England have ah hard road tuh pull with this game today... it's been a while since England went into a game with Germany where the Germans were so clearly superior. From front to back I'd have to give the Germans the edge... except at striker of course (Rooney) and perhaps midfield (Gerrard and Lampard). Aside from that the Germans have the edge at every position, including a younger, more athletic and steadier keeper in Neuer, compared to David James.
Regardless... we still supporting England :beermug:
England have ah hard road tuh pull with this game today... it's been a while since England went into a game with Germany where the Germans were so clearly superior. From front to back I'd have to give the Germans the edge... except at striker of course (Rooney) and perhaps midfield (Gerrard and Lampard). Aside from that the Germans have the edge at every position, including a younger, more athletic and steadier keeper in Neuer, compared to David James.
Regardless... we still supporting England :beermug:
Who is "we"??....steups....FYAH BUN SHIT FOOTBALL!! :flamethrower:
GO GERMANY!!! :challenge: :duel: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:
England have ah hard road tuh pull with this game today... it's been a while since England went into a game with Germany where the Germans were so clearly superior. From front to back I'd have to give the Germans the edge... except at striker of course (Rooney) and perhaps midfield (Gerrard and Lampard). Aside from that the Germans have the edge at every position, including a younger, more athletic and steadier keeper in Neuer, compared to David James.
Regardless... we still supporting England :beermug:
England have ah hard road tuh pull with this game today... it's been a while since England went into a game with Germany where the Germans were so clearly superior. From front to back I'd have to give the Germans the edge... except at striker of course (Rooney) and perhaps midfield (Gerrard and Lampard). Aside from that the Germans have the edge at every position, including a younger, more athletic and steadier keeper in Neuer, compared to David James.
Regardless... we still supporting England :beermug:
Bakes ah feel you kicks posting this on this forum.
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James is a cant, Steuppps!!!!!
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Anyone on here notice the T&T flag draped over the advertising board behind the England goal?
I wonder who put that flag there?
Anyway, horrible defending on the England goal, the defenders and Davi James were at fault.
Horrible f**king defending on that goal. Terry and Upson can't sort themselves out... then James hesitate and get breed.
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2-0 Well yes. England in total dissaray at the back. Hoooolllly shit.
The revenge of 1966
That was a flikin goal!!!
Look bacchanal now!
Use the ball with the facking chip!!!
England robbed...this is getting outta hand. Video replays, add'l officials, something... The game needs it for plays like this.
Germany got a gift on that call
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
Aye, " The Hand of Crouch ". Need I say more. Have we forgotten.
Dis is messed up and ah want england geh a cutarse, serious disgrace to de game
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
What he was doing trailing the play anyways? Everything was taking place right outside the box... he needed to be better positioned.
f**king Robbed....great response by England though...45 more to go...epic game
f**king Robbed....great response by England though...45 more to go...epic game
Look who come out from dey frikkin hole... ;D
f**king Robbed....great response by England though...45 more to go...epic game
i glad he still alive....i doh like england but goal is goal...hope germany score a good goal that is disallowed to balance tings out.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
FIFA and credibility don't go hand-in-hand. This is why goal line technology is so slow in coming. It will take an incident like this to happen to the usa before FIFA really start moving their feet about it.
Germany got a gift on that call
Understatement of the year. Germany has gotten gifts on every major call so far this game. Not saying the refs cheating... fate just seems aligned with Germany so far.
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
What he was doing trailing the play anyways? Everything was taking place right outside the box... he needed to be better positioned.
England get lucky with a fair few calls too. Cole coulda get a yellow card easily.
All who calling England ah shit side hush allyuh mudda ass. England come to play ball but if wasn't fuh bad luck we wouldn't have any luck at all. Germany benefitting from every break in this game so far but ah doh think that will hold up thru de end. Also, ah think that big oaf Friedrich good fuh another yellow... he climbing Defoe spine every time the ball is played to him in the middle. Watch him get send off.
Daiz shit the ball cross the line by at least a foot.
The linesman was to far behind the play to call it.
The big joke is that FIFA will publicly criticize the officials for not getting it right.
What he was doing trailing the play anyways? Everything was taking place right outside the box... he needed to be better positioned.
The linesman was right in line with the play on the edge of the penalty box. He was not trailing the play.
The linesman was right in line with the play on the edge of the penalty box. He was not trailing the play.
Men does repeat whatever they hear the commentator say.
You must take the commentator word cause yuh eye in yuh backside.Men does repeat whatever they hear the commentator say.
And you does listen to whatever bubbling sound does be coming out yuh backside... I will certainly take the commentator's word on the linesman positioning than yours.
The linesman was right in line with the play on the edge of the penalty box. He was not trailing the play.
I haven't seen a replay to see exactly where the linesman was, not sure how you could say where he was lined up. The announcers said he was trailing the play. The shot was taken in traffic just at the top of the box... he should be in line with the last defender... who was inside the box. His job isn't to be where the play is, it's to be where the last defender is.
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Bakes...England is a...
SHIT SIDE
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Game Over !..England defence in shambles and they looking like a 2nd tier team to me, NOT a powerhouse!..England just like Uruguay have won World Cups LONG time ago..but ubnike Uruguay the English media still rating their team as one of the best on the world. Time fuh dem to stop living in denial.. PAST
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Correction
FOUR!!!!
England get lucky with a fair few calls too. Cole coulda get a yellow card easily.
You seriously trying to compare a possible yellow card to three blown calls on goal-scoring opportunities? Okay Defoe hit the crossbar... but Rooney was in alone on goal and Klose was standing offside when the pass was made on his goal. What other calls England get?
Let me reiterate:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
England is a
PHOQING SHIT SIDE
:devil: :rotfl:
Brilliant move Capello>>>bring on Heskey the saviour.
Look Germany benefit on the break again Bakes.
You know exactly nothing I tell you.
Momentum in the game, game management. Make England play and then kick them.
Look Germany benefit on the break again Bakes.
You know exactly nothing I tell you.
Momentum in the game, game management. Make England play and then kick them.
I forget who I talking to... you and yuh team of menstruating schoolgirls. I guess they needed somebody with experience in dem kinda things to coach and mentor them. Yuh reach yuh level... yet sqawking about who know what from who doh know... de fack Germany counter-attacking on the break have to do with the talk about the linesman positioning? Eh coach?
You can't be serious. What part of Klose was offside when the goalie punted the ball?The part of him that was standing a full foot behind the defender when the ball left Neuer foot strike. Maybe yuh should look at the replay again and see fuh yuhself, since yuh watching positioning so close.
Why did they take Milner off?
Rooney score yet? :devil::rotfl:
Prince and he bredda doh look nuttin alikeYeah daiz a love triangle going on there.
Look Germany benefit on the break again Bakes.
You know exactly nothing I tell you.
Momentum in the game, game management. Make England play and then kick them.
I forget who I talking to... you and yuh team of menstruating schoolgirls. I guess they needed somebody with experience in dem kinda things to coach and mentor them. Yuh reach yuh level... yet sqawking about who know what from who doh know... de fack Germany counter-attacking on the break have to do with the talk about the linesman positioning? Eh coach?
This is ah hard luck for England.
If that goal that crossed the line was given, this would have been an entirely different game in the second half.
England woul not have had to take as many risksgoing forward an most likely would not have conceded two goals on the break.
What de mudders! I went to drop my wife to work and I come back and it's 4-1 ???
All you could do is come up with some school yard come back. I still know more than you about soccer. Don't need to parrot a commentator.
Or you was talking about the goal being disallowed, my bad. See that I have balls big enough to say I wrong.
Anyone who know anything about football know that even if the 2nd goal was allowed that eh affecting the Germans, they knew the game was theirs to lose from the minute they started playing.
What de mudders! I went to drop my wife to work and I come back and it's 4-1 ???
Dais why during the World Cup yuh doh leave the TV!!.... ;D
The difference between England and Germany is stark and that is why England is, in common parlance "a shit side". Both teams have similar talent but Germany clearly has a plan where as England does not.I'm seeing a clear gulf in quality. The Germans are a whole lot more comfortable with the ball at their feet and look a lot more intelligent moving forward. The German defense is just better than England. Don't get me wrong it was a real shitty call but Germany are well worth their 4 goals.
Germany gets the ball in defence and they have a clear plan to break out.
England gets it and James has to look around and make something up. I shouldn't say that England doesn't have a plan because the plan is clearly to focus on set plays and get the ball crossed in from the right. Not a bad idea but that can't be the whole game.
What you see with Germany is some inventiveness t break though England twin defensive banks, when Germany lines up their same 9 defenders England can't break through the middle, except for a short while before goals 3 and 4 where they were making some diagonal runs.
All you could do is come up with some school yard come back. I still know more than you about soccer. Don't need to parrot a commentator.
Or you was talking about the goal being disallowed, my bad. See that I have balls big enough to say I wrong.
Anyone who know anything about football know that even if the 2nd goal was allowed that eh affecting the Germans, they knew the game was theirs to lose from the minute they started playing.
Like I say, you reach yuh level... if that goal had been properly awarded it would have been a totally different game. Germany ent outplay England the way allyuh making it seem, England created just as many opportunities... the difference has been those two breakaway goals which likely would never have happened if England wasn't gambling to get even by leaving themselves vulnerable to the break.
I can't find the pictures fast enough
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someone need to check to see if Small Mag still alive yes :D
From what I seein here,Ghana culda tek 0out de bote ah dem.
Daiz if de reff doh give way no KEY ENTITLEMENT CALLS !
You can't always get what you want !
My 1 penny.
A well televised league and their players cyah show up in the world cup, what a shame !
Brownsuga did you say biasness ?..lawd allyuh doh have mirrors ;D
From what I seein here,Ghana culda tek 0out de bote ah dem.
Daiz if de reff doh give way no KEY ENTITLEMENT CALLS !
You can't always get what you want !
My 1 penny.
i feel so too boy but i was fraid to say it...ghana have to play disciplined, dey have to give johnathan a purge 2 days before de game so he dont toots down de place. with good service gyan could give friedrich and dem real thunda.
What de mudders! I went to drop my wife to work and I come back and it's 4-1 ???
I can't find the pictures fast enough
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OH LAWWWWWWWWWD!!! What I would give to be in Germany again right now! ::)
Brownsuga did you say biasness ?..lawd allyuh doh have mirrors ;D
Yes I bias against the US, but I did recognise their strengths and willed Ghana on with that in the back of my mind.....and for folks who crying over the disallowed goal, let's say it was 2 - 2.....all yuh realise the game ending with Germany scoring 4 right??
Again I say, English defence was suspect from the first whistle....Germany was going to destroy that eventually....
GERMANY IN DEY $#%$%#&!!! English fans go and cry in all yuh beer...
Its the end of shit football as we know it!!!! THANK YOU LAWD!!!!
down 4-1 why capello brought on heskey for defoe, if he really wanted to bring on heskey leave yuh forwards on....bring on heskey for barry, i would have even taken off upson and bring on lennon....go all out...yuh cant lose 1 game twice.
Shit side is shit side! England and their fans delusional if they really think England has the skills and the same football acumen s the Germans! Can't wait for the excuses!
Argentina is not a shit side but time for dem and Spain tuh go too! Let the hate continue!
Ask small mag where this saviour from Manu....wha he name is Shrek?
where he was for the 4 games England play.
Bakes, the English defence was suspect from the first whistle and it will be when the game done.....Germany has the capability to mash up dat defence.....if yuh put aside yuh biasedness for one second yuh would recognise that....
Say wha yuh choose to back a shit side and well.....
GERMANY IN DEY &*^^%$$#!!!
Shit side is shit side! England and their fans delusional if they really think England has the skills and the same football acumen s the Germans! Can't wait for the excuses!
Argentina is not a shit side but time for dem and Spain tuh go too! Let the hate continue!
I can't find the pictures fast enough
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OH LAWWWWWWWWWD!!! What I would give to be in Germany again right now! ::)
Nah, ah think she is in SA!
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and to be fair two more for the 2 England goals
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Shit side is shit side! England and their fans delusional if they really think England has the skills and the same football acumen s the Germans! Can't wait for the excuses!
Argentina is not a shit side but time for dem and Spain tuh go too! Let the hate continue!
yuh not saving no hate fuh the T&T team ?..when we playing ? :D
The linesman was right in line with the play on the edge of the penalty box. He was not trailing the play.
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Rooney score yet? :devil:
Rooney score yet? :devil:
allyuh fellas evil oui :D...so where all de EPL jumbies ?....
DAT IS AH CUTARSE BOY WEYS......
DAT IS AH CUTARSE BOY WEYS......
Aye, aye....yuh cyar show up in the next thread but yuh sneak een this one....yuh eh have no damn shame....
Maybe, FIFA may feel sorry for England and award them the World Cup in 2018.
DAT IS AH CUTARSE BOY WEYS......
Aye, aye....yuh cyar show up in the next thread but yuh sneak een this one....yuh eh have no damn shame....
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You can't be serious. What part of Klose was offside when the goalie punted the ball?The part of him that was standing a full foot behind the defender when the ball left Neuer foot strike. Maybe yuh should look at the replay again and see fuh yuhself, since yuh watching positioning so close.
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hear nah ah eh goh lie....I enjoy this World Cup weekend, ah love this tournament too bad....and nobody cyar accuse mih for once for blighting any team....yuh hear dat Bourbon?? ;D ;D
Rooney score yet? :devil:
allyuh fellas evil oui :D...so where all de EPL jumbies ?....
Messi score yet?
The linesman was right in line with the play on the edge of the penalty box. He was not trailing the play.
I just see the replay... yuh right, the linesman was in the right position. As I said earlier I didn't see the replay and was going on the word of the commentator. Can't really fault him on that, but still a hardluck play from England's perspective.
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Hear nah ah eh goh lie....I enjoy this World Cup weekend, ah love this tournament too bad....and nobody cyar accuse mih for once for blighting any team....yuh hear dat Bourbon?? ;D ;D
You can't be serious. What part of Klose was offside when the goalie punted the ball?The part of him that was standing a full foot behind the defender when the ball left Neuer foot strike. Maybe yuh should look at the replay again and see fuh yuhself, since yuh watching positioning so close.
Its simple you cannot be offside from a goalkick. Obviously Germany knew the laws and England did not. Talk done!
Oezil is not Usain Bolt :rotfl: Mcnaman good kill me here yes :rotfl:
Oezil is not Usain Bolt :rotfl: Mcnaman good kill me here yes :rotfl:
Notice how honest he was in his assessment of the enlish team too eh.....
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100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
Yuh wasting yuh time, Observer....dat is de same know-it-all yuh schoolin' that didn't know yuh couldn't be offside on a throw-in. Careful he doh tell yuh yuh don't know nutting!
Yuh wasting yuh time, Observer....dat is de same know-it-all yuh schoolin' that didn't know yuh couldn't be offside on a throw-in. Careful he doh tell yuh yuh don't know nutting!
When have you EVER seen me argue about offside on a throw-in?? Everybody know yuh can't be offside on a throw in or a corner kick. I have no problems admitting saying that I just learning about the goal-kick rule.
Maybe, FIFA may feel sorry for England and award them the World Cup in 2018.
Good...then they wouldn't have far to travel when they get the cut arse!!!
GERMANY IN DEY $%^$%&!!
f**king Robbed....great response by England though...45 more to go...epic game
What going on in de Magician's household dis mawnin? You is ah big time England fan, and yuh fadda is ah big time Germany and England fan. One ah allyuh go hadda leave de house. :devil:
Again...yuh not serious.
Rooney set ups a goal yet?
Had a good game yet?
Is in Golden Ball consideration yet?
If yuh feel Messi having a bad WC because he ent score yet yuh missing a lot.
I eh sayin you argued it....I simply remember a thread where you displayed your lack of knowledge of it and it wasn't that long ago, either........but I eh going and dig it up.
Germany were clearly the better team coming in, I dunno what shit JDB talking about both teams being equal in talent. Germany have a wealth of options of front and have more cohesive mid-field play, even if we were to give Lampard and Gerrard the edge on individual talent over Ozul, Schweinsteiger Podolski et al... which is a dicey call. Let's not even talk about the defensive backline of both teams.
Me eh really care, I still supporting my side win or lose.
I judge talent by who tackle,trap, pass , dribble and shoot better . Clearly Germany has more talent than England especially going forward. No disrespect to Rooney.Germany were clearly the better team coming in, I dunno what shit JDB talking about both teams being equal in talent. Germany have a wealth of options of front and have more cohesive mid-field play, even if we were to give Lampard and Gerrard the edge on individual talent over Ozul, Schweinsteiger Podolski et al... which is a dicey call. Let's not even talk about the defensive backline of both teams.
Me eh really care, I still supporting my side win or lose.
Talent is a measure of individual players. Clearly Germany are a better team but their is no gulf if you sum the individuals. For example so say that the defences are not comparable but Friedrich, Mertesacker and Boateng are not head and shoulders above Cole, Terry and Upson. But they play better together, and based on the first goal they obviously communicate better. Likewise Ozil, Podolski and co are more exciting prospects but the plays they make are no different to what England players do at their clubs or sporadically for England. England just is not a good enough team for the players to make each other better. That is why this England crop usually looks worse in a tournament setting than club and German players are the opposite. Part of it is mentality and the over-dependence on the crossball but they have the talent to do otherwise, they just don't do it.
This is nothing new for England and Germany. Neither of them are Brazil or Argentina in terms of ability but the Germans always outplay the English in the big games (with a few exceptions).
Germany is an excellent tournament team. When those players get into a 2 or 3 week camp you always see a marked improvement on the team that showed up in qualifying. They are more disciplined, more intelligent, more versatile and absorb drills and tactics better than most other players certainly better than England.
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100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
Talent is a measure of individual players. Clearly Germany are a better team but their is no gulf if you sum the individuals. For example so say that the defences are not comparable but Friedrich, Mertesacker and Boateng are not head and shoulders above Cole, Terry and Upson. But they play better together, and based on the first goal they obviously communicate better. Likewise Ozil, Podolski and co are more exciting prospects but the plays they make are no different to what England players do at their clubs or sporadically for England. England just is not a good enough team for the players to make each other better. That is why this England crop usually looks worse in a tournament setting than club and German players are the opposite. Part of it is mentality and the over-dependence on the crossball but they have the talent to do otherwise, they just don't do it.
This is nothing new for England and Germany. Neither of them are Brazil or Argentina in terms of ability but the Germans always outplay the English in the big games (with a few exceptions).
Germany is an excellent tournament team. When those players get into a 2 or 3 week camp you always see a marked improvement on the team that showed up in qualifying. They are more disciplined, more intelligent, more versatile and absorb drills and tactics better than most other players certainly better than England.
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
ENT!!?!?! Sando prince WHAT DE ASS YOU SMOKING!?!?! Where the hell were you when Crouch screwed us in Nuremberg when he pulled Sancho's hair to score the first goal eh???
Again...yuh not serious.
Rooney set ups a goal yet?
Had a good game yet?
Is in Golden Ball consideration yet?
If yuh feel Messi having a bad WC because he ent score yet yuh missing a lot.
Where have you seen me say Messi having a bad World Cup?
The focus has been on Rooney not scoring, but Rooney cannot do it by himself. Yuh can't set up goal if yuh team not scoring goals. England score a total of three goals this tournament. THREE. How is that Rooney's fault?
Put Rooney on Argentina and put Messi on England and Messi would be just as invisible while Rooney probably would have scored already. How many scoring opportunities has England had compared to Argentina? Rooney relies on service from midfield, precisely where England has had their offensive struggles. So much so tht Rooney has been dropping further and further back to try and become involved. He's had to work twice as hard as Messi to compensate for the lack of opportunities, and lack of talent around him. Is not like he's been invisible, he just hasn't factored much into the offense but he hustling and helping in other areas. Messi and the other so-called stars haven't had to do that.
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee make decisions..
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
What ...LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
ENT!!?!?! Sando prince WHAT DE ASS YOU SMOKING!?!?! Where the hell were you when Crouch screwed us in Nuremberg when he pulled Sancho's hair to score the first goal eh???
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee make decisions..
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
What ...LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
ENT!!?!?! Sando prince WHAT DE ASS YOU SMOKING!?!?! Where the hell were you when Crouch screwed us in Nuremberg when he pulled Sancho's hair to score the first goal eh???
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee make decisions..
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
In what part of the universe is pulling a players hair not a foul. ?
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee make decisions..
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
Crouch cheated... no denying that. It's hard to say England still would not have gotten their result though... I dunno why men still carrying feelings about that four years later.
Please stop. Trust me that is not a sound argument if you actually watch the games. I am a big United fan, back England for years, think Rooney is a great player and expect to pass Lineker's record and hopes he will pass Charlton's for United but...
he has had a wretched World Cup. Despite the issues with the rest of the team Rooney cannot blame his team for not being able to trap the ball or lay it off to a team-mate. He has not scored since March and he has always been a streaky striker. He definitely should not have played that 2nd leg against Bayern and he is paying for it now. You could understand why he played badly but that doesn't change the fact that his play has been piss poor.
Messi on the other hand while not scoring has created goals for Argentina and has made the side tick. To make a comparison of Messi and Rooney in this tournament based on goals is to miss the point that Messi has made Argentina better while Rooney has not done the same for England, despite all this running back. On current from, if Rooney wasn't named Rooney you could make a good argument to drop him.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48189000/jpg/_48189916_lampard_nogoal640.jpg)
4-2 , still 4 though
World Cup 2010: Fabio Capello points to disallowed goal
Coach Fabio Capello said the referee's decision to rule out England's second 'goal' was the turning point during the 4-1 defeat by Germany at the World Cup.
The same jackass defending that England had on the first 2 was employed on the last 2. Germany are well worth their 4 goals. I agree that Johnson is a total waste though.(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/48189000/jpg/_48189916_lampard_nogoal640.jpg)
4-2 , still 4 though
2-2...Germany may not have gone on to score 2 goals on the counterattack...England needed a goal in the second half and had to gamble... that 3rd German goal just highlighted how much of a f**king shitsnake Gareth Barry and G.Johnson are...
And people wanna say Neville is shit...Johnson is a waste of time..no IQ and people only like him because he like to bomb forward....a shithong can run down a wing...its what he does with the ball and more importantly off the ball makes him a good RB..and Johnson is f**king shit
Barry...my god...A fit Hargreaves would have been the perfect player for that position...Scholes would have fit the bill too...even Carrick would have offered a better passing range and class....
Heskey....I cannot believe that man was in the 23...and to think he start 2 and came on in 2 when Crouch who is a handful and SCORES goals for England just wasted on the bench
A combination of Fabio and English Media and a few players blew a nation's dream...
Get in Harry Redknapp...
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
ENT!!?!?! Sando prince WHAT DE ASS YOU SMOKING!?!?! Where the hell were you when Crouch screwed us in Nuremberg when he pulled Sancho's hair to score the first goal eh???
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee is the one who make the calls but continue hating on England fuh future world cups maybe we can make another world cup one day so one of our players can pull an englishman hair so allyuh could fel better :D
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
Thanks, I really didn't have the patience to break it down for him like that.LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
100 years of bad luck to England for cheating against my soca warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh ?..when did England cheat against socawarriors ?..the referee was from which part of England?..and in what game ?..
You had to be joking right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrHkMc5_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JURU3iFmRxs&feature=related
ENT!!?!?! Sando prince WHAT DE ASS YOU SMOKING!?!?! Where the hell were you when Crouch screwed us in Nuremberg when he pulled Sancho's hair to score the first goal eh???
You and Trinione must be some emotional kids to believe England cheat T&T in that game...the referee is the one who make the calls but continue hating on England fuh future world cups maybe we can make another world cup one day so one of our players can pull an englishman hair so allyuh could fel better :D
allyuh remind me of some dillusional fellas in here who still have heartache from 1989, saying the USA robbed T&T
steups, breds let me tote feelings if i want to nah.
crouch bein a member of d england team, fouled one of our players which resulted in a goal. d ref 'didnt' see it yes, but dat doh change d fact dat england cheated.
World Cup 2010: Fabio Capello points to disallowed goal
Coach Fabio Capello said the referee's decision to rule out England's second 'goal' was the turning point during the 4-1 defeat by Germany at the World Cup.
This is the thing about that disallowed goal. Everybody supporting the English will use it as an excuse for the cut arse dey get. Explain to me how, at 2 - 1 down and the English pushing forward made them "vulnerable" at the back?? You are a goal down in a must win game so what was the team to do??
If the goal had counted and it was 2 - 2 in a must win game, would England STILL not have to push forward?? Wouldn't they STILL have been "vulnerable" at the back??
I don't like this disallowed goal dotishness and it eh look like FIFA have any plan to fix it but puhlease English supporters, disallowed goal or no disallowed goal, England were beaten by the better side....wheel and come again....
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under thisFair assessments.
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under thisFair assessments.
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under this
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
Something wrong with your comprehension or what? The point isn't to compare Rooney to Messi but to show that the simple fact that Rooney hasn't scored doesn't mean that he's had a disastrous WC. This has become a long drawn out discussion because you chose to make it one. Man making light sarcastic comments about Rooney not scoring and I responded in kind about Messi not scoring. The fact remains that even if we are to concede that some of Rooney's struggles are attributable to poor form, a lot has to do with the collective struggles of the team. This is where the comparison comes in... is Argentina clicking BECAUSE of Messi or are they clicking IN SPITE of his lack of goals? I say they have enough talent to compensate for the fact that he hasn't gotten in on the score sheet. I also say that he's playing a big part in their success b/c whatever they're getting from him is supplemented by the activity of his teammates. This cannot be said for Rooney, so whatever little he's giving England, the deficit seems amplified by the fact that nothing is coming of his efforts. You putting that failure on him, I'm saying that much of it goes to his teammates as well.
Individual talent goes only but so far, and this England team has been so abyssmal this Cup that no one player was going to carry that squad. But then again, you's the man arguing that England and Germany have equal talent... so maybe we juss seeing things differently where that team is concerned. If they have as much talent as you believe they do then no wonder you putting so much blame on Rooney for not pulling his weight, as you see it.
http://www.youtube.com/v/TUb5J2mZve4
E-man is just for kicks eh.
World Cup 2010: Fabio Capello points to disallowed goal
Coach Fabio Capello said the referee's decision to rule out England's second 'goal' was the turning point during the 4-1 defeat by Germany at the World Cup.
This is the thing about that disallowed goal. Everybody supporting the English will use it as an excuse for the cut arse dey get. Explain to me how, at 2 - 1 down and the English pushing forward made them "vulnerable" at the back?? You are a goal down in a must win game so what was the team to do??
If the goal had counted and it was 2 - 2 in a must win game, would England STILL not have to push forward?? Wouldn't they STILL have been "vulnerable" at the back??
I don't like this disallowed goal dotishness and it eh look like FIFA have any plan to fix it but puhlease English supporters, disallowed goal or no disallowed goal, England were beaten by the better side....wheel and come again....
No they wouldn't. Come on youself. England was selling out in the second half to get even because the longer they went thru the game trailing the less likely they would have been to equalize. They were playing a younger, more potent German team. If the score remained 2-1 as the game got longer and English legs got wearier then there was no way they were coming back to tie Germany. They had to go for broke early and by pushing Gerrard and Lampard even further forward, and encouraging Cole and Johnson to attack as they did that left the wings open to the counter and left Terry and Upson (already compromised) even more exposed.
They had absolutely no choice but to gamble and get back in the game. I don't mind people saying Germany would have eventually won, but let's not fool ourselves with this nonsense argument that the disallowed goal made no difference. 2-2 and you play for the draw if necessary, and take your chances on penalty kicks.
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under thisFair assessments.
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
fuh real. clearly these fans understand the game of football, not like the usa fans who were talkin a pack ah nonsense yesterday
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under thisFair assessments.
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
fuh real. clearly these fans understand the game of football, not like the usa fans who were talkin a pack ah nonsense yesterday
Yuh expected anything else from US fans?? Dem know bout "Soccer" not football.... ::) ::)
Its end of shit football in the tournament and ARROGANT teams....one think they good enough to win the whole thing, the next one always feel they entitled.....steups!!!So leh meh ask yuh dis. who the fack does enter ah tourney without any expectations of winnin? oh .. ah forget TNT does. they love makin guest appearances.
THANK YOU GERMANY AND GHANA!!!
AH LOVE IT!!!.....
Its end of shit football in the tournament and ARROGANT teams....one think they good enough to win the whole thing, the next one always feel they entitled.....steups!!!So leh meh ask yuh dis. who the fack does enter ah tourney without any expectations of winnin? oh .. ah forget TNT does. they love makin guest appearances.
THANK YOU GERMANY AND GHANA!!!
AH LOVE IT!!!.....
I also don't prescribe to the goals as a complete measure of contribution. Rooney has had a disastrous WC because his overall play has been bad. The lack of goals, goalscoring chances created and even quality passes is a symptom of his poor play. Calling out Rooney for poor play is not the same as putting all the blame on him. I would like to see where that was done. If you want to say that Rooney score no goals but the whole team bad, that's fine but any comparison to Messi is misplaced because Messi's play has not been bad. Unless the point you trying to make is that a player in fine form could have 0 goals just as a player in wretched form could have 0 goals but that probably was not your point.
All you could do is come up with some school yard come back. I still know more than you about soccer. Don't need to parrot a commentator.
Or you was talking about the goal being disallowed, my bad. See that I have balls big enough to say I wrong.
Anyone who know anything about football know that even if the 2nd goal was allowed that eh affecting the Germans, they knew the game was theirs to lose from the minute they started playing.
Like I say, you reach yuh level... if that goal had been properly awarded it would have been a totally different game. Germany ent outplay England the way allyuh making it seem, England created just as many opportunities... the difference has been those two breakaway goals which likely would never have happened if England wasn't gambling to get even by leaving themselves vulnerable to the break.
Prince and he bredda doh look nuttin alikeYeah daiz a love triangle going on there.
Dude not everyone has a soft psyche like you. Not everyone that fragile. The first thing a coach will talk about is that goals will score you should expect that, however within that you would stay calm, can't let that rile you up. You seem to think that these are RC school boys out there.
theyre half-brothers. Different mothers , so partially different genes. Idk why espn keep saying brothers just to make it dramatic
Thank you Germany, I absolutely love your team even more now for embarassing England like this!! :-*
A 4 - 1 beating & it could have easily been 6 - 1 if it wasn't for some great keeping by Engalnd's man of the match! :beermug:
"Revenge Of MOKO" is ah serious thing, those of you who didn't believe me about Moko not laughing now are you?! ;D
Go home England go home!! :beermug: :D
http://www.youtube.com/v/TUb5J2mZve4
E-man is just for kicks eh.
The English FA has to go back to the drawing board to save English football. It won't be long before we start seeing foreign quotas or English born quotas for the EPL sides. The English team rides the coat tails and prestige of the EPL, but honestly they are not developing English talent. I read an article where Capello said less than 40% of the EPL talent is available to him to choose from.They managed only 1 point against Uzbekistan in the U20 World Cup last year. Ghana , who went on to become Champions beat them 4-0.
The English FA has to go back to the drawing board to save English football. It won't be long before we start seeing foreign quotas or English born quotas for the EPL sides. The English team rides the coat tails and prestige of the EPL, but honestly they are not developing English talent. I read an article where Capello said less than 40% of the EPL talent is available to him to choose from.
Allyuh should really take a few mins to read some of the comments from English fans under this
artice..http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/match-report/0,28360,12097_3287499,00.html
Interesting- If that is the general sentiment of the English fans I can respect it because it's realistic and it takes responsibility. If it were the U.S. who had that goal disallowed, I have a feeling that the focus would have been different. We'd be flooded with articles, commentary, video segments and overhyped media material showing the disallowed goal, and crying about how the U.S. were robbed....don't mean to hijack the thread, but the difference between how McManaman responded to the disallowed goal, and how Lalas and crew responded to theirs spoke volumes in my opinion.
I agree with this comment the most:
Jimmy Smith (Arsenal fan) says...
"The problem is that we do not have world class footballers, what we have are footballers who play with world class (foreign) teamates and are made to look better than what they really are. You only have to look at Gerrard's performance since Alonso left Liverpool. We need to start again. We also need someone who can make the best of what we have: Harry Redknapp"
I eh go lie for ah lil skinny fellah Klose 'strrrong like bool'
e-man yuh need to put goal no.4 in de babes section
Prince and he bredda doh look nuttin alikeYeah daiz a love triangle going on there.
theyre half-brothers. Different mothers , so partially different genes. Idk why espn keep saying brothers just to make it dramatic
I eh go lie for ah lil skinny fellah Klose 'strrrong like bool'
e-man yuh need to put goal no.4 in de babes section
I eh go lie for ah lil skinny fellah Klose 'strrrong like bool'
e-man yuh need to put goal no.4 in de babes section
klose eh strong, upson weak no arse... ;D
Talent is a measure of individual players. Clearly Germany are a better team but their is no gulf if you sum the individuals. For example so say that the defences are not comparable but Friedrich, Mertesacker and Boateng are not head and shoulders above Cole, Terry and Upson. But they play better together, and based on the first goal they obviously communicate better. Likewise Ozil, Podolski and co are more exciting prospects but the plays they make are no different to what England players do at their clubs or sporadically for England. England just is not a good enough team for the players to make each other better. That is why this England crop usually looks worse in a tournament setting than club and German players are the opposite. Part of it is mentality and the over-dependence on the crossball but they have the talent to do otherwise, they just don't do it.
This is nothing new for England and Germany. Neither of them are Brazil or Argentina in terms of ability but the Germans always outplay the English in the big games (with a few exceptions).
Germany is an excellent tournament team. When those players get into a 2 or 3 week camp you always see a marked improvement on the team that showed up in qualifying. They are more disciplined, more intelligent, more versatile and absorb drills and tactics better than most other players certainly better than England.
I will say it again. Individually, England may have the edge with Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney. Outside of that Germany is either even or ahead on the individual talent. Collectively, the talent of the English team was never on par with that of the German team at this cup. England just doesn't have the horses... even I as a diehard could admit as much.
Not sure about that Bakes. Klose and Podolski have phenomenal scoring rates at an international level. Then Germany have Swinsteiger who also has a better scoring rate than Lampard or Gerrard and now a genuine star in Ozil.
England got what was coming to them. Simply put.
Not sure that it matters much but here's some interesting data:
Rooney
Mins:342
Shots: 13
SOG: 6
Fouls Commited: 4
Passes: 151
Completed Passes: 94
Messi
Mins: 360
Shots: 23
SOG:13
Fouls Commited: 3
Passes: 267
Completed Passes: 196
Messi is 56th overall on the Castrol Index, Rooney is 170th...
ps: Wikipedia was never the definitive reference on anything Bakes, but I have to admit that I'm stumped on your half brother statement. You seem pretty certain about it; can you elaborate?
"A half sibling (half brother or half sister) is a sibling with one shared biological parent. A half sibling that shares the same mother (but different fathers) is known as a uterine sibling, whereas one that shares the same father is known as an agnate sibling. In law, the term consanguine is used in place of agnate. In addition, first cousins who between them have a set of parents who are identical twins, while technically not siblings, are genetically equivalent to half siblings. Half siblings can have a wide variety of interpersonal relationships, from a bond as close as any full siblings, to total strangers.
At law (and especially inheritance law) half siblings were often accorded unequal treatment. Old English common law at one time incorporated inequalities into the laws of intestate succession, with half siblings taking only half as much property of their intestate siblings' estates as other siblings of full-blood. Unequal treatment of this type has been wholly abolished in England and throughout the United States."
ps: Wikipedia was never the definitive reference on anything Bakes, but I have to admit that I'm stumped on your half brother statement. You seem pretty certain about it; can you elaborate?
"A half sibling (half brother or half sister) is a sibling with one shared biological parent. A half sibling that shares the same mother (but different fathers) is known as a uterine sibling, whereas one that shares the same father is known as an agnate sibling. In law, the term consanguine is used in place of agnate. In addition, first cousins who between them have a set of parents who are identical twins, while technically not siblings, are genetically equivalent to half siblings. Half siblings can have a wide variety of interpersonal relationships, from a bond as close as any full siblings, to total strangers.
At law (and especially inheritance law) half siblings were often accorded unequal treatment. Old English common law at one time incorporated inequalities into the laws of intestate succession, with half siblings taking only half as much property of their intestate siblings' estates as other siblings of full-blood. Unequal treatment of this type has been wholly abolished in England and throughout the United States."
merkel 4 cameron21 ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/1fUq5MAU_cA
merkel 4 cameron21 ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/1fUq5MAU_cA
thats a your my bitch smile :D
Interesting analysis on FSC now.
Basically, they are saying that first 2 goals came as a result of Terry going out of position, leaving space in the middle of the park. Upson pay the price for the first one and Johnson for the 2nd. But it was Terry who mess up the D
Interesting analysis on FSC now.
Basically, they are saying that first 2 goals came as a result of Terry going out of position, leaving space in the middle of the park. Upson pay the price for the first one and Johnson for the 2nd. But it was Terry who mess up the D
Interesting analysis on FSC now.
Basically, they are saying that first 2 goals came as a result of Terry going out of position, leaving space in the middle of the park. Upson pay the price for the first one and Johnson for the 2nd. But it was Terry who mess up the D
England's overall team speed is too slow.
Their fastest players, Lennon and SWP used the ball terribly when given an opportunity.
So it was either too slow, or too dunce. They gone exactly where they were supposed to go...home.
No skill in the midfield. They have grafters who shoot well and are good at scoring for their respective EPL teams, but horrible at creating opportunities for others. They also weren't very good at winning the ball back. Yuh could see why Beckham still used to make dis squad.
We can finally put the, "Can Lampard and Gerrard play together?" question to rest. No, they can't
Crouch coulda get a bly.
Roy Keane on England
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8773716.stm
Roy Keane on England
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8773716.stm
Yeah....Keane say players get away with murder and need to look at demselves
Like cussin de coach, runnin to de media and sayin he eh good, and abandonin yuh team prior to yuh fuss World Cup match.
Holy Shit! Allyuh watch this Capello is a lunatic.
The man real bully Stuart Pierce on the bench ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHqxrszXYM
Holy Shit! Allyuh watch this Capello is a lunatic.
The man real bully Stuart Pierce on the bench ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHqxrszXYM