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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Trini _2026 on April 19, 2005, 05:05:04 PM
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John Barnes
Dwight Yorke
Be honest now people dont be bias i cannot recall john banres at his peak but i do recall dwight yorke in his peak from 1993/1994 -1999/2000
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What criteria are you using to assess what is the 'BEST?'
The most accomplished? most reknowned? I mean that type of catergorizing is nebuleous and subjective.
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ok then taking all thing into consideration alberta trini
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Them 2 fellas cyar be the best the Carrbbean produce over the years. They might be the most recognised but hardly the best. I guess i t woul depend on the criteria being used to assesed like Alberta said
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How about dem Martiniquans who play for France including there '82 captain and all dem Surinamese who help Holland including Ruud Gullit
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Clarence Seedorf
Edgar Davids
Lillian Thuram
Brendon Batson (http://www.100greatblackbritons.com/bios/brendan_batson.html)
Cyrille Regis (http://www.explore-biography.com/sports_figures/C/Cyrille_Regis.html)
Luther Blisset (http://www.thefa.com/Features/EnglishDomestic/Postings/2003/07/54903.htm)
Ces Podd (http://www.bantamspast.co.uk/TheFrontRoomofFame/cespodd.html)
Clyde Best (http://www.blackpresence.co.uk/pages/sport/best.htm)
Marius Tresor (http://marius-tresor.biography.ms/)
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Wait nuh all them west indian born player in england oh and tallman yuh forget alfred charles.
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Easy answer...Dwight based on achievements...it not even close...yuh could argue till yuh face blue and de cows come home...but allyuh put Latas on dat list too. He done play big time European football when he was in Portugal. Dem two was ranked in de 30's as the best foootballers in de world at one time. No GKs on dat list too?
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Oh and fellas dwight yorke at his peak would have made the england 1998 WC Squad . WHAT ARE WE LOOK AT TRAILBLAZING PLAYERS OR THE BEST EVER PLAYER
look at it this way yorke set the champions league a fire in his first season there
Do you all remeber that game when yorke well Manu destroyed bayern munich 5-0 in the early rounds IN 1998/1999 CL.FERGIE SAID YORKE WAS THE ONLY STRIKE THAT GAVE HIS DEFENCE TROUBLE before he signed him.
in my opinion dwight move to a bigger club in 1998 was long over due.
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and yet you think he is a total write off now?
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THAT WAS 6 YEARS BACK
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Barnes and Yorke have to be considered.
But u should have the category in two areas.
Those who played abroad and those at home who were not given the opportunity to play abroad...eg. Spann,Lellwyn, La Forest etc.
Peace,
VB
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John Barnes was class. Dwight Yorke accomplished more (club wise). Barnes played for England which was a plus for him on the international scene. Dwight may have a chance now to change that if we qualify for Germany and knowing that he was born and bread in T&T, grew up and learn the game in T&T is also a major plus in Yorke's favor..
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Yorke by a mile, no one is even close!
Yorke top score in de champions league in '99 (tied on 8 goals with de ukrainian rocket)
seventh highest goal scorer of all time in one of de world's toughest leagues!
was on a top ten shortlight for european player of de year in '99.
Dat man woulda walk on dat english team and be owen's striker up to this day!
Spann? lol La Forest? gally cummings? lol
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Barnes and Yorke have to be considered.
But u should have the category in two areas.
Those who played abroad and those at home who were not given the opportunity to play abroad...eg. Spann,Lellwyn, La Forest etc.
Peace,
VB
I agree with you, some would argue that if some of these guys had the same opportunities they would have accomplished a lot. But you cannot mentioned Spann, Ron and Sammy and not mention Denzil White - one of the most accomplished players we had in T&T.
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Clarence Seedorf
Edgar Davids
Lillian Thuram
Brendon Batson
Cyrille Regis
Luther Blisset
Ces Podd
Clyde Best
Marius Tresor
Add to that list Anelka, Bernard Lamma, Henry, Gerrard Vandenburg, Sennon (Haiti),
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yorke hands down no 1, the man was wicked for man u and win almost everything top scorers in EPL ever
no way spann ron la gally etc even compare
and not forget yorke on the field of play was a great player very very good.
off the field well that is his business.
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i going with dwight based on born and grow up in the region not the ones that left when they were like 2 or 3 or 10
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i going with dwight based on born and grow up in the region not the ones that left when they were like 2 or 3 or 10
Barnes left at 16
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well yeah still dwight over barnes for me
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barnes left jamaica at 13
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Like this is a popularity contest. How much do you guys really know about T&T football? What makes Dwight the best? At his age no one wants him in England, he was refused by Wolves a champioship club and Tranmere, who happens to be two division below the Premiership. This guy had two good seasons in England, made as much as 65,000 pounds a week and is now being run out of England for a little over 500,000 a year. During his spell as a T&T international he has never dominated or been real creative as a player. So, what's makes him the best, the standard seems to be very low. If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man. He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach.
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. If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man. He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach.
By showing how Russel was consistent, would go a long way in supporting your position. :-\
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Like this is a popularity contest. How much do you guys really know about T&T football? What makes Dwight the best? At his age no one wants him in England, he was refused by Wolves a champioship club and Tranmere, who happens to be two division below the Premiership. This guy had two good seasons in England, made as much as 65,000 pounds a week and is now being run out of England for a little over 500,000 a year. During his spell as a T&T international he has never dominated or been real creative as a player. So, what's makes him the best, the standard seems to be very low. If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man. He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach.Â
Two good seasons??
So those years with Villa, he didn't have good seasons.
So what Man U pick him based on MEDIOCRE seasons.
He score more than 20 goals in a season how...with a POOR season.
Peace,
VB
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Two good seasons??
So those years with Villa, he didn't have good seasons.
So what Man U pick him based on MEDIOCRE seasons.
He score more than 20 goals in a season how...with a POOR season.
Peace,
VB
I was going and say more or less the same thing... NC is either a madman or born in '99 to say Yorke had two good seasons alone de whole fifteen years he in england. These ppl crazy yes
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thanks vb for that point man u pick him cause he was a shithound
is like man can't have a personal preference on this forum at all
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Could someone tell me the standard that is being used to arrive at this conclusion?
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This guy had two good seasons in England
Dwight has achieved the following honours:
- Top-scorer for Blackburn Rovers in 2002/2003
- First non-English player to score 100 goals in the Premiership
- English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 2000/2001
- English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 1999/2000
- Top-scorer for Manchester United in 1999/2000
- 10th place in FIFA's World Player of the Year ranking in 1999
- Intercontinental Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1999
- Trinidad & Tobago Chaconia Medal Gold (for Sport) in 1999
- English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
- English FA Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
- European Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
- Carling Player of the Year in 1998/1999
- English Premier League Golden Boot Award (18 goals) in 1998/1999
- Runner-up PFA Player of the Year in 1998/1999
- Voted to the PFA Team of the Year in 1998/1999
- Aston Villa's Player of the Year in 1996/1997
- Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1996/1997
- Carling Player of the Month (for February) with Aston Villa in 1996
- Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1995/1996
- League Cup winner's medal with Aston Villa in 1995/1996
- Aston Villa's Player of the Year in 1995/1996
- Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1994/1995
- Trinidad & Tobago Humming Bird Medal Silver (for Sport) in 1993
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yorke, has de titles and goals, played 4 de bess team in the world at one point, only ting alluding him is de world cup
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"Yorke has not reached double figures in his past five seasons"
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check yuh stats again NC
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I think what it is , is that Dwight for all his achievements and accolades....still is an underachiever...in a way that is a compliment even if it isn't a good thing.
After Man Utd he just about disappeared on the football pitch and was invisible. And that fact will stay with him for the rest of his life. For every person that recalls a treble or good season there will be 2 or 3 more that will say it was a short term fluke and base it on his mysterious and abismal showing on the football field after he left Man Utd.
He had alot more to achieve to cement the title of great. Don't know what went wrong....Fergie should have just been another hurdle but it seems like he came to a crashing hault.
We at home are more forgiving but the Brits will have no problems tearing into him at any opportunity....warranted or not (Sullivan...Bruce...whoever else wants to take a shot)
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So i guess dwight yorke is the winner
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If allyuh goin on stats den Yorke right up dey in trute.
But the best I have ever SEEN is Russell Latapy closely followed by the Haitian General Phillipe Vorbe.
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Russel did not make double figures either, so what is your point. If you want to say who doing the best out of all the European based players . I may agree. But you have no point
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From all the stats i seeing yorke look like the clear winner. Anybody have stats on any of the other players ???
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Russel did not make double figures either, so what is your point. If you want to say who doing the best out of all the European based players . I may agree. But you have no point
Me yuh dey wit samo?
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Barnes was never coached at all in England
In the mid-1970s young Barnes, who by then was attending St George's College, migrated with his family to England when his father, Army Colonel Ken Barnes took up a military attache posting with the Jamaican High Commission, and he remains certain that he did not improve there. It was more that the environment afforded him an opportunity.
By the time he left Jamaica, Barnes had already played Colts football (Under-15 High Schools' League) and had seen his father playing for Jamaica. "All of my football development I got here," boasted Barnes. ". so I never went to England and improved, I went to England and I was given an opportunity to play and I suppose that is why I was as successful at Watford, particularly at such a young age.
"When I went to England I wasn't coached at all. when I went to Watford at 16, I wasn't at a professional club before. My father got recalled to Jamaica and I fully expected to come back to Jamaica. But then Watford said 'do you want to stay and play? And then I was in the first team six months later, really because I was playing off the natural ability that I had, which was developed here (in Jamaica) and continued there. I was never coached at all in England," reiterated Barnes, whose adroit left foot could cross a ball played at any speed down the left flank, on any desired spot.
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"Yorke has not reached double figures in his past five seasons"
Dwight hit 13 goals in 2002-2003 season for Blackburn partner
(http://www.gjmedia.co.uk/t&t2-3.htm)
In terms of achievement, there is no one remotely close to what he has achieved from the English speaking Caribbean (Barnes included).
Gullit and that whole holland posse who it seems like came from suriname, could rival him, as they also won championships in italy and all over europe as well.
Its only because Dwight has conquered so much and set such high goals, that when he scores less than 10 goals in an EPL season, we seet it as a failure.
It is his own high achievements that has seen us critisise him now, as he is a mere mortal.
People like Dwight Yorke are born in Trinidad and Tobago once a generation.
If Latas was a lill bigger and coulda pelt a tackle or two, he woulda be at Dwight Level on the international stage as well too.
But for T&T, and in terms of gifted ability, he is perhaps the best we have ever produced (latas).
Dwight may have been a harder worker and more sacrifice and maybe more ambition (also a lill luck too sometime).
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What about guys like Warren Archibald and Leroy Deleon,who almost qualified T&T for the World Cup.In those days footballers did have the sort of oppotunities and exposure that players over the last couple of decades had,as players coming from Third World countries.Also do not underestimate Gally Cummings who played professional football in Mexico which was quite an accomplishment in those days.Also Haiti had a player called Phillipe Vorbe when they "qualified" for the World Cup,who was quite outstanding.
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Overall career totals:
| | Apps | As sub | Goals | Yellow | Red |
| Total (Club) | 529 | (81) | 183 | 20 | 1 |
| League | 400 | (63) | 135 | 16 | 0 |
| FA Cup | 40 | (7) | 19 | 1 | 0 |
| League Cup | 32 | (0) | 14 | 0 | 1 |
| European/Others | 57 | (11) | 15 | 3 | 0 |
International career totals:
| | Apps | As sub | Goals | Yellow | Red |
| Trinidad & Tobago | 58 | (1) | 19 | 1 | 0 |
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You have to consider that as time went on the numbr of games players play for the season increased tremendously.
So the statistics have to be presented and analyzed in a judicious manner.
I could make an average player of the modern game appear to be better than alot of past players because the game of football itself has changed over time.
Goals per game may help but even that may not tell the complete story as the average number of goals in a game at one point in time might be different from another. The laws of the game were changed to encourage more goals, faster action....change in offside rule, change in rules for goalkeepers....stricter rules on tackling to protect attacking players.
You could however have a sense of how important that player was to his team and their subsequent achievements. How respected was that player for his talent and performance on the pitch...what effect he had on the game and what was the quality of the opposition.
Tallman, how easy it was to make that table? I guess it easy if you could just copy paste something but it look like stress to use dem buttons.
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Who do you think is currently the best player in the Caribbean ?
Right now I think Carlos Edwards is the best player.
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Who do you think is the best Caribbean player of all time ?
I would say Dwight Yorke.
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Yuh trying to bait some Jamaicans into de open or wha?? :rotfl:
Buh i agree with you.
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if yuh including fete matches me........................
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Currently- 1.Jason Roberts 2. Carlos Edwards & Ricardo Gardner
Ever (my time & recollection)- 1-Russel Latapy 2.Dwight Yorke 3.Theodore Whitmore & Shaka Hislop
There are prob better players but those are the ones that come to mind immediately
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Right now: Edwards
Ever: Yorke Latas and Stern
and when alyuh men question Stern... prove it with facts why he shouldnt be there....
Fact: he is the best striker in the Caribbean with the best strike rate and is amongst the top 15 greatest national goalscorers.. and he is the man that really got us to the cup.. because i damn for sure know dat no1 on our team was scoring those 5 vital hex goals NOT 1 EFFING PLAYER COULD HAVE DONE THAT...
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rusell latapy now and forever ....till he is 80....then me
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Right now: Edwards
Ever: Yorke Latas and Stern
and when alyuh men question Stern... prove it with facts why he shouldnt be there....
Fact: he is the best striker in the Caribbean with the best strike rate and is amongst the top 15 greatest national goalscorers.. and he is the man that really got us to the cup.. because i damn for sure know dat no1 on our team was scoring those 5 vital hex goals NOT 1 EFFING PLAYER COULD HAVE DONE THAT...
Yuh sound like yuh have a serious axe to grind. If men eh rate Stern they eh rate him- daz small ting....he's probably the greatest goalscorer in T&T/Caribbean (arguably of all time)- but that's all that the stats prove.
In terms of greatest player, there's much more than stats that tell the story otherwise there would be no debating that Stern is/was greater than Latapy- argue that tuh yuh father nah ;D ;D
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right now: 3 way tie between Jason Roberts (Grenada), Carlos (T&T), and Gardner (Jamaica)
best ever: Leonson Lewis
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oh gawd
man pushing domestic discord and ting :devil:
My vote is for de King of Canaan, (drum roll please) Mr Dwight Yorke ;)
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Now: Carlos
Ever: Latas
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Top three is Latas, Yorkie and Leonson Lewis. They could handle deyself wit' de greats of ANY generation. Best scorer Stern-turn-inho. Best left winger Leonson. Most skillful: Latas. Most explosive with shock and awe: Leonson. Biggest achiever where it matters most: Yorkie.So who is de winner of the three? Well, ah go ha' to tally all de points. Hol' on.....out of 10 points....
Latas 9.80 (A+)
Yorkie 9.81 (A+)
Leonson 9.78 (A+)
Stern 9.73 (A+) when he was at his prime
Carlos (currently at)... 9.4 (A)
Shaka 9.7 (A+) during his best days years ago
Clayton Ince 9.3 (A)
Colin Samuel 8.98-9.0 (B+)
Hardes' 7.9 (C+ to B-)
"Tappa" Whitmore :thinking: 8.99 (B+)
Onandi Lowe 9.5 (borderline A-->A+)
...and to put the scale in perspective ;D .....
Maradona 9.9 (A+)
Pele 9.9 (A+)
Zidane 9.88 (A+)
Therefore, the winner is.................Yorkie :applause: :applause: . I rest my case, while paying my :notworthy: to Latas and Leonson and offering my :salute: to Stern-turn-inho and Shaka. ;D
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D Jamaicans gettin real pong as is, but I would not include Gardner with Edwards and Roberts right now. His season has been sporadic. Claude Davis had a more solid season in my mind. Nonetheless, I think if we were to add a potential third that Shelton, once his eye for goal improves, will be a torment in both the EPL and CONCACAF.
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boxhill is the best defender
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onandi lowe coulda really been playin for a top club if he was serious...
he was real bad ...esp. when he play TT
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D Jamaicans gettin real pong as is, but I would not include Gardner with Edwards and Roberts right now. His season has been sporadic. Claude Davis had a more solid season in my mind. Nonetheless, I think if we were to add a potential third that Shelton, once his eye for goal improves, will be a torment in both the EPL and CONCACAF.
Shelton will turn out to be another Ricardo Fuller. Plenty flash, lots a great predictions bout potential, and ultimately end up in a Championship or Division 1 squad scorin 5 goal a season. As fuh CONCACAF.....same returns as Fuller.
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Shelton will turn out to be another Ricardo Fuller. Plenty flash, lots a great predictions bout potential, and ultimately end up in a Championship or Division 1 squad scorin 5 goal a season. As fuh CONCACAF.....same returns as Fuller.
Ah not looking for ting...
Any reason why yuh feel so?
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Shelton will turn out to be another Ricardo Fuller. Plenty flash, lots a great predictions bout potential, and ultimately end up in a Championship or Division 1 squad scorin 5 goal a season. As fuh CONCACAF.....same returns as Fuller.
Ah not looking for ting...
Any reason why yuh feel so?
They're the same player. Check dem out. Fast, Skillful, Young, and not able at dat level.
Remember when dah yute (tink he name Jermaine sumting) did debut fuh Bolton against Arsenal right after comin straight from Jamaica? He had a blinder and everybody start callin he nex Pele etc. Now he cyah even make 3rd Division side.
Same ting when Fuller did now start. Everybody did say he takin EPL by storm. He never pan out to be 1/4 de player dey was expectin.
Nex was supposed to be Omar Daley. Flop.
Keith Kelly was supposed to mash up Europe. Nadas.
Jermain Hue still supposed to take Europe by storm. Rien.
Fact is......Ricardo Gardner is by far the best player to come out of Jamaica. At the CONCACAF level, it's that wayward but dangerous soul Honandi Lowe.
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right now: 3 way tie between Jason Roberts (Grenada), Carlos (T&T), and Gardner (Jamaica)
best ever: Leonson Lewis
ha ha ..filho you should get around some more ... Ask Leonsen and he will tell you who is de best ever ...he been saying it for many years ...since you rate him so highly you should respect his opinion ...
Ask him nah
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right now: 3 way tie between Jason Roberts (Grenada), Carlos (T&T), and Gardner (Jamaica)
best ever: Leonson Lewis
ha ha ..filho you should get around some more ... Ask Leonsen and he will tell you who is de best ever ...he been saying it for many years ...since you rate him so highly you should respect his opinion ...
Ask him nah
There's really only 2 answers to that question. Which answer comes down to personal preference and neither is wrong. I know mine.
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D Jamaicans gettin real pong as is, but I would not include Gardner with Edwards and Roberts right now. His season has been sporadic. Claude Davis had a more solid season in my mind. Nonetheless, I think if we were to add a potential third that Shelton, once his eye for goal improves, will be a torment in both the EPL and CONCACAF.
Shelton will turn out to be another Ricardo Fuller. Plenty flash, lots a great predictions bout potential, and ultimately end up in a Championship or Division 1 squad scorin 5 goal a season. As fuh CONCACAF.....same returns as Fuller.
Respect!
The reason why I do not see him as another Fuller is because his pace is so deadly. Fuller had more beat than pace, but we see where in England, having beat alone don't necessarily make you a star. Pacy winger/forwards tend to shine in the frenetic atmosphere of the prem. I could be wrong and would in no way put my head on a block for anyone, but coming up against Manu this past season, he was quite impressive for such a young inexperienced guy. I wouldn't hate on him nor would I sleep on the potential he has already shown. That's all it is though, potential.
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right now: 3 way tie between Jason Roberts (Grenada), Carlos (T&T), and Gardner (Jamaica)
best ever: Leonson Lewis
ha ha ..filho you should get around some more ... Ask Leonsen and he will tell you who is de best ever ...he been saying it for many years ...since you rate him so highly you should respect his opinion ...
Ask him nah
Aye boy. You back..talk to me nah. How you feeling bout you biancocelestes. I feel dat Crespo injury will have big repercussions. Anyhow..this is not the thread. I will catch yuh on a copa thread. Anyhow, personally, I just value what Leo brought to the table over all others. We can't all value the same thing. Doh really matter what Leo himself thinks. The man humble ;) Read his interview with socawarriors.net. He would have played for a big European team if not for naivete and an unscrupulous agent. Even When portuguese scouts had come to see the #10, when they were done they said they'll only take him if they could have the #11. Not everyone values the same things I guess. Respek
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D Jamaicans gettin real pong as is, but I would not include Gardner with Edwards and Roberts right now. His season has been sporadic. Claude Davis had a more solid season in my mind. Nonetheless, I think if we were to add a potential third that Shelton, once his eye for goal improves, will be a torment in both the EPL and CONCACAF.
Swimz..you sound like you talking more bout Gardner form than how good he actually is ;).
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right now: 3 way tie between Jason Roberts (Grenada), Carlos (T&T), and Gardner (Jamaica)
best ever: Leonson Lewis
ha ha ..filho you should get around some more ... Ask Leonsen and he will tell you who is de best ever ...he been saying it for many years ...since you rate him so highly you should respect his opinion ...
Ask him nah
Aye boy. You back..talk to me nah. How you feeling bout you biancocelestes. I feel dat Crespo injury will have big repercussions. Anyhow..this is not the thread. I will catch yuh on a copa thread. Anyhow, personally, I just value what Leo brought to the table over all others. We can't all value the same thing. Doh really matter what Leo himself thinks. The man humble ;) Read his interview with socawarriors.net. He would have played for a big European team if not for naivete and an unscrupulous agent. Even When portuguese scouts had come to see the #10, when they were done they said they'll only take him if they could have the #11. Not everyone values the same things I guess. Respek
yeah boy Filho I was off for awhile ...you know I would have a thing or two to say on de Copa :beermug:
Purely as a matter of personal preference Latapy is my player as best ever .....most underrated player for me is Hutson Charles. i was around them when they played under 23 and even later ....Hutson just never got the break ....something a lot of young players get caught up with ...children at an early age..unable to leave ...
I remember one player ..I wont say who, had 5 children and was on de under 23 team ! You tink easy.
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nah...i think shelton will get far.....de man have stuff...shhhhh doh tell RF i said that
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Russel Latapy, Dwight Yorke, Leonson Lewis, Theodore Whitmore, Stern John (These are the best players that I have seen in the Caribbean)....I will throw Angloma in there too since he played for Guadelope.
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and of Carlos Edwards is currently the best that I have seen....can't forget Carlos.
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Me 8)
Oh crap is football allyuh men talkin bout? I say is gyals.. ;D
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D Jamaicans gettin real pong as is, but I would not include Gardner with Edwards and Roberts right now. His season has been sporadic. Claude Davis had a more solid season in my mind. Nonetheless, I think if we were to add a potential third that Shelton, once his eye for goal improves, will be a torment in both the EPL and CONCACAF.
Swimz..you sound like you talking more bout Gardner form than how good he actually is ;).
Yeah Fil, dais why I say right now. Bibi is the best to come outta JA probably since Alan Cole. But i ehn no expert on football in the land of wood and water. We go hadda talk to Big Mag about dat. ;D
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How come Latas better than Yorke? Yorke has been very successful in achievement and also has proven himself as a striker and a midfielder. His technique and knowledge of the game is tremendous. I know Latas has skills and all that jazz, but Yorke has shown that no one else can stand up to him. He keeps on producing any where you put him on the field and off.
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What about dem man born in Guad. Like Anelka, Thuram, Tresor, Henry etc dem count.
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Stephen "Trini Pele" Hart
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like everybody fogetting yorke time down under the a league should be the yorke league the man carry a whole league and he was the best defensive player in the opening round of the wc,to any sensible and un baised person yorke is the easy decision he is above john barnes because he still belongs to the carribbean
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dwarika?!??? ???
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onandi lowe coulda really been playin for a top club if he was serious...
he was real bad ...esp. when he play TT
i think Walter "Pearl' Boyd was better then him. Play with the man real skill and touches best jamaican i have ever played with...
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What about dem man born in Guad. Like Anelka, Thuram, Tresor, Henry etc dem count.
Out of that list only Thurham and Tresor are Born in Guadeloupe.
Anelka is of Martiniquean Heritage.
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Unlike Barnes yorke was born bred and learnt his trade here which gives him a plus!!!!
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Hardest.
Talk Done.
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Unlike Barnes yorke was born bred and learnt his trade here which gives him a plus!!!!
from what i understand Barnes was born in Jamaica and left at the age of 15 or 16 for the UK. Much like Dwight. I may be wrong
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Allyuh eh hear me or what.
Talk done!
;D
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Hardest.
Talk Done. LOCK DE CHREAD!
Bitter, while you still can
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“Sometimes the hardest thing in the world is admitting you need help''
http://www.sportingchancecharity.com/
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Hardest.
Talk Done. LOCK DE CHREAD!
Bitter, while you still can
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“Sometimes the hardest thing in the world is admitting you need help''
http://www.sportingchancecharity.com/
Ah man dig this thread up from April 2005....
but yes, I need help.
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April 2005 nuff ting happen since then
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I thought you'd say Yorke's peak could have been inthe world cup...
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onandi lowe coulda really been playin for a top club if he was serious...
he was real bad ...esp. when he play TT
i think Walter "Pearl' Boyd was better then him. Play with the man real skill and touches best jamaican i have ever played with...
Yes Garcia. Walter Boyd is my choice for who i would most like to watch on pure talent. That man had real skills when he got on the football pitch.
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how you all not even rating Thuram ?
the man have a world cup and european championship medal !
check these stats !
Monaco (1991-1996)
French Cup 1990/91
Parma (1996-2001)
UEFA Cup 1998/99
Italian Cup championships 1998/99
Italian SuperCup 1998/99
Juventus (2001/02-2005/06)
Serie A Championships: 2001-2 2002-3 (2004-5 & 2005-6 titles stripped)
Italian SuperCup 2002 2003
FC Barcelona (2006/07-present)
Spanish Super Cup 2005-06
French national team (1994- )
FIFA World Cup winner 1998, runner-up 2006
European Championship winner 2000, semi-finalist 1996
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Come on fellas, there is even a discussion on this? Given the achievement dating back from college years right up to his senior career nobody has a better resume. Yorke is total class man. Simply a joy to watch.
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Robbie Greenidge from Malvern glamour boys......1960
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so I guess yorke is de wiiner, Thuram going to be upset ;)
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how you all not even rating Thuram ?
the man have a world cup and european championship medal !
check these stats !
Monaco (1991-1996)
French Cup 1990/91
Parma (1996-2001)
UEFA Cup 1998/99
Italian Cup championships 1998/99
Italian SuperCup 1998/99
Juventus (2001/02-2005/06)
Serie A Championships: 2001-2 2002-3 (2004-5 & 2005-6 titles stripped)
Italian SuperCup 2002 2003
FC Barcelona (2006/07-present)
Spanish Super Cup 2005-06
French national team (1994- )
FIFA World Cup winner 1998, runner-up 2006
European Championship winner 2000, semi-finalist 1996
Does anyone know when Thuram left Gwada, just to put things into perspective?