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35 nominated Caribbean Awards Sports Icons
Jamaica Observer.
Thirty-five Caribbean sports personalities were yesterday nominated to be honoured on November 7, 2008 at the Pegasus Hotel by the newly-formed Caribbean Awards Sports Icons (CASI).
The awards are based on accomplishments over the last 60 years between 1948 and 2008, for these persons who have made their mark in the various fields of sports.
Jamaicans dominated the list with more than 50 per cent of the nominees with 16, in the six categories including: Football, Boxing, Cricket, Athletics (Male & Female), Netball and Administrators.
The Jamaicans are: Merlene Ottey, Deon Hemmings, Veronica Campbell-Brown, Donald Quarrie, Bertland Cameron (Athletics); Lindy Delapenha, Theodore Whitmore and the surprised selection Robbie Earle (Football); Michael Holding, Courtney Walsh (Cricket); Patricia McDonald, Janet Johnson (Netball); Molly Rhone, Mike Fennell and Teddy McCook (Administrators).
Trinidad and Tobago has seven nominees in Dwight Yorke (Football); Brian Lara (Cricket); Leslie Stewart, Claude Noel (Boxing); Hasley Crawford (Athletics); Jennifer Frank (Netball) and Jack Warner (Administrator).
The Bahamas has four in Chandra Stirrup, Debbie Ferguson, Avard Moncur (Athletics) and Elisha Obed (Boxing).
Sir Gary Sobers (Cricket), Clyde Best (Football) and Gloria Ballentine (Administrator) are the three nominees from Barbados.
Guyana has two nominees in Clive Lloyd (Cricket) and Andrew Lewis (Boxing); the same as Cuba in Teophileo Stephenson (Boxing) and Alberto Jauntoreno (Athletics).
Sir Vivian Richards (Cricket) was the sole nominee from Antigua to complete the list.
Jamaican-born Al Hamilton, who resides in England and is the architect behind this initiative, said he expects at least 80 per cent of the nominees to be there in person, come November 7.
Hamilton added that he was pleased with the progress made since the idea was brought to the fore, and he noted that the entire Caribbean region is eagerly awaiting their turn to host what will from next year be an annual awards ceremony.
Hamilton, who is also the founder of the Commonwealth Sports Awards in London, said CASI is a non-profit organisation whose objectives are to preserve and highlight the rich sporting heritage of the Caribbean; educate the population in general and budding sports stars specifically about the legacy of our sports icons; fund and facilitate sports seminars, conferences and workshops geared at building the capacity of Caribbean athletes, officials and administrators; support development camps that will assist in the learning of the game fundamentals; help to engender cross country contacts and relationships between youth sports participants across the region.
Digicel, one of the sponsors of the event, said they are honoured to participate in celebrating our sporting icons.
Paula Pinnock-MacLeod, Digicel sports sponsoring manager, said her company is here "because we hold sports heroes in high regard".
"Sports is a crucial component of national progress. We recognised that sports represent a commitment to excellence," she noted. Members of the sports media fraternity, national Olympic committees and national federations across the region were integral in the selection of the nominees.
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Dey coulda give we boi Ato a award too
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"Jamaican-born Al Hamilton, who resides in England and is the architect behind this initiative"
wonder why 50% dominated by the Ja's...
Ato def. deserves a spot there, not to mention Latapy should get some respect too...
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Robbie Earle ??? This is already a joke.Clyde Best is from Bermuda not Barbados.
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Robbie Earle ??? This is already a joke.Clyde Best is from Bermuda not Barbados.
Robbie Earle and Theodore Whitmore are the only Caribbean players to have scored at the world cup, so those two selections are justified. Lindy Delaphena was the first black player I believe to play top flight football in the UK...first from teh caribben definately. Yorke is the most accomplished Caribbean footballer at club level, again, that selection was a no brianer.
Clyde Best is beiong confused with Carlyle Best the barbadian cricketer.
If Usain bolt is not on the list, no Way Ato was going to make it.
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Robbie Earle ??? This is already a joke.Clyde Best is from Bermuda not Barbados.
Robbie Earle and Theodore Whitmore are the only Caribbean players to have scored at the world cup, so those two selections are justified. Lindy Delaphena was the first black player I believe to play top flight football in the UK...first from teh caribben definately. Yorke is the most accomplished Caribbean footballer at club level, again, that selection was a no brianer.
Clyde Best is beiong confused with Carlyle Best the barbadian cricketer.
If Usain bolt is not on the list, no Way Ato was going to make it.
Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Sanon
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_World_Cup_1938
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robbie earl piss on dem after de world cup....
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robbie earl piss on dem after de world cup....
Earle went to the world cup mainly because of his experience. Its was hardly likely that he was going to play for Jamaica much after that, at age 35. He is a player I have much respect for.
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earle good but no latapy...esp considering his achievements, nominated for FIFA World player of the year
as for Ato he deserves it, if quarrie is there so should he...same olympic medal count.
usain is still too young, let him get through his career before he get his accolades, but he deserves a spot in the future...ato has done tons for the Caribbean in track and always bigging up his people.
this awards is a joke, i agree. If you had to put two in each category winning who would u choose?
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earle good but no latapy...esp considering his achievements, nominated for FIFA World player of the year
as for Ato he deserves it, if quarrie is there so should he...same olympic medal count.
usain is still too young, let him get through his career before he get his accolades, but he deserves a spot in the future...ato has done tons for the Caribbean in track and always bigging up his people.
this awards is a joke, i agree. If you had to put two in each category winning who would u choose?
So you think the award is a Joke only because Ato and Latapy not on the list, or is it that you think there are too many Jamaicans on it? Whitmore is there only because he has done something that not many people in football manage to accomplish: 2 goals in 90 minuts at the world cup. Latapy good yes...but I believe its all about accomplishment at the highest level. + the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect :)
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If Usain bolt is not on the list, no Way Ato was going to make it.
The list was probably put together before Usain's accomplishments....or there musta been some kinda cut off date- because there's no disputing that he's the biggest athletic superstar in the Caribbean at the moment....and possibly of all times.
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Dem bias
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Guys give the thing a chance...gesh you could never please people nah... The concept is a good one and maybe Ato etc would be selected..it's not a one and done deal.. We as a people need to be more encouraging. Personally I would have liked to see Derrick Murray and Larry Gomes up there but Like Ambrose, honourable mention Malcom Marshal etc.. their time will come.
Best of luck to the organizers.
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So you think the award is a Joke only because Ato and Latapy not on the list, or is it that you think there are too many Jamaicans on it? Whitmore is there only because he has done something that not many people in football manage to accomplish: 2 goals in 90 minuts at the world cup. Latapy good yes...but I believe its all about accomplishment at the highest level. + the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect :)
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no scene on too many Jamaicans, they have lots to be proud of, I'm just saying there are other athletes that deserve a mention...and because it's organized by a Jakan doesn't mean it has to be biased...jus saying
and accomplishment at the highest level, yes latapy didn't score in a wc, but along with his his accomplishments at club level, he helped the smallest nation EVER qualify for the WC, and represented well.
Ato's accomplishments weren't at the highest level?
Just bigging up my nation...that's all
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So you think the award is a Joke only because Ato and Latapy not on the list, or is it that you think there are too many Jamaicans on it? Whitmore is there only because he has done something that not many people in football manage to accomplish: 2 goals in 90 minuts at the world cup. Latapy good yes...but I believe its all about accomplishment at the highest level. + the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect :)
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no scene on too many Jamaicans, they have lots to be proud of, I'm just saying there are other athletes that deserve a mention...and because it's organized by a Jakan doesn't mean it has to be biased...jus saying
and accomplishment at the highest level, yes latapy didn't score in a wc, but along with his his accomplishments at club level, he helped the smallest nation EVER qualify for the WC, and represented well.
Ato's accomplishments weren't at the highest level?
Just bigging up my nation...that's all
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Whitmore not only helped the smallest nation ever (Jamaica held that distinction when they qualified for France-98) get to the world cup, he was also the player from the smallest nation ever to play in the world cup...and score 2 goals in the same game. Many many players from larger nations are yet to even score aftre playing in multiple world cup finals. I agree, Latapy have the upper hand in club football. But not better than Yorke..who is on the list for that reason.
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What about David Wellar and George Bovell. Alberto Juantorena. Why not Bolt?
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
tell your countrymen who organise this list, to shove it up dey friggin Mudder arse !!...
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Robbie Earle and Theodore Whitmore are the only Caribbean players to have scored at the world cup, \
I saw Sancho score in the World Cup :beermug:
;D
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
Ato has four Olympic medals over two Olympics..........How come that isnt worthy?
One Silver and Three Bronze!!
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
Ato has four Olympic medals over two Olympics..........How come that isnt worthy?
One Silver and Three Bronze!!
I think I was respondign to the comment that since Quarrie made it, then Ato should have made it too. In terms of longevity and accomplishment over an entire career, there is no way you can put Quarrrie and Ato in the same category.
DQ participated in 5 olympics, won 4 medals 1 Gold, 2 silvers and a bronze. He also held the 100 and 200 WR at the same time.
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
Ato has four Olympic medals over two Olympics..........How come that isnt worthy?
One Silver and Three Bronze!!
I did not say it was not worthy...Ato is a great sprinter. I did not intend or do I think I knocked is accomplishments. Infact I think aside from Ato, T&T 4x1 in 2001 was at the time one of the greatest accomplishments in Caribbean athletics - at the time.
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If Usain bolt is not on the list, no Way Ato was going to make it.
The list was probably put together before Usain's accomplishments....or there musta been some kinda cut off date- because there's no disputing that he's the biggest athletic superstar in the Caribbean at the moment....and possibly of all times.
A Hall of Fame is designed to recognize players who have (in the past) cemented themselves as top athletes. Usain's time will come for sure, but to omit Ato Boldon is an error that will be corrected the next time members are inducted. This not a once and done event (I hope). So, let's not get out of sorts about it ...yet. In every Hall of Fame induction (Baseball, American Football, Basketball), some worthy person is omitted. For the Trinis, Deryk Murray, Latapy, Ato, and probably Larry Gomes will get their due at another time. So take it easy fellas. Now what I want to know is: How is the selection done? Is it a panel of sportswriters or a man (Jamaican-born, Al Hamilton) laying on his bed in his jammies and dreaming about sports?
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if Quarrie is on that list then Ato should be on that list also..there is no ifs, buts or maybes about dat !!...but like reggae-fan said "the thing is organized by a Jakan, so what you expect "
You cant be serious! Ato in the same class as Quarrie...you've got to be kidding.
Ato has four Olympic medals over two Olympics..........How come that isnt worthy?
One Silver and Three Bronze!!
I think I was respondign to the comment that since Quarrie made it, then Ato should have made it too. In terms of longevity and accomplishment over an entire career, there is no way you can put Quarrrie and Ato in the same category.
DQ participated in 5 olympics, won 4 medals 1 Gold, 2 silvers and a bronze. He also held the 100 and 200 WR at the same time.
Jamaica 98, I am a born and bred die hard Trini and and it is hard to disagree with you on this one. However, as far as accomplishments go you will have to include Ato's entire career - his World Junior golds, and his World Championship medals in a time when performance enhancing drugs were running rampant. Who knows how much more he could have done with out some of the alleged drugged up competitors. But, his time will come. After all this this should be for the best of the best. If this is a yearly event, these are my thoughts:
1. The numbeer of awards should be limited per year
2. There should be different divisions: Tracka and Field, Boxing, Football, Cricket, etc to prevent unfair comparisons
3. Ato will more than likely make it the next time around.
4. The voting system should require a certain percentage of votes for entry.
5. There should be allocations of votes fro fans and media
Just my humble opinions.
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No doubt Ato should have been listed as one of T&T's greatest athlete and should have been included in some manner. I think I got sidetrack by the earlier dismissal of Quarrie. Looking at the lists, there are atlease 4 Jamaicans included in the list thats quite puzzzling to me. I mean, only one Bajan cricketer for crying out loud yet they include Robbie Earle just to name one name.
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I do not understand who Michael Holding could be selected and Andy Robert excluded. I have seen both player at the best. It boggle ??? the mine.
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I do not understand who Michael Holding could be selected and Andy Robert excluded. I have seen both player at the best. It boggle ??? the mine.
Dont get me started again ;D
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Oh jamaica 2099 change his name to jamaica98
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Oh jamaica 2099 change his name to jamaica98
Things looking up for dem
He move the year ahead by one
is JamaicaqualifyingforWCby2098 now? :devil:
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Oh jamaica 2099 change his name to jamaica98
Things looking up for dem
He move the year ahead by one
is JamaicaqualifyingforWCby2098 now? :devil:
cute --- but two totally different people.
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earle good but no latapy...esp considering his achievements, nominated for FIFA World player of the year
as for Ato he deserves it, if quarrie is there so should he...same olympic medal count.
usain is still too young, let him get through his career before he get his accolades, but he deserves a spot in the future...ato has done tons for the Caribbean in track and always bigging up his people.
this awards is a joke, i agree. If you had to put two in each category winning who would u choose?
Latapy was nominated by the T&T coach who also nominated two other T&T players for FIFA player of the year.
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
They probably shoulda say West Indain sports awards sports Icon. cause in reality dem baseball players from Dom. Republic.. woulda flock into large numbers..
on a next note.... were Jean Pierre ??
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allyuh still on dis bullshit awards..jamaicans organise this bias shit and called it caribbean awards...ah man earlier brought up another good point (besides the Ato point)..where is jean pierre?...there are other west indian cricketers who have done better than walsh and holding and not awarded..dey could bun this friggin list cause most people in T&T dont give a shit bout this..
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
I somewhat agree with Cuba, but which DR baseball player do you think would dominate....not to be argumentative, just curious. ARod - never won anything, Sosa - Steroids. I think Puerto Rico would/should have a few baseball players and boxers included.
I get your point about the West Indies though.
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
I somewhat agree with Cuba, but which DR baseball player do you think would dominate....not to be argumentative, just curious. ARod - never won anything, Sosa - Steroids. I think Puerto Rico would/should have a few baseball players and boxers included.
I get your point about the West Indies though.
Are you kidding?
Off the top of my head: Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez & David Ortiz....
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What about Surinam.
What was the man name who became the first blackman to win gold inna swimming pool in the olympics ?
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What about Surinam.
What was the man name who became the first blackman to win gold inna swimming pool in the olympics ?
Anthony Nesty (who was born in Trinidad and migrated to Suriname early in his life) :beermug:
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What about Surinam.
What was the man name who became the first blackman to win gold inna swimming pool in the olympics ?
Anthony Nesty :beermug:
Who was born in T&T.
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What about Surinam.
What was the man name who became the first blackman to win gold inna swimming pool in the olympics ?
Anthony Nesty :beermug:
Who was born in T&T.
Boss thanks for the reminder, Tallman for the roots.
Obviously this award thing did not have much research and the criteria dubious to say the least.
What about Stephen Ames ?
What about the Jamaican heavy that got murdered ? Was it Berbick?
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
LOL. No way Cuba or DR can top any caribbean list of sporting personalities.
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
I somewhat agree with Cuba, but which DR baseball player do you think would dominate....not to be argumentative, just curious. ARod - never won anything, Sosa - Steroids. I think Puerto Rico would/should have a few baseball players and boxers included.
I get your point about the West Indies though.
Are you kidding?
Off the top of my head: Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez & David Ortiz....
It doesnt help much wne Baseball is not a sport that is played throughout the caribbean. Football, cricket, netball etc are played by most nations in the caribbean...baseball is for the 3 latin countries (Cuba, PR, DR)
Perhaps someone in T&T should come uop with their own list....and make it 90% T&T sportsmen. then everyone would be happy :)
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So, no Haitians? ;D
Seriously though, in a perfect world Cuba and maybe DR would top the list.
I somewhat agree with Cuba, but which DR baseball player do you think would dominate....not to be argumentative, just curious. ARod - never won anything, Sosa - Steroids. I think Puerto Rico would/should have a few baseball players and boxers included.
I get your point about the West Indies though.
Are you kidding?
Off the top of my head: Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez & David Ortiz....
It doesnt help much wne Baseball is not a sport that is played throughout the caribbean. Football, cricket, netball etc are played by most nations in the caribbean...baseball is for the 3 latin countries (Cuba, PR, DR)
Perhaps someone in T&T should come uop with their own list....and make it 90% T&T sportsmen. then everyone would be happy :)
You're being facetious and silly.
If you look at some of the sports personalities that men have asked about here you would realise that this award is a misnomer since some true caribbean greats have been overlooked and the criteria used is obviously specious to say the least
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The Award should be called the West Indian awards. It pertains to the English speaking Caribbean. Only the English speaking Caribbean plays cricket and netball. A true Caribbean award will have to be inclusive. That is how I see it.
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The Award should be called the West Indian awards. It pertains to the English speaking Caribbean. Only the English speaking Caribbean plays cricket and netball. A true Caribbean award will have to be inclusive. That is how I see it.
To tell you the truth I grew up in the caribbean and have traveled a lot through the northern part of the region mostly from Cuba to St-Lucia (half of a circle!) I had never seen anyone playing cricket or heard anyone talking about it. The sport is quite unknown in french-speaking and spanish-speaking caribbean. In contrast baseball is 'hated' in non-hispanic caribbean but at least everybody knows what it is.
Here in the US, the only person who 'talks' cricket with me is an Indian colleague from work. Of course he has already noticed that my vocabulary is limited to just those few words: West-indies and Lara! ;D (As soon as I get those words off my chest, the conversation is over!!!)
On a different note, I think playing dominoes is the most popular past-time thoughout the caribbean. The rules are different though from one island to another.
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If anything it might be more 'Beijing Bolt residue' than anything else - I don't feel slighted at all.