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Sports => Football => Topic started by: E-man on January 31, 2008, 02:02:24 PM
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Liverpool v SAFC: Preview Pack
By Martin Walker (SAFC.com)
Your complete guide to Sunderland's game against Liverpool.
General news:
Sunderland jumped out of the relegation zone with their 2-0 win over Birmingham on Tuesday. The Black Cats are currently 14th in the Barclays Premier League with six wins, five draws and 12 defeats, having scored 24 goals and conceded 42. They're two points behind 13th-placed Middlesbrough.
Sunderland are yet to win away from home. They've drawn two (Birmingham and Middlesbrough) and lost 10 on their travels, scoring nine goals and conceding 29.
League form guide: LWLWLW
Michael Chopra is available again after serving a one-match suspension on Tuesday night.
Four other Sunderland players are currently on four yellow cards - Phil Bardsley, Danny Collins, Grant Leadbitter and Ross Wallace.
Carlos Edwards (broken leg) is not expected to feature tomorrow.
Wallace is out for up to four months with knee ligament injury.
Sunderland will play Liverpool in the fifth round of the FA Youth Cup sponsored by E.ON. The Reds beat Arsenal 1-0 in round four of the competition on Tuesday night to set up the fifth round tie at the Stadium of Light on Wednesday February 13, 7pm kick-off.
International round-up:
Dickson Etuhu played his first game of the African Nations on Tuesday night as he helped Nigeria to qualify for the quarter-finals of the tournament. Berti Vogts' side face one of the competition favourites Ghana in the quarter-finals on Sunday.
Kenwyne Jones has been called up to the Trinidad and Tobago squad for a friendly against Guadeloupe in the Port of Spain next Wednesday - Jones hasn't played for the Soca Warriors since October 2006.
Paul McShane, Liam Miller and Daryl Murphy have all been called up to the Republic of Ireland squad to play Brazil in a friendly at Croke Park on Wednesday February 6.
Goalkeeper Marton Fulop has been called up to the Hungary squad for a friendly against Cyprus in Limasol on Wednesday February 6.
Anthony Stokes has been called up for the Republic of Ireland Under-21s for their European Championship qualifier against England, at Southampton's St Mary's Stadium, on Tuesday February 5.
Youngster Ryan Noble, who plays for Sunderland's Under-16s side, has been called up by England at Under-17s level. The striker will play in the Algarve Tournament, which begins this weekend (February 2). The other countries involved are Denmark, France and Portugal.
The opposition:
Liverpool crashed to their third league defeat of the season on Wednesday night when they were beaten 1-0 at West Ham.
Rafael Benitez's side are still looking for their first league win of 2008 after drawing three straight games (1-1 at home to Wigan, 1-1 at Middlesbrough and 2-2 at home to Aston Villa) followed by their defeat at Upton Park.
Their indifferent form has seen Liverpool slip to seventh in the Barclays Premier League on 40 points, although they have a game in hand. Their last win was at Derby (2-1) on Boxing Day and their last league win at home was a 4-1 victory against Portsmouth on December 22.
Argentinean midfielder Javier Mascherano is available again after he served a one-match suspension at West Ham.
Danish defender Daniel Agger is not available - he's been out since September with a broken metatarsal.
Moroccan striker Nabil El-Zhar could be back into contention for the weekend after Morocco failed to qualify to the knockout stage of the African Nations this week, although he is yet to make a league appearance this season.
Benitez has signed Slovakian defender Martin Skrtel from Zenit St Petersburg for £6m during the January transfer window (he's already played twice), while he has also sold Mohamed Sissoko to Juventus for £8.2m.
Liverpool have only lost once at home this season, a 1-0 defeat against Manchester United on December 16.
They have won four of their 11 games at Anfield, drawn six and lost one, scoring 23 goals and conceding nine. Birmingham (0-0 in September) and Wigan (1-1 on January 2) have both drawn there.
The Reds have already played 37 games in all competitions this season (compared to Sunderland's 26) - 23 league games, eight in the Champions League and three in both the FA Cup and Carling Cup.
League form guide: WDDDDL
Liverpool finished third in the Barclays Premier League last season, 15 points behind runners-up Chelsea having won 20 games, drawn eight and lost 10.
At home, they won 14 games, drew four and lost one (against Manchester United), scoring 39 goals and conceding just seven.
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bring ya A game LiverPUDDLE ;D
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if liverpool lose thats it 4 benitez
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As much as I don't want Benitez to lose his job, I need Jones to score on them, infact I would like Sunderland to win this one. This game is also live on FSC.
Liverpool v SUNDERLAND: Richardson ready to boost Black Cats
Last updated at 12:00pm on 1st February 2008
Sunderland midfielder Kieran Richardson could return to the squad for tomorrow's Barclays Premier League trip to Liverpool after shaking off a hamstring problem.
The 23-year-old has missed the last two games through injury after scoring both goals in the 2-0 victory over Portsmouth on January 13.
However, Dwight Yorke is out with the calf injury he picked up in Tuesday night's 2-0 win over Birmingham, while new £4million signing Andy Reid continues his recovery from a knee problem.
Michael Chopra returns from suspension, but Greg Halford and Graham Kavanagh have left the club on loan deals, Dickson Etuhu remains on African Nations Cup duty and Carlos Edwards (broken leg), Ross Wallace (knee ligaments) and Danny Higginbotham and Grant Leadbitter (both broken toe) are still out.
Provisional squad: Gordon, Ward, Fulop, Bardsley, McShane, Evans, Collins, Harte, Whitehead, Miller, O'Donovan, Richardson, Jones, Waghorn, Murphy, Stokes, Chopra, Prica
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=511719&in_page_id=1779#StartComments
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Allyuh feel Jones bussin d net today??
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SUNDERLAND..........we need one more goal dan LiverPuddle ;D
video showing real sweet here
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat2.2/Liverpool_Sunderland2.html
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what happen to richardson?
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Sunderland looking like they are in no man's land.......21 mins gone and they're being schooled in every part of the field- important stat though: score = 0-0....
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from the BBC website
"An early blow for Sunderland as the somewhat injury prone Kieran Richardson goes off with a hamstring injury and is replaced by the excellently named Rade Prica. "
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Look at Sunderland midfield injury list:
Edwards
Richardson
Wallace
Reid
Leadbitter
Plus Etuhu in Africa.
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Ah man jess stamp on Jones... take note Big Magician.... take not is Jamie C.... who do it...
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Look at Sunderland midfield injury list:
Edwards
Richardson
Wallace
Reid
Leadbitter
Plus Etuhu in Africa.
So how they expect Jones to get service muchless score???
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Liverpool having time to pick and choose wah to do in the midfield...but still 0-0 after 35 so hasnt proved fruitful for them
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ah really likin the 2 new defenders, make the team ah lil promisin....now for the middle
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from the BBC website
"An early blow for Sunderland as the somewhat injury prone Kieran Richardson goes off with a hamstring injury and is replaced by the excellently named Rade Prica. "
thanks
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ok this getting ridiculous, how many men from sunderland get hamstring injuries this season hmmmm
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dreadful game so far
a question for the Liverpool men, do honestly think Javier Mascherano is worth his transfer fee of £18.6 million or whatever it was? ???
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ah really likin the 2 new defenders, make the team ah lil promisin....now for the middle
The middle lying down on various treatment tables around Sunderland.
Ah forget to add Dwight to the injured midfielder list.
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This game is very English.
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sub d sub
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check de audio feed here
http://mfile.akamai.com/6095/live/reflector:35549.asx?bkup=35550
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liverpool 1-0 up...crouch scores a header
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ok this getting ridiculous, how many men from sunderland get hamstring injuries this season hmmmm
The Yankees in baseball went thru a similar rash of hamstring pulls last summer, and I read somewhere that there really isn't any excuse for that, that the training staff should be able to prevent such injuries. Suffice to say the Yankees fired their trainer mid-season adn coincidence or not, the issue was addressed.
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2:0 now
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ah really likin the 2 new defenders, make the team ah lil promisin....now for the middle
The middle lying down on various treatment tables around Sunderland.
Ah forget to add Dwight to the injured midfielder list.
except when ah team end up in the bottom 3, the league doh say, "If only they didn't have them injuries" "give dem ah chance this year"...Nope is down yuh going....buy 2 mids, if yuh cyah get quality from yuh reserves, and loan down the reserves, let somebody else pay them....
ah still feel Jones athleticism, and half decent skill being wasted while waiting and hoping for 1-2 half decent pass, while the opposing team gettin 9-10 shots....that won't help us either...we cyah play 2 Sterns...as ah think as Berris says "It only have 1 SJ", we need a SJ & a KJ...
Damn...Torres
add: anybody see Torres on anybody on Liverpool walkin when the ball within 10 yds of them yet ?
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liverpool 1-0 up...crouch scores a header
crouch......sorry to say but
(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0084.gif)
shitin backsides....anudda goal in we wire :( :(
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Goal by Fernando Torres (Liverpool) right-footed (low centre of goal) from centre of penalty area (12 yards).Liverpool 2-0 Sunderland. Assist (header) by Peter Crouch (Liverpool) from left channel.
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Too many players in the EPL can't trap and pass. Best league in the world, steups.
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Rob Stiles strikes again.... ;)
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someone please send Kenwyne the ball
nah...
someone please get Kenwyne A ball
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strange, given the fact that jones is sunderlands star boy why do they tend not 2 involve him in alot of plays
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dais a shit penalty and a shit goal right dey...especially with d 2 d refs did not give Sunlun
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ok, good game liverpuddle :(
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someone please send Kenwyne the ball
nah...
someone please get Kenwyne A ball
the problem is even if he get it , it's in the air and he vastly outnumbered...Sunderland has to play as a team...i.e defend as a team, attack as a team...not, when the ball IS NOT in the defense, then it's Jones an Chop, and when it's not up, then it's the defense must work....the whole team have to help each other....basic football
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Sunderland play alot of sh*t...Jones will not be able to show his full potential playing with so many bullshitters!!(just being honest)..Throughout this entire game Sunderland kept giving the ball away to Liverpuddle, therefore constantly losing posession. Also the midfied failed to provide KJ with any type of support. (Yorke was really missed in this game) Dont think sunderland had more than two shots on goal for the entire first half
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Sunderland has a truly horrific midfield if Yorke isn't there or Carlos or Richardson the potential of this team retaining any kind of possession or creating anything whatsoever is a foreign element to them ...... is it really asking so much to pick up a ball turn and play a ball into your strikers' feet or am I simply being too demanding? my goodness the level of ball has really gone down when this is what I have to look at on Tv ....Trintoc vs Police used to be a much bigger game than this.
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Sunderland has a truly horrific midfield if Yorke isn't there or Carlos or Richardson the potential of this team retaining any kind of possession or creating anything whatsoever is a foreign element to them ...... is it really asking so much to pick up a ball turn and play a ball into your strikers' feet or am I simply being too demanding? my goodness the level of ball has really gone down when this is what I have to look at on Tv ....Trintoc vs Police used to be a much bigger game than this.
If you look at the midfield that play, though. That's not even the second choice midfield. Two strikers on the wings. Shithound Whitehead in the middle. Some might say is poor excuses, but they truly suffering through injuries to their top midfielders. And they have no depth at the moment to compensate.
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Is either that referee grew up in liverpool and promise never to let them down or I was 11 against 12 men on the field..............
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Is either that referee grew up in liverpool and promise never to let them down or I was 11 against 15 men on the field..............
ya furgeh de tree linesmen ;D
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I really couldn't watch that whole game....Jesus Christ ...Sunderland nah....Kenwyne Jones have better control but after he run up and down like a donkey without getting the ball ...I think he control does deplete....the man only gettin air ball...They needed a good midfielder....They shoulda buy Diarra ;D
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How about drop back the best Striker in the EPL an make him the best midfielder in the world....doh fraid
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sunderland conceded 3 goals but the defence looking much better than earlier in the season, they need to investgate the state of they training ground or training routines so that the injured guys can come off d treatment table and stay off it
but all in all i must admit there was a small improvement in the team play . supply to the strikers was still way below par though
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sunderland conceded 3 goals but the defence looking much better than earlier in the season, they need to investgate the state of they training ground or training routines so that the injured guys can come off d treatment table and stay off it
but all in all i must admit there was a small improvement in the team play . supply to the strikers was still way below par though
I have been to the Toon and Sunlun @ Sunderland University and Freakazoid, I think you are supporting a suspicion that I have....
The grounds are pretty heavy there in the Tyne... and always damp to me... even in their summer it was cloudy for about 30 days while I was there...
Maybe they need to hit the gym more because they need foot strong as water bison to run on dem fields...
Plus Sancho and Avery in de back...
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Kenwayne barely touch the ball all game, just chasing shadows all game. Sunders really need some help yes
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Kenwayne barely touch the ball all game, just chasing shadows all game. Sunders really need some help yes
They concede BC the defence had no time to rest , they were allways on the defensive since the mids don't know how to hold on to the ball. sunlun lost most their games in the midfield, yorke is meh boy , but he's getting really slow, etuhu has no offensive skills whatsoever, he defends better than going forward, miller definatly too slow for a midfielder, whitehead is at best is a league one player, the man can't handle the speed of the prem, he needs too much time on the ball to be effective , and the prem does not allow that.
bardsley , evans , noggsy and collins , where as a solid wall, that's a real defencive four, they had ah solid game , but how much could four men defend a goal when the other four are a liability, especially against a team like liverpool. in order for sulun to win , they must envolve their strikers since goals win matches, and it seems that murphy and miller don't know how to penetrate a defence. i allways wonder why keane plays yorke in the middle , maybe he should play him where he's most confortable, up front with KJ. let's hope richardson , reid and edwards recover in time to save the season. positive.
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Sunderland has been playing like this the entire season. 80% of the balls Jones get is up in the air. When they played United the first time, KJ had 2 men on him and they still playing the air ball for most of the game. They have to put more balls on the ground. All this air ball will not work against the top 6 or 7 teams in the EPL
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Sunderland has been playing like this the entire season. 80% of the balls Jones get is up in the air. When they played United the first time, KJ had 2 men on him and they still playing the air ball for most of the game. They have to put more balls on the ground. All this air ball will not work against the top 6 or 7 teams in the EPL
top 6 man any team in the Prem will close him down if all he getting is air ball. Sunders better players are out, CHOPRA have some skills and on a good day he is a handful, but he needs to start consistently with KJ, CARLOS, RICHARDSON and Yorke are the real quality players, but injuries have messed up Sunderland's momentum. The last Sunderland sub who came on against Liverpool look like he just out of high school, so I ain't know where he was going!
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Sunderland has been playing like this the entire season. 80% of the balls Jones get is up in the air. When they played United the first time, KJ had 2 men on him and they still playing the air ball for most of the game. They have to put more balls on the ground. All this air ball will not work against the top 6 or 7 teams in the EPL
The last Sunderland sub who came on against Liverpool look like he just out of high school, so I ain't know where he was going!
He eh even out yet. He's just 17. Keane have almost no midfielders to choose from anymore.