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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Touches on June 10, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
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Latapy get all the subs wrong
I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
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I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
Abu Bakr was at fault for de first goal.. but he settle down nicely and didn't put a foot wrong ALL THINGS CONSIDERING...
I agree that Noel was doing a plenty better wuk than Yorke... but is ah hard luck we lorse by a long bullet and if somehow we did get a draw with de same brand all man jack woulda be praising we BEST BRAND all now
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I was shocked not to see Colin Samuel. I knew somebody vital was missing as a sub. Was he injured too? :'(
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
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abu bakr pull stones at the start but IMO he progressively started to find his own. dont forget this was his first game so i guess the shakeyness had to do w/ that. but for real, what the ass went on w/ samuel not getting a run??? he's a friggin freight train.im sure if he played that mexican defense would have been under some stress.anyways i guess latas have his reasons
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Kenwyn doh have a head to play forward for a team that constantly running back in defense and chasing the game. I was real cussin tonight with him giving up early on trying to win back d ball.
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
was thinking that too... would have liked him to come on for yorke... yorke was too slow and was only passing the ball back.at least hyland have some tempo to his play and would make sure the play flows foward.
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Kenwyn doh have a head to play forward for a team that constantly running back in defense and chasing the game. I was real cussin tonight with him giving up early on trying to win back d ball.
But he playing for Sunderland 2 years now
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I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
Abu Bakr was at fault for de first goal.. but he settle down nicely and didn't put a foot wrong ALL THINGS CONSIDERING...
I agree that Noel was doing a plenty better wuk than Yorke... but is ah hard luck we lorse by a long bullet and if somehow we did get a draw with de same brand all man jack woulda be praising we BEST BRAND all now
I miss the whole blasted game.
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
was thinking that too... would have liked him to come on for yorke
believe he's in Trini dealing with the death of his little brother.
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
was thinking that too... would have liked him to come on for yorke... yorke was too slow and was only passing the ball back.at least hyland have some tempo to his play and would make sure the play flows foward.
Hyland wasn't on the bench.
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Kenwyn doh have a head to play forward for a team that constantly running back in defense and chasing the game. I was real cussin tonight with him giving up early on trying to win back d ball.
But he playing for Sunderland 2 years now
I jess read that properly - twice.
:rotfl:
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
was thinking that too... would have liked him to come on for yorke
believe he's in Trini dealing with the death of his little brother.
Nah he in Mexico. Latas take 19 men. Hyland didn't make de cut to 18.
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once u seeing that yorke roast and he n get sub i does vex with that. no probs with d subs otherwise. we cant all agree on everything now can we
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"to who" get real service
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Kenwyn doh have a head to play forward for a team that constantly running back in defense and chasing the game. I was real cussin tonight with him giving up early on trying to win back d ball.
But he playing for Sunderland 2 years now
Yuh win... :rotfl:
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
Jah Gol ah looking for yuh since Saturday to shake yuh hand...
T I N TO!!!... :applause: :applause:we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
He also making mih cuss Maturana and Jack (for keeping Maturana since after Bermuda) all over again....
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"to who" get real service
lol ... real jokes tonite.
:rotfl:
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I'll say the Hislop at LB was a poor choice as Makan is just filth
Spann or Carlos should have been the LB... and the RB either of them
I also thought Thomas should have started alongside Abu Bakr
Samuel should have come on
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You know what was worse, Spann and Jorsling...trotting
Yuh now come on fresh...well put some zess in yuh step.
I woulda put on Samuel and Baptiste earlier and leave on Noel.
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Abu Bakr wasnt bad...Dog did redeem himself.
Yorke should have been subbed early 2nd half, his age really shows out there.
The subs were made at the right times, its the players that came on that played like tata. They looked good at the time...i dunno if u can fault Latas for their performance.
Oh, and Ince was boss....i could feel the breeze all the way here every time he flapping his arms in disgust lol
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Latas shoulda sub in heself...make like Clark Kent and reveal the red, white and black #10 under the clothes
Big up Ince
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I was shocked not to see Colin Samuel. I knew somebody vital was missing as a sub. Was he injured too? :'(
ent samuel on a yellow cyard? ???
latas probably didnt want to risk losin samuel for d elsalvador game ???
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Abu Bakr wasnt bad...Dog did redeem himself.
Yorke should have been subbed early 2nd half, his age really shows out there.
The subs were made at the right times, its the players that came on that played like tata. They looked good at the time...i dunno if u can fault Latas for their performance.
Horse, Clayton Ince save us from being embarassed by the pure sh!t that Dog and Abu Bakr play - whole game. Credit Ince, and the Mexicans for throwing away the chances that Dog and Abu Bakr gift them WHOLE game - all 90 mins. Them two play as though somebody force them to play - and even though that has never been and will never be Dog's mentality - he was not able to cope tonight, or Saturday.
The only person that should be allowed to talk about dem two players performance tonight is Ince.
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Surprised not to see Thomas tonight. . .also I was expecting Hyland to replace Yorke in the 2nd half.
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
he did not make the 18
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I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
Come on Touches .... Kenwyne appeared to be favoring he right hamstring since first half. Daniel had no support from the left back because he was not going forward to support him a la Edwards to Tinto. Bless Noel, he gave his all but was out of gas. We have card issues, personal issues and injuries .. Samuel score last game but was ineffective otherwise in a much easier game. This was a tough game and was always going to.... the defense was poor and Ince was spectacular .. that the way the game unfolds sometimes . We played on the road against a fitter, technically better team. No magic dust tonight
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Abu Bakr wasnt bad...Dog did redeem himself.
Yorke should have been subbed early 2nd half, his age really shows out there.
The subs were made at the right times, its the players that came on that played like tata. They looked good at the time...i dunno if u can fault Latas for their performance.
Oh, and Ince was boss
I didn't think Yorke did that bad except for a couple errant passes. He did fade out after the hour mark but he did try an ole man hustle when mex was playing keep away.
Yorke holds up play which is what we need in certain situations but not when we chasing the game. He should have come off the bench after we drew level.
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Abu Bakr wasnt bad...Dog did redeem himself.
Yorke should have been subbed early 2nd half, his age really shows out there.
The subs were made at the right times, its the players that came on that played like tata. They looked good at the time...i dunno if u can fault Latas for their performance.
Oh, and Ince was boss
I didn't think Yorke did that bad except for a couple errant passes. He did fade out after the hour mark but he did try an ole man hustle when mex was playing keep away.
Yorke holds up play which is what we need in certain situations but not when we chasing the game. He should have come off the bench after we drew level.
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
If that's so I stand corrected, but I was quoting the commentators who kept saying that.... ??? :-\
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
If that's so I stand corrected, but I was quoting the commentators who kept saying that.... ??? :-\
What sh!t de two of allyuh talking?
Dat never happen
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
If that's so I stand corrected, but I was quoting the commentators who kept saying that.... ??? :-\
The only 1-1 draw was in 2001 at QPO
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
Jah Gol ah looking for yuh since Saturday to shake yuh hand...
T I N TO!!!... :applause: :applause:we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
He also making mih cuss Maturana and Jack (for keeping Maturana since after Bermuda) all over again....
I end up standing up in the stadium yes.
I'm seeing improvement. If even in spirit of the team.
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I was surprised Hyland didn't come on .
Jah Gol ah looking for yuh since Saturday to shake yuh hand...
T I N TO!!!... :applause: :applause:we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
He also making mih cuss Maturana and Jack (for keeping Maturana since after Bermuda) all over again....
I end up standing up in the stadium yes.
I'm seeing improvement. If even in spirit of the team.
Boy doh say dat...improvement what dat will do to us with only 2 points after all this time ::)...never mind these last 2 games was against historically tough opposition and WE FIGHT DEM!!!...FIGHT DEM!!...
Jah Gol I know you (and a good many of us) suffer over the last year to see that, so u see me I am still willing to give Latapy the benefit of the doubt...I'm not totally convinced yet (e.g. why oh why yuh take off Tinto on Saturday Latas??!!....or leave on Yorke for the full 90 :banginghead: :banginghead:), but ah willing to hold mih tongue until...
But he better play some warm up games between now and August AND we better doh lose to any of these teams AT HOME....and I'm saying it now we cutting Mexico arse here....dem only have Azteca to thanks that we didn't dismantle dem tonight..
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de left side showed it ugly head again as makan hislop was clueless playing as the left back and keon daniel still refusing to play defense. tinto also left edwards gaping quite a few times as well. but hislop was the biggest lapse in our defense....imagine u playing wing back and standing around and keeping 2 players onside. then u ball watching and allow blanco to run past u to get a header at our goal. then the last 30 mins u jogging to mexican players who running at u with the ball....u roast on top of all of that! except for the nice ball daniel played into the box for Kj (im coming to him just now), daniel aint doing nothing offensively. he got a chance in the 2nd half where he dribbled the defender nicely and was on top of the 18 and looked clueless....like he was in a foreign place...instead of making an assertive move towards the goal...he eventually lost d dam ball.
Let me say this about our "big time striker" KJ! he has to be either dropped from the squad or definitely placed on d bench. he not fighting for the ball (i saw him win one ball from the mexican defenders...who by the way looked very uncomfortable when presured when ball at their feet), he walking around the field like im not moving until alyuh give me d ball on this blade of grass, he has no striker's intuition...plain and simple he is not a striker. we need to recall daryl roberts....or give someone a chance who willing to work his ass off up front...at least to provide that first line of defense.
having said all of that...i wasnt too disappointed in latas performance as coach. he rode ince tonite...that fella was d hero of d game tonite....and when he realised that mexico took their foot off the gas in the last 15 mins of the first half he switched the team from low pressure to high pressure....and it resulted in a well taken goal by hayden. i thought his subs were spot on...kj, noel and daniel. i already addressed KJ and daniel. noel had a ok game but too many times he is out of position. to the non footballer u see him running all over the field looking busy....but in reality he consistantly running cause he out of position. in fairness to him...many ah times he was covering for daniel...and he having to cover 2 spaces. i wud have liked to see colin samuel tonite...to at least run at the mexican defense. i also liked how latas didnt sit on his loins when it was 2-1 and say well let we make it respectable. he changed to a 4-4-2 and went looking for the goal...just that the players he brought didnt help his cause. abu bakr started off horribly but for a debut i thought he did pretty well...and dog finally showed his class tonite. ive said this before and i'll say it again....birchall is the heart and soul of this team...with his fight and determination. yorke needs to be taken off during the 2nd half because he is like a cone on that field for the last 30 mins of the game.
hopefully latas can find the answer before our next game cause one more loss and that's it for SA 2010! :beermug:
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de left side showed it ugly head again as makan hislop was clueless playing as the left back and keon daniel still refusing to play defense. tinto also left edwards gaping quite a few times as well. but hislop was the biggest lapse in our defense....imagine u playing wing back and standing around and keeping 2 players onside. then u ball watching and allow blanco to run past u to get a header at our goal. then the last 30 mins u jogging to mexican players who running at u with the ball....u roast on top of all of that! except for the nice ball daniel played into the box for Kj (im coming to him just now), daniel aint doing nothing offensively. he got a chance in the 2nd half where he dribbled the defender nicely and was on top of the 18 and looked clueless....like he was in a foreign place...instead of making an assertive move towards the goal...he eventually lost d dam ball.
Let me say this about our "big time striker" KJ! he has to be either dropped from the squad or definitely placed on d bench. he not fighting for the ball (i saw him win one ball from the mexican defenders...who by the way looked very uncomfortable when presured when ball at their feet), he walking around the field like im not moving until alyuh give me d ball on this blade of grass, he has no striker's intuition...plain and simple he is not a striker. we need to recall daryl roberts....or give someone a chance who willing to work his ass off up front...at least to provide that first line of defense.
having said all of that...i wasnt too disappointed in latas performance as coach. he rode ince tonite...that fella was d hero of d game tonite....and when he realised that mexico took their foot off the gas in the last 15 mins of the first half he switched the team from low pressure to high pressure....and it resulted in a well taken goal by hayden. i thought his subs were spot on...kj, noel and daniel. i already addressed KJ and daniel. noel had a ok game but too many times he is out of position. to the non footballer u see him running all over the field looking busy....but in reality he consistantly running cause he out of position. in fairness to him...many ah times he was covering for daniel...and he having to cover 2 spaces. i wud have liked to see colin samuel tonite...to at least run at the mexican defense. i also liked how latas didnt sit on his loins when it was 2-1 and say well let we make it respectable. he changed to a 4-4-2 and went looking for the goal...just that the players he brought didnt help his cause. abu bakr started off horribly but for a debut i thought he did pretty well...and dog finally showed his class tonite. ive said this before and i'll say it again....birchall is the heart and soul of this team...with his fight and determination. yorke needs to be taken off during the 2nd half because he is like a cone on that field for the last 30 mins of the game.
hopefully latas can find the answer before our next game cause one more loss and that's it for SA 2010! :beermug:
great post fordy. I agree with everything you said. Birchall showed why he needs to be on the team today(and i'm not one of his cheerleaders)- he helped in defense so much, he needs to be used as a defensive midfielder imho. Latas has 2 months now before the next game and great insights from 2 of the toughest games we might ever play, and he's done so much with barely any time before the Costa Rica game, I'm still positive he'll get them to play as they should and pick the very best team that can win matches, because the team already look so drastically improved from what it before since he's in charge.
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Yuh playing two high stakes games against two formidable teams and let meh here again how yuh getting yuh team up against Tobago United? Did KJ score against Tobago United?
Now I agree sometimes yuh have tuh boost the teams' confidence and have them do a friendly against an opposing team that is less challenging. But look nah! call up Venezuela/ take on Jamaica/ take on Panama/ but lawd Tobago United?
Break down preparation: Mental and Physical. I still think our physical conditioning is suspect. Look at the room we gave Blanco; That man looked like he was eating up all the players around him which at times were next to none. Big boy Edwards take some real beats tonight.
Bottom line our top players have to be better. Right now the intensity coming from the local based players seem to be above the foreign base players. If there is little change by the next game we could kiss the jungle in SA goodbye.
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goal highlights...
http://www.youtube.com/v/reUjiZnBkMc&hl
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Maybe what we are seeing is the inexperience of a head coach. Knowing when to change players, when to insert players who would best infuse some energy and change the tempo of the game.
Doh be fraid tuh pull Yorke off!!!!
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So once again is about who shoulda play. Somebody tell me about the performance, about playing 7000+ ft above sea level, in the past we burn by the 1/2 time whistle. Leh we talk about holding Mexico to 2 goals at their place. Let's discuss the fact that for the remainder teams will most certainly not see us as walkovers, even the USA - thanks to Russell having us looking like a team worthy of Hex participation, and leave the monday morning quarter back thing for basketball and dem other sports.
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Our defense has been shown up again . Can anybody tell me why some of these guys get called up and Brent Sancho is not? At least Sancho will give 150% NOT JUST BALL WATCH LIKE SOME...NUFF SAID.
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I cannot believe some of these players play pro ball....
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Dog is not to play for Trini again...
gimme Keyeno and someone else...bring in Julius James since playin Bakr ahead of Thomas was no scene
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Dog is not to play for Trini again...
gimme Keyeno and someone else...bring in Julius James since playin Bakr ahead of Thomas was no scene
I have too agree with you , dog days are dunn!! he's too slow too drunk and lack reflexes!
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
mexico was banned from wc 90...strike squad din play dem..we never score in mexico
all things considered this was not a bad result..is the azteca..few teams go there and win..we got a fecnt result that keeprs alive in many ways..our goal difference for one..has not been suffered greatly..
now onto the game...
in the first 30 minutes - only clayton ince (mom) and carlos edwards seemed to be in the game for trinidad..then like tinto press start on his controller and start to try thing...
I's a man respect Tinto since his days at Malick but today he get rel ratings from me..not just cause of his goal, which i must say is a very well taken goal..the best we've scored in the hex..but because of his fight..
fazeer mohammed - the man who was so maligned on this board earlier pointed it out..he din give up..he never played as if he was beaten..at the time the actual score should have been 3 or 4-0 but tinto was still taking his game to the mexicans..something we've missed from both youth and senior players in other games..namely USA..grenada in the digi...heart and soul that man play..and he deservedly got a goal..
it was through is play the rest of team started to get into the game..daniel wake up and play a dangerous ball which kenwyne really should have done better with...
duff (abu bakr) and dog start to win ballls in the back..we start to string some passes together and we started to play the game..
bakr even play the ball to daniel that set up that debacle that kenwyne couldn't get a touch to..
it's a tough game to judge latapy's tactics..bcuz it is mexico in the azteca...i agreed with spann coming on..but i thought baptiste shoulda come on instead of jorsling...and samuel for daniel...
daniel needs somebody to mentor him..he can be useful to us on the left..buh he just incomplete..
tinto eh reach as yet either eh..the mexicans proved this by shutting him down fairly easy in the second but..he will be a big player if the right club and coach pick him up and guide him...
my thoughts...
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Aguirre left with bitter taste after Tricolor win
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_aguirre_left_with&prov=goal&type=lgns)
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
If that's so I stand corrected, but I was quoting the commentators who kept saying that.... ??? :-\
The only 1-1 draw was in 2001 at QPO
I beg to differ. Trinidad has enjoyed more than one draw with Mexico. I'm pretty sure we had a draw once in Mexico. Do we have any history buffs here?
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Aguirre left with bitter taste after Tricolor win
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_aguirre_left_with&prov=goal&type=lgns)
Mexicans full of hot air. We have to fix those egos on the return leg.
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Aguirre left with bitter taste after Tricolor win
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_aguirre_left_with&prov=goal&type=lgns)
Mexicans full of hot air. We have to fix those egos on the return leg.
he is 100% spot on with those comments
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the whole article
Aguirre Left With Bitter Taste After Tricolor Win
Goal.com 4 hours, 1 minute ago
The Mexican national team finally seemed to catch a break as they beat Trinidad & Tobago at home by 2-1.
Although the performance was a dominant one Mexico was only able to win by the slightest margin. Javier Aguirre liked his team’s performance but he was still left with a bitter taste in his mouth.
“I liked the way the team won, the way they played, how they attacked and how they defended. But I did not like the result,” Aguirre said in a televised press conference.
The Mexicans only won by one goal but the margin could have been larger had they finished on their opportunities.
“The result is not a reflection on what happened inside the pitch,” admitted Aguirre. “Mexico made the plays, had the ball, and opened up the game. There was always two in green that were not being marked. The victory was not a bad one but the result sure was.”
“We were left with a bitter taste at the end,” added Aguirre.
El Tri’s performance was much better than the one they had against El Salvador. Although Mexico kept complete dominance, their errors again cost them a goal and that can’t happen again said Aguirre.
“We committed three or four errors without the ball, and one of those errors cost us a goal. We need to take care of those small details.”
Although Mexico won, they were not applauded at the end of the game. Aguirre was asked about the roaring boos that came at the end of the game.
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
Sylvestre Adame, Goal.com
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I was shocked not to see Colin Samuel. I knew somebody vital was missing as a sub. Was he injured too? :'(
ent samuel on a yellow cyard? ???
latas probably didnt want to risk losin samuel for d elsalvador game ???
Very good point Warrior queen. Daiz de only was to explain Samuel's absence
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Dog is not to play for Trini again...
gimme Keyeno and someone else...bring in Julius James since playin Bakr ahead of Thomas was no scene
I have too agree with you , dog days are dunn!! he's too slow too drunk and lack reflexes!
Wait... You's not de one who buff me up for questioning the man level only a few days ago??
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I think Latas made a lapse in judgement putting the inexperienced Abu Bakr on the field for such a big game and he shoulda put Spann on in the LB position because all their attacks started down the flanks and we needed that speed to counteract those attacks. Then Yorke again faded in the 2nd half and shoulda been substituted, so all in all the blame has to rest on the decisions made by the coach not just the players >:(
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de left side showed it ugly head again as makan hislop was clueless playing as the left back and keon daniel still refusing to play defense. tinto also left edwards gaping quite a few times as well. but hislop was the biggest lapse in our defense....imagine u playing wing back and standing around and keeping 2 players onside. then u ball watching and allow blanco to run past u to get a header at our goal. then the last 30 mins u jogging to mexican players who running at u with the ball....u roast on top of all of that! except for the nice ball daniel played into the box for Kj (im coming to him just now), daniel aint doing nothing offensively. he got a chance in the 2nd half where he dribbled the defender nicely and was on top of the 18 and looked clueless....like he was in a foreign place...instead of making an assertive move towards the goal...he eventually lost d dam ball.
Let me say this about our "big time striker" KJ! he has to be either dropped from the squad or definitely placed on d bench. he not fighting for the ball (i saw him win one ball from the mexican defenders...who by the way looked very uncomfortable when presured when ball at their feet), he walking around the field like im not moving until alyuh give me d ball on this blade of grass, he has no striker's intuition...plain and simple he is not a striker. we need to recall daryl roberts....or give someone a chance who willing to work his ass off up front...at least to provide that first line of defense.
having said all of that...i wasnt too disappointed in latas performance as coach. he rode ince tonite...that fella was d hero of d game tonite....and when he realised that mexico took their foot off the gas in the last 15 mins of the first half he switched the team from low pressure to high pressure....and it resulted in a well taken goal by hayden. i thought his subs were spot on...kj, noel and daniel. i already addressed KJ and daniel. noel had a ok game but too many times he is out of position. to the non footballer u see him running all over the field looking busy....but in reality he consistantly running cause he out of position. in fairness to him...many ah times he was covering for daniel...and he having to cover 2 spaces. i wud have liked to see colin samuel tonite...to at least run at the mexican defense. i also liked how latas didnt sit on his loins when it was 2-1 and say well let we make it respectable. he changed to a 4-4-2 and went looking for the goal...just that the players he brought didnt help his cause. abu bakr started off horribly but for a debut i thought he did pretty well...and dog finally showed his class tonite. ive said this before and i'll say it again....birchall is the heart and soul of this team...with his fight and determination. yorke needs to be taken off during the 2nd half because he is like a cone on that field for the last 30 mins of the game.
hopefully latas can find the answer before our next game cause one more loss and that's it for SA 2010! :beermug:
Like most of your post Fordy....I actually think Keon Daniel didn't have such a bad game because Hislop was so far back it was creating problems because he had too much space to mark. Now Hislop is one of my friends nephew, but jeezan ages he is too slow and it always out of position, why is he continually being selected? He is not a wing back...coaches need to get that in their head man...steups.
KJ does absolutely nothing to warrant his premiership status. When I watch Drogba play for I.C., I does see passion, heart and committment, Drogba does carry he team....KJ does nothing for us, I agree he needs to be dropped or something. He reminds me of Yorke when he played for ManU and come back playing for we, doing nothing. Drop he arse and bring something else, his committment to us is just not there.
By the way, I think Latas has to be commended for his courage to start some of those guys. He adjusted his team to the opponent. Abu Bakr did well for his debut on this level. Clearly he was nervous to begin the game but he settled down and I thought didn't do too bad.
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Aguirre said it right, there was always two unmarked green shirts. I never understand our inability to mark opponents. The team did hold up a lot better but they got to learn to play for each other. There isn't any follow up on passes at all as still the players resorted to stand and wait for the ball. I am not any natural Footballer but I feel for professional footballers these fellas play like they still in the savannah when coming to understanding tactical awareness. Even when we use to play in the Savannah man use to make they lil run off the ball on the wing and we use to look good. ;D
The players seem oblivious to basic play and running off the ball which is what I would think is something simple to get. Put yourself in spaces to help your teammate and play for each other. Obviouly this doesn't come easy to our players as team work is so appalling sometimes I am embarrassed to see the crazy ideas being implemented by them. That is why the boom kick becomes part and parcel at times.
That was the bad.
The good things I saw last night was that the guys paced themselves and didn't run into the ground, they held their own and didn't become too flustered by the occasion. You could tell that was intentional as everyone was really conserving energy last night. That was a good tactical ploy as we are known to be really feeling the thin air effect whenever we go to the azteca. I remember they having to rest players for days when they return to their clubs from the Azteca. Decent job by the technical staff. With some more time they will begin looking better.
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I find it hard to rest blame with a few individuals. Ince was MOM, Tinto was the best out field player with his 30 seconds of brillinace, which says alot for the efforts of the other players!! The team play tata !! Yeah they paly at 8000 feet above ground and it hard to beat them in Azteca .......... We were lucky cause anytime Mexico had the ball they got a shot ....... they real throw away chances, we lucky the score made us look good , cause we weren`t. Thank goodness for Tinto!
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Coaching a football team is difficult enough and coaching a National team is even more complicated. Jose Mourinho says that it takes about 6 months a put a team together, with players understanding exactly what the expectations are and to form partnerships. Now consider he is talking about working with a club team where you have the players everyday, 6 days a week. National team coaches have players on a very limited basis, two days, 4 days and if fortunate 10 days. Then they go off and fall into a different playing situation. National coaches are not in control of the players fitness levels, technical short comings etc. they rely on clubs to do the work in those departments.
Latapy needs time and unfortunately the decision to give him the post did not account for the time necessary to create change.
Already one can see a general change in the attitude of the players in how they approach the game. That being said anyone thinking that they would have observed a dramatic change in the squad's performance, simply due to the coaching change were/are seriously disillusioned. For now the best we can hope for is T&T winning the remaining home games and grabbing some points on the road. Everything else depends on the others.
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Carenage Boy the strike squad never played Mexico.
Mexico were banned from that qualifying competition from fielding overage players in the olympic tournament.
You self...it was USA and Costa Rica that went..with TT 3rd and Guatemala and El Salvador in the group.
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ppl who sayin daniel did bad is bein harsh on de fella most ah de time wen he hve de ball is two sometimes 3 mexicans around him n not one tnt player nearby tuh help him out, de left back n midfield left daniel isolated dey wasnt supportin de man, samething was happenin tuh tinto at times but he was more lucky tuh have carlos behind him de mid was not supportin dem man n dem enough
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So how come "Ole man" Blanco was all over the field, taking lash, setting up all kinda string up, leff side, right side, middle, all about....he does live in Mexico and juss fly een for the MLS games, or he still able to contribute, because he playing football at a high level regularly...oh wait, MLS is not ah jokey level, ah forget.....buh juss maybe, it's also up to the individual..
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Mad Ras...not all the time daniel he had 3-4 men on him.
What was his successful pass completion percentage? If it was "to who" he was 100%....even the 2 bess ball he played into the area were not met by the TT fwds.
What was his successfull dribble percentage?....is level jam he collect.
How much shots he take to goal?
How much times he lose the ball?
Keon Daniel had no end product yesterday.
Also Dog ent do too bad yuh know...he slow yes but he put in some saving tackles. Hislop I was vex with but
wha we go do.
Birchall was good...he get in plenty small toe and shoulder that throw orf the Mexicans...if he had only compose himself for that bullet he try...net coulda shake.
But honestly, while TT kept it respectable at 2-1, we only get Tinto chance and we coulda get bout 6 had Ince not saved the day. I wouldnt say Mexico is shit and they ent play no brand...but we could beat them again down here, they not looking as good as before.
Bring back Cyd and Avery, Run tinto on the left wing and put Carlos back as the right midfielder. We go beat people.
Oh lewwe hope and pray Stern John back heal....Stern taking we South Africa.
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Congrats to Carlos, Tinto, Chris and Ince. You all played with a lot of heart.
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ppl who sayin daniel did bad is bein harsh on de fella most ah de time wen he hve de ball is two sometimes 3 mexicans around him n not one tnt player nearby tuh help him out, de left back n midfield left daniel isolated dey wasnt supportin de man, samething was happenin tuh tinto at times but he was more lucky tuh have carlos behind him de mid was not supportin dem man n dem enough
Good point....most of the time when he attacked down the wing he had two players on him, and very little if any support.
Hislop was a killer in that defense. I remember seeing one play in particular when he was at least 5 yards behind the defensive line and kept the Mexico player onside. Luckily a combination of weak finishing and good anticipation by Ince prevented a second Mexican goal in the first half. He really had no clue what he was doing.
As for KJ, somebody mentioned that he should be dropped. I agree 100%. A bench at the minimum because I have not seen this man do anything worthwhile on the field. Little hustle, no creativity and a general lazy attitude.
The score did not reflect the game content like Aguirre said, but there are positives to take away
1. Brilliant goal by Tinto
2. Better result in years at high altitude in Azteca
3. Blatant display of players who should not play defense or are not ready at this level aka Hislop
4. Ince is a boss....both goals he could do nothing about and the score could have easily been 5 were it not for him
5. Latas...like what he is doing so far in a short time
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Bring back Cyd and Avery, Run tinto on the left wing and put Carlos back as the right midfielder. We go beat people.
I like how de right side looking as it is now. I want de coach to find a way to replicate it on de left.
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But honestly, while TT kept it respectable at 2-1, we only get Tinto chance and we coulda get bout 6 had Ince not saved the day. I wouldnt say Mexico is shit and they ent play no brand...but we could beat them again down here, they not looking as good as before.
Bring back Cyd and Avery, Run tinto on the left wing and put Carlos back as the right midfielder. We go beat people.
Oh lewwe hope and pray Stern John back heal....Stern taking we South Africa.
Mexico is definitely not as potent as in recent years....as the first half dragged on we started getting more into the game and as the defense got any pressure they seemed vulnerable. to be honest, Costa Rica and Honduras look like the most dangerous teams this rounds.
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At the end of the day, it was a battling performance from T&T and with a little luck, we would have walked away with a draw. Not a deserved draw, eh..but is football and results have nutten to do with fairness or run of play. At the end of the day, Mexico's finishing was wayward and Ince did a job...so if it wasn't for some inexperienced defending from Bakr, we could have walked away with a point. And is not every day Mexico scoring a goal like that 2nd one.
Ince: Best player for T&T. Did not appear to put a foot wrong all game and made some crucial saves. Could do nothing about the goals
Hislop: Bad start, then settled in the latter part of the first half. Faded badly in the 2nd half and was continually beat by a cross field ball and gave the right sided attacker of Mexico acres of room. To his credit he did cut out some crosses and made a couple good tackles in the box, but was beaten far too many times
Carlos: Good game overall, good fight, energy and full of running...but his distribution in the second half was borderline atrocious. Not a natural right back and a little too hesitant in his tackles.
Dog: Took some time to settle down. Played too flat with Bakr in the earlies but settled in the 2nd half. Still cannot distribute out the back (but found Keon in room a couple times in the 2nd half)
Bakr: Terrible start to the game, but he is young and inexperienced. His mistake played a big part in that 1st goal. Settled well and was decent after a shaky opening 30 minutes
Tinto: Great first half..needed to see the ball more. Great goal. Anonymous in the 2nd half. Needs to start. Future T&T game winner.
Daniel: Flashes of brilliance. Pretty decent game but after making a superb opportunity in the 2nd half, he stood up in the penalty book and had the ball taken off of him by a player he had long beaten. Faded after that.
Noel: Tireless workhorse. Touch on the ball let him down a little in the 1st half. Maybe a little bit of nerves. Will dominate many Concacaf midfields.
Yorke: Inconsistent. Very slow and methodical on the ball in the 1st half and lost the ball in good positions early on. Seemed out of the game in the 2nd, but then put in a very good shift in the last 20 minutes or so and seemed to find his legs again. Not a great overall game for the skip tho, but can't fault the effort.
Birchie: Great hustle, great heart. Kept it simple. Should have taken that ball down and had a shot right at the end. Tried it a few minutes before and ballooned it..so probably didn't have the confidence to try it again. technique let him down a ouple times when he had room to run with the ball...but we know this about Birchie and he played to his strengths. He and Trent must start every game.
KJ: Looked lethargic. Actually had one or two touches where he helped keep posession, but never seemed to put in a token hustle. To be fair, as a lone striker, he needs much better service. After one run, he held his hamstring and you could see he was jogging with a limp. Clearly injured and looked like he should have been subbed early on.
subs:
Silvio: Didn't doo too much after coming in. Nice shot that went over showed his confidence. Hard to come into a game and contribute right away in the Azteca at high altitude. Wish he was on the field for carlos' free kick in the 2nd half.
Jorsling: Actually made me miss an injured, sub-par KJ as he could not get on the ball or lost it too easily. But had running in him, and didn't get much service. Looked nervous with his touches. Fair play for the effort.
Baptiste: Didn't have enough time to do anything and at that point T&T's posession consisted almost entirely of Carlos trying to find Tinto or Jorsling with poor balls down the right.
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Mad Ras...not all the time daniel he had 3-4 men on him.
What was his successful pass completion percentage? If it was "to who" he was 100%....even the 2 bess ball he played into the area were not met by the TT fwds.
What was his successfull dribble percentage?....is level jam he collect.
How much shots he take to goal?
How much times he lose the ball?
Keon Daniel had no end product yesterday.
Also Dog ent do too bad yuh know...he slow yes but he put in some saving tackles. Hislop I was vex with but
wha we go do.
Birchall was good...he get in plenty small toe and shoulder that throw orf the Mexicans...if he had only compose himself for that bullet he try...net coulda shake.
But honestly, while TT kept it respectable at 2-1, we only get Tinto chance and we coulda get bout 6 had Ince not saved the day. I wouldnt say Mexico is shit and they ent play no brand...but we could beat them again down here, they not looking as good as before.
Bring back Cyd and Avery, Run tinto on the left wing and put Carlos back as the right midfielder. We go beat people.
Oh lewwe hope and pray Stern John back heal....Stern taking we South Africa.
whew .. finally, a man who watch the same game I see.
I dunno how people saying we ain't play bad.
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At the end of the day, it was a battling performance from T&T and with a little luck, we would have walked away with a draw. Not a deserved draw, eh..but is football and results have nutten to do with fairness or run of play. At the end of the day, Mexico's finishing was wayward and Ince did a job...so if it wasn't for some inexperienced defending from Bakr, we could have walked away with a point. And is not every day Mexico scoring a goal like that 2nd one.
Ince: Best player for T&T. Did not appear to put a foot wrong all game and made some crucial saves. Could do nothing about the goals
Hislop: Bad start, then settled in the latter part of the first half. Faded badly in the 2nd half and was continually beat by a cross field ball and gave the right sided attacker of Mexico acres of room. To his credit he did cut out some crosses and made a couple good tackles in the box, but was beaten far too many times
Carlos: Good game overall, good fight, energy and full of running...but his distribution in the second half was borderline atrocious. Not a natural right back and a little too hesitant in his tackles.
Dog: Took some time to settle down. Played too flat with Bakr in the earlies but settled in the 2nd half. Still cannot distribute out the back (but found Keon in room a couple times in the 2nd half)
Bakr: Terrible start to the game, but he is young and inexperienced. His mistake played a big part in that 1st goal. Settled well and was decent after a shaky opening 30 minutes
Tinto: Great first half..needed to see the ball more. Great goal. Anonymous in the 2nd half. Needs to start. Future T&T game winner.
Daniel: Flashes of brilliance. Pretty decent game but after making a superb opportunity in the 2nd half, he stood up in the penalty book and had the ball taken off of him by a player he had long beaten. Faded after that.
Noel: Tireless workhorse. Touch on the ball let him down a little in the 1st half. Maybe a little bit of nerves. Will dominate many Concacaf midfields.
Yorke: Inconsistent. Very slow and methodical on the ball in the 1st half and lost the ball in good positions early on. Seemed out of the game in the 2nd, but then put in a very good shift in the last 20 minutes or so and seemed to find his legs again. Not a great overall game for the skip tho, but can't fault the effort.
Birchie: Great hustle, great heart. Kept it simple. Should have taken that ball down and had a shot right at the end. Tried it a few minutes before and ballooned it..so probably didn't have the confidence to try it again. technique let him down a ouple times when he had room to run with the ball...but we know this about Birchie and he played to his strengths. He and Trent must start every game.
KJ: Looked lethargic. Actually had one or two touches where he helped keep posession, but never seemed to put in a token hustle. To be fair, as a lone striker, he needs much better service. After one run, he held his hamstring and you could see he was jogging with a limp. Clearly injured and looked like he should have been subbed early on.
subs:
Silvio: Didn't doo too much after coming in. Nice shot that went over showed his confidence. Hard to come into a game and contribute right away in the Azteca at high altitude. Wish he was on the field for carlos' free kick in the 2nd half.
Jorsling: Actually made me miss an injured, sub-par KJ as he could not get on the ball or lost it too easily. But had running in him, and didn't get much service. Looked nervous with his touches. Fair play for the effort.
Baptiste: Didn't have enough time to do anything and at that point T&T's posession consisted almost entirely of Carlos trying to find Tinto or Jorsling with poor balls down the right.
I could agree with this
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Let the cussing start ...
it really amazing that no-one yet from what i've read (apologies if i missed it in this thread) saying anything negative about Latas as coach!
Latas will make a good coach someday ... but in this current position with this team ... them fellas go make any coach head hurt. As someone said it's not easy coaching at this level and it aint easy playing at this level ... you think them fellas intentionally gone out there to do crap? Anybody whoever play the game in any kind of competition knows how hard it is ... sometimes i think some of the comments are very harsh ... this may be one of them ... ultimately is the coaches responsibility to come up with the game plan and the players to do it ... at the end of the game it's his responsibility to bear ... win or loss!
Sometimes, as a coach on the sidelines you can't see everything as some of us who have a better view on screen and benefits of replays etc.
At the end of the day, i wish the team well ... but if we can't learn to stop trying to play prettyboy football and try make at least 3 to 4 passes without giving away the ball ... we ent have no business going WC.
Imagine we playing a crucial WC qualifier and no-one get any yellow card? To me the only thing Latas bring in the last two days is a sort of pride back in them fellas ...
Saying that ... i will also offer a suggestion ... as you should never criticize without at least offering a solution ... we need an experienced coach to lead our guys ... also should be at least 2-3 years at the helm ... could be someone like Bruce Arena with Latas as assistant grooming to take over ... he consistenly had USA playing and winning in our region and most of those guys wasn't half as "skillful" as we fellas ... but at this level it ent about who push ball through man leg, round them, over they head as we like to see ... is about war on the field! Friendship after!
Hopefully, we can recover and get to 4th place and a playoff ... Best wishes to Latas and the team!
Thas my 2cents ... Go easy on the cussin eh!
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Let the cussing start ...
it really amazing that no-one yet from what i've read (apologies if i missed it in this thread) saying anything negative about Latas as coach!
Latas will make a good coach someday ... but in this current position with this team ... them fellas go make any coach head hurt. As someone said it's not easy coaching at this level and it aint easy playing at this level ... you think them fellas intentionally gone out there to do crap? Anybody whoever play the game in any kind of competition knows how hard it is ... sometimes i think some of the comments are very harsh ... this may be one of them ... ultimately is the coaches responsibility to come up with the game plan and the players to do it ... at the end of the game it's his responsibility to bear ... win or loss!
Sometimes, as a coach on the sidelines you can't see everything as some of us who have a better view on screen and benefits of replays etc.
At the end of the day, i wish the team well ... but if we can't learn to stop trying to play prettyboy football and try make at least 3 to 4 passes without giving away the ball ... we ent have no business going WC.
Imagine we playing a crucial WC qualifier and no-one get any yellow card? To me the only thing Latas bring in the last two days is a sort of pride back in them fellas ...
Saying that ... i will also offer a suggestion ... as you should never criticize without at least offering a solution ... we need an experienced coach to lead our guys ... also should be at least 2-3 years at the helm ... could be someone like Bruce Arena with Latas as assistant grooming to take over ... he consistenly had USA playing and winning in our region and most of those guys wasn't half as "skillful" as we fellas ... but at this level it ent about who push ball through man leg, round them, over they head as we like to see ... is about war on the field! Friendship after!
Hopefully, we can recover and get to 4th place and a playoff ... Best wishes to Latas and the team!
Thas my 2cents ... Go easy on the cussin eh!
Fazeer!?!!! ... is that you? .. LOL
check out the other thread, "Looking for a ride"
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nah man tsingh... no cussing from me... decent contribution
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Let the cussing start ...
it really amazing that no-one yet from what i've read (apologies if i missed it in this thread) saying anything negative about Latas as coach!
Latas will make a good coach someday ... but in this current position with this team ... them fellas go make any coach head hurt. As someone said it's not easy coaching at this level and it aint easy playing at this level ... you think them fellas intentionally gone out there to do crap? Anybody whoever play the game in any kind of competition knows how hard it is ... sometimes i think some of the comments are very harsh ... this may be one of them ... ultimately is the coaches responsibility to come up with the game plan and the players to do it ... at the end of the game it's his responsibility to bear ... win or loss!
Sometimes, as a coach on the sidelines you can't see everything as some of us who have a better view on screen and benefits of replays etc.
At the end of the day, i wish the team well ... but if we can't learn to stop trying to play prettyboy football and try make at least 3 to 4 passes without giving away the ball ... we ent have no business going WC.
Imagine we playing a crucial WC qualifier and no-one get any yellow card? To me the only thing Latas bring in the last two days is a sort of pride back in them fellas ...
Saying that ... i will also offer a suggestion ... as you should never criticize without at least offering a solution ... we need an experienced coach to lead our guys ... also should be at least 2-3 years at the helm ... could be someone like Bruce Arena with Latas as assistant grooming to take over ... he consistenly had USA playing and winning in our region and most of those guys wasn't half as "skillful" as we fellas ... but at this level it ent about who push ball through man leg, round them, over they head as we like to see ... is about war on the field! Friendship after!
Hopefully, we can recover and get to 4th place and a playoff ... Best wishes to Latas and the team!
Thas my 2cents ... Go easy on the cussin eh!
abu bakr got a yellow card in the game last night. can you explain what was wrong with latas tactics last night? i agree with what u said about the players executing the game plan on the field, so having said that, tell me what u have a probelm with in terms of latas tactics?
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I was really hopin to see Hyland get a run in these two games.
I wonder if Latas was goin to start him before he had the family tragedy to deal with.
Hyland and Roberts are two men we absolutely need in our squad 11.
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Sorry ... i was quoting from what i saw on the game summary on Soccernet.com (live scores). My apologies! Will try to give my 2cents on what my view on the tactics is in a few minutes from what limited coaching i did ...
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Abu Bakr definitely is one for the future had a solid game, early jitters but settled very well.
Tinto was a force, the lad has skills and will grow in confidence, BETTER Forward than Jones and Scotland!
Carlos Edwards had a major shit game, whole game he left his man wide and unmarked leading to attack after attack down our right side of the field, I did notice that Hislop was doing the same thing, read the Mexican coach's remarks and see what I am talking about. Carlos also gave the ball away too many times with absolutely no pressure on him..boom kick and ball back at the Mexicans' feet.
Birchall for all his hustle and bustle is nothing spectular but still needs to be on the field, saved us blushes and goals on at least 3 occasions.
Yorke is too non chalant on the ball and was stripped several times. Is good for onl;y about 25 minutes of the game should start on the bench.
Ince was magnificent!
Dog had a very decent game.
Daniel needs to know what he is going to do with the ball BEFORE it reaches his feet, too much hesitation, he is improving in my estimation, but needs to be smarter football wise. Whenever he had the ball I counted between 3 and 4 Mexican hustling him on several occasions.
Spann needs to concentrate a bit more, he flows in and out the game to frequently.
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Player Ratings: Mexico 2-1 Trinidad
Mexico scored early in each half but failed to do much of anything else positive in a 2-1 win over Trinidad. Goal.com's Joel Aceves rates the players from both sides.
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Perez – (5) El Conejo, aside from Tinto’s non-stop shot at goal, was rarely forced into action.
Rojas – (7) El Kevin showed great improvement from his previous match perhaps because he seemed to have been prohibited to cross the ball. Still, Rojas was very active constantly linking up to the attack. Kevin rounded up his display with a GOLAZO that gave Mexico a very valuable three points.
Rodriguez – (5) A regular display from Maza Rodriguez who was rarely challenged by the Trinitarians. The PSV defender did well to filter passes from the back but came close to committing two costly mistakes which fortunately for him went unpunished.
Salcido – (5) Salcido’s once dangerous runs into attack seem to be a thing of the past. The PSV defender was imprecise and benefited from a mediocre opponent.
Osorio – (5) The Stuttgart defender did not seem conformable when playing in center defense. Given T&T’s lack of scoring opportunities Osorio did not have much to worry about.
Castro – (6) Took over the defensive midfield and did an overall good job containing the Trinidadians.
Guardado – (4) Despite continuously beating his mark, failed to make the best of his chances. Allowed T&T to level the match with an awful back pass that set up Tinto.
Esquivel – (4) The Toluca midfielder proved to be too inexperienced, internationaly, to suit up for the Tricolor in a must win match at home. Esquivel was overcome by nerves and failed to show why he was one of the best players of the Claususra 09 season.
Blanco – (7) Showed his leadership skills with a very good work ethic. Blanco proved he still has what it takes to play a full 90 and was Mexico’s most consistent player. Failed to cap his performance with a goal but did well to fuel the Tricolor’s lackluster attack.
Castillo – (6) Set up Franco with a nice through pass to open the scoring. Unfortunately, a 35th minute injury forced Nery to abandon the field. A shame as he was beginning to look like he had regained his form.
Franco – (6) Scored on his first attempt at goal and then fizzled out. Guille, aside from one good pass to Blanco, spent too much time flopping on the ground. Proved why he is no longer needed at Villarreal.
Sabah – (4) The top Mexican scorer in the Clausura 09 season proved to be the worst striker in the Tricolor. Sabah, along with Ince, turned what should have been a lopsided score into a close match. This was Sabah’s moment to shine and he failed to live up to expectations.
Medina – (6) The speedy midfielder replaced Esquivel early in the second half giving Mexico a much needed boost in attack. El Venado seemed to ball-hog at times but was given very little option as Mexico’s attack was poor, could have done a better job shooting at goal.
Giovani – (5) Gio had one good shot at goal and then that was it. Perhaps, twenty minutes in the field were not enough for him to get into rhythm.
TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
Ince – (8) Kept T&T from being ran to the ground with two key saves against Nery and Franco and then denied Blanco a much-deserved goal allowing the Soca Warriors to level the match. In the second-half Ince rose to the occasion with two more brilliant saves against Blanco and Giovani.
Abu – (4) Abu allowed the nervous Esquivel to go by him on at least three occasions and was later forced to run circles by second-half sub Medina. Abu received the only yellow card of the match; ruining what could have been T&T’s most clean game ever at the Azteca stadium.
Andrews – (5) Was burned early in the match by Nery’s no-look pass to Franco. Still, Andrews managed to hold down a very shaky defensive line that would have crumbled to pieces had it not been for an on-fire Ince and a very inaccurate Mexican offense.
Hislop – (5) Had a difficult time with Franco and Sabah, benefiting the most from their inaccuracy, but did not allow the Tricolor strikers to take better aim.
Birchall – (5) Defended to the best of his abilities and still managed to join the attack on a few occasions including a memorable shot straight to the Azteca stadium rafters.
Tinto – (6) The always lurking Tinto took advantage of Guardado’s terrible back pass to level the match.
Daniel – (5) Failed to take command in the middle of the field.
Jones – (5) Far from his usual strong self; a better performance by Jones could have helped Trinidad pull out historic draw.
Noel – (4) Failed to contain Guardado who was not even having a good game. Coach Latappy could have easily replaced him with an orange practice cone and it would have not made much difference.
Yorke – (4) The former Manchester United striker is now a shadow of the player he once was. The time has come for “the smiling assassin” to hang up his boots.
Edwards – (4) Seemed to lack faith in himself and was not as dangerous with the ball as he should have been.
Jorsling – (5) Virtually nonexistent in more than half-hour of action.
Spann – (5) Replaced Noel in the 71st minute and did a better job. Gave the Tricolor a few fits with his scrappy field play.
Baptiste – (5) Was non-factor in final 12 minutes as Mexico held the ball for most of that time.
I can't help but partially agree with the yorke comment.
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From reading some of these posts on different threads, I'm getting the impression that some people expected us to go in the Azteca and match Mexico stride for stride in a balanced game...If that was anything near to your expectation yuh need to come out of that hole yuh living in, learn yuh history and introduce yuhself to reality.
This game always going to be one of long periods of backs & forwards, with T&T getting carved up a few times and Ince coming to the rescue. We were the road team playing in one of the most difficult stadia to play in- Fuhget the ole talk about Mexico being a wounded squad- they are still a technically superior team to us, and add the high altitude, the must win pressure for them, and the home crowd behind them..... and the manner of the game was self-fulfling...
That said overall we did a decent job- the defense held some shape, the midfield was able to string the ball around at times, we scored a brilliant goal, and other than the 2 goals conceded, we limited most of Mexico's chances to half chances with the exception of 2 break aways...Some naive defending in the first minute put us in a tough hole and we reacted way way way beyond my expectation.
I'd like to see Hyland start to play a consistent role in the team- Also would like to see D. Roberts added to the set up. I think they bring good energy and individual creativity.
Birchall to me must be on the field as much as possible.
Yorke even in his old age brings a nice level of composure- I'd like to see him become a marginal player, but for now I still think his influence is very valuable.
Stern's quality up front was missing as well- KJ looked to be carrying a knock or a strain...
Tinto did a good job- he's still raw and lacks experience- but his energy is admirable (notice too how he drops deep to defend, and defends with tenacity- boy looks like a player who is hungry to mantain his spot in in the team), and he took his chance like a veteran striker- wow...you would never guess that he was a newby in the Azteca the way he finished with authority on the stroke of half time.
C. Edwards is a franchise player for us, but at RB I still think he's working out his own positional kinks...him & Tinto down the right wing though is a promising Combo.
K. Daniel finally stepped up yesterday and added a direct element to his game- I still think his approach could rise a notch in terms of energy and purpose, but it was good to see him do something other than stop on the ball stroll and then spin & spin & spin aimlessly.
We need to figure out the left back situation.
All in all, I think this team can make a run for it down the stretch...A loss in Mexico & the U.S. could be chalked in before the campaign even starts- A tie in El Salvador is par for the course... so in reality it's 4 of the missed points so far that we need to recover...while getting some wins at home- difficult but not impossible
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Apart from Ince, Noel had the most consistent performance. The best dispossessions of Mexican players came through noel. At one point I was looking in amazement at how he forced the Mexican attack to go all the way back up to midfield after being on the edge of the box. Daniel to me had a decent game and did make a few appearances in the defensive third of the field. Birchall did exactly what we've come to expect from him and worked well to help the defense. Carlos was beaten on his Flank a few times and showed that he isn't quite good enough for the RB task. Hislop was awful to me. Bakr grew more confident and steady as the game progressed and Dog was fairly decent tonight. KJ seemed injured to me as he usually puts pressure on defenders trying to knock the ball around. Tinto was good but benefited from Mexican defenders bungling the ball. Can't take anything away from the goal though. That was superb.
The scoreline looks far more credible than we deserve really. I agree with Aguirre that it should have been 5-1. If that kakahole say one negative word about Ince he should truly be banned. One thing many here seem to have overlooked is our inability to pass and maintain possession. Me and my friends started watching and counting how many passes our boys could string together and from the point we started TnT never strung more than 3 passes together. Mexico on the other hand at one pont had about 17 passes strung together on a possesion before finally resulting in a positive offensive attempt. Latapy is learning his craft as he goes along so I expect improvement. I felt like he didn't use the right subs when necessary. one KJ got his knock it was time to brin Kerry on imo. Yorke should have been the one removed for Spann and Samuel should have come on for Daniel.
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All I have to say is...
Even though we really didn't play well, and we truly deserved 5 or 6 goals, IMO even our "classic" team of '05-'06 did not do as well overall as these guys did in Mexico, and the squad yesterday was a really young and makeshift squad. If I am not mistaken, that game in '05 was one of the worst Warrior performances I've ever seen, right next to the Guatemala game of that same campaign and the last two games played away at USA. But yesterday, if it wasn't for that early goal (which was wholly caused by the freshness of Bakr), we might have pulled off a historic result in Azteca, which is globally recognized as one of the toughest stadiums to play in. The Warriors are improving rapidly, and Coach Latapy is getting it right with the young players where Mats was getting it wrong, and I feel fortunate to see many stars in the making. Mark my words: if things continue to improve, Tinto, Hyland, Daniel, Birchall, Noel, and Edwards (and maybe Whitley, if he can get his head straight) will comprise the most feared middle third in CONCACAF by the time 2014 qualifiers come around (if only the defense could get it straight....).
Although I have almost accepted the fact that we will probably not see the Warriors in South Africa, I am looking forward to the near future where we will return to our rightful place as Caribbean Champions, we will be a favorite to win Gold Cup 2011, and where we will also be a favorite to go Brazil 2014, as long as Jack doesn't mess it up for everyone again. Only time will tell.
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All I have to say is...
Even though we really didn't play well, and we truly deserved 5 or 6 goals, IMO even our "classic" team of '05-'06 did not do as well overall as these guys did in Mexico, and the squad yesterday was a really young and makeshift squad. If I am not mistaken, that game in '05 was one of the worst Warrior performances I've ever seen, right next to the Guatemala game of that same campaign and the last two games played away at USA. But yesterday, if it wasn't for that early goal (which was wholly caused by the freshness of Bakr), we might have pulled off a historic result in Azteca, which is globally recognized as one of the toughest stadiums to play in. The Warriors are improving rapidly, and Coach Latapy is getting it right with the young players where Mats was getting it wrong, and I feel fortunate to see many stars in the making. Mark my words: if things continue to improve, Tinto, Hyland, Daniel, Birchall, Noel, and Edwards (and maybe Whitley, if he can get his head straight) will comprise the most feared middle third in CONCACAF by the time 2014 qualifiers come around (if only the defense could get it straight....).
Although I have almost accepted the fact that we will probably not see the Warriors in South Africa, I am looking forward to the near future where we will return to our rightful place as Caribbean Champions, we will be a favorite to win Gold Cup 2011, and where we will also be a favorite to go Brazil 2014, as long as Jack doesn't mess it up for everyone again. Only time will tell.
So you want players in their mid 30's to again be in key positions? Noel (will be 36/37) is my boy but I would hope by 2014 there is a younger, fresher and better option. Guerra should be fully ready by then so I would gladly want him instead of Whitley by then. Carlos (will be 35/36) might still have some pace to run down the flank but Tinto is the future for us there. If anything and we have no true RB that ready yet maybe Carlos will be good for us there.
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Latapy get all the subs wrong
I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
I was wondering the same thing...what happened to Colin Samuel. He should have been on in the second half for Tinto, he is more skillfull,stronger and more experienced.
Clayton was by far the best TnT player on the day.
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All I have to say is...
Even though we really didn't play well, and we truly deserved 5 or 6 goals, IMO even our "classic" team of '05-'06 did not do as well overall as these guys did in Mexico, and the squad yesterday was a really young and makeshift squad. If I am not mistaken, that game in '05 was one of the worst Warrior performances I've ever seen, right next to the Guatemala game of that same campaign and the last two games played away at USA. But yesterday, if it wasn't for that early goal (which was wholly caused by the freshness of Bakr), we might have pulled off a historic result in Azteca, which is globally recognized as one of the toughest stadiums to play in. The Warriors are improving rapidly, and Coach Latapy is getting it right with the young players where Mats was getting it wrong, and I feel fortunate to see many stars in the making. Mark my words: if things continue to improve, Tinto, Hyland, Daniel, Birchall, Noel, and Edwards (and maybe Whitley, if he can get his head straight) will comprise the most feared middle third in CONCACAF by the time 2014 qualifiers come around (if only the defense could get it straight....).
Although I have almost accepted the fact that we will probably not see the Warriors in South Africa, I am looking forward to the near future where we will return to our rightful place as Caribbean Champions, we will be a favorite to win Gold Cup 2011, and where we will also be a favorite to go Brazil 2014, as long as Jack doesn't mess it up for everyone again. Only time will tell.
So you want players in their mid 30's to again be in key positions? Noel (will be 36/37) is my boy but I would hope by 2014 there is a younger, fresher and better option. Guerra should be fully ready by then so I would gladly want him instead of Whitley by then. Carlos (will be 35/36) might still have some pace to run down the flank but Tinto is the future for us there. If anything and we have no true RB that ready yet maybe Carlos will be good for us there.
You're right Killa, I definitely forgot how old Noel is...Whitley will probably be around that same age too, now that I think about it. Only reason I called Whitley's name is b/c of his aggressiveness and leadership on the field- he doesn't shirk responsibility when it's needed, and he definitely doesn't take sh*t from anyone. As for Los- I agree, by that time he might be a permanent fixture @ right back, but who knows what can happen or who else may emerge? Only time will tell...
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Apart from Ince, Noel had the most consistent performance. The best dispossessions of Mexican players came through noel. At one point I was looking in amazement at how he forced the Mexican attack to go all the way back up to midfield after being on the edge of the box. Daniel to me had a decent game and did make a few appearances in the defensive third of the field. Birchall did exactly what we've come to expect from him and worked well to help the defense. Carlos was beaten on his Flank a few times and showed that he isn't quite good enough for the RB task. Hislop was awful to me. Bakr grew more confident and steady as the game progressed and Dog was fairly decent tonight. KJ seemed injured to me as he usually puts pressure on defenders trying to knock the ball around. Tinto was good but benefited from Mexican defenders bungling the ball. Can't take anything away from the goal though. That was superb.
The scoreline looks far more credible than we deserve really. I agree with Aguirre that it should have been 5-1. If that kakahole say one negative word about Ince he should truly be banned. One thing many here seem to have overlooked is our inability to pass and maintain possession. Me and my friends started watching and counting how many passes our boys could string together and from the point we started TnT never strung more than 3 passes together. Mexico on the other hand at one pont had about 17 passes strung together on a possesion before finally resulting in a positive offensive attempt. Latapy is learning his craft as he goes along so I expect improvement. I felt like he didn't use the right subs when necessary. one KJ got his knock it was time to brin Kerry on imo. Yorke should have been the one removed for Spann and Samuel should have come on for Daniel.
in the practice matches on PS3, it only take a few seconds to string some passes and move upfield. next time.
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You're right Killa, I definitely forgot how old Noel is...Whitley will probably be around that same age too, now that I think about it. Only reason I called Whitley's name is b/c of his aggressiveness and leadership on the field- he doesn't shirk responsibility when it's needed, and he definitely doesn't take sh*t from anyone. As for Los- I agree, by that time he might be a permanent fixture @ right back, but who knows what can happen or who else may emerge? Only time will tell...
Well I think Guerra can be the same as Whitley but he does take the bolded a little over the edge.
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we never score in the Azteca till now!!....
I may be wrong, but I think de strike squad had a draw in Mexico. Sumting like 1-1.
The strike squad didnt play mxico, Mexico was banned from all compititions them times for playing over aged players in ah youth tournament.
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I agree with Kicker. Are we suprised we loss or that outfield players performances were ranging between average to poor. I doh like watching T&T-Mexico games played in Mexico. Simply because I always have a fair idea what the result will be before it even start. My main concern was how well we matched-up after the Costa Rica game, I was dissapponted because we lived up to my expectations, I was hoping fuh better, more confidence. This performance reminded me why the big three in CONCACAF expect to beat us, and rightly so as they usually do. Our defencies are pretty obivious and have been for many years...Bennie noticed them pretty quickly and altered our style of play to a format he was happier with. I have no opinion on how Lata's team should play but I do think he has more confidence in the ability and game mentality of our players than I do.
I guess we should put this result in perspective, normally when we go Mexico, we does get overrun and collect 3+....this time we get overrun and only loss by ah goal....we even score :o . There are lots of ways to view this result; Chance lost as this Mexico team is crap but we also lucky as it woulda been serious licks if they weren't, We jus lucky that Ince was on song, We not as good as we hoped, Lata's is/isn't doing a good enough job etc. Regardless, my main view is.....we loss, the points gap has widened and that means the dream of SA 2010 is getting less and less likely.
I will support T&T to the end though win lose or draw. I actually want Lata's to see the campaign through regardless.
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I would love to see this team play. ;D
INCE
ABU HISLOP
EDWARDS AVERY
BIRCHALL
PELTIER HYLAND
TINTO DANIEL
GLENN
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I would love to see this team play. ;D
INCE
ABU HISLOP
EDWARDS AVERY
BIRCHALL
PELTIER HYLAND
TINTO DANIEL
GLENN
Think about it...dat is a good team for the future.
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Coaching a football team is difficult enough and coaching a National team is even more complicated. Jose Mourinho says that it takes about 6 months a put a team together, with players understanding exactly what the expectations are and to form partnerships. Now consider he is talking about working with a club team where you have the players everyday, 6 days a week. National team coaches have players on a very limited basis, two days, 4 days and if fortunate 10 days. Then they go off and fall into a different playing situation. National coaches are not in control of the players fitness levels, technical short comings etc. they rely on clubs to do the work in those departments.
Latapy needs time and unfortunately the decision to give him the post did not account for the time necessary to create change.
Already one can see a general change in the attitude of the players in how they approach the game. That being said anyone thinking that they would have observed a dramatic change in the squad's performance, simply due to the coaching change were/are seriously disillusioned. For now the best we can hope for is T&T winning the remaining home games and grabbing some points on the road. Everything else depends on the others.
Dis is balanced commentary.
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Allyuh doh forget Ron La Forest scored in Mexico to it was an Olympic qualifier
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Aguirre left with bitter taste after Tricolor win
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_aguirre_left_with&prov=goal&type=lgns)
Mexicans full of hot air. We have to fix those egos on the return leg.
he is 100% spot on with those comments
Yep. I din need him to tell me dey had 2 free men in de middle of the park despite not being particularly dynamic through the middle. That observation was made in a post during the game.
It was a concern that was not addressed. The concession of space was designed with specific tactics in mind, but how effective is it when you concede space 10, 15, 20 yards outside the arc, have 2 green shirts operating numbers-up, and a possible 3rd trailing the play to unbalance .... all while the defensive unit is completely dedicated to tracking the ball rather than being at leat partially attentive to the numbers-up players. In this respect, we appeared naive.
Another observation is one we've heard before, but not much following last night ... at what point do we recognize that the whistle has blown and that consequences flow right from the first whistle? Consider when both Mexican goals occurred.
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Aguirre left with bitter taste after Tricolor win
“The people might be disappointed, but the players are even more disappointed. It’s killing them inside because they know we could have won by a greater score,” Aguirre expressed.
Aguirre finished by agreeing with the Mexican fans, saying again that the result should have been greater.
“This game was for a 5-1 score, and I hope that the Trinidadian press doesn’t misinterpret that. It should have been a bulk result and the fans are right to be mad.”
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_aguirre_left_with&prov=goal&type=lgns)
Mexicans full of hot air. We have to fix those egos on the return leg.
he is 100% spot on with those comments
Yep. I din need him to tell me dey had 2 free men in de middle of the park despite not being particularly dynamic through the middle. That observation was made in a post during the game.
It was a concern that was not addressed. The concession of space was designed with specific tactics in mind, but how effective is it when you concede space 10, 15, 20 yards outside the arc, have 2 green shirts operating numbers-up, and a possible 3rd trailing the play to unbalance .... all while the defensive unit is completely dedicated to tracking the ball rather than being at leat partially attentive to the numbers-up players. In this respect, we appeared naive.
Another observation is one we've heard before, but not much following last night ... at what point do we recognize that the whistle has blown and that consequences flow right from the first whistle? Consider when both Mexican goals occurred.
good assement. our defence chooses to ball watch rather than focus on the players around them
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I hope you guys realize this is the first time that we were actually in the game at the 90th minute. Kudos to the squad for the effort. We showed heart tonight, but in reality, Mexico was technically far superior. This was always going to be an uphill struggle.
Shocked that Daniel actually has the pace and drive to get past his man. Welcome to international football!
If he just develops his understanding of the game and physical fitness, the sky is the limit for him. Latas should take him and Tinto on as his pet projects.
Our best option going forward is passing it to either of the wingers and just letting them dribble at the defense. We have to cut out trying to pass it around, we don't have the quality for that. We should just be more direct.
Surprised you all like Noel so much. Terrific work ethic but useless on the ball. He almost always loses it and puts us under pressure.
Carlos needs to play higher up.
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Latapy get all the subs wrong
I was happy he take orf Kenwyn...but Jorsling touch the ball twice in 40 min and lorse them both.
Spann get a lucky shot orf and lorse every ball after. Waste of a sub...shoulda never take off Noel.
Keon Daniel play two good ball into the area but other than that the amount of jam he collect they could start calling he smuckers. He also was passing the ball to he best friend "to who"
Trent Noel had a good game, but he lapse lil bit for the 2nd goal...but his workrate was good and he was closing space.
Whappen to Colin Samuel?....you score the game before and get no sweat.
ABu Bakr too shakey for my liking, Dog kinda redeem heself.
and if Bajanscout say anything bout Ince....ban he c**t from this website.
Ince was MOM
Was this "The Touches Match Report" because it look like about the same effort Latas put forth with his Subs.
As per you of course.
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Edwards didn't neglect his defensive duties against Mexico but it came at a price of him getting forward. We have players that can play upfront but limited on defensive ones. Mexico has alot of defensive options but lack a good man upfront like Borgetti(A natural goal scorer).
I was not impressed with Jones, he didn't do any defensive work in midfield and allowed Mexican defenders to walk out of their half unchallenged. That was depressing. Tinto, Ince, Birchall, Noel, Dog, Edwards all had good games and saved alot of face for the away team. I still think Mc Farlane is the man for us upfront. That Spann shot was suppose to go in and Birchall should of done better on the volley, he had all the time in the world.
Mexico scored a lucky second goal otherwise game was going to be a draw.
I was proud of the performance. At first it looked grim, scoring in the first minute? TNT didn't settle at all and Mexico was off to a flying start. It was clear our aim was a defensive one for this game because Latas knew Mexico would come at us.
Like before all we were missing was luck to get us the results we wanted. We are heading in a positive direction. We are not picking up points but alteast we are entertaining to watch once again.
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After this Preparation for S/A the bulk of the team will have to come from the under20's. I am convinced that Maturana was preparing a team for Brazil not S/A. Latapy must scot talent in the local leagues and college ballers in the UsA. Please let us thank those who took us to Germany and ask them to hang up their International boots.
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felt sorry for clayton ince . the entire team played like crap
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Sorry Fordy for taking so long ... but since you asked ...
Given the situation ... i would have taken/tried the safe strategy and gone for a draw 0-0, i maybe would have tried to stay ultra defensive (everybody behind the ball) ... i know not good for the fans or players but ... it's the result i looking at. Although (and to be honest i saw a little of the game on the net), Latas did look like he set the team up that way by holding just inside the 1/2 (from what little i saw) ... (i'd probably would have held on the line of the last 1/3, i did notice that guys was still trying to get forward, but when they did they end up exposing the spaces behind them. I woulda gone with trying to frustrate them and hoof it forward every chance i get ... with that said ... probably wouldn't ah worked ... pressure does buss pipe they say ...
Also, i must say that i may have also been anxious seeing that mexico going thru their fair share of ups and downs at the moment and look like they could get beat easier than mexican teams of old.
My concern is that at this stage results/points matter ... i remember playing for saints and we playing good ball and still getting licks ... at the end of the day all everyone really remember and count is the score. we really need a man who you can count on to score ... not hoping one of the guys come through.
Maybe that's the strategy (draw) Latas went for but it aint work. But to me them fellas need to think more defensive ... i personally find defending easier than attacking ... if i remember correctly and if you are the right "ford" ... you used to defend right? So you know what ah trying to say!
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I would love to see this team play. ;D
INCE
ABU HISLOP
EDWARDS AVERY
BIRCHALL
PELTIER HYLAND
TINTO DANIEL
GLENN
Think about it...dat is a good team for the future.
How far into the future allyuh talking about? Tell me one good thing allyuh see in Makan Hislop to rate him one for the future? There is absolutely no way he is better than Julius James...absolutely no fricken way.... The man go be ready in about 10 more guava seasons....steups.....
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I'd like to see Hyland start to play a consistent role in the team- Also would like to see D. Roberts added to the set up. I think they bring good energy and individual creativity.
Yorke even in his old age brings a nice level of composure- I'd like to see him become a marginal player, but for now I still think his influence is very valuable.
Stern's quality up front was missing as well
Liked what you said here, men calling for the skipper head, i think we still need him to help with that back four and the midfield, settle them fellas down or else is even more boom kick ball coming out. Think he should he run back and take it off them fellas as much as possible. Literally run up to them defenders and take that ball. I prefer it on his foot than Hislop, Dog etc. hopefully we get more movement around him, man old but not many other options.
If you going lone striker target man, it has to be Stern. Only man that could maybe handle that better is actually Dwight yes. Being a lone striker real hard but when you add in a bad 1st touch to the equation is mission impossible after that. If Kj injured then ride the bench.
I always liked Hyland , now i will add Tinto hoping he continue to develop. he seem confident in his ability.
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We need to hear from Latapy. . .what are his thoughts on the team's performance
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Let the cussing start ...
it really amazing that no-one yet from what i've read (apologies if i missed it in this thread) saying anything negative about Latas as coach!
Latas will make a good coach someday ... but in this current position with this team ... them fellas go make any coach head hurt. As someone said it's not easy coaching at this level and it aint easy playing at this level ... you think them fellas intentionally gone out there to do crap? Anybody whoever play the game in any kind of competition knows how hard it is ... sometimes i think some of the comments are very harsh ... this may be one of them ... ultimately is the coaches responsibility to come up with the game plan and the players to do it ... at the end of the game it's his responsibility to bear ... win or loss!
Sometimes, as a coach on the sidelines you can't see everything as some of us who have a better view on screen and benefits of replays etc.
At the end of the day, i wish the team well ... but if we can't learn to stop trying to play prettyboy football and try make at least 3 to 4 passes without giving away the ball ... we ent have no business going WC.
Imagine we playing a crucial WC qualifier and no-one get any yellow card? To me the only thing Latas bring in the last two days is a sort of pride back in them fellas ...
Saying that ... i will also offer a suggestion ... as you should never criticize without at least offering a solution ... we need an experienced coach to lead our guys ... also should be at least 2-3 years at the helm ... could be someone like Bruce Arena with Latas as assistant grooming to take over ... he consistenly had USA playing and winning in our region and most of those guys wasn't half as "skillful" as we fellas ... but at this level it ent about who push ball through man leg, round them, over they head as we like to see ... is about war on the field! Friendship after!
Hopefully, we can recover and get to 4th place and a playoff ... Best wishes to Latas and the team!
Thas my 2cents ... Go easy on the cussin eh!
abu bakr got a yellow card in the game last night. can you explain what was wrong with latas tactics last night? i agree with what u said about the players executing the game plan on the field, so having said that, tell me what u have a probelm with in terms of latas tactics?
Fordy there was a lot wrong with Latas tactic and sub decisions, but it's Latas and no one want to be singled out for criticizing Latas. If was Maturana or Wim who employ them tactics and mad ethose subs in the timing it was made the board would have been in uproar. Since is Latapy he could do whatever and he will get a bligh.
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Fantastic game T&T and of course Kudos to the coach. This is very esalily the best result we have had at the azteca and probaly one of the better if not the best performance. I will single out the performance of Hislop and Bakr. Hislop becz I thought he was a lost cause and Bakr for rebounding so well after the earlier lapse in his first game at the azteca. although mexico dominated this was par the course. I shudder to think of the result had Maturana been in charge. We will qualify and the team will continue to grow into a respectable unit under Latapy. We dont need Arena as some fool suggested or anyone else for that matter at this point in time. I wonder if Beenie ever took us to mexico and if so what was the result? How did we look? Could we have gotten more?
Latapy will bring it home!!!
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The SW not ready for SA nuh! Dem guys really doh want this like how de country want it. Especially dem men who does stand up and watch ball passing right in front dey eye and not going after it or fraid to tackle men because they would ruin dey pedicure. Kenweyne has not showed up for none of these games thus far and probably needs to be benched for a whyile and let people who willing to fight for the ball and score at all cost take de pitch. and doh talk about de defenders. ah feel dey left dem in T'dad for the last 2 games especially. I aint see none on de pitch last night.
ah fed up yes!
Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
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Fantastic game T&T and of course Kudos to the coach. This is very esalily the best result we have had at the azteca and probaly one of the better if not the best performance. I will single out the performance of Hislop and Bakr. Hislop becz I thought he was a lost cause and Bakr for rebounding so well after the earlier lapse in his first game at the azteca. although mexico dominated this was par the course. I shudder to think of the result had Maturana been in charge. We will qualify and the team will continue to grow into a respectable unit under Latapy. We dont need Arena as some fool suggested or anyone else for that matter at this point in time. I wonder if Beenie ever took us to mexico and if so what was the result? How did we look? Could we have gotten more?
Latapy will bring it home!!!
When Sub and I start to agree I does have to stop and think again :)
First of all after that debacle vs. CR, my expectations at the Azteca were limited. Performing at high altitude is always an uphill task.
Mexico has lost one WC qualifier at the Azteca in the last 30 years - because of the altitude. Only CR another high alt country can consistently give them a run for their money there. If Mexico concede four goals at home in the Hex, is plenty.
We had no Avery, Stern, Glenn, Sancho, Scotlan and Tallest (I coulda do without Tallest;-))
For the first 10 mnts it was Clayton Ince vs Mexico and he did a helluva job, his detractors should admit this.
He was also damn good vs CR.
I was impressed how the TT defense settled down for the rest of the half and managed some forays into the Mex box. I then realised that if the realities of high alt were no to kick in during the seond hlf, this game could look very different.
PPl should understand that KJ was up front by himself and being tripled teamed. He was always going to ketch ass but it did free up the other players. My only problem was they were feeding KJ balls on the ground, when they should have aimed it up, he was taller than the defenders and he would have had a chance to control and stab a shot or pass.
EVERYONE knew TT was going to ketch ass in the last 45 mnts but they sucked it up, if we had to lose at least it was to a helluva shot that would've beaten most keepers.
We defended as a TEAM did what we had to do to survive and forced the Mexicans to go wide. Yorke did a helluva job defensively. Daniel had his best game. We finally saw some of that flair that he is known for. It's important that players like him, Tinto, Noel etc show their wares, it takes pressure off the defense and can draw fouls. Also, we need some brilliance aside from Carlos and Latas.
We laid back in the second half because of an oxygen problem and nothing else. I would've liked to have seen more balls pumped to the subs but as said bfore, a helluva job defending as a team.
Sure Mex should hve scored more. We should've doen the same vs El Salv and CR, but this is football. We never should've drawn with Sweden, but hard defending and luck saw us through.
Because of geography and not becz of a mediocre Mex team, this will rank as one of the great TT performances right up there with our games vs Sweden and Eng. at the WC.
WC or no WC, I will be damn proud of what I saw on June 10.
Looking at Daniel, Bakr, Hyland, Tinto, Birchall, Baptieste, Noel etc, I can't wait to see what happens when these guys get better blooded.
WELL DONE TT, I AM PROUD!!!
VB
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Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 2 games (thanx fuh de correction vb) in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
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Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 games in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
A pig with lipstick will always look better to some. Yeah the team moving better but we still losing so me eh understand why peeps think we would be anywhere different.
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Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 games in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
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Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 games in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
The logic on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Under Latas we lost to CR, top team in the group and Mexico in the Azteca, historically the most difficult place to play. And you are comparing this with a scrambled draw against Honduras at home and a draw with El Salvador on the road.
Dude, under Maturana we looked clueless. Now we look like we have a clue, and this is the first step. I think if we have a consistent program under Latas for the next 4 years we will have a great chance to progress to the next WC.
Our campaigns are always so disjointed and warm up tournaments like the Gold Cup and Digicel Cup always seem liek a waste of time
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Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 games in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
The logic on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Under Latas we lost to CR, top team in the group and Mexico in the Azteca, historically the most difficult place to play. And you are comparing this with a scrambled draw against Honduras at home and a draw with El Salvador on the road.
Dude, under Maturana we looked clueless. Now we look like we have a clue, and this is the first step. I think if we have a consistent program under Latas for the next 4 years we will have a great chance to progress to the next WC.
Our campaigns are always so disjointed and warm up tournaments like the Gold Cup and Digicel Cup always seem liek a waste of time
De same Mexico dat El Salvador now finish beatin?
De Mexico dat is probably de wuss Mexico side since 1973?
Dat Mexico team?
And lest we forget....it's been 8 years since we last lost to Costa Rica at home in WCQ.
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We have a good squad but dis is d problem
DF Marvin Andrews December 22, 1975 (1975-12-22) (age 33)
DF Avery John June 18, 1975 (1975-06-18) (age 33)
DF Keyeno Thomas December 29, 1977 (1977-12-29) (age 31)
DF Dennis Lawrence August 1, 1974 (1974-08-01) (age 34)
MF Trent Noel January 14, 1974 (1974-01-14) (age 35)
Aurtis Whitley May 1, 1977 (1977-05-01) (age 32)
MF Dwight Yorke Captain December 3, 1971 (1971-12-03) (age 37)
Stern John
30 October 1976 (1976-10-30) (age 32)
For our team to move foward, these players.....(with the exception of mabye thomas) cannot play another match for Trinidad and Tobago.
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Fantastic game T&T and of course Kudos to the coach. This is very esalily the best result we have had at the azteca and probaly one of the better if not the best performance. I will single out the performance of Hislop and Bakr. Hislop becz I thought he was a lost cause and Bakr for rebounding so well after the earlier lapse in his first game at the azteca. although mexico dominated this was par the course. I shudder to think of the result had Maturana been in charge. We will qualify and the team will continue to grow into a respectable unit under Latapy. We dont need Arena as some fool suggested or anyone else for that matter at this point in time. I wonder if Beenie ever took us to mexico and if so what was the result? How did we look? Could we have gotten more?
Latapy will bring it home!!!
When Sub and I start to agree I does have to stop and think again :)
WELL DONE TT, I AM PROUD!!!
VB
At least now we know that only time you agree with me is when you are thinking ;D..I am proud of your candor. If I can cause you to think again let me say that I also agree with your last line. unlike some real idiots on this board you have realised long ago that Maturana should have been gone long ago. Some fools say this is the worst mexican team without realising that the other teams are just getting better to the point of matching mexico. Ah boy VB it hard to even try to answer some of these idiots at times.
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Latas was needed long time, Jack played the arse and left Maturana too long as coach. All now so we could have had a better chance under Latas.
steupssssssssssssss >:(
Yet
Maturana had 3 games in the Hex - 2 draws and a loss from 1 home match and 2 away matches
Latas has 3 games in the Hex to date - 2 losses from 1 home match and 1 away match
2 points versus zero.
Yes de team playin better under Latas, but dumbtist goat maturana squad have more points. How dat translate to havin a better chance under Latas?
The logic on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Under Latas we lost to CR, top team in the group and Mexico in the Azteca, historically the most difficult place to play. And you are comparing this with a scrambled draw against Honduras at home and a draw with El Salvador on the road.
Dude, under Maturana we looked clueless. Now we look like we have a clue, and this is the first step. I think if we have a consistent program under Latas for the next 4 years we will have a great chance to progress to the next WC.
Our campaigns are always so disjointed and warm up tournaments like the Gold Cup and Digicel Cup always seem liek a waste of time
De same Mexico dat El Salvador now finish beatin?
De Mexico dat is probably de wuss Mexico side since 1973?
Dat Mexico team?
And lest we forget....it's been 8 years since we last lost to Costa Rica at home in WCQ.
Yes fellow.
The same Mexico side that still qualifying for the world cup next year and the same Costa Rica that is qualifying top of the group.
Those teams.
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De same Mexico dat El Salvador now finish beatin?
You talking like El Salvador beat Mexico in the Azteca. Come better than that
De Mexico dat is probably de wuss Mexico side since 1973?
Dat Mexico team?
Talking about how bad Mexico is, is a joke, since is only one side of the equation. If this was the best T&T team you saw in a while, you might have a point. But as it is not...again, you hadda come better than that. Where were we in the Hex table compared to Mexico before the game. Where was the game played?
And lest we forget....it's been 8 years since we last lost to Costa Rica at home in WCQ.
you talking like we does play WC qualifiers every year. tell me..when is the last time we beat CR in any kind of WC qualifier
and you maths is toots. Maturana had 2 points in 3 games. Latas has 0 points in 2 games. I see vb correck you and you still stubborn enough to still make the comparison. Until T&T play a 3rd game under Latas, it is too early to make that point. It has no merit anyway, but just to entertain the thought...if we beat El Salvador at home, Latas will do more in WCQ with far less preparation than Mats...so slow you row and wait for the 3rd game before trying to throw that out there
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i was happy when tinto scored wid dat beauty of a bullit because i was shouting shoot it tinto shoot it. low and behold he shot it, d rest is history.
i am happy wid dey performance. dey lost.
forgive me if i cynical dey pardner.
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aye watch, noel is not ah playmaker, he is ah holding midfielder. yorke shoulda come off d bench to replace noel.
ball of confusion..................
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man talkn abt coming 4th and playin playoff game is not shitty baharain we gonna play actually by the look of it messi go be running at marvin andrews
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All who saying how good we play either delusional or just don't know the game. We did absolutely nothing. One or two individual attempts (one was a defelection to Tinto that he took absolutely well), but nothing to talk about. NO link up with the forward, no combination play in midfield, no defensive presence, nothing. To say we play well is incredible. Had Ince played like the field players we would be singing something different. We were undersiege for long periods of time. We could not even clear the ball properly - most of our attempts falling to the Mexicans - and when we did we lost the ball in less than 4-5 passes.
The coach did not affect the game. Our formation remained unchanged, up until the end of the game when we were pressed back into our 18 yards box that the forwards ??? had to drop to become the midfield leaving not forward line. The left side was undersiege and no apparent instructions on how to fix it was given. The subs never made and impact, they just exchange places with their weary peers.
I cannot see how people can say great job when we were absolutely a mess. Had that been JA or had the coach been Maturana or Corneal, the message baord would have been burnt to the hard drive. The score was not a bad one, but the game itself was an absolute nightmare for us.
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Elan,
We are not delusional. We are happy we did not get 8. That's why everybody saying our play improved. As hard as it was watching that "backs and forwards" game last night, It worse seeing TT get 8. I saw the last one when we got planassed in that same stadium and one of our guys get red carded to boot.
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Palos...you are really the devil..forget advocate
if it was so simple big man
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Elan,
We are not delusional. We are happy we did not get 8. That's why everybody saying our play improved. As hard as it was watching that "backs and forwards" game last night, It worse seeing TT get 8. I saw the last one when we got planassed in that same stadium and one of our guys get red carded to boot.
When you put it like that I understand.
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Elan,
We are not delusional. We are happy we did not get 8. That's why everybody saying our play improved. As hard as it was watching that "backs and forwards" game last night, It worse seeing TT get 8. I saw the last one when we got planassed in that same stadium and one of our guys get red carded to boot.
When you put it like that I understand.
lolol, planassed in the stadium--lmao.
Very dignified performance from our players. All heads should be held high.
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Palos...you are really the devil..forget advocate
if it was so simple big man
Palos seeing he period about 15 months now
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Palos...you are really the devil..forget advocate
if it was so simple big man
Palos seeing he period about 15 months now
just now he go need to invest in a new one of these.....
(http://filebox.vt.edu/users/midavis1/images/question-mark.jpg)
;D
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I would love to see this team play. ;D
INCE
ABU HISLOP
EDWARDS AVERY
BIRCHALL
PELTIER HYLAND
TINTO DANIEL
GLENN
Think about it...dat is a good team for the future.
Ent de future is now?
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I would love to see this team play. ;D
INCE
ABU HISLOP
EDWARDS AVERY
BIRCHALL
PELTIER HYLAND
TINTO DANIEL
GLENN
Think about it...dat is a good team for the future.
Ent de future is now?
future starting later today
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Yes, now plus a nanosecond.
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Here is another team I would like to see play ;D
Williams
ABU Keyno
James Avery
Birchall
Hyland
Edwards Tinto
Roberts Glenn
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http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kJduc3F6hfc
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Ince - solid game for us. Showed his experience and wasn't afraid to cuss Yorke when he wasn't pulling his weight. I thought he reacted slowly to the second goal, but it was so well struck I can't critisize him for not getting to it.
Abu Bakr - Men hard on him but I thought he was solid, especially given that this was his debut match. Sure he made a few mistakes including a bit of ball watching, but he tackled well, read the game well most of the time and with a bit more confidence could develop into a good defender.
Hislop - was too often out of position and he was playing catch up and recovery too often. He doesn't understand the offside trap and ball watches too much. His tackling wasn't bad though and he fought well in a position he probably never played before at a meaningful level.
Andrews - for a man of his experience he looked exactly like the debutant most of the time. Like most of the other defenders we've used he's often guilty of ball watching when he should be marking or at least looking to close off a passing lane. He seemed to be a calming foil for Ince's remonstrations and put in a decent, if not spectacular shift.
Edwards - continues to show why he is our best player at the moment. Worked hard as usual, tackled well and generally made it difficult for the Mexicans on our right flank.
Yorke - was slow, but steady and generally covered the back 4 well. When he ran out of gas though he probably should have been subbed out, but that's not his call to make.
Birchall - was his usual steady self. Still a bit prone to the error under pressure, but he's keeping the game simple and playing within his limitations.
Noel - had a strong game. Defended well, wasn't afraid to put a little muscle into some challenges with a few Mexicans and looked like he had a bit more gas in the tank when he came off. Needs a bit more polish in his attacking game, but overall put in a good shift.
Daniel - I'm not a fan, but for a change I think he had a good game for us. It was the first time I saw him put in that much work defensively and a lot of the time when he had the ball he was able to play for a throw to retain position. Not bad considering it was often 1 vs 3 or 4. Put in a couple good crosses and if I had anything critical to say is that he probably can try to set up a few more like that.
Tinto - another one who lacks international polish, but he's fearless and skillful. Not a bad striker of the ball either and with a more active striker working with him he can probably develop into a serious threat. He took his chance well and set it up well by recognising the pressure on the ball and stepping into the passing lane. He'd proven it was no fluke by doing it a couple other times before in the half. Disappeared in the second half, but probably will improve on that with experience.
Jones - doesn't seem to be moving around freely. Could have been more aggressive on the cross ball from Daniel and even in the CR game seemed tentative to go into 50/50s with the keeper (a remnant from the England match?). Needs to up his work rate to be more effective for the team.
Jorsling - was out of his depth. Didn't know how to retain possession. Not much else to say about him.
Spann - didn't have a good first touch and might have been more composed with his shot that went overbars. Worked hard, but didn't have much impact either way on the field.
Baptiste - also didn't have much impact either way.
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Ince - solid game for us. Showed his experience and wasn't afraid to cuss Yorke when he wasn't pulling his weight. I thought he reacted slowly to the second goal, but it was so well struck I can't critisize him for not getting to it.
Abu Bakr - Men hard on him but I thought he was solid, especially given that this was his debut match. Sure he made a few mistakes including a bit of ball watching, but he tackled well, read the game well most of the time and with a bit more confidence could develop into a good defender.
Hislop - was too often out of position and he was playing catch up and recovery too often. He doesn't understand the offside trap and ball watches too much. His tackling wasn't bad though and he fought well in a position he probably never played before at a meaningful level.
Andrews - for a man of his experience he looked exactly like the debutant most of the time. Like most of the other defenders we've used he's often guilty of ball watching when he should be marking or at least looking to close off a passing lane. He seemed to be a calming foil for Ince's remonstrations and put in a decent, if not spectacular shift.
Edwards - continues to show why he is our best player at the moment. Worked hard as usual, tackled well and generally made it difficult for the Mexicans on our right flank.
Yorke - was slow, but steady and generally covered the back 4 well. When he ran out of gas though he probably should have been subbed out, but that's not his call to make.
Birchall - was his usual steady self. Still a bit prone to the error under pressure, but he's keeping the game simple and playing within his limitations.
Noel - had a strong game. Defended well, wasn't afraid to put a little muscle into some challenges with a few Mexicans and looked like he had a bit more gas in the tank when he came off. Needs a bit more polish in his attacking game, but overall put in a good shift.
Daniel - . Not bad considering it was often 1 vs 3 or 4. Put in a couple good crosses and if I had anything critical to say is that he I'm not a fan, but for a change I think he had a good game for us. It was the first time I saw him put in that much work defensively and a lot of the time when he had the ball he was able to play for a throw to retain positionprobably can try to set up a few more like that.
Tinto - another one who lacks international polish, but he's fearless and skillful. Not a bad striker of the ball either and with a more active striker working with him he can probably develop into a serious threat. He took his chance well and set it up well by recognising the pressure on the ball and stepping into the passing lane. He'd proven it was no fluke by doing it a couple other times before in the half. Disappeared in the second half, but probably will improve on that with experience.
Jones - doesn't seem to be moving around freely. Could have been more aggressive on the cross ball from Daniel and even in the CR game seemed tentative to go into 50/50s with the keeper (a remnant from the England match?). Needs to up his work rate to be more effective for the team.
Jorsling - was out of his depth. Didn't know how to retain possession. Not much else to say about him.
Spann - didn't have a good first touch and might have been more composed with his shot that went overbars. Worked hard, but didn't have much impact either way on the field.
Baptiste - also didn't have much impact either way.
Excellent assessment in its entirety. If Russel could just move Daniel out of small-goal mode I believe he can be an asset to the team. He had a bad game by international standards but it is the best I have ever seen him play. i am hopeful we could still make something out of him.
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Excellent analysis they boy Gordo...
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Good post wolfy...I agree with your assessment give or take but we def watched the same game..
About Abu I would say he looked very naive on the first goal, and that first impression is what tainted the perception of his overall game...I agree he settled down and actually played well overall.
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Let the cussing start ...
it really amazing that no-one yet from what i've read (apologies if i missed it in this thread) saying anything negative about Latas as coach!
Latas will make a good coach someday ... but in this current position with this team ... them fellas go make any coach head hurt. As someone said it's not easy coaching at this level and it aint easy playing at this level ... you think them fellas intentionally gone out there to do crap? Anybody whoever play the game in any kind of competition knows how hard it is ... sometimes i think some of the comments are very harsh ... this may be one of them ... ultimately is the coaches responsibility to come up with the game plan and the players to do it ... at the end of the game it's his responsibility to bear ... win or loss!
Sometimes, as a coach on the sidelines you can't see everything as some of us who have a better view on screen and benefits of replays etc.
At the end of the day, i wish the team well ... but if we can't learn to stop trying to play prettyboy football and try make at least 3 to 4 passes without giving away the ball ... we ent have no business going WC.
Imagine we playing a crucial WC qualifier and no-one get any yellow card? To me the only thing Latas bring in the last two days is a sort of pride back in them fellas ...
Saying that ... i will also offer a suggestion ... as you should never criticize without at least offering a solution ... we need an experienced coach to lead our guys ... also should be at least 2-3 years at the helm ... could be someone like Bruce Arena with Latas as assistant grooming to take over ... he consistenly had USA playing and winning in our region and most of those guys wasn't half as "skillful" as we fellas ... but at this level it ent about who push ball through man leg, round them, over they head as we like to see ... is about war on the field! Friendship after!
Hopefully, we can recover and get to 4th place and a playoff ... Best wishes to Latas and the team!
Thas my 2cents ... Go easy on the cussin eh!
I AGREE...CAUSE FOOTBALL PLAY IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO IS SO DIFFERENT THAN IN OTHER PART OF THE WORLD (IT SEEM).....YOU HAVE TO WONDER...EVERY TIME SOCAWARRIOR PLAY...I CHECK EVERY PASS THEY MAKE...ITS AH SHAME WENT YOU CHECK ON UR FINGER IT DOESN'T PASS TWO MOST OF TIME....THEIR IS SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT T&T FOOTBALL...IT DOESN'T WORTH IT...ALL WE COULD REALLY DO AS A FAN'S IS HOPE FOR THE BEST AND REAL CHANGE...BOTTOM LINE
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I AGREE...CAUSE FOOTBALL PLAY IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO IS SO DIFFERENT THAN IN OTHER PART OF THE WORLD (IT SEEM).....YOU HAVE TO WONDER...EVERY TIME SOCAWARRIOR PLAY...I CHECK EVERY PASS THEY MAKE...ITS AH SHAME WENT YOU CHECK ON UR FINGER IT DOESN'T PASS TWO MOST OF TIME....THEIR IS SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT T&T FOOTBALL...IT DOESN'T WORTH IT...ALL WE COULD REALLY DO AS A FAN'S IS HOPE FOR THE BEST AND REAL CHANGE...BOTTOM LINE
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Abu Bakr got a yellow card in the sec. hlf.
VB
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I AGREE...CAUSE FOOTBALL PLAY IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO IS SO DIFFERENT THAN IN OTHER PART OF THE WORLD (IT SEEM).....YOU HAVE TO WONDER...EVERY TIME SOCAWARRIOR PLAY...I CHECK EVERY PASS THEY MAKE...ITS AH SHAME WENT YOU CHECK ON UR FINGER IT DOESN'T PASS TWO MOST OF TIME....THEIR IS SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT T&T FOOTBALL...IT DOESN'T WORTH IT...ALL WE COULD REALLY DO AS A FAN'S IS HOPE FOR THE BEST AND REAL CHANGE...BOTTOM LINE
you coulda just edit the original post boss.
Vb
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Then men on the radio getting jones on Jones. They say he need a rest, that a one foot man coulda score that goal he miss.
Yorke need a rest, they say make him assistant so he could wear a blazer too. He and Latapy will be invincible.
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What kinda ass would say we doh need DY right now.
VB
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What kinda ass would say we doh need DY right now.
VB
call names
ah go :whistling:
:D
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some of alyuh posters gettin orn like a person who boil a pot of white rice, put orn a pair of brown shades and eating it and bawling the pelau tasting good.
Touches