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Title: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Flex on August 07, 2007, 06:28:40 PM
U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
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Trinidad and Tobago’s National Under 17 footballers got a sound wake up call in their first training match of the current camp in Holland as they suffered a 6-2 defeat to the Under 18 team of Dutch club De Graafschap at its training centre on Tuesday evening.
The T&T side didn’t start badly by any means but were punished for poor organization in defense and for failing to make better use of at least three good chances on goal before the break.
Playing under chilly conditions on a well grassed pitch, skipper Leston Paul and his teammates found themselves 3-0 behind after just 20 minutes to a team which included three Holland National Under 17 players including goalkeeper Jordy van de Kracht, Lion Kaak and Ties Evers.
The first goal for the hosts came when midfielder Kevin Molino, starting ahead of injured Chike Sullivan, gave up the ball near the half line and Graafschap broke goalwards with Luuk de Jong playing it in for Soufian El Hassnoui who hammered past goalkeeper Jesse Fullerton in the 5th minute.
A minute later T&T tried to hit back with a well played ball from the right from Micah Lewis being met by an unmarked Stephen Knox but his effort from just atop the six yard couldn’t beat them Dutch national under 17 ‘keeper.
T&T at that stage were measuring up well to the Dutch boys. On 10 minutes striker Daniel Joseph made an interception and sent Knox through but his grounder missed the far right post by inches.
Soon after Graafschap taught T&T a second lesson on finishing when Jochem Jansen headed home from a right side corner. Again the player went up unchallenged at the time.
Eight minutes elapsed before T&T conceded a third item. A poorly taken free kick on the right ended up with Graafschap breaking down the left through El Hassnoui who evaded Daniel Cyrus’ challenge and as Robert Primus committed, the player played into space for de Jong to convert his second of the match.
Five minutes from half time, Joseph squandered what was easily the best chance of the half. A long clearance from Fullerton hit the turf twice before dropping for Joseph who had only the goalie to beat but instead his effort lacked the sharpness to avoid a deflection out.
The onslaught continued in the second half as on 47 minutes Rob Aarntzen  collected from Hassnoui and drew substitute goalie Glenroy Samuel to the right post before hitting clinically into the left corner.
T&T were more purposeful in the early part of the second half but overcoming a four-goal deficit was always going to be a tough ask.
Defender Akeem Adams brought some life back into T&T’s game when his blistering left footed strike from 25 yards out after a Leston Paul lay off left the goalie with no chance on 55 minutes.
Just as they seemed likely to make the scoreline tighter, T&T conceded yet again. Hassnoui lobbed Samuel from the left of the box.
Paul had a neat chip just go over bar and then Samuel pulled off the save of the game when he pushed Sven’s Spekking’s header from the six yard over bar.
Graafschap got its sixth goal in the 80th minute through Martijn Schutten beat an advancing Samuel.
T&T, which started the game without regular centre backs Robert Primus and Sheldon Bateau, got a second consolation item when substitute Stephan Campbell powered his past three challenges on the left flank before playing inside for fellow substitute Marcus Joseph to bury past the goalie. American-born Aaron Maund also made his first start with Joseph, Sean De Silva, Campbell and Ryan O’Neil getting second half appearances.
Corneal calls loss an eye opener.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
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National Under 17 head coach Anton Corneal described Tuesday’s 6-2 defeat to Dutch Premier Division club De Graafschap as an eye opener for his team as they go into the final days of the preparation camp at the Papendal training centre in Arnhem.
T&T were forced on the defensive from early on as they conceded much too easily and struggled to force themselves back into the game against the Under 18 team which included three Dutch National Under 17 players.
“I was very disappointed in their attitude towards the game,” Corneal told TTFF Media as he described the performance of his players.
“We don’t understand what it takes to play from the beginning… we have not come out of this since all of us needing to put out from the beginning. We still think we have to feel teams out and before anything happened for us we were down three goals and all three were blunders at the back. On the other hand you have to look at he chances we squandered. We should have come out at half time 3-3,” Corneal added.
“When you do finishing in the morning session and then come and get similar chances in the game it shows that we weren’t doing the extra that is required to get results. We had a little bit better second half but it was the only time we showed some effort and pride and we got chances where we scored two goals but it must not take a team to dominate us like that before we start to play. It’s better though that this happens now than at the World Cup and I hope we can learn from this.”
“We saw that when we decided to pressure we created chances but I hope this will be an eye opener because we have spoken about it many times. One team can take advantage of our faults and we need to prevent that. The team was well organized and played simple while we were the opposite for too much of the game,” Corneal ended as he refused to use the long travel and six-hour time difference as an excuse for the team’s lackluster showing under chilly conditions. Despite Akeem Adams blistering strike and Marcus Joseph’s goal off the bench after a good build up, only skipper Leston Paul managed a decent showing as his teammates were all guilty of unforced errors and lack of urgency in their play.
Senior Team head coach Wim Rijsbergen was also hopeful of the team stepping up its game as the build up continues to the August 20 opener against Ghana at the FIFA Under 17 World Championship.
The T&T U17 team will have a final training match on Saturday and will also attend a preseason encounter between La Liga club Athletico Bilbao and Dutch club Vitesse Arnhem. Corneal conducted a recovery session on Wednesday morning before meeting with the players for just over an hour prior to the evening session at Papendal.
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Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Touches on August 07, 2007, 06:36:05 PM
Hard Luck fellas but take the licks now learn from the mistakes and get it right in time for Ghana, Germany and Colombia.

Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: mukumsplau on August 07, 2007, 06:42:17 PM
allyuh see d size ah da numba 9?...wa eva dem eatin put it on we menu
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Post by: gtokyo on August 07, 2007, 06:43:44 PM
Hard Luck fellas but take the licks now learn from the mistakes and get it right in time for Ghana, Germany and Colombia.

Well said Touches..agreed...lets experiment a little and buss some goals in Ghana ass....

Seriously though, the likelihood of us winning any game is far fetched.  However, I would be happy if we left the tournament by scoring 1 goal.
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Post by: dreamer on August 07, 2007, 06:46:18 PM
Appropriate reply by Touches. Good vibes. Doh frighten.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: mukumsplau on August 07, 2007, 06:47:09 PM
Hard Luck fellas but take the licks now learn from the mistakes and get it right in time for Ghana, Germany and Colombia.

Well said Touches..agreed...lets experiment a little and buss some goals in Ghana ass....

Seriously though, the likelihood of us winning any game is far fetched.  However, I would be happy if we left the tournament by scoring 1 goal.

if yuh mus be so negative id rather u not post anything at all
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: weary1969 on August 07, 2007, 06:48:57 PM
Take all yuh licks now. We goin and represent the RWB and not be embarass
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Post by: RGarcia on August 07, 2007, 06:53:14 PM
Hard Luck fellas but take the licks now learn from the mistakes and get it right in time for Ghana, Germany and Colombia.

Well said Touches..agreed...lets experiment a little and buss some goals in Ghana ass....

Seriously though, the likelihood of us winning any game is far fetched.  However, I would be happy if we left the tournament by scoring 1 goal.

if yuh mus be so negative id rather u not post anything at all
you also have a choice to read any post on this site despite its content. Anyways sorry fellas this is only going to make yuh stronger for teh upcoming challenge... so Lift yuh head up and hold it up high...!
                                                                                                                     blessed!
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: D.H.W on August 07, 2007, 06:56:16 PM
fack tht loss.  we still winning we games  :beermug:, anything better than tht 200% rate increase tstt want to buss on we throat  :o
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 07, 2007, 07:10:30 PM
Look at the size of them men. Them bigger than our Olympic team.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Observer on August 07, 2007, 07:13:38 PM
Lots to deal with, like jet lag, hotel, food and all that. Not much to worry about
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 07, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Completely irrelevant sidenote
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Tell me that kit not looking fresh.

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Post by: g on August 07, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
fresh
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: elan on August 07, 2007, 08:45:41 PM
When is the next game? Hopefully we would not be suffering from jet lag and hotel food.
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Post by: Big Magician on August 07, 2007, 09:08:19 PM
when yuh go to a class...you suppose to learn a lesson....fullstop...

 
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Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
Reality bites!!. No matter what, this a great experience for them.Let them get their licks now.

 When I look at them pictures of the team I remember our 74 team in Toronto and Ottawa. Go Young Warriors.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: weary1969 on August 07, 2007, 09:49:42 PM
Jah boi dey preparing 4 the alleged overage Ghana players and the Huge Germans
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Post by: fatimarima on August 08, 2007, 12:48:55 AM
six...wey boy that is real licks :o.  Anyway the lil team I playin with gettin that kinda cut ass regular but we playin  fete match.  Hopefully these youths will learn from the experience and make the necessary adjustments because they playin world cup.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 08, 2007, 03:48:01 AM
Jah boi dey preparing 4 the alleged overage Ghana players and the Huge Germans
It  looks so. I don't think they have ever play against players that big. In all honesty I think some of those 18 years are bigger than the average Pro League player.
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Post by: freakazoid on August 08, 2007, 05:28:30 AM
what is interesting here as is always with most concacaf teams we werent outplayed. they took their chances (a few seemed to be handed to them) we didnt take most of ours.

but the best thing for me was the fact that the coaching staff gave players ah run ,our #1 keeper or centre backs didnt start.....i guess players still have stuff to prove to d coach and he giving them their chance

Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Bourbon on August 08, 2007, 05:37:44 AM
No scene. Sweat in peace..........
Our finishing seems to be a problem.......and mental strength. Once we sort that out....anything can happen. We (from the report) seemed to be able to match them...just that they took their chances while we squandered ours. Given the strength of the dutch youth system.....thats a very good sign.
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Post by: Jah Gol on August 08, 2007, 05:40:29 AM
Its seems like our strikers missed quite a few chances. We will need to change that quickly.
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Post by: Midknight on August 08, 2007, 05:47:11 AM
Completely irrelevant sidenote
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Tell me that kit not looking fresh.

That is not the away shirt with the home pants?  ???
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Sam on August 08, 2007, 07:01:02 AM
Nice photos Shaun !!!!!!!!!!!

Good learning experience for the youths !!!!!!! big up !!!!
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Post by: fishs on August 08, 2007, 07:24:18 AM
I still have a good feeling about this team.
I can't wait for the actual tournament.

These youths have all mih support unequivocal, win or loss.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: jai john on August 08, 2007, 07:46:35 AM
Look at the size of them men. Them bigger than our Olympic team.
Good ting fellas like Messi, saviola,Pato,Robinho,latas etc. didn't think like dat ... So is because of dey size we lorse ???
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Post by: freakazoid on August 08, 2007, 07:50:52 AM
yeah size is a factor but not a significant one as  skill or SPEED
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Post by: jai john on August 08, 2007, 07:59:02 AM
yeah size is a factor but not a significant one as  skill or SPEED
yeah ...I was wondering how mexico reach so far in world football and why dey doh complain how we bigger dan dem when dey playing we ??? ..and China would stand a better chance if dey include Yao ming according to some pundits on dis site ... while we at it... Shaquille O niel striking for de US go be unstoppable..he could play post up just like in de NBA and score all de corners and crosses !!!
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Post by: kingman on August 08, 2007, 08:15:41 AM
Well well well, seems like Anton needed some help from Jan Van Deinsen as he did in the deciding game against Jamaica....needed some better tactical adjustment  :devil: Hope they pick it up before the WC.

Kingman
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: grskywalker on August 08, 2007, 08:29:56 AM
allyuh see d size ah da numba 9?...wa eva dem eatin put it on we menu


He certainly stands out and dwarfs our players
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 08, 2007, 08:35:50 AM
Completely irrelevant sidenote
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Tell me that kit not looking fresh.

That is not the away shirt with the home pants?  ???
Yes it is. I know its not new but I just find it look cool.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: weary1969 on August 08, 2007, 09:14:06 AM
For somebody who realllllllllll hate on dem uniform they look crisp I must admit
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Post by: jamaica2099 on August 08, 2007, 09:23:24 AM
 ??? ??? ??? :o :o  :-\ :-\  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
 ??? I'm just speechless.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: weary1969 on August 08, 2007, 09:29:11 AM
JA2099 u should b becaue is all yuh we beat in JA so that they could b in Holland today in route to South Korea. Please find an atlas and look for the country that is as close as u guys will get to it. Loud steupssssss
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: jamaica2099 on August 08, 2007, 09:36:38 AM
JA2099 u should b becaue is all yuh we beat in JA so that they could b in Holland today in route to South Korea. Please find an atlas and look for the country that is as close as u guys will get to it. Loud steupssssss
Hmmm! Let's see. After the Young Boyz 2nd place finish in Brazil nothing will happen until next year for the Reggae Boyz and Girlz. The same can be said of T&T after the U-17 World Cup where my previous prediction will carry true in the World Cup for T&T.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: weary1969 on August 08, 2007, 09:41:06 AM
U also predicted that JA would go. Dem fellas can only learn from the expereince so enjoy u time off concentrate yuh efforts on yuh JDF  President who u luv and make sure u name on the list for Aug 27 and gives us a break. Go campaign 4 Bruce
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Post by: dwn on August 08, 2007, 09:46:05 AM
yeah size is a factor but not a significant one as  skill or SPEED
yeah ...I was wondering how mexico reach so far in world football and why dey doh complain how we bigger dan dem when dey playing we ??? ..and China would stand a better chance if dey include Yao ming according to some pundits on dis site ... while we at it... Shaquille O niel striking for de US go be unstoppable..he could play post up just like in de NBA and score all de corners and crosses !!!

bottom line is size a factor. look at crouch. the man height gives him a real advantage on anything in the air. and that can have a huge impact on set pieces etc. but as you say, is not everything.

on a side note:

mexico national team players might be bigger than ours actually. i remember seeing mexico line up next to trinidad in the stadium and making that observation. mexicans (as a people) on average are short people but their football team isnt really. at least not compared to trinidad who (at senior level even) seems to have one of the smallest teams. i remember beckham, whos look average size, look real big next to most of our players when the teams line up at the WC.
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: jamaica2099 on August 08, 2007, 01:38:10 PM
U also predicted that JA would go. Dem fellas can only learn from the expereince so enjoy u time off concentrate yuh efforts on yuh JDF  President who u luv and make sure u name on the list for Aug 27 and gives us a break. Go campaign 4 Bruce
Well. This prediction will definately come true in September.  ;D 
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Big Magician on August 08, 2007, 09:20:42 PM
haul yuh stinking f#ckin mudder c#nt boy 2099.... go and look for britz
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 09, 2007, 05:15:02 AM
U also predicted that JA would go. Dem fellas can only learn from the expereince so enjoy u time off concentrate yuh efforts on yuh JDF  President who u luv and make sure u name on the list for Aug 27 and gives us a break. Go campaign 4 Bruce
Well. This prediction will definately come true in September.  ;D 
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Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: Brownsugar on August 09, 2007, 05:44:06 AM
I still have a good feeling about this team.
I can't wait for the actual tournament.

These youths have all mih support unequivocal, win or loss.

Ah second and third dat!!!..... :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T U-17s concede heavy in first warm up on Dutch turf.
Post by: morvant on August 09, 2007, 08:10:22 AM
at least the kits look fresh

them could hit ah zen now normal
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Post by: GunnerStunner on August 09, 2007, 08:50:03 AM
heads up fellas we knwo allyuh smart enough skilled enough and strong enough to grow form these and shwo the world what were made of down here!
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