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Always thought Donovan was a Sc**t!
Donovan launches book blast at Beckham
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Donovan turned down his own chance to stay in Europe
July 2, 2009
Source: Soccernet.com
David Beckham has come under attack from L.A. Galaxy team-mate Landon Donovan just as he prepares to return for action with the MLS team.
In a new book due out later this month, Donovan claims Beckham has demonstrated little commitment to the Galaxy cause and has been a negative influence on the team since the ousting of former coach Ruud Gullit.
"All that we care about at a minimum is that he committed himself to us," Donovan says in 'The Beckham Experiment', authored by Sports Illustrated writer Grant Wahl.
"As time has gone on, that has not proven to be the case in many ways - on the field, off the field.
"Does the fact that he earns that much more money come into it? Yeah. If someone's paying you more than anybody in the league, more than double anybody in the league, the least we expect is that you show up to every game, whether you are suspended or not. Show up and train hard, show up and play hard."
Donovan, who is the United States captain and wears the Galaxy armband in Beckham's absence, also questioned the former England skipper's leadership abilities, claiming he is too often silent in team meetings.
"Maybe he's not a leader, maybe he's not a captain," he said. "Fair enough. But at a minimum, you should bust your ass every day. That hasn't happened. And I don't think that's too much for us to expect. Especially when he's brought all this on us."
Beckham's first season in MLS was a largely miserable experience. He struggled with injury as an unbalanced Galaxy team struggled all year and missed out on the play-offs, with Gullit quitting before the end of the campaign.
Gullit's departure, which came a little over a month after Beckham's Galaxy debut, is the moment Donovan believes the light went out for the club's marquee player.
"When David first came, I believed he was committed to what he was doing," Donovan said. "He cared. He wanted to do well. He wanted the team and the league to do well.
"Somewhere along the way - and in my mind it coincides with Ruud being let go - he just flipped a switch and said, 'Uh-huh, I'm not doing it anymore'."
Donovan even claimed Beckham is a bad team-mate, because of his lack of commitment.
"He's not shown (he's a good team-mate)," he said. "I can't think of another guy where I'd say he wasn't a good team-mate, he didn't give everything through all this, he didn't still care. But with (Beckham), I'd say no, he wasn't committed."
Beckham pushed for a loan move to AC Milan in January, and then extended it to the point that he missed half of the 2009 MLS season. That served as evidence that he does not care for the league, according to Donovan, who gave up his chance to play in Europe early in his career in order to stay at home.
"My sense is that David's clearly frustrated, that he's unhappy and, honestly, that he thinks it's a joke," he said. "I also kind of feel (he has taken the team) for granted. I don't see dedication or commitment to this team, and that's troubling."
Beckham is due to make his return for the Galaxy against the New York Red Bulls on July 16, two days after Wahl's book is due to be published.
He will line up alongside Donovan in that game, but the striker does not want that to be the case for much longer.
"Let's say he does stay here for three more years," Donovan said. "I'm not going to spend the next three years of my life doing it this way. This is f****** miserable. I don't want to have soccer be this way."
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Palos
Grimm post a excerpt from the book here on mon...the thread get merged though. Its not donovan book but it kinda the same thing.
look the link
How Beckham Blew It
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 05:01:17 PM »
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Here is an excerpt from a book being written about Beckham's time in MLS. I didn't see it posted already so have a look. WARNING: it long, but the behind the scenes wranglings are interesting.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/the_bonus/06/29/beckham.book/index.html?eref=T1
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Donavan seem to be going chroo ah lil jealousy phase. He hadda understand dat is so fitball does go. If Beckam could go Italy and perform, den obviously de MLS might not be de right league for him.... Needless to say, I tink dat Donavan realize dat he is not de big boy nomore.. cyah pull no rank.. And ah realize he is ah boy like plenty attention too (Yuh never see how he does look for de camera when he kicking ah penalty, den stoop dong on de ball, den kiss it, den smile...all dem antics) big steuppesssss...... How yuh goh vex wid Beckam for pouncing on de opportunity to stay longer in Italy? He expect him to want to stay "home" like Donavan..... de US is not home for Beckam, and dat imps hadda realize dat....and doh goh writing book and bitc$ing bout it
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Donavan seem to be going chroo ah lil jealousy phase. He hadda understand dat is so fitball does go. If Beckam could go Italy and perform, den obviously de MLS might not be de right league for him.... Needless to say, I tink dat Donavan realize dat he is not de big boy nomore.. cyah pull no rank.. And ah realize he is ah boy like plenty attention too (Yuh never see how he does look for de camera when he kicking ah penalty, den stoop dong on de ball, den kiss it, den smile...all dem antics) big steuppesssss...... How yuh goh vex wid Beckam for pouncing on de opportunity to stay longer in Italy? He expect him to want to stay "home" like Donavan..... de US is not home for Beckam, and dat imps hadda realize dat....and doh goh writing book and bitc$ing bout it
i feel with this book, he just wanna ride beckham back to have a big payday
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Inexcusable for a player to air dirty laundry to the media in that fashion! Especially when Beckham is still his teammate!!!
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Inexcusable for a player to air dirty laundry to the media in that fashion! Especially when Beckham is still his teammate!!!
Welcome to Hollywood.
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De ting is.....because of Beckham fame in proportion to his footballing ability, it would be quite easy fuh opposin players to hate on de guy, but players de world over have nothing but positive comments about Beckham. Teammates from Man U to Real to Inter. Opponents everywhere. All say the same thing...the guy is genuine and they can't believe how much of a plain nice guy he is...especially with all the demands on his time. He never seems to reject a request for an autograph. And I is one who feel Beckham highly overrated from a footballing standpoint.
Now this lil prick come and talkin he talk. There was always something about Landon Donovan I just didn't like. Couldn't put my finger on it or why....it was just a vibe. This just confirms it.
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They "forgot about the game, lost the hunger that got you the Rolex, the cars, the mansion."
Is OK for Roy Keen to blast Becks and others in the press but Donovan is out of line??? :timeout:
This is some serious News Of the World style journalism.
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I hadda say, I used to think Becks was overrated until he went to Real Madrid.
He still too good for the MLS, and the English game doh really allow him to be at his best, never mind all the trophies. Spain was probably the best ball he ever play.
Say what. All the ole talk about books and who committed and ting, that is for the media and the fans to act up. As long as men doing they wuk, they could be vex. If that translate to the field, then one of them will have to go, and yuh know they making more money for Becks than Donovan, so is he will be left behind to hear about how he Run Becks out of the MLS.
Say What, Ribery going Real Madrid. Maybe he feel he have a sweat waiting in Bayern
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De ting is.....because of Beckham fame in proportion to his footballing ability, it would be quite easy fuh opposin players to hate on de guy, but players de world over have nothing but positive comments about Beckham. Teammates from Man U to Real to Inter. Opponents everywhere. All say the same thing...the guy is genuine and they can't believe how much of a plain nice guy he is...especially with all the demands on his time. He never seems to reject a request for an autograph. And I is one who feel Beckham highly overrated from a footballing standpoint.
Now this lil prick come and talkin he talk. There was always something about Landon Donovan I just didn't like. Couldn't put my finger on it or why....it was just a vibe. This just confirms it.
Plus from the excerpts ive read of the book, the author seems like he has an agenda against Beckham.
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Can I say I am surprised? Typical! Just Typical. BTW controversey sells books.
Everywhere Becks has gone he has been the consumate professional and gentleman. Typical! Just Typical.
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I tell allyuh dem fellas is a bunch of cry babies.
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I want to see how this will play out. Looks like Donovan pushing for Beck to ride out into the sunset. On a serious note, if Becks is simply playing because he is contracted to the MLS, and doesn't have it in his heart to play in the U.S., he should seek a termination of the contract and go elsewhere. He can still play in Europe for a decent team.
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From what i've read, I feel Landon talking the truth..but to air it in public just makes him an even worse teammate and leader than the guy who he is criticizing. He has potentially created an even bigger rift in the dressing room. And the timing of it is crazy. It would be one thing if he made those comments if it was clear Becks was never coming back, or if things were going to work out for Landon in the Bundesliga and he wouldn't have to deal with the Englishman (it woulda still be unprofessional, but i coulda better see why he fire de shot)...But it looks like he knows full well he has to play with Becks and he sees it as something he has to confront him about.
The auther Grant Wahl writes for Sports Illustrated and this book smells of either vendetta (like he personally trying to get back at Beckham for something)..or a push for stardom by writing something sensational. I surprised a current teammate would fall for that bait. The author must know by publishing a book with this kind of slant he was going to do a lot of damage.
For the mother of all conspiracy theories though...the timing of this book too suspicious. How is the 'Beckham Experiment' failed if it not over. How come the book coming out exactly on Becks return. What if this is just MLS drumming up some drama for the league and Landon and Beckham in on it. Nahhhhhh...never was a big conspiracy theorist..I feel Landon eat dat bait and I for one will be checking out Galaxy games just to see if is pure hate and they acting normal
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Donovan damn right!!! all dem english men does underate the concacaf region where football is concerned way too much.
yuh must go on some of the EPL sites and see how they talk bout U.S. football.
bekham not taking the galaxy serious! the whole fackin ting is ah joke for him. allyuh must remember that donovan is ah committed fella tuh club and country!
dem americans always had tuh live under the shadow of the british as far as football is concerned, and i could only imagine how frustrating it must be tuh have ah has been washed out britt sh!t on yuh football and rub it in!
i'm sure americans like donovan is tired of being taken lightly in the footballing world and demands respect! that's why they took their game to another level, and it showed when they went one up on italy with ten men and defeating the euro champs in convincing fashion, while giving the brazil ah run for their money.
i'm in no wise ah fan of american soccer, and certainly not a fan of landon (radar) donovan, but he does have ah strong point. positive.
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Always knew Donovan was an ass ...he jes confirmed it....de jackass cannot see the bigger picture....before Beckham came de MLS couldn't find sponsors for teams....then Beckham came and his name was splashed all over the news causing the MLS to be in the spotlight and soon after all kind of business want dey name on shirt and associated with teams....and guess what Mr. Idiot Donovan it help keep yuh league alive. Now with regards to yuh team being so shiddy perhaps yuh need to tork tuh Mr. Lalas ent he was yuh general manager? Look the fact is that any good player will always opt to play for a better team (except christina ronaldina).
So it eh becks fault that no team want yuh.....
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Always knew Donovan was an ass ...he jes confirmed it....de jackass cannot see the bigger picture....before Beckham came de MLS couldn't find sponsors for teams....then Beckham came and his name was splashed all over the news causing the MLS to be in the spotlight and soon after all kind of business want dey name on shirt and associated with teams....and guess what Mr. Idiot Donovan it help keep yuh league alive. Now with regards to yuh team being so shiddy perhaps yuh need to tork tuh Mr. Lalas ent he was yuh general manager? Look the fact is that any good player will always opt to play for a better team (except christina ronaldina).
So it eh becks fault that no team want yuh.....
Allyuh doh shame eh!! :rotfl:
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D fella was d starrrrrrrrrr b4 Becks now he is just a monstarrrrrrr.
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when donovan could put himself in the same league as beckham, then he could talk...otherwise he should keep his mouth shut
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Insecurity and Jealousy by Donovan....nuttin more.
He cyar tie beckham boots far less tote he jockstrap.
I ent saying Donovan ent good...but Beckham on another level.
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Insecurity and Jealousy by Donovan....nuttin more.
He cyar tie beckham boots far less tote he jockstrap.
I ent saying Donovan ent good...but Beckham on another level.
WAS...
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I agree Beckham half arsed it and I have stated so before but it appears that Donovan saw an opportunity tuh get back at Beckham after seemingly being displaced. And all he did is confirm he is a little punk who does not have the guts that Beckham has tuh take on new challenges and succeed.
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Insecurity and Jealousy by Donovan....nuttin more.
He cyar tie beckham boots far less tote he jockstrap.
I ent saying Donovan ent good...but Beckham on another level.
WAS...
a beckham past his prime is still a better player than donovan :-\
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Insecurity and Jealousy by Donovan....nuttin more.
He cyar tie beckham boots far less tote he jockstrap.
I ent saying Donovan ent good...but Beckham on another level.
WAS...
a beckham past his prime is still a better player than donovan :-\
Cosign
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I agree Beckham half arsed it and I have stated so before but it appears that Donovan saw an opportunity tuh get back at Beckham after seemingly being displaced. And all he did is confirm he is a little punk who does not have the guts that Beckham has tuh take on new challenges and succeed.
haha..giggsy yuh real good. i remember yuh used to say he didn't have the guts to try new challenges. but wait, he went and try a new challenge..now he doh have the guts to try a new challenge AND succeed. oh gosh..jes admit yuh doh like de man nah ;D
when donovan could put himself in the same league as beckham, then he could talk...otherwise he should keep his mouth shut
what dat have to do wit anything. cuz yuh good yuh have license to move like ah a$$? never understood the 'know yuh place' attitude.
Even if he is wrong about Becks, Donavan have all right to call him out bout things that bothering him...but not in a book and behind his back so. Daiz team business that need to be handled like mature adults behind close doors.
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I agree Beckham half arsed it and I have stated so before but it appears that Donovan saw an opportunity tuh get back at Beckham after seemingly being displaced. And all he did is confirm he is a little punk who does not have the guts that Beckham has tuh take on new challenges and succeed.
haha..giggsy yuh real good. i remember yuh used to say he didn't have the guts to try new challenges. but wait, he went and try a new challenge..now he doh have the guts to try a new challenge AND succeed. oh gosh..jes admit yuh doh like de man nah ;D
when donovan could put himself in the same league as beckham, then he could talk...otherwise he should keep his mouth shut
what dat have to do wit anything. cuz yuh good yuh have license to move like ah a$$? never understood the 'know yuh place' attitude.
Even if he is wrong about Becks, Donavan have all right to call him out bout things that bothering him...but not in a book and behind his back so. Daiz team business that need to be handled like mature adults behind close doors.
Read some of beckham's quotes in a joke book ...dont blame Donavan for not trying to hold a conversation with him...then there's the accent .....
Seriously though Ah find allyuh hard on de man for de same reason dat we used to bash Dwight in the earlies...like yuh forgettin was de same ting ?
I ready to write a book on kenwyn now ...
Notice donavan never said becks eh good ...just dat he eh giving enough ..and not taking de team seriously ...knowing dem Yanks and knowing a bit bout becks ..donavan done tell him all dem tings to he face alrerady and Becks just smiled !
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haha..giggsy yuh real good. i remember yuh used to say he didn't have the guts to try new challenges. but wait, he went and try a new challenge..now he doh have the guts to try a new challenge AND succeed. oh gosh..jes admit yuh doh like de man nah ;D
when donovan could put himself in the same league as beckham, then he could talk...otherwise he should keep his mouth shut
what dat have to do wit anything. cuz yuh good yuh have license to move like ah a$$? never understood the 'know yuh place' attitude.
Even if he is wrong about Becks, Donavan have all right to call him out bout things that bothering him...but not in a book and behind his back so. Daiz team business that need to be handled like mature adults behind close doors.
it have to do with everything. If he was the same level, go for it Donovan, speak yuh mind; otherwise he'll just look bitter and jealous which others have already noted. If Kaka start calling out Beckham, more people would pay attention for the sole fact they serious ballers. Donovan trying to get he name out there. simple as that. ..but yeah he if really had concerns i agree, keep that for the locker room
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Insecurity and Jealousy by Donovan....nuttin more.
He cyar tie beckham boots far less tote he jockstrap.
I ent saying Donovan ent good...but Beckham on another level.
WAS...
Kicker yuh heart real dark dread....You only looking to Smallify Beckham
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I know if I was paying Beckham dah kinda ah money , he wudda hah tuh be at every
facking game, every facking practice and wuss yet if he is meh capt and eh showing no leadership on and off the pitch ..fack he .Lalas is de worst GM in de history ah football .Me eh blaming Beckham, buh as much as ah hate tuh agree wid Humty Dumpty,he right .Yuh cyar be making all dah money and eh doing one facking ting fuh de team ....steupppss . Like ah say if was my money Beckham gone long facking time ...in de fuss place ah wasn't paying dah kinda ah money fuh him.
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De ting is.....because of Beckham fame in proportion to his footballing ability, it would be quite easy fuh opposin players to hate on de guy, but players de world over have nothing but positive comments about Beckham. Teammates from Man U to Real to Inter. Opponents everywhere. All say the same thing...the guy is genuine and they can't believe how much of a plain nice guy he is...especially with all the demands on his time. He never seems to reject a request for an autograph. And I is one who feel Beckham highly overrated from a footballing standpoint.
Now this lil prick come and talkin he talk. There was always something about Landon Donovan I just didn't like. Couldn't put my finger on it or why....it was just a vibe. This just confirms it.
well said. :applause:
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I know if I was paying Beckham dah kinda ah money , he wudda hah tuh be at every
facking game, every facking practice and wuss yet if he is meh capt and eh showing no leadership on and off the pitch ..fack he .Lalas is de worst GM in de history ah football .Me eh blaming Beckham, buh as much as ah hate tuh agree wid Humty Dumpty,he right .Yuh cyar be making all dah money and eh doing one facking ting fuh de team ....steupppss . Like ah say if was my money Beckham gone long facking time ...in de fuss place ah wasn't paying dah kinda ah money fuh him.
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I know if I was paying Beckham dah kinda ah money , he wudda hah tuh be at every
facking game, every facking practice and wuss yet if he is meh capt and eh showing no leadership on and off the pitch ..fack he .Lalas is de worst GM in de history ah football .Me eh blaming Beckham, buh as much as ah hate tuh agree wid Humty Dumpty,he right .Yuh cyar be making all dah money and eh doing one facking ting fuh de team ....steupppss . Like ah say if was my money Beckham gone long facking time ...in de fuss place ah wasn't paying dah kinda ah money fuh him.
But the ting is most of Beckham salary not paid by the Galaxy. The owner fork out most of the Cash, who knows what arrangement was made between them when setting up this deal. Additionally, is not Beckham fault that they was so desperate to sign him that they give him all he ask for and done it when he was injured. Plus, Beckham was signed primarily for league exposure and team Financial benefits....I would say both have been relatively successful. Donovan needs to take some of the Blame fuh such ah mis-firing side, I've seen them play and while you could say Beck's was 'going through the motions' last season I can't say Donovan was seeting the world alight with his performances......and he supposed to be America's best player. IMHO Donovan should shut his mouth fuh that reason alone. Yes, Beckham ain't been anything special since he arrived in the MLS but Donovan did'nt do nothing special in that time either. At least Beckham bringing more money and media coverage...until this book Donovan ain't done nothing fuh the Galaxy, and now all he bringing is negativity. I agree with yuh that the Galaxy management could have done a lot more.....I bet yuh this Beckham thing would be very different if the Galaxy was winning, regardless of how Beck's was playing.
The one decent point Donovan made was the Beckham came with all the best intentions but as soon as he realise it was a pappyshow he get himself involve with....well the man switch-off. Doh care how much money you get paid, tons of other ballers have done the same in the past and worse.
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I know if I was paying Beckham dah kinda ah money , he wudda hah tuh be at every
facking game, every facking practice and wuss yet if he is meh capt and eh showing no leadership on and off the pitch ..fack he .Lalas is de worst GM in de history ah football .Me eh blaming Beckham, buh as much as ah hate tuh agree wid Humty Dumpty,he right .Yuh cyar be making all dah money and eh doing one facking ting fuh de team ....steupppss . Like ah say if was my money Beckham gone long facking time ...in de fuss place ah wasn't paying dah kinda ah money fuh him.
But the ting is most of Beckham salary not paid by the Galaxy. The owner fork out most of the Cash, who knows what arrangement was made between them when setting up this deal. Additionally, is not Beckham fault that they was so desperate to sign him that they give him all he ask for and done it when he was injured. Plus, Beckham was signed primarily for league exposure and team Financial benefits....I would say both have been relatively successful. Donovan needs to take some of the Blame fuh such ah mis-firing side, I've seen them play and while you could say Beck's was 'going through the motions' last season I can't say Donovan was seeting the world alight with his performances......and he supposed to be America's best player. IMHO Donovan should shut his mouth fuh that reason alone. Yes, Beckham ain't been anything special since he arrived in the MLS but Donovan did'nt do nothing special in that time either. At least Beckham bringing more money and media coverage...until this book Donovan ain't done nothing fuh the Galaxy, and now all he bringing is negativity. I agree with yuh that the Galaxy management could have done a lot more.....I bet yuh this Beckham thing would be very different if the Galaxy was winning, regardless of how Beck's was playing.
The one decent point Donovan made was the Beckham came with all the best intentions but as soon as he realise it was a pappyshow he get himself involve with....well the man switch-off. Doh care how much money you get paid, tons of other ballers have done the same in the past and worse.
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For the mother of all conspiracy theories though...the timing of this book too suspicious. How is the 'Beckham Experiment' failed if it not over. How come the book coming out exactly on Becks return. (1) What if this is just MLS drumming up some drama for the league and Landon and Beckham in on it. Nahhhhhh...never was a big conspiracy theorist..I feel Landon eat dat bait and (2) I for one will be checking out Galaxy games just to see if is pure hate and they acting normal
If (1) is true and (2) takes place (for the general public), then mission accomplished, no?
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I agree Beckham half arsed it and I have stated so before but it appears that Donovan saw an opportunity tuh get back at Beckham after seemingly being displaced. And all he did is confirm he is a little punk who does not have the guts that Beckham has tuh take on new challenges and succeed.
haha..giggsy yuh real good. i remember yuh used to say he didn't have the guts to try new challenges. but wait, he went and try a new challenge..now he doh have the guts to try a new challenge AND succeed. oh gosh..jes admit yuh doh like de man nah ;D
How yuh mean, why admit the obvious! :devil:
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landon donovan is ah big big player (sarcasm), he was instrumental in de US reaching the Confed final and according to one writer on goal.com, he was the player of de tournament, better than kaka, luis fabiano, felipe melo, lucio, etc.....
i dont think landon should have made those comments in public unless he addressed them a lot in private with beckham and beckham didnt make any efforts to improve his behavior.
as for beckham, anybody who believed that he was playing in the MLS under ah serious vibes have to related to de man on sesame street who bought a handful of air. As a professional beckham should be dedicated but most players in their latter years take de easy contract with nice money.
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Donovan could gripe all he want, Beckham own the Bank Donovan does cash he salary in.
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bottom line is ckham tired playing for that shit side! Money is not the issue it's quality of the ball. I saw this coming the day he signed with Galaxy
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I don't think who getting more money than who should be the point,Beckham knows he can't do anything for that team why go there and mess things up,he eh go there because of no Football this is all about money,any where Beckham goes is all about business for himself and who ever contracts him,he is a money making machine.
Donavan and the small fries on that team are the ones who have that team at heart because they depend on that for their bread and butter,i guess they feel if you are adding someone like Beckham at least he could pull his weight,ah mean Bekham eh do nothing for that team (gamewise)since they contract him,peeps saying the club make back they money etc etc yes they may have made back their money but what happening to the product they put out on the Football field.
I thought guys like that suppose to be an inspiration to players,just playing alongside them suppose to lift your game,i would think that is what was expected of Beckham,i'm sure what Donavan is saying could be the consensus of the rest of the team because things like this don't just affect one person on a team but is who have the nuts to voice an opinion.
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I don't think who getting more money than who should be the point,Beckham knows he can't do anything for that team why go there and mess things up,he eh go there because of no Football this is all about money,any where Beckham goes is all about business for himself and who ever contracts him,he is a money making machine.
Donavan and the small fries on that team are the ones who have that team at heart because they depend on that for their bread and butter,i guess they feel if you are adding someone like Beckham at least he could pull his weight,ah mean Bekham eh do nothing for that team (gamewise)since they contract him,peeps saying the club make back they money etc etc yes they may have made back their money but what happening to the product they put out on the Football field.
I thought guys like that suppose to be an inspiration to players,just playing alongside them suppose to lift your game,i would think that is what was expected of Beckham,i'm sure what Donavan is saying could be the consensus of the rest of the team because things like this don't just affect one person on a team but is who have the nuts to voice an opinion.
How do you know that the players at the Galaxy didn't raise their game by playing with Beckham?
Because they losin?
What if even that "raised game" is simply not good enough....what then?
Donovan now understood how skilled Beckham really was; he marveled at Beckham's passing precision and efficiency, the way he hit the ball cleanly every time. Donovan had reached the point, unheard of in MLS, of believing a teammate's passes would go exactly where they were supposed to -- and 95% of the time they did. With the combination of Beckham's technical ability and his full-field vision, Donovan was in soccer nirvana. "It's just fun," he said. "When he gets the ball, my eyes light up because I know every time there's the potential that we're going to score a goal."
Donovan himself said that he never played with a player where HE KNEW over 90% of the passes to him would be right on the money. It encouraged him to run into spaces even more beause HE KNEW he would get the ball just where he wanted it. Yuh think his game wasn't lifted by Beckham's presence?
Have you even thought what it might be like to be in Beckham's shoes? To be casting veritable "pearls" before footballing swine? Watching your passes go to waste time and time again? Nah....he de superstar right...magically men supposed to raise their game to a level of which they simply not capable.
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haha..giggsy yuh real good. i remember yuh used to say he didn't have the guts to try new challenges. but wait, he went and try a new challenge..now he doh have the guts to try a new challenge AND succeed. oh gosh..jes admit yuh doh like de man nah ;D
when donovan could put himself in the same league as beckham, then he could talk...otherwise he should keep his mouth shut
what dat have to do wit anything. cuz yuh good yuh have license to move like ah a$$? never understood the 'know yuh place' attitude.
Even if he is wrong about Becks, Donavan have all right to call him out bout things that bothering him...but not in a book and behind his back so. Daiz team business that need to be handled like mature adults behind close doors.
it have to do with everything. If he was the same level, go for it Donovan, speak yuh mind; otherwise he'll just look bitter and jealous which others have already noted. If Kaka start calling out Beckham, more people would pay attention for the sole fact they serious ballers. Donovan trying to get he name out there. simple as that. ..but yeah he if really had concerns i agree, keep that for the locker room
be that as it may, it is still nonsense. i don't know if Donavan telling the truth, but truth is truth regardless who tells it. if most people want to be so cynical, then it's too bad. if we all waited for someone of higher 'status' to pull somebody up, the world would be worse for it. and there is no logic behind thinking a more skilled player can't have ulterior motives either. but i guess that is how the average person thinks. Even so, we talking about the Galaxy and given the situation, of all the players who would be expected to talk to Becks, it would be Landon. But we agree that Landon's gripe is not the public's business. I can't agree with his movements, even if he has every right to feel the way he does.
For the mother of all conspiracy theories though...the timing of this book too suspicious. How is the 'Beckham Experiment' failed if it not over. How come the book coming out exactly on Becks return. (1) What if this is just MLS drumming up some drama for the league and Landon and Beckham in on it. Nahhhhhh...never was a big conspiracy theorist..I feel Landon eat dat bait and (2) I for one will be checking out Galaxy games just to see if is pure hate and they acting normal
If (1) is true and (2) takes place (for the general public), then mission accomplished, no?
I was kidding with the conspiracy theory, but I think (2) is going to happen (with the US football fans)) to some extent regardless of whether or not (1) is true
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New Beckham book causing a stir in Los AngelesAssociated Press
Updated: July 9, 2009, 1:30 AM EDT 4 comments
NEW YORK (AP) - ESPN paid David Beckham's management company to produce a one-hour documentary on the soccer star that aired two years ago, according to a new book on the Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder.
"The Beckham Experiment," by Sports Illustrated senior writer Grant Wahl, calls ESPN's payment to management company 19 Entertainment for "David Beckham: New Beginnings" an "example of checkbook journalism" and labeled the show a "Beckham Brand infomercial."
Simon Fuller's 19 Entertainment, during the same period in 2007, denied interview access to Beckham for ESPN The Magazine and approached Sports Illustrated with an exclusive interview that landed Beckham the SI cover for its July 16, 2007, issue, Wahl wrote. That was around the time of Beckham's Los Angeles Galaxy debut.
"We hired 19 Entertainment to produce a special on Beckham. It was not something that came out of our news and information division of the company," ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz said Wednesday. "It was a programming arrangement. We did provide editorial input to the show. 19 Entertainment was credited."
Glenn Lehrman, Beckham's U.S.-based spokesman, said the Beckham special was co-produced by 19 Entertainment and British television network ITV and ESPN purchased the U.S. rights to air it.
The book is scheduled for publication on July 16, when Beckham is scheduled to play his first match for the Galaxy following a half-season loan to AC Milan. In an excerpt in SI last week, Galaxy teammate Landon Donovan questioned Beckham's commitment to the team.
Los Angeles, which failed to make the playoffs in each of Beckham's first two seasons, is portrayed as a team beset by management infighting involving Anschutz Entertainment Group chief executive officer Tim Leiweke, former president and general manager Alexi Lalas, coaches Frank Yallop and Ruud Gullit and Beckham personal manager Terry Byrne.
Donovan said Lalas, a former U.S. national team star who was fired by the Galaxy last August, was "in over his head" and "trying to do too much." Wahl says that under Gullit, the Galaxy failed to devote a single practice to set pieces during the 2008 preseason, even though set pieces are Beckham's specialty.
Lalas, according to the book, overrode a media vote in favor of Donovan as the team's MVP in 2007, giving the award to Chris Klein. Donovan found out and argued, saying it cost him a $25,000 bonus.
"Landon got his money because he cried, but I still looked him in the eye and said: 'I don't personally believe you're the MVP,"' Lalas is quoted as saying.
This is why I am a Donovan fan :loser:
The book says Beckham, following a career with Manchester United and Real Madrid, found Major League Soccer's travel accommodations "shocking." After dissatisfaction with Sheraton Braintree in Massachusetts, when the team played at New York it stayed at the Waldorf-Astoria in Manhattan instead of the Secaucus Sheraton in New Jersey.
"I knew from the moment I talked to our staff and our players that something needed to be done, and it needed to be done quick," Lalas was quoted as saying. "That means upgrading the travels, the hotels, the meals. David's involvement obviously facilitated it."
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After ripping David Beckham, Landon Donovan tries to explain
"I'm not going to apologize for the way I felt," he told The Times. "What I feel badly about is that I should have been a man and told David how I felt as opposed to telling a reporter.
"David and I will sit down when he gets back and just talk it through. What you don't get from reading a few excerpts and what you do get from reading the whole book is that we all want David to be here. We all want him to succeed, and he wants to succeed.
"Something happened at some point last year where a switch went off, and that's what I want to talk to him about, and we'll figure that out man to man."
(continue) (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jones-beckham9-2009jul09,0,7204423.story)
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After ripping David Beckham, Landon Donovan tries to explain
"I'm not going to apologize for the way I felt," he told The Times. "What I feel badly about is that I should have been a man and told David how I felt as opposed to telling a reporter.
"David and I will sit down when he gets back and just talk it through. What you don't get from reading a few excerpts and what you do get from reading the whole book is that we all want David to be here. We all want him to succeed, and he wants to succeed.
"Something happened at some point last year where a switch went off, and that's what I want to talk to him about, and we'll figure that out man to man."
(continue) (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jones-beckham9-2009jul09,0,7204423.story)
he back peddling now?
all this shit cause Becks seize he spot light
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so what becks and 19 entertainment doing?
INFOMERCIAL!!!
money could buy everything.
http://www.dirtytackle.net/2009/07/espn-paid-for-davey-becks-infomercial/
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After ripping David Beckham, Landon Donovan tries to explain
"I'm not going to apologize for the way I felt," he told The Times. "What I feel badly about is that I should have been a man and told David how I felt as opposed to telling a reporter.
"David and I will sit down when he gets back and just talk it through. What you don't get from reading a few excerpts and what you do get from reading the whole book is that we all want David to be here. We all want him to succeed, and he wants to succeed.
"Something happened at some point last year where a switch went off, and that's what I want to talk to him about, and we'll figure that out man to man."
(continue) (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-jones-beckham9-2009jul09,0,7204423.story)
he back peddling now?
all this shit cause Becks seize he spot light
Allyuh is rell biased assholes oui! He rip Beckham and everyone say he shouldna do it so. He man up and admit to doin shit and now it's viewed as backpedalling? Wey allyuh does come up with dem reverse brand ah logic from?
Me eh no Donovan fan and I agree with anyone that says he should not have gone public (unless he had these convos with Becks to no avail). Maybe Donovan realized himself, was told by teamates or Galaxy brass, or maybe it was friends and fam. however he arrive at the realization is irrelivant. Many athletes and stars would not make any further statement as to their fallacy in approach, so I give credit to Donovan for admitting this publicly. As for the spotlight thing it might well be part of it, but I wouldn't fault him for that considering he has shown a very high level of loyalty to both the Galaxy and MLS as a whole by committing himself to the cause (even when he could still have played in Europe).
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Allyuh is rell biased assholes oui! He rip Beckham and everyone say he shouldna do it so. He man up and admit to doin shit and now it's viewed as backpedalling? Wey allyuh does come up with dem reverse brand ah logic from?
Me eh no Donovan fan and I agree with anyone that says he should not have gone public (unless he had these convos with Becks to no avail). Maybe Donovan realized himself, was told by teamates or Galaxy brass, or maybe it was friends and fam. however he arrive at the realization is irrelivant. Many athletes and stars would not make any further statement as to their fallacy in approach, so I give credit to Donovan for admitting this publicly. As for the spotlight thing it might well be part of it, but I wouldn't fault him for that considering he has shown a very high level of loyalty to both the Galaxy and MLS as a whole by committing himself to the cause (even when he could still have played in Europe).
I wouldn't call it loyalty, I would call it an inabilty to get a contract with a big European Team and the high possibility he would be a bitpart player with most tophalf sides in the Big European leagues. By staying in the MLS he garunteed to be a starter, pick-up one of the bigger wage packets in the league and gain good bucks from endorsment as he is a marquee American player. By scrunting round Europe, he would become the forgotten man pretty quick in the US and certainly wouldn't be garunteed a starting place or significant endorsements because of that. He is staying where he knows he can maximise his potential with the occasional foray into Europe in the hope he could get a sweet deal. Again, ah would'nt class that as loyalty.
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Allyuh is rell biased assholes oui! He rip Beckham and everyone say he shouldna do it so. He man up and admit to doin shit and now it's viewed as backpedalling? Wey allyuh does come up with dem reverse brand ah logic from?
Me eh no Donovan fan and I agree with anyone that says he should not have gone public (unless he had these convos with Becks to no avail). Maybe Donovan realized himself, was told by teamates or Galaxy brass, or maybe it was friends and fam. however he arrive at the realization is irrelivant. Many athletes and stars would not make any further statement as to their fallacy in approach, so I give credit to Donovan for admitting this publicly. As for the spotlight thing it might well be part of it, but I wouldn't fault him for that considering he has shown a very high level of loyalty to both the Galaxy and MLS as a whole by committing himself to the cause (even when he could still have played in Europe).
I wouldn't call it loyalty, I would call it an inabilty to get a contract with a big European Team and the high possibility he would be a bitpart player with most tophalf sides in the Big European leagues. By staying in the MLS he garunteed to be a starter, pick-up one of the bigger wage packets in the league and gain good bucks from endorsment as he is a marquee American player. By scrunting round Europe, he would become the forgotten man pretty quick in the US and certainly wouldn't be garunteed a starting place or significant endorsements because of that. He is staying where he knows he can maximise his potential with the occasional foray into Europe in the hope he could get a sweet deal. Again, ah would'nt class that as loyalty.
So yuh think Birchall playing for T&T cuz that was his first choice from since he was a youth? I doh think so. If Birchy was good enough to rep England, yuh woulda never know he was a Trini. But as fate would have it, this was his best avenue to international football and Talles link him. And as far as I see...his loyalty is not in question. You don't think all of our national team players realize that a good set of performances for T&T could boost their club careers. So Landon has shown he'd like to go to Europe..no question he has extra incentive to play well. But that is the case with almost any player. By your logic, we should question the loyalty of any player who not playing at the highest possible level they could play at...nonsense.
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Allyuh is rell biased assholes oui! He rip Beckham and everyone say he shouldna do it so. He man up and admit to doin shit and now it's viewed as backpedalling? Wey allyuh does come up with dem reverse brand ah logic from?
Me eh no Donovan fan and I agree with anyone that says he should not have gone public (unless he had these convos with Becks to no avail). Maybe Donovan realized himself, was told by teamates or Galaxy brass, or maybe it was friends and fam. however he arrive at the realization is irrelivant. Many athletes and stars would not make any further statement as to their fallacy in approach, so I give credit to Donovan for admitting this publicly. As for the spotlight thing it might well be part of it, but I wouldn't fault him for that considering he has shown a very high level of loyalty to both the Galaxy and MLS as a whole by committing himself to the cause (even when he could still have played in Europe).
I wouldn't call it loyalty, I would call it an inabilty to get a contract with a big European Team and the high possibility he would be a bitpart player with most tophalf sides in the Big European leagues. By staying in the MLS he garunteed to be a starter, pick-up one of the bigger wage packets in the league and gain good bucks from endorsment as he is a marquee American player. By scrunting round Europe, he would become the forgotten man pretty quick in the US and certainly wouldn't be garunteed a starting place or significant endorsements because of that. He is staying where he knows he can maximise his potential with the occasional foray into Europe in the hope he could get a sweet deal. Again, ah would'nt class that as loyalty.
I doh see it that way, he was a good player at Bayern and players much worse than him have managed to stay in top flight ball in the big European leagues. But we doh ha to agree.
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So yuh think Birchall playing for T&T cuz that was his first choice from since he was a youth? I doh think so. If Birchy was good enough to rep England, yuh woulda never know he was a Trini. But as fate would have it, this was his best avenue to international football and Talles link him. And as far as I see...his loyalty is not in question. You don't think all of our national team players realize that a good set of performances for T&T could boost their club careers. So Landon has shown he'd like to go to Europe..no question he has extra incentive to play well. But that is the case with almost any player. By your logic, we should question the loyalty of any player who not playing at the highest possible level they could play at...nonsense.
I'm sorry!? Where in my post did I make a general comment about all footballers? I talking about Landon Donovan only! Different players have different reasons for sticking with certain teams and with certain leagues. Birchall situation is nothing similar to Donovan's, how can you make a comparison between them? The reasons for choosing to keep playing for a national team are very different to those of choosing to play for a club side. National teams doh pay yuh daily wage and you only have to play for them ah handful of times per year....I talking about ah fella who choosing to continue a career in a lesser league than prove his supposed class in bigger, more elite leagues. You have completely lost me on your logic there. It is obvious your opinion on what loyalty means is clearly different to mine. To me loyalty in the situation I was discussing, is a player who spurns better options because they have an allegiance with or feel they owe the club they play for. I think Donovan was staying because he doesn't believe the options currently available to him in Europe would actually improve his standing, I do not think he is staying because he loves/or owes the Galaxy or MLS! Now if you argue like Mr Killa an say you disagree with my reasons for why he chooses to stay in the MLS....well ah could understand that. But to me your argument is nonsense.
Mr Killa, yeah we go have to agree to disagree.
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It good for them. They should have kept Cornell Glen.
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So yuh think Birchall playing for T&T cuz that was his first choice from since he was a youth? I doh think so. If Birchy was good enough to rep England, yuh woulda never know he was a Trini. But as fate would have it, this was his best avenue to international football and Talles link him. And as far as I see...his loyalty is not in question. You don't think all of our national team players realize that a good set of performances for T&T could boost their club careers. So Landon has shown he'd like to go to Europe..no question he has extra incentive to play well. But that is the case with almost any player. By your logic, we should question the loyalty of any player who not playing at the highest possible level they could play at...nonsense.
I'm sorry!? Where in my post did I make a general comment about all footballers? I talking about Landon Donovan only! Different players have different reasons for sticking with certain teams and with certain leagues. Birchall situation is nothing similar to Donovan's, how can you make a comparison between them? The reasons for choosing to keep playing for a national team are very different to those of choosing to play for a club side. National teams doh pay yuh daily wage and you only have to play for them ah handful of times per year....I talking about ah fella who choosing to continue a career in a lesser league than prove his supposed class in bigger, more elite leagues. You have completely lost me on your logic there. It is obvious your opinion on what loyalty means is clearly different to mine. To me loyalty in the situation I was discussing, is a player who spurns better options because they have an allegiance with or feel they owe the club they play for. I think Donovan was staying because he doesn't believe the options currently available to him in Europe would actually improve his standing, I do not think he is staying because he loves/or owes the Galaxy or MLS! Now if you argue like Mr Killa an say you disagree with my reasons for why he chooses to stay in the MLS....well ah could understand that. But to me your argument is nonsense.
Mr Killa, yeah we go have to agree to disagree.
breds...if yuh cyah see the analogies, lemme say it another way.....you said you wouldn't call Landon loyal. He basically playing for La Galaxy cuz he couldn't make at a big club in Europe. All I saying is look Birchy playing for T&T cuz he couldn't make playing for England. But that does not mean he is not loyal to T&T cause now that he is made his decision. i agree playing for club and country can be 2 different things, but i can make a similar analogy to many club players. i figured Birchy is someone we could all relate to and the analogy has similarities, like it or not.
my second point, i will retract. i thought you were trying to say he only playing hard cuz he wants to get scouted by a bigger club. that's why i made the point that could be true of any number of footballers. and the national team analogy fits. by that logic any player who plays hard for the national team hoping to be scouted by a big club, or any club player who does the same not necessarily loyal. you can be very loyal to your club or country and still have motivations to succeed that have nothing to do with loyalty. BUT..my bad. It is an irrelevant point. I realize now that was not in your main argument. Hard luck.
In end, you and i doh know Landon personally so we not in a position to talk about him in that way, that is why i use a general examples to say that your reasoning doesn't make sense. your def. of loyalty kinda limited. funny thing is i would put real money on you criticizing Donavan for being unambitious and stupid..if he actually turned down better offers to stay in MLS. perhaps ah wrong, but i guarantee you'd be the only one who would be caling dat loyalty if that was the case
if you still eh see what i getting at cool..we go agree to disagree. hard luck with the 2nd paragraph. i was off base dey
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Filho: I will agree with you on this....my definition on loyalty does leave a very fine line between a player being classed as loyal or stupid depending on the circumstances, but it's all subjective. I will use Matt LeTissier as an example, he was branded as unambitious / stupid when he turned down at least 4 moves (in my memory) to leave Southampton for bigger clubs and more money. I class him as loyal, He stated his reasons for staying with Southampton pretty clearly (most here should be aware of them so I won't bother listing them) and his actions during and since have never contradicted his reasons. Donovan's actions (still trying to play in Europe) don't particularly suggest he has any great affection or debt to his current employers is all I'm saying. Unlike Beckham he did'nt really have any concrete reason to make a loan move to Europe last season.
Ah go leave it there though.
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Filho: I will agree with you on this....my definition on loyalty does leave a very fine line between a player being classed as loyal or stupid depending on the circumstances, but it's all subjective. I will use Matt LeTissier as an example, he was branded as unambitious / stupid when he turned down at least 4 moves (in my memory) to leave Southampton for bigger clubs and more money. I class him as loyal, He stated his reasons for staying with Southampton pretty clearly (most here should be aware of them so I won't bother listing them) and his actions during and since have never contradicted his reasons. Donovan's actions (still trying to play in Europe) don't particularly suggest he has any great affection or debt to his current employers is all I'm saying. Unlike Beckham he did'nt really have any concrete reason to make a loan move to Europe last season.
Ah go leave it there though.
cool
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Beckham hits back at Donovan
Soccernet.com
England midfielder David Beckham has criticised the "unprofessional" conduct of Los Angeles Galaxy team-mate Landon Donovan after the USA star publicly suggested he had shown a lack of commitment to the club and the MLS.
Beckham has returned to the Galaxy after a five-month loan at Italian giants AC Milan and is seeking showdown talks with Donovan over the comments made in his book; 'The Beckham Experiment'.
"It's unprofessional," Beckham blasted on his return to the USA. "In 17 years, I have played with the biggest teams in the world and the biggest players and not once been criticised for my professionalism."
Donovan claimed the former England captain was a poor leader and that his interest in Major League Soccer had faded, despite being paid 'more than double anybody in the league'.
Beckham responded by saying: "In every football player's eyes throughout the world it would be unprofessional to speak out about a team-mate, especially in the press and not to your face.
"It's important to get this cleared up, and I will be speaking to Landon either this evening or over the next couple of days."
Being in Italy helped Beckham keep his game sharp. And even though it involved a month-long saga of negotiations involving MLS, Milan, and the Galaxy, Beckham said it was for the best.
He also said he would do it again in 2010 if given the opportunity, so he can make one last World Cup appearance with England.
"To be involved in the World Cup and to be involved with this England squad, I have to give myself the chance to be at that top level. I'll do that personally and anything to do that. It's just saying that for the moment, this is what I need to do. It doesn't mean I'm running away from a project I believe in."
"I think the experiences I've had can only help this team," Beckham said.
"I'm personally very professional when I am on the field. I don't care what people say about me off the field, once I'm on the field I'm professional and if there is a chance for him to score, I will be giving him the ball. Me and Landon will talk, but that will be a private conversation."
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I just see the interview with Beckham and he didn't "hit back" he just responded because it out there in the public. The quotes they put correct but the title and the description "Beckham blasted" over the top.
If u only read the article u wud swear they want more war in the press lol
I guess the media hype go be good for them
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I just see the interview with Beckham and he didn't "hit back" he just responded because it out there in the public. The quotes they put correct but the title and the description "Beckham blasted" over the top.
If u only read the article u wud swear they want more war in the press lol
I guess the media hype go be good for them
Thats all this is, media hype. Now everybody want to watch LA play to see what go be the case between Becks and Donovan....Americans know how to get attention boy ::)
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Now Donovon regret what he say and and STEUPSE.
Everyting fix.
I eh go lie it might work out better for MLS that he say dem tings to put pressure on Becks to at least look like he making an effort while playing and also make it appear Becks taking dem serious. still jokey
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listenin to donovan on fsc report dey..soun like ah rel bitch dat jes get bawl up..ah almos feel sorry fuh him
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
but yuh jokey... free tickets was giving away right here last week
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
but yuh jokey... free tickets was giving away right here last week
you serious?? where boy.. steups
i pesting meh sources since de last couple weeks for ah couple..
it have any more?
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
but yuh jokey... free tickets was giving away right here last week
you serious?? where boy.. steups
i pesting meh sources since de last couple weeks for ah couple..
it have any more?
Look here
Free Red Bull-Galaxy tickets: Birchall's (possible) debut and Beckham's return! (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=44894.0)
Tickets gone...
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This better than pro wrestling dread...
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http://www.dirtytackle.net/2009/07/if-it-continued-11/
If it continued…
Both David Beckham and Landon Donovan have publicly stated that they sat down together and buried the hatchet, but what if their feud continued through that little pow-wow?
97′ — Beckham stops staring at his own tattoos and realizes there’s someone else in the room.
101′ — Donovan puts on the captain’s armband, spends an inordinate amount of time adjusting it just to make sure Beckham notices that he’s wearing it.
108′ — Beckham makes a comment about watching Donovan’s wife’s show in his bedroom. Donovan can’t decide if this is a sexual innuendo or merely a statement of Beckham’s night time television viewing habits.
115′ — Beckham strips down to his underpants for no other reason than that he feels strangely compelled to do so at least 10-15 times a day.
122′ — Donovan taps a crunchy Jack Johnson groove on the table. Beckham squints, easily winning the impromptu cool-off.
126′ — Beckham’s Robot Wife charges through the wall, shooting laser beams out of her eyes and emitting the sound of a police siren out of her mouth hole. Beckham removes her batteries, thus disabling the threat. For now…
131′ — Beckham carves “I luv Milan” into the table. Donovan snottily asks, “If you love Milan so much, why don’t you marry it?” Beckham replies, “Because then I’ll get bored with it and want to bang other clubs.”
139′ — The two lock eyes and stare each other down. They stand nose to nose in a battle of wills to decide the true top dog at LA Galaxy. They both breathe heavy, each flinching slightly as they attempt to crush one another with the sheer force of their bottled anger and resentment. And just when it seems like they’ll finally beat the living hell out of each other…
140′ — …they kiss like they have only kissed twice before.
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
but yuh jokey... free tickets was giving away right here last week
you serious?? where boy.. steups
i pesting meh sources since de last couple weeks for ah couple..
it have any more?
Look here
Free Red Bull-Galaxy tickets: Birchall's (possible) debut and Beckham's return! (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=44894.0)
Tickets gone...
Hey FF, yours come yet? hoping mine come today
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I now gone to see if I could get tickets to the game vs redbulls since I see a $20 ticket offer in the newspaper - but when I gone on ticketmaster $20 done, is flecking $65 + $10 for the convenience fee.
to see Beckham and Donovan fight? Nah - and with no certainty that Me Mum going to play?? Nah.
but yuh jokey... free tickets was giving away right here last week
you serious?? where boy.. steups
i pesting meh sources since de last couple weeks for ah couple..
it have any more?
Look here
Free Red Bull-Galaxy tickets: Birchall's (possible) debut and Beckham's return! (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=44894.0)
Tickets gone...
Hey FF, yours come yet? hoping mine come today
Yours eh come yet? Some scru slack dey fella, I get mine since Tuesday
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Yeah I get mine since wha day it was
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steups... :waiting:
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Grant Wahl on PTI talking about the Beckham-Donovan bust up - trying to play both sides.
According to him, situation is not buried and Bruce Arena is playing mediator between them.
Get this, Wahl says that Beckham has been a success for the LA Galaxy .... OFF the football field
... just glimpsed something on Wiki, and it doesn't seem as though Donovan has ever scored against TT.
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"I never see it as I should be doing differently," Beckham said. "At the end of the day, you get on with it. I've been criticized by Pele before, by George Best before."
Translation-so being criticized by Donovan who is a nobody means I am going to keep doing what is best for me.