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Sports => Football => Topic started by: troy piloy on September 09, 2009, 08:45:46 PM
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I was Stern John biggest fan during the 2005 campaign and was constantly abused about my loyalty but at least i was supporting a player who was performing for their country.
Back then people was raving about Kenwyne Jones and he is better and he not getting a chance to show it.
However my answer was the stats don't lie.
So let us look at stats, in 2005 Stern was leading our front line, after 8 games in the Hex, We scored 7 goals of which Stern scored 3 goal just under 50%.
By the end of the Hex we scored 10 goals Stern scored 6 just over 50% leading us to the playoff with Bahrain.
Now let us look at 2009 Kenwyne is leading our front line, after 8 games in the Hex we have scored 8 goals of which Kenwyne have scored none exactly 0%.
However I don't hear hte ppl calling for his head.
Therefore tell me what you think and who you choose?
Troy 8)
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the constant abuse used to make stern step up his game
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the constant abuse used to make stern step up his game
well we need to abuse KJ, as a matter of fact abuse the entire team and see if it works.
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Long Live Stern John
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this is not even call for KJ is just 24 and no means what Stern John was for our country i mean come on he is our Legendary Striker 69 goals why compare him with KJ? who have 4? i think KJ will be 28 next time around i think he would be much better with more experience and some more skills and determination...
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What about Stern John 2005 to Stern John 2009?
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What about Stern John 2005 to Stern John 2009?
Two goals for the campaign. that still eh bad .
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kenwyn jones is not a striker, he is a player without a position. he is not comfortable in front the goal. just because he has size the english put him infront but it is like fitting a square in a trinagle. he has no touches, cah control and lack the prowess and instinct as a striker.
how in the world he starts for tnt amazes me. stern produced, his numbers showed for himself, yes later on he slowed up with age but he was class. people saying kj is only 24 but in modern football stars produce at that age, at 24 stern was a star producing goals.
i do not see kj getting much better until he gets a position he is comfortable. where that is i do not know.
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W/e guys KJ eh score again he still had a good game tonite it was an improvement... I hoping KJ have a great year in the EPL if he was so much shit and just size he wouldn't be demanding 20+mil from ppl so stop talking all that shit...
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
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good game by kj, what all yuh is consider good. did he score, did he assist, did he really change the game. one time i saw tinto had a break away and he pass kj and home boy standup and did not run to give support, i was like that dude lazy. yes he did one or two things ok, held up the ball once and passed it off, another itme he distributed the ball wide, yes he had a header but for the most part he was missing in action. good u say. your standardsa too high dred.
if the englsih want 20 million for him, that means the english like him for his size etc, he could head the ball etc and if the market want tate him 20 million then so be it but he still not a rated player, to tell you the truth he is not rated 20 million, tevez and adebayor is rated 25 million and is way better than kj.
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I remember a friendly match against Bermuda in 2005. We won 4-0. Stern missed a bag of goals and people booed him at half time. I expressed my disgust at their behaviour and ended up having to defending Stern for the rest of game. I pull every stat and fact I could retrieve from memory it wasn't enough for them (by this time a sizeable number of 'fans' around me. Stern eventually scored in that match. We were about to play Panama in a must win game at home and I made note that if anybody was going to score in the game it would be Stern. SJ went on to open the scoring and provide the pass for Lawrence against Panama in 2005. I ain't bothering to talk about the rest.
Big players step in big matches. Nobody, NOBODY has done what SJ has done for T&T. Long Live Stern John.
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good game by kj, what all yuh is consider good. did he score, did he assist, did he really change the game. one time i saw tinto had a break away and he pass kj and home boy standup and did not run to give support, i was like that dude lazy. yes he did one or two things ok, held up the ball once and passed it off, another itme he distributed the ball wide, yes he had a header but for the most part he was missing in action. good u say. your standardsa too high dred.
if the englsih want 20 million for him, that means the english like him for his size etc, he could head the ball etc and if the market want tate him 20 million then so be it but he still not a rated player, to tell you the truth he is not rated 20 million, tevez and adebayor is rated 25 million and is way better than kj.
Man u think he go be demanding so much attention if he wasn't a striker just to be a big brick wall steups aight man i don't even know why i reply to that nah he eh perfoming well for T&T true talks got all the right to bash him... but don't call him a shit player cause he is generally a good player and currently our number 1 striker/player in terms of club level and playing time for T&T...
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Long Live Stern John
I always said SJ was/is my horse!! Long Live Stern John!!...in trute
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What about Stern John 2005 to Stern John 2009?
he still had more goals than KJ.
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great memories of the game against guatemala in '05... at halftime 3/4 of the uncovered stands was bawling for stern to come off as the team was walking off the field... he had every right to cuss all of us when he made it 3-2. lol
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this is not even call for KJ is just 24 and no means what Stern John was for our country i mean come on he is our Legendary Striker 69 goals why compare him with KJ? who have 4? i think KJ will be 28 next time around i think he would be much better with more experience and some more skills and determination...
That's the Spirit d Boss!
W/e guys KJ eh score again he still had a good game tonite it was an improvement... I hoping KJ have a great year in the EPL if he was so much shit and just size he wouldn't be demanding 20+mil from ppl so stop talking all that shit...
I share the same sentiments! Anyway KJ use all this small talk tuh better yuh situation & continue to make a very very comfortable level of livin fuh yuhself & yuh family bigman!!
Ps yes stats doh lie but paper doh lie too...ah wuh allyuh compare KJ paper tuh SJ own too...cuz ah cyar understand how allyuh only fightin down d man so ras...d man style of play as ah forward really doh suit TnT but is not he fault d coach ask him tuh play that role and it not workin out fuh d best...coachman hatta see that and tweak things a lil to help him to succeed...cuz whether allyuh like it or not d man is d present & future of TnT ball..Anyway KJ go back tuh yuh niche hoss & continue to bang dem een fuh yuh team...blessings!
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my name ...my name is....de de de de ...Stern John
allyuh ungrateful fu#kers
football have something callled a goal scorer...nah...he lazy...he does look lazy scoring...
take yuh work rate and stupidity
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I don't really like STERN. But you know what he delivered when it mattered and that is what counts. :salute:
KJ. - HE DOES NOT DELIVER. He have height, does not use it effectively. Smaller man than he winning the ball in the air. :puking: :bs:
We men not making overlapping passes, just rely on Carlos to cross a ball and when no one there nobody will score.
I will liken Stern a bit to Defoe and KJ ah bit to Husky. Watch the last couple England games especially the Croatia qualifier you will see what ah mean
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is yank u trying to yank? or it really have a player named "huskey"..................should be heskey by the way
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One ting is for sure. If Stern was de one who got de same chance as Kenwyne wit de header last night, and he didn't score it, man woulda say how Stern cause we to lose de match.
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I asked Kenwyne after the game how does he feel that people think that he does not give his all for his country and he replied.........."i dont care"
But these players performances are a lot deeper than that.........if anyone is to blame, its the TTFF, they treat the players like shit!!
More details to follow!!
ah love it!!
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Big Post!
Absolutely no comparison.
KJ is now what Dwight was for T&T in the 90's.
You could have seen he tried yesterday, but thats not enough at this level.
T&T effectively is recovering from losing 3 of its biggest legends, Yorke, Latas and Stern.
The team was always going to struggle. But we had hope.
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We need Stern as much as we need the PNM for another 4 years.
Lest we forget:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/strenkt/john.gif)
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kenwyn jones is not a striker, he is a player without a position. he is not comfortable in front the goal. just because he has size the english put him infront but it is like fitting a square in a trinagle. he has no touches, cah control and lack the prowess and instinct as a striker.
how in the world he starts for tnt amazes me. stern produced, his numbers showed for himself, yes later on he slowed up with age but he was class. people saying kj is only 24 but in modern football stars produce at that age, at 24 stern was a star producing goals.
i do not see kj getting much better until he gets a position he is comfortable. where that is i do not know.
big post. he needs to play defense...the position he started off playing as a youth!
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
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Kenwyne have scored none exactly 0%.
However I don't hear hte ppl calling for his head.
You hadda be deaf, blind or cyah read...There's a thread dedicated to plea to drop KJ.
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
oh wait, i see your point, he didnt score goals against Brazil and Germany when we played against them in CONCACAF qualifying?
he could only score on what put in front him. steups
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I was Stern John biggest fan during the 2005 campaign and was constantly abused about my loyalty but at least i was supporting a player who was performing for their country.
Back then people was raving about Kenwyne Jones and he is better and he not getting a chance to show it.
However my answer was the stats don't lie.
So let us look at stats, in 2005 Stern was leading our front line, after 8 games in the Hex, We scored 7 goals of which Stern scored 3 goal just under 50%.
By the end of the Hex we scored 10 goals Stern scored 6 just over 50% leading us to the playoff with Bahrain.
Now let us look at 2009 Kenwyne is leading our front line, after 8 games in the Hex we have scored 8 goals of which Kenwyne have scored none exactly 0%.
However I don't hear hte ppl calling for his head.
Therefore tell me what you think and who you choose?
Troy :rotfl:
and this also does not mention how crucial his goals were. a goal in Costa Rica to earn a point. two against panama in the dying minutes to keep us alive. two against mexico to earn us a berth against bahrain.
and also when all the 'heroes' couldnt be found stern was there - making him the 2nd highest capped man in trinbago history.
but say what he is a shithound in most ppl eyes. and carlos edwards who cyah make a decent cross is as holy as buddha
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
Colombia, South Africa, Egypt, Scotland, Wales, Finland, Venezuela, Iraq, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Barbados, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Dominica, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Cayman Islands
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
Colombia, South Africa, Egypt, Scotland, Wales, Finland, Venezuela, Iraq, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Barbados, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Dominica, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Cayman Islands
Tallman, tell me the meaning of life nah!
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kenwyn jones is not a striker, he is a player without a position. he is not comfortable in front the goal. just because he has size the english put him infront but it is like fitting a square in a trinagle. he has no touches, cah control and lack the prowess and instinct as a striker.
how in the world he starts for tnt amazes me. stern produced, his numbers showed for himself, yes later on he slowed up with age but he was class. people saying kj is only 24 but in modern football stars produce at that age, at 24 stern was a star producing goals.
i do not see kj getting much better until he gets a position he is comfortable. where that is i do not know.
big post. he needs to play defense...the position he started off playing as a youth!
I don't think he started as a defender. I think he was converted for that U-17 tournament. I think I read in an article (or was told by someone who read the article) that he played it because he wanted to make the team and would basically play anywhere to be in the line up. From my understanding, KJ is naturally an attacking player.
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
Colombia, South Africa, Egypt, Scotland, Wales, Finland, Venezuela, Iraq, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Barbados, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Dominica, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Cayman Islands
hmmm...Colombia. De Colombia hattrick in de Orange Bowl was almost as sweet as de 2 brace Guatemala and Mexico get. Doh talk bout de couple beavers he added to de mix. LEGEND FLICKIN 14!
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I don't think he started as a defender. I think he was converted for that U-17 tournament. I think I read in an article (or was told by someone who read the article) that he played it because he wanted to make the team and would basically play anywhere to be in the line up. From my understanding, KJ is naturally an attacking player.
Interesting how as an u17 he is willing to play anywhere to make the team and now he seems to not care that much.
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one time i saw tinto had a break away and he pass kj and home boy standup and did not run to give support, i was like that dude lazy.
John Harkes pointed that out on the ESPN broadcast.
It was a counterattack for T&T and he was in a perfect position to join in and add numbers to the attacking move, but he just stood there and let everyone run past him. I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
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I asked Kenwyne after the game how does he feel that people think that he does not give his all for his country and he replied.........."i dont care"
But these players performances are a lot deeper than that.........if anyone is to blame, its the TTFF, they treat the players like shit!!
More details to follow!!
ah love it!!
Fellas I think it time to either leave KJ in England to concentrate on his club career or if we still wish to use him, use him maybe in some other position as a defender for example or let him come off the bench!
Best soultion for me is to let KJ concentrate on his club career for a while, while we give other young talented strikers a chance to prove themselves with the national team.
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I asked Kenwyne after the game how does he feel that people think that he does not give his all for his country and he replied.........."i dont care"
But these players performances are a lot deeper than that.........if anyone is to blame, its the TTFF, they treat the players like shit!!
More details to follow!!
ah love it!!
I believe they probably treat players like shit BUT Keep in mind Stern play under the same TTFF and been scoring goals regardless.
LEGEND 14
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
Colombia, South Africa, Egypt, Scotland, Wales, Finland, Venezuela, Iraq, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Barbados, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Dominica, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Cayman Islands
Know how long I trying to find that. It have anywhere the amount he scored against each?
Dinho I won't bother with you. You coming just like yuh nemesis now.
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KJ is not a natural striker so he will neva look like 1. So he will neva match Stern and he have a right not 2 care. Trinis luv 2 hate he doh play good 4 we he does play betta 4 Sunderland yada yada yada.
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my god...this is like comparing Ruud with Bentdner
Stern John= LEGEND...69 in 109 and will rise to the occasion and get the job done
KJ = Waste of Time that will never play his heart out for T&T and possibly retire by year's end
Stern missing the last 5 games were a huge factor... vs CR at home and today we would have gotten the points.
Name the teams them 69 goals came from nah?
Berris go easy eh, just trying to bring some reality.
Colombia, South Africa, Egypt, Scotland, Wales, Finland, Venezuela, Iraq, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Cuba, Barbados, Bermuda, Dominican Republic, Dominica, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, St. Kitts & Nevis, Antigua & Barbuda, Cayman Islands
Know how long I trying to find that. It have anywhere the amount he scored against each?
Goals by Stern John (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/player-pool.html?view=matchfixtures&pid=233&goals=1). Yuh go hadda total dem up.
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Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
Let we index all them goals against games played, opposition, shots taken, shots on target and blatant misses and yuh go realise that dem 69 goals is small change.
All yuh does get carried away yes.
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Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
Let we index all them goals against games played, opposition, shots taken, shots on target and blatant misses and yuh go realise that dem 69 goals is small change.
All yuh does get carried away yes.
Subject all T&T forwards to the same criteria and what do you get? As was pointed out before, he can only score or attempt to score on the opposition that is provided to us. While he does have his fair share of misses, it is a positive thing that he actually gets himself in the position to create the chances. With many of our other forwards, the less missed chances does not necessarily indicate a better performance, it could actually mean a worse performance because their positioning is off. Ah know all of dis eh relly mean nutten because yuh jes doh like de man, but it eh mean yuh have tuh distort, belittle or discredit de man accomplishments. In the same vain, his accomplishments should not be blown out of proportion either, but rather taken in context. We talking bout the performances of T&T strikers while representing de national team. In de end, we eh have tuh drag down no player in order to big another one up.
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Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
Let we index all them goals against games played, opposition, shots taken, shots on target and blatant misses and yuh go realise that dem 69 goals is small change.
All yuh does get carried away yes.
While he does have his fair share of misses, it is a positive thing that he actually gets himself in the position to create the chances. With many of our other forwards, the less missed chances does not necessarily indicate a better performance, it could actually mean a worse performance because their positioning is off.
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That is why we have to have all the stats before we make such a broad generalisation.
I am sure if Stern did score 1/3 of his GLARING MISSES, his goal scaring record would've been astronomical.
Having said that, Jones shit down he self in this hex bad bad bad. And if he eh careful he to could be subject to a animated gif.
steups........I sour like ah bag ah lemon yes.
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Goals by Stern John (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/player-pool.html?view=matchfixtures&pid=233&goals=1). Yuh go hadda total dem up.
Opponent Total
Antigua and Barbuda 2
Barbados 3
Bermuda 3
Bermuda+ 3
Cayman Islands 1
Colombia 3
Costa Rica 1
Cuba 3
Dominica 4
Dominican Republic 5
Egypt 1
Finland 1
Guadeloupe 1
Guatemala 2
Haiti 6
Honduras 5
Iraq 2
Jamaica 4
Martinique 4
Mexico 3
Panama 2
Scotland 1
South Africa 1
St. Kitts and Nevis 3
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2
Venezuela 2
Wales 1
Grand Total 69
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Caribbean Cup
Antigua and Barbuda 1
Dominica 4
Haiti 3
Jamaica 1
Martinique 3
Caribbean Cup Total 12
CONCACAF Gold Cup
Costa Rica 1
Honduras 2
Gold Cup Total 3
CONCACAF Gold Cup Qualifier
Antigua and Barbuda 1
Cuba 1
Guadeloupe 1
Gold Cup Qualifier Total 3
Copa Caribe
Barbados 2
Cuba 2
Haiti 1
Jamaica 1
Copa Caribe Total 6
Friendly
Barbados 1
Bermuda 2
Bermuda+ 2
Cayman Islands 1
Colombia 3
Egypt 1
Finland 1
Haiti 2
Honduras 1
Iraq 2
Jamaica 1
Martinique 1
Scotland 1
South Africa 1
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2
Venezuela 2
Wales 1
Friendly Total 25
World Cup Qualifier
Bermuda 1
Bermuda+ 1
Dominican Republic 5
Guatemala 2
Honduras 2
Jamaica 1
Mexico 3
Panama 2
St. Kitts and Nevis 3
World Cup Qualifier Total 20
Grand Total 69
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The difference between Stern and KJ is that stern had to work his way up through the TnT Senior team to build his career. KJ went abroad at a young age based on Potential more so than performance. When Stern was playing for TnT for Caps and fame early in his career before he became a big name in MLS. Given that type of oppournity you develop a mentality of fighting and taking the chances you get.
you go into every 50/50 and you want to Play.
Then once you start scoring you get more desire to do it in more games it becomes addictive and you set personal goals. Stern wanted to be the highest goal scorer for TnT. Personal drive is the best motivation.
Stern is a man who love to come back and play against Dominican Republic because he know is goals he could score and that type of effort just continue when you play the US
KJ started his career for TnT as a utility player fitting in anywhere Bertile wanted to use him usually on the wing defense. and grousing that he was not playing striker.
He also mostly only plays in the most competitive matches because he has been abroad since 18 so he miss out on shell cup digicel cup and all them fun games for scoring goals.
He learn to play striker as the " Finish man"
Which in the premiership mens
Stand in the box
we will get you the ball and you finish.
That not happening in the hasley crawford no way no how.
You have to battle and scrap and fight for half chance.
When you look at a man like Stern in the last Hex you see the battle and fight and drive that you can only get by have to fight through it daily.
KJ is not that type of player, he is standing waiting for chances to put away.
unfortuantely we are not good enough to create those chances at the moment and he also is out of form which all strikers go through.
eventually he will catch form and score some goals for TnT
Yorke had the same issue,
He also learned to play striker in England
scored a million in the premiership but struggle to score for TnT
The Mental is what drives the Physical
and the emotional controls the Mental.
Kenwyne is not emotionally attached to score goals for TnT
Stern John is.
emotional attachment can only come from physical experiences.
Both experiences are quite different.
Latapy and John vs Kenwyne and Yorke all great players but the first set did much much more for TnT on the field.
Years in the Gold Cup Carribean cup and friendlys
If you only playing world cup qualification then you missing 2/3 of the action.
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Jones' performance last night was an improvement on his previous outings.
He got on the end of some passes and wasn't falling down without being fouled.
Onyewu was on him hard all night and he still managed to get some space.
An improvement, but he's not a replacement for Stern.
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I must say when i made this topic i didn't expect this amount of responses and i thank everyone for it.
As i have heard said and i will repeat it is that Stern John is a Legend in Trinidad football, has always made himself available for his country and perform despite his ridicule.
I hope that when he finally retires from international football he will get the heroes farewell that he deserves
Troy 8)
Stern John fan for life
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On Sports News Latapy made a special announcement about Stern basically saying he(Latapy) missed him badly during his games in charge... He went on to say he is a great goalscorer and the fans have always treated him badly but it is ironic how fans are wishing he was fit now
Class is Class..and Stern John is that... I'm sure every manager in the English leagues will agree
Stern John= Goals
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great memories of the game against guatemala in '05... at halftime 3/4 of the uncovered stands was bawling for stern to come off as the team was walking off the field... he had every right to cuss all of us when he made it 3-2. lol
dat is still d best game i have ever seen soca warriors play live. dat is a game i think i will never forget.
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I must say when i made this topic i didn't expect this amount of responses and i thank everyone for it.
As i have heard said and i will repeat it is that Stern John is a Legend in Trinidad football, has always made himself available for his country and perform despite his ridicule.
I hope that when he finally retires from international football he will get the heroes farewell that he deserves
Troy 8)
Stern John fan for life
This is a dumbass thread... you easily could have made the case that Stern deserves greater appreciation from fans without making the comparison to Kenwyne and trying to make KJ look bad.
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I must say when i made this topic i didn't expect this amount of responses and i thank everyone for it.
As i have heard said and i will repeat it is that Stern John is a Legend in Trinidad football, has always made himself available for his country and perform despite his ridicule.
I hope that when he finally retires from international football he will get the heroes farewell that he deserves
Troy 8)
Stern John fan for life
This is a dumbass thread... you easily could have made the case that Stern deserves greater appreciation from fans without making the comparison to Kenwyne and trying to make KJ look bad.
Kenwyne does that by himself lol
Long Live Stern John
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This is a dumbass thread... you easily could have made the case that Stern deserves greater appreciation from fans without making the comparison to Kenwyne and trying to make KJ look bad.
Like KJ is allya golden boy someone make an gif mashing up Stern i aint hear you say nothing then.
I quote some stats highlighting his lack of goal scoring and you vex
outside with you
If it was the other way around ppl like you would not have hesitated to mash Stern up.
Troy 8)
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Like KJ is allya golden boy someone make an gif mashing up Stern i aint hear you say nothing then.
I quote some stats highlighting his lack of goal scoring and you vex
outside with you
If it was the other way around ppl like you would not have hesitated to mash Stern up.
Troy 8)
Dred you campaigning fuh some kinda c**t award or what?? When Disgruntled make dat .gif ah Stern after the El Sal penalty miss I was one ah de most vocal man saying it was shit. Go back and pull any one ah dem thread and yuh'll see fuh yuhself instead ah talking dat presumptive pack ah ass.
Typical crab in ah f**king barrel... pulling down one man tuh try and elevate another.
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Like KJ is allya golden boy someone make an gif mashing up Stern i aint hear you say nothing then.
I quote some stats highlighting his lack of goal scoring and you vex
outside with you
If it was the other way around ppl like you would not have hesitated to mash Stern up.
Troy 8)
Dred you campaigning fuh some kinda c**t award or what?? When Disgruntled make dat .gif ah Stern after the El Sal penalty miss I was one ah de most vocal man saying it was shit. Go back and pull any one ah dem thread and yuh'll see fuh yuhself instead ah talking dat presumptive pack ah ass.
Typical crab in ah f**king barrel... pulling down one man tuh try and elevate another.
I hear yuh bredda. I don't know who it goin and benefit to break kenwyn down.
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cant take every post as a full orn assault . Just it is what it is .Am sure Troy wants him do well in England ,but hes totally useless as a strike option for us . Hey some players flop for there country but do well for there clubs,eint no shame . But we doh need him ,cause he doh produce for us maybe in the future ,but I woulda prefer Stern over the last week myself .
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Me eh holding no brief fuh nobody... I give each man his due. When Kenwyne first sign with Sunderland and was everybody flavor of de month I was de one getting pong fuh saying on dis board dat he need to cut out de extra stuff... de flipping and dancing and carrying on after every goal. Why? because once he fails to do it consistently he go look like ah damn ass... showing off and carrying on and barely doing anything to justify it.
Same way me and Berris get into it before because I criticize Stern... but I does also support Stern and defend him when man talking shit about it. The problem with some ah we is that we don't know what 'constructive criticism' means... let alone how to give it. Is only ah fight down. Today dey is yuh friend, tomorrow they saying yuh is "shit" and "dotish" and "lazy"... and what not. I juss doh get why some of these so-called SocaWarriors "supporters" feel like they have to cry down and belittle our national players when half ah dem cyah even make ah all-Savannah team.
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Its so sad we have to attack our players ,but is the only way for our blind coaches to take them of the team .And they stil doh listen .......is useless .f**k. What you need to go M.I.T to know ...........wait who we should use as a striker instead of kenwyne or scotty ..............Glen and ...Tinto??
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We dont have a good striker do we .....just converted wingers dont we ! Forbes ? hmm we don"t have one.we have to either convert Tinto or wait for Winchester and Gay. And am not sold on Gay
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great memories of the game against guatemala in '05... at halftime 3/4 of the uncovered stands was bawling for stern to come off as the team was walking off the field... he had every right to cuss all of us when he made it 3-2. lol
dat is still d best game i have ever seen soca warriors play live. dat is a game i think i will never forget.
Dat is d game dat take meh heart again b4 dat I was supportin wit meh head but could not take d pressure so I kept meh heart but after dat 3-2 meh heart went. I need to go back wit meh head it easier to recover.
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one is a goalscorer and one is an athlete....all depends which one you like
i know what i like
14 14 14 14 14 14 ...the best...you wont see it soon again...good fuh allyuh
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LOL Allyuh is real kicks yes....
There are simply players that goal scoring comes naturally, one player like that is Brazil's Luis Fabiano, not the usual Brazil Centre forward but simply bound to score.
What we have is a player in KJ that has all the right attributes minus that ability that comes inherent. Does that mean he will not score? Surely not, it just means that it becomes more critical in the way the player is tactically used as well as the getting the formula of players around him right to exploit his ability in the best possible way. I dont think we ever got that right throughout the campaign.
Without a Stern John everyone else on the field just has to work that much harder to compensate.