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Shake-up in Under-20 team’s technical staff.
By: Walter Alibey (T&T Newsday).
WITH ONLY three months to go before the start of the FIFA Under-20 World Cup in Egypt, there has been a shake-up in the coaching staff.
The only survivors are coach Zoran Vranes, assistant coach Hutson Charles and manager Chris De Silva.
Those booted out are physiotherapist Otis Hislop, assistant manager Carl Joseph, equipment manager Irvin Thomas, goalkeeper coach Jefferson George and trainer Ashton Mills.
And Anton Corneal has been drafted in as assistant coach.
They all received letters from the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) on Tuesday informing them that their services were no longer needed.
One of the fired officials who requested anonymity explained that no reason was given for their dismissals.
He described the situation as “extremely bad” as it comes so close to the start of the World Cup. The Trinidad and Tobago Under-20s have been drawn in Group “A” with hosts Egypt, Paraguay and Italy.
They will open their campaign against Egypt on September 24 before taking on the Italians on September 28.
The Young Soca Warriors will, on October 1, complete the preliminary rounds of matches with an encounter with South Americans Paraguay.
Yesterday Oliver Camps, president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) said that adjustments were required by coach Vranes hence the shake-up in the Under-20 staff.
The Yugoslavian born coach is currently in the sister-isle of Tobago, as an assistant coach with the senior national team preparing to face Costa Rica in a crucial World Cup Qualifier tomorrow at the Dwight Yorke Stadium.
Newsday learnt that the Under-20 team now trains without the intensity it should exhibit because there is no trainer and physiotherapist.
It was also revealed that Vranes, a former Joe Public coach allegedly had a fall-out with goalkeeper coach George while the team was on a recent tour of Nigeria.
Newsday was also reliably informed that Vranes attempted to intervene during a training session conducted by George but was rebuffed.
Some members of the technical staff are also confused about the appointment of Anton Corneal, coach of the recent unsuccessful Under- 17 football team in Mexico, to the technical staff as assistant coach.
The team trains five times a week at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva and is expected to leave on another overseas international warm-up tournament soon.
Another affected official expressed disappointment at the decision by the football federation. “This is not good at all, at least at this point in time.”
Camps could not give details on who will be replacing the sacked members but issued the assurance that it will be done when he and other members of the football federation return from the current FIFA Congress in the Bahamas.
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Well it look like dey jus gone and blight de u-20 team. How did Anton Corneal get to become de assistant after de shit he jus do wid de u-17 team. Once again de TTFF have me scratchin meh head.
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WHAT!! flippin Anton Corneal AGAIN!!! ???
Man, if I could get wuk like him ah wouldn't have ah care in the world. What he doing tuh get luv up by the TTFF so?
>:(
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sigh
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I don't understaand the logic of the TTFA a lot of times. With all the different coaches in T&T how is it that Anton Corneal and Vranes gets all the jobs to coach these teams? Every year seem to be the same people over and over.
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I am convince. Jack owes Alvin Corneal a big favor because there is no way Anton should be around our teams.
Zorvan Vranes days are numbered.
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Shake-up in Under-20 team’s technical staff.
By: Walter Alibey (T&T Newsday).
Newsday learnt that the Under-20 team now trains without the intensity it should exhibit because there is no trainer and physiotherapist.
nothing cannot run smooth in the ttff ... and corneal oh lord !!!
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WHAT!! flippin Anton Corneal AGAIN!!! ???
Man, if I could get wuk like him ah wouldn't have ah care in the world. What he doing tuh get luv up by the TTFF so?
>:(
Knee pads.
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Anton Corneal....the man is a waste!!!!
Blaming the players for his shortcommings!!!
R.I.P U20!!!!
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After that embarassing show in Mexico? Nice way to reward a coach for doing sh*t...
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steups!! anton like fackin salt when it comes to t&t football. he always in everything. steups!!!
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this is ah real joke and its sad that the youth program has to suffer for big people stupidity!!! no wonder our football program is in the toilet and we does be struggling campaign after campaign to do wat we supposed to be doing and beating these teams in concacaf. no wonder dwight and latas go be playing til they 50 cause TTFF killing we youth football!!! this is a total disgrace....
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this smells rotten....makes no sense that a technical staff that has been havin so much success should be replaced jus before the world cup that they earned qualification for..to be replaced by a coach who miserably failed to accomplish the same feat......smells like fish in the TTFF again....i hope the players (who suppose to matter the most to TTFF but don't) hold dem head and continue them good work some how....Vranes under pressure now...geez boy TTFF allyuh really doh care bout we football nah...cyah see nottin goin good, have to put allyuh hand in it
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in a situation like this, the solution is simple
Jack run tings
Jack run tings
Jack run tings
Jack run tings
Jack run tings
ok ah good for ah next 24 hours
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Peeps here does tell me i talking shyt when i say certain things on this forum,nothing going on here surprises me because it happened to me,is the same people in control,is there way of doing and dealing with situations,if you all don't see a pattern over the years you all blind,show me a Coach in T&T that have never coached a national team wheather it's Snr,Youth,Women,may be Rangers Coach Anthony Streets.
Technical staff,Coaches/Trainers etc are used and abused in T&T,players have been fighting for their sanity though it's not what it should be,but these officials are poppets because they are surviving day to day,they always have to tow the line else this is what happens.Keep blaming the Corneals for everything,the reason they are always involved is because they play the game the TTFF wants them to play.
This is not a shake-up,this is a mash-up,don't be surprised,it's T&T Football,plenty drama always on the edge of your seats,always looking forward to the next episode,Latas boy hold tight ah hear yu strong and could stand up to them,may be you are the answer.
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Peeps here does tell me i talking shyt when i say certain things on this forum,nothing going on here surprises me because it happened to me,is the same people in control,is there way of doing and dealing with situations,if you all don't see a pattern over the years you all blind,show me a Coach in T&T that have never coached a national team wheather it's Snr,Youth,Women,may be Rangers Coach Anthony Streets.
Technical staff,Coaches/Trainers etc are used and abused in T&T,players have been fighting for their sanity though it's not what it should be,but these officials are poppets because they are surviving day to day,they always have to tow the line else this is what happens.Keep blaming the Corneals for everything,the reason they are always involved is because they play the game the TTFF wants them to play.
This is not a shake-up,this is a mash-up,don't be surprised,it's T&T Football,plenty drama always on the edge of your seats,always looking forward to the next episode,Latas boy hold tight ah hear yu strong and could stand up to them,may be you are the answer.
coops at this point i just hope he doesnt become a victim to the jackassness of the TTFF!!! :beermug:
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Peeps here does tell me i talking shyt when i say certain things on this forum,nothing going on here surprises me because it happened to me,is the same people in control,is there way of doing and dealing with situations,if you all don't see a pattern over the years you all blind,show me a Coach in T&T that have never coached a national team wheather it's Snr,Youth,Women,may be Rangers Coach Anthony Streets.
Technical staff,Coaches/Trainers etc are used and abused in T&T,players have been fighting for their sanity though it's not what it should be,but these officials are poppets because they are surviving day to day,they always have to tow the line else this is what happens.Keep blaming the Corneals for everything,the reason they are always involved is because they play the game the TTFF wants them to play.
This is not a shake-up,this is a mash-up,don't be surprised,it's T&T Football,plenty drama always on the edge of your seats,always looking forward to the next episode,Latas boy hold tight ah hear yu strong and could stand up to them,may be you are the answer.
coops at this point i just hope he doesnt become a victim to the jackassness of the TTFF!!! :beermug:
historically MANY people have been treated VERY BADLY :-[ :-[
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how in de world yuh could jump from the embarrassment in Mexico to de U20s...and expect to be respected, dis might be bad to say eh but dem fellahs have as much belly as dem man who does be shooting people in dey head and standing up over dem and pumping more into dem to finish dem off....how dem fellahs could really live wid deyself...watch how he go weasel he way back into de senior team once we qualify for the WC eh.
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d ttff fire dem fellas and dem and put cornmeal dey.
i have a question. who elects ttff officials? men like d brain, oliver gumps, dick greedy, and all the other unknowns dat yuh never hear about but getting rich, to posiitions in d ttfeeblefederation, because if i am not mistaken saddam hussein had a similar way of running elections in iraq where nobody else dare not oppose him and he wins 100% of the votes every time, every time manny. how does it work?
dais d plan to advance d game in tnt for the next 5 years?
WOW!!!!!!!!
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Unless we as fans find some way to get these scoundrels like Jack and Camps out of office we football will not advance. I use to think that we just have to endure until Jack and Camps dead but it suddenly dawn on me that Jack go probably install one ah he sons to take over de TTFF before he dead. I don't think there is any football federation in the world that is run as bad as ours.
And, Anton Corneal doh even have ah lil shame to decline de job? De man just destroy a whole group of footballers in Mexico dey go look to put him around de one group of players that showing some promise for the future.
Anton Corneal if yuh read this ah hope yuh know yuh is a f**kin blight, ah shithong wid ah capital S. Stay away from T&T football please.
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Unless we as fans find some way to get these scoundrels like Jack and Camps out of office we football will not advance. I use to think that we just have to endure until Jack and Camps dead but it suddenly dawn on me that Jack go probably install one ah he sons to take over de TTFF before he dead.
dat is scary. i was visioning d same thing d other day, when it dawned on me, trinidadtobagofeeblefederation is actually a family earloom.
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Thank you for bringing that to light Mr. Alibey. I was hoping to travel to Egypt in September, but I'l put that on hold for now.
If Corneal had any piece of integrity left he would have refused this appointment and take some more time to reflect over that disastrous campaign and its aftermath.
This coach now have a nex big job and where the U-17 players? What TTFF doing for that team? That team should be getting opportunity, instead 'our' federation still looking out for the same coach who already get chance after chance after chance. They abandon a whole team but give their failed coach a big wuk.
The U-20 team could be strengthened by the addition of certain U-17 players, doh expect Corneal to put aside his personal feelings for the good of the team.
Sub1 yuh was right all along boss.
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The message sent is a unique one. The members of the staff who are not responsible for making coaching decisions (outside of the GK coached)were deemed unfit to be a part of the staff. This is surely a change from what should have take place. Only in Trini boy! only in Trini!
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STEUPS!!!!!!
Anton is like a fvkin virus!
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Check and see how many personel from the Technical staff,officials that accompanied the team (WC contingent) from the last WC are involved or around this or our present Snr team,they are all gone,i'm sure a lot of knowledge and experience was gained by those people but they were discarded,i was told by reliable sourses Benie had a well oiled machine and everybody had their share of work cut out for them,it was not a matter of making a trip,you had to work they were all pieces of the puzzle.
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Don't only focus on Corneal alone nah....like ah say already, Vranes done take this team as far as I could take them. I really this team training whole week in ABS...I thought was some church league team oui.
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Don't only focus on Corneal alone nah....like ah say already, Vranes done take this team as far as I could take them. I really this team training whole week in ABS...I thought was some church league team oui.
You eh read where they say there is no athletic trainers so the intensity in practice have to be low. YOu don't want the players to get injured and no trained medical staff on site. Read the article again nah.
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Sometimes a coach can improve from his mistakes. Maybe Anton has learned something from his previous coaching failures and might be able to offer some coaching knowledge that can help the U20 team.
But, if coaching was not meant to be your thing it's like trying to "spin a top in mud"
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Sometimes a coach can improve from his mistakes. Maybe Anton has learned something from his previous coaching failures and might be able to offer some coaching knowledge that can help the U20 team.But, if coaching was not meant to be your thing it's like trying to "spin a top in mud"
The amount of chances he already get, if he was learning something the team would not have lost 7-0 to Mexico and ended up with a 13-0 record. But the pertinent question as Fenwick alluded to was...how come is only he getting chance after chance after chance ad nauseum?
Consider the disparity between the U-20s and the U-17s. Look at their performance against COCACAF opponents. Now tell why we want Corneal as coach again?
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Sometimes a coach can improve from his mistakes. Maybe Anton has learned something from his previous coaching failures and might be able to offer some coaching knowledge that can help the U20 team.
But, if coaching was not meant to be your thing it's like trying to "spin a top in mud"
Why should he learn? People only learn when there is a reason to and he does not have a reason to learn.
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Dont be surprised if after the Eqypt tournament- Anton is back with the Senior team going to South Africa.
Trust me Anton is Latapy successor. Hear ye. If T&T dont qualify for S/A latapy will get the axe- Anton will groom a team for a couple of years until W/c Qualifiers come around and a big name coach will be named. Heaven help us if we then win the Caribbean cup, then he will take us to the preliminary round.
There is a deafening silence from his Father about the under 17 lack of results.
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Anton...
Asst to Beenie
Asst to Wim
Asst to Maturana
Asst to Vranes
See the trend ?
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Just wow. WOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOOW.
Paraguay 20- TNT 0
ITALIA 33 - TNT 0
EGYPT - 18 - TNT 0
The Scores
Italia scores 33 goals, the highest scoring match ever seen in a world cup.
AfterMath:
Coach Anton Corneal blames the players for the loses.
Conclusion
Anton Corneal looks for a better group of young players.
TTFA blacklists under 20 players for life.
I Don't Get It
After failing so miserably with the under 17 team, after embarrassing the entire nation, after disrespecting those young men, not only did the under 17 not score a single goal in qualifying but lost very very heavily in all of their three games.
TTFA WOW
Seems like you have to be a failure consistently for TTFA to hire you these days. Can anyone imagine how bad Corneal resume must look like? Can you imagine any football club or team that would hire this guy BESIDES TTFA?
Yeah sure lets give him THE MOST important job of building a young team for the future.
Enjoy the big six fellas, it might be our last! Lets see what TTFA does when no one wants to watch the National team.
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In trinidad there are very few Coaches with international experience and qualifications.
That is why you see the recycling over and over of the same men.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches with a FIFA A licence or equivalent.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches who has coached in any capacity a national team playing competitions internationally.
Show me a list of TnT based coaches who has coached in a World Cup type setting either finals or qualifications
and most important
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who willing to work for Jack
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who Jack willing to Hire
and Most Most important
Show me a list of Coaches Internationally who will work for the money and under the conditions required under Jack and the TTFF
That is a very short list, Hence you see the same people
OVER and OVER.
Who else in Trinidad will do that work besides Anton.
the man have a niche.
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Plus like the TTFF doh like to hire new ppl ,Anton on the payroll already so make him do some wuk .Save money by hiring say Fenwick ,save more money by firing all the coaches ,anton say he could do all that lol plus he go draft een Mcomee for the keeping dues ,he on the patroll already too .sigh..
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STEUPS!!!!!!
Anton is like a fvkin virus!
is he who cause swine flu
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sighs >:(
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STEUPS!!!!!!
Anton is like a fvkin virus!
is he who cause swine flu
I tort it was GOAT FLU :devil:
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Dem men hadda be brothers in the lodge or someting. It amazing. Oh well.....
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In trinidad there are very few Coaches with international experience and qualifications.
That is why you see the recycling over and over of the same men.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches with a FIFA A licence or equivalent.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches who has coached in any capacity a national team playing competitions internationally.
Show me a list of TnT based coaches who has coached in a World Cup type setting either finals or qualifications
and most important
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who willing to work for Jack
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who Jack willing to Hire
and Most Most important
Show me a list of Coaches Internationally who will work for the money and under the conditions required under Jack and the TTFF
That is a very short list, Hence you see the same people
OVER and OVER.
Who else in Trinidad will do that work besides Anton.
the man have a niche.
Aye Breds you preach,the average person on here will not understand these things,they are the same people who always asking about qualifications,we eh have nothing better that's why he continues to be used.
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Dem men hadda be brothers in the lodge or someting. It amazing. Oh well.....
yuh know, daiz a valid point yuh raise dey. i eh go doubt dat nah!
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My question is...y???
and firing ppls like the GK coach?? that real fishy
who's the new one? .jus curious
Anton pops musta save JAck life back in d days or something
cause this shit doh make sense
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When some of us pong JW and TTFF, others does say we ungrateful. Look all the decisions pertaining to the national team at all age groups are made by Jack. He and TTFF is one and the same. If Camps calls a press conf., believe you me Jack approve that script.
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In trinidad there are very few Coaches with international experience and qualifications.
That is why you see the recycling over and over of the same men.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches with a FIFA A licence or equivalent.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches who has coached in any capacity a national team playing competitions internationally.
Show me a list of TnT based coaches who has coached in a World Cup type setting either finals or qualifications
and most important
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who willing to work for Jack
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who Jack willing to Hire
and Most Most important
Show me a list of Coaches Internationally who will work for the money and under the conditions required under Jack and the TTFF
That is a very short list, Hence you see the same people
OVER and OVER.
Who else in Trinidad will do that work besides Anton.
the man have a niche.
Show me the list of TnT based coaches with a FIFA A licence or equivalent.--FENWICK
Show me the list of TnT based coaches who has coached in any capacity a national team playing competitions internationally.----- CaTCH 22-
Show me a list of TnT based coaches who has coached in a World Cup type setting either finals or qualifications----CATCH 22
and most important
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who willing to work for Jack--FENWICK
Show me a list of TnT Coaches who Jack willing to Hire- DAIS JACK PROBLEM, NOT AN INDICTMENT ON THE COACHES
and Most Most important
Show me a list of Coaches Internationally who will work for the money and under the conditions required under Jack and the TTFF--FENWICK
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Zando you can't be serious,Fenwick working under Jack conditions?you waste a whole post or may be you just felt like posting.
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STEUPS!!!!!!
Anton is like a fvkin virus!
You mean SWINE FLU :devil:
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we need a football version of Abu Bakr to clean out de TTFF.
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When I got the news yday all I can say it is no longer d Peter Principle it is d Anton Principle.
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Shake-up in Under-20 team’s technical staff.
By: Walter Alibey (T&T Newsday).
WITH ONLY three months to go before the start of the FIFA Under-20 World Cup in Egypt, there has been a shake-up in the coaching staff.
The only survivors are coach Zoran Vranes, assistant coach Hutson Charles and manager Chris De Silva.
Those booted out are physiotherapist Otis Hislop, assistant manager Carl Joseph, equipment manager Irvin Thomas, goalkeeper coach Jefferson George and trainer Ashton Mills.
And Anton Corneal has been drafted in as assistant coach.
They all received letters from the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) on Tuesday informing them that their services were no longer needed.
One of the fired officials who requested anonymity explained that no reason was given for their dismissals.
He described the situation as “extremely bad” as it comes so close to the start of the World Cup. The Trinidad and Tobago Under-20s have been drawn in Group “A” with hosts Egypt, Paraguay and Italy.
They will open their campaign against Egypt on September 24 before taking on the Italians on September 28.
The Young Soca Warriors will, on October 1, complete the preliminary rounds of matches with an encounter with South Americans Paraguay.
Yesterday Oliver Camps, president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) said that adjustments were required by coach Vranes hence the shake-up in the Under-20 staff.
The Yugoslavian born coach is currently in the sister-isle of Tobago, as an assistant coach with the senior national team preparing to face Costa Rica in a crucial World Cup Qualifier tomorrow at the Dwight Yorke Stadium.
Newsday learnt that the Under-20 team now trains without the intensity it should exhibit because there is no trainer and physiotherapist.
It was also revealed that Vranes, a former Joe Public coach allegedly had a fall-out with goalkeeper coach George while the team was on a recent tour of Nigeria.
Newsday was also reliably informed that Vranes attempted to intervene during a training session conducted by George but was rebuffed.
Some members of the technical staff are also confused about the appointment of Anton Corneal, coach of the recent unsuccessful Under- 17 football team in Mexico, to the technical staff as assistant coach.
The team trains five times a week at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva and is expected to leave on another overseas international warm-up tournament soon.
Another affected official expressed disappointment at the decision by the football federation. “This is not good at all, at least at this point in time.”
Camps could not give details on who will be replacing the sacked members but issued the assurance that it will be done when he and other members of the football federation return from the current FIFA Congress in the Bahamas.
Why am I not surprised I wonder?! ::)
Well done Anton, just reward for your U-17's team's performance recently! :applause:
Watch us shock the world with the level our football in Egypt!! :timeout:
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Zando you can't be serious,Fenwick working under Jack conditions?you waste a whole post or may be you just felt like posting.
Tht is the best you could come with? That he may or may not work with Jack...If he didn't want de wuk, why he campaign so loud for it?
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Re: Shake-up in Under-20 team’s technical staff
more like a shakedown
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As soon as Anton Corneal join this under 20 team they get blight....
Look out for ah next set of licks when we go Egypt.
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As soon as Anton Corneal join this under 20 team they get blight....
Look out for ah next set of licks and d lame excuse when we go Egypt.
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As soon as Anton Corneal join this under 20 team they get blight....
Look out for ah next set of licks when we go Egypt.
I was thinking the same thing....
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shit rolls down hill.
if they are not focus at the top how do you or anyone else for that matter expect the bottom to be focus.
losers at the top begat losers at the bottom.
capeche?