Tell 'em why you mad shun...
Listen...dat shit used tuh have me on de floor dred..."I'm about to break shit yo...I'M ABOUT TO BREAK SHIT!" :rotfl:Tell 'em why you mad shun...
Jes so u callin de man de mad rapper? :rotfl: :rotfl:
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery JohnThat's all i wanted to say. i couldn't resist, it was too tempting.
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John... who went into the tackle like ah A1 wildman kakahole and cost us three points against sweden!!!! :devil: :devil:FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug:lmaoBirchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery JohnThat's all i wanted to say. i couldn't resist, it was too tempting.
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John... who went into the tackle like ah A1 wildman kakahole and cost us three points against sweden!!!! :devil: :devil:FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery JohnThat's all i wanted to say. i couldn't resist, it was too tempting.
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John... who went into the tackle like ah A1 wildman kakahole and cost us three points against sweden!!!! :devil: :devil:FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery JohnThat's all i wanted to say. i couldn't resist, it was too tempting.
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John... who went into the tackle like ah A1 wildman kakahole and cost us three points against sweden!!!! :devil: :devil:FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
i feel de kakahole is you for thinking we could beat sweden
good stuff sugar..
understand de Thread... i eh saying we "need" dem yuh know...dats ah whole next thread...
i want an explanation as to "WHY" dey not called up...WHY.. thats all...
when Mclaren and capello drop Becham for both of them first game in gharge....they gave explanations....
lets get to de bottom of this....
They weren't picked because they're no longer in the national pool.
Seems simple enough. They're not in the pool because there are personal disagreements between them and the local federation. Doesn't make it right, but let's stop asking for answers that are obvious.
The TTFF are within their right to declare who's in and who's not in the pool...until and unless declared illegal by a higher authority, either CAS or FIFA, neither of which I see as forthcoming. When last have any of us heard of a player litigating his way onto a national team?
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery John
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John...heart and soul always...warrior..
FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
The question is " what separates them from the rest to be singled out this way?"
ok so why arent they in the national pool ?there are personal disagreements between them and the local federation.
they arent the only ones on this legal action are they ?
The question is " what separates them from the rest to be singled out this way?"ok so why arent they in the national pool ?there are personal disagreements between them and the local federation.
they arent the only ones on this legal action are they ?
I thought I answered this already?
"They're not in the pool because there are personal disagreements between them and the local federation."
I dunno, I guess allyuh not accepting it because allyuh looking at this thing as the National Team belonging to the people...and it's not. The local football federation is like a FIFA franchise owned by the TTFF, they can pick and choose who they want to hire to 'work' for them. Until FIFA (the parent company) declares their actions illegal, or some other governing tribunal (like CAS, since FIFA agreed to subject itself to their jurisdiction), then all this human rights campaign people trying to mount is really pointless.
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery John
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John...heart and soul always...warrior..
FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery John
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John...heart and soul always...warrior..
FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
Keep fooling yourself bro.
This is what they have done since then to now:
1) Birchall : little or no first team play for a poor team in 1st division under 3 different coaches !!!!!
2) Brent Sancho went to week to weeker teams and unable to secure a starting position on any of them.
3) Avery John. Released from team ...searching for a small team .
These players has done very little to demand any space on T&T national team.
Past performances alone cannot secure a place on any modern team.
At least in most places except on this forum where we have all the expert coaches.
This is news to me B&S (cyar forget to put in the & it might get yuh vex ;D) . So it is not just the issue with the bonus ?
What else is there?
I think this is what BM getting at, and why he believes an answer should be given as to why the others not available for selection.
This is news to me B&S (cyar forget to put in the & it might get yuh vex ;D) . So it is not just the issue with the bonus ?
What else is there?
...and I'm saying that because Sancho and Jack have been so critical in getting FPATT started (people aren't aware how much they've done behind the scenes), and they've been so critical of the TTFF that Jack has made it personal between him and them. Not sure what the issue with Birchall is. Maybe his place on the squad was an accommodation by Jack in the first place, who knows. Regardless...it's clear the issue is personal and not just some professional disagreement, judging by the TTFF's actions. My point therefore is that it doesn't matter how much noise we make on here or how much 'reason why' we ask for. They don't have to give us a reason so there's none forthcoming. Unless there's some legal or administrative body to force the TTFF to reconsider, we all might as well move on...I'm sure those players are all probably at that point as is.
Just for arguments sake...
Blacklist, bad feelings, arbitration aside...
Those 4 names have the following against them.
(You are only as good as your last game)...This was when again?...So Maturana could say they not in form.
Jack...always injured and has not seen his way since WC 06 in the warm up vs Sweden. Isnt he fighting for a spot on the bench at his club or was he let go by his employers?
Sancho...had trials for umpteen side since WC. Sign small contract for a few months, finally get a team the other day. Has he played a string of games in succession and is he fit? Sancho can come home and play on any team ahead of The Telesford, Hislop, adams, Powers...et al. These guys are still learning, as oppose to a guy who have to sharpen up. Come on get real.
Avery John....same as the above, now sign for a A league side two weeks ago. Now getting a run, now gettin fit. We must understand fit. It's not like he is a fatman or anything-----------the man just missing game fitness. 2 or 3 practice game will/could solve that whole problem
Now the above three players are over 30...ent ALyuh wanted the Colombian use youths. Ent they getting a chance. Cyar please everybody.
Only youth is Birchall....He sweat when again? what was he last game and how much minutes he get? Me mum is me mum and he will always be. Highland ahead of Birchall you having a laugh.
Then WHo is Maturana advisor/interpretor....Cornmeal. We know Me Mum cyar get no pips dey!
Ask yuhself what any of them 4 fellas do in the last 6 months to warrant a call up. Tell me what The youngsters on the team do to warrant a call?
But them 4 fellas is blacklist victims.
So why yuh scratching yuh head on Whitley?
So why yuh scratching yuh head on Whitley?
Hey, I'm just an Englishman.......I ain't got the whisper on the Trini and US based guys! Thought someone else could fill in their situation!
Just for arguments sake...:applause:
Blacklist, bad feelings, arbitration aside...
Those 4 names have the following against them.
(You are only as good as your last game)...This was when again?...So Maturana could say they not in form.
Jack...always injured and has not seen his way since WC 06 in the warm up vs Sweden. Isnt he fighting for a spot on the bench at his club or was he let go by his employers?
Sancho...had trials for umpteen side since WC. Sign small contract for a few months, finally get a team the other day. Has he played a string of games in succession and is he fit?
Avery John....same as the above, now sign for a A league side two weeks ago. Now getting a run, now gettin fit.
Now the above three players are over 30...ent ALyuh wanted the Colombian use youths. Ent they getting a chance. Cyar please everybody.
Only youth is Birchall....He sweat when again? what was he last game and how much minutes he get?
Then WHo is Maturana advisor/interpretor....Cornmeal. We know Me Mum cyar get no pips dey!
Ask yuhself what any of them 4 fellas do in the last 6 months to warrant a call up.
But them 4 fellas is blacklist victims.
For all those men who knocking Birchall sweating in Coventry reserves and saying it better than PFL..
Lets rewind..
So how does playing for Port Vale, who are a whole 2 divisions below, match up with Coventry reserves and PFL?? Because thats the level he was playing at when we found him. If anything he is a better player now than he was then, and then he was crucial for us.
Why do you feel so confident in assuming that his level has fallen off so much in the last year that he cannot make a Trinidad and Tobago 22 man squad??
Gimme a break nuh fellahs..
The man is better than anything we have available in the central defensive midfield at the moment and when fit should be one of the first names on the team sheet..
Apart from Whitley..
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that work rate??
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that outside shooting??
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that big game experience??
For all those men who knocking Birchall sweating in Coventry reserves and saying it better than PFL..
Lets rewind..
So how does playing for Port Vale, who are a whole 2 divisions below, match up with Coventry reserves and PFL?? Because thats the level he was playing at when we found him. If anything he is a better player now than he was then, and then he was crucial for us.
Why do you feel so confident in assuming that his level has fallen off so much in the last year that he cannot make a Trinidad and Tobago 22 man squad??
Gimme a break nuh fellahs..
The man is better than anything we have available in the central defensive midfield at the moment and when fit should be one of the first names on the team sheet..
Apart from Whitley..
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that work rate??
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that outside shooting??
Which central midfielder we have right now can give us that big game experience??
It take d cdren of Israel 40yrs in d wilderness for a journey dat was 2 b 40 days. JW etal lookin 2 break dat record wit dey nonesense
lets put the sentimentality aside for a moment and face it.
out of all the people who suffer from the blacklist, sancho is the one who don't deserve a place in the team at this moment..
lewwe call a spade a spade.
the man is an unknown commodity right now. he struggling to find a club for the last year and his fitness is a serious problem (as alluded to by all the clubs he trialed with and his current club Ross County). And unlike the other non-playing omitted ones like Birchall, he does not have age on his side. If we doing that at this moment, best we bring back Ian Cox too.
i prefer to stick with one of the young local player alongside Lawrence like one of Edwards, Hislop, Telesford or Power to groom and gain some experience. At his best, he is one of our best central defenders but until he can prove he's back to full fitness and form, i dont find he should be an option.
Hopefully that will happen in time for the more serious qualifiers.
Who de f#ck is sweden yuh yellow belly backward spineless uncle tom nayygger !!!! yuh think we can't beat sweden!! it seems to me you looking for talk, sweden is ah overated team, we drew with them with ten men and one ah we main threat had to fall back in defence to cover for wildman avery. BTW, in the furture is MR KAKAHOLE for you!!!!!!! batty boy !Birchall..Jack..Sancho..Avery JohnThat's all i wanted to say. i couldn't resist, it was too tempting.
allyuh hear wha going on....we cannot stand on the side and let these players be discarded because they were the oneS with the strong voice on the blacklist...( so we hear)
we need to hear from Mr.Maturana himself as to why these players are not being considered for national duty...this is fu#king madness....
this needs to be cleared up now...
let him come out and say "honestly"..""i have seen tapes of these players and they dont fit into my plans.."""
we as supporters cant just sit here and guess why...f#ck dat...
this is Jack...remember de god save in Bahrain..
this is Birchall... ...the goal that took us to Barhain with just one goal to score...injured out in the 26th min..and on the field with ah crutch celebrating...
this is sancho.......had to come in for DOG at the WC and did a great job...man hair get pull and ting ( das wha he get drop for ??).
This is Avery John... who went into the tackle like ah A1 wildman kakahole and cost us three points against sweden!!!! :devil: :devil:FU#K DAT FU#K DAT FU#K DAT....
i feel de kakahole is you for thinking we could beat sweden
Avery saved shaka clean sheet with that A1 wildman kakahole play. At least he was on the field...The rest of the defense was still in the dressing room, doh mind whistle had blow and game restart all kinda thing.Midnight ! I not looking for no argument with no guy!! but it seem's that anyone on this site who critique ah soca warrior does come under blind fire,
And he got the ball...
aammmm...let us not go too far with this ole talk...What's the deal with men on here constantly missing the point. the we i was refering too was the 06 WC players who met sweden. not this new crop of players.
sayin sweden is nuttin pretty much and we could beat dem
we house not in order at all..so let us not go there.
back to the matter at hand...
sancho aint got a club so y should he be considered?? i woulda like to see him in the team but thas a step backwards there man. Serious injustice to the fellas comin up.
man cah live off his past for the rest of his career. If he hadda go MLS, pro league then do it...
all ya doh get the feeling that some a dem not fully on football anymore? they not making d team, they getting cut or jus doh have a team.....
watch sancho, samuels, josh johnson to a lesser extent, K. Jack to name a few
men who had real promise to continue to bigger and better things and jus fizzle out...
bad luck? or jus aint cuttin it anymore??
eh tink bringing back men like Dog makin sense either
sancho aint got a club so y should he be considered??
Avery saved shaka clean sheet with that A1 wildman kakahole play. At least he was on the field...The rest of the defense was still in the dressing room, doh mind whistle had blow and game restart all kinda thing.Midnight ! I not looking for no arguement with no guy!! but it seem's that anyone on this site who critique ah soca warrior does come under blind fire,
And he got the ball...
so let me get this straight, allyuh could critasize other ball players from all over the world , and players who have more skill than anyone of our locals, and no body doh act out of character, but as soon as it's a soca warrior allyuh ready to bring down god and the angels.
well i go say my peice and who vex vex! Avery John is ah basic player. there's no dept to his game. he kinda remind me of danny collins, they are one in the same.
most of the time avery get the ball and with no one marking him, what does he do ? he hoof it up to no one in particular, just ah plain old kickaway. he rearly bring the ball and distribute it contructivly.
in the bar where we does watch the games, dey does call him kickaway avery, and his twin kickaway cyde! and i talking bout men who played for us in ther past, not armchair coaches, but men who know the game.
and IMO he cost us the game against sweden , BC they were attacking constantly and were open to a counter attack, and sooner or later if we were at full strenght we would've scored. ah still say sweden was over rated.
You could think what you want about Sweden but as for him costing us the win, you still haven't adressed the fact that 1) his play stopped what was a sure goal, 2)that he stayed alert when the rest of the defense was sleeping and 3)that he got the ball and that the referee could have chose not to send him off)
Midnight i was just making fun with bigmag about avery, i don't dislike avery nor do i think he's shyte , i'm just not overly impressed with his game.
i just got on BC of this new jack talking bout sweden could've beaten us.
i also believe avery was a bit too excited and cost us the game against sweden since carlos one of our main offensive threrats had to fall back in ah defensive position instead of attacking,
personally i believe that cost us the game. nothing personal towards avery at all my friend. positive.
Midnight i was just making fun with bigmag about avery, i don't dislike avery nor do i think he's shyte , i'm just not overly impressed with his game.Boss, Avery ain't cost us nothing. That was a sure goal against us if he didn't slide in there. And we certainly wasn't gonna score two in response. Avery save de game wit that tackle and his dismissal make the other 10 focus better and fight harder.
i just got on BC of this new jack talking bout sweden could've beaten us.
i also believe avery was a bit too excited and cost us the game against sweden since carlos one of our main offensive threrats had to fall back in ah defensive position instead of attacking,
personally i believe that cost us the game. nothing personal towards avery at all my friend. positive.
Midnight i was just making fun with bigmag about avery, i don't dislike avery nor do i think he's shyte , i'm just not overly impressed with his game.
i just got on BC of this new jack talking bout sweden could've beaten us.
i also believe avery was a bit too excited and cost us the game against sweden since carlos one of our main offensive threrats had to fall back in ah defensive position instead of attacking,
personally i believe that cost us the game. nothing personal towards avery at all my friend. positive.
my bad there..i really eh know Sancho was playin....i know hw signed but didnt see him in the lineup
jed...but 2nd division in scotland?? wow...thas a serious drop off
would like him and birchall to find better clubs though
avery, dog , cyd time done to be playing at int'l level
sancho time comin even faster since he aint playin for no serious side
he woulda get more recognition playin for a A-league side or mls even..but then again $$ is key..cah blame him
but 2nd divison scotland?!?!
What about Glen.
good TTFF alyuh finish alyuh so called experiment now? alyuh get alyuh results the test fail, time to call back the true warriors. Some of them fellas alyuh play yesterday cah cut the grade on the big stage, face it, You need to bring our warriors home
like ya real confuse today Berris ;D ;Dgood TTFF alyuh finish alyuh so called experiment now? alyuh get alyuh results the test fail, time to call back the true warriors. Some of them fellas alyuh play yesterday cah cut the grade on the big stage, face it, You need to bring our warriors home
DHW wha shit you talking breds ,yuh eh realize Stern John and co only make we look bad and cost we de game yesterday .I sure if we did leave out de pros and use de same youth team that draw wid Jamaica we wuddageh bout 15cut England ass. ::) ::)
good TTFF alyuh finish alyuh so called experiment now? alyuh get alyuh results the test fail, time to call back the true warriors. Some of them fellas alyuh play yesterday cah cut the grade on the big stage, face it, You need to bring our warriors home
DHW wha shit you talking breds ,yuh eh realize Stern John and co only make we look bad and cost we de game yesterday .I sure if we did leave out de pros and use de same youth team that draw wid Jamaica we wuddageh bout 15cut England ass. ::) ::)
Just for arguments sake...Check the Coventry City fc website and check under "reserves" the last 6 reserve 8 games. 8)
Blacklist, bad feelings, arbitration aside...
Those 4 names have the following against them.
(You are only as good as your last game)...This was when again?...So Maturana could say they not in form.
Jack...always injured and has not seen his way since WC 06 in the warm up vs Sweden. Isnt he fighting for a spot on the bench at his club or was he let go by his employers?
Sancho...had trials for umpteen side since WC. Sign small contract for a few months, finally get a team the other day. Has he played a string of games in succession and is he fit?
Avery John....same as the above, now sign for a A league side two weeks ago. Now getting a run, now gettin fit.
Now the above three players are over 30...ent ALyuh wanted the Colombian use youths. Ent they getting a chance. Cyar please everybody.
Only youth is Birchall....He sweat when again? what was he last game and how much minutes he get?
Then WHo is Maturana advisor/interpretor....Cornmeal. We know Me Mum cyar get no pips dey!
Ask yuhself what any of them 4 fellas do in the last 6 months to warrant a call up.
But them 4 fellas is blacklist victims.