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Title: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 10, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?

Option 1 is a long shot..but we can hope ;D

Get the Colombian Puppet out!  Revolution time... and get Anton out of the senior team....let him work with the youth teams


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Post by: morvant on September 10, 2008, 08:39:47 PM
wenger
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Post by: Sando prince on September 10, 2008, 08:41:06 PM
steupse whats the sense thinkin bout the next coach when it seems the current coach aint goin anywhere..doh get me wrong i think its time for him to go..
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: STEUPS!! on September 10, 2008, 08:47:06 PM
latas. i doh tink it have anybody on we team, local or foreign based, dat doh have respect for him. everybody love an look up to latas. daiz d kinda ppl dat does make d best coaches, d ones dat have dat utmost respect an support from dey players
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Filho on September 10, 2008, 08:50:58 PM
coach eh going nowhere

plus ah embarassing blaze from the US on US soil is the norm..no matter what we put on the field. sad to say. doh mind some of the man player selections today were baffling. but to change coach now, in the middle of the semifinal round, where we could be in 2nd place after three rounds, is folly. we go jess be unsettled and shot up de next three games. best to pray we get to the Hex and make changes then if need be.

but for the sake of the thread, i would go with the Bajan coach of Joe Public as interim
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Post by: Babalawo on September 10, 2008, 08:52:24 PM
One step at a time trinis. lets work on putting pressure to get him fired first
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Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 09:02:29 PM
Bruce Arena
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Post by: grimm01 on September 10, 2008, 09:04:44 PM
sounds like yuh have an idea for a new reality show...
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: daryn on September 10, 2008, 09:32:08 PM
ah embarassing blaze from the US on US soil is the norm..no matter what we put on the field.

we ever get a 3-0 before?

edit: the previous results are readily available thanks to flex and tallman.  In any case, I doh ever remember us looking that overmatched.

going back to '82
(http://www.darynr.com/images/ttUS.JPG)
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: sub1 on September 10, 2008, 09:33:08 PM
Give Terry Fenwick the wuk. If all these jokers could get it why cant he?
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 10, 2008, 09:37:29 PM
Well since weeh using disruptive players we eh want no disruptive coach
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: ChipChipSilver on September 10, 2008, 09:39:20 PM
NAKHID
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on September 10, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
Put ME as interim until January...i cud use de wuk and i eh go do no worse dan de dentist
after jan hard lucks i starting med school... :devil:
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: najee on September 10, 2008, 09:54:08 PM
TTFF could bring in ex Portugal coach ...and that wouldn't make a different...sometime we need to hold the players  accountable for their action on the field ......
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Post by: just cool on September 10, 2008, 10:04:25 PM
TTFF could bring in ex Portugal coach ...and that wouldn't make a different...sometime we need to hold the players  accountable for their action on the field ......
If allyuh really think that we that good , then allyuh must be real MDCN delusional, when england beat we we grumble fire pacho, when we win every body celebtating, now we lose to ah big team we bawling again.

 yes the coach selection was horrable, but there's still 9 points to play for with two home games. the good news is the US will wrap it up come time to play us NOV 19th so expect them to send ah rookie team, our only fear is beating guatemala in their back yard , and as far as i can see, we could pull it off.     keep the faith.
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Post by: watch de ride on September 10, 2008, 10:04:57 PM
Allyuh want to go to the world cup? This thing real simple.......hire Bruce Arena. Who's #1 in Concacaf? The US. Hire the American to teach our boys to play football like a team sport and keep it basic. Play MLS teams practice games. When was the last time Trinidad beat the US in world cup qualifying? If you can't beat them, join them. Follow that simple formula and I guarantee we qualify for the world cup every 4 years. Face it, we haven't produced a Yorke or a Latapy in almost 3 decades and I don't think one is coming anytime soon.

Follow that simple formula and Watch de Ride!!!
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Post by: Filho on September 10, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
ah embarassing blaze from the US on US soil is the norm..no matter what we put on the field.

we ever get a 3-0 before?

edit: the previous results are readily available thanks to flex and tallman.  In any case, I doh ever remember us looking that overmatched.

going back to '82
(http://www.darynr.com/images/ttUS.JPG)

you joking right. doh watch score and get tie up. we get real overmatch in plenty games and still keep the score tight. Tonite we shoulda colleck about 8 and it was only 3-0. And I not even trying to say if this was the worst or not...all I saying is we tired go there and didn't compete
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 10:13:36 PM
Stephan Hart .
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Gazza on September 10, 2008, 10:21:25 PM
My sentiments exact. We should hire Arena, Preki or any good american coach out there. For there discipline and work ethic, also their inovativeness when it comes to physical preparation and match preparation. Even a Mexican. Mexico already know how to qualify from this part of the world. Why you think they have Ericcson? It is to have more success against the European world when they face them at the world cup. Thats why we should bring in the american(preferable for language) or a competent mexican.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Mock de Dread on September 10, 2008, 10:39:46 PM

Brian Lara

1) cause right now any body better than pancho

2) man like dwight will tell keane i never got the text bad reception in trinidad, especially up in zen where me and brian was in the after party

point is get rid of pancho dont care who replaces him right now, some vagrant or a columbian whore


i would love if latas got the chance if he should want it

Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: AB.Trini on September 10, 2008, 10:45:55 PM
Could Bruce Arena and Stephen Hart take us to the 'promise land'? Yuh know Arena eh look like no saga boy (Mats) and he looking like he like to hang out smoke and drink . The man  does look like all business. But could he manage  the TTFFF and get by all the nonsense to take us to SA2010?
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Post by: Quags on September 10, 2008, 10:56:39 PM
Which professional coach could realistically put up with the backwardness of doing business  with Sport Technology ind Trinidad and the TTFF . Yah eint see they saran wrap Kenwyne Jones knee is not ah sandwich MF ,why yah think Roy Kneene send back for Yorke quick sharp when he heard he get more injured .But any coach will need to stand up like Beenie man and demand what he wants from thesse neolithic sport administrators  .
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Post by: Peong on September 10, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Wa revolution?  Jack still in charge.
Finding a good coach who willin to take shit from Jack and Co. is a long shot boy.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 10, 2008, 11:10:51 PM
Where was everybody happy because u is DUMBTIST LOVE CHILE doh but we in yuh nonesense. We have been sayin from day zero d fella eh have a clue but some of all yuh have some vested interest in dis fool. My sis who saw d SW live for d first time in yrs v El Salvador and made d trip 2 Chicago could ask y Telesford and Edwards on d side plus she like Cyd husstle.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Baygo Boy on September 11, 2008, 12:02:46 AM
Who goh fire ah coach after a lost to the USA? I could understand a bad lost to a CFU team. Paranoia is a disease.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 12:05:45 AM
FYI we lost 2 Bermuda dat eh even a bad CFU team. Losin 2 d US eh d issue is how u loose man talkin bout Lawerence tired. He eh playin 4 Swansea so how tired he could b.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Baygo Boy on September 11, 2008, 12:17:20 AM
TTFF could bring in ex Portugal coach ...and that wouldn't make a different...sometime we need to hold the players  accountable for their action on the field ......

Exactly
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 01:05:09 AM
What bout d players who eh make d field who responsible 4 dat? D Portuguese coach will select he best players or stick 2 ah set of players not changing players like d players does change d draws
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Saywha on September 11, 2008, 06:20:48 AM
One step at a time trinis. lets work on putting pressure to get him fired first

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Saywha on September 11, 2008, 06:22:46 AM
d USA coach, obviously he doing something right ;D

if not Bertille :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Post by: vb on September 11, 2008, 06:26:48 AM
Hardess  ;D ;D ;D

VB
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Post by: JDB on September 11, 2008, 06:29:05 AM
Wa revolution?  Jack still in charge.
Finding a good coach who willin to take shit from Jack and Co. is a long shot boy.

Ent.

People here want the Disease to get rid of the Symptoms as if anything would change. Whatever cache we build up with getting Don Leo and making the WC get pissed away long time.

I remember saying when Wim left that NO good coach worth his salt would coach us and Jack not pulling no magic trick this time.

Everybody rejoice because we get a big name but I guess now is a different story.

With all that being said no coach is taking this group of players, with all the issues we have, past competent, organized, top teams so people only grousing because of their own unrealistic expectations. All the talk about this game being the one when we would purge them when we have yet to beat a recognized decent team since before the last WC.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Coop's on September 11, 2008, 07:09:57 AM
Here we go again,the norm after every game T&T play,when we win we rate the players and when we lose we blame Coach,i don't see any difference between Pacho and any Coach past or future being recommended,coaches don't play the game,i'll continue to repeat T&T problem is not Coach,our problem is our players foreign/locals does not make a difference,we still have too much problems outside of the game and it's affecting our game on the field,our players will look good depending on who we playing but we can't deal with pressure.Firing the Coach will not help,lightening don't strike the same place twice,we have to try and learn lessons from Haiti and Jamaica,they made it once how they made it the lord alone knows just like us,where are they today?there Football can't recover,we have to continue to HOPE things work out for us again,our godfather could only do so much,i think our players doing the best they can but may be it's not good enough,lets try and refrain from pulling them down we have more games to play,it's not the end. 

 
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: AB.Trini on September 11, 2008, 07:21:42 AM
Here we go again,the norm after every game T&T play,when we win we rate the players and when we lose we blame Coach,i don't see any difference between Pacho and any Coach past or future being recommended,coaches don't play the game,i'll continue to repeat T&T problem is not Coach,our problem is our players foreign/locals does not make a difference,we still have too much problems outside of the game and it's affecting our game on the field,our players will look good depending on who we playing but we can't deal with pressure.Firing the Coach will not help,lightening don't strike the same place twice,we have to try and learn lessons from Haiti and Jamaica,they made it once how they made it the lord alone knows just like us,where are they today?there Football can't recover,we have to continue to HOPE things work out for us again,our godfather could only do so much,i think our players doing the best they can but may be it's not good enough,lets try and refrain from pulling them down we have more games to play,it's not the end. 

 
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Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: daryn on September 11, 2008, 07:25:01 AM

you joking right. doh watch score and get tie up. we get real overmatch in plenty games and still keep the score tight. Tonite we shoulda colleck about 8 and it was only 3-0. And I not even trying to say if this was the worst or not...all I saying is we tired go there and didn't compete

of course we were overmatched on many occasions.  A side doesn't beat you all the time for decades by accident.  which is why I say that we never looked that overmatched. 

I have to disagree that we tired go there and didn't compete.  Generally, we does put up more fight.  Apart from the fact that I watch all those games, I find it hard to believe that every game could be an "embarassing blaze" and yet that doh really show up in the scoreline.
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Post by: samo on September 11, 2008, 07:34:55 AM
Yes I agree coaches doh play de game, but the coach is the one who picking the players and if the players he picking not playing good, then what..Let me ask you a question, if Beenie did not take over the team when he did and we left the same coach in charge, do you think we would have qualified for the World Cup? We

What are the positives from a player and coaching aspect after last nights game:Let me hear de fellas who say leave the coach.

Players:



Coach:
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Pasdah Beatz on September 11, 2008, 07:37:29 AM
BbB - Bring back Bertille
I say no more

Also Terry Fenwick as de head Coach don't sound too bad
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: assrancid on September 11, 2008, 07:45:46 AM
Here we go again,the norm after every game T&T play,when we win we rate the players and when we lose we blame Coach,i don't see any difference between Pacho and any Coach past or future being recommended,coaches don't play the game,i'll continue to repeat T&T problem is not Coach,our problem is our players foreign/locals does not make a difference,we still have too much problems outside of the game and it's affecting our game on the field,our players will look good depending on who we playing but we can't deal with pressure.Firing the Coach will not help,lightening don't strike the same place twice,we have to try and learn lessons from Haiti and Jamaica,they made it once how they made it the lord alone knows just like us,where are they today?there Football can't recover,we have to continue to HOPE things work out for us again,our godfather could only do so much,i think our players doing the best they can but may be it's not good enough,lets try and refrain from pulling them down we have more games to play,it's not the end. 

 

What shit are you talking?

So Beenhacker did not make a difference?

Godfather?  Who is that Marlon Brando?

The team has ability, that much is obvious, but it is missing essential parts to complete a cohesive unit.

Maturana playing musical chairs with the team and he is a shit snake.

Why you talk so much ta-ta guy?

Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Filho on September 11, 2008, 07:49:39 AM

you joking right. doh watch score and get tie up. we get real overmatch in plenty games and still keep the score tight. Tonite we shoulda colleck about 8 and it was only 3-0. And I not even trying to say if this was the worst or not...all I saying is we tired go there and didn't compete

of course we were overmatched on many occasions.  A side doesn't beat you all the time for decades by accident.  which is why I say that we never looked that overmatched. 

I have to disagree that we tired go there and didn't compete.  Generally, we does put up more fight.  Apart from the fact that I watch all those games, I find it hard to believe that every game could be an "embarassing blaze" and yet that doh really show up in the scoreline.

breds..well your exectations jess lower than mine. The 2-0 we colleck in the Gold Cup..We were poor, even if we were better than last night the result was never in doubt. The 1-0 we get in WC 2006 qualifying was a joke. We settle in the 2nd half, but the first half was amatuerish, including the red card Lawrence had to pick up for sloppy play in the back. And the ref disallow a perfectly good goal from Twellman. To me, it's been a looooong time, since we've played the US on US soil where the result was ever in any doubt..and that was in a Gold Cup when they came from 2 goals down to beat us 3-2. Before that, we had them one nil in another Gold Cup off a bicycle from Leonson Lewis but they came back and beat us 2-1 and before that, Strike squad tie with them 1-1. BUt other than those three times, we never looked like getting anything from the games. We only muster a 20 minutes or so of nice ball AFTER the US score and drop their intensity, and I does shake my head how we does hold on to that and talk like we play good against a side that lost interest in the game. That is what I mean by don't compete. result is never in doubt. And yes..a awicked blaze doh necessarily show up in teh score line..Watch Germany v Spain for a prime example. US does score against us, miss a host of chances, then drop their intensity and play at our pace. They never fully interested in blowing us out completely. It's actualy something the youths learn from small and it in their psychi. Harkes was complaining about it last night. They've never had the killer instinct and bad mind like a Costa Rica, or Mexico who does want to embarass yuh if you looking weak. BUt enough of the doom and gloom. This side have potential. They strongly believe we could still make the HEx. It eh over and Oct 11, we have a chance to really do something special, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: supporter on September 11, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Wim laughing all the way back home.

Horrendous mistake putting him thru the crap TTFF had, and then letting him go.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 08:45:23 AM
Laughin nah man he have a wuk he eh have we 2 study
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: 7 blessings on September 11, 2008, 08:46:43 AM
Jan Steadman..one ah the best, if not the best coach in Trinidad. He will deal wid dem boi and dem slackness em doing...esp dah long ball ting dem like..

Ask any Former Naps man or Benedicts man or anybody who ever play under Steady....He is the answer.

Only ting is Jack and corneal go get cuss whey from him if dem try and dictate he pace.

Another good coach was ah man dey use to call "Carpet" ah red man wid ah bald heas..wonder if anbody know bout he. We hah real good coaches right here who understand we football...who know we history and traditional weaknesses
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 08:59:51 AM
Carpet coach Carapichaima last yr me eh know if he wit dem this yr
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: ann3boys on September 11, 2008, 09:04:35 AM
I vote for 'other'...actually anybody but anton and maturana would good.
seriously, the theme should be 'do no harm' that man has harmed our football, our spirit, and our hearts
sad, sad, :'(

Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 09:07:34 AM
It may b d fact dat I about 2 go 2 ah funeral so I ust b eh tinkin straight but I go take Anton not Alvin in front of d dumbtist
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: jai john on September 11, 2008, 09:21:17 AM
Nah we should nationalise de following players.....Bufon, Juan, Pepe, Cole, Maicon, Riquelme, Kaka, Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Drogba...then give me de wuk  :devil:
if not den we need ah magician who can transform we small rodents into chariots and fine  horses. Since you is a small magician den we go need ah big Magician.....
Maybe yuh fadder go get meh point here .....yuh cant make bread out of stone !!!!!!
If we had good players den I could be coach !!!
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 09:29:21 AM
I read somewhere a good coach could take a bunch of mediocre players and make dem qualify 4 a WC. Anybody ever experience dat I hear is a dutch guy did dat anybody ever hear bout he 
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 11, 2008, 09:44:13 AM
So I been peepin forever at some ah de assness I does read on here and I think is time ah fall een. 

We need to stop de fantasies because Maturana an he assness seem very much entrenched.  As much as he is ah imps coach we eh ha no say in it.

For argument sake though I agree with those who say Bruce Arena.  The US team have some talent but it's tremendously disciplined as a unit.  And seeing how Arena stretch that talent so far he would be the right one to instill the type of team discipline necessary for our young warriors to advance as players.

BTW Coops yuh talk rell assness jedd!!
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: sub1 on September 11, 2008, 11:21:35 AM
Here we go again,the norm after every game T&T play,when we win we rate the players and when we lose we blame Coach,i don't see any difference between Pacho and any Coach past or future being recommended,coaches don't play the game,i'll continue to repeat T&T problem is not Coach,our problem is our players foreign/locals does not make a difference,we still have too much problems outside of the game and it's affecting our game on the field,our players will look good depending on who we playing but we can't deal with pressure.Firing the Coach will not help,lightening don't strike the same place twice,we have to try and learn lessons from Haiti and Jamaica,they made it once how they made it the lord alone knows just like us,where are they today?there Football can't recover,we have to continue to HOPE things work out for us again,our godfather could only do so much,i think our players doing the best they can but may be it's not good enough,lets try and refrain from pulling them down we have more games to play,it's not the end. 

 

Coops boy, the only reason I read your posts is out of respect for your contribution on the field and your brother who went to school with me. I also hope, like the child peeping through the window hoping her father, who has left and started a new family,will return soon, that I would read something that makes some sort of sense. Alas I am left like that child still waiting.
Maturana has proven to be a man very unstable in all his ways. From february to now you are telling me he cant settle on a core set of players? that there isnt even the semblance of a core starting 11. Added to that how does one explain his whimsical omissions. Maturana uses and used his lack of hablando english to his advantage. Hence the lack of press conferences after games. Do you know it was the press that was instrumental in running him  out of Honduras. he coudnt use the language barrier issue and could not explain to the press his weird selections and their poor perfomances. Sound familiar? You dont seem to unsderstand the adage "the buck stops here". No Coops, as i said before go somewhere else and sell that BS. Your godfather needs to leave T&t football to competent people who know about football,because anyone who knows anything about football would not have brought Maturana in the first place, and if it was a mistake they would have gotten rid of him by now.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Coop's on September 11, 2008, 11:25:58 AM
You know something,i find some people could only talk when T&T lose,this forum was dead for some weeks,all of a sudden people i eh see in years coming out of the woodwork,like they does glad when we lose becuase they never have anything good to say,i personally wish the thoughts and things you all say would make us win a game but is sports and it don't happen like that,i think everybody is entitled to their thoughts and views weather good or bad,agree or don't agree it's not facts or anything anyone have to do,so don't raise you all blood pressure when ever i say something.  
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: sub1 on September 11, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
You know something,i find some people could only talk when T&T lose,this forum was dead for some weeks,all of a sudden people i eh see in years coming out of the woodwork,like they does glad when we lose becuase they never have anything good to say,i personally wish the thoughts and things you all say would make us win a game but is sports and it don't happen like that,i think everybody is entitled to their thoughts and views weather good or bad,agree or don't agree it's not facts or anything anyone have to do,so don't raise you all blood pressure when ever i say something.  

Not raising blood pressure boss. Just trying to help you think more critically.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: just cool on September 11, 2008, 11:46:54 AM
I read somewhere a good coach could take a bunch of mediocre players and make dem qualify 4 a WC. Anybody ever experience dat I hear is a dutch guy did dat anybody ever hear bout he 
Do you ever have anything constructive or technical to add to the discourse . it's always sarcasm, WIM GONE , BEENIE GONE !! yes yuh fadder leff and gone , so stop lookin through the window, THEY NOT COMING BACK SISTA!!!

bring something that could @ least settle the heart and nerves, instead is only ah set ah doomsday preaching.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Babalawo on September 11, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
well it have to be a top pro league or english coach like John Barnes who knows who is the best 18 players in trinidad. because Maturana and Cornmeal dont seem to know who they are
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Bakes on September 11, 2008, 12:23:55 PM
You know something,i find some people could only talk when T&T lose,this forum was dead for some weeks,all of a sudden people i eh see in years coming out of the woodwork,like they does glad when we lose becuase they never have anything good to say,i personally wish the thoughts and things you all say would make us win a game but is sports and it don't happen like that,i think everybody is entitled to their thoughts and views weather good or bad,agree or don't agree it's not facts or anything anyone have to do,so don't raise you all blood pressure when ever i say something.  

In all honesty I think people give up hope on you ever saying 'something' yes.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: kounty on September 11, 2008, 12:31:12 PM
coops I think your post good...I don't agree with all of it, but daiz what a forum for.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: just cool on September 11, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
You know something,i find some people could only talk when T&T lose,this forum was dead for some weeks,all of a sudden people i eh see in years coming out of the woodwork,like they does glad when we lose becuase they never have anything good to say,i personally wish the thoughts and things you all say would make us win a game but is sports and it don't happen like that,i think everybody is entitled to their thoughts and views weather good or bad,agree or don't agree it's not facts or anything anyone have to do,so don't raise you all blood pressure when ever i say something.  
Coop , i happened to agree with yuh fardder. when we win they does be kickin down other teams and celebrating like we have talent equal to brazil and argentina, but when we lose there's no blame on the players , just the coach.

 i'm sure if we was victorious against the US ppl here wouldn't have anything to say about the dentist, the fact that we were drobbed makes all the difference.

i've been wanting to say this for a while now and i ardently hope i don't make senseless enemies for it.

listen ppl WE ARE NOT THAT GOOD OF AH TEAM!!! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF , KJ, DR AND YORKE, i will throw DANIEL in the mix as well, apart from those players we are just an ordinary mediocre talented team.

take forinstance yesterday, carlos edwards was complaning about beasley while play was in motion, he loss concentration and allow ah silly foul based on emotions!

now this man playing in top flight football and should know better than to complain when the ball is in play, let alone commit ah silly foul OUT OF ANGER so deep into our half, the result of that blunder GOAL.

I SAW PLAYERS YESTERDAY BALL WATCHING LIKE CRAZY!! no one following up plays, on the break away, the midfield slow as hell in transition, this is what separate mediocre talent from greatness, forinstance cornell glenn got ah few good passes from carlos and daniel, and on many occasions had his back turn to the play, not once did he run @ onyuewo the foul box, he had ah shot on goal and kick it straight down the pike instead of placing it in the corner, out of reach.

i'm sorry folks but these are signs of mediocrity, great player like C ronaldo , and kaka , only need ah half ah chance and is goal.

if our players were that good as you lot would like to think, then we would have @ least 8 players in top flight football , instead of 3 !

 the coach is not without blame , he selected ah real goat team to face our toughest rivals, now i don't know if he felt that we had no chance to get the win on US soil , so he improvised by letting the rookies gain some valuable experience , who the fack knows, but it was ah poor decision to say the least, and i think from here on in he should @ least know who deserves ah spot on the team from who should empty their lockers and exit the premises.

if the team don't look like this fro the rest of the campaign, then we are more than likely not to be in the hex!



                                       i still like the goalie ( PHILLIPS )

CYDE (even though he sucks going forward, is still ah boss defender)                                      AVERY( needs to chill, STILL TOO WILD)                        LAWRENCE( AH MUST  !!)                  KENYO( much better than hislop  )


CARLOS (needs to stop getting angry and concentrate)     YORKE                 WHITLEY            DANIELS

                                                         


                                                                               ROBERTS

                                                                              S. JOHN













IF THE COACH WANT TO KEEP HIS JOB THEN HE BETTER ADHEAR TO THIS LINE UP!!!
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Brownsugar on September 11, 2008, 01:12:27 PM
Avery need to chill and replace him with who Aklie Edwards??   ???
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Mose on September 11, 2008, 02:30:35 PM
Chill as in to play under control, not bench!!
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: just cool on September 11, 2008, 04:51:50 PM
Avery need to chill and replace him with who Aklie Edwards??   ???
Sister yuh can't see avery on the list? don't just read the chill part read every thing in the brackets, it's ah full sentence, he need's to chill , still too wild.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: injunchile on September 11, 2008, 06:51:11 PM
Bring back Gally. There is a tried and tested TTFF plan. After this fiasco we will hire who ever is the Joe Public Coach keep him until the next Gold Cup. Then two years before the next W/C hire a big name coach.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Coop's on September 11, 2008, 07:14:30 PM
Imagine men on here saying to bring Bruce Arena/American coach for our team,i can't understand people sometimes,we have some American Coaches handleing our U17 girls,i guess they are doing a very good job,it seems our girls are real discipline if that's what we are missing,what have they won?American Coaches can't handle our players,i've spoken and deal with a lot of these Coaches every day,i live next to ODU where Edson,Anton to name a few went to school,these guys will tell you they like our players because we are different,we bring something different to the game.   
 
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Sando prince on September 11, 2008, 07:28:22 PM
Imagine men on here saying to bring Bruce Arena/American coach for our team,i can't understand people sometimes,we have some American Coaches handleing our U17 girls,i guess they are doing a very good job,it seems our girls are real discipline if that's what we are missing,what have they won?American Coaches can't handle our players,i've spoken and deal with a lot of these Coaches every day,i live next to ODU where Edson,Anton to name a few went to school,these guys will tell you they like our players because we are different,we bring something different to the game.   
 

Coops I am not in support of arena coaching T&T but whats wrong with an american coaching our team...questioning what have they won or accomplish is ironic cause they have won and accomplish alot more than us...does not matter where the coach came from..what matters is if he is right man for the job at that given time...Like yuh aint see some people asking for the bajan coach at Jp to coach the national team...its because of his recent success with Jp not because he is bajan..(and i dont support that move either)
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: AB.Trini on September 11, 2008, 07:38:55 PM
Are we ready to hand over the reins to :

1. Stephen Hart
2. Russel Latapy
3. a combination of : Hart, Latapy, Yorke and  Shaka Hislop
4 a combination of coaches from the local pro league: Fenwick, Stuart, &........
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Coop's on September 11, 2008, 07:54:06 PM
Imagine men on here saying to bring Bruce Arena/American coach for our team,i can't understand people sometimes,we have some American Coaches handleing our U17 girls,i guess they are doing a very good job,it seems our girls are real discipline if that's what we are missing,what have they won?American Coaches can't handle our players,i've spoken and deal with a lot of these Coaches every day,i live next to ODU where Edson,Anton to name a few went to school,these guys will tell you they like our players because we are different,we bring something different to the game.   
 

Coops I am not in support of arena coaching T&T but whats wrong with an american coaching our team...questioning what have they won or accomplish is ironic cause they have won and accomplish alot more than us...does not matter where the coach came from..what matters is if he is right man for the job at that given time...Like yuh aint see some people asking for the bajan coach at Jp to coach the national team...its because of his recent success with Jp not because he is bajan..(and i dont support that move either)
      Breds i was refering to our U17 girls,ok who is the right man for the job?you feel i agree with the bajan Coach?anybody could of coach JP and beat that team.   
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Dumplingdinho on September 11, 2008, 07:56:42 PM
Jan Steadman..one ah the best, if not the best coach in Trinidad. He will deal wid dem boi and dem slackness em doing...esp dah long ball ting dem like..

Ask any Former Naps man or Benedicts man or anybody who ever play under Steady....He is the answer.

Only ting is Jack and corneal go get cuss whey from him if dem try and dictate he pace.

Another good coach was ah man dey use to call "Carpet" ah red man wid ah bald heas..wonder if anbody know bout he. We hah real good coaches right here who understand we football...who know we history and traditional weaknesses

Jan and Leon Carpette both former national players are good coaches but I see them as good candidates for under 17 and 20 national teams, I don't think Leon even coaching now.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Dumplingdinho on September 11, 2008, 08:28:37 PM
Allyuh feel Beenhakker coming back to coach us.  Beenie was in wilderness and saw an opportunity to help a team qualify for the world cup to get his name back in the "big coaching mix".  How he land a decent job with Poland, do you think he coming back to coach us.  Beenie will either look for a bigger job than Poland if he decide to leave there or retire.  So stop wasting ah dream on Beenie.  He did his thing with us, be grateful and move on.

Latas not ready for the simple reason he don't have the rank to stand up to Jack.  We need someone like Beenie who tell jack chillax and let me know do my work but humans can only put up with Jack for so long hence Beenie left after the world cup.

Keegan, Gullit and all the other big name coaches allyuh dreaming about not coaching us when are bigger jobs out there.  Why would them want to put up with Jack and his BS to coach a side with players who can't trap and pass (i.e. the great bleeder theobald) when there are big clubs out there with better players, facilities and good money (direct deposit not jack handing some TT in ah brown paper bag).

As for Maturana i really don't know what to say about time.  At times he looking like he under jack's control, at times he appears to be doing his own thing and other times he look totally clueless.

What we need is a "Beenie" type coach, someone who is a good coach, looking to get back on the radar and capable of withstanding Jack's attempts to dictate things.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 08:29:29 PM
D man want me 2 stop being sarcastic just because we have d same initials mean u is meh fadder. I know dem fellas gone u ever c me say bring dem back. Dpt but d dumbtist so in yuh small brain is dat when u have a good coach nuff is possible.

ALL YUH SO BIAS AND DOTISH. All u cuss Wim and luv d dumbtist so all yuh have 2 support he 2 all yuh grave. I neva had no vested interest in no coach but even somebody wit a small brain like all yuh would realize d man got a raw deal. NOOOOOOOOOOO WIM is ah idit he saw d Pro League eh good. He refuse 2 go a competition and because ah dat he eh good. But dis fool we have makin man ask 4 BSC 2 come back dat is how bad it is.

So I will continue 2 b sarcastic just as long as u continue 2 b a fool. So it go b a real long time  
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: dinho on September 11, 2008, 08:42:28 PM
You know something,i find some people could only talk when T&T lose,this forum was dead for some weeks,all of a sudden people i eh see in years coming out of the woodwork,like they does glad when we lose becuase they never have anything good to say,i personally wish the thoughts and things you all say would make us win a game but is sports and it don't happen like that,i think everybody is entitled to their thoughts and views weather good or bad,agree or don't agree it's not facts or anything anyone have to do,so don't raise you all blood pressure when ever i say something.  
Coop , i happened to agree with yuh fardder. when we win they does be kickin down other teams and celebrating like we have talent equal to brazil and argentina, but when we lose there's no blame on the players , just the coach.

 i'm sure if we was victorious against the US ppl here wouldn't have anything to say about the dentist, the fact that we were drobbed makes all the difference.

i've been wanting to say this for a while now and i ardently hope i don't make senseless enemies for it.

listen ppl WE ARE NOT THAT GOOD OF AH TEAM!!! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF , KJ, DR AND YORKE, i will throw DANIEL in the mix as well, apart from those players we are just an ordinary mediocre talented team.

take forinstance yesterday, carlos edwards was complaning about beasley while play was in motion, he loss concentration and allow ah silly foul based on emotions!

now this man playing in top flight football and should know better than to complain when the ball is in play, let alone commit ah silly foul OUT OF ANGER so deep into our half, the result of that blunder GOAL.

I SAW PLAYERS YESTERDAY BALL WATCHING LIKE CRAZY!! no one following up plays, on the break away, the midfield slow as hell in transition, this is what separate mediocre talent from greatness, forinstance cornell glenn got ah few good passes from carlos and daniel, and on many occasions had his back turn to the play, not once did he run @ onyuewo the foul box, he had ah shot on goal and kick it straight down the pike instead of placing it in the corner, out of reach.

i'm sorry folks but these are signs of mediocrity, great player like C ronaldo , and kaka , only need ah half ah chance and is goal.

if our players were that good as you lot would like to think, then we would have @ least 8 players in top flight football , instead of 3 !

 the coach is not without blame , he selected ah real goat team to face our toughest rivals, now i don't know if he felt that we had no chance to get the win on US soil , so he improvised by letting the rookies gain some valuable experience , who the fack knows, but it was ah poor decision to say the least, and i think from here on in he should @ least know who deserves ah spot on the team from who should empty their lockers and exit the premises.

if the team don't look like this fro the rest of the campaign, then we are more than likely not to be in the hex!



                                       i still like the goalie ( PHILLIPS )

CYDE (even though he sucks going forward, is still ah boss defender)                                      AVERY( needs to chill, STILL TOO WILD)                        LAWRENCE( AH MUST  !!)                  KENYO( much better than hislop  )


CARLOS (needs to stop getting angry and concentrate)     YORKE                 WHITLEY            DANIELS

                                                         


                                                                               ROBERTS

                                                                              S. JOHN













IF THE COACH WANT TO KEEP HIS JOB THEN HE BETTER ADHEAR TO THIS LINE UP!!!

Just Cool ah fully endorse that side yuh line up there...

as for de rest ah what yuh type there, just remember (and this goes for you and Coops), a good coach can bring the best out of average players.

Conversely, and what you saw last night is poor selections and tactics making average players look even worse. 

Men like Carlos, Lawrence and Scotland must be does wonder wha de ass dey does waste dey time to come back and sweat for when yuh hadda first of all play with inferior players and second play in a shit system.
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: ricky on September 11, 2008, 08:46:58 PM
Are we ready to hand over the reins to :

1. Stephen Hart
2. Russel Latapy
3. a combination of : Hart, Latapy, Yorke and  Shaka Hislop
4 a combination of coaches from the local pro league: Fenwick, Stuart, &........

boy shaka have it good at espn
yuh think he want to leave that for this shit show?
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Babalawo on September 11, 2008, 08:51:11 PM
Are we ready to hand over the reins to :

1. Stephen Hart
2. Russel Latapy
3. a combination of : Hart, Latapy, Yorke and  Shaka Hislop
4 a combination of coaches from the local pro league: Fenwick, Stuart, &........

boy shaka have it good at espn
yuh think he want to leave that for this shit show?

Are we going to give Latapy enough $$ and security he already getting in Scotland?
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: lefty on September 11, 2008, 09:25:57 PM
well I like the Latapy idea but feel Bruno Metsu would be a good choice not the big names u wish for he seems to like molding underdogs into surprise packets Senegal v France 02
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: Weh-it-is on September 11, 2008, 10:18:08 PM
NAKHID

Yuhh is mad man ah wah. He had beef with Jack or was it TTFF? They ent hiring he…plus he like to much litigations bussiness.  :P
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: CarenageBoy on September 11, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Leo Beanieman is not an option. He's not interested anymore.

We need to eat crow and bring back Wim!
Title: Re: Should we successfully get Maturana Fired who should become our next coach?
Post by: weary1969 on September 11, 2008, 10:59:42 PM
D Dutchman who was sick and went home any body know if he betta 4get betta oui we have a sick dumbtist tings can only get betta once d man take d flight back 2 Bogata
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