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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Sam on April 10, 2010, 04:27:35 AM
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Koreans inflict 6-0 defeat on T&T U-17s
TTFF Media
South Korea’s National Under 17 Women’s team proved to be too much to handle for Trinidad and Tobago in the closing match of the three-match series at the National Football Centre in Paju as they turned out 6-0 winners on Saturday.
The result, an obviously disappointing one for the T&T contingent after their 3-1 win in the first match last week, was more of what the hosts had expected from the onset as they demonstrated just why they were crowned champions of Asia and are expected to pose as a threat in the FIFA Under 17 Women’s World Cup here in September.
Min Ji Yeo did the bulk of the damage with five goals and So Dam Lee got the other as T&T after being just 1-0 down at half time conceded their goals in the 12', 55', 66', 78', 85' and 89' minutes.
Pellerud, while mindful of the heavy defeat, maintained that the training camp served its purpose well and he was confident it would aid T&T’s preparations for the FIFA Under 17 World Cup in September.
"We ran out of gas after one half in this last game of the South Korean series. A strong first half ended 1-0 for Korea, and I am very pleased with good defending and a high number of well set up attacks. We continued to run thin on player options, too many players were not ready to play due to minor injuries - and we could not match the Koreans superior ball control in the 2nd half,” Pellerud told TTFF Media.
He added that the Koreans punished T&T for its lapses that may have easily gone unnoticed by Concacaf opponents in the previous 4Nation tournament.
“It might sound strange to see any kind of positives out of a 6-0 defeat, but there are good things to say about the T&T as well. The result does not reflect the match very well, as at times we matched the excellent opposition very well.
“The Korean team was undoubtedly capable of relieving some defensive errors that neither Mexico nor Canada could during the 4Nations tournament. They were good enough to make us identify issues in our backline. First and foremost our backline needs to play more consistent and solid, and with more authority! We are going to take steps in order to make this team unit stronger, and the coaching staff is already discussing our options.”
Pellerud did find the time to credit some of his players for their noteworthy contributions during the matches.
“On the flip side, some of our players have taken advantage of this series and stepped up their individual performances. Players that deserve to be mentioned are Goalkeeper Kari Myers and midfielder Victoria Swift; 2 players that matched our opponents in all areas. Also credit to Kayla Taylor who was providing attacking runs and crossball skills from the right side. As a team, we have seen our midfield improve on their ability to defend well and also their ability to attack with purpose."
T&T Line up
1. Keri MYERS (GK)
2. Camille BORNEO (DEF/CAPT)
3. Khadisha DEBESETTE (DEF)
4. Courtney BAHADURSINGH (DEF)
5. Rehana OMARDEEN (DEF) (75')/ Patrice VINCENT
6. Kayla TAYLOR (MF)
7. Tineisha COBHAM (MF) (45') / Jasmine Sampson
8. Khadidra DEBESETTE (MF)
9. Victoria SWIFT (MF)
10. Nia WALCOTT (MF) (75')/ Diarra SIMMONS
11. Jo-Marie LEWIS (FOR)
Scorers: Min-Ji Yeo (5), So-Dam Lee (1).
April, 10 - 2010
How Fentues eh do a report yet ?
Wonder if de coach go say jet lag still affecting us.
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Um shouldn't we be conceding less goals and scoring more kinda heading in the opposite direction aren't we?
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dem korean does have the same hair cut wtf
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:o :o :o
hhhhmmmm....ah guess the Korean got over whatever it was that was bugging them for the first game..... :-\
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But yet the Coach said he is satisfied with the team BEFORE this match was even played..http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=48921.0
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First post updated with the match report.
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We started these friendlies strong and ended weak steups.... Wait nah did the Koreans field a bogus team in the first game tuh see what we have and them bring on they big guns later?
These kinda performances are not acceptable..... there is no win in getting a 6-0 cut ass. Until each team , each player and each individual associated with each team that represents TNT begin to see that a loss is a blow to national pride, to the people of TNT to the jersey that they wearing, we eh making no progress; until we play with red white and black etched in the heart we eh moving upwards; until we approach each game as a battle , we eh winners. You watch the determination in them Koreans face; watch the will to battle for the ball; watch the 'first to the ball' when we begin to approach games that way then we see results. When our athletes become full time athletes and live and breathe the game then we moving forward. Until then, is more cut ass
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All yuh lay of them girls nah. How all yuh know them girls ain't trying their best. Maybe their best is not good enough. How can you guys compare our program to the Koreans. It is different. The Koreans team is certainly totally homegrown talent. Our team had two sisters playing on the team for the first time. Plus they have a couple other foreign on the team. The only way our team will gell is if they have them in camp and making tours from now until the tournament starts. That is not happening, Them girls have to go back to school. On the other hand the Koreans probably have their school in their football camp.
How can you tell the Koreans have more determination by looking at their faces? It appears to me that they are getting to the ball quicker than our girls. They are fitter and faster. They are just BETTER than us.
I did not want to comment on the first game. I just wanted to see the results of the other games. Well it tells me that the Korean coaches either told his squad to take it easy(they just had a long flight) or used a 3rd string team in the 1st game. A 2nd string team in the 2nd and the big guns in the last game. Just leave the girls alone. Just look at the state of mens footbal and you will see why our girls ain't ready yet.
Princesses. Keep your heads high. We know that this is a good experience for you. Learn from your mistakes. Everything going to be alright. God Bless. Jai Trinbago!!!!
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this f**king sad in 2010. the TTFF cyah buy winter/spring coats for the children? korea have to lend we. No offense but we look like Haitians? >:(
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Building a program takes time . T&T female football is relatively in its fetus stage compared with
the likes of Korea, Japan, Germany, USA, etc. Hopefully this generation will learn and contribute
in the future and we continue to invest in the next generation.
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I saw this coming thus my post about the Koreans up to their old tricks again. All yuh could ah ask meh and I woulda tell all yuh the Koreans had a dose coming in the two final games
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thank you Observer
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this f**king sad in 2010. the TTFF cyah buy winter/spring coats for the children? korea have to lend we. No offense but we look like Haitians? >:(
Bigger problem is how can we ever compete in a world cup held in any weather under 27c
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The Korean women under 17 have more male genes than the TT gyuls,the TT gal dem look like nice young ooman,cyah say de same bout the Korean. ;D ;D ;D
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It's easy to criticize when things not going the way it should with our teams but i want us to understand this is international Football,a lot of things we take for granted don't fly here.
The people who organize/arrange this tour did not give much thought to what they was in for,i don't think going to Korea at this time was a good idea,judging from the pictures it's clear to see the temperature in that place killed us,i wonder if they had dressing rooms,the Coach doing a chalkboard session outside as though they in T&T and you can see half those girls not paying attention,look at the Technical staff all in their warmups and those girls freezing on the ground.
You know Fenwick said something the other day and peeps jump all over him for it,we does win/draw games and come away like we win the WC when there are so much problems to be corrected,not because we win we played well,giving that false impression to players does nothing for their improvement because they will always feel they just have to do enough and will get bye.
Somebody talk about male genes,it seems we are the only team that don't have male genes,i don't think it's a matter of male genes is just that we are not physically prepared,we are not used to being roughed up and tough mentally.
I think Observer said it best in his post.
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this f**king sad in 2010. the TTFF cyah buy winter/spring coats for the children? korea have to lend we. No offense but we look like Haitians? >:(
Bigger problem is how can we ever compete in a world cup held in any weather under 27c
Nothing wrong in being loaned winter jackets. They only need it for the tour.
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I saw this coming thus my post about the Koreans up to their old tricks again. All yuh could ah ask meh and I woulda tell all yuh the Koreans had a dose coming in the two final games
I noticed your comment the last time. I askin? did they play a B team in teh 1st match? or a under 16 or U15?
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Building a program takes time . T&T female football is relatively in its fetus stage compared with
the likes of Korea, Japan, Germany, USA, etc. Hopefully this generation will learn and contribute
in the future and we continue to invest in the next generation.
You know how many years people saying this same thing. That fetus is ah elephant fetus?
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WAIT NAH !!!..why my soca princesses wearing Korean Coats ??
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My personal experience with the Koreans is that they will will never show you their real intentions in friendly games. They have a tendency to play their weaker teams early or set up an environment to feel out their opponents they the lay down the hammer when the time is right. So after the first game I was not surprised and I certainly wasn't surprised when I saw the other two results.
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My personal experience with the Koreans is that they will will never show you their real intentions in friendly games. They have a tendency to play their weaker teams early or set up an environment to feel out their opponents they the lay down the hammer when the time is right. So after the first game I was not surprised and I certainly wasn't surprised when I saw the other two results.
hhmmm interesting
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No scene.....de more dey sweat in peace time de less dey could bleed in war. Once dey learn from dey mistakes.
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Somewhere within TTFF programs there is systematic failure across the board(ALL our Teams), its always a FITNESS problem.
We "compete", but the end we get we tail kicked.
We WON'T win anything until we fit for the full game.
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this f**king sad in 2010. the TTFF cyah buy winter/spring coats for the children? korea have to lend we. No offense but we look like Haitians? >:(
Bigger problem is how can we ever compete in a world cup held in any weather under 27c
Nothing wrong in being loaned winter jackets. They only need it for the tour.
Yuh right, because a national U-17 squad will never ever again set foot in colder climes.
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It's easy to criticize when things not going the way it should with our teams but i want us to understand this is international Football,a lot of things we take for granted don't fly here.
The people who organize/arrange this tour did not give much thought to what they was in for,i don't think going to Korea at this time was a good idea,judging from the pictures it's clear to see the temperature in that place killed us,i wonder if they had dressing rooms,the Coach doing a chalkboard session outside as though they in T&T and you can see half those girls not paying attention,look at the Technical staff all in their warmups and those girls freezing on the ground.
You know Fenwick said something the other day and peeps jump all over him for it,we does win/draw games and come away like we win the WC when there are so much problems to be corrected,not because we win we played well,giving that false impression to players does nothing for their improvement because they will always feel they just have to do enough and will get bye.
Somebody talk about male genes,it seems we are the only team that don't have male genes,i don't think it's a matter of male genes is just that we are not physically prepared,we are not used to being roughed up and tough mentally.
I think Observer said it best in his post.
Good observations.
Some of the girls are equipped from head to toe in cold weather gear, and others not ... is this a reflection of players supplementing the national kit with their personal stuff?
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No coat either mean we under funded or ill prepared
does ketchin yuh ass build character?
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this f**king sad in 2010. the TTFF cyah buy winter/spring coats for the children? korea have to lend we. No offense but we look like Haitians? >:(
Bigger problem is how can we ever compete in a world cup held in any weather under 27c
Nothing wrong in being loaned winter jackets. They only need it for the tour.
Yuh right, because a national U-17 squad will never ever again set foot in colder climes.
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Somewhere within TTFF programs there is systematic failure across the board(ALL our Teams), its always a FITNESS problem.
We "compete", but the end we get we tail kicked.
We WON'T win anything until we fit for the full game.
If you really watch our games at all levels the players almost always look like they have a fitness problem but that is primarily because we do way too much running around chasing the game. Most of the teams we play dictate the play so we're always running after the ball instead of making the ball do the work for us.
We do not have an effective possession game so by the time the 75th minute come around we exhausted and tired, losing any real focus we had and probably looking at the time to see when the game will end.
Beenie was the best coach we had at teaching possession. We controlled the pace and thus wasn't running around chasing the game. When he left we resorted to what we know best.
At all levels we lack an effective possession strategy.
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Somewhere within TTFF programs there is systematic failure across the board(ALL our Teams), its always a FITNESS problem.
We "compete", but the end we get we tail kicked.
We WON'T win anything until we fit for the full game.
If you really watch our games at all levels the players almost always look like they have a fitness problem but that is primarily because we do way too much running around chasing the game. Most of the teams we play dictate the play so we're always running after the ball instead of making the ball do the work for us.
We do not have an effective possession game so by the time the 75th minute come around we exhausted and tired, losing any real focus we had and probably looking at the time to see when the game will end.
Beenie was the best coach we had at teaching possession. We controlled the pace and thus wasn't running around chasing the game. When he left we resorted to what we know best.
At all levels we lack an effective possession strategy.
Needs to be taught at the youth level.
When, why, where and how to possess? After learning that we can learn to manage a game, tempo, rhythm, etc.
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Somewhere within TTFF programs there is systematic failure across the board(ALL our Teams), its always a FITNESS problem.
We "compete", but the end we get we tail kicked.
We WON'T win anything until we fit for the full game.
If you really watch our games at all levels the players almost always look like they have a fitness problem but that is primarily because we do way too much running around chasing the game. Most of the teams we play dictate the play so we're always running after the ball instead of making the ball do the work for us.
We do not have an effective possession game so by the time the 75th minute come around we exhausted and tired, losing any real focus we had and probably looking at the time to see when the game will end.
Beenie was the best coach we had at teaching possession. We controlled the pace and thus wasn't running around chasing the game. When he left we resorted to what we know best.
At all levels we lack an effective possession strategy.
Needs to be taught at the youth level.
When, why, where and how to possess? After learning that we can learn to manage a game, tempo, rhythm, etc.
Yeah. Beenie had us playing really effective possession ball. The biggest mistake we made after the World Cup 2006 was not retaining him as Technical Director pay him top dollar for at least 4-6 years to work with coaches and players alike at all levels to get our football program on the same page and have a true philosophy.
At all levels we look like amateurs just chasing a ball around. Just hiring a coach for a specific team is just bandage work really. Our program need surgery because we not improving.
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Not to take this thread down a different path, but I read recently that possession was passe ... a phenomenon of one particular era of the game ... will retrieve when ah have a chance.
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The biggest mistake we made after the World Cup 2006 was not retaining him as Technical Director pay him top dollar for at least 4-6 years to work with coaches and players alike at all levels to get our football program on the same page and have a true philosophy.
There was no way we could have retained him. After the World Cup, he had too many better opportunities waiting on him. Our biggest mistake was letting Wim go. He was willing to work with the team and gave us the truth honestly.
We should have Lincoln "Tiger" Phillip take over the coaching job since he supposedly was the one behind Wim's sacking.
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Fellas I am sorry but I have a real problem watching our national team players in Korean jackets. Trini is hosting the World Cup in a few months. Teams can't take us seriously with this pic. Could you imagine the Koreans staff and players after lending us these tops. As a staff we must know ahead of time the climate we are going to be exposed to and be ready to deal with it. This should have been in place before the team left for Korea. None of us on this thread should be comfortable with this at all. What is also telling is the players focus. Look at their heads some of them are all over the place as Pellers is making his coaching point. As for the comments on fitness and this team. One of the down falls of playing direct is that it entails more running to stay connected as a unit. Imagine your back 4 launching 50-60 yards in the final third and the midfield having to transition to catch up with the lone striker or a fellow midfielder in a wide position. As the game progresses it leads to a very tired bunch of players especially those in Midfield. It doesn't help you are playing like that and your opponents are holding on to the ball when they gain possession because now as we all know is real chasing going on Being familiar with Pellers methods, I know he believes in the direct play. I am not quite sure if it will be suited to the players. A teams football should have elements of its culture. I am still rooting for them to do well though. Hopefully the lessons learnt in Korea will be invaluable
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I think the jackets might be a gift...and I would be happy with a gift like that.
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What is the big deal over a couple of winter jackets. It is only for the tour. Is not like they coming back to TT with them to sport in HCS. If anyone pissed about it they should vent their displeasure at the TTFF. They should have winter jackets in their closet for U-17 girls (and all national age group teams) anytime they make a tour to cold climates. You honestly think them go "waste" money buying winter jackets for a team for one practice tour.
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What is the big deal over a couple of winter jackets. It is only for the tour. Is not like they coming back to TT with them to sport in HCS. If anyone pissed about it they should vent their displeasure at the TTFF. They should have winter jackets in their closet for U-17 girls (and all national age group teams) anytime they make a tour to cold climates. You honestly think them go "waste" money buying winter jackets for a team for one practice tour.
Especially if that tour coinciding with an elections campaign timing....
Is no wonder the senior teams cyah play no practice games as yet too.
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Deeks is not the winter jacket perse, but the "preparation" we does do. Why go on this tour if you are not prepared to give the players every means to succeed? We just doing things for show. The girls and them freezing they arse off, yo think they worrying about playing football? If we doing it let us do it right and not halfway. Is better we did go to Costa Rica or Jamaica and play some games. After all the WC will be in a country where the temp. high right?
The girls and them never really had a chance to be successful. When players show up to play all them should be worried about is their performance on th epitch. They should not be worrying about off the field stuff.
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Elan,
First of all we should asking is why are we hosting this tournament? Is it because we have 4 stadia or we have plenty money or by they playing the WC, it would be a push start for women football in future. I want to believe it is the latter. I don't think the FF thought about whether or not our girls were good enough to perform at a high level. Ah mean, it nice to have the tournament in TT but our girls not good enough. Right now we still bringing players for overseas. They will have to adjust to a new system. They are in school in the US/Canada. How often can they practice with the team?
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Deeks this is your national team wearing the name of another country on their backs. Take a minute and try to visualize another country in the world doing that same thing. If they can't outfit the players with the proper gear for a tour then we wasting time. We can't think on the level well its only for a couple of days so why waste money. Its no joke to play and focus in cold weather. As Elan rightfully said as well we are playing the event in Trinidad. Why not get some games against teams in warmer climates. Anyway let me drop this issue. These are just some of little attention to detail I don't mix matters with in my present situation.
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On a serious note, Them girls should not be wearing no Korea Jacket. As much as men will say that is small thing that ent no small thing. If we national team could fly all the way to Korea to play three games, we can afford to buy them girls some stadium Jacket for about $50 dollars ah piece.
Adidas is we Sponsor we getting them jacket for small money. Less that a $1000 US all them jacket would ah cost. I seeing slippers and all kind ah thing in that weather. Did the managers inquire about the weather at all? If yuh notice all the staff in T&T gear though.. Long sleeve too.
Half the team from US/Canada them girls could ah have ah lil T&T jacket to "Flams" with ;D Anyway is Trini i guess that is not important.
I will tell fellers something on this forum. when I was playing college ball, ah man come to tryout as a walk on with ah Clemson shirt, not even Clemson soccer, but just Clemson. Well, Boy we coach run that real far. It's all about Pride. If i am representing my country/college at a tournament or what ever, there is no way i wearing something other that what i truly represent. Allyuh really figure them Korean wearing something that say T&T.
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I still feel all yuh making too big a deal over a jacket. I know all the pyschology involve in preparing a team properly. But with this admin. what do all yuh expect. All yuh know what kind of agreement Jack has with addidas? Imagine in this day and age. Men can't even do a cambia(exchang jerseys). . We wearing the same uniforms from last WC.
All yuh know how I feel about Jack and the TTFF, so it is not like I agree with this tour. But whatever Jack says, goes. He okayed the tour. You take what you get. The jacket is the least of them girls problem. At least they warm.
Jack and Manning is twins