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Sports => Football => Topic started by: triniairman on August 08, 2009, 11:50:47 PM
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whoa!
good thing u make this thread yes....i clean forgot about this game!
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sammy is not like u going to miss much. anyways mi money on didier for ah brace
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Chelsea - 4 Manchester Utd - 0
(doh say ah word cheyenne........lol)
ah love it!!
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way.. cyar beleive season in upon us already...
my prediction: early realization that Cr7 and tevez will be missed,
Blues 2-0 ;D
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way.. cyar beleive season in upon us already...
my prediction: early realization that Cr7 and tevez will be missed,
Blues 2-0 ;D
It have a reason they does go on d field and play d game. Man Utd 1-0 so far and dictating everything. Many stars have come and gone through d doors at old trafford but 'in fergie we trust'
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1-0 United....so far dat Chelsea diamond attack looking more like cubic zirconia..... :-X
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1-0 United....so far dat Chelsea diamond attack looking more like cubic zirconia..... :-X
:rotfl: :rotfl: yuh have meh rolling wid dat one :rotfl:
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chelsea are still getting acoustomed to this new formation. some players seem not to be too aware of their role.
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chelsea are still getting acoustomed to this new formation. some players seem not to be too aware of their role.
It look like they arguing amongst themselves
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way.. cyar beleive season in upon us already...
my prediction: early realization that Cr7 and tevez will be missed,
Blues 2-0 ;D
Haterz dont realise that Man Utd is a bess side even without the BIG name rosters. All that talk about no-one wants to join united didnt really have no effect the fans.
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chelsea are still getting acoustomed to this new formation. some players seem not to be too aware of their role.
Strange since they've employed it before under Mourinho and Grant, only for them to abandon it when they realised that it just doesn't work.
Due to the lack of width, Uniteds full backs are able to bomb forward almost at will.
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sammy is not like u going to miss much. anyways mi money on didier for ah brace
look like yuh losing that bet boy!!! ;D
Evra and Nani combining well. foster looks a lil shaky and Berbatov still slow. Owen should come on for Berbatov.
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It have a reason they does go on d field and play d game. Man Utd 1-0 so far and dictating everything. Many stars have come and gone through d doors at old trafford but 'in fergie we trust'
no lie eh
de man system is one of the recent best
i eh go lie...dat new kit real shitty lookin
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1-1 now! Carvalho got the equaliser with a header
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chelsea are still getting acoustomed to this new formation. some players seem not to be too aware of their role.
Strange since they've employed it before under Mourinho and Grant, only for them to abandon it when they realised that it just doesn't work.
Due to the lack of width, Uniteds full backs are able to bomb forward almost at will.
......and because Chelsea INSIST on making Lampard the man spearheading the diamond! I like 'im as a player and everyting.....his role on the team is invaluable.....but not in that position.....good hustle by Drogba....game tied...
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Goal Chealsea... ;D this looks more like it iono wth was that in the fist half...
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dem devils smokin mad now
fergie brings in wholesale changes ;D
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How much Chelsea pay this ref dred?!! Both Chelsea goals are bogus!! First one Drogba blatantly bump the keeper so he couldn't clear properly, and second goal the referee stick on that foul against Valencia....so yuh playin to ah whistle...but shit man...he just stop de damn game when Ballack fall down
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How much Chelsea pay this ref dred?!! Both Chelsea goals are bogus!! First one Drogba blatantly bump the keeper so he couldn't clear properly, and second goal the referee stick on that foul against Valencia....so yuh playin to ah whistle...but shit man...he just stop de damn game when Ballack fall down
Boo fackin hoo! 8)
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boo hoo manu blame the ref
told you chelsea is the team to be very weary of
berbatov is a waste of money lazy and holding back allyuh side
chelsea is muscle, talented experienced muscle, need to be a team that can out play them for 90+ otherwise expect to get punished
manu and liverpool starting this season with weakened sides Arsenal to an extent too
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How much Chelsea pay this ref dred?!! Both Chelsea goals are bogus!! First one Drogba blatantly bump the keeper so he couldn't clear properly, and second goal the referee stick on that foul against Valencia....so yuh playin to ah whistle...but shit man...he just stop de damn game when Ballack fall down
Questions. Was it Evra who bump his own keeper?
Was it Evra who bump Drogba into the keeper?
All said it did not look like a foul to me, but I have seen less called once keepers are touched
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BEAUTY!!!!!!!!! BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!....Good prevails over evil.......ManU scores its second authentic goal to Chelsea's two referee bought goals.....Ah mean shit man...thank u fadder!!!
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rooney was offside , i called it b4 i saw d replay. its 1 that u cant blame a refree 4 cause its that close. but if u watching it on fc u can tell that the commentators are biased towards particular team. on to penalties my fav.
by the way the 2 sides them playing sh*t.
the highlight ah d game was berbatov control of a long ball.
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How much Chelsea pay this ref dred?!! Both Chelsea goals are bogus!! First one Drogba blatantly bump the keeper so he couldn't clear properly, and second goal the referee stick on that foul against Valencia....so yuh playin to ah whistle...but shit man...he just stop de damn game when Ballack fall down
Questions. Was it Evra who bump his own keeper?
Was it Evra who bump Drogba into the keeper?
All said it did not look like a foul to me, but I have seen less called once keepers are touched
Hoss I have de game recording and I look at that play over and over and I truly believe that Drogba thought Foster was the football; de way he dive into him.LOL!!...but it is a well known fact that Drogba is a dirty player...so no suprise there!!!
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good win Chelsea! Nice tough game played.
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How much Chelsea pay this ref dred?!! Both Chelsea goals are bogus!! First one Drogba blatantly bump the keeper so he couldn't clear properly, and second goal the referee stick on that foul against Valencia....so yuh playin to ah whistle...but shit man...he just stop de damn game when Ballack fall down
Questions. Was it Evra who bump his own keeper?
Was it Evra who bump Drogba into the keeper?
All said it did not look like a foul to me, but I have seen less called once keepers are touched
Hoss I have de game recording and I look at that play over and over and I truly believe that Drogba thought Foster was the football; de way he dive into him.LOL!!...but it is a well known fact that Drogba is a dirty player...so no suprise there!!!
Exactly my point. You have the luxuary to observe it over and over and then decide. So Thanks.
Good second half by Chelsea quite inspired
PS: Evra kick he penalty like he playing wid he daughter as goalkeeper.
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rooney was offside , i called it b4 i saw d replay. its 1 that u cant blame a refree 4 cause its that close. but if u watching it on fc u can tell that the commentators are biased towards particular team. on to penalties my fav.
by the way the 2 sides them playing sh*t.
the highlight ah d game was berbatov control of a long ball.
thats your highlight? a f**king trap? boy that says alot about you and your football than the game that played today
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What the hell happened to Extra Time? If they take it out of this they going to take it out of the FA Cup and Carling Cup also??
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
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Will be an interesting season. Man U are definitely not the invincible...Arsenal selling players like is a game, and Chelsea's players seem to love Ancellotti...'Pool manage to hold on to Mascherano (only by a whisker)...And the race will get off next week
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and the manboo-hoo-hoo-ing begins.........this is a team that gets more calls than a hot chick walking past a construction site and when things "balance out" agianst them all their fans can do is bitch and moan. Imagine a man that support a team with the likes of paul scholes and the biggest cheating alumnus in all footbal in chrisitiana ronalda on its roster, have balls to point finger and call man dirty.......I agree that Ballack foul evra and the ref should have called a foul, but what kinda bitch player he is to be laying down holding his face (when Ballack clearly hit in in his chest) so long after the play has continued, a goal has scored and it's clear that the ref is NOT going to give you the call you're asking for? man......big facking steups.....take allyuh loss in an insignificant cup tie and go home oui!
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and the manboo-hoo-hoo-ing begins.........this is a team that gets more calls than a hot chick walking past a construction site and when things "balance out" agianst them all their fans can do is bitch and moan. Imagine a man that support a team with the likes of paul scholes and the biggest cheating alumnus in all footbal in chrisitiana ronalda on its roster, have balls to point finger and call man dirty.......I agree that Ballack foul evra and the ref should have called a foul, but what kinda bitch player he is to be laying down holding his face (when Ballack clearly hit in in his chest) so long after the play has continued, a goal has scored and it's clear that the ref is NOT going to give you the call you're asking for? man......big facking steups.....take allyuh loss in an insignificant cup tie and go home oui!
Uhh Chow you didnt get the Memo? Ronaldo at Real Madrid
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
Berba rel pulling stones dread
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
I disagree with you on Foster. Other than a couple situations where he had balls played back to him and he may have looked a little unsettled with the opponents' resulting pressure on him (which a LOT of 'keepers would struggle with and more teams need to do like Chelsea did) I find he had a brilliant game and made some very good saves to keep manu in the game.
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and the manboo-hoo-hoo-ing begins.........this is a team that gets more calls than a hot chick walking past a construction site and when things "balance out" agianst them all their fans can do is bitch and moan. Imagine a man that support a team with the likes of paul scholes and the biggest cheating alumnus in all footbal in chrisitiana ronalda on its roster, have balls to point finger and call man dirty.......I agree that Ballack foul evra and the ref should have called a foul, but what kinda bitch player he is to be laying down holding his face (when Ballack clearly hit in in his chest) so long after the play has continued, a goal has scored and it's clear that the ref is NOT going to give you the call you're asking for? man......big facking steups.....take allyuh loss in an insignificant cup tie and go home oui!
Uhh Chow you didnt get the Memo? Ronaldo at Real Madrid
That's why I referred to him as an "alumnus" Reaper. I talking about the broader scope/history of how manu has benefitted from poor officiatiang that went their way and how much he spearheaded that campaign while he was there.
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and the manboo-hoo-hoo-ing begins.........this is a team that gets more calls than a hot chick walking past a construction site and when things "balance out" agianst them all their fans can do is bitch and moan. Imagine a man that support a team with the likes of paul scholes and the biggest cheating alumnus in all footbal in chrisitiana ronalda on its roster, have balls to point finger and call man dirty.......I agree that Ballack foul evra and the ref should have called a foul, but what kinda bitch player he is to be laying down holding his face (when Ballack clearly hit in in his chest) so long after the play has continued, a goal has scored and it's clear that the ref is NOT going to give you the call you're asking for? man......big facking steups.....take allyuh loss in an insignificant cup tie and go home oui!
Uhh Chow you didnt get the Memo? Ronaldo at Real Madrid
That's why I referred to him as an "alumnus" Reaper. I talking about the broader scope/history of how manu has benefitted from poor officiatiang that went their way and how much he spearheaded that campaign while he was there.
After he left I wouldnt consider him part of the Alumni, yea he played good when he feels like it but when it came to his attitude forget it.
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
Berba rel pulling stones dread
I never liked him at United, I had a feeling his style of play would not compliment Man.U, and I was right...Small Mag has faith in him, I don't really like him on this team, I mean he got good control and upper body strength, but he does not have that EXTRA skill Tevez, Rooney or Ronaldo have to strike fear in opposing teams defense.
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and the manboo-hoo-hoo-ing begins.........this is a team that gets more calls than a hot chick walking past a construction site and when things "balance out" agianst them all their fans can do is bitch and moan. Imagine a man that support a team with the likes of paul scholes and the biggest cheating alumnus in all footbal in chrisitiana ronalda on its roster, have balls to point finger and call man dirty.......I agree that Ballack foul evra and the ref should have called a foul, but what kinda bitch player he is to be laying down holding his face (when Ballack clearly hit in in his chest) so long after the play has continued, a goal has scored and it's clear that the ref is NOT going to give you the call you're asking for? man......big facking steups.....take allyuh loss in an insignificant cup tie and go home oui!
Uhh Chow you didnt get the Memo? Ronaldo at Real Madrid
That's why I referred to him as an "alumnus" Reaper. I talking about the broader scope/history of how manu has benefitted from poor officiatiang that went their way and how much he spearheaded that campaign while he was there.
After he left I wouldnt consider him part of the Alumni, yea he played good when he feels like it but when it came to his attitude forget it.
OK.....when he was there and y'all was winning with his antics, I could never get a manboo fan to admit to his antics (or attitude, for that matter) and how much y'all benefitted from it. Middlsbrough is the first team that comes to mind for how many times and how significantly I have seen that team suffer at the hands of cronalda and his attitude/antics. Now you say you don't consider him an alumnus? OK. I hear yuh patnuh!
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
I disagree with you on Foster. Other than a couple situations where he had balls played back to him and he may have looked a little unsettled with the opponents' resulting pressure on him (which a LOT of 'keepers would struggle with and more teams need to do like Chelsea did) I find he had a brilliant game and made some very good saves to keep manu in the game.
Well to be fair, I did make my assessment on those back passes and the way he came for the ball on the corner that resulted in the goal, I thought he could have gotton more hand on that ball, but like someone pointed out, Drogba thought he was the ball lol.
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- The game change when Bosingwa came on
- Chelsea still have some work to do on the diamond.
- Cech shoulda save de first goal
- I dont find Drogba foul the keeper, he couldve gotten a bigger hand on that punch.
- The 2nd chelsea goal was a kinda bad call but play to de whistle.
- Evra had ah real sour afternoon lol.
- Foster look real shaky.
- Doh sleep on Nani this year.
- Why did they announce man of the match 5 mins before the game finish? Look the game had another twist.
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Charity Shields mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Chelseas first goal came as a result of Foster punching the ball into Carvalho's path and has to go down as a mistake. The second goal came when Evra lay in a heap at the other end of the pitch while the United players were urging Chelsea to put it out of play. Seeing as how the referee and United were forced to stop play a few minutes beforehand when Ballack lay crumpled on the floor after being pushed (and then immediately getting up when he got the decision), I thought United complaints were justified.
Chelsea are pretty formidable using a 4-3-3 system have enjoyed a lot of success with it in the past. If they persist with Ancelotti's diamond formation, I can see them dropping points in the league as theres no width and it gives the opposition full backs (and wingers) the run of the field and basically invites people to get in behind them. Its too narrow.
Saying that, United did well to pull it back at the end and thats very encouraging for the new season.
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MoM was Cech because he kept Chelski in making saves against Berba and Park.
Park as much as he is hustle man, he is limited and he gets exposed against better sides. He should never start another final inless it is against the bottom and middle feeders of the league.
Foster was shaky and he should have done a better job at saving Lumpard's shot. As old as VDS is the one of his strengths is the calmness he brings to the back. I hope Foster can go from strength to strength as he plays more games. Sure Fabio was not impressed; he almost appears to become hyperactive on the pitch.
Berba will have a much better year, not giving up on him, he brings more to the table than Tevez. He may need to play with Owens vs Rooney or he and Rooney need to communciate better as far as who staying up and who dropping back.
If the only way Valencia is going to get by a man is push and run well he will have some problems.
Nani still taking to much time on the ball.
I was hopin when Evra clean up Ballack, Ballack didn't get up. Nasty piece of German shite! Chow yuh want fake and drama, you have got in with Bullocks and Drogba. You can't point your finger at Ronaldo anymore.
Game changed when Lumpard was given a more freer role alowing him to start influencing things.
Enjoy yuh trophy Chelski fans it was a nice gift given to you my United :devil:
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Lol men panicking in pre season yes
Positive performance in the 1st half by United .. poor from 55th onwards... Good determination to get the equaliser... was offside but Lampard's goal should have never occured because of a clear foul on Evra by that footballing irritant German bastard
Penalties were shocking by Giggs and Evra but credit to Chelsea for converting theirs
Foster was very nervous and he is a great potential..hopefully he can get it together over the next month as our number 1...
I dont know where Berba pull stones? I thought he had a good game... only thing he did wrong was try to be cute with his attempt in the 1st half but it was a brilliant save by Cech.. who imo saved Chelsea in the 1st half
We should have ended the game in the 1st half but good work out and game
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Fack al ah alyuh. Whole time alyuh in asia playing popcorn football and posting scores big. Now all of a sudden the Charity sheild counts for nothing. If Man United had won, you would have heard home much world champions they are. Thake alyuh licks, we will dispose of yous when we meet you in the league.
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Game was going good until ref spoil the game when Ballack get the mystery call and Evra didnt get the blatant one.
I though the ref should only stop the game if there is a head/serious injury?
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Nani dislocated his shoulder, not looking too good..
this man utd side have licks to get.
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Fack al ah alyuh. Whole time alyuh in asia playing popcorn football and posting scores big. Now all of a sudden the Charity sheild counts for nothing. If Man United had won, you would have heard home much world champions they are. Thake alyuh licks, we will dispose of yous when we meet you in the league.
You drink some mad juice today awat, why are you so angry? lol Yuh want us to come on here an bragg we were beaten? We were poor today, Chelsea beat us with the help of some poor refereeing...Congrats to all Chelsea fans!!!! Save all that anger for when we win the league again lol.
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How dem Chelski fans acting like a bunch of nevaseecome see so? Is happy all yuh so happy tuh finally beat United? Enjoy, maybe Terry and the boys will invite allyuh tuh party wit dem tonite!
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I was trying to figure out why people hate ManU so much... Yes I am a Chelsea fan, and would back any team playing against MAnU... I don't feel that hatred for any team as much as Manu..Why is it?? I have been trying to figure out why, and from reading and listening I have come to the conclusion it is because of their fans....
They will never admit they wrong or they lose because they do sh!t... Is always we beat ourselves or some chupidness.Or that cup doh mean anything to us...... Yes Evra get hit in he chest, but like a typical Manu Ronaldo play he holding he face....
Yes Drogba is get a small touch on he face and grab it like he get a left hook from Tyson, and yes it is considered cheating, but Evra grab his face when he was not hit in his face at all. and that is even worse... It remind me of when the next a$$ from Brasil did that in the WC a few years ago, the fella kick de ball and hit his foot, and he grab his face.....yes cheating is cheating but that is just low...
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rooney was offside , i called it b4 i saw d replay. its 1 that u cant blame a refree 4 cause its that close. but if u watching it on fc u can tell that the commentators are biased towards particular team. on to penalties my fav.
by the way the 2 sides them playing sh*t.
the highlight ah d game was berbatov control of a long ball.
thats your highlight? a f**king trap? boy that says alot about you and your football than the game that played today
gunner stunner. 1 i am sure u didnt see the trap
2. i am a barca man so i does see more than 90% ah their games
3. dont know what sch u went to but if i am saying that the high pt of the game was a trap then i am alluding to the fact that 2 me the game was shite. class dismissed
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Fack al ah alyuh. Whole time alyuh in asia playing popcorn football and posting scores big. Now all of a sudden the Charity sheild counts for nothing. If Man United had won, you would have heard home much world champions they are. Thake alyuh licks, we will dispose of yous when we meet you in the league.
You drink some mad juice today awat, why are you so angry? lol Yuh want us to come on here an bragg we were beaten? We were poor today, Chelsea beat us with the help of some poor refereeing...Congrats to all Chelsea fans!!!! Save all that anger for when we win the league again lol.
Nah I not mad, just getting warmed up for the season :devil:
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
Berba rel pulling stones dread
I'm very concerned about that jed, Berbs is one ah d men who have to step his game up this yr in a big way due to d players we lost. Along with Nani and Carrick the pressure is on him. Owen is a last 20 minutes man at this moment so we need Berba getting lots of goals. The commentator was right when he said Berba and Rooney come back for d ball and there is nobody makin a run in behind the defence, i guess thats where Owen comes in to play cuz I dont c Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson and the others in midfield makin runs like that and getting goals from the midfield.
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LOL @ Mid Table United Fans getting their panties in a knot about refereeing decisions.
RE: Patrice Evra - United maintained posession of the ball, advantage was played. The referee was in plain sight of the alledged foul. Ref motions play on due to United's advantage, so play to the whistle.
Fergie bemoans how the ref didn't stop the game. HOWEVER IT IS FERGIE WHO COMMANDED HIS PLAYERS NOT TO PUT THE BALL OUT OF PLAY UNLESS IT IS A HEAD INJURY ... but too bad that Evra was feigning a head injury when he was bumped in his chest. Sh!t like that happens when you send a brittle batty boy to play a man's game (see Nani incident too)
Why was Fergie so quiet about the ref not stopping the game when Rooney scored his offside goal?
ManU's defence looked like crap. Booting long balls forward and passing to who - all that nonsense about United's fullbacks dominating the game came to nothing when they forgot to mark Lampard, who clinically finished. At least you couldn't blame Foster for that one.
Talking about Foster. He supposed to be England #1 this week, but the man is a rank hound, and pre-season have nothing to do about form. He does look like if he dodging traffic on the highway rather than playing football. Saw in an article that the only reason everybody does rate him, is because he could never get a sweat. That kinda put him in the same category as Darryl Roberts.
Foster was hailed as the next greatest thing when he used his iPod to help him save penalties against Portsmouth(??) in that cup final last year. What happen to his iPod yesterday? - did he not charge it Saturday night ... or did his girlfriend mistakingly mixup both of their pink iPod minis?
The way things look for United this season - esp with Foster starting, is they should be good for collecting at least 3.875 goals per game. With Berbatov upfront, don't depend on goals there - and with Owen likely to be injured by breaking a toenail in the locker-room - no subs will be available. With that leaky defence, they will concede alot. -25 in the Goal (dis)advantage column seems likely for the first 10 games of the season. I'd look to Villa or Manchester City to replace United in the Top 4 this season.
So Man U fan - 3 Finals in the last few months. 3 big losses. Glory Glory?
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The Coom Shield is strictly for bragging rights. So Im bragging. Licks in Man-boo tail. Having said that It will be a long season and Alex Ferguson is a master so expect man-boo to still have a good showing.
This year is like a present to chelsea. If they dont take de league dis year then they never will.
Did I mention we buss way man-boo tail... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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This is so predictable and amusing. ManUre was looking nice in the first half as my team got the kinks out. Ivanovic and Mikel off and the game changes. Bosingwa unlike Ivanovic has the speed to catch the likes of Nani and Evra on the wing, and with Ballack there to enforce Evra had to know that shit was done. I am glad that ManUre benefitted from a bullshit offsides goal (even though their fans would never admit it) to even the score. Had Chelsea won in regular time after that second goal it would have been on and on with the ref cheated for the Blues and so on. ManUre fans either blind or schupid (I know its the latter) to be moaning about a call when Rooney had possession at the time Ballack deliver a friendly message to Evra (that he need to stop comin in big man territory) :rotfl: No whistle, keep playing intead of moaning like fools. For the jackasses who talkin bout Drogba foul Foster I doubt any of you would have complained if it were reversed and the same no call occured. Man talkin shit bout the diamond but it will work fine with Ballack on the right and Essien in holding. Malouda may need to be sacrificed though because Lampard is too uninvolved playing as a CAM (based on yesterdays first half) and works a lot better on the left side. Decent game decided rightfully by PKs.
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fear not,de real dance startin next week.manchester goin fuh no.19
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
I disagree with you on Foster. Other than a couple situations where he had balls played back to him and he may have looked a little unsettled with the opponents' resulting pressure on him (which a LOT of 'keepers would struggle with and more teams need to do like Chelsea did) I find he had a brilliant game and made some very good saves to keep manu in the game.
Brilliant? We obviously saw two different games. He was shaky on the back pass, and should have gotten enough on the second goal to deflect it around the post. He looked short of match sharpness, and Sir Alex said that in his post match analysis of Foster's performance. He is a good 'keeper, and I tip him to rebound from this. He was definitely substandard yesterday.
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
I disagree with you on Foster. Other than a couple situations where he had balls played back to him and he may have looked a little unsettled with the opponents' resulting pressure on him (which a LOT of 'keepers would struggle with and more teams need to do like Chelsea did) I find he had a brilliant game and made some very good saves to keep manu in the game.
Brilliant? We obviously saw two different games. He was shaky on the back pass, and should have gotten enough on the second goal to deflect it around the post. He looked short of match sharpness, and Sir Alex said that in his post match analysis of Foster's performance. He is a good 'keeper, and I tip him to rebound from this. He was definitely substandard yesterday.
Yes, obviously we did. I don't understand where you getting that a player (any player) would "...look short on match fitness...." in a pre-season game. Please explain what it was about his game that showed a lack of "match fitness"? I mean, he was tired in the 50th minute or wha? Yes he was shaky on two back passes, the first of which was one that his defender shouldn't have made because Drogba was within 10-15 yards of the 'keeper and he did what smart players should do more often and put pressure on the 'keeper. Since the rule change on back passes, most 'keepers would still have trouble playing a back pass at their feet if an opponent put pressure on him. To me you can take that with a grain of salt because more players need to do what Drogba did on both of those back passes. He made at least two close range saves (Drogba again on one of them) that were most impressive and kept his team in the game. Saying that he could have done better on the 2nd goal is like saying a 'keeper coulda do better on a penalty. Lampard teed-up from 15 yards and most 'keepers might not have even gotten their hand to that shot. I would quicker give Lampard credit for taking a good shot with the right amount of power and placement than to blame Foster on that goal. the man was at least 4 yards off his line and while that might the goal a smaller target for Lampard, it also cuts down the 'keeper's reaction time. Just getting a hand to it was impressive enough.
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1. Nani's goal possibly should have been saved by Cech (possibly poor positioning, possibly confusion with Terry).
2. Park is clearly a situational player, used to shut down a dangerous threat/s in the opposition's team. I assume he was there to put additional pressure on the midfield and Chelsea's defense (and to be fair he kept Cole back for much of the match).
But let's just say having both him and O'Shea down the right is not exactly the most potent combination. Valencia will likely start there more often than not (with Park & Fletcher there in defensive pinches) and Nani, Tosic (& eventually Obertan) fighting it out on the left.
3. Berbatov will likely never be a go-to goalscorer for Utd - neither him nor Rooney are natural finishers. Rather the goals lost by the departure of Ronaldo (and to an extent Tevez) will have to be spread throughout the team - with the likely end of season club top scorers being Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Valencia & Nani (Macheda will also get his opportunities, along with Diouf possibly being added to the mix in January).
4. Chelsea's first came from Nani not tracking Carvalho - which pretty much made his performance on the night a wash (goal scored, goal conceded).
5. Chelsea's second was left (as set in the rules) to the discretion of the ref and the players. If the ref deemed Evra to be sufficiently injured then he could have stopped the match - conversely Chelsea could have kicked the ball out. The gap left by Evra being out of the game meant a wide open shot for Lampard.
That said - Utd should have adapted to cover his position and Foster definitely should have saved the shot.
The goal was perfectly legal in the rules of the game - which is exactly what the ref will claim.
6. Rooney's goal was not offside - Cole played him on on the far side. What Chelsea's defensive line was doing so high - I have no idea. But there needs to be clear daylight between the attacker and the defender (with the attacker getting the benefit of any doubt) - Rooney's was thus a perfectly good goal.
7. The penalties are a crap shoot. They were poor by Utd, and to say Cech was a hero is hyperbole to the extreme. But shit happens in these things - Utd win them as much as they lose them - and u only have to ask John Terry what it means to miss them in a game that actually matters.
This game thankfully - outside of bragging rights - does not. That it gives u an edge in the season is unfounded considering until recently 8 of the winners in a row did not win the title - and that Utd started horribly to begin last season even though they triumphed in the CS.
To say Utd got lix after 2 soft goals and a penalty shootout, is quite simply baiting of the highest order :)
Thoughts for the start of the season:
Foster isn't ready (and I'm not convinced he'll ever be - nor can he seem to stay fit). His injury may be what Tomas needs to stake his claim.
Silva on Utd might be nice (though I'm not sure it makes sense financially or practically given his slight frame).
Utd need central midfield reinforcement - Chelsea overpowered them and Barca outplayed them - Carrick, Giggs, Anderson, Fletcher, Gibson, Scholes - looks less impressive than I'd like to say.
A fully fit Essien over a season makes Chelsea just that much more dangerous (the 1st player I would take from Chelsea if I had a chance).
Evra is a beast - Utd's most impressive player on the day for me - the penalty was awful but I don't count that against him.
Berbatov had an ok game - some nice touches - not not enough penetration. He needs to concentrate less on the flicks and tricks and be more of a CF for us this season - but facilitation really seems to be where he thrives. He would really be something next to a more direct striker - but Rooney has shown for England that he has the potential to be that. Can Berbatov be Wayne's Heskey? I guess only time will tell - size & style wise it seems unlikely though.
At the end of the day both teams seemed pretty evenly matched on a whole - I thought Utd looked more incisive, whereas Chelsea understandably lacked width and looked for the most part like the bulldozing Chelsea of old (Mikel ain't Makalele & Ivanovic isn't a RB). But 2-2 was about fair at the end of the day - no shame losing on penalties.
Bring on the real deal - let's get this party started!
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1. Nani's goal possibly should have been saved by Cech (possibly poor positioning, possibly confusion with Terry).
2. Park is clearly a situational player, used to shut down a dangerous threat/s in the opposition's team. I assume he was there to put additional pressure on the midfield and Chelsea's defense (and to be fair he kept Cole back for much of the match).
But let's just say having both him and O'Shea down the right is not exactly the most potent combination. Valencia will likely start there more often than not (with Park & Fletcher there in defensive pinches) and Nani, Tosic (& eventually Obertan) fighting it out on the left.
3. Berbatov will likely never be a go-to goalscorer for Utd - neither him nor Rooney are natural finishers. Rather the goals lost by the departure of Ronaldo (and to an extent Tevez) will have to be spread throughout the team - with the likely end of season club top scorers being Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Valencia & Nani (Macheda will also get his opportunities, along with Diouf possibly being added to the mix in January).
4. Chelsea's first came from Nani not tracking Carvalho - which pretty much made his performance on the night a wash (goal scored, goal conceded).
5. Chelsea's second was left (as set in the rules) to the discretion of the ref and the players. If the ref deemed Evra to be sufficiently injured then he could have stopped the match - conversely Chelsea could have kicked the ball out. The gap left by Evra being out of the game meant a wide open shot for Lampard.
That said - Utd should have adapted to cover his position and Foster definitely should have saved the shot.
The goal was perfectly legal in the rules of the game - which is exactly what the ref will claim.
6. Rooney's goal was not offside - Cole played him on on the far side. What Chelsea's defensive line was doing so high - I have no idea. But there needs to be clear daylight between the attacker and the defender (with the attacker getting the benefit of any doubt) - Rooney's was thus a perfectly good goal.
7. The penalties are a crap shoot. They were poor by Utd, and to say Cech was a hero is hyperbole to the extreme. But shit happens in these things - Utd win them as much as they lose them - and u only have to ask John Terry what it means to miss them in a game that actually matters.
This game thankfully - outside of bragging rights - does not. That it gives u an edge in the season is unfounded considering until recently 8 of the winners in a row did not win the title - and that Utd started horribly to begin last season even though they triumphed in the CS.
To say Utd got lix after 2 soft goals and a penalty shootout, is quite simply baiting of the highest order :)
Thoughts for the start of the season:
Foster isn't ready (and I'm not convinced he'll ever be - nor can he seem to stay fit). His injury may be what Tomas needs to stake his claim.
Silva on Utd might be nice (though I'm not sure it makes sense financially or practically given his slight frame).
Utd need central midfield reinforcement - Chelsea overpowered them and Barca outplayed them - Carrick, Giggs, Anderson, Fletcher, Gibson, Scholes - looks less impressive than I'd like to say.
A fully fit Essien over a season makes Chelsea just that much more dangerous (the 1st player I would take from Chelsea if I had a chance).
Evra is a beast - Utd's most impressive player on the day for me - the penalty was awful but I don't count that against him.
Berbatov had an ok game - some nice touches - not not enough penetration. He needs to concentrate less on the flicks and tricks and be more of a CF for us this season - but facilitation really seems to be where he thrives. He would really be something next to a more direct striker - but Rooney has shown for England that he has the potential to be that. Can Berbatov be Wayne's Heskey? I guess only time will tell - size & style wise it seems unlikely though.
At the end of the day both teams seemed pretty evenly matched on a whole - I thought Utd looked more incisive, whereas Chelsea understandably lacked width and looked for the most part like the bulldozing Chelsea of old (Mikel ain't Makalele & Ivanovic isn't a RB). But 2-2 was about fair at the end of the day - no shame losing on penalties.
Bring on the real deal - let's get this party started!
Yeah ok, did you see a different set of camera angles than was shown on TV?
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3 Cup Finals lost in 4 months, 2 of their most influential players walk out on the squad, a bankrupt shirt sponsor and a shitty uniform.
glory glory.
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1. Nani's goal possibly should have been saved by Cech (possibly poor positioning, possibly confusion with Terry).
2. Park is clearly a situational player, used to shut down a dangerous threat/s in the opposition's team. I assume he was there to put additional pressure on the midfield and Chelsea's defense (and to be fair he kept Cole back for much of the match).
But let's just say having both him and O'Shea down the right is not exactly the most potent combination. Valencia will likely start there more often than not (with Park & Fletcher there in defensive pinches) and Nani, Tosic (& eventually Obertan) fighting it out on the left.
3. Berbatov will likely never be a go-to goalscorer for Utd - neither him nor Rooney are natural finishers. Rather the goals lost by the departure of Ronaldo (and to an extent Tevez) will have to be spread throughout the team - with the likely end of season club top scorers being Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Valencia & Nani (Macheda will also get his opportunities, along with Diouf possibly being added to the mix in January).
4. Chelsea's first came from Nani not tracking Carvalho - which pretty much made his performance on the night a wash (goal scored, goal conceded).
5. Chelsea's second was left (as set in the rules) to the discretion of the ref and the players. If the ref deemed Evra to be sufficiently injured then he could have stopped the match - conversely Chelsea could have kicked the ball out. The gap left by Evra being out of the game meant a wide open shot for Lampard.
That said - Utd should have adapted to cover his position and Foster definitely should have saved the shot.
The goal was perfectly legal in the rules of the game - which is exactly what the ref will claim.
6. Rooney's goal was not offside - Cole played him on on the far side. What Chelsea's defensive line was doing so high - I have no idea. But there needs to be clear daylight between the attacker and the defender (with the attacker getting the benefit of any doubt) - Rooney's was thus a perfectly good goal.
7. The penalties are a crap shoot. They were poor by Utd, and to say Cech was a hero is hyperbole to the extreme. But shit happens in these things - Utd win them as much as they lose them - and u only have to ask John Terry what it means to miss them in a game that actually matters.
This game thankfully - outside of bragging rights - does not. That it gives u an edge in the season is unfounded considering until recently 8 of the winners in a row did not win the title - and that Utd started horribly to begin last season even though they triumphed in the CS.
To say Utd got lix after 2 soft goals and a penalty shootout, is quite simply baiting of the highest order :)
Thoughts for the start of the season:
Foster isn't ready (and I'm not convinced he'll ever be - nor can he seem to stay fit). His injury may be what Tomas needs to stake his claim.
Silva on Utd might be nice (though I'm not sure it makes sense financially or practically given his slight frame).
Utd need central midfield reinforcement - Chelsea overpowered them and Barca outplayed them - Carrick, Giggs, Anderson, Fletcher, Gibson, Scholes - looks less impressive than I'd like to say.
A fully fit Essien over a season makes Chelsea just that much more dangerous (the 1st player I would take from Chelsea if I had a chance).
Evra is a beast - Utd's most impressive player on the day for me - the penalty was awful but I don't count that against him.
Berbatov had an ok game - some nice touches - not not enough penetration. He needs to concentrate less on the flicks and tricks and be more of a CF for us this season - but facilitation really seems to be where he thrives. He would really be something next to a more direct striker - but Rooney has shown for England that he has the potential to be that. Can Berbatov be Wayne's Heskey? I guess only time will tell - size & style wise it seems unlikely though.
At the end of the day both teams seemed pretty evenly matched on a whole - I thought Utd looked more incisive, whereas Chelsea understandably lacked width and looked for the most part like the bulldozing Chelsea of old (Mikel ain't Makalele & Ivanovic isn't a RB). But 2-2 was about fair at the end of the day - no shame losing on penalties.
Bring on the real deal - let's get this party started!
Yeah ok, did you see a different set of camera angles than was shown on TV?
He was level as u can see from the 56th second onwards in this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPla_JFA6Q&fmt=18 (Andy Grey admits as much). If u think he was far enough ahead of the line for the official not to give him the benefit of the doubt, then you're having a laugh (& a very biased one at that).
Anyway, what do u care, ur team won. All 4 goals were legal in my opinion - even if this was the best of the bunch.
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He was level as u can see from the 56th second onwards in this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPla_JFA6Q&fmt=18 (Andy Grey admits as much). If u think he was far enough ahead of the line for the official not to give him the benefit of the doubt, then you're having a laugh (& a very biased one at that).
Anyway, what do u care, ur team won. All 4 goals were legal in my opinion - even if this was the best of the bunch.
Are you sure you watched that link, the frame on the 56th second shows him offside. Unless the lines on the grass aren't straight you can see where Cole and Rooney are different distances from the edge of the grass shadow. You may not want to accept it but it is there to see. Like I said earlier I'm glad it wasn't called tho, because we have 2 controversial goals split between the 2 teams. So no one can claim either team was cheated really.
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Rooney looked like he was marginally ahead of Cole...Note that the linesman was also on Cole's side of the field- that could make a difference - i.e. tougher to make a call on a player collecting the ball on the far side when the linesman's point of reference is a player very close to him... Either way it was close enough for the attacker to get the benefit of the doubt
Did any of the defenders throw a hand up in appeal of the goal? - don't remember... That's also a telling indication.
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He was level as u can see from the 56th second onwards in this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYPla_JFA6Q&fmt=18 (Andy Grey admits as much). If u think he was far enough ahead of the line for the official not to give him the benefit of the doubt, then you're having a laugh (& a very biased one at that).
Anyway, what do u care, ur team won. All 4 goals were legal in my opinion - even if this was the best of the bunch.
Are you sure you watched that link, the frame on the 56th second shows him offside. Unless the lines on the grass aren't straight you can see where Cole and Rooney are different distances from the edge of the grass shadow. You may not want to accept it but it is there to see. Like I said earlier I'm glad it wasn't called tho, because we have 2 controversial goals split between the 2 teams. So no one can claim either team was cheated really.
Well you believe there is daylight between the players, I don't - simple as that I guess. The attacking player is meant to get the benefit of the doubt, and at the speed of this play there's no way that the official could have been sure either way - hence Rooney was allowed through.
The lack of protest by any of the Chelsea players (or bench) and the judgment (based on the replays) by Grey just makes me more certain about my own opinion (if not that he was onside, then it was ambiguous enough then and now for those involved to accept that it was a goal).
But like you say, it's a moot point. Just makes me question people's interpretation of the offside rule and bias towards Utd in general is all.
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Foster - not ready for the big teams yet, Fergie got it wrong with the goal keeping decision
Berbatov - Waste ah f@cking time and money, too slow for this United team, kills the attack too much.
Valencia - Did nothing coming on.... I'll give him some more time.
Evra - Did well tonight, not sure why fergie made him take that penalty kick so early. He missed against Bayern too.
Ref - Poor refereeing, inconsistent with his calls and should have blown for the foul on Evra.
We need another magical player who can create something out of nothing, like Ronaldo use to do. Chelsea won tonight by penalties...congrats I guess :-\ . Let the season begin!!!!!
I disagree with you on Foster. Other than a couple situations where he had balls played back to him and he may have looked a little unsettled with the opponents' resulting pressure on him (which a LOT of 'keepers would struggle with and more teams need to do like Chelsea did) I find he had a brilliant game and made some very good saves to keep manu in the game.
Brilliant? We obviously saw two different games. He was shaky on the back pass, and should have gotten enough on the second goal to deflect it around the post. He looked short of match sharpness, and Sir Alex said that in his post match analysis of Foster's performance. He is a good 'keeper, and I tip him to rebound from this. He was definitely substandard yesterday.
Yes, obviously we did. I don't understand where you getting that a player (any player) would "...look short on match fitness...." in a pre-season game. Please explain what it was about his game that showed a lack of "match fitness"? I mean, he was tired in the 50th minute or wha? Yes he was shaky on two back passes, the first of which was one that his defender shouldn't have made because Drogba was within 10-15 yards of the 'keeper and he did what smart players should do more often and put pressure on the 'keeper. Since the rule change on back passes, most 'keepers would still have trouble playing a back pass at their feet if an opponent put pressure on him. To me you can take that with a grain of salt because more players need to do what Drogba did on both of those back passes. He made at least two close range saves (Drogba again on one of them) that were most impressive and kept his team in the game. Saying that he could have done better on the 2nd goal is like saying a 'keeper coulda do better on a penalty. Lampard teed-up from 15 yards and most 'keepers might not have even gotten their hand to that shot. I would quicker give Lampard credit for taking a good shot with the right amount of power and placement than to blame Foster on that goal. the man was at least 4 yards off his line and while that might the goal a smaller target for Lampard, it also cuts down the 'keeper's reaction time. Just getting a hand to it was impressive enough.
Boss we ain't talking bout any keeper here; we're talking about supposedly the heir to the England #1 shirt. Foster seemed to be matching sharpness, and yeah it's only preseason, but the league starts this week. We've seen 'keepers make those saves, and as a matter of fact, Foster did make a smart save low to his right that shows he is capable of making those types of saves. He was inconsistent at best. No way can you say he had an excellent game. That back pass rule has been in existence for over 15 years now, so how is that a new rule? He would have been playing to that rule ever since he started playing the position. He was mediocre, and relative to his potential and capability, underperformed.