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Sports => Football => Topic started by: kicker on February 17, 2009, 06:20:50 PM
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Against Luton...
Luton beat Brigton on PKs to make it to the final of the Johnstone Paint Trophy... (is that their version of the league cup?)
They just showed the highlights- Birchy missed the final one from the spot to hand Luton the victory...
Not a good week of penalties for Trinis...
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Is no surprise there...he is not really a regular penalty taker.
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drop he from the team........................ NOW
ah tryin ah Arrow
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......drop he from the team........................ NOW......... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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......drop he from the team........................ NOW......... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
But allyuh would be suprise Dennis Lawrence does take some sweet PK for a tall man
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he probably got some pointers from stern
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All of that is from lack of preparation as a unit,enough individuals are against Edwards and Spann at right and left back,we should be looking down the road,let them get seasoned now otherwise we will be going down this very road for 2014
Cyd and Avery they served well but time marches on,by bringing them back our team just got so much older and judging from how man was sucking wind in the last 25 minutes of the El Salvador,it may have been just worse
It would be great to make it to South Africa but 2014 is not that far away,let the youths get some valuable experience at this level now,from which the Warriors will benefit for the 2014 campaign
Just my two pennies
Ratafari
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All of that is from lack of preparation as a unit,enough individuals are against Edwards and Spann at right and left back,we should be looking down the road,let them get seasoned now otherwise we will be going down this very road for 2014
Cyd and Avery they served well but time marches on,by bringing them back our team just got so much older and judging from how man was sucking wind in the last 25 minutes of the El Salvador,it may have been just worse
It would be great to make it to South Africa but 2014 is not that far away,let the youths get some valuable experience at this level now,from which the Warriors will benefit for the 2014 campaign
Just my two pennies
Ratafari
Aye boy don't say that on this forum,you mad or what!!!! :devil:
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All of that is from lack of preparation as a unit,enough individuals are against Edwards and Spann at right and left back,we should be looking down the road,let them get seasoned now otherwise we will be going down this very road for 2014
Cyd and Avery they served well but time marches on,by bringing them back our team just got so much older and judging from how man was sucking wind in the last 25 minutes of the El Salvador,it may have been just worse
It would be great to make it to South Africa but 2014 is not that far away,let the youths get some valuable experience at this level now,from which the Warriors will benefit for the 2014 campaign
Just my two pennies
Ratafari
:arguing: :waiting:
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Against Luton...
Luton beat Brigton on PKs to make it to the final of the Johnstone Paint Trophy... (is that their version of the league cup?)
They just showed the highlights- Birchy missed the final one from the spot to hand Luton the victory...
Not a good week of penalties for Trinis...
Where d facebook posse?
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Illusions only last for so long.....then reality steps in
Them lessons should have been learned from 2006 so for 2010 we would have overcome
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All of that is from lack of preparation as a unit,enough individuals are against Edwards and Spann at right and left back,we should be looking down the road,let them get seasoned now otherwise we will be going down this very road for 2014
Cyd and Avery they served well but time marches on,by bringing them back our team just got so much older and judging from how man was sucking wind in the last 25 minutes of the El Salvador,it may have been just worse
It would be great to make it to South Africa but 2014 is not that far away,let the youths get some valuable experience at this level now,from which the Warriors will benefit for the 2014 campaign
Just my two pennies
Ratafari
Stop talking crazy nah bredder! spann can't even get ah run out in a confederation team, that's like playing for carib peter borough and scrubing bench, but running out for the national team infront of better players.
aklie edwards needs to learn his trade either in italy or germany if he can,that fella ain't ready yet for this kinda competition, and he will cost us in the hex.
let meh tell yuh this , if cyd and avery was playing on the 11th and we was up 2-0 with 15 min left on the clock, there was no way we were going to lose.
man talking bout when dem yutes will get some experience? well.......didn't they get a bligh all yr for @ least most of the friendlies we played and plus the prelude to the degicel cup and the actual degicel cup it self?
no team in the world doh have time to bleed yutes, it's either yuh have it or yuh don't!
look @ pato , he had to wait till adriano bun before he get a bligh against italy. and pato real real forkin bad!!
so why aklie sweating over avery , and why they have to go all the way to england to pull out spann last minuite and we have cyd gray who is ah boss defender. and yes ! ah take back every thing i said bad about cyd and avery.
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that man infects everybody around him with his brand ah shit
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so if ah understanding this correctly, we should be giving de youths ah chance in de Hex to prepare dem for the next WC in 2014? yuh know what i was going and write ah setta thing about advantages and disadvantages, but ah realize dat eh me, i around to long to fall into that trap.
very simply that is the most senseless thing ah ever hear, me eh mean no disrespect to nobody eh, you could imagine me telling one ah my football friends from the US or Mexico or Brazil or Ghana or anywhere bout dat suggestion???
now about Me Mum, somehow ah know dat is Selsfish Stern's fault.
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btw JC, we didn't DRAW because of defensive blunders, we were scored on with 2 deadball free kicks, niether through any miss/bad tackles of either wing backs, I think both times the ball came down the middle....ok, carry on. ::)
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btw JC, we didn't DRAW because of defensive blunders, we were scored on with 2 deadball free kicks, niether through any miss/bad tackles of either wing backs, I think both times the ball came down the middle....ok, carry on. ::)
Maxg go back and watch the footage , the fella leave out spann who had his hand behind his back defending, then hislop step in and foul the man on the edge of the box. if that was cyd that fella wasn't getting by so easy.
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Jut Cool....Just Cool
Watch them highlights again
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Stop talking crazy nah bredder! spann can't even get ah run out in a confederation team, that's like playing for carib peter borough and scrubing bench
Your memory short mi brother,not too long ago we had 2 players who were unattached..Hyland and Daniel come with a different argument,that one soft...... :rotfl:
.do you recalllet meh tell yuh this , if cyd and avery was playing on the 11th and we was up 2-0 with 15 min left on the clock, there was no way we were going to lose....maybe we would be playing with 10 insted of 11...just maybe..... ???
man talking bout when dem yutes will get some experience? ......when JC just when
Well them two man could not make the training squad to Argentina
An illusion is no substitute for Reality
Rastafari
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He's not the first and won't be the last.....
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I watched the whole game, he set up the goal, he played as keen as mustard, get your facts right before you start laying out your unhelpful views you wanna be!
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In response to the title not the preceeding discussion; I ent see Birchall miss I see the goalie make a good save.
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In response to the title not the preceeding discussion; I ent see Birchall miss I see the goalie make a good save.
You're kidding if you really think it's not the same thing.
And you're also kidding if you think you have to defend Brichy. It was just an observation about Trinis unlucky with pks over the last week
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btw JC, we didn't DRAW because of defensive blunders, we were scored on with 2 deadball free kicks, niether through any miss/bad tackles of either wing backs, I think both times the ball came down the middle....ok, carry on. ::)
Maxg go back and watch the footage , the fella leave out spann who had his hand behind his back defending, then hislop step in and foul the man on the edge of the box. if that was cyd that fella wasn't getting by so easy.
I will review, yet I can't be so sure "that if it was blank_blank, that fella wouldn't get by"...I have seen everybody get run past, even from the most unlikely ppl...I will agree a good defender howevr, will limit these occurences and how it effects his team, but to put yuh head on block like that, is not recommended in football, that's why the game nice...btw You woulda ever think Platini, Baggio woulda ever miss penalty in WC, but they did..... was that why their teams lorse...Yes....were they any less than great players for it...No.... If the man run by Spann or maxg or JC whole night, and doh score, who mess up more, the man or we....doh make none ah we not good...Even the great "el Cyd" coulda have ah orf day, and if he wasn't selected, even with bias, chances are he was having more orf than on.....that being said, I wouldn' have selected Spann, based on 1. his lack of playing time recently,2. not seeing him regularly...but it could be possible that what was being seen, was not up to scratch.
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Against Luton...
Luton beat Brigton on PKs to make it to the final of the Johnstone Paint Trophy... (is that their version of the league cup?)
They just showed the highlights- Birchy missed the final one from the spot to hand Luton the victory...
Not a good week of penalties for Trinis...
Is Stern fault .....
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I watched the whole game, he set up the goal, he played as keen as mustard, get your facts right before you start laying out your unhelpful views you wanna be!
Whose facts aren't straight?
Unhelpful views? Where?
Who is a wanna be? A wanna be what?
All I said is that it was a tough week from the penalty spot for T&T players...Just in case you didn't know, Stern John missed a crucial penalty for us in WCQ about a week earlier....
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Against Luton...
Luton beat Brigton on PKs to make it to the final of the Johnstone Paint Trophy... (is that their version of the league cup?)
They just showed the highlights- Birchy missed the final one from the spot to hand Luton the victory...
Not a good week of penalties for Trinis...
Is Stern fault .....
Of course- always... That's why I didn't type it- it's just understood.... :-\ ;D
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btw JC, we didn't DRAW because of defensive blunders, we were scored on with 2 deadball free kicks, niether through any miss/bad tackles of either wing backs, I think both times the ball came down the middle....ok, carry on. ::)
Maxg go back and watch the footage , the fella leave out spann who had his hand behind his back defending, then hislop step in and foul the man on the edge of the box. if that was cyd that fella wasn't getting by so easy.
I will review, yet I can't be so sure "that if it was blank_blank, that fella wouldn't get by"...I have seen everybody get run past, even from the most unlikely ppl...I will agree a good defender howevr, will limit these occurences and how it effects his team, but to put yuh head on block like that, is not recommended in football, that's why the game nice...btw You woulda ever think Platini, Baggio woulda ever miss penalty in WC, but they did..... was that why their teams lorse...Yes....were they any less than great players for it...No.... If the man run by Spann or maxg or JC whole night, and doh score, who mess up more, the man or we....doh make none ah we not good...Even the great "el Cyd" coulda have ah orf day, and if he wasn't selected, even with bias, chances are he was having more orf than on.....that being said, I wouldn' have selected Spann, based on 1. his lack of playing time recently,2. not seeing him regularly...but it could be possible that what was being seen, was not up to scratch.
Excuses Excuses! that's why the caribbean and africa still in the condition it's in today , that's BC our ppl don't like to accept failure and responsibility for failure!
failure is not a such bad thing mind you, it's what you do after failing, like modification, that makes failure a necessary guest!
some of the world's greatest inventions became a reality due to countless attempts ending in failure, but after collective review and persistence, success was not long in coming.
Maxg , i believe in logic, forinstance, if an aircraft fuel capacity takes it 1000 miles on a full tank, and there's a better option ...say another craft of a different make has the same fuel capacity has better cargo space , just an all round better option, and takes you 1500 miles on the same tank.
as an airline owner you would opt for the latter, it's the logical thing to do. well it's only logical that i would want a natural defender over a make shift one.
it took a white dutch coach to make us believe in our selves as very good footballers, and another to show us up as jokers! and rightfully so, BC we want the glory without the pain and hard work, that's my ppl for yuh, beenhakker build ah nice house and the TTFF bun it down BC he didn't paint and furnish it fuh Dem.
breds if we don't go with the trenchmen in this campaign , then i'm afraid allyuh would have to cancell your reservations for SA, BC according to logic, those yutes who allyuh say should be dominant on the team , needs a lot of work.
another piece of logic for yuh , why not go with men who played on the biggest stage in football and knows all the little tricks of the trade, the ins and outs of football that them yutes are oblivious too.
but have the rookies in camp so they could learn ,BUT PUTTING THEM OUT THERE ON THE BIG STAGE IS MADNESS, it was proven in 07 in the gold cup, last yrs in the friendlies , and the biggest indication was the degicel in december! what more proof yuh want that they're just not ready for this. i'll take hyland and daniel, but the rest have to wait.
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it took a white dutch coach to make us believe in our selves as very good footballers, and another to show us up as jokers! and rightfully so, BC we want the glory without the pain and hard work, that's my ppl for uh, beenhakker build ah nice house and the TTFF bun it down BC he didn't paint and furnish it fuh Dem.
I like this. :beermug: ......
But I doh like this one so much, cause airlines flying smaller, more economical planes these days:
i believe in logic, forinstance, if an aircraft fuel capacity takes it 1000 miles on a full tank, and there's a better option ...say another craft of a different make has the same fuel capacity has better cargo space , just an all round better option, and takes you 1500 miles on the same tank.
as an airline owner you would opt for the latter, it's the logical thing to do. well it's only logical that i would want a natural defender over a make shift one.
........ kinda like driving a Prius instead of an Escalade.
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so JC, juss for clarification, I niether here or there on the selections, buh yuh saying it doh matter how Avery or Cyd playing now, they have to be better than the present selections, because they have previous experience.... even if they not on top of their game, yuh don't prefer ah youth whose best game, was not as good as when say Cyd was at the WC, in 2006....wha bout Dog & whitley, bring them too,- nah ah just going overboard, ah know yuh doh mean it so..- regardless of Cyd and Avery form now...and then for 2014, bring the youths them, by that time dey go be ready, because Latas et al, would have them prepped...If that is the case, as ah previously average last campaign fan of Cyd - when many referred to im as Wile man - I will admit, that Cyd at the top of his game, wasn't that great, Avery coverage was suspect, many times caught out of position...yet they were selected, played to the best of their ability, and did a pretty decent job, Lennon nearly eat Cyd alive, but alas he was already hurting, Avery was pelting blade at wind, and doh he did have man skipping, eventually he connect...now I don't want to go into too much more, for fear the fellas get the impression I did not like them or disappointed in their game, but truth be told they were out played, but it's their heart that saved us...we cyah go down that road again, we have to teach and encourage....the same failure you refer to not to fear, don't you back away from it, we know Cyd and Avery capable, but we need to face some measure of development, we cannot depend on Cyd, Avery, Latas, Yorke, Stern forever...you talk about preparation, but you don't want to prepare...Again, we did not lose, we did not win, true, but we were very unlucky not to have...Men does miss all kinda free kick easy...it is very rare any FreeKick specialist, could get 2 in his ideal spot and range, and he hit the both perfectly to save his team, man does choke, this man didn't...Doh blame the selections, if yuh want to crusade, give it to the selectors, buh yuh choosing to lash the man an dem, who most likely have to buss they inexperienced arse, to try to win one for we, by telling dem, dey not capable of doing it...I cyah see that as success, even if we win....yuh speak of we ppl, buh ah never see nobody else - country -waste down they own players as WE ppl do...they might prefer or bigup someone else, buh dey doh mess up whoever take the field as we do ours...buh we, nah...we does tell it like it is, buh cyah stand to take it same way..all right, we going on too much, but thanks for the chat all the same....Birchall, Stern miss a penalty, doh mean they can't take them...I miss one outta bout 17 in finals in my life time, I still would tell yuh I CAN kick them...if some ppl believe that make me ah mess hound, then many other players, coaches and opponents kept lying to me - to this day- for no reason.
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so JC, juss for clarification, I niether here or there on the selections, buh yuh saying it doh matter how Avery or Cyd playing now, they have to be better than the present selections, because they have previous experience.... even if they not on top of their game, yuh don't prefer ah youth whose best game, was not as good as when say Cyd was at the WC, in 2006....wha bout Dog & whitley, bring them too,- nah ah just going overboard, ah know yuh doh mean it so..- regardless of Cyd and Avery form now...and then for 2014, bring the youths them, by that time dey go be ready, because Latas et al, would have them prepped...If that is the case, as ah previously average last campaign fan of Cyd - when many referred to im as Wile man - I will admit, that Cyd at the top of his game, wasn't that great, Avery coverage was suspect, many times caught out of position...yet they were selected, played to the best of their ability, and did a pretty decent job, Lennon nearly eat Cyd alive, but alas he was already hurting, Avery was pelting blade at wind, and doh he did have man skipping, eventually he connect...now I don't want to go into too much more, for fear the fellas get the impression I did not like them or disappointed in their game, but truth be told they were out played, but it's their heart that saved us...we cyah go down that road again, we have to teach and encourage....the same failure you refer to not to fear, don't you back away from it, we know Cyd and Avery capable, but we need to face some measure of development, we cannot depend on Cyd, Avery, Latas, Yorke, Stern forever...you talk about preparation, but you don't want to prepare...Again, we did not lose, we did not win, true, but we were very unlucky not to have...Men does miss all kinda free kick easy...it is very rare any FreeKick specialist, could get 2 in his ideal spot and range, and he hit the both perfectly to save his team, man does choke, this man didn't...Doh blame the selections, if yuh want to crusade, give it to the selectors, buh yuh choosing to lash the man an dem, who most likely have to buss they inexperienced arse, to try to win one for we, by telling dem, dey not capable of doing it...I cyah see that as success, even if we win....yuh speak of we ppl, buh ah never see nobody else - country -waste down they own players as WE ppl do...they might prefer or bigup someone else, buh dey doh mess up whoever take the field as we do ours...buh we, nah...we does tell it like it is, buh cyah stand to take it same way..all right, we going on too much, but thanks for the chat all the same....Birchall, Stern miss a penalty, doh mean they can't take them...I miss one outta bout 17 in finals in my life time, I still would tell yuh I CAN kick them...if some ppl believe that make me ah mess hound, then many other players, coaches and opponents kept lying to me - to this day- for no reason.
Breds yuh all over the place when this is ah simple dicussion.
#1 max that coach we have is a clueless, so what he does should not be condoned! the man is totally out of it! what do you need to see that.
#2 the players who been playing of late are not the best options available. you talk about cyd and avery like they on old age pension, them men still have ah few yrs of defending left in them, as we all know , in football defenders have more longevity than any other position. just look @ juan, emerson , and roberto carlos.
#3 it's ah proven fact that aklie and spann are the weekest links in the chain, so that's why i want the two most experience defenders in those week positions.
#4 did you see cyd gray in the WC, the man held down all them jokers especially in the left back position, only lennon got the better of him and rightfully so , there are few defenders in the world who could match linx with arron lennon.
all in all , i could be wrong and you right , but i know one thing for sure, i've never seen a coach experiment as much as this turkey, and i have a strange feeling he's not done yet, that dr jekkyll minded fool.
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So you went an take ah plane with ah full tank ah gas, an didn't go nowhere...an I talk football an I "all over the place"..oookk !
#1. I probably need the same shades, you checking the scene with...cause the players still managed to play in Argentina, an go 2 up on EL Sal, irregardless of his ignorance...I not in a position to say wheter he know what he doing or not, but to say he doh know anything...I definately cyah say that.
#2 Goalies have more longevity than any other position. Cyd et al not old, yet my point is, they not presently at their best either, and even then, though that may have beeen better than the present crop, it is not now. I agree the best Team may not have been selected, but using Scotland as an eg. the best Team was not available.
#3 Cannot prove that, simply a matter of opinion. They may not be the best or strongest players, but not necessarily the weakest link. You had big respect for Beenie, would Latapy have been the weakest link had he been brought on earlier against England..who play the fella on the left, the falling down dribbler..forget he name...doh you could find ah post where I was saying play the man..Does that mean Beenie was clueless, because it didn't work out ?...matter of opinion.
#4 I agree, however, when was that again ? Did you see Andy Cole & Yorkie tear up the EPL, did you see them at Blackburn ? If the men at present not at their best, I will go with someone slightly less, and who will have more longevity over this campaign and future.
Not about who right or wrong, I not against you, I for You and all of T&t. I understand why you feel as you do, doh mean I agree with that road is where I wish we go...Look a travelling again yes...all over the place.. ;D
add: just mean everybody would take a different path to the same destination, in this case the WC... I would like to see us make it to another one...doubt we could make it to all
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Did Me Mum's penalty get saved, hit the post or bar.... did it go wide for sky high like stern....?
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Did Me Mum's penalty get saved, hit the post or bar.... did it go wide for sky high like stern....?
Saved- Keeper dove to his right (Birchie's left)....was a good save, but a comfortable height for the keeper.
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Is still Stern fault