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Sports => Football => Topic started by: AB.Trini on June 08, 2008, 10:11:48 PM
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It is with utter amazement that I read all the reports of the previous games. There appears in some camps to be widespread displacement of blame for our performance; we have in many instances created 'scapegoats' for our team's performance.
What was the purpose of the friendlies? Are these games not intended to evaluate and to assess the team's strengths and weakness? Or are they intended to build someone's coffers?
Friendlies are part of a process not the final product. Did our process fail?
It would appear that prior to last WC we had the similar debacles. Last minute arranged friendlies; we started with a coach who for intent was an experiment; when we were at the midway point and collect 5 from Guatemala, change of coach!!!!
Now we are roused into a similar frenzy with blame: blame JW; blame TTFF blame the ineptitude of some players; blame the Corneals; blame the system.; blame alleged blacklist..... it's endless scapegoating for what we believe is unacceptable performances.
We have high expectations for success; this is good. But what do we really want to see ? what will it take to satisfy this insatiable appetite we have to be dominant? The frustrations that is felt and expressed appears to be with the way in which the powers to be seems to be playing Russian roulette --- a potentially lethal game of chance with our WC drive. It is unnerving to know that for once, we appear to have depth and quality players to choose from yet, some believe that it is a given that we could get pass certain teams with less talented players. Are we that complacent? or are we arrogant enough to think that Bermuda will be a walk in the park?[/u]
Reports of the past games suggest that we are still not a cohesive and well balanced team in our attack or defensive schemes; our mid fielders are suspect. So why take chances in the early rounds and risk a repeat of last WC qualifiers. Remember it took a while to finally bring 'Tallest' into the squad.
I am advocating that all parties put their collective differences aside, get BEST available players and let's get on with a serious drive in these WC qualifiers.
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what u saying just chill cause when jack realise we gonna get eliminated ,and he will lose millions in gate receipts ,he will bawl up at the corneails and fix everything fast fast .Sounds like a typical jack plan ,ans like u say we have enough talent to maybe pull it off ............of all the teams i back this is the most backwards and unprofessional of them all .
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come nah geh me some props of making sense of this post nah jkab
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At hat point could a mediator step in and resolve all this nonsense?
There just seems to be this sense ' that at this time we have the collective individuals to take us through the qualifiers. Is this a' pipe dream' or could the coaches be seeing untapped potential that has not been realized as yet?
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A.B. Trini it is a lot of politics taking place with the TTFF.
1- Exposing young talents so as to get contracts abroad. Not a problem if it is for the good of the youths. However it is pure economics and greed.
2- Jack brief to the coaching staff is to unearth new talent so that most of the blacklisted will never wear a national shirt again.
3- The Corneals with Jack run the Circus that is T&T football and they will not rock the boat, Lincoln I thought had integrity but he is also part of the old Maple Mafia and dont want to lose out on overseas trips.
The bottom line is Who pays the piper calls the tune.
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AH FACKING GAIN... same shit different day...STEUUUUUUUUPPPSSS !!
Continue AB.Trini, yuh heading straight for ah park bench in Woodford square.
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A B Trini i believe everything you say...my pointerview to that is none...i don't know what going on with ttff and players in general...the reason i say that is because i don't think Trinidad and Tobago is ready for international football until they get their act together starting from the top....I'm not here to blame anyone...just wanted the shit to stop and really get down to business...it seem that other team with in the concacaf are on the up and up....(Hon) and Haiti...even Jam frighting to get back there...but T&T...i just don't know...thinking and reading about the team and players... is headache
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Thats quite ironic berris, cuz i did see AB Woodford Square de udda day.
He was wearing a carboard sign that crudely spelt out, "The end is near."
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It is unnerving to know that for once, we appear to have depth and quality players to choose from yet, some believe that it is a given that we could get pass certain teams with less talented players.
I have been fortunate to see all of the recent games and not have to rely on reports, and I do not necessarily agree with this statement when discussing going into the World Cup qualifiers. As in every WC campaign, a coach has to play with the hand he is dealt and optimize the performance of the players by a sound technical approach. I have not seen a sound technical approach. What I have seen is sub-par opponents and results to match.
Reports of the past games suggest that we are still not a cohesive and well balanced team in our attack or defensive schemes; our mid fielders are suspect. So why take chances in the early rounds and risk a repeat of last WC qualifiers. Remember it took a while to finally bring 'Tallest' into the squad.
I am one for trusting in a coach. If Matu cannot figure it out and Jack is spending "his" money to pay him then Jack has to get rid of him. The semi-final group will not be easy and if we do not settle on a squad and a sound technical approach to the game utilizing the players available (whether Jacklisted or not) and players knowing and understanding their roles, we will not only get beat but embarassed.
Blessings
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When we get embarass go b Hunt fault
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i wonder if we not getting ahead of ourselves here a bit ??? ...we want to climb Mount Everest right ? well the journey starts with a single step ! we doh jump from the base to the top !
Our first opponent is Bermuda ...are we ready for dat ? If we are not then folks may have a point ...if we are then folks need to look and learn ...
All dis doom and gloom eh go make de team better !
Like all yuh want Mourinho or what ? If he come all yuh eh tink he go take some time to get to know where the talented players are and what they can do under pressure ?
You dont get that info by Osmosis folks .... give the man a chance ....when we play our next game it will be with the team the coach is convinced will get the job done at this time. That does not mean that this will be the same team for later games.. all yuh forget Pele was a sub in 1958 or that Shaka was a sub for Jack in de last WC ?
Way all yuh want
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i wonder if we not getting ahead of ourselves here a bit ??? ...we want to climb Mount Everest right ? well the journey starts with a single step ! we doh jump from the base to the top !
Our first opponent is Bermuda ...are we ready for dat ? If we are not then folks may have a point ...if we are then folks need to look and learn ...
All dis doom and gloom eh go make de team better !
Like all yuh want Mourinho or what ? If he come all yuh eh tink he go take some time to get to know where the talented players are and what they can do under pressure ?
You dont get that info by Osmosis folks .... give the man a chance ....when we play our next game it will be with the team the coach is convinced will get the job done at this time. That does not mean that this will be the same team for later games.. all yuh forget Pele was a sub in 1958 or that Shaka was a sub for Jack in de last WC ?
Way all yuh want
not to be disrespectful but are u you on crack now is not the time to be experimenting this is world cup qualifiers like u forget . do you see mexico , usa costa rica haite experimenting they already have there squad for the qualifiers right now they just fine tuning them , Right now we still TRYINGGGGG to build a squad.its like u study for a exam tomorrow so u craming .is de same shit we doing every world cup qualifier waiting for the last moment to do what they call experimenting. we lucky last qualifiers because we got a don of a coach benhacker but lighting those not strike the same place twice.
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Fellas we could get what coach we want, the coach cannot achieve success with average material to work with. The technical ability of the players will always dictate the tactics employed by the coach. We cannot play 4-5-1 if the forward cannot hold up the ball and the mids cannot provide the support if the forward do hold up the ball. We cannot force play wide if we know our fullbacks are slow and not good at 1v1. The coach can only do so much. Technique (or the lack thereof is) killing us.
Our team is like running windows 95 on a dial up connection with no antivirus. Like entering a brothel with no condoms. Like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Like the USA in Iraq.
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When we get embarass go b Hunt fault
And we guh BOO him tooo
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I will never forget a man with a big Poster walking around the Stadium when Gally was in charge of the Strike Squad. Pressure was placed on Gally to include Nakid in the squad. Gally said he was still experimenting.
The Poster read-"If Gally at this stage still experimenting he should look for a wuk at CARIRI'= priceless.
We have to give the Coach the opportunity to coach. My beef is a lot of good players still young are not being seen by this coach.
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ent are saying this all along.... I eh think we have the team yet where we could simply show up and the other team drop dead!!!!!
Nah every flipping team we play is ah struggle to earn a victory. Right now Ethiopia will give we ah fight.
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Patience is a vertue.... if we doh look good against Bermuda in the home and away ... time to talk. We have not played a game yet and man done panicing. Allyuh fellas need ah drink to cooldown the nerver yes :beermug:
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ent are saying this all along.... I eh think we have the team yet where we could simply show up and the other team drop dead!!!!!
Nah every flipping team we play is ah struggle to earn a victory. Right now Ethiopia will give we ah fight.
..Really!..every team or you just referring to one or two?
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ent are saying this all along.... I eh think we have the team yet where we could simply show up and the other team drop dead!!!!!Nah every flipping team we play is ah struggle to earn a victory. Right now Ethiopia will give we ah fight.
lol When did we ever had a team where we could just show up and the other team drop dead?..I love my socawarriors but cant remember when we ever had a team that dynamic...Mexico and U.S has that "drop dead" effect on their Concacaf rivals
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Ent are saying that we should be more decisive with our player selection and approach to these qualifiers especially against these 'so called lesser' teams.
The level of their motivation when playing us must be at at all time high and what we playing? "Russian Roulette' Instead of 'arming we team with al the best we still experimenting!!!
Then the audacity of some men to make light of the postings. Oh well; who doh feel does suffer'
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By the sentiments being expressed it appears to be too late for a major recall of players which took us to the WC?
Imagine what that may have been like if the majority of those players were drafted early on in the build up to qualifiers? The core and the foundation was already there. One of two players to replace Marvin Andrews, Yorke and Latapy and you know what..... we would not have had to experiment so much with youth and inexperience players.
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Oops Marvin is on d road 2 recovery
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Will this wake up call, result in a review of the players we ought to call up for the next round?
Where is A. John; J.James; C.Birchall? C.Glenn?
Is C.Samuel; Sancho in shape?
Who else ought to be here to answer the bell for round two?
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If this jackass coach does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
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If this jackass coach does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
agreed, 115%
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Dat obvious we just did not want 2 not make it 2 d semis. Dat team wit dat coach eh winning a game on d road and home go b real difficult. But wait where is home again Giants Stadium
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If this jackass coach Special Advisor, and his cohorts, the Cornmeals does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
had to tidy that up for you ;D
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If this jackass coach Special Advisor, and his cohorts, the Cornmeals does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
had to tidy that up for you ;D
Hey thanks bro. LOL
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If this jackass coach Special Advisor, and his cohorts, the Cornmeals does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
had to tidy that up for you ;D
Hey thanks bro. LOL
I am of the belief that Mats between a rock harded man and a couple ah yes men oui
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If this jackass coach Special Advisor, and his cohorts, the Cornmeals does not have a look at ALL our availible players, our cutasss BOOKED for this upcoming group stage.. Best believe that,.
had to tidy that up for you ;D
Hey thanks bro. LOL
I am of the belief that Mats between a rock harded man and a couple ah yes men oui
Fawk him still tho.. He hadda go
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Will this wake up call, result in a review of the players we ought to call up for the next round?
Where is A. John; J.James; C.Birchall? C.Glenn?
Is C.Samuel; Sancho in shape?
Who else ought to be here to answer the bell for round two?
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Add Randi Patterson to this list to be called up.......
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bring back birchall, and give Julius James a chance
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Is Michael Edwards in shape? From a man who was dey d answer is noooooooooooo but he play
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IT APPEARS THAT SOMEONE IS READING OR LISTENING TO WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO SAY ON THIS FORUM.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=37145.msg447399#msg447399
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The Concacaf teams have been working with their players over a year now and look at the reults they are getting. Mexico brought back the old general Borgetti who continues to bury them in the net
The US despite losing to England have been rampaging past teams over the last year from all over the globe, with the same group of players so has Costa Rica, Guatemala and even Jamacia.
You can see by the results from the first games they are ready for the games ahead while we struggle with selection, tactics and blacklist, oh lawd if we make the hexagon it would be a miracle.
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IT APPEARS THAT SOMEONE IS READING OR LISTENING TO WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO SAY ON THIS FORUM.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=37145.msg447399#msg447399
Lasana listens, definitely. Daiz why SW.net members need to understand their value. Think positive.
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The US despite losing to England have been rampaging past teams over the last year from all over the globe, with the same group of players so has Costa Rica, Guatemala and even Jamacia.
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Yeah I was saying this after watching this documentary:
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=36961.msg444240#msg444240
What if ....
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Where is Lester Peltier in the mix of player's selection for the national team? There seems to be at one time a lot of hype around the potential of this player, yet he has not seen recent action on the national team.
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If we compiled a list after making a sweep of TNT players in the USA college ranks, in the MLS and in the USL what would that list of players look like?
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not to be disrespectful but are u you on crack now is not the time to be experimenting this is world cup qualifiers like u forget . do you see mexico , usa costa rica haite experimenting they already have there squad for the qualifiers right now they just fine tuning them , Right now we still TRYINGGGGG to build a squad.its like u study for a exam tomorrow so u craming .is de same shit we doing every world cup qualifier waiting for the last moment to do what they call experimenting. we lucky last qualifiers because we got a don of a coach benhacker but lighting those not strike the same place twice.
The US and Mexico are very much still experimenting... shit Erickson barely on the job a month yuh think his squad settled? The US has a settled pool of players but they're very much still experimenting with the playing squad...so in that regard we are no different.
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Have we now come full circle? The recall is in effect. Is this the answer?
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What is d question? If qualifyin 4 2010 is d ? d answer is yesssssssss we try d novice dem dey eh able