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Warriors manager caught in travel row.
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday).
An Apparent bungling of airline ticket arrangements has stymied Jlloyd Samuel’s return to Trinidad and Tobago earlier this week.
The 28-year-old left-back was due in Trinidad on Monday, as the national football team prepared for tomorrow’s 2010 FIFA World Cup CONCACAF Zone Final Round Qualifier against Costa Rica.
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), in a media release on Tuesday, noted that the Bolton Wanderers defender missed the trip to San Jose in Costa Rica since he “pulled up with a groin strain in practice.”
No word was given, at the time, where Samuel sustained his injury but, according to a news report on a local radio station (I 95.5FM) on Wednesday morning, the defender was injured in England on Monday.
The injury came after his calamitous two-day run-around in his attempt to return home.
A source, revealing inside information about the ticket saga, stated: “He was sent an e-mail (on) Sunday evening for flight details for Sunday morning. Since when does Sunday evening comes before Sunday morning?” the source questioned.
“Then he got a message on Sunday from the manager (David Muhammad) asking where he was. It was not even a phone call, it was a message on the BB (Black Berry).”
The source said that, following the mix-up on Sunday, a promise was made to Samuel that he will be rescheduled to travel on Monday.
“He got to the airport only to find out that there was no ticket for him,” the source said. “He showed the details and they said, ‘Sorry, we do not have a ticket under your name’.
“So, after being made a fool of for two days straight, he then called his manager at Bolton (Gary Megson) and said that he will not be travelling, so he went training on Monday morning.” It was, at that training session, that a frustrated Samuel sustained a pulled muscle on his right groin.
“Then (David) Muhammad sent him another BB to say that he has him booked for Tuesday,” the source continued. “So, by then, he was already injured and sent him back a BB to say that he will not be able to come.
The source admitted that Samuel was yet to receive a call from the TTFF concerning his injury and, as a result, a complaint was sent, via e-mail, to the TTFF’s Technical Director Lincoln “Tiger” Phillips.
The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
The source also expressed shock that, after the September 9 qualifier at home to the United States, the national players were fed KFC chicken and pizza, which were provided by the sponsors Prestige Holdings Limited.
However, the source affirmed that Samuel still expressed his desire to continue to represent the TT squad, despite this ticketing run-around. But it is unclear if the San Fernando-born Samuel, who represented England at the youth level, will be available for the last game in the Final Round Qualifiers, on October 14, at home to Mexico.
Last evening, the TTFF issued a media release, addressed by Muhammad, refuting claims that Samuel was yo-yoed in his quest to join the TT squad for tomorrow’s qualifier.
In his invitation letter to the British-based players, dated September 26, the TT team manager informed the players (as well as their respective clubs) that they were expected to “fly in to Trinidad on the evening of October 4 and then we all leave as a team to Costa Rica on October 7.”
And, in a statement, Muhammad emphasised that, “Jlloyd, for some reason, felt that he was to fly on October 5 and went to the airport also, despite what the letter said.
“I was informed by Simpaul’s Travel Agency that Samuel’s ticket was paid for, in full, and available on October 5 but was not located, due to the date change and original ticket number.
“His travel itinerary was e-mailed on September 29 but, unlike the other players, he did not receive the information until I spoke to him and his agent directly,” Muhammad ended.
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We need a Rosa Parks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks) in T&T.
Imagine man riding first class getting drunk while some men riding coach eating nuts.
And de funny thing is, de locals does play better than de foreigners (Edwards apart)...
Imagine professional T&T players eating KFC and washing it down with a Stag and Carib. While USA eating pasta and grill chicken with gatorade.
No wonder after 60 minutes we players bun and tired !!!!
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Who is mohammed for he to get dat wuk ?
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Who is mohammed for he to get dat wuk ?
Wrong mohammed, it should be muhammad.
And he along with de rest including Fuentes is one of Jack puppets.
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Wrong mohammed, it should be muhammad....just dumb just maddining
Clue...less... :devil:
The man just following ???.....maybe he just did not grasp Jack`s instructions
Just wondering when these incompetent people will display some level of professionalism
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Could this have anything to do with the fact that the foreign-based players were traveling a much longer distance than the local-based? After all, they were supposed to meet up in Miami, which means the UK-based had already flown at least 8 hours plus whatever traveling time is needed from the towns where they reside. To me, the more pertinent question is whether or not the different seating arrangements occur when all of the players are traveling from T&T. Ideally, the players should be in the same section, but I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason for sometimes having them in different areas.
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Could this have anything to do with the fact that the foreign-based players were traveling a much longer distance than the local-based? After all, they were supposed to meet up in Miami, which means the UK-based had already flown at least 8 hours plus whatever traveling time is needed from the towns where they reside. To me, the more pertinent question is whether or not the different seating arrangements occur when all of the players are traveling from T&T. Ideally, the players should be in the same section, but I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason for sometimes having them in different areas.
So I guess USA and Honduras (for example) does do the same thing then Tallman. Foreign base players in first class and the locally base in coach when they travelling abroad ? as both teams have a lot of foreign base players who meet up in route in Miami to where ever they are going. I dont think so.
I don't think its a big problem, but it would be nice if they were all treated fairly, wether it be coach or first class. A first class ticket from England to USA and then all men sit coach together if money is an issue which its always when it come to Jack Warner.
The TTFF seems as though they want everything for free as they get free pizza and kfc for the team. That is a poor diet for professionals.
No wonder we have a gap between locals vs foreign.
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Could this have anything to do with the fact that the foreign-based players were traveling a much longer distance than the local-based? After all, they were supposed to meet up in Miami, which means the UK-based had already flown at least 8 hours plus whatever traveling time is needed from the towns where they reside. To me, the more pertinent question is whether or not the different seating arrangements occur when all of the players are traveling from T&T. Ideally, the players should be in the same section, but I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason for sometimes having them in different areas.
That's exactly what Muhammed said happened. The UK-based players were booked on first class flights for the transatlantic trip and were therefore already in first class when they met up with the rest. He also said when they all travel from the same origin, they all fly in coach. Doh know if he lying or not, but that's the story.
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The only surprising thing to meis that people still being surprised by this type of behavior.
Wake up ppl, the TTFF is not a professionally run organization. They are rank amateurs
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Read it again Tallman, to and from Honduras.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
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Why alyuh fighting down the pizza, chicken and beers.
Ent that is carbs, protein and hydration ;D
pasta = pizza = same flour
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Read it again Tallman, to and from Honduras.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
Actually, I think they met in the US.
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Dat is wrong and wrong is wrong.It is a TEAM,ah would raise hell if some members travel first class and other didn't.I've manage national teams before in another sport and was a liaison officer for the football team and will NEVER agree to dat.
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My guess is Tallman is on the money with this one. The foreign based have long flights and are probably flying direct to CR (with stopover in Miami or NY). The local based will be on one flight into CR, which means you have two groups arriving at different times in CR.
With players scattered all over there is no way to get them on one flight & it makes no sense in this case to bring the foreign based to T&T first and then fly as a group to CR.
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
My guess is Tallman is on the money with this one. The foreign based have long flights and are probably flying direct to CR (with stopover in Miami or NY). The local based will be on one flight into CR, which means you have two groups arriving at different times in CR.
With players scattered all over there is no way to get them on one flight & it makes no sense in this case to bring the foreign based to T&T first and then fly as a group to CR.
Read it again Tallman and Observer, to and from Honduras. They not talking about de CRC game, but the last set of qualifiers when the T&T team assemble in T&T and then they all left for Honduras together.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
My guess is Tallman is on the money with this one. The foreign based have long flights and are probably flying direct to CR (with stopover in Miami or NY). The local based will be on one flight into CR, which means you have two groups arriving at different times in CR.
With players scattered all over there is no way to get them on one flight & it makes no sense in this case to bring the foreign based to T&T first and then fly as a group to CR.
Read it again Tallman and Observer, to and from Honduras. They not talking about de CRC game, but the last set of qualifiers when the T&T team assemble in T&T and then they all left for Honduras together.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
Ah Ok! You are quite right
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Read it again Tallman, to and from Honduras.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
'Warriors' mobbed on arrival in San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5956-warriors-mobbed-on-arrival-in-san-pedro-sula.html)
Samuel was among the quota of overseas-based players which met up with the rest of the T&T team in Miami en route to Honduras.
The local contingent will be met in Miami by eleven-overseas based pros called up by Latapy.
Soca Warrior off to San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5939-soca-warrior-off-to-san-pedro-sula.html)
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Read it again Tallman, to and from Honduras.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
'Warriors' mobbed on arrival in San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5956-warriors-mobbed-on-arrival-in-san-pedro-sula.html)
Samuel was among the quota of overseas-based players which met up with the rest of the T&T team in Miami en route to Honduras.
The local contingent will be met in Miami by eleven-overseas based pros called up by Latapy.
Soca Warrior off to San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5939-soca-warrior-off-to-san-pedro-sula.html)
Like I said...
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How about Match Fees, you feel all these players get the same match fees?
There is discrimination in all aspects of life.
Most of these foreign based are millionaires, They expect to travel first class some local based might be going on a plane for the first time.
this is apple an oranges.
It is from all aspects Top to bottom.
The foreign base does walk into session 2 days before game put limited effort in practice, play shit whole game and then come back and do the same thing starting next game.
Local based training 2 times a day and getting drop.
That is the way life is,
People discriminate and treat people differently based on who they are.
From Top to bottom with treat foreign based better so why not on the plane ride.
As far as KFC and marrios, I sure the foreign based request it because I for one, first thing when I reach back home must pass through a KFC.
Again this is the norm.
The Bible say to treat your visitors better than you will treat yourself.
When Joseph son came back from the wilderness he killed the fatted calf.
These men carrying the flag of TnT in competitive foreign leagues, putting we players on the map.
They deserve special treatment.
That is the norm from top to bottom.
Even men like me when I go back home and partying with US, Girl walking past the local men who they with them whole year just to come and lime with the Yankees
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How about Match Fees, you feel all these players get the same match fees?
There is discrimination in all aspects of life.
Most of these foreign based are millionaires, They expect to travel first class some local based might be going on a plane for the first time.
this is apple an oranges.
It is from all aspects Top to bottom.
The foreign base does walk into session 2 days before game put limited effort in practice, play shit whole game and then come back and do the same thing starting next game.
Local based training 2 times a day and getting drop.
That is the way life is,
People discriminate and treat people differently based on who they are.
From Top to bottom with treat foreign based better so why not on the plane ride.
As far as KFC and marrios, I sure the foreign based request it because I for one, first thing when I reach back home must pass through a KFC.
Again this is the norm.
The Bible say to treat your visitors better than you will treat yourself.
When Joseph son came back from the wilderness he killed the fatted calf.
These men carrying the flag of TnT in competitive foreign leagues, putting we players on the map.
They deserve special treatment.
That is the norm from top to bottom.
Even men like me when I go back home and partying with US, Girl walking past the local men who they with them whole year just to come and lime with the Yankees
In that case the locals should not play as hard and as good as the foreign based players. The locals should be able to do whatever and chill. Seeing that the foreign based players are millionaires and superstars and all.
TEAM a word recently introduced to the dictionary.
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We need a Rosa Parks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks) in T&T.
Imagine man riding first class getting drunk while some men riding coach eating nuts.
And de funny thing is, de locals does play better than de foreigners (Edwards apart)...
Imagine professional T&T players eating KFC and washing it down with a Stag and Carib. While USA eating pasta and grill chicken with gatorade.
No wonder after 60 minutes we players bun and tired !!!!
My HERO Ss. Rosa yes we need her like flour
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Read it again Tallman, to and from Honduras.
The team met in T&T and they all flew together to Honduras then returned to play USA after which they were given sausage pizza and kfc chicken wing with a hot carib.
'Warriors' mobbed on arrival in San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5956-warriors-mobbed-on-arrival-in-san-pedro-sula.html)
Samuel was among the quota of overseas-based players which met up with the rest of the T&T team in Miami en route to Honduras.
The local contingent will be met in Miami by eleven-overseas based pros called up by Latapy.
Soca Warrior off to San Pedro Sula (http://www.socawarriors.net/mens-senior-team/5939-soca-warrior-off-to-san-pedro-sula.html)
So who here willin 2 bet that Dennis lawerence was in 1st class and he playin for Jab. It eh have nutten 2 do wit long flight etc. Is just another glaring eg of d division that exist in that bunch of players dey eh no team.
On d way back y dey did not switch d local base so dat dey could experience 1st class.
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So who here willin 2 bet that Dennis lawerence was in 1st class and he playin for Jab. It eh have nutten 2 do wit long flight etc. Is just another glaring eg of d division that exist in that bunch of players dey eh no team.
On d way back y dey did not switch d local base so dat dey could experience 1st class.
Good catch...
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So who here willin 2 bet that Dennis lawerence was in 1st class and he playin for Jab. It eh have nutten 2 do wit long flight etc. Is just another glaring eg of d division that exist in that bunch of players dey eh no team.
On d way back y dey did not switch d local base so dat dey could experience 1st class.
Good catch...
I sayin dat since d story break. DL and MA sat next 2 each other as per usual.
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Welcome to the world of REAL SPORTS ladies and gentlemen.
One of the perks of seniority is that you get perks that rookies doh get.
All de foreign vs local base lyrics people spoutin on here, yuh tink when dey travelin by commercial aircraft, everybody on de LA Galaxy travelin in business class like Beckham? Allyuh realise dat most commercial aircraft (except fuh de much larger planes) have about 16 business class seats on average? Wha bout hotels? Everybody sharin a room? Yuh feel it doh have man who does get dey own suite?
I believe one of the stipulations of de contracts wit de foreign based players (and de vast majority of dem playin in England) is dat when dey returnin home for international games, the federation must provide them with first class/business class tickets. Because of the amount of distance they're traveling to return home to REPRESENT US, without any compensation to their employers I might add, every effort is made to ensure that their bodies don't feel the physical toll of long flights traveling through various time zones so that they can perform better FOR US on the field.
When T&T went to play Bahrain in Bahrain, Warner chartered a plane and ALL PLAYERS were able to fly first/business class. That's the exception rather than the norm.
Allyuh think Gayle, Sarwan and Chanderpaul does travel economy wit de ress a de WI team? Or Ponting & Michael Clarke wit de Aussie team?
Good idea. Let all de players travel in economy....regardless of who foreign or who local based and den ALL MAN JACK go be sufferin from jet lag SAME WAY etc. So what if de performances on de field suffer as a result? At least we could say we is a TEAM and everybody singin forkane KUMBAYA! ::)
Dis is yet a nex case of much ado bout lil bit. It have sports teams dat travel wit everybody in de same section? Why? because dey charter de damn plane!
Allyuh get REAL nah.
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Welcome to the world of REAL SPORTS ladies and gentlemen.
One of the perks of seniority is that you get perks that rookies doh get.
All de foreign vs local base lyrics people spoutin on here, yuh tink when dey travelin by commercial aircraft, everybody on de LA Galaxy travelin in business class like Beckham? Allyuh realise dat most commercial aircraft (except fuh de much larger planes) have about 16 business class seats on average? Wha bout hotels? Everybody sharin a room? Yuh feel it doh have man who does get dey own suite?
I believe one of the stipulations of de contracts wit de foreign based players (and de vast majority of dem playin in England) is dat when dey returnin home for international games, the federation must provide them with first class/business class tickets. Because of the amount of distance they're traveling to return home to REPRESENT US, without any compensation to their employers I might add, every effort is made to ensure that their bodies don't feel the physical toll of long flights traveling through various time zones so that they can perform better FOR US on the field.
When T&T went to play Bahrain in Bahrain, Warner chartered a plane and ALL PLAYERS were able to fly first/business class. That's the exception rather than the norm.
Allyuh think Gayle, Sarwan and Chanderpaul does travel economy wit de ress a de WI team? Or Ponting & Michael Clarke wit de Aussie team?
Good idea. Let all de players travel in economy....regardless of who foreign or who local based and den ALL MAN JACK go be sufferin from jet lag SAME WAY etc. So what if de performances on de field suffer as a result? At least we could say we is a TEAM and everybody singin forkane KUMBAYA! ::)
Dis is yet a nex case of much ado bout lil bit. It have sports teams dat travel wit everybody in de same section? Why? because dey charter de damn plane!
Allyuh get REAL nah.
Palos yuh argument will hold water if d TTFF was really seekin d boyz intrest. D retuurn leg was via Miami and a 6 hr wait ovah as reported by Andre yday. So Jloyd and KJ both their direct flights back so d 1st class treatment iz only 2 TNT not on dey return back 2 dey clubs. When d clubs upset bout dey return we does b hard on d club when dey upset bout happens.
All I have 2 say what would Beenie do?
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Palos yuh argument will hold water if d TTFF was really seekin d boyz intrest. D retuurn leg was via Miami and a 6 hr wait ovah as reported by Andre yday. So Jloyd and KJ both their direct flights back so d 1st class treatment iz only 2 TNT not on dey return back 2 dey clubs. When d clubs upset bout dey return we does b hard on d club when dey upset bout happens.
All I have 2 say what would Beenie do?
1 - Beenie not here anymore. Besides, are you suggestin that when Beenie was in charge, the team either flew ALL in coach or ALL first/business class includin Beenie himself? When they went Gold Cup, daz how it was? Panama? Costa Rica?
2 - We ALL know de TTFF inept at best. Dat doh mean when dey get it RIGHT dey should still receive flak. If de foreign based players DIDN'T fly first/business class yuh woulda hear a setta tantana on dis same board from dese same peeps bawlin bout how TTFF cheap etc.
3 - From what I heard on de program, de issue wit regards to KJ and J Lloyd wasn't a first/business class issue but rather one where they found out that there wasn't a direct flight booked back to England for them so they paid for their own ticket to get a direct flight. Now that was a error by the TTFF because both players had games to play and they should have booked a a direct return flight, but is not like dey was booked coach. At least, not from what I hear.
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Sad part is man arguing who traveling in first class and who in coach... and speaking about the coach...
Latas was flying in coach also... Fuentes and Maurice sat next to him if I can clearly remember!
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
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Palos yuh argument will hold water if d TTFF was really seekin d boyz intrest. D retuurn leg was via Miami and a 6 hr wait ovah as reported by Andre yday. So Jloyd and KJ both their direct flights back so d 1st class treatment iz only 2 TNT not on dey return back 2 dey clubs. When d clubs upset bout dey return we does b hard on d club when dey upset bout happens.
All I have 2 say what would Beenie do?
1 - Beenie not here anymore. Besides, are you suggestin that when Beenie was in charge, the team either flew ALL in coach or ALL first/business class includin Beenie himself? When they went Gold Cup, daz how it was? Panama? Costa Rica?
2 - We ALL know de TTFF inept at best. Dat doh mean when dey get it RIGHT dey should still receive flak. If de foreign based players DIDN'T fly first/business class yuh woulda hear a setta tantana on dis same board from dese same peeps bawlin bout how TTFF cheap etc.
3 - From what I heard on de program, de issue wit regards to KJ and J Lloyd wasn't a first/business class issue but rather one where they found out that there wasn't a direct flight booked back to England for them so they paid for their own ticket to get a direct flight. Now that was a error by the TTFF because both players had games to play and they should have booked a a direct return flight, but is not like dey was booked coach. At least, not from what I hear.
I know Beenie eh here if he waws SA 2010 might a b on d radar. I know dat d flight issue wit JLoyd /KJ was not 1st class. Meh pt is dat it is obvious dat all man jack should have been booked straight 2 England since jet lag iz ah issue y dey have 2 fly 1st class 2 get to Honduras. Yes d TTFF cheap oui put every body in first class put it in yuh budget dat yuh go b cussin Hunt for not payin and then get yuh money,. But then again it must b in d budget and man still flyin coach.
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
De only stink I know about is the people who stand up fuh de bonus vs de ones who back down. I never hear about forrein vs locals... Ah know sum locals doh like how Ince does get on....Plus Kelvin Jack vs Tallest...
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
De only stink I know about is the people who stand up fuh de bonus vs de ones who back down. I never hear about forrein vs locals... Ah know sum locals doh like how Ince does get on....Plus Kelvin Jack vs Tallest...
Kelvin Jack v Tallest ??? d only ting I could tink bout is dat he feel he Lawerence leadin d Berry boys aka d boys who eh sue and he encourage he partner Dog to drop out of d lawsuit.
Yuh eh convince meh tell meh where was DL sittin? Wit d locals or d foreigners?
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
Hmmm...was Dennis Lawrence even in the team for that Honduras match? Did he even go to Honduras?
Even if he did go, isn't Dennis Lawrence a senior player on the team? More senior than ANY other local based player?
Did he not take over the captain's armband after Yorke was substituted against El Salvador? Was he not subsequently appointed as CAPTAIN of the national team?
Nah...he no longer foreign based so he should jes sit in coach ent?
Look like de only people perpetuatin dis foreign vs local ting is right here on dis board.
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
Hmmm...was Dennis Lawrence even in the team for that Honduras match? Did he even go to Honduras?
Even if he did go, isn't Dennis Lawrence a senior player on the team? More senior than ANY other local based player?
Did he not take over the captain's armband after Yorke was substituted against El Salvador? Was he not subsequently appointed as CAPTAIN of the national team?
Nah...he no longer foreign based so he should jes sit in coach ent?
Your argument is seniority there argument is length of flight. As I say all man jack ride together if it is strap 2 d wing all ah we strap 2 d wing. U would surprise how these little tings goes a long way.
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Latas was flying in coach also...
That's not what I heard.
But it really doh matter. Captain and Management (includin coach) does normally get dese perks in any sportin organisation.
My question is does it really matter... or is it like a Beckham/Donovan row...!
Bleeder looked happy he skin he teeth whole trip...
D man passport bein stamp plus Bleeder ever eh skinin he teeth. If yuh could tell meh dat DL was in coach then I could say it eh so bad. But iz ting playin off local v foreign.
Hmmm...was Dennis Lawrence even in the team for that Honduras match? Did he even go to Honduras?
Even if he did go, isn't Dennis Lawrence a senior player on the team? More senior than ANY other local based player?
Did he not take over the captain's armband after Yorke was substituted against El Salvador? Was he not subsequently appointed as CAPTAIN of the national team?
Nah...he no longer foreign based so he should jes sit in coach ent?
Your argument is seniority there argument is length of flight. As I say all man jack ride together if it is strap 2 d wing all ah we strap 2 d wing. U would surprise how these little tings goes a long way.
And I'm asking you.....did all man jack "ride together" AT ALL TIMES during the time Beenie was coach? Including Beenie.
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3 yrs ago ah get mih contract change to business class and sit next to Shaka all the way from Heathrow, he say all the pros and their clubs demanded from TTFF that they get business class to fly to and fro especially on the long haul.
Last year I was fortunate to sit next to Ince.
I guess thelocal players and their coachs/clubs need to say enuff is enuff and insist on the same treatment , in fact this goes back toFPATT and contracts for the players etc.
This is another case of TTFF not realising who is important.
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On d flight 2 bahrain Beenie was in 1st class everybody else d key everybody else was in buziness class.
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3 yrs ago ah get mih contract change to business class and sit next to Shaka all the way from Heathrow, he say all the pros and their clubs demanded from TTFF that they get business class to fly to and fro especially on the long haul.
Last year I was fortunate to sit next to Ince.
I guess thelocal players and their coachs/clubs need to say enuff is enuff and insist on the same treatment , in fact this goes back toFPATT and contracts for the players etc.
This is another case of TTFF not realising who is important.
I guess dey need 2 specify now direct flight back 2 d UK.
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3 yrs ago ah get mih contract change to business class and sit next to Shaka all the way from Heathrow, he say all the pros and their clubs demanded from TTFF that they get business class to fly to and fro especially on the long haul.
Last year I was fortunate to sit next to Ince.
I guess thelocal players and their coachs/clubs need to say enuff is enuff and insist on the same treatment , in fact this goes back toFPATT and contracts for the players etc.
This is another case of TTFF not realising who is important.
Where do you stop?
How about everybody insistin dat dey have dey own suite at de hotel?
There is a very good case for the foreign based players, most of whom ply their trade in England, flying first/business class when they return to T&T (a 9 hour flight at least) on international duty.
1 - The jet lag they experience is far more than what any local based player would typically experience, except when going to play in Saudi Arabia or Africa etc.
2 - I believe that their clubs also have a great say in that stipulation existing. A club is more inclined to be amenable to THEIR PLAYER returning for international duty, regardless of FIFA mandates, if they're confident that the player will return to them in as good a physical condition as possible to resume their PRIMARY MODE OF EMPLOYMENT.
3 - TTFF done financially low on resources as it is. You pick a 22 man squad for an away game. Included are normally at least 5 officials. What happens if the airline you travel with doesn't have enough first/business class seats to accomodate your entire team? Book 2 separate flights? Some arrive this date and the others arrive another?
4 - The obvious solution is to charter a plane. Then EVERYBODY happy. Except. Who sponsorin dat charter? Jack? If your answer is Jack....then peeps cannot call for him to go and leave de football alone. Think charterin a plane cheap?
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On d flight 2 bahrain Beenie was in 1st class everybody else d key everybody else was in buziness class.
So when dey went USA fuh de Gold Cup....did EVERYBODY fly business class or EVERYBODY fly coach?
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On d flight 2 bahrain Beenie was in 1st class everybody else d key everybody else was in buziness class.
So when dey went USA fuh de Gold Cup....did EVERYBODY fly business class or EVERYBODY fly coach?
I suspect dat evrybody ride 2gether if dey all have 2 eat together.
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On d flight 2 bahrain Beenie was in 1st class everybody else d key everybody else was in buziness class.
So when dey went USA fuh de Gold Cup....did EVERYBODY fly business class or EVERYBODY fly coach?
I suspect dat evrybody ride 2gether if dey all have 2 eat together.
U SUSPECTIN now?
LOL!
Yuh might be surprised to know where Beenie does sit whenever he flyin as opposed to de ress a de team.
There are scenarios where that all for one and one for all philosophy can be REALISTICALLY applied. International travel for international & professional sports teams flying commercially is typically not one of them.
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3 yrs ago ah get mih contract change to business class and sit next to Shaka all the way from Heathrow, he say all the pros and their clubs demanded from TTFF that they get business class to fly to and fro especially on the long haul.
Last year I was fortunate to sit next to Ince.
I guess thelocal players and their coachs/clubs need to say enuff is enuff and insist on the same treatment , in fact this goes back toFPATT and contracts for the players etc.
This is another case of TTFF not realising who is important.
Where do you stop?
How about everybody insistin dat dey have dey own suite at de hotel?
There is a very good case for the foreign based players, most of whom ply their trade in England, flying first/business class when they return to T&T (a 9 hour flight at least) on international duty.
1 - The jet lag they experience is far more than what any local based player would typically experience, except when going to play in Saudi Arabia or Africa etc.
2 - I believe that their clubs also have a great say in that stipulation existing. A club is more inclined to be amenable to THEIR PLAYER returning for international duty, regardless of FIFA mandates, if they're confident that the player will return to them in as good a physical condition as possible to resume their PRIMARY MODE OF EMPLOYMENT.
3 - TTFF done financially low on resources as it is. You pick a 22 man squad for an away game. Included are normally at least 5 officials. What happens if the airline you travel with doesn't have enough first/business class seats to accomodate your entire team? Book 2 separate flights? Some arrive this date and the others arrive another?
4 - The obvious solution is to charter a plane. Then EVERYBODY happy. Except. Who sponsorin dat charter? Jack? If your answer is Jack....then peeps cannot call for him to go and leave de football alone. Think charterin a plane cheap?
All valid questions, however my point was that if there is an issue with the present arrangements then it is the players through FPATT and or their clubs to raise it like the overseas clubs and players did, my dig about TTFF not realising who is important was based on the assumption by somebody here that the technical staff all travel above coach.
Explaining the situation to all as you have done may suffice if that is the case.
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:o what di arse. is this???
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On d flight 2 bahrain Beenie was in 1st class everybody else d key everybody else was in buziness class.
So when dey went USA fuh de Gold Cup....did EVERYBODY fly business class or EVERYBODY fly coach?
I suspect dat evrybody ride 2gether if dey all have 2 eat together.
U SUSPECTIN now?
LOL!
Yuh might be surprised to know where Beenie does sit whenever he flyin as opposed to de ress a de team.
There are scenarios where that all for one and one for all philosophy can be REALISTICALLY applied. International travel for international & professional sports teams flying commercially is typically not one of them.
Since I was not there I have 2 suspect but where Beenie/Latapy sit eh really concern me but u c d 22 man squad is meh concern. I soundin like Vincent Twice from SS d little tings does make a big difference.
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Could this have anything to do with the fact that the foreign-based players were traveling a much longer distance than the local-based? After all, they were supposed to meet up in Miami, which means the UK-based had already flown at least 8 hours plus whatever traveling time is needed from the towns where they reside. To me, the more pertinent question is whether or not the different seating arrangements occur when all of the players are traveling from T&T. Ideally, the players should be in the same section, but I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason for sometimes having them in different areas.
Ahh boy Tallman, I doh care other men might say, you is one ah de smarter fellahs here;)
Yuh see when ah read bout dat first-class versus coach thing, ah coulda get blasted vex, but ah quickly grab meh ever present critical-thinking cap, pull it on and say, wait maybe we eh get all de facts....what will be absolutley ridiculous is if like you say, dat dey separate dem like dat when dey travelling fron Trinidad.
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The source said, “I was the one that was stunned by the treatment of the players. No wonder there is a division,” added the source, confirming statements made by a few un-named players, that the foreign-based players in the Trinidad and Tobago team travelled in First Class, to-and- from the September 5 qualifier in Honduras, while the local-based members were seated in coach (among the regular passengers).
Could this have anything to do with the fact that the foreign-based players were traveling a much longer distance than the local-based? After all, they were supposed to meet up in Miami, which means the UK-based had already flown at least 8 hours plus whatever traveling time is needed from the towns where they reside. To me, the more pertinent question is whether or not the different seating arrangements occur when all of the players are traveling from T&T. Ideally, the players should be in the same section, but I'm just wondering if there is a legitimate reason for sometimes having them in different areas.
2 seperate d sheep from d goat
Ahh boy Tallman, I doh care other men might say, you is one ah de smarter fellahs here;)
Yuh see when ah read bout dat first-class versus coach thing, ah coulda get blasted vex, but ah quickly grab meh ever present critical-thinking cap, pull it on and say, wait maybe we eh get all de facts....what will be absolutley ridiculous is if like you say, dat dey separate dem like dat when dey travelling fron Trinidad.