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Sports => Football => Topic started by: palos on March 31, 2008, 01:14:11 PM
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Our first game in WC qualifying is June 15th
The England game is June 1
The last EPL & English Championship regular season game is May 11th (Southampton re: Stern John unless they get into the playoffs which is highly unlikely)
The last 1st Division regular season game is May 3rd (Swansea re: Dennis Lawrence & Jason Scotland unless they don't get automatic promotion to the Championship Division which at the moment seems unlikely)
This gives the majority of our overseas based players, NOT PLAYING IN MLS or A League, just about a month to train together with the local based players (barring injury). This is much more than the normal 3-5 days national team coaches have with these players.
A FULL STRENGTH T&T STARTING XI therefore could look like this for our first WCQ game:
Clayton Ince - Goalie
Dennis Lawrence - Central Defence (assuming he has indeed unretired from international football)
Keyeno Thomas - Central Defence
Kern Cupid - Right Wing Back
Akeem Adams - Left Wing Back
Aurtis Whitley - Central Midfield
Carlos Edwards - Right Midfield
Khaleem Hyland - Left Midfield
Keon Daniel - Central Midfield
Kenwyne Jones - Striker
Stern John / Jason Scotland - Striker
5 Foreign based
6 Local based
Dat about right?
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Call back all the foreign based,
even man like Sancho and Jack who not really player because you know they good enough to add something to the squad.
Hold some light training sessions and mix them in with the local based for a month,
from that squad of about 40 men pick a 22 of the best to play the WCQ games.
Even men like Spann, Josh Johnson and Hector Sam should get called anybody who based in Europe and have a decent chance of helping the squad should be called.
This is a valuable chance to have our team in training it is infact the last chance we have before we play bermuda but more importantly if we make it to the group of 4 so breing everybody home and let the new coach see who can do what.
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U leave out Daryl Roberts so quickly?
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U leave out Daryl Roberts so quickly?
I really really want to see how dat man do in a first choice team. He easy for most people to forget or under-rate because we doh see or follow his games as easily as those in the English leagues. But he playing and scoring at de highest level of any of our players, outside of Kenwyne and Carlos.
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Dry So how did you rate his performance against jamaica recently?
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Our first game in WC qualifying is June 15th
The England game is June 1
The last EPL & English Championship regular season game is May 11th (Southampton re: Stern John unless they get into the playoffs which is highly unlikely)
The last 1st Division regular season game is May 3rd (Swansea re: Dennis Lawrence & Jason Scotland unless they don't get automatic promotion to the Championship Division which at the moment seems unlikely)
This gives the majority of our overseas based players, NOT PLAYING IN MLS or A League, just about a month to train together with the local based players (barring injury). This is much more than the normal 3-5 days national team coaches have with these players.
A FULL STRENGTH T&T STARTING XI therefore could look like this for our first WCQ game:
Clayton Ince - Goalie
Dennis Lawrence - Central Defence (assuming he has indeed unretired from international football)
Keyeno Thomas - Central Defence
Kern Cupid - Right Wing Back
Akeem Adams - Left Wing Back
Aurtis Whitley - Central Midfield
Carlos Edwards - Right Midfield
Khaleem Hyland - Left Midfield
Keon Daniel - Central Midfield
Kenwyne Jones - Striker
Stern John / Jason Scotland - Striker
5 Foreign based
6 Local based
Dat about right?
Interesting post.
Several Points:
1) Walsall has an outside chance of making playoffs.
2) You ent think none of them men would want a little two weeks off? Ince has played every game for Wallsall this season. Swansea has played more games than any non UEFA cup,non CL side this season
3) Things so bad on the left side that we have to start a 16 year old?
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Dry So how did you rate his performance against jamaica recently?
I ain't watch the whole game, but from what I saw, he was holding up the ball well, pressuring the defence and was involved in most of our best chances. Also, reading some of the reports from Jamaicans at the match, he was our best player. He was among our best players at the Gold Cup as well.
No disrespect to Scotty, but League One is not the Eredivisie.
Or maybe Roberts could hold down one of the wings and make everybody happy. He say he prefer midfield anyway.
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aaammmm.....
KND2>>>u serious with that comment bout bringing back all dem players?
if ya aint playin for a club or at least playin regular ya shouldnt get call ...simple!
i would like to see Birchall and all get call back but he aint deserve it.
If he cah make at Coventry maybe he should leave or put in his work next season and start
all dem names like sancho and jack...thas goin a few steps backward there to pick men that aint playing no ball
the fact that they not playin allowing the coach to see some new players who may be a better fit or jus as good as the ones u mention.
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Definitely not more than 5 it is unfair to the locally based players who were training and playing for their country all the time while some other cutting style to wear national colours and if maturana find young players like Gay and Adams earn their chance to play on June 15th over players twice their age I have no problem. It is class and skill that should be taken in to consideration and not a second class name in Europe (Kenwenye Jones is not included). :beermug:
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Definitely not more than 5 it is unfair to the locally based players who were training and playing for their country all the time while some other cutting style to wear national colours and if maturana find young players like Gay and Adams earn their chance to play on June 15th over players twice their age I have no problem. It is class and skill that should be taken in to consideration and not a second class name in Europe (Kenwenye Jones is not included). :beermug:
I agree with most ah yuh post except the bold (an d lipstick) - ah wouldn't call dem not playing "cuttin style" , but prefer Azzuri's...the present/last selctions, and the most in-form foreign invitees, an Mat pick the best from the group
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Birchall
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Birchall
How he hamstring ? he lightin up the Reserves ? he score some real bullet on somebody ? he passin, tacklin and running even better than last year ? Why Birchall ? Why not " the name we cyah mention" ?
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Birchall
How he hamstring ? he lightin up the Reserves ? he score some real bullet on somebody ? he passin, tacklin and running even better than last year ? Why Birchall ? Why not " the name we cyah mention" ?
:( :'(
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Birchall
How he hamstring ? he lightin up the Reserves ? he score some real bullet on somebody ? he passin, tacklin and running even better than last year ? Why Birchall ? Why not " the name we cyah mention" ?
ah might be wrong, but for some reason ah think Birchall is not playing for more reasons than football on the field...could be JW, could be because he is English and playing for ah small island country...ah doh know just speculating... ???
Big Up!
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Birchall is a good player. We saw his ability and hard work in many games in the last WC. His ability also to send a scorcher towards goal - and score. He needs a look. I don't think that we should start off by asking how many foreign-based or local-based should play on the team. We need to call as many players as are willing to play and pick the best team, whether foreign or local. But I also think that Maturana's decision to look at young players is wise as
1. WC is still two years away
2. If some players get injurd as is likely, he can go to players he has already seen and know their potential.
BTW, don't forget Julius James could be a Godsend in our often fragile back line.
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Birchall
How he hamstring ? he lightin up the Reserves ? he score some real bullet on somebody ? he passin, tacklin and running even better than last year ? Why Birchall ? Why not " the name we cyah mention" ?
Reserves: Coventry City 5 Port Vale 0 (http://www.ccfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveNews/0,,10269~1273777,00.html)
Posted on: Tue 25 Mar 2008
Ironically, it was Birchall who gave the Sky Blues the lead in the opening stages.
West Bromwich Albion Reserves 2 - 2 Coventry City Reserves (http://www.ccfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10269~1268063,00.html)
Posted on: Tue 18 Mar 2008
Wayne Andrews had a shot from a Birchall cross blocked by Danek. The ball was worked back to Ellery Cairo who drilled low into the net from the edge of the area.
Reserves beat Oldham (http://www.ccfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveNews/0,,10269~1251866,00.html)
Posted on: Wed 27 Feb 2008
The Sky Blues took the lead after just three minutes thanks to a goal from Chris Birchall.
RESERVES: Coventry City 2 Leicester City 2 (http://www.ccfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveNews/0,,10269~1233177,00.html)
Posted on: Tue 05 Feb 2008
Goals from Chris Birchall and Wayne Andrews secured a point for Coventry City as they drew 2-2 with Leicester City on Tuesday afternoon.
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Kevin Thornton saw his shot tipped wide by the keeper on 23 minutes, before three minutes later, the Irishman's shot was not held by keeper Paul Henderson and the ball fell for the advancing Birchall, who finished from close range.
The second half was as level as the first and DJ Campbell saw his shot deflected over just after the hour before at the other end, Cairo played an excellent ball into Birchall, who saw the keeper save at his feet.
On 71 minutes, the Sky Blues made it 2-1. After an excellent one-two with Birchall, Thornton slipped the ball through to Andrews, who finished well past the keeper for the lead.
Reserves held by Walsall (http://www.ccfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveNews/0,,10269~1210290,00.html)
Posted on: Thu 10 Jan 2008
Simpson got the Sky Blues off to a dream start when Simpson slotted home from 12-yards after latching onto a flick from Birchall.
Birchall then curled a free-kick into the arms of Saddlers keeper Bertrand Bossu before another set-piece from the former Port Vale man was pushed away.
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[color=Pink]Definitely not more than 5 it is unfair to the locally based players who were training and playing for their country all the time while some other cutting style to wear national colours and if maturana find young players like Gay and Adams earn their chance to play on June 15th over players twice their age I have no problem. It is class and skill that should be taken in to consideration and not a second class name in Europe (Kenwenye Jones is not included). :beermug:
With all due respect , but emotions and setiment ain't have nothing to do with national football. leave that for fete match and SSFL. the foriegn based did not refuse to play for us , it's the TTFF who exempted them from national duty, it's not like they refuse to play and the local based picked up the slack.
no disrespect to the local based , but them boys can't handle them giants like USA, Mexico, Hunduras, Canada, JA , and TICO'S. them boys met an experimental JA team , man like camble ryce , fuller and gardener, wasn't there so don't base it on that. the foreign based must participate and in the overwhelming majority.
My team
C. Ince OSie Telesford, D.lawrence. marvin Andrews. C. gray
J. williams.
mids. C. Edwards daryll Roberts. Aurtis Whitley. khaleem Hyland.
FOR. K. jones. stern John . ( jason Scottland.)
subs. (D) Akile Edwards. kenyo Thomas. silvio Span. nigel Daniels.
(M) K. Danials. L peltier. D Theobald. J. Marcano.
(F) R. patterson. S. Sealy. C. Glenn.
POSITIVE.
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I say none we can see how effective d local base was JW say man who was discarded by d previous staff scoring plus d same previous coach say dey wasn't good now we seein different. I all 4 a total local campaign. No need 4 d foreign base.
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not because a man like sancho who does not have a club should just get leave out. He might be plenty better than the local based still.
you talking about a man who start all the world cup games so everthing have to be considered.
it is not like we is France and picking man based on form.
we need to bring back all we players and see where they are,
jones score one goal for the year, you go leave him out?
carlos play like 2 games you go leave him out?
bring back everybody
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KND meh boi if yuh heard JW on I95 Sancho eh coming back 2 play. Stern and all may see trouble. I say go total local. Dem locals eh join FPATT so d go do JW bidding
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KND meh boi if yuh heard JW on I95 Sancho eh coming back 2 play. Stern and all may see trouble. I say go total local. Dem locals eh join FPATT so d go do JW bidding
Weary i not in that nah!!! if is ah overwelming local team then i not wasting meh time to even talk WCQ football with T&T, let alone watch a solitary game, BC that go bring back to much bad memories of us getting wacked by teams i fackin hate with a passion , like mexico and stinkin costa rica. WHO THE FACK HAVE TIME FOR THAT BULL SHYT AGAIN!! stuuueeepppsss.
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not because a man like sancho who does not have a club should just get leave out. He might be plenty better than the local based still.
you talking about a man who start all the world cup games so everthing have to be considered.
it is not like we is France and picking man based on form.
we need to bring back all we players and see where they are,
jones score one goal for the year, you go leave him out?
carlos play like 2 games you go leave him out?
bring back everybody
When last Sancho kick ball fuh a team?
Besides....de reality is....Jackula does say who eligible and who not and right now....accordin to Jackula, Sancho NOT ELIGIBLE fuh T&T.
Jackula seh dem fellas too ole. He call out Shaka and Sancho (alldoh he claim to fuhget Sancho name) specifically.
Watch sharp....Stern mightn't get call needah.
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Exactamundo Palos
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Nah let me bring things into some perspective here.
The young fellas play decent and we can groom them but June too close...and England too strong.
the lil 16yr old left back was eaten up by Marshall and all the English wingers will tear him up.
Daniel decent but he ent ready yet. Same as Hyland.
All these players are good potential due to their age but they need more experience. More competive games, more fitness and more size on their frame...plus good habits...(hard to get in TT but not impossible)
Also while I find the youths play good....this was relative to the opposition at hand.
They still in form 1 but looking good to make the jump and go to form 3 special stream class...they ent pass O or A levels yet and the TT team as a whole now repeat A levels and looking to see if they could do better..... With a new form teacher and the same principal.
We cannot expect the fellas to sit the exam and pass one time...they need practice tests...and they need advice from the older ones...to pass on their old notes and give them past papers etc.
So essentially they can be brought up to speed to match the rest of the class, while some drop out, some get penalised and some just cant make the grade.
This subject different....in that once you ent practicing you does lose it fast...also if you doing yuh remedial and extra lessons in a 2 x 4 class you will not be prepared properly.
Also too man gettin injured. So my thing is this....have plenty lil spot quiz and small exam...that way when the finals come on June 1st men go be ready. When the new term start with the opening exam Bermuda 101 we go be ready.
I am for the strongest team possible and the hopefuls as bench players.
Ince is my keeper. Jan Michael, Durance and Marvin Phillip to battle for 2 and 3.
Avery still cyar be replaced as a left back...Cyd is still my starter once he foot heal. Nigel Daniel have a free kick and been tru the wars.
Tallest have to play and one of the new center backs to play with him to learn..Hislop, Thomas and yes Atiba Charles still useful.
Call back the swansea fella...Kevin Austin..try him for a game.
Call back Boucaud and Shakes...even self for a game.
The other fellas in Belgium with the keeper...see if they could try a thing.
BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
Carlos, Darryl, Sealy, the new fella Patterson, Glenn and I calling back Hardest to show us some passing..just 1-2 games to see if he ketch heself.
Stern is a must. He will pot goals. He still doing it and is among the top scorers in his division with little or no service.
Whitley.
Scotland
I liked a fella from Gold Cup..Romauld Aguillera why he never get another chance even though he was one of the better men on the field.
Trent Noel was handling it.
Give Tinto a chance.
It harsh to say this but we could rest a few men...Samuel, Theobold, Spann, Power, Dwayne Jack, Toussaint could hold strain.
I think we all know who cutting the mustard and who shitting dong they tail. Everybody get they Charity sweat and they ent have no time left for man to Improve or play themselves into the role.
After Bermuda is USA, Guatemala and Cuba. We cyar lapse...all of those games is a moment of brilliance and hard teamwork to grind out a result. We ent winning none comfortably, but our pedigree players will have the "mental" advantage over our opponents. Kenwyne is the player all the other teams going and do homework on...he will put fear into them....that is why...Stern go poison them quiet..or Scotland or Roberts.
Foreign based for me still.....once them fellas get a week or 5 days training they will be potent, the locals still not up to par.
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Touchesina world without JW etal u would b spot on. However as dey around it go b a short ride dis time around.
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Williams
Cupid Telesford James N. Daniel
Whitley
Edwards K. Daniel
Roberts
Jones John
Phillips
K. Thomas
Williams
Tinto
Hyland
Scotland
Samuel
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BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
thank you :beermug:
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Williams
Cupid Telesford James N. Daniel
Whitley
Edwards K. Daniel
Roberts
Jones John
Phillips
K. Thomas
Williams
Tinto
Hyland
Scotland
Samuel
I ent mad at dat line-up. I'd rather have Tallest (if he available) and Keyeno in central defence fuh de experience, but the rest look like something I would go with.
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BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
thank you :beermug:
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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Nah let me bring things into some perspective here.
The young fellas play decent and we can groom them but June too close...and England too strong.
the lil 16yr old left back was eaten up by Marshall and all the English wingers will tear him up.
Daniel decent but he ent ready yet. Same as Hyland.
All these players are good potential due to their age but they need more experience. More competive games, more fitness and more size on their frame...plus good habits...(hard to get in TT but not impossible)
Also while I find the youths play good....this was relative to the opposition at hand.
They still in form 1 but looking good to make the jump and go to form 3 special stream class...they ent pass O or A levels yet and the TT team as a whole now repeat A levels and looking to see if they could do better..... With a new form teacher and the same principal.
We cannot expect the fellas to sit the exam and pass one time...they need practice tests...and they need advice from the older ones...to pass on their old notes and give them past papers etc.
So essentially they can be brought up to speed to match the rest of the class, while some drop out, some get penalised and some just cant make the grade.
This subject different....in that once you ent practicing you does lose it fast...also if you doing yuh remedial and extra lessons in a 2 x 4 class you will not be prepared properly.
Also too man gettin injured. So my thing is this....have plenty lil spot quiz and small exam...that way when the finals come on June 1st men go be ready. When the new term start with the opening exam Bermuda 101 we go be ready.
I am for the strongest team possible and the hopefuls as bench players.
Ince is my keeper. Jan Michael, Durance and Marvin Phillip to battle for 2 and 3.
Avery still cyar be replaced as a left back...Cyd is still my starter once he foot heal. Nigel Daniel have a free kick and been tru the wars.
Tallest have to play and one of the new center backs to play with him to learn..Hislop, Thomas and yes Atiba Charles still useful.
Call back the swansea fella...Kevin Austin..try him for a game.
Call back Boucaud and Shakes...even self for a game.
The other fellas in Belgium with the keeper...see if they could try a thing.
BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
Carlos, Darryl, Sealy, the new fella Patterson, Glenn and I calling back Hardest to show us some passing..just 1-2 games to see if he ketch heself.
Stern is a must. He will pot goals. He still doing it and is among the top scorers in his division with little or no service.
Whitley.
Scotland
I liked a fella from Gold Cup..Romauld Aguillera why he never get another chance even though he was one of the better men on the field.
Trent Noel was handling it.
Give Tinto a chance.
It harsh to say this but we could rest a few men...Samuel, Theobold, Spann, Power, Dwayne Jack, Toussaint could hold strain.
I think we all know who cutting the mustard and who shitting dong they tail. Everybody get they Charity sweat and they ent have no time left for man to Improve or play themselves into the role.
After Bermuda is USA, Guatemala and Cuba. We cyar lapse...all of those games is a moment of brilliance and hard teamwork to grind out a result. We ent winning none comfortably, but our pedigree players will have the "mental" advantage over our opponents. Kenwyne is the player all the other teams going and do homework on...he will put fear into them....that is why...Stern go poison them quiet..or Scotland or Roberts.
Foreign based for me still.....once them fellas get a week or 5 days training they will be potent, the locals still not up to par.
Hold some perspective here.
1 - Cyd Gray & Seon Power BADLY injured. Yuh eh seein dem in action till maybe 2009
2 - When last Avery play a competitive match? Yeah he experienced but if he not playin, he cyah jes ups so and waltz een de team. He eh DAT good or de replacements eh DAT bad.
3 - Kevin Austin? Ricky Shakes? Hardest? Andre Boucaud? WTF? When last Hardest train? Wit who? Nex ting u go be tellin we bring back Faustin. Ah mean..if yuh bringin foreign base...bring men who PLAYIN nah. Even if dey mostly ridin pine like Theobald.
4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
5 - Wit Latas and Yorke playin, de England match is a quasi fete match wit de MAIN PURPOSE bein to generate de highest price of admission EVER for a football game in T&T. Preparation fuh de WCQ against Bermuda is incidental. Hell...Jackula might even give McComie a run.
6 - Aguilera is a good shout.
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KND meh boi if yuh heard JW on I95 Sancho eh coming back 2 play. Stern and all may see trouble. I say go total local. Dem locals eh join FPATT so d go do JW bidding
Weary i not in that nah!!! if is ah overwelming local team then i not wasting meh time to even talk WCQ football with T&T, let alone watch a solitary game, BC that go bring back to much bad memories of us getting wacked by teams i fackin hate with a passion , like mexico and stinkin costa rica. WHO THE FACK HAVE TIME FOR THAT BULL SHYT AGAIN!! stuuueeepppsss.
Just Cool,
could I go off on a tangent here if you dont mind?
What if people from Mexico and Costa Rica came on this forum and started spewing all kinds of shit, would you treat them like how some on here treat the SILLY posters from Jamaica?
Just asking eh?
not ALL posters from Jamaica spew garbage eh and not ALL get picong and heckle
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Touches dread, you couldna find something else to compare the man first touch to? lord have mercy...
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Nah let me bring things into some perspective here.
The young fellas play decent and we can groom them but June too close...and England too strong.
the lil 16yr old left back was eaten up by Marshall and all the English wingers will tear him up.
Daniel decent but he ent ready yet. Same as Hyland.
All these players are good potential due to their age but they need more experience. More competive games, more fitness and more size on their frame...plus good habits...(hard to get in TT but not impossible)
Also while I find the youths play good....this was relative to the opposition at hand.
They still in form 1 but looking good to make the jump and go to form 3 special stream class...they ent pass O or A levels yet and the TT team as a whole now repeat A levels and looking to see if they could do better..... With a new form teacher and the same principal.
We cannot expect the fellas to sit the exam and pass one time...they need practice tests...and they need advice from the older ones...to pass on their old notes and give them past papers etc.
So essentially they can be brought up to speed to match the rest of the class, while some drop out, some get penalised and some just cant make the grade.
This subject different....in that once you ent practicing you does lose it fast...also if you doing yuh remedial and extra lessons in a 2 x 4 class you will not be prepared properly.
Also too man gettin injured. So my thing is this....have plenty lil spot quiz and small exam...that way when the finals come on June 1st men go be ready. When the new term start with the opening exam Bermuda 101 we go be ready.
I am for the strongest team possible and the hopefuls as bench players.
Ince is my keeper. Jan Michael, Durance and Marvin Phillip to battle for 2 and 3.
Avery still cyar be replaced as a left back...Cyd is still my starter once he foot heal. Nigel Daniel have a free kick and been tru the wars.
Tallest have to play and one of the new center backs to play with him to learn..Hislop, Thomas and yes Atiba Charles still useful.
Call back the swansea fella...Kevin Austin..try him for a game.
Call back Boucaud and Shakes...even self for a game.
The other fellas in Belgium with the keeper...see if they could try a thing.
BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
Carlos, Darryl, Sealy, the new fella Patterson, Glenn and I calling back Hardest to show us some passing..just 1-2 games to see if he ketch heself.
Stern is a must. He will pot goals. He still doing it and is among the top scorers in his division with little or no service.
Whitley.
Scotland
I liked a fella from Gold Cup..Romauld Aguillera why he never get another chance even though he was one of the better men on the field.
Trent Noel was handling it.
Give Tinto a chance.
It harsh to say this but we could rest a few men...Samuel, Theobold, Spann, Power, Dwayne Jack, Toussaint could hold strain.
I think we all know who cutting the mustard and who shitting dong they tail. Everybody get they Charity sweat and they ent have no time left for man to Improve or play themselves into the role.
After Bermuda is USA, Guatemala and Cuba. We cyar lapse...all of those games is a moment of brilliance and hard teamwork to grind out a result. We ent winning none comfortably, but our pedigree players will have the "mental" advantage over our opponents. Kenwyne is the player all the other teams going and do homework on...he will put fear into them....that is why...Stern go poison them quiet..or Scotland or Roberts.
Foreign based for me still.....once them fellas get a week or 5 days training they will be potent, the locals still not up to par.
Hold some perspective here.
1 - Cyd Gray & Seon Power BADLY injured. Yuh eh seein dem in action till maybe 2009
2 - When last Avery play a competitive match? Yeah he experienced but if he not playin, he cyah jes ups so and waltz een de team. He eh DAT good or de replacements eh DAT bad.
3 - Kevin Austin? Ricky Shakes? Hardest? Andre Boucaud? WTF? When last Hardest train? Wit who? Nex ting u go be tellin we bring back Faustin. Ah mean..if yuh bringin foreign base...bring men who PLAYIN nah. Even if dey mostly ridin pine like Theobald.
4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
5 - Wit Latas and Yorke playin, de England match is a quasi fete match wit de MAIN PURPOSE bein to generate de highest price of admission EVER for a football game in T&T. Preparation fuh de WCQ against Bermuda is incidental. Hell...Jackula might even give McComie a run.
6 - Aguilera is a good shout.
Like allyuh forgetting one major thing! is years the trial and error senario was playing out in this national team. like yuh eh understand that we finally got it right through trial and error!! and now that we finally got it right!! allyuh want to start over with ah new batch !! word to the wise, never change ah winning team!! if allyuh miss heart break hotel and want to check in for the campagn then be my guess, i will stay far.
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KND meh boi if yuh heard JW on I95 Sancho eh coming back 2 play. Stern and all may see trouble. I say go total local. Dem locals eh join FPATT so d go do JW bidding
Weary i not in that nah!!! if is ah overwelming local team then i not wasting meh time to even talk WCQ football with T&T, let alone watch a solitary game, BC that go bring back to much bad memories of us getting wacked by teams i fackin hate with a passion , like mexico and stinkin costa rica. WHO THE FACK HAVE TIME FOR THAT BULL SHYT AGAIN!! stuuueeepppsss.
Just Cool,
could I go off on a tangent here if you dont mind?
What if people from Mexico and Costa Rica came on this forum and started spewing all kinds of shit, would you treat them like how some on here treat the SILLY posters from Jamaica?
Just asking eh?
not ALL posters from Jamaica spew garbage eh and not ALL get picong and heckle
With all due respect WC, they would be totally out of order to come on and T&T forum talking smack. i on the other hand was well within my rights.
i'm not saying this on their forum, and will never be so disruptive to even try, i don't even have an intrest in dialoging or reaching out to them whether negative or positivly.
but to answer your question, i probably would not resort to name calling and lowering my self to a level of buffoonry, but i would be totally offened and may react with some hostility, but i would not insult their nationality since that's not my style.
PS: i don't hate mexicans or costa ricians, i just hate their football team beating up on us for decades. it's a football hate, nothing more, just like most soca warriors hate the US soccer team. positive.
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Just cool all ah we agree wit u. Is just in d present scenario I done start 2 pick d cruise because I would b using any SA2010 savings 4 dat.
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I did like 2006 Birchall, but ah have no clue, what 2008 Birchie look like, ah hear he even playing ah lot ah upfront now...we full dey...
at least Tallest fightin fairly regular even doh he comin back from injury...he playing 1st Team for a top low division team....Birch not playin reserves for/against Man U or some Premier reserves, he playing reserves against - Port Vale & WBA Reserves...Port Vale...who 1st team in last place div1...Best he ask for ah sabitical an come play 1st Team ball for Jab. and get some acclimatisation and run some Hololo, because he not going to get selected based on the last year experience...Is not like he was a big player for France, Brazil or Cameroon an he coming back, he was on the team for 1 thing, hustle...observe how many lower divisions play forward, we dun have plenty of those...Reality gettin in the way of not just his selection, but his call...point finale... Yet Birch Young & Strong, and he could easily run himself on the Team if he put he mind to it, later this or next year, as long as he fix his business..ah call go be in order..other than dat, me doh how Mat feel bout "ole pardner" ting, me ,ah cyah deal with the fren ting, especially with other ppl business, an man right dey, wukkin dey arse off for d wuk for nuthen
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I looking at it from this perspective.....games on June 1...15....22. 3 Games within a month. The England Game is a high profile one....so i cant see much fringe players getting a look in. The Bermuda game is important...but we can use this time to see what we working with...if the blend of local and foreign is done right. Fact is certain men have assets we cannot overlook. Is just a proper blend of everything we need.
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but to answer your question, i probably would not resort to name calling and lowering my self to a level of buffoonry, but i would be totally offened and may react with some hostility, but i would not insult their nationality since that's not my style.
PS: i don't hate mexicans or costa ricians, i just hate their football team beating up on us for decades. it's a football hate. just like most soca warriors hate the US soccer team. positive.
OK thanks for answering
some people like to picong and heckle....and I must admit ,sometimes they do go over board
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Nah let me bring things into some perspective here.
The young fellas play decent and we can groom them but June too close...and England too strong.
the lil 16yr old left back was eaten up by Marshall and all the English wingers will tear him up.
Daniel decent but he ent ready yet. Same as Hyland.
All these players are good potential due to their age but they need more experience. More competive games, more fitness and more size on their frame...plus good habits...(hard to get in TT but not impossible)
Also while I find the youths play good....this was relative to the opposition at hand.
They still in form 1 but looking good to make the jump and go to form 3 special stream class...they ent pass O or A levels yet and the TT team as a whole now repeat A levels and looking to see if they could do better..... With a new form teacher and the same principal.
We cannot expect the fellas to sit the exam and pass one time...they need practice tests...and they need advice from the older ones...to pass on their old notes and give them past papers etc.
So essentially they can be brought up to speed to match the rest of the class, while some drop out, some get penalised and some just cant make the grade.
This subject different....in that once you ent practicing you does lose it fast...also if you doing yuh remedial and extra lessons in a 2 x 4 class you will not be prepared properly.
Also too man gettin injured. So my thing is this....have plenty lil spot quiz and small exam...that way when the finals come on June 1st men go be ready. When the new term start with the opening exam Bermuda 101 we go be ready.
I am for the strongest team possible and the hopefuls as bench players.
Ince is my keeper. Jan Michael, Durance and Marvin Phillip to battle for 2 and 3.
Avery still cyar be replaced as a left back...Cyd is still my starter once he foot heal. Nigel Daniel have a free kick and been tru the wars.
Tallest have to play and one of the new center backs to play with him to learn..Hislop, Thomas and yes Atiba Charles still useful.
Call back the swansea fella...Kevin Austin..try him for a game.
Call back Boucaud and Shakes...even self for a game.
The other fellas in Belgium with the keeper...see if they could try a thing.
BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
Carlos, Darryl, Sealy, the new fella Patterson, Glenn and I calling back Hardest to show us some passing..just 1-2 games to see if he ketch heself.
Stern is a must. He will pot goals. He still doing it and is among the top scorers in his division with little or no service.
Whitley.
Scotland
I liked a fella from Gold Cup..Romauld Aguillera why he never get another chance even though he was one of the better men on the field.
Trent Noel was handling it.
Give Tinto a chance.
It harsh to say this but we could rest a few men...Samuel, Theobold, Spann, Power, Dwayne Jack, Toussaint could hold strain.
I think we all know who cutting the mustard and who shitting dong they tail. Everybody get they Charity sweat and they ent have no time left for man to Improve or play themselves into the role.
After Bermuda is USA, Guatemala and Cuba. We cyar lapse...all of those games is a moment of brilliance and hard teamwork to grind out a result. We ent winning none comfortably, but our pedigree players will have the "mental" advantage over our opponents. Kenwyne is the player all the other teams going and do homework on...he will put fear into them....that is why...Stern go poison them quiet..or Scotland or Roberts.
Foreign based for me still.....once them fellas get a week or 5 days training they will be potent, the locals still not up to par.
Hold some perspective here.
1 - Cyd Gray & Seon Power BADLY injured. Yuh eh seein dem in action till maybe 2009
2 - When last Avery play a competitive match? Yeah he experienced but if he not playin, he cyah jes ups so and waltz een de team. He eh DAT good or de replacements eh DAT bad.
3 - Kevin Austin? Ricky Shakes? Hardest? Andre Boucaud? WTF? When last Hardest train? Wit who? Nex ting u go be tellin we bring back Faustin. Ah mean..if yuh bringin foreign base...bring men who PLAYIN nah. Even if dey mostly ridin pine like Theobald.
4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
5 - Wit Latas and Yorke playin, de England match is a quasi fete match wit de MAIN PURPOSE bein to generate de highest price of admission EVER for a football game in T&T. Preparation fuh de WCQ against Bermuda is incidental. Hell...Jackula might even give McComie a run.
6 - Aguilera is a good shout.
u know what does get me, when beenie was in charge they didnt say he was shit, or at least to his face, the man save we ass when we was losing to Bahrain, sometimes yuh wonder what a man have to do to prove himself, ah just hope by some twist of faith they give the man a call, at least give d man a chance.
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Remember he was found in d streets of London d adviser say so. So since then he back 2 being a vagrant in London. We don't need him no more we have d local flavour u know like Royal Castle pepper sauce
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Remember he was found in d streets of London d adviser say so. So since then he back 2 being a vagrant in London. We don't need him no more we have d local flavour u know like Royal Castle pepper sauce
Birchall was really we lucky charm, the fella brought good luck to a hexed country. i tip my hat off to the guy, after all, he did what most men before him failed to do. (and that's score a goal in a detrimental game.)
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Remember he was found in d streets of London d adviser say so. So since then he back 2 being a vagrant in London. We don't need him no more we have d local flavour u know like Royal Castle pepper sauce
weary give de man some repect nah, he played his heart out for us. it had to be real hard for him to play against England in the WC.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I does try to be a gentleman to you and other fellas on this site who love to insult man for their veiws, but it seem like allyuh doh like to return the favor, anyway i will not entertain you and your hogish style fella with an equally rude remark, since yuh so rudely dismiss my coments as jackasness instead of seeing the logic and truth behind it.
but let me ask yuh this. if the team that went to JA looked like this, how would you class it. = Ince, telesford, thomas, A edwards, spann, (M) C. edwards, D. roberts, A whitley, D theobald, (F) K. jones S. john. how would you class this team? as an ABCDEFG team, mind you jamaica was without 5 of their top players so i add four of ours to breach the gap, would you still call this a rookie team.
JA was without camble ryce, ricardo fuller , ian goodison, R. Gardener, all tip top player, plus they took off malon king and luton shelton who was running rings around our defence and didn't have an answer for them, and replace them with rookies to get a look at them.
if they wanted they could've pressured us to the very end if winning was their only purpose, but simone was trouble shooting just like maturana and cappello.
so is you who don't know what your'e talking bout cause if you knew you wouldn't make such an emotional statment.not taking nothing away from we youths , they worked hard and faught their way back in the game, but JA coulda beat we easy if that was their sole intention, can't you see that!! if they really wanted to win then why take off marlon king the captain and best goal threat and other players who stood their ground, for rookies.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I swear if we take that defence to concacaf WCQ and if we do get passed bermuda we not getting out the second round. did you watch the GC at all fella, didn't you see how donavon was blowing pass them rookies like murice green.
steeuupppsss you must think maturana is ah magician to make that inexperience rookie defence ready by sept. we just had a defence that made it damn near impossible for top players like larsen, ibrahimavich, junberg, roney , owen, and roccue santa cruz to score on we, so why take ah rookie team before them when is time for them to take us to the 2010 WC.
If they taking this green defence to concacaf i not supporting at all!!!! why start over when nothings wrong with what we've got. jack and camps really love to swing from ppl stones yes boy, no disrespect to the youths, but yuh think them nashy tin foot mal nourished school boys able with them big strong quick americans canadians and costa ricians. look at more heart break for tinibagonians. LOUD!!!!!! fackin steeeuuupppsss!!!
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I does try to be a gentleman to you and other fellas on this site who love to insult man for their veiws, but it seem like allyuh doh like to return the favor, anyway i will not entertain you and your hogish style fella with an equally rude remark, since yuh so rudely dismiss my coments as jackasness instead of seeing the logic and truth behind it.
but let me ask yuh this. if the team that went to JA looked like this, how would you class it. = Ince, telesford, thomas, A edwards, spann, (M) C. edwards, D. roberts, A whitley, D theobald, (F) K. jones S. john. how would you class this team? as an ABCDEFG team, mind you jamaica was without 5 of their top players so i add four of ours to breach the gap, would you still call this a rookie team.
JA was without camble ryce, ricardo fuller , ian goodison, R. Gardener, all tip top player, plus they took off malon king and luton shelton who was running rings around our defence and didn't have an answer for them, and replace them with rookies to get a look at them.
if they wanted they could've pressured us to the very end if winning was their only purpose, but simone was trouble shooting just like maturana and cappello.
so is you who don't know what your'e talking bout cause if you knew you wouldn't make such an emotional statment.not taking nothing away from we youths , they worked hard and faught their way back in the game, but JA coulda beat we easy if that was their sole intention, can't you see that!! if they really wanted to win then why take off marlon king the captain and best goal threat and other players who stood their ground, for rookies.
I did not insult you personally I just said that the statement of Jamaica playing a week team was a jackass statement.
What is different to what I said with the team you described ?
I would not pick Theobald to begin with, Spann not playing regularly and Stern (I'm a big supporter) is probably surplus when you look at Daryll and Randi Patterson.
But back to the Jamaican team. True some of their overseas weren't available but they still were almost at full strenght, football is not as simple as putting star players together and expecting results and from what i saw of the Jamaican team they looked the way they always look when it's their best team.
The big difference was the Trinidad team, this team of youths kept running and kept their shape, a lot of the passes were intercepted by the Jamaicans but the team made up for that by recovering the ball or forcing wild shots fronm the JA. Also the boys did not have a problem with going forward although in the 1st half a little too much long ball was used.
The result from the game was not because of 2 stupid goals that JA gave away but because of some excellent technical work, hard running, a self belief and teamwork.
I'm saying that we don't have to look too far from this team to get to a point where we seriously challenge the best in CONCACAF.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I swear if we take that defence to concacaf WCQ and if we do get passed bermuda we not getting out the second round. did you watch the GC at all fella, didn't you see how donavon was blowing pass them rookies like murice green.
steeuupppsss you must think maturana is ah magician to make that inexperience rookie defence ready by sept. we just had a defence that made it damn near impossible for top players like larsen, ibrahimavich, junberg, roney , owen, and roccue santa cruz to score on we, so why take ah rookie team before them when is time for them to take us to the 2010 WC.
If they taking this green defence to concacaf i not supporting at all!!!! why start over when nothings wrong with what we've got. jack and camps really love to swing from ppl stones yes boy, no disrespect to the youths, but yuh think them nashy tin foot mal nourished school boys able with them big strong quick americans canadians and costa ricians. look at more heart break for tinibagonians. LOUD!!!!!! fackin steeeuuupppsss!!!
Whether you support them or not ent going to change nothing.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I swear if we take that defence to concacaf WCQ and if we do get passed bermuda we not getting out the second round. did you watch the GC at all fella, didn't you see how donavon was blowing pass them rookies like murice green.
steeuupppsss you must think maturana is ah magician to make that inexperience rookie defence ready by sept. we just had a defence that made it damn near impossible for top players like larsen, ibrahimavich, junberg, roney , owen, and roccue santa cruz to score on we, so why take ah rookie team before them when is time for them to take us to the 2010 WC.
If they taking this green defence to concacaf i not supporting at all!!!! why start over when nothings wrong with what we've got. jack and camps really love to swing from ppl stones yes boy, no disrespect to the youths, but yuh think them nashy tin foot mal nourished school boys able with them big strong quick americans canadians and costa ricians. look at more heart break for tinibagonians. LOUD!!!!!! fackin steeeuuupppsss!!!
Whether you support them or not ent going to change nothing.
Well go brave nah hero, i go be here with the kleenex waiting.
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4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
u know what does get me, when beenie was in charge they didnt say he was shit, or at least to his face, the man save we ass when we was losing to Bahrain, sometimes yuh wonder what a man have to do to prove himself, ah just hope by some twist of faith they give the man a call, at least give d man a chance.
Actually breddrin, Alvin did say Birchie was not good enough to be a national player and that there were several local based players who were better than him. Repeatedly. During commentaries on the game and afterwards in interviews.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I swear if we take that defence to concacaf WCQ and if we do get passed bermuda we not getting out the second round. did you watch the GC at all fella, didn't you see how donavon was blowing pass them rookies like murice green.
steeuupppsss you must think maturana is ah magician to make that inexperience rookie defence ready by sept. we just had a defence that made it damn near impossible for top players like larsen, ibrahimavich, junberg, roney , owen, and roccue santa cruz to score on we, so why take ah rookie team before them when is time for them to take us to the 2010 WC.
If they taking this green defence to concacaf i not supporting at all!!!! why start over when nothings wrong with what we've got. jack and camps really love to swing from ppl stones yes boy, no disrespect to the youths, but yuh think them nashy tin foot mal nourished school boys able with them big strong quick americans canadians and costa ricians. look at more heart break for tinibagonians. LOUD!!!!!! fackin steeeuuupppsss!!!
Whether you support them or not ent going to change nothing.
Well go brave nah hero, i go be here with the kleenex waiting.
One last thing on the defence, the last WC team's defence was made up of now aging men, Tallest, Sancho, Gray, Dog et al.
Beenie pack the side with defensive midfielders to protect them, this time around the defenders might be young and magga foot but at leats they young.
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With blacklist, injuries retirement, club vs country commitments etc.
I would pick an almost West Atlantic team with the exception of KJ, Carlos and Ince.
Maturana prove that he could take local based and do something with them.
The defense against Jamaica look good and contrary to the jackassness justcool talking it was a strong Jamaican team.
Maturana have to keep his backline together so that they can grow and already the midfield taking shape with one exception, a ball distributer but I'm sure Maturana will sort that out ( maybe KJ could play behind 2 forwards and full that role).
All the hysteria about a almost total foriegn based team needed to take us to SA is nonsense.
The unfortunate thing about it , is that Jack going to end up looking vindicated.
I swear if we take that defence to concacaf WCQ and if we do get passed bermuda we not getting out the second round. did you watch the GC at all fella, didn't you see how donavon was blowing pass them rookies like murice green.
steeuupppsss you must think maturana is ah magician to make that inexperience rookie defence ready by sept. we just had a defence that made it damn near impossible for top players like larsen, ibrahimavich, junberg, roney , owen, and roccue santa cruz to score on we, so why take ah rookie team before them when is time for them to take us to the 2010 WC.
If they taking this green defence to concacaf i not supporting at all!!!! why start over when nothings wrong with what we've got. jack and camps really love to swing from ppl stones yes boy, no disrespect to the youths, but yuh think them nashy tin foot mal nourished school boys able with them big strong quick americans canadians and costa ricians. look at more heart break for tinibagonians. LOUD!!!!!! fackin steeeuuupppsss!!!
Whether you support them or not ent going to change nothing.
Well go brave nah hero, i go be here with the kleenex waiting.
One last thing on the defence, the last WC team's defence was made up of now aging men, Tallest, Sancho, Gray, Dog et al.
Beenie pack the side with defensive midfielders to protect them, this time around the defenders might be young and magga foot but at leats they young.
Slow and have no experience! and don't include brent & dog in that group, he's (dog) the best defender we had in ages , and he's only 32 , one year OLDER than stern.
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Slow and have no experience! and don't include brent & dog in that group, he's (dog) the best defender we had in ages , and he's only 32 , one year OLDER than stern.
Are you forgetting how bad our defence was ?
Every game almost you could bank on us getting a goal in the first 10 mins of a game.
How many times Dog got beaten for pace ?
We had the best defence at that time because Beenie made the entire midfield concentrate on defence and help out the backline.
None of the defense from the last WC figuring brother, time to move on.
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Our first game in WC qualifying is June 15th
Aurtis Whitley - Central Midfield
Carlos Edwards - Right Midfield
Khaleem Hyland - Left Midfield
Keon Daniel - Central Midfield
Kenwyne Jones - Striker
Jason Scotland - Striker
Seem to be the popular/logical choice in the middle and up front
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Our first game in WC qualifying is June 15th
Aurtis Whitley - Central Midfield
Carlos Edwards - Right Midfield
Khaleem Hyland - Left Midfield
Keon Daniel - Central Midfield
Kenwyne Jones - Striker
Jason Scotland - Striker
Seem to be the popular/logical choice in the middle and up front
Keon daniels who plays in the PFL over daryl roberts who plays in the eridivie and scores against teams like PSV and feynord who's comming up against harsh competitive teams the likes of ajax and twente week in week out, for a youth who play on the lowest level. that's mindboggling.
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Nah let me bring things into some perspective here.
The young fellas play decent and we can groom them but June too close...and England too strong.
the lil 16yr old left back was eaten up by Marshall and all the English wingers will tear him up.
Daniel decent but he ent ready yet. Same as Hyland.
All these players are good potential due to their age but they need more experience. More competive games, more fitness and more size on their frame...plus good habits...(hard to get in TT but not impossible)
Also while I find the youths play good....this was relative to the opposition at hand.
They still in form 1 but looking good to make the jump and go to form 3 special stream class...they ent pass O or A levels yet and the TT team as a whole now repeat A levels and looking to see if they could do better..... With a new form teacher and the same principal.
We cannot expect the fellas to sit the exam and pass one time...they need practice tests...and they need advice from the older ones...to pass on their old notes and give them past papers etc.
So essentially they can be brought up to speed to match the rest of the class, while some drop out, some get penalised and some just cant make the grade.
This subject different....in that once you ent practicing you does lose it fast...also if you doing yuh remedial and extra lessons in a 2 x 4 class you will not be prepared properly.
Also too man gettin injured. So my thing is this....have plenty lil spot quiz and small exam...that way when the finals come on June 1st men go be ready. When the new term start with the opening exam Bermuda 101 we go be ready.
I am for the strongest team possible and the hopefuls as bench players.
Ince is my keeper. Jan Michael, Durance and Marvin Phillip to battle for 2 and 3.
Avery still cyar be replaced as a left back...Cyd is still my starter once he foot heal. Nigel Daniel have a free kick and been tru the wars.
Tallest have to play and one of the new center backs to play with him to learn..Hislop, Thomas and yes Atiba Charles still useful.
Call back the swansea fella...Kevin Austin..try him for a game.
Call back Boucaud and Shakes...even self for a game.
The other fellas in Belgium with the keeper...see if they could try a thing.
BRING BACK BIRCHALL...yuh need he hustle, running back, tackling ability and long range bullet. Doe study if he first touch like a wall or a rapist. Other men with silky touch cyar do the other things he could do...one less ent go make a difference....Birchalls positives far outweigh the negative aspects of his game.
Carlos, Darryl, Sealy, the new fella Patterson, Glenn and I calling back Hardest to show us some passing..just 1-2 games to see if he ketch heself.
Stern is a must. He will pot goals. He still doing it and is among the top scorers in his division with little or no service.
Whitley.
Scotland
I liked a fella from Gold Cup..Romauld Aguillera why he never get another chance even though he was one of the better men on the field.
Trent Noel was handling it.
Give Tinto a chance.
It harsh to say this but we could rest a few men...Samuel, Theobold, Spann, Power, Dwayne Jack, Toussaint could hold strain.
I think we all know who cutting the mustard and who shitting dong they tail. Everybody get they Charity sweat and they ent have no time left for man to Improve or play themselves into the role.
After Bermuda is USA, Guatemala and Cuba. We cyar lapse...all of those games is a moment of brilliance and hard teamwork to grind out a result. We ent winning none comfortably, but our pedigree players will have the "mental" advantage over our opponents. Kenwyne is the player all the other teams going and do homework on...he will put fear into them....that is why...Stern go poison them quiet..or Scotland or Roberts.
Foreign based for me still.....once them fellas get a week or 5 days training they will be potent, the locals still not up to par.
Excellent post once yuh eliminate what i put in bold. To me, the key to our qualifications lies with Daryl Roberts and Carlos Edwards
Kenwyne Jones will be defended like crazy and Stern John will see real pressha since teams know about him.
Daryl is our most underestimated and underated player, i am telling you people, he is a gem. Carlos will be dangerous coming from a bit deeper, but he will also marked out to cut the supply line to jones and john!
With respect to the back line, Ince is the obvious choice, Tallest should add some experience but he should not be an automatic choice. I like the backline that played against Jamaica, keep them together and they will grow. The left back is a concern, but Avery John cannot be the answer since he aint playing anywhere
ah love it!!
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palos dont get tie up with this competive match thing.
I taking Sancho who training with some squad in UK trying to get a contract over a man playing day in and day out in the PFL.
Alyuh men trying to apply international rules to we squad which is not applicable.
Is not like we talking about chosing between Anelka who in form for Chelsea and trezeguet who might be getting bench for Juve.
You talking about picking Sancho, who currently has no contract and Keyno Thomas who playing for jabloteh, or Hislop who playing who knows where.
Your competitive match thing holds no water because we just bring back a few players who was on the " Warriors USA" team.
What is that a fete match side? What league them playing in.
Let we make sense here
You think a man who just get bump from a MLS squad and trying to make an A league can put in a better effort than a man like Sancho at this stage.
make Sense man
Let jack Warner and them come out and say x,y,z player get ban
As of now all I hear from Jack is there is no black list.
If Jack want to ban Sancho and kelvin Jack and Hislop because they are advocates of the FPATT them let him come out and say that.
As far as I concerned everybody still elligible to play.
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I would love to see Birchall called back but lets be honest right now - when was the last time he actually played first-team football?
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I couldn't read no more after Touches bawl de man first touch like a rapist! :rotfl:
I go lorse meh work here :rotfl:
ah go hadda come back and finish de rest :rotfl:
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I would love to see Birchall called back but lets be honest right now - when was the last time he actually played first-team football?
september 2 to December 1, January 12, February 16
Dat is more recent than anybody in the PFL
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K Thomas has been impressive so I don't think he getting put aside just so.
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4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
u know what does get me, when beenie was in charge they didnt say he was shit, or at least to his face, the man save we ass when we was losing to Bahrain, sometimes yuh wonder what a man have to do to prove himself, ah just hope by some twist of faith they give the man a call, at least give d man a chance.
Actually breddrin, Alvin did say Birchie was not good enough to be a national player and that there were several local based players who were better than him. Repeatedly. During commentaries on the game and afterwards in interviews.
i guess he must be was vex when he score against Bahrain lol :D
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4 - No argument here from me re: Birchall. However, de REALITY is dat Alvin find he is a shit hong and Alvin son is a coach on de national team, Maturana and Alvin is padnah, and Maturana go lissen if Alvin say he eh no good. So Birchie is toast.
u know what does get me, when beenie was in charge they didnt say he was shit, or at least to his face, the man save we ass when we was losing to Bahrain, sometimes yuh wonder what a man have to do to prove himself, ah just hope by some twist of faith they give the man a call, at least give d man a chance.
Actually breddrin, Alvin did say Birchie was not good enough to be a national player and that there were several local based players who were better than him. Repeatedly. During commentaries on the game and afterwards in interviews.
i guess he must be was vex when he score against Bahrain lol :D
Actually, DHW....he did say he was vex when he release de bullet against Bahrain...he just wanted to ease de frustration he was feeling....and take it out on de ball.... :) :beermug:
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JustCool, men just talking bredda. Yuh making real sense. I watched the Ash Wednesday game and not one of them young players ready. The potential is there, but not ready. Who in their right mind will pick players with potential to face players (England, USA, Mexico, Canada etc..) with who performing right now.
I listened to the El Salvador game and we weren't put under any true pressure. As it stands the USA Olympic team will hammer our senior team that just played Jamdown.
You will pick Akiel Edwards over Avery John? Makan Hislop over Brent Sancho? Hyland over Chris Birchall? Randi Patterson Over Scotland, Stern, Jones, John or Glen? Jan over Ince? Can't be serious.
Let's settle the matter with a game. Play the locals vs the Old, has been players and let's see the outcome. Everyone playing for their position.
Ince
? Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Spann
Stern JOnes
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Let's settle the matter with a game. Play the locals vs the Old, has been players and let's see the outcome. Everyone playing for their position.
Dat sound like a serious recipe for break foot...
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Che u obviously cyah recognize sarcasm. I would luv 2 see Birchall back in d RWB but I eh holdin meh breath
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JustCool, men just talking bredda. Yuh making real sense. I watched the Ash Wednesday game and not one of them young players ready. The potential is there, but not ready. Who in their right mind will pick players with potential to face players (England, USA, Mexico, Canada etc..) with who performing right now.
I listened to the El Salvador game and we weren't put under any true pressure. As it stands the USA Olympic team will hammer our senior team that just played Jamdown.
You will pick Akiel Edwards over Avery John? Makan Hislop over Brent Sancho? Hyland over Chris Birchall? Randi Patterson Over Scotland, Stern, Jones, John or Glen? Jan over Ince? Can't be serious.
Let's settle the matter with a game. Play the locals vs the Old, has been players and let's see the outcome. Everyone playing for their position.
Ince
? Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Spann
Stern JOnes
Boss team. :applause:
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JustCool, men just talking bredda. Yuh making real sense. I watched the Ash Wednesday game and not one of them young players ready. The potential is there, but not ready. Who in their right mind will pick players with potential to face players (England, USA, Mexico, Canada etc..) with who performing right now.
I listened to the El Salvador game and we weren't put under any true pressure. As it stands the USA Olympic team will hammer our senior team that just played Jamdown.
You will pick Akiel Edwards over Avery John? Makan Hislop over Brent Sancho? Hyland over Chris Birchall? Randi Patterson Over Scotland, Stern, Jones, John or Glen? Jan over Ince? Can't be serious.
Let's settle the matter with a game. Play the locals vs the Old, has been players and let's see the outcome. Everyone playing for their position.
Ince
? Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Spann
Stern JOnes
Boss team. :applause:
Spann? ::)
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Try this:-
Ince
Cyd Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Stern JOnes
Marv and Spann on the benh
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Allyuh being nostalgic.
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Try this:-
Ince
Cyd Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Stern JOnes
Marv and Spann on the benh
You self bro. U livin in T&T. U does go football.
U probably more dan anybody else in touch wit wha really goin on.
And u STILL pickin Cyd Gray when U KNOW he badly injured and cyah play fuh months?
U ALSO KNOW as long as Jackula breathin, eh no way Brent Sancho playin fuh T&T.
Whaz dah one horse?
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Allyuh being nostalgic.
EXACTLY!
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if spann can`t make that sh*t side we no call up for he forget sancho me mom, please people time for we start picking men on present form and not past perfomances, if them fellas can`t make them english they should have came home play for some local teams
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allyuh forget Birchall was not a regular at Port Vale in 2005
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Try this:-
Ince
Cyd Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Stern JOnes
Marv and Spann on the benh
NO Darryl Roberts?..............this side ent have no credability....yuh lorse plenty marks brian!
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if spann can`t make that sh*t side we no call up for he forget sancho me mom, please people time for we start picking men on present form and not past perfomances, if them fellas can`t make them english they should have came home play for some local teams
Which one of the players on the team which beat draw with Jamaica playing on an English League team?
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Try this:-
Ince
Cyd Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Stern JOnes
Marv and Spann on the benh
NO Darryl Roberts?
He never play in de World Cup. We have that spot reserve for Anthony Wolfe.
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Allyuh being nostalgic.
EXACTLY!
Nobody being Nostalgic,you yuh self Palos,this side beating both teams,the one that draw against Jamaica and Jamaica.
Nostalgic ? ....Stern ? Calos ? KJ ? Birchall ? Whitley ? Avery ? Ince ? Sancho ? Tallest ?
Ah cud see yuh view on Sancho and Cyd but IMO Sancho and Tallest and Avery cud start before ANY defender we have right now.Yes Sancho without a club so becuz of that he shud not be invited back to training camp.His last gig with the TnT national team was 'starting center half' in the WC,so now he forget how to play ball.We need to use our best players until they retire or until the youths show they cud replace them.Making a full scale change becuz Maturana want to play youth is not not the answer,at least not while we have PROS that performing.Is maddness to think that Scotty,Stern and KJ won't be our frontline.That is our most potent frontline and will destroy any defense in de region.Spann show what he cud do when playing for the national team.DY perform great for his clubs but never really shine on the national stage.Well Spann is just de opposite and should be included in the squad becuz he performs well for TnT IMO. Birchall already show his worth to the team (f@ck Alvin Corneal HHMC) he's a ball winner, hard tackler and cud let it fly when needed,he deserve a call,he's a WC player still.
Jack is de only jackass that cud f@ck up we hopes of going to SA.If he want to leave out players becuz of badmind, that doh mean those players eh good enough to make the team.The youths show they have class and they make meh proud but if I going up against the likes of USA,Mexico,Costa Rica,Haiti or Cuba in a meaningful game I want meh guns playing and not expierementing with ah youth team.
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JustCool, men just talking bredda. Yuh making real sense. I watched the Ash Wednesday game and not one of them young players ready. The potential is there, but not ready. Who in their right mind will pick players with potential to face players (England, USA, Mexico, Canada etc..) with who performing right now.
I listened to the El Salvador game and we weren't put under any true pressure. As it stands the USA Olympic team will hammer our senior team that just played Jamdown.
You will pick Akiel Edwards over Avery John? Makan Hislop over Brent Sancho? Hyland over Chris Birchall? Randi Patterson Over Scotland, Stern, Jones, John or Glen? Jan over Ince? Can't be serious.
Let's settle the matter with a game. Play the locals vs the Old, has been players and let's see the outcome. Everyone playing for their position.
Ince
? Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Spann
Stern JOnes
Yes meh breddren thanx for the vote of confidence. those men who want the inexperience youths over the veterans have to remember that big teams like brazil and france does mix the old with the new so they could get ah real balance.
take forinstance Lillian tauram , Patrick veara and ZIZU, them men had to come back to ensure frances chance of WC 06, and rest the youths, cause them fellas doh panic and they not scared to play ball with confidence.
Juan , emersen, roberto carlos, and Ronaldo, braught the same balance to brazil in 06, and as every body know , defenders have more longevity in the game as opposed to forwards and mids.
BTW i putting daryl Roberts over spann, and hyland over birchall, sancho carreer done so dog taking his place , avery on the Lam so ian cox or akile edwards go play there and spann could play the right back positin since in my book he's a better defender than an attacker. no direspect.
all yuh forgetting one thing , them fellas used to concede goals early BC they really didn't understand the game well, not until Don Loe showed them how to handle and organize a defence, and with time at it, they become ah wall unit.
yuh can't see how dificult it was for them big teams to penetrate in the WC, and now we want to throw that away to start over. to me that doh make sense period! positive.
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A lil nostaglia nice some times
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Seriously fellas, a team like the one aginst JA will get murdered against Mex. and the USA. If Hyland playing in the middle then you have to get an experience player to go alongside him....( Yorke?). The defense WILL need the likes of Tallest and Sancho to help bring them along. We have 2 years to get there and we have to be smart. The young guys cannot get it done by themselves, we need the depth in experience.
Try this:-
Ince
Cyd Sancho Tallest Avery
Edwards Birchall Whitley Samuel
Stern JOnes
Marv and Spann on the benh
NO Darryl Roberts?..............this side ent have no credability....yuh lorse plenty marks brian!
Guess 2006 WC was nothing special. How come? What have the new team achieved to give them credibility?
Men not being nostalgic.......when I post the team I was not thinking about the TTFF and all that, I was putting forward some of the better players who can ASSIST us in a long and tedious qualification to the 2010 WC.
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so wha yuh go do for 2014 now...start with ah completely new Team, wait yuh go still have KJ & Birchall, cause nobody could never be better than ah man who see 2 WC team...etc..etc... frenzes, if we are to see our future, is against Bermuda & Jamaica we have to play our youths,...when we get to the big games, we play our best, whoever the best is judged to be at that point..I feel we will produce more & brighter stars this way, unless we want to sit and wait for 1 Latapy or 1 Stern etc...why not have 3 possible, though not quite Sterns to chose from..buh if they never see fire, dem & we bong get..
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1 - Me eh studyin Mexico, USA or none a dem teams right now because RIGHT NOW...we doh have to play dem because we eh qualify to play dem yet. I concentratin on Bermuda on June 15.
2 - I jes bein REALISTIC wit regards to team selections because as long as Jackula have breath in he body, players like Brent Sancho NOT playin fuh T&T unless someting drastic change. It have nutting to do wit whether Sancho capable or not. My point is wha is de sense playin yuh pickin Sancho, Gray, Birchall etc when dem CYAH PLAY due to circumstances beyond dem control. I will always have Birchall in my T&T team but once Alvin have a say (and he do), dat eh happenin.
3 - I wouldn't be surprised if Jack wit he bad mind self decide to put players like Lawrence & Stern etc out to pasture needah sayin dem too ole.
4 - As fuh Avery, yeah he have experience and maybe he could still contribute and maybe he is still de best option at left back dat we have, but at some point we have to find replacements for these guys so blooding players and throwin dem in de fire is all good.
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2014 Brazil by dat time FPATT will b well on its way so JW will have 2 wuk harder to mess wit we players. I will b at every WCQ but unlike d last time meh expectations lower than d white line in d road.