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Title: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Tallman on October 06, 2009, 05:18:40 AM
Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
By Ian Laws (Sunderland Echo)


Kenwyne Jones is rediscovering the form that made him "one of the most feared centre-forwards in the Premier League", reckons Sunderland boss Steve Bruce.

Jones grabbed his fifth goal of the season in Saturday's dramatic 2-2 draw at Manchester United.

He remains just two goals behind record signing and top scorer Darren Bent and Bruce must now hope the 25-year-old returns unscathed from Trinidad & Tobago's final World Cup qualifiers against Costa Rica and Mexico.

"Kenwyne is looking more like his old self," said Bruce.

"For a few months last season, even I was looking Ė from afar, because I was at Wigan Ė and thinking 'go on Kenwyne, can you find the form that made you probably one of the most feared centre-forwards in the league?'

"Because when he is really at it, that's what he is. And he looks like he is getting back to that again."

Jones and Bent's 12-goal partnership has been pivotal to Sunderland's strong start to the season, which sees them sitting eighth in the Premier League going into the international break ahead of an October 17 home clash with Liverpool.

Bruce has also added Fraizer Campbell to his striking options and views Kieran Richardson as an option up front as well as David Healy and Daryl Murphy.

Despite the impact of Bent and Jones, the manager says he will be prepared to mix it up in attack as the season progresses.

He admits: "I probably don't know my best pairing yet. It's horses for courses.

"It's a long, hard season, and players are bound to pick up knocks, a suspension or fall out of form.

"I haven't formulated anything just yet. But the one thing I have noticed with Benty, Fraizer and Kenwyne is that they enjoy playing with each other. That's important Ė there's a friendship and a respect coming between them.

"When Benty allowed Kenwyne to take the penalty against Wolves, I wasn't very happy but it was a sign of the spirit that's coming within the squad.

"Could you see Djibril Cisse throwing the ball to Kenwyne last season? I don't think so."

Trinidad & Tobago are away to Costa Rica on Saturday and host Mexico a week tomorrow. The Soca Warriors can't qualify for next summer's World Cup finals in South Africa.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Sam on October 06, 2009, 06:19:48 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: fitzinho on October 06, 2009, 06:31:29 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?
I've come to realize that every coach @ Sunderland has seen Jones as a top class striker when in form....maybe there is something we aren't doing locally to bring that out in him
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: noize on October 06, 2009, 06:32:37 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:   all yuh good yes...
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Brownsugar on October 06, 2009, 06:32:54 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

I was now coming to ask a similar question....
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Deeks on October 06, 2009, 07:02:35 AM
Al Davis, owner of the Oak. Raiders used to say " just win, baby, just win". As long as Sunderland win, all arguments are mute.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 07:04:34 AM
As long as Sunderland win, all arguments are mute.

And when dey lose, de arguments dem loud?  8)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 07:08:48 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 07:30:35 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

U eh get d memo dat dey use 2 send 4 DY dey justcut he name and paste KJ. He doh play 4 oui.
Title: I see meh boy Kenwyne
Post by: KND2 on October 06, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne

check for a ball.

Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in man jump into and through a keeper on a 50/50 ball and will the ball into the net.

And I say whey, That man has good first touch knows how to run off the ball and willing to put his life on the line for the team to score.

This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.

But I carh blame the man.

Is bout 20 million pounds or more he making to run out for sunderland for TnT he luckly to get 2000 US for match fees and that is only when they pay.

You have to put it all on the line to keep your place especially when you playing versus the champions.

But no worries in 10 years he could come back and play midfield for TnT after he done break all the premiership records in scoring. Just like Yorkie.

It only have 2 types of players who does play good for TnT.

1) Those who trying to reach where Kenwyne is
2) Those who comming to the end of the career and desperate for one last time to play in the world cup.

everything in between is waste of time.
They just not going to put it on the line and leave it all on the field.

But as I say, I carh blame the man.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: kicker on October 06, 2009, 08:10:10 AM
Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
By Ian Laws (Sunderland Echo)


"Could you see Djibril Cisse throwing the ball to Kenwyne last season? I don't think so."


I thought Cisse and Jones had a good understanding of eachother as well, and they were supposedly good friends off the field too...

They just didn't have as good midfield service/support, so they looked more disjointed up top.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Brownsugar on October 06, 2009, 08:38:35 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

It would have been nice to score at least one for he country in this campaign.....I still wondering why he even bother to come back for the next 2 games....oh yes, something about caps needed to play in the UK..... :-X
Title: Re: I see meh boy Kenwyne
Post by: #4 on October 06, 2009, 08:39:16 AM
Yuh NOW realizing this? Dat is what made men like Dog and Shaka special, although IMO Shaka's best moments were during 2006.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peong on October 06, 2009, 08:44:57 AM
Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

I happy KJ scorin, but goals in the EPL not doin much for me.
Scoring goals for your country, especially to get them to the World Cup, is much more important than scoring for your club.
Who here would not prefer that he was scorin those goals for T&T?
Title: Re: I see meh boy Kenwyne
Post by: Peong on October 06, 2009, 08:51:56 AM
KND besides Yorke and KJ I don't think this happened to any of our players.

Shaka had big contracts but he never played like he had one eye on Newcastle or West Ham.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 08:53:14 AM
Is it fair 2 compare Sunderland 2 TNT. We eh even talkin players dat KJ plays wit. We talkin environment. Sunderland is a team. TNT is a bunch of individuals wearin d same kit. So doh compare d both ah dem. As 4 usin we 2 get her wuk permit JW usin he 2 get we money so we go c him.

Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: dinho on October 06, 2009, 08:53:53 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

all time leading TnT scorer have to play in the EPL to score in the EPL..

allyuh like lackaray talk yes.
Title: Re: I see meh boy Kenwyne
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 08:54:27 AM
KND besides Yorke and KJ I don't think this happened to any of our players.

Shaka had big contracts but he never played like he had one eye on Newcastle or West Ham.


Like iz only strikers it does happen 2.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: dinho on October 06, 2009, 08:54:47 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?
I've come to realize that every coach @ Sunderland has seen Jones as a top class striker when in form....maybe there is something we aren't doing locally to bring that out in him

that would be crossing the ball.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: maxg on October 06, 2009, 09:51:29 AM
Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

I happy KJ scorin, but goals in the EPL not doin much for me.
Scoring goals for your country, especially to get them to the World Cup, is much more important than scoring for your club.
Who here would not prefer that he was scorin those goals for T&T?

:idea:
Just making the EPL team doing plenty for me
One of the greatest players couldn't reach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weah

"As successful as he was at club level, Weah was not able to bring over that success to the Liberian national team. He has done everything with the squad from playing to coaching to financing it, but failed to qualify for a single World Cup, falling just a point short in qualifying for the 2002 tournament. This has all led to Weah being known as one of the best footballers never to have played in a World Cup.

"
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

all time leading TnT scorer have to play in the EPL to score in the EPL..

allyuh like lackaray talk yes.

As if he never play in de EPL.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peong on October 06, 2009, 10:27:24 AM
Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

I happy KJ scorin, but goals in the EPL not doin much for me.
Scoring goals for your country, especially to get them to the World Cup, is much more important than scoring for your club.
Who here would not prefer that he was scorin those goals for T&T?

:idea:
Just making the EPL team doing plenty for me
One of the greatest players couldn't reach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weah

"As successful as he was at club level, Weah was not able to bring over that success to the Liberian national team. He has done everything with the squad from playing to coaching to financing it, but failed to qualify for a single World Cup, falling just a point short in qualifying for the 2002 tournament. This has all led to Weah being known as one of the best footballers never to have played in a World Cup.

"

You could settle for that if you want, but it's not enough for me.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: dinho on October 06, 2009, 10:29:59 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

all time leading TnT scorer have to play in the EPL to score in the EPL..

allyuh like lackaray talk yes.

As if he never play in de EPL.

play consistently.. is everything i must read and spell for you?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Deeks on October 06, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 10:38:42 AM
Which teams fearing Jones ?

Joe Public ?

AH would like to see a nex T&T player score 5 goals in 8 BPL games.

I cyah think of one other.

Big striker Jason Scotland cyah manage one yet.

Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

all time leading TnT scorer have to play in the EPL to score in the EPL..

allyuh like lackaray talk yes.

As if he never play in de EPL.

play consistently.. is everything i must read and spell for you?

Yuh have to be good enough to play consistently. 

H.E  W.A.S.N.T.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 11:01:40 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 06, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Funny how de Sunderland fans does say de same ting. It mus be he just doh like to play for nobody.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 11:07:20 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Funny how de Sunderland fans does say de same ting. It mus be he just doh like to play for nobody.

Yep he dey 4 d money
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peong on October 06, 2009, 11:11:32 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Funny how de Sunderland fans does say de same ting. It mus be he just doh like to play for nobody.

They eh have nutting to complain about, he scorin for them!
If his form for Sunderland was like his form for T&T he woulda been deep in de bench.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 11:19:41 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Funny how de Sunderland fans does say de same ting. It mus be he just doh like to play for nobody.























Fans are neva happy
They eh have nutting to complain about, he scorin for them!
If his form for Sunderland was like his form for T&T he woulda been deep in de bench.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 06, 2009, 11:34:30 AM
Everybody on this forum knows that the reasons for KJ lack of scoring for TT is due to the poor mid-field play. We DO NOT have good mid-field players at this moment. Like wise Sunderland mid-field was not effective. If Sunderland had good mid-field, Roy Keane would still be coach. Look you could get away with crappy mid for one season. But you better get decent ones for the next season or else........

Wrong he doh play good 4 oui by choice he doh jump high enuff when d ball reach him.
Funny how de Sunderland fans does say de same ting. It mus be he just doh like to play for nobody.

They eh have nutting to complain about, he scorin for them!
If his form for Sunderland was like his form for T&T he woulda been deep in de bench.
He's playing well for us also.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: maxg on October 06, 2009, 01:00:47 PM
Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

I happy KJ scorin, but goals in the EPL not doin much for me.
Scoring goals for your country, especially to get them to the World Cup, is much more important than scoring for your club.
Who here would not prefer that he was scorin those goals for T&T?

:idea:
Just making the EPL team doing plenty for me
One of the greatest players couldn't reach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weah

"As successful as he was at club level, Weah was not able to bring over that success to the Liberian national team. He has done everything with the squad from playing to coaching to financing it, but failed to qualify for a single World Cup, falling just a point short in qualifying for the 2002 tournament. This has all led to Weah being known as one of the best footballers never to have played in a World Cup.

"

You could settle for that if you want, but it's not enough for me.
yuh real hard on yuhself then
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: King Deese on October 06, 2009, 02:11:11 PM
I asking the same question myself because I don't remember seeing this or hearing about this. Bruce trying to seel somebody a bag of bullshit.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peter on October 06, 2009, 02:52:07 PM
All a alyuh criticising Kenwyne for not scoring for T&T is jokers- get out of your delusionary state,and stop seeking a scapegoat to deflect from confronting the hard truth of sub-par nature of our team.(if the right players are picked and organised, we have the potential to be a very effective TEAM though)

The clear and blatant problem is that t&t midfielders can barely play a decent final ball(proper pacy and accurate cross, through ball or pass to striker in opp. box). Sunderland midfielders- though not the best- can, especially the new guys this season(cattermole,cana). Of the literally one or two good final balls our team may play for a game, people expect the strikers to score every one.

Even the very best goalscorers won't score much on a team that can barely create ANY decent chances for them. Like another poster above said, our team is more like a collection of players wearing the same kit, they don't play together effectively. We have always had good strikers, but our midfield usually is sorely sub-par, so the defenders are left exposed and the strikers barely get any good final balls played to them. The only strikers who score for us are the type that can drop deeper and go forward and score, and not depend on the midfield.(e.g. Stern John- the guy so many ungrateful trinis deride)

A good midfield is supposed to consistently be able to create decent chances, our's anything but does that consistent. If strikers miss a chance, they're supposed to be able to pick themselves up and keep probing the opposition to get chances through to the striker, and even a half decent striker will likely eventually score a few.(And our strikers aren't just half decent, they're pretty good)
We act like our strikers are supposed to convert every of the one or two half chances our midfield could muster each match.

Even players like ronaldo and messi need a good team around them to perform effectively- just look what is going on with their national teams and wc2010 qualification.

You all need to wake up, and confront the hard truth that our team's problems go much deeper than you all want to admit. We always think our teams are better than they are and seek to blame one or two individuals for our failures-and that's a big part of our problems. We need to look at things honestly to solve our problems, and not take the easy, illogical and small-man ways out.(that won't get us anywhere of course, as evidenced our current state)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Trinimassive on October 06, 2009, 03:29:16 PM
All a alyuh criticising Kenwyne for not scoring for T&T is jokers- get out of your delusionary state,and stop seeking a scapegoat to deflect from confronting the hard truth of sub-par nature of our team.(if the right players are picked and organised, we have the potential to be a very effective TEAM though)

The clear and blatant problem is that t&t midfielders can barely play a decent final ball(proper pacy and accurate cross, through ball or pass to striker in opp. box). Sunderland midfielders- though not the best- can, especially the new guys this season(cattermole,cana). Of the literally one or two good final balls our team may play for a game, people expect the strikers to score every one.

Even the very best goalscorers won't score much on a team that can barely create ANY decent chances for them. Like another poster above said, our team is more like a collection of players wearing the same kit, they don't play together effectively. We have always had good strikers, but our midfield usually is sorely sub-par, so the defenders are left exposed and the strikers barely get any good final balls played to them. The only strikers who score for us are the type that can drop deeper and go forward and score, and not depend on the midfield.(e.g. Stern John- the guy so many ungrateful trinis deride)

A good midfield is supposed to consistently be able to create decent chances, our's anything but does that consistent. If strikers miss a chance, they're supposed to be able to pick themselves up and keep probing the opposition to get chances through to the striker, and even a half decent striker will likely eventually score a few.(And our strikers aren't just half decent, they're pretty good)
We act like our strikers are supposed to convert every of the one or two half chances our midfield could muster each match.

Even players like ronaldo and messi need a good team around them to perform effectively- just look what is going on with their national teams and wc2010 qualification.

You all need to wake up, and confront the hard truth that our team's problems go much deeper than you all want to admit. We always think our teams are better than they are and seek to blame one or two individuals for our failures-and that's a big part of our problems. We need to look at things honestly to solve our problems, and not take the easy, illogical and small-man ways out.(that won't get us anywhere of course, as evidenced our current state)

STERN JOHN  :beermug:

Dwight couldn't do what and he had skills and more experience than Stern.  When Beenie come to the team the first name he said he would put down to play is STERN.  Ah wonder why hmmmm Stern didn't have the contract that Dwight does and funny enough Dwight never had the contract KJ has.

The man couldn't even instill fear in El Salvador players then again neither could Dwight.

KJ owe we ah hattrick in the next game. Ah doh care if 4 smufs in midfield passing the ball

Buh doh worry that is young Drogba  :devil:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: just cool on October 06, 2009, 03:34:57 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Deeks on October 06, 2009, 03:36:27 PM
Trinimassive you can't be serious. Let them keep on hoofing the ball against CR and you see how much hattrick KJ go score.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
Trinimassive you can't be serious. Let them keep on hoofing the ball against CR and you see how much hattrick KJ go score.

It doh matter who pass he d ball u eh read.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 03:40:29 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.

By any means necessary fuh yuh boy DR to get a run eh?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.

By any means necessary fuh yuh boy DR to get a run eh?  :rotfl:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 06, 2009, 04:01:01 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.

You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find right now are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we fact up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 06, 2009, 04:05:23 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 06, 2009, 04:12:09 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.

You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find right now are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!
lol. So we doh need to fix de engine. We need to find more people to push. Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
KJ is an a$$ for coming back for this meaning less game!!!!! yuh eh see scotty blank dem! if he sustains ah serious injury yuh think the TTFF would look our for him and his family? think again! jack warner and co, only care about their own needs and fork everyone else, just look @ anthony noriega!

KJ needs tuh keep his arse in northeast england where he getting @ least 50,000 pounds ah week tuh kill his self, and if he sustains an injury , god forbid career ending , then he have insurance and compensation coming in to see him through, so fork jack and his ramshackle two bit lazy as all hell bullsh!t doubbles stand organization!

ah pretty sure after ah match dem boy don't even get ah nutricious meal tuh replenish their system from the rigurous 90 mins they just played, but yuh expect man tuh play heart and soul for this federation??!!

jack warner and camps have to go for the thing tuh run right.

You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find right now are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

Yorke and Latas play how much in d hex?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 04:32:29 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D


 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: STEUPS!! on October 06, 2009, 04:33:09 PM
so how all d other goals score den  ???. ah guess d midfield jus bias against KJ an refuse to give him service. all d other goal scorers in dis campaign hustle an wuk hard to score dey goal. KJ doh show no kinda hustle at all. he cyah expect to get every ball rite on he foot or right on he head. sometimes as a striker yuh have to hustle for d blasted ball. daiz all i askin of KJ. hustle for d ball every once in a while nah  8)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 04:38:37 PM
so how all d other goals score den  ???. ah guess d midfield jus bias against KJ an refuse to give him service. all d other goal scorers in dis campaign hustle an wuk hard to score dey goal. KJ doh show no kinda hustle at all. he cyah expect to get every ball rite on he foot or right on he head. sometimes as a striker yuh have to hustle for d blasted ball. daiz all i askin of KJ. hustle for d ball every once in a while nah  8)

Except v Bermuda d goals in dis campaign d forwards eh score. In d semi final round Keon was we top scorer. KJ came off injury and play 4 we v Cuba. He did not have 2 do dat so 2 say he fly back just 2 loaf on d field just not makin sense 4 me.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: PantherX on October 06, 2009, 04:44:04 PM
Trini football is a morass of corruption and bacchanal compared to that of a European professional club it's wonder that anyone manages to perform for T& on the field.

Say what you want about KJ but most clubs in the EPL would take him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 06, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Trini football is a morass of corruption and bacchanal compared to that of a European professional club it's wonder that anyone manages to perform for T& on the field.

Say what you want about KJ but most clubs in the EPL would take him in a heartbeat.

Dat doh matter breds he eh scorin 4 we dat iz what matters.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Deeks on October 06, 2009, 04:54:52 PM
Socapro,
 I beg to differ again. The last couple of games in the Hex when we barely made it thru, there was a certain amount of cohension in the mid-field. The combination of Carlos, Latas, Wheatley, Me-Mum and the rest(I can't remember) did play some good ball to control the mid in some of the games. It was not super,  but in the final 4 games or so, the mid-field gelled at the right moment.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Brownsugar on October 06, 2009, 05:38:37 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D


Yuh see you....yuh like too much bachanal!!!.... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Trinimassive on October 06, 2009, 05:48:04 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D


LAWD nah. Yuh gone way back and buss the man files wide wide open in public  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Trinimassive on October 06, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
Trinimassive you can't be serious. Let them keep on hoofing the ball against CR and you see how much hattrick KJ go score.

Ok Ok ah brace. But nothing less
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 06:46:40 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D


LAWD nah. Yuh gone way back and buss the man files wide wide open in public  :rotfl:

Nah man......socapro is meh padnah.  He is a BIG Stern John fan fuh real.  Jes havin some fun wit de big man... 8)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Pointman on October 06, 2009, 07:27:07 PM
Jones BPL goal tally dis season alone done double de all time leading T&T scorer CAREER EPL tally.

If KJ so shitty, wha dat really sayin bout de ress?

Allyuh good yes.

I happy KJ scorin, but goals in the EPL not doin much for me.
Scoring goals for your country, especially to get them to the World Cup, is much more important than scoring for your club.
Who here would not prefer that he was scorin those goals for T&T?


 KJ mining any ah allyuh on this site? leh de man do he job nah. ::)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 06, 2009, 07:40:09 PM
You are correct with your opening line if once again KJ fails to score!

I doh want to hear no more excuses bout our malfunctioning midfield because when Latas & Dwight & Birchall were in the middle earlier in the Hex it made no difference back then either as both KJ & JS still weren't scoring!

Itís time we face up to the fact that right now for T&T both KJ and JS is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, they don't fit right now so what we need to find are the Stern John type strikers who rely less on a midfield that will hand them everything on a plate!!

De same Stern John you was cussin up to de oddah day?

Dat Stern John?  8)

I was never one of those cussing up Stern John, the man has my undying respect despite the missed penalty against El Salvador!!  :beermug:

If only Beenie had bench Stern for all dat shit he was putting down maybe Stern would have realised by now that as a capatain he personally let himself and his team down badly with his substandard performances in all 3 games we played!

Stern its time to wake-up!! Yuh pants bottom was smellfully brown at the end of each game and it was not from mud on the pitch!  >:(

Somebody mus be did teef yuh password den... ;D


LAWD nah. Yuh gone way back and buss the man files wide wide open in public  :rotfl:

Nah man......socapro is meh padnah.  He is a BIG Stern John fan fuh real.  Jes havin some fun wit de big man... 8)

Nice one Palos yuh catch meh out dey, yuh is ah real tracer, I didn't realise yuh woulda go and trace that far back to our 2006 qualification campaign! But wasn't that campaign a successful one in the end and did we not make the trip to Germany as a result? Well the main reason for that is that Stern and some of the others heeded our cries and delivered when it mattered during that campaign. Everyone here but Disgruntled Trini would acknowledge that without Stern's crucial goals there would not have been any Soca Warriors invading Germany in summer 2006!

Yes, Iíve criticised Stern in the pass when he was throwing away way too many chances but guess what, the man always came good in the end and shut everyone up!! Call him Stern Ďthrow wayí John if you will but most of the time he created his chances out of nothing and would score one or two after throwing way three or four! Give me that any day over a striker who doh/cyah create any chances for himself when playing for T&T but could score at will in the EPL based on getting perfect serve from the midfielders! We cannot buy better midfielders for T&T like a club can so in the meantime we need more Sternís up front or be prepared for more failed qualification campaigns like the current one!

And to those arguing that we need to concentrate on fixing we midfield problem yes I agree but we cannot sort that out overnight so let us use the strikers to suite the problem we have rather than persistently wasting KJís time while our midfield is not up to scratch!!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Deeks on October 06, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
So tell me Socapro,
                           how is Stern going to get the ball. We just continually hoof it for him. yes that can work once twice 3 times. We have to vary our plays. That entails mid-fields and defence  being able to control the ball under pressure, make both short and long passes(when apt). Right now 70% of the time is the defence sending the ball long, Stern chases and hoping the the mids or another forward are there to support. Them CA teams can read that play a mile away.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 06, 2009, 08:14:17 PM
So tell me Socapro,
                           how is Stern going to get the ball. We just continually hoof it for him. yes that can work once twice 3 times. We have to vary our plays. That entails mid-fields and defence  being able to control the ball under pressure, make both short and long passes(when apt). Right now 70% of the time is the defence sending the ball long, Stern chases and hoping the the mids or another forward are there to support. Them CA teams can read that play a mile away.

I never argue for us to play long ball football, where you hear me argue for that boring give away possession nonsense?!! I hate that $hit!!

If we have a decent coach then he will get our players at least trying to play possession football and use our midfield regardless of how weak our midfield players might be!

What I am asking for is for more Stern John type strikers, not necessarily for Stern John himself so that if we canít get perfect balls up to our strikers then they can at least try to create some chances for themselves, end of story!! Know your weaknesses and be prepared to compensate for them if you want success! That's all I ask, I never argued for no long-ball throw away possession nonsense!! Thatís your argument!!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 06, 2009, 08:38:24 PM
What I am asking for is for more Stern John type strikers, not necessarily for Stern John himself so that if we canít get perfect balls up to our strikers then they can at least try to create some chances for themselves, end of story!! Know your weaknesses and be prepared to compensate for them if you want success! That's all I ask, I never argued for no long-ball throw away possession nonsense!! Thatís your argument!!

I still think your argument about "Stern John type" strikers is flawed.

In the 2005 campaign...Stern scored against Guatemala (twice)
Panama, and Mexico (twice).

Against Guatemala, his goals were assisted by a 37 year old Latapy and a 34 year old Yorke
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Latapyís quickness of eye and feet proved vital as he played the ball to John in the Guatemala area and John put it to Kleeís right with a stiff one-time shot.

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With time and space, John chested Yorkeís chip in the area let it bounce and blasted a half- volley past Klee on the first post a minute after his first goal, to set the red, white and black 23,000 plus crowd in a delightful crescendo of acclamation.


Against Panama, this was how his goal was scored:

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And in the very next minute, Penedo drove a long goal kick, and Dennis Lawrence headed powerfully to Stern John, who dropped it back for Latapy, playing MIDFIELD. Latapy sent a pretty through ball for Jones, on a neat diagonal run. Jones collided with a defender, went down--but managed to push the ball to Stern John, who blasted a beauty of a left-footer past Penedo.

Against Mexico here's how it went down:

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Whitley's mazy dribble and low spanking drive from 25 yards out ricocheted off the post before being turned in by a diving John.

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This time, Whitley's charge was blocked by an opponent but the Pro League player reacted quickly to flick the loose ball to John.

He might not the fleetest of foot but John knows better than to fool around at the dinner table.

One touch to turn and the other sent the ball screaming into the top left-hand corner. Corona was lucky just to see it.

5 great, clinical and CRUCIAL finishes by Stern John.  One can even make a credible case that KJ would not have been able to finish in a similar manner on at least 3 of the 5 goals.

However, it is undeniable that 2 of the providers were well past their best in this 2009 campaign (4 years older each at 41 and 38 respectively) and the other provider was simply not present and there is currenly no one in the midfield even approaching similar quality.

Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 06, 2009, 09:08:45 PM
Palos, if I didn't know any better I would be convinced you related to Dick Tracey!

My reference to us needing Stern John type strikers is more to do with putting the ball in the back of the net when it matters most and our backs are against the wall rather than to do with whether he created the chances for himself or got a pin-point accurate pass from a Latas or Yorke type midfielder.

Don't tell me you are starting every game for T&T mainly because you play in the EPL and them English clubs rate you but you cyah produce anything for T&T! I'm not interested in whatever excuses folks want to make for you not after starting x number of games and yuh still firing blanks! KJ had his chance, its time to give him a break and let someone else have a go and get some Hex experience!!

I will much prefer if he stayed in England and keeps his starting place for his club if that's the case! Please doh tell me you cyah score for my team over and over and over again and still expect me to be happy with the coachís persistence in calling you back rather than giving you a well deserved break and giving someone esle an opportunity as they cyah do any worse!

Goals win matches, excuses are for losers!!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: maxg on October 06, 2009, 10:27:03 PM
So Pro, lemme get what yuh saying,
Doh matter how much KJ(or JS) repping in EPL, no matter how much he showing in the lil few days ah practice that he probaly better than anyone else, no matter we don't have anybody else anywhere showing they not hot, Latapy should just play ah musical chairs game with the strikers, until he find a "Stern John type" one, and we get a goal, and then keep that one as the main striker....cause KJ not scoring no matter wheter he getting the ball or not..Yet just maybe another striker, who not showing themselves now dominating in any league, or in dat lil few days practice will get the 'Stern John' spirit and manage to score, and we business go be fix, come 2014 ?
Who yuh recommend will ketch the spirit, who yuh have in mind....who Latapy should just jump out on ah limb and pick, regardless of form or practice, so we could wonder if he mad...shim he done sticking with Keon and Denzil, so anything possible...tell we who yuh crystal turntables telling yuh will do it...and if he do it, and prove yuh right this time, and when the big game come and the man don't score, what is yuh next musical mix (ah hear yuh is ah good DJ), look for another who type ah player...yuh cyah see ah "Maradona type" player in the mix for we ? ;D
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 12:56:01 AM
So Pro, lemme get what yuh saying,
Doh matter how much KJ(or JS) repping in EPL, no matter how much he showing in the lil few days ah practice that he probaly better than anyone else, no matter we don't have anybody else anywhere showing they not hot, Latapy should just play ah musical chairs game with the strikers, until he find a "Stern John type" one, and we get a goal, and then keep that one as the main striker....cause KJ not scoring no matter wheter he getting the ball or not..Yet just maybe another striker, who not showing themselves now dominating in any league, or in dat lil few days practice will get the 'Stern John' spirit and manage to score, and we business go be fix, come 2014 ?
Who yuh recommend will ketch the spirit, who yuh have in mind....who Latapy should just jump out on ah limb and pick, regardless of form or practice, so we could wonder if he mad...shim he done sticking with Keon and Denzil, so anything possible...tell we who yuh crystal turntables telling yuh will do it...and if he do it, and prove yuh right this time, and when the big game come and the man don't score, what is yuh next musical mix (ah hear yuh is ah good DJ), look for another who type ah player...yuh cyah see ah "Maradona type" player in the mix for we ? ;D

Look here Maxg, ah doh care how logical your argument may sound bout KJ might be showing he's the best in training and ting like that, as far as T&T football is concerned he has proven to be a square peg in a round hole! Scoring in practice or in EPL and scoring in the real thing for we, is two completely different things all together! How much more chance yuh what give one man to score again? Michael Jackson asked for ďOne More ChanceĒ (yuh must know the song) and didnít even get it and you want to give KJ and dem man 20 more chance just because them playing in EPL? We done cyah qualify so now is the time to blood some other strikers and see what they can do ah doh care if is some new striker from Toco United that we never hear about, let him have a go now and let KJ concern himself with keeping his starting spot with Sunderland!

Anyway itís too late now as the hard-headed Latas already call KJ back and he in the squad and gone to CR with the team! How much yuh want to bet that Latas starts him again so he better score and ah doh care if is by pure fluke because the ball hit him on the back of he head when he was running scared from another midget and get deflected into the goal! We more than due something now from KJ the law of averages say so or else nah bother to call him back until 2014 qualifiers start back in about two years time!!  Maybe then he will come back hungrier and do the business as heíll realise we demand goals and not excuses from our strikers! ;)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: maxg on October 07, 2009, 07:39:02 AM
OK..now that ah clear on what yuh saying...yuh talking chupidness...otherwise we woulda be beating the world everytime, by just picking anybody who never play for we National team before, with very few exceptions of course  :-X
Title: Re: I see meh boy Kenwyne
Post by: Storeboy on October 07, 2009, 07:59:18 AM
This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne

check for a ball.

Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in man jump into and through a keeper on a 50/50 ball and will the ball into the net.

And I say whey, That man has good first touch knows how to run off the ball and willing to put his life on the line for the team to score.

This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.

But I carh blame the man.

Is bout 20 million pounds or more he making to run out for sunderland for TnT he luckly to get 2000 US for match fees and that is only when they pay.

You have to put it all on the line to keep your place especially when you playing versus the champions.

But no worries in 10 years he could come back and play midfield for TnT after he done break all the premiership records in scoring. Just like Yorkie.

It only have 2 types of players who does play good for TnT.

1) Those who trying to reach where Kenwyne is
2) Those who comming to the end of the career and desperate for one last time to play in the world cup.

everything in between is waste of time.
They just not going to put it on the line and leave it all on the field.

But as I say, I carh blame the man.

Well said! 
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Ngozi on October 07, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
I simply don't rate him anymore and he not anywhere in Stern class in terms of finishing big and strong waste of time ...
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: grskywalker on October 07, 2009, 08:11:20 AM
Well concacaf teams don't seem to fear him. What Knewayne needs to show is aggression that is what is lacking from his game. I look at the way Drogba goes after every ball that's near him pushing and fighting his way through opposition and at least trying to get a shot off, or just taking a half chance. If Kenwayne adopts that kind of hunger then I will start making such comparisons.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: maxg on October 07, 2009, 09:55:50 AM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 12:15:56 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday waisting their time when they have important games to prepare for!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 07, 2009, 12:20:22 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 01:06:53 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: dinho on October 07, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 07, 2009, 01:09:39 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!

Accordin 2 Mcain my friend Bruce eh care if KJ score 4 oui all he eh want is 4 he not 2 get injured playin 4 oui.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstrates to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager! Plus he is also risking getting injured!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 07, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 01:23:48 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 01:28:42 PM
OK..now that ah clear on what yuh saying...yuh talking chupidness...otherwise we woulda be beating the world everytime, by just picking anybody who never play for we National team before, with very few exceptions of course  :-X

What I am saying is that other striking options CANNOT do any worse for us so lets give them a shot!

What is so difficulty to understand there?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 07, 2009, 01:31:40 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 01:39:53 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: trinikev on October 07, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!

JS never said that tho...
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 07, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!

JS never said that tho...

Tell him even after d KFC he was willin 2 come back.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 07, 2009, 11:35:56 PM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!

JS never said that tho...

Tell him even after d KFC he was willin 2 come back.

Yuh missing my point by a mile! The question to ask is come back to do what? When we needed KJ to score while we had a chance to qualify he consistently came up with blanks! We don't really need him to score now when it does not matter!
Time to give our young upcoming strikers a chance to prove what they are worth and to get some Hex experience.
I cyah blame KJ too much though as he patriotic and want to represent but he is a square peg in a round hole for T&T!
But is really Latas to blame for still calling KJ back knowing what happened to him in that friendly versus England and also knowing that there is a high risk of KJ being demoted to the bench on his return!  8)

The only way KJ could make this trip worthwhile for himself is to score at least 1 goal so we'll have to see what happens!
I seriously want the man to shut me up about why he wasting his time coming back at this stage to play for T&T when we can no longer qualify!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peter on October 08, 2009, 01:37:23 AM
Well concacaf teams don't seem to fear him. What Knewayne needs to show is aggression that is what is lacking from his game. I look at the way Drogba goes after every ball that's near him pushing and fighting his way through opposition and at least trying to get a shot off, or just taking a half chance. If Kenwayne adopts that kind of hunger then I will start making such comparisons.

Very true, aggression is distinctly and sorely lacking from his game. I think if he can add that, it will really take his game to the next level.

Also, to add to what I posted about our midfield. We have some good midfield players(if the best are chosen), who work hard and can play well, but just need to be organised better to function as more of a unit. Besides proper organisation and rooting out all the bacchanal that goes on with our football that disrupts the team, one of the easily recognizable crucial aspects that is missing in our team is a midfield playmaker(like Latapy). Most of our midfielders aren't creative type players, and mostly pass the ball sideways or long.

Even big teams struggle to create good chances sometimes if they're playing more conservatively and without a creative midfielder, so much more for us. Most times they'll rely on scoring on the counter- which requires speed/and or accurate and decisive passing from the entire team, and not boomkicking out of defense, something that's unrealistic for our team atm. (not entirely down to the players' inability, but also because of the relative disorganisation of our football hierarchy and coaching, stunts our team from developing to the point where they can play that effectively)

We should always have a creative midfielder on the field, unless we're playing some really strong team and need to play more conservatively.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: weary1969 on October 08, 2009, 04:30:19 AM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!

JS never said that tho...

Tell him even after d KFC he was willin 2 come back.

Yuh missing my point by a mile! The question to ask is come back to do what? When we needed KJ to score while we had a chance to qualify he consistently came up with blanks! We don't really need him to score now when it does not matter!
Time to give our young upcoming strikers a chance to prove what they are worth and to get some Hex experience.
I cyah blame KJ too much though as he patriotic and want to represent but he is a square peg in a round hole for T&T!
But is really Latas to blame for still calling KJ back knowing what happened to him in that friendly versus England and also knowing that there is a high risk of KJ being demoted to the bench on his return!  8)

The only way KJ could make this trip worthwhile for himself is to score at least 1 goal so we'll have to see what happens!
I seriously want the man to shut me up about why he wasting his time coming back at this stage to play for T&T when we can no longer qualify!  :beermug:

U vex d man patriotic if he score a hattrick sat peeps go come right here and cuss and say y now we cyah go WC. Mayb d more hex experience he get go benefit we 4 2014 or iz dat he eh go b part of dat campaign either?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 08, 2009, 11:03:05 AM
Sky
I would love to eat ah steak, but I could only afford doubles, ah cyah vex with nobody else for me not doing me school work in the earlies...doh mean ah not going to eat, and give up on trying to attain that steak.

Knd, Storeboy

wha bout if the story maybe go like this
'This weekend I was watching Tv and I see me boy Kenwyne playin for TT
check for a ball.
[u]Cyah get ah direct pass...finally get One[/u]
Mess it up
Finally get anudda , Play a nice first time ball (good touch) back to the midfielder

Peel off into the box for the return.

eyes focused on the ball
cross ball comes in , oops behind he back, nobody dey ,
finally ah nex one come in, shim he just gettin up off the ground again from whey a small man just lik him down, after helping double team him, on ah little anyway clearance, for the 5th timer

come back from running, d man jump into the air and miss, over he head, no where near the keeper, will himself to get the ball, and hit ah free man, make ah run for it, the man blast over bars.

And I say whey, That man shoulda pass, buh wait, KJ cyah score for we at all, at least other man getting shot.
This the is same man that will not even run through a 5 foot 4 El Salvadorian weighing 135 pounds for the red white and black.
Only Shadowing and going through the motions on the field.
I feel the injury he get against england change his midset.
Just like what happend to Yorke in Jamaica.


Maxg, I going to tell you this one more time! EXCUSES for KJ not scoring have run out they have expired!!
If he doh score in CR in that game on Saturday and do the same against Mexico on Wednesday then his manager Bruce after all the pep-talk will bench his tail for not knowing by now to stop wasting his time going all the way to the Caribbean to play for T&T and coming back with nothing to show for it!  I won't blame Bruce for that one bit as the man will be right!! He wants to hear that his top strikers are scoring goals and not dashing off on a cheap holiday when they have important games to prepare for!

So he last came for Sunderland he score against Man U no less. But if he he score 4 we in d next 2 games Bruce go bench him. We done confirm dat he doh play 4 we like he does play 4 Sunderland so he eh go score. He eh go b very tired and he go travel back 2 d UK in first class ready 4 Sunderland.

I think as usual if KJ doh score for T&T, Bruce will bench his tail at least for one game for wasting his time travelling all the way to the Caribbean, just watch and see!
But if KJ scores for T&T, Bruce may want to bench him but will think twice and still play him on that same weekend he's back!

Just my suspicion, weíll have to wait and see if my theory on how Bruce will react when KJ gets back is proven correct!


You seriously think Bruce care whether or not KJ score for T&T?  ::)

Bruce cares about whether KJ leaving to represent T&T in what he views as a meaningless match is justified!
Also KJ scoring for T&T demonstartes to Bruce that he is in goal scoring form and puts pressure on Bruce to play him on that very weekend that he gets back from the Caribbean!

See the logic there? Scoring for T&T somewhat justifies KJ leaving to play for us but not scoring for us and getting bad reviews sends out the wrong message to his manager!

 All yuh done say d man doh play hard 4 we. Bruce must b done read dat here so he have 1 wish 4 KJ come back injury free. He have no choice but 2 send him because he eh want FIFA ah mean JW down he throat. Not 2 mention d FA as dey do dey sound and dance wit JW 2 get d WC in 2018.

My argument is that at this time KJ should have gotten smart like JS and say to Latas, thanks for the invite but no thanks this time round. I need to put my head down for Sunderland right now and secure my starting position. Letís give one of the other young strikers an opportunity to prove themself for the next two games and get some crucial Hex experience. I already have enough Hex experience so these two games wonít be as important to and beneficial to me as it would be to one of the other young guys needing the experience!

Then woulda get cuss 4 not comin 2 play 4 we. JLlyod was willin 2 come he had some ticketin problems. So if JL was willin y not KJ?

Yes KJ is willing, otherwise he wouldn't have accepted the invite!

My argument is that KJ should get smart like JS and say thanks but no thanks to Latas this time round.
KJ's position is different to JL's, different club, different position and different manager plus one is trying to establish himself as part of the T&T team while the other is a sure pick due to friendism from Latas!

JS never said that tho...

Tell him even after d KFC he was willin 2 come back.

Yuh missing my point by a mile! The question to ask is come back to do what? When we needed KJ to score while we had a chance to qualify he consistently came up with blanks! We don't really need him to score now when it does not matter!
Time to give our young upcoming strikers a chance to prove what they are worth and to get some Hex experience.
I cyah blame KJ too much though as he patriotic and want to represent but he is a square peg in a round hole for T&T!
But is really Latas to blame for still calling KJ back knowing what happened to him in that friendly versus England and also knowing that there is a high risk of KJ being demoted to the bench on his return!  8)

The only way KJ could make this trip worthwhile for himself is to score at least 1 goal so we'll have to see what happens!
I seriously want the man to shut me up about why he wasting his time coming back at this stage to play for T&T when we can no longer qualify!  :beermug:

U vex d man patriotic if he score a hattrick sat peeps go come right here and cuss and say y now we cyah go WC. Mayb d more hex experience he get go benefit we 4 2014 or iz dat he eh go b part of dat campaign either?

I'm not vex the man patriotic, I vex he couldn't score when it mattered and might score now when it doesn't.

I am more vex with Latas for consistently calling KJ back and starting him despite his consistent lack of goals.

Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2009, 11:09:19 AM
Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!

Dis is pure unadulterated f**kry!
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 08, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
We should always have a creative midfielder on the field, unless we're playing some really strong team and need to play more conservatively.

What if the opposition decides to mark that "creative midfielder" out the game?  What then?

I also wonder who this "creative midfielder" would be?  Hardest?  Guerra?  Dwarika?  Daniel?  Who?

Just curious.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 08, 2009, 11:23:53 AM
Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!

Latas have Bent as an option?

How many goals Frazier Campbell score for Sunderland?
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 08, 2009, 11:43:37 AM
Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!

Latas have Bent as an option?

How many goals Frazier Campbell score for Sunderland?

Palos u studyin da fella an he shit talk?! ???
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: lefty on October 08, 2009, 11:56:30 AM
Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!

Latas have Bent as an option?

How many goals Frazier Campbell score for Sunderland?

Palos u studyin da fella an he shit talk?! ???
ditto on dat, he been shown evidence that proves dat your supporting cast is key to success viz Latas/yorke  in 2005, Stern despite the goals wasn't d main cog in dat final push an' was ah relative non entity until their intro
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: palos on October 08, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
ditto on dat, he been shown evidence that proves dat your supporting cast is key to success viz Latas/yorke  in 2005, Stern despite the goals wasn't d main cog in dat final push an' was ah relative non entity until their intro

Oh Oh.  Here comes Berris!  ;D
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: lefty on October 08, 2009, 12:09:44 PM
ditto on dat, he been shown evidence that proves dat your supporting cast is key to success viz Latas/yorke  in 2005, Stern despite the goals wasn't d main cog in dat final push an' was ah relative non entity until their intro

Oh Oh.  Here comes Berris!  ;D

baccanalist ;D
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Flex on October 10, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
Jones scored again, making it three goals in two games for the Jamaican international, as Sunderland nearly pulled of the victory in Manchester, but settled for a 2-2 draw with United.  .. MORE (http://www.rotowire.com/Kenwyne-Jones-googid6772-spsoccer.htm)
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: WestCoast on October 10, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Jones scored again, making it three goals in two games for the Jamaican international, as Sunderland nearly pulled of the victory in Manchester, but settled for a 2-2 draw with United.  .. MORE (http://www.rotowire.com/Kenwyne-Jones-googid6772-spsoccer.htm)
wha ya expect from ah mexican website :devil:

and if ya click on the
"More News for Kenwyne Jones" link ya will see that he born in TnT ;D
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Quags on October 10, 2009, 12:41:24 PM
Jones scored again, making it three goals in two games for the Jamaican international, as Sunderland nearly pulled of the victory in Manchester, but settled for a 2-2 draw with United.  .. MORE (http://www.rotowire.com/Kenwyne-Jones-googid6772-spsoccer.htm)
That just show that them  ppl really dont give ah f**k,where yah from .Its just Geography.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: royal on October 10, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
So when Blanco score we should say de American international after all he from North America.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Peter on October 11, 2009, 12:43:19 PM
We should always have a creative midfielder on the field, unless we're playing some really strong team and need to play more conservatively.

What if the opposition decides to mark that "creative midfielder" out the game?  What then?

I also wonder who this "creative midfielder" would be?  Hardest?  Guerra?  Dwarika?  Daniel?  Who?

Just curious.

I saying a good while i feel Keon Daniel will be a very good creative midfielder in the center for us. Why? He can play better through balls than almost all our players and can generally pass better, and has plenty skills which allows him to create space and pass. I feel he will excell playing a role simular to Riquelme(a creative midfielder who relies on his skills to create space make up for his lack of speed), though I'm obviously not comparing their playing skills, but he's young and his game can develop if he's guided correctly.

It's also a position where he wouldn't have to run as much as when playing winger, as running is obviously not his specialty- he looks like he's running in vat of molasses. I still find he doesn't look anywhere close to optimal fitness, if  he does some proper weight training and gets fitter overall, his energy levels on the field will greatly increase.
Title: Re: Teams will fear Jones, says Bruce
Post by: Socapro on October 11, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Latas needs to watch how Bruce (of Sunderland) operates and learn from an experienced head coach how to motivate your players to perform better once you decide to start them!

Latas have Bent as an option?

How many goals Frazier Campbell score for Sunderland?

Palos u studyin da fella an he shit talk?! ???
ditto on dat, he been shown evidence that proves dat your supporting cast is key to success viz Latas/yorke  in 2005, Stern despite the goals wasn't d main cog in dat final push an' was ah relative non entity until their intro

Sorry guys, I haven't had time to post anything all weekend as I was busy with other important things.

As usual Palos is playing devil's advocate again.

Anyway to clarify my point, I'm referring to how Bruce motivates his players into performing better by making it clear that their starting position (if they regularly start) is not be taken for granted. I'm saying that Latas can learn something from Bruce there.
I was not looking at the quality of striker options available and anyway with a club team you can buy new/better options if you need them unlike as you can do with a national team.

At any rate its too late to leave out KJ now as he has already answered the call-up and has made the long trip to the Caribbean for these last two remaining Hex games, well last one now as we lost 4-0 to CR and itís by an even bigger margin than I would have predicted.

If I was KJ I would have followed JS's example and save face while also giving another youngster a chance knowing what our team is like and my strengths and weaknesses as a striker.

So no goals yet from KJ and to be honest I was hoping that the man would have surprised me and still come up with something but we still have Mexico to play at home so itís not too late yet for him to register something in this Hex.
If KJ score on Wednesday in that totally meaningless game then expect him to make at least 3 back flip as it will be like him getting a massive jinkís off his back!!

Btw I didn't see the game as I was playing out at a Dinner & Dance! Has anyone recorded and uploaded the game?