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Title: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 18, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
(http://soccerlens.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/fcb.gif) (http://www.soccerfiesta.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/real_madrid_logo.jpg)


Barcelona - Camp Nou
Sunday kickoff
19:00 Barcelona / 1pm U.S. eastern


Standing after 16 rounds
1st - R.Madrid ........ 38 pts
2nd - Barça ............ 34

Last four Liga meetings
2006-07:
Barça 3-3 R.Madrid
R.Madrid 2-0 Barça
2005-06:
Barça 1-1 R.Madrid
R.Madrid 0-3 Barça

Bad news for Barca fans, looks like Messi will be out injured for a while. Eto'o is back so it looks like either Dos Santos or Iniesta will be playing out on the right.

Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: gothic on December 18, 2007, 01:47:40 PM
as a Madrid fan i much prefer to see Messi on de field than Eto'o

that man does never treat Madrid right
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 18, 2007, 02:10:08 PM
as a Madrid fan i much prefer to see Messi on de field than Eto'o

that man does never treat Madrid right

lol I want to see both, so when we beat them we'll know we beat dey full squad...in the Camp Nou!


But Disgruntled...why Barca logo so much bigger than Madrid's? Ah doh like dah.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 18, 2007, 02:25:04 PM
Head to Head History

Team       Win Draw Loss Goals for
Real Madrid 66   30    58 255
FC Barcelona58  30    66 234
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 18, 2007, 02:34:50 PM
Lets Go Ruud

Ruud 2  Barca 0
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 18, 2007, 02:48:38 PM
Lets Go Ruud

Ruud 2  Barca 0

So the rumours are true.  :D You are a RM closet fan.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: ZionYouth on December 18, 2007, 08:11:42 PM
I will have tuh go wit madrid on dis 1...ah tink barcelona fans in for ah dissapointment.. :o
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 18, 2007, 08:18:22 PM
WELL look how eto spoiling men christmas
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 19, 2007, 06:13:31 AM
All lovers of the beautiful game need to tune-in this Sunday to La Liga. El Super Clasico is one of the greatest showcases of football. I'm looking foward to an exciting match and a Barca win.

I came across this on Wikipedia (juss for effect)

"almost all the ideas that have shaped Spain's modern history - republicanism, federalism, anarchism, syndicalism and communism - have found their way into Spain by way of Catalonia. Fashions, whether in clothing, philosophy or art, have tended to take root in Barcelona before they gained acceptance in Madrid. The whole city seems very active, and is at ease with itself."

FC Barcelona became more than a club (més que un club) for Catalonia because of its connection to the democratic ideas. On the contrary, for most of the Catalans and many other Spaniards, Real Madrid was regarded as the establishment club
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: SHOTTA on December 19, 2007, 06:55:50 AM
i will be takin this one in inside bootleggers on sunday fire bun madrid
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: fishs on December 19, 2007, 07:36:40 AM
 Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 19, 2007, 07:55:11 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.

not in spain breds..

last season ended 3-3 with messi scoring a hattrick.. also like u forgot ronaldinho's hattrick in front the bernabeu.. or the other recent one that ended 2-2..

i feel i will take this in bootleggers if i eh get tie up with last minute house chores or finish shopping.. oh shit, that mall will be thunder on sunday..

steups, espn should really buy the rights u know..
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: FF on December 19, 2007, 09:57:26 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.

You watching too much premiership football...

tell him dey omar.....
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 19, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.

 :o
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on December 19, 2007, 11:16:53 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.

yuh must learn to read and understand

in the opening post yuh would see that 13 goals were score in the last 4 games

what damn dotishness yuh talking
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: WestCoast on December 19, 2007, 11:19:25 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.
listen to me good Fishs....
is Wim have you so :devil: :rotfl: :-*
OH Have a Great Christmas ;)

Go Barca!!!!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: breezers on December 19, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
WELL look how eto spoiling men christmas

Dun Noe!! Like dey fuhget who is de rell do it man..ask muh boi Roberto Carlos...lol

MADRID HAM & TURKEY COOK!!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 19, 2007, 01:32:01 PM
Zidane Tips Madrid To Beat Barça
 
Zinedine Zidane has tipped Real Madrid to win el Clásico this weekend, but recognised that in games between the two Spanish league giants there are rarely favourites.



The French legend was talking at an Adidas function when he revealed his thoughts about Sunday's game in Camp Nou and stated that he is looking forward to it.

With just four points separating the two teams and both going into the match on the back of victories, Zidane foresees a tough contest.

"It is a difficult game because the two teams that are playing are both outstanding and sometimes Real Madrid are favourites and other times Barcelona," he said.

Despite that, Zidane then tipped his former club to just edge the game because he thinks that Bernd Schuster's side are so difficult to beat at the moment.

"I think the game will be a very good one and I expect Real Madrid to win," he continued. "They are the favourites me because I just cannot see them losing.

Reflecting on his own experience of playing Barça, Zidane cited the 2001-02 Champions League semi final win in Camp Nou as his favourite game.

He was then asked about whether the Blaugrana can fit all their star names, such as Ronaldinho, Thierry Henry, Samuel Eto'o and Lionel Messi, into the team when they are all fit.

"What is happening at Barcelona could happen at any club because they say there are too many stars, but I do not think that will affect them," he explained.

"They are all outstanding players and when they play together they could do great things."

Lucas Brown, Goal.com
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: breezers on December 19, 2007, 01:36:29 PM
Zidane Tips Madrid To Beat Barça
 
Zinedine Zidane has tipped Real Madrid to win el Clásico this weekend, but recognised that in games between the two Spanish league giants there are rarely favourites.



The French legend was talking at an Adidas function when he revealed his thoughts about Sunday's game in Camp Nou and stated that he is looking forward to it.

With just four points separating the two teams and both going into the match on the back of victories, Zidane foresees a tough contest.

"It is a difficult game because the two teams that are playing are both outstanding and sometimes Real Madrid are favourites and other times Barcelona," he said.

Despite that, Zidane then tipped his former club to just edge the game because he thinks that Bernd Schuster's side are so difficult to beat at the moment.

"I think the game will be a very good one and I expect Real Madrid to win," he continued. "They are the favourites me because I just cannot see them losing.

Reflecting on his own experience of playing Barça, Zidane cited the 2001-02 Champions League semi final win in Camp Nou as his favourite game.

He was then asked about whether the Blaugrana can fit all their star names, such as Ronaldinho, Thierry Henry, Samuel Eto'o and Lionel Messi, into the team when they are all fit.

"What is happening at Barcelona could happen at any club because they say there are too many stars, but I do not think that will affect them," he explained.

"They are all outstanding players and when they play together they could do great things."

Lucas Brown, Goal.com

Well if i was Zizou ah woulda say de same ting too but he kno deep down wuh is de rell scene.....he jus eh man enough to say it ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: fishs on December 19, 2007, 11:01:49 PM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.

yuh must learn to read and understand

in the opening post yuh would see that 13 goals were score in the last 4 games

what damn dotishness yuh talking

Still boring.
Better to spend yuh time making pastelle. Allyuh latin lovers
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: fishs on December 19, 2007, 11:25:29 PM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.
listen to me good Fishs....
is Wim have you so :devil: :rotfl: :-*
OH Have a Great Christmas ;)

Go Barca!!!!

Men in here cyar take a lil sarcasm. That is how the big games in the EPL does turn out ah was jus trying to see if anybody woulda pick it up an " wrong league bredda try EPL" one man do it disgruntled being his normal stupid level get into the trash talk . Say what is ah stripes ting wth he.

Then again he could be ah secret Wim lover an think I have something to do with unsubstantiated rumours that when they had the last forum they could not find him because he was back home in Amsterdam.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 07:28:33 AM
The last Classico...it doesn't get better than this (although Madrid deserved to win).

Barca 3 RM 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIcT4w_Mao
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 07:52:51 AM
Barca Cules will like this. It's a video of the reactions of the RM players, coach and fans when Ronaldinho went on a rampage and scored that hat trick at the Bernabeu. The song is pretty funny too.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_uzPyaUW0
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 20, 2007, 08:07:06 AM
Big games like these does always turn out to be boring draws or 1-0 results.
listen to me good Fishs....
is Wim have you so :devil: :rotfl: :-*
OH Have a Great Christmas ;)

Go Barca!!!!

Men in here cyar take a lil sarcasm. That is how the big games in the EPL does turn out ah was jus trying to see if anybody woulda pick it up an " wrong league bredda try EPL" one man do it disgruntled being his normal stupid level get into the trash talk . Say what is ah stripes ting wth he.

Then again he could be ah secret Wim lover an think I have something to do with unsubstantiated rumours that when they had the last forum they could not find him because he was back home in Amsterdam.

fishs you feel you smart eh...   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 20, 2007, 09:46:49 AM
The last Classico...it doesn't get better than this (although Madrid deserved to win).

Barca 3 RM 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIcT4w_Mao
Oh gor Toppa why yuh wicked so ? Ronnie had a clear penalty denied in injury time. Barca controlled large portions of that game and also missed several chances.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 10:38:26 AM
The last Classico...it doesn't get better than this (although Madrid deserved to win).

Barca 3 RM 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIcT4w_Mao
Oh gor Toppa why yuh wicked so ? Ronnie had a clear penalty denied in injury time. Barca controlled large portions of that game and also missed several chances.

lol Nah horse, Real missed more chances than Barca and it took a one-man goal by Messi to steal the game from Real.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 20, 2007, 12:37:42 PM
The last Classico...it doesn't get better than this (although Madrid deserved to win).

Barca 3 RM 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIcT4w_Mao
Oh gor Toppa why yuh wicked so ? Ronnie had a clear penalty denied in injury time. Barca controlled large portions of that game and also missed several chances.

lol Nah horse, Real missed more chances than Barca and it took a one-man goal by Messi to steal the game from Real.

Wha bout de foul dat lead up to real first goal dat de ref didnt call?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: FF on December 20, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
The last Classico...it doesn't get better than this (although Madrid deserved to win).

Barca 3 RM 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIcT4w_Mao
Oh gor Toppa why yuh wicked so ? Ronnie had a clear penalty denied in injury time. Barca controlled large portions of that game and also missed several chances.

lol Nah horse, Real missed more chances than Barca and it took a one-man goal by Messi to steal the game from Real.

Wha bout de foul dat lead up to real first goal dat de ref didnt call?


Allyuh like excuse eh.... wey sahh!!

Real shoulda win that game 5-0...  lemmeh hear allyuh now...  :P
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 20, 2007, 02:19:31 PM
rikarrd smoke ah hard one that day .........his 1st mistake was 2 start with a 4-3-3 formation. madrid fortunes changed significantly after this game  stupesssss. ah still vex.

hope he ent pull no stupid stunt like that this year, else ah pelting mi ham bone through d tv
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 04:24:48 PM
rikarrd smoke ah hard one that day .........his 1st mistake was 2 start with a 4-3-3 formation. madrid fortunes changed significantly after this game  stupesssss. ah still vex.

hope he ent pull no stupid stunt like that this year, else ah pelting mi ham bone through d tv

 :devil:

This game should be borse, the only bad thing is that Messi injured.

Ah guess that means that instead ah gehing licks 2-0, allyuh might get it 3-0 now.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 20, 2007, 04:35:45 PM
look how things change eh, madrid fans  not afraid ah d great cock teeth one.

hmmmmmmmm time will tell
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 20, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
Barca will take this one! Real defence aint dat good, especially if Henzie playin!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 20, 2007, 04:45:26 PM
Steups. Real Fans de world over gasped in relief when messi get injured. Frank like he still vex with Dinho for some reason. And Etoo....fortified with bad mind......jus ready to go. Doh forget man like saviola too.....it go be interesting. In my view...henry good right where he is now. I want Dos Santos to get a run....hopefully in messi place.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 04:46:12 PM
Barca will take this one! Real defence aint dat good, especially if Henzie playin!

Marcelo starting...and Barca's defence ain't much more impressive.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 20, 2007, 04:50:51 PM
Barca Cules will like this. It's a video of the reactions of the RM players, coach and fans when Ronaldinho went on a rampage and scored that hat trick at the Bernabeu. The song is pretty funny too.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_uzPyaUW0

toppa this whole video shoulda been about helguera..

ah never see ah man so who always putting on a long face after he get beat..
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 04:56:55 PM
Barca Cules will like this. It's a video of the reactions of the RM players, coach and fans when Ronaldinho went on a rampage and scored that hat trick at the Bernabeu. The song is pretty funny too.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_uzPyaUW0

toppa this whole video shoulda been about helguera..

ah never see ah man so who always putting on a long face after he get beat..

lol Yeah, like when Real was advantaging Barca and Ruud scored a goal on him. The man wanted to cry.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 20, 2007, 05:00:15 PM
Eto will be the difference!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Peong on December 20, 2007, 05:02:21 PM
Barca Cules will like this. It's a video of the reactions of the RM players, coach and fans when Ronaldinho went on a rampage and scored that hat trick at the Bernabeu. The song is pretty funny too.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_uzPyaUW0

What hat-trick?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 05:03:25 PM
Barca Cules will like this. It's a video of the reactions of the RM players, coach and fans when Ronaldinho went on a rampage and scored that hat trick at the Bernabeu. The song is pretty funny too.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_uzPyaUW0

What hat-trick?

 :-\

0-3 at the Bernabeu.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Peong on December 20, 2007, 05:09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqAFg1WxG-k

Real Madrid     0 - 3     Barcelona
                              Samuel Eto'o (15)
                              Ronaldinho (59)
                              Ronaldinho (77)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 20, 2007, 05:13:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqAFg1WxG-k

Real Madrid     0 - 3     Barcelona
                              Samuel Eto'o (15)
                              Ronaldinho (59)
                              Ronaldinho (77)

My bad.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: gothic on December 20, 2007, 05:44:37 PM
man say dey going bootleggers to see this game, alluy absolutely sure they will be showing this right

mi whole Christmas season go be sour if i miss this game, well unless barca win 4-0 or something, mi gul is a traitor barca fan and ah cah take 5 mnths of hearing de gloating
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 20, 2007, 06:52:53 PM
what time is this game showing local time??

for those going and take it in bootleggers, here is a tip..

if it have traffic on the highway coming up to the trincity mall junction, you could cut through the turn off by beaulieu and take trincity central road to the mall... Go around the roundabout and enter via the back entrance and also might be easier to find parking at the back of the mall..

it go be crazy there this sunday..
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: gothic on December 22, 2007, 01:33:41 PM
what time local time is 21:00 Spanish time?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bianconeri on December 22, 2007, 01:45:07 PM
tink it showing 2pm in trini from what papers say...

this gonna be showin on cable? or hadda take it in in trotters?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: elan on December 22, 2007, 03:51:20 PM
Ronny set to warm Barca's bench for 'el clasico'


Barcelona's Brazilian talisman Ronaldinho is set to start on the bench for tomorrow night's super-charged 'clasico' with bitter rivals Real Madrid.

 
The Catalan giants will be without the injured Lionel Messi for the top-of-the-table showdown, and coach Frank Rijkaard also looks set to leave out Ronaldinho on the bench after the pair exchanged strong words in training yesterday.


If the Brazilian is indeed left out, Rijkaard will hand a starting berth in the game known in Spain as 'el clasico' to young Mexico forward Giovani Dos Santos, who impressed as a substitute in last week's 3-0 win at Valencia.

As well as Ronaldinho, Deco also looks set to start on the bench, but Thierry Henry returns from injury and could play.

Edmilson and Oleguer remain sidelined and will not feature.

Despite the absence of Messi, who scored a hat-trick in the corresponding fixture last season to rescue a point for the Catalans, Xavi insists Barcelona must win tomorrow.

'It will be a very even match. Maybe we are playing better than them, but they will come here knowing they have a four point advantage over us and the winter break is approaching. We need the victory more than them and we are only thinking about winning,' he told El Mundo Deportivo.

The veteran midfielder also hopes the crowd get behind Barcelona and make their presence felt in the derby.

'The crowd have an influence in all games, they are always 100% behind us and much more so in the derbies. That puts more pressure on the opponent and gives us added motivation. Knowing the public are so involved brings out the best in us,' he said.

Barcelona have struggled on the road this season, but have won all of their eight league matches at the Nou Camp this term.

Despite leading the Primera Liga and producing two five-goal performances on the road (at Villarreal and Valencia), Real Madrid have looked vulnerable on their travels this term.

Bernd Schuster's side lost to Espanyol on their last visit to Barcelona in October and were also defeated at Sevilla in early last month.

Schuster welcomes back Guti after the homegrown midfielder shook off an ankle injury picked up in training yesterday.

'Guti is fine and perfect to play. There were some small doubts, but he has trained perfectly and is in good condition,' Schuster said.

The German coach also hinted that the player, who set up all three of Real's goals in the enthralling 3-3 draw at the Nou Camp last season, will start tomorrow after being left out of the last three Primera Liga matches.

'As a coach, I prefer Guti (to Ronaldinho) and I believe these kind of players should be on the pitch,' he said.

Schuster revealed he has watched a video of last season's epic encounter and played down Guti's role in the draw, perhaps to motivate his temperamental number 14.

He said: 'I remember that game and I saw it again not long ago. It was the best game Real Madrid have played in the Nou Camp (in the last few years) and Guti wasn't that decisive.

'I thought the team were perfect in what was a complicated moment, but it had been many years since Real Madrid played so well at the Nou Camp.'

Schuster rested nine of his first-team against Alicante in the Copa del Rey on Wednesday, but welcomes back all of those players tomorrow.

Holland winger Arjen Robben, who was handed a rare start that night, is also named in the squad to face Barcelona and will start on the bench.









http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=493043&cc=5901
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 22, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
Rijkaard: Ronaldinho Is Healthy To Play
12/22/2007 9:37 PM

Less than 24 hours before the highly anticipated 'clasico' with bitter rivals Real Madrid, Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard declared that he is happy with Ronaldinho’s progress in recent days, and also that he is confident that his team can put on a good derby performance.

During a short press conference, Rijkaard explained that the reason why he only selected a 19-man squad for the important clash with Real Madrid was because one of his players was injured, but he later confirmed that this player wasn’t Ronaldinho, after being pressured by the press.

"There is a player with a knock, but I prefer not to reveal who he is. Ronaldinho is healthy to play tomorrow. In general, I’m happy with his form over the last week," stated Rijkaard, who insisted that he isn’t unhappy with the Brazilian, despite asking the player to pick up the intensity in a training session on Friday. 

“Today we had a normal training session, nothing strange happened. I’ve seen all the players working hard, and there have been no problems. Yesterday (Friday) I wasn’t annoyed by anything.

"They are only things that happen once in a while, which I spoke about to my players," he added.

Rijkaard affirmed that his starting eleven has practically been confirmed, and that in contrary to what was said by Joan Laporta -- that Barcelona have more to play for than Real Madrid -- it won’t have any effect on the fact that it is a ‘clasico.’ 

When asked for the main factors that could decide the outcome of the match, the Dutchman responded: 

“To score more goals than them.” 

In relation to their rivals, Real Madrid, Rijkaard feels that they are a good team, who are going through a good moment at present, and are playing well. 

“We have to pay them lots of attention,” he concluded.

goal.com (http://goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=523552)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: elan on December 22, 2007, 04:06:44 PM
He probably get threaten with he job if he eh play Ronaldinho.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 22, 2007, 05:48:59 PM
taken from a barca blog................

Yes folks, there are just 24 hours until kick-off for the big game. All the local press are saying that Ronaldinho will start as a substitute tomorrow, something that I still find hard to believe. The news at lunchtime showed Ronaldinho playing the fool during yesterday’s training session after which Frank Rijkaard took him to one side for a private chat. The press are saying Rijkaard wasn’t happy with Ronaldinho’s attitude, and from this they deduce that Ronnie will start on the bench.

The alternative to Ronaldinho is Giovani dos Santos who last week substituted Leo Messi when he got injured. In Giovani’s favour he’s a more natural right-sided player so he would fit in easily in Messi’s place, Ronaldinho and Iniesta both seem more suited to the left. Giovani also works more at pressurising opponents than Ronnie, and with Samuel Eto’o leading the line, Rijkaard may want to put as much pressure as possible on the Madrid defence.

However, we must remember that Giovani is only 18 years old, and he has yet to score a league goal for Barça. Ronaldinho is still a great free-kick taker, and with no Leo Messi there is no other decent penalty taker (Sorry, but I don’t trust Eto’o with penalties). Ronaldinho will surely be motivated for the game and he also has experience on his side. Perhaps Rijkaard is just trying to outwit Madrid.

The press also say that Deco will be on the bench too. In this case I think they are probably right. Eidur Gudjohnsen played very well at Valencia and also against Stuttgart, while since his injury Deco has only played 45 minutes against Depor and 26 minutes against Valencia.

The news from Madrid is that Guti will make the trip with the team and is fit to play. Tomorrow we will see if he plays or not. Talking about Guti yesterday got me thinking about my least favourite Madrid players of all time, I was going to prepare a list of my top ten but in the end there are three players who stand out by a mile from the rest. I naturally dislike all Madrid players but if I was introduced to Iker Casillas, for example, I would probably shake his hand. The three that come to mind produce a physical reaction when I see them on the telly that I can only describe as nausea. They are:

   1. Luis Figo. There’s only really one thing that I dislike about Figo but it is a biggie. It’s not just the fact that he left Barça to join Madrid, it is the way that he did it. I don’t hate Laudrup because he left for sporting reasons, but Figo signed a contract with Florentino Perez before Perez had become president of Madrid. So Figo not only left for money, he also supported someone for the Madrid presidential elections while still under contract with Barça. Did he think about all the kids in Barcelona who wouldn’t be able to wear their Barça shirt with his name on it? Or about the cost to many families of buying these kids a new shirt with someone else’s name? No he didn’t. He took the money and ran. He will never be forgiven in Barcelona. :rotfl: :rotfl:
   2. Pedja Mijatovic. It’s difficult to explain why you don’t like some players. Maybe it is the way they celebrate a goal, maybe it is the way they dress off the pitch, maybe it is for the comments they make. With Mijatovic it was all these things and more. He may have been quite a good player but he behaved as though he thought he was a god. To prove what a dickhead he was, he once reprimanded a fan who ruffled his hair, I have to hold down the vomit just thinking about him.
   3. Guti. Yes Guti, the boy who never grew up. I know a lot of footballers dress like hollywood stars, however, Guti does it but holds himself like a kid, he looks like he knows one day everyone is going to point at him and laugh. When he started at Madrid he wanted to be like Fernando Redondo and later he wanted to be like Beckham, someone really needs to tell him he is not good-looking. His behaviour on the pitch is also childlike, he cries when he is fouled and cries when the ref gives a decision against him. He is a tremendously talented player who should have been a regular for the Spanish national team, but his attitude has always let him down.

 ah barca fan gone over d edge :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 22, 2007, 08:14:21 PM

The press also say that Deco will be on the bench too. In this case I think they are probably right. Eidur Gudjohnsen played very well at Valencia and also against Stuttgart, while since his injury Deco has only played 45 minutes against Depor and 26 minutes against Valencia.

Lord have mercy.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 22, 2007, 10:05:12 PM
  Barcelona v Real madrid

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Barca need real heroes after Ronaldinho falls from grace


The Fantastic Four is no more as Real Madrid head for Nou Camp tonight, says Filippo Maria Ricci

Sunday December 23, 2007
The Observer


The news should arrive well before kick-off. Ronaldinho on the bench. Alongside Deco. The two stars sitting out tonight's clásico as Barcelona take on Real Madrid at Nou Camp.
Last Saturday, with Barcelona thrashing Valencia 3-0 away, Ronaldinho sat on the bench for the full 90 minutes. Frank Rijkaard, the seraphic Dutch manager of the Catalan side, did not even bother to send him along the touchline to warm up. This despite the injury to Leo Messi that led to the Argentina midfielder's departure at the end of the first half, to be replaced by Giovani dos Santos, the 18-year-old Mexico prodigy.


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When Rijkaard decided to rest striker Samuel Eto'o, back from injury and in sparkling form with three goals in two games played in four days, he sent on Bojan Krkic, another gem produced by the prolific cantera, or youth system, at Barça. Krkic, 17, is the son of a former Yugoslavia international who played for Red Star Belgrade in the 1980s, went to play in Catalonia and married there.
At the beginning of the month, Ronaldinho, still only 27, was on the bench twice in four days against Lyon and in the derby at Espanyol. In the previous four years and four months (or 215 games) of his life at Barcelona, he had been a substitute three times in total. Clearly, Rijkaard prefers to use two youngsters to the mighty Ronaldinho.

His starting place, though, is now taken by Andres Iniesta, another who came from the Barcelona youth set-up, a wonderful talent who normally features in midfield but had no problems in adapting to play further up on the left. And Deco? He has lost his place to Eidur Gudjohnsen, signed last year from Chelsea and considered in Barcelona nothing more than a half-decent squad player.

This is supposed to be the Barcelona of the Fantastic Four - Eto'o, Thierry Henry, Messi and Ronaldinho. Only the first will play tonight. Henry will be on the bench, having shaken off the mysterious back injury that has prevented him showing his immense class since arriving from Arsenal in the summer. At the Camp Nou they have yet to see a real glimpse of the great player who illuminated Highbury's afternoons. Messi is out for a month with a thigh injury.

Ronaldinho? On Friday in training Rijkaard and the captain, Carles Puyol, looked on in surprise as the world's most famous player, in joyful mood, was chatting, joking and laughing. They had to remind him about the task in hand, as the Brazilian looked as though he could not care less about Real Madrid, who are four points clear of Barça in La Liga, his team-mates and even less about his manager.

This is the second episode of this kind in a few days: in an earlier session Ronaldinho decided that the training was over and started to leave the pitch. Rijkaard had other ideas and called him straight back, obliging the striker to do a few more exercises, which he completed with no sign of interest, never mind passion. The two skirmishes took place in front of journalists and photographers, because training sessions are open to the press. The relationship between the Dutch manager and his best player is on the rocks. Ronaldinho has summoned his brother Roberto de Assis, who also acts as his agent, to Barcelona this week for crisis talks. He wants to leave.

The Spanish media insist that Chelsea have offered Ronaldinho an astonishing contract, €10m per season net (£7.25m after tax) for five years, but apparently he would prefer to go to AC Milan, where he would join a good number of his fellow countrymen, including Fifa world player of the year Kaka, and where the former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi would be waiting with open arms (and another fat contract). That should happen in the summer though, given the difficulties of moving such a player in the January transfer window.

Less than two years ago the Bernabeu stood to applaud Ronaldinho after a mesmerising performance in el clásico in Madrid. The Real fans where conquered, as were the team. Today, the Nou Camp, his own cathedral, is ready to see Ronaldinho watching the game from the bench. It seems the love story is reaching its final stages, as with many others before - Diego Maradona, Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo, Hristo Stoichkov and Bernd Schuster, just to name a few.

As Deco said in a recent interview, Real are laughing. He is right: the galacticos era is over, and the problems associated with it have passed over to Barcelona.

Filippo Maria Ricci is Spain correspondent of Gazzetta dello Sport

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian News and Media Limited 2007
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Filho on December 22, 2007, 10:35:43 PM

The press also say that Deco will be on the bench too. In this case I think they are probably right. Eidur Gudjohnsen played very well at Valencia and also against Stuttgart, while since his injury Deco has only played 45 minutes against Depor and 26 minutes against Valencia.

Lord have mercy.

Jah. I have to say..Gudjohnsen running some good ball lately. Playing in a deeper and role, and probably benefitting from 1) not having the pressure of trying to replace Eto'o and getting some vindication when he see even Henry struggling to fill those shoes in his first season and 2) having a season under his belt. Gudjohnsen will get a run against Madrid and I feel he will play well. I hope.
Go Barca
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 22, 2007, 11:04:20 PM
I'm concerned about the Ronaldinho situation. The fact that Iceman has a place and not Ronaldinho is worrying. I backing meh side strong but I know Madrid must be laughing at what's happening to us behind closed doors. I'm sure they'd be happy to mark Eidur, with his world class close control. 

One thing is certain, the  Ronaldinho era at Barcelona is about to end. I trying to organise my Prozac prescription all now.

 
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 23, 2007, 12:47:18 AM
I dunno nah......ronaldinho either hadda leave de man daughter alone.........or marry de gyal and done de talk. Dis a serious ting...eh no kicks ting here. I eh kno how i go handle if/when he leave.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 23, 2007, 05:05:03 AM
Yeah, so goal.com predicting a 2-2 scoreline. That's such a cop-out.  ::)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 23, 2007, 05:33:09 AM
Barca still taking it.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 23, 2007, 05:35:40 AM
Barca still taking it.

Takin licks.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 05:44:14 AM
World’s eyes on the clásico

www.fcbarcelona.cat

More than 100 media from 16 different countries, represented by 500 professionals have been given passes for Sunday’s Barça v Madrid. The clásico knows know boundaries.

112 companies have been given passes for the game on December 23rd. 55 are from the printed press, 16 television companies, 27 radios and 14 agencies.

Including reporters, photographers, commentators, cameramen and technicians, there will be 488 professionals working in the Camp Nou on Sunday.

From all around the world

The media hail from 16 different countries. From Europe, they are from Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium and Serbia, while from further afield there will be media representation from China, Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina and Japan.

THIS IS A CERTIFIED BIG GAME

1world cup

2 champions league final

3 el classico
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 23, 2007, 06:20:31 AM
World’s eyes on the clásico

www.fcbarcelona.cat

More than 100 media from 16 different countries, represented by 500 professionals have been given passes for Sunday’s Barça v Madrid. The clásico knows know boundaries.

112 companies have been given passes for the game on December 23rd. 55 are from the printed press, 16 television companies, 27 radios and 14 agencies.

Including reporters, photographers, commentators, cameramen and technicians, there will be 488 professionals working in the Camp Nou on Sunday.

From all around the world

The media hail from 16 different countries. From Europe, they are from Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium and Serbia, while from further afield there will be media representation from China, Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina and Japan.

THIS IS A CERTIFIED BIG GAME

1world cup

2 champions league final

3 el classico
No US media firm bothered to send anybody to the Nou Camp. They not even curious ?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 06:56:59 AM
World’s eyes on the clásico

www.fcbarcelona.cat

More than 100 media from 16 different countries, represented by 500 professionals have been given passes for Sunday’s Barça v Madrid. The clásico knows know boundaries.

112 companies have been given passes for the game on December 23rd. 55 are from the printed press, 16 television companies, 27 radios and 14 agencies.

Including reporters, photographers, commentators, cameramen and technicians, there will be 488 professionals working in the Camp Nou on Sunday.

From all around the world

The media hail from 16 different countries. From Europe, they are from Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium and Serbia, while from further afield there will be media representation from China, Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina and Japan.

THIS IS A CERTIFIED BIG GAME

1world cup

2 champions league final

3 el classico
No US media firm bothered to send anybody to the Nou Camp. They not even curious ?

Jah why yuh even surprised or care? Yuh aint know New England Patriots play Miami Dolphins today.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 06:58:22 AM
World’s eyes on the clásico

www.fcbarcelona.cat

More than 100 media from 16 different countries, represented by 500 professionals have been given passes for Sunday’s Barça v Madrid. The clásico knows know boundaries.

112 companies have been given passes for the game on December 23rd. 55 are from the printed press, 16 television companies, 27 radios and 14 agencies.

Including reporters, photographers, commentators, cameramen and technicians, there will be 488 professionals working in the Camp Nou on Sunday.

From all around the world

The media hail from 16 different countries. From Europe, they are from Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium and Serbia, while from further afield there will be media representation from China, Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina and Japan.

THIS IS A CERTIFIED BIG GAME

1world cup

2 champions league final

3 el classico
No US media firm bothered to send anybody to the Nou Camp. They not even curious ?

Jah why yuh even surprised or care? Yuh aint know New England Patriots play Miami Dolphins today.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 23, 2007, 07:31:08 AM
World’s eyes on the clásico

www.fcbarcelona.cat

More than 100 media from 16 different countries, represented by 500 professionals have been given passes for Sunday’s Barça v Madrid. The clásico knows know boundaries.

112 companies have been given passes for the game on December 23rd. 55 are from the printed press, 16 television companies, 27 radios and 14 agencies.

Including reporters, photographers, commentators, cameramen and technicians, there will be 488 professionals working in the Camp Nou on Sunday.

From all around the world

The media hail from 16 different countries. From Europe, they are from Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden, Belgium and Serbia, while from further afield there will be media representation from China, Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina and Japan.

THIS IS A CERTIFIED BIG GAME

1world cup

2 champions league final

3 el classico
No US media firm bothered to send anybody to the Nou Camp. They not even curious ?

Jah why yuh even surprised or care? Yuh aint know New England Patriots play Miami Dolphins today.
:rotfl:
Just a matter of priorities then. Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 10:28:22 AM
Doh study the reports I feel 'dinho getting unleashed today. I eh feel Dos Santos and Krkic ready for this yet.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 11:57:42 AM
dinho starting
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 23, 2007, 11:59:09 AM
dinho starting
+ Deco
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 11:59:56 AM
Ronaldinho and Deco startin!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: WestCoast on December 23, 2007, 12:01:29 PM
OK
who goin an win?
 ;D
eh Toppa ;)
The Battle of de BIG sides...... :D
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 12:05:26 PM
it not high profiled but the clash of the africans toure and diarra will determine alot in this game
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 12:09:58 PM
dinho scoring ah free kick 2day
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 12:13:16 PM
Heize startin, Barca for sure winning today!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 23, 2007, 12:14:08 PM
And no Henry! Go BARCA!!!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 12:31:07 PM
Dinho looking like he runnin with the parachute open!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 23, 2007, 12:36:22 PM
Some Skills (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1629896)

Dinho (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1629911)

 Some more (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1629917)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 12:39:54 PM
give inesta d ball plz
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 12:40:53 PM
damn good goal in we tail
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: WestCoast on December 23, 2007, 12:43:56 PM
 :o
 :-X
 :-[
 :-*
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 12:54:08 PM
steupssssss 1st half more looked like a english derby ............. most errant passes ah ever see by barcelona but this game not stayng 1 nil
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Bourbon on December 23, 2007, 12:55:02 PM
Robinho does a Jaques Cousteau (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1629942)

Bapitsta Goal (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1629958)   >:(
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 23, 2007, 12:56:28 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 12:57:39 PM
Damn nice goal by Baptista and Van Nistelrooy combining. Ronaldinho pulling stones and diving too much. Iniesta playing like Keiran Richardson - holding on to de ball too long and not knowing when a man coming behind him to take it.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 01:00:31 PM
he lost d ball that way once............... they need to get him involved in d game after messi he is d best at slicing through teams
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 01:01:15 PM
he lost d ball that way once............... they need to get him involved in d game after messi he is d best at slicing through teams

agree but to me he lose it more than once. Maybe that was Xavi
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
Damn nice goal by Baptista and Van Nistelrooy combining. Ronaldinho pulling stones and diving too much. Iniesta playing like Keiran Richardson - holding on to de ball too long and not knowing when a man coming behind him to take it.


Yeah man and after he geh up he have a big smile on he face! He look like he bun aready!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 01:22:25 PM
dinho is making ah meal of any contact he get but geez some of those are fouls man

like the ref n want d man 2 score d freekick
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 01:26:05 PM
madrid must get 1 of these  counter attacks right eventually
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: kingdavid on December 23, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
wa is d score
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 01:45:31 PM
barca 0 vs madrid 1 81 mins

Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 01:46:06 PM
Ronaldinho look like he only have one beats today. Eto cah see he way, aint gettin no service!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 01:54:09 PM
Ah love how dem divers ketchin dem commentators an dem! Barca lookin rell jaded and incoherent
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: freakazoid on December 23, 2007, 01:57:41 PM
steupsssss man i going an watch american footbal yes ::)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Jah Gol on December 23, 2007, 01:58:31 PM
Congratulations to the Madrid fans. It look like they going and buss Ronaldinho and Frank throat.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 02:00:06 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: FF on December 23, 2007, 02:01:57 PM
Allyuh believe is flipping Curling dey showing on NBC!!   >:(  >:(

whatdecuddersmontdoeswrongwidematall!!?


p.s. where Toppa? Do fast and come and wine on dem nah girl!!  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: breezers on December 23, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

Nah Grande ah disagree..he was one ah de better performers fuh we....anyway good win fuh Madrid but we'll not lay down...we'll be bac fuh revenge....
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 02:07:57 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

Nah Grande ah disagree..he was one ah de better performers fuh we....anyway good win fuh Madrid but we'll not lay down...we'll be bac fuh revenge....

boy I doh know nah. Iniesta like he only had one plan whole game: take the ball and try to squeeze through. Failed miserably each time. Three, four players around him and he still eh want to pass the ball, or if he did, the pass was horrid. His ass shoulda get bench, if you know how much times I shake my head at he (and I am an Iniesta fan).

Best player for Barca was probably Ya Ya Toure. Best for Madrid was Madrid
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: breezers on December 23, 2007, 02:11:59 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

Nah Grande ah disagree..he was one ah de better performers fuh we....anyway good win fuh Madrid but we'll not lay down...we'll be bac fuh revenge....

boy I doh know nah. Iniesta like he only had one plan whole game: take the ball and try to squeeze through. Failed miserably each time. Three, four players around him and he still eh want to pass the ball, or if he did, the pass was horrid. His ass shoulda get bench, if you know how much times I shake my head at he (and I am an Iniesta fan).

Best player for Barca was probably Ya Ya Toure. Best for Madrid was Madrid

awrite awrite...ah hear yuh!! Well it was de other way around fuh me..ah use tuh fighthim down in de earlies but he's ah better player now..playin with more confindence..so he come along way..so ah does try not tuh be that drastic with him...anyway yuh see dah african dey call YaYa...dais de boss FULLSTOP!!!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 23, 2007, 02:12:34 PM
 :D :D :D

Ah thought Eto'o was goan spoil rel man Xmas? Like de only Xmas geh spoil is Barca.

Vamos Madrid!!!

Allyuh know allyuh eh winning in de Bernabeu, right?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Filho on December 23, 2007, 02:12:39 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

What does GOAT stand for. Since is all caps, I assume it stands for something. Cuz de real 'goat' was Ronaldinho. Like he forget how to play football. It just sad watching how unintelligent and ineffective his play is right now. Iniesta looked good for Barca..showing lots of skill and the only bright spot in attack. The piece of skill he put down in the dying minutes to get the ball to Borjan down on the left was amazing. But he was also one of the more frustrating players too. He seemed to try to take on too much at the end. BU based on the subs, I'm guessing those were his instructions. Cuz without him they had no penetration. Borjan looked like he needed a longer run too. Young Geovanni was silent


Well done Madrid. Great game. very well executed. Superb goal. RM just looked like the more organized, better coached team. And Batista making all who say he wasn't good enough for Madrid eat their words. Respect de Beast.

Sad day for Barca. But I cyah get too vex. Dat victory for Madrid was deserved.
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: giggsy11 on December 23, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
Ronaldinho play reminded me of Ruud's last days at United, LACKING! But lets not make him the root of all that is wrong with Barca. When yuh have man like Deco sayin he would love it if Muriniho manage Barca because he would love to play for him again. Whats wrong with that picture? Rijjkard is dead man walking. Ronaldinho will be linking up with Patos and Kaka next year and come out smellin like roses and Rudd!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Filho on December 23, 2007, 02:32:14 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

Nah Grande ah disagree..he was one ah de better performers fuh we....anyway good win fuh Madrid but we'll not lay down...we'll be bac fuh revenge....

boy I doh know nah. Iniesta like he only had one plan whole game: take the ball and try to squeeze through. Failed miserably each time. Three, four players around him and he still eh want to pass the ball, or if he did, the pass was horrid. His ass shoulda get bench, if you know how much times I shake my head at he (and I am an Iniesta fan).

Best player for Barca was probably Ya Ya Toure. Best for Madrid was Madrid

Dat harsh. Only in the 2nd 45 he get frustrating. His first half distribution was good, most tellingly the through ball for Eto'o that Casillas got too and the run down the left and cross that Ronaldinho shoulda put away. Iniesta was presha for the first 60 minutes or so and then I have to agree with you...I was wondering why he forcing the play so. Once i see Xavi and Deco come off and Iniesta stay on, I wonder to myself if he just playing to instructions. All in all..not his best game. But maybe I'm being biased cuz I like his game. The other thing is I find the commentators was oten bigging up Xavi when it was Iniesta making plays...
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 23, 2007, 02:59:14 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 23, 2007, 05:26:53 PM
not me and dat flekkin bootleggers again, and ah hope all of allyuh patrons here reading...

i man reach at minute 5 of de game, call down ah heineken and then order two burger meals for me and meh boy.. hoping to get it in time for half time...

well firstly, i was told it was impossible to relocate us to a table in the dining area if i ordered at the bar, but no scene...

well half time reach and done, minute 60 i start inquiring bout meh burger.. dem men just hitting meh, "doh worry it coming jus now"..

minute 70 i ask for the third time and is then the man decide to go and check.. when he come back hear de convo nuh..


Barman:  Ahmm.. Dat burger is a scene you know. De bread run out.

Me: Wha yuh mean de bread run out? So daz it? end of text?

Barman: Well it really eh have nutten ah could do.

Me: Call de manager.

Barman: He not here.

Me: Doh try that. Look him over there. *points*. Go and call him for me please.

Barman: Well dat eh really making no sense at this point yuh know. De bread run out.

Me: Excuse me?? How u know what i want to talk to him about. What de jail i really hearing here? Look just go and call him for me please.


Imagine that eh.. Ah man tellin me it ent makin no sense for me to talk to the manager. That is where customer service reach. and its not the first time i've had a problem there.. Lewwe dont even talk about the time their Linx machine wasnt working yet they refuse to return my debit card.

The manager try to explain whatever, and offer me a measely 10% off something else, this time my ass hungry and 10 mins left in the game. Had to run down in crowded ass kfc after.

Steups.. Not me and dem again..
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: WestCoast on December 23, 2007, 05:32:25 PM
AND den to top off your wonderful experience, Barca gone an lorse ;)
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: gothic on December 23, 2007, 06:39:35 PM
not me and dat flekkin bootleggers again, and ah hope all of allyuh patrons here reading...

i man reach at minute 5 of de game, call down ah heineken and then order two burger meals for me and meh boy.. hoping to get it in time for half time...

well firstly, i was told it was impossible to relocate us to a table in the dining area if i ordered at the bar, but no scene...

well half time reach and done, minute 60 i start inquiring bout meh burger.. dem men just hitting meh, "doh worry it coming jus now"..

minute 70 i ask for the third time and is then the man decide to go and check.. when he come back hear de convo nuh..


Barman:  Ahmm.. Dat burger is a scene you know. De bread run out.

Me: Wha yuh mean de bread run out? So daz it? end of text?

Barman: Well it really eh have nutten ah could do.

Me: Call de manager.

Barman: He not here.

Me: Doh try that. Look him over there. *points*. Go and call him for me please.

Barman: Well dat eh really making no sense at this point yuh know. De bread run out.

Me: Excuse me?? How u know what i want to talk to him about. What de jail i really hearing here? Look just go and call him for me please.


Imagine that eh.. Ah man tellin me it ent makin no sense for me to talk to the manager. That is where customer service reach. and its not the first time i've had a problem there.. Lewwe dont even talk about the time their Linx machine wasnt working yet they refuse to return my debit card.

The manager try to explain whatever, and offer me a measely 10% off something else, this time my ass hungry and 10 mins left in the game. Had to run down in crowded ass kfc after.

Steups.. Not me and dem again..

if dat was you in de chelsea  jersey yuh deserve dat

yuh shoulda wear de beautiful white, burger woulda come one time :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: kicker on December 23, 2007, 07:57:53 PM

El que no salta es blaugrana !!
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Grande on December 23, 2007, 10:29:29 PM
GOAT of the game: A. Iniesta

What does GOAT stand for. Since is all caps, I assume it stands for something. Cuz de real 'goat' was Ronaldinho. Like he forget how to play football. It just sad watching how unintelligent and ineffective his play is right now. Iniesta looked good for Barca..showing lots of skill and the only bright spot in attack. The piece of skill he put down in the dying minutes to get the ball to Borjan down on the left was amazing. But he was also one of the more frustrating players too. He seemed to try to take on too much at the end. BU based on the subs, I'm guessing those were his instructions. Cuz without him they had no penetration. Borjan looked like he needed a longer run too. Young Geovanni was silent


Ronaldinho was a goat too but I had already single him out in the thread. To be fair there were a couple of fouls that the ref shoulda call in his favour, and a couple nice moves on the left, but overall yes, Ronaldinho lacked bad. Someone mentioned before that Iniesta (with Messi) is the best at squeezing through defences...but he try and try and nothing worked, but still he tried no other plan...so maybe he did play to instructions. It was just real frustrating to see because Iniesta look like he wanted to win the game on his own (I can't even remember his smarter moments, fuss he was frustrating).
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: Toppa on December 24, 2007, 04:30:43 AM
not me and dat flekkin bootleggers again, and ah hope all of allyuh patrons here reading...

i man reach at minute 5 of de game, call down ah heineken and then order two burger meals for me and meh boy.. hoping to get it in time for half time...

well firstly, i was told it was impossible to relocate us to a table in the dining area if i ordered at the bar, but no scene...

well half time reach and done, minute 60 i start inquiring bout meh burger.. dem men just hitting meh, "doh worry it coming jus now"..

minute 70 i ask for the third time and is then the man decide to go and check.. when he come back hear de convo nuh..


Barman:  Ahmm.. Dat burger is a scene you know. De bread run out.

Me: Wha yuh mean de bread run out? So daz it? end of text?

Barman: Well it really eh have nutten ah could do.

Me: Call de manager.

Barman: He not here.

Me: Doh try that. Look him over there. *points*. Go and call him for me please.

Barman: Well dat eh really making no sense at this point yuh know. De bread run out.

Me: Excuse me?? How u know what i want to talk to him about. What de jail i really hearing here? Look just go and call him for me please.


Imagine that eh.. Ah man tellin me it ent makin no sense for me to talk to the manager. That is where customer service reach. and its not the first time i've had a problem there.. Lewwe dont even talk about the time their Linx machine wasnt working yet they refuse to return my debit card.

The manager try to explain whatever, and offer me a measely 10% off something else, this time my ass hungry and 10 mins left in the game. Had to run down in crowded ass kfc after.

Steups.. Not me and dem again..

if dat was you in de chelsea  jersey yuh deserve dat

yuh shoulda wear de beautiful white, burger woulda come one time :devil: :devil: :devil:

 :rotfl: Tell him nah

But allyuh eh see how awesome Real's backline was?

Goooo Pepe!

And how many times did Ronaldinho get owned by Ramos?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: dinho on December 24, 2007, 06:04:16 AM

if dat was you in de chelsea  jersey yuh deserve dat

yuh shoulda wear de beautiful white, burger woulda come one time :devil: :devil: :devil:

damn right that was me...

ah was going and come in de real madrid white, but i figure de kitchen already had enuff wash rag to suffice..

who was you? the big head man in de real madrid kit only blocking de monitor?
Title: Re: The Super Classico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/12/07
Post by: kicker on December 24, 2007, 08:19:33 AM

And how many times did Ronaldinho get owned by Ramos?

Ramos & Maicon- two best right backs in the world
Title: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2009, 04:34:04 PM
When?

Saturday, 02 May 09, 20:00 (Barcelona Time)
Saturday, 02 May 09, 14:00 (North American Eastern Time)


Where?

Santiago Bernabéu
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/kammourewa/bernabeu-1.jpg)


League Ranks

Barça, 1st, 82 points, Goal differential +68
Real, 2nd, 78 points, Goal differential +42


Statistics
Real vs Barcelona


Overall
Wins 24 | 26 Wins
Draws 3 | 3 Draws
Losses 5 | 3 Losses
Clean Sheets 14 | 15 Clean Sheets


FC Barcelona 2-0 Real Madrd
1-0 : Eto'o 83'
2-0 : Messi 90+1'

07/08
Real 4-1 Barca
Barca 0-1 Real

06/07
Barca 3-3 Real
Real 2-0 Barca

05/06
Barca 1-1 Real
Real 0-3 Barca

Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on April 28, 2009, 04:37:19 PM
the schedule has not being too friendly buh say wah. have 2 play tilll we drop, cant lose to madrid
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
The league decider to some extent - a Barca win will sew it up...

A Madrid win keeps the race alive...
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Feliziano on April 28, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
ent it done have a La Agua thread somewhere?
merge this thread Mods  :devil:

Go Barca btw  ;D
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 28, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
hoping fuh ah madrid victory.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 28, 2009, 11:50:22 PM
gooffy..Messi go miss ah penalty
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: breezers on May 02, 2009, 11:16:00 AM
YES PPL!! game time is almost here!!!

Quick question fuh Toppa and d rest ah d Madrid Family...how much allyuh feel allyuh good 4 today...lol??

i kinda leanin towards 3 (Eto'o by Messi by Henry) but allyuh might get ah consolation tho...jus fuh d home fans enjoyment..lol
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
any internet links guys?
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 11:36:01 AM
a sistren sent me this link:

http://adotri.com/Sports.htm
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 11:39:13 AM
any internet links guys?

high quality (sky sports)

http://www.justin.tv/vip_football_4 -- english
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: breezers on May 02, 2009, 11:50:33 AM
any internet links guys?

high quality (sky sports)

http://www.justin.tv/vip_football_4 -- english

http://www.atdhe.net/6740/watch-real-madrid-vs-barcelona

OR

http://www.atdhe.net/6739/watch-real-madrid-vs-barcelona
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2009, 12:04:07 PM
the barca fanatic on Gol tv now call chelsea cowards yes  :rotfl:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 12:06:03 PM
robben real running pass abidal
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
free free header steupsssssssssss
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
abidal look bad.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2009, 12:20:57 PM
the barca fanatic on Gol tv now call chelsea cowards yes  :rotfl:




Nah he is a Real apologist and anti EPL.  Goal Barca!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
goal henry
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:22:21 PM
ramos look worse.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: mukumsplau on May 02, 2009, 12:23:06 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  ray hudson say he take d earths rotation in account  :rotfl: :rotfl:  dis man is kicks yes
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
puyol!!!!!!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:23:37 PM
henry doing what he want.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:24:36 PM
goal in they hole.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 12:25:10 PM
robben is on fire...this match like it go finish 10-9 or sumting
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:25:31 PM
big save they valdes.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
what a game!!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
Toure YAYA !!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:28:10 PM
big save casillas.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 12:28:15 PM
action packed stuff
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 12:28:46 PM
 :heehee: nice game  :)
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Barca defense might be in trouble on Wednesday. Can you say porous? If Chelski score first bigger problems.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:30:08 PM
only a matter of time before Eto'o injects the annual dose of poison.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: breezers on May 02, 2009, 12:31:09 PM
only a matter of time before Eto'o injects the annual dose of poison.

Fuh Real!!! :rotfl:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:32:36 PM
barca's passing and movement is a sight to behold...

especially xavi... the first touch, the spatial awareness, knowing when to take a touch, knowing when to let the ball run..

beauty!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2009, 12:34:00 PM
I can see Iker keeping them in this game and Real pippin it at the end, especially if Barca wants to walk the ball in the net.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:34:12 PM
like henry coming off
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Grande on May 02, 2009, 12:34:40 PM
barca's passing and movement is a sight to behold...

especially xavi... the first touch, the spatial awareness, knowing when to take a touch, knowing when to let the ball run..

beauty!

big side is big side
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 12:35:32 PM
barca's passing and movement is a sight to behold...

especially xavi... the first touch, the spatial awareness, knowing when to take a touch, knowing when to let the ball run..

beauty!

big side is big side

cough !
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 12:35:45 PM
All 3 goals were a result of poor marking.

Sergio Ramos is lost.

Barca clearly the better of the two teams- unstoppable when in a rhythm going forward coulda been up by 2 goals if not for big saves by Iker.

Madrid playing brave keeping the game on edge....
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 12:38:39 PM
hahahahahahahhaha 3 in a kaka hole
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
dutty wine my girl dutty wine
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
 real giving up or  what.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:39:39 PM
diarra: a retailer of guns!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2009, 12:40:31 PM
If I was Iker I would walk of the damn field, since it seems like he is the only one come tuh play. steuuups! Well done Barca, like takin candy from a baby.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:41:43 PM
diarra: a retailer of guns!
daiz wholesale boss.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win



my team vs Barca if both progress

VDS

Brown if fit
Rio
Vidic
Evra

Fletcher
Carrick
Anderson

Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney

High energy..Solid Defence..Fast defensive midfield that can also attack...3 lethal strikers..Rooney on the left cutting in and also tracking back

Watch Utd vs Arsenal when we won 1-0 and see how we made Arsenal look like a 2nd division team..they are the same style of Barca...closed them down..we should have scored 4
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:43:54 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 12:44:26 PM
Another defensive blunder- another goal....Could be game set match...
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:44:50 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
nah boy, Diarra ogeed....

whey yuh was going there with that wrong address yuh get from Iniesta?
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 12:46:44 PM
pique u is ah boss. In his eyes the madrid players t shirt mark  "throw blade here"
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2009, 12:49:01 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football(space everywhere and just attacking) vs EPL organization(attacking and defending) = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 12:52:01 PM
this is wonder football we witnessing here...when all of we old we go be talkin about this barca side the way old men does talk about 1970 brazil side...real are at sea...no clue defensively...is like training for barca..pass and move ,whap whap beat...a sight to behold.  first half just whizzed by.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win



my team vs Barca if both progress

VDS

Brown if fit
Rio
Vidic
Evra

Fletcher
Carrick
Anderson

Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney

High energy..Solid Defence..Fast defensive midfield that can also attack...3 lethal strikers..Rooney on the left cutting in and also tracking back

Watch Utd vs Arsenal when we won 1-0 and see how we made Arsenal look like a 2nd division team..they are the same style of Barca...closed them down..we should have scored 4


Wrong thread boss

When (if) Man U gets through to the CL final, yuh could start a thread fuh dis kinda ole talk

This is the clasico thread- let's keep the focus lol

 :D
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:54:02 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football vs EPL organization = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
You are right about Real Madrid ,they ARE having a bad game. But let Chelsea not play 11 men behind the ball in they own defensive third and see if they eh look bad nah. Don't hate the brand SM. At least Madrid trying to play football.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 12:54:34 PM
if Real Madrid gonna get back into this game they have to get Robben involved in this game again.. Give him the ball early and let him take it to them... In the first 15 mins he was the best thing on the ball... he could take on 2 men and all..

I watching Xavi and Iniesta in the middle there and dem is men yuh want and yuh small goal side.. is only small touch and knock.. pass.. move.. get it back.. lewwe build it again... tell men like that "man on" and they might cuss yuh..  

plus dem men real working for it when they ent have it..

I think this game have alot more twists to come though.. If they come out hungry in the 2nd half and get ah early one we could in for a ride.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 12:56:32 PM
if Real Madrid gonna get back into this game they have to get Robben involved in this game again.. Give him the ball early and let him take it to them... In the first 15 mins he was the best thing on the ball... he could take on 2 men and all..

I watching Xavi and Iniesta in the middle there and dem is men yuh want and yuh small goal side.. is only small touch and knock.. pass.. move.. get it back.. lewwe build it again... tell men like that "man on" and they might cuss yuh..  

plus dem men real working for it when they ent have it..

I think this game have alot more twists to come though.. If they come out hungry in the 2nd half and get ah early one we could in for a ride.
I'm going to download this game tonight just to admire the touches.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2009, 12:57:04 PM
if Real Madrid gonna get back into this game they have to get Robben involved in this game again.. Give him the ball early and let him take it to them... In the first 15 mins he was the best thing on the ball... he could take on 2 men and all..

I watching Xavi and Iniesta in the middle there and dem is men yuh want and yuh small goal side.. is only small touch and knock.. pass.. move.. get it back.. lewwe build it again... tell men like that "man on" and they might cuss yuh..  

plus dem men real working for it when they ent have it..


I think this game have alot more twists to come though.. If they come out hungry in the 2nd half and get ah early one we could in for a ride.

true.

Real just need one and they back inthe game. Barca defense not looking all that.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
this game going to have more goals because real have no choice but to come out and attack but that might leave them open for the counter from barca.  hasselbank (on skysports), now commenting that real playing a very high line and not pressuring the ball.   neither defense is all that but if real score 3 barca could score 4
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
canavarro is casper brother
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 01:08:05 PM
is all kinda beat sharing yes...

whap-whap from iniesta.. furs from henry...
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 01:09:01 PM
I feel Ramos shoulda stay home.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 01:11:42 PM
The biggest difference between Madrid & Barca is in the middle of the park

Barca with the wizardry of Xavi & Iniesta

Madrid with the hard nosed approach of Lass & Gago

With Sneijder and Guti hurt, and Van der Faart never really settling Madrid can't find the creativity to take them to the next level.

Barca is a tighter team in all depts but in that dept I feel they have the biggest advantage and it's glaring in this game
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2009, 01:15:14 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football vs EPL organization = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
You are right about Real Madrid ,they ARE having a bad game. But let Chelsea not play 11 men behind the ball in they own defensive third and see if they eh look bad nah. Don't hate the brand SM. At least Madrid trying to play football.

Maybe their coach should adopt sum defensive tactics to mix with attacking tactics

Example Utd Barca last season... we went away and played a 4-5-1 with Ronaldo upfront and Rooney and Park playing the wings to help cover defensively  0-0 FT but we didnt sit back entirely like Chelsea... we missed a penalty and also had a couple chances...Barca had 0 clear cut chances.. 2 half chances..locked the f**k off

To Old Trafford... started with a 4-4-2 with Nani and Park on the wings to help defensively and also can attack...Rooney was out injured but if he was fit he would have played a wing and CR would have played uptop anyway... the point is we all know CR cant defend..so adjust to suit and get the job done

Thats why we are champions

Real are a piece of shit big team... Any big side eg Utd Barca Chelsea Liverpool maybe Inter and Arsenal will fancy themselves against Real

but Barca are not unbeatable and they only use 1 formation and 1 philosophy which is admirable...but I rather win trophies
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:16:22 PM
abidal   was supposed 2 b marking ramos o gosh . ah fraid if pep make abidal play cb against chelsea
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 01:17:20 PM
WTF  :o :o 4-2
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:18:11 PM
straight out ah fifa 09 . through ball. henry .goal
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 01:19:22 PM
if real score 5, barca could score 7...this is that kinda match
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
Sergio Ramos has f*cked Madrid in this game

2 goals- all his fault.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:20:37 PM
henry go rest 4 d bridge
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: giggsy11 on May 02, 2009, 01:20:56 PM
Dey better save some of these bullets for Wednesday!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
that last foul against keita would not have been called in the barca chelsea game
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 01:21:48 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football vs EPL organization = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
You are right about Real Madrid ,they ARE having a bad game. But let Chelsea not play 11 men behind the ball in they own defensive third and see if they eh look bad nah. Don't hate the brand SM. At least Madrid trying to play football.

Maybe their coach should adopt sum defensive tactics to mix with attacking tactics

Example Utd Barca last season... we went away and played a 4-5-1 with Ronaldo upfront and Rooney and Park playing the wings to help cover defensively  0-0 FT but we didnt sit back entirely like Chelsea... we missed a penalty and also had a couple chances...Barca had 0 clear cut chances.. 2 half chances..locked the f**k off

To Old Trafford... started with a 4-4-2 with Nani and Park on the wings to help defensively and also can attack...Rooney was out injured but if he was fit he would have played a wing and CR would have played uptop anyway... the point is we all know CR cant defend..so adjust to suit and get the job done

Thats why we are champions

Real are a piece of shit big team... Any big side eg Utd Barca Chelsea Liverpool maybe Inter and Arsenal will fancy themselves against Real

but Barca are not unbeatable and they only use 1 formation and 1 philosophy which is admirable...but I rather win trophies
What's done is done MAN U won the game fairly. We missed our chances and paid the penalty. But we played better football.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on May 02, 2009, 01:29:38 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football vs EPL organization = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
You are right about Real Madrid ,they ARE having a bad game. But let Chelsea not play 11 men behind the ball in they own defensive third and see if they eh look bad nah. Don't hate the brand SM. At least Madrid trying to play football.

Maybe their coach should adopt sum defensive tactics to mix with attacking tactics

Example Utd Barca last season... we went away and played a 4-5-1 with Ronaldo upfront and Rooney and Park playing the wings to help cover defensively  0-0 FT but we didnt sit back entirely like Chelsea... we missed a penalty and also had a couple chances...Barca had 0 clear cut chances.. 2 half chances..locked the f**k off

To Old Trafford... started with a 4-4-2 with Nani and Park on the wings to help defensively and also can attack...Rooney was out injured but if he was fit he would have played a wing and CR would have played uptop anyway... the point is we all know CR cant defend..so adjust to suit and get the job done

Thats why we are champions

Real are a piece of shit big team... Any big side eg Utd Barca Chelsea Liverpool maybe Inter and Arsenal will fancy themselves against Real

but Barca are not unbeatable and they only use 1 formation and 1 philosophy which is admirable...but I rather win trophies
What's done is done MAN U won the game fairly. We missed our chances and paid the penalty. But we played better football.

what chances?

Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:31:09 PM
3 at the back against barcelona  yummy
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL AT REAL 5-2
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:34:20 PM
buh wait nah madrid n come. 3 at the back madrid allyuh mad. chelsea played 9 in the back and we still had one on one chances. come on madrid
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 01:34:33 PM
messi goal.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Babalawo on May 02, 2009, 01:34:43 PM
Barca 2009 = Best club team ever ??? maybe.  Especially if they with the Euro championship league
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
the amount of space present is unbelievable... no wonder they have so much goals... nice entertainment and technique but poor quality in defending

that is why i have no fear against any la liga side... f**k barca and real.. If we get past Arsenal and Barca get past Chelsea, I have no doubt we will win

1 formation..1 style kind of team...  we could use 4 formations against Barca and all will result in a win


i know this kind of knockery is not your preferred brand... you is more of ah John O'Shea kinda fellah..
get stuck in lads.


It's nice to see attacking football but say what you want to say, La Liga sides are struggling vs EPL sides for the past 4 seasons... Fun Football vs EPL organization = EPL Glory

enjoy your fun football...we are into winning trophies
You are right about Real Madrid ,they ARE having a bad game. But let Chelsea not play 11 men behind the ball in they own defensive third and see if they eh look bad nah. Don't hate the brand SM. At least Madrid trying to play football.

Maybe their coach should adopt sum defensive tactics to mix with attacking tactics

Example Utd Barca last season... we went away and played a 4-5-1 with Ronaldo upfront and Rooney and Park playing the wings to help cover defensively  0-0 FT but we didnt sit back entirely like Chelsea... we missed a penalty and also had a couple chances...Barca had 0 clear cut chances.. 2 half chances..locked the f**k off

To Old Trafford... started with a 4-4-2 with Nani and Park on the wings to help defensively and also can attack...Rooney was out injured but if he was fit he would have played a wing and CR would have played uptop anyway... the point is we all know CR cant defend..so adjust to suit and get the job done

Thats why we are champions

Real are a piece of shit big team... Any big side eg Utd Barca Chelsea Liverpool maybe Inter and Arsenal will fancy themselves against Real

but Barca are not unbeatable and they only use 1 formation and 1 philosophy which is admirable...but I rather win trophies
What's done is done MAN U won the game fairly. We missed our chances and paid the penalty. But we played better football.

what chances?



:D
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: sammy on May 02, 2009, 01:39:54 PM
Guus have some Real thinking to do now.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
this is rape!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 01:41:59 PM
 :heehee: 6
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
6
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Babalawo on May 02, 2009, 01:42:26 PM
look at the stadium emptying fast  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 02, 2009, 01:42:52 PM
explain to me wat yuh cb doing  on the end of that cross lol
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: fari on May 02, 2009, 01:43:46 PM
yes real has made some defensive lapses but barca is that good...few teams on earth could play an attacking game against them.   whoever the new coach is has to start shoring up the back line..get rid of heinze...cannavaro done going back to juve.    so get a good partner for pepe
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: D.H.W on May 02, 2009, 01:43:54 PM
wha happen alyuh , the comeback coming next, wait for it...... ::)
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 01:43:59 PM
explain to me wat yuh cb doing  on the end of that cross lol
madness
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 01:48:58 PM
lol, eto'o want ah piece ah dat bad!
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Observer on May 02, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
I hoped Real get kissed before they got F#cked
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: makaveli on May 02, 2009, 01:50:49 PM
explain to me wat yuh cb doing  on the end of that cross lol
madness

Pique look like a striker dey yes
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 01:57:56 PM
Good game- humiliation at the Bernabeu

The better team won- Barca may have even saved their best for this one..

Madrid was a brave team until Ramos sold guns after they scored the second- they gave up and fell apart after that, and Barca was heartless

Barca all but ensured one trophy this season... They deserve more- they really have exemplified football this season...hats off.

Next Season for los Blancos to make some key buys....we'll be back.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: palos on May 02, 2009, 01:58:41 PM
DESTROYED!

Daz de only way to describe wha Barca did to Real today.  In dem backyard too.

Some a de defending was shocking tho.  Particularly both Real goals and the 1st Messi goal.

Henry abuse Sergio Ramos like a bad foster chile.  Xavi is a very special player.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Good game. A humiliation at the Bernabeu.

The better team won- Barca may have saved their best for this game..

Next season for Madrid to make some buys....


But kicker, the run Real Madrid had in the league leading up to this game was no small feat..

you think they just had a bad day at the office or you think the side need revamping based on this game only?

I think Real need 2 good central defenders and a playmaker, but otherwise the side real good. Its just the barcelona just so much better that it making Real look in ah real mess.

Hopefully the madrid board dont do something schupit like fire Ramos.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2009, 02:26:33 PM
Good game. A humiliation at the Bernabeu.

The better team won- Barca may have saved their best for this game..

Next season for Madrid to make some buys....


But kicker, the run Real Madrid had in the league leading up to this game was no small feat..

you think they just had a bad day at the office or you think the side need revamping based on this game only?

I think Real need 2 good central defenders and a playmaker, but otherwise the side real good. Its just the barcelona just so much better that it making Real look in ah real mess.

Hopefully the madrid board dont do something schupit like fire Ramos.

nah I don't think they need a full revamp.  I think they've been a good side for large parts of the season.  They do need a more creative force, and one or two depth reinforcements at the back...

I also think Ramos (coach) should be given a shot at a full season. 

I don't think they had a particularly bad day today either- At 3-2 the game was anyone's..The 4th goal knocked the wind out of them- and it was poor defending

I think they just got punished by a stronger unit who were on song today...

That said, there is a big gap between the Madrid of today (last few seasons) and the Madrid that once was a force to reckon with in Europe- some strategic buys and some stability off the field (coach & front office) should help to fill that. 
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: palos on May 02, 2009, 02:30:36 PM
That said, there is a big gap between the Madrid of today (last few seasons) and the Madrid that once was a force to reckon with in Europe- some strategic buys and some stability off the field (coach & front office) should help to fill that. 

The man who should be coaching Real currently coachin de Spanish National team.  Dey real lapse dey when dey fork him up and fire him after he win La Liga
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Toppa on May 02, 2009, 05:07:58 PM
Good thing I missed it.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
anybody get the video yet ?
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Tallman on May 02, 2009, 06:06:43 PM
anybody get the video yet ?

http://www.youtube.com/v/U_lZjxlzErA
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 06:12:25 PM
anybody get the video yet ?

http://www.youtube.com/v/U_lZjxlzErA
Thanks . I looking for a torrent.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4879852/Real_Madrid_-_F.C._Barcelona (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4879852/Real_Madrid_-_F.C._Barcelona)
download the torrent. Commentary is en espanol.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Andre on May 03, 2009, 09:25:04 AM
full game download.

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Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Jah Gol on May 03, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
(http://i.media.goal.com/g/48095_hp.jpg)

When Lionel Messi netted for Barcelona during their historic 6-2 win at the Santiago Bernabeu over Real Madrid, he lifted his shirt to reveal a message to the fans on a t-shirt.

However, the logo was displayed so briefly that it was difficult for the worldwide audience to catch.

But by looking at a photograph of the moment, we see what Messi was trying to tell the world:

The t-shirt reads 'Sindrome X Fragil', which is the name of a medical condition known in English as Fragile X Syndrome.

Fragile X Syndrome is a genetic problem that leads to emotional, mental, and sometimes physical problems in its sufferers, with some of its effects being compared with those of autism.

Messi treats the syndrome as a personal cause, having during last month spent a day in Barcelona with children who suffer from the affliction.

As the player himself explained, he suffered from hormonal problems as a child, and had he not received help he could never have been in a position to score a vital goal for one of the world's top clubs.

Players often talk about giving something back, and with tonight's show of publicity it looks like Messi is serious about doing just that.


Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 03, 2009, 10:51:22 AM
nice gesture. u r a good kid  messi. ............................well , defenders may disagree
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: freakazoid on May 03, 2009, 11:13:55 AM
Raul admits pain of Barcelona humiliation

May 3, 2009

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Real Madrid captain Raul was left with feelings of pain and helplessness as his side were thrashed by rampant Barcelona.
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Madrid`s hopes of winning a third successive Primera Division title are now all but gone after they were crushed 6-2 by Barca - the first time in almost 60 years that the Whites have conceded six goals in a match at home.

"We`ve felt powerless. It`s a defeat that hurts a lot," said Raul.

"We fought until the end, but we`ve come up against a better team and you have to congratulate them.

"To suffer such a defeat as this at home, seeing how comfortable the other team is and how they are enjoying themselves, makes you feel helpless."


The victory means treble-chasing Barca are now seven points clear of Madrid with four games remaining and could even be crowned champions next weekend if they beat Villarreal at the Nou Camp and Madrid lose away to Valencia.

"They depend on themselves now," said Raul. "They have the league in their hands, but we are going to try and finish as well as possible. There are four games left and we need to win them. Then we will see what happens.

"This defeat is painful for us and for our supporters, but football is like that."

Madrid goalkeeper Iker Casillas, who saved his side from an even heavier beating with a string of fine saves in the first half, added on his club`s website: "It hurts a lot to lose how we did, but it would have hurt more to lose 1-0 in the last minute.

"Barca are a great team, that`s all you can say. You have to congratulate them and accept the defeat."
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
Real Madrid need their star Santiago Munez :beermug:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Deeks on May 03, 2009, 05:13:47 PM
For just football fans, this was a clasico indeed. For Barca fans, sweet revenge!. For Real fans, humiliation. But all in all great match.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: dwolfman on May 03, 2009, 09:19:37 PM
8 quality goals scored in that match.
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 04, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
Aight allyuh, I now come off the euphoria of that win.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090502/capt.1d55c5379dbd47149d0a7e892a077705.spain_soccer_la_liga_do115.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20090502/i/r1460200561.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090502/capt.f691a739b7e54b7bb47d4fe686882be5.spain_soccer_la_liga_vc108.jpg)


No side score 6 goals in the Bernabau since the 50's, and this win was indeed special. This Barca side too good not win a trophy this year.

FINAL!

Real Madrid 2-6 FC Barcelona
1-0 : Higuaín 14'
1-1 : Henry 17'
1-2 : Puyol 20'
1-3 : Messi 36'
2-3 : Sergio Ramos 56'
2-4 : Henry 58'
2-5 : Messi 75'
2-6 : Piqué 82'

BOOKINGS:
23' Abidal (unsporting conduct on Robben) 4th
25' Lass (foul on Henry)
38' Puyol (foul on Sergio Ramos) 4th
45' Marcelo (foul on Messi)
74' Van der Vaart (foul on Alves)
85' Javi Garcia (foul on Iniesta)

(http://estaticos01.marca.com/albumes/2009/05/02/aficion_madrid_barca_2009/1241293019_extras_albumes_1.jpg)

(http://estaticos01.marca.com/albumes/2009/05/02/aficion_madrid_barca_2009/1241292892_extras_albumes_0.jpg)


First Half Full Highlights : Henry 1st Goal
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824580
 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824580)

Second Goal for Real Madrid by Ramos 56
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824676 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824676)

Fourth Goal for Barcelona by Henry 58
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824679 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824679)

Fifth Goal for Barcelona by Messi 74
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824698 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824698)

Sixth Goal for Barcelona by Pique 83
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824717 (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2824717)


When Lionel Messi netted for Barcelona during their historic 6-2 win at the Santiago Bernabeu over Real Madrid, he lifted his shirt to reveal a message to the fans on a t-shirt.

However, the logo was displayed so briefly that it was difficult for the worldwide audience to catch.

But by looking at a photograph of the moment, we see what Messi was trying to tell the world:

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090502/capt.5448e844f39c492b9ea64ad03269183c.spain_soccer_la_liga_ak102.jpg)
The t-shirt reads 'Sindrome X Fragil', which is the name of a medical condition known in English as Fragile X Syndrome.

Fragile X Syndrome is a genetic problem that leads to emotional, mental, and sometimes physical problems in its sufferers, with some of its effects being compared with those of autism.

Messi treats the syndrome as a personal cause, having during last month spent a day in Barcelona with children who suffer from the affliction.

As the player himself explained, he suffered from hormonal problems as a child, and had he not received help he could never have been in a position to score a vital goal for one of the world's top clubs.

Players often talk about giving something back, and with tonight's show of publicity it looks like Messi is serious about doing just that.




Some Stats:

4 matches (12 points) remaining in the season.

• Barcelona has equalled the highest point tally of 85 for a 38-match season set by Real Madrid 2007/08.

• 7 goals needed to equal the all-time scoring tally of 107 set by Real Madrid in 1989/90. (That's right, they're currently sitting on 100 league goals!)

• 1 win away from equalling the 28 victories set by Real Madrid during a 38 match season (1987/88) and equalled by the Blaugrana team of 1996/97 (42 match season).

• 7 points needed to equal the largest point tally of 92 from a 42-match season set by Real Madrid in 1996/97.

(http://imagenes.lavanguardia.es/lavanguardia/img/20090502/jplaporta0205090.jpg)
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 04, 2009, 10:53:55 AM
Full Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/v/oDAHobvsjl8
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Grande on May 04, 2009, 10:55:40 AM
(http://estaticos01.marca.com/albumes/2009/05/02/aficion_madrid_barca_2009/1241292892_extras_albumes_0.jpg)


ah, the middle finger....the universal sign for 4k you

this pic is kicks...can you count how many Madridistas giving Messi the finger...I count 6...
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: trinikev on May 04, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
(http://estaticos01.marca.com/albumes/2009/05/02/aficion_madrid_barca_2009/1241292892_extras_albumes_0.jpg)


ah, the middle finger....the universal sign for 4k you

this pic is kicks...can you count how many Madridistas giving Messi the finger...I count 6...

I count 7  :rotfl:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: FF on May 04, 2009, 11:49:13 AM


ah, the middle finger....the universal sign for 4k you

this pic is kicks...can you count how many Madridistas giving Messi the finger...I count 6...

I count 7  :rotfl:

Me 8... Toppa 9... Kicker 10 and counting  >:(  >:(  >:(  :'(  :'(  :'(


p.s. actually some of them people face is real kicks.. dey blue vex  :rotfl:
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Bourbon on May 04, 2009, 12:09:23 PM
(http://estaticos01.marca.com/albumes/2009/05/02/aficion_madrid_barca_2009/1241292892_extras_albumes_0.jpg)


ah, the middle finger....the universal sign for 4k you

this pic is kicks...can you count how many Madridistas giving Messi the finger...I count 6...

I count 7  :rotfl:

How much yuh count for de man who have up 2?
Title: Re: La Liga El Clásico - Madrid v FC Barcelona • 02 May 09
Post by: Daft Trini on May 04, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Looks like 9 (one man was giving a double f u)

Doh worry all that celebration will end at Stamford bridge.... they'll come back down to reality. :beermug:
Title: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 23, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09

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Sunday, 29 November 09, 19:00, Barcelona Time
Sunday, 29 November 09, 2:00pm, Trinidad

Camp Nou
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History:
Real Madrid Club de Fútbol (also known as Los Putos Blancos (LPB), The Evil Empire (EE) is a professional football club based in Madrid, Spain. Currently 1st in La Liga with 28 points.

In 1943, in a match against Real Madrid, which Madrid won 11:1, the Barcelona players were threatened by the police in their changing room. Examples such as these show the important role that FC Barcelona has played in the lives of its supporters and the rivalry that has existed (still exists?) between Barca and other Spanish clubs, and not only in terms of sporting matters.


Past Meetings

Real Madrid 2-6 FC Barcelona
1-0 : Higuaín 14'
1-1 : Henry 17'
1-2 : Puyol 20'
1-3 : Messi 36'
2-3 : Sergio Ramos 56'
2-4 : Henry 58'
2-5 : Messi 75'
2-6 : Piqué 82'

FC Barcelona 2-0 Real Mandrid
1-0 : Eto'o 83'
2-0 : Messi 90+1'

07/08
LPB 4-1 Barca
Barca 0-1 LPB

06/07
Barca 3-3 LPB
LPB 2-0 Barca

05/06
Barca 1-1 LPB
LPB 0-3 Barca

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(http://estaticos01.cache.el-mundo.net/albumes/2007/03/10/barcelona_realmadrid/0d49cb459c3c3470cbe1f8a728c6afe6_extras_albumes_0.jpg)
Title: Pedro....WTF??
Post by: palos on November 24, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
Is like everytime dis yute play....he scorin.

De man start 10 games fuh Barca dis season....mostly as a sub or in Copa del Rey games.  8 goals....AND COUNTIN!

Wha de ass!!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 24, 2009, 02:46:58 PM
Madrid fans!!!! 

Ah know allyuh watchin............

START TUH GET FRIGHTEN FROM NOW!!!!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: fari on November 24, 2009, 09:57:56 PM
might not be a thrashing like last season but i feel real going to lose.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: fordy on November 25, 2009, 08:10:17 AM
well if that inter game is any indication boy real in for a time!! and that was without messi and zlatan. Jesus!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 25, 2009, 03:39:47 PM
This evening Madrid eh look like a unit that could beat Barca...They need to tighten up, and get it right...because they looking very mediocre despite sitting on top of the table. 
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 25, 2009, 05:27:40 PM
This evening Madrid eh look like a unit that could beat Barca...They need to tighten up, and get it right...because they looking very mediocre despite sitting on top of the table. 

What? They dominated most of the game and had quite a few shots that were saved by the keeper. Not exciting, but efficient.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 25, 2009, 08:17:01 PM
This evening Madrid eh look like a unit that could beat Barca...They need to tighten up, and get it right...because they looking very mediocre despite sitting on top of the table. 

What? They dominated most of the game and had quite a few shots that were saved by the keeper. Not exciting, but efficient.

I hear you...just wanted to see better.  FC Zurich is no Barca (they're no Inter either)...

Was hoping to see something that would fire me up for the weekend, but I guess I'll just have to wait for them to step it up at Camp Nou. 
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 26, 2009, 06:55:48 AM
This evening Madrid eh look like a unit that could beat Barca...They need to tighten up, and get it right...because they looking very mediocre despite sitting on top of the table. 


be prepared to have your ass handed to you
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 26, 2009, 07:35:07 AM
Ronaldo keen to play part in El Clasico after return


Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo was quick to switch his focus to El Clasico with Barcelona this weekend after making his return to action against FC Zurich following almost two months out through injury.

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2009/0930/ronaldoceleb20090930_275x155.jpg)

Ronaldo appeared as a 70th-minute substitute in the 1-0 Champions League win over the Swiss side on Wednesday, the Portugal international making his first appearance for Madrid since sustaining an ankle injury at the end of September.

Ronaldo was unable to mark his comeback with a goal, although he did come close near at the end when he was denied as Zurich goalkeeper Johnny Leoni dived low to his left.

Having only returned to full training on Friday, he told Spanish television channel Telemadrid: "I'm tired because I'm still not at 100%, but I'm sure I will return to be how I was before the injury, scoring goals, having good games and helping the team."

Ronaldo, who scored nine goals in helping Madrid win their opening seven competitive games this season, has been sorely missed by the Spanish giants, who won just half of their ten matches in his absence and were embarrassingly dumped out of the Copa del Rey by third tier Alcorcon.

He received a loud cheer from the Madrid supporters when he started warming up during the second half of the Zurich game, and then another ovation when he replaced club captain Raul.

"I had a very good reception and now I want to show them the best of me," he said. "I want to play in the Clasico if I feel good, although that is the reasonability of the coach. In any case, with or without me, the team are first in La Liga and in their Champions League group.

"Good players always have to play. (Against Zurich) I didn't score, but I hope to do in the following game. It doesn't bother me if it's 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1 - the important thing is to win."
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 27, 2009, 01:58:22 PM
Training session today. Messi and Zlatan trained but still unsure for Sun.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20091127/i/r46199635.jpg)

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Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 27, 2009, 03:53:27 PM
Training session today. Messi and Zlatan trained but still unsure for Sun.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20091127/i/r46199635.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20091127/i/r503152466.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091127/capt.934db11aa82f4ba893cf97ef87ad89a6.spain_soccer___mf103.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20091127/i/r937274806.jpg)

They're gonna play! Not too sure how dey would take part but dey certainly would!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: jai john on November 27, 2009, 03:59:56 PM
Bet Real surprises people ...is my coach dey have dey ...and he surprised both of these top teams with Villareal in the past...so I backing Real in this super classico !It seems like he has been given a free hand now ...so he can pick who he likes ...we will see .
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Peong on November 28, 2009, 11:06:28 AM
Ah can't wait!

Barca v Real Madrid preview
Anticipation sky high as Spanish giants do battle


El Clasico last year saw Barca beat Real 6-2 at the Bernabeu

The first 'El Clasico' of the season takes place this Sunday as Barcelona lock horns with Real Madrid, live on Sky Sports 1 & HD1.

The anticipation surrounding Spain's premier fixture is higher than ever with both clubs fully stocked with star-studded names after the Primera Liga giants splashed over £300million on summer signings.

New additions for the Camp Nou clash are Barca's marquee signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic, while Real have reclaimed their 'Galactico' status with the likes of Xabi Alonso, Karim Benzema and world record signing Cristiano Ronaldo all arriving at the Santiago Bernabeu.

Both sides are faring well in domestic and European leagues - Pep Guardiola's Catalans beat Inter Milan on Tuesday to boost their hopes of retaining the UEFA Champions League while Sunday's visitors sit top of Group C after their latest win over FC Zurich on Wednesday.

As for the Primera Division, Manuel Pellegrini's side currently set the pace after they narrowly beat Racing Santander to leapfrog Barca last weekend, who could only manage a 1-1 draw at Athletic Bilbao.

With top spot and the ever-crucial head-to-head record at stake when Madrid come to town, Barca midfielder Xavi has demanded his team-mates remain faithful to their attacking philosophy by dictating the game against their bitter rivals.

Despite hammering Real 6-2 at the Bernabeu last season en route to winning the league, Champions League and Copa del Rey, Xavi insists victory - and not the margin of it - is most crucial.
Victory

"We are not thinking about beating Real Madrid by many goals," he said.

"We want the three points and that is what we will go out to win. We have a lot of respect for them and we must be careful because historically these are complicated games.

"They are the leaders at the moment and they are scoring goals at the moment. But we are at home and we are highly motivated for the game.

Alonso has revealed that Los Blancos are trying to treat the Barca showdown as just another three points, insisting the tie will not prove decisive in who will win the league this season.

The former Liverpool midfielder - who returned to his homeland last summer in a £30million move - hailed Xavi and Andres Iniesta as the players to watch.

"It will be important, but not decisive. Three more points are at stake, but we will face our greatest opponent and there are nevertheless many games left in the championship," he told his club's official website.

Of Xavi and Iniesta, Alonso said of his Spain team-mates: "Their performance level is truly impressive. I believe they are the best midfielders in the world."

Team news

Barca will call on their Spanish stars to do the business for them on Sunday as they look unlikely to call upon the services of Lionel Messi or Imbrahimovic for the derby affair.

Neither forward seems fit enough to start, Messi is struggling with the leg injury he picked up last weekend while his Swedish strike partner has been unable to shake off a thigh complaint.

Real have been boosted by the return of Ronaldo after the £80million signing made a successful comeback from an ankle injury as a substitute in Wednesday's Champions League success.

Pellegrini faces a dilemma on who to partner Raul up front with Gonzalo Higuain staking his claim after scoring his seventh goal of the season midweek, while Benzema will be hoping to feature in his first taste of 'El Clasico'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/CKMOMQo035M
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 09:07:58 AM
So today is the day.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 09:32:36 AM
is "REAL" lixxs sharing today ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 09:39:01 AM
is "REAL" lixxs sharing today ;D

If you say so.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 09:44:20 AM
is "REAL" lixxs sharing today ;D

If you say so.
1-0
check meh later :D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 09:46:40 AM
is "REAL" lixxs sharing today ;D

If you say so.
2-1
check meh later :D

 :beermug:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: 2cents on November 29, 2009, 10:37:45 AM
 :beermug:  Here's to hopefully a better match than d 1st 30 minutes of Arsenal vs Chelsea so far.

Barca all d way, I sense goals in this game i'm gonna go for 3-2 Barca...bless
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: WestCoast on November 29, 2009, 10:44:24 AM
:beermug:  Here's to hopefully a better match than d 1st 30 minutes of Arsenal vs Chelsea so far.

Barca all d way, I sense goals in this game i'm gonna go for 3-2 Barca...bless
buh Drogs jess scored ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 12:04:14 PM
On to the Clasico!

Dutty up them white uniforms.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 12:19:19 PM
No links working...ever see ting so?  :-[
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 12:23:24 PM
Cristiano shoulda drawn first blood...Kaka may have even taken that shot himself...

very cagey chess match start to this game

Madrid with the edge as far as the run of play goes at 24 mins in...

A goal will open this up.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Observer on November 29, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
Barca playing real nervous.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 12:30:05 PM
Barca playing real nervous.

Could have been 2 goals down at this early stage
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 12:39:43 PM
Is RM a bigger team than Barca  ???
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 12:40:22 PM
Run of play has swung in favor of Barca in the last 7-10 mins...
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Warrior till death on November 29, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
http://www.atdhe.net/10698/watch-barcelona-vs-real-madrid
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 12:45:21 PM
Madrid has lost control of the middle of the park

Marcelo sh*tting on himself...been the weak link for Madrid tonight so far. 
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
These linesmen know what offside is?
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 12:52:47 PM
lol For a while you woulda swear Real was at home. Gooo Madrid! Nice contest so far, with Real Madrid having the edge. I agree Observer, Barca was looking nervous.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
These linesmen know what offside is?

lol
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 12:53:15 PM
These linesmen know what offside is?

That Ginger one will mess up the game. Henry was clearly on that one time.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 12:57:15 PM
1st 45 very tight...pretty even as well- Madrid with the edge as far as clear cut chances.  

So far I think Pelligrini has won the coaching/tactical matchup.  Barca needs to move the ball a bit quicker- They don't look like the quick moving fluid Barca so far...and for the most part they are allowing Madrid to recover and get their shape back, and thus haven't really created anything clear cut.  Madrid playing a high line at the back and cutting out the central channels----most of Barca through passes coming in wide areas and the high line is setting a good offside trap (bad call on the last one on Henry).  

Lass & Alonso need to win back the middle if Madrid is going to have a chance in the 2nd 45.  Kaka needs to be more agressive and decisive (lost a step in the 2nd part of the half)- CR9 has disappeared and Marcelo is not being careful with the ball.  Tactically they figured Barca out in the first 45, but the individual players need to step up and be hungrier to make the tactical discipline work...

Good game.

Iniesta & Messi looking menacingly close to a moment of brilliance that could turn this game on its head and open it up a bit.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
No links working...ever see ting so?  :-[

http://www.iraqgoals.net/
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2009, 01:15:28 PM
What a block by the captain!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
All Barca this half, but Higuain coulda killed them on the counter- great lunge by Puyol to block a sure goal.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
GOOOOOOOOL!!!!!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:18:03 PM
HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!!!!!!

Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:18:51 PM
That is Alves first good cross for th whole game.

Henry on the bench like, "I ent get no cross like that"
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 01:19:23 PM
1st 45 very tight...pretty even as well- Madrid with the edge as far as clear cut chances.  

So far I think Pelligrini has won the coaching/tactical matchup.  


You were saying?  ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
How many times does Ramos fail to cover his man all the way back to the goal...poor defending (no tracking, no cover, no marking) free shot...good finish nevertheless...

1-0 Barca
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
MAMA YO... red card yes
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:24:46 PM
WTF Busquets?
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2009, 01:25:42 PM
Madrid handed a lifeline dey.

Ronaldo still playin like a faggit.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:26:13 PM
I actually kinda fraid barca more playing with 10 men oui
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:28:15 PM
How Ronaldo only getting bat so? What happen to all the step-overs?
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 01:28:52 PM
Silly red by Busquets...

The way Barca keeps the ball, losing a man is like limiting them to 11 players lol...

Hopefully Madrid can capitalize- not sure about taking out Ronaldo...

Referee very kind to Barca on some routine physical play. 
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:32:32 PM
Puyol is the goal keeper
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:37:48 PM
Barca passing like playstation.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 01:39:06 PM
Barca might actually be more fluid going forward with 10 lol...
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:39:25 PM
Kaka is ah beast
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:40:29 PM
Why Marcelo still on the field?
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:40:52 PM
Why Marcelo still on the field?

steups.. if again... spoiling ah good all around game
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 01:42:01 PM
Kaka is ah beast

playing according to his price tag today.  Disappeared for a few minutes in the 1st half, but all in all putting in a very good shift...

Why Marcelo still on the field?

Great question!!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:42:51 PM
OH JESUS
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:51:22 PM
Ref tief for barca on that foul, Alves with his 2nd good cross for the game, and Messi stopped by Iker.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:52:01 PM
Lass gone,
10 v 10.

I guess he get fed up taking shake.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
Ref tief for barca on that foul, Alves with his 2nd good cross for the game, and Messi stopped by Iker.

steups de man jus run up and kick/push down kaka from behind dry so and no call
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
Highlights:

(http://andersonpooper.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/crotch-kick.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 02:01:01 PM
Messi shoulda turned out the lights in the dregs...woulda been a harsh scoreline though.

Good game- a nail biting one.  Madrid deserved to get something out of this one, but so it goes.

Ref was kind to Barca on some marginal calls and some routine physical play...

Xavi, Iniesta & Messi as a combo are almost unplayable when they find a rhythm....  

Madrid needs a creative player in the middle, and better link up play up top- they have the tools, but can't find the chemistry.  Even so they shoulda found the net at least once today

sigh....





Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 02:04:38 PM
Real had much more dangerous chances, but Barca had the one that counted. 1-0

Not at all a blow out, Real Madrid can hold their heads high. Good game. We'll murder them in the Bernabeu.

Marcelo is reeeeeeeeeeeeeel shit. He does get me so effing vex.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: dinho on November 29, 2009, 02:14:46 PM
not the best clasico but still very entertaining game..

great finish by Ibrahimovic, but i doh know if is only me eh.. but i find Ibra does real fork up de brand, he not quick enough to match the knock. Mark my words, he will disappear in the latter stage champions leagues games towards the business end of the season.

Real is still a work in progress.. Kicker, i eh wanna hear about what Real Madrid need again, $250 million was spent on a whole side, what more allyuh want? If and when this team gels, they will be something to watch.

Marcelo is shit boy, geez!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: elan on November 29, 2009, 02:16:42 PM
Messi shoulda turned out the lights in the dregs...woulda been a harsh scoreline though.

Good game- a nail biting one.  Madrid deserved to get something out of this one, but so it goes.

Ref was kind to Barca on some marginal calls and some routine physical play...

Xavi, Iniesta & Messi as a combo are almost unplayable when they find a rhythm....  

Madrid needs a creative player in the middle, and better link up play up top- they have the tools, but can't find the chemistry.  Even so they shoulda found the net at least once today

sigh....




I guess you missed the first half. Coulda swear Ramos was playing in ice.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 29, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
Real had much more dangerous chances, but Barca had the one that counted. 1-0

Not at all a blow out, Real Madrid can hold their heads high. Good game. We'll murder them in the Bernabeu.

Marcelo is reeeeeeeeeeeeeel shit. He does get me so effing vex.

Not ah blow out yes but yuh feel Perez wanna hear dat after all d paper he spend??  :devil:

As ah say before d pressha was & would always be on Madrid cuz of d heavy investment dat was made with d main purpose of "hopin" to re-adjust to the powerhouse in barca....and d day has finally come...all dat paper spend and no "W"! Anyway congratz on the "Good game...hold allyuh head high!"  :devil: :beermug: :devil:

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/downloads/himnes/track_07.mp3

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/downloads/himnes/track_01.mp3

 :devil: :rotfl: :devil:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2009, 02:49:38 PM
not the best clasico but still very entertaining game..

great finish by Ibrahimovic, but i doh know if is only me eh.. but i find Ibra does real fork up de brand, he not quick enough to match the knock. Mark my words, he will disappear in the latter stage champions leagues games towards the business end of the season.

Real is still a work in progress.. Kicker, i eh wanna hear about what Real Madrid need again, $250 million was spent on a whole side, what more allyuh want? If and when this team gels, they will be something to watch.

Marcelo is shit boy, geez!

lol ah said they have the tools...but not the chemistry... ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Observer on November 29, 2009, 03:20:23 PM
Messi was quiet today. Iniesta and Xavi is real tears for any team, dem men slippery too bad.
Kaka played arguably one of his best games, but that new role is pressure for him.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
Where Filho? Wham to him?
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 29, 2009, 03:48:37 PM
yea ah feel d mods should issue ah RED ALERT fuh madrid fans on here! And real talk ah feel we go have tuh pay attention tuh d news in d nex few hrs...cuz ah feel some die hard madrid fans who livin ah few stories from ground done throw dey tv outta d window and dive behind it...allyuh try not tuh take it orn so bad....2nd best is not dat bad...bless!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2009, 04:09:32 PM
yea ah feel d mods should issue ah RED ALERT fuh madrid fans on here! And real talk ah feel we go have tuh pay attention tuh d news in d nex few hrs...cuz ah feel some die hard madrid fans who livin ah few stories from ground done throw dey tv outta d window and dive behind it...allyuh try not tuh take it orn so bad....2nd best is not dat bad...bless!

 ::)

Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Babalawo on November 29, 2009, 04:34:34 PM
Barca Barca Barca  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2009, 06:46:53 PM
not the best clasico but still very entertaining game..

great finish by Ibrahimovic, but i doh know if is only me eh.. but i find Ibra does real fork up de brand, he not quick enough to match the knock. Mark my words, he will disappear in the latter stage champions leagues games towards the business end of the season.

Real is still a work in progress.. Kicker, i eh wanna hear about what Real Madrid need again, $250 million was spent on a whole side, what more allyuh want? If and when this team gels, they will be something to watch.

Marcelo is shit boy, geez!

Everyone except Laporta seems to know this, remains to be seen how this chapter will be written, Ray Hudson say he's twice the footballer Eto'o is, then again he's the same one who said Dani Alves has nice nipples, so go figure
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: FF on November 29, 2009, 07:49:40 PM
yea ah feel d mods should issue ah RED ALERT fuh madrid fans on here! And real talk ah feel we go have tuh pay attention tuh d news in d nex few hrs...cuz ah feel some die hard madrid fans who livin ah few stories from ground done throw dey tv outta d window and dive behind it...allyuh try not tuh take it orn so bad....2nd best is not dat bad...bless!


wha de arse is dis.. it had more madrid fans posting in de thread today than barca fans... all of allyuh now come out.. long after de game done.. talk bout yellow belly
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2009, 08:06:13 PM
Messi was quiet today. Iniesta and Xavi is real tears for any team, dem men slippery too bad.
Kaka played arguably one of his best games, but that new role is pressure for him.

  Just because he didn't score don't mean he was quiet, jed....come nah man Observer, you know daaaaat.....yuh eh see hummuch beans he was givin' dem defenders today? every time he pick up de ball he heading STRAIGHT, full speed @ the central defenders.....de boy SICK!!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 29, 2009, 09:15:13 PM
yea ah feel d mods should issue ah RED ALERT fuh madrid fans on here! And real talk ah feel we go have tuh pay attention tuh d news in d nex few hrs...cuz ah feel some die hard madrid fans who livin ah few stories from ground done throw dey tv outta d window and dive behind it...allyuh try not tuh take it orn so bad....2nd best is not dat bad...bless!


wha de arse is dis.. it had more madrid fans posting in de thread today than barca fans... all of allyuh now come out.. long after de game done.. talk bout yellow belly

 :rotfl: :rotfl: son.....yuh mus do yuh HW b4 yuh post! is how much days we predictin allyuh beatin now...eh??? check back in all dem barca related threads and u'll see lol. Ah doh wait on game day tuh inject d fear!  :rotfl:

Anyway at least take win fuh "d forum's #1 supporters role call" jus fuh allyuh morale...good job! lol  :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2009, 10:11:41 AM
FC Barcelona 1-0 Real Madrid CF
1-0 : Ibrahimovic 56'

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20091129/i/r3504893640.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9232/barcarealmadridliga12b.jpg)
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3127/barcarealmadridliga12a.jpg)
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/30/barcarealmadridliga12c.jpg)


                  Valdés
Alves -- Puyol -- Piqué -- Abidal
                Busquets
              Xavi -- Keita
      Messi -- Henry -- Iniesta

51' Ibrahimovic for Henry
66' Touré for Keita

BOOKINGS
33' Arbeloa (foul on Messi)
41' Albiol (unsporting conduct)
49' L.Diarrá (foul on Messi)
50' Busquets (foul on C.Ronaldo) 2nd
62' Busquets (unsporting conduct) double booking = expulsion
69' Pepe (foul on Messi)
79' Marcelo (foul on Puyol)
89' L.Diarrá (foul on Messi) double booking = expulsion

http://www.youtube.com/v/dSGfReQVL4U
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: fordy on November 30, 2009, 10:56:07 AM
Real played well in the first half and should of taken the lead...but Barca controlled the game in the 2nd. For me, Henry and Messi was trying to alternate roles as the point striker in the system and Messi was somewhat ineffective because he's not as dangerous with his back to goal. When Zlatan came on the game changed. It allowed Messi to face defenders and run at will at them...which then created more space in the middle for Xavi and Iniesta to play dey self! But for me...man of d match was captain Puyol....he made 3 game saving tackles in the box for barca....blood sweat and tears from d captain yesterday!!! Great goal by Zlatan though. :beermug:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2009, 11:04:29 AM
Real played well in the first half and should of taken the lead...but Barca controlled the game in the 2nd. For me, Henry and Messi was trying to alternate roles as the point striker in the system and Messi was somewhat ineffective because he's not as dangerous with his back to goal. When Zlatan came on the game changed. It allowed Messi to face defenders and run at will at them...which then created more space in the middle for Xavi and Iniesta to play dey self! But for me...man of d match was captain Puyol....he made 3 game saving tackles in the box for barca....blood sweat and tears from d captain yesterday!!! Great goal by Zlatan though. :beermug:

But this was the tactic last clasico when Barca won 6-2 that won all the praise from the critics.. Real Madrid were expecting Eto'o to be the point forward, but instead they put Messi central picking up the ball to draw the slow Real central defenders out of position and create space to exploit.. Seems to me like they tried something similar here..

Personally i was kinda disappointed with the lineup Pep started.. Was expecting to see Ibra or Henry up top with Messi on the right and Pedrito on the left.. Keita and Busquets starting to me looked like a defensive lineup..

For the people who think Sergio Ramos is one of the best defenders, i find its shocking how much times he gets caught out of position going forward.. Look where the goal come from again. Like i said before, he is a good right back but his problem is he thinks too highly of himself as an attacking force and neglects his defensive duties and positioning..
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2009, 11:36:59 AM

For the people who think Sergio Ramos is one of the best defenders, i find its shocking how much times he gets caught out of position going forward.. Look where the goal come from again. Like i said before, he is a good right back but his problem is he thinks too highly of himself as an attacking force and neglects his defensive duties and positioning..

Breds, that soldier needs to do a course on discipline and focus- check my post right after the goal score:

How many times does Ramos fail to cover his man all the way back to the goal...poor defending (no tracking, no cover, no marking) free shot...good finish nevertheless...

1-0 Barca

Lawd dat fella could make yuh butt yuh head on a wall dread......the quality of his game with the ball at his feet is not common for a defender (balance, comfort in ball handling, athleticism, courage and flare going forward etc)..but on the flip side it's always some kinda mental lapse defensively dread- glad someone else recognized it. 
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 30, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Other people saying is Pepe ho was out of position for the goal.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2009, 12:49:09 PM
Other people saying is Pepe ho was out of position for the goal.

Tough call if you're not down on the field I suppose...could be a miscommunication between the two- but Pepe is a central, non marking half back (sweeper)...and he was covering his central area... Ramos who is a marking full back ...was left trailing yards behind.

Looks like Ramos got lazy if you ask me...and yes this is 100% armchair coaching just in case you mistook it for something else  ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Peong on November 30, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
When the ball was shipped in, there were 3 defenders and 3 forwards.
Pepe was the only defender in position, and he had 2 free Barca men to deal with, Ibra who was behind his back and somebody else in front of him.
Ramos was the only defender who was seein the entire play, and should have seen the danger Ibra posed, but he decide to jog.
Ramos shoulda had Ibra.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Toppa on November 30, 2009, 03:03:00 PM
OK. On another forum they lambasting Pepe for being out of position. I seemed to think it was Ramos as well. He always ends up looking on from somewhere other than where he supposed to be: in defence.

Marcelo is still rel shit though. steups
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: breezers on November 30, 2009, 03:37:12 PM
Real played well in the first half and should of taken the lead...but Barca controlled the game in the 2nd. For me, Henry and Messi was trying to alternate roles as the point striker in the system and Messi was somewhat ineffective because he's not as dangerous with his back to goal. When Zlatan came on the game changed. It allowed Messi to face defenders and run at will at them...which then created more space in the middle for Xavi and Iniesta to play dey self! But for me...man of d match was captain Puyol....he made 3 game saving tackles in the box for barca....blood sweat and tears from d captain yesterday!!! Great goal by Zlatan though. :beermug:

i concur! Puyol is and has been d heart and soul of d team! the epitome of barca!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2009, 03:51:03 PM

Marcelo is still rel shit though. steups

haha..yeah he's taken a step backward this season...

Looked good under Juande Ramos last season....but seems lost at the moment
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: Small Change on November 30, 2009, 06:50:45 PM
Ibrahimovic's MAIN job is to put the ball in de back of the net. Brand don't win games...........GOALS do! Whether he may seem slow or whatever, he is scoring and that is what a Striker MUST do!!!!!!!!!!!

People fight him down. He is a proven goal scorer.......he did it in Italy and now he is still putting the ball in the net.


He had a bad World Cup, just as the GREAT Marco Van Basten had a terrible WC in 1990
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid • 29 Nov 09
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 30, 2009, 07:48:57 PM
Ibrahimovic's MAIN job is to put the ball in de back of the net. Brand don't win games...........GOALS do! Whether he may seem slow or whatever, he is scoring and that is what a Striker MUST do!!!!!!!!!!!

People fight him down. He is a proven goal scorer.......he did it in Italy and now he is still putting the ball in the net.


He had a bad World Cup, just as the GREAT Marco Van Basten had a terrible WC in 1990

Yuh not wrong small change, we'll see how the rest of the Ibra chapter unfolds

i concur! Puyol is and has been d heart and soul of d team! the epitome of barca!

Dread, in a word "amazing" dais Puyol, dat is true blood, sweat, and tears, coming at yuh 115%, vat inclusive and he eh missin ah beat, best center back for me in the world right now, ah must in de hole
Title: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 23, 2010, 07:51:45 AM
Monday, 29 November 2010, 9:00, Barcelona Time
Monday, 29 November 2010, 4:00, Trinidad Time

Stadium:
Camp Nou, Barcelona
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/kammourewa/180px-Campnou_colors.jpg)

Guardiola vs Mourinho
Messi vs C.Ronaldo
Xavi vs Alonso
Pique vs Benzema
Puyol vs Ozil

07/08
LPB 4-1 Barca
Barca 0-1 LPB

06/07
Barca 3-3 LPB
LPB 2-0 Barca

05/06
Barca 1-1 LPB
LPB 0-3 Barca

League Ranks:
1st, Real Madrid, 32 Points, +27 GD
2nd Barcelona, 31 Points, +25 GD
3rd, Villarreal , 24 Points, +11 GD
4th, Espanyol, 22 Points, -1 GD
5th, Valencia, 21 Points, +5 GD
6th, Atlético Madrid, 20 Points, +6 GD

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/sport_75022.jpg)

Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona 0-2 (10.04.2010)
http://www.youtube.com/v/fR_56kuqx9c

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 23, 2010, 08:14:24 AM
Should be an epic show

looks like one of the ESPN's locally showing it... bess
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 23, 2010, 08:45:01 AM
Tink ah takin half day nex Monday  ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 23, 2010, 08:47:54 AM
Tink ah takin half day nex Monday  ;D

I stretching my thanksgiving TT trip for a extra day under 'working from home' vibes..

Yuh feel is joke! ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 23, 2010, 08:52:51 AM
You have meh dying with the LPB  :rotfl:

but that kinda disrespect will not be tolerated... licks for allyuh  >:(
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 23, 2010, 09:35:02 AM
You have meh dying with the LPB  :rotfl:

but that kinda disrespect will not be tolerated... licks for allyuh  >:(

**in meh Bunji voice**
Fyyyyaaaahhhhh for Los Putos Blancos.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 23, 2010, 10:03:17 AM
As has been the pattern in the last few years, I think Barca is still the better footballing side, but for the first time since Madrid won the 07/08 title I think los blancos might have enough to be the better side on the day.

El Clasico was barely a contest the last 2 seasons... Excited to see that change this season. 

Would be nice to silence the Nou Camp. 
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 23, 2010, 10:13:08 AM
I wonder what is jose plan for de clasico..

Take care he eh set up Real Madrid in a "gih-dem-de-ball" formation like Inter lol.

One thing for sure, ah bet they will be looking to exploit Busquets.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 23, 2010, 12:26:27 PM
I wonder what is jose plan for de clasico..

Take care he eh set up Real Madrid in a "gih-dem-de-ball" formation like Inter lol.

One thing for sure, ah bet they will be looking to exploit Busquets.

Pep eh chupid, as Busquets get rape he go bring on Mascherano, who, in my opinion, is a much better passer of the ball.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 24, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
Is Barcelona peaking for El Clasico?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/teamclasico.jpg)

Barcelona’s relatively slow start to the season was a source of worry for many fans: the loss to Hercules and the ties with Rubin Kazan, Mallorca and Copenhagen could have been written off as fluke results, but the bigger observation that the team seemed to lack the hunger in pressing that had been displayed in previous seasons was a bigger concern. Spanish sports writer Guillem Balague has suggested that this slow start was engineered by design, and that it was part of a bigger plan to peak for the month of November during a crucial run of games including Monday’s Clasico.

Speaking on last week’s Revista de la Liga, Balague noted explicitly that “The idea was to peak in November – that’s five consecutive victories and you can tell that Barcelona are sharp; sharp in terms of the pressure they put on high up the pitch, as they did against Villarreal. The intensity of the play and the pace of the distribution of the ball as well – all that shows a team that is physically at the peak of its powers.”

This was a plan apparently hatched by Barcelona’s technical staff to respond to the player fatigue that always follows a World Cup year, and to the resulting lack of a proper pre-season. Balague argues that games against Hercules were in fact Barcelona’s defacto preseason, and that the team is hitting its stride just in time to crush their rivals from Madrid.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 24, 2010, 10:55:25 AM
This game should be a true Clasico in trute

Barca now ketchin some form but Real has been FRIGHTENING this past lil while.

I eh know if Barca have de defensive strength to handle Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil etc
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 24, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
Its all about Messi !! This is the stage that great players excel on ...... Morinho's plan ??? how to stop messi from scoring and scoring and scoring !!! Guardiola's plan ...how to protect Messi from Real's avances.
We are seeing one of the greatest players of all time ....and he is still only 23 ... Tactics go out the window when games like this come up ....individuals turn the game ....If Messi scores Barca wins !!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 24, 2010, 12:09:07 PM
Is Barcelona peaking for El Clasico?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/teamclasico.jpg)

Barcelona’s relatively slow start to the season was a source of worry for many fans: the loss to Hercules and the ties with Rubin Kazan, Mallorca and Copenhagen could have been written off as fluke results, but the bigger observation that the team seemed to lack the hunger in pressing that had been displayed in previous seasons was a bigger concern. Spanish sports writer Guillem Balague has suggested that this slow start was engineered by design, and that it was part of a bigger plan to peak for the month of November during a crucial run of games including Monday’s Clasico.

Speaking on last week’s Revista de la Liga, Balague noted explicitly that “The idea was to peak in November – that’s five consecutive victories and you can tell that Barcelona are sharp; sharp in terms of the pressure they put on high up the pitch, as they did against Villarreal. The intensity of the play and the pace of the distribution of the ball as well – all that shows a team that is physically at the peak of its powers.”

This was a plan apparently hatched by Barcelona’s technical staff to respond to the player fatigue that always follows a World Cup year, and to the resulting lack of a proper pre-season. Balague argues that games against Hercules were in fact Barcelona’s defacto preseason, and that the team is hitting its stride just in time to crush their rivals from Madrid.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight .........
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Jah Gol on November 24, 2010, 12:36:20 PM
This game should be a true Clasico in trute

Barca now ketchin some form but Real has been FRIGHTENING this past lil while.

I eh know if Barca have de defensive strength to handle Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil etc
Real eh good enough to stop Iniesta and Messi.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 24, 2010, 01:40:01 PM
This game should be a true Clasico in trute

Barca now ketchin some form but Real has been FRIGHTENING this past lil while.

I eh know if Barca have de defensive strength to handle Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil etc
Real eh good enough to stop Iniesta and Messi.

Allyuh good enough to stop us?

Like yuh'n see how we man-handle Ajax yesterday ah wha?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: lefty on November 24, 2010, 01:57:56 PM
This game should be a true Clasico in trute

Barca now ketchin some form but Real has been FRIGHTENING this past lil while.

I eh know if Barca have de defensive strength to handle Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil etc
Real eh good enough to stop Iniesta and Messi.

I doh know nah it does seem like barca or any odder team vs Jose an whoever he coaching.................sort of like starcraft in d hands of ah korean u have to be wary
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 24, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
I doh let my allegiance cloud my vision so I go say it, I watch Barca play against Villareal 2 weekends ago, and Almeria last weekend in the 8-0 drubbing and in all honesty, it pains me to say it but Real Madrid eh ballin' like that...Barca have a chemistry and a precision that yuh doh see too often.  Their two weaknesses are that they can be a bit light weight at the back sometimes, and their counter-attack is not the quickest..

The difference between this Real Madrid side though, and the ones of the last 2 seasons is that they have some more quality, and more importantly they have a COACH that you can trust to prepare them better than any other for the big games- and THAT is what giving me some confidence going into this one.

Xabi Alonso and Ricardo Carvalho are the two players holding the team together while C.Ronaldo stealing all the headlines....
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 24, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
I doh let my allegiance cloud my vision so I go say it, I watch Barca play against Villareal 2 weekends ago, and in all honesty, it pains me to say it but Real Madrid eh ballin' like that...Barca have a chemistry and a precision that yuh doh see too often.

The difference between this Real Madrid side though, and the ones of the last 2 seasons is that they have some more quality, and more importantly they have a COACH that you can trust to prepare them better than any other for the big games- and THAT is what giving me some confidence going into this one.

Xabi Alonso and Ricardo Carvalho are the two players holding the team together while C.Ronaldo stealing all the headlines....

Hoss.....defence for defence.....who could keep who out?

Messi, Iniesta, Villa, & Pedro vs Carvalho, Pepe, Marcelo, & Arbeloa

Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil vs Pique, Puyol, Abidal, & Dani Alves

Should be a cracker
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 24, 2010, 04:35:59 PM
I doh let my allegiance cloud my vision so I go say it, I watch Barca play against Villareal 2 weekends ago, and in all honesty, it pains me to say it but Real Madrid eh ballin' like that...Barca have a chemistry and a precision that yuh doh see too often.

The difference between this Real Madrid side though, and the ones of the last 2 seasons is that they have some more quality, and more importantly they have a COACH that you can trust to prepare them better than any other for the big games- and THAT is what giving me some confidence going into this one.

Xabi Alonso and Ricardo Carvalho are the two players holding the team together while C.Ronaldo stealing all the headlines....

Hoss.....defence for defence.....who could keep who out?

Messi, Iniesta, Villa, & Pedro vs Carvalho, Pepe, Marcelo, & Arbeloa

Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil vs Pique, Puyol, Abidal, & Dani Alves

Should be a cracker


Indeed. I cyar wait.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 24, 2010, 04:40:18 PM

Hoss.....defence for defence.....who could keep who out?

Messi, Iniesta, Villa, & Pedro vs Carvalho, Pepe, Marcelo, & Arbeloa

Ronaldo, Higuain, Di Maria, Ozil vs Pique, Puyol, Abidal, & Dani Alves

Should be a cracker

I eh know jed- tough to call

Carvalho is the man, and Marcelo havin' a great season so far... and I hope they bring back in Ramos in place of Arbeloa even though if Ramos wake up on the wrong side of the bed yuh could never tell which player will show up to play.... Pepe good for one major f*ck up per game- yuh just hadda hope it goes unpunished

Pique and Puyol are tough but they're not that quick.  Abidal and Alves are better going forward than coming back.  Looks like Maxwell getting more of a run down the left than Abidal in the last few games.  

Anyone's game

Maybe it's because I's a RM fan so I overly cautious in how I talk...

I will agree with you that it should be a cracker.  
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 24, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
On paper and form I think this is the most evenly matched classico in a few seasons.
Can't wait.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 24, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
On paper and form I think this is the most evenly matched classico in a few seasons.
Can't wait.
reminds me of the 1986 WC final when germany met Argentina ...man to man Germany was stronger ... game was tight but a player turned the game ....a mirror image of that player is included in the Barcelona team ...without him Real would get my vote ... like playing the bulls without Jordan and then with Jordan playing ...the bulls were the world's best at the time ...but it mattered whether Michael was in town .... Messi is planning to be there ...
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 24, 2010, 07:37:55 PM
reminds me of the 1986 WC final when germany met Argentina ...man to man Germany was stronger ... game was tight but a player turned the game ....a mirror image of that player is included in the Barcelona team ...without him Real would get my vote ... like playing the bulls without Jordan and then with Jordan playing ...the bulls were the world's best at the time ...but it mattered whether Michael was in town .... Messi is planning to be there ...

Unfortunate but true.  Messi chose the wrong time (from the perspective of us Madrid fans) to hit form this season.  4 of the past 6 seasons before this one Barca has managed to have in their roster a player who is head and shoulders above the opposition.  It was Dinho, now it's Messi.

The difference between Madrid now and the Madrid that Ronaldinho ate for lunch in the Bernabeu is that Madrid THIS SEASON collectively is alot better.  Whether that is sufficient to make a meaningful difference, we will see on Monday. 
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 25, 2010, 08:35:31 AM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/testimo.jpg)

For Monday’s big game against Real Madrid, FC Barcelona has revealed their plans for a huge mosiac to be displayed at the Camp Nou at the start of the match. The tifo, featuring Barcelona and Catalunya’s colours, will also feature the phrase ’T’estimo Barça’ – I love Barça. The club is also pushing the use of the proposed mosaic through their social media sites.

As the official website reveals, it’s become a tradition at the Camp Nou, especially for big matches, to feature the stadium-wide tifos featuring the club’s colours and special messages to lift the players and fans before the match. And this year’s mosaic will be no exception.

In order to create the effect, a total of 100,000 plastic coloured cards will be used – 45,000 red ones, 35,000 blue and a further 20,000 yellow cards. The cards on the two sides of the ground will show the Barça colours, while both ends will make giant Senyeras –Catalan flags.

Greeting both sets of players as they walk out onto the pitch will be the words “T’estimo Barça”, a visual demonstration of the fans’ passion for the club.

To promote Monday’s match, Barcelona is encouraging its 7 million facebook fans to use this tifo as their profile picture in the days leading up to the match. Will you be changing your profile picture? If you do, make sure you show it off on our facebook page too! 

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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 25, 2010, 08:58:34 AM
Xavi: “Winning el Clasico is like having an orgasm”

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At odds with his teammates’ and coach’s code of silence pertaining to anything  that is related to the upcoming match against Real Madrid, Xavi Hernandez granted El Mundo Deportivo an interview on Monday that reminisced the biggest  bi-annual clashes Barcelona have had to play this past decade.

2000-01 | The return of Figo (2-0)> Figo’s first Clasico at the Camp Nou [after his defection]. I’ve never seen such hatred on a football pitch. There were some strong emotions and I distinctly remembered how Puyol did a great job marking Figo, and it was a good game for me too.

2001-02 | A draw with my goal (1-1)> Real came with Zidane, Bechkam, Ronaldo, Figo … and they were a level above us but we got a draw, and could even have won it. I was fortunate enough to have scored the equalizer.

2002-03 | The day of the piglet (0-0)> A day when we deserved to win. That match was made memorable for the piglet’s head that was thrown onto the pitch when Figo was about to take a corner kick. Some said it was a bad game but I think we were the superior side and deserved to win the match.

2003-04 | los Blancos superiority (1-2)> This was Rijkaard first year in charge, and Madrid, that year, was superior. There’s nothing else to say because they were the better side.

2004-05 | Cyclical Change (3-0)> It was a season of change. The end of an [first galaticos?] era. We had already won 1-2 at the Bernabeu in the first round. [At the Camp Nou] it was 3-0, and for the first goal, Eto’o ‘owned’ Roberto Carlos.

2005-06 | Injured and suffering (1-1)> I didn’t play because of an injury, and I remember that I suffered a lot. I saw that we could win it; we went ahead with a penalty for a Roberto Carlos fault on Van Bommel. I thought we would win it by 2 or 3 nil but then Ronaldo poked the ball past Victor. Madrid has always been able to conjure up something.

2006-07 | The emergence of Messi (3-3)> I remember that with one man down, after Oleguer was expelled, Messi ended a spectacular move to get the equalizer after Sergio Ramos had made it 2-3. That match was Messi’s.

2007-08 | A Clasico to forget (0-1)> It was a debacle. I remember that it was the last match to be played just before Christmas. It was an awful Christmas for us. We didn’t know what happened, but that year we seemed exhausted. In the end, we rather too easily surrendered the League title to Real Madrid.

2008-09 | An under-performing Madrid (2-0)> Madrid seemed like a small team, closely packed at the back. I was surprised by it. I remember that it never stopped raining and we were very impressive.

2009-10 | Ibrahimovic’s goal (1-0)> It was said Madrid had improved, but despite Busquets’ expulsion, we were on top of Madrid, not only at the Camp Nou but also at the Bernabeu.

Q & A

Best Clasico played at home.

The 3-0 win [2004-05], both on a personal level and collectively. We suffocated them the whole match.  I remembered, along with Deco, we said to ourselves “we’re going to take charge of this match, the whole match.” Physically, we were better, and it was a great match for us.

Worst Clasico played at home.

2003-04 because we had a sense of inferiority … They came with Beckham, Zidane, Roberto Carlos … They were superior and we felt powerless.

If you were to have a dinner appointment, who would you choose to go out with, Mourinho or Cristiano Ronaldo?

To have a talk about football… of the two… perhaps Mourinho. He has a lot more experience.

Player that you have had to struggle to cover.

Zidane. He was just spectacular. He showed you the ball and you thought you could steal it from him, but then he switched it to his other foot. He’s was the 90’s and early 2000′s best player.

Player that frustrates you the most.

Makelele. He was very resilient. When you saw him approaching, you thought: “this guy is going to nick it from me”. As did Redondo.

The goal you will never ever forget.

In the Bernabeu [2004-05], and what that goal meant. In the last minute, and it was the push that cemented the end of an era.

Best advice you received before a Clasico.

That of Guardiola’s: “Enjoy ourselves but don’t abandon our philosophy.”

Comments from a rival.

I was 18 and I remembered there was a ‘coming together’ at the Bernabeu, Raul then approached me and gave me a slap, and said, “Hey, calm it down.” I was dumbfounded. He was pulling rank over me, something we also did to Madrid’s young players.

A match that you would have liked to forget.

The 4-1 at the Bernabeu [2008]. Not because of the scoreline but for the sense of powerlessness that we felt on the pitch. I guess that’s how they felt with our 2-6 win [2009].

The Clasico that you remembered the most as a spectator.

The two 5-0. The one played here with the ‘Dream Team’ [1994], and then the reverse 5-0 the next year with Laudrup playing there. As a cule, I suffered a lot but it was a great match up.

A Clasico is comparable to a…

An orgasm when you win (laughing). It’s like gambling your [hard-earned] money in the casino. If you win, your heart skips a beat, but if you lose…

If you were to decide, who would you sign from Madrid?

My two friends, Iker and Xabi Alonso. But only to add to the squad, because neither can be better than what we already have here.

A Madrid player that you admired the most.

Raul, by far. I still have a good relationship with him. And Hierro too, who would be my choice for a captain. He is an incredible person even if the image that he transmitted does not correspond with reality. Over here, they loathed him a lot.

Worse Refereeing.

Perez Burrull, during the 4-1 defeat [2008], for the penalty he gave Madrid for a non-existent Puyol foul. And that of Losanto Omar who ruled out Rivaldo’s goal, but in hind sight it was the linesman fault, not him. With Undiano [the official assigned for Monday], we have always done well.

Regarding the 2-6, considering the margin, what image of that match has stuck with you since?

The feeling of superiority. You could see them talking to [accusing] each other, and it showed on their faces. On the other hand, we felt we could score another goal with every move we make.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 25, 2010, 09:01:52 AM
Yes, yes, yes  :rotfl:

4 1/2 day long weekend, sweet
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 25, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
reminds me of the 1986 WC final when germany met Argentina ...man to man Germany was stronger ... game was tight but a player turned the game ....a mirror image of that player is included in the Barcelona team ...without him Real would get my vote ... like playing the bulls without Jordan and then with Jordan playing ...the bulls were the world's best at the time ...but it mattered whether Michael was in town .... Messi is planning to be there ...

Unfortunate but true.  Messi chose the wrong time (from the perspective of us Madrid fans) to hit form this season.  4 of the past 6 seasons before this one Barca has managed to have in their roster a player who is head and shoulders above the opposition.  It was Dinho, now it's Messi.

The difference between Madrid now and the Madrid that Ronaldinho ate for lunch in the Bernabeu is that Madrid collectively is alot better.  Whether that is sufficient to make a meaningful difference, we will see on Monday. 

Kicker, Kicker, yuh does geh meh vex yuh know.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 25, 2010, 10:29:40 AM

Kicker, Kicker, yuh does geh meh vex yuh know.

LOL Wha ah do?

 ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 25, 2010, 11:00:09 AM

Kicker, Kicker, yuh does geh meh vex yuh know.

LOL Wha ah do?

 ;D

Always playing UN peacekeeper. This is the time for pure hate and acting normal.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 25, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
 ???
Decisions Decisions Decisions

hmmmm who i hate more ...

bess game ahead....anticipation is like CL final.....but aside from that..i dunno who i hate more.....Real or Barca...... i definately hate Real more, but everybody on Barca bandwagon....so i backing them to lorse...but... granted Real have ronaldo, the rest of girls diving and acting the same way as evident in the ajax game.....so they pissing me off and maybe i go back barca.....but then again barca winning too much and have tooo much supporters....,so is a nice opportunity to pong them.....


hmmmm........
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 25, 2010, 12:12:16 PM

Always playing UN peacekeeper. This is the time for pure hate and acting normal.

lol arrite arrite...
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 25, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
On paper and form I think this is the most evenly matched classico in a few seasons.
Can't wait.
reminds me of the 1986 WC final when germany met Argentina ...man to man Germany was stronger ... game was tight but a player turned the game ....a mirror image of that player is included in the Barcelona team ...without him Real would get my vote ... like playing the bulls without Jordan and then with Jordan playing ...the bulls were the world's best at the time ...but it mattered whether Michael was in town .... Messi is planning to be there ...

Don't forget that C. Ronaldo unlocked Pique and Puyol last week.
The 2 best players in the world goin head to head.  When last that happen in any league?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 26, 2010, 07:19:29 AM
Mourinho can plan Barca game with eyes closed
Reuters, Friday November 26 2010


* Mourinho has never won at the Nou Camp
* Barca possession game to be tested by Real counter-attacks
By Mark Elkington
MADRID, Nov 25 (Reuters) - If there is one man who should know how to end Barcelona's four-match winning streak in the 'Clasico' it is Jose Mourinho.
His inside knowledge of the club is second to none after working as assistant to Barca coaches Bobby Robson and Louis van Gaal in the late 90s but his record against them is mixed.
He has knocked Barca out of the Champions League twice -- once with Chelsea and last season in the semi-finals with Inter Milan -- although the overall statistics read three wins, three draws and four defeats as manager of Chelsea and Inter.
On top of that, Mourinho has never won at the Nou Camp. However, the 'special one' is supremely confident that he has the tactics to get the better of his former employers.
"I know how to play against Barca, from memory," Mourinho said in an interview back in September.
"You can deactivate them by imposing your style. If you want to play the way they do, you will lose... because individually and collectively they are the best (at that style)."
TACTICAL DISCIPLINE
Inter's 3-2 aggregate win over Barca in the Champions League semis points the way forward and the watchwords are tactical discipline, physical fitness and psychological strength.
"You can't let them catch you out in the first phase of possession," he said. "You have to go direct from the defensive area to the second or third phase with a long movement of the ball to surprise them.
"Barca have many more problems when they have to do steady build ups."
Real's standard lineup this season, with Xabi Alonso and Sami Khedira in the midfield holding roles, will be bolstered by the tracking back and harrying of Angel Di Maria, Mesut Ozil Cristiano Ronaldo and Gonzalo Higuain in Monday's 'Clasico'.
Mourinho has said he prefers zonal rather than man-to-man marking and through strict adherence to this he will seek to cut the supply lines from Xavi and company to the number one dangerman, Barcelona's top scorer Lionel Messi.
When Barca's possession breaks down, Real will try to pounce quickly on the counter-attack, with long balls behind their opponents' high defensive line.
PASSING GAME
The Catalans are second in the standings behind Real this season because they have dropped five points to the Madrid side's four in their 12 matches so far, and those five points were lost against teams managed by former Barca players.
Hercules's Esteban Vigo won 2-0 at the Nou Camp and Real Mallorca's Michael Laudrup drew 1-1 there last month.
"Everyone knows how to play against Barcelona," former Danish international Laudrup told Reuters in an interview. "The problem is that it's one thing on paper and another thing on the pitch.
"Barcelona always need the ball to feel good. Madrid don't... because they have so much quality on the counter-attack. In just three passes it can be a goal."
Barca will need plenty of zip in their passing game if they are to open up La Liga's tightest defence.
Pep Guardiola's side have essentially played the same way for a number of years, dominating possession, patiently working the ball around until they can pull the opposition open.
When they lose the ball they swarm around opponents looking to win it back deep in their rivals' half, and they will work hard to stop the game from opening up, when Ronaldo becomes a greater threat with wide open spaces to run in to.
Mourinho's Real have yet to lose in competitive or friendly matches since he took the helm and, with a one-point lead at the top, the onus will be on the hosts to make the running.


Preparation for El Clasico begins

The squad returned to training on Thursday evening with a gentle session designed for recovery after the team’s victory in Greece against Panathinaikos in the Champions League. The majority of the first team was present, along with 4 youth players, while only Valdes and Iniesta, who worked out in the gym, and the injured Milito were absent from the pitch.

The players were out on Pitch no. 1 at the Ciutat Esportiva Joan Gamper in the first session dedicated to preparing for Monday’s game against Real Madrid.

In Greece, Adriano had been substituted in the 76th minute as a precaution after feeling a twinge in his left calf. The player worked on his own during Thursday’s session with one of the coaches. The Brazilian was examined by the club doctors who decided that there wasn’t any damage and that he should be okay.

Both Víctor Valdés and Andrés Iniesta preferred to spend the session in the gym, and Gaby Milito was also absent as he continued with his recovery regime.

Joining the first team on Thursday were three familiar faces from the B team: Miño, Fontàs and Thiago, who had all made the trip to Athens. In addition, Juvenil A defender Ivan Balliu also joined the group working under Guardiola.

The squad will have Friday off and then training again at 11 am on Saturday morning. Afterwards, team captain Carles Puyol will speak to the press.

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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 26, 2010, 11:11:05 AM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 26, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

take two panadol ..that should fix things  :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 26, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 26, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

I like Villareal ...I was just giving Palos some friendly advice for he funny feelings ... Who do i think will win on Monday ?? ...the  team with Leo messi !
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 26, 2010, 03:25:16 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

I like Villareal ...I was just giving Palos some friendly advice for he funny feelings ... Who do i think will win on Monday ?? ...the  team with Leo messi !

I know you like Villa, I was asking Palos. And of course I'm going to say madrid will win.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 26, 2010, 03:30:53 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

Yup!

But yuh better put out a suicide watch fuh Jai John come Monday evenin  :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 26, 2010, 03:33:58 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

Yup!

But yuh better put out a suicide watch fuh Jai John come Monday evenin  :devil:

Yuh mean Disgruntled!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 26, 2010, 03:46:35 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

Yup!

But yuh better put out a suicide watch fuh Jai John come Monday evenin  :devil:

Yuh mean Disgruntled!

I backing meh side to the bitter end.

I suffered losses to Los Putos already, I clapped them out when they won the league on head to head, I watched Figo collect the hog head in the Nou Camp. Just another episode in the saga.

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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 26, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

Yup!

But yuh better put out a suicide watch fuh Jai John come Monday evenin  :devil:

Yuh mean Disgruntled!

Disgruntled could handle he stories

BUT WHEN ARGENTINA AND ARGENTINIAN PLAYERS FAIL TO STEP UP IN DE BIG MATCHES LIKE DEY ALWAYS DO....Jai does tote REAL feelings and ting   :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 26, 2010, 09:55:18 PM
I have a funny feeling RM will destroy Barca on Monday

Hope I'm wrong

You like Barca?  >:(

Yup!

But yuh better put out a suicide watch fuh Jai John come Monday evenin  :devil:

Yuh mean Disgruntled!

Disgruntled could handle he stories

BUT WHEN ARGENTINA AND ARGENTINIAN PLAYERS FAIL TO STEP UP IN DE BIG MATCHES LIKE DEY ALWAYS DO....Jai does tote REAL feelings and ting   :devil:

but it have argentinian players on both sides ...so what is yuh point ? ha ha ha ...what about your team sevilla ? de side yuh used to back when dey was winning ?? ... it eh have no argentinians to fail to step up dere ...just a few brazilians ... what happen dem eh stepping up or what ?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: trinipepper on November 27, 2010, 01:29:09 PM

It just some Argentinian and Brazilian are better than some...I have a feelin it go be some bacannal on the field tommorrow barca brillance against Jose cons... well real have started out really fine they played some good teams... barca started a lil shaky they played some awesome teams...hmmm.. I love la liga... barca bacanalist forever...  :beermug:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 28, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
Continuing their preparations for the Clásico on Monday, Barcelona’s first team was back in training on Saturday morning in cold temperatures at the Ciutat Esportiva Joan Gamper. Guardiola worked with 19 players, 18 from the first team and reserve Thiago Alcántara in temperatures hovering around 5° C (40° F).

After recovering from the mid-week Champions League match on Thursday, and enjoying a day off on Friday, coach Josep Guardiola raised the intensity level today as the team prepares for their important showdown against rivals Real Madrid on Monday night.

With the temperatures being fairly low (for Barcelona), the players were equiped with tracksuit bottoms, long sleeved shirts, neck warmers and even caps.

Except for Milito who is still recovering from injury, the other 18 members of the first team were all involved in the session. They were joined by regular addition Thiago Alcántara, midfielder from Barça B.

FC Barcelona’s first team will return to training on Sunday afternoon, starting at 18:00 in a closed session at Camp Nou. Afterwards, Josep Guardiola will attend the press conference prior to the match on Monday.

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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 28, 2010, 10:55:47 AM
Real will win
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 28, 2010, 11:06:27 AM
Real will win

Viva Ronaldo and Jose.... both will be at United in 2 years
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 28, 2010, 11:38:04 AM
Real will win

what de coin toss?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 28, 2010, 12:00:27 PM
Real will win

what de coin toss?

That too...  ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: weary1969 on November 28, 2010, 05:49:02 PM
Real will win

what de coin toss?

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 28, 2010, 06:35:32 PM
anyone know what local time it starting?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 28, 2010, 06:50:46 PM
Jose Mourinho supervised Real Madrid's final training session in preparation for tomorrow's Clasico in Barcelona. Only the injured Kaka and Gago missed the workout. Higuain, Khedira and Garay recovered from their niggles and joined the squad.

The twenty-three players available to the coach this morning began by doing physical exercises with fitness trainer Rui Faria. They did stretching workouts and tackled an obstacle course.

Ball work then took centre stage. The players divided into two groups, of 11 and 12, to play piggy-in-the-middle with two men inside each circle trying to recover the ball. This served to work on ball work and on pressurising the opponent. The rest of the exercises took place behind closed doors


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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 28, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
anyone know what local time it starting?

3:30pm on ESPN
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 29, 2010, 07:59:15 AM
anyone know what local time it starting?

3:30pm on ESPN

I thought i see 4:30 on the FLOW guide.

3:55...so i guess from 3:30 is de pre game show etc. Livescore have the kickoff at 4.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 29, 2010, 08:11:10 AM
For the locals with allyuh mercenary FLOW feed, question..

Would they be blocking the game to show it on Sportsmax or would it come over for sure on ESPN??
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 29, 2010, 08:20:17 AM
For the locals with allyuh mercenary FLOW feed, question..

Would they be blocking the game to show it on Sportsmax or would it come over for sure on ESPN??

Dat i doh know bout..and very concerned with.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 29, 2010, 08:23:24 AM
For the locals with allyuh mercenary FLOW feed, question..

Would they be blocking the game to show it on Sportsmax or would it come over for sure on ESPN??

Dat i doh know bout..and very concerned with.

Trying to figure out if to just go hutt shutts and take it in or chance it home.. I doh wanna miss a minute of that nuh.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
Look like I hadda miss the first 1/2 hour.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2010, 09:26:16 AM
Watching the entire match delayed  :-[

Staying off email, facebook, and ignoring all phones....
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 09:37:17 AM
el classico preview show (spanish) - http://www.webcaston.com/embed.php?fileid=futbolsinlimitesnet10&vw=780&vh=550&domain=myp2p.eu
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 09:43:44 AM
Real will win

what de coin toss?

That too...  ;D

Much better!  :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 09:45:41 AM
I'm running away from work. *heads off the call local pub to see if they're showing the match*
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 10:45:53 AM
Real Madrid coach stoned on arrival at Barcelona hotel for El Clásico
• Member of team's security staff struck on back of neck
• No players injured as window on coach shattered

A member of Real Madrid's security team was injured last night after the squad's coach was hit by bottles and stones as it arrived at their hotel in Barcelona, ahead of tonight's hotly-anticipated Clásico against their arch-rivals Barcelona.

About 2,000 mainly supportive fans were waiting at Barcelona's El Prat airport to welcome the leaders of La Liga, with trouble only flaring when the team arrived at the Hotel Rey Juan Carlos I. Supporters of both Real and Barcelona were waiting for them there, and missiles thrown by a small group, believed to be from the group of hardcore Barça fans known as Boixos Nois, broke a window near where Raul Albiol and Alvaro Arbeloa were sitting, and hit a member of the security staff on the back of the neck.

Players were forced to run between the coach and the hotel, but none of them sustained injuries.

The build-up to the game has been more intense than usual given the clubs' league positions – one point separates them, with Barcelona having lost one game and Real Madrid still undefeated – and the presence in their line-ups of the most celebrated players in the country, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Both teams have played 12 league games this season, in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals, with Messi two behind with 13.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/29/real-madrid-barcelona-coach-stoned-clasico
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 10:50:45 AM
Uh-oh, the Barca fans sound fearful.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: banton on November 29, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
Uh-oh, the Barca fans sound fearful.


peong always respect and love yuh opinon but something bout yuh page bothering meh just cant put mih finger on it
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Reports out of Spain that Higuain has failed a late fitness test...

accurate? mind games? we will see
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 11:30:40 AM
Reports out of Spain that Higuain has failed a late fitness test...

accurate? mind games? we will see

Yes, we shall ...  :o I doh know why that would be a mind game though.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=847326&sec=europe&cc=5901
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2010, 11:51:40 AM
That's tough but we doh need Higuain.

Casillas, Carvalho, Xabi Alonso and C. Ronaldo are the spine of the team- if one of them were missing I'd be a little worried....

Madrid has enough depth to cover the rest....
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 11:59:16 AM
That's tough but we doh need Higuain.

Casillas, Carvalho, Xabi Alonso and C. Ronaldo are the spine of the team- if one of them were missing I'd be a little worried....

Madrid has enough depth to cover the rest....

haha exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 29, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
I seeing a Barca win or a high scoring draw.

If Eto'o was still at Barca, would pretty much be a done deal but without him its less certain that Casillas will get bore.  (just thought i would throw that in to the mixer)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
all working links for the game for the ppl who watching online like me enjoy
http://www.kofss-stream.com/
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Change on November 29, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Any ONLINE links for the game??
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
confirmed gonzalo on d bench benzema starting
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: soccerman on November 29, 2010, 01:45:44 PM
You sure this game is on ESPN? I'm not seeing it on the listing.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 01:46:36 PM
Any ONLINE links for the game??

http://www.atdhe.net/29568/watch-fc-barcelona-vs-real-madrid
http://www.atdhe.net/29578/watch-fc-barcelona-vs-real-madrid
http://www.atdhe.net/29579/watch-fc-barcelona-vs-real-madrid

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=96084&part=sports
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 01:47:11 PM
hear are the links again http://www.kofss-stream.com/
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 01:48:08 PM
You sure this game is on ESPN? I'm not seeing it on the listing.

u living in Trinidad or foreign? flow digital its on chan 76 ESPNI
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: soccerman on November 29, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
You sure this game is on ESPN? I'm not seeing it on the listing.

u living in Trinidad or foreign? flow digital its on chan 76 ESPNI

I'm in the US and don't have ESPNI...I feel I have to duck out of work and run by a sports bar for 2 hours and come back.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 01:51:16 PM
Sky Sports just flashed a stat on screen that caught my eye...Messi has scored in hist last 9 games....stupendous  :beermug:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
REAL!!!!!! in alyuh tail  :devil: :whip:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
game start
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
boom bang
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 02:12:58 PM
thais ah offside goal
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2010, 02:13:06 PM
Xavi  ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 02:14:09 PM
Urgh! Who just score for Barca??? I'm delaying my lunch so i could watch the second half at the pub!!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 02:19:01 PM
xavi
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
pedro
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
eh? barca score 2 now :o
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 02:21:38 PM
2 offside goal.. they tiefing!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :angel:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Urgh! Who just score for Barca??? I'm delaying my lunch so i could watch the second half at the pub!!

xavi

pedro


all two both!

 :chilling:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: PantherX on November 29, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
Barca real making mas on...Real ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 02:22:35 PM
2-0 pedro
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 02:23:41 PM
Not seeing the game but Real gettin ambushed or wat? Or dey aint settle down yet?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
Not seeing the game but Real gettin ambushed or wat? Or dey aint settle down yet?

amjungle, dis is too much fuh it to be bush  :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 02:25:04 PM
Not seeing the game but Real gettin ambushed or wat? Or dey aint settle down yet?

the game open with barca in the ascendency... could be 2-2 all kinda ting. Real dangerous on the counter but Barca just dangerous.... and they tiefin  :angel:


tipping more and more Barca way as time go on though... but only because of the tiefin.... to be clear
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 02:27:27 PM
Dis could get rel ugly...wonder how mourinho will save face after a 5-0?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Trini Madness on November 29, 2010, 02:28:09 PM
its on espn deportes....thats if you have it
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: richpy on November 29, 2010, 02:31:52 PM
Real are getting over- run in midfield. Xavi and Iniesta gallerying. All kinda knock.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 02:33:39 PM
its on espn deportes....thats if you have it
Is it on ESPN8 The Ocho?

Barca not even looking troubled. Since they have a real goalie and defense, you don't feel they will get bored and let Real back into this game very easily like how Arsenal does. But them men stringing together 10-15-20 passes with Real only chasing shadows.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: richpy on November 29, 2010, 02:34:24 PM
Ronaldo push guardiola. Lol
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
ronaldo shove barca coach on d side line  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 02:35:02 PM
guardiola is ah bacchanal man!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: PantherX on November 29, 2010, 02:35:07 PM
Ronaldo being his usual petulant self.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Jah Gol on November 29, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
2 good goals
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: elan on November 29, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
That is rel biatch move by Crynaldo......how de hell you could push a coach.    :shameonyou:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 29, 2010, 03:01:17 PM
disappointed in Messi pulling a CR with that dive.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 29, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 03:03:20 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.


this game was supposed to be about Messi and Cronaldo..

but it turning out to be all about Xavi and Iniesta....


.... and how much dey does tief  :P
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 29, 2010, 03:03:27 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.

lets see what kinda tactics he will employ in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: PantherX on November 29, 2010, 03:03:35 PM
The MOTM for me so far are the match officials.  English referees need to spend some time in Spanish ref school.

Not even the special one could turn this around.

Mourinho needs to get some advice from Harry for this one :D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2010, 03:04:31 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.


this game was supposed to be about Messi and Cronaldo..

but it turning out to be all about Xavi and Iniesta....


.... and how much dey does tief  :P


Tell Marcello and Ozeil to put down dey handbrakes  :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:06:55 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.


this game was supposed to be about Messi and Cronaldo..

but it turning out to be all about Xavi and Iniesta....


.... and how much dey does tief  :P


Tell Marcello and Ozeil to put down dey handbrakes  :devil:

Murinho done tell him at half time.
Ozeil off, Lass on
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 03:09:34 PM
Not even the special one could turn this around.


this game was supposed to be about Messi and Cronaldo..

but it turning out to be all about Xavi and Iniesta....


.... and how much dey does tief  :P


Tell Marcello and Ozeil to put down dey handbrakes  :devil:

I understand that barcelona staff pour molasses and cold condensed milk in madrid players boots...

this character was seen amongst the stadium staff...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rfDi1MlSwiU/SVP7Pivp3aI/AAAAAAAABXs/1Iu49zbpXAU/s400/dastardly.gif)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:11:19 PM
Real in a mess
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:14:03 PM
hmmm, 3-nil now
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 29, 2010, 03:15:13 PM
Well from de time yuh see ozil sub out for lass.....yuh know he give up.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
 :whip: like fire!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:16:39 PM
lord 4 nil  ::)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Jah Gol on November 29, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
that one look offside.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: PantherX on November 29, 2010, 03:17:02 PM
The rout is on!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
 :whip: Like Peas!!!!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:17:19 PM
4-0!!!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 03:17:28 PM
first to goals was good but 3rd was offside
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 03:18:27 PM
is 3-0 eh peeps
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
LPB even win de coin toss?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bourbon on November 29, 2010, 03:18:52 PM
One more for the birthday cake! Long time i eh see a 5-0 classico!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 03:19:26 PM
my bad my link delayed
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:19:35 PM
If I was Hercules coach , I asking for a raise oui.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Jah Gol on November 29, 2010, 03:19:53 PM
Four !

(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2009/02/alg_tiger-woods.jpg)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
Look big side like Real gettin more licks than T&T.  T&T not that bad then  ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 29, 2010, 03:20:07 PM
BAHAHHAHHA

nutten for CR
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:22:16 PM
BAHAHHAHHA

nutten for CR

:devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: elan on November 29, 2010, 03:24:38 PM
Cutarse.....I thought it had the 2 best players in the world playing in this game. So far I only see 1.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 03:28:51 PM
This is amazing football. Given the opposition, probably one of the all-time great performances  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Yeh this is a wicked beat-down.  Looks like there's only one big side in Spain.
Barca just had about 20 uninterrupted passes.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: saga pinto on November 29, 2010, 03:30:51 PM
Totally outclassed by barcas exquisite football never in my life have I ever been mesmerized by such sweet mouthwatering passing they've had the ball in there possession for at least 9mins without real touching it...
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Jah Gol on November 29, 2010, 03:33:15 PM
That was perhaps the most beautiful 10 minutes of football I've ever seen.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:36:07 PM
Real are completely demoralised.  Di Maria want to cry and men just hittin bad passes.

Ronaldo want to cry too.

I doh like the Barca theatrics though.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 03:37:00 PM
d ref is shit he letting to much bs go on
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 03:38:15 PM
good game from barca madrid isnt ready as yet doh kno if we will be for d return leg april 16th
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRxRarbmi0h23DdCWePNjyYvB5w6qGUmCUymC822y8wROfaKEd4)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B1JtfOpd85I/Sorj0x2CEQI/AAAAAAAAS8Q/6RIC32zcpaM/s400/josep+pep+guardiola+coach+barcelona+smile.jpg)
I is not Wenger!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
Real is shit.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
lol Ronaldo with an amateur mistake.  Real just scared and can't ketch deyself. 
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: elan on November 29, 2010, 03:49:56 PM
Real Players rel Nasty boy.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
One for the thumb
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: elan on November 29, 2010, 03:50:56 PM
5-0
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:51:20 PM
ha! 5 nil :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:51:53 PM
Incredible.  Barca should push for number 6. Number 5 has been used already.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 03:53:22 PM
Sergio Ramos turning into the Incredible Hulk  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 03:54:33 PM
lol glad i is not a Real fan
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 03:54:58 PM
lol glad i is not a Real fan


(http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/622/GIFS/fallhate.gif)

We still gon win de league  8)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 03:55:25 PM
Ramos signal 5 to Puyol face :)

WHAT A BLOWOUT!!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 03:55:47 PM
Dis could get rel ugly...wonder how mourinho will save face after a 5-0?

 :whistling:

cant wait to see Mourinho's press conference
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: trinipepper on November 29, 2010, 03:57:47 PM
lol haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa barca blow out real...de student Pep spankin de special one... ronaldo kah make a note...brilliant beautiful barca....awesome football at the Nou camp... Awhhhhhhh
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2010, 03:58:39 PM
Dis could get rel ugly...wonder how mourinho will save face after a 5-0?

 :whistling:

cant wait to see Mourinho's press conference

  Jose will admit that his side was handily beaten and keep it moving.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 29, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
barca was barca good victory.............. dat ref is shit doh he was to call all dem fouls alonso and dem was making from d start he allow to much bs
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 04:00:57 PM
 :o
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Spursy on November 29, 2010, 04:01:36 PM
I LOVE RAMOS <3 WE LORSE DE MATCH BUT WE WIN THE FIGHT LOL
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 04:01:39 PM
That start my week off right.


Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: elan on November 29, 2010, 04:01:53 PM
That is real low class player from Real Madrid. Rel disappointed. No class whatsoever.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Observer on November 29, 2010, 04:02:24 PM
Mourinho read the game long time. His response in terms of subs was to plug holes and keep the score down. Ooops it eh wok!

Barca in the last 4-5 years have been playing the best football I have ever seen. Win or lose! Speilberg, with Cameron and Lucas help could not make it better even on Hollywood  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 29, 2010, 04:05:11 PM
Jose fall for the fans and press talk about Real will play defensive and try to get a result.... he decided to open up and take them on... Big mistake... Real not strong enough or fast enough in mid and defense to try to play against them...  they had to stay real tight and probably play Ronaldo through the center as a Striker

I sure he will regret that..hr could have been boring and dirty and been on top of the league.... instead of getting hit for 5 when it could have been 10

Which is the better question for the only football fans... yea 5 nil is more fun for the neutral..but wouldnt Real rather a snooze fest and go home on top?

Trophies is what it is all about.... I would take a 0-0 anyday If it meant not getting opened up and losing the grip in the race....  

Jose still young...he get bold and figure because Real destroying the lack of quality teams in La Liga he could beat the team that plays the best football by trying to match them... wrong... unfortunately Real fans and Jose will hadda take 5 to realise this...

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2010, 04:05:43 PM
...the last time RM were so badly embarrassed by Barca was when their home fans had to give Ro-Ro a standing-O.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2010, 04:07:33 PM
Jose fall for the fans and press talk about Real will play defensive and try to get a result.... he decided to open up and take them on... Big mistake... Real not strong enough or fast enough in mid and defense to try to play against them...  they had to stay real tight and probably play Ronaldo through the center as a Striker

I sure he will regret that..hr could have been boring and dirty and been on top of the league.... instead of getting hit for 5 when it could have been 10

Which is the better question for the only football fans... yea 5 nil is more fun for the neutral..but wouldnt Real rather a snooze fest and go home on top?

Trophies is what it is all about.... I would take a 0-0 anyday If it meant not getting opened up and losing the grip in the race....  

Jose still young...he get bold and figure because Real destroying the lack of quality teams in La Liga he could beat the team that plays the best football by trying to match them... wrong... unfortunately Real fans and Jose will hadda take 5 to realise this...




  small mag yuh talkin' nonsense.  Real *was gettin' lix* today, no matter their tactics.  Just like manu was never winning that CL final against Barca last year.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: sammy on November 29, 2010, 04:10:57 PM
this beat down just shows how shitty and one sided this league is.   :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Bitter on November 29, 2010, 04:20:02 PM
Small Mag, your comment about trophies etc is valid, but as I've said before, none of us love the game because we grew up watching 1-0 snooze-fests. (Road to Wembley anyone?)

The ultra-conservative, take what we could get and leave town philosophy is great if you're a fan. But we know Real has fired coaches who won the trophies ugly.

Murinho thought he had a side that could match Barca. Nothing in the season thus far suggested otherwise. You don't know unless you try. If the season goes as it has in the past few years, he will have a chance to determine his own fate in the return game in Madrid.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: fordy on November 29, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
what a game! barca shows how fooball supposed to be played! :beermug:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Blue on November 29, 2010, 04:21:34 PM
Real *was gettin' lix* today, no matter their tactics.

Spot on...that game wasnt about Real...when Barca play like that they are unplayable. :notworthy:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 04:22:45 PM
Last year?   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:    Small Mag we made it to the Final last year at the Bernabeau??

Reaper yuh delete yuh comment so I will let it slide.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 29, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
Kicker, yuh ok dread?  Hang tite man, all gwine be awrite
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: D.H.W on November 29, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
Kicker, yuh ok dread?  Hang tite man, all gwine be awrite

 :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: palos on November 29, 2010, 04:28:22 PM
Kicker, yuh ok dread?  Hang tite man, all gwine be awrite

Is Toppa I fraid for  8)
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 04:32:36 PM
People so focus on the managers and Messi v Ronaldo that dey forget that Xavi and Inesta playing winning quality football longer than Ozil and Xavi Alonso. Barca's big 3 better than Real's.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 29, 2010, 04:32:52 PM
That is my Spanish team...what ah beating!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 29, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Jose fall for the fans and press talk about Real will play defensive and try to get a result.... he decided to open up and take them on... Big mistake... Real not strong enough or fast enough in mid and defense to try to play against them...  they had to stay real tight and probably play Ronaldo through the center as a Striker

I sure he will regret that..hr could have been boring and dirty and been on top of the league.... instead of getting hit for 5 when it could have been 10

Which is the better question for the only football fans... yea 5 nil is more fun for the neutral..but wouldnt Real rather a snooze fest and go home on top?

Trophies is what it is all about.... I would take a 0-0 anyday If it meant not getting opened up and losing the grip in the race....  

Jose still young...he get bold and figure because Real destroying the lack of quality teams in La Liga he could beat the team that plays the best football by trying to match them... wrong... unfortunately Real fans and Jose will hadda take 5 to realise this...




  small mag yuh talkin' nonsense.  Real *was gettin' lix* today, no matter their tactics.  Just like manu was never winning that CL final against Barca last year.

you probably right about them getting beat..Barca was just real good and up for it today

but I asked valid questions to fans.. what would they rather...

but yea I understand why he thought they could win... but it was a false illusion
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Toppa on November 29, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
Kicker, yuh ok dread?  Hang tite man, all gwine be awrite

Is Toppa I fraid for  8)

I am very fine, thank you.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: soccerman on November 29, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
Dat was a beat down...Barca ran circles around them in the mid field and took advantage of the off the ball running on the weak side with disguised and clever passing. I wouldn't lie they exposed PePe today, a lot of times he seemed lost when it came to marking. A clinic by Barca :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kingdavid on November 29, 2010, 06:30:10 PM
During his traditional post-match press conference, Mourinho commented that he is optimistic that his team will bounce back from Monday’s defeat next weekend against Valencia.


"I am not humiliated at all. This is the biggest defeat I have ever suffered in league play. It is hard to swallow because we never had a chance of winning. It wasn’t one of those defeats that leave a bad taste in your mouth because we didn’t deserve to lose or because the referee performed badly or because the ball hit the post. One team played as well as it could and the other played badly. It is a deserving win and a deserving defeat, which makes it easy to swallow."

"The difference between the two teams is a championship that will be even until the end. Barcelona is a finished piece of work after many years together. Real Madrid isn’t a finished product and needs a lot of time to be one. Today’s score is not the difference between the two teams. The outcome is a reward for the team that played well and a punishment for the team that played poorly. It is an easy score to explain and swallow. I am obviously saddened because no one likes to lose, especially by such a large margin."

"I hope this does not affect the players psychologically. I told them exactly that. That the championship didn’t end today. Who knows if we will return to this stadium again this season? Last year I lost here with Inter and a few months later we returned, qualified for the Champions League final and they got stuck at home watching it on television. We must have character. I always tell players that they have reason to cry with joy after winning important matches. You cannot cry when you concede four or five goals. You must be anxious to return to work and win the next match. I wish the Valencia match was tomorrow and not Saturday. After such a bad match you must go right back to work, play and win."

"We gave up two goals close to the net. The ease with which we gave up possession resulted in two goals that were our fault. Down 2-0 against a team that is deadly on the counterattack you have two options. You can settle for the 2-0 or you can try to pressure more. Barcelona played a fantastic match. I am only concerned about my team, which has played phenomenal football until now. Today we played bad and on Saturday we must prove that today’s score was a fluke by returning to our winning ways."

"This wasn’t a tense match. I didn’t feel I could really help. I tried to during halftime, but the game was over once Barcelona scored the third goal. I didn’t want my team to lose its balance and dignity until the end of the match. I knew early on that we had no chance and I felt a little helpless not being able to help accomplish what we wanted."

"I am disappointed because I expected much better, but so did the players. We expected much more. We all feel the same, but the match is over. There is nothing left for us to do. As of tomorrow, there is a lot. We must wait until the next match and continue two points off the lead."


Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 06:30:36 PM
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Jose Mourinho does not believe that Real Madrid were humiliated after they suffered a crushing 5-0 defeat at the hands of rivals Barcelona on Monday night.

Goals from Xavi, Pedro, a double from David Villa and a last-gasp effort from Jeffren saw Barcelona secure a victory that sends them top of the Primera Liga and inflicted the worst defeat of Mourinho's career.

Real also saw Sergio Ramos dismissed late on at Camp Nou but although he admitted his team played poorly, Mourinho denied the result represented a full-scale embarrassment for his side.

"One team played very good, one team very bad," Mourinho said. "One deserved to win and deserved to lose. Humiliated? No. It's easy to deal with this loss, we just weren't good enough.

"We gifted them two goals that were almost ridiculous. I was watching the game. I tried to change things at the interval and we came out quite well, but then they scored again and there was nothing I could do - the game was lost.

"Last week we had a point more than Barcelona and today we have a point less. And as I have always said, Barca is the finished article while Madrid is still a long way off that."

Guardiola - who when asked if this result could result in Mourinho's departure, as an 8-0 win over Almeria saw Juanma Lillo lose his job, replied: "I don't think so" - said of the result: "'This match isn't representative of the difference between the two teams. They are a very good team, they came here unbeaten and as league leaders. Today all of our players played well and that was the difference.

"Now it's very easy to we are better than them, but only time will tell. In a few years time, we will see. They are on a spectacular level, but we were better today.

"In these two years we have been superior to Madrid - that's true. With time, we can enjoy these things more,'' he said. And we will enjoy this for a few days now as well."

Villa, who converted following two superb passes from Lionel Messi, said: "It's been a very important win. We looked for the victory and we got it. And the result and the manner in which we achieved it, you cannot ask for more.

"We are two points clear. We need to continue working hard. We are in November. Just as before the game nothing was lost, now neither have we won anything. We have an advantage but we need to continue working."

Real midfielder Xabi Alonso insisted that all is not yet lost in La Liga after Real suffered their first defeat of the season.

"We didn`t expect a game like this but there's a lot of the season left and this isn't over," Alonso told AS. "They have made things a lot easier for themselves by scoring the first so early and then getting the second quickly. It's been very difficult. We have to learn from the mistakes we've made."



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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
Ronaldo joined the wrong side.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on November 29, 2010, 06:38:35 PM
Ronaldo joined the wrong side.

should have never left the right side  ;D
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 29, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
Ronaldo joined the wrong side.

allyuh good yes... allyuh is seer men or wha?

ah man today say how fans is fickle people... never truer words was spoken...
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 29, 2010, 07:06:25 PM
Barca played well, Madrid played terribly.

The better side won- nothing else to say.  It's like trying to explain why 4 is less than 5. 

Congrats Barca fans...we'll be back.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Observer on November 29, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Ray Huson was in real fom today>

His first one was "Messi so fast that he could follow you into a revolving door and come out first."  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Then he say "Real Defense getting stretched like Spandex on a Miami beach."
 :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 07:19:48 PM
Ronaldo joined the wrong side.

allyuh good yes... allyuh is seer men or wha?

ah man today say how fans is fickle people... never truer words was spoken...


Not being fickle, I am not a Real fan. But you know the old sayin 'if you can't beat dem join dem", hence me sayin he join the wrong side. By the way it was tongue in cheek. Better?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
Ramos doing what he can to get revenge.

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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: weary1969 on November 29, 2010, 07:42:03 PM
BARCA RULES
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Peong on November 29, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
The passing on display today was orgasmic.
I never see a team knock like Barca.
The ability of so many Barca players to work in the smallest of spaces is incredible.
Then when the other team gets the ball, Barca swarm them like ants.
Best teamwork I ever see.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 29, 2010, 09:12:42 PM
Ronaldo joined the wrong side.

allyuh good yes... allyuh is seer men or wha?

ah man today say how fans is fickle people... never truer words was spoken...


Quick point; Ronaldo was right when he said Barca wouldn't score 8 on dem. I know yuh side loss so hard luck dey. :beermug:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 29, 2010, 11:34:21 PM
Ray Huson was in real fom today>

His first one was "Messi so fast that he could follow you into a revolving door and come out first."  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Then he say "Real Defense getting stretched like Spandex on a Miami beach."
 :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: DeSoWa on November 30, 2010, 12:25:48 AM
Wow! what a beat down! Or should I say RM get beat up by ah big side  :devil: ;D

Big Up!

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: JDB on November 30, 2010, 04:45:16 AM
From the Guardian MBM  reader suggestions:

El Outclassico
El Trashico
El Smashico
El Crashico
El Clumsico
El Kick Assico
El Orgasmico
El Castratico
El Cataclysmico

I ent see the game or the highlights but anytime Mourinho get his ass handed to him it is Magnifico.
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: Dumplingdinho on November 30, 2010, 07:22:33 AM
Ray Huson was in real fom today>

His first one was "Messi so fast that he could follow you into a revolving door and come out first."  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Then he say "Real Defense getting stretched like Spandex on a Miami beach."
 :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl:

that is a classic....i hope barca doh get carried away with this win....we still have plenty work to do
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 30, 2010, 09:01:54 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 30, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !


Who at this time with this side can get better results than Jose? Plus you already claimed that Messi and Barca are unstoppable; so what is firing Jose going to change?
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
Jose fall for the fans and press talk about Real will play defensive and try to get a result.... he decided to open up and take them on... Big mistake... Real not strong enough or fast enough in mid and defense to try to play against them...  they had to stay real tight and probably play Ronaldo through the center as a Striker

I sure he will regret that..hr could have been boring and dirty and been on top of the league.... instead of getting hit for 5 when it could have been 10

Which is the better question for the only football fans... yea 5 nil is more fun for the neutral..but wouldnt Real rather a snooze fest and go home on top?

Trophies is what it is all about.... I would take a 0-0 anyday If it meant not getting opened up and losing the grip in the race....  

Jose still young...he get bold and figure because Real destroying the lack of quality teams in La Liga he could beat the team that plays the best football by trying to match them... wrong... unfortunately Real fans and Jose will hadda take 5 to realise this...


I don't agree that Jose went out to "outplay" Barca.  Madrid started the game very conservatively, and put everyone behind the ball.  They sat deep in a zonal formation and they played flat at the back.  He tried to beat Barca the same way he beat them with Inter.  A deep zonal formation that allowed Barca to play with the ball in front of them, with a focus on closing down Messi who starts his runs from deep.  

There were some big differences however:

1- David Villa runs the channels alot better than Ibra.  If you have horses up front running the channels like Villa and Pedro, you can't allow Messi and Xavi and Iniesta to keep the ball so much with that much time.  They will pick you off, and so they did- almost every through pass was a dangerous opportunity on goal- which highlighted another difference:

2- They were too flat at the back! There was no cover....almost every through pass was successful.  Against Barca last season, Inter didn't have to worry as much because the ball was being flighted into Ibra who plays with his back to the goal...so you could play flat and focus on Messi who makes all of his runs from deep...But the way Villa moves is a different story- a flat backline is asking for problems. I don't think they (Inter) played as flat last season against Barca...

3- The defensive shift that Eto'o put in as a forward was no where matched by C. Ronaldo or Benzema.  

4- There was no midfielder on RM yesterday who could release the ball as quickly and accurately as Sneijder did for Inter last season, when Real actual gained possession of it.  

All in all Barca just played a fantastic game all around- They would have beaten anyone the way they played last night.  I don't think that they are a 5 goals better than Madrid.  I mean they beat lesser teams by less.

Madrid was slightly unfortunate not to weather the early storm, and at 2-0 the game was over.  By the time Mourinho made the tactical switch by bringing Lass on to close up the channels, it was too late. Barca found a rhythm that was simply unbreakable on the night.

Barca is better than Madrid no doubt (I've admitted that since the start of this thread), but on a good day Madrid has the quality to play with them if they get the tactics right.  Yesterday was not that good day...not even close.  

With all the money that Madrid has spent on players, some guys still need to prove themselves in the Madrid shirt.  Ozil and Di Maria for e.g. don't show me enough over 90 minutes, and the team relies on them for creativity.  Ozil hides for long periods, and Di Maria is so raw sometimes he looks like can't even trap the ball cleanly and make a sharp cut without falling down. Khedira (sp?) needs to build some personality as well...He was invisible last night as he often is...  

As Jose said, it's a work in progress (the team)...we'll see...

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 09:20:04 AM
Good post kicker...

also I find jai john in his praises of messi, does kind of bring down barcelona in a way...

This barcelona team is the culmination of years of a particular kind of system, that is now bearing fruit in some irresistable football, that does bring tears to the eyes... this last 6-7 years generation of barcelona football is probably the best i ever see in my life (the best anybody has seen maybe) ... and i shudder to think that they may only get better...

my only consolation is that xavi ent have too much years left :praying: please god  ;D

side note: xavi completed 114 of 117 passes last night... the 6th time he has gone over 100 complete passes in a game.... only one other man ever do it... xabi alonso and the game pass he straight last night
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 30, 2010, 09:21:37 AM
Jose fall for the fans and press talk about Real will play defensive and try to get a result.... he decided to open up and take them on... Big mistake... Real not strong enough or fast enough in mid and defense to try to play against them...  they had to stay real tight and probably play Ronaldo through the center as a Striker

I sure he will regret that..hr could have been boring and dirty and been on top of the league.... instead of getting hit for 5 when it could have been 10

Which is the better question for the only football fans... yea 5 nil is more fun for the neutral..but wouldnt Real rather a snooze fest and go home on top?

Trophies is what it is all about.... I would take a 0-0 anyday If it meant not getting opened up and losing the grip in the race....  

Jose still young...he get bold and figure because Real destroying the lack of quality teams in La Liga he could beat the team that plays the best football by trying to match them... wrong... unfortunately Real fans and Jose will hadda take 5 to realise this...


I don't agree that Jose went out to "outplay" Barca.  Madrid started the game very conservatively, and put everyone behind the ball.  They sat deep in a zonal formation and they played flat at the back.  He tried to beat Barca the same way he beat them with Inter.  A deep zonal formation that allowed Barca to play with the ball in front of them, with a focus on closing down Messi who starts his runs from deep.  

There were some big differences however:

1- David Villa runs the channels alot better than Ibra.  If you have horses up front running the channels like Villa and Pedro, you can't allow Messi and Xavi and Iniesta to keep the ball so much with that much time.  They will pick you off, and so they did- almost every through pass was a dangerous opportunity on goal- which highlighted another difference:

2- They were too flat at the back! There was no cover....almost every through pass was successful.  Against Barca last season, Inter didn't have to worry as much because the ball was being flighted into Ibra who plays with his back to the goal...so you could play flat and focus on Messi who makes all of his runs from deep...But the way Villa moves is a different story- a flat backline is asking for problems. I don't think they (Inter) played as flat last season against Barca...

3- The defensive shift that Eto'o put in as a forward was no where matched by C. Ronaldo or Benzema.  

4- There was no midfielder on RM yesterday who could release the ball as quickly and accurately as Sneijder did for Inter last season, when Real actual gained possession of it.  

All in all Barca just played a fantastic game all around- They would have beaten anyone the way they played last night.  I don't think that they are a 5 goals better than Madrid.  I mean they beat lesser teams by less.

Madrid was slightly unfortunate not to weather the early storm, and at 2-0 the game was over.  By the time Mourinho made the tactical switch by bringing Lass on to close up the channels, it was too late. Barca found a rhythm that was simply unbreakable on the night.

Barca is better than Madrid no doubt (I've admitted that since the start of this thread), but on a good day Madrid has the quality to play with them if they get the tactics right.  Yesterday was not that good day...not even close.  

With all the money that Madrid has spent on players, some guys still need to prove themselves in the Madrid shirt.  Ozil and Di Maria for e.g. don't show me enough over 90 minutes, and the team relies on them for creativity.  Ozil hides for long periods, and Di Maria is so raw sometimes he looks like can't even trap the ball cleanly and make a sharp cut without falling down. Khedira (sp?) needs to build some personality as well...He was invisible last night as he often is...  

As Jose said, it's a work in progress (the team)...we'll see...



Kicker, how yuh doin bredda, yuh ok?  Good assessment, RM time will come, not dis season doh  :devil:
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 09:24:04 AM
kicker ah next ting... leading up to the game i was telling partners that real madrid have too many "Clasico rookies" and it will be hard for them to handle the pressure... that Nou Camp ent easy to play in especially in that kind of atmosphere, with barca running at full steam...

Ozil, Khedira and DiMaria... yeah dey come through the World Cup and Champions league football, but they never come through something like this...

DiMaria make a primary school savannah football gaffe in de first half... try to trap a ball under no pressure and it roll under he foot.. that speak volumes to me

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 09:36:17 AM
kicker ah next ting... leading up to the game i was telling partners that real madrid have too many "Clasico rookies" and it will be hard for them to handle the pressure... that Nou Camp ent easy to play in especially in that kind of atmosphere, with barca running at full steam...

Ozil, Khedira and DiMaria... yeah dey come through the World Cup and Champions league football, but they never come through something like this...

DiMaria make a primary school savannah football gaffe in de first half... try to trap a ball under no pressure and it roll under he foot.. that speak volumes to me


True- Some of dem fellas eh seasoned enough.  In a big game like that alotta times it's the first 20 mins in each half that makes the difference- Bunker down and survive the storm...then start playing when the game settle... The more youth and nerves yuh have in the line up, the harder that is.   

When iz one and two goal in yuh arse early in the game and the whole 100,000 in the Nou Camp start tuh get on yuh back, and iz only tock tock and beat Xavi and Iniesta puttin' on yuh to the sound of OLE OLE...and yuh chasin' shadows without a clue, if yuh eh have the right belly yuh probably wish yuh never got outta bed in the morning. 
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 09:42:42 AM

Kicker, how yuh doin bredda, yuh ok?  Good assessment, RM time will come, not dis season doh  :devil:

Hahaha yeah man I good...It was rough though. 

Wha about de Wifey come home and see me in the middle of watching the game (Delayed/DVR) and encouraged me to "get out and get some fresh air..."  stress lol....
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 30, 2010, 09:57:02 AM

Kicker, how yuh doin bredda, yuh ok?  Good assessment, RM time will come, not dis season doh  :devil:

Hahaha yeah man I good...It was rough though. 

Wha about de Wifey come home and see me in the middle of watching the game (Delayed/DVR) and encouraged me to "get out and get some fresh air..."  stress lol....



 :beermug:  de beatiful game boy, one thing is for sure for us TT and other fans on this board, RM will bounce back, de TT national team?  Steups
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 10:00:30 AM
I eh go lie, i am a Chelsea fan and I get more than a lil sour on Barca when they sell Eto'o. But I have no issue in admitting that when they play football the way they did yesterday, they are the absolute epitome of how the game of football should be played.

I see some ridiculous kinda knock in that game. Iniesta watching a teammate with 2 Real Madrid coming hard men on his back and still giving him the ball to foot for a one bounce back to knock off the ball again..

I see a string of about 10 one touch passes, like back in small goal when men say we playing one touch and out.

I see Real Madrid press the life out of the Barca defensive third, and men just casually stroking the ball around them like cones, coming out of that sauce and they gone again. Absolute brilliance.

Small Mag you real wrong. Jose could not set up his team like Inter did and play de 'gih-dem-de-ball' formation because his team is not yet constructed to play like that. They don't have the personnel or the workhorses to make that system happen, that Inter side was 2 full years in the making. You forget what happen to them when they bounce up Barca in the second round in Jose's first year or what?

I giving Jose real credit for his press conference though. There is no better way that he could have responded to such a humiliating defeat that would help to keep his team psychologically on track. "Real Madrid played at their worst and Barca at their best" is the perfect cover for the truth of the matter which is that they were blown off the pitch by a team that is light years ahead of them.

Cristiano Ronaldo... still a goat in the highest. If you are supposed to be the best player in the world, you should look it and you should make your teammates look better too. When the pressure is on, he does fold up like a potato roti.

kicker ah next ting... leading up to the game i was telling partners that real madrid have too many "Clasico rookies" and it will be hard for them to handle the pressure... that Nou Camp ent easy to play in especially in that kind of atmosphere, with barca running at full steam...

Ozil, Khedira and DiMaria... yeah dey come through the World Cup and Champions league football, but they never come through something like this...

DiMaria make a primary school savannah football gaffe in de first half... try to trap a ball under no pressure and it roll under he foot.. that speak volumes to me


Good observation, I was thinking the same thing. Yuh coulda see it on Di Maria face, the youth look totally overawed by the occasion. Ozeil, Khedira and Benzema were non-factors and well Marcelo was a shambles. Psychologically the game was lost when you have your star players trying to give up the responsibility of having the ball instead of making something happen.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
FC Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid
1-0 : Xavi 10'
2-0 : Pedro 18'
3-0 : Villa 55'
4-0 : Villa 58'
5-0 : Jeffren 90+1'


LINEUPS:
FC Barcelona: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abidal, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, and Villa
Real Madrid: Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Marcelo, X. Alonso, Khedira, Ozil, C. Ronaldo, Di Maria, and Benzema

SUBSTITUTES:
FC Barcelona: Pinto, Adriano, Maxwell, Mascherano, Keita, Bojan, and Jeffren
Real Madrid: Dudek, M. Diarra, Arbeloa, Albiol, Pedro Leon, Lass, and Higuain

SUBSTITUTIONS:
FC Barcelona: Bojan on for Villa (76′), Keita on for Xavi (87′), Jeffren on for Pedro (87′)
Real Madrid: Lass on for Ozil (46′), Arbeloa on for Marcelo (60′)

CAUTIONS:
FC Barcelona: Valdes (33′), Villa (34′), Messi (45′), Puyol (80′), Xavi (93′)
Real Madrid: C. Ronaldo (33′), Pepe (36′), X. Alonso (51′), Carvalho (71′), Ramos (73′), Khedira (75′), Ramos (RED, 92′)

Barcelona 67% Time of Possession 33% Real Madrid
(I thought it would be more than that)

1974: Real Madrid 0-5 Barcelona
1994: Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid
1996: Real Madrid 5-0 Barcelona

http://www.youtube.com/v/Rnf-zlGDbAY

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/afbeforethe5.jpg)
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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 30, 2010, 10:43:44 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !


Who at this time with this side can get better results than Jose? Plus you already claimed that Messi and Barca are unstoppable; so what is firing Jose going to change?

No team in la liga looked so hopeless against Barcelona ....Real madrid did not just lose ...they were humiliated... when last have you seen  men backheeling a backheel and playing wall passes facing the wrong way ? ! it was  total embarassment and the players seemed powerless to stop it. It was like rubbing salt in the faces of all Real madrid fans all over the world ..
The statement of the coach was very unfortunate in such circumstances . It was as if it was " no big ting " My point was ..it was and is !

Every former Real madrid player would have been embarassed by this  defeat .....Di Stephano, Zidane, Valdano, Raul et al ..and then there are the fans ...You could well imagine how some of them must be facing going to work today . This was a red letter day for madrid fans worldwide...You want to know why Jose has to thread carefully ? ..because none of them want to see this happen again . This eh T&T society you know where some women go call een blocking all de lines when your team disappoints to say ..we love you kerry boy...we still love you Latas boy !( I hope you old enough to get this and therefore lived through the experience) Of course they had little regard for football and national pride and for all the food vendors who remained with their boil corn, crab and dumplin, pelao and mauby unsold.

Read the comment of Pep guadiola after the Barca Vs Villareal game of two weeks ago ...dey eh treat we so ...no team eh making no 20 passes to de  front, back and side ah we ..No team in world football !...and Villareal is ah small side ...point ah making again is dat is Real Madrid we talking bout ...and no coach is too big to be fired not after that performance ....dais all

Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 10:48:24 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !


Who at this time with this side can get better results than Jose? Plus you already claimed that Messi and Barca are unstoppable; so what is firing Jose going to change?

No team in la liga looked so hopeless against Barcelona ....Real madrid did not just lose ...they were humiliated... when last have you seen  men backheeling a backheel and playing wall passes facing the wrong way ? ! it was  total embarassment and the players seemed powerless to stop it. It was like rubbing salt in the faces of all Real madrid fans all over the world ..
The statement of the coach was very unfortunate in such circumstances . It was as if it was " no big ting " My point was ..it was and is !

Every former Real madrid player would have been embarassed by this  defeat .....Di Stephano, Zidane, Valdano, Raul et al ..and then there are the fans ...You could well imagine how some of them must be facing going to work today . This was a red letter day for madrid fans worldwide...You want to know why Jose has to thread carefully ? ..because none of them want to see this happen again . This eh T&T society you know where some women go call een blocking all de lines when your team disappoints to say ..we love you kerry boy...we still love you Latas boy !( I hope you old enough to get this and therefore lived through the experience) Of course they had little regard for football and national pride and for all the food vendors who remained with their boil corn, crab and dumplin, pelao and mauby unsold.

Read the comment of Pep guadiola after the Barca Vs Villareal game of two weeks ago ...dey eh treat we so ...no team eh making no 20 passes to de  front, back and side ah we ..No team in world football !...and Villareal is ah small side ...point ah making again is dat is Real Madrid we talking bout ...and no coach is too big to be fired not after that performance ....dais all


Yeah but Jai a Barca v Villareal is not a Barca v Real Madrid, how yuh go compare the two in such simplistic terms?

The level of passion Barca coming into the clasico with is 200%, every man jack going full throttle and extra which is why the level of football we saw from them is far and above nothing we saw this season.

Real couldn't match that level. Lets be honest, if Barca played like that against Villareal with the same level of motivation they would probably take 5 too.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 10:50:31 AM
dinho... plus de fans baying for blood eh... papayo!

i would self destruct... villareal ent have to face dat. (i ent dissing yuh side eh jai.. i like them)

Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: palos on November 30, 2010, 11:03:50 AM
At de end of de day....fuh all de heavenly, galactical football Barca play yesterday, is jes 3 points.

Daz it.

Battle won.  Not just won.....but comprehensively, completely, & utterly so.

But the war still wagin, and it have PLENTY battles to go still before it over

Yuh tink if Madrid win La Liga dem go tell deyself, "boy...ah woulda really rather we did duss dem out at de Nou Camp yuh know"

This was football from the GODS yesterday.  I never see football so in meh life.  Not Spain in 2008.  Not Barca wit Ronaldinho, Maradona, & Cryuff.  Not Real wit Zidane and Ronaldo.  Not Brazil 82.  And DAT is de greatest compliment I could pay Barca.

I always felt that Brazil 82 was the greatest football team I have ever seen.  Until yesterday

And is still only 3 points.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: giggsy11 on November 30, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
FC Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid
1-0 : Xavi 10'
2-0 : Pedro 18'
3-0 : Villa 55'
4-0 : Villa 58'
5-0 : Jeffren 90+1'


LINEUPS:
FC Barcelona: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abidal, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, and Villa
Real Madrid: Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Marcelo, X. Alonso, Khedira, Ozil, C. Ronaldo, Di Maria, and Benzema

SUBSTITUTES:
FC Barcelona: Pinto, Adriano, Maxwell, Mascherano, Keita, Bojan, and Jeffren
Real Madrid: Dudek, M. Diarra, Arbeloa, Albiol, Pedro Leon, Lass, and Higuain

SUBSTITUTIONS:
FC Barcelona: Bojan on for Villa (76′), Keita on for Xavi (87′), Jeffren on for Pedro (87′)
Real Madrid: Lass on for Ozil (46′), Arbeloa on for Marcelo (60′)

CAUTIONS:
FC Barcelona: Valdes (33′), Villa (34′), Messi (45′), Puyol (80′), Xavi (93′)
Real Madrid: C. Ronaldo (33′), Pepe (36′), X. Alonso (51′), Carvalho (71′), Ramos (73′), Khedira (75′), Ramos (RED, 92′)

Barcelona 67% Time of Possession 33% Real Madrid
(I thought it would be more than that)

1974: Real Madrid 0-5 Barcelona
1994: Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid
1996: Real Madrid 5-0 Barcelona

http://www.youtube.com/v/Rnf-zlGDbAY

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/afbeforethe5.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/76810_469773236093_501751093_6026826_2359242_n.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/610x1.jpg)
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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/x61010.jpg)
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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/qqo0.jpg)



The pic of Abidal holdin up five fingers in front of Ronaldo is priceless! Wat can he do, but take it!
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: giggsy11 on November 30, 2010, 11:12:16 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !


Who at this time with this side can get better results than Jose? Plus you already claimed that Messi and Barca are unstoppable; so what is firing Jose going to change?

No team in la liga looked so hopeless against Barcelona ....Real madrid did not just lose ...they were humiliated... when last have you seen  men backheeling a backheel and playing wall passes facing the wrong way ? ! it was  total embarassment and the players seemed powerless to stop it. It was like rubbing salt in the faces of all Real madrid fans all over the world ..
The statement of the coach was very unfortunate in such circumstances . It was as if it was " no big ting " My point was ..it was and is !

Every former Real madrid player would have been embarassed by this  defeat .....Di Stephano, Zidane, Valdano, Raul et al ..and then there are the fans ...You could well imagine how some of them must be facing going to work today . This was a red letter day for madrid fans worldwide...You want to know why Jose has to thread carefully ? ..because none of them want to see this happen again . This eh T&T society you know where some women go call een blocking all de lines when your team disappoints to say ..we love you kerry boy...we still love you Latas boy !( I hope you old enough to get this and therefore lived through the experience) Of course they had little regard for football and national pride and for all the food vendors who remained with their boil corn, crab and dumplin, pelao and mauby unsold.

Read the comment of Pep guadiola after the Barca Vs Villareal game of two weeks ago ...dey eh treat we so ...no team eh making no 20 passes to de  front, back and side ah we ..No team in world football !...and Villareal is ah small side ...point ah making again is dat is Real Madrid we talking bout ...and no coach is too big to be fired not after that performance ....dais all




But firing Jose or Jose coming out and say what he really feels about the score/match/players will be helpful to whom? Ah sure Jose want to say "I can't believe how poor Benzeima has been or that he wishes he had Messi instead of Ronaldo". But I am sure he also realizes that he has a league to win and thinking about how he can use this defeat to deconstruct the style of certain players so as to put his system in place so they can get the results he usually gets. So if you think he should go, name his replacement that you believe will do a better job at this  in time point.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2010, 11:13:37 AM
Mods, all yuh seriously merge this thread with last year own??

Day after day we are bombarded with:
Rooney stumps his toe.
Alex Ferguson is Constipated.
Berbatov in transvestite sex scandal.
Rooney told to jock 3 times a week.
Nani sucking too much n@nny.
and so on and so forth yet a thread about one of the biggest games in the world get merged?

Me eh know nuh!!
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/sig-1.jpg)

Anyhow, Kicker I think you encapsulated it well enough.

The flat back 4 was the major undoing of Real. With no set striker to mark it was a waste of time. Villa was coming in from the left and Pedro from the right and Messi was coming in from deep the Real back 4 was bound to get pick apart. Pepe and Carvalho are no speed demons and with Marcelo and Ramos trying to get forward at times it was destined for lash.

Messi showed why he is the world's greatest yesterday. From jumpsteet he would've known that he would be heavily marked and instead of trying to do everything for himself he provided for others and brought them into the game. And boy did he provide!! The pass to Villa for his 2nd goal was sublime, he took on the whole defensive midfield and then split the defense with a killer pass fading out at least 6 Real players in the process.

Xavi and Iniesta were there usual telepathic self and they reminded me of why they won against ManU in the CL Finals. It is not that the keep the ball so well, it is the few times that they loose the ball they get back and smother the Real players so much till they get it back. It must be really frustrating to watch a side string together 20-something passes and all yuh could do is chook-a-foot in vain.

Which brings me to Ramos. His behaviour was inexcusable and appalling to say the least. Kick down one player and slap 2 Barca players, who, are his countrymen, and with them he won the WC.

If I was Xavi, Puyol et al, I would not pass him the salt, the ball or anything else the next time Spain comes together.   

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/x6104.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Peong on November 30, 2010, 11:22:29 AM
Nah yuh can't begrudge Ramos.  The man just get raped in front of 100000 fans.  That is pain few ppl have ever felt.  His Spanish teammates will forgive him soon enough.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
Nah yuh can't begrudge Ramos.  The man just get raped in front of 100000 fans.  That is pain few ppl have ever felt.  His Spanish teammates will forgive him soon enough.


Yeah it have men (no names calling) does cuss out and almost fight with they very own team-mates every week for less... and still go and lime and drink beers normal after... dem fellas go be cool

wha bout Ramos pass Hierro for the most red carded player in Real Madrid history and he is only 24. That is wild man

Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 30, 2010, 11:29:01 AM
RM does not have the personnel necesarry to employ the tactics jose knows can work to beat Barca.  @ Inter he had 6 defensively aware and focused players in his starting XI.  He also had the commitment of players like Eto Sneider et al to help on defense.  There is no possible way that he could have employed the same tactic with this team and won.  If you compare position for position Inter in playing the style they did to achieve success against Barca is miles ahead.  Apart from that @ Inter he didn't have to put up with Villa's pace to attach himself to through balls.  Ramos is a waste to me, Marcello was out of his depth.  Benzi did nothing, Di Maria was a bundle of nerves, Ozil was ineffective.  Ronaldo?  Was he even on the pitch.  While I thoroughly enjoyed the Barca display I was grossly disappointed in RM.  Hats off to Barca though because the passing was simply phenominal.  Them fellas ha no conscience to make some ah dem passes they did in the spaces they put them.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
Nah yuh can't begrudge Ramos.  The man just get raped in front of 100000 fans.  That is pain few ppl have ever felt.  His Spanish teammates will forgive him soon enough.


To "gey way" with the opposing teammates is one ting. But to ring Puyol pan and bark Xavi a slap is another ting. Me eh feel dem taking dat jus so. Would you? Cuss meh bout meh mudda c#$t, kick down the water cooler I could take all dat. But ah burners as yuh walking off and yuh ring meh captain pan before dat? NAH!
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: jai john on November 30, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
dinho... plus de fans baying for blood eh... papayo!

i would self destruct... villareal ent have to face dat. (i ent dissing yuh side eh jai.. i like them)



Then you should know that this is Barcelona's first victory against Villareal in the Camp Nou under Pep and the two previous years encounters ended in draws.and Messi again proved the big game difference ...go and watch the highlights again ..
Yes the fans support is very important and yes the players would be more fired up for a classico but I was very disappointed with the manner in which Real capitulated even resorting to violence ...you see de tackle Lassana put on Messi from behind ?..and de game was almost over...
Pepe it de man a right and a left and he was still running past him .....with the ball at is feet !
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: palos on November 30, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
Hats off to Barca though because the passing was simply phenominal.  Them fellas ha no conscience to make some ah dem passes they did in the spaces they put them.

You realize that the Real players put INTENSE pressure on the Barca players when receiving the ball right?  Watch de game good.  Everytime a Barca player go to colleck de ball it had men hustlin and kickin.  AND STILL dey was in total control as you observed.

No sah.....this wasn't because of any lack of personnel on Real side to employ de tactics Jose used previously.  This was mortals (REAL MADRID) playing against the extraterrestrial yesterday.  The technique on display from the Barca players almost to a man yesterday was out of this world.

BTW....I think Pepe have to be the fastest player in football today.

Dat man have toes sah!  Wheeeeyyyyysss.  And he did make a tackle on Messi yesterday when Messi did break away in de first half......crumple him legally yes and gone wit de ball.  Impressive player.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Peong on November 30, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Nah yuh can't begrudge Ramos.  The man just get raped in front of 100000 fans.  That is pain few ppl have ever felt.  His Spanish teammates will forgive him soon enough.


To "gey way" with the opposing teammates is one ting. But to ring Puyol pan and bark Xavi a slap is another ting. Me eh feel dem taking dat jus so. Would you? Cuss meh bout meh mudda c#$t, kick down the water cooler I could take all dat. But ah burners as yuh walking off and yuh ring meh captain pan before dat? NAH!
It wasn't no slap, both of them get pushed in the face.
And look:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=847478&sec=europe&cc=5901
Puyol plays down Ramos spat

Barcelona captain Carles Puyol has played down the incident at the end of El Clasico that saw Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos confront him and Xavi following his late sending off

Ramos was shown a straight red card after scything down Lionel Messi in the 90th minute of Madrid`s 5-0 defeat at the Camp Nou and, in the ensuing fracas between the rival teams, Ramos put his hands into the faces of Barca duo Puyol and Xavi as they remonstrated with him.

However, Puyol, who was pushed to the floor by his fellow Spain international, made light of the incident, saying in AS: "These things happen in a game of football. I've gone to defend a team-mate of mine because it seemed a very tough tackle.

"They are moments of high tension, but what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch. I have a very good relationship with Sergio Ramos and it's already forgotten. I have more important things to think about."

Puyol added: "There are always different piques with the players from Madrid because they are our biggest rivals, but it's a pique on the field of play. We have many friends in the other camp."

Regarding the match, which saw Barca move two points above previously-unbeaten Madrid at the top of the table with their fifth successive Clasico win, Puyol said: "I didn't expect a thrashing like that but, when you least expect it, it can happen. Now we need to enjoy this victory.

"We had a very complete game and played very well. We started very aggressively, playing our football and everything went perfectly."
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 11:47:48 AM
To "gey way" with the opposing teammates is one ting. But to ring Puyol pan and bark Xavi a slap is another ting. Me eh feel dem taking dat jus so. Would you? Cuss meh bout meh mudda c#$t, kick down the water cooler I could take all dat. But ah burners as yuh walking off and yuh ring meh captain pan before dat? NAH!

Ramos loss he head, but I think them fellas get over that already.  The level of passion flowing through them men veins is a ting we will never understand, but as professionals they (most of them) know how to leave that on the field....  I wouldn't be surprised if Puyol, Ramos and Xavi done joke 'bout that and overs the scene...

Wha bout yuh boy Pep and all hold a push fuh he gamesmanship lol....
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 30, 2010, 11:50:12 AM
Jose must go !! As league leader you get embarassed in such a manner ...and you " dont feel humiliated " ? Tell that to the club President ! This is Real Madrid  ....the club that fired a coach after he won the league title but lost to Barcelona.

Like Jose too busy in front the mirror to realize that where Barca and Real Madrid are concerned bragging rights count the most. I was loking at the smirking Barca President next to a grave looking Real Madrid President ... jose could well see the door if he is not careful.

I said it before Barca with Messi is unstoppable. It is like a ferrari in a car race and a ferrari driven by Schumacher in a car race !

Now all dem peeps who looking for solace in Jose's  words ...wake up !! this was the biggest club game in world football ..you live for this game as a player, fan, sponsor, Tv station....it does not get any bigger than this.

....with the world watching you get caught with your pants down  and you not humiliated ?


No way jose !


Who at this time with this side can get better results than Jose? Plus you already claimed that Messi and Barca are unstoppable; so what is firing Jose going to change?

No team in la liga looked so hopeless against Barcelona ....Real madrid did not just lose ...they were humiliated... when last have you seen  men backheeling a backheel and playing wall passes facing the wrong way ? ! it was  total embarassment and the players seemed powerless to stop it. It was like rubbing salt in the faces of all Real madrid fans all over the world ..
The statement of the coach was very unfortunate in such circumstances . It was as if it was " no big ting " My point was ..it was and is !

Every former Real madrid player would have been embarassed by this  defeat .....Di Stephano, Zidane, Valdano, Raul et al ..and then there are the fans ...You could well imagine how some of them must be facing going to work today . This was a red letter day for madrid fans worldwide...You want to know why Jose has to thread carefully ? ..because none of them want to see this happen again . This eh T&T society you know where some women go call een blocking all de lines when your team disappoints to say ..we love you kerry boy...we still love you Latas boy !( I hope you old enough to get this and therefore lived through the experience) Of course they had little regard for football and national pride and for all the food vendors who remained with their boil corn, crab and dumplin, pelao and mauby unsold.

Read the comment of Pep guadiola after the Barca Vs Villareal game of two weeks ago ...dey eh treat we so ...no team eh making no 20 passes to de  front, back and side ah we ..No team in world football !...and Villareal is ah small side ...point ah making again is dat is Real Madrid we talking bout ...and no coach is too big to be fired not after that performance ....dais all




But firing Jose or Jose coming out and say what he really feels about the score/match/players will be helpful to whom? Ah sure Jose want to say "I can't believe how poor Benzeima has been or that he wishes he had Messi instead of Ronaldo". But I am sure he also realizes that he has a league to win and thinking about how he can use this defeat to deconstruct the style of certain players so as to put his system in place so they can get the results he usually gets. So if you think he should go, name his replacement that you believe will do a better job at this  in time point.

They will miss Pellegrini for one ...even with his hands tied he did a good job ...they pick a side and give him and did not allow him to drop certain players ...they changed that and gave Jose full control ...who they go put ? I said already they sacked the world cup winning coach after he won the league ...it matters not who coming ..is Real Madrid ! is who going ! If they feel you cant get the job done you could get a vote of confidence today and a pink slip tomorrow ... when they sacked pellegrini they had no replacement ...Del bosqe was the assistant who was asked to stay on ...he won and then lost ! they have their special way of managing the club ....and the special one had better respond in a manner to convince them that he is able to give them victory ...is over 400 million dollars in players we talking here ... if dat eh good enough ..then it just might be you eh good enough ...they doh care if Real finish runners up with the most points they have accumulated in liga ...that is what Pellegrini did last season and after giving him a confidence vote he was out de door.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 30, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
Hats off to Barca though because the passing was simply phenominal.  Them fellas ha no conscience to make some ah dem passes they did in the spaces they put them.

You realize that the Real players put INTENSE pressure on the Barca players when receiving the ball right?  Watch de game good.  Everytime a Barca player go to colleck de ball it had men hustlin and kickin.  AND STILL dey was in total control as you observed.

No sah.....this wasn't because of any lack of personnel on Real side to employ de tactics Jose used previously.  This was mortals (REAL MADRID) playing against the extraterrestrial yesterday.  The technique on display from the Barca players almost to a man yesterday was out of this world.

BTW....I think Pepe have to be the fastest player in football today.

Dat man have toes sah!  Wheeeeyyyyysss.  And he did make a tackle on Messi yesterday when Messi did break away in de first half......crumple him legally yes and gone wit de ball.  Impressive player.

Pepe did what he could and I rate him as a defender.  Cava wasn't bad either but Marce and Ramos was rubbish.  I agree RM was trying hard to close down but when yuh compare Inter defensive approach the players were better prepared and better skilled in some positions defensively.  I agree what we saw was out of this world though so maybe RM defense should get ease up?  Nah frig dat dem was ah waste lol.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
To "gey way" with the opposing teammates is one ting. But to ring Puyol pan and bark Xavi a slap is another ting. Me eh feel dem taking dat jus so. Would you? Cuss meh bout meh mudda c#$t, kick down the water cooler I could take all dat. But ah burners as yuh walking off and yuh ring meh captain pan before dat? NAH!

Ramos loss he head, but I think them fellas get over that already.  The level of passion flowing through them men veins is a ting we will never understand, but as professionals they (most of them) know how to leave that on the field....  I wouldn't be surprised if Puyol, Ramos and Xavi done joke 'bout that and overs the scene...

Nah Ramos outta timing, and this ent the first time..

He does always get skin out in big game and clasico because he is an average defenders. Remember the 6-2 when Messi buse him on the wing?

Is a long time I on Ramos case and passion or no, he shouldn't aggress his international teammates like that. Allyuh see the play when Casillas (capitan) run up and start to bouf men from Barca?

Ramos to me is central to the problem that i have with Real Madrid. When he was bought from Sevilla, he had the world of potential, but when he gets to Real Madrid all of a sudden he is supposed to be some finished product even though he void of the proper development. Now he feel he reach and trying all kinda stupid beat on the wing and not getting back, and he could look good against Almeria but does get shown up against strong opposition. And when he get properly shown up he will lash out because it hitting he ego.

Real is not a team that knows how to recognize and manage the talent at their disposal, it is a revolving door.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2010, 11:56:57 AM
In my Darth Vader voice:

The circle is now complete, the student has become the master.
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Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 12:02:39 PM

They will miss Pellegrini for one ...even with his hands tied he did a good job ...they pick a side and give him and did not allow him to drop certain players ...they changed that and gave Jose full control ...who they go put ? I said already they sacked the world cup winning coach after he won the league ...it matters not who coming ..is Real Madrid ! is who going ! If they feel you cant get the job done you could get a vote of confidence today and a pink slip tomorrow ... when they sacked pellegrini they had no replacement ...Del bosqe was the assistant who was asked to stay on ...he won and then lost ! they have their special way of managing the club ....and the special one had better respond in a manner to convince them that he is able to give them victory ...is over 400 million dollars in players we talking here ... if dat eh good enough ..then it just might be you eh good enough ...they doh care if Real finish runners up with the most points they have accumulated in liga ...that is what Pellegrini did last season and after giving him a confidence vote he was out de door.

Pelligrini deserved another shot.  He did a good job with Madrid and he played Barca closer in both legs than any other coach did since Pep took over at the Nou Camp.  And he didn't sit back and defend Barca either... They played their game and created chances but narrowly came 2nd.

I think Pelligrini lost the job because of the early CL exit. As much as RM hates to lose to Barca, I think his mandate was to win the CL and that is where he failed.  

I was one of the few that I know who was not overly thrilled wth Mourinho's appointment (I respect his quality, but I personally do NOT like what appears to be his footballing philosophy), and in all honesty the jury should still be out on Jose...esp after last night.  
Title: Re: El Clásico - FC Barcelona v Real Madrid, 29 Nov 2010
Post by: jai john on November 30, 2010, 12:19:46 PM

They will miss Pellegrini for one ...even with his hands tied he did a good job ...they pick a side and give him and did not allow him to drop certain players ...they changed that and gave Jose full control ...who they go put ? I said already they sacked the world cup winning coach after he won the league ...it matters not who coming ..is Real Madrid ! is who going ! If they feel you cant get the job done you could get a vote of confidence today and a pink slip tomorrow ... when they sacked pellegrini they had no replacement ...Del bosqe was the assistant who was asked to stay on ...he won and then lost ! they have their special way of managing the club ....and the special one had better respond in a manner to convince them that he is able to give them victory ...is over 400 million dollars in players we talking here ... if dat eh good enough ..then it just might be you eh good enough ...they doh care if Real finish runners up with the most points they have accumulated in liga ...that is what Pellegrini did last season and after giving him a confidence vote he was out de door.

Pelligrini deserved another shot.  He did a good job with Madrid and he played Barca closer in both legs than any other coach did since Pep took over at the Nou Camp.  And he didn't sit back and defend Barca either... They played their game and created chances but narrowly came 2nd.

I think Pelligrini lost the job because of the early CL exit. As much as RM hates to lose to Barca, I think his mandate was to win the CL and that is where he failed.  

I was one of the few that I know who was not overly thrilled wth Mourinho's appointment (I respect his quality, but I personally do NOT like what appears to be his footballing philosophy), and in all honesty the jury should still be out on Jose...esp after last night.  

Exactly. I must admit though he gets results and that is why he is there ..he certainly does not epitomise the " galactico football " that Real wants to claim as their own . so as I have been trying to say if he does not get results ...like his immediate predecessor ...what's to stop the boss from making the call ?
Three jobs are considered very dangerous ...a chilean miner , a suicide bomber and a coach at Real Madrid  :beermug:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 12:57:31 PM
Ah hear Sporting Gijon coach Manolo considering filing ah complaint with La Liga that another team has just gone to the Nou Camp and thrown a game....  :rotfl:

La Liga fans go understand de bacchanal behind this lol
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
Ah hear Sporting Gijon coach Manolo considering filing ah complaint with La Liga that another team has just gone to the Nou Camp and thrown a game....  :rotfl:

La Liga fans go understand de bacchanal behind this lol

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: kicker on November 30, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
Ah hear Sporting Gijon coach Manolo considering filing ah complaint with La Liga that another team has just gone to the Nou Camp and thrown a game....  :rotfl:

La Liga fans go understand de bacchanal behind this lol

oh lawd  :rotfl:

hilarious!

Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 30, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
Whey dis fella?

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Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Observer on November 30, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
Ah hear Sporting Gijon coach Manolo considering filing ah complaint with La Liga that another team has just gone to the Nou Camp and thrown a game....  :rotfl:

La Liga fans go understand de bacchanal behind this lol

Oh sh*t!  :rotfl: :rotfl: you eh easy
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: palos on November 30, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
Ah hear Sporting Gijon coach Manolo considering filing ah complaint with La Liga that another team has just gone to the Nou Camp and thrown a game....  :rotfl:

La Liga fans go understand de bacchanal behind this lol

Dat sweet!!!  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: dinho on November 30, 2010, 02:03:01 PM
At de end of de day....fuh all de heavenly, galactical football Barca play yesterday, is jes 3 points.

Daz it.

Battle won.  Not just won.....but comprehensively, completely, & utterly so.

But the war still wagin, and it have PLENTY battles to go still before it over

Yuh tink if Madrid win La Liga dem go tell deyself, "boy...ah woulda really rather we did duss dem out at de Nou Camp yuh know"

This was football from the GODS yesterday.  I never see football so in meh life.  Not Spain in 2008.  Not Barca wit Ronaldinho, Maradona, & Cryuff.  Not Real wit Zidane and Ronaldo.  Not Brazil 82.  And DAT is de greatest compliment I could pay Barca.

I always felt that Brazil 82 was the greatest football team I have ever seen.  Until yesterday

And is still only 3 points.

Palos.. It was actually 6 points with potential for more.

Thats a matchup against direct title rivals = 3 pt swing in either direction, plus Barca crack dey mental which could see them lose even more.
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2010, 02:19:03 PM
Nah yuh can't begrudge Ramos.  The man just get raped in front of 100000 fans.  That is pain few ppl have ever felt.  His Spanish teammates will forgive him soon enough.


Yeah it have men (no names calling) does cuss out and almost fight with they very own team-mates every week for less... and still go and lime and drink beers normal after... dem fellas go be cool

wha bout Ramos pass Hierro for the most red carded player in Real Madrid history and he is only 24. That is wild man



I know who that is call names and I will whistle   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: FF on November 30, 2010, 02:21:15 PM

Yeah it have men (no names calling) does cuss out and almost fight with they very own team-mates every week for less... and still go and lime and drink beers normal after... dem fellas go be cool

wha bout Ramos pass Hierro for the most red carded player in Real Madrid history and he is only 24. That is wild man



I know who that is call names and I will whistle   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

you is ah bacchanal man or wha?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
yah don know  ;D
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: palos on November 30, 2010, 06:38:32 PM
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Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: giggsy11 on November 30, 2010, 07:16:08 PM
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 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: kingdavid on November 30, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Whey dis fella?

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2KaVm3NsZVMLyU31rxv4aJASZnzQOh_cCy_rJaeq7GxdVFb7G)

dey say he in brazil in his final recovery stage, jose say "kaka will be real madrid star signing in d winter window" :|
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Mango Chow! on November 30, 2010, 08:52:55 PM
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 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: giggsy11 on December 01, 2010, 10:57:07 AM



I will take this Brazil team over Barca any day. Just reading this recap of that match brings back the memories of that World Cup; sweet, quality and sexy football. It was fun watching it with my brothers and in Trinidad, nobody outside when the matches were on!
 

Www.brazil.com/cultural/sports/world cup/1982
         
 Brazil in the 1982 World Cup



Valdir Peres, Leandro, Oscar, Falcão, Luisinho and Júnior;
Sócrates, Cerezzo, Serginho, Zico and Éder.

The team: Valdir Peres, Leandro, Oscar (C), Luisinho and Júnior; Toninho Cerezzo, Falcão, Sócrates and Zico; Serginho and Éder.
Reserves: Paulo Sérgio (G), Carlos (G), Edevaldo, Juninho, Edinho, Pedrinho, Batista, Paulo Isidoro, Renato, Roberto Dinamite and Dirceu.
Coach: Telê Santana.

The matches:
Brazil 2 x 1 Soviet Union
Brazil 4 x 1 Scotland
Brazil 4 x 0 New Zealand
Brazil 3 x 1 Argentina
Brazil 2 x 3 Italy



The Preparation
All results of the South America Qualifyings for the World Cup 1982. Brazil played the qualifyings against Venezuela and Bolívia; as it was the norm those times, Brazil won all four matches.

The team of 1982 usually appears in surveys as one of the best Brazilian teams of all time (other candidates are the team of the World Cups of 1970 and of 1958). The team had a combination of talented players and an offensive coach.



 Telê Santana assumed the command of the Brazilian team in 1980. His philosophy was that football should be a show, both for those playing and for those watching the matches. He was radically against violence. For Telê, his teams should always be seeking to score goals.
And he had some players to help him. Zico is one with highest number of matches for Brazil and most goals scored. Falcão had led his team Internacional to the tri-champíonship in Brazil, and became known as "King of Rome", for having led the Roma, from Italy, to the scudetto. Sócrates, a physician with name of philosopher, combined talent and intelligence. Toninho Cerezzo, besides skillful, was said to have an extra pair of lungs. Falcão, Zico and Sócrates appeared in the list of 10 best players of the 1982 Cup.
The team had still the powerful shots of left-forward Éder, the abilities of Júnior, the experience of Oscar.

There were a few weak links. The goalkeeper, Valdir Peres, didn't inspire much confidence even among fans of his team, São Paulo. Many defended that Leão, who had played in the cups 1974 and 1978, and would still play in 1986, should have played in Spain.
The center-forward, Serginho, was tamed by Telê Santana; Serginho was more a kind of bad boy, used to playing tricks with the nerves of the adversaries to create goals opportunities; in the team of Telê, this kind of attitude was prohibited; Serginho, one of the best strikers of his time, lost much of his potential. The favourite of Telê for the position was Careca, who would play later in the cups of 1986 and 1990; Careca suffered a serious injury already in Spain, and had to be substituted by Roberto Dinamite, who had been Brazil's striker in the 1978 Cup; rumours of the epoch said that Roberto's wife had links with black magic, and had arranged for Careca's contusion.




Before the Cup, there was some discussion in Brazil whether the four cracks should play together, as they were all offensive. Matters were complicated by the fact that Cerezzo could not play the first match (he had been expulsed in a previous official match); his substitute, Paulo Isidoro, was doing a good job in occupying the right-forward position; by putting all four together, there would be no one occupying that position.

Telê stick to his philosophy, and Brazil would play an as offensive as possible scheme.
In 1981, after winning all matches of the qualifyings, Brazil did an European tour, and won England, France and Germany at their homes; the team would not lose any match until the Cup kicked off; Brazil arrived to Spain as the favourite.




The matches
Brazil won the first match, 2 x 1 against Soviet Union. The Soviets didn't shoot much, but in one of the few times, Valdir Peres failed and let the ball in. Sócrates scored at 28' of second half, and Éder at 43'. The team played well, but the victory had not been easy.
For the second match, as planned, Paulo Isidoro left and Toninho Cerezzo entered. Brazil won Scotland by 4 x 1, and indeed played well; Zico, Oscar, Éder and Falcão scored. Fans and media approved the scheme, and Paulo Isidoro was already forgotten.
Next, a very easy match against New Zealand. The kiwis were more concerned in soliciting autographs than beating Brazil. Zico scored twice, Falcão once and Serginho, at last, score a goal. Fans and media became euphoric.

Then, Brazil would face the most traditional rival, Argentina. The Argentinians were the title holders, and most of the champions of 1978 were in Spain. Moreover, they had brought to Spain a young player who promised to shake the world of football, called Maradona. The Argentinians had already lost to Italy, but, for Brazilians, Argentina was the only rival which could prevent us from reaching the final.


The match was easier than anticipated. Zico scored 1 x 0, early in the first half. Brazil dominated the whole game, Serginho and Júnior scored 3 x 0. Argentina scored their at the last minute. Maradona was sent off for violent play.
Now, the entire world was euphoric with the Brazilian team. Who could stop us? The adversaries could mark Zico and Sócrates, but then Falcão and Éder would score. Cerezzo had a powerful long distance shot, and Júnior could appear by surprise at any time. The team had an impressive fitness shape. The coach, Telê, made it clear that Brazil should keep an offensive scheme.

On July 5th 1982, the Brazilian team entered Sarriá Stadium, in Barcelona, thinking they should fullfil a formality: win Italy. Actually, even if the match finished tied, Brazil would move ahead. The adversary in the semi-finals would be Poland, and his main player, Boniek, had been expulsed and wouldn't play the next match; the path to the final was paved.
The Italians had had three ties in the three matches of the first stage (against Poland, Cameroon and Peru), and only qualified to the next stage because they had scored two goals, one more than Cameroon. Right, they had been lucky to win Argentina, but a lightining never strikes twice the same place. Italy had hosted the Eurocup 1980, and finished fourth. Italy finished the qualifyings for the World Cup in second place, after Yoguslavia. It seemed very unlikely that they could beat Brazil.
Italy had scored only four goals in four matches (Brazil had scored 13). Italian striker was, supposedly, Paolo Rossi; Rossi had been involved in a lottery scandal, and spent two years off football fields before the cup; he had not scored any goal until the match against Brazil. Brazilians were not much concerned with Rossi.
Instead, Brazil were a bit worried about Gentile. He marked Maradona, and set a new record of having commited 23 fauls on the same player during a single match. Probably Gentile would try to do the same with Zico, but, why care? Brazil would still have Falcão, Sócrates, Éder,...

It didn't take long after the match started for reality to crash on Brazilian heads. At 5', the Brazilian defense gets confused, Paolo Rossi shoots from outside the area, and scores the first Italian goal. To save that shot would be difficult for any good goalkeeper, but it was impossible for Valdir Peres. Brazil had taken few goals along the Cup, but truth is that the adversaries had not shot many times; Brazil was so proud of their offensive power, they would realize (too late) that a good goalkeeper is fundamental.
Seven minutes later, Zico passes to Sócrates, who scores; things seemed to be going back to normality.

However, at 25', the ball is crossed into the area. Valdir Peres was not specialist in high balls, either. Paolo Rossi doesn't even have to jump to head the ball into the goal and put Italy ahead again. Until the end of first half, Brazilians had enough time to realize that the match was very far from being easy; rumours go that Cerezzo and Leandro had nervous breakdown during the time out.
The game continued tough in the second half. The Italians had an exceptional defensive scheme; possibly, a wild Serginho would be more efficient now than a tamed one. Besides, the Italians were very swift in counter attacks, and any shoot seemed dangerous for Valdir Peres.
Then, at 23', when despair was already building, the relief: Falcão kicks the ball like a cannon and beats Italian goalkeeper Dino Zoff. The usually elegant Falcão celebrated the goal like a crazy.

Now, what was the best thing to do? The match was tied, the time was short. A draw was good enough for Brazil. Now it was the Italians who should face despair.
Brazil had excellent players to reinforce the defense. Edinho, for example, was so good that he would be captain of the team in 1986; or Batista, who had stopped Maradona in the Argentina match. If they had substituted Serginho or Éder, the Italian's job would be much more difficult.
But, the Brazilian coach was Telê Santana. He did not substitute anyone, and he did not even tell anyone to retreat. The Brazilian team continued with the same plan: being offensive and win the match.
At 30', Paolo Rossi scored his third goal in the match.
Italy won by 3 x 2. Brazil returned home.
FIFA considered Italy 3 x 2 Brazil one of the classic games of all World Cups.

This was the Italian team that won Brazil: Zoff; Gentile, Scirea, Colovatti (Bergomi), Cabrini; Tardelli (Marini), Oriali, Antognoni, Graziani; Conti, Rossi.



It was a hell of a good team. It should not be so surprising that they would win any other team, including Brazil. Zoff was aged fourty, and was present when Italy needed. Cabrini, Tardelli, Antognoni, Graziani, Conti are all good individually, much more as a group. Paolo Rossi did what is expected from a striker: score goals when opportunities arise.

Italy won Poland by 2 x 0 in the semi-finals, two goals of Paolo Rossi.
Italy won Germany in the final by 3 x 1 (first goal by Rossi) and deservedly became the champion of the 1982 World Cup.




World Cup 1982 - More info
FIFA Archives of the 1982 World Cup.

After the match, Telê embraced each and every player, as they left the field. Telê took all responsibility for the defeat. He quit the National team after the 1982 Cup; the Brazilian Federation tried other coaches, but Telê, by popular request, returned to command the team in the 1986 Cup.
Along with Telê, some players who had planned to retire after the championship in 1982 decided to give another try in 1986: Zico, Falcão, Júnior, Sócrates and others.
If any player was stigmatized for the loss, this was Toninho Cerezzo. He was responsible for the first Rossi's goal; he broke down during the match. Thanks to his excellent physical conditions, he continued playing until early 1990s (he helped São Paulo FC become world champion in Tokyo), but he was not called to the 1986 team.

Brazilian fans and journalists recognize that this team was excellent. What happened to Brazil in 1982 was similar to what had happened to Holland in 1974 and Hungary in 1954: the best team had not won. However, much of what was written above was also written in the newspapers of the epoch: Brazil had underestimated Italy, a bit more of caution would be useful.

Some of the Italian players, including Zoff, Cabrini, Gentile, Antognoni and even Paolo Rossi had played in the match of the World Cup 1978, when Brazil won Italy by 2 x 1 in the match for third place.

There was a Brazilian present in the final match: the referee Arnaldo César Coelho. Arnaldo is probably the best ever Brazil's referee. Today he is a commentator in TV Globo. In 1986, another Brazilian referee was in the final match: Romualdo Arpi Filho.


 



 
Title: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 16, 2011, 08:38:05 AM
Real Madrid  v  Barcelona
Stadium: Estadio Santiago Bernabéu - 20:45
UEFA Champions League Semi-finals, 1st leg

Thread will be merged after game.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 23, 2011, 06:51:37 AM
Heads up folks-this game showing on FX in the states not FSC or FSP. They showing EPL during that time on those channels.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 23, 2011, 11:09:35 AM
Only halftime in the Real v Valencia game and Real up 4-0.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: soccerman on April 23, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
6-3 Real....KaKa breed ah man in de box and score, ah say like he back in form :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 23, 2011, 01:05:37 PM
Barca 1-0 Osasuna

Villa finally finds the back of the net.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 23, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
The commentator said that before today, Valencia never conceded more than 4 at home.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 23, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
Barca 1-0 Osasuna

Villa finally finds the back of the net.

Wait nah, after all the pre-game posts yuh make for de Copa final, yuh really never come back and say anyting after de game?  Not a peep?
Come nah man, your thoughts please.  What yuh side did wrong?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Brej on April 23, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
Barca 1-0 Osasuna

Villa finally finds the back of the net.

Wait nah, after all the pre-game posts yuh make for de Copa final, yuh really never come back and say anyting after de game?  Not a peep?
Come nah man, your thoughts please.  What yuh side did wrong?

we didnt want it enough plane an simple....
ize a barca fan from long time and we more or less was playing rel lackadaisical......
come out stronger in the second half but we needed more intensity....
game coulda really went anyway though..
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Toppa on April 23, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
 ::)

Didn't want enough...yeah...sure...what kind a yankee schupid talk is dah?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dumplingdinho on April 23, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
I am a Barca fan since 1992 and Real contain us plain and simple.  Pepe provided extra defensive cover and shut down ur midfield.  In the league game the strategy worked to an extent and in the cup final Real improved.  The ball is now in Barca court to see if they can counteract Jose's gameplan.  Pep and Dani Alves saying we could only play 1 way and my intrepretation is Pep is not a strategic fellah, he has one plan and he will live and die by it unlike Mourinho who switches up things.  It will be a close tie but as a Barca fan I am very worried after our team was clueless in the last game.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 26, 2011, 08:24:35 AM
Following training on Monday afternoon, the squad list of players who will be traveling to Madrid for Wednesday’s Champions League match was released and includes both Carles Puyol and Gaby Milito.

With the absence of Maxwell, who has not yet recovered from his groin strain, the coaching staff has announced that the 17 first team players available, including Puyol and Milito, will make up the squad for the first leg of the semi-finals of the Champions League at the Bernabeu. Joining the first team players are youngsters Thiago, Montoya and Sergi Roberto from the B team.

Not included in the squad because of injury are Abidal, Bojan, Adriano, and Maxwell. (3 phoqing LB's in one season of football....sigh)

The team trained late on Monday afternoon behind closed doors at Camp Nou. The session started with a technical talk lasting about thirty minutes in the dressing room. Carles Puyol and Gaby Milito worked normally with the group, which also included youth players Thiago, Rafa Alcántara, Carles Planas, Martin Montoya, Marc Muniesa and Benja Martinez. Andres Iniesta did individual specific work on the sidelines.

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Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2011, 08:31:24 AM
For all the talk about tactics, coaches, individual players, systems etc, I find most pundits and fans skipped over the 2 most important factors that will decide the CL tie; Mental Strength and Injuries.

People underestimate the level of concentration and mental effort that goes into one derby against hated rivals where every player from each team giving the maximum, much less for four clasicos on the bounce. It is extremely draining both mentally and physically, who ain't come out of there dead coming out badly wounded.

I think the team that is luckier with injuries and mentally stronger will come out victorious.

I like meh barca but I real cool on them for the last couple years. I eh going and front, I still toting about that Eto'o sale, and also want to know the explanation for marginalizing such a boss player like Yaya to push forward shitty Busquets into the side. Yaya was giving you a bigger physical presence in the middle, a better understanding of the game and better adaptability (Busquets cannot hold down Drogba like Yaya did filling in at CB in the CL semis a couple years ago). If Busquets playing CB and Jose start with Adebayor allyuh go see.

Also, the self indulgent vibes with them I find a lil unbecoming. The noises coming out is all about how "we played football the way it supposed to", and I took exception to Xavi saying in an interview that people will not remember that Inter side for having beat them last year but will remember Barca for the way they played the game; just another example of this kinda talk like it have only one way to play the game.

Different styles and interpretations of the sport clashing against each other in competition is one of the things that makes the game itself so beautiful.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 26, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
For all the talk about tactics, coaches, individual players, systems etc, I find most pundits and fans skipped over the 2 most important factors that will decide the CL tie; Mental Strength and Injuries.

People underestimate the level of concentration and mental effort that goes into one derby against hated rivals where every player from each team giving the maximum, much less for four clasicos on the bounce. It is extremely draining both mentally and physically, who ain't come out of there dead coming out badly wounded.

I think the team that is luckier with injuries and mentally stronger will come out victorious.

Barca has no luck with injuries at the moment. I don't think Puyol is ready to come back but it looks like he is seeing what is going on around him and realises the team needs him and he is willing to make the sacrifice. Well Abidal is out for the season, cyah do nothing bout dat. Millito and Maxwell are not 100% and Adriano is out for another 2-3 weeks.

With regards to the mental aspect of the game, a good portion of the players from both sides have played in WC finals, countless Clasicos and some have even won the CL.

It is the ones who have their papers that you need to watch i.e Pepe, Mascherano, Sergio Ramos, Alves. Dem is the ones that prone to a moment of sheer madness.

Important also to note:

Cards carry over from Matchday 1 of the group phase to the final.

Players one booking away from missing second leg...

Real Madrid: Albiol, Di María, S.Ramos, C.Ronaldo

Barcelona: none
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2011, 08:57:22 AM
For all the talk about tactics, coaches, individual players, systems etc, I find most pundits and fans skipped over the 2 most important factors that will decide the CL tie; Mental Strength and Injuries.

People underestimate the level of concentration and mental effort that goes into one derby against hated rivals where every player from each team giving the maximum, much less for four clasicos on the bounce. It is extremely draining both mentally and physically, who ain't come out of there dead coming out badly wounded.

I think the team that is luckier with injuries and mentally stronger will come out victorious.

Barca has no luck with injuries at the moment. I don't think Puyol is ready to come back but it looks like he is seeing what is going on around him and realises the team needs him and he is willing to make the sacrifice. Well Abidal is out for the season, cyah do nothing bout dat. Millito and Maxwell are not 100% and Adriano is out for another 2-3 weeks.

With regards to the mental aspect of the game, a good portion of the players from both sides have played in WC finals, countless Clasicos and some have even won the CL.

It is the ones who have their papers that you need to watch i.e Pepe, Mascherano, Sergio Ramos, Alves. Dem is the ones that prone to a moment of sheer madness.

Important also to note:

Cards carry over from Matchday 1 of the group phase to the final.

Players one booking away from missing second leg...

Real Madrid: Albiol, Di María, S.Ramos, C.Ronaldo

Barcelona: none

sorry i just edit my post before your reply. But yeah that cards thing is a big advantage for Barca. Some men might hadda walk on eggshells, I forget about that completely.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 26, 2011, 11:28:29 AM
For all the talk about tactics, coaches, individual players, systems etc, I find most pundits and fans skipped over the 2 most important factors that will decide the CL tie; Mental Strength and Injuries.

People underestimate the level of concentration and mental effort that goes into one derby against hated rivals where every player from each team giving the maximum, much less for four clasicos on the bounce. It is extremely draining both mentally and physically, who ain't come out of there dead coming out badly wounded.

I think the team that is luckier with injuries and mentally stronger will come out victorious.

I like meh barca but I real cool on them for the last couple years. I eh going and front, I still toting about that Eto'o sale, and also want to know the explanation for marginalizing such a boss player like Yaya to push forward shitty Busquets into the side. Yaya was giving you a bigger physical presence in the middle, a better understanding of the game and better adaptability (Busquets cannot hold down Drogba like Yaya did filling in at CB in the CL semis a couple years ago). If Busquets playing CB and Jose start with Adebayor allyuh go see.

Also, the self indulgent vibes with them I find a lil unbecoming. The noises coming out is all about how "we played football the way it supposed to", and I took exception to Xavi saying in an interview that people will not remember that Inter side for having beat them last year but will remember Barca for the way they played the game; just another example of this kinda talk like it have only one way to play the game.

Different styles and interpretations of the sport clashing against each other in competition is one of the things that makes the game itself so beautiful.

Good post.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 26, 2011, 12:04:51 PM
My interest in this game is to see what Jose and Pep do with their teams.
Jose showed his hand twice, first with Pepe as a holding Mid. and a very defensive team approach, based on a counter.
Then Pepe in front of Alonso pressing, with Ozil & eventually Ronaldo high up the pitch.
Not sure what else he has in his back pocket, but I will say IMHO opinion he has more options due to player personnel, to provide tactical variety, than Pep with Barca.

Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2011, 12:20:44 PM
My interest in this game is to see what Jose and Pep do with their teams.
Jose showed his hand twice, first with Pepe as a holding Mid. and a very defensive team approach, based on a counter.
Then Pepe in front of Alonso pressing, with Ozil & eventually Ronaldo high up the pitch.
Not sure what else he has in his back pocket, but I will say IMHO opinion he has more options due to player personnel, to provide tactical variety, than Pep with Barca.



I feel the next play is to defend deep and start Adebayor and play a setta long balls to him to focus on the weaknesses in the Barca defense.

Pep eh really have no big tactical changes he could offer. Barca is a team does play one way alone regardless and make you have to adapt to them. The most he could do is play Messi thru the middle and pull Villa out wide. I think any big changes from Pep would be an admission of weakness.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 26, 2011, 01:18:53 PM
Aye Dinho, whey yuh been boss??  Ah missing de "debate" in the politics thread.....yuh coming back over dey??.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 26, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Aye Dinho, whey yuh been boss??  Ah missing de "debate" in the politics thread.....yuh coming back over dey??.... ;D ;D

It have ah debate going on over dey?? I must be miss that, last time i check in all i see is a bunch of noisy rabble rousers.

you just nitpicking lol.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 26, 2011, 01:32:39 PM
Aye Dinho, whey yuh been boss??  Ah missing de "debate" in the politics thread.....yuh coming back over dey??.... ;D ;D

It have ah debate going on over dey?? I must be miss that, last time i check in all i see is a bunch of noisy rabble rousers.

you just nitpicking lol.

Chups..... come and "rabble" with we too nah   ;D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 26, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
My interest in this game is to see what Jose and Pep do with their teams.
Jose showed his hand twice, first with Pepe as a holding Mid. and a very defensive team approach, based on a counter.
Then Pepe in front of Alonso pressing, with Ozil & eventually Ronaldo high up the pitch.
Not sure what else he has in his back pocket, but I will say IMHO opinion he has more options due to player personnel, to provide tactical variety, than Pep with Barca.

Haha, like allyuh forget Kaka.  Jose has the advantage in terms of options.  Kaka, Higuain and Benzema got a decent workout vs Valencia.  Benzema is still a waste, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kaka and Ade on the pitch. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 26, 2011, 06:26:20 PM
I see Pep crack up LOL.. man start to cuss and ting

Should be a great 2 games.. hoping for many cards
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: saint27 on April 27, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
He's cracking up ! He's Cracking up! Pep is cracking up ...... haha inexpierenced coach just blessed with a talented team and messi
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 27, 2011, 06:57:21 AM
Actually he did not rant. I just saw the interview he was very calm and yes he did drop the "F" bomb twice, but he was calm throughout. He basically told the press that Mourinho owns them and manipulate them. He said "He (Mourinho)" is the master of the press room and I do not wish to compete in the same manner.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: saint27 on April 27, 2011, 07:20:05 AM
besides Mourinho no one has ever really threatend Pep's barca team ... and barca has been basically been untouchable .... pep probably realises its up to his players to win the match and there isnt much he can do .... mourinho on the other hand will be the one to win it for real ... should be 2 great games tho .......
Glory Glory Man Utd
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 07:28:37 AM
Barca is a wounded dog...if we don't beat them in this game it will be a steep uphill.  A complete makeshift backline and no iniesta is gift!!   

Real's Copa Del Rey win has everyone guessing but Barca is still the most feared team in the world.   

Ask Fergie and the Man U camp who they prefer to play in the final - my guess is they'd rather take their chances on Madrid.   
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: saint27 on April 27, 2011, 07:33:33 AM
No doubt they are the most feared in the world rite now , but Pep definitely fears mourinho..... United would definitely take real over barca provided barca has everyone fit
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2011, 07:42:07 AM
Click on the CC button for the subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/v/rrBpHA8QcgU

“JOSÉ, I GIVE YOU THE PRESS CONFERENCE’S CHAMPIONS TITLE. YOU ARE THE PHOQING BOSS, THE PHOQING MAN HERE. WE, AT 20.45, WILL TRY TO WIN [ON THE FIELD] BY PLAYING FOOTBALL“
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 07:53:49 AM
Uh-oh, Pep is upset.  He look like a man close to the edge. 
I hope Real doh feel they have this in the bag though.  Xavi Messi and Villa could do it in an instant.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 07:59:35 AM
dance puppets dance!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2011, 08:03:18 AM
Training at the Bernabeu.

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Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Toppa on April 27, 2011, 08:31:50 AM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 08:47:39 AM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups

That's his porno material.... :D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on April 27, 2011, 09:00:23 AM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups

 :heehee:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 09:35:49 AM
 :clown:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups

That's his porno material.... :D

Took the words right out meh mouth.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on April 27, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
Ah boy, looks like Jose getting under Pepe's skin...

Mourinho's mind games are legendary.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/912312/pep-guardiola-launches-foul-mouthed-jose-mourinho-rant?cc=5901

Pep talk turns air blue
April 26, 2011

   By ESPNsoccernet staff

Pep Guardiola has hit back at Jose Mourinho in a foul-mouthed rant ahead of the Champions League semi-final first leg between Real Madrid and Barcelona at the Bernabeu on Wednesday.

Pep Guardiola
GettyImagesPep Guardiola has issued a strong response to Jose Mourinho's barbs

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In his pre-match press conference on Tuesday, Mourinho had referred to Guardiola's response to the officials' decision to disallow Pedro's effort during the Copa del Rey final, claiming he had created a new category of coach by complaining about correct decisions.

"Up until now we've had two groups of coaches," Mourinho said. "[There's] a very small group who didn't talk about referees. Then there's a larger group, of which I'm included, of coaches that criticises referees when they make big mistakes.

"And with Pep's statements we've come to a third group, which is a one-person group, who criticises good decisions made by the referee. I've never seen this before."

Guardiola, at his press conference later in the day, issued a strong response.

"Tomorrow at 8.45, we will meet each other on the pitch," Guardiola said. "Off the pitch he has already won.

"In this room [press room], he's the f*****g chief, the f*****g man, the person who knows everything about the world and I don't want to compete with him at all. It's a type of game I'm not going to play because I don't know how.

"I won't justify my words. I congratulated Madrid for the cup that they won deservedly on the pitch and against a team that I represent and of which I feel very proud.

"Off the pitch, he has already won, as he has done all year. On the pitch, we'll see what happens."

He added: "If you think that his allegation that I always complain about the referees is true after you've all heard from me over the last three years, well, there's nothing I can do. Off the pitch, there's nothing we can do to fight that."

Guardiola does not believe the war of words between the coaches will have any influence on the players.

"Do you think the players will run more because I've spoken to Jose through the cameras? It's the Champions League semi-finals," he said. "The players won't be motivated by this - they know what I think about everything associated with this game."
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 27, 2011, 10:38:55 AM
It is at this point Jose should say, "Eh why so angry hoss?".

That would make the circle of the chain up complete.

Cyah believe Pep bite that so easy, like he ent learn from Rijkaard?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups

yuh doh like it? Do the following.

• close yuh browser
• shut down yuh machine
• pack machine up, inclusive of all power cords and peripheral devices
• drive to the nearest river
• hurl machine over the river bank
• go home and pelt a jock to memory
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 12:53:48 PM
yuh doh like it? Do the following.

• close yuh browser
• shut down yuh machine
• pack machine up, inclusive of all power cords and peripheral devices
• drive to the nearest river
• hurl machine over the river bank
• go home and pelt a jock to memory

Now now...that's not nice. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on April 27, 2011, 01:02:31 PM
Well its kick off and Fx is playing the ass can't get a steady feed. So upset right now just waiting on the replay on FSC with out that choppy crap. FX should burn in hell for this
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 01:28:08 PM
Both teams goin to ground too easily.  Barca players are clearly less calm.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Coop's on April 27, 2011, 01:32:31 PM
What happen to Barca,like they in real trouble today,i've never seen them defend and lose control of a game like that,Real have their number.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
Mascherano is the best player so far.

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Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 01:40:28 PM
Real look happy to play tight and counter, Barca players just look unsettled.
They complainin for every call.  

I now see somebody was pushin and shovin on the way to the tunnel.
I love it when a game gets heated.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 01:49:52 PM
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 27, 2011, 02:00:17 PM
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

I ent go lie nah.. me ent know what going and take place for the rest of this and the other game but Mourinho is ah boss manipulator and a borse at framing a match de way he want it to turn out..

what ah Machiavellian devious master planner.

EDIT: I believe Pepe just get a red card? My feed cut out


Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on April 27, 2011, 02:09:01 PM
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

I ent go lie nah.. me ent know what going and take place for the rest of this and the other game but Mourinho is ah boss manipulator and a borse at framing a match de way he want it to turn out..

what ah Machiavellian devious master planner.




wait so are u saying Barca down to ten men?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:09:37 PM
and the ref wins todays game. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 02:11:25 PM
No. Pinto was on the bench. Pepe get a red just now and Mourinho get sent to the stands. Another BS call for Barca.
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

I ent go lie nah.. me ent know what going and take place for the rest of this and the other game but Mourinho is ah boss manipulator and a borse at framing a match de way he want it to turn out..

what ah Machiavellian devious master planner.




wait so are u saying Barca down to ten men?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 27, 2011, 02:11:40 PM
Halftime fight in the tunnel. Pinto red card, Pique yellow.

I ent go lie nah.. me ent know what going and take place for the rest of this and the other game but Mourinho is ah boss manipulator and a borse at framing a match de way he want it to turn out..

what ah Machiavellian devious master planner.




wait so are u saying Barca down to ten men?


Nah Pinto is Barca sub keeper... he get a red in de tunnel..

but Pepe and then Mourinho in quick order now get a red for Real

Soft card... Alves make a meal... a yellow at best
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 02:14:06 PM
is there a semis that barca does not get a helping hand  >:(
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Time to break up Valdez let them put Busquets in goal. :)
Pepe need to understand he can't come in wild everytime with the calibre of actors in the Barca side.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
i hate pedro , little bitch
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 02:23:40 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 27, 2011, 02:24:29 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
stueps this game is only diving and fouls.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg

tell me about it.... it's getting real distasteful year after year...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: masterblaster on April 27, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
The officials spoilin this game.....Classico my a$$!!!! Barcelona need to play like men and stop the panzy football....shit man!!!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 02:30:14 PM
It was a beautiful pass by Afellay.  Good goal.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:32:27 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg

tell me about it.... it's getting real distasteful year after year...
d Arsenal game come to mind watching dis game
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Jumbie on April 27, 2011, 02:33:36 PM
Messi - WOW!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on April 27, 2011, 02:33:48 PM
Wow... Just... wow..
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 27, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
Get rid of the head coach, then the player that breaking up play and you get two free goal.  >:(
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 02:36:20 PM
Pretty much sums it up.

Get rid of the head coach, then the player that breaking up play and you get two free goal.  >:(
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
ref spoil this game & Barca playing like little girls dropping down and crying for any touch. D ref is barca 12th man
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 27, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
Pretty much sums it up.

Get rid of the head coach, then the player that breaking up play and you get two free goal.  >:(

nice goals by messi... but thais not how dey should get through
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 02:38:30 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg

tell me about it.... it's getting real distasteful year after year...
d Arsenal game come to mind watching dis game

I know... year after year is the same nonsense and it somehow favors Barca... like Blatter using dem to sell shirts....?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 02:39:31 PM
should have spent my time gaping at them white girls in their bikinis on the Potomac River.... steups...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 02:40:51 PM
barca is a sissy team, stueps , bunch of fakers
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Go figure de score with their advantage... UEFA refs at it again...



steups... fack up ah nicely poised leg
tell me about it.... it's getting real distasteful year after year...
d Arsenal game come to mind watching dis game
Didn't want to say it because it would probably be interpreted as biased, but the same thing crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on April 27, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
should have spent my time gaping at them white girls in their bikinis on the Potomac River.... steups...

dang man must a been nice
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on April 27, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
Barca have a bunch a panty man in their team!!! all thier players surround the ref after Alves get a small tackle, that was a warning or a yellow for the most. They dropping and acting like they get shot with every touch they get.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on April 27, 2011, 03:02:01 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!
What you getting at? :devil: Ay yuh going the Man.U vs Sounders pre season game?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: TRUwarrior on April 27, 2011, 03:03:29 PM
UEFA have banned all players and both managers from talking to the media right now. Unprecedented.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 03:04:41 PM
Rough outing for los Blancos.  

They were set up to draw this match and go for blood at Camp Nou....or sneak a goal against the tide, then bunker down at Camp Nou... The red card made those plans alot more difficult to acheive, and Messi took advantage of some tired legs with some sheer brilliance... I thought the red was harsh, but that might be bias... I also thought that with Barca being as wounded as they were with injuries that Madrid would be a bit more adventurous going foward....

Very curious to see how Mourinho intends to score 2wice at Camp Nou without conceding.  Funny thing is Madrid has the fire power to do it, but somehow it seems impossible- it's seems counter to the mindset when they play against Barca... How do they maintain possession, attack and create chances against Barca without conceding?  That's the million dollar question.  

Very steep hill to climb at Camp Nou.... until next week....
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 03:10:19 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!
What you getting at? :devil: Ay yuh going the Man.U vs Sounders pre season game?

Yuh very well know what ah mean  ;D

Ofcourse, as a season ticket holder, it's included in my package  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 03:12:43 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!

 :shameonyou: nah man , Barca over doing it , we doh drop and roll like fire on we cloths so. Neither have refs passing red card shameless so
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on April 27, 2011, 03:13:26 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!
What you getting at? :devil: Ay yuh going the Man.U vs Sounders pre season game?

Yuh very well know what ah mean  ;D

Ofcourse, as a season ticket holder, it's included in my package  :beermug:

Big Up!
I need a ticket, where can I get one to buy, and how much they going for?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on April 27, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
That is what ah say: "Leave the talking for on the field!"  Barca!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
Can't believe ah bunch ah Man U men in here complaining about Refs spoiling the game...oh the Irony!  ::)

Big Up!
What you getting at? :devil: Ay yuh going the Man.U vs Sounders pre season game?

Yuh very well know what ah mean  ;D

Ofcourse, as a season ticket holder, it's included in my package  :beermug:

Big Up!
I need a ticket, where can I get one to buy, and how much they going for?

I think they go on sale to the public June 1st. They normally go for around 50 bucks!

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on April 27, 2011, 03:16:15 PM
The red card decision could have gone either way according to the referee involved. I don't see Madrid having a great case against it. Studs up on the player's leg ,hmm, a red is not exactly an outrageous call. Scholes get send off against City for that and daiz brutish English football.

We score 2 very good goals and in good position for the final.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2011, 03:20:49 PM
CLASS!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/iNtIE2mU1HE
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
The red card decision could have gone either way according to the referee involved. I don't see Madrid having a great case against it. Studs up on the player's leg ,hmm, a red is not exactly an outrageous call. Scholes get send off against City for that and daiz brutish English football.

We score 2 very good goals and in good position for the final.

Pepe's challenge was nothing like Scholes's.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 03:50:42 PM
The red card decision could have gone either way according to the referee involved. I don't see Madrid having a great case against it. Studs up on the player's leg ,hmm, a red is not exactly an outrageous call. Scholes get send off against City for that and daiz brutish English football.

We score 2 very good goals and in good position for the final.

Disagree.  Scholes' tackle was a full fledged stamp that made full contact high up on the player.  Pepe went in dangerously, and made minimal contact (You couldn't tell of course by the way Mascherano/Alves? rolled on the ground like a sniper hit him)...

It was dangerous and the ref did what he did - end of story... but I think a yellow caution woulda been fair.  Crouchy and all get a bligh with his high blade in the Bernabeu, and only get a red after his 2nd offense...and even that was harsh in my opinion. 

I think Madrid could feel hard done by that one... It was a game changer
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 03:57:52 PM
Chivu, van Persie and now Pepe. Just now they will have enough to form a pretty good football team.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 03:59:09 PM
Chivu, van Persie and now Pepe. Just now they will have enough to form a pretty good football team.

lol

Think it was Motta though....
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
Might well be. But yuh know how Chivu love a red card! Honest mistake.

Chivu, van Persie and now Pepe. Just now they will have enough to form a pretty good football team.

lol

Think it was Motta though....
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
Might well be. But yuh know how Chivu love a red card!


He and Pepe both....

Funny thing is based on how he was reffin' the first half, I thought he'd be pretty lenient with cards.  He didn't flash them from early... He musta gotten instructions at half time to be a little more liberal with the cards to prevent the game from boiling over (which it already had to be honest)....but I think he took it too far. 

I don't envy the ref though...Other than Celtic- Rangers, this is probably the fiercest rivalry in Europe to be man in the middle...and even so I think most of the Celtic - Rangers violence takes place in off the field  between the fans. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 04:11:13 PM
Yeah, oh well. It is what it is.

I am very interested to see what Mourinho does in the 2nd leg. I think his "defensive" reputation is a little unfair.

Usually the Celtic-Rangers think is between the fans. I have a friend from Glasgow who says it isn't really an Old Firm game unless somebody gets stabbed. Of course, there were the 3 red cards in the Scottish Cup game last month.


He and Pepe both....

Funny thing is based on how he was reffin' the first half, I thought he'd be pretty lenient with cards.  He didn't flash them from early... He musta gotten instructions at half time to be a little more liberal with the cards to prevent the game from boiling over....but I think he took it too far. 

I don't envy the ref though...Other than Celtic- Rangers, this is probably the fiercest rivalry in Europe to be man in the middle...and even so I think most of the Celtic - Rangers violence takes place in off the field  between the fans.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 27, 2011, 04:17:34 PM
Might well be. But yuh know how Chivu love a red card!


He and Pepe both....

Funny thing is based on how he was reffin' the first half, I thought he'd be pretty lenient with cards.  He didn't flash them from early... He musta gotten instructions at half time to be a little more liberal with the cards to prevent the game from boiling over (which it already had to be honest)....but I think he took it too far. 

I don't envy the ref though...Other than Celtic- Rangers, this is probably the fiercest rivalry in Europe to be man in the middle...and even so I think most of the Celtic - Rangers violence takes place in off the field  between the fans. 

Yeh a straight red for that seemed out of sync with the officiating from the first half.
Also when he first blew I didn't sense any urgency like he was going to be harsh with his punishment, then after the Barca players rush him, it seemed like he changed his mind.
Barca's crybaby attitude was ugly.
Alves, Busquets and Pedro were really taking it too far.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on April 27, 2011, 04:21:28 PM
Might well be. But yuh know how Chivu love a red card!


He and Pepe both....

Funny thing is based on how he was reffin' the first half, I thought he'd be pretty lenient with cards.  He didn't flash them from early... He musta gotten instructions at half time to be a little more liberal with the cards to prevent the game from boiling over (which it already had to be honest)....but I think he took it too far. 

I don't envy the ref though...Other than Celtic- Rangers, this is probably the fiercest rivalry in Europe to be man in the middle...and even so I think most of the Celtic - Rangers violence takes place in off the field  between the fans. 

Yeh a straight red for that seemed out of sync with the officiating from the first half.
Also when he first blew I didn't sense any urgency like he was going to be harsh with his punishment, then after the Barca players rush him, it seemed like he changed his mind.
Barca's crybaby attitude was ugly.
Alves, Busquets and Pedro were really taking it too far.



I damn shame of dem 3 conduct. De motto is more dan a club....like is also an acting school.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on April 27, 2011, 04:34:24 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I damn shame of dem 3 conduct. De motto is more dan a club....like is also an acting school.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on April 27, 2011, 04:45:40 PM
Jose left fuming by defeat
Angry Real boss demands answers from officials

Real Madrid manager Jose Mourinho was left fuming after his side went down 2-0 to Barcelona in an ugly UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg.

The home side were reduced to 10 men in the 61st minute when Pepe was dismissed for a late challenge on Dani Alves, with replays suggesting the decision was harsh.

Mourinho was also sent to the stands for showing his displeasure to referee Wolfgang Stark and was left baffled by the decisions of the match official.

There were far too many acts of petulance and play-acting from both sides during the contest at Santiago Bernabeu, with Lionel Messi's two goals - the second of which was utterly sublime - deciding the contest.

But Mourinho simply wanted answers over Pepe's red card, which rules him out of the second leg at Camp Nou, while Sergio Ramos will also miss out after being booked for a foul on Messi.

Why
"Another miracle with 10 men wasn't possible," said an angry Mourinho, whose side were overwhelmed 5-0 on their previous visit to the Camp Nou this season

"Yes, I think we are eliminated. We will go to Camp Nou with everything and to get a result but I can't see it.

"We will be without Pepe and (Sergio) Ramos who didn't do anything and neither did I.

"I just want to know why? Why did Pepe get sent off? I just want someone to explain. Why did it happen?
"If I say what I think my career ends today.

"Sometimes I am a little bit disgusted to live in this world, but this is the world we live in.

"If we go there (Nou Camp) and score a goal, they will kill us again. We have no chance. They have to get to the final and that's that."
Scandals
"Congratulations to a fantastic football team," Mourinho added in bizarre post-match press conference.

."But congratulations for all they have as well, it must be difficult to get to get all this power. Where does this power come from?Mourinho highlighted Barca's semi-final victory over his former club Chelsea in 2009, the Inter Milan semi-final from last season and now "the scandal of the Bernabeu," suggesting unfair red cards were issued to teams playing the Catalan side.

"This thing happens in each semi-final," he said. "I am here just to ask this question and I hope to get the answer one day.

"I respect him (Barca coach Pep Guardiola) a great deal as a coach and a person... but I would like to see him win a Champions League without scandals."

.http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_6900988,00.html
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 27, 2011, 05:03:44 PM
Even Jose can see it , at least he not afraid to say it
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Steupssss....where was the outcry when Van Persie got a second yellow for absolutely nothing!!!!! Compare that to Pepe's and Ramos' and then tell us if it was not deserved.

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Organic on April 27, 2011, 05:24:08 PM
Steupssss....where was the outcry when Van Persie got a second yellow for absolutely nothing!!!!! Compare that to Pepe's and Ramos' and then tell us if it was not deserved.

Big Up!
sowa..come come we talking bout real side here keep HAHASENAL OUTTA THIS..LOL :P
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Arazi on April 27, 2011, 05:28:06 PM
Steupssss....where was the outcry when Van Persie got a second yellow for absolutely nothing!!!!! Compare that to Pepe's and Ramos' and then tell us if it was not deserved.

Big Up!

Mourinho alluded to that in his rant as well..
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
Steupssss....where was the outcry when Van Persie got a second yellow for absolutely nothing!!!!! Compare that to Pepe's and Ramos' and then tell us if it was not deserved.

Big Up!
sowa..come come we talking bout real side here keep HAHASENAL OUTTA THIS..LOL :P

Well yes...you come out from hiding just to say that?  :devil: And the only thing real about that Madrid team is in the name  :D

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 27, 2011, 06:31:53 PM
The red card decision could have gone either way according to the referee involved. I don't see Madrid having a great case against it. Studs up on the player's leg ,hmm, a red is not exactly an outrageous call. Scholes get send off against City for that and daiz brutish English football.

We score 2 very good goals and in good position for the final.

Disagree.  Scholes' tackle was a full fledged stamp that made full contact high up on the player.  Pepe went in dangerously, and made minimal contact (You couldn't tell of course by the way Mascherano/Alves? rolled on the ground like a sniper hit him)...

It was dangerous and the ref did what he did - end of story... but I think a yellow caution woulda been fair.  Crouchy and all get a bligh with his high blade in the Bernabeu, and only get a red after his 2nd offense...and even that was harsh in my opinion. 

I think Madrid could feel hard done by that one... It was a game changer

Yellow card at best, no violence or intent involved. Especially as the ref was allowing so many crazy tackle to "slide". It was not the first over the top of the ball tackle, and many were coming from Barca, however, Alves made a meal of it and the ref bought it. I like Barca a lot, but the crowding the ref thing was a bit to much, the play acting was also over the top.

Messi second goal was good, don't know about brilliant. Some poor defending and questionable GKing on that one.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: jai john on April 27, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
its sad how Peeps could comment on the cars passing around the savannah during a Beyonce performance !! Come on folks ...the real bacon is that barcelona with Leo messi is giving slice bread a good run ! How we manage to comment on all the sideshows and miss the main event is really amazing ...

Come on folks admit it ...barcelona plays football like no other team . They dictate the game regardless of the opposition. Even in defeat they have more possession ..... Barcelona has changed football as we knew it ...even Stoke City is trying to pass the ball now !!
lets hope that we see  the soca warriors doing the same thing ..
 
Folks know I am a yellow submarine fan in Spanish football  but Barcelona at the moment is killing every team in world football.
Now I will say again ..without Messi some may have a chance ...but once he is up for it ...we are all dead as supporters of other teams.
Give Barsa their pips ...they are a joy to watch ...win lose or draw ....I can hardly sit through some of the other spanish team games and but for a few, I have given up on the english ones ....but with Barsa you want to see what next.

They will soon be the Mohammed Ali of football with a following in support and a following wanting to be there when they do lose .
Just enjoy it folks while it lasts ..even Mohammed Ali could not go on forever.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: jai john on April 27, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
Anyone notice that whenever Ronaldo does something Messi comes and does it better ? those guys  really push each other ..kinda like magic and Bird . it aint over yet Ronaldo will have to come out blazing next time and Messi will know he has to match up ...
I go have to reach TGI Friday earlier next time ...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 27, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
its sad how Peeps could comment on the cars passing around the savannah during a Beyonce performance !! Come on folks ...the real bacon is that barcelona with Leo messi is giving slice bread a good run ! How we manage to comment on all the sideshows and miss the main event is really amazing ...

Come on folks admit it ...barcelona plays football like no other team . They dictate the game regardless of the opposition. Even in defeat they have more possession ..... Barcelona has changed football as we knew it ...even Stoke City is trying to pass the ball now !!
lets hope that we see  the soca warriors doing the same thing ..
 
Folks know I am a yellow submarine fan in Spanish football  but Barcelona at the moment is killing every team in world football.
Now I will say again ..without Messi some may have a chance ...but once he is up for it ...we are all dead as supporters of other teams.
Give Barsa their pips ...they are a joy to watch ...win lose or draw ....I can hardly sit through some of the other spanish team games and but for a few, I have given up on the english ones ....but with Barsa you want to see what next.

They will soon be the Mohammed Ali of football with a following in support and a following wanting to be there when they do lose .
Just enjoy it folks while it lasts ..even Mohammed Ali could not go on forever.

Dude pleeze! I think Barca has turned off a few fans and not gained many with their continuous playing acting in an effort to get a player carded or sent off, as well as acting like they should not be tackled by the opponent.  Oh yeah they didn't invent football or perfected it; Jesus does not weep when they play!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 27, 2011, 08:44:20 PM
people give up 2 hrs to see a display of the beautiful game. If I wanted to see a bunch of biatches dive and roll I would have gone to the Strip Club on Jello Nite... Again Barca is Favored by these UEFA ref's... plain and simple.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on April 27, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
its sad how Peeps could comment on the cars passing around the savannah during a Beyonce performance !! Come on folks ...the real bacon is that barcelona with Leo messi is giving slice bread a good run ! How we manage to comment on all the sideshows and miss the main event is really amazing ...

Come on folks admit it ...barcelona plays football like no other team . They dictate the game regardless of the opposition. Even in defeat they have more possession ..... Barcelona has changed football as we knew it ...even Stoke City is trying to pass the ball now !!
lets hope that we see  the soca warriors doing the same thing ..
 
Folks know I am a yellow submarine fan in Spanish football  but Barcelona at the moment is killing every team in world football.
Now I will say again ..without Messi some may have a chance ...but once he is up for it ...we are all dead as supporters of other teams.
Give Barsa their pips ...they are a joy to watch ...win lose or draw ....I can hardly sit through some of the other spanish team games and but for a few, I have given up on the english ones ....but with Barsa you want to see what next.

They will soon be the Mohammed Ali of football with a following in support and a following wanting to be there when they do lose .
Just enjoy it folks while it lasts ..even Mohammed Ali could not go on forever.

Dude pleeze! I think Barca has turned off a few fans and not gained many with their continuous playing acting in an effort to get a player carded or sent off, as well as acting like they should not be tackled by the opponent.  Oh yeah they didn't invent football or perfected it; Jesus does not weep when they play!

The diving was evident by both teams...so why just pick on the Barca players...plus you could see that they were the only team pushing to play the game and look for a goal, even before the red card.

I hate to see the play acting and that should stop, but doh say it was only the barca players were doing it!

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Small Change on April 27, 2011, 11:35:17 PM
Barca RUN things. Hand down. They have the best player in the world in MESSI. Not a player on this planet is anywhere close to this man's talent. NONE!!!!!!!!!!! He will kill YOU. He either dominates, of he may be out the game, marked out, and then suddenly, he would poison you. 52 goals in one season is SICK! He is difficult to stop. Ref decisions or not, no team plays the game like Barca. No team passes the ball and moves it like they do. NONE

Barca, right now, is the BLUEPRINT in football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2011, 12:44:33 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now.  Nobody used to say a peep....they uses to go on about "gamesmanship" and how great ronaldo is/was and 'bout "mighty mighty manu"......now that the prospect of their beloved manu side (and their kung fu panda defenders like vidic, rio and God forbid if fergie have to give johnny evans a runout ) facing a Barca side in Wembly next month becomes more imminent, the focus must be about that Barca have a side full of divers. Loud Facking Steups! Like allyuh tryin' and take a page outta Jose book.  As DeSoWa said, BOTH teams had players trowin' dey self on de grong.  Wild-man Pepe got just what he deserved and fuh those of you talkin' 'bout the contact being minimal, ah want to see allyuh kick at a ball like Alves did and follow through into the same kinda studs-up kick and come back and tell meh how it feel.....and comparing it to paul scholes' tackle makes no sense because the referee today wasn't thinkin' 'bout paul scholes and no FA Cup.  And for those that want to talk about the Barca players surrounding the referee on Pepe's foul, just rewind allyuh dvr and look see how the Real coaching staff was harrassing the 4th official for practically EVERY call.  I swear to God, at first I thought them men in them white adidas track suits was UEFA officials castigating one of their peers!
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 06:06:18 AM
I didn’t see the game but from all reports both teams made it difficult for the ref similar to the WC final and the Holland-Portugal game in 2006. If I read it wrong and barcelona were sole offenders than please correct me.

I think once teams are responsible for a game degenerating to this level they are taking a risk because once the ref confirms that making calls, talking and giving yellows not working he has to resort to a red.

At that point it is a lottery as to which player, which team and which foul would be used to make an example. Usually it is not the team perceived as being the better footballers because bigger, better, more successful teams are always more likely to get calls in their favour.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 06:17:08 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now. 


Just to be clear are you saying that United win their trophies because of Ronaldo diving?

Also if you making some equivalence between the teams are you saying that United has right backs, centre back and defensive midfielders fall all over the field or just attacking players? If you using Ronaldo diving as a representation of the whole team then you could criticize the whole Chelsea team for Drogba’s flops and play-acting in the not so long ago good old days.

I would be surprised if you could name a United game that had this much rancour and play acting. In fact United play Chelsea in a CL final and just had two legs against them last month without any of the systematic ref-baiting described in this game. It was nothing like this so clearly it is not as ingrained in the whole team has you are making out



 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
cyah believe men boasting bout barca being the best in the world when they get 2 blighs to reach the finals.  :-\

Hard luck Arsenal and Real. Allyuh get beaten by Uefa not Barca.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 06:45:15 AM
its sad how Peeps could comment on the cars passing around the savannah during a Beyonce performance !! Come on folks ...the real bacon is that barcelona with Leo messi is giving slice bread a good run ! How we manage to comment on all the sideshows and miss the main event is really amazing ...

Come on folks admit it ...barcelona plays football like no other team . They dictate the game regardless of the opposition. Even in defeat they have more possession ..... Barcelona has changed football as we knew it ...even Stoke City is trying to pass the ball now !!
lets hope that we see  the soca warriors doing the same thing ..
 
Folks know I am a yellow submarine fan in Spanish football  but Barcelona at the moment is killing every team in world football.
Now I will say again ..without Messi some may have a chance ...but once he is up for it ...we are all dead as supporters of other teams.
Give Barsa their pips ...they are a joy to watch ...win lose or draw ....I can hardly sit through some of the other spanish team games and but for a few, I have given up on the english ones ....but with Barsa you want to see what next.

They will soon be the Mohammed Ali of football with a following in support and a following wanting to be there when they do lose .
Just enjoy it folks while it lasts ..even Mohammed Ali could not go on forever.

Dude pleeze! I think Barca has turned off a few fans and not gained many with their continuous playing acting in an effort to get a player carded or sent off, as well as acting like they should not be tackled by the opponent.  Oh yeah they didn't invent football or perfected it; Jesus does not weep when they play!

The diving was evident by both teams...so why just pick on the Barca players...plus you could see that they were the only team pushing to play the game and look for a goal, even before the red card.

I hate to see the play acting and that should stop, but doh say it was only the barca players were doing it!

Big Up!

Barca did the same thing against Inter last year. It appears there are times they go into games with the intent to get players carded or sent off and it takes away from the quality of foootball we know they are capable of playing. They didn't do that shit in the cup final or the previous match when they won 5nil but it appears that is their MO when they realize that a team is going to be aggressive with them.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 06:52:36 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now.  Nobody used to say a peep....they uses to go on about "gamesmanship" and how great ronaldo is/was and 'bout "mighty mighty manu"......now that the prospect of their beloved manu side (and their kung fu panda defenders like vidic, rio and God forbid if fergie have to give johnny evans a runout ) facing a Barca side in Wembly next month becomes more imminent, the focus must be about that Barca have a side full of divers. Loud Facking Steups! Like allyuh tryin' and take a page outta Jose book.  As DeSoWa said, BOTH teams had players trowin' dey self on de grong.  Wild-man Pepe got just what he deserved and fuh those of you talkin' 'bout the contact being minimal, ah want to see allyuh kick at a ball like Alves did and follow through into the same kinda studs-up kick and come back and tell meh how it feel.....and comparing it to paul scholes' tackle makes no sense because the referee today wasn't thinkin' 'bout paul scholes and no FA Cup.  And for those that want to talk about the Barca players surrounding the referee on Pepe's foul, just rewind allyuh dvr and look see how the Real coaching staff was harrassing the 4th official for practically EVERY call.  I swear to God, at first I thought them men in them white adidas track suits was UEFA officials castigating one of their peers!
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

Chow you are my guy, but I will always say and believe that you lack zero objectivity when it comes to anything related to United. So as always I take your words when it comes to United with a grain of salt because of your admitted hatred for all things United.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 06:57:59 AM
Barca did the same thing against Inter last year. It appears there are times they go into games with the intent to get players carded or sent off and it takes away from the quality of foootball we know they are capable of playing. They didn't do that shit in the cup final or the previous match when they won 5nil but it appears that is their MO when they realize that a team is not going to be aggressive with them.

Several Spanish commentators, including Balague, have said that this is a calculated tactic by Barcelona. Players take turns harangueing the ref. They do it early in games to set the tone because they know refs will be lenient at the beginning of matches and they take turns so that no one player gets targeted by the ref for being a nuisance.

Now in, defence of Barcelona they probaly use this as a defence mechanism knowing that they are facing teams who plan to kick them and they are trying to level the playing field by getting the refs onside early.

I should be clear that I not trying to take a dig at Barcelona. I don’t mind that they beat Madrid even though I believe they would make a tougher final opponent for United or Schalke.

I was also happy when Iniesta buss Chelsea net even though Chelsea in 2009 woulda been much more beatable than Barcelona so in both cases I back Barcelona despite the fact that it was not in United’s best interest.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 07:28:27 AM
Barca did the same thing against Inter last year. It appears there are times they go into games with the intent to get players carded or sent off and it takes away from the quality of foootball we know they are capable of playing. They didn't do that shit in the cup final or the previous match when they won 5nil but it appears that is their MO when they realize that a team is not going to be aggressive with them.

Several Spanish commentators, including Balague, have said that this is a calculated tactic by Barcelona. Players take turns harangueing the ref. They do it early in games to set the tone because they know refs will be lenient at the beginning of matches and they take turns so that no one player gets targeted by the ref for being a nuisance.

Now in, defence of Barcelona they probaly use this as a defence mechanism knowing that they are facing teams who plan to kick them and they are trying to level the playing field by getting the refs onside early.

I should be clear that I not trying to take a dig at Barcelona. I don’t mind that they beat Madrid even though I believe they would make a tougher final opponent for United or Schalke.

I was also happy when Iniesta buss Chelsea net even though Chelsea in 2009 woulda been much more beatable than Barcelona so in both cases I back Barcelona despite the fact that it was not in United’s best interest.


Barca has played some nice ball over the years and I actually use to like them, but they have done things to take away from that. The turning on the sprinklers after Inter beat them, running Etto out of town and the blatant playing acting/embelleshing. It doesn't get any worse when you see Puyol doing it. When they stick to playing football it is very enjoyable to watch and Messi is just special. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 28, 2011, 07:32:19 AM
I knew this clasico wouldve been a tense affair but at times this whole game was descending into farce.

I felt the Pepe straight red card was harsh, it looked like a yellow card tackle to me and the Barca players swarming and haranguing the ref for the card is not a good look on football. But at the same time, I believe yuh make yuh own luck and only one team came out with the intent to play football yesterday.

I understand that yuh can't outball Barca, and the best tactic is to stifle them in midfield and hit them on the break. But when yuh on yuh home field in the first leg taking momentum into a fixture, i expect at the very minimum a team should show some measure of attacking impetus; this didnt happen from Real.

I eh like Jose conduct after the game but as always is just the same calculated ploy running like a script. He could circle de wagon now and say the refs thiefing for Barca etc etc and give his players the "us against the world" mantra. What this does is put the refs for the return leg on eggshells when they want to call anything against Real. Any little advantage counts but the act getting a lil old now.

But at the same time Jose have a point though. We have to admit that Barca get some preferential officiating over the last few years in the CL. From this Pepe red card to the one on Van Persie.. Then Busquets faking and getting Motta sent off, and then the CL semifinal game where Drogba get drag down in the PK box 3 times and Pique hands the ball in the PK box. As of  now, I undecided whether this is a consequence of them being on the receiving end of more physical abuse because of the brand they play owing to a higher incidence of cars, whether is mere coincidence, or whether is really some larger agenda on the part of UEFA (and doh get tie up UEFA does have dey agenda and know how to execute it).

Regardless, yuh can't ignore that they had more than their fair share of luck with referees.

PS: Messi is a living legend, I will be talking to my grandkids about him when that time come.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 07:36:26 AM
Jose is just taking the pressure off his players as he's done time and again...and also he is taking the focus off of his own shortcomings as he does time and again.  He never puts his hand up and just says "I got it wrong. They were just better" It was the same when he was at Chelsea. Mind games and media folly...

When Rijkaard's Barcelona played him off the park on his own home turf, he referenced the season before when they beat Barca, instead of just congratulating his rivals...  Even when Barca played football from the heavens and hit 5 past Madrid at Camp Nou earlier this season, he talked about this being the biggest defeat in his career because his players just didn't show up.  

Hes a smart man and knows how to play all the angles.  Either shielding his players, or protecting his own ego even at the expense of his players.  Now it's about UNICEF, and UEFA, and Madrid has no shot at the final.  Best believe that Jose is going to do everything in his power to try and overturn the 2 goal deficit and he hasn't give up.  He just doesn't want to put his players under the pressure by coming out and saying it.  He's playing the "us against the world" underdog card to shield himself and his players from pressure.  He's just distracting people from the fact that Madrid played a poor game yesterday and Barca's antics and some controversial refereeing gave him the perfect alibi.  Madrid has more than enough quality in it's line up to do better...and they didn't.  

Madrid prides itself on entertaining football, and Mourinho is changing that...he is under a lot of pressure to win and he's trying to win in a way that contradicts the principles of the club...that puts him under more pressure, so when his methods fail he's going to deflect the blow.  He failed plain and simple.  By the run of play, Madrid was never in the game - before or after the red card.  Now his back is against the wall, and he wants to keep the pressure off himself and his players as they prepare to do what seems like the impossible.

I'm glad to see the public deromanticizing of Barcelona - They are a big team like any big team- The charm of no shirt sponsor...steupsss...., UNICEF, mes que un club my ass...They are a big bad wolf just like Madrid, Man U, Chelsea (these days), Milan, Inter etc... and they should be judged on the quality of their play, which at the moment is the best you will see in the game...thats all...forget the other storybook shite....They will get the calls on their day like big teams get the calls...

But all of this is just a distraction- there's a game to  be played next week and Madrid's muti-million line up needs to step up and play like one...not like a small side a in a David v. Goliath fixture.  




Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on April 28, 2011, 08:03:17 AM
its sad how Peeps could comment on the cars passing around the savannah during a Beyonce performance !! Come on folks ...the real bacon is that barcelona with Leo messi is giving slice bread a good run ! How we manage to comment on all the sideshows and miss the main event is really amazing ...

Come on folks admit it ...barcelona plays football like no other team . They dictate the game regardless of the opposition. Even in defeat they have more possession ..... Barcelona has changed football as we knew it ...even Stoke City is trying to pass the ball now !!
lets hope that we see  the soca warriors doing the same thing ..
 
Folks know I am a yellow submarine fan in Spanish football  but Barcelona at the moment is killing every team in world football.
Now I will say again ..without Messi some may have a chance ...but once he is up for it ...we are all dead as supporters of other teams.
Give Barsa their pips ...they are a joy to watch ...win lose or draw ....I can hardly sit through some of the other spanish team games and but for a few, I have given up on the english ones ....but with Barsa you want to see what next.

They will soon be the Mohammed Ali of football with a following in support and a following wanting to be there when they do lose .
Just enjoy it folks while it lasts ..even Mohammed Ali could not go on forever.

Well said Jai....though I must admit in de first half de simulating made me SERIOUSLY consider no longer watchin football....Barca playing fitball de way it should be played, de beautiful game...and dey deserve to effing win!!!

Oh, Pepe tackle deserve ah effing red card, and Ramos is ah consistently nasty/dirty player, but ah sure everybody already know dat:)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 08:25:06 AM
I'm glad to see the public deromanticizing of Barcelona - They are a big team like any big team- The charm of no shirt sponsor...steupsss...., UNICEF, mes que un club my ass...They are a big bad wolf just like Madrid, Man U, Chelsea (these days), Milan, Inter etc..They will get the calls on their day like big teams get the calls...But all of this is just a distraction- there's a game to  be played next week and Madrid's muti-million line up needs to steup up and play like one...not like a small side a in a David v. Goliath fixture.  

It does rankle me to hear UEFA talking about Manchester United and debt when all United's debt is not from football operations, the club has a positive balance sheet year after year.  Meanwhile everybody holding up Barcelona as the paragon of how a club should be run.

All the while Barcelona have hundreds of millions of operational debt despite the fact that they have a league structure where they do not have to share TV revenues.

Barca has played some nice ball over the years and I actually use to like them, but they have done things to take away from that. The turning on the sprinklers after Inter beat them, running Etto out of town and the blatant playing acting/embelleshing. It doesn't get any worse when you see Puyol doing it. When they stick to playing football it is very enjoyable to watch and Messi is just special. 

This where I different. There are no angels out there and I not letting the false differences stop the enjoyment of what are very talented players and teams as long as they playing good football. As a result I not making a case for demonizing these players or teams based on these small things because at the end of the day they are rare talents and they only do what the less talented players/teams doing too.

Maradona handball, Messi handball even spitting on people, Ronaldo and Drogba antics all acceptable to a degree because without them men football is a lot less fun to watch.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on April 28, 2011, 08:38:53 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now. 


Just to be clear are you saying that United win their trophies because of Ronaldo diving?

Also if you making some equivalence between the teams are you saying that United has right backs, centre back and defensive midfielders fall all over the field or just attacking players? If you using Ronaldo diving as a representation of the whole team then you could criticize the whole Chelsea team for Drogba’s flops and play-acting in the not so long ago good old days.

I would be surprised if you could name a United game that had this much rancour and play acting. In fact United play Chelsea in a CL final and just had two legs against them last month without any of the systematic ref-baiting described in this game. It was nothing like this so clearly it is not as ingrained in the whole team has you are making out



 


agreed  :beermug:

Barca, right now, is the BLUEPRINT in football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dive and roll ? it seems so
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 08:45:49 AM
I'm glad to see the public deromanticizing of Barcelona - They are a big team like any big team- The charm of no shirt sponsor...steupsss...., UNICEF, mes que un club my ass...They are a big bad wolf just like Madrid, Man U, Chelsea (these days), Milan, Inter etc..They will get the calls on their day like big teams get the calls...But all of this is just a distraction- there's a game to  be played next week and Madrid's muti-million line up needs to steup up and play like one...not like a small side a in a David v. Goliath fixture.  

It does rankle me to hear UEFA talking about Manchester United and debt when all United's debt is not from football operations, the club has a positive balance sheet year after year.  Meanwhile everybody holding up Barcelona as the paragon of how a club should be run.

All the while Barcelona have hundreds of millions of operational debt despite the fact that they have a league structure where they do not have to share TV revenues.

Barca has played some nice ball over the years and I actually use to like them, but they have done things to take away from that. The turning on the sprinklers after Inter beat them, running Etto out of town and the blatant playing acting/embelleshing. It doesn't get any worse when you see Puyol doing it. When they stick to playing football it is very enjoyable to watch and Messi is just special. 

This where I different. There are no angels out there and I not letting the false differences stop the enjoyment of what are very talented players and teams as long as they playing good football. As a result I not making a case for demonizing these players or teams based on these small things because at the end of the day they are rare talents and they only do what the less talented players/teams doing too.

Maradona handball, Messi handball even spitting on people, Ronaldo and Drogba antics all acceptable to a degree because without them men football is a lot less fun to watch.

I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Trini on April 28, 2011, 09:03:42 AM
I is a man who support Barca type of football, I mean who doesn't.
But I also real like Mourinho. I couldnt give a Rats ass about Ronaldo (too arrogant) Pepe (too wild) Ramos (wild - but a very good footballer) Benzema (too overated and a knock down of Anelka) etc etc. If wasnt for Mourinho, I would not have liked them at all, even though my best players of all time wore that shirt.

But in yesterday's game Pepe cost his side big time. I watching him play for years now and I personally think he should be banned. Every single game I watch him play he plays dirty. If a man try to outmuscle him, watch and see how he reacts. A bonafide wild man with some talent who make it to the big time. If he dont sort himself out, he will have a short career.
But that tackle yesterday was absolute madness. He could have broken Alves shin in half. Anybody who say that tackle and sendiing off was controversial and harsh want a bullpistle. But I feel he also get send off because refs know what kinda player he is, plus the little smaller infractions of assness he carries about all game, plus his physical presence. That was a well deserved red card. End of story. So to hell with conspiracy theories about playing against Barca. People forgetting that Madrid plays an extremely physical game. Just watch yesterday how Marcelo was kicking man on the ground and thing. Totally uncalled for. I agree with Pique - they play on the verge of violence. No wonder they get so many dismissals. They have to learn to cool it.

Now onto Barca, I totally agree, they have some pantyman tendencies. I wont berate Alves, that was a crunching tackle. Maybe he did make a lill more of it, but most players do from time to time. But other players were sometimes too quick to go down and trying to con the ref. It seems as all of these Spanish/Latin countries have the same temperament.

At the end of the day, just like everybody else, I want to see foootball. I really dont care too much if Barca or Real win, as I am not from Madrid or Barcelona, but given the current circumstances where Man Utd is gonna be in the final, I would love to see a Barca - Man U repeat.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 28, 2011, 09:39:09 AM
I is a man who support Barca type of football, I mean who doesn't.
But I also real like Mourinho. I couldnt give a Rats ass about Ronaldo (too arrogant) Pepe (too wild) Ramos (wild - but a very good footballer) Benzema (too overated and a knock down of Anelka) etc etc. If wasnt for Mourinho, I would not have liked them at all, even though my best players of all time wore that shirt.

But in yesterday's game Pepe cost his side big time. I watching him play for years now and I personally think he should be banned. Every single game I watch him play he plays dirty. If a man try to outmuscle him, watch and see how he reacts. A bonafide wild man with some talent who make it to the big time. If he dont sort himself out, he will have a short career.
But that tackle yesterday was absolute madness. He could have broken Alves shin in half. Anybody who say that tackle and sendiing off was controversial and harsh want a bullpistle.

aye Trini... read this for another persepective

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=912767&root=uefachampionsleague&cc=5901

Messi and Mourinho mask Barca shame

As a master of the art of distraction, it must have been particularly galling for Jose Mourinho that a combination of his post-match meltdown and Lionel Messi's masterpiece provided Barcelona with a very convenient diversion in the toxic aftermath of Wednesday's Clasico. It was a night that shamed all parties concerned, of course, but particularly the Catalans.


Mourinho's wild-eyed, paranoid outburst served to fill the column inches and dominate the air waves. His conspiracy theory - drawing in UEFA, Barcelona and even UNICEF, perhaps only leaving shape-shifting lizards and the Illuminati free of blame - will surely attract sanctions more severe than Wednesday's night's instruction to sit in a metal cage just metres from his own bench following his sarcastic "well done" to the fourth official. He has already attracted the attention of Barcelona's legal department.

But if we can examine the match itself in isolation, and even taking into account that wonderful slaloming run and strike from Messi, strangely this felt like a match that saw Barcelona emerge with even less credit than Real, if searching for credit on such a night is only marginally less onerous than attempting to identify flashing moments of dignity in the career of Katie Price.

Given the dramatic denouement, some aspects of this clash have been obscured or misrepresented. Firstly, Real's tactics must be addressed. While criticism of Mourinho's outrageous claims in his press conference are of course justified, condescending interpretations of his approach to the game are more problematic.

There is certainly an argument that parking the bus and fielding three defensive midfielders in Xabi Alonso, Lassana Diarra and Pepe was a betrayal of Real's rich history of attacking football, an unforgiveable act of retreat from a club that has spent hundreds of millions to collect some of the best players in the world. But what did Real expect when they hired Jose Mourinho? After all, they must have seen this before.

Strangely enough, and going against type, the Portuguese did in fact attempt to release the shackles in the away game at Camp Nou this season and was punished with a 5-0 hammering. Diarra was introduced as a substitute in November as Mourinho acknowledged his mistake, but it was too late for his side to be spared an evisceration of epic proportions. Quite simply, Mourinho could not let that happen again, and though a 1-1 home draw in the league ceded any final chance of winning the Primera Division, Real looked far more durable and applied that conservative approach again to win the Copa del Rey. Quite rightly, they did so again on Wednesday.

Criticism for failing to start a conventional striker on Wednesday night was also wide of the mark. Barcelona did not have one either, with David Villa operating in wide positions and Messi, nominally the central forward, dropping deep with regularity. Instead, Real were set up to nullify Xavi and Messi and counter-attack, and though critics cry that they ceded 77% possession at home, that is fast becoming a meaningless statistic when it comes to Barcelona. It is akin to stating that Rory Delap will launch a long throw; Barcelona will dominate possession in any game they play.

It may be unpalatable for Madrid fans to digest, but in the context of the tie and the undoubted brilliance of Barcelona, playing for a 0-0 draw at home and then hoping to snatch an away goal in Catalunya was Real's best approach. Unpalatable, yes, a possible renunciation of Real's history, yes, but it was a legitimate tactic. As Mourinho himself said: "We had the intention to keep the game at 0-0, then bring on a striker, then a third phase with a No. 10 behind three forwards. But the ref didn't allow it".

Mourinho was of course referring to the decision to dismiss Pepe. Until that point, Real's restrictive approach had ensured the match was panning out as their coach had hoped, but shorn of their defender-cum-midfield-enforcer, Real were powerless to suppress Xavi and Messi, who stamped his mark on this game in unforgettable fashion, scoring his 51st and 52nd goals of the season. At 23, he is Barcelona's third all-time leading goalscorer, a phenomenon, a marvel.

But Pepe's key dismissal feeds into the second key debate: Barcelona's behaviour. Though the Portugal international's boot was high, it certainly felt as though his dismissal had as much to do with Dani Alves' exaggerated reaction and the hounding of the referee by Barcelona players as it did the challenge itself. A yellow card would have sufficed, but Alves ensured Real, and a Mourinho team, would yet again lose a player in a match against Barcelona. His brief departure on a stretcher only added to his dramatic performance.


In this, though, Alves was far from alone. Pedro and, unsurprisingly, Sergio Busquets, were guilty of the most rank and reprehensible play-acting seen in some time. Real are far from innocent on this front of course, but seeing players of the quality and ability of the two World Cup winners indulge in the dark arts was painful. Perhaps it is the knowledge that Barcelona do not need to stoop to such depths that made it hurt so much; their ability alone is enough to ensure their superiority, and certainly over two legs.

Either way it was an unedifying spectacle, particularly from a club that prides itself on doing things the right way. More than a club? Pedro, Alves and Busquets seemed intent on convincing the referee that Madrid's challenges were more than a tackle, more than an assault even.

Real were guilty to a lesser degree, but it was Barcelona who surrendered their hard-won moral high ground with their histrionics. We can expect some devilish behaviour from Real Madrid, managed by Mourinho and containing Pepe, but it is becoming an ever more evident part of Barca's approach as well. If Real were said to have abandoned their principles by adopting an oppressive yet legitimate defensive strategy, then what of Barcelona and their behaviour?

Few would cite Emmanuel Adebayor as a paragon of virtue or the yardstick by which modern footballers should be judged, but his post-match comments, while exaggerated, still ring true.

"Whenever you play against Barca, whenever you touch them they are on the floor crying like a baby," he said. "Everyone talks about Barcelona and their fair play but I think they are very far away from fair play. Whenever you make contact when going for a one-on-one or 50-50 ball they are on the floor crying, putting their hand up near their face. Their manager, fans and the players on the bench are always crying. Barcelona is a fantastic club, has fantastic players, but they have to stop that."

On Thursday morning, Barcelona's carefully crafted, shiny image looks a little duller than usual.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 09:43:13 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 09:54:29 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

 :beermug: on that.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2011, 10:20:11 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 28, 2011, 10:28:18 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2011, 10:38:58 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?

Sorry i doh have no crystal ball, hence my saying it is to be seen.
i not disputing that Messi better than ronaldo, but ronaldo show his form in two leagues and bust in the WC. Messi show his form in one league and bust in WC too. So u judge.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 10:40:40 AM

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Messi lifts Barca's level of play, just as much if not more than Barca lifts Messi's level of play.  

The guy is unbelievable.    
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 28, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
Football is littered with diving & acting. Barca, Real, ManU, Chelsea, the whole Italian league  ;D lets get serious. Marcello, Ronaldo, Demaria, Pepe not diving????
Real have 11 red cards this season. give me a break. ok the ref may have made a bad call on the straight red, but the tackle was high, dangerous and unnecessary (considering the part of the pitch it was made). Even Marcello could have easily got red for the deliberate stamp (68 min mark) on Pedro after the play in front of the goal.



Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: triniairman on April 28, 2011, 11:01:17 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 28, 2011, 11:12:18 AM
Pepe even got the ball before he hit Alves.
He shouldn't have led with his studs, if he led with the outside of his boot it wouldn't even be a foul.

On Messi in Spain vs Messi in England, "FOQ ENGLISH FOOTBALL"
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 11:13:40 AM
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

Messi looked good in the World Cup- his team was poor and he was unlucky on a few occasions.  

And he's playing football in a competitive league for the arguably the best club team in the world, and he is largely the reason why they are the best team in the world.  Ok, the team is built around him and caters to his style of football...so what? That's the job of a good coach/manager...  How does that take away from what he does?  Who else is doing what he does?  NO ONE!! That's the bottom line.  Yuh could construct whatever hypotheticals yuh want, the fact is  that he's playing at a level that no one in the game has ever played at, and may ever play at -even at Barca, and even in Spain...simple as that. Pretty much all the experts in the game would agree that he's the best on the planet, so who is allyuh?   Allyuh could real fight down a man jed... One setta talk aimed at nothing but fight down....
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
Why Disgruntled does feel people care to see all these schupid pictures? Steups

If yuh doh want to see pics, leave thread now.

Even Jose can see it , at least he not afraid to say it

All the ManUre men in this thread who taking the moral high ground over Barca, can burn in the fiery depths of hell usually reserved for men like Hitler.

The same ManU who game after game will get a freekick in the 89th min to tie the game, and then, as if that wasn't enough, the ref will give 7 mins of magical extra time to ensure that they score.

If is one argument I eh taking from ah ManU man, is bad referee decisions. They have been on the winning side of those for years.

Fact of the matter is, Pepe's tackle was rash, high, over the ball, and had real intent. That fool is an accident waiting to happen and revving up for a card since the 1st game. If a Chelsea player had hit Rooney a similar tackle, ManU fans would've been calling for him to be hung in the town's square.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/tumblr_lkc5aptBTI1qckkm1o1_400.gif)

The better argument would be, why would Real play with a central defender in the middle of two defensive midfielders while Kaka, Higuain and Benzema remain on the bench at home with so much at stake?

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Fulltime

Real Madrid 0-2 FC Barcelona
0-1 : Messi 76'
0-2 : Messi 87'

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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/6590365906257c22277d927f9c97b460-getty-fbl-eur-c1-real_madrid-barcelona-480x482.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/2011-04-27_PARTIDO_15.jpg)
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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/Messi-semis.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/v/XnB1GcYj4do

C. Ronaldo caught in the matrix.
http://www.youtube.com/v/DFe1jUMDwp8
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 28, 2011, 11:46:09 AM

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/tumblr_lkc5aptBTI1qckkm1o1_400.gif)


What this supposed to show Disgruntled?
What this shows is Alves already moving his leg out of the way before Pepe arrives, then Pepe MAYBE POSSIBLY grazing Alves' leg on the way down.  The contact wasn't nearly what Alves made it out to be.

Also what happens at the beginning of the gif is that Pepe makes contact with the ball first.
I love Barca but eff this shit.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Trini on April 28, 2011, 11:55:19 AM
it coulda hit his leg 100% or 0.1%, just look at that tackle Pepe went in dey with. If that had connected, that could be a career ending tackle.
Justified red card. Total wildness.
Dani Alves make a meal of it, but the intent of the tackle is ridiculous.
Studs up. height of tackle. Leading in sideways.
No place in the beautiful game for that shit.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 28, 2011, 12:10:49 PM

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/tumblr_lkc5aptBTI1qckkm1o1_400.gif)


What this supposed to show Disgruntled?
What this shows is Alves already moving his leg out of the way before Pepe arrives, then Pepe MAYBE POSSIBLY grazing Alves' leg on the way down.  The contact wasn't nearly what Alves made it out to be.

Also what happens at the beginning of the gif is that Pepe makes contact with the ball first.
I love Barca but eff this shit.

If anyone has played this game you would see that Pepe was reaching in to cut the ball and shield off Alves to retain possession, not just tackle the ball away. He wanted to win and keep the ball. Look at the manner in which his hips are twisting to keep Alves from getting to the ball. That is why his boots went up and over.It's normally a routine technique in winning the ball.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 28, 2011, 12:37:33 PM
One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

Yuh see these is the kinda discussions that I don't understand and doh bother with too much. The need to put some useless qualifier on one player to make the next one look good.

The man doing things that nobody in the history of football ever do. Is like saying that Jesus walk on water in the middle east but he never walk on the sea of Galilee but he never walk on the Atlantic ocean. This talk about which country, how much header, who he playing with, where he does play just miss the point that he is excelling above all.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on April 28, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
If anyone has played this game you would see that Pepe was reaching in to cut the ball and shield off Alves to retain possession, not just tackle the ball away. He wanted to win and keep the ball. Look at the manner in which his hips are twisting to keep Alves from getting to the ball. That is why his boots went up and over.It's normally a routine technique in winning the ball.

dais exactly what i seeing from this gif... setta facking marble pitchers up in here
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on April 28, 2011, 12:51:45 PM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

Me eh know wha wrong wid dem....If Messi was playing for ManU, he woulda never start infront of man like Carrick or Gibson.... ::)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

Me eh know wha wrong wid dem....If Messi was playing for ManU, he woulda never start infront of man like Carrick or Gibson.... ::)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

Messi in a system at Barca that plays to his strengths the same way when Ronaldo was at United he played in positions and system that played to his strengths same as now at Real. By the way Ronaldo has not set the world on fire for Portugal either. Messi during the World Cup played for a "manager" who had no system or the skills to assist Messi, the team with playing to his/their strengths. I think Argentina has a manager who seems to be doing a better job of playing a system that works to Messi's strengths. Argentina's talent may be better or as good as Barca's.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
Shining for your club and your country are two different things.  I know media, marketing and hype will try to tell us that the best players in the world are playing in certain leagues and clubs but that just is not true.  If you want to see most of the best players in the world you watch the World Cup.  Both Messi and CR failed measurably at the world cup and may probably fail again in 2014.  You can't have that kinda hype and be failing at the World Cup.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
Shining for your club and your country are two different things.  I know media, marketing and hype will try to tell us that the best players in the world are playing in certain leagues and clubs but that just is not true.  If you want to see most of the best players in the world you watch the World Cup.  Both Messi and CR failed measurably at the world cup and may probably fail again in 2014.  You can't have that kinda hype and be failing at the World Cup.

Disagree disagree disagre...

Although the World Cup is the most prestigious football trophy, it's a tournament of about 3-7 games that comes on the end of a long season, with teams preparing consistently together for about a month.  A poor World Cup could just be a matter of fatigue, lack of chemistry due to short prep time, or a short term drop in form (remember it's only a few games)...Club football is the true test of consistency and resiliance, and due to the length of a season, a player has more time to bring out his best.  In Trini we doh understand that because we doh have proper club football so as fans our lives revolve around World Cup.....Despite the prestige and national pride factor, in pure footballing terms, World Cup performance is based on form, club team performance is more a reflection of class.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 02:32:20 PM
Shining for your club and your country are two different things.  I know media, marketing and hype will try to tell us that the best players in the world are playing in certain leagues and clubs but that just is not true.  If you want to see most of the best players in the world you watch the World Cup.  Both Messi and CR failed measurably at the world cup and may probably fail again in 2014.  You can't have that kinda hype and be failing at the World Cup.

Disagree disagree disagre...

Although the World Cup is the most prestigious football trophy, it's a tournament of about 3-7 games that comes on the end of a long season, with teams preparing consistently together for about a month.  A poor World Cup could just be a matter of fatigue, lack of chemistry due to short prep time, or a short term drop in form (remember it's only a few games)...Club football is the true test of consistency and resiliance, and due to the length of a season, a player has more time to bring out his best.  In Trini we doh understand that because we doh have proper club football so as fans our lives revolve around World Cup.....Despite the prestige and national pride factor, in pure footballing terms, World Cup performance is based on form, club team performance is more a reflection of class.

Very strong arguments.  The only push back I would have is this.  Did the other greats like Pele and Dona go into the World Cup because they were inform?   Pele led Brazil to three.  The kinda toots Messi and CR put down in that world cup IMO wasn't a reflection of their form but a reflection of their true class when up against the best players in the world.  That is the signature Trophy for every great player so it ain't no small thing.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 28, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
Shining for your club and your country are two different things.  I know media, marketing and hype will try to tell us that the best players in the world are playing in certain leagues and clubs but that just is not true.  If you want to see most of the best players in the world you watch the World Cup.  Both Messi and CR failed measurably at the world cup and may probably fail again in 2014.  You can't have that kinda hype and be failing at the World Cup.

Disagree disagree disagre...

Although the World Cup is the most prestigious football trophy, it's a tournament of about 3-7 games that comes on the end of a long season, with teams preparing consistently together for about a month.  A poor World Cup could just be a matter of fatigue, lack of chemistry due to short prep time, or a short term drop in form (remember it's only a few games)...Club football is the true test of consistency and resiliance, and due to the length of a season, a player has more time to bring out his best.  In Trini we doh understand that because we doh have proper club football so as fans our lives revolve around World Cup.....Despite the prestige and national pride factor, in pure footballing terms, World Cup performance is based on form, club team performance is more a reflection of class.

Very strong arguments.  The only push back I would have is this.  Did the other greats like Pele and Dona go into the World Cup because they were inform?   Pele led Brazil to three.  The kinda toots Messi and CR put down in that world cup IMO wasn't a reflection of their form but a reflection of their true class when up against the best players in the world.  That is the signature Trophy for every great player so it ain't no small thing.

The WC now is different. The football season in Europe is longer and the time between the end of the various leagues and the start of the WC is too short. But the money men in Euro. don't want to hear any request about making the the season that runs in the WC short. So players can't recover from injuries in time for the tournament. Look what happened to Torres. Lucky thing Spain did not have to depend on him. In 1970 Pele and the Brazilian team were well rested and had plenty time to prepare for the Mex. tournament.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 03:02:57 PM
Very strong arguments.  The only push back I would have is this.  Did the other greats like Pele and Dona go into the World Cup because they were inform?   Pele led Brazil to three.  The kinda toots Messi and CR put down in that world cup IMO wasn't a reflection of their form but a reflection of their true class when up against the best players in the world.  That is the signature Trophy for every great player so it ain't no small thing.

I don't think Messi was toots.  I think he had a lot of bright moments that were a hair away from breathtaking.  People don't remember because he ended up with nothing on the score board...But Messi actually looked good in the WC- C. Ronaldo was a victim of Quieroz's ultra defensive system which didn't really allow him many touches on the ball.   Remember too that both of those guys played in WC 2006...C.Ronaldo was good...and Messi was Argentina's bright spot coming off the bench and always changing the game. 

Argentina's opponents were Nigeria, Korea, Greece and Germany.  Other than Germany, I'd say that their opposition was actually weaker than what Messi faces week in week out in club football (to your point that I bolded above...)

As far as Portugal they played Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast and Spain- Other than N. Korea a tough line up...so your point could hold there...though I doubt that that opposition was just too much for C Ronaldo to handle...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
So you and Deeks believe that the visible club leagues hold the best in the world and is a higher standard than the World Cup?  I think that assumption is to great to make concerning this sport in particular.  However, all your arguments are sound.  I mean you can't fault Pele for being born when he did.  Pele took has challenges and performed.  Equally fair argument you make is about player work load but I predict that a player will rise up, do all the league games and still win 3 World Cups.  Maybe it's Messi, I mean he's only 23.  You have to prove that you are the best of your time to be considered greatest of all time and I still believe the world cup is the measuring stick for that honor.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bourbon on April 28, 2011, 03:27:59 PM
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Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2011, 03:33:37 PM
So you and Deeks believe that the visible club leagues hold the best in the world and is a higher standard than the World Cup?  I think that assumption is to great to make concerning this sport in particular.  However, all your arguments are sound.  I mean you can't fault Pele for being born when he did.  Pele took has challenges and performed.  Equally fair argument you make is about player work load but I predict that a player will rise up, do all the league games and still win 3 World Cups.  Maybe it's Messi, I mean he's only 23.  You have to prove that you are the best of your time to be considered greatest of all time and I still believe the world cup is the measuring stick for that honor.

How about if your nat'l team just isn't that great?  Players like Pele were great but also had great World Cup nat'l teams... Portugal in WC 2010 is no Brazil 1970 - relatively speaking that is. 

How about players like Scillachi who blow up for a few games in a world cup, top score, then pop back down normal normal?  Is he better than Messi who has yet to blow up on the World Stage?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
So you and Deeks believe that the visible club leagues hold the best in the world and is a higher standard than the World Cup?  I think that assumption is to great to make concerning this sport in particular.  However, all your arguments are sound.  I mean you can't fault Pele for being born when he did.  Pele took has challenges and performed.  Equally fair argument you make is about player work load but I predict that a player will rise up, do all the league games and still win 3 World Cups.  Maybe it's Messi, I mean he's only 23.  You have to prove that you are the best of your time to be considered greatest of all time and I still believe the world cup is the measuring stick for that honor.

How about if your nat'l team just isn't that great?  Players like Pele were great but also had great World Cup nat'l teams... Portugal in WC 2010 is no Brazil 1970 - relatively speaking that is. 

How about players like Scillachi who blow up for a few games in a world cup, top score, then pop back down normal normal?  Is he better than Messi who has yet to blow up on the World Stage?

Yeah Scillachi ain't no Messi but that pinnacle causes players to respond differently I think.  Every player boils down but is not like Scilla didn't have a solid career after that.  I don't know....maybe some players are just great club players.  I guess there is such a term as a world class club player.  ;D   I'm just playing.   ;D  But I won't be surprised if come 2014 the lil Mexican from Man U make more noise than Messi at that tourney. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on April 28, 2011, 04:54:55 PM
Very strong arguments.  The only push back I would have is this.  Did the other greats like Pele and Dona go into the World Cup because they were inform?   Pele led Brazil to three.  The kinda toots Messi and CR put down in that world cup IMO wasn't a reflection of their form but a reflection of their true class when up against the best players in the world.  That is the signature Trophy for every great player so it ain't no small thing.

Correction:  Pele only played 2 games of the 1962 WC.  Garrincha led Brasil to that title.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2011, 05:11:57 PM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now. 


Just to be clear are you saying that United win their trophies because of Ronaldo diving?

Also if you making some equivalence between the teams are you saying that United has right backs, centre back and defensive midfielders fall all over the field or just attacking players? If you using Ronaldo diving as a representation of the whole team then you could criticize the whole Chelsea team for Drogba’s flops and play-acting in the not so long ago good old days.

I would be surprised if you could name a United game that had this much rancour and play acting. In fact United play Chelsea in a CL final and just had two legs against them last month without any of the systematic ref-baiting described in this game. It was nothing like this so clearly it is not as ingrained in the whole team has you are making out

the only thing I am saying is that manu fans are staunch hypocrites when it comes to COMPLAINING about any team having divers or even about any poor officiating.  That's it.  All that other stuff you throw in there is your own interpretation.  When I referenced "kung Fu Panda" I was simply talking about the potential your side has for those particular players (I forgot scholes) to commit rash acts of terrorism on an opponent, and nothing more.  Nothing systematic or tactical on the part of manu, even though I do think that a certain degree of physicality is a part of their game....being an English team.  Nor am I trying to compare any game that manu has played in to what is being overly made of yesterday's game.  Has cronaldo's tactics of flopping and diving helped manu win tropies?  Of course it has.  He used to get away with murder in the EPL and a point from a dive and penalty here and there (or two or three) sure added up and contributed to their successes but I am not saying it was the out and out main reason.   Now as far as Drogba is concerned, I really think something is wrong with him.  I think he is a drama Queen and seeks alot of attention (I saw him do something that convinced me) and more often than not he does make meals out of the contact he received....and it disgusts me. But Drogba never got away with it back then and he doesn't get away with it now, the way cronaldo used to.  the media rips him, the commentators rip him and the refs do not give him the benefit of the doubt most of the time.   Have YOU ever seen cronaldo receive a kung fu panda-style stamp in his chest and get a yellow card for it?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now.  Nobody used to say a peep....they uses to go on about "gamesmanship" and how great ronaldo is/was and 'bout "mighty mighty manu"......now that the prospect of their beloved manu side (and their kung fu panda defenders like vidic, rio and God forbid if fergie have to give johnny evans a runout ) facing a Barca side in Wembly next month becomes more imminent, the focus must be about that Barca have a side full of divers. Loud Facking Steups! Like allyuh tryin' and take a page outta Jose book.  As DeSoWa said, BOTH teams had players trowin' dey self on de grong.  Wild-man Pepe got just what he deserved and fuh those of you talkin' 'bout the contact being minimal, ah want to see allyuh kick at a ball like Alves did and follow through into the same kinda studs-up kick and come back and tell meh how it feel.....and comparing it to paul scholes' tackle makes no sense because the referee today wasn't thinkin' 'bout paul scholes and no FA Cup.  And for those that want to talk about the Barca players surrounding the referee on Pepe's foul, just rewind allyuh dvr and look see how the Real coaching staff was harrassing the 4th official for practically EVERY call.  I swear to God, at first I thought them men in them white adidas track suits was UEFA officials castigating one of their peers!
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

Chow you are my guy, but I will always say and believe that you lack zero objectivity when it comes to anything related to United. So as always I take your words when it comes to United with a grain of salt because of your admitted hatred for all things United.  :beermug:

I hate your side, yes, but pointing out that y'all fans tend to be way overly biased and lacking in objectivity doesn't then make me an inobjective observor, does it?  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: jai john on April 28, 2011, 06:40:46 PM
Shining for your club and your country are two different things.  I know media, marketing and hype will try to tell us that the best players in the world are playing in certain leagues and clubs but that just is not true.  If you want to see most of the best players in the world you watch the World Cup.  Both Messi and CR failed measurably at the world cup and may probably fail again in 2014.  You can't have that kinda hype and be failing at the World Cup.

Disagree disagree disagre...

Although the World Cup is the most prestigious football trophy, it's a tournament of about 3-7 games that comes on the end of a long season, with teams preparing consistently together for about a month.  A poor World Cup could just be a matter of fatigue, lack of chemistry due to short prep time, or a short term drop in form (remember it's only a few games)...Club football is the true test of consistency and resiliance, and due to the length of a season, a player has more time to bring out his best.  In Trini we doh understand that because we doh have proper club football so as fans our lives revolve around World Cup.....Despite the prestige and national pride factor, in pure footballing terms, World Cup performance is based on form, club team performance is more a reflection of class.

Very strong arguments.  The only push back I would have is this.  Did the other greats like Pele and Dona go into the World Cup because they were inform?   Pele led Brazil to three.  The kinda toots Messi and CR put down in that world cup IMO wasn't a reflection of their form but a reflection of their true class when up against the best players in the world.  That is the signature Trophy for every great player so it ain't no small thing.

Preacher ...are you doubting the class of Messi and CRonaldo ? ...like your Tv eh wukkin ??? Messi and Ronaldo played " toots" in the world Cup ??? Now ah sure your tv eh wukkin !! ...and it has not been for the last 3 years at least.

Well since your Tv giving problems let me tell you what you missed ...you know both dem fellas won World player of the year ... best everything of the year for Messi last year ...best everthing and more this year again for sure ....

Them two fellas just breaking each others records ...we should be thankful they came out during the same period because in any other period Ronaldo would have been the noise .... he is a most dangerous forward to face  ...

.Messi is the most dangerous footballer period . Neither of them has won a WC ...yet ...does that change the world's perception of them ???

get a Sony man ...dem ting doh go bad so quick ...and  if you see fellas arguing football anywhere ..before you  jump in  get de Tv fixed ..ok ?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2011, 06:45:45 PM
I is a man who support Barca type of football, I mean who doesn't.
But I also real like Mourinho. I couldnt give a Rats ass about Ronaldo (too arrogant) Pepe (too wild) Ramos (wild - but a very good footballer) Benzema (too overated and a knock down of Anelka) etc etc. If wasnt for Mourinho, I would not have liked them at all, even though my best players of all time wore that shirt.

But in yesterday's game Pepe cost his side big time. I watching him play for years now and I personally think he should be banned. Every single game I watch him play he plays dirty. If a man try to outmuscle him, watch and see how he reacts. A bonafide wild man with some talent who make it to the big time. If he dont sort himself out, he will have a short career.
But that tackle yesterday was absolute madness. He could have broken Alves shin in half. Anybody who say that tackle and sendiing off was controversial and harsh want a bullpistle. But I feel he also get send off because refs know what kinda player he is, plus the little smaller infractions of assness he carries about all game, plus his physical presence. That was a well deserved red card. End of story. So to hell with conspiracy theories about playing against Barca. People forgetting that Madrid plays an extremely physical game. Just watch yesterday how Marcelo was kicking man on the ground and thing. Totally uncalled for. I agree with Pique - they play on the verge of violence. No wonder they get so many dismissals. They have to learn to cool it.

Now onto Barca, I totally agree, they have some pantyman tendencies. I wont berate Alves, that was a crunching tackle. Maybe he did make a lill more of it, but most players do from time to time. But other players were sometimes too quick to go down and trying to con the ref. It seems as all of these Spanish/Latin countries have the same temperament.

At the end of the day, just like everybody else, I want to see foootball. I really dont care too much if Barca or Real win, as I am not from Madrid or Barcelona, but given the current circumstances where Man Utd is gonna be in the final, I would love to see a Barca - Man U repeat.


...and can somebody please explain to me what TF was adebayor carryin' on with when he decided to just start punch-slapping men in they face on at least two occasions?  He was more than lucky not to get at least two yellows and two stamp in he chest!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 28, 2011, 07:38:55 PM
So you and Deeks believe that the visible club leagues hold the best in the world and is a higher standard than the World Cup?  I think that assumption is to great to make concerning this sport in particular.  However, all your arguments are sound.  I mean you can't fault Pele for being born when he did.  Pele took has challenges and performed.  Equally fair argument you make is about player work load but I predict that a player will rise up, do all the league games and still win 3 World Cups.  Maybe it's Messi, I mean he's only 23.  You have to prove that you are the best of your time to be considered greatest of all time and I still believe the world cup is the measuring stick for that honor.

How about if your nat'l team just isn't that great?  Players like Pele were great but also had great World Cup nat'l teams... Portugal in WC 2010 is no Brazil 1970 - relatively speaking that is. 

How about players like Scillachi who blow up for a few games in a world cup, top score, then pop back down normal normal?  Is he better than Messi who has yet to blow up on the World Stage?

Yeah Scillachi ain't no Messi but that pinnacle causes players to respond differently I think.  Every player boils down but is not like Scilla didn't have a solid career after that.  I don't know....maybe some players are just great club players.  I guess there is such a term as a world class club player.  ;D   I'm just playing.   ;D  But I won't be surprised if come 2014 the lil Mexican from Man U make more noise than Messi at that tourney. 

I guess Scallachi, Salenko, Kempes, Lato, Rossi, Leonel Sanchez, Suker are some of the greatest players in World Football history. Crack logic! Give me a break!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 10:08:27 PM
So you and Deeks believe that the visible club leagues hold the best in the world and is a higher standard than the World Cup?  I think that assumption is to great to make concerning this sport in particular.  However, all your arguments are sound.  I mean you can't fault Pele for being born when he did.  Pele took has challenges and performed.  Equally fair argument you make is about player work load but I predict that a player will rise up, do all the league games and still win 3 World Cups.  Maybe it's Messi, I mean he's only 23.  You have to prove that you are the best of your time to be considered greatest of all time and I still believe the world cup is the measuring stick for that honor.

How about if your nat'l team just isn't that great?  Players like Pele were great but also had great World Cup nat'l teams... Portugal in WC 2010 is no Brazil 1970 - relatively speaking that is. 

How about players like Scillachi who blow up for a few games in a world cup, top score, then pop back down normal normal?  Is he better than Messi who has yet to blow up on the World Stage?

Yeah Scillachi ain't no Messi but that pinnacle causes players to respond differently I think.  Every player boils down but is not like Scilla didn't have a solid career after that.  I don't know....maybe some players are just great club players.  I guess there is such a term as a world class club player.  ;D   I'm just playing.   ;D  But I won't be surprised if come 2014 the lil Mexican from Man U make more noise than Messi at that tourney. 

I guess Scallachi, Salenko, Kempes, Lato, Rossi, Leonel Sanchez, Suker are some of the greatest players in World Football history. Crack logic! Give me a break!

Nobody implied anything that you getting worked up about.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 28, 2011, 10:33:24 PM
Jai my tv good. 50 goals in a season, at that level is no small feat.  They deserve all the awards etc etc.  Just to be clear.  My point is that club ball ain't the same as World Cup ball.  Not sure if you guys see a gif floating around with Dona and Messi making an almost identical run ending with a goal.  Now any run like that at any level is impressive.  The difference is that Dona's run was against England's national team and Messi's run was against a club team.  Say what allyuh want, it ain't the same run.

Peong fair enough on the stat. with Pele. They willfully break up the man.  So hear what now Peong.  In 2014, if Lionel Messi walk out of Brazil with the World Cup that will count in my opinion, as 2 World Cups.  No need for me to explain why.  ;D

I watched a program called "The GREATEST" a solid look at the best players EVEEER.  One of the experts said there was one player that appear to have no weaknesses.   :o I was shocked at that statement.  We all know his name and that why he's known as the greatest ever.

Edison Arantes do Nascimento
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2011, 11:12:28 PM
I guess Scallachi, Salenko, Kempes, Lato, Rossi, Leonel Sanchez, Suker are some of the greatest players in World Football history. Crack logic! Give me a break!

Throw in George Best, George Weah, George Ryan Giggs...

Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on April 29, 2011, 05:57:31 AM
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

It wasn’t Roma. Bayern got past Fiorentina last year on a very poorly officiated first leg. They should have had a player sent off and then had a dubious goal.

Mourinho is off in his criticism of past Barca wins. Both his wins had fortuitous ref calls in his favour. Inter was separated from Barca by n offside 3rd goal that should not have stood last year. With Porto he get past United on the back of a good goal that was wrongly disallowed for offside. These are just two examples but football today is such that you could take any team’s run to a final and pick apart instances where referee errors have favoured them.

Also something people forget about that Chelsea tie in 2009 was the fact that Chelsea got a lot of calls in that goal-less first leg and the ref sent of Abidal for mistaken identity in the second. The refs weren’t biased they were just incompetent.

All managers does grouse for perceived bias but Mourinho takes it too far with his repeated talk about conspiracies. He need to come up with a new trick like finding a way to attack a weakened Barcelona on your home ground when yuh have Kaka and Benzema on your bench.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kingdavid on April 29, 2011, 07:02:47 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

i couldnt agree more
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: elan on April 29, 2011, 07:21:53 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

i couldnt agree more

How about the technical staff at Barca can use Messi better than the Technical staff at Argentina. How about that? Yorke at Man United vs Yorke in T&T colors.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 29, 2011, 07:27:07 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

i couldnt agree more

How about the technical staff at Barca can use Messi better than the Technical staff at Argentina. How about that? Yorke at Man United vs Yorke in T&T colors.  :thumbsup:

Oh no no no elan you did not say that out loud, how dear you  ;D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on April 29, 2011, 08:16:07 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

i couldnt agree more
He's scored 11 goals in 11 Champions League Games, in big matches too. Like you feel La liga is second division football or something.   
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on April 29, 2011, 08:24:04 AM
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

It wasn’t Roma. Bayern got past Fiorentina last year on a very poorly officiated first leg. They should have had a player sent off and then had a dubious goal.

Mourinho is off in his criticism of past Barca wins. Both his wins had fortuitous ref calls in his favour. Inter was separated from Barca by n offside 3rd goal that should not have stood last year. With Porto he get past United on the back of a good goal that was wrongly disallowed for offside. These are just two examples but football today is such that you could take any team’s run to a final and pick apart instances where referee errors have favoured them.

Also something people forget about that Chelsea tie in 2009 was the fact that Chelsea got a lot of calls in that goal-less first leg and the ref sent of Abidal for mistaken identity in the second. The refs weren’t biased they were just incompetent.

All managers does grouse for perceived bias but Mourinho takes it too far with his repeated talk about conspiracies. He need to come up with a new trick like finding a way to attack a weakened Barcelona on your home ground when yuh have Kaka and Benzema on your bench.

This is a bit misleading. You looking to lump some marginal offside calls that could go either way in a game with some truly acrimonious calls that went in Barcelona's favor over the last few seasons.

Pepe's straight red, sending off Van Persie for what amounted to basically a technicality, sending off Motta and the officiating in the Chelsea game completely influenced the outcome of the ties. I ent feel like that compare to what you bringing up.

Like I said, I would be willing to concede that Barca on average, more yellow and red cards would accrue to Barca opposition because their style of play invites a more physical approach from teams playing against them. But when year after year you have bad officiating trending in their favor you must ask a question.

Everybody know UEFA and G8 is a mafia, and they don't like Mourinho and Chelsea. At the very least you could admit there is a correlation between who on UEFA shit list and who gets the rough end of officiating year after year.

Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on April 29, 2011, 10:32:40 AM
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  There was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

It wasn’t Roma. Bayern got past Fiorentina last year on a very poorly officiated first leg. They should have had a player sent off and then had a dubious goal.

Mourinho is off in his criticism of past Barca wins. Both his wins had fortuitous ref calls in his favour. Inter was separated from Barca by n offside 3rd goal that should not have stood last year. With Porto he get past United on the back of a good goal that was wrongly disallowed for offside. These are just two examples but football today is such that you could take any team’s run to a final and pick apart instances where referee errors have favoured them.

Also something people forget about that Chelsea tie in 2009 was the fact that Chelsea got a lot of calls in that goal-less first leg and the ref sent of Abidal for mistaken identity in the second. The refs weren’t biased they were just incompetent.

All managers does grouse for perceived bias but Mourinho takes it too far with his repeated talk about conspiracies. He need to come up with a new trick like finding a way to attack a weakened Barcelona on your home ground when yuh have Kaka and Benzema on your bench.

This is a bit misleading. You looking to lump some marginal offside calls that could go either way in a game with some truly acrimonious calls that went in Barcelona's favor over the last few seasons.

Pepe's straight red, sending off Van Persie for what amounted to basically a technicality, sending off Motta and the officiating in the Chelsea game completely influenced the outcome of the ties. I ent feel like that compare to what you bringing up.

Like I said, I would be willing to concede that Barca on average, more yellow and red cards would accrue to Barca opposition because their style of play invites a more physical approach from teams playing against them. But when year after year you have bad officiating trending in their favor you must ask a question.

Everybody know UEFA and G8 is a mafia, and they don't like Mourinho and Chelsea. At the very least you could admit there is a correlation between who on UEFA shit list and who gets the rough end of officiating year after year.



First to begin officiating has been crap for ever and more so in recent years. be it World Cup, UEFA, CONCACAF what ever. Real, ManU, Juventus have no right to complain they have benefited the most (historically). I do feel for officials because they have to make decisions in split seconds and have no slow motion frame by frame replay to judge from.
How you could say UEFA don't like Chelsea and Mourinho. Mourinho has bambozzled everyone with his media rubbish. Oh the Italian media hates me, UEFA hates me, the Spanish media hates me. he even imposed a media ban in 2007 when in England. What you can't see a trend here! He plays his media games and sometimes it comes back and bites him in the ass. With every team he pulls the team together with the use of the media through a message of "everyone hates us."
As for Chelsea what was their excuse in CL 2006, 2008 and in 2011.  Yet they complained when Del Horno was deservedly sent off after first Robben then Del Horno was cutting cane versus Messi. Mourinho has a history of using very physical tactics versus talented opposition & you could pay the price. Just look at Carvalho's first tackle against Messi on his very first touch of the game in 2005-06 (as an example).
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kingdavid on April 29, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
I agree, which is why I stated that when they stick to playing football they are enjoyable to watch and Messi is special. I can appreciate Barca's quality and Messi is the best player right now. I have actually grown to appreciate Messi; previously I felt Ronaldo may have been better but I feel Messi has surpass him. I feel like Ronaldo has been at this level for the pass few years and that Messi has just gotten better in those years since Ronaldo won world player.

I appreciate them both and never get into that one great and "the next one not good at all" comparison. I think as football fans we blessed to see two talents at such a high level, at such a young age, playing at the same time, in such a professional manner. Ronaldo's scoring exploits in Spain are phenomenal and record-breaking for Madrid. And then yuh Messi blowing even that away with an even better scoring record, plus assists. My only regret is that I don't have time to watch football these days because what these guys doing is very rare.

One thing to take into consideration is that CR has shown his brilliance in two separate leagues with difference styles of play. Its to be seen if Messi can do the same, or be the same without barca around him.

Sammy you serious? Which defender/defense in England can contain Messi?
Take Messi out of Barca, as a matter of fact take him out of spain, and lets see if he can adapt and play at this same level. Until then he is only the best palyer in Spain. I watched him the world cup and he was nothing special to watch. I gues if he was playing with Barcelona at the WC, he would have been magnificent Messi.

i couldnt agree more
He's scored 11 goals in 11 Champions League Games, in big matches too. Like you feel La liga is second division football or something.  
1 question for u

which is bigger la liga or world cup???

and no i dont feel is second division
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Preacher on April 29, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
King doh even go dey with these fellas, them Messi-marized   ::)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on April 29, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
Barcelona and Messi are God's gift to football, sorry for ruffling your feathers with accusations that UEFA blessed you abundantly.... :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 29, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
I think it is a shame with all the talent Real paid for they still are not able to go toe to toe with Barca. Barca is Hagler and Real is Alexis Alguello or Tommy Hearns!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on April 30, 2011, 08:19:42 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now.  Nobody used to say a peep....they uses to go on about "gamesmanship" and how great ronaldo is/was and 'bout "mighty mighty manu"......now that the prospect of their beloved manu side (and their kung fu panda defenders like vidic, rio and God forbid if fergie have to give johnny evans a runout ) facing a Barca side in Wembly next month becomes more imminent, the focus must be about that Barca have a side full of divers. Loud Facking Steups! Like allyuh tryin' and take a page outta Jose book.  As DeSoWa said, BOTH teams had players trowin' dey self on de grong.  Wild-man Pepe got just what he deserved and fuh those of you talkin' 'bout the contact being minimal, ah want to see allyuh kick at a ball like Alves did and follow through into the same kinda studs-up kick and come back and tell meh how it feel.....and comparing it to paul scholes' tackle makes no sense because the referee today wasn't thinkin' 'bout paul scholes and no FA Cup.  And for those that want to talk about the Barca players surrounding the referee on Pepe's foul, just rewind allyuh dvr and look see how the Real coaching staff was harrassing the 4th official for practically EVERY call.  I swear to God, at first I thought them men in them white adidas track suits was UEFA officials castigating one of their peers!
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  The re was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

Chow you are my guy, but I will always say and believe that you lack zero objectivity when it comes to anything related to United. So as always I take your words when it comes to United with a grain of salt because of your admitted hatred for all things United.  :beermug:

I hate your side, yes, but pointing out that y'all fans tend to be way overly biased and lacking in objectivity doesn't then make me an inobjective observor, does it?  :beermug:

My opinion regarding your lack of objectivity pertains to you always having to use some type of United reference whenever you are trying to make a point. How about using your players at Chelski or Barca, Real or any of the other top sides in Europe, becuase they have at some point in time done similar things just in different forms. Like I stated before is like you obessess with all things United including their fans. 
By the wa United fans are allowed to comment on diving and unsportsman like behaviors when it involves our team and any other team, the same way you have, even though you have players on your teams who do it also. Complain and steups all you want! :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 01, 2011, 07:24:25 AM
I find it amusingly ironic that is so much manu fans on here complainin' 'bout "diving" and complainin' so loud.  I arkse allyuh before to explain how come it is that when metronaldo was divin' all over de place fuh manu and winning penalty upon penalty and game after game and trophy upon trophy that manu fans wasn't hating diving so much as now.  Nobody used to say a peep....they uses to go on about "gamesmanship" and how great ronaldo is/was and 'bout "mighty mighty manu"......now that the prospect of their beloved manu side (and their kung fu panda defenders like vidic, rio and God forbid if fergie have to give johnny evans a runout ) facing a Barca side in Wembly next month becomes more imminent, the focus must be about that Barca have a side full of divers. Loud Facking Steups! Like allyuh tryin' and take a page outta Jose book.  As DeSoWa said, BOTH teams had players trowin' dey self on de grong.  Wild-man Pepe got just what he deserved and fuh those of you talkin' 'bout the contact being minimal, ah want to see allyuh kick at a ball like Alves did and follow through into the same kinda studs-up kick and come back and tell meh how it feel.....and comparing it to paul scholes' tackle makes no sense because the referee today wasn't thinkin' 'bout paul scholes and no FA Cup.  And for those that want to talk about the Barca players surrounding the referee on Pepe's foul, just rewind allyuh dvr and look see how the Real coaching staff was harrassing the 4th official for practically EVERY call.  I swear to God, at first I thought them men in them white adidas track suits was UEFA officials castigating one of their peers!
      Barca came to play, Real Madrid came to disrupt play.  Plain and simple.  diarra and adebayor alone was about 4 or 5 yellow cards that the referee never gave out and I see no argument with the one sergio ramos received.  Jose is trying to discredit Barcelona and Pep Guardiola by making their achievements be about officiating......Bullshit!  What jose failed to mention in his post-match tirade is that his Inter side had some generous officiating to help them along the way to last year's Trophy, too.  The offside goal against Roma? (methinks) and barcelona's disallowed goal are the first that come to mind.  The only thing he hasn't done is accuse the ref of consorting with the Barca coaching staff at the half.   
    Messi's second goal was sheer brilliance intertwined with basic, fundamental football.  The re was absolutely nothing that Casillas could have done to stop that goal.  Messi is just rediculous!

Chow you are my guy, but I will always say and believe that you lack zero objectivity when it comes to anything related to United. So as always I take your words when it comes to United with a grain of salt because of your admitted hatred for all things United.  :beermug:

I hate your side, yes, but pointing out that y'all fans tend to be way overly biased and lacking in objectivity doesn't then make me an inobjective observor, does it?  :beermug:

My opinion regarding your lack of objectivity pertains to you always having to use some type of United reference whenever you are trying to make a point. How about using your players at Chelski or Barca, Real or any of the other top sides in Europe, becuase they have at some point in time done similar things just in different forms. Like I stated before is like you obessess with all things United including their fans. 
By the wa United fans are allowed to comment on diving and unsportsman like behaviors when it involves our team and any other team, the same way you have, even though you have players on your teams who do it also. Complain and steups all you want! :beermug:

 Giggsy, stop cryin' victim and relax, please.  Throughout Europe, allyuh side, by general consensus, is the one side that gets away with and has benefitted most from the most setta ting when yuh bundle up de whole diving/poor officiating/rash tackles into a package deal.  So there actually IS no better team to use as an example, especially when y'all fans seem to do the most setta cryin' when allyuh see it happening for other teams. (yuh know how dey does say "tief doh like to see a nex' man wit bag")  Come on, give me a break.  Allyuh does party loud and hard with allyuh success, well take a lil' stick wit it too, nuh.  Especially where it's warranted.  I bet if by some sick twist of fate, Chelsea come back and take de title (that I conceded so long ago) from allyuh, small mag will go on into the next three seasons how de rent boys get all kindsa decisions that help we.....and yesterday's game would be the focal point of all the criticism and We Chelsea fans cyah complain if that be the case.  We get a BIG help yesterday.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2011, 01:41:29 PM
Real Madrid release video of Busquets calling Marcelo a monkey.


http://www.youtube.com/v/fFxudyTlnhE&feature=youtu.be

If this is true, this just increases the dislike I have for this player. Only player I can't tolerate on that Barca team. He is a nasty cheat and he eh even all that good to start with.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 02, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/abidal.jpg)

According to the official site, Barça trained on the Nou Camp pitch on Monday evening ahead of their Champions League semi final second leg against Real Madrid. Iniesta and Abidal trained normally and are in the squad for the game on Tuesday.

The media witnessed the first 15 minutes of the training session. The squad formed a big circle and give two huge rounds of well deserved applause to Eric Abidal, who underwent liver surgery just 46 days ago and has now been given the medical all clear.

Bojan also trained on the pitch, but apart from the rest of the group.

The other good news was that Iniesta has recovered from the calf strain that kept him out last week and at the weekend and is included in the squad for the game. In all, 16 first team squad players have been called up, along with B team players Oier, Bartra, Thiago and Sergi Roberto , who all trained with the first team this Monday. Barça’s normal reserve keeper Pinto, is suspended for the game.

The players and back room staff went off to the Hotel W once the session was over, where they will all stay the night. There will be a final training session at the Camp Nou at noon on Tuesday.

Full squad: Valdés, Oier, Abidal, Puyol, Alves, Piqué, Mascherano, Bartra, Fontàs, Busquets, Sergi Roberto, Thiago, Iniesta, Xavi, Keita, Pedro, Messi, Afellay, Villa and Jeffren.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on May 02, 2011, 02:04:09 PM
Real Madrid release video of Busquets calling Marcelo a monkey.


http://www.youtube.com/v/fFxudyTlnhE&feature=youtu.be

If this is true, this just increases the dislike I have for this player. Only player I can't tolerate on that Barca team. He is a nasty cheat and he eh even all that good to start with.
Cowardly punk like Busquets I not sure that he saying 'mono' though. I never liked him. Yaya is twice the player he is.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 02, 2011, 02:21:16 PM
Real Madrid release video of Busquets calling Marcelo a monkey.


http://www.youtube.com/v/fFxudyTlnhE&feature=youtu.be

If this is true, this just increases the dislike I have for this player. Only player I can't tolerate on that Barca team. He is a nasty cheat and he eh even all that good to start with.

What makes me think that its all Real BS is that we never heard any such claims from Marcello. Real are grasping at straws IMHO.
Yes Yaya is special, but only a foolish business man (club) would refuse the silly money being offered for players.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2011, 02:57:48 PM
Busquets is a very good player - starter for Barca and Spain....cyah argue that.  He's a bit of a cry baby but on the ball he's very talented and versatile. 

I also doubt he said anything like that to Marcelo - Just doesn't seem convincing enough....especially as Observer said, Marcelo himself didn't come out and say anything.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on May 02, 2011, 03:17:04 PM
Busquets is a very good player - starter for Barca and Spain....cyah argue that.  He's a bit of a cry baby but on the ball he's very talented and versatile. 

I also doubt he said anything like that to Marcelo - Just doesn't seem convincing enough....especially as Observer said, Marcelo himself didn't come out and say anything.

Very good is a bit of a stretch imo.. Busquets is a good player who reads the game well but he is made to look much better by the players around him, and with the high tempo hustle Barca brand on defense, he have plenty help compared to most defensive midfielders.

For Barca he is in no way shape or form better than Yaya was. For Spain he is not better than Senna.  To put it another way, take Busquets out of Barca and I think you'll find he will be an average to above average player.

He kinda get push through to reach where he reach, and I ent so sure bout the money argument because Yaya was done getting frozen out before other clubs were coming in for him..
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 02, 2011, 03:33:24 PM
Busquets is a very good player - starter for Barca and Spain....cyah argue that.  He's a bit of a cry baby but on the ball he's very talented and versatile. 

I also doubt he said anything like that to Marcelo - Just doesn't seem convincing enough....especially as Observer said, Marcelo himself didn't come out and say anything.

For Barca he is in no way shape or form better than Yaya was. For Spain he is not better than Senna.  To put it another way, take Busquets out of Barca and I think you'll find he will be an average to above average player.


I agree!!

Which brings me to this point, not meaning to hijack the thread. 

Javier Mascherano is the best acquisition Barca has made in a long while and is miles better than Busquets.

He may be a little quick to go to ground and pelt he blade at times, but his work rate, tackling ability and just general steel is better.

I don't think Busquets could've deputised in the middle of defense as well as Mascherano did and continues to do.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/579cbb0b7a741a639ce42eca6928349f-getty-fbl-eur-c1-real_madrid-barcelona-480x649.jpg)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 02, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
Yaya better than him no question....more mobile and overall more influential  Yaya is also 5 years older than him possibly at the peak of his career, and one of the best (if not the best) in the World in the position... But dat eh mean Busquets eh very good. 

I eh find that much separating Mascherano and Busquets.  Again Mascherano around a good bit longer than him so he have more experience... To Me JM has a high impact style of play that makes him visually impressive... but on the ball he lacks a lil polish, and his tackles lil rash sometimes too.... whereas I find Busquets to be quite intelligent with the ball at his feet, and a better reader of the game that doh have to rely on being overly physical.

At age 22 I have to say Busquets is a very good player playing with a high level of maturity for a man who now gettin' blood (2nd full starting season?)....  Apart from looking a lil flimsy and unassuming in his style of play, what I would say is that his game doesn't really seem like it has too much upward potential.  He eh showing any kind of particular brilliance that seems ready to explode...he just doing the simple things consistently. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Zeppo on May 03, 2011, 07:20:05 AM
Real Madrid accuse Busquets of racism

Real Madrid have released video footage appearing to show Barcelona midfielder Sergio Busquets calling Marcelo a "monkey".

The club released footage on their in-house TV channel with Busquets captioned as shouting 'mono, mono' at Marcelo during Barca's 2-0 Champions League victory at the Bernabeu last week.

Madrid, who had earlier released a video claiming to show Pepe made no contact with Dani Alves during the red-card incident, also provided video analysis of referee Frank De Bleeckere, who will take charge of Tuesday's semi-final second leg at Barcelona.

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Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Zeppo on May 03, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/fFxudyTlnhE
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on May 03, 2011, 07:38:01 AM
Giggsy, stop cryin' victim and relax, please.  Throughout Europe, allyuh side, by general consensus, is the one side that gets away with and has benefitted most from the most setta ting when yuh bundle up de whole diving/poor officiating/rash tackles into a package deal.  So there actually IS no better team to use as an example, especially when y'all fans seem to do the most setta cryin' when allyuh see it happening for other teams. (yuh know how dey does say "tief doh like to see a nex' man wit bag")  Come on, give me a break.  Allyuh does party loud and hard with allyuh success, well take a lil' stick wit it too, nuh.  Especially where it's warranted.  I bet if by some sick twist of fate, Chelsea come back and take de title (that I conceded so long ago) from allyuh, small mag will go on into the next three seasons how de rent boys get all kindsa decisions that help we.....and yesterday's game would be the focal point of all the criticism and We Chelsea fans cyah complain if that be the case.  We get a BIG help yesterday.

This consensus is still just your opinion. Why would United be getting more calls than Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Juventus or Bayern? I have said it before the way this works is every dubious call it is always reinforcament that United gets all the calls and it gets added to the lore. When somebody else gets them it is "yeah they get the call but United does get more calls so we ent go bother" and so nobody bothers to keep score.

Big clubs get more calls, big players get more calls, teams that dominate possession get more calls etc. The idea that United gets this disproportionate favouritism such that it is in a completely different category to Chelsea is a joke.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 03, 2011, 08:43:43 AM
Pics fromt this morning:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/btqfzg.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/dtfapc.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/Barcelona/thpxz.jpg)

Squad list:
Valdés, Oier
Abidal, Puyol, Alves, Piqué, Bartra, Fontàs
Mascherano, Busquets, Sergi Roberto, Thiago, Iniesta, Xavi, Keita
Pedro, Messi, Afellay, Villa y Jeffren

Most goals in the knock-out stages of the Champions League: Raul 18 - Shevchenko 18 - Messi 17
A UEFA official will make sure Mourinho doesn't communicate with his players or assistants during tonight's game. (I bet he could do it telepathically)

Players in danger of missing the final if booked:
Barcelona: none
Real Madrid: Albiol, Adebayor, Di María, C.Ronaldo
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2011, 10:49:02 AM
Busquets is a very good player - starter for Barca and Spain....cyah argue that.  He's a bit of a cry baby but on the ball he's very talented and versatile. 

I also doubt he said anything like that to Marcelo - Just doesn't seem convincing enough....especially as Observer said, Marcelo himself didn't come out and say anything.

Well I must admit I like him. He convinced me at WC 2010, as many say its the biggest stage and for me he was outstanding. Read the game well, covered well, was solid against Portugal and then Paraguay and most of all he shackled Ozil and then Schneider. once I saw that from a 22 year old I had to give him his props.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 03, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Not So Clásico
The fascinating, infuriating series between Real Madrid and F.C. Barcelona.
By Brian Phillips
Posted Tuesday, May 3, 2011, at 6:58 AM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2292798/pagenum/all/#p2


Real Madrid and F.C. Barcelona feature some of the best soccer players on earth, are the world's two richest clubs, embody drastically opposed philosophies of the game, have combined to win more than 140 trophies, and share a complex, antagonistic history that ties their rivalry inescapably to the Spanish Civil War. (Fascists kidnapped and executed Barcelona's club president in 1936; the Franco regime used Madrid as a symbol of Spanish nationalism.) Any game between these two clubs is a big deal. Four Clásicos in 18 days is, in the soccer universe, a quasar.

The clubs have now played three of these matches—the fourth, the second leg of their Champions League semi, comes on Tuesday—and so far they've been notable for two things: hysterical, operatic drama off the pitch, and brooding, bad-tempered, tedious soccer on it. On April 16, the teams drew 1-1 in a cagey game in La Liga; the goals were routine penalties plunked in by the last two world players of the year, Barcelona's Leo Messi and Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo. On April 20, Madrid beat Barcelona 1-0 in the final of the Copa del Rey—Madrid's first win over their Catalan rivals since 2008—on a header from Ronaldo during an extra-time period that, against the odds, managed to be kind of fun. A week later, in the first leg of the Champions League tie, Barcelona beat Madrid 2-0 behind two goals from Messi.

From a tactical standpoint, if you'll indulge me in a bit of faint praise, the games have been interesting. Starting with the first match, Real Madrid moved its Portuguese defender Pepe into the midfield, where he acted as a throttle on Xavi and on Barcelona's free-flowing passing game. Madrid, a haphazard squad rigged together from madly expensive superstar parts (Ronaldo, $130 million; Kaka, who's spent the series camped on the bench, $80 million), essentially conceded Barcelona's technical superiority and played a game of defensive attrition. This was very much the style favored by Real's sleek, sneering coach, Jose Mourinho, who has always preferred organization, and the possibility of frustrating his opponent, to flair. The kind way to describe Mourinho's approach is to say that Madrid held their formation and looked for a goal on the counter. The unkind way is to say that they looked like a bloodthirsty foosball table.

Either way, it worked, or it would have if Mourinho's tactics hadn't also called for an enthusiastic exploration of the line between clean, hard tackling and criminal battery. Madrid players have been sent off in four consecutive Clásicos; they've finished a man down in every match in the current series. Messi, Barcelona's tousle-headed striker, is without peer as a player, but Pepe's lumbering presence kept him just about bottled up in Wednesday's first half. Then the Portuguese defender got a red card—controversially, but as Gerard Pique pointed out later, Madrid was playing with fire—and Messi scored two goals.

Though the games have been intellectually intriguing, in every other way—emotionally, aesthetically—they've landed with a thunk. Two of the world's most beautiful teams, given an unprecedented opportunity to test each other's skill, have instead goaded the worst out of each other. Barcelona, which could play against elves and still be the finesse side, has reacted to Madrid's tough defending by diving (and writhing around, clutching their faces, thanking the academy, etc.) at the wispiest opportunity. Madrid has displayed an entirely different brand of cowardice by deciding, despite having one of the most awesome batteries of weaponry in the modern game, to power down the neutron core and play like clumsy underdogs. The matches have been tense and nasty. At one point on Wednesday, after Pepe was sent off, Messi dribbled through five Madrid defenders and skipped the ball past the goalkeeper to score. It was a breathtaking moment that felt weirdly unconnected to anything else that was happening, as if Messi were just dropping in from another plane of existence.

And in fact there is another plane in these matches, it's just that it isn't Messi's. It's the plane of hype, spin, and conspiracy-mongering—the joyful element of Madrid manager Jose Mourinho. Billowing over the entire series, like a dark cloud leased from Karl Rove, has been a cloak of lies, innuendoes, counter-lies, and counter-innuendoes, most of them released into the world by Real's manipulative coach.

Mourinho spent most of April casually needling Barcelona in the press and accusing referees of favoring Real's rival. Barcelona's Pep Guardiola is such a whiner, Mourinho vamped, that he's invented a whole new category of manager—one who complains not just about the referee's bad calls but about his good calls, too. Finally, Guardiola—usually a pretty chill dude—erupted during one of his own press conferences when the topic of Mourinho came up. "In this room"—i.e., when holding court in front of the media—"he's the f**king boss, the f**king man, the person who knows everything about the world and I don't want to compete with him at all. Off the pitch, he has already won. … On the pitch, we'll see what happens." The outburst was studied like Zapruder footage and widely declared a mind-games victory for Mourinho. He'd gotten under Pep's skin! The Barcelona players, however, gave their coach a standing ovation.

On the pitch, Barcelona won the next game 2-0; this was the Champions League semifinal, the one where Pepe was red-carded for aiming a high tackle at Dani Alves. After the sending-off, Mourinho promptly earned a red card himself for berating a sideline official. After the match, he unleashed a historically weird and paranoid rant for the media. Alluding to a secret plot to put Barcelona in the Champions League final, he declared that "it's disgusting to live in this world." When asked why such a conspiracy would favor Barcelona—after all, Madrid is just as rich and powerful—he murmured something about his rival club's sponsor. The shadowy force that advertises on Barcelona's shirts, by the way, is UNICEF.

Barcelona filed charges against Mourinho with UEFA, citing unsportsmanlike behavior. Madrid counterfiled countercharges against Barcelona, citing, presumably, the Bavarian Illuminati. UEFA sniffed and opened its own cases against the two clubs. The next day, Real Madrid's official website released a video "proving" that Pepe's red card had been unwarranted. RealMadrid.com extended the point by quoting various sporting luminaries who were disgusted by the call. It's not clear whether this marked the first time that Chad Ochocinco's Twitter feed had been entered as forensic evidence.

All this extra stuff, this cobweb of grudges and media ploys, has overshadowed the flesh-and-blood games to a degree that's hard to overstate. (The conspiracy-bewailing and countersuit-filing, remember, came shortly after Messi's great, instantly half-forgotten goal.) These Clásicos, in other words, have been emblematic of the increasingly ambient, fragmentary way in which the world consumes its favorite rivalry. The feud is waged half in headlines, so the games—endlessly recorded, endlessly talked about, endlessly replicated—never really have to end. The best players in the world are involved, but they don't usually get in the way.

That's not to say that these three games deserve to be remembered. At their best, Madrid and Barcelona are among soccer's most exciting clubs; Barcelona's passing could get a camel into heaven and Madrid's raw, careening power can be amazing to behold. It's just that everything else surrounding their rivalry has gotten blown out of all proportion to the soccer and turned it into a realm like politics, where there's always another story, no one can be trusted, and everyone is angry all the time. Of course the play suffers in that environment. The cliché about the Madrid-Barcelona rivalry is that it's about more than soccer. In the last few weeks, it's somehow managed to seem like it's about less.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on May 03, 2011, 11:23:18 AM
Boss read.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
Boss read.

Agreed  :applause:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on May 03, 2011, 01:32:26 PM
Links keep goin down.  Anybody have a good one?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 03, 2011, 01:33:26 PM
Links keep goin down.  Anybody have a good one?

Yeah, they real cracking down on links today.
This one wukkin so far..
http://www.tv6-1.tk/

Picture quality is poor, but I gorw up with B&W and rabbit ears  ;)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 01:34:11 PM
Game Done... congrats  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: sammy on May 03, 2011, 01:36:08 PM
david villa should've gotten a yellow for hitting the shot after the ref blew for offside  ;)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 03, 2011, 01:37:24 PM
Want to hear what the haters have to say now...Barca came out to play today...no drama, no antics...just play the game :-)

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: sammy on May 03, 2011, 01:41:46 PM
Want to hear what the haters have to say now...Barca came out to play today...no drama, no antics...just play the game :-)

Big Up!

barca real playing and woulda get props if this game was a one off, but today game is being played based on the first one.

Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 03, 2011, 01:45:31 PM
Madrid still in it lol  ;D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on May 03, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
Stupessss... backs vs forwards.... KaKa eh doing nada in this game..
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 03, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Madrid still in it lol  ;D

Yeah, they still have a 2nd half to play in  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 03, 2011, 01:50:36 PM
Want to hear what the haters have to say now...Barca came out to play today...no drama, no antics...just play the game :-)

Big Up!

because they dont need to any more. It was clear in the first leg that was there plan
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Bitter on May 03, 2011, 02:01:23 PM
Stupessss... backs vs forwards.... KaKa eh doing nada in this game..

I say you was joking oui. I now realize Kaka actually on the field.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
this five guys burger real lashing oui.... pepper sauce is borse....


1-1
ronaldo have pink tights....?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 02:12:05 PM
KaKa was on de field... Ghost Hunters sighted him... ???
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on May 03, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
this five guys burger real lashing oui.... pepper sauce is borse....


1-1
ronaldo have pink tights....?

ah think is fuchsia....
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 02:32:06 PM
this five guys burger real lashing oui.... pepper sauce is borse....


1-1
ronaldo have pink tights....?

ah think is fuchsia....

Thanks....

Is Greg Louganis part of Barca's coaching staff...?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 02:40:38 PM
congrats  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: FF on May 03, 2011, 02:43:11 PM
ah next tief game 

*poker face* 8)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 03, 2011, 02:47:20 PM
The better team went through...ah well....

Madrid played a decent 2nd 45 - makes you wonder what they coulda done at home if their approach was a little different.   

As long as they are at full strength, it will take a monster performance from United and a fair amount of luck/bad luck to prevent Barca from winning the CL.   

 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: trinikev on May 03, 2011, 02:55:11 PM
Boss read.

Agreed  :applause:

Yup. that article WIN  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 03, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
The better team went through...ah well....

Madrid played a decent 2nd 45 - makes you wonder what they coulda done at home if their approach was a little different.   

As long as they are at full strength, it will take an monster performance from United and a fair amount of luck/bad luck to prevent Barca from winning the CL.   

 
I feel Vidic and Ferdinand will REAL struggle to handle Barca forwards. They have to smother the midfield completely and hope their wingers can win the battle against Barca fullbacks. Unless of course Huntelaar destroy tomorrow and Schalke pull off the upset of the decade.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on May 03, 2011, 03:21:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/4V27SVQDjrk
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: jr sams on May 03, 2011, 03:24:50 PM
The better team went through...ah well....

Madrid played a decent 2nd 45 - makes you wonder what they coulda done at home if their approach was a little different.   

As long as they are at full strength, it will take an monster performance from United and a fair amount of luck/bad luck to prevent Barca from winning the CL.   

 
I feel Vidic and Ferdinand will REAL struggle to handle Barca forwards. They have to smother the midfield completely and hope their wingers can win the battle against Barca fullbacks. Unless of course Huntelaar destroy tomorrow and Schalke pull off the upset of the decade.
Yuh never know....cyar count yuh chikens before dey hatch, and Fergie dun say he making changes and bringing on fresh legs for the game tomorrow. The reds better doh play de arse in de next two games nah, udder wise is a trophy-less season (I eh counting Community Shield)
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: RehanaOmardeenfan on May 03, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
el clasico is always boring....Always.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 03, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
Unless of course Huntelaar destroy tomorrow and Schalke pull off the upset of the decade.

Stranger things have happened.... but that eh happening. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Peong on May 03, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
Barcelona's attack is like lightning!
Can't stop that.  Real Madrid are way short of Barca's quality.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 03, 2011, 04:06:03 PM
Unless of course Huntelaar destroy tomorrow and Schalke pull off the upset of the decade.

Stranger things have happened.... but that eh happening. 

Just like you could not see Arsenal beating Man U over the weekend huh?  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 03, 2011, 04:11:10 PM
Just like you could not see Arsenal beating Man U over the weekend huh?  :devil:

Big Up!

haha true - good call.  But in all fairnes we talkin' a different level of improbability here lol...
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on May 03, 2011, 04:11:56 PM
The better team went through...ah well....

Madrid played a decent 2nd 45 - makes you wonder what they coulda done at home if their approach was a little different.   

As long as they are at full strength, it will take an monster performance from United and a fair amount of luck/bad luck to prevent Barca from winning the CL.   

 
I feel Vidic and Ferdinand will REAL struggle to handle Barca forwards. They have to smother the midfield completely and hope their wingers can win the battle against Barca fullbacks.

Not impossible , we did it before. U never know. But the way Barca play acting these days hmmmm
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 03, 2011, 04:32:54 PM
Just like you could not see Arsenal beating Man U over the weekend huh?  :devil:

Big Up!

haha true - good call.  But in all fairnes we talkin' a different level of improbability here lol...

Yeah, but it would be a welcomed impossibility  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
The greatest come back of Champions League history was Deportive La Coruna versus Milan 2004. Dat game put water in my eye we.
Deportivo down 4-1 in the first leg come back and destroy Milan. 3 Goals in the first half and then Fran with a vollet ro say "take dat." Nesta had a nightmere, he even let a ball bounce over his head for a man to run on and score.

Moral! Nothing is impossible  ???
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: palos on May 03, 2011, 04:51:58 PM
The greatest come back of Champions League history was Deportive La Coruna versus Milan 2004. Dat game put water in my eye we.
Deportivo down 4-1 in the first leg come back and destroy Milan. 3 Goals in the first half and then Fran with a vollet ro say "take dat." Nesta had a nightmere, he even let a ball bounce over his head for a man to run on and score.

Moral! Nothing is impossible  ???

Wha bout Milan vs Liverpool in the 2005 CL final when Milan was up 3-0 at the half and lost on penalties?
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on May 03, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
That triangle passing thing that Barca does do real sweet.... de one whey does ketch ah man in it and have dem running like he crazy  :beermug:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 03, 2011, 08:03:13 PM
The greatest come back of Champions League history was Deportive La Coruna versus Milan 2004. Dat game put water in my eye we.
Deportivo down 4-1 in the first leg come back and destroy Milan. 3 Goals in the first half and then Fran with a vollet ro say "take dat." Nesta had a nightmere, he even let a ball bounce over his head for a man to run on and score.

Moral! Nothing is impossible  ???

Wha bout Milan vs Liverpool in the 2005 CL final when Milan was up 3-0 at the half and lost on penalties?

Yes I thought about that one, but my feeling was it was in the same game. I was thinking more about over two legs like the scenario we have tomorrow.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: richpy on May 03, 2011, 08:17:40 PM
That triangle passing thing that Barca does do real sweet.... de one whey does ketch ah man in it and have dem running like he crazy  :beermug:

Not just one man, DT, it's usually 2-3 men they bamboozle.
They consistently use triangles to create space, and they do it so successfully.
....for 90 mins, it is amazing.
 
 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: dinho on May 03, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
It is entirely doable..

An early goal from Schalke could throw the tie in the balance. Or a goal around the 70th minute to set up a crazy last 20'. I could see it now, a late 2nd goal to send Schalke through to extra time with all the momentum.

Is football but once the mental come into play anything could happen.
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 03, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
Giggsy, stop cryin' victim and relax, please.  Throughout Europe, allyuh side, by general consensus, is the one side that gets away with and has benefitted most from the most setta ting when yuh bundle up de whole diving/poor officiating/rash tackles into a package deal.  So there actually IS no better team to use as an example, especially when y'all fans seem to do the most setta cryin' when allyuh see it happening for other teams. (yuh know how dey does say "tief doh like to see a nex' man wit bag")  Come on, give me a break.  Allyuh does party loud and hard with allyuh success, well take a lil' stick wit it too, nuh.  Especially where it's warranted.  I bet if by some sick twist of fate, Chelsea come back and take de title (that I conceded so long ago) from allyuh, small mag will go on into the next three seasons how de rent boys get all kindsa decisions that help we.....and yesterday's game would be the focal point of all the criticism and We Chelsea fans cyah complain if that be the case.  We get a BIG help yesterday.

This consensus is still just your opinion. Why would United be getting more calls than Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Juventus or Bayern? I have said it before the way this works is every dubious call it is always reinforcament that United gets all the calls and it gets added to the lore. When somebody else gets them it is "yeah they get the call but United does get more calls so we ent go bother" and so nobody bothers to keep score.

Big clubs get more calls, big players get more calls, teams that dominate possession get more calls etc. The idea that United gets this disproportionate favouritism such that it is in a completely different category to Chelsea is a joke.

It eh just my opinion, boss.  Many people see it the same way, too but I will gladly claim it as just my opinion still.  But as I have asked before, and will continue to ask of manu fans, show me where any Chelsea player has gotten away with the type of mythical calls/referee's favors that manu never get away with, like: kick to man chest resulting in the yellow card to go with the chest pain, drop kick high in the air to man stomach (X 2), the kinds of berating of referees that rooney STILL does get away with and "fergie time" at the end of old trafford games......but, as you say, nobody's keeping score so if the calls are not disproportionately in favor of any one club, but all the big clubs get their fair share (and the liitle clubs get nothing) then my MAIN point remains the same: when manu fans get a call or two that they don't like, or when they watchin' another team, big or small, get a break or two, they should just shut to hell up and keep it moving and not cry so damned much. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 03, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
That triangle passing thing that Barca does do real sweet.... de one whey does ketch ah man in it and have dem running like he crazy  :beermug:

  Yuh mean, like how dey did piss metronaldo off lass week?  ;D
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 04, 2011, 07:56:46 AM
It is entirely doable..

An early goal from Schalke could throw the tie in the balance. Or a goal around the 70th minute to set up a crazy last 20'. I could see it now, a late 2nd goal to send Schalke through to extra time with all the momentum.

Is football but once the mental come into play anything could happen.

Yeah in football anything is possible, and with Man U resting some of the big boys they adding another degree of uncertainty into the mix... Still based on that 1st leg, I just doh see it. 

Plus I way prefer to see Man U v Barca in the final... so maybe part of my expectation is wishful. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on May 04, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
Just a side note...I don't think RM have lost a game to Barca this season when ending the game with 11 men...hmmmm (correct me if I am wrong)

Big Up!
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: JDB on May 06, 2011, 05:30:19 AM
It eh just my opinion, boss.  Many people see it the same way, too but I will gladly claim it as just my opinion still.  But as I have asked before, and will continue to ask of manu fans, show me where any Chelsea player has gotten away with the type of mythical calls/referee's favors that manu never get away with, like: kick to man chest resulting in the yellow card to go with the chest pain, drop kick high in the air to man stomach (X 2), the kinds of berating of referees that rooney STILL does get away with and "fergie time" at the end of old trafford games......but, as you say, nobody's keeping score so if the calls are not disproportionately in favor of any one club, but all the big clubs get their fair share (and the liitle clubs get nothing) then my MAIN point remains the same: when manu fans get a call or two that they don't like, or when they watchin' another team, big or small, get a break or two, they should just shut to hell up and keep it moving and not cry so damned much. 

This I could agree with wholeheartedly for all fans of big teams. None of these games is TnT - Haiti 1973 where the ref has a clear agenda. teh refs just get it wrong over and over again. Like kev said a couple times all the big teams get more calls than they lose so it don't make sense when their fans bitch.

Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: kicker on May 06, 2011, 06:58:18 AM
Just a side note...I don't think RM have lost a game to Barca this season when ending the game with 11 men...hmmmm (correct me if I am wrong)

Big Up!

In all fairness they were already down 4 or 5 nil when Ramos was sent off in the first encounter so that stat is kinda misleading. 
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: jai john on May 06, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
Just a side note...I don't think RM have lost a game to Barca this season when ending the game with 11 men...hmmmm (correct me if I am wrong)

Big Up!

come on ..dais like saying yuh lose de game ah draughts because you was playing with your left hand ! Barcelona is superior to Real madrid . .... . In fact at the moment Barcelona is superior to most if not every team on the planet. 

A year from now that may not be so ..they may sell Messi ...then a lot changes .... This is not to say that Real madrid is not a good team, they are a super team. When you are Ato Boldon though you would often wonder what life would have been like without Maurice Green ...

Real Madrid have one problem .....Barcelona !
 
Remember when Real were the galacticos and Barcelona were eating crumbs ? well the shoe is on the other foot now

 ....but I really cant remember a team dominating football games like barcelona does ..even when man U won the treble they did not dominate like barcelona is doing now.

It is as if they bring de ball ..every game !!..as soon as they lose it they get it back and keep it ...pinpoint passes with an accuracy in the 90's ....everone is seeing what they are doing .....it is not easy to so consistent though. They must have a robotics class every week to ensure compliance...it is not that they are doing good things and other teams are not but rather they are doing good things consistently ! ...and as a team. They also have the best player in the game ...that helps .... wont be long before the word MessY changes meaning  :devil:
Title: Re: Real Madrid v Barcelona (27-Apr-2011) Thread.
Post by: Observer on May 09, 2011, 04:52:31 AM
More licks for Real from Barca. Barca youth beat Real 3-1 in the Copa de Campeones yesterday. Hmmmm when will it end!
Title: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Toppa on October 25, 2014, 09:33:21 AM
No Gareth Bale for Madrid and, Luis Suarez makes his debut for Barca!

Woot, woot!!

Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: 100% Barataria on October 25, 2014, 10:54:59 AM
Geh de tissue ready toppa
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: soccerman on October 25, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
What's the score?
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Flex on October 25, 2014, 11:28:14 AM
3-1, 72nd minute...

Real incharge.

Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: soccerman on October 25, 2014, 11:54:51 AM
3-1, 72nd minute...

Real incharge.


Thanks, trying to find a live stream but pressure
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: asylumseeker on October 25, 2014, 11:55:18 AM
Left the TV on Premier League when I left home ... returned with Swansea and Leicester in progress ... despite reading Toppa's post earlier, clean forgot dis game. Although the goal crafted between Sigurdsson and Boney was well worth it, ah cyah believe I missed this game!!!

Iz only the subsequent lack of anything meaningful ... especially from Leicester ... that cause me to say .... Ey, de Clasico!!!! Steups!!!
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: palos on October 25, 2014, 12:36:35 PM
Left the TV on Premier League when I left home ... returned with Swansea and Leicester in progress ... despite reading Toppa's post earlier, clean forgot dis game. Although the goal crafted between Sigurdsson and Boney was well worth it, ah cyah believe I missed this game!!!

Iz only the subsequent lack of anything meaningful ... especially from Leicester ... that cause me to say .... Ey, de Clasico!!!! Steups!!!

Is not your fault.

BPL is a prime example of marketing at it's most influential

BPL come like Purina and La Liga is Filet Mignon.  But it won't matter.  Because marketing will have you TRULY BELIEVING that de Purina is de bess.

Then a BPL team bounce up a Barca, or Real, or Atletico....like Liverpool did de oddah day

And STILL.....peeps would rather believe the hype than the reality that unfold before dey eyes. 


The reality is....there are 4 tippy top tier teams in club football....3 from La Liga and 1 from Bundesliga

Then there's the 2nd tier.....Chelsea, Juventus, Dortmund, Man City, PSG

Then the rest.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Peong on October 25, 2014, 12:44:51 PM
Good game, Barca looked naive in defense.  Real countered over and over.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: palos on October 25, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
Good game, Barca looked naive in defense.  Real countered over and over.

Barca doesn't really have a proper defence.  They like Arsenal in that regard
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Toppa on October 25, 2014, 01:02:57 PM
Left the TV on Premier League when I left home ... returned with Swansea and Leicester in progress ... despite reading Toppa's post earlier, clean forgot dis game. Although the goal crafted between Sigurdsson and Boney was well worth it, ah cyah believe I missed this game!!!

Iz only the subsequent lack of anything meaningful ... especially from Leicester ... that cause me to say .... Ey, de Clasico!!!! Steups!!!

I doh know what to say nah...
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Toppa on October 25, 2014, 07:33:55 PM
For anyone *ahem* who may have missed the match.

http://www.footballorgin.com/2014/10/la-liga-2014-2015-el-clasico-bernabeu.html

Scroll down for the BeIn HD version.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: asylumseeker on October 25, 2014, 09:29:02 PM
Left the TV on Premier League when I left home ... returned with Swansea and Leicester in progress ... despite reading Toppa's post earlier, clean forgot dis game. Although the goal crafted between Sigurdsson and Boney was well worth it, ah cyah believe I missed this game!!!

Iz only the subsequent lack of anything meaningful ... especially from Leicester ... that cause me to say .... Ey, de Clasico!!!! Steups!!!

I doh know what to say nah...

 :)
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: asylumseeker on October 25, 2014, 09:32:36 PM
For anyone *ahem* who may have missed the match.

http://www.footballorgin.com/2014/10/la-liga-2014-2015-el-clasico-bernabeu.html

Scroll down for the BeIn HD version.

Doh worry! Doh feel come February 8  ;) I will need a reminder. 
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: asylumseeker on October 25, 2014, 10:05:18 PM
Left the TV on Premier League when I left home ... returned with Swansea and Leicester in progress ... despite reading Toppa's post earlier, clean forgot dis game. Although the goal crafted between Sigurdsson and Boney was well worth it, ah cyah believe I missed this game!!!

Iz only the subsequent lack of anything meaningful ... especially from Leicester ... that cause me to say .... Ey, de Clasico!!!! Steups!!!

Is not your fault.

BPL is a prime example of marketing at it's most influential

BPL come like Purina and La Liga is Filet Mignon.  But it won't matter.  Because marketing will have you TRULY BELIEVING that de Purina is de bess.

Then a BPL team bounce up a Barca, or Real, or Atletico....like Liverpool did de oddah day

And STILL.....peeps would rather believe the hype than the reality that unfold before dey eyes. 


The reality is....there are 4 tippy top tier teams in club football....3 from La Liga and 1 from Bundesliga

Then there's the 2nd tier.....Chelsea, Juventus, Dortmund, Man City, PSG

Then the rest.

Amen. Gospel well-received! As ah faithful disciple of continental football, ah well irritated with backsliding irreverently at the altar of Swansea.

Confession: wha also ketch meh was ... having seen Swansea last week with some intricate passing (albeit v. Stoke) ... ah wanted to see whether they could be consistent in delivery. Ah blaming Wilfried Boney and de Korean middie Sung-Yueng Ki ... and de fact that they were poised to sit between de Gunners, 'Pool, and Man Utd.

Worse yet, Atleti playing Getafe today and with our women playing, ah likely to lose out on that in real time too!
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Bakes on October 26, 2014, 12:01:26 AM
Is not your fault.

BPL is a prime example of marketing at it's most influential

BPL come like Purina and La Liga is Filet Mignon.  But it won't matter.  Because marketing will have you TRULY BELIEVING that de Purina is de bess.

Then a BPL team bounce up a Barca, or Real, or Atletico....like Liverpool did de oddah day

And STILL.....peeps would rather believe the hype than the reality that unfold before dey eyes. 


The reality is....there are 4 tippy top tier teams in club football....3 from La Liga and 1 from Bundesliga

Then there's the 2nd tier.....Chelsea, Juventus, Dortmund, Man City, PSG

Then the rest.

The logic in this is so laughably faulty...
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Peong on October 26, 2014, 05:29:38 PM
Who is the three from La Liga?  Real, Barca and Valencia?
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: 100% Barataria on October 26, 2014, 05:42:55 PM
Athletico
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Peong on October 26, 2014, 07:32:57 PM
Well I thought so but Atletico not in the same class as the other three.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: asylumseeker on October 27, 2014, 02:27:18 AM
Well I thought so but Atletico not in the same class as the other three.

Bite yuh tongue, eh. :P 

Nonetheless, defend your position.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Deeks on October 29, 2014, 04:20:57 PM
I did not want open a new thread for this. Mods could move it, if they want. Imagine you have an important game with your club side, but decide to go to Spain to see El Clasico. And your side lose. This from the bbc.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29823369


St Albans City striker John Frendo has apologised for missing his side's FA Cup tie on Saturday - in favour of attending El Clasico.

The 29-year-old was absent from the 1-0 defeat by Concord Rangers - losing out on a first-round tie at Mansfield.

The Herts Advertiser suggested Frendo was at the Bernabeu  in Spain watching Real Madrid's 3-1 win over Barcelona.

"I would like to apologise to all connected with St Albans City Football Club," said Frendo.

"Especially our supporters, my team-mates and my managers Jimmy [Gray] and Graham [Goulds].

"I recognise that the FA Cup is important to a club at our level. I regret missing the match on Saturday - the extent of the reaction surprised me.

"The club has imposed a maximum fine upon me, which I have accepted, and I am now hoping to be able to make a positive contribution to our forthcoming league, Senior Cup and FA Trophy fixtures. I would like to add that I am enjoying my time at Clarence Park."

The Saints, who play in the Conference South, would have earned £12,000 in prize money and half of the ticket sales at Mansfield had they progressed.

Frendo, a former Cambridge City and Chesham striker, was the club's top scorer last season, finding the net 43 times in 54 appearances.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Bitter on March 22, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Football is a funny game. To me, Madrid is playing better ball, yet...
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Bitter on March 22, 2015, 03:31:43 PM
Neymar pulling stones
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: elan on March 22, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
Barca pull ah Jose. Mou, "The Special One".  :rotfl:
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Deeks on March 22, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
Was the goal by Bale offside? It looked like a good goal to me!
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 22, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Was the goal by Bale offside? It looked like a good goal to me!

Ronaldo was offside
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: weary1969 on March 23, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
Biter finally became a postman and finally delivered.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: 100% Barataria on March 23, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
Biter finally became a postman and finally delivered.

Been doing that several weeks now.  Ting is, even when he was not scoring he was setting up  Messi/Neymar on a platter, to me he settled in really quick.  All attention has been on his scoring when truth and in fact he's been delivering in one form or another from early on.  Now that he's scoring more regularly he's getting more attention.

Levante is not a big side, but known to upset table toppers from time to time.  Take a look at this Suarez strike from a few weeks ago, after this he coulda probably bite Messi and Barca fans wulda still love him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSBR6aMK9fM
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: Peong on March 24, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Allyuh see Suarez control for his goal?  He caressed the ball like a baby, beautiful touch to trap that caught everyone by suprise and allowed him to have an early shot.
Neymar could have had a couple in this game.  Messi was actually quiet for most of the game.
I didn't like Kroos in this game, he was uninfluential and couldn't match the Barca mids.
Cristiano Ronaldo's goal was sweet, great play by Benzema.
Title: Re: El Clasico - Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Post by: elan on March 24, 2015, 10:30:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Troll__Football/status/580273913071976448/video/1 (https://twitter.com/Troll__Football/status/580273913071976448/video/1)    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Super Clásico • Barcelona vs Real Madrid Thread •
Post by: Flex on February 14, 2020, 01:26:25 PM
Barcelona, Real Madrid working to stage Clasico in U.S. - sources
By Moises Llorens & Rodrigo Faez, ESPN Soccernet


Barcelona and Real Madrid have been working for several weeks to organise a Clasico friendly match in the United States this summer, sources have told ESPN.

Barcelona are aware Las Vegas and Los Angeles are interested in hosting them and The Washington Post have previously reported that a game between the Spanish giants could be the first sporting event at Allegiant Stadium, the future home of the NFL's Raiders franchise.

Barca and Madrid have taken part in previous editions of the International Champions Cup in the United States and faced each other in 2017, when a crowd of 66,014 watched a 3-2 win for Barca in Miami.

When contacted by ESPN, a spokesman for ICC organisers Relevent would only say that the schedule for this year's event has not been finalised.

Sources have told ESPN there is still work to be done before confirming the game, due to the tight window between the end of the European Championship and Copa America taking place on July 12 and the start of the Spanish season. Although no date is yet confirmed for the 2020-21 season, the 2019-20 campaign began on Aug. 16.

Footballers in Spain are entitled to a month's holiday following an international tournament, therefore those who have been selected for their national teams will have 30 days of rest following participation in the Euros and Copa America.

Barca plan to do the majority of preparation in Europe, playing two or three friendlies, but do not want to miss the opportunity to meet Madrid in America. There is a desire to avoid a repeat of last year's poor preseason, which saw Lionel Messi miss the U.S. leg through injury and led to a slow start in La Liga.

Madrid have been travelling to the U.S. during preseason for some time. Former manager Jose Mourinho regularly took the club to California and successors including Carlo Ancelotti, Zinedine Zidane and Julen Lopetegui have continued the trend.

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