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Celtics 88, Heat 80
BOSTON -- First impressions after the Boston Celtics defeated the Miami Heat 88-80 in the NBA season opener Tuesday night at TD Garden:
HOW THE GAME WAS WON
Ray Allen scored a team-high 20 points, connecting on 5-of-8 trifectas, including a monster corner 3-pointer (with LeBron James scrambling to cover) to essentially seal the game with 49.8 seconds to play after the Heat had cut Boston's lead to three. Paul Pierce added 19 points and nine rebounds, while Kevin Garnett produced a double-double with 10 points and 10 rebounds. LeBron scored a game-high 31 points for Miami, while Dwyane Wade chipped in 13 points and Chris Bosh finished with 8.
TURNING POINT
In a cringe-worthy first quarter (in which the teams combined to shoot 29.7 percent) and the Heat mustered a mere 9 points, the Celtics opened a 7-point cushion, but stretched it out early in the second quarter behind the second unit. Marquis Daniels connected on a trio of shots, including two layups and a little pull-up, and Boston's lead ballooned to 31-15 after a fast-break dunk by Nate Robinson.
STAT OF THE GAME
The Heat shot a mere 36.5 percent (27-of-74), including 23.5 percent (4-of-17) in that first quarter. Boston leaned on its defense when it needed it most.
UNSUNG HERO
Glen Davis scored 13 points on 6-of-7 shooting over 29 minutes with Jermaine O'Neal still in preseason form. Davis scored a couple of monster fourth-quarter hoops to keep the Heat at bay.
WHAT IT MEANS
The Celtics, the defending Eastern Conference champs, can continue to state that the road to the conference crown goes through Boston after dispatching the much-ballyhooed Heat (and doing it in convincing fashion). Now the grind of an 82-game season really begins and Boston's veteran roster gets its first taste of a back-to-back Wednesday night in Cleveland. As can be expected, there were positives (Boston's overall defense) and negatives (20 turnovers), but maybe the Celtics' ability to win a big home game -- something it failed to do much of last season -- is most encouraging.
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:rotfl:
U take in front
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Like ah say, nuttin fuh Miami, not even carnival
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I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.
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Like ah say, nuttin fuh Miami, not even carnival
MEH NEW TAG LINE. I LUV IT credits 2 Senor Samuel
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It gets betta Cleveland beat Boston 2nite
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I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.
u is meh new best friend.
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I'm a diehard Knickerbocker who detests everything about the post-Knicks Pat Riley (namely the Heat), but I'll be rooting hard for the Miami LeBrons to bring home a title and shut the haters up.
wow, we actually have something in common and agree on :D
however still love the trio of pierce, allan and kg 8)
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Up and dong start to the season so far... but understandable given that Wade sat out most of preseason, and that virtually the entire roster is new. They'll be dangerous. Another team I like is the Magic... mainly because of Howard. He seems to FINALLY have raised his offensive game. Supposedly he working with Hakeem Olajuwon now... wha'ppen he fire Patrick or what? lol
... my poor Knicks.. Carmela whey yuh?
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Lakers 5-0 so far and looking good too...I never would've expected Atlanta to be the other unbeaten team in the league but it seems like they're played the lower ranking teams. Anyway Lakers vs Heat looking like it will be worth the hype on Christmas day. Celtics not looking bad either.
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Watching my sorry-ass Knicks play the Bulls on TnT right now... not playing too bad, although Derrick Rose juss embarrass we big men with ah sick, two-handed, behind the head dunk.
Knicks keeping it respectable though... might win some games this year.
EDIT:
Knicks keeping it close...
leading by 18, 70-52 at the half. Gallinari getting healthy all over the Bulls with 21 pts at the half.
EDIT:
Game finish 120-112 Knicks
OKC and POR tied at 100 at the start of OT... good game.
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carmello would be a nice addition to the knicks, with amare, however i am not holding my breath with the knicks, for the last decade i have been disappointed. a far cry from when i was watching them in the glory days of the eighties. :-[
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
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7-0 2 commence d season
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
Dat iz y I post so we go c if is a prophetic statement or a cry from a desperate man.
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
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Lol... allyuh people chupid yes, lol
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
Dereck "cornbread" James formerly of National Flour Mills
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
Dereck "cornbread" James formerly of National Flour Mills
Nah I feel he goin wit Pompey Julien..
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It have any area in trinidad where it doh have ah man nickname 'pompey'?
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Pompey is we nex draft pick fuh asst coach after de 3-peat :devil: BTW, make dat 8 and 0 :devil:
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Pompey is we nex draft pick fuh asst coach after de 3-peat :devil: BTW, make dat 8 and 0 :devil:
COSIGNNN
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
we talking basketball not netball, lakers already have plenty bandwagnonist :D
never play ball behind the bridge, only watch a few games here and there off of prince, was too busy playing, high school, rep and university.
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Just watch de ring ceremony, sweet. Ah boy, eat all yuh heart out Capo and Dutty, ah smellin a 3-peat ;D
:rotfl:
tree-peat?
I smellin peat moss
7-0 eh? check de title ah de thread...we go see
yuh have time with she, she never even dribble a basketball let alone step on a hardwood floor unless it was in her living room, fuss she talking about 3 peat.
Wait u is a basketball expert as well so who is d new talent from behind d bridge that detiny is d NBA?
we talking basketball not netball, lakers already have plenty bandwagnonist :D
never play ball behind the bridge, only watch a few games here and there off of prince, was too busy playing, high school, rep and university.
So u sexist and dotish. U have d inside track on who is bandwaggonist. U can spot them in a crowd on betta yet on a MB y u eh sell d skill and make some money.
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Allen’s 3s carry Celtics past Heat again, 112-107
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
ShareretweetEmailPrintMIAMI (AP)—Ray Allen(notes) hit his first seven 3-point tries and finished with 35 points, Paul Pierce(notes) added 25 and the Boston Celtics led wire-to-wire in a 112-107 win over Miami on Thursday night, handing the Heat their second straight home loss.
AP - Oct 5, 5:53 pm EDT 1 of 5 Bos-Mia Gallery Rajon Rondo(notes) had 16 assists and Kevin Garnett(notes) added 16 points and 13 rebounds for Boston, which led by as many as 20 and beat the Heat for the 13th time in the last 14 regular-season meetings.
LeBron James(notes) finished with 35 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists for the Heat, while Dwyane Wade(notes) was held to eight points on 2-for-12 shooting. The Heat got within 110-107 on Udonis Haslem’s(notes) free throws with 13.3 seconds left, but Allen hit a pair of free throws to seal it.
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like i said a little while ago, the celts have the team chemistry, they gelled already as a team.
the heat have not reached that level of comfort around each other, they need this season under their belt and a playoff run, they have only a 10% chance of beating the celts in the playoffs.
the celts will be back to the finals, they are playing some of the best ball i have seen them play since the triple threat has come together.
they have a bonified centre in shaq and a few back ups to give them 15 fouls in the stretch.
the heat need to build that team chemistry, it doesn't come right away. this year will not be their year.
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uh oh...
Sources: Erik Spoelstra frustrating Heat
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5862172
The Miami Heat's players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation. With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their past five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts.
Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job.
We've heard all kinds of reasons why Miami is mediocre. Put the Heat under the microscope, and you'll be amazed with how many factors aren't to blame, writes ESPN.com's John Hollinger. Story
The pressure on Heat coach Erik Spoelstra has been simmering for a while. ESPN.com's Marc Stein has some perspective on where we've been, and where we might be headed. Blog
"Right now, in my opinion, no one is doing a good job," said Heat guard Dwyane Wade, asked Monday about Spoelstra's performance. "We're 9-and-8. We're all in this together. The players are not doing a good job. The coach is not doing a good job."
In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them.
Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, "I can't tell when you're serious."
"He's jumping on them," one source said. "If anything, he's been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn't believe it. They feel like Spoelstra's not letting them be themselves."
But Spoelstra, at the Heat's morning shootaround ahead of Monday night's game against Washington, said players and coaches don't always get along -- and that's normal.
"A coach-player relationship in this league often will be confrontational at times. And other times, it's smooth sailing," he said. "But just the dynamic of the competitive nature of everybody, expectations, results -- all these things combine, yeah, sometimes it will get testy. And that's good. Especially when people have a pure heart and mind about getting better, that just shows that the sides want to make it right."
While he talked about his team's frustration at its play not yet matching its lofty expectations, Spoelstra did not directly respond to the comments.
"If it's an unnamed source, I have no comment about that. That could come from anywhere," he said. "I think the guys in our locker room are pure about what we need to get done and to improve and that's all I'll comment on. Anything else is really just speculation."
Wade said winning will fix everything.
"When success comes we win as a whole," he said. "If we win four in a row, Coach is going to look great. If we have a good December, you're going to be talking about coach of the year. And he might not change a thing."
It is not known whether the players voiced their concerns about Spoelstra during their players-only meeting following Saturday's loss at Dallas. Nor is it apparent whether the bump between James and Spoelstra during a timeout in that game was accidental or a result of tension between the two.
Spoelstra said he "didn't even notice" the bump until it was mentioned after the game.
"Coming out of the timeout, it's a pinball at the game, I'm colliding into a lot of people. So it's probably a perfect case of overspeculation from this team," he said Monday.
"I was fine with that timeout. The fact that guys are not happy about the play, tempers rose, you could see the fire and passion in people's eyes. That's the way it should be," he added. "None of us should be happy about what was going on in the third quarter and taking it in stride."
According to the sources, the Heat players believe Spoelstra's offensive strategies have been too simplistic. They feel like he is running nothing but pick-and-rolls and telling the Heat's secondary players to find open spots on the floor for catch-and-shoot jumpers.
The sources said the players also think the constant speculation about Spoelstra's job security is getting to the third-year coach and that he has resorted to nitpicking over minor details because of it.
"He's not a motivator," one of the sources said. "Instead of coaching he's at the point where the players are starting to sense that he's fearing for his job."
While the players may have their doubts about Spoelstra, it is not clear whether they want team president Pat Riley to coach them. Several people close to the situation said Wade definitely does not want Riley to come down to the sidelines. Sources also said that while recruiting players this past summer, Riley insisted that he would not coach the team.
"Riley kept saying 'Spoelstra's a good coach and he'll grow into a great coach,'" a source said. "He said he got his coaching break [with the Los Angeles Lakers] around the same age as Spoelstra got his."
It is widely believed that Riley does not want to coach this season. However, one source said that privately Riley has at times been critical of the Heat's game plans.
While expectations around the league have started to lessen for the Heat because of their struggles, the sources said the players still have a championship-or-bust mentality for this season and that they are open to whatever changes are necessary to get there.
"Come on, if you lose, no one's going to be happy and nor should they be," Spoelstra said Monday. "Our group is still connected. So we're still trying to work and get better. That's the only thing we're focused on right now. As all the noise starts to raise outside of our circle, we have to stay connected and get through this. It will get better. "
While the players think that may mean a coaching change, one member of the Heat organization said the team is suffering from a lack of leadership from the players, not the coach.
"They don't want to step on each other's toes," the person said. "There's no leader on the team. Somebody has to speak up and be the leader on the team. They can't be afraid to step on people's toes. They need a vocal leader who's going to make everybody accountable. I don't think it's on the coach. It's on the players."
Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine. ESPN.com's Kevin Arnovitz contributed to this report from Miami. Information from The Associated Press is also included.
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see, Latas eh de only one in over he head
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see, Latas eh de only one in over he head
Lol, ent. Spoelstra need Santa tuh bring ah box ah job security fuh he Crissmuss, b/c he eh lasting tuh see de New Year.
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see, Latas eh de only one in over he head
Lol, ent. Spoelstra need Santa tuh bring ah box ah job security fuh he Crissmuss, b/c he eh lasting tuh see de New Year.
Really meh breddah? Ah realize since de game yesterday, nobody eh posting about de new azz hole we rip de Lakers. Huh, if was de other way around, all de fans from NY, etc, dey wid ah be all over dis forum. No scene, de Heat still growing, tuh me de La game just made a statement to show what dis Heat team can achieve when dey are focused defensively (de offense will den show up). We can only improve from here on, we might loose a few more games, cuz there is still 51 games left, no problem. Doh get scared people, de storm will be in later on in 2011 8) HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Save all the talk for the post-season, will see who comes out standing
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Save all the talk for the post-season, will see who comes out standing
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNN
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see, Latas eh de only one in over he head
Lol, ent. Spoelstra need Santa tuh bring ah box ah job security fuh he Crissmuss, b/c he eh lasting tuh see de New Year.
Really meh breddah? Ah realize since de game yesterday, nobody eh posting about de new azz hole we rip de Lakers. Huh, if was de other way around, all de fans from NY, etc, dey wid ah be all over dis forum. No scene, de Heat still growing, tuh me de La game just made a statement to show what dis Heat team can achieve when dey are focused defensively (de offense will den show up). We can only improve from here on, we might loose a few more games, cuz there is still 51 games left, no problem. Doh get scared people, de storm will be in later on in 2011 8) HIGHLY BLESSED.
De sun finally shining on allyuh monkey asses and allyuh liking allyuh self down in SoFla eh? Nobody ent on allyuh like dat... if you check you would see that I rooting fuh de Miami LeBrons to shut up the critics.
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see, Latas eh de only one in over he head
Lol, ent. Spoelstra need Santa tuh bring ah box ah job security fuh he Crissmuss, b/c he eh lasting tuh see de New Year.
Really meh breddah? Ah realize since de game yesterday, nobody eh posting about de new azz hole we rip de Lakers. Huh, if was de other way around, all de fans from NY, etc, dey wid ah be all over dis forum. No scene, de Heat still growing, tuh me de La game just made a statement to show what dis Heat team can achieve when dey are focused defensively (de offense will den show up). We can only improve from here on, we might loose a few more games, cuz there is still 51 games left, no problem. Doh get scared people, de storm will be in later on in 2011 8) HIGHLY BLESSED.
De sun finally shining on allyuh monkey asses and allyuh liking allyuh self down in SoFla eh? Nobody ent on allyuh like dat... if you check you would see that I rooting fuh de Miami LeBrons to shut up the critics.
Nice, cool BnS ;). NY, NY, good marnin. Ah know de crew in town tuh get some ah dis from de Heat 2night. Doh be shy, cuz seeing dat it is u and it will be your second plate, we will be serving it 2 u buffet style, all u can eat ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Nice, cool BnS ;). NY, NY, good marnin. Ah know de crew in town tuh get some ah dis from de Heat 2night. Doh be shy, cuz seeing dat it is u and it will be your second plate, we will be serving it 2 u buffet style, all u can eat ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Doh be surprised if de Heat get cool down... NY bringing some blizzard shooting tuh spoil allyuh party lol
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I think the blizzard done.
NY 98 - MIA 106
And from the lone-star state: LA 82 - Spurs 97
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I think the blizzard done.
NY 98 - MIA 106
And from the lone-star state: LA 82 - Spurs 97
Next 8). HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Nice, cool BnS ;). NY, NY, good marnin. Ah know de crew in town tuh get some ah dis from de Heat 2night. Doh be shy, cuz seeing dat it is u and it will be your second plate, we will be serving it 2 u buffet style, all u can eat ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Doh be surprised if de Heat get cool down... NY bringing some blizzard shooting tuh spoil allyuh party lol
Ah will not call dem out. But better result for NY, may be if 2 of dey biggest stars went to bed early and were not in d VIP room, popping bottetles wid females d night b 4 d game. The function was a small thing ah had on south beach. Normally meh bois does in form meh, when ever a celeb or celebs coming through tuh meh ting. Well tuh be honest, I knew dey were there, when dey got there. Is all good doh, cuz ah sure de Heat big names does do dey thing to. HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Ah will not call dem out. But better result for NY, may be if 2 of dey biggest stars went to bed early and were not in d VIP room, popping bottetles wid females d night b 4 d game. The function was a small thing ah had on south beach. Normally meh bois does in form meh, when ever a celeb or celebs coming through tuh meh ting. Well tuh be honest, I knew dey were there, when dey got there. Is all good doh, cuz ah sure de Heat big names does do dey thing to. HIGHLY BLESSED.
How yuh putting Stoudemire and Felton on blast so? Not you was bunning fire on man fuh exposing Latas bizness? :devil:
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Ah will not call dem out. But better result for NY, may be if 2 of dey biggest stars went to bed early and were not in d VIP room, popping botttles wid females d night b 4 d game. The function was a small thing ah had on south beach. Normally meh bois does in form meh, when ever a celeb or celebs coming through tuh meh ting. Well tuh be honest, I knew dey were there, when dey got there. Is all good doh, cuz ah sure de Heat big names does do dey thing to. HIGHLY BLESSED.
How yuh putting Stoudemire and Felton on blast so? Not you was bunning fire on man fuh exposing Latas bizness? :devil:
:rotfl: yuh trying tuh set meh up faddah? Ah eh fahlin fuh dat bate my yute :rotfl:.Dem bois, dey came in free tuh meh ting of course, but damn, dey moved some very expensive bottles out d bar sah, so ah cah call dem out at all. Ah cah spoil dat cash flow padnah, cuz ah know dey will be back in d near future, wid ah bigger crew tuh spend some ah dat big NBA dollars ;) HIGHLY BLESSED.
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Nice, cool BnS ;). NY, NY, good marnin. Ah know de crew in town tuh get some ah dis from de Heat 2night. Doh be shy, cuz seeing dat it is u and it will be your second plate, we will be serving it 2 u buffet style, all u can eat ;D. HIGHLY BLESSED.
Doh be surprised if de Heat get cool down... NY bringing some blizzard shooting tuh spoil allyuh party lol
Ah will not call dem out. But better result for NY, may be if 2 of dey biggest stars went to bed early and were not in d VIP room, popping bottetles wid females d night b 4 d game.
Supa dem NBA boy does have a different kinda metabolism ..I feel is all dat runnin and jumpin
Some years ago..ok plenty years ago,, me and ah bredrin end up limin ina club with ah journeyman name Alvin Robertson who was done old by NBA standards arready..whole night we battin rum, vodka and trackin gyul
We know raptors playin jordan and de bulls at NOON….so round 5am we tell alvin "laters"…he say "where you guys goin"?
We say "afterparty"…nex ting alvin have he coat on and jump in mih pardner truck. I say Okaaay?!?
..so we hit de afterparty,, more drinks..till bout 7..sun commin up..we gorne and eat some food in ah yardiechinee spot dat does specialize in bad curry…alvin never eat curry before,,man eat like ah moose..and take a jerk chicken meal to go..is about 8:30
Alvin jump in a cab say he gorne, he have shootaround in about ah hour
I went home and pass out on mih couch..get up bleary eyed watchin de game and witness alvin drop in about 18points and at least 2 steals offa jordan……I see something similar a few times over the years with them NBA and CFL fellahs
Alvin was a decent player in he prime but was kinda of ah headcase….still de way dem athletes handle de partyin and dey job does be amazing
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:rotfl: yuh trying tuh set meh up faddah? Ah eh fahlin fuh dat bate my yute :rotfl:.Dem bois, dey came in free tuh meh ting of course, but damn, dey moved some very expensive bottles out d bar sah, so ah cah call dem out at all. Ah cah spoil dat cash flow padnah, cuz ah know dey will be back in d near future, wid ah bigger crew tuh spend some ah dat big NBA dollars ;) HIGHLY BLESSED.
Ah hope when I come thru wid mih pennies and sack ah nickles allyuh eh sit mih dong by de curb.
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:rotfl: yuh trying tuh set meh up faddah? Ah eh fahlin fuh dat bate my yute :rotfl:.Dem bois, dey came in free tuh meh ting of course, but damn, dey moved some very expensive bottles out d bar sah, so ah cah call dem out at all. Ah cah spoil dat cash flow padnah, cuz ah know dey will be back in d near future, wid ah bigger crew tuh spend some ah dat big NBA dollars ;) HIGHLY BLESSED.
Ah hope when I come thru wid mih pennies and sack ah nickles allyuh eh sit mih dong by de curb.
:rotfl: Nah we good so, yuh safe ;). HIGHLY BLESSED.
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still de way dem athletes handle de partyin and dey job does be amazing
dat lifestyle eh hard to maintain once they don't stop doing it. Is the men who try to clean up their act temporarily who does cyar make. If somebody like AC Green had even go so far as to give dem men a drop to the club he woulda have trouble making that shootaround.
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still de way dem athletes handle de partyin and dey job does be amazing
dat lifestyle eh hard to maintain once they don't stop doing it. Is the men who try to clean up their act temporarily who does cyar make. If somebody like AC Green had even go so far as to give dem men a drop to the club he woulda have trouble making that shootaround.
Wasnt AC a virgin or someting so?....I woulda figure all dat ting back up in he spine go gih he energy for years
Is when he chop he jheri curl he lorse he skillz ;)