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Title: Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 04, 2008, 04:38:25 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7225784.stm
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: Daft Trini on February 04, 2008, 05:13:19 PM
Deeks ah respect yuh.... change something (hint)  ;D
Title: Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on March 28, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.

Coach

Name - Angus Eve.
Position - Head Coach.
Past Experince: - San Juan Jabloteh (Assistant Coach), Ma Pau SC (Assistant Coach).
Rating - 4 (10).
Strength - Seems to have his heart in the right place.
Weakness - Poor tactical ability, failure to better prepare his players and his team. As a team T&T lacked organisation and looked lost for ideas on the field, not to mention there were gaps to be filled and only deteriorated as the game progressed. Team selection, formation and substitution was also questionable. Could it be players not responding well to Eve's command?

Further Notes: -While the players are decent as individuals, T&T as a team is relatively a poorly structured one. For example, find a suitable formation to compliment the team strength and weakness.

There are gaps between defence to midfield and, especially midfield to forward as there is no one used to bridge them. The long high balls are also affecting the team's chemistry to string a few passes together.

Another problem was quite obvious, there were no other left-sided players to replace a suspended Joevin Jones. Furthermore, the midfield is the engine of any team yet T&T continued playing senseless long balls to the strikers which were lost and put them under immediate pressure.

Finally, the team looked totally different against Honduras and could have gotten a favorable result but failed to convert, the lone striker wasn't working to effectively.

But to blame Angus Eve alone would not be right. Poor technical ability in some of the basic criteria is the responsibility of the clubs etc etc. National coaches alone cannot take all abuse. Now the Federation did not allow for proper preparation of this squad, that being said, they did enter the Pan Am Games, but what did they really do since then?

Six (6) players from El Salvador played at the 2011 Gold Cup, six (6) from Honduras did the same. Mexico entered this team into the Copa America and then Pan Am Games which they won defeating Argentina.

Goalkeeper

Name - Andre Marchan.
Date of birth - 11 August 1990.
Club: - W Connection (TRI) - On loan to North East Stars.
School: - Carapichaima Secondary.
Number - 1.
Position - Goalkeeper.
Rating - 4 (10).
Strength - A decent shot stopper.
Weakness - Poor on high balls, crosses and does not comand his area with confidence. Had a relatively poor 2012 Olympic qualifying series. Also, Andre needs to know how to punch the ball when trying to clear it.

Defenders

Name - Daneil Cyrus.
Date of birth - 15 December 1990
Club: - FC 1st Santa Rosa (TRI).
School: - Mason Hall & El Dorado.
Number - 19.
Position - Center Back.
Rating - 8.5 (10).
Strength - Solid at the back, commands his area well, good aerial and good passing ability, can play various positions and has the pace to recover when playing wing back. Clearly one of T&T's best and most consistent performer at the 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Weakness - Experience.

Name - Joevin Jones.
Date of birth - 8 March 1991.
Club: - W Connection (TRI).
School: - Mucurapo Senior.
Number - 3.
Position - Left Back.
Rating - 6 (10).
Strength - A decent left footed defender who loves to make overlapping runs down the wing, great going forward and isn't afraid to shoot at goal. Jones also has a decent recovery time.
Weakness - Needs to work on his passing from defence to midfield and eliminate the long balls.

Name - Sheldon Bateau.
Date of birth - 29 January 1991.
Club: - San Juan Jabloteh (TRI).
School: - Fatima College.
Number - 4.
Position - Defensive.
Rating - 4 (10).
Strength - One of T&T's hardest workers on the field. Broke up many plays from opposing attackers. Good in the air and can play many defensive roles.
Weakness - Gives away 90% of balls won. Needs to work on his passing and shooting. As a captain, Bateau must lead by example and must be vocal enough to lift his teammates.

Name - Kareem Moses.
Date of birth - 11 February 1990.
Club: - St Ann's Rangers (TRI).
School: - ?.
Number - 2.
Position - Center Back.
Rating - 5 (10).
Strength - Does the simple things, holds his ground and covers his partner well. Hard worker and capable of playing the sweeper role well.
Weakness - Needs to work on his man marking and aerial strength.

Name - Leslie Russell.
Date of birth - 21 August 1989
Club: - W Connection (TRI).
School: - ?.
Number - ?.
Position - Right Back.
Rating - 4.5 (10).
Strength - A simple defensive player. Does the simple things that is instructed.
Weakness - Does not get forward enough, needs to position himself better and needs to make better decisions with the ball.

Name - Mekeil Williams.
Date of birth - 24 July 1990.
Club: - Pogon Szczecin (POL).
School: - St Anthony's College.
Number - 17.
Position - Defensive.
Rating - 7 (10).
Strength - Another tiredless worker, has a high work rate and fights to the end. I enjoyed the energy he brought to the game.
Weakness - Makes to many wild tackles. Needs to be more composed on the ball when won.

Midfielders

Name - Micah Lewis.
Date of birth - 20 March 1990.
Club: - Caledonia AIA (TRI).
School: - St Anthony's College.
Number - 18.
Position - Right Wing.
Rating - 5 (10).
Strength - Good on the wing, can be creative, have pace and cannot be kicked off the ball easily.
Weakness - Needs to work on his crossing and consistency. Also needs to learn how to use his ability more effectively.

Name - Curtis Gonzales.
Date of birth - 26 January 1989
Club: - Defence Force (TRI).
School: - San Juan Senior.
Number - 15.
Position - Right Wing.
Rating - 5 (10).
Strength - Does the simple things, shows good potential in both attacking and defending.
Weakness - Needs to work on his crossing and a little to one dimention.

Name - Jomal Williams.
Date of birth - 28 April 1994
Club: - W Connection (TRI).
School: - East Mucurapo Secondary.
Number - 13.
Position - Left Wing.
Rating - 6 (10).
Strength - T&T's youngest member of the 2012 Olympic team and despite only making one appearance at the tournament Williams looked impressive. Had an immediate impact on the game and seems to have the potential to be a high scoring midfielder?
Weakness - Not enough time to comment.

Name - Jeromie Williams.
Date of birth - 17 May 1989.
Club: - North East Stars (TRI).
School: - Scarborough Secondary.
Number - 8.
Position - Midfielder.
Rating - 5.5 (10).
Strength - Does the simple things, broke up many plays from midfield. A tidy midfielder.
Weakness - Needs to work on his pace and make better decisions with the ball especially going forward.

Name - Jayson Joseph.
Date of birth - 7 January 1989.
Club: - T&TEC (TRI).
School: - Naparima College.
Number - 12.
Position - Midfielder.
Rating - 6.5 (10).
Strength - A tiny midfielder with a punch to his game. Can really turn it up both defensive and offensive. Very combative.
Weakness - Needs to work on his final play and attacking options.

Name - Kevan George.
Date of birth - 30 January 1990
Club: - Columbus Crew (USA).
School: - Bishop High.
Number - 5.
Position - Defensive Midfielder.
Rating - 5.5 (10).
Strength - Came into the tournament basically unknown. Did not have a good first game but grew as the tournament progressed. Another combative midfielder who can do attackers a lot of damage. Has a good workrate and covers a lot of ground at a good pace. Has good height and can score off headers.
Weakness - Needs work on his discipline, his passing and attacking options.

Name - Kevin Molino.
Date of birth - 17 June 1990.
Club: - Orlando City (USA).
School: - Mucarapo Senior Secondary.
Number - 10.
Position - Midfielder.
Rating - 6.5 (10).
Strength - Good vision, good ability to turn and escape defenders, very nippy, does everything a true midfielder is supposed to do. Does have a decent shot on goal, very determined and is capable of taking corner and set-plays. I believe Molino can be a turned into a future number 10, controlling the central midfield and spraying passes? Unfortunately, his talent was not properly utilized.
Weakness - Needs to be more composed on the ball, can get kicked off the ball easily at times.

Name - Sean De Silva.
Date of birth - 17 January 1990
Club/School: - College of Charleston (USA).
School: - St Mary's College.
Number - 7.
Position - Midfielder.
Rating - 5.5 (10).
Strength - Has good technical ability and a good eye for passing the ball accurately, can be very creative and capable of scoring from set plays. Could be a true #10 as well, but that's entirely up to him?
Weakness - Takes too many touches to get into the game and gets overwhelmed by defenders in the process. Needs to work on his first touch and transition play. Appears to be distracted by so call "big games".

Forwards

Name - Shahdon Winchester.
Date of birth - 8 January 1992.
Club: - W Connection (TRI).
School: - Naparima College.
Number - 11.
Position - Center Forward.
Rating - 7 (10).
Strength - Very nippy forward who can beat his marker, showed fight and composure on the ball. A hard working forward that gets back to defend. The mobility of Winchester can surely be a compliment to strikers that are less mobile.
Weakness - Needs to take more shots on goal at every opportunity. Can also work on his shooting power.

Name - Jamal Gay.
Date of birth - 9 February 1989.
Club: - Caledonia AIA (TRI).
School: - El Dorado Senior.
Number - 9.
Position - Center Forward.
Rating - 5.5 (10).
Strength - Holds up the ball well and makes decent passes, great aerial strength.
Weakness - Unfortunately, the system T&T uses does not compliment Gay too much. As a lone striker he does not get the serves needed and does not create chances. He also needs to learn how to play 1 on 1 and take his chances on goals more often.

Name - Trevin Caesar.
Date of birth - 26 April 1989.
Club: - Caledonia AIA (TRI).
School: - Scarborough Secondary.
Number - 14.
Position - Right Forward.
Rating - 4 (10).
Strength - Hard worker, decent composure on the ball.
Weakness - Failed to convert about 3 good opportunities. Needs to take more shots on goal and needs to work on his aerial strength and positioning.

Note: - Cordell Cato (Seattle Sounders/Injured out) and Sheldon Clarke (Defence Force/Uncapped) - No Rating.

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: FireBrand on March 28, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
Good analysis of the U-23s Flex.  :thumbsup:

I would not give Molino such a high rating ( 8 ) in this tournament though. I was left a bit underwhelmed by his performance and expected a lot more from him. He'll get a 6 from me.  He is still class though and will improve with experience.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on March 28, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
Good analysis of the U-23s Flex.  :thumbsup:

I would not give Molino such a high rating in this tournament though. I was left a bit underwhelmed by his performance and expected a lot more from him. He'll get a 6 from me.  He is still class though and will improve with experience.

Agree 100% Molino was at best a 6.5. I thought his decision making in the final third wasnt so great and his passing was just ok. Unfortunately i dont see him as a future 10 he looks like a #7 to me. I also thought Mekeil Williams was our best player I'd give him a 7.5, a 6.5 seems harsh for a CB who played CM and even took corner kicks.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Trinitozbone on March 28, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
Good review Flex! I would give Jamal Gay a higher rating though!
I am not surprised at the outcome though! I have been observing and found Eve not up to the task! The problem in Trinidad is we have too many hurrycomeuppers without having the experience and exposure for the top jobs! Men have to earn stripes !
Same goes for the Technical Director! Another person wet behind the ears and not up to that job! What  was he doing in Carson? Was there to observe just pose! Did he have any input, gave any guidance , was a motivating factor?  He got about the same number of goals from Mexico as well! He has nothing to offer! They all need to send in their resignation letters ! We need a fresh start with more competent people if our football is to go anywhere!
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: KND2 on March 28, 2012, 12:55:31 PM
Our players are not to the level.

U23 is full professional in peak of development getting ready for the best year of careers.

None of these men has been able to call down a contract on a decent professional team.

All the Mexican players play for the top teams in mexico

All the Honduras players play for the top team in Honduras

Panama we are a little close too

All the US players play on the top teams in USA and foreign


Our players play in the top teams in TnT

But the TnT level is not on par with that in Mexico and USA and even Honduras.

You cannot take men with limited experience and average natural ability and expect them to compete with men who playing at a high level day in and out. 

They are not prepared.

That is refected in the results

speed of the game
speed of decisions
ability to withstand pressure


all very evident to be lacking.



10 years ago we were working with a much better base of talent and a much weaker opposition

The gap in concacaf has widen considerably and we are falling into the wrong bucket.

Without a revamp of the pro league we will continue to fall behind.


sad but true.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: MEP on March 28, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
Flex this team conceded 10 goals and scored 2 but yet you have the lowest rating as a 5. Are you basing your assessment on what you know of them and have seen in the past?  Cause it certainly can't be based on this tournament's performance as it exposed a lot of these players especially their technical inefficiencies. It was quite evident in the Mexico game as we couldn't bring that ball forward far less possess it in the attacking third. 
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Deeks on March 28, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
Flex, I agree with MEP, you pretty generous with your ratings.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Hebaldo on March 28, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
The truth is that we should be as critical of these players performance in this competition as possible and these ratings don't seem harsh enough
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: saint27 on March 28, 2012, 06:33:06 PM
my ratings
Marchan 3 ...cant hold d ball cant save
Curtis Gonzales.....5 worked well lacking passing ability
Cyrus ......7 best player we had for the tournament...still made mistakes but expected due to the amt of defending done
Kareem Moses .... 4 worked well, has work to do with his defensive positioning
Joevin Jones ......5.5 looked very lively and attacked well, made some good runs but sadly was not played in behind often enough
Mikel Williams....4.5 worked very hard lacked the composure in the middle of the park to play a CM position, tackles carelessly
Sheldon Bateau...3.5 good tackling but that comes to nothing if the ball is given away as you win it...because you cud kick hard doesnt mean you could take free kicks
Kevan George...3.5... i think picked only because he had a mls contract.... looked better against panama and honduras still should not be in the pool until he proves himself
Kevin Molino.....5.5  looked comfortable on the ball at times, alot more expected for someone with the amount of senior caps he has... could not start on any of the teams we played
Jayson joseph....5 not bad needs more composure on the ball  and better decision making...could be a real asset with his speed and dribbling ability
Sean De Silva....5 has all the confidence in the world and can pick out a pass... needs to simplify his game at times, lacks some of the physical attributes other players have, not good defensively
Jamal Gay....5 Tried hard but was isolated, when he got his chances never looked to take on a player....always has to take at least 3 touches because of his poor control
Shandon Winchester...6 always looked a threat, if a goal was going to come it was going to be through him...needs more experience

 
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: saint27 on March 28, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
Micah Lewis ....4 didnt show up has a lot of skill and pace and needs to utilize that
Cesar .....4.5 worked extremely hard but did not get anything to show for it...wasted on good chance
jomal williams 5.....would like to see more of him...he looked comfortable when he came on and played well
Jeromie williams ...4 gives away to many fouls and not that comfortable on the ball
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: injunchile on March 28, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
Which of these player can transition to the Senior Team?. It would be interesting to hear the views of The Concacaf Technical Team as well as the other coaches involved in this Tournament about the T&T team
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on March 28, 2012, 07:51:40 PM
my ratings
Marchan 3 ...cant hold d ball cant save
Curtis Gonzales.....5 worked well lacking passing ability
Cyrus ......7 best player we had for the tournament...still made mistakes but expected due to the amt of defending done
Kareem Moses .... 4 worked well, has work to do with his defensive positioning
Joevin Jones ......5.5 looked very lively and attacked well, made some good runs but sadly was not played in behind often enough
Mikel Williams....4.5 worked very hard lacked the composure in the middle of the park to play a CM position, tackles carelessly
Sheldon Bateau...3.5 good tackling but that comes to nothing if the ball is given away as you win it...because you cud kick hard doesnt mean you could take free kicks
Kevan George...3.5... i think picked only because he had a mls contract.... looked better against panama and honduras still should not be in the pool until he proves himself
Kevin Molino.....5.5  looked comfortable on the ball at times, alot more expected for someone with the amount of senior caps he has... could not start on any of the teams we played
Jayson joseph....5 not bad needs more composure on the ball  and better decision making...could be a real asset with his speed and dribbling ability
Sean De Silva....5 has all the confidence in the world and can pick out a pass... needs to simplify his game at times, lacks some of the physical attributes other players have, not good defensively
Jamal Gay....5 Tried hard but was isolated, when he got his chances never looked to take on a player....always has to take at least 3 touches because of his poor control
Shandon Winchester...6 always looked a threat, if a goal was going to come it was going to be through him...needs more experience

 

I forgot about Cyrus he truly was our best player. He single-handedly saved us time after time. If it wasnt for him, and his last ditch defending our GD might have been -13 instead of -8.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: elan on March 28, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
That #19, I am sorry, can't agree about him being our best player (Only saw the Mexico Game). I felt after a couple goals in the Mexico game he gave up. He showed no leadership and purposefully did not take instructions from the keeper. He is not quick and a bit uncordinated. His awareness in tracking players is also poor for a player of his supposedly stature.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sando on March 29, 2012, 03:34:11 AM
Intelligent and informative break down Flex.....

Hopefully, the heads take this in a positive and do some changes.




Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sam on March 29, 2012, 05:56:02 AM
Excellent work Flex.....

De question is, what will the TTFF do now with these crop of players ?

Angus need to go back to school, all of a sudden he talking about de foreign players now.... all de time is locals he believing in.....

Good wake up call for him !!!!!!!

Now pay de price, a month ago he was in de press opening he big mouth, now he backpedalling....

De locals need education, they trap in they own little world !!!!!

Ah want to hear Anton Corneal now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Trini on March 29, 2012, 08:36:38 AM
yea Flexos, good piece.
I didnt see any of the games apart from highlights, so I wont comment on who play how, or Eve.

All I can think about is a poast I made when we were in the camp in Florida 2 weeks ago.
there is no way in hell you should be on the verge of a big tournament like this, with such a pedigree team, so much experience, preperation, etc etc and be losing to some no-name local community team from orlando.not from a national team. You could make all the excuse you want about trying different things, experimenting etc, fact is if u are to be taken seriously, you cant be losing games like that....
That should have been a red flag then.
Apart from the loss to Mexico, there is no big embarrassment in losing to Honduras and drawing Panama, these are 2 very excellent youth teams, always have been, much more pedigree than us....
But the Mexico game was the killer, how in God's name you concede 7 goals is beyond me.
And I remember when parents come out and launch this big thing against Anton about how he ruff up and abuse the last team when they get embarass by Mexico, well I hope Angus went easy on them now....  SMH. lets continue to pamper our players and settle for mediocrity...

Its pretty clear that we are a Caribbean top team (forget about the dismal last WC campaign), if we are to really become a top CONCACAF team, fundamental changes have to occur.
We cld blame Angus and the players to an extent, but they are just an extension of all of us. We expect them to do well everytime and win games, yet we struggle to get supporters in the stadium to give them a boost. THey are just supporters playing for our team, and theiir attitude and intensity is the same as us. Plus the other teams were simply better than us.

This team should form the core for the digicel cup.

We need some foreigners to help with team prep. At the end of the day, our biggest success in football came under the guidance of a pedigree, internationally experienced coach who also got the respect of the players. You get what you pay for.

I would love to see the TTFF go after some past US coaches (Sampson/Bradley/Arena). We desperately need some structure and discipline.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 29, 2012, 08:59:11 AM
Whaiz de prize fuh being a "top Caribbean team"? 
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: de_redman on March 29, 2012, 09:14:21 AM
All I can think about is a poast I made when we were in the camp in Florida 2 weeks ago.
there is no way in hell you should be on the verge of a big tournament like this, with such a pedigree team, so much experience, preperation, etc etc and be losing to some no-name local community team from orlando.not from a national team.
Canada lost to that same team and are in the semi-finals. What's your point?  :yapping:
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: warmonga on March 29, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
thanks for allyuh view but alyuh ready for mine.. If a ever see dat maco goalkeeper wearing a TNT shirt again I guh buss facking head .. simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

war
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: socalion on March 29, 2012, 09:37:19 AM
  questions ?? why are we faulting our players entirely?? why is it that these young men and women are continually being set up to fail?? no one can honestly deny that, as  its clearly obvious that  the real issues should  wrest squarely  on the shoulders on the present administration plain and f....king simple only when that takes place and the proper structures are set in place i mean seriously set in place then and only then we may see the necessary progress we all yearn for from our men and women when  they are sent represent the red , white and black... !! who are we fooling ??? some other questions too many to ask but here are a few more questions where is minister of sport and his ministry in all of this . i truly question this man and his intent quite frankly ( Anil Roberts ) where is he???? it appears he loves photo ops when against the odds our young men and women gain any measure of success keep in mind  not long ago  njsane phillips  the young  cyclist who been pleading  literally pleading for sponsoreship  and financing in order to effectively prepare to meet the standard qualifying amount of points  system to get to london ....hardly anyone came forward to support this talented cyclist .....so who the heck are we fooling ???? where are the structures  ?? the academies?? where is our freaking government , the business co -op community in all of this . ???? are there any insurance for these players???  god forbid anyone of these people sustain any serious injuries there are an abundance of things that seriously must be done and set in place to ensure  these young people who are sent wearing  the red white and black  is worn .. are well prepared and  ready to compete internationally lets get serious  all of TnT that includes me as well i refuse to be  critical at this juncture of the players as there is no doubt in my mind these are being set up to fail i know am gonna get alot of stick for saying so  but one only take an objective view therein lies the answer... again am saying i refuse to place blame at the doorsteps of the players they were not well prepared we can either continue to be  wishful of success as it will not happen until the entire administration @TTFF along the sports ministries get their bloody act together and proactive  rather being reactive this short term quick fix mentality has got to go its time some radical changes take place its time  its time its time oh gosh  man 
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Errol on March 29, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
I had so much hopes for this team.

They really fail me the way they played and lost.

Angus Eve got fooled by the Pan American results.

Aquil Selby, Akeem Adams, Marcus Joseph and Jean-Luc Rochford was missed.

I think that - - Andre Marchan, Micah Lewis, Sean DeSilva (maybe), Jamal Gay (maybe), Trevin Caesar, Jeromie Williams and Leslie Russell was mistakes taking to LA.

Why didn't Eve call in Glenroy Samuel ?

Andre Marchan sucks !!!!!



Title: Alvin: Eve’s men leaves the best for last Thursday.
Post by: Flex on March 30, 2012, 04:09:17 AM
Eve’s men leaves the best for last Thursday.
By Alvin Corneal (Guardian).


With the Angus Eve’s Red Force holding an outside chance of qualifying for the semifinals leading to a place in the London Olympics, their final opponents in the group, Honduras, also had similar thoughts. T&T had to win to advance; Honduras needed only a draw.

In the end, it was Honduras 2 vs T&T 0. A plucky draw against Panama, suggested that T&T could win against Honduras whose performances fluctuated during the tournament. For T&T, the absence of Jamaal Gay was surprising. He was the most experienced striker and has a knack for scoring and one must consider that only two goals were scored in three hours of football.

That suggested the other strikers were not prolific scorers. Nevertheless, the coach would have had a reason for making such a move and probably felt that the unusual speed of Cesar may well have surprised the Central Americans.
 
Packing a midfield with three defenders also appeared strange, but the failure of the midfielders to produce any organised form of ball winning procedure against Mexico, certainly led the technical staff to correct that problem. It worked well against Panama and Honduras with skipper Bateau, Kevan George, and Mekeil Williams closing down the opposing midfield trio and dispossessing them with a certain degree of success.

But as one problem was solved, another cropped up, as the ball distribution by the same ball winners was at best faulty, at worst, horrible. Honduras regained the ball, not through tactical formula, but by some inaccurate passing and wasted long balls towards the lone striker Shadhon Winchester, who was always surrounded by three defenders.

This strategy reflected the absence of good support and this encouraged the individual approach of some who felt inclined to win the match through their own skill. Knowing that one goal could put T&T in an awkward position, Honduras, through the artistry of their playmakers, Martinez, Mejia, and Crisanto, a classy right wing back, took the fight to the seven-man T&T defence, especially as they realized that counter attacks were not even on the cards.
 
Even after one goal down, T&T should have brought the game back level early in the second half. Chances for Winchester, Molino, Cesar, and even skipper Bateau, failed to capitalise. Young Winchester, who had quite a good game, created a wonderful chance for himself in the opponent’s penalty area and failed to complete what would have been a fine goal.

Bateau’s cross was even more exciting when it found Winchester’s head on the six-yard line and the goalkeeper on the goalline. A directed header on either side of the keeper would have entered the net. For the last 20 minutes, the team sprung to life as Molino and Jovin Jones started some combination moves which caused serious concerns for Honduras.

They used an injured player’s delay to get together during the match to deal with what was appearing to be a positive challenge by T&T. Goals showed up, shots were taken with constant regularity, but none finding their mark and time eventually ran out for the twin island state.

Admittedly, their final match was their best effort and may well have left them with the belief that our country’s national programme can take these lessons and move ahead to the upcoming Gold Cup preliminaries and a team building programme for the next few years.

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Socapro on March 30, 2012, 06:39:44 AM
Good work Flex!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sando on March 30, 2012, 08:15:52 AM
If Anton wasn't technical director, you would have seen how Alvin would have bash the team.

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Trini on March 30, 2012, 08:48:58 AM
All I can think about is a poast I made when we were in the camp in Florida 2 weeks ago.
there is no way in hell you should be on the verge of a big tournament like this, with such a pedigree team, so much experience, preperation, etc etc and be losing to some no-name local community team from orlando.not from a national team.
Canada lost to that same team and are in the semi-finals. What's your point?  :yapping:

My point was that this close to the finals tournament, we should be getting better results if we are a truly quality team.
So whats your argument? Because Canada also lose to Ft Lauderdale, that mean we equal to Canada?
Let me tell you in case you didnt know, football is not 1+1 = 2, as beenhakker always said. If we use your logic, how in God's name we draw with Panama yet Mexico needed a very late goal to beat them 1-0, while we collect 7??
Football is played on the field, not based on mutal results. Football is goverened by the context in which it is played.. For all we know, Fort Lauderdale played a full strength team vs Canada and a bunch of trialists vs Trinidad...

At the end of the day, U-23 qualifying is real hard. We have never come close. Honduras is a real top team at this level, they won the competition twice, last series they beat the US in the US. Panama is always competitive, their youth teams have been very impressive over the last decade, and well Mexico is just world class. They just won the U17 WC, came in top 4 in the U20 or something so, plus the core of their team play in the Copa America last year...
I have NO PROBLEM whatsoevere with the results vs Honduras and Panama...Its the Mexico game that hurts.
Nothing wrong with having teams better than u, we were competitive in the last 2 games, but we collapsed in the first. I did not see the game, so I will not be too judgemental on Eve, maybe he should have made more tactical switches, some of the blame obviously lies with the players as they were the ones on the field...
This is the big difference betwene a pedigree, proven international coach and local coaches - the ability to mould a team that can keep shape, discipline and adjust when they ned to...
Man talking about how we cant do the basics and looking bun on the field and playing book kick football. If u take this T&T team and put them against lesser opposition, they will look like Brazil. But playing against a better team (mexico) who play fast one touch, high pressure game, we cannot do the things we usually do. thats why Barcelona look so good, they press insanely to put pressure on the opposition and make them give away possession and chase the game and get tired.
Out football philosophy is not Barcelona's nor is it Mexico's, it will never be. But if we are to compete with CONCACAF best, we have to figure out a way to better neutralise their strengths and promote ours. We have failed to do this over the last 50 years. The US has figured out how to do it. Canada has done on occassions. Jamaica and T&T have not.

We have 2 options now - wait till we produce another stream of very talented ballers like we did in the late 80's early 90's or we make an investment to get world class trainers and turn our average players now into competitive teams.
I much prefer the latter.
The first plan we tried and won tons of Digicel Cups and waltzed thru early WCQ rounds only to come up short.
The second plan with Beenhakker saw a very structured team assembled with experienced, average players. None of theose players had he raw talent of Evans Wise, Jerren Nixon, Leonson Lewis, terry St Louis, Arnold Dwarika etc, but look what happened (we also had some luck too and a spark with latas).

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Trinitozbone on March 30, 2012, 01:16:47 PM
Sando you right about that! When is Alvin going to stop that shit! He is so transparent in his approach! Writing in his son's favour all the time s o he could stay in a job and our football has now run to the bottom! Are the people in TTFF stupid? How come  he is fooling them for so long!
Are these men going to continue in this vein and hold the entire country to ransom? History will not be kind to these self serving rascals!
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Observer on April 02, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
I have to agree with Flex on many issues. Simply looking at coaching and not properly reviewing all the factors involved, will always give an impression that only one element is/was missing.

First to begin with. Utilizing University players who have not played competitive football since Oct-Nov is a risk. Not enough time to gain fitness and then get match fit. It is now 2012, University players cannot make the grade. Just L :thinking: :thinking: K at the finals?

What is the role of the clubs in all of this? Technical, Physical weaknesses etc. They must be held accountable!
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: palos on April 02, 2012, 11:35:04 AM
I have to agree with Flex on many issues. Simply looking at coaching and not properly reviewing all the factors involved, will always give an impression that only one element is/was missing.

First to begin with. Utilizing University players who have not played competitive football since Oct-Nov is a risk. Not enough time to gain fitness and then get match fit. It is now 2012, University players cannot make the grade. Just L :thinking: :thinking: K at the finals?

What is the role of the clubs in all of this? Technical, Physical weaknesses etc. They must be held accountable!


Canada....a team that in my opinion is not necessarily BETTER than T&T.....lost to mexico 3-1.  It could have been 6 but you RARELY see a DECENT team losing by such a margin....even if the opposition is much better than they are.

This Mexico team is special.  They have players at pretty much every position except goalie.  They're susceptible in the air and from dead ball situations, but otherwise....you not beating them on technical ability, speed, athleticism, or tactics.

The reason why Canada concedes "only" 3 goals and T&T conceded 7 is down to lack of organisation, maybe a goalie having an "off" night,  and to some extent...lack of heart.

THAT's IT.  And I'm sorry....lack of organisation comes down to coaching.  NOT the Pro league.  NOT the University.  NOT Jack Warner.  NOT Kamla.  COACHING.

Our national teams are SELDOM organized....especially at the back.   And if it's difficlut for EXPERIENCED, foreign coaches to get our players to play defensively in an organized manner (Beenie being the notable exception...but dey lambaste him for taking the "flair" out of our players for doing so), then our local coaches are beyond clueless as to how to implement it.

Until then...we will continue to colleck serious goal in we pweffen.  We keep banging our heads against the wall.  Maybe one day we will defy all the odds and the wall will soften.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: saint27 on April 02, 2012, 11:54:16 AM
Eve doh know wat he doin ....... For the whole tournament we did not play with a creative CM ...we had two of them and they were wasted on the wings ....... Molino get a game in d cm against Mexico but we were outclassed in that game
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Trini on April 02, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
Good post Palos,
to this day it still have some men braying that Latas should have played more in the World Cup...

You said it rite - decent teams do not get routed, they might get beaten by a better team, but not routed.
Every single game we play the main goal should be to avoid defeat.
We shuold have a very disciplined structure.
Winning comes in afterwards.

Why u think Mexicans players look so fast vs Trinidad and Tobago? is because we bun, out of position and not as good technically.
Technically, we may never be as good as them, but I know for a fact that we faster and stronger.
mexico also knows this and plans accordingly.

So all u need to do is work on the tactical formation/structure to neutralise their strengths.
This is one of those things thats a lot easier said than done, as u need the players, coaching and prep games to get good at it.
You do not have to be better than another team to beat them in this game...

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Deeks on April 02, 2012, 04:25:16 PM
Eve doh know wat he doin ....... For the whole tournament we did not play with a creative CM ...we had two of them and they were wasted on the wings ....... Molino get a game in d cm against Mexico but we were outclassed in that game

Right now we are sorely lacking in good mid-fielders. Both offensive and defensive. Molino appears to be the best of the bunch but is still lacking in effectiveness especially went the tempo is hot like the first game against Mex. As a matter of fact the entire team can't handle an untempo game.
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sam on April 03, 2012, 04:36:26 AM
Quote
Canada....a team that in my opinion is not necessarily BETTER than T&T.....lost to mexico 3-1.  It could have been 6 but you RARELY see a DECENT team losing by such a margin....even if the opposition is much better than they are.

This Mexico team is special.  They have players at pretty much every position except goalie.  They're susceptible in the air and from dead ball situations, but otherwise....you not beating them on technical ability, speed, athleticism, or tactics.

The reason why Canada concedes "only" 3 goals and T&T conceded 7 is down to lack of organisation, maybe a goalie having an "off" night,  and to some extent...lack of heart.

THAT's IT.  And I'm sorry....lack of organisation comes down to coaching.  NOT the Pro league.  NOT the University.  NOT Jack Warner.  NOT Kamla.  COACHING.

Our national teams are SELDOM organized....especially at the back.   And if it's difficlut for EXPERIENCED, foreign coaches to get our players to play defensively in an organized manner (Beenie being the notable exception...but dey lambaste him for taking the "flair" out of our players for doing so), then our local coaches are beyond clueless as to how to implement it.

Until then...we will continue to colleck serious goal in we pweffen.  We keep banging our heads against the wall.  Maybe one day we will defy all the odds and the wall will soften.

Boss reply they Palas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sam on April 24, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
FIXTURES

Group A
July 26, 5.00pm BST; Old Trafford: United Arab Emirates v Uruguay
July 26, 7.45pm BST; Old Trafford: Great Britain v Senegal

July 29, 5.00pm BST; Wembley: Senegal v Uruguay
July 29: 7.45pm BST; Wembley: Great Britain v United Arab Emirates

August 1, 7.45pm BST; Ricoh Arena: Senegal v United Arab Emirates
August 1, 7.45pm BST; Millennium Stadium: Great Britain v Uruguay

Group B
July 26, 2.30pm BST; St James' Park: Mexico v South Korea
July 26, 5.15pm BST; St James' Park: Gabon v Swizterland

July 29: 2.30pm BST; Ricoh Arena: Mexico v Gabon
July 29, 5.15pm BST; Ricoh Arena: South Korea v Swizterland

August 1, 5.00pm BST; Millennium Stadium: Mexico v Swizterland
August 1, 7.45pm BST; Wembley Stadium: South Korea v Gabon

Group C
July 26, 7.45pm BST; Millennium Stadium: Brazil v Egypt
July 26, 7.45pm BST; Ricoh Arena: Belarus v New Zealand

July 29: 12.00pm BST; Old Trafford: Brazil v Belarus
July 29, 2.45pm BST; Old Trafford: Egypt v New Zealand

August 1, 2.30pm BST; St James' Park: Brazil v New Zealand
August 1, 2.30pm BST; Hampden Park: Egypt v Belarus

Group D
July 26, 12.00pm BST; Hampden Park: Spain v Japan
July 26, 2.45pm BST; Hampden Park: Honduras v Morocco

July 29: 5.00pm BST; St James' Park: Spain v Honduras
July 29, 7.45pm BST; St James' Park: Japan v Morocco

August 1, 5.00pm BST; Old Trafford: Spain v Morocco
August 1, 5.00pm BST; Ricoh Arena: Japan v Honduras

Top two teams go through to the quarter-finals

QUARTER-FINALS

August 4, 12.00pm BST; Old Trafford: Winner of D v Runner-up of C
August 4, 2.30pm BST; Wembley Stadium: Winner of B v Runner-up of A
August 4, 5.00pm BST; St James' Park: Winner of C v Runner-up D
August 4, 7.30pm BST; Millennium Stadium: Winner of A v Runner-up of B

SEMI-FINALS

August 7, 5.00pm BST; Wembley Stadium: Winner of QF 1 v Winner of QF 2
August 7, 7.45pm BST; Old Trafford: Winner of QF 3 v Winner of QF 4

BRONZE MEDAL MATCH

August 10, 7.45pm BST; Millennium Stadium

GOLD MEDAL MATCH

August 11, 3.00pm BST; Wembley Stadium

GROUP A
GREAT BRITAIN 
SENEGAL 
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 
URUGUAY 

GROUP B
 MEXICO 
SOUTH KOREA 
GABON 
SWITZERLAND 

GROUP C
BRAZIL 
EGYPT 
BELARUS 
NEW ZEALAND 

GROUP D
SPAIN 
JAPAN 
HONDURAS 
MOROCCO 

Title: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on January 28, 2015, 05:55:27 PM
Can anyone provide a list of eligible candidates for T&T upcoming Olympic and PanAmerican games?

Just for our info, thats all.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on January 29, 2015, 07:16:23 AM
players must be born on or after jan 1 1993
daniel carr huddersfield town ...
Title: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: elan on February 12, 2015, 10:57:38 PM
United States named host of CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship in October (http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/02/12/united-states-named-host-concacaf-olympic-qualifying-championship-2015)


(http://www.mlssoccer.com/sites/league/files/imagecache/620x350/image_nodes/2015/02/Rio2016-Logo%28FORMATTED%29.jpg)


The United States will play host to the CONCACAF qualifying tournament for the 2016 Olympic Games later this year from Oct. 1-13, it was announced Thursday by CONCACAF.


The 2015 Olympic Qualifying Championship – an under-23 competition – will send two teams directly to the Olympic Football Tournament Rio 2016, with a third nation earning the right to face South American Olympic qualifying runner-up Colombia in a playoff for one additional spot to Rio.

This year's tournament will feature eight nations divided into two groups of four, with the top two finishers in each group after round-robin play advancing to the semifinals. Host venues and ticketing information for the competition will be announced in the near future.

The 2015 CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship will include host USA, as well as North American automatic qualifiers Canada and defending Olympic champions Mexico. Those three countries will be joined by three nations from the Central American region and two from the Caribbean, with qualifiers in those regions to be disputed in the coming months.


The CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship USA 2015 kicks off on Oct. 1, with group play continuing through Oct. 7. The final matchday for both groups, as well as the semifinal date, third-place match and the final, all fall within the FIFA match date window scheduled for Oct. 5-13, meaning all nations will be able to call on their top under-23 players worldwide for the decisive phase of the championship, should they choose to do so.

The final tournament schedule and kick-off times will be set following the qualifying tournaments in Central America and the Caribbean. The United States also hosted the previous CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship, in 2012, when matches were hosted in Kansas City, Los Angeles and Nashville.

The US and Canada both failed to qualify from that tournament as Mexico and Honduras advanced to London 2012.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on February 13, 2015, 06:34:36 AM
Let's see what TTFA have in store for the U-23. This group of guys from the recent U-20 should be in this.. Prepare for the PanAm and be ready for the Olympic qualifiers.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on February 13, 2015, 08:54:23 AM
Let's see what TTFA have in store for the U-23. This group of guys from the recent U-20 should be in this.. Prepare for the PanAm and be ready for the Olympic qualifiers.

Indeed. Ah had a chance to reflect on this from 2 differing perspectives. The first: teams in CONMEBOL WC U20 qualifying that qualify for the Olympics would have had an immensely long period of preparation as a unit ... relative to the format we employ in CONCACAF ... and given that we (regionally)  separate 2 different age group cohorts (U23 and U20) while they focus on primarily one (U20) and build, the issue of achieving an effective team balance and chemistry occurs "faster" and more organically for them. This is a process output.

The second: I didn't have an opportunity to view the CONCACAF qualifying matches, but I come away from CONMEBOl qualifying with the sense that a cadre of T&T U20 players ... at the very minimum ... fit into the middle of the pack vis-a-vis players I have seen on display in the CONMEBOL tourney. I can see where certain players from Argentina and Brazil and Uruguay are definitely superior ... but I can also see where our players have more than many others here.

What players here are able to do collectively and better (generally seamlessly) is to (1) manage critical game moments and to (2) alter the playing rhythm and intensity without loss of possession and concentration. But, on an individual, generalized pound for pound, region to region, player to player analysis, we (Trinbagonians) might be underselling undervaluing what we have as a product.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on February 13, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
If I had my way, the U-20 and some of the guys who did not go to JA would be training and playing until after Rio. I am assuming we would qualify for Rio. But right after Rio is more WC football. Providing they move pass the Concacaf group stage. We need friggin MONEY. NOW.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: AB.Trini on February 13, 2015, 08:57:12 PM
What has Canada done to be an automatic qualifier? Like dem have ah "Special Adviser"
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on February 13, 2015, 10:26:48 PM
What has Canada done to be an automatic qualifier? Like dem have ah "Special Adviser"

Mexico got bye as they are the current Olympic champs. Us get a bye as host. So Canada probably beat Bermuda to qualify as North American Champs.??
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Trini _2022 on February 16, 2015, 06:55:48 AM
From Panama

http://somoslasele.com/noticias/4217/seleccion-sub-23-jugara-dos-partidos-ante-cuba-en-la-habana

U-23 will play two games against Cuba in Havana


Nelson Gallego team led begin training in microcycles from February 23
The U23 national team, which will seek a place in the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro next year, will play two warm-up matches against its similar to Cuba, said Thursday the Panamanian Football Federation (FEPAFUT).
The FEPAFUT and Cuban couple reached an agreement to play these two games the 4th and 6th of April at the Pedro Marrero Stadium in Havana, capital of Haiti.
For these meetings, technical Nelson Gallego has prepared a training plan for microcycles three days a week, which begin on February 23 and continue through the month of March.
The journey of selection is scheduled for April 2 and will return on 7 November.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on March 04, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
so when will our screening  start ?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Errol on April 07, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
I do not know when training starts, or if we have a coach or even a team.

However, a few players that should be looked at.

Greg Ranjitsingh, Kristian Lee-Him, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr, Chris Regis, Hallam Hope, Dwight Ceballo, John Bostock, Morgan Bruce and Noah Powder.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on April 07, 2015, 02:33:39 PM
don't be surprised if our federation pulls out .
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 07, 2015, 02:38:45 PM
Who say we don't have a coach. What is Hart there for ? Good looks?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on April 07, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
Who say we don't have a coach. What is Hart there for ? Good looks?
hart is senior team coach .. not olympic team coach
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 07, 2015, 03:45:50 PM
Who say we don't have a coach. What is Hart there for ? Good looks?
hart is senior team coach .. not olympic team coach

And why can't he coach the Olympic team. Who says a senior team coach can't run the Olympic team or at least liaise with an assistant coach. I would prefer him coach the team.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Sam on April 13, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
Zoran Vranes go be a good coach for this team.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: coache on April 13, 2015, 03:33:13 PM
I really enjoy reading the opinions of the various individuals who enlighten me with so much enthusiasm.

Zoran Vranes, Stephen Hart , and who ever else..

I beg the question why these names?

We like to post our opinions without reason..I would be very interested to know why either of these coaches would be suited for the Olympic team.

I would also like to hear what would be the goal for the Olympic team ,what plans are in place to achieve
achieve that goal.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 13, 2015, 03:36:50 PM
The goal of the Olympic team is to win the Gold. Simple!
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: coache on April 13, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
Okay Deeks ..to win the Gold Medal..now I ask by what means and under whose leadership?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: elan on April 13, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Who say we don't have a coach. What is Hart there for ? Good looks?
hart is senior team coach .. not olympic team coach

And why can't he coach the Olympic team. Who says a senior team coach can't run the Olympic team or at least liaise with an assistant coach. I would prefer him coach the team.

Hart Assistant should be the Olympic Team Coach.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: coache on April 13, 2015, 04:24:47 PM
Why don't we nominate Flex.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 21, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
Zoran Vranes go be a good coach for this team.



Zoran Vranes was announced Olympic Team head coach.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 21, 2015, 04:46:43 PM
Zoran Vranes go be a good coach for this team.



Zoran Vranes was announced Olympic Team head coach.


i

Congrats to Zoran. Should not be surprised. He has been around for years. Good luck!
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 21, 2015, 05:03:02 PM
Vranes takes charge of T&T Olympic team.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Preparations begin for Olympic qualifiers

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association will on Wednesday morning commence preparation of a squad of invited players for the upcoming Caribbean Football Union Leg of the 2016 Men’s Olympic qualifiers which begins in early August.

The TTFA today wishes to announce that  Zoran Vranes will serve as head coach of the National Under 23 team. Vranes will oversee the preparation of the team for its opening qualifying round in Puerto Rico from June 22nd. He will also oversee preparation of the team to represent this country at the Pan American Games in Canada in July.

The Caribbean Football Union will announce T&T's group for the opening round of the Olympic qualifiers in due course. The top two teams from the Caribbean will advance to the CONCACAF Final Olympic qualifying round which takes place in the United States between October 1st to 15th this year.

CONCACAF will  qualify two teams for the Rio 2016 Olympics.  The third-placed team in CONCACAF will advance to the CONCACAF–CONMEBOL play-off where they will play against a representative from CONMEBOL, which will be the Colombia, the 2015 South American Youth Football Championship runner-up

Included in Vranes’ squad are several players from the recent T&T Under 20 team, other members from the T&T Pro  League and six US-based players. 

Among the names are North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez and Jomal Williams who made their senior international debut against Panama last month, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed. Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones, another member of the T&T Senior team.

Vranes, delighted to be back at the helm of a national team, said the Olympic qualification is sure to be a challenging one.

“First of all, I am very happy to be back working with a national team. I’ve had some great experiences working with national teams of Trinidad and Tobago and this now a continuation as I try to have a positive input. Of course we went to the Under 20 World Cup in Egypt in 2009 and I was the coach of that team with players like Kevin Molino, Akeem Adams and Sheldon Bateau and now we have a chance to go to Brazil for the Olympics in 2016,” Vranes told TTFA Media.

“But this is going to be a difficult task now. We are a little bit behind time but okay, this is not something we cannot overcome. I think the qualification is more challenging than the World Cup because only two teams from CONCACAF will qualify directly. We have a lot of work to do but I think there are players with a lot of potential and experience in the squad now and we will use everything we have to make it happen for us,” he added.

“Many of these players I have worked with and observed in the Pro League and this is also an opportunity to prepare the players knocking on the door for the Senior team and I know they will be quite eager to do well in the Olympic team,” Vranes continued.

Vranes is also a former T&T Senior Team head coach and assistant coach. The T&T team will train at 8am on Wednesday at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on April 21, 2015, 06:28:05 PM
 :-[
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Football supporter on April 21, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
Vranes takes charge of T&T Olympic team.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Preparations begin for Olympic qualifiers

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association will on Wednesday morning commence preparation of a squad of invited players for the upcoming Caribbean Football Union Leg of the 2016 Men’s Olympic qualifiers which begins in early August.

The TTFA today wishes to announce that  Zoran Vranes will serve as head coach of the National Under 23 team. Vranes will oversee the preparation of the team for its opening qualifying round in Puerto Rico from June 22nd. He will also oversee preparation of the team to represent this country at the Pan American Games in Canada in July.

The Caribbean Football Union will announce T&T's group for the opening round of the Olympic qualifiers in due course. The top two teams from the Caribbean will advance to the CONCACAF Final Olympic qualifying round which takes place in the United States between October 1st to 15th this year.

CONCACAF will  qualify two teams for the Rio 2016 Olympics.  The third-placed team in CONCACAF will advance to the CONCACAF–CONMEBOL play-off where they will play against a representative from CONMEBOL, which will be the Colombia, the 2015 South American Youth Football Championship runner-up

Included in Vranes’ squad are several players from the recent T&T Under 20 team, other members from the T&T Pro  League and six US-based players. 

Among the names are North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez and Jomal Williams who made their senior international debut against Panama last month, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed. Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones, another member of the T&T Senior team.

Vranes, delighted to be back at the helm of a national team, said the Olympic qualification is sure to be a challenging one.

“First of all, I am very happy to be back working with a national team. I’ve had some great experiences working with national teams of Trinidad and Tobago and this now a continuation as I try to have a positive input. Of course we went to the Under 20 World Cup in Egypt in 2009 and I was the coach of that team with players like Kevin Molino, Akeem Adams and Sheldon Bateau and now we have a chance to go to Brazil for the Olympics in 2016,” Vranes told TTFA Media.

“But this is going to be a difficult task now. We are a little bit behind time but okay, this is not something we cannot overcome. I think the qualification is more challenging than the World Cup because only two teams from CONCACAF will qualify directly. We have a lot of work to do but I think there are players with a lot of potential and experience in the squad now and we will use everything we have to make it happen for us,” he added.

“Many of these players I have worked with and observed in the Pro League and this is also an opportunity to prepare the players knocking on the door for the Senior team and I know they will be quite eager to do well in the Olympic team,” Vranes continued.

Vranes is also a former T&T Senior Team head coach and assistant coach. The T&T team will train at 8am on Wednesday at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.



Vranes may not see many of these boys this week as clubs have important games this weekend.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: SWF Reporter on April 22, 2015, 08:19:48 AM
Vranes takes over T&T Olympic team; but disappointed with TTFA timeline
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
 
Former Central FC head coach Zoran Vranes is set to return to the international arena after agreeing to take charge of the Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team for their Rio 2016 Olympics qualifying campaign.
Vranes expects to be assisted by former Trinidad and Tobago international Reynold Carrington, who recently resigned his post as Point Fortin Civic head coach, ex-St Ann’s Rangers coach Gilbert Bateau and Rangers goalkeeping coach Nigel Neverson.
However, Vranes, who steered Trinidad and Tobago to the Egypt 2009 World Youth Cup, cautioned fans to be realistic about the journey ahead. And the Yugoslavia-born coach admitted he might not have accepted the job if he was aware of the time frame before the squad’s first competitive assignment.
The Under-23 “Soca Warriors” will start their campaign on 22 June 2015 in a Caribbean group in Puerto Rico. But Vranes claimed he was initially told that their Olympic qualifiers would start in August.
“If I knew (earlier) our qualifiers started in June, I would not have accepted,” Vranes told Wired868. “I had information that it was in August. I have a month to prepare the team but I will not say that we have no chance...
“We made plans for August and tomorrow is the first day of training. But I was told today that (the Olympic qualifiers will start in) June. Now, I have to sit down to make new plans.”
Ironically, Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee is a member of CONCACAF’s Associated Championships Committee which is mandated to: “organise the associated competitions and Olympic Football Tournaments in compliance with the provisions of the regulations applicable to these tournaments.”
Tim Kee’s presumed inside knowledge of the 2016 Olympic qualifying series seems to have been of little assistance to the current Under-23 squad.
Vranes conceded that the Olympic race is a devilishly difficult one, even in the best of circumstances for Trinidad and Tobago. It remains the only global competition that a men’s national team has never qualified for.
“To go to the Olympics is more difficult than to go to the World Cup because only two CONCACAF teams will go,” said Vranes. “Also, the Under-23 guys in Mexico, the United States, Costa Rica and so on are all professionals. We are behind them.
“If we prepare very well, we will compete (and) you never know. Football is football. But it is very tough. That is reality. But I have nice footballers and I will work as hard as I can.”
CONCACAF has just two automatic spots for the 2016 Olympic Games while the third placed team will face a Play Off against South American opposition. Trinidad and Tobago finished second in CONCACAF on just three occasions in our history.
In 1973, a T&T team that included greats like Everald “Gally” Cummings, Steve David and Warren Archibald whipped Mexico 4-0 but finished second to Haiti and just missed the solitary 1974 World Cup place at stake. Trinidad and Tobago got the ball in the back of the net on five occasions, in a controversial 2-1 loss to Haiti, but only one goal was permitted against the host team. FIFA subsequently banned the El Salvador referee Jose Henriquez who officiated in that qualifier.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/04/21/vranes-takes-over-t-but-disappointed-with-ttfa-timeline/
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: elan on April 22, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
U-23s Continue Rivalry with Mexico in Carson (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/04/22/10/06/150422-u23mnt-v-mex-continuing-the-rivalry-vid)

The U-23 MNT is preparing for Olympic Qualifying later this year and their first home match of 2015 is against Mexico in Carson. Watch as the USA prepares for a match against their archrival with an eye towards qualifying and Rio de Janeiro next year.

https://www.youtube.com/v/f5PTF3ccUEU


Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: elan on April 22, 2015, 10:07:37 PM
USAvsMEX U23 live stream now.

http://rivosport.net/ch1.html#www.rojadirecta.me (http://rivosport.net/ch1.html#www.rojadirecta.me)
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: elan on April 22, 2015, 10:58:56 PM
Hope someone at the TTFA is up watching this game.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on April 23, 2015, 02:07:08 AM
TT Olympic squad to face Suriname.
T&T Newsday Reports.  


Trinidad and Tobago’s Men’s Olympic team will kick off their qualifying campaign for the 2016 Olympics with a Group 4 Caribbean Football Union Qualifying match against Suriname in Puerto Rico on June 24th.

The fixtures, released by the CFU show TT in Group F along with hosts Puerto Rico, Suriname and the winner of the Dominica versus St Vincent/Grenadines tie.

Only the winner of the group will advance to the CFU Final Round in August from which the top two teams will move on to the CONCACAF Final round in the United States in October. TT’s Olympic team began preparations at the Hasely Crawford Stadium yesterday morning under head coach Zoran Vranes.

The former TT Senior team and Under 20 head coach believes TT can move into the CONCACAF phase but wants his players to know the qualification campaign will be no easy task.

“Well you can see it’s not going to be an easy ride at all. Only one team will come out of our group and we are playing away from home. Okay, we know all of these teams from the past but football is always played one the day,” he told TTFA Media.

“But our players have the experience and the capability to beat these teams. They will have to focus from the start and take that through to the entire campaign. Qualifying for the Olympic games is a great achievement and every country wants to be there. This is like a World Cup because the football tournament at the Olympics has a lot of significance as well,” Vranes added.

The CFU also released the fixtures for the Women’s Olympic qualifiers. Trinidad and Tobago are in Group 2 from August 21st to 25th. TT will open the group against Cayman Islands on August 21st. They will also face St Lucia on August 23rd and Antigua/Barbuda on August 25th.

The winners of the four preliminary groups will advance to the CFU Finals in October. The top three teams will then enter the final CONCACAF round which will involve a final eight teams from which the top two will advance to the Olympics.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Football supporter on April 23, 2015, 04:41:47 AM
The Following Players have been included in the Trinidad and Tobago Under 23 Men's Provisional Squad to begin preparations for the 2016 Olympic Games Qualification bid.

T&T kicks off its campaign against Suriname on June 24th in Puerto Rico.

# Name Surname D.O.B. Club
1 Montell Joseph 27-1-97 UK-based
2 Johan Sample 13-4-95 Central FC
3 Aaron Enill 4-6-95 San Juan Jabloteh
4 Christopher Biggette 17-2-96 St.Ann’s Rangers
5 Josiah Trimmingham 14-12-96 Jabloteh
6 Martieon Watson 13-10-96 W.Connection
7 Brandon Creed 10-12-96 Temple University
8* Shannon Gomez 5-10-96 W.Connection
9 Maurice Ford 6-9-96 W.Connection
10 Leland Archer 8-1-96 Charleston
11 Aikim Andrews 20-6-96 W. Connection
12* Akeem Garcia 11-9-96 W.Connection
13 Levi Garcia 20-11-97 Central FC
14 Kion Joseph 13-6-95 N.E. Stars
15 Kevon Goddard 20-1-96 Central FC
16 Kishun Seecharan 6-6-96 Defence F
17* Neveal Hackshaw 21-9-95 N.E.Stars
18 Duane Muckette 1-7-95 University of South FL
19 Matthew Wooling 15-9-96 W.Connection
20 Ricardo John 10-4-95 Virginia Tech. University
21 Brent Sam 18-4-96 Jabloteh
22 Kadeem Corbin 4-3-96 St.Ann’s
23 Jesus Perez 11-9-95 N.E.Stars
24* Alvin Jones 9-7-94 W.Connection
25 Neil Benjamin 20.8.94 W.Connection
26 Dario Holmes 9-2-94 Jabloteh
27 Glen Sutton 4.7.94 Pt.Fortin Civic Centre
28* Jomal Williams 28-4-94 W.Connection
29 Shackiel Henry 2-4-94 Pt. Fortin Civic Centre
30 Keane Mc Ivor 6-10-93 Robert.Morris Univ.
31 Greg Ranjitsingh 18-7-93 Mercer University
32 Calib Sturge 25-12-95 Jabloteh
33 Triston Hodge 9-10-94 W.Connection
34 Jelani Felix 22-11-93 Defence F.
35 Dwight Quintero 20-1-94 Central FC
36 Nathanial Garcia 24-4-93 Central FC
37 Jelani Peters St.Ann’s
38 Akeem Redhead 6-8-93 Pt. Fortin CC
39 Jabari Mitchell 1-5-97 W.Connection
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on April 23, 2015, 05:59:14 AM
Here's a revolutionary idea:

40. Panos Nakhid? Why not have a look? The academic year is coming to a close and ... well, what's there to lose?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Sando on April 23, 2015, 06:51:51 AM
The Following Players have been included in the Trinidad and Tobago Under 23 Men's Provisional Squad to begin preparations for the 2016 Olympic Games Qualification bid.

T&T kicks off its campaign against Suriname on June 24th in Puerto Rico.

# Name Surname D.O.B. Club
1 Montell Joseph 27-1-97 UK-based
2 Johan Sample 13-4-95 Central FC
3 Aaron Enill 4-6-95 San Juan Jabloteh
4 Christopher Biggette 17-2-96 St.Ann’s Rangers
5 Josiah Trimmingham 14-12-96 Jabloteh
6 Martieon Watson 13-10-96 W.Connection
7 Brandon Creed 10-12-96 Temple University
8* Shannon Gomez 5-10-96 W.Connection
9 Maurice Ford 6-9-96 W.Connection
10 Leland Archer 8-1-96 Charleston
11 Aikim Andrews 20-6-96 W. Connection
12* Akeem Garcia 11-9-96 W.Connection
13 Levi Garcia 20-11-97 Central FC
14 Kion Joseph 13-6-95 N.E. Stars
15 Kevon Goddard 20-1-96 Central FC
16 Kishun Seecharan 6-6-96 Defence F
17* Neveal Hackshaw 21-9-95 N.E.Stars
18 Duane Muckette 1-7-95 University of South FL
19 Matthew Wooling 15-9-96 W.Connection
20 Ricardo John 10-4-95 Virginia Tech. University
21 Brent Sam 18-4-96 Jabloteh
22 Kadeem Corbin 4-3-96 St.Ann’s
23 Jesus Perez 11-9-95 N.E.Stars
24* Alvin Jones 9-7-94 W.Connection
25 Neil Benjamin 20.8.94 W.Connection
26 Dario Holmes 9-2-94 Jabloteh
27 Glen Sutton 4.7.94 Pt.Fortin Civic Centre
28* Jomal Williams 28-4-94 W.Connection
29 Shackiel Henry 2-4-94 Pt. Fortin Civic Centre
30 Keane Mc Ivor 6-10-93 Robert.Morris Univ.
31 Greg Ranjitsingh 18-7-93 Mercer University
32 Calib Sturge 25-12-95 Jabloteh
33 Triston Hodge 9-10-94 W.Connection
34 Jelani Felix 22-11-93 Defence F.
35 Dwight Quintero 20-1-94 Central FC
36 Nathanial Garcia 24-4-93 Central FC
37 Jelani Peters St.Ann’s
38 Akeem Redhead 6-8-93 Pt. Fortin CC
39 Jabari Mitchell 1-5-97 W.Connection

What's the asterisk for?

And thank you for the news.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Sando on April 23, 2015, 06:57:47 AM
Sorry, I figured it out, senior team appearance.

 :D

I guess Yohan Welch is out.

Some very good players here though.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on April 23, 2015, 10:04:02 AM
Sorry, I figured it out, senior team appearance.

 :D

I guess Yohan Welch is out.

Some very good players here though.


Sorry, I figured it out, senior team appearance.

 :D

I guess Yohan Welch is out.

Some very good players here though.



Are you surprised?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on April 23, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
Montell Joseph ??  which team does he play for in the UK ..... how about adding  Dan Carr  also....
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: maxg on April 23, 2015, 05:12:35 PM
Montell Joseph ??  which team does he play for in the UK ..... how about adding  Dan Carr  also....
http://www.forestunitedyouthfc.co.uk/

ah beat tALLMAN..YYYAAAAAYYYY     :rotfl:
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Tallman on May 26, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Trinidad and Tobago U-23s will face Antigua & Barbuda in two friendlies on May 29th and 31st in Antigua.
http://antiguaobserver.com/fa-confirms-friendlies-for-benna-boys/
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Tallman on May 27, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
T&T U-23 pulls out of friendly matches with Antigua & Barbuda
http://antiguaobserver.com/tt-pulls-out-of-benna-boys-friendly-matches/
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: Trini _2022 on May 28, 2015, 02:55:00 PM
T&T U-23 pulls out of friendly matches with Antigua & Barbuda
http://antiguaobserver.com/tt-pulls-out-of-benna-boys-friendly-matches/

ahhh tim kee
Title: Re: CONCACAF Olympic Qualifying Championship 2015
Post by: soccerman on May 28, 2015, 03:11:49 PM
T&T U-23 pulls out of friendly matches with Antigua & Barbuda
http://antiguaobserver.com/tt-pulls-out-of-benna-boys-friendly-matches/

ahhh tim kee

That's messed up, for us to cancel so late
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 11, 2015, 01:54:30 AM
Vranes: Pan Am, Olympic footballers working hard.
By Nigel Simon (Guardian).


Yugoslav-born Soca Warriors Olympic and Pan American Games men’s team football coach, Zoran Vranes says his players are working very hard with what little help they have, and what is needed is help from Government and corporate T&T.

A former T&T senior and Under-20 World Cup coach, Vranes was speaking after his combined team came up against the senior Soca Warriors in a practice scrimmage at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo, yesterday.

The two teams were using the matches as part of preparations for upcoming engagements, with the Stephen Hart-coached senior team set to depart today (Thursday) for a friendly international against Jordan, with its eyes set on next month’s 2015 Concacaf Gold Cup in the USA while Vranes’ players are fine tuning for the Pan American Games and 2016 Olympic Games qualifiers.

The Olympic (Under-23) team will kick off their qualifying campaign for the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympics with a Group F Caribbean Football Union Qualifying match against Suriname in Puerto Rico on June 24 followed by matches against the winner of a playoff between Dominica versus St Vincent/Grenadines on June 26, and two days later versus Puerto Rico.

Only the winner of the group will advance to the CFU Final Round in August from which the top two teams will move on to the Concacaf Final round in the USA in October.

At the Pan American Games which takes place from July 12-26 in Toronto, Canada, T&T comes up against Concacaf powerhouse Mexico, as well as South American duo, Paraguay and Uruguay in Pool B, while Canada, Peru, Panama and Brazil comprise Pool A.

And speaking after the practice match in which his charges were very competitive against their senior peers, Vranes said his team was doing the best possible under the circumstance

“As you can see, the guys are working very hard, but we have to get matches to build more and to work on our weaknesses, and at the moment that is very difficult because we don’t have any support from Government for us to get that international exposure, “said Vranes.

He added, “In this match today (yesterday) against our senior team players we saw the youngsters were able to hold their own for two thirds of the match.

“But for us to get that next level of competitiveness that we need to be successful at the next level, we need exposure against international teams.

A passionate Vranes stressed, “We can do all we want on the training field here at home, but we still will not know how the players will react in real match situations and that is what we need to know as coaches and members of technical staff.

“A lot needs to be put in place for the players on the Pan American and Olympic teams because they are the ones who will be making the step up to the senior squad in the near future, so this is a very key stage in their development.

“If we want these guys to be better at the senior level for T&T, all the work has to be put in now with them at the Olympic and Pan American Games team level, but it will not happen if they don’t get the support from Government, “ stated Vranes.

With two teams to prepare, Vranes while making it clear he will be aiming to do his best with both teams, says from a national stand-point a lot of emphasis must be put into the development of the Olympic team.

T&T men’s Rio de Janeiro 2016 - CFU Olympic qualifiers (June 24-26)
Venue: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Group F:

June 24: Suriname vs T&T

June 26: T&T vs Dominica / St Vincent & Grenadines winner

June 28: Puerto Rico vs T&T

2016 Men’s Pan American Games football groups (July 12-26);
Venue: Tim Hortons Field, Hamilton, Canada.

A: Canada, Peru, Panama, Brazil

B: Paraguay, Uruguay, T&T, Mexico

T&T match schedule:

July 13: T&T vs Uruguay, 5.30pm

July 17: Paraguay vs T&T, 5.30pm

July 21: T&T vs Mexico, 5.30pm

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 12, 2015, 02:01:51 AM
Ministry blank causes Olympic men to miss 3rd camp.
By Ian Prescott (Express).


Football suffering

THE Trinidad and Tobago Olympic men's football team had its third overseas camp postponed, just ten days before going into the 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying tournament in Puerto Rico.

The team is also preparing for the Pan Am Games in August.

The Under-23 Soca Warriors do not have visas, or have confirmed flight, accommodation or funding for its trip to Puerto Rico.

Further, neither the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) nor the Ministry of Sport could provide funding for Zoran Vranes, Trinidad and Tobago's Serbia-born T&T national Under-23 football team head-coach, to travel to Grenada to scout opening Pan Am Games opponents Puerto Rico.

Responding to direct questioning, manager David Muhammad confirmed certain information and also painted a dim picture surrounding the talented young team.

“Tonight (Thursday) we were supposed to send our coach to Grenada to look at the Puerto Rico team play. Nothing,” Muhammad declared. “Up to yesterday, we (the team) were supposed to go to Panama. It was cancelled again. Not a single international game for this team.”

Vranes took control of a talented team containing most of the players that won the 2014 Caribbean Under-20 Championship. Players included in the team are Akeem Garcia, MVP Kadeem Corbin, North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez, Jomal Williams, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed, Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones.

The Under-23 “Soca Warriors” begin their 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship campaign in a Caribbean qualifying group on June 22 against Puerto Rico.

T&T are placed in Group F along with hosts Puerto Rico, Suriname and St Vincent & the Grenadines. But according to Muhammad, coach Vranes' already late preparation is further compromised by lack of warm-up matches.

“This is the third trip that has been cancelled with this team. We have had no camp. We are preparing for trips then it gets cancelled because the Ministry of Sport says it has no money.”

Muhammad said without a camp the team has had to train all around the country at all the local stadiums. They had also won five warm-up matches against local Pro League teams going down 4-2 only to the senior national team.

“When we were supposed to go to Antigua the other day they had us booked on four different flights across two different days,” Muhammad added. “The reason is because every time we book they (Ministry of Sport) don't pay. We lose the booking and have to re-book again. When they re-book again, we lose the flight again. I'll be darn if we have to go to Puerto Rico like that.”


Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 17, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
Final Olympic Men’s Team named by Vranes for CFU qualifiers.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s Olympic Men’s Team head coach Zoran Vranes has announced his final team to contest the opening round of Caribbean Football Union 2016 Olympic qualification in Puerto Rico.

Vranes has been overseeing the team’s preparations for the past few weeks and was able to come down to his final selection this week.

The team is expected to depart to Puerto Rico within the next few days as team manager David Muhammad explained that some players are without US Visas and arrangements are being made for this to be obtained in order for them to travel for the opening group stage of the competition. Muhammed noted that CONCACAF is aware of the situation caused by a delay in visa appointments.

Vranes has a squad of good experience and talent with a few players already earning senior international experience. Those include US-based forward Rundell Winchester, North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Aikim Andrews, Alvin Jones, forward Kadeem Corbin, W Connection wingback Shannon Gomez, W Connection’s Jomal Williams and Jesus Perez.

Several other players have made it from previous T&T Under 20 teams, Neil Benjamin, Dario Holmes, Maurice Ford, Shackiel Henry and Dwight Quintero.

“It’s the best selection we can have and I am confident in the team’s ability,” Vranes told TTFA Media.

“Okay maybe our preparation was not the best because we did not have any international matches but this is the situation and we will try our best to overcome the other teams in Puerto Rico. It is going to be very tough because only one team comes out of the group. The Association tried to give us what they could and now it has come down to this where we will go there and play to win all our matches.

“We have to be organized and not make too many costly mistakes, you know, because we have a lot in attack and I think we will create chances and we will need to put them away,” Vranes added.

T&T is scheduled to play Suriname on June 24th, followed by St Vincent/Grenadines on June 26th and Puerto Rico two days later. The winners of the four CFU groups will advance to the semi-final round in August from which the two finalists will advance to the CONCACAF Final Olympic qualifying phase in the United States.

The Ministry of Sport is a supporter of the team's opening round campaign.

T&T U-23 Team for Olympics qualifiers

1.Aaron Enil – San Juan Jabloteh
2.Jovan Sample – Central FC
3.Maurice Ford – W Connection
4.Jesus Perez – North East Stars
5.Alvin Jones – W Connection
6.Dario Holmes – San Juan Jabloteh
7.Tristan Hodge – W Connection
8.Neveal Hackshaw – North East Stars
9.Montell Joseph – Forest United (UK)
10.Jomal Williams – W Connection
11.Kadeem Corbin – St Ann’s Rangers
12.Shannon Gomez – W Connection
13.Aikim Andrews – W Connection
14.Nathaniel Garcia – Central FC
15.Jelani Felix – Defence Force
16.Dwight Quintero – Central FC
17.Neil Benjamin Jr. – W Connection
18.Shackeil Henry – Point Fortin Civic
19.Jibiri McDavid – Police FC
20.Rundell Winchester – Portland Timbers 2 (USA)

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: King Deese on June 18, 2015, 05:15:12 AM
Dey fine tuning. How is this a strong squad and you lose 4-2 to a shit squad that lost 3-0 to almighty Jordan? Blame the MOS. Come to think of it, the MOS should be held accountable for everything football related, that way Tim Tee and the albatross called the TTFA should be dissolved for being obsolete and useless.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Controversial on June 18, 2015, 09:42:50 AM
are the US based players not good enough to make this team?? I find that hard to believe... i think they did that because of expenses and prohibited them from picking the best team, because they couldn't afford to accommodate them or other expenses... >:(
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 18, 2015, 06:05:58 PM
 Greg Ranjitsingh was he given a look at anyone knows??
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Tallman on June 18, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
Greg Ranjitsingh was he given a look at anyone knows??

I will ask him
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 19, 2015, 12:29:58 PM
T&T Olympic vs Nicaragua Senior Team, today at At Boldon from 5:30pm

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 19, 2015, 07:09:36 PM
T&T lost 1-0.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 19, 2015, 08:32:17 PM
Is the Nicaragua senior team going to play the TT seniors?
Title: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 22, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
Visa delay rocks Warriors; U-23s travel with 12 players for Olympic opener
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


Two days away from the opening qualifier for their 2016 Olympic Games campaign, the Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team is expected to have just 12 players in Puerto Rico, as visa complications have ravaged the “Soca Warriors” outfit.

And, farcically, only five footballers due to land in Puerto Rico today were on coach Zoran Vranes’ initial 20-man team. Among the high profile absentees are St Ann’s Rangers attacker Kadeem Corbin and the DIRECTV W Connection trio of Shannon Gomez, Jomal Williams and Alvin Jones who all have limited senior team experience.

Team manager David Muhammed said the Warriors applied for visas just before they went into camp on June 16, only to be told that no applications could be processed that week.

“We had applied within the regular timeframes,” said Muhammad. “These (Olympic qualifiers) were scheduled for August and our first order of business was the Pan Am Games, which starts in July.

“Then, they rescheduled the Olympic qualifying phase and put it before the Pan Am Games and this reoriented our whole plan… The mad scramble started from there.”

The Olympic qualifying schedule was adjusted on 21 April 2015. It left Under-23 officials with eight weeks, before they entered a live-in camp, to select the squad and sort out passports and visas.

Wired868 did not get an official response from the United States Embassy on the National Under-23 Team’s predicament. However, a consular message on the embassy’s website stated that they experienced “technical problems” since May 26, which are not restricted to Trinidad and Tobago.

“The Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs is currently experiencing technical problems with our overseas passport and visa systems,” stated the US Embassy. “This issue is not specific to any particular country, citizenship document, or visa category. We apologize for the inconvenience and are working urgently to correct the problem and restore full operability.

“Passport applications accepted overseas or after May 26, 2015 are affected by this delay.  If you applied for a U.S. passport overseas during this time frame and have travel plans within the next 10 business days, please consider requesting an emergency passport…”

As reality sunk in that the selected 20-man team could not travel to Puerto Rico to represent their country, Vranes and Muhammed were forced to look through their initial training squad for players who already had visas.

Arguably, it rendered their live-in camp at Normandie Hotel and much of last week’s final tournament preparation as useless.

From Vranes’ final squad, only midfielders Neveal Hackshaw, Jelani Felix and Nathaniel Garcia, unattached goalkeeper Montell Joseph and United States-based forward Rundell Winchester had visas. They were expected to landed in Puerto Rico today where Muhammad was waiting for them.

United States-based university players Adrian Welch, Xavier Rajpaul, Ricardo John and Leland Archer as well as the W Connection and Naparima College duo of Martieon Watson and Jabari Mitchell were recalled solely because they already had visas.

And former National Under-20 midfielder Duane Muckette, who is on trial with New York Cosmos and was initially due to miss the preliminary round, was persuaded to return to help the squad.

Almost certainly, they will be the only players that Vranes will have available to face Suriname on Wednesday afternoon. It means the Serbia-born coach must select his starting team from one goalkeeper, two central defenders, four central midfielders, two wingers and three strikers.

Goalkeeper coach Nigel Neverson also had his visa appointment today and will not get to Puerto Rico until later this week.

“Hopefully, the rest of the team will get here on Wednesday,” said Muhammad.

The remaining eight players who will complete the improvised 20-man squad are: goalkeeper Aaron Enill, defender Jesus Perez, utility players Josiah Trimmingham, Aikim Andrews and Jones, midfielders Williams and Corbin and forward Dwight Quintero.

Trimmingham is the only player in that bunch who was not in the initial Olympic squad for the preliminary round.

Attacker Neil Benjamin Jr was ruled out with an injury. The remaining players who will miss the chance to represent their country due to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association’s inability to acquire visas in time are: defenders Jibiri McDavid, Maurice Ford, Dario Holmes, Triston Hodge and Gomez, forward Shackiel Henry and goalkeeper Javon Sample.

Holmes, McDavid and Hodge were pushing to make their international debuts.

Gomez, who captained Trinidad and Tobago at the 2015 Under-20 CONCACAF Championship and made his senior debut against Panama in March, was a strange case.

Muhammad said Gomez, who applied for his green card last year, was ruled out, as he was not expected to get his travel documents due to complications related to his previous application.

But this was news to the talented 18-year-old full back who showed up at the US Embassy this morning, only to be told that his name was not on the list of interviewees.

“An appointment was supposed to be made for me to see the immigration section,” Gomez told Wired868, “but when I went there they said I was not on the list. So I had to (apply myself) for another appointment (and) they said they would call to see if I can get one by tomorrow morning.

“But right now, it is not looking as if I will be going to Puerto Rico.”

Apparently, Gomez was not informed by Under-23 officials that he was removed from their 20-man squad.

Ironically, the teenaged defender, who has represented his country at every level, was in consideration for the July 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup squad. Senior Warriors coach Stephen Hart said he left Gomez out of his Gold Cup squad because he felt he would be a fringe player with the adults and might benefit more from playing games with the youth team.

“He would have been a strong consideration,” said Hart.

Gomez said he was disappointed but looked forward to rejoining the Under-23 Team for the July Pan American Games and the next Olympic qualifying round in August.

“It is a disappointing feeling,” said Gomez. “I just have to keep my head up and be strong about it… At least for the Pan Am Games and the next (Olympic qualifying) rounds, I will be there.”

Only the group winner will advance to the final Caribbean qualifying rounds in August. Trinidad and Tobago face Suriname on June 24, St Vincent and the Grenadines on June 26 and hosts Puerto Rico on June 28.

Muhammad said the Warriors are in great spirits, despite the issues, and anxious for success. On Saturday, they played their first warm-up match in a closed doors scrimmage with Nicaragua, which they lost 1-0.

“There is a lot of excitement and anxiety (to do well) in the camp,” Muhammad told Wired868. “The spirit in this team is one of the most enthusiastic I’ve encountered in any team.”

Wired868 could not reach TTFA general secretary Sheldon Phillips for comment.

(Trinidad and Tobago Under-23 Team due to arrive in Puerto Rico today)

Goalkeeper: Montell Joseph (Unattached);

Defenders: Leland Archer (College of Charleston—USA), Martieon Watson (W Connection);

Midfielders: Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Jelani Felix (Defence Force), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC), Duane Muckette (North East Stars), Jabari Mitchell (W Connection), Xavier Rajpaul (College of Charleston—USA);

Forwards: Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2—USA), Ricardo John (Virginia Tech—USA), Adrian Welch (St John’s University—USA).

Staff: Zoran Vranes (coach), David Muhammad (manager), Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach/trainer), Michael Taylor (physio), Esmond O’ Brien (equipment manager).

(Remaining squad members still in Trinidad)

Goalkeeper: Aaron Enill (San Juan Jabloteh),

Defenders: Alvin Jones (W Connection), Jesus Perez (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham (San Juan Jabloteh);

Midfielders: Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews (both W Connection), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers);

Forward: Dwight Quintero (Central FC).

Staff: Nigel Neverson (goalkeeper coach).

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
What f is this ?
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 02:04:43 PM
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Muhammad said as many as 13 players did not have valid passports when they began training.

This is a point I will keep hammering. All young players say they are serious about the game, and that they want to pursue opportunities in the game abroad. Yet, they don't have valid passports?!!! In that respect, dahis nonsense on them.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Quote
Muhammad said as many as 13 players did not have valid passports when they began training.

This is a point I will keep hammering. All young players say they are serious about the game, and that they want to pursue opportunities in the game abroad. Yet, they don't have valid passports?!!! In that respect, dahis nonsense on them.

Actually, I would put some blame on the TTFA here. Not entirely though. I think as soon as they selected the guys for training, they should have  told the players that they should get their passports because of the possibility of overseas travel. This is not the first time a youth travelling overseas. TTFA should insist, seeing that these yutes not thinking straight.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
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An appointment was supposed to be made for me to see the immigration section,” Gomez told Wired868, “but when I went there they said I was not on the list. So I had to (apply myself) for another appointment (and) they said they would call to see if I can get one by tomorrow morning.

“But right now, it is not looking as if I will be going to Puerto Rico.”

Apparently, Gomez was not informed by Under-23 officials that he was removed from their 20-man squad.

Ironically, the teenaged defender, who has represented his country at every level, was in consideration for the July 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup squad. Senior Warriors coach Stephen Hart said he left Gomez out of his Gold Cup squad because he felt he would be a fringe player with the adults and might benefit more from playing games with the youth team.

“He would have been a strong consideration,” said Hart.

Once it was reported that he had a green card. Then it was reported that he didn't. Clearly, under present circumstances, he does not.

Nonetheless, the situation with Gomez is not cut and dry with respect to the embassy ... even if his name was on the list. With an application for permanent residence pending, consideration for a non-immigrant visa into the US (which is what he would be seeking) is not necessarily straightforward. In fact, it includes a layer that wouldn't be included regarding the other players.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
What a comesse? >:(
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Flex on June 22, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
Without reading the above report.

Now might be a good time to include the US base players.

Greg Ranjitsingh, Kristian Lee-Him, Brandon Creed, Keane Mc Ivor, Andre Fortune, Dwight Ceballo.

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: soccerman on June 22, 2015, 02:19:23 PM
I thought there was a process for national team players to get their passports expedited for tournaments like this ???
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 02:20:26 PM
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Muhammad said as many as 13 players did not have valid passports when they began training.

This is a point I will keep hammering. All young players say they are serious about the game, and that they want to pursue opportunities in the game abroad. Yet, they don't have valid passports?!!! In that respect, dahis nonsense on them.

Actually, I would put some blame on the TTFA here. Not entirely though. I think as soon as they selected the guys for training, they should have  told the players that they should get their passports because of the possibility of overseas travel. This is not the first time a youth travelling overseas. TTFA should insist, seeing that these yutes not thinking straight.

I eh reach de TTFA yet, but I think it's fair to say that ANY player in this category (and we are not talking about minors) should have some weight placed on his shoulders for not having a valid passport. It's one thing not having a passport, but yuh have a passport and it's not valid, and yuh want to ball abroad? Nah! Not on at all.

Incidentally, how much a passport costs? I need to renew mine.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 02:23:33 PM
Without reading the above report.

Now might be a good time to include the US base players.

Yuh know what the flip side of that is? Some US-based eligible players probably don't have Trini passports.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Flex on June 22, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Actually, these have passports.

Greg Ranjitsingh, Kristian Lee-Him, Brandon Creed, Keane Mc Ivor, Andre Fortune, Dwight Ceballo.

Dwight Ceballo (Tigers) was one of the best defenders in the SSFL a few years ago.

Keane Mc Ivor was a potent goalscorer.

Andre Fortune has been in T&T team for a while. I am surprised he wasn't called up, very good player.

Greg Ranjitsingh as we all know have been doing very well.

Kristian Lee-Him, very good center midfield.

Brandon Creed, well, we all know he's part.

The TTFA knows this but got some of these players to get their passports and never called them up.

Maybe they didn't have the money?

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 02:38:15 PM
Just another chapter in our passport and visa challenges. (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=62813.msg903566#msg903566) Take a trip down memory lane.

And this. (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=56517.msg794587#msg794587) Simply put, when will we progress?
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Controversial on June 22, 2015, 03:02:46 PM
Actually, these have passports.

Greg Ranjitsingh, Kristian Lee-Him, Brandon Creed, Keane Mc Ivor, Andre Fortune, Dwight Ceballo.

Dwight Ceballo (Tigers) was one of the best defenders in the SSFL a few years ago.

Keane Mc Ivor was a potent goalscorer.

Andre Fortune has been in T&T team for a while. I am surprised he wasn't called up, very good player.

Greg Ranjitsingh as we all know have been doing very well.

Kristian Lee-Him, very good center midfield.

Brandon Creed, well, we all know he's part.

The TTFA knows this but got some of these players to get their passports and never called them up.

Maybe they didn't have the money?



Blessing in disguise, the ttfa don't have the money so they left the best players off the team because of money problems..

Now they have to call them back, it's a blessing in disguise.. The players you listed should have been part of the squad and these idiots at ttfa complaining about small talent pool and there is no talent.. That's a lie, there is a lot of players in U.S. And Canada that don't get the call..
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
T&T U23 team selected; Warriors start qualifiers without warm-up match
Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


The Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team will head for the preliminary round of their 2016 Olympic qualifying campaign next week without a single warm-up match under their belts.

Head coach Zoran Vranes today selected a 20-man squad that includes capped senior team players Rundell Winchester, Kadeem Corbin, Shannon Gomez, Neveal Hackshaw and Jomal Williams.

Vranes is forced to do without winger Levi Garcia, who reported for pre-season training with Netherlands top flight club AZ, his namesake Akeem Garcia, who is injured, and playmaker Duane Muckette, who is on trial with North American Soccer League club New York Cosmos.

But the young “Soca Warriors” miss proper preparation more, as they spent the last two months playing against inactive Pro League and Super League clubs due to a lack of funds for international friendlies.

“Okay maybe our preparation was not the best because we did not have any international matches but this is the situation,” Vranes told the TTFA Media, “and we will try our best to overcome the other teams in Puerto Rico.

“It is going to be very tough because only one team comes out of the group.  The Association tried to give us what they could and now it has come down to this where we will go there and play to win all our matches.”

Last week, Under-23 manager David Muhammad told Wired868 that the Warriors were suffering due to a chronic lack of funding by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association and were largely ignored by the Ministry of Sport. They did not even have money for visas.

Muhammad said things have improved financially since then.

“The Ministry approved everything,” he said. “The problem is the amount of money is limited and I do appreciate to a certain extent what they said…

“Everyone in the entire football fraternity seems to read your articles and is up to date with what you write and that is a tremendous achievement.”

Apart from the lack of practice matches or live-in camps, there might be another potential drawback to the late funding as, according to news reports, the United States embassies have delayed visa appointments in the Caribbean until next week.

Potentially, it could cause major issues for the Under-23 squad who are supposed to travel to Puerto Rico on Sunday. However, Muhammad declined comment on possible complications.

He did note though that, despite the problems facing local football, the public should be aware of the people sacrificing behind the scenes to keep the national programmes alive.

“William Wallace puts up with so much disrespect and fights hard and does a lot of the dirty work for the national teams,” said Muhammad. “I have to commend him for that. There are also people like Sharon O’ Brien, Hanifa Cox and DeLyse Mary who are really the backbone of our operations.

“And technical staff members like Ross Russell, Geoffrey Seales, Esmond O’ Brien and Michael Taylor, who take out of their personal finances to make sure the operation runs although they are already not being paid.

“There are a lot of gems in the football federation who get blamed when things go wrong but don’t get the credit when things go well.”

The final 20-man team did not include a single of the dozen or so players screened from United States universities including former national youth players like Xavier Rajpaul, Ricardo John, Brendon Creed and Leland Archer.

There were no local schoolboys either like the Naparima College duo of Jabari Mitchell and Martieon Watson or St Anthony’s College playmaker Matthew Woo Ling as Vranes went with a fully professional squad.

The national youth coach suggested that there was a lot of natural talent in his ranks, which made squad selection difficult. But he warned that Trinidad and Tobago was not producing the calibre of players it did two decades ago when the local leagues included players like Nigel Pierre, Arnold Dwarika and Kerwin “Hardest” Jemmott.

He bemoaned the fact that the Under-23 squad was so poorly prepared although Olympic campaigns come along once every four years and the football body should not have been taken by surprise.

“We have to be very careful because we see smaller countries (like Curaçao) are getting stronger,” Vranes told Wired868. “The quality of football in Trinidad is down as opposed to when I came here 20 years ago. We need to work with (our young players) and give them opportunity to develop.

“And we need help from corporate Trinidad to do that in terms of better preparation and camps and international games. I am not calling any names but I am asking for the nation to help us.”

Vranes vowed that his troops will do their best to advance from their group.

“We are trying very hard,” said the Serbia-born coach. “We have to be organized and not make too many costly mistakes…

“We have a lot (of quality) in attack and I think we will create chances and we will need to put them away.”

Trinidad and Tobago is scheduled to play Suriname (June 24), St Vincent and the Grenadines (June 26) and hosts Puerto Rico (June 28) with only the group winner advancing to the final Caribbean round in August.

The two top Caribbean teams will represent the region in the final CONCACAF Olympic qualifying phase in the United States.

Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 team

Goalkeepers: Aaron Enil (San Juan Jabloteh), Javon Sample (Central FC), Montell Joseph (Unattached);

Defenders: Jibiri McDavid (Police FC), Alvin Jones, Maurice Ford (both W Connection), Dario Holmes (San Juan Jabloteh), Jesus Perez (North East Stars);

Midfielders: Shannon Gomez, Aikim Andrews, Triston Hodge, Jomal Williams (all W Connection), Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Jelani Felix (Defence Force), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC);

Forwards: Dwight Quintero (Central FC), Neil Benjamin Jr (W Connection), Shackiel Henry (Point Fortin Civic) , Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2—US).


NOTE: This article was published prior to the U23 scrimmage versus Nicaragua and prior to passport and visa issues that have impacted the composition of the U23 squad.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: MEP on June 22, 2015, 03:17:59 PM
Incompetence at its best.....why didn't they send a fete match team? or wait maybe they did
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Controversial on June 22, 2015, 03:19:24 PM
Incompetence at its best.....why didn't they send a fete match team? or wait maybe they did

You're talking rubbish, what makes you think the players that replaced them aren't equally as good or better?

Just because they are from the U.S. Doesn't mean they are not talented, in fact they may be more disciplined and professional..
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Excerpted from Lasana's article immediately above, dated June 17, 2015:

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Last week, Under-23 manager David Muhammad told Wired868 that the Warriors were suffering due to a chronic lack of funding by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association and were largely ignored by the Ministry of Sport. They did not even have money for visas.

Muhammad said things have improved financially since then.

“The Ministry approved everything,” he said. “The problem is the amount of money is limited and I do appreciate to a certain extent what they said…

...

Apart from the lack of practice matches or live-in camps, there might be another potential drawback to the late funding as, according to news reports, the United States embassies have delayed visa appointments in the Caribbean until next week.

Potentially, it could cause major issues for the Under-23 squad who are supposed to travel to Puerto Rico on Sunday. However, Muhammad declined comment on possible complications.

http://wired868.com/2015/06/17/t-warriors-start-qualifiers-without-warm-up-match/

And so, here we are.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: MEP on June 22, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Incompetence at its best.....why didn't they send a fete match team? or wait maybe they did

You're talking rubbish, what makes you think the players that replaced them aren't equally as good or better?

Just because they are from the U.S. Doesn't mean they are not talented, in fact they may be more disciplined and professional..
Padnah where did I say that the players were rubbish? show me...????
the mere fact that this team has been put together at the last minute means it is a fete match team...I assume you're familiar with the term fete match and its meaning. That is so typical of people of your ilk..the inability to comprehend what you've read.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Controversial on June 22, 2015, 03:48:25 PM
Incompetence at its best.....why didn't they send a fete match team? or wait maybe they did

You're talking rubbish, what makes you think the players that replaced them aren't equally as good or better?

Just because they are from the U.S. Doesn't mean they are not talented, in fact they may be more disciplined and professional..
Padnah where did I say that the players were rubbish? show me...????
the mere fact that this team has been put together at the last minute means it is a fete match team...I assume you're familiar with the term fete match and its meaning. That is so typical of people of your ilk..the inability to comprehend what you've read.

Fete match team can also refer to players who are unprofessional and not serious.. My apologies for misinterpreting your meaning...

And who is the people of my ilk that can't comprehend? Care to elaborate with everyone.. What you mean by that?
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
LOL. Listening to i95.5 and the presenter is presenting the news practically verbatim from Lasana's article. Good thing she didn't have to write it.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Football supporter on June 22, 2015, 05:16:16 PM
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Muhammad said as many as 13 players did not have valid passports when they began training.

This is a point I will keep hammering. All young players say they are serious about the game, and that they want to pursue opportunities in the game abroad. Yet, they don't have valid passports?!!! In that respect, dahis nonsense on them.

Actually, I think the problem with most players is that they don't have U.S. visas. There has been a global back up of visa applications. Also, I would expect that the Coach did not select his final squad until maybe a week ago. With the lack of money in TTFA, I guess purchasing visas for players who won't travel would be a waste of precious funds.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 22, 2015, 07:26:49 PM
U23s down to 11 players for qualifiers; but Suriname allegedly withdraws
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


The Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team breathed a sigh of relief today as their Suriname counterparts supposedly withdrew from the Caribbean preliminary round of the 2016 Olympic qualifying campaign, which kicks off on Wednesday June 24 in Puerto Rico.

The Caribbean Football Union (CFU) is yet to make an official announcement but Under-23 manager David Muhammad told Wired868 that Suriname, who were due to face the “Soca Warriors” at 5.30 pm on Wednesday were out due to visa issues.

If so, it appears to have saved the Warriors from the embarrassment of starting their campaign with barely half their squad available.

Twelve Trinidad and Tobago footballers left for Puerto Rico yesterday to represent their country in the Olympic qualifying series. But only eleven got there.

Muhammad confirmed that Central FC attacker Nathaniel Garcia got as far as Panama before being turned back due to an improper visa. Garcia allegedly has a student visa that is no longer valid since he quit university last year and joined local Pro League club, Central FC.

“There was a possibility that he would have gotten in,” Muhammad told Wired868.

The versatile attacker’s failure to get to Puerto Rico means that national coach Zoran Vranes would have had just 11 players to choose from for Trinidad and Tobago’s opener against Suriname on Wednesday.
The farcical situation is the result of late visa applications from the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) coupled with a technical glitch that handicapped the United States Embassy’s visa section.

Muhammad explained that the “Soca Warriors” applied for visas just before they entered a live-in camp on June 16.

“We had applied within the regular timeframes,” said Muhammad.

However, a consular message on the Embassy’s website stated that they experienced “technical problems” since May 26, which are not restricted to Trinidad and Tobago.

“The Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs is currently experiencing technical problems with our overseas passport and visa systems,” stated the US Embassy’s website. “This issue is not specific to any particular country, citizenship document, or visa category…

“Passport applications accepted overseas or after May 26, 2015 are affected by this delay. If you applied for a U.S. passport overseas during this time frame and have travel plans within the next 10 business days, please consider requesting an emergency passport…”

The problem proved disastrous to the National Under-23 Team.

There were only four visa holders within Vranes’ final squad, who were midfielders Neveal Hackshaw and Jelani Felix, goalkeeper Montell Joseph and United States-based forward Rundell Winchester had visas.
Garcia, of course, tried to travel with an invalid student visa.

United States-based university players Adrian Welch, Xavier Rajpaul, Ricardo John and Leland Archer as well as the W Connection and Naparima College duo of Martieon Watson and Jabari Mitchell, who were all dropped from the squad at various points, were recalled by the Warriors solely because they already held visas.

And former National Under-20 midfielder Duane Muckette, who is on trial with New York Cosmos and was initially due to miss the preliminary round, was persuaded to return and help the squad.
Another eight players will know tomorrow whether they have been granted visas. And, if so, they will leave for Puerto Rico on Wednesday.

They are: goalkeeper Aaron Enill, defender Jesus Perez, utility players Josiah Trimmingham, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones, midfielders Jomal Williams and Kadeem Corbin and forward Dwight Quintero.
Subject to availability, their flights will touch down in Puerto Rico at either 3.15 pm or 4.17 pm. It is expected to be too late for the players to get to the match venue in time to be processed for kick off, if Suriname did turn up.

Muhammad said Trinidad and Tobago were not the only participants affected by visa issues, which appears to be confirmed by Suriname’s supposed withdrawal. And, despite having an 11-man squad on the brink of a qualifying tournament, the manager congratulated his staff and players for their efforts in making the competition.

“I am very proud of the staff,” Muhammad told Wired868, “that, in light of the circumstances, we were able to put together a strong team to compete by Wednesday.

“That goes to show the depth of our squad. I am proud of the players too for making themselves available, especially Muckette.”

National Under-23 right back Shannon Gomez told Wired868 that he went to the US Embassy this morning only to realise he did not have an appointment.

However, Muhammad said Gomez must have misunderstood the precise details of his dilemma, since the W Connection player was allegedly issued a green card that never reached him due to a family issue. As such, he required a temporary travel document called a “boarding foil” rather than a visa.

“We told him to speak with someone for a boarding foil,” said Muhammad. “I gave him a letter saying he was part of the national team and so on and asking for them to assist him. That’s what he went there for and they told him they cannot give it to him just like that.

“We had told him to sort this situation out for quite some time…”

The eight players were accompanied to the Embassy by Under-23 goalkeeper coach Nigel Neverson, who also needed a visa.

They should all arrive in time to face St Vincent and the Grenadines on June 26 and then Puerto Rico on June 28. Only the group winner will advance to the next Caribbean qualifying round for the Olympic Games in August.

The Warriors are not out of the woods yet.

Tournament rules mandate that each team must select three goalkeepers. However, the Under-23s are only expected to have Joseph and Enill in Puerto Rico this week as Central FC custodian Javon Sample was denied a visa today.

“We will discuss that with (CFU officials) tomorrow morning at 11 am,” said Muhammad. “We will ask if that (rule about goalkeepers) can be amended or what their position is on that at this stage.”

It would be controversial if the CFU imposed sanctions on the Warriors for not selecting three goalkeepers in light of the visa complications.

It was the CFU, after all, that decided to stage a Caribbean competition on the one island in the region which requires travel visas.

(Trinidad and Tobago Under-23 Team in Puerto Rico)

Goalkeepers: Montell Joseph (Unattached);

Defenders: Leland Archer (College of Charleston—USA), Martieon Watson (W Connection);

Midfielders: Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Jelani Felix (Defence Force), Duane Muckette (North East Stars), Jabari Mitchell (W Connection), Xavier Rajpaul (College of Charleston—USA);

Forwards: Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2—USA), Ricardo John (Virginia Tech—USA), Adrian Welch (St John’s University—USA).

Staff: Zoran Vranes (coach), David Muhammad (manager), Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach/trainer), Michael Taylor (physio), Esmond O’ Brien (equipment manager).

(Remaining squad members still in Trinidad)

Goalkeeper: Aaron Enill (San Juan Jabloteh);

Defenders: Alvin Jones (W Connection), Jesus Perez (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham (San Juan Jabloteh);

Midfielders: Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews (both W Connection), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers);

Forward: Dwight Quintero.

Staff: Nigel Neverson (goalkeeper coach).

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
Get Panos Nakhid involved. If we make it out of this round, where allyuh think the next round is?
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
So ... we were reduced to having a player compromise the future by trying to enter the US on an invalid document? SMH! That invalid visa thing was a non-starter from the beginning.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 09:42:00 PM
You know I think the tournament should not be taking place in PR. The U.S. embassies are having this glitch which affecting several countries. It certainly not affecting the U.S. players because it is a US dependency. But the players and TTFA still bear some responsibility.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
Visa delay rocks Warriors; U-23s travel with 12 players for Olympic opener
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


“We had applied within the regular timeframes,” said Muhammad. “These (Olympic qualifiers) were scheduled for August and our first order of business was the Pan Am Games, which starts in July.
“Then, they rescheduled the Olympic qualifying phase and put it before the Pan Am Games and this reoriented our whole plan… The mad scramble started from there.”
The Olympic qualifying schedule was adjusted on 21 April 2015. It left Under-23 officials with eight weeks, before they entered a live-in camp, to select the squad and sort out passports and visas.


So who adjusted the Olympic qualifying schedule... and more importantly, why didn't they coordinate this either with the TTFA or the coaching staff of the U-23 team?

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Muhammad said as many as 13 players did not have valid passports when they began training.

This is a point I will keep hammering. All young players say they are serious about the game, and that they want to pursue opportunities in the game abroad. Yet, they don't have valid passports?!!! In that respect, dahis nonsense on them.

In a nutshell.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2015, 10:43:22 PM
Actually, I would put some blame on the TTFA here. Not entirely though. I think as soon as they selected the guys for training, they should have  told the players that they should get their passports because of the possibility of overseas travel. This is not the first time a youth travelling overseas. TTFA should insist, seeing that these yutes not thinking straight.

So a player is in camp (the national pool) for international duty... and he needs to specifically be told that there's a chance that he'll have to board a plane and travel overseas... and therefore need a passport?
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
Actually, I would put some blame on the TTFA here. Not entirely though. I think as soon as they selected the guys for training, they should have  told the players that they should get their passports because of the possibility of overseas travel. This is not the first time a youth travelling overseas. TTFA should insist, seeing that these yutes not thinking straight.

So a player is in camp (the national pool) for international duty... and he needs to specifically be told that there's a chance that he'll have to board a plane and travel overseas... and therefore need a passport?
In my case in 74, seeing that I was not born in Trini I had to get my passport ready for possible travel to Toronto. The pool was 30. The final 18 was not selected as yet. There was the assumption that everybody had passports. Some had because they travelled outside Trini before. others did not, because they never travelled out of TT. It was a mixed bag.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2015, 11:03:30 PM
In my case in 74, seeing that I was not born in Trini I had to get my passport ready for possible travel to Toronto. The pool was 30. The final 18 was not selected as yet.

My thing is this Deeks... you in the NATIONAL pool.  True yuh might not make the final cut, but as long as there is a chance, you need to be making whatever preparations are necessary to fly out.  Chances are you can't get anywhere with trying to get a visa until selected, but in the least you need to square away that passport situation.  Yuh have to be ready.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2015, 11:12:06 PM
In my case in 74, seeing that I was not born in Trini I had to get my passport ready for possible travel to Toronto. The pool was 30. The final 18 was not selected as yet.

My thing is this Deeks... you in the NATIONAL pool.  True yuh might not make the final cut, but as long as there is a chance, you need to be making whatever preparations are necessary to fly out.  Chances are you can't get anywhere with trying to get a visa until selected, but in the least you need to square away that passport situation.  Yuh have to be ready.
Correct. They told us to get our passports ready while the pool was thirty. Actually I was on a bubble. I was told long after that I did not make the final cut. But Later, I was included.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Tiresais on June 23, 2015, 12:59:25 AM
Sigh, what a massive disappointment all round.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 23, 2015, 02:10:25 AM
TT U-23 footballers in visa woes.
T&T Newsday Reports.  


THE TRINIDAD and Tobago Under-23 football team are currently embroiled in a visa saga, resulting in a portion of the squad arriving in Puerto Rico for the start of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) First Round Qualifiers, which will take place this week.

The team, under the guidance of coach Zoran Vranes, will face Suriname on Wednesday, St Vincent/Grenadines on Friday and hosts Puerto Rico on Sunday, with the group winners advancing to the CFU Final Round in August.

In a media release issued last week by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), it was reported that team manager David Muhammad “explained that some players were without US visas and arrangements were being made for this to be obtained in order for them to travel for the (qualifiers).”

However, it emerged yesterday, in a story on the Wired 868 website, that only five members of the original squad had visas and were due to land in Puerto Rico yesterday — striker Rundell Winchester, goalkeeper Montell Joseph as well as midfielders Neveal Hackshaw, Nathaniel Garcia and Jelani Felix.

As a result, the team management had to recall, due to the fact that they possess US visas, a number of players who were omitted from the training squad — Adrian Welch, Xavier Rajpaul, Ricardo John, Leland Archer, Martieon Watson, Jabari Mitchell and Duane Muckette.

Vranes was also in Puerto Rico, along with technical staff members Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach/trainer), Michael Taylor (physio) and Esmond O’Brien (equipment manager).

All efforts to reach Muhammad and Sheldon Phillips, TTFA general secretary, proved futile up to press time last evening.

(Trinidad and Tobago Under-23 Team in Puerto Rico)

Goalkeepers: Montell Joseph (Forest United);

Defenders: Leland Archer (College of Charleston—USA), Martieon Watson (W Connection);

Midfielders: Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Jelani Felix (Defence Force), Duane Muckette (North East Stars), Jabari Mitchell (W Connection), Xavier Rajpaul (College of Charleston—USA);

Forwards: Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2—USA), Ricardo John, Adrian Welch (both St John’s University—USA).

Staff: Zoran Vranes (coach), David Muhammad (manager), Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach/trainer), Michael Taylor (physio), Esmond O’ Brien (equipment manager).

(Remaining squad members still in Trinidad)

Goalkeeper: Aaron Enill (San Juan Jabloteh);

Defenders: Alvin Jones (W Connection), Jesus Perez (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham (San Juan Jabloteh);

Midfielders: Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews (both W Connection), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers);

Forward: Dwight Quintero.

Staff: Nigel Neverson (goalkeeper coach).

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 23, 2015, 02:49:25 AM
T&T to play first match on Friday.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Suriname pulls out of olympic qualifiers.

Trinidad and Tobago’ s National Under 23 Men’s Team will have an additional two days to prepare before commencing it’s 2016 Olympic Qualifying campaign.

This comes as a result of Suriname’s withdrawal from the Caribbean Football Union qualifying phase which starts in Puerto Rico on Wednesday.

T&T, under head coach Zoran Vranes, was initially scheduled to face Suriname in the opening game on Wednesday. However, the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association received a formal correspondence from the Caribbean Football Union today advising of Suriname’s decision to pull out of the competition. The fixtures have been re-arranged and will now see T&T facing St Vincent/Grenadines on Friday June 26th, 2015 at 8pm.

T&T will then meet hosts Puerto Rico on June 28th at 8pm. The hosts and St Vincent/Grenadines will kick off the group on Wednesday. The group winner will advance to the CFU semi-final stage.

Vranes remains optimistic

The T&T team lost 1-0 to Nicaragua in a training match at the Ato Boldon Stadium on Friday.

Head Coach Zoran Vranes will be without a few of his players , at least for the early part of the stay in Puerto Rico, due to visa complications and expects the two matches to be challenging for the visitors. But he is remaining optimistic.

“Okay so we have a couple extra days and this will give us some more time to prepare with the players we had to call again to join the team in Puerto Rico,” Vranes told TTFA Media.

“It’s very difficult for us but we have one goal which is to qualify from the group. The players are very eager and I believe we can get the results to take us out of the group. But I expect the two games to be very difficult and we will have to play very strong and not give away anything if we are to come away with what is necessary for us to advance,” Vranes added.

T&T squad for Puerto Rico

Montell Joseph (UK-based), Leland Archer (College of Charleston, US), Martieon Watson (W Connection): Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Jelani Felix (Defence Force), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC), Duane Muckette (North East Stars), Xavier Rajpaul (College of Charleston—USA), Jabari Mitchell (W Connection), Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2, US), Ricardo John (St John’s University, US), Adrian Welch (St John’s University, US), Aaron Enill (Jabloteh), Jesus Perez (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham, Aikim Andrews (W Connection), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Jomal Williams (W Connection), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers), Dwight Quintero (Central FC).

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Football supporter on June 23, 2015, 04:53:35 AM
I also feel that parents, friends and advisers of these boys need to feel shamed. If your son has joined the camp, he could have an advantage if he has his travel documents in place, especially if there is a late injury or a guy who was selected can't get a visa. Aside from national pride, these guys had a chance of earning 20-30k over next 6 weeks on top of their club salaries. $1,200 would be a good investment. However, in my experience, players won't think for themselves and rely on the Team Manager and Coach to organise things. 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Football supporter on June 23, 2015, 04:57:14 AM
I wonder if any other teams will be forced to withdraw? As someone already said, this was not a wise venue for CFU to choose because of visa requirements. Once this venue was selected, USA should have provided some kind of special dispensation for teams attending so that the tournament proceeded smoothly. It's not about lack of planning, this is a global problem and nations shouldn't lose out due to poor venue selection and a US visa glitch.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 23, 2015, 05:02:16 AM
players won't think for themselves and rely on the  Team Manager and Coach to organize things

That is correct also. I can see that with the lower age groups,  but U23 should have a different mind set.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Football supporter on June 23, 2015, 05:03:34 AM
players won't think for themselves and rely on the  Team Manager and Coach to organize things

That is correct also. I can see that with the lower age groups,  but U23 should have a different mind set.

LOL, Deeks, I'm talking about seniors as well!!
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Deeks on June 23, 2015, 05:11:43 AM
players won't think for themselves and rely on the  Team Manager and Coach to organize things

That is correct also. I can see that with the lower age groups,  but U23 should have a different mind set.

LOL, Deeks, I'm talking about seniors as well!!

Yes, you right about the grownups!
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 23, 2015, 05:22:43 AM
Guys, there have been cases where Concacaf has messed up on several occasions. Either with last minute venue changes and changes in age requirements. I remember the youth team after our 74 team was impacted by a last  minute age requirement. They lowered the requirement by 1 year and that messed up the composition of a very good team.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: FF on June 23, 2015, 06:31:04 AM
We have a lack of personal responsibility in Trinidad and Tobago.
Everything must be handed to us and if some how something go wrong is always somebody else fault.

Look asylum just point out how the news girl report Lasana article pretty much word for word yesterday.
No shame as well.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 23, 2015, 06:50:47 AM
Spare a thought for Suriname. Fuh real!

There's been discussion regarding venue and visas, and one wonders how vigorously this topic is discussed within the CFU and CONCACAF, particularly with respect to its continual influence on outcomes. For junior tournaments, every effort should be made for all countries to have the best and broadest possible representation. This inures to the quality of the competition, and to the benefits that flow from that.

While this saga is progressing, the teams that are assigned to play in Haiti and the Dominican Republic (where Group One and Group Two are based for this competition) carry along with their prospects smoothly. From the inception, all teams are NOT placed in a position to field their best teams based on the policy of one country. This is not an indictment of the merits of US immigration policy. It is a statement of the playing conditions. What has the advocacy on this matter been? Quiet acceptance? Acquiescence? Indifference?

Building on the above ...

In the aftermath of the arrests in Switzerland, it has been informative that FIFA and constituent confederations have had the legs to continue their competition calendars without major issue. Yet, CONCACAF has cancelled (or is it a 'postponement' functioning as an effective cancellation in this peer year/age bracket) the U-15 tournament (a tournament that would have pitted this age bracket against England as an invited team), and there seemingly has been insufficient scrutiny regarding this decision by curious and invested journalists, not to mention pronouncements by the immediate football stakeholders affected.

In all manners we connive in limiting the prospects of young players. This is a state of play that is comprehensively unacceptable! Sentiment would be different had there been distinct voices in the wilderness clearly expressing an opposing viewpoint. But, there has not been. We have to reconfigure views of the U-15 age group as the least of us. Apparently, it's certainly not too late to invest in educating them (and their parents/guardians) on passport acquisition and on matters that would be deemed prejudicial to their acquisition of a visa. That by itself should not be an impediment to player development because, as things stand, we have innumerable concerns on that front already.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Sam on June 23, 2015, 08:16:31 AM
All is to take some blame.

The players, parents and the TTFA.

Because once a foreign player is selected, the first thing the TTFA ask for is a passport and so on.

The TTFA keeping running into this same problem all de time, by now they should know how to handle this, David Muhammad very slack and we keep getting embarrass because of this, what kinda manager is this.

The parents slack to and them players have to be fools to not know what they have and bring it to someone attention early, they know they have to fly or might be flying.

Vranes, have to be de biggest tuntun it have, he name 40 players and looked at none of the foreign players but name he squad and now he might have to call them up.

It good.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Sam on June 23, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
This is why I say Jeffrey Webb was not good.

Why is only CFU who have these problems?

These countries should get money to properly prepare they youth teams, unless they got it and spend it on something else.

Knowing the TTFA, I feel is that self they do.

Teams puling out, no visas etc.

And These tournament should be hosted in countries you dont need visas.

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Sando prince on June 23, 2015, 01:17:20 PM


Wha we go do? We like it so.. I refuse to believe these problems are cultural and not just a matter of indiscipline and unprofessionalism.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 23, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
I just heard CFU accepted Suriname back in the tournament and are planning our match for 10:30 pm tomorrow night.

Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: MEP on June 23, 2015, 06:53:26 PM
I think it's a management issue. From the time 23 playersof players or a pool are named the question has to be asked who has a passport and who needs help obtaining one. The need to be given a checklist as to what is needed. And it should be said that, You have on 12 pm on this day to submit your passport and other material. Cuts out the guesswork. Part of the responsibility of the coaching staff is to develop a sense of professionalism amongst the players. Players need to know and need to understand that the National Team can showcase their talent to Professional Clubs.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Tallman on June 23, 2015, 07:07:14 PM
I think it's a management issue. From the time 23 playersof players or a pool are named the question has to be asked who has a passport and who needs help obtaining one.

To me, once you are part of a "professional" club, or have hopes of representing a national team, your passport should be in order. Frankly, barring financial circumstances, it's a document that most people should have.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Bakes on June 23, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
To me, once you are part of a "professional" club, or have hopes of representing a national team, your passport should be in order. Frankly, barring financial circumstances, it's a document that most people should have.

Everybody should have it.  In fairness, $1,200 dollars is a lot of money for most people... in the case of footballers, I think the Ministry (National Security?) should waive or subsidize the fee for those who are engaged in national 'service.'
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 23, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
CFU makes Suriname u-turn; T&T U23s must play with 11 men
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)

More farce. The Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team’s 2015 Olympic qualifying campaign was thrown into disarray again this evening when Caribbean Football Union officials informed the “Soca Warriors” that Suriname have been re-instated into the competition.
And, just 24 hours after telling Trinidad and Tobago officials that their Caribbean round opener would be on Friday, the Warriors were told to prepare to face Suriname at 10.30 pm on Wednesday June 24 in Puerto Rico.
It means that the Warriors, who were unable to secure visas for their players in time, will have to face Suriname with just 11 players.
“They told us at about 3 pm this afternoon that Suriname are back in and we have to play them at 10.30 pm tomorrow,” National Under-23 manager David Muhammad told Wired868. “All of this was unofficial because they have to write a letter to inform us and they haven’t done so as yet. We don’t even know when Suriname is getting in or whether or not they have a full squad.
“But we just have to get our minds ready to play.”
What is certain is that Trinidad and Tobago’s remaining nine players will not get to Puerto Rico until 11 am on Thursday June 25. And, at present, head coach Zoran Vranes’ squad is comprised of one goalkeeper, two defenders, four central midfielders, one winger and three forwards.
Yesterday, Muhammad suggested told Wired868 that they could get by with the players they had.
“Any defensive midfielder can also play in defence,” said Muhammad. “We have Neveal Hackshaw and Jelani Felix who can play left back. So that is not too much of an issue.”
It now appears that the young men will have to prove their manager right.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/06/23/cfu-makes-suriname-u-turn-tt-u23s-must-play-with-11-men/
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 24, 2015, 01:26:38 AM
does st vincent have the same problems
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: AZZURRI on June 24, 2015, 11:51:25 AM
He has to shoulder some of the blame....probably for all we know doing what he can with limited resources and poor mgmt
but how u go say this!?
he cant be serious

“I am very proud of the staff,” he told Wired868, “that, in light of the circumstances, we were able to put together a strong team to compete by Wednesday"
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: AZZURRI on June 24, 2015, 11:52:30 AM
Is this Muhammad's full time job?

or he does this on the side?
This kinda of mgmt is piss-poor
and if he is part-time they need to fix that and make him full time or get rid of him if he is the one making these gaffs asap!
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: AZZURRI on June 24, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
What's the reasoning for Suriname being in limbo like this??

and if there was a last-minute turnaround
it seems like Suriname got the heads up in advance, cause they pushing for wednesday

lawd...like we need to take a couple years off of fball n fix our own matters first
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: AZZURRI on June 24, 2015, 11:58:35 AM
I also feel that parents, friends and advisers of these boys need to feel shamed. If your son has joined the camp, he could have an advantage if he has his travel documents in place, especially if there is a late injury or a guy who was selected can't get a visa. Aside from national pride, these guys had a chance of earning 20-30k over next 6 weeks on top of their club salaries. $1,200 would be a good investment. However, in my experience, players won't think for themselves and rely on the Team Manager and Coach to organise things. 

Well said
If the player is able to pay for this is a next question.
But judging from the $2000 boots i see some of them rocking

their priorities seem to be out of place

Not only do we need proper coaching of course but these youths need guidance big time!
too bad we dont have that kind of foresight
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 24, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
did the st vincent players all get their visa ?? if so whats our excuse
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 24, 2015, 05:52:48 PM
Game off: CFU circus continues as T&T U23’s opener now postponed
By Lasana Liburd (wired868.com)

Three days and as many decisions. God knows the trauma that Trinidad and Tobago’s National Under-23 football players have endured over the past week.
One thing now beyond dispute is that the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) has only made things worse.
Today, the “Soca Warriors” were advised that their 2016 Olympic qualifying fixture against Suriname will be postponed until Thursday June 25 in Puerto Rico while the group match days should play on Thursday, Saturday and Monday respectively.
Yesterday, the CFU ordered Trinidad and Tobago to face Suriname at 10.30 pm tonight while, on Monday, the game was declared as abandoned in favour of the Warriors with the Dutch-speaking nation ruled out of the competition.
And, Sunday and before, Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago were expected to face each other at 5.30 pm today.
Caribbean football officials have been admonished, en masse, for corruption ever since the Mohamed Bin Hammam bribery scandal in 2011. While the FBI has already issued warrants for two past and present regional administrators, including Trinidad’s Jack Warner.
But incompetence is just as glaring an issue in the Caribbean, which, by virtue of its number of member associations, has the most political clout in CONCACAF.
Granted the ineptitude is, arguably, not restricted to the governing body in this case.
The four participating nations, host Puerto Rico and guests, Suriname, St Vincent and the Grenadines and Trinidad and Tobago, knew the tournament location and fixtures since 21 April 2015. None of the travelling nations attempted to secure visas until nearly mid-June.
And, as it turned out, the United States Embassy began experiencing serious technical problems on May 26.
“The Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs is currently experiencing technical problems with our overseas passport and visa systems,” stated the US Embassy’s website. “This issue is not specific to any particular country, citizenship document, or visa category… Passport applications accepted overseas or after May 26, 2015 are affected by this delay. 
“If you applied for a U.S. passport overseas during this time frame and have travel plans within the next 10 business days, please consider requesting an emergency passport…”
Warriors team manager David Muhammad is not alone in suggesting the CFU erred in putting a Caribbean competition on one of the few islands in the region that requires visas for entry.
And Muhammad urged CFU officials to follow the example provided by Canada, who host the July Pan American Games and also insists on visas for travellers.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/06/24/game-off-cfu-circus-continues-as-tt-u23s-opener-now-postponed/
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 24, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Official word has now been given from CFU. Suriname are officially out of the tournament.

The fixtures are now as follows:-

Thursday 25th June

Puerto Rico vs St Vincent- 8:00PM
 
Saturday 27th June

St. Vincent v Trinidad & Tobago -8:00PM
 
Monday 29th June

Puerto Rico vs Trinidad & Tobago- 8:00PM

The T&T Team returns home on Tuesday, June 30th

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 24, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
Sad. Today, the comment out of Suriname was ... "SVB looking for solution for U-23 selection".
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Bakes on June 24, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
Game off: CFU circus continues as T&T U23’s opener now postponed
By Lasana Liburd (wired868.com)

Granted the ineptitude is, arguably, not restricted to the governing body in this case.
The four participating nations, host Puerto Rico and guests, Suriname, St Vincent and the Grenadines and Trinidad and Tobago, knew the tournament location and fixtures since 21 April 2015. None of the travelling nations attempted to secure visas until nearly mid-June.

Why is this being framed as "ineptitude"?  Clearly if the squad isn't settled one cannot apply for a visa.  The P-1 visa is very specific as to eligibility requirements, the player would have had to have been selected as part of the team in order to qualify for a visa... so maybe Coach Vranes was "inept" for not selecting the team sooner, I don't know, but with preparations being upended, it's understandable why it would have taken time to complete the selection process.  Painting this as "ineptitude" does a disservice to staff who are functioning under duress, and doing the most with the absolute least.  It benefits no one to continue to distort the narrative and tar the efforts of good people doing the best they can under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: Controversial on June 24, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
I also feel that parents, friends and advisers of these boys need to feel shamed. If your son has joined the camp, he could have an advantage if he has his travel documents in place, especially if there is a late injury or a guy who was selected can't get a visa. Aside from national pride, these guys had a chance of earning 20-30k over next 6 weeks on top of their club salaries. $1,200 would be a good investment. However, in my experience, players won't think for themselves and rely on the Team Manager and Coach to organise things. 

the parents and kids need to be educated on the basics... there needs to be a symposium to address these issues and how to avoid them..
Title: Re: Visa delay rocks T&T U23s; Warriors travel with 12-man squad for Olympic opener
Post by: asylumseeker on June 24, 2015, 10:03:22 PM
When did the $$$ to pay for the visa applications get to the TTFA or to the manager or responsible agent of the TTFA?
Title: Cuba down Guyana 2-0 in CFU Olympic Qualifier Group 2 opener
Post by: Tallman on June 25, 2015, 12:03:44 AM
Cuba down Guyana 2-0 in CFU Olympic Qualifier Group 2 opener
Guyana Chronicle


GUYANA went down 2-0 to regional powerhouse Cuba in their first game at the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Olympic Qualifiers, played yesterday at the Antigua Recreational Ground. The Guyanese conceded both goals in the first half with Cubans first finding the net in the seventh minute through Frank Manuel Lopez and in the 41st minute off the boot of Darian Perez.

Guyana started with Anthony Whyte between the uprights and a defensive line-up that featured Joshua Brown, Daniel Whyte, Les Charles Critchlow and William Europe.

In the midfield, head coach Jamaal Shabazz turned to English-based Kadell Daniel, Alpha United’s Daniel Wilson, GFC’s Kareem Knights and Trayon Bobb who plays in the Trinidad and Tobago Pro League with Caledonia AIA.

Up front, Bobb’s teammate at Caledonia Pernell Schultz and Den Amstel forward Dellon Lanferman were responsible for getting the goals.

With only one team making it out of the group, yesterday’s encounter was a must-win for the Golden Jaguars who will now face Antigua and Barbuda on Sunday.

The Guyanese will wrap up their campaign against Aruba on Sunday, June 28.
Title: U-23 Reggae Boyz off to winning start in Dominican Republic
Post by: Tallman on June 25, 2015, 12:05:50 AM
U-23 Reggae Boyz off to winning start in Dominican Republic
Jamaica Observer


Jamaica's Under-23 team are off to a positive start as they scored an emphatic 6-1 win over St Lucia in their opening Group Three encounter of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Olympic Qualifying tournament here at the Estadio Panamericano today.

Michael Seaton led the way with a brace in the 3rd and 38th minutes, with the other goals coming from Jamar Loza (48th), Andre Lewis (56th), Junior Flemmings (75th), and Romario Williams ( 77th). David Henry (29th) got St Lucia's consolation.

The Jamaicans are now in pole position to achieve their historic progression from the group stages. The second group game will be played on Friday with St Lucia tackling the host, with Jamaica closing their campaign against the host on Sunday.

Teams: Jamaica - Nico Campbell, Rickardo Oldham(Paul Wilson 63rd), Andre Morrison, Jamar Loza, Sean McFarlane, Kereen Manning, Michael Seaton, Andre Lewis (Junior Flemmings 63rd) Omar Holness, Damion Lowe, Jovani Simms (Romario Williams 38th)

Subs not used: Vishinul Harris‎, Kevaughn Frater, Richard Trench, Ramone Howell, Haddad Khouri

Booked: Seaton (28th), Holness (34th)

St Lucia - James Caster, Kelly Blondel(Otev Lawrence 69th), Shawn Evans, Andre Joseph, Emmery Edward, Antonius Myers, Jonathan Symphorien, Andrus Remy(Aramis Lorde 76th), Lester Joseph(Gregson President 72nd), Eden Charles, David Henry

Subs not used: Perry Simeon, Charlery Mathurin, Gerlanie Neptune, Leon Alexander

Booked: Blondel (2nd)

Referee: Sherswin Moore (GUY)

Assista‎nt Referees: Ainsley Rochard (Trinidad & Tobago), Venton Mars (GUY)

Fourth official: Adrian Skeete (BAR)

Match Commissary: Horace Lewis (JAM)

Sherdon Cowan
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 25, 2015, 02:01:26 AM
U-23s opener with St Vincent set for Saturday.
T&T Guardian Reports.


For the third time in less than 24 hours, the scheduled day for the T&T Olympic (Under-23) men’s football team kick off to their 2016 Olympic qualifying campaign has been re-scheduled.

Originally, the Zoran Vranes-coached Soca Warriors were carded to meet Suriname at the Estadio Juan Ramon Loubriel, San Juan, Puerto Rico, at 5.30 pm in their opening Group Four series. But after arriving in Puerto Rico with only 11 players on the weekend, the T&T squad faced the reality of going into the encounter short-handed as the remaining members of the squad awaited their US Visas from the US Embassy here in T&T.

However, the T&T Football Association was then notified on Monday night, by the Caribbean Football Union, that Suriname was also faced with US Visas issues and had decided to pull out of the competition which also involved the host Puerto Rico and St Vincent and The Grenadines.

But on Tuesday, less than a day after the CFU advised about Suriname’s withdrawn, T&T was re-scheduled to play its first match on Friday against St Vincent. However, Suriname has since said it was rejoining the tournament and T&T will open its campaign against them today. Team manager David Muhammad was informed by the CFU that Suriname will face off with T&T at 10.30 pm on Wednesday which meant T&T was again looking at the prospect of going into the match with eleven players as the remaining nine players are expected to arrive there until noon today (Thursday) while St Vincent & The Grenadines was scheduled to take on Puerto Rico in yesterday evening’s other match.

But speaking from Puerto Rico yesterday, Muhammad sounded much more positive about the whole situation and was quick to point out that of all three teams that had to travel overseas, T&T was the only team, or part their off, present and ready to play.

He added, “Interestingly when we arrived or just before we arrived we were given the impression that we (T&T) was the only team that had these kind of travel issues and challenges, but it just so turns out that T&T is the only travelling team here that has a team of players ready and prepared and available to play for the original scheduled beginning of the tournament. “But our competition will not be here (Suriname) nor will the other team in the group St Vincent and The Grenadines, which is travelling as well, so we are just awaiting official word that the group will kick off tomorrow (Thursday) instead.”

Official word has now been given from CFU. Suriname are officially out of the tournament and T&T will now play it’s first match against St Vincent and The Grenadines on Saturday from 8 pm. The Soca Warriors will then face Puerto Rico on Monday from 8 pm.

Yesterday, Alvin Jones, Jomal Williams, Kadeem Corbin all of whom have senior team experience left among a group of nine players and one official in Nigel Neverson to join up with the team but will not arrive until noon tomorrow.

The quartet along with Aaron Enil, Josiah Trimingham, Jesus Perez, Aikim Andrews, Shackiel Henry and Akeem Roach, who was drafted into the team for striker Nathaniel Garcia, who had to return home due to problems with his travel documents left on a flight yesterday bound for Puerto Rico after they were granted their US visas on Tuesday by the US Embassy.

Already in Puerto Rico, since on the weekend are Montell Joseph, Leland Archer, Martieon Watson, Neveal Hackshaw, Jelani Felix, Duane Muckette, Jabari Mitchell, Xavier Rajpaul, Rundell Winchester, Ricardo John and Adrian Welch along with coach Vranes, Muhammad (manager), Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach/trainer), Michael Taylor (physiotherapist) and Esmond O’ Brien (equipment manager). Group One to be contested at Stade Sylvio Cator, Haiti, involves the host country, Cayman Islands, St Kitts/Nevis and Barbados; Group Two which kicked off at the Antigua Recreation Ground, St John’s Antigua, features Cuba, Guyana, Aruba and the host while Group Three which is being staged at the Estadio Felix Sanchez, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic sees the host up against St Lucia and Jamaica in the lone three-team group.

Among the other players named in the original squad by Vranes last week, who had to withdraw due to injury or visa issues were Javon Sample, Shannon Gomez, Dwight Quintero and Neil Benjamin Jr Reached for comment, Peter Rampersad and administrative official and assistant manager to the men’s senior team said the remaining nine players and technical staff member Nigel Neverson will leave later today (yesterday).

Rampersad added, “In fact he (Neverson) is expected at the T&T Football Association’s office within the hour to collect some documents and he will meet up with the nine players who are still in T&T at the airport for their 5.30 pm flight aboard Copa Airlines.

“The flight should get into Panama City around 8 pm and the group will overnight there before heading to Puerto Rico early tomorrow (today) and they should get there by noon for the latest,” ended Rampersad. The T&TFF official also praised the efforts of the officials at the US Embassy whom he said were very accommodating and helpful in the players getting their travelling Visas for Puerto Rico.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on June 27, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
Game still on this evening?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:23:22 PM
SVG 1..TnT o ( 17mins)..easy goal..first SVG attack
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:25:01 PM
SVG 2..TnT 0 ( 19min)
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
this line up i could make out so far...Rundell and Shak Henry up front...Corbin and Aikim wide..Jomal and hackshaw in center...Alvin Jones and Perez full backs...Trimmingham is one center back...look like Sample in goal
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: AZZURRI on June 27, 2015, 06:27:43 PM
hit we a stream
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:29:28 PM
http://fedefutbolpr.cleeng.com/live-st-vincent-vs-trinidad-tobago-cfu-men-s-olympic-qualifiers/E183234790_PR

had to pay 5US for this...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
we are down 2 nil
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:37:16 PM
Henry off for Ricardo John ( 32nd min)
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:43:52 PM
3 nil
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:44:20 PM
SVG 3..TnT 0..38min... 3 counter attacks..3 goals...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
4 nil
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:48:51 PM
f this  :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: heads have to roll
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:49:21 PM
4-0 42nd min...long punt up..nobody deal with it...goal

alyuh have to see this to believe it
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
half time...bad..bad..bad..bad
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:52:14 PM
why did we even show up
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 27, 2015, 06:54:45 PM
4-0 42nd min...long punt up..nobody deal with it...goal

alyuh have to see this to believe it

 :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 06:57:05 PM
tim kee and others wuk safe  ...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 27, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
f this  :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: heads have to roll

Who yuh have in mind?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: PATRIOT on June 27, 2015, 07:00:44 PM
I am watching it too...we being burn on the counter time and time again...the #10 for SVG is trouble have speed and could rel dribble...and we NOT marking
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 07:01:19 PM
f this  :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: heads have to roll

Who yuh have in mind?

that is the thing these guys wuk safe no matter what the result
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 27, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
Respect to the players for responding to national duty under the circumstances, buh admin issues perpetrating a fraud on the game.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Muckette cant make this team ??
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:15:55 PM
is not Sample in goal..as he not there..sorry
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 27, 2015, 07:19:12 PM
Respect to the players for responding to national duty under the circumstances, buh admin issues perpetrating a fraud on the game.

Admin issues or funding issues?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Kadeem Corbin is a football player...hope he get some mins at the Gold Cup

Duane Mukette is a football player...these 2 players got a good future..if they get a break...and stay focused
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 07:28:55 PM
4-1
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:29:24 PM
4-1..Roach..back post header
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 07:34:53 PM
how come Duane Mukette did not start???
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 27, 2015, 07:35:52 PM
Respect to the players for responding to national duty under the circumstances, buh admin issues perpetrating a fraud on the game.

Admin issues or funding issues?

The bottom line is that funding is an admin issue ... regardless of who sticking. Between the MoS and the TTFA, we are essentially dealing with interlocked governance.

Ppl sticking and others gehhin stick up because the game is being hijacked due to nonsense.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:36:19 PM
just missed a couple decent chances
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:39:23 PM
4-2 72nd min..roach
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: soccerman on June 27, 2015, 07:39:43 PM
T&T  :cursing:
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:43:19 PM
man...put Rundell wide and bring Corbin inside please
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 07:48:57 PM
5-2
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:49:08 PM
5-2...85min
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
Olympic dream over
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 07:51:52 PM
5-3
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:52:27 PM
5-3  ..John
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on June 27, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
damn
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 27, 2015, 07:59:55 PM
done...5-3 SVG...

did the staff watch the first match with SVG/PR ??.. SVG sit back and counter..with some pace up front...we get 4 goals to then make adjustments...second half is Tnt 3 - SVG 1...
poor...yes i know the trials with the team...yes i know...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 27, 2015, 08:09:55 PM
i feel it for them guys
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: frico on June 28, 2015, 05:11:12 AM
It might be an idea for TT to pull out of all international football for at least 3 years.We need to put everything right,from grassroots to the top,whatever that may be.Seems to me,everything is wrong.Our senior men can't even score a goal against Jordan,yes gentlemen...Jordan, now,our under23 starboys are humiliated by SVG,another powerhouse in Caribbean football.

CAN WE STOP FOOLING OURSELVES
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 28, 2015, 06:25:10 AM
When did the $$$ to pay for the visa applications get to the TTFA or to the manager or responsible agent of the TTFA?

Your federation is a Incompetent! It should never be the players sole responsibility to secure travel visas/passports etc for tournaments, the federation should facilitate this through the proper channels. Normally, as part of accepting an invitation to represent his country, the federation requires that players submit identification, which in all cases would be a "valid" passport...one that does not expire any time in the next 6 months...if the player is unable to show such, the federation immediately starts the process of acquiring one.  There is always an expedited process to get a passport, some places even have overnight services for additional fees.

How is it that a country such as Jamaica, with all its travel restrictions to North America and Europe seems to manage these situations in a professional manner?

This over-reliance on Government funding for day to day running of a sporting organization seems weird.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 28, 2015, 06:33:46 AM
Who knows the line-up?

(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11071070_1183066575052763_7596959036149597557_n.jpg?oh=b7ebabb9f407231b8473d4e4b378a373&oe=55EA74FA)

1.Aaron Enil; 16.Alvin Jones, Jesus Perez, Josiah Trimmingham, Aikim Andrews, 10.Kadeem Corbin, 11.Jomal Williams, 8.Neveal Hackshaw, 19.Rundell Winchester, Shaquille Henry (Ricardo John 32nd)??
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: frico on June 28, 2015, 06:37:38 AM
reggae fan The only competent Trinidadians are those living abroad for at least 30 years.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 28, 2015, 06:37:55 AM
It might be an idea for TT to pull out of all international football for at least 3 years.We need to put everything right,from grassroots to the top,whatever that may be.Seems to me,everything is wrong.Our senior men can't even score a goal against Jordan,yes gentlemen...Jordan, now,our under23 starboys are humiliated by SVG,another powerhouse in Caribbean football.

CAN WE STOP FOOLING OURSELVES

Reach for the oxygen mask.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 28, 2015, 06:45:21 AM
Not that anyone cares because we sour ... but today's clashes between Antigua and Barbuda and Cuba; Dominican Republic v Jamaica; and, Haiti and St. Kitts-Nevis will determine which squads move on. Read the names of these teams closely and call for a national gut check. 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 28, 2015, 06:52:30 AM
When did the $$$ to pay for the visa applications get to the TTFA or to the manager or responsible agent of the TTFA?

Your federation is a Incompetent! It should never be the players sole responsibility to secure travel visas/passports etc for tournaments, the federation should facilitate this through the proper channels. Normally, as part of accepting an invitation to represent his country, the federation requires that players submit identification, which in all cases would be a "valid" passport...one that does not expire any time in the next 6 months...if the player is unable to show such, the federation immediately starts the process of acquiring one.  There is always an expedited process to get a passport, some places even have overnight services for additional fees.

How is it that a country such as Jamaica, with all its travel restrictions to North America and Europe seems to manage these situations in a professional manner?

This over-reliance on Government funding for day to day running of a sporting organization seems weird.

Not only this, but the people the TTFA hires also add to their incompetence.

What I do not understand is, the first thing that should be done is to make sure the players called are eligible to fly and if not, make sure steps are taken to have such. Because the TTFA knew about this tournament months before.

But now the TTFA operate in reverse, they spend the money to train the players and then when its time to travel they are left back peddling only to find out they wasted thousands of dollars on a player that is not eligible.

These are such simple things that we continue to get wrong all of the time.

Since the old TTFF who had some of the same people working for them and with the same problem (Muhammad, Vranes, Ross, Wallace, Cooper etc etc) not picking on anyone in particular, but how can we expect different with the same?

Find, the FA has no money, but why are we galavanting ourselves naming all these 40 provisional players making them feel they have a chance to play for T&T and not even calling them for a trial (A TRIAL) and then when things get bad, they are the ones we are looking for.

For example, I don't know if Vranes take it up on his own to not call the foreign players because he did not get the funds to do so?? but if he was given the chance and did not call them because he felt he could fly pass SVG and Puerto Rico, then I am totally disappointed in him for not at least trailing a few of them.

We cannot underestimate anyone because other countries are using what they have, we are still stuck in a big boy attitude with nothing to show for it.

Imagine, this Olympic team just won the Under 20 CARIBBEAN TITLE last year.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 28, 2015, 07:12:21 AM
Since the old TTFF who had some of the same people working for them and with the same problem

The irony about this, is that  with the old TTFF which was controlled by the special advisor. A lot of these tournaments were hosted in TT. So they did not have to worry about passport issues. And Jack would not allow that tournament to be held in PR if there were going to be passport issue. What f--kin irony. The TTFA and MoS making Jack a paragon of virtue. What a load bull.  But this is sad. Not Matter what, the finger points to the current TTFA and the MoS. I feel for these guys. Imagine you going into an international game with all these NEGATIVES with a bare 13. That is for Sunday morning football, not international. football.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 28, 2015, 07:26:15 AM
It might be an idea for TT to pull out of all international football for at least 3 years.

I don't think that is fair for players to suffer for issues beyond their control. Funding intertwined with  politics is killing our football. 3years will be setting back our football. Mos and TTFA, thanks very much!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 28, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
When did the $$$ to pay for the visa applications get to the TTFA or to the manager or responsible agent of the TTFA?

Your federation is a Incompetent! It should never be the players sole responsibility to secure travel visas/passports etc for tournaments, the federation should facilitate this through the proper channels. Normally, as part of accepting an invitation to represent his country, the federation requires that players submit identification, which in all cases would be a "valid" passport...one that does not expire any time in the next 6 months...if the player is unable to show such, the federation immediately starts the process of acquiring one.  There is always an expedited process to get a passport, some places even have overnight services for additional fees.

How is it that a country such as Jamaica, with all its travel restrictions to North America and Europe seems to manage these situations in a professional manner?

This over-reliance on Government funding for day to day running of a sporting organization seems weird.

Not only this, but the people the TTFA hires also add to their incompetence.

What I do not understand is, the first thing that should be done is to make sure the players called are eligible to fly and if not, make sure steps are taken to have such. Because the TTFA knew about this tournament months before.

But now the TTFA operate in reverse, they spend the money to train the players and then when its time to travel they are left back peddling only to find out they wasted thousands of dollars on a player that is not eligible.

These are such simple things that we continue to get wrong all of the time.

Since the old TTFF who had some of the same people working for them and with the same problem (Muhammad, Vranes, Ross, Wallace, Cooper etc etc) not picking on anyone in particular, but how can we expect different with the same?

Find, the FA has no money, but why are we galavanting ourselves naming all these 40 provisional players making them feel they have a chance to play for T&T and not even calling them for a trial (A TRIAL) and then when things get bad, they are the ones we are looking for.

For example, I don't know if Vranes take it up on his own to not call the foreign players because he did not get the funds to do so?? but if he was given the chance and did not call them because he felt he could fly pass SVG and Puerto Rico, then I am totally disappointed in him for not at least trailing a few of them.

We cannot underestimate anyone because other countries are using what they have, we are still stuck in a big boy attitude with nothing to show for it.

Imagine, this Olympic team just won the Under 20 CARIBBEAN TITLE last year.



flex dem people work for free........ we cannot expect a professional job from them   ;D we demanding  to much 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: King Deese on June 28, 2015, 08:05:34 AM
This is just another useful exercise. Just imagine, the man responsible for this fiasco wants another 4 years. How and why is the TTFA paying Tim Tee? Vranes not able to bring out the best in what he has to work with doesn't surprise me. SVG boy? WOW.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 28, 2015, 10:06:05 AM
A lot of events have gone awry in T&T football, but these particular events merit consequences with respect to the decision-makers. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 28, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
This is just another useful exercise. Just imagine, the man responsible for this fiasco wants another 4 years. How and why is the TTFA paying Tim Tee? Vranes not able to bring out the best in what he has to work with doesn't surprise me. SVG boy? WOW.

Not that it matters in this context (itself meaningless)... but Tim Kee isn't paid by the TTFA, the position isn't compensated.  But of course, he should give up his day job/s.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: vb on June 28, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
This is just another useful exercise. Just imagine, the man responsible for this fiasco wants another 4 years. How and why is the TTFA paying Tim Tee? Vranes not able to bring out the best in what he has to work with doesn't surprise me. SVG boy? WOW.

Not that it matters in this context (itself meaningless)... but Tim Kee isn't paid by the TTFA, the position isn't compensated.  But of course, he should give up his day job/s.

How do you know the Pres.isn't paid. Is it just him or the entire Executive.

Please expad.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 28, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
How do you know the Pres.isn't paid. Is it just him or the entire Executive.

Please expad.

Because I do... it's not even secret information.  Heck, TTFA President isn't even a full-time position.  I don't believe ExCo members are paid either, but that I'm less sure of.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Controversial on June 28, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
How do you know the Pres.isn't paid. Is it just him or the entire Executive.

Please expad.

Because I do... it's not even secret information.  Heck, TTFA President isn't even a full-time position.  I don't believe ExCo members are paid either, but that I'm less sure of.

There is no mention of it in the old constitution but there is also no mention of them not being able to receive money either...  :devil:
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Controversial on June 28, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
When did the $$$ to pay for the visa applications get to the TTFA or to the manager or responsible agent of the TTFA?

Your federation is a Incompetent! It should never be the players sole responsibility to secure travel visas/passports etc for tournaments, the federation should facilitate this through the proper channels. Normally, as part of accepting an invitation to represent his country, the federation requires that players submit identification, which in all cases would be a "valid" passport...one that does not expire any time in the next 6 months...if the player is unable to show such, the federation immediately starts the process of acquiring one.  There is always an expedited process to get a passport, some places even have overnight services for additional fees.

How is it that a country such as Jamaica, with all its travel restrictions to North America and Europe seems to manage these situations in a professional manner?

This over-reliance on Government funding for day to day running of a sporting organization seems weird.

Not only this, but the people the TTFA hires also add to their incompetence.

What I do not understand is, the first thing that should be done is to make sure the players called are eligible to fly and if not, make sure steps are taken to have such. Because the TTFA knew about this tournament months before.

But now the TTFA operate in reverse, they spend the money to train the players and then when its time to travel they are left back peddling only to find out they wasted thousands of dollars on a player that is not eligible.

These are such simple things that we continue to get wrong all of the time.

Since the old TTFF who had some of the same people working for them and with the same problem (Muhammad, Vranes, Ross, Wallace, Cooper etc etc) not picking on anyone in particular, but how can we expect different with the same?

Find, the FA has no money, but why are we galavanting ourselves naming all these 40 provisional players making them feel they have a chance to play for T&T and not even calling them for a trial (A TRIAL) and then when things get bad, they are the ones we are looking for.

For example, I don't know if Vranes take it up on his own to not call the foreign players because he did not get the funds to do so?? but if he was given the chance and did not call them because he felt he could fly pass SVG and Puerto Rico, then I am totally disappointed in him for not at least trailing a few of them.

We cannot underestimate anyone because other countries are using what they have, we are still stuck in a big boy attitude with nothing to show for it.

Imagine, this Olympic team just won the Under 20 CARIBBEAN TITLE last year.



RF has some valid points, I didn't realize how backward tim kee and the fed really is and how they don't even have guidelines or regulations stipulated within the fed to govern day to day business.. wow :o

really sad to hear the level of mismanagement and incompetence together with just lack of professionalism..

with all the money the nation have and the professed intellectuals and none of them can organize our football properly because they too corrupt and really don't give a damn about our football but themselves...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 28, 2015, 01:25:11 PM
Another major travesty on the books.  The fact that Tim Kee allowed such a monumental cock-up means he is just not cut out for the job. As well Mohammed.  Somebody needs to challenge Tim Kee for the position. 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Controversial on June 28, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Another major travesty on the books.  The fact that Tim Kee allowed such a monumental cock-up means he is just not cut out for the job. As well Mohammed.  Somebody needs to challenge Tim Kee for the position. 

kelvin and crew most likely will challenge but even they are not the right fit... too much history there, there needs to be no history.. no leadership that will bridge business and football and manage both sides..

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: lucky4life on June 28, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Jamaica beat Dominican Repu by 4 goals, Dominican Repu did not score any goal
Title: One loss in Olympic qualifying shows how T&T'S soccer future is likely screwed
Post by: Tallman on June 28, 2015, 09:28:19 PM
One loss in Olympic qualifying shows how Trinidad and Tobago’s soccer future is likely screwed
By Ryan Rosenblatt (fusion.net)


After just one match, Trinidad and Tobago knows it is not going to the Olympics. One match! The Soca Warriors didn’t even get close enough to really dream of a trip to Rio, but the more worrying part is what this qualification means for their future.

The Trinidad and Tobago U-23’s were bounced from contention from a spot at the Olympics because of a 5-3 loss. To Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. In its opening match. When it would’ve had to win the group stage of Caribbean qualifying.

The team then would’ve had to move on to win a semifinal, which would’ve taken it to the CONCACAF U-23 Championship. Then Trinidad and Tobago would’ve had to finish in the top three in order to qualify for the Olympics. With one smackdown from St. Vincent, Trinidad and Tobago finished about four steps short of qualification.

Unfortunately for Trinidad and Tobago, this was coming. The U-20 team from three years ago got knocked out in the Caribbean preliminary round and doesn’t appear to have improved much since. Then there’s the little problem of the coach not knowing when qualifying started:

“If I knew (earlier) our qualifiers started in June, I would not have accepted,” manager Zoran Vranes told Wired868 in April, after being unveiled as coach. “I had information that it was in August. I have a month to prepare the team but I will not say that we have no chance…”

Vranes also wasn’t given the chance to properly prepare his team. He tried to schedule five friendlies against international opposition, but was told that none of them could be played because of financial reasons, although he did finally get one against Nicaragua.

Oh, and Vranes also didn’t get to call in the players he wanted. That’s because 15 of the 20 players he originally put on his qualifying roster did not get visas. When the team showed up in Puerto Rico for the opening qualifying match, it was with just 12 players.

So let’s go through the checklist for a successful team:

– Knowing when qualifying starts
– Having a manager who wants to be there
– Prepare with friendlies
– Call in your best players
– Get visas so those players can show up

Trinidad and Tobago struck out on every single one of those.

There once was a time when Trinidad and Tobago was one of the better teams in CONCACAF. And it’ll have a chance to make a run in the Gold Cup and to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. But the team probably won’t be anywhere near the top after long. Teams unable to figure out the basics are teams that get thrashed by Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and find their dreams dashed after just one game.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on June 29, 2015, 04:03:02 PM
Haiti, Cuba and Jamaica are into the finals of CFU Men’s Olympic Qualifiers
CFUFootball.org


Haiti Cuba and Jamaica have topped Groups 1, 2 and 3 respectively with maximum nine points in the preliminary stages of the 2015 Caribbean Zone Group stage of the Men’s Olympic Qualifiers which stated on June 24.

The top team from Group 4 will be decided today, Monday, June 29, when Puerto Rico encounters Trinidad & Tobago at 8:00pm at the Juan Ramon Loubriel Stadium in Puerto Rico.

The winner of each group (a total of 4 teams) from the current group stage, will qualify for the final round which is scheduled for August 12 -17. The host of the final will be selected from the four teams at the end of the group stage on June 29th. The top two teams from the final round will qualify for the CONCACAF Olympic Championship.

Haiti completed the task in Group 1on Sunday, June 28, by defeating St Kitts and Nevis 3-1 at the Stade Sylvio Cator in Haiti. In the earlier encounter Cayman Islands fell 1 - 0 to Barbados.

Cuba defeated Antigua and Barbuda 3-2 in a thrilling victory in Group 2 played at the Antigua Recreation Ground in Antigua. Guyana won their first game against Aruba 5-0 in the other game played at this same venue.

Jamaica was next taking Group 3 with a convincing 4-0 triumph over Dominican Republic at the Estado Felix Sanchez.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 29, 2015, 07:09:16 PM
we up 1 nil
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 29, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
final score plz ??..starting line up...scorers ??..report ??
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 29, 2015, 08:06:10 PM
we beat them 5 nil
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: PATRIOT on June 29, 2015, 08:14:35 PM
Team played well, dominating for most portions of the game that I managed to see...the stream was poor so hard to give a proper report but I DO know Winchester scored our 1st goal and #18 scored a brace...other goals came from #12 and #17, sorry I don't know who's no is which player and jerseys didn't carry names, so best I could do
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 29, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
It is a pity they did not have that form in the first game. Oh well ...... no need beating a dead horse! Hope you guys do better in the PanAm games.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 30, 2015, 02:26:08 AM
Trinidad and Tobago 5 (Ricardo John 2, Rundell Winchester, Akeem Roach, Aikim Andrews) vs Puerto Rico 0

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Trini _2022 on June 30, 2015, 08:00:06 AM
oh yes and john did not make the final squad
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: dreamer on June 30, 2015, 08:01:23 AM
This will help some players like Winchester get form for the Gold Cup. Some good news amongst the bad news vibes of the T&T football.
In life you have to see the positives in every predicament that you find yourself in. That's how successful people get ahead.
Title: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 30, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Muhammad fingered for Warriors cock-ups; U23s rush to replace Corbin
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team manager David Muhammad has arguably run out of hiding space for a series of administrative cock-ups that might have cost his players their 2016 Olympic Games dreams and now threaten their 2015 Pan American Games aspirations as well.

The final accreditation deadline for the Toronto 2015 Pan Am tournament, according to the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC), is Tuesday June 30 and the Under-23s are a player short, after Muhammad failed to replace St Ann’s Rangers attacker Kadeem Corbin on their 18-man squad list.

National Senior Team coach Stephen Hart selected the 19-year-old Corbin to represent his country at the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup and the clash of dates means that, even if the “Soca Warriors” are eliminated early, Under-23 coach Zoran Vranes would have just 17 available players for as much as two-thirds of their competition.

The senior Warriors play Guatemala, Cuba and Mexico in the United States on July 9, 12 and 15 respectively. And the National Under-23 Team face Uruguay, Paraguay and Mexico in Toronto on July 13, July 17 and July 21.

Yesterday, Wired868 asked Muhammad, via What’s App, about Corbin’s selection for the Pan Am Games.

“Corbin will miss one or two Pan Am Games because of the Gold Cup,” stated Wired868, on June 29. “Is it worth it to take him to Pan Am?”

Muhammad responded: “He’s not going to the Pan Am Games.”

The manager did not respond to follow up questions as to whether the TTOC erred by placing Corbin on the list and, if the replacement was made, which player would take his place.

Wired868 sought clarification from the TTOC.

Was Corbin replaced? Did the TTOC send the wrong football squad list to the media?

“The TTOC can only have been guided by, in this case, the TTFA,” TTOC president Brian Lewis told Wired868. “There was no way the TTOC would have selected a player for the TTFA. The important question for the TTFA to answer is if they sent a revised list to the TTOC that omitted Kadeem Corbin.”

TTOC marketing assistant Chanelle Young confirmed that the Olympic Committee sent the most recent football roster to the media. However, Young revealed that the TTFA did ask for Corbin to be replaced from its Pan American Games squad.

Crucially, though, the TTFA’s request came hours after Muhammad claimed that Corbin was not on their Pan Am squad.

“Today, I got an email from football, dated June 30 and 10.15 am, where he stated that he is going to replace Kadeem Corbin,” Young told Wired868. “We only got this information this morning that Kadeem Corbin will no longer be on the team.”

Just as crucially, though, Muhammad did not name a replacement for Corbin, which means he did not fix the initial problem. And he has only a few hours to do so.

“He hasn’t notified us about who he would replace (Corbin) with as well,” said Young. “Right now, we have to meet a deadline for accreditation… He has to send it today (because) today is the deadline that (the) Toronto (LOC) gave us.

“Some of the accreditation requests (were not processed) so about five footballers need visas. If they person they want to replace him with (was not on their initial shortlist), he wouldn’t be able to go at all.”

Muhammad could not be reached for comment as the Under-23 Team left Puerto Rico this morning. They will arrive in Trinidad in three batches at roughly 2 pm, 4.30 pm and 11.30 pm.

The manager is expected to land in the first group, just as he was first to arrive in Puerto Rico while more than half his young team remained in Port of Spain trying to acquire visas.

The Warriors’ Olympic football dreams were blighted by visa issues, as Vranes was forced to scrap his initial 20-man squad and carry whichever players he could find who had proper travel documents.

Muhammad got 12 players to Puerto Rico in time for their first scheduled match against Suriname on June 24, which was later abandoned. However, two of those players, Keane McIvor and Adrian Welch, were subsequently deemed ineligible to play by Caribbean Football Union (CFU) officials.

The tournament rules mandated that each team must have three goalkeepers and 17 outfield players on its roster but Under-23 goalkeeper Javon Sample was denied a visa. Trinidad and Tobago travelled to Puerto Rico with 19 outfield players and two goalkeepers and, as the CFU stuck to the rules, McIvor and Welch, became inactive passengers.

Muhammad blamed the Under-23s chaotic build up to their Olympic qualifiers on a technical glitch at the United States Embassy.

“We had applied within the regular timeframes,” Muhammad told Wired868.

The US Embassy conceded that it experienced “technical problems” since May 26, which were only righted on June 26.

However, a release from the US Embassy appeared to contradict Muhammad’s stance that he applied in a timely fashion.

The team manager said an application was made for visas just before the Under-23 players entered camp on Tuesday June 16. They were meant to travel to Puerto Rico on Sunday June 21 while Friday June 19 was Labour Day.

One of the players, Central FC forward Dwight Quintero, did not even get a passport until Saturday June 20.

“Visa applicants should note most visas are delivered within 5-10 days of approval,” stated the US Embassy. “However, applicants with concrete departure dates are advised to apply as early as possible as we cannot guarantee return of the passport within 10 (working) days.”

In fact, despite the Embassy’s technical issues, the Under-23 players received visa appoints within four working days of their request. And they got visas 24 hours later.

Even then, they got to Puerto Rico on Thursday June 25 for a tournament that was due to start on Wednesday June 24.

At the time, Muhammad congratulated himself and his staff for their work, even though, contrary to his suggestion, the Warriors appeared to have just 10 available players in Puerto Rico at the time.

“I am very proud of the staff,” he told Wired868 on Monday June 22, “that, in light of the circumstances, we were able to put together a strong team to compete by Wednesday.

“That goes to show the depth of our squad.”

The Warriors promptly lost their opening game 5-3 to St Vincent and the Grenadines on Saturday June 27 and were eliminated within 90 minutes of their campaign.

Muhammad is not new to the role of national team manager or controversy, after taking up his first post in 2007 under then coach Francisco Maturana before also serving under Russell Latapy.

TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee restored Muhammad within three months of taking over the reins of local football in late 2012.

“I think (Muhammad) was unceremoniously replaced,” Tim Kee told Wired868 then, “and anyone who was replaced for no reason, we will put that right.”

At the time, Muhammad, who is a motivational speaker and head of the Louis Farrakhan-inspired “Black Agenda Project”, promised to be an inspiring choice for the football body.

“If reappointed, I will do my best to manage, organise, communicate with, network, inform and motivate the players and staff to continue to strive for excellence,” said Muhammad, “and also seek to reintroduce some earlier standards.

“My knowledge and experience in the field of Human Resource Management shall also once again be applied to my tasks.”

At present, the TTOC just wants Muhammad to give them the name of the Under-23 squad’s 18th player. Otherwise, Vranes and his troops might again go into battle short-handed.

Kadeem Corbin timeline

June 5: Corbin makes his senior international debut against Curaçao and was credited by national coaches and teammates for making a strong case towards Gold Cup selection.

June 9: Corbin’s name is submitted to CONCACAF as part of a 34-man shortlist for the Gold Cup.

June 20: Corbin is selected on the Gold Cup team.

June 23: The TTFA reveals its Gold Cup team, with Corbin, to the media.

June 29: TTOC reveals the TTFA’s Pan American Games squads, which includes Corbin. Wired868 questions Muhammad on Corbin’s selection and the manager denies that the player is on their squad.

June 30: Muhammad asks for Corbin to be removed from the Pan Am squad. It does not name a replacement, although it is deadline day.

T&T’s Under-23 Pan Am squad (as revealed by the TTOC on June 29): Jovan Sample, Montell Joseph, Shannon Gomez, Alvin Jones, Dario Holmes, Maurice Ford, Jesus Perez, Tristan Hodge, Jelani Felix, Neveal Hackshaw, Xavier Rajpaul, Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews, Nathaniel Garcia, Shackiel Henry, Dwight Quintero, Neil Benjamin.

Withdrawn: Kadeem Corbin

Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Flex on June 30, 2015, 03:05:47 PM
What a real mess.

Not only Corbin should have been replaced, but isn't Neil Benjamin injured?

They dropped two strikers for what ever reason (Akeem Roach and Ricardo John).

Three more is out; Corbin and Winchester (with senior team) and Benjamin (injured?).

What a shame.

No Olympic and now Pan-Am dream looks slim.

This Muhammad guy was fired and they reinstate him without proper cause and paying the price now.

Can't forget the incident with Jlloyd Samuel.

Then again, you get what you pay for.

Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Storeboy on June 30, 2015, 04:08:31 PM
Until we learn that officials must perform, held accountable, and take responsibility for their actions, nothing will change in Trinidad and Tobago. Same repetitions of inefficiency, stupidity, and incompetence that occurs over and over and over again.
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Jumbie on June 30, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Blame Sancho!


Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: kounty on June 30, 2015, 04:25:32 PM
Lasana for manager!!! does be checkin & double-checkin good.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: vb on June 30, 2015, 04:35:11 PM
How do you know the Pres.isn't paid. Is it just him or the entire Executive.

Please expad.

Because I do... it's not even secret information.  Heck, TTFA President isn't even a full-time position.  I don't believe ExCo members are paid either, but that I'm less sure of.

Well if is not secret information, tell u where you get it from nah_
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: socalion on June 30, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
Here we go again !! wtf    Look nah David Muhammad  plain and simple yuh messing up ..
plz step aside  ....how many more  chances yuh need to f.....up  ?   what ah damn shame..... can't this man be fired ??? i mean really .... >:(
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Bakes on June 30, 2015, 05:29:39 PM
Unnaceptable, if true.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 30, 2015, 06:19:15 PM
U-23s get moral boosting win over Puerto Rico.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Head Coach Zoran Vranes and his players had something to finally smile about as they pulled off a moral boosting 5-0 victory over hosts Puerto Rico in their final Caribbean Football Union Olympic Qualifier at the Juan Ramon Louriel Stadium, Bayamon on Monday night.

Already out of the Olympic race after their 5-3 loss to St Vincent/Grenadines on the weekend, Vranes’ team will now look ahead to the Pan American Games in Toronto and the result would leave them with some form of relief.

T&T got off to a quick start and opened the scoring in the 6th minute when Portland Timbers 2 forward Rundell Winchester finished well to the dismay of the home fans who had come out in hope of cheering their side to a win.

The scoreline stood at half time but T&T upped the tempo after the break with further goals from Aikim Andrews (62nd), Akeem Roach, his third in two games, in the 76th and a double from Ricardo John in the 82nd and 88th minutes.

T&T finished the group in second spot with three points behind group winners St Vincent/Grenadines (4 points). The Vincentians advances to the semi-final phase.

Vranes said he was pleased to his side bounce back.

“I am happy to see the boys come back and play this way. It has been a long few weeks for them, you know, preparing for the tournament and then coming here to get knocked out after one loss,” Vranes said.

“But I know their capabilities and they were able to put the loss behind them and focus on this game. I think the early start helped us and we never looked back.

“Now we have a few days to prepare for the Pan American Games. The players are anxious because they all would like to play against these quality teams. They want to do well for the country and I think this will be a great opportunity for them to go there and do something good and get the experience for the future.”

T&T faces Uruguay on July 13th, Paraguay on July 17th and Mexico on July 21st.

T&T line up vs Puerto Rico

1-Montel Joseph
2-Jesus Perez
3-Leland Archer
4-Duane Muckette
5-Jelani Felix
6-Alvin Jones
7-Neveal Hackshaw
8-Kadeem Corbin/ Akeem Roach- 73rd minute
9-Xavier Rajpaul/ Aikim Andrews 57th minute
10-Ricardo John
11-Rundell Winchester/ Jomal Williams 83rd

Unused Substitutes: - Aaron Enil, Martieon Watson, Jabari Mitchell, Josiah Trimmingham, Shackiel Henry.

Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Deeks on June 30, 2015, 08:41:13 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: SWF Reporter on June 30, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
Team manager David Muhammad explains why Keane McIvor and Adrian Welch were ineligible to play in the U-23 tournament:
"The tournament rules mandated that each team must have three goalkeepers and 17 outfield players on its roster but Under-23 goalkeeper Javon Sample was denied a visa. Trinidad and Tobago travelled to Puerto Rico with 19 outfield players and two goalkeepers and, as the CFU stuck to the rules, McIvor and Welch, became inactive passengers."
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: AZZURRI on June 30, 2015, 10:16:53 PM
What a real mess.

Not only Corbin should have been replaced, but isn't Neil Benjamin injured?

They dropped two strikers for what ever reason (Akeem Roach and Ricardo John).

Three more is out; Corbin and Winchester (with senior team) and Benjamin (injured?).

What a shame.

No Olympic and now Pan-Am dream looks slim.

This Muhammad guy was fired and they reinstate him without proper cause and paying the price now.

Can't forget the incident with Jlloyd Samuel.

Then again, you get what you pay for.



Sorry....but.....

what happened with Muhammed and Jlloyd???
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: AZZURRI on June 30, 2015, 10:18:16 PM
ummmmmmmmm

is this Muhammad's full time job?
How did he get this job?
What qualifications or experience does he have in sports mgmt???

we have ppl coming back with sports mgmt degrees and not being put to good use.

Please...this dude needs to ride.
he needs to just resign and save face
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Tiresais on July 01, 2015, 04:33:25 AM
Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. How can any self-respecting manager make such a mistake? He needs to go on a couple of training course and get his head in the damn job
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: soccerman on July 01, 2015, 08:20:53 AM
Team manager David Muhammad explains why Keane McIvor and Adrian Welch were ineligible to play in the U-23 tournament:
"The tournament rules mandated that each team must have three goalkeepers and 17 outfield players on its roster but Under-23 goalkeeper Javon Sample was denied a visa. Trinidad and Tobago travelled to Puerto Rico with 19 outfield players and two goalkeepers and, as the CFU stuck to the rules, McIvor and Welch, became inactive passengers."
What's bad is we even got basic math wrong, a total of 20 players is supposed to be on the roster and we had 21 ::)
Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Flex on July 01, 2015, 09:23:52 AM
What a real mess.

Not only Corbin should have been replaced, but isn't Neil Benjamin injured?

They dropped two strikers for what ever reason (Akeem Roach and Ricardo John).

Three more is out; Corbin and Winchester (with senior team) and Benjamin (injured?).

What a shame.

No Olympic and now Pan-Am dream looks slim.

This Muhammad guy was fired and they reinstate him without proper cause and paying the price now.

Can't forget the incident with Jlloyd Samuel.

Then again, you get what you pay for.



Sorry....but.....

what happened with Muhammed and Jlloyd???

http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/senior-team-news/6284-ttff-manager-takes-jlloyd-for-a-joy-ride.html

Title: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: SWF Reporter on July 01, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)


San Juan Jabloteh utility player Josiah Trimmingham has been selected to replace St Ann’s Rangers attacker Kadeem Corbin in the Trinidad and Tobago National Under-23 Team for the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games.

Corbin was essentially ruled unavailable for the Pan Am tournament since June 20 when National Senior Team coach Stephen Hart picked the versatile 19-year-old attacker in his 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup squad.

However, Under-23 manager David Muhammad took another two weeks to inform the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) of the change in its travelling squad. And, in the process, the “Soca Warriors” missed another deadline.

It is believed that Trimmingham was on the initial Under-23 provisional squad, which means the former San Juan Secondary student should have already been vetted by the Toronto Local Organising Committee (LOC).

Once Trimmingham is proven to have passed earlier security checks, TTOC president Brian Lewis said it is very likely that he will be accredited to play in the Pan Am Games. If not, the Warriors, who were unable to register a full 20-man squad for last month’s Olympic qualifying tournament, will again travel shorthanded.

Lewis made it clear that he did not intend to single out Muhammad or any particular sporting body for shoddy management. But he admitted to his frustration in the administrative work of some sporting bodies, which, he felt, do a disservice to their athletes.

“There are some sports we have perennially had issues with and, from where I am sitting, this has to stop,” Lewis told Wired868. “This is just not how the TTOC wants to be operating. We want our athletes to have peace of mind and this is not the preparation we want athletes and teams operating through the TTOC to go through.

“I am not pointing blame, I am trying to look at the end result. We have to strive to ensure that our athletes are giving the best environment and opportunity to perform at their best and succeed.

“Everything else is excuses.”

The Under-23 outfit was eliminated from the Olympic qualifying series after just 90 minutes following an opening 5-3 loss to St Vincent and the Grenadines in Puerto Rico.

Muhammad’s tardiness in applying for US visas was felt to be a big blow to the squad as coach Zoran Vranes was forced to replace eight members from his original 20-man squad, who could not get travel documents.

The players who missed out were former National Under-20 captain and right back Shannon Gomez, who has two senior team caps, as well as striker Dwight Quintero, attacking midfielder Nathaniel Garcia, defenders Jibiri McDavid, Maurice Ford, Triston Hodge and Dario Holmes and goalkeeper Javon Sample.

TTFA general secretary Sheldon Phillips said the local football body was “concerned” about the team’s performance and was awaiting reports from the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) tournament committee as well as Muhammad and Vranes before deciding on the next course of action.

“People are focusing on the visa issue but the fact of the matter is St Vincent had to go through the same issue,” Phillips told Wired868. “One can argue that (St Vincent and the Grenadines) had a more difficult time (than us) and they were able to overcome it and we didn’t.

“Obviously, (as regards) the latest issue with the US embassy, we have to reiterate that they bent over backwards to accommodate us and make sure our players got over there.”

Lewis explained that the TTOC will holds it Delegates Registration Meeting (DRM) tomorrow, which is the curtain call for the Pan Am Games.

However, the TTOC president pointed out that some administrators prefer to act as if deadlines do not apply to them and it causes unnecessary stress on the TTOC, the tournament organisers and, worst of all, the athletes.

“There are people who constantly operate with deadlines as if the world revolves around them but there are over 6,500 athletes (the Toronto LOC is) dealing with,” said Lewis. “We have to keep stepping up our game… What we have been striving for is about being athlete centred and we operate on a no-excuse philosophy at the TTOC.

“Whatever challenges that arise, we have to strive to get over them. If we want to demand the best from our athletes, we have to endeavour to do our best too.

“Stop making excuses and trying to rationalise failures and mistakes.”

At present, five unspecified members of the Under-23 squad are awaiting Canadian visas, since they were not included in the initial provisional list for accreditation.

(Team)

T&T’s Under-23 Pan Am squad: Jovan Sample, Montell Joseph, Shannon Gomez, Alvin Jones, Dario Holmes, Maurice Ford, Jesus Perez, Tristan Hodge, Jelani Felix, Neveal Hackshaw, Xavier Rajpaul, Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews, Nathaniel Garcia, Shackiel Henry, Dwight Quintero, Neil Benjamin.

Late inclusion: Josiah Trimmingham.

Withdrawn: Kadeem Corbin.

Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Flex on July 01, 2015, 06:27:53 PM
So they replace a striker with a defender.

We already dont have John, Winchester, Roach, Benjamin and now Corbin.

Strikers McIvor and Welch is also ineligible...

Not to mention, Dwight Quintero our only striker didn't score or didn't play with the team in Puerto Rico.??

Wow...

I guess we will be playing a 5-5-0 formation...

 ;D

Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: SWF Reporter on July 01, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
I thought the same thing Flex! I thought they might have gone with Akeem Roach or Ricardo John who did so well in Puerto Rico. But then they waited so late to do any damn thing that it meant they HAD to pick someone from provisional list. That ruled out Roach. But not John.
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Banter Banton on July 01, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Hahaha Jesus Christ. They really replace him with a defender? I can't believe Ricardo John not on that team considering he was on the prov list . Wow
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Sam on July 01, 2015, 07:17:07 PM
We hire ah next jackass coach and a conny for a manager.

I not even going and waste time watching this team, because is real blose they go get.

Title: Re: Corbin confusion; TTOC, US Embassy finger Muhammad for U-23 cock-ups
Post by: Tiresais on July 02, 2015, 12:48:34 AM
What a real mess.

Not only Corbin should have been replaced, but isn't Neil Benjamin injured?

They dropped two strikers for what ever reason (Akeem Roach and Ricardo John).

Three more is out; Corbin and Winchester (with senior team) and Benjamin (injured?).

What a shame.

No Olympic and now Pan-Am dream looks slim.

This Muhammad guy was fired and they reinstate him without proper cause and paying the price now.

Can't forget the incident with Jlloyd Samuel.

Then again, you get what you pay for.



Sorry....but.....

what happened with Muhammed and Jlloyd???

http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/senior-team-news/senior-team-news/6284-ttff-manager-takes-jlloyd-for-a-joy-ride.html

Thanks or that, this guy's not painting himself as a picture of competence
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Tiresais on July 02, 2015, 12:50:11 AM
sigh
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Flex on July 02, 2015, 01:59:56 AM
John, Enil, Muckette drafted into squad.
T&T Guardian Reports.


The trio of US-based players Ricardo John, Aaron Enil and Dwane Muckette were drafted into the T&T men’s football team for the Pan American Games which takes place in Toronto, Canada later this month.

This was confirmed by team manager David Muhammed who stated that the trio who were all part of the Olympic (Under-23) team which ended second to St Vincent and the Grenadines in their three-team Caribbean Football Union Group qualifiers for the Rio de Janeiro 2016 Olympic Games will replace Central FC striker Dwight Quintero, goalkeeper Montell Joseph, and senior team call-up Kadeem Corbin, who left yesterday as part of the senior Soca Warriors squad for the 2015 Concacaf Gold Cup which begins in the USA on July 7.

At the Pan American Games, T&T will face Uruguay (July 13), Paraguay (July 17) and Mexico (July 21) in pool play.

Looking ahead to the tournament, T&T coach, Serbian-born Zoran Vranes who was at the helm of the T&T Olympic team which ended its qualifying campaign with a 5-0 thrashing of host Puerto Rico after a 3-5 loss to St Vincent and the Grenadines said he was pleased that his side bounced back.

“I am happy to see the boys come back and play this way. It has been a long few weeks for them, you know, preparing for the tournament and then coming here to get knocked out after one loss,” Vranes said.

“But I know their capabilities and they were able to put the loss behind them and focus on this game. I think the early start helped us and we never looked back.

“Now we have a few days to prepare for the Pan American Games. The players are anxious because they all would like to play against these quality teams. They want to do well for the country and I think this will be a great opportunity for them to go there and do something good and get the experience for the future.”

Team

Aaron Enil, Shannon Gomez, Maurice Ford, Alvin Jones, Jesus Perez, Neveal Hackshaw, Jomal Williams, Tristan Hodge, Nathaniel Garcia, Dwane Muckette, Shackeil Henry, Xavier Rajpaul, Ricardo John, Jelani Felix, Neil Benjamin Jr, Dario Holmes, Aikim Andrews, Jovan Sample.

Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: King Deese on July 02, 2015, 10:34:41 AM
You have a few days to prepare for Mexico, Uruguay and Paraguay. Teams that have been preparing for this moment for who knows how long and you are looking forward to this tournament? Who are you kidding? Why do I get this sick feeling that this team and the senior team are going to be playing for pride and nothing else in these useful exercises. Nobody gets fired.
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Storeboy on July 02, 2015, 11:44:35 AM
You have a few days to prepare for Mexico, Uruguay and Paraguay. Teams that have been preparing for this moment for who knows how long and you are looking forward to this tournament? Who are you kidding? Why do I get this sick feeling that this team and the senior team are going to be playing for pride and nothing else in these useful exercises. Nobody gets fired.
No accountability. Does anyone in these organizations get evaluated?
Title: Re: U-23s swap Corbin with Trimmingham; TTOC slams self-centred administrators
Post by: Trini _2022 on July 02, 2015, 04:43:25 PM
st Vincent had visa problems >:( vranes will always get work in Trinidad no matter what
Title: Vincy Heat U23 Footballers Overcome Problems To Prevail
Post by: Trini _2022 on July 08, 2015, 01:17:55 PM
http://thevincentian.com/u-footballers-overcome-problems-to-prevail-p8419-139.htm
Vincy Heat U23 Footballers Overcome Problems To Prevail

"We are capable of competing and possibly beating anyone we take on right now,” U23 coach Wade ‘Elbir’ Jackson said, one day after returning from Puerto Rico where the team topped Group Four of the CFU Olympic Qualifiers.

By virtue of this win, the team advanced to the semi-finals of the CFU Qualifiers, where they will take on Haiti on August 14th, 2015 for a place in the final and a berth into the CONCACAF play-offs, with Qualifications for the 2016 Rio Olympic Games at stake.

The U23s played to a 2-2 draw with host Puerto Rico, and beat regional power house Trinidad and Tobago 5-3, after a serious of problems on their way to the tournament.

According to the coach, the team left here on Monday for Barbados to go through what was expected to be an easy process of obtaining visas from the US Embassy. This was not to be! It took them four days to make it into Puerto Rico after problems encountered at the Embassy.

There were similar problems faced by both Trinidad and Suriname, resulting in the latter being forced to withdraw from the tournament.

Visas granted, the team headed for Miami, where they had to spend a night in the airport before flying out the next day for Puerto Rico.

"The guys had to sleep on the floor, coiled up in chairs or on bags to pass the night; they kept their motivation by dancing to Vincy Soca music to keep themselves warm because it was really cold as well,” the coach said.
The team arrived in Puerto Rico, according to Jackson, just hours before the match, occasioning a pre-match ‘meeting on the run’.

And after setbacks and inconveniences, the players took to the field with such confidence and commitment that he knew they were going to give a good showing, Jackson said.

In that match, which ended 2-2, Puerto Rico twice went ahead through Cooper Nungent in the 10th minute and again with Joseph Marrero in the 75th , only for Solomon (12) and Oalex Anderson (80) minute to draw level.
"If we had lost that game 2-1, I would have been disappointed, but could not have asked for more from these guys….they really gave it their all,” coach Jackson admitted.

In the second match, from a 4-0 lead at half time, SVG conceded three goals in the second period of play, but came away eventual winners, 5-3.

While admitting that it was too many goals to let in, Jackson said that fatigue had eventually set in, plus there was a critical injury concern.

"Our top defender Danroy Edwards had picked up an ankle injury, but because of his importance to the team, we just could not take him off, but we were never in any danger of losing that game….we always had everything under control…yes they got some late goals, but two of those goals were rebounds from goalkeeping saves”, a confident Jackson said.

The Vincentians were piloted to victory by Tevin Slater with a hattrick ( 17, 38, 85) Anderson (19) and UK-Based Bard Miguel ( 42), while T&T got goals from Ricardo John (64, 88) and Akeem Roach (75).
Jackson and his team are looking forward to meeting Haiti, since many of the U23 were part of the U17 team which was hammered 6-1 by the Haitians in Trinidad, in 2008.
The team returns to training next Thursday.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on July 09, 2015, 12:41:05 AM
Good on 'em :)
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Flex on July 10, 2015, 02:38:03 AM
Tim Kee vows to take responsibility for U-23’s managerial woes.
By Lasana Liburd (wired868).


The Trinidad and Tobago Women’s National Senior Team’s threatened boycott of the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games, due to a match fees row, hogged the sport media spotlight for the past two days.

However, the National Men’s Under-23 Team’s own managerial issues are arguably even more serious.

Head coach Zoran Vranes left for Toronto yesterday with a squad that had three different players from the one that manager David Muhammad announced last week. And last week’s Under-23 squad was different to the one the TTFA submitted to the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) prior to that.

In fact, Vranes team has changed seven times in the past months due to Muhammad’s persistent inability to sort out passports, travel documents, registration and tournament rules within stipulated time frames for the TTOC, Toronto Pan Am Local Organising Committee (LOC), Caribbean Football Union (CFU) and the United States and Canada Embassies.

The latest alteration left Vranes without England-based goalkeeper Montell Joseph, who played in their  resounding 5-0 win over Puerto Rico. Instead, he was forced to include teenaged Jabloteh custodian Aaron Enill, who conceded five times in their decisive loss to the St Vincent and the Grenadines.

Central FC forward Dwight Quintero and versatile San Juan Jabloteh defender Josiah Trimmingham were also replaced by Virginia Tech forward Ricardo John and ex-National Under-20 midfielder Duane Muckette.

In this case, the Under-23 staff ignored rules set in place for over two months with regards to sticking to players from its provisional squad. In the same way that the Warriors turned up in Puerto Rico with 21 players—inclusive of two goalkeepers—for a 20-man tournament which insisted on every team travelling with three goalkeepers.

Ironically, Muhammad chided the CFU for its organisation, two weeks ago, and urged the Caribbean body to take a page from the Pan Am organisers.

“What the (Trinidad and Tobago) Olympic Committee did was requested a roster along with photographs, which were submitted to the Canada embassy,” Muhammad told Wired868 on 24 June, “and, through the Canadian Embassy, we got temporary accreditation which will have the same weight as a visa for the duration of the tournament.

“If the CFU wants to hold a tournament in a country where a visa is required, they could at least explore the possibility of something of that nature.”

Just over a week later, Muhammad ran afoul of the Pan Am rules as well. And, once again, Vranes’ squad will suffer for it.

“I read what you you said about it (but) I want to see Muhammad when they are through (their Pan Am campaign) because I didn’t want to exacerbate anything,” said Tim Kee. “When that is finished, there are some adjustments to be made.”

Muhammad served as manager under coaches Francisco Maturana and Russell Latapy between February 2008 and December 2010 but was relieved of his post after complaints by players and coaches.

Tim Kee, who is also the Port of Spain Mayor and PNM Treasurer, made it his first order of business as TTFA president to reintroduce Muhammad in 2013.

“I knew the MO of the previous advisor (Jack Warner) was that if he didn’t like you for any particular reason you would be out the next day,” said Tim Kee. “Everyone knew that. At that time, I felt that is exactly what happened and I objected to it. I felt the best thing to do was to fix it.

“Now that this thing has come out, the reason could be different…”

Tim Kee admitted that he did not try to ascertain information on Muhammad’s previous stint as team manager before re-hiring him.

“Nobody had come and said anything about (his previous stint as manager) including the general secretary at the time (Richard Groden),” said Tim Kee. “So I went by what David told me and because I knew David and I trusted him…

“I knew David from the Nation of Islam. I knew (Louis) Farrakhan mentioned David was his representative here. And based on that…”

The National Under-23 Team faces Uruguay, Paraguay and Mexico on July 13, July 17 and July 21 in Toronto. The two team teams will advance to the Pan Am semifinals.

(National Under-23 Team run-down)

Pan American squad (revealed on June 29): Jovan Sample, Shannon Gomez, Alvin Jones, Dario Holmes, Maurice Ford, Jesus Perez, Tristan Hodge, Jelani Felix, Neveal Hackshaw, Xavier Rajpaul, Jomal Williams, Aikim Andrews, Nathaniel Garcia, Shackiel Henry, Neil Benjamin.

Withdrawn due to Gold Cup selection: Kadeem Corbin.

Failed to get accreditation: Montell Joseph, Dwight Quintero, Josiah Trimmingham.

Late inclusions: Aaron Enill, Duane Muckette, Ricardo John.

Olympic qualifying players excluded from Pan Am Team: Leland Archer, Akeem Roach, Martieon Watson, Jabari Mitchell.

Travelled to Olympic qualifiers but not properly registered: Adrian Welch, Keane McIvor.

Withdrawn from Olympic qualifiers due to visa issues and not recalled: Jibiri McDavid.

Unavailable due to Gold Cup selection: Rundell Winchester.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: royal on July 10, 2015, 07:44:48 AM
“Nobody had come and said anything about (his previous stint as manager) including the general secretary at the time (Richard Groden),” said Tim Kee. “So I went by what David told me and because I knew David and I trusted him…

“I knew David from the Nation of Islam. I knew (Louis) Farrakhan mentioned David was his representative here. And based on that…”
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for a big grown professional man Tim Kee does talk tata sometimes eh
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on July 10, 2015, 08:41:17 AM
Is Tim Kee a Muslim?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: lefty on July 10, 2015, 11:12:42 AM
“Nobody had come and said anything about (his previous stint as manager) including the general secretary at the time (Richard Groden),” said Tim Kee. “So I went by what David told me and because I knew David and I trusted him…

“I knew David from the Nation of Islam. I knew (Louis) Farrakhan mentioned David was his representative here. And based on that…”
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for a big grown professional man Tim Kee does talk tata sometimes eh

so he reinstate ah man without consultin all d stakeholders and den does wonder why he does get so much flak....mohammed is a terrible team manager.......is how much instances of "don't care damn" mishaps on he record again...............better than dat Timkee ....yuh give yuh spiritual breddar ah bligh and he muck it up again......for d umpteenth time...end of story
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: socalion on July 10, 2015, 03:36:57 PM
Mr mayor / president of TTFA Ray Tim Kee  with all due respect  is that your presentation / factual reasoning for re hiring David Muhummad ?  well boy  we in real trouble  oui ....and you want another 4 years to head the TTFA  as President  yuh got to be joking  ... this is real laughable l 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: truehaitian on August 16, 2015, 07:30:21 PM
Haiti edges Cuba 1-0 to win the U-23 Caribbean Olympic championship
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 30, 2016, 08:32:14 PM
Colombia edge USA to end drought
FIFA.com


Colombia are through to their first Men’s Olympic Football Tournament for 24 years after a battling 2-1 win over USA in Frisco, Texas on Tuesday.

The home side boasted a narrow advantage heading into the match after collecting a 1-1 draw in Barranquilla last week.

Colombia’s Roger Martinez proved to be the hero for the visitors, with the Racing Club striker scoring midway through each half.

USA, who had two players sent off in the latter stages, levelled just before the hour mark through a Deiver Machado own goal.

Colombia, however, held on to join Argentina at Rio 2016 as South American representatives.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympic Team Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 30, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
TTFA has to take most of the blame for our U-23 not making it to the play-offs.
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: Deeks on August 03, 2016, 05:58:29 AM
Forum, Olympic football starts today!!!
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: palos on August 03, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
2008 article?

Damn!  :o
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: Deeks on August 03, 2016, 02:53:01 PM
Brazil just beat China 3-0.
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: Deeks on August 03, 2016, 04:51:00 PM
Germany 6 - Zimbabwe 1.
Title: Re: How important is Olimpic football to Brazil?
Post by: E-man on August 03, 2016, 05:43:51 PM
Hope 'Zika' Solo
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 02:43:13 PM
83rd min. South Africa with 10 men scoreless with Brazil.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: E-man on August 04, 2016, 02:54:55 PM
Not a good start for Brazil. They had chances against 10 men but put nothing away.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
This game was like TT-Sweden in Germany.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 04, 2016, 04:17:15 PM

A lot of pressure on both Brazil men and women teams to win the Gold at home
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 04:19:03 PM
Colombia 1 vs Sweden 0. They talked about this is a Zika games. I seeing moths fleeing around inside the stadium.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Just now catching my first action of the Games. Tuned in the last few minutes to see Sweden's equalizer to end the first half, and Argentina almost scoring a losing bicycle kick.

Cyah believe it: Olympic coverage on at least 8 stations. Stunning.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
Right now Fiji fighting hard against S. Korea. 0-0 after 24 mins.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 04, 2016, 06:19:46 PM
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/66367601.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 06:38:29 PM
Dahis wha I saying. De kpr was making some critical saves at 1-0. Saw about 4 or 5. Looked away to respond to mail, only to find 4-0 in short order. Now 6 nil. Where did it all go wrong?
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 06:40:57 PM
Dahis wha I saying. De kpr was making some critical saves at 1-0. Saw about 4 or 5. Looked away to respond to mail, only to find 4-0 in short order. Now 6 nil. Where did it all go wrong?

Pressure does buss pipe. After being under constant pressure, they run out of gas.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
Plus, watch the 8th: right-footed forward who has always been coming in on his right, the defender on wheels heading hard outside. Shows the inexperience. Especially with what? seconds left in the match?!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 06:55:44 PM
Nigeria reach!!!  :devil:
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 04, 2016, 07:11:28 PM
What the hell going on in this game?
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
And Japan too. :rotfl:

4 goals in 11 minutes. This is 🎾
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: E-man on August 04, 2016, 07:12:23 PM
from the looks of the first 10 min. this Ngr-Jpn match is the most open and free-flowing so far in the tournament , 2-2
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 07:16:01 PM
Crazy game!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 07:25:31 PM
Nice game. Plenty skills!. Nice ball control by both teams.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 07:43:14 PM
3-2 Nigeria.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 04, 2016, 09:15:03 PM
5-4 Nigeria....I must give Nigeria props for pretty much walking off the plane and taking 3 points
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: chelsealife on August 04, 2016, 09:42:26 PM
Where d football coverage on. What channel?
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 04, 2016, 10:04:39 PM
Streaming on computer nbcsports.com. And NBC sports on TV
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 06, 2016, 02:32:12 PM
France real running the USA in this match.

I watching this Cadamuro woman and find she look familiar, so I look she up. Necib get married.

The "ZIKAAAA!!!" chant whenever Hope Solo kick the ball is kicks too.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 06, 2016, 03:40:18 PM
France real running the USA in this match.

I watching this Cadamuro woman and find she look familiar, so I look she up. Necib get married.

The "ZIKAAAA!!!" chant whenever Hope Solo kick the ball is kicks too.

Saw the shirt, but didn't see the face. Only saw the dregs of the first half but was wondering.

Doh matter what Solo say, she taking a lil extra time to compose.

Renard is a general.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 06, 2016, 07:26:45 PM
Watching Brazil vs Sweden women on NBCSN now....Brazil looking good, putting serious pressure in the Swedes
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 06, 2016, 07:32:15 PM
One silly error opened up the game. Well, three.

Shield the player, protect the ball. Also, indiscipline/lack of awareness from the Swedish fwd kicking from an offside position. Game might have been tied up had she left the ball for the trailing attacker.

Prior to the goal, Brazil was trying to stretch Sweden. Were clearly operating on knowledge of Sweden's vulnerability to long balls. Now 2-0 up we are seeing more play on the ground as Brazil gets into the final third.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 06, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
One silly error opened up the game. Well, three.

Shield the player, protect the ball. Also, indiscipline/lack of awareness from the Swedish fwd kicking from an offside position. Game might have been tied up had she left the ball for the trailing attacker.

Prior to the goal, Brazil was trying to stretch Sweden. Were clearly operating on knowledge of Sweden's vulnerability to long balls. Now 2-0 up we are seeing more play on the ground as Brazil gets into the final third.

Yes the Swedish defender shouldn't have allowed the Brazilian fwd to get a foot onto that ball. Before the goal Sweden  had a golden opportunity but the player took way too long to play the pass to her teammate who was WIDE open to get a clear shot on goal...even the coach looked frustrated with that.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 06, 2016, 08:12:27 PM
I want Brazil women to put a cut arse on the American women when they meet
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 10:12:05 AM
Fiji 1 vs Mex. 0. Nice long ball counter and header. Golazo!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 10:31:39 AM
Still 1-0, Fiji. They are in a defensive struggle, though.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
Still 1-0, Fiji. They are in a defensive struggle, though.

I say you woulda been taking een de Community Shield. 1-1 @ 74'.

If Mexico loses to Fiji, there will be hell to pay.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 10:45:29 AM
I can't pick up the community shield game on my iPad. Ooooh, Mex. just "throway".  Their captain, Krishna, a doughla-looking dude, scored the goal. Not a bad player, but he alone up front.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 11:04:46 AM
Oh well. 1-1
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 11:13:13 AM
Looking at the replay, that 1st goal should have been disallowed. The ball was out before the cross came. Oh oh! As I typing 2-1 Mex.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 11:14:50 AM
3-1. Fiji lack stamina
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 07, 2016, 11:24:25 AM
4-1.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 11:29:23 AM
4-1.

5-1. With 20 minutes to play. When I saw your post, I thought the match was done.

I eh go watch no more.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 12:15:44 PM
Looking at the replay, that 1st goal should have been disallowed. The ball was out before the cross came. Oh oh! As I typing 2-1 Mex.

Just saw the post-match analysis with that. The big teams always ketch breaks. Wha yuh go do ... While Fiji is not a second half squad, the little things change matches. Arguably, Zlatan's goal to win the Community was offside.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 07, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
Korea had Germany to dismiss for 4-2 on a wicked counterattack and they ketch stage fright.

3-3. Good match. Two borse goals x Gnabry.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
The crowd singing the anthem hard in anticipation of the inevitable disappointment.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2016, 07:02:52 PM
Looking at the replay, that 1st goal should have been disallowed. The ball was out before the cross came. Oh oh! As I typing 2-1 Mex.

Just saw the post-match analysis with that. The big teams always ketch breaks. Wha yuh go do ... While Fiji is not a second half squad, the little things change matches. Arguably, Zlatan's goal to win the Community was francoment offside.


Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2016, 07:53:12 PM
The crowd singing the anthem hard in anticipation of the inevitable disappointment.

0 - 0 at the half. We on track.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 07, 2016, 08:35:14 PM
The crowd singing the anthem hard in anticipation of the inevitable disappointment.

0 - 0 at the half. We on track.
Brazil is capable of getting a purgers goal if they continue like this
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 07, 2016, 08:56:38 PM
The crowd singing the anthem hard in anticipation of the inevitable disappointment.

0 - 0 at the half. We on track.
Brazil is capable of getting a purgers goal if they continue like this

2 games, 40 shots, 0 goals.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: weary1969 on August 08, 2016, 07:26:15 AM
Brazil play 2 games and eh score 1 goal wow
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 08, 2016, 12:51:01 PM
It is not hard to figure out that Brazil has a problem scoring goals. They have superior ball possession, but they are missing a "midas-touch" player at the moment. So far Neymar is unable to find his mark. I hope next game they score one goal more than the opposing team, or else "bye-bye Rio" for them. The Brazilian Federation must figure out why is this problem keep occurring for big tournaments. Do they need to go in the different parts of the country and other sections of the city to unearth the extraordinary talent. Because this crop of players are not living up to the standard that is expected of a Brazilian team.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2016, 12:55:09 PM
Japan and South Korea have played some solid football but they both seem plagued with a dose of bad luck. Watch the highlights of Japan-Colombia.

As for Nigeria: tallman Sadiq is delivering! Awesome.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 08, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
It is not hard to figure out that Brazil has a problem scoring goals. They have superior ball possession, but they are missing a "midas-touch" player at the moment. So far Neymar is unable to find his mark. I hope next game they score one goal more than the opposing team, or else "bye-bye Rio" for them. The Brazilian Federation must figure out why is this problem keep occurring for big tournaments. Do they need to go in the different parts of the country and other sections of the city to unearth the extraordinary talent. Because this crop of players are not living up to the standard that is expected of a Brazilian team.

I have doubts regarding the policy of including overage players. Perhaps what's needed is an age limit on the players older than U23.

Obi Mikel is proving himself an exception, but not so sure he isn't the odd old man out.

Son Heung-Min has been good. He jes turned 24. Neymar is a '92 as well. But, Oribe Peralta is too ole a foot and not a first-choice inclusion.

Will have a closer look at the players the European nations have included.

I think the overage players should be under 30.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 08, 2016, 02:55:37 PM
Why Brazil has problems scoring?

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/08/05/36FDDB4500000578-0-image-a-7_1470631366458.jpg)

They might be good, but they can't overcome the packed defenses they always face. It might be better for them to let the opposition have the ball and get comfortable.  The same is often said about Arsenal, the huge difference in possession works against them.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2016, 06:58:30 AM
Commented above about overage players. A few hours later had a chance conversation with a player who participated as an overage player at the Athens Olympics. In fact, as the oldest player on his squad.

His first comment was: he has been amused by the notion of finding it easy at the Olympics (against nations that people assume ought to represent little to no threat).
People have short memories, despite the historical record.

He played in a group with an African nation, an Asian nation and a UEFA nation. The team was home early after three tight games. Having been dependent on a result in the other match.

On the use of overage players: it depends. Understood the intent on his squad because the idea was to reinforce the spine of the team.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
Women: Can2 vs Germany 1. 15 mins to go.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Well, well, well. Hope Solo has made the Brazilians day. Colombia 1-0, leading. Free kick slips thru her hands. Blooper of the games.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: maxg on August 09, 2016, 04:48:14 PM
Colombie goalie so cool, she must be related to Higuita..I expecting a scorpion anytime soon. ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
Hope again. 2-2. Free kick by Uzme again. Hope tried to punch with her left hand. Too much pace. 1 min of added on time.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2016, 05:56:14 PM
Game done.  USA won the group. Going to Brasilia for 1/4. Colombia was great. The Colombian FA will start a pro-league for their women this coming season. Great ball from them.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 09, 2016, 06:00:13 PM
ZIKAAAAAAAA!!!!

:devil:

Brianna Scurry woulda never let them goal score... 
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 09, 2016, 07:27:18 PM
Brazil playing with they food. That is how you does get upset.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 09, 2016, 09:13:38 PM
Well SA held out. 0-0.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 09, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/o8MecSmbUVs
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: E-man on August 10, 2016, 11:40:32 AM
Honduras may take Argentina out today. Just got a penalty scored in the 75th
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 10, 2016, 01:17:20 PM
Honduras may take Argentina out today. Just got a penalty scored in the 75th

They just did. This Arg. team performing like Brazil. Plenty possession but can't score. The Arg.FA has to take some of the blame for this "fiasco". First time since 1964 Arg team has not advance past the prelims. By the way Diego Simeone son came on as a sub.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2016, 01:32:57 PM
Some of the officiating in this tourney has been sub-par, and on basic calls at that. Mexico got a corner in their favour that should never have been a corner. From that corner, they won two additional corners. It would have been a huge injustice had Mexico scored. Very sensitive situation because Germany is pummeling Fiji.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
Honduras may take Argentina out today. Just got a penalty scored in the 75th

They just did. This Arg. team performing like Brazil. Plenty possession but can't score. The Arg.FA has to take some of the blame for this "fiasco". First time since 1964 Arg team has not advance past the prelims. By the way Diego Simeone son came on as a sub.

The whole thing was hastily put together. Olarticochea was the coach of the women's squad at the Pan Ams when they faced us in the Group Stage. Here he was merely a caretaker-type coach slotting in out of national duty.
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Post by: E-man on August 10, 2016, 02:16:38 PM
Fiji keeper just saved a German penalty kick. Would have been the 9th goal. At this point Germany will advance even with a draw between Mex and Korea. If it is a draw Mexico would go home with the lowest goal diff. so they need to win this one.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 10, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Fiji keeper just saved a German penalty kick. Would have been the 9th goal. At this point Germany will advance even with a draw between Mex and Korea. If it is a draw Mexico would go home with the lowest goal diff. so they need to win this one.


Well Korea-Mex is 0-0 after 66 mins.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2016, 02:34:33 PM
Fiji keeper just saved a German penalty kick. Would have been the 9th goal. At this point Germany will advance even with a draw between Mex and Korea. If it is a draw Mexico would go home with the lowest goal diff. so they need to win this one.


Well Korea-Mex is 0-0 after 66 mins.

@ 77' ... 1-0 Korea. Great goal. Mexico have NEVER beaten Korea at the Olympics. Today would be the day to change that stat. The stat dates back to 1948.
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Post by: E-man on August 10, 2016, 02:37:20 PM
Korea on top now. Mexico has looked good enough to maybe get 2 late goals.
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2016, 02:45:58 PM
Korea on top now. Mexico has looked good enough to maybe get 2 late goals.

They have, but I don't think it will happen.

SK could have liquidated everything with goal #2. It was there for the taking.

I think SK has managed the match well. For about 15 to 20 minutes, SK defended stoutly after having insisted in attack for 25 to 30 minutes,. Mexico has struggled to break them down ...being reduced to shots from outside the penalty area.

Maybe a header around the penalty spot is their only chance, but they will likely run out of time.
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Post by: E-man on August 10, 2016, 03:03:27 PM
So it's done. Korea-Honduras, Germany-Portugal for quarterfinals
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 10, 2016, 05:32:40 PM
Nigeria trailing 2-0 to Colombia. Just missed a point blank range opportunity to go 3-0.

74' played.
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Post by: Bitter on August 10, 2016, 07:07:13 PM
Gabigol not improving his stock in this tournament at all.
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Post by: Bitter on August 10, 2016, 07:26:37 PM
1-0. Gabigol ent know what happen there.
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Post by: Deeks on August 10, 2016, 07:28:54 PM
At LaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasT they scored 1.
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Post by: soccerman on August 10, 2016, 07:31:13 PM
At LaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasT they scored 1.
Like they took that bush bath
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Post by: Bitter on August 10, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
Ok
That one look like they know what they doing.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 10, 2016, 08:12:58 PM
Brazil beginning to have fun now.
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Post by: Deeks on August 10, 2016, 08:25:19 PM
My stream eh working. Everybody watching to see if Brazil would have faultered. What is the score now?
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Post by: soccerman on August 10, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
3-0...it's on NBCSN if you have that channel
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Post by: soccerman on August 10, 2016, 08:37:50 PM
4-0 now
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Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 11:18:57 AM


Sweden lead America 1-0

I hope they knock their asses out, so I can hear the lame American commentators excuses
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 11:51:21 AM
Going to extra time. Advantage USA.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
Full time 1-1. Extra time.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
Sweden is a mentally weak team.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 12:27:24 PM
This assistant ref is ah mess.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 12, 2016, 12:43:30 PM
Pressure!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 12, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Zikaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 12:46:58 PM
Yuh have give it to Solo ... an attempt to win the mental battle. (Calling for a new pair of gloves to delay the final kick).

@ Bitter: that chant could follow her for life.  :rotfl:
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Post by: soccerman on August 12, 2016, 01:08:59 PM
Damn USA women's team lost to Sweden...missed the game but the some sweet revenge for the Swedish coach
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 06:19:32 PM
Canada 1 vs France 0. Au revoir Francoises!! I am a bit surprised.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 06:34:53 PM


Sweden lead America 1-0

I hope they knock their asses out, so I can hear the lame American commentators excuses

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:20:42 PM
Aussies holding off Brazil. 0-0 after 62 mins
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Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 09:41:24 PM
Allyuh would not believe who missed in the pk shootout for Brazil.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 09:45:56 PM
Brazil just pulled it off.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 12, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Brazil just pulled it off.
That was some excitement
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 13, 2016, 06:33:13 AM
One of the best game in the whole football tournament. TheAussie gk and defence were excellent. Marta try all kind of moves, they had a solution for her.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Jumbie on August 13, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
Quote

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.

competitors who hate to lose. We cud use ah dose.
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Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 11:05:00 AM
Quote

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.

competitors who hate to lose. We cud use ah dose.

nothing wrong with hating to lose, I agree we need a dose of that but calling the winners cowards is poor sportsmanship.  Find another way to express your disappointment in losing the game.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
Quote

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.

competitors who hate to lose. We cud use ah dose.

Do some research and find out what was said after the game by the American goal keeper. Like I said before, they are sore losers with NO ounce of respect and dignity.
.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Jumbie on August 13, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
Quote

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.

competitors who hate to lose. We cud use ah dose.

Do some research and find out what was said after the game by the American goal keeper. Like I said before, they are sore losers with NO ounce of respect and dignity.
.

No need for 'research", this is the age of information, where it's in your face. Hope is an ass, don't base you judgement of the entire team on her words. But then again, you have issues with anything "American".

Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 02:52:40 PM
Quote

Ah happy!  :D

Yuh see how d Americans are sore losers, they could never accept defeat gracefully.
.

competitors who hate to lose. We cud use ah dose.

Do some research and find out what was said after the game by the American goal keeper. Like I said before, they are sore losers with NO ounce of respect and dignity.
.

No need for 'research", this is the age of information, where it's in your face. Hope is an ass, don't base you judgement of the entire team on her words. But then again, you have issues with anything "American".



Yes that is the real issue here, your claim to my issues with anything American as oppose to what transpired after this football match. Deal with your personal agenda lmao
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Jumbie on August 13, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
Do enlighten what said agenda is.. please?

One more time, the words or actions of ONE person does NOT determine an entire team. If there's an issue, HS will have to deal with the IOC. Or do you think Team USA will have to deal with the IOC?

BTW, no comment on when Egyptian Judoka Islam el-Shehaby failed to shake the hand of Israeli opponent Or Sasson following the loss?

or

How bout when Ethiopia’s Almaz Ayana was openly accused by Swedish runner Sarah Lahti of not being “100 percent” clean because “it is too easy for her”

Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: E-man on August 13, 2016, 05:51:24 PM
Honduras is through
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 11:18:18 AM
These Swedish cowards need to just let Brazil score.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Cocorite on August 16, 2016, 11:38:32 AM
Marta an dem playing some sweet ball dey, Dred

Oooh Guude!!
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Post by: E-man on August 16, 2016, 12:33:05 PM
Another round of PKs
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Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 12:33:54 PM
Preshah
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:41:19 PM
No Messi moment for Marta.
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Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 12:41:49 PM
No Messi moment for Marta.

Keeper nearly save that one. At least she get it out of the way early.
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Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
Barbara coming off her line on every save. They fraid she?
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:46:06 PM
Several left-footed kickers.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:47:10 PM
Will be fine with a Swedish victory.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
Brazil is not always the bridesmaids nah, them is the ushers.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:49:48 PM
The cowards prevail. :P
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 16, 2016, 01:03:52 PM
Formiga is a super ant. Played her heart out.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 17, 2016, 09:33:48 AM
Pia Sundhage on women coaching men.

https://mobile.twitter.com/M_Gelin/status/765916586477748224

"Well, Angela Merkel runs a whole f**king country."
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
Brazil 1-0 vs Hondo. Defenders mistake. Neymar score. But I swore it looked scary after that. Neymar just crumpled on the ground just as he about to celebrate. I thought he was getting a heart attack. Serious. But he appears fine and playing like usually.
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Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 10:36:50 AM
Brazil 3-0 vs Hondo.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Mose on August 17, 2016, 11:48:58 AM
Pia Sundhage on women coaching men.

https://mobile.twitter.com/M_Gelin/status/765916586477748224

"Well, Angela Merkel runs a whole f**king country."

I love this woman!  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 17, 2016, 12:03:42 PM
Pia Sundhage on women coaching men.

https://mobile.twitter.com/M_Gelin/status/765916586477748224

"Well, Angela Merkel runs a whole f**king country."

Our own Dernelle Mascall coaches Club Sando Moruga in de National Super League
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 17, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
Want Nigeria to equalize. Mikel came close.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2016, 02:07:42 PM
Nigeria hanging on by a thread.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
Thread buss
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Post by: E-man on August 17, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
That 2nd goal was a long time coming. Gonna be a nice final
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 19, 2016, 11:19:38 AM
Marta and them need a bush bath.
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Post by: E-man on August 19, 2016, 11:46:45 AM
They are trying to make a game of it, but missed some good chances
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Post by: E-man on August 19, 2016, 04:18:12 PM
Women:

Germany!
Sweden
Canada
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 11:27:04 AM

Ah happy for Sweden the most. Well deserved
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Post by: E-man on August 20, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
Honduras is clawing their way back into this. 3-2 now, they have 5 min or so to find an equalizer.
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Post by: E-man on August 20, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
Nigeria hangs on. I had to look up Saliu's height. He looks like he's about 5'1" out on the field, but actually 5'7"
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Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 12:01:56 PM

Nigeria wanted it more
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Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2016, 04:33:42 PM
Pressure for Brazil here. The crowd tense.
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Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
Neymar is playing some stupendous through balls. These fellas not on his level.
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
I can feel the tension from here!
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
Guess the idea is for Neymar to kick the winning penalty.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2016, 05:08:58 PM
Don't choke Neymar
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:09:17 PM
Stage set for Neymar with that miss on Germany's 4th.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2016, 05:09:41 PM
Finally!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
Neymar!!!
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 05:10:14 PM

Neymar sealed the GOLD for Brazil in from their home crowd. Very special for the country of Brazil
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:10:20 PM
Is that a legal pk?
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:12:03 PM
Plenty pressure gehhin released there with Neymar in tears.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Bitter on August 20, 2016, 05:13:54 PM
Is that a legal pk?

Don't be that guy. Just enjoy the catharsis of a nation
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Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:15:42 PM
Hard luck, E-man. But Germany has the BIG ONE waiting.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 05:16:55 PM

Brazil deserved this. I give credit when its due :beermug:
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Post by: E-man on August 20, 2016, 05:20:02 PM
Congrats to Brazil. They pulled it out. Neymar brings in the Gold.

1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. Nigeria
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
Is that a legal pk?

Don't be that guy. Just enjoy the catharsis of a nation

 :)

I suppose it would have been perverse to have Germany win both the women's and men's titles.

Back to reality. Time to impeach Dilma.
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Post by: E-man on August 20, 2016, 05:24:59 PM
What I like is this German team took it to the brink without other U-23 like Draxler, Kimich, Rüdiger or Can. Things looking good for 2018
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Post by: Deeks on August 20, 2016, 10:05:55 PM
The German team look tall. Especially the back four. But it was Brazil time. What a Hollywood ending. Star boy Neymar had the last kick. He is an Olimpic champion. At the Maracana! Can't ask for a better ending.
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Post by: 100% Barataria on August 21, 2016, 04:43:49 AM
The German team look tall. Especially the back four. But it was Brazil time. What a Hollywood ending. Star boy Neymar had the last kick. He is an Olimpic champion. At the Maracana! Can't ask for a better ending.

Fuh real, happy for them, after 2014 and the women losing in the semis (not to mention the 1950 curse) losing this final would have been too much for them to bear perhaps.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: real madness on August 21, 2016, 12:19:46 PM
As a Brazil fan I thought I would never see an Olympic win.  As for Germany, their future looks bright.  The youths from the Olympic team plus the current senior players can be dominant for a while.  Hopefully this gold medal will instill some confidence back in Brazil football.  It will not fix the other issues but Tite is a good coach so things should be better than the Dunga regime.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 21, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
It good that they won. For a while it did not matter. But from Moscow Olimpics and beyond, Brazil has taken the OG seriously. These guys wanted it real bad, and this one in front of the home crowd was worth. I am glad they had to struggled because you know 99% of Braz. Swear God is a Braz. It could have gone the way of the Copa. About Tite being the man to coach to bring results ....... that is left to be seen. I am not totally sold on them. They have 2 years to bring that confidence to the Brazilian people.
Title: Re: 2016 Rio Olympics Football Tournament Thread
Post by: RichGFootball on August 23, 2016, 03:02:47 AM
Sounds familiar....doesn't it...  >:( :( :cursing: :banginghead: :yellowcard:

Rio 2016: Nigeria Olympic football team receive ‘$390,000 gift'

By Oluwashina Okeleji
BBC Sport
From the section Football

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37148817 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37148817)

A benefactor has handed a reward of $390,000 to the Nigerian Olympic football team in Brazil after the West African country won bronze on Saturday.

Japanese plastic surgeon Katsuya Takasu had promised to reward the team after hearing about their financial difficulties before and during the tournament.

Takasu fulfilled his promise by presenting cheques of $200,000 and $190,000 to coach Samson Siasia and captain John Mikel Obi respectively on behalf of the team.

He met with them two hours after Nigeria defeated Honduras 3-2 in the bronze medal play-off.

"The $200,000 covers the bonuses and allowances as promised and the $190,000 is for the bronze medal," Takasu told BBC Sport.

"I had travelled from Tokyo prepared to reward them anyway, and to watch them win the bronze inside the stadium was very fulfilling," he added.

Before arriving in Rio, Nigeria's 'Dream Team VI' were held up in Atlanta, USA, because of a problem with the payment for their flight, and they only landed in Brazil just hours before their opening 5-4 win over Japan.

Nigeria also had a troubled build-up to their quarter-final against Denmark after the players boycotted a training session in a dispute over pay.

"This team showed resilience and fought the hardest to achieve success, despite all their problems - some people would have given up but they didn't," said Takasu.

"In everything we must always let people understand that they are appreciated and not just in football but generally in life."

Coach Siasia, who becomes the most decorated African football coach at the Olympics having won a silver medal in Beijing in 2008, thanked Takasu for his generosity and support.

"We can't thank doctor Takasu enough because what he has done is amazing and unbelievable, we didn't see this coming when we set out for the Olympics" Siasia told BBC Sport.

"It's not just about the money. You can't equate his gesture in figures or words, to find a big supporter far away in Japan travel down here to cheer and back us is unbelievable.

"I can only say a big thank you on behalf of my team and country, we pray God continue to bless him abundantly," Siasia added.

Nigeria, the 1996 Olympic football champions, are now the most successful African country in Olympic men's football, and the first African country to complete an Olympic medal sweep having won a sliver medal in Beijing in 2008.

Takasu's swift financial reward is in sharp contrast to the unfulfilled promises back home.

Some members of Nigeria's Super Eagles - led by Stephen Keshi, who passed away in June - are still waiting for the houses they were promised by the government for winning the 1994 Africa Cup of Nations in Tunisia.

Keshi is the fifth member of the so-called 'Golden Generation' of Nigerian footballers from 1994 to pass away, after Uche Okafor, Thompson Oliha, Rashidi Yekini and Wilfred Agbonavbare.

Africa's wealthiest businessman, Aliko Dangote, has failed to fulfil his promise to reward Nigeria's team with $1m for winning the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations.

Nigerian economist and banker Tony Elumelu's promise of $500,000 for the Super Eagles' Nations Cup success in South Africa remains outstanding.

The country's squad members who won the first Fifa Under-16 World championship in 1985 were only rewarded after a 30-year wait.

However, the rewards came too late for Kingsley Aikhionbare, who died in London in 1996. At the presentation to the players, a minute's silence was held in his honour.
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Post by: Deeks on August 23, 2016, 06:19:51 AM
Sounds familiar. This Dangote fellah once wanted to buy an EPL team. I think it was QPR. All ah them ..... Full of mouth. My Nigerian co-worker came in to work and he said. "Imageen that, a foreign with no bloodlines to Africa, give more to our football than those bloodsucker in my country .....aye yah yai!!!".
Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: Sando on September 04, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
Visited again.

Title: Re: My views on T&T's 2012 Olympic qualifying series.
Post by: ffisback on September 07, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Look Loy should be taken to the back of the wooden shed for throwing this team under the bus.