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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Tallman on August 04, 2010, 05:42:50 PM
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Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010
Time: 10 PM EST
Venue: Estadio Nuevo Corona
Location: Torreón, Mexico
Referee: P. Ward (CAN)
Assistants: D. Belleau (CAN), D. Clark (CAN)
Fourth official: A. Penaloza (MEX)
TV Viewing:
Galavision
ESPN Latin America
ESPN (Channel 76) on FLOW
Live Streams:
http://atdhe.net/21963/watch-santos-laguna-vs-san-juan-jabloteh
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Dais tonight?? When Joe Public playing??
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Dais tonight?? When Joe Public playing??
Tomorrow.
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come on Jabloteh...give it a go
tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
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come on Jabloteh...give it a go
tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
Ah feel Jab will do O.K. tonight. They doh have the pressure of playing in front of a big pfl crowd.
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pressure! good luck JAB
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1-0 santos
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come on Jabloteh...give it a go
tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
Ah feel Jab will do O.K. tonight. They doh have the pressure of playing in front of a big pfl crowd.
Che you have goat mouth!!!!!
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Offside goal. Steups...
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come on Jabloteh...give it a go
tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
Ah feel Jab will do O.K. tonight. They doh have the pressure of playing in front of a big pfl crowd.
Che you have goat mouth!!!!!
;D
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If Santos score again, I going to bed.
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Starting Lineup for Jabloteh
22. Cleon John (GK)
12. Robert Primus
29. Sheldon Bateau
27. Joel Russell
28. Jamal Jack
7. Elijah Manners
10. Marvin Oliver
11. Ataulla Guerra
9. Ronaldo Viana
13. Jason Marcano
19. Hector Sam
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Starting Lineup for Jabloteh
22. Cleon John (GK)
12. Robert Primus
29. Sheldon Bateau
27. Joel Russell
28. Jamal Jack
7. Elijah Manners
10. Marvin Oliver
11. Ataulla Guerra
9. Ronaldo Viana
13. Jason Marcano
19. Hector Sam
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It's shocking how these players (Jabloteh) have no composure. The level of aimless plays and passes borders on criminal. Me eh know boy, Trini's have a mental problem. Lack of focus at the top of that list.
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I trying to understand d kit Cleon John wearing.
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Shaka trying to be diplomatic but yuh hearing the frustration in he voice.
All Jab need to do is settle...they could score.
The Viana player dunce...he beating men and turning back to collect jam
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I cyah believe that pass by Ras...
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oliver looking nice on de ball...touches right...this santos side ent all that
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SAVE BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice save
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If Santos score again, I going to bed.
hmm keeper keep you off the bed :D
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If Santos score again, I going to bed.
hmm keeper keep you off the bed :D
:rotfl:, ent, good save Cleon, come Jab, compose all yuhself and try to grind dis out, it possible
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Primus showed his inexperience on dat play....he lucky he ent get a card too.
Bess save by John....tight clothes have him streamlined.
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jab had no attempt on goal yet
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It's amazing that even if u didn't know the teams u could tell which is from Trini....Everything is hurried...Even when it doesn't have to..
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The great Guerra tootooin down heself and Marcano ent beat a man yet...setta wild push and run and he losing the ball every time.
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What kinda free kick is that? :o
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damn...jab have a fugly kit
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It's amazing that even if u didn't know the teams u could tell which is from Trini....Everything is hurried...Even when it doesn't have to..
Still treatin de football like a hot potato
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Jab have no clue going fwd.
But fortune favours the brave so they have 45 more minutes to find two goals.
Cant say i fancy them to do it given the run of play in the first half though.
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Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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It's amazing that even if u didn't know the teams u could tell which is from Trini....Everything is hurried...Even when it doesn't have to..
Yeah... This jab team can't seem to get that final through ball just right- maybe they just need to calm down a bit. It's easy to see where losing a lot of those experienced players has hurt them.
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Jab could still score 2 goals and progress....it can happen.
Only Oliver showing any kinda pedigree and sense, the rest like they take een.
The Mexican side either still in first gear or they ent showing nuttin. Once jab take it to them they go be alright.
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Good night guys.
P.S. Jab will win 2-1.
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What kinda free kick is that? :o
Was wondering the same blasted ting.
VB
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Good ting for jab is they dont look incapable of scoring. If the score one this could become interesting.
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Didnt Jab Lose 1-0 in TT?
V
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easy goal. changing back meh channel lol
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Goodnight all
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Goodnight all
over and out. i gone too
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Mr Touches, my goodness, I'll tell you again, as I told u last week....
This Jabloteh team AINT GOOD!!!!!!!! No disrespect because I respect what you do on this side but this Jabloteh team AINT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Btw, besides Cleon John, no member of this team can automatically vouch for a TT pick (even for the August 11 Jamaica game), they're that bad....
Jab could still score 2 goals and progress....it can happen.
Only Oliver showing any kinda pedigree and sense, the rest like they take een.
The Mexican side either still in first gear or they ent showing nuttin. Once jab take it to them they go be alright.
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what a waste of effing time
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rastaman aiming for posts :rotfl:
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Marvin Oliver needs to give up. Can't finish a sitter with his left foot so misses with the right and keep making errant passes in the middle. He complains and walks.
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My word :o :o
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5-0, and counting in the 83rd minuto. This is so one-sided. No Defense, No Midfield, No Strikers. Ten men and a keeper.
Blessings
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five nil yes.....bunch ah ball watchers. Disappointing
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Mr Touches, my goodness, I'll tell you again, as I told u last week....
This Jabloteh team AINT GOOD!!!!!!!! No disrespect because I respect what you do on this side but this Jabloteh team AINT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Btw, besides Cleon John, no member of this team can automatically vouch for a TT pick (even for the August 11 Jamaica game), they're that bad....
Jab could still score 2 goals and progress....it can happen.
Only Oliver showing any kinda pedigree and sense, the rest like they take een.
The Mexican side either still in first gear or they ent showing nuttin. Once jab take it to them they go be alright.
wa touches does do on ??
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I have nothing against him one bit, but Jabloteh was beaten before this two-leg series started.
I have seen enough of Jabloteh in 2010 to confirm that they are WORST with Fenwick than Earl Jean; at least Earl Jean got them into the Group Stage, and further more they were more organised in the Pro League than the rag-tag team they are now...
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Yourstruly u clearly must nowwwwww start watching pro league to make a comment like Earl Jean's Jab better than Fenwick ..............I fine that comment so stupid but i guess you could only say what you know .....if u followed the league ...u would know Earl jean inherited a championship team and crumbled it ......and the success u tlkin about last year ...was only a victory at home to San Fransico and i know u see how baddddddd dem loss this yea......and a victory against all odds after losing 2-0 in the first leg......after that Earl Jean's Jab lost ALL their group stage games .........Jabloteh losing to Santos aint nothin, there is noooo pro league team that would have won......cuase Santos going to make semi finals just like last year ...normal normal......U have to understand Fenwick after buliding a jab team full of youngsters lost alll of them ......from cornculs ,elton john ,russel ,jamerson,all to ma pau and along with glen ,cornell and forbes the last time them won the league ....if u followed the league u would KNOW this is a rebuliding year for jab ....and I admire fenwick cuase no other team in the league having a back line full of U 23s and bring on 2 former under 17 ballers ....iin due time fenwick will have dem tickin ...cuase he is the only reeeel coach in trinidad.
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I have nothing against him one bit, but Jabloteh was beaten before this two-leg series started.
I have seen enough of Jabloteh in 2010 to confirm that they are WORST with Fenwick than Earl Jean; at least Earl Jean got them into the Group Stage, and further more they were more organised in the Pro League than the rag-tag team they are now...
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the played a side from panama last year under earl jean to get into the group stages .... that Mexican team would have beaten defense force btw ...
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Pops, I've been covering Pro League since 2000, when Errol McFarlane senior was coaching Defence Force....
Earl Jean did NOT crumble the team, it is NO SECRET and you can ask any Pro League coach that Fenwick UNDERMINED Jean (telling the Jabloteh hierarchy why Jean wasn't picking this one and that one etc....)
Also, Jabloteh were able to advance past the Preliminary Round last year, the Great Fenwick could not do that this year, if we want to put Fenwick on a pedestal, this year's results will put things into perspective!
Finally, after 10 Pro League games this year, Jabloteh have 12 points; in 2009 Jabloteh had 23; go figure ;D
PS - Rebuilding a team with Oliver, Viana, Noel Williams and Hector Sam????????? Daz counter-productive....
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very poor on the night
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sigh...
http://www.youtube.com/v/YpAzdS_v7R8
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Also, Jabloteh were able to advance past the Preliminary Round last year, the Great Fenwick could not do that this year, if we want to put Fenwick on a pedestal, this year's results will put things into perspective
you not being realistic here with that CCL comparison
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Pops, I've been covering Pro League since 2000, when Errol McFarlane senior was coaching Defence Force....
Earl Jean did NOT crumble the team, it is NO SECRET and you can ask any Pro League coach that Fenwick UNDERMINED Jean (telling the Jabloteh hierarchy why Jean wasn't picking this one and that one etc....)
Also, Jabloteh were able to advance past the Preliminary Round last year, the Great Fenwick could not do that this year, if we want to put Fenwick on a pedestal, this year's results will put things into perspective!
Finally, after 10 Pro League games this year, Jabloteh have 12 points; in 2009 Jabloteh had 23; go figure ;D
PS - Rebuilding a team with Oliver, Viana, Noel Williams and Hector Sam????????? Daz counter-productive....
You rel side step plenty of the valid points Pops made, it may be true that Fenwick undermined Jean, but the Jabloteh team that ran out last night is largely different to the one Jean had in CL last year and the one Fenwick had the year before.
A good portion of Jabloteh's championship squad ( particularly core players ) is currently running out with Ma Pau SC.
San Francisco is by no way as good as Santos Laguna.
Hell I expected Jabloteh to be eliminated when I heard the draw.
Thirdly, Jabloteh did deteriorate under Jean, in my opinion they were just as bad last year and they were last night.
Fourthly, experienced players are required in a rebuilding process to offer guidance, so having 5 older players in a squad of 20+ isn't counterproductive.
Fifthly, sounds like you and Fenwick doh pull..da's true?
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Yours Truly,
At 1 nil...it seemed all Jab needed was a goal and a little bit of luck.
When John saved the penalty I thought that mighta been the spark to spur them on. :-\
But half time like them fellas drink some bad water or get pay off or something cause it was total shambles after that.
The ref even feel sorry for us and didnt give the Mexicans a penalty in the dregs when the left back wrestle the man in the fig skin yellow boots to the ground.
I had a lil hope for them still but yes it was a comprehensive cut arse.
I hoping Joe Public redeem the PFL in this competition. It nice to see us on ESPN and Fox.
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thank god i aint waste my time staying up
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Pops, I've been covering Pro League since 2000, when Errol McFarlane senior was coaching Defence Force....
Earl Jean did NOT crumble the team, it is NO SECRET and you can ask any Pro League coach that Fenwick UNDERMINED Jean (telling the Jabloteh hierarchy why Jean wasn't picking this one and that one etc....)
Also, Jabloteh were able to advance past the Preliminary Round last year, the Great Fenwick could not do that this year, if we want to put Fenwick on a pedestal, this year's results will put things into perspective!
Finally, after 10 Pro League games this year, Jabloteh have 12 points; in 2009 Jabloteh had 23; go figure ;D
PS - Rebuilding a team with Oliver, Viana, Noel Williams and Hector Sam????????? Daz counter-productive....
Wasn't Fenwick the one who took Jean under his belt in the first place !! why would he under mind him now ? If de team played bad and Fenwick said his views like we do here then what is the problem.
When coaches and players mess up they need to know and that includes Fenwick, he deserve stick for the current unfit Jabloteh team.
The team Earl Jean coached was a good team and they still have the chousion from their previous year under Fenwick but Jean wasn't strick with the players and the team fell apart, Disciplined was a main factor to Jean, I liked Jean, but he didnot stamp his authority.
Read below what Jean said about Fenwick.
Fed-up Fenwick bails. (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=43484.msg557203#msg557203)
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One thing I forgot to mention....
For the majority of the Pro League season, Jabloteh has played with NO, and I repeat, NO recognised striker, at times they've used Willis Plaza, Guerra and Viana up front, with Marcano on the left wing, but they (IN PRO LEAGUE GAMES) never looked like scoring goals, and the adage remains goals wins matches.
I repeat once more, only Cleon John, on this team, looks like national material, that shows how bad this team is....
Yours Truly,
At 1 nil...it seemed all Jab needed was a goal and a little bit of luck.
When John saved the penalty I thought that mighta been the spark to spur them on. :-\
But half time like them fellas drink some bad water or get pay off or something cause it was total shambles after that.
The ref even feel sorry for us and didnt give the Mexicans a penalty in the dregs when the left back wrestle the man in the fig skin yellow boots to the ground.
I had a lil hope for them still but yes it was a comprehensive cut arse.
I hoping Joe Public redeem the PFL in this competition. It nice to see us on ESPN and Fox.
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I am a journalist, we are not supposed to curry-favour with any coach, we say it as it is....
Cleon John, Willis Plaza, Elijah Manners, Oliver, Guerra, Bateau, Primus, Noel Williams, Marcano, Joel Russell, Cyrano Glen and Karlon Murray were all under Fenwick (when he left in April 2009); btw, who brought back an out-of-shape Ronaldo Viana back to the Pro League?
Since the 2010 season BEGAN, only Cleon John and Bateau have progressed - Plaza cannot score, Manners seems timid, Oliver is on borrowed time, Guerra cannot even make a diagonal pass, Primus seems mentally weak, Marcano is still wild, Russell and Glen are still developing and Murray is off the radar.
Lastly, I've seen six of Jabloteh's 10 Pro League games this season, so I can only say it as it is....
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One thing I forgot to mention....
For the majority of the Pro League season, Jabloteh has played with NO, and I repeat, NO recognised striker, at times they've used Willis Plaza, Guerra and Viana up front, with Marcano on the left wing, but they (IN PRO LEAGUE GAMES) never looked like scoring goals, and the adage remains goals wins matches.
I repeat once more, only Cleon John, on this team, looks like national material, that shows how bad this team is....
Yours Truly,
At 1 nil...it seemed all Jab needed was a goal and a little bit of luck.
When John saved the penalty I thought that mighta been the spark to spur them on. :-\
But half time like them fellas drink some bad water or get pay off or something cause it was total shambles after that.
The ref even feel sorry for us and didnt give the Mexicans a penalty in the dregs when the left back wrestle the man in the fig skin yellow boots to the ground.
I had a lil hope for them still but yes it was a comprehensive cut arse.
I hoping Joe Public redeem the PFL in this competition. It nice to see us on ESPN and Fox.
ok cool, apart from Hector Sam and Jerrel Britto, who are currently out and out strikers on the Jabloteh squad?
I am a journalist, we are not supposed to curry-favour with any coach, we say it as it is....
Cleon John, Willis Plaza, Elijah Manners, Oliver, Guerra, Bateau, Primus, Noel Williams, Marcano, Joel Russell, Cyrano Glen and Karlon Murray were all under Fenwick (when he left in April 2009); btw, who brought back an out-of-shape Ronaldo Viana back to the Pro League?
Since the 2010 season BEGAN, only Cleon John and Bateau have progressed - Plaza cannot score, Manners seems timid, Oliver is on borrowed time, Guerra cannot even make a diagonal pass, Primus seems mentally weak, Marcano is still wild, Russell and Glen are still developing and Murray is off the radar.
Lastly, I've seen six of Jabloteh's 10 Pro League games this season, so I can only say it as it is....
Fair enough, da's the squad in April 2009..prior to the Pro league Season last year right? That Jean essentially coached ALL SEASON?
Who remains from his 2008 championship winning squad? And of the lot who remains, who were key core members of that squad?
Right now you sounding more like a disgruntled fan than a journalist, because by comparing beating San Francisco to qualify to facing Santos, you threw objectivity, which a journalist supposed to TRY to maintain a level of, out the window.
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Apart from Sam and Britto, none; whose fault is that? Isn't the coach's job to ensure that they have worthy players on their team? In fact, Sam never played a Pro League match and Britto has only played 3, if so much.
From the 2008 team - Oliver, Cleon John, Karlon Murray, Ronald Primus, Bateau, Guerra, Joel Russell, Manners and Britto.
I am NOT a disgruntled fan, I don't even support football teams (except the Netherlands, since my favourite player is Marco Van Basten); but just do me a favour, go to 3 of Jabloteh's next Pro League games, and you'll see for yourself (and not just judge over what you saw last night....)
Fair enough, da's the squad in April 2009..prior to the Pro league Season last year right? That Jean essentially coached ALL SEASON?
Who remains from his 2008 championship winning squad? And of the lot who remains, who were key core members of that squad?
Right now you sounding more like a disgruntled fan than a journalist, because by comparing beating San Francisco to qualify to facing Santos, you threw objectivity, which a journalist supposed to TRY to maintain a level of, out the window.
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And based on what I have read to date: one of the reasons given for cancelling our national team practice ids the reliance on players from Jabloteh........do we not have any other options? what about recalling the best of our players from the MLS?
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Apart from Sam and Britto, none; whose fault is that? Isn't the coach's job to ensure that they have worthy players on their team? In fact, Sam never played a Pro League match and Britto has only played 3, if so much.
From the 2008 team - Oliver, Cleon John, Karlon Murray, Ronald Primus, Bateau, Guerra, Joel Russell, Manners and Britto.
I am NOT a disgruntled fan, I don't even support football teams (except the Netherlands, since my favourite player is Marco Van Basten); but just do me a favour, go to 3 of Jabloteh's next Pro League games, and you'll see for yourself (and not just judge over what you saw last night....)
Fair enough, da's the squad in April 2009..prior to the Pro league Season last year right? That Jean essentially coached ALL SEASON?
Who remains from his 2008 championship winning squad? And of the lot who remains, who were key core members of that squad?
Right now you sounding more like a disgruntled fan than a journalist, because by comparing beating San Francisco to qualify to facing Santos, you threw objectivity, which a journalist supposed to TRY to maintain a level of, out the window.
you didn't answer the other question? how many were core players?
Any of those players you named were Trent Noel? Peter Byers? Lester Peltier? Cyd Gray?
Don't think so.
But I agree with you, Jabloteh aren't as half as good as they used to be. And I was particularly shocked that a Terry Fenwick coached Jabloteh looked so poor, but as I said in my opinion they looked much the same under Jean, IN MY OPINION.
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And based on what I have read to date: one of the reasons given for cancelling our national team practice ids the reliance on players from Jabloteh........do we not have any other options? what about recalling the best of our players from the MLS?
I've seen better performances from these players, so I wouldn't go on one game by a disorganised, disoriented team to drop the axe; Guerra and Primus in particular are capable of much better.
Also the practice was cancelled due to absence of Joe Public players as well.
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Concerning AB Trini who asked about the cancellation of national team practice - Jabloteh and Joe Public are involved in Champions League action this week while, on Saturday, Jabloteh will join Defence Force and Connection in the Lucozade Goal Shield semis (North East don't have any national players, literally and on merit), therefore the clubs will obviously want their players to remain fit for their club duties.
With regards to Arazi, only Karlon Murray was a core player of the 2008 team.
Here's my BEEF with Fenwick - the 2009 team lacked genuine firepower up front (under Jean), since Fenwick came back they're scoring less goals (at this stage than last year) and accumulated less points (at this stage than last year); isn't the coach job to ensure that he can rely on his attack, rather than his defence, since goals win matches?
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Here's my BEEF with Fenwick - the 2009 team lacked genuine firepower up front (under Jean), since Fenwick came back they're scoring less goals (at this stage than last year) and accumulated less points (at this stage than last year); isn't the coach job to ensure that he can rely on his attack, rather than his defence, since goals win matches?
But Jerol Forbes never live up to his name and Jabloteh not providing the money for Fenwick to buy more fire power.
Marcano, Cato, Cyrano Glen and Britto should be firing all now, what the hell they waiting on, all this talk and they cant break through. Thats four decend strikers, they need some belt.
Hector Sam is pure bull.
Players have to take blame to.
Remember to that Jabloteh concede the least amount of goals so far in the league, and they defence looked poor vs Santos what does that say for the rest of the teams.
North East Stars is a PNM team and Jack under power, therefore no North East players will ever get call to play for T&T.
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Concerning AB Trini who asked about the cancellation of national team practice - Jabloteh and Joe Public are involved in Champions League action this week while, on Saturday, Jabloteh will join Defence Force and Connection in the Lucozade Goal Shield semis (North East don't have any national players, literally and on merit), therefore the clubs will obviously want their players to remain fit for their club duties.
With regards to Arazi, only Karlon Murray was a core player of the 2008 team.
Here's my BEEF with Fenwick - the 2009 team lacked genuine firepower up front (under Jean), since Fenwick came back they're scoring less goals (at this stage than last year) and accumulated less points (at this stage than last year); isn't the coach job to ensure that he can rely on his attack, rather than his defence, since goals win matches?
Ah now, we making progress. I agree. Since last year I noted Jabloteh's lack of goal scorers and I surprised that Hector Sam is still around with Jabloteh, much less starting for them. They have no strikers except Britto really, who is used out wide for them and is still fairly green in terms of senior level football.
It is Fenwick's culpability for this, as it was probably for the departure of SO many key players prior to the 2009 and probably 2010 season.
It's a shame as well, because of the Pro League teams around, I expected the Jabloteh team, especially the one that won in 2008, to be Pro League team that could stand up in CCL.
Unfortunately they've regressed badly.
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Here's my BEEF with Fenwick - the 2009 team lacked genuine firepower up front (under Jean), since Fenwick came back they're scoring less goals (at this stage than last year) and accumulated less points (at this stage than last year); isn't the coach job to ensure that he can rely on his attack, rather than his defence, since goals win matches?
But Jerol Forbes never live up to his name and Jabloteh not providing the money for Fenwick to buy more fire power.
Marcano, Cato, Cyrano Glen and Britto should be firing all now, what the hell they waiting on, all this talk and they cant break through. Thats four decend strikers, they need some belt.
Hector Sam is pure bull.
Players have to take blame to.
Remember to that Jabloteh concede the least amount of goals so far in the league, and they defence looked poor vs Santos what does that say for the rest of the teams.
North East Stars is a PNM team and Jack under power, therefore no North East players will ever get call to play for T&T.
Correction: Jabloteh DON'T have the money for Fenwick to buy additional firepower.
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Who in the North East Stars squad deserve a national pick?
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I concur, we can agree to disagree but be mature about it....
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yourstruly i read alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll your responses and you just proved the poor state of Trindad's sports journalism as you fail to answer any of the points I talked about ....not one .....i hope you know as a journalist you dont have a PR job ......no one is putting fenwick on a pedastal .....the point is fenwick has built a team once and destroyed the proleague normal normal .....and when he did do that ....it was with a young core .....many of which are gone now .....some essential stats have dissapeared ....it is a rebuliding year and all the players you called as being counter productive except viana ammmm was alwaysssss with jabloteh .....your point of how jean led jab past the prelims makes nooo sense as the same San fransico side Jean beat to qualify to the group stage lost by 9 goals this year to a mexican side this year .....yes a 9 goal agg loss .....so how in the hell you could compare Terry's draw to that of Earl ......as i said before there is not one proleague team that would have won last night none .....and as i said before if you followed the league ...well good ....you would know that it was allllways fenwick intention to play with no strikers ......it must be rebuliding ....as there is noooo team with a u 23 back line in trinidad and noooo team with 3 former u 17 players....ala britto ,peltier,cato....
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isn't the coach job to ensure that he can rely on his attack, rather than his defence, since goals win matches?
Well this clearly depends on a coach's philosophy... see Greece... some might say recent Chelsea vintages as well
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Well pops, if you can improve the state of Trinidad's sports journalism, give me a holla, since you can't (at this point in time), I will not have you to study.
At least Arazi had sense to understand where I coming from, you seem to be just bitter cuz Jabloteh lost, and trying to look for excuses (a PNM trait I wonder)....
This is Fenwick's third stint as Jabloteh coach and this is the WORST Jabloteh team ever, whose fault is that? Who is coaching the team? Who is being paid to coach this team? Who wants to coach this team till thy kingdom come?
Finally, if it is Fenwick's intention to play with no strikers, how will he get goals? Who will score goals? Who looks capable enough to be reliant up front? Geez, what you went to school for? Box-lunch? ???
yourstruly i read alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll your responses and you just proved the poor state of Trindad's sports journalism as you fail to answer any of the points I talked about ....not one .....i hope you know as a journalist you dont have a PR job ......no one is putting fenwick on a pedastal .....the point is fenwick has built a team once and destroyed the proleague normal normal .....and when he did do that ....it was with a young core .....many of which are gone now .....some essential stats have dissapeared ....it is a rebuliding year and all the players you called as being counter productive except viana ammmm was alwaysssss with jabloteh .....your point of how jean led jab past the prelims makes nooo sense as the same San fransico side Jean beat to qualify to the group stage lost by 9 goals this year to a mexican side this year .....yes a 9 goal agg loss .....so how in the hell you could compare Terry's draw to that of Earl ......as i said before there is not one proleague team that would have won last night none .....and as i said before if you followed the league ...well good ....you would know that it was allllways fenwick intention to play with no strikers ......it must be rebuliding ....as there is noooo team with a u 23 back line in trinidad and noooo team with 3 former u 17 players....ala britto ,peltier,cato....
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ahahahahahah :rotfl: dont get emotional homie ......all i am saying your points are invaild and show lack of knowledge or maybe a lack of the objectivity that is needed by u .....that being said this is a forum and you are entilted to your opinion .....indenpendent of how skewed these opinions are ......and the funny thing is i am a journalist just like you butttttt i dont live in trinidad and work away and I just wish you guys would but a little bit more quality into your research .....i am nnot about insulting you and repeating insults you used before with others ......."box lunch" hahhahaahah.....i know you and who you are and i am not insulting you but u neeed to do better work mannnnn
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Much thanks for your clarity, and your views, don't mind I may not agree with it, such is life....
ahahahahahah :rotfl: dont get emotional homie ......all i am saying your points are invaild and show lack of knowledge or maybe a lack of the objectivity that is needed by u .....that being said this is a forum and you are entilted to your opinion .....indenpendent of how skewed these opinions are ......and the funny thing is i am a journalist just like you butttttt i dont live in trinidad and work away and I just wish you guys would but a little bit more quality into your research .....i am nnot about insulting you and repeating insults you used before with others ......."box lunch" hahhahaahah.....i know you and who you are and i am not insulting you but u neeed to do better work mannnnn