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Brazil-Chile preview (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=249717/match=300061500/preview.html)
Brazil will be vying to beat Chile for the third time in three FIFA World Cup™ meetings, when the prize on offer will be a place in the quarter-finals. Whoever they are facing, the five-time champions come under pressure to win every match with unrivalled swagger. That is the price they pay for starting each tournament as favourites, the burden of their success down the years, yet they can expect stiff opposition from South American rivals who have been in fine form since Marcelo Bielsa took over at the helm.
Add in the carrot of a coveted berth in the last eight and all the ingredients are present for an open yet fiery encounter, not least since Chile lost 4-2 and 3-0 to Dunga’s charges in qualifying and will be desperate to turn the tables.
The match
Brazil-Chile, Round of 16, Ellis Park, Johannesburg, 28 June, 20.30 (local time)
A Seleção found life difficult against group-stage opponents Korea DPR and Portugal, struggling to find a way through a sturdy defensive barrier on both occasions. Despite dominating possession, Brazil had trouble picking out their forwards in dangerous positions and endured plenty of frustration. That is not a problem they are likely to find repeated against Chile, however, as Bielsa’s flamboyant side are unlikely to settle for cautious counter-attacking football.
Still, La Roja will need to keep things tight at the back. With the likes of Robinho, Kaka and Luis Fabiano sniffing out openings, Chile will require levels of commitment and organisation similar to those they displayed against Spain, when even down to ten men they managed to keep the European champions at bay – save for the two mistakes that cost them goals. They will nonetheless have to cope without Marco Estrada, sent off against Spain, and suspended duo Waldo Ponce and Gary Medel, while Brazil could be deprived the services of injured pair Felipe Melo and Julio Baptista.
Players to watch
Kaka (BRA) v Jorge Valdivia (CHI)
The Brazil playmaker remains an idol at Sao Paulo, where he first rose to prominence before setting sail for AC Milan, while his Chilean counterpart was an iconic figure for O Tricolor Paulista's regional rivals Palmeiras, firing 24 goals in 93 appearances between 2006 and 2008. Despite those contrasting club allegiances, the two players perform a similar function on the pitch and how they fare could well prove key to this game. Their vision, the quality of their passing and their set-piece pedigree could all potentially make the difference at either end, with neither defence noted for being porous or naive.
The stat
2 – Brazil and Chile have crossed paths on two previous occasions at this level, in the semi-finals at Chile 1962 and in the Round of 16 at France 1998. A Canarinho prevailed in both games, scoring four goals each time to triumph 4-2 and 4-1 – an omen, perhaps, for a feast of attacking football at Ellis Park Stadium.
What they said
"We’re going to need to learn to play against defensive sides as I think very few teams will want to play Brazil at our own game. A Seleção must start finding solutions to get around this problem, because from now on every match will be decisive,” Luis Fabiano, Brazil forward.
"Brazil have proved down the years that they’re a team to be feared, but in this World Cup they’ve also shown that in addition to their usual creative style they now boast combativeness and strength,” Marcelo Bielsa, Chile coach.
Voice of the fans
"It will be very difficult and we won’t have our two defenders Medel and Ponce (listed as the two best players at the World Cup by the Castrol Index). There ought to be a change with Suazo back in the side and he scored two goals against Brazil in qualifying. But Brazil will always be Brazil. May the best team win,” FIFA.com user Darilx (France).
The question
Chile have not overcome Brazil since a friendly in 1993, failing to carve out victory in their last 13 meetings. Will La Roja finally be able to end that run on the grandest stage of all?
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CHILE PEPPA
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i feel chile might pull off an upset
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hhhhmmm.....interesting.....two South American sides that know about each other.....very interesting....GO CHILE!!! Easier for the Oranje!!!... :devil: :devil: ;D
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Oh Gosh how ah would love for Chile tuh knock dem out
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Oh Gosh how ah would love for Chile tuh knock dem out
Me too but I can't see it.
Chile is the perfect team for this Brazil because they attack so openly. Plus they miss plenty chances and I don't know if Suazo is fit yet. It would take a perfect game for them for them to beat Brazil.
Incidentally the last six or seven games between these two is all wind for Brazil with Brazil racking up plenty goals.
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Incidentally the last six or seven games between these two is all wind for Brazil with Brazil racking up plenty goals.
Agreed, Brazil dont even look like dey break ah sweat yet for this tournament....Ah hope that when dey hit 2nd gear....d gear box break down... :devil:
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Chile missing 3 starters.
Brazil eating Chilli for lunch!
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Incidentally the last six or seven games between these two is all wind for Brazil with Brazil racking up plenty goals.
I checked to see what the results were between these two for the qualifiers and Brazil beat them on both occasions...ah well Chile ah would love for all yuh to knock out Brazil but it eh looking likely.....that said.....
GO CHILE!!!.... ;D
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Incidentally the last six or seven games between these two is all wind for Brazil with Brazil racking up plenty goals.
I checked to see what the results were between these two for the qualifiers and Brazil beat them on both occasions...ah well Chile ah would love for all yuh to knock out Brazil but it eh looking likely.....that said.....
GO CHILE!!!.... ;D
Dat's right, BrownSugar.....call dey name in yuh mout'. Call it! (and lemme go on de nex' tread and see if yuh callin' Holland name, too.) :devil:
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Incidentally the last six or seven games between these two is all wind for Brazil with Brazil racking up plenty goals.
I checked to see what the results were between these two for the qualifiers and Brazil beat them on both occasions...ah well Chile ah would love for all yuh to knock out Brazil but it eh looking likely.....that said.....
GO CHILE!!!.... ;D
Dat's right, BrownSugar.....call dey name in yuh mout'. Call it! (and lemme go on de nex' tread and see if yuh callin' Holland name, too.) :devil:
:devil: :devil: ;D
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Seem like everybody on de same page so far.
Wonder if is cuz of leaving ah bad tase in we
mouth from dey lass game with Puttegal ? Go CHILE !!!
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Seem like everybody on de same page so far.
Wonder if is cuz of leaving ah bad tase in we
mouth from dey lass game with Puttegal ? Go CHILE !!!
I for one left room for collusion given d Portuguese link, but ah was hopin dey would at least make it interestin :( brazil is mih side still doh
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I hope Brazil puts on a show and makes a statement in victory - as a Brazil fan and for the good of the cup.
I mean Holland-Brazil is so much more of a match to look forward to than Holland-Chile...
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Oh Gosh how ah would love for Chile tuh knock dem out
Me too but I can't see it.
I eh look fuh yuh dey JDB...
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CHILE!!!!!
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This will be a low scoring game I feel. 1 - 0 Brazil.
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I hope Brazil puts on a show and makes a statement in victory - as a Brazil fan and for the good of the cup.
I mean Holland-Brazil is so much more of a match to look forward to than Holland-Chile...
I hope Chile put it on them and this Brazil team looks as uninventive as they have been for the last year.
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I hope Brazil puts on a show and makes a statement in victory - as a Brazil fan and for the good of the cup.
I mean Holland-Brazil is so much more of a match to look forward to than Holland-Chile...
I doubt it. Chile defends well apart from that howler against Spain.
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I hope Brazil puts on a show and makes a statement in victory - as a Brazil fan and for the good of the cup.
I mean Holland-Brazil is so much more of a match to look forward to than Holland-Chile...
I doubt it. Chile defends well apart from that howler against Spain.
chile's attacking brand works to brazil advantage (i.e. counterattack)..it should be a very open game with a lot of goals
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steups This should have been Brazil-Spain, Chile-Portugal so the South Americans teams could progress; I don't like them knocking out each other.
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steups This should have been Brazil-Spain, Chile-Portugal so the South Americans teams could progress; I don't like them knocking out each other.
Well, the Europeans facing and knocking out each other too
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steups This should have been Brazil-Spain, Chile-Portugal so the South Americans teams could progress; I don't like them knocking out each other.
Well, the Europeans facing and knocking out each other too
Yeah, I know I want them to be knocked out by South American teams so SA could show their quality.
Guess we'll have to wait for the Quarter finals, although I'm not so confident of Argentina beating Germany. Germany looks as though they could sweep aside all contenders (apart from Brasil).
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ah expect a next handball from fabiano, maybe even to open the scoring. red card for chile as well.
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Brazil winning this easy.
Kaka and Robinhio well rested.
Brazil better in possesion what will chile do press or sitback.
Brazil have tall men for set plays.
Chile can either sit back and defend and lose
Or try to attack and leave space in the back to lose more.
Given the tatics of Bielsa,
They will attack;
Brazil will destroy them
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Brazil winning this easy.
Kaka and Robinhio well rested.
Brazil better in possesion what will chile do press or sitback.
Brazil have tall men for set plays.
Chile can either sit back and defend and lose
Or try to attack and leave space in the back to lose more.
Given the tatics of Bielsa,
They will attack;
Brazil will destroy them
you are right...bielsa will look to push men forward on the wings to try and keep maicon and bastos back, make them stay home instead of joining in the attack. i cyah wait to see this game dred.
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Brazil taking this easy easy. Is how much Chile collectin is the question.
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This will be a low scoring game I feel. 1 - 0 Brazil.
Disagree ... with the low-scoring affair part.
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Part of the openeing segment on espn was the throwing out of the fact that all teams so far in this round of 16 have scored, winners and losers alike. Chile is about to buck that trend in a losing effort.
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Nuff Brazil haters ...hmmm, I understand the frustration of assorted years, if dahis what it is - aside perhaps from an ARG fanbase haterade thing :)
Chile under Bielsa is capable of troubling Brazil for extended moments, and this match provides a classic platform as Bielsa's defining moment. Sadly, the combination of forces required fuh a Chilean victory today is unlikely to come off. Aside from facing Paraguay, Chile would be next in the pecking order to disturb the status quo of a Brazilian victory. Love Bielsa to de max, but today I can't be in his camp.
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Luis Fabia NO, :rotfl: Dese Univision commentators is kix yes
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Brazil starting to control the game arready!! ....Chile are defending well.....dis go be a rel nice game!!
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Brazil leaving a big hole in the middle of the field. They close it down quickly as Chile advance, but you can't keep giving Chile that much space
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Daryn, beausejour is yuh family? Serious dread, man look like yuh brother
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that was ah big dive boy lol
Big Up!
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high octane football !
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goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllll
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Too Easy
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I sorry fellas but is this the Bra Zeel that allyuh men love so much.
Brazil ent forcing none of the play but just waiting to catch Chile on the break or on set plays.
As I write that they score...on a counter of course.
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PACE SAH!
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Next! lol
Big Up!
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d dutch will deal with that :devil:
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Brazil sorfenin the Dutch in that 1/4 final
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d dutch will deal with that :devil:
Steups
Fresh Squeezed...
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu10/hreynolds2/fresh-orange-juice.jpg)
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I sorry fellas but is this the Bra Zeel that allyuh men love so much.
Brazil ent forcing none of the play but just waiting to catch Chile on the break or on set plays.
As I write that they score...on a counter of course.
Brazil doing what all other teams do against them, and still beating them at their own game: counterattacking.
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Ronal-din-WHO?
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Ronal-din-WHO?
:rotfl:
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FF the dutch is euro wannabe brazilians.
Brazil play good teams and come out a tough group...all the other pretenders still coasting in the 1st and 2nd gear they ent battle ready yet and dais why Brazil go ketch dem napping.
Men watching fluid pace attacking football and still hating.
Only Germany looking fluid like Brazil.
Argentina needed a offside and a gift to beat Mexico...Mexico was handling them.
Doh frighten...when yuh is a Champion yuh doh run from pressure yuh relish it.
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Brazil sorfenin the Dutch in that 1/4 final
This from the man who said "Ghana is a shit side...." that said....
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Lawd fadder dem Brazilians could show off....chups...
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Brazil sorfenin the Dutch in that 1/4 final
This from the man who said "Ghana is a shit side...." that said....
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Lawd fadder dem Brazilians could show off....chups...
Wha kinda prayers is dat yuh sayin' dey? Ah watchin yuh yuh know!
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Maicon now get the breed of the tournament...damn
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Brazil sorfenin the Dutch in that 1/4 final
This from the man who said "Ghana is a shit side...." that said....
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Lawd fadder dem Brazilians could show off....chups...
Wha kinda prayers is dat yuh sayin' dey? Ah watchin yuh yuh know!
Ah praying for Brazil to win..... :devil: :devil: ;D
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Maicon now get the breed of the tournament...damn
Ent
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I sorry fellas but is this the Bra Zeel that allyuh men love so much.
Brazil ent forcing none of the play but just waiting to catch Chile on the break or on set plays.
As I write that they score...on a counter of course.
Come nah man ... watch dis game and yuh should almost feel guilty fuh not paying. Open soccer. Balanced possession. However more improvisation and good decisions being made by the team that's up.
As one option, Chile could use the space on the left in their attacking third to engage Maicon and Lucio, but have chosen not to ... this isn't entirely a departure from form as Beusejour isn't famed for creating width. Presently his incorporation in the middle is seeing him played to feet too deep on the pitch. The other Chilean player deploying on the left has been overzealous due to neglect and involvement in the proceedings.
Applying this tactic would restrict Maicon and Lucio getting forward, and could expose Lucio to a card. It should also open Chupete Suazo to getting in between Juan and M. Bastos. The obvious problem is that Dani Alves and Ramires in combination with Juan and Michel Bastos (depending on how the point of attack is changed) could work to expose Fuentes on the Chilean right.
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Ramires the blue Kenyan...wow!!
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All yuh c dat 3rd goal?
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Ramires the blue Kenyan...wow!!
run thru de whole side, game, set, match
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respect to Brazil :notworthy:
but d dutch go work alyuh :devil:
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Ramieres the blue Kenyan...wow!!
Ah was jes coming fuh yuh :devil: The pre-emptive response is appreciated. :)
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
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What's more worries than a Brazilian team with deadly forwards?? Brazil with a defense of steel.....lawd let me :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: some more.... ;D
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl:
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respect to Brazil :notworthy:
but d dutch d go work alyuh :devil:
We'll cross that bridge when the time comes. That game will be played differently. There will be a personnel adjustment.
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Steups...all yuh leave my Orange alone please... ;D
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:shameonyou:
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Ah was jes coming fuh yuh :devil: The pre-emptive response is appreciated. :)
don't doubt his ability...question his consistency, but as you say he hasn't really gotten a fair enough shot to establish the consistency.
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Suazo ... from Beausejour ... example of what delivering from the left can do ...
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Brazil in total control. The gulf widening.
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Lord Brazil looking solid
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Lord Brazil looking solid
AS A ROCKKKKKKKK
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Lord Brazil looking solid
Join me...... :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
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Lord Brazil looking solid
AS A ROCKKKKKKKK
Scary eh.
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:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
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Chile is a good side....very very professional the way they played to the final whistle.
They bossed Spain until they went down to 10 men, they have a ridiculous amount of energy and they actually fooled some into thinking they would beat Brazil today....They came out guns blazing to get Brazil and they played a very honest game, but it looks a case of honorable industry but insufficient artistry.
Michel Bastos looked an improved player today...
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Lord Brazil looking solid
AS A ROCKKKKKKKK
Scary eh.
Co-sign dis is d first time meh favourite players is d defence fellas.
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Lord Brazil looking solid
AS A ROCKKKKKKKK
Scary eh.
Co-sign dis is d first time meh favourite players is d defence fellas.
Dunga tactics hard and rugged
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl:
so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
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My brain does keep telling me turn off the broadcast, but I want to catch the post-game.
I too harden.
Lalas! I feel the man get horn by a English fella.
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Didn't remember Luisao was in this squad.
Chile is a good side....very very professional the way they played to the final whistle.
They bossed Spain until they went down to 10 men, they have a ridiculous amount of energy and they actually fooled some into thinking they would beat Brazil today....They came out guns blazing to get Brazil and they played a very honest game, but it looks a case of honorable industry but insufficient artistry.
Michel Bastos looked an improved player today...
Fair comments. They will murder and cremate certain sides fuh sure.
Beausejour played his regular game today. Suazo was off. The team lacked a shooter with the ambition of Mexico's Salcido.
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Sorry Dutch fans, but I eh seeing how allyuh team could cope with Brazil. It eh looking good. I seeing the same score.
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My brain does keep telling me turn off the broadcast, but I want to catch the post-game.
I too harden.
Lalas! I feel the man get horn by a English fella.
.....the man has no idea how to be professional and how to earn himself some respect. He keep reiterating how the english team are just not that good. Where does that leave the american team, welcoming gifts with open arms, from a team that is not that good.
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
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so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
The last 2 times they met in the World Cup in 1994 and 1998 Brazil won, in 98 on penalties...there, yuh happy now...chups...
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
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that rock getting crush FRI 8)
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl:
so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
The last 2 times they met in the World Cup in 1994 and 1998 Brazil won, in 98 on penalties...there, yuh happy now...chups...
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Don't worry, BrownSugar.....at least allyuh have the fact that allyuh made them look bad in Germany (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in '74) to hold on to. ;)
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl:
so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
The last 2 times they met in the World Cup in 1994 and 1998 Brazil won, in 98 on penalties...there, yuh happy now...chups...
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Don't worry, BrownSugar.....at least allyuh have the fact that allyuh made them look bad in Germany (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in '74) to hold on to. ;)
De only way Brownsugar could relate to 74 is de amounta ... she wine on carnival tuesday
Kinda like how Brazil go wine on de dutch come de weekend :devil:
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I'll be of no use (even more than usual) on Friday.
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl:
so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
The last 2 times they met in the World Cup in 1994 and 1998 Brazil won, in 98 on penalties...there, yuh happy now...chups...
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Don't worry, BrownSugar.....at least allyuh have the fact that allyuh made them look bad in Germany (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in '74) to hold on to. ;)
De only way Brownsugar could relate to 74 is de amounta ... she wine on carnival tuesday
Kinda like how Brazil go wine on de dutch come de weekend :devil:
:rotfl: :rotfl: I stayin' outta DAT one!!
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Brazil was supposed to hit them 4.
Kaka still eh find he footin yet. Too much mistraps, but I like the overall workrate. But at de rate he goin, wit dem yellows, he go miss d dam finals.
Lucio is a boss... so far.
I cyah wait for dem to mash up d Dutch. But they will have to watch dat Robben fella.
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:rotfl: :rotfl:
so today make it eight straight Brazil win over Chile...hummuch straight Brazil done win over holland? Somebody help meh out wit de stats nuh?
The last 2 times they met in the World Cup in 1994 and 1998 Brazil won, in 98 on penalties...there, yuh happy now...chups...
:praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying: :praying:
Don't worry, BrownSugar.....at least allyuh have the fact that allyuh made them look bad in Germany (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in '74) to hold on to. ;)
De only way Brownsugar could relate to 74 is de amounta ... she wine on carnival tuesday
Kinda like how Brazil go wine on de dutch come de weekend :devil:
Could you please stop minding mih business??..... ;D
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ahhh boy some oranje juice will wash down this chilli real nice
:D
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to all d pretend supporters dat choose to hate on dis team because ah buck teet dancer boy eh get ah pick haul allyuh..................... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
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Its looking more unlikely that there is a team to challenge Brazil in this tournament.
Once they score 1 goal, is curtains
Looks like the only way to beat this team is to score first, then defend like hell.
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Brazil was supposed to hit them 4.
Kaka still eh find he footin yet. Too much mistraps, but I like the overall workrate. But at de rate he goin, wit dem yellows, he go miss d dam finals.
No way to miss the finals unless you get a red in the semis. Card amnesty starts after the quarters