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Title: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 02, 2008, 11:21:57 AM: Sat slams ‘bogus TT democracy’
By SANDRA SINGH Wednesday, January 2 2008

SECRETARY General of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) Satnarine Maharaj yesterday lashed out at politicians over the state of the country, deeming TT as a “bogus and sham democracy.” He claimed although it appeared people were free, “there were elements around which were organised to deny us the freedom we should enjoy.”

Maharaj made these strong statements at Maha Sabha headquarters in St Augustine where a ‘puja’ (Hindu prayer) was held to mark the start of the New Year. “While the firecrackers and fireworks had expelled its energy, people were now forced to go back to ordinary living by facing the crises that plague us day after day,” Maharaj said.

He added that last year the country experienced a peaceful General Election as compared to the carnage in Pakistan and Kenya. However, he questioned whether this was sufficient.

“We see leaders on a daily basis going to and from court, judges being threatened with the Chief Justice being tormented for two years and almost destroyed. There is rising crime where more blood is flowing on the streets than water in WASA pipes, a healthcare system in disarray, high food prices and a nation starving in the midst of prosperity,” Maharaj slammed.

He further remarked that “we may have survived but we survived in a bogus democracy.”

Maharaj also lamented that TT was “the first democratic country that never held a referendum on any topic”, with “policies and programmes being introduced” without consultation of the people. He cited an example of the proposed smelter plants, saying health concerns were raised by the citizens but instead of having a referendum on the issue, “it was being rammed down the throats of the people.”

He added that the brainpower of the land was also moving away with businessmen having to conduct their business abroad. “Don’t congratulate yourself that we are a democracy. We are a bogus democracy where only those with political power enjoy the benefits,” he said.

He stated that “to be a true democratic nation everyone had to enjoy the benefits of democracy.”

He claimed that it was almost six years ago, “judges in London ruled that we (the Maha Sabha) should be given our democratic right” and should be paid cost and compensation and loss of earnings. However, it is more than two years and the matter has not been heard.” “How could this be democracy? This is bogus democracy,” Maharaj said as he was dealing with the Maha Sabha case which went before the Privy Council on the issue of the granting of a radio station licence.

He further called for any matter dealing with the constitutional rights of the people to be cost free, saying that people should not have to pay to preserve their constitutional right.

“The biggest culprit in denying the people their right is always the Government and the state who are always trying to erode the people’s rights,” Maharaj insisted. He added that “the ordinary man did not have access to the courts and only those with money could afford to preserve their rights.”

Maharaj ended by calling upon the people “to become vigilant and always stand up, speak out and fight against anybody who would deny us the freedom.” He also called upon the politicians to involve the citizens in the state’s administration.
Title: Re: Sat slams ‘bogus TT democracy’
Post by: asylumseeker on January 02, 2008, 12:17:39 PM: So why allyuh eh tell Sat to dust it ... to switch jurisdiction (like men does be urging Just Cool whenever he sounds de revolutionary horn)?
Title: Re: Sat slams ‘bogus TT democracy’
Post by: Jah Gol on January 02, 2008, 01:21:53 PM: Another sterling contribution from Sat.
Title: Re: Sat slams ‘bogus TT democracy’
Post by: weary1969 on January 02, 2008, 11:35:28 PM: Another yr of ranting from d so call religious leader
Title: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 03, 2009, 12:41:54 PM: Trinidad Hindu group head says Indians under threat from government

Published on Monday, June 1, 2009 Email To Friend Print Version

By Oscar Ramjeet
Caribbean Net News Special Correspondent
Email: oscar@caribbeannetnews.com

PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad -- Sat Maharaj, president of the major Hindu organisation in Trinidad and Tobago, the Maha Sabha, said that Indians in Trinidad and Tobago were under threat from the current administration headed by Prime Minister Patrick Manning.

"We never felt so insecure as we are feeling today because the government plans to destroy the Hindus of the island," said Maharaj, speaking to a large gathering at Indian Arrival Day activities in Port of Spain,"

He said that as a leading member of the Indian community, he has worked with several prime ministers, including Eric Williams, George Chambers, and Basdeo Panday, and said that Prime Minister Manning is bent on destroying 45 percent of the population.

He added that every action taken by the government is designed to destroy the standard of the Indian population, Maharaj declared, noting that discrimination by the government was expressed by the Privy Council in its judgment regarding the Trinidad case with Abu Bakr.

Maharaj also criticised Manning's statement in Parliament last Wednesday when he made reference to Indian Arrival Day as Arrival Day.

http://mediatakeout.com/external/33140.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: ricky on June 03, 2009, 12:50:06 PM: ah wish somebody would shoot this assclown and shut him once and for all.
he doing nothing but making the problem worse
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Peter on June 03, 2009, 02:28:56 PM: Quote from: ricky on June 03, 2009, 12:50:06 PM
ah wish somebody would shoot this assclown and shut him once and for all.
he doing nothing but making the problem worse

Very true. He tries to cause racial division in this country in every possible way he can think of and at every turn. The thing he needs to realize though, is that most people don't give a crap about what he has to say, even though he thinks he's some great revolutionary speaker. Really I feel very sorry for him.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Controversial on June 03, 2009, 02:38:38 PM: most of what sat says is rubbish and race baiting, but manning isnt backward himself, sat actually supported the govt on giving the baptist holiday, so he did some good but the funny thing is about sat is that hes a hypocrite at the same time, bc the reason pnm win the election bc the top hindu indians support pnm, and that is hardcore facts.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Bourbon on June 03, 2009, 04:37:29 PM: Oh right. Is that time of year again. Dis happened a few days ago.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Deeks on June 03, 2009, 05:27:39 PM: Manning is either a doh-doh head or he does not care, because he feels he will win next elections whatever. What is the protocol for funding national holidays. Does Emancipation day get more than Indian arrival? Does the PM or president supposed to make a speach. Are there programs or plans to have bi-racial participation in each other festivals. WHAT???!!!!
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: D.H.W on June 03, 2009, 05:41:26 PM: YAWN
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: weary1969 on June 03, 2009, 05:55:44 PM: Quote from: Die.Hard.Warrior on June 03, 2009, 05:41:26 PM
YAWN

Cosign x 100
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Bourbon on June 03, 2009, 05:59:03 PM: Quote from: Deeks on June 03, 2009, 05:27:39 PM
Manning is either a doh-doh head or he does not care, because he feels he will win next elections whatever. What is the protocol for funding national holidays. Does Emancipation day get more than Indian arrival? Does the PM or president supposed to make a speach. Are there programs or plans to have bi-racial participation in each other festivals. WHAT???!!!!

I thought it was supposed to be Arrival Day where the arrival of all are celebrated...even doh it started off as indian arrival? Cuz if it had an indian arrival..den it should have an african arrival.....portugese arrival..chinese arrival....etc. Yuh see how it does start?
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: zuluwarrior on June 03, 2009, 05:59:40 PM: Sat need ah Dougla gran child to keep him busy .
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: weary1969 on June 03, 2009, 06:02:02 PM: Quote from: Bourbon on June 03, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Deeks on June 03, 2009, 05:27:39 PM
Manning is either a doh-doh head or he does not care, because he feels he will win next elections whatever. What is the protocol for funding national holidays. Does Emancipation day get more than Indian arrival? Does the PM or president supposed to make a speach. Are there programs or plans to have bi-racial participation in each other festivals. WHAT???!!!!

I thought it was supposed to be Arrival Day where the arrival of all are celebrated...even doh it started off as indian arrival? Cuz if it had an indian arrival..den it should have an african arrival.....portugese arrival..chinese arrival....etc. Yuh see how it does start?

UNC change dat to Indian Arrival Day longgggggggggg time
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: mukumsplau on June 03, 2009, 06:06:12 PM: no y i go wanna celebrate mih arrival...dey cuff mih up an tell meh go dey...emancipation is a diffrent ting...dey tell meh buss out!!
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 03, 2009, 06:18:32 PM: Quote from: zuluwarrior on June 03, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Sat need ah Dougla gran child to keep him busy .

he eh have one ?
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: weary1969 on June 03, 2009, 08:18:18 PM: Sat does make meh wish a departure day.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: capodetutticapi on June 03, 2009, 08:54:30 PM: Quote from: zuluwarrior on June 03, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Sat need ah Dougla gran child to keep him busy .
he family might ha to plan funeral.
Title: Re: Sat Maharaj accuses gov't of Racism
Post by: WestCoast on June 03, 2009, 09:09:50 PM: Quote from: weary1969 on June 03, 2009, 08:18:18 PM
Sat does make meh wish a departure day.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Weary strikes

again ;D
Title: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: truetrini on November 10, 2009, 06:39:18 PM: SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals
Shastri Boodan
Published: 10 Nov 2009

LEFT: Ian Alleyne and his sister, Dana Alleyne, in this 2007 Guardian file photo. RIGHT: Sat Maharaj
Shastri Boodan

The Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha is ready for any battle with the Pentecostal movement, says Sat Maharaj, secretary general of T&T’s largest Hindu body. Maharaj’s comments follows Saturday’s fracas at the Dow Village Hindu Temple in California, Central Trinidad. The dispute, apparently, erupted over an issue of who should control the facility. The Maha Sabha maintained that the temple was its property. Head of T&T Crime Watch and Pentecostal pastor, Ian Allen, who said he was invited by temple officials to witness a meeting that afternoon, claimed he was physically assaulted by a senior member of the Maha Sabha, while recording video images.

In a release, the Maha Sabha said the mandir’s management committee failed to hand in financial reports. The Maha Sabha said it had received complaints from members of the community that villagers were essentially driven out of the mandir by a family unit that had hijacked the temple. The Maha Sabha temple’s committee set last Saturday as the date for new elections. However, when the Maha Sabha team showed up, a meeting was already in progress, the release stated. The Maha Sabha said the majority of people attending that meeting were outsiders “and fundamentalist Pentecostal Christians, who were preventing the SDMS (Maha Sabha) from conducting the election.

The controversial temple at Dow Village. Photo: Shastri Boodan

It stated that the Maha Sabha planned legal action. Speaking over Radio Jagriti 102.7 FM, yesterday, Maharaj, 78, said the Pentecostal movement was creating disparity among the Hindus in Dow Village, and by extension T&T. Maharaj said the area already had nine Pentecostal churches in what was a predominantly Hindu community, with only one temple. He said Alleyne was an instigator in the Pentecostal drive to convert the Hindu community to Christianity. Maharaj, on his radio show, hit out at Dana Alleyne, sister of Ian Alleyne, who shot to fame when she partied at Zen Night-Club with singer Akon in 2007, when she was 14 years old.

He said he also wanted the Government to investigate the finances at the Temple In The Sea at Waterloo. Maharaj said that temple belonged to the State, but was being controlled by one man. Maharaj said $2 million was spent on the initial renovation of the temple, and grants were given to the temple for infrastructure development as a tourist attraction. “Where the money gone? The public is yet to get an account from the Temple In The Sea, which is funded and owned by the State.” Maharaj said members of the family of Siewdass Sadhu, the man who built the Temple In The Sea, were nowhere to be seen.

Ian Alleyne responds:
Alleyne said he was deeply hurt that Maharaj resurrected the incident involving his sister, who graduated from Couva Government Secondary School last year. A licensed marriage officer, Alleyne said he believed Maharaj had taken a Pentecostal “spin” to detract from the real issues at the temple. He said he would never disrespect the temple, and was open and welcoming to all religions. Alleyne said the matter was being handled by his lawyer, Om Lalla.
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: Bourbon on November 10, 2009, 07:01:24 PM: Oh boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/O2c-VMSofLY

Well...dis eh de footage dat i see on news.....had a lil more scuffling and ting. Two piece of talk i hear through de ole talk from both sides of de fence...

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The temple in question, is a Maha Sabha temple. The president of the temple, last year when they tried to remove him, brought a gun and behaved very indecently to keep his 'job', because of the benefits.

This year, when the Maha Sabha made an effort to remove him, they carried police to ensure nobody got hurt.

Ian Alleyne was lured over to the gun-toting guy's side, and he tried to fabricate some video to make it look like the maha Sabha was attacking and hurting the other people.

and de rebuttal....
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Slow yuh roll fella! The temple is NOT a SDMS temple. It was built by the Dow Village temple and is unaffiliated. Sat came with a security detail and tried to forcefully take over ownership. The guys he brought started pushing people who were praying at the time, including an 86 year old woman to the ground. Ian Allen was invited by the temple to witness the behaviour of Sat and Co. For his troubles,he got a severely bruised arm from when they tried to take away his video camera.

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SDMS has an adjacent parcel of land apparently,and somehow are claiming the temple as theirs. There is some sort of grant that the Gov't gives for upkeep of religious places,once they are registered, so this may be behind this entire fracas

Plenty comess to come. :-\
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: truetrini on November 10, 2009, 08:59:14 PM: Sat jes like dem Muslims terrosits....he is ah hindu radicaL THAT HATES ANYTHING CHRISTIAN.

aHHHH BOSS, NATURAL SELECTION WHERE ART THOU?
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: Jah Gol on November 10, 2009, 09:36:04 PM: That seems like an internal property rights issue between two Hindu bodies. The guy is so hateful that he blame the problem on 'fundamentalist Pentecostals'. It's laughable to say the least.
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: Daft Trini on November 10, 2009, 10:35:24 PM: Quote from: Trinity Cross on November 10, 2009, 08:59:14 PM
Sat jes like dem Muslims terrosits....he is ah hindu radicaL THAT HATES ANYTHING CHRISTIAN.

aHHHH BOSS, NATURAL SELECTION WHERE ART THOU?

add anything black to that list also... >:(
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2009, 08:36:41 AM: But he black too!
Title: Re: SAT again: "SDMS ready for war with Pentecostals"
Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2009, 08:37:00 AM: Sat: Let's end mandir row now
-Phoolo Danny-Maharaj

Wednesday, November 11th 2009

SANATAN Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) secretary general Satnarayan Maharaj agrees with Pamela Gokool that there should be an early settlement to the row over control of the Dow Village Hindu Mandir.

Responding to the fracas that erupted during a planned meeting at the mandir on Saturday, Maharaj said: ’We are disappointed that some people behaved the way they did preventing a legitimate election on Saturday. Every religious community has a problem, but they settle their problems themselves. I am hoping this would be settled and the rules would be adhered for the benefit of all.’

Maharaj said the issue of management of the temple has been long standing ’for years’.

Maharaj said he spoke with Gokool, the temple secretary, and they mutually agreed to a date and time for the elections. But when the SDMS entourage arrived Sunday, they did not meet the welcome they expected.

Gokool, on the other had, said they had prepared for the officials and were chanting as a way to welcome them to the temple. She said she invited a camera crew.

Meanwhile, an interim committee has been named to manage the temple.
Title: Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: truetrini on November 16, 2010, 12:09:44 AM: Sat, Devant sues Manning
By JADA LOUTOO Tuesday, November 16 2010

TWO executive members of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha will be initiating legal action against the State, former prime minister Patrick Manning and former national security minister Martin Joseph, for invasion of their privacy, after it was revealed that the former administration sanctioned illegal wiretapping of their telephones.

Maha Sabha secretary general Satnarayan Maharaj and executive member Devant Maharaj, in a statement yesterday, signalled their intention to take legal action after Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar disclosed in Parliament on Friday last, that the names of the two were on an extensive list of persons whose telephones were illegally wire-tapped by unit known as the Security Intelligence Agency (SIA).

The SIA reported to the former prime minister and the former security minister, Persad-Bissessar revealed. Both men will be sued personally, the two Maha Sabha executives said yesterday.

The statement issued by the SDMS president general indicated that the central executive and other arms of the body were shocked and amazed at the revelation made by the Prime Minister on Friday last.

He said these groups — which include the Pundits Parishad, the Youth Arm and Women’s Arm, among others — are said to be concerned about the implications of the two men being spied upon.

“During the PNM Government, the Maha Sabha, Satnarayan Maharaj and Devant Maharaj had various legal actions before the courts against the State,” the statement said.

Maharaj said their attorney, now Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, was also spied on and said the implication for this “regarding the independence of the judiciary” has caused the Maha Sabha and its officers to reflect on whether their legal actions against the State were in any form compromised, the statement said.

Maharaj said they have also written to Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard. The men are expected to say more about their lawsuit at a press conference today at the SDMS’ headquarters in St Augustine.
Title: Re: Sat, Devant sues Manning
Post by: g on November 16, 2010, 07:28:33 AM: Not surprised at all, expected this,

the others will line up with their lawyers en tow.

This is a breach of the constitutional right to privacy and the state is culpable 100%.

I don't see how the state can even defend this.
Title: Re: Sat, Devant sues Manning
Post by: truetrini on November 16, 2010, 07:32:48 AM: Quote from: g on November 16, 2010, 07:28:33 AM
Not surprised at all, expected this,

the others will line up with their lawyers en tow.

This is a breach of the constitutional right to privacy and the state is culpable 100%.

I don't see how the state can even defend this.

well if the files were truly destroyed, how are they proving it? From what Kamla said? Not saying there is no evidence, jes sayig Kamla and dem saying ting today and saying is mis print and mis quote tomorrow.

Files destroyed? Or dem have de files?

Seems like mischief to me Devant and Sat have axe to grind.
Title: Re: Sat, Devant sues Manning
Post by: g on November 16, 2010, 07:42:38 AM: Quote from: Trinity Cross on November 16, 2010, 07:32:48 AM
Quote from: g on November 16, 2010, 07:28:33 AM
Not surprised at all, expected this,

the others will line up with their lawyers en tow.

This is a breach of the constitutional right to privacy and the state is culpable 100%.

I don't see how the state can even defend this.

well if the files were truly destroyed, how are they proving it? From what Kamla said? Not saying there is no evidence, jes sayig Kamla and dem saying ting today and saying is mis print and mis quote tomorrow.

Files destroyed? Or dem have de files?

Seems like mischief to me Devant and Sat have axe to grind.

You're right about that,

Just like the selectivity of the Parliment presentation list may be the list of those who will be able to proove their case.

But they have hansad records where the PM puts their names up. If the case goes to court, can the PM be called to testify on her source? This is where it gets grey for me.
Title: Re: Sat, Devant sues Manning
Post by: weary1969 on November 16, 2010, 10:41:08 AM: Quote from: g on November 16, 2010, 07:42:38 AM
Quote from: Trinity Cross on November 16, 2010, 07:32:48 AM
Quote from: g on November 16, 2010, 07:28:33 AM
Not surprised at all, expected this,

the others will line up with their lawyers en tow.

This is a breach of the constitutional right to privacy and the state is culpable 100%.

I don't see how the state can even defend this.

well if the files were truly destroyed, how are they proving it? From what Kamla said? Not saying there is no evidence, jes sayig Kamla and dem saying ting today and saying is mis print and mis quote tomorrow.

Files destroyed? Or dem have de files?

Seems like mischief to me Devant and Sat have axe to grind.

You're right about that,

Just like the selectivity of the Parliment presentation list may be the list of those who will be able to proove their case.

But they have hansad records where the PM puts their names up. If the case goes to court, can the PM be called to testify on her source? This is where it gets grey for me.

This is like Jack suing Lasana u cannot sue based on what was said in Parliament otherwise d CJ could have sue Volney.
Title: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 07, 2011, 05:57:46 AM: SAT: MAX MUST GO
By CLINT CHAN TACK
Newsday - Thursday, April 7 2011

President George Maxwell Richards buckled under political pressure when he revoked the appointment of Nizam Mohammed as Police Service Commission (PSC) and he must immediately resign, Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) secretary general Sat Maharaj said yesterday, two days after Richards revoked Mohammed’s appointment.

And while Mohammed has publicly called on the President to explain the reasons why his appointment was revoked, Maharaj told Newsday it was not enough at this stage for Richards to merely provide an explanation. “We have passed that point. He should retire. He made a mess out of a simple issue. Max must go,” Maharaj declared.

Stating there was a 1994 study which argued there was an ethnic imbalance in the Police Service, Maharaj also claimed that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s current National Security Adviser Gary Griffith also spoke on this issue when he was a temporary UNC senator.

Newsday was reliably informed that during his tenure as a temporary Opposition Senator from October 2002 to September 2007, Griffith spoke about situations in New York and the United Kingdom where questions were raised about ethnic composition in police forces in each of these jurisdictions. At that time, Griffith said it was a question of levelling the playing field and it was necessary to “open the Pandora’s Box” and confront this issue head on with meritocracy being the main focus.

Mohammed first raised the issue of an ethnic imbalance in the Police Service in a letter dated December 7, 2010 to Israel Khan SC. In that letter, Mohammed said data provided by the Commissioner of Police (CoP) suggests that “within the Police Service of 6,219 personnel, 1,917 are of East Indian descent” and this represents approximately 30.82 percent of the service’s total manpower.

Mohammed said the CoP also advised that the suggested ratio of 90 percent of police officers being of African descent was incorrect. “He (CoP) stated that the records of the Police Service illustrate that approximately 61.71 percent of police officers are of African descent and 7.46 percent are of mixed ancestral heritage.”

Mohammed’s letter was a response to a letter which Khan wrote to him on August 23, 2010. In that letter, Khan said it was incumbent upon the PSC to conduct an inquiry/research in order to ascertain why the Police Service “is lopsided in favour of African membership.” Khan said he did not believe that affirmative action should be taken to cure this defect. “East Indian inclusion should take place slowly but surely and it should be based on merit, ability and integrity,” Khan said.

“Why has he dismissed Nizam Mohammed for speaking the truth? What wrong has Nizam Mohammed done by bringing this to the attention of the national community?” Maharaj asked. He said while it is expected that politicians will take sides on any issue, the President cannot take sides or respond to political pressure. Maharaj claimed that in Mohammed’s case, Richards “responded under PNM pressure.” However the revocation of Mohammed’s appointment was also preceded by strong condemnation from both the Government and the Opposition for his statements to the JSC.

On March 26, Works and Transport Minister Jack Warner said Mohammed had done a disservice to the country. On March 28, a statement issued from the Office of the Prime Minister said, “Mr Mohammed must be held accountable for his inflammatory and unwise remarks which in on way represent the views of the Government.

The statement went further to indicate that “statements such as the one by Mr Mohammed are divisive and serve no useful purpose other than to undermine the trust that is reposed in him as chairman of the Police Service Commission.”

The Congress of the People (COP) of which Mohammed is a member also condemned his remarks on March 28.

In a statement on Monday, the President said he exercised his powers under Sections 122 A (1) (d) and (f) of the Constitution to revoke Mohammed’s appointment on the basis of “a lack of competence to perform his duties” and that he failed “to perform his duties in a responsible manner.”
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: congo on April 07, 2011, 10:07:10 AM: This disgust doesn't deserve a thread. Nice to see that he got a national award last year after all the years. Well done Kamla.. >:( :(
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on April 07, 2011, 07:21:41 PM: Quote from: congo on April 07, 2011, 10:07:10 AM
This disgust doesn't deserve a thread. Nice to see that he got a national award last year after all the years. Well done Kamla.. >:( :(

Very well done
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 08, 2011, 05:08:31 AM: Quote from: congo on April 07, 2011, 10:07:10 AM
This disgust doesn't deserve a thread. Nice to see that he got a national award last year after all the years. Well done Kamla.. >:( :(

Why ?

If Jack Warner could get a thread anyone could get one.

These kind of controversial people need an entire thread.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: Sam on April 08, 2011, 06:20:19 AM: Bad talk any Indian and you will find weary there.

Every race in this world have somebody who does cause a stir... why everybody focusing on Sat Maharaj alone...

Sugar Aloes, Watchman, Crocro, Iwer George, Rowley,,,, etc... is some of de most racist creole I know, but yuh think they does get bad name like Sat Maharaj.....

All in de same blasted boat....
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on April 08, 2011, 06:52:25 AM: Quote from: Sam on April 08, 2011, 06:20:19 AM
Bad talk any Indian and you will find weary there.

Every race in this world have somebody who does cause a stir... why everybody focusing on Sat Maharaj alone...

Sugar Aloes, Watchman, Crocro, Iwer George, Rowley,,,, etc... is some of de most racist creole I know, but yuh think they does get bad name like Sat Maharaj.....

All in de same blasted boat....
What make Rowley a racist ?
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2011, 08:45:38 AM: I C I no longer sweatin d sheets wit Patos I now hatin on Indians. Cro Cro etal eh a religious leaders so silly people 4 expectin different from old Sat.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: Bakes on April 08, 2011, 09:12:21 AM: Quote from: Jah Gol on April 08, 2011, 06:52:25 AM
Quote from: Sam on April 08, 2011, 06:20:19 AM
Bad talk any Indian and you will find weary there.

Every race in this world have somebody who does cause a stir... why everybody focusing on Sat Maharaj alone...

Sugar Aloes, Watchman, Crocro, Iwer George, Rowley,,,, etc... is some of de most racist creole I know, but yuh think they does get bad name like Sat Maharaj.....

All in de same blasted boat....
What make Rowley a racist ?

Or Iwer for that matter?
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: MEP on April 08, 2011, 09:20:07 AM: Quote from: weary1969 on April 08, 2011, 08:45:38 AM
I C I no longer sweatin d sheets wit Patos I now hatin on Indians. Cro Cro etal eh a religious leaders so silly people 4 expectin different from old Sat.
gyal ah whey yuh dey....why yuh hatin on de people so???
I tort Cro Cro was a preacherman cause I singin de chorus....
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on April 08, 2011, 09:26:26 AM: MEP I right here :rotfl: Patrick blank meh yuh know dey does always go bck 2 d wife. So as I have time on meh hand I usin meh energies on hatin on Indians.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread.
Post by: MEP on April 08, 2011, 09:34:36 AM: oh gawd oh...... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2011, 01:37:07 AM: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
PNM MP reveals school principal's letter…
By by Ria Taitt Political Editor

Story Created: Nov 10, 2011 at 10:59 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 10, 2011 at 10:59 PM ECT

People's National Movement (PNM) MP Patricia McIntosh has slammed the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) for its conduct at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School in denying equal opportunities to pupils of different denominations, particularly black children who reside within the catchment area.

Speaking in the House of Representatives at Tower D, Waterfront Complex, Port of Spain, on Wednesday night, McIntosh charged that the Maha Sabha also sought to exclude non-Indian on-the-job trainees (OJTs), sent by the Ministry of Education, to work at the school.

McIntosh also criticised Minister of Education Dr Tim Gopeesingh for his "deafening silence" and inaction in the face of this glaring discriminatory "and unlawful" behaviour of the Maha Sabha which, she contended, "could alter", in a very hideous manner, the face of education in Trinidad and Tobago".

McIntosh, a former school principal, also identified Transport Minister Devant Maharaj as appearing to lend support to the Maha Sabha general secretary, Sat Maharaj.

To demonstrate her claim, McIntosh quoted extensively from correspondence submitted to the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) by principal of the school Sita Gajadharsingh Nanga, dated June 17, 2011, in which she complained of "numerous acts of intimidation and harassment" by the Maha Sabha board and several of its members. As a result of this, she requested a release from the SDMS board and a transfer to the Government Teaching Service.

"The Secretary General (Sat Maharaj) threatened to lock me out of the school for taking in non-Indian children who were within the catchment area. He told me, in no uncertain terms, that I must not admit black children into the school, and admission lists for both primary and pre-school are being scrutinised to ascertain whether I am following instructions," Gajadharsingh Nanga stated in the letter.

McIntosh said Gajadharsingh Nanga's letter stated: "The Secretary General was in an uproar because two of eight OJTs sent to the school were non-Indian. He threatened that the school keys would be taken from me because I was changing the culture of the school, and I was ordered to immediately get rid of the (two) OJTs".

McIntosh called for national debate on the role of religion, in respect of the exclusion of students or staff from certain denominational schools where those persons do not profess the religion of the particular denomination.

"Mr Speaker, I should like to know what is the ruling of the Equal Opportunity Commission on this matter? While the commission is busy pronouncing on Senator Devant Maharaj's allegations of racism in respect of grants awarded under the PNM administration, it would be interesting to hear what they have to say on this issue where, in certain schools, children are denied the opportunity of an education and workers, the opportunity of employment, based on the grounds of religion. This is in total defiance of the Equal Opportunity Act," she said.

McIntosh yesterday pointed out that Gajadharsingh Nanga also complained in her letter to the TSC that "she was expected to admit illegal Guyanese children into the school, and when she did not accede to this request, it posed a problem". Gajadharsingh Singh also stated she was forced to curtail the teaching of agricultural science in the school after being told by Maharaj that he was trying to "take Indians out of the canefield and I (Gajadharsingh Nanga) am trying to put them back in it".

McIntosh said since September 5, Gajadharsingh Nanga had been debarred from entering the school where she is still principal. She said on October 24, two school supervisors accompanied Gajadharsingh Nanga to the school where all three were denied entry. They summoned the police to instruct the security guard to allow them entry, and they also had to summon fire officers to break the locks of two doors to gain entry to the principal's office, the PNM MP said.

She said on the next day, October 25, they returned again and were prevented from entering the compound. "To add insult to injury, Mr Satnarine Maharaj, accompanied by Mr Devant Maharaj, Minister of Transport, visited the Tunapuna Police Station to press charges against the principal, the two school supervisors, the police and fire officers who had accompanied them to the school on the previous day (October 24).

"Mr Speaker, if this is not the height of arrogance and contempt for the State on the part of the board, then I do not know what is," McIntosh stated.

Contacted yesterday, Maharaj declined to give an answer to the direct question of whether he had accompanied Sat Maharaj to the police station on October 25 to take action against the school principal and others. "I have asked for a copy of the Hansard (of McIntosh), which was just e-mailed to me by my staff. I am going to look through it and see if it was factual, and if it is not, I will take the appropriate action. But I wouldn't want to comment until I have read what she had to say," the minister said.

McIntosh, however, said yesterday that Minister Maharaj's action (of accompanying Sat Maharaj to the police station) was in direct opposition to his stance in taking the PNM government to the Equal Opportunity Commission over the scholarship fund.

She told the House on Wednesday night that the Maha Sabha had arrogated onto itself an authority it did not possess. "Like all denominational boards, the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School is, indeed, by law, a public school. Denominational schools are funded by public money, taxpayers' money; teachers are paid by the State and resources are provided by the State", McIntosh said.

She said while the buildings that housed the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School belong to the board, the school itself, that body that comprises the students, the teachers, administrators and the school's operations, falls under the jurisdiction of the State.

McIntosh said despite the Ministry of Education's permanent secretary's instructions to the principal to report for duty at the school, the board of the Maha Sabha remained inflexible and resolute in its stance to keep the principal locked out.

"No matter what the ministry says, the board is unwilling to change its position. And I have to ask where is the honourable Minister of Education in all of this? He has been deafeningly silent.... The public has a right to know what action the Minister of Education intends to take in respect of this highly unlawful and untenable situation," she said.

She said according to the 1960 Concordat, it was the Teaching Service Commission, the agent of the State, that possessed the authority to appoint, retain, promote, discipline, transfer or terminate teachers and administrators, not the board. Furthermore, she said, under the Industrial Relations Act, the board has no power to lock out either teachers or administrators and prevent him or her from performing his or her duties.

McIntosh also quoted a letter from Maharaj, (Sat) in which he chastised Gajadharsingh Nanga for hiring a secretary "who is not a Hindu and does not respond to teachers and students in our tradition. In addition, you have permitted a number of OJTs who are not Hindus and do not conform to our dress code. We hereby advise that within two weeks, you send these persons back to the officers from which you accepted them. We view this as a serious breach of the Concordat and will take positive action if our instructions remain unfulfilled".

She noted that the letter also stated the school was the property of the Maha Sabha, and its control falls under the SDMS education board of management. "We have the right to ensure that the culture and religion of the school reflects the culture and religion of the SDMS," Maharaj (Sat) wrote.
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Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2011, 01:39:20 AM: Gopeesingh: Take up issue with Equal Opportunity

Story Created: Nov 10, 2011 at 10:59 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 10, 2011 at 10:59 PM ECT

Minister of Education Dr Tim Gopeesingh has advised People's National Movement (PNM) MP Patricia McIntosh to take the issue of alleged discrimination by the Maha Sabha at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School to the Equal Opportunity Commission for a ruling.

He was speaking on Wednesday night in the House of Representatives at Tower D, Waterfront Complex, Port of Spain, in response to a motion on the adjournment brought by PNM MP Patricia McIntosh.

In giving a chronology of the events, Gopeesingh said on June 17, 2011, the principal, Sita Gajadharsingh Nanga, wrote to the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) requesting a transfer, in which she made numerous allegations about the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) board.

He said the letter was copied to no one at the ministry, except a School Supervisor 3. He said on August 10, 2011, a letter from the secretary general of the Maha Sabha was sent to the TSC, supporting Gajadharsingh Nanga's request for the transfer and making allegations against her. That letter was also not sent to the Ministry of Education. On August 22, a memorandum from the TSC came to the ministry, seeking its comments and recommendations on the issue.

Gopeesingh said on August 30, 2011, the permanent secretary sent a letter to the Commission, indicating the following: The principal had not followed the established procedures in applying for a transfer since the Public Service Commission regulations require such an application to be made through the school board to the permanent secretary; the issues raised by both the principal and the secretary general of the Maha Sabha contained many substantiated allegations; the decision on the transfer remains a matter for the Commission to decide.

Gopeesingh said on September 26, the Director of Personal Administration wrote to the Ministry of Education, requesting that the permanent secretary take steps to ensure that the principal be allowed to carry out her duties at the school. He said a letter was sent to the Maha Sabha on October 14 confirming that unless Gajadharsingh Nanga is transferred or otherwise directed by the TSC, the Maha Sabha board had no authority to debar her from reporting for duty at the school.

Gopeesingh said MTS, on October 20, confirmed the principal would be allowed entry to the school. But on October 24, the same day the principal was debarred from entry to the school, the Maha Sabha advised MTS that it had been relieved of its responsibility at the school. In addition to a report from the School Supervisor 3, the ministry also received a letter from the TSC asking for an investigation. The minister said the permanent secretary appointed a School Supervisor 2 and a School Supervisor 1 to do a probe, and their reports are due today (Friday). He said the Ministry of Education "has behaved in a very responsible manner".

Gopeesingh, however, noted it was the "height of hypocrisy" that the PNM, which for years resisted an Equal Opportunity Commission ("set up as a result of the UNC and the Privy Council"), was asking what the Equal Opportunity Commission would say on this issue.

"You (McIntosh) have a matter that is close to your heart; you should probably send it to the Equal Opportunity Commission for their deliberations on it", he advised.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2011, 01:41:43 AM: Ethnic Cleansing Tim Gopeesingh? Or is Go Pissing?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mukumsplau on November 11, 2011, 04:45:23 AM: were it the other way around and naps, saghs, hillview blocked hindu's yuh woulda hear tim mouth....
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on November 11, 2011, 06:39:05 AM: The Prime Minister made Devant Maharaj a Minister and that's a 'cool scene' as we say. Smh
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on November 11, 2011, 06:59:50 AM: Lawd. :-\
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM: Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: lefty on November 11, 2011, 07:23:29 AM: smh
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 11, 2011, 08:34:28 AM: Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

U feel dat bad d security manager in d Ministry refuse 2 go wit d SS3 he say he is Sat friend so he eh goin.
Quote from: Jah Gol on November 11, 2011, 06:39:05 AM
The Prime Minister made Devant Maharaj a Minister and that's a 'cool scene' as we say. Smh

ENTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2011, 08:45:25 AM: The evolution of a name.

Go >>>>Gope>>>>Gopee>>>Gopeesingh>>>>GOPIO
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mukumsplau on November 11, 2011, 09:09:54 AM: things so bad that the express disable reader comments oui...
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 09:49:07 AM: :puking: :puking:

Anybody know where I could find a good friendly neighbourhood assassin??

Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

Ah been trying to warn yuh but like stick break in your ears.....now yuh seeing for yourself....is real shyte going on behind the scenes. This is just the tip of the iceberg my brother.....hold on tight, the ride will be long and difficult. And no, I am not an alarmist....yuh want details on what they trying in Tobago??
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Post by: 1-868 on November 11, 2011, 11:51:41 AM: Quote from: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
:puking: :puking:

Anybody know where I could find a good friendly neighbourhood assassin??

Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

Ah been trying to warn yuh but like stick break in your ears.....now yuh seeing for yourself....is real shyte going on behind the scenes. This is just the tip of the iceberg my brother.....hold on tight, the ride will be long and difficult. And no, I am not an alarmist....yuh want details on what they trying in Tobago??

Tell we Brownie, dont hold back
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: elan on November 11, 2011, 11:59:40 AM: Indian People not Black? They probably brown like the Mexicans in the USA :thinking:
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Post by: Socapro on November 11, 2011, 12:07:59 PM: Seems like Trinidad is determined to go the way of Guyana and looks like some folks here would actually look forward to that! :worried:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 11, 2011, 12:34:02 PM: Quote from: 1-868 on November 11, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
:puking: :puking:

Anybody know where I could find a good friendly neighbourhood assassin??

Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

Ah been trying to warn yuh but like stick break in your ears.....now yuh seeing for yourself....is real shyte going on behind the scenes. This is just the tip of the iceberg my brother.....hold on tight, the ride will be long and difficult. And no, I am not an alarmist....yuh want details on what they trying in Tobago??

Tell we Brownie, dont hold back

Voter padding d 2nd coming.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: elan on November 11, 2011, 01:26:48 PM: Quote from: Socapro on November 11, 2011, 12:07:59 PM
Seems like Trinidad is determined to go the way of Guyana and looks like some folks here would actually look forward to that! :worried:

I was waiting for someone to mention Guyana, cause I was reading some article the other day and realise the similarity in the PP and the PPP.
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Post by: Controversial on November 11, 2011, 01:51:17 PM: Quote from: mukumsplau on November 11, 2011, 04:45:23 AM
were it the other way around and naps, saghs, hillview blocked hindu's yuh woulda hear tim mouth....

many hindus and muslims went to presbyetrian schools, the presbyterian schools were a lot more open in allowing other religions and denominations to attend, even TML allowed christians to attend despite not being muslim. because of some schools having a close proximity to where you live, you attended because of that in certain cases.

devant should resign, gopeesingh is being a hypocrite to say the least and should not be associated with this bigotry because many hindu trinidadians were educated in presbyterian schools.

however, i am not surprised because UNC is hindu dominated, the power is not held with the christian indo-trinis and muslims, so the hindus in the party will protect their own interests, sadly to say, despite it being racist and hypocritical.

the kids who have been denied should be allowed to go to the school, i only hope if they do attend, they will not be marginalized >:(
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Post by: truetrini on November 11, 2011, 02:34:49 PM: The Hinduization of T&T!

Watch the ride!
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 05:00:24 PM: Quote from: 1-868 on November 11, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
:puking: :puking:

Anybody know where I could find a good friendly neighbourhood assassin??

Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

Ah been trying to warn yuh but like stick break in your ears.....now yuh seeing for yourself....is real shyte going on behind the scenes. This is just the tip of the iceberg my brother.....hold on tight, the ride will be long and difficult. And no, I am not an alarmist....yuh want details on what they trying in Tobago??

Tell we Brownie, dont hold back

Boy, for about 4 years now the people of Tobago have been meeting in community centres and school auditoriums discussing changes to the THA Act which would give Tobago more powers of internal self government. This process was initially started by a motion in the THA by none other than Ashworth Jack now leader of the TOP. So both parties signed off on the way forward and things got going. Fast forward to today and after all these meetings and back and forth and many amendments to the draft to be presented before the THA, Mr. Jack decide he eh want to be no part of that and no member of the TOP went to the debate on the bill when it was presented about 2 weeks ago.

But here is where things get curious. Up until May 2010, I wish I were making that up but no lie, Ashworth Jack had no problem with process being used and how things were being handled. Once the general elections were held, Mr. Jack changed his mind. Further, he is now insisting that the THA debate a Green Paper that was drawn up by the Cowboy X AG that had no input from Tobagonians and does not address some of the issues addressed in the draft put forward by Tobagonians themselves.

On top of that, Ashworth wants Orville London to go meet with Kamla and the AG before going forward on the matter......

So his tactic now is that he is not debating the draft bill saying it could have legal ramifications down road. He apparently thinks it should be debated as a motion. But I have a sneaky suspicion that even if its debated as a motion, Ashworth would find some other red herring to say why he can't support the motion.

Bottom line is he wants to be Chief Sec and is willing to bend over and acede to his PP masters to get the position, Tobago and what Tobagonians want be damned.

Here is the interesting thing though, apparently there is a clause in the THA Act that says if you reside in Tobago for 3 months you can register to vote in the THA elections (which I think are due in 2013). So ah hear, from a very good source, that little pockets of squatter settlements made up of people of East Indian descent from Trinidad have started to appear all across Tobago. hhhhhhmmmmm.......I wonder why.....maybe its because the island is so safe and clean and all those things you read in tourist brochures.......must be that cyar be anything else..... :-\
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Post by: Quags on November 11, 2011, 06:35:18 PM: those kids could help them hindus become less nerdy.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 12, 2011, 06:15:11 AM: Quote from: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: 1-868 on November 11, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 11, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
:puking: :puking:

Anybody know where I could find a good friendly neighbourhood assassin??

Quote from: dinho on November 11, 2011, 07:01:03 AM
Wow, that is madness...

Minister going down in the police station with Sat to push that agenda too?!

Wtf is this i seeing here.

Ah been trying to warn yuh but like stick break in your ears.....now yuh seeing for yourself....is real shyte going on behind the scenes. This is just the tip of the iceberg my brother.....hold on tight, the ride will be long and difficult. And no, I am not an alarmist....yuh want details on what they trying in Tobago??

Tell we Brownie, dont hold back

Boy, for about 4 years now the people of Tobago have been meeting in community centres and school auditoriums discussing changes to the THA Act which would give Tobago more powers of internal self government. This process was initially started by a motion in the THA by none other than Ashworth Jack now leader of the TOP. So both parties signed off on the way forward and things got going. Fast forward to today and after all these meetings and back and forth and many amendments to the draft to be presented before the THA, Mr. Jack decide he eh want to be no part of that and no member of the TOP went to the debate on the bill when it was presented about 2 weeks ago.

But here is where things get curious. Up until May 2010, I wish I were making that up but no lie, Ashworth Jack had no problem with process being used and how things were being handled. Once the general elections were held, Mr. Jack changed his mind. Further, he is now insisting that the THA debate a Green Paper that was drawn up by the Cowboy X AG that had no input from Tobagonians and does not address some of the issues addressed in the draft put forward by Tobagonians themselves.

On top of that, Ashworth wants Orville London to go meet with Kamla and the AG before going forward on the matter......

So his tactic now is that he is not debating the draft bill saying it could have legal ramifications down road. He apparently thinks it should be debated as a motion. But I have a sneaky suspicion that even if its debated as a motion, Ashworth would find some other red herring to say why he can't support the motion.

Bottom line is he wants to be Chief Sec and is willing to bend over and acede to his PP masters to get the position, Tobago and what Tobagonians want be damned.

Here is the interesting thing though, apparently there is a clause in the THA Act that says if you reside in Tobago for 3 months you can register to vote in the THA elections (which I think are due in 2013). So ah hear, from a very good source, that little pockets of squatter settlements made up of people of East Indian descent from Trinidad have started to appear all across Tobago. hhhhhhmmmmm.......I wonder why.....maybe its because the island is so safe and clean and all those things you read in tourist brochures.......must be that cyar be anything else..... :-\

nah. they does make ah wicked curry crab.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: kicker on November 14, 2011, 09:09:15 AM: Quote from: Quags on November 11, 2011, 06:35:18 PM
those kids could help them hindus become less nerdy.

:rotfl: ;D
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Post by: weary1969 on November 14, 2011, 09:23:26 AM: Fired OJT: Sat is an outright liar

By Renuka Singh

Trinidad Express

The On the Job (OJT) trainee who Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha general secretary Satnarine Maharaj dismissed after he saw her "panty-lines" is calling him an "outright liar".

Speaking to the Express under condition of anonymity on legal advice, she said she worked closely with ousted principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga at Tunapuna Hindu Primary School for just over six months, before they received Maharaj's letter calling for her removal.

"He got rid of me a year ago," she said in a telephone interview yesterday.

"How could he have said he saw my panty-line when we never even met? Someone should ask him to describe me. The man has never even seen me," she said.

The 19-year-old Roman Catholic was sent to the school by the OJT programme in January last year and said by July she was given two weeks' notice to leave the school.

"A letter was sent to the principal stating that she had installed a non-Hindu and I needed to be removed," she said.

"I cried. The principal cried. We just did not understand why he would do something like that.

"I am not the kind of person who wants to tango with these 'big named' men," she said, adding that something needed to be done to stop the race issue from spiralling out of control.

"Before this whole thing started I had such respect for the Prime Minister and now, it's like, why isn't she saying anything on this race issue?" she asked.

"It is bothering me that no one in authority is doing anything and he is allowed to get away with treating people like this because of their race and religion," she said.

But she was not the only one. As many as eight OJTs sent to the school were dismissed for various reasons, including race and religion.

"They did not feel the discrimination, but I was working close enough with the principal to feel it," she noted.

She said though she was "happy" that the country now knew about the situation, she felt "sorry" for Gajadharsingh-Nanga.

"She does not deserve to be treated like this. She is such a nice person," she said.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga was locked out of the school at the end of the last term in July. She has been barred from the compound by guards.

On Friday, Maharaj called a media conference to answer questions raised by Opposition MP Patricia McIntosh in Parliament. She noted the race and religion issue that was playing out at the primary school.

Maharaj denied being a racist and claimed he was the victim of political propaganda, used by the Opposition to buy votes.

The Ministry of Education is said to be investigating the matter and though Gajadharsingh-Nanga has been barred from the compound, she is still the official principal of the school.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: 1-868 on November 14, 2011, 04:10:33 PM: How could he have said he saw my panty-line when we never even met? Someone should ask him to describe me. The man has never even seen me," she said.

SAT IS A REAL PANTY MAN :beermug:
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Post by: bibbillpaul on November 14, 2011, 09:59:44 PM: I was speakiing to this guy ,he said because of the caste system MAHARAJ is the head of the Hindu leading players then the Singhs and it go on and on ,he was saying that is why tim nor no other Hindu person from the PP party could oppose him .

I dont know if this is true anybody with more info on the caste system .
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Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on November 15, 2011, 08:08:10 AM: Quote from: bibbillpaul on November 14, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
I was speakiing to this guy ,he said because of the caste system MAHARAJ is the head of the Hindu leading players then the Singhs and it go on and on ,he was saying that is why tim nor no other Hindu person from the PP party could oppose him .

I dont know if this is true anybody with more info on the caste system .

What caste system is there in Trinidad? This is Trinidad, not 1800s India.
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Post by: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 08:11:25 AM: Quote from: bibbillpaul on November 14, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
I was speakiing to this guy ,he said because of the caste system MAHARAJ is the head of the Hindu leading players then the Singhs and it go on and on ,he was saying that is why tim nor no other Hindu person from the PP party could oppose him .

I dont know if this is true anybody with more info on the caste system .

Read yuh history books and u will learn bout d Indian Mutiny of 1857. 1 of the causes of d mutiny was that soldiers had to travel by sea 2 Burma. It is a believe that once u travel by sea u loose yuh caste. So unless the indentured labourers digged a tunnel to get here every one of them lost their caste when they got here.

It is also aledge that they change they name 2 Maraj when they got here.
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Post by: capodetutticapi on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM: i go stay quiet...last time i say anything bout indian i was called a racist.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 10:14:20 AM: Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
i go stay quiet...last time i say anything bout indian i was called a racist.

U is a racist I iz a PNM no big ting
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Post by: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM: there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 11:24:55 AM: Quote from: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
i go stay quiet...last time i say anything bout indian i was called a racist.

U is a racist I iz a PNM no big ting

is there a difference :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: lefty on November 15, 2011, 11:36:24 AM: Quote from: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
i go stay quiet...last time i say anything bout indian i was called a racist.

U is a racist I iz a PNM no big ting

is there a difference :rotfl: :rotfl:
both synonymous with UNC\PP so apperantly not???
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 11:56:31 AM: Quote from: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 15, 2011, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 15, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
i go stay quiet...last time i say anything bout indian i was called a racist.

U is a racist I iz a PNM no big ting

is there a difference :rotfl: :rotfl:

Yeah Capo and I cyah b twins I luv LA he does not
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 15, 2011, 12:37:09 PM: Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...

Doh hold back soldier.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Controversial on November 15, 2011, 01:05:40 PM: Quote from: asylumseeker on November 15, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...

Doh hold back soldier.

i have heard of many cases of violence on both sides where people collect some blows ;)

violence don't solve anything in regards to racism...
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 01:33:36 PM: Quote from: Controversial on November 15, 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: asylumseeker on November 15, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...

Doh hold back soldier.

of course violence solves nothing...but oh gorm...when yuh young...

d sweetest blows i put down was when one ask me "what kinda flower yuh cud smell from miles away?"...after he give me the answer..well boy..ah beat that...

it was ah love for d mos part but blacks were so outnumbered that some indian students felt too comfortable making their remarks...teachers as well...when unc lost power in 2001 i think it was..one came to class and the first thing he did was watch me and threw up his hands and say "WELL YUH HAPPY NOW!!"..i didnt care one bit for politics at that time but it felt good rubbing it in them...so i stood up on the desk and with 2 pumped fists in d air ah scream PNMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

i have heard of many cases of violence on both sides where people collect some blows ;)

violence don't solve anything in regards to racism...
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Controversial on November 15, 2011, 01:39:54 PM: Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Controversial on November 15, 2011, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: asylumseeker on November 15, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...

Doh hold back soldier.

of course violence solves nothing...but oh gorm...when yuh young...

d sweetest blows i put down was when one ask me "what kinda flower yuh cud smell from miles away?"...after he give me the answer..well boy..ah beat that...

it was ah love for d mos part but blacks were so outnumbered that some indian students felt too comfortable making their remarks...teachers as well...when unc lost power in 2001 i think it was..one came to class and the first thing he did was watch me and threw up his hands and say "WELL YUH HAPPY NOW!!"..i didnt care one bit for politics at that time but it felt good rubbing it in them...so i stood up on the desk and with 2 pumped fists in d air ah scream PNMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

i have heard of many cases of violence on both sides where people collect some blows ;)

violence don't solve anything in regards to racism...

:D

it always amazed me to see how much the general public will buy into the divide and rule tactics of the 2 ruling parties

the best way to manipulate a population that is comprised of different ethnic groups is to keep them divided through propaganda and lies

i never bought into it, and never will, i think the general population need to realize politics is there to unite and progress, not divide, as what it is being used to do now.

sadly, some people don't grasp the complexity of it and never will, which leaves the politicians happy because they will manipulate them and control them
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: lefty on November 15, 2011, 01:50:25 PM: SHIT IS SHIT .............PNM SHIT ............UNC SHIT it smells one way.............. STINK...........and people who choose to stick dey head up d ass of cheap ethnic and partisan considerations,'cause someting doh effect dem in one parties term as opposed to d other are themselves mere SHIT to be discarded accordingly.

divided we are falling and we will continue to fall..............god help us
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 02:01:03 PM: Quote from: lefty on November 15, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
SHIT IS SHIT .............PNM SHIT ............UNC SHIT it smells one way.............. STINK...........and people who choose to stick dey head up d ass of cheap ethnic and partisan considerations,'cause someting doh effect dem in one parties term as opposed to d other are themselves mere SHIT to be discarded accordingly.

divided we are falling and we will continue to fall..............god help us

falling? boss yuh done fall and you eh even realize it yet. Good days in trinidad and Tobago gone - for good.

wait till the economy hit ah slide again and then you'll see SHIT!
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 02:02:41 PM: Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...

you know which ~~tree~~ indian to climb.

violence is not the key fella.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: lefty on November 15, 2011, 02:40:37 PM: Quote from: mal jeux on November 15, 2011, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: lefty on November 15, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
SHIT IS SHIT .............PNM SHIT ............UNC SHIT it smells one way.............. STINK...........and people who choose to stick dey head up d ass of cheap ethnic and partisan considerations,'cause someting doh effect dem in one parties term as opposed to d other are themselves mere SHIT to be discarded accordingly.

divided we are falling and we will continue to fall..............god help us

falling? boss yuh done fall and you eh even realize it yet. Good days in trinidad and Tobago gone - for good.

wait till the economy hit ah slide again and then you'll see SHIT!

who ent realize what, I in d middle of the hunt to find new sources ah revenue whole day... five days ah week........ there is no time for skin color games wit what we headed for...............dis economy is being held together by consumer spending............dat same "we cyah eat d money" nonsense we does say is what wholin it together.....................it ent have no time to be entertain adolf an' heinrich............my bad Sat an' Devant in dis shit, nip it and move on or appear to indorse it wit yuh silence and deal wit a nex thorn up yuh ass
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 16, 2011, 01:05:18 PM: PM: Racism will not be tolerated

Alleged discrimination at Hindu school

Trinidad express

PRIME Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar says if allegations of racial discrimination at the Tunapuna Hindu School prove to be true, they are "totally unacceptable" and "will not be tolerated".

"I am certain the Ministry of Education should do an investigation, (and) should those allegations be true, it is totally unacceptable; there should be no discrimination anywhere in this country," she added.

She was speaking with the media briefly yesterday,s following the launch of the Housing Development Corporation's Colour Me Orange project at the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre, Port of Spain,

The issue stemmed from an ongoing feud between the school's principal, Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, and the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) general secretary Satnarine Maharaj, the SDMS board and the school's PTA, with the SDMS claiming she was not upholding Hindu principles and must resign.

The impasse culminated two weeks ago, with Gajadharsingh-Nanga having to go to the school with police and fire officers after being locked out by school security guards.

In Parliament last week, People's National Movement (PNM) MP Patricia McIntosh produced a letter from the principal to the Teaching Service Commission, in which she charged that Maharaj had told her not to admit black children in the school. Maharaj has denied the allegation, saying he was being vilified by the media and the PNM as a "black hater", and the high Hindu population at the school was due to the catchment area.

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley has called on Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh to break his silence and condemned the SDMS for overstepping its bounds at the school.

In a telephone interview yesterday, Gopeesingh said, "I received the report from the two supervisors, a supervisor I and a supervisor II, who were selected by an independent administrative team at the Ministry of Education, and the report, which was completed on Friday, will be sent to the Teaching Service Commission today for them to look at and make recommendations on the way forward. "We are operating within the Constitution, with an independent Teaching Commis- sion, and we cannot act outside of that. To do so will be both illegal and wrong."

Persad-Bissessar said yesterday the Education Ministry would be conducting their investigations and "then we'll see what they have to say".
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: elan on November 16, 2011, 02:25:02 PM: Why she cyah hold a major press conference on this issue. Is this not a cause for major dialogue in the country? I guess appearances has a hierarchy.................
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Socapro on November 16, 2011, 02:35:45 PM: Quote from: elan on November 16, 2011, 02:25:02 PM
Why she cyah hold a major press conference on this issue. Is this not a cause for major dialogue in the country? I guess appearances has a hierarchy.................

More mamaguyism and politically correct sound bites once again!
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on November 19, 2011, 02:20:14 PM: SAT FEARS VIOLENCE
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_SAT_FEARS__VIOLENCE-134161178.html

By Kim Boodram
November 18, 2011
THE ousted principal of the Tunapuna Hindu School has been directed by her employer, the Teaching Service Commission, to report for duty on Monday.

But Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga will not receive a warm welcome, as the Education Board of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS), which operates the school, does not want her to return.

In response to the Commission's decision, SDMS secretary-general Satnarayan Maharaj said, "Of course we will keep her out. Even the Commission is saying and has acknowledged that the situation is volatile.

"This means they know that her presence will cause a violent reaction from the parents. They (parents) are very upset with her and they have driven us to this point," warned Maharaj.

In a telephone interview last night, Maharaj told the Express the Education Board of the SDMS is prepared to continue to prevent Gajadharsingh-Nanga from entering the school compound, as it believes her presence could ignite violence among hundreds of parents who, he said, wanted her out of the school.

Contacted at home yesterday, Gajadharsingh-Nanga said she had not yet been contacted by the Commission and was waiting on further instructions on whether she will be allowed to address the situation publicly.

Opposition MP Patricia McIntosh, who raised the issue in Parliament on November 9, said yesterday she was in agreement with the Commission's decision.

"It is a right ruling and the Ministry must now rein in Sat Maharaj. Why is he so untouchable?"

Maharaj said the SDMS is of the view that Gajadharsingh-Nanga should have been suspended from duty while investigations continue into her claim that he instructed her to keep children of African descent out of the school.

A dispute between Gajadharsingh-Nanga and the SDMS went public when McIntosh produced a letter from the principal to the Teaching Service Commission, requesting a transfer to a Government primary school.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga claimed she was locked out of the compound last month, after her non-compliance with Maharaj's instruction to refuse admission to children of African descent to the school.

In the letter, the principal also claimed to have been instructed to remove existing pupils of African descent and to refuse to accept trainees from the On-the-Job programme who were non-Indian and non-Hindu. Maharaj later denied issuing such instructions and accused Gajadharsingh-Nanga of lying.

In a full-page advertisement in today's newspapers, the Commission stated that it has instructed the Ministry of Education to allow Gajadharsingh-Nanga to continue as head of the school until its investigations are complete.

In a media release yesterday, Maharaj stated: "The Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha has referred this latest failure by State agencies to act in the interest of over 500 children at the school to our attorneys-at-law for possible legal action against agencies who have failed to discharge their duties.

"The Education Board of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha will move to protect our parents and children who continue to suffer because of inaction."
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 19, 2011, 02:34:33 PM: LOUDDDDDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SATTTTTTTTTTTTTT LOUDDDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: capodetutticapi on November 20, 2011, 01:11:36 PM: f**k that....HINDU PEOPLE IS RACIST.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 20, 2011, 09:02:58 PM: DON'T BLOCK HER
Tim to Sat on Tunapuna Hindu School principal:
By Kimberly Castillo

Story Created: Nov 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM ECT

The row between Tunapuna Hindu Primary School principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga and secretary-general of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Sat Maharaj entered another phase yesterday, with Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh's announcement that the principal must be allowed to resume her duties today.

At a news conference yesterday at the Ministry's head office in St Clair, he said his Ministry fully supports the ruling by the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) that she must go back to her job.

"Given that this matter was initially referred to the Teaching Service Commission for investigation, and in light of the fact that the said Commission is an independent institution of the State, the Ministry of Education must act according to the rulings of the Teaching Service Commission until it completes its investigations into this matter and delivers its final judgment," Gopeesingh said.

"Therefore its ruling that the principal should be allowed to resume her duties until otherwise directed is binding and will be supported by the Ministry of Education," he added.

On Saturday, the TSC, in a paid advertisement in the newspapers, said it had instructed the Ministry to allow Gajadharsingh-Nanga to report for work today. The TSC stated clearly that while the investigation was ongoing, Gajadharsingh-Nanga should carry out her duties as principal at the school.

The threat of violence was raised on Friday by Maharaj, who said he feared the principal's presence at the school could evoke a violent reaction from parents who wanted her out of the school.

He said, therefore, the education board of the SDMS was prepared to continue to prevent her from entering the school compound.

However, Gopeesingh said any act of violence will not be tolerated and the law will deal with any volatile situation, should the need arise.

"Regarding media reports of the alleged threat of violence in the matter, I want to make it abundantly clear that this is untenable and unacceptable and has no place, especially in the nation's schools and the wider society. This will not be tolerated in our schools," Gopeesingh stated emphatically.

He called for good sense to prevail by all parties directly involved in this matter, and also urged the SDMS board, parents and principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School to arrive at a peaceful compromise while a final decision is reached in this issue.

The Education Minister, Maha Sabha education board of management, Gajadharsingh-Nanga and the TSC will meet today at 11 a.m. at the Ministry of Education.

Prior to this, however, Gajadharsingh-Nanga is expected to take up her duties at the school from 8 a.m.

Gopeesingh also defended his handling of the situation, reiterating that from the very outset, the Education Ministry did not have a direct role in the matter.

The Maha Sabha board and the principal complained to the TSC—an independent institution of the State—and, as such, the TSC was mandated and legally empowered to conduct an investigation into the matter, he said.

"...I have a duty to ensure that no investigation into any matter in the education sector, including this one, is tainted by any comments from me or any other Ministry of Education official that would lend to the perception of bias in any form or fashion. I was executing my duties in a proper manner and for this I make no apologies," he said.

The controversial situation at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School gained nationwide attention on November 9, when People's National Movement MP Patricia McIntosh read a letter in Parliament which was written by Gajadharsingh-Nanga to the TSC earlier this year.

In the letter, the principal claimed she was ordered by Maharaj to block the enrollment of children of African ethnicity into the school.

She also alleged that Maharaj instructed her to remove any African children from the school and to reject trainees of the On-the-Job training programme who were non-Indian and non-Hindu.

Maharaj had denied this, saying he was being vilified as a "black hater". He counter-accused Gajadharsingh-Nanga of not ensuring Hindu prayers were said at the school and not enforcing a proper dress-code for teachers in the school.

On October 24, two school supervisors accompanied Gajadharsingh-Nanga to the school, but they were all denied entry.

They summoned the police to instruct the security guard to allow them entry. They also had to summon fire officers to break the locks of two doors to gain entry to the principal's office.

The next day, they returned again and were prevented from entering the compound. Sat Maharaj, accompanied by Transport Minister Devant Maharaj, then went to the Tunapuna Police Station to press charges against the principal, the two school supervisors and the police and the fire officers who had accompanied them to the school the previous day.

Chronology of events in the matter involving Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, principal, Tunapuna Hindu Primary School, and the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) board: June 17—Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga writes to the Teaching Service Commission (TSC), requesting a transfer to a Government primary school and making numerous allegations about the SDMS board. August 10—Secretary-general of the SDMS Sat Maharaj writes to the TSC, supporting Gajadharsingh-Nanga's request for a transfer and making allegations against her. August 22—Memorandum from the TSC to the Ministry of Education, seeking the Ministry's comments/recommendations with respect to: • Gajadharsingh-Nanga's request for a transfer; • the issue raised by both Gajadharsingh-Nanga and Maharaj; • a report submitted by the School Supervisor lll, St George East Regional Education District. August 30—Memorandum from the Ministry of Education to the TSC, stating comments on issues raised by the Commission. September 2—Memorandum from School Supervisor lll Mr Deoraj to the Permanent Secretary, advising that Gajadharsingh-Nanga reported for duty at the school. September 2—Letter from SDMS secretary-general to Gajadharsingh-Nanga, advising her to report for duty at the St George East Education District. September 26—Memorandum from Director of Personal Administration to the Ministry of Education, requesting that the Permanent Secretary take steps to ensure the principal be allowed to carry out her duties at the school. Further, if there are any allegations of misconduct against Gajadharsingh-Nanga, the Permanent Secretary is required to investigate these allegations and inform the Commission of the results immediately on conclusion of the investigation. October 14—Letter from the Ministry of Education to SDMS secretary-general, confirming that unless Gajadharsingh-Nanga is transferred or otherwise directed by the TSC, the Ministry and the SDMS have no authority to debar her from reporting for duty at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School. October 20—Letter from the TSC, dated October 20, 2011 (received by Ministry of Education on October 24), to the Ministry to conduct investigations into the matter. • Two school supervisors appointed by the Ministry to investigate the matter; • Reports given to Ministry on Friday, November 11; • Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Education, wrote to the TSC, through the Director of Personnel Administration (DPA), providing the report of the investigating officers on November 15, 2011. October 24—Gajadharsingh-Nanga, accompanied by School Supervisors lll and ll attached to the St George East Education District Office, went to the school but was blocked by security.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 05:00:47 AM: Listening to Tim and Kamla and all ah who pretending to be concerned and "will not tolerate racism" you would swear dem only know bout this yesterday eh. This story bruk out since June/July. And they (especially Tim as Edu Min.) did nothing about it.....steups!! bunch ah firetrucking jokers....
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:46 AM: D 12 o'clock news say d parents keeping the children home. D PTA president say it is not about race but that d Principal cloe down d computer room etc.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:44:22 AM: Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
D 12 o'clock news say d parents keeping the children home. D PTA president say it is not about race but that d Principal cloe down d computer room etc.

now that is BS. The chirren can't even watch manjula cook on youtube? Or 'like' Amita on fassbook?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM: Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 20, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
f**k that....HINDU PEOPLE IS RACIST.

distance yuhself all you want, you can't hide from that piece ah Hindu you have in yuh blood stream.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 11:54:54 AM: Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
D 12 o'clock news say d parents keeping the children home. D PTA president say it is not about race but that d Principal cloe down d computer room etc.

now that is BS. The chirren can't even watch manjula cook on youtube? Or 'like' Amita on fassbook?

:rotfl:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 12:37:27 PM: Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 20, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
f**k that....HINDU PEOPLE IS RACIST.

distance yuhself all you want, you can't hide from that piece ah Hindu you have in yuh blood stream.

considering it's been around since 1700 BC, and the world's oldest living religion, I'm sure we all have a piece in our bloodstream...

allyuh need to get off the race thing...it's people religion you talking about. If you mad at certain members of the Indian population say what yuh want; you have a free mind, but don't talk about religion.

Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
D 12 o'clock news say d parents keeping the children home. D PTA president say it is not about race but that d Principal cloe down d computer room etc.

now that is BS. The chirren can't even watch manjula cook on youtube? Or 'like' Amita on fassbook?

:rotfl:

yeah, would be better off they watch sum passa passa?
how about listen to some violent music instead...

::)

if there is some kind of discrimination in your belief, fighting back with more discrimination is not mature nor the way forward.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: lefty on November 21, 2011, 12:47:54 PM: Quote from: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
allyuh need to get off the race thing...

allyuh ??? ??? ??? .........what about d agenda dat being pushed from d shadows steups
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 01:10:51 PM: Quote from: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: capodetutticapi on November 20, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
f**k that....HINDU PEOPLE IS RACIST.

distance yuhself all you want, you can't hide from that piece ah Hindu you have in yuh blood stream.

considering it's been around since 1700 BC, and the world's oldest living religion, I'm sure we all have a piece in our bloodstream...

allyuh need to get off the race thing...it's people religion you talking about. If you mad at certain members of the Indian population say what yuh want; you have a free mind, but don't talk about religion.

Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:46 AM
D 12 o'clock news say d parents keeping the children home. D PTA president say it is not about race but that d Principal cloe down d computer room etc.

now that is BS. The chirren can't even watch manjula cook on youtube? Or 'like' Amita on fassbook?

:rotfl:

yeah, would be better off they watch sum passa passa?
how about listen to some violent music instead...

::)

if there is some kind of discrimination in your belief, fighting back with more discrimination is not mature nor the way forward.

que? Patel doh get your dhoti in a knot young fella.

what is passa passa?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 02:43:19 PM: Quote from: lefty on November 21, 2011, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
allyuh need to get off the race thing...

allyuh ??? ??? ??? .........what about d agenda dat being pushed from d shadows steups

not intended for everyone, just the ones I quoted....

Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
que? Patel doh get your dhoti in a knot young fella.

what is passa passa?

passa passa is found along with manjula on youtube and amita on facebook
that's my point that you continue with your Patel comment...it shows ignorance...grow up
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on November 21, 2011, 02:44:15 PM: Right thinking members of the faith and especially the parents of pupils at the school need to be more vocal here. Quite frankly Sat has thrown them under the bus with his remarks. Now I didn't hear the report but it seems that the PTA who has up to this point remained silent is not doing itself any favours either. Sat never raised that issue (computer room) at all and furthermore if the PTA did in fact support the blocking of the principal why didn't they support Sat. It stands to reason that Sat heard of the OJTs story rather than witnessed it first hand, I'm just saying.

There is a lot of room for speculation and name calling. What is clear however is that Sat has no respect for the legitimate state authorities responsible for the education sector and has persecuted an employee of the state. I'm not sure how this is not in infringement on the rights of a worker if not totally illegal and that is even if we accept Sat's account of the tale, he still wrong.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM: Mouth open, story jumping out on I95.5 fm right now!!! The contents of a letter from the Principal to the SDMS board earlier this year is being read out. Is all kinda madness going on in this place yes!!!!...
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on November 21, 2011, 04:09:27 PM: Quote from: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Mouth open, story jumping out on I95.5 fm right now!!! The contents of a letter from the Principal to the SDMS board earlier this year is being read out. Is all kinda madness going on in this place yes!!!!...

Such as?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 05:35:42 PM: Quote from: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: lefty on November 21, 2011, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: ProudTrinbagonian on November 21, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
allyuh need to get off the race thing...

allyuh ??? ??? ??? .........what about d agenda dat being pushed from d shadows steups

not intended for everyone, just the ones I quoted....

Quote from: mal jeux on November 21, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
que? Patel doh get your dhoti in a knot young fella.

what is passa passa?

passa passa is found along with manjula on youtube and amita on facebook
that's my point that you continue with your Patel comment...it shows ignorance...grow up

your progressive leader Sat blocked us from youtube. Say we adopting non-hindu traits. thanks to the almighty I'm a muslim indian oui. does that make me a madinga?

btw your passa passa statement have racial undertones as you asserted mine had. but you're a grown fella without ignorance so thats ok.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 07:28:07 PM: Quote from: Bourbon on November 21, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Mouth open, story jumping out on I95.5 fm right now!!! The contents of a letter from the Principal to the SDMS board earlier this year is being read out. Is all kinda madness going on in this place yes!!!!...

Such as?

CO-SIGNNNNNN doh leave we hanging
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on November 21, 2011, 09:11:55 PM: Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Bourbon on November 21, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Mouth open, story jumping out on I95.5 fm right now!!! The contents of a letter from the Principal to the SDMS board earlier this year is being read out. Is all kinda madness going on in this place yes!!!!...

Such as?

CO-SIGNNNNNN doh leave we hanging
From what I remember.

Well the same problem they had with the two non-indian OJTs

SDMS staff throw mud and manure on her car during Phagwa celebrations

Some other children decided to wash it off with hoses and SDMS threatened to publish pictures claiming the principal was encouraging child labour

There is a teacher that often is missing from class while he at the radio station on the same compound .The principal was cursed out by the board and told that when the said teacher was at the radio station that she should consider him in class.

During her time as Pricipal SEA performance has improved and demand for new entrants has increased.

The school supervisor who of course is an employee of the MoE apparently has a very close relationship with the board.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 09:18:14 PM: Quote from: Jah Gol on November 21, 2011, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Bourbon on November 21, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Brownsugar on November 21, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Mouth open, story jumping out on I95.5 fm right now!!! The contents of a letter from the Principal to the SDMS board earlier this year is being read out. Is all kinda madness going on in this place yes!!!!...

Such as?

CO-SIGNNNNNN doh leave we hanging
From what I remember.

Well the same problem they had with the two non-indian OJTs

SDMS staff throw mud and manure on her car during Phagwa celebrations

Some other children decided to wash it off with hoses and SDMS threatened to publish pictures claiming the principal was encouraging child labour

There is a teacher that often is missing from class while he at the radio station on the same compound .The principal was cursed out by the board and told that when the said teacher was at the radio station that she should consider him in class.

During her time as Pricipal SEA performance has improved and demand for new entrants has increased.

The school supervisor who of course is an employee of the MoE apparently has a very close relationship with the board.

I heard d latest is that she can return pending d transfer. All these board people now want transfer 2 govt schools. Dat wrong because pentecostals for eg cyah get a wuk in dem school so dey ltd in their choices.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:51:13 PM: Sat, principal in deal
Principal returns to work...while she seeks transfer
By Renuka Singh

The potentially volatile stand-off between the Education Board of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) and the principal assigned to the Tunapuna Hindu School entered yet another phase yesterday, with both sides reaching an agreement.

Following two hours of conciliation talks mediated by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh between the SDMS Education Board and the Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers' Association (TTUTA), representing principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, a decision was reached to allow the principal to return to work today.

The SDMS Education Board, which was represented by secretary general of the SDMS Satnarayan Maharaj, has agreed to support the principal's return.

The principal will continue to preside at the SDMS school until her request to be transferred to a government primary school is approved by the Teaching Service Commission.

The principal had been in a standoff with Maharaj for over five months with allegations and counter-allegations being made by both parties.

The Commission last Friday directed the principal, who had been locked out of the school, to return today.

But protesting parents led by the school's PTA president Ishwar Mutoo erected banners and posters on the perimeter fence and main gate vowing to pull their children from the school if the principal returns.

At the school's compound white tarpaulin was stretched across the main gate calling Gajadharsingh-Nanga a "Traitor to Dharma", several posters listing her alleged misdeeds at the school were also stuck along the interior perimeter wall of the school compound, where curious pupils moved from sign to sign reading their parents' views on their principal's behaviour.

Gates to the classrooms remained locked and as many as 500 pupils were forced to return home shortly after 9 a.m. yesterday.

"We will prevent our children from coming to this school if she returns," Muttoo said. "We are prepared to shut down the school," he said.

Mutoo said he was calling on Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to step in, because Gopeesingh was being "misguided" in this matter.

"If the school supervisors were doing their jobs in the two-and-half years, they would have known what was going on in the school. They would have known that the reading room was not functioning, that stationery was stocked up and not being used," he said.

Commenting on the outcome of the conciliation meeting, Gopeesingh said the agreement included the principal's request for transfer to a government school and Maharaj's promise to "do all within his power" to encourage parents to accept the agreement.

"The Ministry of Education has agreed to hold discussions with the Teaching Service Commission on this matter (the request for transfer)," Gopeesingh said.

"A School Supervisor III, to be determined by the ministry, will be directly responsible to ensure satisfactory return of the principal and the day-to-day management of the school in conjunction with the SDMS board," he said.

Gopeesingh said his ministry would hold discussions with the TSC on the matter of the transfer.

The signed agreement, which was written by Gopeesingh, effectively gagged all parties from speaking publicly on the matter.

The Express learned the transfer may be approved as early as next term, but with the level of discontent prevalent at the school, there is a concern that it might not be soon enough.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:53:31 PM: Rowley: Govt allowed it to get out of hand
By Ria Taitt Political Editor

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yesterday slammed Government for allowing the situation at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School to get to the stage it had, stating that Government felt "beholden to a vote-bank" allegedly controlled by Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha secretary general Satnarayan Maharaj.

The Opposition Leader appealed to the entire Hindu community to urge Sat Maharaj and those who support him not to go down this road. Rowley called on the authorities to ensure that the school is opened today with principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga there with her charges, allowing teaching to take place.

"There ought not to be a situation where Tunapuna Hindu School is closed. That means the children are not at school, the teachers are not at work, the principal remains away from her job. That means that original problem that caused this development is holding sway.

"That means that the ministry has been unable to do what the Teaching Service Commission says the ministry must do, which is to make sure that the circumstances are such that the teacher (principal) can walk in there this morning and continue her duty. And I find this very worrisome.

"There ought to be no situation today where the school is closed," he said at a news conference at his Charles St office.

Told that there was a sign on the school gate saying that the principal was a traitor to her dharma, Rowley said: "You'll understand what I am saying. This thing that started as behind-closed-doors difference of opinion or unfair action on the part of one individual to another, you see where it has reached.

"I hope when the broadcast appears on BBC news that in Trinidad and Tobago these kinds of developments (are taking place)—children can't go to school—and we are compared with what happened in Northern Ireland and Lebanon and where else in the world where people have come to grief, I hope the silent majority will realise that they have to raise their voices now against this outrage.

"This is an outrage which must not be tolerated by the decent people of Trinidad and Tobago. It should never have come to this. If the Government had acted definitely and expeditiously at the beginning. But the Government chose not to act because office-holders in this Government see themselves as beholden to the vote bank supposedly controlled by Sat Maharaj.

"And that is why the Minister of Education had not acted (sooner), why the Prime Minister did not intervene before and why the leader of the COP (Prakesh Ramadhar) made the stupid statement that he did about (political parties ie PNM) playing the race card, when in fact what we were dealing with was an administrative resistance to the laws of Trinidad and Tobago."

He added, however, that there was some light at the end of this tunnel. He cited the position taken by the Prime Minister that if charges of racial discrimination were true, then it was unacceptable and should not be tolerated.

He also welcomed statements by Minister of Education, Dr Tim Gopeesingh, condemning any threat of violence and also his support for the ruling of the Teaching Service Commission that the principal should not be blocked from resuming her duties at the school.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 21, 2011, 10:54:40 PM: Pundit: Parents were pushed

"I am not trying to interpret what the parents did, but if they did make a statement like 'Traitor to Dharma' it probably could mean that the principal denied certain privileges to the children."

This according to Pundit Lutchmidath Persad Maharaj, public relations officer of the Pandits Parishaad of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha, when asked to interpret the banner yesterday.

"In Hinduism, one of the fundamental pillars is the education of our children. There is even a goddess assigned to inspire children with the acquisition of knowledge.

"What I believe, from my interaction in meetings, is that the principal had prevented the children from using the library facilities, she shut down the computer lab, she prevented the children from accessing books which the government provided for many years.

"The government had sent new furniture. The parents have been complaining about the dilapidated state of the furniture and she had the new furniture locked away in rooms. My humble interpretation, and I'm not saying that this is the interpretation of the Maha Sabha, would have been that the parents saw her as preventing the children from accessing educational opportunities which in itself is unrighteous," he said.

"With the preschool she did not implement the proper processes with the teaching of the prayer which is a very essential and fundamental part of the Maha Sabha school," he said.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: elan on November 22, 2011, 07:26:31 AM: Anyone could tell me where in T&T the Catholic school is? The one that does only take Catholic and Catholic tecahers? By the way are Catholics Black, white, mulatto, etc?

Also the Baptist schools that only allow baptist students, I kinda like how they do things? Anybody?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on November 22, 2011, 12:22:24 PM: This is curious.

On news last night....it mentioned SEVERAL parents brought their children to school yesterday...but found it closed.

In the words of the PTA president "Even if the school wasnt closed....there would be no school anyway."

And den in papers...you read this:

Quote

But protesting parents led by the school's PTA president Ishwar Mutoo erected banners and posters on the perimeter fence and main gate vowing to pull their children from the school if the principal returns.

At the school's compound white tarpaulin was stretched across the main gate calling Gajadharsingh-Nanga a "Traitor to Dharma", several posters listing her alleged misdeeds at the school were also stuck along the interior perimeter wall of the school compound, where curious pupils moved from sign to sign reading their parents' views on their principal's behaviour.

Gates to the classrooms remained locked and as many as 500 pupils were forced to return home shortly after 9 a.m. yesterday.

"We will prevent our children from coming to this school if she returns," Muttoo said. "We are prepared to shut down the school," he said.

Interesting. I doh know if it correct for me to infer that the PTA head leading the instigations and the perception that the parents against the teachers. To me the next question if that inference is correct would be.....why? Encouragment by Sat?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: elan on November 22, 2011, 01:31:04 PM: The Black men with the LONG tail coming for them. Bahhahahhaaaaaaa
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on November 22, 2011, 02:27:21 PM: Quote from: Bourbon on November 22, 2011, 12:22:24 PM
This is curious.

On news last night....it mentioned SEVERAL parents brought their children to school yesterday...but found it closed.

In the words of the PTA president "Even if the school wasnt closed....there would be no school anyway."

And den in papers...you read this:

Quote

But protesting parents led by the school's PTA president Ishwar Mutoo erected banners and posters on the perimeter fence and main gate vowing to pull their children from the school if the principal returns.

At the school's compound white tarpaulin was stretched across the main gate calling Gajadharsingh-Nanga a "Traitor to Dharma", several posters listing her alleged misdeeds at the school were also stuck along the interior perimeter wall of the school compound, where curious pupils moved from sign to sign reading their parents' views on their principal's behaviour.

Gates to the classrooms remained locked and as many as 500 pupils were forced to return home shortly after 9 a.m. yesterday.

"We will prevent our children from coming to this school if she returns," Muttoo said. "We are prepared to shut down the school," he said.

Interesting. I doh know if it correct for me to infer that the PTA head leading the instigations and the perception that the parents against the teachers. To me the next question if that inference is correct would be.....why? Encouragment by Sat?

I will repeat my call for right thinking members of the faith to come out and condemn the actions of the sdms and now the PTA. This looking real bad .Capo made a statement that was an unfair generalization of the larger group of people but this is a clear indication of the policy of the leadership of the largest Hindu body in the country.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: congo on November 22, 2011, 05:12:58 PM: We not on a State of Emergency. How those parents allowed to protests and gather?? :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: mukumsplau on November 22, 2011, 07:42:45 PM: heard david muhammad read out ad verbatim some of the things that were uttered from sat's mouth...my word...digging into several black figures who he percieved to be anti-goverment...from morgan job (a lot a lot of derogatory stuff was said), jennfer baptiste (prime ASS), natalee legore (sees a marijuana plant when he sees her), etc etc there were some others...and this man has the backing of kamla and her cabal
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: sammy on November 23, 2011, 06:20:09 AM: wow, did Sat emerge last year?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 26, 2011, 10:37:29 PM: Sat: I love Black people
“My wish is that our people would live together”
Published: Sun, 2011-11-27 20:47

Q: Mr Maharaj, what do you have against Black people?
A: (A brief astonished expression then a burst of laughter at his Radio Jagriti office off the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway in Tunapuna on Wednesday morning) I love Black people, they are some of the most attractive of our citizens. What I detest is ignorance.

In what context?
Total political ignorance; ignorant about the facts, ignorant of things that they know nothing about, and those who are totally influenced by the negative aspects of the politics of the land.

So those who label you a racist are ignorant?
Not only are they ignorant, they themselves are the racists. They try to throw this on somebody else. Each one of us has natural affinities to our clan, to our communities, to our religion but we don’t use that as a measuring rod for our relationship with other people.

An accusation levelled against you Mr Maharaj, is that you have said if any of your children should marry a Black person you would disown them?
That, my friend, is a total and absolute fabrication.

You can swear to that on the Bhagavad Gita?
I swear by the (raised voice)... I, uh…why should I have to swear to anybody? Why do I have to swear to you or anybody else? I have never said that! What I said is if my daughter marries somebody who the family doesn’t approve of we reserve the right to accept or reject...and that still holds. And that is the case with many families in this country; not only Hindu families...the right to accept or reject.

What do you feel is the cause of this constant vilification of Sat Maharaj?
They need somebody...you see, for the PNM to survive it needs the Black/Indian divide to exist, for they cannot survive because they have no policy, no programmes that can attract people back to their party. What they should be doing is talking about their plans for the future.

What do you mean they have no policy or programme, what about the Vision 2020?
(Throwing his arms wide open) What vision? That was a backward vision which they picked up from the waste paper basket of other countries. Since Dr Eric Williams, nobody in that party has had any vision. None whosoever! Their only vision is to rape the treasury.

Mr Maharaj, weren’t you once a strong supporter of the PNM, actually speaking on their platform?
(He explains he parted with the PNM immediately after the 1981 general election campaign during which the PNM had mounted an “Ah Fraid Karl” strategy instilling imaginary fears in the electorate against Karl Hudson-Philips,QC, then political leader of the Organisation for National Reconstruction). That was sufficient because of the fear they aimed against Mr Hudson-Phillips; The same modus operandi the PNM is relying on today. Total fabrication! Fear, racial fear.

In this imbroglio at the Tunapuna Hindu School an agreement was reached that nobody should speak publicly about it?
(Interrupting) No. No. The agreement is no party will attack the other party, right? Maybe I should give you a copy of the agreement. (He pulls out two copies of the accord which was hand written by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh who brokered the deal) This is the handwriting of the minister, which states in part: “TTUTA has categorically denied making any charge of racism against the SDMS and the SDMS has also categorically denied any racism in any of their schools.” The principal was right there when the matter was being discussed.

Did she deny making that statement?
Well, she signed the document, too. She signed it.

Do you agree with the criticism levelled against Dr Gopeesingh that he failed to act in the dispute which allowed it to get out of hand?
Total falsehood. I mean, the same people are saying the Teaching Service Commission has the authority...not the Minister of Education. All the authority he has is what he did in bringing the parties together to effect conciliation. MP McIntosh raised this in the Parliament. Did she first bring it to your attention, particularly the charges levelled against you before taking it to the legislature? Mrs McIntosh told a lot of lies in the legislature in this matter, and I want to tell you that we have written the Speaker of the House this morning requesting that our side of the story be placed into the Hansard (The verbatim record of debates in the Parliament).

Clevon, what is absolutely stunning is that this honourable lady never bothered to take up the telephone and make some simple inquiries to ascertain if these allegations levelled against me by the principal were true. I just cannot believe that kind of conduct from someone aspiring to high political office. She never made any attempt to send anybody here to check the veracity of the claim that I do not want African children in our school. Deliberate lies! They are not mere fabrications.

Mr Maharaj, is it fair to accuse Mrs McIntosh?
(A sharp interjection, shaking a finger at Raphael’s face) Listen Clevon, stop there man! Let me finish! You don’t guide this discussion. If you go to the Enterprise Hindu School you will find 70 per cent of the pupils of African descent. Seventy-per cent! The dynamics have changed. Right in this school 55 Afro-Trinis are on the roll. Further, in September 1952, when the Tunapuna Hindu School—which was located in a temple next to the Royal Castle outlet—opened, the first pupil admitted was an Afro-Trini who went on to become the principal of the El Dorado Secondary School.

There are 300 children of African descent at the Sangre Grande Hindu School. She is trying to create a racial problem, not trying to find out if there is a racial problem. If she had gone to Arima Hindu School 60 per cent are Afro-Trinis.

These are hard, undisputable facts?
Clevon, I am not manufacturing that. Go and see for yourself and talk to the principal rather than talking to me.

If race is not the issue what exactly is the genesis of this problem, something personal between you and the principal?
We signed this agreement which says that none of us will pursue it further, but if you look at our complaints against the principal you will get an idea why we are so upset. However, there are two other primary schools in this area where the principals are laws unto themselves, the boards have no control over them and I think they have been trying to influence the negatives the principal here want to indulge in.

This current imbroglio has resurrected the debate on whether the Concordat with the Government and the denominational boards should be scrapped. Which side of the argument are you on?
Scrap it? The Concordat has worked well for Trinidad and Tobago but some people believe that it is just a sheet of paper that was signed many years ago. That is not the Concordat. It is also all the conventions in the education system that have been developed since then.

You are aware Mrs McIntosh is in favour of having another look at the Concordat?
Because she has nothing to lose. She has not built a school, she has not developed a community, and she is now trying to mislead a whole country.

So where do you go from here?
The agreement has been signed, and she is to be reassigned so that is now history. Look Clevon, you are now on the compound of the school. Do you hear a sound coming out of that school where there are more than 400 pupils? That is discipline…total discipline.

What sort of danger do you see if the accord should be done away with?
The country would suffer because you would lose a whole cadre of people with experience in running schools. Running a school is not just teaching and writing. Every morning we teach the children to pray, to respect authority. And when you come here at 8.30 in the morning you will hear the children praying together, singing the bhajans together. Part of the problem in the school system is the breakdown in discipline, students becoming pregnant…why didn’t she speak out against those ills?

Mr Maharaj, I wish you will not use this forum to attack the goodly lady in her absence, as it were? (An incredulous stare) She attacked me! She didn’t talk to the Maha Sabha! Nobody spoke to us and she attacked us behind our backs at 10 o’clock in the night in the Parliament. So what you are trying to tell me? Look Clevon, don’t let us fall out here today. (Laughs) Fair is fair. You don’t expect me to stay here and take verbal blows based on complete falsehood and do not respond.

Mr Maharaj, in spite of whatever your detractors might say you have indeed contributed to national development. What is your greatest wish for the land of your birth at this time?
My wish is that our people would live together. We will share the good times together, we will share bad times together. When the floods come we all cry together, and when the oil starts flowing again we would all benefit together. I am a Trinidadian more than to the bone...a Trini to the marrow. The politician from time to time try to create problems and tensions. But go to the countryside and you will be amazed to see how we all live as one.

Mr Maharaj, all your life you have been a magnet for controversy—you have just turned 80—when would your controversial persona end?
(Face lit up and in a very animated state) It will come to an end when I am taken to the banks of the Caroni River for cremation. I built that specially for me (thumping his chest). You better believe that, others are using it right now (a large smile), but that was built for me. I told my wife (deceased), I told my friends I want to be cremated there. I grew up on the banks of that river and that cremation site is where I am going to end my days.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 27, 2011, 02:53:46 AM: Govt must rethink the 1960 Concordat
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2003

by George Alleyne, Newsday/TT

Government must rethink the Concordat which the Roman Catholic Church, then headed by the powerful Archbishop Count Finbar Ryan, pressured it to agree to in 1960. Dr Eric Williams, then Premier of Trinidad and Tobago, smarting under the six-four defeat his Party, the People's National Movement, had received from the Democratic Labour Party in the March 25, 1958 Federal Elections, feared that opposition from the Church may have led to a further defeat in the 1961 General Election.

He had been witness to that opposition in the run-up to the General Election of September 24, 1956, when Roman Catholic priests had attacked the PNM from the pulpit up to the day before the election. Indeed, on Sunday, September 23, a newspaper featuring on its front page a statement by a priest, juxtaposed the photographs of Williams and the late Nazi dictator, Adolf Hitler. But the concerns of the Church (incidentally, the Catholics had been joined by other religious groups) were understandable. Finbar Ryan wanted to continue the old British and European custom of maintaining the Church's commanding position in education, even when that position was funded by taxpayers' money.

Williams had clearly preferred the approach of the United States, which in the late 19th century had banned the running and/or the subsidising of parochial schools with taxpayers' funds. The Irish-born Archbishop Ryan was British or European in his thinking with respect to primary and secondary education and Trinidad and Tobago was still a British colony. It was a thinking that ran contrary to that enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in 1779, who had urged "a crusade against ignorance" in his insistence on State-funded, State-run schools. Continued Jefferson: "The tax which will be paid for this purpose is not more than a thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles, who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance." Williams would, however, yield for what to him were pragmatic reasons.

Although the Concordat would not be wholly a victory for the Church, the Church, indeed all religions and sects, which controlled secondary schools, would be allowed to select 20 per cent of the persons entering their schools annually 'based' on the then 11-plus examination. The first line of discrimination, which would emerge, would be based on religion, or was it a mixture of religion and privilege? It ran counter to the philosophy of United States President Lyndon B Johnson's Head Start programme, which he had created in 1965. Admittedly, Johnson's Head Start was for pre-schoolers and ran in the summer months, rather than year round. But it was essentially for children of lower income families, and aimed at giving them a needed opportunity of achieving success later in school, primary, and secondary.

Many children of lower income families were nudged aside in the application of the powers conferred by the State-Church arrangement, and those receiving the Head Start under the Concordat were instead sons and daughters of far better positioned middle and upper middle income families. It was clearly unjust and deprived many a bright schoolchild of a deserved chance at upward mobility. Government should and must move with despatch to deal with this cruel absurdity of privilege conferred. There must be a rethink of the Concordat, not to see in what way it can be improved, but rather how quickly it can be consigned to the dustbin of history.

Nothing which I have written should be construed to mean that I am anti any of the religions, which took part in the creation of the Concordat, and whose well positioned members' sons and daughters benefited, if not by any education opportunity gained, at least simply by being there. Or was their merely occupying seats at what so many love to call prestige schools a genuine benefit? What of the forced price paid by those who have been marginalised by the Concordat? Government should set a date for the end of this system. I will not suggest a date, though my preference is for this year's SEA examinations to be the last under which the system of privilege continues, admission wise.

Taxpayers' money should not be employed to fund and maintain privilege. Instead, there should be equality of opportunity for all. Schoolchildren should be able to gain access to the schools of their choice, not on the basis of who their fathers are, or what their religion is, but on marks gained in the SEA through "toiling upwards in the night". Was it not the economist W W Rostow, who would say in an article - The Take-off Into Self-Sustained Growth - published in the Economic Journal of March, 1956, two months after Dr Williams launched his People's National Movement: "Education, for some at least, broadens and changes to suit the needs of modern economic activity." For the past 42 years and more the "some" did not include the Concordat marginalised sons and daughters of lower income families, save perhaps for the odd case here and there. The Finbar Ryans of this world have had their say. It is time for the nation to 'cut its losses' and move on.

http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/selfnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1047457908,74990,.shtml
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 27, 2011, 02:55:40 AM: Misrepresenting the Concordat
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2003

By Stephen Kangal, Caroni

I reluctantly intervene to correct certain misrepresentations contained in George Alleyne's commentary on the 1960 Concordat (Newsday March 12, p.10).

Let it me state quite categorically that:

-The annual 20% intake of students facility accorded to Denominational Secondary Schools (DSS) drawn from the CE/ SEA's Pass List as provided in the Concordat did not discriminate against children of poor families in favour of those of the privileged middle/upper class when one considers the objective criteria of the selection process. Students so selected must pass the CE/SEA and must have placed the school in question as their first choice. With the current universal secondary education in force the 20% pales into insignificance as a non-issue.

-The Concordat or denominationalism did not contribute to inequality of educational opportunity but to the very opposite since the building of DSS and primary schools in the rural/ extra-East West Corridor areas that were neglected by the British and the PNM regimes until 1975 substantially increased the opportunities for secondary education. What contributes to inequality of educational opportunity is the building of the Library Complex in Port of Spain instead of 8 smaller libraries across the nation.

-The Concordat was a compromise reached by the Christian Churches in 1960 with late Premier Dr. Williams who wanted to nationalise all DSS and bring them under State control to facilitate his free secondary education programme. The late Archbishop Ryan should not be accused falsely on mere uninformed speculation.

-The Concordat introduced a moratorium on the building of DSS post -1960. The UNC disbanded this moratorium in 1995- 2001 and the PNM re-introduced it in 2001 although the DSS have been outperforming the state schools at lesser costs in the efficient delivery of quality education.

The DSS are not prestige but high performance schools being the first choice of the best students who wrote the CE.

How, Mr. Alleyne can the 1960 Concordat run counter to a later 1965 Johnson Head Start programme? Mr. Alleyne must learn to curb his penchant for citing American experiences/policies that are not even remotely related to the subject in hand.

Let it be known that there are more notorious and important promotions/ inequality of employment issues institutionalised in the Concordat that cannot be terminated with a wave of the hand since the practice on which the Concordat is based is now the prevailing norm with the denominational boards/churches in a strong bargaining position.

http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/selfnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1048051009,40360,.shtml
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 27, 2011, 03:06:48 AM: Red herring from Hazel
Trinidad Guardian
Thursday 16th March 2006
Sat Maharaj

Rather than deal with the objections raised by the Association of Denominational Boards to her ministry’s new Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), the Minister of Education, Senator Hazel Manning, has introduced the red herring of accountability.

The boards and churches point to the fact that there is in place an agreement between church and State governing their relationship. It is called the Concordat which was signed in 1960. If there is need for new arrangements, changes could be made to the Concordat.

The Trinidad Guardian of May 18, 1955, quoted Dr Eric Williams as saying: “I see in the denominational school the breeding ground of disunity. I see in the state school the opportunity for cultivating a spirit of nationalism among West Indian people and eradicating the racial suspicions and antagonisms growing in our midst. I place the community above sect or the race.”

When the People’s National Movement (PNM) came to power one year later in 1956, the reality of T&T and the world, especially the United States’ influence, caused Prime Minister Williams to rethink his position.

Carl C Campbell, professor of history at the Jamaica campus of the University of the West Indies, wrote a book titled Endless Education—Main Currents in the Education System of Modern Trinidad and Tobago, 1939-1986. In it he analysed Williams’ compromise on church education:

“Although he was a determined politician, Dr Williams knew how to compromise; and one analyst has characterised his policies as ‘accommodative in design and compromising in execution.’ The question has been raised whether this was deliberate strategy or the result of an ambivalent personality.

“Whatever its origin, it enabled Williams to play politics with his opponents instead of insisting on some inflexible predetermined policy. This was part of the secret of his retention of political power for a generation.

“In education policy, for example, the accommodation reached with the churches in the Concordat of December 1960 went a long way in attenuating clerical grievances until 1965.

“Even a measure of accommodation with the Indians under Dr Capildeo was arrived at in respect to the making of the independence constitution; and then came the struggle between Indians and the PNM for the spoils of office in the highly charged election of 1961. Dr Williams won a resounding victory.”

Neither Prime Minister Patrick Manning nor his Minister of Education have the breath nor vision of Williams who is their political guru. But the Mannings know the art of compromise in the interest of the nation’s children and national stability and unity.

The Concordat of 1960 has been revisited and revised twice. In 1979 the Gocking Committee held extensive meetings and submitted recommendations. Dr Williams then appointed a Cabinet foursome of Dr Cuthbert Joseph (Minister of Education), Kamaluddin Mohammed, Mervyn de Souza and George Chambers to meet with the boards.

Subsequently, Victor Bruce, governor of the Central Bank was appointed to refine the relationship. The “Bruce Report” has disappeared but the funding ratio for repairs and rebuilding of new primary schools was changed from 66 2/3-33 1/3 to 75-25 per cent. The larger percentage was Government’s contribution.

Again in 1998 Cabinet appointed a “joint committee to examine the relationship between the Government of Trinidad and Tobago and the denominational boards of education.”

It advised the Prime Minister that it “met on a weekly basis since our appointment on October 30, 1998. We had input from all members appointed to the committee as well as the organisations that they represented. We also had very valuable contributions from members that were co-opted.”

Minister of Education Hazel Manning on January 26 told the Senate:

“We have just taken to Cabinet and got approval of a Memorandum of Understanding, as we have begun to implement the Concordat. For the first time in the history of the country since 1962, the Concordat is now an 18-page document line by line, sentence by sentence, word by word negotiated by the boards.”

Subsequent to this statement, the minister met with the Maha Sabha and other boards to discuss the MOU, not the Concordat. In fact her meeting with the Maha Sabha was on February 3 and we advised that we will deal through the Association of Denominational Boards.

We must conclude that those meetings were in bad faith since a Cabinet meeting had already approved the new MOU.

http://legacy.guardian.co.tt/archives/2006-03-16/sat.html
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 27, 2011, 03:10:48 AM: The power of church school boards
By Dana Seetahal
Trinidad Express
Nov 25, 2011

The controversy surrounding the attempted removal of the principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School has raised the issue of how the Education Act and the Concordat deal with public denominational schools.

In 1960 the then government signed a Concordat (Agreement) assuring what was termed the "Preservation and Character" of denominational schools. The government had agreed to partially take over several of the established religious schools. These were later designated "assisted" schools in the Education Act. Some schools remained "private", wholly controlled by boards of the particular religious bodies that had created them. Over time some of these private schools have converted to assisted schools.

An assisted school is a public school. An assisted school must have a board of management that consists of persons appointed by the authority which established the school for the purpose of exercising the control of the school. The government provides funds to the boards of management of assisted schools for building, extension, rebuilding, equipment and facilities. There are both secondary and primary assisted schools. The Tunapuna Hindu School is an assisted school.

Under the Concordat it was agreed that in denominational schools (unless the denomination concerned otherwise gives its consent) the religion of the particular denomination which owns the school will be taught exclusively and by teachers professing to belong to that denomination. By contrast, in government schools all recognised religious denominations have access through their accredited representatives for the teaching of religion to the pupils belonging to their faith. The Concordat makes it clear that pupils attending the schools of a denomination not of their own faith will not be compelled to take part in the religious exercises or lessons of that denomination.

It is evident, therefore, that the Concordat envisaged that persons of any faith/religion could attend an assisted school. This could not be otherwise since public funds were to be disbursed to fund the school.

The Concordat also specifies the right of "appointment, retention, promotion, transfer and dismissal of teachers in Primary Schools will rest with the Public Service Commission". It does however, provide that a teacher shall not be appointed to a school if the denominational board objects to such an appointment on moral or religious grounds. Similarly, if a teacher is found to be unsatisfactory on these very grounds, moral or religious, the denominational authority shall have the right to request his removal to another school after due investigation. For these reasons vacancies as they occur in all schools are usually advertised and applications submitted in the first instance to the respective board of management. The board examines them and forwards them all, with their recommendations, to the Public Service Commission for final action.

Since the current principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School is already appointed, one imagines that the procedure was followed. It seems to me that the board of that school has the power to require her removal only if she is found to be unsatisfactory on moral or religious grounds. There is no mention anywhere in the Concordat or the Education Act that the mere recommendation by a PTA or the board in itself is a ground for her removal.

The Education Act makes provision for the operation of boards in all public schools. This includes assisted schools. It gives the boards the power of "the control and management of all matters relating to the establishment and maintenance of new schools, the making of applications for recognition of new schools, the maintenance of existing schools, the rebuilding or extension of schools" and the like. The boards are also responsible for the efficient maintenance of schools under their authority, "for the provision of all requisite furniture and for keeping school buildings in a good state of repair and sanitation".

It is evident, based on the Act, that the board of a denominational assisted school is not responsible for the supervision of a principal who has been properly appointed. If a principal is proving to be unsatisfactory on "moral or religious" grounds the board may request his/her removal. Since assisted schools cannot bar entry to the school of persons of other religions it follows that if a principal allows such persons entry into the school this would not be a "religious" ground for dismissal.

In any event the board is required to act in accordance with any special or general directives of the minister concerning the exercise and performance of its powers and duties.

Under the Act the responsibilities of the principal of a public school are stated to include:

(a) the supervision of the physical safety of pupils; (b) the suitable application of the syllabus (c) allocation and supervision of the duties and responsibilities of members of their staff; (d) the discipline of the school; (e) teaching and the like. The principal is also required to cooperate with "parents and with approved authorities in the execution of authorised schemes".

Co-operation with the PTA or board by the principal is only in relation to carrying out authorised schemes. What does this mean? It could only mean lawful schemes under the Act — and would not include for instance barring other persons from the school.

Under both the Concordat and the Education Act there is no justification for a board or a PTA to prevent any teacher (including a principal) from performing her duties — and by extension from entering the compound — unless, as in the case of any other citizen, she was about to commit a criminal offence. The proper and only course is to take the matter to the Teaching Service Commission. If the Commission finds merit in the complaint on moral or religious grounds only then can the principal be removed.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/The_power_of_church_school_boards-134518323.html
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on November 27, 2011, 03:51:21 AM: Excerpted from Trinidad & Tobago: Democracy and Development in the Caribbean
Scott B. MacDonald
(Praeger, 1986)

For the Catholic Church the Concordat was a temporary victory as the churches were allowed: to maintain their proprietary rights, to veto the introduction of books, curriculum changes, and apparatus in their institutions; to have their religions taught by only one of their own faith; and to have access to state schools at specified times to give instruction to children of their denomination. Moreover, although the authority over retention, appointment, transfer, promotion, and dismissal of teaching staff was given to the Public Service Commission, denominational boards were granted the power to refuse, accept or retain a teacher whose moral or religious conduct did not meet with their approval. The major concession to the state was over the recruitment of students: 80% of those entering the first form of the secondary schools were to be determined by the state on the basis of a standardized entrance exam. The remaining 20% were to be left to the discretion of the various schools, while church-run schools remained eligible for state economic assistance.

The Concordat with the Catholic and Protestant churches and the Hindu organizations had been one of the most complicated problems that Williams faced as he was forced to concede on an issue about which he had strong personal feelings while also overriding a substantial force within the party. The benefit from such maneuvers, however, was that the PNM's movement back to the right had been given a substantial boost, and opinion within the Catholic and Anglican churches was gradually swinging in favor of Williams's party.

By the close of 1960, the PNM had zigzagged from center right to the left and back to the center right. While the radical phase had been marked by a tough stance on most issues, the move to the right was accommodational in nature and disarming to a political opposition that claimed the PNM was rigid and held authoritarian tendencies. With the U.S. and British governments and Catholic and Anglican churches neutralized, the Prime Minister was able to concentrate on the matter of electoral boundaries and getting reelected.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on November 27, 2011, 05:05:54 AM: I eh know if to :rotfl: or :puking:

Sat: I love Black people
“My wish is that our people would live together”

Q: Mr Maharaj, what do you have against Black people?
A: (A brief astonished expression then a burst of laughter at his Radio Jagriti office off the Churchill-Roosevelt Highway in Tunapuna on Wednesday morning) I love Black people, they are some of the most attractive of our citizens. What I detest is ignorance.

In what context?
Total political ignorance; ignorant about the facts, ignorant of things that they know nothing about, and those who are totally influenced by the negative aspects of the politics of the land.

So those who label you a racist are ignorant?
Not only are they ignorant, they themselves are the racists. They try to throw this on somebody else. Each one of us has natural affinities to our clan, to our communities, to our religion but we don’t use that as a measuring rod for our relationship with other people.

An accusation levelled against you Mr Maharaj, is that you have said if any of your children should marry a Black person you would disown them?
That, my friend, is a total and absolute fabrication.

You can swear to that on the Bhagavad Gita?
I swear by the (raised voice)... I, uh…why should I have to swear to anybody? Why do I have to swear to you or anybody else? I have never said that! What I said is if my daughter marries somebody who the family doesn’t approve of we reserve the right to accept or reject...and that still holds. And that is the case with many families in this country; not only Hindu families...the right to accept or reject.

What do you feel is the cause of this constant vilification of Sat Maharaj?
They need somebody...you see, for the PNM to survive it needs the Black/Indian divide to exist, for they cannot survive because they have no policy, no programmes that can attract people back to their party. What they should be doing is talking about their plans for the future.

What do you mean they have no policy or programme, what about the Vision 2020?
(Throwing his arms wide open) What vision? That was a backward vision which they picked up from the waste paper basket of other countries. Since Dr Eric Williams, nobody in that party has had any vision. None whosoever! Their only vision is to rape the treasury.

Mr Maharaj, weren’t you once a strong supporter of the PNM, actually speaking on their platform?
(He explains he parted with the PNM immediately after the 1981 general election campaign during which the PNM had mounted an “Ah Fraid Karl” strategy instilling imaginary fears in the electorate against Karl Hudson-Philips,QC, then political leader of the Organisation for National Reconstruction). That was sufficient because of the fear they aimed against Mr Hudson-Phillips; The same modus operandi the PNM is relying on today. Total fabrication! Fear, racial fear.

In this imbroglio at the Tunapuna Hindu School an agreement was reached that nobody should speak publicly about it?
(Interrupting) No. No. The agreement is no party will attack the other party, right? Maybe I should give you a copy of the agreement. (He pulls out two copies of the accord which was hand written by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh who brokered the deal) This is the handwriting of the minister, which states in part: “TTUTA has categorically denied making any charge of racism against the SDMS and the SDMS has also categorically denied any racism in any of their schools.” The principal was right there when the matter was being discussed.

Did she deny making that statement?
Well, she signed the document, too. She signed it.

Do you agree with the criticism levelled against Dr Gopeesingh that he failed to act in the dispute which allowed it to get out of hand?
Total falsehood. I mean, the same people are saying the Teaching Service Commission has the authority...not the Minister of Education. All the authority he has is what he did in bringing the parties together to effect conciliation. MP McIntosh raised this in the Parliament. Did she first bring it to your attention, particularly the charges levelled against you before taking it to the legislature? Mrs McIntosh told a lot of lies in the legislature in this matter, and I want to tell you that we have written the Speaker of the House this morning requesting that our side of the story be placed into the Hansard (The verbatim record of debates in the Parliament).

Clevon, what is absolutely stunning is that this honourable lady never bothered to take up the telephone and make some simple inquiries to ascertain if these allegations levelled against me by the principal were true. I just cannot believe that kind of conduct from someone aspiring to high political office. She never made any attempt to send anybody here to check the veracity of the claim that I do not want African children in our school. Deliberate lies! They are not mere fabrications.

Mr Maharaj, is it fair to accuse Mrs McIntosh?
(A sharp interjection, shaking a finger at Raphael’s face) Listen Clevon, stop there man! Let me finish! You don’t guide this discussion. If you go to the Enterprise Hindu School you will find 70 per cent of the pupils of African descent. Seventy-per cent! The dynamics have changed. Right in this school 55 Afro-Trinis are on the roll. Further, in September 1952, when the Tunapuna Hindu School—which was located in a temple next to the Royal Castle outlet—opened, the first pupil admitted was an Afro-Trini who went on to become the principal of the El Dorado Secondary School.

There are 300 children of African descent at the Sangre Grande Hindu School. She is trying to create a racial problem, not trying to find out if there is a racial problem. If she had gone to Arima Hindu School 60 per cent are Afro-Trinis.

These are hard, undisputable facts?
Clevon, I am not manufacturing that. Go and see for yourself and talk to the principal rather than talking to me.

If race is not the issue what exactly is the genesis of this problem, something personal between you and the principal?
We signed this agreement which says that none of us will pursue it further, but if you look at our complaints against the principal you will get an idea why we are so upset. However, there are two other primary schools in this area where the principals are laws unto themselves, the boards have no control over them and I think they have been trying to influence the negatives the principal here want to indulge in.

This current imbroglio has resurrected the debate on whether the Concordat with the Government and the denominational boards should be scrapped. Which side of the argument are you on?
Scrap it? The Concordat has worked well for Trinidad and Tobago but some people believe that it is just a sheet of paper that was signed many years ago. That is not the Concordat. It is also all the conventions in the education system that have been developed since then.

You are aware Mrs McIntosh is in favour of having another look at the Concordat?
Because she has nothing to lose. She has not built a school, she has not developed a community, and she is now trying to mislead a whole country.

So where do you go from here?
The agreement has been signed, and she is to be reassigned so that is now history. Look Clevon, you are now on the compound of the school. Do you hear a sound coming out of that school where there are more than 400 pupils? That is discipline…total discipline.

What sort of danger do you see if the accord should be done away with?
The country would suffer because you would lose a whole cadre of people with experience in running schools. Running a school is not just teaching and writing. Every morning we teach the children to pray, to respect authority. And when you come here at 8.30 in the morning you will hear the children praying together, singing the bhajans together. Part of the problem in the school system is the breakdown in discipline, students becoming pregnant…why didn’t she speak out against those ills?

Mr Maharaj, I wish you will not use this forum to attack the goodly lady in her absence, as it were? (An incredulous stare) She attacked me! She didn’t talk to the Maha Sabha! Nobody spoke to us and she attacked us behind our backs at 10 o’clock in the night in the Parliament. So what you are trying to tell me? Look Clevon, don’t let us fall out here today. (Laughs) Fair is fair. You don’t expect me to stay here and take verbal blows based on complete falsehood and do not respond.

Mr Maharaj, in spite of whatever your detractors might say you have indeed contributed to national development. What is your greatest wish for the land of your birth at this time?
My wish is that our people would live together. We will share the good times together, we will share bad times together. When the floods come we all cry together, and when the oil starts flowing again we would all benefit together. I am a Trinidadian more than to the bone...a Trini to the marrow. The politician from time to time try to create problems and tensions. But go to the countryside and you will be amazed to see how we all live as one.

Mr Maharaj, all your life you have been a magnet for controversy—you have just turned 80—when would your controversial persona end?
(Face lit up and in a very animated state) It will come to an end when I am taken to the banks of the Caroni River for cremation. I built that specially for me (thumping his chest). You better believe that, others are using it right now (a large smile), but that was built for me. I told my wife (deceased), I told my friends I want to be cremated there. I grew up on the banks of that river and that cremation site is where I am going to end my days.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2011/11/27/sat-i-love-black-people (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2011/11/27/sat-i-love-black-people)
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Quags on November 27, 2011, 11:26:57 AM: Quote from: mukumsplau on November 15, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
there is lots of racial tolerance in schools..i went a prestige presbyterian school..thing is, when indians made their racist remarks, they tolerated a beating from me..casual casual...and everyone was normal after that...
bring them and let the beatings begin .
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on November 27, 2011, 12:45:57 PM: People misunderstand Sat.

He's not a racist. He's a fundametalist.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Dutty on November 27, 2011, 02:13:34 PM: Quote from: Bourbon on November 27, 2011, 12:45:57 PM
People misunderstand Sat.

He's not a racist. He's a fundametalist.

I thought allyuh say he was Hindu.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on November 28, 2011, 07:42:47 AM: Quote from: Dutty on November 27, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: Bourbon on November 27, 2011, 12:45:57 PM
People misunderstand Sat.

He's not a racist. He's a fundametalist.

I thought allyuh say he was Hindu.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 12, 2011, 11:36:42 PM: SITA CLEARED
By Lara Pickford-Gordon Tuesday, December 13 2011

The Teaching Service Commission (TSC) has cleared principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga of allegations made by the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) regarding her conduct.

The TSC found there was insufficient evidence against the principal and directed the Education Ministry to investigate the conduct of a teacher of the school and school supervisors.

The TSC met last Wednesday and considered a report from an investigation done by the ministry.

Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh yesterday said the TSC considered the contents of the report and sought legal advice.

Gopeesingh said the TSC concluded that there was “insufficient evidence to substantiate allegations made against Mrs Gajadharsingh-Nanga.”

However, the TSC has found there was sufficient grounds for the ministry to investigate “one of the teachers at the school.”

Gopeesingh did not disclose what was the allegation against the teacher.

He said the TSC has concerns about issues at the school which should have been addressed by school supervisors.

The TSC has directed the ministry to investigate whether the school supervisors were negligent in their duty and failed to address the issue of the allocation of resources from the ministry to the school and did not have proper oversight of the school.

Gopeesingh said he has given instructions for an investigating team to be established to urgently deal with matters related to the supervisors and a particular teacher identified by the TSC in its report.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga has spent most of the school term away from duty due to the rift with the SDMS and schools’ Parent Teachers’ Association (PTA).

She returned to work last Tuesday, just over two weeks after the Ministry of Education mediated an agreement between her and the SDMS on November 21.

On the issue of the transfer of Gajadharsingh-Nanga, the TSC advised that interviews would take place for principal I for primary schools, which were advertised, and Gajadharsingh Nanga would be invited to be interviewed. Gopeesingh said the ministry was “hamstrung” as it had to wait on the TSC to do interviews. Contacted for comment Gajadharsingh-Nanga said she had not heard anything about the TSC’s report yet and no one has contacted her. She told Newsday that she could not comment further because the teaching service regulations did not allow her to.

SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj had no comment to make until he saw the report.

Peter Wilson, general secretary of the TT Unified Teachers’ Association (TTUTA) said he had no idea of what the report said but based on what he heard from Newsday, no action can be taken against the principal and it was up to the ministry to deal with the other matters highlighted.

Wilson said despite the agreement of November 21, Gajadharsingh-Nanga was still having problems at school. Private security guards hired by the SDMS, teaching staff and cleaners have refused to take directives from her.

The principal yesterday attempted to have a staff meeting but it did not happen. Wilson said the principal was responsible for the day-to-day management of the school and would be accountable for anything which happened. He said there seemed to be a deliberate attempt to subvert the agreement mediated by the Education Ministry between the principal and SDMS and the ministry was “aiding and abetting”. The school supervisors are supposed to ensure the principal was able to carry out her duties.

“Something as simple as keys. She can’t even have access to the area where office, equipment and stationary supplies are kept. It is as ridiculous as that,” said Wilson.

The atmosphere at the school has been tense for more than six months and there has been a strong lobby by the PTA and SDMS for the principal to be transferred.

The issues at the school became public when a letter written by Gajadharsingh-Nanga to the TSC requesting a transfer was publicised by a weekly newspaper in August.

In it she alleged that the SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj threatened to lock her out of the school for admitting non-Indian children within the catchment area and not to admit black children. She said Maharaj was in an “uproar” because two of eight on-the-job trainees were non- Indian.”

Maharaj wrote the TSC August 10 and described Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s behaviour as disruptive and parents had expressed concern about confrontation.

The Director of Personnel Administration (DPA) wrote to the ministry on September 26 asking for the Permanent Secretary to ensure steps were taken to ensure the principal be allowed to carry out her duties.

Three weeks earlier the SDMS wrote to Gajadharsingh-Nanga telling her to report for duty at the St George East Education District. Maharaj wrote to the TSC on October 10 outlining the reasons the SDMS wanted the principal tranferred: Gajadharsingh-Nanga did not institute a programme for infants to learn prayers, she removed the dress code sign and attempted to frustrate efforts to complete a temple on the school compound, and failed to fulfill obligations to the board.

The DPA wrote the SDMS October 14 informing that unless Gajadharsingh-Nanga was transferred or otherwise directed by the TSC, the SDMS had no authority to debar her from reporting for work. Gajadharsingh-Nanga went to the school on October 24 accompanied by two school supervisors but they were not allowed entry. The police was called and fire service officers cut the locks on door. On November 9, excerpts from Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s letter were read by Port-of-Spain North/St Ann’s West Member of Parliament Patricia McIntosh during a sitting of the House of Representatives.

At a briefing on November 12, Maharaj provided data for the student population of the Tunapuna Hindu School which showed there were 22 children of African descent.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on December 13, 2011, 07:55:41 AM: I think its really unfair to the Principal to expect her to report to duty under those conditions.The findings of the report may not change this, but as mentioned the occurances of not taking orders etc regrettable and somewhat expected.

Next ting....I guessing the school have 33 douglas? Cause in the interview Sat said 55. I wondering how they got this information...was it on the original registration form or if based on the comess a check was made?

Fact is....things like this usually DONT end well.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on December 13, 2011, 10:02:34 PM: TIM CRACKS THE WHIP
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/TIM_CRACKS_THE_WHIP-135557168.html

By Renuka Singh
December 13, 2011
Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh yesterday lashed out at the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) for its "inaccurate" findings on the principal of the Tunapuna Hindu school.

He also threatened to enforce the Education Act that gives him overarching power over the country's school system.

"This matter is going to come to a head because I intend to deal with the TSC," Gopeesingh said in a telephone interview yesterday.

The TSC has cleared Gajadharsingh-Nanga of all allegations of wrongdoing at the school, which Gopeesingh says is contradictory to the reports from two school supervisors who visited the school.

"The report from the TSC does not reflect accurately the information from the school supervisors. The TSC has arrived at a widely varying view from the supervisors," he said.

Gopeesingh said he has seen a report from the school supervisors appointed to investigate the allegations made against the principal at the school, and they varied from the findings and recommendations made by the TSC. Gopeesingh was also concerned that while the school supervisors recommended an immediate transfer for the principal, the TSC said it would add her name to the list of applicants.

"That could take as much as two years," he said.

Gopeesingh said when he received the TSC report, he considered "going public" with it to highlight the discrepancies between the two reports.

"The question is now over the role and function of the TSC as a so-called independent committee. They are autocratic and high-handed. It was clear from the evidence that things not working out at all at the school," he said.

"I am now questioning the independence of the TSC," he said.

Hyacinth Guy, TSC head, said she was not allowed to speak on the matter, but she acknowledged that the TSC has cleared Gajadharsingh-Nanga of the allegations by the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) board.

A source within the TSC said the report sent to the Ministry was "more than a recommendation", adding that "they (the Ministry) are mandated to carry out those instructions".

The minister has, however, quoted Section 5 (g) of the Education Act, which detailed the "Powers of the Minister". Gopeesingh said that section gave the minister the jurisdiction to "do all such other things as may be found expedient from time to time for the carrying out of his responsibilities for education and training", and he intended to use it.

"The TSC's findings are simply not acceptable to me. They made their decisions independent of the evidence before them and did not call the people involved in the situation to even do interviews," he said.

Gopeesingh said the TSC board "flagrantly ignored" the submissions from the school supervisors, and he was not going to let the matter rest.

The Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) board has alleged the principal was not abiding by the rules of the school and has taken it upon herself to close off the library and computer room from pupils. She was also accused of not handing out Ministry-issued books.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga has accused the SDMS board and its general secretary, Satnarayan Maharaj, of asking her to block non-Indian and non-Hindu pupils and workers from the school.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bourbon on December 13, 2011, 10:17:13 PM: Oh great.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on December 14, 2011, 05:06:32 AM: Alright eh....so hear mih next question. How is the TSC appointed?? When next are they due for a change?? All yuh see where ah coming from??

Ah next thing, ent at least one of the school supervisors is aligned to Tim or Sat or both?? But didn't Tim heself try to usurp the authority of the TSC when he make big announcement in the media but the issue being resolved when he knew very well that the teacher couldn't go back to work until the TSC gave the all clear??

Hear nah, these people are just a bunch of nasty, stinking, digusting, classless idiots!! :puking: :busshead:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on December 14, 2011, 07:43:01 AM: The Minister's statement is highly irresponsible and suggests that he favoured of a particular outcome. I find it peculiar that the Minister unilaterally decided that the decision of the Service Commission was wrong and furthermore imputed improper motives against the Commission by questioning its independence. If even we agree that the Service Commission erred surely the public space is not the correct forum. I am also surprised by this bold and grandstanding tone by the Minister who has been been ever so cautious and reticent on this issue.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 07:50:37 AM: Of course he favoured a particular outcome he must b on d side of his boi Sat.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2011, 08:21:47 AM: It is really scandalous and irresponsible that the Minister has now undertaken to criticize the TSC, thereby undermining confidence in the board. Going forward everybody who disagree with the Commission will question their impartiality, which is what I think Gopeesingh getting at when he talks about their "independence."
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Jah Gol on December 14, 2011, 08:29:53 AM: This was yesterday. Like Tim change he mind or what ? How one day you saying you will investigate immediately and the next day condemn the decision altogether. Them dem fellas good yes.

Quote from: weary1969 on December 12, 2011, 11:36:42 PM
SITA CLEARED
By Lara Pickford-Gordon Tuesday, December 13 2011

The Teaching Service Commission (TSC) has cleared principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga of allegations made by the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) regarding her conduct.

The TSC found there was insufficient evidence against the principal and directed the Education Ministry to investigate the conduct of a teacher of the school and school supervisors.

The TSC met last Wednesday and considered a report from an investigation done by the ministry.

Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh yesterday said the TSC considered the contents of the report and sought legal advice.

Gopeesingh said the TSC concluded that there was “insufficient evidence to substantiate allegations made against Mrs Gajadharsingh-Nanga.”

However, the TSC has found there was sufficient grounds for the ministry to investigate “one of the teachers at the school.”

Gopeesingh did not disclose what was the allegation against the teacher.

He said the TSC has concerns about issues at the school which should have been addressed by school supervisors.

The TSC has directed the ministry to investigate whether the school supervisors were negligent in their duty and failed to address the issue of the allocation of resources from the ministry to the school and did not have proper oversight of the school.

Gopeesingh said he has given instructions for an investigating team to be established to urgently deal with matters related to the supervisors and a particular teacher identified by the TSC in its report.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga has spent most of the school term away from duty due to the rift with the SDMS and schools’ Parent Teachers’ Association (PTA).

She returned to work last Tuesday, just over two weeks after the Ministry of Education mediated an agreement between her and the SDMS on November 21.

On the issue of the transfer of Gajadharsingh-Nanga, the TSC advised that interviews would take place for principal I for primary schools, which were advertised, and Gajadharsingh Nanga would be invited to be interviewed. Gopeesingh said the ministry was “hamstrung” as it had to wait on the TSC to do interviews. Contacted for comment Gajadharsingh-Nanga said she had not heard anything about the TSC’s report yet and no one has contacted her. She told Newsday that she could not comment further because the teaching service regulations did not allow her to.

SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj had no comment to make until he saw the report.

Peter Wilson, general secretary of the TT Unified Teachers’ Association (TTUTA) said he had no idea of what the report said but based on what he heard from Newsday, no action can be taken against the principal and it was up to the ministry to deal with the other matters highlighted.

Wilson said despite the agreement of November 21, Gajadharsingh-Nanga was still having problems at school. Private security guards hired by the SDMS, teaching staff and cleaners have refused to take directives from her.

The principal yesterday attempted to have a staff meeting but it did not happen. Wilson said the principal was responsible for the day-to-day management of the school and would be accountable for anything which happened. He said there seemed to be a deliberate attempt to subvert the agreement mediated by the Education Ministry between the principal and SDMS and the ministry was “aiding and abetting”. The school supervisors are supposed to ensure the principal was able to carry out her duties.

“Something as simple as keys. She can’t even have access to the area where office, equipment and stationary supplies are kept. It is as ridiculous as that,” said Wilson.

The atmosphere at the school has been tense for more than six months and there has been a strong lobby by the PTA and SDMS for the principal to be transferred.

The issues at the school became public when a letter written by Gajadharsingh-Nanga to the TSC requesting a transfer was publicised by a weekly newspaper in August.

In it she alleged that the SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj threatened to lock her out of the school for admitting non-Indian children within the catchment area and not to admit black children. She said Maharaj was in an “uproar” because two of eight on-the-job trainees were non- Indian.”

Maharaj wrote the TSC August 10 and described Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s behaviour as disruptive and parents had expressed concern about confrontation.

The Director of Personnel Administration (DPA) wrote to the ministry on September 26 asking for the Permanent Secretary to ensure steps were taken to ensure the principal be allowed to carry out her duties.

Three weeks earlier the SDMS wrote to Gajadharsingh-Nanga telling her to report for duty at the St George East Education District. Maharaj wrote to the TSC on October 10 outlining the reasons the SDMS wanted the principal tranferred: Gajadharsingh-Nanga did not institute a programme for infants to learn prayers, she removed the dress code sign and attempted to frustrate efforts to complete a temple on the school compound, and failed to fulfill obligations to the board.

The DPA wrote the SDMS October 14 informing that unless Gajadharsingh-Nanga was transferred or otherwise directed by the TSC, the SDMS had no authority to debar her from reporting for work. Gajadharsingh-Nanga went to the school on October 24 accompanied by two school supervisors but they were not allowed entry. The police was called and fire service officers cut the locks on door. On November 9, excerpts from Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s letter were read by Port-of-Spain North/St Ann’s West Member of Parliament Patricia McIntosh during a sitting of the House of Representatives.

At a briefing on November 12, Maharaj provided data for the student population of the Tunapuna Hindu School which showed there were 22 children of African descent.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 09:45:47 AM: Quote from: Jah Gol on December 14, 2011, 08:29:53 AM
This was yesterday. Like Tim change he mind or what ? How one day you saying you will investigate immediately and the next day condemn the decision altogether. Them dem fellas good yes.

Quote from: weary1969 on December 12, 2011, 11:36:42 PM
SITA CLEARED
By Lara Pickford-Gordon Tuesday, December 13 2011

The Teaching Service Commission (TSC) has cleared principal of the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga of allegations made by the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) regarding her conduct.

The TSC found there was insufficient evidence against the principal and directed the Education Ministry to investigate the conduct of a teacher of the school and school supervisors.

The TSC met last Wednesday and considered a report from an investigation done by the ministry.

Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh yesterday said the TSC considered the contents of the report and sought legal advice.

Gopeesingh said the TSC concluded that there was “insufficient evidence to substantiate allegations made against Mrs Gajadharsingh-Nanga.”

However, the TSC has found there was sufficient grounds for the ministry to investigate “one of the teachers at the school.”

Gopeesingh did not disclose what was the allegation against the teacher.

He said the TSC has concerns about issues at the school which should have been addressed by school supervisors.

The TSC has directed the ministry to investigate whether the school supervisors were negligent in their duty and failed to address the issue of the allocation of resources from the ministry to the school and did not have proper oversight of the school.

Gopeesingh said he has given instructions for an investigating team to be established to urgently deal with matters related to the supervisors and a particular teacher identified by the TSC in its report.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga has spent most of the school term away from duty due to the rift with the SDMS and schools’ Parent Teachers’ Association (PTA).

She returned to work last Tuesday, just over two weeks after the Ministry of Education mediated an agreement between her and the SDMS on November 21.

On the issue of the transfer of Gajadharsingh-Nanga, the TSC advised that interviews would take place for principal I for primary schools, which were advertised, and Gajadharsingh Nanga would be invited to be interviewed. Gopeesingh said the ministry was “hamstrung” as it had to wait on the TSC to do interviews. Contacted for comment Gajadharsingh-Nanga said she had not heard anything about the TSC’s report yet and no one has contacted her. She told Newsday that she could not comment further because the teaching service regulations did not allow her to.

SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj had no comment to make until he saw the report.

Peter Wilson, general secretary of the TT Unified Teachers’ Association (TTUTA) said he had no idea of what the report said but based on what he heard from Newsday, no action can be taken against the principal and it was up to the ministry to deal with the other matters highlighted.

Wilson said despite the agreement of November 21, Gajadharsingh-Nanga was still having problems at school. Private security guards hired by the SDMS, teaching staff and cleaners have refused to take directives from her.

The principal yesterday attempted to have a staff meeting but it did not happen. Wilson said the principal was responsible for the day-to-day management of the school and would be accountable for anything which happened. He said there seemed to be a deliberate attempt to subvert the agreement mediated by the Education Ministry between the principal and SDMS and the ministry was “aiding and abetting”. The school supervisors are supposed to ensure the principal was able to carry out her duties.

“Something as simple as keys. She can’t even have access to the area where office, equipment and stationary supplies are kept. It is as ridiculous as that,” said Wilson.

The atmosphere at the school has been tense for more than six months and there has been a strong lobby by the PTA and SDMS for the principal to be transferred.

The issues at the school became public when a letter written by Gajadharsingh-Nanga to the TSC requesting a transfer was publicised by a weekly newspaper in August.

In it she alleged that the SDMS Secretary General Satnarayan Maharaj threatened to lock her out of the school for admitting non-Indian children within the catchment area and not to admit black children. She said Maharaj was in an “uproar” because two of eight on-the-job trainees were non- Indian.”

Maharaj wrote the TSC August 10 and described Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s behaviour as disruptive and parents had expressed concern about confrontation.

The Director of Personnel Administration (DPA) wrote to the ministry on September 26 asking for the Permanent Secretary to ensure steps were taken to ensure the principal be allowed to carry out her duties.

Three weeks earlier the SDMS wrote to Gajadharsingh-Nanga telling her to report for duty at the St George East Education District. Maharaj wrote to the TSC on October 10 outlining the reasons the SDMS wanted the principal tranferred: Gajadharsingh-Nanga did not institute a programme for infants to learn prayers, she removed the dress code sign and attempted to frustrate efforts to complete a temple on the school compound, and failed to fulfill obligations to the board.

The DPA wrote the SDMS October 14 informing that unless Gajadharsingh-Nanga was transferred or otherwise directed by the TSC, the SDMS had no authority to debar her from reporting for work. Gajadharsingh-Nanga went to the school on October 24 accompanied by two school supervisors but they were not allowed entry. The police was called and fire service officers cut the locks on door. On November 9, excerpts from Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s letter were read by Port-of-Spain North/St Ann’s West Member of Parliament Patricia McIntosh during a sitting of the House of Representatives.

At a briefing on November 12, Maharaj provided data for the student population of the Tunapuna Hindu School which showed there were 22 children of African descent.

Yday was Yday and 2day is 2day dat fella Biopalar so not surprise
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 10:51:42 AM: Sat: No vindication

By —Renuka Singh

"Sita was my first mistake in 35 years," said Satnarayan Maharaj, general secretary of the Sana- tan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS). Maharaj was referring to reinstated Tunapuna Hindu School principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, who has been cleared of all accusations of misconduct by the Teaching Service Commission (TSC).

Maharaj said he did not agree with the TSC findings and said it was not a question of vindication for the principal.

"The case was not proven; it is not that she was cleared," he said in a telephone interview yesterday.

Maharaj said what was clear was that the TSC was attempting to shift blame from the principal to the school supervisors.

"If there was nothing amiss at the school, why then would the TSC recommend an investigation into the school supervisors?" he said.

"In a roundabout way, they are blaming the supervisors, instead, for what has been happening at the school," Maharaj said.

The TSC findings recommended an investigation to "determine whether the school super- visors were negligent in the performance of their duties, in that they failed to address issues of the allocation of resources from the Ministry of Education to the school and did not have proper oversight of the school".

He said the parents were unhappy with the decision.

"They would want to take their own action. This situation is totally crazy, but there is a bigger battle going on," he said.

Maharaj said the TSC was an arm of the Ministry of Education and should not have the level of autonomy that they enjoy.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga, however, said she did feel "vindicated" by the TSC findings. Though Gajadharsingh-Nanga did not want to say more on the issue, a source close to her, who requested anonymity, said the findings and recommendations from the TSC did not change the current situation at the school.

"She would be vindicated because an independent board looked at all the evidence and exonerated her. They made an impartial decision based on nothing more than the evidence of the matter," the source said.

The source noted that Gajadharsingh-Nanga was not informed of the TSC findings through any formal channels.

"She was told informally of the findings. There was no communication from the Ministry of Education or the SDMS board," she said.

The school's parent-teacher association (PTA) has called a media conference on the school's compound today.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 09:06:05 PM: PUNISH SITA
By Darcel Choy Thursday, December 15 2011

The Parent-Teacher Association (PTA) of the Tunapuna Hindu School is demanding that principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga be moved or else.

Parents are not prepared to work with the principal if she returns in the new school term on January 9, 2012, president of the PTA, Ishwar Muttoo, said yesterday at a press conference at the school, located on the corner of Churchill Roosevelt Highway and Pasea Main Road, Tunapuna.

When asked what the PTA will do if the principal returns to school in the next term, Muttoo said, “wait for January 9.” When asked if they would shut down the school he repeated, “wait for January 9.”

The PTA is adamant that Gajadharsingh-Nanga must be transferred even though the Teaching Service Commission cleared her of allegations of misconduct and management saying there was no evidence to prove the claims made by the PTA and the general secretary of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) Board, Sat Maharaj.

“We do not want this to continue in the next school term...we cannot allow our leaders in society to continue to act in manners (sic) like the principal has been acting, failing to allow our children to use the library and computer rooms, for failing to deliver text books to our children, we see that as misconduct in public office, when that happens you need to be disciplined,” Muttoo said. Muttoo said the activities of the principal during her tenure were an act of misconduct and she needed to be punished.

“When you deprive my child and the 500 children of brand new desks, you need to be punished. If my child comes to this school and drops a piece of paper on the floor they are disciplined they have to stand up and kneel down and write lines. Why can we discipline the children and not the principal?” he asked.

He said the PTA believes her return would only cause tension among teachers and students.

“We cannot allow it, we would not sit idly by and allow our children to go through those kind of disturbances and trauma again,” Muttoo said.

The troubling impasse involving the principal has been ongoing for several months, with allegations of racism and misconduct being made by the principal, PTA and the SDMS, prompting investigations by the Education Ministry and the Teaching Service Commission (TSC).

An agreement brokered by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh on November 21 in which there was an understanding that Gajadharsingh-Nanga would return to the school on the condition that she would be transferred in the new school term appears to have failed. The principal did not return to school until a week later but has been unable to run the school effectively since staff ignore her instructions and she leaves the compound early out of fear of being locked in by the SDMS’ security.

Amid the rising tension, Gopeesingh yesterday said his main concern was that it could take as long as two years for Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s request for a transfer to be approved by the TSC.

In a statement, he said the TSC’s track record showed that it had not yet filled 65 vacancies for primary school principals, and there were still vacancies for 21 secondary school principals.

Gopeesingh said he has found Gajadharsingh-Nanga should get the transfer she has requested since it appears to be the only way she will be provided with the appropriate professional environment needed to do her job.

“She cannot continue to operate in a hostile situation and the students of the school cannot continue to be affected by it,” he said.

Gopeesingh said he has sought advice from a senior counsel who has noted that under Section 5 (g) of the Education Act, which details the “Powers of the Minister”, the Minister of Education has jurisdiction to “do all such other things as may be found expedient from time to time for the carrying out of his responsibilities for education and training”.

Gopeesingh said he is not challenging the TSC’s “constitutionally-enshrined independence” and proposes to hold a meeting with the commission with a view to resolving the matter at the earliest convenient time.

The minister said he saw it fit to ensure to use every authority vested in him to facilitate a quick transfer of the principal, in the best interest of the education system.

In a statement, the Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers’ Association (TTUTA) accused the ministry of failing to ensure that proper measures were put in place to assure a non-threatening environment at the school and the physical safety and security of the principal in keeping with Article 5 of the agreement reached between the ministry, TTUTA and the SDMS Board on November 21.

There have been a series of correspondence between the Permanent Secretary of the Education Ministry, Kathleen Thomas, school supervisors and Director of Personnel Administration (DPA) of the TSC, Yvette Phillip, which have all unveiled a very unhealthy and strained relationship between the principal and her staff and express concerns that her authority had been undermined by the SDMS Board.

A new development in the saga surfaced this week, that of the role of a teacher who also works for Radio Jaagriti which is run by the SDMS Board on the school’s compound.

The Permanent Secretary (PS) sought to address allegations made against the principal by the Board and of those the principal made against the Board in a letter to the DPA on December 2.

On the Board’s claim that the principal had hired non-Indians as on-the-job trainees who did not follow the school’s dress code, the PS said the information submitted by two school supervisors does not allow for a “definitive position” on the principal’s management of trainees.

Supporting excerpts from a report compiled by a school supervisor I, indicate the supervisor said the principal was not responsible for the hiring of the trainees. These were the roles of the Education Ministry and the Ministry of Science, Technology and Tertiary Education.

It was also alleged the principal collected monies from parents seeking enrolment in the school. The PS said the information submitted did not support the allegation while in the supervisor’s report, it stated there was no “hard evidence” to support the claim.

There were also concerns of the principal’s lack of financial accountability and the PS said it was a valid concern. The supervisor’s report also found the principal’s reporting procedures to staff about the school’s finances needed to be improved.

The principal was also criticised by the Board for not conducting maintenance work on the school. The PS said this responsibility resided with the Board. The supervisor agreed and said there was evidence that repair and maintenance work was done during Gajadharsingh-Nanga’s tenure.

The principal was also criticised for her management of the utilisation of school equipment and resources.

The PS said the principal’s management was deficit but noted such shortcomings would ordinarily be treated with by giving guidance, followed by a verbal warning, a written warning and a final warning. The PS advised that Gajadharsingh-Nanga would require guidance and counselling in this area. In the supervisor’s report it was noted the principal could be considered negligent with regard to the non-use of facilities, equipment and materials including the computer room, library, textbooks and furniture.

Addressing the allegations made against the Board by the principal, the PS said the information received did not substantiate her claim that she had been instructed not to enrol non-Indian children at the school.

Furthermore, among the recommendations the PS received from the supervisor was the need for an audit of the school’s finances, materials and resources.

The supervisor also advised the transfer of the principal be “strongly considered”; the school should be closely monitored by District School Supervisors; there should be closer collaboration between the SDMS Board and the ministry to address school issues in a timely manner; the principal should be also be monitored and supported vis a vis her communication and inter-personal skills.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 09:29:18 PM: Education Ministry looks into Radio Jaagriti
Thursday, December 15 2011

A new issue that has surfaced out of the investigations done by the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) and schools supervisors on the impasse at the Tunapuna Hindu Primary School was the complaint that a teacher was spending too much time doing work at Radio Jaagriti.

Radio Jaagriti is run by Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) on the school’s compound at the corner of Churchill Roosevelt Highway and Pasea Main Road, Tunapuna.

Permanent Secretary (PS) in the Education Ministry Kathleen Thomas raised the issue in a December 2 letter to the TSC. The letter was signed on Thomas’ behalf by the deputy PS Jennifer Daniel.

In the letter to the TSC, the PS included a report from the school supervisor II who noted the following about the teacher:

1. (Name called) is heavily involved in the business of broadcasting and is absent from work on a regular basis.

2. He is the host of different radio programmes, including one that is broadcast every morning.

In light of this the PS said the school supervisor I will be required to provide oversight for the rest of the school year on “the issue of the activities of the teacher.”

“The Ministry of Education will decide on a course of action it will pursue with respect to the issue of the location of Radio Jaagriti,” said the PS.

In a reply on December 9 to the PS, Director of Personnel Administration (DPA) of the TSC Yvette Phillip said there were “sufficient grounds to investigate the activities of (name called), to determine whether any allegations of misconduct should be brought against him.”

The DPA listed four points which she felt should be addressed:

1. Whether (name called) is frequently absent and/or late and whether this is adversely impacting the school.

2. Whether (name called) has absented himself from school without approved leave.

3. Whether (name called) has left the country without permission.

4. Whether (name called) activity is in conformity with the terms and conditions of his employment as a teacher I.

When Newsday checked, the teacher was not a school nor at the radio station.

Radio Jaagriti began operations after the SDMS won a legal battle against the State alleging discrimination when it was not awarded a radio licence. A licence was eventually granted after the SDMS’ successful lawsuit.

Another concern which was raised in review of the school was the role of senior school administrator in impasse involving principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga.

This matter was noted by the school supervisor II in a report to the PS, which was also forwarded to the TSC. The supervisor questioned whether the administrator was used by persons to “carry out their agenda” against the principal.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 10:17:39 PM: SITA MUST WAIT IN LINE
No special treatment for transfer of principal, says TSC head
By Renuka Singh

Tunapuna Hindu School principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga will not get any special treatment for her transfer by the Teaching Service Commission (TSC).

Hyacinth Guy, head of the TSC, said yesterday the request for her to be transferred will have to go through the normal channels, and she would not be "jumped to the head of the line", even under instructions from the Ministry of Education.

Guy, in a telephone interview yesterday, said the Ministry of Education's powers do not trump the Constitution, and as such, the TSC remained an independent body, unaffected by political interference.

Guy defended the role and function of the TSC in light of a statement by Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh that he intended to challenge the TSC's findings and recommendations in the matter at the school.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga is claiming she was ordered by the secretary general of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS), Sat Maharaj, not to allow pupils and on-the-job trainees (OJT) of African descent into the school.

This was denied by Maharaj, who claimed the principal had removed the dress code regulation sign and closed off several rooms, and did not distribute Government-issues schoolbooks and furniture.

Gopeesingh, in a media release yesterday, said his main concern was the request for the transfer and the pace with which the TSC would be able to facilitate the principal's move.

Gopeesingh said he feared it could take as long as two years to transfer Gajadharsingh-Nanga, but Guy said "no transfer would take that long".

Guy said, however, the TSC had closed off interviews for the rest of the year, and it will not meet again until the first week in January.

"We will begin interviews in January, and that will take all of January. We will then do an order of merit list by the end of January. She may or may not get what she wants," Guy said, referring to Gajadharsingh-Nanga's request to change schools.

"She cannot jump the line of transfer requests already in front of her," Guy said.

Guy said Gajadharsingh-Nanga, who was locked out of the school since July but returned to work in November, following an agreement signed by the SDMS board, the Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers Association (TTUTA) and the Ministry of Education, was not aware of the available vacancies which were usually advertised in the schools.

"The most we can do is waive the deadline date for submissions for her. But we have to be fair to everybody," she said.

"However, if she wanted a transfer to another SDMS school, that can be done immediately as it falls under the same denomination, but other than that, it's the same for everybody, regardless of the situation surrounding the request," she said.

A source within the TSC claimed the Ministry of Education was actually responsible for the stalled appointment process.

"The TSC is only responsible for appointments after the Ministry of Education advertises the posts, interviews the applicants and creates a short list. The TSC then uses that short list to fill the vacancies at the schools. The minister must know that," she said.

She said the TSC stood by its report and agreed with Maharaj that the TSC findings put the onus on the school supervisors and not the principal.

"This situation did not happen overnight. If the school supervisors noticed that something was progressively wrong, then it was up to them to report it up the proper channels," Guy said.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2011, 10:19:06 PM: Sita should be punished
Tunapuna Hindu PTA gives warning:

The parent-teacher association (PTA) at the Tunapuna Hindu School is threatening to take action if the principal, Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, is not removed before the start of the new term.

The group is also calling on President George Maxwell Richards to get involved to resolve the matter if the impasse continues.

Ishwar Muttoo, president of the PTA, yesterday held a media conference on the school's compound, calling for the principal to be transferred before children start the new school year on January 9.

"We are asking the TSC (Teaching Service Commission) and the Minister of Education to treat this with some urgency and deal with this matter. We want this impasse settled before the start of the new school term," he said.

He claimed the principal was guilty of many wrongdoings at the school and should not be allowed to get away with it.

"When you deprive our children of new desks and new books and have them sitting on termite-ridden desks, you need to be punished," he said.

Muttoo said the PTA was surprised by the findings of the TSC since they, as concerned parents, were never interviewed.

"We submitted letters to the school supervisors, but we were never contacted by the TSC," he said.

Muttoo said the presence of the principal will cause tension at the school, which would threaten the children's continued learning at the school.

Muttoo denied he was the mouthpiece of Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) general secretary Sat Maharaj.

"Three weeks ago, 150 parents met here at the school, and they gave us the mandate to continue to fight and struggle to have the principal removed," he said.

"We are the voice of the parents and not the SDMS," he said.

He said the PTA was not aware of any misdeeds by the vice-principal and another teacher as charged by the principal.

"The school is being run fine by the vice-principal, and the students are working now, when she is here, there is an obvious tension with the staff and with our children," he said.

Muttoo said the Minister of Education, Dr Tim Gopeesingh, and not the TSC would feel the brunt of action from the parents of the school, and as such, they fully supported him stepping into the continued situation at the school.

"Wait till January 9 and see what happens if that principal comes back here," he said.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: asylumseeker on December 16, 2011, 09:22:24 AM: SITA WANTS TO STAY
Tunapuna principal: I never asked for a transfer
By Renuka Singh (Express)

Story Created: Dec 15, 2011 at 11:47 PM ECT

Story Updated: Dec 15, 2011 at 11:47 PM ECT

Principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga is not moving from the Tunapuna Hindu School.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga, who originally brought the request for a transfer to the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) at the height of the controversy at the school in July, now says she will not be "bullied" from leaving a school she loves.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga maintained that under the guidelines of the Ministry of Education, she was not allowed to speak publicly in controversial school matters, but she did say she will continue to do her job without "fear or favour" at the Sanantan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) denominational school.

A source close the principal said it has been "really hard" for her to sit by and watch this situation unfold, while the others who signed the memorandum of understanding with the Minister of Education last month were allowed to continue speaking and "dragging her name through the mud".

The source said Gajadharsingh-Nanga has often said she was "not afraid of the Muttoos of this world", referring to the school's Parent Teacher Association (PTA) president Ishwar Muttoo, who has been leading the charge to have the principal removed from the school.

"But she has never formally applied for a transfer and she's not going to do it because she has done nothing wrong," she said. "But she said that some good will come from this."

Among the "good", she said, would be the TSC-led investigation into the actions of one teacher who, while paid to carry out teaching duties, was never assigned to a class and has a programme with the radio station on the school's compound.

"A lot of the internal issues are now coming out and would not come out if she did not take a stand," she said.

She said a key internal issue was the questions of improper conduct by non-Government issued security personnel attached the school.

"As many as ten parents complained to the school that this particular guard, from a private firm hired by the SDMS, has been acting inappropriately with female students," she said.

The source said Gajadharsingh-Nanga raised that issue several times at the school and even wrote to the school supervisors about it.

"But she was locked out of the school so no one knew what happened there," she said.

Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh said he was not aware of any such report.

"If that report was made to the school supervisors, it should have been escalated to me within 24 hours. I have not heard anything like that but I will look into those allegations," Gopeesingh said in a telephone interview yesterday.

With regards to Gajadharsingh-Nanga's decision not to transfer, Gopeesingh said she did request a transfer but not through the appropriate channels.

"It was forwarded to the TSC instead of the Ministry, but we worked that out," he said.

Gopeesingh said the TSC sent the transfer request to his Ministry and it was dealt with and sent back to the TSC.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 16, 2011, 02:38:08 PM: Sita’s husband: I’ll deal with PTA threats
Friday, December 16 2011

Ravi Nanga, attorney at law and husband of Tunapuna Hindu Primary School principal Sita Gajadharsingh-Nanga, has indicated they will address the threats made against her by the Parent-Teacher Association (PTA).

Without giving details, Nanga when contacted yesterday said the threats made by the PTA, “will be dealt with in due course.”

At a press conference at the school on Wednesday, the PTA demanded Gajadharsingh-Nanga be moved or else.

PTA president Ishwar Muttoo said parents were not prepared to work with the principal if she returns in the new school term on January 9, 2012. He said the principal must be punished. When asked what the PTA will do if the principal returns to school in the next term, Muttoo said, “wait for January 9.” When asked if they would shut down the school he repeated, “wait for January 9.”

Davanand Sinanan, Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers’ Association (TTUTA), first vice-president yesterday condemned the statements made by the PTA and called on Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh to do the same.

“The language used is intimidating and TTUTA condemns strongly the threats made against Gajadharsingh-Nanga. When the PTA comes out and makes these kind of statements then it reflects contempt and disrespect for the law and authority of the TSC. We would like the ministry to denounce the statements,” he said.

The PTA is adamant that Gajadharsingh-Nanga must be transferred even though the Teaching Service Commission (TSC) cleared her of allegations of misconduct and management saying there was no evidence to prove the claims made by the PTA and the secretary general of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) Board, Sat Maharaj.

On the issue of the transfer of Gajadharsingh-Nanga, the TSC advised that interviews would take place for principal I for primary schools, which were advertised, and Gajadharsingh-Nanga would be invited to be interviewed.

In an interview at TTUTA’s office on Southern Main Road, Curepe, Sinanan said due process must be adhered to.

“Everyone has to abide by the law, the PTA has to be told they have to respect the findings of the commission. If they fail to comply with the principal’s instructions they would be taken to task,” he said.

Gajadharsingh-Nanga has spent most of the school term away from duty due to the rift with the SDMS and schools’ Parent Teachers’ Association (PTA).

She returned to work last Tuesday, just over two weeks after the Ministry of Education mediated an agreement between her and the SDMS on November 21.
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: Brownsugar on December 16, 2011, 03:13:30 PM: Miss Sita, you brave!!!......:notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 16, 2011, 05:46:58 PM: Quote from: Brownsugar on December 16, 2011, 03:13:30 PM
Miss Sita, you brave!!!......:notworthy: :notworthy:

ENTTTTT
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: fishs on December 17, 2011, 12:45:38 AM: Quote from: weary1969 on December 16, 2011, 05:46:58 PM
Quote from: Brownsugar on December 16, 2011, 03:13:30 PM
Miss Sita, you brave!!!......:notworthy: :notworthy:

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Weary you not working in Min of Edu?
Yuh ent fraid the minister who like to molest woman ent come after you?
Title: Re: SAT BLOCKED BLACK CHILDREN
Post by: weary1969 on December 19, 2011, 09:20:53 AM: Quote from: fishs on December 17, 2011, 12:45:38 AM
Quote from: weary1969 on December 16, 2011, 05:46:58 PM
Quote from: Brownsugar on December 16, 2011, 03:13:30 PM
Miss Sita, you brave!!!......:notworthy: :notworthy:

ENTTTTT
Weary you not working in Min of Edu?
Yuh ent fraid the minister who like to molest woman ent come after you?

I jumped b4 I was pushed. I did not ask 4 my contract 2 b renewed.
Title: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Jah Gol on November 04, 2012, 09:59:47 AM: Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Sat_defends_Jack_on_lack_of__Indian__marchers-177127671.html

By Asha Javeed asha.javeed@trinidadexpress.com
November 3, 2012
"Don't shoot the messenger."

That's the defence which Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha (SDMS) secretary general Sat Maharaj offered up for National Security Minister Jack Warner yesterday.

On Friday, Warner had dismissed the magnitude of a march inspired by the Opposition People's National Movement (PNM) and joined by various forces against the Government, in stating: "Where was the diversity? Where were the East Indians, the mixed faces, the Chinese, the whites ...where were the young people?"

Warner has already faced criticism from political analysts for questioning the ethnic make-up of the march.

But Maharaj defended the comments made by Warner on the march which drew thousands to the streets of downtown Port of Spain, and he, in turn, attacked PNM political leader Dr Keith Rowley for "inciting division in the community".

"Why blame the commentator? He was only commenting on the nature of the crowd," said Maharaj.

During last week's censure motion by the PNM against Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Warner had charged Rowley for attacking Ramlogan because of his race.

He said Indians were discriminated against for 30 years, and from 1956-1986, not a single Hindu sat in the Cabinet. And the SDMS had to go to the Privy Council to get a radio licence while Port of Spain Mayor Louis Lee Singh had his licence approved in three days by the PNM Government.

In response, Maharaj said the PNM is not reaching out to the Indian community.

"That is a fact. There is always this coded message, 'South of the River', which on its own had divided the country. The name 'Partnership' indicates the effort made to embrace the country. There are mis-steps but they are not as much as the PNM. We are not talking about Calder Hart any more. We are talking about Section 34," he said.

Maharaj observed that the Government was only two and half years old, and any coalition would suffer from some sort of fragmentation, but "this does not mean the Government has to collapse".

He said Rowley was only "inciting one side of the people".

"How many trade unions were not there? Politicians came out from their graveyards to join. You organise a march on a Friday evening in Port of Spain...you already have a built-in audience of about 100 people. As a politician, I would have advised them of that time and go down Frederick Street; you will get the curiosity-seekers, you'd block traffic, which would have given strength to your march," he said.

But Maharaj's statement did not find agreement with former prime minister Basdeo Panday.

Panday described Warner's statement as "extremely sad and unfortunate".

"No one should stir up racial sentiments for political gain. That is dangerous. We can do without the racial feelings," he said.

He told the Sunday Express he was not a "stupid coolie from San Juan" and believes the Government is clearly at a low point, and it is time to take stock.

He said the People's Partnership's tenure so far has been a "great disappointment" to the people for a Government which came into power with "tremendous support".

On Friday's march, Panday said: "It's an exercise in futility, but numbers are not the point. What is relevant is that there was a march and people were dissatisfied. The Government should do well to listen to the message, or they will pay dearly for it. All over the world, dissatisfaction has led people to resort to violence."

Former parliamentarian, soldier and 1970 mutineer Raffique Shah said he was not surprised by Warner's comments. He observed that in Trinidad and Tobago, politics was driven by ethnic composition.

He said questions are being raised on the size of the march, but if 10,000 people turned up as suggested by Warner, it was "something to note".

"It is very difficult to get 10,000 on a Friday midday to march. It was an exercise in futility. The Prime Minister is not moving either minister (Warner or Ramlogan). If they go, the Government will go because of the intricate nature of the relationships. But the demonstration made a statement," said Shah.

"In comparison to 1970, 10,000 is significant. It was a power-shaking protest movement which shook the foundations of the then PNM government. On rare occasions, you see numbers like that. Outside of a political rally, people just don't turn out to march like that. If you accept that 10,000 was the figure, it was significant. The Government should be concerned," he told the Sunday Express.

A PNM source told the Express: "The PNM will not comment on race or the ethnic make-up of the march. It's not something we do. The people will decide the make-up of the march, first, by their attendance and, second, by who they saw marching with them. It will not be what Jack Warner has said, so even responding to him is to validate his indignity and his nonsense about race. It should not be a debate after thousands took to the streets to affirm a position."

When it comes to the Section 34 fiasco though, Sat Maharaj is of the view that "if one had to go, the entire 42 has to go, too", referring to all those who passed the Bill.

"The entire Senate also has to go, too, because they all supported that Bill."

"They are accusing the Attorney General of misleading them. If people are so foolish to be misled, they should not be in positions of authority. They all supported the Bill," Maharaj told the Sunday Express.

Maharaj described Section 34 as a "mistake" but observed that governments have made many mistakes over the years.

Section 34 is a clause in the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Act which, upon early proclamation on August 30, allowed several people, among them financiers of the United National Congress (UNC) Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson and former ministers Carlos John, Russell Huggins and Brian Kuei Tung, to apply to the courts to have their cases dismissed.

The early proclamation has raised questions about the Government's integrity, a conspiracy to have these men walk free and a call by the Opposition for the heads of former minister of justice Herbert Volney, AG Ramlogan and Warner.

"It was a mistake. It was wrong to select one part to proclaim. The proclamation is where the mistake was made, and the Cabinet supported that. One man paid with his head," Maharaj told the Sunday Express.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: D.H.W on November 04, 2012, 10:40:22 AM: Basically what Jack saying , is Niggers don't matter. Even though the crowd was mixed
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: AB.Trini on November 04, 2012, 11:01:57 AM: yuh know it have some people who have been so psychologically injured by their own that in terms of ethnic growth development they turn against their own kind. Some of our present ministers appear to have suffered either isolation and may have been shunned by the former government in the past that they have this perpetual 'hate on' for anything related to the former government.

Or they dont like who they are or what they are that they denigrate all things associated with their own heritage. Hard to believe but if one was to look at studies in minority development models you will understand why it is that some could live like this.

I listened to one former minister of multiculturalism on i95,5 and his tone is so anti PNM that you have to wonder what pains of rejection he carries with him; the same could be said for one present minister who appears to always jump on teh race card as away of acknowledging his acceptance.

These are deliberate attempts to divide the country, to patronize certain fractions of the population and to denigrate those who are clamoring for justice. We need to wake up and to put these differences and look after the national interests of all TnT nationals. When would we go back to our national identity rather than this appearance of divisiveness . I want to believe that a government will do what it can for all people regardless of race. Ministers wake up and rise above self and think of all peoples who have given you the trust to govern.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: D.H.W on November 04, 2012, 01:55:37 PM: Kamla remains silent again
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: warmonga on November 04, 2012, 06:33:14 PM: Quote from: D.H.W on November 04, 2012, 01:55:37 PM
Kamla remains silent again
she had her spokes man Volney spoked for her concerning the parade of the sour puss dem(PNM supporters)
here is the entire speech ...

Volney: Marchers just beating a dead horse
Section 34 is a dead horse, former justice minister Herbert Volney said yesterday as he commented on the march in Port of Spain.

The march was organised by the Joint Trade Union Movement (JTUM) and the Opposition People's National Movement (PNM).

Volney, who was a key player in both the changes to the Administration of Justice Act which produced Section 34 as well as its early proclamation of Section 34, told the Express: "Section 34 is just the name given to marches and to anything that is anti-People's Partnership Government. And nothing was going to emerge from this march other than the trade unions and the PNM would have marched under 34 degrees of hot sun."

Volney said 34 was going to be the most popular number in this year in the country. He said there had never been so many days in which the temperature soared to 34 degrees. "And by the end of the year it would be the heat, whether political or otherwise, that would be remembered, not any Section 34."

He said the PNM was exploiting the long-settled Section 34 issue for general mobilisation, "to keep the flame of political relevance alive".

Asked whether the large numbers in the march was cause for concern, he said the People's Partnership Government could easily bring out 34,000 supporters "with just 34 hours notice" to attend a rally in Aranjuez Savannah.

"So numbers don't really mean anything until the elections come. And then whoever wins 34 seats would be able to amend the Constitution to bring about the kind of changes that we need so that it is the number that both the Government and Opposition should be looking for (in any election)," he said, playing on the number 34.

He said it is the year of 34 (in Play Whe) "the blind man". "As for myself, I was the blind man in the pack and I can now see clearly".

He said the march had nothing to do with Section 34. "Section 34 is the rallying cry for all persons who are opposed to the Government," he said, adding that
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Football supporter on November 05, 2012, 05:03:35 AM: As was the small incident when a burglary took place in a U.S. government building which anybody outside of Washington had never heard of.......Watergate
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Jah Gol on November 05, 2012, 05:58:27 AM: The government and their defenders are being very hypocritical if not naive. It is foolish to ignore thousands of people marching in the streets, regardless of what they look like. It was public discontent that brought down the last regime and same could reoccur.

Jack has been made the resident hatchet-man for all race based statements for the government. It kinda works because of the inherent irony of black man making the statement combined with the fact that he has a reputation for boldness that actually guards from scrutiny in other words he says so much shit that people don't necessarily take him on because is just madman Jack .

But its a necessary move to have Jack do the talking. In the face of this attack by the opposition the unc et al must secure the base so no significant political gains would be made.It is a scintillating strategy. This however is the dangerous part :

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'We will honour our five-year mandate'
By Susan Mohammed susan.mohammed@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Nov 4, 2012 at 9:51 PM ECT

Story Updated: Nov 5, 2012 at 7:34 AM ECT

LET not your heart be troubled.

This was the reassurance given by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar on Saturday evening as she said her Government would not give in to intimidation and they would serve the full five-year term in office.

Persad-Bissessar also sought to reassure her audience, which comprised mainly of her constituents from the Penal/Siparia constituency, that the Government had passed "the rough waters".

The PM spoke at the 15th annual Divali celebration hosted by the Siparia Women's Group at the Siparia Constituency Office at Penal.

"Let not your heart be troubled," the Prime Minister said. "You gave us a mandate of five years and we of the Government will make sure to honour that mandate for the full five years. We are not afraid, will not be deterred, we will not be intimidated. We will do what is right, when it is right. And when issues come before us, we will put God in front and we will walk behind. We will always be guided by that divine light. We can only do it with your love and support, that love that you have shown for the last two and a half years and even before. And as we go into the next two and a half years, I give you this assurance."

And Persad-Bissessar thanked her supporters for their love and support during the past 25 years of her political life.

"I will be here with you tonight and tomorrow."

The Prime Minister said she would deal with the issues that face her and her Government.

"When wrong comes to light we will deal with it, and when right comes to light, I will praise it. Again, I repeat, let not your heart be troubled.

"We have gone though some rough pathways and waters. But the ship has sailed and we can only do it because you all are the wind beneath our wings. We thank you for that," she said.

On Friday, thousands of citizens from a coalition of political parties, trade unions and civic groups, including the People's National Movement, Oilfields Workers' Trade Union, Movement for Social Justice and Democratic National Assembly, took to the streets of Port of Spain and marched against the governance of the country.

They held a vote at a gathering at the Brian Lara Promenade and called for Minister of National Security Jack Warner and Attorney Anand Ramlogan to be fired.

Several Government Ministers attended Saturday's Divali celebration, including AG Ramlogan, Minister in the Ministry of Local Government Rudranath Indarsingh, Energy Minister Kevin Ramnarine, Education Minister Tim Gopeesingh, and People and Social Development Minister Glenn Ramamdharsingh.

Ramnarine was the only one who commented on the march as he delivered greetings to the audience.

He said: "Prime Minister, tonight we dispel some of the darkness that set itself on Port of Spain yesterday (Friday). We see a lot of love when we come down here, a lot of light, a lot of happiness and prosperity. I can tell you as Minister of Energy, this country is a prosperous country and will continue to be a prosperous country for a very long time under this Prime Minister."

Ramlogan, in delivering his greetings, said: "The ship is in safe hands. The ship is in safe and capable hands."

Apparently we have two nations in one country or at least that's the way KPB wants to govern.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Dutty on November 05, 2012, 06:59:13 AM: Liburd run a James Bond theme on dis one
http://www.wired868.com/2012/11/03/witnessing-warners-skyfall/ (http://www.wired868.com/2012/11/03/witnessing-warners-skyfall/)
caption contest?
(http://www.wired868.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Kamla_and_Jack_Warner.jpg)

The one thing that disappointed me about James Bond films was the bad guys.

In the beginning of every film, we were introduced to a super villain of incredible genius, whose detail to planning was revealed in his dastardly plot to rule the world from an immense secret structure manned by hundreds of dedicated militia.

Totally evil, yet decidedly smooth and scheming, these control freaks seemed unstoppable. Yet after our hero, the only man who’s surname both precedes and follows his Christian name—Bond, James Bond—gets on the case, the arch villain becomes a babbling psychopath, whose furious panic results in his ultimate destruction.

I mean, if this ultra-bad guy is so cunning, if he can face down superpowers, royalty and armed forces, how does one man rattle him?

So, I wondered, is Austin Jack Warner a creation of Ian Fleming?

Watching his insane ranting over the last two days against the Section 34 march, Mr Warner seems to becoming more and more unravelled.

Let’s face it, if he was anymore in denial, he’d be sitting in Egypt next to the pyramids, knee deep in that great African river. The Nile, that is. But I digress.

From the photos and video shown on television and the internet, it is clear that there were a substantial number of people on the march. Some say 30,000. Some police are quoted at 25,000. So, perhaps, a conservative estimate would be 20,000?

Jack the Tripper saw only 3,000 persons and insisted that East Indians, Chinese and youths were not represented. For Your Eyes Only, sir.

Jack seems to see race in everything these days. The former self-proclaimed HNIC, in his desperation to preserve power, is upstaging the likes of Sat Maharaj as a defender of the Indian race. Diamonds Are Forever, Jack, and so is your race.

Of course, Warner’s inability to tabulate big numbers should be no surprise. In 1989, he allegedly sold 45,000 tickets for a stadium that held 25,000 while his suggestion to the 2006 “Soca Warriors” that half of $200 million equated to around $125,000 was proved to be profoundly incorrect.

Yesterday may well be yesterday, Jack, but Tomorrow Never Dies.

So, even with the aid of three police photographers and two police cameramen, it shouldn’t surprise us that Warner’s crowd estimate was so far off target.

Although it was quite right and proper for the march to be shepherded by the police, was the costly use of the National Security helicopter really warranted?

Maybe Jack should have leant out of his window and counted the protesters when they stopped at his office to demand his resignation. That is, if he can tally beyond 69 or even 34.

Warner is the opposition’s most potent weapon. Every time he opens his mouth, more potential votes are lost.

What foreign government would share sensitive intelligence data with this buffoon? His international reputation, at best, is one of a crooked manipulator.

Keith Rowley is no James Bond and closer resembled a Dr No within his own party in recent years. But he is surely benefitting from Warner’s repeated attacks.

It concerns me greatly that the Prime Minister continues to stay silent while Warner makes public statements which bring ridicule on her government and scares The Living Daylights out of right thinking citizens.

For Warner, The World Is Not Enough and I doubt he can be saved from his collision course with destiny.

If the People’s Partnership does not address its loose cannon soon, the remaining two years of its term will be merely a Quantum of Solace. The final verdict will not be delivered by Goldfinger but rather our voting fingers.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: truetrini on November 05, 2012, 07:10:15 AM: It was black people marching that brought many, many changes to the way lives improved in T&T...over and over agin that has been the case.

Most times, Indians, Chinese, whites and other groups got on board AFTER the fact!

Things that History teaches us!

1. Eric Williams...Independence...opposed by Indians
2. Butler.....workers' rights and equality.
3. Geddes Granger aka Daaga...Black power that led to jobs for indians and black people in financial institutions, use of certain beaches.

They march for Axe the Tax and now dey bringing it back.

Doh hate on me for pointing out the facts just absorb dem
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: truetrini on November 05, 2012, 07:10:31 AM: http://www.guardian.co.tt/letters/2012-11-04/it-just-history-repeating-itself

Oh shit look....
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Deeks on November 05, 2012, 09:07:46 AM: she had her spokes man Volney spoked for her concerning the parade of the sour puss dem(PNM supporters)
here is the entire speech ...

War, Bro, you mean her hatchetman. You realized that she had to relieve(fired, if you want) him of his position because of the heat that she was expecting for the underhand section 34 move. Most things coming from Volney's mouth is pure tata ..... well for you, it may be pure poetry. That man is totally devious.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: warmonga on November 05, 2012, 10:59:56 AM: I dont understand what people want from the woman. I simply think people on this forum and PNM sour pussy dont like she because she a f**king Indian.. I mean since she tek over all di kidnapping of Indians has stop.. so was PNM behind di kidnapping of indian people? Our artist dem getting recongnition wid big money.. the basketball team run by manning all this years eh get a cent now they getting money ,, our olympians get rell dollars including the white bwoy who manning eh gave a f**king cent.. wey allyuh PNM cock suckers want frm she eh? Low di f**king woman fi run di country and when election time come vote she out if allyuh eh like she nah.. cheups all this f**king marching and thing is nonsence.. a bunch of lazy wutless f**ks roaming the streets for nothing.. I wish the police the put sum facking bullet in all a dem.. I personally believe she have more facking balls than USA battyman president Obama . If african support she allyuh vexs, if Indian support she allyuh vexs, allyuh rell f**king wutless in this forum wey .. Come election if allyuh wah drink drain water, and kidnapp coolie people vote PNM , low di woman she alloted years ..cheups.. lemme guh smoke another joint before I loose mi facking head eh///////
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: Deeks on November 05, 2012, 12:59:10 PM: dont like she because she a f**king Indian

War, bull f--kin' shit. KPB won the election fair and square. She got a mandate from the people. From the time she pick Jack on she team, I know she was in for thunder. You yourself know the modus operandi of Jack and she gone to bed with him and you expect people to side with she. Let me make it plain. She is my PM too, although I may not agree with her 100%. If he ministers effing up, she go get thunder like we use to give Patos and he arrogant self. God back and check previous post when Rowley was confronting Calder Hart and Patos. You like Growley then.

Ask Weary who she voted for in the last election. I have Afro Trini friends who told me frankomently that they were not voting for Patos in the last elections. And doh come with, " because she is INdian".

We Afros overs that. If Afro Trinis was anti_Indian, TT would have be like SriLanka or Fiji. We would shun buying roti and doubles from the vendors who use to come by St. Joseph and Tunapuna RC schools. How come QRC would have an Indian family running they canteen for years. We never thought twice about it. Why? Because "All ah we is one". .I eh sure bout that now. Afros more boycott they own than the other. Bro, some of we have blood of both people in we veins, so doh come with that shit.

As long as she have Jack, Anand and Anil spewin' tata, she in for thundah.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: lefty on November 05, 2012, 02:04:18 PM: Quote from: Deeks on November 05, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
dont like she because she a f**king Indian

War, bull f--kin' shit. KPB won the election fair and square. She got a mandate from the people. From the time she pick Jack on she team, I know she was in for thunder. You yourself know the modus operandi of Jack and she gone to bed with him and you expect people to side with she. Let me make it plain. She is my PM too, although I may not agree with her 100%. If he ministers effing up, she go get thunder like we use to give Patos and he arrogant self. God back and check previous post when Rowley was confronting Calder Hart and Patos. You like Growley then.

Ask Weary who she voted for in the last election. I have Afro Trini friends who told me frankomently that they were not voting for Patos in the last elections. And doh come with, " because she is INdian".

We Afros overs that. If Afro Trinis was anti_Indian, TT would have be like SriLanka or Fiji. We would shun buying roti and doubles from the vendors who use to come by St. Joseph and Tunapuna RC schools. How come QRC would have an Indian family running they canteen for years. We never thought twice about it. Why? Because "All ah we is one". .I eh sure bout that now. Afros more boycott they own than the other. Bro, some of we have blood of both people in we veins, so doh come with that shit.

As long as she have Jack, Anand and Anil spewin' tata, she in for thundah.

u have time dat moron get made out for what he is long time
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: weary1969 on November 05, 2012, 02:26:23 PM: Quote from: lefty on November 05, 2012, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: Deeks on November 05, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
dont like she because she a f**king Indian

War, bull f--kin' shit. KPB won the election fair and square. She got a mandate from the people. From the time she pick Jack on she team, I know she was in for thunder. You yourself know the modus operandi of Jack and she gone to bed with him and you expect people to side with she. Let me make it plain. She is my PM too, although I may not agree with her 100%. If he ministers effing up, she go get thunder like we use to give Patos and he arrogant self. God back and check previous post when Rowley was confronting Calder Hart and Patos. You like Growley then.

Ask Weary who she voted for in the last election. I have Afro Trini friends who told me frankomently that they were not voting for Patos in the last elections. And doh come with, " because she is INdian".

We Afros overs that. If Afro Trinis was anti_Indian, TT would have be like SriLanka or Fiji. We would shun buying roti and doubles from the vendors who use to come by St. Joseph and Tunapuna RC schools. How come QRC would have an Indian family running they canteen for years. We never thought twice about it. Why? Because "All ah we is one". .I eh sure bout that now. Afros more boycott they own than the other. Bro, some of we have blood of both people in we veins, so doh come with that shit.

As long as she have Jack, Anand and Anil spewin' tata, she in for thundah.

u have time dat moron get made out for what he is long time

ENTTTTTT
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: MEP on November 05, 2012, 08:25:35 PM: Quote from: warmonga on November 05, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
I dont understand what people want from the woman. I simply think people on this forum and PNM sour pussy dont like she because she a f**king Indian.. I mean since she tek over all di kidnapping of Indians has stop.. so was PNM behind di kidnapping of indian people? Our artist dem getting recongnition wid big money.. the basketball team run by manning all this years eh get a cent now they getting money ,, our olympians get rell dollars including the white bwoy who manning eh gave a f**king cent.. wey allyuh PNM cock suckers want frm she eh? Low di f**king woman fi run di country and when election time come vote she out if allyuh eh like she nah.. cheups all this f**king marching and thing is nonsence.. a bunch of lazy wutless f**ks roaming the streets for nothing.. I wish the police the put sum facking bullet in all a dem.. I personally believe she have more facking balls than USA battyman president Obama . If african support she allyuh vexs, if Indian support she allyuh vexs, allyuh rell f**king wutless in this forum wey .. Come election if allyuh wah drink drain water, and kidnapp coolie people vote PNM , low di woman she alloted years ..cheups.. lemme guh smoke another joint before I loose mi facking head eh///////

talk padnah talk ..yuh true colors showin....
my suggestion to you is that you not smoke so much weed cause it's apparently depleting the few brain cells you have left.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: congo on November 06, 2012, 12:10:18 AM: The operations of SAUTT resulted in kidnappings going down. UNC eh solve no kidnappings. Don't be fooled.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: warmonga on November 06, 2012, 01:23:23 AM: Quote from: congo on November 06, 2012, 12:10:18 AM
The operations of SAUTT resulted in kidnappings going down. UNC eh solve no kidnappings. Don't be fooled.
sautt mi ass pnm was behind di kidnappin we all know dat.. low di freeking woman ley she govern di freeking country and then vote allyuh party in .. all di years I never hear bout unc supporters marching .. bunch a f**king sour puss is PNM and the supporters.. allyuh know jack wid she all this time before allyuh say allyuh vote for she .. PNM is jes sour puss and as for my true colors showing I like dat MEP.. This indian doh hide behind no pc to tell sour pussies how I feal..long plain and straight and who nuh like it Jump back innah dem fadda fart hole... cause mi nuh have time for faggots, Ugly people and PNM supporters...

war
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: lefty on November 06, 2012, 05:14:53 AM: again alyuh have time...............an is d UNC responsible for d "kidnapping of Indians" falsifying ah serious crime to to push ah political agenda and it get real...........steups
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: D.H.W on November 06, 2012, 05:33:44 AM: Kidnappings stop after they arrested the military officer running the ring. During the PNM administration. PP came into government way after the kidnapping stop.
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: just cool on November 06, 2012, 05:58:57 AM: Allyuh have time wid dat racist coolie??!!

check out the ppl he does harass (manning, rowley, obama) and you will know dat he's ah fackin bush indian, and most bush indian hate fackin nayger wid ah passion, no matter how much good the PNM do fuh indian they still hate the PNM bc panday and capeldeo told dem that PNM is ah nayger party.

he have all this to say bout the PNM, but is the PNM who was responsible for indian wealth in T&T. under the colonial british indians was suckin salt livin in extreme poverty, it's only when T&T gain independence that indians start amassing wealth.

mutilal moonan, amar, sammy, ramlochan, pilai, all ah dem get rich from PNM contracts!!!! matter of fact they were the ones to replace big foreign contractors like raymond and wimpey.

fellas like george weeks and lloyd best stood up and fought for fair pay and proper working condition but never reap the benefits, rather it was the indian community above all the demographic out side of the ruling whites and french creole who gained the most under the PNM,

sooo you should hush yuh mudda c**t about PNM doh like indian, bc is we nigger who PNM doh like! they did fack all for we who had them in power for over 4 decades, ah real fackin vex now wid all this hate and divide fackin rhetoric wid this racist mdacnt! boy , yuh better go from fackin here wid dat country coolie propaganda eh!!!!!!

to all the indian ppl on the board sorry for the use of certain words, for the record , i eh hate indian ppl ,or no body else for dat matter, but this racist boy name rajesh maraj AKA whoremonger is ah real fackin bigot and he must be stopped, bc he's over steppin now, and somebody have tuh step in his racist face!

i really despise country bookie indian who always on the race tip, why dem ppl doh go back to their home land if they don't want to integrate?? why must we have to walk on egg shells all the time bc they have ah chip on their shoulders, and BTW, why somebody doh shoot sat maraj and put that old stinkin bigot out of his racist misery? all he doin is dividing the country. stuueepppsss!!!!!!

the PNM is not ah nayger party, it's the party of the ppl! bc it have indian, whites, africans, asians and hispanics who is staunch PNM, so what's wid all the nigger indian rivalry bro?? stop the fackry already guy!!
Title: Re: Sat defends Jack on lack of 'Indian' marchers
Post by: lefty on November 06, 2012, 06:33:24 AM: cool........as despicable as a character war is, he entitle to his opinion, as racist and as nasty is it is.............jus ignore d trolling fuucker.......as I am about to resume doin'..............good day
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Controversial on November 06, 2012, 09:44:29 AM: :D you know what is the funny thing about this thread, is that people actually get caught up in the divide and conquer rhetoric of tt politics, so much so that they take sides..

ask yourself a question, who do you think really runs TT? if you can answer that question and its more than meets the eye, you know the dynamics of politics in tt
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: warmonga on November 06, 2012, 10:12:47 AM: Quote from: D.H.W on November 06, 2012, 05:33:44 AM
Kidnappings stop after they arrested the military officer running the ring. During the PNM administration. PP came into government way after the kidnapping stop.
ok obama phone lady...
war
Title: PNM PLANTS
Post by: 1-868 on May 31, 2014, 03:57:37 AM: http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PNM-PLANTS-261343931.html

Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha secretary-general Sat Maharaj is confident the People’s Partnership Government would properly and equitably deliver resources if given a second term in office.
Maharaj said the Kamla Persad-Bissessar-led Government had successfully delivered across the country.
Speaking at the Maha Sabha’s Indian Arrival Day celebrations in Debe yesterday, Maharaj said for the past 50 years all major developments have taken place north of the Caroni River.
“And every time an effort is made to develop the rest of Trinidad and Tobago, there is an outcry. But what is south of the Caroni River? All the oil wells that produce the wealth, the Pitch Lake. So all the wealth from Central and South must go to develop only the North. That is the philosophy of Eric Williams and the PNM,” he said.
Maharaj pointed out the turn of events that occurred when the People’s Partnership Government assumed office.
He said, “I want to point out to you what is taking place in this Debe and Penal catchment. I am saying that within a few years, Debe will be an extension of San Fernando. I want to thank the Prime Minister and her Cabinet for equitably distributing the wealth of this country. All we ask for is equity. Don’t give us more than you give anybody else.”
Maharaj said previous governments have tried to spread the wealth, but failed because of the People’s National Movement (PNM) civil servants planted in all sectors.
“The battle has now begun. Any government that gets into office for the full five years, you can’t do anything because the civil servants [lock] you in. Robinson could not last more than five years, Panday couldn’t last more than five years because you got to get past the civil servants who have been planted there by the PNM. They plant two generations of civil servants to block you. So I am saying this Government must get its second five-year to properly deliver,” he said.
Persad-Bissessar, who participated in the Indian Arrival Day procession which ended at Parvati Girls’ College, said her People’s Partnership Government was the only administration to invest in evert part of Trinidad and Tobago.
“Anywhere of the country you go, you will see development taking place. So do not get fooled with the rhetoric that my Government is only interested in developing certain parts of Trinidad and Tobago,” she said.
Persad-Bissessar paid tribute to Maharaj for his determination. She described him as a fearless fighter and warrior. “He has shown us that you must speak when you can and where you can. You must not remain docile and afraid. You are a citizen of this land just like every other citizen,” she said.
Persad-Bissessar presented the Maha Sabha with two cheques totalling $750,000 to offset expenses for the Indian Arrival Day celebrations.
And as he thanked Persad-Bissessar for the financial contribution, Maharaj noted it was not the same value as other sectors have received for hosting similar celebrations. He said the money would go toward the Maha Sabha schools. “All we ask is equity,” he said.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: AB.Trini on May 31, 2014, 07:46:24 AM: Yuh know on a time when allegations are rampant about political parties 'planting' others to attack their rivals you does have to wonder about individuals like Sat. Bias , clearly driven with an agenda -why would individuals who have shown their actions as divisive to the unity of TnTbe given any credence for their statements?
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Controversial on May 31, 2014, 08:24:13 AM: Quote from: lefty on November 06, 2012, 05:14:53 AM
again alyuh have time...............an is d UNC responsible for d "kidnapping of Indians" falsifying ah serious crime to to push ah political agenda and it get real...........steups

i now see this thread :D :D :D real tension...

but i'll add my 2 cents... i held a political forum on TT, with very distinguished officials from TT that are connected straight to the pm and senate, many years ago.. one official and i will not name his name who is a friend and was very close with all the pms told the reporter to take off the tape..

he said a certain arm of the govt and others appointed by the then govt in charge was involved in the kidnapping, as a very prominent businessman swore that if a member of his family was not returned safely.. he would spend over 100 million to make the men pay who was behind it... need i say more... the man was returned to his family... the official is not indian and has no allegiances...

so when people tell me they know who kidnap who, i does laugh bc i know better and know details that cannot be shared on the net...
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: weary1969 on May 31, 2014, 02:27:01 PM: Sat get 750,000 and people cyah get proper health care. Thanks Kams
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: royal on May 31, 2014, 08:00:01 PM: Sat being divisive

Al-Rawi slams claims of biased national policy by PNM:

By By Joel Julien joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: May 31, 2014 at 8:43 PM ECT

(Story Updated: May 31, 2014 at 8:43 PM ECT )

OPPOSITION Senator Faris Al-Rawi yesterday described claims by Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha secretary-general Sat Maharaj of a biased national development policy implemented over time by the People’s National Movement (PNM) as being “dangerously divisive”.

Al-Rawi, the PNM’s public relations officer, criticised Maharaj for his statements and said they were out of place.

Speaking at his organi-

sation’s Indian Arrival Day celebrations in Debe on Fri-

day, Maharaj said for the

past 50 years, all major de-

velopments have taken place north of the Caroni River.

“And every time an effort is made to develop the rest of Trinidad and Tobago, there is an outcry. But what is south of the Caroni River? All the oil wells that produce the wealth, the Pitch Lake. So all the wealth from Central and South must go to develop only the North. That is the philosophy of Eric Williams and the PNM,” Maharaj said.

Speaking to the Sunday Express, Al-Rawi said Maharaj’s statements about the PNM were “regrettable” and wrong.

“It is regrettable that Mr Maharaj should, as a leader of a particular section of Trinidadian society, choose to make very divisive statements which in our view does not reflect the facts of

the development of Trinidad and Tobago,” Al-Rawi said.

He invited Maharaj to visit several developments encouraged by the PNM throughout the country.

“The PNM, as the longest serving political party in this country, pioneered industrial development throughout Trinidad and Tobago, which sparked growth in the economy and resulted in serious improvement of value of real estate, certainly, south of the Caroni, to use Mr Maharaj’s words,” Al-Rawi said.

“We would invite him to visit the Point Lisas Industrial Estate, which is

certainly not in north Trinidad; we invite him to visit the estates in La Brea and Mayaro which are certainly not in north Trinidad. We invite him to witness the powerhouse that San Fernando is in pioneering the energy sector, certainly not in north Trinidad

“We invite him to visit the thousands of houses built everywhere other than in north Trinidad, and we invite him to reflect upon the legislation brought by the PNM, including, in particular, the Education Bill, Caroni (1975) Bill and the

Industrial Stabilisation Act, which as the grandson of Lionel Seukeran can cer-

tainly say the PNM piloted to the benefit of all citi-

zens of Trinidad and Toba-

go and, in particular, the children of indentured servants,” he said.

“Mr Maharaj’s revision-

ism is a clawback to ana-

chronistic politics and is dangerously divisive,” Al-Rawi added.

“The PNM, under Dr Keith Rowley, is interested in the development of all of Trinidad and Tobago as Dr Rowley’s advocacy of rural development and a national translocation policy with local government reform, to name a few, clearly demonstrates,” he said.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Sando prince on July 15, 2016, 12:17:30 AM: Allyuh aint hear Sat Maharaj spilling he guts today causing racial divide once again. My question is why a mainstream media house like the Guardian give him a column to write every week? They do not care about their reputation? His racial rants originated from the Guardian
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: weary1969 on July 15, 2016, 09:27:43 AM: Quote from: Sando prince on July 15, 2016, 12:17:30 AM
Allyuh aint hear Sat Maharaj spilling he guts today causing racial divide once again. My question is why a mainstream media house like the Guardian give him a column to write every week? They do not care about their reputation? His racial rants originated from the Guardian

Nobody reads the Guardian so is not a problem. The Syrians vex they soon lost their rent money. What people need to do is boycott Ansa Mcal but Carib have to drink and furniture have to buy from Standard. I personally seeking out all their companies my personal boycott has begun which really is boycotting Standard.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Sando prince on July 15, 2016, 11:02:10 AM: Ah glad to see the Prime Minister came out and shut Sat down. He took his time to inform the country on the facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedwdRRCP6Q&feature=share
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: weary1969 on July 15, 2016, 11:44:18 AM: Quote from: Sando prince on July 15, 2016, 11:02:10 AM

Ah glad to see the Prime Minister came out and shut Sat down. He took his time to inform the country on the facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedwdRRCP6Q&feature=share

YES HE DID BUT THE dUNCe it will make no difference. As Brian Manning said those with understanding know better the others will not be convinced.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 17, 2016, 02:46:08 AM: Sat Maharaj is ah excuse for ah co*lie.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Bourbon on July 17, 2016, 09:03:43 AM: Even when countered with Rowley's rebuttal, Sat said that is his opinion and he stands by it. And Kamla defends his opinion.

Small ting. I wonder if the outpouring of tribute and goodwill Manning had upon his death would happen when Sat dies?
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Deeks on July 17, 2016, 10:44:57 AM: Quote from: davyjenny1 on July 17, 2016, 02:46:08 AM
Sat Maharaj is ah excuse for ah co*lie.

Breds, I and you disagree with Sat, but let us not occupy the gutter as he has placed himself in.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 17, 2016, 10:20:46 PM: Quote from: Deeks on July 17, 2016, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: davyjenny1 on July 17, 2016, 02:46:08 AM
Sat Maharaj is ah excuse for ah co*lie.

Breds, I and you disagree with Sat, but let us not occupy the gutter as he has placed himself in.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: weary1969 on July 18, 2016, 11:29:47 AM: Quote from: Bourbon on July 17, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
Even when countered with Rowley's rebuttal, Sat said that is his opinion and he stands by it. And Kamla defends his opinion.

Small ting. I wonder if the outpouring of tribute and goodwill Manning had upon his death would happen when Sat dies?

Please the celebrations would be epic it will be paled when compared to Thatcher when they sang Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: Bourbon on July 18, 2016, 08:04:34 PM: Quote from: weary1969 on July 18, 2016, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Bourbon on July 17, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
Even when countered with Rowley's rebuttal, Sat said that is his opinion and he stands by it. And Kamla defends his opinion.

Small ting. I wonder if the outpouring of tribute and goodwill Manning had upon his death would happen when Sat dies?

Please the celebrations would be epic it will be paled when compared to Thatcher when they sang Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.

That would trigger a last set of comess with which he would be proud.

Personally...I think If Sat dead...I think I'll try not to have anything bad to say about him.

It certainly would be a herculean effort on my part to have anything good to say though.
Title: Re: The Sat Maharaj Thread
Post by: weary1969 on July 19, 2016, 09:31:39 AM: Quote from: Bourbon on July 18, 2016, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: weary1969 on July 18, 2016, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Bourbon on July 17, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
Even when countered with Rowley's rebuttal, Sat said that is his opinion and he stands by it. And Kamla defends his opinion.

Small ting. I wonder if the outpouring of tribute and goodwill Manning had upon his death would happen when Sat dies?

Please the celebrations would be epic it will be paled when compared to Thatcher when they sang Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.

That would trigger a last set of comess with which he would be proud.

Personally...I think If Sat dead...I think I'll try not to have anything bad to say about him.

It certainly would be a herculean effort on my part to have anything good to say though.

It eh have nutten good to say about that miscreant it will be hard not to take out the advert ding dong the warlock is dead.

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