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Title: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Touches on June 17, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
Watch meh nah,

The fella really have smarts for days.

If we are playing all our games away in the US...how would the US authorities deal with Cuba coming across to play our "home" match there.

1/2 the side might defect before they step on the field.

Thus we play a weakened side or get points for them forfeiting.

Advantage TT

Brilliant Jack.......... Brilliant !!!!!

Now back to reality and taking care of Bermuda on Sunday.

Carry On.
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 08:40:19 AM
and we playing in miami, the ex-pat population for trinis there must be 80000 at least, so not only cubans selling out the match but ex-pats from tt :devil:

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: marcus on June 17, 2008, 08:44:12 AM
I live in the states and would love to see TnT play a WCQ....

but my greed and excitment to see more WCQs does not outweigh my patriotism to Trinidad and Tobago...

Its is not right to play away from home soil!
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: weary1969 on June 17, 2008, 08:44:41 AM
Yeah TI but all doh Raul eh Fidel u tink he go agree 2 dat game it go play in Venezuela and more ah we will go as we can take d ferry from Mobs and go across
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 08:47:17 AM
I live in the states and would love to see TnT play a WCQ....

but my greed and excitment to see more WCQs does not outweigh my patriotism to Trinidad and Tobago...

Its is not right to play away from home soil!

allyuh talking but when the game 2 days away, yuh booking ticket and car pooling to see the game, watch and see, if you dont go, it have 20-30000 who will, i willing to bet that, bc trinidad never play a wcq in areas where there is a high concentration of trinis, miami being one, dc being another and of course new york, i dey for sure if we playing in miami and thousands of others, you think jw dont know that  :devil:

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: marcus on June 17, 2008, 08:55:42 AM
I live in the states and would love to see TnT play a WCQ....

but my greed and excitment to see more WCQs does not outweigh my patriotism to Trinidad and Tobago...

Its is not right to play away from home soil!

allyuh talking but when the game 2 days away, yuh booking ticket and car pooling to see the game, watch and see, if you dont go, it have 20-30000 who will, i willing to bet that, bc trinidad never play a wcq in areas where there is a high concentration of trinis, miami being one, dc being another and of course new york, i dey for sure if we playing in miami and thousands of others, you think jw dont know that  :devil:

God is de BOSS....


Nobody arguing that fact.... game will definitely be played in a high concentration city with TnT ex-pats... But anywhere that there are TnT peoples there is a high correlation to having large Latin american population.... its a mute point! The Alpha return to TTFA's pocket will be the the total increase in gate entrants, and that Alpha is capitalised most from the latin population...

I will certainly go the game if its in the USA.... but if I had a choice of me seeing the game in the USA or inot seeing the game because it was at home.... I will sacirfice my needs for it to be home.... 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 09:00:12 AM
I live in the states and would love to see TnT play a WCQ....

but my greed and excitment to see more WCQs does not outweigh my patriotism to Trinidad and Tobago...

Its is not right to play away from home soil!

allyuh talking but when the game 2 days away, yuh booking ticket and car pooling to see the game, watch and see, if you dont go, it have 20-30000 who will, i willing to bet that, bc trinidad never play a wcq in areas where there is a high concentration of trinis, miami being one, dc being another and of course new york, i dey for sure if we playing in miami and thousands of others, you think jw dont know that  :devil:

God is de BOSS....


Nobody arguing that fact.... game will definitely be played in a high concentration city with TnT ex-pats... But anywhere that there are TnT peoples there is a high correlation to having large Latin american population.... its a mute point! The Alpha return to TTFA's pocket will be the the total increase in gate entrants, and that Alpha is capitalised most from the latin population...

I will certainly go the game if its in the USA.... but if I had a choice of me seeing the game in the USA or inot seeing the game because it was at home.... I will sacirfice my needs for it to be home.... 100% of the time.

i feel the same way, but the games home and look at the turnout? where the hell is the support, you might as well play in the US, but i agree otherwise but i not in charge and i might as well take advantage of supporting my national team.

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: R45 on June 17, 2008, 09:05:16 AM
Watch meh nah,

The fella really have smarts for days.

If we are playing all our games away in the US...how would the US authorities deal with Cuba coming across to play our "home" match there.

1/2 the side might defect before they step on the field.

Thus we play a weakened side or get points for them forfeiting.

Advantage TT

Brilliant Jack.......... Brilliant !!!!!

Now back to reality and taking care of Bermuda on Sunday.

Carry On.

lol I needed a laugh
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 17, 2008, 09:12:43 AM
Watch meh nah,

The fella really have smarts for days.

If we are playing all our games away in the US...how would the US authorities deal with Cuba coming across to play our "home" match there.

1/2 the side might defect before they step on the field.

Thus we play a weakened side or get points for them forfeiting.

Advantage TT

Brilliant Jack.......... Brilliant !!!!!

Now back to reality and taking care of Bermuda on Sunday.

Carry On.

lol I needed a laugh

agreed hehe...

Anyway..If we playing the games away we should play them in Toronto cuz we have nuff Trini's dere and if we lay it in Miami vs Guatemala and Cuba it will be like a home match for Cuba and Guatemala due to the amount of dem living in the States.... In Toronto will have a greater number of Trini's

(Lightbulb!) Settle the politics...Get use of the HCS and play the game in Trinidad where it is supposed to be!  >:(
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 09:16:15 AM
Watch meh nah,

The fella really have smarts for days.

If we are playing all our games away in the US...how would the US authorities deal with Cuba coming across to play our "home" match there.

1/2 the side might defect before they step on the field.

Thus we play a weakened side or get points for them forfeiting.

Advantage TT

Brilliant Jack.......... Brilliant !!!!!

Now back to reality and taking care of Bermuda on Sunday.

Carry On.

lol I needed a laugh

agreed hehe...

Anyway..If we playing the games away we should play them in Toronto cuz we have nuff Trini's dere and if we lay it in Miami vs Guatemala and Cuba it will be like a home match for Cuba and Guatemala due to the amount of dem living in the States.... In Toronto will have a greater number of Trini's

(Lightbulb!) Settle the politics...Get use of the HCS and play the game in Trinidad where it is supposed to be! >:(

family, it have more trinis in new york, so nyc will be a good fixture but it also have plenty other people dey too, toronto is the same but if it play at bmo it will be sold out, canada will not have home advantage.

God is de BOSS...
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: ricky on June 17, 2008, 09:22:57 AM
Gino you are talking shit
latinos will out number trinis in any stadium in north america, probably by 10-1
apart from a small section, when trinidad had any size support in NA? toronto included
you think foreign trinis who ent follow the team spending any kind of money to go see football? steupps
we playing 8 road games end of story (if we make it)
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 09:33:18 AM
Gino you are talking shit
latinos will out number trinis in any stadium in north america, probably by 10-1
apart from a small section, when trinidad had any size support in NA? toronto included
you think foreign trinis who ent follow the team spending any kind of money to go see football? steupps
we playing 8 road games end of story (if we make it)

trinis will still support and i know the latin americans will outnumber us, i never disputed that, even if we playing 8 road games, plenty times in the past these rounds of qualifying, no one was supporting in tt, i know that for a fact, look at the damn attendance at marvin lee for example, thats pathetic, jw is jw, unless someone else putting their money where their mouth is and the govt will support that group, jw will rule

God is de BOSS...
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: ricky on June 17, 2008, 09:48:14 AM
Gino you are talking shit
latinos will out number trinis in any stadium in north america, probably by 10-1
apart from a small section, when trinidad had any size support in NA? toronto included
you think foreign trinis who ent follow the team spending any kind of money to go see football? steupps
we playing 8 road games end of story (if we make it)

trinis will still support and i know the latin americans will outnumber us, i never disputed that, even if we playing 8 road games, plenty times in the past these rounds of qualifying, no one was supporting in tt, i know that for a fact, look at the damn attendance at marvin lee for example, thats pathetic, jw is jw, unless someone else putting their money where their mouth is and the govt will support that group, jw will rule

God is de BOSS...

you make it sound like we never played in NA before
go back and check attendance figures for TNT games in NA
if a sections of 2000 show up the doing REAL well
we ent drawing 2000 at home we not going to draw that on the road
all jack seeing is $ from the latinos that is all
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 17, 2008, 09:59:00 AM
Gino you are talking shit
latinos will out number trinis in any stadium in north america, probably by 10-1
apart from a small section, when trinidad had any size support in NA? toronto included
you think foreign trinis who ent follow the team spending any kind of money to go see football? steupps
we playing 8 road games end of story (if we make it)

trinis will still support and i know the latin americans will outnumber us, i never disputed that, even if we playing 8 road games, plenty times in the past these rounds of qualifying, no one was supporting in tt, i know that for a fact, look at the damn attendance at marvin lee for example, thats pathetic, jw is jw, unless someone else putting their money where their mouth is and the govt will support that group, jw will rule

God is de BOSS...

you make it sound like we never played in NA before
go back and check attendance figures for TNT games in NA
if a sections of 2000 show up the doing REAL well
we ent drawing 2000 at home we not going to draw that on the road
all jack seeing is $ from the latinos that is all


i agree about the latinos but real trinis go show up anyways, half of them dont even know what the hell going on, fuss they not even keeping up with we football.

God is de BOSS...
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: kiffysmooth on June 17, 2008, 10:10:48 AM
better surface, better control, better game.  As Beenhaker say...is de same piece ah green rectangle anywhere yuh go....it have nutting like home advantage...and das probably de same mentality de Bermudans and dem had.  But I not saying I radder play in de US, I jes saying dat de crowd situation not suppose to matter.  But what does matter, is de type of surface.  So if de Jack boy argument is de surface....den ah could hear him out.  If it is ah profit making venture...den hull he Mu#$% C*&%^
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: dinho on June 17, 2008, 10:14:02 AM
better surface, better control, better game.  As Beenhaker say...is de same piece ah green rectangle anywhere yuh go....it have nutting like home advantage...and das probably de same mentality de Bermudans and dem had.  But I not saying I radder play in de US, I jes saying dat de crowd situation not suppose to matter.  But what does matter, is de type of surface.  So if de Jack boy argument is de surface....den ah could hear him out.  If it is ah profit making venture...den hull he Mu#$% C*&%^

:bs:
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: truetrini on June 17, 2008, 10:15:59 AM
so Cuba go js sit down and take dat?

steups

Jack is ah C U N-T
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Bakes on June 17, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
I live in the states and would love to see TnT play a WCQ....

but my greed and excitment to see more WCQs does not outweigh my patriotism to Trinidad and Tobago...

Its is not right to play away from home soil!

allyuh talking but when the game 2 days away, yuh booking ticket and car pooling to see the game, watch and see, if you dont go, it have 20-30000 who will, i willing to bet that, bc trinidad never play a wcq in areas where there is a high concentration of trinis, miami being one, dc being another and of course new york, i dey for sure if we playing in miami and thousands of others, you think jw dont know that  :devil:

God is de BOSS....

That's because jack know that no matter where we play it sure to have some mooks like you willing to help fatten he pocket.
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Jah Gol on June 17, 2008, 02:47:43 PM
I wouldn't blame any foreign based Trini who goes to see one of our WCQs in Miami or NY or whatever. Allyuh is Trini and is T&T will be playing so why allyuh mustn't go. However the ethics behind the move is non-existent. I condemn that decision outright. Only countries at war or who  lack facilities should have to  do that. Its a political move and nothing else.I support the MOS putting the squeeze on the TTFF , doh mind Hunt inexperienced and dotish. 

Anyway it is entirely possible that we may not even have to play anymore matches after Sunday. 
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Brownsugar on June 17, 2008, 02:57:05 PM
Folks why we even discussing which city in North America de games will be played??  Dey call dem HOME games for ah reason!!..

F U Jack and all yuh cock sucking croonies too!!!.... >:(
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: mukumsplau on June 17, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
how we goin an play US in d US?...we cud probably play dat one in Cuba
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Fyzoman on June 17, 2008, 04:28:37 PM
we really jokey in truth yes.....yuh could imagine Jack really going to FIFA wid dis stupidness?!?!?
Sepp dem go be rolling on de floor wid laughter at Jack.
One amount ah stadium in de country, petitioning to hold dis tournament and dat tournament, and allyuh want to host WCQ game in a neutral country :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: weary1969 on June 17, 2008, 04:34:15 PM
We go co host d yute tournament with d US. U eh c is Austria and Switzerland. Sepp and dem need d madman vote so dey does let him do what he wants
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Deeks on June 17, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
This is some sick times, Guys.

 I will be in a tizik if these games are played the US(providing they beat bermuda). I would love to see a live WC game, but not for this reason. The stadiums are available for the WC games at home. There is no physical distruction to any of the facilities, so FIFA should reject that move(ha! ha! ha! ha! ).

To be honest, The TT team get good support against the US when the game is played on the east coast. The further inland the lesser the crowd. The US will not play TT in NY, Bal-DC-Rich. area. The fraid the rythm section.  I saw a game in Richmond about 10 yrs ago. The crowd was slightly in the US favor, but we had the rythm section. We were twice time noisier than them. We lost the game, but the rythm section went down the streets jamming.

The policeman say "So, you guys won the game?".

 We say "Nah, we get 2, but we ent diggin' nothin'"

The policeman say "What!!! you guys are crazy. You all should be riotin' "
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Jah Gol on June 17, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
we really jokey in truth yes.....yuh could imagine Jack really going to FIFA wid dis stupidness?!?!?
Sepp dem go be rolling on de floor wid laughter at Jack.
One amount ah stadium in de country, petitioning to hold dis tournament and dat tournament, and allyuh want to host WCQ game in a neutral country :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: palos on June 17, 2008, 05:07:38 PM
People carryin on like if T&T go have WCQ's after Sunday comin.... ::)

2014 WCQ's maybe.
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: weary1969 on June 17, 2008, 05:25:15 PM
It have nuff nostrodamous on dis site man know d score, who scorin etc.
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Bakes on June 17, 2008, 05:26:57 PM
This is some sick times, Guys.

 I will be in a tizik if these games are played the US(providing they beat bermuda). I would love to see a live WC game, but not for this reason. The stadiums are available for the WC games at home. There is no physical distruction to any of the facilities, so FIFA should reject that move(ha! ha! ha! ha! ).

To be honest, The TT team get good support against the US when the game is played on the east coast. The further inland the lesser the crowd. The US will not play TT in NY, Bal-DC-Rich. area. The fraid the rythm section.  I saw a game in Richmond about 10 yrs ago. The crowd was slightly in the US favor, but we had the rythm section. We were twice time noisier than them. We lost the game, but the rythm section went down the streets jamming.

The policeman say "So, you guys won the game?".

 We say "Nah, we get 2, but we ent diggin' nothin'"

The policeman say "What!!! you guys are crazy. You all should be riotin' "

I was at that game... chippin in de streets after we loss at de Univ. of Richmond in '97
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Sando prince on June 17, 2008, 06:20:38 PM
Dont matter how yuh look at it and dont matter how yuh try to analyse it...IT IS NOT RIGHT to be playing home games on foreign soil....
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: WestCoast on June 17, 2008, 07:14:59 PM
Dont matter how yuh look at it and dont matter how yuh try to analyse it...IT IS NOT RIGHT to be playing home games on foreign soil....
yes sah, that is it right there..........Jackula is Mad as Hell
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Storeboy on June 17, 2008, 08:44:29 PM
All this talk is a bunch a bull!  Until we escape on Sunday ah doh want to hear anything 'bout home games and away games.  As far as I am concerned, we have no more home games and one away game that we have to win by two clear goals.  Go Warriors!  Give us one more chance to straighten out this mess!
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: weary1969 on June 17, 2008, 10:40:32 PM
Yep 1 day at a time and dat day is sunday in Bermuda
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: Michael-j on June 18, 2008, 07:10:32 AM
Don't give up home games
Williams, Sancho urge T&TFF...

Kern De Freitas kdefreitas@trinidadexpress.com

Wednesday, June 18th 2008

   

"The whole interest of Trinidad football is in jeopardy. We're going nowhere with it. Every (World Cup qualifying) campaign we're starting over, and this decision is the worst."

The decision former national defender Brian Williams was referring to in an interview with the Express yesterday was the T&T Football Federation's announcement on Monday that the "Soca Warriors" will be playing subsequent 2010 World Cup matches at a neutral venue...if they get past Bermuda by at least two clear goals in Sunday's return leg of their opening qualifier.

That event is the latest development in the ongoing feud between the Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs and the Federation, epitomised by the war of words between Sports Minister Gary Hunt and T&TFF special adviser Jack Warner.

Williams is just the latest of many stakeholders expressing the view that this spat is badly hurting T&T football.

A very concerned Williams, who was clearly upset at the recent turn of events in the feud over national stadiums, related that he could not see the logic in that decision.

"Coming to a decision like that, it totally makes no sense to me," Williams said. "I still don't know the reason why, but whatever reason the authorities or the Federation chooses to do that...it is a decision that is trying to show power."

The feud between Warner and Hunt broke out after the Ministry issued a release to the media outlining terms and conditions for the use of the Hasely Crawford Stadium two weeks ahead of the June 1 friendly international between T&T and England.

Those terms included a $150,000 rental fee, plus a refundable deposit and other associated costs.

The T&TFF brought the matter to court, arguing that the Ministry had already made a binding verbal agreement to charge the usual fees. Since then the Ministry have outlined their three-grade system for allocating the stadium facilities for international events.

The T&TFF attempted to have last Sunday's home leg against Bermuda played at the Dwight Yorke Stadium in Tobago, coinciding with the Junior Track and Field Championships, but met the same cost requirements as in Trinidad.

The T&TFF then decided to play matches at the Marvin Lee Stadium, adjacent to the Centre of Excellence in Macoya. That venue is the home ground of Joe Public Football Club, of which Warner is chairman.

Williams also added that such decisions should not be made because of personal disputes.

"As mature men, sit and come to some kind of good decision," he advised. "...You can't just ups and say you not playing none of Trinidad home games at home. We hardly making decisions in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago football."

T&T central defender Brent Sancho, who represented T&T at their maiden World Cup tournament, Germany 2006, was disappointed at the decision as well.

"I think that is extremely disappointing if that is the case. That's something that needs to be sorted out sooner rather than later," he said yesterday. "It's embarrassing from an international perspective in this predicament...at the highest level, I think it's a massive embarrassment of the country to see this going on."

Sancho also felt that because of disputes involving national football, T&T had failed to get any momentum from their Germany 2006 World Cup experience.

"The dispute between the players and the Federation played a huge part in what has transpired today in terms of the football," he explained. "You can clearly see that the boys they have now are talented, but it will take a little time for them to mature on the international stage."

Sancho also preferred the natural grass of the Hasely Crawford Stadium to the artificial turf of the Marvin Lee Stadium, where T&T fell 2-1 to minnows Bermuda on Sunday.

"At the end of the day, it's not a surface suited for football really. If it was, I think you'd see more countries having that type of surface. Any footballer will tell you that they prefer to play on a natural grass pitch."
Title: Re: Jack really brilliant yes...How we go play Cuba in the US?
Post by: weary1969 on June 18, 2008, 07:41:10 AM
BW yuh along long time and u should know sense and d TTFF is like Castro and Bush cyah happen