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Title: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on June 26, 2008, 08:12:34 PM
Does Dennis Lawrence qualify?
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: assrancid on June 26, 2008, 08:29:54 PM
Stern John and Dwight Yorke.  Marvin Andrews is a monster header too, but as a defender he scored less than Stern and Yorke.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: takenoprisoners on June 26, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
Jeff Gellineau! Deadly on corners, Vivian Manswell cross to Jeff Gellineau, undefendable.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 26, 2008, 08:36:29 PM
Honorable mention, Cornell Glenn's header vs Panama 2 GCs ago...he leapt so high in the air seemed unbelievable
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: weary1969 on June 26, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
Andrews is a legend in Scotland with his headers it is blieved dat he headed b4 he kicked d ball 4 Raith. There was a discussion sometime back as 2 y he doh score more goals 4 we
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on June 27, 2008, 07:25:09 AM
Jeff Gellineau! Deadly on corners, Vivian Manswell to Jeff Gellineau, undefendable.

You could not have said it better!!! Gellineau was indeed a top of de line header of the ball. Interesting dat you shud mention the name Manswell. Talented player.

I also rank Ronnie Grey as another great header in local football. Ian DeBruin of Lantern Giants , SFA & South was also pretty good!
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: palos on June 27, 2008, 07:29:21 AM
Libert Duncan.

Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: WestCoast on June 27, 2008, 07:46:23 AM
Need I say anything else (http://www.ecaribbeansports.com/Videos/Lawrence49mingoalV2.mpg)
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: jai john on June 27, 2008, 07:50:02 AM
Ron La forest !
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on June 27, 2008, 08:03:03 AM
Libert Duncan.



No Palos! Sorry, but no way is 'Black boy' a ranker!
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Coop's on June 27, 2008, 08:22:17 AM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: jai john on June 27, 2008, 08:26:34 AM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   
Coops yuh memory fading boy ! Yuh know if Ron hear yuh he go produce all dem headed goals he scored for de defence force , ASL and T&T !
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: takenoprisoners on June 27, 2008, 08:29:41 AM
Jeff Gellineau! Deadly on corners, Vivian Manswell to Jeff Gellineau, undefendable.

You could not have said it better!!! Gellineau was indeed a top of de line header of the ball. Interesting dat you shud mention the name Manswell. Talented player.

I also rank Ronnie Grey as another great header in local football. Ian DeBruin of Lantern Giants , SFA & South was also pretty good!

 Good call!  :beermug: Ronnie Grey in the box used to put his head anywhere, on man foot, inches off the ground, ah can't remember if he ever sustained serious injury.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: kiffysmooth on June 27, 2008, 09:29:33 AM
McDigan.......ah tink he gone mad now....but years ago he was real bad scoring header
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Coop's on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 AM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   
Coops yuh memory fading boy ! Yuh know if Ron hear yuh he go produce all dem headed goals he scored for de defence force , ASL and T&T !
         It's possible my memory could be failing but i'm not going by what i hear,i played with Ron all through his career with DF and together the same time with the national team,the Ron i know never liked heading balls,don't put it in the air for him,his strength was with the ball at his feet,he didn't even like running very much because he had a bunch of good midfield players who could deliver the ball for him,all he had to do was finish,must say a very good finisher.Could you tell me how many goals Ron has playing for T&T?   
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: palos on June 27, 2008, 10:38:53 AM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   
Coops yuh memory fading boy ! Yuh know if Ron hear yuh he go produce all dem headed goals he scored for de defence force , ASL and T&T !
         It's possible my memory could be failing but i'm not going by what i hear,i played with Ron all through his career with DF and together the same time with the national team,the Ron i know never liked heading balls,don't put it in the air for him,his strength was with the ball at his feet,he didn't even like running very much because he had a bunch of good midfield players who could deliver the ball for him,all he had to do was finish,must say a very good finisher.Could you tell me how many goals Ron has playing for T&T?   

Daz exactly how I remember Ron La too.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Observer on June 27, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   

Coops what about Wilfred Cave  ;D
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: palos on June 27, 2008, 11:42:50 AM
The best header of the ball I ever see from T&T is Dwight Yorke hands down.

A real testament to de FACT dat yuh could LEARN to be a good header of de ball if yuh put yuh mind to it.

Before goin England, Dwight was jes as mediocre as de ress.

Marvin Andrews is a fearless header of de ball.  Dennis Lawrence for all his height and historic goal against Bahrain is actually a relatively poor header of the ball although he has gotten a lot better.  Another tall one who wasn't that great in de air was Garnet Craig.

Kenwyne Jones might jes be right up dey wit de best we ever had.

Ah hear dis Thor fella back in de 20's was pretty good too.  Coops...u play wit he...is true he was a good header?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Coop's on June 27, 2008, 12:08:43 PM
Ron La forest !
       No sarie,not Ron La,i've played with this guy for a number of years and can't remember him scoring a header,i would like to add Sharkey Henry and Kelvin Berassa to that list.   

Coops what about Wilfred Cave  ;D
         It really take a South man to latch on to Mr bound to score,thanks for reminding me ,i would rate him in that category too because it did not have a part of his body he didn't used to score with,Willo was a boss.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Observer on June 27, 2008, 12:32:58 PM
The best header of the ball I ever see from T&T is Dwight Yorke hands down.

A real testament to de FACT dat yuh could LEARN to be a good header of de ball if yuh put yuh mind to it.

Before goin England, Dwight was jes as mediocre as de ress.

Marvin Andrews is a fearless header of de ball.  Dennis Lawrence for all his height and historic goal against Bahrain is actually a relatively poor header of the ball although he has gotten a lot better.  Another tall one who wasn't that great in de air was Garnet Craig.

Kenwyne Jones might jes be right up dey wit de best we ever had.

Ah hear dis Thor fella back in de 20's was pretty good too.  Coops...u play wit he...is true he was a good header?  ;D ;D ;D

Much Truth to what you say and I would not argue with that assessment. Dwight really worked at not only his ability to technically head a ball properly, but on his timing of runs into the penalty area. Obviously, with Beckham providing the service it was a deadly combination
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: dinho on June 27, 2008, 12:39:16 PM
i could only speak on what i've seen since i first started watching trini football which is somewhere in the 1989 campaign..

I would have to say Dwight Yorke based on what he used to do at club level, and then Stern John for what he did for club and country.

Sorry that I will never be able to see any footage of all these legends you guys talk about.

Thats the good thing about technology.

Our children and children's children will be able to reference players from the past simply by searching them up on youtube or something similar (something better go be around by dat time).

I cyah even see a good Latapy compilation as it stands.  :-\
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Observer on June 27, 2008, 12:52:02 PM
i could only speak on what i've seen since i first started watching trini football which is somewhere in the 1989 campaign..

I would have to say Dwight Yorke based on what he used to do at club level, and then Stern John for what he did for club and country.

Sorry that I will never be able to see any footage of all these legends you guys talk about.

Thats the good thing about technology.

Our children and children's children will be able to reference players from the past simply by searching them up on youtube or something similar (something better go be around by dat time).

I cyah even see a good Latapy compilation as it stands.  :-\

Papa dat is the beauty about memory long before youtube. Then again it reminds us we getting old  :)
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: scooby on June 27, 2008, 06:59:04 PM
coops I would say you are right ron la never like heading the ball he always wanted everything to foot, now roderick rambo gibbs was a very good header of the ball not sure how many goals he scored but he had quite a few defence force
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: dtool on June 27, 2008, 10:32:12 PM

I will have to go with Jeff Gellineau and Ronnie Gray..............
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: injunchile on June 28, 2008, 09:20:23 AM
Ronnie Gray scored with headers inches off the ground, Once he even hit his head against the wooden Goal post in front of the grand stand. Got his head bandaged and came back and scored with a header. He scored more goals with his head than his feet. Second was Jeff Gellinuea ask any QRC boy how many times his header broke their hearts when he played for CIC.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on June 28, 2008, 08:44:47 PM
Ronnie Gray scored with headers inches off the ground, Once he even hit his head against the wooden Goal post in front of the grand stand. Got his head bandaged and came back and scored with a header. He scored more goals with his head than his feet. Second was Jeff Gellinuea ask any QRC boy how many times his header broke their hearts when he played for CIC.

Was dat a North vs South game in front de grand stand?
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2008, 06:56:37 PM
Ah man tell meh dat back in de day Keith Douglas was deadly wit he head. What is de verdict on dat one?
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: morvant on August 22, 2008, 07:16:14 PM
yorke;s best header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMkHWMiWxk4
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on August 23, 2008, 06:27:52 AM
yorke;s best header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMkHWMiWxk4

Yorke????
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: morvant on August 23, 2008, 06:35:19 AM
yorke;s best header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMkHWMiWxk4

Yorke????

is a joke. others would understand
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: ChipChipSilver on August 23, 2008, 10:20:09 AM
Alyuh forgetting Godfrey Harris or wha.   ???
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Jefferz on August 23, 2008, 05:51:14 PM
yorke;s best header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMkHWMiWxk4


 :rotfl:

morvant, yuh not easy boy.

and either way.. thats one sweet header by julius.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Trevor on August 23, 2008, 06:53:34 PM
Jeff Gillineau was the best header I saw – no one was close to him.  I have to agree with Coop’s regarding Ron LaForest.  I played against and with him on numerous occasions, and I cannot recall him being noted as a dangerous header.  Alvin Henderson and Luciano Woodley were also good in the air.

Trevor
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Toussaint on August 23, 2008, 08:16:04 PM
I would pick Warren A. When I think of concacaf headers, his name often comes to my mind alongside other players like Hugo Sanchez and Jared Borgetti. Ironically, neither one of those guys is particularly tall.
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Post by: fatimarima on August 23, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
Stern John and Dwight Yorke.  Marvin Andrews is a monster header too, but as a defender he scored less than Stern and Yorke.
Totally agree, but I would add cornel glen and kenwyne Jones to that list.
Dwight Yorke
Stern John
Marvin Andrews
Cornel Glen
Kenwyne Jones
 

Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: fatimarima on August 23, 2008, 09:28:49 PM
Need I say anything else (http://www.ecaribbeansports.com/Videos/Lawrence49mingoalV2.mpg)

Yeah WestCoast, Dennis Lawrece header is the most important goal in the history of Trinidad and Tobago football. 
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Flex on August 25, 2008, 06:36:09 AM
From Lincoln Phillips

I would like to cast my vote for Jeff Gellineau and Ronnie Gray as the two best headers of the ball in T&T football. I played with Jeff on the national teams and was privileged to have seen Ronnie Gray in his prime playing with South Football Association and T&T national team. I chose these two players because they scored most of their goals with their heads while the other players, mentioned on the site, score several goals with their feet as well as with their heads.
 
Jeff Gellineau (Height and Power Header)
 
Jeff was a climber and power header. He possessed tremendous leaping power, out-jumping many of our best defenders....as a youth playing for St. Mary's College. In addition to his superior leaping ability, his head shots on goal were like rockets coming off the foot of an attacker.
 
Ronnie Gray (Most Spectacular Header)
 
Ronnie's header goals were the most spectacular feats I have ever seen in my career as a player and coach. On crossballs, he would arrive from nowhere, diving full length, sometimes taking the ball literally off the feet of defenders to score. His header goals have never been duplicated in T&T football. The closest to Ronnie was Shay Seymour from Colts Football club.

LP.
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Weh-it-is on August 25, 2008, 06:44:10 AM
Yuh done know...YORKE #19.  ;) Bye Bye!
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: najee on August 25, 2008, 12:13:30 PM
Marvin Andrew....i could be wrong
Title: Re: Who are the all time best goal scoring headers of the ball in TT football?
Post by: Anbrat on August 25, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
From Lincoln Phillips

I would like to cast my vote for Jeff Gellineau and Ronnie Gray as the two best headers of the ball in T&T football. I played with Jeff on the national teams and was privileged to have seen Ronnie Gray in his prime playing with South Football Association and T&T national team. I chose these two players because they scored most of their goals with their heads while the other players, mentioned on the site, score several goals with their feet as well as with their heads.
 
Jeff Gellineau (Height and Power Header)
 
Jeff was a climber and power header. He possessed tremendous leaping power, out-jumping many of our best defenders....as a youth playing for St. Mary's College. In addition to his superior leaping ability, his head shots on goal were like rockets coming off the foot of an attacker.
 
Ronnie Gray (Most Spectacular Header)
 
Ronnie's header goals were the most spectacular feats I have ever seen in my career as a player and coach. On crossballs, he would arrive from nowhere, diving full length, sometimes taking the ball literally off the feet of defenders to score. His header goals have never been duplicated in T&T football. The closest to Ronnie was Shay Seymour from Colts Football club.

LP.


These 2 players were amazing headers of the ball!! I consider myself fortunate to have seen them both in action. LP's discourse describes them most accurately.
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