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Sports => What about Track & Field => Topic started by: ttcom on August 18, 2008, 06:15:41 PM
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I am ashame of the Ato comment on NBC. He was criticising Usain Bolt mocking the other runner. Be proud of the Carribbean achievements, not hating Mr. ATO
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OK so I get meh answer I was hopin dat he did tell Bob he talkin nonesense. He eh disrespect nobody if it was a yankee he woulda b showboatin or some other nonesense.
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i wudn't say he was mockin d other runners, i didnt see it dat way, but jus a question, allyuh feel d other athletes wud have been distracted a bit by bolt's showboatin?
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It is a great feeling for the Caribbean people to achieve medals at the Olympic. One love Caribbean people
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Warrior Queen 2 answer u in 1 word NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In 2 words HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Did Crwaford wait till he cross d line b4 he raise he hand?
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ok here is the article
allya be the judge
"Bob Costas, Ato Boldon Rip Usain Bolt for 'Disrespectful' 100-Meter Celebration
Posted Aug 18th 2008 8:18PM by Michael David Smith (author feed)
Filed under: Americas
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Jamaica's Usain Bolt is one of the stories of the Olympic Games, a stunning sprinter whose world record performance in winning the gold medal in the 100-meter dash won't soon be forgotten.
Unfortunately, the way Bolt finished the 100-meter dash -- by celebrating, yelling and slapping his chest before crossing the finish line -- won't soon be forgotten, either. There is talk that Bolt might have intentionally slowed down in an attempt to keep the world record within reach of him breaking it again, and today on NBC, both Olympics host Bob Costas and track and field commentator (and former Olympic sprinter) Ato Boldon criticized Bolt's actions.
Costas called Bolt's disrespectful to his competitors, to the Olympic Games and to the fans who deserved to see Bolt at his best. And Boldon went even further: "It was a display that should not have been there," Boldon said. "You kids at home, this is not how you behave as an Olympic champion."
Although I love watching Bolt run and think he seems like a fine young man, I have to agree with Costas and Boldon: Bolt didn't finish the race the way he should have. I hope he wins the gold in the 200 meters, and I hope he runs at full speed until his chest hits the tape."
http://olympics.fanhouse.com/2008/08/18/bob-costas-ato-boldon-rip-usain-bolt-for-disrespectful-100-me/
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Now I know is crap dey talkin bout he deliberated slow down so he can break it again. He can also break he foot next race so that is ah real pile dat statement.
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buh aa ,so jus cause he from the WI ,Ato cant say nothing .If Phelps had stop in the pool and wait for men to ketch up ,then still beat them ,he woulda get heat to .
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I guess this wasn't showing off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3m0eKpNX24
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All Ato said is "You kids at home, this is not how you behave as an Olympic champion." and I agree..and if that means I am a hater too then so be it!.if ATO or any Trini athlete had done this I would say its wrong also..but wait a minute according to ttcom I should not say this i should be preachin caribbean love cause de winner from de caribbean
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http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-insidetherings&prov=ap&type=lgns
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http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_unity.htm
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_connection.htm
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http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_unity.htm
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_connection.htm
:rotfl: ttcom these songs are nice...but does not substitute for Bolt disrespect to the runners..Yes he has extreme talent but his inmaturity is obvious
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Steups, Ato is anybody to be talking about disrespecting other competitors?
He, he partner Maurice Greene and de ress ah he HSI squad was any examples for de kids to look up to as regards on track behavior?
Look doh make meh join up with Sam and go over to de dark side eh! :devil:
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http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_unity.htm
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_connection.htm
:rotfl: ttcom these songs are nice...but does not substitute for Bolt disrespect to the runners..Yes he has extreme talent but his inmaturity is obvious
You are right. :) He is young.
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http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_unity.htm
http://www.toronto-lime.com/music/classics/caribbean_connection.htm
:rotfl: ttcom these songs are nice...but does not substitute for Bolt disrespect to the runners..Yes he has extreme talent but his inmaturity is obvious
You are right. :) He is young.
:devil: ah does wonder whey allyuh fellas does come from oui
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Dey just lookin 4 someting 2 dismiss d yute boi when u win d 200 do it again
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All Ato said is "You kids at home, this is not how you behave as an Olympic champion." and I agree..and if that means I am a hater too then so be it!.if ATO or any Trini athlete had done this I would say its wrong also..but wait a minute according to ttcom I should not say this i should be preachin caribbean love cause de winner from de caribbean
There is a very simple way to look at this. If you go to the National Primary School Games (which I'm heavily involved with BTW) and a 12 year old child did what Bolt did...his teachers would run out on the track with strap in hand and WASH his arse!
So I don't see how it becomes acceptable for an adult to do it in the Olympic Games.
Is it the worst thing in the world? NO. Does it make Usain an arrogant punk? NO. Is it exemplary behavior? HELL NO
Furthermore Ato should not be taking heat for comments that Bob Costas made. IMHO Bob deliberately tried to put Ato on the spot to see if he was ready to be handed the keys to the NBC kingdom and he handled it beautifully!
Ato acknowledged that at the time the performance was so spectacular that he overlooked it and even pointed out that knowing Usain he did not believe he was trying to show up the opposition. However he said on reflection he has no problem with celebrating once it is done after you cross the line....but showing off like that before is overdoing it.
I think Costas went a bit overboard in that he tried to judge Bolt as a person based on his behavior during the most exciting moment of his young life.
However Costas has been VERY consistent with this line of thinking over the years.
He led NBC's crucifixion of James Carter (400m hurdler who looked back and gestured to the field) and the US 4x100m team in Sydney. In fact it was because of that outlash why Mo Greene was never fully embraced by the US public and didn't get as much endorsements as Marion Jones.
I was even quite surprised to hear Lewis Johnson disagree with Ato and Costas because in the Athens 100m semifinal when Crawford and Gatlin slapped hands before crossing the line, Lewis Johnson said "they embarrassed themselves and their country with that kind of behavior"
I don't mean to be too harsh because not everyone follows track like I do but I think some of us are still a bit too drunk off of the Caribbean's success at these Games and/or a bit too sensitive to the North American Media point of view.
If you disagree with Costas and Ato then fine but don't make it into a "is because dey jealous we" or "Ato sellout". Ato journey now start but Costas has been very consistent if nothing else as far as his point of view
Bear in mind that Carl Lewis...the most accomplished American Track athlete of all time...was ostracized in his own nation for stuff like this (among other things ;D ).
In 1983 Carl was on his way to breaking the then WR of 19.72 in the 200m but started acting "Usain" and ran 19.75. He never matched that time the rest of his life. The US Media ripped him for it.
In the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics Carl won the Long Jump easily and instead of trying to break Bob Beamon's WR decided to save himself for the 200m and 4x100m to match Jesse Owens. He was BOOED by his own people and thrashed by the US media for not giving his best effort. He even lost endorsements from Nike and Coca Cola through this kind of behavior. Carl was NEVER embraced by the US public during his career and it was because of stunts like this.
If the US Media chastises their own Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson for their touchdown celebrations, as well as the other American athletes I mentioned, why do you think they would laugh off Bolt's display?
Hell...even the Canadian media dismissed Donovan Bailey as a "sore winner" after his behavior and comments following the 150m race in Toronto that Michael Johnson pulled up in.
Let us all please stop being so sensitive about what others say about us as a poeple because I am sure had it been Tyson Gay who did what Bolt did EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU would have a problem with it...and I guarantee you, precedence show that the US media would have had a problem with it too. That is a fact!
I for one would be TOTALLY disappointed with Ato if he compromised his intelligence and objectivity only because a Caribbean athlete is involved. Ato is moving up in his new career and he should not jeopardize that just to satisfy a few thin-skinned people who are still tribal and insecure in their thinking despite their great accomplishments
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Proud of the job Ato doing. But he disappointed me cosigning that bullshit.
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To Sando Priince and fLaSh:
You are exactly correct! Ato handled himself with class, gave the appropriate answer and made sure that he didn't trash Usain Bolt. When Ato and Greene celebrated, Greene was trashed by the media. It is not Bolt bashing or Jamaica bashing or Caribbean-man bashing. It is what the media normally does and we need not overeact. When our athletes are on the International stage we must demonstrate international standards of behaviour. Bolt just have to go in the 200 and trash the WR again. Yuh go see how much millions in endorsements he go make.
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thats a good informative post Flash but you know what I have to laugh at.
Not one of you voiced displeasure with or objection to Bolt's celebrations until it came up in this article.
so if it was so blatantly unacceptable, where was the outcry all the long? how all of a sudden now man jumping on that train and saying yes, Bolt shouldn't have done what he did?
As for the post race as opposed to pre race argument, there's no significant difference in my opinion.
I'd take Bolt and the chest thump over any of HSI with Greene and yes Ato self with they testosterone driven lil boy pre and post race antics any day of the week.
At least Bolt does handle himself like ah big man.
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thats a good informative post Flash but you know what I have to laugh at.
Not one of you voiced displeasure with or objection to Bolt's celebrations until it came up in this article.
so if it was so blatantly unacceptable, where was the outcry all the long? how all of a sudden now man jumping on that train and saying yes, Bolt shouldn't have done what he did?
As for the post race as opposed to pre race argument, there's no significant difference in my opinion.
I'd take Bolt and the chest thump over any of HSI with Greene and yes Ato self with they testosterone driven lil boy pre and post race antics any day of the week.
At least Bolt does handle himself like ah big man.
Omar the only reason I did not say anything bout Bolt celebrations cause I know some ppl in here will just say am a hater (like what they saying bout Ato)..sure alot of people was thinking what ATO saying when dem see the race
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thats a good informative post Flash but you know what I have to laugh at.
Not one of you voiced displeasure with or objection to Bolt's celebrations until it came up in this article.
so if it was so blatantly unacceptable, where was the outcry all the long? how all of a sudden now man jumping on that train and saying yes, Bolt shouldn't have done what he did?
As for the post race as opposed to pre race argument, there's no significant difference in my opinion.
I'd take Bolt and the chest thump over any of HSI with Greene and yes Ato self with they testosterone driven lil boy pre and post race antics any day of the week.
At least Bolt does handle himself like ah big man.
Omar the reasoon we taliking bout it is because we discussing the media. We still not trashing Bolt. There was no reason to publicly comment but reserve our private opinions. Is not a big deal. The media is waht highlight the matter.
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You know the more I think about it, the less I see what Bolt did that was so bad.
He won a race that he was not expected to win before middle of this year, in fact the race was not even in his plan until he BEGGED his coach to let him try it.
It is the Olympics, he did it with ridiculous ease and he is very young....youthful exuberance no doubt.
If he crushes Michael Johnson's 200m record...dat will be a damn celebration to behold.
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The American Media quick to get on a soapbox, smugly throwing manufactured outrage at something or other. I knew they needed a way to discredit the brother before he steal some shine from they golden boy Phelps. They trying to craft a good ol' story for the bland Midwestern soccer moms. Michael, Merica and apple pie. Then here comes this cocky, aggressive outsider with swagger. Ruining the party. Rattling their sensibilities. They unsettled by it.
And if yuh don't think perceptions of race play a part in this yuh either sleeping or unaware of how the media out here does operate.
I'll just assume Ato trying to secure he wuk. If so, I doh blame him. Pay yuh dues while yuh still at de bottom rung. I only disappointed if he truly buy into that nonsense.
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I'll try to be brief.
Watching the replays after the 100 while still in the booth (off air), I said to my colleagues that is GREAT TV but it's awful sportsmanship. No one prompted me to say anything. Ever. Those who know me know that is not me.
It is my opinion, others may disagree - and that's fine.
This whole "I am the enemy of the Jamaicans now" is a joke. So what, I walk to the Bird's Nest everyday with my Jamaican mother, then go on the air with a mission to dis Jamaica and praise the Yanks? How often before this week you think Trelawny, Jamaica has been "bigged up" on NBC by anyone? What channel are people watching??
Are some of these people watching the same broadcast??? Who else for the past 3 months has spoken more highly of Bolt? Who since the race has praised him more. Oh, that's right, my opinion is only cool if it falls in line with what some individual thinks....NBC hired me because of my opinions. Not because everyone would agree with them.
As regards HSI - I was very vocal against James Carter in the 400h rounds (you know the incident) and the USA 4x100 (3/4 HSI) and I have no complaints with anything he does before or after (and he is GREAT at that) but not during. I don't expect everyone to get that but track athletes know - you respect the event. Always. After, you are free to do whatever within taste limits...
No one who has written me (again a small minority, less than 20 emails, as opposed to the hundreds of very positive Jamaican emails since the games started to call me everything from a house "u know what" to a traitor, can point to anything I did on a track resembling that during a race, anywhere at anytime in my career.
Yesterday when Wallace Spearmon did a "brush my shoulder off" move in his 200m round, I asked that it not make air...it didn't. Where is Wallace from?
I am a big boy and I realize this is the big leagues now. I can take it.
No one who has listened to me go on and on about Bolt's greatness can possibly say now that I suddenly begrduge the young man his win, his success or his glory. That doesn't mean that he is somehow above reproach. I said it because I believed it TO BE SO. Disagree if you do, and then put a full stop after it - but turning it into a conspiracy theory is lunacy.
There are lots of people who are writing me to say they thought it was a bit much, let the 21 year old celebrate as he feels fit. I don't think one opinion is wrong and the other right. People see things from their own perspective.
Stop the Caribbean insecurity. It's 2008. No one is out to "get" anyone, and certainly not me.
Trinis vex I ent big up RT enough, Jamaicans vex because I dissing King Bolt - after spending months praising just about everything he has done - and will do.
Welcome to my life.....
Take the good:
Hello, again!
It was a very good interview, just wish it were longer. Your commentary regarding Usain Bolt was very much on target. Thank God for having someone as talented as yourself representing the Caribbean. I look forward to hearing and seeing more of you on NBC.
Be safe while in Beijing. Hope you have a pleasant trip home upon the conclusion of the Games.
With the bad:
Your comments about Usain Bolt were distasteful. Please learn to raise above Mr. Costas comments and be a professional.....nuff respect youth.
P.S. I do think 19.32 is gone, and will say so!
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Ato and Flash: Well said!! :applause: :applause: :applause:
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thats a good informative post Flash but you know what I have to laugh at.
Not one of you voiced displeasure with or objection to Bolt's celebrations until it came up in this article.
so if it was so blatantly unacceptable, where was the outcry all the long? how all of a sudden now man jumping on that train and saying yes, Bolt shouldn't have done what he did?
As for the post race as opposed to pre race argument, there's no significant difference in my opinion.
I'd take Bolt and the chest thump over any of HSI with Greene and yes Ato self with they testosterone driven lil boy pre and post race antics any day of the week.
At least Bolt does handle himself like ah big man.
You can stop laughing at the fact that I raised no objection before the article because I said in my post that what Bolt did is not the worst thing in the world. It isn't!
Usain Bolt is the most incredible athlete I have seen in person...period! I saw the man live in person at Hampton Games this year and when I saw his acceleration the first image that rushed to my mind was a BWEE plane taking off. That 9.92 he jogged in the Beijing QF is eaxctly what he did in Trinidad.
This chesthumping incident does not make me any less off a Usain Bolt fan simply because I know the kind of person he is. I ran unto the infield and waited till he finish his cool down and got my autograph and the next time he comes to Trinidad come hell or high water I'm getting a picture with him this time!
Having said that I can laugh at his antics and then say I wouldn't want to see any of the kids in my club or school district doing that. Beating your chest is entertaining...it is not exemplary. I haven't lost sleep over Usain's behavior but I'm not gonna sit here and say it is behavior worth emulating and I sure as hell am not gonna sit and say Ato should defend it because his mother is from Clarendon.
All of you who sooo offended by Ato's criticism of Bolt would cringe if you went to Primary School Championships and Secondary School Championships and every school boy celebrated in that manner. THAT is what this debate about Bolt's display is all about. Kids emulate these guys and you know it. Perhaps many of you don't even attend those championships but if you do I am certain you would see any such behavior admonished by the teachers and coaches involved. As someone involved in BOTH events I have to disagree with the indifference with Bolt's behavior simply because I can't preach one thing to children and not have a problem with their hero, Usain, practicing another
If you think Bolt is more "manly" than HSI that's your perogative.
Ask yourself this question though...which is more likely to make an IOC commercial promoting the Olympic Spirit in four years to promote the London Games?
Mo, Ato and Obadele praying after the Sydney 100m or Usain looking around and beating his chest as he crosses the line?
I know which image I'd pick and I think Jacques Rogge does too.
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Yow Ato , you have time to satisfy these fellas who looking for attention! stuueepppsss, bredder yuh have ah job to do and yuh doing it well.
these dick heads can't pay yuh, so fack away with them! i suggest that yuh concentrate on yuh bread and butter and tuh hell wid john public.
you are ah legend in my book, so keep on keeping on. Good luck fardder with yuh new career. these punks just looking for rank so they could say they dis Ato bolden. positive.
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Every sport that has a charismatic individual benefits from that individual....no one on this forum needs me to tell them about what Mohammed Ali did for the sport.
Lewwe go to cricket....Kevin Pietersen do 2 reverse sweep sixes, the purists complaining about showmanship ran to the MCC and ask them if the stroke need to be outlawed...the MCC said no, it's good for the sport.
And everyone know how C. Ronaldo was lambsated for his stepovers as 'showmanship'....42 goals later, a richer EPL later, no complaints.
Bolt is a tremendous breath of fresh air for track and field, whose image has been tarnished by the doping scandal. Ato even acknowledges that when he concludes in the NY Times article that Swimming has Phelps, their 3m pools and LZR suits, while track and field has ussain bolt.
And who are we to see that it wasn't a a spontaneous eruption of joy at what he had/was about to achieve
How many of all yuh winning by such a clear margin at the tender age of 21, know how u'll would have reacted.
The commentators mused how fast he would have run had he not put up his hands when he ran the 9.72, he show them he could run a 9.69 with no wind and his hands up again...you figure he cater bout whether he break the WR?... he said and i believe him that he didn't know he broke the record until he did his lap of honour.....records could be broken, they can't take away his gold .....(well unless the Beijing lab find something, which I doubt they will)
Also the fact that no one did it before DURING a race is because they COULDN'T; no one has EVER won a 100m final by that margin.
As they said in Trelawney....'Gwan Ussain'..Like urself brethren
p.s Big up to man like Torpedo Thompson...QRC go hadda name a 'house' after you for sports day!
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i going to chew up some more bandwidth to comment on this tempest in a teapot.
So de man pound his chest ... so what?
Poor showmanship? ... maybe, maybe not.
Was he disrespecting his competitors? from what i saw, i dont think so, all i saw was an exuberant youth. But i dont know the man .... all i saw was a few minutes of pre and post game coverage.
I did not see any one the 91,000 fans sitting and admonishing Bolt after the race. In fact they were standing and cheering,
Much ado about nothing.
Contrary to what many people think, the Olympic Games is a big political well oiled behemoth. What Bolt did or did not do is small potatoes in the overall scheme of the Olympics
OK , enuf with my use of idioms
that is my 2 cents (oops)
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thats a good informative post Flash but you know what I have to laugh at.
Not one of you voiced displeasure with or objection to Bolt's celebrations until it came up in this article.
so if it was so blatantly unacceptable, where was the outcry all the long? how all of a sudden now man jumping on that train and saying yes, Bolt shouldn't have done what he did?
As for the post race as opposed to pre race argument, there's no significant difference in my opinion.
I'd take Bolt and the chest thump over any of HSI with Greene and yes Ato self with they testosterone driven lil boy pre and post race antics any day of the week.
At least Bolt does handle himself like ah big man.
You can stop laughing at the fact that I raised no objection before the article because I said in my post that what Bolt did is not the worst thing in the world. It isn't!
Usain Bolt is the most incredible athlete I have seen in person...period! I saw the man live in person at Hampton Games this year and when I saw his acceleration the first image that rushed to my mind was a BWEE plane taking off. That 9.92 he jogged in the Beijing QF is eaxctly what he did in Trinidad.
This chesthumping incident does not make me any less off a Usain Bolt fan simply because I know the kind of person he is. I ran unto the infield and waited till he finish his cool down and got my autograph and the next time he comes to Trinidad come hell or high water I'm getting a picture with him this time!
Having said that I can laugh at his antics and then say I wouldn't want to see any of the kids in my club or school district doing that. Beating your chest is entertaining...it is not exemplary. I haven't lost sleep over Usain's behavior but I'm not gonna sit here and say it is behavior worth emulating and I sure as hell am not gonna sit and say Ato should defend it because his mother is from Clarendon.
All of you who sooo offended by Ato's criticism of Bolt would cringe if you went to Primary School Championships and Secondary School Championships and every school boy celebrated in that manner. THAT is what this debate about Bolt's display is all about. Kids emulate these guys and you know it. Perhaps many of you don't even attend those championships but if you do I am certain you would see any such behavior admonished by the teachers and coaches involved. As someone involved in BOTH events I have to disagree with the indifference with Bolt's behavior simply because I can't preach one thing to children and not have a problem with their hero, Usain, practicing another
If you think Bolt is more "manly" than HSI that's your perogative.
Ask yourself this question though...which is more likely to make an IOC commercial promoting the Olympic Spirit in four years to promote the London Games?
Mo, Ato and Obadele praying after the Sydney 100m or Usain looking around and beating his chest as he crosses the line?
I know which image I'd pick and I think Jacques Rogge does too.
Flash, you say that you wouldn't want to see any of the kids reproducing Bolt's antics in a Primary School Championships.
Fair enough.
But I counter that 90% of the behaviour we've seen over the years from top tier sprinters you wouldn't want to see from the kids. Oh gosh man, we all know how sprinters for the most part does conduct it.. like some egotistical pricks.. But if that is what they feel they need to do to pump themselves up to give them an edge over the competition, then so be it.
I like how Ato in his rebuttal conveniently skip over the references to his and his HSI buddies' antics during their time in the limelight. Most of what he responded to was not even a bone of contention in this post. All that stuff about the fans hating on him, and about what he has to deal with being on the big stage belongs in the Sam thread. I just really don't get this sudden change of heart from a man who used to fully endorse Mo Greene and his disrespectful antics throughout his career.
Like Fli said.. I sincerely doubt that anyone in that stadium or watching on television, or even running alongside him interpreted Bolt's celebration stunt as anything offensive.. Everyone I talk to just recount how they sat in awe and marvelled at that performance.
but like Ato rightly said, he's entitled to his opinion and we're entitled to ours.
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Yesterday when Wallace Spearmon did a "brush my shoulder off" move in his 200m round, I asked that it not make air...it didn't. Where is Wallace from?
So nobody in the U.S. saw that??...no wonder costas or nobody else mention it
I find that look way worse than Bolt chest ting plus spearmon was runnin ah heat...(btw what is the story wit he and dat chain in he mout for de whole race ting?)
Anyway, to add pitchoil to the fire, why would you ask that spearmons silly antics not be shown?
so far man call yuh ah "bullah" a "hater"..ah go hadda add 'censorship maker' to yuh resume or wha? ;)
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Yesterday when Wallace Spearmon did a "brush my shoulder off" move in his 200m round, I asked that it not make air...it didn't. Where is Wallace from?
..(btw what is the story wit he and dat chain in he mout for de whole race ting?)
loads of ppl doing that, including Marc Burns; that's a comfort thing, like those running with shades or with the nike wings, or even tall socks.... ;D
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Bolt was running with chain in he mouth all up to early last year too and Wally was dusting him left right and centre. As soon as he stop Wally cyar beat him since ;D
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I like how Ato in his rebuttal conveniently skip over the references to his and his HSI buddies' antics during their time in the limelight. Most of what he responded to was not even a bone of contention in this post. All that stuff about the fans hating on him, and about what he has to deal with being on the big stage belongs in the Sam thread. I just really don't get this sudden change of heart from a man who used to fully endorse Mo Greene and his disrespectful antics throughout his career.
Actually if you read closer you'd see where he said he voiced his own objections to some of the antics... and then he underscored the fact that the celebrations were done AFTER the race.
Everybody who talking about spontaneous celebration and what who woulda dun in his position is missing the point... I haven't heard one person say that Usain Bolt intended to disrespect his opponents. As we all know sometimes even the most innocent of actions can have unintended consequences, so intent doesn't really factor into this discussion, a fact that should have been clear by the focus (by critics) on his youth.
At the end of the day Usain Bolt is paid to run races, not listen to critics. Commentators are paid to offer opinions, not worry about who will agree with them or not. Finally, for all the ccorruption and commercialism that has encroached upon the Olympics, an overriding spirit of sportsmanship is still a part of the mission statement and very much expected among competitors... hence the retroactive disqualification of the Swedish (?) weightlifter for tossing aside his bronze medal. It is in light of this high estimation of sportsmanship that much of the criticism seems justified... whether we choose to agree with it or not.
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Yow Ato , you have time to satisfy these fellas who looking for attention! stuueepppsss, bredder yuh have ah job to do and yuh doing it well.
these dick heads can't pay yuh, so fack away with them! i suggest that yuh concentrate on yuh bread and butter and tuh hell wid john public.
you are ah legend in my book, so keep on keeping on. Good luck fardder with yuh new career. these punks just looking for rank so they could say they dis Ato bolden. positive.
Yuh know!
I woulda think that instead of wasting he time with the fools on this forum, hewoulda be practicing he Chinese. Ay Ato, how yuh does say "happy ending"? ;D
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Flash, you say that you wouldn't want to see any of the kids reproducing Bolt's antics in a Primary School Championships.
Fair enough.
But I counter that 90% of the behaviour we've seen over the years from top tier sprinters you wouldn't want to see from the kids. Oh gosh man, we all know how sprinters for the most part does conduct it.. like some egotistical pricks.. But if that is what they feel they need to do to pump themselves up to give them an edge over the competition, then so be it.
I like how Ato in his rebuttal conveniently skip over the references to his and his HSI buddies' antics during their time in the limelight. Most of what he responded to was not even a bone of contention in this post. All that stuff about the fans hating on him, and about what he has to deal with being on the big stage belongs in the Sam thread. I just really don't get this sudden change of heart from a man who used to fully endorse Mo Greene and his disrespectful antics throughout his career.
Like Fli said.. I sincerely doubt that anyone in that stadium or watching on television, or even running alongside him interpreted Bolt's celebration stunt as anything offensive.. Everyone I talk to just recount how they sat in awe and marvelled at that performance.
but like Ato rightly said, he's entitled to his opinion and we're entitled to ours.
Omarldinho you absolutely right...most sprinters does gallery deyself and that is what I like about it. At the same time I see nothing wrong with somebody who prides themself as being a role model telling kids not to do that. To be quite honest I never see HSI do anything during a race. There is a huge difference. If you don't understand that you don't understand track and field.
You ever see Cristiano Ronaldo take off he jersey before he hit a goal? You ever see Raul kiss his wedding ring before stringing up de keeper? When Rene Higuita come out and Roger Milla run past him to an Open goal did Roger stop and wine before OR after the goal?
I can't vouch for football but I know in track and field you celebrate after the race and even before it...not during.
If you so sure there weren't people offended by Bolts antics do an internet search on some Sports Blogs. I read thousands of messages criticising Bolt and, quite frankly, many of them were very offensive and went overboard but the fact is many people weren't too impressed by the chest thumping. There is a blog called Fourth Place Medal where a writer asked "Why Is NBC Ignoring Usain Bolt". Read the responses to that blog at your own peril.
The most I ever see HSI do is hug each other after races, Mo Greene would lick up he tongue before the race, Ato and Drummond go do dey best Darreem Charles pose after, etc. I had no problem with Mo's fire extinguisher because it was after the race. The only stupid thing Greene do on the Olympics stage was the preening after the Sydney 4x100m and the US Media killed him for it.
In any case I'd hardly call Ato congratulating his teammate an endorsement. That's more like men who bled, sweat and cried striving towards the same goal being happy for each other' s sucess. BTw there is a big difference between clowning at a Professional Grand Prix meet and clowning at the Olympics Games which is supposed to be about sportsmanship. Had Mo been pulled that Fire Extinguisher out in Sydney he woulda been expelled from that Stadium...trust me.
This is no sudden change of heart from Ato...it's called change of age. You think Ato is proud of everything he did in public when HE was 21? So because the big brother learn from his mistakes he can't advise the younger brother? Wanna bet that Thompson will never be seen doing some of the things Ato did back in the day? That's because an older, wiser Ato is in his corner advising him to act better.
Again we all fully understand Usain's exhilaration in the moment and I can live with that. This is not the end of the world. Having said that, now that he's an Olympic Champion...I hope when he wins the 200m tommorow he acts like he's been there before...because he has.
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Does anyone here believe that Bolt's antics were in keeping with the olympic spirit ? I eh asking bout anybody else .... Just Bolt ..
Why he did it is another question isn't it ? In my view he took it a little too far just like de player who imitated a dog peeing on de corner flag i after scoring in a football game... In my view he did it and I hope he learns not to do it again, and he is adivised accordingly, ....lets move on ...if he does it again that's another story !
Ato was placed between a rock and a hard place ...he is more jamaican dan most on dis forum and put in a decent explanation but he is paid to do a professional job so he has to demonstate his professionalism ...dats why is a good ting Brown eh win de 100 metres so I coulda take he wuk ...I eh dat professional ..
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good one Flash and Jai John
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I see NOT a thing wrong with what Bolt did and dont agree with Ato's assessment here. Bolt was just letting out pure joy. Bolt had NEVER dissed any opponent and always engages the crowd.
He first looked to see if Asafa was coming then looked at the crowd.
However, I dont see any big thing in the comment either. Certanily no reason to cuss Ato or make it into any big thing.
Ato is a long time Boltist, so what's the big deal?
Storm in a teacup.
One thing though, Ato must beat his own path...not what the yankees want (entirely) and not what every Carib fans hollars at him either.
He must do what he TRULY believes and every likkle thing will be alright. I am sure Ato knows we are all opinionated squawkers! LoL
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I see NOT a thing wrong with what Bolt did and dont agree with Ato's assessment here. Bolt was just letting out pure joy. Bolt had NEVER dissed any opponent and always engages the crowd.
He first looked to see if Asafa was coming then looked at the crowd.
However, I dont see any big thing in the comment either. Certanily no reason to cuss Ato or make it into any big thing.
Ato is a long time Boltist, so what's the big deal?
Storm in a teacup.
One thing though, Ato must beat his own path...not what the yankees want (entirely) and not what every Carib fans hollars at him either.
He must do what he TRULY believes and every likkle thing will be alright. I am sure Ato knows we are all opinionated squawkers! LoL
No harm done. I don't think for one second that Bolt was trying to disrespect his competition. However it can be interpreted that way and Usain has to understand that. I'm glad the likes of Juliet Cuthbert acknowledged that too.
This is no way, shape or form detracts from that great performance. Really happy I got to see it live this time
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I will say it agin do a cartwheel in d 200 when u beat up on d field. Who vex lost
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I will say it agin do a cartwheel in d 200 when u beat up on d field. Who vex lost
Once he do it after de race :rotfl:
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Ah see Sam like he delete he shit thread.
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I stated my opinion on the Bolt matter yesterday. I saw ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. In fact what he did was one of the reasons the performance was so special and why I along with many will never forget it for those right reasons. The vast majority of the media around the world reported on how impressed they were and Bolts antics made it legendary. Michael Johnson, Sebastian Coe, Colin Jackson ,Donovan Bailey and so on all say Bolt is what Track and Field needs right now.
Now where I have the problem is for someone like Bob Costas to come on PRIMETIME AMERICAN tv and say what he did. It was a wanton attack. Before anybody goes into James Carter etc, what those folks did and what Bolt did was completely different. Carter was not even in the final. Wallace Spearmon yesterday brushing off his shoulder-disgusting. American 4x100 team in Sydney taking off there tops wrapping the flag around their head and their subsequent interviews confirmed their mockery.
Bob Costas has no right to attack Bolt in that way given the platform Costas has. Something like that can colour the public's image of a gentle giant who only sought to celebrate his victory. Saying he was disrespectful is a travesty. He taunted no one. Costas needs to understand people's culture before he imposes his own on them and judges them by what HE deems right. Bolt in ALL his interviews was the picture of modesty and decency, if Costas took a look at those it would give him some insight into Bolt the man. Sure say it is your opinion that he should have run straight through the line but do not say the man was disrespectful. If journalists are going to be giving opinions so stridently then they need to do their research and attempt to empathise. I guess none of them could do that since they've never won an Olympic gold.
At least Lewis Johnson took Bolt's side and gave his reasons for doing so. Bob Costas has gone down in my book big time. Whilst I have no problem with him disagreeing with me, his competence as a journalist has left much to be desired. Poor, very poor.
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For me the only disrespectful thing about te 100m is that NBC showed it 13 hours later! The damn marquis event of the whole Games.
The nerve of them!
Bhuttos with money...they highjack the Games with their filthy lucre now now all US residents are left to suffer! They rather show rythmic gymnastic qualifiers than the darn 100m final (even slightly delayed). Pathetic
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I stated my opinion on the Bolt matter yesterday. I saw ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. In fact what he did was one of the reasons the performance was so special and why I along with many will never forget it for those right reasons. The vast majority of the media around the world reported on how impressed they were and Bolts antics made it legendary. Michael Johnson, Sebastian Coe, Colin Jackson ,Donovan Bailey and so on all say Bolt is what Track and Field needs right now.
Now where I have the problem is for someone like Bob Costas to come on PRIMETIME AMERICAN tv and say what he did. It was a wanton attack. Before anybody goes into James Carter etc, what those folks did and what Bolt did was completely different. Carter was not even in the final. Wallace Spearmon yesterday brushing off his shoulder-disgusting. American 4x100 team in Sydney taking off there tops wrapping the flag around their head and their subsequent interviews confirmed their mockery.
Bob Costas has no right to attack Bolt in that way given the platform Costas has. Something like that can colour the public's image of a gentle giant who only sought to celebrate his victory. Saying he was disrespectful is a travesty. He taunted no one. Costas needs to understand people's culture before he imposes his own on them and judges them by what HE deems right. Bolt in ALL his interviews was the picture of modesty and decency, if Costas took a look at those it would give him some insight into Bolt the man. Sure say it is your opinion that he should have run straight through the line but do not say the man was disrespectful. If journalists are going to be giving opinions so stridently then they need to do their research and attempt to empathise. I guess none of them could do that since they've never won an Olympic gold.
At least Lewis Johnson took Bolt's side and gave his reasons for doing so. Bob Costas has gone down in my book big time. Whilst I have no problem with him disagreeing with me, his competence as a journalist has left much to be desired. Poor, very poor.
Easy on the bombast there hero...
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I stated my opinion on the Bolt matter yesterday. I saw ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. In fact what he did was one of the reasons the performance was so special and why I along with many will never forget it for those right reasons. The vast majority of the media around the world reported on how impressed they were and Bolts antics made it legendary. Michael Johnson, Sebastian Coe, Colin Jackson ,Donovan Bailey and so on all say Bolt is what Track and Field needs right now.
Now where I have the problem is for someone like Bob Costas to come on PRIMETIME AMERICAN tv and say what he did. It was a wanton attack. Before anybody goes into James Carter etc, what those folks did and what Bolt did was completely different. Carter was not even in the final. Wallace Spearmon yesterday brushing off his shoulder-disgusting. American 4x100 team in Sydney taking off there tops wrapping the flag around their head and their subsequent interviews confirmed their mockery.
Bob Costas has no right to attack Bolt in that way given the platform Costas has. Something like that can colour the public's image of a gentle giant who only sought to celebrate his victory. Saying he was disrespectful is a travesty. He taunted no one. Costas needs to understand people's culture before he imposes his own on them and judges them by what HE deems right. Bolt in ALL his interviews was the picture of modesty and decency, if Costas took a look at those it would give him some insight into Bolt the man. Sure say it is your opinion that he should have run straight through the line but do not say the man was disrespectful. If journalists are going to be giving opinions so stridently then they need to do their research and attempt to empathise. I guess none of them could do that since they've never won an Olympic gold.
At least Lewis Johnson took Bolt's side and gave his reasons for doing so. Bob Costas has gone down in my book big time. Whilst I have no problem with him disagreeing with me, his competence as a journalist has left much to be desired. Poor, very poor.
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Amen....hallelujah.....done talk
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Like Willi said, the only disrespectfull thing is not showing the 100metres live. Those who complaining are upset because Usain upset the so-called natural order of things. Americans must always be first. Also the JA women clean sweep added more wood in the fire.
Much ADO about nothing.
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I guess this wasn't showing off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3m0eKpNX24
NUTSMAN was in the stands boy!! damn!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Bolt keeps coming up with surprises at Olympics
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news;_ylt=AsTofoMW8I0sJ0DiL7J24d2VTZd4?slug=ap-ath-freshbolt&prov=ap&type=lgns
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Steups, Ato is anybody to be talking about disrespecting other competitors?
He, he partner Maurice Greene and de ress ah he HSI squad was any examples for de kids to look up to as regards on track behavior?
Look doh make meh join up with Sam and go over to de dark side eh! :devil:
boy i actually saw the thing live on NBC and was shocked Ato said it
what i bolded was the first thing that came to mind
he saying that after all the chest beating and prancing he did when he sprint....steupps
and bob costas is a lil jackass allyuh remember them forkers when donovan win the 100m and that fawker break down johnson race ion the 200m saying johnson faster at this and that point so thus is the fastest man in the world.....its nuttin but a set of USA USA USA bullshit from them all the time
What about that man who does run with the gold chain in he mouth in the 200 and beat he chest, dey ent say boo about he
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Dey just play Ato talkin d nonesense 4 TNT peeps 2 here
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Omarldinho you absolutely right...most sprinters does gallery deyself and that is what I like about it. At the same time I see nothing wrong with somebody who prides themself as being a role model telling kids not to do that. To be quite honest I never see HSI do anything during a race. There is a huge difference. If you don't understand that you don't understand track and field.
You ever see Cristiano Ronaldo take off he jersey before he hit a goal? You ever see Raul kiss his wedding ring before stringing up de keeper? When Rene Higuita come out and Roger Milla run past him to an Open goal did Roger stop and wine before OR after the goal?
I can't vouch for football but I know in track and field you celebrate after the race and even before it...not during.
If you so sure there weren't people offended by Bolts antics do an internet search on some Sports Blogs. I read thousands of messages criticising Bolt and, quite frankly, many of them were very offensive and went overboard but the fact is many people weren't too impressed by the chest thumping. There is a blog called Fourth Place Medal where a writer asked "Why Is NBC Ignoring Usain Bolt". Read the responses to that blog at your own peril.
The most I ever see HSI do is hug each other after races, Mo Greene would lick up he tongue before the race, Ato and Drummond go do dey best Darreem Charles pose after, etc. I had no problem with Mo's fire extinguisher because it was after the race. The only stupid thing Greene do on the Olympics stage was the preening after the Sydney 4x100m and the US Media killed him for it.
In any case I'd hardly call Ato congratulating his teammate an endorsement. That's more like men who bled, sweat and cried striving towards the same goal being happy for each other' s sucess. BTw there is a big difference between clowning at a Professional Grand Prix meet and clowning at the Olympics Games which is supposed to be about sportsmanship. Had Mo been pulled that Fire Extinguisher out in Sydney he woulda been expelled from that Stadium...trust me.
This is no sudden change of heart from Ato...it's called change of age. You think Ato is proud of everything he did in public when HE was 21? So because the big brother learn from his mistakes he can't advise the younger brother? Wanna bet that Thompson will never be seen doing some of the things Ato did back in the day? That's because an older, wiser Ato is in his corner advising him to act better.
Again we all fully understand Usain's exhilaration in the moment and I can live with that. This is not the end of the world. Having said that, now that he's an Olympic Champion...I hope when he wins the 200m tommorow he acts like he's been there before...because he has.
Good post flash, but lemme pick a hole or two.
Firstly, you can't make a comparison between football and track; they not even remotely within the same realm of norms to draw that as a reference. Two whole different animals yuh talking bout there.
Secondly, I'm glad you finally introduced a source other than the folks at NBC with regard to objection to Bolt's antics. This is what I wanted to know all the time, who is the ones complaining. However, let me say that I would be very interested in getting further information about the demographic of the track forums you cited. Something tells me the majority of the aggrieved posters logging on to servers somewhere between Mexico and Canada.
Thirdly, this talk you making about Ato has matured and is a changed man is a massive assumption. We not working with that here, we are critiquing his comments on NBC. What you said there is the equivalent to Ben Johnson sitting in an NBC studio decrying drug cheats in track and field, and us interpreting it as a man who has matured and seen the error of his ways.. U self know that cyah happen, first reaction would be who de ass is Ben Johnson to talk about drug cheats? Oh, and I even forgot the part where you conveniently extricated the example of HSI huddling and praying after a race as an exemplary moment yet forget all the gallery and galavanting that was more often par for the course.
Now i could see the argument for during race and post race antics (much like the outlawing of taunting in the leadup to a touchdown in NFL, but pretty much anything goes once you get into the end zone), however I didn't think Bolt's celebrations were directed at his competitors. If he had turned around on his way to the finish line and laughed in men face, then I could say it was unacceptable.. but this was a man just expressing himself on the way to victory.
So at this point ah feel we go hadda agree to disagree. :beermug:
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I just have a sneaky feeling that dis whole thing became an issue because it was not an American athlete gallerying heself......Gwan Bolt boy!!!........
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Yuh tink I tell yuh cartwheel 4 d final in d 200
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Yuh tink I tell yuh cartwheel 4 d final in d 200
Yeah boy just stop just before de finish line and do ah big ole cartwheel over the line to end....heh heh heh....
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Nice post Omarldinho. You make some excellent points. The whole thing is how men could sit in a studio and criticize a man like that and the man has no way of responding to what they are saying. You have a platform like that and it colours people's perception. If the man were on the show and you put the point to him and he has a chance to respond, fine. But don't tell people the man was disrespectful when it wasn't the case. You ruin a man in the public's eyes just so ? Especially when your viewpoint is NOT in the majority ? My previous post has in the other things I want to say, especially about Bob Costas and his poor journalism.
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Yuh tink I tell yuh cartwheel 4 d final in d 200
Yeah boy just stop just before de finish line and do ah big ole cartwheel over the line to end....heh heh heh....
do ah coke sniff on d finish line :devil:
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Okay, I have a problem with mercy rules in American youth sports. I am a believer that if you had train as hard as I did I would not be beating you down. So go home train harder and come back. However, you don't belittle the opponent with gesture, but with the score or the time.
What all of you who trying to buss up alyuh mouth on Ato is that, Ato is not the only professional in this equation Bolt is also. He is a professional and must keep in mind that simple gestures can be misread as they maybe now. Run, jump scream, wine do whatever AFTER the race, if you want to look around fine but relax til u cross the line. For all the positive Ato said before, during and after the race the only thing we could find to talk about is the one criticism. Get off it.
All of you who talking about Ato hating, guess who was a pioneer for the drive phase that every sprinter using now? So chill out with the "green eye" talk. Ato have nothig to hate on.
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Yeh Bolt turn around and show yuh opponents the middle finger before yuh finish the race..because according to some ppl you train hard so you deserve to do whatever you want and the commentators should not say shit bout it..(and allyuh could dat anyway allyuh want!!)
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Okay, I have a problem with mercy rules in American youth sports. I am a believer that if you had train as hard as I did I would not be beating you down. So go home train harder and come back. However, you don't belittle the opponent with gesture, but with the score or the time.
What all of you who trying to buss up alyuh mouth on Ato is that, Ato is not the only professional in this equation Bolt is also. He is a professional and must keep in mind that simple gestures can be misread as they maybe now. Run, jump scream, wine do whatever AFTER the race, if you want to look around fine but relax til u cross the line. For all the positive Ato said before, during and after the race the only thing we could find to talk about is the one criticism. Get off it.
All of you who talking about Ato hating, guess who was a pioneer for the drive phase that every sprinter using now? So chill out with the "green eye" talk. Ato have nothig to hate on.
Expect Bolt doing the Jog phase ;D
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
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Bolt should send message via leroy and jamaica2009 to tell allyuh to min' allyuh business and stop wondering what he did or didn't plan on doing. At dey end of dey day, is he getting dey gold and making name for he self and allyuh still sratching allyuh tail wondering what toliet paper Bob Costas does use to wipe he uphole.
Leave dey blasted boy alone.
Seriously allyuh, enjoy the Olympics nah...this is history in dey making. Half ah allyuh ain't sure to experience dis again.
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Yeh Bolt turn around and show yuh opponents the middle finger before yuh finish the race..because according to some ppl you train hard so you deserve to do whatever you want and the commentators should not say shit bout it..(and allyuh could dat anyway allyuh want!!)
According to which people. Name names.
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maybe ato should ask alyah what to say6 ,before he go orn the air. First he get shit for bigging up the jakans ,then he get shit for slighting the jakans lol .Alyah go f**k up the man head .
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
Lionpaw,
leh me give ya ah 2cents
Ato and de rest ah dem at that time had to Fight for every cm of that 100m
where as Bolt is such a superior runner he can afford to coast to the finish line while being excited about his running
Dat is what grinding dese fellas now ;)
maybe those were the producer's words :D
Bolt do ya ting Man....Do it man
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
Lionpaw,
leh me give ya ah 2cents
Ato and de rest ah dem at that time had to Fight for every cm of that 100m
where as Bolt is such a superior runner he can afford to coast to the finish line while being excited about his running
Dat is what grinding dese fellas now ;)
maybe those were the producer's words :D
Bolt do ya ting Man....Do it man
:rotfl: :rotfl: tru.
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Yeh Bolt turn around and show yuh opponents the middle finger before yuh finish the race..because according to some ppl you train hard so you deserve to do whatever you want and the commentators should not say shit bout it..(and allyuh could dat anyway allyuh want!!)
According to which people. Name names.
LOL Buh Dry So why name names when everyone know what dey say...yuh think my intention is to start some type ah lil internet argument by calling names lol..Most times whenever I feel someone try to start a lil argument i does just leave dem alone..cause I already say my opinion and thats it..
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cool allyuh herbs..
the people who love yuh de most is de people who does tell yuh de shit yuh don't want to hear.
keep that in mind. :beermug:
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Yeh Bolt turn around and show yuh opponents the middle finger before yuh finish the race..because according to some ppl you train hard so you deserve to do whatever you want and the commentators should not say shit bout it..(and allyuh could dat anyway allyuh want!!)
According to which people. Name names.
LOL Buh Dry So why name names when everyone know what dey say...yuh think my intention is to start some type ah lil internet argument by calling names lol..Most times whenever I feel someone try to start a lil argument i does just leave dem alone..cause I already say my opinion and thats it..
Me eh see nobody here suggest Bolt could turn round and disrespect his opponents. So I wanted help in finding de posts ah miss. Must be mih browser. Yuh seeing dem wit Firefox?
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
The difference is that Ato took issue with celebrating DURING the race... not dat fukking hard.
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Yeh Bolt turn around and show yuh opponents the middle finger before yuh finish the race..because according to some ppl you train hard so you deserve to do whatever you want and the commentators should not say shit bout it..(and allyuh could dat anyway allyuh want!!)
According to which people. Name names.
LOL Buh Dry So why name names when everyone know what dey say...yuh think my intention is to start some type ah lil internet argument by calling names lol..Most times whenever I feel someone try to start a lil argument i does just leave dem alone..cause I already say my opinion and thats it..
Me eh see nobody here suggest Bolt could turn round and disrespect his opponents. So I wanted help in finding de posts ah miss. Must be mih browser. Yuh seeing dem wit Firefox?
Breds wipe the yampee out yuh eye and yuh will see what ah torkin bout :beermug:
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cool allyuh herbs..
the people who love yuh de most is de people who does tell yuh de shit yuh don't want to hear.
keep that in mind. :beermug:
well if dat is dey case, "love is in dey air" Omar ;D
Sando I have to agree with Dry So. We want Bolt to enjoy him self, not disrespect anyone. Quite simple.
Now if he get ah touch ah Grenadian in him and do ah Sparrow, pull down he tights and tell crawford to kiss he...ahmmm well den yes I'll say Bob Costas spleen brain cell go buss.
We honestly making too much out of this.
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
The difference is that Ato took issue with celebrating DURING the race... not dat f**kking hard.
So he should cross the finish before disrespecting his competitors? Ok, I get it.
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Ato forget this jed ,by Friday all them know it all expert waggonist go ride out and alyah go have back alyah section.
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
The difference is that Ato took issue with celebrating DURING the race... not dat f**kking hard.
So he should cross the finish before disrespecting his competitors? Ok, I get it.
I'd be surprised if you even knew how to tie yuh shoelaces by yuhself. Gawd you dotish.
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ooh goood. Ato getting blasted on Facebook, the papers and all over the internet.
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http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/editorial...D_AND_BLACK.asp
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http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/editorial...D_AND_BLACK.asp
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TT try this link
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/editorial/html/20080819T210000-0500_139229_OBS_OH_TO_BE_YOUNG__GIFTED_AND_BLACK.asp
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TT try this link
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/editorial/html/20080819T210000-0500_139229_OBS_OH_TO_BE_YOUNG__GIFTED_AND_BLACK.asp
I wanted to post a comment on that tata on the Jamaica Observer website, but that part of the site down.......
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Bwoy Ato, I rate you and always looked up to you growing up. Nah diss u or nuttin still but please explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhCe11Q53A
What's the difference?
Thanks Bakes.....I was about to post that. Reading eh fundamental at all.
The difference is that Ato took issue with celebrating DURING the race... not dat f**kking hard.
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to me personally
this has nothing to do with the fact Bolt is Jamaican or black or anything
He could be from Samoa or the farroe islands for all i care
It was just a very hypocritical comment by Ato considering how he carried himself on the track during his time
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Curry goat, Bora and Boldon
Bryan Cummings
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Yes, you are reading correctly. I am in China and I am talking about curry goat.
You see, the Jamaican-born executive chef, Obrian Tingling, had curry goat on the menu for lunch in the main press centre. I was very surprised when I saw it and Lance Whittiker (formally of RJR Sports but who now works for CMC) said that it was the best curry goat that he has had in years.
I ran into former Reggae Boyz football coach Bora Milutinovic in the same dining room the day after Frazer and company had won medals in the 100 metres. He said that he was extremely happy for Jamaica's success but admitted that he had wanted Asafa to win the Men's 100. He said that Asafa was "such a nice guy".
Since we are still in the dining room, our eating patterns have dramatically changed. When we first arrived in China, Kayon Raynor and I would be up bright and early to have breakfast. They offered a wide choice of foods for us to eat and we even looked forward to eating the morning meal.
That, however, has changed in the last five days. We have no idea what breakfast looks like. None of us has had any.
You see, for the last five days since track & field has started, we go to bed normally between 4:00-5:00 am China time and have to be at the stadium bright and early at 9:00 am the same morning.
We have no time to grab any because we are trying to get in as much sleep as possible. We eat lunch, and now eat dinner at about midnight China time after we leave that stadium late at night.
I ran into Ato Boldon in the stadium yesterday. We greeted each other and he brought up the subject that he had heard that he had stirred up a lot of emotions in Jamaica.
He mentioned to me that he had made some "on air" comments to the effect that Usain Bolt in celebrating his 100m victory before crossing that finish line was disrespecting his opponents.
I explained to him that Usain would never and did not disrespect anyone, but rather, was just being himself. I told him that all sprinters have to have some amount of attitude and Boldon at that point agreed with what I was saying by mentioning that he himself used to also have an attitude when he used to compete. I further explained to him that he had to remember that Bolt was still very young and still had a lot of "kid" left in him.
At that point Boldon backed down to admit that he did not know Usain that well and that he had misread his celebration.
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Bolt claims 200m gold with record
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/athletics/7572131.stm
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P.S. I do think 19.32 is gone, and will say so!
Well it gone eh... jus ah lil reminder...
Da man has silenced his Critics
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I personally like he celebrations...he great enuff to do it, then do it, as long as he doh disrespect nobody...it's is still ah sport, an he should have his fun, he didn't waste down heself, he country or the other competitors....who doh like it, cyah do it. Sport is still for fun, regardless of how much million $ mankind wha throw behind it...No wha bout Spearmon, who duss of he shoulder at the athlete next to him, and stick out he tongue at Bolt....ooops, payback is ah hell of ah ting....wha bout lolo who was tearing up everybody, not dissing ah sole, and the 2nd to last hurdle mess her up, wha she do, everybody sorry, and she couldn't celebrate at all, maybe she shoulda celebrate even before the final, but that is the nature of sport, she have to pick herself up, and go again, and even if she not able to, should she not be happy at her achievements....10+(1000 more others) French soldiers get lick up in afganistan and ppl getting wuk up on ah man ENJOYING HESELF....and worried bout the few million $ less he go make ? Man, enjoy yuhself, yuh entertaining me too
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....10+(1000 more others) French soldiers get lick up in afganistan and ppl getting wuk up on ah man ENJOYING HESELF....and worried bout the few million $ less he go make ? Man, enjoy yuhself, yuh entertaining me too
pers-gnikcuf-pective oui
Do ya ting Mr Bolt
but not too good eh as we takin de 4X100 relay ;D
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....10+(1000 more others) French soldiers get lick up in afganistan and ppl getting wuk up on ah man ENJOYING HESELF....and worried bout the few million $ less he go make ?
How allyuh so fukking dotish dred?
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i find ppl too emotional sometimes. ah doh see whats the big deal with wat ATo said .....or yeah he is a trini and bolt is jamaican steupssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. u agree, yuh agree. yuh disagree then so be it
by the way 4 d drama queens it have soaps on tv
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this the times of the new mellinium. you cah get away with nuthin in the media. watch somebody will make a ato hate video on youtube lol
http://pegasus.dancehallreggae.com/forum//showthread.php?t=153324
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this the times of the new mellinium. you cah get away with nuthin in the media. watch somebody will make a ato hate video on youtube lol
http://pegasus.dancehallreggae.com/forum//showthread.php?t=153324
I followed that link and I had to ask myself who in their right mind would care what a bunch of hood rats think?
Really now!
You choose to highlught the thoughts of those whose IQ's rarely venture out of the realm of morons?
Heaven help us all.
Passa Passa forums?
get life guy, who really gives a flying jook at a rolling donut what those cretins think?