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Sports => Football => Topic started by: kentsoulman on October 13, 2007, 04:16:47 AM
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If elections for TTFF are every 4 years, how come its taken 5 years and 2 months since the last one? (sept 02)
Also, heres one for you bar room lawyers...... TTFA is the recognised appointed football administration organisation. It is still in existence. TTFF is a limited company. Who suddenly decided to allow TTFF to take over from TTFA? TTFA is a non profit organisation. TTFF has shareholders/directors. Does this mean that profits/dividends are being paid? Why did FIFA choose to recognise TTFF when TTFA was still in existence?
If somebody could figure out how to be elected to TTFA, they could legally oppose TTFF for their right to represent football.
Now, I'm not being cynical here, but is it possible, if you have the right connections in FIFA and everybody in T&T scared of you, to form a company and say "from today, we are running football", take profits from the company and organise elections that you can control, and have no public accountability?
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;D ;D ;D
The devil is in the detail.
Jack just have TTFA rubber stamping the "company" TTFF.
Somebody should look at the TTFA constitution and the zones recognised by it and whether they still exist and have functioning committees.
You'll probably see that they just meet "on paper to rubber stamp.
When next I'm home I'll pose the question to an ex pres of TTFA
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so what really happen to all dem clubs,zones and officials in TnT.Dey does just sit back and take all dis Sh!t just so ?
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VFFOTT meets to disband TTFF
T&T Guardian
The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) membership will meet with Football Clubs and Stakeholders on Sunday from 10:30 am at the Paragon Sports Club, Cocorite, located near to the Westshore Medical Centre.
The VFFOTT stakeholders meeting will focus on immediate action with respect to the removal of recognition of the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) as the governing btody for football in T&T. Selby Browne, VFFOTT vice-president confirmed, the Football Stakeholders include: players, administrators, coaches, referees, trainers, managers, team owners, league operators, sponsors and team supporters, who will also discuss issues associated with the structure, administration, organization, operation and management of football in the country.
Browne also indicated the documents to be reviewed include the following:
*The T&T Football Association (TTFA), incorporated by an Act of Parliament, Number 17, 1982, which empowers all clubs to run their Football Association after the history of an unincorporated association of individual Clubs that dates back to 1908.
*The TTFF, registered in 2006, as an Individual Trader in the name of Sole Trader, Oliver Camps, approved upon application dated April 4, 2006.
The submission was made to the Parliament in 2009, Act No. 18 of 2009, to have the TTFF, incorporated to replace the TTFA. This action was never approved and lapsed in 2010 when Parliament was prorogued. VFFOTT and football Stakeholders will therefore join in open dialogue and cooperation, to return the highest standard of football, administration, operation and management to our common goal to- "Move Football Forward in Trinidad and Tobago”.
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Coops, you in this?
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Coops, you in this?
steups Deeks what kinda shit question is this?
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Now this is what da fack i'm talking bout!!!!!!
this is what i was suggesting all along, but ppl thought i was being hard on the local base, now look, ppl getting together and saying enough already! @ last, some body wid enough balls, commitment and know how to tell the TTFF tuh go shove it! well done fellas, and i wish allyuh the best of luck! :salute:
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Good Stuff. :applause:
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Coops, you in this?
steups Deeks what kinda shit question is this?
Coops tell we he going home to rest. But it look like he went to start the revolution.
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Yeah? The "stakeholders" suddenly come to life? Why because the TTFF eh getting no more money from Government? Everybody pocket empty now or what? Is only cynicism 'till something concrete.
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:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Yeah? The "stakeholders" suddenly come to life? Why because the TTFF eh getting no more money from Government? Everybody pocket empty now or what? Is only cynicism 'till something concrete.
Well bring something concrete that we could @ least take some solace in nah? this rash remark wid nothing substantial is just hear say.
i really don't care if those crooks/ men have an agenda, or they suddenly got an epiphany tuh do the right thing, i don't care! i just welcome someone else trying to do something better than the share and utter madness these present bunch has been doing, which is absolutely nothing!
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Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.
Anyone here attending ?
For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.
Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...
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FPATT??
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what vb said
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Yeah? The "stakeholders" suddenly come to life? Why because the TTFF eh getting no more money from Government? Everybody pocket empty now or what? Is only cynicism 'till something concrete.
VFFOTT always been active... these things take time. When I was home for Carnival I walk across to a VFFOTT function in the Plex in Barataria. Brendon Batson and Football Supporter was some of the guest speakers.
Better late than never and these older heads finally wake up. Jack had them under serious manners for 30 years. If they succeed they will effectively remove power from the zonal heads and place it back in the clubs, players and referees associations! :beermug:
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these fellas have been planning and holding meetings for a while, is not just a setta greedy people who hungry for government money. i believe they will burn out the ttff for good. and even if they don't fully succeed this action will stir up some honest and frank discussion about the SHYTE still going on in this game the football establishment dancing away from.
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these fellas have been planning and holding meetings for a while, is not just a setta greedy people who hungry for government money. i believe they will burn out the ttff for good. and even if they don't fully succeed this action will stir up some honest and frank discussion about the SHYTE still going on in this game the football establishment dancing away from.
:beermug:
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This is promising!
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Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.
Anyone here attending ?
For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.
Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...
Whhhhhaaaaatttt????!!!! Me??!!! Hoss, you feel I want Jack show up by my house with Brig. Maharaj and the boys in green to bulldoze mih apartment??!! Ah fraid Jack!!! :nailbiting: :nailbiting:
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Wish I could make this, but personal commitments prevent it.., I wish them well, these are a bunch of people who eat, drink,sleep, dream football... will support them fully in their endevours going forward
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When I was home for Carnival
That reminds me......yuh set we up eh...... :waiting: :waiting: :)
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When I was home for Carnival
That reminds me......yuh set we up eh...... :waiting: :waiting: :)
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When I was home for Carnival
That reminds me......yuh set we up eh...... :waiting: :waiting: :)
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:whistling:
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VFFOTT will be on the Sunday morning show "Showdown" on I95.5 fm discussing their issues with the TTFF.....show starts at 10 am to 2 pm. Not sure exactly what time VFFOTT will be on.....
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VFFOTT will be on the Sunday morning show "Showdown" on I95.5 fm discussing their issues with the TTFF.....show starts at 10 am to 2 pm. Not sure exactly what time VFFOTT will be on.....
So u will b listening and give us a lil report. Thanks
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Do you guys expect to send a bunch of retired broke men to fight a battle they cannot win. ?
I guarantee nothing will come of this.
These fools trying to beg the government to give Randy Samuel a medal and he NEVER represented T&T.
What fools.
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Yu know something,coming home have made me realize how much shyt people on this forum does be posting.
Man talking about Coops afraid of Jack etc etc get alyu facts before yu post and stop the shyt talk,this is the the reason we not getting any where.
May be you all are now hearing about this 0rganization but it has been around for some time now,every single one one of the members are my personal friends because they are all ex Footballers.
i attended this meeting because i am in the country and was invited,it was my first so i made into an occasion to meet friends i had not seen for donkey years,i did not speak just observed and listen to get an idea on what this whole thing is about,it had several speakers,being my first i will hold my comments.I took the opportunity to meet our dear friend Brown Sugar who was the only female at the function,she said the pray to open proceedings,she can attest to i being there and when my name was mentioned she didn't know who Cooper was.
The thing with Coops you have to expect me to appear any where at any time,i hang with the good,bad and ugly,i am now getting my feet wet.
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Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.
Anyone here attending ?
For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.
Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...
I attended the meeting,what is it you expected of me?what is your problem?i home,i'm trying to update myself on what's going on before making decisions.What is it you doing?
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Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.
Anyone here attending ?
For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.
Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...
I attended the meeting,what is it you expected of me?what is your problem?i home,i'm trying to update myself on what's going on before making decisions.What is it you doing?
Coops,
you taking on dese fellas?
VB
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Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.
Anyone here attending ?
For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.
Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...
I attended the meeting,what is it you expected of me?what is your problem?i home,i'm trying to update myself on what's going on before making decisions.What is it you doing?
Coops,
you taking on dese fellas?
VB
CO-SIGNNNNN
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Yu know something,coming home have made me realize how much shyt people on this forum does be posting.
Man talking about Coops afraid of Jack etc etc get alyu facts before yu post and stop the shyt talk,this is the the reason we not getting any where.
May be you all are now hearing about this 0rganization but it has been around for some time now,every single one one of the members are my personal friends because they are all ex Footballers.
i attended this meeting because i am in the country and was invited,it was my first so i made into an occasion to meet friends i had not seen for donkey years,i did not speak just observed and listen to get an idea on what this whole thing is about,it had several speakers,being my first i will hold my comments.I took the opportunity to meet our dear friend Brown Sugar who was the only female at the function,she said the pray to open proceedings,she can attest to i being there and when my name was mentioned she didn't know who Cooper was.
The thing with Coops you have to expect me to appear any where at any time,i hang with the good,bad and ugly,i am now getting my feet wet.
Yes Coop's it was finally nice to meet you.... :) I haven't handed in an official report to Flex for posting as yet cuz its just been really, really, really hectic week. I will try to organise it between today and tomorrow. Before Flex ban mih.... :)
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Coops, cool nah man.
I was breaking chops from all de old talk in de past.
Glad to see you home, enjoy yourself boss.
Glad to see u was impress with Terry Fenwick training.
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VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.
The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.
By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.
"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.
VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.
The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.
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VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.
The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.
By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.
"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.
VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.
The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.
This is why I cyar stand this pack ah jokers. Is years ago right here on this website/forum, that men was querying, "who is TTFF!!??", and what happened to the TTFA, and how come this new organization TTFF just so could command so much tax payer funds without seemingly any accountability or question from anybody who should care, such as these "stakeholders". Is now they coming at the 99th hour with this half hearted bullshit? After so much damage is done?
Steeuupps.......
They are the problem!!!
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VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.
The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.
By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.
"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.
VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.
The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.
This is why I cyar stand this pack ah jokers. Is years ago right here on this website/forum, that men was querying, "who is TTFF!!??", and what happened to the TTFA, and how come this new organization TTFF just so could command so much tax payer funds without seemingly any accountability or question from anybody who should care, such as these "stakeholders". Is now they coming at the 99th hour with this half hearted bullshit? After so much damage is done?
Steeuupps.......
They are the problem!!!
To be fair, some of these guys have been on this since at least 2007. I know this coz thats when I met Tansley Thompson and he explained the whole sordid history to me!!
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When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.
Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.
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When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.
Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.
Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA
The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.
However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.
In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.
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When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.
Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.
Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA
The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.
However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.
In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.
Yuh iz a man doh talk by de seat ah yuh pants and I actually never knew the difference between the two, if this is in fact the case, yeah, forward ever backward never, what a waste of a footballing talent and legacy with an incredibly bankrupt admin; shudder to think of where we could have been on the at least regional scale. But the usual end to such a discourse is "who say beers"
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When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.
Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.
Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA
The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.
However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.
In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.
I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.
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I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.
If TTFF get disbanded. We just get a new set a people. It have plenty former ball players and capable people who stay away for football becuase of Jack and company. It have Selby, Tansley, Steve David. And all those who oppose the present regime. I want to say you, but I would prefer you take it easy.
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I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.
If TTFF get disbanded. We just get a new set a people. It have plenty former ball players and capable people who stay away for football becuase of Jack and company. It have Selby, Tansley, Steve David. And all those who oppose the present regime. I want to say you, but I would prefer you take it easy.
also if de new set of people doing sh!t... it will be easier to vote dem out...
but then again :-\ look how that working for we government... we voting de same sh!thongs in and out for umpteen years :'(
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VFFOTT meets to decide on legal action to save T&T football
VFFOTT Secretariat
The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) membership will meet with football clubs and stakeholders to decide on taking legal action to save football in Trinidad and Tobago.
The meeting will be held on Saturday 6th October 2012, at the Barataria Sportplex, Barataria, located opposite the Barataria Oval, at 10:30 am.
The VFFOTT stakeholders meeting will focus on immediate action with respect to the removal of recognition of the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) as the governing body for football in T&T.
Mr. Selby Browne, Vice President, VFFOTT, confirmed Clubs from East Trinidad and all football stakeholders are invited.
Football stakeholders include: players, administrators, coaches, referees, trainers, managers, team owners, league operators, sponsors and team supporters, who will also discuss issues associated with the structure, administration, organization, operation and management of football in the country.
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Without knowing much about this. . .Hoping for the best.
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How could a bunch of broke rejects help T&T football ?
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I cant wait to see this joke unfold.
Gally tried and now he is in Couva macco-ing young girls playing cricket.
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I'll tell you guys what, have VFFOTT call Jack, he will gladly help take down the current TTFF.
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VFFOTT again states: “It cannot be business as usual with the TTFF”
VFFOTT Secretariat
Mr. Selby Browne, Vice President of the Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) says the sole legal body to run football in this Republic is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, established by an Act of the Parliament - Act 17 of 1982.
Based on information that the TTFF plans to hold an election under their Constitution on November 11th 2012, along with the sad state of football and the poor treatment to footballers in this Republic, VFFOTT has written to the TTFF calling for an urgent meeting between representatives of the TTFF and VFFOTT within seven (7) days, at a Port of Spain venue, date and time, convenient to the TTFF, in the interest of putting football right in Trinidad and Tobago.
Failing such a meeting, VFFOTT will take the action necessary to restore football to its pristine status, after the steep plunge and will do what’s right to place due recognition to the major asset of the football family, the present footballers and the generations to come.
VFFOTT also calls on the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Mrs. Kamla Persad Bissessar to have the Government of this Republic recognize the Laws of Trinidad and Tobago with specific reference to Act 17 of 1982, as well as ensure payment is made to the National Footballers of World Cup 2006, as ordered by the Court, for a contract they entered into with Austin Jack Warner, her Minister of National Security.
VFFOTT will hold a Footballers Stakeholders Convention on Sunday 4th November 2012 at the Barataria Sportplex, Barataria at 10.30 am, at which a Trinidad and Tobago Football Executive Committee would be elected.
VFFOTT is committed to working along with the new Trinidad and Tobago Football Executive Committee to ensure the refocusing, restructuring and the proper development of football with focus on the quality of the game, the footballers and administration of integrity, says VFFOTT, Vice President, Mr. Selby Browne.
Mr. Selby Browne confirmed, VFFOTT has an excellent response from football stakeholders, including clubs registered under the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, (TTFA) Footballers, Coaches, Trainers, Sponsors and Fans, interested in joining with VFFOTT to work together on a return of football in Trinidad and Tobago to its glory days of global recognition and respect.
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I do not know who is worst, Central FC, the 06 Warriors or VFFOTT.
Wake me up when anyone actually listens to these Imbeciles.
If they want the TTFF, they need to get in touch with Warner.
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One of de first tings Tim Kee need to address is this TTFF/TTFA issue. Yuh cyar still be operating unde ah company wit Camps listed as de owner. :bs:
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Flex it look like Horner infiltrate the site.
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One of de first tings Tim Kee need to address is this TTFF/TTFA issue. Yuh cyar still be operating unde ah company wit Camps listed as de owner. :bs:
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