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Title: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 05:12:50 AM
France-South Africa preview (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=249722/match=300061449/preview.html)

With just a single point each after their opening two games, France and South Africa meet on Tuesday 22 June in the FIFA World Cup™ equivalent of a last throw of the dice. Although their respective hopes of qualifying for the Round of 16 appear slim, the fact remains that a victory for either Uruguay or Mexico in the other match in Group A would significantly boost the duo's prospects of progressing.

First and foremost, however, there is a question of pride. As tournament hosts, the South African players would love nothing more than to provide their adoring fans with a home victory, while the French are desperate for three points to avoid making a bad situation even worse than it already is.

The match
France-South Africa, Group A, Free State Stadium, Mangaung/Bloemfontein, 16.00 (Local time)

After witnessing their goalless draw with Uruguay and 2-0 loss to Mexico, many observers felt that France looked like a side bereft of ideas. Be it in warm-up matches or in competitive encounters on South African soil, Raymond Domenech has continued to make all manner of tactical changes, all to no avail. In what could be his curtain call as national coach, he may well favour simply revitalising the team rather than making further adjustment’s to Les Bleus’ formation. It would be no surprise then to see certain players more accustomed to sitting on the bench up to this juncture lining up to sing La Marseillaise in Bloemfontein.

In the opposing camp, the South Africans “want to exit the competition head held high,” according to coach Carlos Alberto Parreira. While their performance against Mexico in the opening match was commendable, the same could not be said of their subsequent 3-0 defeat to La Celeste. It is that result which will force the hosts to pounce on any chances that come their way against France, if they are to have any realistic chances of getting out of the group. Reinforcements in attack therefore look likely.

Players to watch
Moneeb Josephs v Hugo Lloris

The pressure is sure to weigh heavily on the shoulders of two players in particular on Tuesday afternoon. The services of Moneeb Josephs and Hugo Lloris, goalkeepers of South Africa and France respectively, will no doubt be called upon numerous times in a match where both teams have nothing to lose. The Bafana Bafana back-up keeper, brought in for Itumeleng Khune following his red card against Uruguay, could be in for a long 90 minutes. As for Lloris, he is in the privileged position of being one of the few French players to have maintained his pre-tournament form. He will need to be at the top of his game to avoid reopening a long-running debate over whether he or Marseille’s Steve Mandanda should be considered France’s undisputed No 1.

The stat
2 - The number of times that France have found themselves in the same FIFA World Cup group as Uruguay, Mexico and the host country. In 1966, the French were found wanting against those opponents in the group stage of the competition, failing to qualify for the next round. Does the same fate await them this time around?

What they said
“We’re focusing on the idea of winning the match, first and foremost. Scoring goals and hoping that the other result goes our way will follow on from that. The most important thing is to keep reminding ourselves that there’s still a chance,” Raymond Domenech, France coach.

“I always said that it would all come down to the final match. I don’t think we can hope to defend, wait for a mistake and hit them on the counter-attack. If we are serious about wanting to make it to the next round, we’ll need to take some risks,” Carlos Alberto Parreira, South Africa coach.

Voice of the fans
“Les Bleus haven’t scored a goal since the beginning of the World Cup. I think that it’s therefore unlikely that they’ll now somehow manage to score four. I hope that they can, but I just don’t see it,” - hhugo, FIFA.com user.

The question
Can France qualify for the Round of 16? Will South Africa become the first host nation to be knocked out at the group stage?
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 06:28:07 AM
Bafana win
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: spideybuff on June 22, 2010, 07:04:46 AM
Bafana, Bafana 3-0 !!

Vamonos Mexico 2-0 !!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 07:41:46 AM
So a real dilemma here. Not in the way I imagined.

Do we watch France vs SA to see the drama? To see if France will really try to knock the hosts out. Or if they will finally collapse and provide SA with a fitting conclusion of their campaign.

Do we watch Mexico vs Uruguay, which promises to be a top-quality fete match, with players looking to avoid cards and injury?
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: andre samuel on June 22, 2010, 07:43:28 AM
Well Evra and Malouda on de bench..........Cisse starting alone up front
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 07:49:53 AM
Diarra is the Captain:

Lineup:
G Hugo Lloris
CD-L Sebastien Squillaci
CD-R William Gallas
LB Gaël Clichy
RB Bacary Sagna
LM Abou Diaby
RM Alou Diarra
F Djibril Cissé
RCF Yoann Gourcuff
AM-L Franck Ribéry
AM-R Andre-Pierre Gignac

Substitutes
F Thierry Henry
D Eric Abidal
M Florent Malouda
F Sidney Govou
D Patrice Evra
D Anthony Reveillere
D Marc Planus
G Cedric Carrasso
M Mathieu Valbuena
G Steve Mandanda


Yeah, I decide to watch today's episode of "Dream Team"  ;D
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: ribbit on June 22, 2010, 07:52:55 AM
wow, it take a revolution to put govou on de bench.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 07:54:33 AM
wow, it take a revolution to put govou on de bench.

Gorcouff need to be sitting next to him.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 07:56:09 AM
So a real dilemma here. Not in the way I imagined.

Do we watch France vs SA to see the drama? To see if France will really try to knock the hosts out. Or if they will finally collapse and provide SA with a fitting conclusion of their campaign.

Do we watch Mexico vs Uruguay, which promises to be a top-quality fete match, with players looking to avoid cards and injury?

Luckily I can do both  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: D.H.W on June 22, 2010, 07:57:45 AM
http://atdhe.net/20610/watch-france-vs-south-africa
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:22:13 AM
OH shabalala  ;D

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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 08:22:26 AM
That goal is Anelka fault  :devil:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:26:57 AM
RED!!!  :o

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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 08:27:14 AM
Press Self Destruct!

Red card for Cisse Correction Gorcouff.

I say he shoulda be on the bench eh.
That was harsh though.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:28:42 AM
Press Self Destruct!

Red card for Cisse

Nah is for Goucuff

Big Up!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:30:31 AM
wow, it take a revolution to put govou on de bench.

Gorcouff need to be sitting next to him.

You got your wish  :D

Big Up!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 08:32:27 AM
somebody could desrcribe what just happen dey? mih feed real choppy. I know South Africa score and Gourcuff get send off ???
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:38:33 AM
And then there was 2  :o  :devil:  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 08:40:02 AM
That 2nd goal was Evra fault.
Anelka had a big hand in that too
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
What a save!

Big Up!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2010, 08:45:48 AM
Uruguay up 1-0!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
wow, it take a revolution to put govou on de bench.

 ;D
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: asylumseeker on June 22, 2010, 08:58:15 AM
somebody could desrcribe what just happen dey? mih feed real choppy. I know South Africa score and Gourcuff get send off ???

Sent off for throwing an elbow while challenging for the ball aerially. Turned perhaps on the angle the ref saw it from, but the ref was on top of the action. Tough for France; great stuff from a drama perspective at a WC. Another great day for soccer ... particularly so if Mexico goes home  :( :-\

For a fleeting second I thought the ref got it wrong and had tossed Djibril Cisse based on his attempt at a bicycle kick on goal that had marginal contact with a defending player.

Cisse was in extra agony over the ejection decision. Looks like a man in search of a goal, but he needs to share the ball rather than take the weight of the situation on his shoulders. French midfield has been a bit tentative in delivering service to him.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2010, 08:58:52 AM
I hope France leave without scoring. Dog side !
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: elan on June 22, 2010, 09:09:11 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 09:11:59 AM
So close to make it 3...oh my oh my

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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Brownsugar on June 22, 2010, 09:28:10 AM
Ok help mih out somebody....if the scores stay as is, South Africa will reach the second round right?? 
Ah mean ah would be happy for them but I would much prefer to see Mexico go through, they are playing some nice football....and they from CONCACAF.....
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 09:29:57 AM
Well France just messed up the plot  :(

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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 22, 2010, 09:30:19 AM
Ok help mih out somebody....if the scores stay as is, South Africa will reach the second round right?? 
Ah mean ah would be happy for them but I would much prefer to see Mexico go through, they are playing some nice football....and they from CONCACAF.....

No, they are a net -2 on GD behind Mex

Make that -3
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: elan on June 22, 2010, 09:30:32 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 09:31:59 AM
Nah ?
Ok help mih out somebody....if the scores stay as is, South Africa will reach the second round right?? 
Ah mean ah would be happy for them but I would much prefer to see Mexico go through, they are playing some nice football....and they from CONCACAF.....
Nah Mexico have a +1 differential, South Africa have 0. If South Africa score again, then they in

edit: now is -2 with the France goal (who score?)

edit: forget all ah that, Barataria right
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: mukumsplau on June 22, 2010, 09:34:07 AM
Nah ?
Ok help mih out somebody....if the scores stay as is, South Africa will reach the second round right?? 
Ah mean ah would be happy for them but I would much prefer to see Mexico go through, they are playing some nice football....and they from CONCACAF.....
Nah Mexico have a +1 differential, South Africa have 0. If South Africa score again, then they in

south africa on -2 and mex on +1...SA have rel wuk to do or hope uruaguay pull out dey hammer
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2010, 09:56:54 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
I really enjoyed this game  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Peong on June 22, 2010, 10:02:25 AM
france is a wreck.
Good for SA on a win over a big team.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: elan on June 22, 2010, 10:05:49 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Brownsugar on June 22, 2010, 10:10:40 AM
GOD DOH LIKE SLEEP AND HE DOH LIKE THIERRY "HAND OF GOD" HENRY!!!!.....It good!!   They must be dancing the Irish jig in Ireland right now.....
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: palos on June 22, 2010, 10:42:31 AM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Tallman on June 22, 2010, 10:49:50 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

Shadow does do it.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 10:58:12 AM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

agree. a yellow at best, which is why i doh understand what people was tryin to pull by bringing up dempsey in the usa thread.

but then again, France not going to get any sympathy from anybody this WC.

which other match this referee did btw?
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Jah Gol on June 22, 2010, 11:00:32 AM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC
FIFA start calling dem a while now. I'm not surprised he get sent off.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: elan on June 22, 2010, 11:24:09 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

Shadow does do it.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bourbon on June 22, 2010, 11:34:37 AM
Yeah was a harsh red.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: dinho on June 22, 2010, 11:35:59 AM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

Yaow, de rule is jumping with yuh elbows is a red card offence, whether or not its incidental.

What so hard for people to understand about that? Its not a new rule.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Brownsugar on June 22, 2010, 11:49:02 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

Shadow does do it.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: D.H.W on June 22, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
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Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: kicker on June 22, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
If you lead with your elbow you can cause serious damage- that's why the rule is as it is... Blame the dirty players who used to do it on purpose, and forced FIFA to become extra cautious.  

Gourcuff was unfortunate, but he led with his elbow in a manner which could be perceived as dangerous.

I think red cards are too cheap in football today.  To expel someone from a game, the offense should be really egregious.  A red card is a severe punishment...way too severe for most offenses which are punished by red cards...
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: soccerman on June 22, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

Shadow does do it.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: dais de bess ting ah hear fuh de day :rotfl:
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Spursy on June 22, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Mexico beating Argentina
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Observer on June 22, 2010, 12:29:23 PM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

Yaow, de rule is jumping with yuh elbows is a red card offence, whether or not its incidental.

What so hard for people to understand about that? Its not a new rule.

If that is the case we should have seen a red card every game, especially when defenders go up to challenge. I have seen the same thing on almost every game. Check the Dutch game it happened about 4 times or more. He did not THROW the elbow, which would have been intent. If that is a foul then South Africa goal on the header is a foul as well. Watch wherre his arm was
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

Yaow, de rule is jumping with yuh elbows is a red card offence, whether or not its incidental.

What so hard for people to understand about that? Its not a new rule.

Quote
This is the only part of the LOTG that I can find relative to such incidents:

Careless, reckless, using excessive force
“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or
consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the
danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned
“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off
Charging an opponent
The act of charging is a challenge for space using physical contact within
playing distance of the ball without using arms or elbows.
It is an offence to charge an opponent:
• in a careless manner
• in a reckless manner
• using excessive force

We can only deduce from this that the referee taught Gourcuff was using excessive force or he doesn't know the LOTG
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: soccerman on June 22, 2010, 12:43:41 PM
If you lead with your elbow you can cause serious damage- that's why the rule is as it is... Blame the dirty players who used to do it on purpose, and forced FIFA to become extra cautious.  

Gourcuff was unfortunate, but he led with his elbow in a manner which could be perceived as dangerous.

I think red cards are too cheap in football today.  To expel someone from a game, the offense should be really egregious.  A red card is a severe punishment...way to severe for most offenses which are punished by red cards...
Yea kicker agreed. Some of these red cards have been harsh to say the least. Players have always been taught to jump using your elbows to protect themselves same way keepers jump with thier knees up when going for a ball. If a player goes up swinging an elbow to intentionally hurt someone or is careless or reckless then a red card should be automatic.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on June 22, 2010, 01:28:47 PM
Too much talk and postmortem, tell dem pack dey sh!t and leave the people towels and tv remotes in the hotel room.

By this time tomorrow England will be on their way as well, enough of that sh!tty no brand football.

France fans - Deuces
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: kicker on June 22, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
Mexico beating Argentina

I guess anything is possible, but I highly doubt this.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: palos on June 22, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
Mexico beating Argentina

I guess anything is possible, but I highly doubt this.

Arguably, Mexico playin a better brand dan Argentina.

Just sadly for them, they have no strikers to complement their impressive approach play
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: fari on June 22, 2010, 02:04:36 PM
steups i vex...but u know what...france ent do nutten to deserve any sympathy from since before the WC co i guess the karma caught up to them.   i reallly hope blanc could whip this side into something resembling a team.  i glad they decide to let men like clichy, squillaci get a lil run out today...i find alou diarra had a poor game.   diaby had a good tournament as did sagna, toulalan and a few others.  
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 22, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Mexico beating Argentina

I guess anything is possible, but I highly doubt this.

Arguably, Mexico playin a better brand dan Argentina.

Just sadly for them, they have no strikers to complement their impressive approach play

all now it have men in Mexico praying that Jared Borgetti will dead and reincarnate inside Guille Franco...
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2010, 07:08:20 PM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

Yaow, de rule is jumping with yuh elbows is a red card offence, whether or not its incidental.

What so hard for people to understand about that? Its not a new rule.

There are a few ways a man could jump using his arms.  One is when you are OBVIOUSLY using your arms for leverage or balance, especially when you jump straight up in the air, and another, as in this case, is when you are OBVIOUSLY leading with your elbow, in some or most cases, to "take in front" and protect yourself in case the man jumpin' wit you trow a elbow himself.  The french man didn't need his arms to jump because he used momentum in a running jump.  He didn't need to lead with his arm/elbow and was appropriately punished.  The only thing that was "harsh" was the impact to the South African face.   
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: just cool on June 22, 2010, 07:13:10 PM
steups i vex...but u know what...france ent do nutten to deserve any sympathy from since before the WC co i guess the karma caught up to them.   i reallly hope blanc could whip this side into something resembling a team.  i glad they decide to let men like clichy, squillaci get a lil run out today...i find alou diarra had a poor game.   diaby had a good tournament as did sagna, toulalan and a few others.  
I real like this squillachi fella, he had ah real solid game, and cliche...... he's getting there. squillachi played better than gallas toulalan, and abidal. ah good came out of this thing, france got rid of all the superstars on the squad that was underachieving,and this worthless coach who never achieved ah thing.

this team kinda remind me of the TNT 97 team. we had latas , yorke, shaka, nakid, stern, el cock,just to name ah few and bummed!

they will be ah better team for it, and i predict ah good four yrs up ahead.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
I eh go lie, Hugo Lloris is a boss boy.  He mighta look bad on a coupla crosses, including the first goal (credit to dem South Africans, though, they was whippin' in dem crosses, especially in de first half) but he come up wit some huge saves to keep down the score today.  Another rel good 'keeper!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Bitter on June 23, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/EDrq1SM9f_o
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2010, 05:40:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/EDrq1SM9f_o

I CONVINCE D ELEVATOR EH MOVIN OFF GROUND WIT DAT FELLA.
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2010, 05:46:01 AM
This game show's how long FIFA hand is. I hope Mexico score and even up the game and France actually score a goal. That red card was nothing, maybe a foul. The ref was looking for something to call. Since then like he swallow he whistle. I won't be surprised that SA is given a PK.

FIFA at it's best.
I disagree , it was a good call.

Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

Shadow does do it.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: dais de bess ting ah hear fuh de day :rotfl:

D DAY D WC
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Brownsugar on June 23, 2010, 06:12:59 AM
Jump with out raising yuh elbow.

I doh know wha peeps on about nah.

Dey ackin like dey never play de game

EVERYBODY jumps using their hands to gain more lift.  It's NATURAL and NECESSARY

In such a case, there is BOUND to be incidental contact.  Gourcuff's incident was one such example.

There was zero INTENT on his part and the rule is that the referee would give a red if he deemed that there was INTENT.

Quite how the ref determined that Gourcuff intended to elbow the SA player is beyond understanding.

The ONLY INTENT on display in that incident was on the part of the referee.

PATHETIC

Yaow, de rule is jumping with yuh elbows is a red card offence, whether or not its incidental.

What so hard for people to understand about that? Its not a new rule.

There are a few ways a man could jump using his arms.  One is when you are OBVIOUSLY using your arms for leverage or balance, especially when you jump straight up in the air, and another, as in this case, is when you are OBVIOUSLY leading with your elbow, in some or most cases, to "take in front" and protect yourself in case the man jumpin' wit you trow a elbow himself.  The french man didn't need his arms to jump because he used momentum in a running jump.  He didn't need to lead with his arm/elbow and was appropriately punished.  The only thing that was "harsh" was the impact to the South African face.   

Referee Ramesh Ramdan was on CNC 3 last night explaining this thing.  He said that FIFA has told the referees that they need to judge whether or not the player is jumping for the ball and the elbow is not deliberate or that the player has no intention of going for the ball and the elbow is deliberate.

He said the referee was harsh on the French player.  He said a perfect example of a player who should have been sent off was the American some days ago.  His elbow was deliberate and malicious and deserved a red card.  I didn't see that incident myself but I know it generated discussion on here and elsewhere.

Just a 2 cents ah throw een the mix....
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Midknight on June 23, 2010, 08:54:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/EDrq1SM9f_o

I CONVINCE D ELEVATOR EH MOVIN OFF GROUND WIT DAT FELLA.

Apparently Parreira said that the French didn't deserve to be at the WC because of Henry's handball against the irish, hence the snub...

anyway, @sshole does as @sshole is
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: Brownsugar on June 23, 2010, 05:53:09 PM
Wait nah. I didn't realise the snub was soooooo blatant!!....ah thought was ah snub like the John Terry/Wayne Bridge snub that Dinho had up as he signature....

Domenech is a real kakahole!!!!
Title: Re: WC 2010 - Match 34 - Group A: France vs South Africa
Post by: asylumseeker on June 24, 2010, 07:28:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/EDrq1SM9f_o

I CONVINCE D ELEVATOR EH MOVIN OFF GROUND WIT DAT FELLA.

What was he pissed about?
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