Besides he apparently has NOT been playing AT ALL for his club. Is he injured? Any US-based know?
It have nothing to do with College Ball, because if that was de case then de US team would have been shit..... Is how players approach de game, most players who finish school in de US should join some PFL team for a 6 months and then move on, just to get a taste of what it takes or a reality check.
Sealy, as from what I have seen so far is NOT ready !!!!
Though the time a player trains per week will be less for a college team than a pro team, highly ranked college teams are not weak teams compared to lets say PFL teams. Some can in fact beat PFL teams. U have to take into consideration that guys also want a higher education whether for self satisfaction or for other reasons. Players also get injuires that hinder them from making it into the pro ranks, so having a bachelor's is just having a plan B in certain circumstances.
Now besides Marlon, who career looking Shakey, Rahim who never had a career of mention, Nahkid who career done, Stern who career shakey, Sancho who looking for a Club and Shaka who looking for a club. Who else who play college ball make it?
| Player | US College |
| Glenn Benjamin | University of Mobile |
| Richard Chinapoo | Long Island University |
| Craig Demmin | Belhaven College |
| Leslie Fitzpatrick | Columbia University |
| Richard Goddard | Roberts Wesleyan College |
| Brian Haynes | Erskine College |
| Nigel Henry | Howard University |
| Shaka Hislop | Howard University |
| Kevin Jeffrey | Yavapai College/Virginia Commonwealth University |
| Kelvin Jack | Yavapai College |
| Avery John | Yavapai College/American University |
| Stern John | Mercer County Community College |
| Darin Lewis | University of Connecticut |
| Clint Marcelle | St. Francis College |
| David Nakhid | American University |
| Garth Pollonais | Erskine College |
| Brent Rahim | University of Connecticut |
| Marlon Rojas | St. John's University/University of Tampa |
| Brent Sancho | St. John's University |
| Scott Sealy | Wake Forest University |
| Mickey Trotman | University of Mobile |
| Dimelon Westfield | Clemson University |
| Evans Wise | Mercer University |
I agree that college ball may hinder the development of players but I believe the majority of the guys who choose that route are thinking of an education more than professional football. A few who choose college, i.e. Avery, Rahim, still pursue a professional career because it is was their dream but they wanted to have a degree to fall back on.
In response to Trinimassive....
Yes they can always get a degree after but do you think they will be willing to spend about $60,000 in tuition at that stage in their life.
Arrow is one line in a whole post throw you orf so.
Nobody saying anything bad...........isnt Shaka looking for a club? The point of the post is not to judge ones achievements, but rather show that those who make it from the College circuit pales in comparison to those who do not attend.
The names you call after further reinforces my point. Thank you!
Don't forget the work in progress who playing for Rangers and who just win a league title.
I eh so sure if a man go to College, get a degree but didn't make it big in football to say he fall by the wayside. For some of these guys football is a means to greater ends.
Yuh think Nahkid woulda be the man we know today if he didn't pass through College....same for Shaka.
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Personally I would pick 4 years at Ajax over 4 years at Erskine College.
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Personally I would pick 4 years at Ajax over 4 years at Erskine College.
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:D...so why don't everybody again ? How much million manand some
Of course development wise, any pro-team would be ideal.
Excellent Flex,we doh need guardian and express dey need you.Ditto. Thanx for the Update
I think a big topic which you mentioned is ....where are the junior national teams? We must talk about that because i can't understand how national teams could disappear...Go T&T
I think a big topic which you mentioned is ....where are the junior national teams? We must talk about that because i can't understand how national teams could disappear...Go T&T
i don't think the teams disappear but the players do. Most young players leave to take up schols because they think after a few years in college, they could get a contract and start to make some money so they rather go that way than to stay here. Half the youths who go out there to college never come back and also get lost somewhere in the wilderness of has beens. I know quite a few fellas who went out there to play football and now, after college they aren't even playing ball anymore, they either shacked up with a whitey or hustling. The MTV lifestyle has blinded many a good player.
I think a big topic which you mentioned is ....where are the junior national teams? We must talk about that because i can't understand how national teams could disappear...Go T&T
i don't think the teams disappear but the players do. Most young players leave to take up schols because they think after a few years in college, they could get a contract and start to make some money so they rather go that way than to stay here. Half the youths who go out there to college never come back and also get lost somewhere in the wilderness of has beens. I know quite a few fellas who went out there to play football and now, after college they aren't even playing ball anymore, they either shacked up with a whitey or hustling. The MTV lifestyle has blinded many a good player.
iz not that iz them youth dat does go to college and by de time they graduste them have ah bachelors and wont work fuh pro league fees so them does end up in ah big fete match team instead ah de pro league
The MTV lifestyle has blinded many a good player.
fatz you rellllllll stupid to say shyt like honors degree. all de man who playing in college must complete school professor fatz
jah and yuh ask what kind of degree that mean anything to anybody???
to wipe ah toilet yuh need ah degree
come nah fatz i dout yuh that stupid
when yuh have ah bachelors yuh have to work fuh ah certain paycheck
The MTV lifestyle has blinded many a good player.
Steups..ah know MTV is a de devil and a big corruptor but why yuh didnt say BET instead eh.. to me they following the 'gansta' lifestyle.
fatz when these trinis come up here to play they are held to academic standards
thats what i'm talking about
breds if we was considering community colleges i would be in the college players line up cause i play fuh tidewater.
i talking bout uconn, fsu, ,morehouse and dem big boys
fatz when these trinis come up here to play they are held to academic standards
thats what i'm talking about
Does a community college and a normal college have the same academic standards?
breds if we was considering community colleges i would be in the college players line up cause i play fuh tidewater.
i talking bout uconn, fsu, ,morehouse and dem big boys
A next thing, how much of our youths actually get to play for the big colleges??
breds if we was considering community colleges i would be in the college players line up cause i play fuh tidewater.
i talking bout uconn, fsu, ,morehouse and dem big boys
A next thing, how much of our youths actually get to play for the big colleges??
take ah ticket yuh blasted uninformed so called die hard
type in college players round-up in de blasted search engine or better yet go to the main page and see where flex have all the boys we have playing over here about a hundred
stern play fuh ah community college
breds if we was considering community colleges i would be in the college players line up cause i play fuh tidewater.
i talking bout uconn, fsu, ,morehouse and dem big boys
A next thing, how much of our youths actually get to play for the big colleges??
take ah ticket yuh blasted uninformed so called die hard
type in college players round-up in de blasted search engine or better yet go to the main page and see where flex have all the boys we have playing over here about a hundred
... what i meant was the NCAA division I, II or even III sides, how many of them play in those divisions because i was checking the college rankings and i only saw a couple schools like university of Charleston and Uconn who are in Division I and on the list there's some college like davis & elkins which is nowhere on any of the college rankings lists.Fatz, a D1 school does not mean that its better than a D2 school. D1 means that the school has more money for their athletic dept. Also a lot of the college players dont play NCAA but they play NAIA which allows professional players to play. So because a player aint going UConn or Maryland dat doh mean he not in a good football school.
Although I agree that players coming out of college ball will be behind players who in the professional setting in the 4 years i think we watching it in a the wrong way. The first problem is that we keep referring to them as players. People in college are not players, they are students who play whereas in the professional setting you are a player first whether or not education is provided on the side. With that said, as a former college player and a man who know other US players the main problem of the standard not being as high is the bane of all men: rum and women.
U in college, ppl, whether u love the game or not it have real partying going on and only the real committed ppl going to sacrifice their whole college experience to live the life of a pro footballer in watching everything u eat and drink and doing extra training and so on. Most of the people who attend college hope for a contract,yeah, but really putting most of their faith in their degree. With that in mind, u hadda be real dedicated to put everything else aside to concentrate primarily on a football career, which is what somebody already in the professional setup has the luxury of doing.
And not to mention...we is trinis, we love to party. Honestly, i think that if u really dedicated to becoming a pro and maiking it after college, u could come out as good as or better than a yute who playing pro league down here during those 4 years, but u hadda be dedicated enough to focus your energies on that goal, just as in everything else in life.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:stern play fuh ah community college
I was going and mention that to him and i know Stern and they couldn't even bother to screen him academically because that would have been a waste of time. I am sure he came out of school with less than 2 passes at CXC. I went Eldo the same time he was there and all he used to do was lime and bull the secretary, a nice reds(or so i heard but from good soruces)
Been reading dis board for months, and finally decided to post. First, lemme say good job by the moderators and hello to everyone on this board. About division I college ball, it is definitely higher than SSFL, and anybody who say so doh really believe that, or the schools they see play getting 12 every game. I would say they would give PFL teams a hard run for they money though. It is not at all pretty to watch, but it tough and effective. It is designed mostly to win at all costs. When I watch my school (Clemson) play, yuh cyar even pick out more that 3 men you will go to see. Is simply big, strong, fast men playing to win and not to conceed goals,. That is how americans play "soccer" and it is reflected in the MLS. That is not how we are taught, and our players get lost in between what we know and what we are taught at college level. Right now a youthman who serious about football should stay in trinidad if he want a contract. Opportunities have increased exponentially in trinidad. The system here ain't designed to push thru trinidadians anyway. As some a alyuh said before, men leaving out football after getting their degrees. Also, european teams look for men from 17-21 in Trinidad rather than from college football or MLS at the age of 22-23.
... what i meant was the NCAA division I, II or even III sides, how many of them play in those divisions because i was checking the college rankings and i only saw a couple schools like university of Charleston and Uconn who are in Division I and on the list there's some college like davis & elkins which is nowhere on any of the college rankings lists.Fatz, a D1 school does not mean that its better than a D2 school. D1 means that the school has more money for their athletic dept. Also a lot of the college players dont play NCAA but they play NAIA which allows professional players to play. So because a player aint going UConn or Maryland dat doh mean he not in a good football school.
Sometimes a player gone to a big school and he end up in d dog house because he and d coach get away or because playing with 1 striker and he and he isnt d kind of player for dat role.....so sometimes going to a less popular school isnt a bad thing.
I think we tend to have our own expectations of players too. while i was in secondary school i asked a couple of SSFL stars if they want to go pro and a lot of them said no. They have love for the game but they was on books and we as friends and fans are saying" why men with this level of talent want to waste it?" But dem fellas already have their plan to get a football schol to pay for their tertiary education so i cyah vex with a man who know what is his goal in life and using football as a means to get it.
Ok now i just wondering if the ttff, gets the information that we get here,hopefully they do and hopefully we could start seeing some of these players in training with u23's u21's and even snr team
Carron Williams who was quoted as EX QRC actually is from tobago and is EX Signal Hill..
good catch oconnorg keep them on their toes ;D
Caron Williams who was quoted as EX QRC actually is from tobago and is EX Signal Hill..QRC is where carron really started to shine... ask st anthony's ;D
Carron Williams, Keon Yearwood, Devin Sheppard all at some point coached Under BSc.
MORvant you think thiese guys ready for international football eh. they not even professionalscan't speak for all but i know for a fact julius james has impressed against bayern munich's U23 or u21 team when ucon went on pre season tour, and he holds his own every week against future US national snr team players week in and week out. I am very sure if a european club doesnt pick him up right after college, he will be drafted in the first round of the mls draft.He is one of the few tnt youth players i can see making the snr team in time for next yrs world cup.
Carron Williams who was quoted as EX QRC actually is from tobago and is EX Signal Hill..good catch oconnorg keep them on their toes ;D
Yes, Carron Williams is from Tobago, but he also attended QRC.
killa, you have to be kidding me with james sitting on the bench. none of thos guys ready for that football. NONE!!! Maybe the future yes, but now, NONE!!!! Or gorsh, face reality. Ah know yuh like James, maybe that is yuh family or best friend, all well and good. But be honest with yuhself, these guys are not ready. Good players, but need development and a lot of exposure at that level first. CATCH YUHSELF DOGZ!!!!yes u said it urself they need exposure and james is one of the few ready for that exposure....like u really doh see how the big teams do it they get about 2-3 youth players an have them training with the team and put them on the bench and they run out ever so often.....thank god u not the coach nah
killa, you have to be kidding me with james sitting on the bench. none of thos guys ready for that football. NONE!!! Maybe the future yes, but now, NONE!!!! Or gorsh, face reality. Ah know yuh like James, maybe that is yuh family or best friend, all well and good. But be honest with yuhself, these guys are not ready. Good players, but need development and a lot of exposure at that level first. CATCH YUHSELF DOGZ!!!!yes u said it urself they need exposure and james is one of the few ready for that exposure....like u really doh see how the big teams do it they get about 2-3 youth players an have them training with the team and put them on the bench and they run out ever so often.....thank god u not the coach nah
killa, you have to be kidding me with james sitting on the bench. none of thos guys ready for that football. NONE!!! Maybe the future yes, but now, NONE!!!! Or gorsh, face reality. Ah know yuh like James, maybe that is yuh family or best friend, all well and good. But be honest with yuhself, these guys are not ready. Good players, but need development and a lot of exposure at that level first. CATCH YUHSELF DOGZ!!!!yes u said it urself they need exposure and james is one of the few ready for that exposure....like u really doh see how the big teams do it they get about 2-3 youth players an have them training with the team and put them on the bench and they run out ever so often.....thank god u not the coach nah
For real boy. DAMN
hahahahaahhaahhaaahahaaha......ALYUH REALLY CRACKING ME UP HERE. Let me tell alyuh something eh, first of all i doh ever fight down NO players..none!!!. Have you guys ever seen a college team played? Have you guys ever seen James played with Trinidad against some of the other team leading up to the world cup? And doh tell meh nothing about he did not get the chance. The answer to both questons is NO!!!!! So how the a@$ you could just pop up and say just so that he could be a man to come off the bench. THANKS GOD YOU!!!! IS NOT THE COACH
For your information...college and national football is two totally different levels. TOTALLY!!! The Big East was very unbalance this season. There were like 4 good teams and the rest of team was garbage.
James is a player for the future. Not for this upcoming world cup. Fabien Lewis, Anthony Noriega are better players than James and i doh even think them fellas ready for world cup football. We need to be honest with ourselves. I like James as a player, he has improved a lot....the man good. But or gorsh, be realistic. Alyuh really feel the man could stop men like Adriano from Brazil, borgetti from Mexico, Beasley from the US, Shevchenko from Ukraine or Tevez from Argentina? OH MY GOD, wake up my people. We need international exposure for the world cup. We need big players. Alyuh just ignorant man...COME ON!!
But ah realise something, it seems like OCONNORG, TEFLON DON and MORVANTMAN is either the same person or know each other very well.
Julius James is not up to National senior level....its that simple....I see him play against St. John's ...he had a good game but he is not up to international standards nor we expect him to be...He would have to play competitive professional football to be picked...And i definitely think that Beenhakker's style doesn't suit him....He is a clean up man(Sweeper) not a player that has great control and vision in the back...He has pace and he is strong and reads the game relatively well..He is suited for the US college league where he just has to kick it out or head it out and do 'clean up'.....I don't even think he could make a PFL team because men like Jamerson,Toussaint, Marcano, Clement etc. will take him apart....But he is young and has time to improve into a great player...Anthony Noreiga and Fabien Lewis are miles ahead of James when it comes to playing it from the back,tackling, and reading the game...James just got into a good school...Its that simple....2010 is my best bet....GoT&T....
Kingman....i respect ur views all ppl saying is that out of all the defensive youth players that we have he is the one that ppl see ready to step up to the next level...in order to help him make this step he NEEDS to have exposure with the snr team against world class teams....this is bcuz we not tryin jus to go to worldcup ONCE, we want players who can play at the highest level so that we can make this a common thing. Dog, sancho, tallest etc etc have not found the fountain of eternal youth as yet so until they do we need to prepare for when they leave, if you know young defensive players better than Julius James plz let us know, and help us push for them to get into the team so that the changing of the guards will be easier. I t doh matter if he could stop adriano or schevchenco or who ever wat matters is that he will gain experience on the world stage....like u feel being 21 is"young" ...boy chek all dem leagues in d world an u will see how many 18yr olds playing there......And to be honest these fellas r pushed into these situations, from the time they show talent they are put in with the big boys to gain experience...so once again i would say THANK GOD U NOT D COACH...cuz we would play with a FRIGGIN old man side for d rest of we life
Julius James is not up to National senior level....its that simple....I see him play against St. John's ...he had a good game but he is not up to international standards nor we expect him to be...He would have to play competitive professional football to be picked...And i definitely think that Beenhakker's style doesn't suit him....He is a clean up man(Sweeper) not a player that has great control and vision in the back...He has pace and he is strong and reads the game relatively well..He is suited for the US college league where he just has to kick it out or head it out and do 'clean up'.....I don't even think he could make a PFL team because men like Jamerson,Toussaint, Marcano, Clement etc. will take him apart....But he is young and has time to improve into a great player...Anthony Noreiga and Fabien Lewis are miles ahead of James when it comes to playing it from the back,tackling, and reading the game...James just got into a good school...Its that simple....2010 is my best bet....GoT&T....
i still believe he should be on the team thats my view...never say start him, but he should be there...and d same tevez that was there in trinidad 2001 he reach so far in his career bcuz he showed potential and the coaches included him bit by bit with the snr team
Tevez who now plays for corinthians in brazil was Starting striker with Maxi lopez who now plays for Barcelona so U get ur facts correct.....u is a rel mad man yes lolololi still believe he should be on the team thats my view...never say start him, but he should be there...and d same tevez that was there in trinidad 2001 he reach so far in his career bcuz he showed potential and the coaches included him bit by bit with the snr team
Teflon Don.....get yuh facts right boy. Tevez was not in Trinidad for that under 17 world cup in 2001. He played and was a star in the under 20 world cup in argentina. And yes, ah address better players to sit on the bench for Trinidad and yet realistically they not ready for that level. NEXT TOPIC
nobody_s angel , why alyuh men so ignorant and dumb ras? yuh want to know better men who could sit on the bench, noriega, lewis, sandy... we even have local me like lyndon diaz, atiba charles....why trinidad people so boy....alyuh have to be like either julius james himself or his father, mother, sister, brother, uncle, aunt or something boy. why alyuh sucking this man ........ so. NEXT TOPIC
jah boy dis kingman on drugs awa!? i remeber tevez when he scored ah rel bes goal against nigeria he touched my hand when he was runnin by d on next to d track pitch gates around d hasley crawford stadium wit he big stink neck. :devil: :rotfl: He a rel killa doh 8)Jefferz yuh could see you is a ass-licking waggonist...Yuh feel tevez even care which asshole he touch in the crowd....What kingman really saying Julius James is good but if you have to mention any college defender Fabien Lewis and Anthony Noriega much better....And he is still not up to National standard....If he has to be nurtured then Lewis and Noriega must be mentioned in front of him....Not because yuh hear about the man and yuh int know much players yuh will 'claim' James is super-defender,,,,Learn about allyuh players...Bless
yes mr....allyuh have ah set of mouth ........always have somethig to say.....anyways tevez did play in trinidad in 2001 u17 worldcup.and i played with james before ..quality player indeed...with no doubt about it noreiga is a far more better allround player than james...aanybody know mbwana johnson from university at buffalo....he played at p/ville he is a quality center back too
I support the man from Morvant in this, i think James could replace dog in central d for T&T. He and Kenwyne played on the same St. Anthony's team and Kenwyne playing senior now so who is James?? James is a more mature fella than Kenwyne and judging from all the accolades he's getting in foreign, he should get a call up for the big dance because he's a very secure player and this would be great experience for his and our future as a country in the world cup.
Good day to you all. I am very happy to see all these players being appreciated for their work in the US especially Anthony Noreiga and Ateba McKnight. These two players, if well groomed will become great additions to the soca warriors. McKnight has to be the deadliest striker to grace secondary school football in the past 10 years when he played for my school, naparima college. Noreiga started of has a striker for Pleasantville Senior Comp but was converted to a defender at Princess Town.deadliest striker in d past 10 years i doubt it....probably the deadliest in his zone or in the years when marco elcock...cornell glen.....scott sealy...where NOT there
I will like to know what became of Joel Bailey a good friend of mine at naps. Boy could he play
Even though Lincoln and dem men aware of de talented Trini players in de indoor league in de states, dey refuse to give de men respect and even take a look at dem. Bailey, Boney, Regis, Rique in indoor and quite a few outdoor...
Boney not up to it physically, Rique may not have de experience, but Bailey is a definite threat on de ball and Regis is a very good wingback. These two have outdoor experience in de a-league.Regis last played in de A-League 6 years ago fuh de Hershey Wildcats. As ah said, Bailey get call up, but he eh make de side, plus he eh currently playing outdoor ball.
... these indoor players are professionals who make at least $3000 US a month, dis is not small goal on yuh blasted blockYes, I'm aware dat dey make some decent money, but yuh cyar have it both ways, yuh should be playing outdoor ball if yuh want tuh make it at dat level. It would interesting tuh know how many players in de Indoor league does currently play fuh dey national team.
man have to eat. it's a money thing, way to make a decent living especially if you ain't no spring chicken. Or Maybe them fellas ain't cater, get sour with TTFF over the yrs and overs the national team. the indoor game way harder than it look.Me eh have no problem wit dey choices, but is ah different game wit different requirements.
These players make more money than any locally based pro in Trinidad and most in de a-league. Dat is de reason for playing indoor or futsal type ball in de states. Quality is quality anyway and we should have someone take a look. Boney not up to it physically, Rique may not have de experience, but Bailey is a definite threat on de ball and Regis is a very good wingback. These two have outdoor experience in de a-league. Ask Sancho and Avery, dey will tell yuh. ;D By de way Morvantman these indoor players are professionals who make at least $3000 US a month, dis is not small goal on yuh blasted block
fantastic fuh your information morvantman iz ah forum name arseholeBailey and dem have degrees(i think) but they young and that ok for a youth man...They could save and come home and live decent after a while
secondly i am in the military and per diem iz like 100$ a day so $3000 ah month iz small money pardna
small timer :rotfl:
thats seems to happen to most of our footballers who get schols to usa colleges they jus stop playing serious ball. i wonder r those US schols a blessing or a curse to our football development
[/I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.quote]
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
thats seems to happen to most of our footballers who get schols to usa colleges they jus stop playing serious ball. i wonder r those US schols a blessing or a curse to our football development
I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
Quote[/I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.quote]
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
I couldn't disagree with you more. It's not that the US development does kill our playeres. The problem is that we have too many talkers and non-players on this site.
When men come to the US, reality hits that:
1. Men older and more mature
2. You understand and start preparing for life outside of football
I can't speak for others but I know that I improved tremendously in the US more so than I did in trini, however, some people are late bloomers. It just so happens that not everyone wants to play pro ball.
Does anyone consider the fact that less than 1% of athletes make it to the professional ranks? When men start adding up the $, they figure with a degree they can make a substantial amount of money and don't necessarily want to chase dreams that may never materialize.
Just food for thought!
thats seems to happen to most of our footballers who get schols to usa colleges they jus stop playing serious ball. i wonder r those US schols a blessing or a curse to our football development
I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
what you saying about UK Universities(you must mean) dont offer to Trinis is bullsh*t. They dont offer Football Scholaships at all!!!!
UK schools don't offer football schols to trinis and from what i heard their football at that level is not organized...so the US is the best option for our players.
what you saying about UK Universities(you must mean) dont offer to Trinis is bullsh*t. They dont offer Football Scholaships at all!!!!
UK schools don't offer football schols to trinis and from what i heard their football at that level is not organized...so the US is the best option for our players.
I really should of put a LOL on that. I was actually backing ur point. Never Mindwhat you saying about UK Universities(you must mean) dont offer to Trinis is bullsh*t. They dont offer Football Scholaships at all!!!!
UK schools don't offer football schols to trinis and from what i heard their football at that level is not organized...so the US is the best option for our players.
Calm yuhself..i could only talk about trinis..i not living in england so I don't know what goes on there ...so watch yuhself...i am not yuh son...
Some of them do. London Met, Loughborough...The big name sports unis.They Give You Blighs on Courses if you good at football not schols.
I really should of put a LOL on that. I was actually backing ur point. Never Mindwhat you saying about UK Universities(you must mean) dont offer to Trinis is bullsh*t. They dont offer Football Scholaships at all!!!!
UK schools don't offer football schols to trinis and from what i heard their football at that level is not organized...so the US is the best option for our players.
Calm yuhself..i could only talk about trinis..i not living in england so I don't know what goes on there ...so watch yuhself...i am not yuh son...
lol :DI really should of put a LOL on that. I was actually backing ur point. Never Mindwhat you saying about UK Universities(you must mean) dont offer to Trinis is bullsh*t. They dont offer Football Scholaships at all!!!!
UK schools don't offer football schols to trinis and from what i heard their football at that level is not organized...so the US is the best option for our players.
Calm yuhself..i could only talk about trinis..i not living in england so I don't know what goes on there ...so watch yuhself...i am not yuh son...
Hard luck dey..I misinterpret yuh post.
Quote[/I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.quote]
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
I couldn't disagree with you more. It's not that the US development does kill our playeres. The problem is that we have too many talkers and non-players on this site.
When men come to the US, reality hits that:
1. Men older and more mature
2. You understand and start preparing for life outside of football
I can't speak for others but I know that I improved tremendously in the US more so than I did in trini, however, some people are late bloomers. It just so happens that not everyone wants to play pro ball.
Does anyone consider the fact that less than 1% of athletes make it to the professional ranks? When men start adding up the $, they figure with a degree they can make a substantial amount of money and don't necessarily want to chase dreams that may never materialize.
Just food for thought!
Quote[/I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.quote]
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
I couldn't disagree with you more. It's not that the US development does kill our playeres. The problem is that we have too many talkers and non-players on this site.
When men come to the US, reality hits that:
1. Men older and more mature
2. You understand and start preparing for life outside of football
I can't speak for others but I know that I improved tremendously in the US more so than I did in trini, however, some people are late bloomers. It just so happens that not everyone wants to play pro ball.
Does anyone consider the fact that less than 1% of athletes make it to the professional ranks? When men start adding up the $, they figure with a degree they can make a substantial amount of money and don't necessarily want to chase dreams that may never materialize.
Just food for thought!
Quote[/I have been saying that USA football does kill our footballers, yuh have to remember that USA is not a traditional football country, so when the players finish their degree there is no competitive football for them to carry on their development, unless they are the outstanding players in their divisions.quote]
The better option in terms of education and football development is the United Kingdom.
Their chances of playing in the lower leagues are much more better than the USA due to the exposure they can get with several football clubs.
In the USA their are restrictions on players who may want to play club football while they are at University.
The education is also very good in British universities.
I couldn't disagree with you more. It's not that the US development does kill our playeres. The problem is that we have too many talkers and non-players on this site.
When men come to the US, reality hits that:
1. Men older and more mature
2. You understand and start preparing for life outside of football
I can't speak for others but I know that I improved tremendously in the US more so than I did in trini, however, some people are late bloomers. It just so happens that not everyone wants to play pro ball.
Does anyone consider the fact that less than 1% of athletes make it to the professional ranks? When men start adding up the $, they figure with a degree they can make a substantial amount of money and don't necessarily want to chase dreams that may never materialize.
Just food for thought!
Well said...far too many Trinidadians who never left TnT live to take potshots at the US and anything that it represents. The focus should be on the development of the individual not on TnT football...if TnT football happens to benefit alongside said individual development/growth/betterment...den more fete :beermug:
leh me put in mi 5 cents socamericans doh cuss me ah jus saying what ah observe bsc coaching sch has ties with colleges in usa and approx 3 - 5 players leave to go on us schols every year the only person i can recall that has represented the national team after going that path was hayden "burt" fitzwilliams and no offence to him he wasnt the best to have gone on a schol.signal hill won the intercol or big 7 in 1995 about 7 members from that squad have since left on schols not 1 note is sound about them wrt football. snake eyes( cant recall his correct name) was the sweeper for that side he went on to skipper the then joe public which was the hottest thing back then imagine he skipper joe public at 20 -21 yrs and then go on a schol and seems to have disappeared. i dont believe the usa is at fault how can theybe, its our footballl administrators who i believe r now starting to make ties with our us based college players keeping them in the loop remember these guys finish with degrees so they have other options besides football. keeping them in the loop is very important.
and yes the thread get hijack ( ah frighten to say kidnap)
i can name a handfull of meh.. who started of in the NCAA soccer and has ended out very well.
Stern, Shaka, Avery, Rahim....just to name a few
i can name a handfull of meh.. who started of in the NCAA soccer and has ended out very well.
Stern, Shaka, Avery, Rahim....just to name a few
Out of thousands, check the stats.
Tallman give us a rundown on the number of Trini's that have attended US universities and the number that have turned pro.
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
i can name a handfull of meh.. who started of in the NCAA soccer and has ended out very well.
Stern, Shaka, Avery, Rahim....just to name a few
Out of thousands, check the stats.
Tallman give us a rundown on the number of Trini's that have attended US universities and the number that have turned pro.
JAH BLESS RASTAFARI
Rastafari, how things going pal? Well let me give my run down on the situation.
Scott Seally, Brent Sancho, Anthony Noreiga, Joel Bailey, Travis Sobers, Craig Denim, Marlon Rojas, Leslie Fitzpatrick, Kevin Jeffrey are some more players to add to the list of players that make it after they play college football in the US.
Not every player makes it to the next level. In any country (whether football fanatic nation or not) some great players are left behind. Let me ask you this rastafari, do you think that those players lost in the US college system would have been better off playing in Trinidad? In this way I mean, would they have eventually been a foreign base professional or established player? Do you really think is the TTFF fault for letting these players move to greener pastures?
At least they have a degree to show for their efforts. As i said, even if they were in Trinidad or Europe, that did not mean they would have been successful and move to the professional ranks. Everyone one have their destiny to trod and what is meant to be will be. You understand where i am coming from? I think taking the scholarship is a risk yes and yes we have lost a lot of players through the system. However, imagine if they only had football going for them and that then turned failure, at least we would not have another coke pusher or wild gun man in our country.
Kingman
Scott Sealy is ready in my opinoin for int'l football at the WCQ level. I agree to an extent that college ball in the US may not be the best option for fellas wanting to go pro, but on the other hand a lot of fellas that do do exceptionally well on the NCAA or NAIA circuit make a lot of contacts and network a lot during their time in the US. i.e they sell themselves to a wider market. It may be right to say that Yorke wouldnt be the star he is today if he played college ball but it is also about timing and opportunity. Though the time a player trains per week will be less for a college team than a pro team, highly ranked college teams are not weak teams compared to lets say PFL teams. Some can in fact beat PFL teams. U have to take into consideration that guys also want a higher education whether for self satisfaction or for other reasons. Players also get injuires that hinder them from making it into the pro ranks, so having a bachelor's is just having a plan B in certain circumstances.You talking shit there. University of Maryland cannot beat Jabloteh.
So i think that players wanting to go pro but coming on the NCAA cicuit is debatable as some have limited options.
** Scott Sealy could handle it, he just needs to be given a chance. The man has a nack for scoring.
The arguement about USA college system spoiling our players is ridiculous. first, if we take a look at the players that come to college - most were not even considered in any big way back home, most came because they needed an education (not a professional contract), they did not come to become better players. The other thing is this almost every US player playing aboard are starting for their teams in Europe, and playing for bigger teams than our players, but most of OUR stars are playing in lower division leagues and still coming of the bench.This quote should end all the discussion on this topic,it's the best reasoning plus it makes a lot of sense,regardless of how we look at the US these ppl are successfull,there must be something they are doing right.
If you accept the above as the truth- then it can be argued that there is something beneficial about the US system - Their National team is made up of players who came through the college system, and our team catching they ass to beat them.
Now if you guys want to argue that the US college ball is not as we like it - I will accept, but to sit there and watch the successes of the US teams and players, and dog there college system is indeed stupid.
On OUR national team we have more naturally gift players than on the US team, but they have the one element that we lack home and that is discipline & passion. Being able to play the game better than most doesn't make you a champion. We can learn some lessons from the Americans.
Ponnoxx: I think you are in agreement with me. If we had a proper system in place our best players would be channeled towards the pro environment and opportunities. The US college system is not for men who really talented enough to make it to the pros. Latas turn down a scholarship to FIU because he had the ability to make it as history shows. Most men taking scholarship because that is the best option for them at the time...the best American players not going to college, they going into the pro environment in the US and Europe. John O' Brian turned a scholarship to Duke university to become an aprentice in Holland at Ajax.
US College soccer is not the place where serious ballers go if they have the ability and ambition to become top level pros.
Quote from: CK1 on March 28, 2006, 12:32:25 AM
Ponnoxx: I think you are in agreement with me. If we had a proper system in place our best players would be channeled towards the pro environment and opportunities. The US college system is not for men who really talented enough to make it to the pros. Latas turn down a scholarship to FIU because he had the ability to make it as history shows. Most men taking scholarship because that is the best option for them at the time...the best American players not going to college, they going into the pro environment in the US and Europe. John O' Brian turned a scholarship to Duke university to become an aprentice in Holland at Ajax.
US College soccer is not the place where serious ballers go if they have the ability and ambition to become top level pros.
That statement right there summerize the
OK CK1, It helps young men get a degree....However it usually spoils them as footballers... In the US college system a player plays less football than if he was home(sweating, training and so on)...Therefore he becomes less skilful
OK CK1, It helps young men get a degree....However it usually spoils them as footballers... In the US college system a player plays less football than if he was home(sweating, training and so on)...Therefore he becomes less skilful
This is one sh!t statement. I would love to know what school Ponnoxx played at for him to know that or make that statement.
I could tell you from experience that it is only after I got my football schol and went to the US to play that I saw what playing and training ALL YEAR ROUND really meant.
Fall is games. Yuh in season. late fall you in the Playoffs (hopefully). Christmas break you off for a couple weeks. As the second semester starts training starts... indoor sessions/league, running at 5 in the morning whether there is rain, snow, or serious sub-zero temperatures. Serious weight training starts. Spring you start playing outside. Weight room again. Summer you in school still and is serious training the ass't coach have you doing on your own or with teammates (due to NCAA regulations) who also stayed around. Most likely you playing in a summer league as well as preparing for your season in the weight room and running alot. Late summer is two and three a days training for Pre-season and then boom, you into the Fall season again.
What Ponnoxx really talking about?
The college system spoils our players bad. It does make players go down the drain
The college system spoils our players bad. It does make players go down the drain
You talking shit there. University of Maryland cannot beat Jabloteh.
CK1 ah understand what you saying, but Kicker if that the case where a U.S. college team can even tie or beat a T&T pro team...well i tell yuh...our system is very SUCK? .....fellas the reason why i complain so much and looking for answer about our national team at all level...is because i'm fed-up with the performance of the players attitude, their approach to the game and some of the T&T coach's technical style alway being out fox.. ....ah just fed-up losting to Mexico, central america, U.S. and Canada teams.....it's like they alway have our number...damn!!!!!!!!!
and next thing THEY DON'T RESPECT US...NO WAY NO HOW
CK1 ah understand what you saying, but Kicker if that the case where a U.S. college team can even tie or beat a T&T pro team...well i tell yuh...our system is very SUCK? .....fellas the reason why i complain so much and looking for answer about our national team at all level...is because i'm fed-up with the performance of the players attitude, their approach to the game and some of the T&T coach's technical style alway being out fox.. ....ah just fed-up losting to Mexico, central america, U.S. and Canada teams.....it's like they alway have our number...damn!!!!!!!!!
and next thing THEY DON'T RESPECT US...NO WAY NO HOW
As for the midfield general Sando, I think tallman give a very nice run down on attacking (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=21195.0) college players. We need to get some updates on the ladies and goalkeepers though. We will see how it goes.
look like at olympic side to me
I see james, smith, findley, and osi getting invited to the mls combine
I see james, smith, findley, and osi getting invited to the mls combine
Like you making the combine triniman? ;D
Kingman
I see james, smith, findley, and osi getting invited to the mls combine
Like you making the combine triniman? ;D
Kingman
but they should yuh eh think kingman if the get drafted of not is a different story
:rotfl:I see james, smith, findley, and osi getting invited to the mls combine
Like you making the combine triniman? ;D
Kingman
What in your oppinion is the best option for a Youth in Trinidad who just finish SSFL and want to make it as a professional footballer!I would say dat if yuh seriously harboring hopes of becoming a professional footballer, and dat is yuh focus, den yuh should overs de scholarship. At de end of de day, is how bad yuh want it. If yuh eh sure and yuh want tuh hedge yuh bets, den play it safe and take de scholarship, otherwise, focus on yuh ball. Yuh could go tuh school at any time in yuh life whereas de window of opportunity for an athlete is very short. To besides, tertiary education in T&T is now freeco.
What in your oppinion is the best option for a Youth in Trinidad who just finish SSFL and want to make it as a professional footballer!I would say dat if yuh seriously harboring hopes of becoming a professional footballer, and dat is yuh focus, den yuh should overs de scholarship. At de end of de day, is how bad yuh want it. If yuh eh sure and yuh want tuh hedge yuh bets, den play it safe and take de scholarship, otherwise, focus on yuh ball. Yuh could go tuh school at any time in yuh life whereas de window of opportunity for an athlete is very short. To besides, tertiary education in T&T is now freeco.
I doh have any hard evidence, but I tink most of our ballers who go on scholarships merely use football as a means to an end. Playing football professionally may enter their thoughts and it would be "nice" if it happen, but fuh de most part, dey eh relly on dat.
that is a question each individual has to honestly ask themselves and it have alot to do with your personal goals in life and what you are trying to acheive. it really depends on the person. for me i took my scholarship when i was in 6 one, i graduated by age of 21 and went back to trini after graduating. i always wanted to play professianally so i played with w connection for 2 years but because of injuries i left the pfl and came back to america to acheive some other goals. i had my degree to fall back on and it worked out pretty good for me.
to play right out of high school in the pfl is a real sacrifice, for some it may be the only opportunity, for others getting a higher education is another, either way whatever opportunity comes your way you have to weigh the pros and cons and take advantage. you never know what the future have in store.
What in your oppinion is the best option for a Youth in Trinidad who just finish SSFL and want to make it as a professional footballer!I would say dat if yuh seriously harboring hopes of becoming a professional footballer, and dat is yuh focus, den yuh should overs de scholarship. At de end of de day, is how bad yuh want it. If yuh eh sure and yuh want tuh hedge yuh bets, den play it safe and take de scholarship, otherwise, focus on yuh ball. Yuh could go tuh school at any time in yuh life whereas de window of opportunity for an athlete is very short. To besides, tertiary education in T&T is now freeco.
I doh have any hard evidence, but I tink most of our ballers who go on scholarships merely use football as a means to an end. Playing football professionally may enter their thoughts and it would be "nice" if it happen, but fuh de most part, dey eh relly on dat.
School may always be there but the schol. may not and in this day and age where tuition fees could run yuh in the 10s of thousands of US$$$ per year that is something to consider. I would lean towards taking the schol unless yuh is a real talent like Armiman say.What in your oppinion is the best option for a Youth in Trinidad who just finish SSFL and want to make it as a professional footballer!I would say dat if yuh seriously harboring hopes of becoming a professional footballer, and dat is yuh focus, den yuh should overs de scholarship. At de end of de day, is how bad yuh want it. If yuh eh sure and yuh want tuh hedge yuh bets, den play it safe and take de scholarship, otherwise, focus on yuh ball. Yuh could go tuh school at any time in yuh life whereas de window of opportunity for an athlete is very short. To besides, tertiary education in T&T is now freeco.
I doh have any hard evidence, but I tink most of our ballers who go on scholarships merely use football as a means to an end. Playing football professionally may enter their thoughts and it would be "nice" if it happen, but fuh de most part, dey eh relly on dat.
Many young players in TnT will be faced with this Delima.
aye allya is de bess yes :DMany young players in TnT will be faced with this Delima.You must be thinking of Y De lima...yuh lookin' tuh buy a ring or what?
Tallest talk some good sense dey, but it hadda be real scary to make a decision like that if the 2 opportunities arise...
U hadda be a bravestar and have reaaal confidence in yr abilities, maybe get a break or two of good luck, etc etc, eg Kjones...
But hopefully with MLS ever evolving, they could improve on the draft system for D1 Universities for soccer players feeding into MLS.
A man who take up a school scholarship and come out with a good US degree and could enter the MLS draft have some nice options either way... Cause MLS starting to produce more and more for the big name clubs in Europe and the man could also get he green card and wuk in the US since he graduated from a US school...
I know one man who wouldnt have such a dilemma in terms of choices is KND, as he have 2 left foot and could barely read and write
Palos mentioned Rahim possibly erring in his decision to player U.S. Collegiate soccer- From what I remember Rahim turned down his MLS draft spot after graduation because he was dissatisfied with the salaries. Who knows? If he ented the MLS draft at 22, he may have been able to build a solid career from there. Carlos Edwards is 28 yrs old and only now entering the premiership.....He paid his dues and his dues paid him. With a slightly different twist of fate- Rahim could have had the same story. (I'm speaking in ignorance because I don't know everything else that affected Brent's decisions)
Neither the U.S. collegiate structure, nor the PFL are gateways to "success"- but within each system I think there are ways & means for a player with the right amount of talent, drive & advice/support to do well in the professional game.
yea but if u graduate from a US university with a decent degree, and u have no contractual committments to T&T, you can very easily get a job via OPT with a US company using your student visa- 18 months.
If you dont get ketch smoking weed in the office or brushing the boss daughter, the company will then hook u up with a H visa (valid for working in the US for 3 years)....and if they pleased with you, they will most likely hook up the green card for you....
Or u could go the easy route and win the green card lottery.
I could just imagine how immigration does ben when caribbean players landing in the US and declaring that they coming to the US to play soccer...
As for the man making the jokes about felas living the MTV lifestyle. Couple things I go throw in and then I will put my name and email address for all who may want to cuss me... Brother is not a question of living a lifestyle that ketch men. It always pisses me off to hear ppl talk about "oh dem fellas doh like black gyul how them only on whitey". TRy this....when you get a schol to a place like Ohio, say Indiana etc and not necessarily a BIG School and 90% of the population, not only student population is not black, what you want guys to do? You importing girls for them? You paying for some of these guys to come home every vacation? Life hard and I say where ever you get friends, real friends, and somebody willing to love you, brother I say take it.
This is a topic whether people would have their opinions. What I think is; either u want to play professional football or go to college. If you go to college, esp, this nonsense USA college system, more than likely you would not play professionally in Europe, etc. U might be able to land something in that poor A League in the states, which is basically a Semi Pro leaguee
If a young player is good enough, he is good enough to make Trinidad's national youth team (Under 17, Under 20 etc) and he wants to play professional football in Europe, he has the desire and will to make it, HE SHOULD NOT GO THE USA and play that detrimental college thing the y call soccer. It's like drinking poison to a slow death, in football terms. He would never develop, he level would drop and by the he finishes college, even thought he would get his degree, that 4 yrs would be a waste in development.
10 or 15 yrs ago, the level of college soccer was okish. Now that level has dropped to a pulp. Now, these young guys that playin in that Under 17 World Cup, if the want to make it football professionally, like Stern, Carlos and Kerwyn Jones, that should stick it out with a pro team in Trinidad, get on some trials and with some luck thery would make it. Now if they go to the States, and play dat nonsense college thing they call soccer, they 98% of the time, lose the chance really make it on football.
That USA horse mess they call soccer is suitable for an average player, who want to get is degree and he, want to use his little talent to pay his way thru. Anybody could get a scholarship now. Men who only play small goal in Trinidad or jus sweat in minor leagues back home, gettin scholarship all over the USA. It's not a bad thing! Is jus for the real, talented player it's not good football wise
You know how much GOAT from Trinidad playing college ball in the USA? The standard is horrible. COllege soccer, suits US players and only the ones who go to the so called BIG NAMES schools. As for Stern, he dropped out from Mercer. He would tell you, he was not on the BOOKS thing. Is not what he was intended to do. It was all footballl. Had he stayed in that system, he most likely would have disappeared jus like many, many talented players. who were much better than Stern, but got trapped in the mess they called NCAA SOccer, example (Jeremey Short, David Austin, Addie Rique, Zane O'Brian, Darin Lewis,) jus to name a few.
Good, good players, who at the time they left had the tallent to make it. Kelivn Jack dropped out too. Had he continued, he woulda disappear too. He might of been coaching or he might of been workin here in the US, whiich is not a bad thing. But he would not have been able to play in a World Cup; he may not been a professional footballer today. Carlos Edwards said, he had a chance to go the college and didn't. He made the best decision ever. Look where his is today!!!!!!!!!!! Kerwyn Jones same thing. Young & talented, he could have easily gone to one ah dem colleges in de USA and he would not have been where his is today
Basically is either - COLLEGE BALL/DEGREEE or PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. U CAN'T GO DOWN THE 2 ROADS..........
This is a topic whether people would have their opinions. What I think is; either u want to play professional football or go to college. If you go to college, esp, this nonsense USA college system, more than likely you would not play professionally in Europe, etc. U might be able to land something in that poor A League in the states, which is basically a Semi Pro leaguee
If a young player is good enough, he is good enough to make Trinidad's national youth team (Under 17, Under 20 etc) and he wants to play professional football in Europe, he has the desire and will to make it, HE SHOULD NOT GO THE USA and play that detrimental college thing the y call soccer. It's like drinking poison to a slow death, in football terms. He would never develop, he level would drop and by the he finishes college, even thought he would get his degree, that 4 yrs would be a waste in development.
10 or 15 yrs ago, the level of college soccer was okish. Now that level has dropped to a pulp. Now, these young guys that playin in that Under 17 World Cup, if the want to make it football professionally, like Stern, Carlos and Kerwyn Jones, that should stick it out with a pro team in Trinidad, get on some trials and with some luck thery would make it. Now if they go to the States, and play dat nonsense college thing they call soccer, they 98% of the time, lose the chance really make it on football.
That USA horse mess they call soccer is suitable for an average player, who want to get is degree and he, want to use his little talent to pay his way thru. Anybody could get a scholarship now. Men who only play small goal in Trinidad or jus sweat in minor leagues back home, gettin scholarship all over the USA. It's not a bad thing! Is jus for the real, talented player it's not good football wise
You know how much GOAT from Trinidad playing college ball in the USA? The standard is horrible. COllege soccer, suits US players and only the ones who go to the so called BIG NAMES schools. As for Stern, he dropped out from Mercer. He would tell you, he was not on the BOOKS thing. Is not what he was intended to do. It was all footballl. Had he stayed in that system, he most likely would have disappeared jus like many, many talented players. who were much better than Stern, but got trapped in the mess they called NCAA SOccer, example (Jeremey Short, David Austin, Addie Rique, Zane O'Brian, Darin Lewis,) jus to name a few.
Good, good players, who at the time they left had the tallent to make it. Kelivn Jack dropped out too. Had he continued, he woulda disappear too. He might of been coaching or he might of been workin here in the US, whiich is not a bad thing. But he would not have been able to play in a World Cup; he may not been a professional footballer today. Carlos Edwards said, he had a chance to go the college and didn't. He made the best decision ever. Look where his is today!!!!!!!!!!! Kerwyn Jones same thing. Young & talented, he could have easily gone to one ah dem colleges in de USA and he would not have been where his is today
Basically is either - COLLEGE BALL/DEGREEE or PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. U CAN'T GO DOWN THE 2 ROADS..........
4300 seniors playing soccer.
times 3 = 12000 people playing soccer add NAIA and Junior college and you probably get to 20,000
20,000 people playing organized soccer with drive and purpose
20,000 people between the ages of 18-25 playing competitive ball.
compare that to how many people playing competitive football in Trinidad for example and you will see the benefit of college soccer to the US soccer foundation.
Not to mention coaches, assistant coaches 100% employed in soccer by the hundreds if not thousands.
To get top soccer coaches at national level it would not happen without a college system for them to work in.
Same thing for Players, Mls players constantly have to be on top of their game because there is a steady stream of players comming each year with dreams to make the squad.
Even if they do not make it, the competition forces improvement.
If Trinidad could find a way to bridge the gap after SSFL and keep youths ages 18-25 playing competitive football and have a place for coaches to have a profession in the sport it will go along way to bridging the gap with the better football nations in concacaf like the US.
One of the reasons in the past that we have some good players come through was
Continuation of playing
Schols like John D and Sando tech was a play where you could continue to play football once you leave high school.
In the past man used to get a work because they could play football.
Example Latapy and Brian william and Philbert Jones used to work and play for Trintoc
The Army always had a good teams because it was your work, and it was football most of the day.
The reason the strike squad was so good is because it was a collection of these players from these types of teams.
Football in an environment where you could also have a work
A place where you could continue to play.
This type of thing dropped off because of the proleague but the problem with the proleague it is not enough teams to fill the gap.
We lose too many players because they cannot continue to play. They have to go and work
The Govt and TTFF should take an initiative to have a system where people can continue to play. It will not be fully professional like the proleague but having an organized league where people can continue to play after SSFL will go a long way to boast our football.
Pro League
Super League
Zone Leagues
Minor Leagues ( like eddie Hart)
Company leagues
etc
If effort is put to prganize these leagues with support for the football through Govt tax breaks etc.
It will go a long long way.
Also is not like College ball don't develop men for the pros and international ball, juss look how many of the 06 warriors went to the US first.
Therefore my point is should guys who have guaranteed scholarships jeopardise the $500,000TT+ in scholarship when there is no contract guaranteed. And as stats show most won't even go on to have a career in football and play sr. ball. Even if 1 or 2 do "make it" what about all the others like Grovesnor, Clarence, Walker, Rockford, Bentick, Lougheed, De Silva, Adams etc what will be left for them. Does this also mean that guys like Knox, O'neil, Fullerton not going an have a chance if they don't leave there schools. Most will probably make more money with a University degree than what they get from football.I agree with the sticking with the degree first scene...i like the idea of guaranteed scholarships and subsequenlty the free education for fellas....
Also is not like College ball don't develop men for the pros and international ball, juss look how many of the 06 warriors went to the US first.
I hope the TTFF has taught this through and Vranes not only promisin men contract.. Any toughts?
Therefore my point is should guys who have guaranteed scholarships jeopardise the $500,000TT+ in scholarship when there is no contract guaranteed. And as stats show most won't even go on to have a career in football and play sr. ball. Even if 1 or 2 do "make it" what about all the others like Grovesnor, Clarence, Walker, Rockford, Bentick, Lougheed, De Silva, Adams etc what will be left for them. Does this also mean that guys like Knox, O'neil, Fullerton not going an have a chance if they don't leave there schools. Most will probably make more money with a University degree than what they get from football.I agree with the sticking with the degree first scene...i like the idea of guaranteed scholarships and subsequenlty the free education for fellas....
Also is not like College ball don't develop men for the pros and international ball, juss look how many of the 06 warriors went to the US first.
I hope the TTFF has taught this through and Vranes not only promisin men contract.. Any toughts?
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with the way those fellas on I-95.5 were talking, maybe the coaching at the colleges would be better than the average in the pro league....what allya think?
Shaka
Avery
Sancho
Stern
Jack
Wise
All went to US on schol.
hmmm .... look at Yohance Marshall. ;)
I would add where one goes pro ought to be an element in this discussion. Beyond that, anybody here ever been in a class with a pro player (or ex-pro) ...? Ppl tend to pursue their passions zealously regardless of their station in life, once they can. Going pro does not preclude gehhin ah different sort of education later (if dahis wha yuh want).
I am of the school of thought pushed by sub1 and others. Go pro! The priorities of collegiate soccer do not suit every player with potential to play on a higher stage. Elan, it's not solely b/c coaches are not equipped to develop those players\lack the knowledge ... part of the equation is the environment of college ball. Another facet is what is known as 'playing age' ... the opportunity cost of playing collegiate ball versus pursuing ball in a professional environment will hamper some players but work to the benefit of several others.
Players coming out of an academy environment who roll into the college ranks may only be doing so temporarily (dey eh staying fuh 4 years) to hone one or two aspects of their game ... for some it's a holding pattern in a specific environment.
Now for a lil more context. In US college ball, some VERY GOOD European players get recruited to play D-I and D-II ball (more generally D-I though) ... some of these players fly in from places like Iceland, Finland etc. ... nations not exactly heating up de scene ... several of these players may have tried to secure contracts abroad and failed ... some have actually played pro (despite the regs) ... our players opting for college should pursue college for what it is b/c dahis what de coaches expect to receive collegiate players dedicated to the program. Our HS players should decide based on realistic fit
I think it's worth it for these guys to sacrifice the years from 18 to 22 and concentrate on football. No offence to anybody, but you could always get a degree later on in life. School eh going anywhere.
A lot of countries discourage their players from attending American universities especially on the women side because of their lack of faith in the college game as a medium for future player development.
Stern John went to college!so who it is that went to mow?
Shaka Hislop went to college!
Yohance Marshall went to college!
Avery John went to college!
Julius James went to college!
Brent Sancho went to college!
Evans Wise went to college!
Scott Sealy went to college!
The NCAA rules have been changed quite a bit during the past 5 years to the point that every year a player is involved with an organized unit after high school he/she loses a year of eligibility. So in the case of a player participating in the academy system for 4 years then trying to get a scholarship beyond that it would be extremely difficult. Some schools are finding ways to beat the system by how they are encouraging these players to report such relationships but its an area in the college that the NCAA has been looking at more closely during the past 4 years. Players must now fill out additional NCAA Clearing house forms to prove their eligibility as it relates to their amateur status
As far as the women's game goes other countries have close the gap and have realized the short comings in the college game. As a result you will not see the premier youth national team players from europe, asia and south America coming to the US anymore to play at the college level. They will be encouraged to join the women's professional league though. Just two years ago one of the top youth players (Maike Seuren)from the German youth national team who was playing for Florida State at the time was asked to return home by the federation if she had plans of representing Germany in last years U-20 world cup.
As assylum seeker mentioned it's all about a year round program geared towards their overall development. There are too many NCAA rules that discourages college teams from working year round. In the same breath you can't keep a good man down so if you are good you are just that good to survive the college game and still make it professionally. But it serves its purpose it is for the student driven individuals who can play football. Get your degree and then handle your stories. I took that route many years ago and I am glad I did
Makesi Lewis is a senior? We better keep an eye on him so he don't get lost when he graduate. I pretty sure he better than Jamal Gay and they have similar attributes.
Javed Mohammed named BIG EAST Conference Defensive Player of the Week
gousfbulls.com
University of South Florida men's soccer standouts Javed Mohammed and Hasani Sinclair earned weekly honors for their efforts in helping USF to a 2-0 record last week with wins over Rhode Island (2-0) and Syracuse (4-0).
Mohammed, who was named the BIG EAST Conference Defensive Player of the Week, was a big factor in USF's two shutout wins this week over the Rams and Orange. A native of LaRomaine, Trinidad, Mohammed was a staple on a defense that allowed only 10 shots, four on goal, in the two matches. He helped the team's offense as well; notching assists on both goals in a 2-0 win over Rhode Island.
Sinclair was named to the BIG EAST weekly honor roll and to the TopDrawerSoccer.com National Team of the Week. The Miami native recorded four points on two goals against Syracuse with the first goal of the game being his first of the year. He also had four shots including two on goal against the Orange.
With his two goals against Syracuse, Sinclair moved himself into second place on the team in scoring with seven points (2g-3a) and leads the team on the year in assists with three.
USF is currently 6-2-1 (1-1-0 BIG EAST) after nine matches and have won two straight, and six of its last seven.
The Bulls head out on their second and final three-game road stretch of the regular season beginning at Florida Atlantic on Oct. 6 (7 p.m.). USF will then travel to Villanova on Oct. 9 (7 p.m.) and DePaul on Oct. 13 (4 p.m.). The match with Villanova will be played at PPL Park - home of the Philadelphia Union of Major League Soccer - and will be broadcast live in the internet at TopDrawerSoccer.com.
The Bulls will then return home on Oct. 16 when they face West Virginia (7:30 p.m.).
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Ah find a lot of our US based college players having big impacts on their respective teams this year.
Expect to see Canadian born players Tyrone Downes, Gregory Ranjitsingh and Kristian Lee-Him trial with our youth team soon. Same for Stefan Berkeley (UCONN)....
Expect to see Canadian born players Tyrone Downes, Gregory Ranjitsingh and Kristian Lee-Him trial with our youth team soon. Same for Stefan Berkeley (UCONN)....
'Nova sucks... Hoyas rule. Since he couldn't make GU, 'nova is not a bad landing spot :laugh:
Bakes, boy, you showing your true Hoyas buldog colours. Does it to do with Nova upset victory in that final 4. DC never got over that.
Bakes, boy, you showing your true Hoyas buldog colours. Does it to do with Nova upset victory in that final 4. DC never got over that.
Only a little bit... more the overall Big East rivalry.
JR you have to matter first for me to 'hate' you bro ;D
NY Giants all the way!
If these fellas just looking for an education then fine... I'm a little concerned that none of these schools have any name recognition.
West aims for success at Villanova.Angostura it is... :D
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
Less than twenty fours after returning home from international duty with the National Under 20 team, forward Kye West was on a plane destined for Philadelphia on Tuesday to begin a four-year football scholarship at Villanova University.
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.....Already in preseason training with Villanova, West will pursue studies in Sport therapy.
T&T was already two player short after midfielder Hughtun Hector did not suit up after failing to recover from an ankle blow picked up in a league game in Vietnam on the day he left for Miami, while a replacement was not found in time following Khaleem Hylands late drop out. Leston Paul had also been ruled out of the trip due to injury recovery.
Interesting, Leston Paul was ruled out of T&T vs Canada match because of an injury (or so it was reported) and a week later he was named in the Big East Weekly Honor Roll.
Nice !!! real nice...
;)
Paul makes Big East Weekly Honor Roll
By Tom Zebold (gousfbulls.com)
Leston Paul's productive season debut has landed him a spot on the Big East's weekly honor roll.
The senior midfielder posted two assists in the No. 5 USF men's soccer team's 2-1 victory over Michigan on Friday that was broadcast nationally on Fox Soccer Channel.
Paul and Mario Mesen set Brenton Griffiths up for the tying goal in the 64th minute. Paul got another assist less than a minute later when his penalty kick rocketed off Michigan keeper Adam Grinwis, which set Ben Sweat up for the go-ahead score.
The Bulls are back in action this weekend at the Hurricane Classic in Tulsa, Okla. USF faces SMU on Friday at 4 p.m. and finishes the quick road trip off with a game against Tulsa on Sunday at 8 p.m.
The Bulls' next home games are Thursday, Sept. 6 against South Carolina and Saturday, Sept. 8 against Iona. The contests are part of the USF Tournament at Corbett Soccer Stadium.
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http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&ATCLID=205682992
DAVIDSON, N.C. - Sophomore Kristian Lee-Him scored a 90th minute goal for the Mountaineers, as Appalachian State University men's soccer defeated Richmond 1-0 on the final day of the Davidson adidas Classic at Davidson's Alumni Stadium.
With the victory, Appalachian improves to 3-1-1, as the Spiders fall to 1-3-1.
The Mountaineers were threatening all match long, outshooting Richmond 21-7. Six of the Apps' shots were on goal. Sophomore Stanley Broaden put two shots on goal, while four other Apps each recorded one.
After a scoreless 89 minutes, Lee-Him got behind the backline and received a cross from sophomore Sekani Sinclair. Lee-Him fed the ball past Richmond goalkeeper Chris Grover for the game-winning goal for his first career goal.
Former Trinidad and Tobago national Under 20 trialist Michael Roopchandsingh is enjoying a good run for his new team (Slippery Rock) since joining them in August of this year.
Read More (http://www.socawarriors.net/foreign-based/foreign-based-news/college-news/11452-roopie-enjoying-life-at-slippery-rock.html).
Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2012-08-27/rule-changes-football-volleyball-soccer-field-hockey-and-water-polo
•Excessive celebration (such as rehearsed celebrations after a goal) has been added to the list of infractions that can merit a yellow card during play.
Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2012-08-27/rule-changes-football-volleyball-soccer-field-hockey-and-water-polo
Excessive celebration (such as rehearsed celebrations after a goal) has been added to the list of infractions that can merit a yellow card during play.
This is the biggest :bs: :bs: :bs: ever in sports. It is so difficult to score a goal, to not let players celebrate is :bs:
If players can do their celebration on the way back to their half it should not be a problem. Players should be a bunch of robots? The NCAA will regulate it's way to it's death.
Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2012-08-27/rule-changes-football-volleyball-soccer-field-hockey-and-water-polo
•Excessive celebration (such as rehearsed celebrations after a goal) has been added to the list of infractions that can merit a yellow card during play.
This is the biggest :bs: :bs: :bs: ever in sports. It is so difficult to score a goal, to not let players celebrate is :bs:
If players can do their celebration on the way back to their half it should not be a problem. Players should be a bunch of robots? The NCAA will regulate it's way to it's death.
You livin hea long enough to know that they see that as unsportsmanlike. "Taunting" as they are likely to label it is not an acceptable practice as it can lead to aggressive behavior, retaliation, altercations and otherwise unwelcomed behavior on the field. If they can be emotionless after a finish the NCAA would probably love that.
Source: http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2012-08-27/rule-changes-football-volleyball-soccer-field-hockey-and-water-polo
•Excessive celebration (such as rehearsed celebrations after a goal) has been added to the list of infractions that can merit a yellow card during play.
This is the biggest :bs: :bs: :bs: ever in sports. It is so difficult to score a goal, to not let players celebrate is :bs:
If players can do their celebration on the way back to their half it should not be a problem. Players should be a bunch of robots? The NCAA will regulate it's way to it's death.
You livin hea long enough to know that they see that as unsportsmanlike. "Taunting" as they are likely to label it is not an acceptable practice as it can lead to aggressive behavior, retaliation, altercations and otherwise unwelcomed behavior on the field. If they can be emotionless after a finish the NCAA would probably love that.
It might be a way of preserving the distinction between amateurism and the professional game. I suspect the Rules Committee had an actual case or two that presented problems ... when balanced against the spirit in which the game should be played.
Trinidad really following the US in everything boi. Now they thiefing people money under auspecies of a camp. I not sending my children tuh them nonsense because it eh have no guarantees and there is limited opportunies.
Kids, my advise is there are a lot of coaches in T&T with contacts to coaches here in the US, find them somehow but don't pay no money. It's really, really, sad that we come to this. I know my parents didn't have no $1k to pay nobody for me to get my scholarship......
Just for argument sake, how much people does partake in this nonsense?
Trinidad really following the US in everything boi. Now they thiefing people money under auspecies of a camp. I not sending my children tuh them nonsense because it eh have no guarantees and there is limited opportunies.
Kids, my advise is there are a lot of coaches in T&T with contacts to coaches here in the US, find them somehow but don't pay no money. It's really, really, sad that we come to this. I know my parents didn't have no $1k to pay nobody for me to get my scholarship......
Just for argument sake, how much people does partake in this nonsense?
THANK YOU
Trinidad really following the US in everything boi. Now they thiefing people money under auspecies of a camp. I not sending my children tuh them nonsense because it eh have no guarantees and there is limited opportunies.
Kids, my advise is there are a lot of coaches in T&T with contacts to coaches here in the US, find them somehow but don't pay no money. It's really, really, sad that we come to this. I know my parents didn't have no $1k to pay nobody for me to get my scholarship......
Just for argument sake, how much people does partake in this nonsense?
Trinidad really following the US in everything boi. Now they thiefing people money under auspecies of a camp. I not sending my children tuh them nonsense because it eh have no guarantees and there is limited opportunies.
Kids, my advise is there are a lot of coaches in T&T with contacts to coaches here in the US, find them somehow but don't pay no money. It's really, really, sad that we come to this. I know my parents didn't have no $1k to pay nobody for me to get my scholarship......
Just for argument sake, how much people does partake in this nonsense?
The problem with the $1,000 is that although it may be very good value for money, it is not achievable for most of the truly talented boys. History shows that the poorest environs produce the best talent (I know there are many exceptions to this rule)
I'm sure players like Russell Latapy and Jason Scotland could not have afforded to pay this fee.
However, it is designed for players who want to play football while being educated, so perhaps parents who want their child to get a scholarship will find it a good investment.
Well stated... I'm not in agreement because I'm also not in agreement with the way they do it here in the US. Parents are fooled and bamboozled into spending thousands of dollars for what, no guarantees. The way the system works is all about contacts folks. If you are good they will find you. I understand exposure and what not, but it is possible not to pay big money and still get a full ride. What's interesting is that some of the top players at the so called big clubs not paying a dime. Is the other idiots that funding the coaches lifestyle and the top players.Trinidad really following the US in everything boi. Now they thiefing people money under auspecies of a camp. I not sending my children tuh them nonsense because it eh have no guarantees and there is limited opportunies.
Kids, my advise is there are a lot of coaches in T&T with contacts to coaches here in the US, find them somehow but don't pay no money. It's really, really, sad that we come to this. I know my parents didn't have no $1k to pay nobody for me to get my scholarship......
Just for argument sake, how much people does partake in this nonsense?
Arimaman, as Elan stated, people mind set need to change a bit. Do you know what it takes for these coached to come to trinidad? These coaches are being taken care off while they are in Trini. Food, hotel, transport everything is paid for.
On the other hand kids in the States attend all kind of tournament to get seen from coaches. Is Disney Showcase, Dallas Cup, CASL, Blue Chip, etc. Parents spending lots of money to get their kids seen at these tournament from these very same coaches that are coming to Trinidad to scout our players.
Kids/ Parents are paying Hotel, fee of $130US per night minium. Big tournament yuh have to stay to play so you cant get away from the hotel fee. Further more at the big tournaments is one game a day so is three nights in a hotel. Tournament fee is $850-$1000US per team. Then coaches coaching fee still need covered, gas, hotel fee and spending money! On average a good team with serious kids that want to get seen attend at leat 3 college showcase. Do the math brother!!! Nine night hotel well over 1000 US. Don't forget parent spending money in gas/ air fair, food and all other fees accociated with attending tournaments. Do the math Arimaman!!!! Yuh talking about yuh not sending yuh child to do them kind of thing in Trini!
If you are living in the US and yuh want your kid to get seen yuh have no other choice. Your son/daughter must play for a team or club competeting at a high level. It will cost you money!!!! You is one ah them Trinis who does think everything must be free!!! Then days gone feller. What is a a $1000 TT to pay. All then boy in Trini spending that on clothes and shoes like is nothing. Allyuh Fellers is Jokers yes!!
With his U.S. links, I'm sure Sheldon Phillips will know everything these guys do.
But I do agree that there should be a register of Trinis who are overseas to ensure none fall through the gaps.
But Hart needs to get back to basics first and concentrate on building a core pool of players from those he knows overseas and those he can view regularly locally. Then he can add from the exotic.
Hart said that he wouldn't waste time on looking at players in the U.S College system. Hart should realize that we send high quality players to U.S Colleges. I believe Stern John went to a U.S.College..I am aware of a few top quality players who played for Trinidad youth and Olympic teams and went to Div1 schools and have a difficult time getting on the Pro circuit in the US because of work permit. Many of these guys never get recalled to a National team..they don't want to go back to Trinidad after they graduate ..so they get lost..they get fat ..they get married..and that's that.
Well Tallman I agree with you that these players shouldn't be the primary focus, but I also hear what Coache saying because too many times the players come up here and the Federation lose contact with these players. There needs to be a system in place where when these players come back home from holidays, be it summer or christmas, some type of formal practice game or scrimmage should be organized so they can be checked on and monitored. I know of too many stories of real good players leaving T&T and just getting lost in the shuffle and going through the motions Coache mentioned. Give these guys some hope as well.
But I do agree that there should be a register of Trinis who are overseas to ensure none fall through the gaps.
I like how Fordy provided a simple solution..what so hard about his suggestion? All these College men could come in and take a sweat during Christmas break..Hart went to College..I remember what a high quality player Gerry Vidale was..went to College and that was the end of that..Ivan Sampson..Anthony Sherwood,the list goes on.
When I went to college we had two Liberian Internationals who were given leave to go and play in the African nations Cup these guys were starting players for their country playing with world player of the year George Weah..College players are players too.
There are only so many hours in a day. As things stand, Pacho already have real wuk on he plate. Also, lehwe not forget that he's only really around on a short-term basis IN THE FIRST INSTANCE officially ...
A scouting camp etc. is a real noble signal, buh family he jes jes reach and nuff men deyah long time who shoulda been handling that end of our affairs ... For as many rough diamonds to be located on the twin rocks, we have others in the diaspora crying out for attention ... Iz long time now TTFF need a foreign liaison to deal with college-based and other players on the outside ... worse yet Tobago. Buh same way men bawling Tobago, man could be bawling Deep South or elsewhere.
Clearly the way to move fwd right now is to handle the first round of qualifying with the known/quasi-known commodities or men who easily in reach ... digging for talent could come later. Plus it eh jes whether dem men could real play, de nex assessment is whether dey could play and function within an organized set-up featuring demands. Birchall right now cyah even/ not even geh a look in and resources hadda spend towards uncertain outcomes? I eh so sure dahs where de $$$ is at right now ...
Delegation is a useful tool ...
So far, we have de T&T senior mens football team head coach not jes coachin de senior men's national team, but he should also....
develop younger players
scout US college players and make arrangements fuh dem to train in camps rong Christmas time
teach man how to trap, pass, tackle, head de ball and shoot. Also how not to run offside, positional play and goalkeeping tips. Throw ins optional
make sure coaches and players get paid on time
pick men who unavailable
develop de pro league
develop de super league
develop womens football
ensure local coaches, players from Tobago, indians, white boys, chinee, and any other minority get equal opportunity
motivate players dat doh really want to play
get money from anil Roberts and de ministry
attract corporate sponsors
protect de football from jack warner
Anyting else?
x. Psychologist, for the fellas who having a ruff time, and developing unpatriotic or starboy attitudes or even those with no attitude at all.So far, we have de T&T senior mens football team head coach not jes coachin de senior men's national team, but he should also....
develop younger players
scout US college players and make arrangements fuh dem to train in camps rong Christmas time
teach man how to trap, pass, tackle, head de ball and shoot. Also how not to run offside, positional play and goalkeeping tips. Throw ins optional
make sure coaches and players get paid on time
pick men who unavailable
develop de pro league
develop de super league
develop womens football
ensure local coaches, players from Tobago, indians, white boys, chinee, and any other minority get equal opportunity
motivate players dat doh really want to play
get money from anil Roberts and de ministry
attract corporate sponsors
protect de football from jack warner
Anyting else?
;D NICE!!
... yuh fuhgetout create healthy meal plans for de teams
Hear nah ..it ha people here in de states who could organize ting fuh de College men ..all we sayin is to take a look..nothing else..
Nathaniel Logie (QRC) to Knox College (Illinois). D-III program.
Lee-Him and Adams score for App State.
BOONE, N.C. – Appalachian State’s men’s soccer team wrapped up its regular season Saturday as the Mountaineers knocked off Davidson 2-0 on Senior Night at the Ted Mackorell Soccer Complex.
Appalachian State, winner of two straight, evened up its overall record at 7-7-3 on the year and 2-3-2 in Southern Conference play. The Wildcats fell to 6-10-1 on the year and 2-5 in league play.
The first half got off to an aggressive start, as nine fouls were called within the opening 20 minutes of play. The ninth foul proved to be the most costly for Davidson when sophomore forward Kristian Lee-Him was fouled inside the opposing box and was awarded a penalty kick in the 20th minute. Lee-Him’s penalty got Appalachian on the scoreboard when his shot hit the bottom left corner as Davidson goalkeeper Matt Pacifici went right.
For Lee-Him, his third goal of the year tied him for the team lead with senior David Dodge.
Appalachian State got its insurance goal in the 82nd minute when sophomore forward Stanley Broaden used his speed to get past Davidson’s back line, down the sideline. Broaden fed a pass back to the feet of sophomore midfielder Luke Adams, who fired a shot past Pacifici for his first goal in an Appalachian State uniform.
The Mountaineer defense continued its dominance against opponents, allowing Davidson to record five shots total and just one shot on goal.
http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22054&SPID=1797&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205721144&DB_OEM_ID=4000
West aims for success at Villanova.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
Less than twenty fours after returning home from international duty with the National Under 20 team, forward Kye West was on a plane destined for Philadelphia on Tuesday to begin a four-year football scholarship at Villanova University.
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West aims for success at Villanova.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
Less than twenty fours after returning home from international duty with the National Under 20 team, forward Kye West was on a plane destined for Philadelphia on Tuesday to begin a four-year football scholarship at Villanova University.
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With the current U20s going into action, this player crossed my thoughts ... not because he's eligible, buh because ah doh see him on Villanova's roster. What happened to him? Transferred? Done playing? What?
West aims for success at Villanova.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
Less than twenty fours after returning home from international duty with the National Under 20 team, forward Kye West was on a plane destined for Philadelphia on Tuesday to begin a four-year football scholarship at Villanova University.
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With the current U20s going into action, this player crossed my thoughts ... not because he's eligible, buh because ah doh see him on Villanova's roster. What happened to him? Transferred? Done playing? What?
Transferred to College of Charleston (http://www.cofcsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14800&ATCLID=209653703).
St. Mary’s College midfielder Ethan Shim and St. Anthony’s College midfielder/defender Andrew Rullow have signed to play with West Virginia University.Let's Go Mountaineers!!!
http://www.wvusports.com/page.cfm?story=29572
WATCH: "There are a lot of talented players in the SSFL but abroad people understand, read and play the game at a quicker level". Ex-SSFL Standout, Jordan Riley discusses life at Ottawa University Arizona
https://www.youtube.com/v/h-Ee2LwbIvg
WATCH: "There are a lot of talented players in the SSFL but abroad people understand, read and play the game at a quicker level". Ex-SSFL Standout, Jordan Riley discusses life at Ottawa University Arizona
https://www.youtube.com/v/h-Ee2LwbIvg
That ... and three other concerns are, in my view, four of the principal fundamental issues faced in our formative football, but I've consciously decided to pursue a different path rather than banging my pot in the road to bring them to repetitive recognition. Two of them are both commonly recognized and commonly ignored. One is not "us".Really hoping oui, because football could make ah good living for many of our prospects but not if they are consistently unprepared for the pace of today's international club game, stronger leagues anyways
I've come to realize that I'm better off learning from the choir rather than preaching to agnostics and atheists and those who were firmly attached to their own evangelism.
That stated, I think we are better positioned today to improve than we were previously.
I've said that for years - the pace of the game is too slow and it stood out for me watching local games v the English game at all levels. The technical ability was there for sure.
Talking about slow, did anyone see the Saprissa v Impact game last night ? Aubrey David game ? Thoughts ! I think pace is a deceptive issue when a team is able to control properly , hold formation and make accurate passes. Opposing players closed down, no panic by offensive player, just a casual knock to the open offensive support. That's technical ability. What we have a talent, what we don't have is football technical ability. What that game lacked was creativity and offensive aggression. Yet one must consider Impact seemed to play for the tie, still their goalie had to make 2 crucial saves. That's his job and he did it well. What pace did Aubrey have to display ? None, imo. He ALWAYS had support.I've said that for years - the pace of the game is too slow and it stood out for me watching local games v the English game at all levels. The technical ability was there for sure.
has our game always been slow or did it creep in, the 2001/2 warriors was us at our peek, even if the wheels fell off and I have good memories of dat team, but the rut set in from there onward, that the 06' warriors made WC was nothing short of miraculous and an underdog story for the ages, I once drew comparison between the coup and the seeming drying up of "natural" talents comparable to yorke, Latapy and such the like thereafter.
but maxg, what about speed of thought and the speed of action based on said thought, our collective game is slow, in ah local game yuh would see ah man take 5-6 touch while spinning seemingly not knowing what he going and do next similarly his teammates would be static standing next to or behind ah play within "interceptive" range with not even a thought to signal ah free channel or shift positions to open ah channel, I not talking about foot speed in isolation, we have god given learning computers in we head dat we getting less and less adept at using, seemingly with every advance in tech.... :cursing: many of our kids these day lack pure reasoning skills in most disciplines outside figuring out touch tech and social mediaTalking about slow, did anyone see the Saprissa v Impact game last night ? Aubrey David game ? Thoughts ! I think pace is a deceptive issue when a team is able to control properly , hold formation and make accurate passes. Opposing players closed down, no panic by offensive player, just a casual knock to the open offensive support. That's technical ability. What we have a talent, what we don't have is football technical ability. What that game lacked was creativity and offensive aggression. Yet one must consider Impact seemed to play for the tie, still their goalie had to make 2 crucial saves. That's his job and he did it well. What pace did Aubrey have to display ? None, imo. He ALWAYS had support.I've said that for years - the pace of the game is too slow and it stood out for me watching local games v the English game at all levels. The technical ability was there for sure.
has our game always been slow or did it creep in, the 2001/2 warriors was us at our peek, even if the wheels fell off and I have good memories of dat team, but the rut set in from there onward, that the 06' warriors made WC was nothing short of miraculous and an underdog story for the ages, I once drew comparison between the coup and the seeming drying up of "natural" talents comparable to yorke, Latapy and such the like thereafter.
Just an Opine, without further research on the many variables involved i.e. I don't live in TT, although I played bench in SSFL there. However, I played pickup, community, provincial, National as well as semipro as a coach and player in Canada. Different system. Before injury, my game didn't change, but was not suited for my QRC coach, and was well suited for my Provincial and National coaches here. So system and selection might be 2 such variables. Still I was a Natural doh not a good athlete. We have many natural and good athletes in TT, although not necessarily in the same individual. I saw many very good - above average even - players, only choosing or maybe affording to play pickup.but maxg, what about speed of thought and the speed of action based on said thought (Elite Footballers/Athletes in general), our collective game is slow, in ah local game yuh would see ah man take 5-6 touch while spinning seemingly not knowing what he going and do next similarly his teammates would be static standing next to or behind ah play within "interceptive" range with not even a thought to signal ah free channel or shift positions to open ah channel (The majority of our local professional footballers are slightly above average, in both dedication and commitment, in spite of what many want to believe, not necessarily their fault, could be systemic)), I not talking about foot speed in isolation, we have god given learning computers in we head dat we getting less and less adept at using, seemingly with every advance in tech.... :cursing: many of our kids these day lack pure reasoning skills in most disciplines outside figuring out touch tech and social media. (somewhat agree - again not entirely their fault doh(1))Talking about slow, did anyone see the Saprissa v Impact game last night ? Aubrey David game ? Thoughts ! I think pace is a deceptive issue when a team is able to control properly , hold formation and make accurate passes. Opposing players closed down, no panic by offensive player, just a casual knock to the open offensive support. That's technical ability. What we have a talent, what we don't have is football technical ability. What that game lacked was creativity and offensive aggression. Yet one must consider Impact seemed to play for the tie, still their goalie had to make 2 crucial saves. That's his job and he did it well. What pace did Aubrey have to display ? None, imo. He ALWAYS had support.I've said that for years - the pace of the game is too slow and it stood out for me watching local games v the English game at all levels. The technical ability was there for sure.
has our game always been slow or did it creep in, the 2001/2 warriors was us at our peek, even if the wheels fell off and I have good memories of dat team, but the rut set in from there onward, that the 06' warriors made WC was nothing short of miraculous and an underdog story for the ages, I once drew comparison between the coup and the seeming drying up of "natural" talents comparable to yorke, Latapy and such the like thereafter.
I here yuh on all points, I am a big believer in the power of the brain even doh I too am at best average.....uni drop out.....though mih travails dey might have been d early signs of ah recent hydrocephalus diagnosis, I however believe that "smarts" can be coached through scenario building and problem solving exercises to sharpen d connection between mind and body.....before mih body started to suffer d effects of this ting I could really move because in my mind, I could really move, so much so dat smetimes mih body would for some important moments in mih life "forget" dat ah was disabled and did some crazy shit....some of those instances quite literally saved my life......d mind is ah powerful ting truly open it and crazy amazin shit is possible for anybody...we need to open we children minds and dey bodies will follow:thumbsup: :cheers:
I've said that for years - the pace of the game is too slow and it stood out for me watching local games v the English game at all levels. The technical ability was there for sure.
has our game always been slow or did it creep in, the 2001/2 warriors was us at our peek, even if the wheels fell off and I have good memories of dat team, but the rut set in from there onward, that the 06' warriors made WC was nothing short of miraculous and an underdog story for the ages, I once drew comparison between the coup and the seeming drying up of "natural" talents comparable to yorke, Latapy and such the like thereafter.
I here yuh on all points, I am a big believer in the power of the brain even doh I too am at best average.....uni drop out.....though mih travails dey might have been d early signs of ah recent hydrocephalus diagnosis, I however believe that "smarts" can be coached through scenario building and problem solving exercises to sharpen d connection between mind and body.....before mih body started to suffer d effects of this ting I could really move because in my mind, I could really move, so much so dat smetimes mih body would for some important moments in mih life "forget" dat ah was disabled and did some crazy shit....some of those instances quite literally saved my life......d mind is ah powerful ting truly open it and crazy amazin shit is possible for anybody...we need to open we children minds and dey bodies will follow