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Title: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Flex on September 08, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
Robbie's Return.

Real Salt Lake forward Robbie Findley had arrived into Trinidad for the second time in his life to play soccer – what isn’t well know is that he easily could have been wearing the colors of the Soca Warriors.

Findley’s parents Rawle and Vanessa – are both natives of Port-of-Spain, having moved to New York in the early 70’s where they married and eventually had Robbie.  After Findley’s soccer career became promising, a family friend arranged a tryout with the T&T U-21 team in December of 2005.

“I really didn’t know what to expect,” said Findley.  “It was good to get over here and see where my family grew up, and see a lot of aunts and uncles.”

While the soccer experience wasn’t memorable, the chance to see his parents’ roots has stuck with him.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”

And the emotions of coming back to the land of his heritage, this time wearing a U.S. jersey?

“It’s tough, but I’m happy with the decisions I’ve made.  Hopefully I get chance to contribute Wednesday.”

Whatever the case, Robbie will certainly have supporters in the crowd since plenty of relatives still live in the area.  Just as important as what they will bring to the game is what they will bring after.

“There is a local dish called Roti that I love. There are a bunch of different kinds. It’s basically a flour tortilla that can be rolled with things like chicken curry and potatoes.  My aunt is going to bring me some for the trip home.”

With all the special memories and glimpses into his heritage, Robbie will indeed be heading home.

Touchdown in Trinidad

The team arrived in Trinidad around 7:30 p.m. local time and made the 30-minute trip into downtown Port-of-Spain.  For those of you that enjoy the little details, some random observations from the trip:

•As usual, the coaches used the time to watch video from the previous game.  Several players took advantage of the opportunity as well throughout the trip; Amongst others, at one point Benny Feilhaber, Carlos Bocanegra, Clint Dempsey and Jonathan Spector were huddled around a computer watching the game tape.

•Landon Donovan and Brian Ching were heavy into crossword puzzles.

•Chad Marshall spent most of the trip reading a John Grisham novel.

•There are a bunch of guys who are flat-out sleepers.  We think Gooch might be out before the cabin doors are closed

•The in-flight movies were Night at the Museum: Battle at the Smithsonian, Star Trek, and Watchmen.  (Movie choices were made by the flight crew, in case there is any critique about the selections).

•The flight path took the plane past Cuba - the water around the island looks stunning from above - and since we flew at dusk there were some amazing colors at sunset.  A band of blazing orange that faded into yellow against a dark blue sky lasted for about 20 minutes; unfortunately, the photos we tried to take didn't quite do it justice. Chalk that up to human error ...

•We also flew near Hasely Crawford Stadium - site of Wednesday's match - which was still lit following T & T's training session.  From 10,000 feet, it certainly looks like it will be a great place for a night game.

Scene Set

Quite a different change of environment from last week's high altitude base in Park City, where the weather was warm and dry behind a backdrop of mountain peaks and a small-town feel.

Here in Port-of-Spain the air is hot and humid, but there's a nice breeze taking the edge off the heat.  The hotel affords a fantastic view of the harbor and the surrounding hills, and is just on the edge of some of the more tropical areas of Trinidad.

It's been a pretty quiet day as the players continue to rest and recuperate, with the bus departing for training in a little more than 30 minutes.  There is a line building up in the training room for players waiting to get ankles taped and other treatment before the 45-minute session at Hasely Crawford Stadium.  Earlier in the afternoon, several members of the group sat down for interviews with ESPN for tomorrow's nights pre-game show and broadcast.  At lunch, the team got a visit from Len Kusnitz, the Chargé d'Affaires for the United States in Trinidad & Tobago. 

We'll have more news following training, including the progress of Charlie Davies as he recovers from the left calf contusion suffered Saturday night against El Salvador.

Source: ussoccer.com - live on ussoccer blog.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 08, 2009, 08:13:49 PM
when findley tried out he did not make the final cut for our under 21 for some reason .. maybe he had a bad camp ... guy like judah hernandez kyle hall etc made the cut . hall later switched to canada and judah well seems like his career hit a brick wall ... wish findely the best .. we over looked him!!!!
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: che on September 08, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
Trini_2010 why did you change your name? Have you given up already? You not going to fight till the end?
So I guess you ride out from the Alamo before the big battle :shameonyou:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: palos on September 08, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”


As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Controversial on September 08, 2009, 09:42:08 PM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”


As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

he never been to the bronx, detroit or harlem b4 or wha?  ::) anyways breds good luck, i said you should make the team b4 and yuh get blanked, small ting, i cant blame you, alot of our coaches and admin cant identify talent
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: just cool on September 08, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”


As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

he never been to the bronx, detroit or harlem b4 or wha?  ::) anyways breds good luck, i said you should make the team b4 and yuh get blanked, small ting, i cant blame you, alot of our coaches and admin cant identify talent
So so true breds, yuh preach dey. i've been saying that for yrs now, every time we have ah new coach we see ah total change where half of the previous team gone and ah new batch come in.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Controversial on September 08, 2009, 10:07:25 PM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”


As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

he never been to the bronx, detroit or harlem b4 or wha?  ::) anyways breds good luck, i said you should make the team b4 and yuh get blanked, small ting, i cant blame you, alot of our coaches and admin cant identify talent
So so true breds, yuh preach dey. i've been saying that for yrs now, every time we have ah new coach we see ah total change where half of the previous team gone and ah new batch come in.

family, fellahs on this board have a hard time accepting that, they think trinidad full of shithongs, when its quite the opposite, bc the coaches cant see a talented player until a scout see him or he get a trial in the uk.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Controversial on September 08, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
dem fellahs could never select this team bc they cant see the potential and the strengths of the players:


phillips


spann        thomas/abu bakr    samuel    williams


                          noel


edwards            tinto           jagdeosingh

                roberts

                           glen

edwards - captain

if samuels aint gel in the back, run abu bakr and thomas oui bc right now we dont have a coach like wim tuh organize the backline.. the funny thing is certain people know if we had a good coach we would advance.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Big Magician on September 08, 2009, 10:48:55 PM
enjoy Findley....

Fu#k off...tnt
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 08, 2009, 11:22:05 PM
As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

De man grow up comfortable in Arizona... how de f**k yuh expect him to speak to something he himself never experience?  Knowing something exist out dey and seeing it first hand fuh yuhself is two different things.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Carib-Briton on September 09, 2009, 02:05:23 AM
Trini_2010 why did you change your name? Have you given up already? You not going to fight till the end?
So I guess you ride out from the Alamo before the big battle :shameonyou:


I didn't even realise that  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: davidephraim on September 09, 2009, 05:35:51 AM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”


As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

funny enough palos that is the same shit that piss me off. I left my Land of Trinidad & Tobago where we were already living the American dream.. (house, car, lawn, fence) and got to brooklyn and moved into a 1 bedroom with 9 people. I was sleepin on a sofa bed and meh little brother was sleeping under the sofa bed. :rotfl: :rotfl:
and de3m talking bout livin in small quarters. I say to myself this is what I leave lovely Trinidad for. Many people have had similar experiences though they may not share it.

P.S. but then ah reach 42nd street and all my sorrows just went away... :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Touches on September 09, 2009, 06:46:27 AM
So nobody ent send Robbie a bad roti yet.

f**k away with he!...he is we enemy today...boo he arse whenever he touch the ball and rest a good blade on him too. In fact every US player.

It go have some c**t sitting next to me in the stadium later rooting for USA yuh know...

Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: davidephraim on September 09, 2009, 06:47:28 AM
dem fellahs could never select this team bc they cant see the potential and the strengths of the players:


phillips


spann        thomas/abu bakr    samuel    williams


                          noel


edwards            tinto           jagdeosingh

                roberts

                           glen

edwards - captain

if samuels aint gel in the back, run abu bakr and thomas oui bc right now we dont have a coach like wim tuh organize the backline.. the funny thing is certain people know if we had a good coach we would advance.

like de team but ah feel Tinto need to run more than your position for him may allow. Love Jaggy and carlos on de wings. What about baptiste??
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: royal on September 09, 2009, 07:01:20 AM
He's a striker,he cyar make we need anyway.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: warmonga on September 09, 2009, 08:24:33 AM
big mag  hit him a carib bottle fi mi.
war
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: MEP on September 09, 2009, 08:40:25 AM
As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

De man grow up comfortable in Arizona... how de f**k yuh expect him to speak to something he himself never experience?  Knowing something exist out dey and seeing it first hand fuh yuhself is two different things.
He may never have experienced it growing up in Arizona but there are a lot of counties in Arizona especially amongst the Native American population where poverty is rampant. Part of Findlay's problem is that like most Americans he chooses to ignore what is right below his nose and it's all part of that cultural bias that sees the US as the best and nothing wrong ever occurs within the best.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2009, 09:07:32 AM
He may never have experienced it growing up in Arizona but there are a lot of counties in Arizona especially amongst the Native American population where poverty is rampant. Part of Findlay's problem is that like most Americans he chooses to ignore what is right below his nose and it's all part of that cultural bias that sees the US as the best and nothing wrong ever occurs within the best.

How you arrive at that?!
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: MEP on September 09, 2009, 09:19:10 AM
The native american reservations are notorious for being in a state of dire poverty...it is something that you can't ignore unless you choose to. I'm sure ball has taken Findley all over the US and in doing so I'm sure he has been exposed to all types of neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2009, 09:23:35 AM
The native american reservations are notorious for being in a state of dire poverty...it is something that you can't ignore unless you choose to. I'm sure ball has taken Findley all over the US and in doing so I'm sure he has been exposed to all types of neighborhoods.

You could be as sure as you want to be is still an assumption.  Just because he lives in a state where there are reservations does not mean he has seen any of them up close.  You making generalizations bout de fella that have no basis other than your imagination fella.  Avoid making pronouncements on the fella as if you know him personally.  It's very possible that he hasn't been an eye witness to all the poverty that you believe he is ignoring.  Knowing it exists is quite different from seeing it with your own two eyes.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Andre on September 09, 2009, 09:27:40 AM
The native american reservations are notorious for being in a state of dire poverty...it is something that you can't ignore unless you choose to. I'm sure ball has taken Findley all over the US and in doing so I'm sure he has been exposed to all types of neighborhoods.

native americans is the most impoverished ethnic group in the USA.

ironic since is more dem country than anyone else one.

anyhow...that is the outcome of an attempted genocide.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
The travesty here is that his first visit to T&T came so late in his existence.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Sam on September 09, 2009, 09:28:51 AM
Robbie's Return.

“I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.  I visited the neighborhoods where my parents lived, and even saw the houses they grew up in.  It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”

As if it doh have a lot of people livin in a small apartment and worse far less a house in de USA.

Palos, it have man here in NY living in facking basemant, in a facking hole in de ground especially them Jamaicans. Findley is an ass we, it have poor anywhere in de world you go.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: MEP on September 09, 2009, 09:32:48 AM
I make no bones about knowing him ..I don't and I'm sure you don't either but my argument is based on how people think and some things don't change..we choose to ignore a lot that exists amongst us simply because it takes too much thought....
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
I make no bones about knowing him ..I don't and I'm sure you don't either but my argument is based on how people think and some things don't change..we choose to ignore a lot that exists amongst us simply because it takes too much thought....

I can agree with that statement in theory but that doesn't mean it fits all.  I eh kno de fella so I eh go make no judgements about his character as it pertains to what we discussing.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Peong on September 09, 2009, 09:40:40 AM
Quote
It was tough for them growing up here.  There were a lot of people living in a small house, but they made it work.  It made me realize how great we have it in the U.S.  I’m very thankful for what I’ve been blessed with.”

Of course it could be that he was talking about his family and not Americans in general when he said "we."

Notice he followed it up by saying that he individually had been blessed.

Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: MEP on September 09, 2009, 09:45:23 AM
I'm not judging his character..I don't know him.....but he made a statement about his parents growing up in a small house and then said how great we have it here in the US and my argument is based on that last statement about how great "we have it here in the US"...that is an ignorant statement and from that it is obvious that he is walking with his nose to the ground.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2009, 09:48:08 AM
I'm not judging his character..I don't know him.....but he made a statement about his parents growing up in a small house and then said how great we have it here in the US and my argument is based on that last statement about how great "we have it here in the US"...that is an ignorant statement and from that it is obvious that he is walking with his nose to the ground.

See peong post above yours.  That is basically how I interpreted his statement.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: kicker on September 09, 2009, 09:49:59 AM
How I know that that small house comment woulda trip off some people?  Geez allyuh real sensitive dread.  Trinidad is a developing country and the majority of Trinidad looks like it- plain and simple.   The average standard of living in Trini is significantly lower than in the U.S. and by the sound of it,  based on what Findley saw of where his family grew up, he believes that he was able to enjoy a higher standard of living in the U.S. than he would had he grown up in T&T...and he's feels lucky for that.... so what? why the fuss?

For a Caribbean island, T&T has a decent size middle class that enjoys a standard of living somewhat comparable to the American middle class, but for the most part it's not like that, and visitors from countries like the U.S. detect it quite easily through simple observation, it eh rocket science...Many of us Trinis (especially those of the middle class) are sensitive about being stigmatized and stereotyped as 3rd world and poor, and while I could understand it, the truth is there's an aesthetic beauty to it that we take forgranted.  

I took an American guest back to T&T with me recently and she found the images of rural, undeveloped Trinidad to be absolutely breathtaking and amazingly pure...Now I doubt that anyone (including her) would voluntarily substitute a cush middle class American lifestyle for a rural shack in a Trini village and I agree that everyone should strive to improve their standard of living, and I don't turn a blind eye to the lack of basic human amenities that plague the poorer masses of T&T,  but let's face it most ppl who are ashamed of it don't really care about the harsh reality of it, they're only ashamed of it because they don't want to be lumped into the stereotype...so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it, instead of embracing it as part of what gives our local landscape character and believe it or not, makes it very beautiful and appealing to the eyes of many outsiders...

Anyways, sorry for the ramble..... back to football
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2009, 09:53:16 AM
How I know that that small house comment woulda trip off some people?  Geez allyuh real sensitive dread.  Trinidad is a developing country and the majority of Trinidad looks like it- plain and simple.   The average standard of living in Trini is significantly lower than in the U.S. and by the sound of it,  based on what Findley saw of where his family grew up, he believes that he was able to enjoy a higher standard of living in the U.S. than he would had he grown up in T&T...and he's feels lucky for that.... so what? why the fuss?

For a Caribbean island, T&T has a decent size middle class that enjoys a standard of living somewhat comparable to the American middle class, but for the most part it's not like that, and visitors from countries like the U.S. detect it quite easily through simple observation, it eh rocket science...Many of us Trinis (especially those of the middle class) are sensitive about being stigmatized and stereotyped as 3rd world and poor, and while I could understand it, the truth is there's an aesthetic beauty to it that we take forgranted.  

I took an American guest back to T&T with me recently and she found the images of rural, undeveloped Trinidad to be absolutely breathtaking and amazingly pure...Now I doubt that anyone (including her) would voluntarily substitute a cush middle class American lifestyle for a rural shack in a Trini village and I agree that everyone should strive to improve their standard of living, and I don't turn a blind eye to the lack of basic human amenities that plague the poorer masses of T&T,  but let's face it most ppl who are ashamed of it don't really care about the harsh reality of it, they're only ashamed of it because they don't want to be lumped into the stereotype...so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it, instead of embracing it as part of what gives our local landscape character and believe it or not, makes it very beautiful and appealing to the eyes of many outsiders...

Anyways, sorry for the ramble..... back to football

you good oui! I wasn explainin all dat ah talll!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: palos on September 09, 2009, 09:57:31 AM
so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it,

By the same token you huffing and puffing bout that obviously displays a superiority complex on your part?
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on September 09, 2009, 10:01:10 AM
The travesty here is that his first visit to T&T came so late in his existence.


This isn't his first visit. Read the first sentence in the article.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on September 09, 2009, 10:03:16 AM
f**k off shithong...yuh getting boo...enjoy the bench
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: kicker on September 09, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it,

By the same token you huffing and puffing bout that obviously displays a superiority complex on your part?

No...but if you deduce that, wha ah go tell yuh. 
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Peong on September 09, 2009, 10:13:02 AM
The travesty here is that his first visit to T&T came so late in his existence.


This isn't his first visit. Read the first sentence in the article.

asylumseeker didn't say anything about this being his first visit.
From the article Findley's first visit was at age 19-20.
That's still late.

Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: MEP on September 09, 2009, 10:15:40 AM
so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it,

By the same token you huffing and puffing bout that obviously displays a superiority complex on your part?
palos boy ah eh even want to touch dat one...man does only look at things at face value...
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: elan on September 09, 2009, 10:21:40 AM
So nobody ent send Robbie a bad roti yet.

f**k away with he!...he is we enemy today...boo he arse whenever he touch the ball and rest a good blade on him too. In fact every US player.

It go have some c**t sitting next to me in the stadium later rooting for USA yuh know...



Touches is that you? Doh hit the puncheon so early. Wait till we up 2-0.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on September 09, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
asylumseeker didn't say anything about this being his first visit.
From the article Findley's first visit was at age 19-20.
That's still late.

My bad. The article also says that this is the second time in his life that he's come to T&T "to play soccer". So it's possible that he has made other trips in the past for personal travel with his family.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 09, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
I'm not judging his character..I don't know him.....but he made a statement about his parents growing up in a small house and then said how great we have it here in the US and my argument is based on that last statement about how great "we have it here in the US"...that is an ignorant statement and from that it is obvious that he is walking with his nose to the ground.

How in the world you arrive at that conclusion over a simple innocous statement is beyond me.  The US is a very blessed country, it has it's share of problems but it is a blessed country.  Trinidad as well... I think that much we can agree with.  When I was still living in TnT and used to visit my mudda family in Toco, with their simple wooden home, no electricity or running water, coal pot and mud oven... I used to marvel.  There was something about the rustic lifestyle to me that was charming... I loved it.  At the same time I also knew that as much as I liked it I preferred what we had... brick house with electricity and indoor plumbing walking distance to the EMR.  It made me appreciative of those things which we had... it wasn't much by most people's standards but I was appreciative all the same.

Now does that make my statement ignorant simply because I didn't in the same breath acknowledge the dire poverty of the Beetham, hardscrabble existence in Laventille or the squalor of the squatters who were living just outside my neighborhood in Valencia?  I doubt it... but feel free to disagree.  Findley was speaking in very specific terms about his experience, to a reporter in what was largely an improvised conversation.  Let's not act like the man was making some grand sociological comparison, or even some Kerouac-esque observation.  Context matters.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 09, 2009, 10:37:32 AM
How I know that that small house comment woulda trip off some people?  Geez allyuh real sensitive dread.  Trinidad is a developing country and the majority of Trinidad looks like it- plain and simple.   The average standard of living in Trini is significantly lower than in the U.S. and by the sound of it,  based on what Findley saw of where his family grew up, he believes that he was able to enjoy a higher standard of living in the U.S. than he would had he grown up in T&T...and he's feels lucky for that.... so what? why the fuss?

For a Caribbean island, T&T has a decent size middle class that enjoys a standard of living somewhat comparable to the American middle class, but for the most part it's not like that, and visitors from countries like the U.S. detect it quite easily through simple observation, it eh rocket science...Many of us Trinis (especially those of the middle class) are sensitive about being stigmatized and stereotyped as 3rd world and poor, and while I could understand it, the truth is there's an aesthetic beauty to it that we take forgranted.  

I took an American guest back to T&T with me recently and she found the images of rural, undeveloped Trinidad to be absolutely breathtaking and amazingly pure...Now I doubt that anyone (including her) would voluntarily substitute a cush middle class American lifestyle for a rural shack in a Trini village and I agree that everyone should strive to improve their standard of living, and I don't turn a blind eye to the lack of basic human amenities that plague the poorer masses of T&T,  but let's face it most ppl who are ashamed of it don't really care about the harsh reality of it, they're only ashamed of it because they don't want to be lumped into the stereotype...so all we're really doing when we huff and puff is displaying an obvious inferiority complex when an outsider comments on it, instead of embracing it as part of what gives our local landscape character and believe it or not, makes it very beautiful and appealing to the eyes of many outsiders...

Anyways, sorry for the ramble..... back to football

In a nutshell  :beermug:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Peong on September 09, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
asylumseeker didn't say anything about this being his first visit.
From the article Findley's first visit was at age 19-20.
That's still late.

My bad. The article also says that this is the second time in his life that he's come to T&T "to play soccer". So it's possible that he has made other trips in the past for personal travel with his family.

Yeh but that wouldn't explain Findley's comments about that trip in 2005.
They make sense if that was his first trip ever.

What about this part.

Quote
I had seen pictures, but to actually see it really opened my eyes.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Deeks on September 09, 2009, 10:38:46 AM
I can attest to both side of the coin here. There are quite a few Trinis who left fairly comfortable lives in TT to pursue greener pasture in the states. I remember visiting some of my US friends back in TT and you should see some well furnished(not extravagant or big) houses they lived in. Others had board houses and still used latrines. When I came here,  I live in and small apartment with me moms. When my kids were born they had a small two bedroom house and fished basement with all kind of toys.. They have been to the Caribbean and the only things that bother them is mosquito, lizard and big cockroaches.

 I don't think Findley meant much about his parents background. He probably really thankfull that they did all the right things to make life comfortable for him. He has options. If he does not make it in football he can rely on his college degree for his next move(thanks to his Trini parents fotitude).

To a lot of people this way of thinking or attitude could be a hindrance to US football. Some believe that is typical americam Middle class attitude. That is why some equate soccer with being a middle class sport where most white kids and "bourgois" black and minority kids can find some kind of niche. Soccer to most americans is not "not" roots enough.  Well that is another discussion for the forum
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 09, 2009, 10:40:28 AM
asylumseeker didn't say anything about this being his first visit.
From the article Findley's first visit was at age 19-20.
That's still late.

My bad. The article also says that this is the second time in his life that he's come to T&T "to play soccer". So it's possible that he has made other trips in the past for personal travel with his family.

I doubt it... from appearances (and past interviews) it would seem that the tryout was the first time (much like Patterson) that he had an opportunity to connect with his Trini roots.  No shame in that, but a shame that it didn't happen when he was a child all the same.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: slates on September 09, 2009, 10:41:48 AM
I'm not judging his character..I don't know him.....but he made a statement about his parents growing up in a small house and then said how great we have it here in the US and my argument is based on that last statement about how great "we have it here in the US"...that is an ignorant statement and from that it is obvious that he is walking with his nose to the ground.

How in the world you arrive at that conclusion over a simple innocous statement is beyond me.  The US is a very blessed country, it has it's share of problems but it is a blessed country.  Trinidad as well... I think that much we can agree with.  When I was still living in TnT and used to visit my mudda family in Toco, with their simple wooden home, no electricity or running water, coal pot and mud oven... I used to marvel.  There was something about the rustic lifestyle to me that was charming... I loved it.  At the same time I also knew that as much as I liked it I preferred what we had... brick house with electricity and indoor plumbing walking distance to the EMR.  It made me appreciative of those things which we had... it wasn't much by most people's standards but I was appreciative all the same.

Now does that make my statement ignorant simply because I didn't in the same breath acknowledge the dire poverty of the Beetham, hardscrabble existence in Laventille or the squalor of the squatters who were living just outside my neighborhood in Valencia?  I doubt it... but feel free to disagree.  Findley was speaking in very specific terms about his experience, to a reporter in what was largely an improvised conversation.  Let's not act like the man was making some grand sociological comparison, or even some Kerouac-esque observation.  Context matters.


Yuh forget de posey under de bed.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on September 09, 2009, 10:42:35 AM
Another U.S. player who is currently visiting the country of his roots is Ricardo Clark, whose father is from T&T.

He also stands a very good chance of seeing the field tonight.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 09, 2009, 10:44:40 AM

Yuh forget de posey under de bed.

Ent! ... and being tasked with emptying it  :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Deeks one of these days when I come back thru DC we must lime man  :beermug:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: slates on September 09, 2009, 10:51:12 AM

Yuh forget de posey under de bed.

Ent! ... and being tasked with emptying it  :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Deeks one of these days when I come back thru DC we must lime man  :beermug:

Well, since ah was hoping yuh woulda reply as such, what about this:

Muddah tell yuh empty de posey, which entails, going to de latrine, emptying de posey in de latrine, washing de posey and putting it back under de bed. But...

Lazy lil 4kah you are, instead, u jus go to de backdoor and fling de contents of de posey, except... you do so just as Ashton Brown was passin thru yuh back yard on de way to de shop to buy 6 hops bread and ah ounce ah cheese. Well, is Ashton Brown who get wet down with whatever was in de posey... and lord have mercy if it had piece ah toilet paper in dey.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Sam on September 09, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
Two so call Trinis on de US team and by 2014 it could have about 4, - Williams, Findley, Hill and Clark.

Of all places, USA using T&T genes and it have millions of foreigners living in USA, from Brazil to Spain.

If only the TTFF was a profissional federation eh...
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on September 09, 2009, 10:53:31 AM
Well, since ah was hoping yuh woulda reply as such, what about this:

Muddah tell yuh empty de posey, which entails, going to de latrine, emptying de posey in de latrine, washing de posey and putting it back under de bed. But...

Lazy lil 4kah you are, instead, u jus go to de backdoor and fling de contents of de posey, except... you do so just as Ashton Brown was passin thru yuh back yard on de way to de shop to buy 6 hops bread and ah ounce ah cheese. Well, is Ashton Brown who get wet down with whatever was in de posey... and lord have mercy if it had piece ah toilet paper in dey.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh geeeeeed  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: lefty on September 09, 2009, 10:56:48 AM

Yuh forget de posey under de bed.

Ent! ... and being tasked with emptying it  :rotfl: :rotfl:

--------------------

Deeks one of these days when I come back thru DC we must lime man  :beermug:

Well, since ah was hoping yuh woulda reply as such, what about this:

Muddah tell yuh empty de posey, which entails, going to de latrine, emptying de posey in de latrine, washing de posey and putting it back under de bed. But...

Lazy lil 4kah you are, instead, u jus go to de backdoor and fling de contents of de posey, except... you do so just as Ashton Brown was passin thru yuh back yard on de way to de shop to buy 6 hops bread and ah ounce ah cheese. Well, is Ashton Brown who get wet down with whatever was in de posey... and lord have mercy if it had piece ah toilet paper in dey.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

need I remind u goodly gentlemen that it is the middle of the day in trini and men are in there place of work >:(, having said that.........................................hah haha haha ha ha hhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa choke harrrrrrrrr har cough cough, :rotfl: :rotfl: ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Savannah boy on September 09, 2009, 11:30:21 AM
Findley should not judge otherwise he opening up heself to scrutiny.  He should be glad he family had house and land.  As a percentage of the population, we still enjoy a higher literacy and home ownership rate in our developing country than the US of A.  Lots of our people leave and go up in de cold and spend de majority of their earnings/savings and working life to get back de same things dey had when dey left T&T...namely a house or home (city dwellers) and possibly some land.  Plenty living like cockroach in cold basement for a long time.  Doh let all de gifts, fancy clothes, gold teeth and bling bling dey bring back fool yuh.  Some of dem barely surviving.  What dem peeps have more than we in Trinbago is work and yet despite this, many of dem Yankees prefer to live generation after generation on welfare in their fully developed country.  Poverty exists everywhere.  Dem Yankees like Findley must know dat.  Imagine, if dey cyah arrest poverty in their country cause dey choose to build bombs...little T&T go eradicate poverty.  Come on Warriors, pound some goal in dey ass later.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2009, 11:42:02 AM
asylumseeker didn't say anything about this being his first visit.
From the article Findley's first visit was at age 19-20.
That's still late.

My bad. The article also says that this is the second time in his life that he's come to T&T "to play soccer". So it's possible that he has made other trips in the past for personal travel with his family.

I doubt it... from appearances (and past interviews) it would seem that the tryout was the first time (much like Patterson) that he had an opportunity to connect with his Trini roots.  No shame in that, but a shame that it didn't happen when he was a child all the same.

Zeppo and Reading Comprehension 101?
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Dutty on September 09, 2009, 08:55:28 PM

I took an American guest back to T&T with me recently and she found the images of rural, undeveloped Trinidad to be absolutely breathtaking and amazingly pure...
Anyways, sorry for the ramble..... back to football

classic kicker...well thought out reasoned , articulate balanced response
the intellect of a rhodes scholar and  the emotions of a vulcan


but under all de ole talk...yuh get troo wit ah dirty sanchez or wha? or at least ah lil feel up in pigeon point
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Flex on April 21, 2010, 04:58:03 AM
Robbie Findley happily admits having indulged the fantasy.
By Michael C. Lewis (The Salt Lake Tribune).


Forward Robbie Findley hopes that his World Cup fantasy soon will become a reality.

Pulling on the special jersey jogging onto the field hearing the roar of a massive crowd as he emerges from the darkened tunnel as a member of the United States national soccer team to play in the World Cup soccer tournament - the biggest sporting event in the world.

"It's just something that everybody dreams of," he said, smiling.

Except that dream could soon become a reality for the Real Salt Lake forward. Findley is among a handful of players hoping to earn one of the final spots on the U.S. team for the World Cup in South Africa this summer.

And while the prospect is definitely exciting, it also is putting Findley in a challenging position as RSL prepares to play the Los Angeles Galaxy at the Home Depot Center on Saturday night, in a rematch of last season's MLS Cup championship game.

On the one hand, Findley needs to perform well over the next three weeks, to impress national team coach Bob Bradley, who will select the players for the World Cup. But on the other, he can't afford to get too caught up in the possibilities or push so hard to prove himself that he winds up playing poorly and sabotaging his chances.

"I know from personal experience, that can be a difficult situation," RSL coach Jason Kreis said. "It's also a learning process."

Midfielder Kyle Beckerman also has a chance to make the World Cup team, but his odds are much more remote because there are more good players ahead of him at his position.

"I don't really expect to make the team," he said.

But Findley?

His blazing speed alone makes him a contender for one of what most analysts believe are the last three spots up for grabs on the 23-man roster.

Add to that his impressive form from last season - he led RSL to the championship with a career-high 12 goals - and injuries to several fellow forwards, and Findley might just have a shot.

"You think about it a little bit," he acknowledged after practice earlier this week. "It's pretty big, so it's kind of hard to keep it out" of my mind. "But it's just times like this - training - and during games, you have to try to block it out. Focus on what you're doing at the time. Things will work themselves out if you're doing all the hard work out here and do what you need to do in the games."

Findley is coming off his first goal of the season, scored in RSL's shootout victory at San Jose in a U.S. Open Cup qualifying game on Wednesday night, and could use a few more in the next few weeks to show Bradley he's in top form.

Bradley must submit a preliminary 30-man roster to FIFA by May 11 - Findley seems almost certain to make that - before trimming it to 23 by June 1.

Shining against the Galaxy could prove particularly important, since the Galaxy's Edson Buddle might have played his own way into the picture with spectacular form so far this season. The striker has scored all five of the unbeaten Galaxy's goals in three victories, and fueled discussion among some soccer aficionados that he deserves consideration for the World Cup team.

But Buddle has not been called up for an international game in seven years, while Findley was summoned for training camp last year, in advance of World Cup qualifying games against El Salvador and Trinidad & Tobago. He didn't play in either game -"he didn't really get a chance," Beckerman said - but at least showed he was on the radar.

National team veterans Clint Dempsey and Jozy Altidore are the presumptive locks to make the World Cup team as forwards, with most analysts believing that Charlie Davies will join them if he can recover in time from the injuries he suffered in a car accident last year. Houston's Brian Ching also was considered as a top contender, until he hurt his hamstring against RSL two weeks ago.

All of which might open the door for Colorado's Conor Casey or Findley, whom Kreis believes has all the tools - physical and mental - to thrive on the national team.

"He's very even-keeled," Kreis said, and "he's very humble."

Meanwhile, with four games left until Bradley submits his preliminary roster, there's little for Findley to do except keep working hard and trying to score for RSL and prove he's ready for the big-time. Of course, he's only human. He might also permit himself an occasional dream about what it would be like to hear his name called on his sport's grandest stage.

"It would be an honor to represent your country and be a part of something like that," he said. "Not a lot of people get to do so."

- Fighting chance?

RSL's Robbie Findley is among at least six forwards fighting for probably three spots for the World Cup team:

Player Team Caps

Clint Dempsey Fulham 59
Versatile veteran scored team's only goal at 2006 World Cup.

Jozy Altidore Hull City 24 Top young star led team in scoring during World Cup qualifying.

Charlie Davies Sochaux 17 Fighting to recover from injuries suffered in car crash.

Brian Ching Houston 44 Hurt his hamstring two weeks ago, jeopardizing his chances.

Conor Casey Colorado 19 Enjoyed solid showing last summer after three years away.

Robbie Findley RSL 3 Coming off a great season, but has little international experience.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on April 21, 2010, 07:13:01 AM
He could make the pre-WC camp, but I seriously doubt he makes final cut.

He hasn't looked too good in his few U.S. games so far. He has speed but still seems too tactically clueless for the international level. His finishing could be better, too.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: fish on April 21, 2010, 03:18:00 PM
Robbie Findley happily admits having indulged the fantasy.
By Michael C. Lewis (The Salt Lake Tribune).


Forward Robbie Findley hopes that his World Cup fantasy soon will become a reality.

Pulling on the special jersey jogging onto the field hearing the roar of a massive crowd as he emerges from the darkened tunnel as a member of the United States national soccer team to play in the World Cup soccer tournament - the biggest sporting event in the world.

"It's just something that everybody dreams of," he said, smiling.

Except that dream could soon become a reality for the Real Salt Lake forward. Findley is among a handful of players hoping to earn one of the final spots on the U.S. team for the World Cup in South Africa this summer.

And while the prospect is definitely exciting, it also is putting Findley in a challenging position as RSL prepares to play the Los Angeles Galaxy at the Home Depot Center on Saturday night, in a rematch of last season's MLS Cup championship game.

On the one hand, Findley needs to perform well over the next three weeks, to impress national team coach Bob Bradley, who will select the players for the World Cup. But on the other, he can't afford to get too caught up in the possibilities or push so hard to prove himself that he winds up playing poorly and sabotaging his chances.

"I know from personal experience, that can be a difficult situation," RSL coach Jason Kreis said. "It's also a learning process."

Midfielder Kyle Beckerman also has a chance to make the World Cup team, but his odds are much more remote because there are more good players ahead of him at his position.

"I don't really expect to make the team," he said.

But Findley?

His blazing speed alone makes him a contender for one of what most analysts believe are the last three spots up for grabs on the 23-man roster.

Add to that his impressive form from last season - he led RSL to the championship with a career-high 12 goals - and injuries to several fellow forwards, and Findley might just have a shot.

"You think about it a little bit," he acknowledged after practice earlier this week. "It's pretty big, so it's kind of hard to keep it out" of my mind. "But it's just times like this - training - and during games, you have to try to block it out. Focus on what you're doing at the time. Things will work themselves out if you're doing all the hard work out here and do what you need to do in the games."

Findley is coming off his first goal of the season, scored in RSL's shootout victory at San Jose in a U.S. Open Cup qualifying game on Wednesday night, and could use a few more in the next few weeks to show Bradley he's in top form.

Bradley must submit a preliminary 30-man roster to FIFA by May 11 - Findley seems almost certain to make that - before trimming it to 23 by June 1.

Shining against the Galaxy could prove particularly important, since the Galaxy's Edson Buddle might have played his own way into the picture with spectacular form so far this season. The striker has scored all five of the unbeaten Galaxy's goals in three victories, and fueled discussion among some soccer aficionados that he deserves consideration for the World Cup team.

But Buddle has not been called up for an international game in seven years, while Findley was summoned for training camp last year, in advance of World Cup qualifying games against El Salvador and Trinidad & Tobago. He didn't play in either game -"he didn't really get a chance," Beckerman said - but at least showed he was on the radar.

National team veterans Clint Dempsey and Jozy Altidore are the presumptive locks to make the World Cup team as forwards, with most analysts believing that Charlie Davies will join them if he can recover in time from the injuries he suffered in a car accident last year. Houston's Brian Ching also was considered as a top contender, until he hurt his hamstring against RSL two weeks ago.

All of which might open the door for Colorado's Conor Casey or Findley, whom Kreis believes has all the tools - physical and mental - to thrive on the national team.

"He's very even-keeled," Kreis said, and "he's very humble."

Meanwhile, with four games left until Bradley submits his preliminary roster, there's little for Findley to do except keep working hard and trying to score for RSL and prove he's ready for the big-time. Of course, he's only human. He might also permit himself an occasional dream about what it would be like to hear his name called on his sport's grandest stage.

"It would be an honor to represent your country and be a part of something like that," he said. "Not a lot of people get to do so."

- Fighting chance?

RSL's Robbie Findley is among at least six forwards fighting for probably three spots for the World Cup team:

Player Team Caps

Clint Dempsey Fulham 59
Versatile veteran scored team's only goal at 2006 World Cup.

Jozy Altidore Hull City 24 Top young star led team in scoring during World Cup qualifying.

Charlie Davies Sochaux 17 Fighting to recover from injuries suffered in car crash.

Brian Ching Houston 44 Hurt his hamstring two weeks ago, jeopardizing his chances.

Conor Casey Colorado 19 Enjoyed solid showing last summer after three years away.

Robbie Findley RSL 3 Coming off a great season, but has little international experience.


But it is not only those guys. You have Edson Buddle who has started off the season very good for LA Galaxy, leading with 7 goals already and Herculez Gomez who also has been playing well for Puebla. Another outside looker is Eddie Johnson who is playing with Aris in Greece.
My opinion is that Ching will go. He is the big man that is needed. Davies will go as he is coming off injury, Altidore, maybe Buddle if he keeps up and injury free.
Dempsey is a must without question there. He playing middle or up top depending on the formation.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Sam on June 18, 2010, 05:46:39 AM
Father shares Findley’s World Cup dream.
By Les Carpenter, Yahoo! Sports


JOHANNESBURG – Halfway around the world from here, a father sat before a television peering through the shadowy picture of an African night. This was last Saturday afternoon where he was. He looked for his son, Robbie, the quiet one, the driven one, the one he knew would be destined for fantastic things. The night before they had talked on the phone and Rawle Findley wouldn’t ask his boy the most important question – the one he had been dying to know in the days before the United States played England in their World Cup opener.

The night before they had talked on the telephone, Robbie Findley said nothing. The father who lives for soccer, who loves soccer, sat at the television with his other son and his daughter, staring, looking. He would like to have been here in South Africa, but Robbie was named to the U.S. team too late for him to make arrangements. Plus there was work. He would have to settle for television with his other children in Phoenix.

He watched Robbie racing down the field at Rustenburg’s Royal Bafokeng Stadium, past some of the best players in the world. His boy. His Robbie. Never had Rawle felt so proud.

“It was just disbelief that I had,” Rawle said over the telephone this week from Las Vegas, where he lives.

Nineteen years he has watched his child play soccer. He could remember them all last Saturday as he watched Robbie play against England. How could he forget the Paradise Valley Soccer Club in Phoenix where he first took his son as a child. What was he? Five? Even back then it was so obvious the boy could be great. It was in the way he moved with the ball on his foot, accelerating past the other kids, dribbling, dribbling. Everything so perfect. So natural. How did he do it?

The father laughs as he recalls his son jittering down the field.

“It was instinctive,” he says.

For six years he coached his sons, teaching them the game he grew up playing on the streets back home in Trinidad and Tobago. It was a game they played, the way kids never do in the U.S. – in open fields and empty roads kicking a ball all afternoon until the sun went down and the day turned cold.

But when Robbie turned 11, Rawle stepped away. He would not coach his son anymore. It was time for the boy to learn the game from someone else, lest a father’s impulses destroy his son’s instincts. Fathers push. Fathers demand. Fathers envision a level that maybe their children aren’t ready to reach. No, Rawle decided, Robbie would have to learn the game from somebody else.

Plus Robbie had his cousins. He had Mike Bibby who was then a point guard for the Sacramento Kings. Together, the two played basketball at local gyms with Robbie’s other cousin Shaun McDonald, who was about to burst into the NFL as a wide receiver for the St. Louis Rams, and the New York Knicks’ Eddie House, a cousin by marriage. They could push Robbie farther than a father could.

Even though Rawle loved soccer, he wondered if perhaps his son would be happier playing another sport. He suggested basketball. Would Robbie want to be like Mike Bibby? Robbie did not. Nor did he like baseball despite the fact he had a terrific arm. He wanted to play soccer. He wanted to go to Europe and someday play for one of the top club teams.

Secretly, Rawle was delighted. He wanted his son to play soccer, too.

As Robbie grew up it was obvious he was fast. Faster than everybody he played against. It made him valuable. At family get-togethers people were always saying Robbie and Shaun McDonald should race – the teenager and the NFL wide receiver. Who would win? None of them knew.

But Robbie was a quiet kid, a religious kid. When he grew into manhood he tattooed the words “humility” and “loyalty” onto his hands. These would be values, he’d come to say, “just the way I was brought up.” He never thought of himself as faster than everyone else, even though it was obvious again and again he was the quickest player on whatever soccer fields he played on.

“I still don’t think he realizes how fast he is,” Rawle says.

Shyly, Robbie says people tell him this all the time.

Still by high school it was clear to Rawle that his son was different. McDonald was a great soccer player himself. And before Robbie went to Shadow Mountain High School, McDonald was the best player they ever had, its all-time leader in goals scored. He used to tease Robbie, telling him he would never beat the record. Rawle laughed at the thought. Robbie had grown so well, had gotten so fast, he would break McDonald’s record.

In college, at Oregon State, Robbie became one of the school’s best players ever. But when he went to Major League Soccer he wasn’t considered an elite prospect, one who would be considered a real candidate for the national team. In fact, he never saw himself as a player in the World Cup. His goal was always Europe.

Then, after being traded from the Los Angeles Galaxy to Real Salt Lake, he blossomed. Rawle still can remember that night last year when RSL won the MLS Cup and Robbie scored a goal and held the trophy aloft. He had 12 goals in a breakthrough season. That got him on the radar for the national team. Then, the injury to Charlie Davies, USA’s fastest forward, got Robbie an invitation to the U.S. camp.

Despite not being in the same goal-scoring form as last season, he went to the U.S.’s pre-World Cup
camp in Princeton unsure if he’d be picked. But speed is hard to ignore and last Saturday Rawle watched his son roaring through the English defenders. He almost had to stop and imagine if what he was seeing could be true. His child. His Robbie.

“Can you believe this is Robert?” he said that day.

Thinking about this a few days later, he laughed.

“This is the highest you can get. There is no higher level you can go as far as soccer.”

Later that night, Rawle saw McDonald who had watched the game too. They talked about that race everyone wants Robbie and McDonald to have. The football player shook his head.

“Maybe once I could beat him, but not anymore,” McDonald told Rawle. “He’s faster than me.”

On Friday another World Cup match will come. Rawle will have to work that day. He is a software consultant in Las Vegas. He will be in his office. No time to slip away to watch at home or a sports bar. The father will sit at his desk, staring at another scene from halfway around the world. Maybe Robbie won’t start this time, what with Slovenia and its bigger, stronger defenders. Perhaps the Americans will want a taller player up front.

Rawle understands enough about soccer to know this can be true. But there is little doubt Robbie Findley will play at some point in the game. And Rawle Findley will feel the same magic he did last Saturday night when his son sprinted onto the field and past the best English players and into the most wonderful dream a father could ever have.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Dutty on June 18, 2010, 06:57:36 AM
Father shares Findley’s World Cup dream.

Plus Robbie had his cousins. He had Mike Bibby who was then a point guard for the Sacramento Kings. Together, the two played basketball at local gyms with Robbie’s other cousin Shaun McDonald, who was about to burst into the NFL as a wide receiver for the St. Louis Rams, and the New York Knicks’ Eddie House, a cousin by marriage. They could push Robbie farther than a father could.

 :o :o
waaayyz,,that family have gatorade in they DNA or wha?
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Cocorite on June 18, 2010, 07:34:30 AM
Nice piece dey on Robbie.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Trinidogg on June 18, 2010, 02:59:49 PM
Father shares Findley’s World Cup dream.

Plus Robbie had his cousins. He had Mike Bibby who was then a point guard for the Sacramento Kings. Together, the two played basketball at local gyms with Robbie’s other cousin Shaun McDonald, who was about to burst into the NFL as a wide receiver for the St. Louis Rams, and the New York Knicks’ Eddie House, a cousin by marriage. They could push Robbie farther than a father could.

 :o :o
waaayyz,,that family have gatorade in they DNA or wha?
I know right and yea Bibby mother is Trini. Woulda be cool if we had a respectable basketball team that he mighta want to run for he a real good player.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: FF on June 18, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
Father shares Findley’s World Cup dream.

Plus Robbie had his cousins. He had Mike Bibby who was then a point guard for the Sacramento Kings. Together, the two played basketball at local gyms with Robbie’s other cousin Shaun McDonald, who was about to burst into the NFL as a wide receiver for the St. Louis Rams, and the New York Knicks’ Eddie House, a cousin by marriage. They could push Robbie farther than a father could.

 :o :o
waaayyz,,that family have gatorade in they DNA or wha?

Is de Soca in they blood  ;D
Title: Nottingham Forest sign USA striker Robbie Findley
Post by: Tallman on December 23, 2010, 11:20:03 AM
Nottingham Forest sign USA striker Robbie Findley
BBC Sport


Nottingham Forest have completed the signing of USA striker Robbie Findley, subject to securing a work permit.
Findley, 25, is a free agent after leaving Real Salt Lake in the MLS and had been on trial with Premier League side Wolves.

The forward has been capped 11 times by his country and played against England in this year's World Cup.
Findley began his MLS career with LA Galaxy, but went on to score 28 goals in 91 appearances for Real Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on December 23, 2010, 11:52:05 AM
Wow... very nice.  Hopefully Randi gets a similar career boost as well.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Reggaefan on December 23, 2010, 12:58:59 PM
Wow... very nice.  Hopefully Randi gets a similar career boost as well.

Where does Randi play his football? He perhaps needs to setp up to the MLS before he can start thinking about moving to Europe.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Controversial on December 23, 2010, 01:04:07 PM
Wow... very nice.  Hopefully Randi gets a similar career boost as well.

Where does Randi play his football? He perhaps needs to setp up to the MLS before he can start thinking about moving to Europe.

randi can play in europe, you talk like if you know the player, when you don't.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Bakes on December 23, 2010, 01:51:21 PM
Wow... very nice.  Hopefully Randi gets a similar career boost as well.

Where does Randi play his football? He perhaps needs to setp up to the MLS before he can start thinking about moving to Europe.

Do they teach reading comprehension in Jamaica at all... or are you just a special circumstance of its failure?
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Spursy on December 23, 2010, 02:57:03 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Tallman on December 23, 2010, 03:27:09 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.

Is not dat he didn't make de cut, he was not given the chance to be properly evaluated. In any event, wit de way how de TTFF does operate, T&T is ah hard sell unless yuh doh have other options.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Controversial on December 23, 2010, 05:43:17 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.

Is not dat he didn't make de cut, he was not given the chance to be properly evaluated. In any event, wit de way how de TTFF does operate, T&T is ah hard sell unless yuh doh have other options.

exactly  :beermug:
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: soccerman on December 23, 2010, 06:32:52 PM
All the best Robbie!
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on December 24, 2010, 03:03:11 AM
Hopefully Forest will be able to secure a work permit for him, but it could be tricky.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: weary1969 on December 24, 2010, 12:53:55 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.

Is not dat he didn't make de cut, he was not given the chance to be properly evaluated. In any event, wit de way how de TTFF does operate, T&T is ah hard sell unless yuh doh have other options.

Nah u suppose 2 select d RWB no matter what or prepare 2 b cuss out by d super fans in these parts.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 24, 2010, 01:22:09 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.

Is not dat he didn't make de cut, he was not given the chance to be properly evaluated. In any event, wit de way how de TTFF does operate, T&T is ah hard sell unless yuh doh have other options.

Nah u suppose 2 select d RWB no matter what or prepare 2 b cuss out by d super fans in these parts.

ent Weary
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: weary1969 on December 24, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
I thinks it shows how much talent we have here in tnt that it even suppliment other national teams.

Findley at the time didn't make the cut, he made his choice and good for him!

Wish him the best, b.c usa is my second team in the region these days.

Is not dat he didn't make de cut, he was not given the chance to be properly evaluated. In any event, wit de way how de TTFF does operate, T&T is ah hard sell unless yuh doh have other options.

Nah u suppose 2 select d RWB no matter what or prepare 2 b cuss out by d super fans in these parts.

ent Weary

YEPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: zuluwarrior on December 24, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
Can you imagin having a son born in U.S country, a gifted soccer player, and having to deal with the back ah

 dey bullshit from Jack Warner and his futbol organization, blacklisting  yuh best players because they stand

 up for their rights and not even paying  them or paying them when you feel like .

13 coaches in 10 yrs it shows how bad things is in the TTFF I wish Jack would fix his house before other people own  .

Ah love my country bad but any trinbagonian decide he or she  want to ply their trade for the US or which

 ever country I would support them and wish them lots ok luck .

I say go brave Findley  is a good thing they did not pick you would of been the mistake of your life.


       
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: warmonga on December 26, 2010, 11:32:07 AM
Can you imagin having a son born in U.S country, a gifted soccer player, and having to deal with the back ah

 dey bullshit from Jack Warner and his futbol organization, blacklisting  yuh best players because they stand

 up for their rights and not even paying  them or paying them when you feel like .

13 coaches in 10 yrs it shows how bad things is in the TTFF I wish Jack would fix his house before other people own  .

Ah love my country bad but any trinbagonian decide he or she  want to ply their trade for the US or which

 ever country I would support them and wish them lots ok luck  .

I say go brave Findley  is a good thing they did not pick you would of been the mistake of your life.


       

same thing mi sey but dont use my country and then ply yu trade some where else.. good luck to findley and I hope he score at least 1 goal for his teams reserves before they ship him back to the MLS. cause all speed and no finishing touches wont wrk in england. anyway, Has he played for the U.S since he shit dung himself in the world cup?

war
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: AB.Trini on December 26, 2010, 12:20:57 PM
True 'Warriors' never die.......nor turncoat...... But  I guess when faced with opportunities that  appears to be more appealing than dealing  with the TTFF I guess it eh so hard then to join the 'ZAMORA  clan'
In the words of BM  ........another  F off .... who cares  where this one signs with and  what ever. Not benefiting TnT Warriors so  don't care ; don't give ah ...ah flying firetruck
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: zuluwarrior on December 26, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
War yuh know wat even if he get shiped back to MLS is a well organized football organization he going back to

and he sure to be paid and would not be blacklisted because of selfish black man greed .
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: weary1969 on December 26, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
War yuh know wat even if he get shiped back to MLS is a well organized football organization he going back to

and he sure to be paid and would not be blacklisted because of selfish black man greed .

Not important must play 4 d RWB no matter what.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: zuluwarrior on December 26, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
I stand by my opinion that I express and the decision I would make if  I  had to give any promising youthman

a word of advice about TTFF I would tell him to stay far away from them .


Weary that is not a must not with this administration they force  nationals to make a choice we all have to live by any means necessary .

You should tell the TTFF  they must think about the RWB before making those bad  decisions that they make . 
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: warmonga on December 26, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
War yuh know wat even if he get shiped back to MLS is a well organized football organization he going back to

and he sure to be paid and would not be blacklisted because of selfish black man greed .

doh get me wrong i love mls (I was a season ticket holder for Fire)I jes have sum hard fealings towards Findley. and not because he plays for USA but because I felt he used TNT. But good luck to di yute.
war
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: weary1969 on December 26, 2010, 09:54:35 PM
I stand by my opinion that I express and the decision I would make if  I  had to give any promising youthman

a word of advice about TTFF I would tell him to stay far away from them .


Weary that is not a must not with this administration they force  nationals to make a choice we all have to live by any means necessary .

You should tell the TTFF  they must think about the RWB before making those bad  decisions that they make . 

Friend I am being sarcastic me eh be grudge nobody who choose anybody b4 we y should dey be subjected 2 d TTFF.
Title: Robbie Findley signs with Nottingham Forest
Post by: Ngozi on December 28, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
Robbie Findley Signs With Nottingham Forest, Awaiting Work Permit



    * Wolverhampton Coach: Robbie Findley Has Signed With Nottingham Forest


Update: Robbie Findley One Step Away From Playing For Storied Nottingham Forest

The only thing currently standing between Robbie Findley and playing for Nottingham Forest is his UK work permit. The now former-RSL striker has signed a two-and-a-half-year deal with the Championship side and will have a permit hearing in January to determine his eligibility.

"The club is very confident that it'll go through," Findley's agent Bill Davies told MLSsoccer.com. "They are building their case."

Miles said if the permit doesn't go through, Findley will turn his attention to a host of other entities that have expressed interest in acquiring his services. Other teams in the UK, as well as teams from Mexico to Switzerland have also pursued Findley, Miles said.

The clear preference, though, is for Findley to play for Forest, one of the more storied teams in England. Despite falling on hard times over the past decade, the team still enjoys solid support and plays in a 30,000-seat stadium. They've won multiple English and European championships and nearly made a return to the Premier League after finishing third in the Championship last year. The Reds currently sit eighth in the Championship table.

Dec 23 1:01p by Jeremiah Oshan - 0 comments
Wolverhampton Coach: Robbie Findley Has Signed With Nottingham Forest

Robbie Findley has apparently signed with a team based in England, but it's not Wolverhampton. Despite trialling with the EPL side, the United States striker has reportedly accepted a contract from Championship side Nottingham Forest.

Nottingham Forest, it should be noted, has not confirmed the signing. Rather, this information is based on comments Wolves coach Mick McCarthy made to the press.

    "We had him here, he came and trained with us, got two or three days, but he’s gone to Nottingham Forest," McCarthy said. "We brought him over but he was injured when he came here so we gave him treatment and then he went to Nottingham Forest, so we’ll never know.

    "I think he’s been offered a contract, whereas we wanted to have a look at him."

It has been known for some time that Findley was looking to move to Europe after spending the last four seasons in MLS. Real Salt Lake had supposedly offered him a significant contract extension, but he turned it down. He was then left unprotected in the Expansion Draft and was picked by the Portland Timbers, who would retain his rights if he were to choose to return to MLS.

Nottingham Forest has fallen on hard times recently, but is among the more storied teams in England. They were among the founding members of the English Football Association and date their history back to 1865. The team is best known for its run of success under the management of Brian Clough, upon whom the book and movie "Damned United" is based. Clough led Forest to the English First Division title in 1977-78, two straight European Cups (1979-80) and four League Cups (1978-79, 1989-90).

Since the Clough era ended in 1993, though, Forest has bounced around the three top levels of the English soccer pyramid. Forest last played in the EPL in the 1998-99 season and are currently sitting in eighth in the Championship.
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Deeks on December 28, 2010, 09:08:25 AM
Everybody say Bobby Zamora!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Zeppo on January 16, 2011, 04:21:50 AM
Findley obtains UK work permit

US international Robbie Findley successfully obtained his UK work permit after a hearing in London according to a report on Nottingham Forest website.

The US forward previously signed a contract to join the club but it was contingent on obtaining a work permit.

With that now cleared, Findley will become the newest American in England.

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Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Brownsugar on January 16, 2011, 05:38:05 AM
Findley obtains UK work permit

US international Robbie Findley successfully obtained his UK work permit after a hearing in London according to a report on Nottingham Forest website.

The US forward previously signed a contract to join the club but it was contingent on obtaining a work permit.

With that now cleared, Findley will become the newest American in England.

(continue) (http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=blog&entry=145)

Speak of the devil.  Zeppo ah now bad talking yuh over in a next thread.... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: Findley happy with his decision in choosing USA over T&T.
Post by: Coop's on January 16, 2011, 09:16:43 AM
Findley obtains UK work permit

US international Robbie Findley successfully obtained his UK work permit after a hearing in London according to a report on Nottingham Forest website.

The US forward previously signed a contract to join the club but it was contingent on obtaining a work permit.

With that now cleared, Findley will become the newest American in England.

(continue) (http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=blog&entry=145)
       Regardless of how we might feel about Findley i'm really glad about the decisions he made,i hope he can prove all the doubtors wrong and make himself a success in England.   
Title: Robbie Findlay to Nottingham Forest
Post by: spideybuff on January 31, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
I noticed this while scrolling through deadline day deals...

Robbie Findley   Unattached  Nottingham Forest  Free

Too bad he's american now cause I bet he woulda get the call-up once he plying his trade in England.
Title: Re: Robbie Findlay to Nottingham Forest
Post by: fish on January 31, 2011, 12:18:53 PM
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