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Title: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 03:33:57 PM
Please list them here. 

THE GOOD THINGS ONLY....PLEASE PEOPLE!  Doh trip ova allyuhself rushin to post!

No setta explanation and explashiatin necessary.  Jes to de point.

Thanks.  Ah go start it off.

1 -
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: freakazoid on July 28, 2008, 03:36:23 PM
the cfu u15....  i mentioned that during the 1st tournament

concacf 3 1/2 spots
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Dutty on July 28, 2008, 03:37:25 PM
2. He has opened my eyes to the fact that money suckin vampires are people too

3. He does pay SLIM mortgage on time every month

4. He has um...uh,,well he um..........
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: FF on July 28, 2008, 03:41:32 PM
the cfu u15....  i mentioned that during the 1st tournament

concacf 3 1/2 spots

This is good for the region.. not really TNT specific... same with the CFU

but we'll allow it.. job well done here.

Also weren't there youth tornaments years before? what happened in between? Just playing devil's advocate.. I see plenty of dem around these days...

Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: DeSoWa on July 28, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
 He keeps this site lively on a very SLOW day  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: freakazoid on July 28, 2008, 03:45:58 PM
dutty say d man open he eyes.........   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on July 28, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
5. Tief plenty FIFA money for CONCACAF initiatives and re-route it to himself then to Trinidad & Tobago football initiatives

6. Flex he muscles and get the rhythm section in the stadium in Bahrain.

7. Marvin Lee

8. U-17 World Cup

9. Bring England and Becks here (especially incl. the sessions for the youths)

10. Convince Latas and Yorke to come out of retirement and take us to a World Cup.

11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

12. Highest ranking official ever in FIFA that this country has produced.

13. Brought us recognition on the global football stage.

14. Lobbied for extra places for CONCACAF and gave us a shot to squeeze in Germany. Doh feel them extra spots was an automatic guarantee for us when the World Cup team pool increased if we didn't have a powerhouse on board. Africa, Europe, South America and Oceania all have arguable more legitimate claims to a spot than CONCACAF does.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: freakazoid on July 28, 2008, 03:53:48 PM
ah disagree with yuh # 10 omar.

st clair get yorke back then yorke get latas to come bac
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: STEUPS!! on July 28, 2008, 03:55:54 PM
i'm amazed SLIM wasn't d first to respond to dis post.  ::)


bless!!
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Dutty on July 28, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
18. Drives the most beautiful Porsche 911 Turbo past schoolboys on a daily basis, so that they, will one day have powerful incentive to aspire to unethical business dealings
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on July 28, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
Please list them here. 

THE GOOD THINGS ONLY....PLEASE PEOPLE!  Doh trip ova allyuhself rushin to post!

No setta explanation and explashiatin necessary.  Jes to de point.

Thanks.  Ah go start it off.

1 -
wha happen Palos?
ya lorse current as you type the "1 -" or wha? ;D

he has made all kinds of money off "TnT" Football
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 04:07:36 PM
11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

Dat wasn't Jack altho he did go along with the final recommendation.

Jack was poised to bring een Ron Atkinson until he was strongly overruled by Yorke & Shaka especially.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 04:09:12 PM
wha happen Palos?
ya lorse current as you type the "1 -" or wha? ;D

Ah still colleckin meh torts... :angel:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on July 28, 2008, 04:09:54 PM
11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

Dat wasn't Jack altho he did go along with the final recommendation.

Jack was poised to bring een Ron Atkinson until he was strongly overruled by Yorke & Shaka especially.


11. Listen to the advice of Yorke and Shaka and bring down Beenhakker instead of Atkinson.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Dutty on July 28, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

Dat wasn't Jack altho he did go along with the final recommendation.

Jack was poised to bring een Ron Atkinson until he was strongly overruled by Yorke & Shaka especially.


11. Listen to the advice of Yorke and Shaka and bring down Beenhakker instead of Atkinson.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Blue on July 28, 2008, 04:13:19 PM
15. Brought sexy back

(http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-02-23/jack-warner.jpg)
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: STEUPS!! on July 28, 2008, 04:19:40 PM
15. Brought sexy back

(http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2005-02-23/jack-warner.jpg)

ooooh yeaaaa! :-*
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: FF on July 28, 2008, 04:25:15 PM
5. Tief plenty FIFA money for CONCACAF initiatives and re-route it to himself then to Trinidad & Tobago football initiatives

You consider this good? which football initiatives? who benefited most?

6. Flex he muscles and get the rhythm section in the stadium in Bahrain.

I don't think this deserve to be here... instead you should have pointed out that he organize Woodbrook Playboys to travel all over with the team

7. Marvin Lee

This was quite gracious of him. kudos

8. U-17 World Cup

Great.. but then who really benefited most. Plagued by mismanagement and corruption... was this really a success? what happen with our team preparation? why did simoes have to come in at de last minute?

9. Bring England and Becks here (especially incl. the sessions for the youths)

Great.. but are you happy in the manner in which they came? what about running a federation that easily attracts a high level of opposition on a regular basis? what about planning friendlies in a professional way so we not playing Guyana and WASA at de last minute? What about all de mother of friendlies we was supposed to get? Why should de England game be a once in a lifetime? Poor Touches and dem suffering and hurting dey eyes right through...

10. Convince Latas and Yorke to come out of retirement and take us to a World Cup.

Ah go address this later

11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

What about all de coaches before? all those who get hired and fired? who wasn't paid. Not to mention Beenhakker was recommended by Nakhid and Lincoln. (you forget Jack get Nakhid outta Jail). But this point is all about WE GET TO A WORLD CUP.. will be addressed later.

12. Highest ranking official ever in FIFA that this country has produced.

Jack in charge since before the rankings... so of course we would have the highest ranking under his watch... he has also presided over our lowest rankings... ironically just two years after our supposed crowning glory.

13. Brought us recognition on the global football stage.
WE REACH A WORLD CUP HOORAY...

plain and simple we was lucky. before beenie come and for a good while after everybody was looking forward to 2010... we have not improved from 4 years ago and we had not improved from four years before that and so on... we have been plagued by mismanagement.. corruption... nepotism and short-sightedness.. Are we glad to have made a World Cup once... or do we plan to be world beaters and regional powerhouses? The sad thing is CONCACAF is not a very strong region after US/MEX.. just take a look at Jamaica's rise and fall... Panama as well... it doesn't take much to get to the top... and even less to fall behind... thats why we must be world class in our approach, preparation and administration.. so we can be world class on de field... that way WC qualification will not be a flash in de pan... but something we can enjoy regularly.


14. Lobbied for extra places for CONCACAF and gave us a shot to squeeze in Germany. Doh feel them extra spots was an automatic guarantee for us when the World Cup team pool increased if we didn't have a powerhouse on board. Africa, Europe, South America and Oceania all have arguable more legitimate claims to a spot than CONCACAF does.

Again this is good for the region.. not really TNT specific... but job well done here... but who is to say another president would not have won those spots? Isn't the president's job to act in the best interests of the region. We will never know.. so Jack well done. We have benefited... Jamaica has benefited so too has Costa Rica and maybe Haiti and others in de future.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: FF on July 28, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
No. 15 is de best  :rotfl:

Jack for Life boy!!!  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on July 28, 2008, 04:38:35 PM
5. Tief plenty FIFA money for CONCACAF initiatives and re-route it to himself then to Trinidad & Tobago football initiatives

You consider this good? which football initiatives? who benefited most?

6. Flex he muscles and get the rhythm section in the stadium in Bahrain.

I don't think this deserve to be here... instead you should have pointed out that he organize Woodbrook Playboys to travel all over with the team

7. Marvin Lee

This was quite gracious of him. kudos

8. U-17 World Cup

Great.. but then who really benefited most. Plagued by mismanagement and corruption... was this really a success? what happen with our team preparation? why did simoes have to come in at de last minute?

9. Bring England and Becks here (especially incl. the sessions for the youths)

Great.. but are you happy in the manner in which they came? what about running a federation that easily attracts a high level of opposition on a regular basis? what about planning friendlies in a professional way so we not playing Guyana and WASA at de last minute? What about all de mother of friendlies we was supposed to get? Why should de England game be a once in a lifetime? Poor Touches and dem suffering and hurting dey eyes right through...

10. Convince Latas and Yorke to come out of retirement and take us to a World Cup.

Ah go address this later

11. Bring down some best coach like Beenhakker.

What about all de coaches before? all those who get hired and fired? who wasn't paid. Not to mention Beenhakker was recommended by Nakhid and Lincoln. (you forget Jack get Nakhid outta Jail). But this point is all about WE GET TO A WORLD CUP.. will be addressed later.

12. Highest ranking official ever in FIFA that this country has produced.

Jack in charge since before the rankings... so of course we would have the highest ranking under his watch... he has also presided over our lowest rankings... ironically just two years after our supposed crowning glory.

13. Brought us recognition on the global football stage.
WE REACH A WORLD CUP HOORAY...

plain and simple we was lucky. before beenie come and for a good while after everybody was looking forward to 2010... we have not improved from 4 years ago and we had not improved from four years before that and so on... we have been plagued by mismanagement.. corruption... nepotism and short-sightedness.. Are we glad to have made a World Cup once... or do we plan to be world beaters and regional powerhouses? The sad thing is CONCACAF is not a very strong region after US/MEX.. just take a look at Jamaica's rise and fall... Panama as well... it doesn't take much to get to the top... and even less to fall behind... thats why we must be world class in our approach, preparation and administration.. so we can be world class on de field... that way WC qualification will not be a flash in de pan... but something we can enjoy regularly.


14. Lobbied for extra places for CONCACAF and gave us a shot to squeeze in Germany. Doh feel them extra spots was an automatic guarantee for us when the World Cup team pool increased if we didn't have a powerhouse on board. Africa, Europe, South America and Oceania all have arguable more legitimate claims to a spot than CONCACAF does.

Again this is good for the region.. not really TNT specific... but job well done here... but who is to say another president would not have won those spots? Isn't the president's job to act in the best interests of the region. We will never know.. so Jack well done. We have benefited... Jamaica has benefited so too has Costa Rica and maybe Haiti and others in de future.

FF, instead of replying to each of your responses, I will simply say this..

The thread asked about what good has Jack done for football and I listed some things. Nothing more, nothing less.

But its all a matter of perspective. You choose to look meticulously at every achievement and take the shine off of it by going into who benefit more from what (eg. FIFA money/U17 World Cup), which achievements you chalk down to luck (World Cup   ???) , the political motivation behind some of the achievements (England game) etc etc, then power to you.

Another person could look at the same list and say that he put the measures in place to make things happen here that would never have been possible if it wasn't for him, or that he played the corrupt political game to our benefit etc and laud him for that... then power to them.

all a matter of perspective my brother.

PS: my highest ranking point #12 was not T&T's ranking, it was Jack being the highest ranking official at FIFA.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: FF on July 28, 2008, 04:44:54 PM


FF, instead of replying to each of your responses, I will simply say this..

The thread asked about what good has Jack done for football and I listed some things. Nothing more, nothing less.

But its all a matter of perspective. You choose to look meticulously at every achievement and take the shine off of it by going into who benefit more from what (eg. FIFA money/U17 World Cup), which achievements you chalk down to luck (World Cup   ???) , the political motivation behind some of the achievements (England game) etc etc, then power to you.

Another person could look at the same list and say that he put the measures in place to make things happen here that would never have been possible if it wasn't for him, or that he played the corrupt political game to our benefit etc and laud him for that... then power to them.

all a matter of perspective my brother.

PS: my highest ranking point #12 was not T&T's ranking, it was Jack being the highest ranking official at FIFA.


Well ah thought we was discussing.. plenty man spinning all kinda ting Jack do... so I thought I would join de fun...

My bad on de ranking piece... kudos to him for having de drive to reach so far... plenty men ent have dat kinda belly...

I just give my opinion on some of dem points... I also add some for you on de positive side (trying not to drink de kool-aid and be objective nah) ...

but my opinion is just like my asshole... is mine and everybody have one..
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on July 28, 2008, 05:00:47 PM


FF, instead of replying to each of your responses, I will simply say this..

The thread asked about what good has Jack done for football and I listed some things. Nothing more, nothing less.

But its all a matter of perspective. You choose to look meticulously at every achievement and take the shine off of it by going into who benefit more from what (eg. FIFA money/U17 World Cup), which achievements you chalk down to luck (World Cup   ???) , the political motivation behind some of the achievements (England game) etc etc, then power to you.

Another person could look at the same list and say that he put the measures in place to make things happen here that would never have been possible if it wasn't for him, or that he played the corrupt political game to our benefit etc and laud him for that... then power to them.

all a matter of perspective my brother.

PS: my highest ranking point #12 was not T&T's ranking, it was Jack being the highest ranking official at FIFA.


Well ah thought we was discussing.. plenty man spinning all kinda ting Jack do... so I thought I would join de fun...

My bad on de ranking piece... kudos to him for having de drive to reach so far... plenty men ent have dat kinda belly...

I just give my opinion on some of dem points... I also add some for you on de positive side (trying not to drink de kool-aid and be objective nah) ...

but my opinion is just like my asshole... is mine and everybody have one..



you say plenty man spinning all kinda ting Jack do to turn it into a positive..

But when Jack offer to finance the Haitian football program, and then man come and spin it immediately by saying he for sure he hadda be doing it for corrupt purposes or it must have some nefarious motives behind it all, no one does question that here or call that spinning ting Jack do. No one go even bat ah eyelid.

I eh blinding myself or falling into ah brainwash.

I could write ah 100 point list of de SHIT dat jack do and discuss solutions and alternatives to the wreckage that our football has become.. but that dont mean I eh seeing de 20 point list of the good things.

People seem to forget that FIFA AND BY EXTENSION FOOTBALL IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION. Jack is a part of that and he is playing the FIFA political game and playing it well. We are supporters of an innately corrupt sport!

allyuh stay dey and feel any moral and ethical figurehead would be able to wield de same kinda clout and attain the same kinda achievements that he did for us without falling into that political arena and all that comes with it.

Question: Where de honest men like Michael Zen Ruffinen now?

Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 05:14:22 PM
Ah feel if somebody say 1 + 1 = 2, Omar go argue and say "NAH...is 11"...and tell we why too!  ;D
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on July 28, 2008, 05:17:27 PM
I could write ah 100 point list of de SHIT dat jack do and discuss solutions and alternatives to the wreckage that our football has become.. but that dont mean I eh seeing de 20 point list of the good things.

People seem to forget that FIFA AND BY EXTENSION FOOTBALL IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION. Jack is a part of that and he is playing the FIFA political game and playing it well. We are supporters of an innately corrupt sport!

allyuh stay dey and feel any moral and ethical figurehead would be able to wield de same kinda clout and attain the same kinda achievements that he did for us without falling into that political arena and all that comes with it.

Question: Where de honest men like Michael Zen Ruffinen now?
very good points

and to add
FIFA, and for us Jack, is not about national football. it is a business and is operated accordingly.

If FIFA was to say that Governments were to operate their football programs, then THAT would be something. Until then it is a franchise operated by Jack.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: FF on July 28, 2008, 05:23:28 PM


FF, instead of replying to each of your responses, I will simply say this..

The thread asked about what good has Jack done for football and I listed some things. Nothing more, nothing less.

But its all a matter of perspective. You choose to look meticulously at every achievement and take the shine off of it by going into who benefit more from what (eg. FIFA money/U17 World Cup), which achievements you chalk down to luck (World Cup   ???) , the political motivation behind some of the achievements (England game) etc etc, then power to you.

Another person could look at the same list and say that he put the measures in place to make things happen here that would never have been possible if it wasn't for him, or that he played the corrupt political game to our benefit etc and laud him for that... then power to them.

all a matter of perspective my brother.

PS: my highest ranking point #12 was not T&T's ranking, it was Jack being the highest ranking official at FIFA.


Well ah thought we was discussing.. plenty man spinning all kinda ting Jack do... so I thought I would join de fun...

My bad on de ranking piece... kudos to him for having de drive to reach so far... plenty men ent have dat kinda belly...

I just give my opinion on some of dem points... I also add some for you on de positive side (trying not to drink de kool-aid and be objective nah) ...

but my opinion is just like my asshole... is mine and everybody have one..



you say plenty man spinning all kinda ting Jack do to turn it into a positive..

But when Jack offer to finance the Haitian football program, and then man come and spin it immediately by saying he for sure he hadda be doing it for corrupt purposes or it must have some nefarious motives behind it all, no one does question that here or call that spinning ting Jack do. No one go even bat ah eyelid.

I eh blinding myself or falling into ah brainwash.

I could write ah 100 point list of de SHIT dat jack do and discuss solutions and alternatives to the wreckage that our football has become.. but that dont mean I eh seeing de 20 point list of the good things.

People seem to forget that FIFA AND BY EXTENSION FOOTBALL IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION. Jack is a part of that and he is playing the FIFA political game and playing it well. We are supporters of an innately corrupt sport!

allyuh stay dey and feel any moral and ethical figurehead would be able to wield de same kinda clout and attain the same kinda achievements that he did for us without falling into that political arena and all that comes with it.

Question: Where de honest men like Michael Zen Ruffinen now?




Do we really need a big strong champion battling it out in de arena of corruption and bobol in our name to be a success on de football field?

I say no. Not necessary at all... maybe I just holier than thou... but I expect more, integrity is part of success too.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: SLIM on July 28, 2008, 05:31:38 PM
2. He has opened my eyes to the fact that money suckin vampires are people too

3. He does pay SLIM mortgage on time every month

4. He has um...uh,,well he um..........

Dirty ah like your number2 pardner.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: SLIM on July 28, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
2. He has opened my eyes to the fact that money suckin vampires are people too

3. He does pay SLIM mortgage on time every month

4. He has um...uh,,well he um..........

Jack Austin Warner receives 2006 Republic Day Award

Jack Austin Warner, President of CONCACAF and Vice President of football’s world governing body FIFA was presented with the prestigious 2006 Republic Day Award from His Excellency Professor George Maxwell Richards at President House on Republic Day,September 24.
Warner , dubbed “Mr. Football” in Trinidad and Tobago, was named as the recipient of the award for long, outstanding and meritorious contribution to national development in the area of football.

Brazil, one of the world’s top football nations recognised the FIFA Vice President in 2005 while the Commonwealth Sports Foundation presented him with a lifetime award in 2001.Jack Warner also received Peru’s highest award in 2005 while Jamaica made him an honorary citizen in 1998 – the same year that the Reggae Boys made it to the World Cup Finals.

Warner, who is well known as a shrewd and tough administrator, was selected for the Republic Day Award not by just five or six people sitting on a committee but by a wide cross section of citizens.. Over 1000 people were asked to name a person they felt contributed the most to the Trinidad and Tobago Soca Warriors qualifying for the World Cup Finals in Germany and Warner came out on top.
People felt that Trinidad and Tobago head coach Leo Beenhacker along with Dwight York and members of the Soca Warriors deserved the award but none came close to Jack Warner’s popularity in the Republic Day Award Committee’ Poll.

He is considered a national hero by many Trinidad and Tobago citizens and for this reason they believe he should be appropriately honored for his long and meritorious service to Trinidad and Tobago’s football. Trinidad and Tobago’s Captain Dwight Yorke said: “It was on Jack’s shoulders that we made it to the World Cup Finals. Without him,” added Yorke, “it would never have been possible.”
Jack Warner has helped his country outside the football arena. Many still remember that when the youthful Miss Universe 1998 Wendy Fitzwilliam was desperately seeking a sponsor for the trip to the international pageant in Hawaii, Warner quietly purchased a first class ticket for her. That he is always wiling to lend a helping hand to the youth stems from Warner's own struggles growing up in Rio Claro and Longdenville, Chaguanas.

Indeed, his own ascendancy from “Zero to Hero” was not an easy climb for the FIFA Vice President who once cut cane in Central Trinidad to help out at home. "We were poor, very poor. I used to cut cane, look after pigs, and walk six miles to and from school. Those were tough times," recalls the Presentation College, Chaguanas graduate who is today an astute and successful businessman.

Warner is a graduate of the University of the West Indies in history and sociology and served as a teacher in Trinidad for 23 years. He also served at one time as a Special Reserve Police (SRP).

Even though he was not awarded a national medal by the present government befitting his contribution, Jack Austin Warner, deputy political leader of the main opposition party in the country, stated that he felt vindicated by the Republic Day Award which he received from the President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago Professor George Maxwell Richards.

The Republic Day Award is given to a great national achiever and is in keeping with Trinidad and Tobago’s status as a Republic.

Other recipients of the Award:
Roman Catholic Archbishop His Grace Anthony Pantin, Former Governor-General and President Sir Ellis Clarke, Educator Dr.Anna Mahase, Servol Chairman Fr.Gerard Pantin, Former President and First Lady, Justice Noor M. Hassanali and Mrs. Zalayhar Hassanali, Catholic News Editor Fr.Michel de Verteuil, West Indies Fast Bowler Courtney Walsh, President ANR. Robinson.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on July 28, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
I rest my case.
take care dat dese people ent find you eh (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/11/14/1504627.htm?site=science&topic=tech)


 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: ZANDOLIE on July 28, 2008, 06:36:53 PM
Jack was instrumental in citing the need for a professional football league inT&T. He also came up with some good initiatives for youth football like the CFU tournament and putting the U-20s into the super league.  He also put in some good infrastructure in the form of stadia and coaching and certification to go along with it. I don't count personal favours to players, coaches and associated personnell as good things, they are not part of the job description and are not neccessarily of benefit to football as a whole. That is similar to the way organized crime operates to gain favour in the same communities that they run roughshod over.

The problem is that while you can argue JW is a competent CONCACAF administrator, its his maliciousness toward the WC players, the ticket scandals, his stranglehold on the TTFF and the puppet-like behaviour of Camps et al that does bother me the most.

For a fella as sharp and talented as Warner you would really expect a much stronger  organizational culture than TTFF.

So whats next....a thread on all the great things Oliver Camps do for Trinidad football?
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Dutty on July 28, 2008, 06:40:06 PM
22. Most people are unaware that after paying for Wendy Fitzwilliam's 1st class ticket , he also hired a coach to teach Wendy how to hit a proper freekick from outside the box.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Deeks on July 28, 2008, 06:44:24 PM
Zandolie,
               I agree with your comment. The part about Jack instrumental in the citing of a proleague is true. But there was a fledging proleague in the late 70's/80's. He was  instumental in killing that league. I wa tiold that the support was very good. We did not have fancy stadiums, but on a Friday night you use to get big crowds. JW saw that as a threat and destroy that league. Coops can give the inside story about the league. He played and coached in it.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: ZANDOLIE on July 28, 2008, 06:59:01 PM
Zandolie,
               I agree with your comment. The part about Jack instrumental in the citing of a proleague is true. But there was a fledging proleague in the late 70's/80's. He was  instumental in killing that league. I wa tiold that the support was very good. We did not have fancy stadiums, but on a Friday night you use to get big crowds. JW saw that as a threat and destroy that league. Coops can give the inside story about the league. He played and coached in it.

I remember those days and all the pressure Arthur Suite get from Jack and company. In fact I remember when a good college league match used to ram up the Oval, with almost the same kind of crowds that the WI team used to pull.

But I'm trying to say something good about Mr. Warner.  :devil:  Almost like keeping a smile on your face after a car run over your leg

Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Saywha on July 28, 2008, 07:07:08 PM
He gave me $300,000 dollars because I asked for it.  Oh sorry, ah dose off they... My bad, ah wish he gives me $300,000 dallars :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on July 28, 2008, 07:17:40 PM
For a fella as sharp and talented as Warner you would really expect a much stronger  organizational culture than TTFF.
Ya know Zandoh,
Of all the negative things said about Jack, yours is the MOST damning and revealing
VERY SAD indeed.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
So whats next....a thread on all the great things Oliver Camps do for Trinidad football?

I eh know if dis site could handle invisible postings.  But Flex or Tallman could confirm.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Victor on July 28, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
For a fella as sharp and talented as Warner you would really expect a much stronger  organizational culture than TTFF.
Ya know Zandoh,
Of all the negative things said about Jack, yours is the MOST damning and revealing
VERY SAD indeed.

Welcome back WestCoast.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on July 28, 2008, 07:44:28 PM
Ah feel if somebody say 1 + 1 = 2, Omar go argue and say "NAH...is 11"...and tell we why too!  ;D

lol.. doh study me, no football on tv and i idle..

2 more weeks..
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: palos on July 28, 2008, 07:48:36 PM
Ah feel if somebody say 1 + 1 = 2, Omar go argue and say "NAH...is 11"...and tell we why too!  ;D

lol.. doh study me, no football on tv and i idle..

2 more weeks..

TRUE DAT!!  ;D
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: elan on July 28, 2008, 08:17:20 PM
I once heard that in order to host the U-17 WC we needed to have a Pro league in place, hence the quick transition from semi pro to pro. The transition I believe was made under some protest from many quarter who believed at the time T&T was not ready or had the resources to maintain a  proper pro league.
Tell me if I talking mess here.


JW cannot be credited with the Stadia as we are still paying for them.

Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: scooby on July 28, 2008, 08:50:15 PM
jack has the world that not matter where you come from you can making it by deceiving and blatantly stealing your way to the top
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: zuluwarrior on July 28, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
Warner , dubbed “Mr. Football” in Trinidad and Tobago, was named as the recipient of the award for long, outstanding and mischievous contribution to our football .

Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Bakes on July 28, 2008, 10:02:49 PM
2. He has opened my eyes to the fact that money suckin vampires are people too

3. He does pay SLIM mortgage on time every month

4. He has um...uh,,well he um..........

Jack Austin Warner receives 2006 Republic Day Award

Jack Austin Warner, President of CONCACAF and Vice President of football’s world governing body FIFA was presented with the prestigious 2006 Republic Day Award from His Excellency Professor George Maxwell Richards at President House on Republic Day,September 24.
Warner , dubbed “Mr. Football” in Trinidad and Tobago, was named as the recipient of the award for long, outstanding and meritorious contribution to national development in the area of football.

Brazil, one of the world’s top football nations recognised the FIFA Vice President in 2005 while the Commonwealth Sports Foundation presented him with a lifetime award in 2001.Jack Warner also received Peru’s highest award in 2005 while Jamaica made him an honorary citizen in 1998 – the same year that the Reggae Boys made it to the World Cup Finals.

Warner, who is well known as a shrewd and tough administrator, was selected for the Republic Day Award not by just five or six people sitting on a committee but by a wide cross section of citizens.. Over 1000 people were asked to name a person they felt contributed the most to the Trinidad and Tobago Soca Warriors qualifying for the World Cup Finals in Germany and Warner came out on top.
People felt that Trinidad and Tobago head coach Leo Beenhacker along with Dwight York and members of the Soca Warriors deserved the award but none came close to Jack Warner’s popularity in the Republic Day Award Committee’ Poll.

He is considered a national hero by many Trinidad and Tobago citizens and for this reason they believe he should be appropriately honored for his long and meritorious service to Trinidad and Tobago’s football. Trinidad and Tobago’s Captain Dwight Yorke said: “It was on Jack’s shoulders that we made it to the World Cup Finals. Without him,” added Yorke, “it would never have been possible.”
Jack Warner has helped his country outside the football arena. Many still remember that when the youthful Miss Universe 1998 Wendy Fitzwilliam was desperately seeking a sponsor for the trip to the international pageant in Hawaii, Warner quietly purchased a first class ticket for her. That he is always wiling to lend a helping hand to the youth stems from Warner's own struggles growing up in Rio Claro and Longdenville, Chaguanas.

Indeed, his own ascendancy from “Zero to Hero” was not an easy climb for the FIFA Vice President who once cut cane in Central Trinidad to help out at home. "We were poor, very poor. I used to cut cane, look after pigs, and walk six miles to and from school. Those were tough times," recalls the Presentation College, Chaguanas graduate who is today an astute and successful businessman.

Warner is a graduate of the University of the West Indies in history and sociology and served as a teacher in Trinidad for 23 years. He also served at one time as a Special Reserve Police (SRP).

Even though he was not awarded a national medal by the present government befitting his contribution, Jack Austin Warner, deputy political leader of the main opposition party in the country, stated that he felt vindicated by the Republic Day Award which he received from the President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago Professor George Maxwell Richards.

The Republic Day Award is given to a great national achiever and is in keeping with Trinidad and Tobago’s status as a Republic.

Other recipients of the Award:
Roman Catholic Archbishop His Grace Anthony Pantin, Former Governor-General and President Sir Ellis Clarke, Educator Dr.Anna Mahase, Servol Chairman Fr.Gerard Pantin, Former President and First Lady, Justice Noor M. Hassanali and Mrs. Zalayhar Hassanali, Catholic News Editor Fr.Michel de Verteuil, West Indies Fast Bowler Courtney Walsh, President ANR. Robinson.

I rest my case.


Yuh probably rest yuh lotion and rag too... now that somebody make yuh dream post fuh yuh.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on July 29, 2008, 03:29:20 AM
For a fella as sharp and talented as Warner you would really expect a much stronger  organizational culture than TTFF.
Ya know Zandoh,
Of all the negative things said about Jack, yours is the MOST damning and revealing
VERY SAD indeed.

Welcome back WestCoast.  :beermug:
Thanks
missed the ole forum while on holidays :D ;)
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: trinikev on July 29, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
2. He has opened my eyes to the fact that money suckin vampires are people too

3. He does pay SLIM mortgage on time every month

4. He has um...uh,,well he um..........

Jack Austin Warner receives 2006 Republic Day Award

Jack Austin Warner, President of CONCACAF and Vice President of football’s world governing body FIFA was presented with the prestigious 2006 Republic Day Award from His Excellency Professor George Maxwell Richards at President House on Republic Day,September 24.
Warner , dubbed “Mr. Football” in Trinidad and Tobago, was named as the recipient of the award for long, outstanding and meritorious contribution to national development in the area of football.

Brazil, one of the world’s top football nations recognised the FIFA Vice President in 2005 while the Commonwealth Sports Foundation presented him with a lifetime award in 2001.Jack Warner also received Peru’s highest award in 2005 while Jamaica made him an honorary citizen in 1998 – the same year that the Reggae Boys made it to the World Cup Finals.

Warner, who is well known as a shrewd and tough administrator, was selected for the Republic Day Award not by just five or six people sitting on a committee but by a wide cross section of citizens.. Over 1000 people were asked to name a person they felt contributed the most to the Trinidad and Tobago Soca Warriors qualifying for the World Cup Finals in Germany and Warner came out on top.
People felt that Trinidad and Tobago head coach Leo Beenhacker along with Dwight York and members of the Soca Warriors deserved the award but none came close to Jack Warner’s popularity in the Republic Day Award Committee’ Poll.

He is considered a national hero by many Trinidad and Tobago citizens and for this reason they believe he should be appropriately honored for his long and meritorious service to Trinidad and Tobago’s football. Trinidad and Tobago’s Captain Dwight Yorke said: “It was on Jack’s shoulders that we made it to the World Cup Finals. Without him,” added Yorke, “it would never have been possible.”
Jack Warner has helped his country outside the football arena. Many still remember that when the youthful Miss Universe 1998 Wendy Fitzwilliam was desperately seeking a sponsor for the trip to the international pageant in Hawaii, Warner quietly purchased a first class ticket for her. That he is always wiling to lend a helping hand to the youth stems from Warner's own struggles growing up in Rio Claro and Longdenville, Chaguanas.

Indeed, his own ascendancy from “Zero to Hero” was not an easy climb for the FIFA Vice President who once cut cane in Central Trinidad to help out at home. "We were poor, very poor. I used to cut cane, look after pigs, and walk six miles to and from school. Those were tough times," recalls the Presentation College, Chaguanas graduate who is today an astute and successful businessman.

Warner is a graduate of the University of the West Indies in history and sociology and served as a teacher in Trinidad for 23 years. He also served at one time as a Special Reserve Police (SRP).

Even though he was not awarded a national medal by the present government befitting his contribution, Jack Austin Warner, deputy political leader of the main opposition party in the country, stated that he felt vindicated by the Republic Day Award which he received from the President of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago Professor George Maxwell Richards.

The Republic Day Award is given to a great national achiever and is in keeping with Trinidad and Tobago’s status as a Republic.

Other recipients of the Award:
Roman Catholic Archbishop His Grace Anthony Pantin, Former Governor-General and President Sir Ellis Clarke, Educator Dr.Anna Mahase, Servol Chairman Fr.Gerard Pantin, Former President and First Lady, Justice Noor M. Hassanali and Mrs. Zalayhar Hassanali, Catholic News Editor Fr.Michel de Verteuil, West Indies Fast Bowler Courtney Walsh, President ANR. Robinson.

I rest my case.


What is your case?
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Cantona007 on July 29, 2008, 07:41:18 AM
22. Most people are unaware that after paying for Wendy Fitzwilliam's 1st class ticket , he also hired a coach to teach Wendy how to hit a proper freekick from outside the box.

Is this another of your "Little known facts"?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: weary1969 on July 29, 2008, 07:51:49 AM
I eh go lie after wukin like a dog wit these maddddddddddd peeps 4 d couple day sfind alil wireless computer and all yuh have me h laughin d people hotel. Dutty u is d best and Palos I luv d invicible post and Elan u rite d only reason he start d PFL was 2 get d under 17 and u c he pull rite after hopin it would a bust.

Leh me go back and do d people wuk
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Brownsugar on July 29, 2008, 08:10:41 AM
22. Most people are unaware that after paying for Wendy Fitzwilliam's 1st class ticket , he also hired a coach to teach Wendy how to hit a proper freekick from outside the box.

Is this another of your "Little known facts"?  :rotfl:

Wait, wait.....I miss this gem....
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Memorable quote!!   :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: kicker on July 29, 2008, 11:31:17 AM

22. Most people are unaware that after paying for Wendy Fitzwilliam's 1st class ticket , he also hired a coach to teach Wendy how to hit a proper freekick from outside the box.

Ladies and gents we have a winner....
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: SUPA on July 29, 2008, 12:02:29 PM
Please list them here. 

THE GOOD THINGS ONLY....PLEASE PEOPLE!  Doh trip ova allyuhself rushin to post!

No setta explanation and explashiatin necessary.  Jes to de point.

Thanks.  Ah go start it off.

1 -

You in dat 2 Palos  :o. Any way like yuh throw out dat thread at me boi. Huh, it look like yuh doh like how ah come down on Marx thread about Jack. Well Marx, now ah know yuh have connection in big places on de forum. No scene, but Palos, take it easy on yuh boi Supa nah man  :rotfl:. HIGHLY BLESSED.


                        Wade, Beasley and Marion - De real deal
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WARRIORKING on July 30, 2008, 06:27:29 PM
  1.   he give us soca warriors alot to talk about
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on August 01, 2008, 08:40:24 AM
19. Rose above like the bigger man and paid for the use of the HCS stadium for the 2008 qualifiers.   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: frico on August 01, 2008, 08:51:30 AM
He has more clout than anybody in the Caribbean and that cant be bad for Trinis.We should be proud.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Deeks on August 01, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Frico,
         I agree with about having more clout than anybody. That has been so for years. That is nothing new. But has it benefitted us? Why is our football so inconsistent. Why are our teams lacking proper skills. Why are hosting  tournament if we don't have the money. Look, Jack is the superstar for football administartors. That is fine but when come to adminstrating our local football. IS TOTAL CRAP!!!!!
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: WestCoast on August 01, 2008, 02:48:26 PM
some people just can't see the forest for the trees eh
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: sub1 on August 01, 2008, 03:02:29 PM
He has more clout than anybody in the Caribbean and that cant be bad for Trinis.We should be proud.


I will as soon be more than glad to have that clout disappear if Jack disappears with it. May GOD smile on us and remove Jack from anything football that affects T&T.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: weary1969 on August 01, 2008, 03:52:47 PM
By agreein 2 pay the FEE he insurg that d govt get revenue THANKS JW we 4ever indebted 2 u
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on September 09, 2008, 04:09:20 PM
September 9, 2008

Mr Roy Keane
Manager
Sunderland F.C.
English

Dear Mr. Keane,


Your continuing insensitivity and disrespect for countries such as the twin island Republic of Trinidad and Tobago are hereby noted.

Such insensitivity and disrespect were again most recently displayed by your having summoned Mr. Dwight Yorke to return to England last weekend, thus rendering him unavailable to represent the country of his birth in a crucial World Cup qualifying preliminary vs USA tomorrow.

Your callous disregard for the rights of "small" countries to have their players represent them as enshrined in FIFA regulations reveals a mean streak in your character and one which will not endear you or Sunderland to football aficionados of such countries. It is a dangerous path to tread.

Yet the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation will, in this instance, at least neither insist on nor pursue its rights to have you and Sunderland make Mr. Yorke available to represent his country but such refusal or reluctance on its part ought or not to be interpreted as a sign of weakness by the federation.

Please be guided accordingly

Yours faithfully
Jack Warner
Vice President
FIFA.


Shaun Fuentes.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Ponnoxx on September 10, 2008, 12:46:02 PM
Frico,
         I agree with about having more clout than anybody. That has been so for years. That is nothing new. But has it benefitted us? Why is our football so inconsistent. Why are our teams lacking proper skills. Why are hosting  tournament if we don't have the money. Look, Jack is the superstar for football administartors. That is fine but when come to adminstrating our local football. IS TOTAL CRAP!!!!!
The answer to all your questions is : MONEY     Jack Warner is a business man and what he cares about is making money...we usually 'benefit' from his money making ventures...Its messed up but its true..if Jack is not gaining financially we have nothing to get as a federation...The TTFF need some progressive brains that would enforce the right infrastructure to build good teams and not yes men who jump everytime Jack advise them.....and to answer the question of the intitial thread I would say Jack Warner bring World Class coaches to our senior team...thats it
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 10, 2008, 12:57:38 PM
Ah wonder if Jack Warner was thee Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago how things would ah be Boi ???
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
funny I was thinking today we do give him a lotta shit ,he must feel is a thankless job ,cause he does do stuff still .
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: weary1969 on September 10, 2008, 01:12:13 PM
He do his stuff because it beneficial 2 he he family he friends and dey pocket. WC fever grip all yuh brain and all yuh eh tinkin straight
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 01:41:17 PM
Just because the man is ah arse ,doh mean we have to treat him like ah beast everytime ,we is not animal yah know.
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: weary1969 on September 10, 2008, 01:48:54 PM
Ok so when u have a donkey when u doh let him sleep in d barn 4 Xmas/Easter? D barn is where he belong all d time whether he is a good donkey or a bad donkey. Is Shreik and donkey change 2 ah horse but guess what d potion where out and he became a donkey again. In this case d donkey is/was and will always b a donkey unless he find JESUS
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 02:06:12 PM
I doh even know what that means  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 10, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
Ok so when u have a donkey when u doh let him sleep in d barn 4 Xmas/Easter? D barn is where he belong all d time whether he is a good donkey or a bad donkey. Is Shreik and donkey change 2 ah horse but guess what d potion where out and he became a donkey again. In this case d donkey is/was and will always b a donkey unless he find JESUS

Weary they eh know that yuh is philosopher ah wah..  ;D
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on September 10, 2008, 04:23:30 PM
He do his stuff because it beneficial 2 he he family he friends and dey pocket. WC fever grip all yuh brain and all yuh eh tinkin straight

so don't you do stuff because its beneficial for you, your friends and family and allyuh pocket as well?
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: weary1969 on September 10, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Yes but not 2 d detriment of others as when he friend and family benefittin 2 d expense of peeps
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: dinho on September 21, 2008, 03:35:30 PM
Hired Russel Latapy as player/assistant coach..

 ;)
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Deeks on September 22, 2008, 03:33:42 PM
Because he bam-bam on a hot tawat!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: damiangoal on September 22, 2008, 04:18:47 PM
Despite all the bad things he has done, the man has made up  for years of heartache felt by Trinibagonians especially in '89. The man is not all evil. :)
Title: Re: The GOOD things Jack Warner has done for T&T Football
Post by: Daft Trini on September 23, 2008, 06:29:48 AM
18. Drives the most beautiful Porsche 911 Turbo past schoolboys on a daily basis, so that they, will one day have powerful incentive to aspire to unethical business dealings

Jack does roll in a 911 turbo  :o ..... man jack is ah bad man.... ah always wanted one ah dem...
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