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Title: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: davidephraim on September 04, 2005, 10:28:32 PM
Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?

and then ask yourself if Latas could make it. kinda makes you wonder exactly how good de little magician is on de world stage. I think all things considered Latas might have more to offer than C. Ronaldo (Portugal) to a Deep Team like Brasil. I think that in a Robinho, Kaka and Ronaldinho you could find the same qualities that C. Ronaldo excel at however yuh might get a little twist with Latas that might put him over de top.

Perfect example, right now I rating de Argentinian midfielder Messi, as being up dey wid de big boys, Zidane, Ronaldhino. I always thought that the little magician was not too far from dem fellas. Now Im sure Im reaching here a bit but Latas at 37 make man remember why he is de 1 and only Russell Latapy.

Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: dervaig on September 05, 2005, 07:46:11 AM
No and no.

The press in Brasil wants Perreira to play a 5 and 5 system.
Which would mean Carlos, Juan, Roque Junior, Cafu, with
Emerson/Gilberto Silva/Ze Roberto playing a holding midfield.
With Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka, Robinho and Adriano playing
the 5 up top. Pick who you want to play where.
What I saw yesterday was Robinho and Kaka were playing
everywhere.

Quite honestly, the Portugese Ronaldo would not even see the
bench with this Bras team.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: KND on September 05, 2005, 08:08:30 AM
ronaldo will make but latapy will not in his current state.

brazil have men with latas skill a dime a dozen by ronaldo have speed and speed can get you on any squad in the world
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 08:32:13 AM
Dervaig, the press does not pick the Brazilain team and Brazil has never played that formation even in this, their most attacking formation in modern times. Did you watch the Confed Cup or the game yesterday between Brazil and Chile yesterday? They will play with 4 forwards, not 5. Robinho only started yesterday because Ronaldinho was supsended and he started in the Confed Cup because Ronaldo did not play. But Parreira gave an interview where he wasn't eevn sure if 4 was practical when the WC comes around and Robinho is not a definite starter...yet.

The Portugues Ronaldo is good enough to make the Brazilian squad, and he would be in the starting 11 ahead of Robinho. I am not saying that he is a better player, but he developed faster than Ronbinho and they would have brought the same speed skill and flair to the team...except Ronaldo would have gotten there first. He was starring for a top European club before Robinho really started making a name for himself at senior international level. Cristiano Ronaldo is also good looking and white and if he were Brazilian he would have been marketed and hyped in a way reserved for the likes of Kaka and especially Diego. I am not trying to play the race card..Robinho is experiencing the same type of overexposure, but from a marketing point of view it helps to be white. C. Ronaldo would be on the team and it would be hard to displace him once he were playing well. Remember Diego and Kaka made the team before Robinho...Kaka kept his place by playing well (pLus he is just a flicking general)...Diego did not. Ronaldo would have gotten his chance to do the same before Robino.

Latas would never have even made a Brazilian squad, definitely not a starting 11. As magical as he was for us, he would never fit into a real top class team. No disrespect but a country like Brazil produces 10 Latapys every generation and most of them look ordinary at that level. Right now Kaka and Ronaldinho who are still not at their peaks are better than Latapy ever was. Even when Brazil was looking mediocer in the late 80s and early 90s Latas wouldn't ahve made it.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: real madness on September 05, 2005, 11:41:35 AM
Latapy can't make Brazil team
C. Ronaldo might make the bench but not on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: palos on September 05, 2005, 11:44:13 AM
No and no.

The press in Brasil wants Perreira to play a 5 and 5 system.
Which would mean Carlos, Juan, Roque Junior, Cafu, with
Emerson/Gilberto Silva/Ze Roberto playing a holding midfield.
With Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka, Robinho and Adriano playing
the 5 up top. Pick who you want to play where.
What I saw yesterday was Robinho and Kaka were playing
everywhere.

Quite honestly, the Portugese Ronaldo would not even see the
bench with this Bras team.

Ditto
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Marcos on September 05, 2005, 11:55:58 AM
DIEGO is d man to hold down d middle for Brazil!!!
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: real madness on September 05, 2005, 11:57:53 AM
Diego...????
No room for him on this team....2 years ago he looked on course for big things but he did not develop as expected.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Marlon on September 05, 2005, 12:01:10 PM
Both will make it.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Ponnoxx on September 05, 2005, 12:12:06 PM
 Christiano Ronaldo not in Robinho class. I used to watch all santos games just to see him play. C. Ronaldo is a decent player but he is over rated for doing absolutely nothing. He is not a very good team player. NO he would not make Brasil's starting lineup. He might not even make the bench cause he can't fit in( CAUSE HE IS NOT A GOOD TEAM PLAYER).
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: kicker on September 05, 2005, 12:29:03 PM
Christiano Ronaldo not in Robinho class. I used to watch all santos games just to see him play. C. Ronaldo is a decent player but he is over rated for doing absolutely nothing. He is not a very good team player. NO he would not make Brasil's starting lineup. He might not even make the bench cause he can't fit in( CAUSE HE IS NOT A GOOD TEAM PLAYER).

Garbage- Christiano Ronaldo and Robinho are in the same class...at least at this point. I'm not saying he is better or worse, but in terms of class- they're right about in the same grouping.

To say that he does nothing is garbage as well. He create opportunities, and scores goals as well (maybe not as much as desired, but a decent amount for a winger). I am in no position to say whether he would make the starting eleven or the bench, because there are many factors that go into that. But based on pure ability, he could make Brazil's team. He plays regularly for Portugal, and for Man U.-Both reputable teams in world football.....He is respected by coaches who know the game..........so to say that he does nothing is very unintelligent, unless you believe that you know more than the host of coaches that I'm sure would love to have him on their team.

About Latapy making the Brazil team- doubtful....At his peak, he may have been given a look, cause I believe that at his peak he could play amongst the worlds best......But now..... ABSOLUTELY NOT !!! GET SERIOUS !!


Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Trinimassive on September 05, 2005, 03:29:25 PM
There is only one Ronaldo and he aint C Ronaldo.
That C Ronaldo wouldn't C he way in no Brazilian team.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2005, 03:38:26 PM
He could probably make a squad of 22 for training, but ah cyar see him even getting ah whiff of dat first 11.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Lower St. John on September 05, 2005, 04:02:47 PM
Chistiano Ronaldo in Brazil starting eleven ==  NO

In no way shape and form.  He is good but he aint that good.  I honestly believe he is more hype than reality.  The only thing he has going for him to make the Brazil team is the last name Ronaldo.

To answer that question, I have a better question and this will shed light on my answer, Who can Christiano Ronaldo replace (put on de bench that is) in the Brazil starting eleven.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: palos on September 05, 2005, 04:08:42 PM
Brasil have about 15 Cristiano Ronaldo.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 04:36:18 PM
Chistiano Ronaldo in Brazil starting eleven ==  NO

In no way shape and form.  He is good but he aint that good.  I honestly believe he is more hype than reality.  The only thing he has going for him to make the Brazil team is the last name Ronaldo.

To answer that question, I have a better question and this will shed light on my answer, Who can Christiano Ronaldo replace (put on de bench that is) in the Brazil starting eleven.

Perhaps you are right, but if you watch ManU, Euro 2004, or Portugal's WC qualifiers you will realize he is frighteningly skillful and very fast. He can dribble, finishes well with both feet and at 6ft 1 is a suprisingly great header of the ball. He has some rubbish he needs to take out of his game (diving, trying to be too elaborate) but at 22 he is more than just good and he is more than just hype. Whether he makes a starting 11 depends on the coach. I think the best international and club coaches rate him highly.

Just curious, do you think Deco (a real Brazilian) coulda make this Brazil team? Who would he replace?
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Lower St. John on September 05, 2005, 04:48:49 PM
Just curious, do you think Deco (a real Brazilian) coulda make this Brazil team? Who would he replace?

This is exactly my point, in relation to this present Brazilian team, he cannot crack the first eleven.

I agree that my statement were a bit harsh but they were to make a point.  I do realize that he is very young and has played well both at the Club and International level but I don't think he is the complete player yet to be listed with the best of todays game.

Filho - Okay, here is another question is he in the top three at his position in the English Premiership?
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: JDB on September 05, 2005, 04:57:54 PM
Perhaps you are right, but if you watch ManU, Euro 2004, or Portugal's WC qualifiers you will realize he is frighteningly skillful and very fast. He can dribble, finishes well with both feet and at 6ft 1 is a suprisingly great header of the ball. He has some rubbish he needs to take out of his game (diving, trying to be too elaborate) but at 22 he is more than just good and he is more than just hype. Whether he makes a starting 11 depends on the coach. I think the best international and club coaches rate him highly.

Just curious, do you think Deco (a real Brazilian) coulda make this Brazil team? Who would he replace?

Yuh aging the youth man, Ronaldo is only 20.

As for Deco, will not make Brazil for the same reason that they couldn't build a successful team around Rai, too slow. Deco is a traditional type of playmaker who needs the ball to be going through him to be useful and this Brazil team needs skillful men who can run and keep the system fluid as well.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 05:00:26 PM
Definitely...not sure who would be better in the Premiership. That might sound strange seeing as Park actually starts ahead of him at ManU, but i feel that won't last...and I eh no big C Ronaldo fan so i could care less. I really just think he is that good when he is on form. Who is a better winger than c ronaldo in England?

I hear you though, this Brazilian team is ridiculous. Parreira saying that at least one of these 5 getting drop to the bench by the time the WC come around...Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Kaka and Adriano...jesus.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 05:06:04 PM

Yuh aging the youth man, Ronaldo is only 20.

As for Deco, will not make Brazil for the same reason that they couldn't build a successful team around Rai, too slow. Deco is a traditional type of playmaker who needs the ball to be going through him to be useful and this Brazil team needs skillful men who can run and keep the system fluid as well.

True dat... but that is how Deco plays for Portugal...but not Barcelona who use Xavi in that position and have a fast and fluid attacking midfield with Deco, Ronaldinho and Giuly behind Eto'o. I think he is more verstaile than you give him credit for.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 05:37:28 PM
Filho - Okay, here is another question is he in the top three at his position in the English Premiership?

Gave it more thought. Top wingers/wide midfielders in the Premiership, in no particular order is a toss up between Robben (although not playing too well yet this season), Duff, Sean W. Phillips, C Ronaldo and maybe Giggs (#1 in his prime). Honorable mention to Ljungberg, Zoltan Gera and Hleb.
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: davidephraim on September 05, 2005, 06:59:52 PM
how no one aint talk about Messi, allyuh aint rating that fella boy? I see de man run for Barca and look real Fo$%6king good. whats de word on Messi?
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Filho on September 05, 2005, 07:04:29 PM
well start a Messi post den
Title: Re: Could Christiano Ronaldo make de Brasil Starting 11?
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 05, 2005, 07:36:51 PM
C. Ronaldo cyan smell the Brazilian first 11.  Too much depth, skill, pace.  Ah don't think he fits that mode of play, even though he is a skillful player.  He is deceptive in space, but i don't think he is a creative genius like Ronaldindo or Robinho.
Title: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Cantona007 on April 13, 2007, 08:11:14 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6639152

MANCHESTER, England (AP) - Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo signed a five-year contract Friday to stay at Old Trafford through till 2012.

 
The 22-year-old Portugal international joined United in August 2003 from Sporting Lisbon for 12.24 million pounds (worth €17.97 million now). He has scored 18 goals for United this season and 45 overall.

"It is fantastic news, it emphasizes the point that Cristiano is happy here and that he is at the right club," United manager Alex Ferguson said. "He has a great relationship with the team, staff and the fans, and he will go on to be one of Manchester United's great players."

Ronaldo's future at the club was uncertain at the beginning of the season after clashing with United teammate Wayne Rooney in the World Cup quarterfinal match between Portugal and England in July.

Rooney was sent off for stomping on the groin of Portugal defender Ricardo Carvalho. Ronaldo had earlier run to the referee to protest Rooney's actions, receiving a shove from the England striker.

Ronaldo, who was seen winking at his bench afterward, went on to score the winning penalty kick.

After Portugal lost to Germany in the third-place playoff, Ronaldo said he wanted to leave United and move to Spain. But he was persuaded to stay and has made vital contributions with the club in contention for the Champions League, Premier League title and FA Cup this season.

"I am delighted," Ronaldo said. "I spoke with Sir Alex and David Gill about my future and everyone knew that I wanted to stay. I am very happy at the club and I want to win trophies, and hopefully we will do that this season."

Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: RGarcia on April 13, 2007, 08:17:49 AM
nice news  ;D now man go start hating now
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Peong on April 13, 2007, 08:58:01 AM
Reasons to sign a new contract:
1. Higher pay
2. Man U will get big transfer $$ when Real bring Ronaldo to his true football home

Player and club both benefit
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 13, 2007, 09:27:11 AM
You beat me to it Cantona



HE PLAYS ON THE LEFT  HE PLAYS ON THE RIGHT
THAT BOY RONALDO MADE (ANY TEAM HE PLAYS) LOOK LIKE SHITE!

Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Cantona007 on April 13, 2007, 10:06:32 AM
Reasons to sign a new contract:
1. Higher pay
2. Man U will get big transfer $$ when Real bring Ronaldo to his true football home

Player and club both benefit
...or maybe Ronnie just wants to stay at OT...

Like you does bathe in Haterade  :devil:
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Trini Madness on April 13, 2007, 10:16:15 AM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: duscam on April 13, 2007, 10:44:54 AM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: JDB on April 13, 2007, 11:15:23 AM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.

You must be watching tapes from 5 years ago. Best set yuh "way back" machine to 2007.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: triniairman on April 13, 2007, 11:25:19 AM
GREAT news,now to win the treble
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Blue on April 13, 2007, 12:09:43 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.

Ricky Quaresma is good, but he's not as good as Ronaldo...plus he is about 7 years older. I would like to see him playing for a big club in the Premiership though.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Trini Madness on April 13, 2007, 01:13:36 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.

Ricky Quaresma is good, but he's not as good as Ronaldo...plus he is about 7 years older. I would like to see him playing for a big club in the Premiership though.

hes 23
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 01:21:20 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.

Ricky Quaresma is good, but he's not as good as Ronaldo...plus he is about 7 years older. I would like to see him playing for a big club in the Premiership though.

Quaresma is 23 turns 24 in September... Christiano is 22 ....... I have christiano , quaresma and Messi as the world´s best young players ..it is hard to pick you must admit. they are all very fast when carrying the ball...they are all predictable ...... they will go past most players with ease and it usually takes more than one to stop them .
In my humble opinion Chriatiano should have won the best young player in te World Cup ...I await the usual ....
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: SHOTTA on April 13, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
i remember quaresma since his barcelona days

i thought he fell off especially when i didnt see him in the wc

saw him the champ league this season though and he looked good second best ting in portugal right now so i dont think any club will go wrong pursuing him

carlos on the right and quarsema on the left ............here come the black cats :beermug:
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: triniairman on April 13, 2007, 01:51:10 PM
i remember quaresma since his barcelona days

i thought he fell off especially when i didnt see him in the wc

saw him the champ league this season though and he looked good second best ting in portugal right now so i dont think any club will go wrong pursuing him

carlos on the right and quarsema on the left ............here come the black cats :beermug:
It's more like C.Ronaldo on the right and Quaresma on the left here comes the red devils
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: D.H.W on April 13, 2007, 02:02:34 PM
i remember quaresma since his barcelona days

i thought he fell off especially when i didnt see him in the wc

saw him the champ league this season though and he looked good second best ting in portugal right now so i dont think any club will go wrong pursuing him

carlos on the right and quarsema on the left ............here come the black cats :beermug:
It's more like C.Ronaldo on the right and Quaresma on the left here comes the red devils
Well said trini :devil:
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: breezers on April 13, 2007, 02:57:47 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that

Quaresma have my vote too!!! Ah eh tryin tuh fight down C. Ronaldo cuz he's ah player..but men lil bias cuz dey seein Ronaldo day in..day out in de EPL when compared tuh Quaresma in Portugal...cuz if men get tuh see Quaresma on ah regular basis...dey go give him more respect..dah fella rell poisonous....
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: doublet750 on April 13, 2007, 02:59:39 PM
quaresma is a chelsea target last i heard...but he remains admant at staying at porto ...even turning down a january move to atletico (to fill in for the injiured petrov and maxi rodriguez)..by posting writing a letter saying he wishes to stay at porto for a long while...

i tink jai had d best post so far...
quaresma didnt make the WC squad because felipao said he didnt tink he could fit him in with Cristiano ... figo and simao.....

and if anyone has been watchin portuguese football lately thy would see he has had some part in alot of the goals scored

d advantage cristiano has is in playing in england and alot more exposure i .....his EDGE however is prolly he is a step quicker than quaresma.....

but any man who really knows stats would know that quaresma was doing alot of d moves at Sporting whn he was strting and cristiano on d bench
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that

Quaresma have my vote too!!! Ah eh tryin tuh fight down C. Ronaldo cuz he's ah player..but men lil bias cuz dey seein Ronaldo day in..day out in de EPL when compared tuh Quaresma in Portugal...cuz if men get tuh see Quaresma on ah regular basis...dey go give him more respect..dah fella rell poisonous....
Quaresma´s  ouside of the right foot swerving shot is impossible for any keeper as the ball travels across the face of the goal ouside of the keepers reach. He does it almost at will. Portual have the two best wingers in world football in my view ...seems like they wont miss Figo for long as their tradition in wingers seem to continue.. it is hard yto pick and I agree with whoever feels that with both portuguese in de line up Man u would be stronger...maybe getting to the level of.....BOCA pèrhaps ?
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: JDB on April 13, 2007, 03:10:00 PM

but any man who really knows stats would know that quaresma was doing alot of d moves at Sporting whn he was strting and cristiano on d bench

That is the problem with rating Quaresma right now...he is playing in Portugal.

He did not do the business at Barcelona, and he has not been a regular fixture for the national team.

A few Champions league games and the Portuguese league is not enough to assess the man as one of the World's best players no matter how good he looks in Portugal.

Even Ronaldinho was validated as the World's best only after moving from France to Spain. Zidane, from France to Italy.

You have to prove it on the biggest stage and Qauresma has not.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: doublet750 on April 13, 2007, 03:19:34 PM

but any man who really knows stats would know that quaresma was doing alot of d moves at Sporting whn he was strting and cristiano on d bench

A few Champions league games and the Portuguese league is not enough to assess the man as one of the World's best players no matter how good he looks in Portugal.

Even Ronaldinho was validated as the World's best only after moving from France to Spain. Zidane, from France to Italy.

You have to prove it on the biggest stage and Qauresma has not.

its not that he has not..cuz he did his thing in CL this year....only problem is that he isnt on a BIG stage league
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: breezers on April 13, 2007, 03:29:41 PM
quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that

Quaresma have my vote too!!! Ah eh tryin tuh fight down C. Ronaldo cuz he's ah player..but men lil bias cuz dey seein Ronaldo day in..day out in de EPL when compared tuh Quaresma in Portugal...cuz if men get tuh see Quaresma on ah regular basis...dey go give him more respect..dah fella rell poisonous....

Quaresma´s  ouside of the right foot swerving shot is impossible for any keeper as the ball travels across the face of the goal ouside of the keepers reach. He does it almost at will
. Portual have the two best wingers in world football in my view ...seems like they wont miss Figo for long as their tradition in wingers seem to continue.. it is hard yto pick and I agree with whoever feels that with both portuguese in de line up Man u would be stronger...maybe getting to the level of.....BOCA pèrhaps ?

Yeah tell dem tell dem....de man is ah problem
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: doublet750 on April 13, 2007, 03:31:13 PM
breeezers doh forget bout d way dat man could SHOOT A RABONA (behind d other leg )...and Put it on target n give d keeper sum wok to do
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: breezers on April 13, 2007, 03:42:54 PM
breeezers doh forget bout d way dat man could SHOOT A RABONA (behind d other leg )...and Put it on target n give d keeper sum wok to do

Educate de board muh boi...cuz like men eh know dat Quaresma eh no joke...de man deserve full ratings.........
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: legal alien on April 13, 2007, 04:14:37 PM
i guess he resigned himself to seeing that manu is going to dominate world football in these next few years.
     its about time that manu won back the premiership title!
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Trini Madness on April 13, 2007, 04:45:51 PM
and i thought i was only one supporting quaresma

quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that

Quaresma have my vote too!!! Ah eh tryin tuh fight down C. Ronaldo cuz he's ah player..but men lil bias cuz dey seein Ronaldo day in..day out in de EPL when compared tuh Quaresma in Portugal...cuz if men get tuh see Quaresma on ah regular basis...dey go give him more respect..dah fella rell poisonous....
Quaresma´s  ouside of the right foot swerving shot is impossible for any keeper as the ball travels across the face of the goal ouside of the keepers reach. He does it almost at will. Portual have the two best wingers in world football in my view ...seems like they wont miss Figo for long as their tradition in wingers seem to continue.. it is hard yto pick and I agree with whoever feels that with both portuguese in de line up Man u would be stronger...maybe getting to the level of.....BOCA pèrhaps ?

and yuh doh see cristiano doing that right foot swerving shot.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: kicker on April 13, 2007, 04:46:36 PM

That is the problem with rating Quaresma right now...he is playing in Portugal.

He did not do the business at Barcelona, and he has not been a regular fixture for the national team.

A few Champions league games and the Portuguese league is not enough to assess the man as one of the World's best players no matter how good he looks in Portugal.

Even Ronaldinho was validated as the World's best only after moving from France to Spain. Zidane, from France to Italy.

You have to prove it on the biggest stage and Qauresma has not.

Quaresma's style of play didn't fit Rijkaard's style of coaching and instruction- that was his biggest problem. His "not doing the business" at Barca was not for lack of ability to compete at the highest level (he may have shone in a different system)....just in case you were trying to imply that.

I agree that Ronalo is more of a proven success
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 06:29:06 PM
and i thought i was only one supporting quaresma

quaresma better.....and i go continue saying it.
you is the only man saying that

Quaresma have my vote too!!! Ah eh tryin tuh fight down C. Ronaldo cuz he's ah player..but men lil bias cuz dey seein Ronaldo day in..day out in de EPL when compared tuh Quaresma in Portugal...cuz if men get tuh see Quaresma on ah regular basis...dey go give him more respect..dah fella rell poisonous....
Quaresma´s  ouside of the right foot swerving shot is impossible for any keeper as the ball travels across the face of the goal ouside of the keepers reach. He does it almost at will. Portual have the two best wingers in world football in my view ...seems like they wont miss Figo for long as their tradition in wingers seem to continue.. it is hard yto pick and I agree with whoever feels that with both portuguese in de line up Man u would be stronger...maybe getting to the level of.....BOCA pèrhaps ?

and yuh doh see cristiano doing that right foot swerving shot.

Ricardo Andrade Quaresma Bernardo, born 26 September 1983 in Lisbon, Portugal is a professional footballer; nicknamed "Mustang" by former coach Laszlo Bölöni because, similar to the horses, he possesses boldness, grace, speed, and independence; or Harry Potter, for being a young magician on the field; and also O Cigano due to Quaresma's Roma (Gypsey) decent. He is said to be one of the greatest Portuguese footballers currently, due to his dazzling moves, strength, passing ability, and shooting with the outside of his foot.

Didn´t even know that that fact about his kicking was so noticed that it has been  documented ......
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 06:31:48 PM

That is the problem with rating Quaresma right now...he is playing in Portugal.

He did not do the business at Barcelona, and he has not been a regular fixture for the national team.

A few Champions league games and the Portuguese league is not enough to assess the man as one of the World's best players no matter how good he looks in Portugal.

Even Ronaldinho was validated as the World's best only after moving from France to Spain. Zidane, from France to Italy.

You have to prove it on the biggest stage and Qauresma has not.

Quaresma's style of play didn't fit Rijkaard's style of coaching and instruction- that was his biggest problem. His "not doing the business" at Barca was not for lack of ability to compete at the highest level (he may have shone in a different system)....just in case you were trying to imply that.

I agree that Ronalo is more of a proven success

to add to what you said ....

A Sporting trainee, he debuted as a professional during the 2000-2001 season in the B side, playing 15 games. In the next season he was selected by Laszlo Bölöni to play in the main squad, where he played 28 matches, scored three goals and was a key player in Sporting's title. Quaresma's SuperLiga debut for Sporting came against his current employers, FC Porto.

During the 2002-2003 season he was Sporting's "lone star", coming second in total minutes played (2216), played in 31 matches, and scoring in five occasions. The poor results during the season were partially attributed to Bölöni, who rarely played Cristiano Ronaldo and Quaresma at the same time.


[edit] Barcelona
Quaresma was sold to FC Barcelona for €6,000,000 (approximately £4,100,000 GBP), plus playing rights for Fábio Rochemback, but failed to make his mark with the Catalan side. He first played for FC Barcelona in a friendly in the USA versus AC Milan. In the game he scored his first goal for Barcelona (Ronaldinho did the same). During the season, he started ten times, came off the bench eleven times, and scored only one goal. In the final weeks of the season he injured his right foot badly, missing both the 2004 UEFA U-21 Championship and Euro 2004, although it was highly unlikely that he would have been called up for the latter..

Lets see where he goes next ....
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 06:41:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmYhZW63qI

If you want to see what I was describing have a look at the link  ...especially at the moment 3.18 and 3.36 of the video...
If I was managing a club I would buy Quaresma, Arguero and Pepe ..... they are still emerging but are among the best of the next in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 06:55:18 PM
Dont want top stray too much furtehr from the topic but I did introduce a name ...so take a look at PEPE ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89saGjZW7YQ
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Trini Madness on April 13, 2007, 06:57:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmYhZW63qI

If you want to see what I was describing have a look at the link  ...especially at the moment 3.18 and 3.36 of the video...
If I was managing a club I would buy Quaresma, Arguero and Pepe ..... they are still emerging but are among the best of the next in my humble opinion.

need i say more?
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: D.H.W on April 13, 2007, 07:06:56 PM
I see d thread not about ronaldo anymore :D
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: JDB on April 13, 2007, 07:10:39 PM
Jai...not to disagree with any of the specifics that you quote about Quaresma's career but Wikipedia is not a credible source for bios.

Also a few CL games does not compare to proving yourself in a big league and on the International stage, game in game out.

Kicker... Quaresma's failure might not have been all his fault but it was a failure nonetheless. I believe that he made the move too early and wasn't rated highly enough or wasn't good enough to have the team play to his strengths.

The man has undoubted talent and he has a resurgence of form now but until he make the move to the outside again he is a big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 07:17:44 PM
Jai...not to disagree with any of the specifics that you quote about Quaresma's career but Wikipedia is not a credible source for bios.

Also a few CL games does not compare to proving yourself in a big league and on the International stage, game in game out.

Kicker... Quaresma's failure might not have been all his fault but it was a failure nonetheless. I believe that he made the move too early and wasn't rated highly enough or wasn't good enough to have the team play to his strengths.

The man has undoubted talent and he has a resurgence of form now but until he make the move to the outside again he is a big fish in a small pond.

Ok lets not generalise here ...what about what was quoted about quaresma is not true ? how about the video ? i dont disagree with the point about him needing more exposure that´s why I put him in the next best group. i agree he probably went in too ¨small ¨among the heavies and at the wrong time ..... Rijkard rejected my player too and he got his chance to make him regret that ... wrong place wrong time for both i guess.
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: jai john on April 13, 2007, 07:18:17 PM
I see d thread not about ronaldo anymore :D

says a lot eh ?
Title: Re: Ronaldo Signs New Contract Until 2012
Post by: Feliziano on April 13, 2007, 08:08:50 PM
this just means one less player who has transfer rumours bout him for the whole summer  ;D
but I glad he staying though
Title: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: Trini on August 22, 2007, 08:53:01 PM
Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia

This man crazy yes.
The slo-mo replay at the end do it real justice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbVX1nAK5c

Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 23, 2007, 05:29:01 PM
genius
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Grande on August 23, 2007, 05:58:52 PM
piss poor defending

unusual for a European powerhouse like Armenia
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Midknight on August 23, 2007, 06:26:18 PM
did i see right ? did he purposely bang it off a defender to provoke an own goal ?
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: freakazoid on August 23, 2007, 06:32:10 PM
did i see right ? did he purposely bang it off a defender to provoke an own goal ?
huh?

anyways its similar to a goal raul scored where he rolled the ball away from the keeper using his left foot and slotted it home using his right
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: WestCoast on August 23, 2007, 06:35:45 PM
anyways its similar to a goal raul scored where he rolled the ball away from the keeper using his left foot and slotted it home using his right
dais what Ronaldo did then...allya eye sight real good
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Mr Fix-it on August 23, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
 ??? ??? ??? ???  I doh see nutting special bout dat  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 24, 2007, 03:25:21 AM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: davidephraim on August 24, 2007, 05:16:41 AM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!

small Mag you feelin alright boy... you sayin Ronaldhino and KaKa shitty and CR7 is better?? even if yuh ratin up yuh boy yuh have to be almost mad or truly wise to say Ronaldhino and Kaka is shithongs.  Look like we need a Brasil vs Portugal friendly to sort this out... :idea: :idea: :idea: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 24, 2007, 06:05:54 AM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!

small Mag you feelin alright boy... you sayin Ronaldhino and KaKa shitty and CR7 is better?? even if yuh ratin up yuh boy yuh have to be almost mad or truly wise to say Ronaldhino and Kaka is shithongs.  Look like we need a Brasil vs Portugal friendly to sort this out... :idea: :idea: :idea: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

i remember 1 played in emirates recently... 2-0 portugal FT with same CR7 being man of the match
Title: Re: Check out Christiano Ronaldo goal today vs Armenia
Post by: davidephraim on August 24, 2007, 05:52:38 PM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!

small Mag you feelin alright boy... you sayin Ronaldhino and KaKa shitty and CR7 is better?? even if yuh ratin up yuh boy yuh have to be almost mad or truly wise to say Ronaldhino and Kaka is shithongs.  Look like we need a Brasil vs Portugal friendly to sort this out... :idea: :idea: :idea: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

i remember 1 played in emirates recently... 2-0 portugal FT with same CR7 being man of the match

oops!!
Title: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: truetrini on February 16, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
http://castroledge.com/football/ronaldo-tested-to-the-limit/
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: Fyzoman on February 16, 2013, 05:01:46 PM
Yeah boy ah watch this yesterday on tv, hate!!!

He jumping ability was clearly evident in the ManU game last week ent :)

Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: truetrini on February 16, 2013, 07:57:00 PM
Yeah boy ah watch this yesterday on tv, hate!!!

He jumping ability was clearly evident in the ManU game last week ent :)



That man is something else..jumping ability..says he can leap vertically higher than the average NBA player.  I was more impressed with his goals during the blackout...that was very impressive.
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: Girl Warrior on February 16, 2013, 09:13:54 PM
Im not a fan of Ronaldo but I happened to see the full show and its really impressive. I always knew he was a great baller but seeing it in this form shows how his speed, jumping ability, leg power and acumen are amazing. Everyone should see this, Im pretty sure you'd develop an appreciation for him.
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 16, 2013, 09:23:54 PM
I saw that shit today, that bro had on night vision glasses when the lights came off .
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2013, 09:29:35 PM
Developed by United.
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: Deeks on February 16, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
Developed by United.

Sporting Lisbon!!!
Title: Re: Watch how good Ronaldo is!
Post by: D.H.W on February 16, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
Ok made by United
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: Observer on February 17, 2013, 08:28:58 AM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!

small Mag you feelin alright boy... you sayin Ronaldhino and KaKa shitty and CR7 is better?? even if yuh ratin up yuh boy yuh have to be almost mad or truly wise to say Ronaldhino and Kaka is shithongs.  Look like we need a Brasil vs Portugal friendly to sort this out... :idea: :idea: :idea: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

i remember 1 played in emirates recently... 2-0 portugal FT with same CR7 being man of the match

Recently??? that was 2007. They played since that with the final score being 6-2 for Brazil
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 17, 2013, 10:16:21 AM
Unless Ronaldo win the another CL or WC with Pootugal, he will live in Messi's shadow as far as many people are concern. CR7 is great, but the little lion does do the intangibles that make him stand above the rest. I have always like CR7, from since Sporting, but Lionel is in a cloud by himself. I am glad to be around to see him play.
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: truetrini on February 17, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
haters

i could imagine if it was dat buck tooth brasillian shthong or dat prettyboy brazilian fag who plays for milan


CR7..LEGEND..THERES ONLY 1 RONALDO!

small Mag you feelin alright boy... you sayin Ronaldhino and KaKa shitty and CR7 is better?? even if yuh ratin up yuh boy yuh have to be almost mad or truly wise to say Ronaldhino and Kaka is shithongs.  Look like we need a Brasil vs Portugal friendly to sort this out... :idea: :idea: :idea: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

i remember 1 played in emirates recently... 2-0 portugal FT with same CR7 being man of the match

Recently??? that was 2007. They played since that with the final score being 6-2 for Brazil
whappen to you observer, yuh sleep surfing or yuh just having a Dave Jenny kinda morning?
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: truetrini on February 17, 2013, 10:38:08 AM
Unless Ronaldo win the another CL or WC with Pootugal, he will live in Messi's shadow as far as many people are concern. CR7 is great, but the little lion does do the intangibles that make him stand above the rest. I have always like CR7, from since Sporting, but Lionel is in a cloud by himself. I am glad to be around to see him play.
are you suggesting that Ronaldo does not do the intangibles?

I am a big messi fan.  BUt Ronaldo right up there in that cloud with him.
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: Observer on February 17, 2013, 11:33:40 AM
 Ronaldo is a wonderfully majestic player, I have enjoyed watching his evolution as a player. Hope he keeps his present form and adding to his game.
Title: Re: Christiano Ronaldo Thread
Post by: fitzinho on February 18, 2013, 09:55:02 AM
Saw both CR7 and Messi play live...them men just different. I for one find it hard to say one better or worse, but they both miles above the competition.
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