Post by: andre samuel on August 12, 2010, 07:05:07 AM
BORN in Point Fortin, Trinidad and Tobago, Kenwyne began life as a footballer in his homeland with Joe Public for whom he scored nine goals in just eleven games. His form there attracted the attention of West Connection, and he joined them as an 18 year-old in 2002.
His stock continued to grow there as he scored an incredible 30 goals in 31 games, leading to many national journalists labelling him as the next big thing in Caribbean football, with some even describing his talents as larger than fellow Trinidadian Dwight Yorke.
It wasn't long before Clubs around Europe began to take notice, and he was soon invited for trials with a host of Premier League sides including Manchester United and Chelsea, however it was Southampton who stole a march on their rivals and agreed a deal to take the powerful striker to St. Mary's in 2004.
Kenwyne originally struggled to make an immediate impact on the South Coast and was farmed out on loan to Sheffield Wednesday in a bid to acclimatise him to English football. It was during his two month spell at Hillsborough where he began to recapture the form that attracted the attention of the top flight's leading Clubs.
A goal on his Owls debut against Doncaster Rovers in December 2004 re-energised the towering forward and he didn't look back as he went on to score in each of Wednesday's next six games, earning himself a recall back to the Saints.
He featured in three of their top flight games, partnering Peter Crouch up front, but he failed to recapture his form and was again allowed to leave the Club temporarily, with Tony Pulis swooping to bring him to the Britannia Stadium.
In similar fashion to his spell in Yorkshire, Kenwyne hit the winning goal on his debut for the Club as the Potters beat Millwall 1-0, before impressing further during the rest of his two-month spell in the Potteries.
Talk of a permanent deal for the youngster failed to materialise and upon his return to Southampton, he impressed Gordan Strachan, prompting the Scotsman to start the striker on a more regular basis. However, he failed to help the Saints retain their top flight status as they were relegated down to the Championship.
Lining up alongside current City midfielder Rory Delap, Kenwyne featured prominently throughout the 2005/06 season as they bid to win promotion back into the top flight, but ultimately they failed, having finished level on points with Stoke.
His year was to end on a high note though as he was named in the Trinidad and Tobago World Cup squad, for whom he started in two of their three group games, against Sven Goran Ericsson's England and Paraguay.
The following season would prove to be the 25-year-olds most fruitful to date as he scored 16 goals in 38 games, helping Southampton reach the Championship Play-Offs. They were ultimately beaten in the Semi-Finals though by eventual winners Derby County.
Having scored 22 goals in 80 games for Southampton, Kenwyne had one eye on making a return to the top flight and it came as no surprise when Roy Keane forked out £6m to take him to the Stadium of Light three years ago.
His debut for the Club came against Manchester United in September 2007 and ended his first season on Wearside with a very satisfactory seven goals from 19 starts.
A serious knee injury while on international duty against England in the summer of 2008 hampered his progress, but he marked his return by helping the Black Cats beat rivals Newcastle United in October, and ended the campaign by topping the goalscoring charts having scored 12 goals.
His form alerted the likes of Liverpool, who had an £18m bid turned down in January 2009, whilst Chelsea were also being mooted as potential suitors for the sought after striker. However, speculation regarding his future was brought to an end when he penned a new 4-year deal with the Club.
He continued his fine form last season as he hit the back of the net on nine occasions, including memorable strikes against Manchester United and Manchester City, whilst he marked what would be his final appearance for the Club with a goal in their 2-1 defeat against Wolves on the final day of the season.
ah love it!!
GO STOKE CITY!!
http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10310~2118688,00.html
Current squad
1 GK Asmir Begović
3 DF Danny Higginbotham
4 DF Robert Huth
5 DF Danny Collins
6 MF Glenn Whelan
7 FW Eiður Guðjohnsen
8 MF Tom Soares
9 FW Kenwyne Jones
10 FW Ricardo Fuller
11 FW Mamady Sidibe
12 MF Marc Wilson
14 MF Danny Pugh
15 MF Salif Diao
16 MF Jermaine Pennant (on loan from Real Zaragoza)
17 DF Ryan Shawcross (captain)
18 MF Dean Whitehead
19 FW Jon Walters
20 FW Tuncay Şanlı
21 DF Andrew Davies
23 MF Michael Tonge
24 MF Rory Delap
25 DF Abdoulaye Faye
26 MF Matthew Etherington
27 GK Carlo Nash
28 DF Andy Wilkinson
29 GK Thomas Sørensen
30 DF Ryan Shotton
36 MF Matthew Lund
38 GK Danzelle St Louis-Hamilton
Post by: dinho on August 12, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
but at least adhere to the forever thread format nuh andre...
you have to put it in highly annoying and boldface caps like STOKE CITY FOREVER so that it stand out like a sore thumb on the message board.
Post by: andre samuel on August 12, 2010, 08:00:43 AM
Post by: sammy on August 12, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
:rotfl:
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
i thought u woulda be accustomed by now, being a chelsea supporter and all ;D
Post by: D.H.W on August 12, 2010, 08:31:57 AM
:rotfl:
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
i thought u woulda be accustomed by now, being a chelsea supporter and all ;D
rawwwwrrrr :rotfl: :whip: :whip: :whip: :wavetowel:
Post by: dinho on August 12, 2010, 08:46:51 AM
:rotfl:
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
i thought u woulda be accustomed by now, being a chelsea supporter and all ;D
:rotfl: alright sammy ah go take dat, yuh draw first blood dey.. long season ahead lol.
Post by: andre samuel on August 12, 2010, 10:13:08 AM
Apparently he got a nice sign on bonus.........that played a part in getting him to leave Sunderland.
Post by: JDB on August 12, 2010, 10:21:49 AM
:rotfl:
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
but at least adhere to the forever thread format nuh andre...
you have to put it in highly annoying and boldface caps like STOKE CITY FOREVER so that it stand out like a sore thumb on the message board.
Yuh really ent go like to read this excerpt from the Guardian's (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/aug/10/premier-league-preview-stoke-city) preason Stoke preview:
It is easy to deduce that although Stoke are now an established Premier League force, they are not viewed as a club where forwards can enhance their careers – at least not forwards of the calibre they seek.
It is easy to see why: attackers have to work extremely hard there for relatively little reward – Stoke created fewer shooting opportunities than any other side in the league last season, averaged less possession per game than anyone else (39.6%) and completed fewer passes. Their forwards tend to spend a large amount of their time chasing and closing down and, as a consequence, find themselves under inordinate pressure to take any opportunities that do eventually come their way.
James Beattie and Dave Kitson do not appear to have been able to cope with that and have become disgruntled while Ricardo Fuller, although sometimes brilliant and always willing, has not been able to consistently rise to the challenge either: his shots-to-goals ratio of 5.6% last season was the lowest of any forward in the league. Tuncay Sanli is a classy and energetic player who does not find himself in front of goal as often as he would wish and, perhaps as a result, is being linked with a move. Mamady Sidibe tries hard.
Post by: andre samuel on August 12, 2010, 03:20:09 PM
Post by: Midknight on August 12, 2010, 04:05:15 PM
Post by: weary1969 on August 12, 2010, 06:35:10 PM
Let the waggonism begin anew...
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNN B4 KJ was Stoke who :rotfl:
Post by: PantherX on August 13, 2010, 07:41:28 PM
Post by: D.H.W on August 13, 2010, 07:51:23 PM
Let the waggonism begin anew...
not me, i aint jumping on the waggon nah
Post by: just cool on August 13, 2010, 11:13:48 PM
COSIGN! plus sunlun had yorke, carlos and stern when that thread started.Let the waggonism begin anew...
not me, i aint jumping on the waggon nah
Post by: Socapro on August 14, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
I don't know why we just don't have a 'Kenwyne Jones Forever' thread instead of having to start a new one every time he switches clubs.
I would have personally started one if KJ had scored goals for T&T and helped us qualify for the last World Cup!
Post by: davyjenny1 on August 14, 2010, 05:14:12 AM
Post by: Sam on August 14, 2010, 05:54:58 AM
Post by: truetrini on August 14, 2010, 08:38:39 AM
Amazing goal really yes...goal ah de day fuh sure
Post by: truetrini on August 14, 2010, 08:39:57 AM
Post by: D.H.W on August 14, 2010, 09:23:55 AM
Post by: Socafan on August 15, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Nothing in life is forever.
Except fuh de davyjenny award....
Sorry boss...:-)
Post by: Ngozi on August 16, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
:rotfl:
I still cursing at the thought of having to watch that shit brand on a weekend.
i thought u woulda be accustomed by now, being a chelsea supporter and all ;D
lol dagger
Post by: maxg on September 04, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
Gudjohnsen, Pennant(ah like he), Wilson..if KJ get on the field, Pennant & Gud go find him, and even if he not in the mood, dem could score too
Post by: StoreBayLimer on September 07, 2010, 11:27:58 PM
Gudjohnsen is a very good signing for Stoke
Post by: Flex on September 09, 2010, 05:44:37 PM
W Connection Press Release.
Seventeen year old St. Lucian national Zaine Pierre, one of W Connection’s youngest senior team players left on Wednesday 8th September headed for Gatwick International Airport en route to Stoke City FC where he hopes to impress and secure a permanent dream move to the Premiership League.
The young starlet was offered a ten day trial by the English Premiership team Stoke City Football Club on the heels of fellow teammate Shahdon Winchester’s trial to Celtics FC of the Scottish Premier League.
Stoke City is also home to former W Connection Player Kenwyne Jones who made the move from Sunderland FC less than two months ago.
Zane was recruited in January during the 2010 pre-season period by W Connection’s Technical Director, and fellow countryman Coach Stuart Charles Fevrier.
He has represented St. Lucia both nationally and regionally at the youth level and has been a prolific striker for his Alma mater Vieux Fort Comprehensive in the Secondary School’s League where he took home both the Most Goals and Most Valuable Player awards three years in a row.
Zane has also been recognized at St. Lucia’s National Awards having received the Junior Footballer of the year in 2009 and 2010. For Additional Information, contact the Marketing and Media Department at W Connection Club offices.
Post by: Sando on September 09, 2010, 06:57:41 PM
Post by: nunu on September 12, 2010, 11:59:06 AM
Post by: Peong on September 13, 2010, 12:14:39 PM
I have a feeling KJ is going to get his 1st goal for stoke v Villa tomorrow .
He already has 3.
Post by: Trinidogg on September 13, 2010, 01:11:40 PM
Kenywne just waste a nice chance 1 0n 1 kick the ball to the keeper.
http://atdhe.net/24067/watch-stoke-city-vs-aston-villa
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 13, 2010, 01:20:34 PM
Kenywne just waste a nice chance.I wish I could find a worse word than 'waste' without cussing.
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
Do you have the stoke city message board forum? and could i get it. positive.Kenywne just waste a nice chance.I wish I could find a worse word than 'waste' without cussing.
Post by: Blue on September 13, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:39:31 PM
Post by: Trinidogg on September 13, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
Post by: che on September 13, 2010, 02:40:38 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 13, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=PottersDo you have the stoke city message board forum? and could i get it. positive.Kenywne just waste a nice chance.I wish I could find a worse word than 'waste' without cussing.
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:48:13 PM
Post by: Trinidogg on September 13, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Post by: maxg on September 13, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:55:26 PM
Thanx cory.http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=PottersDo you have the stoke city message board forum? and could i get it. positive.Kenywne just waste a nice chance.I wish I could find a worse word than 'waste' without cussing.
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
Post by: nunu on September 13, 2010, 03:41:56 PM
Post by: Peong on September 13, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
All he need is decent crosses and he will bury that.
Where we findin those for the NT?
Post by: palos on September 13, 2010, 05:27:32 PM
SOURCE: SOCCERNET.COM (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=292851&league=ENG.1&cc=5901)
Updated: September 14, 2010, 3:10 AM ET
Defender Robert Huth snatched an injury-time winner as Stoke came from behind to beat Aston Villa at the Britannia Stadium and get their season off and running.
Club-record signing Kenwyne Jones had earlier marked his home debut with an equaliser to Stewart Downing's 35th-minute header on an emotional night for the Potters.
Manager Tony Pulis missed the first half after the death of his mother earlier in the day but he returned at the interval to inspire the revival.
New Villa boss Gerard Houllier, meanwhile, was absent due to his commitments with the French Football Federation. He hopes to be in the dug-out for Saturday's game against Bolton, but caretaker Kevin McDonald has done an admirable job in trying circumstances since Martin O'Neill walked out on the eve of the season.
Monday night Premier League football has not been kind to Stoke in the past, having failed to score on both previous occasions when they played.
However, the opposite had been true for Villa heading into this match, and they had lost only one of their last 13 top-flight matches at the start of the week.
It seemed that statistic was going to be tested early on as Stoke dominated but could not make their pressure pay.
By contrast, once Villa scored it was all one-way traffic until half-time.
A breakneck pace suited Stoke's high-energy game and they had a number of half-chances, with Robert Huth's shot deflecting off Stephen Warnock to present Brad Friedel with a comfortable save.
Jones had an impressive first appearance in front of his own fans and looked a constant threat to Villa, forcing Friedel into an 11th-minute save having been put through by the deadline-day arrival from Portsmouth, Marc Wilson.
Having headed Matt Etherington's right-wing corner wide, Jones then produced a brilliant piece of skill to chest down Thomas Sorensen's clearance and hit a swerving 25-yard left-footed volley on the turn which the Villa goalkeeper had to parry away.
Villa midfielder Marc Albrighton's received a talking-to for appearing to swipe Dean Whitehead around the head and from that point until the break the visitors took control.
Gabriel Agbonlahor's 35th-minute curling left-footed cross to the far post caught Huth in two minds and he chose the wrong option as he stepped towards the ball only to see it sail over him.
Downing timed his run and dive to perfection, planting a low curling header past Sorensen and in off the right post.
Stoke felt they had justifiable claims for a penalty moments later when James Collins seemed to handle under pressure from Jones but Probert waved away appeals.
Ashley Young should then have put Villa further ahead only to head wide from close range from Agbonlahor's cross when it looked easier to score.
As the half drew to a close Sorensen was the busier goalkeeper, batting away James Collins' close-range drive and then clawing out another Downing effort.
Pulis made an emotional appearance for the second half to take up his position in the technical area, immediately giving the crowd and his team a lift.
Five minutes after the restart Friedel kept out Jones' header from Etherington's free-kick, with the goalkeeper then pawing away Rory Delap's long throw under pressure from the Trinidad and Tobago international as Etherington's follow-up was blocked.
Stoke were back in the ascendancy but their hard work was almost undone by a misunderstanding between Ryan Shawcross and Sorensen which resulted in the goalkeeper blasting the ball at Nigel Reo-Coker and back over his own crossbar.
However, their endeavour finally paid off in the 80th minute when Ricardo Fuller combined with Etherington on the left of the penalty area and the winger sent over the ideal cross for Jones to head home.
The former Sunderland striker pulled out his trademark somersault celebration but despite the equaliser Stoke still had to be alert and Shawcross deflected Reo-Coker's shot behind in the last five minutes.
Deep into the three minutes of injury-time, though, Jermaine Pennant's free-kick dropped to Etherington and his shot was deflected in by Huth to secure the home side's first win of the season.
Post by: chelsealife on September 13, 2010, 05:41:14 PM
Ah tell allyuh, KJ is ah damn good player, he just unlucky tuh be on weak teams right through.Nobody doubts it. He just need to do it week in, week out and then he'll get a good look from one of the big teams (Not Liverpool). 10-15 this season in this Stoke team will be a good return for him. Hope he stays fit from now to at least March. Man of the Match today, i was impressed. Keep it up :beermug:
Post by: dinho on September 13, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
I could see the Etherington-KJ connection bearing fruit this season.
Post by: royal on September 13, 2010, 07:59:21 PM
Kenwyne interview
http://www.skysports.com/video/clips/0,23791,12606_6375802,00.html
Post by: saga pinto on September 13, 2010, 08:06:28 PM
Post by: Bakes on September 13, 2010, 08:10:26 PM
Post by: just cool on September 13, 2010, 08:21:49 PM
They said on the PA system that KJ won the man of the match, now i seeing is ethrington. stueeppsss.
Kenwyne interview
http://www.skysports.com/video/clips/0,23791,12606_6375802,00.html
Post by: Trinimassive on September 13, 2010, 11:33:26 PM
He need to keep it up though. Hope is not just because it was a home debut
Post by: Kingk on September 14, 2010, 02:05:51 AM
Any highlights anyone?
http://premtube.com/stovsastr.html
Post by: E-man on September 15, 2010, 12:40:37 PM
By Dave Smith (givemefootball.com)
Kenwyne Jones pay his own personal tribute to Tony Pulis
Kenwyne Jones has added to the chorus of tributes being paid to Tony Pulis after inspiring Stoke’s win against Aston Villa on Monday night after the sad passing of his mother.
Having seen his side head into half time 1-0 down, Pulis made a surprise appearance in the dressing room. And his team talk certainly did the trick as goals from Jones and Robert Huth secured City’s first win of the season.
"I've never seen anything like that," said the Trinidad & Tobago international. “Many would take time off and grieve for such a loss.
"I guess Tony was grieving but it spurred him on to come back and do what he loves.
"I'm not being disrespectful. He understands his mother lived a full life, no-one likes to lose a family member. In the coming days I'm sure he will celebrate her life.
"We were surprised to see him, we didn't expect he'd be in the dressing room. But the manager showed his passion for the club and for this team. He came out and did his job.
"It did inspire us. Sometimes the passion of football overrides everything else."
(http://www.givemefootball.com/GMF/files/03/035b08d0-e3a7-4edb-9ae1-b5639cff83ab.jpg)
Post by: Flex on September 19, 2010, 05:42:48 AM
Assistant boss Dave Kemp bemoans injuries after draw with West Ham...
By Nick Price at the Britannia Stadium.
Stoke City forward Eidur Gudjohnsen has made clear his belief that he should be in manager Tony Pulis' starting XI when fully fit.
The former Chelsea, Barcelona, Tottenham and Monaco man made his debut after coming off the bench to replace Jonathan Walters in Saturday's 1-1 draw against West Ham United.
Asked about his performance, the Icelandic international told Goal.com UK: "It was 15 minutes, so I don't want to look too much into it.
"I would have liked to have got into the game, obviously, but we should have won it if you look at the way we pressurised them in the first half of an hour of the second half."
Oh his fitness, Gudjohnsen explained: "I think it's pretty clear that I'm [not fully fit], if I was I'd like to think that I would have played.
"We're getting there though, I've worked really hard and I'm happy to have been involved today and to have made bigger steps towards starting.
"For myself, I've been waiting to make my debut and it was nice to have got involved."
Gudjohnsen's introduction was expedited by injury, as fellow summer signing Walters had to be hauled off after picking up a knock.
Assistant boss Dave Kemp told reporters after the game that injuries had set Stoke City back.
"Every time we seemed to get ahead of steam we seemed to get an injury to a forward player," he said.
"We kept changing the players, not by choice but by necessity because they kept getting injured. That broke the game up for us a little bit."
Kemp confirmed that Kenwyne Jones, who netted the equaliser, had picked up a groin injury, with Jermaine Pennant also limping out with a possible hamstring problem.
The two combined for the goal, and Kemp singled out the former Liverpool winger for praise.
"He [Pennant] did brilliant for the goal," he said, "He's bright and, particularly for a new player, he's fitted in very well - he does what we want him to do," he added.
"Kenwyne will thrive on the service of Jermaine and Matthew Etherington; I have high hopes for it, but we need to do more from it than we did today."
Post by: maxg on September 19, 2010, 06:01:53 PM
"Ah think Stoke just up they chances of ah tie, maybe even ah win with this three
Gudjohnsen, Pennant(ah like he), Wilson..if KJ get on the field, Pennant & Gud go find him, and even if he not in the mood, dem could score too"
Post by: Peong on September 19, 2010, 07:13:14 PM
If Jones get 5 crosses like that he scorin a hattrick at least.
If Stoke buy Beckham they will win the EPL.
Post by: maxg on September 19, 2010, 08:19:44 PM
Very few strikers in the world would have scored that header.I feel Pennant just as good doh he ent marry no Spice and to dark to pinup, buh we'll see....peronally on dat goal doh, true many strikers won't score that cause the goalie would normally knock dem and the ball out..hope he bravery don't cause him anudda injury...
If Jones get 5 crosses like that he scorin a hattrick at least.
If Stoke buy Beckham they will win the EPL.
ps: dis ain't no goat mouth, juss ah be careful whisper
Post by: Blue on September 21, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Post by: frico on September 21, 2010, 02:31:34 PM
If KJ had scored 1/2 the amount that he missed we would have strolled it to Africa. 8)I don't know why we just don't have a 'Kenwyne Jones Forever' thread instead of having to start a new one every time he switches clubs.
I would have personally started one if KJ had scored goals for T&T and helped us qualify for the last World Cup!
Post by: Trinidogg on September 21, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
Post by: College on September 21, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
3 games in a row jones score in keep it up :beermug:
If KJ had scored 1/2 the amount that he missed we would have strolled it to Africa. 8)I don't know why we just don't have a 'Kenwyne Jones Forever' thread instead of having to start a new one every time he switches clubs.
I would have personally started one if KJ had scored goals for T&T and helped us qualify for the last World Cup!
If he had received half the service he getting now, we might have gone ;D
Post by: Peong on September 21, 2010, 06:39:30 PM
If KJ had scored 1/2 the amount that he missed we would have strolled it to Africa. 8)I don't know why we just don't have a 'Kenwyne Jones Forever' thread instead of having to start a new one every time he switches clubs.
I would have personally started one if KJ had scored goals for T&T and helped us qualify for the last World Cup!
KJ wasn't gettin anyting to miss.
Post by: Socapro on September 21, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
If KJ had scored 1/2 the amount that he missed we would have strolled it to Africa. 8)I don't know why we just don't have a 'Kenwyne Jones Forever' thread instead of having to start a new one every time he switches clubs.
I would have personally started one if KJ had scored goals for T&T and helped us qualify for the last World Cup!
KJ wasn't gettin anyting to miss.
Yuh memory bad, he missed a few but thats water under d bridge now!
Post by: fatimarima on September 21, 2010, 08:23:46 PM
Kenwyne strikes again, 2-0 vs Fulham in the League Cup (a header from a Delap throw-in) :beermug:
Any video clip? Post it nah man...ah tusty to see all goals donated by a Trini
Post by: Midknight on September 21, 2010, 10:14:47 PM
I really hope he keeps the hunger - that seems to be the determining factor in his performances or lack thereof to date.
Post by: theworm2345 on September 21, 2010, 10:17:54 PM
The highlights show isn't until tomorrow night, I will post it up when they show it in this threadKenwyne strikes again, 2-0 vs Fulham in the League Cup (a header from a Delap throw-in) :beermug:
Any video clip? Post it nah man...ah tusty to see all goals donated by a Trini
Post by: fatimarima on September 21, 2010, 11:13:13 PM
Post by: andre samuel on September 22, 2010, 06:19:06 AM
ah love it!!
Post by: theworm2345 on September 22, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
...and HQ highlights (http://www.multiupload.com/H5GICLY1EH) (lookout for a shithound missing the open goal at 39 seconds :devil:)
Post by: dinho on October 02, 2010, 08:21:01 AM
His vertical leap is something else, he does real get up.
Post by: chelsealife on October 02, 2010, 08:30:18 AM
Post by: fitzinho on October 02, 2010, 08:53:54 AM
He giving Blackburn a hard time right now :beermug:Link??
Post by: maxg on October 02, 2010, 08:56:57 AM
yes please...ADthe sayin I need a Vshare update, my antivirus saying when it try to install that it is malware...end ah story no game....anybody have another link please....or my antivirus liying...ah juss want somebody to tell meh it lyingHe giving Blackburn a hard time right now :beermug:Link??
Post by: Sam on October 02, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
Post by: maxg on October 02, 2010, 09:13:44 AM
http://www.rajangan.net/thanks Sam, will give ah try
add: like ah shit outta luck, the thing just buffering...ok, go have to be better prepared next time
Post by: theworm2345 on October 02, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
yes please...ADthe sayin I need a Vshare update, my antivirus saying when it try to install that it is malware...end ah story no game....anybody have another link please....or my antivirus liying...ah juss want somebody to tell meh it lyingI installed it and neither Malwarebytes nor Windows Security Essentials picked it up, but I think I might regret it later :banginghead:
Kenwyne's flick on led to Stoke's goal
Post by: chelsealife on October 02, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
Post by: dinho on October 02, 2010, 10:17:20 AM
alot of those atdhe links asking for that plugin lately.
Post by: maxg on October 02, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
Post by: Sam on October 22, 2010, 01:45:44 PM
Stoke (from): Sorensen, Huth, Faye, Collins, Shawcross, Delap, Etherington, Pennant, Whelan, Whitehead, Jones, Walters, Fuller, Gudjohnsen, Wilkinson, Higginbotham, Wilson, Begovic, Diao, Tuncay.
United (from): Van der Sar, Kuszczak, O'Shea, Brown, Rafael, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Smalling, Evra, Fabio, Nani, Obertan, Scholes, Fletcher, Carrick, Gibson, Anderson, Park, Giggs, Berbatov, Macheda, Hernandez.
• Stoke's Matthew Etherington has provided 50% of his team's assists this season, the highest proportion in the division
• Since Wayne Rooney moved to United in 2004, he has scored more top-flight goals than any other player (92)
• Manchester United have drawn all four of their league away matches this season
• This is United's second least productive start to a season since the Premier League's inception
• Stoke have hit the wood-work more times (9) than any other top flight team this term
PS: Please merge after game.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 22, 2010, 01:56:10 PM
VDSEvraVidicRioRafaelParkScholesFletcherNaniChicharitoBerbaPost by: Touches on October 22, 2010, 01:58:49 PM
Give Small M, Giggsy, DHW, Truthseeker, Duscam, Triniairman, Cantona, Truwarrior, JDB and d rest of closet supporters more grief for the week.
Kenwyne goal off a Delap long throw.
1-0 to Stoke FT
Post by: just cool on October 22, 2010, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: D.H.W on October 22, 2010, 02:14:57 PM
So wait, they resting rooney until january??
he injured
Post by: palos on October 22, 2010, 04:41:39 PM
So wait, they resting rooney until january??
he injured
In he forkane head
Post by: Flex on October 23, 2010, 08:24:54 AM
http://www.firstrow.net/
Post by: mukumsplau on October 23, 2010, 08:48:15 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl:So wait, they resting rooney until january??
he injured
In he forkane head
Post by: Preacher on October 23, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Post by: truetrini on October 23, 2010, 01:57:10 PM
How this game end?I will let you kmow tomorrow after it play.
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2010, 02:04:41 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on October 23, 2010, 02:07:04 PM
Post by: weary1969 on October 23, 2010, 05:50:43 PM
This is a funny thread! ;D
Like most threads in these parts.
Post by: dinho on October 23, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
Disgruntled whey de banner?
Post by: D.H.W on October 23, 2010, 06:07:23 PM
Why is this thread still here??
Disgruntled whey de banner?
u ent see SAM say merge after the game? :devil:
Post by: Preacher on October 23, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
How this game end?I will let you kmow tomorrow after it play.
Ah deserve dat ;D
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 07:04:08 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 07:08:35 AM
Post by: sammy on October 24, 2010, 07:22:22 AM
berba getting real fustrated
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 07:51:43 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:06:22 AM
Jones have to do better with his pace off the ball. As a Striker...you can't be waiting to get everything as a header. Make some darting runs, diag. on the shoulder of the D something a little less predictable.u list all his flaws
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 08:11:37 AM
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 08:12:52 AM
Jones have to do better with his pace off the ball. As a Striker...you can't be waiting to get everything as a header. Make some darting runs, diag. on the shoulder of the D something a little less predictable.u list all his flaws
A blind man could see...No need to list. ;D
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:15:35 AM
That's how players play....GOAL!!!!before the goal Jones taking so long to pass d ball, d man looking lazy
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:17:41 AM
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 08:18:38 AM
That's how players play....GOAL!!!!before the goal Jones taking so long to pass d ball, d man looking lazy
One speed does make u look like that. Especially if u jogging. He really needs to look more hungry and believe that he can go by his player.
Post by: Bakes on October 24, 2010, 08:22:00 AM
dat mexican is poison 2-1 :D
How... for being in the right place at the proverbial right time? The ball take a lucky bounce off ah Evra flub, which then deflected off the defense to Hernandez. I do give him credit for putting himself in position to score and fate rewarded him with the lucky bounce. Not sure about the "poison" part... yet.
Going back to Tuncay goal doh... Evra get skin out like ah Trini slap chop. Brilliant finish, past a rapidly aging Van Der Sar.
Post by: Babalawo on October 24, 2010, 08:22:37 AM
Post by: Socafan on October 24, 2010, 08:24:18 AM
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:26:34 AM
Post by: Trinidogg on October 24, 2010, 08:28:27 AM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.To be fair you cah say that for all his games this season only the last 2 he playing d arse other than that other games man was looking hungry attacking everything...
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 08:31:32 AM
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Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 08:32:22 AM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Yeah if you waiting for scrap headers or accurate pass to ur head you'll be in trouble. U must be able to create. Even if u doh go by ur man a couple yards left or right in the box could be a goal. But u must be able the accelerate for that. He just leaving me confused.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on October 24, 2010, 08:38:24 AM
We are back... Chicharito!!!!!
I buy my Chicharito shirt last month .. my boy score 4 in 3 starts since I get it yes.... love that kid
Post by: g on October 24, 2010, 08:47:01 AM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Yeah if you waiting for scrap headers or accurate pass to ur head you'll be in trouble. U must be able to create. Even if u doh go by ur man a couple yards left or right in the box could be a goal. But u must be able the accelerate for that. He just leaving me confused.
Ah find everytime he have to play against either Terry of Vidic he seems to not give his all. Is almost like he concede that those two will always get the better of him. I hope it's not the case
Post by: fitzinho on October 24, 2010, 08:50:51 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on October 24, 2010, 08:51:20 AM
BOOM f**kING BANG
We are back... Chicharito!!!!!
I buy my Chicharito shirt last month .. my boy score 4 in 3 starts since I get it yes.... love that kid
Please don't give him and us the kiss of death! Just focus on Wazza! ;D To be honest we need tuh clean out players and evra and o'shea needs to play less if we are going to rise again. To much mediocrity on the field.
Post by: Socapro on October 24, 2010, 09:45:44 AM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Yeah if you waiting for scrap headers or accurate pass to ur head you'll be in trouble. U must be able to create. Even if u doh go by ur man a couple yards left or right in the box could be a goal. But u must be able the accelerate for that. He just leaving me confused.
That's the exact problem we had and will continue to have with KJ whenever he is called up to play for T&T!
This is the main reason KJ can't shine SJ's shoes! ;)
Post by: Observer on October 24, 2010, 10:25:32 AM
Post by: rotatopoti3 on October 24, 2010, 10:58:44 AM
Tuh me he game plan iz to win ball in d air and hope for d best....nothing else..
I feel he better of coming on for 1 half....maybe then d team goe benefit more...
Post by: Deeks on October 24, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 11:33:53 AM
what a contrast between chicarito and KJ. Imagine they may meet in the WC qualifiers. Mex. will have probably contain KJ. Can TT contain Javier?
dat mexican have pace sah
Post by: giggsy11 on October 24, 2010, 11:45:18 AM
what a contrast between chicarito and KJ. Imagine they may meet in the WC qualifiers. Mex. will have probably contain KJ. Can TT contain Javier?
dat mexican have pace sah
And football smarts and is instinctive something Jones lacks in abundance!
Post by: ckhan on October 24, 2010, 11:46:18 AM
Post by: truetrini on October 24, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.\\
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
yuh is ah manager?
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 12:14:18 PM
That's the exact problem we had and will continue to have with KJ whenever he is called up to play for T&T!Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
Yeah if you waiting for scrap headers or accurate pass to ur head you'll be in trouble. U must be able to create. Even if u doh go by ur man a couple yards left or right in the box could be a goal. But u must be able the accelerate for that. He just leaving me confused.
This is the main reason KJ can't shine SJ's shoes! ;)
If that's the scene then he has to come of the bench for us, if he in the colors at all. Way to one dimensional IMHO
Post by: Preacher on October 24, 2010, 12:17:21 PM
what a contrast between chicarito and KJ. Imagine they may meet in the WC qualifiers. Mex. will have probably contain KJ. Can TT contain Javier?
Emphatically Yes!!!! Assuming the right tactical plan in place. He is a good young player BUT we've held way better players. Not saying he may not score but it's not a bound to score situation.
Post by: Bourbon on October 24, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
Admittedly he younger than Jones...but....if he could do it..why not Jones? Yes de man may be lacking in some departments but the attributes he has....you cant teach. So why not?
Post by: dinho on October 24, 2010, 12:27:47 PM
One bad game up against Ferdinand and Vidic and all this noise?
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
Post by: maxg on October 24, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
I distinctly remember reading an article that i cant put my hands on now...about 2 years ago...how Hernandez and almost everybody around him never thought he would amount to anything as a player. Yet somebody stuck with him and got him to work hard...and he improved.Unfortunately because of KJ size and abilities, Teams with him prefer to have him as a particular Role player....If they want running around and leaving markers, they will play someone else, but some managers like the KJ,Heskey style, probably since they personally had some measure of success with it, and that role player...Yuh won't have a Chicarito, standing with their stopper, trying for head balls, and slowing down defences coming forward...it is a startegy, thats KJ role...If the TT coach want KJ to play another role, then he will organize his attacking plays & passes coming forward differently, and have a KJ play to different instructions....Maybe, just maybe, if the coach not changing the man, is cause he doing exactly as the coach request of him....or ppl think he should say, tohellwithhe, I go try to make runs as my warrior-nation want meh to, so I could show dem how I could play for TT and TTFF, big org, big team, Big Country, plenty ah de best players, and I wah be better than the master himself, SJ, even if ppl in the EPL wanted to pay me, who cyah fit in he shoes, more pounds...rah rah rah :D
Admittedly he younger than Jones...but....if he could do it..why not Jones? Yes de man may be lacking in some departments but the attributes he has....you cant teach. So why not?
Post by: Mose on October 24, 2010, 12:39:45 PM
Just last week Jones was silencing critics and it was level plaudits..Frustration! After doing well last week people was looking for more.
One bad game up against Ferdinand and Vidic and all this noise?
Post by: Bakes on October 24, 2010, 01:41:30 PM
Unlike Adebayor though, his one critical flaw is that he's unable to create anything for himself, and either lacks the confidence or ability to take up the ball and run at defenders. That's something I've never really seen KJ do... how on earth do you function as a striker w/o that component being a part of your game? As a result, he has to be optimally positioned in order to score goals, hence the criticism about "waiting on the perfect pass".
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 24, 2010, 01:42:30 PM
Just last week Jones was silencing critics and it was level plaudits..Actually, he was bad last week against Bolton, too. But yuh point still stands. A couple bad games after a steadily good start and de knives come out.
One bad game up against Ferdinand and Vidic and all this noise?
Post by: Socapro on October 24, 2010, 02:26:45 PM
Just last week Jones was silencing critics and it was level plaudits..Actually, he was bad last week against Bolton, too. But yuh point still stands. A couple bad games after a steadily good start and de knives come out.
One bad game up against Ferdinand and Vidic and all this noise?
Can folks not comment and say what they thought of KJ's performance without other folks feeling that the knives are out for him?
Once comments are based upon the facts then I don't see it as an attack but rather as honest feedback whick if KJ was to heed can only help him improve his game!
Don't be so over-sensitve guys, we all want to see KJ do it when it matters most! ;)
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 24, 2010, 03:06:02 PM
I talked about his performance too, stating that he was also bad against Bolton.Just last week Jones was silencing critics and it was level plaudits..Actually, he was bad last week against Bolton, too. But yuh point still stands. A couple bad games after a steadily good start and de knives come out.
One bad game up against Ferdinand and Vidic and all this noise?
Can folks not comment and say what they thought of KJ's performance without other folks feeling that the knives are out for him?
Once comments are based upon the facts then I don't see it as an attack but rather as honest feedback whick if KJ was to heed can only help him improve his game!
Don't be so over-sensitve guys, we all want to see KJ do it when it matters most! ;)
Men going beyond specific perfomances, though.
Post by: Babalawo on October 24, 2010, 03:12:06 PM
Post by: D.H.W on October 24, 2010, 04:04:21 PM
Post by: Brownsugar on October 24, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
Let the waggonism begin anew...
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNN B4 KJ was Stoke who :rotfl:
Well girl this is first time I check this thread cuz all this time I passing it, saying to mih self Stoke who??... ??? :devil: ;D
Post by: andre samuel on October 24, 2010, 06:00:16 PM
you prove yuh worth against big teams, today he fail that test. Not a single intentional shot at goal? stueps.
Actually, Kenwyne has a very good scoring record against the big four.
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 06:07:18 PM
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
Post by: truetrini on October 24, 2010, 06:11:15 PM
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 06:15:27 PM
Beating up on KJ has become a favorite pastime and truthfully much of it is the result of overreaction in my mind. That said KJ is indeed very frustrating to watch/root for... it's Sunderland all over again. For all the talk about comparisons to Drogba (many moons ago), I think his best model is really Adebayor, in terms of his best attributes, size, physicality and aerial dominance.ah guess you didn't watch the first game of the season on the play where he got injured? i've seen him do it @ sunlun a few times and stoke as well, forinstance when rob green saved his diagonal shot against westham, he also made ah run down the flank today and challenged west brown, but the defender got the best of him.
Unlike Adebayor though, his one critical flaw is that he's unable to create anything for himself, and either lacks the confidence or ability to take up the ball and run at defenders. That's something I've never really seen KJ do... how on earth do you function as a striker w/o that component being a part of your game? As a result, he has to be optimally positioned in order to score goals, hence the criticism about "waiting on the perfect pass".
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
he doh be offsides cause he eh running..lolWhat about, not runnin for nothing. fellas does only run up and down in vain BC they don't understand the game, when ah man run he must make it count.
Post by: dinho on October 24, 2010, 06:20:09 PM
Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Post by: truetrini on October 24, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Yuh know when he was at Sunderland that was the same game plan....win headers, dem was looking to play no finesse splitting on defense either......yet Bent score plenty goals just so, running at defense, positions play and astute running off the ball....hmmmmm
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 06:26:29 PM
tuncay or gudjohnson was nowhere near the play when he got the ball, he had tuh hold up the ball BC the defense was pressuring and guj was in ah hole. the play run right BC tuncay buss the net! best play of the game for me, real creative.Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
Bent eh score ah goal in five games from open play, only penalties. as ah matter of fact, the last goal he scored from open play was against man city in the dying seconds of the game.Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Yuh know when he was at Sunderland that was the same game plan....win headers, dem was looking to play no finesse splitting on defense either......yet Bent score plenty goals just so, running at defense, positions play and astute running off the ball....hmmmmm
Post by: truetrini on October 24, 2010, 06:37:43 PM
Bent eh score ah goal in five games from open play, only penalties. as ah matter of fact, the last goal he scored from open play was against man city in the dying seconds of the game.Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Yuh know when he was at Sunderland that was the same game plan....win headers, dem was looking to play no finesse splitting on defense either......yet Bent score plenty goals just so, running at defense, positions play and astute running off the ball....hmmmmm
I was refrring to last season when Sunderland was playing the Stoke brand ah ball and KJ was dere with him fella.
Post by: Peong on October 24, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Yuh gone back how many games to show 1 instance of KJ takin the ball to the defenders.
I know the objective just cool would not be proud of what yuh doin dey.
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 07:55:44 PM
I understood loud and clear, but what i meant to say is, was it possible that KJ's hard work on and off the ball, leaning on defenders and doing all the donkey work allowed bent the freedom and the space tuh poison defenses?Bent eh score ah goal in five games from open play, only penalties. as ah matter of fact, the last goal he scored from open play was against man city in the dying seconds of the game.Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Yuh know when he was at Sunderland that was the same game plan....win headers, dem was looking to play no finesse splitting on defense either......yet Bent score plenty goals just so, running at defense, positions play and astute running off the ball....hmmmmm
I was refrring to last season when Sunderland was playing the Stoke brand ah ball and KJ was dere with him fella.
and a good reason for thinking such is the fact that bent can't score from open play to save his life this season. i believe it's BC there's no decoy to draw defenders away from him and now he's ah recipient of the double team.
it's ah fact since john terry made those comments about jones, he's been ah target of double team in the prem as well as in international games, just watch how bocanegra and onyewo does stick to the bredder when we play dem.
Post by: just cool on October 24, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Just cool yuh comin across as desperate to defend KJ against criticism.Breds, for all who talking down KJ, it's obvious they don't understand the professional game. yuh ever wonder why KJ and bruce couldn't gree? maybe it's BC KJ didn't like how the coach was using him and maybe he rebelled by doing the opposite.
Yuh gone back how many games to show 1 instance of KJ takin the ball to the defenders.
I know the objective just cool would not be proud of what yuh doin dey.
sometimes in the professional game ah coach could take away a lot from yuh game by giving yuh an unprefered task, just look @ rubinho @ man city, he was not allowed to play his prefered style and his game suffered rendering him ineffective.
sometimes ah coach would tell yuh tuh use the lanes sparingly or lay off the ball in order to free up other players, or put ah body on such and such a player, especially playing against ah top team like manU. it's not always as cut and dry as we the fans view it.
BTW, did you watch the game today? if yuh did, then i guess yuh noticed how rio and vidic was on the fella like white on rice right? i don't know bout you , but if yuh being double teamed, and yuh service poor while playing along side ah strike pardner who don't create shyte for yuh, how in the world could ah player strive under those conditions?
i eh defending KJ desperately, but rather, stating the obvious. sometimes an objective view does show us a lot of things we normally miss when we looking @ things head on.
Post by: g on October 24, 2010, 09:03:11 PM
Key is how he responds, watching the game today to be honest i was wishing for him to flatten Vidic to send a message that while you want to play strong, I COULD PLAY STRONGER.
It just never seemed to materialize so the beatings will continue.
Post by: kev on October 24, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Bent eh score ah goal in five games from open play, only penalties. as ah matter of fact, the last goal he scored from open play was against man city in the dying seconds of the game.Weh allyuh know bout football?? what if the man playing to the coaches instructions? what is his part in the last two games was to free up his strike partner and absorb all the pressure?
allyuh does be talking bout KJ positional play, but he's one of the cleanest forwards in the game, how many times do you see KJ off side, and if yuh want to compare him to stern, and no disrespect to stern , but he's the off side king! like today, KJ held up the ball well to bring tuncay and godjonson in the play which resulted in a goal.
allyuh expect too much from KJ, is not like the man playing with spurs chelsea or man city, the team have very little quality!
walters on the other hand has no sense of positional play and he just runnin for nothing, he rarely brings KJ into the game or create some sort of scoring opportunity, but look how much space and opportunity KJ creates for him.
the man came up against the best defense in the prem and did ok for himself, and even though he didn't look dangerous today with reo and vidic hanging all over him, one of the few chances he got he played it well that resulted in a goal.
in order for KJ's full potential to be seen, he has to play with an arsenal or chelsea, but once again he's back on ah hoof and jump team, come on ppl, what more allyuh expect, he must look poor on ah poor team.
This is close to my sentiments..
I miss most of the first half, picked up the game in the second. Honestly people, how much ball in the second half he really get that he could have done better with? How much bad trap or poor touches he put down today? From what I can see, KJ's mandate on this team is 1. to win headers from the hoof kick coming from the keeper or them big defenders in the back, 2. win headers off them Delap long throws, 3. If he gets it to foot he have to hold up the play, knock off to the wingers or the support and then go to goal where the wingers or defenders will try to float one up for him to butt.
This side not playing no through ball or looking to slice open any defense with finesse. It have no opportunities for him to pick up no ball and run at no defence, this side is about hard graft. Whole day all the man trying to do is jump with Rio and Vidic and win header, and to make matters worse he was being double teamed so he wasnt winning much. Allyuh think Sir Alex didn't read them fellas the memo on KJ??
And by the way, I actually find he do shit on the goal. He pick up the ball in the middle facing up to the Man U central defenders and was supposed to give Gudjohnsen a one-bounce wide from early but end up dilly-dallying. Lucky for him the whole play didnt break down there and then.
Yuh know when he was at Sunderland that was the same game plan....win headers, dem was looking to play no finesse splitting on defense either......yet Bent score plenty goals just so, running at defense, positions play and astute running off the ball....hmmmmm
Hi JC how you keeping.
Just like to say, Bent is out of form at the minute, hasn't really started the season well, his touch is off and had a few niggles. But he doesn't like playing the lone target man and has said it himself on a couple of occasions, but we have played 451 in the vast majority of games, but he will still end up well into double figures / top teens come the end of the season barring a serious injury of course.
I expected to see an improvement in Kenwyne's form with the move, but as I have said before its about what he plays like back end of the season / next season. I like Kenwyne and make a point of watching him play and wish him well, but the stream I was watching had one of the Stoke coaches as co commentator and he said there's no point in playing him if you are not going to set the team up to his strengths, high balls into the area. Stoke bought him for what he is, not what he could be and thats how they will play.
Post by: maxg on October 25, 2010, 06:56:58 AM
Xactly
Post by: Peong on October 25, 2010, 07:55:01 AM
The real test for me is if KJ gets criticism from the coach after performances like this one.
kev did the Stoke coach say anything about Stoke's attack? Like if the wingers or KJ weren't doing enough?
Post by: Bitter on October 25, 2010, 08:55:46 AM
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9 - Stoke have hit the woodwork nine times already this term. Striker Kenwyne Jones has struck the frame of the goal more times than any other player, having done so four times.
Post by: Peong on October 25, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
Post by: ckhan on October 25, 2010, 10:37:54 AM
The reality is that he is the focal point of the offense and teams pay specific attention towards him and the preferred method is to rough him up. And players like Vidic and Terry are very uncompromising in their physical play.
Key is how he responds, watching the game today to be honest i was wishing for him to flatten Vidic to send a message that while you want to play strong, I COULD PLAY STRONGER.
It just never seemed to materialize so the beatings will continue.
I agree with this statement...put dem fellas tuh eat grass at least once each half!!!
Post by: Coop's on October 25, 2010, 11:30:42 AM
The reality is that he is the focal point of the offense and teams pay specific attention towards him and the preferred method is to rough him up. And players like Vidic and Terry are very uncompromising in their physical play.Sometimes when listen to you guys it makes me feel like Kenwyne is the only forward does get beat up in the EPL,we making all kind of excuses for why he playing the way he does,tell me a forward does get beat up more than Tevez and that's just one i call,that fella is a beast to take all that licks and continue to play the way he plays.Once you develop a name you going to be targeted and Kenwyne have to expect that, he playing in that league long enough.
Key is how he responds, watching the game today to be honest i was wishing for him to flatten Vidic to send a message that while you want to play strong, I COULD PLAY STRONGER.
It just never seemed to materialize so the beatings will continue.
I don't why peeps overacting to how Kenwyne plays,the thing is this is Kenwyne,take it or leave it he has limitations something we all know,if teams want to acquire him for certain attributes fine but don't expect to see a Messi type player when he is not,he is big and teams want him to go in there and use that big body so we have to expect he will get beat up.He has a different problem when he plays for T&T because it calls for a different game,more movement,finesse etc etc
Post by: ckhan on October 25, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
we making all kind of excuses for why he playing the way he does,tell me a forward does get beat up more than Tevez and that's just one i call,that fella is a beast to take all that licks and continue to play the way he plays.Once you develop a name you going to be targeted and Kenwyne have to expect that, he playing in that league long enough. - (I was not making an excuse but would like to see an improvement, hence be more physical and be consistent).
I don't why peeps overacting to how Kenwyne plays,the thing is this is Kenwyne,take it or leave it he has limitations something we all know,if teams want to acquire him for certain attributes fine but don't expect to see a Messi type player when he is not,he is big and teams want him to go in there and use that big body so we have to expect he will get beat up.He has a different problem when he plays for T&T because it calls for a different game,more movement,finesse etc etc - (I don't think it an overaction when you genuinely want to see improvement on a player that has potential. Yes he was hired to play a particular role but why not learn other skillsets from other players from your team or players from other teams. It will only improve his marketability and command a higher salary.)
Post by: Coop's on October 25, 2010, 12:15:16 PM
Sometimes when listen to you guys it makes me feel like Kenwyne is the only forward does get beat up in the EPL - (That maybe so but other forwards of his physical built and presence are handling these situations consistenly such as the Andy Carroll's, Emil Heskey et al)Good reasoning :beermug: :beermug:
we making all kind of excuses for why he playing the way he does,tell me a forward does get beat up more than Tevez and that's just one i call,that fella is a beast to take all that licks and continue to play the way he plays.Once you develop a name you going to be targeted and Kenwyne have to expect that, he playing in that league long enough. - (I was not making an excuse but would like to see an improvement, hence be more physical and be consistent).
I don't why peeps overacting to how Kenwyne plays,the thing is this is Kenwyne,take it or leave it he has limitations something we all know,if teams want to acquire him for certain attributes fine but don't expect to see a Messi type player when he is not,he is big and teams want him to go in there and use that big body so we have to expect he will get beat up.He has a different problem when he plays for T&T because it calls for a different game,more movement,finesse etc etc - (I don't think it an overaction when you genuinely want to see improvement on a player that has potential. Yes he was hired to play a particular role but why not learn other skillsets from other players from your team or players from other teams. It will only improve his marketability and command a higher salary.)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 25, 2010, 12:24:27 PM
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Post by: Coop's on October 25, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).May be you are right,KJ is the most targetted player in the EPL,he so good nobody gives him a chance poor Kenwyne they does brutalize him,to be honest Kenwyne is a big baby,when he stops crying he will have a better game.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Post by: Arazi on October 25, 2010, 12:47:40 PM
Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Umm..in all fairness, Tevez does take rel physical play too eh and even if the level may in your opinion be less than Kenwyne is given, for Tevez's size the amount of fight he puts into battling off physically bigger defenders is twice what KJ does, I honestly don't think that was a bad person to compare in terms of physicality...
Post by: ckhan on October 25, 2010, 12:54:44 PM
Oye, I jes saying dat de man need to bounce dem off and look like he hungry ah likkle more. Is dat asking too much?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 25, 2010, 01:06:44 PM
Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).May be you are right,KJ is the most targetted player in the EPL,he so good nobody gives him a chance poor Kenwyne they does brutalize him,to be honest Kenwyne is a big baby,when he stops crying he will have a better game.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
I expected better buh say wha. I never see man literally jumpin on Tevez back de way dey does ride KJ like ah f**kin farm donkey. My comment had nutten to do with skill but specifically about phsical punishment.
Arazi Tevez does get he share but it's not the same. Most times Tevez too fast for the likes of Terry, Rio, Vidic, Dunn etc to ketch muchless throw all their weight on him. Tell me when last you saw Tevez waitin fuh ah ball in the air while ah man ridin he shoulders to get it. Dat happens numerous times every single game to KJ. If dem size players was phsically on top of Tevez every single game is no way he couls make ah season widout breakin down
Ckhan yuh eh axin too much nah. I myself would love to see dat but in all fairness we only see what de camera shows. I eh puttin it past none ah dem stinkaz to be doin shit when de ref eh seein to further frustrate KJ. Yuh think dem men eh know he could probably knock dem out buh just like Ilunga lass year dey will poke and poke until he either off he game or react irationally and get red carded. Carrol is ah more mobile player than KJ and his attribute set is different buh I been watchin he and find he to be rell lazy jedd. Admiteddly is about 4-5 games I see buh he doh always look inspired at all.
Post by: ckhan on October 25, 2010, 01:26:12 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 25, 2010, 02:07:25 PM
F.Killa I hear yuh. I just hope for Kj sake that he continues to develop his game and be the force we all know him to be... :beermug:
I doh really see it happenin (hopefully ah wrong) in Stoke City. They not about improving players, it seems only about trying to exploit their strengths. To improve he would have to be at a club where they play a brand that requires sharper passing and steady movement. he would have to play for managers like Wenger, Mancini, Ancelotti, SAF, etc. When you look at how the big teams play you can see why a player would come out better than he went in. I juss hope I wrong doh because de yute have the tools.
Post by: Dutty on October 25, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
WDFIRHIT?!!
dais a new one boy :D....take mih ah few seconds to figure dat out
Post by: KND2 on October 25, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
The preception is that Tevez is working hard and KJ is lazy it has nothing to do with the actually speed he is running at.
It is a personality thing.
Perception is reality.
That is why he frustrates men like steve bruce. and produce nothing for TnT.
He losing the Public relations battle. When I watch the game with KJ, I dont leave with the feeling that he leaving it all on the field. True or false does not matter.
it is just my perception.
It is fine when you scoring goals no body will say anything, but as soon as you go on a drought men will start to grumble, fair or not doesnt matter that is the reality.
KJ will always get picked up by Premiership level teams but will never reach the heights of Droba or Yorke because the general perception of him is that he is not leaving it all on the field.
being a forward has gauaranteed him of that.
Goals is like Gold if you can get a few you getting contract no matter what
Post by: FF on October 25, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
WDFIRHIT?!!
dais a new one boy :D....take mih ah few seconds to figure dat out
i scratch meh head for a lil while mehself.... lol
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 25, 2010, 03:19:17 PM
Post by: Socafan on October 25, 2010, 05:13:01 PM
Boy, I really doh like nutten about KJ play. He doh pressure the ball enough, he doh run hard enough in support, he doh challenge the keeper enough in air balls, in open play he doh challenge people with headers, he doh make himself available in the right positions to receive the ball.\\
As a manager, dais ah challenging player to work with boy.
yuh is ah manager?
Nah.....it sound so?...LOL I juss figure any manager would be at wits end trying to motivate KJ.
With all ah dat....He goh still be more than ah handful fuh Mexico.
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2010, 05:25:42 PM
WDFIRHIT?!!
dais a new one boy :D....take mih ah few seconds to figure dat out
i scratch meh head for a lil while mehself.... lol
I stuck on de 'T'...
Post by: Socafan on October 25, 2010, 05:35:56 PM
WDFIRHIT?!!
dais a new one boy :D....take mih ah few seconds to figure dat out
i scratch meh head for a lil while mehself.... lol
I stuck on de 'T'...
I figure is "truth"..... :)..Or better yet, "trute"..
Post by: Coop's on October 25, 2010, 05:46:30 PM
Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).It seems some peeps have to get obscene to make statements or is just me they does feel to cuss,other peeps support my views and i eh hear nothing but as they i am a big man and i'll respect that,keep it up Mr Killa what ever your name is,enjoy yourself.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Post by: Bakes on October 25, 2010, 06:07:24 PM
It seems some peeps have to get obscene to make statements or is just me they does feel to cuss,other peeps support my views and i eh hear nothing but as they i am a big man and i'll respect that,keep it up Mr Killa what ever your name is,enjoy yourself.
Coop's doh dig no horrors man... I eh go speak fuh Scorp, but whey we come from man does get level cuss normal normal then fete wid each other like is nutten. Is juss ah different vibe here that most eh check for, but I sure Scorp/Killa heself go tell yuh he eh mean nutten by it :beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 26, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).It seems some peeps have to get obscene to make statements or is just me they does feel to cuss,other peeps support my views and i eh hear nothing but as they i am a big man and i'll respect that,keep it up Mr Killa what ever your name is,enjoy yourself.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Please doh tell meh yuh f**kin sensative :rotfl: Is nutten personal bredda doh dig nutten
Bakes, Socafan have it correck in "trute" lol
Post by: Coop's on October 26, 2010, 11:40:28 AM
This is not about being sensitive,guys like you don't know how to deal with people who have more experience than you all,i does think before i talk so don't tell me i'm talking shit,you could laugh all you want just remember i'm not a little boy.Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).It seems some peeps have to get obscene to make statements or is just me they does feel to cuss,other peeps support my views and i eh hear nothing but as they i am a big man and i'll respect that,keep it up Mr Killa what ever your name is,enjoy yourself.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Please doh tell meh yuh f**kin sensative :rotfl: Is nutten personal bredda doh dig nutten
Bakes, Socafan have it correck in "trute" lol
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 26, 2010, 12:37:35 PM
This is not about being sensitive,guys like you don't know how to deal with people who have more experience than you all,i does think before i talk so don't tell me i'm talking shit,you could laugh all you want just remember i'm not a little boy.Ckhan like yuh friggin mad ah wha?!! Wha Heskey does handle?!! He ever score more goals dan KJ in any season since KJ in de PL? I watch Carrol more dan once dis season look lazy an very uninspiring (not much different dan man like to describe KJ).It seems some peeps have to get obscene to make statements or is just me they does feel to cuss,other peeps support my views and i eh hear nothing but as they i am a big man and i'll respect that,keep it up Mr Killa what ever your name is,enjoy yourself.
Coops Tevez does get physically handled similar to KJ?!! Doh talk no f**kin shit nah, yuh is ah big man and an experienced player and daiz de name yuh go pick out? Tevez?!! Soon yuh go say Bent takin de same lix too ent?!! WDFIRHIT?!! Steups!!!
JC stop wastin yuh keystrokes jedd, de man is ah hong accordin to many on here. Maybe daiz why teams does set out to neutralize him specifically. While man talkin all dey shit dey eh realize ManUre of all teams are very familiar with his abilities considering he poison dem ah few times while he was with SAFC.
Please doh tell meh yuh f**kin sensative :rotfl: Is nutten personal bredda doh dig nutten
Bakes, Socafan have it correck in "trute" lol
Wham like yuh have ah complex aought? I eh here to conform to your brand of discussion nah. You actin like somebody say yuh is ah lil boy. Matter of fact yuh quote me saying "yuh is ah big man and an experienced player" right? I eh no lil boy needa so climb dong off de high horse pops. As fuh thinkin bout wha yuh sayin, maybe yuh need to sleep on it because yuh clearly didn't think enough to compare what Tevez gets to what KJ has to deal with. If yuh want to compare players dat does take de same kinda lix at times then people like Zamora, Crouch, Torres etc., fit the bill much better because those players also constantly have man literally ridin dey back. So if yuh eh like it sorry buh it eh really about to change
Post by: Bakes on October 26, 2010, 03:27:21 PM
Wham like yuh have ah complex aought? I eh here to conform to your brand of discussion nah. You actin like somebody say yuh is ah lil boy. Matter of fact yuh quote me saying "yuh is ah big man and an experienced player" right? I eh no lil boy needa so climb dong off de high horse pops. As fuh thinkin bout wha yuh sayin, maybe yuh need to sleep on it because yuh clearly didn't think enough to compare what Tevez gets to what KJ has to deal with. If yuh want to compare players dat does take de same kinda lix at times then people like Zamora, Crouch, Torres etc., fit the bill much better because those players also constantly have man literally ridin dey back. So if yuh eh like it sorry buh it eh really about to change
Tevez does get level kick dong... and since he does have de ball more than KJ (or involve heself in de play more) he getting more abuse than KJ.
Coop's doh be afraid to tell dis imps he talking out he cacahole.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on October 26, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
Wham like yuh have ah complex aought? I eh here to conform to your brand of discussion nah. You actin like somebody say yuh is ah lil boy. Matter of fact yuh quote me saying "yuh is ah big man and an experienced player" right? I eh no lil boy needa so climb dong off de high horse pops. As fuh thinkin bout wha yuh sayin, maybe yuh need to sleep on it because yuh clearly didn't think enough to compare what Tevez gets to what KJ has to deal with. If yuh want to compare players dat does take de same kinda lix at times then people like Zamora, Crouch, Torres etc., fit the bill much better because those players also constantly have man literally ridin dey back. So if yuh eh like it sorry buh it eh really about to change
Tevez does get level kick dong... and since he does have de ball more than KJ (or involve heself in de play more) he getting more abuse than KJ.
Coop's doh be afraid to tell dis imps he talking out he cacahole.
Ah go make yuh ah bet f**ka, bet KJ get push dong and have man entire body weight on him more during the next 5 games than Teves gets "kick dong" Allyuh feel is allyuh alone watchin football aought.
On ah side note ah like de unity wid you and coops, help him fix up da Jean Pierre he ha dey bout bein ah big man :devil:
Post by: Bakes on October 26, 2010, 04:06:51 PM
Ah go make yuh ah bet f**ka, bet KJ get push dong and have man entire body weight on him more during the next 5 games than Teves gets "kick dong" Allyuh feel is allyuh alone watchin football aought.
On ah side note ah like de unity wid you and coops, help him fix up da Jean Pierre he ha dey bout bein ah big man :devil:
Aiite, bet!
Coop's good fuh one crazy man comment every couple months, but dai'z mih pardna man, lol
Post by: andre samuel on November 14, 2010, 07:31:27 AM
Fuller, Jones lead Stoke past Liverpool
Liverpool's four-match unbeaten run came to an end at the Britannia Stadium as Ricardo Fuller and Kenwyne Jones struck to give Stoke their second victory of the week.
The Potters started brightly and had a couple of confident penalty appeals turned down, while Dean Whitehead forced Pepe Reina into a fine save down low to his right.
The Reds gained a foothold in the game as the first half progressed but Stoke always provided a threat from set-pieces and eventually made the breakthrough on 56 minutes after a Rory Delap throw-in caused chaos in the box.
Liverpool could not clear the ball during an almighty goalmouth scramble and Fuller took advantage to poke home through a crowded box and fire Stoke in front.
Maxi Rodriguez came close to scoring an equaliser when his close-range effort was kept out by Asmir Begovic but otherwise Roy Hodgson's men carried little threat.
The outcome was put beyond any doubt in stoppage time when Jones made it 2-0 to Stoke on the break, while Lucas Leiva was sent off late on for a second bookable offence.
Pressure
Liverpool's first 45 minutes appeared to be a direct continuation of the second half at Wigan, where they had found themselves under almost constant pressure and were lucky to come away with a draw.
Only the returning Sotirios Kyrgiakos had not played in the previous two matches so there may have been an element of fatigue, especially as Stoke played a day earlier on Tuesday.
But no team in the Premier League, let alone a club like Liverpool, can expect to use that as an excuse for an abject and disjointed first-half display.
Hodgson's side appeared unprepared and unable to deal with their hosts' brash, energetic approach which allowed them to dominate the game from first to last.
Stoke were appealing unsuccessfully for a penalty in only the second minute when Rodriguez leant heavily on Fuller as they challenged for Delap's long throw.
It was a sign of things to come as the visitors found themselves being forced back, looking worryingly susceptible to Delap's trademark set-piece.
Retort
Midfielder Whitehead benefited from weak headed clearances to fire in a low shot which Reina turned around a post and then drill a similar 30-yard effort just past the angle of upright and crossbar.
Jones and former Reds winger Jermaine Pennant also had chances before Steven Gerrard registered Liverpool's first shot in the 29th minute, forcing Begovic to tip the low effort behind, although the goalkeeper dealt more comfortably with Raul Meireles strike from the resulting corner.
It was a brief retort which was soon forgotten when Jones rounded Paul Konchesky to cross low into the six-yard box, forcing Jamie Carragher to dive in front of Matthew Etherington to prevent the opening goal.
Less than two minutes into the second half Fernando Torres, who had been anonymous previously, was booked for tackling Pennant from behind.
But the real threat was still coming from Delap and Liverpool's inability to cope with his party trick finally cost them in the 56th minute.
A scramble saw the ball break to Etherington at the far post and his cross-shot bounced back off Konchesky to Fuller, who had his first effort blocked but stabbed home the second from close range.
Despite the stereotype, it was Stoke's first goal from a Delap party-piece in 23 league matches.
Chances
Jones almost made it two when Martin Skrtel mistimed his jump but his left-footed effort beat both Reina and the far post.
Liverpool, as they did in the first half, had two chances in quick succession with Rodriguez shooting straight at Begovic from Dirk Kuyt's cut-back and Skrtel firing wide from Kyrgiakos' knockdown of Gerrard's free-kick.
David Ngog and Ryan Babel replaced Meireles and Rodriguez but with Liverpool still unable to gain decent possession of the ball it made little difference they effectively had four strikers on the pitch.
Their embarrassment was completed in the 90th minute when Gerrard gave the ball away and Jones was able to skip past Skrtel to fire home.
The dismissal of Lucas for a second bookable offence just compounded matters.
Post by: Ngozi on November 14, 2010, 08:01:14 AM
KJ does play that post up game so theoretically it easier to mark him cuz he want it here and go try to outmuscle yuh or outjump yuh. Naturally this could be effective if yuh bigger and stronger but it aint always effective plus if yuh right there my job is to make you as uncomfortable as you can be when attempting to get the ball and it easier for me to administer "kick" because I doh have to chase yuh 30 , 40 meters to get to you.
This game is about moving off the ball if yuh stand up yuh going to get more kick than if yuh moving .. I mean is it easier to hit a moving target or one that standing still?
Ok children class dismiss lol
Post by: Peong on November 27, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
I really hate how KJ just strolls around.
After he makes his run to the middle of the box, he just walks.
He never ready to pounce on the ball, he reacts after the ball is already heading his way.
If he would learn to be more proactive he would get more chances on goal.
Today I hope he gets 2 perfect crosses and buries them.
Like Tallman was limin late last night. Mods yuh need help with the Trinis in Action thread?
Post by: StoreBayLimer on November 28, 2010, 01:08:51 AM
I just catch the end of the first half of Stoke vs Man City.
I really hate how KJ just strolls around.
After he makes his run to the middle of the box, he just walks.
He never ready to pounce on the ball, he reacts after the ball is already heading his way.
If he would learn to be more proactive he would get more chances on goal.
Today I hope he gets 2 perfect crosses and buries them.
Like Tallman was limin late last night. Mods yuh need help with the Trinis in Action thread?
I am not disagreeing with you. However Jones is involved in not just most, but a significant fraction, of Stoke City’s goals and real efforts on goal.
Post by: Big Magician on November 28, 2010, 01:56:02 AM
allyuh not tired ???
Post by: Flex on January 04, 2011, 03:06:06 AM
Manchester United v Stoke City today live on FSC @ 3pm EST (4pm TT Time) today. Replay at 8pm EST.
Thread will be merged after game.
Post by: AirMan on January 04, 2011, 03:08:49 AM
Post by: Sando prince on January 04, 2011, 04:16:40 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Jones_ready_to_rumble-112841099.html
KJ ready to rumble..Leh we see what he will do ..hard to see Stoke winning this game
Post by: banton on January 04, 2011, 07:27:00 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 04, 2011, 07:33:55 AM
:beermug:
Fine..he could score 1 after we score 5.. happy?
Post by: Touches on January 04, 2011, 07:52:33 AM
;D
Post by: capodetutticapi on January 04, 2011, 10:34:11 AM
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2011, 10:41:38 AM
Post by: Mose on January 04, 2011, 11:50:22 AM
perfect game.......united win 6-3.jones hattrick.Nah, give Fuller one fuh de sake of Caribbean unity ;D
Post by: elan on January 04, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
Post by: Bakes on January 04, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
The ref in the game already. Player get pulled for stoke on top the 18 ref say play on and did not call it back. Evra get kick but play ball to Berbatov who fall on he face, ref call it back and give free-kick
How about the play on to Berbatov who had a chance to score but the ball was blocked for a corner... Klattenburg say "nah, daiz not enough" he wait 'til Berbatov chance was frustrated to call it back for a foul on Nani. Not saying it wasn't a foul, but kinda... baffling, how ManU always seem to get the benefit of the calls, especially at home.
Post by: Bitter on January 04, 2011, 02:49:42 PM
Post by: 100% Barataria on January 04, 2011, 02:51:12 PM
This game need some more action, it dry no tail
Wah yuh expec, is Manure sweatin, CL rd of 16 comin up
Post by: frico on January 04, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2011, 03:07:20 PM
Post by: Peong on January 04, 2011, 03:11:36 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2011, 03:19:38 PM
Post by: Flex on January 04, 2011, 03:22:32 PM
Post by: Peong on January 04, 2011, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: D.H.W on January 04, 2011, 03:50:58 PM
Post by: AirMan on January 04, 2011, 03:51:03 PM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 04, 2011, 03:53:27 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on January 04, 2011, 05:19:44 PM
Post by: triniairman on January 04, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
Love me some Nani! Rafael does run ball like a true Brazilian.Did you see the cap he give ah man on the wing? On another note the Man.U haters does sound like a broken record week after week after week. Allure eh tired hate?
Post by: giggsy11 on January 04, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
Love me some Nani! Rafael does run ball like a true Brazilian.Did you see the cap he give ah man on the wing? On another note the Man.U haters does sound like a broken record week after week after week. Allure eh tired hate?
Yep- that was nice-part of the build up before Nani's goal. I glad to see he keeping his Brazilian flair while continuing to learn the game. As far as the haters; next thing they will be saying is that even the ball bias in United's favor!
Post by: giggsy11 on January 04, 2011, 08:00:07 PM
Post by: Pointman on January 04, 2011, 08:14:03 PM
Glory, Glory!!!
Post by: Peong on January 04, 2011, 08:52:20 PM
When Jones was coming off the commentator say he was playing despite dealing with some personal issues. Anybody know what he was referring to?
Must be all the criticism from SW.net. Seriously though his coach Pulis mentioned his personal problems recently but didn't elaborate.
Post by: Bakes on January 04, 2011, 09:08:47 PM
Man up already.
Post by: elan on January 04, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
Post by: Sam on January 05, 2011, 06:32:42 AM
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on January 05, 2011, 11:16:07 AM
Having emerged victorious from a physical battle with one of the Premier League’s most robust target men, Chris Smalling was in chipper mood following United’s narrow win over Stoke City.
Hulking Potters striker Kenwyne Jones endured a miserable evening at the hands of Smalling and Nemanja Vidic, and was withdrawn midway through the second period at Old Trafford. Though he’ll undoubtedly have the bruises to show for his evening’s work, Smalling admits he relished the challenge.
“We looked at the footage beforehand and Stoke are a real handful physically, especially Kenwyne Jones,” the defender told MUTV. “He’s been tormenting centre halves this season. I knew it was going to be a really difficult battle but I really enjoyed it out there.
“He’s got a great standing jump so you really have to get about him and really tussle with him. I really enjoyed that side of the game. I’ve played a lot of Champions League games so now I’ve got into different competitions I feel like I’m playing my part. I’m really knocking on that door and hopefully the manager can see that I can play well.”
Having snuffed out the visitors’ chief threat so comprehensively, Smalling also paid tribute to his side’s own match-winners – Chicharito and Nani – who combined clinically for both United goals.
“He (Chicharito) is dangerous,” he said. “When we play little six v fives in training he can be a nightmare to mark. You need your wits about you because he can come from the left or the right. He really deserved his goal.
“Nani’s been a real loss. He’s so important in terms of our goal threat going forward and he’s a real threat down that wing. He scores so many goals with his left foot. Everyone thinks he’s right-footed, but it’s great for him to pop up and get another wonder goal.”
Post by: de_redman on January 14, 2011, 05:26:59 AM
Ba having Stoke medical
Potters close in on striker deal
Skysports.com understands Hoffenheim striker Demba Ba is undergoing a medical at Stoke ahead of his proposed move to the Britannia Stadium.
Stoke tabled a £5.9million bid for Ba on Thursday and the German club have now given the striker permission to hold talks with the Potters.
Ba's future has been the subject of intense speculation during this month's transfer window with the player refusing to return to Hoffenheim.
West Ham were thought to be leading the chase for the 25-year-old, but it appears Stoke have a stolen a march on their Premier League rivals for Ba by agreeing a fee with Hoffenheim with his services.
Stoke boss Tony Pulis is keen to bolster his attacking options and sees Ba as a key addition to his squad with the likes of Tuncay and Eidur Gudjohnsen linked with moves away from the club.
The Potters are hoping to tie up a deal in time to have Ba available for this weekend's clash with Bolton.
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Post by: fitzinho on January 14, 2011, 06:39:37 AM
Bruised but beamingYet man does jump up and bawl oh He is this and he is that...Aside from Dwight Yorke how many Trinis generate that level of attention in the EPL???
Having emerged victorious from a physical battle with one of the Premier League’s most robust target men, Chris Smalling was in chipper mood following United’s narrow win over Stoke City.
Hulking Potters striker Kenwyne Jones endured a miserable evening at the hands of Smalling and Nemanja Vidic, and was withdrawn midway through the second period at Old Trafford. Though he’ll undoubtedly have the bruises to show for his evening’s work, Smalling admits he relished the challenge.
“We looked at the footage beforehand and Stoke are a real handful physically, especially Kenwyne Jones,” the defender told MUTV. “He’s been tormenting centre halves this season. I knew it was going to be a really difficult battle but I really enjoyed it out there.
“He’s got a great standing jump so you really have to get about him and really tussle with him. I really enjoyed that side of the game. I’ve played a lot of Champions League games so now I’ve got into different competitions I feel like I’m playing my part. I’m really knocking on that door and hopefully the manager can see that I can play well.”
Having snuffed out the visitors’ chief threat so comprehensively, Smalling also paid tribute to his side’s own match-winners – Chicharito and Nani – who combined clinically for both United goals.
“He (Chicharito) is dangerous,” he said. “When we play little six v fives in training he can be a nightmare to mark. You need your wits about you because he can come from the left or the right. He really deserved his goal.
“Nani’s been a real loss. He’s so important in terms of our goal threat going forward and he’s a real threat down that wing. He scores so many goals with his left foot. Everyone thinks he’s right-footed, but it’s great for him to pop up and get another wonder goal.”
Post by: Peong on January 14, 2011, 03:02:43 PM
Doh mean shit if yuh not scorin goals.
Post by: Peong on January 15, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
Tuncay was being greedy and had a couple chances to bring Jones into the play in good positions but chose to go it alone.
Post by: fari on January 15, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Jones put down a few skillful moves today. He actually hit 2 men a Zidane roulette.
Tuncay was being greedy and had a couple chances to bring Jones into the play in good positions but chose to go it alone.
is an open secret that tuncay trying to leave stoke...he ent care bout the team he trying to make himself look good to potential suitors
Post by: Bitter on January 21, 2011, 09:48:22 AM
Posted on: Fri 21 Jan 2011
http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10310~2272528,00.html
STOKE CITY have today boosted their attacking options by securing the loan signing of Norwegian international John Carew from Aston Villa.
The 31-year-old striker has opted to join City until the end of the 2010-11 season after agreeing terms with the Club over a four-month loan.
Manager Tony Pulis moved quickly to acquire a player with Carew's experience and goalscoring pedigree once Darren Bent's transfer to Aston Villa earlier this week opened the door for him to seek a fresh opportunity elsewhere.
After holding talks with City over the move on Thursday, he finalised the move to the Britannia Stadium in time to train with his new colleagues today and goes straight into the squad for the Barclays Premier League match at Fulham.
"This is a fantastic signing," said Pulis. "John's record speaks for itself because he has scored goals at the highest level throughout his career.
"As well as all the experience he has gained at international level, he has top played for some top, top clubs across Europe and performed in the Champion League for many seasons, including an appearance in the final for Valencia.
"On top of that, he was Aston Villa's leading scorer last season with 17 goals, so we have acquired a striker with outstanding pedigree."
Born and raised in Norway, Carew began his career with local club Lorenskog but first shot to prominence when he joined Rosenborg where his performances in the European Champions League brought him to the attention of Valencia.
He joined the Spanish club in a £7 million transfer in the year 2000 and in his four years there he helped them to win La Liga twice and also appeared in the Champions League Final where they eventually lost on penalties to Bayern Munich.
Carew's goals were also responsible for knocking Arsenal out of the Champions League on two occasions in his time at Valencia before he eventually moved to Turkish club Besiktas in 2004 after a short loan spell with Italian club Roma.
After one season in Serie A, he joined French club Lyon for £6 million, but then an exchange deal with Milan Baros took him to Villa four years ago.
A consistent goalscorer with the West Midlands club, his 17 goals last season saw him finish as the club's joint top goalscorer with Gabriel Agbonlahor and he was also the top marksman in the FA Cup, bagging a hat-trick in the quarter final win over Reading.
The experienced striker has also won 85 caps for his country, scoring 23 goals, and he made his debut for Norway in November 1998.
*Carew will wear squad number 22.
Post by: maxg on January 21, 2011, 09:57:18 AM
Post by: soccerman on January 21, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
Pennant 'forgot his Porsche in Spain'
Jermain Pennant: Porsche? What Porsche?
If there was such a body as the Society for the Promotion of Footballers in a Positive Light (the name might need a little work), it would have disbanded this week after Stoke winger Jermaine Pennant left his expensive Porsche at a train station for five months because he forgot he owned one.
The former Liverpool winger, who moved to La Liga in 2009, did his bit to reinforce the stereotype that footballers have too much money and too few brain cells when he returned the Premier League and left his shiny new car behind in Zaragoza.
Spanish daily Marca reports that when the club phoned him to let him know, Pennant still had no recollection that the vehicle was his and officials had to prove it by telling him it bore his personal plate - P33NNT. Zaragoza were forced to open the car and were surprised to discover the keys were on the seat.
The player's agent naturally denied the oversight but a top source at Stoke City told The Sun: "The plate is now on his Ferrari, which is over here." ;D
Post by: Peong on January 26, 2011, 11:36:28 AM
Post by: davidephraim on March 22, 2011, 07:14:23 AM
Post by: Fyzoman on March 22, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
When he was subbed out, de crowd applaued as though he score ah hattrick...not sure if is because dey know what he going through, or because dey like the shift he put in..or a combo:)
Post by: Mose on March 22, 2011, 01:26:18 PM
Post by: Cocorite on March 22, 2011, 02:03:06 PM
Post by: davidephraim on March 22, 2011, 11:49:06 PM
ah only see the second half of dis game, but to me the crowd was applauding every effort KJ made (now dey mighta been doing dat with other players eh but I was focused on KJ).....he did miss a sitter (at dis level) with he left foot too
When he was subbed out, de crowd applaued as though he score ah hattrick...not sure if is because dey know what he going through, or because dey like the shift he put in..or a combo:)
Well truth be told they were applauding everyone but they had something special for KJ on that day. I suspect it is the combo of the fact that he has issues and still put in a strong shift. But also a good coach once said that if your offence is off then work on your defense . I think Stoke City coach may have echoed this sentiment to KJ because he played like a workhorse. Shoulda been foamin at the mouth in coming off. Kudos to De Jamaican goal on de 90th minute. Very nice effort.
Post by: Lightning on April 01, 2011, 08:08:58 AM
Cardiff boss Dave Jones under pressure, says Tony Pulis
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Stoke manager Tony Pulis says his friend Dave Jones is under pressure amid Cardiff City's bid for promotion to the Premier League.
The Bluebirds lie fourth in the Championship as they host Derby County on Saturday in the first of eight remaining games.
Pulis said: "I think Dave will know that he's under pressure this year.
"I think that everybody expects and he's got an array of talent there that really should be there or thereabouts."
Jones' side have won only once in their last five outings, but remain one place behind Welsh rivals Swansea with Norwich second and Queens Park Rangers leading the division.
Leeds United and Nottingham Forest complete the play-off places going into the weekend's games.
Speaking to BBC TWO Wales' Friday Sport Wales programme, Pulis said the fine line between success and failure can often be out of a manager's hand.
"You need a little bit of luck and a bit of good fortune as well and Dave will know that as much as anybody else," said Newport-born Pulis, who guided Stoke City to Premier League promotion in 2008.
"Being a manager that can be the difference between winning and losing and Dave will be hoping, as much as anybody else - [Swansea boss] Brendan [Rodgers] will as well - that lady luck falls their way in the back end of the season.
"If it does, the two of them could be playing in the Premiership next season."
Cardiff's last taste of success came in 2003 when Andy Campbell scored the only goal to win disappointing League One play-off final against Queens Park Rangers.
Jones says the biggest hurdle facing the current crop of players as they chase their goal is the lack of previous winning experiences to draw upon.
He said: "There are still a lot of twists and turns - there have been over the last few weeks - before the international break there was swapping and changing, some crazy results , some good results and some bad results and that's for everybody.
"It comes to this stage and the hardest part at this time is getting that first trophy or that first promotion.
"It's always been the difficult part. I've been fortunate enough in my time that I've had five as a coach and manager and sometimes people forget that.
"But it's difficult. The players try their best and work hard because when they don't get the result that everybody wants they're either poor players or they're not trying or something like that.
"That's not the case, they're just tick-box standard things that get thrown at people."
Watch the full Tony Pulis interview on Sport Wales, BBC TWO Wales, 2100 BST on Friday, 1 April.
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Tremendous game by Kenwyne... earned every pence of salary today, although the official stats won't reflect it. Halfway thru the first half I was still cussing his every move under mih breath... but then something clicked within him and he gave Terry and Luiz all they could handle. He was dominant in the air, held up possession well, in fact looked like he was toying with boys with the ball at his feet and his back to the goal. He had some very nice lay off passes to team mates, and had one or two decent efforts himself. I'm still no longer a fan, but proud of what I saw on the pitch today.
Yeah yuh know it is one of his "unplayable" days when he running at and beating defenders. It's a pity he did not get a goal for his efforts. Keep it up Kenwyne!
Post by: Bakes on April 02, 2011, 03:30:15 PM
Tremendous game by Kenwyne... earned every pence of salary today, although the official stats won't reflect it. Halfway thru the first half I was still cussing his every move under mih breath... but then something clicked within him and he gave Terry and Luiz all they could handle. He was dominant in the air, held up possession well, in fact looked like he was toying with boys with the ball at his feet and his back to the goal. He had some very nice lay off passes to team mates, and had one or two decent efforts himself. I'm still no longer a fan, but proud of what I saw on the pitch today.
Yeah yuh know it is one of his "unplayable" days when he running at and beating defenders. It's a pity he did not get a goal for his efforts. Keep it up Kenwyne!
He came close twice... once when he turn Terry inside out only to snatch the shot wide left as he was falling down. The second was on (relatively) free header which he tamely put wide. But de man look dangerous whole day. When they start off rating him I was like "steups... dem could f**king exaggerate boy... de man hardly touch the ball and is ah setta a 'impossible to handle' talk". As the game wore on so did the praises... and like ah say, even ah diehard critic like me had to sit back and marvel.
Post by: injunchile on April 02, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
The man played to his strength today and was a handful. If we can find a forward with speed then KJ can be the provider- Brazil here we come.
Post by: Socapro on April 02, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Hi Bakes- I agree with you and like you I saw KJ make some big men look like boys.
The man played to his strength today and was a handful. If we can find a forward with speed then KJ can be the provider- Brazil here we come.
All Fools Day is over friend! Lets get back serious nah?! ::)
Post by: davidephraim on April 02, 2011, 09:00:17 PM
any thoughts?
Post by: Midknight on April 02, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Tremendous game by Kenwyne... earned every pence of salary today, although the official stats won't reflect it. Halfway thru the first half I was still cussing his every move under mih breath... but then something clicked within him and he gave Terry and Luiz all they could handle. He was dominant in the air, held up possession well, in fact looked like he was toying with boys with the ball at his feet and his back to the goal. He had some very nice lay off passes to team mates, and had one or two decent efforts himself. I'm still no longer a fan, but proud of what I saw on the pitch today.
KJ is notorious for playing his socks off against the Chelsea's, ManUres, and Arsenal's. Is the other 32 games of the year does get people vex...Anyway here's wishing is the start of a good spell. Sounds like he needs it...
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Post by: StoreBayLimer on April 03, 2011, 10:28:10 PM
Kenwynne played well, definitely should be praised for his performance today.
Post by: davyjenny1 on April 03, 2011, 10:59:21 PM
remarkable display of will and grit by stoke. Great game overall. TnT have to play KJ to his strengths. Stoke city's coach seems to get the best out of him. 1-1 final score.
So if he play sh*t for the next two games or so wha yuh go say?
Post by: de_redman on April 04, 2011, 07:21:23 AM
How many goals does KJ have this season?5 in the league, 2 in the league cup ... hopefully he can still make double digits for the season.
Post by: davidephraim on April 04, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
remarkable display of will and grit by stoke. Great game overall. TnT have to play KJ to his strengths. Stoke city's coach seems to get the best out of him. 1-1 final score.
So if he play sh*t for the next two games or so wha yuh go say?
well actually i've seen his last 2 games which by the way were not against chelsea, manu or Arsenal and the will and grit have been present then as well. Maybe its a new dimension to KJ. He aint scorin shit but de crowd applaudes his every touch because de boy playing hard -er than usual. If he continues to play this way im not sure they will care if he scoring goals. (forgive my starry-eyedness) strikers must score goals. I can't wait for the next Stoke game. It's becoming a pleasure watching the fella.
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Bolton Wanderers v Stoke City
Wembley Stadium
Kick-off: 16.00 BST.
TV: ESPN
Bolton manager Owen Coyle will make one enforced change for the FA Cup semi-final against Stoke on Sunday at Wembley as on-loan striker Daniel Sturridge is ineligible.
Rodrigo and Ivan Klasnic are among the contenders to replace Sturridge, who scored a brace in the victory against West Ham last weekend.
Midfielder Mark Davies is expected to be included in the squad after returning to training following an ankle problem.
Stuart Holden, Sean Davis and Sam Ricketts remain sidelined through injury.
Denmark goalkeeper Thomas Sorensen will be recalled for Stoke.
Manager Tony Pulis has opted to stick with Sorensen instead of Asmir Begovic as he has been a regular in previous rounds.
Striker John Carew could come into contention following a four-match absence with a back problem.
Stoke, who go into the clash on the back of a 3-2 defeat by Tottenham in the Premier League, will be captained by central defender Ryan Shawcross.
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15:08: Would you like to know today's starting line-ups? Of course you would. Here you are:
Primed: Owen Coyle has the chance to take his Bolton Wanderers side to the FA Cup final
Bolton: Jaaskelainen, Steinsson, Cahill, Knight, Robinson, Lee, Elmander, Muamba, Petrov, Davies, Klasnic
Stoke: Sorensen, Wilkinson, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, Pennant, Delap, Whelan, Etherington, Jones, Walters
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Good goal and a good Stoke performance.
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Post by: soccerman on April 17, 2011, 09:36:59 PM
Some boss goals were scored. Go Stoke!!!
Post by: davidephraim on April 17, 2011, 10:46:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/iQaOfSI-a5U
Give Thanks dey Ras but I like to take it in in real time though it wont be live this time. But yuh was quick on de draw as always.
Post by: Tallman on April 19, 2011, 04:57:18 PM
By Peter Smith (The Sentinel)
BOLTON fan Ian Wagstaff insists he has no regrets after giving up a £38,500-a-year job in Australia to travel across the world for his side’s doomed FA Cup semi-final against Stoke.
The sheet metal worker handed in his resignation after being told he could not take time off from work in Brisbane to make it back for the Wembley showdown on Sunday.
The 50-year-old served four weeks’ notice and spent more than £1,000 to take his seat at the big match... only to see the Potters romp home to a 5-0 victory.
But Wagstaff, who has lived Down Under for 23 years, said: “I’m devastated, but I wouldn’t change anything – apart from the result.
“It was great to see the smaller clubs like Bolton and Stoke take pride of place on such a big occasion, even if we did have to see our team get played off the park.
“The atmosphere was electric and the Stoke fans were superb, I really hope they can go on and finish the job to lift the cup against Manchester City. Good luck to them.”
Wagstaff last went to watch Bolton in 1994 at Burnden Park and he had never even been to the Reebok Stadium, which opened in 1997 when he decided to make the 10,500-mile trip.
The father-of-three was determined to witness The Trotters reach their first FA Cup final since 1958, when they beat Manchester United 2-0 thanks to goals from Nat Lofthouse.
He is now planning to take in his first top-flight match before returning to his home and family in Australia in two months’ time to begin the hunt for a new job.
“I’ve been a Bolton fan all my life and watched them in every division apart from the Premier League,” said Wagstaff, who follows his club via the internet.
“When we reach the semi, I told my boss I wanted to go, but he said we were too busy. I told him I was going anyway.
“I just saw it as pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and I could not miss it. I have no regrets at all.
“Still, I hope and dream that I don’t have to wait another 53 years to see Wanderers in an FA Cup final, I don’t think I will be around to see them then.”
Post by: Socapro on April 19, 2011, 06:50:01 PM
Bolton fan has no regrets after leaving job in Oz to watch 5-0 defeat
By Peter Smith (The Sentinel)
BOLTON fan Ian Wagstaff insists he has no regrets after giving up a £38,500-a-year job in Australia to travel across the world for his side’s doomed FA Cup semi-final against Stoke.
The sheet metal worker handed in his resignation after being told he could not take time off from work in Brisbane to make it back for the Wembley showdown on Sunday.
The 50-year-old served four weeks’ notice and spent more than £1,000 to take his seat at the big match... only to see the Potters romp home to a 5-0 victory.
But Wagstaff, who has lived Down Under for 23 years, said: “I’m devastated, but I wouldn’t change anything – apart from the result.
“It was great to see the smaller clubs like Bolton and Stoke take pride of place on such a big occasion, even if we did have to see our team get played off the park.
“The atmosphere was electric and the Stoke fans were superb, I really hope they can go on and finish the job to lift the cup against Manchester City. Good luck to them.”
Wagstaff last went to watch Bolton in 1994 at Burnden Park and he had never even been to the Reebok Stadium, which opened in 1997 when he decided to make the 10,500-mile trip.
The father-of-three was determined to witness The Trotters reach their first FA Cup final since 1958, when they beat Manchester United 2-0 thanks to goals from Nat Lofthouse.
He is now planning to take in his first top-flight match before returning to his home and family in Australia in two months’ time to begin the hunt for a new job.
“I’ve been a Bolton fan all my life and watched them in every division apart from the Premier League,” said Wagstaff, who follows his club via the internet.
“When we reach the semi, I told my boss I wanted to go, but he said we were too busy. I told him I was going anyway.
“I just saw it as pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and I could not miss it. I have no regrets at all.
“Still, I hope and dream that I don’t have to wait another 53 years to see Wanderers in an FA Cup final, I don’t think I will be around to see them then.”
Big-up to him, a true fan and supporter!
I know a lot of people who was prepared to do similar to see T&T in the 2006 World Cup in Germany as they not sure to see lightening striking the same place twice in their lifetime with that lot in the TTFF in charge of our football!
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Post by: Brej on April 23, 2011, 06:32:25 PM
we always knew is his consistency needs work...
lets hope he can hold this run till the end of season and bring home the FA cup
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Post by: soccerman on April 25, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Great goal. On the up swing. Jones to Barca or Real 2012Whey boy like yuh drinking tonite :beermug:
Yes good goal, I watched the first half. He played solid, still needs a little polishing up receiving the ball out of the air as the target man but that's not easy when defenders breathing down yuh back. His contributions were worth it as he played with effort, keep it up KJ!!!
Post by: g on April 26, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
Goal! Stoke City 1, Wolverhampton Wanderers 0. Kenwyne Jones (Stoke City) header from the centre of the box to the centre of the goal. Assisted by Jermaine Pennant with a cross.
Four on the trot!
Post by: chelsealife on April 26, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
Post by: de_redman on April 26, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
Man on fire
Goal! Stoke City 1, Wolverhampton Wanderers 0. Kenwyne Jones (Stoke City) header from the centre of the box to the centre of the goal. Assisted by Jermaine Pennant with a cross.
Four on the trot!
Wham?! Jones cah score more than one goal in a match? :devil:
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Post by: 100% Barataria on April 26, 2011, 07:13:39 PM
He's a shit snake! ;D
Done know, not EPL material at all, a total of only what 11 goals for de season, all yuh geh serious nah man :devil:
Post by: D.H.W on April 26, 2011, 07:28:09 PM
Post by: Bakes on April 26, 2011, 07:41:26 PM
When he start scoring for T&T call me :sleepy:
...or giving a shit about Socawarrior fans for that matter.
Post by: maxg on April 26, 2011, 08:23:40 PM
Ah think Stoke just up they chances of ah tie, maybe even ah win with this three;)
Gudjohnsen, Pennant(ah like he), Wilson..if KJ get on the field, Pennant & Gud go find him, and even if he not in the mood, dem could score too
Post by: Preacher on April 26, 2011, 11:39:21 PM
Dis boy in fire :flamethrower:...Preacher I might have to take back meh words, it might be Barca or Real in trute ;D
I tell yuh .... A goal a game he could play anywhere. ;D
Post by: saint27 on April 27, 2011, 07:31:30 AM
Big Up KJ keep playing d football
Post by: davidephraim on May 08, 2011, 08:07:04 AM
Go stoke city.
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Post by: dinho on May 08, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
Ah didnt realize before and maybe is because I did miss de bacaanal Bakes talking bout whey KJ dis somebody but trust meh KJ dont get no love and as a result.. Stoke City doh get no love. Imagine Stoke Pong up a big club like asernal in dey head yesterday and de thread cya even see a lil congratulatory effort from us? Are we so upset with KJ dat most times is only a few members can take de time to say well done? And let de man come and doh play wid heart for TNT yuh go see how much KJ attention go be moving around. Everybody have who dey does support but Sunderland thread does get more love and we dont have no native sons their anymore. Well i am a waggonist who supports all RWB players. Even Stern John. So I say Long live King John and I sincerely hope that I will be saying the same about KJ in time to come.
Correct is right fellah...
The fact is on this site, the most amount of posts and discussion about KJ is to hop on the man back when he going throug a rough patch. Thats when you see everybody on this forum front and center to chime in with all dey shitong comments or how he is a waste etc. It is no surprise to me that now the man start ripping up every single KJ thread gone quiet.
The way I see it is this. The man eat up some of his credit with TnT fans with some lacklustre performances for the national team and the statements he made to fans after the US loss didn't help.. Personally, i didnt put too much stock into all that because i could relate.. People deal with disappointment differently, some people could be all nice and kosher after a loss and rap wid yuh, others doh wanna hear nobody and engage in no setta long talk and will let you know that... Furthermore as far as I concerned the man within his right to say he doh care about the posters on this forum... This site has directed alot of negativity in his direction be honest wid allyuh self.
Do I think he couldve handle certain things better? Yes.. Do I think its all his fault? No... The national team is not setup to work to his strengths and in terms of his form, we are seeing that the man had plenty going on. How many of us could function 100% at work having to go through what the man went through?
For me, regardless of what, in this barren period for Trini football KJ is the only man flying the Trini flag high. Who allyuh think Mancini and Man City fraid the most for the FA Cup final right now? The man on the verge of doing it big.
I could only be happy for the man. Do yuh thing KJ!
Post by: Bakes on May 08, 2011, 08:45:33 PM
Ah didnt realize before and maybe is because I did miss de bacaanal Bakes talking bout whey KJ dis somebody but trust meh KJ dont get no love and as a result.. Stoke City doh get no love. Imagine Stoke Pong up a big club like asernal in dey head yesterday and de thread cya even see a lil congratulatory effort from us? Are we so upset with KJ dat most times is only a few members can take de time to say well done? And let de man come and doh play wid heart for TNT yuh go see how much KJ attention go be moving around. Everybody have who dey does support but Sunderland thread does get more love and we dont have no native sons their anymore. Well i am a waggonist who supports all RWB players. Even Stern John. So I say Long live King John and I sincerely hope that I will be saying the same about KJ in time to come.
Yeah, maybe is because yuh miss it. If you look at all my posts on KJ before the last six months (despite all the shit yuh post in the next thread about me "carrying axe") you would see that I was harsh but mostly supportive of KJ, fuh the very same reason you say... he Trini. Then I came to understand why some members either dislike or indifferent to de man... and is not because something recent, but something that he himself said to about SW.net and the fans here, 3 yrs ago in Nashville, after the debacle against the US. So yeah, some of it might be people crying down KJ, but some of it is him poisoning he own waters. Let him haul he ass.
Post by: davidephraim on May 08, 2011, 09:34:53 PM
Ah didnt realize before and maybe is because I did miss de bacaanal Bakes talking bout whey KJ dis somebody but trust meh KJ dont get no love and as a result.. Stoke City doh get no love. Imagine Stoke Pong up a big club like asernal in dey head yesterday and de thread cya even see a lil congratulatory effort from us? Are we so upset with KJ dat most times is only a few members can take de time to say well done? And let de man come and doh play wid heart for TNT yuh go see how much KJ attention go be moving around. Everybody have who dey does support but Sunderland thread does get more love and we dont have no native sons their anymore. Well i am a waggonist who supports all RWB players. Even Stern John. So I say Long live King John and I sincerely hope that I will be saying the same about KJ in time to come.
Yeah, maybe is because yuh miss it. If you look at all my posts on KJ before the last six months (despite all the shit yuh post in the next thread about me "carrying axe") you would see that I was harsh but mostly supportive of KJ, fuh the very same reason you say... he Trini. Then I came to understand why some members either dislike or indifferent to de man... and is not because something recent, but something that he himself said to about SW.net and the fans here, 3 yrs ago in Nashville, after the debacle against the US. So yeah, some of it might be people crying down KJ, but some of it is him poisoning he own waters. Let him haul he ass.
well ah feel like dat is progress. Maybe he needs to apologize. Hopefully we are also willing to apologize because I am sure we talk some unwarranted shit bout de fella as well. We is Trinis. We does take pong and pong back. So leh we doh act like is only KJ who woulda talk some shit and all we guilty of saying is "KJ, why'd you have to be so mean" (spoken in a mike tyson voice) hehehehe! If we dont want to apologize then leh we dont expect none either.
Post by: davyjenny1 on May 09, 2011, 01:21:52 AM
Stoke stump blank-firing Gunners
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Stoke once again exposed Arsenal's soft underbelly with a deserved 3-1 victory which finally extinguished the dying embers of the Gunners` outside chance of making a late run for the Premier League title.
First-half goals from Kenwyne Jones and Jermaine Pennant were conceded far too easily and further defensive weaknesses were exposed after the break as the Londoners got themselves back into the game late on only to throw away their good work seconds later.
Robin van Persie hit his 19th in his last 21 matches, the eighth time in succession he had scored away from home, with less than ten minutes remaining only for Jon Walters to go straight down the other end and make it 3-1. It was a defeat which put the top of the table beyond reach for Arsene Wenger's side, although in truth they had blown their chances of ended a six-year wait for a trophy several weeks ago.
Much of the pre-match focus had been on the return of midfielder Aaron Ramsey to the ground where he horrifically broke his leg in two places last season and a first meeting with Ryan Shawcross, the player whose tackle inflicted the injury.
Best of enemies
As a result, despite Stoke's short time in the Premier League, these two sides have managed to build up plenty of history, with Wenger heavily critical of what he perceives as Stoke's over-physical style. But the more relevant history related to Stoke's threat from set-pieces and Arsenal's tendency to concede soft goals.
Both were prevalent at the Britannia Stadium and contributed significantly to the result. Their problems were mainly all of their own making, typified by the opening goal which was scored with far too much ease. Goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny had already flapped at one cross which Pennant hooked wide when he was left totally exposed by his defence in the 28th minute.
Andrey Arshavin's needless push on Pennant close to the corner flag allowed the winger to clip over a free-kick and Jones, having evaded Johan Djourou far too easily, simply jogged in and let the ball hit him on the chest to divert it over the line. The lack of effort required by the Trinidad and Tobago international to score against the league's third-placed side was embarrassing and Jones, presumably surprised by such a gift, did not even celebrate.
Arsenal should have been ahead well before that point though as the usually prolific van Persie blazed over from ten yards when put through by Ramsey's through-ball. Stoke fans' chant of "1-0 to the rugby team" was aimed at Wenger but the only direct thing about Stoke's second was the run of Pennant.
Not Arsenal's day
Cutting in from the left he was allowed to advance unchallenged and when Djourou belatedly came to meet him the winger fired in a shot which deflected off the defender and over Szczesny. Arsenal were spared further embarrassment by the crossbar just before the break when Walters shot from a narrow angle on the left of the penalty area.
Strikers Nicklas Bendtner and Marouane Chamakh replaced Ramsey and Arshavin for the second half but it was the other end of the pitch where the Gunners were lacking as within seconds of the restart Robert Huth headed over Pennant's corner.
In the ensuing melee Alex Song appeared to catch the defender in the face with an elbow which went unnoticed by referee Mark Halsey. There was greater concern for Huth when he suffered an injury scare six days before the FA Cup final, limping off with a knee problem.
For all the complaints about host's approach to the game, Bendtner was the first player to be booked when he upended Pennant close to the touchline, although the Stoke winger soon followed into the book for his retaliation to Jack Wilshere's studs-up challenge which also earned him a caution.
As the match entered its closing stages chances came at both ends; Begovic launching himself at Van Persie's feet to block an almost-certain goal and Glenn Whelan forcing Szczesny to tip his shot around the post from a counter-attack.
But with nine minutes remaining Begovic's slip up in allowing van Persie's shot to roll underneath him gave Arsenal a glimmer of hope. However, true to form, a minute later Djourou's miserable afternoon was complete when his half-clearance fell to Walters who poked home.
Stoke still have a cup final to look forward to, for Arsenal there is only next season.
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Post by: Tallman on May 11, 2011, 05:15:52 AM
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STOKE CITY have been given another major boost in the countdown to Saturday's historic first-ever appearance in an FA Cup Final at Wembley Stadium . . . with confirmation that they will be playing in Europe next season.
It was City's opponents in that Final, Manchester City, who helped to book their place in the Europa League when they clinched their Champions League spot with a victory over Tottenham Hotspur at the City of Manchester Stadium.
Therefore, the Potters go into the Europa League, irrespective of the outcome of Saturday's match against Roberto Mancini's side.
It will be the first time for 37 years that City have graced a European stage and only the third time in the Club's 148-year history.
They qualified for the UEFA Cup on two occasions during Tony Waddington's era as manager in the early seventies, playing the German side Kaiserslautern in the 1972-73 season and then the Dutch giants Ajax two years later.
Manager Tony Pulis was there to see Manchester City claim the victory that made it a night of double celebration for the two FA Cup Finalists.
Ironically enough, it was a Peter Crouch own goal which settled the issue, after the England international's winner for Spurs 12 months earlier had seen Harry Redknapp's side pip City for a Champions League spot in that instance.
City have already received notification that they will either enter the Europa League at the play-off stage in mid-August if they win the FA Cup on Saturday, but would go in at the qualifying stage earlier than that if they are runners-up.
*When City faced Kaiserslautern in September 1972 as League Cup winners, they won the first leg at the Victoria Ground 3-1 with goals from Terry Conroy, Geoff Hurst and John Ritchie, but the Germans overturned that deficit in the second leg.
Then in 1974, after qualifying through their League position, they went out on the away goals rule to Ajax who drew 1-1 at the Victoria Ground when Denis Smith's equaliser cancelled out a Ruud Krol thunderbolt in front of 37,398. The second leg in Holland ended in a goalless draw despite City gave the better goalscoring opportunities.
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Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 17, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
fack f**k ferk fick f**k fork fark funt you Stoke
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 17, 2011, 02:28:21 PM
No reason to cuss Stoke. We lost to teams we have no right to. Besides, the whole world hates Arsenal. F*ck em all. With a chainsaw.fack f**k ferk fick f**k fork fark funt you Stoke
to stoke fans i not cussing you just the club
Post by: Bourbon on May 17, 2011, 04:10:35 PM
No reason to cuss Stoke. We lost to teams we have no right to. Cuss Arsenal players for not being consistent enough. Besides, the whole world hates Arsenal, we expect no favours and when it's our turn in the sun, we shall give none. F*ck them all. With a chainsaw. In the a$$.fack f**k ferk fick f**k fork fark funt you Stoke
Whole world hates arsenal? AHAHAHAHA!! You's not the same man who post a article here (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33435.msg732381#msg732381) saying how Manchester Utd. was voted the most hated team in england?
Come nah man. I fed up of allyuh arsenal fans acting like de world against allyuh. I does feel sorry for allyuh at times...sometimes it does be hard luck..buh it have plenty tings dat arsenal themselves could only take the blame for.
Namely:
Tactics and players. Long time now it known they need steel in the middle. Long time now it known they getting caught easily on the counter. Long time now dey choking. Why not try to fix dat instead of wondering what coulda been? I see a man on a next forum post up a table showing how it woulda be if all de shots against the woodwork would have counted as goals..and arsenal on top. Why allyuh always complaining of what could have been instead of some serious introspection about what should be done to change it?
Next ting..why allyuh medical staff doh try to figure out how so much players get injured SO easily? Dey doh eat enough dasheen? Dey getting pushed too hard in training? Dey need rest? What?
It have more that could be said....but come on.....allyuh had allyuh destiny in allyuh hands FAR too many times to be trying to claim that it have some againstment that have allyuh in the position allyuh in.
Post by: GunnerStunner on May 17, 2011, 05:45:47 PM
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on May 17, 2011, 10:28:16 PM
No reason to cuss Stoke. We lost to teams we have no right to. Cuss Arsenal players for not being consistent enough. Besides, the whole world hates Arsenal, we expect no favours and when it's our turn in the sun, we shall give none. F*ck them all. With a chainsaw. In the a$$.fack f**k ferk fick f**k fork fark funt you Stoke
Whole world hates arsenal? AHAHAHAHA!! You's not the same man who post a article here (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=33435.msg732381#msg732381) saying how Manchester Utd. was voted the most hated team in england?
Come nah man. I fed up of allyuh arsenal fans acting like de world against allyuh. I does feel sorry for allyuh at times...sometimes it does be hard luck..buh it have plenty tings dat arsenal themselves could only take the blame for.
Namely:
Tactics and players. Long time now it known they need steel in the middle. Long time now it known they getting caught easily on the counter. Long time now dey choking. Why not try to fix dat instead of wondering what coulda been? I see a man on a next forum post up a table showing how it woulda be if all de shots against the woodwork would have counted as goals..and arsenal on top. Why allyuh always complaining of what could have been instead of some serious introspection about what should be done to change it?
Next ting..why allyuh medical staff doh try to figure out how so much players get injured SO easily? Dey doh eat enough dasheen? Dey getting pushed too hard in training? Dey need rest? What?
It have more that could be said....but come on.....allyuh had allyuh destiny in allyuh hands FAR too many times to be trying to claim that it have some againstment that have allyuh in the position allyuh in.
Post by: Peong on May 17, 2011, 11:23:24 PM
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Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 11, 2011, 12:18:29 PM
cole better than jones? keep dreamin
Giggsy on drugs hoss. Cole does do level tootz on de field buh he somehow better than KJ?
Post by: giggsy11 on July 11, 2011, 01:56:31 PM
cole better than jones? keep dreamin
Giggsy on drugs hoss. Cole does do level tootz on de field buh he somehow better than KJ?
As much tootz as you say Cole does on the field he has scored 32 goals in only 83 matches over the past 3 seasons whereas Jones has scored 33 in 94 games over the same period. Jones thro way as much if not more than Cole. Cole in my opinion is a technically better player than Jones as well as link up player. It is nothing personal but just base on what I see when I have watched them play!
But of course you would disagree because you are Jones' personal jock sniffer and groupie!
It never ceases to amaze me how people come on this site and act like somebody personally attacking them because an opinion is given that is opposite of theirs. Or because Jones is Trini, nothing negative can be said about him or that means you against him. Grow the f*ck up and get yuh head out from up his arse and when you are done doing that, wipe the shite and spit from your eyes so you may be able to look at things objectively without taking things personally!
Post by: D.H.W on July 11, 2011, 04:17:22 PM
Post by: just cool on July 12, 2011, 03:44:40 AM
:timeout: You talkin real outa timin dey horse. as ah matter of fact carlton cole iz de throw away king. as long as i've been watchin the EPL no one blunders goals as much as CC.cole better than jones? keep dreamin
Giggsy on drugs hoss. Cole does do level tootz on de field buh he somehow better than KJ?
As much tootz as you say Cole does on the field he has scored 32 goals in only 83 matches over the past 3 seasons whereas Jones has scored 33 in 94 games over the same period. Jones thro way as much if not more than Cole. Cole in my opinion is a technically better player than Jones as well as link up player. It is nothing personal but just base on what I see when I have watched them play!
But of course you would disagree because you are Jones' personal jock sniffer and groupie!
It never ceases to amaze me how people come on this site and act like somebody personally attacking them because an opinion is given that is opposite of theirs. Or because Jones is Trini, nothing negative can be said about him or that means you against him. Grow the f*ck up and get yuh head out from up his arse and when you are done doing that, wipe the shite and spit from your eyes so you may be able to look at things objectively without taking things personally!
remember KJ played for a team who was facing relegation in it's first three season fresh from the championship with no credibility. and even though westham has been relegation fudder for the past three yrs , they were a much better team than sunlun with much better players, it's their coach who was lacking.
as ah matter of fact KJ iz playing with ah real piss poor team just like our national team and iz doing quite well. carton cole iz ah striker and that's it, he has no defensive responsibilities, but KJ? the boy has tuh play striker, play maker and set piece defender all @ once! and if yuh don't believe me just go back on the SMB and see how much they missed KJ for his defensive ability on set pieces last season.
remember , goal tally don't make you a commodity as ah top striker in top flight world football. just look how hesky used tuh get considered over top english strikers with better goal averages, that's BC he was an all round player even though he lacked goal tallies.
put jones on ah big team like chelsea or arsenal and see how he will Tally goals like there's no tomorrow.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 12, 2011, 10:54:44 AM
cole better than jones? keep dreamin
Giggsy on drugs hoss. Cole does do level tootz on de field buh he somehow better than KJ?
As much tootz as you say Cole does on the field he has scored 32 goals in only 83 matches over the past 3 seasons whereas Jones has scored 33 in 94 games over the same period. Jones thro way as much if not more than Cole. Cole in my opinion is a technically better player than Jones as well as link up player. It is nothing personal but just base on what I see when I have watched them play!
But of course you would disagree because you are Jones' personal jock sniffer and groupie!
It never ceases to amaze me how people come on this site and act like somebody personally attacking them because an opinion is given that is opposite of theirs. Or because Jones is Trini, nothing negative can be said about him or that means you against him. Grow the f*ck up and get yuh head out from up his arse and when you are done doing that, wipe the shite and spit from your eyes so you may be able to look at things objectively without taking things personally!
You is ah kinda conthole aought? Wha kinda f**kin asshole talk is dat? Wha because I doh leh allyuh denegrate de man widout checkin allyuh?!! You just prove yuh iz ah f**kin imps oui. Coles stats are only marginally better as goals/ game ratio goes and despite your infantile asshole talk he is not better than KJ. If you said they were about the same I probably would have skipped your comment entirely. What yuh want to bet Cole sees less of the field than KJ while playing for stoke? Jones throw away more than Cole? Now I know fuh sure you just talkin shit fuh talkin it sake :rotfl:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 12, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
:timeout: You talkin real outa timin dey horse. as ah matter of fact carlton cole iz de throw away king. as long as i've been watchin the EPL no one blunders goals as much as CC.cole better than jones? keep dreamin
Giggsy on drugs hoss. Cole does do level tootz on de field buh he somehow better than KJ?
As much tootz as you say Cole does on the field he has scored 32 goals in only 83 matches over the past 3 seasons whereas Jones has scored 33 in 94 games over the same period. Jones thro way as much if not more than Cole. Cole in my opinion is a technically better player than Jones as well as link up player. It is nothing personal but just base on what I see when I have watched them play!
But of course you would disagree because you are Jones' personal jock sniffer and groupie!
It never ceases to amaze me how people come on this site and act like somebody personally attacking them because an opinion is given that is opposite of theirs. Or because Jones is Trini, nothing negative can be said about him or that means you against him. Grow the f*ck up and get yuh head out from up his arse and when you are done doing that, wipe the shite and spit from your eyes so you may be able to look at things objectively without taking things personally!
remember KJ played for a team who was facing relegation in it's first three season fresh from the championship with no credibility. and even though westham has been relegation fudder for the past three yrs , they were a much better team than sunlun with much better players, it's their coach who was lacking.
as ah matter of fact KJ iz playing with ah real piss poor team just like our national team and iz doing quite well. carton cole iz ah striker and that's it, he has no defensive responsibilities, but KJ? the boy has tuh play striker, play maker and set piece defender all @ once! and if yuh don't believe me just go back on the SMB and see how much they missed KJ for his defensive ability on set pieces last season.
remember , goal tally don't make you a commodity as ah top striker in top flight world football. just look how hesky used tuh get considered over top english strikers with better goal averages, that's BC he was an all round player even though he lacked goal tallies.
put jones on ah big team like chelsea or arsenal and see how he will Tally goals like there's no tomorrow.
Ah suspect you'll eventually be labelled as he jock sniffer too :rotfl:
Post by: Peong on July 12, 2011, 11:32:39 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 12, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
I've seen many fluffed chances by Cole. He kinda clumsy sometimes.
Nah he technically superior to KJ doh say dat! I just don't understand given his goal scoring ability and his size why he cant even make the squad much less had any chance to supplant Emile Heskey.
Post by: kicker on July 12, 2011, 12:28:37 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on July 12, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
Post by: Peong on July 12, 2011, 08:07:07 PM
Carlton Cole score a real boss goal once. Ah see it on Youtube. Ah think Giggsy see it too.:rotfl:
Post by: andre samuel on July 20, 2011, 03:35:37 PM
Kenwyne Jones added a brace while Jermaine Pennant, Glenn Whelan and Jonathan Walters got the others.
www.skysports.com
Post by: Bourbon on July 20, 2011, 08:58:23 PM
Post by: de_redman on July 21, 2011, 06:41:13 AM
Carlton Cole's proposed move to the Britannia Stadium from West Ham fell through last week, while talks with Birmingham frontman Cameron Jerome are thought to have stalled.
However, the Potters are still on the hunt for someone to lead their frontline, with out-of-favour Tottenham striker Peter Crouch among the names to have been linked with the club.
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 21, 2011, 10:21:58 AM
Stoke chairman Peter Coates expects the club to capture a new striker before the transfer window closes.
Carlton Cole's proposed move to the Britannia Stadium from West Ham fell through last week, while talks with Birmingham frontman Cameron Jerome are thought to have stalled.
However, the Potters are still on the hunt for someone to lead their frontline, with out-of-favour Tottenham striker Peter Crouch among the names to have been linked with the club.
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Yukkkkk!!!
Post by: giggsy11 on August 21, 2011, 09:04:06 AM
Post by: de_redman on August 25, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
Post by: Boodsy on August 25, 2011, 02:15:31 PM
Stoke 4 - Thun 0
Post by: eyezahspy on August 25, 2011, 02:15:54 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 25, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
Post by: ckhan on August 27, 2011, 07:22:44 PM
Discussions over move for Spurs midfielder 'at advanced stage'
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11701_7131631,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11701_7131631,00.html)
Post by: Cocorite on August 31, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
At least Jones doh have tuh worry bout getting his dreads pulled when going for goal :-\
The competition good for Jones
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 31, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
According to SKY---Crouch have agreed terms with Stoke
At least Jones doh have tuh worry bout getting his dreads pulled when going for goal :-\
The competition good for Jones
Crouch is not competition hoss. If anything look for Pulis to Bring Crouch off the bench and at times pair with KJ to take advantage of all the crosses from pennant and etherington as well as Delap throws.
Post by: Mose on August 31, 2011, 12:10:02 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 31, 2011, 12:16:09 PM
Why people persist in doing dat with Crouch is beyond me because despite the goal he score against we, he not good in de air.
Daz dat English stubbornness
Post by: Mose on August 31, 2011, 12:59:23 PM
Post by: Mose on August 31, 2011, 01:03:41 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14733502.stm
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 31, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
Ah now see Stoke agree to buy striker Cameron Jerome from Birmingham.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14733502.stm
Finally ah sensible strike partner for KJ
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 31, 2011, 01:46:26 PM
Post by: dinho on August 31, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Is only 6 footers men hadda mark from now on - Shawcross, Huth, Upson, Jones, Crouch in yuh craw.
I feeling sorry for EPL keepers already.. Pressure!
Post by: ckhan on August 31, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Post by: davidephraim on September 16, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
Can't wait for this rematch down in de Britannica.
Post by: maxg on September 24, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
Post by: davidephraim on September 24, 2011, 01:09:38 PM
Way to go Stoke for holding de big ManU to a draw and coulda nearly buss de tail too.!
Post by: giggsy11 on September 24, 2011, 02:46:47 PM
Was about to say "stoke it up the glory glory" and then ah see who score , an realize ah doh like he more :banginghead:
I doh like him neither and is not even about him pullin Sancho's hair; he just always have a shupid look on he face, he tall for no reason because he still have tuh foul people tuh use his height advantage. IAnd if he wasn't English he would have been playing first division football already!
Post by: Socapro on October 19, 2011, 10:40:13 PM
Jones back for Stoke City
Story Created: Oct 19, 2011 at 11:58 PM ECT
Trinidad and Tobago will likely have the services of their captain Kenwyne Jones for a pair of crucial 2014 World Cup qualifiers home and away against Guyana on November 11 and 15.
Jones missed T&T's last two qualifiers—a 2-1 loss away to Bermuda and a 4-0 win over Barbados in Port of Spain—due to injury.
Yesterday, his manager at English Premiership club Stoke City indicated that the striker had recovered from a recent hamstring injury.
Tony Pulis indicated that Jones will be in contention for a place in Stoke's starting line-up when they face Maccabi Tel Aviv in their latest Europa League Group E at the Britannia Stadium today.
The £8 million frontman was eased back into the first team picture for last Saturday's 2-0 victory over Fulham when he was an unused substitute, but now he could make his comeback in the Europa League tie against Maccabi.
Jones is one of a number of players who will be hoping for a call-up as the Stoke manager considers changes for the game with the Israeli side, while he has also hinted that Danny Higginbotham may have some involvement after his long lay-off.
But Pulis stressed: "We will be putting out a strong side because winning our home games in this group is the key to us qualifying for the next stage. But it's the squad that will make us successful so we need to change things around a bit."
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link pleasehttp://magic-sportz.blogspot.com/p/channel-3_9446.html
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Post by: de_redman on November 03, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
Post by: Peong on November 03, 2011, 07:17:41 PM
I find Stoke real handlin it in the Europa.
Post by: maxg on November 06, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
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Post by: supporter on November 07, 2011, 02:20:23 PM
Post by: Bitter on November 07, 2011, 03:25:32 PM
Problem is, Fuller and Sidibe are injured, and they have problems in the back, so Pulis playing a conservative formation, which means less goals, which keeps the cycle going.
The Delap, long-throw thing not working anymore either.
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 07, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
So someone tell me the last time KJ started a PL match and then tell me he hasnt been forgotten.http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=178399
Post by: Mose on November 07, 2011, 03:52:55 PM
Post by: FF on November 07, 2011, 04:04:14 PM
Like y'all forget Kenwyne was injured recently.
me ent know whappen to dem nah
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 07, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
League 1 and below, you have our support. Progress too far and de hatchets come out.Like y'all forget Kenwyne was injured recently.
me ent know whappen to dem nah
Post by: de_redman on November 08, 2011, 06:33:13 AM
Post by: supporter on November 08, 2011, 12:43:32 PM
So someone tell me the last time KJ started a PL match and then tell me he hasnt been forgotten.http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=178399
Thank you for proving my point. That is the first projected team sheet for a PL match since Crouch's arrival where the majority want him to start. He was forgotten completely by the fans up until now. It took a 5-0 demolition against the PL's worst team for them to try throwing KJ in there.
Post by: supporter on November 08, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
Kenwyne plays 134 minutes in 7 days and we're complaining? ??? ... Save some energy for Friday Jonesy ... :challenge:
Its mostly Europa. Very little PL action this year since Crouch arrived.
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 08, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
I'm on there every day. Ain't nobody forget KJ.So someone tell me the last time KJ started a PL match and then tell me he hasnt been forgotten.http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=178399
Thank you for proving my point. That is the first projected team sheet for a PL match since Crouch's arrival where the majority want him to start. He was forgotten completely by the fans up until now. It too a 5-0 demolition against the PL's worst team for them to try throwing KJ in there.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 09, 2011, 12:19:34 PM
DM doh study dem an dat shit talk nah hoss.
Post by: supporter on November 09, 2011, 12:55:14 PM
Look how allyuh does talk schupid bullshit eh! Man say he barely seeing EPL action and has been forgotten. Somehow I doubt Stoke believe they can win the EPL, yet I don't think it's a stretch that they fashion themselves able to compete for the Europa Title. So if KJ getting more run in Europa right now, so fackin what?!! Apart from that I guess he needed to start in the first game back after the international break or play 90 after coming off injury so as to appease some ah allyuh here.
Take a breath and ask yourself which is more important to the club and its fans, the PL or Europa?
Post by: supporter on November 09, 2011, 12:55:48 PM
I'm on there every day. Ain't nobody forget KJ.So someone tell me the last time KJ started a PL match and then tell me he hasnt been forgotten.http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=178399
Thank you for proving my point. That is the first projected team sheet for a PL match since Crouch's arrival where the majority want him to start. He was forgotten completely by the fans up until now. It too a 5-0 demolition against the PL's worst team for them to try throwing KJ in there.
So am I. You seeing what you want to see
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 09, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
Look how allyuh does talk schupid bullshit eh! Man say he barely seeing EPL action and has been forgotten. Somehow I doubt Stoke believe they can win the EPL, yet I don't think it's a stretch that they fashion themselves able to compete for the Europa Title. So if KJ getting more run in Europa right now, so fackin what?!! Apart from that I guess he needed to start in the first game back after the international break or play 90 after coming off injury so as to appease some ah allyuh here.
Take a breath and ask yourself which is more important to the club and its fans, the PL or Europa?
To the average SCFC fan I imagine is EPL right now. However if they start seeing where the club has an opportunity to bring home the Europa Cup, I doubt they'll be upset that they finished mid table in the premiership
Post by: de_redman on November 21, 2011, 05:50:37 AM
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Kenwyne Jones has urged Tony Pulis to give him an opportunity to help Stoke break out of their Premier League slump.
A 3-2 reversal against Queens Park Rangers on Saturday was the Potters' fourth defeat in a row and they are now just three points above the drop zone.
Pulis needs to find a solution to their current woes and a tactical reshuffle could be the answer.
Jones hopes such a move will see him given another chance to shine, with the burly frontman having slipped behind Peter Crouch and Jon Walters in the Potters' pecking order.
He has not started a top flight fixture since 28th August, but feels he could do a job if called upon after proving in the Europa League that he is capable of leading the line.
Luck
After coming on as a second half substitute against QPR, Jones said: "My form is okay. I need a decent run of games in the league now to transfer that European form.
"It is always difficult coming on but sometimes you need the luck of the draw and that didn't happen.
"Of course we are going to be concerned. It is five defeats in six. No-one wants to lose that amount of games.
"We have a lot of matches coming up to put that right but we can only look forward to the next important game."
Post by: royal on November 21, 2011, 06:32:40 AM
Jones Pleads with Pulis
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Kenwyne Jones has urged Tony Pulis to give him an opportunity to help Stoke break out of their Premier League slump.
A 3-2 reversal against Queens Park Rangers on Saturday was the Potters' fourth defeat in a row and they are now just three points above the drop zone.
Pulis needs to find a solution to their current woes and a tactical reshuffle could be the answer.
Jones hopes such a move will see him given another chance to shine, with the burly frontman having slipped behind Peter Crouch and Jon Walters in the Potters' pecking order.
He has not started a top flight fixture since 28th August, but feels he could do a job if called upon after proving in the Europa League that he is capable of leading the line.
Luck
After coming on as a second half substitute against QPR, Jones said: "My form is okay. I need a decent run of games in the league now to transfer that European form.
"It is always difficult coming on but sometimes you need the luck of the draw and that didn't happen.
"Of course we are going to be concerned. It is five defeats in six. No-one wants to lose that amount of games.
"We have a lot of matches coming up to put that right but we can only look forward to the next important game."
a taught Crouch was de answer?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 21, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Jones Pleads with Pulis
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Kenwyne Jones has urged Tony Pulis to give him an opportunity to help Stoke break out of their Premier League slump.
A 3-2 reversal against Queens Park Rangers on Saturday was the Potters' fourth defeat in a row and they are now just three points above the drop zone.
Pulis needs to find a solution to their current woes and a tactical reshuffle could be the answer.
Jones hopes such a move will see him given another chance to shine, with the burly frontman having slipped behind Peter Crouch and Jon Walters in the Potters' pecking order.
He has not started a top flight fixture since 28th August, but feels he could do a job if called upon after proving in the Europa League that he is capable of leading the line.
Luck
After coming on as a second half substitute against QPR, Jones said: "My form is okay. I need a decent run of games in the league now to transfer that European form.
"It is always difficult coming on but sometimes you need the luck of the draw and that didn't happen.
"Of course we are going to be concerned. It is five defeats in six. No-one wants to lose that amount of games.
"We have a lot of matches coming up to put that right but we can only look forward to the next important game."
a taught Crouch was de answer?
Aye Crouchie is ah boss and far better than KJ so doh tote ::)
Post by: supporter on November 23, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
Post by: Bitter on November 26, 2011, 08:29:36 AM
I doh know how Steve Kean get a contract extension. Blackburn are terrible.
...and as I type that, they score. 3-1 now to Stoke
Post by: Bitter on November 26, 2011, 08:44:40 AM
That probably means he gets sacked
Post by: theworm2345 on December 01, 2011, 04:16:52 PM
Post by: FireBrand on December 01, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
Stoke 1 - 1 Dynamo Kiev
BBC Sport
Kenwyne Jones's towering late header ensured Stoke progressed to the knockout phase of the Europa League.
Dynamo Kiev dominated the first half and took a deserved lead when Matthew Upson steered Olexandr Aliyev's low shot into his own net.
But the Potters raised their game and were rewarded when Jones powered in Jermaine Pennant's pinpoint cross.
A stunning stoppage time save by Asmir Begovic ensured Stoke only need a draw at Besiktas to top Group E.
The result had looked far from certain as Stoke, who become the first English club to progress to the last 32, were outplayed for much of the first half.
They struggled to keep up with Dynamo's quick, incisive passing and the home side were cut open several times.
Aliyev was the brightest of Dynamo's impressive forward-line, firing a couple of dangerous shots at Begovic's goal, with Andriy Yarmolenko also coming close in the early stages.
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This is the first time Stoke have gone beyond the first round in European competition. They were previously knocked out by Kaiserslautern in 1972/73 and Ajax in 1974/75
So it was not unexpected when the Ukrainian side took a deserved lead - and it came courtesy of an own goal by Stoke skipper Upson.
Yarmolenko drove towards the backpedalling Stoke defence before releasing Aliyev, whose powerful low drive was steered into his own net by Upson, despite the best efforts of Begovic to keep it out.
The goal had been coming, mainly because of Stoke's inability to contain the inventive Aliyev.
Stoke continued to labour after going behind and Shevchenko should have made it 2-0 before the break, but the former Chelsea striker could only slice his left-footed shot against the outside of the post after Aliyev's piercing through ball.
Tony Pulis's side were brighter in the second half and Wilson Palacios latched onto Rory Delap's ball over the defence before forcing goalkeeper Olexandr Shovkovskiy to smother.
Moments later Pennant saw his drilled shot cleared off the line by Yevhen Khacheridi, as the visitors were suddenly unable to deal with Stoke's sustained assault.
Stoke's equaliser eventually came courtesy of Jones, who evaded his marker to head home Pennant's cross from the right, and substitute Peter Crouch was swiftly ordered to put his tracksuit back on.
The equaliser gave way to a nervy end for Stoke, who have Begovic to thank for a magnificent fingertip save from Yarmolenko in the dying seconds.
The striker's stinging effort was superbly tipped around the post by the Bosnian stopper, with the shot seeming destined for the back of the net.
Post by: Blue on December 11, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
Presenter: So Dwight, what do you like about this Tottenham side?
Dwight: Well, its just the flairness that they play with.
:rotfl:
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2011, 10:39:33 AM
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Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2011, 11:53:11 AM
Meanwhile, Crouch hitting man all kinda step-over, flick and backheel... playing striker, right winger... wherever the ball fall or they need him. Assisted on the first goal by setting the table for Etherington. 2-1 Stoke in 90+2' (5 mins added).
EDIT: Final
Post by: ribbit on December 11, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 11, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
Dwight: Well, its just the flairness that they play with.
:rotfl:
That is my new word for the week!
Flairness - Definition:
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Post by: Mango Chow! on December 11, 2011, 05:15:46 PM
Spurs getting all kinda robbed from the ref... Defoe get bundled over on a scramble in the box, clear penalty... nutten. Same scramble sequence, shot on goal, off a Stoke elbow on the goal line... good save, apparently... ball drop to Adebayor in an onside (by a hair) position who knocks it past Friedel... offside, no goal. 7 minutes later, Kaboul foul a man, routine clip from behind in a non-threatening position... yellow card, second of the match... Spurs down to 10 men for the final 10 mins, lol.
Meanwhile, Crouch hitting man all kinda step-over, flick and backheel... playing striker, right winger... wherever the ball fall or they need him. Assisted on the first goal by setting the table for Etherington. 2-1 Stoke in 90+2' (5 mins added).
EDIT: Final
Ths is d same man who always tellin' people how dunce dey is and how dey cyah read? "Stupid is as stupid does."
Post by: just cool on December 12, 2011, 04:45:36 AM
Your cuss sure in the morning! right now he probably bussin pipe on mrs sharks, so yuh safe until the jack daniels ware off. :whistling: but when pardner read this bit, yuh in fuh ah run of give and takes, just be ready, and mind you, he just might dun yuh in ah dread way. ah hope yuh could handle it. ;DSpurs getting all kinda robbed from the ref... Defoe get bundled over on a scramble in the box, clear penalty... nutten. Same scramble sequence, shot on goal, off a Stoke elbow on the goal line... good save, apparently... ball drop to Adebayor in an onside (by a hair) position who knocks it past Friedel... offside, no goal. 7 minutes later, Kaboul foul a man, routine clip from behind in a non-threatening position... yellow card, second of the match... Spurs down to 10 men for the final 10 mins, lol.
Meanwhile, Crouch hitting man all kinda step-over, flick and backheel... playing striker, right winger... wherever the ball fall or they need him. Assisted on the first goal by setting the table for Etherington. 2-1 Stoke in 90+2' (5 mins added).
EDIT: Final
Ths is d same man who always tellin' people how dunce dey is and how dey cyah read? "Stupid is as stupid does."
Post by: PantherX on December 13, 2011, 01:07:31 AM
Spurs getting all kinda robbed from the ref... Defoe get bundled over on a scramble in the box, clear penalty... nutten. Same scramble sequence, shot on goal, off a Stoke elbow on the goal line... good save, apparently... ball drop to Adebayor in an onside (by a hair) position who knocks it past Friedel... offside, no goal. 7 minutes later, Kaboul foul a man, routine clip from behind in a non-threatening position... yellow card, second of the match... Spurs down to 10 men for the final 10 mins, lol.
Meanwhile, Crouch hitting man all kinda step-over, flick and backheel... playing striker, right winger... wherever the ball fall or they need him. Assisted on the first goal by setting the table for Etherington. 2-1 Stoke in 90+2' (5 mins added).
EDIT: Final
There definitely were several questionable decisions by the officials but we had enough opportunities in front of goal to win the game, couple that with the piss poor first half showing and we only have ourselves to blame. Hopefully the players will learn from this and be stronger for the experience.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 02:50:19 AM
Your cuss sure in the morning! right now he probably bussin pipe on mrs sharks, so yuh safe until the jack daniels ware off. :whistling: but when pardner read this bit, yuh in fuh ah run of give and takes, just be ready, and mind you, he just might dun yuh in ah dread way. ah hope yuh could handle it. ;DSpurs getting all kinda robbed from the ref... Defoe get bundled over on a scramble in the box, clear penalty... nutten. Same scramble sequence, shot on goal, off a Stoke elbow on the goal line... good save, apparently... ball drop to Adebayor in an onside (by a hair) position who knocks it past Friedel... offside, no goal. 7 minutes later, Kaboul foul a man, routine clip from behind in a non-threatening position... yellow card, second of the match... Spurs down to 10 men for the final 10 mins, lol.
Meanwhile, Crouch hitting man all kinda step-over, flick and backheel... playing striker, right winger... wherever the ball fall or they need him. Assisted on the first goal by setting the table for Etherington. 2-1 Stoke in 90+2' (5 mins added).
EDIT: Final
Ths is d same man who always tellin' people how dunce dey is and how dey cyah read? "Stupid is as stupid does."
I right here.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 02:52:58 AM
There definitely were several questionable decisions by the officials but we had enough opportunities in front of goal to win the game, couple that with the piss poor first half showing and we only have ourselves to blame. Hopefully the players will learn from this and be stronger for the experience.
...sometimes it just really doh be that easy nuh. These fellas is professionals, but they is professional human beings. The officiating in this match was absolutely HORRIBLE!!
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2011, 07:36:26 AM
Ths is d same man who always tellin' people how dunce dey is and how dey cyah read? "Stupid is as stupid does."
Unless yuh offering yuh own sterling contribution as an example, I fail to see what any of this hormonal hyperventilating have to do with what I wrote.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 05:22:52 PM
Ths is d same man who always tellin' people how dunce dey is and how dey cyah read? "Stupid is as stupid does."
Unless yuh offering yuh own sterling contribution as an example, I fail to see what any of this hormonal hyperventilating have to do with what I wrote.
listen nuh....it have enough people on here does do match reports/match updates and dey does do a rel good job....What they does write does be entertaining, vivid to the imagination, informative and most of all, accurate. You and yuh bland, redundant lil' snippets of :bs: don't cut it because 99% of the time you tellin' we shit we see fuh we self arready. BUT, since yuh want to take off yuh King Jackass hat and try on d "sports journalist" one, know the basics nuh. Go and take a look at the rosters of the two teams nuh, and get yuh shit right before yuh come on here tryin' to look like yuh doin' something. Yuh always referencing people hormones and menstruation and shit, like, dize how your faddah teach you to grow up to be a man? dize all yuh could ever talk about? Like is an obsession fuh you. Maybe is YOUR estrogen levels was higher than normal that yuh still cyah see the shit yuh write. The only thing worth "adding" to this is toilet paper, so come again nuh.
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
listen nuh....it have enough people on here does do match reports/match updates and dey does do a rel good job....What they does write does be entertaining, vivid to the imagination, informative and most of all, accurate. You and yuh bland, redundant lil' snippets of :bs: don't cut it because 99% of the time you tellin' we shit we see fuh we self arready. BUT, since yuh want to take off yuh King Jackass hat and try on d "sports journalist" one, know the basics nuh. Go and take a look at the rosters of the two teams nuh, and get yuh shit right before yuh come on here tryin' to look like yuh doin' something. Yuh always referencing people hormones and menstruation and shit, like, dize how your faddah teach you to grow up to be a man? dize all yuh could ever talk about? Like is an obsession fuh you. Maybe is YOUR estrogen levels was higher than normal that yuh still cyah see the shit yuh write. The only thing worth "adding" to this is toilet paper, so come again nuh.
Wait nuh... THIS is what you here bitching about?? You doh like the comments I making on a game? Look fella make ah turn and go f**k yuhself yes. All de time I reading your little rants with ah bemused smile on my face not knowing is bitch you really being ah f**king bitch, stalking man online like I f**k yuh wife or something.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 09:24:13 PM
listen nuh....it have enough people on here does do match reports/match updates and dey does do a rel good job....What they does write does be entertaining, vivid to the imagination, informative and most of all, accurate. You and yuh bland, redundant lil' snippets of :bs: don't cut it because 99% of the time you tellin' we shit we see fuh we self arready. BUT, since yuh want to take off yuh King Jackass hat and try on d "sports journalist" one, know the basics nuh. Go and take a look at the rosters of the two teams nuh, and get yuh shit right before yuh come on here tryin' to look like yuh doin' something. Yuh always referencing people hormones and menstruation and shit, like, dize how your faddah teach you to grow up to be a man? dize all yuh could ever talk about? Like is an obsession fuh you. Maybe is YOUR estrogen levels was higher than normal that yuh still cyah see the shit yuh write. The only thing worth "adding" to this is toilet paper, so come again nuh.
Wait nuh... THIS is what you here bitching about?? You doh like the comments I making on a game? Look fella make ah turn and go f**k yuhself yes. All de time I reading your little rants with ah bemused smile on my face not knowing is bitch you really being ah f**king bitch, stalking man online like I f**k yuh wife or something.
Asshole. go back to my ORIGINAL post to get the gist of what I was telling your dumb c**t. The fact that I tell yuh your shit updates does be boring and bland is just a side note. Yuh does be on here playin' mr know it all, tellin' people how chupid dey is, how dey cyah READ and yet you cyah even read yuh own bullshit. All these "bemused smiles" is really at yourself, yuh arrogant prick. Yuh can't even see yuh own OBVIOUS BIG mistake and cyah read between simple lines "...go and check the rosters..." yuh lil' c**t,": Adebayor couldn't POSSIBLY be in an onside OR offside position and knockin' nutting past Freidel because they on the same TEAM yuh f**kin' asshole. If yuh want to play "reporter" and yuh does so want to play mr corrector then you hadda make sure YOUR shit is 100% correct at all times yuh f**kin' ass. How de f**k YOU don't know that Adebayor and Freidel plain' fuh spurs TOGETHER?!
Post by: Bakes on December 13, 2011, 10:46:11 PM
Asshole. go back to my ORIGINAL post to get the gist of what I was telling your dumb c**t. The fact that I tell yuh your shit updates does be boring and bland is just a side note. Yuh does be on here playin' mr know it all, tellin' people how chupid dey is, how dey cyah READ and yet you cyah even read yuh own bullshit. All these "bemused smiles" is really at yourself, yuh arrogant prick. Yuh can't even see yuh own OBVIOUS BIG mistake and cyah read between simple lines "...go and check the rosters..." yuh lil' c**t,": Adebayor couldn't POSSIBLY be in an onside OR offside position and knockin' nutting past Freidel because they on the same TEAM yuh f**kin' asshole. If yuh want to play "reporter" and yuh does so want to play mr corrector then you hadda make sure YOUR shit is 100% correct at all times yuh f**kin' ass. How de f**k YOU don't know that Adebayor and Freidel plain' fuh spurs TOGETHER?!
So all this drama-filled, bitchfest, fish market woman cussout, stems from me saying Brad Friedel instead of Thomas Sorensen in a stream-of-conscious post?
Bitchassness.
Post by: Mango Chow! on December 13, 2011, 11:05:52 PM
Asshole. go back to my ORIGINAL post to get the gist of what I was telling your dumb c**t. The fact that I tell yuh your shit updates does be boring and bland is just a side note. Yuh does be on here playin' mr know it all, tellin' people how chupid dey is, how dey cyah READ and yet you cyah even read yuh own bullshit. All these "bemused smiles" is really at yourself, yuh arrogant prick. Yuh can't even see yuh own OBVIOUS BIG mistake and cyah read between simple lines "...go and check the rosters..." yuh lil' c**t,": Adebayor couldn't POSSIBLY be in an onside OR offside position and knockin' nutting past Freidel because they on the same TEAM yuh f**kin' asshole. If yuh want to play "reporter" and yuh does so want to play mr corrector then you hadda make sure YOUR shit is 100% correct at all times yuh f**kin' ass. How de f**k YOU don't know that Adebayor and Freidel plain' fuh spurs TOGETHER?!
So all this drama-filled, bitchfest, fish market woman cussout, stems from me saying Brad Friedel instead of Thomas Sorensen in a stream-of-conscious post?
Bitchassness.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, fag. Yuh supposed to keep yuh "stream-of-conscious" ness to yuh self, fag, not come on here tryin' to play "mr update" wit yuh mis-sayings. The cheapest jackass in the pen wouldn't mistake Brad Friedel for Thomas Sorensen, not even in their own mind. and nobody else on here would make that mistake....not without you tellin' dem how blind they is. So make sure yuh get yuh shit right, (and I mean, even the simple little things, too) before yuh coe on here wit yuh drivel.
Post by: davidephraim on December 14, 2011, 12:02:43 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 14, 2011, 12:21:13 PM
Post by: davidephraim on December 14, 2011, 12:31:54 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 14, 2011, 01:34:23 PM
Post by: Bitter on December 14, 2011, 01:41:00 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on December 14, 2011, 01:51:49 PM
Edu make that look real easy eh.
And it really isn't. The defender correctly played towards near post to seal the angle and Edu sweep it perfectly towards the far post left of the defender. That is what yuh call shooting!!
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
Post by: Blue on December 14, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
So wha'iz de score?they lost 3-1
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2011, 04:18:23 PM
So wha'iz de score?they lost 3-1
Thanks.
Damn, hard luck dey Stokes... too bad Pulis couldn't shrink the dimensions today ;D
Post by: theworm2345 on December 14, 2011, 07:50:17 PM
Damn, hard luck dey Stokes... too bad Pulis couldn't shrink the dimensions today ;DThey won't be too concerned, they were through before the match started and only brought 15 to Istanbul though Europa League allows 18 in the squad. Only difference is they finish second in the group now (I don't think that matters as I believe the draw for the next round is random, not sure though).
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2011, 08:10:04 PM
Damn, hard luck dey Stokes... too bad Pulis couldn't shrink the dimensions today ;DThey won't be too concerned, they were through before the match started and only brought 15 to Istanbul though Europa League allows 18 in the squad. Only difference is they finish second in the group now (I don't think that matters as I believe the draw for the next round is random, not sure though).
Oh okay... I thought this was the knockout round that just started. I still sour on Stokes for the stunt they pull on Liverpool two months ago so ah hating hard. Will support them in Europe though.
Post by: davidephraim on December 14, 2011, 08:12:46 PM
Damn, hard luck dey Stokes... too bad Pulis couldn't shrink the dimensions today ;DThey won't be too concerned, they were through before the match started and only brought 15 to Istanbul though Europa League allows 18 in the squad. Only difference is they finish second in the group now (I don't think that matters as I believe the draw for the next round is random, not sure though).
Oh okay... I thought this was the knockout round that just started. I still sour on Stokes for the stunt they pull on Liverpool two months ago so ah hating hard. Will support them in Europe though.
lol. Yuh holdin dah grudge hard boy.
Post by: Bakes on December 14, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
lol. Yuh holdin dah grudge hard boy.
Stoke is shit... and always will be shit ;D
In all seriousness they right below we in de table so ah still want tuh see dem get dey ass buss in de PL.
Post by: FF on December 15, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
lol. Yuh holdin dah grudge hard boy.
Stoke is shit... and always will be shit ;D
In all seriousness they right below we in de table so ah still want tuh see dem get dey ass buss in de PL.
Except if dey playing de people on top of allyuh
Post by: Bakes on December 15, 2011, 10:51:12 AM
Except if dey playing de people on top of allyuh
True talk... hope they play on ah small goal pitch against City and dem others lol
Post by: FireBrand on December 21, 2011, 01:39:03 PM
Post by: supporter on December 22, 2011, 10:48:12 AM
Jones is in the starting line-up against Man City.
Penis, I mean Pulis, decided to start his second team against City. A futile sweat for KJ.
Post by: de_redman on March 31, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
Stoke vs Wigan ... Crouch and Walters started while Jerome and Fuller came off the bench.
Kenwyn's time at Stoke seems to be up...
Post by: maxg on March 31, 2012, 10:10:11 AM
Is Kenwyn the 5th choice striker at Stoke???and/or Pulis as well
Stoke vs Wigan ... Crouch and Walters started while Jerome and Fuller came off the bench.
Kenwyn's time at Stoke seems to be up...
Post by: de_redman on March 31, 2012, 10:28:11 AM
I disagree. Stoke love Pulis. Big reason why they survive every year.Is Kenwyn the 5th choice striker at Stoke???and/or Pulis as well
Stoke vs Wigan ... Crouch and Walters started while Jerome and Fuller came off the bench.
Kenwyn's time at Stoke seems to be up...
Post by: Dinner Mints on March 31, 2012, 10:50:37 AM
Not anymore. De backlash against Pulis start long time. Maybe the board still love him, which I guess is all that matters.I disagree. Stoke love Pulis. Big reason why they survive every year.Is Kenwyn the 5th choice striker at Stoke???and/or Pulis as well
Stoke vs Wigan ... Crouch and Walters started while Jerome and Fuller came off the bench.
Kenwyn's time at Stoke seems to be up...
Post by: maxg on April 24, 2012, 12:01:39 PM
If he did play, we woulda see how much he throw way, on account ah how up to standard he ain't...*insert chooking fire emoticon here* :devil:
Post by: Cocorite on April 24, 2012, 12:27:54 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on April 24, 2012, 12:39:28 PM
Anybody see the last Stoke game. I miss it too, buh ah see they get 3, but since KJ only poops down the bench, it doh have nothing to talk bout ? ::)Stoke have the least amount of goals in all of English football right now, and average 2 shots on goal per game. Dey have de 3rd worst record since January 1st. Pulis sticking to his non-firing guns, though.
If he did play, we woulda see how much he throw way, on account ah how up to standard he ain't...*insert chooking fire emoticon here* :devil:
And he reportedly turn down 2 Prem team loan offers for KJ, too. So me eh know what his scene is with de man career.
Post by: de_redman on May 09, 2012, 07:18:24 AM
Boss ready to offload Stoke players at the end of the season
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Stoke manager Tony Pulis has revealed he is planning a shake-up of his Potters squad in the summer.
A number of players are out of contract at the Britannia Stadium at the end of the season and Pulis says he could offload them to make way for new signings.
The club have been linked with a move for Blackburn defender Martin Olsson following Rovers' relegation from the Premier League as the manager looks to freshen up his resources.
Shake-up
Pulis said: "We're going to shake it up a bit in the summer, and that means letting players leave.
"There will be one or two changes, with players out of contract and those who will not be happy at not playing.
"The important thing is that we keep pushing forward.
"The team has been successful in the Premier League. We can't let that drop off. It's finding the right balance."
Post by: davidephraim on May 09, 2012, 07:23:35 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 09, 2012, 09:37:56 AM
please correck me if I am wrong but when KJ and walters were paired for the first portion of de season weren't stoke doing a whole lot better? So dey bring Crouch and he was supposed to make everything better but clearly it didnt. I dont want to be biased of meh countryman here but what gives? They were a leap or two better with teams like manu and chelse fraid to go down in de Britannica and all dat jazz. No body dont fraid dem no more. comments?
Spot on but to hear some tell it Crouch is head and shoulders better than KJ yet the team dipped when Crouchie supplanted KJ. Is not no bias thing is simple truth, Stoke is not as formidable as they were. Also contributing to this is the addition of Palacios who quite frankly has looked awful the times I've been able to see them and he was on the pitch. The Jerome signing made sense because he added another dimension to their attack that was certainly lacking. To me Fuller KJ Jerome and Walters were a good frontline for them. Even in Europa KJ was causing teams lots of problems. I knew Crouch wasn't going to bench given they signed him foe even more than KJ but I certainly didn't see hime becoming the favored striker especially given that the club was clearly not doing as well. Man will fight dong my statement but I am still conviced that Crouch only continues to get work in the Prem because he is English. He doesn't bring anything more to the teams aspiarations than KJ does. So it goes though. Still KJ will still find another taker, if Heskie can survive this long and Crouch could keep getting teams to bite I can't see why KJ having such a hard time.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 09, 2012, 10:04:37 AM
please correck me if I am wrong but when KJ and walters were paired for the first portion of de season weren't stoke doing a whole lot better? So dey bring Crouch and he was supposed to make everything better but clearly it didnt. I dont want to be biased of meh countryman here but what gives? They were a leap or two better with teams like manu and chelse fraid to go down in de Britannica and all dat jazz. No body dont fraid dem no more. comments?
Spot on but to hear some tell it Crouch is head and shoulders better than KJ yet the team dipped when Crouchie supplanted KJ. Is not no bias thing is simple truth, Stoke is not as formidable as they were. Also contributing to this is the addition of Palacios who quite frankly has looked awful the times I've been able to see them and he was on the pitch. The Jerome signing made sense because he added another dimension to their attack that was certainly lacking. To me Fuller KJ Jerome and Walters were a good frontline for them. Even in Europa KJ was causing teams lots of problems. I knew Crouch wasn't going to bench given they signed him foe even more than KJ but I certainly didn't see hime becoming the favored striker especially given that the club was clearly not doing as well. Man will fight dong my statement but I am still conviced that Crouch only continues to get work in the Prem because he is English. He doesn't bring anything more to the teams aspiarations than KJ does. So it goes though. Still KJ will still find another taker, if Heskie can survive this long and Crouch could keep getting teams to bite I can't see why KJ having such a hard time.
I honestly think KJ's problems lie in his supposed (lack of) effort on the field. His body language combined with a lack of expected results don't seem to be doing him any favours.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 09, 2012, 10:22:33 AM
please correck me if I am wrong but when KJ and walters were paired for the first portion of de season weren't stoke doing a whole lot better? So dey bring Crouch and he was supposed to make everything better but clearly it didnt. I dont want to be biased of meh countryman here but what gives? They were a leap or two better with teams like manu and chelse fraid to go down in de Britannica and all dat jazz. No body dont fraid dem no more. comments?
Spot on but to hear some tell it Crouch is head and shoulders better than KJ yet the team dipped when Crouchie supplanted KJ. Is not no bias thing is simple truth, Stoke is not as formidable as they were. Also contributing to this is the addition of Palacios who quite frankly has looked awful the times I've been able to see them and he was on the pitch. The Jerome signing made sense because he added another dimension to their attack that was certainly lacking. To me Fuller KJ Jerome and Walters were a good frontline for them. Even in Europa KJ was causing teams lots of problems. I knew Crouch wasn't going to bench given they signed him foe even more than KJ but I certainly didn't see hime becoming the favored striker especially given that the club was clearly not doing as well. Man will fight dong my statement but I am still conviced that Crouch only continues to get work in the Prem because he is English. He doesn't bring anything more to the teams aspiarations than KJ does. So it goes though. Still KJ will still find another taker, if Heskie can survive this long and Crouch could keep getting teams to bite I can't see why KJ having such a hard time.
I honestly think KJ's problems lie in his supposed (lack of) effort on the field. His body language combined with a lack of expected results don't seem to be doing him any favours.
I can agree with that. Still the performance of the team was worse, so despite his unencoraging appearance at times he was still a better fit it would seem. It probably doesn't help the team that pennant and Pulis had a falling out at some point to causing the coach to shuffle him from the starting XI where he was entrenched.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 09, 2012, 10:49:06 AM
I see some rumors that Aston Villa trying to get him, though. Probably false, but who knows. KJ and Bent worked well together.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 09, 2012, 11:03:31 AM
I still think Crouch is a better overall player than KJ, but KJ brought more to Stoke shitty style of play. For all the money Pulis spend on an 'upgrade', Crouch only have one more goal than KJ had last season. Plus now nobody from midfield scoring or benefitting from KJ occupying defenders.
I see some rumors that Aston Villa trying to get him, though. Probably false, but who knows. KJ and Bent worked well together.
That might just have legs not only for the reason you pointed out but also Heskey has been his normal non threatening self which has been far less than needed given the unerwhelming season almost concluded. As far as being better I could never agree with that in Crouch favor as far as club football goes. Numbers don't lie and to date his numbers are within 10ths and 100ths of a percentage better than KJ. Don't seem like the markings of a better player in my book
Post by: D.H.W on May 09, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
Post by: royal on May 09, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
The title of this thread rel funny, I wonder how much people will support this club when KJ leaves.
The Sunderland forever thread still have one supporter,the Stoke forever thread will have less than that
Post by: davidephraim on May 09, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
The title of this thread rel funny, I wonder how much people will support this club when KJ leaves.
The Sunderland forever thread still have one supporter,the Stoke forever thread will have less than that
I for one done with Stoke for dam sure. Im hoping KJ leaves so I dont have to watch dis shitty team anymore. And Pulis is now a backside in my book. not an Alex Mc Clesh kinda backside or a steve bruce kinda backside but a backside non the less.good riddance.
Post by: just cool on May 09, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
All english coaches are backsides! in case yuh didn't know. and KJ was unlucky to have played for the biggest ones.The title of this thread rel funny, I wonder how much people will support this club when KJ leaves.
The Sunderland forever thread still have one supporter,the Stoke forever thread will have less than that
I for one done with Stoke for dam sure. Im hoping KJ leaves so I dont have to watch dis shitty team anymore. And Pulis is now a backside in my book. not an Alex Mc Clesh kinda backside or a steve bruce kinda backside but a backside non the less.good riddance.
i believe if KJ wants to improve on whats left of his game and time as a footballer, then he should go play for ah non english coach who could teach him something about being a striker..
BTW, when i say english, i meant to say any coach from the UK, including ireland. and oh yeh, take sir alex and arry off that list. ;)
Post by: de_redman on June 15, 2012, 08:15:54 AM
Convenience key for former Manchester United striker
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Michael Owen is expected to complete a move to Stoke next month after being released by Manchester United.
Owen has endured an injury-hit spell at the Red Devils, making just six Premier League starts for the club in a three-year stay.
But there remains interest in the England international with Owen having shown enough to suggest he retains his goalscoring instinct if fit enough to get onto the field.
Stoke boss Tony Pulis recently admitted he is interested in Owen "along with a number of other players" and the Potters would appear to be a good fit for the 32-year-old.
Stoke is just 30 miles from the striker's Manor House Stables complex and with the former Liverpool man building an increasingly impressive reputation in the world of horse racing that could be a motivating factor.
Pulis would certainly welcome help in the goalscoring department as his side finished last season with just 36 Premier League goals - the worst record in the division.
The main stumbling block to a move would seem to be reports of tentative interest from Everton.
But with uncertainty surrounding the future of David Moyes at Goodison Park, the 2001 Ballon d'Or winner is set to opt for a move to the Britannia Stadium.
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Post by: davidephraim on June 15, 2012, 09:15:28 AM
Post by: Mr Fix-it on June 15, 2012, 09:59:40 AM
when ah see dis thread front and center ah was hopeful that it was talkiing about KJ leaving and where he going next but alas, no such luck!
Boy KJ riding pine until dey ready to let him go
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 15, 2012, 10:30:15 AM
when ah see dis thread front and center ah was hopeful that it was talkiing about KJ leaving and where he going next but alas, no such luck!Rumor saying West Ham, but I hope not.
Post by: Raul on August 13, 2012, 05:58:42 AM
August 13, 2012
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1133292/stoke-city-persisting-in-bid-to-sign-michael-owen?cc=3888
By Ian Edwards
Peter Coates will continue to negotiate with Michael Owen over a potential transfer to Stoke City and insists hope of a deal to sign the former England international is not dead.
It appeared over the weekend that Owen had blighted his chances of a Premier League swansong at the Britannia Stadium when his wage demands were revealed to be around £70,000 a week.
Stoke chairman Coates last held negotiations with Owen's advisors around ten days ago, and the two parties remain "a million miles away" from a satisfactory conclusion to a transfer saga that has rumbled on since the striker left Old Trafford at the end of last season.
Coates has made it clear that the 32-year-old free agent would have to seriously re-evaluate his demands if he is to secure a deal from Tony Pulis to extend his career in the Premier League.
Rather than close all avenues of negotiation, Coates is prepared to wait until the end of the transfer window to see if the lack of suitors willing to meet Owen's demands will bring about a "reality check" for the striker.
Everton, Fulham and Stoke have all expressed an interest, and Owen has made it clear he has no intention of dropping down a level into the Championship despite a host of offers.
Stoke are willing to hand him a 12-month pay-as-you-play contract, similar to the one given to Jonathan Woodgate last season, with an incentive for a further 12-months - but it would only be worth around half of what Owen is demanding.
The club are still looking at potential ways of getting more leeway in their wage budget, with the possibility of Kenwyne Jones following Ricardo Fuller out of the Britannia Stadium.
Even then, Stoke would be reluctant to sanction high wages for Owen, who has been plagued by hamstring injuries in the last two years. Pulis has started exploring other avenues, with Jermain Defoe a potential target, but is prepared to wait for as long as it takes for Owen.
Coates has spent the last four seasons investing heavily in the transfer market to enable Pulis to keep Stoke in the Premier League, but this summer has made it clear that those levels of investment will cease.
Pulis and Coates have held several discussions about Owen and the Stoke manager is eager to add him to his playing squad as an "impact player" and to improve on his team's miserable return of 38 goals last season.
Stoke were the lowest scorers in the Premier League and Pulis is convinced that Owen, at full fitness, would make a significant improvement and provide an ideal foil for Peter Crouch.
Post by: maxg on August 15, 2012, 09:21:25 AM
http://www.footybadges.co.uk/Stoke_City_football_badges
Post by: de_redman on August 17, 2012, 06:11:17 AM
Villa manager waiting to see if moves materialise
www.skysports.com (http://www.skysports.com)
Paul Lambert has admitted he is an admirer of Jermain Defoe and Kenwyne Jones as he looks to bolster his squad further before the end of the month.
The Aston Villa manager has been linked with a move for another striker and Tottenham's Defoe is believed to be on his radar, along with Jones of Stoke.
But Lambert says it is a case of "wait and see" in terms of whether either will be heading to Villa Park.
When asked if he was interested in the pair, Lambert said: "You are talking about two really good players, different types of players there.
"I think a club this size will always be linked with players of that ilk.
"I don't think you ever stop looking for players. You have always got to try and improve.
"Whether they come in or not, we will have to wait and see but any manager will tell you, you are always going to look for players."
Post by: just cool on August 17, 2012, 09:55:12 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 17, 2012, 10:23:12 AM
This would be a nice move for jonsey, i sure bent has something to do with this.
That would be a great look indeed. I hope it materializes as he clearly doesn't have any place at stoke even though Crouch only marginally improves the side if anything.
Post by: FireBrand on August 21, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
Skysports.com
Striker hails 'fantastic' Defoe and Jones
Darren Bent claims he would relish the competition should manager Paul Lambert reinforce his striking options at Aston Villa and would welcome the arrival of Jermain Defoe and Kenwyne Jones.
The Midlanders have been linked with both Tottenham frontman Defoe and Stoke striker Jones after Villa forward Gabriel Agbonlahor picked up a knee injury in pre-season.
Bent believes Lambert still has decent options at his disposal in Nathan Delfouneso and Andreas Weimann, but feels any new additions would only benefit the club.
Competition
The striker, who has played alongside Jones at Sunderland and Defoe in the England set-up and at Spurs, told Sky Sports: "Competition is always good.
"We've still got some fantastic strikers at the club. Gabby is injured, Weimann came in did and really well, Nathan Delfouneso looks like he's ready to peak and it's his time.
"If the manager decides he wants to bring someone else in as well, it's only going to help Aston Villafootball club."
The striker added: "Defoe is a top international striker. He's a great finisher, he can score goals and make goals for himself. He'd be a fantastic addition.
"I've played with Kenywyne Jones before and he's a fantastic striker on his day. He's up there with the best of them.
"If we can get any of them two as well, it's going to be a welcome addition to the football club.
"I've played with both as well, that always helps. So I'm sure the manager has got someone in mind."
Bent is keen to impress with Villa this season in hope of winning back his place in the England squad after he failed to recover in time from an ankle ligament injury to be chosen by new head coach Roy Hodgson for Euro 2012.
Focus
He said: "It was hard to watch but I was supporting everyone again. I wanted them to do well in the tournament and it's unfortunate they went out on penalties again but I was watching as a fan and hoping we were going to win.
"All I can do now is concentrate on my club form. That's all I can do really.
"If I score goals for Villa and we play well and win games it's only going to help me get back into that England squad."
Post by: de_redman on August 26, 2012, 08:10:27 AM
Post by: D.H.W on August 26, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
Stoke please sell Kenwyn this week if you are not going to play him!!!!!!! :praying:
The man rotting away on that bench.
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 26, 2012, 10:24:01 AM
Stoke please sell Kenwyn this week if you are not going to play him!!!!!!! :praying:
kenwyne jones @KJ9nes
#clarity
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Post by: ckhan on August 26, 2012, 11:12:40 AM
It tells me that KJ will not be a Stoke player come Aug. 31st. If he is, I will be surprise!
Post by: jai john on August 27, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
Post by: Trinimassive on August 27, 2012, 11:36:52 AM
second division looks a likely bet at this point ..better you play every week than sit and watch.
He not going to do that.
It is much harder to go down a division and then try to come back up with yuh new team, another team or being bought from the Championship division.
If yuh in the premiership yuh want to stay there bench and all.
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 27, 2012, 01:32:25 PM
Post by: de_redman on August 27, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
He'll get a run in the cup game tomorrow. Better bring his 'A' game. Then he could either a) prove he deserve to start or b) make himself look nicer in the shop window.I was thinking that he would play in that cup game tomorrow also.... but if he doesn't then know that Stoke are working on a deal to get rid of him.
Post by: just cool on August 27, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
Come on guys, isn't it obvious that the man is on the auction block ??He'll get a run in the cup game tomorrow. Better bring his 'A' game. Then he could either a) prove he deserve to start or b) make himself look nicer in the shop window.I was thinking that he would play in that cup game tomorrow also.... but if he doesn't then know that Stoke are working on a deal to get rid of him.
the league started and he is not used in any of the games, IMO that spells "on your way out". given that lambert wants him, and villa had not been able to score goals with their lousy start to the season,we could see a bid coming in fopr him in the next few days.
looks like pullis wants back up in the front row before he sells, and as long as he gets it (micheal owen) then KJ would be on his merry way.
Post by: fitzinho on August 27, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901)
Benteke, 21, has been linked with a move to Fulham in recent weeks, but a £4 million offer from Villa looks set to clinch his signature and the Belgium international will be charged with forming a potent scoring partnership with Darren Bent.
The forward fired 16 goals for Genk last season and has already been on target in the opening few weeks of this new campaign, with his arrival at Villa Park set to be a huge boost to Lambert after a difficult start to his reign has seen him lose his first two games in charge against West Ham and Everton.
Despite that poor start, the new Villa boss is refusing to hit the panic button and after signing Ron Vlaar and midfield player Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord and Matt Lowton from Sheffield United already, the Benteke deal confirms he is being given healthy financial support from Villa chairman Randy Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner
"There's not a magic wand in this job, but we have got to win games and if we don't do that then clearly it becomes a problem," Lambert said. "We will not have a quick fix, but it's something where you don't want to be left behind. However, I have to say the chairman and Paul (Faulkner) have been great in their support."
Next on Villa's shopping list is a new left back and Ipswich's Aaron Cresswell is on Lambert's radar, with Stephen Warnock's future at the club increasingly uncertain. "There are few [left backs] out there I'd be interested in," Lambert told ESPN. "I can't talk about anyone else's players but there's a few. Cresswell? He's one of about 54 I'm looking at."
The Benteke deal will take chairman Lerner's investment in Villa to well over £250m since his arrival at the club in 2006 and despite negative publicity in some sections of the media of late, this latest addition is evidence of the American owner's continued commitment to the midlands club.
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 28, 2012, 04:59:44 AM
Looks like Lambert wasn't that interested after allBid rejected. Villa in a mess.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901)
Benteke, 21, has been linked with a move to Fulham in recent weeks, but a £4 million offer from Villa looks set to clinch his signature and the Belgium international will be charged with forming a potent scoring partnership with Darren Bent.
The forward fired 16 goals for Genk last season and has already been on target in the opening few weeks of this new campaign, with his arrival at Villa Park set to be a huge boost to Lambert after a difficult start to his reign has seen him lose his first two games in charge against West Ham and Everton.
Despite that poor start, the new Villa boss is refusing to hit the panic button and after signing Ron Vlaar and midfield player Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord and Matt Lowton from Sheffield United already, the Benteke deal confirms he is being given healthy financial support from Villa chairman Randy Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner
"There's not a magic wand in this job, but we have got to win games and if we don't do that then clearly it becomes a problem," Lambert said. "We will not have a quick fix, but it's something where you don't want to be left behind. However, I have to say the chairman and Paul (Faulkner) have been great in their support."
Next on Villa's shopping list is a new left back and Ipswich's Aaron Cresswell is on Lambert's radar, with Stephen Warnock's future at the club increasingly uncertain. "There are few [left backs] out there I'd be interested in," Lambert told ESPN. "I can't talk about anyone else's players but there's a few. Cresswell? He's one of about 54 I'm looking at."
The Benteke deal will take chairman Lerner's investment in Villa to well over £250m since his arrival at the club in 2006 and despite negative publicity in some sections of the media of late, this latest addition is evidence of the American owner's continued commitment to the midlands club.
Post by: de_redman on August 28, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 28, 2012, 01:59:02 PM
Jones is starting for Stoke in the Capital One Cup vs Swindon which is about to get on the way...Getting mash up by a League 1 team. Good!
I wish Kenwyne could get outta there, so I could happily watch dem get relegated.
Post by: JRtheWriter on August 28, 2012, 02:08:10 PM
Looks like Lambert wasn't that interested after allBid rejected. Villa in a mess.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901)
Benteke, 21, has been linked with a move to Fulham in recent weeks, but a £4 million offer from Villa looks set to clinch his signature and the Belgium international will be charged with forming a potent scoring partnership with Darren Bent.
The forward fired 16 goals for Genk last season and has already been on target in the opening few weeks of this new campaign, with his arrival at Villa Park set to be a huge boost to Lambert after a difficult start to his reign has seen him lose his first two games in charge against West Ham and Everton.
Despite that poor start, the new Villa boss is refusing to hit the panic button and after signing Ron Vlaar and midfield player Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord and Matt Lowton from Sheffield United already, the Benteke deal confirms he is being given healthy financial support from Villa chairman Randy Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner
"There's not a magic wand in this job, but we have got to win games and if we don't do that then clearly it becomes a problem," Lambert said. "We will not have a quick fix, but it's something where you don't want to be left behind. However, I have to say the chairman and Paul (Faulkner) have been great in their support."
Next on Villa's shopping list is a new left back and Ipswich's Aaron Cresswell is on Lambert's radar, with Stephen Warnock's future at the club increasingly uncertain. "There are few [left backs] out there I'd be interested in," Lambert told ESPN. "I can't talk about anyone else's players but there's a few. Cresswell? He's one of about 54 I'm looking at."
The Benteke deal will take chairman Lerner's investment in Villa to well over £250m since his arrival at the club in 2006 and despite negative publicity in some sections of the media of late, this latest addition is evidence of the American owner's continued commitment to the midlands club.
Wait, Benteke said no?! Wow...
Post by: FireBrand on August 28, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 28, 2012, 02:15:07 PM
Well, his club said no: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144883/agent-says-genk-rejects-aston-villa's-bid-for-christian-benteke?cc=5901Looks like Lambert wasn't that interested after allBid rejected. Villa in a mess.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1144415/aston-villa-to-bolster-with-striker-christian-benteke?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901)
Benteke, 21, has been linked with a move to Fulham in recent weeks, but a £4 million offer from Villa looks set to clinch his signature and the Belgium international will be charged with forming a potent scoring partnership with Darren Bent.
The forward fired 16 goals for Genk last season and has already been on target in the opening few weeks of this new campaign, with his arrival at Villa Park set to be a huge boost to Lambert after a difficult start to his reign has seen him lose his first two games in charge against West Ham and Everton.
Despite that poor start, the new Villa boss is refusing to hit the panic button and after signing Ron Vlaar and midfield player Karim El Ahmadi from Feyenoord and Matt Lowton from Sheffield United already, the Benteke deal confirms he is being given healthy financial support from Villa chairman Randy Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner
"There's not a magic wand in this job, but we have got to win games and if we don't do that then clearly it becomes a problem," Lambert said. "We will not have a quick fix, but it's something where you don't want to be left behind. However, I have to say the chairman and Paul (Faulkner) have been great in their support."
Next on Villa's shopping list is a new left back and Ipswich's Aaron Cresswell is on Lambert's radar, with Stephen Warnock's future at the club increasingly uncertain. "There are few [left backs] out there I'd be interested in," Lambert told ESPN. "I can't talk about anyone else's players but there's a few. Cresswell? He's one of about 54 I'm looking at."
The Benteke deal will take chairman Lerner's investment in Villa to well over £250m since his arrival at the club in 2006 and despite negative publicity in some sections of the media of late, this latest addition is evidence of the American owner's continued commitment to the midlands club.
Wait, Benteke said no?! Wow...
Post by: fitzinho on August 30, 2012, 08:57:45 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146258/stoke-make-approach-for-liverpool's-charlie-adam?cc=5901
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 31, 2012, 08:02:09 AM
Post by: congo on August 31, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Post by: kev on September 01, 2012, 12:11:51 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 01, 2012, 05:36:31 AM
He was linked with a lot of different type clubs this windows, seems to suggest either Kenwyne's agent or Stoke trying to flush someone out to buy him. He needed to move really, Pulis isn't one for admitting mistakes and is stubborn as hell.His mistake was Crouch.
Ten million pounds unnecessarily spent on a 'better' striker who scored a total of 1 more goal than Kenwyne the season before. Crouch isn't getting the job done, but Kenwyne and Jerome and (last season) Fuller barely get a sniff. Why can't they get an extended run of games to misfire and fail like Crouch?
Because his name is Crouch, he cost 10 million pounds and will never be dropped for performance. His pick is guaranteed based on reputation alone.
Post by: Bakes on September 01, 2012, 01:11:19 PM
His mistake was Crouch.
Ten million pounds unnecessarily spent on a 'better' striker who scored a total of 1 more goal than Kenwyne the season before. Crouch isn't getting the job done, but Kenwyne and Jerome and (last season) Fuller barely get a sniff. Why can't they get an extended run of games to misfire and fail like Crouch?
Because his name is Crouch, he cost 10 million pounds and will never be dropped for performance. His pick is guaranteed based on reputation alone.
That shithound Crouch is such a waste...
Post by: boss on September 04, 2012, 11:29:14 AM
Post by: D.H.W on September 04, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
Post by: just cool on September 04, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
Jones? Even Owen getting a blighJones did it to himself! he tort he was ah super star bc his name was callin and he was being compared to grogba. after that he became swell headed and started to act like he reach, not playing with intensity and half steppin and lazing around on the pitch.
now he seeing the reality of professional sports, yuh don't perform them someone else will take yuh place, he lucky he didn't find himself in league one, let him just ask marlon hearwood and carlton cole, to stay in the prem yuh must perform like ah mad horse or is bench and and eventually lower leagues for yuh.
let him take stick bc i eh sorry for him, you eh see no teams eh come rushing for him no mo, de boy facked up and lower his stocks considerably. if he did play his cards right and act like he was on a mission, he would @ least been on a top 6 team, either spurs or arsenal by now.
PS: wehs dat..........he was having marital problems? so does every fackin pro sportsman, now lemme see if that biatch go give him playing time now. stupid!
Post by: de_redman on September 15, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 08:43:25 AM
Post by: Bitter on September 15, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
Jones in the dog house
The dog house? He not even in the yard tied to a tree.
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 08:47:02 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 08:59:56 AM
Jones in the dog house
Jones in the outhouse as in outta here! I wonder if he even talk tuh dem about their plans for him this year? If they did or didn't he needed tuh read the tea leaves and buss it versus sitting on the bench wasting away!
Post by: D.H.W on September 15, 2012, 09:08:10 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 09:15:05 AM
Nobody wants to buy him? Why is he still at Stoke.? If he not playing it hurts his chances getting a good club. But he put that on himself with his lazy style of play.
Ah hope he has been saving his money, because this is his last big pay day. He will end up back in Championship football, which is a shame because he did the hard work to get himself in great place for a person of his skill level and ability.
Post by: Bakes on September 15, 2012, 09:57:51 AM
Post by: ckhan on September 15, 2012, 10:06:20 AM
Read a couple of Championship teams are interested: Pulis is waiting for the right bid.
Post by: giggsy11 on September 15, 2012, 10:15:43 AM
Last spotted in the players lounge...he, Pennant and Shotton.
Read a couple of Championship teams are interested: Pulis is waiting for the right bid.
Well he did like tuh lounge on the field! ;D
Post by: ckhan on September 15, 2012, 10:40:09 AM
Last spotted in the players lounge...he, Pennant and Shotton.
Read a couple of Championship teams are interested: Pulis is waiting for the right bid.
Well he did like tuh lounge on the field! ;D
Good one.
Post by: Small Change on September 16, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
Post by: lil damo on September 16, 2012, 11:54:32 AM
I think another Prem team might take a chance on him if he takes a pay cut. Otherwise a move outside of England might be in his forecast because to end up in the Championship would be humiliating after being the poster boy of the last 2 clubs he was at. That would be a huge drop for him.
I am a big Aston Villa fan and was hoping they took him to play with Bent. That would have been a nice move for him. No chance of that now though.
Post by: Bakes on September 16, 2012, 02:47:41 PM
Post by: maxg on September 16, 2012, 05:26:23 PM
Jones on the other hand, will always have MY support, no matter how much he play.. If some ppl think he is/was spoilt, is not we who did that... Look what happen to we greatest players ever.. Cast aside by many teams, so why Jones different, unless ppl really expected more from him , than Dwight, and Stern.. Latas didn't even get a EPL run out, is it cause he wasn't good ?
Trinis does sometimes expect a lot from our compatriots, possibly why we does manage to achieve so much.. Sometimes I wonder if we just spoil too...
Bigger players saw fit to move leagues or clubs, but if Jones has to, make him "not good" ?
Me doh think so nah
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 17, 2012, 10:46:22 AM
Don't think ah could ever like Crouch, no matter how much play he play, or goals he score.. The man do meh in
Jones on the other hand, will always have MY support, no matter how much he play.. If some ppl think he is/was spoilt, is not we who did that... Look what happen to we greatest players ever.. Cast aside by many teams, so why Jones different, unless ppl really expected more from him , than Dwight, and Stern.. Latas didn't even get a EPL run out, is it cause he wasn't good ?
Trinis does sometimes expect a lot from our compatriots, possibly why we does manage to achieve so much.. Sometimes I wonder if we just spoil too...
Bigger players saw fit to move leagues or clubs, but if Jones has to, make him "not good" ?
Me doh think so nah
Apparently you eh get de memo dat he is ah rank shithong an shoulda neva even be dey to begin wid :o
Post by: g on September 17, 2012, 02:01:51 PM
I remember Leo Beenhakker did an interview when he gave an individual player assessment of the WC squad. He said Kenwyne doesn't even know how good he is. A naturally gifted athlete who could play anywhere once he's ready to play.
I think when you compare him to a Dwight Yorke for example it's all about potential realization. I would put Kenwyne at about 60% potential realization compared to a 90% for a Dwight Yorke. To maximize your potential it takes drive, hunger and discipline to attain and then maintain and complacency allows you to fall off.
The difference is that Yorke fell off after 5 trophies at Man U while Kenwyne appears to be falling off after 60k pounds a week at a labouring mid table club. I am not even sure that Dwight was ever paid more than 30k pounds a week while at Man U.
Kenwyne is turning 28 this year and he is in the middle of his 4 year deal. He will collectively earn approx 11.5 million pounds before tax if he sees out this current contract. Some of you will look at his inability to get a game in a vacuum, we want him to do well because he's from us and we want our players to play and look good. And we ready to give him a verbal buss head cause we arent satisfied with his peformance as we are all entitled to do in this public space.
I dont know what drives the man personally, maybe he doesnt mind to sit on the bench (and now in the stands) every week and collect his cheque, I am sure that his money people will ensure that if he moves away from Stoke either by loan or by sale that he will continue to earn up to the value of his present deal. I dont know what his financial committments are, In my opinion if he wanted to move on based purely on football reasons there are many a club that will take a chance on him so to me it cannot be that.
Again i think we all see the potential and it sours us to see where he is at, but there is life and there is football and more importantly there is life after football. One could argue that he may never be the legend of anything which really can earn you top dollar after playing days and it may be safer to ensure you earn what can now rather than hope what you might.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 17, 2012, 02:18:24 PM
I wouldnt go so far as to call him a rank shithong or anything like that
I remember Leo Beenhakker did an interview when he gave an individual player assessment of the WC squad. He said Kenwyne doesn't even know how good he is. A naturally gifted athlete who could play anywhere once he's ready to play.
I think when you compare him to a Dwight Yorke for example it's all about potential realization. I would put Kenwyen at about 60% potential realization compared to a 90% for a Dwight Yorke. To maximize your potential it takes drive, hunger and discipline to attain and then maintain and complacency allows you to fall off.
The difference is that Yorke fell off after 5 trophies at Man U while Kenwyne appears to be falling off after 60k pounds a week at a labouring mid table club. I am not even sure that Dwight was ever paid more than 30k pounds a week while at Man U.
Kenwyne is turning 28 this year and he is in the middle of his 4 year deal. He will collectively earn approx 11.5 million pounds before tax if he sees out this current contract. Some of you will look at his inability to get a game in a vacuum, we want him to do well because he's from us and we want our players to play and look good. And we ready to give him a verbal buss head cause we arent satisfied with his peformance as we are all entitled to do in this public space.
I dont know what drives the man personally, maybe he doesnt mind to sit on the bench (and now in the stands) every week and collect his cheque, I am sure that his money people will ensure that if he moves away from Stoke either by loan or by sale that he will continue to earn up to the value of his present deal. I dont know what his financial committments are, In my opinion if he wanted to move on based purely on football reasons there are many a club that will take a chance on him so to me it cannot be that.
Again i think we all see the potential and it sours us to see where he is at, but there is life and there is football and more importantly there is life after football. One could argue that he may never be the legend of anything which really can earn you top dollar after playing days and it may be safer to ensure you earn what can now rather than hope what you might.
Sarcasm fella lol
Post by: just cool on September 17, 2012, 06:56:09 PM
PPL we acting like we don't know our citizens, a trini is one of the most complaisant man on the planet, our biggest down fall is the "i reach syndrome" i bigger than God now, i am above a talking to.
i remember when KJ was fresh on the scene, and i saw him in the Wc qualifiers, i asked my self, "who is this hungry yute?" the man ran after every ball, was involved in every play, he was all over the place, even questioning the refs, that's how hungry and aggressive the bredder was, now that he's been there and done it, the bredder craw full, he couldn't handle another bite.
another thing i get from KJ is that he was frustrated with the style of play @ sunderland and stoke and started to lose interest, but what's worrying me is that if KJ had stuck to his guns and played one great season he would have been traded to a better team that played more constructive football. just look @ dempsey and van persie, one great season was all it took.
ppl had enough of the lazy shit, he deserves every minute of what he's getting! though luck dey, but i don't feel sorry for him.
Post by: Big Magician on September 17, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: davidephraim on September 17, 2012, 07:20:25 PM
I recall Stoke had a really good year (the year before this one) Stoke was really a mid table club then and all the forwards were scoring;including KJ.
Why did Pulis change that and do something different? I get that KJ wasn't scoring last year but to me it seemed to take place after the paradigm shifted and Pulis had different plans.
Truth be told, I believe is Pulis who F0$^k up dat team and he wasn't man enough to admit it or to turn back. KJ was a support not only to himself but to the entire team (be it within the style they played).
Crouch never lived up to KJ 2010 year and not enough credit goes to KJ for being the driving force behind that year. Every ball won, every knock down; it was all KJ back then.
Was it competition dat buss he throat... possibly, but Once Crouch came in the English man ting kick -in and KJ was out of love. His European form was still holding but even that eventually dwindled. So is de man craw full? Possibly but I detect that some Love and dependence at a different prem club could be enough to get KJ going again. He is not a rank shit hong.
My Opinion!
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 17, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
If was Cornell Glen get a bligh in the Prem and going through the same thing, man song would be very different on here.
Man top-scoring for Prem teams, doing he work and man on here want to talk bout who is and isn't shit-hound.
If only he coulda beats...
Post by: D.H.W on September 17, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
Post by: ckhan on September 17, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674)
Post by: davidephraim on September 17, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
Championship spell?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674)
Now what? This is a slippery slope and I am intrigued to hear what direction de massive will take on this. Personally, I cant give an opinion yet. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't! Please, a prem club, come in for loan for KJ. Hope Pulis aint dirty and refuse to loan to prem club.
Post by: Bourbon on September 18, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
Post by: just cool on September 18, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
Dem english prem managers real dirty bro, what you talking bout? like you eh see what mancini did to adebaoyor, and what harry did to bent, is ah good thing morinho came callin for adebayor and he regain his form @ real madrid. i believe KJ should refuse to go to the championship and hold out till the january window and loan out then to a prem team.Championship spell?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674)
Now what? This is a slippery slope and I am intrigued to hear what direction de massive will take on this. Personally, I cant give an opinion yet. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't! Please, a prem club, come in for loan for KJ. Hope Pulis aint dirty and refuse to loan to prem club.
imagine the man get blank for two washed up old english players in crouch and owen, what ah fackin ting eh. serves him right though! he played de c**t and got f**ked. this would teach him to work harder and stop acting like yuh reach.
Post by: davidephraim on September 18, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
Dem english prem managers real dirty bro, what you talking bout? like you eh see what mancini did to adebaoyor, and what harry did to bent, is ah good thing marino came callin for adebayor and he regain his form @ real madrid. i believe KJ should refuse to go to the championship and hold out till the january window and loan out then to a prem team.Championship spell?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674)
Now what? This is a slippery slope and I am intrigued to hear what direction de massive will take on this. Personally, I cant give an opinion yet. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't! Please, a prem club, come in for loan for KJ. Hope Pulis aint dirty and refuse to loan to prem club.
imagine the man get blank for two washed up old english players in crouch and owen, what ah fackin ting eh. serves him right though! he played de c**t and got f**ked. this would teach him to work harder and stop acting like yuh reach.
Ah feel dis is de direction ah leaning in as well. Ah gettin flashbacks of Scotland & Stern John, . If KJ choose dat championship football, he could possibly never get out of dey? Is there life after leaving prem and choosing to go championship?
Post by: just cool on September 18, 2012, 07:49:02 AM
Just ask jason roberts and carlton cole, oh yeh, dwight york too.Dem english prem managers real dirty bro, what you talking bout? like you eh see what mancini did to adebaoyor, and what harry did to bent, is ah good thing morinho came callin for adebayor and he regain his form @ real madrid. i believe KJ should refuse to go to the championship and hold out till the january window and loan out then to a prem team.Championship spell?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfer-news-kenwyne-jones-1328674)
Now what? This is a slippery slope and I am intrigued to hear what direction de massive will take on this. Personally, I cant give an opinion yet. It's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't! Please, a prem club, come in for loan for KJ. Hope Pulis aint dirty and refuse to loan to prem club.
imagine the man get blank for two washed up old english players in crouch and owen, what ah fackin ting eh. serves him right though! he played de c**t and got f**ked. this would teach him to work harder and stop acting like yuh reach.
Ah feel dis is de direction ah leaning in as well. Ah gettin flashbacks of Scotland & Stern John, . If KJ choose dat championship football, he could possibly never get out of dey? Is there life after leaving prem and choosing to go championship?
Post by: KND2 on September 18, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
Stoke playes target man football, right now crouch is the number 1 target man, if he gets injured then KJ will come in plain and simple.
Have some patience and wait.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 18, 2012, 08:33:35 AM
Dinner Mints jess in case yuh had me in mind wit da tawk, kno dat I is one of KJs biggest supporters on here so I was purely using prior sentiments expressed by many here in a sarcastic fashion.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 18, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
Dinner Mints jess in case yuh had me in mind wit da tawk, kno dat I is one of KJs biggest supporters on here so I was purely using prior sentiments expressed by many here in a sarcastic fashion.Nah, wasn't you I talking bout. I know your thoughts regarding KJ.
As for the black man thing at Stoke, I kinda checking that out too. Not saying it deliberate or racist (They have/had other decent continental European players who cyah get a chance either). But I have a feeling a certain 'type' doh get much love at hustle and bustle Stoke.
Post by: JRtheWriter on September 22, 2012, 09:28:56 AM
Post by: Peong on September 22, 2012, 09:34:07 AM
Post by: de_redman on September 22, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 10:27:47 AM
Best he stayed on the bench. For a game that was so intense in the end it was sickening to watch Jones walk around the pitch :pissedoff: .You son, have no idea ... ::)
Btw, this isn't kenywyne jones http://andrewshurtleff.photoshelter.com/image/I0000lZY2bzNGczc
Post by: D.H.W on September 22, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
Best he stayed on the bench. For a game that was so intense in the end it was sickening to watch Jones walk around the pitch :pissedoff: .
Typical, don't know how men does defend he.
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 10:44:55 AM
Best he stayed on the bench. For a game that was so intense in the end it was sickening to watch Jones walk around the pitch :pissedoff: .
Harsh... didn't seem to get up to game speed, but hardly seemed for lack of effort. Then again, Etherington came in and assimilated himself seemingly with ease. Jones' failure to win the ball into the box against Silva lead to the Chelsea break... and goal. Silva had him in he back pocket whole time he was on the pitch.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 22, 2012, 10:50:03 AM
Post by: ckhan on September 22, 2012, 10:59:18 AM
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
Post by: Blue on September 22, 2012, 11:19:57 AM
Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.
I was at the game...I thought he was excellent. So did Chelsea apparently, he was the reason we had to finish the game with 3 central defenders.
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 11:22:29 AM
Actually, it was Owen's fault to not cover Walters that lead to the counter attack and Chelsea to score. Jones came on and for the first 7 minutes and he had a header on goal, set up Ethers for a shot and had Luiz under some trouble. After that, I sum it up to lack of match fitness, although knowing how Stoke play he should find himself in the box and head at wind...
The man play 15 minutes of casual jogging back and forth in midfield and he bun?
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 11:26:56 AM
Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.
I was at the game...I thought he was excellent. So did Chelsea apparently, he was the reason we had to finish the game with 3 central defenders.
Stop joking nah man, it was only 3 against a trini..1/2 was handling he, the other 2 1/2 must be was for Owen, ent? :D
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 11:33:32 AM
Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
How many Pro League games you attended last season? Do you offer your thoughts on football in TT?
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
none & hardly ever. I try not to comment on stuff I know little of, but I know a lot more of my people, than football in TT. ;)Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
How many Pro League games you attended last season? Do you offer your thoughts on football in TT?
Post by: ckhan on September 22, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
Actually, it was Owen's fault to not cover Walters that lead to the counter attack and Chelsea to score. Jones came on and for the first 7 minutes and he had a header on goal, set up Ethers for a shot and had Luiz under some trouble. After that, I sum it up to lack of match fitness, although knowing how Stoke play he should find himself in the box and head at wind...
The man play 15 minutes of casual jogging back and forth in midfield and he bun?
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt...not being critical
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
none & hardly ever. I try not to comment on stuff I know little of, but I know a lot more of my people, than football in TT. ;)
As long as you acknowledge that your comment applies to yourself as well...
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt...not being critical
If you think that is giving him the benefit of the doubt... well, what ah go tell yuh.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 12:13:26 PM
Eh eh..in case u missed it.. My comment was an effort to indicate that many TT ppl comments an talks about everything, because they can, not necessarily because they are knowledgable about the subject..it's part of our culture....in addition, and to finalize, I or anyone else not saying KJ had an amazing game or played great, but to say he did nothing an just walk round the place is just not true.. He was as average as the Stoke TEAM was...none & hardly ever. I try not to comment on stuff I know little of, but I know a lot more of my people, than football in TT. ;)
As long as you acknowledge that your comment applies to yourself as well...
What I also do know is football, and my only criticism of Jones would be, somebody has to teach him, cause he can't seem to learn himself, when there is 2 or more Central defenders, don't make runs that would put you in the middle of said defenders, especially with a team strategy as Stoke's..
Btw, if I was in TT, I would have been at all the games, though more than likely, I would have been coaching or involved with some club in some capacity..PFL or otherwise...Beleive or not, I did a degree in football, although I don't work in it...unfortunately, most of my studies did not cover our football...anyway back on subject -stoke forever - how did the Team play..not considering the very late subs...
add: I mean, I saw game, just want to see if I misread anything.
Post by: JRtheWriter on September 22, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 02:45:38 PM
Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
was intended to convey this...
Eh eh..in case u missed it.. My comment was an effort to indicate that many TT ppl comments an talks about everything, because they can, not necessarily because they are knowledgable about the subject..it's part of our culture....in addition, and to finalize, I or anyone else not saying KJ had an amazing game or played great, but to say he did nothing an just walk round the place is just not true.. He was as average as the Stoke TEAM was...
What I also do know is football, and my only criticism of Jones would be, somebody has to teach him, cause he can't seem to learn himself, when there is 2 or more Central defenders, don't make runs that would put you in the middle of said defenders, especially with a team strategy as Stoke's..
Btw, if I was in TT, I would have been at all the games, though more than likely, I would have been coaching or involved with some club in some capacity..PFL or otherwise...Beleive or not, I did a degree in football, although I don't work in it...unfortunately, most of my studies did not cover our football...anyway back on subject -stoke forever - how did the Team play..not considering the very late subs...
add: I mean, I saw game, just want to see if I misread anything.
...then you failed miserably.
As for how Stoke played... typical Stoke on their best day. Nothing up front but for set piece and long ball threats, indicated by Walters' header off the bar in the 19'. Very little by way of possession football, invisible in the middle, save for their DMs. Excelent at the back. They stymied Chelsea without having to park the bus, and to Pulis' credit they tried to go for the win rather than playing for a point. I would have even said that Chelsea were lucky and flattered by the win. In addition to Oscar and and Luiz, Ivanovic should have been carded for his blatant dive early... and Luiz really should have been red-carded for his cynical challenge on Walters that nearly sparked a melee.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 03:48:47 PM
But it really this,
Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
And this
"many TT ppl comments an talks about everything, because they can, not necessarily because they are knowledgable about the subject..it's part of our culture...."
The other stuff was - in addition
Post by: Blue on September 22, 2012, 04:13:29 PM
I would have even said that Chelsea were lucky and flattered by the win.I agree with most of what you said, but to say we were flattered by the win is a bit much. Stoke are a tough side to break down, which is why they were unbeaten coming into the game. We dominated possession and spent most of the match in their final third. I thought we were actually pretty good around the box today but once again Torres was useless - still reluctant to shoot or to fill the positions that a centre forward should (why on earth was Ashley Cole the one scoring that goal and not Torres?). Stoke were playing in their usual Stokey manner and did a good job of it. True they had some good chances against the run of play but 1-0 was a fair reflection of the game, even if it wasn't the result the neutrals would have wanted.
Post by: maxg on September 22, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 05:19:42 PM
I would have even said that Chelsea were lucky and flattered by the win.I agree with most of what you said, but to say we were flattered by the win is a bit much. Stoke are a tough side to break down, which is why they were unbeaten coming into the game. We dominated possession and spent most of the match in their final third. I thought we were actually pretty good around the box today but once again Torres was useless - still reluctant to shoot or to fill the positions that a centre forward should (why on earth was Ashley Cole the one scoring that goal and not Torres?). Stoke were playing in their usual Stokey manner and did a good job of it. True they had some good chances against the run of play but 1-0 was a fair reflection of the game, even if it wasn't the result the neutrals would have wanted.
Forget about 'the results the neutrals would have wanted'... Chelsea outshot Stoke 19-13, putting 4 on target compared to Stokes 3. Chelsea also had a 60% to 40% edge in possession. They were better, but hardly dominating. Early card on Ivanovic could have changed his defensive approach for the final 80 minutes. Had they rightly been sent down a man with a couple minutes left, not much time to do anything, but you never know. As for the goal, nice flick by Mata... still had an element of luck to it, replays showed that he never really looked up, just put it into a dangerous position. Had Cole not made that run it would have been wasted as no one else was looking for it.
Agree on all points...
But it really this,Funny enough the Stoke fans are quite pleased with his performance.Good indication why there is 350 ppl at pro league games, yet 500,000 could tell yuh bout football in TT. Such is the way of TT "fan"
And this
"many TT ppl comments an talks about everything, because they can, not necessarily because they are knowledgable about the subject..it's part of our culture...."
The other stuff was - in addition
I hear you Maxg
Post by: lefty on September 22, 2012, 06:26:05 PM
Post by: davidephraim on September 22, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
why dont they give sturridge a start up top, torres clearly still ent ready, RDM like rotatin .....den rotate torres arse out lil bit
I don't know what Chelsea's problem is with Sturridge. He wasn't even on the bench today an it good that Chelsea was found wanting for the second time that Sturridge could have come in and make penetrating runs into the box. In the CL game, at around 78 minutes, they was needing sturridge real bad and instead went with Mata who is no sturridge.
As for KJ, I feel nothing KJ does would be good enough for some. I so hope someone come in for KJ so he could get to hell out of there but having said that, I believe He may have seen a glimmer of hope today.
There might be life in this team for him. My personal opinion is that he will be more advantageous to that team, especially with M. Owen and Walters playin alongside him than Crouch. couple games under his belt and the faith and trust of the Gaffer and a KJ revival is on the horizon.
So like Ryan said, I thought KJ did excellent today and would give him a 83% mark for his contribution.
It doesnt get him into Harvard but he still gettin into the Ivy League with dem marks.
I also agree that if Moses had started, they may have had a different result earlier!
Post by: Bakes on September 22, 2012, 10:06:45 PM
Post by: davidephraim on September 22, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
Isn't Sturridge still hurt? Also have to agree that Moses was the real difference-maker for Chelsea today... but can't say for sure he would have had the same impact from the start, versus coming on against a tiring Stoke defense. Maybe he would have maybe not.
wasn't aware Sturr was injured and I get your point about the tiring defense. In torres's defence, he wok real hard between Stoke's giant defenders! Don't know if Moses could have pulled that off from de whistle.
Post by: g on September 23, 2012, 05:24:51 AM
Must really be a guava season for TT football yes
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 05:31:25 AM
Post by: maxg on September 23, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
Post by: Peong on September 23, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
I've never seen a 15 minute substitiute appearance scrutinized as much on this forum ever.
Must really be a guava season for TT football yes
Hahah yeah man we fightin for whatever scraps we get.
Post by: andre samuel on September 23, 2012, 10:32:37 PM
I've never seen a 15 minute substitiute appearance scrutinized as much on this forum ever.
Must really be a guava season for TT football yes
It looking like men do ah 150 page thesis based on Jones 15min performance, lol
Post by: maxg on September 29, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
Season young , ask for it man.
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
Crouch, for real boy. Voleur extraordinaire , a realpussycat burgler. Yuh cyah see it , but somehow he finds a way and does. Nuff respect for this guy....I will forever not like him, but nuff respect for his by any means necessary method of scoring...is it to late to train KJ for a wing midfield ? The position I thought he was best suited for from day 1 with Southampton..
Season young , ask for it man.
Crouch is ah shithong... can't even carry Kenwyne's jockstrap... if only they'd give poor KJ a chance.
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 29, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
To be fair, there were long stretches of last season where Crouch was indeed shit. Stoke scored the least number of goals last season in ALL levels of English football. I think Crouch isn't a shithound, but his improved results this season come from playing in front of an improved midfield. I'd venture that, given a run of games, KJ's output would improve as well.Crouch, for real boy. Voleur extraordinaire , a realpussycat burgler. Yuh cyah see it , but somehow he finds a way and does. Nuff respect for this guy....I will forever not like him, but nuff respect for his by any means necessary method of scoring...is it to late to train KJ for a wing midfield ? The position I thought he was best suited for from day 1 with Southampton..
Season young , ask for it man.
Crouch is ah shithong... can't even carry Kenwyne's jockstrap... if only they'd give poor KJ a chance.
Also Crouch pull a next man long hair today again. So there's that.
Post by: Bakes on September 29, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
Post by: maxg on September 29, 2012, 07:11:06 PM
Well that settles it then... Kenwyne need to start pulling man hair.oh gorm Bakes...yuh not tinkin Pulis does run a hair pulling practice drill for Crouch, with KJ as the victim ? ah doh trust them yuh know :devil: ;D
Post by: maxg on October 20, 2012, 08:24:54 AM
Post by: Blue on October 20, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
Post by: just cool on October 20, 2012, 05:44:15 PM
Has Kenwyne said why he boycotted the Kick It Out vests today?Yes, him rio ferdinand and jason roberts. saw it BBC news. their reason for doing so is bc the FA is not doing enough to stamp out racism and it's more lip service and less action.
Post by: de_redman on October 24, 2012, 10:22:49 AM
Sky Sports understands a number of Championship clubs have made moves for Stoke striker Cameron Jerome.
Stoke boss Tony Pulis has only this week ruled out a possible loan switch for Kenwyne Jones but now it seems that his team-mate Jerome could be set to depart the Britannia Stadium.
Jerome, who joined Stoke for £4millon from Birmingham City last year, has yet to start a league match this season.
Now Sky Sports understands a host of clubs from the Championship are battling to land his signature.
The chances of Jerome's possible move have been enhanced as Pulis confirmed Jones would not be leaving.
"Kenwyne will not be going anywhere," he told the Sentinel.
"I haven't seen any other Premier League clubs selling players. There's been lots of enquiries about lots of players, but at the moment we want to look after ourselves.
"We had 25 in our Premier League squad and then let Jermaine Pennant go on loan to Wolves, so we don't want to be letting others go and then picking up three or four injuries."
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Post by: just cool on October 24, 2012, 04:42:53 PM
Post by: trini_stallion on October 25, 2012, 03:27:06 AM
Kenwyne needs tuh get the fack out of stoke, this man pulis has no plans to use him @ all, he's just there for back up in case of an injury to his golden boy crouch or walters. jones must show some heart and leave in the january transfer if he ever wants to ever play first team football again!
100% agreeed...i think pulis is jones #1 obstacle in terms of furthering career...
Post by: de_redman on November 24, 2012, 10:43:27 AM
Post by: rotatopoti3 on November 24, 2012, 11:01:10 AM
Post by: giggsy11 on November 24, 2012, 11:07:21 AM
Kenwyne needs tuh get the fack out of stoke, this man pulis has no plans to use him @ all, he's just there for back up in case of an injury to his golden boy crouch or walters. jones must show some heart and leave in the january transfer if he ever wants to ever play first team football again!
100% agreeed...i think pulis is jones #1 obstacle in terms of furthering career...
No, Jones is his #1 obstacle in furthering his career by not building/improving his skills. He made it real easy for Pulis tuh park him on the bench and have dey as back up. If he doesn't change some things he will become a journey man in some journey man league.
Post by: congo on November 24, 2012, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: g on November 24, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
to play about 15 minutes a week. That is about 4,000 pounds a minute.
Jones is the most expensive striker in the world. ;D
Post by: D.H.W on November 24, 2012, 01:12:45 PM
Post by: FF on November 24, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Would love to get paid that kinda money to shine bench
Went and see him shine bench last week monday at west ham.
He warm up halftime and was raising nice. Maybe even break a semi moist sweat
Post by: de_redman on December 08, 2012, 08:29:16 AM
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 08, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
D man getting 60,000 pounds a week
to play about 15 minutes a week. That is about 4,000 pounds a minute.
Jones is the most expensive striker in the world. ;D
Though is not all about $$, damn, that sure helps
Post by: maxg on December 08, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
last week Lilman swim a 100 Metre time trial...didn't beat his best time, but was close..ppl diggin how he wasn't happy, saying he still top 5, so what he so upset over...but everybody don't see is since his last race, 1 month ago...he trained hell hard...covering 80,000 Metres in that time ...and still didn't get any improvement, or make any headway...oh, and he ain't get a cent...then it will have some ppl saying "he just not good enuff"...cause they see him cover the last 100 m...ah wonder if this applies to other sports hmmmmnnn :DD man getting 60,000 pounds a week
to play about 15 minutes a week. That is about 4,000 pounds a minute.
Jones is the most expensive striker in the world. ;D
Though is not all about $$, damn, that sure helps
Post by: de_redman on December 15, 2012, 09:35:21 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 15, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
Third straight start for KJ vs Everton. Crouch must be grinding on the bench. Time to put one away KJ and lock up that spot :praying:He kick one to the moon arready. Wasn't the easiest of chances but he coulda try to keep it at sea level.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 15, 2012, 10:10:24 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 15, 2012, 10:12:25 AM
Post by: D.H.W on December 15, 2012, 10:13:45 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 15, 2012, 10:16:34 AM
Post by: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:24:52 AM
Post by: chelsealife on December 15, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
oh lawd. customs seize the atdhe site and redirct you to a guilt trip youtube :D anybody have the new links?where are u looking? lol, this link works http://88.80.11.29/57128/watch-stoke-vs-everton
Post by: madness1969 on December 16, 2012, 01:37:17 PM
Post by: kev on December 16, 2012, 02:33:16 PM
oh lawd. customs seize the atdhe site and redirct you to a guilt trip youtube :D anybody have the new links?
Try these
http://cricfree.tv/live/index.php
http://www.vipbox.tv/sports/football.html
http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline=football
Adverts come up when opened, either 15 or 20 secs there is a countdown. However the stupid ILivid ones on the right hand side need closing before you start watching really. Just refresh the page and hit the red x on the right side before advert covers it.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 22, 2012, 09:21:14 AM
Post by: maxg on December 22, 2012, 01:29:26 PM
Another start. Another big miss. Other than that, he playing real good.Yeah, if he had scored that, 45 secs in, he woulda be starting the next few games for sure...now is still anybody position, and yuh dun kno who (can't call his Name) have 1st choice
Post by: de_redman on December 26, 2012, 01:17:19 PM
Post by: davyjenny1 on December 26, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 01:42:54 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 01:58:10 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 01:58:53 PM
Post by: soccerman on December 26, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 26, 2012, 02:42:34 PM
And he set up de 1st one too wid ah flick on headerWell... he flick it on to de defender head, who then flick it on. But we'll take it.
Post by: soccerman on December 26, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
Yes I jus notice dat on the halftime highlights....but as you said we'll take it still :beermug:And he set up de 1st one too wid ah flick on headerWell... he flick it on to de defender head, who then flick it on. But we'll take it.
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 26, 2012, 03:22:33 PM
Post by: soccerman on December 26, 2012, 03:23:59 PM
Post by: de_redman on December 26, 2012, 03:24:31 PM
Post by: Fyzoman on December 26, 2012, 03:29:12 PM
Post by: davyjenny1 on December 26, 2012, 03:57:36 PM
KJ is really a handful when he ready yes:) I can't wait for GC!!
Who on the present national squad could provide service to KJ for him to shine in the GC if selected ?
Post by: Fyzoman on December 26, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
KJ is really a handful when he ready yes:) I can't wait for GC!!
Who on the present national squad could provide service to KJ for him to shine in the GC if selected ?
I wondered the same thing and don't worry we will have people to provide service, trust me on this:)
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 26, 2012, 04:18:25 PM
Doh get tie up by today's game. Stoke doh normally look so good.KJ is really a handful when he ready yes:) I can't wait for GC!!
Who on the present national squad could provide service to KJ for him to shine in the GC if selected ?
Post by: royal on December 26, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-walters-jones-inspire-stoke-beat-liverpool-213709857.html
Post by: frico on December 26, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on December 26, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
To appreciate the true quality of this goal yuh hadda ketch the view from behind the net!
Post by: Fyzoman on December 26, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 26, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
Post by: StoreBayLimer on December 27, 2012, 12:07:23 AM
Post by: maxg on December 27, 2012, 08:24:02 AM
Post by: Rastaman on December 27, 2012, 08:37:51 AM
1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.I think that he knows that he is not going to get the ball in certain situations. Might be a tactic that they use to cover his laziness/ inefficiencies. But I also believe that when the ball goes through him things happen. He is probably their best 'playmaker' and i believe that this was also the case at Sunderland. He needs to find a team where he will be used as a player and not just a targetman. With the ball at his feet he is just as effective as a lot of the jokers that play in England.
If not then get two proper wingers and let him feed off of crosses.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 27, 2012, 09:14:53 AM
1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.Crouch certainly doh do no kinda running. Walters is unique to the team in that regard. Is like he doh ever get tired. That's why he never ever gets dropped. KJ do a whole lot more running and pressuring yesterday than usual. Few people will ever be Jon Walters, though.
Post by: maxg on December 27, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
Nah, disagree, Crouch does run down ball and thief some...not to the extent of Walters but he does.I sign on late, after 2nd half, so maybe I missed KJ runs, but their is a thing where even on offence, Crouch et al, seems to always manage to be in a position fighting up for a ball..this was one of Stern John strengths...the times I saw, Stoke players was attacking with he ball and KJ, was not getting into position, he was waiting...when ball do come, he was only then trying to get, usually to late...He cannot/must not depend on only the set play...yet if I know he carrying a knock, i would give instructions to pick the runs..just wondering if that is the case. it just what I saw for the half up to the eventual sub. He goes all the way back in defense for the corners but hardly commits until the ball comes to him..eg. a ball fell nearby, a Lpool man hurried off a shot, KJ was closest, but didn't attempt to block, luckily the man skyed it over bars...Obviously I may have saw the bottom end...it just suggestions on how he can improve..if someone wants to perform for 90 minutes, they have to put out for 110..yuh know what I mean..again, it's not a knock down, but just a suggestion for improvement.1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.Crouch certainly doh do no kinda running. Walters is unique to the team in that regard. Is like he doh ever get tired. That's why he never ever gets dropped. KJ do a whole lot more running and pressuring yesterday than usual. Few people will ever be Jon Walters, though.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 27, 2012, 10:19:30 AM
Nah, you're generally right. I doh disagree. But yesterday specifically KJ real work. You tune in when he start to get tired.Nah, disagree, Crouch does run down ball and thief some...not to the extent of Walters but he does.I sign on late, after 2nd half, so maybe I missed KJ runs, but their is a thing where even on offence, Crouch et al, seems to always manage to be in a position fighting up for a ball..this was one of Stern John strengths...the times I saw, Stoke players was attacking with he ball and KJ, was not getting into position, he was waiting...when ball do come, he was only then trying to get, usually to late...He cannot/must not depend on only the set play...yet if I know he carrying a knock, i would give instructions to pick the runs..just wondering if that is the case. it just what I saw for the half up to the eventual sub. He goes all the way back in defense for the corners but hardly commits until the ball comes to him..eg. a ball fell nearby, a Lpool man hurried off a shot, KJ was closest, but didn't attempt to block, luckily the man skyed it over bars...Obviously I may have saw the bottom end...it just suggestions on how he can improve..if someone wants to perform for 90 minutes, they have to put out for 110..yuh know what I mean..again, it's not a knock down, but just a suggestion for improvement.1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.Crouch certainly doh do no kinda running. Walters is unique to the team in that regard. Is like he doh ever get tired. That's why he never ever gets dropped. KJ do a whole lot more running and pressuring yesterday than usual. Few people will ever be Jon Walters, though.
Up to him to keep it up.
Post by: truetrini on December 27, 2012, 11:50:47 AM
Nah, you're generally right. I doh disagree. But yesterday specifically KJ real work. You tune in when he start to get tired.Nah, disagree, Crouch does run down ball and thief some...not to the extent of Walters but he does.I sign on late, after 2nd half, so maybe I missed KJ runs, but their is a thing where even on offence, Crouch et al, seems to always manage to be in a position fighting up for a ball..this was one of Stern John strengths...the times I saw, Stoke players was attacking with he ball and KJ, was not getting into position, he was waiting...when ball do come, he was only then trying to get, usually to late...He cannot/must not depend on only the set play...yet if I know he carrying a knock, i would give instructions to pick the runs..just wondering if that is the case. it just what I saw for the half up to the eventual sub. He goes all the way back in defense for the corners but hardly commits until the ball comes to him..eg. a ball fell nearby, a Lpool man hurried off a shot, KJ was closest, but didn't attempt to block, luckily the man skyed it over bars...Obviously I may have saw the bottom end...it just suggestions on how he can improve..if someone wants to perform for 90 minutes, they have to put out for 110..yuh know what I mean..again, it's not a knock down, but just a suggestion for improvement.1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.Crouch certainly doh do no kinda running. Walters is unique to the team in that regard. Is like he doh ever get tired. That's why he never ever gets dropped. KJ do a whole lot more running and pressuring yesterday than usual. Few people will ever be Jon Walters, though.
Up to him to keep it up.
Maybe this will address all the shit about Jones and Crouch...just maybe ..ok then
http://www.eplindex.com/21176/kenwyne-jones-peter-crouch-stats-comparison.html
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Pretty self explanatory this one. Jones played just over 100 more minutes than Crouch. Just over one full game. But what does that mean in respect of their “output”.
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So, Kenwyne Jones contested possession 15 more times than Crouch. Considering the man from Trinidad and Tobago has often been bemoaned for his reluctance to get “stuck in”, this would suggest that he is more involved physically than his team-mate.
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Another interesting statistic to consider. Jones has repeatedly been labelled as “lazy” and accused of going missing for portions of seasons and not just games. Whilst there may be some truth in those claims it is certainly of note that Kenwyne made a tackle significantly more frequently than Crouch.
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Crouch towers over the majority of defenders and the same can be said about Jones but the way that each player goes about winning the ball in the air is very different. Crouch takes a static jump, which he can afford to do given his superior height, where as Jones takes a slight run up. Crouch won the battle 5% more often.
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Despite giving the ball away on ONE more occasion it is vital to consider the difference in playing time. Crouch is often praised for his ball retention, yet Jones is lambasted for being wasteful in possession, why? A similar argument can be made when you look at pass completion in the attacking zones.
Of course a striker is always judged by their goal tally. Crouch scored 10 Premier League, which was an excellent return. The season before, Jones netted 9 times in the league, also a very respectable return. Crouch was slightly more accurate with his shooting, but Jones was more clinical when presented with a clear cut chance.
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There is very little to split the two players in terms of statistics, but what does separate them is attitude. Kenwyne Jones’ apparent mood swings have caused his performance levels to fluctuate from time to time, which has left fans frustrated. On the other hand there has also been several games where Crouch has made little to no impact.
Post by: Bourbon on December 27, 2012, 03:17:49 PM
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There is very little to split the two players in terms of statistics, but what does separate them is attitude. Kenwyne Jones’ apparent mood swings have caused his performance levels to fluctuate from time to time, which has left fans frustrated. On the other hand there has also been several games where Crouch has made little to no impact.
Key point there.
Hope he builds on this though. Confidence is one of the best performance enhancing drugs.
Post by: Bakes on December 27, 2012, 03:20:01 PM
QuoteThere is very little to split the two players in terms of statistics, but what does separate them is attitude. Kenwyne Jones’ apparent mood swings have caused his performance levels to fluctuate from time to time, which has left fans frustrated. On the other hand there has also been several games where Crouch has made little to no impact.
Key point there.
Hope he builds on this though. Confidence is one of the best performance enhancing drugs.
It's a false point though... the author never states what he sees Crouch's "attitude" to be, just that he "has made little to no impact."
Anyways, can we stop talking about this shithong Kenwyne now... I still in grieving.
Post by: just cool on December 27, 2012, 04:30:04 PM
Yuh mean ah shithong like torres and carrol?? ;DQuoteThere is very little to split the two players in terms of statistics, but what does separate them is attitude. Kenwyne Jones’ apparent mood swings have caused his performance levels to fluctuate from time to time, which has left fans frustrated. On the other hand there has also been several games where Crouch has made little to no impact.
Key point there.
Hope he builds on this though. Confidence is one of the best performance enhancing drugs.
It's a false point though... the author never states what he sees Crouch's "attitude" to be, just that he "has made little to no impact."
Anyways, can we stop talking about this shithong Kenwyne now... I still in grieving.
Post by: Coach on December 27, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
It will be up to the coach or coaches to encourage supporting players to try and play more balls forward to KJ. Kj holds the ball up well under pressure and this can bring players into good attacking position.KJ is really a handful when he ready yes:) I can't wait for GC!!
Who on the present national squad could provide service to KJ for him to shine in the GC if selected ?
I wondered the same thing and don't worry we will have people to provide service, trust me on this:)
If the theory and practical ground work is done in training camp, I would hope mids / defenders should be able to make a decent pass forward to KJ. This will not take long for players to understand but the coach or coaches must have a vision to implement this attacking part of the game plan.
Post by: maxg on December 27, 2012, 05:54:58 PM
"Inevitably since the introduction of Crouch, Kenwyne Jones has seen his first team opportunities decimated, almost to the point of extinction. With that in mind I wanted to look at both players Stats from their first season in the Potteries, 2010/11 for Jones and 2011/12 for Crouch:"
It hard to compare a guy who getting run just cause of name, irregardless of how KJ was performing. Comparing 1st season is hardly fair to the present..i.e the present being KJ only getting cobo sweat every now and then, only when Crouch seem to feel to come off.
Who can say, how when Pulis bring in Crouch how it affected KJ confidence over the last year. He seem to be regaining it now with the lately regular run out doh. Hopefully he will add to this, and keep that fowl thief on lock down.
Post by: Observer on December 27, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
Post by: kounty on December 28, 2012, 07:44:21 AM
Stoke City deserve credit for Premier League achievements
One of the lazier default insults aimed at Stoke City is to ask if the game's great and good - didn't someone once even pose the question about Lionel Messi? - can "do it on a cold, wet night" in The Potteries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20847691 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20847691)
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Post by: FF on December 29, 2012, 09:12:40 AM
come on jones!
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
KJ gets the start against his old club Southampton! :challenge:Lol, big miss again. The worst of them all. Hope he recover.
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Post by: JRtheWriter on December 29, 2012, 09:16:29 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
Post by: FF on December 29, 2012, 09:17:33 AM
Post by: g on December 29, 2012, 09:21:22 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 09:21:41 AM
Link for the game?http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/160727/3/watch-stoke-city-vs-southampton-fc.html
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2012, 09:45:55 AM
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 09:58:15 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 09:59:29 AM
Stoke defending terrible, that own goal shows u how much of ah brains dat defender got...you're in the middle facing your own goal and the striker is infront of u and the ball misses the striker you either try flick the ball wide with the outside of ur feet or u allow it to run past you but u do not stick ur foot out like dat defender did unless yuh tryin tuh score ah own goal(which he did)Ah think this is what he was trying to do.
They really missing Shawcross in that defence.
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 10:16:44 AM
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 10:27:42 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 10:32:53 AM
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2012, 10:34:08 AM
That was a stupid red card.
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 10:39:38 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 10:42:42 AM
Post by: maxg on December 29, 2012, 10:45:29 AM
Real energy and commitment from KJ today! Still 3-2 for now...Glad to hear..unfortunately ah cyah see...if we could just tie it up..
add: Viola
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
Post by: Bitter on December 29, 2012, 10:56:11 AM
That was a good fight back by Stoke.
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 10:57:53 AM
Post by: Madd Ras#13 on December 29, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 11:07:17 AM
What a game! 3-3 full time. I'm officially becoming a fan of Stoke... With 10 men and all the bad calls they still dominated the 2nd half. Great game by we boy Kenwyne!I promise this isn't a biased opinion... they playing much much better football with Kenwyne in the team. More life in de attack.
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2012, 11:11:54 AM
Jones also playing with more life because he know he spot not secure.Yep. Every time he start slacking Pulis does send Crouch for a jog.
Post by: frico on December 29, 2012, 11:27:33 AM
Post by: WarriorSaint on December 29, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2012, 01:37:03 PM
Pulls is still a hater :cursing:. Look how he call out KJ after the game on skysports:Jones also playing with more life because he know he spot not secure.Yep. Every time he start slacking Pulis does send Crouch for a jog.
Pulis: "Jones' chance where he misses it early on, it is harder to miss than score and that epitomised everything we did. We were poor defensively, we gave poor goals away and we just looked off the pace. They were still tapping themselves on the back from the Liverpool performance."
Post by: kev on December 29, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Jones also playing with more life because he know he need a move and its coming upto January.
Tidied
Post by: Peong on December 29, 2012, 01:50:06 PM
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
Jones also playing with more life because he know he need a move and its coming upto January.
Tidied
That too
Post by: D.H.W on December 29, 2012, 05:24:37 PM
Post by: ckhan on December 30, 2012, 10:58:35 PM
Post by: de_redman on January 01, 2013, 08:25:49 AM
Post by: davidephraim on January 01, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Happy New year to all! Come on Jones! Do your thing against the champions!We lookin to pip Mancity tonight and btw yes, if pulis go run KJ and not be ah A$$hole, then ah could back Stoke as meh outside team.
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 01, 2013, 10:57:26 AM
(This is really just the KJ vs. Crouch thread. Let's be honest.)
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 08, 2013, 08:25:03 AM
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2013, 09:21:28 PM
Talk is Kenwyne to Swansea. Replacing Danny Graham. Still a rumor, but a very persistent one. We'll see.
Swansea don't wear red and white stripes
Post by: D.H.W on January 12, 2013, 09:04:07 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 12, 2013, 09:10:51 AM
Jones starts against chelseaClose miss. Nice attempt, but a better finisher woulda probably sink that.
Post by: Bitter on January 12, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
Jones starts against chelseaClose miss. Nice attempt, but a better finisher woulda probably sink that.
Like Torres?
Post by: Peong on January 12, 2013, 09:37:50 AM
That skinny man real strong to make KJ go sprawlin so easily. ;D
Torres wish he could finish like dat. Walters boy, yuh put yuh side under real pressure now.
Post by: D.H.W on January 12, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
Post by: Peong on January 12, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Post by: Observer on January 12, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Post by: mukumsplau on January 12, 2013, 10:37:25 AM
Post by: maxg on January 12, 2013, 12:09:21 PM
Observation is it me, or, KJ seems to wait on crosses coming into the box rather than trying to get infront his marker and attack the ball?
I find so awhile now, on commented late last year, when it seemed to be a pattern
Nah, disagree, Crouch does run down ball and thief some...not to the extent of Walters but he does.I sign on late, after 2nd half, so maybe I missed KJ runs, but their is a thing where even on offence, Crouch et al, seems to always manage to be in a position fighting up for a ball..this was one of Stern John strengths...the times I saw, Stoke players was attacking with he ball and KJ, was not getting into position, he was waiting...when ball do come, he was only then trying to get, usually to late...He cannot/must not depend on only the set play...yet if I know he carrying a knock, i would give instructions to pick the runs..just wondering if that is the case. it just what I saw for the half up to the eventual sub. He goes all the way back in defense for the corners but hardly commits until the ball comes to him..eg. a ball fell nearby, a Lpool man hurried off a shot, KJ was closest, but didn't attempt to block, luckily the man skyed it over bars...Obviously I may have saw the bottom end...it just suggestions on how he can improve..if someone wants to perform for 90 minutes, they have to put out for 110..yuh know what I mean..again, it's not a knock down, but just a suggestion for improvement.1 critcism, he probably playing to instructions, however, the lack of intensity i see- read running down man or wildness- ( a la Walters/Crouch etc..) would not make him match fit for us. When the ball gets to KJ, good things happen, but when the other team has it, he basically don't try to win it. I think if he can up that a little, he will better serve Club & Country down the road. At times looked like he was carrying a knock and protecting it, which is ok for now.Crouch certainly doh do no kinda running. Walters is unique to the team in that regard. Is like he doh ever get tired. That's why he never ever gets dropped. KJ do a whole lot more running and pressuring yesterday than usual. Few people will ever be Jon Walters, though.
Post by: Bitter on January 15, 2013, 03:14:41 PM
Jones on for crouch in the 63rd minute.
Goal!! Kenwyne Jones hits a very good header to the lower right corner from the right 6 yard (aprox. 6 yards) and scores!! Stoke City now leads 1 - 0
Post by: bingie man on January 15, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
Post by: maxg on January 15, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
Stoke vs Palace in the FA Cupdang..dem eh letting he go no-way now..anyway...Yaay KJ
Jones on for crouch in the 63rd minute.Score is 0-0
Goal!! Kenwyne Jones hits a very good header to the lower right corner from the right 6 yard (aprox. 6 yards) and scores!! Stoke City now leads 1 - 0
Post by: Bitter on January 15, 2013, 03:46:16 PM
links ?
The only links i find to today's FA cup games was a radio feed of the West Brom - QPR game
Post by: fitzinho on January 16, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
Found a vid with highlights...seems Kenwyne had a hand in all the goals
Post by: Peong on January 16, 2013, 06:20:19 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 16, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
Quote
John Percy @John__PercySwansea playing cheap.
Stoke confirm they have rejected a £3m bid from Swansea for Kenwyne Jones #scfc
Post by: D.H.W on January 16, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
Post by: Bakes on January 16, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
QuoteJohn Percy @John__PercySwansea playing cheap.
Stoke confirm they have rejected a £3m bid from Swansea for Kenwyne Jones #scfc
Swansea playing smart... when yuh negotiating yuh doh start high as a buyer. It also tells you that they not likely to pay more than the 4-4.5 that I predicted.
Post by: truetrini on January 16, 2013, 09:18:59 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 16, 2013, 09:45:29 PM
That's why ah say 'playing'.QuoteJohn Percy @John__PercySwansea playing cheap.
Stoke confirm they have rejected a £3m bid from Swansea for Kenwyne Jones #scfc
Swansea playing smart... when yuh negotiating yuh doh start high as a buyer. It also tells you that they not likely to pay more than the 4-4.5 that I predicted.
Pulis trying to get back as much of the £8m he spend as possible. They showing him they ain't bending over.
Ah watch them ask Laudrup today about KJ, and he didn't want to comment specifically but alluded to the fact that they still have 2 weeks to hammer out a hypothetical deal.
Post by: just cool on January 17, 2013, 03:45:41 AM
Post by: JRtheWriter on January 17, 2013, 09:31:18 AM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1302509&cc=5901
Post by: de_redman on January 30, 2013, 08:31:06 AM
www.skysports.com
Sky Sports sources understand that Stoke City and Queens Park Rangers are in talks over the possible transfer of Peter Crouch.
The England international has two-and-a-half years left on his current deal, having joined Stoke in 2011.
Harry Redknapp is a huge fan of the 32-year-old having previously managed him at Southampton, Portsmouth and Tottenham.
Crouch's team-mate Jamie Mackie has been linked with a potential move in the opposite direction.
Meanwhile, another striker who could be on his way out of Loftus Road is DJ Campbell as Sky Sports understands talks are ongoing with Hull City over his future.
Post by: apachie on January 31, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
Post by: fitzinho on January 31, 2013, 01:28:44 PM
Jonesie look like he's headed to villa...as in Aston villa...I know men was thinking villa capri in southReports calling that move unlikely...i feel he staying put until the summer at least
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 31, 2013, 01:33:49 PM
Yeah, ah think they done announce that he and Crouch ain't going nowhere. QPR wanted Crouch, but wouldn't bid enough.Jonesie look like he's headed to villa...as in Aston villa...I know men was thinking villa capri in southReports calling that move unlikely...i feel he staying put until the summer at least
Post by: King Deese on February 01, 2013, 02:18:09 AM
Post by: fitzinho on February 04, 2013, 01:29:34 PM
Stoke City signed Brek Shea today from MLS FC Dallas for $4 million pounds. Go figure.Tony Pulis real know how to show confidence in his players ::). Man was ready to get rid of both Jones and Crouch...smh
Post by: maxg on February 05, 2013, 11:17:40 AM
Maybe he preparing in case KJ bowl a Yorkie and overstay for Carnival :devil:Stoke City signed Brek Shea today from MLS FC Dallas for $4 million pounds. Go figure.Tony Pulis real know how to show confidence in his players ::). Man was ready to get rid of both Jones and Crouch...smh
Post by: kev on February 09, 2013, 02:46:47 AM
Stoke City signed Brek Shea today from MLS FC Dallas for $4 million pounds. Go figure.Tony Pulis real know how to show confidence in his players ::). Man was ready to get rid of both Jones and Crouch...smh
Its obvious happy to sell Kenwyne if the money was right but a difference of opinion on value I suspect. Reading between the lines there was also his wages seemed to be a stumbling block.
Arry is a wheeler dealer and all he is interested in is the short term and survival and would of seen Crouch as a means to an end, add that to the fact Crouch's other half never wanted to leave London, he has played for Arry several times and 1 last big payday and I suspect it was Crouch wanting to go not Pulis wanting to sell. The doubt where he would be at the end may of even put pay to any possible move for Kenwyne as he couldn't afford both out the door, but it won't change his preference.
This summer is the last chance to get any money for Kenwyne.
Post by: maxg on February 09, 2013, 10:09:37 AM
Post by: fitzinho on February 09, 2013, 01:25:42 PM
So Pulis could've give the fella ah weekend off, to do some prayers and sacrifices for pan. "Oh Goooorrdddd, music sweet boy", get re-acquainted with family..." Aye, Family, come nah, ah wha talk tuh yuh"...and in true TT culture, excorsise some demons " " yuh feel I cyah wine, lemme see yuh go down so , nah..jump an wave, jump & wave "... So the man could comeback cleansed , at peace, an prepared , to finish the season focused and with a few bangs, under he belt....nah, rush him back to Sidown on bench in the cold...chhheeeuuupppsss:rotfl: :rotfl: Man getting paid to siddung on the cold bench eh...remember that!! Plus is only man like Yorke and Latas I does see getting away with them thing every year so
Post by: Tallman on April 16, 2013, 12:00:37 PM
By Martin Spinks (The Sentinel)
STOKE City's poor goalscoring record has left Jon Walters, Peter Crouch and Kenwyne Jones being named among the top-10 worst strikers in the Premier League this season.
The list, which is based on minutes-per-goal, has Walters third, Crouch eighth and Jones 10th.
But at least they don't fare as badly as the surprise number one, Manchester United's England striker Danny Welbeck, who has scored just one league goal in 1,204 minutes of action this term.
Walters clocks up an average of one goal every 479 minutes, but he has started 23 of his 33 league games on the right or left of midfield.
Crouch, who has only netted once in his last 26 league and cup appearances, weighs in with a goal every 384 Premier League minutes and Jones one every 345 minutes.
Between them, Walters, Crouch and Jones have bagged 14 of Stoke's 28 league goals this season.
The Opta list, which is restricted to those playing a minimum of 1,000 minutes, has West Bromwich Albion's Romelu Lukaku best placed with 13 goals in 1,548 minutes at an average of 119 minutes-per-goal.
That eclipses the Premier League's leading scorer, Liverpool's Luiz Suarez, whose 22 on target work out to 130 minutes apiece.
Post by: Peong on April 16, 2013, 12:16:23 PM
Stoke were the lowest scoring last season and this season so far.
Post by: Tenorsaw on April 16, 2013, 01:06:21 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on April 16, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
Post by: Bakes on April 16, 2013, 02:49:05 PM
Hope these punks get relegated...the anti-football catching up with dem. Shortening pitch to stymie man style of play. Smh... :laugh:
They cyah drop fast enough lol
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 16, 2013, 04:56:26 PM
Three strikers make worst top-10 list
By Martin Spinks (The Sentinel)
STOKE City's poor goalscoring record has left Jon Walters, Peter Crouch and Kenwyne Jones being named among the top-10 worst strikers in the Premier League this season.
The list, which is based on minutes-per-goal, has Walters third, Crouch eighth and Jones 10th.
But at least they don't fare as badly as the surprise number one, Manchester United's England striker Danny Welbeck, who has scored just one league goal in 1,204 minutes of action this term.
Walters clocks up an average of one goal every 479 minutes, but he has started 23 of his 33 league games on the right or left of midfield.
Crouch, who has only netted once in his last 26 league and cup appearances, weighs in with a goal every 384 Premier League minutes and Jones one every 345 minutes.
Between them, Walters, Crouch and Jones have bagged 14 of Stoke's 28 league goals this season.
The Opta list, which is restricted to those playing a minimum of 1,000 minutes, has West Bromwich Albion's Romelu Lukaku best placed with 13 goals in 1,548 minutes at an average of 119 minutes-per-goal.
That eclipses the Premier League's leading scorer, Liverpool's Luiz Suarez, whose 22 on target work out to 130 minutes apiece.
Walters is BY FAR the worst of the three of them. I watch their game this weekend and I am yet to figure out how this man even get a contract to play in the BPL! He is pathetic!
Post by: Dinner Mints on April 16, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
Walters alright as a second striker, playing from deep running on to them flick-ons from Crouch and KJ.. But Pulis abandon him out on the wing ever since he fall out with Pennant. Them numbers misleading. Walters is basically a winger this season.Three strikers make worst top-10 list
By Martin Spinks (The Sentinel)
STOKE City's poor goalscoring record has left Jon Walters, Peter Crouch and Kenwyne Jones being named among the top-10 worst strikers in the Premier League this season.
The list, which is based on minutes-per-goal, has Walters third, Crouch eighth and Jones 10th.
But at least they don't fare as badly as the surprise number one, Manchester United's England striker Danny Welbeck, who has scored just one league goal in 1,204 minutes of action this term.
Walters clocks up an average of one goal every 479 minutes, but he has started 23 of his 33 league games on the right or left of midfield.
Crouch, who has only netted once in his last 26 league and cup appearances, weighs in with a goal every 384 Premier League minutes and Jones one every 345 minutes.
Between them, Walters, Crouch and Jones have bagged 14 of Stoke's 28 league goals this season.
The Opta list, which is restricted to those playing a minimum of 1,000 minutes, has West Bromwich Albion's Romelu Lukaku best placed with 13 goals in 1,548 minutes at an average of 119 minutes-per-goal.
That eclipses the Premier League's leading scorer, Liverpool's Luiz Suarez, whose 22 on target work out to 130 minutes apiece.
Walters is BY FAR the worst of the three of them. I watch their game this weekend and I am yet to figure out how this man even get a contract to play in the BPL! He is pathetic!
Post by: Banter Banton on May 17, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
WHAT DE ASS
Link to news with 10 articles about it
https://www.google.com/news?ncl=do38mBskzxXGJuMaw2uABDoQ1CWNM&q=kenwyne+jones&lr=English&hl=en
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
Post by: Carib-Briton on May 17, 2013, 10:46:04 AM
Pulis is a devout Christian apparently and should know about Deuteronomy 14:8 if he is 'Devout'. As we know Rasta's tend to make reference to the Old Testament, In my many experiences, hence me bringing that up[. Hopefully Pulis explains Deuteronomy 14:8 to Mr. Whelan et al...
Post by: D.H.W on May 17, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
Post by: Carib-Briton on May 17, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
Post by: Quags on May 17, 2013, 11:36:30 AM
This will not be forgotten by the boys ,no more jokes with jones ,no jonesing.
Post by: MEP on May 17, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
besides de man is a rastaman...nah deal wid de pork
Post by: sammy on May 17, 2013, 12:28:05 PM
kinda like cutting off a fella horse's head and resting it in his bed when he sleeping.
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 17, 2013, 12:39:51 PM
Kenwyne need to move to move to a team that tries plays attacking football. I know I might get cuss for this but this maybe a blessing in disguise. P.S. His wifey is hot. I might get cuss for that too but anyhoo
Pulis is a devout Christian apparently and should know about Deuteronomy 14:8 if he is 'Devout'. As we know Rasta's tend to make reference to the Old Testament, In my many experiences, hence me bringing that up[. Hopefully Pulis explains Deuteronomy 14:8 to Mr. Whelan et al...
Kenwyn ain't no Rastafarian...that is hairstyle. Either way, his reaction was probably a bit over-the-top. Definitely will get fined for that: two wrongs don't make a right.
Post by: Toppa on May 17, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
Post by: leon on May 17, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
Post by: Zeppo on May 17, 2013, 05:16:53 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22575668
Post by: Raul on May 17, 2013, 05:18:08 PM
Post by: Toppa on May 17, 2013, 05:24:35 PM
Post by: Peong on May 17, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
Earlier this week, retiring Stoke striker Michael Owen had his car covered in eggs and flour by team-mates, with 28-year-old Jones tweeting a picture with the explanation that it was a "leaving present" for the former England star.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22575668
Yes and Michael Owen tweeted a pic with the quote, "It's a long week lads. Revenge is in the air! Chief suspects: Whitehead and Whelan. Huth is a possible too."
https://twitter.com/themichaelowen/status/333514383101665281/photo/1
Post by: Cocorite on May 17, 2013, 08:04:57 PM
Post by: maxg on May 17, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 17, 2013, 10:09:41 PM
Post by: just cool on May 18, 2013, 12:07:34 AM
So much for being a professional and role model... With all the millions KJ making, a lil pig blood make him that mad, that he have to retaliate by going out and breaking the glass. Two wrongs don't make a right!!:timeout: You maybe cool wid dat, but there's something else that maybe ah little less or a little more severe that would make you blow yuh top.
it have man who would play this down as ah little locker room prank, and yes i think KJ should have just let it go. but then again i am not kenwyne jones and we don't have the same hang ups, which this is all it really comes down to. :yellowcard:
this is for all the self righteous "cool level headed" members out there who looked down on his behavior.
what if the tables were turned and lets say ah man pour wet runny feces all over your expensive stuff, maybe things with sentimental value like ah lucky charm or a present from a love one?
lets go even further, what if they had poured semen on your stuff, or took condoms filled with semen and hung up in your locker? i know man like sam, warmonger or omarldhino would flip out!
what if a person has a phobia for certain animals like rats or even a snake which most ppl fear, could definitely cause someone to over react, tell me would you still think it was funny if ah man put ah ded mapappee in yuh belongings??
maybe the most abhorring thing in KJ's world is the pig, and who ever pranked him may have known that. TBH i can't blame the guy especially if he might never wear/use those things ever again which maybe loaded with sentimental value.
it's easy to criticize when it's not us, but ah locker filled with hogs blood running all over a man's personal affects, especially a religious man who's disdain for a certain animal could easily drive ah fella into a violent swing, is not amusing! sorry. :pissedoff:
the bright side, he didn't act out physically violent towards whealan, thank GOD!!! bc we would not have heard the end of it, so he did show some restraint after all and that should be applauded :applause: :applause:.
i'll defo have to give kenwyne a pass on this one. the prank was stink and way over the top.
Post by: maxg on May 18, 2013, 06:53:13 AM
Well after the game he congratulated him...Well done lad." Remember there was a strong stench of faeces ?"
"We'll what I did, was pick up a handful of dog-shit, and rubbed it all thru the BOY Afro.ha ha ha ha ha"
"Remember u lads kept asking, how come your dressing room smelled so bad har har har har"
Well, at age 48 my lack of professionalism took another hit,right there at that table. 10 years later they still saying don't play/tell maxg no jokes..the lad has no sense of humour...all right by me, but I was just playing too..didn't mean to knock out a tooth...didn't make no fist.
He lucky meh buddidn't know story then, cause it might a have some serious police investigations back then that won't have been funny.
Ah guess a blow meh chances...ah tell Allyuh bout the time the fella kick meh down and make a joke an say "get up N...", ah was young then.
Just saying, it's very easy to act unprofessional in an unprofessional environment. Kudos to those who are strong enough to change that environment through professional behaviour.
Post by: Fyzoman on May 18, 2013, 06:53:57 AM
Ah love dis, The Millionaire Games!!!
Dem millionaires just having a lil drama for we benefit.
KJ warned dem he not in dat, dey still prank him...he bust ah man windshield 'old nigga' style, he pay ah fine (chump-change) and keep it movin.
Post by: trini_stallion on May 18, 2013, 10:10:16 AM
Post by: fitzinho on May 18, 2013, 01:06:16 PM
Post by: triniairman on May 18, 2013, 01:42:45 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 18, 2013, 02:10:56 PM
@kj9nes: Secondly i've apologised to glen whelan for the destruction of his property, for all the ppl that think I did micheal Owen's car I didn't
@kj9nes: I just posted the pics of it , I was never involved in any of the pranks in the dressing room
@kj9nes: So for all the people that think that the pigs head wrapped in my clothes was banter great so is the broken window
@kj9nes: As far as tension in the squad there's nun myself and whelan had our thrash out and he said it wasnt him so I apologised n im paying for it
@kj9nes: As for the person who did it no one has come fwd n apologised to me so I guess the joke was gd then
@kj9nes: But as I said if you have the belly to take banter to that level be willing to accept the reaction. Thats final no more comments
Post by: triniairman on May 18, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
@kj9nes: As far as tension in the squad there's nun myself and whelan had our thrash out and he said it wasnt him so I apologised n im paying for it
Oops, wrong person, sorry Whelan for my over reaction.
Post by: frico on May 18, 2013, 02:42:01 PM
Post by: just cool on May 18, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
Maybe is because its the end of a long season and a little prank was being played among the team. Some men just to big for it and KJ was a victim to it. He showed that he can't take a joke and did what he did.. So in the end... Two things came out of this 1. They know is not to make no joke with KJ and 2. The victim still will pay a fine for his reaction. So KJ might feel good that he got some sense of revenge, but in the team eyes, he is one not to mess personally with anymore. Man talking bout the extremeness of the joke, and comparing dog shit in man head and feces on sentimental things to a pigs head in KJ locker. First of all you have to be ah punk to let men rub that shit in your hair and the feces thing, well in my opinion that's extreme. To each his own, some could take a joke others can't and very sensitive. Maybe that's KJ case. We will never know till the investigation is over.So let me get this straight, the pig's blood over a man's personal affects is light hearted humor and should not be taken that seriously/ harsh, especially when it's a man who find's the pig in itself to be appalling, but feces on anything is over the top and extreme??
that's western logic for yuh, "it only serious when i say so". what is joke for the child is death for the frog, but fack the frog anyway lets laugh it up.
little known facts, in africa if yuh sweep ah man's foot wid ah broom you could lose some teeth....if yuh lucky.
in iraq if yuh hit ah man with your shoes yuh could lose yuh life, in india if yuh kill ah rat or worst yet tip ah cow yuh could wind up in jail for ah while and the list goes on....... yuh get my drift. different strokes
Post by: asylumseeker on May 18, 2013, 02:51:06 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 18, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Post by: just cool on May 18, 2013, 02:54:50 PM
@kj9nes: Secondly i've apologised to glen whelan for the destruction of his property, for all the ppl that think I did micheal Owen's car I didn'tIt's clear you have ah beef with jones, so i wish you luck with that since the odds of you ever meeting jones or conversing with him is slim to none.
@kj9nes: As far as tension in the squad there's nun myself and whelan had our thrash out and he said it wasnt him so I apologised n im paying for it
Oops, wrong person, sorry Whelan for my over reaction.
PS: if this was criss birchall who broke the windshield (ah guess not, bc only "ni****s" react with violence to playful pranks and banter. these monkeys have no sense of humor) would we even be having this discussion?
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 04:43:27 PM
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 04:50:51 PM
Post by: de_redman on May 18, 2013, 05:04:54 PM
Jones could geh vex if he wants but tuh buss the man windshield because taught it was him was stupid and hotheaded! There were better ways for him tuh handle that situation. And he woman should stay out of it, she not on the team or in the locker room. Hush yuh arse! Welan shoulda press charges and make him pay for dotishnessdecision/reaction!Whelan is not totally innocent. He is the main prankster. Apparently the real story is that the pig's head was put in Etherington's locker by Whelan. Etherington tried to get even by putting it in Whelan's locker but accidentally put it in KJ's locker instead. The rest is history...
Post by: maxg on May 18, 2013, 05:11:10 PM
Add: KJ should even buy whelan an a whole new car..but bet a mistake won't happen round he again....unless, it's NOT a mistake
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 05:17:54 PM
Jones could geh vex if he wants but tuh buss the man windshield because taught it was him was stupid and hotheaded! There were better ways for him tuh handle that situation. And he woman should stay out of it, she not on the team or in the locker room. Hush yuh arse! Welan shoulda press charges and make him pay for dotishnessdecision/reaction!Whelan is not totally innocent. He is the main prankster. Apparently the real story is that the pig's head was put in Etherington's locker by Whelan. Etherington tried to get even by putting it in Whelan's locker but accidentally put it in KJ's locker instead. The rest is history...
Don't athletes in pretty much all major sports playing for top-tiered teams in world renowned leagues like the BPL have their names tagged over their lockers? I eh buying that "accidentally put it in KJ's locker" part....but at the same time, I eh agree with KJ's reaction....He have to be around enough to know what going on and have to expect that he is fair game as is everybody else. I curious to know, also, if the whole issue is about the pig's blood getting on his clothes, just how much blood actually did get on his clothes. Unless they slaughter a fresh pig on the grounds and take the blood-dripping head directly to the locker room, I am willing to bet is a butcher shop dey geh dah pig head from and that be the case, hummuch blood dem ting does really have in it? Steuwps! And, yeah, Giggsy, KJ woman needed to keep quiet and handle she man proper when he come home from a hard day at the training grounds.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
Post by: D.H.W on May 18, 2013, 05:32:53 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 05:37:01 PM
Trini airman I think yuh get my point about unprofessional reaction that can occur in an unprofessional setting. And one don't have to be a punk foranybody to do anything to anybody....regardless of the consequences and fall out that occur after the fact...I personally find this hazing/prank thing to foolish for big men..yet some ppl, not singling out anybody, think it's worth a good laff..for me when yuh become a man, humour & entertainment should take a different form. Obviously millions doh make the men, even if the men make millions..each his own.. I hope K j actions serve to help the pertinent authorities contain that level of inmaturity jmo
Add: KJ should even buy whelan an a whole new car..but bet a mistake won't happen round he again....unless, it's NOT a mistake
What form yuh think the humour and entertainment should take? Pranks and hazing is something does go on anywhere and everywhere. Scouts, cadets, sports teams, fraternities, sororities. the military, every where....I know some men who does work in construction does get all kindsa pranks played on them..The best way to deal with it, even if yuh doh wants no part of it is to jes laugh it orff and keep it moving. More often than not, if something go overboard where your property is destroyed, the men responsible will jes replace your item and buy uh a drink when allyuh limin' in de bar afterward. KJ's reaction, to me, is more suited to locker room bullying, which I highly doubt was the case.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 18, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
Post by: just cool on May 18, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
i willing to bet that allyuh would have done worst than KJ! so why is a pigs innerds any different?? its all appalling!! i knoiw if i went back to my locker and saw a ded animal on my personal affacts i would go off on who ever did it, i may not beak a windshield, but i would overreact!!
i've noticed that ppl who are quick to judge others are very sheltered and never experienced a lot in life, so they compare every one else by their standards.
the man break the fackin windshield, he did the big man thing and apologized. he's paying for it, move on ppl and get off the bredder dick nah man!!
Post by: maxg on May 18, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
form Wiki
Hazing is the practice of rituals and other activities involving harassment, abuse or humiliation used as a way of initiating a person into a group. Hazing is seen in many different types of social groups, including gangs, sports teams, schools, military units, and fraternities and sororities. In the United States and Canada, hazing is often associated with Greek-letter organizations (college fraternities and sororities). Hazing is often prohibited by law and may comprise either Physical abuse (possibly violent) or psychological abuse. It may also include nudity or sexually-oriented offenses.
Post by: Sam on May 18, 2013, 06:38:00 PM
Both of them should get fine, hopefully they find he pranker.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
I willing to bet giggsy, mango chow and triniairman that if allyuh was part of a pro team, and you went to take a hot shower after a tough training session and found when you returned to you locker that all you had to wear was soiled with human excrement ( breake, jizz, semen or kaka) all over your things,
i willing to bet that allyuh would have done worst than KJ! so why is a pigs innerds any different?? its all appalling!! i knoiw if i went back to my locker and saw a ded animal on my personal affacts i would go off on who ever did it, i may not beak a windshield, but i would overreact!!
i've noticed that ppl who are quick to judge others are very sheltered and never experienced a lot in life, so they compare every one else by their standards.
the man break the fackin windshield, he did the big man thing and apologized. he's paying for it, move on ppl and get off the bredder dick nah man!!
Dred, you are the one overreacting and taking this thing personal and going off on all type off tangents. PTSD? Jones on a team, at United man dos cut people clothes up. Jones may not have thought it was funny but he acted like someone who is an outcast on the side and doh know how tuh handle he self in a locker room. From the time he say "I tell dem that I not into any pranking ting" he put ah bullseye on his back. So because he say he not "playin" dey suppose tuh leave him alone? If he wasn't in it he shoulda never be posting pics of Owen's car covered in stuff. He wanna geh kicks when it happening tuh other men but doh touch he stuff!
Post by: Bakes on May 18, 2013, 06:44:48 PM
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 06:49:43 PM
I willing to bet giggsy, mango chow and triniairman that if allyuh was part of a pro team, and you went to take a hot shower after a tough training session and found when you returned to you locker that all you had to wear was soiled with human excrement ( breake, jizz, semen or kaka) all over your things,
i willing to bet that allyuh would have done worst than KJ! so why is a pigs innerds any different?? its all appalling!! i knoiw if i went back to my locker and saw a ded animal on my personal affacts i would go off on who ever did it, i may not beak a windshield, but i would overreact!!
i've noticed that ppl who are quick to judge others are very sheltered and never experienced a lot in life, so they compare every one else by their standards.
the man break the fackin windshield, he did the big man thing and apologized. he's paying for it, move on ppl and get off the bredder dick nah man!!
Look at where de f**k YOU goin', talkin' 'bout dog shit and semen, yuh eh see something terribly wrong with you?...and trying to compare dem to a pig's head.....Boss, I was in scouts and I was in de damned military, just like you so wha de hell yuh could tell me about pranks?! And I can't even get started on the line of work I do now, men does pull pranks that could make men pack up dey shit and walk off of jobs if dey not "man enough"....Maybe yuh boy KJ is de one that is too sheltered and doh know how to participate in a little "esprit de corps" from time to time. From de time man was getting eggs and flour thrown all over dey car (at the end of the damned season, no less) yuh know full well shit goin' and go down and the onus is on you to do one of three things: (1) join in de fun and ketch men slippin'. (2) pack up yuh shit right away and go home. (3) hang around, take pictures and post on twitter when other men get ketch and then act like a little sour puss ass when you get ketch....like KJ did.
Post by: Mango Chow! on May 18, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Chow...because Hazing does go on all over , doh make it right, or mean you have to be subjected to anything, if you don't want to be part of. Ppl fight & die to give we that choice. If something is wrong, and we don't want to be involved, we are free to say NO.
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Hazing is the practice of rituals and other activities involving harassment, abuse or humiliation used as a way of initiating a person into a group. Hazing is seen in many different types of social groups, including gangs, sports teams, schools, military units, and fraternities and sororities. In the United States and Canada, hazing is often associated with Greek-letter organizations (college fraternities and sororities). Hazing is often prohibited by law and may comprise either Physical abuse (possibly violent) or psychological abuse. It may also include nudity or sexually-oriented offenses.
Maxg, this wasn't a case of hazing yuh know....this was plain and simple locker room pranks. I agree that in the case of some of these frat houses and sororities, there have been many incidents of physical and mental torture and I know all too well how far overboard many of them have gone but that does not apply here at all. KJ did himself zero favours here, all he did was show them fellas that he cyah take a joke. I don't think that from here on in (if he stays with this team) that they won't get past it and move on....but it just make him look to his teammates that he is an uptight, oversensitive fella. Who knows, maybe they had already thought about him is why they may have targeted him, tryin' to loosen him up a lil' bit.
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 18, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Post by: maxg on May 18, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
Don't get meh wrong, not saying KJ is in the right...just sayin I wouldn't say he wrong either.. For me, I definitely not giving him wrong, but again, me not in that situation, for a reason. I see the nays point, but I kinda live the yeahs point too.
Post by: giggsy11 on May 18, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
In defence of KJ, we cyah assume he post that picture on kicks. It coulda be a shake head, 'look at dis foolishness' post. I does follow him on Twitter and he doh really seem to be a 'on kicks' kinda guy.
On kicks or not, he should have stayed out of it by not posting a pic. Another reason tuh target him.
Post by: royal on May 18, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11701/8720850/Premier-League-Kenwyne-Jones-denies-Stoke-tension-despite-pig-s-head-incident
Post by: dinho on May 19, 2013, 12:44:01 AM
English people have a real different sense of humor oui.. I might be generalizing, but by and large i think for any average man from the Caribbean is a dread scene to run up on a dead pig's head in yuh stuff. I'd start thinking blight and obeah ting, doh talk for if Kenwyne is a muslim or a religious fella well worse yet.
I don't criticize Kenwyne's overreaction in the slightest, sometimes the ole nigga hadda come out to let men know what time it is. All's well that ends well, i bet next year they know who not to come round with with that shit.
But again, that whole English football lads culture real different. Alot of what is normal kicks for them would be downright disgusting for us. I used to play for a Sunday league side over there but never went on tours with them for just that same reason.. When yuh hear them stories from tours before where man big joke is teabagging a drunk teammate, i say nah before they come round me with some shit and i hadda catch a case lemme rest that.
Post by: de_redman on May 19, 2013, 08:45:15 AM
Post by: maxg on May 19, 2013, 09:37:05 AM
Agree..not just English doh..Met some slight differences here in the Canada too. Ppl from a lot of different nationalties..I played with Greeks & italian clubs as well...and everybody have they own lil jokes. I was having none of it. Like you I avoided when i could. Does that make me, not one of the boys ? Well 1 st off, I could never be one of the guys- again I was young and of a different mindset, to make matters worse. If ppl feel they IN, cause they including yuh in the tata, yuh wrong, (by observation of others even brothers who participated, they wasn't in). 2ndly, we performed very well, won some titles,lost some. Coach was happy, management was happy. Team-mates still sought me out for consult ,advice, and collaboration, so we could do the game. Game done, they went with their friends, I went with my mostly Trini friends. We pranks at the time was more like, a pardna open a '50 (beer) bottle, when he not looking, yuh switch it an put ah Carib - yuh family just send bring yuh a case..seriously doh...that was good one..worse would be, man pass out, and yuh tootpaste or shoe polish he face..anyway, it was a long time ago, before ppl was trying to outdo what they see in movies, and each other, with negatives, like what we knew the OTHER ppl did. We wasn't playin that (funny Omar)
Post by: g on May 19, 2013, 09:49:35 AM
If I am the key contributor to the team's cause and I ask my team mates to respectfully leave me out of the foolishness, i probably will be listened to and left alone.
If my team mates doh rate me or I not really contributing in their eyes, they may not necessary feel inclined to respect my wishes.
Post by: just cool on May 21, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
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Manager Tony Pulis has left Stoke City by mutual consent following talks with chairman Peter Coates on Tuesday.
Pulis's future has been in doubt for some time and he has been told the club feels the time is right for him to leave after seven years in charge.
Pulis took over at Stoke in November 2002, but left at the end of the 2004-05 season.
He returned to Stoke for the 2006-07 campaign.
Division One was rebranded as the Championship for 2004-05.
The 55-year-old was appointed Potters boss for a second time in 2006, and two years later he guided the club to the top flight after a 23-year absence.
Stoke have just finished 13th in their fifth Premier League campaign.
The Potters released a brief statement saying: "Stoke City and Tony Pulis confirm that they have mutually agreed that Tony will leave the club with immediate effect."
Pulis was the subject of unrest from some fans towards the end of the season as Stoke flirted with relegation, but the Welshman stated on several occasions that Premier League survival remained the club's main objective.
Stoke made a strong start to the campaign and were just four points off the top four on 1 December. However, they only managed four league wins in 23 subsequent league matches, suffering 11 defeats.
Former England international Michael Owen, who has retired from playing after a season at Stoke, praised Pulis on Twitter, writing: "No denying he did a great job getting them to the Premier League and keeping them there."
Pulis becomes the 56th Premier or Football League manager to leave his job since the start of the 2012-13 season.
He first took over at Stoke in 2002 and stayed for three years before a season at Plymouth. He returned to the Potteries in 2006 and gained promotion to the Premier League in the second season of his second spell in charge.
Stoke never finished lower than 14th in five top-flight campaigns under Pulis and he led the club to their first FA Cup final in 2011, when they lost 1-0 to Manchester City. The defeat still offered a route into the Europa League, where Stoke were beaten in the last 32 by Spanish side Valencia.
Manager merry-go-round
When David Moyes officially leaves Everton for Manchester United, Newcastle's Alan Pardew will become the second longest-serving manager at a Premier League club - a mere two and a half years after taking charge.
During his second spell at the club, the former Bournemouth and Bristol City manager guided his side to 122 wins in 333 games.
Ahead of Stoke's 1-1 draw at Southampton on the final day of the season, Pulis expressed his desire to remain at the club next season.
Stoke's direct and physical style of football often drew criticism from other supporters and managers, and the club appear to be set to embark on a new direction, with director of football John Rudge also leaving this summer.
Post by: trini_stallion on May 22, 2013, 04:10:29 AM
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Post by: maxg on May 23, 2013, 07:48:27 AM
I feel after the whole pig head incident Jones have no future at Stoke as he will probably be seen as a negitive influence in the dressing room. I hope I am wrong though.now that's just Pur pig-headed...just joking ..I have never been in such a high level setting mehself..but I more think, he may probably be more respected for manning up (not to be confused with any politician)..and his future will depend purely on the new coach, and who transfer players the club could get, and at what price...in addition, if the club wants to go a different football direction/style, then KJ has to get more explosive with ball at his feet.i.e change his current style..Can't just setup anymore, has to impress with skills, at least look dangerous etc etc. Didn't cost the club no unnecessary money, so I feel dem dun move on..like most ppl have
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 23, 2013, 10:36:45 AM
KJ was putting down beats and ting in Stoke pre-season. I say to mihself we go see him plenty dis season. Nope.I feel after the whole pig head incident Jones have no future at Stoke as he will probably be seen as a negitive influence in the dressing room. I hope I am wrong though.now that's just Pur pig-headed...just joking ..I have never been in such a high level setting mehself..but I more think, he may probably be more respected for manning up (not to be confused with any politician)..and his future will depend purely on the new coach, and who transfer players the club could get, and at what price...in addition, if the club wants to go a different football direction/style, then KJ has to get more explosive with ball at his feet.i.e change his current style..Can't just setup anymore, has to impress with skills, at least look dangerous etc etc. Didn't cost the club no unnecessary money, so I feel dem dun move on..like most ppl have
Post by: Mose on May 23, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
I believe that as maxg said, that will depend on the new coach. My fear is that when the new coach comes in all they will see is a prototypical/stereotypical setup and wait English center forward. I would love to see a return to the KJ who initially impressed at Sunderland.KJ was putting down beats and ting in Stoke pre-season. I say to mihself we go see him plenty dis season. Nope.I feel after the whole pig head incident Jones have no future at Stoke as he will probably be seen as a negitive influence in the dressing room. I hope I am wrong though.now that's just Pur pig-headed...just joking ..I have never been in such a high level setting mehself..but I more think, he may probably be more respected for manning up (not to be confused with any politician)..and his future will depend purely on the new coach, and who transfer players the club could get, and at what price...in addition, if the club wants to go a different football direction/style, then KJ has to get more explosive with ball at his feet.i.e change his current style..Can't just setup anymore, has to impress with skills, at least look dangerous etc etc. Didn't cost the club no unnecessary money, so I feel dem dun move on..like most ppl have
Post by: de_redman on May 29, 2013, 05:52:35 AM
Post by: Tenorsaw on May 29, 2013, 07:46:44 AM
Mark Hughes about to sign at Stoke... The Stoke fans are not happy! :cursing:
I would too, after he blotched the QPR job. Spent a lot of money on pretty pedestrian talent.
Post by: Bitter on May 29, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
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Post by: grimm01 on May 29, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
I woulda bet money Mark Hughes would never manage in the prem again unless he bring a side up via promotion. All that fella know how to do is spend plenty money on names. He has never won more than 50% of his games and his last 3 teams have been fragmented (Man City), listless (Fulham) and abject (QPR)
How de hell does Mark Hughes continue to get work? He must have de hardest working agent in the game. I hope he does give the man more than the standard 15%.
Post by: de_redman on August 31, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
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Post by: Dinner Mints on August 31, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Post by: de_redman on August 31, 2013, 10:14:28 AM
Post by: futbolfan on August 31, 2013, 10:14:58 AM
KJ has been playing a really good game. Looking confident, lost the ball once or twice but showing real hustle to win it back. Great freekick by Pennant
I am not sure if Hart had a positive motivational talk with KJ, but since the Gold Cup he has been playing well.
Post by: ckhan on August 31, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 31, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
The 'donkey' that is Walters works his sock off and will be first on the team sheets because of effort and work rate.Yep. Stoke fans stay complaining bout Walters too, but dat fella does put in work.
Post by: de_redman on September 02, 2013, 05:43:54 AM
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Stoke have completed the signing of forward Marko Arnautovic on a four-year contract from German outfit Werder Bremen.
The 24-year-old becomes the fourth new arrival under boss Mark Hughes following the signings of Erik Pieters, Marc Muniesa and Oussama Assaidi.
The Austrian international, who had a brief spell at Inter Milan, was reported to be worth around £2m.
A statement from the Potters read: "Stoke City are delighted to sign Austria international winger Marko Arnautovic from German side Werder Bremen.
"He joins on a four-year deal for an undisclosed fee."
Post by: maxg on September 02, 2013, 11:54:01 AM
Post by: maxg on December 01, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
Seems like board members, I refer particularly to the KJ 1st touch critics didn't see this one. FYI, his control and turns were very good, one was particularly amazing, of course, y'all miss it, cause not ah word
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 01, 2013, 07:02:02 PM
Everton set siege to Stoke goal yesterday. This did not change until 3-0 down, an the introduction of 2 Concacaf players. Shea & Jones. Although the result was already decided, the commentators remarked on the slight reduction in bleeding that occurred.Had a nice through ball to Crouch as well. His problem is consistency. Some games his touch is nice and some games is like passing to a wall.
Seems like board members, I refer particularly to the KJ 1st touch critics didn't see this one. FYI, his control and turns were very good, one was particularly amazing, of course, y'all miss it, cause not ah word
Post by: JRtheWriter on December 05, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
Post by: de_redman on December 05, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
Midweek game this week and he didn't even get a late sub when most players have played 180 minutes in 4 days? Not looking good :(He'll get a start on the weekend. It's that busy season when they have to rotate.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 05, 2013, 11:24:21 AM
Midweek game this week and he didn't even get a late sub when most players have played 180 minutes in 4 days? Not looking good :(And Hughes saying Crouch was man of the match when everybody else saying it was Charlie Adam. So Crouch seem to have a place in his heart. KJ have to hope Crouch get another buss mouth.
Post by: ckhan on December 07, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
Post by: elan on December 07, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
Again, he was an unused sub today. Crouch is playing well so it is hard to justify taking off a man who is in form. It does not look good at the moment.
Does scoring a goal equals playing well? Cause other than the goal Crouch really ain't do anything. Can't say ah man not playing well if he's not getting a look.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 07, 2013, 01:53:30 PM
Post by: Bakes on December 07, 2013, 04:17:19 PM
Does scoring a goal equals playing well? Cause other than the goal Crouch really ain't do anything. Can't say ah man not playing well if he's not getting a look.
Can't say a man not playing well if he scoring goal/s
Post by: maxg on December 07, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Post by: Peong on December 07, 2013, 09:22:30 PM
Stoke Loud & Proud
"News just given to me, just before kickoff, is that Kenwyne Jones went to Hughes and Scholes and said he wants a new contract or they should let him go in January, Stoke offered him a 1 year contract, but Jones wanted a 3 year, so looks like he will be gone in January (Marc)"
Best comments :
Does kj want a lift to his new club
I'm annoyed thay offered him a new contract get rid
Fantastic first stoke win now this great day for us
Post by: maxg on December 07, 2013, 11:46:58 PM
Fixed
Post by: ckhan on December 08, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
Again, he was an unused sub today. Crouch is playing well so it is hard to justify taking off a man who is in form. It does not look good at the moment.
Does scoring a goal equals playing well? Cause other than the goal Crouch really ain't do anything. Can't say ah man not playing well if he's not getting a look.
Stoke don't score often...if at all. Crouch is where he needs to be to put in headers and tap ins. Yuh can't take him off if he is scoring.
As for Jones, we will see what happens come January.
Post by: de_redman on December 09, 2013, 05:35:47 AM
4 goals in 14 matches... not exactly lighting it up.Does scoring a goal equals playing well? Cause other than the goal Crouch really ain't do anything. Can't say ah man not playing well if he's not getting a look.
Can't say a man not playing well if he scoring goal/s
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
4 goals in 14 matches... not exactly lighting it up.
Allyuh men can't see the forest for the trees... how man goals does Stoke's leading scorer have for the season? How many goals does Kenwyne have?
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 09, 2013, 10:44:02 AM
Depends on if yuh counting cup games, actually. If so, they both have 4. As usual, there's very little difference between them. Crouch ahead of him because he's better technically.4 goals in 14 matches... not exactly lighting it up.
Allyuh men can't see the forest for the trees... how man goals does Stoke's leading scorer have for the season? How many goals does Kenwyne have?
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2013, 10:50:24 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 09, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
Kenwyne flamed out at Sunderland and it was Keane fault. Bruce came in, and it was "he putting that shitty Darren Bent ahead of 'we' boy"... gone to Stoke, and again... it was Pulis fault for not playing him. Now Hughes come in and still KJ can't get a run... and we blaming Hughes for not playing him. Anyone see a common denominator here?I see you making up facts as a common denominator.
He never 'flamed out' under Keane. He was their leading scorer two seasons in a row. Under Bruce, he was played alongside Bent and formed a very exciting and productive partnership that Bent named as his best partnership ever. Bruce tried to upgrade on him with Gyan which didn't work out at all. Went to Stoke, was leading scorer again and led them to a cup final and Europe. Also the leading scorer in Europe. Pulis tried to upgrade on him with Crouch which still ain't work out yet.
He's not great technically, so his sees the bench as soon as a 'better' player come in. It has yet to improve those teams. In fact, they get worse. He must have a gripe about that.
Post by: de_redman on December 09, 2013, 11:04:16 AM
Kenwyne has 4 goals in 9 matches...4 goals in 14 matches... not exactly lighting it up.
Allyuh men can't see the forest for the trees... how man goals does Stoke's leading scorer have for the season? How many goals does Kenwyne have?
Post by: de_redman on December 09, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
:thumbsup:Kenwyne flamed out at Sunderland and it was Keane fault. Bruce came in, and it was "he putting that shitty Darren Bent ahead of 'we' boy"... gone to Stoke, and again... it was Pulis fault for not playing him. Now Hughes come in and still KJ can't get a run... and we blaming Hughes for not playing him. Anyone see a common denominator here?I see you making up facts as a common denominator.
He never 'flamed out' under Keane. He was their leading scorer two seasons in a row. Under Bruce, he was played alongside Bent and formed a very exciting and productive partnership that Bent named as his best partnership ever. Bruce tried to upgrade on him with Gyan which didn't work out at all. Went to Stoke, was leading scorer again and led them to a cup final and Europe. Also the leading scorer in Europe. Pulis tried to upgrade on him with Crouch which still ain't work out yet.
He's not great technically, so his sees the bench as soon as a 'better' player come in. It has yet to improve those teams. In fact, they get worse. He must have a gripe about that.
Post by: maxg on December 09, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
:whistling: :thumbsup: everytime slice bread show up..ppl shame to say they did like hops.. to cheap for we:thumbsup:Kenwyne flamed out at Sunderland and it was Keane fault. Bruce came in, and it was "he putting that shitty Darren Bent ahead of 'we' boy"... gone to Stoke, and again... it was Pulis fault for not playing him. Now Hughes come in and still KJ can't get a run... and we blaming Hughes for not playing him. Anyone see a common denominator here?I see you making up facts as a common denominator.
He never 'flamed out' under Keane. He was their leading scorer two seasons in a row. Under Bruce, he was played alongside Bent and formed a very exciting and productive partnership that Bent named as his best partnership ever. Bruce tried to upgrade on him with Gyan which didn't work out at all. Went to Stoke, was leading scorer again and led them to a cup final and Europe. Also the leading scorer in Europe. Pulis tried to upgrade on him with Crouch which still ain't work out yet.
He's not great technically, so his sees the bench as soon as a 'better' player come in. It has yet to improve those teams. In fact, they get worse. He must have a gripe about that.
Post by: Bakes on December 09, 2013, 04:09:16 PM
I see you making up facts as a common denominator.
He never 'flamed out' under Keane. He was their leading scorer two seasons in a row. Under Bruce, he was played alongside Bent and formed a very exciting and productive partnership that Bent named as his best partnership ever. Bruce tried to upgrade on him with Gyan which didn't work out at all. Went to Stoke, was leading scorer again and led them to a cup final and Europe. Also the leading scorer in Europe. Pulis tried to upgrade on him with Crouch which still ain't work out yet.
He's not great technically, so his sees the bench as soon as a 'better' player come in. It has yet to improve those teams. In fact, they get worse. He must have a gripe about that.
Really? So I've "made up facts" about his situation under each of those situations? How did his situation at Sunderland turn out in the end? was he trying to leave the club or was the club happy to get rid of him? That started under Keane. He scored 9 goals for Sunderland in his final season with the club, yet they actually paid Stoke City money to take him off their wage bill... but he didn't flame out? What part of that did I make up?
Did I make up the part about men on here talking about how Bruce was playing Bent ahead of him and how Bent was nothing without KJ? In fact I don't even need to argue that, just scroll back thru this very thread and it right there for you to see. Allyuh men love to develop selective amnesia. Same way when ah talk about how his insubordination at Southampton yuh jump up and bawl about redtrinigirl or somebody being "close" to the situation having inside information... that was all over the papers and which actually disproved the point yuh was trying to make. Nobody hid any bids from him, the bids were made in the open and were rejected. He then decided he wasn't playing for the club anymore. So that's three coaches who grew tired of him... Redknapp, Kean and Bruce.
Which brings us to Stoke... who broke their bank (and club record) to sign him. Before you know it Pulis fall off the bandwagon and KJ get relegated to permanent bench duty. I must be making that one up too. The situation became so toxic that KJ took to slamming the former manager in the press. Now we seeing a similar pattern with Hughes. I guess is his fault too that KJ not performing up to expectations. That would be 5 successive managers now that he's fallen out of favor with... but I guess I making that one up too.
Post by: g on December 09, 2013, 07:39:44 PM
Post by: de_redman on December 29, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 29, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
What de f#ck is wrong with Mark Hughes!!! Stoke and Crouch playing sh!t and KJ can't even get a cobeaux sweat off the bench?? This is their 6th game in this busy holiday season and no rotation for Jones to get a look in?? :bs: As I've said before in another post these bloody Englishmen PUNISH our players for going overseas and playing for the national team! KJ, Hoyte, Boucaud and Carlos have all suffered or are suffering. Notice that Birchall getting 90 mins with Port Vale consistently now that he's retired from international football. Someone needs to take a hard look at this...All signs point to KJ leaving in January. So he's likely only on the bench in case of extreme emergency.
Post by: maxg on December 29, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
but will you advise him to take it ? Even West Ham ? That' not even green grass over there.What de f#ck is wrong with Mark Hughes!!! Stoke and Crouch playing sh!t and KJ can't even get a cobeaux sweat off the bench?? This is their 6th game in this busy holiday season and no rotation for Jones to get a look in?? :bs: As I've said before in another post these bloody Englishmen PUNISH our players for going overseas and playing for the national team! KJ, Hoyte, Boucaud and Carlos have all suffered or are suffering. Notice that Birchall getting 90 mins with Port Vale consistently now that he's retired from international football. Someone needs to take a hard look at this...All signs point to KJ leaving in January. So he's likely only on the bench in case of extreme emergency.
Post by: trini_stallion on December 30, 2013, 04:23:55 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 30, 2013, 08:29:45 AM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
Post by: JRtheWriter on December 30, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
I pray this is true.
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 30, 2013, 12:50:12 PM
Only if he able. Doh make sense going nowhere to be no boo boy.I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
I pray this is true.
Post by: JRtheWriter on December 30, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
Only if he able. Doh make sense going nowhere to be no boo boy.I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
I pray this is true.
He'll play anywhere more than he's playing at Stoke. They've played what feels like 8 games in 3 weeks and that boy has not seen ANY playing time.
Post by: Bakes on December 30, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
If they're willing to bring him aboard he should literally jump with both feet. I think it would be a fantastic opportunity for him, and I actually think, based on the modest improvement we saw during the GC, that he would be adaptable to that short-passing brand. I don't know that he'd succeed, but I think he'd adapt... and I could think of no better coach in England right now (other than Rodgers or Martinez) that I'd rather see him play for than Laudrup.
Post by: g on December 31, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
If they're willing to bring him aboard he should literally jump with both feet. I think it would be a fantastic opportunity for him, and I actually think, based on the modest improvement we saw during the GC, that he would be adaptable to that short-passing brand. I don't know that he'd succeed, but I think he'd adapt... and I could think of no better coach in England right now (other than Rodgers or Martinez) that I'd rather see him play for than Laudrup.
Oddly enough i kinda like Wilfred Bony's game. Does a lot with a little.
Post by: Bakes on December 31, 2013, 05:31:31 PM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
If they're willing to bring him aboard he should literally jump with both feet. I think it would be a fantastic opportunity for him, and I actually think, based on the modest improvement we saw during the GC, that he would be adaptable to that short-passing brand. I don't know that he'd succeed, but I think he'd adapt... and I could think of no better coach in England right now (other than Rodgers or Martinez) that I'd rather see him play for than Laudrup.
Oddly enough i kinda like Wilfred Bony's game. Does a lot with a little.
I like his game as well, I think he could be a terror just based on the little I've seen. He hasn't scored in 6 weeks though so I think that's a concern.
Post by: Cocorite on December 31, 2013, 06:37:31 PM
I read an article just now saying that Swansea hv him back on their radar!Michu ain't on fire no more (and out til February), Bony ain't adapt to the league yet (if ever), and their other two strikers anonymous.
I eh know if he able with that brand, but he'd give them more up top than they currently have.
If they're willing to bring him aboard he should literally jump with both feet. I think it would be a fantastic opportunity for him, and I actually think, based on the modest improvement we saw during the GC, that he would be adaptable to that short-passing brand. I don't know that he'd succeed, but I think he'd adapt... and I could think of no better coach in England right now (other than Rodgers or Martinez) that I'd rather see him play for than Laudrup.
Well said Bakes. Agreed
Post by: maxg on January 01, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Walters-Prem 18 0 1 2 22 8 25 32 6 0
Crouch-Prem 14 3 3 4 24 11 15 16 3 0
Arnautovic -Prem12 1 1 1 32 6 11 8 1 0
Time to try a different combo..like
Jones- Prem. 4 3 0 0 9 3 5 5 0 0
Pennant-Prem 0 7 1 0 1 1 2 5 0 0
Post by: ckhan on January 01, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Post by: Bakes on January 01, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
Looks like Jones will be leaving soon. Not a single game during the busy period. Pennant looked like he played a striker role when he came on today, based on the glimpse I saw. Stoke looked like they dropped 2 points today.
Pennant cost them two points with a forward's challenge in the box in the dregs.
Post by: JRtheWriter on January 02, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
The way he was playing, I wouldn't be surprised if he had pocketed a couple of dollars from a shady character in that game.Looks like Jones will be leaving soon. Not a single game during the busy period. Pennant looked like he played a striker role when he came on today, based on the glimpse I saw. Stoke looked like they dropped 2 points today.
Pennant cost them two points with a forward's challenge in the box in the dregs.
Post by: royal on January 04, 2014, 08:18:21 AM
Post by: JRtheWriter on January 04, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
well well KJ getting ah start today in de FA :applause:Bout time!
I dont think its on TV but does anyone have a radio link or something?
Post by: JRtheWriter on January 04, 2014, 09:18:25 AM
Post by: royal on January 04, 2014, 09:19:16 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 04, 2014, 09:23:46 AM
I have a radio link, but it's only available in the UK. If you have ways of getting around that like I do then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25578582well well KJ getting ah start today in de FA :applause:Bout time!
I dont think its on TV but does anyone have a radio link or something?
Post by: trini_stallion on January 04, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
Post by: royal on January 04, 2014, 10:52:25 AM
Scores??
FT Stoke 2 vs Leicester 1
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 04, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
Post by: trini_stallion on January 04, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 04, 2014, 08:12:51 PM
Post by: Peong on January 04, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
Post by: elan on January 04, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Excellent header, nice goal. I wish he did that every game.
He does it every game. This is the only game he's played.
Post by: trini_stallion on January 05, 2014, 08:33:48 AM
Post by: g on January 05, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
Post by: soccerman on January 05, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Man put he hand up and start tuh sing allejuah:rotfl:
Post by: FireBrand on January 06, 2014, 09:27:19 AM
Skysports.com
Stoke City manager Mark Hughes has no intention of allowing Kenwyne Jones or Jermaine Pennant to leave in January.
Both men have found themselves on the fringes of the first team fold at the Britannia Stadium this season.
Their situation has not improved since Hughes succeeded Tony Pulis over the summer and speculation has suggested that they could soon be on their way to pastures new.
Hughes, though, believes that both have a role to play with the Potters - with Premier League competition demanding strength in depth.
He said in The Sentinel on Jones, who was among the goals in Saturday's 2-1 FA Cup third round victory over Leicester City: "Kenwyne has had to be patient and I haven't been able to give him too many opportunities.
"He lost his place to Peter (Crouch) and has had to bide his time, but when he plays like that he will always be a threat to teams."
Pressed on whether he may be allowed to move on, Hughes added: "That's not the intention. We've had problems scoring goals and so we've got to keep players who can get you a goal, and he showed he's an option for us."
On Pennant, who failed to make the match day squad against the Foxes, Hughes said: "He's here until the end of the season, at least."
Meanwhile, Hughes has also confirmed that he is to re-explore the option of bringing USA international Juan Agudelo on board, with it possible that a second work permit application could be lodged for the New England Revolution striker in March.
The Welshman said: "We are just keeping in touch and inviting him over when we can.
"He will have a few days with us again like he did before Christmas. We want to see if there's any potential to do anything with him."
Post by: trini_stallion on January 06, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Post by: maxg on January 06, 2014, 01:35:46 PM
Post by: trini_stallion on January 06, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
Dang...at least they keeping him fit for we...that's their prerogative ..cause let's face it..even if he was moved to any top table league, in or out of the Premier..he will ride pine.. Hughes meanwhile choosing to look for more strikers...is his job on the line.
What I don't get is why they keeping him to warm beanch when they cld sell him for a few mill...and maybe he cld rise to the occassion elsewhere...tbh..I think swansea wld be a great fit for him...they do pass the ball around..but kj cld hold up play very well..and obviously a great aerial threat as well...he neestuh get out of stoke...
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 06, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Can't get rid of him if they have no replacement. Sell KJ and Crouch get injured, they in a mess. They pursuing a couple strikers hard, so they likely waiting to see if that work out before letting KJ go.Dang...at least they keeping him fit for we...that's their prerogative ..cause let's face it..even if he was moved to any top table league, in or out of the Premier..he will ride pine.. Hughes meanwhile choosing to look for more strikers...is his job on the line.
What I don't get is why they keeping him to warm beanch when they cld sell him for a few mill...and maybe he cld rise to the occassion elsewhere...tbh..I think swansea wld be a great fit for him...they do pass the ball around..but kj cld hold up play very well..and obviously a great aerial threat as well...he neestuh get out of stoke...
I still feel he on his way. Somebody on Twitter tell him please doh go and he respond 'the only constant in life is change'.
Post by: trini_stallion on January 06, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
Can't get rid of him if they have no replacement. Sell KJ and Crouch get injured, they in a mess. They pursuing a couple strikers hard, so they likely waiting to see if that work out before letting KJ go.Dang...at least they keeping him fit for we...that's their prerogative ..cause let's face it..even if he was moved to any top table league, in or out of the Premier..he will ride pine.. Hughes meanwhile choosing to look for more strikers...is his job on the line.
What I don't get is why they keeping him to warm beanch when they cld sell him for a few mill...and maybe he cld rise to the occassion elsewhere...tbh..I think swansea wld be a great fit for him...they do pass the ball around..but kj cld hold up play very well..and obviously a great aerial threat as well...he neestuh get out of stoke...
I still feel he on his way. Somebody on Twitter tell him please doh go and he respond 'the only constant in life is change'.
I hope he ride out...for his career...what's left of it atleast!
Post by: maxg on January 06, 2014, 07:47:47 PM
Dang...at least they keeping him fit for we...that's their prerogative ..cause let's face it..even if he was moved to any top table league, in or out of the Premier..he will ride pine.. Hughes meanwhile choosing to look for more strikers...is his job on the line.
What I don't get is why they keeping him to warm beanch when they cld sell him for a few mill...and maybe he cld rise to the occassion elsewhere...tbh..I think swansea wld be a great fit for him...they do pass the ball around..but kj cld hold up play very well..and obviously a great aerial threat as well...he neestuh get out of stoke...
I don't know them, but I see Swansea have 2 fellas Bony & Dyer, between them both have 10 goals. So KJ there would be an option, not the truth, besides that already taken. The good is Bony plays for Ivory Coast , and therein KJ could be a decent replacement, but how much a club will pay for a backup..especially when Hughes announce no sale...meaning whatever yuh offering, we asking double, but may give yuh a discount.
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 06, 2014, 07:54:46 PM
how much a club will pay for a backup..especially when Hughes announce no sale...meaning whatever yuh offering, we asking double, but may give yuh a discount.Doh study that. His contract done at the end of the season and then they'll make nothing. They'll be quick to sell him for a few bob, so they could make a lil something and get him off the wage bill to make room for whoever they bring in.
Post by: trini_stallion on January 07, 2014, 04:17:00 AM
how much a club will pay for a backup..especially when Hughes announce no sale...meaning whatever yuh offering, we asking double, but may give yuh a discount.Doh study that. His contract done at the end of the season and then they'll make nothing. They'll be quick to sell him for a few bob, so they could make a lil something and get him off the wage bill to make room for whoever they bring in.
Exactly...waitt I think he contract ending like this month sometime
Post by: de_redman on January 12, 2014, 07:04:52 AM
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Stoke City manager Mark Hughes has no plans to sell strikers Peter Crouch and Kenwyne Jones during the January transfer window.
Crouch has been strongly linked with a move away from the Britannia Stadium this month, with Crystal Palace and Queens Park Rangers both reportedly interested.
Jones, meanwhile, has been linked with a switch to Cardiff City after also reportedly being wanted by the south Wales club last summer.
However, Hughes is in no position to weaken his striking options and has ruled out Crouch or Jones leaving Stoke this month.
"We have good attacking players like Jon Walters and Marko Arnautovic," said Hughes. "But for out-and-out strikers we only have two, Crouch and Kenwyne Jones.
"So for us to even contemplate them going out is not the way we are thinking at the moment.
"There is no way I will weaken the group by allowing players to go."
Post by: trini_stallion on January 12, 2014, 07:23:52 AM
Post by: trini_stallion on January 12, 2014, 07:30:02 AM
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 12, 2014, 09:37:39 AM
Let de man gooo somewhere he go get some playing time...and de money you get bring someone else in..KJ will always be second fiddle to crouch. ..btw they play liverpool today..it live on nbcsports...I think it starting at 11 eastern timeNot on the bench. Might be a wrap.
Post by: Bitter on January 12, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
Post by: elan on January 12, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
Gonna go look up stats......
Post by: maxg on January 12, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
So all this talk about Crouch better than KJ, that goal today was only Crouch 4th in the EPL and his fifth for the season?
Gonna go look up stats......
GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC
Walters-Prem 18 0 1 2 22 8 25 32 6 0
Crouch-Prem 14 3 3 4 24 11 15 16 3 0
Arnautovic -Prem12 1 1 1 32 6 11 8 1 0
Time to try a different combo..like
Jones- Prem. 4 3 0 0 9 3 5 5 0 0
Pennant-Prem 0 7 1 0 1 1 2 5 0 0
Post by: maxg on January 12, 2014, 11:58:30 AM
Post by: Bitter on January 12, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Post by: maxg on January 12, 2014, 12:07:06 PM
This game is off the chain.must agree, especially was impressed with the pace, even on a wet pitch.
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2014, 12:34:13 PM
Post by: elan on January 12, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
So all this talk about Crouch better than KJ, that goal today was only Crouch 4th in the EPL and his fifth for the season?
Gonna go look up stats......GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC
Walters-Prem 18 0 1 2 22 8 25 32 6 0
Crouch-Prem 14 3 3 4 24 11 15 16 3 0
Arnautovic -Prem12 1 1 1 32 6 11 8 1 0
Time to try a different combo..like
Jones- Prem. 4 3 0 0 9 3 5 5 0 0
Pennant-Prem 0 7 1 0 1 1 2 5 0 0
So the justification to not play KJ is that he does not look interested?
Post by: de_redman on January 15, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
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Manchester City striker John Guidetti has joined Stoke on loan for the rest of the season.
The move was made possible by midfielder Stephen Ireland signing for the Potters on a permanent deal from Aston Villa.
Ireland has so far performed admirably at the Britannia Stadium, making 16 appearances under Stoke boss Mark Hughes - including nine starts - and scoring three goals.
It is the second time in their careers Ireland and Hughes have joined forces, as the 27-year-old played under the Welshman for 18 months from June 2008 to December 2009 at Manchester City.
Stoke have not revealed the length of Ireland's contract, but Stoke boss Mark Hughes said: "Stephen is a talented footballer and has shown what he's capable of since he joined us.
"We're delighted to have made his switch a permanent arrangement as it also gives us the opportunity to bring in another player on loan if necessary."
Guidetti, 21, joined City at the age of 16 but his career has been held up by injuries and illness.
He has appeared twice on the City bench this season but the club feel he would benefit from having greater opportunities elsewhere.
Hughes told the club's website: "We wanted to try and add different options to our attacking threat and John will certainly do that.
"He's someone who if you get him in the right areas will make the most of opportunities that come his way because he's a natural goal-scorer.
"There were several clubs who were interested in taking him on loan and we're delighted that he has chosen to join us."
The Potters have Liverpool's Oussama Assaidi as their other permitted loanee.
Guidetti said: "It's a dream for me to be honest, because I have always wanted to play in the Premier League, which is in my opinion, the toughest and most demanding league in the world.
"It's going to be a real challenge for me, but I have trained with the first-team players at Manchester City for a long time now, so I feel I am ready for this opportunity.
"It has been a mentally challenging time for me over the past year or so, but in times like that you are really challenged, and I feel I have come through everything pretty well.
"Now though, I am just itching to get back on the pitch and scoring goals because there is no better feeling in the world than hitting the back of the net in front of thousands of supporters."
Post by: de_redman on January 15, 2014, 12:04:04 PM
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American international striker Juan Agudelo claims he has signed for Stoke City and is now set to go out on loan.
Stoke originally signed Agudelo last summer on a pre-contract from MLS side New England Revolution ahead of a move in January - but in November he was denied a work permit.
Stoke have signed Agudelo anyway, though, confident they can win the 21-year-old a permit in March when they can reapply. They will now loan him out to a club in Europe where there are less restrictions.
The player Tweeted on Tuesday evening: "There's no other club that has supported and believed in me like @stokecity FC has. #SignedToday - 6 month loan imminent."
Agudelo's announcement came just hours after Stoke finalised the permanent capture of Stephen Ireland from Aston Villa and a loan move for Manchester City forward John Guidetti.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 15, 2014, 02:16:53 PM
Post by: elan on January 15, 2014, 03:34:27 PM
Post by: elan on January 19, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
U.S. international Juan Agudelo has announced that he is joining Eredivisie side FC Utrecht on loan.
Agudelo, 21, said he had completed his move to Stoke City last week but he is unable to play for the Premier League club as he has been unable to secure a work permit.
As ESPN FC reported on Friday, the Colombian-born forward will now head to Utrecht for the remainder of the season as Stoke aim to secure a permit that will allow him to represent the club next season.
Agudelo scored seven goals last season for the New England Revolution after a midseason move from Chivas USA.
Post by: de_redman on January 25, 2014, 07:23:17 AM
Post by: de_redman on January 26, 2014, 06:36:43 AM
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Sky sources understand Wilifried Zaha and Kenwyne Jones are at St George's Park for medicals ahead of their proposed moves to Cardiff City.
It is understood that England Under-21 winger Zaha will join Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's side on loan for the remainder of the season for a fee in the region of £1.5million.
The 21-year-old has been restricted to just four appearances for United this season, one of which came in the Community Shield win over Wigan.
A move to south Wales would allow the former Crystal Palace man some much needed regular first-team action.
With Theo Walcott ruled out of the World Cup later this year, Zaha will no doubt hope to catch the eye of England manager Roy Hodgson during his loan spell at Cardiff.
Meanwhile, Stoke striker Jones is set to join Cardiff in a swap deal that will see Nigeria international Peter Odemwingie move the other way.
Jones was fined and dropped earlier this month after sending a text message to Mark Hughes the night before Stoke's 5-3 home Premier League defeat to Liverpool on January 12 saying he was not available to play.
Speaking to Sky Sports News upon arrival at St George's Park, Jones said: "Of course (I'm excited about the move).
"It's playing football so I'm really happy to go and try and help Cardiff City stay in the Premier League."
Post by: maxg on January 26, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
Post by: elan on January 27, 2014, 09:07:46 PM
Maurice Edu is following Michael Bradley and Clint Dempsey back to Major League Soccer.
The Philadelphia Union said Monday they had acquired the 27-year-old American midfielder from Stoke of England's Premier League and have an option to purchase his rights.
A source has told ESPNFC.com's Jeff Carlisle that Edu would make in the "mid six figures," a considerable reduction from the $1.5 million that Edu's representatives were initially seeking. That hefty demand had at one point threatened to scuttle the deal, but the two sides were eventually able to agree to terms.
A member of the 2010 U.S. World Cup team who has 45 international appearances, Edu will be a designated player whose salary counts only partially against the cap.
“As a U.S. international with experience playing against some of the best competition in the world, Maurice adds a wealth of knowledge, skill and leadership to our club while still being in his prime,” Union manager John Hackworth said in a statement.
“We think he will be an excellent addition to our squad and we are very excited to have him return to MLS and represent the Philadelphia Union.”
The MLS Rookie of the Year in 2007 with Toronto, Edu transferred to Scotland's Glasgow Rangers in August 2008.
He moved to Stoke in August 2012 but made just one appearance, as an 80th-minute substitute against Liverpool that Oct. 7. He had about a dozen appearances for Turkey's Bursaspor during a loan in 2012-13.
Brek Shea, another American midfielder with little playing time at Stoke, was loaned to Barnsley of the second-tier League Championship on Jan. 1.
Dempsey left Tottenham and returned to MLS with Seattle last summer, and Toronto acquired Bradley from Roma this month.
Dempsey is currently on loan to Fulham of the Premier League.
Post by: FF on January 29, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Look Odemwingie starting up top with Crouch.
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 29, 2014, 02:38:51 PM
But what de arse is this... just to stoke the flames some more... ;DLol, he take Jon Walters' role, though. Ain't nothing too crazy in that.
Look Odemwingie starting up top with Crouch.
Post by: maxg on January 29, 2014, 03:43:56 PM
But what de arse is this... just to stoke the flames some more... ;DLol, he take Jon Walters' role, though. Ain't nothing too crazy in that.
Look Odemwingie starting up top with Crouch.
and just to try ah ting, or drive the man mad..Hughes throw on Guidetti in the 90 th minute...nothing to lose, cause done lost.. Yeah think given the Guidetti comments, he go be happy with that....ok...time to bring anudda ManU ex in..lawd, Hughes boy...ah sorry
Post by: de_redman on February 01, 2014, 10:35:51 AM
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Post by: Peong on March 27, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
Ivica Olic Hesitant To Join Stoke City For Fear Of Long-Ball Tactics Hurting His Neck
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/transfer_talk/187241/ivica-olic-hesitant-to-join-stoke-city-for-fear-of-long-ball-tactics-hurting-his-neck.html
Supposed long-term Stoke City target Ivica Olic has joked (presumably) that he is hesitant to join the club for fear of suffering a neck injury caused by their long-ball tactics.
Croatian veteran Olic, currently of Wolfsburg but out of contract at the end of the season, apparently met with Stoke boss Mark Hughes to discuss a potential move to the Britannia, but felt he needed to voice concerns over the club’s supposedly rudimentary style of play.
Speaking to Croatian paper Jutarnji List, Olic said:
“When I had a conversation with Mark Hughes I told him ‘My neck will hurt with all those long balls you play’. He said they’re not playing that way, [that they] want to play European football.
“I haven’t yet decided, although I’d like [to move to] Old Trafford and Anfield – but Wolfsburg wants me to stay and I haven’t excluded that.”
Now, Hughes has done his level best to re-cast Stoke during his short time in charge, steering his side away from the agricultural chuckball that permeated the Pulis/Delap era.
Stoke is changing.