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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flex on October 02, 2005, 11:25:25 AM
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From an overall stand point, who do you feel did more for Trinbago.
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WHO VOTED FOR PANDAY MUST BE ON CRACK ; the father of them all is Eric Williams; a man of principles who took us from a mental enslavery to the world of possibilities. A man who created a multi ethnic and multi diverse party in the face of rising racial strife from Capeldeo and the DLP.
In the initial party structure; Eric Williams had Kamaludin Mohammed, Mahabir;Â in his party stuructre.
How could one put Pandey in the same class; a man who made public proclamations to divide the country along racial lines and if people research his Union roots you would find his aversion to non indians. A man who proclaimed he would sleep with the devil to acclaim power.
Like I said  for Pandey to achieve these votes people have to be of a persuasion or of an age group who did not live through the turmoils of forging a country when the colonial powers vacated the land and the wealth. They left with no supportive or transitional structures ; we inherited a goverance and a system of doing things and it was trial by error.
Those who came after have sat on the sidelines and critisized all their lives; when they came into power it was endless corruption and appointments; The government has been in shambles since then and the struggles to recovery has been marked by an oppositon whose willingness to oppose change is bent soley on bringing about the demise of the government only to seek a self adoration and thirst for power. Is this the man we want to rally our leadership around? Is this the man to take us to new heights?
Peopel need to be informed electorates rather than ones who have been roused by emotional appeal and by the ignorance of racial strife. One nation One people under the sun must ressurect the sense of unity and togetherness so as to forge new bonds in moving this country out of the economic , social, cultural doldurms which we now find ourselves. EMPHATICALLY PANDAY IS NOT THE MAN FOR THIS TASK!!!!
It matters little the ethnic background of our leaders, what matters most is their ability to advocated fo the individual citizen regardless of racial origin. For years Forbes Burham ruled Guyana country with the reverse in population demographics to Trinidad; then Chedii Jargan ho this wish to lead. These leaders have long gone but the population those of today are trying as they like to embroil the populos into a corrisive thinking that would send us back as oppose to put on a progressive path. SAY NO TO PANDAY!!!!!!!
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Alberta,
If I follow the news correct....I doh think Panday leading the UNC into the next election. I think it supposed to be Dookeran pending the outcome of some party election.
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dcs,
ah hearing and reading similar news. I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread. For those who in their opinion voted for Panday, over Eric Williams.
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I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread.
FYI..... I didn't vote..... I normally dont when I post a poll and, if I did then it's none of your dam concerned or business, I could dam well vote for who I want as any one here...
AlbertaTrini, if you have a personal problem with me or my posts, send me a message and we shall clear it up. If you continue to accuse me or, attack me in any form or sort in public then you will leave me no choice but to take further actions, consider this my "last" warning to you.
I allow many to post as they like without interfering to much, please refrain as this is just another topic for many to voice their opinion and so on. You have something against Mr. Panday (I could careless about any Politican), so be it, that's your view and that's what this thread is all about, for people to voice their opinion about the topic at hand.
Next time please take your sarcastic/personal attacks where you take your check or find something else in Canada to do if you have to much time on your hands.
>:(
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To Albert Trini- I am not quite sure what your riff is but apparently hickville,Alberta must be real nice and cold
1 WHO VOTED FOR PANDAY MUST BE ON CRACK FROM INDIA!!!!!
Whether you respect or disrespect a politician I cannot understand where the ANALOGY "CRACK FROM INDIA" comes from.
2the father of them all is Eric Williams; a man of principles who took us from a mental enslavery to the world of possibilities. A man who created a multi ethnic and multi diverse party in the face of rising racial strife from Capeldeo and the DLP.
-Didnt Eric Williams also call Indians a RECALCITRANT PEOPLE. ????
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AlbertaTrini !!! I vote for Panday, do me something yuh stinking mother c**t....
f**k PNM, f**k Patrick Manning and f**k Grenadian lover Eric Williams...
Do me something.....
Yuh jackass and a half.....
Calling man crack head from India, yuh f**king baggie head from Camaroon.. how de f**k India come in this.... we is Trini, f**k India and Africa... yuh ass hole....
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Classic example of politics dividing the people.
Flex, I don't think that Alberta was saying that you voted for Panday. I think he was listing the originator (you), and the people who voted for panday as the two different sets of people he was addressing his post towards.
That being said- Alberta, in your attempt to be eloquent by typing a boat load of fluff, you really said nothing.......Thanks for the semi-literate pep rally speech but you succeeded to do nothing more than spew hate. The poll asked who you opine on who did the most for the country....Such a question doesn't warrant you to make such disrespectful judgements on the morals of people who have as much the right to have an opinion as you do....People are people and perpectives will differ...
But if you believe that attacking the character of men equal to you in a rediculous rant and rave is going to gain your opinion any respect, you are way behind the game............Those same people will see you as nothing more than an idiot....
Did Eric Williams teach you that ?
Tells us what happened with the GDP, Inflation, Unemployment, the Budget deficit, the Balance of Trade......Tell us what he did for the community, how he raised social awareness, what he did with the defense force and crime etc......give us some stats on those political and social issues and then give us your opinion.....that would gain your opinion respect..
Save the rant and rave for the soca monarch
State facts if you know any, and give an educated opinion. It's that simple.
Latapy for President !!
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Beenhakker for Prime Minister.
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Wayyysss.
Allyuh need to cool out.
It too early in this thread for allyuh to get on bad so.
No discussion take place about comparing the men yet propaganda running the route.
Allyuh really swear by them politicians enough to fall out.
Nah man.
I eh like this Flex Alberta fall out nah.....allyuh fix dat behind the scenes nah.
ALberta shud be free to say what he want even if is wrangling with the moderators in a triniman vs. TrueTrini styling.
For blasted politicians. Nah man.
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Flex, I don't think that Alberta was saying that you voted for Panday. I think he was listing the originator (you), and the people who voted for panday as the two different sets of people he was addressing his post towards.
Alberta only mentioned the words "originator of the thread" to explain to DCS why he was saying say no to Panday and not Dookeran because Panday's name was the one inlcuded in the poll.  Then he mentions those who voted for Panday in a seperate sentence. I don't see any personal attack on Flex in that ???
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SHOTTA FOR PRESIDENT
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Flex, I don't think that Alberta was saying that you voted for Panday. I think he was listing the originator (you), and the people who voted for panday as the two different sets of people he was addressing his post towards.
Alberta only mentioned the words "originator of the thread" to explain to DCS why he was saying say no to Panday and not Dookeran because Panday's name was the one inlcuded in the poll.  Then he mentions those who voted for Panday in a seperate sentence. I don't see any personal attack on Flex in that ???
Agreed..........
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Flex, I don't think that Alberta was saying that you voted for Panday. I think he was listing the originator (you), and the people who voted for panday as the two different sets of people he was addressing his post towards.
Alberta only mentioned the words "originator of the thread" to explain to DCS why he was saying say no to Panday and not Dookeran because Panday's name was the one inlcuded in the poll.  Then he mentions those who voted for Panday in a seperate sentence. I don't see any personal attack on Flex in that ???
Agreed..........
Ah out ahda !!!
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Flex, I don't think that Alberta was saying that you voted for Panday. I think he was listing the originator (you), and the people who voted for panday as the two different sets of people he was addressing his post towards.
Alberta only mentioned the words "originator of the thread" to explain to DCS why he was saying say no to Panday and not Dookeran because Panday's name was the one inlcuded in the poll.  Then he mentions those who voted for Panday in a seperate sentence. I don't see any personal attack on Flex in that ???
Gotta agree....Flex I think u took AT's comments out of context...You real "flex" yuhself dey yess.
Damn...u do something I didn't think was possible...u shut up Alberta Trini... ;)
One more thing...Eric and Panday both full of shit....THAT is thier legacy.
VB
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dcs,
ah hearing and reading similar news. I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread. For those who in their opinion voted for Panday, over Eric Williams.
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My initial response is directed to the 'POLL not the preson who posted it!!!! Let's make that critically clear.It asked who did more for Trinibago: I stated my response. One cultural malise we have is an inability to discuss politics in an objective way with out personalizing it to ethnicity.
In my closing statement I said: It matters little the ethnic background of our leaders, what matters most is their ability to advocated fo the individual citizen regardless of racial origin.
I am simply expressing my views about one of the individuals in the polls. In no way am I directing any disparaging remarks to the person who created the POLL. As a matter of fact, I believe that it is worthy of discussion. My reaction to the results is based on the number of votes one could muster despite the perceived ill intentions. I could have said the same for Manning but he did not even registered a vote at that time.
So before folks overreact, lets get objective and present views in a manner that it is intended. Furthermore, I am not psychic, to know individual's political affinities; nor would that matter to me one way or the other. It does not divide me from that individual nor does it alter my quality of life in any way. A person may vote out of their own volition for a party or political leader.
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Alberta
The issue that people had with your post was the line where you mentioned people on crack from india.....
Please comment on that.....and why the referrence to india.......
On one hand you seem to admonish racism, and then you used what seemed to be a racist pun to insult people who voted for a prime minister of indian decent.
You also talked about people being emotionally influenced in their choice of political party, and yet your post came off like a pure pep rally speech......very little fact and substance....and an overabundance of useless emotional fluff.
Think about that and then you might understand why you sounded like a fool (hypocritical too)........
and why people had a big issue with your post..
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Kicker,
In response to your comments not that I have personally called anyone a 'fool' nor have I directed any personal attacks at you. Have you ever considered the notion of Hyperbole? Have you ever heard of Crack being associated with India? so you need to contextualize the opening of any editorial as a'shocker' to entice and aroue the emotions of the reader.
Secondly, to say that the anology had a racial bias is pure speculative. If Manning was leading in the poll, I could have invariably said 'Crack from Africa'!! On the other hand if you considered that some of those who voted for the said individual may not be of the same ethnicity as that politician, would the opening make a differance?
Even though some of our political parties may have a certain proclivity for voters along ethnic lines, in a nation like Trinidad, the voting results indicate that not everyone vote according to the leader's ethnicity. A multiethnic nation cannot survive on political principles which are based on that types of premise. It would be disaster and utterly ludicrous.
To chastised my posting is a matter of your perogative; to chastise me the person without knowing who I am is another. However , thi sis always the case when one goes with views in a public forum. The irony here is that had Manning being out front in this poll at the given time, I more than likely would have shared my opinions on his leadership.
I fail to see the analogy of a 'pep rally' as you stated. And reflect on my intent.... I did not say no to the political affliation of the individual but No to the said individual. .Thanks for taking the time to seek clarity.
P.S. you allude to 'emotional stuff' the question asked who do you FEEL...... not to substantiate by facts and research which leader did the most. So what if yuh eh argree with meh feelings?
I have no malice for anyone and ah have no heart feelings aganist anyone. Ah live peacefully with everyone; if we cyar argree on a leader so be it; you have your views I have mine; at the end of the day it will not change who you are nor will I disrespect you.
Thanks
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:rotfl: Look like is good friday
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Kicker,
In response to your comments not that I have personally called anyone a 'fool' nor have I directed any personal attacks at you. Have you ever considered the notion of Hyperbole? Have you ever heard of Crack being associated with India? so you need to contextualize the opening of any editorial as a'shocker' to entice and aroue the emotions of the reader.
Secondly, to say that the anology had a racial bias is pure speculative. If Manning was leading in the poll, I could have invariably said 'Crack from Africa'!! On the other hand if you considered that some of those who voted for the said individual may not be of the same ethnicity as that politician, would the opening make a differance?
Even though some of our political parties may have a certain proclivity for voters along ethnic lines, in a nation like Trinidad, the voting results indicate that not everyone vote according to the leader's ethnicity. A multiethnic nation cannot survive on political principles which are based on that types of premise. It would be disaster and utterly ludicrous.
To chastised my posting is a matter of your perogative; to chastise me the person without knowing who I am is another. However , thi sis always the case when one goes with views in a public forum. The irony here is that had Manning being out front in this poll at the given time, I more than likely would have shared my opinions on his leadership.
I fail to see the analogy of a 'pep rally' as you stated. And reflect on my intent.... I did not say no to the political affliation of the individual but No to the said individual. .Thanks for taking the time to seek clarity.
P.S. you allude to 'emotional stuff' the question asked who do you FEEL...... not to substantiate by facts and research which leader did the most. So what if yuh eh argree with meh feelings?
I have no malice for anyone and ah have no heart feelings aganist anyone. Ah live peacefully with everyone; if we cyar argree on a leader so be it; you have your views I have mine; at the end of the day it will not change who you are nor will I disrespect you.
Thanks
I never called you a fool. I proposed a reason why you "sounded" like a fool....
W.R.T. your "crack from india" line.....justify it as you wish....it was insensitive....provoke as you may, but remember you get what you give.
You ended your post with "SAY NO TO PANDAY", and still fail to understand my pep-rally analogy.....have you ever been to a pep rally ?
I am in no way chastising you. I chastise your post. But I shouldn't expect anything else, as your "provoking of reactions" simply mirrors a common Trini trait used in politics- instead of dealing with issues, and justifying a position by facts, we just feed our audiences with diarrhea and hope they digest it with ignorance. (how's that for some figurative language ?)
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Very interesting reading for those who dare. My fellow Trinbagonians, I hope that we have moved from a past and legacy of divisiveness and we do not allow leaders who are bent solely on acquiring personal power to manipulate our thinking for their own personal gains.
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                     The Road to Independence
Caribbean Islands Table of Contents
Self-government was gradually increased between 1946 and 1961. The elections of those years served as dress rehearsals for independence. From 1946 to 1955, East Indians were the best organized group in Trinidad and Tobago. Comprising only 35 percent of the population in 1946, East Indians united under the leadership of Bhadese S. Maraj and won almost half of the elected seats in the Legislative Council that year. They used their votes to finally secure the legal right to marry and bury their dead according to Hindu and Muslim rites. Since their arrival in Trinidad more than a century earlier, many East Indians had been classified as illegitimate because no unregistered marriage was considered legal for inheritance purposes (see Population, this ch.).
Political parties remained fragmented in the 1950 elections, often united, as one historian has put it, by nothing more than a "common passion for the spoils of office." One hundred forty-one candidates contested the eighteen elected seats; the single largest bloc of seats on the Legislative Council, eight out of twenty-six, was captured by an alliance between the "Butler party" and East Indian leaders. The British and the non-East Indians disliked the idea of having Butler and his supporters come to power. After the 1950 elections, none of Butler's party was chosen to sit on the Executive Council, the result being that Gomes practically ran the government. Within the restrictions of his semiautonomous government, Gomes tried to function as a mediator between capital and labor and to placate both Britain and Trinidad and Tobago. He had limited success, however, and constitutional reform was postponed until 1955, with elections scheduled for the following year.
The election of 1956 was a watershed in the political history of Trinidad and Tobago because it determined the course of the country for the next thirty years. Gomes was defeated, and a new party, the PNM, captured power and held it until 1986. PNM founder and leader Eric Williams dominated the political scene from 1956 until his death in 1981.
Williams was a native Trinidadian who had spent almost twenty years abroad in Britain and the United States. Although his family was poor, Williams had received a very good education by winning scholarships and had earned a First Class Oxford degree. Williams's academic prowess set the standard for all Trinidadian and Tobagonian political leaders through the late 1980s. While at Oxford, Williams was subjected to a number of racial slights, and he also suffered racial discrimination when he worked for the Anglo-American Caribbean Commission in Washington from 1948 to 1955, an organization created in 1942 to coordinate nonmilitary aspects of Caribbean policy. This discrimination profoundly and permanently affected Williams's outlook on life and his politics. He was a man who knew himself to be the intellectual equal of educated people in Oxford, London, and Washington, and he felt that he had not been accepted as such. Returning to Trinidad in 1948 as deputy chairman of the Caribbean Research Council of the Caribbean Commission, Williams involved himself in cultural, educational, and semipolitical activities and became well known. In 1956 he decided to enter politics and to forge a political party, the PNM. The PNM was created by middle-class professionals who were mainly but not exclusively black. Its main support came from the black community, although Williams was also able to attract some whites and East Indians. Williams gained a public constituency and a loyal party following by giving lectures in Woodford Square, the main square in Port-of-Spain. His lectures on Caribbean history were attended by thousands, and Williams dubbed his interaction with the crowd the "University of Woodford Square." There, Williams forged a bond with the people that remained even after his death twenty-five years later. Trinidadians and Tobagonians were proud to have an international scholar in their midst. Williams gave them a sense of national pride and confidence that no other leader was able to match. His charisma and leadership made it possible for the new party to be independent from existing political organizations and from trade unions. PNM leaders envisioned a broad national party that would include both capitalists and laborers; as such, the PNM rejected socialism and welcomed foreign capital investment.
In 1956 the PNM captured a slim majority of the elected seats on the Legislative Council, receiving 39.8 percent of the vote. Butler's party and the TLP split the other elected seats. The British governor, who controlled five appointed seats and two ex officio seats, filled all of these with men acceptable to the PNM, thus giving the party a majority of two-thirds of the seats on the Legislative Council. Because the British were hoping to form a Caribbean federation or, as a second choice, to launch viable independent countries, it was in their interest to support Williams, a charismatic black leader who had founded a strong political party, who had international education and experience, and who believed in private domestic and foreign investment. Between 1956 and 1962, Williams consolidated his political base and resolved two very important issues: federation and the presence of United States bases on Trinidad.
The British created the West Indies Federation in 1958 (see The West Indies Federation, 1958-62, ch. 1). During the next four years, ten island nations, including Trinidad and Tobago, struggled without success to make the federation into a government. The two largest nations, Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica, had opposing viewpoints; the former advocated a strong federal government, whereas the latter preferred a weak one. Trinidad and Tobago, with its higher revenues, preferred representation according to financial contribution, but Jamaica, with its larger population, wanted representation on the basis of population. After Jamaica decided in September 1961 not to remain in the federation, Trinidad and Tobago also decided to withdraw, not wishing to be tied to eight small, poor islands for which it would be financially responsible.
Despite British assistance and Williams's compelling personality, the PNM did not come to rule Trinidad and Tobago without a struggle. A number of groups united to oppose the PNM in the federal elections of 1958 under the banner of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP). Once again the campaign became racially polarized as the DLP attracted the East Indians and others who were left out of the PNM. East Indians felt that their cultural identity might be lost if they did not stick together. They deplored marriages between East Indians and blacks because they considered blacks to have an inferior culture; East Indians were less hostile to marriage with whites. Blacks also looked with disfavor on intermarriage with East Indians. In addition, the East Indian middle class, which had developed since the 1930s, seemed a threat to the black professionals who were just coming to power. The PNM increased its share of the vote in the 1958 election from 39.8 percent in 1956 to 48 percent; under the winner-take-all rule, however, the DLP won 6 out of the 10 contested seats, as most of its victories came in regions where the East Indians had an absolute majority.
The PNM profited from the British policy of granting increasing self-government to Trinidad and Tobago. Cabinet government was introduced in 1959; the governor no longer presided over the Executive Council, the Executive Council and chief minister were renamed cabinet and premier (the preindependence title for prime minister), and the premier had the right to appoint and dismiss ministers. Mindful of their slim majority in the 1958 election, leaders of the PNM determined to take whatever steps were necessary to win the 1961 elections and be the party to lead Trinidad and Tobago into independence. The PNM decided to use the issue of the withdrawal of the United States from the Chaguaramas naval base to unify the country and solidify their political base. In party rallies in 1959 and 1960, Williams pledged that the flag of Trinidad and Tobago would soon fly over Chaguaramas and also declared independence from Britain and from the 1941 Lend-Lease Agreement. Declaring that Trinidad and Tobago would not exchange British colonialism for the United States variety, Williams rallied the country to oust the United States from Chaguaramas and to support the PNM.
When British prime minister Harold Macmillan came to Port-of- Spain in June 1960, he told the government that he would open negotiations between the United States and Trinidad and Tobago over Chaguaramas and that Trinidad and Tobago would be an independent participant. Once Williams had won the right for Trinidad and Tobago to sit as an equal with the United States and Britain, he cooled his anti-imperialist rhetoric. The December 1960 settlement gave the United States base rights until 1977 and granted Trinidad and Tobago US$30 million in United States Agency for International Development assistance money for road construction and education. The United States closed the naval base at Chaguaramas in 1967 (see Historical Background, ch. 7).
The December 1961 election, which took place after Trinidad and Tobago had received full internal self-government within the West Indies Federation, was characterized by the use of racial appeals by both parties. The main constitutional issue was the drawing of electoral boundaries. Pro-PNM supporters broke up DLP meetings with stone throwing; the government declared a state of emergency in areas where East Indians were a majority and called out 3,000 police. The PNM used its government leadership to good advantage. Responding to labor unrest, Williams gave all government workers a raise during the summer of 1961. He also moved politically to the right, purging some left-wing supporters who had been prominent in the Chaguaramas fight. The PNM profited from the fact that the DLP was not a unified party. Its leader, Maraj, had been ill, and younger East Indians felt that his lack of education was a liability when contrasted with Williams. During the DLP political infighting, the new generation of East Indian professionals chose R.N. Capildeo, a high-caste Hindu, to head the DLP. Although Capildeo was highly educated, a Ph.D. and a fully qualified barrister, he lacked Williams's ability to appeal to the masses. Eighty-eight percent of the voters turned out for the December 1961 election; in a vote that largely followed ethnic lines, Williams and the PNM won with 57 percent. Reflecting the ethnic split, Williams filled the twelve cabinet slots with eight blacks, two whites, and two East Indians--one Christian and one Muslim. Appointees for the newly created Senate followed similar lines. As Trinidad and Tobago faced independence, the black middle class was firmly in power.
Caribbean Islands Table of Contents
Source: U.S. Library of Congress
(http://countrystudies.us/caribbean-islands/40.htm)
For further reading, you may find this interesting: http://www.guyana.org/features/conflicts_indiansandblacks.html
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On a lighter note..how come nobody vote for Chambers?
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Albert Trini- I wouldnt dare ask you your age...As I am already so incensed...the political/racial discourse you have presented is from the past and you are trying to play it off as today. If this is the belief of some Trinidadians living abroad, I can now see why our communities will continue to breed hate amongst our people in Trinidad. Older people teach there young of hate...You Albert Trini for all yuh write and the intellectual mumbo jumbo, you have failed to answer the question of why you found it CASUAL(without much thought) to attack another race....I wonder if in Alberta, yuh does go and eat doubles and hangout with yuh Trini Indian partners and attack them about there Indian Heritage. I wonder if you does talk to dem about BACK AH DAY and MARABELLA. Man stick to what you know about FOOTBALL...yuh like to motivate d national team ....well yuh should be showing that type of togetherness with yuh Indian and Negro brothers. You learn in Canada about Multiculturalism yet yuh know thats now how it works in Canada, on d surface it like that...We as Trinidadian people whether yuh have political affiliations or beliefs I say MORE POWER to you, lambasting any POLITICIAN is fine but also a CLASS of people is a different can or worms...". At the end of the day...we all want Trinidad to qualify for d world cup so dont create another ANTS PATCH....
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I think all you guys (arrow, VB and dsc) have it wrong.... Alberta Trini directed part to the originator of this thread, read the post again. I think this beef was a build up from the last time when Flex told him to keep all the football scores in one thread and AT didn't like it, so he came back in an in-direct approach to make Flex look bad and this thread was a perfect excuse to do so, read his reply below, not the first reply he made but the one he replied dsc after..
dcs,
ah hearing and reading similar news. I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread. For those who in their opinion voted for Panday, over Eric Williams.
KEY WORD: I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread.....
And why did he have to call Indians born in T&T crack heads from India because they or some may vote for Panday. Why did he have to go so far....
PS: Flex and Tallman is of two different race, but both from Trinbago and they pull together on this forum for us and T&T football, that should say a lot.... Unity is strength...
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Sando,
You are dead wrong!!!!!! You are asumining that all who voted for the siad individual is of the same ethnicity.
The comment was directed at the POLL.
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WOW.. LETS Love one ah nodda... damn!!
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KEY WORD: I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread.....
Dat mus be de longest key word in the dictionary
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KEY WORD: I was responding to the poll posed by the originator of this thread.....
Dat mus be de longest key word in the dictionary
haha....and I thought it was supercalafragalisticespialadocious.
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jah like i iz de only man who like patrick :beermug:
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I have the solution! Let us all join in a chorus of "Time Fuh Germany", come on now let us sing:
"Gimme d Red, White , and Black" ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laaarrrrd! This is tension before one of the most important fixtures on the Germany Campaign Calendar, I hope this divison here is not symbolic of anything to do with the warriors. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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haha .......yes boss !!!!
...sometimes we hadda fight a lil bit to get it right.....iz all for the love of T&T in the end (I hope)
............and we all backin' the warriors 100%...ah singin' the chorus "Time fuh Germany"
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Just for the record, both AlbertaTrini and I cleared this up via "personal message" and this is what I have to say now....
RE: Sorry for the misunderstanding AlbertaTrini, I ask that you be more specific or clearer in your post in regards to the moderators. When you said "I was responding to the poll posed by the  originator of this thread" I taught you aimed it at me....
Once again, sorry for the misunderstanding...
Continue doing your stuff and thanks for all your contributions to the SW Online.
Regards..
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Flex I never knew you were Indian, you always just sounded Human to me. Yeh thats it A Trini Human but wait I is a Indian too. I is a West Indian. Look like all ah wee is Indian. Big up all meh Indian brethren, man like Tank, man like River Dog, man like SpoonHead and de rest of de massive. Alberta, I don take de Trini out yuh name stop eat doubles and chinese food nah. eat only what yuh mammy did use to gey yuh wen yuh did small. You wouldn't want to be viewed as a hypocrite amongst the socialites and we are watching you.....
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Flex,
And to any others who felt slighted by the " wisecrack," it was an erroneous miscalculations on the impact and the receptivity that one may perceive it to be. If people were faulted , then I stand accused of a grevious error in judgement.
I stand again and again that the intent were the POLL results and not a personal attack on anyone. Continued success to all.
I have not met anyone in here nor do I know anyone personally. As far as I am concerned we are one people with a common purpose, resolve and passion; TNT ; the Warriors are close to our hearts and when we are shaken, like a 'jap' nest we react. Rightly so we are strong in our heritage, our land and who we are as people.
I applaude those who responded in athoughtful and mindful fashion; I cannot control the emotional nor will I subject myself to responding to lewd or public humiliation and 'cussing' of my mother's anatomy. So carry on and : together we aspire together we achieve.
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jah like i iz de only man who like patrick :beermug:
You might be right and what a lost soul you are. Check this out!!!
Dear Mr Prime Minister,
I begin by stating the following:
1. I will be receiving a tax relief of approximately $400 per month as a result the tax reforms contained in the Budget.
2. I voted against Mr Panday in the last general elections which was basically a vote for you by default.
Now that the above is clear, I wish to give some reasons why I will be voting against you and your party at the next elections:
- To this date, some 15 years later, you have not condemned the attempted coup of 1990.
- The Muslimeen has been given an opportunity under your Government to operate a quarry in Valencia illegally.
- A lot of the crime in our country appears to be linked to the Muslimeen.
- The State has not pursued the claim of $30 million against the Muslimeen.
- You do not believe that an inquiry into the events of July 1990 will serve any useful purpose.
- You once referred to murders in Trinidad as collateral damage.
- You once said that most kidnappings were not real kidnappings.
- Five months ago, you said the escalation of crime was temporary.
- You are currently telling the nation that we must not allow criminals to disrupt our lives.
- You continue to have Martin Joseph as our National Security Minister.
- You believe that we can have population control by watching more television.
- You once called yourself the Father of the Nation. Now you behave as though you are Jesus Christ.
- You were a member of the government between 1976 to 1986 that squandered our oil wealth.
- You are leader of the present government that is squandering our new oil wealth.
- You believe that throwing money at the population will mask your incompetence.
- You also believe that throwing money at a problem will solve the problem. You will not get to the root of the problem.
- You intend to create 15 new State enterprises. More jobs for the boys to fit square pegs in round holes. No lessons from the past.
- Your fiscal policies do not encourage savings and investment. Instead, they encourage spending. They will also lead to bankruptcy, unemployment and devaluation.
- Your populist policies will fuel inflation and negate the $400 tax relief that I will receive next year. It will also ruin our economy.
- Your party is not representative of our country. You had every opportunity to change this.
- You continue to surround yourself with popular people and not necessarily competent people.
- You will never fire the failed Minister of Education.
- You do not believe that every Tom, Dick and businessman has a democratic right to criticise you and your government, whether or not you and your government have erred.
- You continue to encourage the dependency syndrome which has destroyed the lives of many PNM supporters.
- You and your Government see the problems of Laventille and the East-West corridor as misfortune and not the result of failed PNM policies.
- Your strategies for solving our problems are overheating the economy.
- You intend to import labour from Jamaica despite the fact that a lot of the people we classify as employed do nothing at CEPEP and URP.
I could go on and on but I really don't have the time since the reasons are too numerous to mention.
Linus Brown
Diego Martin
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Movar I like Patrick too. My father did like Patrick I like Patrick ;)
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Movar I like Patrick too. My father did like Patrick I like Patrick ;)
hahah preacher yuh not easy
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I think Panday started off great...... but none is good..... either Manning or Panday none cant help, both smart men.... out of the two though, I will go with Panday.
But who will take over should they resign... I hope NOT Ramesh or Rowley...
We need some new blood and a honest and smart one to.... maybe we should get a Dougla Government....
PS: Great poll Flex, believe it or not, a dam good question and argument here.
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eric williams hands down
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Awwwww. Why can't we all get along? Ent both of them went pres anyway? I refuse to vote cuz, as a Trini with indian and african background, I would never dream of bringing race into politics. Sometimes alyuh comments have to be in check, cuz the big ppl does set the example for the little ppl like me. :rotfl: I plan on running for PM in a couple of years anyway ,so soon you'll be voting for my party. :rotfl: LOL keep the debate clean and unbiased nah and vote on facts and not on race. ::)
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My mother always say "Never DISCUSS: Racsim, Religion and Politics" with anybody who is as ignorant as you.
People are just too head strong in their beliefs when it comes to these topics.
Allyuh go have a drink and go tickle something :beermug:
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Albert Trini- I wouldnt dare ask you your age...As I am already so incensed...the political/racial discourse you have presented is from the past and you are trying to play it off as today. If this is the belief of some Trinidadians living abroad, I can now see why our communities will continue to breed hate amongst our people in Trinidad. Older people teach there young of hate...You Albert Trini for all yuh write and the intellectual mumbo jumbo, you have failed to answer the question of why you found it CASUAL(without much thought) to attack another race....I wonder if in Alberta, yuh does go and eat doubles and hangout with yuh Trini Indian partners and attack them about there Indian Heritage. I wonder if you does talk to dem about BACK AH DAY and MARABELLA. Man stick to what you know about FOOTBALL...yuh like to motivate d national team ....well yuh should be showing that type of togetherness with yuh Indian and Negro brothers. You learn in Canada about Multiculturalism yet yuh know thats now how it works in Canada, on d surface it like that...We as Trinidadian people whether yuh have political affiliations or beliefs I say MORE POWER to you, lambasting any POLITICIAN is fine but also a CLASS of people is a different can or worms...". At the end of the day...we all want Trinidad to qualify for d world cup so dont create another ANTS PATCH....
Leave Marabella alone :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Movar I like Patrick too. My father did like Patrick I like Patrick ;)
I used to ride rola skates with him in Marabella
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Trinidad Guardian
Monday 19th February, 2007
Letters
T&T yet to recover from Dr Williams
Citizens in my age group often reminisce about the “bad old days” when citizens lived under the yoke of British colonialism (as Dr Williams used to say) in peace and harmony with each other and nature and slept with doors and windows open, with no fear of being robbed or murdered in their sleep.
Those were the days when citizens were free to walk the streets by day and night without having to keep looking back in fear of bandits or killers.
When people of every creed and race, rich or poor, could drink at the same bar or rum shop free from burglar-proofing and without fear, safe in the knowledge that they would live to see tomorrow.
The days when salaries were small, goods were cheap and banks did not lend money to anyone who did not have money.
When hire purchase had not yet appeared on the scene and people were forced to live within their means and be satisfied with the essential things of life.
Those were also the days when everything seemed to work well and efficiently, public buildings were well maintained and public servants were attentive, courteous and eager to serve.
The days when everyone exchanged a friendly greeting with a smile and was willing to help others less fortunate or in difficulties. When many a motorist carried an extra gallon of gas in the trunk of his car to assist other motorists who had run out of gas on some lonely road far from the nearest gas station, which were few and far between.
The days when individuals did not go about in the dead of night setting their neighbour’s house on fire and burning an entire family to death or executing them in gangland style.
The days when humble and dedicated citizens sat in the House of Representatives with the best interest of the constituents first and foremost in their minds and hearts and not with their own self-interest or that of their party at the top of their agenda.
But then one good day all of that was to rapidly change when a highly educated individual of questionable intelligence arrived on the scene, filled with intense hatred for anything colonial and obsessed with the fact that he was a descendant of a slave, although slavery had been abolished over 100 years previously.
He set about to free his fellow citizens from the evils of slavery and servitude, which did not really exist.
Always displaying a manner of misplaced arrogance, he set out on a path of change for the country and its citizens which, whether deliberate or not, resulted in a severe fracture between the two major ethnic groups in the country, which has continued to widen steadily and increasingly ever since.
During his reign, there ensued a state of fraud, corruption, mismanagement, inefficiency, incompetence, crime and discord among the citizens hitherto unimaginable and which is becoming more rampant with the passage of time.
Unfortunately, the majority of citizens in this country continue to live in a perpetual state of denial and refuse to see the light.
The fact is, however, that if and when they wake up to reality and come to their senses, they will acknowledge, albeit too late, that Eric Eustace Williams was the worst calamity that ever befell this country and one that it will be exceedingly difficult to recover from.
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I jus vote for Chambers .
He came to be prime minister without any hifalutin seta degrees.
He was most humble and a gentleman.
He never played the race game.
He was never a man of much words.
And last but not least like me he liked blondes. ;D ;D
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Dookeran hmmm ,Well my bro was sick bad ,several times in his life .The last time fathers brother ,introduced him to Dooks <they were friends>,and he had promised to help ,speeding some tings up ,he made my father come to all the meetings and help out ,and vote for them and that asshole never did anything :rotfl: fool ,my dad figured him for liar .
But he might be a good leader ,me ein't know .
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wow I didnt realize this thread went this way, as far as I am concerned both panday and manning are idiots, I wish fellahs like dr. Job and Dr.meighoo's party would be in the spotlight, these fellahs would run circles around all these jokers, as far as i am concerned, even though Dooks is not a bonifided leader, panday and manning arent either, so i would have to say that i would cast a vote for dooks oui, 4get unc and pnm, dooks is a bonified presbyterian that has love for all de races and religions in tt, hes far from a racist as my aunt knows him well and as she has told me about him... he also has support from the imams and hindu leaders and of course his christian segment also... However, next time i go down i would like to see if khan and kamal still have confidence in the unc or have lost it, i respect these individuals also immensely bc of my close relations with dem, if they have lost it then unc are indeed in trouble....
God is de BOSS...
Do you really mean Morgan Job? What does being a "bonified" Presbyterian have to do with anything?
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Eric.
PNM fuh life.
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Robinson said the current crop of PNM, UNC and COP MPs were not upholding TT’s parliamentary traditions. He said the UNC and COP were only opposing for “the sake of opposition” and not advancing any constructive proposals for governance. “As of now, what happens is, it is a continuous attack and hostile vendetta against the Government of the nation. One must allow the Government to govern and oppose in matters where we have a constructive proposal to make. That is the purpose of an opposition. That is how I behaved when I was in opposition in this very Parliament,” he said.
Robinson criticised the PNM for not being as open, accountable or generous as it should be as a government. He said the Government should try its best to make genuine proposals and meet with members of the Opposition. “ I think that is necessary. There must not always be a contest for the population for votes,” Robinson added. He also lamented a lack of “genuine patriotism” by people in TT today.
this iz the observation of the ex prime minister /president ,doh mine alyuh say he ole buh he have enough sense to see what these to party leaders is doin to the country.an iz about time we start putting country before party,den the leaders would know that when we put them there , they are working for us and not for them .
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Wade Mark is d worst ting walking...........
I never see somebody anti government so, d man is a bonafide bachannalist, is every tuesday you does hear d man mouth in d senate. Every bill d government try to pass he have a problem with, and some of those bills in my eyes are so needed to run a better country and all d man does say is NO NO NO with little credence in his argument. Last few weeks he only quarrelling with the President of the Senate in a most disrespectful way. It just looks so clear that his motives are not geared towards a better Trinidad and Tobago but for a non PNM government, but i guess that is politics 101.
Very sad
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Mr. Kavanagh from La Romaine, interesting letter. How insightful of you to blame Williams for the march of time. Perhaps in a subsequent edition you'll regale us with further tales of bliss and willful blindness under colonial rule.
Here's what I suggest in the interim: book a one-way ticket stat. Preferably to a British outpost somewhere in the middle of nowhere that harkens back to your preferred way of life. Or, had you not realized that you were free to make a hasty, unannouced exit in the intervening 50 years?
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ERIC WILLIAMS...LOL
PATRICK..lol
PANDAY...lol
Allyuh serious? Most people voting for EW just cause he was the first and he "lead we outta mental slavery". Do allyuh self a favour and read about a fella called DOM BASIL MATHEWS. Trust me ANYBODY coulda done what EW did. He was just a face. Right place at the right time.
Patrick?? lol, come on now people how many BILLIONS this man have to waste before we see how bad a job he really does?
Uncle Bas, welll meh boy i had yuh back, honestly. BUT oh gosh, yuh mean pnm could thief fuh 50 years and cover it up nice nice but u come and get catch in wat , 5 years? If yuh cant thief good then i have NO FAITH IN YOU AS MY PM!!
Robbie..I feel bad fuh yuh. No body seem to give the tobago boy a chance. Don't worry my friend cause you will have the last laugh.
I hope all allyuh trini people understand that the reason why things are so bad now is cause WE allow it to happen. We elected these jokers and WE are the ones who pay the price.
Read Julius Ceasar and think of trinidad...it make plently sense.
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So johnny ringo, wha yu sayin? we have been led out of mental slavery? You know ... it being that easy and all ...
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Basdeo Panday is better suited to the rum shop than the Parliamentary chamber.He and his party are a destructive force.
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Patrick ain't no good & neither is Panday..... Boat ah dem old & have no passion for the job anymore, iz about personal gains for those two. The almighty dollar & the sweet taste of power! We need some new horses on the track. Ah tired ah the sh*t wit two ah dem. All who want to vote & fight for two people who clearly don't give ah f@*k about non ah we.... Go strong! >:(
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Keith Rowley makes a few direct prescriptions for dealing with crime problem in Trinidad and Tobago.
http://www.youtube.com/v/VHkJuNQywDc
Excerpts from a speech by Dr.Keith Rowley in HI-LO carpark on February 26, 2013.....
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Panday: Manning has the right to run
"If the people do not want him, well, he pays the price for that."
By Sue-Ann-Wayow
FORMER Prime Minister Basdeo Panday says he sees no problem with Patrick Manning's decision to offer himself as a nominee to be screened for the San Fernando East seat he has held since 1971.
On Monday night, Manning, the country's longest serving MP indicated his willingness to offer himself again as the People's National Movement (PNM) representative for the constituency after the three nominees were not chosen during the PNM's screening process for candidates last week.
Yesterday, Panday told the Express: "The democratic principles are quite simply, if Mr Manning wishes to contest the elections and the people want him, democracy demands that he has a right to go up for elections. The people will determine whether they want him or not. I thought that was the democratic process myself but I don't know why it is causing so much problems."
Some constituents, while indicating support for Manning as MP said he should not contest the election given his recent health status.
Manning, addressing supporters during a cottage meeting in Pleasantville said: " As the new year turned, I observed that I have made tremendous, dramatic, positive strides with my health. And it continues. My main concern has been my speech. But my speech today is far better than it has been in the recent past. In short, the news on the health front, for me, is very, very good. I, too, am astonished. "
Panday said: "I don't have a personal opinion in this matter. My opinion is that we do what is democratic, what ought to be done. The man has a right. Why should he not exercise his rights if he wants to? If the people do not want him, well, he pays the price for that. "
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A look into the life of a leader: Dr. Eric Eustace Williams
https://www.youtube.com/v/SK04GPRvr3E
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Great piece by Ralph Maharaj on PM Manning. :beermug:
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/Thank-you-Sir-292126681.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/Thank-you-Sir-292126681.html)
Thank you, Sir
By Ralph Maraj
Like Keith Rowley, my life too would have turned out differently had I not met Patrick Manning. In 1988, he afforded me the privilege of being on a team working closely with him to return the PNM to government. That team included Lenny Saith, Dr Rowley, Ken Valley, Augustus Ramrekersingh, Colm Imbert and later, John Eckstein. It was a thrilling time, adrenalin charged. Manning inspired us all. When we won in 1991, he appointed me minister of foreign affairs.
There was also high drama. In 1995, I learnt via television he had removed me as foreign minister and appointed me minister in the Office of the Prime Minister. I refused to take up the appointment, causing turbulence in the government and I was subsequently appointed minister of public utilities. When speaker of the house, Occah Seapaul, was placed under house arrest, I resigned from the cabinet. Shortly after, I switched allegiance to the United National Congress and then resigned from the Parliament. On my last day, I told the House of Representatives, recorded in Hansard, that my resignation as member for San Fernando West was “the inevitable consequence of my decision to resign from the People’s National Movement, the party on whose behalf I had fought and won the seat. I am leaving the House because I am leaving the party. Having decided to leave the party I am honour bound to leave the Parliament and I do so out of respect for the people of Trinidad and Tobago.”
Manning and I parted company for six years but became allies again in 2001 when Ramesh Maharaj, Trevor Sudama and I left the second Panday administration protesting against corruption, precipitating a general election which returned the PNM to power. Thereafter, I was a major speech writer for PM Manning for ten years. In the end, I ended up serving with him for almost 17 of his 25 years as a pivotal figure in our country. I am extremely grateful for that tremendous experience.
Trinidad and Tobago should also be grateful to Patrick Manning. Thus far, he has been our most outstanding prime minister after Eric Williams. In 1991, he met dire conditions. We had a dying economy, the highest level of unemployment ever, over 35 per cent of the people in poverty, IMF conditionalities presiding, and the country’s psyche damaged by the attempted coup of 1990. The nation was stuck and stalled.
Having prepared in opposition, Manning moved resolutely towards the modernisation of the economy, dismantling barriers to trade and investment, rationalising state enterprises and floating the currency. He initiated the LNG industry which has fuelled national development ever since. Confidence and foreign investment returned, and after ten years, our economy grew in 1994 and became increasingly strong for over 15 years after that. Between 2001 and 2007, under Manning, economic growth averaged 8.3 per cent. By 2010, the economy had tripled in size from $55 billion to over $165 billion and attracted more than US$12 billion in foreign investment. Reserves increased to US$11 billion and the Heritage and Stabilisation Fund grew to $19 billion, 13 times more than in 2001.
The prosperity percolated throughout. We achieved historic levels of employment, a 100 per cent increase in per capita income, lower taxation, tax exemption for 300,000 low income earners and increased wages and pensions. Poverty levels dropped by half to 16.7 per cent by 2010.
Patrick Manning established the UTT and GATE, made tertiary education free and increased university enrolment from 9,000 in 2001 to over 50,000 in 2010. Also, over 150,000 individuals acquired technical skills, over 20,000 housing units were built for lower income families; and over 600,000 persons benefited from free medicines for common ailments. Manning built the NAPA, SAPA, Hyatt Hotel, international financial centre, government campus buildings, the Chancery Lane facility, the Churchill Roosevelt/Uriah Butler overpass and the Prime Minister’s Residence and Diplomatic Centre among others. He established the water taxi service, the waterfront project, the Brian Lara Promenade and much more. He left office with much in the pipeline including the rapid rail, an aluminium smelter and off-shore patrol vessels to fight the drug trade. Diversification was underway with plants for Melamine and Urea ammonium nitrate, growth in the information industries and new targeted areas: film, entertainment, printing and packaging and merchant marine. And, most importantly, under Patrick Manning, for the first time in our history, former government officials, including a prime minister and cabinet ministers, were charged for massive corruption.
Manning can depart the political stage assured history will salute him. The entire nation should say, “thank you, Sir.”
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Remembering PM Dr Williams 34 years after his death. UWI hosted an event to celebrate his life yesterday.
http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/-Eric-Williams-Remembered--2780---298083441.html (http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/-Eric-Williams-Remembered--2780---298083441.html)
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Dr Eric Williams 34 years later
https://www.youtube.com/v/laSP6E2lLfs
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The life of Arthur Napoleon Raymond Robinson, Third Prime Minister of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.
https://www.youtube.com/v/oNbyDCyhphs
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https://www.facebook.com/DrEricWilliams/photos/pb.73999179232.-2207520000.1438485960./10153168090579233/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/DrEricWilliams/photos/pb.73999179232.-2207520000.1438485960./10153168090579233/?type=3&theater)
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Celebrating 53 years of Independence, CTV salutes the third President of Trinidad & Tobago A.N.R. Robinson
https://www.facebook.com/ctntworld/videos/10153021146087826/ (https://www.facebook.com/ctntworld/videos/10153021146087826/)
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Celebrating 53 years of Independence, CTV salutes former Prime Minister Patrick Manning.
https://www.facebook.com/ctntworld/videos/10153021056227826/
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In 1943 Eric Williams, the future prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago, organised a conference on 'The Economic Future of the Caribbean'. Williams, a rising star in intellectual and activist circles, brought together an eclectic and influential group of experts to debate the conference them
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https://www.youtube.com/v/m94idc3M2wo
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Former Prime Minister Patrick Manning sends congratulations to Prime Minister Elect Dr Keith Rowley.
See full speech https://www.facebook.com/meetmanning/posts/1178478302168023 (https://www.facebook.com/meetmanning/posts/1178478302168023)
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I wonder how Manning and Rowley's relationship is today. We all know they did not get along for decades - Rowley tried to run against him several times before the whole UDECOTT fiasco. I suspect they maintain minimal communication - Manning looked better on election day but you can tell movement and his speech is difficult.
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So much has been said about Dr Keith Rowley over the course of his political career. Our views of one of Trinidad and Tobago's most experienced politicians have been shaped by what we hear of him from others. But now, for the first time, we have a first hand glimpse into who Dr Keith Rowley is. Take a quick look at Keith Rowley, the man
https://www.youtube.com/v/qPkgZp0syz0
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The Parliament Channel presents the Parliamentary profile of Mr. Basdeo Panday, who was the fifth Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago from 1995 to 2001 and has served as Leader of the Opposition from 1976–1977, 1978–1986, 1989–1995, 2001–2006 and 2007–2010.
https://www.youtube.com/v/zpnqciQI7bM
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There is something to admire from where Panday came from to how high of an office he got, literally from being dirt poor. It's an interesting history.
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There is something to admire from where Panday came from to how high of an office he got, literally from being dirt poor. It's an interesting history.
Same could be said for our current PM. :beermug:
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I think most of our PMs came from humble beginnings. I don't know of any who came from very wealthy family. Not trying to disparage any leader who came from family with wealth. The content of character is what matters most.
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Parliamentary Personality feature on Dr. Eric Eustace Williams, first Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago.
https://www.youtube.com/v/b_KQDwBnIrI&feature=youtu.be
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Cyprus History Timeline. #OnThisDay November 30th 1990
http://famagusta-gazette.com/today-in-cyprus-history-th-november-p30960-69.htm
2009: President Christofias attended the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) being held in Port of Spain, the capital of Trinidad and Tobago. According to an official announcement issued here, the Meeting was opened by Queen Elizabeth and addressed by the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Patrick Manning and the Commonwealth General Secretary Kamalesh Sharma
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Special presentation on PM Chambers
https://www.youtube.com/v/V5scuIJJ4_0
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Come August, the Eric Williams Memorial Collection located at the University of the West Indies, St. Augustine Campus will have a new home.
https://www.facebook.com/cnewslive/videos/10153819037690610/
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Dated March 29, 2016
http://www.pnmtnt.org/index.php/latest-news/2014-08-25-17-06-22.html?start=10
On this day we mark the passing of a man who has truly achieved the dream of living a fulfilling life.
Dr. Eric Eustace Williams was born on 25 September 1911 and died on 29 March 1981 but his legacy will continue to live on as the Father of our Nation, Trinidad and Tobago. In the memory of Dr. Eric Williams there is hope, pride, discipline, humility, strength, power and purpose. To know this man, is to know that nothing in life is impossible to achieve.
Dr. Eric Williams was leader of the Nation from 1956 - 1981 and this earned him the title "Father of the Nation". He was our country's first Chief Minister, first Premier and first Prime Minister. Dr. Eric Williams was responsible for creating and leading a National Movement of People, credited with the development of Trinidad and Tobago. Dr. Williams presided over our country's movement from Colonialism to Independence and Republican status.
This movement is the Peoples National Movement (PNM) which proudly stands today as the genesis, the current and the future of politics in Trinidad and Tobago. Dr. Eric Williams advocated and nurtured the PNM Constitution which continues to be copied by other political parties across the region. The creation of a Women's League and the grooming of young politicians in the Youth League are some of the components which distinguished the PNM as a model institution. The PNM celebrates its 60th Anniversary this year and continues to grow stronger and more relevant even as so many other political parties have come and gone.
This National Scholar and Caribbean Historian used his intellect to fight against racism and to educate everyone who was willing to listen. Dr. Williams took the opportunity as Prime Minister to emphasize the importance of Education, making it free and available to all citizens and coined the timeless phrase "the future of the Nation is in the children's school bags". His autobiography "Inward Hunger" describes his struggles through his academic pursuits, "I was severely handicapped in my research by my lack of money.... I was turned down everywhere I tried ... and could not ignore the racial factor involved".
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Footage of Trinidad and Tobago first Prime Minister Dr. Eric Williams.
https://www.youtube.com/v/G7wb09Ahj1g
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Tribute to Patrick Augustus Mervyn Manning
https://www.youtube.com/v/z5JWBJqmCrE&spfreload=10
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This poll probably come out after PM Robinson died. Dais the only understanding for him finishing second :D
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Strange coincidence that Eric Williams, George Chambers and Patrick Manning all died at age 69.