Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum
Sports => Football => Topic started by: E-man on July 06, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
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Greetings.
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the Friendly game vs St. Kitts/Nevis (July 12th) in St Kitts (7pm) will be posted here, this way, we can help maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.
Possible Live Internet Links.
I95.5fm (http://www.i955fm.com/nowplaying.aspx)
105.1FM (http://www.jumptv.com/en/channel/thevibect105fm/)
ZIZ Radio (http://www.zizonline.com/radio/live.cfm)
Winn FM (http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/2c3winlive6898/play.asx)
TV Viewing.
To be updated
T&T Squad:
To be updated
St. Kitts/Nevis Squad:
To be updated
Head to Head:
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Men's 'A' Matches (F, CQ, CF, WQ, WF, CC)
Wins: 1 - 9
Goals: 9 - 30
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We gettin coverage 4 dis?
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people cant be serious with this thread. might as well put up one when we played the u20s :devil:
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What times the game?
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people cant be serious with this thread. might as well put up one when we played the u20s :devil:
When and whoever the Soca Warriors play that is a big game that warrants international coverage!
People round the world really want to see if the Soca Warriors could come from the bottom of their group in the Hex for a 2nd time in a row to qualify for the world cup!
If we could do that twice in a row then top teams round the world go be real cautious about trying to write us off in the future despite us having no serious development programme and probably the oldest international team in world cup football qualification history! ;)
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people cant be serious with this thread. might as well put up one when we played the u20s :devil:
When and whoever the Soca Warriors play that is a big game that warrants international coverage!
People round the world really want to see if the Soca Warriors could come from the bottom of their group in the Hex for a 2nd time in a row to qualify for the world cup!
If we could do that twice in a row then top teams round the world go be real cautious about trying to write us off in the future despite us having no serious development programme and probably the oldest international team in world cup football qualification history! ;)
big game and St. Kitts in the same sentence ??? this just a practice match. while the other Concacaf team keeping fit and running in the gold cup. I rather the team temporary be in the Pro league and jell together like the U20 did in a league last year.
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What time's the game plz.
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What time is the match????
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7 pm.
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just hear a commercial on ZIZ radio. $20 covered $15 bleachers 7pm "T&T warming up for their Gold Cup qualifiers" lol
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just hear a commercial on ZIZ radio. $20 covered $15 bleachers 7pm "T&T warming up for their Gold Cup qualifiers" lol
You sure they say Gold, could be World and the axecent trow yuh aff.
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ZIZ dont seem like they broadcasting it... they just playing some BBC thing
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Winn FM is bringing it
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/2c3winlive6898/play.asx
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http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/2c3winlive6898/play.asx
Great, works fine. This is Winn FM from Basseterre.
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http://chat.socawarriors.net
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GOAL!!!!!!
21st minute
off corner,
Abu Bakr #4, off his boot.
1-0
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GIVE THANKS E MAN
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1-0 trinidad in 21st...according to the commentator....Randata Abu Bakar headed in from a corner......lolz
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2-0 T&T
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GOAL!!!!!!!!
2-0
possible own goal
was credited to Guerra #13, 27'
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they just announced the Reggae boyz will be in SKN in a week or so.
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offensive mis-communication robs T&T of 3rd goal
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Handball, T&T has a penalty in the 45th minute
saved!
Half Time 2-0
SKN ------ TNT
1 attempt on goal 4
1 saves 0
4 fouls 6
4 corners 3
0 offsides 2
0 yellow/red cards 0
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fuentes being interviewed now
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T&T is a big team up the islands boy!!!!
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T&T is a big team up the islands boy!!!!
lol, ah smellin ah arrow
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This commentator is kicks. ;D
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SKN pull one back
2-1
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schupps St. Kitts
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This commentator is kicks. ;D
yeah they change commentators for the 2nd half
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These fellas trying to re-create the el salvador game or wha?
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2 All now >:(
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All even Steven!
This commentator sound like he just break.
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2-2 :o whats going on with Trini football wow...
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#4 Abu Bakr gets cautioned
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GK sub
Phillips out for Williams
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3-2, T&T back in the lead. Akiel Edwards #3, 71st min
possible this goal was Tinto's, the commentators named him in the final wrap-up
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#13 Guerra is carded
Latapy subs in
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Adams subbed in for Edwards
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FT: T&T 3 - SKN 2
Scorers: Abu Bakr (21'), Guerra (27'), Baptiste (71')
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:whistling:
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What 2 say bout we defence again. St. Kitts score 2 on oui.
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Akile score ???
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FT: T&T 3 - SKN 2
Scorers: Abu Bakr (21'), Guerra (27'), Tinto (71')
Why are we conceding goals to a team like St. Kitts?
I expected us to score at least 3 & to keep a clean sheet!
What the a$$ is up with T&T's defence?
When are we going to start keeping a clean sheet especially against weaker Caribbean opposition like St. Kitts!
Maybe our defenders need a special dedicated defence coach to work with them on how to defend as a team, keep themselves organised and not consistently make silly mistakes!
Allowing in two goals against a team as St. Kitts is totally unacceptable! What does Latas have to say about this?!! Also our strikers are still throwing away too many easy chances and penalties! If we take all our easy chances the winning scoreline would be much wider!
I think we need a tough warm-up game or two before we meet El Salvador on 12th August.
Playing St. Kitts doh really cut it, especially when we don’t beat them by more than 3 – 0!!
Maybe a decently tough game against the likes of Venezuela, Guatemala or Ja is affordable for the JWFF and will help in us having a decent level of preparation for World Cup qualification if we still serious about doing our best to try to qualify!
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STUEPS !
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FT: T&T 3 - SKN 2
Scorers: Abu Bakr (21'), Guerra (27'), Tinto (71')
Why are we conceding goals to a team like St. Kitts?
I expected us to score at least 3 & to keep a clean sheet!
What the a$$ is up with T&T's defence?
When are we going to start keeping a clean sheet especially against weaker Caribbean opposition like St. Kitts!
Maybe our defenders need a special dedicated defence coach to work with them on how to defend as a team, keep themselves organised and not consistently make silly mistakes!
Allowing in two goals against a team as St. Kitts is totally unacceptable! What does Latas have to say about this?!! Also our strikers are still throwing away too many easy chances and penalties! If we take all our easy chances the winning scoreline would be much wider!
I think we need a tough warm-up game or two before we meet El Salvador on 12th August.
Playing St. Kitts doh really cut it, especially when we don’t beat them by more than 3 – 0!!
Maybe a decently tough game against the likes of Venezuela, Guatemala or Ja is affordable for the JWFF and will help in us having a decent level of preparation for World Cup qualification if we still serious about doing our best to try to qualify!
Not sure if this will make you feel any better but this was in th Express article "Locals out to impress Latas"
When T&T last played St Kitts at the same venue, the hosts gave then coach Bertille St Clair's team a run for their money, taking a first half lead before goals by Errol McFarlane and a last-minute winner by Stern John gave the Soca Warriors a 2-1 win in the 2006 World Cup semi-final round qualifier.
When the fans...AND THE PLAYERS... begin to realise that we are not expected to win by walking onto the field against Caribbean opposition not named Jamaica or unfancied opposition on a whole, we would win these games alot more easily..We lost against Grenada in the Digi not because we weeren't better than them but because we played as if we didn't need to play to beat them and we get we ass buss..so I hope they start learning their lessons..
Is damn complacency get us in plenty holes over the years.. in terms of both actual games and preparation for them..
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Steupsss
Again...side to hang...2-0...penalty to seal the deal and we choke.
Then yuh let them score 2.
We really not serious.
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Stueeppps
If think back to the Bermuda game in HCS.. yuh may not be surprised by this performance/result..
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2 pts from 6 games was not by no fluke..
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did latapy really come on?
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Fire Latapy NOW!!!!!! :devil:
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Allyuh doh panic nah. De defence trying to get all their mistakes out of their system..so by the time the world cup qualifier come around....all de mistakes purged out. :devil: Is like conservation of magic dust..and elimination of blight.
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Alyah getting to big for alyah boots ,pleasesssss.these are tough games all local ,our senior b team .we pull off the win ,with out our big stars.Lots of work still left to do ,years of groundwork that never was completed ,latapy trying do lay.
am so proud of Latapy ,trying to help us ,get this thing organized ,cause were so f**ked.
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did latapy really come on?
yes for the latter part of the 2nd half
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did latapy really come on?
yes for the latter part of the 2nd half
so can i come to the conclusion that , this game was just a sweat
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FT: T&T 3 - SKN 2
oh boy :-\
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I really see no reason for panic because of the 2 goals we conceded;St.Kitts is on the same level with any other Caribbean team,TT and Jamaica is a cut above them when they play their overseas stars,but going local they are virtually the same.We saw that in the Digicel but clearly, TT and Jamaica should beat the others 9 out of 10 times which we did.Just take it like a practice session,nothing more,Mexico could only score 2 against us and one ah dem goals was a mistake by our young defender.
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FT: T&T 3 - SKN 2
Scorers: Abu Bakr (21'), Guerra (27'), Tinto (71')
Why are we conceding goals to a team like St. Kitts?
I expected us to score at least 3 & to keep a clean sheet!
What the a$$ is up with T&T's defence?
When are we going to start keeping a clean sheet especially against weaker Caribbean opposition like St. Kitts!
Maybe our defenders need a special dedicated defence coach to work with them on how to defend as a team, keep themselves organised and not consistently make silly mistakes!
Allowing in two goals against a team as St. Kitts is totally unacceptable! What does Latas have to say about this?!! Also our strikers are still throwing away too many easy chances and penalties! If we take all our easy chances the winning scoreline would be much wider!
I think we need a tough warm-up game or two before we meet El Salvador on 12th August.
Playing St. Kitts doh really cut it, especially when we don’t beat them by more than 3 – 0!!
Maybe a decently tough game against the likes of Venezuela, Guatemala or Ja is affordable for the JWFF and will help in us having a decent level of preparation for World Cup qualification if we still serious about doing our best to try to qualify!
Not sure if this will make you feel any better but this was in th Express article "Locals out to impress Latas"
When T&T last played St Kitts at the same venue, the hosts gave then coach Bertille St Clair's team a run for their money, taking a first half lead before goals by Errol McFarlane and a last-minute winner by Stern John gave the Soca Warriors a 2-1 win in the 2006 World Cup semi-final round qualifier.
When the fans...AND THE PLAYERS... begin to realise that we are not expected to win by walking onto the field against Caribbean opposition not named Jamaica or unfancied opposition on a whole, we would win these games alot more easily..We lost against Grenada in the Digi not because we weeren't better than them but because we played as if we didn't need to play to beat them and we get we ass buss..so I hope they start learning their lessons..
Is damn complacency get us in plenty holes over the years.. in terms of both actual games and preparation for them..
True Dat but what about that shabby defense. Or shabbily organised defense.
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It does be reall funny to see the schupidness dat does go through allyuh brains oui! Is like some ah allyuh swear just putting on the uniform means other teams in the region should just drop dong and lewwe score bout 6. With a strictly local team, many of the teams in concacaf are very much even (especially the caribbean outfits). In fact the stongest all local team in the caribbean is probably Haiti and not TnT or Jamaice as many of us delude ourselves into believing. From this excercise I can gather that there is fire power among the locals, but the defensive woes are still present. Not much different when all we overseas based players join up really. I hope all of you who critiquing so strongly willin to credit the positives when they manifest. Aklie Edwards (who is a midfielder in case many of you don't know) has taken quite a bit of fire for not being great in the LB position. In this match he showed where he can be useful to us if he is allowed to do what he is better at. If we could ever place someone in the LM slot that is willing to cover on defense, we can have both Edwards' taking turns overlapping and bringing the ball up the flank. That should be quite a handful for opponents to effectively nullify completely.
Touches how yuh could call the keeper saving Kerry's penalty a choke?. Me eh tryin to school nobody but to me a penalty choke is usually one that misses the target completely. The keeper either has to know tendancies or simply chose a side and if they choose correct I fail to see how the kicker (or his team) can be deemed to have choked in such instance.
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Breds a penalty miss...is a choke
It takes skill yes...one that is practiced...but it is SUPPOSED TO BE A GOAL.
Save, kick over, hit wide...you miss a goal from a set piece with no physical pressure.
I not saying it doh happen to the best...but for some they doh miss often if atall.
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Breds a penalty miss...is a choke
It takes skill yes...one that is practiced...but it is SUPPOSED TO BE A GOAL.
Save, kick over, hit wide...you miss a goal from a set piece with no physical pressure.
I not saying it doh happen to the best...but for some they doh miss often if atall.
But those are special players that I doubt you or anyone else could see a legimate comparison to any of our current crop of local players. I understand your view but unless he telegraph it and the kepper save it, I cah see dat as a choke. Keeper have to make a decision before the ball kick so when they stop it I credit a combination of luck adn good technique to the keeper.
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trinidad is ah shit team. wc 2014 me say
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to me a penalty choke is usually one that misses the target completely.
LOL really? ;D
I thought "choke" is just a slang to describe a situation where someone couldn't execute under pressure...whether the PK was saved, hit the post, or missed the goal completely, if the kicker would more than likely have scored the pk under less intense conditions, yuh could say that he "choked"...
From the highlights it looked as if he kinda telegraphed the shot, and the keeper made a good save.
Whether or not Baptiste choked is a guessing game on our part. If he's ice cold from the spot in practice and hits PKs with more confidence & conviction under less intense conditions, yuh have good grounds for saying that he choked...but it's still a guess.
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boy i see ah lil mexican score a penalty in ah NPSL league game out by me yesterday...if you see how hard da man kick that PK, Buffon woulda had to be standing straight up (and eh dive or nothing) for de ball to hit him to save dat PK.
not to bash Akile (again) eh, but nothing bout dat youth ever give me any indication that he could be a good (meaning international quality) midfielder, nothing! unless he confidence was totally shot under Pacho, we go see what Latas could do.
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to me a penalty choke is usually one that misses the target completely.
LOL really? ;D
I thought "choke" is just a slang to describe a situation where someone couldn't execute under pressure...whether the PK was saved, hit the post, or missed the goal completely, if the kicker would more than likely have scored the pk under less intense conditions, yuh could say that he "choked"...
From the highlights it looked as if he kinda telegraphed the shot, and the keeper made a good save.
Whether or not Baptiste choked is a guessing game on our part. If he's ice cold from the spot in practice and hits PKs with more confidence & conviction under less intense conditions, yuh have good grounds for saying that he choked...but it's still a guess.
Notice the words "to me" eh. Well in my view that would be a half choke, half good save ;D
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to me a penalty choke is usually one that misses the target completely.
LOL really? ;D
I thought "choke" is just a slang to describe a situation where someone couldn't execute under pressure...whether the PK was saved, hit the post, or missed the goal completely, if the kicker would more than likely have scored the pk under less intense conditions, yuh could say that he "choked"...
From the highlights it looked as if he kinda telegraphed the shot, and the keeper made a good save.
Whether or not Baptiste choked is a guessing game on our part. If he's ice cold from the spot in practice and hits PKs with more confidence & conviction under less intense conditions, yuh have good grounds for saying that he choked...but it's still a guess.
Notice the words "to me" eh. Well in my view that would be a half choke, half good save ;D
lol seen :D
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boy i see ah lil mexican score a penalty in ah NPSL league game out by me yesterday...if you see how hard da man kick that PK, Buffon woulda had to be standing straight up (and eh dive or nothing) for de ball to hit him to save dat PK.
not to bash Akile (again) eh, but nothing bout dat youth ever give me any indication that he could be a good (meaning international quality) midfielder, nothing! unless he confidence was totally shot under Pacho, we go see what Latas could do.
Considering he never played his position under Mats I could see that. If you always seeing him at LB and not looking to good for various reasons more often you will not recognize the rare appearances of skill and talent that he has. He is very good with the ball at his feet and not scared to make forward passes as Skilla seems to have become over the last 6-8 months. Funny I hear all kinda excuses fuh Skilla being outta position and looking completely uninterested in imposing his will.
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Breds a penalty miss...is a choke
It takes skill yes...one that is practiced...but it is SUPPOSED TO BE A GOAL.
Save, kick over, hit wide...you miss a goal from a set piece with no physical pressure.
I not saying it doh happen to the best...but for some they doh miss often if atall.
But those are special players that I doubt you or anyone else could see a legimate comparison to any of our current crop of local players. I understand your view but unless he telegraph it and the kepper save it, I cah see dat as a choke. Keeper have to make a decision before the ball kick so when they stop it I credit a combination of luck adn good technique to the keeper.
Breds I know we players not that hot on a intl scale but we ent dat shitty...and a penalty is a different skill.
It is all practice, technique and mental nerves.
If the man is a pro and the designated penalty taker for the side then he should know what he about.
We go agree to disagree...my view is a penalty = goal.
Additionally I doh give the keeper no pips in a penalty save...if the kicker hit it right, it ent have nuttin the keeper could do. All the keeper could do is flap and jump and move to psych out the kicker..but if the kicker know what he about...is goal. Most penalty miss is the kicker making the error.
But let me reiterate my original grouse...as with el salvador..a game is about momentum...when yuh have a side 2-0 and will make it 3-0 and kill a game. You make sure and handle yuh scenes or it will come back to bite yuh in yuh tail.
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Breds a penalty miss...is a choke
It takes skill yes...one that is practiced...but it is SUPPOSED TO BE A GOAL.
Save, kick over, hit wide...you miss a goal from a set piece with no physical pressure.
I not saying it doh happen to the best...but for some they doh miss often if atall.
But those are special players that I doubt you or anyone else could see a legimate comparison to any of our current crop of local players. I understand your view but unless he telegraph it and the kepper save it, I cah see dat as a choke. Keeper have to make a decision before the ball kick so when they stop it I credit a combination of luck adn good technique to the keeper.
Breds I know we players not that hot on a intl scale but we ent dat shitty...and a penalty is a different skill.
It is all practice, technique and mental nerves.
If the man is a pro and the designated penalty taker for the side then he should know what he about.I sure SJ thought he knew wha he was about too, these things does happen.
We go agree to disagree...my view is a penalty = goal.
Additionally I doh give the keeper no pips in a penalty save...if the kicker hit it right, it ent have nuttin the keeper could do. All the keeper could do is flap and jump and move to psych out the kicker..but if the kicker know what he about...is goal. Most penalty miss is the kicker making the error.
But let me reiterate my original grouse...as with el salvador..a game is about momentum...when yuh have a side 2-0 and will make it 3-0 and kill a game. You make sure and handle yuh scenes or it will come back to bite yuh in yuh tail.
So when Jans Lehmann did it in WC06 after making note of the tendancies of the kickers, was that kicker error or a well prepared goal keeper?
Next question, how many PKs has Kerry missed while in this position on the NT?
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Breds I know we players not that hot on a intl scale but we ent dat shitty...and a penalty is a different skill.
It is all practice, technique and mental nerves.
If the man is a pro and the designated penalty taker for the side then he should know what he about.
We go agree to disagree...my view is a penalty = goal.
Additionally I doh give the keeper no pips in a penalty save...if the kicker hit it right, it ent have nuttin the keeper could do. All the keeper could do is flap and jump and move to psych out the kicker..but if the kicker know what he about...is goal. Most penalty miss is the kicker making the error.
But let me reiterate my original grouse...as with el salvador..a game is about momentum...when yuh have a side 2-0 and will make it 3-0 and kill a game. You make sure and handle yuh scenes or it will come back to bite yuh in yuh tail.
Alotta penalties at the highest level (I might even say most of them) are not very well struck/placed for argument sake...Alotta times the keeper went the wrong way, get a finger to it etc..In fact, many times I wonder how highly paid pro players with such flawless technique don't score more convincing penalties- what you describe there is the unstoppable penalty...it does exist, but not as often, and clearly not as easily as you imply. Even the PKs that Yorke rolls calmly and confidently into the net could be saved under different circumstances and with a different twist of fortune. So even if the kicker knows what he's about, yuh still have the element of the unknown when it comes to PKs..... that's why a shootout is often referred to as a lottery. 7 outta 10 times Baptiste penalty woulda hit the net and we woulda walk away without a whisper. That's just the nature of the beast.
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Breds a penalty miss...is a choke
It takes skill yes...one that is practiced...but it is SUPPOSED TO BE A GOAL.
Save, kick over, hit wide...you miss a goal from a set piece with no physical pressure.
I not saying it doh happen to the best...but for some they doh miss often if atall.
But those are special players that I doubt you or anyone else could see a legimate comparison to any of our current crop of local players. I understand your view but unless he telegraph it and the kepper save it, I cah see dat as a choke. Keeper have to make a decision before the ball kick so when they stop it I credit a combination of luck adn good technique to the keeper.
Breds I know we players not that hot on a intl scale but we ent dat shitty...and a penalty is a different skill.
It is all practice, technique and mental nerves.
If the man is a pro and the designated penalty taker for the side then he should know what he about.I sure SJ thought he knew wha he was about too, these things does happen.
We go agree to disagree...my view is a penalty = goal.
Additionally I doh give the keeper no pips in a penalty save...if the kicker hit it right, it ent have nuttin the keeper could do. All the keeper could do is flap and jump and move to psych out the kicker..but if the kicker know what he about...is goal. Most penalty miss is the kicker making the error.
But let me reiterate my original grouse...as with el salvador..a game is about momentum...when yuh have a side 2-0 and will make it 3-0 and kill a game. You make sure and handle yuh scenes or it will come back to bite yuh in yuh tail.
So when Jans Lehmann did it in WC06 after making note of the tendancies of the kickers, was that kicker error or a well prepared goal keeper?
Next question, how many PKs has Kerry missed while in this position on the NT?
Ques 1)He did his homework on the habit of the kickers...and reduced the odds.
Ques 2)Considering he doh get to sweat that much and get to take penalties...from my recollection I would say this is his first and he was unsuccessful. ( Could be wrong though I await your answer to this stat)
Arghm your last question trying to do what...show that the man choke on his first penalty?
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allyuh men really have no respect for keepers yes.
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some ah allyuh men really have no respect for keepers yes.
fixed. I think touches see's them as cones on penalty kicks. So if as a kicker you hit the cone then yuh choke. :devil:
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it looked like Guerra was about to collapse just after that chest bump @ 4:05. For goodness sake, please hit the gym, fellas.