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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Tallman on March 13, 2009, 05:13:43 AM
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In the defence of Aaron Maund.
By Arnott Maund.
The job of all responsible parents is to teach, guide and help their children through the process of making decisions, in childhood, that would keep them in good stead through adulthood. This is what training is all about. In our family, decisions are made on behalf of the young people, by the adults after considering their input. So it was very disconcerting to arrive in Trinidad to find our family’s name emblazoned across the Express Newspaper of Saturday, February 1, 2009 (I guess it was a slow sport news week) with an article expressing views that were only partly true.
For the past year we have had to make tough decisions with respect to Aaron’s future. Whether to play in this world-cup qualifier for T&T or the US, is only the latest in a long list. At this point in time, it is very important for Aaron’s future that a balance is maintained between the demands of football and his education . All actions taken so far are a reflection of our desire to have Aaron complete his schooling in the shortest possible time.
The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
It should also be taken into consideration that he is on scholarship at the University of Notre Dame, and all of this time off from school would certainly not be in the schools best interest as he is required to play Soccer for them. If he jeopardizes his scholarship, who is going to replace those funds so that he could continue his education next year? The TTFF? We are not wealthy people, and as such, need all the help we can get to secure a good education for our children.
So lets clear up some important points. After starting all three preliminary matches for Trinidad and Tobago at the 2007 FIFA Under-17 World cup in South Korea, there were no TTFF-initiated communications with our family, until December 2008, AFTER AARON HAD ALREADY BEEN INVITED TO THE FIRST US TRAINING CAMP. Previous to this, last summer, we called our previous contacts with the team and discovered there was new management and coaching for this particular group of guys. After contacting the new people involved, we tried to find ways to have the new coach take a look at some of Aaron’s games (even via the internet ) but to no avail. On the other hand the new US U-20 coach Tom Rongen , using his own initiative, called the Notre Dame coach and made arrangements to see him play and did so, obviously liking what he saw. Leading up to this sequence of events no information was shared with us by the management of the Trinidad Team, as to what was going on.
The impressions left by articles in the press, and posts on the various blogs, suggesting abuse of Trinidad football on our part, is grossly misleading. Because of the way things were handled in the 2007 World Cup, I, as a Trinidadian who loves his country, was placed in a position of having to “sell” the Trinidad football program to my own son and I could not bring myself to do it . There were too few advantages for me to point to, so the result is the circumstance we have today.
I personally give my son a lot of respect for having the strength, and confidence in his own abilities, to put himself in the precarious position of going through three or four camps to vie for a place in a new team, knowing quite well that it would probably be easier to stay with the previous group. He should be commended not denigrated, for his intestinal fortitude.
Finally, we would like express our thanks to the TTFF for allowing Aaron the opportunity to come to Trinidad, during the summer of 2007, to try-out, and get a chance to show what he could do on the field. It was a great experience for him and gave him a taste of what the International game is like at the highest level, for that we will be eternally grateful and we wish the Team all the best in the future.
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Let the cussing continue.
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Very well documented article...top of d line....
Good read Mr.Maund....at the end of the day..its whats in the best interest of the child and you did what is right for you and your family...All the best
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Very well documented article...top of d line....
Good read Mr.Maund....at the end of the day..its whats in the best interest of the child and you did what is right for you and your family...All the best
Nah he lie dey diss oui.
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Thank you Arnot....thats the way
all the best to Aron
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Thank you Arnot....thats the way
all the best to Aron
Well BM d man was goin through d prper channel u know gettin d info 2 d moderator but our daily dose of exercise is jumpin 2 conclusion. But me eh blieve him d yute diss we.
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Most of what he talk here is BS.
Plain and simple the US have more to offer than lil TT . If he was patriotic as he claim , no way he would let the boy play for US.
Anyhow we qualify for the U20 WC and going and buss the US tail tonight.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
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Very well documented article...top of d line....
Good read Mr.Maund....at the end of the day..its whats in the best interest of the child and you did what is right for you and your family...All the best
Nah he lie dey diss oui.
Trust me when ah tell yuh that article was only written based on the surprising and worthy performance by our T&T under 20's.
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Very well documented article...top of d line....
Good read Mr.Maund....at the end of the day..its whats in the best interest of the child and you did what is right for you and your family...All the best
Nah he lie dey diss oui.
Trust me when ah tell yuh that article was only written based on the surprising and worthy performance by our T&T under 20's.
Of course Saga he thought d team woulda fall flat witout he son. Well we prove him wrong we eh need him. He go regret it when dem fellas representin we in d Olympics in 2012 and d WC in 2014 and 2018.
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this was all I wanted...an explanation...if Maund is to become an international footballer at the senior level (which he is totally capable of doing) is situations similar to this he will encounter...doh talk bout club football
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this was all I wanted...an explanation...if Maund is to become an international footballer at the senior level (which he is totally capable of doing) is situations similar to this he will encounter...doh talk bout club football
No need for an explanation I sure u read Prescott article. He diss we he pops did not answer d messages left.
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In the defence of Aaron Maund.
...If he jeopardizes his scholarship, who is going to replace those funds so that he could continue his education next year? The TTFF? We are not wealthy people, and as such, need all the help we can get to secure a good education for our children. ...
excellent article. sound reasoning.
education 1st...football 2nd. all it take is one hard tackle for a football career to end. nobody could take away yuh education. notre dame is a big name and well-respected school. a degree from there is respected in many parts.
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Very well documented article...top of d line....
Good read Mr.Maund....at the end of the day..its whats in the best interest of the child and you did what is right for you and your family...All the best
Nah he lie dey diss oui.
Trust me when ah tell yuh that article was only written based on the surprising and worthy performance by our T&T under 20's.
Of course Saga he thought d team woulda fall flat witout he son. Well we prove him wrong we eh need him. He go regret it when dem fellas representin we in d Olympics in 2012 and d WC in 2014 and 2018.
Weary believe me it irks me to say this but it's a problem we have with most trini youths and parents that live in foreign countries,even the existing team that qualified, unfortunately some of them are on the fence not by choice but by design.
It's a curse that we're plagued with and I say this with great caution because not all are like that,yuh see some us parents have yet to free ourselves from that colonial way of thinking that america because of it's size and power is truly the answer even when the senior national team proved otherwise almost 4 years ago and made history by taking a small country like T&T of just over 1 million people to a world cup to some it was just a fluke.
I pity these people because unfortunately it filters down to their children.....
Let the criticism begin......
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I fully understand and I also can understand how unprofessional the TTFF does operate, as they did with Jloyd Samuel, they had the chance to cap him and didn't, they got serious ONLY when England call him up. If USA didn't call up Aaron Maund maybe T&T would not have bothered with him.
The only thing I vex about is....
If he father was so concern about Aaron's education. Why in the FIRST place he allowed Aaron to join T&T. Taking someones place who have worked they ass off trying to make de under 17 side, Aaron came out of no where, never even been heard of at the time and take a man's place on the team. All de time Aaron father wasn't thinking of T&T when they were going through the qualifying stage in de earlies, now they make it to the world cup and all of a sudden Aaron fall out from de sky.
I dont hate de youth. But he father basically use T&T as a stepping stone after his son got booted out of the US camp. Now by Aaron having WC experience under his belt only make his chances better for the USA to pick him, and so they did, if Aaron never played for T&T he would NOT have been on the US side today....
Double edge sword - Aaron father say, he wanted Aaron to play for USA because of his school (no problem). Then why was he trying to call the TTFF then ? he should have just done what he have to do and call that George.
Aaron replace a player on the T&T team, now what will happen to that player who so poor he had to borrow money to travel to training..... why DIDN"T Aaron say he will NOT playing for T&T in de first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the best, Aaron might have been a T&T senior player one day, but I cant say the same with the USA senior team as the competition is more...
I hope T&T BEAT USA today.... no support for Aaron. And at the same time, I dont WISH him BAD !!!! but no support from me.....
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If you born in America play for america, plain and simple, this is not a sell out thing the man born and grown in america.
TTFF need to stop looking for shortcut and develop TnT kids like how american develop american kids.
All that said we can show that we are doing a good job for development.
This guy is a fring player for the US, if we begging him to play for us
Mentally how can we go into the game thinking we are capable of winning.
We can beat the us with TnT kids good and proper.
Stop looking for imports
build your program from the ground up.
From Brichall come straight down it is nothing but a stop gap to hide deficeiencies.
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I fully understand and I also can understand how unprofessional the TTFF does operate, as they did with Jloyd Samuel, they had the chance to cap him and didn't, they got serious ONLY when England call him up. If USA didn't call up Aaron Maund maybe T&T would not have bothered with him.
The only thing I vex about is....
If he father was so concern about Aaron's education. Why in the FIRST place he allowed Aaron to join T&T. Taking someones place who have worked they ass off trying to make de under 17 side, Aaron came out of no where, never even been heard of at the time and take a man's place on the team. All de time Aaron father wasn't thinking of T&T when they were going through the qualifying stage in de earlies, now they make it to the world cup and all of a sudden Aaron fall out from de sky.
I dont hate de youth. But he father basically use T&T as a stepping stone after his son got booted out of the US camp. Now by Aaron having WC experience under his belt only make his chances better for the USA to pick him, and so they did, if Aaron never played for T&T he would NOT have been on the US side today....
Double edge sword - Aaron father say, he wanted Aaron to play for USA because of his school (no problem). Then why was he trying to call the TTFF then ? he should have just done what he have to do and call that George.
Aaron replace a player on the T&T team, now what will happen to that player who so poor he had to borrow money to travel to training..... why DIDN"T Aaron say he will NOT playing for T&T in de first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the best, Aaron might have been a T&T senior player one day, but I cant say the same with the USA senior team as the competition is more...
I hope T&T BEAT USA today.... no support for Aaron. And at the same time, I dont WISH him BAD !!!! but no support from me.....
Agreed plus he woulda have to take a year off of school to represent Trinidad........ BS . Lame excuse.Still all de best to de youth,I know his grandmother very well she own ATILOGO shoe store.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
My thoughts exactly, agree with everything you said. He must really think there ain't no sensible people in T&T. The man (Maund Father) is a ah Trini, he should know how things operate in T&T. The Trini way of doing things has never changed IMHO so, come on. He have to come better that that! As I said in a previous post on this issue, I am over it....the fella is an American, he was bound to join his country the moment they came calling. To spend all that time writing such a well presented piece it would have been better just to give a more realistic answer. As yuh said, just say my son prefered the US setup to T&T, it was less hassle. Talk done.
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free country.man wuh he son play fuh Merica.
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Thank god we live in a world where people have the right to choose their own destiny. Allya did really study HOW MANY Footballers have been DEKCUF by AJW over the years?...eh?...... anyone can give us a figure?
I Wish him well
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The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
Me eh familiar wit de intricacies of US college ball, but wouldn't Sean De Silva and Stephen Knox (granted he injured) have de same issues? As a matter of fact, our U-20 teams usually have a couple of players who are based in US colleges at de time.
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Thank god we live in a world where people have the right to choose their own destiny. Allya did really study HOW MANY Footballers have been DEKCUF by AJW over the years?...eh?...... anyone can give us a figure?
I Wish him well
Dat not import he diss oui. Maybe that is y he had 2 sell d program he probably heard bout JW?
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Leh mih clarify mih position before BS join in.
The man and his son make a choice and it ent nobody business why they decide what they decide......
until he come in here with this diatribe.
If he had stay quiet we wouldna be wasting time on this issue.
I for one had not even given them much thought when the subject was raised before.
He probably would not have made the squad anyway.
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In the defence of Aaron Maund.
...If he jeopardizes his scholarship, who is going to replace those funds so that he could continue his education next year? The TTFF? We are not wealthy people, and as such, need all the help we can get to secure a good education for our children. ...
excellent article. sound reasoning.
education 1st...football 2nd. all it take is one hard tackle for a football career to end. nobody could take away yuh education. notre dame is a big name and well-respected school. a degree from there is respected in many parts.
UWI free and Trinidad have better looking woman than Notre Dame..talk done....lol
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The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
Me eh familiar wit de intricacies of US college ball, but wouldn't Sean De Silva and Stephen Knox (granted he injured) have de same issues? As a matter of fact, our U-20 teams usually have a couple of players who are based in US colleges at de time.
ma feel we stupid...Darryl Roberts was sweating with Liberty and was making senior side...when last Messi touch down in Argentina..went to China with the u-23's.....the fact that he was playing football in the states and keeping fit would have merited a selection.Didn't have to relocate
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my kids much prefer the Canadian setup to T&T or Grenada for that matter, but I still trying to "sell" get them to represent, is I who wrong, meh lil guy(d mouth) even hit meh up with "I iza Trini mon" and start to sing Iwer "Trinidad, Trinidad"", to which he granny hit him with hush, wha you know bout Trini, he come back with "I iza Jammie, mon" and stat to sing "so Jah say"......bottom line, he doh feel he really from/belong here, as he is aware we from elsewhere, but for him- with all due respect, it's just his parents birth place...we still have to guide him in doing what's best for him, us, family, where he really want to be, and then where it should happen...In Maund case, the help was mutual, after which he was able to decide...it's one of the reasons why we live out here, to create opportunities for the family, although patriotic to an extent, one cannot suffer oneself because of mismanagement in ah country, when it comes to sport, or even in war...If the PM (JW) decide to blacklist England/USA/ Kuwait, who amongst you will say, I moving back home now, dem on we bad list, cause My prime Minister say so..
anyway, I will give mine the options(all), but for their safety, life, well-being, I will inform them like it is...and if it is bleak, ah won't be telling them, go still, it used to be nice...patriotic doh mean ignorant &/or chupid
the man give his country ah bligh, and we still waste him down...How come nobody did assasinate Stollmeyer dem character.....listen the man doh feel we stupid, we does just ACT so...this thread didn't need no setta negativity
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He is lying.. He got the phone calls and ducked them.
So they did not come calling? What so he wanted them to disrupt his education?
PUHLEEZE we in a thrid world country but some of us first world in our thinking! Doh try dat!
WQe have other college ballers...Mr Maund and I calling yuh mister while biting meh tongue...yuh full ah shit!
Yuh make de decision to look after yuh sons best interest..good for you, but why yuh f**king lying about it?
I personally give my son a lot of respect for having the strength, and confidence in his own abilities, to put himself in the precarious position of going through three or four camps to vie for a place in a new team, knowing quite well that it would probably be easier to stay with the previous group. He should be commended not denigrated, for his intestinal fortitude.
How it would have been easier again?
For the past year we have had to make tough decisions with respect to Aaron’s future. Whether to play in this world-cup qualifier for T&T or the US, is only the latest in a long list. At this point in time, it is very important for Aaron’s future that a balance is maintained between the demands of football and his education . All actions taken so far are a reflection of our desire to have Aaron complete his schooling in the shortest possible time.
The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
It should also be taken into consideration that he is on scholarship at the University of Notre Dame, and all of this time off from school would certainly not be in the schools best interest as he is required to play Soccer for them. If he jeopardizes his scholarship, who is going to replace those funds so that he could
The above quote shows that your decision was laready made the MOMENT the US came calling. Like yuh feel I fall of the last turnip truck in T&T? As a fellow trini yuh should know we doh grow turnips in T&T...we get them at Hi Lo!
So what is it? Yuh eh get contacted? Yuh did make de decision dat it too expensive and not in his best interest to play as allyuh eh rich and education came first?
Or becasue de TTFF lying...well giving half truths and yuh felt slighted...ie coach eh come to look at his play, etc.
My PERSONAL thoughts is dat once de US call yuh say bye bye T&T, I f**king betting and I is ah betting man...dat if he was not called he would have been on de T*T team....
anyway at the end of the day, yuh right..yuh is ah parent and yuh take into consideration what YOU felt was best for your son.....dat is decent parenting, no need to make excuses for doing your job!
Ok daddy?
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He is lying.. He got the phone calls and ducked them.
So they did not come calling? What so he wanted them to disrupt his education?
PUHLEEZE we in a thrid world country but some of us first world in our thinking! Doh try dat!
WQe have other college ballers...Mr Maund and I calling yuh mister while biting meh tongue...yuh full ah shit!
Yuh make de decision to look after yuh sons best interest..good for you, but why yuh f**king lying about it?
I personally give my son a lot of respect for having the strength, and confidence in his own abilities, to put himself in the precarious position of going through three or four camps to vie for a place in a new team, knowing quite well that it would probably be easier to stay with the previous group. He should be commended not denigrated, for his intestinal fortitude.
How it would have been easier again?
For the past year we have had to make tough decisions with respect to Aaron’s future. Whether to play in this world-cup qualifier for T&T or the US, is only the latest in a long list. At this point in time, it is very important for Aaron’s future that a balance is maintained between the demands of football and his education . All actions taken so far are a reflection of our desire to have Aaron complete his schooling in the shortest possible time.
The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
It should also be taken into consideration that he is on scholarship at the University of Notre Dame, and all of this time off from school would certainly not be in the schools best interest as he is required to play Soccer for them. If he jeopardizes his scholarship, who is going to replace those funds so that he could
The above quote shows that your decision was laready made the MOMENT the US came calling. Like yuh feel I fall of the last turnip truck in T&T? As a fellow trini yuh should know we doh grow turnips in T&T...we get them at Hi Lo!
So what is it? Yuh eh get contacted? Yuh did make de decision dat it too expensive and not in his best interest to play as allyuh eh rich and education came first?
Or becasue de TTFF lying...well giving half truths and yuh felt slighted...ie coach eh come to look at his play, etc.
My PERSONAL thoughts is dat once de US call yuh say bye bye T&T, I f**king betting and I is ah betting man...dat if he was not called he would have been on de T*T team....
anyway at the end of the day, yuh right..yuh is ah parent and yuh take into consideration what YOU felt was best for your son.....dat is decent parenting, no need to make excuses for doing your job!
Ok daddy?
Preach (tongue in cheek ) on brother. Too much hypocrisy.
The man write he stupidness like if somebody did care or somebody threaten him.
Maybe he know how powerfull Jack is and settling the waters before he come cap in hand in the future.
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I know the TTFF is messed up but If this kid really wanted to play for Trinidad he would have been on our national team regardless ...
Yes and Arimaman I think Isiah Ferguson was Born in 1991 so he can be on the next under 20 squad let him keep up the hard work ... :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:.
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Two sides to a story and while there might have been some posturing on the part of Maund and family, seems like the TTFF has once again been found lacking in its follow-through, continuous assessment, and tracking of its player pool. What's new here? Maybe if the TTFF had been more aggressive in stamping its claim of Maund being an integral part of the U20s setup, this would not have occured. Lets be honest: the TTFF is a one-man org, with a set of incompetent sycophants.
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I fully understand and I also can understand how unprofessional the TTFF does operate, as they did with Jloyd Samuel, they had the chance to cap him and didn't, they got serious ONLY when England call him up. If USA didn't call up Aaron Maund maybe T&T would not have bothered with him.
The only thing I vex about is....
If he father was so concern about Aaron's education. Why in the FIRST place he allowed Aaron to join T&T. Taking someones place who have worked they ass off trying to make de under 17 side, Aaron came out of no where, never even been heard of at the time and take a man's place on the team. All de time Aaron father wasn't thinking of T&T when they were going through the qualifying stage in de earlies, now they make it to the world cup and all of a sudden Aaron fall out from de sky.
I dont hate de youth. But he father basically use T&T as a stepping stone after his son got booted out of the US camp. Now by Aaron having WC experience under his belt only make his chances better for the USA to pick him, and so they did, if Aaron never played for T&T he would NOT have been on the US side today....
Double edge sword - Aaron father say, he wanted Aaron to play for USA because of his school (no problem). Then why was he trying to call the TTFF then ? he should have just done what he have to do and call that George.
Aaron replace a player on the T&T team, now what will happen to that player who so poor he had to borrow money to travel to training..... why DIDN"T Aaron say he will NOT playing for T&T in de first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the best, Aaron might have been a T&T senior player one day, but I cant say the same with the USA senior team as the competition is more...
I hope T&T BEAT USA today.... no support for Aaron. And at the same time, I dont WISH him BAD !!!! but no support from me.....
WELL SAID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The same man you stepped on going up is de same one you will meet coming down.
Aaron father should have thought about college before he accepted the position for his son to play for T&T in the first instands, because if Aaron could have made the US under 17 team we would have never know if Aaron was Trini.
And Sam is right, if T&T didn't cap the player at the under 17 world cup he would not have been on the current USA team.
We have learnt our lesson here. Pick our own players and stop looking to foreign born as they are NOT committed (98%) of them. We should have learnt from the Ian Cox and Bobby Zamora episodes.
We have to many players in T&T to search elsewhere. The TTFF needs to pay attention to this and build some program to help the youths in T&T develop as they did with our current under 20 team.
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We have learnt our lesson here. Pick our own players and stop looking to foreign born as they are NOT committed (98%) of them. We should have learnt from the Ian Cox and Bobby Zamora episodes.
Ian Cox???
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this is how he should of introduced himself yesterday, because it let to a 2 page cuss fest lol in the other thread
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Well Mr. Maund best of luck to your son and I wish him well in his future endeavours. Nothing wrong with looking after family and education is important.
But this is not club football...this is national pride.
There are only 1.3 of us and we are special.
Down here we may show our feelings in funny ways, cuss, bad talk and chastise the men who represent us. But at the end of the day...they are our heroes and their accomplishments are appreciated. All your son will simply be is a Statistic to the US national team and nothing more.
"I thinking while typing here"
If the communication with the TTFF came after your son get invited to the US camp...what is the big scene?
(ent it reach)
Ent he start the 3 WC games and is a squad member. Why you subject him to three training camp to make a squad when he already belonged to one?
Realise the TTFF cash strapped and the coach was running the side to play in a league here, he cyar come up notre dame and watch him. How you know he ent see the player on the internet?
Last thing bout communication...Your son was with a squad of 22 and officials in the Under 17 world cup.
He spend time with them fellas. They eat, sleep, train, shit, must be even run hoes together...You mean to say he ent have a cell phone number, forum id,email, facebook account, msn messenger, hi5...nuttin, to let one of them who in training give you the scoop or be able for one of the players to talk to the coach or man in charge and say Zoran...wha bout we boy Aaron. So none of them fellas coulda give you the cell of the manager or the coach or even another parent for you to hear wha going on?
Lastly you dont have to "sell" TT to nobody...if you have to do that, the buyer is not worthy of the purchase in the first place.
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We have learnt our lesson here. Pick our own players and stop looking to foreign born as they are NOT committed (98%) of them. We should have learnt from the Ian Cox and Bobby Zamora episodes.
Ian Cox???
Ah was just about to post the same thing. When Ian Cox diss T&T?
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The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
Me eh familiar wit de intricacies of US college ball, but wouldn't Sean De Silva and Stephen Knox (granted he injured) have de same issues? As a matter of fact, our U-20 teams usually have a couple of players who are based in US colleges at de time.
great point tallman. right now Sean de Silva spring semester going on but he in trinidad representing he country. im sure he probably worked something out where he can do summer classes to make up the credits so he can be eligible to play next fall because i cant see the University, who has invested scholarship money behind him, to allow him to freely go and play and hamper his chances of playing next fall. bottomline is an arrangement between player and school could have been arranged along with the TTFF, its something that transpires more often than not so that talk about a year off is old talk.
if Aron wanted to play for d US then that's his decision and all d best to him. if his father felt that the US team was the best fit for aron and the rest of the family, then nobody can disrespect a decision in that context. but to take the time to write an article trying to explain decisions made and reasoning behind it now make it seem like there was more going on than what he saying. bottomline u made your decision...stand by it...and dont come on the back end to defend it cause now u looking guilty! :beermug:
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Well said, I not vex with Aaron because at the end of the day he have to look out for his best interest and he believes playing for the US is best for him. We Trinis need to stop begging for players of Trini heritage to play for us and develop our won.
It have plenty people (foreign based) on this forum who delusional in their thinking that their children will automatically choose trini to represent because parents born and grow up there. Teaching your foreign born children about our culture is not enough for them to have a link to our country. Visiting trini for a week every year or other year will not create that link.
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Lastly you dont have to "sell" TT to nobody...if you have to do that, the buyer is not worthy of the purchase in the first place.
Well said Touches.....
And yes, Ian Cox did diss T&T the first time we offered him to play for T&T under St Clair and he also went AWOL after we lost 3-0 to Costa Rica in 2001.....
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Only person make any kinda sense in this thread is Maxg.
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Only person make any kinda sense in this thread is Sam.
I fully understand and I also can understand how unprofessional the TTFF does operate, as they did with Jloyd Samuel, they had the chance to cap him and didn't, they got serious ONLY when England call him up. If USA didn't call up Aaron Maund maybe T&T would not have bothered with him.
The only thing I vex about is....
If he father was so concern about Aaron's education. Why in the FIRST place he allowed Aaron to join T&T. Taking someones place who have worked they ass off trying to make de under 17 side, Aaron came out of no where, never even been heard of at the time and take a man's place on the team. All de time Aaron father wasn't thinking of T&T when they were going through the qualifying stage in de earlies, now they make it to the world cup and all of a sudden Aaron fall out from de sky.
I dont hate de youth. But he father basically use T&T as a stepping stone after his son got booted out of the US camp. Now by Aaron having WC experience under his belt only make his chances better for the USA to pick him, and so they did, if Aaron never played for T&T he would NOT have been on the US side today....
Double edge sword - Aaron father say, he wanted Aaron to play for USA because of his school (no problem). Then why was he trying to call the TTFF then ? he should have just done what he have to do and call that George.
Aaron replace a player on the T&T team, now what will happen to that player who so poor he had to borrow money to travel to training..... why DIDN"T Aaron say he will NOT playing for T&T in de first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the best, Aaron might have been a T&T senior player one day, but I cant say the same with the USA senior team as the competition is more...
I hope T&T BEAT USA today.... no support for Aaron. And at the same time, I dont WISH him BAD !!!! but no support from me.....
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I now reading the TT vs USA thread and understand partially why he write he nonsense.
The man deathly afraid somebody break he son foot.
Maund to begin with it ent going to be the first time somebody get they foot break in a football game , that does even happen in small goal on de block. But ah guess yuh cyar remember that since yuh is ah yankee.
Ah jus say that to stress yuh out, however ah really really damn vex that you will feel that one of OUR talented young footballers would single your son out for a break foot, just like your decision to use and abuse Trindad and Tobago without any sense of decency is your thinking that that would happen.
Your son easier get shot by some crazed white kid in your precious US college than that happening.
You make your decision stand by the consequences , which is ridicule from some of us but definitely not any harm to you or your son.
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Most of what he talk here is BS.
Plain and simple the US have more to offer than lil TT . If he was patriotic as he claim , no way he would let the boy play for US.
Anyhow we qualify for the U20 WC and going and buss the US tail tonight.
especially the U.S (SELLOUT)
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Lastly you dont have to "sell" TT to nobody...if you have to do that, the buyer is not worthy of the purchase in the first place.
Well said Touches.....
And yes, Ian Cox did diss T&T the first time we offered him to play for T&T under St Clair and he also went AWOL after we lost 3-0 to Costa Rica in 2001.....
Was it a diss then why did he end up playing for trinidad??? . in 2001 he and mauge left because of what was happening in the camp not no AWOL the ttff knew .... the same can be said of yorke and latapy back in 2001 also latapy was a no show in 1996 for a crucial game against USA .. and them is local born..
All the best to maund but i maintain had he really wanted to rep us he would not have joined the USA team he would not have considered that option .... ....
Again all the best to maund
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SPECIAL: Childhood Dreamers Team Up On U.S. U20
http://goal.com/en/news/66/united-states/2009/2/24/1126087/special-childhood-dreamers-team-up-on-us-u20
As kids, Sheanon Williams and Aaron Maund had dreams of playing together for the U.S. on the international level. That could be about to come true, but the timing with FIFA approval will be close. Goal.com special guest Frank Dell'Apa reports.
25 Feb 2009 04:50:58
By Frank Dell'Apa, Special to Goal.com
Since they were youngsters growing up in the Dorchester section of Boston, Aaron Maund and Sheanon Williams have hoped they would become teammates on the U.S. national team. Their wish came true this week as they were both named to the team for the FIFA U20 qualifiers in Trinidad & Tobago March 6-15.
The squad reported to Florida today for training, but Maund is awaiting an eligibility ruling from FIFA, since he performed for Trinidad & Tobago in the FIFA U17 finals in South Korea two years ago. The deadline for the roster to be finalized is March 4.
U.S. coach Thomas Rongen believes it is worth the wait for Maund, who he compares to former U.S. central defender Eddie Pope.
Maund and Williams, both born in the U.S., were recruited by Trinidad & Tobago at the U17 level. Maund's father, Arnott, and Williams' father, Stephano, moved from Trinidad & Tobago to Boston as youngsters, their sons growing up with the game in the Caribbean community and also with Dorchester Youth Soccer. Maund and Williams starred for the Greater Boston Bolts team which won the U.S. Youth Soccer Association U15 national title under coach Francis Okaroh, a defender for the Chicago Fire's MLS Cup-U.S. Open Cup double winner in 1998.
Maund had been involved in U.S. national team youth camps but, after being dropped from the program, took up the T&T offer. Maund, a sprinter on the track team in high school at Roxbury Latin, performed as an outside midfielder in the U17 finals but moved to central defender at the University of Notre Dame in his freshman season.
Rongen said Tuesday Maund has a "50-50" chance of being approved by FIFA before this tournament.
"The ball is with FIFA right now," Rongen said. "It's going to happen, there is not a problem with the application, or anything, but it's a matter of when FIFA's judge makes a decision. They will decide 100 percent in our favor and, obviously, we hope it happens before qualifying. We have alternates on the team who we feel comfortable with and they could clearly be included if they are needed. We have nine pros and 11 collegiate players and they should all have a future in the pro game."
The successful recruitment of Maund and Williams represent positive developments for the U.S., which lost out on New Jersey-born Giuseppe Rossi (Italy) and Neven Subotic (Serbia).
Before the U.S. camp, Rongen said Maund could draw comparisons to Pope, and confirmed that evaluation as the team gathered Tuesday.
"He's lanky, he has good feet for a big player, he reads the game well, he's a good athlete," Rongen said. "I think it is very important we try and select players who first and foremost want to represent this country and are proud of wearing the colors, and Aaron stands for all those things. When I first talked to him, without knowing he had played for T&T, I noticed that -- he feels he is 100 percent American and wants to represent this country. Nowadays, when countries are vying over rights for players, it's more important that, first of all they can play the game, but also that they want to represent their country and they are proud to do so."
Rongen said players have until their 21st birthday to make a decision on which country to represent. Maund turns 19 in September, Williams turns 19 in March.
Williams was among the leading scorers as a striker on U.S. youth teams, but was switched to right back two years ago. The change seems to have paid off, Williams' speed allowing him to keep up with opposing wingers and also launching him into the attack on outside. Williams played his final college match for the University of North Carolina in the NCAA title game loss and hopes to move to a European club next season. Williams has worked out with several Bundesliga clubs and had a formal tryout at Wolfsburg in January.
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SPECIAL: Childhood Dreamers Team Up On U.S. U20
http://goal.com/en/news/66/united-states/2009/2/24/1126087/special-childhood-dreamers-team-up-on-us-u20
As kids, Sheanon Williams and Aaron Maund had dreams of playing together for the U.S. on the international level. That could be about to come true, but the timing with FIFA approval will be close. Goal.com special guest Frank Dell'Apa reports.
25 Feb 2009 04:50:58
By Frank Dell'Apa, Special to Goal.com
Since they were youngsters growing up in the Dorchester section of Boston, Aaron Maund and Sheanon Williams have hoped they would become teammates on the U.S. national team. Their wish came true this week as they were both named to the team for the FIFA U20 qualifiers in Trinidad & Tobago March 6-15.
The squad reported to Florida today for training, but Maund is awaiting an eligibility ruling from FIFA, since he performed for Trinidad & Tobago in the FIFA U17 finals in South Korea two years ago. The deadline for the roster to be finalized is March 4.
U.S. coach Thomas Rongen believes it is worth the wait for Maund, who he compares to former U.S. central defender Eddie Pope.
Maund and Williams, both born in the U.S., were recruited by Trinidad & Tobago at the U17 level. Maund's father, Arnott, and Williams' father, Stephano, moved from Trinidad & Tobago to Boston as youngsters, their sons growing up with the game in the Caribbean community and also with Dorchester Youth Soccer. Maund and Williams starred for the Greater Boston Bolts team which won the U.S. Youth Soccer Association U15 national title under coach Francis Okaroh, a defender for the Chicago Fire's MLS Cup-U.S. Open Cup double winner in 1998.
Maund had been involved in U.S. national team youth camps but, after being dropped from the program, took up the T&T offer. Maund, a sprinter on the track team in high school at Roxbury Latin, performed as an outside midfielder in the U17 finals but moved to central defender at the University of Notre Dame in his freshman season.
Rongen said Tuesday Maund has a "50-50" chance of being approved by FIFA before this tournament.
"The ball is with FIFA right now," Rongen said. "It's going to happen, there is not a problem with the application, or anything, but it's a matter of when FIFA's judge makes a decision. They will decide 100 percent in our favor and, obviously, we hope it happens before qualifying. We have alternates on the team who we feel comfortable with and they could clearly be included if they are needed. We have nine pros and 11 collegiate players and they should all have a future in the pro game."
The successful recruitment of Maund and Williams represent positive developments for the U.S., which lost out on New Jersey-born Giuseppe Rossi (Italy) and Neven Subotic (Serbia).
Before the U.S. camp, Rongen said Maund could draw comparisons to Pope, and confirmed that evaluation as the team gathered Tuesday.
"He's lanky, he has good feet for a big player, he reads the game well, he's a good athlete," Rongen said. "I think it is very important we try and select players who first and foremost want to represent this country and are proud of wearing the colors, and Aaron stands for all those things. When I first talked to him, without knowing he had played for T&T, I noticed that -- he feels he is 100 percent American and wants to represent this country. Nowadays, when countries are vying over rights for players, it's more important that, first of all they can play the game, but also that they want to represent their country and they are proud to do so."
Rongen said players have until their 21st birthday to make a decision on which country to represent. Maund turns 19 in September, Williams turns 19 in March.
Williams was among the leading scorers as a striker on U.S. youth teams, but was switched to right back two years ago. The change seems to have paid off, Williams' speed allowing him to keep up with opposing wingers and also launching him into the attack on outside. Williams played his final college match for the University of North Carolina in the NCAA title game loss and hopes to move to a European club next season. Williams has worked out with several Bundesliga clubs and had a formal tryout at Wolfsburg in January.
This fella definitely playing where he should, he probably figured playing for TT was like playing for a back a the woods club.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Well said, I not vex with Aaron because at the end of the day he have to look out for his best interest and he believes playing for the US is best for him. We Trinis need to stop begging for players of Trini heritage to play for us and develop our won.
It have plenty people (foreign based) on this forum who delusional in their thinking that their children will automatically choose trini to represent because parents born and grow up there. Teaching your foreign born children about our culture is not enough for them to have a link to our country. Visiting trini for a week every year or other year will not create that link.
Just commenting on the highlighted part, research by Mary Waters of the Caribbean-American population in the tri-state area suggests that creating that link is highly likely, these individuals identify themselves as one of the 3 obvious categories: Caribbean, Caribbean-American, or American, if I recall correctly, the 1st group is about 20% of the sample size, FYI
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Well said, I not vex with Aaron because at the end of the day he have to look out for his best interest and he believes playing for the US is best for him. We Trinis need to stop begging for players of Trini heritage to play for us and develop our won.
It have plenty people (foreign based) on this forum who delusional in their thinking that their children will automatically choose trini to represent because parents born and grow up there. Teaching your foreign born children about our culture is not enough for them to have a link to our country. Visiting trini for a week every year or other year will not create that link.
Just commenting on the highlighted part, research by Mary Waters of the Caribbean-American population in the tri-state area suggests that creating that link is highly likely, these individuals identify themselves as one of the 3 obvious categories: Caribbean, Caribbean-American, or American, if I recall correctly, the 1st group is about 20% of the sample size, FYI
Tri State area?? The junior Maund grew up in Boston.What is your point?
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
Lick his a## brother , all over going brown.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Well said, I not vex with Aaron because at the end of the day he have to look out for his best interest and he believes playing for the US is best for him. We Trinis need to stop begging for players of Trini heritage to play for us and develop our won.
It have plenty people (foreign based) on this forum who delusional in their thinking that their children will automatically choose trini to represent because parents born and grow up there. Teaching your foreign born children about our culture is not enough for them to have a link to our country. Visiting trini for a week every year or other year will not create that link.
Just commenting on the highlighted part, research by Mary Waters of the Caribbean-American population in the tri-state area suggests that creating that link is highly likely, these individuals identify themselves as one of the 3 obvious categories: Caribbean, Caribbean-American, or American, if I recall correctly, the 1st group is about 20% of the sample size, FYI
Tri State area?? The junior Maund grew up in Boston.What is your point?
The pt. addresses the issue of folks born to Trinbagonian/Caribbean parentage not considering themselves Trinbagonia/Caribbean, from a study conducted on the largest demographic outside of the region, there are many who do if not wholly/partially
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
wha de fawk? JEALOUS?? you for real? LOL
How nobody ent lambasting Sheanon Williams?
People vex because of the perception that Maund use we for his own purposes and then abandon ship when he get a better offer... I think we as fans have a right to be vex...
But the Maund family have their right as well to see bout THEIR business... do allyuh ting but don't act all hurt and bring excuse because people vex...
If I was they I woulda boo him whole game... because I is ah fan and he is now the enemy... ah turncoat enemy to boot!
This kid acting like ah mercenary and if it was me I woulda teach him what loyalty mean...
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
wha de fawk? JEALOUS?? you for real? LOL
How nobody ent lambasting Sheanon Williams?
People vex because of the perception that Maund use we for his own purposes and then abandon ship when he get a better offer... I think we as fans have a right to be vex...
But the Maund family have their right as well to see bout THEIR business... do allyuh ting but don't act all hurt and bring excuse because people vex...
If I was they I woulda boo him whole game... because I is ah fan and he is now the enemy... ah turncoat enemy to boot!
This kid acting like ah mercenary and if it was me I woulda teach him what loyalty mean...
:salute: yuh talk like a soldier there
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Tri State area?? The junior Maund grew up in Boston.What is your point?
The pt. addresses the issue of folks born to Trinbagonian/Caribbean parentage not considering themselves Trinbagonia/Caribbean, from a study conducted on the largest demographic outside of the region, there are many who do if not wholly/partially
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I musbe extra sour this week... but if that man cyah see what you were commenting on and how its is relevant, you wasting yuh time responding... and i wasting plenty more time pointing that out!!
Serenity now!
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
So why no one saying anything bad about Sheanon Williams. We not Jealous of him too ?
Man you talking through your ass.
No body eh vex because Aaron playing for USA, but I vex because he used T&T in the process. Without T&T Aaron would have still been in the US pro 40 program which he was cut from before he played for T&T.
If your heart not here, dont come, simple as that.
And again, I dont hate de youth and I wish him all the best, but there is a better way to do things.
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I say again Maund grew up in BOSTON not in the TRI-STATE. Hence he would have been LESS impacted by his FATHERS Trinidadian Heritage.So if he considers himself American, we can't call him a sellout! As for your point Sir, it is null and void.
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I say again Maund grew up in BOSTON not in the TRI-STATE. Hence he would have been LESS impacted by his FATHERS Trinidadian Heritage.So if he considers himself American, we can't call him a sellout! As for your point Sir, it is null and void.
He is NOT a sellout, he is a traitor... he jump USA ship after they made him walk the plank and now he jump T&T ship back onto USA's, where next will he jump.
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
You have lost me? I hope you are just doing an Arrow style post..... So you are saying some of us are wrong for not being understanding about an individual that asked to play for us then dumped us when they believed a better option had come along. And you want to congratulate the youth for doing this ??? .....and you are a Trini?
I am not angry that the fella wants to play for America just disappointed he used us to get where he wanted to go. I fully understand why people are angry about this. It is certainly not about jealousy, its about love for your country and national pride.
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
So why no one saying anything bad about Sheanon Williams. We not Jealous of him too ?
Man you talking through your ass.
No body eh vex because Aaron playing for USA, but I vex because he used T&T in the process. Without T&T Aaron would have still been in the US pro 40 program which he was cut from before he played for T&T.
If your heart not here, dont come, simple as that.
And again, I dont hate de youth and I wish him all the best, but there is a better way to do things.
Sam
I feel you letting your emotions get the better of you here. I love Trinidad& Tobago just as much as you do. But where we differ is that I am able to take a step back and look at this situation for the young man's point of view.
Yes, he utilized T&T football, but T&T football use him too. What input did T&T football have in molding this youth while he was a fledging player? But yet we "used" him at the U17 World Cup to our benefit. At the end of the day we all have to do what is in our best interest.It is just what makes sense.
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Augi I disagree with your view that T&T football also used Maund.
Of course both parties benefit when a player plays for his country, but T&T did not dump him, he dumped T&T.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Missing High School classes is different from missing college classes though. So I dont think because he did it before is a reason for him to do it now.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Well said, I not vex with Aaron because at the end of the day he have to look out for his best interest and he believes playing for the US is best for him. We Trinis need to stop begging for players of Trini heritage to play for us and develop our won.
It have plenty people (foreign based) on this forum who delusional in their thinking that their children will automatically choose trini to represent because parents born and grow up there. Teaching your foreign born children about our culture is not enough for them to have a link to our country. Visiting trini for a week every year or other year will not create that link.
Just commenting on the highlighted part, research by Mary Waters of the Caribbean-American population in the tri-state area suggests that creating that link is highly likely, these individuals identify themselves as one of the 3 obvious categories: Caribbean, Caribbean-American, or American, if I recall correctly, the 1st group is about 20% of the sample size, FYI
going to school in Toronto..the majority of "Carribbean kids" I bounce up...they find out I from Trini..."I Trini too"..."I J.A"...even putting on the accent for uh... and they never touch the land yet..lol
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Augi I disagree with your view that T&T football also used Maund.
Of course both parties benefit when a player plays for his country, but T&T did not dump him, he dumped T&T.
I don't know how my country could ever "use" me to play in ah WORLD CUP... if so, dey could "use" me everyday and twice on sundays...
We shoulda "use" him to qualify and then drop he ass... thais what. Like how he "use" we as a stepping stone.. :devil:
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Would everyone still be mad if Maund woulda just say something before he joined the US team? you know, assure ya'll that he might be coming back to TT for football when he done with college?
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
So why no one saying anything bad about Sheanon Williams. We not Jealous of him too ?
Man you talking through your ass.
No body eh vex because Aaron playing for USA, but I vex because he used T&T in the process. Without T&T Aaron would have still been in the US pro 40 program which he was cut from before he played for T&T.
If your heart not here, dont come, simple as that.
And again, I dont hate de youth and I wish him all the best, but there is a better way to do things.
Sam
I feel you letting your emotions get the better of you here. I love Trinidad& Tobago just as much as you do. But where we differ is that I am able to take a step back and look at this situation for the young man's point of view.
Yes, he utilized T&T football, but T&T football use him too. What input did T&T football have in molding this youth while he was a fledging player? But yet we "used" him at the U17 World Cup to our benefit. At the end of the day we all have to do what is in our best interest.It is just what makes sense.
So let me get this straight, USE a next man to get where you going because you what de best for YOURSELF...
That sounding selfish.
What about de youth who lost his place to Aaron ? ent we have to turn to him now.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things.
Answer one thing. Whould Aaron be on the current USA team if he had never played for T&T. Heck, he couldn't even make the US top 40 youths.
Why did Aaron made this remark then...
READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maund still opts for T&T over the USA.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
United States-born National Under 17 player Aaron Maund says he would choose Trinidad and Tobago over the country of birth if he had to make that selection any time in the future.
And why? Not only because he’s now represented T&T at a FIFA Under 17 World Championship but because he prefers the feeling he experiences when wearing the red, white and black. In other words, he prefers the vibes of the “Soca Warriors”.
Maund, a 16-year old was in the final pool in the US team before being cut prior to the team’s final qualifying campaign in April. His father being Trinidadian allowed him to play for T&T while another player- Sheannon Williams, who was once attached to Joe Public FC went on to play for the US as a defender at the World Championship. Both Maund and Williams grew up playing in Dorchester. Both players were also part of the Greater Boston Bolts club which won a US National Under 16 title a couple years back.
“The results of the U17 World Cup could go far in determining the futures of its participants. Most of the starting players in this event are either with professional clubs or destined for them soon. The emergence of Maund and Williams also symbolizes the progress of local players, dozens of whom have forged professional careers from Major League Soccer to Eastern Europe,” the Boston Globe newspaper stated.
Maund meantime took everything he could with him from the Korea experience. He started all three matches against Ghana, Colombia and Germany and managed two of T&T’s better chances on goal against the Germans.
“It’s been a really good experience. Coming from the US meant I didn’t know a lot of the guys here at first. But the team welcomed me into the family and that helped the transition. My level of play has grown over the experience and that’s been the benefit of it,” Maund told TTFF Media. He added that he didn’t see any major differences between the T&T and US camps.
“When I first came here I felt the only difference was the accent. It’s a lot of the same… the same stuff in training, the guys are very similar. Some of the off the field things may be different but it’s really isn’t that big of a difference. I think everyone wants to succeed and work hard at trying to achieve that. We need to do more though.”
So which country would he choose tomorrow if the option to represent either country came up again.
“It’s easy! I would be with the Trinidad and Tobago team because I enjoy playing with this team… the coaching staff and all… it’s more of a family unit as opposed to the US where it’s like each player for himself which is the feeling I got. The (T&T team) staff cares about you and the players as well and that’s the kind of unit I want to be in. I want to go on trials possibly outside but next year is the Under 20s and I’ll be back for that definitely. I’m working towards playing for the Trinidad and Tobago Senior team in the future,” Maund concluded.
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Check your move.
nice article there Sam
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Why did Aaron made this remark then...
READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maund still opts for T&T over the USA.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
United States-born National Under 17 player Aaron Maund says he would choose Trinidad and Tobago over the country of birth if he had to make that selection any time in the future.
And why? Not only because he’s now represented T&T at a FIFA Under 17 World Championship but because he prefers the feeling he experiences when wearing the red, white and black. In other words, he prefers the vibes of the “Soca Warriors”.
Maund, a 16-year old was in the final pool in the US team before being cut prior to the team’s final qualifying campaign in April. His father being Trinidadian allowed him to play for T&T while another player- Sheannon Williams, who was once attached to Joe Public FC went on to play for the US as a defender at the World Championship. Both Maund and Williams grew up playing in Dorchester. Both players were also part of the Greater Boston Bolts club which won a US National Under 16 title a couple years back.
“The results of the U17 World Cup could go far in determining the futures of its participants. Most of the starting players in this event are either with professional clubs or destined for them soon. The emergence of Maund and Williams also symbolizes the progress of local players, dozens of whom have forged professional careers from Major League Soccer to Eastern Europe,” the Boston Globe newspaper stated.
Maund meantime took everything he could with him from the Korea experience. He started all three matches against Ghana, Colombia and Germany and managed two of T&T’s better chances on goal against the Germans.
“It’s been a really good experience. Coming from the US meant I didn’t know a lot of the guys here at first. But the team welcomed me into the family and that helped the transition. My level of play has grown over the experience and that’s been the benefit of it,” Maund told TTFF Media. He added that he didn’t see any major differences between the T&T and US camps.
“When I first came here I felt the only difference was the accent. It’s a lot of the same… the same stuff in training, the guys are very similar. Some of the off the field things may be different but it’s really isn’t that big of a difference. I think everyone wants to succeed and work hard at trying to achieve that. We need to do more though.”
So which country would he choose tomorrow if the option to represent either country came up again.
“It’s easy! I would be with the Trinidad and Tobago team because I enjoy playing with this team… the coaching staff and all… it’s more of a family unit as opposed to the US where it’s like each player for himself which is the feeling I got. The (T&T team) staff cares about you and the players as well and that’s the kind of unit I want to be in. I want to go on trials possibly outside but next year is the Under 20s and I’ll be back for that definitely. I’m working towards playing for the Trinidad and Tobago Senior team in the future,” Maund concluded.
Sam, the silver surfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work.
This article tell's us that Aaron bullshitted us from the begining.
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Football is passion and emotion and for the very few who are blessed enough to earn their livelyhood through this great sport it is also a job, a career.
My question to you is "wouldn't you consider and capitalize on every legitimate opportunity to further your CAREER thereby bettering yours and your family's future?" Off course you would.This is what the junior Maund did, plain and simple.
I am not saying you all shouldn't feel strong emotions about him choosing to play for the country of his birth, or that you shouldn't voice your opinion on his perceived slight of T&T football.But while doing all of this take some time out to see it from his perspective keeping in mind that he is , when u really think about it essentially AMERICAN (Therefore SAM by the very definition he can't be a TRAITOR to Trinidad).
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Mr. Maund I respect your son's decision,because at the end of the day it was just that , YOUR SONS DECISION, not yours. Yes, you had some input in terms of showing your son the benefits of representing the country of YOUR birth.Even though most of these reasons may have been emotional rather than logical but I applaud your effort.At the end of the day the young man has more of a sense of belonging to the United States than to Trinidad.
And if these ppl on this forum can't see that they are either closed minded or "HATERS".There is no need to belittle this young man .I my opinion they all just jealous.Jealous of the opportunities you have worked hard to provide for your family so that now your son can have such a choice. I just want to congratulate you on a job well done!
Lick his a## brother , all over going brown.
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Why did Aaron made this remark then...
READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maund still opts for T&T over the USA.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
United States-born National Under 17 player Aaron Maund says he would choose Trinidad and Tobago over the country of birth if he had to make that selection any time in the future.
And why? Not only because he’s now represented T&T at a FIFA Under 17 World Championship but because he prefers the feeling he experiences when wearing the red, white and black. In other words, he prefers the vibes of the “Soca Warriors”.
Maund, a 16-year old was in the final pool in the US team before being cut prior to the team’s final qualifying campaign in April. His father being Trinidadian allowed him to play for T&T while another player- Sheannon Williams, who was once attached to Joe Public FC went on to play for the US as a defender at the World Championship. Both Maund and Williams grew up playing in Dorchester. Both players were also part of the Greater Boston Bolts club which won a US National Under 16 title a couple years back.
“The results of the U17 World Cup could go far in determining the futures of its participants. Most of the starting players in this event are either with professional clubs or destined for them soon. The emergence of Maund and Williams also symbolizes the progress of local players, dozens of whom have forged professional careers from Major League Soccer to Eastern Europe,” the Boston Globe newspaper stated.
Maund meantime took everything he could with him from the Korea experience. He started all three matches against Ghana, Colombia and Germany and managed two of T&T’s better chances on goal against the Germans.
“It’s been a really good experience. Coming from the US meant I didn’t know a lot of the guys here at first. But the team welcomed me into the family and that helped the transition. My level of play has grown over the experience and that’s been the benefit of it,” Maund told TTFF Media. He added that he didn’t see any major differences between the T&T and US camps.
“When I first came here I felt the only difference was the accent. It’s a lot of the same… the same stuff in training, the guys are very similar. Some of the off the field things may be different but it’s really isn’t that big of a difference. I think everyone wants to succeed and work hard at trying to achieve that. We need to do more though.”
So which country would he choose tomorrow if the option to represent either country came up again.
“It’s easy! I would be with the Trinidad and Tobago team because I enjoy playing with this team… the coaching staff and all… it’s more of a family unit as opposed to the US where it’s like each player for himself which is the feeling I got. The (T&T team) staff cares about you and the players as well and that’s the kind of unit I want to be in. I want to go on trials possibly outside but next year is the Under 20s and I’ll be back for that definitely. I’m working towards playing for the Trinidad and Tobago Senior team in the future,” Maund concluded.
Sam, the silver surfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work.
This article tell's us that Aaron bullshitted us from the begining.
SAM what you trying to tell me is that a 16yr old (the age he was at the time of the article) has more sense of social decorum that you??
What did you expect him to say??? "I just using alyuh to get a sweat in the U-17 World Cup. As soon as I get a chance at a better opportunity I'm out of here?"
Come on man,stop trying to make people feel that you that naive, SAM.If you were truley that naive you would have believe that Beenhacker would have been the head coach of TnT for the rest of his life....Just my two cents
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Football is passion and emotion and for the very few who are blessed enough to earn their livelyhood through this great sport it is also a job, a career.
My question to you is "wouldn't you consider and capitalize on every legitimate opportunity to further your CAREER thereby bettering yours and your family's future?" Off course you would.This is what the junior Maund did, plain and simple.
I am not saying you all shouldn't feel strong emotions about him choosing to play for the country of his birth, or that you shouldn't voice your opinion on his perceived slight of T&T football.But while doing all of this take some time out to see it from his perspective keeping in mind that he is , when u really think about it essentially AMERICAN (Therefore SAM by the very definition he can't be a TRAITOR to Trinidad).
why the hell he played for the u-17 then,i guess he could not make his country of birth team,F@*K HE & HE DADDY
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Sam, the silver surfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work.
This article tell's us that Aaron bullshitted us from the begining.
Or the TTFF bullshitted after the fact.
Incredible given the mountain of evidence on this forum that men would still give the TTFF the benefit of any doubt in situations like this. TTFF does half-ass and screw around man who 100% committed to representing them, let alone some man who on de fence. People letting dey emotions get the better ah dem (FF I surprise you in dem thing)... this isn't a question of 'loyalty' or 'patriotism'... on the surface these fellas representing TnT, but in reality we all shouldn't lose sight o the fact that it's really the TTFF they're representing.
In other words, when you're interacting with the actual individuals running football in TnT, you lose sight of the national colors dancing in yuh head and "national pride" takes a backseat to the harsh reality that you're dealing with a bunch of incompetent, conniving, selfish, backstabbing vampires. Even if one genuinely wanted to represent TnT is not everybody will put up with Scamps and dem and they bullshit... not when other options present an 'easier' path. Man calling Maund mercenary... but who more mercenary (look at the past 40 yrs worth of evidence) than the TTFA/F.
Allyuh can't be real.
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Sam, the silver surfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work.
This article tell's us that Aaron bullshitted us from the begining.
Or the TTFF bullshitted after the fact.
Incredible given the mountain of evidence on this forum that men would still give the TTFF the benefit of any doubt in situations like this. TTFF does half-ass and screw around man who 100% committed to representing them, let alone some man who on de fence. People letting dey emotions get the better ah dem (FF I surprise you in dem thing)... this isn't a question of 'loyalty' or 'patriotism'... on the surface these fellas representing TnT, but in reality we all shouldn't lose sight o the fact that it's really the TTFF they're representing.
In other words, when you're interacting with the actual individuals running football in TnT, you lose sight of the national colors dancing in yuh head and "national pride" takes a backseat to the harsh reality that you're dealing with a bunch of incompetent, conniving, selfish, backstabbing vampires. Even if one genuinely wanted to represent TnT is not everybody will put up with Scamps and dem and they bullshit... not when other options present an 'easier' path. Man calling Maund mercenary... but who more mercenary (look at the past 40 yrs worth of evidence) than the TTFA/F.
Allyuh can't be real.
Well said Bake n Shark...better than I could have said it!
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Sam, the silver surfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good work.
This article tell's us that Aaron bullshitted us from the begining.
Or the TTFF bullshitted after the fact.
Incredible given the mountain of evidence on this forum that men would still give the TTFF the benefit of any doubt in situations like this. TTFF does half-ass and screw around man who 100% committed to representing them, let alone some man who on de fence. People letting dey emotions get the better ah dem (FF I surprise you in dem thing)... this isn't a question of 'loyalty' or 'patriotism'... on the surface these fellas representing TnT, but in reality we all shouldn't lose sight o the fact that it's really the TTFF they're representing.
In other words, when you're interacting with the actual individuals running football in TnT, you lose sight of the national colors dancing in yuh head and "national pride" takes a backseat to the harsh reality that you're dealing with a bunch of incompetent, conniving, selfish, backstabbing vampires. Even if one genuinely wanted to represent TnT is not everybody will put up with Scamps and dem and they bullshit... not when other options present an 'easier' path. Man calling Maund mercenary... but who more mercenary (look at the past 40 yrs worth of evidence) than the TTFA/F.
Allyuh can't be real.
No body here dislikes the TTFF more than me! I make that staement boldly and without reservation!
But the boy's father is full of shit. I have no problem with him choosing the USA, none that is his right and when he and his father evaluated the situation they decided that the USA was a more professional outfit and that his son ahd a better chance at the MLS, pro ball and playing in another world cup by repping the USA over T&T.
All he ahd to do was say so. He lie when he say he eh get no calls, he is disingenuous when he says its about education and money...his money anyway.
The truth is he got the calls, he stated that he was committed to T&T when in truth he was always hoping for a US call up, good for him he got it, he is an American and wants to play for them.
No need for his father to come here and lie..none, he got the f**king calls! The coach and manager called him, they are NOT the TTFF, they want the best team and the young man has some talent. I have someone close to me in the TTFF and they were present when several attempts were made to the player and his rep.
They got no response, prior to that they were in communication about the camp and the up coming tournament.
USA came a calling and they cast their lot with them..no big deal as far as I am concerned.
What is a big f**king deal is to come and besmirch the coach and management with his f**king lies.
Play yuh game, play for who yuh ant, do yuh do...doh try to f**k we up doh. Dais all.
And Bakes yuh talking pure shit, them players repping themselves first and foremost...contracts does come after good performances as do scholarships.
Yuh feel Maund daddy eh thinking about dat?
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Nah BnS nobody ent saying no...
Me ent giving TTFF no leeway at all... but I love meh country and I go put up with they crap
and I doh give dem wrong with what dey do... but dont come and make excuse cuz ppl vex!
I is ah fan and I going and boo them... cuz dey is de enemy and a turncoat enemy... nothing personal
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I should also add calls to hurt the young man are just plain stupid. from his father's tone it seems de youth wanted to play for we...read the father's letter again....!
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I say again Maund grew up in BOSTON not in the TRI-STATE. Hence he would have been LESS impacted by his FATHERS Trinidadian Heritage.So if he considers himself American, we can't call him a sellout! As for your point Sir, it is null and void.
Correct, my comment was NEVER about Junior Maund, re-read again, it was only addressing RM's comment re-1st generation Trinbagonians (born outside of TT) as a whole not considering themselves as such
PS: FF, ah wastin more time :rotfl: Anyway, yuh miss a good sweat last nite, will fill yuh in later
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All I have to say is doh worry alyuh self, the pedigree ain't gone. It have nuff youth's from our blood line on the rise to play the sport.
That is a hard choice to make knowing that if your child was raised in another county, to have them go represent your place of birth because of Patriotism. Some of us will be upset because we are true fans of the game and or patriotic to our Nation; like someone said earlier it can be a difficult choice for the family.
If that was my son, he was in no way representing the US! With that said, The father must be ah half breed Trinidadian mix with Jamaican, trying to spite we. :-X
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everybody know sey I doh care if a man pick USA over TNT because TNT realy doh care of there players but this yute use we and den jump di fence . he and he fadda could haul dey , allyuh know what!!!!!!!!!!! .
war
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It have nothing to do with the TTFF, you have to support your country dont matter what. We all here know how cunning the TTFF might be, but we still support T&T with all our hearts at the end of the day.
De bottom line, he USED us and that is why everyone here vex.
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I think de Forum Family being unnecessarily harsh on the decision made by the Maunds.
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We have learnt our lesson here. Pick our own players and stop looking to foreign born as they are NOT committed (98%) of them. We should have learnt from the Ian Cox and Bobby Zamora episodes.
Ian Cox???
Ah was just about to post the same thing. When Ian Cox diss T&T?
He must be talking about Jlloyd Samuel. ???
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I understand how man could be vex and even percieve what the father saying as bull shit eh but,
Does anyone know the father personally to understand how intelligent or unintelligent he may be. Does anyone know if he have the mental capacity to do the due dilligence necessary that will avoid conflicts with school and scolarship commitments? How about the youth man himself, anybody know him? Does anyone have credible evidence that TTFF (of all organizations) truly reached out to this former young warrior? I know I am in the minority (as it pertains to this issue here) but I eh giving TTFF no benefit of doubt on anything that not documented, sorry! If the yute didn't seize this opportunity is there a guarantee he would have made the cut for this current team? People need to remember this fella wanted to play for the US from the beginning. Yeah he was cut and came and played for the Warriors but now that the US come back looking for him, he fulfilling his dream. Despite having played for us before Aaron is an american born citizen. I feel like people lettin their emotions overule logic. The kid is where he wanted to be. If yuh go ah game and he playing opposite our team and yuh feel like booing do it cause he is the enemy on the field, but some of the thoughts being expressed here are beyond infantile. Most of allyuh (in my opinion) probably couldn't care less if this kid had played here allyuh jus want to cuss because he fadda take allyuh fuh ass (as allyuh see it).
Suppose (despite any BS with TTFF) this yute man still had some outside thoughts of playing for TnT as he still has time to make that decision, does anyone here think the level of negativity expressed here wouldn't affect that? Seriously, if Stern could cuss people because of the assness in here, we dont't think at this age and stage it might have even a bigger impact on this yute? If I is he father I showin him one ah dem Stern threads on here an sayin yuh see how nasty an stink dey could be when yuh eh in deh good books.
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everybody know sey I doh care if a man pick USA over TNT because TNT realy doh care of there players but this yute use we and den jump di fence . he and he fadda could haul dey , allyuh know what!!!!!!!!!!! .
war
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Who vex loss. In reading all of the posts, I asked myself the question if men really understand what it means to represent a Country (to sing and listen to that National Anthem)?? Too many men thinking of this as representing a school, a Club or State team?
If a man choose to represent his country of birth or his parents country that is their choice an we all will respect it (and down inside support de player of Trini parentage playing for a foreign country knowing he has some Trini in him). I personally cannot respect the decision when it is reversed and the decision is made to represent a country for personal reasons. It have a man being replaced who may not be as talented but definitely as commited to the National team. Daddy Maund making a mockery of his son representing T&T when it suits him. BS
Is we National Team we talking about!!!!! Although I would be the first to encourage my son to play for T&T (not that he would make any team), I realize that it would be more for my personal feelings towards my home land than any attachment he may have to T&T.
Blessings
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The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
Me eh familiar wit de intricacies of US college ball, but wouldn't Sean De Silva and Stephen Knox (granted he injured) have de same issues? As a matter of fact, our U-20 teams usually have a couple of players who are based in US colleges at de time.
That's the thing I did not agree with. He said it is not in the best interest of the college to let Maund go for periods of time to train and play for the National team. It is a plus for college program to highlight that they have players representing different countries on the International stage. It add to the level of talent at the school and encourages some of the better players to want to attend the college. It is a plus and in the interest of the program to allow him to play for the national team (which ever one).
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i really not seeing why ppls hating on this youth.
he get a call and make teh U17 side...make a name for himself ya could say and that must have helped him with getting a nice schol. to Notre Dame too( he have caps so that would always help!)
While up there the U.S. come knocking - who are definitely more organised and ya wont have to travel all the time(most probably paying ya own way--i doubt TTFF woulda do that one--not that they entitled to i think)
and after all this he have until 20 or 21 to decide where his allegiance lies anyway. So y hate??
Even if he go the US route in the end, all ya REALLY gonna blame him??
if US coaches real like him and want him in the senior team how all ya go be vex with him??
cuss out the TTFF for being so disorganised and unprofessional!!!
i of course would like him to come play for TT (if he is as good as it sounding of course!!....IS HE????)
but if not, he gonna experience better coaching and a nice setup anyway. and we know the US program (as much as we hate them) is on point so...
stop d hating ppls. Analyze d whole situation, not just that he should sweat for us
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So wha's the consensus ? We booing whenever he touch the ball or we not in that cause we want a FIFA fair play award?
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Wait til he turn 21 and then we will see his value to the USA. What's the fella name who play 6 minutes for the US and has never seen the team since?
I think what people upset about is that it looked like it was ah under the table deal. They use T&T to get the attention of the USSF and then jumped at the opportunity to play with the USA. I mean this is understandable but issue a statement nah and let we know what going on.
In a couple years I will be in this situation and I don't know what will happen. However, I know I will handle the situation differently.
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So wha's the consensus ? We booing whenever he touch the ball or we not in that cause we want a FIFA fair play award?
boo him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dear TT Under 20 team.
Please do the needful and cut USA arse this afternoon.
Thanks in advance,
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I have sit down and listen to many articles on this youngster switching allegiance , Some things really bother me , firstly I like to say I love to se how passionate some of our supporters on the forum as , my only hope is that they can show that patriotism when it counts , because a lot of these people who went on bashing the youngsters are not really patriotic supporters. So to hell with all those stupid comments about the boy switching allegiances.
Since when SELLOUT shaun fuentes became a reliable source of information as far back as i can remember he has always been biased towards the TTFF so how come the supportes of the forum all of a sudden have his back. When are we going to grow up and be a intelligent society.
I agree with Aaron for making the swithc so how do you guys know he is not using the USA to get experience and then after returning back to T&T setup. I being honest if i was ignored by the TTFF I would play for another country knowing fully well i can switch back for the country i love at senior level. So what you guys are saying is that you would rather give up on gaining experience to make you a better footballer.
So all the best to these young players play and grow , the choice is theirs , Can anyone remember when birchall complained about the ttff not staying in contact with him, for instance has the TTFF kept in contact with Andre Boucaud or monito them .
One thing i cant stand is hypocrites
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I have sit down and listen to many articles on this youngster switching allegiance , Some things really bother me , firstly I like to say I love to se how passionate some of our supporters on the forum as , my only hope is that they can show that patriotism when it counts , because a lot of these people who went on bashing the youngsters are not really patriotic supporters. So to hell with all those stupid comments about the boy switching allegiances.
Since when SELLOUT shaun fuentes became a reliable source of information as far back as i can remember he has always been biased towards the TTFF so how come the supportes of the forum all of a sudden have his back. When are we going to grow up and be a intelligent society.
I agree with Aaron for making the swithc so how do you guys know he is not using the USA to get experience and then after returning back to T&T setup. I being honest if i was ignored by the TTFF I would play for another country knowing fully well i can switch back for the country i love at senior level. So what you guys are saying is that you would rather give up on gaining experience to make you a better footballer.
So all the best to these young players play and grow , the choice is theirs , Can anyone remember when birchall complained about the ttff not staying in contact with him, for instance has the TTFF kept in contact with Andre Boucaud or monito them .
One thing i cant stand is hypocrites
brethren...i hope you ready for wat u about to get from the rest of the formunites!!! all i will say to u is be sure to do proper research on the topic before you make the kinda comments you made and start callin people hypocrites and so forth. i wish u all d best...LOL!! :beermug:
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Tallman make a good point.
Plenty a we players does play or did play college ball in de US. Many on scholarship. Dat never stop dem from representin de country.
Personally....Aaron Maund have de right to represent who he choose to represent. He use T&T U 17 in 2007 and he now usin USA U 20 in 2009. Nutting wrong with dat. Dat is his perogative and his option to do so. Both Federations usin him too so is not like is a one way street.
De only issue I have is de explanation dat College is de reason he didn't come back to play for Trini. First of all...yuh doh OWE nobody no explanation...but if yuh givin one, doh take we fuh fool. We might be third world Mr. Maund...but we eh DOTISH.
Come correck or doh come at all.
Best of luck to our T&T team and I hope we emerge victorious. We will always support our team. Good luck to Aaron Maund in whatever career choices he makes now and in the future.
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Tallman make a good point.
Plenty a we players does play or did play college ball in de US. Many on scholarship. Dat never stop dem from representin de country.
Personally....Aaron Maund have de right to represent who he choose to represent. He use T&T U 17 in 2007 and he now usin USA U 20 in 2009. Nutting wrong with dat. Dat is his perogative and his option to do so. Both Federations usin him too so is not like is a one way street.
De only issue I have is de explanation dat College is de reason he didn't come back to play for Trini. First of all...yuh doh OWE nobody no explanation...but if yuh givin one, doh take we fuh fool. We might be third world Mr. Maund...but we eh DOTISH.
Come correck or doh come at all.
Best of luck to our T&T team and I hope we emerge victorious. We will always support our team. Good luck to Aaron Maund in whatever career choices he makes now and in the future.
palos ah bless yuh post dey!!! same thing i been saying!! :beermug: :beermug:
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
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http://www.boston.com/sports/articles/2007/08/22/kicking_open_new_doors/?page=2
Kicking open new doors
Local duo's success helps pave way for New England soccer
Sheanon Williams's performance for the US in the FIFA Under 17 World Cup in South Korea may go far in determining his chances for a professional career. (PAT GREENHOUSE/GLOBE STAFF)
By Frank Dell'Apa, Globe Staff | August 22, 2007
While growing up in Dorchester, Aaron Maund and Sheanon Williams used to play soccer wherever they could find a game. They dreamed of growing up to become professional players and being selected for the US national team.
Maund and Williams have moved far beyond those cold winter days of kick-arounds in the Frank V. Thompson Middle School gym as they compete in the FIFA Under 17 World Cup through Sept. 9 in South Korea.
For a change, though, Maund and Williams are on opposing teams. Maund was cut by the US and is performing for Trinidad and Tobago, the country of his father's birth. Williams, who is also of Trinidadian descent, is starting at right back for the US after being converted from a striker position.
Both Maund and Williams played the entire game but their teams got off to unsuccessful starts Monday. The US lost to Tajikistan, 4-3, and next plays Tunisia; Trinidad & Tobago lost to Ghana, 4-1.
"We first met when we were 6 years old," Williams recalled. "To see [Maund] on the other side will be great. He looked at the situation after it didn't work out [with the US] and it's going to be a great experience for him to be with Trinidad. It's definitely weird, but I have had other friends switch countries. I could have done the same thing."
The results of the U17 World Cup could go far in determining the futures of its participants. Most of the starting players in this event are either with professional clubs or destined for them soon.
The emergence of Maund and Williams also symbolizes the progress of local players, dozens of whom have forged professional careers from Major League Soccer to Eastern Europe.
Williams and Braintree's Scott Caldwell are enrolled in the Bradenton Soccer Academy in Florida, a full-time residency program for prospective national teamers. Williams has committed to the University of North Carolina but will likely receive professional offers before ever playing a game for the school.
Revolution defender Michael Parkhurst followed a similar path, leaving Cranston, R.I., to enroll in Bradenton at age 14 and progressing to become MLS Rookie of the Year in 2005 and a US national team player this year.
Maund, 16, attends Roxbury Latin and is going down a road similar to the one Charlie Davies took from Manchester, N.H., to the Brooks School to Boston College to Hammarby IF in Sweden, making his US national team debut this year.
Professional players with New England ties have usually gone through the collegiate ranks but Maund and Williams might be opening the doors to the inner city for prospective national team players.
But if this is to become a trend, the process of player development might have to change.
The progress of Maund and Williams was facilitated by the Greater Boston Bolts club team, which won a national championship two years ago at the U16 level. The team was coached by former MLS defender Francis Okaroh, who is attempting to change the prevailing developmental program.
"I don't believe kids 10, 11, 12 years old get to understand the game when they have to win, win, win," said Okaroh, who is now working with the South Shore United Blazers and is an assistant coach at Boston University. "If they are thinking about winning all the time, they are not going to last. They are going to be burned out by the time they could be thinking about playing professionally.
"Once they hit 14 or, if you have a special group of 13s, you can do it. If they start too early with coaches emphasizing winning so much, they won't be ready at the next level. The bigger kids will play a lot and they end up being cheated, because when the other kids catch up they have lost their edge
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If we are not third world why are we casting judgement without trying to get the facts and let other people think for us . what about trying to get the facts
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
again soldier...research please!!! if we are to take your point and run with it....the amount of scholarship money given to a US citizen is far more less than what a non national of the US will need, due to the difference in the international fees that an international student has to pay. what does that have to do with his eligibility to play for trinidad and tobago...which is the foolish excuse we were given?
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We first met when we were 6 years old," Williams recalled. "To see [Maund] on the other side will be great. He looked at the situation after it didn't work out [with the US] and it's going to be a great experience for him to be with Trinidad. It's definitely weird, but I have had other friends switch countries. I could have done the same thing."
So he's ah pimp then. ??? ;D
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
What different scholarship? The US students make be given more federal and state schols along with institutional aid, and a little athletic grant, as the majority share of athletic grant will be reserved for international student-athlete as they will not qualify for other grant in aid.
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Considering this youth's football pedigree and dat he is recognized nationally in the U.S., getting a football schol at many institutions would not be a problem whatsoever. So there goes the poor Mother and Father Theory. Maund Father for certain eh writing like no poor me one. Mr. Maund trying and pull dat barefeet, fry bake and lime juice for lunch primary school story dat Jack Warner does give we. Dem men talking like spending a year in T&T is like going to Golden Grove. Mr. Maund would be better off saying de U.S. have a better set up, more money and "proper administrators"...talk done. We could read between de lines and accept dat. But doh take we for fool. Dis is Dave Jenney Award Material. >:(
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Considering this youth's football pedigree and dat he is recognized nationally in the U.S., getting a football schol at many institutions would not be a problem whatsoever. So there goes the poor Mother and Father Theory. Maund Father for certain eh writing like no por me one. Mr. Maund trying and pull dat barefeet, fry bake and lime juice for lunch primary school story dat Jack Warner does give we. Dem men talking like spending a year in T&T is like going to Golden Grove. Mr. Maund would be better off saying de U.S. have a better set up, more money and "proper administrators"...talk done. We could read between de lines and accept dat. But doh take we for fool. Dis is Dave Jenney Award Material. >:(
excellent post, yeah bredda ah went ahead and bold de whole damn thing man!
oh and with all dis baccahnal bout Maund and he father on two separate threads, i did forget that how he come to play wid we is AFTER he get drop by de US, i really did forget that yes.....does that make ah difference though?
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Aaron Maund Selected To U.S. Under-20 Squad
Irish freshman to compete with team at the CONCACAF Championships this spring.
Jan. 21, 2009
NOTRE DAME, Ind. - Aaron Maund (Dorchester, Mass./The Roxbury Latin School), a freshman central defender on the Notre Dame men's soccer team, recently has been selected to the United States Under-20 national team that will compete at the CONCACAF Championships that will be held this spring.
The U-20s will face Jamaica, El Salvador and either Honduras or St. Vincent & the Grenadines in Bacolet, Tobago. The U-20 Championship, which will be held from March 6-15, will qualify four regional teams to the 2009 FIFA Under-20 World Cup.
The tournaments will mark the first time since 1996 that the events will be held as a regional championship in a single venue. The U.S. Under-20s topped Group A in Panama to book their place in Canada 2007.
Under-20 head coach Thomas Rongen and his squad will be based in Dwight York Stadium in Bacolet, Tobago for their first three group games, with the final schedule still to be determined.
The U.S. will face the winner of a two-leg playoff series between Honduras and St. Vincent & the Grenadines, who will be battling for the eighth and final place in the regional tournament. El Salvador won the Central American tournament to earn their place in Trinidad & Tobago while Jamaica won its group in Caribbean qualifying. The U.S., Canada and Mexico qualified for the final round automatically, along with hosts Trinidad & Tobago.
Should the U.S. advance out of Group A, they will qualify for the U-20 World Cup as one of the region's top-four teams. They also will travel to Marvin Lee Stadium in Macoya, Trinidad for the semifinals and either the third-place game or final, which will decide the CONCACAF crown.
The FIFA U-20 World Cup will be held in Egypt from Sept. 25 - Oct. 17, 2009. The U.S., which will be looking to qualify for their record seventh-straight FIFA Under-20 World Cup, finished seventh at their last U-20 World Cup run in 2007 after advancing to the quarterfinals.
Maund, who is listed as a midfielder on the U.S. roster, started all 21 games in the central defense and played every possible minute on the field during his rookie campaign with the Fighting Irish in 2008. He notched one assist and helped Notre Dame post a 12-7-2 record and capture the BIG EAST Blue Division crown along with garnering the No. 12 seed for the NCAA Championship. Maund was named the BIG EAST rookie of the week on Sept. 22.
Playing internationally will be nothing new for Maund. He started all three games with the Trinidad & Tobago national team at the 2007 Under-17 World Cup in South Korea. He was able to play with Trinidad & Tobago because his father is a native of the country. Maund also has been in the United States U-14, U-15 and U-17 national player pools.
You could tell me it's not a plus for the program, playing on a National team.
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The only way that Aaron can continue with school and play football at this level is to play for the US Under-20 Men’s National Team. We exhausted all other possibilities ; a waiver from the NCAA (to preserve his eligibility to play for his University); time off from school (to play for Trinidad would mean a whole year living here , remember he is an American kid ).
Me eh familiar wit de intricacies of US college ball, but wouldn't Sean De Silva and Stephen Knox (granted he injured) have de same issues? As a matter of fact, our U-20 teams usually have a couple of players who are based in US colleges at de time.
sean has to overs school for this semester to compete...but that is part and parcel of being an internatioanl footballer.
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I agree with him to some degree. I agree that it would be difficult to go back and forth especially with Aaron's committment to Notre Dame. However, he did it before and if he really wanted to do it he could do it again. Isiah Ferguson didn't make the team and he and his father was fully committed to the same process as Aaron Maund.
I not against the youth man for playing for the US but all the father just doing they is giving we excuses. Imagine the father have to "sell" the T&T program to his son...so basically the question I ask is how did T&T know about Aaron in the first place? Who initiated the initial contact going back to the U17s? Now I know the TTFF eh the most organized but come on sir, we eh dotish. Just say he preferred to play for the US and move on...no need to defend your tactics.
All the best to Aaron and to T&T....
Missing High School classes is different from missing college classes though. So I dont think because he did it before is a reason for him to do it now.
Agreed. But he not missing classes at Notre Dame now? Yuh doh think the US players miss more classes than our potential players based on the amount of preparation time they need? Where does the US practice, certainly not in Indiana where ND is based.....
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Maund still opts for T&T over the USA.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
United States-born National Under 17 player Aaron Maund says he would choose Trinidad and Tobago over the country of birth if he had to make that selection any time in the future.
And why? Not only because he’s now represented T&T at a FIFA Under 17 World Championship but because he prefers the feeling he experiences when wearing the red, white and black. In other words, he prefers the vibes of the “Soca Warriors”.
Maund, a 16-year old was in the final pool in the US team before being cut prior to the team’s final qualifying campaign in April. His father being Trinidadian allowed him to play for T&T while another player- Sheannon Williams, who was once attached to Joe Public FC went on to play for the US as a defender at the World Championship. Both Maund and Williams grew up playing in Dorchester. Both players were also part of the Greater Boston Bolts club which won a US National Under 16 title a couple years back.
“The results of the U17 World Cup could go far in determining the futures of its participants. Most of the starting players in this event are either with professional clubs or destined for them soon. The emergence of Maund and Williams also symbolizes the progress of local players, dozens of whom have forged professional careers from Major League Soccer to Eastern Europe,” the Boston Globe newspaper stated.
Maund meantime took everything he could with him from the Korea experience. He started all three matches against Ghana, Colombia and Germany and managed two of T&T’s better chances on goal against the Germans.
“It’s been a really good experience. Coming from the US meant I didn’t know a lot of the guys here at first. But the team welcomed me into the family and that helped the transition. My level of play has grown over the experience and that’s been the benefit of it,” Maund told TTFF Media. He added that he didn’t see any major differences between the T&T and US camps.
“When I first came here I felt the only difference was the accent. It’s a lot of the same… the same stuff in training, the guys are very similar. Some of the off the field things may be different but it’s really isn’t that big of a difference. I think everyone wants to succeed and work hard at trying to achieve that. We need to do more though.”
So which country would he choose tomorrow if the option to represent either country came up again.
“It’s easy! I would be with the Trinidad and Tobago team because I enjoy playing with this team… the coaching staff and all… it’s more of a family unit as opposed to the US where it’s like each player for himself which is the feeling I got. The (T&T team) staff cares about you and the players as well and that’s the kind of unit I want to be in. I want to go on trials possibly outside but next year is the Under 20s and I’ll be back for that definitely. I’m working towards playing for the Trinidad and Tobago Senior team in the future,” Maund concluded.
Hhmmmmm.....
The father should have just come out and say something straight up and not use college as an excuse. Every player in this current tournament missing school right now.
But say what, it's his decission and his son, so he did what was best for him. Hope Aaron makes the US senior team one day because he surely would have had a better chance to go further with T&T because of the depth pool (who knows).
You cant become rich playing for your country, but the recognation would be great as you stand a better chance of being spotted by some club.
Saw Aaron play many times 2 years ago, we defiaitely have better more skillful players at present, but Aaron have a determination in him I really liked. He was needed when he played for T&T under 17 team, not sure how he has developed now.
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
What different scholarship? The US students make be given more federal and state schols along with institutional aid, and a little athletic grant, as the majority share of athletic grant will be reserved for international student-athlete as they will not qualify for other grant in aid.
100% correct Elan.
As US Citizens/ Residents, you are entitled to apply and accept LOANS as part of their financial aid package. Most Basketball players receive full scholarships, but in other sports with deeper rosters or those that do not bring in as much/ any money as the main sports, players only receive partial scholarships - and it is up to them and their parents to fill the gap in cost. I know many football players from my alma mater who have loans to cover everything from meal plans, to residency to tuition.
International students have to maintain their GPA and fulfill the other obligations stated in their scholarships.
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.... Since when SELLOUT shaun fuentes became a reliable source of information as far back as i can remember he has always been biased towards the TTFF .....
erm, the man is an employee of the TTFF.
Can that be considered "biased" or doing his job?
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disgraceful and pathetic, since money mean so much to dem, let dem go, no mercy on him when him and his other 3 trini traitors step on the field, tt should rest some licks on dem 2nite :beermug:
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eh? say again ??? wha wha wha ? :o eh?
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I think we just step over the line.......can we delete this.
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That is a silly statement!! They have made their decision now lets wish them the best and move on. I will always be interested in Aron's future as a player. I wish him all the best. This badmindedness is really unbecoming of Trinbagonians. Lets make them regret their decision by beating them on the field of play only. Stop it people. We are better than that.
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Lol.. yea that is a bit much. Even if he did, that has nothin to do with the situation right now. But I am truly feelin bad for Maund. I mean, while I understand that we feelin slighted, but Im kind of a optomistic dude and think that maybe he wasn't trying to. Once he 21+ and he still in US uni, then I'll definitely think he slighted us, but until then,I cant really say he turn his back on TT. I thought he did initially, but I dunno. I think we shouldn't waste energy on bein vex wit him. I mean, def. don't let the U.S. beat us, but I dont think he deserves all this hate at the moment.
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Cyah believe it have some men here who talk bout Lasana Liburd's comments and the effects on de u-20 youths and now dealing with another youth in this kinda way. Yes, it was dealt with in a somewhat cheesy way, the father has some good points but come across like he lying, and yes we forumites love Trini. Still, why we talking bout loyalty in this case? We knew beforehand that this youth get drop from USA and then start dealing with Trinidad. We accept him because he coulda give we a lil help out, knowing full well we were 2nd choice. Which one of we believed he was playing for Trini outta love for de country alone? All of a sudden we cussing de man for what we shoulda known was a possibility in de first place. I kinda disappointed too cause ah actually know de man family a lil bit, but it doh seem right for man to be facking up de youth man to this extent and talking bout loyalty when plenty man on here does be talking bout de supposedly loyal men like Akile Edwards and Bleeder like if dey is dawg. Loyalty to who? TTFF? Controversial? When de same players sucking salt who does be looking out for dem men? Let de youth do he thing and let we move on nah people. Mash dem up tonight doh, not he foot, but dey nets please
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
there is not any difference between the scholarships foreign students athletes receive and those that US citizens receive. Scholarships are issued either full or partial. Now full scholarships will include the direct cost of attendance. Tuition, room and board plus fees. So any athlete who does not have tuition, room and board and fees paid for is receiving a partial scholarship. The decision on what type of scholarship full or partial an athlete receives is solely that of the coach and is based on their budget. What some coaches do is supplement their budget by having athletes apply for scholarships and aid outside of their dept and it is there where the requirements may stipulate that the applicant be a US citizen.
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His scolarship will be different from our footballers because he is a US citizen also ,Have you seen his scolarship, then why think it is crap, have you tried calling the university officials to get thier side. Do you know foreign athletes get a different scholarship to a US athlete.
there is not any difference between the scholarships foreign students athletes receive and those that US citizens receive. Scholarships are issued either full or partial. Now full scholarships will include the direct cost of attendance. Tuition, room and board plus fees. So any athlete who does not have tuition, room and board and fees paid for is receiving a partial scholarship. The decision on what type of scholarship full or partial an athlete receives is solely that of the coach and is based on their budget. What some coaches do is supplement their budget by having athletes apply for scholarships and aid outside of their dept and it is there where the requirements may stipulate that the applicant be a US citizen.
From what i see, the scholarships tend to be more restrictive for foreign students
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I say again Maund grew up in BOSTON not in the TRI-STATE. Hence he would have been LESS impacted by his FATHERS Trinidadian Heritage.So if he considers himself American, we can't call him a sellout! As for your point Sir, it is null and void.
He is NOT a sellout, he is a traitor... he jump USA ship after they made him walk the plank and now he jump T&T ship back onto USA's, where next will he jump.
So he's the worse kind then,a "double agent"
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From what i see, the scholarships tend to be more restrictive for foreign students
Scholarships are scholarships... the difference is that for those with only a 'partial' scholarship they have to find additional funds to supplement the costs. For a non-American, the ability to get those additional funds will be a lot more limited because you can't work, you can't borrow and you can't get grants.
In Maund's case, IF as his father said he'd have to miss up to a year of school... then I find it perfectly possible that despite the positive PR, a coach with limited resources may want to allocate that scholarship to another player. As we've all said, Maund ent no superstar so why would the coach tie up schol money for a year on a player not contributing?
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let the boy finish up he schooling...gain some experience with the USA u-20's and beyond (hopefully not hitting the senior level) and yuh might never know he might come back to T&T at the senior level. i mean look at the populations between USA and T&T....big difference right? he has more competition in the US. he obviously has a better chance with T&T. i'm sure that he'll be playing for we at the senior level.
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let the boy finish up he schooling...gain some experience with the USA u-20's and beyond (hopefully not hitting the senior level) and yuh might never know he might come back to T&T at the senior level. i mean look at the populations between USA and T&T....big difference right? he has more competition in the US. he obviously has a better chance with T&T. i'm sure that he'll be playing for we at the senior level.
WoW slap meh and then kiss meh later.....
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The big disappointment here is that he gave an explanation. His son is an American and should play for his country.
As patriotic as I am, I would find it very difficult to ask any of my US born children to commit to playing for T&T simply because of the BS that takes place at home.
Also, of all the players that have been part of our national youth teams who have gone on the US colleges how many of them have represented T&T during their college years? Most have been left out because of as they say "out of sight, out of mind".
The kid played for T&T during HS, but it's different in college especially at schools like ND, these coaches don't want their players leaving during season, this is not some small Div 1 school. From all indications he would have had to be in T&T showcasing in the Super League. He made the best decision, and I wish him all the best, but ah hope we beat them this weekend.
Also, all yuh really feel Birchall would have selected T&T if he was called to the English senior team?
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The big disappointment here is that he gave an explanation. His son is an American and should play for his country.
As patriotic as I am, I would find it very difficult to ask any of my US born children to commit to playing for T&T simply because of the BS that takes place at home.
Also, of all the players that have been part of our national youth teams who have gone on the US colleges how many of them have represented T&T during their college years? Most have been left out because of as they say "out of sight, out of mind".
The kid played for T&T during HS, but it's different in college especially at schools like ND, these coaches don't want their players leaving during season, this is not some small Div 1 school. From all indications he would have had to be in T&T showcasing in the Super League. He made the best decision, and I wish him all the best, but ah hope we beat them this weekend.
Also, all yuh really feel Birchall would have selected T&T if he was called to the English senior team?
apples and oranges Birchall was approached by us and has demonstrated his commitment. He also was NEVER in and England set up and summarily dismissed and came running to us. I cannot see how and why he would have been required to come to Trinidad for one year and unless that is confirmed by the TTFF then it is bullshit. According to reports they were in contact with him until December last year! That shows that the story is patently false his father takes us for asses.
"I was in constant contact with his father until December. I had gotten his passport number and made arrangement for him to join us, then all communication stopped. His father stopped taking our calls. So, after four, five tries, I left a message stating that if they did not contact us, he would not be considered for the team," reported Chris De Silva, manager of the Trinidad and Tobago national under-20 squad, who are preparing for next month's CONCACAF qualifying tournament for the 2009 FIFA U20 World Cup in Egypt.
If Chris say, then it is so!
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Honestly pops shoulda never really explain anything or jus say he really wasn't down with dealing with that damn ttff and done talk. Doubt anybody woulda argue that.
I cant' recall De silva having to play a yr in the super league cause he play for Cofc in South Caroilna and he starting
I also seriously doubt any half decent ncaa coach would tell a youth intl baller regardless of nationality 'ride out yuh miss too much games so we going with the local ODP or walk-on in yuh place" Transfer out and go play with the competition instead.
Say what choice done make best of luck to the youthman congrats to the young warriors on qualifing :beermug:
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
:devil: :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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my kids much prefer the Canadian setup to T&T or Grenada for that matter, but I still trying to "sell" get them to represent, is I who wrong, meh lil guy(d mouth) even hit meh up with "I iza Trini mon" and start to sing Iwer "Trinidad, Trinidad"", to which he granny hit him with hush, wha you know bout Trini, he come back with "I iza Jammie, mon" and stat to sing "so Jah say"......bottom line, he doh feel he really from/belong here, as he is aware we from elsewhere, but for him- with all due respect, it's just his parents birth place...we still have to guide him in doing what's best for him, us, family, where he really want to be, and then where it should happen...In Maund case, the help was mutual, after which he was able to decide...it's one of the reasons why we live out here, to create opportunities for the family, although patriotic to an extent, one cannot suffer oneself because of mismanagement in ah country, when it comes to sport, or even in war...If the PM (JW) decide to blacklist England/USA/ Kuwait, who amongst you will say, I moving back home now, dem on we bad list, cause My prime Minister say so..
anyway, I will give mine the options(all), but for their safety, life, well-being, I will inform them like it is...and if it is bleak, ah won't be telling them, go still, it used to be nice...patriotic doh mean ignorant &/or chupid
the man give his country ah bligh, and we still waste him down...How come nobody did assasinate Stollmeyer dem character.....listen the man doh feel we stupid, we does just ACT so...this thread didn't need no setta negativity
That is ah pack ah shit you right dey. Real disrespectful!!!
You acting like Trini needed his "Charity". Trini did more for them than they did for Trini. As shown now, obviously we don't need him to succeed. If you love the country then it's not a favor to represent. It's a duty!!
You talk like a man who just happened to have an affiliation to Trini, not a patriot.
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let the boy finish up he schooling...gain some experience with the USA u-20's and beyond (hopefully not hitting the senior level) and yuh might never know he might come back to T&T at the senior level. i mean look at the populations between USA and T&T....big difference right? he has more competition in the US. he obviously has a better chance with T&T. i'm sure that he'll be playing for we at the senior level.
Too late for that now.
He's permanently tied to the USA.
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Good lord, allyuh still on that??? This is a young man we dealing with here, not one of them hardened Soca Warriors allyuh like to cuss up. If nothing else, at least take into consideration the age of the boy y'all bringing all these negative thoughts to. And since I see at least 2 or 3 posts in the other thread, with people saying to slap the man up when the referee not looking, I can understand why the father was afraid that people would hurt his son badly. Come na man, we supposed to be better than this but right now, in this post, none of allyuh would ever get any fair play award. Come on we coming off as narrow minded and petty, I even see one post suggesting that the father do a chris brown to the wife. Enough already.
And another thing - the man said he was looking at the quickest way for the son to finish his schooling. Football is not everything to some of these college players, it is the means to get their scholarships to get their education. If he play for T&T and break his leg tomorrow, what the TTFF going to do for him? I dont think they would pay his tuition at ND do you? Allyuh remember the whole outcry with the female player who was with Giselle in the accident? So help me i forget her name. Mother had to beg jack for money to buy medicine, jack make a big deal outta giving her his credit card? The boy might have a clear education plan mapped out for himself which might involve finishing school in 3 years instead of 4 or something like that. If that is the case, hats off to him.
But enough of this crap. Game done, and the other team win. Wether or not he play is irrelevant. All that damn negative energy y'all chanelling to the other team, I waiting for one of them players to say they were inspired to win it for Maund because of all the crap said about him. Done the talk, he went with the US, he made his choice. And if he happy so be it. crapaud smoke yuh pipe.
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Under all the assness, Rongen was never going to give him more than a few minutes versus us ... protect your assets (whether he's a starter or not, he's an asset). Wise decision, and one likely to have been thought through prior to the game.
There's a really disturbing element to this thread ... aside from the obvious, ah cyah quite label it, yet.
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let the boy finish up he schooling...gain some experience with the USA u-20's and beyond (hopefully not hitting the senior level) and yuh might never know he might come back to T&T at the senior level. i mean look at the populations between USA and T&T....big difference right? he has more competition in the US. he obviously has a better chance with T&T. i'm sure that he'll be playing for we at the senior level.
Too late for that now.
He's permanently tied to the USA.
we never had him to begin with
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
yea is a prophet? How yuh know de man was getting 30 secs?
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
Ah would like to know how them English players treated Shaka and Birchall. Fellas leave the kid alone. He made ah choice, something we all have to do everyday. He did what was best for him, just like Shaka did back then. All yuh dogging JA everyday for having all them English born players on their team, but dissing the kid. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
If dey boo the kid, then all it did is showcase to the world how ignorant we can be. T&T not even de boy country. This is ah petty thread, that should be removed. We are all adults on here, and I would like to believe that we would be in a position to understand this decision.
If we willing to dog this American for not playing for us, then all yuh might as well dog all Trinbagonians who made the decision to leave home to come to NA for the so called "better" life, and refuse to go back to live, because as some does say "things hard home, and dey killing yuh like flies down dey". At least he staying home, he is ah patriot to me. Good luck with your schooling and football career kid.
Moderators, I believe in free speech but this thread is too petty, all it's doing is showcasing small-mindedness - think about it.
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
Ah would like to know how them English players treated Shaka and Birchall. Fellas leave the kid alone. He made ah choice, something we all have to do everyday. He did what was best for him, just like Shaka did back then. All yuh dogging JA everyday for having all them English born players on their team, but dissing the kid. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
If dey boo the kid, then all it did is showcase to the world how ignorant we can be. T&T not even de boy country. This is ah petty thread, that should be removed. We are all adults on here, and I would like to believe that we would be in a position to understand this decision.
If we willing to dog this American for not playing for us, then all yuh might as well dog all Trinbagonians who made the decision to leave home to come to NA for the so called "better" life, and refuse to go back to live, because as some does say "things hard home, and dey killing yuh like flies down dey". At least he staying home, he is ah patriot to me. Good luck with your schooling and football career kid.
Moderators, I believe in free speech but this thread is too petty, all it's doing is showcasing small-mindedness - think about it.
Thank you Baygo Boy
picong is picong
but to wish someone ill, jez eh right
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Good lord, allyuh still on that??? This is a young man we dealing with here, not one of them hardened Soca Warriors allyuh like to cuss up. If nothing else, at least take into consideration the age of the boy y'all bringing all these negative thoughts to. And since I see at least 2 or 3 posts in the other thread, with people saying to slap the man up when the referee not looking, I can understand why the father was afraid that people would hurt his son badly. Come na man, we supposed to be better than this but right now, in this post, none of allyuh would ever get any fair play award. Come on we coming off as narrow minded and petty, I even see one post suggesting that the father do a chris brown to the wife. Enough already.
And another thing - the man said he was looking at the quickest way for the son to finish his schooling. Football is not everything to some of these college players, it is the means to get their scholarships to get their education. If he play for T&T and break his leg tomorrow, what the TTFF going to do for him? I dont think they would pay his tuition at ND do you? Allyuh remember the whole outcry with the female player who was with Giselle in the accident? So help me i forget her name. Mother had to beg jack for money to buy medicine, jack make a big deal outta giving her his credit card? The boy might have a clear education plan mapped out for himself which might involve finishing school in 3 years instead of 4 or something like that. If that is the case, hats off to him.
But enough of this crap. Game done, and the other team win. Wether or not he play is irrelevant. All that damn negative energy y'all chanelling to the other team, I waiting for one of them players to say they were inspired to win it for Maund because of all the crap said about him. Done the talk, he went with the US, he made his choice. And if he happy so be it. crapaud smoke yuh pipe.
Wave yuh Red, White and Black Blue.........
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allyuh fellas getting outta order wid this topic man. we eh acting suh because we hate di yute we support di yute but di man used TNT .. simply used our country and then told us to fuk of. dais wey we mad at . dais wey I mad at.. How yu guh use we and then tell we nah me eh wah play for alyuh again and then he fadda jump up on the news paper like sum pussyhole and try explain. i still stand firm on this subject dem need to get drop of in john john . There ios nothing wrong wid representing USA but to show how theese f**kers hate Trinidad and Tobago dey doh put things in there head and say .. yu know what TNT have such a small pool of players why should I diss them to play for USA . I wish di f**ker never ever get a f**kin game for di USA again. These players dont see what USA does to players. Zeppo tell dem fellas how many foreign born players USA have gaven a 2 minute on an international friendly and end dem carear right there.
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dad i agree with yuh. but i honestly didnt find aaron was anything special at the U17 WC and watch all we games. so next issue. by the way liverpool jus wash man u tail. lets see how adidas live season takes this
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
Ah would like to know how them English players treated Shaka and Birchall. Fellas leave the kid alone. He made ah choice, something we all have to do everyday. He did what was best for him, just like Shaka did back then. All yuh dogging JA everyday for having all them English born players on their team, but dissing the kid. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
If dey boo the kid, then all it did is showcase to the world how ignorant we can be. T&T not even de boy country. This is ah petty thread, that should be removed. We are all adults on here, and I would like to believe that we would be in a position to understand this decision.
If we willing to dog this American for not playing for us, then all yuh might as well dog all Trinbagonians who made the decision to leave home to come to NA for the so called "better" life, and refuse to go back to live, because as some does say "things hard home, and dey killing yuh like flies down dey". At least he staying home, he is ah patriot to me. Good luck with your schooling and football career kid.
Moderators, I believe in free speech but this thread is too petty, all it's doing is showcasing small-mindedness - think about it.
Thank you Baygo Boy
picong is picong
but to wish someone ill, jez eh right
I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
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after reading all this above
you hearing facts from both TTFF and the Maund's..so who do you belive?
what would some of you do in the same situation if your child was involved?
i could tell you this much that my own wife realizes that soccer isnt that big in the US right now as in other countries and therefore it wil 'mean more' for our child to represent T&T
i ent think i will have to 'sell' T&T to my child cause once he hit his teens he will see for himself the impact he can make on peole back home..things like visiting this and the WN website to see how passionate and patriotic we are
but that is if he ends up playing soccer and is actualy good :-\
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after reading all this above
you hearing facts from both TTFF and the Maund's..so who do you belive?
what would some of you do in the same situation if your child was involved?
i could tell you this much that my own wife realizes that soccer isnt that big in the US right now as in other countries and therefore it wil 'mean more' for our child to represent T&T
i ent think i will have to 'sell' T&T to my child cause once he hit his teens he will see for himself the impact he can make on peole back home..things like visiting this and the WN website to see how passionate and patriotic we are
but that is if he ends up playing soccer and is actualy good :-\
i telling my son he will play for tt if he is good enough, bottom line... country over money, you cant take money to your grave but you can still maintain your pride and heritage
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after reading all this above
you hearing facts from both TTFF and the Maund's..so who do you belive?
what would some of you do in the same situation if your child was involved?
i could tell you this much that my own wife realizes that soccer isnt that big in the US right now as in other countries and therefore it wil 'mean more' for our child to represent T&T
i ent think i will have to 'sell' T&T to my child cause once he hit his teens he will see for himself the impact he can make on peole back home..things like visiting this and the WN website to see how passionate and patriotic we are
but that is if he ends up playing soccer and is actualy good :-\
In the next couple year my child would be in this situation (able to play for T&T and play for the USA). This is how I would handle it. If my child want to experience the T&T team it must be done U-15 or lower and it must not be in a qualifier or anything like that. Once is U-17 and up you have to make a choice. This flip flopping thing eh wukking, cause you would not like teams to do it to you.
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I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
You need to go into the other thread and read... maybe then you'll understand what prompted the father to come in and defend his son... and what prompted him to 'explain' their side of the story.
Men on here still with this "he use we" nonsense... as though anything the TTFF has to say is credible. Man bawling "is not de TTFF this is de coaches and managers". Not de same facking coaches and managers leff Norieaga in ah hotel by heself when he get mash up then turn around and say it was not so? Bow now Chris facking de Silva word supposed to be golden??
Allyuh cyah be serious.
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i telling my son he will play for tt if he is good enough, bottom line... country over money, you cant take money to your grave but you can still maintain your pride and heritage
You will tell yuh son whatever yuh mother tell yuh tuh tell him so hush yuh ass.
In the next couple year my child would be in this situation (able to play for T&T and play for the USA). This is how I would handle it. If my child want to experience the T&T team it must be done U-15 or lower and it must not be in a qualifier or anything like that. Once is U-17 and up you have to make a choice. This flip flopping thing eh wukking, cause you would not like teams to do it to you.
You's ah next one talking shit... teams does do that ALL THE TIME, use man like dey's ah piece ah meat. One minute they want yuh hot and sweaty... next minute they leaving yuh tuh fend fuh yuhself in ah hospital far from home far from family. Or worse... they leave yuh dangling, hold up yuh pay or never give yuh another call up. Yuh think de TTFF eh 'flip flopping' on man like Sancho?
Bunch ah fukking jokers on dis site.
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Lol
after reading all this above
you hearing facts from both TTFF and the Maund's..so who do you belive?
what would some of you do in the same situation if your child was involved?
i could tell you this much that my own wife realizes that soccer isnt that big in the US right now as in other countries and therefore it wil 'mean more' for our child to represent T&T
i ent think i will have to 'sell' T&T to my child cause once he hit his teens he will see for himself the impact he can make on peole back home..things like visiting this and the WN website to see how passionate and patriotic we are
but that is if he ends up playing soccer and is actualy good :-\
In the next couple year my child would be in this situation (able to play for T&T and play for the USA). This is how I would handle it. If my child want to experience the T&T team it must be done U-15 or lower and it must not be in a qualifier or anything like that. Once is U-17 and up you have to make a choice. This flip flopping thing eh wukking, cause you would not like teams to do it to you.
Lol .. i ent have them problems .. my son have little or no coordination, so is playstation right thru :-[ :-[
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I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
You need to go into the other thread and read... maybe then you'll understand what prompted the father to come in and defend his son... and what prompted him to 'explain' their side of the story.
Men on here still with this "he use we" nonsense... as though anything the TTFF has to say is credible. Man bawling "is not de TTFF this is de coaches and managers". Not de same facking coaches and managers leff Norieaga in ah hotel by heself when he get mash up then turn around and say it was not so? Bow now Chris facking de Silva word supposed to be golden??
Allyuh cyah be serious.
Thanks Bakes
But I still tryin to find where som eone says his dad says that we in the Gutter...anyone could find that for me
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I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
You need to go into the other thread and read... maybe then you'll understand what prompted the father to come in and defend his son... and what prompted him to 'explain' their side of the story.
Men on here still with this "he use we" nonsense... as though anything the TTFF has to say is credible. Man bawling "is not de TTFF this is de coaches and managers". Not de same facking coaches and managers leff Norieaga in ah hotel by heself when he get mash up then turn around and say it was not so? Bow now Chris facking de Silva word supposed to be golden??
Allyuh cyah be serious.
I understand that Bakes....is the part about hurting him physically on the field I looking for.
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Thanks Bakes
But I still tryin to find where som eone says his dad says that we in the Gutter...anyone could find that for me
De man never said we was in de gutter... he say something that Big Mag di'n like and Big Mag cuss him out. Instead ah cussing BM back de man simply tell him that he have gutter behavior or something so. Quagmire then say something about he son and he repeated to Quagmire "another one in the gutter"... or something so.
I actually find he show real restraint in responding to some of the personal and ignorant attacks made on him and his family... and for WHAT? The facking TTFF??
steups
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Thanks Bakes
But I still tryin to find where som eone says his dad says that we in the Gutter...anyone could find that for me
De man never said we was in de gutter... he say something that Big Mag di'n like and Big Mag cuss him out. Instead ah cussing BM back de man simply tell him that he have gutter behavior or something so. Quagmire then say something about he son and he repeated to Quagmire "another one in the gutter"... or something so.
I actually find he show real restraint in responding to some of the personal and ignorant attacks made on him and his family... and for WHAT? The facking TTFF??
steups
ok thanks
so this was an exchange in a thread
How I miss that ;D
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
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But I still tryin to find where som eone says his dad says that we in the Gutter...anyone could find that for me
I was lookin for that too....it mus be in the 'other' thread...but I cyah find that one either
ah well..
5 pages of bacchanal...and no body eh pass to sell nuts, coconut water , or nuttn yet?
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So Bakes you know De silva? Chris ah talking about? You know him as bow down? what is his f**king complexion? he tall or short? How de f**k yuh calling de man bow down?
steups.
He tell de truth, dey stop responding to de calls and duck when de US come calling, if de US did not show interest he woulda be here bawling like ah biatch asking to play.
doh talk c**tishness.
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Ah wonder if dat yute if come home fuh Carnival and play a mas.......ah feel he woulda feel differently den :devil:
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So Bakes you know De silva? Chris ah talking about? You know him as bow down? what is his f**king complexion? he tall or short? How de f**k yuh calling de man bow down?
steups.
He tell de truth, dey stop responding to de calls and duck when de US come calling, if de US did not show interest he woulda be here bawling like ah biatch asking to play.
doh talk c**tishness.
Where did I call anybody "bow down" yuh dyslexic c**t? This is what I said
Bow now Chris facking de Silva word supposed to be golden??
It was a typo... "But now". You need tuh sort yuhself out with that 'bow down' fixation yuh have.
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Ah wonder if dat yute if come home fuh Carnival and play a mas.......ah feel he woulda feel differently den :devil:
Latas woulda give him de big truck he was drivin kanaval tuesday
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i telling my son he will play for tt if he is good enough, bottom line... country over money, you cant take money to your grave but you can still maintain your pride and heritage
You will tell yuh son whatever yuh mother tell yuh tuh tell him so hush yuh ass.
In the next couple year my child would be in this situation (able to play for T&T and play for the USA). This is how I would handle it. If my child want to experience the T&T team it must be done U-15 or lower and it must not be in a qualifier or anything like that. Once is U-17 and up you have to make a choice. This flip flopping thing eh wukking, cause you would not like teams to do it to you.
You's ah next one talking shit... teams does do that ALL THE TIME, use man like dey's ah piece ah meat. One minute they want yuh hot and sweaty... next minute they leaving yuh tuh fend fuh yuhself in ah hospital far from home far from family. Or worse... they leave yuh dangling, hold up yuh pay or never give yuh another call up. Yuh think de TTFF eh 'flip flopping' on man like Sancho?
Bunch ah f**kking jokers on dis site.
Exactly Bakes and that's why if you going to play for the TTFF you have to make up your mind to put up with that shyte. No one arguing(at least not me) that the TTFF does use players....wait......as a matter of fact we cannot say that the TTFF does "use" players, as players have to make the team, not the other way around. You can say they does treat players badly. Look the TTFF did not even object to FIFA when he filed his claim to rep the USA. DeSilva said that they would not block him and they did not.
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So Bakes you know De silva? Chris ah talking about? You know him as bow down? what is his f**king complexion? he tall or short? How de f**k yuh calling de man bow down?
steups.
He tell de truth, dey stop responding to de calls and duck when de US come calling, if de US did not show interest he woulda be here bawling like ah biatch asking to play.
doh talk c**tishness.
Where did I call anybody "bow down" yuh dyslexic c**t? This is what I said
Bow now Chris facking de Silva word supposed to be golden??
It was a typo... "But now". You need tuh sort yuhself out with that 'bow down' fixation yuh have.
yuh is ah real cow c**t..yuh call de man bow could be a typo? yuh taking we for assholes like Maund fadder? look wey de b de o and de w is on a keybord, dat culd be ah f**king typo...haul yuh ass....De silva is not into dat kinda shit...he send messages, dey requested assistance and den stop taing calls like c**ts...he now saying shit about de TTFF eh call dem de chile woulda miss school etc..bullshit
if he eh want to play for we den good but doh make shitty excuse
dey should f**king kick him in he c**t yesterday
maybe desilva lie and de TTFF try to block him ent/
steups
De sikva is ah good fella nd he does help dem youths out well...he tell de f**king truth
Last month Maund expressed a desire to join the T&T team even after being invited by the US U-20 team But according to T&T team manager Chris De Silva, the player’s heart appears to be elsewhere.
“We had been in constant contact before Christmas. His father was in touch with us and they expressed a desire to come to our training camp after the one with the US team. But even after they made requests for us to facilitate his visit, it appeared that he wanted to see what his options were with the US. All communication was cut… there was no response from them so at this point the player is not part of the squad. He needs to be fully committed if he wants to play for Trinidad and Tobago,” De Silva told TTFF Media on Wednesday. Maund appeared for T&T at the 2007 FIFA Under 17 World Championship in South Korea.
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Ah wonder if dat yute if come home fuh Carnival and play a mas.......ah feel he woulda feel differently den :devil:
Latas woulda give him de big truck he was drivin kanaval tuesday
yeah dat was a Bedford truck chasis he was riding boy
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
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Re: Aaron Maund Called to USA UNDER 20 TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 06:55:26 AM » Quote
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Maund dumps T&T
Maund dumps T&T
Ian Prescott iprescott@trinidadexpress.com
Saturday, February 28th 2009
"I was in constant contact with his father until December. I had gotten his passport number and made arrangement for him to join us, then all communication stopped. His father stopped taking our calls. So, after four, five tries, I left a message stating that if they did not contact us, he would not be considered for the team," reported Chris De Silva, manager of the Trinidad and Tobago national under-20 squad, who are preparing for next month's CONCACAF qualifying tournament for the 2009 FIFA U20 World Cup in Egypt.
Bakes read that line.....you're excelent at comprehension, Tell me what you get from that line.
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
Yeah but WC you think Sam talking about physical harm? I took it as beating the USA.
Just like when fishs wrote break his heart.
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
Ah would like to know how them English players treated Shaka and Birchall. Fellas leave the kid alone. He made ah choice, something we all have to do everyday. He did what was best for him, just like Shaka did back then. All yuh dogging JA everyday for having all them English born players on their team, but dissing the kid. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
If dey boo the kid, then all it did is showcase to the world how ignorant we can be. T&T not even de boy country. This is ah petty thread, that should be removed. We are all adults on here, and I would like to believe that we would be in a position to understand this decision.
If we willing to dog this American for not playing for us, then all yuh might as well dog all Trinbagonians who made the decision to leave home to come to NA for the so called "better" life, and refuse to go back to live, because as some does say "things hard home, and dey killing yuh like flies down dey". At least he staying home, he is ah patriot to me. Good luck with your schooling and football career kid.
Moderators, I believe in free speech but this thread is too petty, all it's doing is showcasing small-mindedness - think about it.
Thank you Baygo Boy
picong is picong
but to wish someone ill, jez eh right
I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
doh study that blutthering old coot nah.
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It appears this descision and past decisions were made based on which situation each time can benefit this player then and now. His allegiance is to himself.
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
Yeah but WC you think Sam talking about physical harm? I took it as beating the USA.
Just like when fishs wrote break his heart.
Elan, You might have the right interpretation there
but at the time I guess I took it the same way Mr Maund did
and being what hindsight is, maybe he should NOT have come on here to give an explanation, as the discussion has headed south
Fishs comment, to me, is benign
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yuh is ah real cow c**t..yuh call de man bow could be a typo? yuh taking we for assholes like Maund fadder? look wey de b de o and de w is on a keybord, dat culd be ah f**king typo...haul yuh ass....De silva is not into dat kinda shit...he send messages, dey requested assistance and den stop taing calls like c**ts...he now saying shit about de TTFF eh call dem de chile woulda miss school etc..bullshit
if he eh want to play for we den good but doh make shitty excuse
dey should f**king kick him in he c**t yesterday
maybe desilva lie and de TTFF try to block him ent/
steups
De sikva is ah good fella nd he does help dem youths out well...he tell de f**king truth
Last month Maund expressed a desire to join the T&T team even after being invited by the US U-20 team But according to T&T team manager Chris De Silva, the player’s heart appears to be elsewhere.
“We had been in constant contact before Christmas. His father was in touch with us and they expressed a desire to come to our training camp after the one with the US team. But even after they made requests for us to facilitate his visit, it appeared that he wanted to see what his options were with the US. All communication was cut… there was no response from them so at this point the player is not part of the squad. He needs to be fully committed if he wants to play for Trinidad and Tobago,” De Silva told TTFF Media on Wednesday. Maund appeared for T&T at the 2007 FIFA Under 17 World Championship in South Korea.
I doh have to take you for an asshole... you are an asshole... an emotional one at that. It very easy to type "bow" if yuh trying to type "but"... and the next word on yuh mind is "now".
You insist that De Silva talk de truth... de Silva is yuh facking man? Yuh does 'bow down' infront of him tuh put yuh head on ah block he cock fuh him so?
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Exactly Bakes and that's why if you going to play for the TTFF you have to make up your mind to put up with that shyte. No one arguing(at least not me) that the TTFF does use players....wait......as a matter of fact we cannot say that the TTFF does "use" players, as players have to make the team, not the other way around. You can say they does treat players badly. Look the TTFF did not even object to FIFA when he filed his claim to rep the USA. DeSilva said that they would not block him and they did not.
Elan how can you say the TTFF doh use players? Whether players have to make the team or not whenever the TTFF feels they are no longer an asset they toss them aside. They use the players (let's not even get into the mistreatment) to make money for themselves, barely pay the players anything, spite them for standing up for their rights, hold back money owed to the players even after an arbitrator ruled that they owe it to them...yuh need me to go on?
People acting like is Trinidad and Tobago the Maunds were dealing with... is not the people of TnT they was dealing with... is the TTFF plain and simple. We self acknowledge on here not a good 2 1/2 years ago that TnT football doh belong to we it belong to Jack and he cabal. How then in the world if somebody in ah 'dispute' with the TTFF that we all ah sudden acting like is we nation and people get de affront??
Bakes read that line.....you're excelent at comprehension, Tell me what you get from that line.
All I get from that is that Chris de Silva giving one version of the story and Maund father giving another version. You choose to believe the TTFF version. I don't.
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I doh have to take you for an asshole... you are an asshole... an emotional one at that. It very easy to type "bow" if yuh trying to type "but"... and the next word on yuh mind is "now".
You insist that De Silva talk de truth... de Silva is yuh facking man? Yuh does 'bow down' infront of him tuh put yuh head on ah block he cock fuh him so?
Yuh grasping at staws yuh try tuh f**k up de man and now yuh back tracking, something yuh very adept at doing!
I am an asshole! I will proclaim dat, you is ah prick is dat why yuh want to f**k me?
Why yuh always have to bring buller man talk into the equaton?
Yuh repressed..free up yuhself dis is 2009, and allyuh bhave all kinda rights now...be yuhself, procalin yuh homosexuality....is not only me yuh quick tuh call buller is Omar too!
i feel yuh have ah ahrd on fuh both of us, but I can only speak for myself eh...I like woman and while you may fancy yuhself a "woman" of sorts, I not into you and that lifestyle, keep dat for when yuh parading arond DC in yuh sequined drawers.
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Lol after reading all this above
you hearing facts from both TTFF and the Maund's..so who do you belive?
what would some of you do in the same situation if your child was involved?
i could tell you this much that my own wife realizes that soccer isnt that big in the US right now as in other countries and therefore it wil 'mean more' for our child to represent T&T
i ent think i will have to 'sell' T&T to my child cause once he hit his teens he will see for himself the impact he can make on peole back home..things like visiting this and the WN website to see how passionate and patriotic we are
but that is if he ends up playing soccer and is actualy good :-\
In the next couple year my child would be in this situation (able to play for T&T and play for the USA). This is how I would handle it. If my child want to experience the T&T team it must be done U-15 or lower and it must not be in a qualifier or anything like that. Once is U-17 and up you have to make a choice. This flip flopping thing eh wukking, cause you would not like teams to do it to you.
Lol .. i ent have them problems .. my son have little or no coordination, so is playstation right thru :-[ :-[
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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But I still tryin to find where som eone says his dad says that we in the Gutter...anyone could find that for me
I was lookin for that too....it mus be in the 'other' thread...but I cyah find that one either
ah well..
5 pages of bacchanal...and no body eh pass to sell nuts, coconut water , or nuttn yet?
look it here scroll down
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.30
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
Yeah but WC you think Sam talking about physical harm? I took it as beating the USA.
Just like when fishs wrote break his heart.
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 04:34:45 PM »
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If I was in T&T.. I would BOO Aaron Maund....
Whole facking game.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boo... Boo !!!!!!!!!! you mumacunny.....
Ah hope we hit him some hard slap when de Ref eh looking.....
F00000ck he - We !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - that is de talk for tomorrow....
He take a next man place on de T&T side, get de experience and then jump ship, USA didn't want him and he use we, .. F0000ck HE we............
So I suppose that they meant hug him as opposed to assault him???
And Elan, do not question my patriotism, I might live in the US, I might have a white yankee husband. I might have two yankee children, I might be working for the yankee dollar. But I cry my eyes out when the USA beat the strike squad donkey years ago I still remember how that frigging hurt. And I cry, jump up and scream when we beat Bharain. I jump up nuff times on de bloody parkway with my trini flag. I put a trini flag outside meh house in this little flecking white country town. And I have a frigging trini flag back of my car. And so help me if we make it to SA, the Man done know already I gone for a few weeks to support the land of my birth. My 3 year old can sing "our nation's dawning" because I taught her. She also Know the school pledge, remmber it... "I solomly pledge to dedicate my life to the service of my god and my country?" . Her favorate lullaby is Boca Chimes. DO not question my patriotism, just because I find allyuh harsh on the youth. An when I see your ass in Nashville and I have my red shirt on and I proudly holding meh red white and black flag high in the sky, then if you still find I unpatriotic, have the balls to come up to me in person and tell me that. You really vexing me now.
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Re: Maund's father defends his son's switch to the USA
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Quote from: Small Magician aka Wazza on Yesterday at 10:13:15 PM
hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Good lord, allyuh still on that??? This is a young man we dealing with here, not one of them hardened Soca Warriors allyuh like to cuss up. If nothing else, at least take into consideration the age of the boy y'all bringing all these negative thoughts to. And since I see at least 2 or 3 posts in the other thread, with people saying to slap the man up when the referee not looking, I can understand why the father was afraid that people would hurt his son badly. Come na man, we supposed to be better than this but right now, in this post, none of allyuh would ever get any fair play award. Come on we coming off as narrow minded and petty, I even see one post suggesting that the father do a chris brown to the wife. Enough already.
And another thing - the man said he was looking at the quickest way for the son to finish his schooling. Football is not everything to some of these college players, it is the means to get their scholarships to get their education. If he play for T&T and break his leg tomorrow, what the TTFF going to do for him? I dont think they would pay his tuition at ND do you? Allyuh remember the whole outcry with the female player who was with Giselle in the accident? So help me i forget her name. Mother had to beg jack for money to buy medicine, jack make a big deal outta giving her his credit card? The boy might have a clear education plan mapped out for himself which might involve finishing school in 3 years instead of 4 or something like that. If that is the case, hats off to him.
But enough of this crap. Game done, and the other team win. Wether or not he play is irrelevant. All that damn negative energy y'all chanelling to the other team, I waiting for one of them players to say they were inspired to win it for Maund because of all the crap said about him. Done the talk, he went with the US, he made his choice. And if he happy so be it. crapaud smoke yuh pipe.
Wave yuh Red, White and Black Blue.........
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Quagmire on March 12, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
Yeah but WC you think Sam talking about physical harm? I took it as beating the USA.
Just like when fishs wrote break his heart.
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 04:34:45 PM »
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If I was in T&T.. I would BOO Aaron Maund....
Whole facking game.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boo... Boo !!!!!!!!!! you mumacunny.....
Ah hope we hit him some hard slap when de Ref eh looking.....
F00000ck he - We !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - that is de talk for tomorrow....
He take a next man place on de T&T side, get de experience and then jump ship, USA didn't want him and he use we, .. F0000ck HE we............
So I suppose that they meant hug him as opposed to assault him???
And Elan, do not question my patriotism, I might live in the US, I might have a white yankee husband. I might have two yankee children, I might be working for the yankee dollar. But I cry my eyes out when the USA beat the strike squad donkey years ago I still remember how that frigging hurt. And I cry, jump up and scream when we beat Bharain. I jump up nuff times on de bloody parkway with my trini flag. I put a trini flag outside meh house in this little flecking white country town. And I have a frigging trini flag back of my car. And so help me if we make it to SA, the Man done know already I gone for a few weeks to support the land of my birth. My 3 year old can sing "our nation's dawning" because I taught her. She also Know the school pledge, remmber it... "I solomly pledge to dedicate my life to the service of my god and my country?" . Her favorate lullaby is Boca Chimes. DO not question my patriotism, just because I find allyuh harsh on the youth. An when I see your ass in Nashville and I have my red shirt on and I proudly holding meh red white and black flag high in the sky, then if you still find I unpatriotic, have the balls to come up to me in person and tell me that. You really vexing me now.
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Re: Maund's father defends his son's switch to the USA
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hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Good lord, allyuh still on that??? This is a young man we dealing with here, not one of them hardened Soca Warriors allyuh like to cuss up. If nothing else, at least take into consideration the age of the boy y'all bringing all these negative thoughts to. And since I see at least 2 or 3 posts in the other thread, with people saying to slap the man up when the referee not looking, I can understand why the father was afraid that people would hurt his son badly. Come na man, we supposed to be better than this but right now, in this post, none of allyuh would ever get any fair play award. Come on we coming off as narrow minded and petty, I even see one post suggesting that the father do a chris brown to the wife. Enough already.
And another thing - the man said he was looking at the quickest way for the son to finish his schooling. Football is not everything to some of these college players, it is the means to get their scholarships to get their education. If he play for T&T and break his leg tomorrow, what the TTFF going to do for him? I dont think they would pay his tuition at ND do you? Allyuh remember the whole outcry with the female player who was with Giselle in the accident? So help me i forget her name. Mother had to beg jack for money to buy medicine, jack make a big deal outta giving her his credit card? The boy might have a clear education plan mapped out for himself which might involve finishing school in 3 years instead of 4 or something like that. If that is the case, hats off to him.
But enough of this crap. Game done, and the other team win. Wether or not he play is irrelevant. All that damn negative energy y'all chanelling to the other team, I waiting for one of them players to say they were inspired to win it for Maund because of all the crap said about him. Done the talk, he went with the US, he made his choice. And if he happy so be it. crapaud smoke yuh pipe.
Wave yuh Red, White and Black Blue.........
girl slow yuh blasted roll..nobody hard on the youth, is de blasted father with he lies.
Let him play for who he want jes doh try tuh make me out like dunces.
Yuh ketch?
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BM, give us a better run down on how the crowd treated Maund.
Boos all night, how did he respond, did our players and staff acknowledged him, after the game did our players shake his hand, exchange shirts, etc etc....
Ah would like to know how them English players treated Shaka and Birchall. Fellas leave the kid alone. He made ah choice, something we all have to do everyday. He did what was best for him, just like Shaka did back then. All yuh dogging JA everyday for having all them English born players on their team, but dissing the kid. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
If dey boo the kid, then all it did is showcase to the world how ignorant we can be. T&T not even de boy country. This is ah petty thread, that should be removed. We are all adults on here, and I would like to believe that we would be in a position to understand this decision.
If we willing to dog this American for not playing for us, then all yuh might as well dog all Trinbagonians who made the decision to leave home to come to NA for the so called "better" life, and refuse to go back to live, because as some does say "things hard home, and dey killing yuh like flies down dey". At least he staying home, he is ah patriot to me. Good luck with your schooling and football career kid.
Moderators, I believe in free speech but this thread is too petty, all it's doing is showcasing small-mindedness - think about it.
Thank you Baygo Boy
picong is picong
but to wish someone ill, jez eh right
I have to read over the thread cause I yet to see where anyone wish him ill.
Baygo what ignorant yuh talking about, I sure is maybe less than 5% of American kow that the U-20 playing a qualifier now. It have soccer players and coaches who eh even know they playing right now. Booing is part of the game, that have nothing to do with ignorance as you say.
How when anywhere else in the world do something it okay, but when T&T do it it backward and ignorant?
Elan, FYI booing not a part of any game - for the most part it is considered rude. As regards your statement in bold - ignorance is ignorance no matter who perpetuating it, Trinbagonian or a Martian for that matter. At my age it's very difficult to entertain ignorance.
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Exactly Bakes and that's why if you going to play for the TTFF you have to make up your mind to put up with that shyte. No one arguing(at least not me) that the TTFF does use players....wait......as a matter of fact we cannot say that the TTFF does "use" players, as players have to make the team, not the other way around. You can say they does treat players badly. Look the TTFF did not even object to FIFA when he filed his claim to rep the USA. DeSilva said that they would not block him and they did not.
Elan how can you say the TTFF doh use players? Whether players have to make the team or not whenever the TTFF feels they are no longer an asset they toss them aside. They use the players (let's not even get into the mistreatment) to make money for themselves, barely pay the players anything, spite them for standing up for their rights, hold back money owed to the players even after an arbitrator ruled that they owe it to them...yuh need me to go on?
People acting like is Trinidad and Tobago the Maunds were dealing with... is not the people of TnT they was dealing with... is the TTFF plain and simple. We self acknowledge on here not a good 2 1/2 years ago that TnT football doh belong to we it belong to Jack and he cabal. How then in the world if somebody in ah 'dispute' with the TTFF that we all ah sudden acting like is we nation and people get de affront??
Bakes read that line.....you're excelent at comprehension, Tell me what you get from that line.
All I get from that is that Chris de Silva giving one version of the story and Maund father giving another version. You choose to believe the TTFF version. I don't.
I eh choose to believe the TTFF I believe DE Silva cause he gave specific info without divulging personal info like the PP#.
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: Big Magician on March 12, 2009, 09:52:39 PM
fu#k you ASS..or ASM ....FU#kK YOU....
I was there when we picked the tnt U-13 side...I was there ...I gave Glenroy Samuel money to take a taxi home cause he had none,...and ah sure other kids did it too...with others coaches...
when time to go to Korea...Maund take some kid place who was working hard for 4 fu#king years....
now he playing for USA....two side of the story meh mudder c#nt...f**k YOU AMM..ASS or what ever de fu#k yuh name...
Go back to your GUTTER.
Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
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Quote from: NJsTriniGunna on March 12, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
It is possible that he felt he could get better work in the US, and he was gonna come back to TT when he was a better player.
yeah rite ,yah know AMM stand for A Macco Mehman rite ,he jump ship .
Another gutter rat heard from!!!!!!!
look the start here Post #36
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=42628.msg540147#msg540147
if it was me I would take offence to such comments about my Son
but hay....every man for himself eh
Yeah but WC you think Sam talking about physical harm? I took it as beating the USA.
Just like when fishs wrote break his heart.
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Re: Thread for the T&T U-20 vs USA U-20 (13-Mar-09).
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 04:34:45 PM »
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If I was in T&T.. I would BOO Aaron Maund....
Whole facking game.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boo... Boo !!!!!!!!!! you mumacunny.....
Ah hope we hit him some hard slap when de Ref eh looking.....
F00000ck he - We !!!!!!!!!!!!!! - that is de talk for tomorrow....
He take a next man place on de T&T side, get de experience and then jump ship, USA didn't want him and he use we, .. F0000ck HE we............
So I suppose that they meant hug him as opposed to assault him???
And Elan, do not question my patriotism, I might live in the US, I might have a white yankee husband. I might have two yankee children, I might be working for the yankee dollar. But I cry my eyes out when the USA beat the strike squad donkey years ago I still remember how that frigging hurt. And I cry, jump up and scream when we beat Bharain. I jump up nuff times on de bloody parkway with my trini flag. I put a trini flag outside meh house in this little flecking white country town. And I have a frigging trini flag back of my car. And so help me if we make it to SA, the Man done know already I gone for a few weeks to support the land of my birth. My 3 year old can sing "our nation's dawning" because I taught her. She also Know the school pledge, remmber it... "I solomly pledge to dedicate my life to the service of my god and my country?" . Her favorate lullaby is Boca Chimes. DO not question my patriotism, just because I find allyuh harsh on the youth. An when I see your ass in Nashville and I have my red shirt on and I proudly holding meh red white and black flag high in the sky, then if you still find I unpatriotic, have the balls to come up to me in person and tell me that. You really vexing me now.
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Re: Maund's father defends his son's switch to the USA
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Quote from: Small Magician aka Wazza on Yesterday at 10:13:15 PM
hope your son enjoyed the 30 seconds on the pitch today...
hope he enjoyed the numerous boo's he got as well
Good lord, allyuh still on that??? This is a young man we dealing with here, not one of them hardened Soca Warriors allyuh like to cuss up. If nothing else, at least take into consideration the age of the boy y'all bringing all these negative thoughts to. And since I see at least 2 or 3 posts in the other thread, with people saying to slap the man up when the referee not looking, I can understand why the father was afraid that people would hurt his son badly. Come na man, we supposed to be better than this but right now, in this post, none of allyuh would ever get any fair play award. Come on we coming off as narrow minded and petty, I even see one post suggesting that the father do a chris brown to the wife. Enough already.
And another thing - the man said he was looking at the quickest way for the son to finish his schooling. Football is not everything to some of these college players, it is the means to get their scholarships to get their education. If he play for T&T and break his leg tomorrow, what the TTFF going to do for him? I dont think they would pay his tuition at ND do you? Allyuh remember the whole outcry with the female player who was with Giselle in the accident? So help me i forget her name. Mother had to beg jack for money to buy medicine, jack make a big deal outta giving her his credit card? The boy might have a clear education plan mapped out for himself which might involve finishing school in 3 years instead of 4 or something like that. If that is the case, hats off to him.
But enough of this crap. Game done, and the other team win. Wether or not he play is irrelevant. All that damn negative energy y'all chanelling to the other team, I waiting for one of them players to say they were inspired to win it for Maund because of all the crap said about him. Done the talk, he went with the US, he made his choice. And if he happy so be it. crapaud smoke yuh pipe.
Wave yuh Red, White and Black Blue.........
What your personal life have to do with the Topic? I will end there. Cause I not going that far.....laterz.
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Chris :notworthy: De Silva... :rotfl:
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It's amazing how much energy is focused on this kid....it's his choice...his life.....perhaps if allyuh redirect allyuh energy and focus on de leprechaun and all he shenanigans den maybe we'll have a Football Federation that puts the nation first.....
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and to make matters worst the boy aint no special player. sorry to say it buh is d truth
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and to make matters worst the boy aint no special player. sorry to say it buh is d truth
how ya mean
he get ah corbeaux sweat against Tn T ;D
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and to make matters worst the boy aint no special player. sorry to say it buh is d truth
how ya mean
he get ah corbeaux sweat against Tn T ;D
and trus mi dais di only swet he guh get wearing The USA colours..
Glad fi him.. I wish him di best. Like I wish cunningham..
war
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and to make matters worst the boy aint no special player. sorry to say it buh is d truth
how ya mean
he get ah corbeaux sweat against Tn T ;D
and trus mi dais di only swet he guh get wearing The USA colours..
Glad fi him.. I wish him di best. Like I wish cunningham..
war
look where cunningham is now no more national team fi him :devil: :devil:
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According to Anton , Maund could still represent T&T at the senior level ....
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Of course FIFA rules say so but it eh go happen.
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Dis still an issue? Ok den. I highly doubt it...buh...whaever.....people like de "yesterday is yesterday....today is today" behaviour.
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Of course FIFA rules say so but it eh go happen.
What was interesting was the way he said it, as if it was with some dissapointment that we dont have him now but maybe in the future.
He also expressed dissapointment in the fact that this kid got the exposure with T&T when he was rejected by the US ........... etc etc
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Exactly Bakes and that's why if you going to play for the TTFF you have to make up your mind to put up with that shyte. No one arguing(at least not me) that the TTFF does use players....wait......as a matter of fact we cannot say that the TTFF does "use" players, as players have to make the team, not the other way around. You can say they does treat players badly. Look the TTFF did not even object to FIFA when he filed his claim to rep the USA. DeSilva said that they would not block him and they did not.
Elan how can you say the TTFF doh use players? Whether players have to make the team or not whenever the TTFF feels they are no longer an asset they toss them aside. They use the players (let's not even get into the mistreatment) to make money for themselves, barely pay the players anything, spite them for standing up for their rights, hold back money owed to the players even after an arbitrator ruled that they owe it to them...yuh need me to go on?
People acting like is Trinidad and Tobago the Maunds were dealing with... is not the people of TnT they was dealing with... is the TTFF plain and simple. We self acknowledge on here not a good 2 1/2 years ago that TnT football doh belong to we it belong to Jack and he cabal. How then in the world if somebody in ah 'dispute' with the TTFF that we all ah sudden acting like is we nation and people get de affront??
Bakes read that line.....you're excelent at comprehension, Tell me what you get from that line.
All I get from that is that Chris de Silva giving one version of the story and Maund father giving another version. You choose to believe the TTFF version. I don't.
Disagree her Bakes.
De Silva spoke for himself. I don't view that as the TTFF talking but as a reputable man talking. Using the TTFF as a excuse is simplistic and easily transparent.
As someone else said. The Maunds' are only concerned with self as their decisions attest. While I disagree with the personal attacks, I do think that their response was weak. He would have been better off not responding.
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thanks, Bakes have to insult or he eh go feel good...besides he jes LOVE to take the opposite view, he practicing
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When TTTF can pay for people children education tuition, then people can talk. I would have done the same thing.
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When TTTF can pay for people children education tuition, then people can talk. I would have done the same thing.
UWI free.
Secondary Schools free.
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thanks, Bakes have to insult or he eh go feel good...besides he jes LOVE to take the opposite view, he practicing
ah HAH
the truth finally comes out
he is ah Devils Advocate :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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When TTTF can pay for people children education tuition, then people can talk. I would have done the same thing.
bullshit he is lying about having to leave school and live in T&T....besides he wasn't out of school when he was in Florida in the US camp?
BULLSHIT!
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thanks, Bakes have to insult or he eh go feel good...besides he jes LOVE to take the opposite view, he practicing
Is that so?
Who did I insult before you rush yuh c**t in with yuh 'bow down' talk? De blood rush to yuh head so fast when I talk about Chris de Silva that yuh fly in like is yuh woman ah insult with all kinda imaginary talk. I practicing alright, to keep clear of deceitful menopausal loser frauds like you.
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Dumpers... I am not disputing whether de Silva called or not, but what is de timeline? The father say after the tournament nobody contacted them, how much time passed between then and when de Silva started calling? Maybe by that time they did done get fed up of the rigamarole.
Man on here acting like allyuh was party tuh de transactions, why allyuh doh share de transcripts from what allyuh heard or witnessed?
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When TTTF can pay for people children education tuition, then people can talk. I would have done the same thing.
Like the USSF will pay for tuition?
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The timeline is clear...even if they were not kept in contact until December 2008, when there was communication they expressed a desire to attend the T&T training camp. After being selected for the US team they ceased taking calls.
I can understand that there may have been some level of consternation over the way the TTFF handles their business, but it is disingenous to suggest thathe had to sell T&T to his son, who himself stated that the team and management were like a family whereas the US camp was everyman for himself!
Additionally the man stated that things were handled badly smehow during the 2007 U-17 World Cup, if that were true why would he have even stated to the TTFF that he was interested in joining the camp for this U20 WC then?
he was simply hedging his bets...no call from the US, then we going to T&T!
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The timeline is clear...even if they were not kept in contact until December 2008, when there was communication they expressed a desire to attend the T&T training camp. After being selected for the US team they ceased taking calls.
I can understand that there may have been some level of consternation over the way the TTFF handles their business, but it is disingenous to suggest thathe had to sell T&T to his son, who himself stated that the team and management were like a family whereas the US camp was everyman for himself!
Additionally the man stated that things were handled badly smehow during the 2007 U-17 World Cup, if that were true why would he have even stated to the TTFF that he was interested in joining the camp for this U20 WC then?
he was simply hedging his bets...no call from the US, then we going to T&T!
Anton corneal said the same thing last night he is looking at options he was a discarded player at under 17 level ... Look at it this was he part of the US squad of 40 prior to join our under 17 team
US-BASED TRIO JOINS U17S FOR TRAINING
Already here are New York-based goalkeeper Kern Caesar and Los Angeles-based forward Cameron Roget and they will continue training with the team which goes into camp this weekend after a trip to Venezuela was called off on Thursday.
Also coming in next week is forward/midfielder Aaron Maund who was a member of the United States squad of 40 players prior to the team’s participation at the final qualifying round.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
People understand very well that Maund wants to play for HIS country.
It just appears that HIS country appears to be a matter of convenience for him and his father. In addition, the excuse about school used by the father to explain as a contributing factor as to why he chose USA over T&T simply doesn't fly.
Leh meh make an analogy if I might. Brendan Nash couldn't make Australia team...hell..he couldn't even make the first XI for a club in Australia but he comes to the WI after spending the vast majority of his professional cricketing career (at age 30) to the WI, plays one season and gets selected on the WI team. Wha yuh think West Indian's reaction would be if all of a sudden Australia come calling and Nash decide he goin and play for them instead?
De yute and he faddah doin what in dey best interests and good fuh dem. I wish dem well. Dey doh owe any explanation to anybody. But doh come on here tryin to sell we shit and sayin is sugar. Yuh proper deserve yuh cuss den.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
People understand very well that Maund wants to play for HIS country.
It just appears that HIS country appears to be a matter of convenience for him and his father. In addition, the excuse about school used by the father to explain as a contributing factor as to why he chose USA over T&T simply doesn't fly.
Leh meh make an analogy if I might. Brendan Nash couldn't make Australia team...hell..he couldn't even make the first XI for a club in Australia but he comes to the WI after spending the vast majority of his professional cricketing career (at age 30) to the WI, plays one season and gets selected on the WI team. Wha yuh think West Indian's reaction would be if all of a sudden Australia come calling and Nash decide he goin and play for them instead?
De yute and he faddah doin what in dey best interests and good fuh dem. I wish dem well. Dey doh owe any explanation to anybody. But doh come on here tryin to sell we shit and sayin is sugar. Yuh proper deserve yuh cuss den.
either way it boils down to why we still discussing this shithong? ??? ignore them sellouts, this thread has gone on way too long talking about a player who has no identity.
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thanks, Bakes have to insult or he eh go feel good...besides he jes LOVE to take the opposite view, he practicing
Is that so?
Who did I insult before you rush yuh c**t in with yuh 'bow down' talk? De blood rush to yuh head so fast when I talk about Chris de Silva that yuh fly in like is yuh woman ah insult with all kinda imaginary talk. I practicing alright, to keep clear of deceitful menopausal loser frauds like you.
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Dumpers... I am not disputing whether de Silva called or not, but what is de timeline? The father say after the tournament nobody contacted them, how much time passed between then and when de Silva started calling? Maybe by that time they did done get fed up of the rigamarole.
Man on here acting like allyuh was party tuh de transactions, why allyuh doh share de transcripts from what allyuh heard or witnessed?
The timeline argument is grasping at straws. At the very least he was contacted before the team was assembled for preparation.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
Both of you intelligent people have completely missed the point here.
I don't think anyone begrudges someone wanting to represent their land of birth. No one has said a bad word about the other Trini eligible player, Shannon Williams.
People are reacting to someone duplicitly placing self-interest above patriotism. The kid is american so he has the right to represent his homeland. However, when it served his interest, he was happy to ride the bandwaggon to the U-17 WC.
The fool here is his father for coming-up with a flimsy excuse for their decision.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
Both of you intelligent people have completely missed the point here.
I don't think anyone begrudges someone wanting to represent their land of birth. No one has said a bad word about the other Trini eligible player, Shannon Williams.
People are reacting to someone duplicitly placing self-interest above patriotism. The kid is american so he has the right to represent his homeland. However, when it served his interest, he was happy to ride the bandwaggon to the U-17 WC.
The fool here is his father for coming-up with a flimsy excuse for their decision.
Amen and Amen!
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
Both of you intelligent people have completely missed the point here.
I don't think anyone begrudges someone wanting to represent their land of birth. No one has said a bad word about the other Trini eligible player, Shannon Williams.
People are reacting to someone duplicitly placing self-interest above patriotism. The kid is american so he has the right to represent his homeland. However, when it served his interest, he was happy to ride the bandwaggon to the U-17 WC.
The fool here is his father for coming-up with a flimsy excuse for their decision.
I must admit this is an extreme case but within his right none the less
he is allowed to go between countries until a certain level, right?
Obviously if he felt that the TnT TTFF setup would be in his best interest he would have stayed with the TTFF
but he felt that the USA situation was best in the end
If this is a problem maybe countries should get FIFA to dis allow players so young from doing such shenanigans in the future.
as far as I understand it ,his actions were well within FIFA rules
and yes his father created a big hullabaluu by his explanation.
and the TTFF in my opinion does NOT represent the People of TnT
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The timeline argument is grasping at straws. At the very least he was contacted before the team was assembled for preparation.
Unfortunately for you, you calling it 'grasping at straws' doesn't automatically make it so... unless you have some secret pipeline to inside information that the rest of us aren't privy to. Even assuming arguendo that you are correct that the family acted in a mercenary manner regarding the youth's self interest, how does that make any of you victims to the point that you feel so aggrieved? Far less aggrieved that some have called (be it in jest or not) for physical repercussions to the yute?
I keep saying it and it keeps falling on deaf ears... if anything the TTFF is the only victim here, they are the ones who were used, not the people of Trinidad and Tobago. The TTFF has time and time again made it clear that its interests are separate from the footballing public's. The TTFF treats players worse than the treatment allegedly meted out to it by this kid, if anything it's getting its just desserts.
...and that's just assuming that the mercenary angle ascribed to the family by you and others is correct, which we have no guarantee of.
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BAKES is nothing mercenary really, they made decisions based on what was the BEST available for their son in their eyes, to me that is great parenting.
Chris De Silva not into that kinda shit, he doh be mout piece for anyone.
The father ied and dat is de issue.
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
People understand very well that Maund wants to play for HIS country.
It just appears that HIS country appears to be a matter of convenience for him and his father. In addition, the excuse about school used by the father to explain as a contributing factor as to why he chose USA over T&T simply doesn't fly.
Leh meh make an analogy if I might. Brendan Nash couldn't make Australia team...hell..he couldn't even make the first XI for a club in Australia but he comes to the WI after spending the vast majority of his professional cricketing career (at age 30) to the WI, plays one season and gets selected on the WI team. Wha yuh think West Indian's reaction would be if all of a sudden Australia come calling and Nash decide he goin and play for them instead?
De yute and he faddah doin what in dey best interests and good fuh dem. I wish dem well. Dey doh owe any explanation to anybody. But doh come on here tryin to sell we shit and sayin is sugar. Yuh proper deserve yuh cuss den.
:applause:
but nash soo old? :o
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
Hmmmmmm
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
It's readily apparent that plenty people here doh make posts based on intelligent reasoning. Is mostly inconsistent emotional outbursts regardless of the topic.
Both of you intelligent people have completely missed the point here.
I don't think anyone begrudges someone wanting to represent their land of birth. No one has said a bad word about the other Trini eligible player, Shannon Williams.
People are reacting to someone duplicitly placing self-interest above patriotism. The kid is american so he has the right to represent his homeland. However, when it served his interest, he was happy to ride the bandwaggon to the U-17 WC.
The fool here is his father for coming-up with a flimsy excuse for their decision.
They want to talk about intelligent people on this site well you're definitely one of them,well said my brother well said.....
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Ah still cah understand why people who over the years have shown that they are among the more intelligent forumites on here cah relate to ah man wanting to play for he country. Folks all yuh not sounding smart anymore.
People understand very well that Maund wants to play for HIS country.
It just appears that HIS country appears to be a matter of convenience for him and his father. In addition, the excuse about school used by the father to explain as a contributing factor as to why he chose USA over T&T simply doesn't fly.
Leh meh make an analogy if I might. Brendan Nash couldn't make Australia team...hell..he couldn't even make the first XI for a club in Australia but he comes to the WI after spending the vast majority of his professional cricketing career (at age 30) to the WI, plays one season and gets selected on the WI team. Wha yuh think West Indian's reaction would be if all of a sudden Australia come calling and Nash decide he goin and play for them instead?
De yute and he faddah doin what in dey best interests and good fuh dem. I wish dem well. Dey doh owe any explanation to anybody. But doh come on here tryin to sell we shit and sayin is sugar. Yuh proper deserve yuh cuss den.
Keep it coming palos plain talk no bullshit.It is what it is he used T&T. Look most of us have kids and education is paramount no matter where they live so doh come with them flimsy excuses.
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?????
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Allyuh tink dat yute know wey Copa and Villa is.........or he tink dem is football teams
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The timeline argument is grasping at straws. At the very least he was contacted before the team was assembled for preparation.
Unfortunately for you, you calling it 'grasping at straws' doesn't automatically make it so... unless you have some secret pipeline to inside information that the rest of us aren't privy to. Even assuming arguendo that you are correct that the family acted in a mercenary manner regarding the youth's self interest, how does that make any of you victims to the point that you feel so aggrieved? Far less aggrieved that some have called (be it in jest or not) for physical repercussions to the yute?
I keep saying it and it keeps falling on deaf ears... if anything the TTFF is the only victim here, they are the ones who were used, not the people of Trinidad and Tobago. The TTFF has time and time again made it clear that its interests are separate from the footballing public's. The TTFF treats players worse than the treatment allegedly meted out to it by this kid, if anything it's getting its just desserts.
...and that's just assuming that the mercenary angle ascribed to the family by you and others is correct, which we have no guarantee of.
I don't feel victimized or aggrieved at all. I'm simply calling a spade a spade, after I considered all the reports.
I have said that the calls for injury are out of bounds.
Maybe your brief with the TTFF outstrips anything else here. However, I stated that I based my view on what was publicly said by Mr De Silva, who I do not equate with the TTFF. I speak as a fan of TnT football, not a supporter of the TTFF.
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let dem puul dey ass
allyuh shoulda see after de tnt vz usa match when willams family in de crowd went and hand him 2 USA flags...and he running around with it...dat hurt more dan them shithounds blanking we
pull dey ass....
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let dem puul dey ass
allyuh shoulda see after de tnt vz usa match when willams family in de crowd went and hand him 2 USA flags...and he running around with it...dat hurt more dan them shithounds blanking we
pull dey ass....
all dem have trini accents except his lil sister and he have a fresh water
study he was in a la foucade camp with us liked 4 years ago... he played for Fatima... he came each day in a new boots..And his dad was a volunteer coach who was a shithong and he was a trini who lived in america...when i saw him in the Marvin Lee i was like wtf... but then everything made sense with his son Sherron was on the field
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When TTTF can pay for people children education tuition, then people can talk. I would have done the same thing.
So wait, USA paying for Maund education ?
Please explain...
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I read Mr. Maund's comments.
I will take him at his word when he says they were being ignored by the TTFF in terms of communication. Is this anything new? The Americans communicated professionally and had his respect. Surprising?
Put yourself in his shoes. It's your son. His ENTIRE FUTURE ON THE LINE. Which direction you heading in?
Some of us love TT to deat. It doesn't mean we are stupid.
I not having no Third World asshole f&%& with my son!!
Ppl say his original plan was always the US.
What was Shaka's original plan. What was Birchall's original plan?
We only end up with them, when their 'original plan' fail. But they always gave us 200% on the field and that is all I can ask of any player.
Young Maund got the chance to play for a superior footballing nation. A country that has outshone us for the last 20 years and is miles ahead of us in terms of organisation. If everybody on the TT sr. team was told 'you are eligible for the US and England come play for us in the qualifıers'. How many you think would stick around.
This PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. It might hurt us. but it eh no big deal. Happens every day. He didn't take nobody spot from TT on the team. Last time I checked. He went to trials and EARNED IT.
Good luck to young Maund.
Better luck to TT.
Peace,
VB
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Wonder if the TTFF was unprofessional when Maund first came to T&T. I am sure Maund had to make himself known a few times well. That time Mr Maund wasn't studing a lack of communication.
VB - Shaka or Birchall never used us. They may have had their hearts in different places, but they never used us.
Shaka told us no from a young age, he never used us to get on the England team and yes, he did turn to us when all failed and if I was the TTFF he would have stayed in England.
We have to have principals, then again, is de TTFF we dealing with.
Mr Maund did what he felt was right for his son and so be it. But dont expect me to support it.
I bet you Aaron Maund dont make a US side again. And I DONT WISH THAT.... but his chances was better with T&T.
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Wonder if the TTFF was unprofessional when Maund first came to T&T. I am sure Maund had to make himself known a few times well. That time Mr Maund wasn't studing a lack of communication.
VB - Shaka or Birchall never used us. They may have had their hearts in different places, but they never used us.
Shaka told us no from a young age, he never used us to get on the England team and yes, he did turn to us when all failed and if I was the TTFF he would have stayed in England.
We have to have principals, then again, is de TTFF we dealing with.
Mr Maund did what he felt was right for his son and so be it. But dont expect me to support it.
I bet you Aaron Maund dont make a US side again. And I DONT WISH THAT.... but his chances was better with T&T.
Of course it was why then did they diss us? He want 2 scrub bench 4 d nation of his birth I guess.
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Wonder if the TTFF was unprofessional when Maund first came to T&T. I am sure Maund had to make himself known a few times well. That time Mr Maund wasn't studing a lack of communication.
VB - Shaka or Birchall never used us. They may have had their hearts in different places, but they never used us.
Shaka told us no from a young age, he never used us to get on the England team and yes, he did turn to us when all failed and if I was the TTFF he would have stayed in England.
We have to have principals, then again, is de TTFF we dealing with.
Mr Maund did what he felt was right for his son and so be it. But dont expect me to support it.
I bet you Aaron Maund dont make a US side again. And I DONT WISH THAT.... but his chances was better with T&T.
Of course it was why then did they diss us? He want 2 scrub bench 4 d nation of his birth I guess.
i doh see what the fuss is all about nah...who de man peer group is? a handful of trinis who he never grow up with? he doh live in T&T and have no plans to do so in de near future ah sure, so he eh have no "backlash" to feel.
To Aaron and many others, scrubbin US pine is probably a far bigger pips than gettin a string a caps for T&T...is all about credibility and leverage yes when yuh studyin yuh pro career in de long-term, and maybe after we make a 2nd WC and build up some more ah dat we eh go have these kinda problems too often in de future...jes my shillingsworth.
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In a sense the US setup might provide what d TT setup cant or wont...........consistency, even if he consistently scrub bench, play, or get cut, he will be sure to have a consistent reason why/not can we say dat wit d TTFF where the power of one determines the direction of TT football. I am not supporting what d man did, but TTFF as an organization will always be a reason for person to weigh dey options............. is about elimanating dat little element of doubt, nothing else
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Wonder if the TTFF was unprofessional when Maund first came to T&T. I am sure Maund had to make himself known a few times well. That time Mr Maund wasn't studing a lack of communication.
VB - Shaka or Birchall never used us. They may have had their hearts in different places, but they never used us.
Shaka told us no from a young age, he never used us to get on the England team and yes, he did turn to us when all failed and if I was the TTFF he would have stayed in England.
We have to have principals, then again, is de TTFF we dealing with.
Mr Maund did what he felt was right for his son and so be it. But dont expect me to support it.
I bet you Aaron Maund dont make a US side again. And I DONT WISH THAT.... but his chances was better with T&T.
You have a point Sam. About the TTFF being unprofessional when Maund first came to T&T. That time Mr Maund wasn't studing a lack of communication or college.
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dis might be going off a lil bit, but why it is that we feel that the TTFF's apparent lack of organisation/professionalism and history of cuttin up real men is such a special ting?
Ah mean, for players from outside (1st gen trinibagonians, half-trinis, etc.) tryin to evaluate if they should chance a sweat in we colours - how much does the actual perception of wha kinda organisation the TTFF is come into play?
wha ah tryin to say is - is probably not even a factor, let alone the pivotal factor for, say, why a player fadder go decide not to take we calls no more? :devil:
i suspect dat the ttff is nutten special in that sense...every federation have its woes and vocal critics, much to de disadvantage of the national squads it oversees, but ah eh feel that it does affect the actual "pullin power" when is time for de player to make de choice.
de setup/administration could always change radically...performance on the world stage, not so much.
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In a sense the US setup might provide what d TT setup cant or wont...........consistency, even if he consistently scrub bench, play, or get cut, he will be sure to have a consistent reason why/not can we say dat wit d TTFF where the power of one determines the direction of TT football. I am not supporting what d man did, but TTFF as an organization will always be a reason for person to weigh dey options............. is about elimanating dat little element of doubt, nothing else
That aside... would you rather scrub bench for TnT or start for Grenada?
Not saying that's what's going thru his mind... I juss playing along.
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dis might be going off a lil bit, but why it is that we feel that the TTFF's apparent lack of organisation/professionalism and history of cuttin up real men is such a special ting?
Ah mean, for players from outside (1st gen trinibagonians, half-trinis, etc.) tryin to evaluate if they should chance a sweat in we colours - how much does the actual perception of wha kinda organisation the TTFF is come into play?
wha ah tryin to say is - is probably not even a factor, let alone the pivotal factor for, say, why a player fadder go decide not to take we calls no more? :devil:
i suspect dat the ttff is nutten special in that sense...every federation have its woes and vocal critics, much to de disadvantage of the national squads it oversees, but ah eh feel that it does affect the actual "pullin power" when is time for de player to make de choice.
de setup/administration could always change radically...performance on the world stage, not so much.
Yeah... is nutten special b/c every federation have a Jack Warner at it's helm. If you doh think people are aware of that man and his corruption then I dunno what to say about you. You's probably one ah dem men when Jack say bendover yuh does ask him "which shoelace untie?"
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In a sense the US setup might provide what d TT setup cant or wont...........consistency, even if he consistently scrub bench, play, or get cut, he will be sure to have a consistent reason why/not can we say dat wit d TTFF where the power of one determines the direction of TT football. I am not supporting what d man did, but TTFF as an organization will always be a reason for person to weigh dey options............. is about elimanating dat little element of doubt, nothing else
That aside... would you rather scrub bench for TnT or start for Grenada?
Not saying that's what's going thru his mind... I juss playing along.
I go sweat for Grenada cause we go beat JA. :devil:
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dis might be going off a lil bit, but why it is that we feel that the TTFF's apparent lack of organisation/professionalism and history of cuttin up real men is such a special ting?
Ah mean, for players from outside (1st gen trinibagonians, half-trinis, etc.) tryin to evaluate if they should chance a sweat in we colours - how much does the actual perception of wha kinda organisation the TTFF is come into play?
wha ah tryin to say is - is probably not even a factor, let alone the pivotal factor for, say, why a player fadder go decide not to take we calls no more? :devil:
i suspect dat the ttff is nutten special in that sense...every federation have its woes and vocal critics, much to de disadvantage of the national squads it oversees, but ah eh feel that it does affect the actual "pullin power" when is time for de player to make de choice.
de setup/administration could always change radically...performance on the world stage, not so much.
Yeah... is nutten special b/c every federation have a Jack Warner at it's helm. If you doh think people are aware of that man and his corruption then I dunno what to say about you. You's probably one ah dem men when Jack say bendover yuh does ask him "which shoelace untie?"
nah ah feel yuh gettin tie up in a big way - i never say Jack is not a world-class scapegoat, cause he is, and he work real hard for that rep :devil:
But if everytime we look poor on the pitch or a player choose England, de States or some other upper-quartile ranking team over us, we hadda bawl out "Jack" so like he physically assaultin we rectum???
dat gettin tired and sounding lke a crutch now...if is anything, why yuh doh say what outsiders like to accuse us of, namely that Jack "easin we passage" thru de rounds wherever possible? why a eligible player who considerin de RW+B doh study, well, de corruption on T&T side, cause Jack is dey GordFadda so that is a plus?
all i sayin is lewwe be more creative with de excuses sometimes nah
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Bamboo when an organisation doin shit is not the Head of that organisation is ultimately responsible for the performance
sure from a purely financial standpoint he does VERY well indeed
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Bamboo when an organisation doin shit is not the Head of that organisation is ultimately responsible for the performance
sure from a purely financial standpoint he does VERY well indeed
well de way i look at it, Jack here to stay so we hadda put pressure on somebody else, cause dais just spinnin top in isht right dey.
none ah we eh go get far railin against de ripper.
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Bamboo when an organisation doin shit is not the Head of that organisation is ultimately responsible for the performance
sure from a purely financial standpoint he does VERY well indeed
well de way i look at it, Jack here to stay so we hadda put pressure on somebody else, cause dais just spinnin top in isht right dey.
none ah we eh go get far railin against de ripper.
You are VERY right
but that doh stop me from tellin him that things dont have to be the way they are
He could STILL make all the money he making AND treat players RIGHT....not so
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Bamboo when an organisation doin shit is not the Head of that organisation is ultimately responsible for the performance
sure from a purely financial standpoint he does VERY well indeed
well de way i look at it, Jack here to stay so we hadda put pressure on somebody else, cause dais just spinnin top in isht right dey.
none ah we eh go get far railin against de ripper.
You are VERY right
but that doh stop me from tellin him that things dont have to be the way they are
He could STILL make all the money he making AND treat players RIGHT....not so
anybody who followin jack movements over de years go know dat making huge $tack$ through football + politricks is central to de man plans and he eh fraid to hold them to ransom, sometimes to one another - treating players fairly, well, ............................ ???
*If* some good football happen to knock in de meantime, den so much de better...! Is a win/win situation!
ah eh tink we need to get ah obeahman to come on de board to find out if Jack love up we footballers or not.
FPATT could only try an make sure that he doh buss de same tricks on players twice and move on....
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as you mention FPATT
where are they these days
I asked that question a few months ago
I hope that they are able to sign up many players
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Hartie..
Take note of the traitor.
We need player who are 100% committed to their country and not players who hearts in a different place.
Maund will never play for USA and ah hear he now wants to come back to T&T..
I know Hartie is no fool to call this guy up.
De man let we under 17 team do all de wok to get them into de world cup and then jump in and play 3 games and then ride out, taking Nicholas Walker and Trent Lougheed position who did all de hard wok to get their country there.
Leston Paul, DeSilva, Bateau, Cryus, Molino, Hyland and Mekeil real vex.
Maund dumps T&T
By Ian Prescott
Story Created: Feb 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM ECT
After starting all three preliminary matches for Trinidad and Tobago at the 2007 FIFA Under-17 World Cup in South Korea, connections of Aaron Maund stopped answering the phone calls from T&T once the United States came calling.
"I was in constant contact with his father until December. I had gotten his passport number and made arrangement for him to join us, then all communication stopped. His father stopped taking our calls. So, after four, five tries, I left a message stating that if they did not contact us, he would not be considered for the team," reported Chris De Silva, manager of the Trinidad and Tobago national under-20 squad, who are preparing for next month's CONCACAF qualifying tournament for the 2009 FIFA U20 World Cup in Egypt.
Maund was born in the United States and was a member of the US Under-14, Under-15 and Under-17 national pools of players, without ever making a national squad.
The 18-year-old Notre Dame defender is one of three children of Karen and Trinidadian father Arnott Maund.
After also failing to make the US squad for the 2007 Under-17 World Cup, Maund contacted Trinidad and Tobago, who he was eligible to play for due to ancestral heritage.
Now, he has changed nationality and has been named by American coach Thomas Rongen in his 20-man squad for the CONCACAF tournament.
FIFA, the governing body for world football, will now decide whether the 6ft 2inch defender will represent the United States at the CONCACAF Under-20 qualifying tournament which takes place in T&T from March 6-15 .
T&T manager De Silva sees no reason to block the move.
"This may be a blessing in disguise," De Silva said. "We want guys with big hearts playing for this country. We want guys who when we are down a goal will scrap and give their all for Trinidad and Tobago. This (Maund) is a boy who wanted to play for the USA, did not make it and so came to play for Trinidad and Tobago. It was we who took him to the World Cup."
Maund is now in camp with the US team which Rongen named this week. The American team came together on Tuesday for a five-day training camp before travelling to Bacolet, Tobago on March 2, where they will play three group games at the Dwight Yorke Stadium.
Of the 20 USA players, nine are currently professionals, with six in Major League Soccer and three overseas. The roster also features three players who were part of the US team that advanced to the quarter-finals of the 2007 FIFA U20 World Cup in Canada in midfielder Bryan Arguez, goalkeeper Brian Perk and defender Anthony Wallace.
A release from the US Soccer Federation (USSF) reported that Maund has been included pending FIFA approval.
"Notre Dame defender Aaron Maund will also be joining the team for training in Bradenton, but his addition to the final roster depends on whether he receives approval from FIFA to play for the United States after requesting a change in national association. Maund, who has dual citizenship with the US and Trinidad & Tobago, played in all three games for T&T in the 2007 FIFA Under-17 World Cup. Maund has submitted the necessary paperwork to change his national association to the United States and US Soccer is awaiting FIFA's decision. The final roster is required to be submitted to CONCACAF 48 hours before the opening game against Jamaica. If a decision is not reached by FIFA before that time, Rongen will name a replacement to the 20-player roster, " the USSF release stated.
Four CONCACAF teams will be final qualifiers for the 2009 FIFA U20 World Cup, with 20 other countries having already booked their place in Egypt.
Asia will send four representatives in Australia, Korea Republic, United Arab Emirates and Uzbekistan; while Africa will have five teams, including the hosts, as well as Cameroon, Ghana, Nigeria and South Africa.
The 2008 U19 European Championship served as the tournament that saw the Czech Republic, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy and Spain qualify.
Oceania send Tahiti to their first-ever world championship, while Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela will represent South America.
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
good talk... :beermug:
it have men on here that will spit in your face and not support their own trini, actually a large portion of the population because they on this foolish politricks vibe...
so if ttfa calling, take it with a grain of salt.. when they have a man like Gulati running our fed, then and only then you will be more assured..
right now local peeps cheap and jealous when it coming to sports and allowing the wrong people to run our fed, so we susceptible to people walking out because the damn fed unreliable
and that's putting it mildly..
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Glad this thread reappear so we can identify the hypocrites among us.
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Glad this thread reappear so we can identify the hypocrites among us.
and who really are the hypocrites?
most locals don't show any appreciation for their own, far less an ex pat with a lot to give to the nation, they become insecure and jealous, instead of working together and sharing ideas, a selfish vibe resides back home... close mindedness instead of open mindedness...
so when you say hypocrites among us, take a look in the mirror and what your politicians are doing to the nation first... and how they have destroyed our progress and society...
so I will say again and listen, until allyuh get your house in order, save the comments of hypocrites for afterwards...
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
STEUPS !!!!!
He played in de world cup for T&T, that didn't mess it up?
Allyuh good yes.
Who say to let your kids go and play in T&T for one year?? who say that?
Nah, is ok to let your teammates do all de hard work and then jump in and play 3 games and jump out on a next national team, thats ok.
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
good talk... :beermug:
it have men on here that will spit in your face and not support their own trini, actually a large portion of the population because they on this foolish politricks vibe...
so if ttfa calling, take it with a grain of salt.. when they have a man like Gulati running our fed, then and only then you will be more assured..
right now local peeps cheap and jealous when it coming to sports and allowing the wrong people to run our fed, so we susceptible to people walking out because the damn fed unreliable
and that's putting it mildly..
You talking about man spitting on locals while you degrading locals and want to bring Gulati to run the federation. At least you eh put forth a Canadian.
Anyway Gulati wouldn't know where to start in we Federation. What Gulati do that make you think he so special? He clueless.
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Glad this thread reappear so we can identify the hypocrites among us.
and who really are the hypocrites?
most locals don't show any appreciation for their own, far less an ex pat with a lot to give to the nation, they become insecure and jealous, instead of working together and sharing ideas, a selfish vibe resides back home... close mindedness instead of open mindedness...
so when you say hypocrites among us, take a look in the mirror and what your politicians are doing to the nation first... and how they have destroyed our progress and society...
so I will say again and listen, until allyuh get your house in order, save the comments of hypocrites for afterwards...
Let me reprimand and lecture you all from up here, the land of progress and democracy. You all good for nutten, unreasonable, gimme gimme, 10 days people. Let me tell you all how it is suppose to be. See up here everything is quality, the politicians go by another name that you all will not know the meaning of - Saints.
Look at me for example, I have the answer to all T&T problems, let me tell you. Sancho don't know anything, Rowley don't know anything, Kams know ah lil something cause she smart enough to come up here and hire ppl to help out you ungrateful bunch.
See how loudly, arrogantly and proudly I can speak from way up here. Listen to me, let me tell you how it is.
Stueps.
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Let me reprimand and lecture you all from up here, the land of progress and democracy. You all good for nutten, unreasonable, gimme gimme, 10 days people. Let me tell you all how it is suppose to be. See up here everything is quality, the politicians go by another name that you all will not know the meaning of - Saints.
Look at me for example, I have the answer to all T&T problems, let me tell you. Sancho don't know anything, Rowley don't know anything, Kams know ah lil something cause she smart enough to come up here and hire ppl to help out you ungrateful bunch.
See how loudly, arrogantly and proudly I can speak from way up here. Listen to me, let me tell you how it is.
Stueps.
You do a real good impression of yuhself when yuh talking about the TTFA... you need to take yuh act on de road.
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
good talk... :beermug:
it have men on here that will spit in your face and not support their own trini, actually a large portion of the population because they on this foolish politricks vibe...
so if ttfa calling, take it with a grain of salt.. when they have a man like Gulati running our fed, then and only then you will be more assured..
right now local peeps cheap and jealous when it coming to sports and allowing the wrong people to run our fed, so we susceptible to people walking out because the damn fed unreliable
and that's putting it mildly..
You talking about man spitting on locals while you degrading locals and want to bring Gulati to run the federation. At least you eh put forth a Canadian.
Anyway Gulati wouldn't know where to start in we Federation. What Gulati do that make you think he so special? He clueless.
your comprehension poor fellah, no wonder bakes does pong yuh from time to time for talking so much rubbish.. If you read properly, I was inferring to a man who is like Gulati but Trini, I never suggested Gulati himself come and run our football idiot... If I put forth a Canadian or American, they would be of trinbagonian roots and I know a few but they wouldn't come back home to fight up with fellahs like you and your ilk that would just stagnate the progress...
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Raise yuh hand up high if you'll allow your son to go to T&T for a year under de TTFF and train with the national team and loose his scholarship to Notre Dame. Raise it real high.
good talk... :beermug:
it have men on here that will spit in your face and not support their own trini, actually a large portion of the population because they on this foolish politricks vibe...
so if ttfa calling, take it with a grain of salt.. when they have a man like Gulati running our fed, then and only then you will be more assured..
right now local peeps cheap and jealous when it coming to sports and allowing the wrong people to run our fed, so we susceptible to people walking out because the damn fed unreliable
and that's putting it mildly..
You talking about man spitting on locals while you degrading locals and want to bring Gulati to run the federation. At least you eh put forth a Canadian.
Anyway Gulati wouldn't know where to start in we Federation. What Gulati do that make you think he so special? He clueless.
your comprehension poor fellah, no wonder bakes does pong yuh from time to time for talking so much rubbish.. If you read properly, I was inferring to a man who is like Gulati but Trini, I never suggested Gulati himself come and run our football idiot... If I put forth a Canadian or American, they would be of trinbagonian roots and I know a few but they wouldn't come back home to fight up with fellahs like you and your ilk that would just stagnate the progress...
Well yuh know I don't have an education from the Tundra. My ilk...lol.
So seeing that alyuh or people you know, don't want to come home and work with lesser people, why not just support the other Reds and leave our "ilk" alone. Surely you will be accepted into the fold clan.
You vex because I defending Trini people.
Daiz why alyuh does have to fight up when alyuh come home. The level or arrogance and condescension alyuh does have towards people home so intense, they does have to move rel left with alyuh.
But keep beating we over the head with how stupid we are.
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Let me reprimand and lecture you all from up here, the land of progress and democracy. You all good for nutten, unreasonable, gimme gimme, 10 days people. Let me tell you all how it is suppose to be. See up here everything is quality, the politicians go by another name that you all will not know the meaning of - Saints.
Look at me for example, I have the answer to all T&T problems, let me tell you. Sancho don't know anything, Rowley don't know anything, Kams know ah lil something cause she smart enough to come up here and hire ppl to help out you ungrateful bunch.
See how loudly, arrogantly and proudly I can speak from way up here. Listen to me, let me tell you how it is.
Stueps.
You do a real good impression of yuhself when yuh talking about the TTFA... you need to take yuh act on de road.
Well I can open up for you. After all, there's no bigger Diva than you - Bey.
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Crying down this youth makes no sense.
He didnt get the call for the U17 USA team but could have gone with T&T....why not?!
and for the U17 setup i think he wasnt in college yet.
For all we know even while in high school, the travelling back and forth might have taken its toll.
and Notre Dame is a big name school.
Imagine if he did stick it out with T&T, that travelling back and forth would mean missing key games for his school, class and probably his spot with the college team.
And then i hear ppl say if his father was patriotic he would have gotten his son to make the trips????
Ya'll cant be serious
USA probably stepped in, schmoozed and chain him up
better quality facilities and team
why not?! n dont have to travel so much????
it's not his pops decision in the end.
Trinis hating too much imo
unfortunate that he didnt play for us but he has to look out for himself and probably was the best decision in the end
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That's fine, but don't asked to come back then.
He is a premadona.
He didn't get a US call, then took T&T and then gone back to US and now wants to come back.
We are second best.
If he loves his birth country its all good but he should focus on getting on the US team.
He is not doing well in MLS anyway, they loan him out.
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Cannot find the thread a girlfriend of mines niece came and offered to pay for us. Talk bout stress they calling today for tomorrow but she must just stop school and come. THE TTFA CYAH RUN A PARLOUR.
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In the last month or so Maund has managed to establish himself as a starter for Real Salt Lake. He looks on course to have his strongest season yet in the league.
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time to leave this guy alone aubrey david made a switch for the guyanese senior team!!!!!!!!!!! now he back on board .. if maunds want to rejoin fine with me ... once he is good enough ...
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time to leave this guy alone aubrey david made a switch for the guyanese senior team!!!!!!!!!!! now he back on board .. if maunds want to rejoin fine with me ... once he is good enough ...
Like yuh eat f00cking ganga channa for breakfast or wha.
F00ck Maund and if you down with Maund f00ck you to.
He will never play again for a national team again.
Traitors is a big crime in my books, ah radda be a thief.
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so let him go and play for who he wants.. don't beg any player...
if you want to play for TT, you will come and play, i agree that our fed is terrible and very disorganized but hopefully that is changing... if you waiting for a utopian type of environment well you will be waiting for at least another year, god willing..
it's almost like that woman who is only there when things are good, but not when things are bad... the best ones are there when things are good or bad because of love, passion and commitment to the nation.. something to keep in mind
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I open to anybody who could strengthen the team. Allyuh could fill up with false pride and shoot off yuh toe if you want. We are not any talented foreigner's first choice. Don't care.
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I open to anybody who could strengthen the team. Allyuh could fill up with false pride and shoot off yuh toe if you want. We are not any talented foreigner's first choice. Don't care.
and why is that??? inferiority complex??? selfish??? what is the reason for that???
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Doh let zeppo rile allyuh up.
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
He has never played for the U.S. senior team in a FIFA competitive match, so he is still eligible to play for T&T.
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
He has never played for the U.S. senior team in a FIFA competitive match, so he is still eligible to play for T&T.
In his youth days, he represented Trinidad and Tobago's U-17 team but filed his one-time switch to play for the United States at the 2009 U-20 World Cup thereby tying him permanently to the United States internationally. (http://www.fullvolley.com/content.php?mode=show&id=10549)
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
He has never played for the U.S. senior team in a FIFA competitive match, so he is still eligible to play for T&T.
In his youth days, he represented Trinidad and Tobago's U-17 team but filed his one-time switch to play for the United States at the 2009 U-20 World Cup thereby tying him permanently to the United States internationally. (http://www.fullvolley.com/content.php?mode=show&id=10549)
i heard anton corneal said he is still eligible as he has not played for the senior team some years ago
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
He has never played for the U.S. senior team in a FIFA competitive match, so he is still eligible to play for T&T.
In his youth days, he represented Trinidad and Tobago's U-17 team but filed his one-time switch to play for the United States at the 2009 U-20 World Cup thereby tying him permanently to the United States internationally. (http://www.fullvolley.com/content.php?mode=show&id=10549)
It good.
Ah so glad, he own country f00ck him up after he turn his back on us.
We do not need uncommitted and ungrateful players.
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if maunds want to rejoin fine with me
He can't. He filed a one-time switch to play for the USA.
He has never played for the U.S. senior team in a FIFA competitive match, so he is still eligible to play for T&T.
In his youth days, he represented Trinidad and Tobago's U-17 team but filed his one-time switch to play for the United States at the 2009 U-20 World Cup thereby tying him permanently to the United States internationally. (http://www.fullvolley.com/content.php?mode=show&id=10549)
i heard anton corneal said he is still eligible as he has not played for the senior team some years ago
Then Corneal needs to review the FIFA rules. There's a reason it's called a one-time switch.