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Sports => Football => Topic started by: PATRIOT on June 22, 2008, 09:53:37 PM
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Patriot - Match Report.
Forumites, I got to the stadium a full hour before kick-off and the place was already 1/2 full. There was a mini-parade by some local Bermudians known as "Gumby" ceating quite a Carnival altmosphere...lines were around the stadium as hundreds were still outside waiting to get in. I must say that the Bermudians are great sports, and not at all intimidating...heck I even got a lift to the game from a Family heading up the hill. Having failed to get a ticket to the game, I was fortunate to get a Media Pass borrowed from the Local Tv station FRESHTV, the folks whom I was doing business with.
As I made my way to the Media booth, I bounced into Brent Sancho, Gally Cummings, Cyd Gray, Isa Mohammed, Ron LaForest and the Minister of Consumer Affairs, Peter Taylor who had all made the trip over..they were seated in the covered section, while I headed off to the Media booth, only to find it full - Alvin Corneal and Dave Lamy doing live commentary over the phone and about 6 other Bermudian tv and radio stations doing the same. I eventually chose to stand at the back along with a reporter from either the Express or the Guardian.
When the teams entered the field, the "Gumby Warriors' were greeted by loud screams, cheers, conch shell, noise-makers and horns while T&Twere treated to loud boos...onto the Anthems, I left the booth, sang our Anthem, greatful that the music that was missing at home last week had been found!
First half kicks off and I was loking excitedly to see how T&T would line up, something that is now becoming the norm, since you never know who Pancho is going to give the nod to. Well, lo and behold, there were FOUR changes to last week's starting line up - Jan Micheal Williams replaced Ince in Goal, Michael Edwards was making his debut at left-back, Stern and Scotland were relegated to the bench replaced by Darryl Roberts and Jerol Forbes, while Osei Telesford was dropped to right-back from his def-mid position the week before. So we again playing 3-5-2 with a different defensive combination and a debutant in the line-up...I feared the worst but hoped for the best! What worked in our favor, was that Bermuda never tested T&T for the entire first half, playing with ALL 11 players in THEIR 1/2 of the pitch for the vast majority of the first 45 mins. T&T launched raid after raid with the space allowed to them Carlos freed of defensive responsibilities was a constant threat on the right-wing and was twice sent through shooting wide once and over-pushing the next, as Whitley, Daniel and Hyland kept sending penetrative passes for the men forward. Roberts himself also was guilty of wasting some nice through balls, either losing his footing or allowing Bermudian defenders to get there ahead of him. He wold make amends though, after chesting down a ball in the area, and shooting one time, straight into the roof of he net 1-0 T&T...all the T&T men in the booth were jumping, except Alvin and Dave who kept on the commentary. The Bermudian crowd got silent, and the energy level of their team also dropped, as they started making unforced errors, but still we could not find a second goal, despite raid after raid and corner upon corner - Hislop headed well wide Forbes continuously lost the ball when played through and while occasionally making good link-ups with Roberts, he was just having a bad game, as his touch deserted him time and again. His substitution at the 1/2 was predictable. Enter T&T's leading goal-scorer Stern...but when the second half began, it was a different Bermuda, as they started attacking our flanks, with good effect, winning a corner and making life anxious for the T&T back-line, particularly Telesford and Michael Edwards, both of whom picked up injuries, with Edwards eventually being replaced by Kern Cupid (yep the same man who had a nightmare against England at his more natural RIGHT-back position), and I felt sorry for Michael Edwards, whom I felt played well, did the simple hings, and being a Big, tall man, won a lot of aerial battles as well. Telesford's injury was to his shoulder, sustained when a Bermudian attempting a scissors kick, only succeeded in nearly slicing Osei's arm off his body. It became apparent he was in some discomfort, as Carlos had to take ALL our remaning throw ins on the right-side. But he soldiered on! T&T's second goal came amid controversy much like Bermuda's last week.. talk about Deja Vu! The home team was trying to make a sub just as T&T won a free kick. While the player was enteing the field, the kick was taken and Stern rose above the defenders to head home 2-0 T&T !!! And I didn't even see it, as I was checking the number of the new player to see his name and as I looked up I heard Alvin souting "it's a goal for Trinidad and Tobago, from that man Stern John, on the bench in the first half, what a super-sub he's proven to be!" The Bermuda bench went crazy, with Coaches have to be warned/restrained by the 4th Official. The game resumes and is now T&T starts to run of steam - Roberts was clearly bun, Stern was complaining as usual that he wanted ball to foot and NOT ball to chase, Kern Cupid was racing upfield and not getting back quickly enough, Carlos started playing almost as an extra right-wing defender, Aurtis too was siting back and in one moment when tussling with a Bermudian player, some pushing and shoving from both parties resulted in a yellow card each. Hyland was also booked for deliberately tripping a Bermudian who was making a race towards T&T's goal All of a sudden the momentum had shifted. T&T's back was now to the wall, as Bermuda won free-kicks in very dangerous positions but simply could not make any of them count. On one of T&T's rare jaunts upfield, Carlos on a brakaway as felled and Aurtis took the resulting free-kick, about 18 yards out and stung the palms of the Bermudian keeper who push it away for a corner. Roberts was replaced by Stephan David with about 5 mins to go and despite some anxiuous moments T&T got the required 2-0 victory...but it was not a game for the faint of heart! WE HAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL WORK TO DO OVER THE NEXT 2 MONTHS!!!!
Player ratings:-
JM Williams - 6 Had little to do, seems competent at crosses, but very suspect at coming off his line, poor distribution & positioning, he WILL be exposed against better teams a la USA
Michael Edwards 8 Can't fault this guy, seemed composed, did kick some long-balls to clear, but to my mind did the simple things competently until injured off...makes me wonder why he's been excluded til now??? Should feel proud of his debut!
Makan Hislop 6 While not playing badly, he uses his height to great effect defensively, but I'm always worried when he has the ball at his feet! Also, one thing Marvin Andrews always contributed was offensively, via headers...Makan would do well to work on this!
Dennis Lawrence 9.5 Man of the match for me he was in defence clearing, next thing he heading on goal upfront, AND he supporting midfield play...the man was like an energizer battey bunny, EVERYwhere!!!
Telesford 8 Like the work-rate, also brings some speed to the defence, but still too wild, must say tho he went to ground much less in this game, strong, aggressive in the air, think he's found his best position
Hyland 6.5 Didn't seem to relish playing inside the middle, drifted in and out of the game for long periods
Autis/Otis 8.5 Worked hard, in both attack and defence constantly tried to set up others and generally gave a good performance, leading by example
Carlos 7 Seemed off his game but STILL showed his class, albeit in spurts, finishing was bad tonight but build-up play was good, although some crosses were not up to his usually high standard
Keon Daniel 7.5 Probably the best/hardest I've seen this guy play, ran hard, but like many others, appeared to run out of steam towards the end..still believe he would serve us best in the middle and Collin Samuel should be brought back to the left-wing tho. KD is too thin and nashy for the flanks.
Daryl Roberts 8 - ran into spaces, harrassed defenders, won a lot of air ball, played with back to goal and shot when it was on, good link play..needs to work on his shooting while under pressure and fitness level..GREAT goal!
Jerol Forbes 4 - Worst player in white tonight, was out hustled by Bermuians, lacked the agression needed for this game and shooting was wayward to be kind
Stern 7 Expected more from him, having come on as a sub - to me he worked harder last game! Besides his allimportant goal tonight, was guilty of "loafing", but as he always seems to do, scores when it really matters
Kern Cupid 6 Very useful player going forward, but his over-exuberance doing so can be costly, also needs to curb his tendency to over-dribble - dangerous tendency for any defender, has to work on his passing accuracy and choice of pass. Has potential, but needs to be reigned in.
Stephan David Can't rate him - he only spent 5 mins on field
So that's my 2 cents. For what it's worth, I see far too many deficiencies in this team, and if Manturana remains as Coach and continues to ignore Sancho, Birchall, Samuel, Noel, who would all bring some much needed EXPERIENCE, we will be in for some serious licks in the next round, where we will face more potent theats than the Gumby Warriors.
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Muchas gracias safe trip home d pt u made bout Hislop I made that and a man say dat I eh nutten bout football so I guess we in d same boat.
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Thanks Patriot. Good stuff.
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:beermug:
cheers Patriot
well done
great game Warriors
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one question breddah, that has still not been answered, how is the creativity in the mid in your opinion, we played bermuda, which doesnt compare to the US, mexico and costa rica, how well will our mids do against these opponents?
In my opinion whitley and hyland are both defensive mids but lack the creativity to penetrate teams like the big 3, other than getting back our backline, which players in your opinion can fill the midfield role?
and by the way, excellent report boss
God is de BOSS.....
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I'm amazed by Sancho. De man jess everywhere, snub or no snub.
And since Gally geh mention dey Patriot. What is he up to these days? Anybody.
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Excellent report Brian............ah love it!!
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one question breddah, that has still not been answered, how is the creativity in the mid in your opinion, we played bermuda, which doesnt compare to the US, mexico and costa rica, how well will our mids do against these opponents?
In my opinion whitley and hyland are both defensive mids but lack the creativity to penetrate teams like the big 3, other than getting back our backline, which players in your opinion can fill the midfield role?
and by the way, excellent report boss
God is de BOSS.....
Whitley CAN IMHO step up to be our creative force, BUT he has to be freed from SOME of the defensive responsibilities he's currenlt shackled to, and any midfielder coming into the team MUST bring some DEFENSIVE presence, and be FIT enough to give us a solid 90 mins...too many players running on "E" after 75 mins
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I'm amazed by Sancho. De man jess everywhere, snub or no snub.
And since Gally geh mention dey Patriot. What is he up to these days? Anybody.
Gally's working with the MIN OF SPORT in their Community Projects, has been for a few years now.
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Thanks Patriot...boss report! Safe return brethren.
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I tink he now at UTT sancho is areal trooper when I saw him after d 1st leg defeat d man look like he best friend died. Dat is when I felt it when I saw him despite all dat dey have been through dey still supportin all d way.
He is a man among some pickney
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Thanks!
Kingman
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Thanks for the report.
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Dennis Lawrence 9.5 Man of the match for me he was in defence clearing, next thing he heading on goal upfront, AND he supporting midfield play...the man was like an energizer battey bunny, EVERYwhere!!!
thank God he decided to unretire...
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Thanks for the report
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Gombey/Gombay...not Gumby
But why quibble... thanks for the thorough report :beermug:
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Good reprt Patriot. Have a safe trip back.
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one question breddah, that has still not been answered, how is the creativity in the mid in your opinion, we played bermuda, which doesnt compare to the US, mexico and costa rica, how well will our mids do against these opponents?
In my opinion whitley and hyland are both defensive mids but lack the creativity to penetrate teams like the big 3, other than getting back our backline, which players in your opinion can fill the midfield role?
and by the way, excellent report boss
God is de BOSS.....
oh gosh you....stupesssss we done know what yuh coming with already, guerra\hardest :-X
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I'm amazed by Sancho. De man jess everywhere, snub or no snub.
And since Gally geh mention dey Patriot. What is he up to these days? Anybody.
Gally's working with the MIN OF SPORT in their Community Projects, has been for a few years now.
Great to hear
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give thanks for de match report breds.
ah have ah question though (might be de wrong thread for it, but i won't be the first), men calling for Maturana head in other threads, but as ah man (or anybody for that that matter) who see de game, what do you think Maturana did to influence (apart from he 3-5-2 i.e) the team that anybody else couldn't do?
When ah say anybody else ah mean like, leh we say ah local coach, leh we use Brian Williams for e.g. Yuh think if Brian had de same team, he coulda get the same result (at a much lower salary i imagaine)????
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one question breddah, that has still not been answered, how is the creativity in the mid in your opinion, we played bermuda, which doesnt compare to the US, mexico and costa rica, how well will our mids do against these opponents?
In my opinion whitley and hyland are both defensive mids but lack the creativity to penetrate teams like the big 3, other than getting back our backline, which players in your opinion can fill the midfield role?
and by the way, excellent report boss
God is de BOSS.....
Whitley CAN IMHO step up to be our creative force, BUT he has to be freed from SOME of the defensive responsibilities he's currenlt shackled to, and any midfielder coming into the team MUST bring some DEFENSIVE presence, and be FIT enough to give us a solid 90 mins...too many players running on "E" after 75 mins
If they bring back Birchall to do the dirty work we could play Whitely or Daniel in the middle to create with Samuel or Glen on the left side and Carlos right. Sancho and Avery need to come back too immediately.
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Thanks Patriot
WHEW! we dodged a bullet there, eh? anyhoo I'm so relieved that we got the deed done. unfortunately now we have 3 more months before the next match- want to bet we go back to square ONE... ::)
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So if Bermuda was attacking more often, do you think we would have won. And that system 3-5-2 again, didn't it not work for us last game.
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good report. thanks
bring back birchall........................
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So, if it was 3-5-2, Dennis or Hislop was in midfield?
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one question breddah, that has still not been answered, how is the creativity in the mid in your opinion, we played bermuda, which doesnt compare to the US, mexico and costa rica, how well will our mids do against these opponents?
In my opinion whitley and hyland are both defensive mids but lack the creativity to penetrate teams like the big 3, other than getting back our backline, which players in your opinion can fill the midfield role?
and by the way, excellent report boss
God is de BOSS.....
Whitley CAN IMHO step up to be our creative force, BUT he has to be freed from SOME of the defensive responsibilities he's currenlt shackled to, and any midfielder coming into the team MUST bring some DEFENSIVE presence, and be FIT enough to give us a solid 90 mins...too many players running on "E" after 75 mins
If they bring back Birchall to do the dirty work we could play Whitely or Daniel in the middle to create with Samuel or Glen on the left side and Carlos right. Sancho and Avery need to come back too immediately.
that holding mid and creative mid problem needs to be fixed, we need someone solid in the holding mid bc our defense weak and the holding mid is a link to the mid in transitional terms, our transitional play is terrible right now, when we play the US and guat they will stifle our mid if the central mids are not creative enough, they will put pressure on our holding mid bc essentially playing the 3-5-2 means that the holding mid is the link, whitley plays this role well, bc i dont see yorke coming back, if he does, whitley could move to the attacking position and let yorke hold it down, colin samuel is a very good left winger but nigel daniel can play that position if he is not back as a left back
God is de BOSS...
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Nice Report Patriot...
1 question, how many cards did Whitely get?
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Nice Report Patriot...
1 question, how many cards did Whitely get?
I think Whitley and Hislop both got 1 each...
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Thanks Patriot,
I gathered as much from the Radio report.
As for Alvin and Dave's exuberance...if when we score vs Bahrain he could say with no emotion...and its a goal...TT has scored...goal by Dennis Lawrence...dry dry. Yuh ent gettin more from he vs Bermuda.
Travel safely.
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So, if it was 3-5-2, Dennis or Hislop was in midfield?
Actually the team LINED UP as a 4-4-2, but as I said in the Match report, Dennis was EVERYwhere and ESPECIALLY in the first half, when we were under virtually NO pressure from Bermuda, Tallest went forward at will, so effectively it was a 3-5-2. By the time we scored goal#2 it was more like 5-3-2 and in the last 5 mins 9-0-1 lol
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give thanks for de match report breds.
ah have ah question though (might be de wrong thread for it, but i won't be the first), men calling for Maturana head in other threads, but as ah man (or anybody for that that matter) who see de game, what do you think Maturana did to influence (apart from he 3-5-2 i.e) the team that anybody else couldn't do?
When ah say anybody else ah mean like, leh we say ah local coach, leh we use Brian Williams for e.g. Yuh think if Brian had de same team, he coulda get the same result (at a much lower salary i imagaine)????
Hmmn bout the only thing Icould say is his unwavering faith in YOUNG, gifted but very inexperienced players and his willingness to take RISKS in "throwing them in the deep end"... - Michael Edwards gets 1st cap in a do or die game, JM Williams after being 2nd string for the last few months is apparently the new first choice, Forbes starts in front of T&T's leading scorer, Kern Cupid starting against England and being asked to play in an unfamiliar left-back role. He's NO Beenie tho - I'm STILL not convinced ALL the players buy into his style/strategy, but in fairness to him, he has managed to "limp" us in the Group stage, and must know we have to step up BIG time between now an August 20th!!!
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give thanks for de match report breds.
ah have ah question though (might be de wrong thread for it, but i won't be the first), men calling for Maturana head in other threads, but as ah man (or anybody for that that matter) who see de game, what do you think Maturana did to influence (apart from he 3-5-2 i.e) the team that anybody else couldn't do?
When ah say anybody else ah mean like, leh we say ah local coach, leh we use Brian Williams for e.g. Yuh think if Brian had de same team, he coulda get the same result (at a much lower salary i imagaine)????
Hmmn bout the only thing Icould say is his unwavering faith in YOUNG, gifted but very inexperienced players and his willingness to take RISKS in "throwing them in the deep end"... - Michael Edwards gets 1st cap in a do or die game, JM Williams after being 2nd string for the last few months is apparently the new first choice, Forbes starts in front of T&T's leading scorer, Kern Cupid starting against England and being asked to play in an unfamiliar left-back role. He's NO Beenie tho - I'm STILL not convinced ALL the players buy into his style/strategy, but in fairness to him, he has managed to "limp" us in the Group stage, and must know we have to step up BIG time between now an August 20th!!!
Steupes. You STILL think Maturana SELECTIN far less coachin any Trini team? ::)
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Gally has been head football coach at The University of Trinidad and Tobago for over a year.
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Gombey/Gombay...not Gumby
But why quibble... thanks for the thorough report :beermug:
(http://www.appscout.com/gumby.bmp)
Yuh sure? Just imagine this green guy in a Bermudian warriors outfit.
Anyway good we squeaked through by de skin of we teet on this one, but less than 8 weeks is not a long time to prep for the next round from what I'm hearing.
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Nice Report Patriot...
1 question, how many cards did Whitely get?
I think Whitley and Hislop both got 1 each...
:)
Give thx Patriot.
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nice report Patriot...thxs man :beermug:
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from: samo on Today at 09:28:53 AM
Nice Report Patriot...
1 question, how many cards did Whitely get?
I think Whitley and Hislop both got 1 each...
Thanx Flex
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Couple things, thanks for pullin thru, what by 'any means necessary'....yuh doh make joke with yuh attendance record, ah feel yuh attend more game than any T&T coach, as non-ah-dem outlastin yuh.
1. Ah suspected yuh woulda pull dah stunt, cause daiz ah ole one, like you an me ;D
who is dese cricket commentators boy?
And you can here another commentator team in the background.
is that a TnT commentator?
as he get real excited when we scored
can we get that commentator??
the one in the background
yeah boi I tryin to hook he up...ah feel is Patriot storm with a mike in ah cardboard box, ah cyah fine him atall
2. Ah telling yuh SO since dah bar in Conn...now yuh have Alvin goat-mouthin de strategy.
"Stern 7 Expected more from him, having come on as a sub - to me he worked harder last game! Besides his allimportant goal tonight, was guilty of "loafing", but as he always seems to do, scores when it really matters" and "up I heard Alvin souting "it's a goal for Trinidad and Tobago, from that man Stern John, on the bench in the first half, what a super-sub he's proven to be!" "
3. Ah tellin yuh NO since Conn...for the total opposite reasons yuh saying for KD...big an bulky...buh is up to he to change dat, doh ah suspect dat ent happening soon.
"and Collin Samuel should be brought back to the left-wing tho. KD is too thin and nashy for the flanks."
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Thanks, Patriot, for a very nice and informitive report.
I have ONE issue with it, though: How DE HELL yuh go call my boy Lawrence ah oversexed, gay rabbit?!?! "....battey energizer bunny"?!
;D
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CLICK HERE (http://www.thewarriornation.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,40/?g2_itemId=6958) for some photos.
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Thanks for the report Patriot. Thanks for the pics, Tallman. That place some damn clean and orderly.
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Nice report :beermug: hard luck scotty i think you shoulda start instead of Forbes
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nice,, ah half decent amount reach in troot
(http://www.thewarriornation.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=6978&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=3ca1ec1605cf38d93ab27d11955a3340)
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U C Y JW want 2 carry d games overseas d crowd look real animated
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Couple things, thanks for pullin thru, what by 'any means necessary'....yuh doh make joke with yuh attendance record, ah feel yuh attend more game than any T&T coach, as non-ah-dem outlastin yuh.
1. Ah suspected yuh woulda pull dah stunt, cause daiz ah ole one, like you an me ;D
who is dese cricket commentators boy?
And you can here another commentator team in the background.
is that a TnT commentator?
as he get real excited when we scored
can we get that commentator??
the one in the background
yeah boi I tryin to hook he up...ah feel is Patriot storm with a mike in ah cardboard box, ah cyah fine him atall
2. Ah telling yuh SO since dah bar in Conn...now yuh have Alvin goat-mouthin de strategy.
"Stern 7 Expected more from him, having come on as a sub - to me he worked harder last game! Besides his allimportant goal tonight, was guilty of "loafing", but as he always seems to do, scores when it really matters" and "up I heard Alvin souting "it's a goal for Trinidad and Tobago, from that man Stern John, on the bench in the first half, what a super-sub he's proven to be!" "
3. Ah tellin yuh NO since Conn...for the total opposite reasons yuh saying for KD...big an bulky...buh is up to he to change dat, doh ah suspect dat ent happening soon.
"and Collin Samuel should be brought back to the left-wing tho. KD is too thin and nashy for the flanks."
Hear nuh, I nearly dead wid laff!!!! :devil: Why yuh mauvaislange so eh???
1. It was a Styrofoam box..NOT cardboard? Weh yuh feel is a vagrant??? ;D
2. Speaking of AC's comments I have a joke on him and the Stern John sub, buh ah go PM yuh THAT one (yuh know how dey quick to sue fuh libel) :devil:
3. Well we hadda agree to disagree on this one, because wid CS yuh never know which one will show up - "All speed an no brains" or an Icelandic performance..with KD he good fuh de dead ball situations but nothin defensively. So I'd START wid CS and KD as a 2nd 1/2 half sub.
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Thanks, Patriot, for a very nice and informitive report.
I have ONE issue with it, though: How DE HELL yuh go call my boy Lawrence ah oversexed, gay rabbit?!?! "....battey energizer bunny"?!
;D
Oops ah plead ah "Pink Panther" - de Calypsonian "Dey MISPRINT meh" - typo caused by 2 hours of stress and little ress :-[