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Title: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 14, 2009, 02:48:56 PM
Let's get this started.  ;D


Arguably the two best remaining teams in the CL - Sad when you see the Finals played, before the actual finals.


C'mon CHELSEAAAAA!!!!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2009, 03:26:37 PM
Honestly, I don't see Chelsea getting past Barca on this one.  In fact, I don't see NO TEAM in Europe getting past Barca at this stage.  Maybe in a final, any one team can beat another, but, in two games?  I eh so sure 'bout dat.  However....stranger things have happened, but this is a matchup where I turn neutral.......somewhat.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 14, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
Watch Guss do this thing. Michael Essien is the man and Drogba firing.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 14, 2009, 03:37:10 PM
this will be tough, but I'm going with Chelsea. Fav 3 club sides of all time have been Chelsea, Barca and Milan.

I don't think anyone can admit that Chelsea are favourites to win this one, but if you're a fan you have to believe.

Guus did an amazing tactical job at KoP last week to find and exploit Liverpool's weakness like no team was able to do all season. I expect that he would've started working on Barca's deficiences 5 mins after the 'Pool game was over.

Let's see what happens in two weeks!!

Again, too bad this isn't the final.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: The_Ice on April 14, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
yea man... like ppl real forgetting who managing this side... haterz expecting what they see in the previous game to be displayed against barca... different teams getting different ammunition
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: SOBRIQUET on April 14, 2009, 03:48:12 PM
Essien hadda handcuff messi like he did gerrard for chelsea to win, granted Barca have waaaay more attacking weapons than Liverpool.  First game at Nou Camp 2-1 barca. 2-0 Chelsea at the bridge.... Blues back in the final vs Man U.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 14, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
Honestly, I don't see Chelsea getting past Barca on this one.  In fact, I don't see NO TEAM in Europe getting past Barca at this stage.  Maybe in a final, any one team can beat another, but, in two games?  I eh so sure 'bout dat.  However....stranger things have happened, but this is a matchup where I turn neutral.......somewhat.

Aye, stop acting like a punk b!tch! Who yuh backing?

Don't take the 'neutral' cop-out.

State your allegiance!

 :D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 14, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Essien hadda handcuff messi like he did gerrard for chelsea to win, granted Barca have waaaay more attacking weapons than Liverpool.  First game at Nou Camp 2-1 barca. 2-0 Chelsea at the bridge.... Blues back in the final vs Man U.

You on some serious drugs.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Jah Gol on April 14, 2009, 03:52:28 PM
Mes que un club !
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 14, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
an ole picture...buh say wha..... :D
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iNG5AE7xrYU/SRJXIVgGIyI/AAAAAAAAFWk/FBxj1tli_H0/WC1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: The_Ice on April 14, 2009, 03:56:48 PM
Essien hadda handcuff messi like he did gerrard for chelsea to win, granted Barca have waaaay more attacking weapons than Liverpool.  First game at Nou Camp 2-1 barca. 2-0 Chelsea at the bridge.... Blues back in the final vs Man U.

You on some serious drugs.

yea he seriously have to be... Man U aint making no finals  :devil:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 14, 2009, 03:57:26 PM
Mes que un club !

Nice, nice, nice!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 14, 2009, 04:17:01 PM
Chelski has no fullbacks for the first game against Barca.
I think Cech should take a walk on the wild side an discard the skullcap!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 14, 2009, 04:25:49 PM
Let's get this started.  ;D


Arguably the two best remaining teams in the CL - Sad when you see the Finals played, before the actual finals.


C'mon CHELSEAAAAA!!!!!


Horse, yuh real jump the gun dey boy.

Do the thing properly nuh boy. Put the stats, who playing where first, stats on past matchups a lil picture or a youtube link.

Yuh jes gone wild and make thread.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: triniairman on April 14, 2009, 04:39:15 PM
yuh gone an piss off  Disgruntled_Trini, yuh beat him to the post ;D Doh geh mad DT I know yuh is ah Barca man, is only fair are Barca fan make the thread. yuh don't see Liverfool and Chelski fan making a ManU thread.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 14, 2009, 04:40:34 PM
Let's get this started.  ;D


Arguably the two best remaining teams in the CL - Sad when you see the Finals played, before the actual finals.


C'mon CHELSEAAAAA!!!!!


Horse, yuh real jump the gun dey boy.

Do the thing properly nuh boy. Put the stats, who playing where first, stats on past matchups a lil picture or a youtube link.

Yuh jes gone wild and make thread.


lol. All I know is that the game is on the 28th or 29th.  ;D

I doh deal up in Stats, but as I overheard on the commentary, I believe in the last 5 (or 8??) Chelsea vs Barcelona matchups, they produce 29 goals.

Both sides in form to keep that tally moving, irregardless that Ronaldinho is not there anymore to replicate the magic he performed at Stamford Bridge last time.

how that for a start? lol
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: SOBRIQUET on April 14, 2009, 05:15:49 PM
Essien hadda handcuff messi like he did gerrard for chelsea to win, granted Barca have waaaay more attacking weapons than Liverpool.  First game at Nou Camp 2-1 barca. 2-0 Chelsea at the bridge.... Blues back in the final vs Man U.

You on some serious drugs.

yup, the same drugs i was on, when everybody else was talkin bout how Liverpool goin and DESTROY we after they sodomize your team, hit man u 4 and buss 5 on villa.... them same drugs.....
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2009, 05:43:36 PM
Honestly, I don't see Chelsea getting past Barca on this one.  In fact, I don't see NO TEAM in Europe getting past Barca at this stage.  Maybe in a final, any one team can beat another, but, in two games?  I eh so sure 'bout dat.  However....stranger things have happened, but this is a matchup where I turn neutral.......somewhat.

Aye, stop acting like a punk b!tch! Who yuh backing?

Don't take the 'neutral' cop-out.

State your allegiance!

 :D


  :rotfl: Basket doh hold no effin' water!!    :rotfl:
I eh hadda state shyte!! 
Like you spendin' too much time wit DieHard.  Jes so yuh callin' people out dey name?!
Yuh lucky ah doh cuss woman in public.  Ah woulda treat yuh like de undercover manu fan dat yuh is!!
Yuh f**ker!  
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: NJsTriniGunna on April 14, 2009, 05:49:53 PM
No way  Chelsea gettin through. NO way atall atall. Chelsea gonna get nothin but lix in both legs.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 14, 2009, 05:57:03 PM
GO CHELSEA!!!!....GO GUUS!!!...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bourbon on April 14, 2009, 06:11:19 PM

League, Jornada 31, Sun 19 Apr, --:-- Getafe CF - FC Barcelona
League, Jornada 32, Wed 22 Apr, --:-- FC Barcelona - Sevilla CF
League, Jornada 33, Sun 26 Apr, --:-- Valencia CF - FC Barcelona
Champions League Semifinal anada Tue 28 Apr 20:45 FC Barcelona - Chelsea/Liverpool
League, Jornada 34, Sun 03 May, --:-- Real Madrid - FC Barcelona
Champions League Semifinal tornada Wed 06 May 20:45 Chelsea/Liverpool - FC Barcelona

League, Jornada 35, Sun 10 May, --:-- FC Barcelona - Villarreal CF
Spanish Cup Final Wed 13 May 22:00 Ath.Bilbao - FC Barcelona
League, Jornada 36, Sun 17 May, --:-- RCD Mallorca - FC Barcelona
League, Jornada 37, Sun 24 May, --:-- FC Barcelona - Osasuna
League, Jornada 38, Sun 31 May, --:-- Deportivo - FC Barcelona


Wow....dahs some intense pressha around a pivotal time. Hopefully Pep discipline pay off....and messi get some rest somewhere inbetween. 3 Trophies on de line....hmmm.....and Champions league final is the 27th of may.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 14, 2009, 06:14:57 PM
Watch Guss do this thing. Michael Essien is the man and Drogba firing.

they cloning essien o wah? is 5 danger men coming at allyuh. chelsea ent have speed so i ent fraid them. barca not hard to score against though. so we  will see how this play out.

ashley cole dead oh gosh messi and alves in yuh tail.......can anyone say highlight reel?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bourbon on April 14, 2009, 06:16:02 PM
Watch Guss do this thing. Michael Essien is the man and Drogba firing.

they cloning essien o wah? is 5 danger men coming at allyuh. chelsea ent have speed so i ent fraid them. barca not hard to score against though. so we  will see how this play out.

ashley cole dead oh gosh messi and alves in yuh tail.......can anyone say highlight reel?

He missing first leg...suspended. He probably glad to be honest.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 14, 2009, 06:18:28 PM
Watch Guss do this thing. Michael Essien is the man and Drogba firing.

they cloning essien o wah? is 5 danger men coming at allyuh. chelsea ent have speed so i ent fraid them. barca not hard to score against though. so we  will see how this play out.

ashley cole dead oh gosh messi and alves in yuh tail.......can anyone say highlight reel?


   How many clean sheets Barca have this season again? 
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 14, 2009, 06:35:10 PM
How many clean sheets Barca have this season again? 

twenty.

agosto
13 ago, 21:45 Barcelona 4 - 0 Wisla Cracovia  Liga de Campeones
26 ago, 20:45 Wisla Cracovia 1 - 0 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones
31 ago, 19:00 C.D Numancia 1 - 0 Barcelona  La Liga

septiembre
13 sep, 20:00 Barcelona 1 - 1 Racing de Santander  La Liga
16 sep, 20:45 Barcelona 3 - 1 Sporting  Liga de Campeones
21 sep, 21:00 Sporting de Gijón 1 - 6 Barcelona  La Liga
24 sep, 20:00 Barcelona 3 - 2 Betis  La Liga
27 sep, 22:00 Espanyol 1 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga

octubre
1 oct, 20:45 Shakhtar Donetsk 1 - 2 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones
4 oct, 22:00 Barcelona 6 - 1 Atlético de Madrid  La Liga
19 oct, 19:00 Athletic Club 0 - 1 Barcelona  La Liga
22 oct, 20:45 Basilea 0 - 5 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones
25 oct, 22:00 Barcelona 5 - 0 U.D Almería  La Liga
28 oct, 21:00 Benidorm 0 - 1 Barcelona  Copa del Rey


noviembre
1 nov, 20:00 Málaga 1 - 4 Barcelona  La Liga
4 nov, 20:45 Barcelona 1 - 1 Basilea  Liga de Campeones
8 nov, 22:00 Barcelona 6 - 0 Valladolid  La Liga
12 nov, 21:00 Barcelona 1 - 0 Benidorm  Copa del Rey

16 nov, 21:00 Recreativo de Huelva 0 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga
23 nov, 19:00 Barcelona 1 - 1 Getafe C.F.  La Liga
26 nov, 20:45 Sporting 2 - 5 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones
29 nov, 22:00 Sevilla 0 - 3 Barcelona  La Liga

diciembre
6 dic, 22:00 Barcelona 4 - 0 Valencia  La Liga
9 dic, 20:45 Barcelona 2 - 3 Shakhtar Donetsk  Liga de Campeones
13 dic, 22:00 Barcelona 2 - 0 Real Madrid  La Liga
21 dic, 19:00 Villarreal 1 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga

enero
3 ene, 20:00 Barcelona 3 - 1 Mallorca  La Liga
6 ene, 20:00 Atlético de Madrid 1 - 3 Barcelona  Copa del Rey
11 ene, 21:00 Osasuna 2 - 3 Barcelona  La Liga
14 ene, 22:00 Barcelona 2 - 1 Atlético de Madrid  Copa del Rey
17 ene, 20:00 Barcelona 5 - 0 Deportivo de la Coruña  La Liga
21 ene, 22:00 Espanyol 0 - 0 Barcelona  Copa del Rey

24 ene, 22:00 Barcelona 4 - 1 C.D Numancia  La Liga
29 ene, 21:30 Barcelona 3 - 2 Espanyol  Copa del Rey

febrero
1 feb, 17:00 Racing de Santander 1 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga
5 feb, 21:30 Barcelona 2 - 0 Mallorca  Copa del Rey
8 feb, 19:00 Barcelona 3 - 1 Sporting de Gijón  La Liga
14 feb, 20:00 Betis 2 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga
21 feb, 20:00 Barcelona 1 - 2 Espanyol  La Liga
24 feb, 20:45 Lyon 1 - 1 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones

marzo
1 mar, 19:00 Atlético de Madrid 4 - 3 Barcelona  La Liga
4 mar, 22:00 Mallorca 1 - 1 Barcelona  Copa del Rey
7 mar, 20:00 Barcelona 2 - 0 Athletic Club  La Liga
11 mar, 20:45 Barcelona 5 - 2 Lyon  Liga de Campeones
15 mar, 21:00 U.D Almería 0 - 2 Barcelona  La Liga
22 mar, 19:00 Barcelona 6 - 0 Málaga  La Liga


abril
4 abr, 20:00 Valladolid 0 - 1 Barcelona  La Liga
8 abr, 20:45 Barcelona 4 - 0 Bayern  Liga de Campeones
11 abr, 20:00 Barcelona 2 - 0 Recreativo de Huelva  La Liga

14 abr, 20:45 Bayern 1 - 1 Barcelona  Liga de Campeones
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 14, 2009, 06:40:05 PM
Honestly, I don't see Chelsea getting past Barca on this one.  In fact, I don't see NO TEAM in Europe getting past Barca at this stage.  Maybe in a final, any one team can beat another, but, in two games?  I eh so sure 'bout dat.  However....stranger things have happened, but this is a matchup where I turn neutral.......somewhat.

Aye, stop acting like a punk b!tch! Who yuh backing?

Don't take the 'neutral' cop-out.

State your allegiance!

 :D


  :rotfl: Basket doh hold no effin' water!!    :rotfl:
I eh hadda state shyte!! 
Like you spendin' too much time wit DieHard.  Jes so yuh callin' people out dey name?!
Yuh lucky ah doh cuss woman in public.  Ah woulda treat yuh like de undercover manu fan dat yuh is!!
Yuh f**ker!  


 :devil:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: NJsTriniGunna on April 14, 2009, 06:41:04 PM
The way defense was played today, I dunno if they will give up too many. But i mean, you also have to score from at least the half line, and I the only time chelsea will have the ball at at least the half line is when Barca score, and the start of a half. BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 14, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
How many clean sheets Barca have this season again? 

Bayern scored 24 goals in the 8 CL matches leading up to Barcelona. They scored 1 goal over 2 legs. Don't under estimate Barcelona's ability to defend. Hard to score on them when you busy defending.

That said Chelsea is a resilient team who tends to rise the occassion. I am backing Barca, but you can't sleep on Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 14, 2009, 08:58:29 PM
Have luck dey chelsea men, but Utd is the only team that could stop Barca.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 14, 2009, 09:15:02 PM
Have luck dey chelsea men, but Utd is the only team that could stop Barca.

Try beat Porto first nah man. Yuh plate full but yuh watching other man plate.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 16, 2009, 08:42:20 AM
clearly this is the more entertaining of the two semi-final matchups now that the teams are set.

This is the dream final that UEFA would wish for.
The best team in England and the best team in Spain battling it out for Europe's premier prize.

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Sam on April 16, 2009, 08:57:55 AM
This side will beat Barca.

                         Petr Cech
Branislav Ivanović, Alex, John Terry, Ashley Cole
José Bosingwa, Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, Florent Malouda
           Nicolas Anelka, Didier Drogba

Subs - Joe Cole, Michael Ballack, John Obi Mikel, Deco, Salomon Kalou, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Franco Di Santo, Juliano Belletti and Ricardo Quaresma.

I think Chelsea needs to put pressure on Cech, give de back up keeper a few games and get Chec back into de game.

Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry, Yaya Touré, Carles Puyol, Sylvinho, Xavi and Samuel Eto is realy trouble though.

This go be a big game.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 16, 2009, 09:19:42 AM
This side will beat Barca.

                         Petr Cech
Branislav Ivanović, Alex, John Terry, Ashley Cole
José Bosingwa, Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, Florent Malouda
           Nicolas Anelka, Didier Drogba

Subs - Joe Cole, Michael Ballack, John Obi Mikel, Deco, Salomon Kalou, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Franco Di Santo, Juliano Belletti and Ricardo Quaresma.

I think Chelsea needs to put pressure on Cech, give de back up keeper a few games and get Chec back into de game.

Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry, Yaya Touré, Carles Puyol, Sylvinho, Xavi and Samuel Eto is realy trouble though.

This go be a big game.


Bosingwa has been a defensive liability, but on a whole Chelsea's defending has been woeful in the past two games so not sure if it could get any worse than that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Deco get a run out against his former team from the start. He was supposed to be injured, but I see him sweat for Portugal the other day, so I expect him to be ready in two weeks. He could prove the foil to Barca quick counter strikes, because he's the one Chelsea player who can hold the ball skillfully and let others make their runs, whether it's an overlapping Bosingwa, Drogba and Anelka doing their thing up front, or Lampard cutting across the back of the two strikers. I also think Kalou will start ahead of Malouda in this game. Problem is Kalou is hit or miss, so it might just open up the opportunity for Obi Mikel.

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dinho on April 16, 2009, 09:31:11 AM
This side will beat Barca.

                         Petr Cech
Branislav Ivanović, Alex, John Terry, Ashley Cole
José Bosingwa, Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, Florent Malouda
           Nicolas Anelka, Didier Drogba

Subs - Joe Cole, Michael Ballack, John Obi Mikel, Deco, Salomon Kalou, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Franco Di Santo, Juliano Belletti and Ricardo Quaresma.

I think Chelsea needs to put pressure on Cech, give de back up keeper a few games and get Chec back into de game.

Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry, Yaya Touré, Carles Puyol, Sylvinho, Xavi and Samuel Eto is realy trouble though.

This go be a big game.


Bosingwa has been a defensive liability, but on a whole Chelsea's defending has been woeful in the past two games so not sure if it could get any worse than that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Deco get a run out against his former team from the start. He was supposed to be injured, but I see him sweat for Portugal the other day, so I expect him to be ready in two weeks. He could prove the foil to Barca quick counter strikes, because he's the one Chelsea player who can hold the ball skillfully and let others make their runs, whether it's an overlapping Bosingwa, Drogba and Anelka doing their thing up front, or Lampard cutting across the back of the two strikers. I also think Kalou will start ahead of Malouda in this game. Problem is Kalou is hit or miss, so it might just open up the opportunity for Obi Mikel.


Don't see the point of starting Deco in a game like this.

If Chelsea is going to win this, it won't be by outskillsing Barca or by any form of creativity, magic or individual brilliance.

Its better to play a tight 5 man midfield to stifle Barca's creativity and the supply line (Xavi/Iniesta) to the front 3. Then use their physical advantage in the form of Drogba/Anelka/Ballack on the offensive end to pound Barca into submission. Set pieces will be crucial and the long ball could be effective as Marquez/Puyol have shown to be susceptible. Play to your strengths, use power, pace and intensity.

The biggest problem is that left side of Chelsea's defence. Messi and Alves raiding down that side at Ashley Cole would have been bad enough but he's suspended for the first leg. If Ivanovic plays there, then Essien would have to always be coming back to help him out or it could be a repeat of the Del Horno shambles of years gone by. If I was coach I would even consider taking the chance and put Essien at left back as a buffer and start Obi Mikel in the middle.

For me this is my dream final.

Two of my favorite teams going head to head, although I favor Chelsea slightly for this one, but whatever the outcome I will be backing the winner of this tie to take the whole thing.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 17, 2009, 08:11:44 AM
no Bosingwa and Deco tomorrow versus Arsenal: both out with slight hamstring tweeks.
No word on whether they'll be available for the showdown with Barca.

and as much as I like Alves and Barca, he needs to stop talking trash this early:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1171250/Lucky-escape-Barcelona-star-Alves-glad-didnt-sign-Champions-League-rivals-Chelsea.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1171250/Lucky-escape-Barcelona-star-Alves-glad-didnt-sign-Champions-League-rivals-Chelsea.html?ITO=1490)

Quote
Lucky escape: Barcelona star Alves glad he didn't sign for European Cup rivals Chelsea

By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 2:31 PM on 17th April 2009


Barcelona star Dani Alves has kicked off the Champions League phoney war by insisting he is glad that he missed out on a move to Chelsea.

The Brazil defender, considered by many the best right-back in the world, was the subject of bids from Stamford Bridge before Barca signed him from Sevilla last summer.

And with his club set to meet the west Londoners for a place in the European Cup final, the 25-year-old told Spanish newspaper Marca: 'I was close to signing with Chelsea but luckily it didn't happen and I moved to a team that suits me perfectly

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/17/article-1171250-045C8640000005DC-648_468x403.jpg)

'When I decided to come to Barcelona it was because they were starting a new project. I like challenges in life and Barca had gone two years without winning any trophies.'

Chelsea travel to the Nou Camp for the semi-final first leg on Tuesday, April 28 before the return match at Stamford Bridge eight days later.

Alves said: 'I am convinced that we are going to give people something to speak about, in the Champions League. Barca are always amongst the favourites thanks to their football and their greatness.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/17/article-1171250-046EB926000005DC-940_233x356.jpg)
Turnaround: Coach Pep Guardiola has transformed Barcelona

'We are a step closer from our target, which is to make the final in Rome. What we must do is achieve a great work at home and then qualify up there. Barcelona are going to be a very tough adversary for Chelsea.'
And the free-kick special has his eye on winning the competition, as well as the Spanish League and Cup with Barca.

'The Treble is a real possibility,' he said. 'Dreams cost nothing. We will see what we can achieve.
'It goes through our heads that we could win nothing. But we must crown this season with titles. If not three, then two. Football is not so unfair that we would win nothing. I'm sure that Barca will get something.'
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 17, 2009, 08:34:46 AM
he eh really talk no trash. If the man glad he went to barca, then he glad.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 17, 2009, 09:55:09 AM
d man get me  behaving like oscar looking 4 thrash.  when there is none to b found
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: breezers on April 17, 2009, 10:42:46 AM
BARCA FUH LIFE!!!!  (sung like mavado)  ;D

This victory is gonna be in lovin memory of R10....sweet revenge!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: injunchile on April 17, 2009, 10:52:12 AM
Chelsea - vs -Arsenal= That is the Final
 Winner- Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 17, 2009, 12:09:46 PM
Chelsea - vs -Arsenal= That is the Final
 Winner- Chelsea.

imagine that. not just from the same country, but the same city as wel. yawwwwn  ;)
Title: UEFA CL 1st Leg - FC Barcelona v Chelsea • 28 April 09
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2009, 08:55:37 AM
Where?
Camp Nou, Barcelona

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/kammourewa/fc-barcelona-camp-nou-1.jpg)

When?
Tuesday, 28 April 09, 20:45 (Barcelona Time)
Tuesday, 28 April 09, 14:45 (North American Eastern Time)

League Ranks

La Liga
FC Barça, 1st, 75 points, Goal differential +63 (30/38 matches played)

EPL
Chelsea FC, 3rd, 67, Goal differential +35 (32/38 matches played)


Current From

Last five home matches
FC Barcelona, W-W-W-W-W

Last five away matches
Chelsea FC, W-D-L-W-W

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00140/chelsea_barcelona_r_140827a.jpg)

Statistics

FC Barcelona vs Chelsea FC

Overall
Wins 7 | 5 Wins
Draws 3 | 4 Draws
Losses 2 | 1 Losses
Clean Sheets 3 | 4 Clean Sheets

Past Meetings

01/11/2006       UEFA CL     Barcelona vs Chelsea  0 : 1/2     2 - 2
19/10/2006    UEFA CL    Chelsea vs Barcelona    0 : 0      1 - 0
08/03/2006    UEFA CL    Barcelona vs Chelsea    0 : 1/2    1 - 1
23/02/2006    UEFA CL    Chelsea vs Barcelona    0 : 1/4    1 - 2
08/03/2005    UEFA CL    Chelsea vs Barcelona    0 : 1/2    4 - 2
22/02/2005    UEFA CL    Barcelona vs Chelsea    0 : 1/2    2 - 1
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: weary1969 on April 27, 2009, 09:13:23 AM
Lets go Barca
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 27, 2009, 10:15:47 AM
barca not hard to score against though.


Barca is likely one of, if not the most difficult team to score against in all of Europe.  Their defensive organization is underappreciated because of their attacking flair.  Daiz your side, yuh mus' watch them closely when they lose the ball- very very organized and very industrious getting numbers around the ball to win it back...They're not overly physical and they have alot of expressive attacking players- but Barca's strength is in their attention to precision both offensively & defensively.  I haven't checked any records but I want to guess that outside of Chelsea & Manu who are extremely stingy at the back, their defensive record (goals conceded) is probably the best in Europe (certainly no.1 or 2 in Spain)....
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Andre on April 27, 2009, 10:59:25 AM
excellent read on how guardiola turn barca around.

long tho.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8013929.stm
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Oh gaaaawd mods!!

I didn't want this thread lumped in with ACB's thread (no offense ACB) for the simple reason that he went about it wrong.

Anyhow, I taking in the game at Trotters tomorrow.

Anybody for $20 beers, check meh.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 27, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
if barcelona lose this game i go have to stay away from wuk, cause go b real old talk in mi head
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2009, 07:13:18 AM
Barca's Xavi: La Liga better than Premier League

Barcelona midfielder Xavi says the Primera Liga is better than England's Premier League and hopes his side can show it by going all the way in this season's Champions League.

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/April2009/xavi-275.jpg)
The playmaker had played his whole career at the Nou Camp.

Barca were joined in the semi-finals by three English sides last season, only to be knocked out by eventual champions Manchester United over two legs and this time, three of the last four teams are the same. Like United and Chelsea, Barca have progressed to the semi-final stage once again, while Arsenal are the other side still left in the competition.

The Catalans beat Arsene Wenger's side in the final in 2006 to claim their last major trophy and could set up a repeat performance this time around. Indeed, to win the Champions league for only the third time in their history, Barcelona must overcome two English sides, starting with Chelsea.

Pep Guardiola's side meet the Londoners in the first leg on Tuesday and Xavi hopes his side can show that Spain's top flight is stronger than England's.

''There's not much between the two leagues but I think our league is stronger - it is better technically and there is more tactical order,'' he said on Monday. ''Maybe the Premier League wins in terms of intensity and rhythm.''

''And it's true that there are three English teams in the semi-finals, but we are not here by coincidence.''

Xavi, who began his career at the Catalan club playing alongside Guardiola, had just returned from a bad injury the last time Barcelona won the Champions League and watched on from the bench.

And despite featuring earlier on in the tournament that year, the Spain midfielder admits he is desperate to be involved in a Barca triumph this time around.

''I felt part of that win, but as a professional you want to be out there as a protagonist.

''It's a thorn in my side and I'm desperate for us to get there again so I can be part of it,'' he said.

Xavi believes his team are in better shape than this time last year.

''We are pressurising up front again, we are better tactically, we play with more intensity and more rhythm - and physically we are also better,'' he said.

But the midfielder, who has played a record 107 European games for Barcelona, believes the series will be decided at Stamford Bridge in two weeks.

''Whatever happens, it will be decided at Stamford Bridge... it's very difficult for a tie like this to be decided in the first match,'' he said.

Xavi praised Chelsea pair John Terry and Michael Essien, but hopes the Londoners will miss defensive duo Ricardo Carvalho (injured) and Ashley Cole (suspended).

He added: ''Essien is one of the best players in the world in his position - he's so good at breaking up play. Terry is one of the best defenders out there, he's an admirable footballer. Carvalho and Cole are notable absences, though, so let's hope they miss them.''

Had Cole been available, the left-back would have lined up against right winger Lionel Messi. Jose Bosingwa will now have that unenviable task, but Xavi believes the Argentina forward could be the key player in this tie.

''It's fantastic to have him in our squad and he could be the key man in this series.

''If we win titles and have success collectively, it will be easier for him to win awards like the FIFA World Player or the Golden Ball - he deserves them,'' he said.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Tallman on April 28, 2009, 07:22:18 AM
Anybody for $20 beers, check meh.

Whappen tuh de Hard Wine?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 28, 2009, 07:25:01 AM
Hiddink confident Bosingwa can shackle Messi  (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/2jb7l1.gif)

Guus Hiddink is confident that Jose Bosingwa can effectively shackle Barcelona winger Lionel Messi in the first leg of their Champions League semi-final in the Nou Camp.

The subject of how to stop Messi has dominated the pre-match build-up following the suspension of England left-back Ashley Cole.

It has left Chelsea without a recognised replacement following the sale of Wayne Bridge to Manchester City in January and an untimely knee ligament injury to Paulo Ferreira.

The answer for the Dutchman is to place his faith in the Portugal international.

Normally a right-back, Bosingwa switched to the other flank in the win over West Ham on Saturday but Argentina international Messi, scorer of 21 goals so far this season, is certain to provide him with more problems than Luis Boa Morte.

The Barca winger is now rated among the best in the world but Hiddink remains confident that Bosingwa's vast European and international experience will nullify his threat.

"At a young age, Messi is one of the best players in the world already," said Hiddink. "He is the kind of player who is playing in a big club because of his style of play.

"He had big promise and within a short period he has made it happen completely.

"I like very much the way he plays, he does like the stardom of playing and it's very effective. It looks very simple but it is very difficult.

"But I have full confidence that Bosingwa can do it the job tomorrow. We have some more options, but if he is doing well he can do the job.

"If you go to a double man-marking system and focus too much on that you forget there are other big players that can do the damage."

But it is not just Messi who can ruin Chelsea's dreams of returning to Stamford Bridge with a good result. Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto'o are equally as potent and Hiddink knows it only too well.

"A lot of teams have shown that it is very difficult to stop them," said Hiddink. "The front line is world class, Henry has class and experience and Samuel Eto'o I had as a young player at Real Madrid when he was 17. At that time he was already impressive and then he then got titles and experience."

Hiddink insists he has already played out the first-leg tie in his head and in team meetings, and the outcome has always been a victory. But the Dutchman knows that sometimes all the best laid plans can go awry.

"You try to analyse what can happen and whether it is within your power to prevent them playing well and for us to be dangerous.

"I said I'd never lost a match in preparation and meetings, but sometimes the reality is more cruel."

Chelsea and Liverpool produced one of the most exhilarating matches ever seen in the Champions League when they drew 4-4 in the quarter final, second leg at Stamford Bridge a fortnight ago.

Chelsea secured their semi-final spot 7-5 on aggregate after fighting back from two down at the interval and Hiddink hinted there could be more exciting times ahead at the Nou Camp.

"Both teams have the style to attack when they can," said Hiddink. "Chelsea is not a team with a strategy to sit back and wait until something happens.

"The team is showing a lot of initiative. It is more or less an open clash between two teams who like to go forward."

Barca are the only non-English club left in the last four of Europe's top club competition for the second year in a row.

The 2006 champions lost 1-0 on aggregate to eventual winners Manchester United in last year's semi-finals thanks to a Paul Scholes strike early in the second leg in England.

With the exception of long-term injury absentee Gabriel Milito, coach Pep Guardiola has a full squad to choose from following the Primera Liga leaders' 2-2 draw at fourth-placed Valencia on Saturday.

"We have to rest and recover well because we are about to begin the most important week of the year," the former Barca and Spain midfielder said.

"I did not see any tiredness in the players," he added. "We are like a machine."

Midfielder Seydou Keita said the Barca players were well acquainted with their opponents and singled out Chelsea's physical presence as their main strength.

"The coach is doing some great work in preparing us for the match," the Mali international said at a news conference.

"He makes us watch a lot of the other team's games and we analyse their weak points and the dangers we could face."
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 28, 2009, 08:23:57 AM
   
    GO CHELSEA!!!!    
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 28, 2009, 08:27:45 AM
clearly this is the more entertaining of the two semi-final matchups now that the teams are set.

This is the dream final that UEFA would wish for.
The best team in England and the best team in Spain battling it out for Europe's premier prize.


:rotfl: :rotfl:u make laugh they acb.u half right though.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 28, 2009, 08:48:38 AM
Hiddink: Bosingwa can tame Messiby RivalsDM
Guus Hiddink is confident Jose Bosingwa can shackle Lionel Messi in the first leg of their Champions League semi-final in Barcelona on Tuesday.

The subject of how to stop Messi has dominated the pre-match build-up following the suspension of England left-back Ashley Cole.

The answer for the Dutchman is to place his faith in the Portugal international.

Normally a right-back, Bosingwa switched to the other flank in the win over West Ham on Saturday but Argentina international Messi, scorer of 21 goals so far this season, is certain to provide him with more problems than Luis Boa Morte.

The Barca winger is now rated among the best in the world but Hiddink remains confident that Bosingwa's vast European and international experience will nullify his threat.

"At a young age, Messi is one of the best players in the world already," said Hiddink. "He is the kind of player who is playing in a big club because of his style of play.

"He had big promise and within a short period he has made it happen completely.

"I like very much the way he plays, he does like the stardom of playing and it's very effective. It looks very simple but it is very difficult.

"But I have full confidence that Bosingwa can do it the job tomorrow.

"We have some more options, but if he is doing well he can do the job.

"If you go to a double man-marking system and focus too much on that you forget there are other big players that can do the damage."

But it is not just Messi who can ruin Chelsea's dreams of returning to Stamford Bridge with a good result. Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto'o are equally as potent and Hiddink knows it only too well.


"A lot of teams have shown that it is very difficult to stop them," said Hiddink.

"The front line is world class, Henry has class and experience and Samuel Eto'o I had as a young player at Real Madrid when he was 17. At that time he was already impressive and then he then got titles and experience."

Barca are currently four points clear at the top of La Liga after a 2-2 draw with Valencia at the weekend.

A late equaliser from Henry earned a point for leaders after Messi had given them a first-half lead.

Hiddink insists he has already played out tomorrow's first-leg tie in his head and in team meetings, and the outcome has always been a victory.

But the Dutchman knows that sometimes all the best laid plans can go awry.

"You try to analyse what can happen and whether it is within your power to prevent them playing well and for us to be dangerous.

"I said I'd never lost a match in preparation and meetings,

but sometimes the reality is more cruel."

Chelsea and Liverpool produced one of the most exhilarating matches ever seen in the Champions League when they drew 4-4 in the quarter final, second leg at Stamford Bridge a fortnight ago.

Chelsea secured their semi-final spot 7-5 on aggregate after fighting back from two down at the interval and Hiddink hinted there could be more exciting times ahead at the Nou Camp.

"Both teams have the style to attack when they can," said Hiddink. "Chelsea is not a team with a strategy to sit back and wait until something happens.

"The team is showing a lot of initiative. It is more or less an open clash between two teams who like to go forward."
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 08:56:00 AM
clearly this is the more entertaining of the two semi-final matchups now that the teams are set.

This is the dream final that UEFA would wish for.
The best team in England and the best team in Spain battling it out for Europe's premier prize.


:rotfl: :rotfl:u make laugh they acb.u half right though.

the only way Arsenal vs. Man U could be more entertaining is if Viera and Keane suit up and square off in the tunnel.

I surprised by the lack of chainup talk coming from both camps, especially the managers - but I still don't expect Arsene to take a bottle of wine for Fergie. It still have more than 24 hours remaining though - just enough time for some bulletin board material.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: davidephraim on April 28, 2009, 10:00:47 AM
This side will beat Barca.

                         Petr Cech
Branislav Ivanović, Alex, John Terry, Ashley Cole
José Bosingwa, Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, Florent Malouda
           Nicolas Anelka, Didier Drogba

Subs - Joe Cole, Michael Ballack, John Obi Mikel, Deco, Salomon Kalou, Ricardo Carvalho, Paulo Ferreira, Franco Di Santo, Juliano Belletti and Ricardo Quaresma.

I think Chelsea needs to put pressure on Cech, give de back up keeper a few games and get Chec back into de game.

Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry, Yaya Touré, Carles Puyol, Sylvinho, Xavi and Samuel Eto is realy trouble though.

This go be a big game.


Bosingwa has been a defensive liability, but on a whole Chelsea's defending has been woeful in the past two games so not sure if it could get any worse than that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Deco get a run out against his former team from the start. He was supposed to be injured, but I see him sweat for Portugal the other day, so I expect him to be ready in two weeks. He could prove the foil to Barca quick counter strikes, because he's the one Chelsea player who can hold the ball skillfully and let others make their runs, whether it's an overlapping Bosingwa, Drogba and Anelka doing their thing up front, or Lampard cutting across the back of the two strikers. I also think Kalou will start ahead of Malouda in this game. Problem is Kalou is hit or miss, so it might just open up the opportunity for Obi Mikel.


Don't see the point of starting Deco in a game like this.

If Chelsea is going to win this, it won't be by outskillsing Barca or by any form of creativity, magic or individual brilliance.

Its better to play a tight 5 man midfield to stifle Barca's creativity and the supply line (Xavi/Iniesta) to the front 3. Then use their physical advantage in the form of Drogba/Anelka/Ballack on the offensive end to pound Barca into submission. Set pieces will be crucial and the long ball could be effective as Marquez/Puyol have shown to be susceptible. Play to your strengths, use power, pace and intensity.

The biggest problem is that left side of Chelsea's defence. Messi and Alves raiding down that side at Ashley Cole would have been bad enough but he's suspended for the first leg. If Ivanovic plays there, then Essien would have to always be coming back to help him out or it could be a repeat of the Del Horno shambles of years gone by. If I was coach I would even consider taking the chance and put Essien at left back as a buffer and start Obi Mikel in the middle.

For me this is my dream final.

Two of my favorite teams going head to head, although I favor Chelsea slightly for this one, but whatever the outcome I will be backing the winner of this tie to take the whole thing.

I agree with yuh dey fully Omar.

Manu vs Barca couldn't be better than this.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
watching some analysis before the game.

Messi vs Boswingwa (LB) on the right to start, but Messi favours his left foot, so when he drifts inside, it will naturally favour Bosingwa's stronger foot.
Malouda should be lining up just ahead of Bosingwa and could provide key counter-attacks when the Barca attacks breakdown on the Chelsea leftside.

When Anelka and Drogba on the field at the same time, Anelka drops deeper and could be a physical threat inthe middle of the park and winning more balls to offload to Drogba.

expect Belletti to start on the right opposite Bosingwa.

Quietly confident that Barca could be in for a long night if Chelsea forces Barca to adopt to Chelsea's style of play, rather than their free flowing attack.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
Quietly confident that Barca could be in for a long night if Chelsea forces Barca to adopt to Chelsea's style of play, rather than their free flowing attack.

Last time ah call fuh 3 we hit Livapuke 4 in deh rasshole.  But Barca might be slightly better so ah expekkin we to hit dem 2 in dey catalan cont!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 12:05:29 PM
few surprises in the lineups.

For Barca, No Puyol to start

No Anelka to start .... mids and defense for Chelsea

--- Malouda --- Lampard --- Essien --
-------- Ballack --- Obi Mikel --------- 
Bosingwa ---Alex --- Terry --- Ivanovic
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: samo on April 28, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
Lets go Chelsea!!!!
As Optimus say... Goal in dey Catalan (!)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 12:30:01 PM
Only the 2nd game of the season that giving me a lil butterflies...

This going to be a battle and I hope Barca get through. Besides being my favorite club team, I really cyah handle another all EPL final. We have the FA Cup and Carling Cup for dat ;)


Go Barca!
Go Arsenal!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Shaka just predict Barca wins 3-1
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 12:32:54 PM
Go chelsea - go EPL  8)


once Drogs and Lamps show up, is pressure for barca.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bourbon on April 28, 2009, 12:33:38 PM
No streams or wha?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
Shaka just predict Barca wins 3-1

Once is not Pele predicting dat..I good
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Jah Gol on April 28, 2009, 12:37:27 PM
Barca 4-0.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
No streams or wha?

check atdhe.net

refresh if you getting crap
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 12:38:48 PM
Barca 4-0.

In yuh flickin dreams fella.  De Blues ressin ah solid 2 in deh cont!! Is either we win or ah draw!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: jimmel14 on April 28, 2009, 12:39:12 PM
any l inks for the game!!!!!!?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Come on, Barca!!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
Chelsea Yellow kit look sweet though.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:44:40 PM
Barca 4-0.

In yuh flickin dreams fella.  De Blues ressin ah solid 2 in deh cont!! Is either we win or ah draw!

You rel funny.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2009, 12:47:52 PM
Chelsea Yellow kit look sweet though.

  adidas kit does look nice in any colour!   ;)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:48:18 PM
The writing is on the wall. Chelsea's days are numbered.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
The writing is on the wall. Chelsea's days are numbered.

Welcome to civilization Toppa :)

But I know you crossing back to the next side this weekend.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 12:54:00 PM
The writing is on the wall. Chelsea's days minutes are numbered.
fixed
well in this match ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
The writing is on the wall. Chelsea's days are numbered.

Welcome to civilization Toppa :)

But I know you crossing back to the next side this weekend.

Ah glad yuh know! This is only La Liga solidarity yuh seeing here.

 :devil:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 28, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
The writing is on the wall. Chelsea's days are numbered.

   Any team's days are numbered against this year's Barca side (ent dey playin' allyuh dis weekend?  :devil:) But with Cech's inconsistency this season and Chelsea's defenders always being a mistake and/or a foul waiting to happen, I really don't see them being able to pull through against Barca in this tie.  No shame in losing to the best team in the world at the semi final stage, though.  



 
     ***edited***  ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
Dem really put he to mark Messi?

Dem eh serious.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: jimmel14 on April 28, 2009, 01:16:25 PM
anybody have any working links. for this game...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 01:16:39 PM
That's 2 crazy yellow card now.
1st one Alex never touched Messi, dive and Alex get a yellow.
2nd one Ballack hit the bal and take Henry he get a yellow.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:16:45 PM
game going boring
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:17:18 PM
That's 2 crazy yellow card now.
1st one Alex never touched Messi, dive and Alex get a yellow.
2nd one Ballack hit the bal and take Henry he get a yellow.

barca getting all the calls so far
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 01:20:53 PM
game going boring

Cos only one team playing.

I just waiting for the dam to break.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Waaaay. Marquez...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:32:41 PM
Waaaay. Marquez...

 :rotfl:

damn! it nearly break
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 01:34:43 PM
game going boring

Cos only one team playing.

I just waiting for the dam to break.

The dam have to get pressure first. 
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: RedDevils on April 28, 2009, 01:36:21 PM
i could see chelski nikkin ah 1-0 back to de bridge, they starting to fustrate barca and yaya go get send off in de second half.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: scarface on April 28, 2009, 01:37:27 PM
No streams or wha?

any l inks for the game!!!!!!?

http://atdhe.net/6652/watch-barcelona-vs-chelsea

http://atdhe.net/6653/watch-barcelona-vs-chelsea
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 01:41:21 PM
could look at it two ways:

1. Barca dominated, but the end result must be frustrating at the half - already evident from the constant whining to the ref. Definitely had more chances - not better chance(s) - and failing to capitalize

2. Chelsea is sticking to their game plan, evident from their team selection and formation. Even the colour of the uniform is a clue that they essentially park a bus with every single man defending - inculding Drogba.

Essien and Malouda have been non-existent in the roles they have been asked to play because they're not playing wide unless they're defending.

Lampard has been woefully out of position many times BUT he has been busy with Iniesta who is just turning and ghosting Chelsea players at will.

Good job by Ballack and Obi Mikel to contain. Obi Mikel have alot of good touches so far, but Ballack keeps getting set up by Essien short plays.

Cech is looking a bit nervous, but Terry is marshalling the defence well so far.

Drogba shouldve scored that one goal TWICE and hopefully will not rue those chances at the end of the 2nd 45. Needs to stop rolling around the ground and get up and get on with the game. Already don't have much numbers up front, so he need to pick it up a bit.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Belletti, Anelka or even Kalou starting the 2nd, or coming on 10 mins in.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 01:41:40 PM
ok i jez view de hilites and de Drog go buss dat dam :devil:
aye allya backs, contain him nuh
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
could look at it two ways:

1. Barca dominated, but the end result must be frustrating at the half - already evident from the constant whining to the ref. Definitely had more chances - not better chance(s) - and failing to capitalize

2. Chelsea is sticking to their game plan, evident from their team selection and formation. Even the colour of the uniform is a clue that they essentially park a bus with every single man defending - inculding Drogba.

Essien and Malouda have been non-existent in the roles they have been asked to play because they're not playing wide unless they're defending.

Lampard has been woefully out of position many times BUT he has been busy with Iniesta who is just turning and ghosting Chelsea players at will.

Good job by Ballack and Obi Mikel to contain. Obi Mikel have alot of good touches so far, but Ballack keeps getting set up by Essien short plays.

Cech is looking a bit nervous, but Terry is marshalling the defence well so far.

Drogba shouldve scored that one goal TWICE and hopefully will not rue those chances at the end of the 2nd 45. Needs to stop rolling around the ground and get up and get on with the game. Already don't have much numbers up front, so he need to pick it up a bit.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Belletti, Anelka or even Kalou starting the 2nd, or coming on 10 mins in.

Essien is doing a very good job. Malouda is the outlet player not Essien.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Observer on April 28, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:50:32 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

so u want chelsea to go out and play barca game?
steups

Go chelsea.... allyuh go bus the net just now
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 01:51:53 PM
Barca 4-0.

In yuh flickin dreams fella.  De Blues ressin ah solid 2 in deh cont!! Is either we win or ah draw!

You rel funny.

Either a win or a draw nutten in between.  Valdez geh wey in de fuss half doh!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
shitz, marquez gone down on his own injured
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 01:54:51 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 01:55:46 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

so u want chelsea to go out and play barca game?
steups

Go chelsea.... allyuh go bus the net just now
Barca betta smarten up
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
doh like to see too many players get injured like what happen to Marquez but = bad news for Barca (& Chelsea) ... good news for Trinidad.  ;)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 01:57:52 PM
This ref is having a laugh. Mikel sheild Toure off the ball, and Toure riding Mikel back and Barcelona get the foul. WTH.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 01:59:29 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

 :rotfl:

Aye gun from here nah yuh blastid undercover ManUre fan
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 01:59:49 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

lol...only from a chelsea supporter eh
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 02:01:00 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

Man U used those same tactics last year and were successful, so I doubt it was cowardly approach back then.
... and I doubt you will be willing to concede that they have little to offer and would be seriously outclassed.
... but it wasn't the first time we see a Fergie side play in that manner.

But say what, is Chelsea vs Barca, and only if you're a true football fan yuh could be totally engrossed, entertained  and appreciate the tactical battle so far.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 02:01:14 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

 :rotfl:

Alyuh shoulda try some of this vs  Liverpuddle. Mighta been watching them instead of The Blues.  :devil:

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 02:01:34 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

 :rotfl:

Aye gun from here nah yuh blastid undercover ManUre fan
who is de Manure fan?
Not Toppa ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2009, 02:02:51 PM
It looks like Alves more pre-occupied with things other than playing the way he is capable of playing. All the pressure on Barca to produce, Chelski doen't have to do shite!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 02:04:29 PM
Drogba get a shot of smelling salts...he almost shyte heself.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 02:04:48 PM
It looks like Alves more pre-occupied with things other than playing the way he is capable of playing. All the pressure on Barca to produce, Chelski doen't have to do shite!

If dey doh have to do shit, why alla dem standing up infont the goal?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 02:07:01 PM
what is this
the Champions League of Attrition or wha
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
Lampard playing real shyte.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: WestCoast on April 28, 2009, 02:09:23 PM
nice one fat boy  :devil:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2009, 02:11:48 PM
It looks like Alves more pre-occupied with things other than playing the way he is capable of playing. All the pressure on Barca to produce, Chelski doen't have to do shite!

If dey doh have to do shit, why alla dem standing up infont the goal?

Do shit other than prevent Barca from scoring- wait I didn't type that also?  :devil: Damn keyboard!

Barca over elaborating- shoot the damn ball already!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2009, 02:14:13 PM
Lampard playing real shyte.

Yuh call Guss or wat? I doh think I have ever seen Lumpard subbed with Chelski drawin.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 02:16:01 PM
Lawd if ah was a true Barca fan ah woulda cry oui.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 02:20:50 PM
come on bring on anelka for malouda
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2009, 02:21:56 PM
I would love tuh hear what some of the ole talk that dos be going on between players. mike them up for extra entertainment.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 28, 2009, 02:23:02 PM
Barca really need to try and shoot a couple earlier, see if that helps open some space behind the defence. Chelsea doing a good job in keeping Barca out in front of them. Let's see if Krkic can make a difference when he comes on. No gaffes from Cech so far.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
Barca really need to try and shoot a couple earlier, see if that helps open some space behind the defence. Chelsea doing a good job in keeping Barca out in front of them. Let's see if Krkic can make a difference when he comes on. No gaffes from Cech so far.

They try that in the first half...did not work too well for them (Barca).


What a shyte call on Ballack.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: giggsy11 on April 28, 2009, 02:33:20 PM
He leave it and Messi would have had a tap in.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 28, 2009, 02:33:58 PM
They try that in the first half...did not work too well for them (Barca).

What a shyte call on Ballack.

The shot isn't to score per se, it is to force Chelsea to step up so they can play it behind them. Basically like the one Krkic now miss.

The fact that Ballack didn't get a second yellow or the fact that the ref gave it a foul? While he played the man I felt that Iniesta played for the card rather than go on to get the ball.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 28, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
I see why Hleb don't play much.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Babalawo on April 28, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
Peter Cech playing he heart out today on this one
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 28, 2009, 02:35:29 PM
Barca only have 1 gameplan and formation. Last year united had at least 3 to use and every1 can see how to annoy and stop barca from scoring.  Now Chelsea will go to the bridge and barca will be without 2 CB's. Smart
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 28, 2009, 02:37:07 PM
He leave it and Messi would have had a tap in.

Leave it? It was easier to head it in than volley it in, which is what Messi would have needed to do. Just a bad bad miss.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 28, 2009, 02:37:39 PM
If Chelsea score now it serve Barca right.

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 02:39:49 PM
did messi get subbed of 2nd half?  ::)

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under all the old talk, all the men who defending chelsea tactics was bashing Utd last year for doing a better job at it.
Watch them big up they side now.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
hmmm ... so who still picking Barca to roll over Chelsea?

Ah wonder if anybody going to call out Shaka for that 3-1 prediction?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dwolfman on April 28, 2009, 02:42:45 PM
90 minutes (minimum) to play now. Chelsea should be satisfied with the result. I thought they defended well without playing negative football. You always felt like they were looking for a quick counter attack. Barca were a little too intricate in their (now predictable) short passing against a tightly packed defence. Some more crosses and longer range shots to try and draw Chelsea out might have been a welcomed change.

Looking forward to see how the 2nd leg progresses in London. Will Chelsea open up more? Will Barca try to play more defensively? I still think it's Barca's tie to lose, but obviously Chelsea are in a good position.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 02:42:51 PM
 :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


Result oriented game plan, not bad.

What ever happened to Messi, Iniesta and Xavi?



Nah Chelsea eh do that bad. United had line/walls, Chelsea had group bid difference.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 02:42:54 PM
If Chelsea score now it serve Barca right.



Yuh want half ah de lotto numbers?  Ah din get meh 2 goals but ah get de draw doh.

Gun from here ManUre in Barca clothing! :rotfl:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: D.H.W on April 28, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
LOL @ BARCA  :D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 02:45:58 PM
Advantage Chelsea. but 90 to go.

Home team has two main missions, the more important of which is to win. Barca only got the 2nd one right, and that is to try not to concede. So I'm marginally happy with that, but Chelsea did a job and should be the happier squad. It's going to be super difficult at Stanford Bridge, especially with no Marquez and no Puyol.

Althugh this is a stronger Barca than last year, this was a real deja vu semifinal compared to the one against ManU.

On to the Superclasico...

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 28, 2009, 02:47:52 PM
MOM

Barca - Iniesta
Chelsea - Cech
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
If Chelsea score now it serve Barca right.



whoah...you do good, but no madridista could back de enemy for 90 +5. it was bound to come out  ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 02:54:01 PM

Nah Chelsea eh do that bad. United had line/walls, Chelsea had group bid difference.

 :rotfl:

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


Result oriented game plan, not bad.

What ever happened to Messi, Iniesta and Xavi?



Nah Chelsea eh do that bad. United had line/walls, Chelsea had group bid difference.

Seems like the latter two actually had good games, no?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 02:56:30 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

Agreed.  Some serious bitch football dey from so called "big side" chelsea.

Tactical my ass.  They play like T&T in Germany 2006.  T&T knew we was outclassed and play how we had to play to be competitive.  Guess Chelsea felt the same way in this match.  "Big side" doh play so doh.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2009, 02:58:03 PM
It looks like Alves more pre-occupied with things other than playing the way he is capable of playing. All the pressure on Barca to produce, Chelski doen't have to do shite!

If dey doh have to do shit, why alla dem standing up infont the goal?

Because they not doing shit else, lol.

Anyways they deserved to have won simply on account of the shit that Krkic and Hleb do in the last 5 mins
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2009, 02:59:28 PM
The shot isn't to score per se, it is to force Chelsea to step up so they can play it behind them. Basically like the one Krkic now miss.

The fact that Ballack didn't get a second yellow or the fact that the ref gave it a foul? While he played the man I felt that Iniesta played for the card rather than go on to get the ball.

Lol Iniesta fall but make sure he somehow end up in de box holding he face  :rotfl:

I have no respect for dem La Liga teams... none.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 03:01:57 PM
90 minutes (minimum) to play now. Chelsea should be satisfied with the result. I thought they defended well without playing negative football. You always felt like they were looking for a quick counter attack. Barca were a little too intricate in their (now predictable) short passing against a tightly packed defence. Some more crosses and longer range shots to try and draw Chelsea out might have been a welcomed change.

Looking forward to see how the 2nd leg progresses in London. Will Chelsea open up more? Will Barca try to play more defensively? I still think it's Barca's tie to lose, but obviously Chelsea are in a good position.

given the 2 superb chances created in injury time, it can't be that predictable :)

It can be frustrating to watch at times, but Barca falls into that school of teams that (appears to) believe in the way they play and hardly change unless they are under pressure. At least it seems that way sometimes. They're obviously more tactically astute than that, but it seems like today, they stuck with it and eventually opened up Chelsea at the death. Both Bojan and Hleb should have scored. Some teams seem like that and that can often yield wonderfual results and plaudits, other times, it's just really frustrating. Didn't see the game..but based on the description of the chances Bojan and Hleb missed it seems like Barca was justified in continuing with the 'it's only a matter of time' game-plan. they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bourbon on April 28, 2009, 03:03:40 PM
did messi get subbed of 2nd half?  ::)

-------------

under all the old talk, all the men who defending chelsea tactics was bashing Utd last year for doing a better job at it.
Watch them big up they side now.

I notice de same ting.....buh i thought was my imagination.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
90 minutes (minimum) to play now. Chelsea should be satisfied with the result. I thought they defended well without playing negative football. You always felt like they were looking for a quick counter attack. Barca were a little too intricate in their (now predictable) short passing against a tightly packed defence. Some more crosses and longer range shots to try and draw Chelsea out might have been a welcomed change.

Looking forward to see how the 2nd leg progresses in London. Will Chelsea open up more? Will Barca try to play more defensively? I still think it's Barca's tie to lose, but obviously Chelsea are in a good position.

given the 2 superb chances created in injury time, it can't be that predictable :)

It can be frustrating to watch at times, but Barca falls into that school of teams that (appears to) believe in the way they play and hardly change unless they are under pressure. Today, they stuck with it and eventually opened up Chelsea at the death. Both Bojan and Hleb should have scored. Some teams seem like that and that can often yield wonderfual results and plaudits, other times, it's frustrating. Didn't see the game..but based on the description of the chances Bojan and Hleb missed it seems like Barca was justified in continuing with the 'it's only a matter of time' game-plan. they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Neither of those two chances were the result of that "intricate passing game" though.  An argument could be made for the thru ball to Hleb, but not the cross to Krkric from Alves.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 03:06:11 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: capodetutticapi on April 28, 2009, 03:08:24 PM
hard luck barca.win it on de road.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 03:16:44 PM
If Chelsea is such ah big side, why dem playing so? Man talking about game plan, a team costing more than a small country should show dem could play too. Just sitting down and absorbing pressure is a cowardly approach. That sort of tactic should be left to teams that know they have very little to offer and will be seriously outclassed. This is the first time I ever see a Guss Hiddink team play in this manner.

Agreed.  Some serious bitch football dey from so called "big side" chelsea.

Tactical my ass.  They play like T&T in Germany 2006.  T&T knew we was outclassed and play how we had to play to be competitive.  Guess Chelsea felt the same way in this match.  "Big side" doh play so doh.

I agree that big teams don't play that way.

However, Chelsea defensive game was in the middle of the field not in the defensive end really. Chelsea happy in letting Barcelona have the ball why did they not make Chelsea pay for that? Chlesea still had the best chance of the game.

You really think Chelsea could not go at Barcelona? Look from the 30 minute in the 1st and the 75" in the 2nd and see the difference and ability in Chelsea being able to take the game to Barcelona.

Barcelona for their ability should have palyed faster, they were to methodical in their build up. Almost everyting they did you could see it coming.

Say what, we will see at Stamford Bridge.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 28, 2009, 03:18:27 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 28, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
NOw i am all for tactics and game plan but,How can a side that is labeled as a big side play another side and have 10 men behind the ball from minute 1. its getting boring now. manu did it last year now chelsea. damn i want to see football.  i was telling all the chelsea fans if  chelse doesn't sit deep and counter they will get serious licks, only 2 "english teams can go toe to toe with barca, arsenal and liverpool. the others have to resort to this unattractive thing. too bad one of those freekicks didnt go in,cause it seems like all chelsea players wanted to trade shirts with the barca players  b4 90 mins.

win or lose i really hope chelsea come out and play football next game
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.

Onus on Chelsea is to WIN at home.  In order to WIN, they have to SCORE....something that they've had trouble doing pretty much the 2nd half of the season.  IMO, Chelsea is under more pressure than Barca in the return leg.  Heaven help them if they have to play catch up at all, because then they'll be fodder for Barca.

Neither team is "MY TEAM" but I am a fan of good football.  I hate to see a team that has the calibre of players as Chelsea does play BITCH FOOTBALL.  It's not necessary and it betrays a mindset of basic insecurity.  Some might call it "smart".  Not me.  For me, it's cowardly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chelsea play for penalties from the kick off in the return leg.  If dat is how yuh "win" at dis level....keep yuh "win".  I admit I have zero emotional investment in either side so "winning" isn't paramount for me as it would be say for T&T.  For me, the team that actually plays football instead of trying to deny the opposition of playing football would be my preference.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 03:24:43 PM
90 minutes (minimum) to play now. Chelsea should be satisfied with the result. I thought they defended well without playing negative football. You always felt like they were looking for a quick counter attack. Barca were a little too intricate in their (now predictable) short passing against a tightly packed defence. Some more crosses and longer range shots to try and draw Chelsea out might have been a welcomed change.

Looking forward to see how the 2nd leg progresses in London. Will Chelsea open up more? Will Barca try to play more defensively? I still think it's Barca's tie to lose, but obviously Chelsea are in a good position.

given the 2 superb chances created in injury time, it can't be that predictable :)

It can be frustrating to watch at times, but Barca falls into that school of teams that (appears to) believe in the way they play and hardly change unless they are under pressure. Today, they stuck with it and eventually opened up Chelsea at the death. Both Bojan and Hleb should have scored. Some teams seem like that and that can often yield wonderfual results and plaudits, other times, it's frustrating. Didn't see the game..but based on the description of the chances Bojan and Hleb missed it seems like Barca was justified in continuing with the 'it's only a matter of time' game-plan. they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Neither of those two chances were the result of that "intricate passing game" though.  An argument could be made for the thru ball to Hleb, but not the cross to Krkric from Alves.

Seen. I hear yah. Like I said, I didn't see the game. But you actually lending to my argument that they not all that perdictable :) At the same time, I was really talking of their 'intricate passing game' as the general manner of play, and not the direct source of all goalscoring opportunities. Barca scores lots of goals off individualism, crosses, long balls, dead balls, shots from distance..etc, while still playing a fast paced short passing game. My point was that they don't usually abondon their general style or philosophy even if the actual goalscoring opportunities come from varied types of play.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 03:37:09 PM
NOw i am all for tactics and game plan but,How can a side that is labeled as a big side play another side and have 10 men behind the ball from minute 1. its getting boring now. manu did it last year now chelsea. damn i want to see football.  i was telling all the chelsea fans if  chelse doesn't sit deep and counter they will get serious licks, only 2 "english teams can go toe to toe with barca, arsenal and liverpool. the others have to resort to this unattractive thing. too bad one of those freekicks didnt go in,cause it seems like all chelsea players wanted to trade shirts with the barca players  b4 90 mins.

win or lose i really hope chelsea come out and play football next game

U jus sour yuh shit side couldn't capitalize.  For all the talk bout big side doh play so allyuh talkin shit.  Big side does play so.  the difference with a big side and a small side playing like that is the big side can much easier execute it correctly and sustain.  That is the reason why when Sunderland did it at ManUre they failed.  That's the reason why despite our best efforts the warriors didn't succeed against england @ WC06.  So doh talk no shit in allyuh ass.  All who talkin dat shit only vex because despite the 4-0 and all other jackass predictions, Barca come away with a 0-0 draw at home.  Barca will suck salt in de bridge.  Ah hope allyuh eh run from allyuh crow (fuh all those who was touting Barca's unstopable form).  50 Straight games they score ah goal and overmatched (as some ah allyuh made it seem) Chelsea (De small side) held them scoreless.  Yeah Barca form rell sick boi!! :rotfl:

They will get 3 in dey cont in de bridge mark my words!!!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.

Onus on Chelsea is to WIN at home.  In order to WIN, they have to SCORE....something that they've had trouble doing pretty much the 2nd half of the season.  IMO, Chelsea is under more pressure than Barca in the return leg.  Heaven help them if they have to play catch up at all, because then they'll be fodder for Barca.

Neither team is "MY TEAM" but I am a fan of good football.  I hate to see a team that has the calibre of players as Chelsea does play BITCH FOOTBALL.  It's not necessary and it betrays a mindset of basic insecurity.  Some might call it "smart".  Not me.  For me, it's cowardly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chelsea play for penalties from the kick off in the return leg.  If dat is how yuh "win" at dis level....keep yuh "win".  I admit I have zero emotional investment in either side so "winning" isn't paramount for me as it would be say for T&T.  For me, the team that actually plays football instead of trying to deny the opposition of playing football would be my preference.

How much goals we score in the last 4 or 5 games?!  The way you state this you'd swear the blues in ah drought.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 28, 2009, 03:41:57 PM
dude
NOw i am all for tactics and game plan but,How can a side that is labeled as a big side play another side and have 10 men behind the ball from minute 1. its getting boring now. manu did it last year now chelsea. damn i want to see football.  i was telling all the chelsea fans if  chelse doesn't sit deep and counter they will get serious licks, only 2 "english teams can go toe to toe with barca, arsenal and liverpool. the others have to resort to this unattractive thing. too bad one of those freekicks didnt go in,cause it seems like all chelsea players wanted to trade shirts with the barca players  b4 90 mins.

win or lose i really hope chelsea come out and play football next game

U jus sour yuh shit side couldn't capitalize.  For all the talk bout big side doh play so allyuh talkin shit.  Big side does play so.  the difference with a big side and a small side playing like that is the big side can much easier execute it correctly and sustain.  That is the reason why when Sunderland did it at ManUre they failed.  That's the reason why despite our best efforts the warriors didn't succeed against england @ WC06.  So doh talk no shit in allyuh ass.  All who talkin dat shit only vex because despite the 4-0 and all other jackass predictions, Barca come away with a 0-0 draw at home.  Barca will suck salt in de bridge.  Ah hope allyuh eh run from allyuh crow (fuh all those who was touting Barca's unstopable form).  50 Straight games they score ah goal and overmatched (as some ah allyuh made it seem) Chelsea (De small side) held them scoreless.  Yeah Barca form rell sick boi!! :rotfl:

They will get 3 in dey cont in de bridge mark my words!!!!
.

dude i need to know what drug yuh taking. from yuh text i gather that its cheap and very potent :rotfl:

now  i am a football fan b4 i am a barca fan. that was not a game of football .chelsea was a team with star players playing real coward. i want them to play so at the bridge and see if they n get boo off the pitch by their own fans
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bakes on April 28, 2009, 03:42:38 PM
Seen. I hear yah. Like I said, I didn't see the game. But you actually lending to my argument that they not all that perdictable :) At the same time, I was really talking of their 'intricate passing game' as the general manner of play, and not the direct source of all goalscoring opportunities. Barca scores lots of goals off individualism, crosses, long balls, dead balls, shots from distance..etc, while still playing a fast paced short passing game. My point was that they don't usually abondon their general style or philosophy even if the actual goalscoring opportunities come from varied types of play.

I only see the last 20 mins mihself... and much as with Arsenal I love de short passing game despite years of EPL conditioning lol.  But like most critics ah find dey does over do it.  Barca were guilty of it in the last 20 too, but I think the final flurry was more the product of desperation than them adapting to what Chelsea were doing.  In fact they were trying to be stubborn with their style... but you can't short pass yuh way thru 10 men in the defensive third.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dinho on April 28, 2009, 03:43:40 PM
for the sake of clarity, lets make some key distinctions between this game and the man utd v barcelona 2nd leg game from last season.

1. Man Utd were the favorite in that game and being lauded as playing the best football on the planet. Chelsea was a rank underdog in this one.
2. Man Utd were at home at Old trafford, Chelsea is away at Barca.
3. Barcelona was in free-fall domestically and the team was disjointed. The Barca team today is the world's best.
4. This was the 2nd leg where the result was on the line, not the 1st leg where the play is almost always more measured and tentative.


So man like sammy et al need to hold dey horse trying to get that bly. All the points above and yet still Man Utd came out last year and played the brand we saw from Chelsea today.

I'm not trying to be a hypocrite. Chelsea played some ugly stuff today and personally its not what I like to see.

But there's no need to try to exonerate the anti-thesis of football that Manchester played last season while they were in the driver's seat by comparing it with Chelsea this game. Apples and oranges.

Chelsea played to a game plan; a plan that recognized Barcelona as technically the better team and the need to use their advantage in the physical department, and they executed it perfectly. This a great result for them going into the second leg. And for all their brilliance, Barcelona still showed weakness today.. They got frustrated too easily and put off their game. I find they look kinda nervous and let their rhythm get upset when they coulda take their time and break Chelsea down.

On to the next leg...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 03:44:58 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

yeah. if Barca tied Chelsea 0-0 at the bridge and was returning to Camp Nou, I woulda say Barca has the advantage. Chelsea would only be wary of conceding first. Also, the longer the game goes on at 0-0, the better for the away side. But in general, Chelsea should feel they got half the job done. Barca..not so much. It's not a huge advantage, but an advantage nonetheless
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 03:45:07 PM
dude
NOw i am all for tactics and game plan but,How can a side that is labeled as a big side play another side and have 10 men behind the ball from minute 1. its getting boring now. manu did it last year now chelsea. damn i want to see football.  i was telling all the chelsea fans if  chelse doesn't sit deep and counter they will get serious licks, only 2 "english teams can go toe to toe with barca, arsenal and liverpool. the others have to resort to this unattractive thing. too bad one of those freekicks didnt go in,cause it seems like all chelsea players wanted to trade shirts with the barca players  b4 90 mins.

win or lose i really hope chelsea come out and play football next game

U jus sour yuh shit side couldn't capitalize.  For all the talk bout big side doh play so allyuh talkin shit.  Big side does play so.  the difference with a big side and a small side playing like that is the big side can much easier execute it correctly and sustain.  That is the reason why when Sunderland did it at ManUre they failed.  That's the reason why despite our best efforts the warriors didn't succeed against england @ WC06.  So doh talk no shit in allyuh ass.  All who talkin dat shit only vex because despite the 4-0 and all other jackass predictions, Barca come away with a 0-0 draw at home.  Barca will suck salt in de bridge.  Ah hope allyuh eh run from allyuh crow (fuh all those who was touting Barca's unstopable form).  50 Straight games they score ah goal and overmatched (as some ah allyuh made it seem) Chelsea (De small side) held them scoreless.  Yeah Barca form rell sick boi!! :rotfl:

They will get 3 in dey cont in de bridge mark my words!!!!
.

dude i need to know what drug yuh taking. from yuh text i gather that its cheap and very potent :rotfl:

now  i am a football fan b4 i am a barca fan. that was not a game of football .chelsea was a team with star players playing real coward. i want them to play so at the bridge and see if they n get boo off the pitch by their own fans

Yeah I on drugs, ent?!!  But you talking bout Chelsea playing like that at home  :rotfl:

Fella that was a road strategy.  The idea being not to conceed any goals and try to capitalize on counter oppotunities.  You really think that will be the gameplan at the Bridge?!!  Salt fuh Barca an 3 in dey cont!!  Ah hope yuh mark dat dong eh!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Big Magician on April 28, 2009, 03:51:38 PM
did latas pick de local based players for training yet ???
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 28, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
tactically barca didnt exploit the henry ivanovic match up enough. the man had to keep grabbing at henry shirt tail.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 03:57:08 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.

Onus on Chelsea is to WIN at home.  In order to WIN, they have to SCORE....something that they've had trouble doing pretty much the 2nd half of the season.  IMO, Chelsea is under more pressure than Barca in the return leg.  Heaven help them if they have to play catch up at all, because then they'll be fodder for Barca.

Neither team is "MY TEAM" but I am a fan of good football.  I hate to see a team that has the calibre of players as Chelsea does play BITCH FOOTBALL.  It's not necessary and it betrays a mindset of basic insecurity.  Some might call it "smart".  Not me.  For me, it's cowardly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chelsea play for penalties from the kick off in the return leg.  If dat is how yuh "win" at dis level....keep yuh "win".  I admit I have zero emotional investment in either side so "winning" isn't paramount for me as it would be say for T&T.  For me, the team that actually plays football instead of trying to deny the opposition of playing football would be my preference.

How much goals we score in the last 4 or 5 games?!  The way you state this you'd swear the blues in ah drought.

Last 5 home games for Chelflee  ;D

0-0 against Everton
4-3 against Bolton...Bolton?  WTF!!
1-0 against Man City...a nex weak defence
2-1 against Wigan
0-0 against Hull...relegation side

And again....daz HOME games eh... "BIG SIDE" ent? ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dinho on April 28, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.

Onus on Chelsea is to WIN at home.  In order to WIN, they have to SCORE....something that they've had trouble doing pretty much the 2nd half of the season.  IMO, Chelsea is under more pressure than Barca in the return leg.  Heaven help them if they have to play catch up at all, because then they'll be fodder for Barca.

Neither team is "MY TEAM" but I am a fan of good football.  I hate to see a team that has the calibre of players as Chelsea does play BITCH FOOTBALL.  It's not necessary and it betrays a mindset of basic insecurity.  Some might call it "smart".  Not me.  For me, it's cowardly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chelsea play for penalties from the kick off in the return leg.  If dat is how yuh "win" at dis level....keep yuh "win".  I admit I have zero emotional investment in either side so "winning" isn't paramount for me as it would be say for T&T.  For me, the team that actually plays football instead of trying to deny the opposition of playing football would be my preference.

How much goals we score in the last 4 or 5 games?!  The way you state this you'd swear the blues in ah drought.

Last 5 home games for Chelflee  ;D

0-0 against Everton
4-3 against Bolton...Bolton?  WTF!!
1-0 against Man City...a nex weak defence
2-1 against Wigan
0-0 against Hull...relegation side

And again....daz HOME games eh... "BIG SIDE" ent? ;D

what happen, yuh google button doh pick up champs league or wha?

which part the Liverpool 4-4 play?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
for the sake of clarity, lets make some key distinctions between this game and the man utd v barcelona 2nd leg game from last season.

1. Man Utd were the favorite in that game and being lauded as playing the best football on the planet. Chelsea was a rank underdog in this one.
2. Man Utd were at home at Old trafford, Chelsea is away at Barca.
3. Barcelona was in free-fall domestically and the team was disjointed. The Barca team today is the world's best.
4. This was the 2nd leg where the result was on the line, not the 1st leg where the play is almost always more measured and tentative.


So man like sammy et al need to hold dey horse trying to get that bly. All the points above and yet still Man Utd came out last year and played the brand we saw from Chelsea today.

I'm not trying to be a hypocrite. Chelsea played some ugly stuff today and personally its not what I like to see.

But there's no need to try to exonerate the anti-thesis of football that Manchester played last season while they were in the driver's seat by comparing it with Chelsea this game. Apples and oranges.

Chelsea played to a game plan; a plan that recognized Barcelona as technically the better team and the need to use their advantage in the physical department, and they executed it perfectly. This a great result for them going into the second leg. And for all their brilliance, Barcelona still showed weakness today.. They got frustrated too easily and put off their game. I find they look kinda nervous and let their rhythm get upset when they coulda take their time and break Chelsea down.

On to the next leg...


Omar..I thought I read people  comparing the game to the manU v Barca 1st leg which was also at Camp Nou and also ended 0-0.

Also..I understand the difference between the two Barca squads' forms, but this Barca has won nothing yet. How are they the world's best? They can play some attractive football and blow out some sides...but they've also struggled against some mediocre La Liga sides. And no team in the top 4 in the EPL is a 'rank' underdog to any team on the planet. Chelsea was the underdog cuz but I'm still kinda amazed people tought it was gonna be a blowout. Plus we all know, it doesn't matter how good a team is..all that matters is how they match up against each other.and noone could tell how Chelsea was going to match up with Barca until they actually played

Also cannot hate on Chelsea. As much as I like attractive football, I also enjoy a good tactical battle. Didn't see the game, but sounds like others I've seen and probably would have enjoyed if I were a Chelsea fan. And at this stage...results also come first.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 04:03:02 PM
what happen, yuh google button doh pick up champs league or wha?

which part the Liverpool 4-4 play?

Doh study da imps, lmao like he fuhget de 7 we gih Liverpuddle is part ah de last 5 nah
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 04:03:36 PM
did latas pick de local based players for training yet ???

better yuh ask dat on the ManU v Arsenal thread tomorrow. Small Mag could tell yuh  ;)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
they'll need something different now that Chelsea is in the driver's seat

Yuh really feel Chelsea in de driver's seat?

Hell yeah Chelsea in the driver seat. Chelsea played low and Barcelona defender still had problems with Drogba, no serious penetration in the middle and contained Messi and Henry on the side. Come on.

Onus on Chelsea is to WIN at home.  In order to WIN, they have to SCORE....something that they've had trouble doing pretty much the 2nd half of the season.  IMO, Chelsea is under more pressure than Barca in the return leg.  Heaven help them if they have to play catch up at all, because then they'll be fodder for Barca.

Neither team is "MY TEAM" but I am a fan of good football.  I hate to see a team that has the calibre of players as Chelsea does play BITCH FOOTBALL.  It's not necessary and it betrays a mindset of basic insecurity.  Some might call it "smart".  Not me.  For me, it's cowardly.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chelsea play for penalties from the kick off in the return leg.  If dat is how yuh "win" at dis level....keep yuh "win".  I admit I have zero emotional investment in either side so "winning" isn't paramount for me as it would be say for T&T.  For me, the team that actually plays football instead of trying to deny the opposition of playing football would be my preference.

How much goals we score in the last 4 or 5 games?!  The way you state this you'd swear the blues in ah drought.

Last 5 home games for Chelflee  ;D

0-0 against Everton
4-3 against Bolton...Bolton?  WTF!!
1-0 against Man City...a nex weak defence
2-1 against Wigan
0-0 against Hull...relegation side

And again....daz HOME games eh... "BIG SIDE" ent? ;D

what happen, yuh google button doh pick up champs league or wha?

which part the Liverpool 4-4 play?

I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 04:16:55 PM
I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D

Wha penalties boy outside wid dat eh!!  We will buss deh gullet in de Bridge!!  We eh ha no problems scoring (especially at home) and we know how to frustrate dem.  On top ah dat no Puyol and Marquez dong de middle!!!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D

Wha penalties boy outside wid dat eh!!  We will buss deh gullet in de Bridge!!  We eh ha no problems scoring (especially at home) and we know how to frustrate dem.  On top ah dat no Puyol and Marquez dong de middle!!!

Good luck bro.  Allyuh go need it.  8)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 04:20:43 PM
I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D

Wha penalties boy outside wid dat eh!!  We will buss deh gullet in de Bridge!!  We eh ha no problems scoring (especially at home) and we know how to frustrate dem.  On top ah dat no Puyol and Marquez dong de middle!!!

Good luck bro.  Allyuh go need it.  8)

Ah sure plenty people thought we was gettin we ass buss at Nou Camp too and we woulda need luck.  Jus be ready fuh allyuh crow when Barca get dismantled at the Bridge.  Xavi will eat dat shit he talk bout being the better league too
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 28, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D

Wha penalties boy outside wid dat eh!!  We will buss deh gullet in de Bridge!!  We eh ha no problems scoring (especially at home) and we know how to frustrate dem.  On top ah dat no Puyol and Marquez dong de middle!!!

Good luck bro.  Allyuh go need it.  8)

Ah sure plenty people thought we was gettin we ass buss at Nou Camp too and we woulda need luck.  Jus be ready fuh allyuh crow when Barca get dismantled at the Bridge.  Xavi will eat dat shit he talk bout being the better league too

Hope fuh your sake yuh side make it thru.  Nex ting we have to issue amber alert fuh yuh ass if allyuh lorse... ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 28, 2009, 04:38:29 PM
I was being kind.

You do realize if that score is replicated for the return leg, Chelflee is OUT!

But we all know it won't be.  Chelflee will be playing for penalties from the dressing room.  ;D

Wha penalties boy outside wid dat eh!!  We will buss deh gullet in de Bridge!!  We eh ha no problems scoring (especially at home) and we know how to frustrate dem.  On top ah dat no Puyol and Marquez dong de middle!!!

Good luck bro.  Allyuh go need it.  8)

Ah sure plenty people thought we was gettin we ass buss at Nou Camp too and we woulda need luck.  Jus be ready fuh allyuh crow when Barca get dismantled at the Bridge.  Xavi will eat dat shit he talk bout being the better league too

Hope fuh your sake yuh side make it thru.  Nex ting we have to issue amber alert fuh yuh ass if allyuh lorse... ;D

Nah I doh hide.  If ah use to all now I presumed dead after de nashville masacre :rotfl:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: injunchile on April 28, 2009, 04:48:20 PM
Gus is big coach fellas. Barca met a big side today. Watch Gus tactics at the bridge.
 Drogba and Anelka up front. Chelsea vs Arsenal final
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: SOBRIQUET on April 28, 2009, 05:05:35 PM
Gus is big coach fellas. Barca met a big side today. Watch Gus tactics at the bridge.
 Drogba and Anelka up front. Chelsea vs Arsenal final

 :applause: :applause: :applause: thanks horse.... after men talk assness about the 4 and 5 barca was gonna put on Chelsea at the Camp Nou, they changing they tune now.... now we getting dismantled IN WE CRIB! haha.... pure tata.... No Puyol, No Rafa... Chelsea played their game plan TO PERFECTION.... Guus is a boss when it comes to tactics. He put out a game plan, players followed to the "T" and they got the result they were looking for...

Do these idiots really think that Chelsea will sit back at home and soak up pressure again, with Marquez and Puyol out...?  Plus, as Chelsea put out their 2nd team against Fulham this weekend, Barca will have Real Madrid running at them and their 4 point lead..... Football is a funny sport and anything could happen, but any fool could see that the advantage is with Chelsea for the second leg..... but go ahead and bump gums again nah... throw out all common sense, because HOPE; is all allyuh have now... they played into Chelsea's hands and were duly frustrated.... Barca only knows one way to play...  Chelsea (as we saw today) could play anyway they want to....  now we'll take them to the Bridge, tweek the tactics and slice they throat open....
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 28, 2009, 06:45:26 PM
chelsea men does real skew shit to suit themselves boy......  ???

Chelsea watch Utd and see the way to play barca,  only we created a number of chances in both legs. The drogs chance was a mix up from marquez. What chance allyuh create today?

I dont understand y allyuh feel it necessary that Utd had to go to barca and try to play their style of football, esp  since we not accustomed to playing against that style day in and day out. We adjusted our style to get results. We scored early and then resorted to counter attacking football. If allyuh chelsea men want yuh side to play gungho and get rip up daiz allyuh, doh be talking bout Utd. We know when to play hero and when to play with tactics.


Anyhow, moving on.

1. A chelsea man say that chelsea had the best chance? nah, Bojan chance was the best, drogs chance was good but not best.

2. wouldn't hleb have been offside if Ballack wasn't down injured in the penalty box? diaz the only reason Hleb break through.

3. All the men who spoke about CR disappearing for big games last season, where was messi in the 2nd half today? - Big player does get mark of in big games by a number of big defenders.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 28, 2009, 06:50:44 PM
"Anti football" gets the intended result...good game overall- a nail biter.

I still think Barca will come away from this one on top- will be difficult with a weakened defense, but they have enough fire power to do it.  What people seem to take forgranted is that Barca is a tactically precise team as well...and they can defend....

Chelsea will most likely not park the bus at S.Bridge so the game will be more open and I think Barca will win that battle.  Wasn't expecting a big victory for Barca in this one, but I thought they had enough to sneak one (or maybe two) past...On another day, Eto'o's one on one, Bojan's free header in the six, and Helb's break away would have yielded at least one goal....To their credit, Chelsea stood firm at the back, and in the 1st 45 they could have exploited Barca's only error and....that would have made the game even more interesting. (Drogba could count that as a big miss)...

Chelsea kept numbers around the ball, and Cech made some big saves...that pretty much sums it up...

On to the next round....
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Feliziano on April 28, 2009, 07:50:54 PM
allyuh ent think Liverpool against Barca woulda been a better game eh?  :devil:

this game was too cagey
Chelsea might play for penalties
but then look what happen to them against Liverpool when they decide to sit back 1st half
once Barca score 1st..game over
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 28, 2009, 08:15:05 PM
"Anti football" gets the intended result...good game overall- a nail biter.

I still think Barca will come away from this one on top- will be difficult with a weakened defense, but they have enough fire power to do it.  What people seem to take forgranted is that Barca is a tactically precise team as well...and they can defend....

Chelsea will most likely not park the bus at S.Bridge so the game will be more open and I think Barca will win that battle.  Wasn't expecting a big victory for Barca in this one, but I thought they had enough to sneak one (or maybe two) past...On another day, Eto'o's one on one, Bojan's free header in the six, and Helb's break away would have yielded at least one goal....To their credit, Chelsea stood firm at the back, and in the 1st 45 they could have exploited Barca's only error and....that would have made the game even more interesting. (Drogba could count that as a big miss)...

Chelsea kept numbers around the ball, and Cech made some big saves...that pretty much sums it up...

On to the next round....

Good synopsis. By the reaction of some of the Chelsea fans here you'd think this site had hundreds of Barca fans and everyone thought Chelsea was going to get blown out. I know everyone like to feel like the underdog, but I think I could count the number of Barca fans on this site on two hands. I could also count the number who (seriously) predicted a blowout on one. Barca was the favorite at the start of the day, but in the end you talking La Liga leader and 3rd in the EPL. The difference is minimal. I also think those who haven't watched Barca this season are doing them a disservice when saying they only know one way to play. It can seem that way when they are on top possession-wise, but they are a better away team this year and more solid defensively throughout the team. I am sure they will play very differently away, unless they have to chase the game.

Anyhow..relentless schedule continues...SUPERCLASICO next
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: SOBRIQUET on April 28, 2009, 09:34:25 PM
Chelsea's final hope
 
Chelsea have built a platform to reach Rome  

Guus Hiddink has given Chelsea's mission to erase the memories of last season's Champions League final heartbreak fresh drive and direction - but they fell back on the old reliables of durability and defensive discipline to blunt Barcelona in the Nou Camp.

This was not the place, or indeed the opposition, for the fluid attacking game that dismantled Liverpool at Anfield in the quarter-final first leg or the defensive frailty that saw Chelsea concede four in the return game on home soil.

Hiddink's natural attacking instincts were reined in to deliver a game plan designed to contain Barcelona's glorious approach play and the deadly finishing of Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto'o.

It produced the required result - although a goalless draw is encouraging as opposed to decisive as a platform for when the sides meet again at Stamford Bridge next Wednesday.

Chelsea have proved they can hold Barcelona. Now they must prove they can beat them.


Barcelona enjoyed huge supremacy in territory and possession, but Chelsea's resilience plus outstanding performances from goalkeeper Petr Cech and captain John Terry, in front of England coach Fabio Capello, left an expectant Catalan gallery frustrated at the final whistle.

Terry set the tone for his team-mates, mixing vital interceptions with uncompromising defence to keep Barcelona at arm's length, and when they did pierce Chelsea's rearguard Cech was in no mood to be beaten.

Cech has faced justified criticism recently, especially after performances that combined uncertainty and eccentricity in equal measure against Bolton Wanderers in the Premier League and Liverpool in that wildly fluctuating Champions League clash.

But in Barcelona, some early trouble with crosses aside, this was the imperious shot-stopping Cech of old, providing a formidable barrier on the occasions when the intricate passing of Pep Guardiola's side navigated a route through Chelsea's massed ranks of defensive defiance.

Cech saved well from Henry in the first half, then after the break denied Dani Alves,
Eto'o and crucially Alexander Hleb in injury time. Chelsea were also accompanied by good fortune as well, with substitute Bojan Krkic somehow heading over with the goal at his mercy.

Chelsea's organisation and bravery meant they deserved the draw that has built a foundation for them to advance to a second successive final, and they could even have got an away goal themselves, with Barca keeper Victor Valdes making a superb double save from Didier Drogba in the first half and Michael Ballack heading over later on.

Hiddink is too wise and too experienced to send Chelsea out at the Nou Camp with orders to open up. He knew that would have been an open invitation to players of the calibre of Messi to kill his and Chelsea's Champions League ambitions stone dead.

Instead Chelsea set up for a war of attrition, although they did not help their cause with too many aimless long balls in the first half that only succeeding in presenting possession back to Barcelona.

But with each player following Hiddink's tactical orders to the letter, and with Jose Bosingwa clearly told to get even tighter to Messi as the game progressed, it is slight advantage to Chelsea ahead of the second leg.

Barcelona, however, still pose a massive threat and Chelsea's after-match words outlined the scale of the task awaiting them if they are to meet Manchester United or Arsenal in Rome in the final.

The La Liga leaders are such a potent threat that the odds may well be against Chelsea keeping them out at Stamford Bridge. And Barcelona know just a single goal in the return leg will leave Chelsea facing a massive task, although they face handicaps of their own with influential defender Carles Puyol suspended and Rafael Marquez out after injuring his knee.

Eto'o delivered a timely warning to Chelsea and made a telling point when he said: "They won't be able to play like they did today, just waiting on everything in their own half. Drawing at home is not a bad thing for the team. Playing away in the return leg just means we have to score that away goal that will settle us."

Chelsea's advantage is a slender one, but in Hiddink they have the coach for all occasions, a man with the tactical flexibility to meet the different demands they will face next week.

They will still require all his expertise and their own vast reserves of character to make that last leap to another final and a tilt at redemption following the defeat on penalties against Manchester United in Moscow.


Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on April 28, 2009, 11:44:50 PM
thanks for the reaction Fliho
will do the same tomorrow
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 29, 2009, 05:23:25 AM
Ah was down by the Port yesterday and ah see ah man in the line in full Barca kit i.e. hat, juzzy and a little bag for he football boots....ah had to try hard not to give him some picong.... :devil:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2009, 06:41:01 AM
     I see men on here calling out Messi and comparing his poor game yesterday to cronaldo's many no-shows in big games.  Messi still have quite a few more no-shows to put away before he could catch up to bitchboy, so relax. 
     Chelsea did a superb job on playing defensively yesterday (I guess the so-called boring brand of football that they are so capable of really CAN'T be blamed on Jose 2 coaches later, can it?) and showed no intention on taking any chances against what was CLEARLY a far more technically superior and well balanced team in Barcelona.  If Chelsea had shown this kind of defensive commitment and discipline in three critical games in the EPL they woulda been well ahead in 1st place today.  I think what alot of people don't seem to acknowledge or realize in the Champions' League is that the EPL teams (except arsenal, for the most part) tend to get away with levels, styles and strategies of physicality that they always seem to get away with from the refs and what these continental teams never seem to be able to adapt to, whether it be their temperament or their styles of retaliation.  Chelsea were clearly the more physical of the two teams yet the yellow card count was even.....and it helped them earn that draw.
     Is Hleb a right-footer or a left-footer?  One thing IS obvous to me: he STILL 'fraid to shoot!! Why he didn't put away that ball when he first received it and again when he made a mockery of the fundamentals of shooting is beyond me.  Bojan totally wasted an opportunity when he decided to clear the ball for Chelsea rather than to head it down like he was supposed to......fundamentals again.  Eto'o was guilty of what some men accuse Barca and arsenal of: trying to be too cute/intricate/fancy when in front of goal when he tried to outsmart Petr Cech rather than put the ball away in the far corner like he's paid to do.  Fundamentals yet again.  That miss was even bigger than the other two, IMHO, after he did all that hard work and had the entire Chelsea defense (Cech included) at sprawled at his feet.  Credit to Cech all the same.  Had it not been for him, or had Barca put away any one or two of the glaring chances they had, alot of people would be saying alot of different things today.  Credit, too, to my boys, VV who made an excellent save on one of the only two chances that Chelsea had (he wouldn'ta stood a CHANCE had Ballack's header just had a tad bit more dip in it) and MJO/JOM who played his role very well in defensive midfield even if Chelsea still refuse to show what his offensive talents can yield.
     Is it me, or is Dani Alves, for all his ability, fast becoming (or already has been) one of them Brazilians, along with Jo, who like to make a meal out of every tackle a man ress on him?  Dem is fellas don't need to be giving in to all that shyte with all dey ability (but de nashy lil f***er have one HELLUVA right foot, though!!  ;D)
     How the linesman miss that pull on Henry is beyond me (WTF dem fellas does be lookin' at, N-E WAY?!?!)
Next Wednesday wll be a great game, and, unless Chelsea does more of the same and Barca continue to be wasteful in front of goal, this tie will be easily decided en favour of Barca.......CB's or NO CB's for Barca. 


     Tommy Smyth not only chupid, but he as blind as a newborn.  He watch dat replay 'bout 4 times and couldn't tell is Alex shoulder to Henry jaw that had 'im out cold and not the head-t-head contact!......and couldn't STOP talkin' nonsense throughout the game.
       

                     
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: JDB on April 29, 2009, 07:46:03 AM
Nah Chelsea eh do that bad. United had line/walls, Chelsea had group bid difference.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

What a shyte call on Ballack.

This is why nobody could take you serious when yuh talk about being objective. Last Year (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35403.msg419804#msg419804) you was the chief in condemning United when barcelona had all the ball. Now Chelsea play a game where they actually have fewer chances and commit more fouls than United and it is suddenly a different ball game.




I agree that big teams don't play that way.

However, Chelsea defensive game was in the middle of the field not in the defensive end really. Chelsea happy in letting Barcelona have the ball why did they not make Chelsea pay for that? Chlesea still had the best chance of the game.

You really think Chelsea could not go at Barcelona? Look from the 30 minute in the 1st and the 75" in the 2nd and see the difference and ability in Chelsea being able to take the game to Barcelona.

Barcelona for their ability should have palyed faster, they were to methodical in their build up. Almost everyting they did you could see it coming.

Say what, we will see at Stamford Bridge.

And this is a classic.

Best chance? Yeah right. But even if you going with that delusion, last year United had a penalty, yuh can’t get a better chance than that yet they didn’t get no credit from you.

If Chelsea could go toe to toe with Barcelona, why didn’t they?
Last year yuh was using the fact that three Barca players had Tevez running ina  circle by the corner flag (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35522.msg421410#msg421410) as an example of Barcelona's superior play. Now intricate passing and ball possession is a problem for Barcelona.

Serious question yuh does really believe what yuh does be talking? You really believe that what Chelsea play was in any way better then what United play last year?



Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: doublet750 on April 29, 2009, 10:21:34 AM
It was a plan to prove to Europe that barca can be shut out ....Chelsea have awoken a nerve in barcelona to remind them of what Man United did last year (maybe not in teh same style) but they shut them out at home and will look to DO THE SAME AT HOME WITH A CONSIDERED ATTACKING APPROACH...people dont be fooled CHELSEA WILL DEFEND AT HOME AND LOOK TO ATTACK ON THE BREAK WISELY...its not about "THE BEAUTIFUL GAME ...its about RESULTS and thats what GUUS is going for"-u heard it hear first

some key things to note
Barca-lost Marquez and Puyol...

Chelsea-Have Ashley Cole and Bosingwa back so now both wings will have something to offer on teh attack...barcelona will have to be weary of the threat of having these two Wingbacks go forward and look for teh Chelsea team to be strong at home AND VALDES WILL SHOW HIS WEAKNESS without the barca crowd (He has conceded in the last two CL legs away from home)

Chelsea team will look something like this (no surprises)

                      CECH
Bosingwa Terry Alex/Carvalho  Cole
            Ballack  Mikel   Lamps
Kalou                                   Flo
                 Drogba

Subs
ANelka-on in teh second half n will b as instrumental as he was against pool
Essien-on in tthe second half also to help plug the holes n stifle the attack

notice how i have the team so bunged together its cuz they will play to stifle the through balls as thy did at camp nou but the wingers will pose a threat to a barca defence tht MAY have a MARTIN CACERES ...a young defender who is a future star but for now still flawed..drogba will absue him

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 29, 2009, 10:21:41 AM
what's next Pep? .... "playing in our away colours make us uncomfortable" ??
He lucky they didn't get 3 yellows because Dani Alves was acting like if somebody put cow itch in he jockstrap

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29042009/3/barcelona-slam-chelsea-tactics-draw.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29042009/3/barcelona-slam-chelsea-tactics-draw.html)

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Barcelona slam Chelsea tactics after draw
Wed 29 Apr, 02:44 PM

BARCELONA (AFP) - Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola reacted angrily at what he saw as the referee's leniency towards English side Chelsea's physical approach in their 0-0 Champions League semi-final first leg match.

Chelsea went away with mission accomplished after they stood firm against a barrage from Barcelona at the Camp Nou and become the first side this season in the competition to stop Barca from scoring at home.

As expected Barca took the game to Chelsea and enjoyed the vast majority of the possession but they were unable to find a way through to goal for the first time at home this season in the competition.

Petr Cech made a couple of important blocks from Samuel Eto'o and substitute Alexandr Hleb but too often they were restricted to strikes from distance.

"It is difficult to play against a team which doesn't want to play football," stormed 37-year-old Guardiola, who has worked wonders with the side since replacing the sacked Frank Rijkaard for this season.

"It was a game in which Chelsea had five defenders and the ball was always Cech to (Didier) Drogba and then backwards and forwards again.

"The result was fair, though, because neither side scored but there is something wrong when we ended up with the same number of yellow cards as they did and yet they committed 20 fouls compared to seven," added the former Barcelona and Spain playmaker.

Guardiola, who cleared out stars such as Deco and Ronaldinho last summer, believed that German star Michael Ballack was fortunate to have remained on the pitch.

"Chelsea played very physically and I thought it was scandalous that (Michael) Ballack did not receive a second yellow card for a foul on (Andres) Iniesta on the edge of the area," said Guardiola.

"That is something you would expect in any normal game during the season and it is these small details which did not go our way which will end up deciding the tie.

"Referees need to take an overall look at games and if that had happened then he would have seen that we were not the team which was fouling and we were looking to play football.

"Anyone looking at the match will know there was only one team looking to attack, we were always looking for a goal but Chelsea are a good side who have been together for a long time and won trophies.

"We now have to go to Stamford Bridge, play the football we always play and try and win."

The Barca players were similarly forthright with Xavi Hernandez complaining: "so that is what the English call fair play," while Toure Yaya also hit out at Chelsea's tackling.

"It was a difficult game and some of their tackles were outrageous while we would just touch a player and there would be a free-kick or a booking. We now have to go there (Stamford Bridge) and get a win, the tie is still not decided," said Toure, who was one of those booked.

Barca were also dealt a blow with the news that centre-half Rafa Marquez is set to miss the rest of the season after picking up what appears to be a serious knee injury. His replacement Carles Puyol will also be absent from the return leg through suspension after accumulating his third yellow card.

Eto'o, who it has been denied is subject to a 40million pound bid from Manchester City, said that there was hope for Barcelona as playing at home Chelsea will now have to come out and attack.

"We had all the chances," said the Cameroon marksman.

"I would imagine they won't be able to play in the second leg like they did tonight by sitting back in their half.

"We will see how they are going to approach it. We will try and score the goal that we need to get us to the final."

Chelsea coach Guus Hiddink, though, praised the character of his players for the way they stood firm and prevented Barca's star-studded forward line from scoring.

"This was a good result but the tie is not decided yet and we have another very hard game ahead of us. It was not an easy match to play and we will have to improve in some areas for the next game but overall I am happy as we defended very well," said Hiddink, who won the what was then the European Cup as coach of PSV Eindhoven in 1988.

"Barca keep the ball very well and so it meant we had to defend a lot but we defended very well and I have to praise (John) Terry for his courage. They put us under a lot of pressure but we never yielded and we managed to neutralise the threat from (Lionel) Messi."

Chelsea skipper Terry conceded that Barcelona had had the majority of the chances but was delighted to have come away with the draw.

"We stayed very tight at the back," said Terry, whose missed penalty in last year's final handed victory to Manchester United.

"It was a fantastic performance and to not concede a goal is delightful. Hopefully going back to the Bridge we can use that to our advantage."
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 10:55:35 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 11:06:27 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 29, 2009, 11:10:09 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Exforkinzactly!

BITCH football by wannabe "big side" Chelflee.  No if's, and's or but's about it. 
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Bakes on April 29, 2009, 11:31:57 AM
Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Fella and you have the nerve to accuse me of being biased? lol
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2009, 11:37:56 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

 


 WHERE WAS ALL THIS OUTCRY WHEN MANU DID THE EXACT SAME THING AGAINST AN EVEN LESSER BARCA SIDE LAST YEAR FROM AN EVEN BETTER POSITION THAN CHELSEA IS IN THIS YEAR?

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Brought the game into disrepute?

If you disagree with what I said, then go ahead and tell me why, but don't put words in my mouth then play like you askin' me some irrelevant question that I should answer.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 29, 2009, 11:54:14 AM
90 minutes still to play. too much is being made of the tactics used in the first 90 minutes. regardless of how everyone feels about the different styles of play..i believe that each team is a very pragmatic, proessional outfit and neither is out to entertain for entertainment's sake. Barca's more attractive style is what they consider the best way to win - the end goal. if they didn't think so, they would not play that way. The aesthetics of their game is a nice by-product of a philosophy that is still intended to win trophies first and foremost. Chelsea did what they had to do over 90 minutes.

Let's wait and see how the 2nd 90 minutes goes. Only after that will you get the full picture of what each team is capable of. Then the praise and criticism can begin. real judgement passing and we are still to see what Barca does away from home and what Chelsea does at home...

Anyway..I trying to study de Superclasico and I still drawn to this thread. Presha!

Go BARCA!
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 29, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Kicker, I don't think the performancec comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority when Barca was/ is being crowned as the best team on the planet. Chelsea was the underdog yesterday, and regardless of whom Barca played in the semis - they would have been favoured to win. No-one believed Chelsea could get a result at Camp Nou EXCEPT for Chelsea fans, and they were written off as inferior before the game. It's a good thing the game was played, because now the questions are being asked whether the Barca team is well-tempered, disciplined or athletically superior to outwit Chelsea.

Yesterday's showcase was epitomized from the outset by expectations but Chelsea went in with a game plan, and they executed. Barca went in with a game plan and could not execute.

I also get what you're saying about winning is everything versus joga bonito .... but it is the results that matter, not necessarily how you come to those results that will measure the accomplishments of the team. Take for example, the Arsenal team that we will see today. They currently play the most aesthetically pleasing brand of football in the EPL, but what recent silverware do they have to show for that?

Much has also been made about the Chelsea payroll as though Chelsea is the only side with a multi-million dollar payroll that has approached Barca with a defensive mindset. Well the payroll was well worth it, because regardless of their formation or tactics, the millionaires earned their salaries and a bonus last evening because they followed instructions and stuck to what they were told to do. They sat back and let Barca overpass, while they surged forward on the counter-attack.

Chelsea will undoubtedly be more attacking at Stamford Bridge, and if Chelsea scores first, expect the superior talent at Barca to panic, quake and complain alot more - because they ran into a impermeable wall in Camp Nou, and they know it will be replicated 10-fold at The Bridge if Chelsea are one up.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 12:00:36 PM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Brought the game into disrepute?

If you disagree with what I said, then go ahead and tell me why, but don't put words in my mouth then play like you askin' me some irrelevant question that I should answer.

How the question irrelevant? Just say you don't want to answer. YOu make some general comments and I just ask you for something more specific as to why you (the purist) felt that the tactic Chelsea employed was "cheating" or inferior.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 12:02:36 PM

WHERE WAS ALL THIS OUTCRY WHEN MANU DID THE EXACT SAME THING AGAINST AN EVEN LESSER BARCA SIDE LAST YEAR FROM AN EVEN BETTER POSITION THAN CHELSEA IS IN THIS YEAR?



Firstly I dunno what outcry you're talking about- just an observation...no need to be so dramatic (yes and that means also unlocking yuh caps key  :D).

Secondly I actually didn't watch the 1st leg of the Man U - Barca semi last year...the score got leaked to me before I could watch so I didn't bother....The return leg that I watched wasn't really comparable to last nights game in my opinion- Man U was on the back foot alot because they scored early, and were naturally pressed for long periods of the game (that's typical)...but it didn't look like a game where they intended to park the bus and frustrate from the opening minute.

Thirdly I'm not sure if it matters that Man U employed a similar approach.  It doesn't change a thing, nor my opinion.  I used Chelsea as the example naturally because it's the most recent case.  A wounded, undermanned and in turmoil Real Madrid went to the Camp Nou earlier this season and had to absorb tons of pressure too...it was clear that they employed a reasonably conservative strategy- they lost and it was unanimous that they were clearly outclassed (even their ex-coach admitted it before the game) so in the end the point was moot...In Chelsea's case I think it was a bit different.  Unless they were genuinely outclassed (which I don't agree with, and I'm sure every Chelsea fan on here would deny) I would have liked to see them open up a bit more- I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2009, 12:16:14 PM
90 minutes still to play. too much is being made of the tactics used in the first 90 minutes. regardless of how everyone feels about the different styles of play..i believe that each team is a very pragmatic, proessional outfit and neither is out to entertain for entertainment's sake. Barca's more attractive style is what they consider the best way to win - the end goal. if they didn't think so, they would not play that way. The aesthetics of their game is a nice by-product of a philosophy that is still intended to win trophies first and foremost. Chelsea did what they had to do over 90 minutes.

Let's wait and see how the 2nd 90 minutes goes. Only after that will you get the full picture of what each team is capable of. Then the praise and criticism can begin. real judgement passing and we are still to see what Barca does away from home and what Chelsea does at home...

Anyway..I trying to study de Superclasico and I still drawn to this thread. Presha!

Go BARCA!

            The superclasico just might have more of an effect on Barca's CL aspirations than on the Liga title.  The timing couldn't have been worse as far as pressure for Barca is concerned. 




WHERE WAS ALL THIS OUTCRY WHEN MANU DID THE EXACT SAME THING AGAINST AN EVEN LESSER BARCA SIDE LAST YEAR FROM AN EVEN BETTER POSITION THAN CHELSEA IS IN THIS YEAR?



Firstly I dunno what outcry you're talking about- just an observation...no need to be so dramatic (yes and that means also unlocking yuh caps key  :D).

Secondly I actually didn't watch the 1st leg of the Man U - Barca semi last year...the score got leaked to me before I could watch so I didn't bother....The return leg that I watched wasn't really comparable to last nights game in my opinion- Man U was on the back foot alot because they scored early, and were naturally pressed for long periods of the game (that's typical)...but it didn't look like a game where they intended to park the bus and frustrate from the opening minute.

Thirdly I'm not sure if it matters that Man U employed a similar approach.  It doesn't change a thing, nor my opinion.  I used Chelsea as the example naturally because it's the most recent case.  A wounded, undermanned and in turmoil Real Madrid went to the Camp Nou earlier this season and had to absorb tons of pressure too...it was clear that they employed a reasonably conservative strategy- they lost and it was unanimous that they were clearly outclassed (even their ex-coach admitted it before the game) so in the end the point was moot...In Chelsea's case I think it was a bit different.  Unless they were genuinely outclassed (which I don't agree with, and I'm sure every Chelsea fan on here would deny) I would have liked to see them open up a bit more- I don't see what all the fuss is about.


   Well it was the game that you missed where manu had "parked the bus" when Barca weren't at full strength and they (manu) didn't look any different from how Chelsea looked last night.  I, too, would have preferred to see Chelsea play a more open, free-flowing game (especially since I don't care either way.....well, I DO care who wins this one....) but I just think that any team that decidedly sits back and absorbs pressure and hope for a counter-attack is basically admitting inferiority.   

.....as far as the caps is concerned, ah was too lazy to go back and change de whole ting so ah jes change the first letters from lower case, if yuh ketch meh drift.  ;) 
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 29, 2009, 12:20:34 PM
Kicker, I don't think the performancec comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority when Barca was/ is being crowned as the best team on the planet.


Barca has won nothing yet. They're gaining plaudits for their style of play, not actual superiority. That comes from results at the tail end of the season.


Chelsea was the underdog yesterday, and regardless of whom Barca played in the semis - they would have been favoured to win. No-one believed Chelsea could get a result at Camp Nou EXCEPT for Chelsea fans, and they were written off as inferior before the game.

Except for the part about Barca being favorites..that's a huge exaggeration. But that's normal for the underdog. It amkes a positive result even sweeter.

It's a good thing the game was played, because now the questions are being asked whether the Barca team is well-tempered, disciplined or athletically superior to outwit Chelsea.

Yesterday's showcase was epitomized from the outset by expectations but Chelsea went in with a game plan, and they executed. Barca went in with a game plan and could not execute.

I think for some people, the question is...why that plan? for others, the result speaks for itself

I also get what you're saying about winning is everything versus joga bonito .... but it is the results that matter, not necessarily how you come to those results that will measure the accomplishments of the team.

I think that's exactly what kicker was saying in the beginning. And exactly why it's ridiculous to use the hype of Barca being 'the best team in the world' as a reason for Chelsea being such rank outsiders. barca isn't even certaint to win la Liga

Take for example, the Arsenal team that we will see today. They currently play the most aesthetically pleasing brand of football in the EPL, but what recent silverware do they have to show for that?

Much has also been made about the Chelsea payroll as though Chelsea is the only side with a multi-million dollar payroll that has approached Barca with a defensive mindset. Well the payroll was well worth it, because regardless of their formation or tactics, the millionaires earned their salaries and a bonus last evening because they followed instructions and stuck to what they were told to do. They sat back and let Barca overpass, while they surged forward on the counter-attack.

Chelsea will undoubtedly be more attacking at Stamford Bridge, and if Chelsea scores first, expect the superior talent at Barca to panic, quake and complain alot more - because they ran into a impermeable wall in Camp Nou, and they know it will be replicated 10-fold at The Bridge if Chelsea are one up.

looking forward to the 2nd leg
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 12:23:02 PM
Nah Chelsea eh do that bad. United had line/walls, Chelsea had group bid difference.

You serious....they playing a nice game. Everyone saying defensive, but it's not parking the bus. They giving the ball back to Barca and alet them play. Chelsea is picking their time in going forward.

What a shyte call on Ballack.

This is why nobody could take you serious when yuh talk about being objective. Last Year (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35403.msg419804#msg419804) you was the chief in condemning United when barcelona had all the ball. Now Chelsea play a game where they actually have fewer chances and commit more fouls than United and it is suddenly a different ball game.




I agree that big teams don't play that way.

However, Chelsea defensive game was in the middle of the field not in the defensive end really. Chelsea happy in letting Barcelona have the ball why did they not make Chelsea pay for that? Chlesea still had the best chance of the game.

You really think Chelsea could not go at Barcelona? Look from the 30 minute in the 1st and the 75" in the 2nd and see the difference and ability in Chelsea being able to take the game to Barcelona.

Barcelona for their ability should have palyed faster, they were to methodical in their build up. Almost everyting they did you could see it coming.

Say what, we will see at Stamford Bridge.

And this is a classic.

Best chance? Yeah right. But even if you going with that delusion, last year United had a penalty, yuh can’t get a better chance than that yet they didn’t get no credit from you.

If Chelsea could go toe to toe with Barcelona, why didn’t they?
Last year yuh was using the fact that three Barca players had Tevez running ina  circle by the corner flag (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=35522.msg421410#msg421410) as an example of Barcelona's superior play. Now intricate passing and ball possession is a problem for Barcelona.

Serious question yuh does really believe what yuh does be talking? You really believe that what Chelsea play was in any way better then what United play last year?





Look how simple you are in your understanding of tactics. If you or anyone could watch what Chelsea do and directly compare it to Man UNited, have to be basic in football. Why no one coming down on big Barcelona in not knowing how to adapt to different teams. So every team have to play a certaing way for Barcelona to show what they have? Come on grow up.

I will educate you here a little.

Man United had 2 major lines of confrontation with no outlet vs Barcelona a year ago. They were on the back foot and absorbing pressure.

Chelsea on the other hand had one major line of confrontation that being the back 4. The midfield was used to stifle play down the middle, not be reactive and absorb pressure. Chelsea midfield was pro active in forcing Barcelona wide to what supposed to be their strong points. However, Barcelona could not use the flanks effectively for a number of reason. Messi and Henry start points were to deep, the full back got good cover from the center backs thus minimizing the space behind the fullback, crossing the ball would have been to Chelsea adavntage and Chelsea mids and defenders kept runner from making proper runs into the box.

Now again Man United upon winning the ball had little or no options a year ago. Chelsea had various outlets on winning the ball. The  thing that confusing you all into thinking that it was all defensive was that they really had no reason to use the outlets much. Drogba remained high and mobile keeping the Barcelona defense in place, and have them unsure about joining the attack. This also created less option for Barcelopna in the middle of the field as their support fron the back was limited. Malouda and Essien was also outlets on the side, therefore Barcelona had to be very careful about how they push on.

Chelsea deployment on the field was in such a manner that if needed they could have stepped up their game and press Barcelona back (like if they went down a goal, which never happened). The last 15 minutes in each half showed how easily Chelsea could have gotten forward. They (Chelsea) was just happy to let Barcelona have the ball, but won the ball in specific positions and turn them back. This is not the same as man UNited defending deep inside their half with no distinct option to go forward whenever they wanted.

So Mr.  JDB no one have to take me serious on this board cause as soon as the thread get to indepth tactics analysis men does start cussing, calling people names or just abandon the thread. You all making all these general tactical observation but not looking at the game within the game. The little nuances, the tweaks that seperate a set of tactics from another.

What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Brought the game into disrepute?

If you disagree with what I said, then go ahead and tell me why, but don't put words in my mouth then play like you askin' me some irrelevant question that I should answer.

How the question irrelevant? Just say you don't want to answer. YOu make some general comments and I just ask you for something more specific as to why you (the purist) felt that the tactic Chelsea employed was "cheating" or inferior.


There you go again putting words in my mouth.  First yuh come with disrepute...lol...Now cheating and now inferior tactics.  I never said they employed inferior tactics..nor said anything about cheating.  I said that such tactics in my opinion take away from the "pureness" of the game (in a manner of speaking of course)- and such a performance comes off like meaning in my opinion it appears to be an admission of inferiority (I know they're not admitting such- I even started by saying that I understand the rationale behind the tactical approach- which it clearly was)..I'm saying on it's face, it comes off that way.  

I'm not sure what really needs explaining there...or why I need to review the specifics of the game to try and prove anything- If you saw the game you'd know exactly what I'm talking about even if you don't agree....and quite frankly I don't really care that much.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 12:25:14 PM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Brought the game into disrepute?

If you disagree with what I said, then go ahead and tell me why, but don't put words in my mouth then play like you askin' me some irrelevant question that I should answer.

How the question irrelevant? Just say you don't want to answer. YOu make some general comments and I just ask you for something more specific as to why you (the purist) felt that the tactic Chelsea employed was "cheating" or inferior.


There you go again putting words in my mouth.  First yuh come with disrepute...lol...Now cheating and now inferior tactics.  I never said they employed inferior tactics..nor said anything about cheating.  I said that such tactics in my opinion take away from the "pureness" of the game (in a manner of speaking of course)- and such a performance comes off like meaning in my opinion it appears to be an admission of inferiority (I know they're not admitting such- I even started by saying that I understand the rationale behind the tactical approach- which it clearly was)..I'm saying on it's face, it comes off that way.  

I'm not sure what really needs explaining there...or why I need to review the specifics of the game to try and prove anything- If you saw the game you'd know exactly what I'm talking about even if you don't agree....and quite frankly I don't really care that much.

Okay, okay....I putting words in yuh mouth.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2009, 12:26:33 PM
Kind of agree with Pep.

I understand the school of thought that football is all about winning, and you therefore need to employ all your resources in a manner that gives you the best shot at winning- and hence the tactical aspect of the game gains alot of importance as seen yesterday...

But I'm more from the purist school and Chelsea's approach to the game took away from the pureness of it, and I think it's kinda lame- I understand if you're Nobody F.C. with a bunch of unskilled players who lack quality, and the only way you could imagine to grind out a result is to park the bus, and hope for rare openings & mistakes...but when you're a so-called big side like Chelsea with a multi-million dollar roster of skilled professional football stars boasting to be a top 4 team in what is supposed to be the dominant league in Europe, a performance like that comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority.

Chelsea might go on to win the 2 legged tie, but unless they play Barca off the park in the next leg, if they do get the favorable result at the bridge, I'd be hard pressed to contend that the better team won.

Specifically, tell me how Chelsea played that brought the game into disrepute?

Brought the game into disrepute?

If you disagree with what I said, then go ahead and tell me why, but don't put words in my mouth then play like you askin' me some irrelevant question that I should answer.

How the question irrelevant? Just say you don't want to answer. YOu make some general comments and I just ask you for something more specific as to why you (the purist) felt that the tactic Chelsea employed was "cheating" or inferior.


There you go again putting words in my mouth.  First yuh come with disrepute...lol...Now cheating and now inferior tactics.  I never said they employed inferior tactics..nor said anything about cheating.  I said that such tactics in my opinion take away from the "pureness" of the game (in a manner of speaking of course)- and such a performance comes off like meaning in my opinion it appears to be an admission of inferiority (I know they're not admitting such- I even started by saying that I understand the rationale behind the tactical approach- which it clearly was)..I'm saying on it's face, it comes off that way.  

I'm not sure what really needs explaining there...or why I need to review the specifics of the game to try and prove anything- If you saw the game you'd know exactly what I'm talking about even if you don't agree....and quite frankly I don't really care that much.

   I really don't think it only "comes off" as an admission of inferiority, Boss.  It is one.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 12:27:09 PM
.....as far as the caps is concerned, ah was too lazy to go back and change de whole ting so ah jes change the first letters from lower case, if yuh ketch meh drift.  ;) 

lol  ;D no scene... :beermug:
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: FF on April 29, 2009, 12:37:39 PM
Kicker stop bleddy taking Barca side in anything or bigging dem up in any kinda roundabout way for meh please...  >:(

Classico dis weekend.... so dey is ultimate sh!t for de time being!1

Level toots.... Crapalona...


we could come back to who playing nice football and which league is de best etc next week tuesday

please and thanks.... before ah burst ah damn blood vessel



... bout you kinda agree with pep... gimme ah damn chance
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mackie on April 29, 2009, 12:42:04 PM
Now I eh no Chelsea fan (MAN U !!) but i really dont understand some of these comments . There are different styles of football and its not news that Barca and Arsenal play the most aesthetically pleasing brand. But once you support a team , you support the team no matter if their brand is great on the day or not. Look at us Trinis. When we played Sweden , did we turn off the tv in disgust when we basically camped in our half for the whole game? No , we cheered every tackle , every off the line clearance , every save. My point is fans will watch their team whether the brand is the best to watch on that day or not. I am sure that this extends to fans who are watching a team that isnt "their " team .. Everybody loves an underdog. And on the day Chelsea were the underdog , based mostly on the fact that they were playing away from home.
Also, what makes a brand better? Because it is pretty ? If something is pretty but ineffective does that not make it inferior in some aspects?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 29, 2009, 12:47:12 PM
Now I eh no Chelsea fan (MAN U !!) but i really dont understand some of these comments . There are different styles of football and its not news that Barca and Arsenal play the most aesthetically pleasing brand. But once you support a team , you support the team no matter if their brand is great on the day or not. Look at us Trinis. When we played Sweden , did we turn off the tv in disgust when we basically camped in our half for the whole game? No , we cheered every tackle , every off the line clearance , every save. My point is fans will watch their team whether the brand is the best to watch on that day or not. I am sure that this extends to fans who are watching a team that isnt "their " team .. Everybody loves an underdog. And on the day Chelsea were the underdog , based mostly on the fact that they were playing away from home.
Also, what makes a brand better? Because it is pretty ? If something is pretty but ineffective does that not make it inferior in some aspects?

       Chelsea being one of the big teams in the EPL should not resort to that type of strategy (and I is a Chelsea man, eh!)  T&T against sweden......we are the smallest nation to ever play in a World Cup.  We did what would have been prudent of us and STILL got an even better result than expected. Our tactics were justified, Chelsea's weren't.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 12:49:28 PM

Kicker, I don't think the performancec comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority when Barca was/ is being crowned as the best team on the planet. Chelsea was the underdog yesterday, and regardless of whom Barca played in the semis - they would have been favoured to win. No-one believed Chelsea could get a result at Camp Nou EXCEPT for Chelsea fans, and they were written off as inferior before the game. It's a good thing the game was played, because now the questions are being asked whether the Barca team is well-tempered, disciplined or athletically superior to outwit Chelsea.

Yesterday's showcase was epitomized from the outset by expectations but Chelsea went in with a game plan, and they executed. Barca went in with a game plan and could not execute.

I also get what you're saying about winning is everything versus joga bonito .... but it is the results that matter, not necessarily how you come to those results that will measure the accomplishments of the team. Take for example, the Arsenal team that we will see today. They currently play the most aesthetically pleasing brand of football in the EPL, but what recent silverware do they have to show for that?

Much has also been made about the Chelsea payroll as though Chelsea is the only side with a multi-million dollar payroll that has approached Barca with a defensive mindset. Well the payroll was well worth it, because regardless of their formation or tactics, the millionaires earned their salaries and a bonus last evening because they followed instructions and stuck to what they were told to do. They sat back and let Barca overpass, while they surged forward on the counter-attack.

Chelsea will undoubtedly be more attacking at Stamford Bridge, and if Chelsea scores first, expect the superior talent at Barca to panic, quake and complain alot more - because they ran into a impermeable wall in Camp Nou, and they know it will be replicated 10-fold at The Bridge if Chelsea are one up.

I hear you... yuh hadda understand, I'm a neutral unlike you so I'm not as married to Chelsea's tactical mastermind as you are...and yuh not telling me anything I don't already know....I just woulda liked to see a more end to end battle ...or an attempt at such- doh get me wrong I thoroughly enjoyed the game because I love football, and I like the tension of a nailbiter even if it ends goalless...

If it were my squad playing like Chelsea did in that game, I'd outwardly stand by them (though deep inside I'd have preferred if they could go toe to toe with Barca in a more open affair, but I probably wouldn't admit it due to pride  ;D )...so iz no scene.  End of day like you say the intended result was achieved...and Champions league football (except for the final) in a way is not "pure" (in quotes of course) football- it's 180 (or 210 minutes) played in two different settings where you have to balance out certain factors in a marathon as opposed to just going for broke in the 90 min sprint so naturally tactics will play a bigger role depending on the matchups...and I'm pretty sure that Chelsea will play a more open game in the return leg..... so it is what it is.

I'm not sure why people are getting so defensive and worked up over this one...it's just observations and opinions- still plenty of the game to play.  
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: kicker on April 29, 2009, 12:50:14 PM
Kicker stop bleddy taking Barca side in anything or bigging dem up in any kinda roundabout way for meh please...  >:(

Classico dis weekend.... so dey is ultimate sh!t for de time being!1

Level toots.... Crapalona...


we could come back to who playing nice football and which league is de best etc next week tuesday

please and thanks.... before ah burst ah damn blood vessel



... bout you kinda agree with pep... gimme ah damn chance

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

doh kill meh
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 29, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
       Chelsea being one of the big teams in the EPL should not resort to that type of strategy (and I is a Chelsea man, eh!)  T&T against sweden......we are the smallest nation to ever play in a World Cup.  We did what would have been prudent of us and STILL got an even better result than expected. Our tactics were justified, Chelsea's weren't.

well as a Chelsea man, I have to digress ... the end result justify the means.
Chelsea got a favourable result, and now it's Chelsea's tie to lose at home.

If before the game you had told Chelsea they could come away with a 0-0 tie they wouldve taken the result and fled.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 29, 2009, 12:54:08 PM

Kicker, I don't think the performancec comes off as an uncharacteristic admission of inferiority when Barca was/ is being crowned as the best team on the planet. Chelsea was the underdog yesterday, and regardless of whom Barca played in the semis - they would have been favoured to win. No-one believed Chelsea could get a result at Camp Nou EXCEPT for Chelsea fans, and they were written off as inferior before the game. It's a good thing the game was played, because now the questions are being asked whether the Barca team is well-tempered, disciplined or athletically superior to outwit Chelsea.

Yesterday's showcase was epitomized from the outset by expectations but Chelsea went in with a game plan, and they executed. Barca went in with a game plan and could not execute.

I also get what you're saying about winning is everything versus joga bonito .... but it is the results that matter, not necessarily how you come to those results that will measure the accomplishments of the team. Take for example, the Arsenal team that we will see today. They currently play the most aesthetically pleasing brand of football in the EPL, but what recent silverware do they have to show for that?

Much has also been made about the Chelsea payroll as though Chelsea is the only side with a multi-million dollar payroll that has approached Barca with a defensive mindset. Well the payroll was well worth it, because regardless of their formation or tactics, the millionaires earned their salaries and a bonus last evening because they followed instructions and stuck to what they were told to do. They sat back and let Barca overpass, while they surged forward on the counter-attack.

Chelsea will undoubtedly be more attacking at Stamford Bridge, and if Chelsea scores first, expect the superior talent at Barca to panic, quake and complain alot more - because they ran into a impermeable wall in Camp Nou, and they know it will be replicated 10-fold at The Bridge if Chelsea are one up.

I hear you... yuh hadda understand, I'm a neutral unlike you so I'm not as married to Chelsea's tactical mastermind as you are...and yuh not telling me anything I don't already know....I just woulda liked to see a more end to end battle ...or an attempt at such- doh get me wrong I thoroughly enjoyed the game because I love football, and I like the tension of a nailbiter even if it ends goalless...

If it were my squad playing like Chelsea did in that game, I'd outwardly stand by them (though deep inside I'd have preferred if they could go toe to toe with Barca in a more open affair, but I probably wouldn't admit it due to pride  ;D )...so iz no scene.  End of day like you say the intended result was achieved...and Champions league football (except for the final) in a way is not "pure" (in quotes of course) football- it's 180 (or 210 minutes) played in two different settings where you have to balance out certain factors in a marathon as opposed to just going for broke in the 90 min sprint so naturally tactics will play a bigger role depending on the matchups...and I'm pretty sure that Chelsea will play a more open game in the return leg..... so it is what it is.

I'm not sure why people are getting so defensive and worked up over this one...it's just observations and opinions- still plenty of the game to play.  

true!!! ... I see a pardner comment earlier that men call the game boring, but they sit down and watch the whole game and talking about it for the last umpteen pages.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Mackie on April 29, 2009, 01:38:47 PM
Now I eh no Chelsea fan (MAN U !!) but i really dont understand some of these comments . There are different styles of football and its not news that Barca and Arsenal play the most aesthetically pleasing brand. But once you support a team , you support the team no matter if their brand is great on the day or not. Look at us Trinis. When we played Sweden , did we turn off the tv in disgust when we basically camped in our half for the whole game? No , we cheered every tackle , every off the line clearance , every save. My point is fans will watch their team whether the brand is the best to watch on that day or not. I am sure that this extends to fans who are watching a team that isnt "their " team .. Everybody loves an underdog. And on the day Chelsea were the underdog , based mostly on the fact that they were playing away from home.
Also, what makes a brand better? Because it is pretty ? If something is pretty but ineffective does that not make it inferior in some aspects?

       Chelsea being one of the big teams in the EPL should not resort to that type of strategy (and I is a Chelsea man, eh!)  T&T against sweden......we are the smallest nation to ever play in a World Cup.  We did what would have been prudent of us and STILL got an even better result than expected. Our tactics were justified, Chelsea's weren't.

Aye chow my point is that the game doh have to be top drawer in terms of skills to be exciting and command an audience!
Also if Barca had score two goals at home , you think they would have come out attacking at Stamford Bridge? Its a home and away tie and teams do what they have to do to get the result. No point in being gung ho at 0-0 away from home. It snot about playing inferior football , its just wisdom . Barca as I indicated would have done the same.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dinho on April 29, 2009, 02:20:44 PM
with regards to the men who take umbrage with my assertion that Barcelona is the best team in football right now..

can you only make this judgement based on titles? is it impossible for you to grade the best team on the planet at any given point before the season is over?

Personally, I watch enough serie A, EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga ball for the season to be able to make that straightforward conclusion. I doh need to wait to see who win a Champions League to then come and say well that side is the best. This is a cup competition in which the best team doesn't necessarily win.. too many variables...

No team in the world right now is playing on Barcelona's level and I say that without reservation.. Offensively, I haven't seen anything like it in a long time.. Defensively they are imperious and the entire team presses at a high intensity, which is why they win the ball back so quickly..

Seriously fellahs.. I done realize what underlying all this... ignorance!!

men who cant acknowledge this Barca side is men who does watch predominantly EPL ball.

Probably the same men who could rate Van Der Sar and Reina as the best goalkeepers in the world and forget to mention ah Julio Cruz.. Or the men who was seriously rating Berbatov at the same level or better than Ibrahimovic... Or men who unable to appreciate just how good Andres Iniesta is this year.

I even see a man go as far as to say "Barcelona could only beat shitty La Liga teams", when the quality is woefully lacking outside the EPL top 4. Allyuh feel Aston Villa and Everton could run with Sevilla/Atletico Madrid?? Thats not even mentioning the glut of very poor teams in the lower half of the league, namely West Brom, Hull, Stoke, Sunderland, Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan who play only something resembling football.

anyhow... ah done rant...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 29, 2009, 02:25:55 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 02:30:21 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.

Did they not have their best players on the field? Who else they have on the bench to come and get something done, Bojan came on with time. Who Gudjonson?

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 29, 2009, 02:36:28 PM
with regards to the men who take umbrage with my assertion that Barcelona is the best team in football right now..

can you only make this judgement based on titles? is it impossible for you to grade the best team on the planet at any given point before the season is over?

Personally, I watch enough serie A, EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga ball for the season to be able to make that straightforward conclusion. I doh need to wait to see who win a Champions League to then come and say well that side is the best. This is a cup competition in which the best team doesn't necessarily win.. too many variables...

No team in the world right now is playing on Barcelona's level and I say that without reservation.. Offensively, I haven't seen anything like it in a long time.. Defensively they are imperious and the entire team presses at a high intensity, which is why they win the ball back so quickly..

Seriously fellahs.. I done realize what underlying all this... ignorance!!

men who cant acknowledge this Barca side is men who does watch predominantly EPL ball.

Probably the same men who could rate Van Der Sar and Reina as the best goalkeepers in the world and forget to mention ah Julio Cruz.. Or the men who was seriously rating Berbatov at the same level or better than Ibrahimovic... Or men who unable to appreciate just how good Andres Iniesta is this year.

I even see a man go as far as to say "Barcelona could only beat shitty La Liga teams", when the quality is woefully lacking outside the EPL top 4. Allyuh feel Aston Villa and Everton could run with Sevilla/Atletico Madrid?? Thats not even mentioning the glut of very poor teams in the lower half of the league, namely West Brom, Hull, Stoke, Sunderland, Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan who play only something resembling football.

anyhow... ah done rant...

Well I am a little different. I love Barca, and think they are playing the 'best' ball on the planet when they on their game. But I've seen them look poor a couple of times as well. I also know that no matter how well they play, some teams just match up well against them. For 2009, Atletico Madrid couldn't buy a win, home or away, but when the league leaders came to town, best believe they felt they were going to get their first win of the new year. And they did. Atletico's forwards have matched up well against Barca's defense in recent years, so much so that even though they not in the same class in league standing or European play, Atletico almost certain of a 3 points against Barca in the last 5 or so years. So when they got drawn against Chelsea, I had no expectations cuz you never know how Barca style was going to match up against Chelsea's regardless of how they look in every other game of the season. I like their style and I like the kind of players they have and in my heart I might feel they are the best team..but if they don't win anything, it kinda hard to make that argument. Most I could do is just enjoy the high points of the season.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Filho on April 29, 2009, 02:38:15 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.

Did they not have their best players on the field? Who else they have on the bench to come and get something done, Bojan came on with time. Who Gudjonson?



elan. at no point did  I say Barca didn't have their best on the field. what really going on? you actually read my post? i am saying that to claim they could not figure it out is not entirely true. I say that cuz of the three clear chances they should have done better with. If Barca was held to only half chances or no clear chances, I would have agreed with you
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 29, 2009, 02:40:20 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.

Did they not have their best players on the field? Who else they have on the bench to come and get something done, Bojan came on with time. Who Gudjonson?



elan. at no point did  I say Barca didn't have their best on the field. what really going on? you actualy read my post?

u eh realize that u cyah reason with some men?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 02:43:44 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.

Did they not have their best players on the field? Who else they have on the bench to come and get something done, Bojan came on with time. Who Gudjonson?



elan. at no point did  I say Barca didn't have their best on the field. what really going on? you actually read my post? i am saying that to claim they could not figure it out is not entirely true. I say that cuz of the three clear chances they should have done better with. If Barca was held to only half chances or no clear chances, I would have agreed with you

Ok I get what you saying. For me figuring it out is scoring and winning the game. I get what you saying.

Sammy thaks for your big contribution. Man United game done yet?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: sammy on April 29, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

Unless you are trying to say that Barca made no clear cut chances, then the first sentence simply isn't true. True Barca didn't carve them up for 90 minutes, but Chelsea is a top class team. Barca made enough openings that if they had won it would not have been undeserved. Either one of Eto'o, Bojan, or Hleb should have done much better. That 2nd sentence is a bit of an exaggeration. When one team comes out and defends most of the game, they haven't outplayed anyone, nor has their coach outcoached anyone. Not any team can pull off what Chelsea did, but that's not because of the tactical nous on display. For one, it was a 0-0 stalemate. Consider this...if Chelsea's tactic was to play attacking football and they went head to head with Barca, both teams made the same number of chances and the match ended in a 0-0 tie, we would say the game was even. Both team neutralized each other. So exactly how does it make sense to say that if one went into a defensive shell from the first minute, barely attacked on the counter, to then claim they outplayed the opponent with the same 0-0 tie. Chelsea was effective and got a decent result. Barca could not break them down enough times to get the goal they wanted. But they also prevented Chelsea from creating any chances of their own (except for Marquez' moment of madness) on the counter and forced them to defend for practically the whole game, preventing the chance for a dreaded away goal. Result..stalemate. Anyway...I understand that's your opinion. No disrespect, just sharing mine.

Did they not have their best players on the field? Who else they have on the bench to come and get something done, Bojan came on with time. Who Gudjonson?



elan. at no point did  I say Barca didn't have their best on the field. what really going on? you actually read my post? i am saying that to claim they could not figure it out is not entirely true. I say that cuz of the three clear chances they should have done better with. If Barca was held to only half chances or no clear chances, I would have agreed with you


Ok I get what you saying. For me figuring it out is scoring and winning the game. I get what you saying.

Sammy thaks for your big contribution. Man United game done yet?

Chelsea season done yet?
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: palos on April 29, 2009, 03:14:58 PM
Probably the same men who could rate Van Der Sar and Reina as the best goalkeepers in the world and forget to mention ah Julio Cruz..

Like yuh goin fuh a davyjenny or wha omar?

Julio Cruz is de Argentinian striker dat does play fuh Inter

Ah feel is Julio Cesar yuh mean

Eh DJ?  ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: JDB on April 29, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
Look how simple you are in your understanding of tactics. If you or anyone could watch what Chelsea do and directly compare it to Man UNited, have to be basic in football. Why no one coming down on big Barcelona in not knowing how to adapt to different teams. So every team have to play a certaing way for Barcelona to show what they have? Come on grow up.

I will educate you here a little.

Man United had 2 major lines of confrontation with no outlet vs Barcelona a year ago. They were on the back foot and absorbing pressure.

Chelsea on the other hand had one major line of confrontation that being the back 4. The midfield was used to stifle play down the middle, not be reactive and absorb pressure. Chelsea midfield was pro active in forcing Barcelona wide to what supposed to be their strong points. However, Barcelona could not use the flanks effectively for a number of reason. Messi and Henry start points were to deep, the full back got good cover from the center backs thus minimizing the space behind the fullback, crossing the ball would have been to Chelsea adavntage and Chelsea mids and defenders kept runner from making proper runs into the box.

Now again Man United upon winning the ball had little or no options a year ago. Chelsea had various outlets on winning the ball. The  thing that confusing you all into thinking that it was all defensive was that they really had no reason to use the outlets much. Drogba remained high and mobile keeping the Barcelona defense in place, and have them unsure about joining the attack. This also created less option for Barcelopna in the middle of the field as their support fron the back was limited. Malouda and Essien was also outlets on the side, therefore Barcelona had to be very careful about how they push on.

Chelsea deployment on the field was in such a manner that if needed they could have stepped up their game and press Barcelona back (like if they went down a goal, which never happened). The last 15 minutes in each half showed how easily Chelsea could have gotten forward. They (Chelsea) was just happy to let Barcelona have the ball, but won the ball in specific positions and turn them back. This is not the same as man UNited defending deep inside their half with no distinct option to go forward whenever they wanted.

So Mr.  JDB no one have to take me serious on this board cause as soon as the thread get to indepth tactics analysis men does start cussing, calling people names or just abandon the thread. You all making all these general tactical observation but not looking at the game within the game. The little nuances, the tweaks that seperate a set of tactics from another.

What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

You are talking level tata.

Read almost any report of the game and you will see that the consensus opinion is not that this was any unique tactical masterpiece  by Chelsea. It was simply unambitious, defensive football. The parallels between the two games are uncanny yet you see this vast difference that, unsurprisingly, paints Chelsea in a  favourable light.

This talk about Chelsea being able to attack "if they decided to" is dotish. If Chelsea was that capable why not play and go back to Stamford bridge with an advantage?

The talk about United not having options last year is also a pile. You were very happy to post game stats last year, well if you lookat the same stats you weill see that United had more chances than Chelsea had. Clearly their options with the ball were not as limited as you trying to make people believe now.

Like I say your objectivity is nil. The fact that you trying to say that this was some tactical masterpiece by Chelsea whereas United last year was negative is just ridiculous. At least I could give Chow credit for calling a spade a spade. And I repect Filho and Kicker for always calling it as they see it even though their respective Spanish sides have been on the wrong end ion recent years.

The funny thing is when Barca went out last year after playing pretty football and failing to create clear chances you laud them as playing brilliant football. This year they get outplayed and outcoached.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 29, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
chelsea is shite
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 29, 2009, 04:02:28 PM
Surgery ends season for Barcelona's Marquez

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Barcelona defender Rafael Marquez will have surgery on his left knee to repair the damage he suffered in Tuesday's goalless Champions League semi-final first leg against Chelsea at the Nou Camp.
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After further tests on Wednesday morning, Barca's medical services said the Mexico international had damaged the internal and external meniscus in his knee and would have arthroscopic surgery on Saturday.

The Primera Liga leaders estimated they would be without Marquez for between eight and 10 weeks, ruling him out of the season run-in.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
Look how simple you are in your understanding of tactics. If you or anyone could watch what Chelsea do and directly compare it to Man UNited, have to be basic in football. Why no one coming down on big Barcelona in not knowing how to adapt to different teams. So every team have to play a certaing way for Barcelona to show what they have? Come on grow up.

I will educate you here a little.

Man United had 2 major lines of confrontation with no outlet vs Barcelona a year ago. They were on the back foot and absorbing pressure.

Chelsea on the other hand had one major line of confrontation that being the back 4. The midfield was used to stifle play down the middle, not be reactive and absorb pressure. Chelsea midfield was pro active in forcing Barcelona wide to what supposed to be their strong points. However, Barcelona could not use the flanks effectively for a number of reason. Messi and Henry start points were to deep, the full back got good cover from the center backs thus minimizing the space behind the fullback, crossing the ball would have been to Chelsea adavntage and Chelsea mids and defenders kept runner from making proper runs into the box.

Now again Man United upon winning the ball had little or no options a year ago. Chelsea had various outlets on winning the ball. The  thing that confusing you all into thinking that it was all defensive was that they really had no reason to use the outlets much. Drogba remained high and mobile keeping the Barcelona defense in place, and have them unsure about joining the attack. This also created less option for Barcelopna in the middle of the field as their support fron the back was limited. Malouda and Essien was also outlets on the side, therefore Barcelona had to be very careful about how they push on.

Chelsea deployment on the field was in such a manner that if needed they could have stepped up their game and press Barcelona back (like if they went down a goal, which never happened). The last 15 minutes in each half showed how easily Chelsea could have gotten forward. They (Chelsea) was just happy to let Barcelona have the ball, but won the ball in specific positions and turn them back. This is not the same as man UNited defending deep inside their half with no distinct option to go forward whenever they wanted.

So Mr.  JDB no one have to take me serious on this board cause as soon as the thread get to indepth tactics analysis men does start cussing, calling people names or just abandon the thread. You all making all these general tactical observation but not looking at the game within the game. The little nuances, the tweaks that seperate a set of tactics from another.

What's even better, Barcelona had their best on the field and could not figure it out. Tactically in terms of results Barcelona got outplayed, and outcoached.

You are talking level tata.

Read almost any report of the game and you will see that the consensus opinion is not that this was any unique tactical masterpiece  by Chelsea. It was simply unambitious, defensive football. The parallels between the two games are uncanny yet you see this vast difference that, unsurprisingly, paints Chelsea in a  favourable light.

This talk about Chelsea being able to attack "if they decided to" is dotish. If Chelsea was that capable why not play and go back to Stamford bridge with an advantage?

The talk about United not having options last year is also a pile. You were very happy to post game stats last year, well if you lookat the same stats you weill see that United had more chances than Chelsea had. Clearly their options with the ball were not as limited as you trying to make people believe now.

Like I say your objectivity is nil. The fact that you trying to say that this was some tactical masterpiece by Chelsea whereas United last year was negative is just ridiculous. At least I could give Chow credit for calling a spade a spade. And I repect Filho and Kicker for always calling it as they see it even though their respective Spanish sides have been on the wrong end ion recent years.

The funny thing is when Barca went out last year after playing pretty football and failing to create clear chances you laud them as playing brilliant football. This year they get outplayed and outcoached.


NObody talking about the tactics being unique. Its the comparison to Man United Tactics and how they differ. See what I am saying. You eh even dispute my tactical observation. YOur response is "you talking tata." So much for YOUR insight.

Up to now you have not seen me say they played top notch football. I said they played good football for the result. I have not said that Barcelona did not play good football, I just felt they did not play as good as they did last year. Last year their mid field domination was much better than this year.

 This is why T&T football does suffer so much, because we feel we have an option it must be used. It is better to take the 0-0 and go home, than attempt to use the option and go down 1-0.

Let me add that I don't need anyone to agree with me, I have my understanding of what went on in the game and it have nothing to do with me being a fan of Chelsea
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: freakazoid on April 29, 2009, 05:37:24 PM
ah dont want to get drawn into allyuh bacchanal but barca this year is better on all counts than the barca team last year except 4 one area. free kicks.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: elan on April 29, 2009, 07:54:18 PM
ah dont want to get drawn into allyuh bacchanal but barca this year is better on all counts than the barca team last year except 4 one area. free kicks.

Very true, totally agree. I was refering to Just the Chelsea game. To me they were squeezed out the middle for long periods of times, whereas last year vs Man United they were more in control in the middle of the field.

I totally agree that Barcelona is boss, they play football how I feel football should be played.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Big Magician on April 29, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
look "special ones" boy
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Toppa on April 29, 2009, 11:18:29 PM
Kicker stop bleddy taking Barca side in anything or bigging dem up in any kinda roundabout way for meh please...  >:(

Classico dis weekend.... so dey is ultimate sh!t for de time being!1

Level toots.... Crapalona...


we could come back to who playing nice football and which league is de best etc next week tuesday

please and thanks.... before ah burst ah damn blood vessel



... bout you kinda agree with pep... gimme ah damn chance

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I coulda swear was Filho who was talking instead ah Kicker.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 30, 2009, 11:41:48 AM
f**k the ref was watching??

(http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_359/foto_359461_CAS.jpg)
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 30, 2009, 11:55:23 AM
f**k the ref was watching??

(http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_359/foto_359461_CAS.jpg)

Bosingwa helping the man get up .... Henry was real wobbly after he head meet Alex shoulder
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 30, 2009, 12:03:37 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/29/wolfgang-stark-referee-barcelona-chelsea (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/29/wolfgang-stark-referee-barcelona-chelsea)

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Barcelona-Chelsea referee says he was right not to dismiss Ballack
  • Michel Platini was 'very satisified' with me, says Stark
  • German official admits game had 'difficult moments'

guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 April 2009 19.35 BST

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Wolfgang Stark shows the yellow card to Chelsea's Michael Ballack. Photograph: Alberto Estevez/EPA

Wolfgang Stark, the referee in last night's semi-final first leg between Barcelona and Chelsea, rejected criticisms of him from the Barcelona camp, saying that the Uefa president, Michel Platini, had even congratulated him.

"Platini was in Camp Nou and after the match he sent me a message indicating he was 'very satisfied' with my performance," said Stark following the Champions League semi-final first leg.

The German official admitted that the game had had its difficult moments but said "that's normal" and he had not had to deal with "ugly scenes and serious fouls".

As for Michael Ballack's foul on Andrés Iniesta which Barcelona felt deserved a second yellow card, Stark, 39, said: "I didn't show a card simply because for me there was no reason to. What he committed was a normal foul, and I punished that foul with a free-kick."

Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on April 30, 2009, 12:59:19 PM
Those Who Played Football 0-0 Those Who Didn't Play At All'


Juliano Belletti was buzzing. "We're really, really pleased," he said. "A 0–0 draw here is an excellent result and although we didn't manage to get a goal in Spain we're confident that we can score at Stamford Bridge. I mean, look at the last round: it was 4–4 in London." The pause was pregnant with twins. You could almost hear the needle skid across the vinyl, grinding to a halt as the music stopped. "But, Juliano," came the reply, "4–4 would put Chelsea out; Barcelona would reach the final."

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And that's the point. This certainly wasn't the way they wanted it. In fact, AS's Fabián Ortiz described it as a night so bad, so anathema to Barcelona, that "all it lacked was the devil incarnate: Jose Mourinho". Messi was "anonymous"; Eto'o, said the former Barcelona director Josep María Minguella, "always received the ball with his back to goal – which is the one thing he is not very good at". And the Madrid press gleefully saw a Barcelona side that was "shattered", "running on empty" and "flaking" just four days from the clásico.

But as the anger and frustration subsides, the irritation at what many culés see as a team that came on a destruction mission with the connivance of the referee, there's a realisation that Barcelona are not in that bad a position after all. "The road to Rome is littered with thorns," ran the headline in Sport, yet it remains open. Before last night's match, a banner declared "all victories lead to Rome"; this morning, one reporter notes, it should read: "a score draw leads to Rome".

"There are," insists Fernando Polo, "two options: go down to some bazaar on the Ramblas, buy a Japanese sword and start planning hara-kiri. Or stay positive and think that nothing is lost; the best is yet to come." Sport agreed: "It's time to see the glass half-full not half-empty. "Think of Stamford Bridge as a final," Joan Vehiles urges, "but one where if Barcelona go 1–0 up they're effectively 2–0 up." Barcelona going one-up is not so far-fetched either, says Santi Nolla: "Chelsea," he insists, "cannot be as ultra-defensive there as they were here."

"Hiddink, good old Guus, was winding us up," ran AS's match report. "He said 'it's going to be an open game with lots of goals because Barcelona attack and so do we'. He must have been talking about the second leg." He certainly wasn't talking about the first – a game in which La Vanguardia pointedly described Didier Drogba as an island in a wide open sea, miles from anywhere, utterly isolated.

"What would you take on a desert island?" asks Carles Rupiérez. "You could always go to Didier Drogba for suggestions. He had 89 minutes to think about it last night, 89 minutes to choose a book, a CD, to go for a mobile phone or a Swiss army knife or a lighter to make fires. Every now and then Piqué or Márquez visited him as they went to collect some strange object his team-mates occasionally sent his way, always by air mail."

There was some praise for Chelsea. Terry was described by one paper as "impeccable". Sport admitted that "Bosingwa stopped Messi without resorting to fouls". And even if there was talk of Barça's "ethical superiority", plenty of commentators pointed out that Hiddink has no obligation to play in a particular way.

Mostly, though, the praise was grudging. Or simply absent. "Chelsea were more of a wrecking company than a football team," El Periódico complained. "Mean-spirited, dull, destructive," said Sport. El Mundo Deportivo talked of "a recital of rough play". Ballack was "slow, badly positioned and always whining," said La Vanguardia; "Alex had no problem just hoofing the ball." All of it was aided by a referee who was attacked as "horrible", "disastrous", a "disgrace"; "all that talk of fair play and then there's none," Xavi complained.

Alongside a scoreboard that read: "Those Who Played Football 0-0 Those Who Didn't Play At All," one Catalan cartoon showed Pep Guardiola, wrapped in white, eyes blindfolded. "The good news is that if there is any justice in the world, we'll reach Rome," he says. "The bad news is that in this sport justice is conspicuous by its absence." In his hand are the scales of justice. There is nothing in the balance. Except, of course, the tie.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: acb on April 30, 2009, 01:32:37 PM
"What would you take on a desert island?" asks Carles Rupiérez. "You could always go to Didier Drogba for suggestions. He had 89 minutes to think about it last night, 89 minutes to choose a book, a CD, to go for a mobile phone or a Swiss army knife or a lighter to make fires. Every now and then Piqué or Márquez visited him as they went to collect some strange object his team-mates occasionally sent his way, always by air mail."

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There was some praise for Chelsea. Terry was described by one paper as "impeccable". Sport admitted that "Bosingwa stopped Messi without resorting to fouls". And even if there was talk of Barça's "ethical superiority", plenty of commentators pointed out that Hiddink has no obligation to play in a particular way.

These guys get the idea. Hiddink's obligation as coach is to get favourable results for Chelsea. A 0-0 draw gained at Camp Nou would have always been a favourable result for anyone matched up against Barca, and there are few - if any - other clubs that could afford to go to Camp Nou and play attacking football and gain a 0-0 draw ... the teams that went to Camp Nou and played a purist style to appear attractive, while ignoring the reality that they needed a favourable result, are exactly where they deserve to be in the semi-finals .... knocked out and at home watching the tie on tv.

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Mostly, though, the praise was grudging. Or simply absent. "Chelsea were more of a wrecking company than a football team," El Periódico complained. "Mean-spirited, dull, destructive," said Sport. El Mundo Deportivo talked of "a recital of rough play". Ballack was "slow, badly positioned and always whining," said La Vanguardia; "Alex had no problem just hoofing the ball." All of it was aided by a referee who was attacked as "horrible", "disastrous", a "disgrace"; "all that talk of fair play and then there's none," Xavi complained.

Sure they weren't talking about Dani Alves, Toure or Puyol? As I recall, it was Toure who got booked for whining to the ref ... and Dani Alves was complaining at every given moment once he was frustrated by solid Chelsea defending.

For being such a good player, Xavi needs to let his game do the talking because everything else eminating from him is verbal diarrhoea .... "horrible", "disastrous", a "disgrace" and lack of fair play is when a black player is booed at all ends of La Liga Stadia and high profile players such as himself condone it by not following suit and walking off the field with their teammates. That probably rules out any chance of a move to the EPL because if he was a victim of the substandard refereeing decisions week-in week-out, he'd probably have to set up an escrow account for fines since he'd be hauled before the FA disciplinary committee on a monthly basis.
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: dinho on April 30, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
"Hiddink, good old Guus, was winding us up," ran AS's match report. "He said 'it's going to be an open game with lots of goals because Barcelona attack and so do we'. He must have been talking about the second leg." He certainly wasn't talking about the first – a game in which La Vanguardia pointedly described Didier Drogba as an island in a wide open sea, miles from anywhere, utterly isolated.

"What would you take on a desert island?" asks Carles Rupiérez. "You could always go to Didier Drogba for suggestions. He had 89 minutes to think about it last night, 89 minutes to choose a book, a CD, to go for a mobile phone or a Swiss army knife or a lighter to make fires. Every now and then Piqué or Márquez visited him as they went to collect some strange object his team-mates occasionally sent his way, always by air mail."


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classic stuff...
Title: Re: Chelsea vs. Barca Thread (28-Apr-09)
Post by: Observer on April 30, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
"Hiddink, good old Guus, was winding us up," ran AS's match report. "He said 'it's going to be an open game with lots of goals because Barcelona attack and so do we'. He must have been talking about the second leg." He certainly wasn't talking about the first – a game in which La Vanguardia pointedly described Didier Drogba as an island in a wide open sea, miles from anywhere, utterly isolated.

"What would you take on a desert island?" asks Carles Rupiérez. "You could always go to Didier Drogba for suggestions. He had 89 minutes to think about it last night, 89 minutes to choose a book, a CD, to go for a mobile phone or a Swiss army knife or a lighter to make fires. Every now and then Piqué or Márquez visited him as they went to collect some strange object his team-mates occasionally sent his way, always by air mail."


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classic stuff...


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