on Twitter say he shoulda die of cancer and he run to police to complain like ah bitch.  Not that what they said was right, but no crime... as the police properly determined.  His ass needs to go back to the pub leagues.

Even if it was a legitimate infringement, the contact occurred outside the penalty area. It should have been a free kick on the edge of the box. To put it mildly,  Halsey has really been at the centre of some very controversial calls in the last two weeks. City was fortunate to prevail.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 29, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
De Gea would have made the save on Bale's goal and also parried Bale's shot away from the unrushing shithound Dempsey.
Fergie frustrates me with team selections(no reason De Gea should not be playing or to play Giggs on the wing instead of Welbeck) and the continued lack of a midfielder who can add some graft to the side. If we have midfielders who are not good enough to contribute then get rid of them, why bring them back for another season and continue to have the same problems? Fletcher can bring that to the table but he cannot play all of the matches.  Why not change up the formations when we are down to only one healthy winger. Giggs likes to play down the middle even when he starts on the wing. I feel we miss Carlos when it comes to formualting game plans and making adjustments during games, those two coaches on the bench are useless. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 29, 2012, 01:57:31 PM
De Gea would have made the save on Bale's goal and also parried Bale's shot away from the unrushing shithound Dempsey.
Fergie frustrates me with team selections(no reason De Gea should not be playing or to play Giggs on the wing instead of Welbeck) and the continued lack of a midfielder who can add some graft to the side. If we have midfielders who are not good enough to contribute then get rid of them, why bring them back for another season and continue to have the same problems? Fletcher can bring that to the table but he cannot play all of the matches.  Why not change up the formations when we are down to only one healthy winger. Giggs likes to play down the middle even when he starts on the wing. I feel we miss Carlos when it comes to formualting game plans and making adjustments during games, those two coaches on the bench are useless

Isn't that the manager's job though? If the coaches are coaching and managing then what's the role of the manager, especially one as great as the infallable SAF?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 29, 2012, 02:26:52 PM
De Gea would have made the save on Bale's goal and also parried Bale's shot away from the unrushing shithound Dempsey.
Fergie frustrates me with team selections(no reason De Gea should not be playing or to play Giggs on the wing instead of Welbeck) and the continued lack of a midfielder who can add some graft to the side. If we have midfielders who are not good enough to contribute then get rid of them, why bring them back for another season and continue to have the same problems? Fletcher can bring that to the table but he cannot play all of the matches.  Why not change up the formations when we are down to only one healthy winger. Giggs likes to play down the middle even when he starts on the wing. I feel we miss Carlos when it comes to formualting game plans and making adjustments during games, those two coaches on the bench are useless

Isn't that the manager's job though? If the coaches are coaching and managing then what's the role of the manager, especially one as great as the infallable SAF?

No matter who the manager is it helps to have people who can provide input in the form of fresh ideas , because they may be seeing it from a different lense regarding how to utilize personell or attack an opponent.  Carlos when he was at United provided input and helped Fergie with stratigies( especially defensive) during and before matches, especially in Europe.  He may not have the best record as a manager but he was an excellent number 2, when he was at United. Plus he was not British which I think was a plus considering the team has more foreign talent than British talent. Mike Whelan who is the current number 2 is old, English and to similar to Fergie IMO.
Fergie IMO has slipped with some of the decisions he has made which has led to United losing points or matches. I still doh understand why the f$ck he has done nothing about the hole left by Hagreves' departure or that we lack creativity in midfield when Scholes doesn't play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 29, 2012, 02:43:41 PM
Shocking how Spurs was celebrating like dey just one a cup.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on September 29, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
Shocking how Spurs was celebrating like dey just one a cup.

Come nah Giggsy after 23 years wha you expect. Let them have their moment nah ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on September 29, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
Shocking how Spurs was celebrating like dey just one a cup.

Come nah Giggsy after 23 years wha you expect. Let them have their moment nah ::)

I am just being bitter about the shite we played !  >:( Spurs did what they needed to do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Socafan on September 29, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
Yes!!!!
A round of haterade for everyone on me!
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Yes!!!!
A round of haterade for everyone on me!

HEH, HEH, HEH........I'll drink to that!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on September 29, 2012, 07:30:05 PM
Sir Alex bawling about the amount of injury time added in the game, calling it an insult. Sir Alex good we.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on September 29, 2012, 09:00:17 PM
d chelsea thread on d bottom a page 2, so ah guess alyuh still doin better dan we............no wait ??? .......... :devil: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 02, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Cluj vs Utd on Fsc.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 03, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
Got this off FB

Some referee facts:
1. Mike Dean, referee, when Blackburn beat Manchester United 3-2 and hasn't refereed a Manchester United game since.

2. Mike Dean - referee, in 2010, after Manchester United's defeat to Chelsea, was demoted to the Championship.

3. Alan Wiley, called "fat and unfit" by Alex after Manchester United's draw with Sunderland," agreed to retire" that season, he was also the ref on OT when the mancs lost 1-4 to Liverpool.

4. Mark Clattenburg refereed Manchester United's 6-1 defeat to Manchester City, hasn't refereed a single Manchester United game after that Manchester derby. (has acted as 4th official in 3)

5. Martin Atkinson -Involved in Manchester United's defeat to Chelsea, criticized by Alex, hasn't refereed Manchester United game since.

6. Ex referee Jeff Winter openly stating that he hadn't been given a Manchester United game for 2 years after sending Roy Keane off.

7. Howard Webb has been Manchester United's most used referee since the defeat to Manchester City.

8. More than 18% of the penalties Webb has awarded in his 8 year career have been to Manchester United.

9. Manchester United's CEO is on the board of The FA.

10. Alex Ferguson not happy with Chris Foy after their 3-2 defeat to spurs, Foy demoted to a League Two game between Accrington Stanley and Rochdale this weekend. something he hasn't done since the 2001-02 season.
Make of that what you want.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 04, 2012, 04:09:29 AM
Yeah they have to know they place. One simply does not go against the establishment. :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 04, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
Yeah they have to know they place. One simply does not go against the establishment. :)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 04, 2012, 01:24:42 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2OCzxvDXmXE/SqluaMF_uuI/AAAAAAAAAnI/s_MtS6VNZzU/s400/Alex+Ferguson.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on October 04, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2OCzxvDXmXE/SqluaMF_uuI/AAAAAAAAAnI/s_MtS6VNZzU/s400/Alex+Ferguson.jpg)

the picture plus your name take it for me  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on October 04, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2OCzxvDXmXE/SqluaMF_uuI/AAAAAAAAAnI/s_MtS6VNZzU/s400/Alex+Ferguson.jpg)

the picture plus your name take it for me  :rotfl:

Hahhahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 07, 2012, 08:52:21 AM
Finally, meh boi starting in goal!  ;D I aint goh lie-I love seeing him geh shots so I can see him make the saves. Unfortuantely these days he will geh plenty of shots tuh save.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 07, 2012, 09:12:29 AM
Cricket have my attention today, ill peek at the game in between
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 07, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
2 nil. Two corners-2 defenders score.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 07, 2012, 10:44:27 AM
ah back WI win a world cup after more than 20 years
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 07, 2012, 10:46:05 AM
And Manchester win! great day
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 07, 2012, 08:13:23 PM
It funny that Man United need ah win against a tricky fixture and lo and behold who refs the game.  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on October 09, 2012, 08:14:50 PM
Got this off FB

Some referee facts:
1. Mike Dean, referee, when Blackburn beat Manchester United 3-2 and hasn't refereed a Manchester United game since.

2. Mike Dean - referee, in 2010, after Manchester United's defeat to Chelsea, was demoted to the Championship.

3. Alan Wiley, called "fat and unfit" by Alex after Manchester United's draw with Sunderland," agreed to retire" that season, he was also the ref on OT when the mancs lost 1-4 to Liverpool.

4. Mark Clattenburg refereed Manchester United's 6-1 defeat to Manchester City, hasn't refereed a single Manchester United game after that Manchester derby. (has acted as 4th official in 3)

5. Martin Atkinson -Involved in Manchester United's defeat to Chelsea, criticized by Alex, hasn't refereed Manchester United game since.

6. Ex referee Jeff Winter openly stating that he hadn't been given a Manchester United game for 2 years after sending Roy Keane off.

7. Howard Webb has been Manchester United's most used referee since the defeat to Manchester City.

8. More than 18% of the penalties Webb has awarded in his 8 year career have been to Manchester United.

9. Manchester United's CEO is on the board of The FA.

10. Alex Ferguson not happy with Chris Foy after their 3-2 defeat to spurs, Foy demoted to a League Two game between Accrington Stanley and Rochdale this weekend. something he hasn't done since the 2001-02 season.
Make of that what you want.


http://mixturesport.com/answer-to-conspiracy-theories-against-man-united/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
Alright, Fergie get my memo and case of wine about starting De Gea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 08:00:55 AM
Utd Utd!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 08:06:37 AM
Rooney, wellbeck, persie. Fergie going for the kill today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 20, 2012, 08:11:55 AM
Rooney opens his 2012 EPL account...  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on October 20, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
Rooney opens his 2012 EPL account...  ::)
a glory glory moment . ???..oh..not yet ok
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Rooney!!!!! 1-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on October 20, 2012, 08:29:02 AM
Rooney!!!!! 1-1
Yeah yeah,,,glory,glory...whooptidoo
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 20, 2012, 08:29:13 AM
Rooney with a 1st-half double.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 08:45:00 AM
Valencia is a forking boss. Goal Van Persie -2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 20, 2012, 08:46:02 AM
How Scholes still on the field?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on October 20, 2012, 08:53:52 AM
Valencia is a forking boss. Goal Van Persie -2-1
van Persie (trained by Gunners) is boss...good play by Valencia..as expected,Stoke don't have the mortar to withstand this quality assault..to many points of attack
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 09:04:46 AM
alyuh see that forking cross
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on October 20, 2012, 09:51:53 AM
Pulis eh have faith in our man KJ or wha?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 09:52:46 AM
Kj in the deal Dog house, eating a bone.

Glory Glory Utd!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
Our defenders cannot defend against fast strikers running at them. Rediculous
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Good win. Want Ando tuh get and extended run in midfield .
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 20, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Our defenders cannot defend against fast strikers running at them. Rediculous

Yup. Not quick enough tuh step up so always on the retreat, not in position tuh make a tackle and it the mean time the attack continuing full speed ahead. Nothin in midfield stopping counter attacks when play break down.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
 :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2012, 01:05:13 PM
 :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on October 23, 2012, 01:06:39 PM
Braga for life!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
Come on UTD 2-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2012, 02:05:22 PM
2-2
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
3-2  :duel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on October 23, 2012, 03:21:56 PM
It's fun to see this team attack...not so much for the defense  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 06:46:41 PM
Glory!  :devil:

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229870_10151136696567746_852244269_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
Glory!  :devil:

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229870_10151136696567746_852244269_n.jpg)


my ass :yellowcard: :banginghead: :banginghead:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 29, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
Who remember this day, terry the pussy  :devil:

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317732_10151138231097746_1825824197_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 10:52:35 AM
2:45 ET i believe the kickoff is

Chelsea vs United

http://www.lshunter.tv/football-live-streaming-video.html
http://www.sportwebz.com/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 01:29:41 PM
Edit 3:45 kickoff
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
1nil Giggs

Edit: 2-1 half time. Utd leads

3-2 Utd leads 59min
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
Who remember this day, terry the pussy  :devil:

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317732_10151138231097746_1825824197_n.jpg)

   :D Hul yuh ass, de man did slip! 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
Lol that defender is a shit hound last play of the game lol. Extra time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 03:37:38 PM
Allyuh feel is only Arsenal could equalize in the dying moments?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
That defender pushing everybody blatant, I bet that is the last game he play for the team lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
Thanks for the gift.
That fella is secretly a Chelsea fan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
Wha is de score now?  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 03:56:24 PM
Like all these refs get instructions to hold back on the red cards.
Too late for Torres though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 03:58:53 PM
Like all these refs get instructions to hold back on the red cards against manu.
Too late for Torres though.

  ah fix it fuh yuh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 04:03:25 PM
Comment on soccernet: Sturridge is channeling his inner Torres
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
Comment on soccernet: Sturridge is channeling his inner Torres

diving or missed chances?  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
Comment on soccernet: Sturridge is channeling his inner Torres

diving or missed chances?  >:(

Yes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 04:13:51 PM
Comment on soccernet: Sturridge is channeling his inner Torres

diving or missed chances?  >:(

Yes


LMAO!!  "Yes" what?!  :frustrated:

Well, if is "missed chances" Ramires now show him how it's done.  5-3! Game done!




Penalty. Giggs converts...5-4.  Game STILL done! (hard luck dey, DieHard.  :devil:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 31, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
Everyone playing to lose in this Cup or what? Yesterday Arsenal and Reading 7-5, today Chelsea and Man United 5-4, Norwich and Tottenham 2-1, Swansea and Liverpool 3-1

 ??? :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
Everyone playing to lose in this Cup or what? Yesterday Arsenal and Reading 7-5, today Chelsea and Man United 5-4, Norwich and Tottenham 2-1, Swansea and Liverpool 3-1

 ??? :-\

To hell wit de cup....I jes glad we knock dem bishes out!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 31, 2012, 04:22:53 PM
dat have to be d must..........................hmmmmmmmmmm ??? um..................what was that ..............entertain but what was dat ??? and Sturridge, dat boy not helpin he self atall greedy miskicks, bout three times moses had dem to kill free as a bird and what sturridge do...well yes Torres ....Sturridge.......drogba wey yuh.......sigh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 04:38:10 PM
Ref get buy out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 31, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
Ref get buy out.
steups :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 31, 2012, 04:58:16 PM
Ref get buy out.

 and manu get beat-out!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
Comment on soccernet: Sturridge is channeling his inner Torres

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2012, 06:08:31 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 31, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on October 31, 2012, 06:36:16 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.

Without Giggs they would be an average age of 23 too.

A question for yall United fans - Alex Ferguson's production line has produced a grand total of 1 star player in the last 10 years  - Darren Fletcher. If I'm being generous, then perhaps Wellbeck. Do yall have any hope in this latest generation (Cleverley, Powell etc)?



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 31, 2012, 06:41:32 PM
lmao....Take the win, after all, we sub on players who will one day be fighting to be in starting 11, rather than fighting at present to make it on the bench.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 31, 2012, 06:43:49 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.

Without Giggs they would be an average age of 23 too.

A question for yall United fans - Alex Ferguson's production line has produced a grand total of 1 star player in the last 10 years  - Darren Fletcher. If I'm being generous, then perhaps Wellbeck. Do yall have any hope in this latest generation (Cleverley, Powell etc)?




Answer: In my opinion Cleverly. How about Chelsea? Who do you think Chelsea will Produce as a top player?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 31, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.

Without Giggs they would be an average age of 23 too.

A question for yall United fans - Alex Ferguson's production line has produced a grand total of 1 star player in the last 10 years  - Darren Fletcher. If I'm being generous, then perhaps Wellbeck. Do yall have any hope in this latest generation (Cleverley, Powell etc)?




Answer: In my opinion Cleverly. How about Chelsea? Who do you think Chelsea will Produce as a top player?

They like ready made
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on October 31, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
They like ready made

Most big clubs can't do without ready-made.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on October 31, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Some really funny banners at the match from United fans. Diehard please do yuh magic and show some pics of the banners.

Ando, Welbeck,  and Javier play some nice football. Sweet gol by Nani. Chelski can take win-hope dey feel better.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 01, 2012, 01:31:55 AM
Answer: In my opinion Cleverly. How about Chelsea? Who do you think Chelsea will Produce as a top player?

Like I said, the average age of the Chelsea team was 23 today.  Our young players aren't the future, they are the present.

Not to mention we have players like Courtois, De Bruyn and Lukaku out on loan, trying to impress enough to make it into this side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on November 01, 2012, 08:54:29 AM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Starting XI: Cech (7m), Azpilicueta (6m), Cahill (7m), Luiz (20m), Bertrand (125k), Piazon (10m), Mikel (16m), Romeu (6m), Mata (23m), Moses (9m), Sturridge (6m)
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m

United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m

Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory
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Post by: D.H.W on November 01, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
All them star boy to beat we? Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on November 01, 2012, 10:18:21 AM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Starting XI: Cech (7m), Azpilicueta (6m), Cahill (7m), Luiz (20m), Bertrand (125k), Piazon (10m), Mikel (16m), Romeu (6m), Mata (23m), Moses (9m), Sturridge (6m)
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m

United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m

Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on November 01, 2012, 01:25:14 PM
Starting XI: Cech (7m), Azpilicueta (6m), Cahill (7m), Luiz (20m), Bertrand (125k), Piazon (10m), Mikel (16m), Romeu (6m), Mata (23m), Moses (9m), Sturridge (6m)
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m

United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m

Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory

Thanx buddy. Glad iz not my money :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on November 01, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Doh try dat. What the numbers look like without Giggs in the count?
In any case, I wouldn't call them kids so much as players trying to make the squad.

Without Giggs they would be an average age of 23 too.

A question for yall United fans - Alex Ferguson's production line has produced a grand total of 1 star player in the last 10 years  - Darren Fletcher. If I'm being generous, then perhaps Wellbeck. Do yall have any hope in this latest generation (Cleverley, Powell etc)?





Tunnicliffe. He is progressing well; a good driving midfielder. Another guy I like to watch is Petrucci, but he had injury issues a while back and has not gotten near the first team. I had hopes for Morrisson, but...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on November 01, 2012, 03:25:32 PM
I'm guessing a few people are thinking that Man Utd played their kids....

Average age of Man Utd's first XI - 25
Average age of Chelsea's first XI - 23

:beermug:  :beermug:

Starting XI: Cech (7m), Azpilicueta (6m), Cahill (7m), Luiz (20m), Bertrand (125k), Piazon (10m), Mikel (16m), Romeu (6m), Mata (23m), Moses (9m), Sturridge (6m)
Brought on: Hazard (32m), Oscar (25m), Ramires (18m)
Academy graduates involved: 0
Total cost: £185.125m

United: Lindegaard (2m), Rafael (2m), Wootton (0), Keane (0), Buttner (3m), Fletcher (0), Anderson (20m), Nani (18m), Giggs (0), Hernandez (6m), Welbeck (0)
Brought on: Powell (4m), Tunnicliffe (0), Macheda (0)
Academy graduates involved: 7
Total cost: £55m

Congratulations to Chelsea on a superb victory

 :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 03, 2012, 10:52:47 AM
First!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 04, 2012, 10:38:25 AM
everybody else draw  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 04, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
 Nice to read these things about Rafa coming from Fergie. Also nice tuh know he is such a football peong and works hard in practice. Hope he goes from strength to strength in his development as a footballer and person.

He has been United's best and most consistent player after RVP.


by Crunch Sports Staff

Posted 1 hour 21 minutes ago
 
Manchester United full-back Rafael can be as successful as Gary Neville, according to manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

Rafael has cemented his position as United's first-choice right-back and has been one of the club's best players so far this season.

"He's been fantastic," Ferguson said of the 22-year-old.

"He had the rashness, the impetuosity of a young boy. He's a Brazilian, he loves the game, he trains like a beast, never misses training and is a football fanatic.

"When he goes home in the summer, he goes into his street team and plays every day back in Brazil. It's phenomenal.
"We were hoping somewhere along the line that maturity comes along and the rashness disappears and his form this season has been brilliant.
"He can develop the kind of career Gary had, definitely. Gary was not the finished article when he came into the team but he became a fantastic full-back - probably the best the club has ever had.

"But it did take time for him in terms of his use of the ball and his crossing. All of these things develop because he wanted them to develop and he worked hard at it.
"We invest in young players' futures and we get repaid at some point. And that's what's happening with the boy."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 10, 2012, 01:29:30 PM
Another one bites the dust! Hernandez has some sweet feet boi!
WTF has happen tuh Valencia's crossing ability and ability tuh go by his man? When he off his one footedness sticks out like a man on one leg. Ashley Young is not United material, another one demensional and predictable winger!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2012, 01:46:06 PM
City and Chelsea losing tomorrow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on November 10, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/geqpSs9SK-Y
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on November 10, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
Any youth who looking to become a striker should study his movement. He constantly have defenders
looking around for him. Impressive!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on November 10, 2012, 04:50:38 PM
Any youth who looking to become a striker should study his movement. He constantly have defenders
looking around for him. Impressive!

Currently one of de best off-de-ball runners.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on November 10, 2012, 07:24:02 PM
Another one bites the dust! Hernandez has some sweet feet boi!
WTF has happen tuh Valencia's crossing ability and ability tuh go by his man? When he off his one footedness sticks out like a man on one leg. Ashley Young is not United material, another one demensional and predictable winger!

Agree with yuh horse!!!

Ashley Young make meh start questioning whether ah is ah hypocrite for liking Ronaldo even though he is ah King Diver and not liking him-Young.

I was happy when he came to Manu, now he does just annoy the hell outta me and ah wish we could sell his diving-ass. Sure enough Chicarito come on and done them wid three boss goal!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on November 20, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
A VERY young squad today. We get to see the Reserve Team (U21) players! Hopefully Tunnicliffe and Petrucci get some playing time (Tunners might start). Powell might start as well or play some part.
The only problem is that the U21 was weakened yesterday and lost a crucial game to Villa  :(  I don't expect much today, but it's always good to see the young players get a chance.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Nov/manchester-united-take-21-players-to-istanbul-for-galatasaray-match.aspx

Reds take 21 to Turkey


Sir Alex Ferguson will select from a younger squad than usual when he names his Manchester United side to face Galatasaray on Tuesday night.

The party of 21 players flying out to Istanbul includes seven young men who have yet to play in the UEFA Champions League, including midfielders Nick Powell, Larnell Cole, Davide Petrucci and Ryan Tunnicliffe, striker Joshua King and defender Marnick Vermijl. The other two - defender / defensive midfielder Tom Thorpe and goalkeeper Sam Johnstone - are still without a senior appearance in any competition for the Reds, although both are United Under-21 regulars and have been capped by England at Under-19 level.

The senior players missing the trip to Turkey include Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, David De Gea and Robin van Persie.

Travelling squad: Sam Johnstone, Anders Lindegaard; Rafael, Alexander Buttner, Phil Jones, Tom Thorpe, Marnick Vermijl, Scott Wootton; Michael Carrick, Davide Petrucci, Larnell Cole, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher, Anderson, Nick Powell, Ashley Young, Ryan Tunnicliffe; Javier Hernandez, Joshua King, Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 20, 2012, 01:23:45 PM
 :duel:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on November 23, 2012, 09:12:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/HtgXzImMCOQ
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 24, 2012, 10:32:23 AM
how dis place quiet so?  like man(u fans) cyah type when dey bamsee squeeze up tight ah wha?  :devil:

manu 0 : 1 QPR, 63rd minute.....but doh worry, QPR now bring on dey in-house jinx, Anton (c**t-mout' bredda)....allyuh sure to get one back if he could help it!   ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 24, 2012, 10:32:30 AM
 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :whip:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 24, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
how dis place quiet so?  like man(u fans) cyah type when dey bamsee squeeze up tight ah wha?  :devil:

manu 0 : 1 QPR, 63rd minute.....but doh worry, QPR now bring on dey in-house jinx, Anton (c**t-mout' bredda)....allyuh sure to get one back if he could help it!   ;D

shhhhhhh  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 24, 2012, 10:35:07 AM
how dis place quiet so?  like man(u fans) cyah type when dey bamsee squeeze up tight ah wha?  :devil:

manu 0 : 1 QPR, 63rd minute.....but doh worry, QPR now bring on dey in-house jinx, Anton (c**t-mout' bredda)....allyuh sure to get one back if he could help it!   ;D

shhhhhhh  :devil:

 :rotfl:  Wha de ASS!!  Wha happ'm dey, wha ah miss?  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 24, 2012, 10:46:36 AM
3-1  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 24, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
how dis place quiet so?  like man(u fans) cyah type when dey bamsee squeeze up tight ah wha?  :devil:

manu 0 : 1 QPR, 63rd minute.....but doh worry, QPR now bring on dey in-house jinx, Anton (c**t-mout' bredda)....allyuh sure to get one back if he could help it!   ;D

shhhhhhh  :devil:

 :rotfl:  Wha de ASS!!  Wha happ'm dey, wha ah miss?  :laugh:

Ando and Chicharito!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 24, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
3-1  ;D

  ent ah tell allyuh Anton woulda jinx dem?! lol!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on November 24, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
Imagine Ando bringing tempo-well is about time. Now build on it. Scholes and Giggsy need not start anymore matches,lets play the young fellas and keep it moving. Feltcher bring some well needed stability and authority in the middle, glad he score.  :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 24, 2012, 09:23:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/sti-cSfrPQY
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 25, 2012, 07:41:34 AM
Pep Guardiola
wants Man Utd job

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4663405/Pep-Guardiola-wants-Man-Utd-manager-job.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on November 25, 2012, 08:53:20 AM
Twenty Years of Cantona!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call)


When the Premier League was introduced in 1992, Sir Alex Ferguson described it as "a piece of nonsense" that sold supporters "right down the river". Twelve Premier League titles later, Ferguson has found greatness and a knighthood amid that nonsense. He may not have won a single title, however, without a serendipitous phone call 20 years ago this week . It led to the signing of Eric Cantona, who would catalyse Manchester United to an extent that still boggles the mind.

Read the rest here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/24/eric-cantona-20-years-phone-call)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 28, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
West Ham vs Utd now on espn
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 28, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
Oh shit goal, 33 secs

Van Persie
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 11:41:35 AM
Early Goal against us again  :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 11:53:58 AM
way 3-2 already 23 min gone.

this is going to be a long day
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 01, 2012, 11:55:50 AM
Roberts unsettle dem fellas.  Evra eat into that bullshit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 11:59:55 AM
3-3
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
4-3
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
robbed of a goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 01, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
Goalline tech can't come soon enough.  No way linesman could make that call at that pace of play.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on December 01, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
sh*t on a stick  >:(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 01, 2012, 02:26:48 PM
City draw, Chelsea lorse, Utd win. Good day.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 01, 2012, 05:08:16 PM
Thank goodness we pull another one out. Props tuh Ando!
 Fergie make his statement by pullin Rafa before halftime, since Rafa has been our best and consistent defender this year. He have a little more options now, so I expect heads tuh roll! Evans still can't defender on set pieces and I have no idea what Rio does be doing alongside him on these set pieces. Ashley Young need tuh buss come July.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on December 02, 2012, 08:38:21 AM
I find Wellbeck real purging these days. I eh see nuttin positive from him yet he seems to be getting more play than Chich who has been scoring and bringing more positives. Personally, I never rated Wellbeck.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 07:13:41 AM
The day is here. City vs Utd. About 15 min to kickoff
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 07:53:51 AM
Joe Hart... smh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on December 09, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
Rooney on fire this morning or what.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
Ah miss the second goal, stueps.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on December 09, 2012, 08:10:07 AM
Nice game. Man. Ciity playing some nice ball. Actually they knocking it better that United.  But United scored the goals. Football is a cruel game. But there is plenty of time left.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
OMG OMG YES YES YES!!!!!

GOLAZO! VAN PERSIE !!!!!!

GOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! VAN PERSIE!

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on December 09, 2012, 09:21:47 AM
Man U take win..
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 09:21:52 AM
f**ked up city supporter buss Ferdinand eye
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 09:22:02 AM
This match is starting to descend into violence...

 :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 09:22:32 AM
call off the game now!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 09:24:15 AM
No class CITY little bitches >:( f**k off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
Lucky friggin team... game marred by some spotty officiating at times, and definitely by the idiotic behavior of some of the City fans.  They threw something at Rooney from that same corner.  City take dah one on de chin like Pacquiao.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2012, 09:27:32 AM
Nasri hide behind the wall like a little Hen
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
That's why we signed him! RVP! Well done United! At first I thought Ferdinand hit himself in the face when he was celebrating then I the commentator said he is hit with a coin.

Nasir thought he and RVP was still on the same side or wat?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
City's defending looked very suspect today, and every time Utd went forward, the red devils always looked likely to score.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
Is amazing the difference RVP has made in the side and it helps to have young legs in midfield and that two wingers were able to play today. And Fergie showed he wanted to win the match by sending Welbeck on instead of settling for a draw.

 Ah feel something up with Valencia-he not sharp and very indecisive when he on the ball.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 09:34:29 AM
City's defending looked very suspect today, and every time Utd went forward, the red devils always looked likely to score.



They lost their captain and best defender to injury... what else yuh expect?  Not Hart's best day, while De Gea made some nice stops.  Mancini bounce he head by starting wasteman Balotelli over Tevez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 09:34:37 AM
Lucky friggin team... game marred by some spotty officiating at times, and definitely by the idiotic behavior of some of the City fans.  They threw something at Rooney from that same corner.  City take dah one on de chin like Pacquiao.

I could tell that Ferguson and Utd wanted to win badly and City was somewhat below par despite the sky blues' improved second half performance. I could tell when Ferguson brought Welbeck on, he was only prepared to accept one result...

I knew that City were in trouble when Tevez committed that foul about three yards outside the penalty area.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on December 09, 2012, 09:37:36 AM
That's why we signed him! RVP! Well done United! At first I thought Ferdinand hit himself in the face when he was celebrating then I the commentator said he is hit with a coin.

Nasir thought he and RVP was still on the same side or wat?

Nah he was struck by something first.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on December 09, 2012, 09:38:05 AM
Nasri knew exactly what was comin.  Stand up and take it like yuh have balls nah man!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 09:38:11 AM
Nasri hide behind the wall like a little Hen

Nasri stealing money!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 09:38:27 AM
City's defending looked very suspect today, and every time Utd went forward, the red devils always looked likely to score.



They lost their captain and best defender to injury... what else yuh expect?  Not Hart's best day, while De Gea made some nice stops.  Mancini bounce he head by starting wasteman Balotelli over Tevez.

I agree. I didn't know what Mancini was thinking starting Balotelli over Tevez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 09:40:38 AM
Lucky friggin team... game marred by some spotty officiating at times, and definitely by the idiotic behavior of some of the City fans.  They threw something at Rooney from that same corner.  City take dah one on de chin like Pacquiao.

I could tell that Ferguson and Utd wanted to win badly and City was somewhat below par despite the sky blues' improved second half performance. I could tell when Ferguson brought Welbeck on, he was only prepared to accept one result...

I knew that City were in trouble when Tevez committed that foul about three yards outside the penalty area.

United got most of the bounces today... save for the disallowed Young goal and Van Persie off the post.  Rooney flubbed the first goal right into the net far post why Hart stand up rooted like he wearing cement boots.  Ref pull back play to card Rooney when Toure had a breakaway... Silva's shot off De Gea's shoulder, off the bar.  That was an unlucky foul by Tevez, accidental clip of the heels (probably regret not going down under Evra's challenge in the box)... then the slight deflection off Nasri in the wall.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 09:42:39 AM
I agree. I didn't know what Mancini was thinking starting Balotelli over Tevez.

I really not sure... Tevez was always going to be up for this derby.  I even made Tevez my fantasy captain over Michu betting that his impact would be huge... man had two assist in 39 minutes of play.  Balotelli had as many tantrums in that span.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 09:44:01 AM
Lucky friggin team... game marred by some spotty officiating at times, and definitely by the idiotic behavior of some of the City fans.  They threw something at Rooney from that same corner.  City take dah one on de chin like Pacquiao.

I could tell that Ferguson and Utd wanted to win badly and City was somewhat below par despite the sky blues' improved second half performance. I could tell when Ferguson brought Welbeck on, he was only prepared to accept one result...

I knew that City were in trouble when Tevez committed that foul about three yards outside the penalty area.

United got most of the bounces today... save for the disallowed Young goal and Van Persie off the post.  Rooney flubbed the first goal right into the net far post why Hart stand up rooted like he wearing cement boots.  Ref pull back play to card Rooney when Toure had a breakaway... Silva's shot off De Gea's shoulder, off the bar.  That was an unlucky foul by Tevez, accidental clip of the heels (probably regret not going down under Evra's challenge in the box)... then the slight deflection off Nasri in the wall.

Loud forkin steups!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Well after all is said and done, Ferguson has proven why he is one of the best managers to have been around English football. He may be an overbearing, arrogant individual at times, but the man knows how to push his team to get results. Any person who can break the Old Firm title duopoly in Scotland with Aberdeen has to be respected, albeit grudgingly.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 09, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
Only saw the last 20 mins but Mancini have to be a jokey coach starting Balotelli over Tevez...

First of all, Balotelli has been on vacation since the Euros he hasn't been serious about football all year. I understand that he had the impact in the 6-1 thrashing last year but come on, this is not the same Balo right now.. He needs to refocus, although I suspect he will be gone in January.

Tevez, from all the games I have seen has been City's best player all season yet for some reason Mancini keeps benching him to rotate his other strikers. It is not rocket science that the one game that Tevez will bring the fury of hell is against his old side Man Utd so why not start him?? Look at the man impact when he came on.

There was an article on Soccernet in the week that talked about how Man City is a team of brilliant individuals with no cohesion and style, and was a damning verdict on Mancini and I fully agree:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/511?cc=3888 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/511?cc=3888)

Outside with Mancini.

NB: Fergie is something else yes... All week in the press all we could hear about is that Man Utd were decimated by injuries to the midfield, with Cleverly definitely out and Valencia probably about 2 weeks away. 1 fit winger and a laboring midfield would make City favorites. Lo and behold Valencia and Cleverley running out fresh and spritey having miraculously recovered in time for kick off... Never fails lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 09, 2012, 10:06:41 AM
Only saw the last 20 mins but Mancini have to be a jokey coach starting Balotelli over Tevez...

First of all, Balotelli has been on vacation since the Euros he hasn't been serious about football all year. I understand that he had the impact in the 6-1 thrashing last year but come on, this is not the same Balo right now.. He needs to refocus, although I suspect he will be gone in January.

Tevez, from all the games I have seen has been City's best player all season yet for some reason Mancini keeps benching him to rotate his other strikers. It is not rocket science that the one game that Tevez will bring the fury of hell is against his old side Man Utd so why not start him?? Look at the man impact when he came on.

There was an article on Soccernet in the week that talked about how Man City is a team of brilliant individuals with no cohesion and style, and was a damning verdict on Mancini and I fully agree:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/511?cc=3888 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/511?cc=3888)

Outside with Mancini.


I am inclined to agree with you. I am of the opinion that City won the title last year in spite of Mancini, rather than because of him, and even then, the blues almost self-destructed towards the end of the season and had to depend on an uncharacteristic drop in form for Utd.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 10:18:34 AM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9rxDUsCUAMpBzs.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 09, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
I love how the haters does get a hard on when we win.... City got beat proper to today, there was no "Fergie time" or "referee buyout" by united. Instead man vex because Fergie tell the media he players injured and they turn out for the game lmao..allure eh easy yes!!!

On another note F@*k City and their sore loser fans!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 09, 2012, 02:10:32 PM
Lucky friggin team... game marred by some spotty officiating at times, and definitely by the idiotic behavior of some of the City fans.  They threw something at Rooney from that same corner.  City take dah one on de chin like Pacquiao.

I could tell that Ferguson and Utd wanted to win badly and City was somewhat below par despite the sky blues' improved second half performance. I could tell when Ferguson brought Welbeck on, he was only prepared to accept one result...

I knew that City were in trouble when Tevez committed that foul about three yards outside the penalty area.

United got most of the bounces today... save for the disallowed Young goal and Van Persie off the post.  Rooney flubbed the first goal right into the net far post why Hart stand up rooted like he wearing cement boots.  Ref pull back play to card Rooney when Toure had a breakaway... Silva's shot off De Gea's shoulder, off the bar.  That was an unlucky foul by Tevez, accidental clip of the heels (probably regret not going down under Evra's challenge in the box)... then the slight deflection off Nasri in the wall.
Don't forget the clear penalty that was committed on Evra by I think it was Toure
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on December 09, 2012, 03:17:06 PM
I soooo glad when I see Tevez eh start eh, Mancini being too smart for he own good:)

I wouldn't lie, Manu playing as if is ah movie script, dey really had to beat City like dat?!?!?!

I know Toure on Ezra was ah penalty from just watching it in real time, I glad Tevez didn't go down when Ezra gone running behind him like ah damn clown.

No 6-1 thrashing this year, no jokey skin-ah-de-teeth goal-difference Championship, Manu winning it with games in hand.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
Poetic Justice, could not script a better scene. When i see that goal score and i see the City boys bend over to cry ah say it good!!! revenge  :devil:

"We've done it to City in the past of course but this was special simply because they hadn't lost at home for two years” Sir Alex
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 04:28:06 PM
Poetic Justice, could not script a better scene. When i see that goal score and i see the City boys bend over to cry ah say it good!!! revenge  :devil:
"We've done it to City in the past of course but this was special simply because they hadn't lost at home for two years” Sir Alex


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Yuh had meh laughin wit dat one!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 09, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
Sidenote-Tell Rafael that John Travolta wants his hair style back. And Balotelli hairstyle have him lookin like a damn lizard!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on December 09, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
City's defending looked very suspect today, and every time Utd went forward, the red devils always looked likely to score.



They lost their captain and best defender to injury... what else yuh expect?  Not Hart's best day, while De Gea made some nice stops.  Mancini bounce he head by starting wasteman Balotelli over Tevez.

United without Vidic how long now?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 09, 2012, 05:25:19 PM
Kagawa missing too
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
City's defending looked very suspect today, and every time Utd went forward, the red devils always looked likely to score.



They lost their captain and best defender to injury... what else yuh expect?  Not Hart's best day, while De Gea made some nice stops.  Mancini bounce he head by starting wasteman Balotelli over Tevez.

United without Vidic how long now?

What de ass Vidic have to do with anything... he playing in Manchester City defense?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 10, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
Ah hear the city fans throw racial words at ferdinand. Really classy fans City have.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on December 13, 2012, 06:59:02 AM
Talk is ManU/Fergie looking to buy Rodrigues from Porto. Big big buy, this player have real potential. he is exciting, dynamic, penetrative & delivers good crosses.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 15, 2012, 09:19:30 AM
Nice game against Sunderland so far
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 23, 2012, 04:58:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/GKFSvy8J0mM
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 23, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
Who is that fella that was wiping Evra all over the field this morning?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 24, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
Talk is ManU/Fergie looking to buy Rodrigues from Porto. Big big buy, this player have real potential. he is exciting, dynamic, penetrative & delivers good crosses.

The world "owes" Porto eh ... they've passed on some sound ballers to the big guns. As yuh mention Rodriguez (saw him score a wicked free kick); I gather another possible Utd target is Benfica's Ola John.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on December 26, 2012, 09:33:27 AM
Jonny evans on fire!!  :pissedoff:  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on December 26, 2012, 10:00:27 AM
Good call by the ref doh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on December 26, 2012, 10:09:44 AM
Good call by the ref doh.

Let we see what Mike Dean do for Fergie in the second half
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on December 26, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
Good call by the ref doh.

Let we see what Mike Dean do for Fergie in the second half

If he was looking to do anything for Fergie period then he wouldnt have over ruled the assistant.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on December 26, 2012, 10:29:39 AM
ay ya yaiiii

this game going good... let we see now

shoot out at the OT corrall
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 11:15:27 AM
Best game I've see in years. The Mexican fight hard today. Well done team!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on December 26, 2012, 11:16:27 AM
(http://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/154760_531275856912635_1898503466_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 07:37:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/dUnzrOug2fU
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on December 26, 2012, 09:58:06 PM
Football like rain!!! It doesn't get any beter than this, best game!!

Chicarito is ah boss!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 28, 2012, 04:14:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/tlFk736ucD8
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on December 28, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/tlFk736ucD8

This dude shows why Man United fans does live in an alternate reality.  :bs:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 29, 2012, 07:09:43 AM
Ferguson full of shit... any other manager and they was getting fined.  But serves Pardew right, last week he was kissing Fergie ass saying he right for waylaying Ashley Williams on the RVP ball to head, now Ferguson shitting him up in the press.  Good fuh him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 29, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
Must give credit where it is due. Carrick has been handlimg his business in midfield. He appears to be the midfielder Fergie trust the most game in and game out. And appears to be at his best when he has younger legs playing around/along side him. And he doesn´t have to do more than his talent allows him to do. Not a great player but a player when paired with the right teammates is able to play to his strength.                                                                                                                                                     Van Persie is priceless! Glad to see my boi DeGea getting a consistent run!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on December 30, 2012, 07:19:56 AM
What else is there to say about RVP, my goodness!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 30, 2012, 10:22:36 AM
RVP seems to love the quality of passes he is getting. The Quality around him is making him even more deadly
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 30, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
RVP seems to love the quality of passes he is getting. The Quality around him is making him even more deadly

I don't think the quality of passes have been better than when he played with Cesc and even last season with Song setting him up.Even Fergie said that his United teammates not consistently picking up his runs as they should. So RVP could be wey more deadly-ah feel Kagawa is the man who will be consistently setting him up-his football sense on par with RVP. Rooney has football sense but he to damn inconsistent with his passing game.
 I think he may be enjoying playing with players who have heart and are committed to the cause. Also playing for and under Fergie who he reports is very motivating in his approach.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 30, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
whey Nani ? he injured?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on December 30, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
whey Nani ? he injured?
BUss up...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on December 30, 2012, 05:17:48 PM
whey Nani ? he injured?
BUss up...

In Dubai recuperating.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/dec/30/nani-manchester-united-rumours-rubbished?CMP=twt_gu
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on December 30, 2012, 07:26:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/tlFk736ucD8

This dude shows why Man United fans does live in an alternate reality.  :bs:

Like Chelski fans regarding JT-Captain, Leader, Legend? That kind of reality?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 30, 2012, 09:27:27 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on January 01, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
WAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!

RVP, I doh know what again to say bout dis fellah nah.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
Rvp wow!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2013, 10:21:20 AM
Hernandez punishing Wigan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on January 01, 2013, 11:56:52 AM
RVP is a machine boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 01, 2013, 12:31:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/-En34KT7dy8

http://www.youtube.com/v/QG-A-ZZBwTc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 05, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
But allyuh aint see Valencia actually cross the ball TWICE with his LEFT FOOT?  :o  Ah guess since defenders figured out he so right foot dependant he realize he hata try ah ting. Hope fully he learnin from RVP. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 05, 2013, 05:51:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/wDAZKEmaOVc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on January 05, 2013, 08:16:01 PM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 11, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/_Fn-hAXfu54

http://www.youtube.com/v/oAQchplITOQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/O69STykzD-k
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 07:19:03 AM
Liverpool! Today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 13, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
Job done! Well done fellas!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
2-1 win.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 13, 2013, 09:33:11 AM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2013, 09:39:02 AM
Didn't get nothing from midfield in the first half... on attempt on goal (that wasn't even on target) all first half.  The Sturridge sub changed the game.  Good buy so far.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 13, 2013, 09:40:51 AM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

Kagawa is not a 90 minute man in the EPL yet. If Fergie wanted to press the score he would have brought on Ando to play behind RVP. Once we scored the second goal, man relax, tempo and concentration level drop. DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 09:47:17 AM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

 DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.

I'm sure the special one watching that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 13, 2013, 12:00:48 PM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

 DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.

I'm sure the special one watching that.


There is really little else a GK can do, especially when they have to get down, outstretched so quickly for them low, hard shots.  Is either parry or "catch" them and parrying them really allows less control over where the ball goes than most people think.  This is why so much of GK training involves getting back up on one's feet as quickly as possible.  If yuh talkin' 'bout pushing the ball 'round the posts, yuh cyah really do that with a shot coming straight down the middle of the goal.  That is far easier achieved with shots closer to the post that require just a slight deflection to clear the target. Anything more than slight deflections is only bring the ball back into play.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 13, 2013, 12:16:20 PM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

 DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.

I'm sure the special one watching that.


There is really little else a GK can do, especially when they have to get down, outstretched so quickly for them low, hard shots.  Is either parry or "catch" them and parrying them really allows less control over where the ball goes than most people think.  This is why so much of GK training involves getting back up on one's feet as quickly as possible.  If yuh talkin' 'bout pushing the ball 'round the posts, yuh cyah really do that with a shot coming straight down the middle of the goal.  That is far easier achieved with shots closer to the post that require just a slight deflection to clear the target. Anything more than slight deflections is only bring the ball back into play.   

I see how this shot was closer to his armpits which may have made it hard for him to get length and power when he made the save. But this is the third goal that has scored from him parrying balls straight back into play. I could remember Van Der Sar doing it once and that was against Liverpool in his last season. And I was shock because he is quality. I do think DeGea's defenders need to do a better job of picking up players if the ball comes back out front. So I think it is a combination of defender and goalie not doing the job.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 12:20:01 PM
He would have to push it wide. But at the split second u don't get much chance to sort out yuh reaction plan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 13, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

 DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.

I'm sure the special one watching that.


There is really little else a GK can do, especially when they have to get down, outstretched so quickly for them low, hard shots.  Is either parry or "catch" them and parrying them really allows less control over where the ball goes than most people think.  This is why so much of GK training involves getting back up on one's feet as quickly as possible.  If yuh talkin' 'bout pushing the ball 'round the posts, yuh cyah really do that with a shot coming straight down the middle of the goal.  That is far easier achieved with shots closer to the post that require just a slight deflection to clear the target. Anything more than slight deflections is only bring the ball back into play.   

I see how this shot was closer to his armpits which may have made it hard for him to get length and power when he made the save. But this is the third goal that has scored from him parrying balls straight back into play. I could remember Van Der Sar doing it once and that was against Liverpool in his last season. And I was shock because he is quality. I do think DeGea's defenders need to do a better job of picking up players if the ball comes back out front. So I think it is a combination of defender and goalie not doing the job.

  You making it seem like there's a clear cut formula/method for where you can parry a ball in what direction...it's not that easy. If you look around all the leagues, GK's parry shots back in play all the time and I'm sure vds did it more than once himself, you just may not have seen it....or yuh jes' biased fuh de Dutchman.  Shots come in all directions at all speeds with all kinda other factors to them....GK's have to do whatever they can to keep the ball out the net (and it's no secret that "whatever they can" don't always work, it's not supposed to) and defenders have to mark men off their 'keeper.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 01:08:10 PM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 13, 2013, 04:09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/5YDsqw9K-zk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on January 13, 2013, 07:02:51 PM
Yeah
ManU almost let Liverpool back into the game. Must admit I did not understand Rogers line up in terms of positions
first half. ManU look very dangerous in the first half, Kagawa supported RVP well, but once he went off, ManU looked uncertain in possession & RVP get isolated

Question: Evra headed the ball forward against Vidic. Offside?

 DeGea disapppointing me with these parries he keep pushing back into play. I expect better, because he is fundamentally sound keeper. i could see sides making that a part of their game to create scoring chances.

I'm sure the special one watching that.


There is really little else a GK can do, especially when they have to get down, outstretched so quickly for them low, hard shots.  Is either parry or "catch" them and parrying them really allows less control over where the ball goes than most people think.  This is why so much of GK training involves getting back up on one's feet as quickly as possible.  If yuh talkin' 'bout pushing the ball 'round the posts, yuh cyah really do that with a shot coming straight down the middle of the goal.  That is far easier achieved with shots closer to the post that require just a slight deflection to clear the target. Anything more than slight deflections is only bring the ball back into play.   

I see how this shot was closer to his armpits which may have made it hard for him to get length and power when he made the save. But this is the third goal that has scored from him parrying balls straight back into play. I could remember Van Der Sar doing it once and that was against Liverpool in his last season. And I was shock because he is quality. I do think DeGea's defenders need to do a better job of picking up players if the ball comes back out front. So I think it is a combination of defender and goalie not doing the job.

  You making it seem like there's a clear cut formula/method for where you can parry a ball in what direction...it's not that easy. If you look around all the leagues, GK's parry shots back in play all the time and I'm sure vds did it more than once himself, you just may not have seen it....or yuh jes' biased fuh de Dutchman.  Shots come in all directions at all speeds with all kinda other factors to them....GK's have to do whatever they can to keep the ball out the net (and it's no secret that "whatever they can" don't always work, it's not supposed to) and defenders have to mark men off their 'keeper.

See I was wondering bout dat too when the announcer start talking up in he cyat today...I just think that this is one of those things that happen twice in quick succession so it seems as though this is a huge issue with him?
I don't think it is, it's just on of those things that happen I guess, If the defender had stayed and tackled his man, this would have been a good save from a good Gerrard shot. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on January 14, 2013, 07:32:34 PM
It looked to me like he shoulda tried to smother de shot and recover to pounce on it if it was too much to catch initially. He doesn't trust his defenders to follow up and either screen attackers or clear de ball it seems, so he just tries to block some of these shots away from de goal and the rebounds go anywhere. Ah cyah say ah blame him with Evra and Rafael trying to be wingers and reacting late on defense so many times. Still wanna buss Rafael head for dat Everton 4-4 game dat start de problems at de end of last season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 14, 2013, 07:57:54 PM
Cah smother that boss, it came too hard and hit the lower wrist by the joint, that will always bounce out. Maybe if he got it on his fingers it would have been able to push wide or behind. Or flush on the palm where it would of had more cushion. So many things can happen. But in all occasions none of his defenders gave him any cover, they all stood flat footed watching the ball. You will only know the stress when u actually save in a real game, it not that easy as it looks.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 15, 2013, 09:41:32 AM
So allyuh didnt realise Rio was blinding him and he see it late on top of all dat?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2013, 10:57:23 AM
I love my DeGea. I wouldn't take any other keeper in the EPL over him. He will be the best in the EPL in a year and a half.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 15, 2013, 11:16:48 AM
I love my DeGea. I wouldn't take any other keeper in the EPL over him. He will be the best in the EPL in a year and a half.

 The great Peter Schmeicel came to ManU at 28 yrs old. Edwin Van De Sar came at 35 yrs old. Keepers take a long time to mature, DeGea is a pup.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 15, 2013, 11:20:57 AM
I may seem bias eh but Peter and Edwin is the best I've seen. Peter was a pitbull though, Keane and he was some rel beast.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2013, 11:34:31 AM
I may seem bias eh but Peter and Edwin is the best I've seen. Peter was a pitbull though, Keane and he was some rel beast.

Peter and Keane in your side-nobody pushin your team around.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on January 15, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Cah smother that boss, it came too hard and hit the lower wrist by the joint, that will always bounce out. Maybe if he got it on his fingers it would have been able to push wide or behind. Or flush on the palm where it would of had more cushion. So many things can happen. But in all occasions none of his defenders gave him any cover, they all stood flat footed watching the ball. You will only know the stress when u actually save in a real game, it not that easy as it looks.

I not attacking DeGea eh, I just saying that Gerrard was outside the D on top de box and didn't really get all on that shot. Yes, he may have seen it a bit late because of the challenging defender, but de real top goalkeepers handle that better a high percentage of time. Once yuh hands close to that ball you can take de pace off the ball if yuh not confident of catching and securing, to make sure it doesn't go past you, but it also doesn't rebound too far. I like DeGea as de #1 and he is usually a good shot stopper, but that play is not how top notch international starters do dey thing in my humble opinion
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 15, 2013, 05:34:50 PM
Yeah he still shakey, personally I prefer Lindegard
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
Yeah he still shakey, personally I prefer Lindegard

 :shameonyou: no way Lindegard better than Degea. Half the saves DeGea has made to keep United in matches or maintain leads Lindergard would not have been able to touch. Like I have stated the before the only edge Lindegard has on DeGea is that he has more of a physical prescence. And even with that I see in a game earlier this year he looked like DeGea last year flailing for crosses. DeGea has improved this year with his punching, collecting crosses and battling in the box. Lindegard needs to stay right where he is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 15, 2013, 06:55:48 PM
Stueps. We agree to disagree.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 15, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Stueps. We agree to disagree.

No scene
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
FA cup replay, West Ham. On Fsc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 02:08:40 PM
Lindegard playing :) nani too lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 02:15:35 PM
Rooney scores
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 16, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Question regarding the Manchester United succession planning: what's so special about David Moyes?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 16, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Question regarding the Manchester United succession planning: what's so special about David Moyes?

I'm not a huge fan but he's admired around the EPL for having always kept his club close to contention despite not having the same resources (and support) that other managers have had.  I have to agree, they never spend a whole lot, I think what they did in bringing in Frei and Mirallas in the past two windows probably represents their biggest expenditure under him, and even those were modest buys.  In terms of style, philosophy and tactics I'll leave that up to those much more qualified to weigh in.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 16, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
Well, ah know Fergie likes him because he's a Scot and yeah he has a steady hand over Everton ... Buh what ah heck of a calculus when the pundits have the play book reading:

1. Pep
2. Mourinho
3. Moyes

Hmmmm.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
Everton is one club i respect dread, bitches burn us a few times
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 16, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
Rooney delivers a Sergio Ramos special from the penalty spot against the hammers.

Oh well, these things happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 16, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
Boring game...Nani was poor, but then again he just. Came off injury to his credit.
Giggs is class!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 20, 2013, 10:26:32 AM
one chance, one goal, one nil! RVP the machine!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 20, 2013, 11:09:07 AM
Aye! De Gea save that shot from dempsey like a boss wow
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 20, 2013, 11:10:09 AM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy


RVP is a machine boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 20, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
5pt lead now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on January 20, 2013, 11:55:46 AM
a bit hard to swallow but fair results!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 20, 2013, 11:59:03 AM
Lol... De Gea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 20, 2013, 12:00:55 PM
Lol... De Gea

Boy i holding meh mouth eh, But i glad someone say it. While i give him the benefit of a doubt most times. It things like that which makes Lindegard a better keeper IMO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 20, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
Man Utd gets a taste of its own medicine: a late goal in stoppage time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 20, 2013, 02:21:21 PM
Lol... De Gea

Boy i holding meh mouth eh, But i glad someone say it. While i give him the benefit of a doubt most times. It things like that which makes Lindegard a better keeper IMO

I actually have nutten against the fella, he show resilience where others might have wilted... but there just is no papering over his very obvious flaws.  Before that play, there was a cross that came in late, he went up alone unchallenged and delivered a nice two-fisted punch... but easily coulda grab the ball.  Man frail and fraid tuh take lash... everybody knows it but those who refuse to acknowledge it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 20, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
Did not like the Jones in midfield and Cleverly being substituted. Kagawa was invisible for most of his playing time today. I must give credit to Tottenham, they deserved a draw. Lennon tortured Evra the entire game, and looked like scoring or setting up the equalizer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2013, 04:08:10 PM
Supposedly he is United's latest signing


http://youtu.be/9YwHqagTKis
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
DeGea has preserved enough victories for United or earned them a point. Shite happens, he will continue to improve. Nuff said.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on January 21, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
Supposedly he is United's latest signing


http://youtu.be/9YwHqagTKis

Man bring him on board man!!

Sell Nani AND Ashley Young!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2013, 06:52:28 PM

Van Persi's interview on Skysports

http://bcove.me/t47izctr
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 21, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Supposedly he is United's latest signing


http://youtu.be/9YwHqagTKis

Man bring him on board man!!

Sell Nani AND Ashley Young!!!!!

Young yes-Nani no. Valencia need to get competition from Nani for the right wing spot. Force him to use his damn left foot man.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 21, 2013, 11:01:56 PM
Premier League: Ten Talking Points from This Weekend's Action (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/21/ten-talking-points-premier-league):

"10) There are bad losers and then there is Ferguson

The talking points from Manchester United's matches could always be the same after they have not won. However it has come about, Sir Alex Ferguson has it in for one official or another, deflecting failure from his team and himself. It was the same again at White Hart Lane on Sunday – a fine sporting occasion marred by one unsporting man. As managers of less successful clubs rightly know, for all the claims that these things – arguable judgments and misfortunes – level out over a season, the bigger clubs on balance get the better rub of the official green. Ferguson's attempts to influence referees before matches have belatedly been constrained this season. His remarks afterwards continue to shame a club whose play before and during his reign have given more pleasure than most. Pity."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2013, 08:19:07 AM
Premier League: Ten Talking Points from This Weekend's Action (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/21/ten-talking-points-premier-league):

"10) There are bad losers and then there is Ferguson

The talking points from Manchester United's matches could always be the same after they have not won. However it has come about, Sir Alex Ferguson has it in for one official or another, deflecting failure from his team and himself. It was the same again at White Hart Lane on Sunday – a fine sporting occasion marred by one unsporting man. As managers of less successful clubs rightly know, for all the claims that these things – arguable judgments and misfortunes – level out over a season, the bigger clubs on balance get the better rub of the official green. Ferguson's attempts to influence referees before matches have belatedly been constrained this season. His remarks afterwards continue to shame a club whose play before and during his reign have given more pleasure than most. Pity."

While I agree that Fergie does shit like this, I have to say, so too does alot of managers when their team losses. You rarely hear them criticize an official when their team wins. This was in my opinion a bias blog, nothing more.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2013, 08:22:36 AM
Supposedly he is United's latest signing


http://youtu.be/9YwHqagTKis

Man bring him on board man!!

Sell Nani AND Ashley Young!!!!!

Young yes-Nani no. Valencia need to get competition from Nani for the right wing spot. Force him to use his damn left foot man.
Valencia has been poor in the last two games, not sure whats going on with him. Nani, just came off injury, willing to give him a couple games to see how he does. I watched the clip of Zaha, and honesty, I don't see anything to suggest that he is better than Nani or Young. He could be just another over rated-highly priced English youth.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on January 22, 2013, 09:46:46 AM
Zaha make meh remember Dempsey when ah first see him, I LOVED de way he liked to take men on and try all kinda fancy dribble, like if he feel he could beat ANYBODY...and well with dat attitude things kinda work out ok for Dempsey.

Bottom line, if Zaha come to United he WILL be a star!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 22, 2013, 09:54:08 AM
Premier League: Ten Talking Points from This Weekend's Action (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/21/ten-talking-points-premier-league):

"10) There are bad losers and then there is Ferguson

The talking points from Manchester United's matches could always be the same after they have not won. However it has come about, Sir Alex Ferguson has it in for one official or another, deflecting failure from his team and himself. It was the same again at White Hart Lane on Sunday – a fine sporting occasion marred by one unsporting man. As managers of less successful clubs rightly know, for all the claims that these things – arguable judgments and misfortunes – level out over a season, the bigger clubs on balance get the better rub of the official green. Ferguson's attempts to influence referees before matches have belatedly been constrained this season. His remarks afterwards continue to shame a club whose play before and during his reign have given more pleasure than most. Pity."


Mourinho is the same. When Real losing is everybody against them, the Federation, Referee Association, referees, even Unicef and Nato  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2013, 10:38:30 AM
Premier League: Ten Talking Points from This Weekend's Action (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/21/ten-talking-points-premier-league):

"10) There are bad losers and then there is Ferguson

The talking points from Manchester United's matches could always be the same after they have not won. However it has come about, Sir Alex Ferguson has it in for one official or another, deflecting failure from his team and himself. It was the same again at White Hart Lane on Sunday – a fine sporting occasion marred by one unsporting man. As managers of less successful clubs rightly know, for all the claims that these things – arguable judgments and misfortunes – level out over a season, the bigger clubs on balance get the better rub of the official green. Ferguson's attempts to influence referees before matches have belatedly been constrained this season. His remarks afterwards continue to shame a club whose play before and during his reign have given more pleasure than most. Pity."


Mourinho is the same. When Real losing is everybody against them, the Federation, Referee Association, referees, even Unicef and Nato  ;D
Mourinho will fit in nicely at United then.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 22, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
While I agree that Fergie does shit like this, I have to say, so too does alot of managers when their team losses. You rarely hear them criticize an official when their team wins. This was in my opinion a bias blog, nothing more.

You can't be serious.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2013, 01:57:08 PM
The great Schmeichel also made mistakes.

http://youtu.be/Fk-TRewbCZg
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
Peter is god.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 22, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
Peter is god.

Yep, but he wasn't perfect and had a way better defense in front off him. Give DeGea a chance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 23, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
Man Utd’s de Gea receives backing from England great Banks

Submitted by Andrew Slevison on Wed, 01/23/2013 - 20:30


England’s World Cup-winning goalkeeper Gordon Banks has leapt to the defence of Manchester United’s David de Gea.
 
The 22-year old Spaniard was lambasted by TV pundit Gary Neville after he failed to punch clear a late ball in last weekend’s 1-1 draw with Tottenham, allowing Clint Dempsey to score an injury-time equaliser.
 
Neville suggested the United players would get on de Gea’s back in the dressing room after the game but Banks feels that type of behaviour is a bit harsh for a young keeper.
 
"I was very upset to hear Gary Neville talking about how the players were disgusted with him (De Gea), how they were looking at him, after he hadn't punched the ball quite clear enough,” he told Press Association Sport.
 
"I thought to myself, 'hang on a minute, it's not just the goalkeeper that makes mistakes, everybody makes mistakes in football matches'.
 
"He's got very good reflexes, makes excellent saves you think other goalkeepers probably wouldn't have got.
 
"He's got lots of years left yet. What he needs to do is to practice on the crosses as much as he possibly can.
 
"I used to practice on my weaker things as much as I possibly could and it certainly did help me.
 
"It's much more difficult for a goalkeeper playing in today's game. The ball is moving all over the place.
 
"For me, that ball has taken a lot of the art of goalkeeping out of the game. I do feel sorry for goalkeepers today."
 
 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 23, 2013, 06:22:42 PM
Questions raised about De Gea's future at United...

Quote
On Sky Sports Monday Night Football [Gary] Neville, the network's chief pundit, freeze-framed the immediate aftermath of Dempsey's strike to offer a post-mortem in which he claimed three of De Gea's disgruntled team-mates glared in blame at the goalkeeper.

"It's unforgiving, that dressing room," Neville said. "The idea that they go in after and it's a case of: 'Unlucky mate, let's have a drink.' That is not that place. Anybody is misguided if they believe that is what happens."

Neville pointed to his screen. "I want to draw your attention to Nemanja Vidic. He's got the stare on at De Gea. I want you to now watch Patrice Evra, he's not saying, 'Hiya mate, you alright?' He's furious because they've given a goal away, he's looking at his goalkeeper: 'What have you done?'"

...Continue to watch Vidic, watch his eyes – he stares at him for three, four, five, seconds. It's not because he fancies him."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/22/manchester-united-david-de-gea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 23, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
Only a matter of time. If it continues he is getting benched for a while.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 24, 2013, 07:40:13 AM
Steups.

Replace De Gea with who? How old is he? Give de man time...I doh hear dis degree of noise when Joe Hart make some mistake.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 24, 2013, 07:49:42 AM
Lindegard as usual. U think fergie fraid to bench that donut theif
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 24, 2013, 10:49:39 AM
Wilfried Zaha: Manchester United set to complete £15m deal BBC

Wilfried Zaha will undergo a medical with Manchester United in the next 48 hours before completing a £15m move from Crystal Palace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21180202
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 24, 2013, 11:53:32 AM
Steups.

Replace De Gea with who? How old is he? Give de man time...I doh hear dis degree of noise when Joe Hart make some mistake.

How often yuh does hear of (or see) Joe Hart make mistake?  Take off the blinkers man.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 24, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
Steups.

Replace De Gea with who? How old is he? Give de man time...I doh hear dis degree of noise when Joe Hart make some mistake.

How often yuh does hear of (or see) Joe Hart make mistake?  Take off the blinkers man.


I still willing to give him time cause of his age. De Gea is 22. Hart is 25. If this summer he bulk up a bit...get more assertive in crosses....he go be good.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 24, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
Steups.

Replace De Gea with who? How old is he? Give de man time...I doh hear dis degree of noise when Joe Hart make some mistake.

How often yuh does hear of (or see) Joe Hart make mistake?  Take off the blinkers man.


I still willing to give him time cause of his age. De Gea is 22. Hart is 25. If this summer he bulk up a bit...get more assertive in crosses....he go be good.

DeGea will be great! He has skills that cannot be taught, and like you said the areas he may be weak in can be strengthened.
  If United give up on him now, they will regret it in a year or two. I will be so damn vex if we do that. We need to keep DeGea as long as he wants to keep playing in England, to continue to grow with the other under 25s in the club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 24, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
I still willing to give him time cause of his age. De Gea is 22. Hart is 25. If this summer he bulk up a bit...get more assertive in crosses....he go be good.

I don't disagree... it would be foolish to get rid of him now, not only because of the financial investment, but also because he still very young.  I was more responding to the Hart comparison... two of them is night and day at this point.  I think a smart thing to do might be to loan him out to a side like Soton who in dire need of a keeper.  The crucible of Old Trafford might be too much for him at this particular point of his development.  Either that or you hold onto him and live with his mistakes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 24, 2013, 05:45:14 PM
Like I say yuh buy Lindegard who is much more stable. Then yuh bench him. DeGea suppose to be second choice right now, till his shit is sorted
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on January 25, 2013, 07:09:47 AM
Like I say yuh buy Lindegard who is much more stable. Then yuh bench him. DeGea suppose to be second choice right now, till his shit is sorted


I was suprised by that...especially as Lindergard is 28. He more confident. But de kinda reflex saves De Gea does put down...and I talking bout saves where he blinded and see it late and all kinda ting....NAH! Yuh cyar teach that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2013, 07:24:53 AM
True eh. But you doh see Lindegard fumbling them thing. I think playing DeGea is hurting his confidence.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 25, 2013, 07:55:35 AM
Many things have to be looked at when judging a keeper, NOT the least the quality of defending in front of the keeper.
Statistics can be deceiving, so I will let everyone draw their own conclusions

ManU have given up an astonishing 30 goals already this season, in comparison Man City have given up 19.

DeGea stats shows he has given up 19 goals, making 61 saves and facing 77 shots on goal. (1350 minutes played)

Hart stats shows that he has also given up 19 goals, making 41 saves and facing 61 shots on goal (2070 minutes played)

The goalkeepers seem almost balanced statistically. What ii does show is ManU's defending is questionable, while allowing way more shots on goal, if you consider minutes played.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2013, 08:14:24 AM
You have stats for Lindegard?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2013, 02:04:51 PM
Peter defends DeGea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjqRPHT8Cfs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 25, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
Many things have to be looked at when judging a keeper, NOT the least the quality of defending in front of the keeper.
Statistics can be deceiving, so I will let everyone draw their own conclusions

ManU have given up an astonishing 30 goals already this season, in comparison Man City have given up 19.

DeGea stats shows he has given up 19 goals, making 61 saves and facing 77 shots on goal. (1350 minutes played)

Hart stats shows that he has also given up 19 goals, making 41 saves and facing 61 shots on goal (2070 minutes played)

The goalkeepers seem almost balanced statistically. What ii does show is ManU's defending is questionable, while allowing way more shots on goal, if you consider minutes played.

This is all well and good... but remember the initial comparison had to do with MISTAKES that each has made.  Yeah, De Gea has had more work to do than Hart... but how many of those extra shots on goal he save were the results of parries right back into the path of a striker, or a cross he could have handled better?  I'm not saying that any of these shots necessarily were the result of such, but certainly DeGea has made more mistakes on crosses and rebounds.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 25, 2013, 08:46:22 PM
Fergie defends DeGea now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB-AKLpWTfk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 25, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
You have stats for Lindegard?

The stats are only for the top 20 ranked in the league
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 25, 2013, 09:43:22 PM
Many things have to be looked at when judging a keeper, NOT the least the quality of defending in front of the keeper.
Statistics can be deceiving, so I will let everyone draw their own conclusions

ManU have given up an astonishing 30 goals already this season, in comparison Man City have given up 19.

DeGea stats shows he has given up 19 goals, making 61 saves and facing 77 shots on goal. (1350 minutes played)

Hart stats shows that he has also given up 19 goals, making 41 saves and facing 61 shots on goal (2070 minutes played)

The goalkeepers seem almost balanced statistically. What ii does show is ManU's defending is questionable, while allowing way more shots on goal, if you consider minutes played.

This is all well and good... but remember the initial comparison had to do with MISTAKES that each has made.  Yeah, De Gea has had more work to do than Hart... but how many of those extra shots on goal he save were the results of parries right back into the path of a striker, or a cross he could have handled better?  I'm not saying that any of these shots necessarily were the result of such, but certainly DeGea has made more mistakes on crosses and rebounds.

Understandable, but the facts remain the same. Devils advocate. How many of the initial shots were due to poor defending in the first place  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 25, 2013, 10:36:21 PM
Understandable, but the facts remain the same. Devils advocate. How many of the initial shots were due to poor defending in the first place  ;D

Hard to say of course... but City's defense has been the steadier of the two, so yeah... as I conceded, DeGea has had more work to do, of the two.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 26, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
Good ref  :devil: 1nil UTD vs Fulham
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 26, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
Glad Rooney off penalty duties. He need tuh understand his strengths and limintations as player and focus on what he does well. Hustle yuh arse off and keep it simple. Leave the one twos, for players who have touch and the dribbling tuh players who have the skills to do it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 26, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Hernandez the poacher
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 26, 2013, 01:24:59 PM
Nice win-good to see Ando and Nani back. Time tuh put a run together and bag some trophies!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 26, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/ec6CtduvM3s&

https://www.youtube.com/v/CY5Mp4iD_xA&
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on January 27, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Hernandez reminds me of Inzagi. Always playing off the shoulder and looking to get behind the lines.
A real menace for defenders, and yes he can finish.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 27, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
Question regarding the Manchester United succession planning: what's so special about David Moyes?

I'm not a huge fan but he's admired around the EPL for having always kept his club close to contention despite not having the same resources (and support) that other managers have had.  I have to agree, they never spend a whole lot, I think what they did in bringing in Frei and Mirallas in the past two windows probably represents their biggest expenditure under him, and even those were modest buys.  In terms of style, philosophy and tactics I'll leave that up to those much more qualified to weigh in.

Well, ah know Fergie likes him because he's a Scot and yeah he has a steady hand over Everton ... Buh what ah heck of a calculus when the pundits have the play book reading:

1. Pep
2. Mourinho
3. Moyes

Hmmmm.

Everton marvel Moyes reaches 500 not out
Published: Friday 25 January 2013, 15.28CET

If you have read the UK sports pages this week you will have done well not to find words of praise for David Moyes, who on Saturday takes charge of his 500th Everton FC game away to Bolton Wanderers FC in the FA Cup fourth round.

Only Harry Catterick oversaw more matches (592) during a single spell as Everton manager, from 1961–73, when his Mersey Millionaires captured two English league championships and an FA Cup. Moyes, nearly 11 years in the job, still has to bring silverware to Goodison Park yet his achievements hold a value of their own.

The 49-year-old Glaswegian was appointed in March 2002, with Everton – their 1995 FA Cup win excepted – having spent the worst part of a decade in decline. Moyes was one of the game's bright young bosses after leading Preston North End FC from the third division to within 90 minutes of the Premier League; Preston lost that promotion play-off, so it has been with another venerable footballing institution that Moyes has made his mark.

Under his tutelage, Everton have been the sixth-best team in England in terms of points won, finishing seventh or higher in seven of the Scot's ten full campaigns at the helm, with fourth place in 2004/05 the pinnacle. Their FA Cup final and UEFA Champions League play-off appearances were tainted by defeat, however.

One reporter wrote this week that Everton would be serious title contenders under Moyes in any other era of the national game. After all, the Blues' record of nine championships is bettered by only Manchester United FC, Liverpool FC and Arsenal FC; cyclical success is in the Goodison DNA. And Moyes, with his steely will and attention to detail, certainly evokes those master team builders of football past who grabbed hold of clubs and drove them to unforeseen heights.

However, with Everton owned by Liverpool-born theatre impresario Bill Kenwright in an age of foreign billionaires, frustrating transfer windows have been a recurring theme of Moyes's tenure. These have often interrupted Everton's development, causing slow starts to seasons; once they get going, though, a Moyes side can be hard to stop. The good news this term is that the Toffees, with just three defeats in their last 32 league matches, are already fifth in the table, three points off fourth, and equally keen to progress in the FA Cup.

It could prove a defining campaign. Named manager of the year three times by his peers (2003, 2005 and 2009), Moyes's contract expires this summer, though talks on a new deal are promised shortly. Whatever the outcome, his Everton legacy looks secure. If his predecessors applied the club's Latin motto of Nil Satis Nisi Optimum (nothing satisfies but the best) in lifting trophies, he has done so in creating a culture of excellence in which only the very best from every member of staff will do.

Moreover, in consistently making signings you would describe as 'low cost, low maintenance but high yield', he has not just made a virtue of financial necessity but has positively invited a cause for canonisation. While the home-grown Wayne Rooney alighted early, many Moyes proteges stayed for the ride, with Goodison witnessing the best years of Thomas Gravesen, Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta and Steven Pienaar, plus three defenders the manager helped turn into England internationals – Joleon Lescott, Phil Jagielka and Leighton Baines.

Add to endemic loyalty Moyes's honesty and integrity, and Everton – appropriately for European top-flight football's longest-serving club – state a strong case for the game's traditional values. If nothing else under Moyes, it has been a moral victory

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=eng/news/newsid=1913631.html#moyes+reaches+mark
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 28, 2013, 03:21:31 PM
Report: Man U value exceeds $3 billion

Manchester United has become the first sports team in the world to be valued at more than $3 billion, Forbes Magazine reported Monday.

A surge in the club's shares after a poor start when they were offered on the New York Stock Exchange in August has seen the overall value of United rise to $3.3 billion.

According to Forbes, United is comfortably ahead of the world's second-most-valuable sports team, the NFL's Dallas Cowboys, worth $2.1 billion.

The United shares were initially offered to the public at $14 and are now worth just under $17. The market cap -- or the outstanding value of the team's market share -- is $2.78 billion.

The demand for shares of the 19-time English champion grew due to better earnings and new sponsorship deals with Japan's Kansai and China Construction Bank, despite a drop in first-quarter earnings because of a reduction in television revenue.

Demand for shares may continue due to the club's EPL standings and Champions League potential.

It means a huge increase in the overall wealth of the Glazer family, who have a controlling interest in United, and billionaire investor George Soros -- the 22nd richest person in the world -- who bought a 7.5 percent stake in the club.

The Glazers sold 10 percent of their shares in the initial public offering sale in August but United vice chairman Ed Woodward insisted in October the family will not sell the club for "many, many years" despite ongoing interest.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1316723/manchester-united-richest-sports-team-at-$3-billion,-says-report?cc=5901
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 28, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 29, 2013, 03:37:45 PM
City draw 0-0 with qpr
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 30, 2013, 02:04:43 PM
DeGea, DeGea. What a horrible blunder, no excuse for that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 30, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
I'll defend DeGea.....don't care about that stupid "blunder".  That was a shit back pass by Carrick. DeGea is young and will get better with time, everyone is always beating up on him because of the club he is at. There is big expectations for someone coming into that position ,and they expect more from him. He has made some big saves in the past, and saves us from a loss. So these cock suckers for commentators could go F@* k themselves.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 30, 2013, 03:39:32 PM
The man has issues that need sorting. Is only a matter of time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 30, 2013, 03:51:25 PM
3 points
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
I'll defend DeGea.....don't care about that stupid "blunder".  That was a shit back pass by Carrick. DeGea is young and will get better with time, everyone is always beating up on him because of the club he is at. There is big expectations for someone coming into that position ,and they expect more from him. He has made some big saves in the past, and saves us from a loss. So these cock suckers for commentators could go F@* k themselves.

Lord if he was English dey would have been talking about what an outstanding young goalie he is. I wish dey would pong Rooney the same way everytime he mistrap, or lose the ball because he try tuh pass tru a maze of legs, or lose the ball tryin tuh dribble and turn into the defender. I have seen Rooney play a pack of shite, and dey still give him a 8. Typical English press, pong the foreigners but give the locals a bli. By the way, most of the comments I have read from United fans have been positive and supportive of DeGea. They recognise his skills and he has the potential to be great in a couple of years. Of course the defense in front of him has not always been the strongest this year and it reflects in the number of goals that have been scored against. Last year his biggest issue was crosses and he had a better defense in front of him and thus he let in less goals.

I would prefer DeGea to stay on the pitch than get send off in an effort to recuse that back pass from Carrick by making a rash tackle in that one on one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on January 30, 2013, 04:59:44 PM
In De Gea defense, poor fellah it look like he know he couldn't hold dat crazy back pass from Carrick, and also he didn't want to make a cacahole tackle to give way ah penalty and probably get ah red card, so I feel sorry for him dis time.

Football is something else yes, had Carrick just cleared dat ball, we woulda instead be talking bout de shot he spill and then re-collect later on...also if he own defender didn't get in his way, he woulda punch de ball away against Tottenham, no Dempsey equalizer:)

Also Anderson could make ah bad pass boy, waaayyyyy!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2013, 05:12:50 PM
In De Gea defense, poor fellah it look like he know he couldn't hold dat crazy back pass from Carrick, and also he didn't want to make a cacahole tackle to give way ah penalty and probably get ah red card, so I feel sorry for him dis time.

Football is something else yes, had Carrick just cleared dat ball, we woulda instead be talking bout de shot he spill and then re-collect later on...also if he own defender didn't get in his way, he woulda punch de ball away against Tottenham, no Dempsey equalizer:)Also Anderson could make ah bad pass boy, waaayyyyy!!!

Or Evra stay with Lennon instead of converging on the forward, DeGea, and Vidic.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on January 31, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
In De Gea defense, poor fellah it look like he know he couldn't hold dat crazy back pass from Carrick, and also he didn't want to make a cacahole tackle to give way ah penalty and probably get ah red card, so I feel sorry for him dis time.

Football is something else yes, had Carrick just cleared dat ball, we woulda instead be talking bout de shot he spill and then re-collect later on...also if he own defender didn't get in his way, he woulda punch de ball away against Tottenham, no Dempsey equalizer:)Also Anderson could make ah bad pass boy, waaayyyyy!!!

Or Evra stay with Lennon instead of converging on the forward, DeGea, and Vidic.
Unfortunately decisions like that often come about because you lack confidence in your goalie.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 31, 2013, 06:21:39 AM
In De Gea defense, poor fellah it look like he know he couldn't hold dat crazy back pass from Carrick, and also he didn't want to make a cacahole tackle to give way ah penalty and probably get ah red card, so I feel sorry for him dis time.

Football is something else yes, had Carrick just cleared dat ball, we woulda instead be talking bout de shot he spill and then re-collect later on...also if he own defender didn't get in his way, he woulda punch de ball away against Tottenham, no Dempsey equalizer:)Also Anderson could make ah bad pass boy, waaayyyyy!!!

Or Evra stay with Lennon instead of converging on the forward, DeGea, and Vidic.
Unfortunately decisions like that often come about because you lack confidence in your goalie.

What you saying there is more a repeated cliche than anything else.....when defenders lack confidence in their GK, they do not play the ball to him, they do everything in their power to clear the ball out so he doesn't have to be part of the play and have a chance to foul things up.  Especially when you playing on a team full of (error prone) veteran defenders but Carrick's back pass was pure garbage and it would have put ANY GK in a very bad spot.  If he have it in his mind that DeGea is a liability then he is a jackass for making that pass to him.......people always talk about "confidence in the GK" but hardly anybody talks about the pressure a GK is under when he has to be a saviour behind error-prone defenders who space out from time to time.  The only area that anybody can legitimately have the slightest concern for with DeGea is his handling of crosses. That has been a problem for him but guess what? That has been the bane for practically any GK coming into the English game, both that and the physicality of the league and guess what, too? They go hand in hand.  Warren Barton went off and went on and on about him "putting the ball back in play" against Tottenham but I guarantee you, Warren Barton never had to go up for a ball and try to go through 3 and 4 other players going for the same ball....DeGea doh weigh that much to move that crowd to begin with and any momentum he had going up to punch that ball got snuffed out upon impact.  All this other talk about him "putting the ball back in play" is more rehashed, mindless drbble.  I see King Jackass bringin' it up because that is what he hearing all the time on the tv....ALL GK's, in the performance of their duties, put the ball "back in play".  ALL of them.  It is inevitable.  Yesterday pepe reina made a brilliant diving save against arsenal and put the ball "back in play"....ball trickled wide for a corner.  If arsenal's forwards were more thoughtful on the initial shot, it woulda been an easy tap-in for whoever decided to follow up. That is just one example. A friend of mine that is a professional footballer (GK) was telling me the other day how his coaches always dedicate time in training to have other players fill in as GK, starting with going up for crosses.....most of them want to quit after 5-10 crosses.....He says it helps his defenders, especially, get a better understanding of his position, how they should communicate with each other and what their roles should be in certain situations. From some of the talk men does come on here and talk, I does wish I could run them through some serious drills.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on January 31, 2013, 08:35:27 AM


De Gea may be struggling... but the stats tell a different story

Player   Club   Saves   Shots to saves ratio
Gerhard Tremmel   Swansea City   43   81.1%
Petr Cech   Chelsea   68   76.4%
David De Gea   Manchester United   62   75.6%
Julio César   Queens Park Rangers   65   75.6%
Simon Mignolet   Sunderland   92   74.8%


Player   Club   Catches   Catch success rate
Brad Guzan   Aston Villa   62   100.0%
Petr Cech   Chelsea                27   100.0%
Adam Federici   Reading                20   100.0%
Michel Vorm   Swansea    19   100.0%
Joe Hart                 Man City                18   100.0%
Gerhard Tremmel   Swansea    12   100.0%
David De Gea   Manchester United   11   100.0%


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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on January 31, 2013, 02:18:23 PM


De Gea may be struggling... but the stats tell a different story

Player   Club   Saves   Shots to saves ratio
Gerhard Tremmel   Swansea City   43   81.1%
Petr Cech   Chelsea   68   76.4%
David De Gea   Manchester United   62   75.6%
Julio César   Queens Park Rangers   65   75.6%
Simon Mignolet   Sunderland   92   74.8%


Player   Club   Catches   Catch success rate
Brad Guzan   Aston Villa   62   100.0%
Petr Cech   Chelsea                27   100.0%
Adam Federici   Reading                20   100.0%
Michel Vorm   Swansea    19   100.0%
Joe Hart                 Man City                18   100.0%
Gerhard Tremmel   Swansea    12   100.0%
David De Gea   Manchester United   11   100.0%


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   Giggsy, dem stats really doh mean nutting nuh.....dize fuh dem "football intellectuals" as I like to call dem.....they do not tell enough of the story of the game to make a fair assessment of a GK's performance or abilities so later fuh dem ting.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on January 31, 2013, 03:46:46 PM
People really blaming De Gea for Carrick's woeful back pass?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 01, 2013, 09:31:18 AM
In De Gea defense, poor fellah it look like he know he couldn't hold dat crazy back pass from Carrick, and also he didn't want to make a cacahole tackle to give way ah penalty and probably get ah red card, so I feel sorry for him dis time.

Football is something else yes, had Carrick just cleared dat ball, we woulda instead be talking bout de shot he spill and then re-collect later on...also if he own defender didn't get in his way, he woulda punch de ball away against Tottenham, no Dempsey equalizer:)Also Anderson could make ah bad pass boy, waaayyyyy!!!

Or Evra stay with Lennon instead of converging on the forward, DeGea, and Vidic.
Unfortunately decisions like that often come about because you lack confidence in your goalie.

What you saying there is more a repeated cliche than anything else.....when defenders lack confidence in their GK, they do not play the ball to him, they do everything in their power to clear the ball out so he doesn't have to be part of the play and have a chance to foul things up.  Especially when you playing on a team full of (error prone) veteran defenders but Carrick's back pass was pure garbage and it would have put ANY GK in a very bad spot.  If he have it in his mind that DeGea is a liability then he is a jackass for making that pass to him.......people always talk about "confidence in the GK" but hardly anybody talks about the pressure a GK is under when he has to be a saviour behind error-prone defenders who space out from time to time.  The only area that anybody can legitimately have the slightest concern for with DeGea is his handling of crosses. That has been a problem for him but guess what? That has been the bane for practically any GK coming into the English game, both that and the physicality of the league and guess what, too? They go hand in hand.  Warren Barton went off and went on and on about him "putting the ball back in play" against Tottenham but I guarantee you, Warren Barton never had to go up for a ball and try to go through 3 and 4 other players going for the same ball....DeGea doh weigh that much to move that crowd to begin with and any momentum he had going up to punch that ball got snuffed out upon impact.  All this other talk about him "putting the ball back in play" is more rehashed, mindless drbble.  I see King Jackass bringin' it up because that is what he hearing all the time on the tv....ALL GK's, in the performance of their duties, put the ball "back in play".  ALL of them.  It is inevitable.  Yesterday pepe reina made a brilliant diving save against arsenal and put the ball "back in play"....ball trickled wide for a corner.  If arsenal's forwards were more thoughtful on the initial shot, it woulda been an easy tap-in for whoever decided to follow up. That is just one example. A friend of mine that is a professional footballer (GK) was telling me the other day how his coaches always dedicate time in training to have other players fill in as GK, starting with going up for crosses.....most of them want to quit after 5-10 crosses.....He says it helps his defenders, especially, get a better understanding of his position, how they should communicate with each other and what their roles should be in certain situations. From some of the talk men does come on here and talk, I does wish I could run them through some serious drills.   
Actually. I was referring to Evra's decision to leave his man (Lennon) unmarked and attempt to clear the ball. Didn't see Carrick's pass and can't comment on that. I would love to see Da Gea do well but I do get the feeling that his defenders don't have confidence in him in certain situations (rightly or wrongly).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
DeGea will get bench soon enough. It's one thing to have ability but when every game he having some mistake whether intentionally or not, it doh help. Remember Tim Howard?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 01, 2013, 02:46:11 PM
D.H.
DeGea will get bench soon enough. It's one thing to have ability but when every game he having some mistake whether intentionally or not, it doh help. Remember Tim Howard?

D.H.W, I also feel he will get ah lil bench, but doh forget even though Sir Alex get de rid of Howard, Howard end up being ah kinda ok lil keeper in de EPL, so Alex might remember dat too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 01, 2013, 05:45:23 PM
D.H.
DeGea will get bench soon enough. It's one thing to have ability but when every game he having some mistake whether intentionally or not, it doh help. Remember Tim Howard?

D.H.W, I also feel he will get ah lil bench, but doh forget even though Sir Alex get de rid of Howard, Howard end up being ah kinda ok lil keeper in de EPL, so Alex might remember dat too.

  fergie did shit with the whole Barthez-Howard situation, just as he is doing shit now with DeGea.  One ot the things you will notice that 99.9% of teams do, they put a GK in the posts and they stick with him.  He brought it DeGea to be VdS' long and short term replacement and that is what he needs to allow the boy to do.  DeGea, especially at his age, has a lot of growing to do in his position.  If fergie didn't want to allow for all that "growing" then he should have brought in someone with more experience just as he did when he did bring in Schmeichel, Barthez and Van der Saar at the advanced stages of their respective careers.  This bullshit of playing him, benching him, playing him, benching him.....he should have learned from the whole Barthez-Howard-Carroll debacle that that does not work well with GK's, but apparently he hasn't.  Barcelona has proven that you don't have to have the absolute world's number 1 goalkeeper in the world to have success as a (supposed, in manu's case) "great" team.  So many people were (and still) hating on Victor Valdes all throughout his career and calling for his replacement but Barca never saw it that way.  They stuck with him through thick and thin and it has paid dividends.  Yes, Valdes has made some horrible mistakes, (he has a bad problem with the ball at his feet) but his positive has far outweighed his negative and the same thing applied to Tim Howard, as it does to DeGea.  The boy has an excellent upside.  People just have to let him grow and develop into his role.....or send him away and get someone else that is more of a finished product, since that is what alex seems to want from him in an instant.     
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 01, 2013, 08:07:09 PM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/483838_10151293712322746_655647247_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 02, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
I guess dat Chelsea keeper need some more experience in the EPL to avoid putting balls back in play when he makes saves, he moving like if he now join the EPL man ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 02, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
I guess dat Chelsea keeper need some more experience in the EPL to avoid putting balls back in play when he makes saves, he moving like if he now join the EPL man ;)

  like I said, all GK's put the ball back in play, and Petr Cech is no exception....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 02, 2013, 12:15:17 PM
Fulham stadium lights cut off lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2013, 12:45:03 PM
I would prefer to tuh play Welbeck on the wing instead of Valencia. Valencia killin the knock!At this point I would say that Welbeck providing more from that position than Valencia.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 02, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
f**kin Rooney boy, goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 02, 2013, 01:18:47 PM
f**kin Rooney boy, goal

Ent!?!?!??!

Exquisite!!!
Pass it into the far corner...what the announcer say, "Class tells..."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 02, 2013, 01:33:49 PM
Well done, United. David DeGea!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 03, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
9 point lead men!

and Lady  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 03, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
9 point lead men!

and Lady  ;)

  It done lookin' like is time to concede.   :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 03, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
9 point lead men!

and Lady  ;)

  It done lookin' like is time to concede.   :cursing:

Ah know you-yuh tryin a lil reverse psychology on we. Come back in March if nothing has changed. ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 03, 2013, 01:17:39 PM
9 point lead men!

and Lady  ;)

  It done lookin' like is time to concede.   :cursing:

Ah know you-yuh tryin a lil reverse psychology on we. Come back in March if nothing has changed. ;)

Oh gawd, ah SO transparent?!  Ah was tryin' a ting.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 03, 2013, 01:25:06 PM
Bitch
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on February 03, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
Bitch

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on February 03, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
Bitch

 :rotfl:

X2 hahahaha :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 10, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
Come on United! Nani and Anderson on the bench-hopefully that means they will be starting Wednesday. David DeGea!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 10, 2013, 10:10:32 AM
 :praying:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 10, 2013, 10:13:20 AM
Gigggggsssssss!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 10, 2013, 10:14:41 AM
Giggsy! Team looking hungry and sharp boi!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 10, 2013, 10:47:54 AM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy


RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 10, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
the boys put in a shift today dread. Rel wuk

12 pts clear
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 10, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
Well played-very professional effort! Real next! David DeGea!
Rafa developing very nicely.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 10, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy


RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

The machine had Howard crawlin like a crab! DiSantos has him doing a similar move. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on February 10, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
My DVR didn't record today's game >:(

We might as well pop de dam Dom Perignon!!!

12 point lead with 12 games to go??

Can u say convincing cut arse?

Chicarito play today??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 10, 2013, 11:54:48 PM
Nope he was on the bench
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Daft Trini on February 11, 2013, 10:37:01 AM
Sir Ryan Giggs has scored in 21 out of the 21 Premier League seasons.... Knight him now, so we could see in the starting line up... "Sir Ryan Giggs."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 14, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
One of the many reasons I love De Gea- he is mentally tough and self determined. And all the attributes stated by his coach. It would be a miracle if he stays with us as long as Cech has stayed with Chelski.

Let there be light! David de Gea has overcome his 'dark moments', claims Manchester United coach
'The one thing he has got is a fantastic inner strength. Any criticism literally flies off that quiff he has' says Eric Steele


David de Gea overcame the “dark moments” that have blighted his time at Manchester United with a coming of age display against Real Madrid.

Danny Welbeck may have scored the vital away goal in United’s 1-1 draw in the Bernabeu, but it was the heroics of De Gea that earned Sir Alex Ferguson’s side the huge result.

De Gea made several crucial saves against Jose Mourinho’s side, his assured display arguably his best for United, having he copped flak for some costly high-profile blunders this season.

The Red Devils' goalkeeping coach, Eric Steele, who has been watching De Gea since the Spaniard was 16, paid tribute to the 22-year-old’s ability and strength of character following his exploits against Real.Steele was honest enough to admit De Gea has struggled at times during his 19-month spell at United, but said the young keeper retained the faith of Ferguson, his players and the coaching staff.

David might have dark moments but I think he keeps them away from the training ground and away from when he is preparing for games,” said Steele.
If he is hurt he doesn’t show it. We teach him that the calmest man of the field has to be the goalkeeper.
 “The one thing he has got is a fantastic inner strength. Any criticism literally flies off that quiff he has – in Spanish we call it cresta cabeza.

“He knew the change was going to be difficult. You bring a boy into the Premier League at 20 it’s not easy.

“But he’s 22 and has played in about 170 first-team games now [for United and Atletico Madrid].

“He’s won the Europa League, he’s played in big big games. He’s not inexperienced but what he isn’t
experienced at his dealing with the varied performances you need in the Premier League.

“Trust me, if you worked with him day by day, then you’d see he’s very mature for his age and will only get better.

“He’s learning in the toughest environment in the world in the Premier League plus the Champions League.”

Steele, who brought De Gea to Ferguson’s attention, said the United boss was determined not make the same mistake he did which saw him miss out on Petr Cech back in 2004.

Cech was on United’s radar but Chelsea got there first, signing the then 21-year-old, a mistake Steele said Ferguson did not want to make again, which is why they moved quickly for De Gea.
Testing times: De Gea has made some high profile mistakes in the Premier League

“To be fair to the manager, he missed out on Cech when he was younger and didn’t want to do this again,” said Steele. “There weren’t too many [keepers around]. Joe Hart was the other one.

“The manager just said ‘if this guy is as good as we think he is and we’ve scouted him strongly then we don’t want to miss out on him, like we did with Cech’.”

Following Edwin van der Sar was always going to be tough for De Gea, whose moments of brilliance have been interspersed with the odd clanger and difficulties in dealing with crosses.

But Steele said De Gea’s rare shot-stopping ability and huge long-term potential meant it was worth persevering with him, despite the occasional blip he may suffer.

“If you play for United, you’re young, following a legend and been brought in from another country, it’s difficult,” said Steele.

“But as long as he knows the faith that’s going to be shown in him by myself, the manager, the coaching staff and the rest of the players, then that’s all he needs.

“There are some things he has to learn but he has the backing of people at the football club and so long as he has that he will continue to develop and become the big goalkeeper for the biggest club.”

Steele admitted De Gea has struggled to adapt to the physicality of the Premier League and the different qualities required to La Liga, where there are not as many crosses for keepers to deal with.

 “We knew he had to go to places like Stoke, Birmingham and Wolves,” said Steele. “It’s the variation and that’s what he’s having to learn.

“Each week in the Premier League is a different challenge. So of course he’s had to learn. He’s still growing physically and he works hard on that.”

Steele picked out De Gea’s fifth-minute save from Fabio Coentrao, in which the United keeper got a fingertip to the ball, diverting it on to a post and away to safety, as the pick of the bunch.

“That’s the one,” said Steele. “If we go 1-0 down to Real Madrid after five minutes at the Bernabeu, that makes things a lot harder.

“He saw it very late, one of the boys might have been offside in front of him, but he got his finger to it.
“Some may have had the anticipation, he had the speed of the first step movement and the great long reach he has and got enough on it.

“That is how thin the dividing line is with goalkeepers. That’s why you can be a hero one minute and zero the next.”

De Gea, whose English is improving with twice-weekly lessons, said: “I was a bit unsighted and saw it arrive late, but I was lucky enough to get there and it went onto the post, so I was happy with that save.

“Any save is important to help the team get a draw like that in such a complicated match and I’m happy with my performance.”

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 14, 2013, 06:28:56 PM
To be fair its only one good game, lets see if he can keep the consistency. The second leg awaits , i pray he does well again
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on February 23, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
Raphael sharp like a Samuri's sword today boy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
Persie injured. I feel is cramp, hoping
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2013, 10:22:40 AM
Nice save DeGea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2013, 10:37:53 AM
Forking Giggs boy. 2 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on February 23, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
Persie injured. I feel is cramp, hoping

Not a machine today?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 23, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
Machine fall into a camera man
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 23, 2013, 02:22:38 PM
Es Rafael que golaso
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 24, 2013, 03:10:36 AM
RVP has a bruised hip.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on February 24, 2013, 11:01:55 AM
Did things that Bale could only dream of doing or could dream of being! 


http://youtu.be/kztdmIHvErQ


http://youtu.be/nEAouJwTYlU

http://youtu.be/5ofa78rqIuQ-Young Ryan Wilson (Giggs)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Observer on February 24, 2013, 11:11:17 AM
Saw this sign walking in Manchester  ;D

(http://www.welovecushions.co.uk/images/prod/london_transport_mind_the_gap.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 25, 2013, 06:19:14 AM
Beckham psg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJImEfYJRg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Norwich today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
Kagawa! Valencia actually realised he has a left foot he should try using.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2013, 10:39:14 AM
Nice dummy shot! Nice and easy :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2013, 10:40:19 AM
Kagawa smooth as silk!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Kagawa with the hattrick
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2013, 10:48:32 AM
Kagawa-missing midfield scorer we have been missing! Finally-lets get the beaver!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
Rooney! What a strike 4 nil
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 02, 2013, 10:50:28 AM
Goal brudder!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2013, 08:50:59 AM
We Ready!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on March 05, 2013, 10:53:40 AM
Next goal win.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/486710_10151358199397746_119718073_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 05, 2013, 12:08:22 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 05, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
C'MON ManUnited!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 05, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Buh-BYE!!  ;D  :salute:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 05, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
Man scared scarce boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 05, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
We in the Champions league thread doh talk shit eh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 06, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Ah kool off now....Set my focus back on the BPL and the FA Cup....Read today UEFA is investigating Fergie. Fergie violated the rules by not talking to the media and so he is in Hot water. They are also looking into the red card, not like it would do anything for us.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on March 07, 2013, 06:28:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/HA5pxI6RdNo
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: de_redman on March 07, 2013, 07:28:33 AM
Yorkie good at rattling off the  :bs:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: truetrini on March 07, 2013, 07:40:49 AM
togedder.   boat... contrack.....with each odder.....lol..some ah dem....even with all the British accent,,, he cyar shed he roots  hahahahahahaha...being in the car wid him...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on March 07, 2013, 09:51:10 AM
togedder.   boat... contrack.....with each odder.....lol..some ah dem....even with all the British accent,,, he cyar shed he roots  hahahahahahaha...being in the car wid him...
hahahaha Yorke came a long way, at least we can understand him despite his pronunciations with certain words. It had an interview with Scotland after a game a while back, I didnn't understand one word that man said so I knew all those English fans were lost lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 07, 2013, 09:56:45 AM
I could never even understand what all the pressure was for him to try so hard and so soon as he did to sound so British....I guess he was young still....he (still) sounds terrible! lmao!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 07, 2013, 03:44:59 PM
25 million for Rooney?

The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4828461/Wayne-Rooney-transfer-Man-Utd-ace-can-leave-for-25m.html)

dnaindia (http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_wayne-rooney-for-sale-at-20-million-pounds-if-he-can-find-club_1808540)

Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-transfers-wayne-rooneys-1747478)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 07, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
After dat grandstand he pull, playing careless football, and continuously being out of shape, is only a matter of time before Fergie send him packing. Rooney is now considered expendable.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 07, 2013, 06:30:19 PM
Ronaldo hits back at Fergie jibe
March 7, 2013
By Dermot Corrigan, Spain Correspondent
Former Brazil striker Ronaldo said Real Madrid's 2-1 Champions League win over Manchester United on Tuesday served to shut Alex Ferguson's mouth, after the United boss called him 'fat' in the build-up to the game.

During Monday's pre-game press conference Ferguson was asked to compare the former Madrid attacker Ronaldo [Luis Nazario de Lima] with his namesake the current Los Blancos star [Cristiano] Ronaldo. The Scot replied that Cristiano was a better all-round player than the "fat, old" Ronaldo, who had scored a hat-trick on Madrid's last visit to Old Trafford in 2003.

The Portuguese attacker then did not match that performance during this year's game, looking affected by the emotion of his return to his former club, but still scoring Madrid's winner in a game that hinged on the controversial sending off of United winger Nani early in the second half with home side 1-0 ahead.

The Brazilian Ronaldo, 36, retired as a player in 2011 after a long series of knee injuries and struggles with his weight, apparently due to a related thyroid problem. He reportedly lost 37 pounds while taking part in a reality show on Brazilian TV last year, and is currently working as an ambassador for the 2014 World Cup, which is being held in his home country.

Speaking at a publicity event at currently half-built World Cup venue Arena Pernambuco, Ronaldo said that the remarks from Ferguson, 71, had been disrespectful and unexpected from someone with so much experience in the game.

"Real Madrid shut his mouth for me," Ronaldo said, in comments reported in AS. "It was a lack of respect. A professional of his age, an English Sir, should not be so disrespectful. It was not classy."

Ronaldo said he did not want to get into any further debate on the subject, but he would be keeping an eye out for United's results from now on.

"I have no words for this gentleman, except that I hope the team he manages always loses," he added.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 07, 2013, 06:45:14 PM
Add Ronaldo to the Hater list. Step in line Fat kid
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 07, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
He just mad Fergie still winning trophies and his fat ass ain't lol Look how men will take the bait...   ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 07, 2013, 07:16:35 PM
Would love tuh see the video of him saying it and how it was said. Could have used different words tuh differentiate, kind of mean. But I would crack up hear him saying it in his Scottish accent.
Poor Ronaldo feelings hurt cause people using the word fat tuh describe him, and not focusing on his footballing abilites.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
No easy solutions for Manchester United over Wayne Rooney dilemma

The future of Wayne Rooney looks set to remain in limbo for the foreseeable future, with Paris Saint-Germain unlikely to decide whether to make a move for him until closer to the end of the season.

Manchester United are said to be ready to consider offers for their once talismanic striker, who was left out of the starting XI for Tuesday's Champions League defeat by Real Madrid, but there will be a keen desire in the club's hierarchy to avoid talking down the player's value.

When Rooney performed a dramatic volte-face in October 2010 and signed a new five-year contract on £250,000 a week days after threatening to leave amid keen interest from Manchester City it is understood that the move was personally sanctioned by the Glazers following a conference call with Sir Alex Ferguson and the chief executive, David Gill.

It was a key moment in the owners' tenure – pushed by Ferguson, they agreed to break the club's wage structure as a demonstration that the onerous financial obligations placed on Manchester United by their debt-funded takeover would not prevent them from matching the wages on offer from their well-funded local rivals.

They would have thought then that they were not only securing a vital player, after reassuring him with promises about their ambitions, and getting one over on their "noisy neighbours" but also maintaining his future value.

It is one of several ironies of the situation that in delivering on their promise to Rooney to sign better players, the issue the player claimed was at the heart of his dissatisfaction, it is the 27-year-old who has ended up being sidelined. But if Rooney is seen as damaged goods, then it will affect the fee that he can command, particularly in the absence of much competition for his services.

The club would look to recoup at least the £25.6m they spent on signing him from Everton, but the number of clubs willing to buy him has contracted with the introduction of Uefa's financial fair play rules and the emergence of other targets.

Both Manchester City and Chelsea, who were keen on Rooney in 2010, have less interest now and it is understood the former have ruled out a bid. An approach from PSG has been mooted but their list of transfer targets for next season remains in a state of flux.

Leonardo, the club's general manager, could leave at the end of the season and the future of the coach, Carlo Ancelotti, who masterminded their passage to the Champions League quarter-finals on Wednesday, also remains unclear. Therefore it is unlikely that any decision will be taken on whether to attempt to sign Rooney until closer to the end of the season.

Neither Real Madrid, Barcelona nor Bayern Munich are expected to take an interest – leaving the list of potential buyers a short one. The introduction of Uefa's FFP rules are also a factor for any club hoping to lure Rooney, especially if he hopes to maintain his salary. Whereas transfer fees can be amortised over the length of a player's contract, their wages go straight on to the bottom line.

Sir Alex Ferguson, who preferred Danny Welbeck and Nani to Rooney on Tuesday, has repeatedly questioned Rooney's fitness over the past year. He has often been forced to play out of position following the arrival of Robin van Persie and in the first leg in Madrid he was asked to occupy an unfamiliar defensive role.

The Manchester United manager will face the media on Friday for the first time since he failed to carry out his post-match media duties in the wake of Real's 2-1 victory at Old Trafford, a match that turned on Nani's controversial sending-off.

The United vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, who has masterminded the club's commercial growth, will take over Gill's responsibilities as chief executive in the summer. He told the Guardian last year that United's average net transfer outlay would be £25m, plus any additional money brought in from player sales.

Whether Rooney stays or goes will be Ferguson's decision but financial considerations will surely play a part. If the forward is deemed to be on the fringe of the manager's plans, there would be a reticence to pay £250,000 a week to a squad player. Although Manchester United are in little danger of failing to comply with Uefa's FFP rules, the club's board will be aware that paying Rooney over the final two years of his contract would cost the club more than £13m a year.

As they ponder Rooney's future, as well as that of Ferguson, United's board were also warned on Thursday that Jim O'Neill, the Goldman Sachs banker who unsuccessfully sought to put together a Red Knights consortium to lead a supporter-backed takeover in 2010, still harboured ambitions of owning the club.

"I haven't lost my desire to get involved in executing a philanthropic-based ownership of Manchester United," he told the Manchester Evening News, adding that his imminent retirement from the investment bank would give him the opportunity to revive the plans should the opportunity arise.

"With what I am doing, should the opportunity come along, I would certainly have the time to look at it and I wouldn't have the restrictions I had previously."

The mooted takeover was faced down by the Glazers, despite loud opposition from the majority of the club's fans to their debt-funded ownership model, calculated to have cost £1bn in fees and interest by 2016.

However, the club's value has since soared to around £2bn in the wake of its partial flotation on the New York Stock Exchange, as its aggressive commercial strategy, continued success on the field and the introduction of FFP have worked in its favour.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/mar/07/wayne-rooney-manchester-united-dilemma
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 07, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
The day Rooney signed that contract is the day Fergie had him by the balls after he grandstand move. He may have won that fight but Fergie will win the war.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on March 07, 2013, 08:11:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXq3L3fBPo  ferguson video comments

http://on.aol.com/video/ronaldo-criticises-sir-alex-ferguson-during-fifa-inspection-517692801?icid=bottom_related_thumb_3  Ronaldo rebuttal video comments
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 07, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
Ronaldo only upset because he end up being fat, and Fergie call him what he is at this time. I think he said in jest but in the same breathe complimented him by saying he was in form at the time he beat United. Fat now, in form and in shape then.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 08, 2013, 06:21:06 AM
SIR ALEX : "The Wayne Rooney issue first?" he asked at the start of his press conference. "Or do you want to talk sense?

"The issue you're all going on about in the papers is absolute rubbish. I've banned two papers from the press conference and they won't get back in here until they apologise. There is absolutely no issue between Wayne Rooney and I. To suggest we don't talk to each other on the training ground is absolute nonsense.

"He understood the reasons for not playing him and that was completely tactical. And I think I was right. We don't always get it right but I think we did get it right. Danny Welbeck is the best player we have in terms of operating in a double role. We had to choke Xabi Alonso's ability to control the game, which Danny did, and that took away Alonso's control of the game and his ability to go further forward and be an attacking player. We don't always get it right but we definitely did on Tuesday.

"Wayne will be here next year," "You have my word on that. I have no issues at all with the player and he'll be involved on Sunday."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on March 08, 2013, 07:19:17 AM
"Wayne will be here next year," "You have my word on that. I have no issues at all with the player and he'll be involved on Sunday."

aah boy, the dreaded vote of confidence

This is usually the death knell for any player and/or manager right here.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 08, 2013, 07:35:05 AM
And then Fergie went and hide like a child after the game  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
Gawd boi, Gus calling we match agaaainn!  :banginghead: We have not won a match since he has been callin we games. Ah wish he would forkin leaves us alone! Shite, Liverpool and Spurs playing go and torture their viewers' ear drums nah!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 10:37:01 AM
Hello calling Elan, are you there? Hernandez says hi!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 10:37:47 AM
Hello calling Elan, are you there?

"Hernandez is not a baller "
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 10:38:41 AM
a man score a goal like dat and this  :applause: :applause: is all you can do about it.  That was a wicked goal!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
Braps in the onion bag
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 10:42:33 AM
Goal sah! Earn yuh pay!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 10:50:26 AM
Drank some haterade this morning and am in good hating form.

Come on Chelsea!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 11:16:36 AM
I eh understand dat move by howard webb. Did he blow the whistle?....or did he just allow play to go on from midfield, allow manu to knock the ball all the way into Chelsea 18, come back and give Azpiliqueta a yellow......and then give manu the free-kick all the way back at midfield?! WTF is THAT?!?!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 11:21:23 AM
Drank some haterade this morning and am in good hating form.

Come on Chelsea!

Pssh-careful dey-Liverpool losing 2-1.  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 10, 2013, 11:22:34 AM
let it happen!c maybe next year d russain goh leave managin to d managers :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
let it happen!c maybe next year d russain goh leave managin to d managers :frustrated:

Who you want fuh a manager? Would you take AVB today if you coul? Forget about last year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
a man score a goal like dat and this  :applause: :applause: is all you can do about it.  That was a wicked goal!

......as well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 10, 2013, 11:51:52 AM
let it happen!c maybe next year d russain goh leave managin to d managers :frustrated:

Who you want fuh a manager? Would you take AVB today if you coul? Forget about last year.

to dis day I still doh know why dey fire Ancellotti ...yeah goh carry dat tabanca to mih grave...........RDM was doing ah good job even while tryin to change chelsea style and even wit CL elimination should have been allowed to continue...............d russain need to chill or chelsea will not have a good and dedicated manager willing to come at any price............sad really, the way it goin' down............and d "real" fan fraid to let RA know what's what..........damn shame considering all d mout dey have for torres and benitez
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 11:53:36 AM
Rooney need to come off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 11:55:29 AM
let it happen!c maybe next year d russain goh leave managin to d managers :frustrated:

Who you want fuh a manager? Would you take AVB today if you coul? Forget about last year.

to dis day I still doh know why dey fire Ancellotti ...yeah goh carry dat tabanca to mih grave...........RDM was doing ah good job even while tryin to change chelsea style even wit CL elimination should have been allowed to continue...............d russain need to chill or chelsea will not have a good and dedicated manager willing to come at any price............sad really the it goin' down............and d "real"c fan fraid to let RA know what's what..........damn shame considering all d mout dey have for torres and benitez

   ah tink ah understand why yuh put "real" in quotation marks....


Rooney need to come off

 One of the points Ian Wright has been (correctly) making from the start!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 10, 2013, 11:58:15 AM
ramirez boy what a player
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 11:59:09 AM
Valencia and Rooney killin the team!
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:01:10 PM
a man score a goal like dat and this  :applause: :applause: is all you can do about it.  That was a wicked goal!

......as well.

  ....RAMIRES now!!  ;D
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
ramirez boy what a player

  See how he make jonny evans nearly splshit he pants?!  :D
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Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 12:20:13 PM
Dagea boy. Save!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
Breath taking pace. Lord it over. Going for a walk lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:24:57 PM
Dagea boy. Save!

  Yuh bitch!  Yuh love him now eh?!  :D
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Post by: Bitter on March 10, 2013, 12:25:31 PM
#RafaOut!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 12:26:30 PM
Dagea boy. Save!

  Yuh bitch!  Yuh love him now eh?!  :D

Hehe, he earn my respect.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 12:28:33 PM
For the second time this week game change when Nani went off. We lost our creative outlet and speed on the wing. Forkin Valencia so forkin predicatable with he one legged self. Yuh crowd him and he dos cough up the ball. He play a pack of shite, Rooney faded out of the match. So we might as well have been playing 9 against 11. Thank goodness for DeGea. Well done Chelski tuh make it a game.

Ah forget-Cleverly will be seeing some bench too moving forward-time for Ando tuh take he sweat. We also need more wingers-Zaha is a start-Valencia is not worthy of that #7 jersey.
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Post by: lefty on March 10, 2013, 12:43:56 PM
ramirez boy what a player

  See how he make jonny evans nearly splshit he pants?!  :D

ent!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 10, 2013, 12:44:08 PM
let it happen!c maybe next year d russain goh leave managin to d managers :frustrated:

Who you want fuh a manager? Would you take AVB today if you coul? Forget about last year.

to dis day I still doh know why dey fire Ancellotti ...yeah goh carry dat tabanca to mih grave...........RDM was doing ah good job even while tryin to change chelsea style and even wit CL elimination should have been allowed to continue...............d russain need to chill or chelsea will not have a good and dedicated manager willing to come at any price............sad really, the way it goin' down............and d "real" fan fraid to let RA know what's what..........damn shame considering all d mout dey have for torres and benitez

Dey should jus give Benitez the position jus for spite.
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Post by: Peong on March 10, 2013, 12:51:03 PM
What a save boy that left me gapin.
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Post by: Mango Chow! on March 10, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
What a save boy that left me gapin.

  In real time it was hard to tell that it was HIM that made the save as opposed to Mata missing the goal....I was GOOD cussin' Mata until  I hear Johnson and Wright bawlin' what a good save it was....I was in SHOCK....I think that ball just barely scrrrape orff the very tip of his pegs under he big toe!! lmao!  He will be an amazing GK. 
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Post by: kaliman2006 on March 10, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
What a save boy that left me gapin.

  In real time it was hard to tell that it was HIM that made the save as opposed to Mata missing the goal....I was GOOD cussin' Mata until  I hear Johnson and Wright bawlin' what a good save it was....I was in SHOCK....I think that ball just barely scrrrape orff the very tip of his pegs under he big toe!! lmao!  He will be an amazing GK. 

Lol, I though Mata had missed also and was about to cuss him rell loud at the top of my lungs. Like you, it's only when Johnson and Wright was going on about the save that I realize that De Gea had saved it.

Utd has De Gea to thank if they beat Chelsea in the replay, because there was no way Utd was coming back if Mata had scored, unless Webb had pulled another six minutes of stoppage time out of his backside.
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Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2013, 01:24:27 PM
15pts clear
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
15pts clear

 No one cares.  Allyuh out de CL!!  :applause: PRICELESS!!  ;D (thanks, christiana!)
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Post by: triniairman on March 16, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
15pts clear

 No one cares.  Allyuh out de CL!!  :applause: PRICELESS!!  ;D (thanks, christiana!)
Sound like some sour grapes there lol Just pray Arsenal dont take over Chelski and put Chelski ass in Europa Thursdays
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 16, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
15pts clear

 No one cares.  Allyuh out de CL!!  :applause: PRICELESS!!  ;D (thanks, christiana!)
Sound like some sour grapes there lol Just pray Arsenal dont take over Chelski and put Chelski ass in Europa Thursdays

  "sour grapes"?!?!  Come on, man, allyuh know my hate run deeper than that.  24/7!!! . Arsenal eh takin' over nutting, watch!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 28, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
As I was posting on this year's South American U-17 championship, I remembered posting on Larrauri on this thread. In fact, I lost track of time and was wondering why he wasn't listed on the U-17 squad ... simple answer: he played in the 2011 edition. Just turned 19 2 days ago ...

Since a lot of recent discussion (amwood, coache, Observer, elan et al) has turned to player development ... Here's what has happened to Larrauri since he left for Bayern at 13:

* left Bayern under circumstances that are unclear
* tried his luck at Spurs (sounds familiar)
* tried his luck at Leicester where he had a spell with the 18s
* is now with Pachuca in the Mexican league on loan ... with whom he debuted (http://depor.pe/futbol-peruano/902930/noticia-juvenil-pierre-larrauri-debuto-primer-equipo-pachuca) 8 weeks ago. Contracted for 3 years with Leicester.

Success or failure?

Here's how he used to geh orn at 13 (http://www.youtube.com/v/XliEY8t_T_Y)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on March 28, 2013, 11:05:34 PM
^^^He was skillful as a 13yr old, he real rip up those kids lol. It's tough for me to say failure since he's still only 19 and he played for his national U17 team 2 years ago, maybe he didn't live up to expectations in terms of playing for a top club but at least he's on contract and is on loan in Mexico developing. Let's see how he does in the next 2-3 years I say.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on March 30, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
1-nil United. Gap turning into a moat!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 30, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
3 points
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Post by: Mango Chow! on April 01, 2013, 07:40:48 AM
Ba-bye shit-snakes! so much fuh de treble double.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 01, 2013, 07:46:46 AM
We play horrible. Ba goal was bess.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 01, 2013, 08:00:37 AM
We play horrible. Ba goal was bess.

Yuh eh lie dey at all!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 01, 2013, 02:27:59 PM
If is one time I will back the noisy neighbors is when they play Chelski!!
I backing Arsenal for 4th too ;D
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Post by: Peong on April 01, 2013, 02:38:59 PM
What a goal!  Man look like Batistuta dey.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 01, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
We play horrible. Ba goal was bess.

The shyte spread and long ball eh work today, Chelsea had it under wrap.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 08, 2013, 02:53:55 PM
Lost the battle, but still on course to win the war!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2013, 08:10:12 AM
Tottenham giving we that trophy early. 3-1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 21, 2013, 08:57:04 AM
WELL DONE SPURS!!! HAUL YUH ASS BACK TO THE SHITIHAD CITEH!!!!! COME ON UNITED!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 21, 2013, 04:42:56 PM
AVB would have been one of the managers I would love to have take over from Fergie. He is young, committed, forward thinking and could be our manager for a long time. Glad tuh see he is doing well at Spurs.
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Post by: giggsy11 on April 21, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
My keeper-never in doubt!

21/04/2013 09:07, Report by A Bostock, A Marshall
ManUnited.com

De Gea definitely no.1 

David De Gea is set to make his 18th consecutive start for United on Monday with his boss declaring him the club's undisputed first-choice goalkeeper.

The Spaniard is three games away from his longest unbroken run between the posts, having been top of the Reds' teamsheet for every competitive fixture since mid-January's FA Cup replay win over West Ham, when Anders Lindegaard returned to the line-up for one night only. And De Gea hasn't missed a league game since 1 December when his Danish colleague played in the dramatic 4-3 victory at Reading.

When asked if De Gea is now confirmed as his first-choice goalkeeper, Sir Alex replied: "Yeah, definitely. And I thank Steeley (Eric Steele) for that as he’s the one who works with David every day. I’ve had a couple of chats with him but nothing serious."Steeley kept reminding David he would be top. The improvement is the physical part as he’s put on nearly a stone now in terms of muscle. He’s much stronger and dealing with the physical part [of the game] much, much better.

"As I said a few weeks ago, he’s developed into a really top keeper. He’s quick, he's got good composure and his use of the ball is good. He’s got no problems now."

De Gea has proved his strength, not to mention his powers of recovery, in at least two recent away games. At Sunderland, for example, he bravely played on after accidentally clashing heads with his own captain Nemanja Vidic. Against West Ham, the keeper was controversially clattered by Andy Carroll in what Sir Alex referred to as a football "war zone."

"He took a real buffeting at West Ham and it didn’t affect him at all," said Sir Alex. "He was
composed in everything he did and had no chances [of saving] the goals. Actually, he was very unlucky with the second goal – Kevin Nolan did a fantastic job of shielding the defender out of the road and if you see the video from behind the net, David had no chance."

Sir Alex says De Gea was fully briefed about the rigours of English football prior to his arrival - and the warning immediately rang true when he made his league debut in August of last year.

"If you remember he played his first game away from home at West Brom and got a battering," recalled Sir Alex. "At the time I said referees will think he’s a young Spanish goalkeeper and he’s not tough and he didn’t get any protection at all.

"When we agreed to sign David, I had him at my house with Steeley and I got Eric in to explain how we played and what the game was like in England. He must’ve expected it to be different in that respect but I’m sure he was still surprised.

"Having to deal with it as a young goalkeeper was different. In the early days, it was a concern whether he was going to mature enough to handle that kind of play. But with the maturity we're seeing in him now, it doesn't bother him in the same way. He’s handling it. We don’t have any concerns about that.

"I don’t think you can prepare for it in training. Steeley does a lot of crossing with the three keepers but you can’t prepare for the real thing. We don’t want players crashing into one another in training!"
Sir Alex revealed he encouraged De Gea by pointing to how arguably United's greatest ever goalkeeper, Peter Schmeichel, had to adapt when he first came to England from his native Denmark.

"Yes, I spoke to David about Schmeichel and pointed out to him that in his first game at Wimbledon away from home he was screaming for protection from the referee.

"That mob [Wimbledon's players] were focusing right on him and battering into big Pete and he was screaming like a dying pig but he handled it.

"It was something different for him but Peter was more mature in fairness – he was 27 and a big strong lad. He soon got used to what it’s like in England and never had any bother after that."


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Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2013, 06:01:54 PM
Whatever. Lindegard will always be my boy. But Da Gea really earn his stripes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
Allyuh whey meh Manu scarf, a comprehensive EPL title...Give thanks!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
Ammm, 1-0 Manu, after 1 minute 24 seconds!!!

ESPN2.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 01:03:15 PM
:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 01:10:38 PM
Some serious backs and forwards going on here!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 01:13:21 PM
Oh gord the machine boy. Look at that goal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
Ah cah help it, Golazo from VP!!!! He getting 4 today!!

Comprehensive EPL title!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 01:14:36 PM
RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy


RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.

RVP is a machine boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 01:33:32 PM
Hatrick Van Persie.

The Machine running smooth
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
D.H is just me and you jed...32 minute hattrick!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
RVP  :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 02:33:41 PM
DaGea settle in nicely. By next season he ready
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: boss on April 22, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Congrats and well done.  :beermug: The table never lies
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 02:48:03 PM
20 titles
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 02:52:16 PM
Van Persie made the choice. First EPL title
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 22, 2013, 02:54:04 PM
Ahhhh yes :)

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Post by: triniairman on April 22, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
Big 20 Champions once again!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 22, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/15196_10151331085176455_525085310_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on April 22, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Congratulations to all Reds everywhere.

Glory Glory Man United.

MUFC One Love
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on April 22, 2013, 03:38:18 PM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!


i hope a corbeaux pee on him
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 22, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!


i hope a corbeaux pee on him

   :rotfl: If yuh want to know de truth, I want corbeaux to pee on all ah dem...but dey done win de title arready and my side in a :nailbiting: fight for the much coveted 3rd place CL, spot (4th place is really NOT what any side want) so I hadda keep meh bad mind in check fuh a lil bit.  :praying:
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Post by: MEP on April 22, 2013, 04:05:46 PM
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 22, 2013, 04:57:25 PM
Bump  ;D


Singing..WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS.. WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!
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Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 22, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/69065_10151895645194832_1437527478_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Well done United! One love! :cheers: :wavetowel: :applause: :salute:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 07:49:26 PM
Congratulations to all Reds everywhere.

Glory Glory Man United.

MUFC One Love


Same to you! :beermug:
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Post by: Deeks on April 22, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 08:23:14 PM
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/ruud1000/69065_10151895645194832_1437527478_n.jpg)

Congrats Small Mag!
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Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2013, 08:24:28 PM
One Member is missing. This one is for Draft. :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 08:50:05 PM
Kagawa is one smooth player boy, he Giggsy, Van Persie have some sweet touches to behold. He know how tuh shake men with his body. I look forward tuh watching him shine next season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 22, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
One Member is missing. This one is for Draft. :beermug:


 :beermug:
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Post by: Reaper2004 on April 23, 2013, 05:06:12 AM
 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Pur_Trini on April 23, 2013, 07:56:47 AM
Match report, American style!!

'RSVP unleashed a real sweet no-bounce kick'

Man Unity became the EPL Soccer World Champions again last night, thanks to RSVP playing real good soccer.  Aston Vanilla did not know how to stop the Scandinavian, and now sit real close above the EPL disaster sector.

The tie started with both franchises trying to kick the soccer ball towards the other franchise’s soccer goal but Unity wasted no time in kicking the first goalshot.  After Raphael kicked a high altitude cross pass in to the Vanilla danger box zone, the soccer ball got kicked to RSVP who kicked it in to the soccergoal interior real hard.  The Unity fans were real happy and started singing all their soccer chants!

Any hopes that Vanilla had of getting an equalization goalshot faded when the Unity did some more nice soccer a few minutes later.  Dwayne Rooney played the wedge pass to RSVP, who unleashed a real sweet no-bounce kick into the soccer goal from the edge of the danger box zone.  The Unity fans were in soccer heaven- this was almost as good as the Clint Dempsey goalshot for the Whitespurs on Sunday.

Coach Lambert looked real sad as his franchise were getting out-soccered all over the soccer court.  Their soccer nightmare got even more bad when RSVP kicked in another goalshot for his triple before the first semi phase completion whistle.

The half time interval passed by with no entertainment show, and nobody could kick any goalshots at all in the second semi phase.

Whereas fans of Aston Vanilla will be real mad at this EPL result, Man Unity soccer fans will not be.  This was an awesome night for this soccer franchise that has kicked the soccer ball in a real nice style all season.  At times, they have been like a soccer masterpiece, painted by a real good artistic artist.  RSVP has formed part of that deadly triangle of four strikers that has made the Unity real scary for other franchises and that is what has made the difference.

http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/rsvp-unleashed-a-real-sweet-no-bounce-kick
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Post by: Mr Fix-it on April 23, 2013, 09:51:16 AM
One Member is missing. This one is for Draft. :beermug:


 :beermug:
:beermug:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 23, 2013, 11:14:15 AM
When I was coaching high school boys football here in the midwest 6 years ago, if you used to hear them youth imitating them English commentators during practice and games, they had it cold :)

And these were kids who ALSO played basketball, baseball, Lacrosse, skateboarded, etc.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 23, 2013, 11:42:58 AM
... been thinking about gehhin into lacrosse ... That and Quidditch growing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on April 23, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
... been thinking about gehhin into lacrosse ... That and Quidditch growing.

asylum leave me alone with that dotish Quidditch thing:)

I get into ah little argument with one of meh ripping forwards when he tell me he rather play Lacrosse, when he realize ah didn't like it, he would always bring it up just to get to me :)

anyway put ah smiley face anytime yuh talk bout Quidditch please :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: jr sams on April 24, 2013, 09:52:47 PM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!

Nah, I heard that they doing the trophy presentation after the last home game of the season,against Swansea on May 12th
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 25, 2013, 08:08:11 AM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!

Nah, I heard that they doing the trophy presentation after the last home game of the season,against Swansea on May 12th

  don't arsenal still have to form an honor guard for manu as they walk onto the field though? That is what I am talking about.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on April 25, 2013, 08:19:34 AM
Goal of the season Right there, serious technique to even touch that

...didn't see the game at all, but that goal was freakin' ridiculous!! SO many things had to be perfect or close to perfect for him to score that..congrats to allyuh.  this was probably the easiest title allyuh ever win, so enjoy it.  It good for arsenal, they now havta form honour guard fuh allyuh and watch rvp walk tru it next week. :beermug: allyuh damned bishes!

Nah, I heard that they doing the trophy presentation after the last home game of the season,against Swansea on May 12th

  don't arsenal still have to form an honor guard for manu as they walk onto the field though? That is what I am talking about.  :beermug:

yea they should If they have any class about them

It will be brilliant to see RVP walk through it.. look in the background and you will see Wenger shed a few tears
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2013, 08:32:07 PM
David DeGea!  :applause: :notworthy:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 28, 2013, 08:34:26 PM
David DeGea!  :applause: :notworthy:

Lol yeh he had a good day. He seems to be playing alot better. By next season he should be ready.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 28, 2013, 09:06:01 PM
David DeGea!  :applause: :notworthy:

Lol yeh he had a good day. He seems to be playing alot better. By next season he should be ready.

Walcott goal   ???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 29, 2013, 05:25:02 AM
David DeGea!  :applause: :notworthy:

Lol yeh he had a good day. He seems to be playing alot better. By next season he should be ready.

lol! He made PFA team of the year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on April 29, 2013, 05:26:44 AM
David DeGea!  :applause: :notworthy:

Lol yeh he had a good day. He seems to be playing alot better. By next season he should be ready.

Walcott goal   ???

walcott placed the ball where needed to. At least DeGea didn't get beat first post because he got his angle right.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2013, 05:37:51 AM
Word is that United is linked to bring back Ronaldo. Agent confirms. United looking to secure funds.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 01, 2013, 06:17:56 AM
Told my boys that in the office a couple weeks back.  SAF was going to make a push for everything before he leave the club and the only way to do that was to have RVP and CR7 in the mix.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 01, 2013, 07:52:32 AM
Word is that United is linked to bring back Ronaldo. Agent confirms. United looking to secure funds.


Nike is said to be involve in the attempt to bring him back, he is endorsed by Nike, and they hate seeing him wearing Addidas every week with RM.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2013, 08:26:04 AM
Manchester United feel they may finally have the financial package to force Real Madrid’s hand over a summer move for Cristiano Ronaldo, ESPN understands.

Speculation intensified in England on Tuesday over the forward’s potential return to Old Trafford, with the Sun reporting details of a bid.

ESPN wrote in January, however, that any future move was dependent on a number of circumstances aligning and United figures have privately indicated that is increasingly proving the case.

The biggest stumbling block has been the finances, particularly given Ronaldo’s age and the Old Trafford club’s previous attempts to balance their debt with a prudent financial policy.

Due to the Glazer family’s aggressive marketing, this summer’s significant new Premier League broadcasting deal and a number of huge sponsorship contracts, however, United expect to have a particularly high transfer budget this summer - possibly up to £20 million more than any close-season since 2007. They have also approached their main commercial partners about funding a bid. Whereas Nike said no, though, Chevrolet remain interested.

It is expected that any deal for Ronaldo would involve a fee of between £50 million and £70 million, although United may look to offset it by adding a player. Real, however, have already rejected the prospect of bringing Wayne Rooney to the Bernabeu.

One of the other key facets to any prospective deal is Ronaldo’s personal willingness to make it happen. The 28-year-old has indicated both privately and publicly that he will not sign a new deal with Real when his current contract runs out in 2015, and that will further leverage United’s position. Ronaldo is understood to be unwilling to wait around for another period of relative transition at the Bernabeu once Jose Mourinho makes his anticipated summer departure.

Since January, the Portuguese manager’s exit has effectively been confirmed and, unless Chelsea fail to qualify for the Champions League, the scene looks set for him to make a return to Stamford Bridge.

For his part, and as he now enters the prime of his career, Ronaldo greatly wants to work with Sir Alex Ferguson and United again. Should the chance arise, he would select a move to Old Trafford over Paris Saint-Germain, regardless of wage. The French club are also widely reported to be readying a bid. Ronaldo’s depth of feeling for his old manager and club, though, can genuinely not be understated.

United, though, have been keeping their options open at the same time. Ferguson told United Review: "Hopefully the players we bring into the club in the next year or so will be of the quality we need. We're competitive in the market - we're not Chelsea or Manchester City in terms of money but we're competitive.

"We've been doing a bit of work on that over the last three or four months, targeting who the players are that we feel could enhance us, make us better or help us maintain the level we're at."

Although they have looked at the possibility of a bid for Gareth Bale, any such move is apparently close to a “non-starter”. Not only are Tottenham reluctant to do business with United, the player himself favours a move to Real Madrid far above anyone else if he is to leave White Hart Lane.

The Old Trafford club do remain privately encouraged that a deal for Robert Lewandowski can yet be struck, following on from Ferguson’s comments at the weekend.

Although the Polish striker’s representatives are understood to have agreed the principals of a deal with Bayern Munich, there is nothing sorted with Borussia Dortmund, who are hugely reluctant to let their rivals buy a second of their key players after Mario Gotze.


Similarly, such baseline agreements are common practice for the agents of highly sought-after players, who will look to maximise their client’s opportunities. Lewandowski is known to have a number of other representatives exploring possibilities outside Germany - not least with United.

Again, much of that depends on the future of Rooney - who may yet leave for Paris Saint-Germain. It is set to be a summer of intrigue at Old Trafford.

http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1430712&src=desktop&wjb
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 01, 2013, 09:52:16 AM
i now coming to see what peeps have to say bout dis...Ronaldo, Lewandoski??

We (comprehensively) winning de League by effing Christmas!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 01, 2013, 11:14:57 AM
This summer is going to be crazy transfers and managerial changes everywhere

The Ronaldo return story is refusing to go away, I doubt it will happen but If it does what a parting gift by Fergie to the fans. The return of the King..wow that would be something

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 01, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
All yuh still suckin salt next season  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 01, 2013, 01:42:01 PM
All yuh still suckin salt next season  :devil:

;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 09:08:45 AM
Ah see we showcasing Lindergard!   ;D  And ah see we jumbie  and shitsnake Gus Johnson on the mic! :cursing:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 09:15:46 AM
Valencia pullin stones already!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2013, 09:29:04 AM
Ah see we showcasing Lindergard!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 09:31:31 AM
Ah see we showcasing Lindergard!

 ;D

 ;D Dat was for you!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 05, 2013, 09:33:21 AM
Watching Juventus this morning and wondering how we let Pogba get away, yuh know he gone and spit on ah man and get send off :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 09:40:32 AM
Watching Juventus this morning and wondering how we let Pogba get away, yuh know he gone and spit on ah man and get send off :(

Pogba, great talent but he seem tuh have agents who always looking for the next club. Talk is dey were shoppin him tuh Real already. it will be interesting tuh see how his progresses with his temperament, since he still young.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
No major wrong calls yet, but Howard Webb defo has hit Man U kit on today
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2013, 09:48:02 AM
No major wrong calls yet, but Howard Webb defo has hit Man U kit on today

Stueps.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 10:07:56 AM
No major wrong calls yet, but Howard Webb defo has hit Man U kit on today

Stueps.

Steups? How on earth wasnt that a foul on David Luiz??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 10:45:43 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Talk change now? Thought he had on our Jersey?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 10:53:12 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Talk change now? Thought he had on our Jersey?

He did. It was a red card, I'm just surprised he did the right thing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 05, 2013, 11:25:18 AM
for the last 2 years Chelski fighting to be in the Champions league... They lucky we did not play a strong team against them today, I backing Tottenham for 4th and Arsenal for third.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 05, 2013, 11:25:45 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Well if it isnt Mr Plastic... You still support your beloved Inter or not anymore since they on a downward spiral ?

The biggest Waggonist ever yes

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Well if it isnt Mr Plastic... You still support your beloved Inter or not anymore since they on a downward spiral ?

The biggest Waggonist ever yes



Doh hot yuh head :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 05, 2013, 11:53:26 AM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Well if it isnt Mr Plastic... You still support your beloved Inter or not anymore since they on a downward spiral ?

The biggest Waggonist ever yes



Doh hot yuh head :beermug:

disgusting

CHELSEA RENT BOY CHELSEA RENT BOY HELLO HELLO
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 12:05:40 PM
Cheers Howard  :beermug:

Well if it isnt Mr Plastic... You still support your beloved Inter or not anymore since they on a downward spiral ?

The biggest Waggonist ever yes



Doh hot yuh head :beermug:

disgusting

CHELSEA RENT BOY CHELSEA RENT BOY HELLO HELLO

 :rotfl: Ah havin ah Small Mag flashback dey!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 12:27:46 PM
We need tuh buy at least one or two creative midfielders, along with two more wingers. No midfield no glory! Any side with a better midfield in Europe will always beat us. Ando should have never been subbed for Rooney, who came on, and killed the impetus with his usual careless passing/play.

Valencia should be a squad player, and not first choice right winger, to indecisive and one demensional -and please give back the number 7-you are not worthy of it.
Rooney need tuh either recommit himself to being a professional footballer or buss it. Start the season in shape for once in your life!
Young-not good enough to play for United.
Jones-needs tuh be played as a CB and not midfield-not a good enough passer and doesn't score goals
Kagawa -needs tuh improve his physical fitness, start every match and play in the hole behind RVP
Nani-needs tuh be more mentally stronger, and not let off the field stuff interfere with him being consistent match in and match out.
Ando- same as Rooney
Cleverly- to inconsistent needs tuh start against bottom of the league sides, pass instead of shoot.
Welbeck- needs tuh work with RVP and learn how tuh finish



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
for the last 2 years Chelski fighting to be in the Champions league... They lucky we did not play a strong team against them today, I backing Tottenham for 4th and Arsenal for third.

If again! Ah can't stand that forkin side!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 05, 2013, 12:37:09 PM
Rooney make some bad passes today, lord.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 05, 2013, 12:37:47 PM
for the last 2 years Chelski fighting to be in the Champions league... They lucky we did not play a strong team against them today, I backing Tottenham for 4th and Arsenal for third.

If again! Ah can't stand that forkin side!

haters gonna hate  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 05, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
We need tuh buy at least one or two creative midfielders, along with two more wingers. No midfield no glory! Any side with a better midfield in Europe will always beat us. Ando should have never been subbed for Rooney, who came on, and killed the impetus with his usual careless passing/play.

Valencia should be a squad player, and not first choice right winger, to indecisive and one demensional -and please give back the number 7-you are not worthy of it.
Rooney need tuh either recommit himself to being a professional footballer or buss it. Start the season in shape for once in your life!
Young-not good enough to play for United.
Jones-needs tuh be played as a CB and not midfield-not a good enough passer and doesn't score goals
Kagawa -needs tuh improve his physical fitness, start every match and play in the hole behind RVP
Nani-needs tuh be more mentally stronger, and not let off the field stuff interfere with him being consistent match in and match out.
Ando- same as Rooney
Cleverly- to inconsistent needs tuh start against bottom of the league sides, pass instead of shoot.
Welbeck- needs tuh work with RVP and learn how tuh finish

yuh spot on with everything there

The Rooney bit is interesting.. he seems unfit, lacking ambition and very very casual this year. As you said, its look in the mirror time, either get into amazing condition and come out swinging or move on.. I never want to see Rooney leave United, It would be a shame but at this point this is the last chance for us to make money on him so If he stays he has to have a huge pre season

I do not want to lose Nani... Valencia should be the one sold.. absolute garbage he's been this season . Shocking beyond belief.. Fergie trusts him alot so no way he's moving on.. decent squad player to have but hopefully he regains form..surely he cannot be as bad next year..surely

Kagawa is going to be immense next season. He should play in the hole as its is best position or wide left in a 4-2-3-1 not hugging the line but allowed to come in and join the attack

We need a world class wide man.. be it Ronaldo or Bale.. it is necessary..we are lacking a driving force

A CM or 2 .. Gundogan would be perfect but I reckon we will see Strootman from PSV

Also I would buy Baines and send Buttner on loan to get experience and allow Evra his last year at the club to provide cover for Baines
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
We need tuh buy at least one or two creative midfielders, along with two more wingers. No midfield no glory! Any side with a better midfield in Europe will always beat us. Ando should have never been subbed for Rooney, who came on, and killed the impetus with his usual careless passing/play.

Valencia should be a squad player, and not first choice right winger, to indecisive and one demensional -and please give back the number 7-you are not worthy of it.
Rooney need tuh either recommit himself to being a professional footballer or buss it. Start the season in shape for once in your life!
Young-not good enough to play for United.
Jones-needs tuh be played as a CB and not midfield-not a good enough passer and doesn't score goals
Kagawa -needs tuh improve his physical fitness, start every match and play in the hole behind RVP
Nani-needs tuh be more mentally stronger, and not let off the field stuff interfere with him being consistent match in and match out.
Ando- same as Rooney
Cleverly- to inconsistent needs tuh start against bottom of the league sides, pass instead of shoot.
Welbeck- needs tuh work with RVP and learn how tuh finish

yuh spot on with everything there

The Rooney bit is interesting.. he seems unfit, lacking ambition and very very casual this year. As you said, its look in the mirror time, either get into amazing condition and come out swinging or move on.. I never want to see Rooney leave United, It would be a shame but at this point this is the last chance for us to make money on him so If he stays he has to have a huge pre season

I do not want to lose Nani... Valencia should be the one sold.. absolute garbage he's been this season . Shocking beyond belief.. Fergie trusts him alot so no way he's moving on.. decent squad player to have but hopefully he regains form..surely he cannot be as bad next year..surely

Kagawa is going to be immense next season. He should play in the hole as its is best position or wide left in a 4-2-3-1 not hugging the line but allowed to come in and join the attack

We need a world class wide man.. be it Ronaldo or Bale.. it is necessary..we are lacking a driving force

A CM or 2 .. Gundogan would be perfect but I reckon we will see Strootman from PSV

Also I would buy Baines and send Buttner on loan to get experience and allow Evra his last year at the club to provide cover for Baines

A strong and skilled midfield, we set, and we will dominate all before us. Regarding the LB position, ah would love tuh see us share the position, between Buttner and Fabio next season, vs spending money on Baines we can use on another position of need. I would hate tuh lose Fabio and he end up being world class. I think we can manage with both of dem sharing the position depending on what we need per opponent.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 05, 2013, 01:06:36 PM
Allure better leave my Evra on LB, he does make make some mistakes, but he has been one of our better players for the past few years. Fabio can't fill that spot and Buttner is alright, but needs more experience in that wing role.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 05, 2013, 01:23:04 PM
Allure better leave my Evra on LB, he does make make some mistakes, but he has been one of our better players for the past few years. Fabio can't fill that spot and Buttner is alright, but needs more experience in that wing role.

I am an Evra fan, he loves the jersey and is committed; the man is an unbelieveable athlete and like a cat on the field. He is great going forward but does lapse a lil to much on defense, including always tucking in and leaving wide men with all types of room tuh roam. I wouldn't buy Baines tuh replace him doh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 07, 2013, 07:55:52 PM
Breaking news :



Sir Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United future was shrouded in doubt on Tuesday night with the Scot understood to be giving serious consideration to ending his 26-year reign as manager.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10042798/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-considering-retiring-as-Manchester-United-manager-before-end-of-the-week.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 07, 2013, 08:09:42 PM
Hello Jose.

Just Speculating lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 08, 2013, 04:27:14 AM
Hello Jose.

Just Speculating lol

After watching  both games and press conferences of champions league matches between  Real and Man U, I got the sense that Jose was auditioning for his future managerial position. He was extremely humble and courteous to both SAF and the ManU community.
If this move is made, this would be a huge slap in the face to Chelsea after all the rumors of him returning....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2013, 04:28:03 AM
It has been confirmed he will be leaving at the end of the season. Don't feel like posting any story. Very sad, never thought I would see the day. Life without Fergie will be strange. Ah hope we hire someone who will keep the forward progress going and maintain the values of the club. Jah boi!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2013, 04:30:21 AM
Thank you Fergie for all you have done for our club, football and our fans! :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 08, 2013, 04:31:49 AM
Hello Jose.

Just Speculating lol

After watching  both games and press conferences of champions league matches between  Real and Man U, I got the sense that Jose was auditioning for his future managerial position. He was extremely humble and courteous to both SAF and the ManU community.
If this move is made, this would be a huge slap in the face to Chelsea after all the rumors of him returning....

Talk exists that Fergie retired so Jose would not return to Chelski.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 04:50:59 AM
Quote
Don't worry.

If we add in "Fergie Time" he wont leave till next season!

In all seriousness,whatever you think of him you have to respect the fact that he is a winner and a great, great manager.

From the comments section on the BBC. :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 05:01:07 AM
Jose! Jose!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 08, 2013, 06:53:19 AM
Damn.....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 07:19:42 AM
Good riddance, goodbye, don't let the door hit yuh on de way out.  :salute:


Quote
Don't worry.

If we add in "Fergie Time" he wont leave till next season!

In all seriousness,whatever you think of him you have to respect the fact that he is a winner and a great, great manager.

From the comments section on the BBC. :)


   :rotfl: :rotfl:

   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 08, 2013, 07:34:47 AM
Good riddance, goodbye, don't let the door hit yuh on de way out.  :salute:


Quote
Don't worry.

If we add in "Fergie Time" he wont leave till next season!

In all seriousness,whatever you think of him you have to respect the fact that he is a winner and a great, great manager.

From the comments section on the BBC. :)


   :rotfl: :rotfl:

 

expect nothing less from a Chelsea fan

probably a waggonist f**king one at that

Fergie gave your countryman a chance to shine on the world stage and win prem medals and a CL title while GLOBALLY exposing T&T and that is the respect you give ?

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sjahrain on May 08, 2013, 07:46:27 AM
Just heard that tidbit on NPR
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on May 08, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
A sad day. I feel as if a relative has died. Manchester United will move on though.

To Sir Alex; thanks for EVERYTHING.

"...we'll keep the Red Flag flying high coz Man United will never die..."

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 08, 2013, 08:20:47 AM
David Moyes?!?!?!?!?!

How they come up with that????
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 08:37:02 AM
... Fyzo, go back a few pages ... Brought up the Moyes thing earlier this year or late last year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 09:08:19 AM
Good riddance, goodbye, don't let the door hit yuh on de way out.  :salute:


Quote
Don't worry.

If we add in "Fergie Time" he wont leave till next season!

In all seriousness,whatever you think of him you have to respect the fact that he is a winner and a great, great manager.

From the comments section on the BBC. :)


   :rotfl: :rotfl:

 

expect nothing less from a Chelsea fan

probably a waggonist f**king one at that

Fergie gave your countryman a chance to shine on the world stage and win prem medals and a CL title while GLOBALLY exposing T&T and that is the respect you give ?




...like I give a f**k about you and your expectations....I supporting Chelsea long before they started becoming a "successful" club, could you say the same?...talkin' 'bout "waggonist".....not that I care but It's probably media marketing and steady diet of "success" that have half ah allyuh supporting teams so hard so hush yuh c**t wit dat talk.

Understand this eh: it was my countryman's TALENT that gave him the opportunity to shine "GLOBALLY".  "sir" alex wasn't going to give a rat's ass about who Dwight Yorke was if Dwight wasn't proving his worth at Aston Villa, who, if yuh want to be correct, was the team that really "gave him his break".  Dwight was not no shit snake pet-rescue like (pick a neville brother) that fergie rescued from the ASPCA and turned into a cinderella story.  Sooner than later, ONE of the bigger European clubs was going to sign Dwight and he was going to light up the global stage regardless. Rrrrrrrrride out wit dah shit-talk, horse, but pull yuh head outta fergie ass so yuh could at least see where yuh going.

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 08, 2013, 09:20:24 AM
Good to see his back.   Good riddance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 09:21:51 AM
Rel hatorade. It have a 2 for one special today?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 08, 2013, 09:23:03 AM
real classless ppl here boy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 08, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Not denying his achievements, but good to see him leave.  I being honest, and probably frank.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 09:42:37 AM
Rel hatorade. It have a 2 for one special today?

     ;D You're welcomed.  ;D


 
Not denying his achievements, but good to see him leave.  I being honest, and probably frank.

Totally agree....no one can deny what he has accomplished in English football, but if yuh arkske me, he is a bit overrated and classless himself. So all the people cryin' about people having no "class" dem could keep sittin' on fergie lap suckin dey thumb.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on May 08, 2013, 09:50:17 AM


 
Not denying his achievements, but good to see him leave.  I being honest, and probably frank.

Totally agree....no one can deny what he has accomplished in English football, but if yuh arkske me, he is a bit overrated and classless himself. So all the people cryin' about people having no "class" dem could keep sittin' on fergie lap suckin dey thumb.
[/quote]

that is surely laughable
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 09:57:59 AM


 
Not denying his achievements, but good to see him leave.  I being honest, and probably frank.

Totally agree....no one can deny what he has accomplished in English football, but if yuh arkske me, he is a bit overrated and classless himself. So all the people cryin' about people having no "class" dem could keep sittin' on fergie lap suckin dey thumb.

that is surely laughable
[/quote]

  ...to any manu fan, any criticism of their team and messiah is always laughable...but the evidence is always there....don't bother placing any burden of objectivity upon yourselves...most people don't expect it from y'all.   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 08, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
Mango Chow yes..what a classless c**t
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 10:14:55 AM
Mango Chow yes..what a classless c**t

  Just make sure yuh spell meh name correck please....learn to pay attention to detail....especially since fergie has shown...it is better to be classless and astute than backward and unobservant. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 08, 2013, 10:15:41 AM
Mango Chow yes..what a classless c**t

  Just make sure yuh spell meh name correck please....learn to pay attention to detail....especially since fergie has shown...it is better to be classless and astute than backward and unobservant.

Mango Chow! yes..what a classless c**t

better c**t ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 10:25:05 AM
Mango Chow yes..what a classless c**t

  Just make sure yuh spell meh name correck please....learn to pay attention to detail....especially since fergie has shown...it is better to be classless and astute than backward and unobservant.

Mango Chow! yes..what a classless c**t

better c**t ?

  Now, just work on yuh punctuation and render yuh some reverence classes (that would be "Mister c**t" to you) and maybe somebody might be able to put yuh c**t where yuh forehead is and f**k some sense into yuh. But fuh now, yuh makin' strides.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 08, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
He will forever be a legend at the greatest English club there is, he will be missed on the side lines leading our players to victory after victory. No doubt he is one of the top 5 coaches ever!! No time to justify this man' s achievement to "buy a trophy" team supporters. Maybe now they will stand a chance to win some. We will still see him, cause he will be joining the board.

On another note, I seriously hope it's not David Moyes. This day was coming, so no need to sulk over it, lets embrace this new challenge, and welcome the new coach. There will be big expectations of him, and he will not have an easy time. Hopefully he has an impact immediately. Welcome to the greatest English Football Club coach!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 10:43:12 AM
He will forever be a legend at the greatest English club there is, he will be missed on the side lines leading our players to victory after victory. No doubt he is one of the top 5 coaches ever!! No time to justify this man' s achievement to "buy a trophy" teams. Maybe now they will stand a chance to win some. We will still see him, cause he will be joining the board.

On another note, I seriously hope it's not David Moyes. This day was coming, so no need to sulk over it, lets embrace this new challenge, and welcome the new coach. There will be big expectations of him, and he will not have an easy time. Hopefully he has an impact immediately. Welcome to the greatest English Football Club coach!!

   As much as they say Moyes is cut from the same cloth as fergie, I am not sure that he will be able to fill that "win, or else" mentality that fergie injected in his teams.  Yuh could rest assured, everybody and dey mudder smellin' blood right now, whether prematurely or not. One thing I always respected about manu was that they were determined to win their games and they never feared anybody in England even if, on paper, they may have had an inferior team on any given day.  If you were one of the teams bringing up the bottom of the league, you had to have a serious stroke of luck coincide with a bad manu (and officiating) day to defeat manu.  Way more often than not, though, those teams were defeated before they even left the dressing room.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 10:53:48 AM
I want a Big coach.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
No time to justify this man' s achievement to "buy a trophy" team supporters. 

  Teams can't buy trophies...they can only buy players and hire coaches to win trophies....Rumour has it that manu did their share of buying players just like everyone else but credit must and will always be given to them for having fergie as a constant.  His longevity will never be replicated...but I will wager that there are many more than 4 coaches out there that would achieve the same domestic results and maybe even three times as many more "trophies" (in more dominating and convincing styles) in Europe than fergie did.....with the same resources. (referees and FA in their back pocket included) 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2013, 11:17:53 AM
Good to see his back.   Good riddance.

Yeah good riddance.  Great manager.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 08, 2013, 11:35:24 AM
No time to justify this man' s achievement to "buy a trophy" team supporters. 

  Teams can't buy trophies...they can only buy players and hire coaches to win trophies....Rumour has it that manu did their share of buying players just like everyone else but credit must and will always be given to them for having fergie as a constant.  His longevity will never be replicated...but I will wager that there are many more than 4 coaches out there that would achieve the same domestic results and maybe even three times as many more "trophies" (in more dominating and convincing styles) in Europe than fergie did.....with the same resources. (referees and FA in their back pocket included) 
;D I was surprised that you did not comment on that in your response earlier..it was a dig at Chelsea and Man.C lol.. Just saw on Sky that in all his years he has spent over 500 million on players, but after selling players as well, the net amount was in range of 250 million in all his years. That is not bad at all. I'll try to get the exact figures. Too lazy right now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 08, 2013, 11:38:50 AM
They keep saying Moyes is in pole position for the position. Hope not!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 11:51:59 AM
They keep saying Moyes is in pole position for the position. Hope not!

Stueps dont like him
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
No time to justify this man' s achievement to "buy a trophy" team supporters. 

  Teams can't buy trophies...they can only buy players and hire coaches to win trophies....Rumour has it that manu did their share of buying players just like everyone else but credit must and will always be given to them for having fergie as a constant.  His longevity will never be replicated...but I will wager that there are many more than 4 coaches out there that would achieve the same domestic results and maybe even three times as many more "trophies" (in more dominating and convincing styles) in Europe than fergie did.....with the same resources. (referees and FA in their back pocket included) 
;D I was surprised that you did not comment on that in your response earlier..it was a dig at Chelsea and Man.C lol.. Just saw on Sky that in all his years he has spent over 500 million on players, but after selling players as well, the net amount was in range of 250 million in all his years. That is not bad at all. I'll try to get the exact figures. Too lazy right now.

     :D Yuh lucky ah didn't see it at first otherwise yuh woulda end up sendin' dat bitch-ass moderator after meh!  I, too, saw the little piece on sky and I will say, he was the right man for that club, in the right place at the right time.  He is a no-nonsense man and with the club's legacy (whether we all see it in the same light or not) as his backing, I could see how he could start putting out feelers for talented players at various clubs and win the negotiation battles.  When you are a young or developing prospect and manu come knocking, I could see him saying "you can take our offer or leave it" and teams giving in to that.  If that is how he is, I agree I would want somebody like that laying down the policy for player purchase at my club. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on May 08, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
The real question on everyone's mind is what's going to Mike Phelan?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on May 08, 2013, 12:25:50 PM
... Fyzo, go back a few pages ... Brought up the Moyes thing earlier this year or late last year.
My bad, I miss (or forget) that, so had they mentioned him as a replacement or was he someone you wanted?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
Wha allyuh go do when yuh find out is Benitez ... and that this has been one incestuous cluster?  :devil:


(Whereas, I was serious about Jose ... I'm kidding here). ;D

Ah feel Jose looking fuh a short-term wuk before he wrests the reigns of the 2018 WC campaign for the Portuguese.  ::) Manu is not exactly a short-term gig.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 12:37:11 PM
... Fyzo, go back a few pages ... Brought up the Moyes thing earlier this year or late last year.
My bad, I miss (or forget) that, so had they mentioned him as a replacement or was he someone you wanted?

Question regarding the Manchester United succession planning: what's so special about David Moyes?

Nah, I not on board the David Moyes train, but I understand the calculus that allegedly has insinuated him into speculation.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 12:39:16 PM
Wha allyuh go do when yuh find out is Benitez ... and that this has been one incestuous cluster?  :devil:


(Whereas, I was serious about Jose ... I'm kidding here). ;D

Ah feel Jose looking fuh a short-term wuk before he wrests the reigns of the 2018 WC campaign for the Portuguese.  ::) Manu is not exactly a short-term gig.

D Dortmund coach name get thrown in the bag too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
Good to see his back.   Good riddance.

Yeah good riddance.  Great manager.

Ghosts of Fergie:

"My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f***ing perch. And you can print that."

On whether Liverpool would win the title in 2007:
"You must be joking. Do I look as if I'm a masochist ready to cut myself? How does relegation sound instead?"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on May 08, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
As a mark of respect 6 minutes of extra time will be added to every Premier League game this weekend.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 01:00:26 PM
Whoever gets this job:

1. hadda be someone Fergie respects
2. someone the Glazers like and feel dey could wuk wid
3. hadda be able to immediately command and capture the attention of the players
4. hadda be able to master the structural components and considerations of Man U's set up (inclusive of $ ... not just this youth player talk)
5. hadda be not offensive to the terraces and Man U's global brand
6. doh have a steep learning curve in the EPL
7. Capable of achieving Champions League qualification (which likely favours someone who has demonstrated this competency in the past)
8. Come recommended by Fergie
9. can geh de wuk done without being unduly concerned about Fergie still being bout de place
10. going to take de job with a view to being in the role for longer than is typical of the EPL (has shown that sort of tenacity)
11. what else?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
As a mark of respect 6 minutes of extra time will be added to every Premier League game this weekend.

...or until the home team scores the equalizing/winning goal  ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 08, 2013, 03:28:34 PM
BREAKING News: Manchester United is looking at bringing in a coach that can do some damage. Reports coming in is that he is a native of Trinidad and Tobago. A close friend of that individual as leaked information on the web site "Nonya" short for "Nonyabusiness" It was reported that the friend indicated that his close friend and colleague will be with the Red Devils sooner, rather than later as expected. He also stated that he will be joining the ranks as soon as his colleague signs the contract because once his friend has a job, he too will be hired. So who is this mystery man?
 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 08, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
I was thinking Martin O'neil would be a good candidate.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 08, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sir-alex-ferguson-aberdeen-years-1876862
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 08, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
True. I am also a Celtic fan and immediately wanted to know how the hell Aberdeen had become so good enough to beat Celtic-Ranger mafioso. That is when I took notice of Ferguson. Was not expecting him to go to Utd though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 08, 2013, 04:22:42 PM
Whoever gets this job:

1. hadda be someone Fergie respects
2. someone the Glazers like and feel dey could wuk wid
3. hadda be able to immediately command and capture the attention of the players
4. hadda be able to master the structural components and considerations of Man U's set up (inclusive of $ ... not just this youth player talk)
5. hadda be not offensive to the terraces and Man U's global brand
6. doh have a steep learning curve in the EPL
7. Capable of achieving Champions League qualification (which likely favours someone who has demonstrated this competency in the past)
8. Come recommended by Fergie
9. can geh de wuk done without being unduly concerned about Fergie still being bout de place
10. going to take de job with a view to being in the role for longer than is typical of the EPL (has shown that sort of tenacity)
11. what else?

Based on this criteria, it looking like its a toss up between David Moyes and Howard Webb
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 08, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
SAF, sometimes a whiner, but mostly a winner.  He served the game well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:



  ....was thinking the same thing all day. Truly remarkable what he did there in a short space of time. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 08, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/c16mH-Kaooc&
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 05:46:29 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:



  ....was thinking the same thing all day. Truly remarkable what he did there in a short space of time.

Espn had a documentary about him. Even when the team won he still wasn't satisfied. Man was cussing while the players celebrating. Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:



  ....was thinking the same thing all day. Truly remarkable what he did there in a short space of time.

Espn had a documentary about him. Even when the team won he still wasn't satisfied. Man was cussing while the players celebrating. Lol




  Yeah, that is that "win or else....there's the door" mentality....lettin dem know they couldn't rest on their laurels....all the players that talk about him talk about how much he demands of them and you could see it in their relentless play in their domestic play....is only when dey (or, should I say, "allyuh") come up against them European giants allyuh does boil dong like bahgie.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:



  ....was thinking the same thing all day. Truly remarkable what he did there in a short space of time.

Espn had a documentary about him. Even when the team won he still wasn't satisfied. Man was cussing while the players celebrating. Lol




  Yeah, that is that "win or else....there's the door" mentality....lettin dem know they couldn't rest on their laurels....all the players that talk about him talk about how much he demands of them and you could see it in their relentless play in their domestic play....is only when dey (or, should I say, "allyuh") come up against them European giants allyuh does boil dong like bahgie.  ;D

You mean when referees rob we.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
A bredrin pointed out that there was chatter about CR7 returning to Man U. He associates this as an omen that Mourinho is heading to Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
A bredrin pointed out that there was chatter about CR7 returning to Man U. He associates this as an omen that Mourinho is heading to Old Trafford.

That go be a perfect match. I wonder if them fellas plan this thing?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2013, 08:07:47 PM
As impressive as his resume with Man Utd is, let's not forget what Sir Alex achieved in Scotland and in Europe with Aberdeen, breaking up the Old Firm duopoly in the process:



  ....was thinking the same thing all day. Truly remarkable what he did there in a short space of time.

Espn had a documentary about him. Even when the team won he still wasn't satisfied. Man was cussing while the players celebrating. Lol




  Yeah, that is that "win or else....there's the door" mentality....lettin dem know they couldn't rest on their laurels....all the players that talk about him talk about how much he demands of them and you could see it in their relentless play in their domestic play....is only when dey (or, should I say, "allyuh") come up against them European giants allyuh does boil dong like bahgie.  ;D

You mean when referees rob we.

  manu has never been robbed....not in England. Not in Europe.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
One could only imagine how grateful Van Persie must be to have squeezed this season in under SAF.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 08, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
David Moyes will be the new manager. Stueps.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22453895


Edit. Oh and Rooney wants to leave.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 08, 2013, 10:20:51 PM
I deleted my post about taking Benitez over Moyes...i thought about it, and decided that I will give him a chance. Fergie did not have any European experience before he took over and look what happened. The only down side, Rooney might not last very long with Moyes after his book that caused problems between them. The other positive I am trying to comfort myself with is the fact that he has done well with limited funds and lasted 10 years at Everton. I know Fergie will coach him form time to time to help improve the team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 09, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Appoint Moyes....I would smile with that one. ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on May 09, 2013, 07:40:51 AM
Appoint Moyes....I would smile with that one. ;)


Not yet confirmed... however....
....
....

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2013/5/9/1368106035465/Manchester-United-Faceboo-008.jpg)


2.38pm BST
EVERTON STATEMENT

"Everton can confIrm that David Moyes will leave the club at the end of the season."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on May 09, 2013, 07:43:11 AM
What will Moyes time be like??



2.41pm BST

Here's the statement on Everton's website.

    Everton can confirm that David Moyes will leave the Club at the end of the season.

    The Manager met Chairman Bill Kenwright early yesterday evening (Wednesday 8th May) and confirmed his desire to join Manchester United. The Chairman, on behalf of the Club, would like to place on record his thanks to David for the massive contribution he has made to Everton since his arrival in March 2002. He has been an outstanding Manager.
    During his tenure at Goodison Park, David has taken charge of the team on over 500 occasions including four European campaigns.
    His final two games as Everton Manager will be the remaining Premier League matches against West Ham United and Chelsea. Everton officials will start the search for a replacement manager immediately.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 09, 2013, 07:59:18 AM
Yu know, I for one will welcome David Moyes as manager.  That way SAF will get to still have a say in team selection/player signing etc.  If the Great one comes to the club, SAF will have nothing more to do with the team.  Jus sad that Rooney will be on the sh*t list if he can't transfer out the club.  Then again, you never know nah.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on May 09, 2013, 09:17:18 AM
I deleted my post about taking Benitez over Moyes...i thought about it, and decided that I will give him a chance. Fergie did not have any European experience before he took over and look what happened. The only down side, Rooney might not last very long with Moyes after his book that caused problems between them. The other positive I am trying to comfort myself with is the fact that he has done well with limited funds and lasted 10 years at Everton. I know Fergie will coach him form time to time to help improve the team.

Actually, under Ferguson's management, Aberdeen won the European Cup Winner's Cup, beating Bayern Munich along the way and Real Madrid in the final. They also won the UEFA Super Cup the same year. This is in addition to the trophies he won in Scotland as Aberdeen broke up the Celtic/Rangers duopoly.

He went to ManU with a strong reputation. Before accepting ManU he was highly sought-after, turning down a number of offers from England including Arsenal and Tottenham.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
6 year deal, Moyes is new Manager
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 09, 2013, 09:38:08 AM
Talk done...Next to see CR7 back..Rooney in real trouble now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 09, 2013, 10:59:42 AM
I doubt CR coming back with Fergie gone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on May 09, 2013, 11:11:55 AM
I doubt CR coming back with Fergie gone.

SAF not gone....He's the puppet master
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on May 09, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Moyes is a decent manager and it makes sense to appoint him as he was hand picked by Fergie. I would have liked Martinez to have been given a chance but maybe he eh British enough and maybe hopefully he could get Everton as his style of coaching/play is an exciting one. Jose would have been my ideal choice as a big club needs a big name coach to draw the best players but he would have told the glazers to HDMC everytime they question him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 09, 2013, 03:03:16 PM
I doubt CR coming back with Fergie gone.

SAF not gone....He's the puppet master

At least Fergie vow never to step foot into de man dressing room.  Either way, the shadow will still be looming in the background somewhere.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 09, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
Rooney will not be Mr. Popular on Sunday. Just a sample of tweet posted by a fan after Rooney removed "Manchester United player from his Twitter profile.

OI YOU F**KING W***ER THINK YOU'RE HARD THREATENING TO LEAVE MUFC YOU GRANNY S***GING C*** WATCH YOUR BACK P***K."

us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on May 09, 2013, 09:03:18 PM
Rooney will not be Mr. Popular on Sunday. Just a sample of tweet posted by a fan after Rooney removed "Manchester United player from his Twitter profile.

OI YOU F**KING W***ER THINK YOU'RE HARD THREATENING TO LEAVE MUFC YOU GRANNY S***GING C*** WATCH YOUR BACK P***K."

us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook
Is either he or Moyes
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 09, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
Rooney will not be Mr. Popular on Sunday. Just a sample of tweet posted by a fan after Rooney removed "Manchester United player from his Twitter profile.

OI YOU F**KING W***ER THINK YOU'RE HARD THREATENING TO LEAVE MUFC YOU GRANNY S***GING C*** WATCH YOUR BACK P***K."

us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook
Is either he or Moyes
It will be him, Rooney ask for a transfer since last week. They will sell him, they did not bring in Moyes on a 6 year contract to pull a Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 10, 2013, 05:02:40 AM
I can live without Rooney. Another united outcast
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 10, 2013, 05:17:41 AM
Clear example of no player is/should be bigger than the club. Fergie done factor in Rooney's likely response into his decision-making. I would like to see him ball outside the EPL.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 11, 2013, 03:06:11 PM
Scholes set to retire

Paul Scholes will end his playing career at the end of this season.

Scholes, 38, previously announced his retirement at the end of the 2010/11 season, but made a shock return to the team on 8 January 2012 when he came on as a substitute in the FA Cup third round victory at Manchester City.

The midfielder was part of the new wave of talent that came through to the first-team during the mid-1990s, and has gone on to enjoy a long and successful career, making an incredible 716 appearances for Manchester United.

Sir Alex Ferguson said: “Paul is a truly unbelievable player. He has always been fully committed to this club and it has been a real privilege to work with him for so many years. Paul will play at Old Trafford on Sunday against Swansea and will collect an unbelievable but well-deserved 11th Premier League medal."

Paul Scholes said: “Yes, I am finally hanging up my boots for good! Playing football is all I have ever wanted to do, and so to have had such a long and successful career at Manchester United, under the greatest manager of all time, has been an honour. The team has the right balance and will continue to thrive under the leadership of David Moyes.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/May/paul-scholes-retires-from-football.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=FB0226
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 11, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
Scholes set to retire

  Who cares?!  ::)   LMAO!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on May 11, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Farewell to the ginger prince
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 11, 2013, 06:19:51 PM
Paul Scholes- :applause: :notworthy: Hope the fellas learn from you while you were still there. Giggsy, Evra, Vida and Rio tuh keep the flag flying. Hope the young players are learning so they can keep the standards and expectations high once the ole timers buss it. Rooney can haul his fat arse!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 08:51:17 AM
No Rooney for the match-in a tracksuit in a suite.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2013, 09:04:53 AM
Regardless of what I think of allyuh team and allyuh coach, ah still say, much respect to de man.  Yuh cyah love this game and not be moved by that scene.   :beermug: This should be a good game to watch!!

....ah waitin' to hyear what this whole rooney-in-a-suite ting is all about on a special day like today....what, he too emotional to be out their showin' his respect?
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Post by: dotless007 on May 12, 2013, 09:06:36 AM
Amazing stuff, nice touch giving the swansea supporters "capital one winners" flags
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Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2013, 09:11:30 AM
Amazing stuff, nice touch giving the swansea supporters "capital one winners" flags

  ah didn't see dat but yeah....but wait!....yuh sure dem Swansea fans didn't get dat from since in Wales?! Visiting teams aren't known to be "given" anyting in OT yuh know.... :devil:
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Post by: Cantona007 on May 12, 2013, 09:20:07 AM
Emotional day.
Kagawa looking the business today; Rooney who?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Regardless of what I think of allyuh team and allyuh coach, ah still say, much respect to de man.  Yuh cyah love this game and not be moved by that scene.   :beermug: This should be a good game to watch!!

....ah waitin' to hyear what this whole rooney-in-a-suite ting is all about on a special day like today....what, he too emotional to be out their showin' his respect?

Yeah boi-got teary eyed watching it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 09:43:47 AM
Buh a, a, Carrick doing rolly polly oui! ;D Ah bet RVP wishing this season didn't have tuh end!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
Jones can't cross to save his life
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Rio boy. The man rattle the net yes.


Typical united comeback
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Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
Cry ;(
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Post by: triniairman on May 12, 2013, 10:54:53 AM
This shit got me feeling the same way I felt when Spartacus died lol... This some sad stuff.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
Damn, I love my United! GGMU!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 11:00:31 AM
By the way dat chewing gum he throw just now-somebody need tuh pick up! I thave people out dey who would buy dat!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 12, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
And let the collapse begin lol
Not many men get to retire on top, that must be a nice feeling.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 12, 2013, 11:05:46 AM
And let the collapse begin lol
Not many men get to retire on top, that must be a nice feeling.
haha keep dreaming bout that collapse talk. We will have a rough start, but as usual we will overcome and dominate again. It's not like Fergie wil just sit upstairs and watch Man.U fail.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2013, 11:09:03 AM
Like rooney pullin' a John Terry dey boy.  ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: g on May 12, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
Men like Scholes represent the ending of an era of one club careers, at least clubs that play in the upper tiers of professional football. Scholes, Carragher and then Giggs, dont recall anybody else of note.

In modern day football there are no loyalties, only contracts.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 12, 2013, 11:15:15 AM
Men like Scholes represent the ending of an era of one club careers, at least clubs that play in the upper tiers of professional football. Scholes, Carragher and then Giggs, dont recall anybody else of note.

In modern day football there are no loyalties, only contracts.

Chelsea - John Terry
Liverpool - Steven Gerrard
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 12, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
Tear *
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 11:23:21 AM
And let the collapse begin lol
Not many men get to retire on top, that must be a nice feeling.

YUH WISH
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 12, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
We doh die, we multiply; We Bebe kids!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 12, 2013, 11:33:56 AM
Men like Scholes represent the ending of an era of one club careers, at least clubs that play in the upper tiers of professional football. Scholes, Carragher and then Giggs, dont recall anybody else of note.

In modern day football there are no loyalties, only contracts.

 Yuh have to take that word,"Loyalty", with a grain of salt.  Most (if not all) of these clubs and their owners and board members are only loyal to profit and nothing else, no matter what you see and hear them say when the cameras are pointed at them.  Maybe when a club is now forming up in its embryonic stages and it takes local players from the neighbourhood to be club members and fill out the roster, yeah, but as the club itself gets bigger and its goals and objectives change, then the players are seen more and more as commodities and less of "club members".  Players have to go where their interests are best met and their futures are more secured, too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Blue on May 12, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
SAF just confirmed that Rooney asked for a transfer (which is why he didn't play).

He said Rooney asked for a transfer and needed time to think it over.

He also confirmed matter of factly that they aren't gonna let him go (so I guess thinking it over = salting on the sidelines) :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 12, 2013, 11:54:50 AM
Ride pine and hush yuh mouth hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on May 12, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
Loyalty must go both ways. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Flex on May 13, 2013, 04:25:13 AM
First things first: Sir Alex Ferguson is not a great man, just a great football manager.
By Fazeer Mohammed (Express).


Suitable tyrant

Great men (or women) change the world. Great football managers, like any other outstanding achievers in any sport—be it coach, player or administrator—achieve phenomenal success to the extent of establishing a standard that the immediate successor, in this case David Moyes, will find very difficult to emulate, far less exceed. They may even change the culture of the organisation in which they perform, developing a template, give or take a few minor alterations in keeping with the trends of the time, that virtually guarantees more triumphs and more trophies in the years to come.

But that’s all. To those unfortunate souls for whom football or any other sporting triviality is the be and end all of their existence, it may appear that the Fergusons of this world are the type of people who should be running a country like ours, who would whip our lazy, don’t-care-damn backsides into shape, who would transform us into a lean, mean, efficient money-making machine with a GDP soaring even higher than Patrick’s towers of self-delusion and vanity in downtown Port of Spain or Kamla’s helicopter-turned-taxi whirring its way to another costly exercise in self-promotion.

Yet that would only be the case if you are prepared to surrender individual and institutional rights and freedoms which are some of the very few things we value in this twin-island madhouse.

Fundamental to his astonishing success with English champions Manchester United (38 major trophies in 27 years, including a record 13 Premier League titles) was his tyrannical control over the football side of the celebrated club.

Step out of his fiercely regimented line more than once and you were gone. Fail to buy into his philosophy that demanded unyielding loyalty to Manchester United at the expense of all else and you would be transfer-listed faster than you could say “Dwight Yorke”. Criticise him, his family or his club or raise questions about certain issues that are perfectly legitimate and you and your media house would be banned from any media conference involving him for years, as was the case with the revered BBC for seven—yes, seven—years.

Sport has never been and never will be about democracy. It is the equivalent of a totalitarian state, a North Korea-type environment where homage is paid to the club, its players and its leader, where brainwashed subjects prioritise scarce resources for that precious season ticket and a treasured reserved spot in the hallowed Stretford End, the equivalent of the front pews at the “Theatre of Dreams”.

Ferguson exploited brilliantly the religious fervour attached to football in the United Kingdom, from success in his native Scotland with Aberdeen in breaking the stranglehold of Glasgow rivals Rangers and Celtic in the early 1980s to eventually shaping Manchester United into the club and the team that he wanted and which he knew, once his subjects in the dressing room vowed their unstinting loyalty to him, would bring the sort of success, and more, that the great footballing institution had been craving since the glory days of George Best and Bobby Charlton in the late 1960s.

And it is important to note the “eventually” in that last paragraph for, as most would know, it was three-and-a-half years from the day he took over at United before he was able to lift a major trophy following victory over Crystal Palace in the 1990 FA Cup Final replay. That’s another thing to note: a tyrant is only as powerful as the intimidating, threatening muscle behind the iron fist.

Just as the successive Kims of North Korea have relied on military might to prevent long-suffering millions from toppling their leader and stringing him up in Pyongyang’s main square, so too did Ferguson have the unyielding support of the Manchester United hierarchy at the time when the plebians in the stands were hoisting banners calling for him to go after United were thrashed 5-1 at fierce rivals Manchester City and reached the end of December, 1989 just out of the relegation zone, a period that the Scot is reported to have referred to as “the darkest period ever suffered in the game”.

However he turned it around, not only because he was a great football manager and an excellent man-manager of the many different egos and personalities who have worn the famous Manchester United uniform over more than a quarter-of-a-century under his control, but because he had the backing of the club’s executive management, was given the resources to build a squad in his own image, and was vested with complete authority in football matters as those at the helm believed he was the man to bring the glory days and the attendant commercial success back to Old Trafford.

Compare Ferguson’s three-and-a-half years without success at Manchester United with Roberto Mancini’s similar tenure at Manchester City, which has already resulted in one FA Cup title and a first league title for 34 years. Yet, on the heels of their upset loss to Wigan Athletic in the 2013 FA Cup Final on Saturday, the word on the ground is that the former Italian international is on the verge of being shown the door because of the constant pressure for immediate and continuous success based on the millions being pumped into the club by its Abu Dhabi owners.

Money may buy trophies, but it takes time, money and a suitable tyrant to cultivate a culture of success.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 13, 2013, 07:58:14 AM
Yawn**
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 13, 2013, 08:11:18 AM
he supports liverpool
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 13, 2013, 10:21:52 AM
In Moyes we Trust!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 13, 2013, 10:54:44 AM
Yawn**


Co-sign..... :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 19, 2013, 10:13:20 AM
DHW ah hope yuh catchin yuh boy in goal! He not good enough tuh clean DeGea's tugs! WTF was dat?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2013, 10:48:59 AM
DHW ah hope yuh catchin yuh boy in goal! He not good enough tuh clean DeGea's tugs! WTF was dat?

Stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 20, 2013, 02:49:11 PM
WELL DONE MANCHESTER UNITED U21'S!!!!!!!!! BARCLAYS  UNDER 21 ELITE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS!!!!!! 3-2 WIN OVER SPURS!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 20, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
WELL DONE MANCHESTER UNITED U21'S!!!!!!!!! BARCLAYS  UNDER 21 ELITE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS!!!!!! 3-2 WIN OVER SPURS!!!!!

Brilliant response being 2-0 down at half time..

We started the game too negative... Warren Joyce is a bit of a coward and went with 3 defensive mids and had our attacking mid Januzaj up top alone.. backfired completely and we were under pressure for the entire first half and Spurs deservedly lead 2-0.. I couldnt believe it.. a week ago we destroyed Liverpool 3-0 in the semi using a 4-2-3-1 with Januzaj in the hole.. for the final he changes the formation to 4-5-1 and gives Pearson a spot in the team.. his 2nd appearance all season because he just won the u18 academy player of the year... absolutely shocking decision to reward him a start in a division he has featured in once and the f**king final to boot.. we had nothing going for us with 3 holding mids ..

Finally Tom Lawrence came on and we went to 4-2-3-1 and almost immediately we made it 2-1 and from then on we were in complete control and only one winner from there

Januzaj is one hell of a player... his contribution to the winning goal was a piece of class.. absolute gem of a player.. watch this space
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Post by: triniairman on May 24, 2013, 09:01:56 PM
Mike Phelan and Eric Steele leave Manchester United coaching roles

Manchester United have confirmed the departures of assistant manager Mike Phelan and goalkeeping coach Eric Steele.

Phelan and Steele leave Old Trafford ahead of an expected shake-up in the United backroom staff, with David Moyes arriving from Everton to take over from long-serving manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

A former United player, Phelan returned to Old Trafford as a youth team coach in 1999, and was promoted to Ferguson's backroom team two years later, replacing Carlos Queiroz as assistant in 2008.

Steele was installed as goalkeeping coach in 2008 as replacement for Tony Coton, who was forced to retire due to injury.

Moyes, who officially takes over on July 1, said: "I would like to put on record the club's thanks for everything Mike and Eric have done.

"I will be looking to appoint my own members of coaching staff at some point in the future, however, I'd like to take this opportunity to give them both our best wishes for their future careers."

Executive Vice Chairman Ed Woodward said: "I'd like to thank Eric and Mick for the enormous contributions they have made to the success of Manchester United in their time here.

"Their professionalism, ability and diligence have been a credit to them. They are top class football men and everyone here wishes them well for long and successful careers in the game."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8732852/Mike-Phelan-and-Eric-Steele-leave-Manchester-United-coaching-roles
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on May 24, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Hate tuh see Eric Steele leave, he did great work with my boi DDG. Hope the new guy work as wellwith my boi. Doh f*ck with him!  I hope and we better keep Rene-who works well with non British players, who respect his knowledge and the way coaches and prepares them. And he brings a lot of non British football knowledge to the set up. I doubt Moyes has anybody like that at Everton. We don't need a bunch of British coaches who repeat the same shite week in and week out. Phile Neville needs tuh f*ck off and stay at Everton.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 24, 2013, 10:32:24 PM
gutted about Eric Steele.. someone made a good point about a clear out necessary... say they dont agree with something Moyes trying to introduce , you woludnt want them running back to Fergie saying this and that or undermining Moyes and losing the dressing room

I for one am f**king happy Phelan is gone.. since he took over the assistant role we have declined alot in terms of quality of play.. I understand why Eric moved on but would have liked him to stay due to the relationship between him and De Gea but at the end of the day De Gea is a big man making thousands every week and handling his stories now.. he good to go, largely down to himself and cheers to Eric for making him believe in his potential

I am sure Rene will stay as he does alot of stuff with the academy as well.. but If he does leave oh well, part of it..

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on June 06, 2013, 02:23:37 PM
http://nicholashuggins.com/MUTV-Don-t-Miss-a-Minute

this link is a few United Posters i made, i figure the united supporters might appreciate it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 14, 2013, 04:41:08 PM
This what we will be missing with no Rene and dem.


http://youtu.be/VwH-VVsONp0
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Post by: Mose on June 15, 2013, 07:29:09 AM
This what we will be missing with no Rene and dem.


http://youtu.be/VwH-VVsONp0

Thanks. Quite informative. One thing I noted was the contrast between the speed and intensity of those sessions versus what see from our national squads' (all of them) training videos.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on June 15, 2013, 08:40:14 AM
This what we will be missing with no Rene and dem.


http://youtu.be/VwH-VVsONp0

Thanks. Quite informative. One thing I noted was the contrast between the speed and intensity of those sessions versus what see from our national squads' (all of them) training videos.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could hire Rene tuh work with our national team and help build a foundation and way of playing? Apparently Rene might be heading back to Holland tuh work their youth set up. I hate when people in charge lack vision and ambition to improve the things they are in charge of. I understand the politics but it would be nice if just one day somebody think thing thru and work the plan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 01, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
Let me be the first to say, I don't like David Moyes as a Man.United coach. I hope he he does well and make me eat my words. As for those assistants, who the F@*k are they? They have never won anything, and it looks like a Everton back room minus Neville. They already tryna bring in Baines. I like Butner, and would not mind Baines, only if Evra really leaves for Monaco on his free will and not forced out for Baines.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on July 01, 2013, 08:31:33 AM
http://nicholashuggins.com/MUTV-Don-t-Miss-a-Minute

this link is a few United Posters i made, i figure the united supporters might appreciate it.
Now seeing this... these are really good. The other stuff is quite good as well. Keep it up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 01, 2013, 11:05:23 AM
Let me be the first to say, I don't like David Moyes as a Man.United coach. I hope he he does well and make me eat my words. As for those assistants, who the F@*k are they? They have never won anything, and it looks like a Everton back room minus Neville. They already tryna bring in Baines. I like Butner, and would not mind Baines, only if Evra really leaves for Monaco on his free will and not forced out for Baines.

I echo some of your sentiments regarding the coaches and regarding Evra. We have more pressing needs like in midfield and getting Rooney out. We can handle having Evra in the side, plus he is a leader in the room. I am not to hot about Moyes either, and he and his people better come real good. We are United not some mid level table side in England.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
Let me be the first to say, I don't like David Moyes as a Man.United coach. I hope he he does well and make me eat my words. As for those assistants, who the F@*k are they? They have never won anything, and it looks like a Everton back room minus Neville. They already tryna bring in Baines. I like Butner, and would not mind Baines, only if Evra really leaves for Monaco on his free will and not forced out for Baines.

I echo some of your sentiments regarding the coaches and regarding Evra. We have more pressing needs like in midfield and getting Rooney out. We can handle having Evra in the side, plus he is a leader in the room. I am not to hot about Moyes either, and he and his people better come real good. We are United not some mid level table side in England.
thats what I fear we become under him. I know I should not expect to win anything this season, but I can't accept that, considering there were other options for coaches to pick from, who have that winning mentality. I don't want to see any Everton players being brought in, cause we have the right players with a couple tweaking to be done, but it must be from players who will fit into Manchester United style of football.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on July 02, 2013, 06:30:39 AM
I dont think we should bring in any Everton players period. I dont know if they are United caliber. We should look to move forward and not backwards. How are we going to compete against the other teams who are bringing in quality. How we facing barca with Messi and Neymar in CL?

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on July 02, 2013, 07:11:59 AM
I dont think we should bring in any Everton players period. I dont know if they are United caliber. We should look to move forward and not backwards. How are we going to compete against the other teams who are bringing in quality. How we facing barca with Messi and Neymar in CL?
While I understand the sentiment, I believe that Baines, if we can get him, would not be a bad choice to bring in. However, I hope this summer doesn't become "the summer of Baines". We have more important holes to fill.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on July 02, 2013, 10:06:02 AM
I don't think Moyes will last more than 2 years...he has had a fairly decent sided but never sought ways that would take them to another level....he should have at least kept Phelan or Meulensteen so that there is some kind of continuity within the coaching structure in the end it won't be anything more than a transplanted Everton Way in United colors a recipe for mediocrity.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 04, 2013, 02:11:34 PM
Well he gave Giggs a player/coach role, and I'm reading that P.Neville is also on the coaching staff. That's the majority of Everton's coaching staff at Man.United. Can't say I'm happy about this P.Neville appointment. Hope this man really prove me wrong.

In all honesty, I think the team will do well, but not because of him, but because of the players that we have there. Maybe I'm to accustomed to Ferguson running the team and I'm just paranoid before the start if the season. Whatever it is, I hope the team does well from the get go with the new change in staff.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 04, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
Give the man a chance please
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on July 04, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Give the man a chance please

This is like the PP government it doomed to failure. As a manager it shows his inability to operate outside his comfort zone. Look at some of the coaches Fergie had around him like Muelensteen and Quieroz...they knew how to get the best out of players and how to win. They were the ones who helped create that never say die mentality...how many times have we seen United pull a goal out of the hat to win or tie a game...
how many times have we seen that at Everton?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 04, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
Results matter, i doh care if he carrying he mammy with him as long as we winning , until then i supporting him
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on July 04, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
Results matter, i doh care if he carrying he mammy with him as long as we winning , until then i supporting him

Winning is a habit. Reason being...yuh mental state needs to be tough to handle pressure in clutch "squeaky bum times".


I not expecting much for at least 2-3 seasons. If Moyes could impart the strength of character in the team like fergie did well then that would be nice. If he could keep his head in clutch situations well good. It unfair to the man to expect miracles. Especially with a totally new support staff.


It had to happen some day so just have to face it. The fans would be the biggest source of pressure as expected....so...just have to sit back and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 04, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
My concerns are about tactics, technical training, and setting up players to be successful in Europe. Who on that coaching staff has the experience to do that? They all use to coaching to win games in the EPL, or staying in the top 10. I am irritated about how middle class this set up starting tuh look, at least he could have brought in somebody without Everton ties, who could help elevate the tactical and technical piece. Steups, bunch of forkin old arse English men and Phil Neville.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 04, 2013, 08:56:32 PM
My concerns are about tactics, technical training, and setting up players to be successful in Europe. Who on that coaching staff has the experience to do that? They all use to coaching to win games in the EPL, or staying in the top 10. I am irritated about how middle class this set up starting tuh look, at least he could have brought in somebody without Everton ties, who could help elevate the tactical and technical piece. Steups, bunch of forkin old arse English men and Phil Neville.
One of them was his old coach, and the other was a coach of F@*king Derby County!! No wonder they were so mediocre. Evertonhas some good players and I'm sure they could compete for the title on any given day, but their style was not as good for the type of players they have. So I hope they come good with Man.United!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on July 05, 2013, 06:38:45 AM
Results matter, i doh care if he carrying he mammy with him as long as we winning , until then i supporting him

Winning is a habit. Reason being...yuh mental state needs to be tough to handle pressure in clutch "squeaky bum times".


I not expecting much for at least 2-3 seasons. If Moyes could impart the strength of character in the team like fergie did well then that would be nice. If he could keep his head in clutch situations well good. It unfair to the man to expect miracles. Especially with a totally new support staff.


It had to happen some day so just have to face it. The fans would be the biggest source of pressure as expected....so...just have to sit back and enjoy the ride.

I'm not expecting us to win the EPL next season. I would be happy with a top 5 finish. It may be a couple of seasons before we win the EPL again but he needs to have ManU challenging for that trophy after that. And as long as he can keep ManU in Europe I'll be happy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on July 05, 2013, 07:29:38 AM
Results matter, i doh care if he carrying he mammy with him as long as we winning , until then i supporting him

Winning is a habit. Reason being...yuh mental state needs to be tough to handle pressure in clutch "squeaky bum times".


I not expecting much for at least 2-3 seasons. If Moyes could impart the strength of character in the team like fergie did well then that would be nice. If he could keep his head in clutch situations well good. It unfair to the man to expect miracles. Especially with a totally new support staff.


It had to happen some day so just have to face it. The fans would be the biggest source of pressure as expected....so...just have to sit back and enjoy the ride.

I'm not expecting us to win the EPL next season. I would be happy with a top 5 finish. It may be a couple of seasons before we win the EPL again but he needs to have ManU challenging for that trophy after that. And as long as he can keep ManU in Europe I'll be happy.



Problem is...the person there with the most european experience is Giggs.

Buckle up people.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 05, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
David Moyes says Sir Alex Ferguson told him about the Manchester United job

David Moyes says he is thrilled to have become the new manager of Premier League champions Manchester United.

And, speaking at his first press conference as boss of the Old Trafford club, the Scot revealed how the job offer was delivered out of the blue by his predecessor, Sir Alex Ferguson.

"I'm incredibly privileged to be given the opportunity to be the manager of Manchester United," said Moyes. "And very grateful to Sir Alex and the board for making that happen.

"It was a really strange situation for me, I had no idea whatsoever.

"A lot of people think I knew something about it. I knew nothing at all about it until Sir Alex gave me a call, and asked me to come to his house.

"I was expecting him to say 'I'm going to take one of your players' or something else, I wasn't sure.

"We went in and the first thing he said to me was 'I'm retiring'. I said 'Yeah, when?' I mean, he was never going to retire was he? But he said 'next week'.

"His next words were 'and you're the next Manchester United manager'.
Blood drained from my face

"I didn't get a chance to say yes or no, I was told I was the next Manchester United manager by Sir Alex, for me that was enough.

"As you can imagine, the blood drained from my face. I was really shocked, more shocked that Sir Alex had chosen to retire. I was incredibly thrilled that I was going to be given the chance to manage Manchester United."

It has been suggested that Ferguson might stay away from United's first few matches for fear that his presence might add to the pressure on Moyes.

But the new boss said: "I hope Sir Alex Ferguson is sitting in the directors box. He's been so good. I've already called him two or three times for advice on a couple of matters.

"This is a new era but Sir Alex Ferguson will never go away, he'll always be here. You can see his statue, you can see his stand, and he's certainly someone I'll go to.

"Hopefully, the supporters will realise it was his time to finish and time for someone else."
We're always interested in the best players

Asked what counted as success in his first campaign, Moyes replied: "This club is about winning trophies and that's something I'm looking forward to doing."

Moyes was also asked about Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo, who has been linked with a possible return to United this summer.

The new boss would not speak directly about the Portuguese forward but said "this club is always interested in the best players".

The United boss says he may add to his squad before the club go on tour next week although "time is closing in a bit."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8809656/David-Moyes-says-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-told-him-about-the-Manchester-United-job

As a Manager, Fergie sure had a lot of power at Man.United, I mean, he picked the next coach... As we always said "In Fergie We Trust" so I guess I'll give Moyes a season  or two to prove me wrong about him and his staff.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 11, 2013, 09:03:51 AM
For a big club like United, I am not sure why they continue to have problems attracting big name talent who ply there trade (outside) of the Premier League......

Thiago set to shun United for Bayern

Manchester United are on the verge of missing out on summer target Thiago Alcantara with the Spain international expected to sign for Bayern Munich according to reports.

United have landed in Bangkok to begin their tour of East Asia and Australia against Singha All Stars in Bangkok on Saturday.

However, manager David Moyes and his men departed the airport with news breaking that Barcelona starlet Thiago, a reported sought after transfer of United’s, is set to join former coach Pep Guardiola at treble winners Bayern.

Spanish media outlet, Marca, are reporting the 22-year-old could be announced as a new Bayern player as soon as Thursday.

The news would be a blow for Moyes, who had hoped to use Thiago to bolster a midfield lacking the retired Paul Scholes and for whom the futures of Darren Fletcher and Anderson in particular are uncertain.

By ESPN staff
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on July 11, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
For a big club like United, I am not sure why they continue to have problems attracting big name talent who ply there trade (outside) of the Premier League......

Thiago set to shun United for Bayern

Manchester United are on the verge of missing out on summer target Thiago Alcantara with the Spain international expected to sign for Bayern Munich according to reports.

United have landed in Bangkok to begin their tour of East Asia and Australia against Singha All Stars in Bangkok on Saturday.

However, manager David Moyes and his men departed the airport with news breaking that Barcelona starlet Thiago, a reported sought after transfer of United’s, is set to join former coach Pep Guardiola at treble winners Bayern.

Spanish media outlet, Marca, are reporting the 22-year-old could be announced as a new Bayern player as soon as Thursday.

The news would be a blow for Moyes, who had hoped to use Thiago to bolster a midfield lacking the retired Paul Scholes and for whom the futures of Darren Fletcher and Anderson in particular are uncertain.

By ESPN staff


Dunno if its due to finance, negotiation....location or what...but it was done hard with Fergie there.


Worse yet now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on July 13, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Somebody should start a "Fire Moyes" thread.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 13, 2013, 01:03:18 PM
They lost 1-0 in their first tour match
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 13, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
I have no idea what the hell the problems is when it comes tuh buying some world class midfielders. This has been a problem for years! Whatever it is, but it has been frustrating the shite out of me, to the point where I can't remember the last time I was constipated.  :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 13, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
They lost 1-0 in their first tour match

Shhhhh; doh take the bait. ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on July 13, 2013, 01:08:33 PM
I have no idea what the hell the problems is when it comes tuh buying some world class midfielders. This has been a problem for years! Whatever it is, but it has been frustrating the shite out of me, to the point where I can't remember the last time I was constipated.  :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
They are either too expensive, go to a club that will over pay them, or they go play for Barcelona or Real Madrid.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on July 13, 2013, 01:09:38 PM
some positive things today

Good bit of players got 90 minutes..

Januzaj is something special..been talking up this kid for months..18 years old and one to watch..Moyes likes him alot, hopefully he will get playing time over the season

Zaha was very lively..beautiful effort that hit the post.. encouraging debut

We used more of a 4-2-3-1 vs a 4-4-2 which is very good to see.. 4-4-2 is outdated and we need to play more compact and give the front 4 freedom to play... alot of free role play today..fluid and interchanging


The conditions were horrible.. hot and sticky and being the 1st game the team itself didnt do much in terms of pressing off the ball...completely understandable

I would like to see off ball pressing installed under Moyes... for the last few years we've allowed teams to play..we need to correct that so one thing I'm keeping an eye on as well as using a modernized formation and way of playing

Welbeck really is shit in front of goal ... he has to improve or he will not have a long career at United.



Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 13, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
some positive things today

Good bit of players got 90 minutes..

Januzaj is something special..been talking up this kid for months..18 years old and one to watch..Moyes likes him alot, hopefully he will get playing time over the season

Zaha was very lively..beautiful effort that hit the post.. encouraging debut

We used more of a 4-2-3-1 vs a 4-4-2 which is very good to see.. 4-4-2 is outdated and we need to play more compact and give the front 4 freedom to play... alot of free role play today..fluid and interchanging


The conditions were horrible.. hot and sticky and being the 1st game the team itself didnt do much in terms of pressing off the ball...completely understandable

I would like to see off ball pressing installed under Moyes... for the last few years we've allowed teams to play..we need to correct that so one thing I'm keeping an eye on as well as using a modernized formation and way of playing

Welbeck really is shit in front of goal ... he has to improve or he will not have a long career at United.




Welbeck and Cleverly need tuh play against sides in the lower half of the league and below. Welbeck, I love his talent, but he need tuh get his head sorted and should not be depended on to lead the line or if we need a goal. He is a complimentary player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 15, 2013, 07:00:14 AM

Manchester United have made a bid of 30,000,000 euros (£25.9m) for Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas #mufc #bbcfootball
(https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/356748710304153601)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 15, 2013, 10:30:37 AM
Steups! I just want tuh read we sign a few players, tired of news about speculations and agent putting things out there. When we signed De Gea, Powell and Kagawa it was boom, bamm. No body even knew we were chasing dem. That is how we do our business; early and over; that is our we have been successful.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on July 15, 2013, 01:54:24 PM
steups....... faberglass boy???????? nah.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 15, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
steups....... faberglass boy???????? nah.

Plus he has a lot of miles on him. We better get another mid plus he!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 17, 2013, 01:26:16 PM
So wait.....Chelsea want Rooney and offering either Juan Mata or David Luiz plus 15 million dollars.
Stupesss...I know Giggsy11 would be  outside Rooney house bright and early tomorrow morning to drive him to Stamford Bridge for his physical....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 17, 2013, 01:40:11 PM
So wait.....Chelsea want Rooney and offering either Juan Mata or David Luiz plus 15 million dollars.
Stupesss...I know Giggsy11 would be  outside Rooney house bright and early tomorrow morning to drive him to Stamford Bridge for his physical....

Really?  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 17, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Dias like selling a used car pretending it new. Except the buyer actually know is shit and still want it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on July 17, 2013, 02:47:54 PM
Dias like selling a used car pretending it new. Except the buyer actually know is shit and still want it

u mean like tores?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 17, 2013, 02:56:29 PM
Dias like selling a used car pretending it new. Except the buyer actually know is shit and still want it

u mean like tores?

Hahaha correct
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on July 17, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
Mata to United would be a steal!!!!! But I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 20, 2013, 05:47:31 AM
Just finish watching United's friendly against an Australian All Star side. Some of the young players were impressive, skillful and composed on the ball. Lingard (2goals), Welbeck (2), Zaha (needs to work on his finishing, but showed good skills and will help defend on the wing), Januza (excellent 18yr old, nashy midfielder-skillful, neat passer and dribbler in the mold of Iniesta), Jones (strong and solid in the back.

We seem to be leaning toward, an up tempo style, which I welcome, and missed that from the days of Tevez, Ronaldo and Rooney. We just need to strengthened midfield and one more center back, and I believe we will be set for the year.

http://ct.moreover.com/ct?haid=a278afa854c2e2491374324270696e1f7306d114e4663&co=f000000011632s-134794494


Moyes actually looks good in his United tracksuit.  :D I believe we will be fine in the league; Europe, I will wait and see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 30, 2013, 02:42:39 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on July 30, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece

How is it desperate ?

They are looking to bring in the best quality... finally

Barca are adamant they do not want to sell... the same way we will not sell Rooney


One of Cesc or Modric would be a massive signing for the club... it is just bad timing with 2 new managers at Madrid and Barca who probably wouldnt sell anyone during their first year

I imagine we will get a CM in but go after Cesc next year when he fails to start again and be played out of position

So not all bad or desperate at all... It will get desperate If we go after some shithong as an alternative
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 30, 2013, 08:56:22 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece

How is it desperate ?

They are looking to bring in the best quality... finally

Barca are adamant they do not want to sell... the same way we will not sell Rooney


One of Cesc or Modric would be a massive signing for the club... it is just bad timing with 2 new managers at Madrid and Barca who probably wouldnt sell anyone during their first year

I imagine we will get a CM in but go after Cesc next year when he fails to start again and be played out of position

So not all bad or desperate at all... It will get desperate If we go after some shithong as an alternative

Desperate in that every top tier player that they want has either joined another club or are reluctant to want to play for United.
I agree that Cesc would be a great signing, but if he does not want to play at Old Trafford it is a moot point.

I mentioned this before, but for a major team like United, they seem to have difficulty signing top players.

But I do think that Mordric would be a much better option than Fabergas as his style of player is more suited to the ManU system.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on July 30, 2013, 09:10:51 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece

How is it desperate ?

They are looking to bring in the best quality... finally

Barca are adamant they do not want to sell... the same way we will not sell Rooney


One of Cesc or Modric would be a massive signing for the club... it is just bad timing with 2 new managers at Madrid and Barca who probably wouldnt sell anyone during their first year

I imagine we will get a CM in but go after Cesc next year when he fails to start again and be played out of position

So not all bad or desperate at all... It will get desperate If we go after some shithong as an alternative

Desperate in that every top tier player that they want has either joined another club or are reluctant to want to play for United.
I agree that Cesc would be a great signing, but if he does not want to play at Old Trafford it is a moot point.

I mentioned this before, but for a major team like United, they seem to have difficulty signing top players.

But I do think that Mordric would be a much better option than Fabergas as his style of player is more suited to the ManU system.


$$$$ Lucas Moura , Hazard and Sneijder didnt join due to better wages being offered where they went

Thiago claims we were never in for him, and Moyes according to sources close to the club didnt think he could adjust to English football and play in a deeper CM role

It is obvious we want a top bracket CM... Unfortunately the top players have new managers who want to see them for at least 1 season before selling them... we cannot control that

The talk is Felliani and a top CM... I think If we cannot get Cesc or Modric this summer we will buy Felliani and partner him with Carrick and go after 1 of Modric,Cesc or Gundogan next summer because Carrick will be 33 at that point

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 30, 2013, 10:02:46 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece

How is it desperate ?

They are looking to bring in the best quality... finally

Barca are adamant they do not want to sell... the same way we will not sell Rooney


One of Cesc or Modric would be a massive signing for the club... it is just bad timing with 2 new managers at Madrid and Barca who probably wouldnt sell anyone during their first year

I imagine we will get a CM in but go after Cesc next year when he fails to start again and be played out of position

So not all bad or desperate at all... It will get desperate If we go after some shithong as an alternative

Desperate in that every top tier player that they want has either joined another club or are reluctant to want to play for United.
I agree that Cesc would be a great signing, but if he does not want to play at Old Trafford it is a moot point.

I mentioned this before, but for a major team like United, they seem to have difficulty signing top players.

But I do think that Mordric would be a much better option than Fabergas as his style of player is more suited to the ManU system.


$$$$ Lucas Moura , Hazard and Sneijder didnt join due to better wages being offered where they went

Thiago claims we were never in for him, and Moyes according to sources close to the club didnt think he could adjust to English football and play in a deeper CM role

It is obvious we want a top bracket CM... Unfortunately the top players have new managers who want to see them for at least 1 season before selling them... we cannot control that

The talk is Felliani and a top CM... I think If we cannot get Cesc or Modric this summer we will buy Felliani and partner him with Carrick and go after 1 of Modric,Cesc or Gundogan next summer because Carrick will be 33 at that point



I think they should forget about Cesc and go all in for Modric. Cesc heart is in Barcelona and it will be real sour vibes to get him to go back to England.
As far as Gundogan, the way Dortmund rejecting people to keep their team intact, I won't be suprised if he resigns with them sometime in the near future.

Modric and Gustavo will be great additions because both players are not seeing consistent  first team action and will welcome the move to a champions league team.

As you said Carrick is not getting any younger and his replacement should be signed sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on July 30, 2013, 10:17:25 AM
Man-U looking like some desperadoes, I eh go be surprised to hear dem sign a player from the pro league or super league.

Moyes Turns to Modric as Man Utd's Search for a Star Widens

 Manchester United are planning a £25 million bid to sign Luka Modric from Real Madrid after coming to the reluctant realisation that they are unlikely to secure any of their primary transfer targets.

United began the summer with genuine aspirations of marking the start of the David Moyes era at Old Trafford with a stellar signing such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale or Cesc Fàbregas, but despite making several inquiries the club have been frustrated on all three fronts and forced to look elsewhere.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/manchesterunited/article3829086.ece

How is it desperate ?

They are looking to bring in the best quality... finally

Barca are adamant they do not want to sell... the same way we will not sell Rooney


One of Cesc or Modric would be a massive signing for the club... it is just bad timing with 2 new managers at Madrid and Barca who probably wouldnt sell anyone during their first year

I imagine we will get a CM in but go after Cesc next year when he fails to start again and be played out of position

So not all bad or desperate at all... It will get desperate If we go after some shithong as an alternative

Desperate in that every top tier player that they want has either joined another club or are reluctant to want to play for United.
I agree that Cesc would be a great signing, but if he does not want to play at Old Trafford it is a moot point.

I mentioned this before, but for a major team like United, they seem to have difficulty signing top players.

But I do think that Mordric would be a much better option than Fabergas as his style of player is more suited to the ManU system.


$$$$ Lucas Moura , Hazard and Sneijder didnt join due to better wages being offered where they wentThiago claims we were never in for him, and Moyes according to sources close to the club didnt think he could adjust to English football and play in a deeper CM role

It is obvious we want a top bracket CM... Unfortunately the top players have new managers who want to see them for at least 1 season before selling them... we cannot control that

The talk is Felliani and a top CM... I think If we cannot get Cesc or Modric this summer we will buy Felliani and partner him with Carrick and go after 1 of Modric,Cesc or Gundogan next summer because Carrick will be 33 at that point



Not to mentioned additional fees were agreed to be paid to the agents of those players, to ensure that the player signed for those clubs, in addition to the transfer fees. Sweeten the pot for the agent and he will ensure his player signs for your club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 30, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
sounds like sour grapes bullshit talk.  So if Anzi had pay Hazard agent enough he was going to Russia? :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on July 31, 2013, 08:16:09 AM
Maybe not Russia but if ManU had paid his agent enough he'd be playing for the red team all now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 03, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
Cleverly is such an unskilled laborer. Giggsy will always school dem.

http://www.manutd.com/Home/News%20And%20Features/United%20Uncovered/News/2013/Jul/Issue%2027/video%20keepy%20ups%20competition%20ryan%20giggs%20v%20michael%20keane.aspx

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 11, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
First trophy for Moyes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: giggsy11 on August 11, 2013, 08:57:59 AM
Valencia give back # 7 and returns to #25. Only very special players need to wear #7, glad Valencia came to his senses! 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 11, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
Valencia give back # 7 and returns to #25. Only very special players need to wear #7, glad Valencia came to his senses! 

  It doh matter WHAT number yuh wear, yuh playin' fuh a shit side, yuh playin' fuh a shit side!  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 11, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
Well Moyes yuh get yuh first piece of Silverware for the best team in England, lets see if you can get anymore this season. Congratulations on the victory today Man.United!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on August 29, 2013, 12:45:50 PM
Baines need to keep his ass in Everton. We don't need him. We got Evra and young Buttner, who is not a bad player. Go get a damn midfield player or two. Not Fellaini either!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on August 29, 2013, 01:03:21 PM
Baines need to keep his ass in Everton. We don't need him. We got Evra and young Buttner, who is not a bad player. Go get a damn midfield player or two. Not Fellaini either!!!

Doe mind Baines, he play a couple games and realize that he on a shyt squad. Not sure why Moyes want to him, if only to say he signed a new player after everyone else blank him. Evra is more that capable...
If they can't sign a big name midfielder now, I eh think it is in the best interest of the club to throw money at some average squad players. Wait til the January transfer window and try yuh luck again...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 30, 2013, 02:24:49 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/manutd
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 01, 2013, 06:26:17 PM
Nothing?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 01, 2013, 07:21:40 PM
Nothing?
Really?  :rotfl: :rotfl: take win pool, allure fight for that!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 01, 2013, 07:56:11 PM
I just checking on allyuh man.  Small Mag disappear on we, Giggsy taking up fire rage fuh Mango Chow, DHW posting everywhere but here.  Ah say lemmih make sure mih peoples alright man :)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 02, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Fellaini in

Coentrao may be coming on a season long loan deal too

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on September 02, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
Absolute shambles today. Woodward et al out of their depth.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 02, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
I just checking on allyuh man.  Small Mag disappear on we, Giggsy taking up fire rage fuh Mango Chow, DHW posting everywhere but here.  Ah say lemmih make sure mih peoples alright man :)

I know yuh ears been ringing since Sunday morning....because as soon as dat game dun..I start cussing you...cause ah know how yuh is...

btw....it takes a lot outta meh to say this..but allyuh team lookin nice....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 02, 2013, 07:52:47 PM
I know yuh ears been ringing since Sunday morning....because as soon as dat game dun..I start cussing you...cause ah know how yuh is...

btw....it takes a lot outta meh to say this..but allyuh team lookin nice....

I cyah come and express concern fuh mih fellow forumites now?  ;D

How yuh mean yuh know how I is?  Nah man I doh gloat and rub thing in man face (not that we've had much to gloat about of late anyways)... but ManU looking real ordinary to start the season.  Frankly, unless things improve significantly (and I doh think Fellaini will help much), I see allyuh finishing below Arsenal, City and possibly Chelsea and Liverpool as well.  If Spurs start to gel them too might pass allyuh.  But still plenty time for Moyes to get things right.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 02, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
Ordinary is not the word..I too figure we will come in 4th or 5th in the league..we may get out of the group stage in Champions league but that is it.. FA cup is hit or miss...

Moyes will never get it right. He has reached and surpassed his level of super incompetence. Everyone and dey nenneh know the problems with the team lay with center mids and central defenders. As much as I like Fellani..he is not the solution.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 02, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
Reading other forums, and man ecstatic about Fellaini...I really hope Moyes don't turn us into Everton, with these average ass players. Arsenal pick up a big buy in Mezut Ozil. Kaka went back Milan for FREE!!and we get an average player who shone at Everton last season!! Thank god we did not get Baines too... Looks like we have a loan deal for Contrao. We need to start playing Kagawa more. Giggs need to come on late, and not start.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 02, 2013, 10:24:50 PM
Reading other forums, and man ecstatic about Fellaini...I really hope Moyes don't turn us into Everton, with these average ass players. Arsenal pick up a big buy in Mezut Ozil. Kaka went back Milan for FREE!!and we get an average player who shone at Everton last season!! Thank god we did not get Baines too... Looks like we have a loan deal for Contrao. We need to start playing Kagawa more. Giggs need to come on late, and not start.

Allyuh should be so lucky as to get Baines... believe me, Baines is a big player, speedy, smart, clinical in the box, gets forward a ton and makes great crosses into the box.  I don't think he's necessarily an up grade over Evra though.  As for Kaka... a big part of that has to do with Milan's relationship with Madrid, so don't think United could have stepped in and have a chance to get him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 02, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
Reading other forums, and man ecstatic about Fellaini...I really hope Moyes don't turn us into Everton, with these average ass players. Arsenal pick up a big buy in Mezut Ozil. Kaka went back Milan for FREE!!and we get an average player who shone at Everton last season!! Thank god we did not get Baines too... Looks like we have a loan deal for Contrao. We need to start playing Kagawa more. Giggs need to come on late, and not start.

Allyuh should be so lucky as to get Baines... believe me, Baines is a big player, speedy, smart, clinical in the box, gets forward a ton and makes great crosses into the box.  I don't think he's necessarily an up grade over Evra though.  As for Kaka... a big part of that has to do with Milan's relationship with Madrid, so don't think United could have stepped in and have a chance to get him.
Baines is a good player, I just can't see they bringing him to bench at Man.United, cause he not in Evra class. I would have been pissed if he came and Evra started getting bench for him. I like Buttner, he just need more playing time.

As far as KaKa is concerned, I am willing to bet if we really wanted him, we could have gotten him. His age might have been the problem going in for him. It's a pity we cant buy a whole new team every season like a couple teams in the league, otherwise every player we wanted we would have gotten them. Money talks and Man.United walks. Still early days though. Don't get it twisted and write Man.United off. Season after season we have silenced the critics and haters, and this season could be no different. Chelsea parked the bus, and Liverpool fought for their lives for that win.

Its not how you start, its how you finish ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 03, 2013, 09:50:22 AM
Long live the empire! Long live Manchester United!

Haters gonna hate
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 03, 2013, 10:42:46 AM
This is the type of shit we buy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypPMMvc33FY
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 03, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
This is the type of shit we buy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypPMMvc33FY

No Clown, This is what we got
http://www.youtube.com/v/mZFuxC1bdUk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 03, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
This is the type of shit we buy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypPMMvc33FY

No Clown, This is what we got
http://www.youtube.com/v/mZFuxC1bdUk
OH YEAAA!!! I forgot he could play like any average player in midfield. Thanks for reminding me. Look, he was a star at Everton, if he could continue that run from last season, then I'll be the first to apologize.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 03, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
Stueps give people a chance Nah.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on September 03, 2013, 09:54:35 PM
Fellaini is a borse player, true mid-fielder/supplier....lately he's developed a knack for finishing as well but that's not really his game. This is a good buy for Man U!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 03, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
The problem with Moyes is that he lacks ideas and creativity...he had a decent team at Everton but never tried anything different and that may be due to assistant coaches who were just run of the mill guys and who probably  will never be  able to affect the team like Meulensteen or Queiroz.  With the constant call for a left back I wonder what Evra must be thinking as this will only bring discord into the team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 03, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
The problem with Moyes is that he lacks ideas and creativity...he had a decent team at Everton but never tried anything different and that may be due to assistant coaches who were just run of the mill guys and who probably  will never be  able to affect the team like Meulensteen or Queiroz.  With the constant call for a left back I wonder what Evra must be thinking as this will only bring discord into the team.

Completely Disagree.... If he lacked ideas and creativity why did he try to sign some of the best CM's in the world ? example Cesc... it is not his fault that our new Vice Chairman didnt know his ass from his elbow in the transfer market... nor was it his fault that majority of world class central mids were unavailable mainly due to alot of coaches changed at the top clubs and generally in your first year you want to keep the team together and give them a chance to impress before making a quick assumption

Secondly. never tried anything different at Everton ? look at their progression in style of play and upgrade of flair and easy on the eye players...Last season Everton were quite good with quick passing , 4-2-3-1 with majority of their width coming from attacking fullbacks in Baines and Coleman while that front 4 of Mirallas Piennar Fellaini supporting Jelavic with Osman and Gibson holding played some fantastic football


We are 3 games into the season and have many injuries and players now coming back into fitness (Nani, Kagawa etc) .. players that can make a huge difference

Too early to judge and stamp an opinion... people panicking as if we lost all 3 games.... relax

Trust the Gaffer...I guarantee we will play better football under Moyes and the new staff than we have done over the last few seasons...which have been quite poor despite winning a couple league titles...that was the brilliance of Fergie, to get the job done despite being the 3rd or 4th best playing team

Sit back and let the man get his time to get his style across
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 04, 2013, 10:43:58 AM
And Everton under Moyes won how many trophies? Qualified for home many champion leagues Europa leagues? How many FA cups? Let's see that's the same man who sold Jolene Lescott..by the way how many quality players did he sign with Everton????
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 04, 2013, 11:45:56 AM
And Everton under Moyes won how many trophies? Qualified for home many champion leagues Europa leagues? How many FA cups? Let's see that's the same man who sold Jolene Lescott..by the way how many quality players did he sign with Everton????

Moyes never had the kind of financial support the other Top Four managers had to attract the kind of players found at a Man U., Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.  It has only been in the past 3-4 years he's really been able to get the likes of a Fellaini or a Mirallas.  As for Lescott, there's not much a club can do to hold onto a player once he becomes unsettled.  Yes, Man City held firm with Tevez, United with Rooney and Liverpool with Suarez, but those are exceptional cases.  I don't know that Moyes will be successful for Manchester United or not, but on balance he was a very good manager for Everton and took that club as far as he could with the financial and talent resources at his disposal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 04, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
And Everton under Moyes won how many trophies? Qualified for home many champion leagues Europa leagues? How many FA cups? Let's see that's the same man who sold Jolene Lescott..by the way how many quality players did he sign with Everton????

Moyes never had the kind of financial support the other Top Four managers had to attract the kind of players found at a Man U., Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.  It has only been in the past 3-4 years he's really been able to get the likes of a Fellaini or a Mirallas.  As for Lescott, there's not much a club can do to hold onto a player once he becomes unsettled.  Yes, Man City held firm with Tevez, United with Rooney and Liverpool with Suarez, but those are exceptional cases.  I don't know that Moyes will be successful for Manchester United or not, but on balance he was a very good manager for Everton and took that club as far as he could with the financial and talent resources at his disposal.

Thanks Bakes for giving him a civil reply because his post was not worthy of such a classy reply


MEP go and support City then..... the good thing with Moyes coming in is majority of the bandwaggon shithongs will jump ship and we will see everyone true colours

Go rent boy, GO!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 14, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Diving-ass Ashley Young.  >:(

That wasn't no penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cantona007 on September 14, 2013, 07:28:45 AM
Janzaj looking good
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 14, 2013, 07:57:42 AM
Janzaj looking good
He performed well during pre-season. I expect to see big things from this player in the near future.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 14, 2013, 09:03:43 AM
Diving-ass Ashley Young.  >:(

That wasn't no penalty.

Whatever remaining respect I had for him it has completely evaporated after today.  The second dive wasn't as blatant, but he leaned right into the path of Dikacoi and fall down, drawing the foul... which actually took place outside the box.  Can't fault the ref for the deception or the decision... linesman blew the call when called upon.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on September 14, 2013, 07:29:50 PM
Diving-ass Ashley Young.  >:(

That wasn't no penalty.

Whatever remaining respect I had for him it has completely evaporated after today.  The second dive wasn't as blatant, but he leaned right into the path of Dikacoi and fall down, drawing the foul... which actually took place outside the box.  Can't fault the ref for the deception or the decision... linesman blew the call when called upon.
Yo, there is a Nike or Adidas ad-making video with Ashley Young and he seems personable and like a decent enough fellah...BUT, as ah Manu I really wish we get rid of him, as yes ah know he is ah Nashy and all dat but I really, really really can't stand him with his always-diving ass!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 28, 2013, 09:54:45 AM
Apparently Moyes time is the same as what's on the ref's watch.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 28, 2013, 09:55:15 AM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 28, 2013, 10:00:03 AM
Nice line up Moyes!! Lost at home to WBA. What a joke!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 28, 2013, 08:35:49 PM
Me eh have nuttin to say but de clock ticking on Moyes,,,,he eh go last long....look like come January we will be shopping for players and a manager
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on September 29, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
Fergie really had we spoil yes, funny i never thought  bout Manu as a team to fire a coach quick, quick, quick, but at the rate Moyes going i dunno nah. Also e every time i see Pogba play i does shake meh head :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 29, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
Fergie really had we spoil yes, funny i never thought  bout Manu as a team to fire a coach quick, quick, quick, but at the rate Moyes going i dunno nah. Also e every time i see Pogba play i does shake meh head :(

I want to think that it is a personality thing with Pogba and that Fergie just didn't like him....
or maybe Fergie didn't like players whose last name started with P.....Pique
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 29, 2013, 01:56:45 PM
Both Pogba and Pique wanted to leave. Pogba cuz his agent was agitating for ridiculous money.......Pique cuz he was home sick.


While I wasnt expecting much this season......I still cant accept this level of folly....by both players and coach.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on September 29, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
Moyes starting to make excuses"To win the Champions League, you need five or six world-class players," said Moyes,  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24321712)

So let's see Evra, Nani, van Persie,  Rooney, Valencia
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 29, 2013, 04:08:41 PM
Some ppl can make the case that the only world class ballers you mentioned are van Persie and Rooney. Others can make the case that the 5 are van Persie, van Persie, van Persie, van Persie and van Persie.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2013, 04:11:31 PM
Moyes starting to make excuses"To win the Champions League, you need five or six world-class players," said Moyes,  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24321712)

So let's see Evra, Nani, van Persie,  Rooney, Valencia

Neither Nani nor Valencia are world class.  Evra was at one point, not sure he's up there anymore, same for Rooney.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 29, 2013, 06:25:16 PM
Current World Class players : Rooney Vidic and RVP

Current World Class potential: Nani Kagawa Januzaj De Gea Rafael

Safe Efficient Players: Carrick Hernandez Evans....Rio and Evra are past their prime but dependable even though Rio's had a shocking start to the season

Good Squad Players: Jones Valencia Smalling Cleverley Zaha Welbeck

Out of depth: Buttner

Need to Leave : Fabio, Young, Anderson....Giggs to retire next summer



We need to have an overhaul next summer.....Rio will probably leave as he would be out of contract and 35, We need a quality Center Back to Partner Vidic and Evans will be 3rd choice...Jones can provide cover for CB and RB...Smalling is there too

Evra will leave...out of contract....hopefully get Baines in...most fans want Luke Shaw...too young and inexperienced for me...I would not mind buying both and let Shaw stay at Southampton for a year on loan and develop further while Baines and Buttner provide Left Back competition

So that's a quality CB and LB so far

Center Mid we have to add one QUALITY cm .. world class player... problem is the choices are limited...Cesc wont leave Barca now because he's featured more... Modric probably wont go anywhere either... Carrick and Fellaini will compete for the Holding Role..and new CM will start alongside one with Cleverley providing cover ....I'd break the bank for Gundogan of Dortmund...22 but possibly the best CM option out there.

We have to trim the wings...Valencia is too old school and causes us to play a rigid 4 across midfield which is outdated..I would love it If he's sold but would not mind keeping him as squad cover as he can provide RB cover and in some games when 4-4-2 can be used he could be useful

Young has to leave for his sake... Giggs has to retire too....  we are left with Nani Zaha Welbeck Januzaj Kagawa and Jesse Lingard who are all 4-2-3-1 wide men...less wingers more wide attacking mids...we have to get with the times...let the Wing Back's create the width and the Wide attacking mids come inside and contribute to the play....

Number 10 role would be for Rooney, Kagawa and Januzaj to fight and rotate for.

Strikers...RVP to lead the line, Hernandez ...Rooney can play up top alone too... promote Will Keane and bring Henriquez back from loan ..... Welbeck as emergency striker...he should be a wide man.. little goal threat but his qualities are his strength and pace , perfect for a wide attacking role.



3 quality additions...CB, LB and CM.... about 3-5 dead weight out and we'll have a good team

We have to remain patient and give Moyes his chance...he inherited a poor United...despite winning 2 EPL's in the last 3 seasons most United fans admit and recognize its one of our worst squads in a long time quality wise...alot of potential but time is running out on a few




Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on September 30, 2013, 07:40:49 AM
(http://www.techinasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/simpsons-haha.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 30, 2013, 07:49:51 AM
(http://www.techinasia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/simpsons-haha.jpg)

Yuh Bastard
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 30, 2013, 07:54:58 AM
Moyes 'rejected' Fergie's advice.

David Moyes rejected Sir Alex Ferguson's advice to retain his Manchester United backroom team, according to Eric Steele.

Former United goalkeeping coach Steele was axed by Moyes in the close season, along with assistant manager Mike Phelan and first-team coach Rene Meulensteen.

Moyes chose to bring Chris Woods, Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden with him from Everton, whilst also appointing former United and Toffees midfielder Phil Neville in his first full-time coaching role.

United's 2-1 home defeat by West Brom on Saturday means the club has now made its worst start to a league season for 24 years.

With the pressure already on Moyes right from the start of his Old Trafford reign, Steele has now revealed how the summers changes were handled.

"He spoke to me, Mick and Rene," Steele is quoted as telling fanzine United We Stand. "I told him I thought it was a brave decision.


"He (Moyes) listened to the manager's advice, but he wanted to be his own man."
Eric Steele
"He listened to the manager's advice, but he wanted to be his own man."

Steele arrived at United in 2008, having previously worked at Manchester City, and is credited with turning David De Gea into one of the league's best goalkeepers after a shaky start.

The 59-year-old says he respects Moyes' decision but is not convinced it was right for the club.

"I didn't want to leave. Why would I?" he added. "I knew that David was coming in and wondered who he'd bring.

"You had the United perspective - the manager saying, 'Keep what we've got, keep the continuity, work with them and they'll guide you through. You're taking on a massive machine here. You've gone from Marks and Spencer's to Harrods.'

"Then there's David's viewpoint, which I understand. I know him professionally. I know his work ethic, his hands-on approach.


Sunday Supplement panel on United
"I don't blame him for doing what he did. I've been in the game long enough to know how it is.

"But it's ironic, isn't it? You've just been part of a team that has had a great season and won the league. David De Gea's had his best season. Does it make sense that you're not retained to continue the good work? Sadly, that's out of my hands."

Winners remain

United find themselves in 12th spot in the Premier League table after six games, eight points off the pace set by leaders Arsenal.

Despite the upheaval at Old Trafford, Steele still thinks the personnel in Moyes' squad will start producing better results.

"There were massive changes - the manager, chief executive, Scholes retiring and the coaches," said Steele.

"But there are enough players in that dressing room to win when it really starts.

"My time was up, I'm proud of what I did at United and I have great memories."
Skysports.com

Damn Goat!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 30, 2013, 08:09:24 AM
... makes it a different club. Aside from the players, where's the institutional memory and retained wisdom? Easy to say iz de same players, but the culture of the team has shifted. That has to be an influential factor.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 30, 2013, 08:18:03 AM
 Why would Moyes keep any of them on ? they are Fergie's staff... Moyes is hands on and that would have limited Rene's and Phelan's role alot.....obviously Round and Jimmy know their roles around Moyes... Rene and Phelan strike me as 2 proper pricks and I reckon things could have gone wrong internally If they feel they are not being used sufficiently....

It is a common thing for the gaffer to bring his staff....the 3 axed men need to shut the f**k up and secure some jobs themselves or else they might as well become journos because all they are doing is media these days ..... If they were so magical like everyone is crying about then why are they still unemployed ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on September 30, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
They are Wayyy better assistant coaches than those pricks Moyes brought in, with their limited ideas and experience from lower leagues. Just to add another goat.. Neville of all people on that staff!! This club is not Everton, the sooner he realize that, the sooner we will be playing a better style of football.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on September 30, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
They are Wayyy better assistant coaches than those pricks Moyes brought in, with their limited ideas and experience from lower leagues. Just to add another goat.. Neville of all people on that staff!! This club is not Everton, the sooner he realize that, the sooner we will be playing a better style of football.

ok boss
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 30, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Biggest loss was Rene Meulensteen.  His methods were supposedly very popular with players like Van Persie, who spoke of him highly.  Thing is that Moyes is a whistle-in-mouth kind of manager, who runs his own sessions.  There would have been conflict and no room for Meulensteen.  Fergie stopped running sessions eons ago.  He just used to let his staff conduct it and observe from the sidelines.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on September 30, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
Moyes in charge now.  He has to run things the way he sees fit.

Last thing he need is Fergie loyalists questioning why things are done a certain way

All actions have consequences and Moyes will either be successful or not.  Only time will tell.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 30, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Moyes in charge now.  He has to run things the way he sees fit.

Last thing he need is Fergie loyalists questioning why things are done a certain way

All actions have consequences and Moyes will either be successful or not.  Only time will tell.



Agreed.  He did not want to be in the shadow of Sir Alex.  Problem is that right now, the team is experiencing withdrawal symptoms, after being under the helm of a manager for so long, and with much success. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 01, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
meanwhile - seems all is well at Everton
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 01, 2013, 12:15:34 PM
meanwhile - seems all is well at Everton
I wonder why...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 02, 2013, 02:02:58 PM
Fellaini keeps giving away the ball, he just don't look the part.  While writing this he gets booked ..Anderson over him anyday.

Edit: he's taken off in the 65"...replaced by Giggs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 02, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
f**k
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 02, 2013, 02:36:19 PM


If is any consolation, Man City losing to Bayern....  ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 02, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
We just played Brazil!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 05, 2013, 11:22:13 AM
We losing again at the moment to the bottom placed team who has not won a game for the season. We should be atleast 3 nil down. I'm sticking to my guns.. Moyes is not the man for this job. Waiting for him to make me eat my words.

Edit: we won 2-1. We had to fight hard for that. Moyes playing he have big balls and starting Adnan, luckily it payed off. This kid got some heart and never gave up.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 05, 2013, 12:32:22 PM
We losing again at the moment to the bottom placed team who has not won a game for the season. We should be atleast 3 nil down. I'm sticking to my guns.. Moyes is not the man for this job. Waiting for him to make me eat my words.

Moyes isn't responsible for Vidic miskicking the ball to get an assist on that Sunderland goal.  Plus, looks like he got the squad selection spot-on... Januzaj saves the day.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 05, 2013, 12:36:07 PM
We losing again at the moment to the bottom placed team who has not won a game for the season. We should be atleast 3 nil down. I'm sticking to my guns.. Moyes is not the man for this job. Waiting for him to make me eat my words.

Moyes isn't responsible for Vidic miskicking the ball to get an assist on that Sunderland goal.  Plus, looks like he got the squad selection spot-on... Januzaj saves the day.
We struggled against that team. The selection in my opinion was poor. We were lucky today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 19, 2013, 09:54:22 AM
The lack of Fergie Moyes time is troublesome.
Oh, and the dropping of points.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 19, 2013, 09:59:47 AM
Shit line up, shit tactics, shit player (Fellaini), and shitty ass coach.. Who disagree, I don't care, that's your opinion. You can give Moyes time, I say fire his ass, unfortunately that's not happening soon enough.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 20, 2013, 07:31:21 AM
Shit line up, shit tactics, shit player (Fellaini), and shitty ass coach.. Who disagree, I don't care, that's your opinion. You can give Moyes time, I say fire his ass, unfortunately that's not happening soon enough.

and i repeat :

I dont think we should bring in any Everton players period. I dont know if they are United caliber. We should look to move forward and not backwards. How are we going to compete against the other teams who are bringing in quality. How we facing barca with Messi and Neymar in CL?


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on October 22, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
Fergie's autobiography is out!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on October 22, 2013, 06:53:06 PM
a 6 minute tactical analysis of some of the weaknesses in Moyes' new system, with also touching on how it fared against Southampton's 4-2-3-1.

http://vimeo.com/77517041
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on October 24, 2013, 07:15:26 AM
we win a game YAY!

Kawaga was really good linking up with giggs and Rooney. He needs to take the opportunities presented to score though.

to be honest - i thought we would've lost though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on October 24, 2013, 08:11:18 AM
mid-table united :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
mid-table united :beermug:

 :yapping:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
I didn't even know about this, but this quote was taken from Ferguson's 2007 book, 'A Will To Win':

On alleged racial abuse


"A flare up on Saturday between [Peter] Schmeichel and [Ian] Wright has spilled into the newspapers. There's been a complaint to the FA that our goalkeeper racially abused the Arsenal man… The whole business of racial abuse seems to have got out of hand these days. A few years back, when Paul Ince was involved in an incident at Wembley once, I asked him why he got so upset when someone called him black. After all, he frequently referred to me as a Scottish so-and-so, so what was the difference? He told me the Scots aren't a race; naturally I had to remind him that we are in fact the master race!"

"Of course we should never forget dreadful events like the Holocaust, the nationalistic wars of Eastern Europe and the genocide in Africa, but I think we are past all that in this country. It doesn't help when people manufacture so-called racial incidents out of an everyday clash between two strong-minded players in the heat of a match. I hope no one at the FA is going to pander to this complaint, which is simply someone trying to make a mountain out of a molehill."


Read more at Talksport... (http://talksport.com/football/revealed-forgotten-alex-ferguson-book-you-must-read-13102365107#Y1oGVoXtxysrA03y.99)

Then from the latest book he's not only taking swipes at Liverpool ("they're about 8 players short of making a run at the title"), but also personal shots at Gerrard ("he's not a 'top top player' ") and Jordan Henderson ("he has a funny gait, running with a straight back, which will cause him fitness issues later on").   The potshots at the player are unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on October 25, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
a 6 minute tactical analysis of some of the weaknesses in Moyes' new system, with also touching on how it fared against Southampton's 4-2-3-1.

http://vimeo.com/77517041

Interesting video but if anything, it glaringly highlights the effect of the whole "Fergie Factor" which has nothing to do with Moyes or his tactics at all.

Looking at the video and the amount of bodies Southampton were willing to commit forward and press Man Utd high, it is almost like they had zero fear and really believed they could win that game.

I am sure had Fergie been there, Soton was going to Old Trafford with that kinda gung ho.. In fact how many times in the past have we seen teams go up one or two goals on Man United and retreat into a shell in the second half to try to hold a result and get punished for it.

Sides smelling blood with Man United right now.

Of course, i'm thoroughly enjoying it week after week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 26, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
I came to see if KJ would play.
I stayed to see Man U go behind... twice!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 26, 2013, 09:28:18 AM
somebody going to lose they wuk soon
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 26, 2013, 09:37:53 AM
that more like it! Never say die !

btw, where is KJ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on October 26, 2013, 09:40:50 AM
I think he still on the bench
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on October 26, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Players saved his ass.. And the defender in CL that scored the own goal for RS deserve a medal from Moyes. He got the team looking like shit... Up to now we can't field a starting 11 that is consistent.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on October 26, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
When he replaced Cleverly, Smalling and Nani with Januzaj, Chicharito and Valencia it was like the team momentum changed drastically
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 02, 2013, 11:00:16 AM
Second half was garbage, just don't know why he insist on playing Fellaini.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on November 02, 2013, 12:25:41 PM
Second half was garbage, just don't know why he insist on playing Fellaini.

ah boy 'airman yuh boy Moyes pick another shyt team today and dey barely beat ah bad team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on November 07, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/invBsd7MXPhhg.gif)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fyzoman on November 07, 2013, 04:00:28 PM
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/invBsd7MXPhhg.gif)

Jed as ah long time Manu man, I really wish Moyes get rid of frigging Ashley Young, I can honestly say that he is the MOST annoying footballer to me right now!!!

If I had watched dis game I woulda know five minutes before dis play dat he was going and dive, de man rell annoying!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 08, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
Funny I kinda liked Young and saw potential in him @ AV.  But he really is a little b!tch of ah footballer boi!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 08, 2013, 01:07:44 PM
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/invBsd7MXPhhg.gif)

Jed as ah long time Manu man, I really wish Moyes get rid of frigging Ashley Young, I can honestly say that he is the MOST annoying footballer to me right now!!!

If I had watched dis game I woulda know five minutes before dis play dat he was going and dive, de man rell annoying!!!!

Damn disgrace to the game.  Worse than Suarez, in terms of the theatrics.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 10, 2013, 12:07:15 PM
Fergie was sweating in the box like he playing yes  :rotfl:

Well done Team  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on November 10, 2013, 12:11:22 PM
Beautiful
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on November 10, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
We love United, we do!
We love United, we do!
We love United, we do!
Oh United we love you!

We love United, we do!
We love United, we do!
We love United, we do!
Oh United we love you!

COME ON UNITED!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 11, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
Did not see the game.. How was Moyes tactics ? How was Fellaini's performance. I'm assuming he played, seeing that Moyes loves playing him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on November 11, 2013, 02:33:12 PM
Did not see the game.. How was Moyes tactics ? How was Fellaini's performance. I'm assuming he played, seeing that Moyes loves playing him.

He come on late. Get a about 10 min I think
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on December 04, 2013, 04:05:28 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on December 04, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Finally Moyes Gets to see Everton Win at Old Trafford.

 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on December 04, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Salt
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 04, 2013, 04:56:09 PM
Hmmm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 04, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
mid-table united...........has a nice ring to it ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 04, 2013, 05:32:11 PM
Ah give up. Just fire him and done.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 04, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
Stinken waste ah time Fellaini!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 04, 2013, 11:45:07 PM
The problem with Moyes is that he lacks ideas and creativity...he had a decent team at Everton but never tried anything different and that may be due to assistant coaches who were just run of the mill guys and who probably  will never be  able to affect the team like Meulensteen or Queiroz.  With the constant call for a left back I wonder what Evra must be thinking as this will only bring discord into the team.

Completely Disagree.... If he lacked ideas and creativity why did he try to sign some of the best CM's in the world ? example Cesc... it is not his fault that our new Vice Chairman didnt know his ass from his elbow in the transfer market... nor was it his fault that majority of world class central mids were unavailable mainly due to alot of coaches changed at the top clubs and generally in your first year you want to keep the team together and give them a chance to impress before making a quick assumption

Secondly. never tried anything different at Everton ? look at their progression in style of play and upgrade of flair and easy on the eye players...Last season Everton were quite good with quick passing , 4-2-3-1 with majority of their width coming from attacking fullbacks in Baines and Coleman while that front 4 of Mirallas Piennar Fellaini supporting Jelavic with Osman and Gibson holding played some fantastic football


We are 3 games into the season and have many injuries and players now coming back into fitness (Nani, Kagawa etc) .. players that can make a huge difference

Too early to judge and stamp an opinion... people panicking as if we lost all 3 games.... relax

Trust the Gaffer...I guarantee we will play better football under Moyes and the new staff than we have done over the last few seasons...which have been quite poor despite winning a couple league titles...that was the brilliance of Fergie, to get the job done despite being the 3rd or 4th best playing team

Sit back and let the man get his time to get his style across

sigh ..and what style is this????
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 05, 2013, 07:13:34 AM
Clearly Everton got the better end of the change in mangers and players.  :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on December 07, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
 :o :P
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 07, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
keep it up...lookin good!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on December 07, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
Boy, ah feel for Moyes.  Hard worker, but is probably guilty of overhauling too fast, in an attempt to put his stamp on the team.  Rumor is that Van Persie submitted a transfer request earlier this week.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 07, 2013, 08:59:34 AM
look like no Champions League next season!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on December 07, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
I love this team, and I'll support them till the end, but right now, I want us to continue getting our ass buss.. Fire Moyes now, and get rid of the shit coaches he brought with him, and don't forget Fellaini too!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 07, 2013, 01:50:58 PM
The problem with Moyes is that he lacks ideas and creativity...he had a decent team at Everton but never tried anything different and that may be due to assistant coaches who were just run of the mill guys and who probably  will never be  able to affect the team like Meulensteen or Queiroz.  With the constant call for a left back I wonder what Evra must be thinking as this will only bring discord into the team.

Completely Disagree.... If he lacked ideas and creativity why did he try to sign some of the best CM's in the world ? example Cesc... it is not his fault that our new Vice Chairman didnt know his ass from his elbow in the transfer market... nor was it his fault that majority of world class central mids were unavailable mainly due to alot of coaches changed at the top clubs and generally in your first year you want to keep the team together and give them a chance to impress before making a quick assumption

Secondly. never tried anything different at Everton ? look at their progression in style of play and upgrade of flair and easy on the eye players...Last season Everton were quite good with quick passing , 4-2-3-1 with majority of their width coming from attacking fullbacks in Baines and Coleman while that front 4 of Mirallas Piennar Fellaini supporting Jelavic with Osman and Gibson holding played some fantastic football


We are 3 games into the season and have many injuries and players now coming back into fitness (Nani, Kagawa etc) .. players that can make a huge difference

Too early to judge and stamp an opinion... people panicking as if we lost all 3 games.... relax

Trust the Gaffer...I guarantee we will play better football under Moyes and the new staff than we have done over the last few seasons...which have been quite poor despite winning a couple league titles...that was the brilliance of Fergie, to get the job done despite being the 3rd or 4th best playing team

Sit back and let the man get his time to get his style across

sigh ..and what style is this????

this will be my official protest till Moyes is gone :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on December 07, 2013, 02:43:31 PM
The problem with Moyes is that he lacks ideas and creativity...he had a decent team at Everton but never tried anything different and that may be due to assistant coaches who were just run of the mill guys and who probably  will never be  able to affect the team like Meulensteen or Queiroz.  With the constant call for a left back I wonder what Evra must be thinking as this will only bring discord into the team.

Completely Disagree.... If he lacked ideas and creativity why did he try to sign some of the best CM's in the world ? example Cesc... it is not his fault that our new Vice Chairman didnt know his ass from his elbow in the transfer market... nor was it his fault that majority of world class central mids were unavailable mainly due to alot of coaches changed at the top clubs and generally in your first year you want to keep the team together and give them a chance to impress before making a quick assumption

Secondly. never tried anything different at Everton ? look at their progression in style of play and upgrade of flair and easy on the eye players...Last season Everton were quite good with quick passing , 4-2-3-1 with majority of their width coming from attacking fullbacks in Baines and Coleman while that front 4 of Mirallas Piennar Fellaini supporting Jelavic with Osman and Gibson holding played some fantastic football


We are 3 games into the season and have many injuries and players now coming back into fitness (Nani, Kagawa etc) .. players that can make a huge difference

Too early to judge and stamp an opinion... people panicking as if we lost all 3 games.... relax

Trust the Gaffer...I guarantee we will play better football under Moyes and the new staff than we have done over the last few seasons...which have been quite poor despite winning a couple league titles...that was the brilliance of Fergie, to get the job done despite being the 3rd or 4th best playing team

Sit back and let the man get his time to get his style across

sigh ..and what style is this????

this will be my official protest till Moyes is gone :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :pissedoff:
If you think that's the solution..... be careful what you wish for...  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 08, 2013, 10:03:40 AM
so any suggestions for a new manager?

what about Jürgen Klopp from dortman?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 08, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
Players need changing though
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 08, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
Would Sir Alex have tolerated even the slightest insubordination from his players? David Moyes needs to stop this nice guy act and lay down the law; Utd players have to keep issues with team selection in the dressing room.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1642750/man-united-defender-rio-ferdinand-raises-questions-david-moyes-methods?cc=5901
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 08, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
Would Sir Alex have tolerated even the slightest subordination from his players? David Moyes needs to stop this nice guy act and lay down the law; Utd players have to keep issues with team selection in the dressing room.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1642750/man-united-defender-rio-ferdinand-raises-questions-david-moyes-methods?cc=5901

Because they don't respect him. First signs of players going against.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on December 08, 2013, 12:24:23 PM
so any suggestions for a new manager?

what about Jürgen Klopp from dortman?

Getting rid of Moyes will not be a cheap and easy as people feel it will be. The man is about 6 months into a 6 year contract, so to fire him will be a big payout plus, the pay-off to any new manager's club and then the salary for that man. Any new coach is going to demand a big transfer budget and in January no clubs willingly going to part with big players in the middle of a season, plus they know ManU going to be desperate so $$$ going to have to run.

They have to pay the $$$ for players anyway, why go through the additional expense of replacing a manager who for all intents and purposes hasn't had a chance to really reshape the team to his liking. Aside from Fellaini, this is somebody else's team. If ManU really taking the long view of this, Moyes will get the chance to invest in January as a stop-gap, and will get the Summer to build the team he feels will play to his style. At that point if he continues to lose then he won't have any more excuses.

Off course this is all moot if he slip to the relegation zone, then it will be panic and alarm bells.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dinho on December 09, 2013, 05:28:57 AM
Between Rio Ferdinand's comments in the press, Fellaini texting away on the bench and this ludicrous situation with Kagawa, where has the discipline gone?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2520020/Manchester-Uniteds-Shinji-Kagawa-stomach-pumped-eating-much.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on December 09, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
so what hurts your pocket more getting rid of Moyes or the loss of revenue from not making the champions league.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 10, 2013, 02:44:09 AM
Right about now, Moyes just killing Kenyans. One jumped to his death after the loss to Newcastle.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on December 10, 2013, 08:54:01 AM
Right about now, Moyes just killing Kenyans. One jumped to his death after the loss to Newcastle.

ppl real stupid yes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 14, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
Good interview

Fergie -interviewed by Jon Snow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQE0h6g8SR8
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 15, 2013, 10:27:35 AM
No David Moyes demonization today? :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 01, 2014, 12:57:19 PM
Skunk face Moyes! No tactical skill... Garbage coach.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on January 01, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Ah was just wondering . . .to the ManU faithfulls

Has anybody done a comparison bet Wellbeck and Yorke?

What would it look like?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on January 01, 2014, 01:25:58 PM
Skunk face Moyes! No tactical skill... Garbage coach.

ManU did nothing in the game until Welbeck scored.  All of a sudden they come to life and dominate not only possession but the rest of the match.  What changes did Moyes make tactically to improve the performance of the team, as you see it?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 01, 2014, 03:53:50 PM
Rooney chase down ah man and grab he arm and drag him to the ground from behind without even trying to play the ball. Yellow card. Commentator " He shows so much tenacity.

Sorry Balotelli.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 05, 2014, 03:30:45 AM
http://www.fanatix.com/news/video-watch-man-utd-playmaker-shinji-kagawa-and-hiroshi-kiyotake-take-on-55-children-in-the-most-ridiculous-football-match-ever-but-who-won/173770/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on January 05, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
Moyes has to freakin go..what an idiot


Anybody could win at Old Trafford now
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 05, 2014, 12:28:51 PM
Moyes has to freakin go..what an idiot


Anybody could win at Old Trafford now

Gosh dem fox sports cameramen wicked. As the commentator made his final comments on debacle, there is a shot of a banner with the words, "The Chosen One" with Moyes' photo caption.

Fergie may have done many things right in his career, but I cannot help but begin to quesiton his choice of David Moyes as his successor.

The Theatre of Dreams has become the Theatre of Nightmares.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on January 05, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Licks fuh allyuh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on January 05, 2014, 12:54:35 PM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on January 05, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.

I don't think Fergie wants to see his success not replicated.  I think his choice of Moyes as his successor was more to do with work ethic.  Everyone know Moyes is a meticulous coach who probably over prepares ( I recently read an article about how he did transfer biz at Everton, and it was really an intensive, highly databased kind of process that started with 1000s of prospects).  That was how Fergie was when he took over at Old Trafford.  Problem is that Moyes has to realize that he is no longer at Everton, and thus needs to become more of an attacking minded coach.  He is still playing not to lose, instead of going all out for the win.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: dotless007 on January 06, 2014, 08:08:54 AM
Ah was just wondering . . .to the ManU faithfulls

Has anybody done a comparison bet Wellbeck and Yorke?

What would it look like?

Not very good for welbeck
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on January 06, 2014, 10:06:15 AM
Ah yes...doom and gloom in this thread.

It good...take lix  :rotfl:

Yes I am a Man U hater and enjoying every moment of this.

Carry on smartly.


Moyes to di world!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 06, 2014, 10:13:30 AM
Like Moyes wake yuh up Touches ;D

Fergie not around tuh influence d refs....he still have he pony Howard Webb though
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 06, 2014, 10:27:47 AM
doh study it..... we will come good once again.

I feeling sorry for Moyes... but he has to go.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on January 06, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.

I don't think Fergie wants to see his success not replicated.  I think his choice of Moyes as his successor was more to do with work ethic.  Everyone know Moyes is a meticulous coach who probably over prepares ( I recently read an article about how he did transfer biz at Everton, and it was really an intensive, highly databased kind of process that started with 1000s of prospects).  That was how Fergie was when he took over at Old Trafford.  Problem is that Moyes has to realize that he is no longer at Everton, and thus needs to become more of an attacking minded coach.  He is still playing not to lose, instead of going all out for the win.

If I give you a dollar you could change it for me ...if I give you 25 cents you could change it  even 10 cents you could still change it...but if I give you 1 cent..you can't change it and that is what Moyes is .....a damn cent.....he is not going to change he can be as meticulous as he wants to be but all that amounts to is naught or in his case a cent if he can't transfer his tactical ideas into the game. As I've said before United is now a second rate Everton. What top class player will want to go play for United now???
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 06, 2014, 12:15:11 PM
Don't worry guys Fellsini will come back and save us!! Best buy by Moyes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 06, 2014, 01:59:47 PM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.

I don't think Fergie wants to see his success not replicated.  I think his choice of Moyes as his successor was more to do with work ethic.  Everyone know Moyes is a meticulous coach who probably over prepares ( I recently read an article about how he did transfer biz at Everton, and it was really an intensive, highly databased kind of process that started with 1000s of prospects).  That was how Fergie was when he took over at Old Trafford.  Problem is that Moyes has to realize that he is no longer at Everton, and thus needs to become more of an attacking minded coach.  He is still playing not to lose, instead of going all out for the win.

Agree with this in particular. Nonetheless, as ah state that ... one wonders what a Utd. under Mourinho would look like.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 06, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.

I don't think Fergie wants to see his success not replicated.  I think his choice of Moyes as his successor was more to do with work ethic.  Everyone know Moyes is a meticulous coach who probably over prepares ( I recently read an article about how he did transfer biz at Everton, and it was really an intensive, highly databased kind of process that started with 1000s of prospects).  That was how Fergie was when he took over at Old Trafford.  Problem is that Moyes has to realize that he is no longer at Everton, and thus needs to become more of an attacking minded coach.  He is still playing not to lose, instead of going all out for the win.

Agree with this in particular. Nonetheless, as ah state that ... one wonders what a Utd. under Mourinho would look like.

Stop fantasizin sucka
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 06, 2014, 03:33:55 PM
Fergie's true nature is being revealed now. All he wanted to do was preserve his legacy and brought in a man who would ensure that the team doesn't have any success. Moyes is bereft of ideas and has turned United into his Everton a team that could almost be good.

I don't think Fergie wants to see his success not replicated.  I think his choice of Moyes as his successor was more to do with work ethic.  Everyone know Moyes is a meticulous coach who probably over prepares ( I recently read an article about how he did transfer biz at Everton, and it was really an intensive, highly databased kind of process that started with 1000s of prospects).  That was how Fergie was when he took over at Old Trafford.  Problem is that Moyes has to realize that he is no longer at Everton, and thus needs to become more of an attacking minded coach.  He is still playing not to lose, instead of going all out for the win.

Agree with this in particular. Nonetheless, as ah state that ... one wonders what a Utd. under Mourinho would look like.

Stop fantasizin sucka

Doh confuse me for a Red Devil. Also, don't confuse 'wonder' with 'fantasy'. Any marginally attentive football observer knows the answer to the statement.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 07, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
lol.......are there no Man United fans on the board anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on January 07, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
It's a sad day when City fans know more about support United than our own plastics. This is a must read!!

By a Man City fan

This is one of those times where the modern media really fails us as football fans in explaining exactly what has happened at Manchester United. I often complain that they focus too much on irrelevance and not enough on the actual business of football behind the scenes and this is an example of where it could have helped.

I'm not sure what anybody else was expecting here but Man United are right about where I thought they would be. I think they'll finish higher than this but their form is somewhat predictable.
United as a Club has completely fell apart and it is the job of David Moyes to rebuild it. It has fell apart because the Club in the modern era was built entirely to Ferguson's exacting standards and methods. Every single person in every department of the Club knew what they were doing every day and what the ultimate point was.
Clubs falling apart after the movement of a Czar isn't new. United fell apart after Busby left, Liverpool got worse the more contrived the boot room system became. It's natural.

I think United fans should remember the words of Ferguson before he left. He's a proper football man, as is David Moyes, and they both know the scale of the task Moyes has undertaken and the time it will take to bear fruit. United can either studiously water their crops over time to create a vast sustainable empire once again that will provide riches for generations or they can dump nuclear waste on their land and grow tomacco.

For me, the real test of the Glazers as owners starts today. You can talk about money and whatever but to most people it's an irrelevance, United have been ultra successful and the manager has been given what he wanted. So far so good for the Glazers. The test starts right now because we discover whether they are the seasoned and patient businessmen that the Edwards family were or just another kneejerk bunch of twats who are sacking managers on ridiculous timescales.

I think Moyes has certainly made mistakes, or rather a single mistake. I think he tried to transition too quickly from Ferguson's staff to his own staff in the first team which created unneccesary pressure on himself. This can be forgiven however as I see what he was trying to accomplish. He knew that this would be a difficult period of transition and he wants to snap it as quickly as possible rather than do it piece by piece. Managers often do lack patience in transition, AVB had the same problem at Chelsea. Funnily, Ferguson did the same mistake when he first joined too.

I see people who have called Moyes unambitious because he has said that United played well when they didn't. This is a man who had a job for life in a stable Premier League team where he was beloved and he decided to pack that in and move to the most famous Club in the world and succeed the best ever manager in the game, to take on a rebuilding job the like of which has never been done in the modern era of football. Unambitious? Do me a favour.

You see, Manchester United was a club built in Ferguson's own image and everybody took their lead from him. He was an imposing figure yet if you meet him he had this working class charm that made you want to fight for him. David Moyes is a similar figure but doesn't yet covet the same respect and loyalty from everybody at Manchester United. There's no possible way that he could, that anybody could, most of the people at United were directly employed by Ferguson or employed whilst he was the manager. In time, Moyes will have the same respect bestowed on him, that's all that it needs at the minute, just some time for him to get his feet under the table.

Some fans believe that David Moyes isn't the man for United. I challenge the idea that they even understand what United is as a Club. David Moyes is pretty much the prototypical Manchester United manager, if you had to walk away and design a man who would manage them, it is him. He's fierce, he's tactically well versed, he has a superhuman work ethic, he believes in youth promotion, he plays with wingers, he inspires loyalty and fight from everybody around him. Those who don't see this have never been to Everton away under his tenure there. Moyes managed to turn that place into a lion's den in how ferocious the atmosphere was and how the team played, and make no mistake this developed under him and will wane without him, managers have a major effect on atmospheres as any United fan will tell you (or City fan for that matter), he will do the same to Old Trafford given time.
So I suppose the problem here is that fans have underestimated the mammoth of a task that Moyes has to accomplish and pundits have over-simplified it. It will take Moyes several years to get United built in his own image and it will be better off for it rather than start some roundabout of managerial changes. And I warn United fans, I'm a fan of a Club that has had probably 30 managers in the past 30 years. Once you start down this path of swapping in and out managers, you can never come back from it.

One last thing to note. I find it interesting how many people when this was announced said things like "Moyes will need a transition time" but have now decided that he should be gone in January. Transition time is a term used to denote the time it takes to sweep away the mentality of the old regime and bring in your own mentality. Essentially, how long it takes to forget the old manager and buy into the thoughts of the new even if it conflicts with what the old manager would say. For a manager who casts the shadow of Ferguson, this will take 3 or 4 years, not 3 or 4 months. Bobby Charlton, Alex Ferguson and others at United understand this so appointed a manager who can rebuild United and have the wide shoulders it requires to bear the load of expectation from the fans and media. They think they found their right man in David Moyes and all piss taking aside, so do I. I hope that they both fight his corner in the boardroom and I'm sure they will. These people understand United as a Club, understand what makes it successful and understand what makes it special.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 07, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
At least we consistent in losing now. If we were up and down, I would of had some hope. Manchester United till I die. I will support this team, but will not support Moyes. Before he was even hired I said I did not want him as the coach, then he got hired, and I still said I did not want him as the coach. People was like "give him a chance" "Fergie did not win anything in the first few years when he took over" and a bunch a bullshit excuse for Moyes. This is a new generation, the sport is not as slow as it was when Fergie took over all those years ago. Moyes should have been able to come in and take the same players and perform relatively well with them if he was really a good manager. He had a decent squad in Everton and could not get into the top 5 in all his time there. He has broken every record on the negative side since he took over. I'm not blaming the players, caus eits the coach who picks the team/tactics. These players can walk onto any team in the world easy. Moyes is just garbage complimented with the shit that is his assistants. I also said I did not want hem, especially Neville. The other guys coached in lower leagues and got their break through Moyes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 07, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
Hmmmmm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 07, 2014, 09:08:15 PM
Bring Muelensteen back to work with Jumanji, and to get Young back on track. Hey he may even get Nani going.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on January 07, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
These certainly are dog days for us even  Soonderland wid Wes Brown beatin we.....When will David "Wilf McGuinness" Moyes get a clue hopefully Fergie will come back and Salvage the season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 08, 2014, 06:39:20 AM
It's a sad day when City fans know more about support United than our own plastics. This is a must read!!

By a Man City fan

This is one of those times where the modern media really fails us as football fans in explaining exactly what has happened at Manchester United. I often complain that they focus too much on irrelevance and not enough on the actual business of football behind the scenes and this is an example of where it could have helped.

I'm not sure what anybody else was expecting here but Man United are right about where I thought they would be. I think they'll finish higher than this but their form is somewhat predictable.
United as a Club has completely fell apart and it is the job of David Moyes to rebuild it. It has fell apart because the Club in the modern era was built entirely to Ferguson's exacting standards and methods. Every single person in every department of the Club knew what they were doing every day and what the ultimate point was.
Clubs falling apart after the movement of a Czar isn't new. United fell apart after Busby left, Liverpool got worse the more contrived the boot room system became. It's natural.

I think United fans should remember the words of Ferguson before he left. He's a proper football man, as is David Moyes, and they both know the scale of the task Moyes has undertaken and the time it will take to bear fruit. United can either studiously water their crops over time to create a vast sustainable empire once again that will provide riches for generations or they can dump nuclear waste on their land and grow tomacco.

For me, the real test of the Glazers as owners starts today. You can talk about money and whatever but to most people it's an irrelevance, United have been ultra successful and the manager has been given what he wanted. So far so good for the Glazers. The test starts right now because we discover whether they are the seasoned and patient businessmen that the Edwards family were or just another kneejerk bunch of twats who are sacking managers on ridiculous timescales.

I think Moyes has certainly made mistakes, or rather a single mistake. I think he tried to transition too quickly from Ferguson's staff to his own staff in the first team which created unneccesary pressure on himself. This can be forgiven however as I see what he was trying to accomplish. He knew that this would be a difficult period of transition and he wants to snap it as quickly as possible rather than do it piece by piece. Managers often do lack patience in transition, AVB had the same problem at Chelsea. Funnily, Ferguson did the same mistake when he first joined too.

I see people who have called Moyes unambitious because he has said that United played well when they didn't. This is a man who had a job for life in a stable Premier League team where he was beloved and he decided to pack that in and move to the most famous Club in the world and succeed the best ever manager in the game, to take on a rebuilding job the like of which has never been done in the modern era of football. Unambitious? Do me a favour.

You see, Manchester United was a club built in Ferguson's own image and everybody took their lead from him. He was an imposing figure yet if you meet him he had this working class charm that made you want to fight for him. David Moyes is a similar figure but doesn't yet covet the same respect and loyalty from everybody at Manchester United. There's no possible way that he could, that anybody could, most of the people at United were directly employed by Ferguson or employed whilst he was the manager. In time, Moyes will have the same respect bestowed on him, that's all that it needs at the minute, just some time for him to get his feet under the table.

Some fans believe that David Moyes isn't the man for United. I challenge the idea that they even understand what United is as a Club. David Moyes is pretty much the prototypical Manchester United manager, if you had to walk away and design a man who would manage them, it is him. He's fierce, he's tactically well versed, he has a superhuman work ethic, he believes in youth promotion, he plays with wingers, he inspires loyalty and fight from everybody around him. Those who don't see this have never been to Everton away under his tenure there. Moyes managed to turn that place into a lion's den in how ferocious the atmosphere was and how the team played, and make no mistake this developed under him and will wane without him, managers have a major effect on atmospheres as any United fan will tell you (or City fan for that matter), he will do the same to Old Trafford given time.
So I suppose the problem here is that fans have underestimated the mammoth of a task that Moyes has to accomplish and pundits have over-simplified it. It will take Moyes several years to get United built in his own image and it will be better off for it rather than start some roundabout of managerial changes. And I warn United fans, I'm a fan of a Club that has had probably 30 managers in the past 30 years. Once you start down this path of swapping in and out managers, you can never come back from it.

One last thing to note. I find it interesting how many people when this was announced said things like "Moyes will need a transition time" but have now decided that he should be gone in January. Transition time is a term used to denote the time it takes to sweep away the mentality of the old regime and bring in your own mentality. Essentially, how long it takes to forget the old manager and buy into the thoughts of the new even if it conflicts with what the old manager would say. For a manager who casts the shadow of Ferguson, this will take 3 or 4 years, not 3 or 4 months. Bobby Charlton, Alex Ferguson and others at United understand this so appointed a manager who can rebuild United and have the wide shoulders it requires to bear the load of expectation from the fans and media. They think they found their right man in David Moyes and all piss taking aside, so do I. I hope that they both fight his corner in the boardroom and I'm sure they will. These people understand United as a Club, understand what makes it successful and understand what makes it special.

All dat info all well and good but when Ferguson came to Utd he was already accomplished, what has Moyes done/won before arriving at old Trafford?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2014, 12:48:17 PM
All dat info all well and good but when Ferguson came to Utd he was already accomplished, what has Moyes done/won before arriving at old Trafford?

True he was well established, but Fergie had a rocky start when he took over United. This situation reminds me of the "great" Olimpic ideal. It is not about winning but giving your all. Some crap like that. In the real world, winning is everything. Moyes team has to win. Or else he will have to walk the plank. If the management gives 2 years, then he is Merlin the magician.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 09, 2014, 06:40:16 AM
All dat info all well and good but when Ferguson came to Utd he was already accomplished, what has Moyes done/won before arriving at old Trafford?

True he was well established, but Fergie had a rocky start when he took over United. This situation reminds me of the "great" Olimpic ideal. It is not about winning but giving your all. Some crap like that. In the real world, winning is everything. Moyes team has to win. Or else he will have to walk the plank. If the management gives 2 years, then he is Merlin the magician.

Exactly, Fergie had a rocky start but he still had his achievements to fall back on and use as a direction where and how he wanted the team to reach and play. Moyes has nothing except mid table...which, to be fair, he has already achieved in a short space of time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on January 11, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Robbie Savage says 12 players should go: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25665649
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 11, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
We win!  :heehee:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on January 11, 2014, 04:42:45 PM
All dat info all well and good but when Ferguson came to Utd he was already accomplished, what has Moyes done/won before arriving at old Trafford?

True he was well established, but Fergie had a rocky start when he took over United. This situation reminds me of the "great" Olimpic ideal. It is not about winning but giving your all. Some crap like that. In the real world, winning is everything. Moyes team has to win. Or else he will have to walk the plank. If the management gives 2 years, then he is Merlin the magician.

Exactly, Fergie had a rocky start but he still had his achievements to fall back on and use as a direction where and how he wanted the team to reach and play. Moyes has nothing except mid table...which, to be fair, he has already achieved in a short space of time.

If I am not mistaaken, most of Fergie's achievement was in Scotland. He still had to prove himself in the land of the auld enemy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
Robbie Savage says 12 players should go: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25665649

Anderson and Valencia joined the squad 2 years apart ... yet both have played roughly the same number of games.

He (Anderson) has lasted longer at Utd than one would have thought, but he hasn't done his international career any favours. He's still young. Fuh some reason doh, ah feel a move will turn him into Adu.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 12, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
All dat info all well and good but when Ferguson came to Utd he was already accomplished, what has Moyes done/won before arriving at old Trafford?

True he was well established, but Fergie had a rocky start when he took over United. This situation reminds me of the "great" Olimpic ideal. It is not about winning but giving your all. Some crap like that. In the real world, winning is everything. Moyes team has to win. Or else he will have to walk the plank. If the management gives 2 years, then he is Merlin the magician.

Exactly, Fergie had a rocky start but he still had his achievements to fall back on and use as a direction where and how he wanted the team to reach and play. Moyes has nothing except mid table...which, to be fair, he has already achieved in a short space of time.

If I am not mistaaken, most of Fergie's achievement was in Scotland. He still had to prove himself in the land of the auld enemy.


Aberdeen had started the 1979–80 season poorly but their form improved dramatically in the new year and they won the Scottish league that season with a 5–0 win on the final day. It was the first time in fifteen years that the league had not been won by either Rangers or Celtic. Ferguson now felt that he had the respect of his players, later saying "That was the achievement which united us. I finally had the players believing in me".[35]
He was still a strict disciplinarian, though, and his players nicknamed him Furious Fergie. He fined one of his players, John Hewitt, for overtaking him on a public road,[36] and kicked a tea urn at the players at half time after a poor first half.[37] He was dissatisfied with the atmosphere at Aberdeen matches, and deliberately created a 'siege mentality' by accusing the Scottish media of being biased towards the Glasgow clubs, to motivate the team.[38] The team continued their success with a Scottish Cup win in 1982. Ferguson was offered the manager's job at Wolves but turned it down as he felt that Wolves were in trouble[39] and "[his] ambitions at Aberdeen were not even half fulfilled".[40]

European success
Ferguson led Aberdeen to even greater success the following season (1982–83). They had qualified for the European Cup Winners' Cup as a result of winning the Scottish Cup the previous season, and impressively knocked out Bayern Munich, who had beaten Tottenham Hotspur 4–1 in the previous round. According to Willie Miller, this gave them the confidence to believe that they could go on to win the competition,[41] which they did, with a 2–1 victory over Real Madrid in the final on 11 May 1983. Aberdeen became only the third Scottish team to win a European trophy and Ferguson now felt that "he'd done something worthwhile with his life".[42] This was followed up with victory in the European Super Cup in December 1983, when Hamburg, the reigning European Cup champions were beaten 2–0 over two legs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 15, 2014, 10:49:46 PM
Anybody remember this vvvvvvv

Quote
Alex Ferguson doesn't get potential signings wrong very often, but the Glaswegian dropped an absolute clanger by signing Portuguese striker Bebe in 2010 without ever having seen him play. Ferguson was persuaded by his "advisers" to part with £7.4 million for Bebe and it has haunted him ever since. Bebe was so out of his depth when playing that he blamed Ferguson's strong accent for him not understanding instructions, but in reality it was simply because, after his performance in the Wolves game, he was about as welcome as a letter from the IRS.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on January 19, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on January 19, 2014, 11:40:38 AM
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yuh dead yet :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 02:39:37 PM
Janazuj has a long way to go if he is to be the next big layer at Man United. He's young and hopefully Moyes staff can work with him to develop quickly.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
Mata to Man United for 37 Million pounds with a medical tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Mata can't come too soon.

I'm watching Man U hang on for dear life against a bottom-of-the-league Sunderland side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 03:37:01 PM
Altidore come on and pulling stones.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
Mata can't come too soon.

I'm watching Man U hang on for dear life against a bottom-of-the-league Sunderland side.

Lee Mason had 2 Howard Webb moment in critical situations.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
Mata can't come too soon.

I'm watching Man U hang on for dear life against a bottom-of-the-league Sunderland side.

Lee Mason had 2 Howard Webb moment in critical situations.

Moyes putting together his own team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
I would like to use a stronger term, but I'll just say that Altidore is "out of form"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 04:11:12 PM
Sunderland!!!!!!!!

De Gea has a flashback to his early days at United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
wow.........     :o :o
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
WTH
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 04:12:59 PM
You just know that chicharito goal was coming!

Sunderland drop too deep. Play right into that.

Whoever win they getting bull by City in the final.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 04:18:36 PM
I calling it first.
Altidore miss.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 04:22:21 PM
You just know that chicharito goal was coming!

Sunderland drop too deep. Play right into that.

Whoever win they getting bull by City in the final.

Daiz what ah saying
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
The English and PKs.....lawd fadder

The EPL is the best league in the world. Technically deficient and tactically simple.....luv it
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on January 22, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
The English and PKs.....lawd fadder

The EPL is the best league in the world. Technically deficient and tactically simple.....luv it

Those were some of the worst I've seen in a while.

Based on the game, Sunderland deserve the opportunity to get bull in the final.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on January 22, 2014, 04:29:05 PM
I can't say anything because they put we out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 22, 2014, 05:41:22 PM
Mata to Man United for 37 Million pounds with a medical tomorrow.

Expedient move spurred by a place on the squad for Brazil. Ordinarily, he might have had concerns about this move. Moyes isn't attracting big players.

A few days ago, Mourinho spoke "frankly" about Mata's exclusion from the squad and framed it as a tactical reality that he was seeking to resolve with the player. This deal places Mou's comments in context.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2014, 05:55:52 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on January 22, 2014, 10:45:55 PM
I still blame stinken Moyes!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on January 24, 2014, 07:18:02 AM
I still blame stinken Moyes!!

x2

definitely can't blame the players, cause they were champs last year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on January 24, 2014, 07:55:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/PYYIdELpchE
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: weary1969 on January 24, 2014, 09:25:38 AM
Hey Man U fans Juan Mata won't MATTER. LOL
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 24, 2014, 09:56:55 AM
Somebody, anybody .... name the last time Chelsea sold a player to Man Utd ...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on January 24, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
Veron moved the opposite way from Manchester United to Chelsea about 10 years ago. 2003 I believe.
Mark Bosnich was pushed out of Manchester by Barthez. He went to Chelsea in 2000.
Mark Hughes also went from Man U to Chelsea in 95.

It looks like you have to go all the way back to Ray Wilkins in 1979 though, for a player moving from Chelsea to Man Utd.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 24, 2014, 10:19:42 AM
Veron moved the opposite way from Manchester United to Chelsea about 10 years ago. 2003 I believe.
Mark Bosnich was pushed out of Manchester by Barthez. He went to Chelsea in 2000.
Mark Hughes also went from Man U to Chelsea in 95.

It looks like you have to go all the way back to Ray Wilkins in 1979 though, for a player moving from Chelsea to Man Utd.

... dahis why ah does puh meh money on you FF. 

I haven't confirmed it, but that's my understanding. 35 years ago ... the clubs were differently positioned.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 24, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
Robbie Savage says 12 players should go: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25665649

Anderson and Valencia joined the squad 2 years apart ... yet both have played roughly the same number of games.

He (Anderson) has lasted longer at Utd than one would have thought, but he hasn't done his international career any favours. He's still young. Fuh some reason doh, ah feel a move will turn him into Adu.

So, he's off to Italy. Somehow, one wonders whether this move would have occurred had Fergie stayed another year. Which says something about Fergie and Anderson because Fergie shipped nuff men out, whether temporarily or permanently.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on January 24, 2014, 09:11:23 PM
Dis jokey  :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/v/gKBpVDnfK44
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 01, 2014, 11:06:03 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 01, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
Along with getting some better players, Moyes has to switch from the traditional 4-4-2, to a more modern 4-2-3-1. Playing Mata out wide is useless and the team still looks unimaginative going forward.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on February 01, 2014, 12:01:38 PM
Normally, I would be real happy now, eh...but as Rudder should say "ManBoo ah sorry""
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 01, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
Time for some Raymond Verheijen quotes.

"Over the last 6 months, Moyes’ prehistoric training methods, poor player management & superficial tactical knowledge have been exposed."

"Interesting to read all the reactions today after yet another Man United catastrophe last night. Why are people only blaming David Moyes?"


Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on February 01, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
How peeps go blame Moyes when this is still Fergie's team?

Fergie is a smart fella and left because he knew the well was dry

Man U won the title last year largely due to the magic of Van Persie.  A notoriously injury prone player who somehow stayed fit for a long period last season

Rooney has wanted away from Man U since the previous season

They sign a 40 year old to a new contract

You expect to be competitive far less win titles with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, a gone thru Fletcher, Ashley Young, etc?

And your defence is Raphael, an aging Evra, a past it and increasingly injury prone Vidic, Ferdinand cyah even make de 1st XI, Jonny Evans is average at best and Phil Jones eh know if he's a defender or midfielder.

The only bright spot is Januzaj.

That is what Fergie left for Moyes....and allyuh blamin him?  Dat eh fair.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on February 01, 2014, 03:26:44 PM
Hey Man U fans Juan Mata won't MATTER. LOL


Ah ever cuss yuh?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on February 01, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
Time for some Raymond Verheijen quotes.

"Over the last 6 months, Moyes’ prehistoric training methods, poor player management & superficial tactical knowledge have been exposed."

"Interesting to read all the reactions today after yet another Man United catastrophe last night. Why are people only blaming David Moyes?"




who else should be blamed? When the gaffer or in this case the gaff says I need you to play this way....you play that way...look at Manu U past couple of games against Soonderland and Stoke City they looked less than average even though they have the better players. So it's about what the players are told to do....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 01, 2014, 04:03:14 PM
Blame poor succession planning.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 01, 2014, 10:10:53 PM
I cyah see how Moyes take over and everything fall down. That real funny. How is this hand over any different from when Chelsea change a billion coaches in one week? Look Mourinho went Inter and win in no time. Look at Liverpool, they ran their changes and they flying. Man City. How is this transition SO much different?

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on February 02, 2014, 08:55:45 AM
I cyah see how Moyes take over and everything fall down. That real funny. How is this hand over any different from when Chelsea change a billion coaches in one week? Look Mourinho went Inter and win in no time. Look at Liverpool, they ran their changes and they flying. Man City. How is this transition SO much different?

De side, personnel-wise, haven't been all dat good for de past few years. Fergie was just able to impose his will on de side and get blood from ah stone. Even with Liverpool, Rodgers needed a full season and some transfers before getting them to play how dey playing now.

Me eh know if Moyes is de right man or not, but regardless who is de coach, ManU need ah serious makeover.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on February 02, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Fergie also had that group over-achieving, not everybody can make that happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 06, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
I cyah see how Moyes take over and everything fall down. That real funny. How is this hand over any different from when Chelsea change a billion coaches in one week? Look Mourinho went Inter and win in no time. Look at Liverpool, they ran their changes and they flying. Man City. How is this transition SO much different?

I understand where yuh coming from ... a lot more deference is being given here than has applied to other managerial transitions in the PL.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 06, 2014, 02:27:03 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 06, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on February 06, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
Them men looked well athletic! RIP.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on February 06, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
Vidic confirms United exit

Nemanja Vidic has confirmed he will leave Manchester United at the end of the 2013/14 season.

In a statement issued by the defender to ManUtd.com, the Serbian said: “It’s the last year of my contract and I have had eight wonderful years here. My time at this great club will always rank as the best years of my career.

"I never could have imagined winning 15 trophies and I will certainly never forget that fantastic night in Moscow, memories that will live with me and the fans forever. However, I have decided that I will move on at the end of this season. I want to challenge myself again and try to make the best of myself in the coming years.

"I’m not considering staying in England as the only club I ever wanted to play for here is Manchester United and I was lucky enough to be part of this club for so many years. I’ve got a few options to move on and I will choose the right one for me and for my family.

"I am now going to focus all my efforts on playing for Manchester United and do the best I can for the team until the end of the season. I hope this stops any further speculation about my future."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 06, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
Time to start rebuilding. Men getting old.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 07, 2014, 10:03:40 AM
Time to start rebuilding. Men getting old.

Is only now allyuh realize dat.  Allyuh ha to much geriatrics fuh one team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on February 07, 2014, 11:33:51 AM
Ah hear Senderos available
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 09, 2014, 10:21:20 AM
What a goal!

That beeping you hearing is Fulham backing up the bus.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on February 09, 2014, 10:24:59 AM
What a goal!

That beeping you hearing is Fulham backing up the bus.

hahahaha ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
What the mother c**t wrong with this team boy. Stueps
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Don't like the Man Utd's approach in the final third. Someone needs to put the ball on the carpet, attack the central defenders and/or isolate the left flank defender.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Richardson could have complicated Moyes' halftime. Steups.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 10:47:54 AM
What's Rafael offering that exceeds any invention Valencia could produce?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on February 09, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Fulham keeper earning he pay
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on February 09, 2014, 11:26:27 AM
Scrubs off.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on February 09, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
Which rugby team Vidic going to after this season?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 11:36:38 AM
Much more possible with the introductions. Iz not like Utd haven't had goal-scoring opportunities, but there hasn't been any creativity ... plenty imprecision on the crosses. Over reliance on crosses even.

Still, at one point, Fulham was wukkin hard and Utd were still squandering chances with ease.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 09, 2014, 11:37:40 AM
Hard luck dey Fulham.
You needed a bigger bus.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2014, 11:37:49 AM
United United!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Muelensteen is a big dumbass. He deerve to get fired. That is not even parking the bus. Can't even get that right.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on February 09, 2014, 11:38:04 AM
Just like dat!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on February 09, 2014, 11:41:08 AM
Who is that to the right of Ferguson? Is dat Simply red?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 11:42:53 AM
Man United still looking very poor though and is in the realm of Stoke, Sunderland and Cardiff type football. No creativity, just get it down the side and kick it in the box. Very poor for the level of player at Moyes disposal. One would expect more against a team like Fulham who is propping up the table.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 09, 2014, 11:52:19 AM
HAAAAAAA!!!!!

Doh park the bus, Drive the bus!

Tying goal in "Muelensteen Time"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2014, 11:53:11 AM
Shit clearance boy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
Ah glad! Bent handled what Richardson should have sealed. No Fergie time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2014, 11:53:59 AM
Cricket now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 11:55:47 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 11:58:19 AM
Which rugby team Vidic going to after this season?

Right through Vidic career that's how he play and hardly gets called for that terrible fouled.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on February 09, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
Cricket now.
At Old Trafford?  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 09, 2014, 03:51:12 PM
Cricket now.
At Old Trafford?  ;D

Steups boy. This Moyes fellah frustrating. The players themselves playing different too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 09, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
Lmao.. I been saying it since day 1... Moyes is not the man for Man.United. He sucks!! Don't blame the players, it's him that pick. The team.. Fletcher starting... What a joke!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
Lmao.. I been saying it since day 1... Moyes is not the man for Man.United. He sucks!! Don't blame the players, it's him that pick. The team.. Fletcher starting... What a joke!!!

Does that mean the holy one failed also?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on February 09, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
How peeps go blame Moyes when this is still Fergie's team?

Fergie is a smart fella and left because he knew the well was dry

Man U won the title last year largely due to the magic of Van Persie.  A notoriously injury prone player who somehow stayed fit for a long period last season

Rooney has wanted away from Man U since the previous season

They sign a 40 year old to a new contract

You expect to be competitive far less win titles with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, a gone thru Fletcher, Ashley Young, etc?

And your defence is Raphael, an aging Evra, a past it and increasingly injury prone Vidic, Ferdinand cyah even make de 1st XI, Jonny Evans is average at best and Phil Jones eh know if he's a defender or midfielder.

The only bright spot is Januzaj.

That is what Fergie left for Moyes....and allyuh blamin him?  Dat eh fair.

Ah can't agree with yuh this time Palos. Even with a well coached youth team yuh could see de game plan. All yuh seeing here is a lot of confusion and players not knowing/understanding their roles. No way Moyes ready to coach a big team. Even if a few of de players aging, no way this roster so bad. How Cleverly all of a sudden so terrible? Role players thrive in an organized environment, and play THEIR roles. Role players don't do so well in pickup ball. I was hoping it would get better, but it looks like the players know their leader doesn't have a clue. I agree the team has overachieved and needs revamping, but Moyes is not up to the task right now.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
How peeps go blame Moyes when this is still Fergie's team?

Fergie is a smart fella and left because he knew the well was dry

Man U won the title last year largely due to the magic of Van Persie.  A notoriously injury prone player who somehow stayed fit for a long period last season

Rooney has wanted away from Man U since the previous season

They sign a 40 year old to a new contract

You expect to be competitive far less win titles with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, a gone thru Fletcher, Ashley Young, etc?

And your defence is Raphael, an aging Evra, a past it and increasingly injury prone Vidic, Ferdinand cyah even make de 1st XI, Jonny Evans is average at best and Phil Jones eh know if he's a defender or midfielder.

The only bright spot is Januzaj.

That is what Fergie left for Moyes....and allyuh blamin him?  Dat eh fair.

Ah can't agree with yuh this time Palos. Even with a well coached youth team yuh could see de game plan. All yuh seeing here is a lot of confusion and players not knowing/understanding their roles. No way Moyes ready to coach a big team. Even if a few of de players aging, no way this roster so bad. How Cleverly all of a sudden so terrible? Role players thrive in an organized environment, and play THEIR roles. Role players don't do so well in pickup ball. I was hoping it would get better, but it looks like the players know their leader doesn't have a clue. I agree the team has overachieved and needs revamping, but Moyes is not up to the task right now.

But there was a game plan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 09, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
Crosses from Man United. Every player except Vidic and DeGea had a cross.


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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
Dahis it. At half, the stat was 6 crosses out of 31 connected with a teammate. Crosses were his agenda. Introducing Januzaj on the right was targeted to getting dangerous balls in via left-footed service.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
Man Utd remind Fulham's Dan Burn of Conference football

Fulham defender Dan Burn has likened defending against Manchester United to playing in the Conference.
Burn, 21, played 10 times in the division for Darlington in 2011 and helped Fulham field 81 crosses in their 2-2 draw at Old Trafford on Sunday.

I'm six foot seven so it helps when dealing with those sort of balls"

"I've never headed that many balls since the Conference," said Burn. "We knew that was going to happen and I was happy for them to play like that.


Fulham boss Rene Meulensteen said United's style was "straightforward".

United's 81 crosses broke a Premier League record that had stood since 2006, but only 18 found a player in red.

Darren Bent's injury-time header secured Fulham's first point in four matches but manager David Moyes defended his side's tactics, stating playing with width was "in United's genes".

"I'm six foot seven so it helps when dealing with those sort of balls," added Burn, who made 22 clearances in the match.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26120927
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on February 10, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
Dey buy might Mata to cross ball?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 10, 2014, 12:04:22 PM
This makes Moyes very questionable in his approach to the game. You must know they have a 6'7 defender and yet your tactics is cross balls? You have Nani, Young, Januzaj, Kagawa, Mata, RVP, Rooney, Jones, Fletcher, Wellbeck, ChiChi Boy, Giggs, Valencia and the best tactics you can come up with is cross the ball?

No Bueno
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2014, 12:13:02 PM
Wait until you see his post-match quotes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Fantastic on February 10, 2014, 12:45:34 PM
How peeps go blame Moyes when this is still Fergie's team?

Fergie is a smart fella and left because he knew the well was dry

Man U won the title last year largely due to the magic of Van Persie.  A notoriously injury prone player who somehow stayed fit for a long period last season

Rooney has wanted away from Man U since the previous season

They sign a 40 year old to a new contract

You expect to be competitive far less win titles with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, a gone thru Fletcher, Ashley Young, etc?

And your defence is Raphael, an aging Evra, a past it and increasingly injury prone Vidic, Ferdinand cyah even make de 1st XI, Jonny Evans is average at best and Phil Jones eh know if he's a defender or midfielder.

The only bright spot is Januzaj.

That is what Fergie left for Moyes....and allyuh blamin him?  Dat eh fair.

Ah can't agree with yuh this time Palos. Even with a well coached youth team yuh could see de game plan. All yuh seeing here is a lot of confusion and players not knowing/understanding their roles. No way Moyes ready to coach a big team. Even if a few of de players aging, no way this roster so bad. How Cleverly all of a sudden so terrible? Role players thrive in an organized environment, and play THEIR roles. Role players don't do so well in pickup ball. I was hoping it would get better, but it looks like the players know their leader doesn't have a clue. I agree the team has overachieved and needs revamping, but Moyes is not up to the task right now.

But there was a game plan.

I wouldn't consider crossing a million times to have RVP and 2 midgets battle giants a plan. Those players are just out there guessing and not even hoping they get help from the bench.  Moyes been looking for offense from his wing backs all year even when they are suffering defensively. I think without a real game plan that has potential adjustments, the players played where they could find space to play the ball to. I would hope that a " game plan " is a bit more extensive than that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Coach on February 10, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
Laudrup is out there.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on February 10, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
Dey better doh put GOD out dey thoughts and feel dey go poach Coach Hart from T&T  :pissedoff: :pissedoff: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on February 10, 2014, 02:11:10 PM
bring Jurgen Klopp
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2014, 03:02:17 PM
Quote
Moyes denied that United's plan was merely to utilise the cross. "It was never one way," he said. "If you're just going to look at the stats and think about the crosses you need to think about the number of passes and I don't think we just went out and crossed the ball. Some people might say that one of the things that Manchester United do is play with width and cross the ball, that's in the genes here.

Yet Meulensteen said: "When I saw Manchester United today I thought the game plan was quite straightforward – get it wide, get it in, whether it was from the full-back pushing on or the supporting wide man and midfielder."

Is it easy to defend against if that is the unchanging game plan? "If you're well-organised and the goalkeeper is in good positions to come and collect the ball at times, yeah, it can be easy," said Meulensteen. "You need a little bit of creativity and a bit of variety at times to open [teams] up. The first goal they scored was from a ball that was in a second phase, fell and was a sort of pass across the goal that got tapped in. And the second came from a clearance then a shot and a deflection."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/09/manchester-united-david-moyes-fulham-rene-meulensteen

As the game unfolded, these things were eminently evident. Ah still cyah help but feel, Kieran Richardson could have helped to dispatch Moyes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2014, 06:11:36 PM
Stekelenburg deserves credit. It really eh fair to ignore his contribution.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 10, 2014, 06:34:33 PM
Stekelenburg deserves credit. It really eh fair to ignore his contribution.

Worked like he was on a trial.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on February 12, 2014, 11:48:22 AM
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on February 12, 2014, 03:46:23 PM
thanks
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 12, 2014, 04:43:12 PM
Matta, looking ordinary playing for Man-U. Infact he looking like Cleverly in ah no.8 juzzy
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
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Stueps  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 12, 2014, 06:06:03 PM
Enjoy the laughs while it last.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 12, 2014, 08:01:27 PM
Vidic is a dutty, stinkin, nasty, good for nutten player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 13, 2014, 03:12:42 AM

David Moyes persuades Juan Mata to join Manchester United against the advice of Sir Alex: A one act play


By Jonathan Liew1:27PM GMT 24 Jan 2014
Manchester United manager David Moyes convinces Juan Mata that Old Trafford is the right move - but the ghost of Sir Alex Ferguson still haunts his every step

(The manager's office at the Manchester United training ground, Carrington. Plaques, photographs and framed memorabilia adorn the walls. On one side of the room sits a cabinet that once held silverware, but is now completely empty apart from an LMA Manager of the Year trophy and a black Marouane Fellaini wig. David Moyes is sitting at his desk, reading the morning papers with a tired, glazed expression. Suddenly he becomes aware of a shadow being cast over him. He looks up.)

MOYES
Sir Alex! You scared the life out of me.

FERGUSON
Ghosts of the past, Davie. They'll always haunt you, as long as you let them.

MOYES (rising to shake his hand)
I didn't know you were coming. Are you here on club business?

FERGUSON
Suppose you could say that. I hear the boy Mata's on the premises.

MOYES
He's having his medical. He'll be here any moment. What were you after?

FERGUSON
Just a chat, Davie. (Pulls up a chair) D'you mind?

(Moyes says nothing. Ferguson sits)

FERGUSON
Now listen to me, Davie. I'm not totally convinced about the boy. It's a lot of money for a player who hasn't played a lot of football. I never liked doing business in January for this very reason.

MOYES
Well, I can understand your feelings. But...

FERGUSON
It's an area of the pitch where we're already strong. Rooney, Kagawa, Januzaj. Even Fellaini can play there.

MOYES
But a player of his class doesn't come on the market often, Sir Alex. And with the squad that we had at the start of this season...

FERGUSON (cutting him off)
The squad you had at the start of this season won the Premier League by 11 points. Now you're seventh, you're out of both cups, the fans are fed up, the players are disillusioned, the press are ripping you to shreds, and you're panicking.

MOYES
I'm not panicking. OK, we're not where we wanted to be. But it's not the crisis that everyone's making out.

FERGUSON (leaning towards him)
Your eyes are bloodshot, Davie. Did you sleep last night?

(Moyes does not answer. There is a knock at the door. Before Moyes can answer, the door opens. Juan Mata is standing in the doorway)

MATA
This is the manager's office?

MOYES
It is.

(Mata walks in. Ferguson leaves without acknowledging him. Mata sits down)

MATA
You must forgive me. You are older than I thought you would be.

MOYES
I get that a lot.

MATA
Last night I was so tired I got to the hotel and went to sleep straight away. I don't even know what happened last night. Against Sunderland. You have the newspaper there?

MOYES (sweeping the newspapers off the desk with his arm)
No! I mean, those are old newspapers. We... we won. Two-one.

MATA
So it went to penalties? What happened?

MOYES
I can't remember, to be honest. Anyway, it's terrific to have you here. There were rumours last night that you'd turned round on the M6 and gone home.

MATA
That was just a joke on the Twitter. You must not believe everything you read on Twitter.

MOYES
So the story about Phil Jones's penalty landing...?

MATA
Also a joke on Twitter, yes.

MOYES
You've met the boys?

MATA
Yes, but David De Gea was not there. If I leave my number, will he be able to get hold of me?

MOYES
I doubt it. He doesn't get hold of much.

(Loud groans)

MOYES
Where did that come from?

MATA
So, gaffer. I just wanted to say what an honour it is. People say the manager is not so important as the players, as the owner, as the sporting director. But the beautiful thing about English football? The manager is the father of the club. The number one guy. Everybody respects him. What he says, it's the law. I can't wait to start. When do you want me to begin training?

MOYES
Well, it's up to you, really.

MATA
Fine. You know, a footballer just wants to be loved. To feel needed. I didn't feel loved or needed at Chelsea. I'm not a winger. I don't have chalk on my shoes, like you say. My position is behind the striker. That is where I must play.

MOYES
Yes. Well, we have a lot of players in that general sort of area.

MATA
That is no good. I must play where I feel strongest.

MOYES
You know, the pitch at Old Trafford is so much bigger than other pitches. I'm sure we can find room for you somewhere.

MATA
I must say that I am very much looking forward to playing with Rooney. Rooney wants to stay?

MOYES
I'm sorry, who?

MATA
Wayne Rooney. He wants to stay here?

MOYES
One hundred per cent. Have we had problems in the past? Yes. Has he handed in a transfer request before? Yes. Has he turned up for training in a Chelsea shirt? Well, yes. But that's all in the past now. I don't think he's worn the Chelsea shirt in... well, definitely not since Christmas. So, you know.

MATA
All I need is for United to share my ambition. I won a Champions League, I won a World Cup. But I always want more. I don't believe in God, but when you're standing up there, holding the Champions League trophy in your hands, then it's a kind of divinity? You know what I mean?

MOYES
I do. Actually, I remember winning the Division Two title with Preston in 2000, and that was quite... religious.

MATA
I want to challenge for the Premier League, every season. I want to play in the Champions League, every season. I want to win every trophy. I want the best players in the world to come to Manchester United. And I want to play for a manager who believes he is the best manager in the world. Do you believe that?

(The door opens suddenly. Ferguson is standing in the doorway. Moyes leaps out of his chair)

MOYES
Sir Alex?

FERGUSON
Well, answer him, Davie. Do you?

(Moyes stares at Ferguson, and then back at Mata, who now looks puzzled)

FERGUSON
It's no use, Davie. You're the only one who can see me.

MATA
Mr Moyes? Are you OK?

(Moyes is still unable to speak. He looks at Ferguson, then to the empty trophy cabinet on his right, and then back at Ferguson)

FERGUSON
Ghosts of the past, Davie. They'll always haunt you, as long as you let them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10594928/David-Moyes-persuades-Juan-Mata-to-join-Manchester-United-against-the-advice-of-Sir-Alex-A-one-act-play.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 13, 2014, 09:55:59 AM
Sir Alex right Moyes, keep ah prays and get rid of that ghost at OT.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 25, 2014, 02:25:42 PM
Wicked Deflection.
All-too-familiar result
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 25, 2014, 02:46:53 PM
Man-U looking like Cardiff City. The backline and midfield are in need of major upgrades during the summer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on February 25, 2014, 02:58:38 PM
Wicked Deflection.
All-too-familiar result

The fella flick dat ball on purpose...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 25, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Joel Campbell looking ready for the world cup.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 25, 2014, 02:59:07 PM
Wicked Deflection.
All-too-familiar result

The fella flick dat ball on purpose...

Wicked flick
All-too-familiar result
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on February 25, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on February 25, 2014, 03:00:27 PM
Well dat wasn't a deflection nor a flick
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on February 25, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Well dat wasn't a deflection nor a flick

Wicked string-up.

Campbell running through them men like cones. Ferdinand do anything yet besides pointing and shouting?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 25, 2014, 03:26:00 PM
Rooney earning that new 300,000 pounds a week contract. He is playing deep and running hard.
On another note, Smalling keep slipping in the first half, oh gosh change yuh tugs at the intermission.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 25, 2014, 03:34:13 PM
Man U in tatters....smh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 25, 2014, 03:35:11 PM
Man U in tatters....smh

Dey showin deh true colours
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on February 25, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
At least they beat Palace.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 25, 2014, 03:40:56 PM
holy crap.....   :o

Can't even laugh.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 25, 2014, 03:41:06 PM
Man U in tatters....smh
All of a sudden Ferdinand first touch looking like Kenwyne's.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 25, 2014, 03:41:52 PM
At least they beat Palace.
Fools gold.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: doc on February 25, 2014, 03:48:25 PM
Things looking very grim at the Stretford End....  :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 25, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
Is Moyes the man to trust with a 300 mil kitty for the summer?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on February 25, 2014, 05:02:31 PM
Hmmmph
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: palos on February 25, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
Hmmmph

 ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 25, 2014, 08:59:44 PM
Quote
What will be of concern to everyone at the club this evening was the ease with which Olympiakos handled the defending Premier League champions. There are two types of footballing humiliation: one is the loss by several goals, a type of thrashing that can be oddly cathartic, the other is a slow, painful subsidence, the equivalent of having your face gently, firmly pressed into the sand.

The latter was what Manchester United suffered tonight, and there is little or no comfort to be drawn from this result.

Source (http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/manchesterunited/id/4417?cc=5901)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on February 26, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
Man-U looking like Cardiff City. The backline and midfield are in need of major upgrades during the summer.
what backline you mean dem 4 practice dummies?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on February 26, 2014, 08:44:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/yuV1rZteF10
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 26, 2014, 09:00:10 PM
State the date yuh think Moyes will be pushed outta road. Winner gets a prize. De man have Wall Street wobbly.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on February 27, 2014, 01:00:53 PM
I'm going with the end of the season. Of he is allowed another shot. I give him 2 months into the next season. #clueless prick
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 27, 2014, 02:41:27 PM
I'm going with the end of the season. Of he is allowed another shot. I give him 2 months into the next season. #clueless prick

So how come nobody eh saying how SAF toots down heself with this selection. I find he getting a huge pass by the media. If Moyes was successful they would have been blowing him so hard he coulda sail up the Irish sea.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on February 27, 2014, 04:04:24 PM
I think he will be gone before the end of the season. Moyes was never my choice for United and still isn't as we needed a big name name coach to have that dynamic effect on the team. With that said he was handed an average team that at best is nothing more than a 4th place finisher and there isn't anything he could to make it better. What he needed to do to challenge himself was to bring in an entirely new staff where he would have had new and different perspectives from those he had at Everton.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on February 27, 2014, 04:23:52 PM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on February 27, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
I hear is 36 million severance.


Could the manager be loaned out?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on February 28, 2014, 09:08:14 AM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.

I think they can get a well respected and highly valued coach in, but it going to cost. Come summer time, every selling club with great talent will be praying ManU come around so they could make some money. ManU in a real tough negotiating spot, with or without Moyes in charge, and every team and agent will be looking to take advantage of their "desperation".
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2014, 09:48:00 AM
"The removal of Moyes is not just a football necessity, it is a business must. Man United is one of the world’s most successful, commercially astute football businesses, but it is all predicated on playing attractive, entertaining and crucially, winning football.
 
--- Geoff Ho, Sunday Express City Editor

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/462141/The-David-Moyes-effect-Man-United-club-shares-plunge-by-a-FIFTH-since-Sir-Alex-s-days
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: FF on March 03, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Something for the Moyes Boo Boys to consider.

Going Behind: Was there a warning sign for Manchester United?
5 Added Minutes.com


One of the defining features of Sir Alex Ferguson’s final title-winning season at Manchester United was his team’s ability to win matches from losing positions. They found themselves behind on 16 occasions in 2012-13, and took 29 points from these games.

Whilst Ferguson was undoubtedly a master of late and come-from-behind victories, you have the question the sustainability of winning games in this nature so often.

Looking at Premier League teams from the start of the 2006-07 season, unsurprisingly we see that most teams will find themselves behind in games as often as they were the previous season.

Read more (http://5addedminutes.com/2014/02/28/going-behind-was-there-a-warning-sign-for-manchester-united/)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 03, 2014, 10:47:43 AM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.

I think they can get a well respected and highly valued coach in, but it going to cost. Come summer time, every selling club with great talent will be praying ManU come around so they could make some money. ManU in a real tough negotiating spot, with or without Moyes in charge, and every team and agent will be looking to take advantage of their "desperation".

Latest Rumor:  Dream team of Van Gaal and de Boer, if the skid continues under Moyes.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 03, 2014, 12:44:31 PM
This signing by Ferguson is his equivalent to signing Bebe.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 03, 2014, 01:14:54 PM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.

I think they can get a well respected and highly valued coach in, but it going to cost. Come summer time, every selling club with great talent will be praying ManU come around so they could make some money. ManU in a real tough negotiating spot, with or without Moyes in charge, and every team and agent will be looking to take advantage of their "desperation".

Latest Rumor:  Dream team of Van Gaal and de Boer, if the skid continues under Moyes.

If?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 03, 2014, 01:40:54 PM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.

I think they can get a well respected and highly valued coach in, but it going to cost. Come summer time, every selling club with great talent will be praying ManU come around so they could make some money. ManU in a real tough negotiating spot, with or without Moyes in charge, and every team and agent will be looking to take advantage of their "desperation".

Latest Rumor:  Dream team of Van Gaal and de Boer, if the skid continues under Moyes.

This would be a great move, as both coaches are well respected. The one hurdle is that Fergie eh go sign off on this deal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 03, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
Under all the the ole talk, most want Moyes gone because of his lack of success. But are there any 'well respected' coaches that can come in and restore order. Not only to win, but to gain the respect of the locker room.

I think they can get a well respected and highly valued coach in, but it going to cost. Come summer time, every selling club with great talent will be praying ManU come around so they could make some money. ManU in a real tough negotiating spot, with or without Moyes in charge, and every team and agent will be looking to take advantage of their "desperation".

Latest Rumor:  Dream team of Van Gaal and de Boer, if the skid continues under Moyes.

This would be a great move, as both coaches are well respected. The one hurdle is that Fergie eh go sign off on this deal.

Things moving past Fergie. The bottom line is $$$. I heard de Boer comment about this recently and he was frank as could be ... said he wasn't ready.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 08, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/Chunkycj/SC20140308-093044-1_zps872ddd92.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 08, 2014, 04:53:04 PM
Looks like Man U and Barcelona swapped coaches for the day.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2014, 09:02:54 AM
Why not sub Rafael?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 16, 2014, 09:26:19 AM
Why not sub Rafael?

After the penalty, Rafael actually had a pretty good game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 09:26:46 AM
I suspect the level of intensity at practice for Man United is very low.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 16, 2014, 09:32:19 AM
Despite the bruhaha from the commentary, Man United was just as not clinical in the final part of the field as Liverpool. Liverpool only score in the run of play after Vidic sent off (and was lucky as Sturridge tried to shoot that).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 16, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
Why not sub Rafael?

After the penalty, Rafael actually had a pretty good game.

He had alot of saving tackles and locked down the right side after the penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 16, 2014, 09:37:32 AM
Despite the bruhaha from the commentary, Man United was just as not clinical in the final part of the field as Liverpool. Liverpool only score in the run of play after Vidic sent off (and was lucky as Sturridge tried to shoot that).

Nah give jack he jacket. Liverpool was better in all aspects of the game today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2014, 09:40:02 AM
Why not sub Rafael?

After the penalty, Rafael actually had a pretty good game.

He had alot of saving tackles and locked down the right side after the penalty.

I'm referring to later in the game where he escaped a card upon fouling Suarez. At that point, the risk of a red card was heightened. As between Vidic and Rafael, Vidic stays on the field (he couldn't sub both, right ... wouldn't make sense tactically) ... in the end Vidic gets dismissed. Utd were fortunate not to have ended with 9. Not to mention Rafael is woeful at delivering the crosses Moyes thrives on.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2014, 12:24:03 PM
I think Moyes will go before the return leg versus Olympiakos. What's the benefit of keeping him?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 16, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
allyuh is real jokers oui....
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 16, 2014, 02:48:56 PM
I have been as firm an advocate of being fair to Moyes... but I don't think he realize is Man U. he coaching.  Here is Rodgers' take on Moyes' statement that Liverpool were the favorites in today's match:

Quote
“I would never say that at Liverpool -- even if I was bottom of the league.  Anfield is Anfield.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 16, 2014, 04:52:15 PM
Hold up, i just realize something. We get buss ass at home  ??? didn't even study the stadium at the time nah






Mudder c**t  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
Yuh see it, DHW. That squandered some goodwill right dey.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on March 17, 2014, 09:56:53 AM
Klopp? Simeone? Giggs? Vote now and tell us who should replace David Moyes this summer

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-manager-jurgen-klopp-3252028#ixzz2wEhLv4LU
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Manchester United fans call for David Moyes to be sacked after humiliating defeat to Liverpool

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-fans-call-david-3251552#ixzz2wEhTfi3g
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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 17, 2014, 10:13:19 AM
Post Sammy!!! De fella on a video in the second link hitting on all cylinders of discontent. He reminds me of a man who called in to the BBC crying on Saturday after de game. De man said he has been a supporter for 54 years and he damn near done ... until something is done. Literally yuh could hear de man sniffling on de radio. Allyuh think iz joke ting ... watch de ride.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 17, 2014, 10:25:31 AM
Post Sammy!!! De fella on a video in the second link hitting on all cylinders of discontent. He reminds me of a man who called in to the BBC crying on Saturday after de game. De man said he has been a supporter for 54 years and he damn near done ... until something is done. Literally yuh could hear de man sniffling on de radio. Allyuh think iz joke ting ... watch de ride.

For the past 15 yrs they have  been winning! One friggin year they on the downside and you want to commit hari kari. Steups, GO AHEAD!!!! 68 to 92 they won nothing. Liverpool won 10. Things go in cycle. I will remind those suiciders Fergie had a very shakey start also.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 17, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
Post Sammy!!! De fella on a video in the second link hitting on all cylinders of discontent. He reminds me of a man who called in to the BBC crying on Saturday after de game. De man said he has been a supporter for 54 years and he damn near done ... until something is done. Literally yuh could hear de man sniffling on de radio. Allyuh think iz joke ting ... watch de ride.

For the past 15 yrs they been winning! One friggin year you want to commit hari kari. Steups, GO AHEAD!!!!

Deeks, I'm not advocating for his dismissal. However, I hold the view that his dismissal is likely, if not imminent. I'm reading the tea leaves, not making the brew. All the supporting factors for my view are widely available. The most damning of these factors is insensitive to the club's tradition of winning and/or to the duration of his time on the job.

The next 4 matches are: Olympiakos, West Ham, City and Villa. With the first he has to overcome a deficit to sustain in CL competition. The significance of the other matches is also broadly understood.

Hari Kari? Isn't that kinda harsh ... under the present production, keeping him might be the hari kari. Iz not my $$$ spending but ah sure you've realized there's a measure of intolerance when it comes to deep pockets.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 18, 2014, 09:24:24 AM
Van Gaal!!!!... I have not post in a while, for I was on the mountain asking the wise one questions about my beloved team's failures this season.. He said to get rid of that goat Moyes and bring in Van Gaal or Simeone.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on March 18, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
Fergie and Charlton are to blame for this mess... their utter stubbornness to keep the club under British guidance and gamble on an average Manager who has never won any silverware to take over from the most successful winner of them all.

It makes no sense, it never did and never will.

It should have been Jose, the only man capable of coming into United and taking over from Fergie.

That shipped has sailed, Moyes will be gone either before summer or by Christmas this year depending on results. He will not turn this around. He has no clear vision for United fans to see progression and allow him time to build something successful such as Rodgers at Liverpool. You could have seen what he wanted to implement and they gave him time and resources to do as such.  Moyes has regressed the champions at a rate nobody could have seen or thought possible.

United have a chance to evolve and modernize their style of play and break away from the traditional British old school style.

Do everything to get Klopp
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on March 18, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
Banter hold on. I would have liked to see Jose or even Mancini, but the board made their choice. To be honest, I don't know Brendon Rodgers, and can't remember him winning anything either. You tell me. And he has been at Pool for about 3 yrs. So he has had his baptism of fire.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 18, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
Banter hold on. I would have liked to see Jose or even Mancini, but the board made their choice. To be honest, I don't know Brendon Rodgers, and can't remember him winning anything either. You tell me. And he has been at Pool for about 3 yrs. So he has had his baptism of fire.

Yeah, but his coaching philospohy, man-management, and tactical flexibility is more of a continental approach, as that is where he learned his trade.  In Moyes, you have a tactically rigid, old-school, blue colar manager.  Hi training methods have been deemed archaic, and he seems fixated on getting in 100 cross per game into the box.  He's taking Man U backwards, when other teams are embracing the continental style and trying to play good, attractive football. Remember, Rodgers took charge of a team that finished 7th in the league; Moyes inherited a championship squad, so that is somewhat of a steep fall, season-to-season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: 1-868 on March 19, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
https://www.toovia.com/top/top-10-manchester-united-players-of-all-time?OutbrainCJC2US

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 19, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
The way Valencia eye looking. Man U need to add a cutman to the staff.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 19, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
stupendous double-save by De Gea
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on March 19, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
DOUBLE FROM VAN PERSIE!!! 2-2 ON AGGREGATE!!! COME ON UNITED!!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on March 19, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
DOUBLE FROM VAN PERSIE!!! 2-2 ON AGGREGATE!!! COME ON UNITED!!!!!

They get loud all of a sudden.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on March 19, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
Foul on Valencia in the box or nah?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 19, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
Keeper look like he had cement in his boots.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on March 19, 2014, 02:56:55 PM
Thought he took a strange position on that free kick
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 19, 2014, 02:58:11 PM
DOUBLE FROM VAN PERSIE!!! 2-2 ON AGGREGATE!!! COME ON UNITED!!!!!

They get loud all of a sudden.

Mmmhm!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 19, 2014, 03:39:59 PM
Good assist by the ref on the 3rd goal.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 19, 2014, 03:40:10 PM
Man-U won today, but they have real cutarse to get in the next rounds.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 19, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
Glory glory
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: che on March 19, 2014, 05:51:24 PM
Well done United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on March 20, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
Makes sense...

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1004828_732217243492153_141301993_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 21, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
RVP out for 4-6 weeks. Moyes cyah catch a break.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on March 22, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
Great goal by Rooney...
Young's vision and speed of thought is a too slow for this level.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on March 22, 2014, 06:43:38 PM
Wayne Rooney: West Ham goal better than David Beckham's says Dwight Yorke
skysports.com


Dwight Yorke says Wayne Rooney's spectacular long-range goal against West Ham was better than David Beckham's iconic strike against Wimbledon.

Former Manchester United midfielder Beckham made his name in August 1996 when he lobbed the ball over Neil Sullivan from inside his own half - and he was at Upton Park on Saturday evening to see Rooney score a comparable 58-yard goal in a 2-0 victory for David Moyes' side.

But even though Saturday's effort was from slightly closer range, former Red Devils forward Yorke says it was a better goal because it was hit on the volley over Adrian, rather than being kicked from the floor.

And he said it was also arguably better than the famous bicycle kick Rooney scored against Manchester City in 2011.

"This guy has scored some spectacular goals in the past - ie against City and he scored one against Newcastle - but I think Becks would be very proud of this one," Yorke said on Saturday Night Football.

"For me I think it's a much more difficult skill [than Beckham's]. He hits it with a bit of 'swazz' as we say in football - the outside of the boot.

"It's much easier to kick it off the deck. I think to hit it with 'swazz', with the outside of your boot that far, is a difficult skill.

"To actually be precise with it is a very difficult skill. Obviously Wazza can do that. We've seen time and time again he has always produced these magical moments.

"To do that knowing how important this game was - and to try it - was just fantastic."

Brilliance

Fellow Saturday Night Football expert Jamie Redknapp disagreed, arguing that the range of Beckham's goal made it more spectacular.

He also criticised the defending of West Ham defender James Tomkins, who was muscled easily off the ball by Rooney, but he admitted the effort was "genius".

"I'm going for David Beckham's," Redknapp said.

"It was just inside his own half, but it was brilliance - absolute brilliance - from Rooney.

"I would want my centre-back to be a lot stronger than James Tomkins was. As the ball fell to Wayne Rooney there was the slightest nudge, but I don't think you can complain about that.

"After that it was pure genius from Rooney. You need the ability and audacity to try it - and he hits it so hard. I love the fact that as soon as the ball bounces he has a little look and sees where the keeper is. It's fantastic.

"He knew where the keeper was - but I'm not sure the keeper knew where he was!"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 22, 2014, 07:46:21 PM
Stueps Beckham was better
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 25, 2014, 02:05:30 PM
Is pace in alyuh waist. Being torn apart at will.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 25, 2014, 03:10:08 PM
Abject... I mean, Sorry! Sorry!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on March 25, 2014, 03:19:48 PM
I expected a little bit more of a fight from Man U.  This is the one time I was hoping they'd play well.  Old Trafford is now an abandoned fortress
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 25, 2014, 03:29:56 PM
I expected a little bit more of a fight from Man U.  This is the one time I was hoping they'd play well.  Old Trafford is now an abandoned fortress

Old Trafford more like a brothel... all kinda man walking in normal normal and bulling dem.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mr Fix-it on March 26, 2014, 06:54:06 AM
I expected a little bit more of a fight from Man U.  This is the one time I was hoping they'd play well.  Old Trafford is now an abandoned fortress

Old Trafford more like a brothel... all kinda man walking in normal normal and bulling dem.

Oh sh*T, man stop talking bout my home so nah....It might be a hoe house, but is my hoe house have some respect even if no one else does. :banginghead: :banginghead: :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on March 26, 2014, 08:39:18 AM
Any thoughts on why Utd has done better in the CL?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
Any thoughts on why Utd has done better in the CL?

EPL opponents are much more familiar with them and Moyes overall and use it to their advantage.  Yes there is scouting and all that but I doubt CL opponents are able to scout to the level EPL opponents can.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 26, 2014, 09:41:39 AM
Fans are starting to turn on the goat.. They had people protecting "The chosen one" banner as people were trying to take it down.. I'm just sitting in the back seat angry watching everyone beat us. Can't wait for the day we fire that clueless joke of a coach!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on March 26, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Any thoughts on why Utd has done better in the CL?

They eh play anybody yet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on March 26, 2014, 11:12:08 AM
Oh sh*T, man stop talking bout my home so nah....It might be a hoe house, but is my hoe house have some respect even if no one else does. :banginghead: :banginghead: :devil:

Doh worry, Anfield hoe house was in operation fuh ah few years until we shut it down last year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 26, 2014, 12:30:52 PM
Fans are starting to turn on the goat.. They had people protecting "The chosen one" banner as people were trying to take it down.. I'm just sitting in the back seat angry watching everyone beat us. Can't wait for the day we fire that clueless joke of a coach!!

Maybe one day you'll be true to yourself and admit that your team is shit.  In reality nobody could win consistently with that garbage.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: MEP on March 26, 2014, 01:15:53 PM
I expected a little bit more of a fight from Man U.  This is the one time I was hoping they'd play well.  Old Trafford is now an abandoned fortress

Old Trafford more like a brothel... all kinda man walking in normal normal and bulling dem.
Look we bring in de wrong mamasan....dat go change soon plus some ah de ol how we have weary and dey ting buss up so rest assured we will bring in some courtesans but doh forget dem ol ting have a couple good wine left in dem
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on March 28, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
The elbow to Zabaleta, jabbing the ref in the stomach and spitting at Zabaleta. Yellow card.

http://www.youtube.com/v/2hoPJGFHmPA
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 29, 2014, 06:59:25 AM
look ting......like is alyuh turn now....but in alyuh own house
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on March 29, 2014, 08:03:57 AM
leave for ah bit and dey turn it around......mata score.....finally
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on March 29, 2014, 11:18:42 AM
Well the damn plane stunt backfired. All these fans who think Moyes need time, must have not been watching this man's tactics and squad selection. They only saying that cause the "GodFather" said to stand by Moyes. Bunch a gullible ducks!! Moyes Out!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on March 30, 2014, 07:20:22 AM
Hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on March 30, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
He eh getting fired this season. So thats that.


April Fool Prank: United to beat Bayern 3-0...with no first choice defenders playing.  :P
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 03, 2014, 09:43:36 AM
What?? A draw with Bayern and nobody have any comments??
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 03, 2014, 10:50:42 AM
What?? A draw with Bayern and nobody have any comments??

Nothing to talk about.  The Moyes detractors have to shut dey ass up because he pull off what seemed impossible.  His defenders need not say anything.  The haters don't care because cutass imminent anyway.  And the delusional fans scared to talk because the other half eh take place yet so dey bam bam cuttin ah nail right now.


Personally I will say that if Moyes is given time he might prove to be a good fit.  ManUre will still have trouble attracting the very best players as they did before under Fergie.  It may be even harder now because they are not in Champions League next season barring a miracle.

One thing that is noteworthy is how Man U took a page from our playbook when we won it 2 years ago.  Only difference is we actually mounted legit counter attacks while they just hit and hope like old school Stoke under Pulis lol.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 04, 2014, 11:59:44 AM
LOL!! Ah figure ah woulda at least see a "What de arse jes happen??" string of comments.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2014, 12:14:29 PM
Reporting for duty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 09, 2014, 01:40:22 PM
Reporting for duty.

Yuh eyes bleeding yet after watching that first half?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 09, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
I ent even get a chance to come and post about Evra goal...
That lead lasted all of 22 seconds.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 09, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
I ent even get a chance to come and post about Evra goal...
That lead lasted all of 22 seconds.
Scored a beauty and then  seconds later he lose his man who scored the equalizer.
As ah type that, back to back dunce plays by Evra
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
Sigh
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 09, 2014, 02:18:54 PM
Killer!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 09, 2014, 02:20:10 PM
I was now saying to myself on the prior united attack, that Bayern don't have a park-the-bus mode.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on April 09, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Hater reporting for duty.
That's more like it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 20, 2014, 10:58:56 AM
(http://avatarfiles.alphacoders.com/534/5347.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 20, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
 :(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Toppa on April 20, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
(http://avatarfiles.alphacoders.com/534/5347.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 21, 2014, 08:53:11 AM
Reports this morning is that rotten sack of potatoes is about to get tossed.. Fire him already!!!

http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1792411&lang=EN&i=FB&w=1dxyd
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 21, 2014, 03:05:02 PM
So it ends. Finally. Praying
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 21, 2014, 08:35:24 PM
Moyes to be fired tomorrow, Giggs in charge and then try to woo Klopp to Man United.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on April 22, 2014, 02:14:03 AM
Doubt they will get Klopp.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on April 22, 2014, 02:39:41 AM
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Apr/club-statement-on-david-moyes.aspx
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
He got the sack 1 hour and 40 minutes ago. 0800 BST; 0300 EST.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 02:46:10 AM
I have been as firm an advocate of being fair to Moyes... but I don't think he realize is Man U. he coaching.  Here is Rodgers' take on Moyes' statement that Liverpool were the favorites in today's match:

Quote
“I would never say that at Liverpool -- even if I was bottom of the league.  Anfield is Anfield.”

... enter the dragon of Everton and post-Everton comments.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 02:55:28 AM
The Special One must be feeling a sense of ... "something special". Ah sure he eating ah hearty breakfast.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on April 22, 2014, 03:44:19 AM
David Moyes: Manchester United manager sacked by club
BBC Sport


Manchester United manager David Moyes has been sacked, only 10 months after succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson.

He was dismissed at a meeting with executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward at the club's Carrington training ground shortly after 0800 BST.

Moyes, 50, was chosen by Ferguson as the man to succeed him when he retired after 26 years in charge last summer.

United said player-coach Ryan Giggs will take charge "until a permanent appointment can be made".

His first match as interim boss will be the home game against Norwich on Saturday.

The BBC understands coaches Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden have also left their posts, but goalkeeping coach Chris Woods and first team coach Phil Neville will remain with the club for the rest of the season.
United had refused to comment on national newspaper reports  on Monday that Moyes - who left Everton to sign a six-year deal with the Premier League champions - would be dismissed before the end of the season.

But in a statement on Tuesday the club said it "would like to place on record its thanks for the hard work, honesty and integrity he brought to the role".

 Read More (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27107795)

Most unsurprising news ever? Right when he was picked by Ferguson I knew it was bad. I'm wracking my brain to find the quote that basically says that the most common failure in leaders is picking/training an heir of quality to take over... If anyone can help me on that you'll save me torturing myself over not remembering it.

Basically, it was stupid to assume that because he was a good manager that he'd be able to pick a good manager.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2014, 04:05:35 AM
:)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2014, 04:07:05 AM
The end!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 22, 2014, 05:26:06 AM
onward with a new journey
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on April 22, 2014, 05:38:52 AM
In Giggs we trust!

Lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: maxg on April 22, 2014, 07:42:01 AM
frig that i applying...ah can't care for them otherwise   :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 07:44:31 AM
So somebody explain to me why it so important to sack him NOW? Why not see out the 4 or so games and then let him go. But you sack a proper manager for Giggs to be care taker? You rather lose with Giggs, or the players say they will play for Giggs?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: weary1969 on April 22, 2014, 08:26:36 AM
Stevie Wonder saw that comin
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on April 22, 2014, 08:31:28 AM
My favourite Moyes's quote: "I don't know what we have to do to win. We played well today." - Speaking after United's 2-1 defeat to Stoke in February - their eighth loss of the campaign. Basically he is telling everyone that he doesn't have a clue about being a manager.... He also liked saying "we needed a bit of luck today"...Man.United don't play lucky football!!!

I would not have cared if they sacked him 2 days after hiring him..I was the main one in here opposing Moyes appointment.. The man clueless and lacks confidence!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 09:27:05 AM
Quote
Moyes Out as Manchester United Manager
The New York Times


In retrospect, the very first sign that David Moyes was not going to continue Alex Ferguson’s standard at Manchester United may have come before Moyes ever coached a single meaningful game.

Last August, less than two months into his tenure as Ferguson’s replacement, Moyes complained publicly about the difficult opening to United’s schedule. After seeing that the Red Devils would face Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea in three of their first five games, Moyes accused the Premier League of intentionally giving United, as defending champions, a tougher start to the slate. “I find it hard to believe that’s the way the balls came out of the bag, that’s for sure,” he said.

...

It showed weakness from Moyes right at the start, and eight months later, after a slow beginning — and slow middle and slow end — United has lost its patience with Moyes less than one season into a contract that was supposed to last six. One day after news leaked that the end was near, United officially fired Moyes on Tuesday morning.

...

It was a sharp ending to a run that began with Moyes being anointed by none other than Ferguson himself. Ferguson, who won 13 Premier League titles in his 26 years with United, was allowed to handpick his successor and settled on Moyes, whom he saw as respectful, diligent and in many ways a younger version of himself.

The problem with that was that United did not need the early version of Ferguson, who took over in 1986; rather, it needed the modern-day version of the fiery Scot, a leader who was comfortable in the searing spotlight that comes with fronting a global monolith amid excruciating expectations of success.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/sports/soccer/david-moyes-out-as-head-of-manchester-united.html?hp&_r=0
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
Quote
10 Leadership Lessons From Manchester United's Hiring And Firing Of David Moyes

Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewcave/2014/04/22/ten-leadership-lessons-from-manchester-uniteds-hiring-and-firing-of-david-moyes/

1) Don’t change the two most important people in the organisation at the same time

Sir Alex Ferguson had been manager of Manchester United for 27 years and David Gill had racked up a decade as chief executive when the duo stepped down last summer. For manager and chief executive at a football club, read chief executive and chairman at a publicly listed company. Allowing both to leave at the same time is dangerous, particularly when their combined leadership has been so successful. Where was the succession planning that didn’t let that happen? And what happened to the board’s oversight of the career decisions of its two most important executives? How many companies have lost their chairman and chief executive at exactly the same time and replaced both with great success?

2) Don’t let the last business leader choose the next one?

Sir Alex Ferguson imposed what some observers have described as a “Stalin-like grip” on Manchester United during his 27 years in charge. Very little, it is said, happened without either his direct say-so or tacit approval. But allowing the man who has had a stand named after him and a statue erected at the club’s Old Trafford stadium to effectively nominate his replacement as manager brought personal emotion, ego and self-interest into the succession, when it should have been a rational, well thought-out collective board decision. Who on the board would have dared to shoot down the suggestion of the club’s most successful manager ever? Ferguson was allowed to become much too important during his reign at the top. How many departing chief executives are allowed to select their successors?

3) Groom successors from within when you have a winning team

Ferguson’s biggest failing perhaps was not grooming a potential successor. Maybe that’s a pitfall of having a domineering, win-at-all-costs personality. But some of the most successful leadership at winning companies has taken more of a team-based approach, generating a cadre of capable lieutenants who have gone on to follow them as well as taking the helm at other companies. Groups including Procter & Gamble PG -0.37%, Dixons, Asda and the former menswear chain Burtons have served as prodigious academies of management talent. And in British football three of the 19 other managers in the Premier League served as players and/or backroom staff under Ferguson, demonstrating that the talent to groom at hand was indeed available.

4) Keep the most important support staff intact when the top jobs change

David Moyes entered the lions’ den when he took the manager’s job at Manchester United. The previous manager had won everything there was to win in a glittering career; the top players’ medal cabinets were stuffed full too. Having never won a major trophy himself as a manager, he had an instant credibility gap and needed wise heads around him who had the benefit of having been around in the glory years. Instead, he replaced the entire top coaching staff, bringing in the team that had served him at Everton. While this might have been seen as asserting his authority at the time, it left Moyes unsupported within the club and deprived the club of vital experience, know-how and continuity.

5) Appoint someone big enough for the job

Moyes has never won a major trophy as a football manager and yet he was expected to deliver more or less instantly at a club whose previous manager had won 13 Premier League titles and two European Champions Leagues. As if this was not mission impossible, his body language, demeanour and communications with the media suggested almost from the outset that he did not feel that he was up to the task.

6) Get the cultural fit right

The history of an organisation is an irrevocable part of what it is. It is almost impossible to imagine Apple AAPL -0.13% as a company full of conformists or General Electric GE +0.28% as recklessly-managed. Similarly in football, Manchester United’s history and reputation is as a dynamic and romantic team full of derring-do, adventure and attacking style. From the youthful exuberance of the “Busby Babes” in the 1950s to the swagger and pomp of Best, Charlton and Law in their prime, the club has developed a “United way”. Ferguson, a self-confessed sporting gambler, stuck to those principles. However, while Moyes spoke about a strong youth policy and the club’s fine reputation for attacking football, his actions and strategies did not match his words.

7) Manage the management’s communication

Moyes had no choice but to take the microphone after every defeat – the broadcasting contracts governing British Premier League football stipulate that the team managers are interviewed after every game. Moyes, following a master media manipulator in Ferguson, could not be expected to have his predecessor’s touch in this department. Honest and decent in his public utterances, he nonetheless needed support from his backroom staff and senior players and directors. The club’s media team could have taken a much more active role in protecting Moyes, presenting a collective front and showing support to a manager who was always going to have a tricky first year in following a legend.

8 Be decisive. Know when it’s the right time to stop the rot.

Prior to Moyes’s departure, United had a reputation for giving managers time to build teams, in contrast to some of the rapid firings seen at other top teams in the UK and Europe. Yet, it was clear that Moyes had lost the dressing room, while his comments after the team’s final performance under his management demonstrated that he didn’t have the long-term vision required.

9) Don’t let the news leak

Once the decision is made, make the announcement. Some of the momentum gained from the decisiveness United’s owners showed with their judgment that enough was enough was lost by widespread reports the day before that made Moyes’ sacking the worst-kept secret in British football. Nearly all Britain’s national newspapers led their sports pages with the news that Moyes was to be sacked, before it had been announced. While United’s listing on the New York Stock Exchange governs the timing of price-sensitive news, the leaking of the dismissal led to speculation about compensation, replacements and club strategy, when the focus could have been on a new beginning.

10) Have a credible new plan.

When an instant fix is neither credible nor desirable, at least have a plan, a process and steady temporary leadership. Appointing Ryan Giggs, United’s most decorated player in the club’s history, to take charge on a temporary basis, restores some respect to the fallen champions. Giggs is adored by fans, respected by the players and hugely liked by the sports media. With so much of the past leadership having departed, his is an obvious temporary appointment to try to arrest the team’s slide and provide some stability. Few companies, however, are likely to have somebody with his attributes waiting ready in the wings.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 09:53:12 AM
Fan calls 999 and asks to speak to SAF (http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2014/jan/23/manchester-united-fan-999-alex-ferguson-audio)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: weary1969 on April 22, 2014, 10:39:32 AM
Courtesy Palos

Following David Moyes' sacking, police have been called to quell the protests outside Old Trafford.

The Liverpool, Man City, and Chelsea fans have all been told to go home. 

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on April 22, 2014, 11:18:56 AM
The Damned United...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
So what happens when the next manager comes in and struggle, fire him too?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 22, 2014, 01:26:04 PM
My favourite Moyes's quote: "I don't know what we have to do to win. We played well today." - Speaking after United's 2-1 defeat to Stoke in February - their eighth loss of the campaign. Basically he is telling everyone that he doesn't have a clue about being a manager.... He also liked saying "we needed a bit of luck today"...Man.United don't play lucky football!!!

I would not have cared if they sacked him 2 days after hiring him..I was the main one in here opposing Moyes appointment.. The man clueless and lacks confidence!
Yeah ah have to admit you called him out whole season and I for one wanted to give him time, but as the season went on it was obvious that he was way over his head. Klopp or Van Gaal will be much better options.  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 22, 2014, 01:41:30 PM
So somebody explain to me why it so important to sack him NOW? Why not see out the 4 or so games and then let him go. But you sack a proper manager for Giggs to be care taker? You rather lose with Giggs, or the players say they will play for Giggs?
The team has to start the rebuilding process now so the sooner they clean house the better. If you want to have the opportunity  to sign the top players pre or post WC, Man-U will have to bring in a top tier coach to entice them.
I personally think they already have a deal in place with Van Gaal but it's just a matter of time before it is announced.
Also the loses to Everton or should I say the success of Everton this season was another clear indication that he was in over his head.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 22, 2014, 02:06:03 PM
So what happens when the next manager comes in and struggle, fire him too?
If necessary, but ownership and the fans will probably have more patience with and lower expectations from the next guy given the performances of this season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 22, 2014, 02:07:53 PM
So somebody explain to me why it so important to sack him NOW? Why not see out the 4 or so games and then let him go. But you sack a proper manager for Giggs to be care taker? You rather lose with Giggs, or the players say they will play for Giggs?
The team has to start the rebuilding process now so the sooner they clean house the better. If you want to have the opportunity  to sign the top players pre or post WC, Man-U will have to bring in a top tier coach to entice them.
I personally think they already have a deal in place with Van Gaal but it's just a matter of time before it is announced.
Also the loses to Everton or should I say the success of Everton this season was another clear indication that he was in over his head.

Makes me even more disappointed that we didn't get Martinez.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 22, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 22, 2014, 08:03:38 PM
Prepare for Roy Keane.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 22, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
Prepare for Roy Keane.

For what, another testimonial?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 22, 2014, 08:27:43 PM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

Which top tier teams did Moyes beat when he coached at Everton? At Man-U? How many champion league tournaments has he qualified for?
As he did with his signing of BeBe, SAF made a bad decision when he  hired  Moyes as his successor. Time for the team to move on, find someone more established and capable of righting the ship.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 23, 2014, 06:58:21 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

Dude, SAF had major titles before he came to Utd, so he had something going for him , Moyes has nothing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 08:21:36 AM
I am not alone.

LMA slams United over Moyes sacking (http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1794868/league-managers-association-slams-manchester-united-unprofessional-sacking-david-moyes?cc=5901)



The League Managers Association has branded Manchester United “unprofessional” for their treatment of David Moyes in the day before his sacking and accused them of betraying their historic values of loyalty and honesty in their handling of his exit.


And LMA chief executive Richard Bevan has criticised United in a strongly-worded denouncement of their conduct.

Bevan said in a statement: “The LMA is very disappointed with the nature of David's departure from Manchester United and to read extensive reports in the press, confirming David's sacking, before David himself had been spoken to officially by the club.   

“Throughout his time at United, David, as he always does, has conducted himself with integrity and professionalism, values that he believes in and that have been strongly associated with the club and its rich tradition. It is therefore sad to see the end of David's tenure at United being handled in an unprofessional manner.”

Moyes has been voted Manager of the Year three times by his peers and Bevan predicted he will have a bright future and believes he will succeed elsewhere in the future.

He added: “David is one of the most talented, knowledgeable and dedicated managers in British football. He has a wealth of experience accumulated in a management career that started when he was 35 and already spans 16 years, with over 800 games in the professional game.

“David is a three-time winner of the LMA Manager of the Year Award, and without a doubt, he has a significant future in front of him in football management.  He is passionate about the game and I know he possesses the drive and resilience to learn from this chapter of his career and move on to a new challenge in the game.”

 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 08:22:26 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

Dude, SAF had major titles before he came to Utd, so he had something going for him , Moyes has nothing.

And yet AF struggled when he apointed at Man United, so what's your point.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 08:23:59 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

Which top tier teams did Moyes beat when he coached at Everton? At Man-U? How many champion league tournaments has he qualified for?
As he did with his signing of BeBe, SAF made a bad decision when he  hired  Moyes as his successor. Time for the team to move on, find someone more established and capable of righting the ship.

Did Man United administration not know all of this when they hired him? Excuses. Man United has shown they stand for nothing other than wins and losses, just like every other club.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 23, 2014, 10:10:10 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

True loyalists my ass. Despite the lack of hardware, Arsenal qualifies for, and plays Champions league football every year. And that my friend is the real key. For top tier clubs like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, and ManCity, they need the extra revenue earned from playing in Europe to offset the huge salaries and transfer fees for their players. They also need the prestige of playing CL football in order to attract the top talent.

Most other clubs, Moyes probably would've been fired by Christmas. The fact that he lasted this long is a testament to the patience of both fans and management.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 23, 2014, 10:22:10 AM
I am not alone.

LMA slams United over Moyes sacking (http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1794868/league-managers-association-slams-manchester-united-unprofessional-sacking-david-moyes?cc=5901)



The League Managers Association has branded Manchester United “unprofessional” for their treatment of David Moyes in the day before his sacking and accused them of betraying their historic values of loyalty and honesty in their handling of his exit.


And LMA chief executive Richard Bevan has criticised United in a strongly-worded denouncement of their conduct.

Bevan said in a statement: “The LMA is very disappointed with the nature of David's departure from Manchester United and to read extensive reports in the press, confirming David's sacking, before David himself had been spoken to officially by the club.   

“Throughout his time at United, David, as he always does, has conducted himself with integrity and professionalism, values that he believes in and that have been strongly associated with the club and its rich tradition. It is therefore sad to see the end of David's tenure at United being handled in an unprofessional manner.”

Moyes has been voted Manager of the Year three times by his peers and Bevan predicted he will have a bright future and believes he will succeed elsewhere in the future.

He added: “David is one of the most talented, knowledgeable and dedicated managers in British football. He has a wealth of experience accumulated in a management career that started when he was 35 and already spans 16 years, with over 800 games in the professional game.

“David is a three-time winner of the LMA Manager of the Year Award, and without a doubt, he has a significant future in front of him in football management.  He is passionate about the game and I know he possesses the drive and resilience to learn from this chapter of his career and move on to a new challenge in the game.”

But this has absolutely nothing to do with your previous post!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 23, 2014, 10:31:51 AM
The firing was handled in an indelicate manner. This was somewhat the product of having been hesitant to pull the trigger earlier; however, the indelicate outcome was essentially inevitable ... the alternative would have been keeping him in the gig while "silently" looking for his successor behind his back ... unless they were willing to tell him, and he was willing to hold de fort temporarily ... but what would that have done to further eroding morale and confidence amongst stakeholders?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 23, 2014, 11:42:33 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

True loyalists my ass. Despite the lack of hardware, Arsenal qualifies for, and plays Champions league football every year. And that my friend is the real key. For top tier clubs like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, and ManCity, they need the extra revenue earned from playing in Europe to offset the huge salaries and transfer fees for their players. They also need the prestige of playing CL football in order to attract the top talent.

Most other clubs, Moyes probably would've been fired by Christmas. The fact that he lasted this long is a testament to the patience of both fans and management.

You, as most people keep forgetting things that were going on around Moyes. It seems that Moyes was never really in charge, from his own short-comings or from the administration.

Quote
1) Don’t change the two most important people in the organisation at the same time

Sir Alex Ferguson had been manager of Manchester United for 27 years and David Gill had racked up a decade as chief executive when the duo stepped down last summer. For manager and chief executive at a football club, read chief executive and chairman at a publicly listed company. Allowing both to leave at the same time is dangerous, particularly when their combined leadership has been so successful. Where was the succession planning that didn’t let that happen? And what happened to the board’s oversight of the career decisions of its two most important executives? How many companies have lost their chairman and chief executive at exactly the same time and replaced both with great success?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on April 23, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

Which top tier teams did Moyes beat when he coached at Everton? At Man-U? How many champion league tournaments has he qualified for?
As he did with his signing of BeBe, SAF made a bad decision when he  hired  Moyes as his successor. Time for the team to move on, find someone more established and capable of righting the ship.

Did Man United administration not know all of this when they hired him? Excuses. Man United has shown they stand for nothing other than wins and losses, just like every other club.

I think you're being a little bit unfair (and I'm an ABU guy!) - it's hard to argue that anyone else without Ferguson's backing would have lasted this long. He inherited a title-winning team, strengthened it with a huge signing in Mata, and can't even guarantee Europa League football. Top teams have higher standards - it's as if he went to a multi-national company earning billions in profit and managed to make a loss in his first 10 months. He was given tens of millions of pounds to strengthen the side, and his acquisitions have been disasters - Fellani for 30 million?

Bluntly, he didn't do much right :(, and the collective failures damned him. The league position was the culmination of those.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 24, 2014, 07:29:36 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

True loyalists my ass. Despite the lack of hardware, Arsenal qualifies for, and plays Champions league football every year. And that my friend is the real key. For top tier clubs like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, and ManCity, they need the extra revenue earned from playing in Europe to offset the huge salaries and transfer fees for their players. They also need the prestige of playing CL football in order to attract the top talent.

Most other clubs, Moyes probably would've been fired by Christmas. The fact that he lasted this long is a testament to the patience of both fans and management.

You, as most people keep forgetting things that were going on around Moyes. It seems that Moyes was never really in charge, from his own short-comings or from the administration.

Quote
1) Don’t change the two most important people in the organisation at the same time

Sir Alex Ferguson had been manager of Manchester United for 27 years and David Gill had racked up a decade as chief executive when the duo stepped down last summer. For manager and chief executive at a football club, read chief executive and chairman at a publicly listed company. Allowing both to leave at the same time is dangerous, particularly when their combined leadership has been so successful. Where was the succession planning that didn’t let that happen? And what happened to the board’s oversight of the career decisions of its two most important executives? How many companies have lost their chairman and chief executive at exactly the same time and replaced both with great success?

Once again ah not seeing any correlation between the quote and yuh statement.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 24, 2014, 10:26:09 AM
So where all the talk about tradition? As a Chelsea fan I have/had to endure our lack of patience with managers. Yet the first chance Man United get to show that they believe in tradition and developing (continue) a dynasty they like any other club fired the manager. It - to me -showed that they may have gotten lucky with Ferguson, who happened to work out. Moyes has shown the he may be up to the task, though the learning curve is/was steep. How about showing belief in their supposedly "beliefs" and really give Moyes a chance? SAF a one off, that's all that is.

Arsenal has shown that they are the true loyalist amongst all the talkers. Season after season with less than stellar results and still they persist with Wenger.

True loyalists my ass. Despite the lack of hardware, Arsenal qualifies for, and plays Champions league football every year. And that my friend is the real key. For top tier clubs like ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, and ManCity, they need the extra revenue earned from playing in Europe to offset the huge salaries and transfer fees for their players. They also need the prestige of playing CL football in order to attract the top talent.

Most other clubs, Moyes probably would've been fired by Christmas. The fact that he lasted this long is a testament to the patience of both fans and management.

You, as most people keep forgetting things that were going on around Moyes. It seems that Moyes was never really in charge, from his own short-comings or from the administration.

Quote
1) Don’t change the two most important people in the organisation at the same time

Sir Alex Ferguson had been manager of Manchester United for 27 years and David Gill had racked up a decade as chief executive when the duo stepped down last summer. For manager and chief executive at a football club, read chief executive and chairman at a publicly listed company. Allowing both to leave at the same time is dangerous, particularly when their combined leadership has been so successful. Where was the succession planning that didn’t let that happen? And what happened to the board’s oversight of the career decisions of its two most important executives? How many companies have lost their chairman and chief executive at exactly the same time and replaced both with great success?

Once again ah not seeing any correlation between the quote and yuh statement.

Then stop reading with yuh eyes closed. Doh worry Man United is the pinnacle of decency and tradition. This was level  :bs: by Man United, but everyone hanging Moyes out to dry. How many people said this was not a good fit, but yet they still persisted because Ferguson is all knowing.

Another flop by AF, but they not running that in the media though as this is all on Moyes.

But yeah Moyes is shyte   ::)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: fari on April 24, 2014, 07:45:01 PM
i want to see who the next coach is...giggs will bring the feel good factor but for how long?   on talksport they talking about the class of 92 as if they is some band of gunslingers riding into town to shoot the injuns :D      van gaal will be good, but he ent available until july, klopp ruled himself out, charlton ent want mourinho, pep good at bayern but i feel if he win the cl and the dfb-pokal he might feel he need new challenges...and trust me, that man u job is a big challenge b/c is real players need replacing.  getting in shaw and perhaps cavani will be a good start
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 25, 2014, 06:17:31 AM
lol, dey really say how the fans of Chelsea, Liverpool and City were the happiest at Moyes Hiring and the most upset by his firing..
I wonder why?>
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2014, 09:45:07 AM
lol, dey really say how the fans of Chelsea, Liverpool and City were the happiest at Moyes Hiring and the most upset by his firing..
I wonder why?>

Who upset?

I just point out Man United Hypocrisy. We beating Man United inspite of the Manager.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 25, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
i want to see who the next coach is...giggs will bring the feel good factor but for how long?   on talksport they talking about the class of 92 as if they is some band of gunslingers riding into town to shoot the injuns :D      van gaal will be good, but he ent available until july, klopp ruled himself out, charlton ent want mourinho, pep good at bayern but i feel if he win the cl and the dfb-pokal he might feel he need new challenges...and trust me, that man u job is a big challenge b/c is real players need replacing.  getting in shaw and perhaps cavani will be a good start
It was just recently revealed that SAF want the new coach to be hired for a three year period and then Giggs wil take over. This will not end well and I there will be serious turmoil for years to come. I now understand why Jose was not hired because this class of 92 would have been put in check.
As for Klopp, he is saying the right things, by showing loyalty to BVB, but I think in a subtle way he is asking the Glazers 'How all yuh eh call me yet?"
BVB has become and will continue to be feeder system for Bayern which actually exemplifies Klopp's coaching ability.
Van Gaal is a good choice, but I think Klopp's age, ability and charisma will be a perfect fit for Man-U.

On a side note, if the class of 92 throwing dey hat in the coaching ring, I wonder why  Yorke eh do the same.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 25, 2014, 11:19:24 AM
Fergie should be happy his continued input has been "entertained" ...   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 25, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
i want to see who the next coach is...giggs will bring the feel good factor but for how long?   on talksport they talking about the class of 92 as if they is some band of gunslingers riding into town to shoot the injuns :D      van gaal will be good, but he ent available until july, klopp ruled himself out, charlton ent want mourinho, pep good at bayern but i feel if he win the cl and the dfb-pokal he might feel he need new challenges...and trust me, that man u job is a big challenge b/c is real players need replacing.  getting in shaw and perhaps cavani will be a good start
It was just recently revealed that SAF want the new coach to be hired for a three year period and then Giggs wil take over. This will not end well and I there will be serious turmoil for years to come. I now understand why Jose was not hired because this class of 92 would have been put in check.
As for Klopp, he is saying the right things, by showing loyalty to BVB, but I think in a subtle way he is asking the Glazers 'How all yuh eh call me yet?"
BVB has become and will continue to be feeder system for Bayern which actually exemplifies Klopp's coaching ability.
Van Gaal is a good choice, but I think Klopp's age, ability and charisma will be a perfect fit for Man-U.

On a side note, if the class of 92 throwing dey hat in the coaching ring, I wonder why  Yorke eh do the same.

You wondering why?

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 26, 2014, 01:28:49 PM
 :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:

Players looked happy, giggs looked happy, fans are happy...

onward to the next game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 27, 2014, 05:56:35 PM
Klopp is a nice fit...but he eh moving just so.


Van Gaal....well.....i'd give him a year. He and REAL people go fall out.

Bielsa would be interesting....but not likely.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
What if Simeone comes and brings his talents along ?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 28, 2014, 10:51:22 AM
Klopp is a nice fit...but he eh moving just so.


Van Gaal....well.....i'd give him a year. He and REAL people go fall out.

Bielsa would be interesting....but not likely.

Rumors circulation that if PeP lose to Real this week he may not return and Ancelloti's job maybe in limbo without any trophies this year. So they may also be viable options to consider.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on April 28, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
Klopp is a nice fit...but he eh moving just so.


Van Gaal....well.....i'd give him a year. He and REAL people go fall out.

Bielsa would be interesting....but not likely.

Rumors circulation that if PeP lose to Real this week he may not return and Ancelloti's job maybe in limbo without any trophies this year. So they may also be viable options to consider.
Yea no need to rush and sign anyone just yet. Wait till the European league's are done and see what transpires and who's available.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Touches on April 29, 2014, 08:58:24 AM
Hi guys,

Just popping in to see how things are going...keep up the good work.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 29, 2014, 09:21:56 AM
Giggs to be the new Pep......    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on April 29, 2014, 09:30:58 AM
Giggs to be the new Pep......    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
LOL Giggs need to get his badges first and establish himself as a coach, maybe be on the staff as an assistant. I read some blogs with ppl talking like Giggs is going to be the savior for next season and class of '94 and the future in good hands.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on April 29, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
'Giggs can be the next Guardiola' (http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1801608/manchester-united-coach-ryan-giggs-next-pep-guardiola-say-players?cc=5901)


Ryan Giggs delivered a “spine-tingling” team talk before his debut as interim Manchester United manager, according to goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard. The speach was reminiscent of Sir Alex Ferguson, said Lindegaard, who believes the interim manager has the potential to become the new Pep Guardiola.


Ryan Giggs' impressive debut vs. Norwich has some asking if he can be the next great manager at Manchester United.
Lindegaard was named on the bench for Giggs’ first game in caretaker charge and said he was inspired by the words the 40-year-old Welshman spoke to his players before Saturday’s 4-0 win over Norwich. He is convinced that Giggs, who played under Ferguson for 22 years, has many of the traits of the retired Scot.

“Ryan Giggs has always held a kind of professional distance to his team-mates,” said Lindegaard in his column with Betfair.com.dk. “He opened his mouth, when it was relevant, and people have always listened.


“What we have seen in the first week has been more than convincing and the parallels with Sir Alex Ferguson are striking. It is clear that Ryan Giggs has been learning from history's most awe-inspiring football manager."

Guardiola is the rare case of a manager who was appointed by a major club without serving an apprenticeship elsewhere. Lindegaard believes Giggs, who has made 962 appearances for United but has never served as manager, could emulate the former Barcelona leader who now is the boss at Bundesliga power Bayern Munich.

“It probably sounds rather naive and impetuous, and I understand people's scepticism about any conclusion drawn from the results of four workouts, a game and a day off, but to me we are dealing with a new Guardiola," said Lindegaard, who believes the 40-year-old has the ability to go from being a player to the manager without causing problems in the dressing room.

“Some might question whether it can work to go from being a team-mate to the manager from one day to the next," said the Dane. "Normally, I have my reservations, but in Giggs' case, it is another matter.”

Meanwhile, Juan Mata, who scored twice against Norwich, has thanked former manager David Moyes for bringing him to Old Trafford. The Spaniard became United’s record signing when he joined from Chelsea in January for 37.1 million pounds.

Mata wrote in his blog of Moyes, “I wish him and his technical staff the best of luck in the future, and I do thank him for his continuous interest in me and his importance during my transfer to become a Manchester United player.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 29, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
Giggs to be the new Pep......    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
LOL Giggs need to get his badges first and establish himself as a coach, maybe be on the staff as an assistant. I read some blogs with ppl talking like Giggs is going to be the savior for next season and class of '94 and the future in good hands.

He's in an advanced stage of completing the Pro Licence.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 29, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
'Giggs can be the next Guardiola' (http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1801608/manchester-united-coach-ryan-giggs-next-pep-guardiola-say-players?cc=5901)


Ryan Giggs delivered a “spine-tingling” team talk before his debut as interim Manchester United manager, according to goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard. The speach was reminiscent of Sir Alex Ferguson, said Lindegaard, who believes the interim manager has the potential to become the new Pep Guardiola.


Ryan Giggs' impressive debut vs. Norwich has some asking if he can be the next great manager at Manchester United.
Lindegaard was named on the bench for Giggs’ first game in caretaker charge and said he was inspired by the words the 40-year-old Welshman spoke to his players before Saturday’s 4-0 win over Norwich. He is convinced that Giggs, who played under Ferguson for 22 years, has many of the traits of the retired Scot.

“Ryan Giggs has always held a kind of professional distance to his team-mates,” said Lindegaard in his column with Betfair.com.dk. “He opened his mouth, when it was relevant, and people have always listened.


“What we have seen in the first week has been more than convincing and the parallels with Sir Alex Ferguson are striking. It is clear that Ryan Giggs has been learning from history's most awe-inspiring football manager."

Guardiola is the rare case of a manager who was appointed by a major club without serving an apprenticeship elsewhere. Lindegaard believes Giggs, who has made 962 appearances for United but has never served as manager, could emulate the former Barcelona leader who now is the boss at Bundesliga power Bayern Munich.

“It probably sounds rather naive and impetuous, and I understand people's scepticism about any conclusion drawn from the results of four workouts, a game and a day off, but to me we are dealing with a new Guardiola," said Lindegaard, who believes the 40-year-old has the ability to go from being a player to the manager without causing problems in the dressing room.

“Some might question whether it can work to go from being a team-mate to the manager from one day to the next," said the Dane. "Normally, I have my reservations, but in Giggs' case, it is another matter.”

Meanwhile, Juan Mata, who scored twice against Norwich, has thanked former manager David Moyes for bringing him to Old Trafford. The Spaniard became United’s record signing when he joined from Chelsea in January for 37.1 million pounds.

Mata wrote in his blog of Moyes, “I wish him and his technical staff the best of luck in the future, and I do thank him for his continuous interest in me and his importance during my transfer to become a Manchester United player.”

One good outing against a side that's lost what 6, 7 games in a row and they already ready to call him the second coming... SMH. Will they never learn?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 29, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
... won't be long before he manages Wales.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on April 29, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
Note to the Glazers. Stay as far away as  possible from PeP because Tikki Takka will not be tolerated at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on April 30, 2014, 08:16:26 AM
Note to the Glazers. Stay as far away as  possible from PeP because Tikki Takka will not be tolerated at Old Trafford.

DAMN RITE!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 01, 2014, 07:12:03 PM
Louis van Gaal will be confirmed as Manchester United’s new boss next week, Fox Sports News understands
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/louis-van-gaal-will-be-confirmed-as-manchester-uniteds-new-boss-next-week-fox-sports-news-understands/story-e6frf4a3-1226901922112
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 03, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
Fire Giggs!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 03, 2014, 12:27:53 PM
Fire Giggs!!!

lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 03, 2014, 02:20:18 PM
Waaaay
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on May 03, 2014, 03:20:57 PM
Moyes is useless!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 03, 2014, 03:49:27 PM
'The the new Pep Guardiola'... Hmmmmm
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 03, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
So Giggs saying the same thing Moyes say and everyone quiet.

Giggs: Players were flat (http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1807799/players-were-flat-know-why?cc=5901)

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Manchester United interim manager Ryan Giggs rues his side's lack of quality in the final third after their 1-nil defeat by Sunderland.
Ryan Giggs admitted he was at a loss to explain why Manchester United produced such a "flat" performance as Sunderland won at Old Trafford for the first time since 1968.

United slumped to a first defeat of interim manager Giggs' spell in caretaker charge after Sebastian Larsson scored a 30th minute winner that took the Black Cats to the brink of securing safety.

Giggs, who had beaten Norwich 4-0 in his first game in charge, was bemused by United's poor display against Sunderland.

"I still believe there is quality in the dressing room," he said in a news conference. "We showed that last week but just didn't this. The players were flat and I don't know why."

"In the first half we got some decent crosses in, and just didn't get enough people in the box. In the second half we had all the possession and just couldn't find that key pass or bit of quality to get us back in the game. I am sure if we scored one we would have gone on to score more."

It was United's seventh home league defeat of the season, a fate they had not suffered since 1973-74, when they were relegated, and Giggs could not account for their struggles at Old Trafford.

"We have shown good form away from home but at Old Trafford it seems to have been a problem," he added. "In past seasons, there would be waves and waves of shots and saves and you could always sense a goal was coming but this season it doesn't seem to have happened."

Sunderland have taken 10 points from their last four games, including a draw away at Manchester City and wins at Chelsea and United and manager Gus Poyet hailed them for a "unique" achievement after he claimed they had needed a miracle.

"What we have done in the last four games is unique, incredible," he said. "A miracle was the word I used a few weeks ago and apparently every now and again it happens."

Given their goal difference, Sunderland, who still have home games against West Brom and Swansea, could be safe on Sunday, should Norwich lose to Chelsea.

"Now it will be a shame if we don't stay up," Poyet added. "It would be crazy to lose this opportunity."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 03, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
Nobody will dare say wrong about Giggs.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 03, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
The team need rebuilding simple as that
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 03, 2014, 08:47:59 PM
The team need rebuilding simple as that

Yep.

These guys are professionals ... failure to deliver a quality final ball (as occurred numerous times during this game) is more than a training ground problem. There seems to also be a crisis of confidence, Norwich aside. Also, yuh could see all kind of glaringly available entry passes going unplayed due to a lack of assertiveness (and perhaps, slow movement of the ball).

Januzaj and De Gea ... I'll take those ... the rest need a bush bath.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 03, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
So what about Moyes then?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 04, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
The team need rebuilding simple as that

Yep.

These guys are professionals ... failure to deliver a quality final ball (as occurred numerous times during this game) is more than a training ground problem. There seems to also be a crisis of confidence, Norwich aside. Also, yuh could see all kind of glaringly available entry passes going unplayed due to a lack of assertiveness (and perhaps, slow movement of the ball).

Januzaj and De Gea ... I'll take those ... the rest need a bush bath.

The Glaciers better make sure their pocket fat for Transfer time. Time to say goodbye to them old fellas yes. I hope the new coach come in and clean house
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 04, 2014, 12:15:28 PM
So what about Moyes then?
what about him? He's gone, good riddance!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2014, 01:42:32 AM
So what about Moyes then?

Moyes is a seasoned manager; Giggs is embarking on a fast-tracked managerial career ... but I take your point. However, I don't think the club directorate expected Moyes' departure to remedy the rot. They wanted to alleviate it and position the club to move forward.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 05, 2014, 08:20:19 AM
So Giggs saying the same thing Moyes say and everyone quiet.

Giggs: Players were flat (http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1807799/players-were-flat-know-why?cc=5901)

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Seriously? What did you expect, given that he's the interim manager? He's not supposed to be the answer. He's simply holding an end until they can hire someone to take over. So if he says the same thing as the guy who just got fired who cares?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 05, 2014, 10:25:12 AM
So then the problem is the Administration then? The admin don't have the ability to select a quality manager? Excuses in one setting, but not another?

See my thing is - according to many - Man United is a big club. So, do they just get a pass on this mock-up? It seems that everyone is just shrugging their shoulders, like whatever. Where's the inquiries, the panels, the ceaseless opinions from the pundits, where have they disappeared to?

Should a big club put in place a stop-gap measure? Especially knowing that they were going to get rid of Moyes? If getting rid of Moyes was not an attempt to stop the rot, then be true to their "philosophy" and at least let him finish the season while securing a proper manager.

Just my thought.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 05, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
So then the problem is the Administration then? The admin don't have the ability to select a quality manager? Excuses in one setting, but not another?

See my thing is - according to many - Man United is a big club. So, do they just get a pass on this mock-up? It seems that everyone is just shrugging their shoulders, like whatever. Where's the inquiries, the panels, the ceaseless opinions from the pundits, where have they disappeared to?

Should a big club put in place a stop-gap measure? Especially knowing that they were going to get rid of Moyes? If getting rid of Moyes was not an attempt to stop the rot, then be true to their "philosophy" and at least let him finish the season while securing a proper manager.

Just my thought.

I understand your sentiment, but there are a few things to ponder. This is a WC year so you will want to have your new manager in place so that he has an opportunity to start the rebuilding process. A player's value or cost may increase with a good showing during the summer tournament. So essentially, if you can sign a Kroos for 30 mil now, instead of waiting until after the tournament when his price tag may skyrocket. You will increase your chances of building a competitive team for the upcoming season.
I also think the management started the season preparations a bit later than expected last year, so with a new manager in place things can be ahead of scheduled.
If Giggs is not slated as the long term answer, there is no need to wait until the season ends to see what he can do.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 06, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
Giggs just couldn't resist... man warming up to come on for his last Old Trafford swansong.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 06, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
Giggs just couldn't resist... man warming up to come on for his last Old Trafford swansong.
He's the interim coach so he can select himself whenever his heart desires ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 07, 2014, 05:49:49 AM
Good bye Vidic
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 12, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
In the words of Kobe Bryant "S*** season. Flush it. Forget it #amnesia"
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on May 12, 2014, 11:40:08 AM
Luke Shaw according to the reports in England will become a United player before the World Cup after United bid £27m for him

Would be an excellent signing....one of the top left backs in world football at 18. Will give you 10-15 quality years in a specialist position
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on May 12, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
Luke Shaw according to the reports in England will become a United player before the World Cup after United bid £27m for him

Would be an excellent signing....one of the top left backs in world England football at 18. Will give you 10-15 quality years in a specialist position
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 13, 2014, 07:03:36 AM
Farewell Rio wishing you all the best in your future endeavors

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2014/05/12/4814023/ferdinand-to-leave-manchester-united?ICID=CP_97
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on May 13, 2014, 07:14:01 AM
Farewell Rio wishing you all the best in your future endeavors

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2014/05/12/4814023/ferdinand-to-leave-manchester-united?ICID=CP_97

Would love to see him play a charity match in Saint Lucia to help sport over there
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Reaper2004 on May 19, 2014, 08:59:41 AM
Thanks for EVERYTHING Giggsy!!!

Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, running down the wing
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, running down the wing
Fear by the blues
Loved by the reds,
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs

(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10277661_10152496274123128_7626059979728627433_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10371711_10152496276528128_7850043701707086079_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10330466_10152184512417746_4709848844782229394_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 19, 2014, 09:31:38 AM
Initially struck by the fact that Giggs doesn't have more caps for Wales given his longevity in the game ... but, upon reflection, thought dahis club over country business.

Wales has produced some quality talent, albeit not ever in the same generation?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: weary1969 on May 19, 2014, 11:33:28 AM
All yuh gone Dutch.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on May 19, 2014, 11:52:06 AM
Thanks for EVERYTHING Giggsy!!!

Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, running down the wing
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, running down the wing
Fear by the blues
Loved by the reds,
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs

Always been a fan... great servant to the Club and to the game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 19, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
All yuh gone Dutch.

In the Dutch we trust lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2014, 04:10:47 AM
Toni Kroos. Bayern to Man United

37mill
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on May 22, 2014, 05:46:16 AM
Manchester United seal £20m deal for Toni Kroos as Louis van Gaal gives his approval... and new Old Trafford boss now sets sights on Arjen Robben

United have agreed a deal for Bayern Munich midfielder Kroos

The Red Devils are now set to make a move for Robben

United are understood to have agreed a £27m deal for Luke Shaw

Borussia Dortmund's Mats Hummels is one of Louis van Gaal's targets

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2635533/Manchester-United-seal-20m-deal-Toni-Kroos-Louis-van-Gaal-gives-approval-new-Old-Trafford-boss-sets-sights-Arjen-Robben.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on May 22, 2014, 06:22:13 AM
nice nice
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on May 22, 2014, 07:01:23 AM
allyuh aint easy


can we hav a cheap nani please?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on May 22, 2014, 09:27:05 AM
Toni Kroos. Bayern to Man United

37mill


Not sure if this is true as yet, because The Guardian is reporting something else.




Louis van Gaal ends Manchester United’s interest in Toni Kroos
• New manager decides against pursuing midfielder
• Bayern Munich star had been long-term target of David Moyes



http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/22/louis-van-gaal-ends-manchester-united-interest-toni-kroos-bayern-munich

Louis van Gaal has ended Manchester United’s interest in Toni Kroos, in what represents the new manager’s first major decision regarding the rebuilding of his squad this summer.
The Bayern Munich midfielder had been pursued by David Moyes, Van Gaal’s predecessor, with the 24-year-old identified as being able to help solve the deficit in United’s central midfield department.

Kroos, who impressed in a deep-lying role when Bayern knocked United out of last season’s Champions League, has only a year left to run on his contract at the German club.

Yet despite his ability to also play in the No10 role or as box-to-box midfielder, Van Gaal, who is aware of Kroos’s abilities from his own time managing Bayern, has decided he should not be a target for the club this close season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 22, 2014, 09:47:24 AM
allyuh aint easy


can we hav a cheap nani please?

Daiz AIDS!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on May 22, 2014, 02:57:29 PM
Doh take the shake...

Toni Kroos no longer a target for United
May 22, 2014
http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1829741/manchester-united-no-longer-trying-sign-bayern-munich-star-toni-kroos?cc=5901

By Richard Jolly


Manchester United are no longer trying to sign Toni Kroos after new manager Louis van Gaal decided to pursue other targets, a club source has told ESPN FC.

The Germany international midfielder was wanted at Old Trafford by former manager David Moyes, who scouted him extensively.

But Van Gaal, who managed Kroos during his reign in charge of Bayern Munich, will not bid for the 24-year-old.

The 62-year-old Dutchman inherited a list of targets from Moyes, who revamped United's scouting system and compiled short and long lists of players to try and sign this summer.

Moyes, who said United needed a "fundamental rebuilding" of the squad this summer, was eager to strengthen in the centre of midfield and Van Gaal is also expected to sign in that department.

Kroos, whose passing game has made him a key member of Bayern's team, was identified as a potential target because his current contract with Die Roten will expire in 2015.

Bayern manager Pep Guardiola has suggested he is keen to keep Kroos and the club are eager to offer him an extended deal.

But the Bundesliga champions have also warned Kroos that they will not be held to ransom, with president Karl Hopfner telling kicker: "We will not overstep certain financial limits."

Kroos responded to Hopfner's quotes later on Thursday, telling Bild he had expected the club to make such comments.

"I have to accept and respect it," he said. "But, honestly, I had expected nothing else when I turned down the club's offer earlier this year."

Officials with the German national team have stated that they do not want Kroos' contract situation to interfere with his World Cup preparations.

Van Gaal has also been linked with Roma midfielder Kevin Strootman, a player he knows from his time managing Holland, and Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas, who was wanted by Moyes last summer.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on May 28, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Manchester United owner Malcolm Glazer dies

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the American football club which he owned since 1995, announced the news on its website.

It said it was "saddened" to announce Mr Glazer had passed away this morning at the age of 85.


His death was announced by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
He leaves behind his wife Linda, six children and 14 grandchildren.

Mr Glazer, who lived in Palm Beach, Florida, bought Manchester United in 2005.

Since then, the football club won five Premier League titles (2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2013), as well as the 2008 Champions League title.

The Buccaneers described him as a "pioneering thinker" and "dynamic business leader" who "rebuilt the Buccaneers into a model franchise and a Super Bowl winner".

It added: "Known among his league peers as a pioneering thinker, Glazer infused his team and employees with the determination and dedication to be the best in the NFL.

"Glazer's commitment to building a championship organisation has provided the foundation for continued success, on and off the field."
http://news.sky.com/story/1270908/manchester-united-owner-malcolm-glazer-dies
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 28, 2014, 03:47:55 PM
Imagine buying a club like Man United at age 76.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 30, 2014, 05:35:38 AM
Quote
Scholes was brought back to United as a coach under the interim manager, Ryan Giggs, for the last four matches of the season. But with Van Gaal now the permanent manager and Giggs his No2, Scholes, along with Phil Neville and Nicky Butt, who had each also assisted the Welshman, have yet to have any official clarification regarding their future.

Scholes, though, who won 11 titles with United, is convinced he will not be asked to continue at the club. “I’ve not spoken to Edward Woodward. I came back for Ryan Giggs for the last few games of last season to try to help out but I’m not waiting for a phone call and don’t expect to be at United next season.”

The 39-year-old then offered the first public criticism of Woodward, who oversaw United’s disastrous summer in the transfer market. “David Moyes took a lot of stick, but I believe he’s a top manager. I’d question if 10 months was enough time [before he was sacked],” Scholes told Paddy Power Blog. “Edward Woodward has an awful lot to prove this time that he’s good enough at his job. He has to bring the players in that the new manager wants. It’s obvious that last year he didn’t manage to do that. If he doesn’t we are not going to get anywhere near the top.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/22/paul-scholes-criticises-manchester-united-wayne-rooney

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 03, 2014, 04:22:42 AM
Rumour Suarez to United. Sounds like shit.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 03, 2014, 09:34:53 AM
Rumour Suarez to United. Sounds like shit.

Just reading that and was shaking my head.  They really feel we would sell to them?  Anyways, that is probably stuff to sell newspapers.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 16, 2014, 04:07:53 AM
Thomas Vermaelen to United
?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10902101/Arsenal-captain-Thomas-Vermaelen-agrees-deal-to-join-Manchester-United-this-summer.html
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 23, 2014, 08:24:45 PM
Man United pay Ander Herrera’s €36m buy-out clause, done deal according to Cadena Ser

http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/man-united-pay-ander-herreras-e36m-buy-out-clause-done-deal-according-to-cadena-ser/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on June 25, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
Man United pay Ander Herrera’s €36m buy-out clause, done deal according to Cadena Ser

http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/man-united-pay-ander-herreras-e36m-buy-out-clause-done-deal-according-to-cadena-ser/


A year overdue.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on June 26, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
Add Luke Shaw to the list. Two confirmed


http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/luke-shaw-medical-manchester-united-move-southampton
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on July 04, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Oh geeeeed!!!! Man U need to give back the money they got for this new kit deal...


(http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9583806.ece/alternates/w620/kit-main.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 04, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
What the fawk
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 04, 2014, 08:55:26 PM
Heard that Adidas close to a deal to replace Nike when the contract expire in 2015
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on July 06, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Report: Manchester United set to make £65 million transfer offer for James Rodriguez

http://www.thescore.com/epl/news/533301

It’s claimed that the club will offer £65million for Rodriguez and are prepared to included lucrative bonuses which could take the final figure for the starlet to over £90million.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/05/manchester-united-set-to-launch-65million-transfer-offer-for-james-rodriguez-4787591/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on July 06, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
Not going to happen.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on July 06, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
diehard those are nowhere near reputable sources. especially metro. and more than likely they quote other non reputable sources.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on July 24, 2014, 11:05:41 AM
Van Gaal off to a good start...
Quote
Man Utd beat LA Galaxy: Louis van Gaal off to winning start
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28423344

...and making changes already.
Quote
Louis van Gaal: Manchester United 'not balanced', says new manager
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28460394
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on July 30, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
Went to see Manu v Inter at FedEx stadium in Maryland. 61 thousand. Kinder boring game. Manu dominated. But not convincingly. I guess is summer tour and some are jet lagged. Manu next game in at U michigan vs Real. Vidic playing for Inter was kind of strange. Manu won 5-4 on penalties.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 11, 2014, 12:54:07 PM
Manchester United Loan Henriquez to Dinamo Zagreb

ZAGREB — Manchester United have loaned Chile striker Angelo Henriquez to Dinamo Zagreb who have the option of making the move permanent at the end of the season, the Croatian champions said on their website.

"I am delighted to have joined Dinamo and I really want to make an impact here, primarily to help the club qualify for the Europa League group stage," Henriquez, who scored two goals in three international appearances, said on Monday.

"This is the right club for me at this stage of my career," added the 20-year old, who spent the last two seasons on loan at Wigan Athletic and Spanish side Zaragoza after joining United from Universidad de Chile in 2012.

Henriquez caught United’s attention after scoring 21 goals in 17 games for Chile’s Under-21 side, having also won two league titles and the Copa Sudamericana with Universidad, but has never got a look-in at Old Trafford.

He was an unused substitute in Wigan’s shock 1-0 win over Manchester City in the 2013 FA Cup final.

Dinamo meet Romanian side Petrolul Ploiesti in the Europa League’s two-legged playoff round.

(Source: New York Times; writing by Zoran Milosavljevic in Belgrade; editing by Mark Meadows)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 13, 2014, 11:12:54 AM
Sooooo..........Luke Shaw out for a month. Who's y'all stud CB again?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on August 16, 2014, 08:27:09 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10599720_10154646175535727_2547026093387631226_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 16, 2014, 09:26:55 AM
 :whistling:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 19, 2014, 02:07:45 PM
Nani joins Sporting Lisbon on loan (http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/1993091/nani-joins-sporting-lisbon-on-loan)



Sporting Lisbon have announced that Nani has rejoined the club on a season-long loan, while defender Marcos Rojo is set to sign for Manchester United.

The Portuguese club announced on their Twitter feed that Argentina defender Rojo, 24, would be leaving, while Nani would arrive back at the club he left in 2007.

The club also explained that part of the fee, nine million euros, for Rojo will go towards a construction project -- building their new indoor arena, the Pavilhao.


Rojo, who announced he would be leaving in an interview, will cost 20 million euros and Sporting will receive 20 percent of the profits if United sell him on for more than 23 million euros. He will become United's third major signing of the summer after Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera.

United confirmed the deal by tweeting: "£mufc has reached agreement with Sporting Lisbon to sign defender Marcos Rojo, subject to a medical and personal terms. A further announcement will be made when the process is complete.''

United turned to the Argentina international after accepting defeat in their attempts to sign Dortmund's Mats Hummels and Thomas Vermaelen, who joined Barcelona.

The Old Trafford club have been short of defenders after the summer departures of Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra and manager Louis van Gaal's decision to switch to a formation that requires three centre-backs.

The Dutchman had to give 20-year-old Tyler Blackett a debut in Saturday's defeat to Swansea but the left-sided Rojo is likely to take his place.

Nani came off the bench against Swansea but will be allowed to leave for the season to rejoin his former club. The winger has scored 40 goals in 228 games for United since leaving Sporting in 2007.

But while he was given a lucrative five-year deal last September, he has struggled in the last two seasons.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 21, 2014, 10:10:49 AM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28883329
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Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria tells club he wants to leave

Argentina winger Angel Di Maria has told Real Madrid he wants to leave the La Liga club.

Di Maria has been linked with a move to Manchester United, with manager Louis van Gaal reportedly keen to take the 26-year-old to Old Trafford.

Would be nice if we could get him but I'm more worried about the defence at this point, though Rojo was a nice addition.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 21, 2014, 05:34:15 PM
We need players. Good ones
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 24, 2014, 10:28:32 AM
It wasn't a penalty, but it wasn't a dive... riiight.  :yellowcard:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 24, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
It wasn't a penalty, but it wasn't a dive... riiight.  :yellowcard:

Wasn't a dive... there was ample contact to justify a penalty, except the ball was going away from goal and it would have been harsh.  That should have been a play-on... not the contact on Van Persie a few seconds earlier.  Good tackle by Vergini on the ball, but RVP seemed to have been clipped by Cattermole just split-second before.  Fair result either way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 24, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll314/Chunkycj/Screenshot7_zps50857b02.png) (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/Chunkycj/media/Screenshot7_zps50857b02.png.html)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 24, 2014, 01:15:14 PM
SMFH.........who doing business for Man United?


Man United agree Angel Di Maria fee (http://www.espnfc.us/story/2000968/manchester-united-and-real-madrid-agree-angel-di-maria-fee)


FC's Craig Burley analyses where Angel Di Maria will fit in to Manchester United's squad should he sign.
Manchester United and Real Madrid have finally agreed a fee for Angel Di Maria's pending move to Old Trafford, sources in Spain have told ESPN FC.


The English side will pay 75 million euros upfront, with up to 15 million euros of add-ons and incentives attached, split into three potential payments of five million euros.

ESPN FC was informed by the Spanish sources that, with the way the deal would be structured, United will most likely end up paying 80 million euros for the 26-year-old.

It remains to be seen whether that figure will tally with the figures publicly released by United, given recent disputes over exact money paid in deals between English clubs and the Spanish giants, most notably those for Luis Suarez and Gareth Bale.

The stated fee would match what Madrid paid to sign James Rodriguez from Monaco earlier this summer, and would help club president Florentino Perez to appease the club's fans amid dissatisfaction at the sale of Di Maria.


ALL-TIME HIGHEST TRANSFER FEES
1) £85m Gareth Bale -- Tottenham to Real Madrid, Sept. 2013
2) £80m Cristiano Ronaldo -- Man Utd to Real Madrid, June 2009
3) £75m Luis Suarez -- Liverpool to Barcelona, July 2014
4) £71m James Rodriguez -- Monaco to Real Madrid, July 2014
5) £56m Kaka -- AC Milan to Real Madrid, June 2009
6) £55m Edinson Cavani -- Napoli to PSG, July 2013


The Argentina winger is expected to travel to Manchester to complete the deal on Monday, and has been promised the No. 7 shirt at Old Trafford. He is expected to sign a five- or six-year deal.

Madrid boss Carlo Ancelotti had confirmed earlier on Sunday that Di Maria is on his way out of the Bernabeu.

"It is not fully done, but he is close to a transfer," Ancelotti said. "He came to say goodbye. We thanked him for what he has done for this team and we wished him luck for the future. It is not official, but it is resolved."

Madrid midfielder Xabi Alonso -- formerly of Liverpool -- also tweeted: "Thank you for everything Fideo! I wish you the best, even though it is Manchester United :) We will never forget the zigzag in extra time in Lisbon."

However, United boss Louis van Gaal, speaking after his side's 1-1 draw with Sunderland on Sunday afternoon, remained coy over the deal.

He told Sky Sports: "I think always the club has to announce it and when we are thinking it's the right time for a transfer then we come to you and say, 'OK, we have bought that player or the other player,' but at this time we cannot say anything."

He confirmed he was a fan of Di Maria but added: "I like [Lionel] Messi also. I like [Arturo] Vidal also. We have a lot of players in this world that I like but they cannot come always to Manchester United."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 24, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
That is a lot of money!!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 24, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Glory glory?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Feliziano on August 24, 2014, 07:06:19 PM
Now is he going to play Di Maria as a winger? lol
If Young and Valencia ent improve quickly in the wing back roles, teams will just have to plug the midfield to nullify any ManU threats.
Besides at least 1 good CB, they also need a DM.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 25, 2014, 09:22:35 AM
Agreed. Let's see what they manage to pull out of they hat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 25, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
2 games, 1 point....fire van Gaal ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 26, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
Stupid move by this shit squad.  DiMaria is not an essentially needed piece right now.  They need a defensive general to marshall the back line.  They need a CDM/ DM to break up passes through the middle.  They need proper wing backs/ fbs.  This team will battle to make Europa League during the course of the next 2-3 seasons Just like Liverpool suck salt for a solid 4 seasons.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 26, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
Pssssssssst Reds........
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on August 26, 2014, 03:09:17 PM
I have no words
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on August 26, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
I have no words

4 is enough!  :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 26, 2014, 03:21:07 PM
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 26, 2014, 03:50:29 PM
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)
Thanks! We trying...
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on August 26, 2014, 04:26:38 PM
Well that was unexpected lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on August 26, 2014, 04:35:54 PM
f**k
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on August 26, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
(http://www.bluekipper.com/articleimages/1361610070-MoyesyLaugh.jpg)

Louis van Gaal is a football genius
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 26, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
Get this in a comment section on espnfc.com

Quote
"Fergie: A despot/autocrat's power vacuum existing inside the club since he blew out having failed to put into place any of the pieces for a successful transition. To me it speaks to his massive narcissism and egomania. He was always simply using Utd as a means to achieve his own self-aggrandizement. He never loved, nor cared, about the club itself. It was simply the only place that offered him carte blanche to run EVERYTHING after a few years of success. We've seen this same power vacuum movie before in business and in politics."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 26, 2014, 07:55:31 PM
Breaking : Di Maria hands in transfer request. (http://Di Maria hands in transfer request.) :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 26, 2014, 08:59:44 PM
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 27, 2014, 07:02:42 AM
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Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on August 27, 2014, 07:45:42 AM
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.

Just be lucky you're not a Charlton fan if that's a doldrum for ya :p
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 27, 2014, 10:24:07 AM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on August 27, 2014, 10:52:07 AM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 27, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:


so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question

Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 27, 2014, 11:06:22 AM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 27, 2014, 12:43:04 PM
No CL and getting lit up by small sides.  Di Maria must be so vex eh.  He's a defending CL champion!

A man named Reeve hit allyuh a no-look pass to set up a goal lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tiresais on August 27, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing.

Lol you are very pessimistic :p They still have good players, but not much of a team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 27, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on August 27, 2014, 09:16:16 PM
nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things



Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... £213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on August 28, 2014, 07:59:45 AM
nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things



Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... £213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).

 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 28, 2014, 08:26:40 AM
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 28, 2014, 09:36:45 AM
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 28, 2014, 11:00:37 AM
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for £59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.
Nice breakdown. I was about to dismiss you as just another hater before this. I think we could probably manage without the DM but we definitely need to improve that defense. I think Rio was past it, but losing Evra AND Vidic really hurt.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on August 30, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
*cough*
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 30, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
As the saying goes, "it will get worse before it gets better". Let's see how much patience we'll have with Val Gaal, since we're in a time where everyone wants to win now!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2014, 04:27:40 AM
Falcao to United confirmed

Loan
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 01, 2014, 05:32:37 AM
I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: grimm01 on September 01, 2014, 06:12:20 AM
Big big signing for ManU. Doesn't address the other glaring needs but the strategy might simply be to score more than the defense concedes. Definite upgrade to Wellbeck and the Mexican.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 01, 2014, 06:21:14 AM
With the defence how it is that is even a bigger gamble. Service to the strikers shoddy at best. Still doesn't address the midfield issue. They hesitate over Vidal for the whole transfer season because of doubt with his knees, which is a position that actually needs to be reinforced.. Yet take a striker which not as urgent who coming back from a major knee problem himself. No word yet on areas that actually need addressing. Is Kamla handling transfers or wha? Why everything looking like it just done by vaps so for PR?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2014, 06:57:22 AM
This team going to take a while to gel. Is basically a new team constructed in a few months / weeks
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on September 01, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
even though we are not doing too well at the moment, at least we have a proven style from LVG that we are working to.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
I really don't understand why Monaco would loan him out, and why he would agree to be loaned to a non-CL team.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2014, 11:06:41 AM
We need Vidal
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on September 01, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.
RVP knee has not healed from ligament injury and he is supposed to have surgery which will rule him out for a period of time. So the signing makes sense seeing that Chicarito gone to Real Madrid and Wellbeck heading to Arsenal or Spurs.
Looks like it is a bargain deal with an option to buy at the end of the season. Plus the owner of Monaco is in a bitter divorce battle and is selling players like nobody business.
So in a nutshell, this seems like a luxury signing, but Rooney is the only healthy, proven striker on the books.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 01, 2014, 01:45:58 PM
346000 pounds a week on a loan player... A striker... With unproven fitness after an ACL injury... And a glaring midfield problem which would impact service to said striker.


Colour me skeptical. I hear Blind signed too. Preferred Carvalho.. But such is life. The finance picture eh so promising right now if this gamble doesn't work out.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 01, 2014, 02:54:35 PM

346000 pounds a week on a loan player... A striker... With unproven fitness after an ACL injury... And a glaring midfield problem which would impact service to said striker.


Colour me skeptical. I hear Blind signed too. Preferred Carvalho.. But such is life. The finance picture eh so promising right now if this gamble doesn't work out.

Man U displaying the heights of desperation with that Falcao loan signing.  That is not where they really need to strengthen.  That new chairman, Woodward, is a proper waste of time.  He is horrible at dealing with transfers. 
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 01, 2014, 02:56:44 PM

346000 pounds a week on a loan player... A striker... With unproven fitness after an ACL injury... And a glaring midfield problem which would impact service to said striker.


Colour me skeptical. I hear Blind signed too. Preferred Carvalho.. But such is life. The finance picture eh so promising right now if this gamble doesn't work out.

Man U displaying the heights of desperation with that Falcao loan signing.  That is not where they really need to strengthen.  That new chairman, Woodward, is a proper waste of time.  He is horrible at dealing with transfers.


Might have problems arranging sex in a Brothel. Steups.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2014, 03:57:01 PM
looks like no vidal oh well
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: mukumsplau on September 01, 2014, 04:48:58 PM
looks like no vidal oh well

pardna..he was never coming
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 01, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
Somebody, anybody ... Just acquire Zlatan and done!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on September 01, 2014, 07:14:01 PM
Stat: Falcao, Rooney + RVP = £866K per week > Bale, Ronaldo & Messi = £850K per week

Rooney in some big company
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 01, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
This shit is annoying, players that I like going to clubs that I dislike.
Now I hadda watch Man U games steups. 
Plus man u are taking good players out of the Champions league.
Di Maria, Rojo, Blind, Falcao, Herrera all came from clubs that qualified.
 :pissedoff:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 01, 2014, 08:28:55 PM
This shit is annoying, players that I like going to clubs that I dislike.
Now I hadda watch Man U games steups. 
Plus man u are taking good players out of the Champions league.
Di Maria, Rojo, Blind, Falcao, Herrera all came from clubs that qualified.
 :pissedoff:

Hahaha
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 02, 2014, 08:21:53 AM
Man U wreak of desperation. ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on September 02, 2014, 08:29:09 AM
Well I definitely didn't see that coming! Can't argue too much with it but it does leave me wondering what LVG has in mind in terms of how he's going to make this work. How's he finding enough playing time for RVP, Rooney, Di Maria, Mata, Herrera and Falcao with no Champion's League games? How does he plan to work out the issues in defense and defensive mid? Anyways I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. It's going to be an interesting year. Can't wait to see this team in action once they gel.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on September 02, 2014, 09:26:47 AM
Utter madness.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 03, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Well I definitely didn't see that coming! Can't argue too much with it but it does leave me wondering what LVG has in mind in terms of how he's going to make this work. How's he finding enough playing time for RVP, Rooney, Di Maria, Mata, Herrera and Falcao with no Champion's League games? How does he plan to work out the issues in defense and defensive mid? Anyways I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. It's going to be an interesting year. Can't wait to see this team in action once they gel.

He will play Blind in the hole I imagine. This does not address the lack of a defensive general.  Despite his recent injury seasons, I think Vidic would have been very useful in that role.  ManU had ample time to line up a replacement given it was no secret last season was announced as Vidic' last season in OT.  RVP is gonna be out so if Falcao can get back up to his Atletico form then he would have replaced what RVP delivered a few seasons ago.  The only problem with that concept is that given Falcao is returning from injury and now will be playing in what looks to be the most physically brutal of all the top leagues.  Will he be ablo to get back up to his usual goal scoring and fitness wise is he ready for the EPL?  Still no midfielder with the vision of Fabs, Gerrard, Sigurdson, etc. who can slice a defense open with a through ball.  So more than likely still down the flanks and cross away.  At least with DiMaria there is a player that can actually beat men and get into the box for either a shot or an assist.  I can't see why or how this will elevate this team past any of last seasons top six.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on September 03, 2014, 11:51:16 AM
Well I definitely didn't see that coming! Can't argue too much with it but it does leave me wondering what LVG has in mind in terms of how he's going to make this work. How's he finding enough playing time for RVP, Rooney, Di Maria, Mata, Herrera and Falcao with no Champion's League games? How does he plan to work out the issues in defense and defensive mid? Anyways I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. It's going to be an interesting year. Can't wait to see this team in action once they gel.

He will play Blind in the hole I imagine. This does not address the lack of a defensive general.  Despite his recent injury seasons, I think Vidic would have been very useful in that role.  ManU had ample time to line up a replacement given it was no secret last season was announced as Vidic' last season in OT.  RVP is gonna be out so if Falcao can get back up to his Atletico form then he would have replaced what RVP delivered a few seasons ago.  The only problem with that concept is that given Falcao is returning from injury and now will be playing in what looks to be the most physically brutal of all the top leagues.  Will he be ablo to get back up to his usual goal scoring and fitness wise is he ready for the EPL?  Still no midfielder with the vision of Fabs, Gerrard, Sigurdson, etc. who can slice a defense open with a through ball.  So more than likely still down the flanks and cross away.  At least with DiMaria there is a player that can actually beat men and get into the box for either a shot or an assist.  I can't see why or how this will elevate this team past any of last seasons top six.
If by "in the hole" you mean as the defensive mid, I'd tend to agree. Probably in a central midfield partnership involving some combination of Carrick and/or Fellaini. I also think that given LVGs preference for versatility in his players there's going to be a fair amount of positional rotation going on, in that Blind may end up playing defense some games, Rooney might play in the hole behind RVP and Falcao some games, and he might drop back to a 4 at the back late in games when they're leading. Forgot about Herrera but he's not available for now anyway.

As for lining up replacements for Vidic, etc. according to Scholes or Neville they scouted a few last season but felt that most weren't ready. e.g. they felt the french CB that City signed wasn't worth $32M that was requested yet.

Found the article. It was Neville: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29018901
Quote
"They need a centre-back and they need a central midfielder. But Falcao is a world class player.

"Who are the centre-backs out there that United could buy today? There are not many.

"I don't think the quality is out there - we have seen that by some of the defending throughout European football. I was out every week last season scouting - we looked at Eliaquim Mangala, Thomas Vermaelen and Mats Hummels.

"Mangala - who ended up joining Manchester City for £32m - is young, raw, quick, but is the fourth choice centre-back for France. He has the attributes to go higher but for that money I thought he wasn't up it.

"Hummels is captain of Borussia Dortmund and they said he wasn't leaving. United tried for Vermaelen, who went to Barcelona, and ended up with Marcos Rojo who was probably second choice."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 03, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
I like Blind as a player, he's more of a utility mid- for the Dutch national team, but that's not a knock on him being unsettled in any one area, but more a token of his all-round ability.  It was his pass from the left sideline that set Van Persie up for the flying header against Spain.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2014, 08:43:13 AM
That Utd lineup today looking beastly
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on September 14, 2014, 09:56:12 AM
That Utd lineup today looking beastly not

it look like curve finally startin to swing up.....even if is only QPR
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on September 14, 2014, 10:06:32 AM
Di Maria looking like a bargain at 60 million. He is so much faster than everyone else.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
Falcao on! QPR getting slaughtered
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 14, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
Ah yes Glory Glory. On to next game.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2014, 09:17:45 AM
Di Maria looking like a bargain at 60 million. He is so much faster than everyone else.


"He is so much faster than everyone else."  I think you forgot to qualify that with "on that lousy QPR team" lol.


Meanwhile it good too see ManUre fans getting excited even if is only QPR they beat up.  It will be even better to watch allyuh moan at the end when allyuh finish outside the top 4 :rotfl:

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 15, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
Rio Ferdinand keep proving he's ah hairy one.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on September 15, 2014, 10:00:44 AM
Di Maria looking like a bargain at 60 million. He is so much faster than everyone else.


"He is so much faster than everyone else."  I think you forgot to qualify that with "on that lousy QPR team" lol.


Meanwhile it good too see ManUre fans getting excited even if is only QPR they beat up.  It will be even better to watch allyuh moan at the end when allyuh finish outside the top 4 :rotfl:


I was actually talking about his own teammates. I eh see anyone on Man-U team who could keep up with him on a counter attack.
Falcao may possibly be the only fwd who could keep up with his pace, but I have not seen enough of him post injury.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2014, 12:17:25 PM
Di Maria looking like a bargain at 60 million. He is so much faster than everyone else.


"He is so much faster than everyone else."  I think you forgot to qualify that with "on that lousy QPR team" lol.


Meanwhile it good too see ManUre fans getting excited even if is only QPR they beat up.  It will be even better to watch allyuh moan at the end when allyuh finish outside the top 4 :rotfl:


I was actually talking about his own teammates. I eh see anyone on Man-U team who could keep up with him on a counter attack.
Falcao may possibly be the only fwd who could keep up with his pace, but I have not seen enough of him post injury.

Falcao was never all that quick.  He is crafty and a precision finisher.  I think Falcao just instinctively knows where to be much like Costa is proving for us.  Seems like Atletico have ah forward factory because they keep producing even when they get poached by bigger teams/ better financed.  Is like ah conveyor belt roll on roll off
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on September 15, 2014, 02:39:10 PM
Di Maria looking like a bargain at 60 million. He is so much faster than everyone else.


"He is so much faster than everyone else."  I think you forgot to qualify that with "on that lousy QPR team" lol.


Meanwhile it good too see ManUre fans getting excited even if is only QPR they beat up.  It will be even better to watch allyuh moan at the end when allyuh finish outside the top 4 :rotfl:


I was actually talking about his own teammates. I eh see anyone on Man-U team who could keep up with him on a counter attack.
Falcao may possibly be the only fwd who could keep up with his pace, but I have not seen enough of him post injury.

Falcao was never all that quick.  He is crafty and a precision finisher.  I think Falcao just instinctively knows where to be much like Costa is proving for us.  Seems like Atletico have ah forward factory because they keep producing even when they get poached by bigger teams/ better financed.  Is like ah conveyor belt roll on roll off
I have to admit that I was completely wrong about Costa. I know it is early but he is making it look easy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 15, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
I have to admit that I was completely wrong about Costa. I know it is early but he is making it look easy.

Except for the fact that Costa looks primed to match/ better his output of last season, its not much different than Torres looked when he first came over from Atleti.  Something about their strikers and a natural ability it would seem to hit the ground running in other leagues.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2014, 08:13:43 PM
If we get Ronaldo in January that would be the icing on the cake
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 08:04:41 AM
Bogus penalty for Leicester City, but Raphael come steaming in, and the forward took the opportunity to go down. Ashley Young liked it  :devil:

Leicester is a jumbie side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2014, 08:11:22 AM
Bogus penalty for Leicester City, but Raphael come steaming in, and the forward took the opportunity to go down. Ashley Young liked it  :devil:

Leicester is a jumbie side.
ent ;D :D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2014, 08:17:22 AM
lawd fadder!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :rotfl: :-\
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 08:17:40 AM
Jumbie.
Side.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on September 21, 2014, 08:21:46 AM
well yes on its head jeezan....drama dis season
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
Leicester playing the fool, they coulda well get 2 more goals here.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: chelsealife on September 21, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
Glory Glory Man United  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 08:37:53 AM
(http://www.bluekipper.com/articleimages/1361610070-MoyesyLaugh.jpg)

Louis van Gaal is a football genius

 :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on September 21, 2014, 08:52:08 AM
Check it out (https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/C6E42253811125482022840766464_2889f433633.5.1.15532761594685811797.mp4?versionId=WVfkBVCr6VsppitksScSBBkh5kLTkK_k)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 21, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Bogus penalty for Leicester City, but Raphael come steaming in, and the forward took the opportunity to go down. Ashley Young liked it  :devil:

Leicester is a jumbie side.

Not at all... Vardy fouled Raphael, Clattenburg missed that call.  That being said, Raphael came back for a vengeance, I knew exactly what was going to happen once I saw him bearing down on Vardy.  Maybe his rep as a hot head played a factor, but the contact in the back was clear.  A little soft perhaps, but given everything, reputation, foul not called... it made it look like he intentionally tried to get back at Vardy... in the penalty area.

Sleep on Leicester at your peril, they have speed up front in Vardy and Schlupp, a decent keeper in Schmeichel, an underrated midfield player in Mahrez and now Cambiasso.  Plus experienced PL players like Upton and Nugent.  They, like everybody else run into a buzzsaw in Chelsea, but as Everton found out on opening day, Leicester come to play.  Vardy had a hand in three goals, setting up Ulloa (if people didn't know of him before, like me, they better start taking note) for his first, scoring one himself, then earning the penalty on Blackett.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on September 21, 2014, 08:59:17 AM
f**k!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 09:23:40 AM
Bogus penalty for Leicester City, but Raphael come steaming in, and the forward took the opportunity to go down. Ashley Young liked it  :devil:

Leicester is a jumbie side.

Not at all... Vardy fouled Raphael, Clattenburg missed that call.  That being said, Raphael came back for a vengeance, I knew exactly what was going to happen once I saw him bearing down on Vardy.  Maybe his rep as a hot head played a factor, but the contact in the back was clear.  A little soft perhaps, but given everything, reputation, foul not called... it made it look like he intentionally tried to get back at Vardy... in the penalty area.

Sleep on Leicester at your peril, they have speed up front in Vardy and Schlupp, a decent keeper in Schmeichel, an underrated midfield player in Mahrez and now Cambiasso.  Plus experienced PL players like Upton and Nugent.  They, like everybody else run into a buzzsaw in Chelsea, but as Everton found out on opening day, Leicester come to play.  Vardy had a hand in three goals, setting up Ulloa (if people didn't know of him before, like me, they better start taking note) for his first, scoring one himself, then earning the penalty on Blackett.

http://www.joe.ie/football/football-news/vine-should-leicester-have-been-given-a-penalty-for-this-challenge-by-rafael-on-jamie-vardy/

Like I was saying - bogus penalty.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on September 21, 2014, 10:21:49 AM

http://www.joe.ie/football/football-news/vine-should-leicester-have-been-given-a-penalty-for-this-challenge-by-rafael-on-jamie-vardy/

Like I was saying - bogus penalty.

Posting a Vine clip of the same thing that everybody watching the game saw, and simply repeating yuhself hardly makes yuh point any more convincing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on September 21, 2014, 10:22:25 AM

http://www.joe.ie/football/football-news/vine-should-leicester-have-been-given-a-penalty-for-this-challenge-by-rafael-on-jamie-vardy/

Like I was saying - bogus penalty.

Posting a Vine clip of the same thing that everybody watching the game saw, and simply repeating yuhself hardly makes yuh point any more convincing.

True.
It was a bogus penalty though.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: DeSoWa on September 22, 2014, 11:19:04 AM
The ref let a similar play go in the first half when a ManU defender pushed the Leicester City striker in the box, and to me that was more blatant because his arm was extended out and not no shoulder to shoulder. So I understand why he let that one go too.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bitter on October 03, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
Exclusive: £16m is a 'disgrace' for Danny Welbeck, insists Dwight Yorke

Oct 03, 2014 06:00 By James Robson
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/exclusive-16m-disgrace-danny-welbeck-7870784

Dwight Yorke has labelled the £16m-fee United received for Danny Welbeck a disgrace.

The 1999 Treble-winner was stunned when Arsenal completed a deadline move for the England striker.

But he was even more amazed when he saw the size of the price tag.

Yorke is convinced Arsene Wenger has secured a bargain in the 23-year-old, who was a product of United’s famed academy – adding that his value is only set to rise at the Emirates Stadium.

Louis van Gaal delivered a withering assessment of Welbeck’s ability when explaining his reasons for selling him last month.

The United manager claimed that his strike-rate simply failed to live up to the standards set by Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie.

Following the loan signing of Radamel Falcao, Van Gaal decided that there was no room for Welbeck at Old Trafford.

Yorke believes United should have brokered a similar loan deal for Welbeck – or at least demanded a higher fee in a summer that saw fellow England internationals Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana move for £27m and £25m respectively.

“£16m – that’s a disgrace,” he said. “When Lallana and Shaw have gone for £25m and £27m, that’s pathetic.

“That’s why I cannot understand the market. He had to be a loan deal – especially with Falcao not signing permanently.

“You could let Danny Welbeck go on a year’s loan, get some money and have that option. He’s worth more than £16m in today’s market. Shaw and Lallana – they’re worth that much more than Danny Welbeck?

Yorke’s assessment came before Welbeck struck his first senior hat-trick in Arsenal’s 4-1 win against Galatasaray in the Champions League on Wednesday.

But that scintillating performance – taking his record to four goals in his last three games – only endorses Yorke’s contention that Wenger has landed a coup.

“Arsene Wenger cannot believe it,” he said. “Welbeck doesn’t get as much credit as he should.

“Arsene Wenger will realise that he’s got a bargain. His power – unbelievable. Pace, strength. And he will get better.”

Welbeck scored 29 goals in 142 games for United.

His most prolific campaign came in 2011-12 when he scored 12 times.

But his record is misleading, given his restricted opportunities to play as a central striker.

Yorke added: “People will recognise what a player he is. He cannot do it when playing left or right. He’s been playing out of position for so long.

“The poor kid has not had a chance to shine where he wants to play.

“How can you score wide left or right? He’s never played all season up front. He would get double figures.

“He’s been deprived goal-scoring opportunities. People don’t understand that. You’ve got to practice to be in that position.

“He’s a threat every time he plays. He’s a threat to defenders. That’s what you want. He’s 23. Someone needs to give him that chance to win games.

“It’s a specialised position. You don’t get it from playing wide. That’s a learning curve.

“I learned out wide before moving into the centre and Thierry Henry did the same. Then you get your position.”

Wenger turned Henry into one of the finest strikers in the world when converting him from a winger to a centre forward.

And England assistant and former United captain Gary Neville believes the Arsenal manager could transform Welbeck too.

He said: “When he went to Arsenal it just took off for him and if Arsene Wenger can work with Danny Welbeck in the same way as he did with Thierry Henry he will get an absolute bagful of goals if he is consistently playing.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Cocorite on October 04, 2014, 07:18:51 AM
We go see
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 20, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
How come no calls for LVG head.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 20, 2014, 09:45:40 PM

How come no calls for LVG head.

Big name coach.  You fire him, and yuh really look like yuh clueless.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Banter Banton on October 20, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
How come no calls for LVG head.

Spoken like a true Chelsea fan...

LVG will get time, at least we can see the direction he wants to take United in. It's pretty much a brand new team , they will take time to click.

I thought Blind was excellent today. Been a very very good addition to the team so far. Herrera is another one that's impressed though today he was rusty but played early after taking an injection and wearing a brace to protect a cracked rib. Some of these guys have guts. It will take alot of that to get it right this year.

Massive test ahead with Chelsea and City back to back. Very interested to see how United handle it.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on October 20, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
How come no calls for LVG head.

Spoken like a true Chelsea fan...

LVG will get time, at least we can see the direction he wants to take United in. It's pretty much a brand new team , they will take time to click.

I thought Blind was excellent today. Been a very very good addition to the team so far. Herrera is another one that's impressed though today he was rusty but played early after taking an injection and wearing a brace to protect a cracked rib. Some of these guys have guts. It will take alot of that to get it right this year.

Massive test ahead with Chelsea and City back to back. Very interested to see how United handle it.

What direction is that? He started out with a back 3 and already switch back to a back 4. Did not see this game has he switched back yet?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 21, 2014, 09:28:11 AM

Massive test ahead with Chelsea and City back to back. Very interested to see how United handle it.

After these coming fixtures that shit team will be right where they are supposed to be.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on October 21, 2014, 10:13:07 PM
Herrera is another one that's impressed though today he was rusty but played early after taking an injection and wearing a brace to protect a cracked rib.

Saw Herrera this summer in DC. Not really impressed by him, honestly. I could be wrong. Let's see by December.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 11:45:25 AM
Chuckle, chuckle ... Marouane Fellaini "suddenly" looks like a Utd player.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 12:06:11 PM
Chuckle, chuckle ... Marouane Fellaini "suddenly" looks like a Utd player.

... and with that influential header, even more.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on October 26, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
Chuckle, chuckle ... Marouane Fellaini "suddenly" looks like a Utd player.

... and with that influential header, even more.

Who needs Arturo Vidal...

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on October 26, 2014, 02:00:55 PM
Glory Glory f**kers. play till the end always !!! :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 27, 2014, 09:58:19 AM
Glory Glory f**kers. play till the end always !!! :devil:

That should help keep yuh warm when allyuh facin teams like Metalist in Europa league next year
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tenorsaw on October 27, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
Glory Glory f**kers. play till the end always !!! :devil:

That should help keep yuh warm when allyuh facin teams like Metalist in Europa league next year

Real low below the belt they, oui...lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on October 27, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Glory Glory f**kers. play till the end always !!! :devil:

That should help keep yuh warm when allyuh facin teams like Metalist in Europa league next year

Real low below the belt they, oui...lol

Ah "sting" from de scorpion ... however, de official memo goes something like LVG doh coach small clubs and he doh coach Europa League  :P
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on October 27, 2014, 02:40:12 PM
Glory Glory f**kers. play till the end always !!! :devil:

That should help keep yuh warm when allyuh facin teams like Metalist in Europa league next year

Lol... you rea f**k up  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on November 23, 2014, 04:34:55 AM

Massive test ahead with Chelsea and City back to back. Very interested to see how United handle it.

After these coming fixtures that shit team will be right where they are supposed to be.

Back in a Champions league spot. :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: triniairman on November 25, 2014, 09:15:47 PM
I have not posted in a long time, been busy with work. I usually browse through but don't post. I came across this on my FB feed today, and just had to share! This was an era of top top top players!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152587795397746
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: kounty on November 25, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
 :beermug: i like it!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on November 25, 2014, 11:32:23 PM
Have vivid memories of that game, was highly entertaining....Yorke and Rivaldo were in fine form then
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Anbrat on November 26, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Spursy on November 26, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
Welcome back to Soca Warriors Site!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Spursy on December 12, 2014, 05:38:07 PM
Five classic Man Utd v Liverpool matches
ITV Reports 12 December 2014 at 11:17am
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Solskjaer's goal set Manchester United on the way to the treble in 1999.
Photo: PA

The rivalry between Manchester United and Liverpool is probably more fierce than any other in the top flight and the country's two most decorated clubs go head to head again at Old Trafford on Sunday.

Here we look at some of the memorable moments between the pair at Manchester United's famous ground.
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Berbatov celebrates his hat-trick in 2010. Credit: PA
Man Utd 3 Liverpool 2, September 2010

United striker Dimitar Berbatov was in one of those moods as he majestically put the hosts 2-0 in front just before the hour, his second a brilliant overhead kick. Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard pulled his side level with a penalty and free-kick only for Berbatov to have the final say with a towering header six minutes from time to complete United's first hat-trick against their arch-enemies since 1946.
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Fernando Torres terrorised Nemanja Vidic in 2009. Credit: PA
Man Utd 1 Liverpool 4, March 2009

Forever remembered as the game Fernando Torres terrorised Nemanja Vidic to the point where the Serbian was sent off, this was Liverpool's best win at Old Trafford in 73 years. Cristiano Ronaldo's penalty was cancelled out by Torres before Gerrard also scored from the spot. Fabio Aurelio scored from the free-kick awarded for Vidic's second yellow card but the most unlikely scorer was much-maligned full-back Andrea Dossena.
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Solskjaer hit a famous late winner. Credit: PA
Man Utd 2 Liverpool 1, FA Cup, January 1999

It could not be known at the time but Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's last-minute goal was to prove a pivotal moment in United's treble-winning season. Liverpool had led the fourth-round tie through Michael Owen's third-minute strike but, establishing a trend which would manifest itself with even greater significance in Europe later in the season, United turned things around in the last two minutes through Dwight Yorke and then Solskjaer.
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A bit of pole dancing from 'King Eric'. Credit: PA
Man Utd 2 Liverpool 2, October 1995

The return of the King. Eric Cantona's comeback from his eight-month suspension for his kung-fu kick on a fan was always going to be explosive and the Frenchman was instrumental, creating the first for Nicky Butt and finishing with a flourish after converting a penalty equaliser and then twirling around the stanchion behind the goal. Two remarkable goals from Robbie Fowler were virtually relegated to a sideshow.
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Manchester United's Denis Law scored either side of half-time. Credit: PA
Man Utd 3 Liverpool 0, April 1965

Liverpool arrived at Old Trafford as champions but found themselves totally outplayed. Denis Law scored either side of half-time while John Connelly got the other as United also twice hit the post and had two shots cleared off the line.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 14, 2014, 09:10:42 AM
Good shift by Fellaini.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2014, 09:21:49 AM
Incredibly wasteful performance by Liverpool today. On the other side incredibly clinical by United, that's the game in a nutshell.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on December 14, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
So true. It just not Liverpool's day. Manu took their chances. Manu are more confident this year than last year. But the defense ,except DeGea, is still suspect. Pool could have scored five. De gea was exceptional today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: D.H.W on December 14, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
Glory Glory !
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on December 15, 2014, 08:51:50 AM
Incredibly wasteful performance by Liverpool today. On the other side incredibly clinical by United, that's the game in a nutshell.

Don't think either side played particularly well but the ball just bounced our way today. I'll take that and the 3 points.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on December 15, 2014, 10:31:25 AM
Incredibly wasteful performance by Liverpool today. On the other side incredibly clinical by United, that's the game in a nutshell.

Don't think either side played particularly well but the ball just bounced our way today. I'll take that and the 3 points.  :beermug:

Actually, I thought was good end to end fast paced action.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on December 15, 2014, 11:37:20 AM
Incredibly wasteful performance by Liverpool today. On the other side incredibly clinical by United, that's the game in a nutshell.

Don't think either side played particularly well but the ball just bounced our way today. I'll take that and the 3 points.  :beermug:

Actually, I thought was good end to end fast paced action.

There were moments, like the counters that led to the ManU goals but other than that far too many cheap giveaways for me, and both sides seemed a little shaky defensively.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Spursy on December 16, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
Manchester United 'relaxed' about future of keeper David De Gea


ManUTD are said to be 'relaxed' about David De Gea's future despite Spanish reports that he is frustrated with a lack of credit from Louis van Gaal.
The BBC claim that 'Manchester United are confident David De Gea's future is at Old Trafford' after a report in El Confidencial suggested that the Spaniard believes his performances are being played down by the Dutch manager.
The headline of 'Van Gaal, always negative, never positive with De Gea' sits above a story which is clearly designed to push De Gea away from Manchester United and further towards Real Madrid.
Van Gaal was certainly at pains to take attention away from De Gea after Sunday's 3-0 victory over Liverpool, saying: "You can always say that some players are the most influential in a game and, of course, David De Gea had a big influence.
"The balls were in his capacity, but he did it very well. I can mention other players who were also very good and had a big influence in this game today."
De Gea's contract expires in 2016 and there were reports last week that he is being offered a massive pay rise to lift his salary to approximately £140,000 per week.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/manchester-united-relaxed-about-future-of-goalkeeper-david-de-gea-121614 (http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/manchester-united-relaxed-about-future-of-goalkeeper-david-de-gea-121614)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Spursy on December 17, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
Falcao: I really want to stay at United
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Radamel Falcao would love to stay at Manchester United, but admits a permanent move to Old Trafford is likely to depend on how much he plays from now until the end of the season. United thought they had pulled off a major coup by signing Falcao from Monaco on deadline day, but so far the Colombian has not lived up to his star billing. Thanks partly to injury, Falcao has struggled to find form and has scored just once in 11 appearances.

Despite his struggles, Falcao is keen for United to exercise their option to buy him for £43.5m. The former Porto striker concedes his chances of remaining at Old Trafford hinge partly on the amount of playing time he gets for the remainder of the campaign, though.

"I am very happy in this city, in this club and I am enjoying it here," he told Press Association Sport. "I really want to stay. From my point of view, I'd like to carry on but obviously I have to analyse the situation, see if I play more and see what decision the board takes."

Falcao has not started a game since he scored his only United goal against Everton on 5 October. A calf injury ruled the player out for a month, but since he returned he has made three brief appearances off the bench, the latest one being a 12-minute cameo in the 3-0 win over Liverpool which kept United third in the table.

Falcao, who cost Monaco £52m when they signed him from Atletico Madrid 18 months ago, admits he would prefer to play more, but is willing to be patient.

"Every footballer wants to play, no-one is happy when they are not playing, when they are on the bench, but whenever I am given the opportunity, whether it be for five, 10, 20 or 90 minutes, I have to give my best," he said. "I feel ready for the moment that the team needs me. Whenever I have the opportunity to come on I try to do my best for the coach and I try to help the team."

Van Gaal chats, Mata praise
When asked whether he had spoken to manager Louis van Gaal about his lack of playing time, Falcao said: "We talk a lot. He has a philosophy that I respect.

"I have had an injury, and I have had to wait for the opportunity to play. I am not playing many minutes at the moment, but I am sure that there will more opportunities to play."

The professional way in which Falcao has dealt with not being part of the first team has brought praise from team-mate Juan Mata, who has also struggled to hold down a place in Van Gaal's starting XI.

"He is training very well, he is waiting for his opportunity like the great professional he is, like the great team-mate he is," the United playmaker said.

Falcao hopes he will soon reach peak fitness and start repaying the club for the money they have invested in him.

"I'm almost at 100 per cent now, let's see wait and see what the decision of the coach is, when he wants to use me more," said Falcao, who is one of the top earners at the club.

Robin van Persie has scored four goals in his last four games and Wayne Rooney is starting to show good form, while Van Gaal has shown a lot of faith in 19-year-old forward James Wilson. Falcao acknowledges he faces tough competition to earn a regular starting berth.

"We have a group of strikers who are very good and that's good for everyone," he said. "That means there is always a level of competition between us, healthy competition, and obviously I am very happy with how the team is doing."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 18, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
Argentine sports journalists choose Di Maria as the best Argentine baller of the year (foreign-based) ... IN A SECRET BALLOT.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Spursy on December 19, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
Manchester United boss Van Gaal will take time over Falcao decision
Luis van Gaal will not make a call on Radamel Falcao's future until the striker has an extended run in the Manchester United first team.
Despite a difficult, injury-hit start to life at Old Trafford, Falcao this week spelled out his desire to stay at the club beyond the end of the season.
The Colombian, who is on a season-long loan from Monaco, says he is settled in Manchester and happy at the club despite scoring just once in eight appearances.
Van Gaal will not be rushed into making a decision on whether to exercise his right to sign the player in a £43.5million deal though.
The United manager wants the former Porto and Atletico Madrid striker to prove his fitness and form first.
"He hasn't played so much," Van Gaal said when asked about the possibility of signing Falcao.
"You cannot see too much of a player if he doesn't train so much. He has been injured a lot of time. First you have to be fit.
"Now he shows fitness in the training sessions so maybe I shall select him (for Saturday's game at Aston Villa), maybe for the bench or the line up. Let's wait and see."
Falcao's last start came on October 5 when he scored his one and only goal for the club against Everton.
Van Gaal fielded teenage striker James Wilson ahead of the two-time Ballon d'Or nominee for last week's 3-0 win over Liverpool.
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/manchester-united-boss-van-gaal-will-take-time-over-falcao-decision-121914 (http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/manchester-united-boss-van-gaal-will-take-time-over-falcao-decision-121914)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 01, 2015, 09:34:36 PM
Back in 3rd place. Where are the faithful?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on February 02, 2015, 06:09:52 AM
dey shame......showed no patience...look whey alyuh is now......
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 02, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
As long as we in Europe next season, I happy. Anything more than that is gravy.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 04, 2015, 01:59:56 PM
Phew! Now I can afford to have a laugh at the expense of my friends from Chelsea and ManCity.  ;D
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 23, 2015, 12:09:11 PM
It kills me that every time Chelsea stumbles in the league, so do we. Ahh well.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 23, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
It kills me that every time Chelsea stumbles in the league, so do we. Ahh well.

You better have ah life support machine at home because dat shit side will die and disappear from top 4 contention over the next 7 weeks lol
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 23, 2015, 03:17:36 PM
It kills me that every time Chelsea stumbles in the league, so do we. Ahh well.

You better have ah life support machine at home because dat shit side will die and disappear from top 4 contention over the next 7 weeks lol

Ah go check back with you in April.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 10:49:01 AM
So still getting help from refs I see.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on February 28, 2015, 03:24:34 PM
So still getting help from refs I see.

what? The penalty? Nah, It was penalty, but the wrong man get sent off.  But if you want to say United not convincing, I would agree on that.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on April 04, 2015, 10:05:00 AM
Rooney's goal was sweet, nice first touch/control
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on April 12, 2015, 06:18:16 PM
What a difference a year makes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bakes on April 12, 2015, 06:29:18 PM
What a difference a year makes!

Just finished watching the game on the DVR 5 mins ago.  United rampant.  Mata's goal looked offside, but other than that, City showed nothing in the middle and not enough at the back.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on April 12, 2015, 07:10:05 PM
What a difference a year makes!

Just finished watching the game on the DVR 5 mins ago.  United rampant.  Mata's goal looked offside, but other than that, City showed nothing in the middle and not enough at the back.

Mata was indeed offside. The linesman just was not in the right position to catch it. But ManU was doing all the right things, indeed.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 13, 2015, 07:47:08 AM
It kills me that every time Chelsea stumbles in the league, so do we. Ahh well.

You better have ah life support machine at home because dat shit side will die and disappear from top 4 contention over the next 7 weeks lol

Ah go check back with you in April.  ;D

7 weeks later, we still in dat champions league spot and de life support machine lil dusty ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on June 13, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
Man U teen star shines for Brazil
By Michael Burgess (The New Zealand Herald).


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Andreas Pereira (left) has signed a new contract with Manchester United.

At any Under-20 World Cup, it's always difficult to identify who will go on to bigger and better things, but Andreas Pereira might be a sure bet.

The Brazilian midfielder, in action in today's quarter-finals against Portugal, is already well on the way.

He's been at Manchester United since he was 15 and made his Premier League debut in March.

After being named the club's under-21 player of the year, he recently signed a new contract with the Red Devils until the end of the 2017-18 season.

Old Trafford. The Theatre of Dreams. England's most successful club and the second-most valuable football team in the world. A global brand worth an estimated $2 billion, and a worldwide supporter base measured in millions.

Pereira shares a dressing room with Wayne Rooney and Angel De Maria and trains alongside Robin Van Persie and Nani.

"In the beginning for me, it was like, 'wow', a shock," said Pereira, who does not turn 20 until January. "But after a while, you get used to it and they are just normal people. They help you."

There are almost 40 players in the wider Manchester United squad, from established professionals to hopeful youngsters.

Competition for places is fierce but Pereira has been impressed with the mentoring and mateship.

"Everyone is competing for a spot but, if they see a young player who can be a good player, they help you," said Pereira. "They speak with me, tell me what to do and what not to do ... We're more like a family club."

Pereira was born and raised in Belgium, where his father spent more than a decade playing professionally. By the age of nine, he was in the PSV Eindhoven system in Holland before Alex Ferguson convinced him to move to Manchester in 2011. At the same time, he was representing Belgium at youth level, turning out for their under-15, under-16 and under-17 teams, although he later opted for Brazil.

He has progressed well through the ranks at United, culminating in facing Spurs in the Premier League in March.

"It was like a dream come true," he told British media. "To be fair, when I came on the pitch, it looked like I was dreaming. I felt like I was playing a video game then, afterwards, I got used to it. I didn't think about getting tired as I was just running as hard as I can."

The tournament in New Zealand can only help his cause, with United staff likely to be watching.

Pereira has impressed, particularly against Hungary in the second group match. He set up Brazil's equaliser before stepping up to slot their winning penalty in the 86th minute. But those in yellow shirts, especially the playmakers, need broad shoulders.

"There is a lot of pressure in that position," said Pereira. "But even when you put the jersey on, you have a lot of pressure. Brazil has [the reputation] so we have to do well, otherwise people are going to talk and won't be happy."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on June 14, 2015, 08:00:15 AM
Sweating now @ Old Trafford: Man Utd Legends v Bayern Legends. Scholes just uncharacteristically made a boo boo. Nice size crowd. Men like Paul Breitner in the house. A certain legend born in Tobago just had a golden chance.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on June 14, 2015, 08:26:16 AM
Redemption: Yorke scrambles one over the line. Cole also notches one. 3-2 MU @ the half. As fitting the occasion, everybody smiling.

Match ends 4-2 in favour of the home team. (7-5 on aggregate).

Man Utd IX:
Van der Saar, Phil Neville, Johnsen, Stam, Silvestre, Park, Scholes, Fortune, Yorke, Saha, Cole.

Bench: van der Gouw, Irwin, Blackmore, Martin, Beardsmore, Poborsky, Thrornley, Blomqvist, Ritchie, Dion Dublin

Bayern: Butt, Jorginho, van Buyten, R. Kovac, Pfluger, van Bommel, Breitner, N. Kovac, Paulo Sergio, Makaay, Zickler

Bench: Junghans, Kreuzer, Tarnat, Schupp, Zimmerman, Gaudino, Sternkopf, Witeczek, M. Rummenigge
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: futbolfan on June 14, 2015, 02:43:08 PM
Man U legends vs Bayern Munich Legends Highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv_tMoFrDPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cFIXbztDI
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on June 28, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
Dwight Yorke: United need three signings
Vavel.com


Manchester United legend Dwight Yorke has expressed his opinion on who he thinks his former club need to sign in this transfer window to benefit them before next season starts.

The ex-striker stated that Manchester United don't need to look for a replacement for the Spaniard David de Gea as he thinks that free transfer Victor Valdes, who signed with the club in January, will be able to fill the gap the de Gea will leave if he does complete his move to Real Madrid.
Valdes is an option for United

Yorke says that “Victor Valdes thinks he would have a good opportunity" because he has a "wealth of experience and has won everything in the game", making him "a suitable candidate and fill that gap."

“The likes of Petr Cech could have been a candidate to replace De Gea but the fact that De Gea still remains at Manchester United shows a deal has not been done.”

Three players needed for success at Old Trafford

Yorke believes that United need to sign three players in order to compete for a better position in next seasons Premier League. A defender is needed to stabilise the defence and sure it up if the first-choice keeper does vacate Old Trafford, a defensive midfielder is needed to keep the midfield and the gap between defenders in check as United were weak in that position all of last season, and finally, a striker to fix that lack of goals from last season.

A defender that United have been linked with recently is Sergio Ramos but all of the rumours regarding the pricing of the defender leave the transfer looking unlikely.

A good defender is needed in the United team and he would be a good inclusion, even with his rash style of tackling.

Another defensive midfielder is needed in the United ranks as when Michael Carrick is vacant from the starting 11, the team looks lost and there is no protection from the midfield for the defence.

Daley Blind has been a good inclusion to the team but he has turned into more of a utility player for Louis van Gaal than an out right defensive midfielder.

The United strike force was lacklustre last season as the amount of goals that were scored was minimal. With the players that the team had upfront, United should have been scoring goals more goals than they have in the past seasons.

Dwight Yorke commented saying: “Going forward we had Angel Di Maria, Wayne Rooney, Robin Van Persie, Falcao - but they haven’t been able to deliver the devastating blow we know they are capable of doing.

“That may be a point where he may need to make some changes with another forward player."
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on June 28, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
If Madrid insists on DDG... I was squeezing them for Varane.

I'd tell him... Hear what... I know you go want to go eventually... But with things in a state of Flux there... I eh think now is the best time. Sign a new deal and if they come back we won't stand in your way once we get a fair offer.

Varane would be nice.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on July 20, 2015, 01:32:18 PM
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/valdes-and-van-gaal-settle-differences-twitter-discussion
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
ManU or Booo 1 vs Villa 0. Not particularly great game. But United found a way.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: sammy on August 14, 2015, 08:51:02 PM
very very boring... totally anti utd style...  :( was the same last season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 18, 2015, 12:30:17 PM
I'll take the 3 points now and worry about style later.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 31, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
I'll take the 3 points now and worry about style later.

Get used to that mantra!

(Incidentally, had Fergie still been in the saddle, I doh see Januzaj being sold. Chicharito? Yes! Januzaj? Not at this time).

Calling on de Utd fans to decode what's happening at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 31, 2015, 07:38:48 PM
They sold Chicharito and DeGea today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on August 31, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
I'll take the 3 points now and worry about style later.

Get used to that mantra!

(Incidentally, had Fergie still been in the saddle, I doh see Januzaj being sold. Chicharito? Yes! Januzaj? Not at this time).

Calling on de Utd fans to decode what's happening at Old Trafford.

Januzaj is on loan.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 01, 2015, 01:57:43 AM
I'll take the 3 points now and worry about style later.

Get used to that mantra!

(Incidentally, had Fergie still been in the saddle, I doh see Januzaj being sold. Chicharito? Yes! Januzaj? Not at this time).

Calling on de Utd fans to decode what's happening at Old Trafford.

Januzaj is on loan.

Good, clear shout. The underlying question is: will he be back? He will get a warm, fuzzy feeling at Dortmund.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 01, 2015, 02:01:11 AM
They sold Chicharito and DeGea today.

The DeGea situation seems to be "unresolved". Sounds like there's room for one more press release.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on September 11, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2015/sep/11/louis-van-gaal-david-de-gea-anthony-martial-unrest-manchester-united-video
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Post by: asylumseeker on September 11, 2015, 08:27:02 PM
Man United's Porous PR Stunt
By Ross Fadner, (Soccer America).


As we reported yesterday, Manchester United suddenly found itself in the news for the wrong reasons, as the British press on Thursday claimed that several senior Manchester United players had approached coach Louis van Gaal earlier this season about his stifling coaching style. Well, by the end of day Friday, the kerfuffle seemed to evaporate into thin air, as van Gaal, speaking ahead of United’s home clash against Liverpool on Saturday, calmly gave his explanation for the alleged episode, which was later followed by the surprise announcement that goalkeeper David De Gea, who spent the entire summer transfer window openly pining for a move to Real Madrid, had suddenly signed a four-year contract extension.

Hmmm...

Please forgive your columnist for sounding skeptical here, but to Off The Post, it’s all a bit too much. Perhaps Man United should consult the Jose Mourinho playbook on PR -- at least the Special One tries to throw everyone off his trail by saying confusing, if not crazy, things -- but United here is, well, being a little too transparent with its press manipulation.

In fact, as OTP writes this, a report has just emerged in the Mirror claiming that captain Wayne Rooney was not on the bus to United’s team hotel on Thursday, sparking fears that England’s newly-crowned all-time leading scorer could be absent for Saturday’s crucial clash with his team’s most hated rival. One wonders what that could be about?

In any event, let’s back up for a second.

The damage control on Friday started with van Gaal’s press conference in which he asserted that Rooney and vice-captain Michael Carrick had approached with concerns over the team’s mood. According to the Dutchman, the pair simply said that the team, which had been largely overhauled over the summer, felt “flat” and needed a boost. Van Gaal then went on to claim that he has a “superb relationship” with his squad and that the British press, as usual, is barking up the wrong tree. He also went to great pains to explain how the Red Devils’ loyal fans have taken to him and then he went on to say glowing things about Rooney, calling him “the best captain” and such, adding that club EVP and transfer czar Ed Woodward, who has been heavily criticized for brokering the expensive transfer of Anthony Martial from AS Monaco, is “the best of his age.”

Well, what a relief for United fans! And what an amazing U-turn! But wait, the good news continued, as that U-turn was followed by the equally improbable U-turn of De Gea signing a new four-year deal, effectively killing the Spaniard’s hopes of a future move to the club he had courted openly all summer.

Doesn’t it all just sound a little too tightly controlled? One can’t help but wonder what United had to say/do/threaten/pay to get De Gea to sign that deal?  Incidentally, Friday also marks the day when former United defender Gary Neville comes out with his column for the Daily Telegraph. Well, unsurprisingly, his latest opinion piece is about the unrest that was reported on Thursday. Among other things, Neville, who is one of the game’s most well-respected pundits, says: "I have real concerns that Louis van Gaal has fallen out with numerous players over the last year. Some of those players he actually brought in himself. It hardly bodes well when players are brought through the door by a manager who then discards or marginalizes them."

Neville then goes on to address the very problem brought up in the Thursday reports -- namely, that the club’s creative players feel stifled by van Gaal’s tactics. "I see players in fear of capital punishment if they give it away through any element of risk or expression in the final third," he says, adding: “They look like they will suffer if they make an error. That is a concern when you have so many expressive players out on the pitch.”

Neville’s assessment leaves United fans, observers, and the rest with a stark choice to make. So, who are you going to believe: a manager likely towing the company line and whom everyone but himself says is under-fire, or one of the club’s most decorated former players, who likely retains more than a few ties with his former teammates (not to mention the backroom staff), and who also has no reason not to tell us exactly what he thinks is really going on?

The choice is yours.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on September 12, 2015, 10:31:44 AM
They sold Chicharito and DeGea today.

The DeGea situation seems to be "unresolved". Sounds like there's room for one more press release.

My bad on DeGea, there was a headline that said he was sold to Madrid on the day of the deadline. Not too sure why it didn't go through.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on September 12, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Bentike and Martial light up Old Trafford. Bentike was spectacular. Martial was sublime. Both goal were breathtaking.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Peong on September 12, 2015, 04:01:42 PM
I scoffed when I read some pundit say how Martial is the next Henry. Just the English hype machine I said.
Today he come and score a signature Henry goal. Run down the left then cut in and finish easy at the back post.  :o
It will take a lot to live up to his price tag but the man did what he needed to today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Tallman on September 26, 2015, 11:25:08 AM
I now realize dat I was de man holding back Rooney. De reason why he wasn't scoring all season was because ah had him on meh Fantasy team. As soon as ah remove him, he score.  :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on September 26, 2015, 01:24:43 PM
I now realize dat I was de man holding back Rooney. De reason why he wasn't scoring all season was because ah had him on meh Fantasy team. As soon as ah remove him, he score.  :frustrated:
Same ting wid me dread...ah drop Rooney and Harry Kane and both ah dem score today. I pick up Wilson as a striker and he get injured in the first half. All I could do is  ;D :'(
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Flex on September 26, 2015, 02:22:02 PM
Doh feel bad, I put Sanchez on the bench and he scored a hattrick today.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on October 17, 2015, 09:24:39 AM
Manu 3 vs Everton 0. The score don't tell the real truth. Everton had some good chances but King David De Gea made some spectacular foot saves. Honestly he should be United captain. Despite all the preseason distractions, he saving like ah borse.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 30, 2016, 04:09:08 AM
LISTEN 'Manchester United are still painful to watch' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03h0btq).
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 18, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Midtjylland 2 Utd 1
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 19, 2016, 12:56:25 AM
Midtjylland 2 Utd 1

ANd I understand it wasn't even that close. I believe the only reason LVG hasn't been fired is because he hasn't got them eliminated from Europe next year yet.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2016, 08:38:32 AM
Rash#@#%*ford!!!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2016, 10:08:27 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcUFDA6WoAAp6x7.jpg)

Caption that!

Simulation training. :devil:  (https://lockerdome.com/bbcsporf/6169461380096065/8515673467012116)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 28, 2016, 10:35:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcUFDA6WoAAp6x7.jpg)

Caption that!
Dat puncheon hit meh hard
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 28, 2016, 10:41:03 AM
Rash#@#%*ford!!!
Yea dat youthman is living the dream right now, 4 goals in 2 games.
The surprise to me has been Memphis! In the past 2 games he has been a completely different player. I didn't even know he was such a skillful player. He was taking on men and they had no answer for him.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2016, 11:13:11 AM
Yea dat youthman is living the dream right now, 4 goals in 2 games.
The surprise to me has been Memphis!In the past 2 games he has been a completely different player. I didn't even know he was such a skillful player. He was taking on men and they had no answer for him.

You look at him and say: "Fergie would have bought him too." He rell geh orn today.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcUFDA6WoAAp6x7.jpg)

Ketch Mourinho before he leave de stadium!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on February 28, 2016, 03:37:24 PM
Yea dat youthman is living the dream right now, 4 goals in 2 games.
The surprise to me has been Memphis!In the past 2 games he has been a completely different player. I didn't even know he was such a skillful player. He was taking on men and they had no answer for him.

You look at him and say: "Fergie would have bought him too." He rell geh orn today.
Check him here in the game last Thur vs Midtjylland https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vX6VD5FbeZc
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on February 29, 2016, 09:04:06 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcUFDA6WoAAp6x7.jpg)

Caption that!

Simulation training. :devil:  (https://lockerdome.com/bbcsporf/6169461380096065/8515673467012116)

How yuh mean ah still gettin fired????
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 12, 2016, 12:50:37 PM
Since van Gaal started work at Manchester United, the club's value has dropped significantly. (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10240193/manchester-united-value-falls-163400m-during-poor-season)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 12, 2016, 02:35:38 PM
Since van Gaal started work at Manchester United, the club's value has dropped significantly. (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10240193/manchester-united-value-falls-163400m-during-poor-season)
That is more than significant. That is bordering on precipitous!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on April 12, 2016, 06:43:33 PM
Since van Gaal started work at Manchester United, the club's value has dropped significantly. (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10240193/manchester-united-value-falls-163400m-during-poor-season)
That is more than significant. That is bordering on precipitous!

Quite right! Indeed, dahis precisely the word I entered but erased pending a second read of the article.

When do we say hello to Mourinho?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 13, 2016, 08:10:19 AM
Since van Gaal started work at Manchester United, the club's value has dropped significantly. (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10240193/manchester-united-value-falls-163400m-during-poor-season)
That is more than significant. That is bordering on precipitous!

Quite right! Indeed, dahis precisely the word I entered but erased pending a second read of the article.

When do we say hello to Mourinho?

Hopefully never! I'm not convinced that he is the answer!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on April 13, 2016, 02:01:00 PM
Boy dis side is real pressure! Everytime yuh ready to write them off dey does pull something out de fire.
From de BBC Sport football site MOTD commentators notes:
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Steve Wilson: " United may have been drubbed by Spurs on Sunday, but just when you think Louis van Gaal's fate is sealed they seem to come up with a win - as Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City will testify."
Now yuh could add West Ham to dat list!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on April 13, 2016, 08:42:29 PM
Let LVG stay. I think its the best long term option.

Let Jose stay where he is.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 17, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
Rashford just left Bournemouth a parting gift. United with their second goal managed to scrape together as many goals for the season as Sunderland! Mercy.

De Gea was seconds away from a clean sheet before Smalling nixed DeGea's Golden Glove prospects.

(By the Mose, ah bredrin asked Mourinho where he going to be ... he confirmed _______. Stay tuned. England fuh sure he said. It on lock.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 17, 2016, 03:25:17 PM
Rashford just left Bournemouth a parting gift. United with their second goal managed to scrape together as many goals for the season as Sunderland! Mercy.

De Gea was seconds away from a clean sheet before Smalling nixed DeGea's Golden Glove prospects.

(By the Mose, ah bredrin asked Mourinho where he going to be ... he confirmed _______. Stay tuned. England fuh sure he said. It on lock.

Well if that is the case then ah hope we doh end up regretting it. At least we go probably get a quick title or two out of it as that is his record.

Honestly, right now I wouldn't mind if they send both he and LVG by the bar and buy them a few rounds. Give the side to Giggs and give him a couple of years to develop the youngsters. But it have people they paying big money to make those decisions, so I hope they have better sense than me! :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 18, 2016, 06:43:30 AM
Give the side to Giggs and give him a couple of years to develop the youngsters.

Well that is an option. But the minute they start losing, of with his head. It have no loyalty here. Just win.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 18, 2016, 10:14:37 AM
Although the calls from the fans to be rid of him may come once they start losing they're not likely to actually fire him till they're out of Europe. That's the only reason LVG is still around. He's managed to keep them in Europe. Moyes was only dropped once it was certain they wouldn't be in Europe the following season. Being out of Europe hurts the bottom line and that's what the Glazers are about, making money.

If Giggs, or whoever for that matter, can keep them in the European football conversation then they'll have a chance at sticking around.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 18, 2016, 12:22:52 PM
So allyuh Arsene Wenger is ah boss?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 18, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
So allyuh Arsene Wenger is ah boss?
You tell me! 21(?) consecutive top 4 finishes!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 19, 2016, 04:54:29 AM
Better LVG finish off his last year and then give it to Giggs. Honestly this season the players didn't rise to crucial occasions (Martial aside).

Can't see it really getting better with Jose. He'll as usual self destruct within two to three years.

LVG over thinking on the system. A good ball playing center back... Somebody solid in the middle... And allowing the players to be more reflexive when possible would do.

And yes Wenger's consistency cannot be really questioned.

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 19, 2016, 03:04:27 PM
Better LVG finish off his last year and then give it to Giggs. Honestly this season the players didn't rise to crucial occasions (Martial aside).

Can't see it really getting better with Jose. He'll as usual self destruct within two to three years.

LVG over thinking on the system. A good ball playing center back... Somebody solid in the middle... And allowing the players to be more reflexive when possible would do.

And yes Wenger's consistency cannot be really questioned.

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What I doh understand is they complaining about boring, dull football and in the same breath calling for Jose who is a master at parking the big bus! Cyah understand that at all!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 21, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
FA Cup trophy  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on May 21, 2016, 06:26:21 PM
Van Gaal ain even get chance to soak in the triumph....axe de man one time.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 22, 2016, 08:21:49 PM
Van Gaal ain even get chance to soak in the triumph....axe de man one time.

Mendes and Jose like they leak it before the game...and the media only to glad to lap it up. Totally classless...which isnt surprising given who it is.


If it does happen I think I taking a sabbatical from being a United fan. Putting Jose right now...was like the decision the country faced in 2010 in putting Kamla....anybody who know the people involved cant help but think this wont end well.

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 22, 2016, 10:25:28 PM
jose has grown more petulant and self centered in his old age and with it lost the charisma dat made him bearable at best to players, to the point that he lost Chelsea's locker room .....even while we were winning he seemed distant from the team....somehow I doh see dat personality shift not transferring to Manu at some point, if not immediately.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 23, 2016, 12:21:02 AM
jose has grown more petulant and self centered in his old age and with it lost the charisma dat made him bearable at best to players, to the point that he lost Chelsea's locker room .....even while we were winning he seemed distant from the team....somehow I doh see dat personality shift not transferring to Manu at some point, if not immediately.

You eh hadda tell me that.

The episode with the physio...and his unrepentant stance despite what iced the cake for me.

Plus you know how some player that shares the same agent going and just be purchased or loaned regardless of team needs (ie Falcao).

Let Maureen stay so with he drama queen ways. I go take LVG for a year and then Giggs afterward if anything. That was the plan. Warwood and the Glazers milking enough money from the commercial side to make the most of things as they are now.

Yeah the current squad thin...because the intention always was to promote youth players. With Jose there that eh going and happen.
A next set of money would have to spend...if it doesnt..he will gripe about not getting support. If he doe get it his excuse is (and while valid) it takes about 2 years to buy into his system. Problem is by year three everybody fed up of he heaviness and ways and everything would go to hell.

I go take LVG for a year. Unfortunately the media has their agenda...(especially the UK Guardian) and they only too glad to push this head and rachet up speculation. The man eh even get to celebrate winning the FA cup properly. That just about as classless as Perez treated Del Bosque.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on May 23, 2016, 05:20:10 AM
jose has grown more petulant and self centered in his old age and .......


has grown ..... ??      Breds, dah man has always been that way. We fans don't make boardroom decisions. But we do have a final say. Boycott!! or go with flow. If we winning, he will continue to be the special one. If we losing, he will be the special goat.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: lefty on May 23, 2016, 07:16:58 AM
jose has grown more petulant and self centered in his old age and .......


has grown ..... ??      Breds, dah man has always been that way. We fans don't make boardroom decisions. But we do have a final say. Boycott!! or go with flow. If we winning, he will continue to be the special one. If we losing, he will be the special goat.
I mean it get worse as opposed to before.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 23, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
Imagine how much worse he could get with Pep at city. Plus the English media.


In fact that's the main reason they pushing it. The hype equals sales.

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Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 23, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Pep brings out the best in Mo.  He always wants to beat Pep and that determination brings the kind of fighting spirit that has been lacking for some time @ ManUre.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Bourbon on May 23, 2016, 03:42:03 PM
Pep brings out the best in Mo.  He always wants to beat Pep and that determination brings the kind of fighting spirit that has been lacking for some time @ ManUre.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/may/23/pep-guardiola-jose-mourinho-manchester-city-united-rivalry

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Pep Guardiola took his seat at the Santiago Bernabéu, looked up at the cameras pointing his way from the back of the room, asked which one was José Mourinho’s and, concluding that they must all be, began. It was the eve of the 2011 Champions League semi-final and Guardiola came out fighting. What followed was a long, pointed monologue aimed at his adversary, a settling of scores with a touch of the title weigh-in about it. “In this [press] room, he is the puto jefe, the puto amo – the f**king boss, the f**king master,” Guardiola insisted. “And I don’t want to compete with him for a moment.”

Now he will have to, all over again. José Mourinho versus Pep Guardiola has moved to Manchester. “I know him and he knows me,” Guardiola said that night. They had worked together at Barcelona, captain and assistant coach; had faced each other as managers on either side of the clásico divide; and briefly met when Chelsea played Bayern Munich in the 2013 European Super Cup; this time they share a city, a rivalry renewed. The two biggest names, elevated to comic-book or cinematic status. “Ah, Mr Pep, we meet again … ” perhaps, or, “This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”.
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It almost feels as if it had to be this way; that once City got Guardiola, United had to get his arch enemy, a counter-reaction for every reaction; as if this was a decision driven by personality and status. Opposites who attract. On some basic, emotional level: if City have a big name, United have to have a bigger one. On a footballing one: if City have Guardiola, United have to seek out a guarantee, the one man who can stop him. There may be others who could, of course, but that is how it is set up. And so the pattern is repeated. When Madrid signed Mourinho in the summer of 2010 his mission was simple: to defeat Guardiola and bring down Barcelona.

The mission stood before him daily. A life-sized cardboard cut-out used to be propped up in Mourinho’s office at Valdebebas depicting him sprinting across the Camp Nou turf, finger in the air, celebrating at the end of the 2010 Champions League semi-final. Internazionale had reached the final, Barcelona had not. For Madrid, there was relief and revelation: Mourinho had rescued them from watching the Catalan club lift the trophy at the Bernabéu. Now he had to complete the job. The plan was one with which United are familiar: to knock their rivals off their perch.

So Mourinho set about waging war, on and off the pitch. Conflict was his cause and it became increasingly personal. Perhaps it always had been: even Guardiola had told Barcelona’s president Joan Laporta that it would be easier to make Mourinho Barça manager in 2008, but he had been chosen instead. Mourinho, who once declared that Barcelona would be “for ever” in his heart, wanted the job. Then there was the task before him, an enormous one requiring shock tactics: Guardiola’s team had won the treble in 2009 and the league in 2010. Only he had prevented them reaching a second successive European Cup final.

Mourinho sought to break up the relationship that had built between Madrid and Barcelona players who had just won the 2010 World Cup together with Spain, telling them that he had been there and he knew that their Catalan colleagues hated Spain and would never truly be their friends. He bemoaned referees and committees, favourable fixtures and even teams that did not try; in short, a campaign against his club. Somehow Madrid and Mourinho were projected as the powerless little man, the victims.

His campaign against Barcelona was relentless – even if he rarely referred to them by name, preferring to cite “other clubs”. He attacked their elevation to untouchable status and their image as the game’s good guys, their projection of themselves as the sole defenders of “football”, as if no other style was legitimate. He railed against their “purity” and blamelessness. He accused them of diving and pressuring officials, who favoured them. He insisted that, behind the mask, he and Guardiola were not so different, prompting the Barcelona manager to promise he would revise his behaviour. And on match days, he ordered his team into battle. Almost literally at times. The red cards received reinforced his narrative and it spilled over often.

Most famously of all, he sneaked round behind Barcelona’s assistant coach Tito Vilanova and poked him in the eye. When he was asked about it after the game, he claimed not to know “this Pito Vilanova or whatever his name is”. He knew very well who he was, just as he knew that Pito is Spanish for “cock”.

So the spiral spun, the century-old rivalry seemingly more bitter, more intense than ever before. Trenches were dug deeper, divides opening up even within his own club. There may be excitement about the two men meeting again in Manchester but by the end of the battle for Spain, it was largely tiresome and unpleasant. Perhaps a different environment, different teams, different demands, will change that. Or perhaps not.
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Mourinho and Guardiola left a year apart, neither of them seeming happy or fulfilled, both a little burnt. When Guardiola departed, he was asked about his memories of the clásicos, the biggest club game on the planet with the best players. He had seen a 6-2, a 5-0, a 2-0 in the European Cup semi-final, some of the best moments in his club’s history, but his reply was telling: “I don’t have good memories of them,” he said. Others looked back on those four clásicos in 18 days in 2011 and struggled to remember the football through the fog.
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“We didn’t bring Mourinho here to make friends,” said Emilio Butragueño, Madrid’s institutional director. Those he did make were determined defenders. Some presented him as a crusader for the truth, fighting Madrid’s corner; others as paranoid and pernicious. “I don’t fancy talking about him,” Andrés Iniesta told El País. “But it’s clear that Mourinho did more harm than good; he damaged Spanish football.” Mourinho responded by saying that Spanish football, which he pointedly noted had come to be seen as synonymous with the Catalan club, had been “damaged” because he had “ended Barcelona’s hegemony”.

In 2012 Madrid all but claimed the league with a 2-1 win at the Camp Nou, beginning a run of just one defeat in seven clásicos. Mourinho is the only manager in eight years to take Madrid to the league title, and in his first season his team took the Copa del Rey from Barcelona. Guardiola failed to win just four trophies out of 18 when at the Camp Nou, but three of the four were lost to Mourinho’s sides. Yet, in two years of Pep versus José in Spain, Guardiola had won three major trophies, Mourinho two. A league title and a cup for Mourinho versus a league title, a cup and a European Cup for Guardiola.

When Guardiola went at the end of the 2011-12 season, it was as if Mourinho had been orphaned, without a rival to fight against. Can’t live with him, can’t live without him? He ended up fighting with his own players, finishing the season empty-handed and 15 points behind as Barcelona, now under Vilanova, took the title back. If some Mourinho defenders totted up Guardiola’s departure as another victory, proof that he had been beaten by the better man, it did not make Madrid winners.

They might have learnt. Some gloated that Guardiola had lost it when he launched that puto amo rant in 2011, the night when a dam had burst and he gave some back, but what subsequently happened on the field suggested otherwise. Mourinho had broken him, some said, really gotten under his skin; he had finally cracked with all the pressure. But the response was planned and the following night, Barcelona won 2-0 at the Bernabéu, Mourinho whining “Why? Why? Why?” afterwards, going off on a wild rant about the dark forces of Unicef and Uefa.

“Josep Guardiola is a fantastic coach,” Mourinho said, “but I have won two Champions Leagues. He has won [only] one Champions League and that is one that would embarrass me. I would be ashamed to have won it with the scandal of Stamford Bridge and if he wins it this year it will be with the scandal of the Bernabéu. I hope that one day he can win a proper Champions League. Deep down, if they are good people, it cannot taste right for them. I hope one day Guardiola has the chance of winning a brilliant, clean championship with no scandal.”

Guardiola did win it that year. Mourinho has two as well. Neither has added to the tally since. They headed in different directions: to Germany, where Guardiola won three league titles and two cups; and to England, where Mourinho won one league title and the League Cup. Now, their paths meet again, in Manchester.


That conduct is his best? Wow nice.

I always thought that the treatment of Eva the physio was probably as bad as he could get. Looking forward to how much better this best going and be.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on May 27, 2016, 10:01:32 AM
Ah well, it is done!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36363365
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Jose Mourinho: Man Utd confirm former Chelsea boss as new manager

Jose Mourinho has been officially confirmed as Manchester United manager and has signed a three-year contract.

He replaces Dutchman Louis van Gaal, who was dismissed on Monday, two days after the club's FA Cup win.

"Jose is quite simply the best manager in the game today," said United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward.

Mourinho, 53, said: "To become Manchester United manager is a special honour in the game. It is a club known and admired throughout the world."
...

Guess is time to get with de program. Here's to hoping we don't regret this decision.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on May 30, 2016, 07:46:10 AM
Rashford just left Bournemouth a parting gift. United with their second goal managed to scrape together as many goals for the season as Sunderland! Mercy.

De Gea was seconds away from a clean sheet before Smalling nixed DeGea's Golden Glove prospects.

(By the Mose, ah bredrin asked Mourinho where he going to be ... he confirmed _______. Stay tuned. England fuh sure he said. It on lock.

Well if that is the case then ah hope we doh end up regretting it. At least we go probably get a quick title or two out of it as that is his record.

Honestly, right now I wouldn't mind if they send both he and LVG by the bar and buy them a few rounds. Give the side to Giggs and give him a couple of years to develop the youngsters. But it have people they paying big money to make those decisions, so I hope they have better sense than me! :beermug:


Here's the back story.

As de driver pulls up in front of the hotel, there was an air that something was bubbling. Also notable from how the hotel staff were directing the traffic and getting curbside was not possible. I decided to hop out rather than wait.

The hotel has a revolving door and two regular exits/entries on either side. One to the left and one to the right.

I was in stride for the revolving when about 3 paces away from it, there was a sudden commotion coming through the regular door to my right. By commotion I mean what looked to be about 15 people trying to exit the door at the same time. There was ah kinda hum to it.

I realize iz Jose exiting.

My next possible act formulates clear as day ... When as I am digesting that, ah short youthman outta left field comes hurdling across me, almost tripping on my shoe, shouting "Mourinho, Mourinho" with a cellphone at the ready and hotel security in hot pursuit from the other direction.

JM's response to the youthman's screaming is nothing but: "Ok, ok". Normal, welcoming and unfazed.

I take another stride and look over my shoulder to see de youthman leaning heavily on JM's right shoulder with his left hand, literally yanking the shoulder down and with his mobile already snapping de selfie as de security reaches touching distance.

I go through the revolving and enter the hotel lobby to find the after buzz in effect. As I scan the scene, I see several particularly well-dressed women who all look like they just had an orgasm. More interestingly, ah see ah Zimbabwean bredrin standing in the thick of things with them. Ah kinda WDF moment. Ah say, only one thing to do! Make #÷×#&% inquiries to relieve meh confusiin. Ah approach pardna. Hear him: Mourinho just went out the door. Me: No shit! One of the women says, " ... so he is famous, huh?" I am confused ... Then she says looking at her pics on her phone, "I took the shot for my nephew once I found out."

Meanwhile, a throng of ppl had moved towards the doors to ketch one last glimpse and several kids in various replica jerseys milling around. Everyone is smiling.

I ask de Zimbabwean whais de story that he's with all these women. Turns out be wasn't, but had been working the "Thirsty African Opportunity Plan" upon seeing them. He says: "I think they are working. Do you see how they are dressed?" Ah wanted to dead with laughter. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Hear him: Desailly is at the bar, but JM sucked the oxygen out of this place. He says because he is about 6'4", he used his height and English to access Jose by asking the direct question and Jose responded flatly about his future without skipping a beat. After that, bredrin's mobile kept buzzing. Apparently, he was becoming increasingly popular in Bulawayo by the second. He too had a selfie with JM.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on July 05, 2016, 08:47:31 PM
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In football there are many jobs but the one that is more difficult to find is the guy who puts the ball in the net,” Mourinho said. “It is normal that a player at his age changes a bit but there is something that will never change, which is the natural appetite to put the ball in the net.

“Maybe he is not a striker any more. Maybe he is not a No9 any more but, with me, he will never be a No6. He will never be somebody playing 50 metres from the goal. You can tell me his passing is amazing. Yes, his passing is amazing but my passing is also amazing without pressure. There are many players with a great pass but to be there and put the ball in the net is the most difficult thing to find. So, for me, he will be a nine or a 10 – a nine and a half maybe – but not a six and not even an eight.”

Jose Mourinho, making too much sense. The discussion is about Rooney.

Audio Available here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p040kc4l)
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on July 05, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
On Giggs:

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“It is not my responsibility that Ryan is not in the club. The job Ryan wanted is the job the club decided to give me. It is not my fault. Ryan wanted to be Manchester United manager and the club – for reasons only the club can tell you – decided the job was for me.”

--- Jose Mourinho.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: ribbit on July 07, 2016, 09:44:04 PM
ibra
martial
rashford
mkhitaryan
memphis

where rooney fit into the depth chart?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on July 08, 2016, 09:16:38 AM
ibra
martial
rashford
mkhitaryan
memphis

where rooney fit into the depth chart?
Memphis was very underwhelming last season and did not live up to expectation. I hope he does better this season now he has some experience. Jose wants Rooney to play a 9 or a 10 so we'll see, my bet is he'll play behind Ibra and he'll bring Rashford off the bench.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
Congrats to United fans. Manchester United 2 Leicester City 1. Victory in the Community Shield.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 11:35:09 AM
Congrats to United fans. Manchester United 2 Leicester City 1. Victory in the Community Shield.

Congrats! How Manu Boo looked. Convincing or pretenders?
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 12:21:29 PM
Congrats to United fans. Manchester United 2 Leicester City 1. Victory in the Community Shield.

Congrats! How Manu Boo looked. Convincing or pretenders?

I looked at the match casually, but I would say not pretenders. Ah cyah say convincing.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 07, 2016, 04:18:36 PM
Congrats to United fans. Manchester United 2 Leicester City 1. Victory in the Community Shield.

Congrats! How Manu Boo looked. Convincing or pretenders?

I looked at the match casually, but I would say not pretenders. Ah cyah say convincing.
Ibra with a goal too, not that I have reason to doubt his ability but I hope his form continues throughout the season  :praying:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 08, 2016, 10:39:00 PM
I wonder how long Mata will last under Jose? I'm hearing in the CS game he brought him on as a sub and then took him off....that's f'd up
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2016, 06:25:58 AM
Incomplete thread without this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/09/paul-pogba-completes-man-utd-transfer-for-world-record-fee/
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on August 14, 2016, 07:59:57 AM
Just tuned in in time to see two goals: Rooney and Ibrahimovich. Zlatan's goal was all about placement. Several goals, if not most in the Prem, seem to be powered in.

As I'm posting this Bournemouth have pulled one back with 20' to play.

3-1.

Had to catch some of this despite the pull of the marathon.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on August 14, 2016, 08:20:22 AM
ManU has finally some quality depth which has been lacking for the past 3 seasons. Great way to start off the season.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on August 15, 2016, 09:30:17 AM
ManU has finally some quality depth which has been lacking for the past 3 seasons. Great way to start off the season.

Long may it continue!  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 15, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
Fiya fuh da shit team!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Deeks on August 27, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
This morning game was a tough one, despite dominating. Hull is not a bad team. Once their ownership issue is settled, they should be okay. The most impressive thing about United this season is the total hustle. Everybody running and tackling. Felliani running like hell. But this Bailly boy is playing real good. He making Blind feel real confident.  But is only the 3rd game of the season. Time will tell.
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on December 31, 2016, 10:46:56 AM
Wow, August since the last Man Utd post? Says a lot.

Just tuned in with the clock at about 82' and have been treated to two quality goals.
Title: Manchester United Tickets
Post by: SHOTTA on January 25, 2017, 03:57:08 AM
Forumites

Ill be in England in early April and i plan to see United play Everton on April 4th.

Seeking advice on the best way to go about getting tickets and if theres a preferred website anyone uses that they know is not a cat in bag that selling.

Any advice appreciated

Oh yea Welcome Dennis
Title: Re: Manchester United Tickets
Post by: Thomo on January 25, 2017, 04:56:52 AM
If you're based in Manchester it might be wise to visit their box office at the stadium. If not visit here for tickets https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.manutd.com/en/Tickets-And-Hospitality/Ticket-Prices.aspx&ved=0ahUKEwj9zuSwkN3RAhVnLsAKHbZIDfAQFgg9MAA&usg=AFQjCNGly9PgoDFVghDO4V7Z1fdMVhwVUQ&sig2=uaaVpZaQqA4Czyy15LU3eA
Click on Buy Tickets. But it seems the initial lot have been sold out already so you might have to wait until they release another batch and then you might have to be a member. Good luck, Bless
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on January 30, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Wow, August since the last Man Utd post? Says a lot.

Just tuned in with the clock at about 82' and have been treated to two quality goals.

Don't worry, haven't deserted my team.  ;D
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: asylumseeker on January 30, 2017, 03:10:15 PM
Fines were forthcoming. :devil:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on January 30, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: soccerman on January 31, 2017, 12:11:54 PM
Overall IMO the is playing well but is still missing that final punch in the final third. Ibra doesn't get the quality service he needs consistently and often times becomes a facilitator. Hoping we can sneak in the top 4 :praying:
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Mose on January 31, 2017, 04:28:04 PM
Overall IMO the is playing well but is still missing that final punch in the final third. Ibra doesn't get the quality service he needs consistently and often times becomes a facilitator. Hoping we can sneak in the top 4 :praying:

 :beermug:
Title: T&T youngster impresses Manchester United coaches
Post by: Tallman on September 03, 2018, 09:40:20 AM
T&T youngster impresses Manchester United coaches
By Andrew Gioannetti (T&T Newsday)


TWELVE-year-old Queen’s Royal College (QRC) student and Queen’s Park Academy player Addae Paponette made good use of a rare opportunity over the course of the school holidays when he engaged in trials with Manchester United, Preston North End and other football clubs in England.

Paponette was with his QP academy team and their coach Anthony Selby on a two-week tour in England, where they visited top tier stadiums and practised with a number of teams.

Upon the completion of QP’s tour, he was invited to stay in London with CrownPro Elite Football Academy, which opened even more opportunities of exposure for the young forward.

At CrownPro, he got the attention of coaches and scouts from Manchester United, Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion and Stoke City. The first three offered him trials for the winter.

“He impressed with his physical attributes, especially his height and strength,” said Rianne Paponette, the player’s mother who accompanied him on the trip.

She said he was scouted by Manchester United head of youth recruitment, David Harrison, on the penultimate day of the tour when the two clubs trained together.

“It was within 15 minutes the scout became interested in him,” his mother said.

Paponette was subsequently invited to the Aon Training Complex, Manchester United’s training academy in Carrington.

“We got the trials and he performed exceptionally well. The next day, we got word from our coach that he was impressed with his performance.

“What the Man United coaches liked about him the most was his athletic structure and his agility and he even mentioned his core fitness.”

She said Harrison extended an invitation for Paponette to attend trials during the winter period, typically the more testing season for footballers in England.

“In his (Harrison’s) words, ‘winter is a different type of beast.’ And based on how he performs then, he may be asked to stay for a continual trial period,” she added.

When asked if Paponette is capable of preparing for the winter trials in the UK given the contrast in climate between the two countries, his mother said he was not worried “because he performs even better under pressure.”

Upon his recent return to TT, Paponette was interviewed by Newsday and gave his impression of the football culture in England.

He said although the training techniques were not particularly new to him because his coach at QP, Anthony Selby, has a modern approach to the game, the intensity was something less familiar to him.

“...the intensity of football that is played there is of a higher standard than Trinidad,” Paponette said, adding that he was impressed by the “passion, drive and technical play on and off the ball at the various clubs.”

“Every day it has different sets (in training) like fitness, ball control, shooting, passing, skills, all different techniques you need to know before you want to make it in professional football. But the passion they have playing the game... it’s not mostly like having fun. It’s a business to them... They consider it like life.”

Asked for the best advice he received from a UK coach, Paponette responded, “The coaches in England (told me) ‘when you’re tired on the field, just remember your mental ability is stronger than your technical ability.’”

He said he enjoyed visiting the various training grounds and stadiums, his favourite of which was Tottenham Hotspur’s training facility in London. “The field was well kept, it was pitch perfect. And the best stadium I saw was Liverpool’s stadium (Anfield). It was clean, fabulous and one of the best stadiums I’ve ever seen in my life.”

It was an experience he said he wished to share with other young, ambitious footballers at home. His advice to them was, “you’ll never know when the opportunity might come knocking, so always try your best.”

While a student at Arima Boys’ Government and playing for FC Santa Rosa, Paponette got his first real sight at elite football when he visited Barcelona’s academy last year.

He was one of three players selected ahead of about 150 others at the Nestle Milo FC Barcelona Football Tournament at the Larry Gomes Stadium, Arima.

Last season, he copped three MVP awards in the Atlantic National Primary Schools Football League. He was also top scorer and MVP in the last edition of the Republic Bank National Youth League.

As a forward, he spoke about his best and weakest attributes.

“One of my main strengths in football is playing excellent under pressure. “(Specifically) my shooting, passing and control are what I’m best at.

“But one of the weaknesses I’ve seen within myself is I share the ball a little too much when I have a clear chance to score. I will talk to my coaches and see how I can work on that. I like people too much. I like to share my goals.”

He said he began playing football at age five.

“But at the age of ten, I realised that I was above average to the other ten and 12-year-olds because my technical and mental abilities were stronger. My physical abilities were stronger. Every time I play football, they (coaches) carry me up a year or two. I’m 12 now and they have me play with the Under-16s. I feel I can go up a little more.”

Looking ahead to the potential opportunities in the UK, which may begin as early as October, Paponette said he has no fear of stepping up and staying away from his parents for a prolonged period of time.

“I’ve done it multiple times before. I’ve been to many camps that had me away from my parents for a long time. So I know what it takes. I’ll miss her and her food but I can’t turn down that chance to play abroad.”
Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Flex on May 22, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
Man Utd vs Bayern Munich
1999 Treble Reunion
Venue: Old Trafford, Manchester
Date: Sunday, May 26, 2019
Kick-off: 3pm BST

Teams

Man Utd Squad

1 Peter Schmeichel (Goalkeeper)
2 Gary Neville (Defender)
3 Denis Irwin (Defender)
4 David May (Defender)
5 Ronny Johnsen (Defender)
6 Jaap Stam (Defender)
7 David Beckham (Midfielder)
8 Nicky Butt (Midfielder)
9 Andy Cole (Striker)
9 Louis Saha (Striker)
10 Teddy Sheringham (Striker)
13 Ji-sung Park (Midfielder)
14 Karel Poborsky (Midfielder)
15 Jesper Blomqvist (Midfielder)
17 Raimond van der Gouw (Goalkeeper)
18 Paul Scholes (Midfielder)
19 Dwight Yorke (Striker)
20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Striker)
21 Henning Berg (Defender)
24 Wes Brown (Defender)
27 Mikael Silvestre (Defender)
34 Jonathan Greening (Midfielder)

Bayern Squad

2 Markus Babbel (Defender)
3 Hans Pfluger (Defender)
4 Sammy Kuffour (Defender)
5 Klaus Augenthaler (Defender)
5 Daniel van Buyten (Defender)
6 Martin Demichelis (Defender)
6 Christian Nerlinger (Midfielder)
7 Michael Sternkopf (Midfielder)
8 Markus Schupp (Midfielder)
9 Luca Toni (Striker)
9 Giovane Elber (Striker)
10 Lothar Matthaus (Midfielder)
10 Roy Makaay (Striker)
11 Stefan Effenberg (Midfielder)
11 Ze Roberto (Midfielder)
11 Ivica Olic (Striker)
13 Paulo Sergio (Striker)
14 Carsten Lakies (Striker)
16 Andreas Ottl (Midfielder)
16 Marcel Witeczek (Midfielder)
17 Thorsten Fink (Midfielder)
19 Carsten Jancker (Striker)
22 Bernd Dreher (Goalkeeper)
22 Hans-Jorg Butt (Goalkeeper)

Title: Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
Post by: Flex on February 05, 2020, 04:47:18 PM
Man United were supposed to be too big to fail: The inside story of how everything fell apart
Mark Ogden
Senior Writer, ESPN FC


NUR-SULTAN, Kazakhstan -- It is 4:50 a.m. on Wednesday. The wind chill factor takes the temperature down to a punishing -22 degrees Celsius (-7 Fahrenheit), but as Manchester United's young squad emerges from the arrivals hall at Nursultan Nazarbayev International Airport, a throng of 60 locals with United scarves and banners greets them with a noisy welcome.

United are making their first visit to Kazakhstan to play a routine Europa League group game against FC Astana, 3,700 miles from Old Trafford, in a city that is closer to Beijing than Manchester. From a football perspective, Nur-Sultan is as far from home as United could possibly be within the UEFA orbit, but it is a fixture that sums up where the team and club are right now. Miles from where they want, and expect, to be, playing in a secondary competition while Europe's elite -- of which they were once a leading member -- contest the Champions League.

Nur-Sultan ultimately may be United's aphelion, the point from where they begin to navigate their way back to the top of the sport. A young team stacked with academy graduates -- six teenagers make their United debuts in the Astana Arena -- suffered a 2-1 defeat against the Kazakh champions. That result wasn't a shock -- manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer left almost all of his first-team players in Manchester due to United having qualified for the knockout stages -- but it was an embarrassing reminder of how far the club has fallen.

Since Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement in May 2013, when United clinched the Premier League title with an 11-point winning margin, the club have drifted further away from the position of power they once held. Manchester City have become the dominant force in Manchester and England, winning three titles in six years, while traditional rivals Liverpool have become Champions League winners and appear destined to end a 30-year league title drought this season.

Managers have come and gone -- Solskjaer is the fourth hire since Ferguson -- a staggering £840 million ($1 billion) has been spent, and largely wasted, on players. Mistakes have been made in the boardroom and only now are we hearing talk of a "cultural reboot" within Old Trafford.

But how could it go so wrong, so quickly? Manchester United were supposed to be too big, too wealthy and too successful to fail.

'The lads wanted a star... we got Fellaini'

"HE'S EITHER A CLOWN OR A F---ING GENIUS," David Moyes suggested to a member of his coaching team after an early meeting with Ed Woodward, United's newly appointed executive vice-chairman, in July 2013.

Heralded as the "Chosen One" after signing a six-year contract as Ferguson's successor, Moyes was led to believe that big moves were underway to sign Gareth Bale, Cesc Fabregas and Cristiano Ronaldo. Woodward even told him that the club were just waiting to press the button on whichever deal he wanted to do. Moyes had already pulled the plug on a move (set up by Ferguson) for Barcelona's Thiago Alcantara because he was unconvinced. Having worked within a tight budget at Everton for 11 years, Moyes earned the nickname "Dithering Dave" because of his habit of painstakingly assessing every potential signing, but Woodward was now giving him the chance to play fantasy football for real.

But nothing happened. Moyes wanted Everton pair Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini, but what he really wanted was to make a statement and to do that, he had to deliver big name players to excite the fans. In late July, Woodward flew back from the team's summer tour of Australia with the club briefing that he had gone home on "urgent transfer business." Fellaini, meanwhile, had an escape clause in his Everton contract (due to expire in mid-August) enabling him to leave for £23.5m. Baines, on the other hand, made it clear he would not force a move to United.

As the days ticked by, nobody arrived to boost the squad. Panic set in. But with three minutes to go before the Aug. 31 transfer deadline, Fellaini arrived from Everton for £27.5m -- £4m more than his escape clause would have allowed him to leave for two weeks earlier.

It was a disastrous summer window, and privately, Moyes and Woodward began to point the finger at each other.

"Before games, [David Moyes] would say, 'We need to make 500 passes today.' What is all that about? 500 passes? We never had that kind of thing under Sir Alex [Ferguson]. Before we played Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarterfinal at the Allianz Arena, he told us to try to win corners by kicking the ball off Bayern players' shins. It was laughable really." - a former United midfielder

"The lads wanted a star name to lift the dressing-room, and we got Fellaini," one member of Moyes' first squad told ESPN FC. "Felli was a good lad and he did a job, but the rest of us were just looking at each other, wondering what the hell had happened. David misjudged the squad. He needed two new centre-halves at the outset because injuries had caught up with Rio [Ferdinand] and Vida [Nemanja Vidic]. But he was too worried about making such a big call straightaway. He didn't take risks and he didn't want risk-takers."

United would go on to their worst start to a season in the Premier League era, followed by another panic buy. In the January transfer window, they signed Juan Mata, flying him to the training ground in a helicopter. The club was desperate to promote the idea of Woodward pulling off a coup by prising the player from Chelsea for £37.1m, but the players were unimpressed.

"Great lad, Juan, but we didn't need him," a first-team player told ESPN FC. "We had Shinji Kagawa at the time and he was a really popular, well-respected player within the dressing-room. Moyes didn't know how to use him. He didn't trust him. But Shinji was quicker and more direct than Juan, who actually had the effect of slowing the team down."

With Fellaini and Mata, a pattern had been set. United were paying over the odds for players unsuited to the team.

'None of the signings impressed us'

UNITED SACKED MOYES IN APRIL 2014, but the scattered approach in the market continued under his successor, Louis van Gaal. This time, Woodward got deals done, breaking the British transfer record to sign Angel di Maria for £59.7m and completing the loan signing of Radamel Falcao from Monaco. Once again, the players were underwhelmed by the signings, which also included Daley Blind, Luke Shaw, Morgan Schneiderlin and Matteo Darmian, while homegrown players like Jonny Evans and Danny Welbeck were sold off cheaply.

"In fairness to Ed, he delivered for Louis," a former United coach told ESPN FC. "Louis wanted Di Maria, [Bastian] Schweinsteiger and Memphis Depay, and he got the deals done."

"None of the players that were signed impressed those of us who were already there," a player from the time told ESPN FC. "Di Maria was the only one who we thought was a real United player. He was a great lad and he really looked the part after two to three games, but he had loads of big rows with Louis -- always in Spanish, full-volume stuff -- and he wanted out after that. A misconception has grown about Di Maria. He was popular within the squad and a top quality player, but he and Louis just didn't get on.

"Falcao was a lovely guy, so humble, but he wasn't over his bad knee injury, so it never worked for him. The rest of the signings just weren't good enough, though. Louis wanted to clear out the Ferguson influence and build again, but he went too far and made the squad worse."

Van Gaal's stubbornness also led to the expensive mistake of signing Depay from PSV Eindhoven for £25m in 2015.

"Louis was a big fan of Depay," the former coach told ESPN FC. "He found out that Liverpool had met him and were ready to do a deal, so Louis told Ed that we had to move fast. PSG were also in for him. But Albert Stuivenberg, one of the coaches, had worked with Memphis as a youngster in Holland and he knew his character. He told Louis it was a bad idea and that he wasn't right for United.

"Louis had made up his mind, though, and Ed did the deal. Albert was right. Memphis wasn't right for United."

Depay scored seven goals in 53 appearances before being shipped out to Olympique Lyonnais, with one story emphasising why he failed at Old Trafford. "He made a mistake which led to a goal in a game at Stoke," a United teammate recalls. "Louis was furious, so he punished him by making him play in the reserves the next day. Memphis then turned up for the game in a Rolls Royce. Some of the lads told him it didn't look good doing that. Next day, he turned up for training in the same car."

Van Gaal attempted to sign Sadio Mane from Southampton in August 2015 only for the forward to reject a move to Old Trafford because, according to sources, he made it clear that he did not want to play for the Dutchman. Instead, United signed Anthony Martial from Monaco; the Frenchman remains at the club.

Mourinho arrives, but the imbalance continued

THE VAN GAAL ERA LEFT UNITED WITH AN IMBALANCED SQUAD, prompting his successor, Jose Mourinho, to spend big in an attempt to inject pace, goals and experience. Paul Pogba, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Eric Bailly arrived in Mourinho's first summer. Romelu Lukaku, Victor Lindelof and Nemanja Matic checked in a year later, before Alexis Sanchez arrived in January 2018 from Arsenal.

Manchester City had been favourites to sign Sanchez, but United were prepared to pay him in the region of £400,000 a week and went on to become one of the worst signings in the club's history. Former United players spoke to their contacts at Arsenal and the same message came back: "Don't touch him, he doesn't have the character to play for United."

"Why didn't somebody at the club get one of the lads to speak to Danny Welbeck about him?" one United player said to ESPN FC.

By this stage, Mourinho was making uncomplimentary noises about player recruitment. Woodward floated the idea of creating the position of director of football, but Mourinho was reluctant and the idea was shelved. But with the manager publicly complaining about the club's transfer strategy during the 2018 summer tour of the U.S., when it became clear that United's scouts and player recruitment team were opposed to Mourinho's desire to sign Bayern Munich's Jerome Boateng as his new centre-half, the clock began to tick on Mourinho's reign in charge. Boateng's injury record was the big concern within the United scouting department. There was also a suspicion of Bayern's motives for selling, with United having seen Schweinsteiger and Owen Hargreaves arrive from the Allianz Arena, only to struggle with their fitness.

"Ed [Woodward's] problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know. He means well and wants United to be Premier League and European champions again, but he thinks he has the solution to everything. He doesn't, United don't, and he needs to hire the right people in key positions. He's also too nice. One problem that both he and the Glazers share is that they lack a hard edge. That is not the case at City or Chelsea, or with Levy at Spurs." -- one source, to ESPN FC

Mourinho also felt United moved too slowly in the market -- the one exception was when Woodward beat Chelsea to signing Lukaku -- and his approach jarred with the club's determination to be strategic in order to avoid the mistakes of Moyes and Van Gaal. Woodward had overhauled the club's scouting system, giving United eyes and ears across the globe, with as many as 60 scouts reporting into the main hub at the Carrington training ground, but it wasn't working for Mourinho.

He would be sacked last December, with Solskjaer appointed on a full-time basis in April after initially holding the post of interim-manager. Woodward heralded the Norwegian as helping United with a "cultural reboot," turning the focus onto developing homegrown talent and recruiting emerging players. In September, he told the fanzine "United We Stand" that the club signed Aaron Wan-Bissaka from Crystal Palace following an exhaustive process that began with "804 right-backs in our system based on scouting reports."

From the last minute signing of Fellaini in 2013 to the data-driven capture of Wan-Bissaka, United finally appeared to be settling on a coherent plan.

Uninspiring football

THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE MANAGER. You can blame the players and owners, but the manager ultimately pays the price for failure. United's problem, post-Ferguson, is that they have hired the wrong guy at the wrong time at every turn. Time will tell if the same applies to Solskjaer.

"It was chaos under David Moyes," one former United player told ESPN FC. Another recalled how the "training was s--- in Australia" during the early weeks of the Scot's reign.

"He told us that he would make us fitter. We had just won the Premier League by 11 points, but we were a group of players who would always strive to be better, so we bought into it," said a former player. "But training... was boring and unchallenging. Under Sir Alex, we would warm up in boxes, with one-touch passing, and it was intense and competitive. Under David, it became two-touch and our technique diminished.

"One big factor in David not succeeding at United was that he took too long to realise what he had inherited. The team had stopped pressing under Sir Alex. We began to defend deeper due to the age and experience of the team, but David came in and thought we could play fast-paced football. We couldn't and we made a terrible start that we, and he, never recovered from."

Moyes battled to win over the squad, but his attempts to make them more professional, like banning the tradition of the players eating chips on the night before a game, angered many who felt he was making changes for change's sake.

Tactically, the players also struggled to warm to Moyes. "Before games, he would say, 'we need to make 500 passes today,' a former United midfielder told ESPN FC. "What is all that about? 500 passes? We never had that kind of thing under Sir Alex. Before we played Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarterfinal at the Allianz Arena, he told us to try to win corners by kicking the ball off Bayern players' shins. It was laughable really."

In his autobiography, "#2Sides," Rio Ferdinand claimed that Moyes failed to connect with the United players. "Moyes's innovations mostly led to negativity and confusion," Ferdinand said. "The biggest confusion was over how he wanted us to move the ball forward. Some players felt they kicked the ball long more than at any time in their career. The whole approach was alien.

"Sometimes our main tactic was the long, high, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing. In one home game against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn't play for us!" By the time United sacked Moyes, less than 12 months into a six-year contract, United had fallen from being champions to a team that was unable to qualify for European competition.

Where Moyes was out of his depth, Van Gaal marched into Old Trafford in the summer of 2014 as a Champions League winner with experience of managing some of the biggest clubs in the world in Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich. He had also just guided the Netherlands to the World Cup semifinal in Brazil. "He felt like a 'boss' from day one," a United player told ESPN FC. "He just had presence and authority."

The staff behind the scenes were also immediately impressed. Van Gaal was warm and inclusive to the point that the feel-good factor returned. His personality and charisma chimed with Woodward's desire to make United punch their weight, the two men working together and the club spending heavily during a major rebuild. But while Van Gaal got United back into the Champions League in his first season, the football became predictable. He demanded that his players stick to his philosophy of a possession-based game. At a time when their Premier League and European rivals were developing quicker, high-energy styles of play, Van Gaal's United were getting slower.

"I liked Louis," one player sold by Van Gaal told ESPN FC. "He was a brilliant coach. Tactically, the best I have ever had. But his football was restrictive and he didn't allow for flair in the final third of the pitch. If a player shot and missed, he had to explain himself after the game. Louis hated players shooting with their first touch -- he basically ordered them to take a touch before shooting. Crazy, really."

Van Gaal sent every player video clips via email of what they had done wrong. When they ignored him, the emails soon came with "read receipts". During team meetings, the manager would criticise players in front of their teammates for the most basic technical mistakes.

"It was hard work under Louis," one senior player recalls. "It got to the point where Wayne [Rooney] and Michael [Carrick] went to see him to tell him that it was too much and he needed to change. He did for a while, but by the time he was sacked, the players really couldn't take any more. The lads were looking forward to international breaks just to get away for a few days."

Van Gaal was fired within 48 hours of United winning the FA Cup in 2016 -- their first trophy in the post-Ferguson era -- with Mourinho hired in his place after the club had also considered Tottenham's Mauricio Pochettino and Van Gaal's assistant, and Man United legend, Ryan Giggs.

With Pep Guardiola having taken charge at Manchester City, Mourinho was United's response: a big-name manager described as a "trophy machine" by one senior figure at Old Trafford. But by this point, United were a shadow of the team that Ferguson had led to the title three years earlier. The experienced men had gone, leaving fringe players like Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia, alongside ageing stars Rooney and Carrick. Add the failures of Depay, Schweinsteiger, Darmian and Schneiderlin and it was easy to suggest that Mourinho had taken on a bigger challenge than he had imagined.

That Mourinho delivered two trophies (Europa League and League Cup), reached the FA Cup final and qualified for the Champions League is perhaps testament to his achievement. But he spent just short of £400m in two-and-a-half years as manager and left in December 2018 with the club no better off than when he arrived.

United's football was also uninspiring, almost to the levels of the Van Gaal era, and Mourinho reacted badly to criticism from former players, most notably from iconic figures such as Paul Scholes and Gary Neville. He had also become unpopular around the club and within the dressing room during his final months in charge.

According to one source, things had gotten so bad under Mourinho that when Solskjaer became caretaker manager, folks at Old Trafford referred to him as the "anti-venom."

'Ed's problem is he's too nice'

AT THE BAGGAGE CAROUSEL IN NUR-SULTAN, Manchester United supporter cheered the players, but they booed Ed Woodward. The 48-year-old has become accustomed to criticism since succeeding David Gill in 2013, and even as far away as Kazakhstan the story remained the same. Woodward describes himself as a "lightning rod" and with that comes the abuse he receives, both in person and on social media. He may put on a brave face, but sources have said that the negativity can consume him. "He's a normal guy and just wants to be liked," a source said.

Woodward mingled with supporters in an Irish bar in Nur-Sultan, for example, only for one fan to approach him and poke his finger in the executive's ear before the incident was posted on social media. United sources told ESPN FC that Woodward does not like socialising with the protection of the club's security team. Incidents such as this one, however, perhaps emphasise his naivety.

Fans are frustrated over how Woodward and the Glazers, the U.S. owners, have run the club, seeming to care more about commercial success than success on the pitch. When the Glazers, who also own the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, bought the club in 2005 with a leveraged takeover, they plunged United into debts of around £350m. The Americans have since made United the most powerful commercial brand in world football, but unlike Roman Abramovich at Chelsea or Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan at City, the Glazers have not invested any of their own money, instead taking dividends on a regular basis. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in Sept 2008, he has pumped more than £1 billion into the club to transform their fortunes. At Old Trafford, interest payments on the debt and money drawn in dividends has seen over £1 billion drain out of United's coffers.

A former investment banker by trade, Woodward advised the Glazers during their takeover of United while working for JP Morgan. He speaks to co-chairman Joel Glazer on a daily basis, and despite the club's football failures, a United source told ESPN FC that he is "rock solid" in his position. But just as successive managers have been unable to escape Ferguson's shadow, Woodward continues to be measured against Gill, who presided over incredible success and stability alongside Ferguson.

"The players used to refer to David as 'Mr Gill,'" a former United player said. "But Ed Woodward has never had that level of respect. He's a nice guy, people like him, but David Gill just had a status around the club and United have missed that."

Within the game, Woodward has struck up strong relationships with leading figures in the business, including Man City's Ferran Soriano, Tottenham's Daniel Levy and others at Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. But one figure at a leading Premier League club told ESPN FC that Woodward suffers from "jockstrap syndrome" in that he's too easily dazzled by the association with big-name players and agents.

"Ed's problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," one source told ESPN FC. "He means well and wants United to be Premier League and European champions again, but he thinks he has the solution to everything. He doesn't, United don't, and he needs to hire the right people in key positions. He's also too nice. One problem that both he and the Glazers share is that they lack a hard edge. That is not the case at City or Chelsea, or with Levy at Spurs."

One area of scrutiny is United's lack of a director of football, a position that involves mapping out the club's long-term approach on the pitch and recruiting players and coaches to fit that vision. When Mourinho was sacked, this role was cited as an urgent appointment. Almost 12 months on, sources tell ESPN FC that it is no longer a priority.

Woodward has admitted that he, at times, has been the man who has blocked transfers. "Sometimes I have to be the one who delivers the 'no,' which isn't easy," he told "United We Stand." "Our natural tendency is to back the manager in every possible circumstance, but we have to listen to the experts too."

'Ole is going to have to be selfish'

SOLSKJAER WAS IN A RELAXED MOOD as he sat in the coffee lounge of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, United's base, in Nur-Sultan. The United manager was making light of the bitterly cold temperatures outside, claiming that "it's colder when I go to my cabin in Norway." Less than 12 months earlier, Solskjaer was managing Molde in his homeland. There have probably been times in recent months when he could have used the solitude of his retreat.

"Fair play to Ole, he is making big changes," one of Solskjaer's former United teammates told ESPN FC. "But I don't know how much his voice is really heard at the club and whether he is able to do what he really wants to do."

Solskjaer's initial appointment as caretaker manager went so well, winning his first eight games and guiding the team to a remarkable 3-1 Champions League win against PSG in France, that he was given a three-year contract in April. Woodward declared that Solskjaer was the man to lead United's "cultural reboot" by delivering attractive, winning football with a team predominantly made up of homegrown players. Behind the scenes, the scouting department was up and running, with the Wan Bissaka signing an example of how United were using strategy and data to recruit players. For his part, Solskjaer offloaded high-earning, but under-performing, players such as Lukaku, Sanchez and Darmian.

When United took the field against Astana, the average age of their 10 outfield players was 20.1. The squad cull had been brutal and the lack of reinforcements -- only three signings arrived this summer -- means Solskjaer must use untried youngsters when he wants to give his senior players a break. It is why United have languished in mid-table this season, yet those at Old Trafford say the club won't go on a spending spree in January.

Gary Neville, a former United captain, has urged Solskjaer to protect himself by pushing for funds to sign players. "Ole is not going to be there to see the fruits of the labour he has put in, the foundations that he is laying, unless he gets players in around them [youngsters]," Neville said. "The young players won't develop the maturity they need without experienced players alongside them.

"Ole must demand it [money to spend]. He is going to have to be selfish, have a ruthless streak and protect himself in January."

The money is there to spend, but missing out on the Champions League will undermine the club's efforts to sign the world's best players. And the prospect of finishing in the Premier League's top four, which grants automatic qualification to Europe's top competition, appears as far away as Kazakhstan.


Sources have told ESPN FC that the United hierarchy are prepared to endure a period of "pain" to come out the other side in a better place. There is also a view that patience will deliver its rewards. City and Liverpool are the big two at this moment in time, but nobody at Old Trafford expects Guardiola to remain at City for the long-term, while there is also a belief -- maybe a hope -- that Liverpool will have to plan for life without Jurgen Klopp at some point in the next two to three years. But waiting for your rivals to fail is no plan for success. Six years of mistakes and false steps have been hugely damaging for Manchester United, but as they emerged from the Astana Arena the mood was one of optimism. Maybe this is as bad as it gets.

United have to come in from the cold at some point.

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Sanchez wanted to leave Man Utd after first training session.
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Alexis Sanchez wanted to leave Manchester United following his first training session after an agreement with Manchester City failed to come to fruition.

City were expected to sign Sanchez in January 2018 but he ended up joining their rivals United from Arsenal in a swap deal that sent Henrikh Mkhitaryan in the opposite direction.

The Chile international, who was reportedly being paid £390,000 per week, failed to find the form he displayed at Arsenal, where he had become one of the Premier League's leading attackers.

He scored just five goals in 45 appearances in all competitions before spending the 2019-20 season on loan at Inter, who signed him permanently last month.

Injuries also limited Sanchez's impact at United, but he confirmed City had been his first choice and he did not feel comfortable with the Red Devils from the start.

"I want to tell you about my period at United, about many things that have been said which made me look bad," Sanchez said in a video posted on his official Instagram account.

"Before going there, I had an agreement with Manchester City but it didn't work out and I got the chance to join Manchester United. It was something nice for me, as a kid I liked the club a lot. Eventually I signed but I didn't ask for information on what was happening inside the club

"Sometimes there are things that you don't realise until you get there, and I remember the first training session I had, I realised a lot of things.

"After the session I got home and I said to my family and my agent, 'Can you not rip up the contract to go back to Arsenal?' They laughed, I told them 'There's something that doesn't sit right, it doesn't seem good.'

"But I already signed, I was already there. After the first few months I carried on having the same feeling, we weren't united as a team in that moment."

Sanchez felt he was often unfairly targeted as the team struggled in his first full season with team, which saw United slip from a runners-up finish in 2017-18 to sixth place.

"I'm telling you my experience, the journalists at times would speak without knowing the facts and it hurt, they had no idea what was going on inside the club," he said.

"They said it was my fault, and this, and that, but sometimes a player depends on the environment, the family that is created around him, and I think that in that moment we weren't really a family.

"And that translated onto the pitch, and since there needed to be someone to blame, they blamed me."

Sanchez felt a pivotal moment in his United career came when he was left out of the matchday squad by Jose Mourinho for a trip to West Ham in September 2018, a game that ended in a 3-1 loss at London Stadium.

"I remember a game against West Ham, I wasn't picked and that never happened during my career," he added.

"That changed a lot, it really bothered me and that day I told myself that it couldn't be possible to go from one of the best players in the Premier League to that in the space of five months.

"That bothered me a little, I got home and I was very sad for what happened, the next day I put in a double training session - as I've always been, I demand the best from myself in my job, I love what I do, I like football a lot."

Alexis Sanchez wanted to leave Manchester United and return to Arsenal after just one day of training
By Karl Matchett


Alexis Sanchez has issued an extraordinarily-honest assessment of his time at Manchester United, suggesting a poor atmosphere around the club made him want to leave immediately and was partly to blame for his woes.

The Chile international enjoyed a hugely successful spell at Arsenal, becoming one of the most-feared attackers in the Premier League, before his move north in January 2018 to join United.

He previously had the chance to join Manchester City, which was his initial preference, but Sanchez revealed the move fell through for “football reasons” and he was left with United, which also appealed at the time.

But matters quickly went south as he realised it was not the environment he had been expecting, while he says off-field matters didn’t help either.

“I wanted to talk a little about my time about United, about things they said which make me feel bad and speak a bit about my experiences in that club,” he said in a video on Instagram.

“Before moving, I had an agreement with Manchester City but for football reasons it didn’t go through.

“The chance to go to United came, I liked them very much as a child and in the end I signed without knowing too much about what went on inside the club.

“There are things you don’t know about until you’re there. I remember the first training session I realised many things and after the training session I spoke to my family and my agent and asked to rescind the contract to return to Arsenal.

“They laughed, but I said there was something which wasn’t right. But it was all signed and I was already there.

“After a few months I had the same feeling, we weren’t together, we weren’t a team.”

Alexis says the media and former United players who criticised him spoke without “knowing anything about inside the club,” suggesting that they blamed him for poor performances.

In reality, he says the disconnect between players within the club meant they weren’t a single unit, which has been a feature in most clubs he has played for and been successful: Udinese, Barcelona, Arsenal, the Chile national team.

Matters came to a head when he was dropped against West Ham by Jose Mourinho, which led Alexis to ask Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, when he arrived, for an exit.

“Sometimes when I didnd’t play, or played 20-30 minutes, the fault was always someone’s [mine]. I also self-criticise, you have to play the best you can. I also had injuries at that time, I wasn’t happy.

“Against West Ham I was dropped. It had never happened before as a player and it hurt and bothered me a lot.

“I thought ‘this can’t be possible, going from one of the best in the Premier League to five months later not even getting changed [for the match].’

“I was sad at home and the next day I trained a double session as I always do.

“The next coach arrived, the current one, and I spoke with him to say ‘I think I need to change scenery, that I have the opportunity to go to Inter.’ He said ‘no problem,’ and I went.”

Alexis finished by expressing “words of gratitude” at having had the “chance to represent the shirt” and reiterated that although “it hurt me a lot that things didn’t go the way I wanted”, he felt the atmosphere needed to be more “like a family” for on-pitch matters t improve.

Now at Inter Milan on a permanent deal, the forward thanked the fans and said he hoped they could appreciate his reasons for the message – and as he has already had a more significant impact over in Italy, perhaps his words will carry significant weight.

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Post by: Flex on October 05, 2020, 03:41:40 PM
‘Many people need a good slap’ – Patrice Evra hits out at ‘shambolic’ United
By PA Sport Staff


Patrice Evra branded Manchester United a “shambles” after watching their 6-1 home defeat to Tottenham as they capitulated at Old Trafford.

United led after being awarded a penalty inside 30 seconds, converted by Bruno Fernandes, but Spurs quickly hit back through Tanguy Ndombele and Son Heung-Min before the floodgates opened following a red card for Anthony Martial.

Son scored again, while Harry Kane got two and Serge Aurier was also on the scoresheet.

Speaking on Sky Sports, Evra said he might have to quit his job as a pundit if it involved analysing any more such performances.

“Alexis Sanchez said after his first training session he asked his agent to end his contract,” he said. “That’s what I’m going to ask Sky because this is my second game working…I’m a positive person and I never want to talk about United because telling the truth can hurt.

“I’m passionate, I love my club. I know I have to have some filter when I talk on TV, but that was a shambles.

“They let down all United fans. I don’t care about the result, I’ve been beaten 6-1, but every year I feel the same, that’s why I prefer to work on a different game if I stay at Sky.”

The result will raise questions over the progress made under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, but Evra said the blame should go higher up.

“We will talk about the manager but what about the board?” he said. “How many years now since (Sir Alex Ferguson) left, how many managers have been sacked now? We talk about Ole, maybe he’s the man, maybe not, but we don’t know about the transfers.

“It’s difficult to break a man like me, I’m a positive person. I don’t promote violence but many people need a good slap right now, that’s what I would do if I’m working for the club.

“It’s about the body language, the love for that shirt, the passion, I don’t see any players understanding wearing that shirt. You’re carrying on the story of the club.”

Deals for Edinson Cavani and Alex Telles could be completed before Monday night’s transfer deadline, but Gary Neville said a lack of action in the market to date was having an impact on the mindset of the existing squad.

“There’s no excuse for the 11 players on the pitch, or the 13, 14 players involved in the game because that was absolutely pathetic,” Neville said. “The body language was terrible, spineless.

“Off the pitch, the stuff with Harry Maguire, Mason Greenwood, the darkness around recruitment…You see Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea all signing players. The minute Spurs go 2-1 up all those negative thoughts drain every bit of confidence.

“It’s not right, but it’s what happened.

“City have spent £150million, Liverpool have signed (Diogo) Jota and Thiago (Alcantara). They’ve pulled away psychologically before the season even started.

“The psychological damage of not bringing in players is hampering the current players. The club’s job is to build title-winning teams. Manchester United have to win the title. We can’t drop those standards.”

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