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Carlos tipping England to host World Cup
The Lowestoft Journal
CARLOS Edwards is tipping England to win the race to stage the World Cup in 2018.
Ipswich Town's flying winger is one of the ambassadors for the England bid, a role he is relishing, alongside the likes of David Beckham and John Terry.
Edwards has earned 78 caps for Trinidad & Tobago, and was made captain for their last two World Cup qualifiers.
His vast international experience helped him to land this role as one of England's 50 ambassadors.
Speaking yesterday, £1.35m man Edwards revealed: “I was first approached about the role (of ambassador) while I was at Sunderland.
“I was shocked and surprised, but I didn't take long to think about it. I saw it as an honour to be an ambassador, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
“I suppose they saw me as someone who has travelled all over the world, playing football far and wide. That's why they have enrolled me.
“There are 50 of us on the list, and there are some very big names. I'm alongside the likes of John Terry, David Beckham and Wayne Rooney, while me and Kenwyne Jones are the two representatives from Trinidad & Tobago.
“It will be good to work alongside such people.
“I have been over in this country for the last 11 years, so I consider myself to be partially English.
“But it didn't cross my mind that I would be asked to be involved with England's World Cup bid for 2018. Now I just want to do my best to bring the competition to England,” added Edwards.
The ex-Wrexham, Luton and Sunderland winger is in no doubt that England have a great chance of landing the 2018 World Cup. It is being staged out of Europe for the next two competitions, in South Africa next year and then Brazil in 2014.
“Should England host the World Cup? I say, why not? The stadia and the supporters are here. You can't fault any of that,” continued Edwards.
“And all the crowd troubles of the 1980s are a thing of the past. Things have changed drastically, and it's time to move forward and not live in the past.
“The Premier League is the No. 1 League in the world, and that hopefully will give us the nudge in getting the vote for 2018.
“I'll be trying my best to get the signature of Mr (Jack) Warner (FIFA Vice-President). I want to get his vote, as someone from his native country,” added Edwards.
The 31-year-old, who signed for Town at the end of August, played for Trinidad & Tobago in the 2006 World Cup finals in Germany. They played group matches against Sweden, England and Paraguay.
Edwards confirmed: “The 2006 World Cup was a great experience for me.
“We didn't win a game, but it was the first time that Trindad & Tobago had been in the finals, and we were the smallest country ever to make it that far.”
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World Cup 2018: Gordon Brown meets Fifa's Jack Warner to back England's bid
Guardian.co.uk
Gordon Brown intervened today to shore up England's troubled bid for the 2018 World Cup when he met a veteran Fifa vice-president who has dismissed England's chances.
The prime minister took time out from the Commonwealth summit to meet the Trinidadian Jack Warner who recently criticised the England bid leadership as "lightweight".
Downing Street described the 20-minute meeting with Warner, who influences five of Fifa's 24 votes, as positive.
Warner, who is close to the Fifa president Sepp Blatter, said England had some of the world's best facilities and would be ready to host the World Cup tomorrow.
A No 10 spokesman said: "The meeting between Gordon Brown and Jack Warner was very positive. Mr Warner was complimentary about England's sporting infrastructure and said he recognised that England would be ready to host the World Cup tomorrow. If it were held tomorrow he recognised England would be ready."
Brown told Warner of the nation's passion for football and spoke of the government's absolute support for the bid. He pointed out the England will not have hosted the World Cup for 52 years by 2018. Ministers have agreed to underpin the bid with a guarantee of £350m.
The No 10 spokesman added: "The prime minister re-emphasised his personal passion and the nation's passion for football and sport more generally and underlined the government's commitment to sport, saying that sports in schools would be going from two hours a week at present to five hours a week in 2012."
Brown requested the meeting with Warner, one of the most influential figures in world football, who is head of Concacaf, the body covering North and Central America and the Caribbean. They joked at the beginning of the meeting and Brown spoke of his friendship with Marvin Andrews, a Trinidad national player, who played for his team, Raith Rovers.
The meeting was important because Warner, a member of Fifa's executive committee since 1983, delivered a major blow to the England bid in October when he said the bid team were unknown in international football circles. Warning that England was falling behind the European rival bids of Spain and Portugal and Russia, he told the Leaders in Football conference: "My [Fifa] colleagues are saying very quietly that the guys who are coming to them are lightweight. This is the type of thing that loses you a bid.
"England's attributes surpass any other country. I would have been more aggressive in the market place. If I had the Premier League, Beckham and the Queen, there would have been many things I could have done for the people who are voting. I would have made them next-door neighbours to make them the first name on people's lips."
Warner also damaged England's bid when he announced that his wife had returned a £230 Mulberry handbag given by the 2018 bid team when they attended the Leaders in Football conference in October. In a letter to Lord Triesman, the leader of the 2018 bid, Warner spoke of his fury at media criticism of the gift. "I have faced and continue to face all kinds of indignities from all manner of persons, but when these insults touch my wife, it represents an all time low," he wrote.
Downing Street said the England bid leadership was not discussed during today's meeting which took place at the British high commission in Port of Spain. A No 10 source said: "England has in place the architecture of a potentially successful bid."
No 10 was encouraged by the meeting. But Warner's positive comments about England's sporting infrastructure are consistent with what he has been saying publicly. His criticisms relate to the bid team which was not discussed.
The bid team has been plagued by problems. Sir Dave Richards, the chairman of the Premier League, resigned as the bid's vice-chairman for international relations, this week after a restructuring of its structure. His resignation was seen as a vote of no confidence by the league in Lord Triesman, the chairman of the Football Association, who is leading the 2018 bid.
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Gordon boi good luck d fella does speak wit a falk tongue a tie tongue falk tongue.
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As the Jamaicans would say. Yuh big inno !
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WORLD CUP BID
Jack Warner: "It's England's time"
Soccernet.com
November 28, 2009
FIFA powerbroker Jack Warner has been convinced that "this is England's time'' for the World Cup after meeting Prime Minister Gordon Brown.
Jack Warner has considerable influence at FIFA
The Prime Minister met Warner in Trinidad yesterday where Brown has travelled for the Commonwealth heads of government meeting.
Afterwards, Warner, who only last month criticised the England 2018 World Cup bid as "lightweight'' and returned a gift of a designer handbag in fury, completed a virtual about turn in his view of the bid.
Warner, the president of the CONCACAF federation who controls three of the 24 FIFA executive committee votes, said"It was an exceptionally good meeting - it was the best case I have heard for a long time about the World Cup being in England.
"I was very impressed by his humility, his sincerity, his knowledge of the game, and most importantly he didn't feel England had any divine right. He felt that England's time had come - a point to which I subscribed. He said, and I agreed with him, that England has the best infrastructure to stage the tournament and that after a 52-year gap this is England's time.''
Warner's comments last month sparked a crisis among England's bid leadership with internal arguments culminating in a reshuffle of the board. There was further turmoil earlier this week when Premier League chairman Sir Dave Richards resigned his position on the board. Warner added: "I was saddened when I heard that because I thought he was a tremendous asset that the FA needed.''
The FIFA vice-president said his remarks last month had intended to help bid leaders see where they were going wrong. If he had any further concerns about the campaign he would raise them directly with Downing Street, he said.
"The Prime Minister was able to take some the comments I made and promised to look into them. He was not thin-skinned at all. I was attempting to be constructive and I am sorry if people thought I was being destructive. But I was looking at the bigger picture and the bid seems to have new energy and impetus.
"I met the Prime Minister today and next week I will meet David Beckham in Cape Town. These are not for my ego, but they are the assets that the bid should be using and I am happy to see that they are being used.''
However, Australia's Prime Minister Kevin Rudd also took time out from the Commonwealth summit in Trinidad and Tobago to push his own country's bid to host soccer's World Cup.
"We understand the Prime Minister and Mr Warner discussed the value of sport in community development, and the growing popularity of football in Australia," Football Federation of Australia (FFA) chief executive Ben Buckley said in a statement.
"The Prime Minister also referred to the growth of the game in the Asian region and how an Australian-hosted FIFA World Cup would help promote and consolidate the game in Asia."
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Warner performs U-turn to back England’s WCup bid
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Buzz up! 1 PrintLONDON (AP)—FIFA vice president Jack Warner has apologized for denigrating England’s bid to host the World Cup in 2018 and says British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has convinced him to back the campaign.
Warner, who is a powerful member of the 24-man FIFA executive committee which will decide the 2018 and 2022 hosts in December 2010, had dismissed England’s bid as lightweight during a visit to London last month.
But now Warner, who is also president of CONCACAF, says “it is England’s time” having not hosted the tournament since 1966.
Warner told Saturday’s editions of the Daily Telegraph newspaper after meeting with Brown in Trinidad that he made “the most convincing case I have heard so far … I am sorry if people thought I was being destructive.”
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26. Posted by Web Fri Nov 27 12:27am EST Report Abuse
I am English but live in the US. Id love it to go to UK but we got the Olympics I agree with the poster who said Holland should get it. They have been a perennial power and I think its only fair they get a wack at it.
My fear about giving it to the US is weather the game will still be going over here then. Sports come and go here pretty quickly and although its doing reasnably now, will the MLS even exist in 2018-22?
Its a valid argument
25. Posted by edog Thu Nov 26 8:44pm EST Report Abuse
I honestly don't see how the World Cup doesn;t go to England in 2018 and the US in 2022. Makes too much sense and both would be incredibly succesful. Going to Italy-Spain in WC '94 was amazing. Hoping to get to see the US in a WC game on or soil someday.
And gang, CK is a sad indivudual who regularly posts on these boards about how much he hates soccer to get a rise out of people. Think about how dull CKs life must be if he regularly visits stories about a sport he hates to post disparaging comments about it. I seem to remember CK saying he does it for revenge against overexuberant soccer fans who do the same thing to other sports. Let him have his fun - he doesn't speak for all Americans. MLS may not yet be an incredible success in every market or one of the best leagues in the world, and the US national team still has a ways to go before it is a legit world power, but soccer has certainly found a large niche and there are legions of huge soccer fans in this country. That is a demonstrable fact, so the sooner we drop the inferiority complex and ignore the Jim Rome's of the world, the better.
24. Posted by Joe Heatley Thu Nov 26 8:26pm EST Report Abuse
hahahahahahahahahahaha to the comment below me
PS:i am canadian too
23. Posted by Tron Thu Nov 26 5:44pm EST Report Abuse
Canada World Cup Champs 2018. Believe that!
22. Posted by tg3acep Thu Nov 26 3:27pm EST Report Abuse
CK- you are the reason the rest of the world thinks Americans are all arrogant pricks. "We Americans" ? Speak for yourself jackass, I'm American and would love for the world cup to be in the states. Soccer/Football has gained more popularity each year, and the fans are becoming more passionate. Also you should take note that every article you have commented on disrespecting soccer, not once has anyone agreed with you. The more you hate it, the more we love. So keep it up!
21. Posted by cc Thu Nov 26 3:23pm EST Report Abuse
This is going to be a great world cup..... i hope the U.S. national team doesnt choke again like it did againts Brazil....... they will forever be knowned now as the biggest chokers in Confederations Cup finals hahahahah............ they are so weak, wish the U.S had a better national team =( these guys suck ass
20. Posted by frederic Sat Oct 10 10:18am EDT Report Abuse
Football/Soccer is the best sporting event around and eventually will be embraced by Americans once the hating morons disappear!
19. Posted by tt6811 Fri Oct 9 7:05am EDT Report Abuse
EPL is the best league. La Liga or whatever is not interesting because in Spain on two team (R.Madrid and Barcelona) are great and champions while in Germany and Italy threre are also 2 team only while in England u can see the competition very strong and the top six or eight got a chance. Accept the facts and stop arguing. Enjoy the game, the players and the acceptance in the world of football.
18. Posted by TA Thu Oct 8 8:54pm EDT Report Abuse
let us hope for a Ukraine victory on saturday . they almost beat England when they played them at Wembly . La liga is the best leaque headed by the Champions leaque champions Barcelona.
17. Posted by Samson Thu Oct 8 5:32pm EDT Report Abuse
ecko0572 ....WTF are you talking about I attended the WC games in 94, and u beaners only showed up when Mexico was playing, the Final was played in Pasadena and the whole crowd was Brazilian and Italian with a few Americans, wondering whats going on? dont try to take credit for attendance records and the only reason Mexicans show up at games against the US is because the tickets are really really and I mean really cheap, sometimes they go for as little as 8 $$, I doubt Mexicans can afford tickets to WC games in any country.
16. Posted by will c Thu Oct 8 3:05pm EDT Report Abuse
CK,
Who's we?
15. Posted by will c Thu Oct 8 3:02pm EDT Report Abuse
What an ignorant statement to make. Does he actually believe that the English are more passionate about soccer than the Germans or the Brazilians or the Italians? Clueless in LA.
14. Posted by ecko0572 Thu Oct 8 2:50pm EDT Report Abuse
USA 94 broke attendance records because of Mexicans. Have you seen the crowd that shows up when USA plays Mexico on US soil? It looks like a home game for Mexico!
13. Posted by Dan Thu Oct 8 2:31pm EDT Report Abuse
Even if MLS is still staggering along as a minor league, there's no doubt that World Cup '94 paved the way for its existence. It still has the attendance record despite being a 24-team tournament. And there are plenty of soccer fans in this country who will pay to watch top-caliber competition - there was huge turnout over the summer to watch teams like Barca and Man United. The national team's lack of consistency is irrelevant.
12. Posted by Brian W Thu Oct 8 9:03am EDT Report Abuse
Until the USA can become a perrenial World power in Soccer we shouldn't be trying to bring the World Cup back to the US! The last time we hosted the World Cup, it didn't do much to promote the sport here in the US! I think it is because the US team has not reached the level of play that the rest of the World enjoys and it is hard to back a loser going in!!
11. Posted by COPAmundial Thu Oct 8 6:52am EDT Report Abuse
USA will get the World Cup. FIFA will kiss our *ss for the IOC ignorance.
-IOC will lose 225 million dollars in TV rights by giving the games to Rio instead of Chicago
-IOC may lose 65% of major sponsors from the USA.
Congrats with the blind voting dumb *ucks, you lost at least 500million. IOC knew right away they *ucked up.
FIFA will give USA the World Cup....USA should return the favor and tell them to *uck off.
10. Posted by KavinP Thu Oct 8 6:42am EDT Report Abuse
belgium-netherlands could be a nice location for a world cup. plus netherlands is one of the all-time great teams of the sport, and have never hosted a world cup. otherwise, i think the bids by australia and qatar are also interesting... they both have the infrastructure and money for the stadia. the 1994 cup went smoothly, so the U.S. would be a good choice too... but they might not vote for it only because 1994 was only 15 years ago. i bet they go for australia.
yeah i think one world cup in europe and one outside sounds accurate. so it may come down to belgium/netherlands vs. england vs. spain/portugal, and australia vs. u.s.a. vs qatar.
9. Posted by StarMan Thu Oct 8 6:29am EDT Report Abuse
Hosting a World Cup would be a nightmare for Americans? I suppossed you feel the same about the Olympics... from a perspective where it would stimulate the economy of the cities that host the event you'd be absolutely dead wrong.
Most Americans that I know would rather watch a worldly/international event like the World Cup in lieu of something like a national final (i.e. baseball's World Series - clearly this name should be changed).
8. Posted by davide Wed Oct 7 10:04pm EDT Report Abuse
England should host the 2018 World Cup, Everything is in place now. Beside the last time the world cup was played in England was in 1966, its about time it went back to the home of football.
7. Posted by C K Wed Oct 7 9:37pm EDT Report Abuse
Hosting a World Cup here would be the worst nightmare for Americans. We hate this sport and the last thing that we want to see in person and on TV is soccer.
6. Posted by ecko0572 Wed Oct 7 7:16pm EDT Report Abuse
They no longer rotate continents. So a back to back World cup in Europe is possible.
5. Posted by The Canuck Fan Wed Oct 7 7:03pm EDT Report Abuse
The only persuasive figure FIFA cares about now that they've given AFrica and South America the WC is the Pound/Euro/Yuan.
mORE MORE MORE!
how do they like it? how do they like it?
They certainly can do two Euro WCs in a row, but they likely won't.
4. Posted by kid sensation Wed Oct 7 6:23pm EDT Report Abuse
ecko,europe can't host the WC twice in a row. 2022 will most likely go to the U.S.
3. Posted by ecko0572 Wed Oct 7 5:08pm EDT Report Abuse
Pele Obama
England 2018, Spain 2022.
2. Posted by Erick Wed Oct 7 1:28pm EDT Report Abuse
Yeah very true. From the way some of the news was covered to, most citizens of Chicago didn't want to have to Olympics there. That's should be enough for the committee to not want to host the Olympics there.
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Just a suggestion,why don't the mods join the two World Cup 2018 topics together,is there some reason for keeping them apart?i think they relate to the same topic/person.
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Warner: Triesman exit helps England bid.
Morning Star.
England's chances of hosting the 2018 World Cup may have actually been improved by Lord Triesman's enforced departure, influential FIFA vice-president Jack Warner has claimed.
Warner, who also revealed that he is to take a cabinet position in the new government of Trinidad and Tobago, said the fact that Triesman's successor Geoff Thompson is one of the 24-man FIFA executive committee who will vote on the 2018 hosts should aid the bid.
Warner said: "Geoff Thompson is a member of the FIFA executive committee, so that should help England's bid.
"He is close to the people who are going to be voting, so that has got to be a good thing.
"The FA dealt with everything (the Triesman scandal) promptly, so that has also been a good thing."
Warner is likely to be confirmed as Trinidad and Tobago's new foreign minister or trade minister later this week.
He added: "I have agreed that I will take a post in the cabinet, but I have explained to the prime minister about my other commitments.
"It will not affect my work with Fifq or Concacaf."
Warner was instrumental in Thompson being appointed FIFA British vice-president after the saga involving Scotland's John McBeth, who had claimed that African and Caribbean nations often "grabbed what they can."
The Concacaf federation have three of the 24 votes and usually vote en bloc, so Warner's influence is key to the bid.
The other advantage to England following the shake-up is that Fifa president Sepp Blatter was no fan of Triesman.
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Fair enough..foreign minister to promote TNT but with how much Moneysssssssssss
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So wait, ah know is ah ole post, so anybody did find out wha really was th colour of the envelope Brown did pass ? Or yuh really feel they ketch Jack in ah good mood. :devil:
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England 2018 bid backed by Paul the octopus
by Soccernet
The England 2018 World Cup bid has been boosted by the backing of Paul the "psychic" octopus.
Paul the Octopus tips Spain
Paul the Octopus correctly picked Spain.
During the World Cup in South Africa, the German based cephalopod became a global celebrity for correctly predicting all seven of Germany's games - including the 4-1 demolition of England for a place in the quarter-finals - as well as the Spain-Netherlands final.
Paul chose mussels from jars bearing the flags of opponents to make his predictions and is now on the road to stardom with merchandise deals and a film in the offing.
The Weymouth-born octopus, who resides at the Oberhausen Sea Life Aquarium in Germany, may have retired from the clairvoyant game, but has put his tentacles behind England in the bidding for the 2018 World Cup.
Nicola Hamilton, manager at Weymouth Sea Life Centre, told the BBC: "Paul has spent the last two years of his life in Germany, but he is definitely a proud Englishman and is therefore delighted to put his support behind England 2018.
"We have had a number of football approaches from around the world but Paul was only ever going to choose his homeland.
"With his predicting days behind him Paul is now concentrating on a number of new projects and the England 2018 campaign is something we are sure he feels passionately about. Becoming an official ambassador for the bid is an honour for Paul and everyone here."
England players David Beckham and Rio Ferdinand, Formula 1 star Lewis Hamilton, and musicians Noel Gallagher and Sting have all been recruited to back the bid, along with former Liverpool and England midfielder John Barnes.
"After his success during South Africa 2010, Paul is undoubtedly one of the biggest names in football,'' Barnes said. "I predict that huge numbers of people will follow Paul's lead and back the bid. Since our launch last year, more than a million football fans have officially shown their support, including some of England's most famous names.
"With the decision date fast approaching it's now more important than ever to get behind England 2018."
Russia, the United States, Australia, and joint bids from Spain and Portugal, and Holland and Belgium are all battling to host the tournament with the winners for both 2018 and 2022 announced on December 2.
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Jennings leading Panorama Fifa sting.
UK Guardian
England FA scared Jennings and company might derail their W/Cup bid... They know Fifa corrupt. They just don't care once they can still get by within a corrupt framework...
Panorama approaches Fifa with investigation findings
BBC Panorama has already contacted Fifa and individual members about the findings of its investigations into World Cup bidding, it emerged today.
News of the latest development will cause further worry to England 2018 World Cup bid leaders that their campaign is being damaged by Britain-based media investigations.
Two Fifa executive committee members have already been suspended following a Sunday Times undercover sting, and the fact that others have now been asked by Panorama for responses to its investigation is likely to infuriate world football's leading figures.
A Panorama spokesman said: "We have contacted Fifa and individual executive committee members regarding our findings. We are currently awaiting a response."
The former sports minister Richard Caborn said the BBC should send all the evidence Panorama has uncovered to Fifa's independent ethics committee immediately – rather than deliver shock revelations when the programme is screened just three days before the vote for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments.
The England 2018 chief executive, Andy Anson, visited the BBC director general Mark Thompson this week to express fears that the Panorama investigation could fatally harm the bid.
Caborn, formerly Gordon Brown's World Cup bid ambassador, said: "If Panorama or any other media have any evidence of any wrongdoing they should immediately refer that to the Fifa ethics committee so that it can be examined by the independent panel.
"Whilst I agree that newspapers and television have every right to investigate they should not be used in a selfish way for circulation or viewing figures and damaging the England bid.
"The importance of the England bid for ordinary fans is considerable and therefore any evidence should be referred to the new ethics committee immediately."
Bid leaders already admit that the recent Sunday Times investigation into Fifa members has caused "significant damage" to their campaign for 2018 and are worried that the Panorama programme will intensify the backlash against them.
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David Cameron invites Jack Warner to lunch ahead of 2018 World Cup vote
guardian.co.uk
The prime minister David Cameron has telephoned Jack Warner, a Fifa vice-president, to invite him to lunch in an effort to boost England's hopes of hosting the 2018 World Cup.
Warner's support is perhaps the most crucial for England to capture and that is reflected by Cameron's invitation to lunch ahead of the vote in Zurich on 2 December.
Warner is president of the Concacaf confederation and could deliver three votes to England, and is also a government minister in Trinidad.
He told the Trinidad newspaper Newsday: "He called to ask me for my support for the English bid and he asked me to join him for lunch next week, Thursday, and he hoped [David] Beckham was a good ambassador and said that if there was anything he can do for Trinidad and Tobago he will be prepared to do so."
Warner said he had still to decide which way he would vote but appeared to write off the chances of Spain/Portugal and Holland/Belgium, telling Cameron that Russia are England's main rivals.
"If he can overcome the Russian bid, which I think is gaining momentum, he doesn't have a problem," added Warner. "I don't think he has to worry about the other countries too much."
Warner said he was certain England 2018 would present a compelling argument to Fifa's executive committee.
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He invite him 2 lunch 2 ask him fish or chicken 4 d Royal Wedding. As we sure he on d list.
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Cue Dinho!!!..... :devil: :devil:
On a related note, the day FIFA reeeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyyy investigates Jack and pelt him out like the nasty, stinking dutty tief that he is den I goh take dem seriously. Who dey discipline again?? A fella from Nigeria and one from Tahiti.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Two no name fellas.....steups!!!
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Squeeze dem balls Jack!!
We want balcony tickets for Kamla, Anil, Dooks and about 5 extra for Prince William wedding, we want another England friendly (make sure Capello call back Becks eh) and we want as much free money as allyuh could put in we coffers a fiscal investment initiative identifying Trinidad and Tobago as a strategic partner in the region.
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Cue Dinho!!!..... :devil: :devil:
Squeeze dem balls Jack!!
We want balcony tickets for Kamla, Anil, Dooks and about 5 extra for Prince William wedding, we want another England friendly (make sure Capello call back Becks eh) and we want as much free money as allyuh could put in we coffers a fiscal investment initiative identifying Trinidad and Tobago as a strategic partner in the region.
Classic!!! This forum sweet too bad
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we want as much free money as allyuh could put in we coffers a fiscal investment initiative identifying Trinidad and Tobago as a strategic partner in the region.
:rotfl:
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Fifa vice-president Warner attacks BBC investigation
BBC
Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has made a scathing attack on the BBC Panorama programme examining the bidding to stage the 2018 World Cup.
The documentary will air three days before the 2 December vote, and Warner said: it was "deliberately designed to negatively impact" on England's bid.
Warner, whose vote is seen as crucial to England's hopes, claims the programme is "a personal vendetta".
The BBC said the November 29 programme "will be in the public interest".
Warner, a government minister in Trinidad, is president of the Concacaf federation covering North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football, and could deliver three of the 22 FIFA executive members' votes to England.
He has been invited to lunch in Zurich by Prime Minister David Cameron ahead of the vote, and David Beckham met him while opening a coaching clinic in Trinidad in September.
Warner, who said last week that he had still to decide which way he would vote, spoke of his dissatisfaction with the Panorama investigation in a vehement e-mail to Press Association Sport.
"I am sure it's a personal vendetta. But it is sooooooooooo stupid... for it can have no effect on me personally or on anyone else in Fifa for that matter."
Warner added that there was no new material in the programme and that he was not losing sleep over it.
BBC Panorama responded by saying: "Panorama has a reputation for strong, independent and probing investigative journalism. The findings of the Panorama investigation into Fifa will be in the public interest."
Last week England 2018 leaders branded the BBC "unpatriotic" for screening the investigation so close to the vote, fearing it will lead to a backlash from Fifa members.
The furore follows an undercover investigation by the Sunday Times in October in which it was alleged that Fifa members Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii asked for money in return for voting on World Cup hosting rights.
Adamu, from Nigeria, was later suspended from all footballing activity by Fifa's Ethics Committee for three years, while Tahitian Temarii received a one-year suspension. Both were also handed fines.
They are now prohibited from taking part in the vote to decide who will host the 2018 and 2022 World Cup finals.
England face competition from Netherlands/Belgium, Russia and Spain/Portugal for the 2018 tournament.
The host of the 2022 contest will also be decided on 2 December, with Australia, Japan, Qatar, South Korea and the United States competing for the rights.
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Warner added that there was no new material in the programme and that he was not losing sleep over it.
What he actually said was "It is just a rehash of the same old bullshit so I continue to sleep very soundly at nights."
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/848035-jack-warner-panorama-out-to-harm-england-2018-world-cup-hopes
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At this point Jack better play his card right. If he f-up with England he will get thunder from the English. They just playing along to get the WC,
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Warner, who said last week that he had still to decide which way he would vote, spoke of his dissatisfaction with the Panorama investigation in a vehement e-mail to Press Association Sport.
"I am sure it's a personal vendetta. But it is sooooooooooo stupid... for it can have no effect on me personally or on anyone else in Fifa for that matter."
First time I have seen de BBC quote a man saying "Soooooooooo" :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Jack jes vex he compatriots get busted for asking for money and football complex and ting..how de f**k allyuh tink he get dem Koreans to build de center ah excellence? Is so dm could host world cup...steupos allyuh does sleep plenty in here?
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Warner, who said last week that he had still to decide which way he would vote, spoke of his dissatisfaction with the Panorama investigation in a vehement e-mail to Press Association Sport.
"I am sure it's a personal vendetta. But it is sooooooooooo stupid... for it can have no effect on me personally or on anyone else in Fifa for that matter."
First time I have seen de BBC quote a man saying "Soooooooooo" :rotfl: :rotfl:
he maybe stammer dey.... :rotfl:
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England's 2018 World Cup chances begin and end with Jack Warner (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/nov/23/england-world-cup-2018-series)
Owen Gibson
The Guardian (http://www.footballunlimited.co.uk),
Tuesday 23 November 2010
When Simon Cowell is wheeled out to back England's 2018 World Cup bid to ignite one final PR push it must signal the final stages of an exhausting campaign that has been the equal of one of his reality shows for rollercoaster emotion and behind the scenes intrigue. It was Beatles week on the X-Factor and, for the England 2018 chief executive, Andy Anson, next Thursday's vote in Zurich will represent the end of a long and winding road.
Just as scrutiny of England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup began in earnest with all eyes on Jack Warner, the often controversial Concacaf president, so it will end. It was Warner's intervention more than a year ago that presaged a fervent bout of soul-searching over the composition of England's bid board and ultimately prompted a wholesale reorganisation. The three votes believed to be controlled by Warner – his own plus those of the larger than life American Chuck Blazer and the Guatemalan Rafael Salguero – will be crucial if England are to negotiate a passage through the first round of voting with enough momentum to make them potential winners. Hence Warner's lunch invitation from David Cameron, who has thrown himself with gusto into the final few weeks of lobbying with half an eye on proving himself the heir to Tony Blair in more ways than one and repeating the former prime minister's late push that helped secure the 2012 Olympics.
Hence, too, the continued nervousness about next Monday's Panorama. England's bid team feel they have done all they can to distance themselves, including writing to all 22 executive committee members, but are acutely aware it could undermine their final push. Warner yesterday spoke out on the topic for the first time, claiming he was "sure it's a personal vendetta". "But it is sooooooooooo stupid … for it can have no effect on me personally or on anyone else in Fifa for that matter and, in my personal opinion, it is deliberately designed to negatively impact on England's chances," he wrote in an email. "It is just a rehash of the same old bullshit so I continue to sleep very soundly at nights."
Deconstructing the problems with the process – the parallel races for 2018 and 2022 that virtually guarantee collusion, the small electorate with power but little accountablity, the secret nature of the ballot, the way in which bidders are encouraged to criss-cross the globe making promises – is a debate for another day. The bidders have to deal with the world as it is, and that means a frantic last bout of lobbying if they are to come from behind and triumph. They remain convinced there are still votes up for grabs.
Through all the internal ructions that dogged the first 18 months of the campaign, England's team have always known that it would come down to this. The outcome remains impossible to call between their bid and those of Spain/Portgual and Russia because the margins are so fine. There also remains the possibility that one of the three could crash out in the first round at the expense of Holland/Belgium. For England to remain in contention, they need to carry the three Concacaf votes to reach their target of the seven required to definitely progress. Danny Jordaan, the man who worked for 16 years to bring the World Cup to South Africa, warned last year that the three votes (four before Amos Adamu's suspension) from Africa would also be crucial.
England have lobbied hard to secure them, but Russia appears in pole position. Likewise Asian Football Confederation president Mohamed Bin Hammam. While the Premier League has forged close links with Bin Hammam and the AFC in recent years, Bin Hammam appears to have hitched his wagons to Spain/Portugal's bid because it offers the best chance of getting Qatar over the line in 2022. But Asia will not vote as a bloc. Japan's Junji Ogura is expected to back England, while the Thai Worawi Makudi is thought to be in the Spain/Portugal camp and the intentions of South Korea's Chung Mong-joon remain unclear.
England's bid team believe they retain a good chance of securing the majority they require. Russia's support base may have been weakened by Spanish alliance with Qatar and Sepp Blatter's rearguard action against Spain and Qatar could lead to a reluctance from those outside the bloc of seven to join them in later rounds. Speculation of this sortabout the voting will intensify as the bidders read the runes and construct their lobbying strategies for the final week, when some of the biggest names in politics and football will take up residence in the lakeside hotel favoured by executive committee members for one final frantic push.
The twists and turns of the past few weeks have been enough to destablise all involved. Two Fifa executive committee members have been suspended, provoking a state of near revolt among some of their colleagues and leaving all the bidders hurriedly recalibrating their strategies. And while Fifa's ethics committee ruled that there were not "sufficient grounds" to prove vote trading between Spain/Portugal's 2018 bid and Qatar's pitch for 2022 it is widely assumed that their interests are aligned to the extent that they can each rely on the support of seven executive committtee members.
Turbulence has been the default setting for the England bid for most of the 22 months since a delegation landed in Zurich in January 2009 to submit the bid. The week before, the Guardian published an analysis headlined "tensions threaten united front as England launches push for 2018" and things continued in much the same vein for the next 18 months. Initially, there was disquiet at the lack of Premier League representation on the board, against the backdrop of an ongoing power struggle between the FA and the Premier League, and concern that it was stuffed full of political appointees. That eventually led to a wholesale reorganisation in an attempt to get the campaign back on track.
Each new eruption chipped away at morale and diverted attention and resources, preventing the campaign message from evolving much beyond "back the bid". The Premier League chairman, Sir Dave Richards, flounced out over a perceived slight while Lord Triesman, with whom he never saw eye to eye, resigned as bid chairman after a newspaper sting in May that still provokes debate over its morality.
Each internal crisis was viewed with an air of amused inevitablity by England's rivals, who looked on as the bid threatened to self destruct, and credit is due for getting it back on track. There are those, including some on the bid board, who argue that Triesman's departure in May was no bad thing in removing a divisive influence who was unpopular with many at Fifa. There are others who argue with equal force he was forced to leave for no good reason, that he had built good relations with the Uefa president Platini and was beginning to win over other members of the global football family.
Up until a month ago, England had been enjoying a good run on the back of a positive inspection visit in the summer and a successful visit to Downing Street by Blatter. But then came the Sunday Times investigation and the spectre of Panorama. Both played into long-held Fifa fears about the British media and the bid team went into damage limitation mode. In Fifa's alternate reality, Russia's crackdown on free speech is seen as preferable to the prospect of facing the British media for eight years.
Anson and co have been buoyed by what they say has been positive feedback from an attempt to nullify the effects and are convinced they have a good chance of pulling off a comeback. Almost all of those close to the process insist it remains too close to call. With such a small electorate, and such fine margins at play, persuading a single voter to switch his second preference to England could prove crucial in the latter rounds of voting.
Anson, sounding more upbeat of late, yesterday headed east to the Asian Footballer of the Year awards in Kuala Lumpur with board member Paul Elliott, his chairman, Geoff Thompson, and the culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt. Meanwhile, the globetrotting international president, David Dein, was in Brazil at Soccerex in a final attempt to swing the votes of Fifa executive committee members. "We are in it to win it," he said, before leaving for Paraguay.
Through all its ups and downs the English bid has been played out in public. Spain and Portugal, in contrast, have barely had a public profile. Instead, they have largely relied on the prodigous networking skills of their executive committee member Angel Maria Villar Llona and go into the final week with a strong chance of victory.
The fundamentals of England'sthe bid remain strong, as emphasised by the technical reports published last week by Fifa. Passionate fans, impressive and already built stadiums, a promised record commercial return, a "home from home" for competing teams and the promise of a legacy for world football. The drive to ensure that the bid was not hobbled by the sense of arrogance and entitlement that tripped up the last attempt to secure the World Cup has been largely successful, even if it has sometimes led to a curious timidity.
Paradoxically, England's strength is also its weakness. The Fifa president, and others on the executive committee are in thrall to the idea of making history and taking their biggest cash cow into new territories. For all England's hopes that the global recession would promote caution, Russia remains a beguiling option – particularly if the multi-billion pound investment is underwritten by the government and personally guaranteed by Vladimir Putin.
The Spain/Portugal bid highlights another perceived blind spot for England. Not only does English football not have a Platini or a Franz Beckenbauer, it does not have a Villar Llona. The first chairman, Triesman, built good relations with Platini but others were scathing. And the second, England's representative on the Fifa executive committee, Geoff Thompson, has kept a characteristically low profile that his supporters say is quietly effective and his detractors say may as well be non-existent.
If England fail to prevail, much soul searching will follow. The bid itself will come under scrunity, but so too will the Football Association and Fifa itself. Others will ask whether we should have been bidding in the first place. The core bid team is seen to have generally done a good job in the last six months, for all the problems of the previous eighteen.
To win, they will have to replicate the late burst of momentum that saw London 2012 over the line in Singapore in 2005 and hope that the stardust of their delegation combined with a glitzy presentation expected to major heavily on Premier League stars will be enough to beat Russia's compelling legacy driven pitch and Spain/Portugal's superior political clout. The recurring questions that have repeatedly bubbled to the surface will return a thousandfold if the best efforts of Cameron, Prince William, David Beckham and co do not prove enough on 2 December.
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Beckham puts faith in 'good relationship' with Warner
ESPN
David Beckham has spoken of his "good relationship" with FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, and he insists England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup is "looking good".
Beckham is currently in Zurich attempting to "put the cherry on the cake" as England close their World Cup bid ahead of Thursday's vote. Spain's joint bid with Portugal, along with Russia's proposal, have been considered long-term favourites, but England are believed to be making things closer than was expected at the start of the week.
Crucial to the voting process is Trinidad and Tobago football executive Warner, who is recognised as one of the most significant floating voters due to his role as CONCACAF president. Beckham has a long history with Warner, having set up a football Academy in the southern Caribbean state, and he spoke positively of their relationship on Wednesday.
"I've always had a good relationship with Jack," Beckham told Sky Sports News. "When we played over there for England, it was my 50th cap as England captain. I promised I'd open the Academy. His vote is crucial, but there are other votes we need too.
"But as I say, I've always had a good relationship with Jack. When I was over there, I met his family and his friends and it was a great trip. He's a very important man."
Beckham has been joined by Prime Minister David Cameron and Prince William to boost England's bid, and the England international admits he is aware of "a few" guaranteed votes secured by England. And, after Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin snubbed the vote on Wednesday, Beckham insists the importance of such figures cannot be overestimated.
"It's going to be close," he said. "I know a few [guaranteed votes], but it's not for me to sit here and say who I definitely know will vote for us, or who I think might vote for us. But I believe we've got a lot of supporters and things are looking good. We're confident.
"We're getting a positive reaction. The stuff that has gone on over the last few days [regarding the BBC's Panorama programme] has been spoken about, it had to be spoken about, we spoke to the president about everything that had been said, but he guaranteed us it wouldn't affect the vote.
"Having the Prime Minister here, and having Prince William here, you cannot downplay that. It's huge. Everybody knows the support we have from the fans, but to have the weight of the future King of England and the Prime Minister here... I saw what happened in Singapore when Tony Blair went over there, to have that stature with us in the bid is huge."
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ah want somebody to make ah tune usin the melody of 'Wine Dhanraj Wine'
bUt I eh sure if is best to insert becks name or gordon brown or queen elizabet
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ah want somebody to make ah tune usin the melody of 'Wine Dhanraj Wine'
bUt I eh sure if is best to insert becks name or gordon brown or queen elizabet
Y YUH HAITING. Support d BRITS. Dey just whoring in PUBLIC OTHERS WHORING IN PRIVATE.
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British PM phones Kamla on air passenger duty
By WALTER ALIBEY Wednesday, December 1 2010
PRIME Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday continued talks with her British counterpart David Cameron concerning lowering the Air Passenger Duty (APD) taxes for passengers travelling to Trinidad and Tobago or any Caribbean destination.
The discussion took place via a telephone call which Cameron made to Persad-Bissessar, from Zurich, Switzerland, on the advice of Minister of Works and Transport Jack Warner.
Cameron met with Warner, a FIFA vice president, to convince him to grant England the CONCACAF vote for the 2018 World Cup. During their talks Warner encouraged Cameron to phone Persad-Bissessar in Trinidad.
Warner, in a release issued from Zurich, said he could not allow the opportunity to pass by and not highlight what he saw as “the great injustice” being inflicted upon Caribbean people through the tax.Only last month, Persad-Bissessar, in a meeting of the Commonwealth in London, raised the issue of the APD tax with Cameron which she said has been a problem for Caricom countries.
Each economy class traveller to the Caribbean was required to pay a fee of £50 (US$77) in APD which was expected to be increased by November 1. With the increase, travellers to regional countries now have to pay £75 (US$115) while the taxes for premium economy, business and first class were expected to rise from £100 (US$154) to £150 (US$291).
Persad-Bissessar described the fees as detrimental to Caribbean economies and sources said if discussions with Cameron were fruitful yesterday then Trinidad and Tobago and regional economies may receive welcome relief soon.
Persad-Bissessar’s call for a review of the APD last month was noted by Cameron and his Foreign Minister Haque, after which she was given a commitment that the levels of the duties would be revisited.
Sources said Persad-Bissessar was even more optimistic the British government would reconsider the duty after Cameron’s discussions with Warner who raised the issue.
In his statement, Warner said he informed Cameron that the Caribbean was feeling the pinch of the APD and recommended the British government should revisit the tax.
“Many of us depend on tourism and the effect of this tax is grave,” Warner said yesterday.
England is competing for the right to host the 2018 World Cup along with Spain, Belgium- Netherlands, Portugal and Russia while the United States is bidding to host the 2022 World Cup. The US is competing with Australia, Japan, Qatar and South Korea.
The voting process will take place tomorrow at the FIFA Headquarters in Zurich, Switzerland.
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Straight show down between Russia and England and Russia have state sponsored mafia, so who yuh thinkJack go want?
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Edwards backing England World Cup bid
twtd.co.uk
Midfielder Carlos Edwards says England deserves to be awarded the 2018 World Cup by FIFA later today. The destinations of the next two tournaments are in the process of being decided in Zurich.
Trinidad and Tobago international Edwards, who has been an ambassador for the English bid, says the fans and the stadia should win the day for England: "I have really enjoyed being involved in the bid as an ambassador and doing whatever I can to help England win the bid.
"Football means so much to a lot of people in this country. Wherever you go, walking down the road, in the pub, on the street corner - people are talking about football.
"That's one of the reasons I think this country deserves to host the World Cup. The fans will make the tournament a big success.
"The stadia in this country are first class as well. England could hold the World Cup tomorrow when you look around some of the grounds up and down the country.
"Everything is there for it to be a special tournament in England and a great success and I hope the vote goes to this country."
England are up against Netherlands-Belgium, Russia and Spain-Portugal for the 2018 tournament with Australia, the US, Japan, South Korea and Qatar battling it out for the 2022 competition.
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Soooo dey decide yet?? It bout 5 - 6 pm in Switzerland now.... :-\
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live announcement @ 10 am ET - http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/bidders/live/index.html
frankly, the corruption in FIFA, lack of commitment on the part of players, and the emergence of the champions league make the world cup lose it lustre IMHO.
world cup cyah touch champions league in terms of pure football quality.
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Results delayed b/c of prolonged voting
BBC news correspondent James Pearce has just learned that today's announcement of World Cup 2018 and World Cup 2022 hosts is likely to be delayed. Originally scheduled for 10:00 a.m. Eastern, Pearce relays word from a FIFA official that voting is taking longer than anticipated:
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2010/12/1/1848538/world-cup-2018-2022-host-bids-united-states-usa-england-russia-qatar
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Results delayed b/c of prolonged voting
BBC news correspondent James Pearce has just learned that today's announcement of World Cup 2018 and World Cup 2022 hosts is likely to be delayed. Originally scheduled for 10:00 a.m. Eastern, Pearce relays word from a FIFA official that voting is taking longer than anticipated:
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2010/12/1/1848538/world-cup-2018-2022-host-bids-united-states-usa-england-russia-qatar
dey now ask ppl to take dey seats... but like ppl still old talking and liming... is like assembly in school ;D
de girl ask dem to sit down again.. she getting vex :rotfl: nobody taking she on
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Sit down and hush allyuh mouth, announcement coming up..
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now hearing ah rumour that england went out in de first round ... damn... if true that would be embarrassing
Damn... more and more suggestions of that being the case ... WOW
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now hearing ah rumour that england went out in de first round ... damn... if true that would be embarrassing
Damn... more and more suggestions of that being the case ... WOW
NFW!! :o for real?
dem fellahs eh bring forth the royal winer gyal
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what go on there? i hear "ladies and gentlemen..." and now is just silence... ???
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russians mus be put polonium in de water jugs
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Live BBC feed...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9247651.stm
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what go on there? i hear "ladies and gentlemen..." and now is just silence... ???
wukking for me... it now starting up...
de man come on to rough up the ppl who wasn't taking on de gyul :rotfl:
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Yeah they saying England out for sure..
F***ery.
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Yeah they saying England out for sure..
F***ery.
politics and f***ery
... why Sepp doh hush he arse and announce it...
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Andre predictions:
- Russia for 18
- Qatar for 22
money talks. fifa full of shit.
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Andre predictions:
- Russia for 18
- Qatar for 22
money talks. fifa full of shit.
right
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Yeah they saying England out for sure..
F***ery.
They should have play T&T again on the 17th
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Oh gaaarrrdddd oooooohhhhh!!!!.....England out??!!! :o :o :o Unleash the English press!!!! Jack de goh do for you now!!!!...
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Yo Fifa aint easy nah;dem English and dem must be cryin! After all the hoops Jack make dem jump tru! Another country that will hate Jack as much as Trinidad!
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Yo Fifa aint easy nah;dem English and dem must be cryin! After all the hoops Jack make dem jump tru! Another country that will hate Jack as much as Trinidad!
not announced yet... still only rumours
it coming now though
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Yo Fifa aint easy nah;dem English and dem must be cryin! After all the hoops Jack make dem jump tru! Another country that will hate Jack as much as Trinidad!
not announced yet... still only rumours
it coming now though
Noted....
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contenders...
Netherlands/Belgium
Portugal/Spain
Russia
England
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England out in first round. Looks like Warner pulled his votes
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I half expecting them to go to break before the announcement.
Like Who wants to be a millionaire
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RUSSIA
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2018: Goes to...
Russia!
Score: Andre 1, England 0
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Russia??? Steeeeuuuups....
wdmc!
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Is now dem british tabloids go come gunnin fuh jack and sepp....formerly known as JEP
Putin musse threaten jack at de last meetin...or kate say she eh winin
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RUSSIA
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Aye look ting!!! Dem must be real pay out much dollars!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
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I find the commemorative certificate coulda have more bling.
It look like they buy it in staples and print it this morning.
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Is now dem british tabloids go come gunnin fuh jack and sepp....formerly known as JEP
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Is now dem british tabloids go come gunnin fuh jack and sepp....formerly known as JEP
And that's a bad thing?
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Englands next chance to host will be 2030! I know many people don't rate England, but its still the home of arguably the strongest league in the world and its a travesty that they have to wait 64 years between tournaments.
Will be interesting to see if Russia can build the stadiums, roads, airports and hotels required.
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2022 Contenders:
Japan
Korea
Qatar
Australia
USA
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Steups.. Sepp, hush yuh ass and tell we who getting it for 2022 nuh man!!
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Ah wonder how involved Abramovich has been and will be in this whole thing?
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Steups.. Sepp, hush yuh ass and tell we who getting it for 2022 nuh man!!
:rotfl:
it coming now
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Englands next chance to host will be 2030! I know many people don't rate England, but its still the home of arguably the strongest league in the world and its a travesty that they have to wait 64 years between tournaments.
Will be interesting to see if Russia can build the stadiums, roads, airports and hotels required.
Fifa have a desire to use the world cup to help the development of the sport. The surprise is not that england didn't get 2018, but that Germany got 2006.
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Qatar!
Andre buss the net again. 2-0
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mmmmhmmm money money haha
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Qatar!
Andre buss the net again. 2-0
i dream this shit last night. i shoulda put money down.
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I only have one thing to say.....
RHEL MONEY PASS!!!
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is all about money and oil....
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Qatar!
Andre buss the net again. 2-0
i dream this shit last night. i shoulda put money down.
steups... these two was de favourites for months... money talks indeed
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Yeah they saying England out for sure..
F***ery.
They should have play T&T again on the 17th
Andrew Jennings is to blame! ;)
FIFA's Dirty Secrets
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51899.0 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51899.0)
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qatar dread ?
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He invite him 2 lunch 2 ask him fish or chicken 4 d Royal Wedding. As we sure he on d list.
Doh think he on that list anymore :devil:
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Money talks..bullshit walks....dem fellas on dat executive committee laughing tuh d bank.....
players goe get paid now
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is best we make a bid too, qatar population is 1.6 mil
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Money talks..bullshit walks runs a marathon....dem fellas on dat executive committee laughing tuh d bank.....
players goe get paid now
Well Yes ....
They never play in a WC Final, and yet they getting to host one..
$$$: cha ching
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maybe the T&T players go get paid now....jack & sepp full up dey account with mafia and arab gold bricks
german cash is small change
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qatar dread ?
Qatar was Sepp personal choice for a long time now...
He wants his legacy to be bringing the WC to regions who never had it before
ASIA, AFRICA, MIDDLE EAST
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sombody was sayin warner pump bout several hundred mil in d election campaign..now dat i see qatar win.......
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is best we make a bid too, qatar population is 1.6 mil
Good idea!
Is probably the only way we would qualify for World Cup ever again from the current direction we football going!
Hey Jack, that is something to work on then you can take full credit for T&T qualifying for the World Cup and no one can tell yuh nothing about your negative role as TTFF Special Advisor! 8)
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is best we make a bid too, qatar population is 1.6 mil
Good idea!
Is probably the only way we would qualify for World Cup ever again from the current direction we football going!
Hey Jack, that is something to work on then you can take full credit for T&T qualifying for the World Cup and no one can tell yuh nothing about your negative role as TTFF Special Advisor! 8)
we makin a nex world cup...jack goin shoppin for a coach now..
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:rotfl: 100% proof!
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I am not surprised!!!!! LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ah feel sorry for england..well not relly...dey twist all how for jack...
i remember a news report some shit was leakin in maraval and warner went to see..news cameras etc..i relly see while warner talkin to d residents an to reporters an to ppl from d ministry he was constantly switchin from his phone conversation to d ppl around him..at times he didnt even remove d phone from his mouth wen he was talkin to ppl..bout d shit leak etc etc...
u kno..later in d sports cast dey say/and warner say...that it was David Cameron he was there on d phone wit...and that shit leak tour look like it take a while...
d tings england hadda do...
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Allyuh, despite the allegations and the air of corruption that has shrouded these proceedings, these countries deserve ah chance to host...
lets not forget the quality of Qatar's football team :angel:
http://www.youtube.com/v/NQLylizGmDs
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Allyuh, despite the allegations and the air of corruption that has shrouded these proceedings, these countries deserve ah chance to host...
lets not forget the quality of Qatar's football team :angel:
http://www.youtube.com/v/NQLylizGmDs
:rotfl: :rotfl:
I reckon our football team with head coach Latapy is currently around the same standard so we could host the World Cup too! ;)
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allyuh...
The 8 villains of Englands bid
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/gallery/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2018-defeated-englands-villains#/?picture=369288821&index=7
Selected bits
6. Jack Warner
Magisterial Concacaf supremo and instrument of colonial revenge. One saving grace of England’s failed bid: nobody ever needs to pretend to like him again
8. Aston Villa and Birmingham City fans
Staged a right old tear-up the day before decision day. Who needs El Clasico? Come to England and get a palette through the head. Come to England and we will do you. A strangely resistible offer
:rotfl:
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allyuh...
8. Aston Villa and Birmingham City fans
Staged a right old tear-up the day before decision day. Who needs El Clasico? Come to England and get a palette through the head. Come to England and we will do you. A strangely resistible offer
:rotfl:
the accompanying picture is pure kicks.....straight goontarism on display dey
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Qatar's stadium ;D
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/201933453.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1291308108&Signature=cIl5DSzCXu3BrOg7G10cEWZ%2FPpE%3D)
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Qatar's stadium ;D
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/201933453.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1291308108&Signature=cIl5DSzCXu3BrOg7G10cEWZ%2FPpE%3D)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
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Russia, Qatar get World Cups in 2018 and 2022
By RAF CASERT, AP Sports Writer
(AP)—FIFA sent the World Cup into uncharted territory Thursday, handing the 2018 edition to Russia and going to Qatar in 2022.
Russia’s selection came despite the no-show of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, but his influence still had an impact on FIFA’s 22 voters as the bid won over England, Spain-Portugal and Belgium-Netherlands.
Qatar brings the World Cup to the smallest host ever but one which has unparalleled financial clout to stage the world’s biggest single-sport event. It overcame objections about holding the games in desert heat and asked FIFA to take a “bold gamble.”
Russian Deputy Prime Minister …
The United States and Australia had been tipped as favorites alongside Qatar for 2022. Japan and South Korea were also in the running.
After three days of high anxiety when England sent Prime Minister David Cameron, Prince William and David Beckham for intense lobbying and the United States counted on the aura of former President Bill Clinton, none were a match for the novelty promised by Qatar and Russia.
“Thank you for believing in change,” said Qatar’s Emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani.
Qatar will stage a World Cup in and around Doha in a desert summer but promises state-of-the-art technology to cool fans and players alike.
After the elimination of Australia, Japan and South Korea, it came down to a duel between the United States, promising huge commercial spoils in a key growth market, and the new territory of the Gulf region, still flush with riches despite the global financial crisis.
Qataris and others—including workers from south Asia—immediately started dancing in the streets along Doha’s Gulf waterfront. Some blew the vuvuzelas that became synonymous with the World Cup in South Africa.
Qatar had asked FIFA to take a “bold gamble” and insisted the desert nation’s extreme heat would not be an issue.
All through its lobbying effort, it stressed the compact nation had the money, resources and high-technology to overcome any logistical objections.
The tournament would be held when temperatures in Qatar typically exceed 48 degrees C (118 degrees F). FIFA highlighted the potential risk posed by the heat.
It pointed out that World Cups in Mexico 1986 and United States 1994 also faced massive heat and both were big sporting successes.
Qatar is promising to spend $50 billion on infrastructure upgrades and $4 billion to build nine stadiums and renovate three others. No stadium would be more than an hour apart, while many would be dismantled and sections would be sent to poor nations.
In the wake of the successful hosting of the World Cup in the once-divided South Africa, one of Qatar’s strongest arguments is that the tournament would have a transformational effect in the region.
Few gave the Russian bid much of a chance after the charismatic Putin unexpectedly pulled out of the final presentation despite presenting himself all along as a personal guarantor of the bid.
Still, it came through, partly relying on strong government guarantees from Moscow and, like Qatar, able to underwrite funding by its huge natural energy reserves.
After arriving in Zurich strongly favored to win, Russian bid officials spent Wednesday denying suggestions that Putin’s absence revealed fading confidence. Putin reportedly will fly to Switzerland to join the celebrations.
Russia’s deputy prime minister Igor Shuvalov appealed to FIFA’s sense of football’s power to change society and likened the choice to the “very brave and wise decision” of awarding the 2010 World Cup to South Africa.
“We are building a new Russia,” Putin’s deputy said. “We can achieve this better and quicker with your help.”
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Qatar's stadium ;D
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/201933453.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1291308108&Signature=cIl5DSzCXu3BrOg7G10cEWZ%2FPpE%3D)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Guys don't laugh butthey got the money to build them. But what will they do with them after?????
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
Jack supposedly controlled 3 votes from what i understand... and now see here:
In the first round of voting, England got 2 votes, Holland/Belgium 4, Spain/Portugal 7 and Russia 9, Fifa have confirmed.
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
Don't know that Jack screwed them over but who has been the most prominent Fifa official commiserating with England and the focus has been on? I am sure fingers will be pointed his way whether he had anything to do with it or not.
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USA get wallop
Qatar beat USA 14-8 in the fourth round of voting, but almost claimed it in the first round.
First round: Australia 1, Japan 3, USA 3, Korea Republic 4, Qatar 11
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
Jack supposedly controlled 3 votes from what i understand... and now see here:
In the first round of voting, England got 2 votes, Holland/Belgium 4, Spain/Portugal 7 and Russia 9, Fifa have confirmed.
Jack did not vote for them! One of those 2 votes for England would have been by their English excecutive member!
If Jack had voted for England then they would have secured at least 4 votes in the 1st round as Jack controls 3 votes!
England must blame the BBC & Andrew Jennings for not securing Jack's 3 votes! ;)
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Qatar is promising to spend $50 billion on infrastructure upgrades and $4 billion to build nine stadiums and renovate three others. No stadium would be more than an hour apart, while many would be dismantled and sections would be sent to poor nations.
None ah dem others could compare tuh that.
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If nothing else, I am certain that Qatar will build the most beautiful stadiums in the world. I also think that they'll have the most state of the art transportation system in place. That said, I have very little faith in Qatar as a host... the heat and security issues may be resolved by the time 2022 rolls around, but I reserving my doubts.
Russia... what a joke. I'll watch on TV as ah normally do.
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
Jack supposedly controlled 3 votes from what i understand... and now see here:
In the first round of voting, England got 2 votes, Holland/Belgium 4, Spain/Portugal 7 and Russia 9, Fifa have confirmed.
Key word is supposedly. I feel Jack just give them the one vote. After all collusion to vote is against FIFA rules and Jack is an upstanding, honest ExCo member.
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To be honest folks, I wanted England to win it for 2018 & USA to win it for 2022.
But as you know is FIFA we dealing with and its all about pocket greasing rather than the merits of each bid!
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Jack got balls-he better travel with heavy security from now on! English lurkin every where!
Do we know that Jack screwed them over? It is possible that Jack was the only one to vote for them in the 1st round and then he just jump to Russia to put them over the top.
At the end of the day England was in a tough spot and had to deal with Jack because with his open pandering he was the best route to any sure votes even though his reach not long enough to put them over the top on his own.
Jack supposedly controlled 3 votes from what i understand... and now see here:
In the first round of voting, England got 2 votes, Holland/Belgium 4, Spain/Portugal 7 and Russia 9, Fifa have confirmed.
Key word is supposedly. I feel Jack just give them the one vote. After all collusion to vote is against FIFA rules and Jack is an upstanding, honest ExCo member.
HA HA HA HA yuh killing me.... I doubt Jack vote for them thoug... he and Chuck does always vote together... that is 2 votes right dey... I could see the Guatemalan man or whichever one it is voting for Spain/Portugal if is anything... but I doubt he woulda break with them either...
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Is it confirmed that Concacaf voted for Russia ?
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Maybe Jack would come out & say who he voted for in the 1st round to prove that he keeps his promises!
And by the same breath maybe our 2006 World Cup players will get paid their bonus money! ;)
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Is it confirmed that Concacaf voted for Russia ?
Concacaf is a block of 3... so the entire block could not possibly have voted for England in de first round..
my theory is none of the 3 did... and Jack is a two face, fork tongue snake... but whats new
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So Jack:
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
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The presentations went down like this:
England: We can offer programs all over the world that would help bring people out of poverty. By 2014 we can have as much funds as FIFA to sustain these programs.
Russia: Members of the Committee...we can make you rich. Mr. Warner we can make you the world's first black billionaire....
Qatar: Mr. Warner what about Trillionaire????
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So Jack:
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
Jack checked his bank account just before he voted and wasn't happy especially as he may have to find the bonus money to pass to the TTFF to pay our 2006 World Cup players!
Jack on the phone to Camps:
Camps boy ah cyah help yuh out as ah promised yuh when ah put yuh back as head of TTFF.
Ah real sorry as yuh is meh boy!! Just make sure yuh have yuh jail clothes ready just in case!! :-*
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So which stadium we gettin from Qatar? :devil:
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So which stadium we gettin from Qatar? :devil:
We need to have the fans willing to watch we teams play to fill it fuss before making that request!
And is T&T classed as poor?!
Doh worry, ah know yuh joking! ;D
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Wait nah.
Qatar was the only nation out of 9 to get a negative report in the technical evaluation by FIFA.
48 degree heat.
Pro league..low on quality.
Oh gorm FIFA.....allyuh really trying allyuh best to show allyuh eh care?
I waiting to see the English media backlash as the whole bid committee wipe the semen from de side of their mouths and deal with the disappointment.
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So which stadium we gettin from Qatar? :devil:
We need to have the fans willing to watch we teams play to fill it fuss before making that request!
And is T&T classed as poor?!
When it comes to free stadiums, we are third world all de way!! Centre of Excellence is not big enough, we need a Stadium of Excellence!!
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Jack movin like Senator Clay Davis from The Wire. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_Davis)
Collectin money from everybody and back the one who give him d most!
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So is Qatar going to relax their alcohol policies? How would they deal with security?
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This is the worst decision FIFA has ever made
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This is the worst decision FIFA has ever made
Certainly not in terms of personal finances of members.
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This is the worst decision FIFA has ever made
Certainly not in terms of personal finances of members.
+1
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So is Qatar going to relax their alcohol policies? How would they deal with security?
I would bet they willin to modify it for the duration of the tournament..bendin with the breeze
Kinda like south africa and the high speed world cup night court ting
ah see socapro lookin to tackle sonme qatari gyirls...he eh know if yuh move wrong in dem kinda country dey does chop off yuh taliban
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This is the worst decision FIFA has ever made
Certainly not in terms of personal finances of members.
OK most unethical.
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This is the worst decision FIFA has ever made
Certainly not in terms of personal finances of members.
OK most unethical.
Well they keep striving to set the new limits for that. Yuh hadda give FIFA credit......dey try to be as brazen as possible....and as corrupt as possible. Admirable work ethic......splendid quality.
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So is Qatar going to relax their alcohol policies? How would they deal with security?
This is what I was wondering. What about Adverstising? Are there any sponsors that might go against Qatar conservative policies? What about the interaction of men and women? The dress code of women attending the World Cup
Will she be able to leave the stadium like this?
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9316/sexyworldcupfans30.jpg)
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http://www.youtube.com/v/pPUgp9_ZnLU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/v/d-z2jtUS9-Y
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So is Qatar going to relax their alcohol policies? How would they deal with security?
This is what I was wondering. What about Adverstising? Are there any sponsors that might go against Qatar conservative policies? What about the interaction of men and women? The dress code of women attending the World Cup
Will she be able to leave the stadium like this?
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9316/sexyworldcupfans30.jpg)
I want to see if FIFA will drop Budweiser as an official sponsor.
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So is Qatar going to relax their alcohol policies? How would they deal with security?
This is what I was wondering. What about Adverstising? Are there any sponsors that might go against Qatar conservative policies? What about the interaction of men and women? The dress code of women attending the World Cup
Will she be able to leave the stadium like this?
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9316/sexyworldcupfans30.jpg)
Let's hope so :beermug:
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So Jack:
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
ENTTTTTTTTTTTTT I LOVE ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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so only 2 men vote for H'England dey own and another....so why it couldnah be Austin's?
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so only 2 men vote for H'England dey own and another....so why it couldnah be Austin's?
According to David Bond of the BBC on Twitter: "England's second vote came from Issa Hayatou - amazing when one considers he was one of the Panorama three."
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so only 2 men vote for H'England dey own and another....so why it couldnah be Austin's?
You ent following a what? jack and he Mafia does ALWAYS vote together... it highly unlikely they would go against each other...
look confirmation below... edit: I am actually hearing it was the japanese guy who provided the other vote... fact is, it most likely was not Jack
According to David Bond of the BBC on Twitter: "England's second vote came from Issa Hayatou - amazing when one considers he was one of the Panorama three."
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Whoops, I forgot one...
So Jack:
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
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Whoops, I forgot one...
So Jack:
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
:rotfl:
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Whoops, I forgot one...
So Jack:
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
Maybe Jack wanted to show them in a punishing way that he is not swayed by small bribes! ;)
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so only 2 men vote for H'England dey own and another....so why it couldnah be Austin's?
You ent following a what? jack and he Mafia does ALWAYS vote together... it highly unlikely they would go against each other...
look confirmation below... edit: I am actually hearing it was the japanese guy who provided the other vote... fact is, it most likely was not Jack
According to David Bond of the BBC on Twitter: "England's second vote came from Issa Hayatou - amazing when one considers he was one of the Panorama three."
like we still eh sure who de other vote was
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I forgot ANOTHER one...sorry sorry... :beermug:
So Jack:
- Got the facility in Longdenville (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48439.0)
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
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two things. The Queen didnt come out and she should have and jennings f**k it up! I didnt want to have to go Russia for WC. Truely. I was lookiing forward to Hengland gettin it.
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I forgot ANOTHER one...sorry sorry... :beermug:
So Jack:
- Got the facility in Longdenville (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48439.0)
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
Yuh forgetting that he met the Prince.....
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two things. The Queen didnt come out and she should have and jennings f**k it up! I didnt want to have to go Russia for WC. Truely. I was lookiing forward to Hengland gettin it.
Yeah blame Jennings....chups!!....
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not a fan of FIFA
but they have a policy of brining the competitions to nations that haven't had it (in a long time)
but russia and quatar never had it
i think that might have been the biggest push towards those two being selected
now let the conspiracy theories commence:
i will start one; the feild invasion in birmingham the night before was instigated by russian maffia (remember a russian said england has a history of hooligans etc)
*russia still is a very racist and prejudiced country, and that wont change in the next 8 years
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did anyone else notice the t&t flag in qatar's presentation (the 3rd stadium)? it would be cool if we qualify for that WC. the temp might work to our advantage a little if we work at it.
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not a fan of FIFA
but they have a policy of brining the competitions to nations that haven't had it (in a long time)
but russia and quatar never had it
i think that might have been the biggest push towards those two being selected
now let the conspiracy theories commence:
i will start one; the feild invasion in birmingham the night before was instigated by russian maffia (remember a russian said england has a history of hooligans etc)
*russia still is a very racist and prejudiced country, and that wont change in the next 8 years
Maybe non-white fans will get some assurances from FIFA that they will be safe from racial abuse in Russia before dipping their hands in their pockets to travel there for the 2018 World Cup!
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did anyone else notice the t&t flag in qatar's presentation (the 3rd stadium)? it would be cool if we qualify for that WC. the temp might work to our advantage a little if we work at it.
If we could get rid of the current TTFF administration by 2018 or before then yes its feasible that we might be able to get our acts together and qualify for 2022 World Cup in Qatar!
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two things. The Queen didnt come out and she should have and jennings f**k it up! I didnt want to have to go Russia for WC. Truely. I was lookiing forward to Hengland gettin it.
Yeah blame Jennings....chups!!....
Brownsugar, put yuh anti-Jack bias to one side for a minute and understand something..
The timing of that BBC Panamora expose was a total asshole move on the part of the English. They shoot deyself in the foot with that one, they coulda muzzle that until after.
Not saying it was the reason they lost but come on, yuh dont bite the hand that feed yuh.
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@ Dinho, Ha, ha, ha....it good for England!!!....Not particularly wanted Russia, but it good for England. Whole facking year dey press eh have one bad thing to report about Jack (except for the UK Guardian), ah wonder why?? ::) ::) Now dey goh feel how the 2006 Soca Warriors felt....and South Africa when they lost out to Germany to host 2006.....
It good!!! Who vex, loss!!!
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So wait nah. Some people mad England didn't get it because they sweeten up Jack for ah looooong time and he turn around and screw them :rotfl:
So what he shoulda do? Vote fuh England and have everybody saying England bribe him, Jack take bribe.
At least now we could only speculate that bribe pass. That is ah real boss move, have everybody looking in one direction and do the bidness in another direction
England was cover the whole time fuh the real payday and they get played.
Oh well.
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I forgot ANOTHER one...sorry sorry... :beermug:
So Jack:
- Got the facility in Longdenville (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48439.0)
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
well dey aint gettin dat Air Passenger Duty lowered again! in fact it wud be higher!
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So wait nah. Some people mad England didn't get it because they sweeten up Jack for ah looooong time and he turn around and screw them :rotfl:
So what he shoulda do? Vote fuh England and have everybody saying England bribe him, Jack take bribe.
At least now we could only speculate that bribe pass. That is ah real boss move, have everybody looking in one direction and do the bidness in another direction
England was cover the whole time fuh the real payday and they get played.
Oh well.
:thumbsup:
Yes we could all chastise Jack for being a crook but doh feel for ah minute that he's a dumb one!
Jack played England big time in this FIFA World Cup bidding chess game & now he could stand tall and tell the English to their face that he is of impeccable character and doh get swayed by bribes! ;)
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Jack didn't vote for england after all they gave him. What an evil c*nt
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Jack didn't vote for england after all they gave him. What an evil c*nt
:devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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BBC had nothing to do with it.
The decision was made long before the BBC program was aired.
Lets face it England never stood a chance versus Russian and Arab dollars.
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BBC had nothing to do with it.
The decision was made long before the BBC program was aired.
Lets face it England never stood a chance versus Russian and Arab dollars.
I agree with you that the decision was made long time.
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BBC had nothing to do with it.
The decision was made long before the BBC program was aired.
Lets face it England never stood a chance versus Russian and Arab dollars.
Money talks & England walks! ;)
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My English padnah real quarrelin on facebook haha
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So wait nah. Some people mad England didn't get it because they sweeten up Jack for ah looooong time and he turn around and screw them :rotfl:
So what he shoulda do? Vote fuh England and have everybody saying England bribe him, Jack take bribe.
At least now we could only speculate that bribe pass. That is ah real boss move, have everybody looking in one direction and do the bidness in another direction
England was cover the whole time fuh the real payday and they get played.
Oh well.
You should change yuh name tuh Trini'assive.
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So wait nah. Some people mad England didn't get it because they sweeten up Jack for ah looooong time and he turn around and screw them :rotfl:
So what he shoulda do? Vote fuh England and have everybody saying England bribe him, Jack take bribe.
At least now we could only speculate that bribe pass. That is ah real boss move, have everybody looking in one direction and do the bidness in another direction
England was cover the whole time fuh the real payday and they get played.
Oh well.
:thumbsup:
Yes we could all chastise Jack for being a crook but doh feel for ah minute that he's a dumb one!
Jack played England big time in this FIFA World Cup bidding chess game & now he could stand tall and tell the English to their face that he is of impeccable character and doh get swayed by bribes! ;)
I eh sure if Jack win or not. Backstabbing hardly ever pays off....if he had played the game and voted for England, everyone wudda been happy and no doubt they would have looked out for Jack in the future. And it would have sent a message that if you treat Jack nice you get what you want. Now everyone knows the games Jack plays.
On the other hand I know if Jack didnt vote England, he sure as hell voted for Russia. Jack eh backstabbing England and jumpin on to a nex sinking ship. He probably figured that, at 67, the runup to WC 2018 will be his last payday and he need to handle his business now wid de Russians, and forget about who not gonna trust him in future. Abramovich go be de new co-owner of Joe Public ;D
One thing is for sure though...Jack name is dirt here in England from now on.
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I forgot ANOTHER one...sorry sorry... :beermug:
So Jack:
- Got the facility in Longdenville (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48439.0)
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
well dey aint gettin dat Air Passenger Duty lowered again! in fact it wud be higher!
CO-SIGNNNNNNN
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So wait nah. Some people mad England didn't get it because they sweeten up Jack for ah looooong time and he turn around and screw them :rotfl:
So what he shoulda do? Vote fuh England and have everybody saying England bribe him, Jack take bribe.
At least now we could only speculate that bribe pass. That is ah real boss move, have everybody looking in one direction and do the bidness in another direction
England was cover the whole time fuh the real payday and they get played.
Oh well.
You should change yuh name tuh Trini'assive.
Nah I good.
Buh you should change yuh name tuh Fake n Bark (no bite)
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England must blame the BBC & Andrew Jennings for not securing Jack's 3 votes! ;)
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You know what does amaze me on this forum,is how we does treat our own people,what we say about them,what we would like to do too them,is a set of hate and dislike for our administration,technical staffs,Coaches etc even foreign media and countries that don't like us we support.
I totally agree with that quote on top there,it's a known fact that Jennings is anti FIFA and JW,he tried his best during our election to distroy JW,now he has done it again but this time it's the English,JW eh have to worry about the English,the peeps he have to worry about right there in his own country,he always have security,i remember a poster on here saying how much the English hate JW black arse.
Football is played on and off the field,we know or see what's on the field,the game JW has to play is off the field,he might be tiedtongue and black but you have to respect him,this whole WC scene is about what T&T can benefit and at the same time be powerbroker for countries he don't even belong too.
I know Andrew Jennings is a favourite on here and we know what's his agenda,he has to keep this up because it's his bread and butter,my hope is if or when he brings down the Football empire the game will improve,come on Jennings expose them let us know who receive hand outs these two World Cups.
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Nah I good.
Buh you should change yuh name tuh Fake n Bark (no bite)
You are as corny as you are dotish... but we already know dat.
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Nah I good.
Buh you should change yuh name tuh Fake n Bark (no bite)
You are as corny as you are dotish... but we already know dat.
Who is we? You and yuh multiple personalities
So is ah new month. Ah get it.
You just have to get yuh fix every month ::)
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Soooo..How exactly is this gonna blow back on us the citizens of this country. First the OPV now this. Let's not forget that Jack Warner is a Government minister now. The man had the Prime Minister of England on the phone talking to our PM about airline tickets :-[ :-[. And still turn around and blank them hard soo.. Nah we have it to meet from them brits for awhile. Trust meh on that. No way they seperating Jack Warner from Trinidad and Tobago.
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Soooo..How exactly is this gonna blow back on us the citizens of this country. First the OPV now this. Let's not forget that Jack Warner is a Government minister now. The man had the Prime Minister of England on the phone talking to our PM about airline tickets :-[ :-[. And still turn around and blank them hard soo.. Nah we have it to meet from them brits for awhile. Trust meh on that. No way they seperating Jack Warner from Trinidad and Tobago.
wish I could of said you were wrong.
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Yuh forgetting that he met the Prince.....
Ah yes, good point. And now the BBC is breaking some news, that I'll incorporate below...
So Jack:
- Promised Prince William to his face that he would vote for England (according to the BBC on the radio right now). The man lied to a future King of England! :rotfl:
- Got the facility in Longdenville (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48439.0)
- Got training and friendlies for the T&T U-20s in Sheffield (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=45671.0)
- Got a handbag
- Got Beckham to come for the Women's U-17 World Cup final
- Got a friendly against England
- Met Brown
- Met Cameron in Zurich
And STILL didn't vote for them! :rotfl:
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^^^ Boss, yuh real enjoying this eh??
(me too.... ;D)
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^^^ Boss, yuh real enjoying this eh??
(me too.... ;D)
ENT Gr8 info 4 an email and FB
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Nah boy... If Jack didn't vote for them in truth he really take unscrupulous to ah whole new level yes...
He was supposed to squeeze dey balls to the point of submission and then let go, but de forker squeeze them till it buss! :-\
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Nah boy... If Jack didn't vote for them in truth he really take unscrupulous to ah whole new level yes...
He was supposed to squeeze dey balls to the point of submission and then let go, but de forker squeeze them till it buss! :-\
well , look like yuh gettin de russian footbal academy in charlieville like yuh wanted
I still doh understand england trottin out prince william
becks and brown I could understand....but what william was supposed to do? impress them with his great enunciation...promise dem kinighthoods if he ever get he grandmudder job?
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Nah boy... If Jack didn't vote for them in truth he really take unscrupulous to ah whole new level yes...
He was supposed to squeeze dey balls to the point of submission and then let go, but de forker squeeze them till it buss! :-\
As I've said in other topics, this was an incredibly damaging move by Warner. Fair enough, he can choose whichever bid he likes to vote for. But if he did, in fact, make promises to Cameron and Prince William, this suddenly escalates beyond football.
Warner is a senior government minister. Whatever role he played in Zurich, he has a sworn duty to promote the interests of his country at all times and his actions cannot bring his country, government or people into disrepute. When he is interacting with senior politicians, he must be considerate of the political consquences of his actions. This is why FIFA demand no government interference in football. Warner should be immediately forced to resign from government. He has damaged the relationship between England and T&T. If he was not a govt minister, this could be fixed with a phone call to Cameron from Kamla, explaining that Warner is a maverick. But how can she apologise for one of her senior ministers? Its an embarrassment. Warner thinks he's immune from everyone.
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"the best way for england to pay back Jack is to make pnm win next elections" :rotfl:
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Did Blatter’s Mob friends fix 2018.
By: Andrew Jennings.
The BBC Panorama FIFA’s Dirty Secrets took us away for several months but we’re back, uploading Seasonal presents for our loyal supporters.
Here’s the film (on YouTube) for those who missed it, the script, more disclosures, conspiracy theories, serious academic analysis of what’s gone wrong in Sepp Blatter’s world of kickbacks, another appearance by the con artist formerly known as ‘Sniff,’ (think about it!) an invitation to download a story nasty lawyers are trying to kill . . . and some laughs.
Come back in a few days to check out an armful of documents that Herr Blatter wants suppressed, the emails that prove to anybody (except Blatter and his cowardly ‘Ethics Committee’) that Jack Warner was back in the World Cup tickets rackets this year and more evidence of how FIFA cheats fans. MORE. (http://www.transparencyinsport.org/Did_Blatter's_Mob_friends_fix_2018_for_Russia/did_blatters_mob_friends_fix_2018_for_russia-page1.html)
http://www.transparencyinsport.org/