Bring it on
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITYYY
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALLL
HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR YOYR TEAM TO WIN NOTHING AT ALL!
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
34 YEARS! f**k ALL
city united is city divided
Tevez will play
Ade will not be banned
Its Manchester City afterall.. if it was United 6 match ban no appeal
Tevez will play
Ade will not be banned
Its Manchester City afterall.. if it was United 6 match ban no appeal
I want to beat the best team City can put out... If he getting ban let it be after the United game
Bring it on
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITYYY
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALLL
HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR YOYR TEAM TO WIN NOTHING AT ALL!
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
34 YEARS! f**k ALL
ADEBAYOR CONTROVERSY
FA imposes three-match ban on City star Adebayor
By Soccernet staff
September 17, 2009
Emmanuel Adebayor has been handed a three-match ban by the Football Association following an incident involving former Arsenal team-mate Robin van Persie.
The Manchester City striker was charged with violent conduct after he appeared to stamp on Van Persie's face during a 4-2 win for his side against the Gunners at Eastlands last weekend, provoking the Dutchman to release a strongly-worded statement in which he accused Adebayor of a "mindless and malicious" act.
Adebayor protested his innocence and apologised for the incident, but Manchester City released a statement on Wednesday to confirm that he had ''reluctantly'' admitted the charge.
The FA has now imposed a three-match ban on the striker, starting with the Manchester derby at the weekend, but Adebayor still has until September 30 to contest a seperate charge of improper conduct relating to his controversial goal celebration in the same game, when he ran the length of the pitch to goad the Arsenal fans.
"A Regulatory Commission today [Thursday] considered the charge of violent conduct issued against Manchester City's Emmanuel Adebayor under the fast-track disciplinary procedure, following an incident with Robin van Persie during their fixture against Arsenal on the 12 September," read an FA statement.
"Taking into consideration Mr Adebayor's acceptance of the charge of violent conduct the Regulatory Commission have ordered that he serve a three-match suspension from all football, commencing Thursday 17 September. A separate charge of improper conduct will be considered at a later date."
I wonder who Man City playing that they had to get the ban in before the weekend. The improper conduct charge could wait cause mostly a yellow is enough for his celebration.
1. Why is it Fergie sounding like he wants the whole of ManUre to fatwa Tevez?
1 a. Isn't Fergie inciting the fans in a similar manner to what Adebayor did vs Arsenal last week?
1 b. Shouldn't that then lead to the 6 game suspension that SM was talking about?
2. Isn't there only one EPL team in Manchester?
2 b. Unconfirmed reports have Manchester United as existing OUTSIDE the boundaries that constitute Manchester. Eg. It's like when you on a flight in and out of Trini - you does always hear you landing in POS, but you really landing closer to Arima.
3. Vidic said that ManUre is the best team in Europe. I think he forgot the epic beatdown they got at the hands of Barca.
3 b. He also said they're the best team in England ... defending champions yes, yet they're looking up at another team up the table.
4. If City is so small, why are ManUre management, players and fans so bitterly obsessed with City? I sense a tinge of jealousy.
'You haven't got the money' is the cry from City's support. 'USA, USA' is the United retort!
cant believe no links for this game. Allyuh well hate Manure boy.
cant believe no links for this game. Allyuh well hate Manure boy.
i want a 7-7 draw :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Tevez will play
Ade will not be banned
Its Manchester City afterall.. if it was United 6 match ban no appeal
I want to beat the best team City can put out... If he getting ban let it be after the United game
Bring it on
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITYYY
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALLL
HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR YOYR TEAM TO WIN NOTHING AT ALL!
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
34 YEARS! f**k ALL
Horse you trying to play a victim card for ManU?
ManU?
Seriously?
The team that is allowed injury time until they score?
Get real.
Tevez will play
Ade will not be banned
Its Manchester City afterall.. if it was United 6 match ban no appeal
I want to beat the best team City can put out... If he getting ban let it be after the United game
Bring it on
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITYYY
THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALLL
HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR YOYR TEAM TO WIN NOTHING AT ALL!
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
YOU'LL NEVER WIN f**k ALL
34 YEARS! f**k ALL
Horse you trying to play a victim card for ManU?
ManU?
Seriously?
The team that is allowed injury time until they score?
Get real.
Absolute garbage
alyuh Manchester Utd fans eh have no belly if alyuh braggin bout that tief win....7 minutes of overtime??? get real
Great gme....Great win :devil: :devil: that last sub by Fergie was brilliant to add a lil more time on the clock..BRILLIANT!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D WE scored in aroung the fifth min. of injury time, the 6mins came after the last goal.
Not to take away from a brilliant display of football from both teams... you can't blame officiating when Darren Fletcher of all people score two goals with his head. Some good redemption stories in Owens scoring the winner, and in the process taking Ferdinand off the hook for the giveaway to concede the tying goal.
All that said... the calls in the second half were very questionable... including the supposed foul that led to the free kick off which Fletcher scored his second to send United up 3-2. And then to promise 4 mins of added time (which itself was baffling in what was a fast-paced game with few stoppages), and end up playing 6?? Officially the explanation was that there was a goal and a sub... how that results in an extra two minutes of stoppage time is beyond me.
... and to rub salt in the wound, Alan Wylie... the match's fourth official, is seen skinning he facking teeth with Ferguson right after the winning goal was scored.
The only surprise for me is that allyuh surprised ::)
Great gme....Great win :devil: :devil: that last sub by Fergie was brilliant to add a lil more time on the clock..BRILLIANT!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D WE scored in aroung the fifth min. of injury time, the 6mins came after the last goal.
How much time did the 4th official indicate would be added? Was it close to 5-6 or not?
lets hear it small mag
3 points to the lucky devils, officals again favour the reds, we alls know this, but owen still had to be composed to finish well
arsenal were unlucky not to bring city down to earth glad somebody did
still you reds have got to say you were very lucky in the arsenal game and again this game with the extra extra injury time
Great gme....Great win :devil: :devil: that last sub by Fergie was brilliant to add a lil more time on the clock..BRILLIANT!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D WE scored in aroung the fifth min. of injury time, the 6mins came after the last goal.
Great gme....Great win :devil: :devil: that last sub by Fergie was brilliant to add a lil more time on the clock..BRILLIANT!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D WE scored in aroung the fifth min. of injury time, the 6mins came after the last goal.
4 mins added... city scored in the 90:30... celebrated for about 60 seconds... Carrick came on and when we got the free kick it was headed to giggs close to the 18 yard line and he played Owen..goal
game over
3 points
;D ;D ;D
forget time and all that tata.. not fair, sure. but class is class. that manu team does always find a way to win and does NOT stop playing till the whistle blow. Goals win games and manu scored. Great pass, nice finishing touch.
And I eh even like Manu!
I would have taken the draw, but at the end of the day the win is much sweeter with full three points in the bag. I'll take it. I know alot of people don't wanna hear it, but I think the last sub Fergie made was to gain some more time on the clock and it worked in our favour around the 5' min of injury time, but it's Man.U so they are gonna hate regardless.
Please! I guess United should have tolded the ref to blow after 4minutes or decline the extra 2minutes played out of respect for the hators on this forum? If it was your side who benefited from the extra time played can you honestly say you would be bleeting all the sh!t you are bleeting? United did not cheat but played to the whistle!If Man.City had won in that fashion, they would not even mention anything about the stoppage time, I was thought to play till the whistle blow and that's what Man.United did and we won, but the haters will always be there, so let them bleat. Last couple years it was Ronaldo and his dives + ref favoritism..... now they can only talk about the ref, so let them talk.
Please! I guess United should have tolded the ref to blow after 4minutes or decline the extra 2minutes played out of respect for the hators on this forum? If it was your side who benefited from the extra time played can you honestly say you would be bleeting all the sh!t you are bleeting? United did not cheat but played to the whistle!If Man.City had won in that fashion, they would not even mention anything about the stoppage time, I was thought to play till the whistle blow and that's what Man.United did and we won, but the haters will always be there, so let them bleat. Last couple years it was Ronaldo and his dives + ref favoritism..... now they can only talk about the ref, so let them talk.
Only because Rooney or Berbatov eh dive today ;D
Seriously! The game was tied at the time, its not like ManU got 6 min and Man City got 4min. :-\That's a good way to look at it lol
Please! I guess United should have tolded the ref to blow after 4minutes or decline the extra 2minutes played out of respect for the hators on this forum? If it was your side who benefited from the extra time played can you honestly say you would be bleeting all the sh!t you are bleeting? United did not cheat but played to the whistle!If Man.City had won in that fashion, they would not even mention anything about the stoppage time, I was thought to play till the whistle blow and that's what Man.United did and we won, but the haters will always be there, so let them bleat. Last couple years it was Ronaldo and his dives + ref favoritism..... now they can only talk about the ref, so let them talk.
Please! I guess United should have tolded the ref to blow after 4minutes or decline the extra 2minutes played out of respect for the hators on this forum? If it was your side who benefited from the extra time played can you honestly say you would be bleeting all the sh!t you are bleeting? United did not cheat but played to the whistle!If Man.City had won in that fashion, they would not even mention anything about the stoppage time, I was thought to play till the whistle blow and that's what Man.United did and we won, but the haters will always be there, so let them bleat. Last couple years it was Ronaldo and his dives + ref favoritism..... now they can only talk about the ref, so let them talk.
So that justifies the win.....
Man Utd played for a win till the final whistle but Man City was content to relax and play for a draw and that is why the team that had the more ambitious mind-set won!
The ref is allowed to add time for substitutions during the game, whether it is the beginning, middle or end; he can add time for goals being scored; celebrations; injuries, wasting time ect. Anything that may take away from the game being played in 90 minutes after all is said and done. It all comes down to the ref's discrestion. Some times the added time is never enough or is to much.
Man Utd played for a win till the final whistle but Man City was content to relax and play for a draw and that is why the team that had the more ambitious mind-set won!
That is bullshit... you clearly wasn't watching the game. If yuh want to say United played better then say so but doh come with that bullshit because City played their hearts out, doh discredit their efforts. Not because people saying ref tief mean dey "anti-Man Utd".
The ref is allowed to add time for substitutions during the game, whether it is the beginning, middle or end; he can add time for goals being scored; celebrations; injuries, wasting time ect. Anything that may take away from the game being played in 90 minutes after all is said and done. It all comes down to the ref's discrestion. Some times the added time is never enough or is to much.
Which always are in ManU's favour... ??? go figure!
Big Up!
Socapro....good points...but it surely was not the case in this game...ManC was going for the win...The ref just refused to blow the whistle while ManC had possesion after the 4th min...then in pressing forward a phantom foul was called.. and he still allowed ManU to play until they scored..how come an extra minute was not added for that goal!
Big Up!
I would have taken the draw, but at the end of the day the win is much sweeter with full three points in the bag. I'll take it. I know alot of people don't wanna hear it, but I think the last sub Fergie made was to gain some more time on the clock and it worked in our favour around the 5' min of injury time, but it's Man.U so they are gonna hate regardless.
I would have taken the draw, but at the end of the day the win is much sweeter with full three points in the bag. I'll take it. I know alot of people don't wanna hear it, but I think the last sub Fergie made was to gain some more time on the clock and it worked in our favour around the 5' min of injury time, but it's Man.U so they are gonna hate regardless.
doh study dem breads.....they doing like if City only had 4 mins of extra time to score while we had six. Haters would always be haters.
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
you not serious...
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
you not serious...
Why do you think they refer to games like these as a local derby then?
Its do or die in these games so home advantage is of no consequence to the away team because they are practically playing in their neighbours backyard and trying to stealing mangoes from their neighbour's tree for local bragging rights!!!! :devil:
so in the Chelsea/Spurs game...had 2 or 3 long injuries...and only 8 mins added...Man U got almost 7 for what?
Big Up!
so in the Chelsea/Spurs game...had 2 or 3 long injuries...and only 8 mins added...Man U got almost 7 for what?
Big Up!
so in the Chelsea/Spurs game...had 2 or 3 long injuries...and only 8 mins added...Man U got almost 7 for what?
Big Up!
Bassong hit he head real hard on dat play boy... hope he's okay, he looked like he was completely out of it on the pitch.
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish!! Both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
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90:00+6:58
The final whistle is blown by the referee.
90:00+5:28 GOAL - Michael Owen:
Man Utd 4 - 3 Man City Michael Owen gets on the score sheet with a goal from deep inside the penalty box to the bottom right corner of the goal. Man Utd 4-3 Man City.
90:00+6:58
The final whistle is blown by the referee.
90:00+5:28 GOAL - Michael Owen:
Man Utd 4 - 3 Man City Michael Owen gets on the score sheet with a goal from deep inside the penalty box to the bottom right corner of the goal. Man Utd 4-3 Man City.
4 mins of ET indicated by the ref, so why was the game still being played at +5:28?
:whistling:
Spot the spelling :-\
that argument about time added on for a goal and sub is utter bullshit!!!
nuff time yuh see a goal score and the ref blow off the game from the subsequent touch off... no extra time added..
subs is to eat time off the clock not add time...
come better than that nuh
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Evra is a real a$$hole boy...
:liar: :joker: ;)Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
you not serious...
Why do you think they refer to games like these as a local derby then?
Its do or die in these games so home advantage is of no consequence to the away team because they are practically playing in their neighbours backyard and trying to stealing mangoes from their neighbour's tree for local bragging rights!!!! :devil:
??? ::)
It go be pressure Man United when they travel to Manchester for te return leg. Hopefully Adebayor and Robinho back in the side by then. Man United squad cya get better than they had today.yeah that gobe match up
Was just looking at Setanta Sports and they were analysing the Injury Time period. First point they noted was that Bellamy scored to make it 3-3 at 89:58. The 4th official had already indicated that there would be a Minimum, of 4 mins to be played in injury time. The celebration for Bellamy's goal was considered excessive and an extra 55 sec was added. The Carrick substitution adds another 30 sec. I never knew this before but apparently it is a rule that for a substitution, extra time is allotted, the amount of which is determined by the referee, but in general its about 30 seconds.
This gives roughly 1min and 25 seconds added to the initial 4 mins.
Owen scored at 95:25. Let me iterate that this is what was broken down on Setanta.
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish!! Both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
... but United isn't technically located in Manchester. Is like calling Jabloteh vs Joe Public a derby - San Juan & Arouca is two different place.
Was just looking at Setanta Sports and they were analysing the Injury Time period. First point they noted was that Bellamy scored to make it 3-3 at 89:58. The 4th official had already indicated that there would be a Minimum, of 4 mins to be played in injury time. The celebration for Bellamy's goal was considered excessive and an extra 55 sec was added. The Carrick substitution adds another 30 sec. I never knew this before but apparently it is a rule that for a substitution, extra time is allotted, the amount of which is determined by the referee, but in general its about 30 seconds.
This gives roughly 1min and 25 seconds added to the initial 4 mins.
Owen scored at 95:25. Let me iterate that this is what was broken down on Setanta.
So my theory is correct all along that the ref gave Man City some extra extra-time to allow them a chance to reply & equalise and they just couldn't because they were shell shocked after the Man Utd goal!
The better team on the day won but Man City will have a chance for revenge when Man Utd comes to their yard!
Was just looking at Setanta Sports and they were analysing the Injury Time period. First point they noted was that Bellamy scored to make it 3-3 at 89:58. The 4th official had already indicated that there would be a Minimum, of 4 mins to be played in injury time. The celebration for Bellamy's goal was considered excessive and an extra 55 sec was added. The Carrick substitution adds another 30 sec. I never knew this before but apparently it is a rule that for a substitution, extra time is allotted, the amount of which is determined by the referee, but in general its about 30 seconds.
This gives roughly 1min and 25 seconds added to the initial 4 mins.
Owen scored at 95:25. Let me iterate that this is what was broken down on Setanta.
De time ting apparently fairly widely used. I never really knew bout it..buh when i found out bout it in bout January dis year...i was checking it out while watching games and it kinda held true. Buh guess ppl eh go want to hear dat.
And....while i eh see de game yet..from reports...at least 2 of city goals were due to capitalizing on blunders. Makes for an interesting return leg.
Was just looking at Setanta Sports and they were analysing the Injury Time period. First point they noted was that Bellamy scored to make it 3-3 at 89:58. The 4th official had already indicated that there would be a Minimum, of 4 mins to be played in injury time. The celebration for Bellamy's goal was considered excessive and an extra 55 sec was added. The Carrick substitution adds another 30 sec. I never knew this before but apparently it is a rule that for a substitution, extra time is allotted, the amount of which is determined by the referee, but in general its about 30 seconds.
This gives roughly 1min and 25 seconds added to the initial 4 mins.
Owen scored at 95:25. Let me iterate that this is what was broken down on Setanta.
Was just looking at Setanta Sports and they were analysing the Injury Time period. First point they noted was that Bellamy scored to make it 3-3 at 89:58. The 4th official had already indicated that there would be a Minimum, of 4 mins to be played in injury time. The celebration for Bellamy's goal was considered excessive and an extra 55 sec was added. The Carrick substitution adds another 30 sec. I never knew this before but apparently it is a rule that for a substitution, extra time is allotted, the amount of which is determined by the referee, but in general its about 30 seconds.
This gives roughly 1min and 25 seconds added to the initial 4 mins.
Owen scored at 95:25. Let me iterate that this is what was broken down on Setanta.
De time ting apparently fairly widely used. I never really knew bout it..buh when i found out bout it in bout January dis year...i was checking it out while watching games and it kinda held true. Buh guess ppl eh go want to hear dat.
And....while i eh see de game yet..from reports...at least 2 of city goals were due to capitalizing on blunders. Makes for an interesting return leg.
Allyuh men trying hard and still failing. Anybody care to explain then how 5:25' turn into 6:58'? What was de additional 1:33' for... to offset de cross breeze dat was blowing across de stadium clock?
I kinda wish people just call it what it is and cut de bullshit. Say "hard luck dey City, better luck next time" and leave it at that instead ah trying to justify it. Dat come like Wenger saying Eduardo didn't dive, he was juss frighten fuh he legs
Allowance for Time LostDahs page 2.....page 3 has....
Allowance is made in either period for all time lost through:
* substitution(s);
* assessment of injury to players;
Allowance for Time Lost
* removal of injured players from the field of play for treatment;
* wasting time;
* any other cause.
* The allowance for time lost is at the discretion of the referee.
The ref is allowed to add time for substitutions during the game, whether it is the beginning, middle or end; he can add time for goals being scored; celebrations; injuries, wasting time ect. Anything that may take away from the game being played in 90 minutes after all is said and done. It all comes down to the ref's discrestion. Some times the added time is never enough or is to much.
Any time a ref gives additional extra time in a match like this, it is giving extra incentive to the favored HOME team not the away team.. especially at a place like Old Trafford.
Rubbish both teams are from Manchester and as a result are practically at home, that is why its called a Derby! :devil:
you not serious...
The ref is allowed to add time for substitutions during the game, whether it is the beginning, middle or end; he can add time for goals being scored; celebrations; injuries, wasting time ect. Anything that may take away from the game being played in 90 minutes after all is said and done. It all comes down to the ref's discrestion. Some times the added time is never enough or is to much.
Ah doh know about that nah the rules are very clear time added on is time added on no more no less and if fifa officials looking on took notice should challenge that referee for clearly taking sides.
If the shoe was on the other foot ferguson would'nt let that go but then again the game of football is about taking it however yuh get it......
Yeah Bitter... I was very surprised at how unsporting Ferguson was in the aftermath of the match. You'd expect someone as esteemed and accomplished as him to be above that sort of thing. He makes Roy Keane seem like the quintessential gentleman by comparison.
Just check out the links I posted earlier from the Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6842017.ece) and The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/21/mark-hughes-michael-owen-city-united).
His comments were made in the heat of the moment, on the pitch seconds after the game had finished. He asked (rhetorically) which was better, 4-3 or 6-0, and he was actually implying that the 4-3 was better, ie - both teams had put on a helluva show. It was only after that he jokingly answered his own question, saying he would prefer the 6-0.
Anyway, much more entertaining than the age-old, "well the most important thing was the 3 points".
No way but down for ManU from here...they can't really get any better...ManC has the potential to get much better than the are now!dem is fighting words there man ;D
Big Up!
BBC Match of the Day 2 broke down the time added - recapped in this article.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/bitter-city-make-false-injury-time-complaint-awww/
Utd were the better team - City scored off of 3 errors, were dominated in the second half and would have been steamrolled if not for some more dodgy finishing by Berbatov. Bitter 'noisy neighbours' trying to hide the fact that they defended even worse in this game than Utd. That's why you don't invite pressure on u and actually try and hang onto the ball instead of leaving one of the best poachers in the history of the EPL wide open in the dying seconds of the game.
City can complain all they want - but still have a ways to go - a 35 year old Giggs showing them just how far.
Will be lucky to avoid another ban on one of their strikers as well - Bellamy's cheap shot on the Utd fan was cowardly and thuggish at best.
BBC Match of the Day 2 broke down the time added - recapped in this article.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/bitter-city-make-false-injury-time-complaint-awww/
Utd were the better team - City scored off of 3 errors, were dominated in the second half and would have been steamrolled if not for some more dodgy finishing by Berbatov. Bitter 'noisy neighbours' trying to hide the fact that they defended even worse in this game than Utd. That's why you don't invite pressure on u and actually try and hang onto the ball instead of leaving one of the best poachers in the history of the EPL wide open in the dying seconds of the game.
City can complain all they want - but still have a ways to go - a 35 year old Giggs showing them just how far.
Will be lucky to avoid another ban on one of their strikers as well - Bellamy's cheap shot on the Utd fan was cowardly and thuggish at best.
According to the London Times the fan spat on Bellamy... you call his response a "cheap shot", one can only assume that you know a more accurate version of events as reported. Assuming the guy did in fact spit on him... what do you propose his response should have been? Fuh shits and giggles... humor us with a suggestion nah.
Not that I particularly care... but I'm having too much fun pushing the conversation to see just how far you guys will go to explain the inexplicable. So the goal was scored on 95'27... Shea Given wasted a minute and a half on his goal kick? The fuzzy math doesn't add up... would be nice fuh allyuh men to just admit it, but is fun watching allyuh try to explain it all the same.
Bellamy went out of his way to walk over and confront the fan, it's not as if the fan ran up to him and spat on him. I could care less if the fan got smacked or not from my perspective, he's an idiot for running on the field (which carries an automatic 3 year stadium ban). But from the FA's perspective - I seriously doubt they're going to have much sympathy for Bellamy considering his history and even more doubtful that they're going to believe Hughes claim that it was 'self defense' considering the fan was being restrained by 3 stewards when Bellamy chose to have a go at him. He is supposed to be a professional at the end of the day - so unless the fan tried to physically harm him (which he didn't) - he has no real excuse for what he did.
"chose to have a go at him"... lol The guy spat on him and he 'mushed' dude in the face... bad enough they're calling it a punch, now you're making it out to be that Bellamy was brawling with the guy. Presumably there are more objective people on the disciplinary board... Bellamy will be issued a reprimand, if that. The guy's actually lucky Bellamy didn't knock him out after he spat on him.
In terms of the added time:-
1. 4 mins were originally specified by the ref (which can't be claimed to have been to the benefit of Utd, seeing as they were ahead long before it was announced).
2. 56 extra seconds for Bellamy's celebration.
3. 30 extra seconds for the Carrick substitution.
= 5 mins 26 seconds.
Owen scored at 5 mins and 27 seconds.
Now unless you expected the ref to blow the full-time whistle the moment Owen touched the ball in the 6 yard box, I don't see how anyone (and no respected figure in the footballing world ultimately has) can refute whether the ref approached matters correctly.
City were given 4 mins to equalize with Utd and even go on to win the game (one of which occurred) - it's just too bad for them that they chose to sit back and gift possession and space to Utd to capitalize on. I'm fairly sure none of you would be saying anything if City had scored in this time - with the plain fact of the matter being that they didn't deserve anything from this game, and were in all honesty, flattered by the 4-3 scoreline.
if in fact the time for the goal and substituion are valid rules
then how lucky united were that they were adhered to on sunday
because i have never seen or noticed refs giving and extra 30seconds in injury time due to substituions
The moral of the story: Injury time is up to the discretion of the referee.. A discretion which is suspiciously swayed in the favor of Man United at Old Trafford far too often for my liking.
Clearly there's no reasoning with haters.
You can't claim to be objective when pretty much every neutral expert has backed up the ref's decision, yet you still continue to claim bias & cheating on Utd's part. Try and put your feelings towards Utd aside for once and focus on your own team's success instead of spending time trying to reason away Utd's at every given turn (especially given the fact that Utd's rivals receive more stoppage time than they do at home):-
if in fact the time for the goal and substituion are valid rules
then how lucky united were that they were adhered to on sunday
because i have never seen or noticed refs giving and extra 30seconds in injury time due to substituions
well that is the bottom line, at the end of the day all that mathematical calculations on the length of the injury time is worth nought...
the signal on the board for injury time is a guide, but the length of injury time is solely up to the discretion of the referee.. Like i said, there are times when a goal is scored in injury time with lengthy celebrations and the match is blown from the ensuing kick off... where is adherance to these rules then??
There are even more countless occasions where subs are made during injury time to kill time off the clock, and no additional time is afforded to compensate.
The moral of the story: Injury time is up to the discretion of the referee.. A discretion which is suspiciously swayed in the favor of Man United at Old Trafford far too often for my liking.
Really? Anything else the voices are telling you? Your inaccurate claim that City sat back and "gift possession" to United aside, you still miss the point. Hughes said they timed the Bellamy goal celebration at 45 seconds... the ref added 56, but let's look beyond that for now. Assuming all that you say with the timing is correct... Owens scored with 95'26. Total match time was what... 96'58?
Anyways... it's been fun, time to move on.
if in fact the time for the goal and substituion are valid rules
then how lucky united were that they were adhered to on sunday
because i have never seen or noticed refs giving and extra 30seconds in injury time due to substituions
well that is the bottom line, at the end of the day all that mathematical calculations on the length of the injury time is worth nought...
the signal on the board for injury time is a guide, but the length of injury time is solely up to the discretion of the referee.. Like i said, there are times when a goal is scored in injury time with lengthy celebrations and the match is blown from the ensuing kick off... where is adherance to these rules then??
There are even more countless occasions where subs are made during injury time to kill time off the clock, and no additional time is afforded to compensate.
The moral of the story: Injury time is up to the discretion of the referee.. A discretion which is suspiciously swayed in the favor of Man United at Old Trafford far too often for my liking.
Like I said I agree that the real question is do refs show as much attention when a small club, with a greater expectation of losing gets the same attention to detail when they trailing a close game. My answer would be no but that is just speculation. I would say though that Chelsea benefits just as much as United.
It would be nice though if yuh couls cite some of these other occurences that happen far too often.
However I still try to be objective in my analysis and i notice no one is addressing the points i brought up so to repeat..
Extra injury time for subs - If this were true, then this should cause a seismic shift in conventional coaching methods in the game today.. Because the widely deployed tactic by coaches in the game is to bring on a man for a cobo sweat to kill time off the clock in injury time
Extra injury time for goal celebrations - If this were true, then i think referees should be disciplined for blowing matches immediately after a winning goal is scored in injury time.
Revealed: Manchester United get more injury time when they need it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time)
Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.
After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.
The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.
In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.
The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
Revealed: Manchester United get more injury time when they need it
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/22/manchester-united-goals-stoppage-time)
Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.
After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.
The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.
In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.
The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
We will take it, the same way Chelsea and their fans glady accept the over turning of every red card that has been given to one of their players in recent seasons in the EPL.