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Title: Who's the best????
Post by: Ponnoxx on January 30, 2008, 01:08:35 AM
 In my opinion Robinho is the best player in the world right now. Who you guys think is the best currently? I tell men about Robinho ...the man is no joke nah
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: just cool on January 30, 2008, 04:03:27 AM
That's a no brainer!!!! christianooooooo oooooffffff caaaaaaaaauuuuuuuussssssseeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Warrior till death on January 30, 2008, 06:37:33 AM
...to say Robinho is the best player in the world, is shit talk,u obvioulsy dont know football.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Sam on January 30, 2008, 06:43:36 AM
Ah man say Robinho ....  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Brazil fans might really be bias.... I am beginnig to think that....
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: stillmatic on January 30, 2008, 06:50:13 AM
Kaka is the bess player.....Robinho will be there soon....he is playing a big role in madrid march towards the title.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: spideybuff on January 30, 2008, 07:05:26 AM
u should try this poll again when Messi fit...
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2008, 07:54:47 AM
On Current Form...Cristiano is the best at the moment
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: spideybuff on January 30, 2008, 08:00:31 AM
U know Small M...looking at your signature : It kinda wrong to have a HOLY trinity playing for a side called red DEVILS.  ;D
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2008, 08:03:20 AM
U know Small M...looking at your signature : It kinda wrong to have a HOLY trinity playing for a side called red DEVILS.  ;D

true lol..

but i dont care..  i made up that name for them and its spreading
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Daft Trini on January 30, 2008, 08:23:37 AM
U know Small M...looking at your signature : It kinda wrong to have a HOLY trinity playing for a side called red DEVILS.  ;D

I went to ah church dinner and dey was serving deviled eggs!  :rotfl:

Do your thing Smallie....
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: kicker on January 30, 2008, 08:56:43 AM
...to say Robinho is the best player in the world, is shit talk,u obvioulsy dont know football.


How many Real Madrid games have you seen this season? Just curious.

Ah man say Robinho ....  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Brazil fans might really be bias.... I am beginnig to think that....

Same question to you Sam....

Not saying Ponnoxx isn't biased, because I know he's a Brazil & a Madrid fan (like me), but alotta the hype around C Ronaldo is biased as well, not through anyone's fault but because of the closer coverage, broadcasting & marketing of the EPL on mainstream TV (particularly FSC).....

I myself haven't been able to follow la liga as closely as usual this season, but from all accounts Robinho is having a very big year. (Let's also not forget how he carried Brazil on his shoulders for the majority of the copa america last year)- I don't think it's that outrageous to consider him the best or at least amongst the best....
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: real madness on January 30, 2008, 09:19:12 AM
i see small mag say based on current form CR is the best..that leads to my question..are we talking about form or skill/talent?

i would say kaka is the best player in the world...CR is in the best form right now and he is the 3rd best player in the world....messi is the 2nd best player in the world

robinho is good but i just don't see him being a dominant player with the exception of the last copa america and the last month in the spanish league..u have to do it on ah regular basis not just for a few months.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2008, 09:23:35 AM
Robinho??   :rotfl: :rotfl:

The best player at any given time for me has to exhibit the capability to single-handedly grab a game by the scruff of the neck and solely influence the result.. And not just any game against Wigan, Almeria or Catania. Big games too..

There was a time where i thought 5 people could have done that... Rivaldo, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Gerrard and Totti.

Right now only 3 showing me that.. Messi, Kaka and Cristiano Ronaldo..

Given that I have not seen Cristiano excel as much against the top two sides, or at the latter phases of European competitions, I have to say Kaka is the best right now -- followed by Messi (tore apart Real madrid and chelsea) and then closely followed by CR7

Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: jai john on January 30, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Robinho??   :rotfl: :rotfl:

The best player at any given time for me has to exhibit the capability to single-handedly grab a game by the scruff of the neck and solely influence the result.. And not just any game against Wigan, Almeria or Catania. Big games too.


Then juan roman riquleme should be on that list . Kaka is more consistent though and will get my vote. For a best performance rating then none can beat out the boca Juniors and Argentina genius. he just needs to do it more ofen.
I see Messi on the list but Messi pl;ays for Argentina the same team in which Riquelme has clearly dominated both at the last Copa America nad w/C qualifying so something is definetely wrong with the list.

Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: jai john on January 30, 2008, 09:48:47 AM
before I get jumped on for my Riquelme should be on the list comment...two players mentioned played in the copa america .. Robinho and Messi ...  take a look at a review of the tournament. notice the commentator had no brief for Argrentina and slammed their performance in the final ..


.Copa America 2007 Review
Published: 17 July 2007
by Andrew Cherrie
After 26 games, 86 goals and exhilarating football played by some of the greatest players in world football, the Copa America has come to an end.

Brazil retained their Copa crown with a tactically superior 3-0 victory over an Argentina side whose mesmerising football had enchanted fans worldwide throughout the tournament, but who fell short once again at the final hurdle.

This edition of the Copa America can be considered a hearty success, perhaps even the best of all-time. Here is, in no particular order, the good, the bad and the Carlos Tevez of the Copa America Venezuela 2007:

Player of the tournament: Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina)

The term ‘world-class’ is often dished out to players who are not deserving of the title, though Juan Roman Riquelme is not one of them. Pivotal in every Argentina attack, Riquelme displayed himself as the complete attacking midfield player. Not only was he the second top scorer with five goals, but he also was vital in the build up to a number of goals, showing why he was such an important component of Boca’s Copa Libertadores winning side. Nothing short of extraordinary. Almost faultless, though his sub-standard performance in the Final would have left a bitter taste.
Worthy mentions: Robinho (Brazil), Castillo (Mexico), Suazo (Chile).

Match of the tournament: Mexico 0-3 Argentina (Semi Final)

On the basis of Argentina’s elegant second half display alone, this was the greatest game of the tournament. Mexico put on a stern, yet enjoyable, defensive performance in the first-half to suffocate Argentina’s creative assets, though five minutes of flagging concentration allowed Heinze to give Argentina a somewhat undeserved lead from a set-piece. Resistance was futile eventually, as the frontline of Messi, Tevez and Riquelme combined to produce the most perfectly rounded attacking show seen in years to propel their team to the final. After the game, one journalist went so far as to brand Argentina as the ‘team of the decade’. Not far wrong.
Worthy mentions: Uruguay 2-2 Brazil (Semi Final), Paraguay 5-0 Colombia, Brazil 3-0 Argentina (Final).

Surprise package: Venezuela

A case could be made for Brazil as the tournament’s surprise package as nobody expected them to be crowned champions with a bit-part squad and a manager with non-existent coaching experience, but it’s Venezuela who take the accolade. The host team progressed to the Quarter-Finals for the first time in history whilst riding on the wave of the country’s sudden explosion of enthusiasm for the game. Their 2-0 victory over Peru in the group stage was La Vinotinto’s first Copa America victory since 1967.
Worthy mention: Uruguay

Miss of the tournament: Nery Castillo vs Brazil

After scoring a fantastic opening goal to set Mexico on their way to a 2-0 victory over Brazil early on in the match, Nery Castillo had the opportunity to round off the win when he was left one-on-one with the goalkeeper deep into injury time. He managed to carry out all the hard work, outpacing last-man Alex and rounding Doni in the Brazilian goal, but with an open goal at his mercy he somehow managed to flunk the ball over the crossbar from 8 yards.
Worthy mention: Robinho vs Ecuador

Funkiest celebration: Julio Baptista

Baptista is joined in a rumba by team-mates Robinho and Vagner Love after putting Brazil 2-0 up against Chile.

Ugliest footballer: Carlos Tevez

Because Ronaldinho was absent from the tournament, Carlos Tevez has the displeasure of taking the award. If it wasn’t bad enough having a see-through hole in his neck the size of the Channel Tunnel (the result of a childhood accident), Tevez now resembles the creation of a certain Doctor Frankenstein to boot. No wonder opposition defences are scared by the prospect of facing him. He can’t half play football, though.
Worthy mention: Ronaldinho (he’s not at the tournament, but he deserves a place here nonetheless)

Let down of the tournament: Argentina

They promised so much with their brand of open, expansive football throughout the competition but once again failed to deliver the goods when it really counted. As with the 2004 Copa America Final and the deciding game of the Confederations Cup in 2005, Argentina slipped up dismally against Brazil when they were within touching distance of a trophy, denying them a success which they so deserved. This Argentina team is bound to draw comparison to the ‘Total Football’ Dutch side of 1970’s, who despite having the greatest national team of the period, failed to gain a single piece of silverware. At every big international tournament in recent years they have been cited among the favourites, yet Argentina’s trophy-less streak is currently at 14 years and counting.
Worthy mentions: Ecuador, United States, Colombia.

Young gun: Lionel Messi

At just 20 years old and having just completed his second full season of professional football, to say Lionel Messi has a bright future ahead of him is something of an understatement. The Barcelona starlet was a vital cog in Argentina’s attacking machine, chipping in with 2 goals and creating a handful of assists. To add to his strike against Peru in the Quarter-Final was his Semi-Final finish versus Mexico, which leads us nicely on to the next section…
Worthy mentions: Castillo (Mexico), Cristian Rodriguez (Uruguay)

Goal of the tournament: Lionel Messi vs Mexico

"Only a genius could do this," proclaimed Argentina boss Alfio Basile of Messi’s strike. After being found in space by Carlos Tevez on the right, Messi took one look up, composed himself and lifted the ball gracefully with one swift yet delicate swipe of his weaker left foot over the head of flailing gaolkeeper Oswaldo Sanchez as the whole stadium rose to acknowledge the magic of Messi. Genius indeed.
Worthy mentions: Suazo (Chile vs Brazil), Guardado (Mexico vs Uruguay), Garcia (Uruguay vs Venezuela).

Team of the tournament:

Doni (Brazil)

Maicon (Brazil) - Alex (Brazil) – Marquez (Mexico) – Zanetti (Argentina)

Mascherano (Argentina)

Suazo (Chile) – Riquelme (Argentina) – Baptista (Brazil)

Robinho (Brazil) – Castillo (Mexico)

Subs:

Sanchez (Mexico)
Gilberto (Brazil)
Cambiasso (Argentina)
Forlan (Uruguay)
Messi (Argentina)
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: FF on January 30, 2008, 10:06:06 AM
Jai John go and answer the blasted question yuh post in "Quizz Time and Facts" going on two years now....

If we was holding we breath... we dead and bury. You and all like yuh forget and post de same question again de other day... all Tallman cyah answer.... steups

look the link.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=12393.0

Is the most viewed thread in dey and we still cyah get de damn answer.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: FF on January 30, 2008, 10:10:07 AM
Also is between Robinho and C Ronaldo for best player right now....

Both ah dem kinda unstoppable right now... and who say no to Robinho ent been following the spanish league at all..

Omardinho laugh at de Robinho choice and den list out the exact reasons why Robinho SHOULD be considered...

Omardinho ah coming and eat dat pelau in de Fantasy League watch out
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2008, 10:18:26 AM
Also is between Robinho and C Ronaldo for best player right now....

Both ah dem kinda unstoppable right now... and who say no to Robinho ent been following the spanish league at all..

Omardinho laugh at de Robinho choice and den list out the exact reasons why Robinho SHOULD be considered... [/b]


come nuh man..

robinho having his best season to date yes, but is a far, far, far, far, far stretch to put the "best player in the world" mantle on him at this moment... what is he doing that is any different to what CR7 has done for the past few seasons and what messi has been doing up until recently??

Lewwe see wha play off in de champs league this year and revisit this nuh..

Quote
Omardinho ah coming and eat dat pelau in de Fantasy League watch out

like yuh eh check de table today.. de pelau in 5th position now and i eh even add de special ingredient and secret sauce yet..

when yuh see ah get meh sket (freakazoid) to wine over de pot ah go be moving into pole position like Ayrton Senna..
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: kicker on January 30, 2008, 10:54:29 AM
Also is between Robinho and C Ronaldo for best player right now....

Both ah dem kinda unstoppable right now... and who say no to Robinho ent been following the spanish league at all..

Omardinho laugh at de Robinho choice and den list out the exact reasons why Robinho SHOULD be considered...

Omardinho ah coming and eat dat pelau in de Fantasy League watch out

FSC dread- EPL & Serie A is what gets the most/all of the exposure.....That's why the views are skewed.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Daft Trini on January 30, 2008, 11:00:52 AM
Robinho and dem madrid men have a real gay way of celebrating dey goals....

My vote is Riqueime... and all yuh watching de African Nations Cup...man is real skillzs in dat competition.

Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: kicker on January 30, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
Also is between Robinho and C Ronaldo for best player right now....

Both ah dem kinda unstoppable right now... and who say no to Robinho ent been following the spanish league at all..

Omardinho laugh at de Robinho choice and den list out the exact reasons why Robinho SHOULD be considered... [/b]


come nuh man..

robinho having his best season to date yes, but is a far, far, far, far, far stretch to put the "best player in the world" mantle on him at this moment... what is he doing that is any different to what CR7 has done for the past few seasons and what messi has been doing up until recently??

Lewwe see wha play off in de champs league this year and revisit this nuh..


How many games yuh watch Robinho play last season (and this season) ?

Robinho had a big season last year too...and he dominated the Copa America up until the final... I eh saying that he's the best in the world, but I'm pretty sure that if C. Ronaldo played in Spain, he wouldn't get half the attention on this forum that he gets now....

Best player in the world is Iker Casillas-  He won the Spanish primera for Madrid last season, and he's the reason Madrid is 9 points clear in the league.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: FF on January 30, 2008, 11:11:23 AM
Best player in the world is Iker Casillas-  He won the Spanish primera for Madrid last season, and he's the reason Madrid is 9 points clear in the league.


I could endorse this.. MOST SHOT AT GOALKEEPER so far in de league, imagine dat... WITH de least goals conceded after Barcelona...

Madrid conceded 16.. Barca 14

AS of 2 games ago

Amazingly, Real Madrid are the team most 'shot at' by other teams in the league, even more than lowly Levante. The statistic was made public last week, prompting Schuster to declare that it had to stop. But Casillas just saves everything that comes his way. The side has only conceded 14 goals, despite having their posts peppered 279 times, 82 of which ended with San Iker (Saint Iker) making a save. He has now gone 468 minutes without conceding, and played 58 consecutive games since being sent off in Santander in May 2006.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: SUPA on January 30, 2008, 11:15:03 AM
On Current Form...Cristiano is the best at the moment

Ah have tuh agree wid de yute wid his post. I must admit, in my opinion, SM made a fair and true comment. SM being a big Man U supporter, he cud have made his post differently. I'm not a Man U fan, Supa is die hard long time supporter fuh Barca. However, I do admire good ball and Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea (sometimes) dey all play good and entertaining ball. If meh boi (Dinho) was in form, dis wud ah be ah no brainier question tuh answer, or even if de next killer(Drogba) wasn't injured fuh ah while, he wud ah be meh choice in ah heart beat. HIGHLY BLESSED
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: jumbonut$ on January 30, 2008, 11:38:02 AM
All these players listed are class players but by all rights Christiano Ronaldo is a cut above the rest. I never really liked the youth eh but for the past 2 seasons he has been the man.... I mean he has 25 goals in all competitions already with 4 months of football still to play. Not to mention he is a wide midfielder... The man bad
Title: ah naming mi son critiano lionel .............................aka basket thread
Post by: freakazoid on January 30, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
c. ronaldo is hands down the best player in d world right now dread. talk about the midas touch. fab who?
Title: Re: ah naming mi son critiano lionel
Post by: boss on January 30, 2008, 02:28:57 PM
That plan sounds a bit messi... ;D
Title: Re: ah naming mi son critiano lionel
Post by: Bourbon on January 30, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
Dis looking like a 8 page thread in the making.  :-\
Title: Re: ah naming mi son critiano lionel aka basket thread
Post by: freakazoid on January 30, 2008, 02:33:30 PM
man u looking like 2005 barcelona
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Ponnoxx on January 30, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
...to say Robinho is the best player in the world, is shit talk,u obvioulsy dont know football.

I said in my opinion...prick!.....Anyhow Cristiano has never proved himself against top opposition..He cannot raise the level of his team on his own...Rooney does this for Manchester...It is true he is playing exceptionally well but against Wigan and Derby and bottom scrapers...what about Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal?...where was Cristiano against these teams...When they play AC Milan last year where was he?  I mean he playing at a great level but I can't say he is the best when Man U didn't face adversity and Cristiano step and say give me the ball let me decide this game as say Kaka does for Milan....I also said currently...Kaka still doing his thing but not like Robinho doing it also and keeping his team at the top level...Messi is also not a player in my opinion that could say let me decide this when Barcelona not doing well...This is why I cannot say those guys are the best...As for Zlatan...He is playing great and has been for a while....Cristiano is an excellent player but not a clutch individual like say Ronaldo 99 for Brazil, Inter, Barca and Real(against Turkey in the World Cup when Brazil couldn't find a goal), Zidane for Real and France(UEFA final volley), Ronaldinho(against Milan champions league) for Barca and Brazil, Kaka for Milan(against Boca ) and Brazil, Rivaldo, Figo for Real.......Players that will say give me the ball and I will decide this ...All these players have had there moments...Where was Cristiano's? where was Messi 's this season?....This is just my opinion and all I ask was men opinion this asshole have to come and say i doh know about football...steups....pornsite shut down o what? alllyuh little asshole find something to do nah boy and leave a big man...steups
Title: Re: ah naming mi son critiano lionel .............................aka basket thread
Post by: Filho on January 30, 2008, 03:21:13 PM
critiano is a horrible name...try cristiano instead :devil:
Title: Re: ah naming mi son cristiano lionel....................aka basket thread
Post by: WestCoast on January 30, 2008, 03:26:02 PM
critiano is a horrible name...try cristiano instead :devil:
;D
Title: Re: ah naming mi son cristiano lionel....................aka basket thread
Post by: Daft Trini on January 30, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
critiano is a horrible name...try cristiano instead :devil:
;D

No 1 instigator... ;D let de man name he chile what he want. I jess read ah report of some of my co workers who going France with me in April and ah man middle name is Benjamin "Ding Ling" Tsai....
Title: Re: ah naming mi son cristiano lionel....................aka basket thread
Post by: WestCoast on January 30, 2008, 04:02:14 PM
critiano is a horrible name...try cristiano instead :devil:
;D

No 1 instigator... ;D let de man name he chile what he want. I jess read ah report of some of my co workers who going France with me in April and ah man middle name is
Benjamin "Ding AH Ling" Tsai....
:D
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2008, 04:23:34 PM
my vote is for ashley cole as d best playa. who else can play on deh wife and then have her say she want to have his baby?

For best footballer this year not last year but this year I say CR7, because he has taken it up a notch and he been scoring in all competitions. But this question is better asked at the end of the season!
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: boss on January 30, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
27 goals? From midfield? In January?  :o

I HATE his greasy Portuguese face and that damn Cantona-esque face he pulls after a free kick, but I have to admit that he's the best in the world.

Question is if he can maintain it for seasons to come... :beermug:
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: SOBRIQUET on January 30, 2008, 04:58:10 PM
27 goals? From midfield? In January?  :o

I HATE his greasy Portuguese face and that damn Cantona-esque face he pulls after a free kick, but I have to admit that he's the best in the world.

Question is if he can maintain it for seasons to come... :beermug:

Exactly. 27 from MIDFIELD. i hate all that is Man U, but yuh hadda give Jack he fleckin' Jacket. THIS SEASON, he is undoubtedly the best in the world.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 30, 2008, 05:28:22 PM
He is hands down the greatest at the moment...  Hopefully he keeps it going...

Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2008, 05:34:01 PM
Also is between Robinho and C Ronaldo for best player right now....

Both ah dem kinda unstoppable right now... and who say no to Robinho ent been following the spanish league at all..

Omardinho laugh at de Robinho choice and den list out the exact reasons why Robinho SHOULD be considered... [/b]


come nuh man..

robinho having his best season to date yes, but is a far, far, far, far, far stretch to put the "best player in the world" mantle on him at this moment... what is he doing that is any different to what CR7 has done for the past few seasons and what messi has been doing up until recently??

Lewwe see wha play off in de champs league this year and revisit this nuh..


How many games yuh watch Robinho play last season (and this season) ?

Robinho had a big season last year too...and he dominated the Copa America up until the final... I eh saying that he's the best in the world, but I'm pretty sure that if C. Ronaldo played in Spain, he wouldn't get half the attention on this forum that he gets now....

Best player in the world is Iker Casillas-  He won the Spanish primera for Madrid last season, and he's the reason Madrid is 9 points clear in the league.

kicker, i've seen a few Real madrid games this season..

is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..

has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...

is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan??  NO, NO, NO!!

anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..

lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: kicker on January 30, 2008, 06:05:25 PM

kicker, i've seen a few Real madrid games this season..

is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..

has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...

is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan??  NO, NO, NO!!

Kenwyne Jones is arguably more indispensable for his team than Robinho- doesn't mean he's better.  

anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..

lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..

Like I said, I'm not necessarily a protagonist for Robinho as the world's best player... and based on what I've seen this season, Kaka hasn't really been memorable in BIG games as you put it either. C Ronaldo is red hot, no denying that- some would say he's virtually unstoppable in his league..... and opinions & arguments aside he's currently fully deserved of his rating....my point however was that those laughing at claims of Robinho being the world's best are most likely not juding him off the same level and depth of coverage & marketing hype that is showered on the EPL stars- which ultimately taints the quality of this discussion. If you re-read my post carefully, you'll realize that your rant in response to my post was unnecessary and barely responded to my point except by saying that you've seen a few Madrid games.
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2008, 06:25:37 PM

kicker, i've seen a few Real madrid games this season..

is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..

has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...

is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan??  NO, NO, NO!!

Kenwyne Jones is arguably more indispensable for his team than Robinho- doesn't mean he's better.  

anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..

lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..

Like I said, I'm not necessarily a protagonist for Robinho as the world's best player... and based on what I've seen this season, Kaka hasn't really been memorable in BIG games as you put it either. C Ronaldo is red hot, no denying that- some would say he's virtually unstoppable in his league..... and opinions & arguments aside he's currently fully deserved of his rating....my point however was that those laughing at claims of Robinho being the world's best are most likely not juding him off the same level and depth of coverage & marketing hype that is showered on the EPL stars- which ultimately taints the quality of this discussion. If you re-read my post carefully, you'll realize that your rant in response to my post was unnecessary and barely responded to my point except by saying that you've seen a few Madrid games.


and i'm hoping you ent fass enough to believe that my dismissal of Robinho was founded upon any hype surrounding the EPL stars??

don't you see me pouring cold water over the claims for C. Ronaldo?? Did i not just allude to him scoring ah setta goal on some shitty EPL teams? Did I not vouch for Kaka and give my reasonings above?

Look eh.. in the last three days, I have watched 3 EPL games, 3 Spanish games, 1 Argentinian, an extended german league highlights show and some south american game between Nacional v Penarol.. The EPL brand of football is at the very bottom of the rung.

I just finish watch Phil Neville voom kicking the ball and pelting he frame at every opportunity against Tottenham.. wing backs just hoof it up the line at the first opportunity.. I then switch the channel to see Kun Aguero taking it to the Valencia defence.. Defenders interested in playing football and creativity in abundance.. (Mind you Everton v Spurs in England = Atletico Mad v Valencia in Spain).  Not to mention the quality of football I witnessed from a mid table Argentinian side against Boca juniors.. Or the high quality of the german league.. endless touches..

So I assure you my judgements are never tainted by hype.

My opinion is that Robinho is not yet up there in discussion with respect to being the best player in the world.. You disagree well that is your position and you entitled just leave it as such..

this post is a rant.. not the last!
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2008, 06:29:34 PM

kicker, i've seen a few Real madrid games this season..

is robinho the best player on his team?? ummm... maybe, maybe not.. ruud, sneijder, guti are all having impressive seasons..

has robinho given me any memorable big game performances... ummm no, not really...

is robinho more indispensable than a Kaka, Messi, Cristiano, Drogba (why is his name not in this poll) or Zlatan??  NO, NO, NO!!

Kenwyne Jones is arguably more indispensable for his team than Robinho- doesn't mean he's better.  

anyway like i said.. the best time for this discussion is at the critical phase of the season.. not now when certain men hogging de glory by constantly boring dem shitty EPL sides..

lets wait for the latter stages of the champions league and see who steps up like Kaka did last year..

Like I said, I'm not necessarily a protagonist for Robinho as the world's best player... and based on what I've seen this season, Kaka hasn't really been memorable in BIG games as you put it either. C Ronaldo is red hot, no denying that- some would say he's virtually unstoppable in his league..... and opinions & arguments aside he's currently fully deserved of his rating....my point however was that those laughing at claims of Robinho being the world's best are most likely not juding him off the same level and depth of coverage & marketing hype that is showered on the EPL stars- which ultimately taints the quality of this discussion. If you re-read my post carefully, you'll realize that your rant in response to my post was unnecessary and barely responded to my point except by saying that you've seen a few Madrid games.


and i'm hoping you ent fass enough to believe that my dismissal of Robinho was founded upon any hype surrounding the EPL stars??

don't you see me pouring cold water over the claims for C. Ronaldo?? Did i not just allude to him scoring ah setta goal on some shitty EPL teams? Did I not vouch for Kaka and give my reasonings above?

Look eh.. in the last three days, I have watched 3 EPL games, 3 Spanish games, 1 Argentinian, an extended german league highlights show and some south american game between Nacional v Penarol.. The EPL brand of football is at the very bottom of the rung.

I just finish watch Phil Neville voom kicking the ball and pelting he frame at every opportunity against Tottenham.. wing backs just hoof it up the line at the first opportunity.. I then switch the channel to see Kun Aguero taking it to the Valencia defence.. Defenders interested in playing football and creativity in abundance.. (Mind you Everton v Spurs in England = Atletico Mad v Valencia in Spain).  Not to mention the quality of football I witnessed from a mid table Argentinian side against Boca juniors.. Or the high quality of the german league.. endless touches..

So I assure you my judgements are never tainted by hype.

My opinion is that Robinho is not yet up there in discussion with respect to being the best player in the world.. You disagree well that is your position and you entitled just leave it as such..

this post is a rant.. not the last!

which one of the sportscaster on fsc are you? watchin all dem matches. are carlos machado in disguise? yuh name is of porturgese origin is it not? lol!
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: dinho on January 30, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
ah really meant to say in de last six days..

but yeah this week, ah laziness taking place dat bordering on sloth..

wuk starting back just now so ah have to take it in while i can..
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: giggsy11 on January 30, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
ah really meant to say in de last six days..

but yeah this week, ah laziness taking place dat bordering on sloth..

wuk starting back just now so ah have to take it in while i can..

the worse is when champions league on and man/woman at work!
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: jai john on January 31, 2008, 08:00:12 AM
Jai John go and answer the blasted question yuh post in "Quizz Time and Facts" going on two years now....

If we was holding we breath... we dead and bury. You and all like yuh forget and post de same question again de other day... all Tallman cyah answer.... steups

look the link.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=12393.0

Is the most viewed thread in dey and we still cyah get de damn answer.

So you vex I take so long to answer  or that tallman eh get the answer yet ? How many questions you read that tallman could't answer ?
Well the answer is Ron la Forest. In fact when he scored the goal he put his finger in the air knowing that the record wouldl never be equalled or broken.
I am sure he has that photo in his scrapbook somewhere...
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: FF on January 31, 2008, 08:51:46 AM
Jai John go and answer the blasted question yuh post in "Quizz Time and Facts" going on two years now....

If we was holding we breath... we dead and bury. You and all like yuh forget and post de same question again de other day... all Tallman cyah answer.... steups

look the link.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=12393.0

Is the most viewed thread in dey and we still cyah get de damn answer.

So you vex I take so long to answer  or that tallman eh get the answer yet ? How many questions you read that tallman could't answer ?
Well the answer is Ron la Forest. In fact when he scored the goal he put his finger in the air knowing that the record wouldl never be equalled or broken.
I am sure he has that photo in his scrapbook somewhere...



Jai my statements were quite tongue in cheek... doh take it too personal...

but we swear like yuh forget we over dey.. especially as several answers were given, including the correct one without verification.. football fans wanted to know.... respect
Title: Re: Who's the best????
Post by: jai john on January 31, 2008, 09:02:39 AM
Jai John go and answer the blasted question yuh post in "Quizz Time and Facts" going on two years now....

If we was holding we breath... we dead and bury. You and all like yuh forget and post de same question again de other day... all Tallman cyah answer.... steups

look the link.

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=12393.0

Is the most viewed thread in dey and we still cyah get de damn answer.

So you vex I take so long to answer  or that tallman eh get the answer yet ? How many questions you read that tallman could't answer ?
Well the answer is Ron la Forest. In fact when he scored the goal he put his finger in the air knowing that the record wouldl never be equalled or broken.
I am sure he has that photo in his scrapbook somewhere...



Jai my statements were quite tongue in cheek... doh take it too personal...

but we swear like yuh forget we over dey.. especially as several answers were given, including the correct one without verification.. football fans wanted to know.... respect

ah really did forget ....  :beermug:
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