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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Tallman on August 22, 2005, 02:09:43 PM

Title: Russell Latapy Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2005, 02:09:43 PM
Latapy messages

All messages concerning Latapy's return will be merged to the It is official, LATAPY IS BACK !!! (http://www.socawarriorssc.com/swonline/smf/index.php?topic=3218.0) thread. Too many similar posts (regarding Latapy's return) were being created as separate topics.

Title: The Latapy Factor
Post by: Savannah boy on September 03, 2005, 10:54:51 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_sports?id=99841341

Guatemala coach have big talk considering the three teams dey have to play next.
Title: Latas magic does it again Falkirk3 Hibs 2
Post by: Ngozi on November 20, 2005, 10:37:44 AM
Hibernian 2-3 Falkirk
PA


Falkirk produced a stunning second-half comeback to grab a 3-2 win in a pulsating encounter at Easter Road.A double from October young player of the month Darryl Duffy and an Alan Gow strike were enough to cancel out Derek Riordan's first-half brace on an incredible afternoon in the capital.Hibs seemed to be in total control at half-time with a 2-0 lead, but John Hughes' outfit deserve massive credit for the way they battled their way back into the match.A high-tempo start to the second period blew their hosts away and left the home defence panicking at every Falkirk attack.Duffy's winner sealed the win, but how Tony Mowbray's side will rue throwing away the chance to pull themselves 11 points clear of Rangers.The Leith men could not have dreamed of a better start to the match as they took the lead after only 35 seconds with a superb strike from Derek Riordan.Frenchman Guillaume Beuzelin took control of some loose play in the middle of the pitch and tried to pick out Garry O'Connor's run with a looping pass over the top of the visitors' defence.When the ball broke off the Scotland striker's heels and into the path of Riordan, the top scorer had only one thing in mind and he arced a magnificent shot over the despairing dive of Matt Glennon and into the net.Falkirk responded in superb fashion to such an early setback, settling into the game with a spell of possession which eventually saw them carve out chances galore.Stephen O'Donnell and Alan Gow glanced went close and Riordan swerved a shot across goal and wide.O'Donnell kept out Hibs skipper Gary Caldwell's bullet header from Kevin Thomson's corner but, with 32 minutes on the clock, Hibs got a second and it was another from Riordan.Scott Brown, revelling in the game after making his Scotland debut last weekend, was dumped unceremoniously by Tiago in a challenge which earned the Portuguese defender a yellow card.It was a perfect are for Riordan, who curled a sublime shot round the wall and into Glennon's top corner from 25 yards out.Hibs were becoming their own worst enemies at this point, however, as their poor passing from defence put themselves into trouble and Steven Thomson and Darryl Duffy both came close to pulling one back.Falkirk finally got the goal their play deserved in a tremendous opening to the second period.O'Donnell lifted a fantastic cross over the Hibs cover from the left and Duffy, guilty of spurning two glorious chances before the break, made no mistake this time, glancing his volley past Zibi Malkowski.The home side were stunned into action by the goal and poured forward in an effort to restore their two-goal advantage.There was a moment of controversy in the 55th minute as the far-side linesman flagged to signal a breach of the pass-back rules when Matt Glennon lifted a loose ball in his goalmouth.And referee Steve Conroy's failure to agree with his assistant was to prove crucial as Falkirk swept up the field to grab a dramatic equaliser.Duffy turned Gary Caldwell in the centre circle to kick-start a lightning break, with his threaded pass being brilliantly knocked past Malkowski under pressure by Alan Gow.The strike was testament to the Bairns' refusal to give up and was no less than they deserved for a magnificent, whirlwind opening to the second period.Sproule then had a run and shot held by Glennon and Craig Ireland did well to deflect a Derek Riordan shot on the turn round the post.O'Connor, Kevin Thomson and Steven Whittaker saw shots narrowly miss the target as Hibs tried to hit back, but their panicky defence looked likely to gift chances at every turn.Duffy and Riordan both had volleys save as the game continued to rage from end to end, and Falkirk incredibly got themselves in front to cap a wonderful comeback.Substitute Russell Latapy worked some magic on the left flank and cut the ball back for the supporting Kenny Milne.Malkowski appeared have his cross covered but, under pressure from Duffy, appeared to spill the ball against the striker and it ended up in the net.Hibs manager Tony Mowbray threw on Sam Morrow and Dean Shiels in a bid to find a way back into the match and Duffy was denied the chance to grab a hat-trick as he was replaced by Pedro Moutinho.

Title: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Grande on December 15, 2005, 07:53:05 PM
One of the kind members of this forum, Ruggy, is the matchday media officer for Falkirk and a good friend of Russell Latapy. He also took the photo that is my avatar.

Given that Russell is now de proud father of a newborn baby (de future magician of T&T football  ;D ), ALL of us on this forum must take de time to send congratulations and best wishes to our beloved hero. Ruggy has offered to deliver these messages personally to Latas himself, so everybody put your blessings on THIS THREAD!! MAKE SURE eh! A big SOCA WARRIOR thanks, Ruggy.  :beermug:
Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: palos on December 15, 2005, 07:59:35 PM
Congrats Latas and family!!

Blessings in abundance fuh we magician and here's wishing Russell Junior good health, prosperity, and a red, white, & black #10 jersey to wear in 15 years time!!  ;D
Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: Grande on December 15, 2005, 08:05:27 PM
Many congratulations and richest blessings for your newborn, Russel Junior, Latas!


We are all happy for you & wish him a lifetime of happiness and good health.

Thank you for comin back to the Warriors - in our minds, you never left - to help us to qualify for our first ever World Cup finals. You deserve to feel every piece of joy that our nation has felt.
Keep up the great performances for Falkirk! You are the heart of the Soca Warriors and it will be an honour and a privilege to see you play in Germany.  :beermug:
Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: ladywarrior on December 15, 2005, 08:07:17 PM
 What a year it has been for you! Much love to you Russell and write it all down, cherish it so your son can read it and be proud!
Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: Big Magician on December 15, 2005, 08:14:16 PM


                                            LATAPY JR
                                                 10

  GOD BLESSINGS MAGICO........NOW WE HAVE TO FIGHT OFF THE SCOTLAND FA FOR THE LITTLE LITTLE MAGICIAN...AND FIGHT OFF PORTUGAL FOR "JOAO"
Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: Ruggy on December 15, 2005, 08:20:37 PM
You all will have no idea how much this will mean to Russ and his family. This is fantastic!

I will be seeing him on Saturday, but I will hold off on delivering these messages until the 31st December because I want as many people as possible to get a chance to wish him well!

You are a good lot of people!
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Jumbie on December 15, 2005, 08:26:40 PM
Congrats to the Latapy family. From one father to another..there's no greater joy.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 15, 2005, 08:40:45 PM
I know yuh have ah ball hanging from his crib already

congrats all the same
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: trinbago on December 15, 2005, 09:18:34 PM
Congrats to my hero. Sir, you have no clue what it means to me that your are back. You're the gift that keeps on givng your magic and wonder...and now you have another miracle in your new born.

I would like to put a short quote of a letter I wrote To a certain Mr. Corneal dated 27/01/05:

".....Now, let me talk about why I am writing. Sir, I do not pretend to be an expert on football or a coach but I do follow as an avid fan both on the local and international level. I strongly believe we can make it to Germany 2006. I write to you to make a simple suggestion. Please work to get Latapy back in our football in some fashion, be it as a player, assistant coach or both. I am not going to make arguments as to why he should be included in any of those capacities as his magic speaks for itself. Its time to bring some of that magic which is clearly recognized outside of Trinidad back home...."
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: TnTVillan on December 15, 2005, 09:29:02 PM
Congrats Magician. Best wishes and looking forward to seeing you in Germany 2006.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Lil Jodie P on December 15, 2005, 09:30:34 PM
Russ...this has been such a sepctaucluar year...for you and for trinidad and tobago. you did your country proud and now you have a little one to be proud of! congrats man...children are blessings...gifts from God. only good things can come form this! i wish you allthe best and blessings God has to offer. and i hope you dont lose too much sleep staying up with baby....you need your rest too!
Cheers man you did well!!!
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on December 15, 2005, 09:55:06 PM
Like the man say in the report that there was a lot of emails pleading for LATAS to give it one more go and I was one of them so I have to say to LATAS and his Family a great big THANK YOU

THANK YOU  for coming back for one last hurrah and THANK YOU [/color] for all the years of dedicated service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THANK YOU
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: trinidad badboy on December 15, 2005, 10:19:20 PM
cograts latas     :cheers:


nuff blessings....
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 15, 2005, 10:58:14 PM
congrats an your latest addition.obviously yuh able to work magic off d field as well ;). anyway,pleeeeeeeeeeeeease keep fit, because i defininitely want to see you in germany.

as soon as the baby could eat solid food, just make sure he taste ah pelau or a doubles first. no scottish food for he. he need to b healthy and strong fo world cup 2022

take care latas.

bless!!
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: palos on December 15, 2005, 11:04:36 PM
as soon as the baby could eat solid food, just make sure he taste ah pelau or a doubles first. no scottish food for he. he need to b healthy and strong fo world cup 2022

take care latas.

bless!!

Warrior Queen..yuh know de ting self.  If not a pelau or doubles, at least a souse or buljol or sumting.  Dem Scots have a ting dey does call Haggis.  Lawd a Mussee.  Jes mek sure de chile eat de trini style fuss eh because if he have Haggis as he fuss real meal....ah tink he Scottish fuh life wee... ;D
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 15, 2005, 11:11:12 PM
A MILLION THANKS Russell. I have been supporting you since 1983 when you played under 16 and every step you have made I have been there.

The day you returned to the soca warriors they got my 115 % support vat included.

Thank you for making 11/16 the happiest day of my 36 years on planet earth.

All the best to the newest magician in ah dey area. 
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: DeSoWa on December 15, 2005, 11:18:17 PM
CONGRATS MR. LATAS!!! Nice way to end the year..now you have more to look forward to in the near future, nice way to keep the # 10 Alive in sweet TnT. Also like to wish you and your family a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR 2006. See you in Germany 2006.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: STEUPS!! on December 15, 2005, 11:24:37 PM
as he get teeth, cassava , dasheen an yam one time. go b d strongest baby in d nursery
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: trinbago on December 15, 2005, 11:30:42 PM
as he get teeth, cassava , dasheen an yam one time. go b d strongest baby in d nursery
:rotfl:

Also some Oil dong and callalaoo with pig foot
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: BigToe on December 16, 2005, 12:31:11 AM
Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy. May God bless, guide and protect him. Hope mom and baby are doing well.





Title: Re: SEND LATAS YOUR CONGRATULATIONS & BEST WISHES HERE!!
Post by: Kenny on December 16, 2005, 02:57:54 AM


                                            LATAPY JR
                                                 10

  GOD BLESSINGS MAGICO........NOW WE HAVE TO FIGHT OFF THE SCOTLAND FA FOR THE LITTLE LITTLE MAGICIAN...AND FIGHT OFF PORTUGAL FOR "JOAO"

Haha, go on, please can we have him? ;D :P

Congratulations, Russell, but give the Dons a rest next time Falkirk play us, eh? :beermug:
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: AB.Trini on December 16, 2005, 03:20:16 AM
Immediately sign dat child up with the TTFF; leh meh see World cup 2018? doh leh dat  boy get confused like Zamora and Jloyd. Let the birth rights go to TTFF.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Jefferz on December 16, 2005, 04:54:07 AM
dat child will be breakin up d house wit some in no time better make sure an tell him to only juggle with his eyes closed OUTSIDE.  :rotfl:   

congrats Russel!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: rastafari on December 16, 2005, 07:15:46 AM
Congratulations and blessings to Latas and the family, for the new addition to the family.

Thanks for coming back to play for T&T.


JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: RasIred on December 16, 2005, 07:38:44 AM
Blessings and Guidance to the Latapy clan. We have a young magician to groom . Lattas I hope that the chile go play for Trini if he good........ ;D

Congrats Russell , do yuh thing breds
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: RGarcia on December 16, 2005, 08:55:15 AM
Yeah Latas way to go by keeping the bloodline running. Wish family the blessings you all deserve ENT!
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Israel on December 16, 2005, 09:06:04 AM
I just want to say seasons greetings to Russell and his family. Congrats on tour your baby boy and also for helping us reach the world cup. May God continue to richly bless you.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: morvant on December 16, 2005, 09:07:20 AM
doh forget to take him tru lavantille ;D

let him play fuh malick too :beermug:
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: TrinInfinite on December 16, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
blessings latas, congrats on de baby and hope u keep healthy 4 ur dream date wit destiny

vibes it up
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Jahyouth on December 16, 2005, 10:02:09 AM
Blessings Latas.  I have been watching you since the big afro days, to the wave cut days, now the dread!  Congrats on the newest addition to the family!  Please make sure young Russell knows how much of a hero you are to us in our little country.  Your autographed photo is on my Wall of Fame at home next to Maradona, Pele, Platini and Ian Rush (hey I was a big Liverpool fan in the 80s!)

Thanks also for guiding us to the World Cup!  I am one of the people who organized the plan to flood Falkirk with emails from Trinidadians asking you to return to the National team.  So if you got in trouble for that it is my fault!

Thanks again skipper
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Baygo Boy on December 16, 2005, 10:37:00 AM
Congratulations Russell and family. Another great addition to our citizenry. Cheers mate(s)  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: maxg on December 16, 2005, 10:40:23 AM
Congratulations and blessings...on behalf of the Montreal crew
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Socaman on December 16, 2005, 12:10:43 PM
Congratulations and blessings to Latas and Family..You have are a lot to be thankful for this year....VIBES IT UP !!!!!!!

Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Filho on December 16, 2005, 12:22:16 PM
Congrats and God bless.....hope mother and baby are doing fine.
Tell Leonson we want him come out a retirement too  ;)

All the best
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: raj on December 16, 2005, 12:56:18 PM
Congratulations to the Latapy family. Hopefully we can see the boy light up the park in 13 years for the Soca Warriors
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Marcos on December 16, 2005, 02:00:08 PM
Congrats
the lil youth gonna be in the lineup next yr!!!
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: !aCkuT on December 16, 2005, 02:09:44 PM
Congrats ,,,,jus remember dat baby is d future magician on T&T squad
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: jaws on December 16, 2005, 03:54:32 PM
thank you Latas for all the memories and we going out with a bang in Germany.......
Congrats on the birth of you new born, hope all is well with the family....


GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!2006
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: christiano on December 16, 2005, 06:09:13 PM
Congrats latas. Anyone knows the baby's Name . Also what are the different nationalities of little Russel ? Trini/Scottish and ?
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Lower St. John on December 16, 2005, 07:25:28 PM
Nothing but the best for a true son of the soil.  Also best wishes to the mum as well.  Hang a ball and a Trinbago flag over the crib and everything will Irie.

Germany awaits your magic and they will be in for a treat.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: nobody_s angel on December 16, 2005, 07:59:57 PM
Congrats to you Russell, May God continue to rain his blessings upon you, and your new baby.

And thanks for never giving up.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Cantona007 on December 16, 2005, 08:23:56 PM
Blessing Latas. The Almighty has blessed you with His talent He has given you in trust, and now he has given you a much bigger blessing.
Take care and God Bless.
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: dills on December 16, 2005, 09:14:11 PM
Congrats on your achievements this year!!To Russell Latapy and family, congrats on the latest addition to your family. This year is truly a blessing for you, Russell, and I hope life continues to be a joy for you and yours. Good luck in the world cup Rus, it's great to have you back!  :beermug:

Best Wishes from Dalini Maharaj  ;D
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: Falkirk and proud on December 18, 2005, 02:54:49 PM
Congrats latas. Anyone knows the baby's Name . Also what are the different nationalities of little Russel ? Trini/Scottish and ?
His wife is Scottish,So here,s hoping he can have the skill of his dad :D
Title: Re: Send Latas your congratulations & best wishes!!!
Post by: SUPA on December 18, 2005, 05:00:27 PM
Blessings and congrats tuh Latas and family, 2005 ah great year fuh u, an 2006 will be even better.
Title: Russell Latapy Thread
Post by: Augi on May 10, 2006, 10:17:52 AM
Tell Russell Thanks...

This day, May 10th 2006,will be the last day that we ever see Russell Latapy, "The Little Magician" don the National Colours on home soil. I want to start this thread to pay continuous tribute to Russell from today right up until his last game in Germany. To tell him thanks for almost 2 decades of invaluable contribution to Trinidad and Tobago on the football field.
I want to invite all other forumites to post your special thanks,tributes,fond memories, rarely seen pictures and video clips of Latas in action.After all he has done for us he deserves every bit.


(http://www.trinidadexpress.com/shared/images/2005/09/04/s1.jpg)

Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: davidephraim on May 10, 2006, 10:25:25 AM
Hip Hip hooray.....  Russell Russell hes our man if he can't do it... (Check Hardest)
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: injunchile on May 10, 2006, 10:40:47 AM
To Whom much is given , much is expected.
 Well Done thou Good and Faithful servant
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: trininess on May 10, 2006, 10:44:33 AM
ey russell if u eva get a chance to see dese posts .... thanks fuh d years of inspiring, knowledgabe and disciplined football....i know iz a man in university balling now, and uz one ah my big inspirations, since i small pops tyaking me to the stadium and the oval to watch u give defenders horrors...so thanks and congrats on all ur accomplishments...ah noe d saying is "save d best fuh last" hopefully we see dat in germany, ah yuh noe yuh goh be safe.......goodluk to latas and d rest ah d warriors....


bless.....
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: MickeyRat on May 10, 2006, 11:12:37 AM
 :'(

De Rat is sad.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Big Magician on May 10, 2006, 11:17:05 AM
check de danger....first time .i saw him was as a ten/eleven yr old....north u-12 vz south u-12...skinner park....i freak tuh f#ck out....jaw dropping talent and control...still amazes me today....god given talent....yuh think mourinho special.../....god bless you my son....
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: MickeyRat on May 10, 2006, 11:29:34 AM
Concacaf U-16 finals.
National Stadium
T&T vs. USA

Latas, thanks for helping our nation get on the footballing map.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: kicker on May 10, 2006, 12:12:26 PM
Thread of the month...

I was gonna start one later...thanks for beatin' me to it...

Thanks to Latas for all the magic & memories over the years. I'll be in Germany to witness the int'l swansong, but I wish I could be in the Stadium tonight for the standing ovation, to shout out my thanks in person, and to see the end of an era on home turf......

Congrats on a job well done, all the best, and cheers to best T&T player in my lifetime.........(along with Leonson Lewis  ;D)

VIBES IT UP !!!


this thread should be a sticky.......
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Pointman on May 10, 2006, 12:21:36 PM
Thank you Russell Latapy for making me proud to be ah Trinbagoian. I've met people from all iver the world tru playing football and almost all of them knew the name Russell Latapy(and Yorke ;D )...much to my delight and amazement.

You've done us proud, thanks for coming back, you're ah true son of the soil. Tears forming in meh eyes as ah type this oui.

All the best in life breds.

One Trini Love!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: DeSoWa on May 10, 2006, 12:30:19 PM
Check de danger....Latapy in ah de area....one final time in home soil :beermug: :beermug: show your magic and thank you for 20+ years of magical football for your country....I am backing you for future coach of the national team...your footballing career as a player might be coming to an end....but the best is yet to come...the journey now start..and we are looking forward to see your magic in a different form in the years to come... :salute: :thumbsup: :wavetowel: :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 10, 2006, 12:30:38 PM
Dear Russell:

Thank you for sweating blood for your country and for showcasing your talent to the rest of the world, so that they could be aware of what Trinidad and Tobago is capable of producing.  Lastly, please enure that your son plays for us. ;)  Thank you brother; you are a true Soca Warrior.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Israel on May 10, 2006, 12:47:05 PM
Mr. Russell Latapy, I would like to thank you for being a exemplar citizen of Trinidad & Tobago. You are truly a one of those players that come once in a lifetime and it maybe a long time till we see someone of your calibre.

I would have liked to be at the Stadium for the game but unfortunately I would be in the chatroom.

Thanks for the great memories ( the bullet against Panama and against Mexico that I saw in person ).

I wish you God's blessings in your future endeavours.

Thanx
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: trinidre on May 10, 2006, 12:59:20 PM
I was just reading all the other posts and tears act like they want to come out of meh eyes.......thanks for everything that you have given me and the people of Trinidad and Tobago...thanks for making us proud to be born in the twin island republic......you are truly the greatest football player ever to come out of T&T....someone said something about saving the best for last well I hope that rings through for you.......I'm sorry I wont be there to witness your last game on home soil but best of look today and in the future and you have my full support to be the next T&T coach


God Bless
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Fyzoman on May 10, 2006, 01:11:19 PM
Big Magican beat meh to it....Skinner Park North V South sometime waaay back in de day.....lil boy....afro bigger than de rest of his body....creating magic with de people football......ah eh know if ah remember dis or if it really happen....but(ah believe) he take ah penalty, and kick it like a big man......that was de start for me....de rest as dey...is history....give thanks Russell Latapy, good luck in Germany, can't wait to see you in charge of de SocaWarriors after you retire...BLESS.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: kicker on May 10, 2006, 01:13:06 PM
ah feel dey hadda delete this thread yes......this thread have a big man gettin' real emotional in de office everytime I revisit it....... :-\
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: samo on May 10, 2006, 01:45:58 PM
Unfortunately I will not be in T&T to see the Great Latapy do his final dance at the stadium.. When I lived in T&T I would go to every game the National team played, always made the extra effort when Latas would be playing. Watching you grace the fields have not only brought joy to me and my family, but to a nation and many others in numerous countries. You are a truly in a class by yourself, and wish you the most heartfelt thanx.
I will see you grace the WC fields in Germany...
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Swima on May 10, 2006, 02:15:58 PM
Well allyuh bring meh out!
As a man who watching football in oval and stadium since the 80's I have to say I am a child of the Latapy era.
From watching him disect the US defence while being bullied by much bigger players in Torrance California in the 1-1 draw in 1989; to seeing him give a Guatemalan defender a wrong address just before slotting the ball home to equalize just last year in the Stadium, the man has shown that his class on a football field is God-given and no man can take it away.
Watching his interview with Andre Baptiste last night, I am certain that his love of football is the main reason for his being back with us. Let's face it, Russel owes everything to football, and not to Trinidad and Tobago. We, on the other hand, as patriatic football fans, owe quite a bit to Russel Latapy!
God bless and good luck in the future.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: grskywalker on May 10, 2006, 02:30:05 PM
I will always be a fan of Russell Latapy the greatest all round footballer Trini has seen. I met Russell a couple of times back in the day through my other buddy Colin Rocke, when they were preparing the under 23 squad back in the 80's.
That team was so incredibly talented, too bad we did not have a Beenhaker around to guide them. Who can also remember that Sado Tech, Signal Hill clash in the Stadium, wow! that was one exciting game and one of the few times the stadium got close to filled.

Russell has done us proud time and time again for the last 20 yrs and will never be replaced, his service has been invaluable, despite his and Dwight's walk out, they have come back one more time  and reached the stars. All good things come to an end and we look forward to June where your genius and knowledge of this game will come full circle and you will stand shoulder to shoulder with the world's best and hold your own.

STANDING OVATION TO YOU RUSSELL  :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy:

NOW GO OUT THERE AND VIBES IT UP!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: kicker on May 10, 2006, 02:35:55 PM
Well allyuh bring meh out!
As a man who watching football in oval and stadium since the 80's I have to say I am a child of the Latapy era.
From watching him disect the US defence while being bullied by much bigger players in Torrance California in the 1-1 draw in 1989; to seeing him give a Guatemalan defender a wrong address just before slotting the ball home to equalize just last year in the Stadium, the man has shown that his class on a football field is God-given and no man can take it away.
Watching his interview with Andre Baptiste last night, I am certain that his love of football is the main reason for his being back with us. Let's face it, Russel owes everything to football, and not to Trinidad and Tobago. We, on the other hand, as patriatic football fans, owe quite a bit to Russel Latapy!
God bless and good luck in the future.

Larrd !!!! De big swima has spoken..we know it serious when we could bring him out of the woodwork......I not sure if you could separate football & Trinidad/Tobago in the case of Latapy.....but you're right..we owe the little magician alot......I hope the turn-out tonight is good....
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: trini supporter on May 10, 2006, 02:41:09 PM
Thanks latas for the great things you have done to our football, to me you are the best player that we have ever produced .HAVE A GREAT WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: palos on May 10, 2006, 02:46:02 PM
Thank you Latas.  Still my favourite T&T footballer and in my top 5 favourite footballers of all time.  It was a privilege to watch you as you first started out, into your prime and to this day.  Best wishes and blessings to you and your family and hoping to see you as T&T national Coach in the very near future!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: grskywalker on May 10, 2006, 02:49:01 PM
Sorry to say ah reading the posts and is like tears filling up in meh eye that he going  :'( :'(

RUSSELL YOU ARE THE BIG DOG !!!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Filho on May 10, 2006, 02:51:17 PM
i love this thread.

LATAAAAAASSSS.....

you are the boss. pure and simple. God bless.
i could go on and on...but i leaving it short cuz words will never capture the magic of Latas

check de flickin' danger
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Augi on May 10, 2006, 03:17:21 PM
I will always be a fan of Russell Latapy the greatest all round footballer Trini has seen. I met Russell a couple of times back in the day through my other buddy Colin Rocke, when they were preparing the under 23 squad back in the 80's.
That team was so incredibly talented, too bad we did not have a Beenhaker around to guide them. Who can also remember that Sado Tech, Signal Hill clash in the Stadium, wow! that was one exciting game and one of the few times the stadium got close to filled.

Russell has done us proud time and time again for the last 20 yrs and will never be replaced, his service has been invaluable, despite his and Dwight's walk out, they have come back one more time  and reached the stars. All good things come to an end and we look forward to June where your genius and knowledge of this game will come full circle and you will stand shoulder to shoulder with the world's best and hold your own.

STANDING OVATION TO YOU RUSSELL  :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :notworthy:

NOW GO OUT THERE AND VIBES IT UP!!!!!!!

grskywalker ...this one is both a tear jerker and a pores raiser. thanks
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: najee on May 10, 2006, 03:28:37 PM
THANK YOU RUSSELL..... FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE...IN REPRESENTING TRINIDAD  AND  TOBAGO TO THE FULLEST
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Socafan on May 10, 2006, 04:42:27 PM
Thanks for the memories..and the possibilities, Latas. Will always remember him and that BIG A$$ AFRO, in that Under 16 tournament in the '80's . Thats when I realize that we have BIG, BIG, BIG, ballers in Trinidad. Waaaaaaaaay above average.

Thanks for everything breds...
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: big dawg on May 10, 2006, 04:54:13 PM
LATAPY.....4 :applause: EVER
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: morvant on May 10, 2006, 05:14:00 PM
russel ah man tell meh ah does beat too much and yuh name came to mind cause he also said if i didnt get off the pass he woulda sub meh.fire bun de rest yuh is the best footballer ever

you teach me the art of involving beating in the game and making it look good.

thank you for making football a game to watch and play :beermug:

if they start cloning men yuh on top ah my list

Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: FF on May 10, 2006, 05:19:17 PM
Thanks Latapy.... for everything!! You will be missed!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: ZionYouth on May 10, 2006, 05:22:47 PM
10... :applause:
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: fari on May 10, 2006, 05:27:08 PM
thank you Latas
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: lp on May 10, 2006, 05:56:57 PM
RUSSELL   LATAPY


Thanks for the memories. God bless and all the best in the future.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: dombasil on May 10, 2006, 06:37:27 PM
Thanks for all the memories and always being a class act.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: chinee boi on May 10, 2006, 06:40:33 PM
Latas thanks for all de good memories...thxs for coming back tuh play for we and help us get to de BIGGEST stage for football.

Yuh make me proud tuh be ah Trini.

Yuh legend will live on, ah go be telling me great grand children about yuh one day.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: The_Ice on May 10, 2006, 07:52:05 PM
yea thanks man... to me will always be one of the best players i ever see... this one is for you   :chilling:
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Big Magician on May 10, 2006, 08:17:36 PM
retire da shirt yes.....


                         LATAPY
                            10
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: AB.Trini on May 10, 2006, 08:19:28 PM
Big praises and thanks fo rthe leadership , legacy and heart.
Latapy for coach 2010. Bring it on!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Augi on May 10, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
retire da shirt yes.....


 LATAPY
 10
Nice Idea !! Does anyone second it?
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: weary1969 on May 10, 2006, 09:40:42 PM
Thank you Latas from the under 16 tournament in 1983 to the last game tonight it has been a joy. The games against Guatemala in 89 when you and Kerry Jamerson made me scream. thank you for coming out of retirement so I came out of retirement.

See you in Germany and yes retire the number 10 unless 1 of your children wants it.
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Trini boi on May 10, 2006, 10:25:03 PM
BIG UP TO LATAS!!!!
THANKS FUH DA MEMORIES & COMING BACK TO HELP US ACHIEVE OUR FIRST WORLD CUP EVER!!!!

TRINI FUH LIFE!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: palos on May 10, 2006, 10:46:01 PM
retire da shirt yes.....


 LATAPY
 10
Nice Idea !! Does anyone second it?

SECONDED, THIRDED, AND 1.3 MILLIONED!!!
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: onlikecorn on May 11, 2006, 01:22:15 AM
thanks mr latapy....my favourite trinidad & tobago player . .. and a great footballer. . thanks for all de memories. . . blessed love. .
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: trinidad badboy on May 11, 2006, 02:12:39 AM


thanks for everything russelll


nuff love....
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Trini Madness on May 11, 2006, 06:33:30 AM
retire da shirt yes.....


 LATAPY
 10
Nice Idea !! Does anyone second it?

 

SECONDED, THIRDED, AND 1.3 MILLIONED!!!

yea definetly

 :salute: LATAPY :salute:
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Bourbon on May 11, 2006, 07:04:31 AM
As i said...he eh no little magician....de man is flipmode merlin. Thanks latas and all the best.  :applause:
Title: Re: Tell Russell Thanks...
Post by: Big Magician on May 11, 2006, 07:38:11 AM
ABRACADABRA
Title: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: palos on June 25, 2006, 07:14:20 AM
Little Magician's final spell

Did Beenhakker blunder?

Lasana Liburd

Sunday, June 25th 2006
 
Source: Trinidad Express
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T&T midfielder Russell Latapy is held back by Carlos Paredes of Paraguay during the World Cup Group B match at the Fritz-Walter Stadium last Tuesday in Kaiserslautern, Germany.

Russell Latapy was outnumbered and, it seemed, cornered. It was the Mixed Zone at the Fritz Walter Stadion, Kaiserslautern and the pint-sized Trinidad and Tobago midfielder had to walk past a scrum of media representatives for the last time as a player.

"Latapy! Latapy! Excuse, Latapy " said reporters, who begged him to stop, with tape recorders at the ready.

A polite nod, erect thumb, dip of the shoulder and Latapy has left the building.

"I know Latapy," said one journalist, "he was upset that he didn't play longer. That was why he didn't stop."

Perhaps the dreadlocked playmaker guessed the sensitive nature of the questions that might come his way after a breathtaking cameo in Trinidad and Tobago's final World Cup Group B match, which ended in a 2-0 loss to Paraguay. Or maybe the 37-year-old "Little Magician" was just tired.

Latapy had almost everyone guessing and, I suspect, he wanted it that way.

Gifted and moody, Latapy affected the emotions of a generation of football fans like no other. At least thrice, he quit the national team. In 1996, he failed to show for a crucial qualifier at home to the United States and was promptly "banned until further notice" by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF).

He walked out alongside close friend and present team captain Dwight Yorke in 2001 after being cut by technical director Rene Simoes for "indiscipline" and initially ignored an invitation to join the 2006 qualifying campaign by T&T coach Leo Beenhakker.

During my stay in Britain, I found Latapy the most elusive subject to pin down for an interview. Yet, once we got together, he surprised me by his forthrightness and analytical mind-most sportsmen view themselves as diplomats or can discuss little beyond their own role in the team.

Just to clear things up, Latapy confessed his love for a puff during an interview in Scotland last year, but it was well below the rumoured "40 fags a day". Latapy, by his account, draws on four or five cigarettes a day while in training and double that amount in the off season.

Whatever his indiscretions, Trinidad and Tobago football fans were always ready to forgive and, despite Latapy being an unwilling interviewee, I would happily alter my schedule for another fascinating chat with the diminutive maestro.

One either loves or hates Latapy and it is damned difficult to despise such a charming player. Everyone has a memorable Latapy move or game. My favourite was his hat-trick in an international friendly against Norway at the Queen's Park Oval in 1996, which ended 3-2, as I was a rookie reporter thrilled to personally meet my hero after the pre-match press conference. But the most moving match involving the player was surely his first and last World Cup appearance on June 20 in Kaiserslautern.


In 23 minutes, he glided past opponents, threaded passes and struck the ball with remarkable technique. Latapy's display did not change the course of the match. Trinidad and Tobago trailed Paraguay 1-0 when he came on and went on to lose 2-0 against a team that started the match without a point and regarded as weaker than earlier group rivals, England and Sweden. So, how did less than half-hour played in a game that seemed lost by the time he came on become the talking point of Trinidad and Tobago's tournament?

Beenhakker was suddenly under fire from the country that previously lauded him as a genius and begged him to remain after the tournament.

FIFA vice-president and T&TFF special advisor Jack Warner, who is essentially his employer, said that Latapy should have been played earlier. West Indies cricket captain Brian Lara, who is also Latapy's close friend, said the midfielder was "under-used".

Beenhakker could not avoid the "Latapy issue" in the post-Paraguay press conference as a Trinidad and Tobago reporter prodded him to admit a perceived error. The Dutchman, a former Real Madrid, Netherlands and Ajax boss, stood his ground.

"If it is one guy who has much respect for the career of Russell Latapy, it is me," said Beenhakker. "Against England and Sweden, we spent 70 minutes trying to get the ball back. With all due respect, the guy is (37) years old It (was) not his game."

Trinidad and Tobago's most successful match in Germany was in Dortmund, on June 10, when the "Soca Warriors" won their first point against Sweden with just ten players.

Arguably, our proudest moments

came in our second fixture against England at Nuremberg.

When Stern John rose over England defender Rio Ferdinand to redirect a Dennis Lawrence header goalward, only for John Terry to enact a panicky goalline clearance, Trinidad and Tobago fans were sure we belonged among the world's best football nations.

And yet, Latapy gave us something less tangible but just as precious and exhilarating. The French call it that certain "je ne sais quoi"-a palpable quality that is difficult to describe or express.

As unwilling as I am to compare players, perhaps a look at Trinidad and Tobago's two greatest footballers, Yorke and Latapy, can shed light on the latter's worth.

Yorke won more distinguished medals in his career than his magical friend, not least the European Champions League title and is-to me, indisputably-the more complete player in terms of his all-round ability. Yorke lacks Latapy's killer pass, within 35 yards of the opposing goal, but he can head, tackle, hold up the ball and switch seamlessly from midfield conductor to hustler to second striker to lone forward.

A fantastic captain, Yorke leads his men by example and the weight of his resume. His teammates marvel over his mastery of the ball and the way genuine stars like David Beckham and Wayne Rooney go out of their way to make his acquaintance. When Yorke tackles, his players switch on; when he shouts, they listen.


And Latapy? All he has to do is step on the pitch and players fall over themselves in their eagerness to please him. A mere gesture from Latapy leaves them spellbound.

When England met Trinidad and Tobago, it seemed that whenever the play became flat English boss Sven-Goran Eriksson sent Rooney to warm up. The very sight of him excited the crowd, whose increased energy level, in turn, lifted the England outfit.

Beenhakker does not do gimmicks and Latapy, at 37, might not have stomached being used as a mascot. But it is clear that the dreadlocked player inspires even beyond what he can do with a football.

In the end, he was a gamble that the experienced Dutch coach did not take and rightly so. Against Sweden, Beenhakker opted to hang on to the point in hand and his employers should be grateful.

The London Times newspaper described his sideline tinkering in that match as the best coaching display of the first round.

Trinidad and Tobago conceded their first goal to England too late to affect major change but, once more, Beenhakker's decision to introduce left winger Evans Wise instead of Latapy seemed reasonable.

England took the lead after a cunning alteration by Eriksson, who moved Beckham to the right back position and it was from this deeper role that he set up the opening goal. By sending Wise out to test Beckham's defensive qualifications, Beenhakker tried to turn England's strength into a weakness. Furthermore, Trinidad and Tobago still had to be mindful of their opponents' quality through the central midfield area and, to underline that point, Steven Gerrard sidestepped Aurtis Whitley to score a superb second for England.

Latapy would not have fared better than Whitley in the defensive third of the field.

It is better to savour the pleasure that Latapy brought to our World Cup campaign than to harbour obstructive grudges.

At Kaiserslautern, we witnessed the end of an era.

Argentina tried, without success, to retire the number 10 shirt after legendary playmaker Diego Maradona ended his international career. Trinidad and Tobago have a better case.

Nowhere, from Point Fortin to Charlotteville, lies a player with Latapy's qualities and I can only hope that one can be unearthed in my lifetime. There was something in the way Latapy danced with the ball and caused others to move along that touched the soul of a people who cannot resist a spontaneous party.

In Germany, I was filled with pride at the heroism and commitment of nearly two dozen of my countrymen. Some performers stood out above others. The composure and class of goalkeeper Shaka Hislop, right back Carlos Edwards and Yorke or the brave, consistent offerings from Dennis Lawrence, Cyd Gray, Brent Sancho and John.

But only one player made my hair stand on end.

You get one guess.
 
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Socafan on June 25, 2006, 07:40:33 AM
Boy this was a great and sad article at the same time. Very nice. End of an era.

Still would have liked to see Latas in all three games. Even against Sweden. His offensive skills would have changed the offensive and defensive posture of both teams everytime he came on the field. I personally believe he would have been most effective against England, and perhaps Sven would have been outcoached and not Beenhacker.

Latas mi boy...hope we get another like you.
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Lower St. John on June 25, 2006, 07:59:17 AM
My No. 10 Jersey will be framed and put on my wall.  Never to be worn again.  I have followed and marvelled at Latapy's play since the 1984 Under 17 Tournament.  He was the best that I have seen in a Trinidad shirt for the last 25-30 years.  I was not fortunate enough to see the Archibald, De Leon, etc. teams.

Thanks again for the memories, Latas.  It is a very sad day to say that "it is over" and I will not take away from Latas moment by commenting on anything else.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Daft Trini on June 25, 2006, 08:04:33 AM
I have already framed my Latapy Strike squad jersey. Latas, you were a boss, thank you for inspiring me back in de day and the kids today.
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 25, 2006, 08:04:48 AM
Boy this was a great and sad article at the same time. Very nice. End of an era.

Still would have liked to see Latas in all three games. Even against Sweden. His offensive skills would have changed the offensive and defensive posture of both teams everytime he came on the field. I personally believe he would have been most effective against England, and perhaps Sven would have been outcoached and not Beenhacker.

Latas mi boy...hope we get another like you.

maybe you should go coach the team
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Socafan on June 25, 2006, 08:31:42 AM
Boy this was a great and sad article at the same time. Very nice. End of an era.

Still would have liked to see Latas in all three games. Even against Sweden. His offensive skills would have changed the offensive and defensive posture of both teams everytime he came on the field. I personally believe he would have been most effective against England, and perhaps Sven would have been outcoached and not Beenhacker.

Latas mi boy...hope we get another like you.

maybe you should go coach the team

What for...Am I a coach?
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: andre samuel on June 25, 2006, 08:33:15 AM
mr lisana libird, it was a pleasure meeting u in dortmund and i must say that this is your best article ever!!

this article nearly brought tears to my eyes!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Grande on June 25, 2006, 11:56:32 AM
yes, beenhakker blundered. But we past that

very nice article  :beermug:

bittersweet
Title: Re: Little Magician's Final Spell
Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2006, 01:11:52 PM
Well said Mr. Liburd...I will forever cherish the memory of standing in that stadium in Kaiserslautern (the only game I actually got entry to) and feeling the electricity in the crowd as first they chanted his name...then later he started warming up..then finally he made his entry and the place went wild.

Godspeed Russell...may we be someday blessed with another player worthy of mention in the same sentence as yourself.
Title: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on July 29, 2006, 08:32:32 AM
well done latapy

LONG LIVE THE MAGICIAN!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick...........1-1 falkirk vs dundee utd.... 30 min
Post by: Jefferz on July 29, 2006, 09:49:56 AM
good lookin out Cheyenne thanks.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick...........1-1 falkirk vs dundee utd.... 30 min
Post by: Rodney on July 29, 2006, 10:35:03 AM
Sweet strike by Lata's....he hit ah bullet direct from the free kick into the top left corner from about 20 yards. He setup the second goal also.
Title: Look like Latapy and Samuel had good games
Post by: FF on July 29, 2006, 11:00:01 AM
From Soccernet
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=198886&cc=3888


Falkirk came from behind to claim an opening day 2-1 win at Dundee United in the Bank of Scotland Premier League.

Barry Robson had given the home side a 17th-minute lead but the Bairns hit back courtesy of playmaker Russell Latapy six minutes later.

But, in the 59th minute, Falkirk midfielder Liam Craig capped a fine display with the winner.

However, on the evidence of the first 90 minutes of the season, United player-manager Craig Brewster and his team could be facing a long, hard campaign.

Brewster named himself in the starting line-up along side new arrival Noel Hunt up front and handed competitive debuts to summer signings Steven Robb and Craig Conway.

Falkirk head coach John Hughes gave goalkeeper Scott Higgins a debut ahead of Jeroen Lambers.

Latapy, fresh from his World Cup exploits with Trinidad and Tobago, was a threat throughout and his prompting appeared to have paid off after 10 minutes but Pedro Moutinho was denied the opener by an offside flag.
However, after Hunt earned the game's first booking for a lunge on Kenny Milne, United took a shock lead.

Robson's surge from left-back saw his initial shot blocked by Tom Scobbie, but the winger was first to the loose ball and he curled his effort past Higgins at the second attempt.

Stung by losing the first goal, Falkirk hit back but the offside flag denied Moutinho for a second time after Derek Stillie had fumbled Craig's shot on the turn.

But they were not to be denied a third time as Latapy nonchalantly drove in a 25-yard free-kick after Alan Gow had been fouled just outside the penalty area.

As the pace of the frenetic opening stages dipped, Latapy became an even greater influence on the proceedings.

However, the Bairns could not find a second goal as Craig passed up three half-chances and Latapy's free-kick was deflected wide by United's defensive wall.


Bairns midfielder Craig found himself pressed into action at the wrong end in the 52nd minute as he became the game's second booking after chopping down Conway and Hunt flashed a header wide from the resulting attack.

But still the visitors enjoyed the bulk of possession and they deservedly took the lead in the 59th minute.

Latapy was the instigator with some brilliant intricate play on the edge of the box and, when he got the break of the ball, a superb threaded pass played in Craig.
The former Ipswich youngster made no mistake, driving his shot across Stillie and into the net from an angle.

Former Falkirk striker Collin Samuel made an immediate impact after his second-half introduction, with his pace causing the visitors' rearguard problems.

When Higgins clutched Robson's free-kick to his chest late on and Mark Kerr's drive was blocked by Milne, Falkirk looked to have secured the points.

But they had a diving save by Higgins to thank for the win as he held Samuel's volley before tipping the Trinidad and Tobago international's drive onto the post in injury time.
Title: Re: Look like Latapy and Samuel had good games
Post by: Jefferz on July 29, 2006, 11:13:13 AM
From Soccernet
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=198886&cc=3888


Falkirk came from behind to claim an opening day 2-1 win at Dundee United in the Bank of Scotland Premier League.

Barry Robson had given the home side a 17th-minute lead but the Bairns hit back courtesy of playmaker Russell Latapy six minutes later.

But, in the 59th minute, Falkirk midfielder Liam Craig capped a fine display with the winner.

However, on the evidence of the first 90 minutes of the season, United player-manager Craig Brewster and his team could be facing a long, hard campaign.

Brewster named himself in the starting line-up along side new arrival Noel Hunt up front and handed competitive debuts to summer signings Steven Robb and Craig Conway.

Falkirk head coach John Hughes gave goalkeeper Scott Higgins a debut ahead of Jeroen Lambers.

Latapy, fresh from his World Cup exploits with Trinidad and Tobago, was a threat throughout and his prompting appeared to have paid off after 10 minutes but Pedro Moutinho was denied the opener by an offside flag.
However, after Hunt earned the game's first booking for a lunge on Kenny Milne, United took a shock lead.

Robson's surge from left-back saw his initial shot blocked by Tom Scobbie, but the winger was first to the loose ball and he curled his effort past Higgins at the second attempt.

Stung by losing the first goal, Falkirk hit back but the offside flag denied Moutinho for a second time after Derek Stillie had fumbled Craig's shot on the turn.

But they were not to be denied a third time as Latapy nonchalantly drove in a 25-yard free-kick after Alan Gow had been fouled just outside the penalty area.

As the pace of the frenetic opening stages dipped, Latapy became an even greater influence on the proceedings.

However, the Bairns could not find a second goal as Craig passed up three half-chances and Latapy's free-kick was deflected wide by United's defensive wall.


Bairns midfielder Craig found himself pressed into action at the wrong end in the 52nd minute as he became the game's second booking after chopping down Conway and Hunt flashed a header wide from the resulting attack.

But still the visitors enjoyed the bulk of possession and they deservedly took the lead in the 59th minute.

Latapy was the instigator with some brilliant intricate play on the edge of the box and, when he got the break of the ball, a superb threaded pass played in Craig.
The former Ipswich youngster made no mistake, driving his shot across Stillie and into the net from an angle.

Former Falkirk striker Collin Samuel made an immediate impact after his second-half introduction, with his pace causing the visitors' rearguard problems.

When Higgins clutched Robson's free-kick to his chest late on and Mark Kerr's drive was blocked by Milne, Falkirk looked to have secured the points.

But they had a diving save by Higgins to thank for the win as he held Samuel's volley before tipping the Trinidad and Tobago international's drive onto the post in injury time.


hmmmmm niiiiiiiiice.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: arrow on July 29, 2006, 11:25:18 AM
all that long quote to say nice  ???  steeps

Brewster needs to bench himself and start Samuel
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Brej on July 29, 2006, 11:27:39 AM
is amazing he could still do it like da at his age
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Grande on July 29, 2006, 11:29:55 AM
it eh look like I get over this Latapy WC thing nah

but damn i wish i could see dat goal

 L A T A P Y
      1 0

edit: Carlos also score for Luton, a right footed bullet straight in de V from outside the box
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: whayuhsay on July 29, 2006, 12:27:40 PM
Long live the KING!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 29, 2006, 12:38:02 PM
Long live the KING!

steups
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on July 29, 2006, 12:44:15 PM
it eh look like I get over this Latapy WC thing nah

but damn i wish i could see dat goal

 L A T A P Y
      1 0

edit: Carlos also score for Luton, a right footed bullet straight in de V from outside the box

yessaahhhh...WC boys roughing dem up. Watford..time to put yuh money where yuh mouth is. Carlos is a premiership level player..
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: SUPA on July 29, 2006, 01:09:08 PM
it eh look like I get over this Latapy WC thing nah

but damn i wish i could see dat goal

 L A T A P Y
      1 0

edit: Carlos also score for Luton, a right footed bullet straight in de V from outside the box

Yuh saying dat like yuh not sure, well ah eh get over it  :(, but leh we doh start dis thing again. Well de GENERAL just being himself.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Ned on July 29, 2006, 01:36:46 PM
anyone like to see his goal ..... Latapy Free Kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iALL-MDcko)   ;)

courtesy of 1876Bairn at thefansclips.com (http://thefansclips.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=93)

Come On Ye Bairns  ;D
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on July 29, 2006, 01:42:51 PM
Wham it had an earthquake going on the same time or what everything
only jumping . :devil:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on July 29, 2006, 01:51:22 PM
anyone like to see his goal ..... Latapy Free Kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iALL-MDcko)   ;)

courtesy of 1876Bairn at thefansclips.com (http://thefansclips.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=93)

Come On Ye Bairns  ;D

thanks Neddo
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Grande on July 29, 2006, 03:29:22 PM
anyone like to see his goal ..... Latapy Free Kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iALL-MDcko)   ;)

courtesy of 1876Bairn at thefansclips.com (http://thefansclips.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=93)

Come On Ye Bairns  ;D

dat was nice. real nice. Thanks Ned.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: trinbago on July 29, 2006, 03:48:07 PM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: SUPA on July 29, 2006, 03:55:10 PM
anyone like to see his goal ..... Latapy Free Kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iALL-MDcko)   ;)

courtesy of 1876Bairn at thefansclips.com (http://thefansclips.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=93)

Come On Ye Bairns  ;D

Thanks Ned. Dat was world class.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: SUPA on July 29, 2006, 03:58:39 PM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

Wahpen, de moderators and dem have family and thing 2 yuh know, it must be dey day off.  ;)
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: trini supporter on July 29, 2006, 04:24:26 PM
Well done latas!!!!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on July 29, 2006, 05:33:22 PM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

 Coventry lost 2-1  Stern play 61mins ..did not score ......come on haters do all yuh ting ?

Latas Big Big Player always
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on July 29, 2006, 08:41:06 PM
respect for the video
but like that tape on a slinky or pogo stick
JESUS CHRIST
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: andre samuel on July 29, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
respect for the video
but like that tape on a slinky or pogo stick
JESUS CHRIST

All yuh have tuh do is jump up and down too while yuh watching it and yuh will see it clear!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: madmonn on July 29, 2006, 08:57:12 PM
Congrats to Latas.....Big player
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: ZionYouth on July 29, 2006, 09:10:25 PM
well done well done :applause:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: whayuhsay on July 30, 2006, 03:10:19 AM
Some break stick in yuh tongue ah wha? 

Why de hate padnah?


Long live the KING!

steups
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: MickBairn on July 30, 2006, 07:01:40 AM
Latas was fantastic yesterday, he controlled the game from start to finish, like a true magician ;D
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: weary1969 on July 30, 2006, 06:17:27 PM
Great way to start the week of celebrations for your birthday.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 30, 2006, 10:01:09 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Rastaman on July 30, 2006, 10:28:13 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I just didn't want to be the one to say it.  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: whayuhsay on July 30, 2006, 11:28:26 PM
Padnah, yuh lucky yuh eh post dat when Leo was still head coach, ah bunch a local haters on dis forum mash meh orp fuh stating the obvious that real Trinis knew was an injustice!

..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: jose on July 31, 2006, 06:34:52 AM
represent little magician
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on July 31, 2006, 06:50:15 AM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)

Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: grskywalker on July 31, 2006, 06:58:59 AM
Latas Rules once again, we forget how much ball this man palys week in and week out, geez Tallman can you find out Latas scoring stats?
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 31, 2006, 07:10:19 AM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)



good talk
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: tartan on July 31, 2006, 02:09:25 PM
he ran the show on saturday which was a disaster from my point of view

the pace has gone but you can't take the skill away
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 31, 2006, 06:54:23 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)



      Come on, Filho.  When I was arguing with men in germany that Latas should have had more playing time, do you think I was basing my argument on what he did this past weekend in the SPL?  We all know that Latas is no longer what he used to be but his prescence on the field up to June 20th of this year was still more valuable to T&T than his prescence on the bench, and his little 24 minutes against Paraguay did prove that.  I threw it out there that he should have had more playing time, Brother, but I wasn't "jumping on ! Scottish League performance to bolster that argument"  We ain't that simple, are we?  Sometimes when a man throws out a post, he's throwing it out for more reasons than one, Padna.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2006, 07:18:51 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on July 31, 2006, 07:21:44 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

Becuz he was TnT second best player in Germany  :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 31, 2006, 07:32:01 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

    You should compare the little 24 minutes that he did play,match them up against the other 246+ minutes that he didn't play let your own conscience answer that one.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2006, 08:16:20 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

    You should compare the little 24 minutes that he did play,match them up against the other 246+ minutes that he didn't play let your own conscience answer that one.


ok yuh know what  latapy would ah dazzle lampard beckham bergkamp etc. he would have given MELLBERG LUCIC LINDEROTH thunder :devil: boy would he have run at them  ;D
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: jai john on July 31, 2006, 08:24:42 PM
i know I wouda get involved in this at some stage so i might as well jump in now as de topic change ...
Beenie underestimated the potential impact of latapy for T&T in Germany ...plain and simple !

I say that with confidence because ....-Beenie cannot now say to us ...I told you so !

If at the end of latapy´s brief cameo beenie could have said ..that´s why I didnt play him ....then I would concede that he was right ...except he cant can he ?
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2006, 08:41:50 PM
i know I wouda get involved in this at some stage so i might as well jump in now as de topic change ...
Beenie underestimated the potential impact of latapy for T&T in Germany ...plain and simple !

I say that with confidence because ....-Beenie cannot now say to us ...I told you so !

If at the end of latapy´s brief cameo beenie could have said ..that´s why I didnt play him ....then I would concede that he was right ...except he cant can he ?


Would latapy have played that way against england and sweden yuh think!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: jai john on July 31, 2006, 08:49:45 PM
i know I wouda get involved in this at some stage so i might as well jump in now as de topic change ...
Beenie underestimated the potential impact of latapy for T&T in Germany ...plain and simple !

I say that with confidence because ....-Beenie cannot now say to us ...I told you so !

If at the end of latapy´s brief cameo beenie could have said ..that´s why I didnt play him ....then I would concede that he was right ...except he cant can he ?


Would latapy have played that way against england and sweden yuh think!!

Certainly ! when i saw the players preferred to latapy i thought he must have broken down in training. I later realised that he was not part of Beenie´s plan from the start. You realise of course that he was not even selected for the warm up games prior to the WC...even against inferior opposition.
Beenie played latapy because of pressure not because he wanted to ......
he made great improvements in the team, npone can doubt that, but he missed one !
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on July 31, 2006, 08:53:53 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

    You should compare the little 24 minutes that he did play,match them up against the other 246+ minutes that he didn't play let your own conscience answer that one.


ok yuh know what  latapy would ah dazzle lampard beckham bergkamp etc. he would have given MELLBERG LUCIC LINDEROTH thunder :devil: boy would he have run at them  ;D

You saying that like yuh eh sure or yuh really never see Latas play, doh fool yuh self  dread Latas cud play wid de best ah dem yuh just call.Doh expose yuh self here as ah dunce of de game who else (well besides Stern off course  :whistling:) on we team closer in skiller to anyone ah dem players yuh call...I eh hearing yuh dread ...''what yuh say''     LATAS ? Yuh correct if daiz wha ah hear ...call anothe player who have more skill than de magican.I not jumping on Beenie back or criticizing him I dealing wid player for player here and you or nobody cyar tell me Latas at 59 ...oh sh!t ah mean 37 eh better than many of our midfielders, I talking bout pure skill and holding de ball and delivering dah killer pass, dat was so much needed by de big striker...wha ever he name is  :whistling: Yeah de football gurus say Beenie did de right thing and I eh 2nd guessing here I just giving my opinion and I really believe that Latas deserve more, he shudda start every single game if he tired or slowing down de game take him off,like he go be dis big liability and we go get 6 right ?I doh agree wid that.I say start yuh best and he's definately one. IMO de most talented player ever to come out ah TnT deserver more than ah cobo sweat in de WC.  
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: jai john on July 31, 2006, 09:11:28 PM
Can anone say how many times Latapy found Yorke or vice versa during latapy´s 23 mins ? 
Can anyone say how many passes latapy completed and how many chances he created for other players ?
Can anyone say how many times he lost the ball while in possession ? , how many times he went pass a player, how many attempts at goal  ...these are the things that will  convince the doubters.
I suspect that by the time we compile these facts he would have been on the field for 45 mins  :o
I dont have  a copy of the game but if someone else does and can supply these fact I will be grateful.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2006, 09:15:03 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

    You should compare the little 24 minutes that he did play,match them up against the other 246+ minutes that he didn't play let your own conscience answer that one.


ok yuh know what  latapy would ah dazzle lampard beckham bergkamp etc. he would have given MELLBERG LUCIC LINDEROTH thunder :devil: boy would he have run at them  ;D

You saying that like yuh eh sure or yuh really never see Latas play, doh fool yuh self  dread Latas cud play wid de best ah dem yuh just call.Doh expose yuh self here as ah dunce of de game who else (well besides Stern off course  :whistling:) on we team closer in skiller to anyone ah dem players yuh call...I eh hearing yuh dread ...''what yuh say''     LATAS ? Yuh correct if daiz wha ah hear ...call anothe player who have more skill than de magican.I not jumping on Beenie back or criticizing him I dealing wid player for player here and you or nobody cyar tell me Latas at 59 ...oh sh!t ah mean 37 eh better than many of our midfielders, I talking bout pure skill and holding de ball and delivering dah killer pass, dat was so much needed by de big striker...wha ever he name is  :whistling: Yeah de football gurus say Beenie did de right thing and I eh 2nd guessing here I just giving my opinion and I really believe that Latas deserve more, he shudda start every single game if he tired or slowing down de game take him off,like he go be dis big liability and we go get 6 right ?I doh agree wid that.I say start yuh best and he's definately one. IMO de most talented player ever to come out ah TnT deserver more than ah cobo sweat in de WC.  


steeps

Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2006, 09:25:06 PM
Can anone say how many times Latapy found Yorke or vice versa during latapy´s 23 mins ? 
Can anyone say how many passes latapy completed and how many chances he created for other players ?
Can anyone say how many times he lost the ball while in possession ? , how many times he went pass a player, how many attempts at goal  ...these are the things that will  convince the doubters.
I suspect that by the time we compile these facts he would have been on the field for 45 mins  :o
I dont have  a copy of the game but if someone else does and can supply these fact I will be grateful.

bigger steeeeeps

yuh feel that was going on against england eh i see yuh  forget the costa rica game. Again paraguay was leading they say the going home with a win thier coach put the stongest dey team  on d field ....he could have told  them half time allyuh leading and  tnt need to win ... england is leading sweden 1 nil   (tnt) have to go foward they need 2 ....sit back and catch them on the counter attack...
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on July 31, 2006, 09:32:26 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

why he deserve more

    You should compare the little 24 minutes that he did play,match them up against the other 246+ minutes that he didn't play let your own conscience answer that one.


ok yuh know what  latapy would ah dazzle lampard beckham bergkamp etc. he would have given MELLBERG LUCIC LINDEROTH thunder :devil: boy would he have run at them  ;D

You saying that like yuh eh sure or yuh really never see Latas play, doh fool yuh self  dread Latas cud play wid de best ah dem yuh just call.Doh expose yuh self here as ah dunce of de game who else (well besides Stern off course  :whistling:) on we team closer in skiller to anyone ah dem players yuh call...I eh hearing yuh dread ...''what yuh say''     LATAS ? Yuh correct if daiz wha ah hear ...call anothe player who have more skill than de magican.I not jumping on Beenie back or criticizing him I dealing wid player for player here and you or nobody cyar tell me Latas at 59 ...oh sh!t ah mean 37 eh better than many of our midfielders, I talking bout pure skill and holding de ball and delivering dah killer pass, dat was so much needed by de big striker...wha ever he name is  :whistling: Yeah de football gurus say Beenie did de right thing and I eh 2nd guessing here I just giving my opinion and I really believe that Latas deserve more, he shudda start every single game if he tired or slowing down de game take him off,like he go be dis big liability and we go get 6 right ?I doh agree wid that.I say start yuh best and he's definately one. IMO de most talented player ever to come out ah TnT deserver more than ah cobo sweat in de WC.  


steeps


 doh worry triniman ah understand i wuddn't know what tuh say either ..
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: davidephraim on July 31, 2006, 10:30:50 PM
respect for the video
but like that tape on a slinky or pogo stick
JESUS CHRIST

All yuh have tuh do is jump up and down too while yuh watching it and yuh will see it clear!!

ah love it!!

lololol :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: whayuhsay on August 01, 2006, 12:08:47 AM
Little boy, yuh mustbe a baby, yuh pee frorthin yet?  How de hell you could come orn here questioning Latas day in day out in the name of your savior Beenhakker so?  When would you wake up and realize dat yuh god mess up? 

Swallow dat break before replying...   ;D

Would latapy have played that way against england and sweden yuh think!!
Title: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: royal on August 01, 2006, 06:35:09 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.
Despite falling behind at Tannadice, the Bairns hit back when the 38-year-old equalised in the 23rd minute with a fine free-kick before setting up Liam Craig for the winner for head coach John Hughes' team in the second period.

Ross said: "We received a lot of plaudits last season for the way we pass the ball.

"The manager has preached that since day one in pre-season and we did it in friendlies, which is sometimes easier to do than in the pressure of a competitive match.

"But I thought we did it fantastically well against United. Sometimes, it is difficult for the players who do not see much of the ball, like myself and Kenny Milne out wide.

"However, when you have players who are capable of doing what the likes of Latapy and Craig can on the ball, you cannot complain."

Ross believes the form of Latapy proves the Trinidad and Tobago international was right to continue his playing career.

The former Hibernian and Rangers playmaker was considering retirement after the World Cup in Germany this summer.

But Ross, 30, insists the team can only benefit from the first-team coach's decision to play on for the Bairns.

He said: "Russell has been brilliant in pre-season.

"The training at the World Cup has done him the world of good and, if he plays like that, he is a massive player for us.

"We weren't sure what his plans were, because he keeps himself to himself.

"But we were delighted he returned and he also has an input on the coaching side of things now, which is fantastic for us."


teamtalk
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: Dutty on August 01, 2006, 06:44:19 AM
Call mih Nostraduttmos
Lemme fasten mih seat belts oui and keep mih hands inside de car....

cause dis is de part whey man does come out frothing about de injustice that was done to the greatest T&T player...and direct comparison of a scottish league game to a world cup game...

...and den men go say we is kiss arse colonialists for supportin a foreigner

.. and den it go turn into, well we woulda win de world cup if we had better service from de middle

...which when then morph into who is de better striker to collect de service

...the thread will then fizzle out and die ending with why jack didnt aks to keep de soca warriors bus
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on August 01, 2006, 06:48:23 AM
Well..let's see. Latas will be 42 years young in 2010. Hold on Lataaaaassssss...waz 4 more years? You hadda just apply a lil Romario-itis to yuh game...save yuhself lil' bit  for the T&T matches. We only need yuh for a 2nd half cameo..yuh could do it boss :devil: :devil:

What a player!
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 01, 2006, 06:58:34 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.


teamtalk

 :rotfl: you people boy
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: dinho on August 01, 2006, 07:04:39 AM
Call mih Nostraduttmos
Lemme fasten mih seat belts oui and keep mih hands inside de car....

cause dis is de part whey man does come out frothing about de injustice that was done to the greatest T&T player...and direct comparison of a scottish league game to a world cup game...

...and den men go say we is kiss arse colonialists for supportin a foreigner

.. and den it go turn into, well we woulda win de world cup if we had better service from de middle

...which when then morph into who is de better striker to collect de service

...the thread will then fizzle out and die ending with why jack didnt aks to keep de soca warriors bus

and dont forget disgruntled will come and say 4k all de teachers in he school cause he never make it to form 6...
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: lickslikefire on August 01, 2006, 07:18:11 AM
I doh understand how dis talk still going on.......

Lemme state for de record that ANY Trini who follows football knows Latas is a boss and is one of the greatest football players Trinidad has ever produced(IMO the greatest).

However, we will NEVER know IF Latas got more playing time, what impact he would ah have in the England Sweden game.......yuh could pretend to know how much yuh want, but the fact is we will never know.....we could ah get 6-0 from both of dem teams, or we could ah win......it's pure speculation...so lewwe done dis shit talk and not pretend we some big shot coach nah......

real armchair coaches on dis forum pretending like dey know for sure Latas would have had make a difference.....long flicking steups

Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: palos on August 01, 2006, 07:30:21 AM
real armchair coaches on dis forum pretending like dey know for sure Latas would have had make a difference.....long flicking steups

In my opinion, Latas makes a difference offensively 90% of the time when playing for T&T.  The question is at what cost defensively.
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: berris on August 01, 2006, 07:36:44 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.


teamtalk

 :rotfl: you people boy


triniman you sound like you never see Latas play or yuh just ignorant tuh de game,either one, yuh doh come across as intelligent especially yuh 'you people boy' comment , imo the tone of yuh statement sound like yuh talking down to we people and you come across to me as ah arrogant asshole that just doh know better ....I cud be wrong but ah have ah strong feeling ah right .
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 01, 2006, 07:49:33 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.


teamtalk

 :rotfl: you people boy

triniman leh meh ask yuh dis yuh know who is Latas yuh ever see him play ?

NAH  seen latas play  ::)
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: berris on August 01, 2006, 07:56:22 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.


teamtalk

 :rotfl: you people boy

triniman leh meh ask yuh dis yuh know who is Latas yuh ever see him play ?

NAH  seen latas play  ::)

When,where....yuh effen lie,you see Latas play an talkig all dah tata you must be see ah Guyanese version ah Latas nut we Latas, odda wise yuh wuddn't ah be talking all dah FILTH ....
Title: Re: Ross Pleased With Latapy Impact
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 01, 2006, 08:04:06 AM
Falkirk captain Jack Ross was happy to sit back and watch Russell Latapy take centre stage as Falkirk beat Dundee United 2-1 on Saturday.


teamtalk

 :rotfl: you people boy

triniman leh meh ask yuh dis yuh know who is Latas yuh ever see him play ?

NAH  seen latas play  ::)

When,where....yuh effen lie,you see Latas play an talkig all dah tata you must be see ah Guyanese version ah Latas nut we Latas, odda wise yuh wuddn't ah be talking all dah FILTH ....

i Done costa rica and bahrain deal with latas why cannot england and sweden do it . But you know what sorry latapy is great  if he was on the field he would have had lampard all ova the place and joe cole gerrad would not have handled him. he sould have come on when we were down to ten men and run all ova swden sorry he is our saviour. i am sorry sorry you all are right :salute: :whistling:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: lickslikefire on August 01, 2006, 08:13:50 AM
real armchair coaches on dis forum pretending like dey know for sure Latas would have had make a difference.....long flicking steups

In my opinion, Latas makes a difference offensively 90% of the time when playing for T&T.  The question is at what cost defensively.

no disrepeck palos...but jes curious...where you get dat stat 90% from...again back tio meh point....we jes speculating....

also I agree in general that latas makes a difference to T&T's offense....but we have never played against the calibre of England and Sweden prior to the world cup....how you know he would ah make any offensive difference knowing we literally defended the majority of both those games....would you value a more defensive midfielder or a more creative midifelder in this instance  :beermug:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: palos on August 01, 2006, 08:24:04 AM
real armchair coaches on dis forum pretending like dey know for sure Latas would have had make a difference.....long flicking steups

In my opinion, Latas makes a difference offensively 90% of the time when playing for T&T.  The question is at what cost defensively.

no disrepeck palos...but jes curious...where you get dat stat 90% from...again back tio meh point....we jes speculating....

also I agree in general that latas makes a difference to T&T's offense....but we have never played against the calibre of England and Sweden prior to the world cup....how you know he would ah make any offensive difference knowing we literally defended the majority of both those games....would you value a more defensive midfielder or a more creative midifelder in this instance  :beermug:

Speculation is totally correck because we will never know.

Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: kicker on August 01, 2006, 08:27:50 AM
Is this argument gonna re-emerge everytime Latapy has a good game in the SPL ? I think we should get over it.

I honestly think Latapy was supposed to be our super-sub. I think that is what Beenie orignially had in mind. This is what I speculate, trying to use logic and concrete results over emotion in hindsight:

Against Sweden we went down to ten men, we were being dominated and were holding on for dear life, so a last minute change in tactics had to be employed....and it worked. We held on for the draw against the odds, without Latas, and I believe that must have caused Beenie to reconsider using similar tactics going into the second game against England

Against England, we couldn't really see our way, and got sucked into a defensive shell. With 5 minutes left to go, and the score still 0-0, I think that Beenie was getting flashbacks of the Sweden game, and decided to try and weather the storm in similar fashion. He musta thought why go and upset the pattern when it worked before, and it seemed to be working again....by the time Crouchy took a hair sample from Sancho, it was too late.

Against, Paraguay remember we had a slim chance of qualification, and this is where I think , Latas was most likely going to get the chance to play the quintessential, super sub role. Beenie probably thought that if we could hold Sweden for 90, England for 85, without Latas.....by using similar proven tactics, we should be able to contain Paraguay for at least 60-65, at which point Latas would come in and add some final punch to the attack and hopefully push into the second round.............

Sadly, in the last game we conceded one in the early minutes of the game before he came in....and we conceded one while he was in. We didn't score when he was off the field and we didn't score when he was one the field.....The truth is, the pattern of the game had switched in our favour before Latapy come on. We were chasing the game. That is the natural pattern of a team that is chasing a game. Latapy did add some excitement with his style of football, but in terms of output, there was no real difference.  The shots we managed when he was on the field were still off target, and the majority of our plays were still being broken down before we could get a clear shot off, and there were no clear cut chances created by incisive passing. In fact the closest we came to scoring in that game was a header off a free kick in the first half. I think that was the only testing save that the Paraguay keeper had to make in the entire game. We even conceded a goal while Latapy was on the field. What Latapy did bring was a style that excited the crowd and "looked" more dangerous because of his neat football and natural flair......

To add everything up, try to put your self in Beenie's shoes - not in hindsight, but consider T&T's game situations in the heat of the moment and be honest about Latapy's real concrete contribution to the last game.......

In the end, considering EVERYTHING the only thing that Beenie probably deprived us of was a little extra excitement....and given the battles that we were up against, I think it was fully understandable. There will never be any denying that Latapy is great, and I too would have liked to see him get more of a run but in all honesty, one man was not enough to change our WC successes this Summer.....so in my opinion, we could give the armchair coaching and speculation a rest. (for the entire SPL season  ;D)
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 01, 2006, 08:48:28 AM
Is this argument gonna re-emerge everytime Latapy has a good game in the SPL ? I think we should get over it.

I honestly think Latapy was supposed to be our super-sub. I think that is what Beenie orignially had in mind. This is what I speculate, trying to use logic and concrete results over emotion in hindsight:

Against Sweden we went down to ten men, we were being dominated and were holding on for dear life, so a last minute change in tactics had to be employed....and it worked. We held on for the draw against the odds, without Latas, and I believe that must have caused Beenie to reconsider using similar tactics going into the second game against England

Against England, we couldn't really see our way, and got sucked into a defensive shell. With 5 minutes left to go, and the score still 0-0, I think that Beenie was getting flashbacks of the Sweden game, and decided to try and weather the storm in similar fashion. He musta thought why go and upset the pattern when it worked before, and it seemed to be working again....by the time Crouchy took a hair sample from Sancho, it was too late.

Against, Paraguay remember we had a slim chance of qualification, and this is where I think , Latas was most likely going to get the chance to play the quintessential, super sub role. Beenie probably thought that if we could hold Sweden for 90, England for 85, without Latas.....by using similar proven tactics, we should be able to contain Paraguay for at least 60-65, at which point Latas would come in and add some final punch to the attack and hopefully push into the second round.............

Sadly, in the last game we conceded one in the early minutes of the game before he came in....and we conceded one while he was in. We didn't score when he was off the field and we didn't score when he was one the field.....The truth is, the pattern of the game had switched in our favour before Latapy come on. We were chasing the game. That is the natural pattern of a team that is chasing a game. Latapy did add some excitement with his style of football, but in terms of output, there was no real difference.  The shots we managed when he was on the field were still off target, and the majority of our plays were still being broken down before we could get a clear shot off, and there were no clear cut chances created by incisive passing. In fact the closest we came to scoring in that game was a header off a free kick in the first half. I think that was the only testing save that the Paraguay keeper had to make in the entire game. We even conceded a goal while Latapy was on the field. What Latapy did bring was a style that excited the crowd and "looked" more dangerous because of his neat football and natural flair......

To add everything up, try to put your self in Beenie's shoes - not in hindsight, but consider T&T's game situations in the heat of the moment and be honest about Latapy's real concrete contribution to the last game.......

In the end, considering EVERYTHING the only thing that Beenie probably deprived us of was a little extra excitement....and given the battles that we were up against, I think it was fully understandable. Latapy is great, and I too would have liked to see him get more of a run but in all honesty, one man was not enough to change our WC successes this Summer.....so in my opinion, we could give the armchair coaching and speculation a rest. (for the entire SPL season  ;D)

CLAP CLAP CLAP  :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :notworthy: :salute: :wavetowel: :afro:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on August 01, 2006, 09:47:36 AM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)



      Come on, Filho.  When I was arguing with men in germany that Latas should have had more playing time, do you think I was basing my argument on what he did this past weekend in the SPL?  We all know that Latas is no longer what he used to be but his prescence on the field up to June 20th of this year was still more valuable to T&T than his prescence on the bench, and his little 24 minutes against Paraguay did prove that.  I threw it out there that he should have had more playing time, Brother, but I wasn't "jumping on ! Scottish League performance to bolster that argument"  We ain't that simple, are we?  Sometimes when a man throws out a post, he's throwing it out for more reasons than one, Padna.

Hard luck boss...I was not trying to say you were using the SPL performance to make your point. I know you had been calling for Latas way back. I just meant that you should not use it to add to that argument. I don't think a great SPL performance should be the catalyst for bringing up another 'I told you Latas should have played'. The WC and the SPL are very different in terms of the quality of football. To me it sounded like you were using the SPL performnace to say...look, more evidence that Latas should have played. I just saying, I don't think it says anything other than a great player had a great game. Hard luck if I misunderstood where you were coming from...but I hope is clear where I was coming from.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Marcos on August 01, 2006, 10:39:07 AM
Latas is a boss
check how he still rippin up spl
beenie do shit
we woulda win d wc if latas had start every game
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: palos on August 01, 2006, 10:43:54 AM
no disrepeck palos...but jes curious...where you get dat stat 90% from...

Honestly...off de top of meh head because I eh do no study or have scientific facts.  But IN GENERAL, T&T has much more of an offensive flow when Latas is on de field.  Matter of fact, when he is not on the field, IN GENERAL, we lack invention and ideas.

However, in my opinion, it does come at a price.  Players, encouraged by the creativity that Latas provides MAY lose their defensive discipline in their eagerness to participate in the attack.

There have been occasions where I have seen Latas totally ineffective (like any other footballer) like Novemeber 19, 1989 and the Bahrain game in T&T.  In spite of that, he still remains my favourite player.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: supporter on August 01, 2006, 03:46:15 PM
On Fox Sports World Report Bobby McMahon took the time to point out that 37 yr old Russell Latapy absolutely dominated the game and was in complete control for Falkirk when they were going over the SPL.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: kicker on August 01, 2006, 04:05:50 PM
On Fox Sports World Report Bobby McMahon took the time to point out that 37 yr old Russell Latapy absolutely dominated the game and was in complete control for Falkirk when they were going over the SPL.

On a good day Latapy is just too good for the SPL......That league doesn't really have his level of quality, at least not in abundance.

It was the same with Larrson....he used to score at will at Celtic like it was a joke.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: FF on August 01, 2006, 04:07:03 PM
On Fox Sports World Report Bobby McMahon took the time to point out that 37 yr old Russell Latapy absolutely dominated the game and was in complete control for Falkirk when they were going over the SPL.

They show highlights??!!!

Oh Gawd ah miss it last night!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Grande on August 01, 2006, 04:09:28 PM
On Fox Sports World Report Bobby McMahon took the time to point out that 37 yr old Russell Latapy absolutely dominated the game and was in complete control for Falkirk when they were going over the SPL.

They show highlights??!!!

Oh Gawd ah miss it last night!!

nah they didnt' show highlights

I was hearing McMahon talking about Latas and HOPING fuh highlights but, none. Dundee Utd vs Falkirk is a decent enough SPL clash, but FSWC only tends to show highlights from the upper tier of de SPL, if ANY
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Bally on August 01, 2006, 05:23:41 PM
This is my take on Latapy on the field he motivates the players because they all idolize him Leo made a mistake by not playing Latas more yes I said it no one is perfect we can’t play football with 10 defenders and 1 striker and expect to win also the kind of experience Latapy have he would off adjust to the play this guy is world class and to play Thoabld over latapy was a dishonor one  in they right mind could explain that to me we need his creativity remember he was the driving forces for us in the qualifiers.     
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: SUPA on August 01, 2006, 07:42:34 PM
This is my take on Latapy on the field he motivates the players because they all idolize him Leo made a mistake by not playing Latas more yes I said it no one is perfect we can’t play football with 10 defenders and 1 striker and expect to win also the kind of experience Latapy have he would off adjust to the play this guy is world class and to play Thoabld over latapy was a dishonor one  in they right mind could explain that to me we need his creativity remember he was the driving forces for us in the qualifiers.     

Bally, true dat, ah said de same thing before. Every time someone express their disappointment, in de amount of playing time de GENERAL get, ah does just go back into meh lil shell, and get sad like if someone in meh family died. Now people, dis eh no joke, cuz since ah was youth going tuh school, ah use tuh idolize dat youth, he is real real special talent.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 01, 2006, 07:54:16 PM
This is my take on Latapy on the field he motivates the players because they all idolize him Leo made a mistake by not playing Latas more yes I said it no one is perfect we can’t play football with 10 defenders and 1 striker and expect to win also the kind of experience Latapy have he would off adjust to the play this guy is world class and to play Thoabld over latapy was a dishonor one  in they right mind could explain that to me we need his creativity remember he was the driving forces for us in the qualifiers.     

Bally, true dat, ah said de same thing before. Every time someone express their disappointment, in de amount of playing time de GENERAL get, ah does just go back into meh lil shell, and get sad like if someone in meh family died. Now people, dis eh no joke, cuz since ah was youth going tuh school, ah use tuh idolize dat youth, he is real real special talent.

Ah know some men eh guh like how some ah WE cyar geh over dat or like SUPA say does go in a shell when somebody else talk about it, but de trute ah de matter is many ah WE will feel dis for sometime, I mehself been sayin for sometime now, "we have to use de WC xperience and move on"  but it real hard for some of us given what we know of de general, for dose of you who have moved on easily or not so easily, leh we grieve in peace nah, bless
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 01, 2006, 07:54:36 PM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)



      Come on, Filho.  When I was arguing with men in germany that Latas should have had more playing time, do you think I was basing my argument on what he did this past weekend in the SPL?  We all know that Latas is no longer what he used to be but his prescence on the field up to June 20th of this year was still more valuable to T&T than his prescence on the bench, and his little 24 minutes against Paraguay did prove that.  I threw it out there that he should have had more playing time, Brother, but I wasn't "jumping on ! Scottish League performance to bolster that argument"  We ain't that simple, are we?  Sometimes when a man throws out a post, he's throwing it out for more reasons than one, Padna.

Hard luck boss...I was not trying to say you were using the SPL performance to make your point. I know you had been calling for Latas way back. I just meant that you should not use it to add to that argument. I don't think a great SPL performance should be the catalyst for bringing up another 'I told you Latas should have played'. The WC and the SPL are very different in terms of the quality of football. To me it sounded like you were using the SPL performnace to say...look, more evidence that Latas should have played. I just saying, I don't think it says anything other than a great player had a great game. Hard luck if I misunderstood where you were coming from...but I hope is clear where I was coming from.
             I know exactly where yuh comin' from, Boss, my initial post was meant as a "steups wit a rollin' of the eye kinda" thing, remembering how disappointed I was that he didn't get more playing time.  I am no statistician when it comes to football, at least not in the purest sense like some men I see here.  The stat that matters most to me when it comes down to it, is shots on goal.  Make the 'keeper earn his pay!!  The value that Latapy brought to our team CANNOT be measured with any of these statistics that men looking to put out here.  This is not friggin' baseball.  Football is supposed to be a free-flowing game of offensive improvisation combined with tactical and defensive discipline in front of solid goalkeeping.  If men lose their defensive discipline because Latas come on to create more chances for the team's goalscorers (Stern "Lazy" John, Cornell Glen and, when given the opportunity, Dwight, etc!) THAT IS NOT HIS FAULT!! Also, Latapy is no more a defensive liability than any of the other midfielders on our team, and I didn't exactly see Paraguay pin back their ears and start licking their offensive chops when he did come on.  If anything, he had their defenders on their heels and he DID elevate the team's energy, (I even saw Stern trying to put in and win tackles in the Paraguay defence.  Picture DAT!!!) and I am not saying that we would have all of a sudden scored 1, 2, 3 or ANY goals against England or Paraguay, but you still have to find a way to get your BEST AND MOST CREATIVE player on the field SOMEHOW!  We had more than proven ourselves in the Sweden game EVEN if Sweden were unlucky not to score.  
        
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: whayuhsay on August 02, 2006, 12:20:36 AM
Chow, yuh tork like a boss dey...

The problem is after Sweden, all man could do was praise Beenhakker for bringing on another striker.  In the end, Shaka had the biggest game of his life and if not for him, Sweden could have easily beaten us 3-0.   Fact is, we were lucky, Sweden throw away big time and Shaka was a brick wall.  People forget, Shaka was not even supposed to start that game, I guess Beenhakker got lucky again...

Then we have Colin Samuel, another attacking player, Beenie bench de man against Sweden, I doh undahstand why as anyone with a tape of that game, please watch it and tell me why Beenie bench Colin and never play him after that game?

The fuss Bahrain game, all man agree with Beenie's benching of Latas, yet Latapy was having a better game than some of the other midfielders, again, he should not have been benched.  A man post about Latapy being ineffective 11/19/89 even though the entire team was ineffective after a 4 hour bus ride.  I will remind you that Latapy was fouled in the box on 11/19/89, it should have been a penalty.

Look, the local haters will find all reasons to defend Beenhakker and mash up Latapy and any other local.  When one of them give me a good reason why Theobald pulling stones them 3 games get to play in front of Latas in every game, then I would shut up!

In the end, we would never have won 3 of our last 4 games and qualified if Latapy didn't come out of retirement after being begged by Yorke for those last four games in the Hex.

Latapy's dream was to coach TnT or at least play an assistant role, dais my belief, look who is the new head coach, Beenie's assistant!  Go figure!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 02, 2006, 04:18:58 AM
Chow, yuh tork like a boss dey...

The problem is after Sweden, all man could do was praise Beenhakker for bringing on another striker.  In the end, Shaka had the biggest game of his life and if not for him, Sweden could have easily beaten us 3-0.   Fact is, we were lucky, Sweden throw away big time and Shaka was a brick wall.  People forget, Shaka was not even supposed to start that game, I guess Beenhakker got lucky again...

Then we have Colin Samuel, another attacking player, Beenie bench de man against Sweden, I doh undahstand why as anyone with a tape of that game, please watch it and tell me why Beenie bench Colin and never play him after that game?

The fuss Bahrain game, all man agree with Beenie's benching of Latas, yet Latapy was having a better game than some of the other midfielders, again, he should not have been benched.  A man post about Latapy being ineffective 11/19/89 even though the entire team was ineffective after a 4 hour bus ride.  I will remind you that Latapy was fouled in the box on 11/19/89, it should have been a penalty.

Look, the local haters will find all reasons to defend Beenhakker and mash up Latapy and any other local.  When one of them give me a good reason why Theobald pulling stones them 3 games get to play in front of Latas in every game, then I would shut up!

In the end, we would never have won 3 of our last 4 games and qualified if Latapy didn't come out of retirement after being begged by Yorke for those last four games in the Hex.

Latapy's dream was to coach TnT or at least play an assistant role, dais my belief, look who is the new head coach, Beenie's assistant!  Go figure!

      Man, I have so much more to say and I ain't sayin' all I know or feel because I have some investigating to do first, but to touch on that fateful day in '89, I am amazed that men would try to be reproachful towards Latas for that game because I remember that, in my unbiased post game analysis of the game LATAPY was STILL the player that, to the best of my rememberance, stood out as at least the midfielder that did his best and worked the hardest to get us that all important goal, and subsequently, equaliser..........but I will be more than happy to blow the dust off that tape and watch it again if anybody challenges me to do so.  You touched on the whole coaching thing, and I suspect that there was some issue there between he and Leo, but I would be irresponsible to put that out there without finding out from the right sources.
   Men are out here begging the rhetorical question about "....Lampard, Ashley Cole......etc."  If Cornell Glen can hold his own against Ashley Cole (whose attitude I cannot stand, but I am fair enough to concede is one of the better left backs in the league) then why are we supposed to be afraid of the prospect of having Latas take on Lampard and Co.?  Would he rally have done any worse than the likes of "Me Mum" and Whitley?  Really??? Would he have??
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 02, 2006, 04:19:37 AM
Chow, yuh tork like a boss dey...

The problem is after Sweden, all man could do was praise Beenhakker for bringing on another striker.  In the end, Shaka had the biggest game of his life and if not for him, Sweden could have easily beaten us 3-0.   Fact is, we were lucky, Sweden throw away big time and Shaka was a brick wall.  People forget, Shaka was not even supposed to start that game, I guess Beenhakker got lucky again...

Then we have Colin Samuel, another attacking player, Beenie bench de man against Sweden, I doh undahstand why as anyone with a tape of that game, please watch it and tell me why Beenie bench Colin and never play him after that game?

The fuss Bahrain game, all man agree with Beenie's benching of Latas, yet Latapy was having a better game than some of the other midfielders, again, he should not have been benched.  A man post about Latapy being ineffective 11/19/89 even though the entire team was ineffective after a 4 hour bus ride.  I will remind you that Latapy was fouled in the box on 11/19/89, it should have been a penalty.

Look, the local haters will find all reasons to defend Beenhakker and mash up Latapy and any other local.  When one of them give me a good reason why Theobald pulling stones them 3 games get to play in front of Latas in every game, then I would shut up!

In the end, we would never have won 3 of our last 4 games and qualified if Latapy didn't come out of retirement after being begged by Yorke for those last four games in the Hex.

Latapy's dream was to coach TnT or at least play an assistant role, dais my belief, look who is the new head coach, Beenie's assistant!  Go figure!

      Man, I have so much more to say and I ain't sayin' all I know or feel because I have some investigating to do first, but to touch on that fateful day in '89, I am amazed that men would try to be reproachful towards Latas for that game because I remember that, in my unbiased post game analysis of the game LATAPY was STILL the player that, to the best of my rememberance, stood out as at least the midfielder that did his best and worked the hardest to get us that all important goal, and subsequently, equaliser..........but I will be more than happy to blow the dust off that tape and watch it again if anybody challenges me to do so.  You touched on the whole coaching thing, and I suspect that there was some issue there between he and Leo, but I would be irresponsible to put that out there without finding out from the right sources.
   Men are out here begging the rhetorical question about "....Lampard, Ashley Cole......etc."  If Cornell Glen can hold his own against Ashley Cole (whose attitude I cannot stand, but I am fair enough to concede is one of the better left backs in the league) then why are we supposed to be afraid of the prospect of having Latas take on Lampard and Co.?  Would he rally have done any worse than the likes of "Me Mum" and Whitley?  Really??? Would he have??
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on August 02, 2006, 04:28:41 AM
..............and to think.......men wanted to seriously argue wit me, and actually defend Leo's decision...........not to give Russell #*@^%$ing Latapy, Arguably (if yuh REALLY FEEL like arguing) Trinidad's greatest player EVER, no more than 24 minutes of playing time in our country's finest moment in football.  HAH!!!!!

I really wish Latas had played more in the WC..but I eh jumping on 1 Scottish league performance to bolster that argument. That is one game against an average team in a somewhat decent league. There are a gazillion reasons you could argue for Latas...this eh one of them (in my opinion)



      Come on, Filho.  When I was arguing with men in germany that Latas should have had more playing time, do you think I was basing my argument on what he did this past weekend in the SPL?  We all know that Latas is no longer what he used to be but his prescence on the field up to June 20th of this year was still more valuable to T&T than his prescence on the bench, and his little 24 minutes against Paraguay did prove that.  I threw it out there that he should have had more playing time, Brother, but I wasn't "jumping on ! Scottish League performance to bolster that argument"  We ain't that simple, are we?  Sometimes when a man throws out a post, he's throwing it out for more reasons than one, Padna.

Hard luck boss...I was not trying to say you were using the SPL performance to make your point. I know you had been calling for Latas way back. I just meant that you should not use it to add to that argument. I don't think a great SPL performance should be the catalyst for bringing up another 'I told you Latas should have played'. The WC and the SPL are very different in terms of the quality of football. To me it sounded like you were using the SPL performnace to say...look, more evidence that Latas should have played. I just saying, I don't think it says anything other than a great player had a great game. Hard luck if I misunderstood where you were coming from...but I hope is clear where I was coming from.
             I know exactly where yuh comin' from, Boss, my initial post was meant as a "steups wit a rollin' of the eye kinda" thing, remembering how disappointed I was that he didn't get more playing time.  I am no statistician when it comes to football, at least not in the purest sense like some men I see here.  The stat that matters most to me when it comes down to it, is shots on goal.  Make the 'keeper earn his pay!!  The value that Latapy brought to our team CANNOT be measured with any of these statistics that men looking to put out here.  This is not friggin' baseball.  Football is supposed to be a free-flowing game of offensive improvisation combined with tactical and defensive discipline in front of solid goalkeeping.  If men lose their defensive discipline because Latas come on to create more chances for the team's goalscorers (Stern "Lazy" John, Cornell Glen and, when given the opportunity, Dwight, etc!) THAT IS NOT HIS FAULT!! Also, Latapy is no more a defensive liability than any of the other midfielders on our team, and I didn't exactly see Paraguay pin back their ears and start licking their offensive chops when he did come on.  If anything, he had their defenders on their heels and he DID elevate the team's energy, (I even saw Stern trying to put in and win tackles in the Paraguay defence.  Picture DAT!!!) and I am not saying that we would have all of a sudden scored 1, 2, 3 or ANY goals against England or Paraguay, but you still have to find a way to get your BEST AND MOST CREATIVE player on the field SOMEHOW!  We had more than proven ourselves in the Sweden game EVEN if Sweden were unlucky not to score.  
        

cool ting. would have defnitely liked to see the lil' magician more...I honestly don't care what his effect would have been...just would have liked for him to have gotten more of a chance. But I empathize with Beenie and the choices he had to make. respek
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Midknight on August 02, 2006, 08:12:57 AM
Here is a better clip off the goal...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ntc1jh

I staying out of this argument because you can't talk sense over emotion and expect to persuade anybody of anything.

There is no denying his quality as a player...Latas time as a coach will come, i'm sure, and then we will see how much he worth in that department.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Filho on August 02, 2006, 08:17:45 AM
nice clip..great quality

de fellas show him real love too...
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Weh-it-is on August 02, 2006, 10:15:41 AM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

 Coventry lost 2-1  Stern play 61mins ..did not score ......come on haters do all yuh ting ?

Latas Big Big Player always


Stern ent score because he's ah bum!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 02, 2006, 10:38:22 AM
nice clip..great quality

de fellas show him real love too...

Yuh culd not even see him durin de post goal huddle celebratin de goal, short man russell boy, de emotion continues....
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on August 02, 2006, 10:41:29 AM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

 Coventry lost 2-1  Stern play 61mins ..did not score ......come on haters do all yuh ting ?

Latas Big Big Player always


Stern ent score because he's ah bum!

And you is ah jackass becuz yuh born mentally challanged
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Weh-it-is on August 02, 2006, 01:00:58 PM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

 Coventry lost 2-1  Stern play 61mins ..did not score ......come on haters do all yuh ting ?

Latas Big Big Player always


Stern ent score because he's ah bum!

And you is ah jackass becuz yuh born mentally challanged
:rotfl: Berris you never seem to disappoint me! Yuh does reale take bait/shit like ah shit eating maneekue... so tell me who's really mentally challenged! :rotfl:
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 02, 2006, 01:09:19 PM
mango chow wey yuh sey etc should be d next coach
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 02, 2006, 01:12:33 PM
Chow, yuh tork like a boss dey...

The problem is after Sweden, all man could do was praise Beenhakker for bringing on another striker.  In the end, Shaka had the biggest game of his life and if not for him, Sweden could have easily beaten us 3-0.   Fact is, we were lucky, Sweden throw away big time and Shaka was a brick wall.  People forget, Shaka was not even supposed to start that game, I guess Beenhakker got lucky again...

Then we have Colin Samuel, another attacking player, Beenie bench de man against Sweden, I doh undahstand why as anyone with a tape of that game, please watch it and tell me why Beenie bench Colin and never play him after that game?

The fuss Bahrain game, all man agree with Beenie's benching of Latas, yet Latapy was having a better game than some of the other midfielders, again, he should not have been benched.  A man post about Latapy being ineffective 11/19/89 even though the entire team was ineffective after a 4 hour bus ride.  I will remind you that Latapy was fouled in the box on 11/19/89, it should have been a penalty.

Look, the local haters will find all reasons to defend Beenhakker and mash up Latapy and any other local.  When one of them give me a good reason why Theobald pulling stones them 3 games get to play in front of Latas in every game, then I would shut up!

In the end, we would never have won 3 of our last 4 games and qualified if Latapy didn't come out of retirement after being begged by Yorke for those last four games in the Hex.

Latapy's dream was to coach TnT or at least play an assistant role, dais my belief, look who is the new head coach, Beenie's assistant!  Go figure!

 Even latapy say he cannot go fuh 90 min even latapy back leo decision to bench him in the away game lord boy  :rotfl: i bet you does dream of latapy floatingthrough yuh bed room window ..
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: berris on August 02, 2006, 02:06:54 PM
How come nobody eh put up a list of games for today and the scores???

 Coventry lost 2-1  Stern play 61mins ..did not score ......come on haters do all yuh ting ?

Latas Big Big Player always


Stern ent score because he's ah bum!

And you is ah jackass becuz yuh born mentally challanged
:rotfl: Berris you never seem to disappoint me! Yuh does reale take bait/shit like ah shit eating maneekue... so tell me who's really mentally challenged! :rotfl:


weshitis  you tell me who is de one wey really geh bait here like ah  bamsee licking imps  :rotfl: :rotfl:   and de answer to yuh question is obvious .
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Socafan on August 02, 2006, 06:38:09 PM
Ah wonder why Jack didn't ask to keep de WorldCup Bus boy?

PS - Stern John is ah POTHOUND!!
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 02, 2006, 06:51:46 PM
Chow, yuh tork like a boss dey...

The problem is after Sweden, all man could do was praise Beenhakker for bringing on another striker.  In the end, Shaka had the biggest game of his life and if not for him, Sweden could have easily beaten us 3-0.   Fact is, we were lucky, Sweden throw away big time and Shaka was a brick wall.  People forget, Shaka was not even supposed to start that game, I guess Beenhakker got lucky again...

Then we have Colin Samuel, another attacking player, Beenie bench de man against Sweden, I doh undahstand why as anyone with a tape of that game, please watch it and tell me why Beenie bench Colin and never play him after that game?

The fuss Bahrain game, all man agree with Beenie's benching of Latas, yet Latapy was having a better game than some of the other midfielders, again, he should not have been benched.  A man post about Latapy being ineffective 11/19/89 even though the entire team was ineffective after a 4 hour bus ride.  I will remind you that Latapy was fouled in the box on 11/19/89, it should have been a penalty.

Look, the local haters will find all reasons to defend Beenhakker and mash up Latapy and any other local.  When one of them give me a good reason why Theobald pulling stones them 3 games get to play in front of Latas in every game, then I would shut up!

In the end, we would never have won 3 of our last 4 games and qualified if Latapy didn't come out of retirement after being begged by Yorke for those last four games in the Hex.

Latapy's dream was to coach TnT or at least play an assistant role, dais my belief, look who is the new head coach, Beenie's assistant!  Go figure!

 Even latapy say he cannot go fuh 90 min even latapy back leo decision to bench him in the away game lord boy  :rotfl: i bet you does dream of latapy floatingthrough yuh bed room window ..

         I guess you are yet another one who cannot wait to let people know what little command you have of the english language or of how little you understand politics and diplomacy......or what little you even know of Russel Latapy.  When yuh finish dryin' behind yuh ears, pull out yuh Nelson Readers and Student's Companion and try to understand this: Latas has always been a very humble person ever since the entire football world in T&T (as we know it) knew of him as a little boy.  The WHOLE  of Trinidad knew of him since he played u-14 for Tranquility Secondary and ever since then, he was never known to talk big or say anything out of line.  He isn't necessarily going to start now, and he wouldn't say anything controversial to create any discord in the T&T camp.  I would EXPECT him to fully support Leo's decision.  Nor do his comments change the fact that LEO COULD HAVE PLAYED HIM MORE.  I will let you figure out the 90 minutes of playing time on your own...............as far as your other comments........I would be the first to tell anybody that I do "Idol worship" Latas and a host of other men as the best things that have passed through our country and I have no shame in putting that out there.  All that talk about bedroom windo and all dat is something is something you need to go get help for, Padnah.  go tell dat to your brothers and sisters or something.
Title: Re: Latapy score a free kick and set up 1..........2-1 falkirk vs dundee utd....
Post by: Grande on August 02, 2006, 10:20:27 PM
This is a much more clearer, professional clip of Latas' goal:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ntc1jh

golaso  :beermug:
Title: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Midknight on August 18, 2006, 03:54:52 PM
Please read the whole post before responding

The older heads on this forum who believe that Russell Latapy is the best thing that God make since Jesus Christ have a tendency to shake their heads condescendingly at us younger ones and say, I wish you could have seen him in his prime.

Latas' dribling skills, vision and touch are not to be disputed. I think any one who has seen him play even just the Guatemala match will realise that he's the best technicaly gifted player TNT has produced in the last 15 years, and probably best ever (I can't compare what I haven't seen)

However, on bigsoccer someone is running a thread on the best 10 CONCACAF players ever and saw it fit to put Dwight over there and not Russell. Why? The answer is obvious. Dwight not only had success, but high profile success at Manchester, and he has the added props of being able to say i captained my team to its first ever world cup.

Latas has been a lot more low profile. He won a couple titles in the Portuguese League (which was then a lot less valued before Porto's win in the Champion's League) before moving into Scotland, For all intents and purposes after he left Rangers, his international status as a big name player was over.

He made basically a 'cameo appearance (all be it a vital one) in our final WC qualifying campaign (5 starts in 12 matches), and we all know the story about the world cup so i won't bring it up here.
Everyone would agree that Latapy on the field brought much more to the team than mere stats can indicate.

But I would like to know what exactly was his role in Portugal. With Boavista and Porto, how many starts did Latas get, how many goals did he score, how many minutes did he play, who were his team mates and why was he given on a free transfer to Hibs? Does anyone have that information. I fished around for it and couldn't find it..

A non trini can say Yorke was a great player without having ever seen him play because of his high exposure and his stats in the EPL, but they can't say the same about Latas unfortunately (and yes i know midfielders get less press than strikers. Why is Latas' wikipedia entry so short compared to Dwight's?

For those of us who don't have 1001 memories of the guy, imagine our children, what is there to prove that this man was as great as we all think he is? Let me hear alyuh.


I know I will get real pound for this, because  plenty men won't understand me and feel i on a fight down scene...  ::)
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 18, 2006, 04:10:21 PM
Nice post.  Will be interestin to see de responses.

Just for me....I was fortunate to see Latas in de U 16 tournament in T&T....same tournament wit Marcelle etc.  Pele at the time was present and he predicted at the time that Marcelle would be the man who would make the big impression at senior level for T&T, and Marcelle was decidely exciting.  Yet Latas who was so small on the field, his kit seemingly 2 times bigger than him, and his afro jes adding to the overall look, was the one who truly caught my eye.

Even at that age, his technique was remarkable....the vision in his passing remarkable.....his shielding of the ball, his passing...all of these attributes which became the hallmark of his career were on full display even then.

For me...Latas is the best footballer I ever see in a T&T uniform.  Make that in any Caribbean football uniform.  Make that in any CONCACAF region uniform.  Bar NONE.  Dwight Yorke is an excellent player....but footballer for footballer....FOR ME....He not in latas' league.

Now Yorkie has 2 great legacies.  His deeds in England especially with Man United in the 98/99 season.  And leading the Soca Warriors to the World Cup in Germany in 2006.

Latas leagcies are much more INTANGIBLE...but anyone who has seen him, especially when he's on song, comes away with a sense of having been in the presence of GENIUS.  This is the stuff of which LEGENDS are made. 

Unlike Yorke...there aren't that many video compilations that can show latas at his best.  Perhaps when he was at his peak....he was in Portugal which was pretty much during the pre internet days.  I used to scour newsgroups and portugese newspapers on line trying to get any information whatsoever on Latapy.  Talk to Portugese and mention Latapy and they would nod knowingly.  But that was about it.  Imagine my absolute thrill when one day watching CL football, I saw the matchup was Porto against Sampdoria and Latas was starting for Bobby Robson's team.

Latas ran the show that day and I felt so proud.  Game went to extra time and then penalty kicks.  Latas was one of the penalty takers, missed, and Porto went on to lose.  From heaven to hell in the space of a few minutes.

So honestly...I eh know how much "EVIDENCE" we will have to show Latas' career brilliance.  But if ever a player deserved a montage of clips...and I know they out there because they must be in TTT and other TV station film archives somewhere, it would be Russel Latapy.  If not, you can show your children and grandchildren that 20 minutes against Paraguay.  It's about as good a cameo as one can get and hopefully they will come away with a SENSE of just how great the Little Magician really was.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: TrinInfinite on August 18, 2006, 04:17:47 PM
latas was the greatest without a doubt, the true definition of trinidad football, he was by far the greatest dribbler and passer in his time for trinidad and im proud tuh say he is also an east dry river brother :beermug: ;D
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: berris on August 18, 2006, 04:23:39 PM
latas was the greatest without a doubt, the true definition of trinidad football, he was by far the greatest dribbler and passer in his time for trinidad and im proud tuh say he is also an east dry river brother :beermug: ;D

TI yuh mean bredda, right  ;D
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: TrinInfinite on August 18, 2006, 04:51:20 PM
latas was the greatest without a doubt, the true definition of trinidad football, he was by far the greatest dribbler and passer in his time for trinidad and im proud tuh say he is also an east dry river brother :beermug: ;D

TI yuh mean bredda, right  ;D

a distinguished player like latas i decided tuh use brother ;D but yuh right bredda ;D
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Filho on August 18, 2006, 04:56:44 PM
Dwight vs Latas...hard debate. Most local adults will pick Latas because they will have more live memories of Latas at his absolute best. Latas seems to have more all-round natural ability on the ball than Yorke. He also has more flair and Trinis love that. More importantly he has tended to outshine Yorkie when they put on the red black and white...especially before this last WC campaign. Even now at 38, his cameo against Paraguay shows he can do things no other Trini can do. Latas jumpstart the campaign with that goal against Guatemala...somehow, if anybody was going to do that..it was Latas. We older Trinis (anyone out of their teens) would consider him our most talented and hence best player..not that younger Trinis would not agree, or older ones disagree...I just think it is more likely that adult Trinis would pick Latas

Yorke is more famous and by most football standards, more successful. He played in a higher profile team, in a higher profile league and did things at club level that Latas never had the chance to prove he could do (Porto and Rangers being just a step below Man U in the global football hierarchy). So to most people outside of T&T, and probably younger Trinis, Yorke would be the man.

I say Latas more talented, Yorke more successful..is a tie  ;D
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mr Mc on August 18, 2006, 05:08:55 PM
Dwight vs Latas...hard debate. Most local adults will pick Latas because they will have more live memories of Latas at his absolute best. Latas seems to have more all-round natural ability on the ball than Yorke. He also has more flair and Trinis love that. More importantly he has tended to outshine Yorkie when they put on the red black and white...especially before this last WC campaign. Even now at 38, his cameo against Paraguay shows he can do things no other Trini can do. Latas jumpstart the campaign with that goal against Guatemala...somehow, if anybody was going to do that..it was Latas. We older Trinis (anyone out of their teens) would consider him our most talented and hence best player..not that younger Trinis would not agree, or older ones disagree...I just think it is more likely that adult Trinis would pick Latas

Yorke is more famous and by most football standards, more successful. He played in a higher profile team, in a higher profile league and did things at club level that Latas never had the chance to prove he could do (Porto and Rangers being just a step below Man U in the global football hierarchy). So to most people outside of T&T, and probably younger Trinis, Yorke would be the man.

I say Latas more talented, Yorke more successful..is a tie  ;D


thats what i think there
Latas is the more skillful baller, Yorke is the more successful.

For those who follow NBA is like asking who is better between Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson, skill vs championship rings.

Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 18, 2006, 05:20:52 PM
For those who follow NBA is like asking who is better between Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson, skill vs championship rings.

Ah hearin yuh but I eh agree wit dah comparison.  No disrespeck but Iverson eh want nutting wit Kobe sah.  8)
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mr Mc on August 18, 2006, 05:26:25 PM
For those who follow NBA is like asking who is better between Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson, skill vs championship rings.

Ah hearin yuh but I eh agree wit dah comparison.  No disrespeck but Iverson eh want nutting wit Kobe sah.  8)

very true very ture...to me kobe is the man in the league
but i wanted to pick guys i thought everyone would know
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: College on August 18, 2006, 05:27:06 PM
couldn't resist replying to this post. for me, Latas all the way.. Yorke and Latas were both world class players and while Yorke had more success, in my eyes, Latas  is better in almost every measurable category.

i was lucky to watch Latas from the u-16 days, thru college's league and natl senior team and i've never seen another player in T&T colors who had such a commanding presence on the field despite his meagre stature.

i've seen Latas at all levels, play and entire game without making a mistake, in total command, doing whatever, wherever and to whom ever was in his way.

its a pity he did not play at a high profile club... lemme ask allyuh something, yuh think Beckham could ever compare with Latas? Becks played and is playing with the cream of the crop and is definitely more successfull but when yuh break down the components of their respective gamesi, he is no where in Latas' class..call me bias or just a Trini but Latas is on of the best players i've ever seen play this game.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: trinbago on August 18, 2006, 05:27:55 PM
I think the most important point in this whole post was this and it is very, very valid:

Quote
For those of us who don't have 1001 memories of the guy, imagine our children, what is there to prove that this man was as great as we all think he is?  


We older heads know Latas...but will the youths and unborn ever know about this "GREAT" ? There is not that much published about him or as the poster rightly asked media on him when he was at the top flight clubs...the little that we older heads do know is when Latas played in school,  in national games but we have not really seen him in club games when he was at his prime.....If anything we were able to catch a game of Yorke..not Latas

I think....No....I know it will be a great loss to us if we don't get some type of archive comomorating his achievments. Men like Latas only come once in a few generations (just like they are still trying to find the next MJ)...we should not let his magic be lost  
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: College on August 18, 2006, 05:35:26 PM
I think the most important point in this whole post was this and it is very, very valid:

Quote
For those of us who don't have 1001 memories of the guy, imagine our children, what is there to prove that this man was as great as we all think he is? 


We older heads know Latas...but will the youths and unborn ever know about this "GREAT" ? There is not that much published about him or as the poster rightly asked media on him when he was at the top flight clubs...the little that we older heads do know is when Latas played in school,  in national games but we have not really seen him in club games when he was at his prime.....If anything we were able to catch a game of Yorke..not Latas

I think....No....I know it will be a great loss to us if we don't get some type of archive comomorating his achievments. Men like Latas only come once in a few generations (just like they are still trying to find the next MJ)...we should not let his magic be lost   

nice post, and you are quite right
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Midknight on August 18, 2006, 05:49:14 PM
I think the most important point in this whole post was this and it is very, very valid:

Quote
For those of us who don't have 1001 memories of the guy, imagine our children, what is there to prove that this man was as great as we all think he is?  


We older heads know Latas...but will the youths and unborn ever know about this "GREAT" ? There is not that much published about him or as the poster rightly asked media on him when he was at the top flight clubs...the little that we older heads do know is when Latas played in school,  in national games but we have not really seen him in club games when he was at his prime.....If anything we were able to catch a game of Yorke..not Latas

I think....No....I know it will be a great loss to us if we don't get some type of archive comomorating his achievments. Men like Latas only come once in a few generations (just like they are still trying to find the next MJ)...we should not let his magic be lost  

Thank you...

Once again. This isn't a Latapy vs Yorke thread...Please lets try to reflect on the important part...
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: doc on August 18, 2006, 06:01:08 PM
Here's one who thinks that despite Latapy's superlative technical ability, he wasn't the greatest. Simply because he wasn't adaptable. He is most effective playing in an advanced position which means that he needs a water carrier/indian to free him up to display his chieftain qualities. However,  more often than not when I've seen him play, he was not provided that "luxury" resulting in a very enigmatic performance. I've seen him play live on only 3 occasions, and on television in another handful of games. While this only represents a small sample, that observation wasn't lost on me. There were odd moments of brilliance interspaced between loooooooong periods of obscurity in the engine room at that. Unfortunately the engine wasn't on auto-pilot >:(

If this says anything, it's that he wasn't put in a position to really flourish. Which is why I can hold Beenhakker in high regard - deploying him in a very advanced position, except in Bahrain game two where his task was to help keep the ball another of his strengths. Oh how I would have loved to see him given the freedom he deserved, but pragmatism sometimes have a greater sway. ;D
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 18, 2006, 06:08:38 PM
Here's one who thinks that despite Latapy's superlative technical ability, he wasn't the greatest. Simply because he wasn't adaptable. He is most effective playing in an advanced position which means that he needs a water carrier/indian to free him up to display his chieftain qualities. However,  more often than not when I've seen him play, he was not provided that "luxury" resulting in a very enigmatic performance. I've seen him play live on only 3 occasions, and on television in another handful of games. While this only represents a small sample, that observation wasn't lost on me. There were odd moments of brilliance interspaced between loooooooong periods of obscurity in the engine room at that. Unfortunately the engine wasn't on auto-pilot >:(

If this says anything, it's that he wasn't put in a position to really flourish. Which is why I can hold Beenhakker in high regard - deploying him in a very advanced position, except in Bahrain game two where his task was to help keep the ball another of his strengths. Oh how I would have loved to see him given the freedom he deserved, but pragmatism sometimes have a greater sway. ;D

Great post doc.  I cyah disagree with yuh at all.  Still love meh Latas doh.. ;D

Respeck.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 18, 2006, 06:11:25 PM
Russell Latapy is truly the greatest Player I have ever seen play with my own two eyes!!  My memories of him go just a little further back than his U-16 days for T&T.  I had the extreme honour of being on a team that played against him in a Secondary Schools' Under-14 match right in front of the pavilion on QRC Grounds and we had all been quaking in our boots in Fear of Russell's arrival for that game, such was the reputation as a footballer that had preceeded him. It was the first time I had heard of him and saw him play and I was COMPLETELY bowled over by his entire game!!   As a schoolboy in his Tranquil days, Latas had an opportunity to go play for a team in england: Blackpool (i'm not sure if it's United, FC, or what.) but he did go and try out for the team, and this was at a time when players from the caribbean like him were not getting those kinds of opportunities.  I will leave the rest of the memories and postings to the rest of the men on the forum.  There will be PLENTY, but as one poster noted earlier, it seemed as though he ALWAYS gave his best effort in a T&T uniform even at times when Dwight didn't.  One of  (as far as I have seen).  Truly a class act.    
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: doublet750 on August 18, 2006, 06:17:39 PM
Midknight ill help deal withthe bold part of your text



I canot give you any hard stats however i can tel you at Porto he was the mentor to palyers that are now in teh ranks like quaresma and Deco and all these exciting young portugese players.....he was well respected and i believe that it was madness who pointed out to me that at Porto he had the name Lil magician and Deco so wanted to emulate him that he called himself MAGICO .....to mean the smaller version of little magician (do rember that deco and these guys were prolly on the fringes of the teams back then trying to make a break through as youths.

i believe latas was well respected at porto but he wanted a change of scenery and thus the move to scotland.....your right he isnt recognized as much as dwight and i thik thats cause in all reality Dwight yorke has palyed for at least 4 premiership teams ....and while only manchester united can stand on par with porto ...the EPL is more broadcasted than the Portuguese SUperliga....so therfore more exposure.

Remeber exposure is key ....and while latas has been regarded as a exceptonally talented player  by each and every one of his clubs  ..these clubs play in leagues where they don't have games broadcasted on major channels that would air throughout our region of the world....There is prolly someone in this world better than Michael Jordan ..Tiger woods hell there could even be a lil fella somewhere in some dark corner of the world with more ball skills and touches than Ronaldinho.....but if they arent being noticed will they ever get anywhere..no
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: ttcom on August 18, 2006, 06:21:06 PM
My memories Latas was from the U16  tornument. San Fernando Tech. Was a player to watch. I think the main reason he didn't be as big as yorke was his size. 5'6 130 lbs wont stand a chance in in europe than. When he went to Port Morant in Jamdown he tuffen up.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Filho on August 18, 2006, 06:52:15 PM
Midknight ill help deal withthe bold part of your text



I canot give you any hard stats however i can tel you at Porto he was the mentor to palyers that are now in teh ranks like quaresma and Deco and all these exciting young portugese players.....he was well respected and i believe that it was madness who pointed out to me that at Porto he had the name Lil magician and Deco so wanted to emulate him that he called himself MAGICO .....to mean the smaller version of little magician (do rember that deco and these guys were prolly on the fringes of the teams back then trying to make a break through as youths.

i believe latas was well respected at porto but he wanted a change of scenery and thus the move to scotland.....your right he isnt recognized as much as dwight and i thik thats cause in all reality Dwight yorke has palyed for at least 4 premiership teams ....and while only manchester united can stand on par with porto ...the EPL is more broadcasted than the Portuguese SUperliga....so therfore more exposure.

Remeber exposure is key ....and while latas has been regarded as a exceptonally talented player  by each and every one of his clubs  ..these clubs play in leagues where they don't have games broadcasted on major channels that would air throughout our region of the world....There is prolly someone in this world better than Michael Jordan ..Tiger woods hell there could even be a lil fella somewhere in some dark corner of the world with more ball skills and touches than Ronaldinho.....but if they arent being noticed will they ever get anywhere..no


hmmm? doublet..u making up some serious tings dere.

Latas played for Porto between 1994-1996
Deco, didn't arrive in Portugal until 1997...from Brazil. Magico also does not mean little magician in portuguese..and I doubt Latas was even known as the Little Magician in Portugal..That is almost exclusively a Trini thing which has caught on a little in Scotland.
Quaresma was 13 years old when Latas left Porto...and even so, his team was Sporting where he came up as a trainee before going to Barca in 2003 and didn't go to Porto until 2004..and he didn't even want to go there, even though he desperately wanted to leave Barca.
Latas was no mentor to any of these players. He left Porto 10 years ago. I don't think there are any young exciting portuguese players he would have been mentor to. If he influenced anyone, they would probably be well into their mid to late twenties or early 30s by now.

After Porto, he spent another 2 years in Portugal at Boavista. So he didn't leave for Scotland right away for a change of scenery.

Latas is a boss. I went to business school with a fellas called Joao. When he learned I was from T&T he went on to tell me Latas was a great player at Porto, but he didn't stay very long, but fans still remember him and this fella would pronounce is name Latahpee, with an emphasis on the 2nd syllable. Latas never ahd the profesional accolades as Yorke, but his talent was matched by no other T&T footballer I have ever seen. And Yorke never came close to him in a T&T shirt, except for a short period in WC 2002 qualifiers (semi-final stage) and now that Latas is really in his twilight.

Doc...Latas definitely had his shortcomings, but in a comparison to Yorke in that regard...well Latas was far more adaptable in a more important sense (imo). Yorke seems more adaptable as he has proven he can play midfield or up front...but in terms of being able to play at a high level in Europe in one system and then transform your game back to being able to play at a high level in Concacaf, in a completely different system, different type of football, different weather. Well, Latas could almost always do it. For ages, Yorke just couldn't and he would look a shadow of himself for T&T...until now. I still calling it a tie. Our two prodigal sons are the greatest!
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: dumpalewie on August 18, 2006, 06:57:44 PM
If Latas was European we would be talking about him as one of the greats.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: trinbago on August 18, 2006, 07:36:23 PM
There was only one player better than Latas and Yorke !  :devil: ;D ;D

(http://www.socawarriorssc.com/gallery/albums/seniorteam/player/j/jemmott_kerwyn/tt/vsIraq_05232004.jpg)
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Midknight on August 18, 2006, 08:37:09 PM
Midknight ill help deal withthe bold part of your text



I canot give you any hard stats however i can tel you at Porto he was the mentor to palyers that are now in teh ranks like quaresma and Deco and all these exciting young portugese players.....he was well respected and i believe that it was madness who pointed out to me that at Porto he had the name Lil magician and Deco so wanted to emulate him that he called himself MAGICO .....to mean the smaller version of little magician (do rember that deco and these guys were prolly on the fringes of the teams back then trying to make a break through as youths.

i believe latas was well respected at porto but he wanted a change of scenery and thus the move to scotland.....your right he isnt recognized as much as dwight and i thik thats cause in all reality Dwight yorke has palyed for at least 4 premiership teams ....and while only manchester united can stand on par with porto ...the EPL is more broadcasted than the Portuguese SUperliga....so therfore more exposure.

Remeber exposure is key ....and while latas has been regarded as a exceptonally talented player  by each and every one of his clubs  ..these clubs play in leagues where they don't have games broadcasted on major channels that would air throughout our region of the world....There is prolly someone in this world better than Michael Jordan ..Tiger woods hell there could even be a lil fella somewhere in some dark corner of the world with more ball skills and touches than Ronaldinho.....but if they arent being noticed will they ever get anywhere..no


hmmm? doublet..u making up some serious tings dere.

Latas played for Porto between 1994-1996
Deco, didn't arrive in Portugal until 1997...from Brazil. Magico also does not mean little magician in portuguese..and I doubt Latas was even known as the Little Magician in Portugal..That is almost exclusively a Trini thing which has caught on a little in Scotland.
Quaresma was 13 years old when Latas left Porto...and even so, his team was Sporting where he came up as a trainee before going to Barca in 2003 and didn't go to Porto until 2004..and he didn't even want to go there, even though he desperately wanted to leave Barca.
Latas was no mentor to any of these players. He left Porto 10 years ago. I don't think there are any young exciting portuguese players he would have been mentor to. If he influenced anyone, they would probably be well into their mid to late twenties or early 30s by now.

After Porto, he spent another 2 years in Portugal at Boavista. So he didn't leave for Scotland right away for a change of scenery.

I din't want the man to look bad so i keep quiet  :whistling:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Lower St. John on August 18, 2006, 09:23:19 PM
Big Topic Midnight.

I have been looking at Latas since the Under 16 tournament to the present.  I lost track of him for a long period of time after I left home and I was not able to follow his career in Portugal.  On the other hand I was able to follow Dwight because of the fact that he played in the EPL.  As men have said in prior posts Latas skills were evident from the early days and for men who looked for more than the fancy beat from the likes of Colin Rocke and Clint Marcelle, your eyes were attracted to the little man in the middle from his youthful days.  He had the full package vision, passing ability, for a small man remarkably he could strike the ball well with both feet, and a great first touch.

Now it is important to note that we always refer to Latas as the "Little" Magician.  It is because of his size that I believe Latas never made it in the EPL.  The EPL in tha past and even to this day was always a very physical league with big size players and Latas size most likely scared off teams back in the 80's.

The funny thing is that it was hard to discern a drop-off in Latas game when he played for the National Team because I never saw him play at the Club level.  On the other hand with Dwight I was never totally convinced that Dwight was playing at the same level and with the same conviction as he did at Man U.  I always felt he was on vacation and had an understanding with Jack to schedule National games the week of Carnival so he could jump up in Poison. 

One noticeable difference between the two was Dwight being a fitness fanatic.  Dwight was always remarmably fit (although he never truly exerted himself in the national colours) but I never felt that Latas could run all out for a full 90-minutes.  HAving known Latas since the early days the stories about his smoking is not exaggerated and it should ne noted it was not only cigarettes.  The moments Latas turned up the heat in the midfield it was pure magic to behold, but it was not a constant.  He picked his points in the game and paced himself well.

Latas was the best I have seen with Dwight close behind.

Blessings.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Filho on August 18, 2006, 09:25:19 PM
Midknight ill help deal withthe bold part of your text



I canot give you any hard stats however i can tel you at Porto he was the mentor to palyers that are now in teh ranks like quaresma and Deco and all these exciting young portugese players.....he was well respected and i believe that it was madness who pointed out to me that at Porto he had the name Lil magician and Deco so wanted to emulate him that he called himself MAGICO .....to mean the smaller version of little magician (do rember that deco and these guys were prolly on the fringes of the teams back then trying to make a break through as youths.

i believe latas was well respected at porto but he wanted a change of scenery and thus the move to scotland.....your right he isnt recognized as much as dwight and i thik thats cause in all reality Dwight yorke has palyed for at least 4 premiership teams ....and while only manchester united can stand on par with porto ...the EPL is more broadcasted than the Portuguese SUperliga....so therfore more exposure.

Remeber exposure is key ....and while latas has been regarded as a exceptonally talented player  by each and every one of his clubs  ..these clubs play in leagues where they don't have games broadcasted on major channels that would air throughout our region of the world....There is prolly someone in this world better than Michael Jordan ..Tiger woods hell there could even be a lil fella somewhere in some dark corner of the world with more ball skills and touches than Ronaldinho.....but if they arent being noticed will they ever get anywhere..no


hmmm? doublet..u making up some serious tings dere.

Latas played for Porto between 1994-1996
Deco, didn't arrive in Portugal until 1997...from Brazil. Magico also does not mean little magician in portuguese..and I doubt Latas was even known as the Little Magician in Portugal..That is almost exclusively a Trini thing which has caught on a little in Scotland.
Quaresma was 13 years old when Latas left Porto...and even so, his team was Sporting where he came up as a trainee before going to Barca in 2003 and didn't go to Porto until 2004..and he didn't even want to go there, even though he desperately wanted to leave Barca.
Latas was no mentor to any of these players. He left Porto 10 years ago. I don't think there are any young exciting portuguese players he would have been mentor to. If he influenced anyone, they would probably be well into their mid to late twenties or early 30s by now.

After Porto, he spent another 2 years in Portugal at Boavista. So he didn't leave for Scotland right away for a change of scenery.

I din't want the man to look bad so i keep quiet  :whistling:

I talk to the man and the truth is, he had some good info from different sources, but in putting it all together, I think he misinterpreted some of the info. Hard to explain. It was a hard luck on his part but it was not like he was making up stuff or anything like that. For example, he was able to show that Latas and Deco have respect for each other, and they knew each other and they obviously played for the same team. But they weren't there at the same time, so Latas wasn't his mentor in that sense.

Anyway....I should have just hit doublet a PM. After speaking to him, I would have seen where he was coming from and worded my response in a different way.  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: saga pinto on August 18, 2006, 10:40:30 PM
All I have to say is Latas is a legend in the making...............
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: dinho on August 19, 2006, 05:32:00 AM
responding to the first post..

my memory is not 100% on but i remember at porto when latapy was there, there was another midfielder who was preferred to him, i think because he was a more physical presence if not nearly as skillful as latas.. he started a few more games..

i think it was rui barros but then i remember he being a forward so cyah be him.. but they also had latas playing a kinda defensive mid position like where nakhid was playing behind him for t&t in those days.. i dont think that was his best position..

 i will never forget switching on espn, porto vs panathinaikos i think, and latas sweating.. i was so proud.. but he ent share no beat that game, if fact hardly kept the ball for more than 2 touches and u could see he was playing a role.. collect and pass.. no dribbling allowed..

anyway just my 2 cents
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: JDB on August 19, 2006, 06:28:59 AM
Latas WAS Boavista when he was there and that is why Porto bought hime. he was part of the team that went from a small side to a serious title contender.

When he went Porto he suffered from a mix of stepping up to a big club and a change in team management.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: duscam on August 19, 2006, 07:52:02 AM
want it emerson? not the one from brazil but i think it was emerson..could be wrong
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: morvant on August 19, 2006, 08:04:50 AM
spanners with de best of dem bar none :beermug:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Gladman on August 19, 2006, 10:42:06 AM
Looking at a midfielders contribution to football as compared to a striker is very difficult and especially if the striker is very prolific.SO comparing Yorkie and Latas and tryin to distiguish who is better is a waste of time,its should be jus noted that the both of were the best in the respective positions for this country.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: ZURITRESS on August 19, 2006, 11:22:24 AM
dont post much, but this is close to me. the first time i saw russel was 1980, i was ten and he was 12. on qrc grounds back when big men was playing collage lleague ttranquillywas playing qrc. the field had alot of current members of the nnationalu19  team including my brother who played for ttranquillyand the buzz around the ground was the 12 year old phenom who was on the tranquill bench, rRusselllatapy every ppossiblevviewingangle was taken. tranquill coach sSgtlamkin was going to play rRussellwas the word. with about 12 mMin'sto go he came on and proceeded to eembarrassthree respect players down by the left side corner flag with his first, second and third ttouchesof the game. his fourth touch he was almost kick out of the grounds. message sent, come back when you can defend yourself, but everybody who saw new the legend had begun. my was a top youth player in tTrinidadand he took me everywhere including to newtown coaching school where jah lillywhite a neighbour and family friend started the school and where latas fine tuned his god blessed talent. i played with rRussellfor two years in tranquill so i also saw it up close. back then because of his size he was played as a forward so that he could use his skills more in and around the box. my most mmemorablemoment he scored with his eye vs cic in an u16 semi to this day still proably the only header he ever scored. guys i could go on and on but rRussellprobelm has always been his size talent wise he has always been the best player on the field. back when Yorke who i also played with on nNat'su14 and u16 teams went to england the game was not as sophisticated as it is today it was more voom kick and run only a few teams played knock and keep it on the carpet most notably liverpool and even the skilled guys roughed it up abit so latas just did not fit in there ,it was not the only reason but it is not my place there. it is also why it took Yorke awhile to establish himself, for those who don't know yorkie could match skill with anybody out there back in the day, he and Russell lived with that ball night and day together because Dwight stay with Russell alot of times when he came over from Tobago he changed his game to adapt to the English game what the youths don't know is that strike squad run was one of the most naturally talented group of players they never got to see in their prime Russell and Dwight was just the best of the lot and not just those who played on the strike squad let me leave you with a name Sean constantine aka yellows or red ants was  almost as talented as Russell but even smaller
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: vb on August 19, 2006, 11:47:36 AM
Just some quick points.

Russel played for four years in the Port. Second Div. before he was hand picked by Robson for Porto. The team had 11 internationals on it including 7 members of the Portugues team.

He earned a starting place on this team. He and Yorke both turned down offers from the Italian Seria A. I believe the team was Sampdoria for both.

He moved to Boavist to make more of a name for himself and won the the League Cup with them.

Villa try to sweet talk Yorke to stay by dangling the idea of having Latas join the team. Well when Yrke moved over to MU, they overs Latas and a man of his amazing talent end up in the Scottish Sec. Div. with HIbs.

He became a Hibs legend and took them to the First Div.

Rangers only sack him because his ex Hibs Manager at Rangers had a chip on his shoulder about Latas behaviour during the Hibs days.

I personally believe that the most of the tens was a waste of Latas career as he should have been playing for a team of a much higher standard.

It's AMAZING that a midfielder in his late 30s could still manners top players like that.

Peace,
VB
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 19, 2006, 11:59:11 AM
It's AMAZING that a midfielder in his late 30s could still manners top players like that.
Peace,
VB

Is GENIUS yuh dealin with.  Once yuh put it into dat perspective...it eh really all dat amazing.  GENIUS IS GENIUS...dat doh dead.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: trinbago on August 19, 2006, 12:23:04 PM
dont post much, but this is close to me. the first time i saw russel was 1980, i was ten and he was 12. on qrc grounds back when big men was playing collage lleague ttranquillywas playing qrc. the field had alot of current members of the nnationalu19  team including my brother who played for ttranquillyand the buzz around the ground was the 12 year old phenom who was on the tranquill bench, rRusselllatapy every ppossiblevviewingangle was taken. tranquill coach sSgtlamkin was going to play rRussellwas the word. with about 12 mMin'sto go he came on and proceeded to eembarrassthree respect players down by the left side corner flag with his first, second and third ttouchesof the game. his fourth touch he was almost kick out of the grounds. message sent, come back when you can defend yourself, but everybody who saw new the legend had begun. my was a top youth player in tTrinidadand he took me everywhere including to newtown coaching school where jah lillywhite a neighbour and family friend started the school and where latas fine tuned his god blessed talent. i played with rRussellfor two years in tranquill so i also saw it up close. back then because of his size he was played as a forward so that he could use his skills more in and around the box. my most mmemorablemoment he scored with his eye vs cic in an u16 semi to this day still proably the only header he ever scored. guys i could go on and on but rRussellprobelm has always been his size talent wise he has always been the best player on the field. back when Yorke who i also played with on nNat'su14 and u16 teams went to england the game was not as sophisticated as it is today it was more voom kick and run only a few teams played knock and keep it on the carpet most notably liverpool and even the skilled guys roughed it up abit so latas just did not fit in there ,it was not the only reason but it is not my place there. it is also why it took Yorke awhile to establish himself, for those who don't know yorkie could match skill with anybody out there back in the day, he and Russell lived with that ball night and day together because Dwight stay with Russell alot of times when he came over from Tobago he changed his game to adapt to the English game what the youths don't know is that strike squad run was one of the most naturally talented group of players they never got to see in their prime Russell and Dwight was just the best of the lot and not just those who played on the strike squad let me leave you with a name Sean constantine aka yellows or red ants was  almost as talented as Russell but even smaller

It is stuff like this that defines this TnT hero, we can not let this be lost.....A Football Archive/Hall Of Fame  needs to be put in place..
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: vb on August 19, 2006, 12:29:28 PM
It's AMAZING that a midfielder in his late 30s could still manners top players like that.
Peace,
VB

Is GENIUS yuh dealin with.  Once yuh put it into dat perspective...it eh really all dat amazing.  GENIUS IS GENIUS...dat doh dead.

Boy Stoichkov and Hagi were "geniuses," and they couldn't last that long.
And I'm pretty sure Beckham won't either.

VB
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 19, 2006, 12:51:58 PM
It's AMAZING that a midfielder in his late 30s could still manners top players like that.
Peace,
VB

Is GENIUS yuh dealin with.  Once yuh put it into dat perspective...it eh really all dat amazing.  GENIUS IS GENIUS...dat doh dead.

Boy Stoichkov and Hagi were "geniuses," and they couldn't last that long.
And I'm pretty sure Beckham won't either.

VB

Breds.....wit all due respeck....if Stoichkov and Hagi was playin in de SPL...even up to today, dey woulda still be rippin, jes like Latas.

As fuh Beckham....I real surprise a man like u could even put Beckham name in de same post to imply genius.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 19, 2006, 12:52:38 PM
It's AMAZING that a midfielder in his late 30s could still manners top players like that.
Peace,
VB

Is GENIUS yuh dealin with.  Once yuh put it into dat perspective...it eh really all dat amazing.  GENIUS IS GENIUS...dat doh dead. 

Boy Stoichkov and Hagi were "geniuses," and they couldn't last that long.
And I'm pretty sure Beckham won't either.

VB

Breds.....wit all due respeck....if Stoichkov and Hagi was playin in de SPL...even up to today, dey woulda still be rippin, jes like Latas.  It IS de SPL we talkin bout.

As fuh Beckham....I real surprise a man like u could even put Beckham name in de same post to imply genius.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: andre samuel on August 20, 2006, 07:11:18 AM
Latas WAS Boavista when he was there and that is why Porto bought hime. he was part of the team that went from a small side to a serious title contender.

When he went Porto he suffered from a mix of stepping up to a big club and a change in team management.

Juma, latas was at Porto first.  He suffered at Porto because bobby robson had a rotation policy at the time and never really settled on a starting midfield, due to the number of good players at his disposal.

Latas is the best player that Trinidad and Tobago ever produced.  Both he and Yorke and world class, but i would put Yorke as the greatest because he did something that a Trinidadian might never do again.

He topscore in de flicking champions league!!

ah love it!!
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2006, 09:03:10 AM
dont post much, but this is close to me. the first time i saw russel was 1980, i was ten and he was 12. on qrc grounds back when big men was playing collage lleague ttranquillywas playing qrc. the field had alot of current members of the nnationalu19  team including my brother who played for ttranquillyand the buzz around the ground was the 12 year old phenom who was on the tranquill bench, rRusselllatapy every ppossiblevviewingangle was taken. tranquill coach sSgtlamkin was going to play rRussellwas the word. with about 12 mMin'sto go he came on and proceeded to eembarrassthree respect players down by the left side corner flag with his first, second and third ttouchesof the game. his fourth touch he was almost kick out of the grounds. message sent, come back when you can defend yourself, but everybody who saw new the legend had begun. my was a top youth player in tTrinidadand he took me everywhere including to newtown coaching school where jah lillywhite a neighbour and family friend started the school and where latas fine tuned his god blessed talent. i played with rRussellfor two years in tranquill so i also saw it up close. back then because of his size he was played as a forward so that he could use his skills more in and around the box. my most mmemorablemoment he scored with his eye vs cic in an u16 semi to this day still proably the only header he ever scored. guys i could go on and on but rRussellprobelm has always been his size talent wise he has always been the best player on the field. back when Yorke who i also played with on nNat'su14 and u16 teams went to england the game was not as sophisticated as it is today it was more voom kick and run only a few teams played knock and keep it on the carpet most notably liverpool and even the skilled guys roughed it up abit so latas just did not fit in there ,it was not the only reason but it is not my place there. it is also why it took Yorke awhile to establish himself, for those who don't know yorkie could match skill with anybody out there back in the day, he and Russell lived with that ball night and day together because Dwight stay with Russell alot of times when he came over from Tobago he changed his game to adapt to the English game what the youths don't know is that strike squad run was one of the most naturally talented group of players they never got to see in their prime Russell and Dwight was just the best of the lot and not just those who played on the strike squad let me leave you with a name Sean constantine aka yellows or red ants was  almost as talented as Russell but even smaller

      I would like to know who your brother is that you talk about.  I grew up around Jean (Jah) Lillywhite and quite a few men that were solid players in SSFL at that time: a couple men from Tranquility, including a fella named Noel, the Blades brothers, from Trinity, and I was a big, big fan of Richard Hood.  If only I knew then, what I know now, I woulda go and play under Jean and just followed Latas career from day one.  The man is truly a BOSS!
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: College on August 20, 2006, 11:09:40 AM
Russell Latapy is truly the greatest Player I have ever seen play with my own two eyes!!  My memories of him go just a little further back than his U-16 days for T&T.  I had the extreme honour of being on a team that played against him in a Secondary Schools' Under-14 match right in front of the pavilion on QRC Grounds and we had all been quaking in our boots in Fear of Russell's arrival for that game, such was the reputation as a footballer that had preceeded him. It was the first time I had heard of him and saw him play and I was COMPLETELY bowled over by his entire game!!   As a schoolboy in his Tranquil days, Latas had an opportunity to go play for a team in england: Blackpool (i'm not sure if it's United, FC, or what.) but he did go and try out for the team, and this was at a time when players from the caribbean like him were not getting those kinds of opportunities.  I will leave the rest of the memories and postings to the rest of the men on the forum.  There will be PLENTY, but as one poster noted earlier, it seemed as though he ALWAYS gave his best effort in a T&T uniform even at times when Dwight didn't.  One of  (as far as I have seen).  Truly a class act.   

Bradford City

 
 
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Jah Gol on August 20, 2006, 11:32:50 AM
NCC 4 should have all those National game videos.Maybe the Warrior  Nation could organise to make a DVD box set. And  if we really serious contact Potuguese and Scottish media to get the videos of him that none of us seem to have.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 20, 2006, 02:51:37 PM
Russell Latapy is truly the greatest Player I have ever seen play with my own two eyes!!  My memories of him go just a little further back than his U-16 days for T&T.  I had the extreme honour of being on a team that played against him in a Secondary Schools' Under-14 match right in front of the pavilion on QRC Grounds and we had all been quaking in our boots in Fear of Russell's arrival for that game, such was the reputation as a footballer that had preceeded him. It was the first time I had heard of him and saw him play and I was COMPLETELY bowled over by his entire game!!   As a schoolboy in his Tranquil days, Latas had an opportunity to go play for a team in england: Blackpool (i'm not sure if it's United, FC, or what.) but he did go and try out for the team, and this was at a time when players from the caribbean like him were not getting those kinds of opportunities.  I will leave the rest of the memories and postings to the rest of the men on the forum.  There will be PLENTY, but as one poster noted earlier, it seemed as though he ALWAYS gave his best effort in a T&T uniform even at times when Dwight didn't.  One of  (as far as I have seen).  Truly a class act.   

Bradford City

 
 



  College, boy, yuh sure it was Bradford City and not Blackpool??
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Midknight on August 20, 2006, 02:58:34 PM
And  if we really serious contact Potuguese and Scottish media to get the videos of him that none of us seem to have.

I was thinking about this. Do we have any Portuguese speakers on the board?
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: ZURITRESS on August 20, 2006, 07:44:03 PM
yes it was bradford city and it was not football reasons he did not get the contract, also jorge casagrande the brazillian coach got trails and scholaships for quite a few guys back in those days . to tell how trinidadians taught and still think today one guy who he got a trial with stoke city said he came back because all they did was play two touch football
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: supporter on August 20, 2006, 09:38:18 PM
For those of us who don't have 1001 memories of the guy, imagine our children, what is there to prove that this man was as great as we all think he is? Let me hear alyuh. [/b]


The children of tomorrow need only look at the difference in the Soca Warriors squad during qualification after he made his return.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Grande on August 21, 2006, 07:42:16 AM
Latas WAS Boavista when he was there and that is why Porto bought hime. he was part of the team that went from a small side to a serious title contender.

When he went Porto he suffered from a mix of stepping up to a big club and a change in team management.

Juma, latas was at Porto first.  He suffered at Porto because bobby robson had a rotation policy at the time and never really settled on a starting midfield, due to the number of good players at his disposal.

Latas is the best player that Trinidad and Tobago ever produced.  Both he and Yorke and world class, but i would put Yorke as the greatest because he did something that a Trinidadian might never do again.

He topscore in de flicking champions league!!

ah love it!!

Not taking anything away from Dwight but his many goals in the CL are part due to excellent service from Man U's 1999 midfield.

They don't get the goals; mostly the strikers do....Latapy is one of dem midfielders. Of course the midfielder attacks and gets his share in goals...but rarely you'll see a midfielder on any #1 topscorer list.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: spideybuff on August 21, 2006, 08:43:33 AM
Latapy's problem, as one poster mentioned earlier, is that his game can only flourish based on the mentality of a team. Like how he has Falkirk playing a passing game.Nearing the end of the last season, they were fighting against relegation so they changed their approach cause they were scrapping for survival, thus latas influence waned (plus theobald say tha's why he couldn get sweat).

That has really been his curse. He went to Portugal with Leonson and they made Academica an attractive team and then Porto came in. Because of his stature and because of Trinidad, he had to prove himself to Bobby Robson and the fans and couldn just walk on. Howver, I think a change in mamangement brought a change in philosphy.

The thing is, not many managers can handle ''flair'' players, because u have to base the game around them for them to flourish. This can affect a manager's philosphy and in most cases, it affects their ego because suddenly the team is being based around a player while managers try to instill that it is ''my team'' and that we play as a team. This is why Ronaldinho wasn't as big as he is now, even though he was just as good, when he was at PSG. Fernandez couldn handle big players.
Ginola, Waddle, Gascoigne, Rui Costa when he went to Milan, Veron at ManU...thses are players who accustomed bossing the midfield but certain coaches doh know how to work with that and get the best out of their players. This is what hurt Latas the most. If u name is Maradona or Zidane or u are a Brazilian...u have that rep coming into the team so people know, big name, big player...u just support him. But Latas didn have that so they just couldn give him the boss role at a ''big'' side like Ranger or Porto to allow him to show the fans that he is the boss, and base the team around him like is done at Falkirk and Boavista where he is ''GOD'' like he is to us.

That's also why Beenie bench him in the World Cup. If Beenie was here during the 90's and grow up watchign Trinidad football on tv liek we see the EPL, things woulda be different. But flair players always run that risk.

That is also why Yorke had to adapt to being a striker. When he first left, he and Latas were both Attackign Midfielders vying for the same spot under Gally, until public outcry insist Yorke must start. At Villa, because it was a ''big club'' Yorke had to adapt his game in order to get a sweat otherwise he woulda remain in obsucrity just because he come from a county with no rep cause he wasn;t goign to get that position to be ''d man'' in the midfield who the play goes through. Latas was always d man and when he went to portugal it was with Academica so he never had to worry about adapting in order to sweat. Tha's where Yorke get the edge over him.

But Latas is the greatest bar none, we al lknow that. We just can't prove it. Kinda like how people who see Di Stefano insist that he better than Pele and Maradona, and he have stats to back it too. But nobody else really care except his supporters.... :-[
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Bakes on August 21, 2006, 11:05:55 AM
In all this talk about greatness...let's not forget what Yorke was able to accomplish, playing at the top of his game, at the top of the sport (the EPL at the time was arguably the best league in the world...top two definitely with the Italian).  Unfortunate that Latas (my sentimental favorite) didn't get a better oportunity to display his talent on a bigger stage, but ultimately he made his mark against inferior competition compared to Dwight.  Not meant as a slight to Latas...just cold, hard facts.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: jai john on August 21, 2006, 11:20:24 AM
I remember some time ago on UWI ground someone praising yorke about how good he was ...Yorke told him Russel was better...at the time !
Latapy is the best player I have ever seen for Trinidad. Yorke is the best trinidadian player I have seen playing for his club..you work it out !
is is like the question of who is better ..maradona or Pele ...not even FIFA could answer that one and they have all the facts !
I wonder if they could clone Latas  ??? ???
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: StoreBayLimer on August 21, 2006, 06:59:33 PM
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.  He might be considered a good or very good player.   We all understand that to be considered great a player must play with the best, and/or against the best, and demonstrate his or her superior ability  among those players.   Not to offend anyone, ...we have been down this road many times,  and as others have also  pointed out Latapy’s achievements  to date are not significant enough for him to be labeled as a great player.

Many of us appreciate hearing the sentimental stories about Latapy in U16 etc. Nonetheless in many sports,  demonstrated brilliance at a young age does not always translate into success as a professional.  Recently, there has  been  a number of stories about the number 1 picks in the NFL draft who dropped out of the league after a few short seasons, or those who simply did not live up to expectations as a professional.  A person who achieved the status of number 1 pick in the NFL draft must have been brilliant in University and in all likelihood a star in high school and his hometown. 




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For me...Latas is the best footballer I ever see in a T&T uniform.  Make that in any Caribbean football uniform.  Make that in any CONCACAF region uniform.  Bar NONE.  Dwight Yorke is an excellent player....but footballer for footballer....FOR ME....He not in latas' league.
....
That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.


Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: berris on August 21, 2006, 10:49:45 PM
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.  He might be considered a good or very good player.   We all understand that to be considered great a player must play with the best, and/or against the best, and demonstrate his or her superior ability  among those players.   Not to offend anyone, ...we have been down this road many times,  and as others have also  pointed out Latapy’s achievements  to date are not significant enough for him to be labeled as a great player.

Many of us appreciate hearing the sentimental stories about Latapy in U16 etc. Nonetheless in many sports,  demonstrated brilliance at a young age does not always translate into success as a professional.  Recently, there has  been  a number of stories about the number 1 picks in the NFL draft who dropped out of the league after a few short seasons, or those who simply did not live up to expectations as a professional.  A person who achieved the status of number 1 pick in the NFL draft must have been brilliant in University and in all likelihood a star in high school and his hometown. 




That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.





With all due respect ah have to alert de formites  ....TATA ALERT !!  TATA ALERT !! BIG BIG TATA ALERT !! ALL YUH WATCH OUT IT LACED WITH PURE .. :bs: :bs: :bs:

yuh got to be joking  ??? ??? ???   :bs: :bs: :bs:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 21, 2006, 11:17:19 PM

....
For me...Latas is the best footballer I ever see in a T&T uniform.  Make that in any Caribbean football uniform.  Make that in any CONCACAF region uniform.  Bar NONE.  Dwight Yorke is an excellent player....but footballer for footballer....FOR ME....He not in latas' league.
....
That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.


Because I state something you may not happen to agree with, it "destroy my credibility?"  Wha part of "FOR ME, and Latas is the best footballer I EVER SEE in a T&T uniform" you doh get?  Who is you to determine if my opinion or what I see is credible or not?

Haul yuh sanctimonious, insular ass wit dat shit.
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Dutty on August 22, 2006, 06:41:59 AM
Ahm....allyuh aware de man does check out dis forum every now an then


Not that I think he would give one ass about anybodys opinion of him at this point...but still....


By de way...Latas have chirren?..ah son even?
Any of his brothers have chirren?.....prodigy skills does genetically jump sometimes yuh know
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Grande on August 22, 2006, 09:14:56 AM
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.

So is EPL or nothing fuh you? That is de league to end all leagues ent? Steups. Allyuh EPL-worshippers is something else yes.


By de way...Latas have chirren?..ah son even?
Any of his brothers have chirren?.....prodigy skills does genetically jump sometimes yuh know

Latas had a son last year  :beermug:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 22, 2006, 09:35:55 AM
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.  He might be considered a good or very good player.   We all understand that to be considered great a player must play with the best, and/or against the best, and demonstrate his or her superior ability  among those players.   Not to offend anyone, ...we have been down this road many times,  and as others have also  pointed out Latapy’s achievements  to date are not significant enough for him to be labeled as a great player.

Many of us appreciate hearing the sentimental stories about Latapy in U16 etc. Nonetheless in many sports,  demonstrated brilliance at a young age does not always translate into success as a professional.  Recently, there has  been  a number of stories about the number 1 picks in the NFL draft who dropped out of the league after a few short seasons, or those who simply did not live up to expectations as a professional.  A person who achieved the status of number 1 pick in the NFL draft must have been brilliant in University and in all likelihood a star in high school and his hometown. 




That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.





With all due respect ah have to alert de formites  ....TATA ALERT !!  TATA ALERT !! BIG BIG TATA ALERT !! ALL YUH WATCH OUT IT LACED WITH PURE .. :bs: :bs: :bs:

yuh got to be joking  ??? ??? ???   :bs: :bs: :bs:


      Yuh didn't have to give ME de alert.  I was getting a hissing sound and an acrid fecal smell emanating from my computer as soon as I turned it on!!   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: StoreBayLimer on August 22, 2006, 10:54:45 PM

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For me...Latas is the best footballer I ever see in a T&T uniform.  Make that in any Caribbean football uniform.  Make that in any CONCACAF region uniform.  Bar NONE.  Dwight Yorke is an excellent player....but footballer for footballer....FOR ME....He not in latas' league.
....
That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.


Because I state something you may not happen to agree with, it "destroy my credibility?"  Wha part of "FOR ME, and Latas is the best footballer I EVER SEE in a T&T uniform" you doh get?  Who is you to determine if my opinion or what I see is credible or not?

Haul yuh sanctimonious, insular ass wit dat shit.

Your suggestion that because you include ``for me’’ etc,  in your statement that that somehow makes it plausible or acceptable  is simply not true.  Is it possible to turn incredible statements into credible statements by simply putting ``For me’’ or  “in my opinion”  in the statement? In general the answer is no.  If a  person makes the  statement  `` For me 1 + 2 = 5,” then it is easy to reject that.  Likewise you might think that your statement is notsimilar because it might involve some judgment.  But performance is sport is quantifiable, and in fact with the clock and the numerous measures (assists, goals, touches of the ball),  it is easy to see  that some  statements are of the form `` For me 1 + 2 = 5.”  Is it possible to hide one’s bias or preference when talking about the best or great by including ``for me’’ etc. In general the answer is no. And that is also partly because the use and understanding of best and great in some ways contains a negation of ``for me’’ etc.  If a golf commentator says that David Duval is the best golfer of this generation because he made the lowest score in a round on the PGA tour. Then whether he adds ``for me’’ or not is irrelevant, his judgment is clearly questionable and his other statementsabout profs golfers could not really be taken as reliable.  And that is in spite of the fact that Duval does hold the record for the lowest in a round


The only part of  my original post that should be rewritten is the sentence with reference to parasitic ...  .   But I notice that a recent topic
 Which player in world football now reminds you of Latapy??
 is addressing the gist of the complaint. 
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Brownsugar on August 23, 2006, 07:01:43 AM
To the author of this post....

I have been wondering about getting a compliation of the man's best moments.....and I know the idea has been bandied about on this forum, so I hope it really comes to fruition....ah want de first copy  :).......all I can say is my memories of him are mostly from the Strike Squad days and whenever he played for the National team after that.....

I have no memories of him from his overseas exploits.....(as opposed to seeing Dwight all the time.....Man U vs. Bayern Munich 1999 Champions League final.....what a classic!!!....but I digress.... ;D)

I can also say dat I honestly cyar say I ever see de man play a bad ball....it amazing every touch was pure magic......So while I is ah Tobagonian and ah goh have a slight bias fuh Dwight...

De truth is de man is de greatest I ever see in a TnT juzzy   :beermug:  :beermug:....and speaking of juzzy....

Dey plan to retire dat # 10??.....ah find dey should......
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Mango Chow! on August 23, 2006, 01:44:01 PM
yes it was bradford city and it was not football reasons he did not get the contract, also jorge casagrande the brazillian coach got trails and scholaships for quite a few guys back in those days . to tell how trinidadians taught and still think today one guy who he got a trial with stoke city said he came back because all they did was play two touch football

  Thanks for that confirmation, Zuri, I had heard some sumour as to why he didn't get the contract but I wasn't concerned.  He is still a boss!!
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 23, 2006, 02:47:35 PM
Your suggestion that because you include ``for me’’ etc,  in your statement that that somehow makes it plausible or acceptable  is simply not true.  Is it possible to turn incredible statements into credible statements by simply putting ``For me’’ or  “in my opinion”  in the statement? In general the answer is no.  If a  person makes the  statement  `` For me 1 + 2 = 5,” then it is easy to reject that.  Likewise you might think that your statement is notsimilar because it might involve some judgment.  But performance is sport is quantifiable, and in fact with the clock and the numerous measures (assists, goals, touches of the ball),  it is easy to see  that some  statements are of the form `` For me 1 + 2 = 5.”  Is it possible to hide one’s bias or preference when talking about the best or great by including ``for me’’ etc. In general the answer is no. And that is also partly because the use and understanding of best and great in some ways contains a negation of ``for me’’ etc.  If a golf commentator says that David Duval is the best golfer of this generation because he made the lowest score in a round on the PGA tour. Then whether he adds ``for me’’ or not is irrelevant, his judgment is clearly questionable and his other statementsabout profs golfers could not really be taken as reliable.  And that is in spite of the fact that Duval does hold the record for the lowest in a round


The only part of  my original post that should be rewritten is the sentence with reference to parasitic ...  .   But I notice that a recent topic
 Which player in world football now reminds you of Latapy??
 is addressing the gist of the complaint. 


OK Storebay.   You made this statement right? 

Quote
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.

Well.....dat statement wuss dan 1 + 2 = 5.  In oddah words....with all due respect....yuh talkin shit!

How's dat fuh facts?!!

Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: berris on August 23, 2006, 03:23:31 PM

....
For me...Latas is the best footballer I ever see in a T&T uniform.  Make that in any Caribbean football uniform.  Make that in any CONCACAF region uniform.  Bar NONE.  Dwight Yorke is an excellent player....but footballer for footballer....FOR ME....He not in latas' league.
....
That statement destroys your credibility. 


How many have seen Latapy play as a club professional?   Again, like many others I also sense that Latapy is a very good player.  That said, everytime this topic comes up, there have not been any independent evidence/criteria for Latapy’s greatness; that is the talk and possible status always hinges (or threads ) on Yorke’s achievements, a sort of parasitic relationship. There are many other very good T&T footballers (for example Leonsen Lewis, Jameson, ) whose professional backgrounds are not dramatically different from Latapy’s, and who also  really performed for the country,  so  how come we don’t hear as much about those fellaz.


Because I state something you may not happen to agree with, it "destroy my credibility?"  Wha part of "FOR ME, and Latas is the best footballer I EVER SEE in a T&T uniform" you doh get?  Who is you to determine if my opinion or what I see is credible or not?

Haul yuh sanctimonious, insular ass wit dat shit.

Your suggestion that because you include ``for me’’ etc,  in your statement that that somehow makes it plausible or acceptable  is simply not true.  Is it possible to turn incredible statements into credible statements by simply putting ``For me’’ or  “in my opinion”  in the statement? In general the answer is no.  If a  person makes the  statement  `` For me 1 + 2 = 5,” then it is easy to reject that.  Likewise you might think that your statement is notsimilar because it might involve some judgment.  But performance is sport is quantifiable, and in fact with the clock and the numerous measures (assists, goals, touches of the ball),  it is easy to see  that some  statements are of the form `` For me 1 + 2 = 5.”  Is it possible to hide one’s bias or preference when talking about the best or great by including ``for me’’ etc. In general the answer is no. And that is also partly because the use and understanding of best and great in some ways contains a negation of ``for me’’ etc.  If a golf commentator says that David Duval is the best golfer of this generation because he made the lowest score in a round on the PGA tour. Then whether he adds ``for me’’ or not is irrelevant, his judgment is clearly questionable and his other statementsabout profs golfers could not really be taken as reliable.  And that is in spite of the fact that Duval does hold the record for the lowest in a round


The only part of  my original post that should be rewritten is the sentence with reference to parasitic ...  .   But I notice that a recent topic
 Which player in world football now reminds you of Latapy??
 is addressing the gist of the complaint. 

storebaylamebrainer...
de saying same shit different day doh even apply to this post ...this
tutu yuh post eh de same amount as before is way way much more...Yuh cud add up whatever yuh want,EVERY POST YUH MAKE  = SH!T SH!T AND MORE SH!T yuh shud change yuh name tuh latrinelimer ....
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Dutty on August 23, 2006, 07:21:04 PM
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storebaylamebrainer...
de saying same shit different day doh even apply to this post ...this
tutu yuh post eh de same amount as before is way way much more...Yuh cud add up whatever yuh want,EVERY POST YUH MAKE  = SH!T SH!T AND MORE SH!T yuh shud change yuh name tuh latrinelimer ....
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AH lorse count...dat is clash number 37 or 38??
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: berris on August 23, 2006, 10:27:46 PM
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storebaylamebrainer...
de saying same shit different day doh even apply to this post ...this
tutu yuh post eh de same amount as before is way way much more...Yuh cud add up whatever yuh want,EVERY POST YUH MAKE  = SH!T SH!T AND MORE SH!T yuh shud change yuh name tuh latrinelimer ....
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AH lorse count...dat is clash number 37 or 38??

 :rotfl: :rotfl: ......buh de man talking shit wha yuh want mey tuh say  ??
....39 ...40 ..
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: StoreBayLimer on August 24, 2006, 05:35:30 PM
Your suggestion that because you include ``for me’’ etc,  in your statement that that somehow makes it plausible or acceptable  is simply not true.  Is it possible to turn incredible statements into credible statements by simply putting ``For me’’ or  “in my opinion”  in the statement? In general the answer is no.  If a  person makes the  statement  `` For me 1 + 2 = 5,” then it is easy to reject that.  Likewise you might think that your statement is notsimilar because it might involve some judgment.  But performance is sport is quantifiable, and in fact with the clock and the numerous measures (assists, goals, touches of the ball),  it is easy to see  that some  statements are of the form `` For me 1 + 2 = 5.”  Is it possible to hide one’s bias or preference when talking about the best or great by including ``for me’’ etc. In general the answer is no. And that is also partly because the use and understanding of best and great in some ways contains a negation of ``for me’’ etc.  If a golf commentator says that David Duval is the best golfer of this generation because he made the lowest score in a round on the PGA tour. Then whether he adds ``for me’’ or not is irrelevant, his judgment is clearly questionable and his other statementsabout profs golfers could not really be taken as reliable.  And that is in spite of the fact that Duval does hold the record for the lowest in a round


The only part of  my original post that should be rewritten is the sentence with reference to parasitic ...  .   But I notice that a recent topic
 Which player in world football now reminds you of Latapy??
 is addressing the gist of the complaint. 


OK Storebay.   You made this statement right? 

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First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.

Well.....dat statement wuss dan 1 + 2 = 5.  In oddah words....with all due respect....yuh talkin shit!

How's dat fuh facts?!!



It would be more useful to point out why that criteria as one of the tests for greatness (in T&T football) is incorrect or irrelevant.  Can you do that? It would  help your case/cause and likeminded supporters are waiting for an answer.    Of course one can think of various hypothetical circumstances involving other leagues, but when one looks at the distribution of T&T players in the various leagues over the last 20 years, it is unlikely that the distribution will change significantly in the next 10 years.  Hence again, at this time, one can say that in order to be eligible for consideration of greatness in T&T football, the player must have played in the EPL.
 

Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: palos on August 24, 2006, 05:50:02 PM
It would be more useful to point out why that criteria as one of the tests for greatness (in T&T football) is incorrect or irrelevant.  Can you do that? It would  help your case/cause and likeminded supporters are waiting for an answer.    Of course one can think of various hypothetical circumstances involving other leagues, but when one looks at the distribution of T&T players in the various leagues over the last 20 years, it is unlikely that the distribution will change significantly in the next 10 years.  Hence again, at this time, one can say that in order to be eligible for consideration of greatness in T&T football, the player must have played in the EPL.

Let's agree to disagree on this topic.

Respeck
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: berris on August 24, 2006, 07:01:46 PM
Your suggestion that because you include ``for me’’ etc,  in your statement that that somehow makes it plausible or acceptable  is simply not true.  Is it possible to turn incredible statements into credible statements by simply putting ``For me’’ or  “in my opinion”  in the statement? In general the answer is no.  If a  person makes the  statement  `` For me 1 + 2 = 5,” then it is easy to reject that.  Likewise you might think that your statement is notsimilar because it might involve some judgment.  But performance is sport is quantifiable, and in fact with the clock and the numerous measures (assists, goals, touches of the ball),  it is easy to see  that some  statements are of the form `` For me 1 + 2 = 5.”  Is it possible to hide one’s bias or preference when talking about the best or great by including ``for me’’ etc. In general the answer is no. And that is also partly because the use and understanding of best and great in some ways contains a negation of ``for me’’ etc.  If a golf commentator says that David Duval is the best golfer of this generation because he made the lowest score in a round on the PGA tour. Then whether he adds ``for me’’ or not is irrelevant, his judgment is clearly questionable and his other statementsabout profs golfers could not really be taken as reliable.  And that is in spite of the fact that Duval does hold the record for the lowest in a round


The only part of  my original post that should be rewritten is the sentence with reference to parasitic ...  .   But I notice that a recent topic
 Which player in world football now reminds you of Latapy??
 is addressing the gist of the complaint. 


OK Storebay.   You made this statement right? 

Quote
First of all, any  player from the English speaking Caribbean who was not good enough to make it into the EPL cannot be considered to be a great player.

Well.....dat statement wuss dan 1 + 2 = 5.  In oddah words....with all due respect....yuh talkin shit!

How's dat fuh facts?!!



It would be more useful to point out why that criteria as one of the tests for greatness (in T&T football) is incorrect or irrelevant.  Can you do that? It would  help your case/cause and likeminded supporters are waiting for an answer.    Of course one can think of various hypothetical circumstances involving other leagues, but when one looks at the distribution of T&T players in the various leagues over the last 20 years, it is unlikely that the distribution will change significantly in the next 10 years.  Hence again, at this time, one can say that in order to be eligible for consideration of greatness in T&T football, the player must have played in the EPL.
 



more assness yuh talking .........you shud take Palos advice becuz your knowledge and vision of TnT football or football on de whole is very very limited..
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: dinho on August 25, 2006, 03:40:42 AM
i don't think this thread is about gauging success based on achievements but its about gauging the best player based on natural ability..

essien plays for the best team in the EPL but most ghanains might tell you abedi pele is the best player they had.. Because mido played for spurs and roma, do you think egyptians rate him as a better player than Hassan?? Who was a better Colombian player Asprilla or Valderrama?? But Valderamma ent play no ball outside...

This could apply to any sports.. Do you really think Lennox Lewis was the best boxer of the last decade???

You're missing the point... Latas is the most gifted player we ever produced, and by extension, the best player we've ever produced... Yorke himself could tell you that.. Yorke is the most successful player we've ever had...
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: Themanfriday on August 25, 2006, 03:57:31 AM
i don't think this thread is about gauging success based on achievements but its about gauging the best player based on natural ability..

essien plays for the best team in the EPL but most ghanains might tell you abedi pele is the best player they had.. Because mido played for spurs and roma, do you think egyptians rate him as a better player than Hassan?? Who was a better Colombian player Asprilla or Valderrama?? But Valderamma ent play no ball outside...

This could apply to any sports.. Do you really think Lennox Lewis was the best boxer of the last decade???

You're missing the point... Latas is the most gifted player we ever produced, and by extension, the best player we've ever produced... Yorke himself could tell you that.. Yorke is the most successful player we've ever had...

AGREED
Title: Re: The truth about Latas please...
Post by: sprog on August 25, 2006, 10:57:31 AM
I think the mere fact that whenever kudos are being given to latas Dwight's name always pops up and for that matter whenever kudos are being given to any local footballer simply because Dwight is definitely the greatest t&t footballer, no debate. I think the on field comparisons are unfair simply because they played different positions and even with positions they are different types of players. Latapy for all the ability that he has apparently never caught the eyes of those in really high places, i mean they can never be any comparisons with the leagues in Portugal and Scotland to the EPL, after the failed wc campaign for italia 90, how is it that Yorke caught the eye to go on to play in the EPL given that he only made substitute appearances over Latapy who had much more playing time? For those who dont know Yorke was an outstanding dribbler and has tremendous ball handling capabilities, these things have been removed from his game over the years to suit the roles he was given. Manchester did not want a dribbler they wanted somone to put the ball in the back of the net with one or two touches, Yorke was that man, and for me he would always be the MAN.
Title: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: E-man on January 13, 2007, 02:00:10 PM
Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
By: stv.tv


13 Jan 2007

Rangers target Alan Gow's last-minute goal delivered victory for Falkirk in their Bank of Scotland Premier League clash at home to Dunfermline.
 
Torrential weather conditions dogged the match as driving wind and rain made it almost impossible to play measured football.
 
The result leaves the Pars nine points adrift of St Mirren at the foot of the SPL table and they look doomed to relegation.
 
Falkirk boss John Hughes gave a debut to on-loan Manchester City goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel, the son of Manchester United and Denmark legend Peter, as Jeroen Lambers dropped to the bench.
 
Suspended duo Jim Hamilton and Phil McGuire both dropped out of the Pars side that beat Rangers last week with Greg Shields and new signing from Shelbourne Bobby Ryan both coming in.
 
The players struggled to cope with the atrocious weather conditions in the early stages of the match, with the ball proving difficult to control.
 
The Pars went close when a free-kick from the left by Owen Morrison was met with a glancing header by Shields which drifted wide.
 
On-loan Celtic player James O'Brien found space in the box in the sixth minute for the visitors but skewed a left-footed shot wide.
 
The Bairns went close after 20 minutes when Russell Latapy's free-kick broke to Kenny Milne whose goal-bound shot was blocked by the head of team-mate Gow and then cleared to safety.
 
The hosts went close again just a minute later after good work from Gow and Vitor Lima on the left saw the latter cut inside, but his left-footed effort was headed behind for a corner.
 
Falkirk came close again when Latapy threaded a ball into the box for Gow who flicked it into the path of Liam Craig.
 
From the just a few yards wide, the midfielder stabbed the ball wide.
 
Schmeichel was finally called into action on the stroke of half-time as he spread himself brilliantly to deny former Scotland striker Stevie Crawford who had been sent clear.
 
A long ball forward from Darren Barr in the 50th minute sent Craig clear on goal, but the strong wind blew the ball away from the player and Pars goalkeeper Roddy McKenzie cleared.
 
Three minutes later good work from Patrick Cregg and Latapy on the right created another chance.
 
A snap shot from Trinidad and Tobago star Latapy from inside the box was well held by McKenzie.
 
The hosts went close again when a Gow free-kick from the right after 63 minutes almost found Craig at the far post, but the midfielder was unable to connect from a few yards out.
 
An opener looked inevitable when Cregg sent Gow clear on the right of the box in 67 minutes, but the striker overhit a square ball for Lima who was free in front of goal.
 
The visitors were still a threat on the break and went close in 77 minutes when O'Brien knocked a ball into the path of Stephen Simmons but the midfielder sliced a right foot effort wide.
 
Craig threatened for the hosts three minutes later as he beat two men on the left and cut inside but lashed a right-footed effort well wide.
 
The winner came when Craig sent Gow clear on the left side of the box in the 90th minute and the striker's shot slipped under the body of McKenzie.
 
Falkirk will be hoping it is not a farewell goal, as Rangers continue in their efforts to land the in-form Bairns favourite.
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: trinbago on January 13, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
The magician at work again!
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: Themanfriday on January 14, 2007, 06:10:26 AM
NICE  ;)
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: Brej on January 14, 2007, 08:29:53 AM
well done falkirk
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: weary1969 on January 14, 2007, 04:25:38 PM
Keep at it Latas keep makin we smile
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: SUPA on January 14, 2007, 11:32:41 PM
Dat is why ah cah put nothing else as meh avatar, he is we lil magician. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Re: Falkirk 1 Dunfermline 0
Post by: jai john on January 15, 2007, 07:08:30 AM
Get on latas ! I wonder if folks realise that latas have plenty teenagers , ( nationals ) on de bench in dey own country. Keep it coming Latas Only Beenie could stop you !
Title: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Flex on May 01, 2008, 05:57:51 AM
Ex-Hibs star Latapy lauded as golden import.
By: David Hardie (Scotsman).


Ex-Hibs stars today reacted with delight as it was revealed former team-mate Russell Latapy has been listed among the top 50 greatest foreign players of all-time in British football.

The little midfield magician, still playing for Falkirk as he approaches his 40th birthday, comes in at No.49 in the exclusive club drawn up by influential football magazine FourFourTwo.

And that places him ahead of former Easter Road star Franck Sauzee, the legendary French ace, who was listed at No.62 with countryman Eric Cantona topping the pile, just ahead of Dennis Bergkamp, Thierry Henry and Henrik Larsson.

Although he had the likes of Boavista and Porto on his CV, Latapy was a virtual unknown in Britain when then Hibs star Tony Rougier happened to mention to boss Alex McLeish he had a pal from Trinidad and Tobago who was looking for a new club.

Five minutes in a closed-doors match was enough to convince McLeish, and his judgment was vindicated as Latapy quickly became an idol among the Hibs support and a player coveted by every other SPL club.

Today former team-mate Stuart Lovell agreed with FourFour Two's assessment, ranking Latapy as one of the greatest players he has ever played with or against, while Hibs boss Mixu Paatelainen admitted he believes the midfield genius should have been placed even higher.

Lovell recalled the day almost ten years ago when he first heard Latapy's name mentioned at Easter Road. He said: "I remember asking some a few of the boys who played at Brechin that night what they thought and they said he was 'something special'.

"Call me cynical, but at that point I thought I'd make my own judgment. However, the boys were proved to be spot-on as we know all too well. When people ask me who were the best players I played with or against, Russell is right up there.

"Russell is a player with any amount of ability and the fact he is still able to do it in his late 30s is the sign of a very good player, only they can still make a contribution at that age.

"Any great player can kill the ball stone dead with one touch. That's the one common denominator they all have. Some are fast, some are strong, some are good athletes, but they all have one thing a great first touch. Russell always seemed as if he had the ball on a piece of string."

If many questioned Latapy's ability to adapt to the Scottish game given his diminutive frame, he quickly won himself a legion of fans, not only within Easter Road but the entire Scottish game as he picked up the First Division player of the year award in his first season as he helped steer Hibs back into the SPL.

And he continued to do so as he operated at the highest level. Lovell said: "You always worry how guys from warmer climes are going to cope with a Scottish winter, but I don't think you could ever call Russell a fair-weather player.

"I wouldn't say he was the bravest in the world, he'd turn up for training wrapped up complete with hat and gloves, but he had some of his best games for us in atrocious conditions.

"While the rest of us were slipping and sliding about Russell's balance was such there were times you could hardly see a speck of mud on his shorts."

As Latapy built himself a new army of fans in Scotland, it was a trip to Trinidad and Tobago during the winter break of 2000 which brought it home to Lovell and his team-mates the popularity of the little man from the Caribbean.

The former Australian internationalist said: "Russell was, and still is, a modest guy. I remember asking him on the way out there if anyone would bother to turn up to see us.

"He just gave me a wink and a smile and said 'one or two'. When we arrived we were whisked off to the VIP lounge, there was a steel band, they'd made up a new song about him it was literally the red carpet treatment.

"We had security, purely to allow Russell the chance to get about without being mobbed it was amazing. Speaking to a few of the locals, they were just stunned to see him. It was the sort of reaction you see David Beckham getting.

"Then Brian Lara, a world superstar in his sport of cricket, joined us for a night out. He had flown in from New Zealand to make sure he met up with his old pal. It was a real eye-opener."

While Sauzee is still regarded as "Le God" by many Hibs fans, Lovell believes the fact he trails his former team-mate in the FourFourTwo list of greats is probably purely down to the fact Latapy has been playing in Scotland for ten years whereas the French ace spent less time in our game.

He said: "Franck was a wonderful player. He and Russell were the heart and soul of our team. They were both phenomenal players and great guys as well. The rest of us knew we were a far better team with the two of them than without them."

Lovell, however, admitted he'd place Latapy above Sauzee saying: "I remember back then in Trinidad, Mixu, John Hughes and Andy Watson (McLeish's assistant] were having a drink one night after a match I recall it well because it was January 9, my birthday and Andy asked us if we could have either Franck or Russell in the team which would it be. He was a bit surprised when the three of us all said Russell. Andy said he couldn't believe it, that Franck had done this, that and the other in the game.

"But I felt it was harder to be that creative player, someone who was incredibly clever at finding space and capable of little subtle things to change a game.

"When he played to his best he was nearly untouchable and, I think, a lot of opposition players realised that."

Latapy, of course, enjoyed his life as much away from the pitch, a night out with his buddy Dwight Yorke from Manchester United in Edinburgh just before a Capital derby signalling the end of his Hibs career.

But then Rangers boss Dick Advocaat, a huge admirer of his skills, stepped in to sign him before Latapy moved on to Dundee United and now Falkirk, where he combines playing with coaching; his eyes now firmly set on a move into management.

Lovell said: "I think that's just part of Russell's make up. It keeps him relaxed and I believe it has helped keep him in football for such a long time.

"No matter what, you could always tell football was far more than a job to him."

Paatelainen, left, insisting Latapy should be been placed higher than 49th, said: "Russell was a quality player so I am not surprised he has made this list. Perhaps it says something about how people in this country tend to concentrate only on our game that virtually no-one had heard of Russell before he signed for us.

"But he was a big addition to our squad quick, skilful, and, although not the biggest player, he was very strong, rode tackles well and everyone soon realised what a great player he was."
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on May 01, 2008, 06:32:15 AM
 I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Big Magician on May 01, 2008, 06:48:25 AM
long live the king.....congrats to the tnt boys...
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: weary1969 on May 01, 2008, 06:50:25 AM
Some nice news 2 start d day
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Sando on May 01, 2008, 06:53:46 AM
Where is Yorke name though ?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Filho on May 01, 2008, 06:57:10 AM
dat open my eyes. two boys from T&T. Yorke is not much of a surprise, but to see Latas there is amazing. I never thought he got that kind of recognition. nice nice read
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Sando on May 01, 2008, 06:59:15 AM
Can anoyone post the list of the 50 players...
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 01, 2008, 07:27:09 AM
Very proud....
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Tallman on May 01, 2008, 07:32:29 AM
Can anoyone post the list of the 50 players...
1. Eric Cantona
2. Dennis Bergkamp
3. Thierry Henry
4. Henrik Larrson
5. Gianfranco Zola
6. Peter Schmiechel
7. Ossie Ardiles
8. Cristiano Ronaldo
9. Jurgen Klinsmann
10. Patrick Vieira
11. Dwight Yorke
12. Ruud Gullit
13. Jaap Stam
14. Eddie Firmani
15. Paolo Di Canio
16. George Robledo
17. Bruce Grobelaar
18. Ruud Van Nistelrooy
19. Robert Pires
20. Brian Laudrup
21. Didier Drogba
22. Claude Makelele
23. David Ginola
24. Andrei Kanchelskis
25. Marcel Desailly
26. Bert Trautmann
27. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
28. Arnold Muhren
29. Frans Thijssen
30. Jan Mlby
31. Juninho
32. Gianluca Vialli
33. Freddie Ljungberg
34. Ole Gunnar Solskjr
35. Michael Essien
36. Clyde Best
37. Nicolas Anelka
38. Georgi Kinkladze
39. Brad Freidel
40. Petr Cech
41. Lubomir Moravcik
42. Anders Limpar
43. Jay Jay Okocha
44. Roy Wegerle
45. Sami Hyypi
46. Cesc Fabregas
47. Youri Djorkaeff
48. Kazimierz Deyna
49. Russell Latapy
50. Arthur Wharton
51. Marc Overmars
52. Alexi Mikhailichenko
53. Roland Nilsson
54. Edwin Van Der Sar
55. Emmanuel Petit
56. Johnny Hubbard
57. Dietmar Hamann
58. Ronny Johnsen
59. Eidur Gudjohnsen
60. Dimitar Berbatov
61. Carlo Cudicini
62. Frank Sauzee
63. Igor Stimac
64. Ricky Villa
65. Mark Viduka
66. Roberto Di Matteo
67. Ivan Golac
68. Carig Johnston
69. Joe Marston
70. Henning Berg
71. Jussi Jskelinen
72. Slaven Bilic
73. Albert Johanssen
74. Shaun Goater
75. Gustavo Poyet
76. Harry Kewell
77. Franck Leboeuf
78. Benito Carbone
79. Claudio Caniggia
80. Uwe Rosler
81. Mark Bosnich
82. Lucas Radebe
83. Aljosa Asanovic
84. Tore Andre Flo
85. Pierre Van Hooijdonk
86. Attilio Lombardo
87. Dan Petrescu
88. Jesper Olsen
89. Antti Niemi
90. Tony Yeboah
91. Nwankwo Kanu
92. Tim Cahill
93. Shunsuke Nakamura
94. Nolberto Solano
95. Paulo Wanchope
96. Aiyegbeni Yakubu
97. Jan Age Fjortoft
98. Phillipe Albert
99. John Harkes
100. Kasey Keller
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dinho on May 01, 2008, 07:37:47 AM
This kinda news does warm de heart..

I will have to source a copy of this magazine..

But one name on this list nearly make me choke on meh cereal:

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74. Shaun Goater
??? ??? ???

imagine they have that before man like Kanu, Yeboah, Nakamura and Kewell
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dumpalewie on May 01, 2008, 07:42:20 AM
Any Jamaicans ??? ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Tallman on May 01, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
But one name on this list nearly make me choke on meh cereal:

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74. Shaun Goater
??? ??? ???

imagine they have that before man like Kanu, Yeboah, Nakamura and Kewell
Check out Goater's career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Goater), and den perform de Heimlich maneuver ;D.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 01, 2008, 08:05:44 AM
Any Jamaicans ??? ;D

Of course Not...Read the topic..Foreign players... They cant make the list as they are already English ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 01, 2008, 08:07:36 AM
dat open my eyes. two boys from T&T. Yorke is not much of a surprise, but to see Latas there is amazing. I never thought he got that kind of recognition. nice nice read
A Scottish fella tell me he's a god over there.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 01, 2008, 08:12:48 AM
Shaun Goater is a legend for Man City and several other clubs...the man made an impact and he around longtime.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 01, 2008, 08:15:00 AM
I find this list actually realistic...I glad Yorke get put over men like Van Nisterooy, because of his longevity. Doh agree with Stam being so close to him on the list tho cause Yorke impact was wider than just ManU.

Anybody could tell me who else besides Larsson ahead of Latas despite playing primarily in the Scottish leagues?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on May 01, 2008, 08:19:13 AM
Any Jamaicans ??? ;D

Of course Not...Read the topic..Foreign players... They cant make the list as they are already English ;D

Ouch!!! :devil:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: superoli on May 01, 2008, 08:29:33 AM
we went out with Latapy in Falkirk and the man is like a Beckham up there
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 01, 2008, 09:39:06 AM
Ah see Mark Bosnic made the top 100...I wonder how he and Yorke would choose to celebrate the recognition of their joint success?  ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: WestCoast on May 01, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
Nice goin TnT fellas

I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.
Is there similar ratings table out of Portigal

Any Jamaicans ??? ;D
Of course Not...Read the topic..Foreign players... They cant make the list as they are already English ;D
I goin and say it before de Big Man reach
De Britz De Britz
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Midknight on May 01, 2008, 10:08:47 AM
nice...glad to see the little Magician getting his due

one thing about a list like this though, men who stay with one club for a length of time, like Goater, will always be in front of journeymen because they had time to build up a fan base. That does qualify in yuh 'legacy'
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 01, 2008, 10:25:11 AM
Nuff respect to the little magician, well deserved!!!  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Big Magician on May 01, 2008, 12:05:14 PM
allyuh would not believe how many people from Scotland I met in Germany 06...they come to see the magician with latas shirts..Hibs, Falkirk..de works...all kinds 60 yr old scot woman and ting...when ah show dem my Latapy 10 tattoo, they freak out...take picture of it and ting..

don leo boy...leh we eh go dey nah....f#ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kiffysmooth on May 01, 2008, 12:27:05 PM
I find Latas should ah be in de top 5....and is not no bias ting.....de man is pure brilliance
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: SUPA on May 01, 2008, 12:42:22 PM
allyuh would not believe how many people from Scotland I met in Germany 06...they come to see the magician with latas shirts..Hibs, Falkirk..de works...all kinds 60 yr old scot woman and ting...when ah show dem my Latapy 10 tattoo, they freak out...take picture of it and ting..

don leo boy...leh we eh go dey nah....f#ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Yuh make feel like ah lostsome points dey BM. I'm always thinking dat I'm de biggest Latapy fan here, but damn yuh have ah Latapy 10 tattoo, you serious meh son, large up :beermug:.

Any way Latapy congrats meh boss, like many other people here, we all know yuh is ah boss and you will remain de boss. However, I must admit, wid de way how dey seem never to acknowledge we lil island players some times, I'm very surprised dat dey did acknowledge you. Congrats again and nuff blessings to you and your family.

Eh fool, chupidy, azz hole, every day we people on de world chart for some reason or de other. Yes, de people from dat lil island called T&T. Yuh damn azz, yuh want tuh come on we forum and dis me and my people from T&T ??? ??? ???. In case you smoking crack and yuh forget let meh remind yuh nah. HIGHLY BLESSED.



  Trinidad & Tobago - we are de best.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: andre samuel on May 01, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
allyuh would not believe how many people from Scotland I met in Germany 06...they come to see the magician with latas shirts..Hibs, Falkirk..de works...all kinds 60 yr old scot woman and ting...when ah show dem my Latapy 10 tattoo, they freak out...take picture of it and ting..

don leo boy...leh we eh go dey nah....f#ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I know exactly whayt u talking about.  I met an elderly couple in Munich who saw me in my trini gear and told me that they came here just to see latas in the world cup.  The husband was telling me that he never gets any attention whenever his wife is starring at the Telly looking at the little magician.

Then she jumped in and said that Latas is her REAL husband.......lol

ah love it!!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Grande on May 01, 2008, 03:18:52 PM
allyuh would not believe how many people from Scotland I met in Germany 06...they come to see the magician with latas shirts..Hibs, Falkirk..de works...all kinds 60 yr old scot woman and ting...when ah show dem my Latapy 10 tattoo, they freak out...take picture of it and ting..

don leo boy...leh we eh go dey nah....f#ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Watch nah I was talking to this Ghananian feller on the subway and we turn to football and WC '06...I probably only know about 3 players on his national side but as soon as he hear T&T he ask me immediately who was the dreadlock player dat come on jess so and start to 'deke' through everybody and lift up the whole T&T side vs Paraguay..'instant impact' he say..

First when I hear dreadlocks I think Sancho but yuh know it can't be he

dat 20 mins wasn't forgettable at all....long live the king for real

L A T A P Y
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Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: capodetutticapi on May 01, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
maybe KJ and carlos go make de list in de future too.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: ckhan on May 01, 2008, 04:32:34 PM
Another reason to get meh no. 10 autograph!!!! Congrats Latas and to Yorkie as well  :beermug: (stag) by 6
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Babalawo on May 01, 2008, 04:40:31 PM
Where is Yorke name though ?
Yorke is there but in or off, Its a magazine, that means who ever works there come up with that list. Doesn;t mean that its true. People magazine come up with the top 100 most beautiful people of world. I dont see my gf on that list
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Dutty on May 01, 2008, 05:52:46 PM
Where is Yorke name though ?
  People magazine come up with the top 100 most beautiful people of world. I dont see my gf on that list

For you to type that ..could ONLY mean yuh gyul readin over yuh shoulder while yuh was typin
Yuh fraid she bad ent?


Long Live Latas  :beermug:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Phensic on May 01, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.

I wonder how much higher he would have gone if Alex Mc hadn't moved to rangers!
Seems like every time Latas got into a top flight club was always a manager that that
 ended his potential sucess.

My 2-cents
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Ngozi on May 01, 2008, 06:16:50 PM
My boy latas ...i proud as punch .....latasssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 01, 2008, 06:35:42 PM
I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.

I wonder how much higher he would have gone if Alex Mc hadn't moved to rangers!
Seems like every time Latas got into a top flight club was always a manager that that
 ended his potential sucess.

My 2-cents


Yuh mean de smoking, drinking and partying didn't have anything tuh do with it?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 01, 2008, 07:22:05 PM
I saw some men at the bar at the Hilton in Tobago just before the Bahrain game in full kilt and Latapy juzzys....and den ah see dem in de Hilton in Trini too de day ah de game....talk bout full support papa!!....

Long live Yorkie....Long live Latas!!.... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :applause: :applause: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Tallman on May 01, 2008, 07:30:42 PM
I saw some men at the bar at the Hilton in Tobago just before the Bahrain game in full kilt and Latapy juzzys....and den ah see dem in de Hilton in Trini too de day ah de game....talk bout full support papa!!....

It was dese fellas?

(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3449)
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Cocorite on May 01, 2008, 07:35:40 PM
Its about time. . . . . .

An' ah still waiting on a full production video of the magician's football history to cherish.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kaliman2006 on May 01, 2008, 08:55:23 PM
Any Jamaicans ??? ;D

Of course Not...Read the topic..Foreign players... They cant make the list as they are already English ;D

Leh we not not raise up dat hornet's nest again nah! ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: redtrinigirl on May 02, 2008, 05:25:14 AM
B&S yuh sig pic make meh buss out laughing hard in de people place. Why allyuh bad so?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2008, 07:32:04 AM
B&S yuh sig pic make meh buss out laughing hard in de people place. Why allyuh bad so? :rotfl:

A partner of mine had a t-shirt with that same print like a year or so back, wore it in a bar and get real scorned...not exactly a chick pick up t-shirt, but funny nevertheless.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 02, 2008, 07:36:18 AM
It possible Tallman....dey fit the physical description of the guys I saw....
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 02, 2008, 10:06:42 AM
B&S yuh sig pic make meh buss out laughing hard in de people place. Why allyuh bad so? :rotfl:
Who me?


What I do? 


 :D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Cocorite on May 02, 2008, 07:50:25 PM
Tallman:

Dah pic musta been taken in Bahrain. 'Cause de fella in d black shorts is d fella wuo Ato point to an say we Trini's need tuh be glad we have rythm. LOL  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ent??
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Midknight on May 02, 2008, 08:21:12 PM
I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.

I wonder how much higher he would have gone if Alex Mc hadn't moved to rangers!
Seems like every time Latas got into a top flight club was always a manager that that
 ended his potential sucess.

My 2-cents


Yuh mean de smoking, drinking and partying didn't have anything tuh do with it?

BnS...How yuh so dread? Doh let reality spoil the overflowing patriotism in the thread nah man...You ent see how nice people feeling basking in the Magician achievement ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 02, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
BnS...How yuh so dread? Doh let reality spoil the overflowing patriotism in the thread nah man...You ent see how nice people feeling basking in the Magician achievement ;D

Oh gawd allyuh ease mih up nah...ah duz fuhget whey ah is sumtimes.  :D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: vb on May 03, 2008, 11:38:58 AM
I wonder how much higher he would be if he started and stayed in Britain instead of Portugal cause Yorkie at #11. Nice to see that legacy being recognized.

I wonder how much higher he would have gone if Alex Mc hadn't moved to rangers!
My 2-cents


I is wonder the same ting. Ah know why Alex didn't like him bu he made up his mind the moment he came over to Rangers. He coulda give the man a chance. Imagine a man of Latas talent cah find room in the overall 22 of the squad. He coulda make dem bawl ....oh well. He never once complained, took it like a man. And maybe that's because he was culpable to some degree. :-(

VB
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 03, 2008, 03:49:47 PM
Anybody could tell me what is the cover date or cover feature of the issue?

I saw April in stores now but the article isn't featured.

Really want to pick this up.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
I was real happy and proud to see Latas & Dwight name on that list. But I did not really understand it too well. In the end I shrug meh shoulders and say they talking about their performance in the Premier League & British football, not the quality of the players per say. Because certainly man like Weah & Guillet IMHO were better players than Cantona and most in the top 10 for that matter. However, in the Premier Cantona, Bergkam etc make mass
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Grande on May 03, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
Anybody could tell me what is the cover date or cover feature of the issue?

I saw April in stores now but the article isn't featured.

Really want to pick this up.

Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 04, 2008, 02:54:44 AM
Anybody could tell me what is the cover date or cover feature of the issue?

I saw April in stores now but the article isn't featured.

Really want to pick this up.

Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Thank you sir.

Glad I haven't missed it. Isaw the World Soccer with JW on the cover when I was there too. Didn't even cross my mind to pick it up.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Filho on May 04, 2008, 06:39:42 AM
I was real happy and proud to see Latas & Dwight name on that list. But I did not really understand it too well. In the end I shrug meh shoulders and say they talking about their performance in the Premier League & British football, not the quality of the players per say. Because certainly man like Weah & Guillet IMHO were better players than Cantona and most in the top 10 for that matter. However, in the Premier Cantona, Bergkam etc make mass

yeah. i believe it's based on how well you actually played and for how long you played well, solely in Britain. so a man like Sheva who light it up elsewhere, but look mediocre in Britain would not make it. but a man who was mediocre outside Britain but light it up in Britain would qualify.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 04, 2008, 07:08:30 AM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: WestCoast on May 04, 2008, 07:18:37 AM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

arm....................aaaahhh....................naaah
I cyar bring myself to say it :devil: :devil:

i know you on kicks eh ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Observer on May 04, 2008, 12:54:47 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

arm....................aaaahhh....................naaah
I cyar bring myself to say it :devil: :devil:

i know you on kicks eh ;D

Yuh notice that too  :rotfl: Lard! ah was on the floor
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Zeppo on May 04, 2008, 03:17:01 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 04, 2008, 03:31:48 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)


  They're just being polite. None of them belong there!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2008, 03:42:32 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

 ;D ;D

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Toppa on May 04, 2008, 03:54:16 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)


They're just being polite. None of them belong there!

lol
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Brownsugar on May 04, 2008, 04:02:18 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)

WHO CARES??!!!.....

Zeppo it have ah US Soccer fan site and forum like this one??....If so go back there and stay dey nah....ssssttteeeuuuuppppssss!!!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Toppa on May 04, 2008, 04:20:52 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)

WHO CARES??!!!.....

Zeppo it have ah US Soccer fan site and forum like this one??....If so go back there and stay dey nah....ssssttteeeuuuuppppssss!!!

Yup...it's www.bigsoccer.com
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 04, 2008, 04:29:46 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)


WHO CARES??!!!.....

Zeppo it have ah US Soccer fan site and forum like this one??....If so go back there and stay dey nah....ssssttteeeuuuuppppssss!!!

 Nutting wrong wit 'im posting on "we" forum, man, is a free country. Besides, once yuh have us passport, yuh doh need visay to go noway (except, maybe most middle eastern territories outside israel).
But he co-sign on some subjective survey that is completely skewed as far as the us players are concerned:
kasey keller is s$~t! john harkes is s$~t! roy wegerle is s$~t! (and polyunsaturated, pretoria-born, apartheid-raised, South African s$~t, to boot!) and Brad Freidel?.......well.......arm......at least ah hear he is a cool fella.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: vb on May 04, 2008, 04:31:13 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...


Boy ah was looking hard for a smiley face on yoru post.

Damn!! A "Dave Jenny" moment anyone?  ;D

VB
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Sando prince on May 04, 2008, 04:31:55 PM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)
Zeppo instead of Congratulating Latapy you listed the four U.S players on the list :-\
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 04, 2008, 08:34:11 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2008, 08:48:07 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.

Spidey yuh putting yourself up for a DaveJenny award nomination right here...

B & S was making a joke (I believe).

Grande spoke of a collage (a collection of photos put in one frame).....and Bakes was just doing a play on words.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 04, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
Nah man...u need to go and read that DaveJenny again coz it have no way my poor eyesight could ever rank with not knowing what sober means  ;D
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 04, 2008, 08:54:59 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.

Spidey yuh putting yourself up for a DaveJenny award nomination right here...

B & S was making a joke (I believe).

Grande spoke of a collage (a collection of photos put in one frame).....and Bakes was just doing a play on words.


VB juss prefer ah put smiley or type in white or sumting tuh make it easy fuh de slower forumites.

steups
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Filho on May 04, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.

Oh gorm spidey..how yuh let Bakes ketch yuh so :devil:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 04, 2008, 08:59:49 PM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.

Oh gorm spidey..how yuh let Bakes ketch yuh so :devil:

Good thing I in de states yes.... :rotfl:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: vb on May 05, 2008, 03:13:48 AM
Is the May issue. Cover feature is for the article self...in big and bold there is "50 greatest foreign players" and there are images of a few of them in a collage. Also featured on the cover if I remember correctly is interviews with Platini and Nani

Right there yuh know dat article is nonsense 'cuz Dwight never went no collage...

Allyuh men in ths states too long.
College and Secondary School hold the same rank in the UK as it does in Trinidad and Tobago. Just cause Signal Hill wasn't a 7 year school doh mean that it cah be interpreted as a ''college'' in the UK.

In fact, as far as I know, Dwight win the COLLEGES league and the InterCOL with Signal Hill in '87 and '88, not the SSFL cause the name didn change yet.

Oh gorm spidey..how yuh let Bakes ketch yuh so :devil:

You sure he ketch anybody or he just get ketch heself.

If you don't qualify those statements with a smiley face of some kind of avtar/quotatioin, you leave yourself wide open.

It can be a rather 'sobering' experience :-)

Peace,
VB
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2008, 06:09:43 AM
U.S. players on the list

39. Brad Friedel, USA (Liverpool, Blackburn)

44. Roy Wegerle, USA (Chelsea, Luton, Queens P.R., Blackburn, Coventry)

99. John Harkes, USA (Sheff. W., Derby, W. Ham, Nottingh.)

100. Kasey Keller, USA (Millwall, Leicester, Tottenh., Southampton, Fulham)
Zeppo instead of Congratulating Latapy you listed the four U.S players on the list :-\

Shocking!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2008, 06:17:16 AM
I was real happy and proud to see Latas & Dwight name on that list. But I did not really understand it too well. In the end I shrug meh shoulders and say they talking about their performance in the Premier League & British football, not the quality of the players per say. Because certainly man like Weah & Guillet IMHO were better players than Cantona and most in the top 10 for that matter. However, in the Premier Cantona, Bergkam etc make mass

yeah. i believe it's based on how well you actually played and for how long you played well, solely in Britain. so a man like Sheva who light it up elsewhere, but look mediocre in Britain would not make it. but a man who was mediocre outside Britain but light it up in Britain would qualify.

'Impact' seems to be a function of the listing more than sheer longevity in the league. Cantona's stint was brief but ...de men have explanatory notes that make for an intriguing read ... and which no doubt explain some of the subjectivity.

De sections that are real interesting are the ones on those who were anticipated to light up de league and didn't and those who left to light up elsewhere but who may have been equally as good if they stayed.

Does anyone know what the total # of foreign players figure is?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 05, 2008, 06:25:12 AM
Anybody know how many players who only play in Scotland higher than Latas on the list?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 05, 2008, 06:39:18 AM
Anybody know how many players who only play in Scotland higher than Latas on the list?

Just off the top of my head, don't know if I've missed any.

4. Henrik Larrson
15. Paolo Di Canio - Made his name in Scotland before coming to England
20. Brian Laudrup
24. Andrei Kanchelskis - Made his name in England but mashed up for Rangers when he went there
41. Lubomir Moravcik

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 05, 2008, 06:57:18 AM
Anybody know how many players who only play in Scotland higher than Latas on the list?

Just off the top of my head, don't know if I've missed any.

4. Henrik Larrson
15. Paolo Di Canio - Made his name in Scotland before coming to England
20. Brian Laudrup
24. Andrei Kanchelskis - Made his name in England but mashed up for Rangers when he went there
41. Lubomir Moravcik

...Think he meant played in Scotland only
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 05, 2008, 07:42:00 AM
Anybody know how many players who only play in Scotland higher than Latas on the list?

Just off the top of my head, don't know if I've missed any.

4. Henrik Larrson
15. Paolo Di Canio - Made his name in Scotland before coming to England
20. Brian Laudrup
24. Andrei Kanchelskis - Made his name in England but mashed up for Rangers when he went there
41. Lubomir Moravcik

...Think he meant played in Scotland only

Understood and they are listed there. Those that played in Scotland as well as England have the qualifiers.

None for Larsson because I don't think 6 weeks at United at the tail end of his career really count.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 05, 2008, 08:46:49 AM
Well since i bias, i will say only Larsson and Lubo cause Laudrup  and Kanchelskis were household names before they went to Rangers and Di Canio became big outside of Lazio afterwards.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 05, 2008, 10:13:53 AM
You sure he ketch anybody or he just get ketch heself.

If you don't qualify those statements with a smiley face of some kind of avtar/quotatioin, you leave yourself wide open.

It can be a rather 'sobering' experience :-)

Peace,
VB

Is that a genuinely dotish question...or you juss playing dotish because it suits yuh fancy?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 05, 2008, 10:15:49 AM
Well since i bias, i will say only Larsson and Lubo cause Laudrup and Kanchelskis were household names before they went to Rangers and Di Canio became big outside of Lazio afterwards.

Pity Larsson didn't get to shine on a bigger professional stage than Scotland...even in his brief stint with United his impact was palpable.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 05, 2008, 10:57:54 AM
Well since i bias, i will say only Larsson and Lubo cause Laudrup and Kanchelskis were household names before they went to Rangers and Di Canio became big outside of Lazio afterwards.

Pity Larsson didn't get to shine on a bigger professional stage than Scotland...even in his brief stint with United his impact was palpable.

Barcelona?

Won the CL
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Peong on May 05, 2008, 11:03:43 AM
.....set up 2 goals in the final.....
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: JDB on May 05, 2008, 11:16:41 AM
.....set up 2 goals in the final.....

Yep, on the big stage with Dinho, Deco, Henry and Eto'o Larsson was the man
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Bakes on May 05, 2008, 11:45:06 AM
.....set up 2 goals in the final.....

Yep, on the big stage with Dinho, Deco, Henry and Eto'o Larsson was the man

Well dat is true he did have the couple years at Barca and he did shine fuh dem....but dat even was at the end of his career.  I still get the sense that the relative obscurity of Scotland leaves him underappreciated by most.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
So any thoughts on de XVI Hagi call in the same 4-4-2 edition?

Fuh men who eh see a copy yet or for those who eh see it in de 'back' after de ads ...

Taffarel

Jorginho
Baresi
Hierro
Maldini

Guardiola

with Figo on his right and Zizou on his left ... Guardiola playing in front of the D to break up attacks and win balls

Maradona in front of dem three

Van Basten and Gullit up front

On de bench:

Schmeichel
Popescu
Redondo
Romario
and Giggs
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dinho on May 05, 2008, 01:59:41 PM
So any thoughts on de XVI Hagi call in the same 4-4-2 edition?

Fuh men who eh see a copy yet or for those who eh see it in de 'back' after de ads ...

Taffarel

Jorginho
Baresi
Hierro
Maldini

Guardiola

with Figo on his right and Zizou on his left ... Guardiola playing in front of the D to breal up attacks and win balls

Maradona in front of dem three

Van Basten and Gullit up front

On de bench:

Schmeichel
Popescu
Redondo
Romario
and Giggs

my thoughts is that it seems a very barcelona flavored XVI...

and schmeichel is miles better than taffarel. I even taking man like Casillas, Pagliuca and Kahn in front of he.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2008, 02:01:25 PM
Hagi describes Taffarel as technically better than Schmeichel. 
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dinho on May 05, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
The King himself has just come on to take a sweat for Falkirk..

Foul by Christos Karipidis (Hearts) on Michael Higdon (Falkirk). Falkirk substitution: Pedro Moutinho replaced by Russell Latapy (tactical).

They are leading 2-1 against Hearts as we speak..

Last hurrah anyone?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 05, 2008, 03:58:45 PM
Hagi describes Taffarel as technically better than Schmeichel. 

....And who would any of US be to argue wit Hagi, right?
He damned RIGHT!!
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 05, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
Chow yuh have strong feelings on dis? ;D

Personally, ah eh even moved with de inclusion of Diego ... jes liking Baresi Hierro Maldini Zizou ... and Giggs' honourable mention (ah like him precisely fuh de reason Hagi likes him) ... much else is negotiable ... as ah run through that period in meh head though ... the rationale expressed for Van Basten coupling Gullit ... or is that Gullit coupling Van Basten? is one that's not novel ... very technical striker accompanied by a counterpart strong and effective on the ball.

No doubt Taffarel's mention will raise some eyebrows.

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 05, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
Chow yuh have strong feelings on dis? ;D

ALWAYS!  ;D

No doubt Taffarel's mention will raise some eyebrows.

  As well as I have to admit it should and I expect it to  boy, 'Seeker. But even as a 'keeer and Brazil fan myself, I always had a special regard for Taffarel. He wasn't the most graceful of 'keepers and I have seen  him give up the jumbie goal or two. But to me, he was still good enough to have brought Brazil out of its funk of poor GK's that parallelled their poor form in post-1970 football at the senior level. He was the first of what seems to be a current glut on the market of world class Brazilian 'keepers and he remained a very humble fella.  Schmeichel was a BOSS and will probably go down as one of the greatest ever....but it was hard to like him......just like Walter Zenga. ;D       
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 06, 2008, 05:17:57 AM
Fully understood.

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: spideybuff on May 06, 2008, 01:23:34 PM
How Hagi could put Figo in front of himself?  :o
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 06, 2008, 02:21:41 PM
Fully understood.



Thank you for that tidbit, 'Seeker. It would be interesting to see if/which/how many black new jersey "republicans", though fully aware of this fact, would still vote for this "rodney p. fraulein-hausen" when he runs for re-election (the B*#CH that he is!)
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Peong on May 06, 2008, 02:51:32 PM
So Hagi did not name Taffarel because they were teammates at Gala, right?
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Filho on May 06, 2008, 04:11:36 PM
So Hagi did not name Taffarel because they were teammates at Gala, right?


u can either see that as making him biased, or making him more informed after seeing him up close and personal.

imo. Hagi is right tho'..At Gala Taffarel came good - like a lot of players who have a great end to their career after falling off. I never saw any Turkish league games but I actually watched the UEFA Cup final when they beat Arsenal. He won man of the match. Great great keeping. Saw Galatasaray in the champion's league too and Taffarel was tops. Anybody who saw the games against Real Madrid or AC Milan would find it hard to disagree. Even a big Brazil fan like me was completely amazed cuz I thought he was done. I was glad to see him get his due after a long succesful career. he is a legend at Gala

truth is, these pros pick vastly differing teams in 4-4-2. there will always be some subjectivity. a lot of the players they pick are guys who they played with or against. some are just big legends who they've never actually seen play live. in other words, despite their experience and their ability to analyze players' abilities on a more technical levely, they're picking teams a lot like we would. But imo, Taffarel was underrated partly because he was Brazilian and Brazilian keepers were written off as shite before a ballw as kicked. A mistake by a Brazilian keeper is not the same as a mistake by an Italian or German keeper. But you don't become the first international goalkeeper in Serie A cuz you are just ok. The man broke Italian holy ground and open the doors. His first few years at Parma and Brazil, he was amazing. And his latter years at Galatasarray confirmed that he was really a superb keeper. The best? I eh going there..but not a controversial pick on someone's best list imo
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Peong on May 06, 2008, 04:32:51 PM
I never saw Taffarel play for Gala. That was the tail end of his career, but when it have men who playin at the top level for years and years, they will have to be considered the best.

Any 1 of the Italy's top 3 for the past 10 years is better than Taffarel.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 06, 2008, 05:43:15 PM
Let's recall also that technical proficiency speaks only to one component of goalkeeping.

To say that he is technically better than Schmeichel is not to say that he exceeds Schmeichel in every facet, although this is open for debate. That said, if I recall, Hagi credits Taffarel for his organizational skills (as a defender of last resort) among other things.

I am aware of technically superior keepers who for other reasons do not claim consistent starts over their rivals for the position. Keeping is a complex task that's often made to look 'easy'.

I think Schmeichel's tenure at a certain fancied club may be playing a role in the 'shock' of Hagi's starting keeper.

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Filho on May 07, 2008, 05:06:27 AM
I never saw Taffarel play for Gala. That was the tail end of his career, but when it have men who playin at the top level for years and years, they will have to be considered the best.

Any 1 of the Italy's top 3 for the past 10 years is better than Taffarel.


boss..doh geh me wrong. Taffarel wasn't making my first 11, 2nd 11 or 3rd 11..if you catch my drift. But i still say he was underrated and I 100% sure he get Hagi vote cuz he had a great spell at Galatasaray and believe it or not, Taffarel was arguably a top 3 goalie in Serie A  for some time when he first started at Parma.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 07, 2008, 06:32:54 AM
I never saw Taffarel play for Gala. That was the tail end of his career, but when it have men who playin at the top level for years and years, they will have to be considered the best.

Any 1 of the Italy's top 3 for the past 10 years is better than Taffarel.


boss..doh geh me wrong. Taffarel wasn't making my first 11, 2nd 11 or 3rd 11..if you catch my drift. But i still say he was underrated and I 100% sure he get Hagi vote cuz he had a great spell at Galatasaray and believe it or not, Taffarel was arguably a top 3 goalie in Serie A for some time when he first started at Parma.

     Filho, the word you used is "..underrated.." and I think that word, paired with "underappreciated" really describe Taffarel best. Yes, he was clumsy looking (maybe his mix of German and Italian heritagte have sumting to do wit dat) and gave up the odd jumbie goal (something just about EVERY 'KEEPER, except, maybe G. Buffon, does) but he was solid for just about every club he played for and he was a saviour for Brazil in games and in penalty shootouts on many an occaision as Italy and Holland can attest to.
 Also, if what you pointed out is accurate, the mere thought of him being the first foreign 'keeper in Serie A speaks volumes and the volumes loom even larger when you consider that Italy consistently produces some of the very best GK's. Also, Taffarel's tenure came when the big three in the league fielded some world class of their own: Stefano Tacconi, Juventus; Sebastiano Rossi, AC Milan; Walter Zenga, Inter.
     
 Truth is, goalkeeping is alot more complicated than the averege fan, outfield player, or even alot of coaches have an appreciation for and alot of factors go into someone like Hagi, who has played and coached at the top level, deciding who is their 'keeper and who isn't.  I'm sure some "nepotism" played a role in his call, but he has rubbed shoulders with some of the finest. Maybe he see someting others don't.   
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kicker on May 07, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
From my recollection, Tafarrel was first recognized for his ability to stop PKs (at the youth & olympic level), and his kicking technique- he was also in general very comfortable with the ball at his feet (a major g-keeping asset) which is rooted in his non goalkeeping playing background. He was also the first Brazilian keeper in "recent" times to be regarded as World Class. He left WC '90 with arguably the best save ever....(I've read message boards where many say that they thought his save off Mo' Johnston against Scotland in the dying minutes was better than Banks' save off of Pele's header- not as memorable of course, but just as good imo)... Taffarel, Zenga & Conejo (C.Rica) were regarded the 3 best keepers in WC '90- selected in the WC '90 all star team........ in WC '94 he barely touched the ball because Brazil was so solid defensively and all round, so in WC '98 when he was called into action more, some of his technical deficiencies were exposed (in particular coming off his line for crosses)...and he came in for more scrutiny. In the end he redeemed his career at Gala and ended on a high note. First high profile Brazilian keeper in a modern day football, first int'l keeper in the Serie A, and a 3 WC span including a winner's medal, a runner's up medal, an all WC '90 roster selection and a UEFA cup winner's medal in his European exploits- not too shabby if you ask me...
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dinho on May 07, 2008, 10:22:41 AM
I never saw Taffarel play for Gala. That was the tail end of his career, but when it have men who playin at the top level for years and years, they will have to be considered the best.

Any 1 of the Italy's top 3 for the past 10 years is better than Taffarel.


boss..doh geh me wrong. Taffarel wasn't making my first 11, 2nd 11 or 3rd 11..if you catch my drift. But i still say he was underrated and I 100% sure he get Hagi vote cuz he had a great spell at Galatasaray and believe it or not, Taffarel was arguably a top 3 goalie in Serie A for some time when he first started at Parma.

Filho, the word you used is "..underrated.." and I think that word, paired with "underappreciated" really describe Taffarel best. Yes, he was clumsy looking (maybe his mix of German and Italian heritagte have sumting to do wit dat) and gave up the odd jumbie goal (something just about EVERY 'KEEPER, except, maybe G. Buffon, does) but he was solid for just about every club he played for and he was a saviour for Brazil in games and in penalty shootouts on many an occaision as Italy and Holland can attest to.
 Also, if what you pointed out is accurate, the mere thought of him being the first foreign 'keeper in Serie A speaks volumes and the volumes loom even larger when you consider that Italy consistently produces some of the very best GK's. Also, Taffarel's tenure came when the big three in the league fielded some world class of their own: Stefano Tacconi, Juventus; Sebastiano Rossi, AC Milan; Walter Zenga, Inter.

 Truth is, goalkeeping is alot more complicated than the averege fan, outfield player, or even alot of coaches have an appreciation for and alot of factors go into someone like Hagi, who has played and coached at the top level, deciding who is their 'keeper and who isn't. I'm sure some "nepotism" played a role in his call, but he has rubbed shoulders with some of the finest. Maybe he see someting others don't.

Waay chow, yuh call ah big tune there... Stefano Tacconi.. :beermug:

I would add Luca Marchegiani (Lazio), Gianluca Pagliuca (Sampdoria) and young Francesco Toldo (Fiorentina) to that list.. Never really rated Rossi at AC Milan and imo he was more a beneficiary of Baresi and that best defence than anything else..

I don't think anyone is arguing Taffarel's quality because he was a really good goalkeeper. The dispute is whether he was great enough to merit a place on an all-time first XI.

For me, he was never in the top 4 or 5 italian keepers and his rating have alot to do with the fact that he was the first solid Brazilian goalkeeper for a long time. He was technically good and orthodox, but some of the greatest goalkeepers were never orthodox (Schmeichel, Buffon, Casillas, Preudhomme). He wasn't no big flyer like the other Italian keepers.  He never inspire the kinda confidence in me to say he would save anything outside of the unstoppable.

Imo he was very good, but not great.
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 07, 2008, 12:02:16 PM
Kicker, tanx fuh reminding of all his other achievements  dred, ah goin' and blow de dust off de Brazil-Scotland tape and watch it again. I never got to see Taffarel in youth tounaments but he was always a boss in my book. Ah going and blow off de dust off de Scotland-Costa Rica game, too. Luis Gabelo Conejo was a real boss, too and really was one of the top 'keepers in "Italia 90" and he was just in T&T for that big GK course the other day.


  Omar, you wasn't the only one that thought that AC Milan's defence helped to inflate Rossi's ability. Dize why Sacci drop 'im from the Italian squad. But I remember seeing that man pull off some saves that no man his height had a right making. He had some of the sharpest reflexes I had ever seen in a 'keeper, both he and Tacconi........and Kasey Keller........and Shaka. ;D  :beermug:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Big Magician on May 08, 2008, 06:10:23 AM
wait nah...i come to read de last page bout the king...and is keepers..???
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: pardners on May 08, 2008, 06:49:03 AM
wait nah...i come to read de last page bout the king...and is keepers..???

tell mih dis ting nah
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 08, 2008, 08:06:36 AM
wait nah...i come to read de last page bout the king...and is keepers..???

tell mih dis ting nah

Dize how allyuh does read book, too? Skip de middle passage(s) and jump to de last? Well allyuh have more surprise to come. :devil:
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: dinho on May 10, 2008, 09:03:13 PM
This was on the BBC gossip (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7393598.stm) section today:

Falkirk midfielder Russell Latapy, who turns 40 in August, says he is enjoying his football more than ever and has not entertained thoughts of retiring. (Daily Record)

Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: kiffysmooth on May 11, 2008, 02:49:50 PM
This was on the BBC gossip (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7393598.stm) section today:

Falkirk midfielder Russell Latapy, who turns 40 in August, says he is enjoying his football more than ever and has not entertained thoughts of retiring. (Daily Record)


Thanks for giving de tires on de thread some allignment.  De thread was swerving off de road too much.  Good job Omar
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: trinipepper on May 11, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
latas u go breads..a lot ah peope was asking who was that player who came on in de world cup.... latas is one of trini greatest.... de can narrow that listed top 50 to 30 yes ras...
Title: Re: Latapy listed as 50 greatest foreign players in British football.
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 12, 2008, 06:39:53 PM
Can anoyone post the list of the 50 players...
1. Eric Cantona
2. Dennis Bergkamp
3. Thierry Henry
4. Henrik Larrson
5. Gianfranco Zola
6. Peter Schmiechel
7. Ossie Ardiles
8. Cristiano Ronaldo
9. Jurgen Klinsmann
10. Patrick Vieira
11. Dwight Yorke
12. Ruud Gullit
13. Jaap Stam
14. Eddie Firmani
15. Paolo Di Canio
16. George Robledo
17. Bruce Grobelaar
18. Ruud Van Nistelrooy
19. Robert Pires
20. Brian Laudrup
21. Didier Drogba
22. Claude Makelele
23. David Ginola
24. Andrei Kanchelskis
25. Marcel Desailly
26. Bert Trautmann
27. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
28. Arnold Muhren
29. Frans Thijssen
30. Jan Mlby
31. Juninho
32. Gianluca Vialli
33. Freddie Ljungberg
34. Ole Gunnar Solskjr
35. Michael Essien
36. Clyde Best
37. Nicolas Anelka
38. Georgi Kinkladze
39. Brad Freidel
40. Petr Cech
41. Lubomir Moravcik
42. Anders Limpar
43. Jay Jay Okocha
44. Roy Wegerle
45. Sami Hyypi
46. Cesc Fabregas
47. Youri Djorkaeff
48. Kazimierz Deyna
49. Russell Latapy
50. Arthur Wharton
51. Marc Overmars
52. Alexi Mikhailichenko
53. Roland Nilsson
54. Edwin Van Der Sar
55. Emmanuel Petit
56. Johnny Hubbard
57. Dietmar Hamann
58. Ronny Johnsen
59. Eidur Gudjohnsen
60. Dimitar Berbatov
61. Carlo Cudicini
62. Frank Sauzee
63. Igor Stimac
64. Ricky Villa
65. Mark Viduka
66. Roberto Di Matteo
67. Ivan Golac
68. Carig Johnston
69. Joe Marston
70. Henning Berg
71. Jussi Jskelinen
72. Slaven Bilic
73. Albert Johanssen
74. Shaun Goater
75. Gustavo Poyet
76. Harry Kewell
77. Franck Leboeuf
78. Benito Carbone
79. Claudio Caniggia
80. Uwe Rosler
81. Mark Bosnich
82. Lucas Radebe
83. Aljosa Asanovic
84. Tore Andre Flo
85. Pierre Van Hooijdonk
86. Attilio Lombardo
87. Dan Petrescu
88. Jesper Olsen
89. Antti Niemi
90. Tony Yeboah
91. Nwankwo Kanu
92. Tim Cahill
93. Shunsuke Nakamura
94. Nolberto Solano
95. Paulo Wanchope
96. Aiyegbeni Yakubu
97. Jan Age Fjortoft
98. Phillipe Albert
99. John Harkes
100. Kasey Keller


ways my boys make 2nd n 3rd Dennis above Thierry too seeing Dennis run ball in the flesh is amazing makes u truly understand the skill level the greats have

well done yorkie and latas mayeb if latas played in the prem he would be higher up
Title: Lets be honest!!
Post by: prodigy23 on December 21, 2008, 03:43:18 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: freakazoid on December 21, 2008, 03:46:34 PM
hmmmm.............. i need 2 upgrade from popcorn 4 this one.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: iceberg on December 21, 2008, 03:52:06 PM
I personally think he shouldn't be playing but I disagree with you on the coaching aspect.  It is a good idea to have him as part of the technical team as an assistant coach. He is a legend locally and has vast knowledge of the game after so many years in Europe. This man knows T&T football and the way it should be played.  Plus he can assist with demonstrating to the younger players what the coach what's on the field of play and he can add his twist to it also.  Honestly having Latapy as a Coach & Yorke as our leader on the field is instrumental to our success for SA 2010.

Cheers  :beermug:
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: sub1 on December 21, 2008, 05:28:07 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: sammy on December 21, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.

the man is a jackass for having his own opinion? and just because his opinion not in line with everybody else own, he shouldn't be allowed to write it?

that aside, the team definitely needs him around. Y hire someone from outside when we have we own hero right here. Y not give him a chance.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: elan on December 21, 2008, 07:04:57 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.

Why the man or woman don't know what he talking about? He/she makes good sense. I really hope Latapy do well cause if he do shyte is real pressure, cause I don't believe he ready YET.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: saga pinto on December 21, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
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Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Fyzoman on December 21, 2008, 07:55:35 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.

the man is a jackass for having his own opinion? and just because his opinion not in line with everybody else own, he shouldn't be allowed to write it?

that aside, the team definitely needs him around. Y hire someone from outside when we have we own hero right here. Y not give him a chance.

well said Sammy.

Prodigy ah know yuh mean well and voicing how yuh feel eh, and it mustbe have nuff man feel de same way yuh do, BUT yuh see when yuh say,"But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign" ....yuh serious wid dat question breds?
yuh following dis team wid dis jackass-ah mean-dese jackasses at de helm?
yuh was in Chicago for de practice game, yuh watch it on tv?
yuh see beasly fighting to catch up wid Russell in de stadium (and for christsake yes ah know he cyah do dat for ah whole game, but if he could once ah game and we score, we good, we go defend for de remainder ;))

Russell eh no ass, he will leave de stage when he good and ready (or is dat not ready) until den i say enjoy every chance yuh get to watch we Magician weaving he wand nah.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Coop's on December 21, 2008, 08:03:12 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: ChipChipSilver on December 21, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.

Well Said ..  :beermug:

Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 21, 2008, 10:50:17 PM
All I have 2 say is Mats ready? Me eh want Latas more in bed wit JWt is y me eh want he in d wuk.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: prodigy23 on December 21, 2008, 11:07:18 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.

You know what, my bad buddy. I didnt know ur opnion was d only one that is valid on this whole site, as a matter of fact  should have ur own site, where u could be d only one, talkin to ur self because judging by sum of the responses, your opinion's are the only one;s that is every valid on this site.I apologise for having a differing opinion than u c**T!!!
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 21, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
My heart bleeds for you, Latapy

I am sorry for Russell Latapy. I feel sorry for him because everything was going good in Scotland. What with a week of celebrations in his honour, reports of his sons involvement in a Falkirk development programme, etc.

Then out of the blue... wham! Jack Warner needs him here permanently on the technical staff, and he falls for it. Russell is on his way to good ole T&T.

I am sorry, my boy, but even you will soon taste bitter and be spat out, accompanied by headlines (ever eager to appease the czar) of some failing on your part. Any failing! Real or imagined, it does not matter, no questions asked, youre just another plaything.

My heart genuinely bleeds for you. And your son, your poor son.

Davendra Gadranyam

St Augustine

Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: elan on December 21, 2008, 11:38:48 PM
"On the fifth day, look to the east, at the rising of first dawn."

Weary why you lamenting when everyone celebrating his return. 
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: asylumseeker on December 22, 2008, 01:32:20 AM
My heart bleeds for you, Latapy

I am sorry for Russell Latapy. I feel sorry for him because everything was going good in Scotland. What with a week of celebrations in his honour, reports of his sons involvement in a Falkirk development programme, etc.

Then out of the blue... wham! Jack Warner needs him here permanently on the technical staff, and he falls for it. Russell is on his way to good ole T&T.

I am sorry, my boy, but even you will soon taste bitter and be spat out, accompanied by headlines (ever eager to appease the czar) of some failing on your part. Any failing! Real or imagined, it does not matter, no questions asked, youre just another plaything.

My heart genuinely bleeds for you. And your son, your poor son.

Davendra Gadranyam

St Augustine


I thought weary ketch ah vaps of prose ... dahis until ah see de 'Davendra Gadranyam'


p.s.  at least everybody being honest in de thread ... :)
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: sub1 on December 22, 2008, 03:22:46 AM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.

Well said. I am glad that you agree that everyone is entittled to his or her own opinion. My opinion is that both you and Prodigy are both asses. You realise that I dont have to cuss to say that. Forgive me but I rarely suffer fools.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: sjahrain on December 22, 2008, 05:08:46 AM
Its not a question of how long it take for you to grow up
But how long it take for you to see the light........ :rotfl:

Why cant we just get along...without all the negatives....

Jah Jah Loves you ....too

To one and all have a great day.peace be unto you and yours....... :devil:
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: freakazoid on December 22, 2008, 06:32:29 AM
bigmag ah waiting 4 yuh post on this topic
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 22, 2008, 07:25:11 AM
Elan u should know by now I am a realist y would I want 2 c Latas bigger in d circus dat is d TTFF?
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Weh-it-is on December 22, 2008, 09:53:52 AM
We must understand that Latas may not necessarily have the experience; but he can be the right fit for the job. Most of us know of Latas history with the country as a national player and his accomplishments with different clubs. His familiarly with the TTFF and the nonsense than takes place with the organization that has been stifling our growth with the game, he may know how to assist or deal with such to make it better. (Maneuver thru the corruption)  The younger players on the team will be motivated to listen to Latas more so than ah certain coach whos name I will no longer pronounce.

Coaching is not all about formations and or executions of plays on the pitch, but Its about making a player believe in their ability and themselves!  Lastas would fit in well into the position because our younger players can relate to him. They already know of his reputation because it precedes him.  He will be great for our football.

Alyuh stop cussing each other!  Have some respect.   ;)
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Big Magician on December 22, 2008, 11:21:37 AM
post what ??...de man talking
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Bakes on December 22, 2008, 11:29:09 AM
Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.

*sheds tear*


...'tis the season for giving, thus he gave.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Daft Trini on December 22, 2008, 12:10:13 PM
"On the fifth day, look to the east, at the rising of first dawn."

Weary why you lamenting when everyone celebrating his return. 

What we surrounded by Uruk-Hai??? Is Latapy supposed to bring us some football lembas bread? We get ah little ah what we want and we belly go be full???

We ain't in Helms Deep we going through the passages of the marshes  :devil:

You forgetting that Smeagol leading us.... and he leading us through the Morthond Vale and to Shelobs nest..
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: berris on December 22, 2008, 08:44:22 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.




Lawd fadda ,Coops, ah weak  :rotfl: :rotfl:  :rotfl:     
...But very well put ........... :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Quags on December 22, 2008, 10:43:48 PM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
Yah know the funny thing eh Sub 1 ,with all the hoopla ,eh even cuss the man once lol.The poster just make the error of impsing Latapy  :o
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: vb on December 23, 2008, 06:02:59 AM
At this point in time Rusell Latapy should not have an "real" role on the TnT team. He's forty years old and clearly cannot keep up with the play of our regional foes. And he's a player/coach for at best an average scottish team. I have appreciated what he has done for this country over the years and will forever be grateful. But i dont see y his name keeps coming up either as a player or coach at such a crucial stge in our qualifying campaign. Am i the only one that feels this way??????

Lets be honest , you are a serious jackass with zero to little football sense. I dont see why you should be allowed to write as either a pretender playing you know the game or as an idiot who really dont know the game. I know that I am not the only that feels this way.
        Why you don't hull your MC,you always f**king up somebody on this website and this shyt has to stop,everybody here entitled to their own opinion,just because they don't agree or not in line with what your say you have problems with them,look f**k YOU and give people a chance to speak their minds.You eh tired talking shyt on the site.

Well said. I am glad that you agree that everyone is entittled to his or her own opinion. My opinion is that both you and Prodigy are both asses. You realise that I dont have to cuss to say that. Forgive me but I rarely suffer fools.

Coops boy!! I never expected such an outburst from you ;) De man really mash yuh corn eh?

Sub, when you have a difference of opinion, rarely does your head come out of your ass.

Having said all of that, my little two cents is Latas has more to offer as a Coach than as a player. Years playing with and against the best, working with top class coaches and knowledge of the TT culture bodes well.

Not bad for a 40 yr old and only there becz of the paucity of a midfield genius in TT.

What's sad, is that for the moment we need Latas on the field.

VB
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Themanfriday on December 23, 2008, 06:33:41 AM
Well here is my oppinion.


I believe that Latapy may have the public leverage to finally bring an end to Jacks games.  The first time they disagree and Latapy speaks out about it. He will have Jack back pedaling.

Remember you heard it first from me. It may not be now but it will happen. Let us see then.......
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 23, 2008, 09:56:40 AM
Friday yuh wrong if Latas etal had some gray matter would agree wit u dem eh even stand up 4 dey money dem fellas eh know dey worth so he eh have nooooooooo leverage.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: MEP on December 23, 2008, 05:42:32 PM
At some point in time Latapy will be the coach of the national team that time just isn't now unless he is willing to be a puppet of Jack. Would he serve well as player coach? that is quite iffy as there has to be one clearly and defined voice issuing instructions. Right now between Maturana and Corneal we're not sure as to who is running the show and if Latas were to add his voice then there may be more confusion than harmony.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: Deeks on December 23, 2008, 06:02:29 PM
I agree with MEP. There is total confusion as to what is really happening with this entire campaign.

Guys, I respect Coops a great deal. I don't agree with everything he says. But he is the only man on this site that has had dealings with Jack. He knows Jack modus operandi. He knows Jack uses his ill-gotten power as a FIFA executive to manipulate the Trinidad public into believing that he uses all "his" money to prop up TT football. Coops knows that all the band-waggonists fan of TT(except the vast majority on this website)  believe jack is right. So when Jack Jack comes up with his ideas, Coops knows most TT fans will fall for it hook, line and stinker.  Guys Jack has been doing this since the late 70's.  That man still doing it to us.  I don't think Coop is a Jack fan. He just respect the man who uses his power to control a very fickled TT public.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 23, 2008, 07:46:47 PM
So he have 2wait b4JW left d scene. FYI Daryan and Darren. He have a longgggggggggg wait.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: MEP on December 23, 2008, 11:03:40 PM
just remember where the sins of de fadder fall...so D&D go be payin big time..plus from what I've been told dey eh too bright.............
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 23, 2008, 11:19:21 PM
What bein bright have 2 do wit anyting. Ticket or Leave It. D beginin of d dnasty.
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: MEP on December 23, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
yuh have to be bright or at least have some semblance of intelligence to maintain de status quo....dumb and dumber eh like jack
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: weary1969 on December 23, 2008, 11:34:08 PM
DEY WORSE
Title: Re: Lets be honest!!
Post by: WARRIORKING on December 25, 2008, 12:26:04 AM
Alot of you think you are smarter than everybody ! the man is  entitled to have his own opinion and it is not a bad one cause  not every good player can be a coach and the ones who were good player that became coaches it took them some time after they retire to study the game form the sideline before coming a coach. example of a great player who stink as a coach . michael jordan coaching the washinton wizards . and he was far greater at his sport than latapy is in his . so its jus something to think about  beofre u pass judgement
Title: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 16, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
talking football

There will be football talk on i95.5 until the Costa Rica game .. hislop will be the guest  Thursday
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 16, 2009, 04:44:36 PM
Theobald say maturana was a relax coach and they were never a team ...
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: weary1969 on May 16, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
talking football

There will be football talk on i95.5 until the Costa Rica game .. hislop will be the guest  Thursday

Hislop as d guess last thursday. Imagine Bleeder sayin Mats was really a goat and a dumbtisttttttttt
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 16, 2009, 04:47:18 PM
talking football

There will be football talk on i95.5 until the Costa Rica game .. hislop will be the guest  Thursday

Hislop as d guess last thursday. Imagine Bleeder sayin Mats was really a goat and a dumbtisttttttttt

oh my mistake  :beermug:
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: weary1969 on May 16, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
talking football

There will be football talk on i95.5 until the Costa Rica game .. hislop will be the guest  Thursday

Hislop as d guess last thursday. Imagine Bleeder sayin Mats was really a goat and a dumbtisttttttttt

oh my mistake  :beermug:

U are 4given
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Star Child on May 16, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Ah hate when men does make this post and no link....

Steups....
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Babalawo on May 16, 2009, 06:20:18 PM
Ah hate when men does make this post and no link....

Steups....
too late anyway aready
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: arrow on May 17, 2009, 06:25:23 AM
Ah hate when men does make this post and no link....

Steups....

you ever hear of google?
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: Kingk on May 17, 2009, 07:43:05 AM
so what else was said during the show for those of us who didnt catch it..???
Title: Re: Bleeder on i95.5 fm now
Post by: weary1969 on May 17, 2009, 01:34:26 PM
so what else was said during the show for those of us who didnt catch it..???

Nutten dat we did not know he english was llike he coachin poor. D lack of fitness and he compare him 2 Don Leo and dey not is like comparing earth 2 mars.
Title: 6:30PM Eastern. Tune into I95.5FM...Andre talkin Football NOW
Post by: palos on May 21, 2009, 04:33:21 PM
LIVE FEED (http://www.i955fm.com/nowplaying.aspx)
Title: Re: 6:30PM Eastern. Tune into I95.5FM...Andre talkin Football NOW
Post by: Babalawo on May 21, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
Lawrence on
Title: Re: 6:30PM Eastern. Tune into I95.5FM...Andre talkin Football NOW
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
Lawrence on

Missed it what did he say anybody?
Title: Re: 6:30PM Eastern. Tune into I95.5FM...Andre talkin Football NOW
Post by: E-man on May 21, 2009, 07:29:35 PM
Lawrence on

Missed it what did he say anybody?

reminisced mostly about 2006, spoke briefly about relationship with Mats (fairly good - diplomatic type answer) took a couple caller's questions which I didn't catch.
Title: Re: 6:30PM Eastern. Tune into I95.5FM...Andre talkin Football NOW
Post by: weary1969 on May 21, 2009, 08:52:03 PM
Lawrence on

Missed it what did he say anybody?

reminisced mostly about 2006, spoke briefly about relationship with Mats (fairly good - diplomatic type answer) took a couple caller's questions which I didn't catch.


Thanks
Title: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 30, 2009, 04:19:58 PM
interview now on the phone
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: FireBrand on May 30, 2009, 04:22:05 PM
http://www.i955fm.com/nowplaying.aspx (http://www.i955fm.com/nowplaying.aspx)
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: maxg on May 30, 2009, 04:59:40 PM
  :applause: :applause::bringiton: :bringiton:
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: palos on May 30, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
For those of us that missed it, can someone please provide a lil summary of what was discussed?

Thanks
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: kicker on May 30, 2009, 05:11:42 PM
All I heard was the last question where A.Batiste asked:

"Russell I spoke to your mom on mother's day and she told me that you can't boil water....Is it true Russell that you can't cook"

Latapy's response was "Mummy is always right"...

Based on the lack of confidence in Latas being communicated on the board in some of the other threads, I'd have to say that that about sums it up. 

Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: WestCoast on May 30, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
All I heard was the last question where A.Batiste asked:

"Russell I spoke to your mom on mother's day and she told me that you can't boil water....Is it true Russell that you can't cook"

Latapy's response was "Mummy is always right"...

Based on the lack of confidence in Latas being communicated on the board in some of the other threads, I'd have to say that that about sums it up. 
eh ???
Kicker, maybe some elaboration may be in order
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: FireBrand on May 30, 2009, 05:46:31 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: weary1969 on May 30, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.

He also said number 14 will not b out 4 a mth and it is now a day to day situation.
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: FireBrand on May 30, 2009, 05:49:37 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.

He also said number 14 will not b out 4 a mth and it is now a day to day situation.
Thanks...ah missed that.
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: weary1969 on May 30, 2009, 05:51:27 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.

He also said number 14 will not b out 4 a mth and it is now a day to day situation.
Thanks...ah missed that.

De nada
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: samo on May 30, 2009, 05:58:39 PM
Thanx...
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: palos on May 30, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.

Thanx  fire and weary  :beermug:
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: maxg on May 30, 2009, 06:11:09 PM
I think it would be unfair to simply sumarize what he said, can't convey how he said...it would be like asking man to summarize what ML King say in his "I have a dream speech"....ok..ok..Latapy interview, not as important or huge, but actual text and tone would be important in conveying what he said......hopefully somebody could play it....

ah man ask wha did the prime minister say..fella say " He say we would never surrender to Germany, like if that was ever ah option, I already studying Japanese, steups"   ;D
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 30, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
From what I gathered...nothing was divulged that was not already reported in the articles and video interviews posted here.  Except that the final squad will be selected on Monday or Tuesday. And when asked if we should expect an exciting brand of football from the team...he said the brand will be based on the capabilities of the players, but he will try to instill some flair in our game with achieving a positive result being the primary objective.

He also said number 14 will not b out 4 a mth and it is now a day to day situation.

 :)

 :beermug:

come on Legend
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: kicker on May 30, 2009, 06:18:45 PM
All I heard was the last question where A.Batiste asked:

"Russell I spoke to your mom on mother's day and she told me that you can't boil water....Is it true Russell that you can't cook"

Latapy's response was "Mummy is always right"...

Based on the lack of confidence in Latas being communicated on the board in some of the other threads, I'd have to say that that about sums it up. 
eh ???
Kicker, maybe some elaboration may be in order

lol ...  ;D 

I was just on sh*t...meaning doesn't really matter what was discussed- probably won't change people's minds on Latas' approach, player selection etc...

p.s. What I posted was in fact the last question asked in the interview. 
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: WestCoast on May 30, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
All I heard was the last question where A.Batiste asked:
"Russell I spoke to your mom on mother's day and she told me that you can't boil water....Is it true Russell that you can't cook"
Latapy's response was "Mummy is always right"...
Based on the lack of confidence in Latas being communicated on the board in some of the other threads, I'd have to say that that about sums it up. 
eh ???
Kicker, maybe some elaboration may be in order
lol ...  ;D 
I was just on sh*t...meaning doesn't really matter what was discussed- probably won't change people's minds on Latas' approach, player selection etc...
p.s. What I posted was in fact the last question asked in the interview. 
ok thanks
Title: Re: russell on i95.5fm
Post by: Big Magician on May 30, 2009, 07:11:29 PM
WE BEATING COSTA RICA
Title: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on August 05, 2009, 06:54:35 AM
Since he have been coach he has not impress and is the only coach who never seems to get or play any warm up games.

With 2 lost (Mexico & Costa Rica), 1 win (St Kitts) and a tie (U-20 team).

Imagine, we have 7 days to go and we dont have a full team in training.

Imagine we have not play a competitive match in months.

Lets not forget his buddy Dwight Yorke who chasing women all over the globe is not even interested anymore. No clubs, he unfit and he is captain, he dont get sub and he is a sure pick.

I believe Jack Warner and the TTFF throw in the towel long time and if this is the case, leave Latapy as coach.

But if we really serious about going South Africa then we in real trouble.

Hayden Tinto in not the answer. We need team work and proper preparation.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 07:02:05 AM
Since he have been coach he has not impress and is the only coach who never seems to get or play any warm up games.

With 2 lost (Mexico & Costa Rica), 1 win (St Kitts) and a tie (U-20 team).

Imagine, we have 7 days to go and we dont have a full team in training.

Imagine we have not play a competitive match in months.

Lets not forget his buddy Dwight Yorke who chasing women all over the globe is not even interested anymore. No clubs, he unfit and he is captain, he dont get sub and he is a sure pick.

I believe Jack Warner and the TTFF throw in the towel long time and if this is the case, leave Latapy as coach.

But if we really serious about going South Africa then we in real trouble.

Hayden Tinto in not the answer. We need team work and proper preparation.

I agree with some of what you said above but lets not jump the gun!
I say give the Magician more time, lets give him enough time to do his magic or enough rope to hang himself.
Whichever way, we owe the man that much as to give him enough time to prove himself as national coach material in the short or long term!
And doh forget Russell could only ask for decent warm-up games, he can't demand them unless he's prepared to walk for his demands! Now as a coach just starting out on his coaching career that will be equivalent to sabotaging his future national coaching career!
The more games Latas can win as national head coach is the more demands he'll be able to make with the threat of walking if the TTFF don't comply to his demands. Also with wins under his belt and the team playing good football Russell will have the T&T football supporting public on his side when he makes his demands for better quality warm-up games!

Looks like the 150k the TTFF get for warm-up games will only get spend on the senior team if we win against El Salvador on Wednesday unless JW spend it already!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: spideybuff on August 05, 2009, 07:05:51 AM
Since he have been coach he has not impress

You see the games or u just going based on results?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trin on August 05, 2009, 07:09:37 AM
yuh puttin down realll lagley der
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on August 05, 2009, 07:13:42 AM

You see the games or u just going based on results?

Well, I saw 2 games, piece of one and I going on results also. The under 20 team and St Kitts alone scored 5 goals on us, two teams we should be beating badly even if its a warm up, they shouldn't score on us, we are a HEX team.

Latapy have the team playing more attacking football but our defence looks worst than before.

While he might be a good coach one day at this point in time, we need experience.

If Latapy gets us to 4th place I would be surprise, but he will be riding on luck. Honduras and El Salvador are serious teams, who play with heart.

I don't wish him bad and I still pray we make it to SA 2010, but Latapy needs to be a little better organised and have more ambition.

He selling his reputition to save Jack some money....

Being a good player doesn't mean you will be a good coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kingdavid on August 05, 2009, 07:18:30 AM
why ppl dont realize in the case of t&t football it does not matter who or how good our coach is once JACK WARNER is the T.T.F.F "Special Advisor" (CEO, GM, EVERY F---ING THING) we football not goin a damn place.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Star Child on August 05, 2009, 07:18:54 AM
Latapy is a T&T legend. A national hero.

Same with Maradona and Pele. -  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on August 05, 2009, 07:26:09 AM
why ppl dont realize in the case of t&t football it does not matter who or how good our coach is once JACK WARNER is the T.T.F.F "Special Advisor" (CEO, GM, EVERY F---ING THING) we football not goin a damn place.

But didn't they make it to the last world cup. ?

Latapy didn't have to take the job under any bad situation to tarnish his rep. Remember that, so he will get bash like everyone else if he don't produce. This is why he must make sure he gets the tool to do his job because in the end he will look bad, not the TTFF. Jack Warner always win. Latapy have to look after himself.

What getting me is this fool of a coach dont believe in playing friendly games and de govt give them de money to play a game or two. He rather run around de stadium and sweat with Caledonia and bawl he fit and ready for El Salvador while El Salvador done playing a lot of games.

This fool of a coach keeping every private like El Salvador cant find out, I am sure they could find out if they want to, like he have some big dam players in de pro league, it doesn't matter who you hidding Latapy, you still picking your buddies in de end.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Lifeisgood on August 05, 2009, 07:30:08 AM
Sam - I see yuh tactics here dread (because you cyar be serious with this).... this is your way of putting some pressure (because there is none at this point ...  ::)  on the coach for the desired results.  You are banking on the fact the coach and players look at the forum, and see this ridiculous post as some kind of motivation.

You want to fire de man after 2 games?? - dis coming from a "Hero Warrior"

Are we still accepting Davy Jenny nominations?

Steeeuupps.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Flex on August 05, 2009, 07:37:12 AM
Latapy is a T&T legend. A national hero.

Same with Maradona and Pele. -  :rotfl:

A Hero is a Sandwich and a Legend is a Car. .... :devil:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 05, 2009, 07:39:48 AM
Sam making sum good points dey yo... Latapy need to chill with this late call ups i say at most team might have like 3 days to train b4 the match and if that aint sum rediculous shit iono what is El Salvador team will be together for about 6-7 days training and playing friendlies. While we still tying out pfl talent against U 20. Yorkie one of my Favorite players of all time Trini or not and even i know he don't deserve a call up, go figure i would be more suprise with a win than a lost or a draw...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 05, 2009, 07:42:46 AM
Latapy is a T&T legend. A national hero.

Same with Maradona and Pele. -  :rotfl:

A Hero is a Sandwich and a Legend is a Car. .... :devil:
:devil: :devil: :devil: thats jokez...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Rastaman on August 05, 2009, 07:44:19 AM
Sam - I see yuh tactics here dread (because you cyar be serious with this).... this is your way of putting some pressure (because there is none at this point ...  ::)  on the coach for the desired results.  You are banking on the fact the coach and players look at the forum, and see this ridiculous post as some kind of motivation.

You want to fire de man after 2 games?? - dis coming from a "Hero Warrior"

Are we still accepting Davy Jenny nominations?

Steeeuupps.
Well said  :applause: :applause:
Alyuh  men ent realise that Latapy can't get games if Jack Warner say NO MONEY !!!!!
What alyuh really want to the man to do ????

Maybe he should resign to please some a alyuh....but the next coach getting salt from the TTFF as well.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Errol on August 05, 2009, 07:47:24 AM
This is the worst treatment any T&T coach ever got. Even Najjar and Stuart Charles got more friendly games.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Weh-it-is on August 05, 2009, 07:48:26 AM
Oh gosh.  :-[ Nah Sam yuh cah beat him yet. Give Latas some more time with the team to get them together. We can't just look for a quick fix at this point. We need to look at the future and what he brings to our football as a national hero.  Even if we don not make it to this upcoming WC in SA, we should allow him to inject some of his talent into the younger players.   I totally believe that was one of the reasons why Jack and them hired him, knowing that it was not just about getting us to a WC but influencing the younger players to become great like him.  ;)

I do understand what you are saying about the preparation aspect of it all. The team is not participating in enough friendlys to better prepare them for higher competition. I concur!  As someone said earlier, he can only do so much as allowed by Jack and TTFF to get us better teams to go against. It is always a money problem when it relates to sports in TNT.  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: sammy on August 05, 2009, 08:03:01 AM
why ppl dont realize in the case of t&t football it does not matter who or how good our coach is once JACK WARNER is the T.T.F.F "Special Advisor" (CEO, GM, EVERY F---ING THING) we football not goin a damn place.

steups, so is jack fault them fellas playing shit and does show no spirit?

Jack is to blame for many things, but not everything.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: noize on August 05, 2009, 08:04:26 AM
This is the worst treatment any T&T coach ever got. Even Najjar and Stuart Charles got more friendly games.




I agree is almost like the man was set up to fail from the beginning...no money for real games and when they get some money TTFF eh using it for the Senior team...WTF!!! is that...Yuh hands tied as a coach if u have no financial backing from the bosses...Latas had 2 games and quite honestly the team look better in the Costa Rica game than ever before...Mexico game in the Azteca is a hard one to judge...but we didnt look great...with that said we have to wait and see ...we can't just jump the gun and throw the man under the bus...doh get meh wrong the friend Shyte gotta stop...and if it doesn't he will fail and will need to go....Dwight cannot play 90 min...and we need help in defence...big time!!!...so he has to fix that now or he done and we eh going nowhere!!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 05, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: rickstaa on August 05, 2009, 08:12:57 AM
hell NO.........alluh men wicked yes after three games,Yorke was ah sure pick since mats in charge so why now is fren thing,give the man ah chance he will turn arround tnt football...............
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 08:16:27 AM
altho there are some things i agree with on Sam..firing latapy or (rather even firing maturana) in the middle of a campaign was never going to help the team...we getting very heated and tha's good from passionate fans but many of US ARMCHAIR coaches tend to blame and point fingers and miss the real problems affecting the team...


tha's my two cents on the issue...

good luck latas..lewwe get that 3 points on the 12th..
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: ann3boys on August 05, 2009, 08:17:45 AM
absolutely NOT!!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 08:50:45 AM
doh ever refer to Latas as "this fool of a coach". That kinda talk  will get u hurt in these parts.

If you knew anyting about football you would know that it isn't his responsibility to secure warm up games, that's up to the TTFF. All he can do is request them. If you remember he had a tour lined up in Scotland or someting so.

The brand we have played since he has been in charge is markedly better than before.
But honestly you have to be a fool to really think he can completely turn a program around with no funding and either over-the-hill or highly inexperienced players.

This isn't 4 years ago when Beenie had a viable Yorke, Latapy, Whitley. Stern to add to the team.

You need a dose of reality...and to get a clue
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini Madness on August 05, 2009, 08:52:55 AM
this is a waste of a thread......if we started this campaign with latapy at the helm, i know for sure we would've had more than 2 points right about now. we would've been in gold cup, bermuda would've been a breeze. allyuh too fast.

attacking football is what we do...we dont defend it's just not T&T. they score 1 we scoring 2,they score 2 ,we scoring 3. we have more than enough talent to do it.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: King Deese on August 05, 2009, 09:01:17 AM
start a fire the ttff movement
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2009, 09:05:07 AM
the preparations for this el salvador game are a joke.. men just basically flying in for a sweat and i dont see us winning, we will probably scrape through at best..

but to lay that at the feet of Latas ???

what a blasphemous thread!  :shameonyou:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: FF on August 05, 2009, 09:06:08 AM
the preparations for this el salvador game are a joke.. men just basically flying in for a sweat and i dont see us winning, we will probably scrape through at best..

but to lay that at the feet of Latas ???

what a blasphemous thread!  :shameonyou:

Steups... we beating El Salvador... dem ent good... is the last 4 games I worried bout
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on August 05, 2009, 09:12:38 AM
doh ever refer to Latas as "this fool of a coach". That kinda talk  will get u hurt in these parts.

If you knew anyting about football you would know that it isn't his responsibility to secure warm up games, that's up to the TTFF. All he can do is request them. If you remember he had a tour lined up in Scotland or someting so.

The brand we have played since he has been in charge is markedly better than before.
But honestly you have to be a fool to really think he can completely turn a program around with no funding and either over-the-hill or highly inexperienced players.

This isn't 4 years ago when Beenie had a viable Yorke, Latapy, Whitley. Stern to add to the team.

You need a dose of reality...and to get a clue

de man really refer to Latas as dat boy?

one needs only to look at dis fellah avatar and know dis is ah backsidehole thread!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Lifeisgood on August 05, 2009, 09:16:02 AM
Like I said before - Sam cannot be serious with this thread.  He just looking for attention.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: MEP on August 05, 2009, 09:24:26 AM
you blocks you stones you worse than senseless things
oh you cruel men of Trinbago


Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 05, 2009, 09:25:14 AM
the preparations for this el salvador game are a joke.. men just basically flying in for a sweat and i dont see us winning, we will probably scrape through at best..

but to lay that at the feet of Latas ???

what a blasphemous thread!  :shameonyou:
me eint know what Sam on ,blaming latas for all this mess ,that start sense last year really .like if we dont make it is his fault . But latapy should have enough money from his playing days,to fly the team to Scotland doh.
Jack woulda call Guyana but they players still on strike I think ,they pres totally corrupt they say but that was jack partner so they allways is come ,nice that Latas in this for the long run doh.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2009, 09:35:29 AM
lets start a thread to fire Barack Obama.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: NUFF on August 05, 2009, 09:40:12 AM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  But, the lack of friendlies is the fault of the TTFF and no one else.  

I don't think it make sense changing coaches at this point.  Who will we replace Latapy with?

If Latapy was to get fired now it would be his own fault.  I said many times before he accepted the head coaching job that Latapy should have waited until this qualifying campaign was over to become the head coach.  If he had waited there would be less pressure and he could have built his program from scratch.  

I think whether we make it to SA or not Latapy should be kept as coach so he can start fresh and have time to build a team from scratch.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: spideybuff on August 05, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  

What wrong with the selections and tactics?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 10:37:15 AM
2 WCQ's - 1 @ home, 1 away - scored 3, allowed 5, ZERO POINTS

3 WCQ's - 1 @ home, 2 away - scored 3, allowed 6,  2 POINTS

Hmmm... 8)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 05, 2009, 10:40:48 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 10:43:59 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: jai john on August 05, 2009, 10:51:53 AM
.  

I think whether we make it to SA or not Latapy should be kept as coach so he can start fresh and have time to build a team from scratch.
[/quote]

...and this is based on ????
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
this is a waste of a thread......if we started this campaign with latapy at the helm, i know for sure we would've had more than 2 points right about now. we would've been in gold cup, bermuda would've been a breeze. allyuh too fast.

attacking football is what we do...we dont defend it's just not T&T. they score 1 we scoring 2,they score 2 ,we scoring 3. we have more than enough talent to do it.
wow @ this post...alyuh win yes...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: jai john on August 05, 2009, 10:54:42 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 05, 2009, 10:55:02 AM
.  

I think whether we make it to SA or not Latapy should be kept as coach so he can start fresh and have time to build a team from scratch.

...and this is based on ????
[/quote]

I would agree with u but i think us not signing a big name is like saying no SA if he had get the job after we fail to qualify woulda be so happy i just feel like we could give up on SA with him there... Want him to be there in the long run though...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 10:55:19 AM
Sam yuh making real sense, big men on this board like lil gyul. Stayingin the corner and only getting jam, at least yuh coming into the midle of the ring and throwing some punches.

Latapy eh do shyte, he eh change nothing, I even fear that we get worst.

Man talking about if you eh see the game, what is to see? This is not freaking savannah football, all that matters is results.

What we score a gainst CR? They walk past and score more than we, they weren't even ruffled CR.

What we scored against Mexico in Mexico, they hammered us into the ground. We had nothing going forward and we never sort out hem coming down we left side.

Those who saying we playing better, really eh watching and understanding this game.

We have no balance, all our investment is in our attack and our defense (if you want to call it that) is even more woeful than it was.

The game against St. Kitts men bawling good stuff. WTF....the game was pedestrian, even marsupial if you will. This is what we using to say Latapy have the team looking good :bs:

Talking about Latapy can only ask for games he cannot demand. Wat f@#*ries. He take the job and did not have a plan, is this what you all saying. Did he not negiotiate his terms for accepting the job or did he only do this for his Salary? Is Latapy a foreigner? He has been playing for T&T and dealing with the TTFF and JW for a billion years and you will stand there and tell me in my face that he naive about how they do things. Is he fault no warm up is being played who else to blame. Talking about staying to improve your records, such assinine talk. How you will win when you not preparing the team adequately? People on the outside looking in not seeing that the federation making them blunders, is the head Coach they watching for that. Even if the federation telling you we not making available avenues for you to improve the team, then by extension they sabotaging YOUR career. So don't talk about he being patient in building up he record, well then coavh and play for Caledonia.

This is the NATIONAL TEAM where the only thing that matters is results, positive results.

How many times has Holland won the WC?



Latapy doing SHYTE.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 05, 2009, 10:57:30 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???

watch nah palos, doh come wid dat stupidness like yuh doh know wat i talkin bout. d team has improved in their stlye of play. we are playin attackin football now.
granted we only have 2 points at the moment, the team has improved

latapy cud only work wid wat he have. allyuh gettin on like is some of d hottest ballers we have down here

if any other coach was to come in when latas did, we probably wuda been in d same position or worse off. we cyah blame latas dis rounds.

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Sam yuh making real sense, big men on this board like lil gyul. Stayingin the corner and only getting jam, at least yuh coming into the midle of the ring and throwing some punches.

Latapy eh do shyte, he eh change nothing, I even fear that we get worst.

Man talking about if you eh see the game, what is to see? This is not freaking savannah football, all that matters is results.

What we score a gainst CR? They walk past and score more than we, they weren't even ruffled CR.

What we scored against Mexico in Mexico, they hammered us into the ground. We had nothing going forward and we never sort out hem coming down we left side.

Those who saying we playing better, really eh watching and understanding this game.

We have no balance, all our investment is in our attack and our defense (if you want to call it that) is even more woeful than it was.

The game against St. Kitts men bawling good stuff. WTF....the game was pedestrian, even marsupial if you will. This is what we using to say Latapy have the team looking good :bs:

Talking about Latapy can only ask for games he cannot demand. Wat f@#*ries. He take the job and did not have a plan, is this what you all saying. Did he not negiotiate his terms for accepting the job or did he only do this for his Salary? Is Latapy a foreigner? He has been playing for T&T and dealing with the TTFF and JW for a billion years and you will stand there and tell me in my face that he naive about how they do things. Is he fault no warm up is being played who else to blame. Talking about staying to improve your records, such assinine talk. How you will win when you not preparing the team adequately? People on the outside looking in not seeing that the federation making them blunders, is the head Coach they watching for that. Even if the federation telling you we not making available avenues for you to improve the team, then by extension they sabotaging YOUR career. So don't talk about he being patient in building up he record, well then coavh and play for Caledonia.

This is the NATIONAL TEAM where the only thing that matters is results, positive results.

How many times has Holland won the WC?



Latapy doing SHYTE.

thank you saying it elan...i endorse this post 100%
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 11:00:34 AM
doh ever refer to Latas as "this fool of a coach". That kinda talk  will get u hurt in these parts.

If you knew anyting about football you would know that it isn't his responsibility to secure warm up games, that's up to the TTFF. All he can do is request them. If you remember he had a tour lined up in Scotland or someting so.

The brand we have played since he has been in charge is markedly better than before.
But honestly you have to be a fool to really think he can completely turn a program around with no funding and either over-the-hill or highly inexperienced players.

This isn't 4 years ago when Beenie had a viable Yorke, Latapy, Whitley. Stern to add to the team.

You need a dose of reality...and to get a clue

That is Oral diarrohea you just spew. The Head Coach presents to the the federation his preparation and what he needs to do to get the team ready. You think the USSF telling Bradley to go play the U-20s or one of the region team.They may not agree on all, but so far with Latapy they have not given any. That is Latapy fault. Alyuh talking real mess, and giving Latapy a Bligh. Talk about Waggonism at it's best. Jokers all of alyuh and we will only qualify for WCs by guess as long as there are "supporters" like you all. Calling for change conveniently.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: frico on August 05, 2009, 11:01:15 AM
Having friendlies is not absolutely necessary,as long as the players are playing games and keeping fit,most countries in Europe are playing WC on Wednesday but haven't played friendlies.Friendlies cost money too and we dont have plenty to share around.Check how many countries played friendlies inthe last week.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: NUFF on August 05, 2009, 11:01:33 AM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  

What wrong with the selections and tactics?

Selecting Marvin Andrews.  Dropping Keyeno Thomas.

Playing three central defenders against Mexico.

Colin Samuel scored against Costa Rica but Latapy did not play him against Mexico.  Instead he played Jorsling who gave away every ball that was passed to him.  Not bringing on Birchall for ah bun Dwight Yorke in de second half against Costa Rica.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 11:01:50 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???

watch nah palos, doh come wid dat stupidness like yuh doh know wat i talkin bout. d team has improved in their stlye of play. we are playin attackin football now.
granted we only have 2 points at the moment, the team has improved

latapy cud only work wid wat he have. allyuh gettin on like is some of d hottest ballers we have down here

if any other coach was to come in when latas did, we probably wuda been in d same position or worse off. we cyah blame latas dis rounds.




If any other coach was doing what latas was doing, you'd be calling for his head,...see Maturana and even Wim..back in the day he get rel pong on this board..

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 05, 2009, 11:05:52 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???

watch nah palos, doh come wid dat stupidness like yuh doh know wat i talkin bout. d team has improved in their stlye of play. we are playin attackin football now.
granted we only have 2 points at the moment, the team has improved

latapy cud only work wid wat he have. allyuh gettin on like is some of d hottest ballers we have down here

if any other coach was to come in when latas did, we probably wuda been in d same position or worse off. we cyah blame latas dis rounds.




If any other coach was doing what latas was doing, you'd be calling for his head,...see Maturana and even Wim..back in the day he get rel pong on this board..



padnah... d majority of d ppl on dis board actually gave pacho A CHANCE to see wat dey cud do before we start to pong dem. mankind callin 4 latas head after 3 GAMES!!!
lewwe doh be hypocrites nah!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 05, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
Having friendlies is not absolutely necessary,as long as the players are playing games and keeping fit,most countries in Europe are playing WC on Wednesday but haven't played friendlies.Friendlies cost money too and we dont have plenty to share around.Check how many countries played friendlies inthe last week.

Friendlies is very important for team chemistry and to fix errors that may occur during a game instead of it happening in a match that counts like a WCQ game... And look how many teams gone be playing friendlies by August 12th even Jamaica who been having money problems playing friendly and we T&T can't get a decent friendly there is no excuses for that...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: jai john on August 05, 2009, 11:12:43 AM

If any other coach was doing what latas was doing, you'd be calling for his head,...see Maturana and even Wim..back in the day he get rel pong on this board..


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you kyah say dat here ...Latas can do no wrong ....he may not do right but he can do no wrong ...I give up asking one question .....if it was ...../... doing the same thing Latas doing what would your response have been ...man making all kinda samba moves around dat one ...lets sees if you have better luck ...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 11:13:55 AM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  

What wrong with the selections and tactics?

Selecting Marvin Andrews.  Dropping Keyeno Thomas.

Playing three central defenders against Mexico.

Colin Samuel scored against Costa Rica but Latapy did not play him against Mexico.  Instead he played Jorsling who gave away every ball that was passed to him.  Not bringing on Birchall for ah bun Dwight Yorke in de second half against Costa Rica.

Not to mention callin up Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews to de team.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 11:20:33 AM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  

What wrong with the selections and tactics?

See this post

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=44611.msg579734#msg579734
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 05, 2009, 11:25:09 AM
BM HERE

is true.... fire Latapy

Trinidad and Tobago dont deserve Russell Latapy.... but allyuh want Zamora
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 05, 2009, 11:27:03 AM
With the exception one player I have no problem with Latapy's selection so far.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 11:28:38 AM
BM HERE

is true.... fire Latapy

Trinidad and Tobago dont deserve Russell Latapy.... but allyuh want Zamora

lol..let it be clear..i don't want latapy fired..i believe he should be kept...however this board has to stop deluding itself with what is happening with the team...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on August 05, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Steups...

I was forced to endure Maturana and he Corbeaux Brand for over 1 year......I'm sure I can endure anything Latapy throws at me....leave him right dey!!!...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 11:38:15 AM
doh ever refer to Latas as "this fool of a coach". That kinda talk  will get u hurt in these parts.

If you knew anyting about football you would know that it isn't his responsibility to secure warm up games, that's up to the TTFF. All he can do is request them. If you remember he had a tour lined up in Scotland or someting so.

The brand we have played since he has been in charge is markedly better than before.
But honestly you have to be a fool to really think he can completely turn a program around with no funding and either over-the-hill or highly inexperienced players.

This isn't 4 years ago when Beenie had a viable Yorke, Latapy, Whitley. Stern to add to the team.

You need a dose of reality...and to get a clue

That is Oral diarrohea you just spew. The Head Coach presents to the the federation his preparation and what he needs to do to get the team ready. You think the USSF telling Bradley to go play the U-20s or one of the region team.They may not agree on all, but so far with Latapy they have not given any. That is Latapy fault. Alyuh talking real mess, and giving Latapy a Bligh. Talk about Waggonism at it's best. Jokers all of alyuh and we will only qualify for WCs by guess as long as there are "supporters" like you all. Calling for change conveniently.


y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kicker on August 05, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
Give him time.  

We too shortsighted, but we only criticize it when we're not guilty of it ourselves.

We field a squad of average to less than average players some of whom play at a level well below the highest level, many of whom are past their best and we want to have a first class product on the field. 

We qualified for one world cup and we feeling entitled to everyone thereafter...it's not realistic especially considering that no improvements have been made to our program since...It's the same show (if not worse) that's has been run every other time we've failed on the International stage (sometimes with better talent than the present)....

Beenie was the anomaly- get over it.  
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
This is probably the worst talent pool we've had in the last 20 years. Not even probably nah, DEFINITELY.
I know the man is the Magician but y'all expecting miracles.

After reading the set a DOTISHNESS in this thread I am really shocked. Esp coming from man like Palos who I thought was rational.

D man callin up ppl because the current crop clearly eh good enough. Everybody suddenly on the Tinto bandwagon, where was he when Pacho was the coach?

LOUD STEUPS!


Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: NUFF on August 05, 2009, 11:46:29 AM
How could people watch that Mexico game and say we inprove.  Mexico shredded our defense at will.  We lucky Mexico's finishing was terrible on the night.  We should have collected about six goals easily.

As for the Costa Rica game I don't think we played much better than we did in the first game against El Salvador and we gave up one more goal.

We also Gave up two goals to St Kitts.

I can't call fuh ah coach to be fired after just three games.  That would be making a decision on emotion not on reason.  But I don't see the big improvement some people talking about.

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 05, 2009, 11:46:58 AM
doh ever refer to Latas as "this fool of a coach". That kinda talk  will get u hurt in these parts.

If you knew anyting about football you would know that it isn't his responsibility to secure warm up games, that's up to the TTFF. All he can do is request them. If you remember he had a tour lined up in Scotland or someting so.

The brand we have played since he has been in charge is markedly better than before.
But honestly you have to be a fool to really think he can completely turn a program around with no funding and either over-the-hill or highly inexperienced players.

This isn't 4 years ago when Beenie had a viable Yorke, Latapy, Whitley. Stern to add to the team.

You need a dose of reality...and to get a clue

That is Oral diarrohea you just spew. The Head Coach presents to the the federation his preparation and what he needs to do to get the team ready. You think the USSF telling Bradley to go play the U-20s or one of the region team.They may not agree on all, but so far with Latapy they have not given any. That is Latapy fault. Alyuh talking real mess, and giving Latapy a Bligh. Talk about Waggonism at it's best. Jokers all of alyuh and we will only qualify for WCs by guess as long as there are "supporters" like you all. Calling for change conveniently.


y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

The amount of nonsense we play in that El Salvador game. I am still trying to figure out how we managed to scoretwice in that game. Oh sorry Stern missed a penalty so its his fault we didn't win. And against the US steups. They put a mediocre CB (Hislop) to play RB. I almost laugh when the commentator say "Again, I would continue to attack down that side)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: GunnerStunner on August 05, 2009, 11:47:35 AM
giving him time simply means we have given up anyhope of making it to south africa next year

i am still disgusted that we were the ONLY team out of the 6 NOT in the gold cup ALL our competition got valuable experience and match fitness in those games, as for USA they have an A and B squad that still gets to semis and finals, and we still cry down thier side

if only our TTFF was half as organised and forward thinking as the americans
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 11:48:09 AM
ZERO POINTS from 2 games.

Dat is all.

Wit de new recruits aka Zamora and J Lloyd...there will be no excuses.

The team will be stronger in personnel than ever before.

Let's see what happens on August 12th.

Can coach Latas earn his first WCQ point...at home no less?  Armed with 2 powerful, experienced, and seasoned professionals in the ranks?  

Oh yeah...and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews to boot.  We cyah lorse!  SA here we come!!  8)

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
Allyuh 640x480 men wasn't paying attention or what ? Look at the level of shit the team was playing. There was a marked improvement in my view. The fact is a couple of mistakes avoided against CR and we would be on 5 points today. In any case we're not , move on.

Fire Latapy to do what ? Steups, gimme a chance eh ! I feel some people don't understand the pain we went through with the Colombian and Corneal. The team is actually playing better football now. Allyuh getting tie up yes.

bredder, uh take d words rite out of my mouth.

everybody on dis board entitled to dey own opinion, but sam dis is a real phoq up thread. u lookin to fire d man after 3 games, and even doh d team has noticebly improved. STEUPS!!

Noticeably improved with ZERO POINTS?  ???

when you start acting like a big man and state your opinion, rather than throwing out ah setta rhetorical question and baiting man here and there then i go take you serious...

until then.. moving along!!

by the way, Latas tactics were spot on for Costa Rica, we lost because of an uncharacteristic defensive blunder by Tallest and because of Dog's immobility.. We was never going and win shit in Mexico!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 11:51:55 AM
I eh know if I breaking some kinda news here, but SA was a longshot even before Latas took the job.

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 05, 2009, 11:58:39 AM
Give him time.  

We too shortsighted, but we only criticize it when we're not guilty of it ourselves.

We qualified for one world cup and we feeling entitled to everyone thereafter...it's not realistic especially considering that no improvements have been made to our program since...It's the same show (if not worse) that's has been run every other time we've failed on the International stage (sometimes with better talent than the present)....

Beenie was the anomaly- get over it.  

many fail to realize dat beenie would have failed......... yes would have failed if Latapy hadn't sparked life back into the campaign, yes we had shown improvement before dat but d performances were mediocre at best, it doesn't mean dat latas should share no responsibilty for d present situation, but come dung on d man after three games, an' Palos wit he veiled inference dat Maturana's work was any good, pure luck dat was nothin else
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 05, 2009, 11:58:54 AM
y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 05, 2009, 12:07:38 PM
LOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDD
STEUPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 05, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  
Watch that game again.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 12:13:13 PM
y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  
Watch that game again.
I'd advise you to do the same eh jah gol..the man din lie..we play rel good ball till stern come off that day..
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: KND2 on August 05, 2009, 12:13:57 PM
Latapy should keep this job for the next 5 years.

Depending on results during 2014 world cup qualification his status should be addressed. until then we should beg him to stay irregardless of current results reasons why.

1) He is a Trinidadian; At some point you have to promote your own.

2) He has good coaching experience at a Professional level. The 2 years he coached in Scotland EPL is key, who else we getting with that type of experience.

3) His style of play suits Trinidadian mentality, Overall most people were happy the side play good versus Costa Rica,  even though we lost, the fans were " Satisfied" that things on the right road. We need to bring fans back into the TnT game the only way to do this is play the pretty game. Who better to do this that Latapy the biggest fan drawer in TnT football history. When latapy playing the statdium does sell out. Men come out because they want to see beat.  

4) He understands the TTFF, having played for them for 10 years he know what to expect. The average big name professional cannot deal with Jack and them if the promise of world cup is not clear. Men like beenie not coming to toil 4 years to make a world cup, but they will take the work to coach 6 games and win 9 points.

5) We owe him for all the years he give to we football, The least we could do is give him the opportunity to get coaching experience and improve himself. Let us not forget if latapy did not come back we would never beat Guatemala to make 2006 W C.

I cannot believe men talking bout results and results.

Latapy is the man to coach the team in 4 years you will see how good they playing.

He will find the right men and create the right environment.

Watch and see.

and if we get luckly we go be in the running for 3rd or 4th in the hex.

Hold tight and stop talking shit.  
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kicker on August 05, 2009, 12:23:20 PM

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  

When we were up 2-0 against E.S. the scoreline flattered us. 

It was more than just a 20 min breakdown, and 10-15 minutes of horrendous defending...And even if it is what you say, a 20 min breakdown and 15 mins of horrendous defending qualifies as a poor performance, all else being equal. 

Considering that the game was on away soil, there wasn't a whole lot of grounds for complaints...because sometimes yuh just have to grind them out, especially on the road...But we played poorly- no sugar coating that one. 

That said, nothing I've seen from Latas thus far would indicate a higher level of football under his watch under those conditions...but I also think it's too early to tell what he's capable of....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on August 05, 2009, 12:24:20 PM
y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  
Watch that game again.
I'd advise you to do the same eh jah gol..the man din lie..we play rel good ball till stern come off that day..
Allyuh mad yes. The keeper put the ball on the goal  and we got a REAL soft penalty. Our best part in the game was in the first 20 minutes of the second half when we had ELS on the counter. True Stern shoulda stay on because none of them men could hold the ball like him but we play real mess that game. The scoreline was really deceptive.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 12:29:00 PM
y'all are really clueless if you think any other coach was getting results against Mexico in Azteca and Costa Rica.
Like y'all forget the level of pure sh*t we play against El Salvador and the US? My you have short memories.

TNT's problem is an infrastructure problem.

But it really doesn't make sense even arguing this point because some of you on here seem to think that having a different coach would have changed our results.

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  
Watch that game again.
I'd advise you to do the same eh jah gol..the man din lie..we play rel good ball till stern come off that day..
Allyuh mad yes. The keeper put the ball on the goal  and we got a REAL soft penalty. Our best part in the game was in the first 20 minutes of the second half when we had ELS on the counter. True Stern shoulda stay on because none of them men could hold the ball like him but we play real mess that game. The scoreline was really deceptive.

hoss i eh go lie..i rel rel rel thought the exact same way hoss until a bredrin show me that game again...buh seriously watch that game over..we played a lot better than u even kno...iserious..
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 12:29:58 PM
Don't get me wrong, I vote give him time. That however, does not absolve him from the tata he doing right now.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 12:32:57 PM
And what about d DAM USA GAME??????

That was a complete embarrassment on all levels
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on August 05, 2009, 12:36:24 PM
Sam if yuh want to knock Latapy fuh he selections and tactics then I go back yuh 100%.  But, the lack of friendlies is the fault of the TTFF and no one else.  

I don't think it make sense changing coaches at this point.  Who will we replace Latapy with?

If Latapy was to get fired now it would be his own fault.  I said many times before he accepted the head coaching job that Latapy should have waited until this qualifying campaign was over to become the head coach.  If he had waited there would be less pressure and he could have built his program from scratch.  

I think whether we make it to SA or not Latapy should be kept as coach so he can start fresh and have time to build a team from scratch.
I totally agree with every solitary word yuh said my yute, yuh preach dey bredder!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
Give him time.  

We too shortsighted, but we only criticize it when we're not guilty of it ourselves.

We field a squad of average to less than average players some of whom play at a level well below the highest level, many of whom are past their best and we want to have a first class product on the field. 

We qualified for one world cup and we feeling entitled to everyone thereafter...it's not realistic especially considering that no improvements have been made to our program since...It's the same show (if not worse) that's has been run every other time we've failed on the International stage (sometimes with better talent than the present)....

Beenie was the anomaly- get over it.  

this is the truth here
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Arazi on August 05, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

best post in the thread so far...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 05, 2009, 12:39:42 PM

Buh ent daiz de argument many used against Maturana?  And what shit in ES yuh talking about?  The team broke down at around the 70min marker, with almost every player looking lethargic all at once.  The defense in the last 10-15 minutes was absolutely horrendous but apart from that the team didn't look nearly half as bad as you making that result seem.  Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!  

When we were up 2-0 against E.S. the scoreline flattered us. 

It was more than just a 20 min breakdown, and 10-15 minutes of horrendous defending...And even if it is what you say, a 20 min breakdown and 15 mins of horrendous defending qualifies as a poor performance, all else being equal. 

Considering that the game was on away soil, there wasn't a whole lot of grounds for complaints...because sometimes yuh just have to grind them out, especially on the road...But we played poorly- no sugar coating that one. 

That said, nothing I've seen from Latas thus far would indicate a higher level of football under his watch under those conditions...but I also think it's too early to tell what he's capable of....

You didn't truly watch that game boss, you think you watched but you didn't.  The team actually played much better than you and others want to give credit for.  More importantly we rescued a point, yet that in many eyes was a poor team game.  All of that leads up to those arguing about the better brand under latapy that has netted us 0 points thus far and me concluding "Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!"

Marcos since 89 our history is littered with assish losses to the US so if you using that then almost every coach before Maturana was just as much shit no?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 05, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: #4 on August 05, 2009, 01:07:57 PM
I eh know if I breaking some kinda news here, but SA was a longshot even before Latas took the job.


Thank You!!! We all forget that unlike all the other teams in CONCACAF, a realistic push to qualify for 2010 was nowhere to be found before the ES game. Teams like USA and Costa Rica have probably been prepping for this hex for the last 7 years, but we haven't even realistically pushed for it for 7 months yet. Latas is like the Warriors' Barack Obama- and Jack, Mats, Corneal, and all the others are like GW Bush. Latas has plenty of other people's mess to clean up, and very, very little time before the people get restless and start complaining when they don't see immediate results.

Be patient with Latas nah- he's been thrown into the fire, and he at least deserves a shot at the Digicel and Gold Cup as coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Fantastic on August 05, 2009, 01:11:14 PM
Cacahole thread at best.  Ah woulda listen ah little more intently if de critics mention defensive roles and organization as key problems and question how Latas gonna fix that. The questions about preparation and bringing in foreign based players early and all that is pure tata. Yuh know FIFA have they regulations....we have a bunch of men fighting for starting roles or even bench roles on dey foreign teams...but we talking bout bringing men home early. From what I see the players did try to play a lil bit more possession and roll de ball around in de Costa Rica game. De Mexico game was a test..Mexico was desperate and at home in de Azteca and it hard to see what we could have done dey. We never get dem points in Mexico before, even though we looked better in a game under Beenie there before. Let de man do he wuk and allyuh question Ollie Camps and dem bout facking friendlies. Allyuh have info about what Latas request or any details of TTFF communications? This thread is real shit!!!!! I have confidence Latas will have we playing some nicer looking football and scoring more goals eventually.....my doubts are if he could improve our positional play defensively and make dem players respect their roles and show discipline in being where dey supposed to be, and do what dey supposed to defensively.  Instead of biding time and voicing opinions and concerns, man pretending dey know de whole story and coming with bullshit like this. Sam, yuh real slacking dread...ah go stop laughing at all yuh dotish joke and dem >:( >:(
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 01:12:55 PM
Nobody realistically torkin bout qualifyin fuh SA even though it's still mathematically possible.

What people studyin is if Latas could get even 1 point with 3 home games out of 5 to come with this new and improved squad featuring Bobby Zamora, J Lloyd Samuel, and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kicker on August 05, 2009, 01:13:37 PM
You didn't truly watch that game boss, you think you watched but you didn't.  The team actually played much better than you and others want to give credit for.  More importantly we rescued a point, yet that in many eyes was a poor team game.  All of that leads up to those arguing about the better brand under latapy that has netted us 0 points thus far and me concluding "Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!"

Glass half empty or glass half full?  Did we rescue a point, or did we let 2 points slip away? All based on perspective I suppose.  And regardless of the perspective, rescuing a point doesn't qualify a performance as good in my opinion.

I'm not comparing Maturana and Latas in terms of the brand of football.  The level of T&T football is and has been for a long time (if not forever) far away from what I would hope it would be....and the brand has always been scrappy and amateurish. I'm not gonna split hairs about whether we strung 3 passes together under Maturana but 4 under Latapy- it's useless.

My point is that the game we played in El Salvador was pretty shabby, and on another day we could have lost as easily as we could have won (or tied)...

As far as Latapy goes, I say give him a fair shot- forget qualifying for SA...If we do, it's a bonus, but in all honesty we haven't shown that we deserve to be there...we're languishing at the bottom of the table of one of the weakest federations in the world.  Let's give the coach a fair shot- so far he hasn't had one.  
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: madness on August 05, 2009, 01:21:56 PM
coahing trinidad & tobago national is difficult. we need to give latas time with team. ttff funds r low. they don't have a budget. remember latas was planning to go to scotland and it did'nt went thru. so we need to know about the administration of ttff.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 05, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
You didn't truly watch that game boss, you think you watched but you didn't.  The team actually played much better than you and others want to give credit for.  More importantly we rescued a point, yet that in many eyes was a poor team game.  All of that leads up to those arguing about the better brand under latapy that has netted us 0 points thus far and me concluding "Funny how you using that against Maturana but others shouldn't hold the CR game against Latas ent?!"

Glass half empty or glass half full?  Did we rescue a point, or did we let 2 points slip away? All based on perspective I suppose.  And regardless of the perspective, rescuing a point doesn't qualify a performance as good in my opinion.

I'm not comparing Maturana and Latas in terms of the brand of football.  The level of T&T football is and has been for a long time (if not forever) far away from what I would hope it would be....and the brand has always been scrappy and amateurish. I'm not gonna split hairs about whether we strung 3 passes together under Maturana but 4 under Latapy- it's useless.

My point is that the game we played in El Salvador was pretty shabby, and on another day we could have lost as easily as we could have won (or tied)...

As far as Latapy goes, I say give him a fair shot- forget qualifying for SA...If we do, it's a bonus, but in all honesty we haven't shown that we deserve to be there...we're languishing at the bottom of the table of one of the weakest federations in the world.  Let's give the coach a fair shot- so far he hasn't had one.  

I say give him time as well but I not on this we lookin better bullshit train.  Get points from this improvement and make me a believer.  I didn't think Mats was best suited for us but he still managed wins and points.  Far too often we overate the quality of our football and expect our warriors to decimate all opponents, prblem with that is those teams don't rate us so they playin to cut we ass.  Naturally we will falter especially defensively and they take advantage.  Despite our delusions we are where we should be based on overall talent, drive and tactical approach.  Beenie made us overachieve and all of a sudden people act as if that's the standard.  I would hope we would improve but our constant dependence on football's equivalent of dinosaurs (Yorke, Latas, Dog, Tallest) is evidence enough of digression.  I think most want to give Latas time but not interested in hearing excuses being made for him and the lack of points from WCQs
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on August 05, 2009, 01:35:41 PM
Marcos since 89 our history is littered with assish losses to the US so if you using that then almost every coach before Maturana was just as much shit no?

But horse I agree wit dat
With the exception of Beenie, when we put up a good effort with 10 men in the US.

We eh have no good coach really

Vranes..no
Porters..hell no
Bertille..i like him but seriously no
beenie..big yes
Wim..eh get a chance
Mats..no
Latas..too early to tell
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 01:42:04 PM
We eh have no good coach really

How de players?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on August 05, 2009, 01:48:38 PM
So omar you just came to that conclusion we eh going no WC ?

i've been tellin allyuh that for months now, jack eh putting no mo money into this campaign, he just riding it out with latas as head coach.

if jack was serious bout this campaign then we woulda hire ah big name coach since november.

he was just out there , if we make it then we make it , and if we don't, then fack it!

i like latas believe it or not, the team improved tremendously under him,we were utter shyte under pancho!

 we were just unlucky not to get ah point especially in tobago thanx to lawrence and dog, but i think we showed tremendous improvement.

as for mexico ? latas made ah big mistake by picking fellas like jorslin and bakar who could'nt help his cause,  when he shoulda been pickin fellas like james roberts and nigel daniel,

them fellas would've been good replacements for avery lawrence scotty/glenn. to me that was his only mistakes, he underestemated and didn't cater for the injuries and suspensions.

i believe if we went with kenyo instead of baker and dog ,things coulda went differantly.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Observer on August 05, 2009, 02:09:00 PM
Don't know why this thread even exist. No respect!

With what Latas was given and has at his disposal, Capello, with Ferguson as his assistant and Mourinho as technical advisor would not have achieved anything different.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Ngozi on August 05, 2009, 02:35:16 PM
What is this thread here for ?....shit !
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
we were just unlucky not to get ah point especially in tobago thanx to lawrence and dog, but i think we showed tremendous improvement.

Tremendous improvement?

Every time CR chose to attack us they looked like they would score.

Same for Mexico

That is "improvement"?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on August 05, 2009, 03:04:24 PM
The last time TnT play some real football was against Paraguay.... other than that the team has been on a steady decline...! It doh matter who we import... we cut arse book against CR and USA... :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Preacher on August 05, 2009, 03:26:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlgD6JH2Jg

Somebody will Beat Us

Latapy!................................The Fans had a questiooooooooooon
About yuh performance....................on this campaign
Yorke workin........NO!
Dennis  workin.....NO!
Yuh wicked....NO!
Yuh schupid.....NO!

We going to beat... really really bad boy
We going to beat....really really bad boy

You say that ready
We ain't play no friendly
Some ain't wukkin noway
Dem don't have a payday

Yuh think is so......thing does work
You think is so......I wish you LUCK

Next week Wednesday we beat Salvador and start feeling luckkkkkkkkkyyyyy
But take advice without friendless
We won't get lucky twice.

Somebody will beat us, you better believe me
Somebody will beat us, ah hope you could take it pardner.

 ;D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Corbeaux on August 05, 2009, 03:31:36 PM
Latapy never get a proper chance wit d squad in terms of gellin and allyuh want to axe him already? Afta wednesday's match we wud kno if we still in it or not and we can't find a replacement in less dan a week newayz so he have until d ress of d hex 2 prove himself witch he probably would.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 03:39:15 PM
BM HERE

is true.... fire Latapy

Trinidad and Tobago dont deserve Russell Latapy.... but allyuh want Zamora

 ::)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: big dawg on August 05, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
The last time TnT play some real football was against Paraguay....

you ehh see de game against Dominican Republic ?!?   ;D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 04:02:52 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 05, 2009, 04:13:51 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
oh lawd have mercy ,you and your man crush ...what did it for you ,was the afro wasnt it  ;D

sheilds up.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 04:23:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlgD6JH2Jg

Somebody will Beat Us

Latapy!................................The Fans had a questiooooooooooon
About yuh performance....................on this campaign
Yorke workin........NO!
Dennis  workin.....NO!
Yuh wicked....NO!
Yuh schupid.....NO!

We going to beat... really really bad boy
We going to beat....really really bad boy

You say that ready
We ain't play no friendly
Some ain't wukkin noway
Dem don't have a payday

Yuh think is so......thing does work
You think is so......I wish you LUCK

Next week Wednesday we beat Salvador and start feeling luckkkkkkkkkyyyyy
But take advice without friendless
We won't get lucky twice.

Somebody will beat us, you better believe me
Somebody will beat us, ah hope you could take it pardner.

 ;D


Nice remix dey Preacher!  8)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 04:34:16 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!   8)

I will thank God for Maturana as much as BM will thanks him for Zamora!  :devil:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Preacher on August 05, 2009, 04:36:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlgD6JH2Jg

Somebody will Beat Us

Latapy!................................The Fans had a questiooooooooooon
About yuh performance....................on this campaign
Yorke workin........NO!
Dennis  workin.....NO!
Yuh wicked....NO!
Yuh schupid.....NO!

We going to beat... really really bad boy
We going to beat....really really bad boy

You say that ready
We ain't play no friendly
Some ain't wukkin noway
Dem don't have a payday

Yuh think is so......thing does work
You think is so......I wish you LUCK

Next week Wednesday we beat Salvador and start feeling luckkkkkkkkkyyyyy
But take advice without friendless
We won't get lucky twice.

Somebody will beat us, you better believe me
Somebody will beat us, ah hope you could take it pardner.

 ;D


Nice remix dey Preacher!  8)

Ah leave the part that asks if he's a magician.  ;D  Truth be told if any body could get this team fired up is Latas so we hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 05, 2009, 04:36:23 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
oh lawd have mercy ,you and your man crush ...what did it for you ,was the afro wasnt it  ;D

sheilds up.

No crush.  Certainly not on any man.

I like results more than anything else.

Given de "player strike", de unavailability of our so called best players for long periods, de PFL politics, Jack Warner, Scamps, TTFF, Corneals, players who eh ready fuh International competition etc and more.....IMO Maturana performed the footballing equivalent of walking on water and turning water into wine COMBINED by gettin we to de Hex and earnin 2 points from we fuss 3 matches.

Latas supposed to be we saviour.  We allegedly playing "tremendously improved" football that hasn't as yet translated into a result in a results based industry.  

We have now strengthened our team with the additons of Bobby Zamora, J Lloyd Samuel, and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews.  With Latas as coach and these new and improved additions, the USA, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica and El Salvador are trembling in their collective boots with fear.

SA here were come!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
oh lawd have mercy ,you and your man crush ...what did it for you ,was the afro wasnt it  ;D

sheilds up.

No crush.  Certainly not on any man.

I like results more than anything else.

Given de "player strike", de unavailability of our so called best players for long periods, de PFL politics, Jack Warner, Scamps, TTFF, Corneals, players who eh ready fuh International competition etc and more.....IMO Maturana performed the footballing equivalent of walking on water and turning water into wine COMBINED by gettin we to de Hex and earnin 2 points from we fuss 3 matches.

Latas supposed to be we saviour.  We allegedly playing "tremendously improved" football that hasn't as yet translated into a result in a results based industry.  

We have now strengthened our team with the additons of Bobby Zamora, J Lloyd Samuel, and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews.  With Latas as coach and these new and improved additions, the USA, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica and El Salvador are trembling in their collective boots with fear.

SA here were come!

 :mackdaddy:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 05:00:59 PM
Don't know why this thread even exist. No respect!

With what Latas was given and has at his disposal, Capello, with Ferguson as his assistant and Mourinho as technical advisor would not have achieved anything different.

Latapy could pick "anyone" he wanted, Wim and Maturana could not.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: davidephraim on August 05, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
oh lawd have mercy ,you and your man crush ...what did it for you ,was the afro wasnt it  ;D

sheilds up.

man crush. If ever this was used correctly it would be here. Palos cya say nothing bad bout Mats.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 05:02:51 PM
The last time TnT play some real football was against Paraguay....

you ehh see de game against Dominican Republic ?!?   ;D
What kinda supporters alyuh is, you eh see the game vs St. Kitts las mont or wha.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on August 05, 2009, 05:34:50 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on August 05, 2009, 05:35:37 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:
I go have to agree on this one
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dspfootballer on August 05, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
It premature to fire Latapy at this stage.  Our player need to execute good quality of play, there are numerious mistakes on the field.  Latas need at least until the end of Hex for full evaluation.

Regards
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 05, 2009, 06:32:06 PM
Don't know why this thread even exist. No respect!

With what Latas was given and has at his disposal, Capello, with Ferguson as his assistant and Mourinho as technical advisor would not have achieved anything different.

Latapy could pick "anyone" he wanted, Wim and Maturana could not.

U believe dat
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 05, 2009, 06:58:49 PM
Don't know why this thread even exist. No respect!

With what Latas was given and has at his disposal, Capello, with Ferguson as his assistant and Mourinho as technical advisor would not have achieved anything different.

Latapy could pick "anyone" he wanted, Wim and Maturana could not.

U believe dat

elan, where u get dat information? apparently u does move wid latas 24/7
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on August 05, 2009, 07:20:27 PM
When i first saw the lineup that walked out against Costa Rica, I was scratching my head. A lineup without a left sided midfielder, basically sacrificing that flank for 3 mids in Yorke, Noel and Spann. But at halftime, it was clear that this was a tactical ploy. Latas did his homework and figure out that they posed a serious threat coming down our right side and line us up to neutralize that and it worked like a charm.

Carlos at right back and Tinto on the wing, was for all intent and purposes the masterstroke we've all been calling for a long time.

My point about this whole selection thing is that no coach is infallible. No coach will pick a team that will make us all happy. For all the talk about Beenie, in the midst of all the euphoria we seem to forget that the teams he put out in the World cup games begged many a question. Theobald starting all the games in particular, no Latapy, no start for Whitley.. Evans Wise...

Even the Cornell Glen sub in the 2nd half against Sweden that we lauded as a masterstroke; if one of their goal attempts went in we wouldve called him a madman.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We shitty!! We scraped through to the hex. Our defence is some old men, we have no wing backs and the 3 men who hold our only hope, (Yorke, Stern, Latas) were on the brink of being over the hill in 2006... This is 2009..

CONCACAF has progressed and we have remained stagnant. We are not going to South Africa.

I agree with everything yuh say besides the last sentence as my policy is "Never say yuh dead until yuh dead!"

So until we disappointingly lose or draw the game on Wednesday I singing Machel tune "We Not Giving Up!"

If we win on Wednesday then as far as I am concerned we still have a fighting chance of going South Africa because God is ah Trini!  ;)

Ah hope yuh sayin thank GOD fuh Maturana seein is he de one fdat give yuh yuh ONLY 2 POINTS of dis WCQ campaign thus far!  8)
oh lawd have mercy ,you and your man crush ...what did it for you ,was the afro wasnt it  ;D

sheilds up.

No crush.  Certainly not on any man.

I like results more than anything else.

Given de "player strike", de unavailability of our so called best players for long periods, de PFL politics, Jack Warner, Scamps, TTFF, Corneals, players who eh ready fuh International competition etc and more.....IMO Maturana performed the footballing equivalent of walking on water and turning water into wine COMBINED by gettin we to de Hex and earnin 2 points from we fuss 3 matches.

Latas supposed to be we saviour.  We allegedly playing "tremendously improved" football that hasn't as yet translated into a result in a results based industry.  

We have now strengthened our team with the additons of Bobby Zamora, J Lloyd Samuel, and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews.  With Latas as coach and these new and improved additions, the USA, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica and El Salvador are trembling in their collective boots with fear.

SA here were come!

Steups....we will never know for sure but I somehow feel we were going to lose against CR and Mexico even if the great Afro was still in charge...is friggin CR and MEXICO we were up against!!!!! especially after that idiot Maturana leave we team in shambles with he dotish Corbeaux Brand....(although genius at times because opposing sides were just as confused as we were....)

Mih eh know why you Palos keep harping on that goat....you sounding like you real missing the Afro......not me let him stay where he is...and let Latapy stay right here.....it real unfair to Latapy, the footballers, the fans that we F-Up administration have we in this position (AGAIN!!)) and Latapy must shoulder the blame nah.....if he was in the position for a while (like the Afroed one nah) them I might be in a better position to pass mih mouth on him but nah...not now....after CR and Mexico nah!!...

Latapy you try yuh best eh boy and forget dem....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 05, 2009, 08:20:34 PM
No crush.  Certainly not on any man.

I like results more than anything else.

Given de "player strike", de unavailability of our so called best players for long periods, de PFL politics, Jack Warner, Scamps, TTFF, Corneals, players who eh ready fuh International competition etc and more.....IMO Maturana performed the footballing equivalent of walking on water and turning water into wine COMBINED by gettin we to de Hex and earnin 2 points from we fuss 3 matches.

Latas supposed to be we saviour.  We allegedly playing "tremendously improved" football that hasn't as yet translated into a result in a results based industry.  

We have now strengthened our team with the additons of Bobby Zamora, J Lloyd Samuel, and Lyndon "Chubby" Andrews.  With Latas as coach and these new and improved additions, the USA, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica and El Salvador are trembling in their collective boots with fear.

SA here were come!

This from the same man who was crying a river of tears and start a thread "Go Bermuda!!" when Maturana had us scrambling to beat a side of pot belly part timers..

now he is the saviour that turned water into wine..

how quickly they forget.

me thinks you talketh with a forked tongue.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 05, 2009, 10:30:34 PM
gIVE THE JOB TO mR bOBBY zAMORA...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2009, 10:38:56 PM
gIVE THE JOB TO mR bOBBY zAMORA...

Yuh hate the man that much BM? Like yuh want Sam destroy him?!! 8)

Btw folks if we look at the poll so far (at the time that I have made this post), 76 forumites have voted and only 3 have voted "Yes" for firing the Magician.

I hope Sam now realise that this thread was rather impulsive of him at this early stage (after just 2 WCQ games).

Who we go replace RL with anyway that can do better under current circumstances?

Btw Palos please I don't need an answer from you as if I hear you call the Cobo's name one more time I will have to rebrand you as the official forum  :joker:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 05, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
Don't know why this thread even exist. No respect!

With what Latas was given and has at his disposal, Capello, with Ferguson as his assistant and Mourinho as technical advisor would not have achieved anything different.

Latapy could pick "anyone" he wanted, Wim and Maturana could not.

U believe dat

elan, where u get dat information? apparently u does move wid latas 24/7

Since Latas on the scene is only two men eh play for T&T and that's since he assisting. You go tell me he cyah call who he want. Name players that he cannot call nah. The most you coming up with is two. I challenge you.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: College on August 06, 2009, 02:15:37 AM
6 days before a WCQ and this is the kinda thread ah reading....

We is Warriors?

Ah with BM on one thing ...we dont deserve Latas as a coach.
It take strange white men in far away countries to recognize and celebrate what we 
here take for granted :(.

IMHO, taking  into consideration our progression thru the hex and all the goings on with the TTFF etc, to call for this coach to be fired is totally and utterly ridiculous....

Everyone entitled to dey own onion but damn!!... lord, put ah hand. :praying:
 

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: sjahrain on August 06, 2009, 03:54:14 AM
Fire the Special Adviser......Have the entire TTFF staff resign

Leave the COACH alone.....and thats final

Rapect
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dspfootballer on August 06, 2009, 04:18:17 AM
SAM, needs to get a RED CARD for a long time suspension for hateful posting. 
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Socapro on August 06, 2009, 05:46:36 AM
Since he have been coach he has not impress and is the only coach who never seems to get or play any warm up games.

With 2 lost (Mexico & Costa Rica), 1 win (St Kitts) and a tie (U-20 team).

Imagine, we have 7 days to go and we dont have a full team in training.

Imagine we have not play a competitive match in months.

Lets not forget his buddy Dwight Yorke who chasing women all over the globe is not even interested anymore. No clubs, he unfit and he is captain, he dont get sub and he is a sure pick.

I believe Jack Warner and the TTFF throw in the towel long time and if this is the case, leave Latapy as coach.

But if we really serious about going South Africa then we in real trouble.

Hayden Tinto in not the answer. We need team work and proper preparation.

SAM, needs to get a RED CARD for a long time suspension for hateful posting. 

Hey Sam  :shameonyou:, dspfootballer the forum referee just issued you with a RED card for starting this thread and has suspended you from posting on this forum till the game on Wednesday!  :timeout:

As an additional punishment you are sentenced to go Jamaica at your own expense to hang out with RF and watch the Reggaeboyz in training doing whatever $%&! they does be doing between collecting beatings! 
I know you are now getting the feeling to :puking:

All we hope is that you learn from this RED card suspension and don't commit such a sin ever again!  :mackdaddy:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Midknight on August 06, 2009, 08:33:21 AM
The off season really need to done dread...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 06, 2009, 08:55:14 AM
college...thank you
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 12:16:56 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:18:13 PM
6 days before a WCQ and this is the kinda thread ah reading....

We is Warriors?

Ah with BM on one thing ...we dont deserve Latas as a coach.
It take strange white men in far away countries to recognize and celebrate what we 
here take for granted :(.

IMHO, taking  into consideration our progression thru the hex and all the goings on with the TTFF etc, to call for this coach to be fired is totally and utterly ridiculous....

Everyone entitled to dey own onion but damn!!... lord, put ah hand. :praying:
 



Another pack ah shyte post, how come we don't deserve Latas as a coach. He is ah big coach or what?
How many teams has he taken to the WC?
How about the Euro?
Uefa?
Copa?
Gold Cup?
TT PFL?
Super League?
Intercol?


Latapy using we to gain he experience, so is nothing about we deserving he.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:20:52 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.

Beside d Dutch guy who took we 2 d big dance anybody else could b professional and make decisions dat could be beneficial. As 4 usin we utter rubbish. if he did remain wit Falkirk he would have been in a betta position 2 learn his trade as a coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:33:09 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.

Beside d Dutch guy who took we 2 d big dance anybody else could b professional and make decisions dat could be beneficial. As 4 usin we utter rubbish. if he did remain wit Falkirk he would have been in a betta position 2 learn his trade as a coach.

I thin he would have been better at Falkirk learning he trade. Nuff people to guide him as the network is much stronger and capable there. Here he is on his own and would have to learn from trial and error. Patience is a virtue.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 12:35:44 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.

Beside d Dutch guy who took we 2 d big dance anybody else could b professional and make decisions dat could be beneficial. As 4 usin we utter rubbish. if he did remain wit Falkirk he would have been in a betta position 2 learn his trade as a coach.

I thin he would have been better at Falkirk learning he trade. Nuff people to guide him as the network is much stronger and capable there. Here he is on his own and would have to learn from trial and error. Patience is a virtue.

Dem fellas either rael patriotic or real dotish. D only way i wukin 4 d TTFF is if it is d only wuk it have.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 06, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
Fellas go at it hard when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:39:31 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trinidogg on August 06, 2009, 12:40:53 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.

Nah am saying the thread is crazy because the way people reacting not because its a fire latapy thread...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.

Nah am saying the thread is crazy because the way people reacting not because its a fire latapy thread...

Or ok, lol
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: jai john on August 06, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.

Beside d Dutch guy who took we 2 d big dance anybody else could b professional and make decisions dat could be beneficial. As 4 usin we utter rubbish. if he did remain wit Falkirk he would have been in a betta position 2 learn his trade as a coach.

 ...you think coach of falkirk rates higher than coach of your national team which in 2006 WC became the smallest nation to qualify for the WC ? I wudda take de wuk too ....I can go on from here with a good enough showing ....the ting is I would feel at least a good showing was important if not some points ...

Suely you cant believe that Latapy himself is happy with the situation as it is ? What wrong wid smebody suggesting that until Latapy proves imself as a coach we cant see him as that ? he proved himself as a player before he got his hero status right ? ting is it eh transferable to his being a coach ...and he should get the same treatment as , gally, corneal Sr and Jr, Fervier all of whom were players of exceptional abilities...n'est pas ?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 06, 2009, 12:50:26 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.

"may be inappropriate" ???...

the thread title downright outta timing and isn't that what the whole uproar was about in the first case?

in asking questions about the coach allyuh men have some solid points.

but dont come now and pretend like people reactions is based upon analysing Latas as a coach.. People get riled up because of the premature, nonsensical suggestion to fire Latas, and especially because alot of it is based on factors outside his realm of control.

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 12:52:21 PM
I know man Fack Up on this Board.... but this is one of the most Fack Up Threads ever...

It kinda disrespectful to the Magician.  :beermug:

We should start a thread on how to come up with ways to "Get RID of AJW" and then implement them...

You and the others who say the thread disrespectful, how so?


Latapy gain he respect through playing - as a player. Here on this thread people questioning his COACHING ability and decisions to perform at the highest level. How is that disrespectful Latapy do not have a reputation as a coach, so how peole being disrespectful.

get real.

D last fella wit d fro had real rep where dat get we?

Into the Hex and the only two points we have. Let's see on Wednesday if Latas could get the players to finish off ES.

This is not about comparing Latapy to Maturana perse, but in how Latapy going about doing things and the level of professionalism in operations and decision making.

Beside d Dutch guy who took we 2 d big dance anybody else could b professional and make decisions dat could be beneficial. As 4 usin we utter rubbish. if he did remain wit Falkirk he would have been in a betta position 2 learn his trade as a coach.

 ...you think coach of falkirk rates higher than coach of your national team which in 2006 WC became the smallest nation to qualify for the WC ? I wudda take de wuk too ....I can go on from here with a good enough showing ....the ting is I would feel at least a good showing was important if not some points ...

Suely you cant believe that Latapy himself is happy with the situation as it is ? What wrong wid smebody suggesting that until Latapy proves imself as a coach we cant see him as that ? he proved himself as a player before he got his hero status right ? ting is it eh transferable to his being a coach ...and he should get the same treatment as , gally, corneal Sr and Jr, Fervier all of whom were players of exceptional abilities...n'est pas ?

So because every other coach got screwd by d associatioon Latas should just wear a condom and he eh go get AIDS.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Fantastic on August 06, 2009, 12:58:08 PM
Elan, how you feel so qualified to comment on Latapy decision making and plans? Not fighting yuh down eh....I just want to know if you have more info than all de rest of we bout de dealings with TTFF and what Latapy trying to do or ask TTFF to do. Besides de couple substitutions in de games or de lineup or strategies employed in various parts of de games, how allyuh could find something else to analyze and blame Latas? Is not de same TTFF that giving trouble all these years? Granted Beenie is a big time coach, yuh ent see that when Jack decide he had to make de money at de last world cup yuh ent see how many things got put in place that were never there before? Yuh think Jack listen to Beenie outta respect? Jack wanted he money and put faith in Beenie to get him his money. Beenie coulda drop Jack mudder from de team, Jack wasn't going to say nutten. No other coach has ever gotten that support financially and backing for any managerial decisions. How under all these different scenarios we could judge Latas so fast and hold him accountable for things that TTFF been doing for years? It kinda looking like some people want Latas to fail, because all of we could see de problems but only some rushing to put all de blame where dey ent even sure it belong
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: spideybuff on August 06, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
Ok...let me try a thing here:

When last we score 2 on Costa Rica?

When last we score in the Azteca?

Any other coach ever do that for us?

I see both games and this is the best Trinidad playing since we beat Mexico 'C' team in October 2005. Better than the 3 World Cup games even. Costa Rica is the best side in the region and Mexico in Mexico is the hardest game ANY side have to play in the hex.

I know men just want attention with this thread, but if you really using your head and claim to be a football fan, you will know u talking assness to judge Latas on two games.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 01:23:02 PM
Ok...let me try a thing here:

When last we score 2 on Costa Rica?

When last we score in the Azteca?

Any other coach ever do that for us?

I see both games and this is the best Trinidad playing since we beat Mexico 'C' team in October 2005. Better than the 3 World Cup games even. Costa Rica is the best side in the region and Mexico in Mexico is the hardest game ANY side have to play in the hex.

I know men just want attention with this thread, but if you really using your head and claim to be a football fan, you will know u talking assness to judge Latas on two games.

Fellas in these parts only intrested in w's dat is y dey have  tabanca 4 d fro. He had a winnin record. 4get d cobeau brand he had w's.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Fantastic on August 06, 2009, 01:55:29 PM
W's against who? Pray tell.......   


WE BEATING EL WHO ON WEDNESDAY :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on August 06, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
Elan, how you feel so qualified to comment on Latapy decision making and plans? Not fighting yuh down eh....I just want to know if you have more info than all de rest of we bout de dealings with TTFF and what Latapy trying to do or ask TTFF to do. Besides de couple substitutions in de games or de lineup or strategies employed in various parts of de games, how allyuh could find something else to analyze and blame Latas? Is not de same TTFF that giving trouble all these years? Granted Beenie is a big time coach, yuh ent see that when Jack decide he had to make de money at de last world cup yuh ent see how many things got put in place that were never there before? Yuh think Jack listen to Beenie outta respect? Jack wanted he money and put faith in Beenie to get him his money. Beenie coulda drop Jack mudder from de team, Jack wasn't going to say nutten. No other coach has ever gotten that support financially and backing for any managerial decisions. How under all these different scenarios we could judge Latas so fast and hold him accountable for things that TTFF been doing for years? It kinda looking like some people want Latas to fail, because all of we could see de problems but only some rushing to put all de blame where dey ent even sure it belong

Ok...let me try a thing here:

When last we score 2 on Costa Rica?

When last we score in the Azteca?

Any other coach ever do that for us?

I see both games and this is the best Trinidad playing since we beat Mexico 'C' team in October 2005. Better than the 3 World Cup games even. Costa Rica is the best side in the region and Mexico in Mexico is the hardest game ANY side have to play in the hex.

I know men just want attention with this thread, but if you really using your head and claim to be a football fan, you will know u talking assness to judge Latas on two games.


two big posts here  :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.

"may be inappropriate" ???...

the thread title downright outta timing and isn't that what the whole uproar was about in the first case?

in asking questions about the coach allyuh men have some solid points.

but dont come now and pretend like people reactions is based upon analysing Latas as a coach.. People get riled up because of the premature, nonsensical suggestion to fire Latas, and especially because alot of it is based on factors outside his realm of control.


Can you or do you care to explain how it out of his control if he is the head coach?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dinho on August 06, 2009, 02:16:01 PM
Fellas go at it when men say something against latapy wowz... :devil: not even Yorkie woulda get men trippin so bad... i seen fellas dissed God on this board when talking bout Marvin Andrews with his faith and men eh even react like this, yo this thread is just crazy...

The title may be in appropriate, but the gist of the thread not crazy, it is asking questions of the coach. We do it to every coach around the world, but because is some we like, the therad is shyte and crazy.

Men or Boys.

"may be inappropriate" ???...

the thread title downright outta timing and isn't that what the whole uproar was about in the first case?

in asking questions about the coach allyuh men have some solid points.

but dont come now and pretend like people reactions is based upon analysing Latas as a coach.. People get riled up because of the premature, nonsensical suggestion to fire Latas, and especially because alot of it is based on factors outside his realm of control.


Can you or do you care to explain how it out of his control if he is the head coach?

Yuh think is the head coach who call off the Scotland tour and responsible for the glaring lack of planning and involvement accompanying this fixture?

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Elan, how you feel so qualified to comment on Latapy decision making and plans? Not fighting yuh down eh....I just want to know if you have more info than all de rest of we bout de dealings with TTFF and what Latapy trying to do or ask TTFF to do. Besides de couple substitutions in de games or de lineup or strategies employed in various parts of de games, how allyuh could find something else to analyze and blame Latas? Is not de same TTFF that giving trouble all these years? Granted Beenie is a big time coach, yuh ent see that when Jack decide he had to make de money at de last world cup yuh ent see how many things got put in place that were never there before? Yuh think Jack listen to Beenie outta respect? Jack wanted he money and put faith in Beenie to get him his money. Beenie coulda drop Jack mudder from de team, Jack wasn't going to say nutten. No other coach has ever gotten that support financially and backing for any managerial decisions. How under all these different scenarios we could judge Latas so fast and hold him accountable for things that TTFF been doing for years? It kinda looking like some people want Latas to fail, because all of we could see de problems but only some rushing to put all de blame where dey ent even sure it belong

Qualified you say. We on a message board. Plus I did not get into tactics or delve into anything like that. My contention is that nothing has changed and it even seems to be more unorganized than before. I alluded in earlier post that we have not really improved on play as we looked just as disshelved at the back against mexico than any other time.

Jack invested to gain money with Beenie, so money with Latas eh good, or he don't want money of the Continent? I don't follow one from the other. No ne blaming Latapy fr everything that has been this way. Latapy himself said we do not need warm up matches and playing Tobago and the U-20s, he knew what he was getting into, and APPARENTLY he is satisfied with how the TTFF is doing things, who is to blame. He made a conscious decision to accept this job. What should we do, sit back and say "well is Latas son of the soil, hero, magic player so it all cool?"
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 02:25:28 PM
Ok...let me try a thing here:

When last we score 2 on Costa Rica?

When last we score in the Azteca?

Any other coach ever do that for us?

I see both games and this is the best Trinidad playing since we beat Mexico 'C' team in October 2005. Better than the 3 World Cup games even. Costa Rica is the best side in the region and Mexico in Mexico is the hardest game ANY side have to play in the hex.

I know men just want attention with this thread, but if you really using your head and claim to be a football fan, you will know u talking assness to judge Latas on two games.

We judged Mturana on 1 game so what you talking about. We saw the game too. We scored in the Azteca, how many points did we get for that? This business is about results,, and that is the final point.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 06, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 06, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
So who blieve dat tings would have been different at d helm. D team lookin betta not impt d fro got we 2 pts. JW know dat Latas eh have d clout dat D Don had so he could continue wit he caravan 2 change everyting except d TTFF.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on August 06, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
Like allyuh eh realize elan iz ah troll!!  :shameonyou:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 06, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
" CAN'T STAND IT... I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT .. IT'S A SABOTAGE"" (The Beastie Boys)

..REVOLUTION COMING SOON
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on August 06, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Quote
..REVOLUTION COMING SOON

Definition: a procedure or course, as if in a circuit, back to a starting point.

(http://www.obsidianlaunch.com/TPEntrepreneur/graphics/163%20Ways/zero.jpg)

Let's hope this is not prophetic come Aug 12.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 06, 2009, 04:36:58 PM
well Palos..I guess you not in the WAR...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 06, 2009, 05:34:45 PM
" CAN'T STAND IT... I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT .. IT'S A SABOTAGE"" (The Beastie Boys)

..REVOLUTION COMING SOON

I love that song jed ,just rocks in every aspect .viva la revolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PN7Xbexq4&feature=fvw
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: College on August 06, 2009, 07:02:16 PM
6 days before a WCQ and this is the kinda thread ah reading....

We is Warriors?

Ah with BM on one thing ...we dont deserve Latas as a coach.
It take strange white men in far away countries to recognize and celebrate what we 
here take for granted :(.

IMHO, taking  into consideration our progression thru the hex and all the goings on with the TTFF etc, to call for this coach to be fired is totally and utterly ridiculous....

Everyone entitled to dey own onion but damn!!... lord, put ah hand. :praying:
 



Another pack ah shyte post, how come we don't deserve Latas as a coach. He is ah big coach or what?
How many teams has he taken to the WC?
How about the Euro?
Uefa?
Copa?
Gold Cup?
TT PFL?
Super League?
Intercol?


Latapy using we to gain he experience, so is nothing about we deserving he.

You could look at my shyte post anyway you choose b/c we all have varying opinions. Ah still maintain we have a good thing and we dont know it. Latas, from what I've seen and heard have plenty to offer from the coaching box.

It was so easy after Mats leave for Latas to say, 'nah lemme stay as the assistant, geh lil experience and take over after the hex'.  Nobody on this board would ah fault him. He would ah have less pressure and time to grow into the position and groom he team for 2014, but instead he take the job knowing fully well that he would be putting his rep on the line, knowing fuly well the Jackula he was dealing with and the state of T&T football, knowing the current crop of players is not the best in recent years.

 It took a lot of character for him to risk everything he has built in the name of his country and the love of the game..... This is what I'm referring to when ah say we aint deserve he. How much Lats getting paid? Yuh say he using we for experience?  Whapen, Beenie wuk for free?  Bennie get he money and ride out? who using who?

At the end of the day results matters, Latas take the job knowing what he was getting into, and I'm sure he has his reasons for doing so and as such, he has to be held accountable.  Calling for his head after 2 qualifiers sounds like more emotion and less rationale. If they fire him, who will coach the team? Corneal?

 Bottom line is he has to get the team to produce and I feel confident that with all the bacchanal and ting , come game time El Cacahole will get about 4 :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on August 06, 2009, 08:11:49 PM
DROP YORKE
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 09:39:10 PM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .

Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 06, 2009, 09:40:29 PM
Like allyuh eh realize elan iz ah troll!!  :shameonyou:
And you is the Zit on the Troll azz.  :bringiton:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 06, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .

Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.
well 2 other three eint bad.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 06, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.

Kill you dead you is some big time coach... 'bout you could see Latapy in over he head after only three games.


More offensive than the title is that this shit thread reach six pages and counting.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Father Abraham on August 07, 2009, 05:31:41 AM
what is the sense of playing practise games with local players, when game time he picks mostly the foreign professionals.

time will tell
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on August 07, 2009, 05:43:29 AM
It was my greatest Honour to see the magician in Action against Rangers a few years ago. Every time he touch the ball the Falkirk fans was buzzing in anticipation for magic. In their training sessions... you could see the glee that the players have in their eyes when this man talk. It was like you was in the presence of football royalty. They just love that short dread lock fella. Every turn he made was bigger than the Falkirk Wheel.... :beermug: He's just that large.

Here it comes that he get a job in his homeland, to inspire, to lead and to display HIS magic and we calling for this throat. 2 games 2 losses... he has not ironed out the kinks. How could we play friendlies when men playing with their clubs in tourneys, men looking for contracts, men holding down Messi and Dinho etc?

(we players have ability, but given the factors they have to deal with how could they give 100% or why?)

With fans like we who needs enemies?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: lefty on August 07, 2009, 07:23:42 AM
It was my greatest Honour to see the magician in Action against Rangers a few years ago. Every time he touch the ball the Falkirk fans was buzzing in anticipation for magic. In their training sessions... you could see the glee that the players have in their eyes when this man talk. It was like you was in the presence of football royalty. They just love that short dread lock fella. Every turn he made was bigger than the Falkirk Wheel.... :beermug: He's just that large.

Here it comes that he get a job in his homeland, to inspire, to lead and to display HIS magic and we calling for this throat. 2 games 2 losses... he has not ironed out the kinks. How could we play friendlies when men playing with their clubs in tourneys, men looking for contracts, men holding down Messi and Dinho etc?

(we players have ability, but given the factors they have to deal with how could they give 100% or why?)

With fans like we who needs enemies?


totally endorse from d time see dis thread and name dat start it, I dismiss it like ah fart in d wind
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: JERSEY TRINI on August 07, 2009, 07:37:12 AM
All I have to say is Mats get over a year to do he shit so we should afford Latas the same.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .

Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.

Well I din/don't see the need for the give him time option ... in my view dahis ah inherent given, all things considered ... so ah kinda surprised at the number of voters that took that route ... fuh me is a clear case of 'NO' ... right now, iz Latas or bust. Plus, leh de TTFF be accountable fuh its decisions.

If yuh doh have confidence in him as head coach, yuh probably shouldn't want him around as an assistant to an entering HC as well ... at least definitely not in this rounds b/c it would like be compromising to credibility.


Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 07, 2009, 11:39:56 AM
Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.

Kill you dead you is some big time coach... 'bout you could see Latapy in over he head after only three games.


More offensive than the title is that this shit thread reach six pages and counting.

I guess only you allowed to haved opinions.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 07, 2009, 12:21:29 PM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .

Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.

Well I din/don't see the need for the give him time option ... in my view dahis ah inherent given, all things considered ... so ah kinda surprised at the number of voters that took that route ... fuh me is a clear case of 'NO' ... right now, iz Latas or bust. Plus, leh de TTFF be accountable fuh its decisions.

If yuh doh have confidence in him as head coach, yuh probably shouldn't want him around as an assistant to an entering HC as well ... at least definitely not in this rounds b/c it would like be compromising to credibility.



Oh yeah you ,I forgot about you.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 07, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Post fadder Daft trini
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: injunchile on August 07, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
Well we know what the good book says- A prophet has no honour in his own country. Can anything good come out of Nazareth/. I guess some are saying can anything good come out of Laventille.
 Come August the 12th we would want to make Latapy our new PM.
I know Big MAG would not like to hear this - Zamora is the new Messiah.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Midknight on August 07, 2009, 03:51:02 PM
Well we know what the good book says- A prophet has no honour in his own country. Can anything good come out of Nazareth/. I guess some are saying can anything good come out of Laventille.
 Come August the 12th we would want to make Latapy our new PM.
I know Big MAG would not like to hear this - Zamora is the new Messiah.

August 12th is nothing. We could beat El Salvador 100-0 and it won't mean a thing if we don't take at least 7 points from the other games. As a matter of fact, somebody here done confirm that El Salvador is a shit side :rolleyes:, so that ent nothing to beat we chest about
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on August 07, 2009, 03:59:30 PM
Injun...dem messiah does say something...dais all
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on August 07, 2009, 04:48:34 PM
All I have to say is Mats get over a year to do he shit so we should afford Latas the same.

14 mths to be precise.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2009, 04:56:48 PM
Question:      Should Russell Latapy get fired.
No    - 30 (36.6%)
Yes    - 5 (6.1%)
Give him time    - 40 (48.8%)
Assistant only    - 7 (8.5%)
   
Total Voters: 82

5 agree out of 82 votes ,i KNOW 3 of the 5 Sam ,Palos and Elan ,them other 2 vote today .

Don't talk shyte I is ah big man, I vote give him time. Because I seeing now that he in over he head does not mean I don't support him.

Well I din/don't see the need for the give him time option ... in my view dahis ah inherent given, all things considered ... so ah kinda surprised at the number of voters that took that route ... fuh me is a clear case of 'NO' ... right now, iz Latas or bust. Plus, leh de TTFF be accountable fuh its decisions.

If yuh doh have confidence in him as head coach, yuh probably shouldn't want him around as an assistant to an entering HC as well ... at least definitely not in this rounds b/c it would like be compromising to credibility.



Oh yeah you ,I forgot about you.

Leh we try dis S-L-O-W-L-Y ... see part in bold. I din pussyfoot ... In my opinion he should not be fired (not that there's any danger of that).

Zeen?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: King Deese on August 07, 2009, 09:47:34 PM
zamora who???????

aye latas lemmeh talk to yuh for a second.............yuh want to be a true magician???????????den yuh have to release d black panther on el salvo and rest of the hex..........for those of you who don't know who i am referring to his name is Cornell Glen..............see it?????

zmo could kiss my left................i won't go there because i might actually hurt somebody unintentionally on this forum.....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on August 07, 2009, 10:05:25 PM
Latapy should pick our better players ,Roberts,Sancho is good enough for me .Hes dropping the ball here ,and not even Sancho so much ,heard hes playing very aggressive these days anyway.
As it is with our squad we really should win next week ,if he doesnt something wrong really .that last sentence hurt to say ........huh. 
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on August 07, 2009, 10:17:32 PM
Latapy should pick our better players ,Roberts,Sancho is good enough for me .Hes dropping the ball here ,and not even Sancho so much ,heard hes playing very aggressive these days anyway.
As it is with our squad we really should win next week ,if he doesnt something wrong really .that last sentence hurt to say ........huh. 

I not severely worried about next week. Latas biggest headache is the defense in terms of personnel. Once he get that half decent we flying. Is the games after wednesday I am more worried about
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on September 05, 2009, 07:43:28 PM
Theobald and Andrews starting?  and nobody mark Carlos Pavon?
Starting to sharpen my knives
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Marcos on September 05, 2009, 08:06:47 PM
FIRE BUN DIS THREAD
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 08:16:46 PM
FIRE BUN DIS THREAD

 :devil:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 05, 2009, 08:29:08 PM
u cah fire d team?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Bally on September 05, 2009, 08:30:17 PM
yes fire he ass that shit side he put out
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 08:33:48 PM
Fire Latapy now to achieve what exactly??....in any event as Weary just remind we in the chat room...Latapy has to get 14 months at least.....dais how much time we endure Maturana....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on September 05, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
where d under 20 team?  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on September 05, 2009, 08:41:43 PM
fire Yorke too. bet he was drinking tequilla with the honduran mami;s all lastnight  :-\
dem aint know how to coach. Terry Fenwick is available
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Father Abraham on September 05, 2009, 08:45:39 PM
there is n hope in trinidad soccer. none, sorry to say but that is ah reality. who are we going to beat to feel good, barbados and grenada, haha. come on, the basics lacking badd.

oh yes, latapy not ready as a coach, i hope you fellas who wanted latapy as coach feel good now. we have regressed. now yorke on board, the two fellas who had no discipline when they were playing is the authority and the example now, wow. who r u kidding. is ah big joke that country trinidad, everything is ah joke for real, jokey badd.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 08:47:15 PM
there is n hope in trinidad soccer. none, sorry to say but that is ah reality. who are we going to beat to feel good, barbados and grenada, haha. come on, the basics lacking badd.

oh yes, latapy not ready as a coach, i hope you fellas who wanted latapy as coach feel good now. we have regressed. now yorke on board, the two fellas who had no discipline when they were playing is the authority and the example now, wow. who r u kidding. is ah big joke that country trinidad, everything is ah joke for real, jokey badd.

AYE, AYE.....TTHE COUNTRY'S NAME IS TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO and doh make mih have to correct yuh again for the night!!!....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on September 05, 2009, 08:48:33 PM
there is n hope in trinidad soccer. none, sorry to say but that is ah reality. who are we going to beat to feel good, barbados and grenada, haha. come on, the basics lacking badd.

oh yes, latapy not ready as a coach, i hope you fellas who wanted latapy as coach feel good now. we have regressed. now yorke on board, the two fellas who had no discipline when they were playing is the authority and the example now, wow. who r u kidding. is ah big joke that country trinidad, everything is ah joke for real, jokey badd.

AYE, AYE.....TTHE COUNTRY'S NAME IS TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO and doh make mih have to correct yuh again for the night!!!....
best he start saying T&T lol
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Father Abraham on September 05, 2009, 08:50:49 PM
trinidad and tobago, who cares, the country makes me sick.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Father Abraham on September 05, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
4 in tnt craw, wow. embarassing is not even the word. fire latapy and yorke and revamp the whole soccer system in trini, sorry tobago too. just pathetic, is a good thing the link not working, could not watch that crap
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
4 in tnt craw, wow. embarassing is not even the word. fire latapy and yorke and revamp the whole soccer system in trini, sorry tobago too. just pathetic, is a good thing the link not working, could not watch that crap

Why yuh do take yuh American passport and go over on the US soccer fans site and celebrate with your team and leave this site for folks who really love and care about the T&T team and the country??....

A-hole!!...

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: frico on September 05, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
Russell you cannot coach!
WHAT A LOAD AH RUBBISH CANT DEFEND AND CANT PUT AWAY CHANCES.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: cm103 on September 05, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
trinidad and tobago, who cares, the country makes me sick.

Men like you who proud to sh*t all over the country and team while waving yuh american passport when times hard and playing freshwater does make me sick.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on September 05, 2009, 09:10:16 PM
trinidad and tobago, who cares, the country makes me sick.

Men like you who proud to sh*t all over the country and team while waving yuh american passport when times hard and playing freshwater does make me sick.


Doh 4get cussin peeps like Zamora who eh born here
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Dutty on September 05, 2009, 09:11:41 PM
trinidad and tobago, who cares, the country makes me sick.

ay jus so? wham to you?

change yuh itchy tampon and come back and post more clear headed nah
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: rickstaa on September 05, 2009, 09:12:21 PM
FIRE BUN DIS THREAD

 :devil:
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on September 05, 2009, 09:13:17 PM
is amazin de ASSHOLERY that does spew from some people eh
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 05, 2009, 09:14:39 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on September 05, 2009, 09:15:19 PM
fire bun ATB!

Big Up!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 05, 2009, 09:15:41 PM
is amazin de ASSHOLERY that does spew from some people eh

well what is your take
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on September 05, 2009, 09:16:17 PM
is amazin de ASSHOLERY that does spew from some people eh

well what is your take
ya read the posts in question?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on September 05, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
yah think he go learn anything ,it so simple pick the best players available not the once who do good in practise ,THIS ENT FALKIRK
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on September 05, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
is amazin de ASSHOLERY that does spew from some people eh

well what is your take

LUV YUH NEW NAME
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: rickstaa on September 05, 2009, 09:18:32 PM
trinidad and tobago, who cares, the country makes me sick.
well KICK ROCKS then UNCLE TOM  :devil:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Augi on September 05, 2009, 09:18:52 PM
I feel we had bad tactics tonight but latas is we boy...give him a chance
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
fire bun ATB!

Big Up!

Yuh understand....real kaka hole behaviour....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 05, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
yah think he go learn anything ,it so simple pick the best players available not the once who do good in practise ,THIS ENT FALKIRK

i really tink so. i agree to an extent that he not pickin d best players, but i givin him d benefit of d doubt. we shouldnt throw him away widout givin him a fair chance. i really believe he cud develop d players an d team too.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on September 05, 2009, 09:23:23 PM
I feel we had bad tactics tonight but latas is we boy...give him a chance

hope latapy ent trade een his bagpipes for ah pan yet.just go leave
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Quags on September 05, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
yah think he go learn anything ,it so simple pick the best players available not the once who do good in practise ,THIS ENT FALKIRK

i really tink so. i agree to an extent that he not pickin d best players, but i givin him d benefit of d doubt. we shouldnt throw him away widout givin him a fair chance. i really believe he cud develop d players an d team too.
Hon he had ample time to change his ways ,and he stuck to his game plan .He at any moment would could drop the top scorer without rhyme or reason .Hes kinda nuts.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: lil damo on September 05, 2009, 09:33:41 PM
every year is the same thing with our fans, fire d coach fire d coach. 10yrs from now we will be saying fire the coach. anyone ever stop to think that maybe our players arent that good? or maybe we have some good ones but the rest not that good? or maybe the other CONCACAF countries have excellent players? Doesnt matter which coach we have, it still doesnt change the fact that out players are of lesser talent compared to other top teams in the region.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 05, 2009, 09:34:48 PM
every year is the same thing with our fans, fire d coach fire d coach. 10yrs from now we will be saying fire the coach. anyone ever stop to think that maybe our players arent that good? or maybe we have some good ones but the rest not that good? or maybe the other CONCACAF countries have excellent players? Doesnt matter which coach we have, it still doesnt change the fact that out players are of lesser talent compared to other top teams in the region.

......added to which we have a Federation that f*&^%ks up at every opportunity...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on September 06, 2009, 01:22:29 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!

allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kingdavid on September 06, 2009, 05:15:14 AM
wen will people realize is not a new coach we need, if u coaching a side and a man dictating everything u do wat u expect. STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: fari on September 06, 2009, 05:51:43 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!

allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

just cool argentina have world class talent and farting up...we have decent talent and farting up..i not saying that latas is not blameless but the solution for we football is not just a coach...we have to set up a system to groom the players...we players just not good compared to the rest of concacaf period.  (lil damo hit the nail on the head)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 06, 2009, 06:04:00 AM
I feel we had bad tactics tonight but latas is we boy...give him a chance

 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: daryn on September 06, 2009, 06:05:13 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!

allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

just cool argentina have world class talent and farting up...we have decent talent and farting up..i not saying that latas is not blameless but the solution for we football is not just a coach...we have to set up a system to groom the players...we players just not good compared to the rest of concacaf period.  (lil damo hit the nail on the head)

Argentina was playing Brasil; we was playing against Honduras.  So that should compensate for the difference between Argentina talent and T&T talent.

I really have to disagree that our players not as good as the rest of concacaf.  go back and watch how Wim had the team was playing in the Gold Cup and factor in which players he had available.  Now all of a sudden the talent pool drop off? 

Latas and Diego both learning on the job and they both in above their heads at present.  The question now is whether or not we let the learning experience continue.  
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on September 06, 2009, 06:35:53 AM
wen will people realize is not a new coach we need, if u coaching a side and a man dictating everything u do wat u expect. STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
latas could of picked a better squad outta thousands of player eligible to play for TnT.  Marvin Andrews and Theobald should not even been there, and Silvio Spann in midfield is a dunce move against those big Hondurans.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 06, 2009, 06:42:30 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!
allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

dat is not wat i sayin JC. i jus want ppl to give latas a chance to show wat he cud do. as weary say, maturana got 14 months to coach we team an all he really did was leave us in a big pile of s**t.

allyuh cah expect latas to clean up maturana mess in d space of three months. i agree wid u where his team selection leavin much to be desired but dat eh warrant me callin 4 he head yet.

at d end of d day JC, u have your opinion on dis latas situation and i have mine.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Ngozi on September 06, 2009, 06:53:08 AM
I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: sammy on September 06, 2009, 07:28:19 AM
wen will people realize is not a new coach we need, if u coaching a side and a man dictating everything u do wat u expect. STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

so Latas is not to blame for staying there and staying quiet in that environment?
So Latas sell out to Jack?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2009, 07:47:32 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!
allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

dat is not wat i sayin JC. i jus want ppl to give latas a chance to show wat he cud do. as weary say, maturana got 14 months to coach we team an all he really did was leave us in a big pile of s**t.

allyuh cah expect latas to clean up maturana mess in d space of three months. i agree wid u where his team selection leavin much to be desired but dat eh warrant me callin 4 he head yet.

Girl I doh know nah......this is my take on it, the teams we had to face next when Latapy took over was Costa Rica and Mexico two of the biggest in the region.   The game against Costa Rica was the first time in a long time the team look like they had some kinda structure and purpose.  Would we be singing a different tune if Scotland didn't throw way not one but two sitters in that game??  We came agonisingly close to winning...but it was Costa Rica we played so it was always going to be difficult.

Peeps seemed to be thinking that we were going to beat Mexico IN Mexico.  Really?? Mexico IN Mexico??  Really people??  Really??

The game we were realistically expected to win, we did win against El Salvador.

We were really going to beat Honduras IN Honduras??  Really people??  Really??

And on top of all that, the TTFF/Jackula sabotaging him by not providing the resources for warm up games etc.  Is like we couldn't even get a warm up against Guyana!!!.... :o

The only criticism I have of Latapy is maybe, just maybe he should not have taken the job at the time he did because the task ahead was always going to be difficult.  He should have probably told Jack exactly where to stuff he offer after he Jack, done f*$%k up the campaign with blacklisting our WC 06 heroes and by keeping on a dumbtist until it was too late!!.... >:( >:( >:( :'(

And fire Latapy now to achieve what??....it is more than likely we are not going to WC 2010, so fire Latapy now for what??

Ssssttteeeuuuuppsss!!!!....he have to get at least 14 months, at least he got a win in WC qualifying more than that dentist parading as a coach ever did in his 14 months...

  LEAVE LATAPY ALONE!!!!!....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 06, 2009, 07:55:56 AM
I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

when we lorse with wim yuh blame wim  with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Ngozi on September 06, 2009, 08:16:21 AM
A hippo? Wim inherit a team that just went to the world cup but in fairness to him and due to blacklists he was out of his depth
Maturana get the team and the team went to an all time low where he had to call back a 41 yr old latas
who has now become the coach .... in the middle of this failing campaign and I'm a hippo for supporting him
Boy ... boy ... lol


I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

when we lorse with wim yuh blame wim  with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: noize on September 06, 2009, 09:15:07 AM
At this point Latapy should not be fired it would make no sense ...let this play thru and then let us start preparing for 2014 if we don't make it to 2010....based on his performance after this Hex and early into the next campaign then if this Sh!t continues then he should be axed....based on performance not on emotion.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2009, 09:16:30 AM

with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo

Maturana had 14 months and had a resume more impressive than Latapy....but where did that get us??....steups!!...

Young players who names are splashed across headlines ,are to easy to pick he prefers players nobody ever heard off.

Players like who??....if yuh tell me old and recycled players yes, but who never heard of them.... ???
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2009, 09:21:09 AM
Anybody here seriously expects Russell to be on the sideline for 2014 qualification?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on September 06, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!

In Honduras?  8)
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2009, 09:36:41 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!

In Honduras?  8)

Ah find yuh take long to reach....  :devil: ;D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 06, 2009, 09:48:19 AM
Anybody here seriously expects Russell to be on the sideline for 2014 qualification?

no

Even if we qualified he would not have been in charge after the cup

This will do his coaching cv good and give him a shot of becoming Falkirk manager one day
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: nunu on September 06, 2009, 09:53:32 AM
I agree ....fire latapy the defense was a misery last night too many rebounds ...it should have been a 1-1
game .
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: King Deese on September 06, 2009, 10:07:56 AM
fire the idiots running the feeble federation. i want to see true leaders running this organization and not a bunch of fu&king yes men.


viva la revoluccion..................
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 06, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
A hippo? Wim inherit a team that just went to the world cup but in fairness to him and due to blacklists he was out of his depth
Maturana get the team and the team went to an all time low where he had to call back a 41 yr old latas
who has now become the coach .... in the middle of this failing campaign and I'm a hippo for supporting him
Boy ... boy ... lol


I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

when we lorse with wim yuh blame wim  with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo

did whim have the world cup players ?? eh well !!!  latapy has them  ent now what he do ???? oh shhhhh turn a blind eye to yuh boy
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: davidephraim on September 06, 2009, 10:39:02 AM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!

allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

In all fairness JC, The colombian had a better chance of preparation but Latas matched his results with one win, Pacho saw us put out de gold cup,.. I am not going down the "poisoned Chalice road" but please be fair in your comparisons. True Latas is a darling and is hard to be vex with yuh darling but strictly on the merits that exist between both coaches... lets all be fair at least.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 06, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
Why anybody seriously thought Latapy like Maradona would have been successful depite having limited coaching experience, because they were great players?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Savannah boy on September 06, 2009, 01:14:01 PM
Truth be told is dat de Concacaf is weaker than in previous hexes.  Is Latas fault a certain Jack Ass put personal issues before the team?  We should have been developing Tinto and men like that years ago.  Dwight and Russell should have retired years ago.  We wasted all that time from de last WC to now and we still chopping and changing?  Latas needs time...cyah blame him for de mess he walk into.  He needs to speak with authority in my opinion...kinda laid back for a coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on September 06, 2009, 03:37:26 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!
allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

dat is not wat i sayin JC. i jus want ppl to give latas a chance to show wat he cud do. as weary say, maturana got 14 months to coach we team an all he really did was leave us in a big pile of s**t.

allyuh cah expect latas to clean up maturana mess in d space of three months. i agree wid u where his team selection leavin much to be desired but dat eh warrant me callin 4 he head yet.

at d end of d day JC, u have your opinion on dis latas situation and i have mine.  :beermug:
So tell me something, who clean up sven goran errikson's BIG pile ah sh!t, not javier agguirre??

the man on the job just as long as latas , and he's 3 and i, plus he won the GC against the U.S on U.S. soil by ah huge margin.

that's ah cop out! latas was indeed ah good player , but as the cliche goes, good players seldom make good coaches. i say give him ah GOLD ROLEX and GET RID!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Small Change on September 06, 2009, 03:41:34 PM
Get RID of Latapy and bring who? Is not Latas fault. Is not Maturana fault! It's the WHOLE TTFA Administration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on September 06, 2009, 04:41:22 PM
I not sure if anybody noticin...

but we defence lookin  worse dan ever.

It was done shaky to begin with... but now...it frankomeh disgusting.

We cannot continue to rely on miracle performances from an aging Clayton Ince which is precisely what has been happening since Latas took over.

Our team has little organization, defensive discipline & shape.  Now that may very well be players' fault but modern football is such that once you consistenly give away possession, you're going to pay sooner or later.

Latas has said that we should play in our "traditional style" which might be all well and good for romatics but I tell you this....unless you can be certain that you have the firepower to outscore your opposition....you're going to LOSE.

Look at the games thus far.

Costa Rica in Tobago.  We scored...they scored more.  Everytime they got the ball, they looked ikely to score against us.

Mexico in Mexico.  A miracle performance by Ince combined with toilet bowl finishing from the Mexicans prevented us losing by more than the 1 goal.  We had one chance in that game.  We scored it.

El Salvador in T&T.  Another miracle performance from Ince prevented the El Salvadoreans from earning at least a point.  The team did play decently but defensively, we were still VERY SUSPECT

Honduras in Honduras.  This time no miracles from Ince.  Result?  4 in we pweffen.  Our defence looking hapless.  And by defence...I mean TEAM defence...not just the back 4.

We have regressed defensively under Latas.  For a team that has several weaknesses, that's destructive.  For those who care to remember, cast your minds back to Germany 2006.  THIS is how we would have played if Latas was on the field from the start and these are the kind of results we would have gotten and worse.

Yuh want a "brand" to go forward and say yuh "lookin good" without having the foundation and discipline to handle tings when yuh lose the ball....yuh going to lose BADLY 9 times out of 10.

Until Latas learns how to coach DEFENCE, he and T&T won't be successful.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: davidephraim on September 06, 2009, 05:14:55 PM
I not sure if anybody noticin...

but we defence lookin  worse dan ever.

It was done shaky to begin with... but now...it frankomeh disgusting.

We cannot continue to rely on miracle performances from an aging Clayton Ince which is precisely what has been happening since Latas took over.

Our team has little organization, defensive discipline & shape.  Now that may very well be players' fault but modern football is such that once you consistenly give away possession, you're going to pay sooner or later.

Latas has said that we should play in our "traditional style" which might be all well and good for romatics but I tell you this....unless you can be certain that you have the firepower to outscore your opposition....you're going to LOSE.

Look at the games thus far.

Costa Rica in Tobago.  We scored...they scored more.  Everytime they got the ball, they looked ikely to score against us.

Mexico in Mexico.  A miracle performance by Ince combined with toilet bowl finishing from the Mexicans prevented us losing by more than the 1 goal.  We had one chance in that game.  We scored it.

El Salvador in T&T.  Another miracle performance from Ince prevented the El Salvadoreans from earning at least a point.  The team did play decently but defensively, we were still VERY SUSPECT

Honduras in Honduras.  This time no miracles from Ince.  Result?  4 in we pweffen.  Our defence looking hapless.  And by defence...I mean TEAM defence...not just the back 4.

We have regressed defensively under Latas.  For a team that has several weaknesses, that's destructive.  For those who care to remember, cast your minds back to Germany 2006.  THIS is how we would have played if Latas was on the field from the start and these are the kind of results we would have gotten and worse.

Yuh want a "brand" to go forward and say yuh "lookin good" without having the foundation and discipline to handle tings when yuh lose the ball....yuh going to lose BADLY 9 times out of 10.

Until Latas learns how to coach DEFENCE, he and T&T won't be successful.


I think I want to agree with this statement. Lets help him get that defensive help because I for one dont want to sacrifice offense to have defence and so far its only Wim that has given me both. Long live Wim.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Preacher on September 06, 2009, 05:25:24 PM
I not sure if anybody noticin...

but we defence lookin  worse dan ever.

It was done shaky to begin with... but now...it frankomeh disgusting.

We cannot continue to rely on miracle performances from an aging Clayton Ince which is precisely what has been happening since Latas took over.

Our team has little organization, defensive discipline & shape.  Now that may very well be players' fault but modern football is such that once you consistenly give away possession, you're going to pay sooner or later.

Latas has said that we should play in our "traditional style" which might be all well and good for romatics but I tell you this....unless you can be certain that you have the firepower to outscore your opposition....you're going to LOSE.

Look at the games thus far.

Costa Rica in Tobago.  We scored...they scored more.  Everytime they got the ball, they looked ikely to score against us.

Mexico in Mexico.  A miracle performance by Ince combined with toilet bowl finishing from the Mexicans prevented us losing by more than the 1 goal.  We had one chance in that game.  We scored it.

El Salvador in T&T.  Another miracle performance from Ince prevented the El Salvadoreans from earning at least a point.  The team did play decently but defensively, we were still VERY SUSPECT

Honduras in Honduras.  This time no miracles from Ince.  Result?  4 in we pweffen.  Our defence looking hapless.  And by defence...I mean TEAM defence...not just the back 4.

We have regressed defensively under Latas.  For a team that has several weaknesses, that's destructive.  For those who care to remember, cast your minds back to Germany 2006.  THIS is how we would have played if Latas was on the field from the start and these are the kind of results we would have gotten and worse.

Yuh want a "brand" to go forward and say yuh "lookin good" without having the foundation and discipline to handle tings when yuh lose the ball....yuh going to lose BADLY 9 times out of 10.

Until Latas learns how to coach DEFENCE, he and T&T won't be successful.

Not sure why you trying to be all diplomatic bout this Palos.  Latas doing shyte because he's not qualified as a world cup coach simple.  As you say we bond to get beat.  Latas is guessing hoping that tricks and skill will win matches.

I don't know bout you or any other fellas up here but in a game like this if you foul my teamate twice just so.  I IN YOUR FACE.  Our players just watch Glen roll around with H players around him.  We not ready. 
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Ngozi on September 06, 2009, 07:31:06 PM

Partnah look at the world cup players latas have.... Dog ..obviously past his prime  ..... tallest past his prime but still decent ....whitley arguably our best midfielder from the 2006 squad injured out and now start back playing with petrotrin ... Yorke retired frm ball period  .... birchy is there but he has injuries and the list goes on ... latas has shadows of what whim had and the younger ones are not stepping up ...imagine our main source of attack relegated to play right back because after all this time we don't have anyone capable of playing it well consistently  ... I ask meh boy today who could we really put in the middle and besides birchy we have no one there who could match birchy work rate defensively far less be an organiser and distributor ... Trent isnt good enough and in fairness to him 33 is a bit old to come in as a rookie and lead this team from the middle when your previous merits is being player of the year in pro league ... trent is a hard working role player he is no play maker  ... our team simply as it is now is not good enough our players are unable to handle it at this level!

A hippo? Wim inherit a team that just went to the world cup but in fairness to him and due to blacklists he was out of his depth
Maturana get the team and the team went to an all time low where he had to call back a 41 yr old latas
who has now become the coach .... in the middle of this failing campaign and I'm a hippo for supporting him
Boy ... boy ... lol


I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

when we lorse with wim yuh blame wim  with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo

did whim have the world cup players ?? eh well !!!  latapy has them  ent now what he do ???? oh shhhhh turn a blind eye to yuh boy
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
I not sure if anybody noticin...

but we defence lookin  worse dan ever.

It was done shaky to begin with... but now...it frankomeh disgusting.

We cannot continue to rely on miracle performances from an aging Clayton Ince which is precisely what has been happening since Latas took over.

Our team has little organization, defensive discipline & shape.  Now that may very well be players' fault but modern football is such that once you consistenly give away possession, you're going to pay sooner or later.

Latas has said that we should play in our "traditional style" which might be all well and good for romatics but I tell you this....unless you can be certain that you have the firepower to outscore your opposition....you're going to LOSE.

Look at the games thus far.

Costa Rica in Tobago.  We scored...they scored more.  Everytime they got the ball, they looked ikely to score against us.

Mexico in Mexico.  A miracle performance by Ince combined with toilet bowl finishing from the Mexicans prevented us losing by more than the 1 goal.  We had one chance in that game.  We scored it.

El Salvador in T&T.  Another miracle performance from Ince prevented the El Salvadoreans from earning at least a point.  The team did play decently but defensively, we were still VERY SUSPECT

Honduras in Honduras.  This time no miracles from Ince.  Result?  4 in we pweffen.  Our defence looking hapless.  And by defence...I mean TEAM defence...not just the back 4.

We have regressed defensively under Latas.  For a team that has several weaknesses, that's destructive.  For those who care to remember, cast your minds back to Germany 2006.  THIS is how we would have played if Latas was on the field from the start and these are the kind of results we would have gotten and worse.

Yuh want a "brand" to go forward and say yuh "lookin good" without having the foundation and discipline to handle tings when yuh lose the ball....yuh going to lose BADLY 9 times out of 10.

Until Latas learns how to coach DEFENCE, he and T&T won't be successful.

Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: SUPA on September 06, 2009, 08:56:47 PM
I may not not agree with everything in your post but one thing i do admire is your tuffness. Yuh not scared tuh talk de thing and buss some shots round here. Nice be u self sah. Who vex loss. Nuff ah dem here doh like people that does stand up dat is why some ah dem dislike d Supa. But me eh care cuz i is a real heavy roller. Cuz most ah dem does put dey tail between dey leg and ride wid de majority. I must say doh that there are a few tuff members here. Just a few nothing more than dat. As meh boi Movado will say talk d thing my yute. Respeck. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Title: Am sorry Latas
Post by: Quags on September 06, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
I said some really mean things and I feel terrible about it now ,I didnt mean all of it.I was just so upset ahhhh sorry buds.Do yah thing .
Title: Re: Am sorry Latas
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2009, 11:19:12 PM
I said some really mean things and I feel terrible about it now ,I didnt mean all of it.I was just so upset ahhhh sorry buds.Do yah thing .

:)

Anyway, because yuh hate everybody equally .... he'll be aight.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: palos on September 07, 2009, 03:24:28 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.

Title: Re: Am sorry Latas
Post by: just cool on September 07, 2009, 03:41:17 AM
I said some really mean things and I feel terrible about it now ,I didnt mean all of it.I was just so upset ahhhh sorry buds.Do yah thing .
Sorry iz ah county in england yes!! you could sorry , but i eh sorry ah MDRCNT! latas sabotage the team wid his mad selections, and his wait till last minuite tuh make it known too!

he was on ah power trip, so now, let him eat cake! he had better players than what he picked tuh choose from , and he blatantly refused to use them, so i eh sorry about nutten i said, BC he hurt my feeling , so fork that, i not sorry. he danced to the music, so let him pay the piper now! and ah hope he get fired right after the hex.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on September 07, 2009, 04:29:37 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.


I eh go lie palos, this is ah first, i knew yuh had it in yuh by the way yuh was always goofing off, now this is the kinda feed back that i luv tuh hear, real nice read bro , ah sh! t yuh not!

i remeber stop watching T&T football just before bertille took over the team, we played in the GC and lose to mexico ah think it was, and i was wrath @ the way we got dominated, so i said to meh breddren ole man doggy who love football more than food, "doggy this team beyond redemption , i go stop watching this heartbreak team until they get serious, then months later doggy told me we had ah dutch coach and he real good and he used to coach real madrid, not knowing is beenhakker the man talking bout.

well i was beside mehself with joy, and i started back coming around slowly but surely, and ah notice ah differance from how the other coaches had we playing compared with beenie right away, especially our defence, it was far more organized than i've ever seen it and fellas made less silly mistakes in defence, @ last we had ah disipline midfield and defence.

that's why we were able to hang with england for 80 mins, and they had to resort tuh dirty tricks to win.

ah just hope latas don't stay on as coach after the hex, since that could spell another 3-4 yrs of share misery and disapointment.
Title: Re: Am sorry Latas
Post by: davidephraim on September 07, 2009, 04:52:03 AM
I said some really mean things and I feel terrible about it now ,I didnt mean all of it.I was just so upset ahhhh sorry buds.Do yah thing .
Sorry iz ah county in england yes!! you could sorry , but i eh sorry ah MDRCNT! latas sabotage the team wid his mad selections, and his wait till last minuite tuh make it known too!

he was on ah power trip, so now, let him eat cake! he had better players than what he picked tuh choose from , and he blatantly refused to use them, so i eh sorry about nutten i said, BC he hurt my feeling , so fork that, i not sorry. he danced to the music, so let him pay the piper now! and ah hope he get fired right after the hex.
Question ???  Can a fan also be on a power trip? Probably wanting things their way? Pissed off and upset when what they expected didn't occur? Accusations without knowledge?  Nah..Probably not.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: PATRIOT on September 07, 2009, 05:47:02 AM
I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



 :applause: :applause: :applause: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 07, 2009, 06:04:04 AM

Partnah look at the world cup players latas have.... Dog ..obviously past his prime  ..... tallest past his prime but still decent ....whitley arguably our best midfielder from the 2006 squad injured out and now start back playing with petrotrin ... Yorke retired frm ball period  .... birchy is there but he has injuries and the list goes on ... latas has shadows of what whim had and the younger ones are not stepping up ...imagine our main source of attack relegated to play right back because after all this time we don't have anyone capable of playing it well consistently  ... I ask meh boy today who could we really put in the middle and besides birchy we have no one there who could match birchy work rate defensively far less be an organiser and distributor ... Trent isnt good enough and in fairness to him 33 is a bit old to come in as a rookie and lead this team from the middle when your previous merits is being player of the year in pro league ... trent is a hard working role player he is no play maker  ... our team simply as it is now is not good enough our players are unable to handle it at this level!

A hippo? Wim inherit a team that just went to the world cup but in fairness to him and due to blacklists he was out of his depth
Maturana get the team and the team went to an all time low where he had to call back a 41 yr old latas
who has now become the coach .... in the middle of this failing campaign and I'm a hippo for supporting him
Boy ... boy ... lol


I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.

when we lorse with wim yuh blame wim  with maturana yuh blame him but with latapy nah he is we boy!!! a big hippo

did whim have the world cup players ?? eh well !!!  latapy has them  ent now what he do ???? oh shhhhh turn a blind eye to yuh boy

big man them players were black listed when wim was in charge yuh have short memory eh ... but defend latas ...
Title: Re: Am sorry Latas
Post by: CarenageBoy on September 07, 2009, 06:30:36 AM
Well I see plenty of people that should be saying "ah sorry". T&T newspaper editors are already shamelessly playing the blame game.

That's one thing about my fellow Trinbagonians. They don't know how to support the home team and intimidate the visitors at the stadium. But, they sure know how to beat down our own boys.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: pecan on September 07, 2009, 06:45:36 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



nice insight ..

i recall that when i first joined this forum in 2006, I read many a criticism that was leveled at Beenie for not playing Latapy ... what goes around, comes around ...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 07, 2009, 06:57:10 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



Well done.... :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: TdotTrini on September 07, 2009, 07:30:06 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



Very good insight Palos. Tried to explain Beenie's defensive approach/philosophy to our game to ah padnah. The man was soo pissed, complaining that is not we style and was disappointed the world did see that we can play attacking style football.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: royal on September 07, 2009, 10:00:07 AM
Firing Latapy like all de other coaches is just band aid treatment.The next coach unless Beenie like  will be fired too.You'll realise de only man who couldn't careless about Jack or any player but went by his PERSONAL judgement and assessments is the only one to succeed? So tell me who's de real man to fire.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on September 07, 2009, 10:03:03 AM
Firing Latapy like all de other coaches is just band aid treatment.The next coach unless Beenie like  will be fired too.You'll realise de only man who couldn't careless about Jack or any player but went by his PERSONAL judgement and assessments is the only one to succeed? So tell me who's de real man to fire.

COSIGN
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Controversial on September 07, 2009, 10:14:56 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



Very good insight Palos. Tried to explain Beenie's defensive approach/philosophy to our game to ah padnah. The man was soo pissed, complaining that is not we style and was disappointed the world did see that we can play attacking style football.

good point by palos but it goes deeper than strategy in the wc, its politics... our loss to england was political and was inevitable...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on September 07, 2009, 10:25:05 AM
Firing Latapy like all de other coaches is just band aid treatment.The next coach unless Beenie like  will be fired too.You'll realise de only man who couldn't careless about Jack or any player but went by his PERSONAL judgement and assessments is the only one to succeed? So tell me who's de real man to fire.

 :applause: :applause: :cheers:  :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 08, 2009, 01:40:32 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



Reasonable response.

Since this exchange has proved to be substantive, indulge me one further ... can you identify a poignant juncture versus Sweden or England at which Beenhakker could have/should have inserted Latas, or versus Paraguay inserted him earlier?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Father Abraham on September 08, 2009, 01:21:27 PM
TNT NEEDS A COACH LIKE ENGLAND'S CAPELLO

he would not take any crap from jack warner, he will run the show and he will command trhe respect of the players. yes he strict, he is a different breed but he will get the job done.

the coach has a big part to play to bring out the best from the players and a coach like capello will surely scare the heck out of the players to perform or take the bench. if capello was the coach do u think kj still playing, ha.

i cah say anything about latapy but does he get the respect from the fellas, what is his leadership skills in leading the warriors forward. is he the right coach, i do not think he is of of now, tnt need a more seasoned veteran and latapy can be his understudy. he was given this job prematurely and out of emotion. only the future will tell
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on October 10, 2009, 09:28:50 PM
paging Beenie to groom the 2014 team from today
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on October 10, 2009, 10:08:58 PM
paging Beenie to groom the 2014 team from today

U mean a man wit Beenie balls 2 stand up 2 JW?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dwolfman on October 10, 2009, 10:12:49 PM
Like many of you I too agree with palos, but here's the thing. I think the problem goes beyong Latapy. His approach mirrors the way we view the game. At the U-21 Pan American Male Hockey tournament played here in T&T I listened to a parent of one of the parents cheer on T&T against Argentina to continue to attack with reckless abandon with no concern as to the rising scoreline (eventually ended 8-1). He was happy to see them attack and didn't care that the 8th goal conceded (on a counterattack from one of the open forays forward) put the team in a must win situation against the US team.

We have a mindset here that is slow to change, fiercely protected and encouraged (even when clearly wrong) and far too often is struggling to reinvent the wheel. "Dem cyah tell we how to play football" or "We have plenty talented players" is often the mantra here while we continue to perform poorly.

Why is it our attackers (from schools football right up to the national team) do not put in any defensive work? We still have the mindset that forwards only job is to score goals despite numerous examples of the best attacking players in the world putting in solid defensive shifts. Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi, Henry and Drogba come to mind easily as guys who either defend well or are typically involved defensively in the game.

As long as we continue to live in the dream world that we have cornered the market on talented players and ignore the game and what the good players and teams do we will continue to have unreasonably high expectatins disappointed time after time.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: noize on October 11, 2009, 06:21:26 AM
As much as I hate to admit it... Latas is not ready for this job and if it was any other Coach we would be calling for his head...Latas is the most gifted footballer we ever produced but unfortunately he came in late and just dont have the experience to coach at this level after the next game we need to get a coach with experience and a no nonsense approach for us.... Latas could start with the Under 17 team or something or go abroad and get some experience Coaching ....He is simply over his head and having Jack as your boss cannot be helping.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on October 11, 2009, 06:39:15 AM
Like many of you I too agree with palos, but here's the thing. I think the problem goes beyong Latapy. His approach mirrors the way we view the game. At the U-21 Pan American Male Hockey tournament played here in T&T I listened to a parent of one of the parents cheer on T&T against Argentina to continue to attack with reckless abandon with no concern as to the rising scoreline (eventually ended 8-1). He was happy to see them attack and didn't care that the 8th goal conceded (on a counterattack from one of the open forays forward) put the team in a must win situation against the US team.

We have a mindset here that is slow to change, fiercely protected and encouraged (even when clearly wrong) and far too often is struggling to reinvent the wheel. "Dem cyah tell we how to play football" or "We have plenty talented players" is often the mantra here while we continue to perform poorly.

Why is it our attackers (from schools football right up to the national team) do not put in any defensive work? We still have the mindset that forwards only job is to score goals despite numerous examples of the best attacking players in the world putting in solid defensive shifts. Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi, Henry and Drogba come to mind easily as guys who either defend well or are typically involved defensively in the game.

As long as we continue to live in the dream world that we have cornered the market on talented players and ignore the game and what the good players and teams do we will continue to have unreasonably high expectatins disappointed time after time.

Thank you  :beermug:
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 11, 2009, 10:22:52 AM
So wha we still keeping latapy ...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: King Deese on October 11, 2009, 10:29:05 AM
Maybe, but I have a recommendation for Russell Latapy. If you want to be the best you have to learn from the best forget trying to beat the best, for now.

Latapy, I am shouting from the mountain top. Can you hear me me me me me me. If you don't know what you are doing then you better ask somebody. Call Dunga of Brazil, call Pat Guardiola of Barcelona, call Jose Maurinho of Inter Milan, call Sir Alex Ferguson of Manchester United, call Franz Beckenbauer of Germany fame, call the current head coach of Spain, call Johan Cruff of Holland fame. Ask somebody, plese pick their brain, but by all means don't call Francisco Maturana, don't call Wim Rijsbergen, don't call Oliver Camps, he is clueless and brain dead, don't call Zoran Vranes, don't call Lincoln Phillips, don't call Jack Warner and by all means don't consult yourself. You may have a clue but the players you have selected so far for your team cannot read clues.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Spursy on October 11, 2009, 11:02:55 AM
Maybe, but I have a recommendation for Russell Latapy. If you want to be the best you have to learn from the best forget trying to beat the best, for now.

Latapy, I am shouting from the mountain top. Can you hear me me me me me me. If you don't know what you are doing then you better ask somebody. Call Dunga of Brazil, call Pat Guardiola of Barcelona, call Jose Maurinho of Inter Milan, call Sir Alex Ferguson of Manchester United, call Franz Beckenbauer of Germany fame, call the current head coach of Spain, call Johan Cruff of Holland fame. Ask somebody, plese pick their brain, but by all means don't call Francisco Maturana, don't call Wim Rijsbergen, don't call Oliver Camps, he is clueless and brain dead, don't call Zoran Vranes, don't call Lincoln Phillips, don't call Jack Warner and by all means don't consult yourself. You may have a clue but the players you have selected so far for your team cannot read clues.

Where is De Lippi? Juve great and current world champ?????

I must say it has been a while since TNT have broken down like that in a major game, it was truly not cool.
And for the first time in many years we looked like we can't play this game.
The guys have good reason to be upset in this thread. TNT performance was not good with alot of gleaming eye-openers for instance, after conceding TNT continued to make sloppy mistakes, it was obvious something was going on with Abu Bakr, he should of been taken off at half time.

Also, Thompson was not comfortable in that position he was in clearly..., it showed he expected more from his teamates with constant hard looks "like wow wtf are you guys doing??? LOOKS"  TNT were suppose to be playing for "pride" here but some might have a different meaning to that word like Mr.Latapy. For a young player like Thompson you don't drop him in the fire in hostile community, only a madman would of expected a win in Costa Rica, why start his career with a loss? Why did Dennis Lawrence NOT start?????

Maybe I see things differently from others which is why it's better to say less because the message is written within the game itself and it is a reflection of all the games TNT played in the final hex starting with Costa Rica. From Costa Rica game it is clear some of the players shouldn't be allowed to wear the national shirt after some of the things they did on the pitch with the world watching on. All the good past players have done was washed away in 90 minutes as some scrappy backyard side scrambling to defend a 4-0 scoreline 60?? minutes into the game with 10 men.
 Only one team showed up in Costa Rica looking for a result and asked all the questions without a reply.
Some of the Costa Rican fans were feeling sorry for TNT and could bearly look on, hoping their side won't score more to make the the region look easy. We might lose our .5 spot next 4 years!@!!!

Sorry latas you were a good player, bad coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: najee on October 11, 2009, 01:41:44 PM
I feel like I on a mutiny ship and I have to protect Latas. All yuh fellas butting allyuh head against the wall  ...we lorse  and we lorse bad  .... men go blame latas
because he is the coach even tho he wasn't on the field  ... men go blame ince because he was the goalie he come off he line all kinda shit......as much as I tired of seeing this team play like that sometimes I even more tired ah hearing allyuh boy rant  ....  This is yuh f**king team wether yuh like it or not support or get the f**k out.
Fact vs fiction!
I think we have things in place  Latas and Yorke is we head and assistant coach ...These two is the best TT has ever had and we damn well owe it to them to support them at least early in this stage...they didn't inherit no bomb squad so who vex vex (I wish it had lil smiley symbols for middle fingers)!

Latas ain't afraid to chop and change  and he has to because men haven't  stepped up and claimed their spots if we had won none of you muf**kas woulda said a damn thing. Let's face it we have been riding on yorke  and latas shirt tails for years we even had to bring them out of retirement for us to qualify for the 2006 world cup so lets not get this shit twisted we had to let them go at some point.

Where does blame lie?  This isn't a blame game it solves nothing ...... but here are a few firm things to assess .... to play at this level requires character above all  ... you don't have to play at Yorke level to play at concacaf level and Latas cyah make you go out there and put in extraordinary effort ... you as the player have to make the choice as to wether you gonna chase the man after the ball go over your head (with conviction) or wait to see if Ince go save yuh again  .... Fellas Honduras just hit Costa Rica 4 that nation extremely passionate about their team ...all yuh really feel they was gonna let we walk in their and take three points?  They plan from start to finish was to go at us and come away with what was left of us after they were done it was up to the players on the field to decide wether they were gonna take a whipping and lie down or fight them like (men should) and make this a game.
I remember a concacaf gold cup game we lose to mexico 4-0 in the us and we run mexico to the ground believe it or not i wasn't mad a scoreline never did such injustice the fellas never gave up .... I remember Ronnie Mauge broke his leg playing for us and he played either div 2 or 3 in england he was not even born in Trini ..... I doh have to say a thing about Birchie.

We goh blame marvin and them (and lord knows he does bother meh eye at times) but the truth is he is a bit past his prime and in his prime he gave 150 % but the alternatives are not there. Men go watch the league a few times and see Peltier score a double against some and all of a sudden men doh understand why he not starting or this that and the other none of alyuh there in the training to see what men capable of.

Every coach is gonna have a favorite so doh use that line capello , beenie , latas all of them for what ever reason so please take that shit elsewhere. This team have to take the responsibility of this loss collectively but we have to continue supporting this our team they are showing that they are not good enough as players they are losing individual battles the midfield have the other midfield walking through the middle effectively changing out system to a 4-0-1. What allyuh want latas to do run out on the field, fall on he knees and beg a man to get up after the man beat yuh and track him down and not stand around and hope for another man to stop him. HE CYAH DO THAT MEN HAVE TO STEP ON THEY OWN WTF YOUR MOTHER DOES STILL HOLD YUH HAND WHEN YUH CROSSING THE STREET?

I know men on the team does read these rants and believe meh I doh wah hurt men feelings but as it stand this team is not good  ...  not good and its not because of talent (or lack there of) its because of desire ...you aren't showing that you want it and nobody can make you want it.

Who to blame? Poor wording ....... who is to resolve the issue ... the eleven players who strut out onto that pitch at any given time have to figure it out collectively don't point fingers step up and do your shift if yuh cyah do it step off !
All who think Darryl Roberts or Julius woulda make a difference allyuh dreaming this is a collective mentality and this is built over time and Latas need time because we don't have the kinda talent we used to.



Ngozi...bread i read everyone post...and i didn't hate none...i just wanted to read everyone comment...but your....you had me lol..and crying ah used to say the same thing i don't care who coach the team  went you  have  players with no heart and pride...what the outcome going to be...but Trinibago is my team and my country men.... SO ALL I COULD SAY HEAR WE GO AGAIN
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on October 11, 2009, 02:29:50 PM
KEEP LATAPY RITE WHEY HE IS!!!!!!!!
Why!! he bummin!! so if he's ah darling leff he, but if he's ah foreigner(columbain) run him!
allyuh really eh derseve nutten good, that's BC allyuh love mediocrity! leave him even though he's clueless! and allyuh say allyuh love TNT football. look how dem argentinians go call for maradona head tommorrow, iz dem who love they football.

dat is not wat i sayin JC. i jus want ppl to give latas a chance to show wat he cud do. as weary say, maturana got 14 months to coach we team an all he really did was leave us in a big pile of s**t.

allyuh cah expect latas to clean up maturana mess in d space of three months. i agree wid u where his team selection leavin much to be desired but dat eh warrant me callin 4 he head yet.

at d end of d day JC, u have your opinion on dis latas situation and i have mine.  :beermug:
So tell me something, who clean up sven goran errikson's BIG pile ah sh!t, not javier agguirre??

the man on the job just as long as latas , and he's 3 and i, plus he won the GC against the U.S on U.S. soil by ah huge margin.

that's ah cop out! latas was indeed ah good player , but as the cliche goes, good players seldom make good coaches. i say give him ah GOLD ROLEX and GET RID!

JC I thought that I was the Troll. I guess times changed and so does the song and dance.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on October 11, 2009, 08:31:51 PM
So wha we still keeping latapy ...
he cheap. JW dont have to pay him alot  to coach
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: julie_mango on October 11, 2009, 08:57:17 PM
Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.

Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.


Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: julie_mango on October 11, 2009, 09:03:44 PM
Also, it was pure bullsh!t that Brent Sancho was not on this team, even though he is de only player to score a goal for TnT in a world cup.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on October 11, 2009, 09:18:20 PM
Also, it was pure bullsh!t that Brent Sancho was not on this team, even though he is de only player to score a goal for TnT in a world cup.

Welcome 2 d dance
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on October 11, 2009, 09:57:30 PM
Also, it was pure bullsh!t that Brent Sancho was not on this team, even though he is de only player to score a goal for TnT in a world cup.
:devil:
hear nuh...is orrite ;D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on October 11, 2009, 10:12:15 PM
Also, it was pure bullsh!t that Brent Sancho was not on this team, even though he is de only player to score a goal for TnT in a world cup.
:devil:
hear nuh...is orrite ;D

He/she new we get ovah doh rob d person vent we vent 4 3yrs.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on October 11, 2009, 11:12:09 PM
Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.

Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



This is business, not school yard thing. No coach, none cyah arkse Beenie nothing, because none ah them ever do what Beenie did. So all the talk about Latapy playing is null and void. Beenie is the big man in de bisnezz
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Observer on October 12, 2009, 08:38:25 AM
Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



 :applause:  This is a very well thought out analysis.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 12, 2009, 08:45:23 AM
Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.


Rubbish!!! why would a coach bench a player who can help the team win games thus making him(the coach ) look good ?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Observer on October 12, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.


Rubbish!!! why would a coach bench a player who can help the team win games thus making him(the coach ) look good ?

 :applause:This thread proving inspirational
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: injunchile on October 12, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
It is not about Latapy as a player it is about Latapy as a coach. Maybe familiarity breeds contempt and a foreign coach can get out of these players what latas has failed to do.. I still believe with the right combination of youth and experience we should be in S/A. Had we built on the Mexico game we still would have been in the mix. Well as the good book says- Forgetting what lies behind and pressing forward to what lies ahead- We press on towards the Goal- Brazil here we come.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: julie_mango on October 12, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
Padnah, one simple question, after Beenie arrived, we lost two more games in 2006 quaalifications, one simple question and a yes or no would suffice, do you think we would have reached Germany had Latapy not arrive in 2006 quals?

Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.


Rubbish!!! why would a coach bench a player who can help the team win games thus making him(the coach ) look good ?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on October 12, 2009, 10:13:53 PM
Julie Mango...the answer is NO...we would not have made the WC...watch the tapes
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on October 12, 2009, 10:25:36 PM
If shyte was sugar we would not have known about Caroni.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kingdavid on October 13, 2009, 09:05:44 AM
David attiba Charles jus came in my office, was kinda surprised to see him, we shared some views on d youths in d morvant area and tryin to get a coaching school back in our community, to help the crime. anyway while tlking to him his phone ring and he was like "clyde, is clyde leon calling" and this is the convo he had with him.

DAC- clyde was d scene yuh came back from yuh cut arse lol

CL- yea boy dem fellas too slow

DAC- dey to slow?

CL- yea abu real slow and he dont listen

then he was advising CL to take a coaching course so he can get in coaching after football.

and i asked him "so wat u think fire Latapy or not"
he responded and said "i think he needs time cause its only been 5 games and he came in wen the team was down but i think he should be givin a chance"
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on October 13, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
(http://www.trinidadexpress.com/shared/images/2009/08/11/s1.jpg)
CAMPS: Take ah drink yuh f00cker, yuh last game coming in October 2009.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on November 13, 2009, 08:07:59 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on November 15, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

Playing Golf. Latapy them eh easy nah.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 15, 2009, 02:29:27 PM
international break and not one game arranged !!!1
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on November 15, 2009, 05:08:06 PM
international break and not one game arranged !!!1

All yuh like 2 fret in d middle ah d campaign we eh get friendly all yuh expect dem now. Nutten till DigiCup and yuh eh cind d foreign base till GC 2009. Say d serenity prayer and get a grip.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2009, 08:04:12 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

What a waste of a coach.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on November 24, 2009, 08:22:55 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
about 1.7m
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sando on November 24, 2009, 08:30:34 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
about 1.7m

He diving....?

Man getting paid to play Golf and Dive.

And then Jack Warner will beg the government for money to pay Latapy's salary come January 2010.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on November 24, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
about 1.7m

He diving....?

Man getting paid to play Golf and Dive.

And then Jack Warner will beg the government for money to pay Latapy's salary come January 2010.

The man spending time with he son on the golf course. Nothing eh wrong with that, TTFF promoting strong family ties.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Spursy on November 24, 2009, 11:37:30 AM
Palos,

Padnah, I hear what yuh sayin but de bottom line is as much as you want to agree with Beenie for benching Latas at the 2006 WC, I say that was BS!  Yuh know why, we wouldah nevah win against Guatemala, and the three games when Latas reach for we to qualify, is because ah he, LATAS, phu*ue Beenie, that we reach 2006.  After Beenie and Yorke was there, we were still losing and our way out of 2006 qualification, it is only aftah de Magician reach, we start tuh win and we were given a chance to qualify in 2006.

Same in this campaign, after Latas start tuh play, he scored that goal to put we in the final 6.  Now, I agree, from my German way of believing the way football should be coached and played, Latas, I agree with you is ah shithound coach, but please realize that without Latas, we wouldah NEVAH touch de ground in Germany, and without Latas at 40 on de field for 2010 quals, we had no chance after he became coach, he is de greatest footballer we have had and it is only because when Latas arrive for 2006 qualifications, that we start tuh win and he stole Beenie thundah that Beenie start tuh bench him.  Doh give meh no tork about weed and thing, without Latas, Germany would not have happenned, end of story.

I do agree that he is too caught up in his way of play and want to put his magic into the rest of the team, impossible, yuh born with that, the minute he start benching Birchall, I had my doubts about him as coach.

Palos, I am in agreement with respect to comments on the defensive posture of the team. However, as to the part in bold, ah charging yuh with elasticity dey ... at least until yuh bring support to defend that assertion. Please explain how Latas being on the field (under a different coaching philosophy) would have stretched to a thorough compromise of our defensive integrity. In responding, please assume I understand his liabilities as a two-way player.

I believe Latas' coaching philosophy is closely aligned to his philosophy as a player.  Attacking, creative football.  Not to regurgitate this for the umpteenth time, but you asked so I'll respond.  I believe the reason why Beenie did not play Latas all that much in WC 2006 is because by him being on the team, he MAY have compromised the defensive integrity of the team.

Make no mistake about it.  Our team was structured in such a manner to try and prevent the opposition from scoring.  To do so, an emphasis on defensive discipline AT ALL TIMES had to be maintained throughout the 90 minutes.  Whatever goalscoring opportunities that would come our way would more than likely come off of a set piece or counter attack.  It wasn't likely to come from any creative source that we had.  To do so would be to expose an already fragile defensive mindset and given the results in our warm up matches against decent european opposition (comprehensive losses to Slovakia and Czech Republic) it was clear our only chance of relative success was to play "anti football" as Arsene Wenger puts it.

When Latas came on against paraguay, we immediately looked a better team going forward.  We were already behind it's true but in so doing, we were increasingly vulnerable to the counter and at that level, you're going to get punished SEVERELY.  The team responds to Latas' presence on the field.  They lift their level of play....but not in the defensive part of the game and our discipline breaks down because men caught up in feeding off of Latas.

This mindset on creative attacking football neglecting the very important aspect of what needs to be done when playing without the ball is what I'm referring to.  We all marvel at Barca and rave about their attacking football.  But watch them when the opposition has the ball and see the discipline. 

I had the pleasure & privilege to sit with some coaches this past weekend watching the Spain vs Belgium game and they pointed out how Spain had 3 men around the ball everytime the opposition had possession.  They said every player buys into the philosophy and the philosophy is simple.  They rather run short hard sprints for 5 - 10 yards than run back 50 yards to catch a player in possession.  And EVERYBODY does it.  From striker to defender.  From Torres to Puyol.  The training is anaerobic.  Short wind sprints.  Sharp, Fast.  Of course, this is harder to do in very hot climates but it's the way the game is played now.  Dem men say Spain play football from a different planet.  Their movement was incredible.  Belgium had NO CHANCE.  And to their credit, they said so before the kickoff.

We don't have anywhere near that level of discipline.



Every single TNT player helped us to reach Germany. Sure latas helped us get past Guatemala but who go us past Bahrain?
Stop trying to defend a horrible coach. Latas was a good player, that is it. That is all.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on November 25, 2009, 03:44:11 PM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

What a waste of a coach.
last time is see him wining up on a girl with dreads
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on November 25, 2009, 06:03:41 PM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

What a waste of a coach.
last time is see him wining up on a girl with dreads

Ah Reds nah.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on November 26, 2009, 12:19:27 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
Why don't you set up another interview with him and ask yourself?   ;D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on November 26, 2009, 05:27:32 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
Why don't you set up another interview with him and ask yourself?   ;D

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes Sam, please give we another "interview"....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kounty on November 26, 2009, 12:09:58 PM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
Why don't you set up another interview with him and ask yourself?   ;D

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes Sam, please give we another "interview"....
tripple cosign!1  :beermug:   :D
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on November 26, 2009, 07:44:44 PM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?
Why don't you set up another interview with him and ask yourself?   ;D

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes Sam, please give we another "interview"....
tripple cosign!1  :beermug:   :D
Sam
you eh MAN if you dont do that "interview" :devil:
ah pushin HARD
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Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on January 04, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
Anybody know where Latapy gone !!! 3 months now, no training or playing any games. The TT proleague is over and shouldn't we take advantage of this. ?

Ah feel ah go ring him and see if I can get another interview for real..

Just goes to show you good players don't always make good coaches.

You have to have Brian, Belly and Balls (BBB).....
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on January 04, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
Anybody know where Latapy gone !!! 3 months now, no training or playing any games. The TT proleague is over and shouldn't we take advantage of this. ?

Ah feel ah go ring him and see if I can get another interview for real..

Just goes to show you good players don't always make good coaches.

You have to have Brian, Belly and Balls (BBB).....

Williams....?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: FF on January 04, 2010, 12:54:23 PM
Anybody know where Latapy gone !!! 3 months now, no training or playing any games. The TT proleague is over and shouldn't we take advantage of this. ?

Ah feel ah go ring him and see if I can get another interview for real..

Just goes to show you good players don't always make good coaches.

You have to have Brian, Belly and Balls (BBB).....

Williams....?


nah Brian... you need a good sidekick

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Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on March 28, 2010, 06:12:44 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

Even Grenada playing friendlies.....

It has been almost 6 months we senior team inactive for.

AH feel we go make history this year in de Caribbean cup again, hopefully we group with Grenada again.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: elan on March 28, 2010, 07:37:34 AM
Anybody know what Latapy up to these days ?

Even Grenada playing friendlies.....

It has been almost 6 months we senior team inactive for.

AH feel we go make history this year in de Caribbean cup again, hopefully we group with Grenada again.

When Latapy done with them boys men we beating everybody going and coming. We hiiting JA about 5 and that's at the orfice
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: dreamer on March 28, 2010, 08:37:41 AM
The poll results are interesting and informative :thinking:
Title: The challenge for Latapy
Post by: Tallman on April 05, 2010, 06:45:17 AM
The challenge for Latapy
By Ashford Jackman (T&T Review)


Few in the know, if any, would dispute that in team sport, no one faces greater pressure and do so more consistently than the coach; and in the scheme of things, perhaps no team coach faces as much pressure as a football coach. Football managers are surrounded by dissenters: players that have been overlooked or out of favour; aspiring rivals who want the job for themselves, a critical media and a fan base that demands victory and nothing else. In the course of fending off all these challenges, the coach cannot lose sight of his original intended occupation- planning for and defeating the rival teams in competition.

It can be a well-paid, but nerve-wracking profession; one needs look no further than the English Premier League and Liverpools Rafael Benitez, or the World Cup-bound Argentina and Diego Maradona as prime examples. Whether their fan base extends outside the country, as in the case of Europes biggest clubs, or whether it is a combination of a formidable national population intoxicated by a rich history of international success, the weight of expectation on the men in charge can be overwhelming.

Here in T&T, the population is miniscule in comparison and our history of performance is modest at best; but expectation is no less a cross to bear. That was the cup from which Russell Latapy chose to sup and the crown of thorns the little man accepted when he was recently re-appointed to lead Trinidad and Tobago out of footballs doldrums and into the promised land of the 2014 World Cup. He holds the reigns of a runaway wagon- a broken team in transition, needing to part ways sooner rather than later with ageing but reluctant heroes of the past who pulled off a back-door qualification act into the FIFA Finals in Germany, just over four years ago. It is a team which has failed to qualify for its Confederations championship finals, the Gold Cup; one whose performance in the recent 2010 World Cup qualifiers was depressingly poor; a team struggling for respect inside its own confederation- unable to draw friendly matches against anyone but stragglers like El Salvador, Haiti, The Bahamas, Jamaica and Grenada.
 
Latapy had already tasted of the cups bitter contents, and the diversity of opinions expressed in all arms of the local media, in the weeks leading to the announcement, would have left him in no doubt as to the precariousness of his position, and the consequences of failure to produce positive results almost immediately. At the moment, few, if any T&T supporters will dispute the argument that our senior team is going nowhere. As in all other football-crazed nations, support for his selection will not see the light of many days unless the team begins to win, and win consistently. That is his challenge, and the challenge anyone else who might have won the nod would have had to face. It is in the execution of that responsibility that Latapy will be judged, and on nothing less.

In the build-up to the TTFFs decision, it was ironically Russell Latapys outstanding career as a player that stood greatest in his way; critics raised the argument, justifiably, that great players do not great coaches make. The list is almost endless: before the struggling Maradona, another World Cup-winning Argentina captain, Daniel Passarella endured the same horrors with the South American giants. Zico had to quit at Udinese; Ruud Gullitt tried and failed at Chelsea , and his partner Marco Van Basten flopped with the Dutch national team. Johan Cruyff endured a series of hot and cold results with Ajax and Barcelona, and Bernd Schuster, the brilliant West German midfielder of the 1980s, had to depart Real Madrid under the weight of a series of unfavourable results. Thankfully, Pele and Platini never tried. There have been exceptions, of course: Franz Beckenbauer lost and won successive World Cup finals at the helm of Germany, in 1986 and 1990; but his teams were always brutally efficient, never attractive, and the facts are that that is the kind of football that wins tournaments in the modern game.

Arguably, that is also why the combative Carlos Dunga, the most un-Samba-esque of player in eight glorious decades of Brasilian World Cup magic has managed such consistency with his national team. Experts and analysts have tagged the move away from all-out attacking football from as far back as 1954, following the extravagances and follies of the World Cup that year in Switzerland. The game, to use an oxymoron, has grown progressively defensive; some of the landmark changes were Brasils four-two-four in 1958, Englands four-four-two in 66 and West Germanys five-four-one in 74. And we cannot forget the disappointment of 1990, when Argentina had the dubious honour of becoming the first team in a World Cup final that failed to score (and had two players sent off in the bargain); and what about the 1994 final in which the football world endured the unprecedented disaster of a championship match without a single goal in 120 minutes? Not by coincidence, Dunga was Brasils defensive midfielder in that final when a penalty-spot shootout decided who would wear the crown as the best football team in the world.
 
The gulf between Dunga and Latapy could not be greater. If the world outside of the Concacaf, Portugal and Scotland knew little or nothing about the Wee Magician, it was given a brief but exhilarating cameo in Germany 2006 when Latas set the field afire in the 24 minutes or so that Leo Beenhakker grudgingly allowed the veteran genius against Paraguay, and only when all hope of advancing to the second round had been lost. Admittedly, Beenhakkers reservations were somewhat justified- Latapys entrance would only ignite an attacking fervour into a unit Don Leo had worked so hard to weld into a hard core defensive shell- a risk that, once it did not produce results (a goal) could end only one way- Paraguay scoring a decisive second on the counter-attack.
   
It is that open-mindedness of spirit, that belief that winning requires a positive approach that has been the bane of Maradona, Cruyff and many other geniuses whose forays into management have met ill fates; it is the risk that Jack Warner and the TTFF have taken in renewing Latapys contract. Perhaps they took into consideration that another T&T legend almost managed to beat the odds; in 1988-89, it was Everald Cummings who took a struggling T&T from almost nothing to within one point of World Cup 1990. Gally was no ordinary player, having held his own in the Mexican and North American Soccer Leagues- a man who was named tournament MVP when Trinidad and Tobago were so infamously cheated out of a World Cup berth at the Concacaf playoffs in Haiti 1973.
 
What weighs in Russells favour is the timeliness of his re-appointment; whereas his initial instalment came in the midst of the final stage of 2010 qualifying, this time around he has ample opportunity to cut and change, to source and assess newcomers and to adopt a style and approach to playing. In this respect, the football authorities must be applauded; whatever the merits of their choices, they have at least been made, and there is no threat of repeat of the most recent fiasco- when the national team was left in limbo following the unofficial blacklisting of players caught up in a dispute over bonuses, when a total stranger (Colombian Francisco Maturana) was brought in at the eleventh hour in hopes that he could weave some magic and take T&T to the finals in South Africa later this year.

In this respect, the pressures Russell endured in 2009 should now work in his favour; he has already given exposure to a couple of young players who have responded with encouraging performances- defender Radanfah Abu Bakr and winger Hayden Tinto. Both young men acquitted themselves well in the midst of chaos and confusion, after Maturana was belatedly given the sack, and with all hope of qualification hanging onto a mathematical thread.

One expects the country will support Latas, but only for so long. He has been quoted as stating that he will be relying on the home-based players only at this time; a natural decision, given that those based in Europe and even the United States have developed a habit of showing interest only for the big tournaments. The situation is an opportunity for those nationals who will be campaigning in the TT Pro League when it opens later this month; a chance to prove that commitment and availability are more valuable than being a registered playing member of a club in some nether division of the English or Scottish leagues.  The order of challenges is pre-ordained; there must be friendly matches to test the squad, and these could begin against regional opposition, but of necessity must step up to the level of Concacaf powerhouses like Costa Rica and the United States. After good preparation, nothing less than winning the Caribbean Championship and going on to a creditable performance at the Gold Cup would suffice. If he succeeds, Latapy would then have the support of the country to take us into qualifying for the FIFA World Cup finals in 2014. If he can do that, we would be rid of the depressing and exasperating practice of importing strangers at the last moment in the hope of pulling off a miraculous qualification act. Clearly, it is far more than just his personal reputation at stake.

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Title: Re: The challenge for Latapy
Post by: injunchile on April 05, 2010, 08:46:12 AM
Tell me one point that is new in this article. The dye has been cast and no one expects instant results but games against quality opposition . In Latapy's plus side is the fact that he knows the past and present pool of players. His  coaching ability will be judged on how he can spot players to play at the international level and keep them focused on the goal ahead.
 Well It's Easter let us hope for a Resurrection of this team.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on April 22, 2010, 09:26:03 AM
so any games yet people we eh play a game since November... I guess warner to busy with this election ... 
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on April 22, 2010, 10:27:31 AM
so any games yet people we eh play a game since November... I guess warner to busy with this election ... 

Be patient when d man cyah multi task. He wukin on winnin d election once he in power d cries of no money 4 football will b over. We go b qualifyin for 2014 easy. We go have friendly comin out ah we ears.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on April 22, 2010, 11:07:49 AM
so any games yet people we eh play a game since November... I guess warner to busy with this election ... 

Be patient when d man cyah multi task. He wukin on winnin d election once he in power d cries of no money 4 football will b over. We go b qualifyin for 2014 easy. We go have friendly comin out ah we ears.

yeah and them blacklist players screwed
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: madness on April 22, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
why display this old thread
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: kounty on June 04, 2010, 03:16:53 AM
anybody notice any improvement in the brand of t&t football? sometimes I does feel we would have played this level without a coach - 11 professional ballers decide to come together and 'make a side'. right now I really have no confidence that anything going to improve under latapy...at any level. still give him more time?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: madness on June 04, 2010, 08:03:57 AM
this is the most silly thread ever. we never give latas a chance to prove himself.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: jai john on June 04, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
this is the most silly thread ever. we never give latas a chance to prove himself.

Is the senior national team the forum for that opportunity ? Just wondering if he so needed to prove himself if that should not have happened before he was appointed senior national coach ...
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 04, 2010, 04:42:39 PM
this is the most silly thread ever. we never give latas a chance to prove himself.

So what happen to the just recent WC qualifying campaign?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on June 04, 2010, 04:48:04 PM
all ya real hard on Latas oui
they just had a match with a REAL BIG SIDE from the TnT Digicel Pro League, the one the only, Caledonia AIA.
anyone geh de score as yet :devil:

Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 04, 2010, 05:49:21 PM
I promise never to watch a tnt game if bleeder aka theobald in the squad.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 04, 2010, 06:05:50 PM
I promise never to watch a tnt game if bleeder aka theobald in the squad.

Why?
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Babalawo on June 04, 2010, 06:08:28 PM
I promise never to watch a tnt game if bleeder aka theobald in the squad.

Why?
wikipedia shithound and you'll see why
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: WestCoast on June 04, 2010, 06:26:43 PM
I promise never to watch a tnt game if bleeder aka theobald in the squad.

Why?
wikipedia shithound and you'll see why
eh??
I mus be gorn too long oui
care to expalin
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on June 29, 2010, 03:57:43 PM
October till now, 2 games, one vs pro league team Cali and one vs Chile.

Since March first, Latapy reappointment, we have been stagnant.

Isn't is nice to be the coach of T&T, getting paid to sit back and smoke cigarettes.

Since April 2009 to now = 14 months Latapy building, by de time he done de World Trade Center go finish.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: fitzinho on June 29, 2010, 11:48:04 PM
alyuh sure the man geting paid??
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Sam on July 03, 2010, 06:50:36 AM
alyuh sure the man geting paid??

Latapy is a pussy coach. He should drop coaching and start minding duck.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on July 03, 2010, 06:52:10 AM
hav a pardner playin wit national u20...says they on this 3-5-2 rite thru...wen he ask y they say thaz wat d senior natl team playin so they drivin it in dem now...also say is rel politickin in d u20 as dey does only favour d south men even tho some ah dem clearly not good
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: just cool on July 03, 2010, 07:21:24 AM
Imagine, in this day and age and them ppl still thinking along the lines of region and nepotism like is 1910.  stuepsss.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 03, 2010, 05:05:42 PM
Well is a while i read something on the national team !!! so depressing
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on July 04, 2010, 03:22:37 AM
Latas have no credentials as a coach. Most great players do not make good coaches. Dunga and Maradonna are recent prime examples. Sadly, Latas tenure as coach is likely to end in heartbreak. Willing to be proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 04, 2010, 07:02:14 AM
Latas have no credentials as a coach. Most great players do not make good coaches. Dunga and Maradonna are recent prime examples. Sadly, Latas tenure as coach is likely to end in heartbreak. Willing to be proven otherwise.

what makes dunga or maradonna  a bad coaches
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Controversial on July 04, 2010, 10:17:05 AM
ah hear Latas get this after dinner at Ka Pok

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Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on July 04, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
Latas have no credentials as a coach. Most great players do not make good coaches. Dunga and Maradonna are recent prime examples. Sadly, Latas tenure as coach is likely to end in heartbreak. Willing to be proven otherwise.

what makes dunga or maradonna  a bad coaches

Maradonna clueless. He just happened to have good players to work with. But he failed to have any meaningful strategy. When Germany was kicking their butt, what was Maradonna strategy to nullify the germans counteracting strategy? What subs did he make that had an impact? Millito remained on de bench.

Dunga in de same boat. They are one dimentional. That is fine when yuh team winning, but when you down and need to change strategy, both are clueless. Sorry to say, but that is how most former top players coach. Take look, the coaches of Spain, Holland, Germany, Ghana and Uruguay did not reaches the top of their sport, but are doing a fine job as coaches.

BTW Capello is also an ex-Italian international. Point proven!
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Midknight on July 04, 2010, 03:50:47 PM
BTW Capello is also an ex-Italian international. Point proven!

Check out Capello C.V., wheel and come again.

England full ah hounds, end of story.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on July 04, 2010, 04:26:42 PM
BTW Capello is also an ex-Italian international. Point proven!

Check out Capello C.V., wheel and come again.

England full ah hounds, end of story.
Disagree. Capello won league titles with teams that many other managers has also won with. AC Millan and who Real Madrid (steups). Like winning titles with those teams is the hardest thing in the world. Now if he had won the world cup with a 'bunch of shit hounds', then he would get a big up.

Seriously, look at the top coaches in the world. Most were not top players.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Deeks on July 04, 2010, 04:55:12 PM
Latas have no credentials as a coach. Most great players do not make good coaches. Dunga and Maradonna are recent prime examples. Sadly, Latas tenure as coach is likely to end in heartbreak. Willing to be proven otherwise.

what makes dunga or maradonna  a bad coaches

Maradonna clueless. He just happened to have good players to work with. But he failed to have any meaningful strategy. When Germany was kicking their butt, what was Maradonna strategy to nullify the germans counteracting strategy? What subs did he make that had an impact? Millito remained on de bench.

Dunga in de same boat. They are one dimentional. That is fine when yuh team winning, but when you down and need to change strategy, both are clueless. Sorry to say, but that is how most former top players coach. Take look, the coaches of Spain, Holland, Germany, Ghana and Uruguay did not reaches the top of their sport, but are doing a fine job as coaches.

BTW Capello is also an ex-Italian international. Point proven!



Bro,
        There is some validity to the theory that not all super stars make good coaches. But to say that they are clueless is crazy. Look, Brazil and Germany has had WC winning players win WC as coaches. Alf Ramsey played for England. Although not a WC winner as a player he coached the 1966 WC team. This is Diego and Dunga first time as coaches. Spain and Ghana coaches have been coaching far longer than them. I don't know much about Uraguay, Holland, Germany coaches. But the verdict still out on them
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on July 04, 2010, 11:18:27 PM
Latas have no credentials as a coach. Most great players do not make good coaches. Dunga and Maradonna are recent prime examples. Sadly, Latas tenure as coach is likely to end in heartbreak. Willing to be proven otherwise.

what makes dunga or maradonna  a bad coaches

Maradonna clueless. He just happened to have good players to work with. But he failed to have any meaningful strategy. When Germany was kicking their butt, what was Maradonna strategy to nullify the germans counteracting strategy? What subs did he make that had an impact? Millito remained on de bench.

Dunga in de same boat. They are one dimentional. That is fine when yuh team winning, but when you down and need to change strategy, both are clueless. Sorry to say, but that is how most former top players coach. Take look, the coaches of Spain, Holland, Germany, Ghana and Uruguay did not reaches the top of their sport, but are doing a fine job as coaches.

BTW Capello is also an ex-Italian international. Point proven!



Bro,
        There is some validity to the theory that not all super stars make good coaches. But to say that they are clueless is crazy. Look, Brazil and Germany has had WC winning players win WC as coaches. Alf Ramsey played for England. Although not a WC winner as a player he coached the 1966 WC team. This is Diego and Dunga first time as coaches. Spain and Ghana coaches have been coaching far longer than them. I don't know much about Uraguay, Holland, Germany coaches. But the verdict still out on them

I am not saying that no top players will ever make a good coach, as I know Rikaard and Beckenbauer has also done OK. But it is usually the exception than the rule. I maintain that Dunga and Maradonna are clueless as coaches. Let's see where their careers go from here.
Title: Re: Fire Russell Latapy Thread.
Post by: Red Mango on July 05, 2010, 07:00:34 AM
I think, that if Latas identifies a creative playmaker (Leston Paul) and builds the spine of the squad through him, and the rest of the squad around that, then with the necessary defensive discipline, midfield awareness, comment and distribution, to an attack that is only conc