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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Touches on June 15, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
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Dear Forumites,
It was only a matter of time...
I am still in shock over what transpired this evening at the Marvin Lee stadium, but the result was just what we deserved from the lack of effort showed by the individuals on the field today.
Bermuda well done. They played to a set game plan, they executed it perfectly, they played within their limitations and scored two very good goals against a PISS POOR TT team.
I honestly do not think the players on the field realised what this game meant to the nation. I also do not think they know the position we are in, the severity of their actions and the consequences to follow.
I have over the past few reports indicated the weaknesses to our game and the glaring deficiencies that our team possess, we were exploited perfectly by the Bermuda team.
It is so hard being a TT supporter. Having been to every match so far and being rewarded game after game with sub-standard displays, lack of effort, poor opposition and now losing scorelines.
I arrived at 4:45 and joined the 1000 or so spectators in attendance. The Jamaica game had a much larger crowd and the stadium consisted of the true Die hard TT fans. TSTT had some girls in burning white football pants and tall socks giving away rags, thundersticks and cups, the carib girls were strutting their stuff and KC confectionary was handing out free chewing gum to anyone willing to exercise their jaw muscles and get an early dentist appointment....(I took a handfull)
The teams were warming up on the field and from the looks of it Bermuda just didnt look like a side. Imagine a team of red men, some of them tall but many devoid of any kinda physique or athletic finish what so ever. I telling yuh is some big belley men with paunch was warming up. They were in red, doing all different kinds of stuff and TT doing the usual.
The teams came out from the tunnel and it was from then it all went downhill.
Readers.....before the whistle even blew we lost that match.
Bermuda came out with a Normal standard sized 3 x 4 flag and TT did not learn their lessons from the previous games and came out with a flag SMALLER than the one displayed in the England match. Yes, Yes the flag was smaller.... It is as if they take a Trini bandana from a vendor outside or borrow a man flag from his car antenna.
So after that disappointment, Bermuda's anthem...God Saves the Queen...blared out from the PA system and then it was time for the TT anthem.
The 1000 of us were waiting for the kettle drums to roll, the trumpets to blare and the opening bars of our anthem to ring loud and true from the PA system but what we got instead was a .....Ladies and Gentlemen.....Please Sing....The national Anthem of Trinidad and Tobago!!!!!!
Well boy is now people start to cuss.......We at home, in the opening WCQ, and we do not even have our own national anthem in our own stadium. Worse yet, they ent even get some kinda singer or artiste or someone with a clue of a singing voice. Is the same announcer hit we the Pat Gastagne composition...acapella...out of time...out of key...and he rush the last verse as he was feeling shame.
Ent we play JA last week right here...the cd lorse or what?
So small flag and no anthem....yes..whoever in charge of that should be fired!
TT also was outfitted in our new Kit...yes the one being sold in Francis Fashions and while there were no names on the shirt the uniform looked good. Bermuda in a grey kit with a blue trim.
SO game on..... Bermuda in a 4-4-2. TT playing a 3-5-2 formation.
Ince in goal, Smith, Hislop, Lawrence,
Mid of Telesford, whitley, Daniel, Hyland and Carlos.
Stern and Scotland fwd.
What was interesting was that Hyland was in the left wing position, Daniel in the middle, Carlos on the right flank.
Tweet!!!!!!
and it was all Bermuda...
They came at us full guns blazing, running hard, moving the ball, hustling and TT with the same shitty knock the ball in the back could not even come out of our half.
The midfield did not tackle, men only watching, Telesford getting cuss right tru from ince, Hislop getting cuss right tru from ince, Smith getting cuss right tru from ince and Dennis Lawrence transformed from Sweeper to Playmaker. It is then I knew we didnt have a clue if Tallest was the one responsible for pulling the strings.
After 5 minutes the Bermudan team played a one two...the fwd blow past Smith and whipped in the cross. The defenders were caught out ball watching and the Bermuda forward ran in past everybody and hit a one time volley past ince from the top of the 18.
Brilliant goal!!!!
and one I hoped would spark TT to life....but how wrong I was.
TT continued their pass around in the back and Bermuda effectively shut us down and out. TT could not even come out the half. The wingbacks did not over lap. We have 5 midfielders who could not make a run or open up a space, take on a player or pass it around.
Imagine in the pass around in the back...it would be Dennis Lawrence to hoof a long ball to the flank or play a driven pass 40 meters to stern or scotland to trap and screen. By passing the entire midfield.
The first chance came from a hit and hope long ball...Stern collects it and with acres of space and in a 1 v1 situation hits a powder puff from the top of the box when he could have moved in closer.
Hyland was a non factor on the wing. After getting blade 2-3 times he was out. Daniel was also out of the game being "pongs" off the ball and doing nothing on the flank whenever he interchanged with Hyland.
WHitley tried a thing but had no support, was doubled teamed and marked out of the game.
Telesford was good at looking busy and doing nothing. To his credit he was the only TT player who tried to tackle the ball, but he was simply just skate tackling wild and getting left out.
Stern and Scotland up front....their work ethic and speed not the best and no service leaving TT impotent up front.
In the next 20 minutes we just laboured around losing the ball on the flank, hitting it long to the corner flag hoping for something or long for Stern to hold up. Then he would lose the ball as he was double and triple teamed with no midfield support.
The TT goal came against the run of play. Bermuda had us penned in and after an exchange of passes Stern finally got the ball and placed it in the far post....Goal...1-1 and I say ok we will step up the tempo and kill them off.
Eh heh TT went into bedroom mode and start to play casual casual as if they alone on the field and is level wood we start to get.
TT were slow to every ball, came second in every challenge, every air ball and every referee call. It was as if we were the away team...All the while the TSTT riddim section pounding away and supporters urging on the Team.
We trying, we trying and is nuttin happening, no movement off the ball, no tackling, no creative passes, no beating or taking on players...just a hoof, a hit and hope.
Bermuda then scored after a spell of possession...a cross came in and with a fwd runnin on to the ball Lawrence, and Hislop backed off to head it away..Ince comes off his line...Does not bawl "keeper" jumps and fumbles the ball colliding with Hislop and the Bermuda forward.
He lands awkwardly..I thought his wrist or shoulder break/he is not moving and all the other TT players standing up watching.
Meanwhile...Ball is in play and a Bermuda player picks up the loose ball and fires home into an empty net with the TT defence standing up, Hislop on the ground and Lawrence looking over them.
They tried to argue that Ince is injured but the ball never went out, the ref never stopped the play and TT are 2-1 down. Good Goal.
Then Ince stays down for about 5 minutes, the medic team runs on, the back up keeper warms up and then Ince gets up and continues like nothing is wrong.
Tweettttt half time
players cussing one another...body language not there. You could see tension and things just looking grim.
Tactically a side of big belley red men, some of whom, bun, cant trap or pass properly but running with all they heart and soul shut us down and we cyar see we way or come out the half.
The second half starts and Maturana takes off Hyland and puts in Farrier.
TT switch to a 4-3-3 and Bermuda goes into a 4-5-1 formation compact and tight hoping to hit us on the break.
TT then plays knock around in the back and nuttin for the rest of the game.
What I cannot understand is that Maturana makes no other positive subs...the last sub being Stephan david to replace telesford as telesford was tired from tackling wind and running into his own players.
Bermuda has a compact formation, two defensive zones and TT playing backs and fwds...the new tactic is that smith or farrier would play a long cross field ball for Scotland or Daniel to trap and try to get across.
Folks it was bad.....nuttin was happening and then Whitley and Carlos tried to make things happen.
Both players would try to form a small triangle, take on players and shoot if the opportunity came.
Carlos beat one, he beat two, he beat three and after all the hard work had no one to cross to or made a total mess of the final ball.
With 10 minutes left Ince was forced to come off his line to thwart the Bermuda fwd who could have scored to make it 3-1.
Then another comedy...the game was stopped as the net for one of the goal posts was loose in the back. Stern John then tries to climb up and fix the net. The crowd shouting "that is not your wuk" Then eventually the groundsman Ralphie appears and Whitley has to lift him up and put him on his shoulders to help tie the net.....( You ever see shit so)
Our own players chasing a goal hadda give man boost and help groundsman tie up goal post net with 10 minutes left to play.
Bermuda then start to milk the clock and TT tried to wake up passing the ball around and playing it to Scotland and Sterns feet in the box.
People start to leave and at times I actually had to stop and count the number of TT players on the field because it looked like if we were playing with 8 men. Bermuda turned it up a notch and start to knock the ball around and we couldnt touch it or see our way. Their 4-5-1, TOTALLY dominating our 4-3-3 and we never looked like threatening.
What was mindblowing is that Maturana did not change the formation, did not make any positive attacking subs and looked like he was trying for damage control rather than getting options going fwd. But given the squad selected with only Roberts as a attacking sub...he was short on players and ideas.
5 Damn minutes to go and is only then TT look like they wanted to play ball. Stern then beat two men and squared for Scotland who hit it straight at the keeper in the 6 yard box and then the worse throwaway for the night came when stern after trapping a ball and beating the last defender one on one with the keeper who is already scrambling on the ground hits it wide in the six yard box.
WHen I tell you the whole stadium Cuss....For all the shit TT play tonight had Stern taken his chances we would have won the game 3-2.
Tweeet thats it game done, Bermuda start to jump up like if they win the world cup and TT players walking back to the dressing room normal. No kinda emotion, no shame no nuttin...is like if they ent care.
I ent know what to say.
But this cutarse is the best thing that coulda happen to us!
The sheep and the goats got seperated long time ago and we done line up by the abattoir and the butchers have they knives sharpening.
It will take a MIRACLE to beat Bermuda 2-0 away.
Is not now we ketching we arse to create chances, is not now we defence playing shit and is not now the midfield deficient.
TT has to step up their game big time in order for us to move on to the next phase.
As for me I will not be surprised if we are eliminated. It will come sooner than later in this campaign but I would rather it at the hands of the USA....not Bermuda.
Additionally I think Maturana and the Corneals have to go. Wim was a better bet, tactically and with the style of play. Even if we get past Bermuda we have a month to sort out ourselves. It is off season. A one month camp with some of the regular players will be enough to beat Cuba and Guatemala. The youths have shown time and again they are not ready for this level.
Our World Cup dreams will be dashed in one weeks time if we do not muster a 2-0 away win. It is not impossible by any means, but for this group and this coach it is a uphill task indeed.
I dont know if there will be a next time on this campaign.
P.S. Happy Fathers Day
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thanks touches...is a dark dark day in we football history.
I really numb to de shit now...the ball been rolling for de shit to happen since de world cup
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Touches, ah didn't expect ah report tonight....ah thought you would have been able to bring yuh self to do it.....thanks much....ah now going to read it...
Edit: Touches boy ah couldn't have said it better my self....and I can't.... :beermug:
De sad thing is, Jack goh spin dis some how.....de general public goh forget after Sunday next and on to de next 9 day wonder....steups...
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Dear Forumites,
It was only a matter of time...
I am still in shock over what transpired this evening at the Marvin Lee stadium, but the result was just what we deserved from the lack of effort showed by the individuals on the field today.
Bermuda well done. They played to a set game plan, they executed it perfectly, they played withing their limitations and scored two very good goals against a PISS POOR TT team.
I honestly do not think the players on the field realised what this game meant to the nation. I also do not think they know the position we are in, the severity of their actions and the consequences to follow.
I have over the past few reports indicated the weaknesses to our game and the glaring deficiencies that our team possess, were expolited perfectly by the Bermuda team.
It is so hard being a TT supporter. Having been to every match so far and being rewarded game after game with sub-standard displays, lack of effort, poor opposition and now losing scorelines.
I arrived at 4:45 and joined the 1000 or so spectators in attendance. The Jamaica game had a much larger crowd and the stadium consisted of the true Die hard TT fans. TSTT had some girls in burning white football pants and tall socks giving away rags, thundersticks and cups, the carib girls were strutting their stuff and KC confectionary was handing out free chewing gum to anyone willing to exercise their jaw muscles and get an early dentist appointment....(I took a handfull)
The teams were warming up on the field and from the looks of it Bermuda just didnt look like a side. Imagine a team of red men, some of them tall but many devoid of any kinda physique or athletic finish what so ever. I telling yuh is some big belley men with paunch was warming up. They were in red, doing all different kinds of stuff and TT doing the usual.
The teams came out from the tunnel and it was from then it all went downhill.
Readers.....before the whistle even blew we lost that match.
Bermuda came out with a Normal standard sized 3 x 4 flag and TT did not learn their lessons from the previous games and came out with a flag SMALLER than the one displayed in the England match. Yes, Yes the flag was smaller.... It is as if they take a Trini bandana from a vendor outside or borrow a man flag from his car antenna.
So after that disappointment, Bermuda's anthem...God Saves the Queen...blared out from the PA system and then it was time for the TT anthem.
The 1000 of us were waiting for the kettle drums to roll, the trumpets to blare and the opening bars of our anthem to ring loud and true from the PA system but what we got instead was a .....Ladies and Gentlemen.....Please Sing....The national Anthem of Trinidad and Tobago!!!!!!
Well boy is now people start to cuss.......We at home, in the opening WCQ, and we do not even have our own national anthem in our own stadium. Worse yet, they ent even get some kinda singer or artiste or someone with a clue of a singing voice. Is the same announcer hit we the Pat Gastagne composition...acapella...out of time...out of key...and he rush the last verse as he was feeling shame.
Ent we play JA last week right here...the cd lorse or what?
So small flag and no anthem....yes..whoever in charge of that should be fired!
TT also was outfitted in our new Kit...yes the one being sold in Francis Fashions and while there were no names on the shirt the uniform looked good. Bermuda in a grey kit with a blue trim.
SO game on..... Bermuda in a 4-4-2. TT playing a 3-5-2 formation.
Ince in goal, Smith, Hislop, Lawrence,
Mid of Telesford, whitley, Daniel, Hyland and Carlos.
Stern and Scotland fwd.
What was interesting was that Hyland was in the left wing position, Daniel in the middle, Carlos on the right flank.
Tweet.....
and it was all Bermuda...
They came at us full guns blazing, running hard, moving the ball hustling and TT with the same shitty knock the ball in the back could not even come out of our half.
The midfield did not tackle, men only watching, Telesford getting cuss right tru from ince, Hislop getting cuss right tru from ince, Smith getting cuss right tru from ince and Dennis Lawrence transformed from Sweeper to Playmaker. It is then I knew we didnt have a clue if Tallest was the one responsible for pulling the strings.
After 5 minutes the Bermudan team played a one two...the fwd blow past Smith and whipped in the cross. The defenders were caught out ball watching and the Bermuda forward ran in past everybody and hit a one time volley past ince from the top of the 18.
Brilliant goal!!!!
and one I hoped would spark TT to life....but how wrong I was.
TT continued their pass around in the back and Bermuda effectively shut us down and out. TT could not even come out the half. The wingbacks did not over lap. We have 5 midfielders who could not make a run or open up a space, take on a player or pass it around.
Imagine in the pass around in the back...it would be Dennis Lawrence to hoof a long ball to the flank or play a driven pass 40 meters to stern or scotland to trap and screen. By passing the entire midfield.
The first chance came from a hit and hope long ball...Stern collects it and with acres of space and in a 1 v1 situation hits a powder puff from the top of the box when he could have moved in closer.
Hyland was a non factor on the wing. After getting blade 2-3 times he was out. Daniel was also out of the game being "pongs" off the ball and doing nothing on the flank whenever he interchanged with Hyland.
WHitley tried a thing but had no support, was doubled teamed and marked out of the game.
Telesford was good at looking busy and doing nothing. To his credit he was the only TT player who tried to tackle the ball, but he was simply just skate tackling wild and getting left out.
Stern and Scotland up front....their work ethic and speed not the best and no service leaving TT impotent up front.
In the next 20 minutes we just laboured around losing the ball on the flank, hitting it long to the corner flag hoping for something or long for Stern to hold up. Then he would lose the ball as he was double and triple teamed with no midfield support.
The TT goal came against the run of play. Bermuda had us penned in and after an exchange of passes Stern finally got the ball and placed it in the far post....Goal...1-1 and I say ok we will step up the tempo and kill them off.
Eh heh TT went into bedroom mode and start to play casual casual as if they alone on the field and is level wood we start to get.
TT were slow to every ball, came second in every challenge, every air ball and every referee call. It was as if we were the away team...All the while the TSTT riddim section pounding away and supporters urging on the Team.
We trying, we trying and is nuttin happening, no movement off the ball, no tackling, no creative passes, no beating or taking on players...just a hoof, a hit and hope.
Bermuda then scored after a spell of possession...a cross came in and with a fwd runnin on to the ball Lawrence, and Hislop backed off to head it away..Ince comes off his line...Does not bawl "keeper" jumps and fumbles the ball colliding with Hislop and the Bermuda forward.
He lands awkwardly..I thought his wrist or shoulder break/he is not moving and all the other TT players standing up watching.
Meanwhile...Ball is in play and a Bermuda picks up the loose ball and fires home into an empty net with the TT defence standing up, Hislop on the ground and Lawrence looking over them.
They tried to argue that Ince is injured but the ball never went out, the ref never stopped the play and TT are 2-1 down. Good Goal.
Then Ince stays down for about 5 minutes, the medic team runs on, the back up keeper warms up and then Ince gets up and continues like nothing is wrong.
Tweettttt half time
players cussing one another...body language not there. You could see tension and things just looking grim.
Tactically a side of big belley red men, some of whom, bun, cant trap or pass properly but running with all they heart and soul shut us down and we cyar see we way or come out the half.
The second half starts and Maturana takes off Hyland and puts in Farrier.
TT switch to a 4-3-3 and Bermuda goes into a 4-5-1 formation compact and tight hoping to hit us on the break.
TT then plays knock around in the back and nuttin for the rest of the game.
What I cannot understand is that Maturana makes no other positive subs...the last sub being Stephan david to replace telesford as telesford was tired from tackling wind and running into his own players.
Bermuda has a compact formation, two defensive zones and TT playing backs and fwds...the new tactic is the smith or farrier would play a long cross field ball for Scotland or Daniel to trap and try to get across.
Folks it was bad.....nuttin was happening and then Whitley and Carlos tried to make things happen.
Both players would try to form a small triangle, take on players and shoot if the opportunity came.
Carlos beat one, he beat two, he beat three and after all the hard work had no one to cross to or made a total mess of the final ball.
With 10 minutes left Ince was forced to come off his line to thwart the Bermuda fwd who could have scored to make it 3-1.
Then another comedy...the game was stopped as the net for one of the goal posts was loose in the back. Stern John then tries to climb up and fix the net. The crowd shouting "that is not your wuk" Then eventually the groundsman Ralphie appears and Whitley has to lift him up and put him on his shoulders to help tie the net.....( You ever see shit so)
Our own players chasing a goal hadda give man boost and help groundsman tie up goal post net with 10 minutes left to play.
Bermuda then start to milk the clock and TT tried to wake up passing the ball around and playing it to Scotland and Sterns feet in the box.
People start to leave and at times I actually had to stop and count the number of TT players on the field because it looked like if we were playing with 8 men. Bermuda turned it up a notch and start to knock the ball around and we couldnt touch it or see our way. Their 4-5-1, TOTALLY dominating our 4-3-3 and we never looked like threatening.
What was mindblowing is that Maturana did not change the formation, did not make any positive attacking subs and looked like he was trying for damage control rather than getting options going fwd. But given the squad selected with only Roberts as a attacking sub...he was short on players and ideas.
5 Damn minutes to go and is only then TT look like they wanted to play ball. Stern then beat two men and squared for Scotland who hit it straight at the keeper in the 6 yard box and then the worse throwaway for the night came when stern after trapping a ball and beating the last defender one on one with the keeper who is already scrambling on the ground hits it wide in the six yard box.
WHen I tell you the whole stadium Cuss....For all the shit TT play tonight had Stern taken his chances we would have won the game 3-2.
Tweeet thats it game done, Bermuda start to jump up like if they win the world cup and TT players walking back to the dressing room normal. No kinda emotion, no shame no nuttin...is like if they ent care.
I ent know what to say.
But this cutarse is the best thing that coulda happen to us!
The sheep and the goats got seperated long time ago and we done line up by the abattoir and the butchers have they knives sharpening.
It will take a MIRACLE to beat Bermuda 2-0 away.
Is not now we ketching we arse to create chances, is not now we defence playing shit and is not now the midfield deficient.
TT has to step up their game big time in order for us to move on to the next phase.
As for me I will not be surprised if we are eliminated. It will come sooner than later in this campaign but I would rather it at the hands of the USA....not Bermuda.
Additionally I think Maturana and the Corneals have to go. Wim was a better bet, tactically and with the style of play. Even if we get past Bermuda we have a month to sort out ourselves. It is off season. A one month camp with some of the regular players will be enough to beat Cuba and Guatemala. The youths have shown time and again they are not ready for this level.
Our World Cup dreams will be dashed in one weeks time if we do not muster a 2-0 away win. It is not impossible by any means, but for this group and this coach it is a uphill task indeed.
after reading this..i almost want to believe some members of the team wanted to lose this game on purpose to prove a point..i dunno eh...still a very sad day for trini football..good report touches..
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thanks for the report touches...always look forward to it...sadly it is what it is...
after today's game we can only hope they wake up and smell the roses...ha...we all know better
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Thanks Touches
"I telling yuh is some big belley men with paunch was warming up."
the fellas on Power 102, at the end of the game when the Bermuda players were taking off their jerseys, said
"There are no 6 packs there" :rotfl: :rotfl:
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See this fawkery..
As I said. I have some beer bottle here.. I guh organize some pithoil and diesel.. Allyuh biring some channa..
Leh we firebomb that TTFF office..
This maturana joker hadda go.. We need a True international coach that is not easily influenced..
Geezus christ man.!!
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Thanks for the report.
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Dear Forumites,
It was only a matter of time...
....... I think Maturana and the Corneals have to go. Wim was a better bet, tactically and with the style of play. Even if we get past Bermuda we have a month to sort out ourselves. It is off season. A one month camp with some of the regular players will be enough to beat Cuba and Guatemala. The youths have shown time and again they are not ready for this level.
Our World Cup dreams will be dashed in one weeks time if we do not muster a 2-0 away win. It is not impossible by any means, but for this group and this coach it is a uphill task indeed.
Maturana and the Cornmeals must go. Umm hmm :beermug:
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See this fawkery..
As I said. I have some beer bottle here.. I guh organize some pithoil and diesel.. Allyuh biring some channa..
Leh we firebomb that TTFF office..
This maturana joker hadda go.. We need a True international coach that is not easily influenced..
Geezus christ man.!!
i done tell u i ready..i go drive and u pelt....
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Is Wim and Gary Hunt fault.
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See this fawkery..
As I said. I have some beer bottle here.. I guh organize some pithoil and diesel.. Allyuh biring some channa..
Leh we firebomb that TTFF office..
This maturana joker hadda go.. We need a True international coach that is not easily influenced..
Geezus christ man.!!
i done tell u i ready..i go drive and u pelt....
aye ...aye...the TWO of allya would do us more GOOD on de outside ;D
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aye ...aye...the TWO of allya would do us more GOOD on de outside ;D
Ah fed up ah de shit... AH fed up boy..
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Is Wim and Gary Hunt fault.
Yah think?? ::) ::)
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i hear yuh..i say we riot..i rel feeling to toss some molotov cocktail too...
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aye ...aye...the TWO of allya would do us more GOOD on de outside ;D
Ah fed up ah de shit... AH fed up boy..
i tell u...i ready to take one for me country...
d anger subside...
i utterly depressed...i think d bawling an crying about to start
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aye ...aye...the TWO of allya would do us more GOOD on de outside ;D
Ah fed up ah de shit... AH fed up boy..
Yes..............at times like this we need ah Forum Psychologist :D
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i hear yuh..i say we riot..i rel feeling to toss some molotov cocktail too...
Whe yuh livin, I guh pick yuh up.. I hav bout 8 beer bottle
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i hear yuh..i say we riot..i rel feeling to toss some molotov cocktail too...
Whe yuh livin, I guh pick yuh up.. I hav bout 8 beer bottle
i have the channa
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The only report I enjoy reading as much as Touches report is Lasana Liburd articles. Lasana go have a field day with this one....
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i hear yuh..i say we riot..i rel feeling to toss some molotov cocktail too...
Whe yuh livin, I guh pick yuh up.. I hav bout 8 beer bottle
i have the channa
I guh buy $200 worth of diesel.. Ent jake like da figure.. Stupess.s.
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Well I must b gettin doh care in meh old age but d Lakers lost on thursday hott meh more than dis loss. Nutten I saw leading 2 day made me comfortable. What I cyah understand is y 4 d life of me did dat man play a 3 5 2. D Defence is d weakest part of we game. D last time a defence eh make me cringe was Morris, Williams, Faustin and Frances. Since then is only pressure.
U know d saddest ting 4 me 2day was I saw meh boi Andrews came b d fence and talk 2 he partner Dennis over d fence just like me if I was a stalker fan.
I tink d only peeps who was feelin real worse than we on dis site was Sancho, Cyd, Andrews and Samuel who all looked like a friend had died.
Some good news I gettin Andrews 2 come speak 2 meh yutes sunday. I done speak 2 d intecessors because we need nuff prayers 2 beat Bermuda by 2 clear goals
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Well I must b gettin doh care in meh old age but d Lakers lost on thursday hott meh more than dis loss. Nutten I saw leading 2 day made me comfortable. What I cyah understand is y 4 d life of me did dat man play a 3 5 2. D Defence is d weakest part of we game. D last time a defence eh make me cringe was Morris, Williams, Faustin and Frances. Since then is only pressure.
U know d saddest ting 4 me 2day was I saw meh boi Andrews came b d fence and talk 2 he partner Dennis over d fence just like me if I was a stalker fan.
I tink d only peeps who was feelin real worse than we on dis site was Sancho, Cyd, Andrews and Samuel who all looked like a friend had died.
Some good news I gettin Andrews 2 come speak 2 meh yutes sunday. I done speak 2 d intecessors because we need nuff prayers 2 beat Bermuda by 2 clear goals
Daz what we reach to ?
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i hear yuh..i say we riot..i rel feeling to toss some molotov cocktail too...
Whe yuh livin, I guh pick yuh up.. I hav bout 8 beer bottle
And I have some unopened beer in mih fridge....if ah drown mih sorrows in dem....ah could bring bout 8 more bottles.....ah doh want to smile eh but.... ;D
OK....ah back to mih depressed state... :'(
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We trinis are the biggest jokers in the world, touches preaching for the past few games that the team playing extreme shit, men fighting him down and saying he negative and then they bigging up men like cupid, hyland, daniel, etc. based on performances against mediocre teams, man bawling maturana have real pedigree because he coach colombia in world cup and he is ah million times better than Wim because he giving the locals ah chance...scotland is ah boss although it appeared from all reports that he eh do anything worthwhile today.
now fast forward to the life after the cutarse from bermuda...maturana must go and the players eh ready...
just now ppl will start calling for yorke and latas to come out of retirement and then there will be idiots who will say that if hardest play we woulda beat bermuda.
I still think this current shit squad could get past bermuda but after that we have endless licks to get if jack warner continue with his blacklist.
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Touches
It must not have been easy to come home after what yuh just witness and write this.
Thanks fuh the report
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I sick tallman where that washing hands emoticon breds ah ready for it ,touches is this the team ,ah seeing 6 big belly man for sure .
(http://www.bermudafa.com/imgs/home/senior%20mens%20team%2001.jpg.JPG)
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Touches
It must not have been easy to come home after what yuh just witness and write this.
Thanks fuh the report
Touches predicted this shit weeks now.. He probably had this report written since de englan game fusshe knew de shit that was about to unfold..
Touches de Prophit..
Now we hada deprot Maturana back to his mother land and bess let the sw.net forumite coach oui.. Cause this what going wid de football is shit.
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When Touches say we playin man say he is a prophet of gloom and doom. Trinis doh like d truth we like man 2 lie 2 we.
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For sure Maturana have to go the arse cyah even speak English yet, and I sure Arsefield Corneal probably translates incorrectly with his Spanglish. Dem both definitely have to go. Bring Wim and Latapy as his assistant, at least Latas man oh shit!! He begging to be considered!!
As for Shits John boy I eh even going to waste meh time. I always tell meh friends that while other players get paid to play for T&T Stern have to be the one who does pay the coaches or do something to them to get played yes. From since 2005 in the qualifiers he was doing he shit, needing 15 chances to score 1 goal and thing, now like he get worse, worser or worsister than before yes! Disappointed by Scotty, thought he would have done better, and doh ask me why Buller Rana doh ever give Darryl Roberts a run. Just like against England, Roberts sub on for Jones and play better thans Shits John but yet still Shits John remain in the second half and had to beg to come off while Roberts came off at half time.
What does really go on with Shits John and them coaches boy!!??! And how come he never injured or get hold back from coming to play for T&T. It is as if the english teams eh like him. He never had a problem coming back, Yorke, Jones, Edwards, Lawrence all get blank from coming back sometimes... but the coach of Stern's english team get's on as it to say "ok Stern yeah take him let him go back to T&T to play he shitting up we side I want him to go play for his country" is like nobody want him but we lame ass coaches. That was the only peeve I had with the great Mircale man Beenhakker the fact that he let Shitsy play so much and we almost did not make it, remember when Shitsy miss the penalty vs. Mexico before scoring the winner. This is too much politics about keeping the coach and they keeping John I glad I did not waste my money today.
J.
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When Touches say we playin man say he is a prophet of gloom and doom. Trinis doh like d truth we like man 2 lie 2 we.
We love to lie to we self.
We like to eat shit and bawl how de curry tasting good.
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
2) Why bring on Stephen David for Telesford to continue a CDM role when he could have brought on Tinto..move Daniel into CM and Put Carlos on the LW..which he played at times in the game...
Then again it has the major issues like Selection...5 WC players on the 18 while at least 15 of the 23 from Germany could have been available... Then The Venue.. and so on etc etc... This country in a mess...This was the thing to save us... but now if it end's next Sunday... I dont know what any1 will have to look forward too
sad day
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Thank you for the report.
This has been my most depressing Sunday for the longest time, I could just imagine how it would've felt to actually have been there.
Bless.
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
2) Why bring on Stephen David for Telesford to continue a CDM role when he could have brought on Tinto..move Daniel into CM and Put Carlos on the LW..which he played at times in the game...
Then again it has the major issues like Selection...5 WC players on the 18 while at least 15 of the 23 from Germany could have been available... Then The Venue.. and so on etc etc... This county in a mess...This was the thing to save us... but now if it end's next Sunday... I dont know what any will have to look forward to
SM, ah hope yuh realize wha' yuh sayin' dey.
Daiz presuicidal thoughts dread. I eh sayin' you eh, but some comin' real close with thoughts like that.
Dis ting real profound. Why Jackula. Why.
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I telling yuh is some big belley men with paunch was warming up. They were in red, doing all different kinds of stuff and TT doing the usual.
Bermuda struck me as a fete match team until the first whistle. After the whistle it was onfirmed that their defense never played serious football but we did not take it to them. No joke.
We at home, in the opening WCQ, and we do not even have our own national anthem in our own stadium. Worse yet, they ent even get some kinda singer or artiste or someone with a clue of a singing voice. Is the same announcer hit we the Pat Gastagne composition...acapella...out of time...out of key...and he rush the last verse as he was feeling shame.
So small flag and no anthem....yes..whoever in charge of that should be fired!
Firing is too good for this person who is constantly embarassing our country. Talk done. This is nonsense.
TT switch to a 4-3-3 and Bermuda goes into a 4-5-1 formation compact and tight hoping to hit us on the break.
I thought it was a 4-4-2 formation with Scotland and Stern up front. Midfield of Carlos, Whitley, Keon Daniel Telesford at the start of the half.
Additionally I think Maturana and the Corneals have to go. Wim was a better bet, tactically and with the style of play.
I must agree with this statement 100%. I for one was making excuses for Matu thinking that he was still new on the job. But his inability to not only select the best of Trinbago or to put together a technical approach for this fete match side does not comfort me or make changes was glaring this evening. While watching the game I was listening to Alvin Corneal dog him on the radio for not making positive changes. I guess the love affair is over and Brutus is getting ready to drive home his dagger into Caesar's back.
I dont know if there will be a next time on this campaign.
Agreed. Not sure if we would be further embarassed if we do get by the Bermudans.
Blessings
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
Boy I ask de same question in another thread...WHY? WHY?....I begining to form a theory....the Bermudians pay off de TTFF.....either that or mih depressed state have mih paranoid....and ah need to go and sleep...if dat possible tonight...ah goh have recurring nightmares of Telesford escorting de big #13 into de box for de 1st Bermudian goal....laaawwddd fadder.... :'( :frustrated: :frustrated:
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i hope patriot walk with d biggest flag he could manage...cause we mite not even have one in bermuda...
i juss pull out the tequila if anyone wha pass..
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
2) Why bring on Stephen David for Telesford to continue a CDM role when he could have brought on Tinto..move Daniel into CM and Put Carlos on the LW..which he played at times in the game...
Then again it has the major issues like Selection...5 WC players on the 18 while at least 15 of the 23 from Germany could have been available... Then The Venue.. and so on etc etc... This county in a mess...This was the thing to save us... but now if it end's next Sunday... I dont know what any will have to look forward to
SM, ah hope yuh realize wha' yuh sayin' dey.
Daiz presuicidal thoughts dread. I eh sayin' you eh, but some comin' real close with thoughts like that.
Dis ting real profound. Why Jackula. Why.
lol no boyo... i meant as in the Country to get any better... we need a Qualifying Campaign... it is a great distraction for everyone ... without it..i fear the country will creep into further turmoil..
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D anthem fiasco is a good ting Wayne Cunnigham eh a Jehovah Witness because we would have had no anthem. We in a hott hott mess
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thanks for the report Touches.
serious, how hard is it to get the flag right? what next - flagpin? steups.
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Wim was a better bet, tactically and with the style of play.
Whisper that around here pardner.
Wim never coach nowhere and it have people who find he is a shit coach. Maturana on the other hand was a welcome addition to the programme.
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thanks touches...
i cant fathom getting knocked out next week.
That would mean almost a 4 year wait before we play a next world cup qualifier..
i eh know how i go deal with that nuh.
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What about Stern fixin d net. Dem fellas just keep gettin betta and betta
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Lower St John
It was a 4-3-3
Daniel end up like a fwd and he stay upfront he didnt trak back or cover.
2nd half was
Smith Hislop Lawrence Farrier
David
Carlos Whitley
Scotland Stern Daniel
See d gaps I have there is jess so they were playing...Daniel was up under stern plenty right next to him.
Smith and Carlos was arguing right tru.... Carlos not pulling wide to support the man so he have to play inside or hit it long. If he did give carlos wide it would be under pressure a hurried ball that he would have to chase.
Any Ball that was lost by the fwd 3 was picked up by the Bermuda defense or midfield we had nothing to pick up the scraps or battle it out.
Imagine our midfield did not make any interchanging passes, dummy, support or tru ball. Is the wingbacks hoofing it long or lawrence playing it to the fwds.
Also is long time I telling people Carlos cannot cross a ball good or consistently...he reaffirmed my stance.
Finally we wasting corners and free kicks...no imagination, no venom, men not even running in the box for the header.
Too much Hit and Hope.
Romauld aguillera and Trent Noel woulda be good additions to this squad to give some midfield bite. A good gold cup and Digicup by these players and they cyar get a bly.
Also put Keyno Thomas with Lawrence in the next game. Start Farrier and if anything put Telesford right back.
Play a middle 4 with Carlos, Whitley, Daniel and Roberts/tinto/guerra......overs Daniel
Stern and Scotland up front in a 4-4-2.
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
My guess would be to tailor the side to Carlos' strengths and the fact that we don't have a left back. Obviously Carlos wasn't around for the six games so they now decide to try it.
Honestly we should be looking to strengthen the defence and Carlos should be playing at right back with somebody in front of him in midfield. Also whoever is the best TnT left back in the pro-league should be playing, full-stop.
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ah hearing maturana is garbage but whappen to the players on the pitch and corneals influence in selection and team decisions? blaming everything on mats is rediculous, we had enough experience in the team to beat bermuda, so really the players are just at fault or even more for this loss
God is de BOSS....
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What experience in dat side d 5 men from 2006
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ah hearing maturana is garbage but whappen to the players on the pitch and corneals influence in selection and team decisions? blaming everything on mats is rediculous, we had enough experience in the team to beat bermuda, so really the players are just at fault or even more for this loss
God is de BOSS....
TI we had nothing in midfield and 3 in defense ,our pros are Carlos who playing shit ,Dennis who is the star player now and Stern and Jason who eint getting supplied .Muturana is ah c**t ,....yes I said It .....no good person who works for fifa ,would take a wukk from Jack Warner with out being a little corrupt them self ein T
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
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ah hearing maturana is garbage but whappen to the players on the pitch and corneals influence in selection and team decisions? blaming everything on mats is rediculous, we had enough experience in the team to beat bermuda, so really the players are just at fault or even more for this loss
God is de BOSS....
TI we had nothing in midfield and 3 in defense ,our pros are Carlos who playing shit ,Dennis who is the star player now and Stern and Jason who eint getting supplied .Muturana is ah c**t ,....yes I said It .....no good person who works for fifa ,would take a wukk from Jack Warner with out being a little corrupt them self ein T
but these same men saying hyland is a boss and whitley playing great, the england game the team ent play that bad lol, whappen all of a sudden its a horse of a diff colour, schupsss, some of these same men didint even support sancho for the world cup they said he should bench and let dog play instead, well now the man benching, our best defender, other than gray and man talking about the middle, we ent have no creative mid, bc guerra gone, so spare me the garbage.
God is de BOSS....
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
Daiz because god don t like ugly ,now f**k off .
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ah hearing maturana is garbage but whappen to the players on the pitch and corneals influence in selection and team decisions? blaming everything on mats is rediculous, we had enough experience in the team to beat bermuda, so really the players are just at fault or even more for this loss
God is de BOSS....
TI we had nothing in midfield and 3 in defense ,our pros are Carlos who playing shit ,Dennis who is the star player now and Stern and Jason who eint getting supplied .Muturana is ah c**t ,....yes I said It .....no good person who works for fifa ,would take a wukk from Jack Warner with out being a little corrupt them self ein T
but these same men saying hyland is a boss and whitley playing great, the england game the team ent play that bad lol, whappen all of a sudden its a horse of a diff colour, schupsss, some of these same men didint even support sancho for the world cup they said he should bench and let dog play instead, well now the man benching, our best defender, other than gray and man talking about the middle, we ent have no creative mid, bc guerra gone, so spare me the garbage.
God is de BOSS....
buddy u getting tie up yah know ,men on this site doh pick the team jed ,is muturana and alc**ts.
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Just made it back from the game depressed as ah mutha. touches was on the money with his report. murphies law was in full effect today, every thing that could've went wrong eventually did.
first of all the anthem sucked huge balls, the stadium is ah mini ball park just like the one in my neighborhood, stern john should be ashamed with his performance today since he threw away 2 easy sitters, the go ahead goal in the 1st half when he kicked it wide on a beauty of a cross from carlos, and the tieing goal with 3 mins left in the game that he also kicked wide.
jason scottland is ah waste of time, he's slow clumbsey and can't pass to save his a$$, darryl roberts would've been ah better option.
bottom line ! it would take a miracle to pull of 2-0, 3-1, or 4-2 victory in bermuda next sunday. can't see it happening with this squad that played today. farrier and whitley were the only 2 that played with heart skill and conviction. positive.
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
Daiz because god don t like ugly ,now f**k off .
We ugly but at least Bermuda didn't beat us at home. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Which one a we god dont like?
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
The commentator on Gol Tv was pointing out why the Reggae Boyz is a team that people love to watch since the 1998 World Cup. ;D
What's even funny during the half time show when the cheerleaders came unto the field he said the crowd of 40,000 was really being entertained. ;D The Office is a 35,000 seater so the other 5,000 must have been outside the stadium. :rotfl:
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
Daiz because god don t like ugly ,now f**k off .
We ugly but at least Bermuda didn't beat us at home. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Which one a we god dont like?
Jack Warner is we football god ,home grown talent have nothing to do with it now f**k off.
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Clayton ince should change his name to clayton imps, the 2 goals were his fault on a misscommunication with his defenders. what a sad day for T&T football, jack ah hope yuh proud of yuhself now.
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Ince doh communicate he does bark only bark at he players u cyah b bawlin at men all d time
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Yow lion paw and 2099 , not now dread , please lowwe the forum tonight nah boss, ah really not in the mood to hear allyuh fardder. just cool wid dat seen.
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OUR DEMISE STARTED IN 2006 AND LIKE JAMAICA BEFORE US WE ARE BOTTOMING OUT AND TO A LOWER RANKED TEAM
SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME, I was Out celebrating father's day and came home expecting good news and this is what ah reading STEUUPPPPPPPSSSS!
MATURANA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING! BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE SOURCE OF THIS WHOLE PROBLEM IS
THAT MUDDERR$%%$^ JACK AND %^^%&^& CAMPS AND THEY %$#^#@ BLACKLIST
THIS IS THE RESULT OF JACK'S HARD WORK AND ANOTHER FAILURE TO MARK TTFF 100 YEARS OF DIS-SERVICE TO THE NATIONAL TEAM
We were willing to give our locals a chance to prove themselves and it seems every game shows up how bad they really are and inability to step up to big games. Our qualifiers are at stake fellas if we cannot handle Bermuda on we own grounds, how we beating anybody else? CORNEAL CANNOT COACH OR ASSIST OR WHATEVER THE HELL HE DOES, HIS TRACK RECORD IS ABYSSMAL YET HE IS PART OF OUR TECHNICAL STAFF WTF!!!!
WE NEED TO PUT OUT THE CALL NOW FOR ANOTHER FOREIGN COACH OR STICK WITH THE DUTCH FOR ASSISTANCE AND PUT OUT AN ALL POINTS BULLETIN FOR
SANCHO, BIRCHIE, AVERY, GRAY, CORNELL, SPANN, THEOBOLD SCOTT SEALY, AND YORKE FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE
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How the faack yuh go play ah leage one striker and a championship striker over an eridise striker. utter maddness!!!
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Yow lion paw and 2099 , not now dread , please lowwe the forum tonight nah boss, ah really not in the mood to hear allyuh fardder. just cool wid dat seen.
Boss, be mad at your own ppl for not turning out. We, the fans were the reason why Bahamas got clobbered. This was perhaps their first game in a huge, packed stadium. They were booed whenever they touched the ball. The occasion was just too much for them. I'm sure if we didn't show up they would've fared better.
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Brudder if u follow TNT football u go know dat d crowd dat was dey is d crowd dat does b ar dem ealy games. D only ting is dat it eh lookin like we go have any late games
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How the faack yuh go play ah leage one striker and a championship striker over an eridise striker. utter maddness!!!
all of dem is shit ...it doh matter :devil:
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Boss, be mad at your own ppl for not turning out. We, the fans were the reason why Bahamas got clobbered. This was perhaps their first game in a huge, packed stadium. They were booed whenever they touched the ball. The occasion was just too much for them. I'm sure if we didn't show up they would've fared better.
You do have a fair point, Jamaica has enjoyed much better stadium support in at least my lifetime. People only come to T&T games en masse for the big games. Diehards attend the others, and you're lucky we get a couple thousand. Our record of attendance has been poor in my lifetime at least. Digicel cup, Shell Cup, virtually all early WCQ games have half empty stadiums. As much as the price is high for tickets, it is not solely the ticket cost to blame. People pay $200 easy for a fete, if people were passionate enough they would push hard to attend the game.
But I won't blame a single person for not showing up, especially under current conditions. On the field performances and the off the field antics are really hurting the most staunch supporters and patriots.
This has been a terrible weekend for Trinidad and Tobago. 7 murders (not including sunday) and this performance to top it off. I wonder if people realise what sport can really do for a country.
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Trinis does support party. It had more peeps at d JA game because Machel was dey. Is d party deh went 2 doh get tie up like some crab
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
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i was saddened today to hear of the bullshit score line. however, i am elated that we lost this game. it finally prove to me that we not trying to qualify for the south african world cup but the one after that. no way can we qualify for a world cup in four years time playing the players we are. we ketching we ass to beat caribbean teams...usa just put 8 on barbados!!! i hope jack and the ttff is happy with whats going on. we have proven players who want to represent the country and cant because of nonsense. i am sick and tired of the nonsense!!! i hope we lose in bermuda and end this fiasco quickly, instead of prolonging the agony. people talking about stern missing, and yes he shud of bury the chances he getting...but we have much more bigger problems than stern! NO MIDFIELD!!! no one is willing to step up in de middle and help support the strikers when they have the ball. is like they not fit enough to run in the attack and run back to defend!! defense is even more shit. im sorry but our PFL and college players are not ready for this level. it has been proven game in and game out!! so i really hope we end this nonsense in bermuda...that way we can fulfil jacks plan of missing this world cup and focusing on the next!!! :beermug: :beermug:
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Hello sayin is 2014 is my tag line like ah luv it by u know who. It was so unbelievable we back d midfield with 5 men but like is netball dey was playin dey could not move from d centre line
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Touches - Your take on Kareem Smith at right back?
He seems to feed on confidence and looks willing to overlap at times, but his pace dread...
I feel sorry for that rastaman yesterday afternoon at times, but he did have some good moments.
Hyland - U really find he was that ineffective on the wing? During the warm ups, I was wondering if we would ever see Carlos switching to the left wing as Beenhakker did a couple years ago.Hyland had a couple enterprising runs on both wings man. You could see this yute's class though.
On a slightly material and unrelated event, u see the cap Scottie hit the man in the box with his back to the defender and the ball rolling toward him?? But I was so demoralised at that point all I do was a quiet clap.
You are spot on about Bermuda being a bunch of big belly red men. It is almost scandalous that we lost to them yesterday.
I am confident that natural order will return on Sunday and the better team prevail.
We know that chances will come. I just hope Stern and Scottie and Roberts dont have another off day.
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
I echo your sentiments man.
It seemed to me from the comments that we created much more scoring opportunities. If that is correct, then we should prevail in Bermuda.
For the fellas that saw the game, did we in fact create more scoring opportunities?
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This is why I loved Wim....he at least stood up for what was right. He wasnt going to let Jack and his cronies get in the way of doing the best job possible. He would fight for every bit of space to perform his job properly.
This fool Maturana is a puppet for Corneal and Warner
Thanks for the report, Touches
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What i didnt get today was...
1) Why try a 3-5-2 in a WCQ? when you had 6 friendlies before and never tried it..
My guess would be to tailor the side to Carlos' strengths and the fact that we don't have a left back. Obviously Carlos wasn't around for the six games so they now decide to try it.
Honestly we should be looking to strengthen the defence and Carlos should be playing at right back with somebody in front of him in midfield. Also whoever is the best TnT left back in the pro-league should be playing, full-stop.
why should they select the best left back in the pro league instead of the simply the best left back?
why ppl keep insisiting that carlos should play in defence? carlos simply need to come back and defend like any other sensible midfielder when his team does not have the ball.
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Play Carlos in d defence because dat is d weakest part of we game although u eh go feel so because d coach play 3 5 2. All d men who sure we eh go score in Bermuda please give me d lotto numbers it eh go b gambling it go b a sure ting.
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I just glad i didn't spend my money and go the game again. If i only knew that shit was going on in there, i would have stayed from home and pelt some big stone on the field and buss a few heads. Father's day keep me home and my son was crying for no reason that i could see a lot of the day but i'm sure it was a better spent day than if i had gone that mess of a game. The worst thing though is that anthem thing, if that is real, boy oh boy we're in more shit than anybody would have thought. Right now it looks like the players will be at home in T&T watching Africa on tv.
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Morning all
I still depressed about yesterday...Imagine I couldnt even drink a beer to cool down meh frustrations as all the beer sell out....before half-time.
Is one thing to know in yuh head yuh team ent ready as yet. But to see the la la unfold live and direct in front yuh eye is a bitter thing indeed.
We have 4 short comings....1) The players on the field not up to scratch....even Hyland. Hyland is simply potential right now....great potential....world class even...but the potential has not been nurtured, honed, released or I am sure even realised by himself. I dont think he himself know how good he is or what he is capable of and he will never know playing at the level he currently operating in. Also too I not sure of his football brain, he have skill but I find at times he does operate duncy in regards to his decision making on the field. But in time he will develop into a great player. He has not passed thru the Wars or played in any big games yet to be battle hardened and have the required experience.
Daniel need to get a rest. Telesford tries hard and plays with heart but he ent up to scratch. All the defence except tallest ent ready. Hislop and Smith is the best of the lot but they are not World Cup Standard.
2) The system is not one that creating opportunities. We controlling the ball in the back under no pressure and not going forward. Any time we try to move fwd we are completly shut down by opposing forwards or midfielders. Also there is no midfield to win the ball or create opportunities.
3) Attitude of players.....You could see it have real ego issues and disharmony in this squad. Especially between the pros and the locals. The pros not pulling their weight and doing the correct things and they actually cussing and abusing the local players when they making errors. I find the cuss is deserved in most instances but they not playing for each other...nobody trying to make a man pass look better, nobody willing to give the extra fight or run, is a stand up and shake head.
I see a few instances when Ince give a ball to a man and when he mess up just hold his head in disbelief. Carlos and Smith like they ent the best of Friends, Stern and the middle ent no friends neither. Telesford and Hislop get the world of cuss from Ince and boy it just have no kinda comraderie or spirit in this squad. There is no trust.
4) Finally leadership...no body stepping up and being vocal on the field, standing up for his teammates, issuing instructions and finally leading by example and let his playing do the talking. Whitley trying his best and I must applaud him for all his effort, but he doesnt have the respect it seems of the foreign based pros on the team.
Also he is not a vocal player and does not communicate much with those around him.
I would give Lawrence the armband in the next match.
I think the entire team needs to have a good thrash out session. Let man cuss one another, fight, get all the bad feelings out. Then put it aside and focus on the task at hand.
We are Trinis...we like to do things the hard way and give people heart attack..... We will score 2 in the last 5 minutes iand win 3-1.
Then it will be joy and celebration.
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We are Trinis...we like to do things the hard way and give people heart attack..... We will score 2 in the last 5 minutes iand win 3-1.
I hope so.... Nice insight as usual...
Not really shocked by what happened, based on your reports from the last few games, I felt that this was in the making, but did not want to believe it...
I have a few Bermudan friends I went to school with and before the game they wanted to make a friendly wager, I declined saying I did not want to take their money, but deep down was not sure if we would pull it off...
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We trinis are the biggest jokers in the world, touches preaching for the past few games that the team playing extreme shit, men fighting him down and saying he negative and then they bigging up men like cupid, hyland, daniel, etc. based on performances against mediocre teams, man bawling maturana have real pedigree because he coach colombia in world cup and he is ah million times better than Wim because he giving the locals ah chance...scotland is ah boss although it appeared from all reports that he eh do anything worthwhile today.
now fast forward to the life after the cutarse from bermuda...maturana must go and the players eh ready...
just now ppl will start calling for yorke and latas to come out of retirement and then there will be idiots who will say that if hardest play we woulda beat bermuda.
I still think this current shit squad could get past bermuda but after that we have endless licks to get if jack warner continue with his blacklist.
Maturana is not even rated in his own country...
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Off the ball running and work rate is what is killing us. You can't play through balls if everyone standing up in one spot behind their marker. Therefore we can't create chances. We always depend on a moment of brilliance. Notice how Latas is always free to get the ball... this is because he always moves to put himself in space.
That is what Beenie brought us, organization and work rate.
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Yuh had to be blind to see that the team is fractured. After the warm ups, Carlos, Whitley, Tallest and Stern stay on the field just kicking around the ball. Nothing special. Someone from the administration had to come out and call them in and them men just stay kicking and then saunter into the dressing room. Ten minutes later they on the field, so that in itself tell yuh that they did not want to hear any coaches last minute talk or bond with the team in the dressing room.
My two cents, is that all the work done by Beenie Man (and Wim) in at least making our defense decent and capable of good showings on a big stage has gone down the drain in less than 6-8 months. That is inexcusable noting that Anton has been a constant.
I made the statement since the Jamaica game that Hyland needs to stop reading the papers, he definitely has talent but he is far from a finish product. Folks on this forum don't help the situation since man still wanting to see a rusty broken spanner that Hyland try against an attacking midfield player as Gerard. Pleeeease.
Could we win by two goals in Bermuda - Without a doubt. That big belly red man fete match team deserved to win yesterday because we diod not play to win but let us get serious they really did not do anything to warrant us not believing that we cannot travel to Bermuda and get the result. They won on Sunday and that is all. I am more concerned with what will happen after Sunday regardless of the result.
I will make a statement that some will get upset with but say what... If Carlos is no longer interested in playing for the national team, simply say so and not tarnish the good memories he has created so far. Carlos appeared totally uninterested for major portions of the game. And has been constantly exposing the wing back by the amount of space between the two. England killed us down his side, Jamaica did the same and it appeared that Bermuda scouted us well since they did the same in the first half and scored within six minutes. Not to mention the amount of ta ta he supplied from set plays. None of the plays threatened Bermuda. None. Dreadful. Only Carlos alone is to blame in that department.
There is hoope since I am sure we can get a decent score on the road against this team. But what's next......
Blessing
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
I echo your sentiments man.
It seemed to me from the comments that we created much more scoring opportunities. If that is correct, then we should prevail in Bermuda.
For the fellas that saw the game, did we in fact create more scoring opportunities?
At the end of de day goals win games.....as it stands the record will show T&T 1 Bermuda 2.... nobody eh go care about no scoring opportunities....
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
I echo your sentiments man.
It seemed to me from the comments that we created much more scoring opportunities. If that is correct, then we should prevail in Bermuda.
For the fellas that saw the game, did we in fact create more scoring opportunities?
I agree with that prognosis. Over two legs we should beat Bermuda, even with this bunch of players but in my mind this particular tie is immaterial.
Any team could have a bad performance but if we had our best squad developing as it should have been a bad result probably would not have resulted in a home loss to Bermuda.
What the result shows, for those who did not want to see, is that WC qualification is a fairy tale that will not end nicely this time around.
And to think just last week men was posting about TnT chances in the Hex.
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After reading all dem comments, ah hadda talk meh mind too....
Firstly, ah disagree wid de men who want to start blaming Ince for de loss......Ince has been doing an exceptional job. Is not now Ince screaming at men....and he does scream at even de biggest ah players when dey doing shit.....Everybody does get dat......And how yuh goh blame ah goal on ah man who get knock out unconscious.....all yuh good we!
Finally, I doh know what all yuh worrying up yuhself so for.....We going to beat Bermuda by de 2 clear goals.....Same Uncle Jack all yuh bad talking, goh make it happen........Is nutting for Jack to buy de island ah Bermuda, far less de football team.....Come on peeps. Stop worrying. It have no way after all dah stadium comotion, that Jack go make de campaigne end so soon. Even if it mean to make up a rule where de losing team could enter a qualification lottery heading straight to de final.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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I think the entire team needs to have a good thrash out session. Let man cuss one another, fight, get all the bad feelings out. Then put it aside and focus on the task at hand.
We are Trinis...we like to do things the hard way and give people heart attack..... We will score 2 in the last 5 minutes iand win 3-1.
Then it will be joy and celebration.
Touches,
If only it were that easy eh, well I hope yuh right wee... I honestly think if it ent bermuda it will be at the hands of someone else. Players who we were supposed to build up from the last campaign have been shutout and some have taken back steps by themselves. Some individuals who play the game have not grasped the opportunity and moved forward, getting caught up in tra-la-la (i.e. theobald).... opportunities in life dont come by often, yuh make yuh own luck, these guys need to get hungry!
Also its easy and warrants little merit in me being a monday morning quarterback, and lambasting the coaching staff about using a 3-5-2 formation, but I am going do it anyway... what the hell were they thinking, it is clear that they underestimated Bermuda's team and figured they throw any 11 out there and get a favorable result. WE SHOULD NEVER PLAY 3-5-2. We don't have the personell, technical ability, experience and speed in defence for us to run 3-5-2.
Honestly I thnk the most important thing for our players now, is to try and get abroad as soon as possible, because development is not happening at home. Go to North America, Central America, South America... just go if yuh could make side, doh worry about money right now... go for two years get that much needed experience...
Touches, Thanks once again for the match report, if only our play were as clever as your report.
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Touches thanks for yuh report...much appreciated...both you and stevie wonder have been predicting this downward spiral much to the chagrin of others...
I can only hope that the team can rebound from this defeat :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
I echo your sentiments man.
It seemed to me from the comments that we created much more scoring opportunities. If that is correct, then we should prevail in Bermuda.
For the fellas that saw the game, did we in fact create more scoring opportunities?
At the end of de day goals win games.....as it stands the record will show T&T 1 Bermuda 2.... nobody eh go care about no scoring opportunities....
I agree but you missed my point. Any coach in a loss would look to see if the team created scoring opportunities. You cannot win if you do not shoot and you also cannot win if you do not create opportunities. My point was that given the opportunities we created we will score. Yes, we did not score yesterday but we will score.
Who want to bet Bermuda getting at least 3 on Sunday?
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Then another comedy...the game was stopped as the net for one of the goal posts was loose in the back. Stern John then tries to climb up and fix the net. The crowd shouting "that is not your wuk" Then eventually the groundsman Ralphie appears and Whitley has to lift him up and put him on his shoulders to help tie the net....
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Oh my gawwwd.....yuh hadda laugh oui or else you will sob like ah widow
ONLEEEE IN SWEET T&T
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Then another comedy...the game was stopped as the net for one of the goal posts was loose in the back. Stern John then tries to climb up and fix the net. The crowd shouting "that is not your wuk" Then eventually the groundsman Ralphie appears and Whitley has to lift him up and put him on his shoulders to help tie the net.....( You ever see shit so)
Our own players chasing a goal hadda give man boost and help groundsman tie up goal post net with 10 minutes left to play.
This real jokey-Is Ralphie yuh call dey. Long me ain't hear that man name-he about 60 years old by now
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Contrary to most I still say the sky is not falling... the universe will be restored to it's proper balance next Sunday.
true. allyuh doh panic. this was just a fluke.
and if we doh make it, then we doh deserve to be in the next round.
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Brudder Ralphie d number 1 lacky is around still
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1000 fans man? Thats sad. That's why Trini cant paly ball. They dont have fans. JA take football way more seriously and that's why we're better. Can you imagine? We lost to Grenada and we almost had a full house for this game still. On top of all that, most of the island was getting beat up by thunderstorms and we still came out in full effect. I left National Stadium looking like I fell in a swimming pool.
Yard fi Life!!!
You peeps need to support u team man. How can you be our rivals when u dont have fans?
Why you think it was only a 1,000 fans,simply because everybody say when real competition reach then we coming out,not believing for a second that a shit side like bermuda could beat us.............
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Morning all
I still depressed about yesterday...Imagine I couldnt even drink a beer to cool down meh frustrations as all the beer sell out....before half-time.
Is one thing to know in yuh head yuh team ent ready as yet. But to see the la la unfold live and direct in front yuh eye is a bitter thing indeed.
We have 4 short comings....1) The players on the field not up to scratch....even Hyland. Hyland is simply potential right now....great potential....world class even...but the potential has not been nurtured, honed, released or I am sure even realised by himself. I dont think he himself know how good he is or what he is capable of and he will never know playing at the level he currently operating in. Also too I not sure of his football brain, he have skill but I find at times he does operate duncy in regards to his decision making on the field. But in time he will develop into a great player. He has not passed thru the Wars or played in any big games yet to be battle hardened and have the required experience.
Daniel need to get a rest. Telesford tries hard and plays with heart but he ent up to scratch. All the defence except tallest ent ready. Hislop and Smith is the best of the lot but they are not World Cup Standard.
2) The system is not one that creating opportunities. We controlling the ball in the back under no pressure and not going forward. Any time we try to move fwd we are completly shut down by opposing forwards or midfielders. Also there is no midfield to win the ball or create opportunities.
3) Attitude of players.....You could see it have real ego issues and disharmony in this squad. Especially between the pros and the locals. The pros not pulling their weight and doing the correct things and they actually cussing and abusing the local players when they making errors. I find the cuss is deserved in most instances but they not playing for each other...nobody trying to make a man pass look better, nobody willing to give the extra fight or run, is a stand up and shake head.
I see a few instances when Ince give a ball to a man and when he mess up just hold his head in disbelief. Carlos and Smith like they ent the best of Friends, Stern and the middle ent no friends neither. Telesford and Hislop get the world of cuss from Ince and boy it just have no kinda comraderie or spirit in this squad. There is no trust.
4) Finally leadership...no body stepping up and being vocal on the field, standing up for his teammates, issuing instructions and finally leading by example and let his playing do the talking. Whitley trying his best and I must applaud him for all his effort, but he doesnt have the respect it seems of the foreign based pros on the team.
Also he is not a vocal player and does not communicate much with those around him.
I would give Lawrence the armband in the next match.
I think the entire team needs to have a good thrash out session. Let man cuss one another, fight, get all the bad feelings out. Then put it aside and focus on the task at hand.
We are Trinis...we like to do things the hard way and give people heart attack..... We will score 2 in the last 5 minutes iand win 3-1.
Then it will be joy and celebration.
This is what I have been saying. The youth have the potential but his decision making is very poor. When he get this part of his game on, he will be flying. I don't know who can work with him in T&T but he needs to get this part down quickly.
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well, look what T&T football come to that the best thing we can look forward to when our national senior team is playing, is a "D Touches Match Report" from a federation's "unofficial" website. (I am in no way, denigrating our beloved forum here eh. I am simply making a point.)
I expected that we would have alot of salt to suck before we could ever re-visit our better football days as a nation. I just would never in a million years have expected to have Bermuda putin' it in we mout'.
As usual, Touches, top class descriptive commentary that is honest and brutal. Ah see some people try to copy yuh wit dey own boring intelectual attempt at a match report.......yuh does teach?
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Touches....your post is the absolute Truff!!!
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Oh WIM WIM where are you
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Touches, well done. I am still speechless at this result and was not able to see the game but I do not want to after reading your report.
I only hope that we can get the needed result in Bermuda and not end up in one ah dey "Triangle".
However, if we cannot deliver we may have to consider it an early blessing in disguise; since it will avoid us further embarrassment at the next stage of the qualifiers.
What a disappointing result..........
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Oh WIM WIM where are you
Boss man, u stop lingering on our site since yesterday?