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Sports => Football => Topic started by: TrinInfinite on June 22, 2008, 09:39:05 AM

Title: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 22, 2008, 09:39:05 AM
The recent debacle with the HC stadium leaves me thinking about what happened with Chelsea in 1997, where the fans had a non-profit organization formed and it bestowed ownership to the fans of chelsea. In otherwards, the fans owned the stadium and this avoided any property management company from purchasing the stadium and property, meaning that the fans had a vested interest in the team and stadium.

They are called the Chelsea Pitch Owners PLC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Pitch_Owners ; in theory we can apply this to the supporters of T&T.

I thought this was a very good idea on the part of Chelsea, I wonder if the same initiative can be applied with one of our national football stadiums. It will give the fans a vested interest in sport for one and also allow all home games to be played at a venue that is conducive to great support and also will keep home games at home. Its just an idea but the government and ttff would have to agree to this and whether they will is another question.

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: R45 on June 22, 2008, 11:30:53 AM
They don't own the stadium. They own the naming rights to the club and ground.
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 22, 2008, 11:54:54 AM
They don't own the stadium. They own the naming rights to the club and ground.

go re-read the article, because they own the freehold and naming rights.

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: Benjie on June 22, 2008, 02:57:42 PM
Nice idea but revenue on the use of stadia are far too low in Trinidad to make it viable. I think its a great idea however but financially its a money pit
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: Benjie on June 22, 2008, 02:59:19 PM
They don't own the stadium. They own the naming rights to the club and ground.

go re-read the article, because they own the freehold and naming rights.

God is de BOSS....

Oh and freehold refers to the land and the rights that an owner can have.
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: TrinInfinite on June 23, 2008, 12:34:25 PM
They don't own the stadium. They own the naming rights to the club and ground.

go re-read the article, because they own the freehold and naming rights.

God is de BOSS....

Oh and freehold refers to the land and the rights that an owner can have.

and your point is boss?

God is de BOSS....
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: Padams on June 23, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
Maybe when hell freezes over................ Not with the kinda jokey fans we have... Cyah even full a stadium but we expect our fans to buy one....
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 23, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
Maybe when hell freezes over................ Not with the kinda jokey fans we have... Cyah even full a stadium but we expect our fans to buy one....

correct

not to mention in a situation like that, they probably have an executive board that is voted in to make decisions.

with the kind ah bobol that does go on here with a simplest of matters who we going and vote in for a whole stadium

destined to fail

Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: #4 on June 23, 2008, 06:59:32 PM
a training pitch maybe...but not a stadium
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: Jumbie on June 23, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
Boi tnt fans eh even owning the friggin swipa to cut the grass.

BTW.. do clubs have any part ownership in the smaller stadiums we have?
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: superoli on June 24, 2008, 03:42:20 AM
they own the freehold not the stadium two very different things.

In england you have freehold and leasehold and most properties tend to be leasehold with the freehold owned by someone else. At the end of a leashold the building and land returns to the freeholder, but with most leasholds being 999 years its a long time away ! Also by law leaseholds can be renewed and have to be done at a fair market price so freeholders cannot price a renewal so high as to get the land/ building back.

So in short the stadium is not owned by the fans its owned by chelsea village PLC
Title: Re: Could T&T Fans Own a Football Stadium like Chelsea Fans do?
Post by: WestCoast on June 24, 2008, 04:21:59 AM
they own the freehold not the stadium two very different things.

In england you have freehold and leasehold and most properties tend to be leasehold with the freehold owned by someone else. At the end of a leashold the building and land returns to the freeholder, but with most leasholds being 999 years its a long time away ! Also by law leaseholds can be renewed and have to be done at a fair market price so freeholders cannot price a renewal so high as to get the land/ building back.

So in short the stadium is not owned by the fans its owned by chelsea village PLC
eh???
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