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Sports => Football => Topic started by: saga pinto on October 16, 2008, 12:28:10 PM
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
Have you considered the leagues in which he has had his successes ? ....not really top notch
I agree he is a bit predictable and therefore easy to keep quiet. reminds me of the put your head down and run type ...
he needs to take a few lessions from Latapy who gets out of trouble ..he seems to always run into trouble ....
he wont be around for much longer I would think ...not after KJ returns ..
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Being a lone forward is about more than just goals. How many goals Kenwyne score during his "impressive" run with Sunderland? The lone forward does a lot of non-flashy work that could probably get overlooked. Holding the ball up front. Holding off defenders. Distributing it to the oncoming players. And in that regard, Scotty did very well. Especially against Guatemala. My opinion.
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
Have you considered the leagues in which he has had his successes ? ....not really top notch
I agree he is a bit predictable and therefore easy to keep quiet. reminds me of the put your head down and run type ...
he needs to take a few lessions from Latapy who gets out of trouble ..he seems to always run into trouble ....
he wont be around for much longer I would think ...not after KJ returns ..
Scotty is good.... and will score..... give him time.....
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
Have you considered the leagues in which he has had his successes ? ....not really top notch
I agree he is a bit predictable and therefore easy to keep quiet. reminds me of the put your head down and run type ...
he needs to take a few lessions from Latapy who gets out of trouble ..he seems to always run into trouble ....
he wont be around for much longer I would think ...not after KJ returns ..
At least someone shares my sentiment! no disrespect to jason scotland , but he have no moves , he can't dribble that well, he's slow, don't run @ the defence in the box to draw fouls.
i can't see him playing in front of the other available strikers. he failed to impress me since the first bahrain game, let alone the bermuda game where he bumed. bring back roberts.
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monkey genius i agree with u...scotland did exactly what i wanted from him: hold up distribute, sometimes run at the defence...and even created a couple chances...this lone forward thing is a lot of hard work. and he also put in some decent tackles...i jus wish he was faster
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hear how good Scotland is... he will be part of a tnt striker list that includes Jones, John, glenn, scotland...and more..
thats how good he is...right ??...allyuh did not see how easy Kenwyne get that injury ??..pray next round with fitness and injury..we need all the quality you could get around this team...
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doh know. i haven't seen him much. but he may just need a run in de side. he used to playing a certain kind of ball, and he doh really get that many chances to build up his international experience. maybe he slow to adapt.
there are always reasons. Yorkie was playing nice ball for ManU and Villa, and would come home for T&T and play one setta toots. We knew he was class, so we make de excuse that he wasn't giving his all. maybe he just didn't find it easy to switch from English ball, to T&T ball. Same with Scotty. who knows. time will tell
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He just needs to really rehearse 2 small goal beats... and shoot a little bit more, and to know when to make the decision to use either the former or the latter...
then he'll be the finished article... ;D
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he not good atall, hes only good for his club, when it comes to his country, hes salt, no dribbling and no creativity, glen and roberts can do what he does plus dribble and create, scotty need to ride pine, actually hes lucky to even be included in the national team, i rather errol mcfarlane than scotty :D
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
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he not good atall, hes only good for his club, when it comes to his country, hes salt, no dribbling and no creativity, glen and roberts can do what he does plus dribble and create, scotty need to ride pine, actually hes lucky to even be included in the national team, i rather errol mcfarlane than scotty :D
Allyuh only looking for beats and flash ting. Dat is not de role of a back-to-goal forward.
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
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he not good atall, hes only good for his club, when it comes to his country, hes salt, no dribbling and no creativity, glen and roberts can do what he does plus dribble and create, scotty need to ride pine, actually hes lucky to even be included in the national team, i rather errol mcfarlane than scotty :D
Allyuh only looking for beats and flash ting. Dat is not de role of a back-to-goal forward.
:D maybe so but it does look nice nuh... :D
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
basically i will summarize what you just said my friend, if we are playing 451 we shouldnt play a shithong like scotty alone as the target man, we should play a 442 if scotty is there, if we play a 451, glen or roberts should start, bc jones is still not 100%
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
basically i will summarize what you just said my friend, if we are playing 451 we shouldnt play a shithong like scotty alone as the target man, we should play a 442 if scotty is there, if we play a 451, glen or roberts should start, bc jones is still not 100%
You need either reading glasses or reading classes or both.
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Trinis still cannot appreciate a solid player when they see one. Men looking for flash and speed and dribbling and flair, and putting down strength, ability to hold up the ball and wait for support, and consistency.
Playing the lone striker is not about getting the ball, turning and running at the goal. It is about patience, power, and persistence. It eh easy to be up there against 4 all by yourself.
Scotty will never impress a casual Trini fan. He is too basic. Too simple. Maybe even too plain. But ask the central midfielders who rely on him to hold the ball up while they come to support and see what they say? Invaluable.
One question to answer this is the following: With all the forward starboys that England have, why is Emille Heskey still a starter?
Anyone care to answer?
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
basically i will summarize what you just said my friend, if we are playing 451 we shouldnt play a shithong like scotty alone as the target man, we should play a 442 if scotty is there, if we play a 451, glen or roberts should start, bc jones is still not 100%
You need either reading glasses or reading classes or both.
20/20 vision, i think your replaying the DR game a lil too much, your beginning to believe scotty is actually a good striker or better than glen and roberts
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Trinis still cannot appreciate a solid player when they see one. Men looking for flash and speed and dribbling and flair, and putting down strength, ability to hold up the ball and wait for support, and consistency.
Playing the lone striker is not about getting the ball, turning and running at the goal. It is about patience, power, and persistence. It eh easy to be up there against 4 all by yourself.
Scotty will never impress a casual Trini fan. He is too basic. Too simple. Maybe even too plain. But ask the central midfielders who rely on him to hold the ball up while they come to support and see what they say? Invaluable.
One question to answer this is the following: With all the forward starboys that England have, why is Emille Heskey still a starter?
Anyone care to answer?
exactly
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We flashy baddddddddddddddd so he eh flashy left he in d UK cyah score 4 we yada yada yada
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the question remains, when will scotty buss the net when we need it the most?
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
basically i will summarize what you just said my friend, if we are playing 451 we shouldnt play a shithong like scotty alone as the target man, we should play a 442 if scotty is there, if we play a 451, glen or roberts should start, bc jones is still not 100%
U acting like if yuh never gone to ah sweat yuh not accustomed 2 and find it hard to play.... even doh in yuh heart, yuh know, yuh not playing at your top level..... Give Jason some time nuh.... He did not score in the First and Champion Divisions by fluke......
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AS a man say earlier , when he ent get pick allyuh want tuh bun Corneal and Pacho.
When he get pick an ent score , he is ah waste of time , nutten to please allyuh apart from the Brazil '84 team
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Scotty...to me it seems that scotty is good in the sense that he can hold the ball, he opens up the play, and he's big and strong.
When playing scotland tho, we need to have another forward with him, at his side, not behind him, like a 442. Kenwyne Jones and Scotland infront would be DEADLY, cuz scotty ability to hold up de ball, Jones hv he feet and wicked speed...thats is ah recipe for goals.
So answering ya question, scotty is good, but cld be WAY better if he has that support upfront, with support from the likes of kenwyne jones. Scotty is look like ah big muscle man running down dem ball.
Not necessarily another forward, but an attacking midfielder who will run past him and collect de pass. Somebody in Latas role but with legs.
yea all that cld work! :beermug:
But yuh see, is really support the man is need, i find we shldnt be playing ah 4 5 1 rite tru so...especially when we need to score, hyland is a good recommendation for an attacking midfielder...(like latas with legs!)
but it always good to hv latas on de field tho...
basically i will summarize what you just said my friend, if we are playing 451 we shouldnt play a shithong like scotty alone as the target man, we should play a 442 if scotty is there, if we play a 451, glen or roberts should start, bc jones is still not 100%
U acting like if yuh never gone to ah sweat yuh not accustomed 2 and find it hard to play.... even doh in yuh heart, yuh know, yuh not playing at your top level..... Give Jason some time nuh.... He did not score in the First and Champion Divisions by fluke......
differeent type of football, championship and wcq is two entirely different types of ball, we need a striker to run at defenders and fight, roberts and glen fits the bill, scotty too slow and can't dribble and beat or create to save his life; why must we wait and give chances when we have 2 more capable players riding pine for a shithong
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you want the truth or a lie? Because I don't think many posters could handle the truth
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Had stern John played instead of Scotty- He would have had two goals at the end of the match. One in the first half, where he could have advanced and the miss in the second half looking for the right foot. If we are playing with one striker- Glen or Roberts.
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AS a man say earlier , when he ent get pick allyuh want tuh bun Corneal and Pacho.
When he get pick an ent score , he is ah waste of time , nutten to please allyuh apart from the Brazil '84 team
Brazil 84 team?
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AS a man say earlier , when he ent get pick allyuh want tuh bun Corneal and Pacho.
When he get pick an ent score , he is ah waste of time , nutten to please allyuh apart from the Brazil '84 team
Brazil 84 team?
My bad 82' team
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
Have you considered the leagues in which he has had his successes ? ....not really top notch
I agree he is a bit predictable and therefore easy to keep quiet. reminds me of the put your head down and run type ...
he needs to take a few lessions from Latapy who gets out of trouble ..he seems to always run into trouble ....
he wont be around for much longer I would think ...not after KJ returns ..
At least someone shares my sentiment! no disrespect to jason scotland , but he have no moves , he can't dribble that well, he's slow, don't run @ the defence in the box to draw fouls.
i can't see him playing in front of the other available strikers. he failed to impress me since the first bahrain game, let alone the bermuda game where he bumed. bring back roberts.
you are right. Scottie can't outrun anybody on the pitch. I feel i faster than he. he is a bit slow and that messed up our chances to get some more goals.
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
i agree that it is difficult but at the same time it doesnt help scotty that he is not a good dribbler and does not run at the defense, plus hes slower than glen and roberts.
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
Agent we not saying he is not a good forward..but we have BETTER forwards riding bench instead of him..and he aint the best forward we have to choose from when playing one man upfront
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Thank you agent Jack...... like all de goals he does score in the First division and Championship was a fluke...
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Had stern John played instead of Scotty- He would have had two goals at the end of the match. One in the first half, where he could have advanced and the miss in the second half looking for the right foot. If we are playing with one striker- Glen or Roberts.
Maybe he woulda have had 5. maybe we woulda colleck 5. no sense in saying those things since the whole game woulda probably flow different. The plays that materialize with Scotty on the field would differ from those that materialize with Stern there.
Glen is less impressive as a lone striker imo. Never seen Darryl play the position altho he seems to have the right tools. Stern and Kenwyne are the two best lone strikers we have imo.
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
i agree that it is difficult but at the same time it doesnt help scotty that he is not a good dribbler and does not run at the defense, plus hes slower than glen and roberts.
go in goals galore and check his clips
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
i agree that it is difficult but at the same time it doesnt help scotty that he is not a good dribbler and does not run at the defense, plus hes slower than glen and roberts.
go in goals galore and check his clips
Agent for Julius James.... where is your boy..... he ah get call up yet?
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Thank you agent Jack...... like all de goals he does score in the First division and Championship was a fluke...
how much international goals does he have in wcqs, just out of curiosity, making the transition from the epl or championship to national is what scotty hasn't done
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I thought Scotty did well in BOTH games.
Performed his primary role which was to hold the ball up allowing others to come into play. He more mobile dan Stern although that not really sayin much, and he could kick with both feet.
Dat lone striker role is not an easy one especially when yuh hardly have anybody to play off of or support from midfield. This puts Stern's performances throughout the years into perspective. Stern is a special kind of player to be able to handle de jammin yuh does get in dat role.
Scotty is an excellent backup to fully fit KJ and Stern in that role.
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Scotty was miss trapping it nuff time last night. Then Ah see Stern come on... killing it dead on he chest with two man on he back. ???
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Man still talking bout dribbling and running at defence? Despite that not being his role?
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He is a good foward but it is difficult to be the ONLY foward and being marked by at least 2 defenders..........sometimes wonder if some ah allyuh ever play competitive football or even have a clue about the game.
i agree that it is difficult but at the same time it doesnt help scotty that he is not a good dribbler and does not run at the defense, plus hes slower than glen and roberts.
go in goals galore and check his clips
Agent for Julius James.... where is your boy..... he ah get call up yet?
he good recently come off a hamstring injury
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I believe he will improve as long as he develops his skills into a role that makes him unique... but for now, with Kenwyne Jones coming back (though not 100%) and having the option to bring on Glen or Roberts or KJ (depending on the situation whether it be tactics, injury, suspension or ejection from the game...) he could improve... his touch is not too bad, but he needs a bit of confidence, like a goal brings... he himself I'm sure knows this, I am willing him to score...
because is he on the pitch not me... and I supporting the fellas...
but ah still think that he need to learn a beats or 2 from a yout' man in Carenage or Grande...
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Sando and ODB I tink it had so many different dynamics at play here that may have limited Scotland's chances........inna nutshell d system is shit.........of we 2 creative engines Yorke in d defensive role and Latas could only do but so much considering his age.............Birhchy is we only fighting sparkplug in d middle and Carlos finally look like he could play football again........Spann made ah overlap run and boom....Scotland get ah decent chance at goal.......also dis is we FIRST game since 2006 with anything resembling we A-Team.......what ah trying tuh say is it too early tuh judge d man.....especially in dat shit system and d personal we have who still gelling and who outta position.........not tuh knock Stern becuase I am a big fan of him but I feel if he was starting yesterday he would be bytching bout not getting d ball exactly on he foot everytime like ah see him bawling at dem fellas in Bermuda.......Scotland chase down every ball yesterday and eh cry 1X bout it.........overall ah feel we need time b4 we pass judgement.......TTFF phock we over by not having dese fellas playing 2gether fuh d past 2 years........maybe d shit system might of work
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I thought Scotty did well in BOTH games.
Performed his primary role which was to hold the ball up allowing others to come into play. He more mobile dan Stern although that not really sayin much, and he could kick with both feet.
Dat lone striker role is not an easy one especially when yuh hardly have anybody to play off of or support from midfield. This puts Stern's performances throughout the years into perspective. Stern is a special kind of player to be able to handle de jammin yuh does get in dat role.
Scotty is an excellent backup to fully fit KJ and Stern in that role.
... and here i have to agree with you once again.
*hawk spit* ;)
the man played excellent in guatemala and played good last night against USA.. Being isolated in the lone striker role in that cobo brand will make anybody look inefficient.. Basically yuh consistently have your back to 2-3 defenders, with the long ball or bullet pass being forced into you from defence, and you have to wait a while for support to show up..
I thought at times he was lacking a bit in pace compared to the fitter US defenders and had some bad touches here and there... but that said, Birchall aside, there were not many players last night who we can say stood out significantly in the game. It was just a better team making our play and by extension Scotty look a lil less effective..
And for the ones who say he need to learn to beats.. Doh get tie up he have real dribble, but he learn that pretty moves dont get the job done on the big stage and he put that to one side to focus on being more effective!
Bottom line is with KJ coming back and Stern getting back to full fitness, he will probably see the bench from here forward, but definitely an excellent option as a backup striker.
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Scottie play good
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This guy scottland has been eager to show what he's made of and fails to impress me. I don't know for other people on this board but is either the league he's playing in is shitty or he just can't score in international football....
Have you considered the leagues in which he has had his successes ? ....not really top notch
I agree he is a bit predictable and therefore easy to keep quiet. reminds me of the put your head down and run type ...
he needs to take a few lessions from Latapy who gets out of trouble ..he seems to always run into trouble ....
he wont be around for much longer I would think ...not after KJ returns ..
Scotty is good.... and will score..... give him time.....
we don't have time, fella. we need results instantenously
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Scotty did well. He put in a decent effort last night after all de extra running de team had to do against Guatemala. KJ will definitely play in front of him, but ah not sure bout Stern. Scotty set a very professional tone for de work as de lone forward and ah suspect when Stern come on he had no choice but to follow suit. Well done again Mr. Scotland, yuh attack de task at hand with whatever tools yuh have at yuh disposal. Ah love it!!! Beat de gringos!