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Sports => Football => Topic started by: spideybuff on May 25, 2010, 07:24:49 AM
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Pretty self explanatory. I know we are probably the most learned people in Trinidad regarding Jack's tricks. But at the end of the day, as Trinidad football fans, do we see Jack being able to help Trinidad and Tobago football even further as he is now the one with the government purse strings that he blamed for all that was ill in the past?
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Stealing money aside, i think that this could help Trinidad football...........
He now has even more resources to fund certain programmes/initiatives.....
ps: I SAID stealing money aside!!!!!
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i was thinking the same. Regardless that he would be even more richer, the TTFF will have endless restrictions. No more excuses about ministers not giving money for football. Hope he fixes everything everything before the coalition collapses. And keep the Trinidad money on Trinidad football. Not a cent should go to Fifa or the CFU.
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Jack not interested in programs and initiatives. He ain't making no money from dat.What he interested in is the national teams. In '06 it was $6m US just for qualifying. Now dem things attract Jack
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Yes I think it would be beneficial in terms of government funding of the TTFF as the tap open now.
We shouldn't hear no more excuses bout the TTFF brokes.
on the other hand could you imagine Jack in the papers handing Ollie ah big check for $50 MM for qualification expenses... you done know is really $80 MM the government will be giving and then $40 MM reaching back in Jack pocket... mama!
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Well firstly he would have to make back the money he spent on the campaign...and then he would see about the football.
I expect more of the same from Jack...more arrogance, more lies, more thiefing.
Let's see if he would still blame the gov't as an excuse for not having money, or if he would direct the necessary funds to the TTFF.
All in all, I can't see the footballers being any worse off than last week...might even be better for them.
As for them warriors who still fighting for they money...crapo smoke dey pipe now.
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The government cannot directly "run" football. I want to see how this going and work. Will JW continuie to be the spokes person for the TTFF/TTFA? Will this be seen as government intervention?
Our football not getting any better anytime soon, we just have to deal with it.
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The government cannot directly "run" football. I want to see how this going and work. Will JW continuie to be the spokes person for the TTFF/TTFA? Will this be seen as government intervention?
Our football not getting any better anytime soon, we just have to deal with it.
Well he is only a "Special Advisor" no more no less ::) so i expect business as usual
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Please yu'll see how football will pick up... he won his seat by the largest margin of any district, % wise... now that he hand in the treasury doh mean he stopping from supplementing his income through football...
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
U could make d Weekend Update on SNL.
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
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All the money in the treasury will not suddenly make TTFF competent!! I think the best that we can hope for is that now he has access to enough money to sign a top quality coach along the lines of another Beenhakker. Not that I have any problems with Latapy. He's just not at that level yet.
In reality I believe the only thing that will change is the reason for the lack of performance of the national team. He will shift focus to the coach and the players. And because he can't do anything about the players, he will keep changing coaches. He'll probably use his old standby of giving them a near impossible goal that they must achieve to keep their jobs (win the Gold Cup, win the Caribbean cup without any of your top players, etc.). However, the constant chopping and changing of the national coaches will keep the national team from progressing. Of course that will fuel his reasons for taking more money from the national treasury to fund football. Much of which will only go to his pocket. Of course under the guise of paying his various family business to provide whatever services he feels are needed by the TTFF and Trinidad football in general. Mind you, none of this money is likely to find it's way to the Pro-league. As a matter of fact don't be surprised if Joe Public becomes one of the founding teams in a new local professional league.
Before you can claim that funding is the reason that your program can't progress you have to a program or at least a proposal for a program. I don't believe TTFF have shown any kind of familiarity with any such animal with regards to the development of local football over the years. So Jack's access to the national treasury is not likely to improve the development of local football.
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Brazil 2014 my brothers, here we come. :beermug:
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The man is a crook.
And that's putting it mildly.
Jack anywhere near, far less for IN a position of power is no good for anybody but Jack himself.
This is yet another dark day for our country.
I congratulate Mrs Persad Bissessar on becoming our nation's first female Prime Minister
But she has amongst her inner circle Lucifer himself, and that cannot be a good thing for her, her party, the alliance, and the country in general.
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
You know what they say about the road to hell.
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
Empirical evidence points to Patrick Manning.
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The man is a crook.
And that's putting it mildly.
Jack anywhere near, far less for IN a position of power is no good for anybody but Jack himself.
This is yet another dark day for our country.
I congratulate Mrs Persad Bissessar on becoming our nation's first female Prime Minister
But she has amongst her inner circle Lucifer himself, and that cannot be a good thing for her, her party, the alliance, and the country in general.
The man who could not distance himself from a secret $30 million church on state lands up in Guanapo is also a crook. And in a position of power was doing no good for anybody but himself.
My faith in politics gone ah long time ago, all ah dem is crooks.
The man is ah thief, but he is the best administrator this country has known.
Give the man ah chance and lewwe see what he go do.
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
Arimaman,
What make you say TT football would not be as developed without him. As far as stadia, I agree. But honestly, our football is poor. Fan attendance is poor. Our WC performances are under par. Maybe it developed as compared to the CFU, but in CONCACAF where it matters we have been pulling stones for years.
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This forum is real tears,i just can't understand allyu.JW is the most hated man on the face of the earth on here,yet still those same peeps talking about how much money Football will get,if it had no money before the election it can't have any after the election.Football did not help him win his seat,it was used as a political tool against him,PNM,Jennings,Socawarriors blacklisted players etc etc Football is not the only sport that needs help financially so how could he favour Football?if you notice with all the hate he got the most votes is the election and it was not because of Football.
I sympathize with our fan base community,some of us like 24hrs our skin start to change already,we have so much opportunities to get rid of the man and all we do is old talk,just look back over the last four years the many battles that were fort with no results,we often interview the guys who did not accept money from the 06 WC but have we ever interviewed those guys who accepted the money and get their side of the storey?
PS...i will say Jack in power is not good for Football.
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The man who could not distance himself from a secret $30 million church on state lands up in Guanapo is also a crook. And in a position of power was doing no good for anybody but himself.
My faith in politics gone ah long time ago, all ah dem is crooks.
I totally agree on that.
If dat is what it take to oust one Lucifer...then so be it
Jes recognize it have a nex badda, eviler one right dey on Kamla shoulder
My poor country. What did we ever do to have 3 blight in de same lifetime as Manning, Panday, and Jackula?
Woe be unto we.
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My one hope is that Jack so ambitious and his reach is so much grander than the typical trini that he will use his new position in politics to scam the rest of the world and not the general populace. I hoping that he turn his gaze outward and see all the potential that it have in oil rich countries and the USA and them people and figure out ways to thief their money cause ours is pittance in the grand scheme of things..
That is my hope now...
Especially cause we treasury probably empty anyway...so he cah theif from us no more. Hopefully
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My one hope is that Jack so ambitious and his reach is so much grander than the typical trini that he will use his new position in politics to scam the rest of the world and not the general populace. I hoping that he turn his gaze outward and see all the potential that it have in oil rich countries and the USA and them people and figure out ways to thief their money cause ours is pittance in the grand scheme of things..
That is my hope now...
Especially cause we treasury probably empty anyway...so he cah theif from us no more. Hopefully
Brazil 2014 here we come, mark my words, same way i said we going germany, same way TT going Brazil in 2014.
football will be a major benefactor from now until hopefully the 2nd term.
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It will be interesting to see how long Jack take before he cause a comess with Kamla. Jack is not a good team player, he like to be in charge.
My guess is by June 15th some kind of Baccanal will start.
cannot see how this will benefit football, because if jack start putting money in football they first thing people will say is the Govt corrupt and they will not want to give that perception..
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It will be interesting to see how long Jack take before he cause a comess with Kamla. Jack is not a good team player, he like to be in charge.
My guess is by June 15th some kind of Baccanal will start.
cannot see how this will benefit football, because if jack start putting money in football they first thing people will say is the Govt corrupt and they will not want to give that perception..
the coalition is stronger than many think or know and there is alot behind the coalition, so this talk about 2 years or less is garbage, full term the coalition will go.
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It will be interesting to see how long Jack take before he cause a comess with Kamla. Jack is not a good team player, he like to be in charge.
My guess is by June 15th some kind of Baccanal will start.
cannot see how this will benefit football, because if jack start putting money in football they first thing people will say is the Govt corrupt and they will not want to give that perception..
The majority the UNC has means Jack has little to leverage with. He can't gangster the PM because he is just one MP. The PM could throw him out the gov't norms norms.
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
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Jack went from a schoool teacher to be VP of FIFA despite having the most infamous stutter in the world
Jack throw out Surj Rambrachan from Chaguanas and install a nobody, easy, easy despite not having the support of his party.
Jack went as a negro into the heartland of UNC and throw out and embarass their leader and founder Basdeo Panday. A black man do that, imagine that ! Not Ramesh and not Dookeran, a black man.
Jack is a big crook and and the whole country know that, in fact the whole world know that yet he still make himself more popular than Gary Hunt and Patrick Manning and win a national election.
After those things, it have nuttin i will ever say Jack can't do when it come to gettign his way so this talk about no leverage is nonsense. I not putting anything as being beyond Jack ever again.
TI...June 15th Jack will be in S. Africa so I feel the trouble will start after the world cup, man....or as soon as they announce the new cabinet.
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Jack went from a schoool teacher to be VP of FIFA despite having the most infamous stutter in the world
Jack throw out Surj Rambrachan from Chaguanas and install a nobody, easy, easy despite not having the support of his party.
Jack went as a negro into the heartland of UNC and throw out and embarass their leader and founder Basdeo Panday. A black man do that, imagine that ! Not Ramesh and not Dookeran, a black man.
Jack is a big crook and and the whole country know that, in fact the whole world know that yet he still make himself more popular than Gary Hunt and Patrick Manning and win a national election.
After those things, it have nuttin i will ever say Jack can't do when it come to gettign his way so this talk about no leverage is nonsense. I not putting anything as being beyond Jack ever again.
TI...June 15th Jack will be in S. Africa so I feel the trouble will start after the world cup, man....or as soon as they announce the new cabinet.
The Prime Minister will have the constitution on her side. She obviously has made some concessions already but I don't think he can bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do. I did before but that margin they have favours the Leader. He will be free to make a baccanal and buss scandal but the government will remain.
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Will Trinidad football benefit or only Jack? (Voting closes: May 28, 2010, 07:24:49 AM)
yes
no
makes no difference (please add this option)
I have not voted because we need a third option (makes no difference) to be added to the voting list!
Please sort that out Spideybuff and I believe that option will go clear! ;)
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It will be interesting to see how long Jack take before he cause a comess with Kamla. Jack is not a good team player, he like to be in charge.
My guess is by June 15th some kind of Baccanal will start.
cannot see how this will benefit football, because if jack start putting money in football they first thing people will say is the Govt corrupt and they will not want to give that perception..
the coalition is stronger than many think or know and there is alot behind the coalition, so this talk about 2 years or less is garbage, full term the coalition will go.
Give some examples of successful coalitions.
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not to stray from the topic at hand but im seriously tired of seeing you guys referring everything thing about the country to TRINIDAD.. Its Trinidad and Tobago.. Matter Fact the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago. If you guys cant come to heart to say that, just use T&T
As for Jack. Only time will tell his tales
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Will Trinidad football benefit or only Jack? (Voting closes: May 28, 2010, 07:24:49 AM)
yes
no
makes no difference (please add this option)
I have not voted because we need a third option (makes no difference) to be added to the voting list!
Please sort that out Spideybuff and I believe that option will go clear! ;)
Makes no difference is equal to no.
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Brazil 2014 my brothers, here we come. :beermug:
CO-SIGN WE ON LIKE A SOCK AND IN LIKE A LIVER
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The man is a crook.
And that's putting it mildly.
Jack anywhere near, far less for IN a position of power is no good for anybody but Jack himself.
This is yet another dark day for our country.
I congratulate Mrs Persad Bissessar on becoming our nation's first female Prime Minister
But she has amongst her inner circle Lucifer himself, and that cannot be a good thing for her, her party, the alliance, and the country in general.
LUCIFER was b4 d fall she bring in D DEVILLLLLLLLLLLL
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
Empirical evidence points to Patrick Manning.
CO-SIGNNNNN
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
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Jack went from a schoool teacher to be VP of FIFA despite having the most infamous stutter in the world
Jack throw out Surj Rambrachan from Chaguanas and install a nobody, easy, easy despite not having the support of his party.
Jack went as a negro into the heartland of UNC and throw out and embarass their leader and founder Basdeo Panday. A black man do that, imagine that ! Not Ramesh and not Dookeran, a black man.
Jack is a big crook and and the whole country know that, in fact the whole world know that yet he still make himself more popular than Gary Hunt and Patrick Manning and win a national election.
After those things, it have nuttin i will ever say Jack can't do when it come to gettign his way so this talk about no leverage is nonsense. I not putting anything as being beyond Jack ever again.
TI...June 15th Jack will be in S. Africa so I feel the trouble will start after the world cup, man....or as soon as they announce the new cabinet.
spidey my brother, you will be booking your flight to Rio for 2014, courtesy of Jack Austin Warner, allyuh watch and see the soca warriors destined for Brazil 2014 and as the former PM Mr. Patrick Augustus Manning has stated, at that point in time, " there will be jubilation throughout the land" sah.
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
so then why he blacklist players why have player been so unhappy with him since the 70's ??
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
its much more likely to happen with kamla than manning.
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
its much more likely to happen with kamla than manning.
WE WILL C. JUST REMEMBER SHE WAS AROUND WHEN VOTER PADDING 2 REMAIN IN POWER BEGAN
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
its much more likely to happen with kamla than manning.
WE WILL C. JUST REMEMBER SHE WAS AROUND WHEN VOTER PADDING 2 REMAIN IN POWER BEGAN
you mean the voter padding from the 70's with all dem Grenadians and Vincies ?? :devil:
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
its much more likely to happen with kamla than manning.
WE WILL C. JUST REMEMBER SHE WAS AROUND WHEN VOTER PADDING 2 REMAIN IN POWER BEGAN
you mean the voter padding from the 70's with all dem Grenadians and Vincies ?? :devil:
Yeah right does set a padding
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The Prime Minister will have the constitution on her side. She obviously has made some concessions already but I don't think he can bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do. I did before but that margin they have favours the Leader. He will be free to make a baccanal and buss scandal but the government will remain.
remember JahGol the COP, TOP and UNC decided not to contest seats together .. so that margin is not safety especially if the COP break away ...
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The Prime Minister will have the constitution on her side. She obviously has made some concessions already but I don't think he can bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do. I did before but that margin they have favours the Leader. He will be free to make a baccanal and buss scandal but the government will remain.
remember JahGol the COP, TOP and UNC decided not to contest seats together .. so that margin is not safety especially if the COP break away ...
cop not breaking away bro, thats a fallacy, pure post election garbage, this govt will last the full term
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When things going bad people does vote for change.
NAR back in the days
Obama
England
Now Trinidad
Global recession see to that result.
The only group that does do shit and keep they work is the TTFF
and that is because when they having elections you does only hear the results after the voting done.
Manning been in charge for so long he could have giving someone else a change to be in charge to being some fresh ideas.
Trinidad need some term limits.
Starting with the TTFF!
that coming soon..its part of the UNC coalition manifesto
WE WILL C
its much more likely to happen with kamla than manning.
WE WILL C. JUST REMEMBER SHE WAS AROUND WHEN VOTER PADDING 2 REMAIN IN POWER BEGAN
the same voter padding existed under dr williams, when migration from the islands were free flowing, ivar oxaal wrote vividly about this in detail and the birthrates of all ethnic groups. however dr capildeo and dr williams were apart of the bigger scheme of things with the foreign powers dividing and controlling the nation.
dont pretend like you dont know which party it started with.
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I am a bit baffled by what I am reading,I am 5000 miles away so maybe I dont know the full facts.I am wondering if the UNC/COP and others were not aware of JW as some sort of Lucifer,at least that is what I read.It would be stupid to accept certain people in your Party if you are aware of the character and attitude of that person especially if they could be a problem.I would also like to know if the UNC benifitted from having someone who weilds power world-wide,he is a big man and that is good for the UNC and not the other way round.If JW wanted to join the PNM would would he have been refused,I doubt it.
I have to say too,that our footballers who went on strike for money that was promised is the reason why our football went the way it did after 2006.Many of the players did not want to take part in the action but was forced to do so,for the good of our football greed should have been put aside for a while.What did those footballers expect JW to do,he would obviously teach them who is boss,you cant always "fight fire with fire",sometimes you must "stoop to conquer".
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The Prime Minister will have the constitution on her side. She obviously has made some concessions already but I don't think he can bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do. I did before but that margin they have favours the Leader. He will be free to make a baccanal and buss scandal but the government will remain.
remember JahGol the COP, TOP and UNC decided not to contest seats together .. so that margin is not safety especially if the COP break away ...
cop not breaking away bro, thats a fallacy, pure post election garbage, this govt will last the full term
hmmm don't hold your breath
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Football is the least of Jack worries for the near future. It's all about a new (and possibly inexaustible) revenue stream for him now. Allyuh feel Jack care about football? really?
I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
so then why he blacklist players why have player been so unhappy with him since the 70's ??
Your point is well take, however, that in itself doesn't mean he doesn't care about our football....
Always remember it is a disagreement within both parties, not everyone was blacklisted. JW's judgement and words gets the best of him sometimes. Not to mention, me eh saying the man is not a crook b/c that he is.
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The Prime Minister will have the constitution on her side. She obviously has made some concessions already but I don't think he can bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do. I did before but that margin they have favours the Leader. He will be free to make a baccanal and buss scandal but the government will remain.
remember JahGol the COP, TOP and UNC decided not to contest seats together .. so that margin is not safety especially if the COP break away ...
cop not breaking away bro, thats a fallacy, pure post election garbage, this govt will last the full term
hmmm don't hold your breath
in all honesty i know it will last bro, or else i wouldnt have said a thing. watch the ride
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I am a bit baffled by what I am reading,I am 5000 miles away so maybe I dont know the full facts.I am wondering if the UNC/COP and others were not aware of JW as some sort of Lucifer,at least that is what I read.It would be stupid to accept certain people in your Party if you are aware of the character and attitude of that person especially if they could be a problem.I would also like to know if the UNC benifitted from having someone who weilds power world-wide,he is a big man and that is good for the UNC and not the other way round.If JW wanted to join the PNM would would he have been refused,I doubt it.
I have to say too,that our footballers who went on strike for money that was promised is the reason why our football went the way it did after 2006.Many of the players did not want to take part in the action but was forced to do so,for the good of our football greed should have been put aside for a while.What did those footballers expect JW to do,he would obviously teach them who is boss,you cant always "fight fire with fire",sometimes you must "stoop to conquer".
So dem man was jus suppose to say nah it eh no big scene right now ent?! You songin like de type who if police lock yuh up mistakenly an yuh end up in jail, yuh go offer up some buttom even before ah man board yuh oui!
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I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
Unfair?? I cyah believe de shit I does read sometimes nah. Yuh know yuh's mih boy but ah think somebody slip sumting in yuh orange peel tea dis morning, cuz yuh talk A-grade assness dey. Anything Jack Warner do fuh TnT football he did it with ah mind towards making money. And best believe he done recoup he investment. No I didn't consult de seer woman and me eh no mind reader, but I does pay attention to facts and human behavior and all the facts and all ah de li'l "human" behavior left in jack tells me he only have one love, and that comes in different hues and varying denominations.
I willing tuh concede dat like young Anakin Skywalker there probably once some semblance of good resident inside he cold heart, but de powers of de darkside dun take he over long before he became Jack Vader and start f**kking up allyuh Trinis with he Jedi mind tricks. He make allyuh so bazodee that allyuh fuhget all de innocent lives he destroy, all de careers he manipulated, frustrated and truncated... and allyuh gorn and hand him de keys to guvahment now. Now allyuh wondering if TnT football go benefit??
As I tell ah man in ah next thread... football?? Allyuh feel Jack ever give a f**k about ah football?? Football was just a vehicle for he tuh line he pocket and now that allyuh hand him a government office it have real money to make now. Football??
steups
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The man who could not distance himself from a secret $30 million church on state lands up in Guanapo is also a crook. And in a position of power was doing no good for anybody but himself.
My faith in politics gone ah long time ago, all ah dem is crooks.
The man is ah thief, but he is the best administrator this country has known.
Give the man ah chance and lewwe see what he go do.
I want to know what kinda obeah metrics you consult to come up with that conclusion.
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I am a bit baffled by what I am reading,I am 5000 miles away so maybe I dont know the full facts.I am wondering if the UNC/COP and others were not aware of JW as some sort of Lucifer,at least that is what I read.It would be stupid to accept certain people in your Party if you are aware of the character and attitude of that person especially if they could be a problem.I would also like to know if the UNC benifitted from having someone who weilds power world-wide,he is a big man and that is good for the UNC and not the other way round.If JW wanted to join the PNM would would he have been refused,I doubt it.
I have to say too,that our footballers who went on strike for money that was promised is the reason why our football went the way it did after 2006.Many of the players did not want to take part in the action but was forced to do so,for the good of our football greed should have been put aside for a while.What did those footballers expect JW to do,he would obviously teach them who is boss,you cant always "fight fire with fire",sometimes you must "stoop to conquer".
You need to consult ah doctor as soon as possible... something must be wrong with your alimentary canal because it eh have no way one normal human being could talk as much shit as you juss talk.
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The man who could not distance himself from a secret $30 million church on state lands up in Guanapo is also a crook. And in a position of power was doing no good for anybody but himself.
My faith in politics gone ah long time ago, all ah dem is crooks.
The man is ah thief, but he is the best administrator this country has known.
Give the man ah chance and lewwe see what he go do.
I want to know what kinda obeah metrics you consult to come up with that conclusion.
You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
nope. just on this board
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The government cannot directly "run" football. I want to see how this going and work. Will JW continue to be the spokes person for the TTFF/TTFA? Will this be seen as government intervention?
Our football not getting any better anytime soon, we just have to deal with it.
Well he is only a "Special Advisor" no more no less ::) so i expect business as usual
Winning Post right here
Business as usual
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
nope. just on this board
All yuh suffering from amnesia
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Why does it pain so much to afford a man the recognition he so richly deserves?
Jack has done so much and done so well, not only politically, but in business as well. That his dealings may be suspect or immoral is a topic well discussed and debated and will not continue in this particular post.
What will be however, is Jack's potential benefit to our football.
Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?
Jack's affiliation (interference) with our football should remain unchanged. Do you expect Jack to throw sums of money in football's direction because his party has now been elected into government? Wasn't he doing that before? Or have we all gotten more greedy and are now mirroring the very trait Jack possesses that we claim to abhor?
For those who may not be so showered with the waters of knowledge, or those whose knowledge has been evaporated by the intense heat of ignorance, Jack does not need Trinidad's money. While he can do with it and surely will not refuse it...he does not NEED it.
Football will remain the same...the beneficiary of Jack's benevolence, via his personal wealth, or the beneficiary of govt funding (as in the previous administration) via his new found political power. Similarly, it may suffer ffrom the opposite.
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You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
Someday this might work as a moving eulogy at Jack funeral... but I don't see how any of that makes him "...the best administrator this country has known."
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Why does it pain so much to afford a man the recognition he so richly deserves?
Jack has done so much and done so well, not only politically, but in business as well. That his dealings may be suspect or immoral is a topic well discussed and debated and will not continue in this particular post.
What will be however, is Jack's potential benefit to our football.
Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?
Jack's affiliation (interference) with our football should remain unchanged. Do you expect Jack to throw sums of money in football's direction because his party has now been elected into government? Wasn't he doing that before? Or have we all gotten more greedy and are now mirroring the very trait Jack possesses that we claim to abhor?
For those who may not be so showered with the waters of knowledge, or those whose knowledge has been evaporated by the intense heat of ignorance, Jack does not need Trinidad's money. While he can do with it and surely will not refuse it...he does not NEED it.
Football will remain the same...the beneficiary of Jack's benevolence, via his personal wealth, or the beneficiary of govt funding (as in the previous administration) via his new found political power. Similarly, it may suffer ffrom the opposite.
Congratulations on winning Chaguanas West my Man
seriously: when I read this line I stumbled....please explain Thanks
"Haven't we benefitted enough? Whether negative or positive? Or are we all disguised hypocrites who have their hand out because 'daddy get a big wuk'?"
sounds like you promoting the "negatively benefitted" as a GOOD thing ???
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Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.
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You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
he got rid of the competiton dinho
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Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.
right!! ::)
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Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.
PAY DE PLAYERS DEY MONEY JACK !!!!!!
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You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
he got rid of the competiton dinho
The man league was very Popular indeed and Jack shut it down
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Benefitting from Jack is rarely portrayed as positive on this forum, hence my purposely apparently confusing statement.
Diamond,
you really smoke something.
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
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You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
he got rid of the competiton dinho
Is that not what war, politics, sport and business are all about?
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
Declaring that she not fit 4 public office. Watch d ride.
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
Declaring that she not fit 4 public office. Watch d ride.
hear de ride right here
Jack go tell Kamla
"All the drinks on Me, till 6am every day" :devil:
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
I eh know how yet, but he get rid of Panday so he could definitely get rid of Kamla...especially cause she not as surrounded with loyal subjects since it have men like Dooks and McLeod there with there own agenda.
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
I eh know how yet, but he get rid of Panday so he could definitely get rid of Kamla...especially cause she not as surrounded with loyal subjects since it have men like Dooks and McLeod there with there own agenda.
well I hope that she gets her own singular advisors as she will need them
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I am a bit baffled by what I am reading,I am 5000 miles away so maybe I dont know the full facts.I am wondering if the UNC/COP and others were not aware of JW as some sort of Lucifer,at least that is what I read.It would be stupid to accept certain people in your Party if you are aware of the character and attitude of that person especially if they could be a problem.I would also like to know if the UNC benifitted from having someone who weilds power world-wide,he is a big man and that is good for the UNC and not the other way round.If JW wanted to join the PNM would would he have been refused,I doubt it.
I have to say too,that our footballers who went on strike for money that was promised is the reason why our football went the way it did after 2006.Many of the players did not want to take part in the action but was forced to do so,for the good of our football greed should have been put aside for a while.What did those footballers expect JW to do,he would obviously teach them who is boss,you cant always "fight fire with fire",sometimes you must "stoop to conquer".
So dem man was jus suppose to say nah it eh no big scene right now ent?! You songin like de type who if police lock yuh up mistakenly an yuh end up in jail, yuh go offer up some buttom even before ah man board yuh oui!
:rotfl:
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I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
Unfair?? I cyah believe de shit I does read sometimes nah. Yuh know yuh's mih boy but ah think somebody slip sumting in yuh orange peel tea dis morning, cuz yuh talk A-grade assness dey. Anything Jack Warner do fuh TnT football he did it with ah mind towards making money. And best believe he done recoup he investment. No I didn't consult de seer woman and me eh no mind reader, but I does pay attention to facts and human behavior and all the facts and all ah de li'l "human" behavior left in jack tells me he only have one love, and that comes in different hues and varying denominations.
I willing tuh concede dat like young Anakin Skywalker there probably once some semblance of good resident inside he cold heart, but de powers of de darkside dun take he over long before he became Jack Vader and start f**kking up allyuh Trinis with he Jedi mind tricks. He make allyuh so bazodee that allyuh fuhget all de innocent lives he destroy, all de careers he manipulated, frustrated and truncated... and allyuh gorn and hand him de keys to guvahment now. Now allyuh wondering if TnT football go benefit??
As I tell ah man in ah next thread... football?? Allyuh feel Jack ever give a f**k about ah football?? Football was just a vehicle for he tuh line he pocket and now that allyuh hand him a government office it have real money to make now. Football??
steups
Nah man, we have to agree to disagree, LOL... While I understand your frustration and agree with yuh on some things like making money, genuinely, the man wanted trini football to progress.
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
well lets see ..first was dem fellas in the old TTFA ...then dem two fellas on de way up to concacaf Presidency , then Dooks, then , Panday, then Ramesh, a first salvo at wade mark ( who gone silent now ) de soca warriors who dared to stand up and demand their pound of flesh, gally, stuart Charles...Yup ..he have de experience and a long list of casualties to back it up ...." Cant we all say ..dont worry..Jack always finds a way ? "
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Jack always gets rid of the competition ... then he is the best around .... watch out Kamla !
how he getting rid of kamla?
well lets see ..first was dem fellas in the old TTFA ...then dem two fellas on de way up to concacaf Presidency , then Dooks, then , Panday, then Ramesh, a first salvo at wade mark ( who gone silent now ) de soca warriors who dared to stand up and demand their pound of flesh, gally, stuart Charles...Yup ..he have de experience and a long list of casualties to back it up ...." Cant we all say ..dont worry..Jack always finds a way ? "
Where there's a Jack, there's a Way!
Big Up!
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football and now politics in T&T are controlled by three people ....Austin, Jack, Warner !
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football and now politics in T&T are controlled by three people ....Austin, Jack, Warner !
Four....yuh fuhget he parrot. De No.1 Squalker
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To some of the posters on this MB,cant we learn to respect people's views instead of cussing dem,agree to disagree like civilized people.Jumping up and cussing me because I have a view is is a sure sign of ignorance.
We are in the year 2010 lets look at things different coz Trinbagonians are sophisticated and educated people.
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I am no JW supporter but let's be honest now. Trinidad football probably would not be as developed without him. I know I know, he eh the most honest person when it comes to money, however, he has done a lot of good. Truth be told, the man did mortgage his home in the early 80's to host those CONCACAF tournaments and he did put our football on the map. What we all don't like about him is his arrogance and his money hungry ways.
However, to ask whether he really care about we football is unfair....
Unfair?? I cyah believe de shit I does read sometimes nah. Yuh know yuh's mih boy but ah think somebody slip sumting in yuh orange peel tea dis morning, cuz yuh talk A-grade assness dey. Anything Jack Warner do fuh TnT football he did it with ah mind towards making money. And best believe he done recoup he investment. No I didn't consult de seer woman and me eh no mind reader, but I does pay attention to facts and human behavior and all the facts and all ah de li'l "human" behavior left in jack tells me he only have one love, and that comes in different hues and varying denominations.
I willing tuh concede dat like young Anakin Skywalker there probably once some semblance of good resident inside he cold heart, but de powers of de darkside dun take he over long before he became Jack Vader and start f**kking up allyuh Trinis with he Jedi mind tricks. He make allyuh so bazodee that allyuh fuhget all de innocent lives he destroy, all de careers he manipulated, frustrated and truncated... and allyuh gorn and hand him de keys to guvahment now. Now allyuh wondering if TnT football go benefit??
As I tell ah man in ah next thread... football?? Allyuh feel Jack ever give a f**k about ah football?? Football was just a vehicle for he tuh line he pocket and now that allyuh hand him a government office it have real money to make now. Football??
steups
:thumbsup:
Looking at the poll I see that we currently have 14 dotish posters who actually believe that Jack being in MORE power than he was previously will somehow benefit T&T football!
If that happens then it will be by pure accident rather than by design! 8)
Don't forget that T&T went to a World Cup in 2006 despite Jack rather than because of him!
To believe anything else is to be totally blind to the damage he has been doing to T&T football over the years!
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Is JW the most hated man ever in TT?
nope. just on this board
:thumbsup:
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You might not be a fan of Jack the person and you are well aware of his character. But as corrupt as he is there is not one person in power that works harder than Jack does, and there is no one whose accomplishments on the international stage can stand up against Jack's. Those are known facts.
If you can't give credence to what Jack has been able to accomplish for this country then more power to you.
As worried as I am about him in power, I have much more confidence in him accomplishing something in government compared to any of them incompetent administrators we've gotten used to.
he got rid of the competiton dinho
:thumbsup:
Tell him for us nah!!
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pay up bitch
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Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before
http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises
John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?
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Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before
http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises
John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?
yuh see this right here...
“We will try to keep that promise of ours,” Persad-Bissessar added. On the possible appointment of defeated candidates to ministerial posts, Persad-Bissesar said she was not of the view that persons who lost an election should be given a forefront posting in ministries. She said there would be places for them and they would have a role to play but not in frontline ministerial postings.
:applause: for that...
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Anil Roberts going and be Sports Minister.. I ent see it posted before
http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/05/26/new-pm-look-cabinet-surprises
John Sandy go be National Security... so wha Jack taking?
One report said Foreign Affairs