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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Controversial on June 11, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
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Its time they drop all the foreign based, too old and slow, not up to par in the intl game. The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men. I agree, the only person who is older who could add anything of substance to that impotent midfield is latas, no one else.
If jones doesnt have a creative mid to service him during the match, he shouldnt start, its pointless, a fellah like roberts should be there starting bc he runs at the defense, he can actually create and dribble. We dont have any wingers delivering quality crosses into jones, so why is he starting? Bc hes an epl starter? bullshit.
In fact, a fellah like jagdeo can do better than birchall and is a potential offensive threat at that, with tinto on the wing, edwards needs to realize that hes a bonified right back, its his natural position, he has the speed, the passing and the hustle to play the part well.
I hope we can get glen back and roberts bc they are needed, if we get samuel and zamora, even better.
Ince
edwards thomas samuel pacheco
jagdeosingh/noel
tinto spann zamora daniel
roberts
subs:
abu bakr, adams, javed mohammed, jones, glen, yohance marshall, james, guerra, hyland
allyuh can add, its time the team get some young legs to start running and playing real football
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
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You have bout 47 foreign-based players in your list, though.
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless-
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
kendall is better in the aspect of dribbling, speed and scoring, the intl game has changed, defenders no longer only defend, they attack, they pass, its an all round game now, maybe i was harsh in dropping birchall, but yes you are right he is a good asset and i will add him back, bc your point is well taken.
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You have bout 47 foreign-based players in your list, though.
dat 47 is ah typo?
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
i hear man talking bout ince so good and ince save we from conceding more. the goals ince saved any keeper was supposed tuh save them, to me he did nothing spectacular, he needs time on the bench along wid KJ, lawrence , dog, yorke , and scotty. dem men need tuh know they have tuh play wid urgency and awareness.
last night ince came out tuh challenge the mexican half heartedly, he was suppose tuh command his area and rush that pr!ck like he was playing for his life. in ah nutshell...... none of our players does play wid any sense of urgency.
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
not mad, just genius, those names you are calling, will not make 2014 brazil, why are they there, this is or opportunity to bring some youth to the side, with a month to prepare, not to mention, our strategy is not working, dont you think its time to change it? that team yuh name there, not going anywhere without a world renound coach who has a excellent sysytem of play. Your dreaming, bc the players mentioned not hungry anymore, play hungry players.
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
Weh roberts do yuh yute? every time ah see yuh put ah squad together, yuh does pick all kinda fellas and leave out darryl.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
i hear man talking bout ince so good and ince save we from conceding more. the goals ince saved any keeper was supposed tuh save them, to me he did nothing spectacular, he needs time on the bench along wid KJ, lawrence , dog, yorke , and scotty. dem men need tuh know they have tuh play wid urgency and awareness.
last night ince came out tuh challenge the mexican half heartedly, he was suppose tuh command his area and rush that pr!ck like he was playing for his life. in ah nutshell...... none of our players does play wid any sense of urgency.
good point but our defenders were hopeless breds, they continuously stringing up the keeper, they should be grooming marvin who is better than williams in my opinion, but he get left for dead by the backline, it was evident.
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kendall is better in the aspect of dribbling, speed and scoring, the intl game has changed, defenders no longer only defend, they attack, they pass, its an all round game now, maybe i was harsh in dropping birchall, but yes you are right he is a good asset and i will add him back, bc your point is well taken.
Kendall isn't really tested at the level we talkin' about though...A-league and WC qualifiers is two different kettles of fish. I like Jagdeo because he has pace, and an eye for goal, but I've seen him play and I'm not convinced that he can transition to the level we're talking about. He's an in and out player for PR Islanders...lewwe put it in perspective....Maybe he deserves a look, but I wouldn't pencil him in as a game changer for our senior team....And from what I remember Birchall can threaten the goal (and even hit the net from long range) when given the chance..
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
small man what i dont understand is how you can say its a shit team when you never see a young, hungry, fast tt squad play? venezuala play a u20 team and do well against seniors in south america, last night you see what tinto do that all the star boy players didnt do, the only person who does look hungry is edwards and birchall at times. we have 2 points breddah, that is proof enough that the team you list is failure.
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
not mad, just genius, those names you are calling, will not make 2014 brazil, why are they there, this is or opportunity to bring some youth to the side, with a month to prepare, not to mention, our strategy is not working, dont you think its time to change it? that team yuh name there, not going anywhere without a world renound coach who has a excellent sysytem of play. Your dreaming, bc the players mentioned not hungry anymore, play hungry players.
everyplayer i put in that starting selection is hungry... The only people not hungry is Scotty and Jones
my 20 man squad.. i am including Scotty and KJ because know they can be turned and willing to give it a go.. but I will not hold my breath
Ince
Phillip
Carlos
Sancho
Lawrence
Avery
James
Dog
Tinto
Birchall
Yorke
Hyland
Noel
Spann
Samuel
Daniel
Stern
Roberts
KJ
Scotty
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
i hear man talking bout ince so good and ince save we from conceding more. the goals ince saved any keeper was supposed tuh save them, to me he did nothing spectacular, he needs time on the bench along wid KJ, lawrence , dog, yorke , and scotty. dem men need tuh know they have tuh play wid urgency and awareness.
last night ince came out tuh challenge the mexican half heartedly, he was suppose tuh command his area and rush that pr!ck like he was playing for his life. in ah nutshell...... none of our players does play wid any sense of urgency.
Yuh real harsh on Ince. His performance was big last night- I dunno if JMW is better but to say Ince is sh*t is real harsh especially after he wore the colours so bravely last night...yuh wicked. Easy to say who shoulda save what when yuh park up on your couch, but let's be real- a one on one, and a beamer in the V? Gi' de man a bligh...
With regard to urgency- C. Edwards, Birchall & Tinto play with a good level of intensity in my opinion.
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kendall is better in the aspect of dribbling, speed and scoring, the intl game has changed, defenders no longer only defend, they attack, they pass, its an all round game now, maybe i was harsh in dropping birchall, but yes you are right he is a good asset and i will add him back, bc your point is well taken.
Kendall isn't really tested at the level we talkin' about though...A-league and WC qualifiers is two different kettles of fish. I like Jagdeo because he has pace, and an eye for goal, but I've seen him play and I'm not convinced that he can transition to the level we're talking about. He's an in and out player for PR Islanders...lewwe put it in perspective....Maybe he deserves a look, but I wouldn't pencil him in as a game changer for our senior team....And from what I remember Birchall can threaten the goal (and even hit the net from long range) when given the chance..
well breddah the same was said about tinto and he has proven wrong, if the coach instills confidence and doesnt label a player before he actually plays, you may see some surprises, your a fellah who has been watching the game a long time as myself, we both know, that certain players play well for their country and fit just right, certain players dont, case in point, birchall, nothing ventured, nothing gained, jaggy gets my nod, speed, pace and posession is what we are aiming for, its intl football.
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
not mad, just genius, those names you are calling, will not make 2014 brazil, why are they there, this is or opportunity to bring some youth to the side, with a month to prepare, not to mention, our strategy is not working, dont you think its time to change it? that team yuh name there, not going anywhere without a world renound coach who has a excellent sysytem of play. Your dreaming, bc the players mentioned not hungry anymore, play hungry players.
What WC you talking bout TI ? we need ah miracle tuh catch dat boat! i do agree wid yuh on a number of things though.
those vets i believe still have jack in dey heart for the impass and they decide they're only playing for the caps so they could continue player in europe. but i feel them fellas said tuh hell wid giving we all! to the detriment of us the fans.
if yuh ask me, i don't think them players really care bout the fans nah! they on themselves. right now , we need tuh bring in all the fellas who under 26 and start playing together forming ah core of players for 2014, it was ah good run, but to many obsticles stood in the way. my only regret is that we not in the gold cup, that would've been good experience for the yutes.
i want latas tuh stay on as coach, and he also needs tuh look @ every one , and ah mean everyone!
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
not mad, just genius, those names you are calling, will not make 2014 brazil, why are they there, this is or opportunity to bring some youth to the side, with a month to prepare, not to mention, our strategy is not working, dont you think its time to change it? that team yuh name there, not going anywhere without a world renound coach who has a excellent sysytem of play. Your dreaming, bc the players mentioned not hungry anymore, play hungry players.
everyplayer i put in that starting selection is hungry... The only people not hungry is Scotty and Jones
my 20 man squad.. i am including Scotty and KJ because know they can be turned and willing to give it a go.. but I will not hold my breath
Ince
Phillip
Carlos
Sancho
Lawrence
Avery
James
Dog
Tinto
Birchall
Yorke
Hyland
Noel
Spann
Samuel
Daniel
Stern
Roberts
KJ
Scotty
but breddah, the age is the problem, we need a boost of speed and dribbling, passing ability in the backline to start with, thats why i included the youths, it starts from the back, once we have a solid backline, that rest will fall into place, stern is old, scotty is an intl shithound as proven, jones cant score unless he gets the service, whch leaves glen and roberts. Playing an old backline is not feasible, if it was working i would agree but the reason we out of it is bc of the defense and lack of speed,creativity, and pass ability in the mid.
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who say tinto to replace ronaldo at Man U??? lol... He go be BIG
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you are a madman...simple...check that squad how unbalanced and shitty
you want a starting XI that can beat people?
------------------Ince---
--Carlos----Sancho---Dog/James/Lawrence----Avery
Tinto--------Yorke--------Birchall-----------Samuel
------------------Spann/Hyland
-------------------STERN JOHN
I fed up with KJ and Scotty
not mad, just genius, those names you are calling, will not make 2014 brazil, why are they there, this is or opportunity to bring some youth to the side, with a month to prepare, not to mention, our strategy is not working, dont you think its time to change it? that team yuh name there, not going anywhere without a world renound coach who has a excellent sysytem of play. Your dreaming, bc the players mentioned not hungry anymore, play hungry players.
What WC you talking bout TI ? we need ah miracle tuh catch dat boat! i do agree wid yuh on a number of things though.
those vets i believe still have jack in dey heart for the impass and they decide they're only playing for the caps so they could continue player in europe. but i feel them fellas said tuh hell wid giving we all! to the detriment of us the fans.
if yuh ask me, i don't think them players really care bout the fans nah! they on themselves. right now , we need tuh bring in all the fellas who under 26 and start playing together forming ah core of players for 2014, it was ah good run, but to many obsticles stood in the way. my only regret is that we not in the gold cup, that would've been good experience for the yutes.
i want latas tuh stay on as coach, and he also needs tuh look @ every one , and ah mean everyone!
well they throw the US match, so why not the campaign, thats another reason they need to go, a continued vendetta with jack is insignificent in comparison to the fans love and support and reppin your nation. Going to Africa is historic and significant enough to play football, play the youths yes, i fed up seeing men on here making excuse for big hardback men when they play shit.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
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Typical TI post.
Let me summarize it:
1. They fighting down the local-based.
2. Jagdeosingh should get a sweat
All the rest is smokescreen fuh allyuh to debate.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
i hear man talking bout ince so good and ince save we from conceding more. the goals ince saved any keeper was supposed tuh save them, to me he did nothing spectacular, he needs time on the bench along wid KJ, lawrence , dog, yorke , and scotty. dem men need tuh know they have tuh play wid urgency and awareness.
last night ince came out tuh challenge the mexican half heartedly, he was suppose tuh command his area and rush that pr!ck like he was playing for his life. in ah nutshell...... none of our players does play wid any sense of urgency.
Yuh real harsh on Ince. His performance was big last night- I dunno if JMW is better but to say Ince is sh*t is real harsh especially after he wore the colours so bravely last night...yuh wicked. Easy to say who shoulda save what when yuh park up on your couch, but let's be real- a one on one, and a beamer in the V? Gi' de man a bligh...
With regard to urgency- C. Edwards, Birchall & Tinto play with a good level of intensity in my opinion.
Why you always on me so bredder, wham ah do yuh something in the past or what?
but i will respond tuh yuh. #1 =first of all the one on one was a result of the offside trap being broken, ince came out much too slow and half heartedly, the bredder didn't put nothing in no V!! all he did was slightly chiped it over ince dunce head and goal!
# 2= well i eh have it like you so i cyar fly tuh mexico and see the game ,so i have tuh park it and do the couch thing, but it seem that you only have a problem wid my couch analysis, but when you and yuh pals do it , then it's all good.
# 3 = i dun see what kinda person you is! yuhs ah real hater who like tuh make man feel small. yuh have ah real dark heart fella. so i feel yuh should just scroll past my post and don't even bother tuh read dem since every time i post yuh does catch bad feelings.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
it was a defensive lapse by our backline and mid, giving mexico that much space caused the shot in the first place, tt hardly get that much space within 10 yards of the box, ince was left at sea, cant really blame him, he was caught offguard, once again the defense in our first third was terrible to say the least.
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Typical TI post.
Let me summarize it:
1. They fighting down the local-based.
2. Jagdeosingh should get a sweat
All the rest is smokescreen fuh allyuh to debate.
3. Speed. Beats. Shoot. Spectacle.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
yea, that becoming real annoying to watch. but sometimes d yellin at d players is justified eh, like how he do yorke las nite
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
i hear man talking bout ince so good and ince save we from conceding more. the goals ince saved any keeper was supposed tuh save them, to me he did nothing spectacular, he needs time on the bench along wid KJ, lawrence , dog, yorke , and scotty. dem men need tuh know they have tuh play wid urgency and awareness.
last night ince came out tuh challenge the mexican half heartedly, he was suppose tuh command his area and rush that pr!ck like he was playing for his life. in ah nutshell...... none of our players does play wid any sense of urgency.
yuh on craCK! iNCE COULD DO NUTTEN ABOUT DEM TWO GOALS..ESPECIALLY THE SCORCHER FROM ABOUT 30 YARDS
WHAT DOES DO ALLYUH SOMETIMES BOY?
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Typical TI post.
Let me summarize it:
1. They fighting down the local-based.
2. Jagdeosingh should get a sweat
All the rest is smokescreen fuh allyuh to debate.
3. Speed. Beats. Shoot. Spectacle.
tinto do that and score, far less for the rest of them, hear nah i post my opinion on here for everyone to debate like civilized men and women, i not getting into any writing war bc men bitter or dont like meh head, not into the small man games, if allyuh have something constructive tuh write, write it, otherwise ride out of posting anything bout me sah.
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I tinkin more like:
Jones
Roberts
Hyland Tinto
Birchall
Daniel Edwards
James Abu Bakr
Thomas
Phillip(for d future)
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Why you always on me so bredder, wham ah do yuh something in the past or what?
but i will respond tuh yuh. #1 =first of all the one on one was a result of the offside trap being broken, ince came out much too slow and half heartedly, the bredder didn't put nothing in no V!! all he did was slightly chiped it over ince dunce head and goal!
# 2= well i eh have it like you so i cyar fly tuh mexico and see the game ,so i have tuh park it and do the couch thing, but it seem that you only have a problem wid my couch analysis, but when you and yuh pals do it , then it's all good.
# 3 = i dun see what kinda person you is! yuhs ah real hater who like tuh make man feel small. yuh have ah real dark heart fella. so i feel yuh should just scroll past my post and don't even bother tuh read dem since every time i post yuh does catch bad feelings.
lol hoss how you like a drama so?...lawd...just saying I thought you were harsh on Ince for his performance last night....
the one on one, and the shot in the V, were references to two different goals...
my heart dark, I like tuh make man feel small, I's a hater, you know what kinda fella I am....all dat from a simple response dread? lol...geez..Notice up to now I never say nuttin' about you yet eh.... but my heart dark :rotfl:
Anyway.......
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance, that's the awareness of ah keeper. that mexican goal was not in no dam V either! it was a little bit too ince right, he got caught off his line and that's pretty much it.
goals ince coulda save. first bermuda game when he stayed on the ground waiting for the ref tuh blow his whistle.
the el salvador goal 2nd goal.
josy altidor's 3rd goal the hatric maker.
the last two goals VS costa rica! and last nights two goals!
it's 10 goals the man concede in 4 games bro!! come on !! get real, that is un acceptable!
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Typical TI post.
Let me summarize it:
1. They fighting down the local-based.
2. Jagdeosingh should get a sweat
All the rest is smokescreen fuh allyuh to debate.
I happened tuh like this thread! every man entitled tuh his oppinion, it's ah FORUM!!!
loww the man and stop hating!
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Just Cool,
I have to disagree with you on the Ince issue. Yes you can fault him on some of the CR goals, but last night we were good for 6. We only get 2 because the Mex. forwards were toots and Ince save we. Yes he has his faults but he came up big time. Mex had 90% of that game. It was constant pressure and he stepped up to the plate.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance, that's the awareness of ah keeper. that mexican goal was not in no dam V either! it was a little bit too ince right, he got caught off his line and that's pretty much it.
goals ince coulda save. first bermuda game when he stayed on the ground waiting for the ref tuh blow his whistle.
the el salvador goal 2nd goal.
josy altidor's 3rd goal the hatric maker.
the last two goals VS costa rica! and last nights two goals!
it's 10 goals the man concede in 4 games bro!! come on !! get real, that is un acceptable!
So the goalkeeper does play by heself? The defense have nuttin to do with him conceding goals? Boss, Iker Casillas give up plenty goals this year too, that means he is sh!t? Couldn't disagree with you more.....We have the wuss defense...the absolute wuss defense in the hex by a fricken mile...we cyar even play 3 same men in the back 4 each game. Ah man hit ah blast up in the jep nest and you blame the keeper....What I go say, we watch two different games and must agree to disagree.
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Maybe JC ketch a zeppo dat Latas say de only way Darryl Roberts makin de team is as a goalie hence de attack on Ince... ;D
Anyway JC...I jes kicksin eh....nex ting yuh sayin my heart dark, yuh do meh sumting in de past and Iz a hatah and ting... ;D
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance, that's the awareness of ah keeper. that mexican goal was not in no dam V either! it was a little bit too ince right, he got caught off his line and that's pretty much it.
goals ince coulda save. first bermuda game when he stayed on the ground waiting for the ref tuh blow his whistle.
the el salvador goal 2nd goal.
josy altidor's 3rd goal the hatric maker.
the last two goals VS costa rica! and last nights two goals!
it's 10 goals the man concede in 4 games bro!! come on !! get real, that is un acceptable!
IMO, it only have about 3 keepers i know on the planet who was saving that bullet...
Casillas, Cech and Julio Cruz.. I eh even think man like Van de sar, friedel and howard was getting up and flying across to palm that away with dey old self.
Ince is an older keeper and dont have them ups, but flying doth not maketh the goalkeeper.. Man like Schmeichel and Oliver Kahn saw their greatest years when in terms of physical attributes, they probably would not have saved ah demon like that either.
As for the first goal i really dont know what you was looking for different. The keeper charging out the goal in a 1 v 1 and pretty much is left without a choice but diving at the attackers feet to cut down the lateral angles.. The chip was unplayable. Notice you are the only one arguing all of this..
As for the CR goals, the only one I would say Ince couldve done better on was the one he got a hand to, because they say once u get a hand on a ball u supposed to be able to save it. But with that said, let us not forget that is Tallest that lay it on a platter for the CR man to leggo a point blank bullet and Ince did well to get across.
What Ince brings is experience, reflexes, command of the pk box and shot stopping ability. I too find he does overdo it with the buffing, but he's the best thing we have between the sticks right now.
We do not have a goalkeeper problem, when last have we seen a silly goalkeeper error where we can attach full blame for the defeat? Yuh dont drop your goalkeeper save for loss of form or confidence.
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Maybe JC ketch a zeppo dat Latas say de only way Darryl Roberts makin de team is as a goalie hence de attack on Ince... ;D
Anyway JC...I jes kicksin eh....nex ting yuh sayin my heart dark, yuh do meh sumting in de past and Iz a hatah and ting... ;D
Hoss yuh heart dark dread :D
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I tinkin more like:
Jones
Roberts
Hyland Tinto
Birchall
Daniel Edwards
James Abu Bakr
Thomas
Phillip(for d future)
Not a bad squad. Many of us on here would like to see T&T shed the old legs, but the youth ain't up to it breds.
Add Jaggy tuh this squad
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Whats the explanation for the Thomas exclusion and Dog inclusion from the back line?
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Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance,
Madness, that shot was unstoppable. Ince was not out of position nor did he react late.
Watch how much the ball dip right before it reach our goalpost!
The shot had dip, swerve, power, and it was on target. No keeper was savin dat.
The shot from Bahrain was closer in, about 10 yards closer than the shot from last night.
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Our best team would be...
Phillip
Edwards-------Keyeno------Jloyd-------Avery
Tinto---------Birchall-------Hyland------Daniel
Jones------Zamora
Subs..Scotland...Glen...Samuel....Lawrence--James--Williams
Dis team would go places if we had a coach wit d balls to pick them.
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance, that's the awareness of ah keeper. that mexican goal was not in no dam V either! it was a little bit too ince right, he got caught off his line and that's pretty much it.
goals ince coulda save. first bermuda game when he stayed on the ground waiting for the ref tuh blow his whistle.
the el salvador goal 2nd goal.
josy altidor's 3rd goal the hatric maker.
the last two goals VS costa rica! and last nights two goals!
it's 10 goals the man concede in 4 games bro!! come on !! get real, that is un acceptable!
IMO, it only have about 3 keepers i know on the planet who was saving that bullet...
Casillas, Cech and Julio Cruz.. I eh even think man like Van de sar, friedel and howard was getting up and flying across to palm that away with dey old self.
I think yuh mean Julio Cesar :D
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
Breds i watch the goals till ah was sick !! the man got caught napping, the fella took that shot about 45 yards out, no way that shot shoulda beat him.
on the last play against bahrain, kelvin jack saved ah simular shot from the same distance, that's the awareness of ah keeper. that mexican goal was not in no dam V either! it was a little bit too ince right, he got caught off his line and that's pretty much it.
goals ince coulda save. first bermuda game when he stayed on the ground waiting for the ref tuh blow his whistle.
the el salvador goal 2nd goal.
josy altidor's 3rd goal the hatric maker.
the last two goals VS costa rica! and last nights two goals!
it's 10 goals the man concede in 4 games bro!! come on !! get real, that is un acceptable!
IMO, it only have about 3 keepers i know on the planet who was saving that bullet...
Casillas, Cech and Julio Cruz.. I eh even think man like Van de sar, friedel and howard was getting up and flying across to palm that away with dey old self.
I think yuh mean Julio Cesar :D
daz like the 3rd time ah make that mistake...lol
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ince on that first goal (and in similar situations in the past) does not come out with full intention.
he must decide if he coming out.. to do so.
Never an Ince fan and never will be. But they man stood out last night.
BTW.. controvesial, have you seen enough of Jag to make those claims? Or you just supporting the indian name? ;)
KEEP - Hislop home - period!
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Which is why it always amazes me when he gets subbed e.g. against El Salvador. Notice we lost the game after he left
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
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The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men.
young stars??????
what young stars he talking bout.
he is a foreigner.
isn't dat how some of us feel bout foreigners???? dey don't know what dey talkin bout?????
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
I agree, but you can't make a straight comparison though because Birchall isn't in Makalele's class- Maka doesn't lose the ball and has impeccable passing, but yes, Birchall should play the exact same clean up defensive mid role as Makalele for TnT, that's crucial for us, but he still has alot to improve on though. I feel with the toughness Birchall in a strict defensive mid role would bring, we would be more comfortable straight replacing Yorke with Hyland- who I think SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD.
Hyland and Tinto are 2 of top level youths, and I feel Keon Daniel would be in there with them if he was played in central midfield. Look at Iniesta's performance on the wing against Chelsea in the CL semis vs his performance in central midfield vs Man Utd in the finals- he performed respectably vs Chelsea- but against ManU he was UNPLAYABLE, and looked like a superhuman footballer. That shows how much of a player's ability can be hidden by playing them out of position. I have a good feeling Keon Daniel will be great in attacking midfield.
Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Also- INCE HAS BEEN BRILLIANT FOR US in the past few matches. He was the best player by far on the field in the Azteca- goal.com agrees with me too- he got a rating of 8, the highest any other player got was 6 I think(Tinto got 6, he would be rated higher if he got the ball more) Many top international nation don't even have a keeper of Ince's quality, when you look at some of the goals their keepers concede. We have some very good players to build on, and I'm sure that Latapy will maximize them and put out the best team that can win matches- based on the BIG improvement we've seen so far. I'm excited to see how the team will look in August, because he already has them playing so much better in the little time he's had all of them together.
I hope Jlloyd Samuel and Zamora are available for August- that would be great, especially Jlloyd.
Ince
Carlos Keyeno Jlloyd Avery
Birchall
Tinto Spann Keon Daniel Hyland
Stern John
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
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I agree, but you can't make a straight comparison though because Birchall isn't in Makalele's class- Maka doesn't lose the ball and has impeccable passing, but yes, Birchall should play the exact same clean up defensive mid role as Makalele for TnT, that's crucial for us, but he still has alot to improve on though. I feel with the toughness Birchall in a strict defensive mid role would bring, we would be more comfortable straight replacing Yorke with Hyland- who I think SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD.
Hyland and Tinto are 2 of top level youths, and I feel Keon Daniel would be in there with them if he was played in central midfield. Look at Iniesta's performance on the wing against Chelsea in the CL semis vs his performance in central midfield vs Man Utd in the finals- he performed respectably vs Chelsea- but against ManU he was UNPLAYABLE, and looked like a superhuman footballer. That shows how much of a player's ability can be hidden by playing them out of position. I have a good feeling Keon Daniel will be great in attacking midfield.
Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Also- INCE HAS BEEN BRILLIANT FOR US in the past few matches. He was the best player by far on the field in the Azteca- goal.com agrees with me too- he got a rating of 8, the highest any other player got was 6 I think(Tinto got 6, he would be rated higher if he got the ball more) Many top international nation don't even have a keeper of Ince's quality, when you look at some of the goals their keepers concede. We have some very good players to build on, and I'm sure that Latapy will maximize them and put out the best team that can win matches- based on the BIG improvement we've seen so far. I'm excited to see how the team will look in August, because he already has them playing so much better in the little time he's had all of them together.
I hope Jlloyd Samuel and Zamora are available for August- that would be great, especially Jlloyd.
Ince
Carlos Keyeno Jlloyd Avery
Birchall
Tinto Spann Keon Daniel Hyland
Stern John
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
I like dis post :beermug:
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thanks lefty :):beermug:
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Someone please tell Latapy the honeymoon over- The marriage has started. Ask any woman- Results matter.
How are you making this team better and what are you bringing to the table.
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Good team Peter,
But Stern I dont agree with. although I value his presence and comitment, and 69 goals alot, he doesnt really appear to me to be at his best at the moment. Blanco for eg. got dropped, and it was only wen he started playing well in MLS den he got recalled (also Beckham, Dinho etc...)
Also, Keyno isnt better than either Tallest or Dog...and Khaleem is a central midfielder
Looks lkie a good team for the future though, we just need either jan Williams or Phillip to go 2 a foreign club and improve... :beermug:
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I agree, but you can't make a straight comparison though because Birchall isn't in Makalele's class- Maka doesn't lose the ball and has impeccable passing, but yes, Birchall should play the exact same clean up defensive mid role as Makalele for TnT, that's crucial for us, but he still has alot to improve on though. I feel with the toughness Birchall in a strict defensive mid role would bring, we would be more comfortable straight replacing Yorke with Hyland- who I think SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD.
Hyland and Tinto are 2 of top level youths, and I feel Keon Daniel would be in there with them if he was played in central midfield. Look at Iniesta's performance on the wing against Chelsea in the CL semis vs his performance in central midfield vs Man Utd in the finals- he performed respectably vs Chelsea- but against ManU he was UNPLAYABLE, and looked like a superhuman footballer. That shows how much of a player's ability can be hidden by playing them out of position. I have a good feeling Keon Daniel will be great in attacking midfield.
Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Also- INCE HAS BEEN BRILLIANT FOR US in the past few matches. He was the best player by far on the field in the Azteca- goal.com agrees with me too- he got a rating of 8, the highest any other player got was 6 I think(Tinto got 6, he would be rated higher if he got the ball more) Many top international nation don't even have a keeper of Ince's quality, when you look at some of the goals their keepers concede. We have some very good players to build on, and I'm sure that Latapy will maximize them and put out the best team that can win matches- based on the BIG improvement we've seen so far. I'm excited to see how the team will look in August, because he already has them playing so much better in the little time he's had all of them together.
I hope Jlloyd Samuel and Zamora are available for August- that would be great, especially Jlloyd.
Ince
Carlos Keyeno Jlloyd Avery
Birchall
Tinto Spann Keon Daniel Hyland
Stern John
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
I like dis post :beermug:
I like this team line up.
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Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
Totally agree , could not help but :banginghead: the location of that free-kick was tailor-made for a left -footed strike with the ability to dip at the end. Look at where the goalkeeper positioned himself, he was prepared for Carlos as he covered the far post, I am sure he was aware of Carlos's goal in Tobago. Carlos is a flat ball striker whereas Keon has the ability to bend and dip with pace. This was a missed opportunity and Latas has to address this issue of senior players pulling rank over the junior players ,especially with freekicks from the mid to right side of the penalty area where Keon has a natural advantage.
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Peter, I think that mf is too soft. T&T needs to always start Birchie and Trent Noel to protect our back 4. Spann is a great sub for Trent as he is probably a little better in attack and can take a wicked freekick. But we need the intensity and organization of Birchie and Trent to start games imo. Keon looks like he could be something, but I wouldn't play him in the middle yet..he needs too much time on the ball even when he is in space, and that is not going to change by putting him in central midfield. Your analogy with Iniesta makes sense in general, except you judge the Spaniard off one game...over the season you'd see Iniesta has been brilliant in a number of posisitons for Barca....but I know that wasn't your main point.
Darryl Roberts should be starting ahead of K. Daniel. More speed, more hustle, better in an around the goal. Just a better two way player than K Daniel from what I've seen. K Daniel in off the bench. I agree to that he must take any free kicks in and around the right side of the area (if you facing the goal). That is tailored or left footers. But in this instance I can't blame carlos for wanting it...after all..de man score a similar goal against CR..it was further out, but same angle.
I'd take a chance with Hyland in front of Yorkie and bring in Yorke to close out games.
But I like your squad. We cyah all agree :beermug:
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
I agree, but you can't make a straight comparison though because Birchall isn't in Makalele's class- Maka doesn't lose the ball and has impeccable passing, but yes, Birchall should play the exact same clean up defensive mid role as Makalele for TnT, that's crucial for us, but he still has alot to improve on though. I feel with the toughness Birchall in a strict defensive mid role would bring, we would be more comfortable straight replacing Yorke with Hyland- who I think SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD.
Hyland and Tinto are 2 of top level youths, and I feel Keon Daniel would be in there with them if he was played in central midfield. Look at Iniesta's performance on the wing against Chelsea in the CL semis vs his performance in central midfield vs Man Utd in the finals- he performed respectably vs Chelsea- but against ManU he was UNPLAYABLE, and looked like a superhuman footballer. That shows how much of a player's ability can be hidden by playing them out of position. I have a good feeling Keon Daniel will be great in attacking midfield.
Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Also- INCE HAS BEEN BRILLIANT FOR US in the past few matches. He was the best player by far on the field in the Azteca- goal.com agrees with me too- he got a rating of 8, the highest any other player got was 6 I think(Tinto got 6, he would be rated higher if he got the ball more) Many top international nation don't even have a keeper of Ince's quality, when you look at some of the goals their keepers concede. We have some very good players to build on, and I'm sure that Latapy will maximize them and put out the best team that can win matches- based on the BIG improvement we've seen so far. I'm excited to see how the team will look in August, because he already has them playing so much better in the little time he's had all of them together.
I hope Jlloyd Samuel and Zamora are available for August- that would be great, especially Jlloyd.
Ince
Carlos Keyeno Jlloyd Avery
Birchall
Tinto Spann Keon Daniel Hyland
Stern John
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
I agree, but you can't make a straight comparison though because Birchall isn't in Makalele's class- Maka doesn't lose the ball and has impeccable passing, but yes, Birchall should play the exact same clean up defensive mid role as Makalele for TnT, that's crucial for us, but he still has alot to improve on though. I feel with the toughness Birchall in a strict defensive mid role would bring, we would be more comfortable straight replacing Yorke with Hyland- who I think SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD.
Birchall has his limitations, but he should be a starter in the DM position. Latas has to find a way to create a diamond formation in the midfield with Hyland, Birchall and Roberts/Daniel
As great as Makalele was, he could not make a proper pass over 10yards... ;D
Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Edwards took the free kick because he scored from a similar position in the CR game. I reckon he fancied his chances again and was not far off ...But you are right that Daniel should be taking alot more of the free kicks. :beermug: :beermug:
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Its time they drop all the foreign based, too old and slow, not up to par in the intl game. The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men. I agree, the only person who is older who could add anything of substance to that impotent midfield is latas, no one else.
If jones doesnt have a creative mid to service him during the match, he shouldnt start, its pointless, a fellah like roberts should be there starting bc he runs at the defense, he can actually create and dribble. We dont have any wingers delivering quality crosses into jones, so why is he starting? Bc hes an epl starter? bullshit.
In fact, a fellah like jagdeo can do better than birchall and is a potential offensive threat at that, with tinto on the wing, edwards needs to realize that hes a bonified right back, its his natural position, he has the speed, the passing and the hustle to play the part well.
I hope we can get glen back and roberts bc they are needed, if we get samuel and zamora, even better.
Ince
edwards thomas samuel pacheco
jagdeosingh/noel
tinto spann zamora daniel
roberts
subs:
abu bakr, adams, javed mohammed, jones, glen, yohance marshall, james, guerra, hyland
allyuh can add, its time the team get some young legs to start running and playing real football
Jagdeosingh aint a striker for Puerto Rico islanders?
and he been lookin good there too
how he and Findley AND Julius not being considered i dont know
And findley can be called up since he won his only cap with the US in a friendly!
Latas!!!! doh stik!!
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Ince
Samuels
James Avery
C. Edwards
Birchall
Noel Jaggy
Tinto
John
Jones
Subs: J.M. Phillip, R. Abu-Bakr, K. Thomas, A. Edwards, K. Daniel, K. Hyland, D. Roberts, C. Glen, L. Peltier
Over the next few years this should be our team with the older players being replaced by the time next campaigns qualifications begin. By then Jan should have come of age and be ready to take the reigns from Ince. Hyland can move to replace Trent, Roberts/ Peltier by then should replace Stern, (if Jones shows no end product whether at fault or not) Glen/Baptiste/Peltier replace Jones. Guerra should by then be a regular competing for a midfield spot. Yohance Marshall should be competing for a starting nod or have replaced Thomas on the bench. If Aklie improves enough he should assume LB position or be an LM sub (when needed). Primus should by then be competing for a spot along with Da Silva and Leston Paul. Don't see Hislop improving enough but if he does his height and size would be valuable in central defense.
I honestly think we have a good crop of younger players but they need to be exposed. If we never expose them they'll never be ready when we need them. Granted now is not the best time to do so, but they should be continuosly invited to the camps to compete for places on the current squad.
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Tell him. Without Birchall, we would have been about two more in the hole. That fella is unrelenting. Didn't get to push up as far up the field as he would have liekd against Mexico, but nevertheless, a very crucial link between the defence and midfield. Wouldn't replace him for the world, and I expect him to be ini better shape as he starts with LA.
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Tell him. Without Birchall, we would have been about two more in the hole. That fella is unrelenting. Didn't get to push up as far up the field as he would have liekd against Mexico, but nevertheless, a very crucial link between the defence and midfield. Wouldn't replace him for the world, and I expect him to be ini better shape as he starts with LA.
Man does ha amnesia after games so they don't remember his contribution to the games
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Tell him. Without Birchall, we would have been about two more in the hole. That fella is unrelenting. Didn't get to push up as far up the field as he would have liekd against Mexico, but nevertheless, a very crucial link between the defence and midfield. Wouldn't replace him for the world, and I expect him to be ini better shape as he starts with LA.
Man does ha amnesia after games so they don't remember his contribution to the games
Plus he cyah beats.
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Tell him. Without Birchall, we would have been about two more in the hole. That fella is unrelenting. Didn't get to push up as far up the field as he would have liekd against Mexico, but nevertheless, a very crucial link between the defence and midfield. Wouldn't replace him for the world, and I expect him to be ini better shape as he starts with LA.
Man does ha amnesia after games so they don't remember his contribution to the games
Plus he cyah beats.
And just run wile wile.
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quick question... what's jaggy's stats so far for the season? ::)
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quick question... what's jaggy's stats so far for the season? ::)
Since when that makes a difference? What is Glen and Noels? Noel has been demoted to UPs reserve team and yet he is easily one of Latas most valuable players so far.
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drop jones
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quick question... what's jaggy's stats so far for the season? ::)
Since when that makes a difference? What is Glen and Noels? Noel has been demoted to UPs reserve team and yet he is easily one of Latas most valuable players so far.
In fairness.....dahs not a performance issue...is a personality issue. He a man deserve his place based on performance.
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Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
Totally agree , could not help but :banginghead: the location of that free-kick was tailor-made for a left -footed strike with the ability to dip at the end. Look at where the goalkeeper positioned himself, he was prepared for Carlos as he covered the far post, I am sure he was aware of Carlos's goal in Tobago. Carlos is a flat ball striker whereas Keon has the ability to bend and dip with pace. This was a missed opportunity and Latas has to address this issue of senior players pulling rank over the junior players ,especially with freekicks from the mid to right side of the penalty area where Keon has a natural advantage.
Because maybe Carlos just came off a game scoring a FK from similar position.
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Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
Totally agree , could not help but :banginghead: the location of that free-kick was tailor-made for a left -footed strike with the ability to dip at the end. Look at where the goalkeeper positioned himself, he was prepared for Carlos as he covered the far post, I am sure he was aware of Carlos's goal in Tobago. Carlos is a flat ball striker whereas Keon has the ability to bend and dip with pace. This was a missed opportunity and Latas has to address this issue of senior players pulling rank over the junior players ,especially with freekicks from the mid to right side of the penalty area where Keon has a natural advantage.
Because maybe Carlos just came off a game scoring a FK from similar position.
Maybe Carlos should have realized that he was scouted.
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wha it is wid everybody singing praises to Birchall, yuh would think he's de best ting since slice friggin bread ;)
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TI , ince is sh!t bredder! the man played 4 games in the hex and conceded 10 goals. yuh see dem two goals we conceded last night, i fully believe williams woulda save them, that and @ least two of the goals he conceded in tobago.
i watch all his games, and all he does do is bark and querrel every time ah ball come his way.
Are you kidding me? What could he have done on the 2nd goal.....face facts it was an OUTSTANDING shot. Ince is a valid 6ft 4" keeper and layed all out and you want him to save that goal? The ball went where no keeper could have gotten it... none, no keeper....nada....
I agree he does yell at men too much though and sometimes for no apparent reason.
yea, that becoming real annoying to watch. but sometimes d yellin at d players is justified eh, like how he do yorke las nite
De look on Yorke face make mih feel sorry for him but ah wanted to laugh at the same time....he look like when you get a good bouff from yuh mammie.... ;D
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
No Patriot you are not the only one who saw that. Except Birchall tackled the Mexican causing him to turn around and make a horrible back pass which Tinto intercepted. The ball came off the Mexican not Birchall but if it were not for Birchall hustling him he would not have been under pressure to make the sloppy back pass.
I will also never forget that it was Birchall who started the play that resulted in the 1st goal against the US last October. Similar thing, hustle the US player take away the ball and pass it to Latapy...
Some one mentioned him getting subbed in the El Salvador game....uuummm who was the coach back den?....oh right the great tactician with plenty experience....ah eh goh even bother to type he name... ::)
Big up Birchall!!... :beermug: :notworthy:
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Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
Totally agree , could not help but :banginghead: the location of that free-kick was tailor-made for a left -footed strike with the ability to dip at the end. Look at where the goalkeeper positioned himself, he was prepared for Carlos as he covered the far post, I am sure he was aware of Carlos's goal in Tobago. Carlos is a flat ball striker whereas Keon has the ability to bend and dip with pace. This was a missed opportunity and Latas has to address this issue of senior players pulling rank over the junior players ,especially with freekicks from the mid to right side of the penalty area where Keon has a natural advantage.
Because maybe Carlos just came off a game scoring a FK from similar position.
Maybe Carlos should have realized that he was scouted.
yuh right...since he scored in the previous game he shoulda automatically think he was scouted and not take anymore free kicks for the rest of the hex ::)
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Its time they drop all the foreign based, too old and slow, not up to par in the intl game. The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men. I agree, the only person who is older who could add anything of substance to that impotent midfield is latas, no one else.
If jones doesnt have a creative mid to service him during the match, he shouldnt start, its pointless, a fellah like roberts should be there starting bc he runs at the defense, he can actually create and dribble. We dont have any wingers delivering quality crosses into jones, so why is he starting? Bc hes an epl starter? bullshit.
In fact, a fellah like jagdeo can do better than birchall and is a potential offensive threat at that, with tinto on the wing, edwards needs to realize that hes a bonified right back, its his natural position, he has the speed, the passing and the hustle to play the part well.
I hope we can get glen back and roberts bc they are needed, if we get samuel and zamora, even better.
Ince
edwards thomas samuel pacheco
jagdeosingh/noel
tinto spann zamora daniel
roberts
subs:
abu bakr, adams, javed mohammed, jones, glen, yohance marshall, james, guerra, hyland
allyuh can add, its time the team get some young legs to start running and playing real football
nice thread TI - i agree that de crossing has been weak. does dis side fix dat problem?
as for memum, iz simple: no birchall, no brazil.
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Its time they drop all the foreign based, too old and slow, not up to par in the intl game. The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men. I agree, the only person who is older who could add anything of substance to that impotent midfield is latas, no one else.
If jones doesnt have a creative mid to service him during the match, he shouldnt start, its pointless, a fellah like roberts should be there starting bc he runs at the defense, he can actually create and dribble. We dont have any wingers delivering quality crosses into jones, so why is he starting? Bc hes an epl starter? bullshit.
In fact, a fellah like jagdeo can do better than birchall and is a potential offensive threat at that, with tinto on the wing, edwards needs to realize that hes a bonified right back, its his natural position, he has the speed, the passing and the hustle to play the part well.
I hope we can get glen back and roberts bc they are needed, if we get samuel and zamora, even better.
Ince
edwards thomas samuel pacheco
jagdeosingh/noel
tinto spann zamora daniel
roberts
subs:
abu bakr, adams, javed mohammed, jones, glen, yohance marshall, james, guerra, hyland
allyuh can add, its time the team get some young legs to start running and playing real football
nice thread TI - i agree that de crossing has been weak. does dis side fix dat problem?
as for memum, iz simple: no birchall, no brazil.
actually it may, if you switch spann with tinto and let tinto become a central mid and let spann try his hand at crosses, however jones needs it from both sides and daniel is a dribbler not a crosser, so the crossing will still be an issue, thats why its better to play roberts or glen instead of jones, bc they will run and dribble, all they need is good service from the mid and they will create, thats the difference.
What people need to realize is that trinidad can't play the crossing brand of football bc we dont have wingers with pin point accuracy, thats why we need to play a striker who can run at the defense, a dribbler.
our natural game is the short passing brand of football, plain and simple, the players may play in england but that brand hasnt gotten us anywhere. putting the ball on the ground and running is our game. the supporters need to realize that our english strikers have become so accustom to getting service from the wings in the epl that if they dont get this service they are useless, wcq is a different game all together, jones needs to swallow his pride and take a back seat, as a team we must know our limitations and strengths.
the supporters we have are trying to force a brand on the national team that is not working and isnt feasible.
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
No Patriot you are not the only one who saw that. Except Birchall tackled the Mexican causing him to turn around and make a horrible back pass which Tinto intercepted. The ball came off the Mexican not Birchall but if it were not for Birchall hustling him he would not have been under pressure to make the sloppy back pass.
I will also never forget that it was Birchall who started the play that resulted in the 1st goal against the US last October. Similar thing, hustle the US player take away the ball and pass it to Latapy...
Some one mentioned him getting subbed in the El Salvador game....uuummm who was the coach back den?....oh right the great tactician with plenty experience....ah eh goh even bother to type he name... ::)
Big up Birchall!!... :beermug: :notworthy:
I think Birchie found Carlos first...and Carlos crossed to Latas to score. Something like that...I just remember carlos had the cross in to latas...Birchie did the hard work in the earlies and made a nice run..Not sure if anyone else was involved.
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Nah Filho, it was Birchall to Latapy in the middle of the field who made a typical Latapy pick-out-de-player-perfectly-pass to Carlos on the wing....he (Latapy) continued to run into the box along with Carlos.
Carlos then lifted the ball over the heads of about four US players to find Latapy who in turn found de net....
sweet, sweet, sweet from start to finish... :beermug:
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Allyuh making this guy sound like cafo. the fella ahite, but he's no lampard, and cant pass & screen ah ball tuh save his life.
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Allyuh making this guy sound like cafo. the fella ahite, but he's no lampard, and cant pass & screen ah ball tuh save his life.
Of course he's no Lampard, I can't remember any forumite saying he was. However, until we find other players who could run the full 90, fight and hustle like he can, den leave him right there...
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Nah Filho, it was Birchall to Latapy in the middle of the field who made a typical Latapy pick-out-de-player-perfectly-pass to Carlos on the wing....he (Latapy) continued to run into the box along with Carlos.
Carlos then lifted the ball over the heads of about four US players to find Latapy who in turn found de net....
sweet, sweet, sweet from start to finish... :beermug:
true dat..I though you were saying it was Birchie to Latas and then goal. I was just saying I remember Carlos was involved in de play as well. Now I reread you post I realize you were just calling it up to the end of Birchie's involvement in the play...
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Allyuh making this guy sound like cafo. the fella ahite, but he's no lampard, and cant pass & screen ah ball tuh save his life.
To be honest..everyone really only praises Birchie for 2 things..his workrate and his shooting. But your statement about passing is untrue. Birchie is the only mf in the squad I see who successfully makes good driven cross field passes. Gives an added range to our mf passing.
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Nah Filho, it was Birchall to Latapy in the middle of the field who made a typical Latapy pick-out-de-player-perfectly-pass to Carlos on the wing....he (Latapy) continued to run into the box along with Carlos.
Carlos then lifted the ball over the heads of about four US players to find Latapy who in turn found de net....
sweet, sweet, sweet from start to finish... :beermug:
YUh missing the part where Scoland make the run across the box dragiing the defenders with him to free up Latapy.
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Another thing too- KEON DANIEL SHOULD BE THE DESIGNATED FREEKICK TAKER IF HE'S ON THE FIELD. The man has proven himself to be the best freekick taker we have, and prob among the top 3 in our history- why the hell did Carlos(who is our best player for years now still) take that freekick around the Mexican pen area in the 2nd half- he pushed Keon away from the ball after he had lined it up, and proceeded to blast the ball into the far post of the imaginary goal next to the real one. I'm sure Keon would have at least gotten that on target. That is the same shit that caused the pen miss in EL Salvador- and why we only have 2 pts instead of 4.
Keon Daniel is the designated taker of ALL set peices.
Totally agree , could not help but :banginghead: the location of that free-kick was tailor-made for a left -footed strike with the ability to dip at the end. Look at where the goalkeeper positioned himself, he was prepared for Carlos as he covered the far post, I am sure he was aware of Carlos's goal in Tobago. Carlos is a flat ball striker whereas Keon has the ability to bend and dip with pace. This was a missed opportunity and Latas has to address this issue of senior players pulling rank over the junior players ,especially with freekicks from the mid to right side of the penalty area where Keon has a natural advantage.
Because maybe Carlos just came off a game scoring a FK from similar position.
Maybe Carlos should have realized that he was scouted.
He came real close to scoring again just missing wide, not a bad effort at at. If he wa scouted then the Mexicans do a very poor job of setting the wall cause the ball went right through and the GK had to make a last ditch effort to get across goal. I believe if it was couple inches closer Mexico would have been in real trouble.
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Birchall is huge value add to the squad dread... Maybe not your kind of player but when he's on the field our level of energy and intensity is higher and better. He's an unsung work horse whose efforts can easily go unnoticed...He covers a tremendous amount of ground and he's one of the few players with the grit needed in the int'l game- last night he was tireless...and made some fearless crucial recoveries at the back- (one that first comes to mind is the saving defensive lunge where he risked his body to force the attacker to head wide under pressure)....
Jagdeo has a different set of gifts perphaps, but Kendall is not better than Birchall dread..absolutely not.
Last night on at least three times Birchall cover both Yorke and Daniel. Tracking down dem man way on the other side of the midfield, tackling and winning the ball.
Am I the ONLY one who saw that it was Birchall who tackled the Mexican and toe-poke the ball for Tinto to score? You need BOTH piano MOVERs as well as Piano PLAYERS for a concert... Birchall is to T&T what Makelele was to Chelsea, the man who does the dirty work to free up the creative players to do their job... Real Madrid didn't see Maka's value either...UNTIL he left
No Patriot you are not the only one who saw that. Except Birchall tackled the Mexican causing him to turn around and make a horrible back pass which Tinto intercepted. The ball came off the Mexican not Birchall but if it were not for Birchall hustling him he would not have been under pressure to make the sloppy back pass.
I will also never forget that it was Birchall who started the play that resulted in the 1st goal against the US last October. Similar thing, hustle the US player take away the ball and pass it to Latapy...
Some one mentioned him getting subbed in the El Salvador game....uuummm who was the coach back den?....oh right the great tactician with plenty experience....ah eh goh even bother to type he name... ::)
Big up Birchall!!... :beermug: :notworthy:
Palos u sleepin
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Allyuh making this guy sound like cafo. the fella ahite, but he's no lampard, and cant pass & screen ah ball tuh save his life.
Of course he's no Lampard, I can't remember any forumite saying he was. However, until we find other players who could run the full 90, fight and hustle like he can, den leave him right there...
We do have such ah player! his name is darryl roberts. not only does he have skills, ball controll and passing ability, he also scores.
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Allyuh making this guy sound like cafo. the fella ahite, but he's no lampard, and cant pass & screen ah ball tuh save his life.
Of course he's no Lampard, I can't remember any forumite saying he was. However, until we find other players who could run the full 90, fight and hustle like he can, den leave him right there...
We do have such ah player! his name is darryl roberts. not only does he have skills, ball controll and passing ability, he also scores.
try telling that my breddah to the scotland fans, who believe hes quality, imho hes a hound in intl football that is
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JC your probably making Roberts one worried yute eh lol ,cause when he returns he better score orplay real good ,cause palos alone go start ah tread for we ,especially you doh .
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Darryl Roberts at about a 9 on de MarquisMeter right now.
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Its time they drop all the foreign based, too old and slow, not up to par in the intl game. The costa rican commentator made an excellent point in the last game, why the hell tt dont play their young stars and drop these old men. I agree, the only person who is older who could add anything of substance to that impotent midfield is latas, no one else.
If jones doesnt have a creative mid to service him during the match, he shouldnt start, its pointless, a fellah like roberts should be there starting bc he runs at the defense, he can actually create and dribble. We dont have any wingers delivering quality crosses into jones, so why is he starting? Bc hes an epl starter? bullshit.
In fact, a fellah like jagdeo can do better than birchall and is a potential offensive threat at that, with tinto on the wing, edwards needs to realize that hes a bonified right back, its his natural position, he has the speed, the passing and the hustle to play the part well.
I hope we can get glen back and roberts bc they are needed, if we get samuel and zamora, even better.
Ince
edwards thomas samuel pacheco
jagdeosingh/noel
tinto spann zamora daniel
roberts
subs:
abu bakr, adams, javed mohammed, jones, glen, yohance marshall, james, guerra, hyland
allyuh can add, its time the team get some young legs to start running and playing real football
nice thread TI - i agree that de crossing has been weak. does dis side fix dat problem?
as for memum, iz simple: no birchall, no brazil.
actually it may, if you switch spann with tinto and let tinto become a central mid and let spann try his hand at crosses, however jones needs it from both sides and daniel is a dribbler not a crosser, so the crossing will still be an issue, thats why its better to play roberts or glen instead of jones, bc they will run and dribble, all they need is good service from the mid and they will create, thats the difference.
What people need to realize is that trinidad can't play the crossing brand of football bc we dont have wingers with pin point accuracy, thats why we need to play a striker who can run at the defense, a dribbler.
our natural game is the short passing brand of football, plain and simple, the players may play in england but that brand hasnt gotten us anywhere. putting the ball on the ground and running is our game. the supporters need to realize that our english strikers have become so accustom to getting service from the wings in the epl that if they dont get this service they are useless, wcq is a different game all together, jones needs to swallow his pride and take a back seat, as a team we must know our limitations and strengths.
the supporters we have are trying to force a brand on the national team that is not working and isnt feasible.
ah hear yuh with regards to playing within a player's capabilities. it may be "natural" in that it is what de current crop of footballers can perform. but let's hope it's not a "brand" - that make it sound like is by design when it is really a limitation. ah mean, wingers that cyah cross is not a brand, is a problem. t&t has had decent crossers in de past, so is not historical. let's see if latas make de short passing game happen.
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Darryl Roberts at about a 9 on de MarquisMeter right now.
Breds not only do i lobby for darryl, i also lobby for jagdeosingh, julius james, and whitley. i often defend KJ when ppl want his head on a platter, stern as well.
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JC your probably making Roberts one worried yute eh lol ,cause when he returns he better score orplay real good ,cause palos alone go start ah tread for we ,especially you doh .
Breds i doh big up roberts more than some ppl here big up birchall. and if darryl got an opportunity and fail, then say what,
look how much opportunity aklie and keon got and they didn't come through, they got far more chances than roberts ever got tuh represent the team in qualifying.
BTW breds, i don't think roberts will flop, and if he don't score , i believe he will free up others tuh score, but i'm of the oppinion that he will score if given the opportunity.
it's the same sentiment i had about tinto, when man including all kinda players on their make up team they never thought tuh include tinto, now everybody catching tinto fever.
but when i saw the fella played , i said this guy is ah big asset to the team, but dunce ass pancho played tinto like darryl and dumped him for all kinda bums like leon, wolf, aklie and tousant. it have real talent in the team, but the big boys don't know how tuh use them, too bad , we could really do some damage in concacaf with the right players.
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I agree with JC. Is time Roberts get a call. Quickly. The season finished, so he don't have to worry about club issues.
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jones need a rst to let he go back to england and pretend to be star boy and he will soon face reality that u have to actually be able to play football at some point. or the hype will fade. atleast learn some ball control
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring. Everybody just mad at him not scoing. And yes I can understand. But the people, who calling for his head, must understand that for KJ to play well our midfield defficienies must be eliminated. Our attacking and defensive mids are weak.
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring. Everybody just mad at him not scoing. And yes I can understand. But the people, who calling for his head, must understand that for KJ to play well our midfield defficienies must be eliminated. Our attacking and defensive mids are weak.
So what easier changing like 7 mids or one striker ?
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring. Everybody just mad at him not scoing. And yes I can understand. But the people, who calling for his head, must understand that for KJ to play well our midfield defficienies must be eliminated. Our attacking and defensive mids are weak.
So what easier changing like 7 mids or one striker ?
Matters not who strikin if d midfield is crap.
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring. Everybody just mad at him not scoing. And yes I can understand. But the people, who calling for his head, must understand that for KJ to play well our midfield defficienies must be eliminated. Our attacking and defensive mids are weak.
So what easier changing like 7 mids or one striker ?
Matters not who strikin if d midfield is crap.
I must agree! People not realizing that Scotty firing on all cylinders fuh almost 3 years but struggles in the NT, KJ is a feared threat by all opponents in CONCACAF and many clubs in the EPL, yet he can't net for us. Stern is our best ever scorer and he hasn't produced in some time. It can't be that all of a sudden all of our regular forwards are shittongs and can't score.
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Whew....the appearance of sense I was hoping for in this thread like it finally appearing!
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Is not the mids ,is the strikers Jason and KJ .There defenders tell us there weakess ,no servive and for KJ no aerial crosses ,there english type strikers now .We dont have have english type mids to service them ,so we need strikers who could create for them selves ,like Kendall and Roberts <mid > ,or even a man like judah even doh I know he ent ready ,until he work with latas for a few months .
But we cant keep putting all our eggs in the same basket .Jason wanted a chance he got it ,KJ have a spot booked ,yet never no goals ....as for stern he"ll score for us again .
But we need fast dynamic players to pull rabbits out there hats ,then get outta dodge .Not players lumbering up the field failed attempt after fail attempt.
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I would like to see Edwards playing as a center mdfielder.
He routinely gets past 1 or 2 defenders to cross when he on de wing.
But his crosses are usually off.
If he gets past those same 1 or 2 in the middle then he can set up a shot for himself or somebody else, and his shots are much better than his crosses.
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what about something like this,
Ince
spann sancho cyd avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
if we have a nice lead ,sub spann drop back carlos and bring in hyland.And sub jones ,moves roberts up then bring een whitley if hes ready.
If we eint score with that lineup ,i quit.
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what about something like this,
Ince
cyd/ spann sancho dog avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
if we have a nice lead ,sub spann drop back carlos and bring in hyland.And sub jones ,moves roberts up then bring een whitley if hes ready.
If we eint score with that lineup ,i quit.
No team wit Dog is a good team
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what about something like this,
Ince
cyd/ spann sancho dog avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
if we have a nice lead ,sub spann drop back carlos and bring in hyland.And sub jones ,moves roberts up then bring een whitley if hes ready.
If we eint score with that lineup ,i quit.
No team wit Dog is a good team
I know hes my weak spot ,we could try JJ .
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what about something like this,
Ince
cyd/ spann sancho dog avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
if we have a nice lead ,sub spann drop back carlos and bring in hyland.And sub jones ,moves roberts up then bring een whitley if hes ready.
If we eint score with that lineup ,i quit.
No team wit Dog is a good team
I know hes my weak spot ,we could try JJ .
JJ who just get send to d USL. Worse case scenario Dog in Div 1 in Scotland next season.
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Is not the mids ,is the strikers Jason and KJ .There defenders tell us there weakess ,no servive and for KJ no aerial crosses ,there english type strikers now .We dont have have english type mids to service them ,so we need strikers who could create for them selves ,like Kendall and Roberts <mid > ,or even a man like judah even doh I know he ent ready ,until he work with latas for a few months .
But we cant keep putting all our eggs in the same basket .Jason wanted a chance he got it ,KJ have a spot booked ,yet never no goals ....as for stern he"ll score for us again .
But we need fast dynamic players to pull rabbits out there hats ,then get outta dodge .Not players lumbering up the field failed attempt after fail attempt.
Point out 1 big time footballer anywhere in the world who does create for himself today. Look at Scotland, the man movement off the ball is absolutely amazing. His positioning is up there with some of the best. I will get the videos.
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
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what yah want me to tell you ,if he play lone striker with the team I pick there he and all should score pards .
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring.
so he was just walking down an aisle of surepharm and same time an earthquake strike causing a bottle of peroxide fall on he head causing parts of he hair and brain to turn blonde?
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring.
so he was just walking down an aisle of surepharm and same time an earthquake strike causing a bottle of peroxide fall on he head causing parts of he hair and brain to turn blonde?
Allyuh eh bet allyuh schupid bad nah. So he dying one or 2 of his dreads mean he feel he's ah starboy? ::)
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
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what about something like this,
Ince
spann sancho cyd avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
if we have a nice lead ,sub spann drop back carlos and bring in hyland.And sub jones ,moves roberts up then bring een whitley if hes ready.
If we eint score with that lineup ,i quit.
No team wit Dog is a good team
ok I dropped dog...solid defense truout the lineup .
Ince
spann sancho cyd avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto edwards roberts jagdeosingh/Samuel
Jones/Stern
or
Ince
edwards sancho cyd avery
Yorke/Birchall
tinto jagdeosingh Noel Keon/Samuel
roberts /Stern
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Hope fading for South Africa spot
Published: 22 Jun 2009
Now that the “experts” have had their say about T&T’s 2-1 defeat at the hands of Mexico, I wish to put in my two cents. Firstly, let me say I will be happy if Russell Latapy succeeds as coach. He will need all the magic he has to get T&T to South Africa 2010, given the quality of players he can call on.
Some of these players don’t fit the bill. Marvin Andrews, Dwight Yorke and Kenwyne Jones should be told thank you. Goalkeeper Clayton Ince has redeemed himself, thanks to his body and legs blocking out shots. He is now viewed as the hero of the Mexico match, but I still believe he should be given a “thank you” card. I am deeply disappointed that Kenwyne, with all the English hype, has delivered nothing so far. What a shame.
While I still remain optimistic about South Africa, hope is fading.
One more thing: some Trinis are behaving as though we beat Mexico, having come away with a 1-2 loss. These knuckleheads are calling it a win, when the reality is that we lost the match. You can’t beat a Trini for warped thinking, can you?
Keith Anderson
Belmont, PoS
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Ah ha!!...so TI real name is Keith Anderson.... :devil: ;D
Ah eh agree with the comment about Ince though....
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people view the mexico result as good " dont know about the win ting" because we didn't get we ass cut, packaged and shipped back the way many expected we might, so while the result wasn't good in the truest sense, the result far exceeded expectations, anybody who honest, would admit dey had scores like 6-0 and 7-0 hauntin dey dreams before that game.
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To me KJ don't play starboy. The only thing out of the ordiary is his flips after scoring. Everybody just mad at him not scoing. And yes I can understand. But the people, who calling for his head, must understand that for KJ to play well our midfield defficienies must be eliminated. Our attacking and defensive mids are weak.
So what easier changing like 7 mids or one striker ?
Matters not who strikin if d midfield is crap.
I must agree! People not realizing that Scotty firing on all cylinders fuh almost 3 years but struggles in the NT, KJ is a feared threat by all opponents in CONCACAF and many clubs in the EPL, yet he can't net for us. Stern is our best ever scorer and he hasn't produced in some time. It can't be that all of a sudden all of our regular forwards are shittongs and can't score.
And therin lies the Wub...
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people view the mexico result as good " dont know about the win ting" because we didn't get we ass cut, packaged and shipped back the way many expected we might, so while the result wasn't good in the truest sense, the result far exceeded expectations, anybody who honest, would admit dey had scores like 6-0 and 7-0 hauntin dey dreams before that game.
Winnin is all dat matters in these parts. Latas battin 0-2
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
And you is ah big time coach fuh yuh daughters team .............heaven help dem chirren .
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people view the mexico result as good " dont know about the win ting" because we didn't get we ass cut, packaged and shipped back the way many expected we might, so while the result wasn't good in the truest sense, the result far exceeded expectations, anybody who honest, would admit dey had scores like 6-0 and 7-0 hauntin dey dreams before that game.
Winnin is all dat matters in these parts. Latas battin 0-2
Costa Rica is d one I vex bout, Lawrence decision making in particular was ah major stumbling block
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Is Keith Anderson, aka "Radio KCG" on the Raymond Reid basketball courts in the 70's????
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
And you is ah big time coach fuh yuh daughters team .............heaven help dem chirren .
Don't worry in the next year or so I have a couple players heading to the USA National Youth team, yuh will talk about them.
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
And you is ah big time coach fuh yuh daughters team .............heaven help dem chirren .
Don't worry in the next year or so I have a couple players heading to the USA National Youth team, yuh will talk about them.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: yuh trying tuh kill somebody or wha :rotfl:
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
And you is ah big time coach fuh yuh daughters team .............heaven help dem chirren .
Don't worry in the next year or so I have a couple players heading to the USA National Youth team, yuh will talk about them.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: yuh trying tuh kill somebody or wha :rotfl:
Laugh nah man, who laug last laugh best. Laugh all you want it does not change the fact. :beermug:
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Awrite whey yuh dey. Watch the first goal, notice the check, the timing of the check, The angle on recieving the ball, the first touch to take him towards the goal and then the finishing.
Now watch the creation of the PK. The check, withdrawing into the defender blind spot, beating the help on the first touch. The fella have it.
Now what is the difference with him at this club and the NT? We do not exploit these types of areas on the field to create these types of situations for our strikers. We pass the ball to the winger and tell him bambye. We don't create numbers up situations on the wing to try get behind the defenders from a wide position in an effort to pull defenders out of position thus allowing our strikers to insert themselves into these spaces.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=34977.msg555476#msg555476)
You is ah goat boy ,you eh have ah clue, all you do was dramatize dem 2 goal ,de only ting we cud see with yuh 'watch' dis and 'check' dat, is de shit yuh just post above .Stern John is all ah dem boss ,he gehing the same service JS and KJ (for TnT) getting and yet still he score more goal than both ah dem for Country and Club .... all yuh like tuh bum all yuh gum like all yuh is some facking coach .....Stuepppsssssss !!!
Berris you is just are idiot I realize yes.
And you is ah big time coach fuh yuh daughters team .............heaven help dem chirren .
Don't worry in the next year or so I have a couple players heading to the USA National Youth team, yuh will talk about them.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: yuh trying tuh kill somebody or wha :rotfl:
Laugh nah man, who laug last laugh best. Laugh all you want it does not change the fact. :beermug:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Pleeze mods puh dis in de joke section,dis man obviously trying tuh commit mass murder :rotfl: thanx fuh de drink after ah good laugh ah does be tusty :beermug: