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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Zeppo on April 05, 2010, 02:16:25 PM
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FIFA dress code rules Iran’s girls out of Olympics
Iran's girls football team has been kicked out of the Youth Olympic Games because FIFA rules prevent players wearing an Islamic head scarf.
Thailand was nominated on Monday to replace the barred Iranians, the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) said on its Web site.
"FIFA decreed that the wearing of Islamic hijab was not in accordance with the laws of the game," the Asian governing body said in a statement.
(continue) (http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-fifa-iran-hijabban)
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01610/iran_1610091c.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2rfskde.jpg)
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this is some BS if it match the uniform it should not matter let the dammm girls play, :beermug:
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I eh go lie, dey looking like some kinda Muslim Ninja on dat field.
Personally I have no problem with it.
Maybe FIFA fraid that if they allow it they might set a precedent for other religious folks.
VB
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FIFA ban sleeveless jerseys and all in one uniform used by Cameroon in previous ANC competitions. peronally, I have no issue with that. But I can't see how they could play in midday heat or in a heavy downpour. But FIFA are setting a precedent. I wish they set a precedent with them coloured boots. I hate them.
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Seems very unfair to me. For many Muslim women being without a hijab in public is like being naked. Anyway...
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This is F@#King :bs: The women and them have to fight in they country for eqaul opportunity, when they do get a chance to show what they can do the rest of the world - who supposed to be free and equal - fighting them down. This is high class :bs: There is no way FIFA or anyone can rationalize this.
Let the women play, what does it matter that they wearing head dressing. All them macco mere man and them at Real Madrid wearing hair band and no problem.
This real got me POed.
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If they don't like the ruling they could pull out of FIFA. Because I know FIFA ain't changing.
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fair play?
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Why the hell the rest of the teams say they not playing until FIFA let them the women play with their head dress? How about standing up for something? Thailand should not accept the replacement nomination.
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lets be honest most people associates hijab with islamic "terrorism". They don't want be reminded of that. It is unfortunate but that is just they way they feel. Thailand will not turn down the invitation. They are Buddhist. Them and Islam don't see eye to eye either. Especially after the taliban blew up some buddhist statues a couple years.
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Is not Sepp himself say ,women uniforms should be sexier to rise interest in the game ? ......well that eint sexy to Sepp I guess .
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This is F@#King :bs: The women and them have to fight in they country for eqaul opportunity, when they do get a chance to show what they can do the rest of the world - who supposed to be free and equal - fighting them down. This is high class :bs: There is no way FIFA or anyone can rationalize this.
Let the women play, what does it matter that they wearing head dressing. All them macco mere man and them at Real Madrid wearing hair band and no problem. This real got me POed.
Watch it...but I agree with you wholeheartedly about everything else. And do they fine Kaka when he shows his 'I belong to Jesus' tshirt when he scores? Isn't that also a religious reference?
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Article 3 ("Non-discrimination and stance against racism") in the general provisions states: " Discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punisha...ble by suspension or expulsion."
FIFA should practise what they preach. They'e effectively told Muslim women that they won't be allowed to participate in FIFA competitions. Imagine after all their hard work, they were kicked out because they were Muslims.
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Article 3 ("Non-discrimination and stance against racism") in the general provisions states: " Discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punisha...ble by suspension or expulsion."
FIFA should practise what they preach. They'e effectively told Muslim women that they won't be allowed to participate in FIFA competitions. Imagine after all their hard work, they were kicked out because they were Muslims.
Buh Toppa deh eh discriminating, they say the unform violates the rules which it clearly does. I don't like it but it is the rules. I personally wish they were allowed to play.
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Article 3 ("Non-discrimination and stance against racism") in the general provisions states: " Discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punisha...ble by suspension or expulsion."
FIFA should practise what they preach. They'e effectively told Muslim women that they won't be allowed to participate in FIFA competitions. Imagine after all their hard work, they were kicked out because they were Muslims.
Buh Toppa deh eh discriminating, they say the unform violates the rules which it clearly does. I don't like it but it is the rules. I personally wish they were allowed to play.
Well they obviously need to change that rule because they've just marginalised millions of women around the world.
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Buh Toppa deh eh discriminating, they say the unform violates the rules which it clearly does.
Exactly.
And it's not like FIFA is only singling out Muslims. Don't forget that they warned Brazil after their Confederations Cup victory last summer that they don't want to see another excessive religious celebration:
'Keep God out of football' - Fifa tells Brazil's soccer superstars (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199121/Brazils-football-superstars-told-Keep-faith-football.html)
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Is not Sepp himself say ,women uniforms should be sexier to rise interest in the game ? ......well that eint sexy to Sepp I guess .
ha ha - was thinking just that. ent blatter wanted shorter shorts for the women's game to improve tv ratings?
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I agree with Fifa on this, I think it can be dangerous too, imagine playing against a female Crouch who like to pull anything that dangling in front them.
Big Up!
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The US Army just lifted a ban on turbans for sikhs.
(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5iOLShymNxcqhiw6NbkQM7JHTkogg?size=l)
Any sikh football players that can't play in FIFA endorsed competitions?
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Actually there are some exceptions. Swiss, Norway and some other countries have a cross on their flags and sometimes on their jerseys. Turkey, Saudi and some Arab counties have the star and crescent on their flags and sometimes on their jerseys. FIFA don't tell them to cover it up.
Look, If the idea of the hijab is to prevent men from lusting then they in the wrong sport or from another planet. That is part of man's nature. Men are born natural lusters. It have men who does lust after Miss Piggy.
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Actually there are some exceptions. Swiss, Norway and some other countries have a cross on their flags and sometimes on their jerseys. Turkey, Saudi and some Arab counties have the star and crescent on their flags and sometimes on their jerseys. FIFA don't tell them to cover it up.
Look, If the idea of the hijab is to prevent men from lusting then they in the wrong sport or from another planet. That is part of man's nature. Men are born natural lusters. It have men who does lust after Miss Piggy.
What?
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Toppa,
That is part of man's nature. Men are born natural lusters. It have men who does lust after Miss Piggy.
I was trying to be funny!!!!
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This could never be right. Wearing a chain and a hijab is 2 different things. The biggest concern will be health (heat vs cold) and I sure they could get ah under amour head dress.
Let the women play.
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A Hijab is a personal choice, no where does the Koran say they one must be worn. It just talks about dressing modestly so not sure how you can wear shorts and t shirt but must wear a Hijab
And no one has said where the line would be drawn......so would a full face veil be acceptable ?
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Toppa,
That is part of man's nature. Men are born natural lusters. It have men who does lust after Miss Piggy.
I was trying to be funny!!!!
[/quote(http://) Miss piggy the way i like her(http://) with a side of eggs
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This could never be right. Wearing a chain and a hijab is 2 different things. The biggest concern will be health (heat vs cold) and I sure they could get ah under amour head dress.
Let the women play.
Elan, no one is stopping them from playing, they just want them to confirm to the Uniform rules...I mean I have know problem with them playing with their head gear..but it does not conform to the rules than so be it.
You remember Cech had to get permission to wear his protective head piece after his head injury? so is not only about the muslims.
Big Up!
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low de gal dem nuh man
reggie
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Which part of a hijab contains a religous statement?
The hijab does NOT break that rule.
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I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Which part of a hijab contains a religous statement?
The hijab does NOT break that rule.
Good point.
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I agree with Fifa, you want to show your religion.. go to the mosque~! or stay home, dont play football .. go pray. sry i'm retarded like that lol
Besides if they are true soccer players football should be thier religion.
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Which part of a hijab contains a religous statement?
The hijab does NOT break that rule.
Toppa,
If you wearing a hijab more than likely most non-muslims will believe that you take your religion seriously and that it comes first. Most of them will not think you are a radical but they will assume(right or wrong that Islam is primary). It is like some Jews or 7th Day Adventists who don't work or play on the Sabbath. But there are some who work and play on the Sabbath and appear to be just as religious.
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A Hijab is a personal choice, no where does the Koran say they one must be worn. It just talks about dressing modestly so not sure how you can wear shorts and t shirt but must wear a Hijab
And no one has said where the line would be drawn......so would a full face veil be acceptable ?
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze
and guard their modesty. And say to the believing women
that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty;
that they should not display their beauty and adornments
except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they
should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display
their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers...(a list
of exceptions)"(Quran 24:31).
you right in a sense...but it never ceases to amaze me how some people does consider themselves good people and never miss a chance to fight down somebody else trying to the best of their understanding do God's will. God will love you more for fighting them down.
anyway, I sure the girls will accept that football is not the most important thing in the world.
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Which part of a hijab contains a religous statement?
The hijab does NOT break that rule.
Toppa,
If you wearing a hijab more than likely most non-muslims will believe that you take your religion seriously and that it comes first. Most of them will not think you are a radical but they will assume(right or wrong that Islam is primary). It is like some Jews or 7th Day Adventists who don't work or play on the Sabbath. But there are some who work and play on the Sabbath and appear to be just as religious.
And what???
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Well I dont see any non muslims wearing it ?
Then I guess Jews can wear skull caps ?
where does it stop ?
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Well I dont see any non muslims wearing it ?
Then I guess Jews can wear skull caps ?
where does it stop ?
You cannot wear ah Hijab but you can wear these vvvvv
(http://socceruniform.ca/images/intermillan_away.JPG)
(http://www.soccernucleus.com/ProductImages/torres_liverpool/Torres_liverpool%20jersey.jpg)
(http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/775/798/36/6IJhyQti6JOSDOC.jpg)
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Well I dont see any non muslims wearing it ?
Then I guess Jews can wear skull caps ?
where does it stop ?
You cannot wear ah Hijab but you can wear these vvvvv
(http://socceruniform.ca/images/intermillan_away.JPG)
(http://www.soccernucleus.com/ProductImages/torres_liverpool/Torres_liverpool%20jersey.jpg)
(http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/775/798/36/6IJhyQti6JOSDOC.jpg)
Off course you can have a cross PRINTED on the jersey, just like Turkey has on occasion use jerseys with the Star and Crescent and Israel with the Star of David. Morocco has a star on their jesey but I don't know what it signifies. Cruz Azul has a blue cross on their jersey. Where will it stop????
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Toppa,
Beer is beverage and is legal is most non-Muslim countries. Gambling, which includes horse racing, camel racing, dog racing and falcon racing, is legal in almost every country where those forms of gambling exist.
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dont be on inter.. use another team to demonstrate this bs nonesense that this is.
That is an old inter away shirt. The new replica dont have the cross on it. All those shirts you posted are CLUBS not INternational teams retardo.. jeezz when have you seen an international team sporting the sponsors at a major fifa tourny? NEVER.
As a professional footballer you have to decide for yourself which comes first, the game or your religion, they made thier choice. It is clear the rules, not like they going to win anything anyways might as well stick to thier religion and save themselves for thier husbands like the guys said above.
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze
and guard their modesty. And say to the believing women
that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty;
that they should not display their beauty and adornments
except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they
should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display
their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers...(a list
of exceptions)"(Quran 24:31).
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See you are bringing islamic views into football THAT we dont CARE about, WHO CARES? This is football the only thing that matters is who wins.
Lets say they wear whatever on thier heads and someone on the other team fouls them and it comes off.. what then? we have another war for football? might as well leave them with thier religion and continue to play ther beautful game
I was soo going to ignore this retarded stuff but you have to bring inter into the picture.. My heart is black and blue..
You know its not like Fifa implemented these rules to sabotage muslims, it is a dress code for crying out loud, leave that stuff at home or when you go to mosque or w/e. Wearing stuff to cover your hair and face you need permission to do that, how can we idenitfy who is on the pitch ? ask them to remove thier head top?
you right in a sense...but it never ceases to amaze me how some people does consider themselves good people and never miss a chance to fight down somebody else trying to the best of their understanding do God's will. God will love you more for fighting them down.
anyway, I sure the girls will accept that football is not the most important thing in the world
what the hell does this have to do with the price of coffee in china?
yYou would think wearing shorts would be the main issue here not a hijab, everyone is wrong and fifa should modify the rules to give muslims and extra advantage of shading thier heads forom the sun.
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wow have anyone else have tried to edit thier post and the box dont move with the cursor? very annoying, fix please :/
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The letter of the rule and the spirit of the rule are at variance. It's a shame the ladies can't take to the field.
I imagine if any of us were faced with this situation, in any tournament we organized or were involved in, we would let the ball roll. That would promote the game being the winner. Not sure that this outcome assists that.
Years ago, I played against some fundamentalist youths who were dressed from head to toe ... never occurred to anyone at that event to deprive them of the opportunity to play.
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01610/iran_1610091c.jpg)(http://i44.tinypic.com/2rfskde.jpg)
I personally have no objection to their kit
I hate to say it but I agree with FIFA on this
Law 4 states that “basic compulsory equipment must not have any political, religious or personal statements.
“The team of a player whose basic compulsory equipment has political, religious or personal slogans or statements will be sanctioned by the competition organizer or by FIFA.”
if they allow the Hijab where does it stop ? does that mean then that Christians can wear chains with crosses on them ? then what happens if a player wants to play in a full face veil ?
Article 3 ("Non-discrimination and stance against racism") in the general provisions states: " Discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punisha...ble by suspension or expulsion."
FIFA should practise what they preach. They'e effectively told Muslim women that they won't be allowed to participate in FIFA competitions. Imagine after all their hard work, they were kicked out because they were Muslims.
FIFA FIFA FIFA allya ent easy atall
let the women Play
or SUSPEND or EXPEL all of allya self
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If I had my way I will let them play also. But you know fifa and they rules.
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dont be on inter.. use another team to demonstrate this bs nonesense that this is.
That is an old inter away shirt. The new replica dont have the cross on it. All those shirts you posted are CLUBS not INternational teams retardo.. jeezz when have you seen an international team sporting the sponsors at a major fifa tourny? NEVER.
As a professional footballer you have to decide for yourself which comes first, the game or your religion, they made thier choice. It is clear the rules, not like they going to win anything anyways might as well stick to thier religion and save themselves for thier husbands like the guys said above.
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze
and guard their modesty. And say to the believing women
that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty;
that they should not display their beauty and adornments
except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they
should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display
their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers...(a list
of exceptions)"(Quran 24:31).
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See you are bringing islamic views into football THAT we dont CARE about, WHO CARES? This is football the only thing that matters is who wins.
Lets say they wear whatever on thier heads and someone on the other team fouls them and it comes off.. what then? we have another war for football? might as well leave them with thier religion and continue to play ther beautful game
I was soo going to ignore this retarded stuff but you have to bring inter into the picture.. My heart is black and blue..
You know its not like Fifa implemented these rules to sabotage muslims, it is a dress code for crying out loud, leave that stuff at home or when you go to mosque or w/e. Wearing stuff to cover your hair and face you need permission to do that, how can we idenitfy who is on the pitch ? ask them to remove thier head top?
you right in a sense...but it never ceases to amaze me how some people does consider themselves good people and never miss a chance to fight down somebody else trying to the best of their understanding do God's will. God will love you more for fighting them down.
anyway, I sure the girls will accept that football is not the most important thing in the world
what the hell does this have to do with the price of coffee in china?
yYou would think wearing shorts would be the main issue here not a hijab, everyone is wrong and fifa should modify the rules to give muslims and extra advantage of shading thier heads forom the sun.
So FIFA have no say in Club football? Is that what you saying?
http://cspinet.org/new/200606221.html (http://cspinet.org/new/200606221.html)
Shotta give me a f@#king break with yuh nonsense
That bolded part is the heights of ignorance.